Timcast IRL - Erika Kirk Tells Candace Owens STOP, Candace Says NO w/ Tina Descovich

Episode Date: December 12, 2025

Tim, Phil, Brett, & Libby are joined by Tina Descovich to discuss Erika Kirk demanding Candace Owens stop, Republicans defecting and joining Democrats to block Indiana's redistricting, a Democrat sayi...ng white people need to feel guilty for being white, and Nick Fuentes getting court mandated anger management.   Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) Brett @Brettdasovic (X) |  @PopCultureCrisis  (YT) Libby @LibbyEmmons (X) Producer: Serge @SearchDuPre (X) Guest: Tina Descovich @TinaDescovich (X) Tina Descovich is the co-founder and CEO of Moms for Liberty, a conservative parental rights organization established in 2021.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 From Amazon, MGM studios comes Melania, a new film that takes you inside the 20 days leading up to the 2025 presidential inauguration through the eyes of the first lady herself. Step into her world as she orchestrates inauguration plans, navigates the transition, and moves her family back to the nation's capital. History's biggest stage on the biggest screen. Melania, only in theaters on January 30. Erica Kirk has finally come out and directly addressed Candace Owens, giving her one word, stop. Now, Candice Owens had said for some time now that there's only two people who could stop her, and it's her husband and Erica Kirk. And now that Erica Kirk has formally requested that she stopped, Candice Owens has, of course,
Starting point is 00:00:54 responded as everyone predicted by saying, no, she says, stop what? Stop lying? What I lie about? So Candace is doubling down, and she's going to continue her antics. heavily criticizing Ali Beth Stuckey by calling her Jewish, which is not surprising, I guess. Now, this may be just a bit more drama, but it does connect to the bigger picture, and that is the Tyler Robinson hearing today. And we learned a bit.
Starting point is 00:01:20 There's a big discussion about whether or not they're going to allow cameras in the courtroom. It looks like the answer will be yes. So this is all tied together. The question being, who killed Charlie Kirk and is this trial going to prove it? And that's going to be, I think it's going to take a long time to figure out all of these cases are taking forever. So we'll talk about that. Plus, apparently NATO is suggesting that World War III is coming. And I kind of roll my eyes.
Starting point is 00:01:45 And I know a lot of people are saying, Tim, talk about the war, talk about the Venezuela stuff. And I'm like, guys, they keep screaming this in our faces. So, of course, we will talk about it, but we'll get there. And then we've got big midterm talk because Indiana didn't want to redistrict. The Republicans were like, no, we won't do that. So, of course, there are questions about the midterms, and I, for one, want to win, because I don't want to go back to an era where we had lockdowns and people were forced to get medicated and things like that, and they were censoring us. So I think it's pretty dang important. We actually win this one.
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Starting point is 00:04:39 winter in West Virginia. Indeed, I love it. So who are you? What do you do? I am the CEO and co-founder of Moms for Liberty. We're a national nonprofit organization fighting for parental rights, better education in America, standing up for kids, getting the big government out of our families. Right on. Well, thanks for hanging out. It should be fun. We've got Libby hanging out. I'm here. I'm hanging out. Really glad to be here with you guys. I'm Libby Emmons from the post-millennial and human events. Guys, what is going on? It is Brett. Pop Culture Crisis. Brett Cooper. I was going to start with What's Up, y'all, and do this, but I did not. Pop Culture Crisis is about to hit 384,000 subscribers. You should go over there and check out the channel. Hello, everybody. I am Dr. Philip Labonte from All That Remains. I am an anti-communist and counter-revolutionary. Let's get into it.
Starting point is 00:05:26 So for those I have no idea why that just happened, Tate came to me this morning and he said, Grock's just straight up lying about the Timcast crew. It's the weirdest thing ever. And so I pulled up Grock and I said, who are the staff at Timcast, IRL? And it said, Tim Poole, Phil McGraw, Brett Cooper, and Ian Crossland.
Starting point is 00:05:48 And we started laughing. I was like, Phil McGrath. I was like, Dr. Phil and Brett Cooper. And so I asked it about Brett Cooper. and it gave me this really long-winded. It kept going talking about how Brett Cooper worked for Timcast on Pop Culture Crisis before going solo.
Starting point is 00:06:03 And it's just, it made everything up. It said that she moved from Maryland to Tennessee. And you know, I realized it's not lying. It's in another dimension. It's an alternate reality. So it's getting everything right. It's just too good of AI. Elucinations are back, baby.
Starting point is 00:06:20 That's right. I'm not mad. I'm not famous. Phil should be mad. Phil's famous. and they're mixing love with another famous person. Everything's all like water off a duck's back. All the chat, GBT's and everything still called Trump,
Starting point is 00:06:33 former President Trump. I mean, the amount of lies in these machines is a precursor for the end of information storage in humanity. How fun. All right, let's jump into the first story we got for you guys. Now, we have this story from CBS News. Erica Kirk has one word for Candice Owens, who's been peddling conspiracy theories about Charlie Kirk.
Starting point is 00:06:53 And admittedly, it's all a bit of heavy drama. But I actually think this does matter for a variety of reasons. And I think this is actually a big piece of the story today, which was Tyler Robinson had his first in-person hearing. And we're learning a lot about what's going on. Now, however, there are way too many people that live in Wally World believing the most insane things because of Candace Owens. Now, I'm not going to sit here and claim the feds are telling you the truth or the FBI is right
Starting point is 00:07:21 about everything. And by all means, you're allowed to believe it's a cover up. certainly tell you that 68 Egyptian planes flying around on Utah time or whatever it is, you know, the argument that she's making. She claimed that E4s and E5s were lieutenant colonels. Do you see this going viral recently? It is, it is the epitome of unvetted absurdity. Got to salute the E4 mafia now. Yeah, that's right. And she's saying that the U.S. military is involved and Bridget McCrone's a man and all of these things. And it's all tied together. And it is crack pottery, but there are many people who are falling for this. Now, I want to get to the bottom of who killed
Starting point is 00:07:51 Charlie Kirk. And it may or may not be Tyler Robinson. I think the evidence suggests it is because it's silly to think that the feds were going to plot out this cover up and then do it as miserably as is being suggested. It may actually just be that the shooter plotted things out miserably as it has been suggested. But Erica Kirk has finally come out, and we have the story from CBS News. Erica is one word for Candace Owens, who has been peddling conspiracy theories about her late husband. She said, stop. And the town hall set to air, said, 8 p.m. CBS News editor-in-chief Barry Weiss asked Charlie Kirk's widow what she wants to say to Owens and others who are making unfounded claims about his assassination. Stop. That's it. That's all I have to say,
Starting point is 00:08:33 stop. Owens used to work for TPSA, the conservative youth organization, this we all know, we understand. Now, we have a response. Candice Owens has basically said no. They're going to say that Eric Kirk talks more about her husband, so it's going to be airing later. Candice Owens is saying, her direct response was that Erica Kirk said stop lying. That was the question. And so Candace says, be more specific. What am I lying about? And it's funny because she pledged before that she would stop if Erica Kirk asked. So this is a grift. She's just peddling this for attention and it's nonsense. And I do fear, again, to all those, I know a lot of people out there saying this is stupid drama. Who cares? What I care about is a tainted jury pool. And when they actually start to bring jurors in
Starting point is 00:09:20 and they are asked, do you think Tyler, like, have you heard anything about Tyler Robinson? Yes, I have. And what have you've heard? I heard that he's innocent. Candice Owen says it was the military that did it. That's going to tank the jury pool. And I almost wonder if she's doing it on purpose. You know, there's a lot of people out there that say things like, oh, you know, it's okay for people to ask questions and stuff. And fair enough, it is okay for people to ask questions. But Candace isn't just asking questions. She's implying things, first of all. She's bringing up the FBI. And this is a Utah case. Right? Like this isn't, as far as I know, this is not a federal case. This is being tried in Utah.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Yeah, it's Utah prosecutors. Yeah. So it would be state, it'd be the state police and the state DA that are actually handling it. The FBI was there to support, but the FBI isn't actually doing the case. There's just so many holes in everything that she says. And it's totally ridiculous. Let me play this clip. You can hear what she said. I already had this business. I was already at top of the chart. Okay. I said I wasn't going to talk about it. I actually did because it's so ridiculous. Okay. But she says, I'm lying. And Eric responds.
Starting point is 00:10:19 And her answer to what do you want to say to the podcaster, Candice Owens, who is lying, is stop. So Erica would like me to stop lying. And I would like to honor that, okay? I can only honor that if Erica is more explicit in terms of what I have lied about. Shocker. What did I lie about? Well, we can start with that when she said, quote, The shooting that Tim survived was committed by his brother.
Starting point is 00:10:50 We can start there. You lied about that. Now, fine. That's not about Charlie. That's about me. But you're a liar who makes things up all the time. How about when you claimed that, I don't know, the easiest one most recently was that E4s and E5s were lieutenant colonels. They're not.
Starting point is 00:11:04 I think it's 06. I'm not, but is it 06? I think an 04 is a major. O5 would be lieutenant colonel, I think. O? See, I don't actually know. But I certainly know the difference between E and O. enlisted in officers, and she doesn't. She has lied quite a great deal. And here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:11:24 The game she's playing is, I'll start here. I have seen text messages. There are several conservatives who said Candace Owens was going around in the few months before Charlie was assassinated saying she hated Charlie Kirk. That is true. That is true. I have seen the texts. Now, the issue is, did she actually say it? Well, these people are going around behind the scenes being like, this is what Candace Owens told me. Candice is playing this game where she's saying, I got a tip from the military, this is proof. Well, clearly she didn't because this guy didn't know what an officer was. Is it true that Candace got an email?
Starting point is 00:12:05 Probably. And then she takes that email without vetting it, without fact checking it, and reports whatever it is as truth and says, I didn't lie. I told you, I got an email that said this. That's the game she's playing. it's it's the same like I said it's she's just making these implications she just pulls any kind of garbage out of her whatever so that way she can you know continue the grift because she doesn't answer questions she's always got people hanging on the ledge people can infer their own ideas from the things that she says and and you know people eat it up because it's just gossipy you know
Starting point is 00:12:40 a true crime graph do you think this will have strong implications on the trial oh yeah 100% I think that the, I think that the, there was a hearing today. It was the first time that Robinson was in court and it was really interesting to watch. There was a lot of legal jargon and I was with my team and we were like, okay, what does that mean? What does this mean? And we were trying to figure it out. But one thing that was really important to both the defense and the prosecution. And so you have the defense, the prosecution, and then you have two lawyers in there that are represented media, right, two different groups of media that are in there saying like, we need access. This is a one-a situation. And so there are. all negotiating different things, dates and, you know, what's permissible and media access and all of these things. And one of the things that was true for all three of those groups of attorneys was that they were all saying that the trial needed to be very clearly transparent and fair. You know, that was the key thing. And pretty much everything they were arguing about was how to ensure that the trial was as just and fair as possible. And that's the, That's their biggest concern with having media in there, with all of this talk that they had about, you know, what's classified as a witness.
Starting point is 00:13:51 But the question is, are the manipulations in lies from Candace's own going to affect the outcome later on? I think anything that jurors here ahead of time is going to impact it. We see that with past trials as well. Like, if there's the more publicity, I mean, I think that we can be worried about the Luigi and Mangione case as well, because you have all these people out there just being super supportive of the alleged killer. as opposed to looking for justice. They're looking for all of these reasons why he's not the guy. Reminds me of during the George Floyd,
Starting point is 00:14:24 during the Derek Chauvin trial, when they wanted to change a venue and they didn't get it? Yeah, they didn't get it. And then you also had jurors after the fact saying that they didn't necessarily believe that Chauvin killed him, but they thought that he wasn't like compassionate enough for it. You have had cops come out after that saying
Starting point is 00:14:41 the knee hold or whatever it is was standard police procedure. and Chauvin followed it and the cops have come out and been like so police brass essentially lied when they said that he wasn't supposed to do that. That was part of our training. And there was a lot of stuff in the Chauvin case where ahead of time you even, I think had the, I think you even had like the governor being like this guy has to be convicted. You had a lot of people being like this guy has to be convicted. Even Joe Biden, I think, at the time was demanding that Chauvin be convicted before he'd seen the evidence and it was all just prejudicial. And then the judge said that it was impossible to have
Starting point is 00:15:18 a fair trial, but they wouldn't move. And I think that's grounds for total dismissal. Instead, they had a biased jury that came in at, surrounded by men with guns as rioters burnt down the city. And they were supposed to give an honest assessment of what actually happened. What I absolutely love about the Chauvin trial was when the police testified from, it was actually the defense that brought this up, the continuum on the use of force. They said that Chauvin's, they said that Chauvin was actually entitled based on the resisting of arrest from Floyd to use a taser to escalate from a physical restraint to an impact weapon and chose not to, which clearly shows that he limited the use of force against George Floyd. That had been because he was saying that he was having trouble breathing and the use of a taser would be. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:16:03 He could have taser. So I'm saying, is that why he probably chose not to rather than. No, because he should have. George Floyd was physically resisting arrest. when Chauvin arrived, this is a guy who fought his way out of a vehicle, and according to police training, he could have drawn his taser and shocked him. Oh, he said that he had problems breathing after he was already in the car. Right. And then he fought his way out.
Starting point is 00:16:24 And Chauvin opted for a leg on the neck restraint, on the neck slash back, you know, it's, you know. And they still said he was guilty. Because if you're in the jury and you walk into the building surrounded by a bunch of guys with guns as people are burning the city down. and what was it, what case was it where the pig's head was sent to the person's house? I forgot about that one. I don't know if that was Chauvin. Yeah, I don't remember. Or like written house or something.
Starting point is 00:16:49 But yeah, the jury gets the message. And the judge was told they need to move venues. And he says there's nowhere in the state where you'll get a fair trial. The media is poisoning the well on Mangione too. Remember I said I just literally, Tim, I sent you a message the other day about like there was an article on TMZ that just called him the killer rather than putting alleged in front of it, which they should be doing until he's processing. prosecuted anyways. Yeah. So now you have, like the story that I told where I met three young men who said, you know, what do you think? It was an expert witness in the Chauvin trial. Yeah, you had a pig. A pig's head. A pig's head at his home. Right. Messer loud and clear. And then I met these three young guys,
Starting point is 00:17:26 they're Gen Z and they believe everything Candace said. They were like, Israel killed Charlie Kirk. And they were like, they said they believe Candace. And this is the narrative that she has created. So her show getting as much viewership as it does, these people are going to be called to testify or they're going to be called to the jury and they're going to have a very difficult time finding an untainted jury pool because they're going to be like, I heard it was Israel. What about the Bush? And they're going to be like, there's no Bush. What about that secret underground hatch? And they're like that you're talking about a control panel. And they're going to be like, but what about the Egyptian airplanes?
Starting point is 00:18:02 And they go, that's not real. Okay, this jury's out. This juror is out. And it's going to be a ton of them. And then the worst thing, some of them will just lie. Because their attitude is going to be, I have to take this into my own hands to expose them. And Candace Owens already said she thought that Tyler Robinson was innocent. So here we go.
Starting point is 00:18:21 Yep. Do you really think that I feel like a lot of this is on X and in Candice world, average people on the street? It hasn't made it to the level of riots in the street. When you're comparing the cases, the George Floyd case, it was present. in the streets everywhere, riots. It was all over every news channel. I feel like some of this is in podcast X world. And maybe average Americans that might be called for the jury pool actually haven't heard
Starting point is 00:18:49 about any of this. I think if you're outside of Utah, that might be the case. But I think that in Utah, which is obviously the jurisdiction, I think that people are probably acutely aware of it. And I imagine they're more, you know, they're more receptive to the media that's going on. not saying that you're wrong, but I think that I think you're right in, you know, other places as it gets further away. But in Utah, this is, you know, Utah is not the most populous state, specifically in, you know, it was in the Salt Lake area. I mean, it's a fairly, it's, it's, it's a fairly small community.
Starting point is 00:19:22 And I think that people are probably, what? Utah County. When I, when I, when I, when I, when I, I, I, I, I think, like I said, I think you're, I think you're right nationally. But I imagine in Utah where they need to find the jury, it's probably a, it's probably a, when I, when I, when I, I'm, I'm not. little more cute. I think it's going to be saturated in Utah because these are people who are searching for it. So who has done a show consistently talking about this more than anybody else, Candace Owens. And so I imagine the people in these communities are going to be going online and looking more into it because they're being affected by it. And they're going to find the one show
Starting point is 00:19:52 that keeps doing it. But more importantly, part of the breaking point for me was when I bumped into three random Gen Z guys. And they were like, Candice says Israel's trying to kill her and they killed Charlie Kirk. And I have to be like, let me ask you a bunch of questions. And then it turns out they believe a bunch of deranged nonsense. So yeah, it's absolutely reaching normies. These are not kids who watch the news. These were young guys just out on a Friday night. That's how widespread her stuff has become.
Starting point is 00:20:16 And she brags about it. She brags about it. Let's jump to the story from Newsweek. This is the major breaking news. Charlie Kirk's accused killer, Tyler Robinson smiles in first court appearance. They say Tyler Robinson, who previously appeared only by audio and video feed from jail,
Starting point is 00:20:30 entered the courtroom wearing a dress shirt, tie, and slacks, with restraints on his wrist and ankles. the AP reported that he smiled towards family members seated in the front row. His mother wiped away tears as his father and brother sat beside her. Close circuit video from the courtroom also shows Robinson smiling and laughing while commenting to one of his attorneys. A state judge is weighing the public's right to transparency against concerns from Robinson's defense team that intense media scrutiny could jeopardize his ability to receive a fair trial. I think that's a silly prospect. I also think there's something particularly telling in all this.
Starting point is 00:21:01 Why hasn't his parents come out and claimed he was innocent? Has that happened? No, they have not. They haven't said anything. And they have been speaking with him virtually. And they have, you know, they haven't said anything publicly. I think they might be under a gag order. But even so, if it were my son and he was innocent and I was under a gag order, I would go to prison screaming for his innocence. Didn't his father turn him in? Am I? Well, yeah. I mean, if you, that's exactly right. So the day after Charlie was killed, the FBI released the surveillance video. There was some internal dissonable. discussion in Utah as to whether that video should be released. And in fact, his mother and father were able to recognize him from the video. And the sheriff in, what is it, George County, is that what it is? Where Robinson is from, gave a whole press conference about exactly what went down. And so the parents had recognized him. They called him. They tried to get in touch with him. They said, you know, why don't you come home and we'll talk about it? He didn't live
Starting point is 00:22:01 with them, but, you know, come back to the childhood home. They talked about it. They ended up contacting a friend of theirs who was in law enforcement. This is all from the sheriff's press conference. They ended up contacting a family friend who was in law enforcement who helped them facilitate turning him in and the conditions by which he would go turn himself in. And among those conditions were that his parents could stay with him the whole time until the police and the jurisdiction were able to come get him. So he sat with his parents for three hours in that sheriff's office and the sheriff didn't question him didn't do anything they were just waiting for the jurisdiction police to come down and pick him up which they did but yeah the the sheriff was very
Starting point is 00:22:45 clear exactly what went on and in fact in that press conference part of why he was giving that press conference was to explain that one of his former deputies or something who had the same name as the law enforcement friend of the family was not the guy he was like stop harassing this guy this was not the guy. And yeah, that's, that's what happened. And since then, his parents have been silent. They've been communicating with him virtually. And today it was reported that they were actually, his parents, plus another relative, were in the courtroom. And when the, and at a certain point, the judge said, you know, we're going to close to, we're going to close to press right now, and we'll bring press back in a little, but we're going to close right now so that we can
Starting point is 00:23:31 talk about some different security matters for this case. And the, I think it was the prosecutors stood up and said, you know, his family is here. Can they stay for this? And the judge said, no, they can't stay. And so there were reports on Twitter from Brian Enten, who's a reporter. And he was saying, he was in the courtroom. And he said, now his mother's out here in the hall crying, you know, and she's just out here with the rest of us. Yeah. So, so it's pretty crazy. Candace had stated that she thought Robinson was innocent or something that effect. And I think, you know, it's been a while since you talked about it, but that is his parents didn't actually turn him in or something that effect. She has questioned the official narrative.
Starting point is 00:24:15 And there are a lot of people that believe the parents actually didn't turn him in and none of this is true. But the parents were sitting right there. They've not come out and said, our child is innocent or anything like that. No. They have every opportunity to do that. And that's something typical that happens in defense when someone's family member is being prosecuted, but they're not. Right. Have we learned anything about what their defense is intending to say? No, we have not. They have been pretty closed about it. They're really intent on keeping cameras out of the courtroom and they're really intent on tightening this up. He hasn't entered a plea yet. Yeah. This is weird.
Starting point is 00:24:47 Yeah. I mean, I don't, if it were my kid and I believed in his innocence, like, you know, you guys are parents, you'd go to the mat. You know, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I think it's, I mean, I think it's got to. be devastating for the you know i i i have grace feelings of grace for everybody involved in this and i i feel badly for his parents for anyone that's not conspiracy minded the evidence that you that is publicly available makes you say yeah it was probably that kid obviously you have to wait for the court case and obviously things can come out in the in the trial and stuff but unless you're the kind of person that is already incredibly skeptical of the government and incredibly skeptical of the official narrative and you don't have
Starting point is 00:25:32 ulterior motives. This is kind of like yeah, I mean, it looks like the kid did it. You know, the parents turned him in, got these emails and or these text messages. There were also discord messages that he sent his like gaming friends. Yeah. There was talk about it prior to it. There were always that there were
Starting point is 00:25:48 the text messages to the Lance Twiggs guy. To think that it wasn't him or to be so strongly, to believe so strongly that it wasn't him to that say, we have to find, you know, I find the real killer and we need to ask all these questions. You have to be incredibly conspiracy-minded and you have to be generally too online, to your point. There's also kind of this thing of like Charlie was so big, right?
Starting point is 00:26:15 He was such a big thought leader in this movement. He touched everybody's lives. He held so many people together who, you know, adored him and maybe didn't like each other. And so to think that like some twerpy, you know, lots of things I won't say on Air Kid would just could take someone like that down. It is kind of hard to believe that just because just of like, you know, the stature. It's such a, you know, like anyone is vulnerable, but anyone is vulnerable to something like that. You know what really fascinates me? The people who follow Candace are willing to believe the French Foreign Legion and Israel are trying to kill her, but not.
Starting point is 00:26:55 that a crackpot leftist killed Charlie Kirk. We literally watched video of Tesla's burning of people getting out of vehicles like there's a video of a car on a highway speeding up in front of him and slamming his brakes on, getting out and screaming at her
Starting point is 00:27:11 because he's into Tesla. We've seen news reports of Tesla's unloaded upon. There is video of a man walking up to a Trump supporter and yelling, what does he say like, we got one here or something like that? And then he puts two bullets in the chest of Aaron Danielson. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:27:26 And so when there's a shooting at a university in Charlie is speaking and quick work, they find a suspect with leftist sympathies, a trans boyfriend, and these chats from leftists and trans people online saying something is going to happen to Charlie, it's like, wow, there's a preponderance of evidence here. Let's see what else they present in trial. And there are people going, nah, I can't believe that at all. But the French Foreign Legion, Emmanuel Macron and Israelis are currently out to get Candace. Well, people were primed from COVID to not trust government narratives on just about every level.
Starting point is 00:28:00 And it kind of ties in also with a lot of distrust with the FBI right now because people didn't think, don't think Cash Patel is doing the job he's supposed to be doing. So you can't have a movement that's been unbelievably critical of official narratives for such a long time and not expect something like this to eventually come to ahead and go off the rails at a certain point. I think it was I think it was fodder. I think it was perfect timing. When we had this incident, Saturday, morning. They were people tweeting that the shooting before any information came out. They were saying
Starting point is 00:28:30 that it was because Milo was speaking the truth and they were trying to stop us. Not a joke. They were tweeting that Milo came on the show and he was speaking the truth and so someone was sent to stop them. It's, it is actually really simple. Our security reported a gray sedan had been circling the building all day and they were keeping an eye out. And then a similar vehicle, similar looking vehicle opened fire around midnight. It is scary to realize that one crazy person who has a legal weapon and knows where you are can end you. Be you famous or otherwise. Why is it so hard to believe that Tyler Robinson is the person?
Starting point is 00:29:04 It's actually not. That was kind of my point earlier. It's not hard to believe. You have to be motivated to not believe it. Or at least to be like, no, this is definitely not it. We need to find the real truth. You have to have a motivation. And to your point, Brett, the real damage.
Starting point is 00:29:21 the the real damage from COVID is that people just don't believe anything. There were so many people that in the beginning of COVID, they got taken. They were like, you know, everyone believed that COVID was going to be the end of the world. And it was going to be the new pandemic that really, you know, killed billions and billions of people and all of this stuff. And so there's a lot of people that are just like, I'm not going to get taken again. So if the government says it, it definitely isn't true. And again, it doesn't matter that it's not actually the FBI doing the investigation, that it's the state of Utah. It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:29:57 It's the authority. And the people that are motivated to say, I don't believe the authority, no matter what they tell me, they're definitely lying. And part of this, to your point again, like you said, the problem, it rests with the government. It's because they were actually deceptive, the American people about COVID. When people were like, oh, you can't go to the, you know, you have to stand six feet. away from people, but it's perfectly fine if you're out protesting for George Floyd. People were just like, man, this is all BS. And rightly so, you know? I think the bigger problem is people can't critical think. And so I wonder what this age range is of people, A, that were taken during
Starting point is 00:30:35 COVID, you know, tricked during COVID and now woke up and are angry. And then I wonder of the people now that are online that are so gullible in believing everything and anything and following it, is that the younger generation? It's because of the lack of education and the, ability to critical think. You know, we've seen that happen over the last five years. I don't think you're wrong, but I do honestly. I think that I think you're right. It is the gullible people. And there's a certain amount of ego that goes along with it. If you're a little below average of intelligence, you definitely don't want to think that people are smarter than you. And you want to sit and you want to be able to say, look, I'm actually smart. I know the real
Starting point is 00:31:14 stuff. And you see it all over the internet. People that are just like, you're dumb because you believe this. I'm the smart one. And you can, I mean, I see it in my, in my mentions all the time. People, they don't just say, no, man, that's wrong. It's, you're an idiot. I'm so much smarter than you. I'm better than you. And it's a ton of ego. It's an ego boost. It makes people, it makes people feel good about themselves to say, you're dumb. And I'm the one with the special, special knowledge, the insider knowledge, because I watch Candace Owens. It almost makes you wish for that. Like people in my life that participate in my life that they don't quite say it that derogatory.
Starting point is 00:31:55 But they say, you'll see. You'll figure it out. Let me know. When you learn, when you understand. And I'm like, oh, good grief. We do have a sort of feeling in our culture that there's always, it's like, I often think that America is a place that is so addicted to the concept of authenticity that we're constantly trying to peel back the onion to find the real. thing? What's the real thing? What's the real thing? And maybe it's because we're a young country and we don't have the kind of ancient thing where like if you're doing a public works project
Starting point is 00:32:29 in Greece, you start digging and then you're like, damn it, ruins. Oh, you know, like now I have to, now it's a historical site and we have to put the public thing somewhere else. You know what I mean? My uncle had a B&B in Crete and he used to make this, he and my aunt and he's since passed. but he used to make this joke that if you find ruins in your backyard chuck them over the fence in your neighbor's yard so that it's their problem. You know, you don't want the ruins at your house
Starting point is 00:32:56 because then you have to stop work or whatever. But I think we're hooked on this idea that there's always something deeper and something more nefarious going on. And, you know, sometimes that's just not what's happening. Let's jump to this next story and get serious with these midterms.
Starting point is 00:33:14 We've got this from Mediite. Indiana Senate vote. against Trump-backed redistricting plan. Surprise, surprise. Let's pull up this tweet, actually, from Tony Cook. He says, breaking, Indiana Senate votes down redistricting bill, breaking with President Trump. And you can see the A's 31, the Yays 19.
Starting point is 00:33:34 And I have this clip here from Greg Price. He says, Indiana Senate Majority Leader Chris Garten just gave a fiery speech in favor of the 9-0 map. Some will say these maps are political. Let me be clear. You're damn right they are. Policy is political. Safe streets are political.
Starting point is 00:34:01 Look at Indianapolis. Affordable electricity is political. A drug-free Indiana is political. Peace in the Middle East is political. I dealt with it firsthand. If drawing a map that secures two more seats for the Republican Party means that we continue to see overdose deaths drop by, 20% then I'll draw that map every single day of the week and twice on Sunday.
Starting point is 00:34:31 If drawing a map means that we'll continue to see it 93% drop in a legal immigration, and I'll sign it with a smile on my face. Be neutral arbiters of decline. We're here to be active agents of American greatness. Wow. So I ask you. I wish I had 2% of the fiery passion and charisma that man has. I'm riled up.
Starting point is 00:35:03 I want more of that. We got this from Tyler Boyer at Turning Point. It says turning point action will be publicly endorsing opponents of the state senators who voted against the redistricting today. Good. They thought we were bluffing. No, we will educate voters and throw thousands of volunteers and staff at their local districts. Let's go. And real quick, I just got to shout out that Chris Garten once again, man, that guy needs to run for the senator or something.
Starting point is 00:35:28 I'd like to see that guy in federal politics. But, you know, I respect him fighting for his state. That's beautiful. Libby, you were saying earlier they have a super majority in Indiana and they still didn't make it, right? Yeah, 19 Republicans voted against this and they all should be absolutely ashamed of themselves. You have the entire Democratic Party working so hard to do all kinds of really stupid, stupid things from flood our nation with illegal immigrants and trans our kids and, you know, push DEI in school. even though it doesn't actually do anything positive for the kids. It just makes everything worse.
Starting point is 00:36:05 Literally, like, if people are upset about Nick Fuentes, DEI is why Nick Fuentes exists. Well, yeah, because the thing is, like, I was just, Tina and I were just talking about this before the show. There was this educational hearing in the Kentucky state legislature, and you have this one state senator being like, hey, we got to get rid of DEI in schools because all of our kids are failing everything and our discipline problems. And everybody else is like, but there's discrimination. And so this is, we have to fix it. And it's like, okay, first of all, maybe there's discrimination at this point. I don't really think there is.
Starting point is 00:36:39 You know, they're all living 50 years ago in some sort of time capsule. And then the other piece of it is just because you've identified a problem doesn't mean that the proposed solution is the one that's going to fix it. Like you're idiots, you know, like just because you think like, oh, there's this issue, there's discrimination. Actually, you know, what they believe is being discriminatory. They're sort of circa 1960. They don't really identify what's going on. They live in their own stupid bubbles. You're channeling this man's energy now.
Starting point is 00:37:07 I was writing about this lady last night. Sarah Stalker from Kentucky is a complete and total moron. And she should be ashamed of herself. She went out there on the state legislature and she was like, I don't like being white all the time. And children need to know about their historical privilege. No, they don't, idiot. Don't go around telling children that there's something wrong with them
Starting point is 00:37:27 because of the color of their skin. Like that's racist. That gif of the kid, that's racist. That's racist. Yeah. You fool. And like I saw this, the Sarah Stocker clip. I actually put it in the IRS slack.
Starting point is 00:37:40 Let's grab it. Sernovich was talking about it. Watch the whole hearing. I tweeted about it and I was like, this is why so many people, so many young white men, think that Nick Fuentes is compelling. Because you're telling them that they're evil by nature of their skin. color and then you have public policy that is literally oppressing them, that is ostracizing them, that you're keeping them out of colleges, they're not getting jobs, they're not getting,
Starting point is 00:38:08 they're not, you know, going out and meeting girls. What do you think is going to happen when you tell an entire generation of young men that they are inherently evil? They're going to coalesce around the thing that makes them all the same and that's their white skin. The bigger picture I see here with the Indiana Senate is that people are begging Republicans to do anything. And Republicans are begging them to accept them doing nothing. So the Republicans are getting very little done. And now in Indiana, where they have an opportunity, they're basically doing nothing. So if you want to get people to come out in the midterms and rally, I understand it's like
Starting point is 00:38:51 the last two months of the race that really matter most. And right now will be forgotten within a few months. But you better do a lot more than this. Because it seems like they're trying to lose. Yeah, California. Gavin Newsom, he got his whole prop 50 passed. They're going to eliminate Republican seats essentially in the state. You had all of these states in New England being like, we're going to redistrict too. And it's like you're already entirely blue.
Starting point is 00:39:14 You know, you like redistrict what? 40% of New England voted for Donald Trump. And those people have no representation at all. I was back visiting family outside of Boston just over Thanksgiving. And I was talking to them about it. and they were like, yeah, we don't have a vote. We're not represented at all. I feel, you know, I feel really bad for, like the worst.
Starting point is 00:39:32 The team over at 270 to win. Because, you know, they have this election tracker map for the House and the Senate and the presidency, every election. And it's going to keep changing because everyone is redistricting now to try and gain advantages. So it's going to, here's the amazing thing. You can see that there's 185 deep red and there's 167 deep blue. And then there's a gradient in between. it's going to turn into a solid red and blue line.
Starting point is 00:39:58 That's the plan. Right. And the reason why I say I feel bad for them is because they're going to have to keep updating their code. It's important. Yeah, it's like one IT guy and they're like, not an IT guy, but like a software dev guy. And they're just saying, hey, look, another state's redistricting. He's like, I'll go fix it. It's like, I'm going to change everything again.
Starting point is 00:40:15 And those little squiggly lines. Here's what I find really interesting, actually, is I want to pull up, let me see if I can pull up the prediction market. here. Let's see. Let's grab which party will win in the House from Kalshi. So we've got this from Kalshi. Currently, the Democratic Party is at 74% favorability to win control of the House in the midterms. But as each state does or does not redistrict, it's going to cause massive swings in their prediction market. This is going to be interesting if people are accounting for it. Now, Indiana just said no, Democrats should tick slightly upward. They don't want to redistrict.
Starting point is 00:40:57 I've got this here. Let me pull up, where did I just put that thing? Here we go. You think Jasmine Crockett will win in Texas, win the Senate? No way. You don't think so? She's running for Senate now instead. Check us out.
Starting point is 00:41:10 Current midterm redistricting status. California D plus 5, Utah D plus 1. You've got pending Democrat redistricting, Virginia D plus 2, Maryland D plus 1. And then you've got confirmed Republican with Texas, Missouri, Indiana, Ohio, North Carolina for 11 new seats. And pending, you've got Kansas, Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia, Florida, a total of 10 possibilities. The potential total is going to be Republican plus 21 and Democrat plus nine. This is crazy. Basically, every state now has decided to, in the middle of the decade, redistrict, to try and win the
Starting point is 00:41:43 midterms. Civil War much? I think it makes sense, though, because you had the, you had the census and okay, that's fine. But then Biden imported what? How many like 10, 20 million illegal immigrants just let everybody in, distributed them all over the country on free flights. No one even knew that these people were showing up in their communities until they were just there, giving them all like kinds of money and free phones and whatever else and then work authorizations after 180 days. And then also, what else did he do? He just dismissed like some 70% or something like that of asylum cases. So there's all these people who, who were seeking asylum, and now they're just in the country.
Starting point is 00:42:21 They have no legal status. They, you know, don't have to leave. So what are they doing there? Well, they're beefing up Democrat numbers in these districts. So it kind of makes sense for all of these places to be like, listen, you dumped heaps of new people on us who can't vote, but who we're supposed to try and represent. And now we have to kind of change things. I think that, you know, okay. I also just think I don't want to go back to a time where we're forced to.
Starting point is 00:42:49 get medications, can't go out and eat unless we wear two masks. So I'm willing to just vote Republican, even if they are just like a turtle in the middle of the road slowing your car down. My favorite was Alyssa Milano's Crochade mask. Yep. And how she had to act like she didn't, how she had to act like she knew it didn't actually protect anything. She was like, no, I knew that it had holes in it. Yeah, it was, I knew it. Crochet. Yeah, it was crocheted. It was a picture a selfie of her and her husband and their kids in their car and they all had like normal masks. and she was like, mine is pretty. Let's pull up that video we've got this year from Rep Sarah Stalker.
Starting point is 00:43:25 I have guilt every day for being white and kids should too. Children. I'm going to be honest. I don't feel good about being white every day for a lot of reasons. Retardation? Because it's a point of privilege. That's the biggest one. That I get to move through the world in a way that so many of my other colleagues and friends
Starting point is 00:43:42 and family members of the community don't get the privilege to do. and I'm and I'm just a female but just a woman just a white woman if if I was a right man I would be functioning from a point of even greater privilege I think we're missing an opportunity when kids when kids have a moment to reflect about she's trying to put a thought together of their skin does and does not allow them to move through the world it's running running to them and trying to stifle that in trying to say you shouldn't feel bad so we don't want to ever expose you to something that
Starting point is 00:44:22 is going to make you have to pause and have maybe some internal feelings. It's a missed opportunity for some really good dialogue. Have you noticed how she keeps whistling on her ses? Oh, I was wrong by the way. 21 Republicans voted against 19 voted for. I thought it was more. I thought it was
Starting point is 00:44:38 in that story it shows 31 nays, 19 yays. Okay. Well, someone from my team was just like you were wrong. Oh. Is it, was it like Bill to quash this or something?
Starting point is 00:44:51 I don't know. I don't know. So anyway, this video that you posted, Libby, is it slightly different? I think it's a longer one, but I have another one here. Let me give you the other. She said more?
Starting point is 00:44:59 No. No. Please don't make me watch anything like that again. Listen, we cannot have someone like that and her people in charge of this country again. You're talking about the midterms. You're talking about redistricting.
Starting point is 00:45:12 I'm sitting over here. I'm thinking about what happened in my state of Miami. this past week with their mayor election. How did that happen? A Democrat won in Miami? Did you see the stats? You just said plus 10 and plus five or 10 seats in Florida. Like we have over a million Republican voters in our state.
Starting point is 00:45:31 Miami hasn't had a Democrat in charge, I don't know, 40, 50, 60 years or something like that. It is crazy. And I, you know, I'm listening to people that are having these other off elections in places around the country. And it's, they're losing the Republicans and the conservatives. and the conservatives are losing everywhere. And if we don't get our act together, if the Republicans don't get their heads out of their rear ends. And I get fired up and I get angry, very, very angry.
Starting point is 00:45:56 Because what they did to kids under the Biden administration, what they did to moms under the Biden administration, we cannot have that woman back in power. What is this woman's name, Libby? Sarah Stalker. She really helps me understand bang, zoom, straight to the moon. They're all like this, though. That lady next to her, she sucks too.
Starting point is 00:46:14 old enough to get that. Yeah. Did you understand what I just said? No. To the moon, Alice. Oh, to the moon Alice. I get Alice.
Starting point is 00:46:20 It was a joke implying that her incessant nagging makes me able to strike her. It's a joke I don't really want to. It's from the honeymooners. I think that show was a little problematic and there was probably a lot of domestic violence.
Starting point is 00:46:31 One of the best jokes ever was featureama when they go to the moon and the whales on the moon. They're like, Earth astronauts were very fat and he's like, one of these days, Alice, bang, zoom, straight to the moon.
Starting point is 00:46:45 No, no, no. And then Lila was like, I didn't realize astronauts are so fat. And then he goes, he's not an astronaut. He was just using space travel as a metaphor for beating his wife. That's so good. To the point about this woman,
Starting point is 00:46:58 this is a woman in a position of authority. You know, literally saying that people voted for her. Children should feel inherently bad about their skin color. Wait, we should play this clip. Within JCPS. We have a really diverse body of students.
Starting point is 00:47:17 We have 145 languages that are spoken, and we have a really high percentage of kids that are on free and reduced lunch. Bro, she's cobra commanders. In the term DEI, I, inclusive, diversity, equity, inclusion, inclusion. It's about including everyone. White people have never been excluded. what the efforts of DEI is trying to do within a school setting now is to pull in other students. Their stories are relative.
Starting point is 00:47:51 Their culture, their history, those things are important to see reflective in the reading material. And if we don't allow those things to come into our textbooks and to come into our conversations in the classroom and in a constructive way, then we are simply just trying to whitewash things. And I find that to be incredibly problematic. Okay. That's it. I'm Saudi Arabia. Here I come.
Starting point is 00:48:18 Sharia law. All of it. I'm just repealed the 19th doesn't go far enough. She has convinced me not only was she doing a vocal fry, but she was also hissing. Yes, she's also. You know what? By all means, everyone now pile on and talk about the things that she said, the merit of her idea is being bad.
Starting point is 00:48:36 And then I'm just going to be like, but she was vocal. frying cool. She's awful. Everything about her is awful. And that little glasses next to her, she sucks too. She said stupid stuff also. They all said stupid stuff. And in fact, I was going to clip way more of this. And then I had to like go do more of my job instead of pay attention to these idiot women.
Starting point is 00:48:56 But they're so foolish because they act like they're saying something that is really profound. And they're saying that this woman's solution, getting rid of DEI is bad because of all of their ideological whimsy. but it's founded in nothing. And you had this woman glasses over here. She was like, you know, can you show me some studies, peer-reviewed studies? No, it wasn't her. It was a different stupid woman in this legislature. It's all women in this legislature.
Starting point is 00:49:25 I don't know what Kentucky is doing wrong, but they're really not sending their best to run this state. You know, they've like just gone way too far in the other direction. And the couple of men that did speak up in this hearing, they were like so meek about it. And I was like, fellas, fellas. Like grab your balls and stand up. Look, if men are... Listen, it's the testosterone.
Starting point is 00:49:42 These guys, they need to take... Did it drop trial and put a redlet on their balls to get a testosterone thing? That's the only answer. They gotta do something. I guarantee if men stood up and sounded assertive, these women would say that they are trying to intimidate them. That it would be all, I don't know if there's... But then they might... Yes.
Starting point is 00:50:02 Then they might fall in line. Then they might fall in line. I was going to say, Phil, if these men stood up and talked back, they'd say, you, you. That's what they'd do. Yeah, I mean, possibly. Probably not these times. The people like this that believe this stuff,
Starting point is 00:50:22 if a man were to stand up and say, no, you're wrong and blah, blah, and be in an assertive way, they would see he was being toxicly masculine and that would, it was an unsafe environment, and they would use all of the buzzwords, and these guys would get censured in the, in the Kentucky's,
Starting point is 00:50:37 I, legislature, whatever. I know what to do. I want to tell you guys about chickens, but hear me out. Okay. So I'm sure all of you know about the pecking order. You've heard this, right? Sure. It's because chickens, hens, the females, they all create a pecking order, which is they peck at each other and then eventually figure out who's the, you know, the super hen, who's in charge.
Starting point is 00:51:00 And then there's a hierarchy, essentially. Roosters kind of have this. people believe that if you put two roosters in the same coop, they'll fight. That's not true. They stay away from each other so long as there's enough ladies to go around. So the guys will kind of just back off and they'll have their harem or whatever. Now here's the thing. They did an experiment where they said, what happens if we take the alpha hen at the top of the pecking order, another one from a different coop, and we put them all in one coop.
Starting point is 00:51:28 Will it create a new pecking order? No, they all murdered each other. Yeah. And so I'm saying we should take people like her and Elizabeth Warren and the rest of them and create a special legislative body for all of them so they can just scream at each other. You could do that, but if you put AOC in there, they'll just all, then they would create a new pecking order and she'd be in charge. You let them do that. You don't give them any actual voting power. They just get to argue amongst themselves and everybody else.
Starting point is 00:51:52 It's cathartic. Yeah. All right. I have a real solution not to plug my organization, but the whole point of moms. You have a great organization, though. Thank you. Appreciate it. I mean, the whole point of Moms for the Ritty when we started, and the reason it was titled Moms for the Rudy and it was a women's based organization is because we saw the lay of the land. And men really, especially in 21 when we launched, it was hard for them to stand up at school board meetings where you have these other women standing there for exactly what you're saying, the optics of what was going on. It was when the Biden administration was like the proud boys, this, that. Men were really being marginalized. And so in order to combat this woman, you're right. I don't know that you could go stand in there and
Starting point is 00:52:30 all your manly self and combat her in a fair fashion because she'll play victim. You'll look like the big, mean, bad guy. You need another mom. You need a softer, an equivalent woman in there that can speak intelligently that understands all the wrongs that this woman and her people are doing and can combat it. The issue that I see is that 50 Shades of Grey sold 150 million copies. And now you've got Minotaur milking farm or whatever it's called. Morning Glory milking.
Starting point is 00:52:59 Morning. Brett, I don't know why you know. the title. We talked about it on the show. I haven't read it. I have a great memory and I still can't remember the title of that book. Wait, is this that handmade thing? Have you guys seen the hand? No, no, no, no, no. The Morning Glory milking farm is the new
Starting point is 00:53:12 bestseller that women love, which is very similar to 50 Shades of Grey. So if you're not familiar, have either of you, are you familiar? I'd imagine you're not. I did not read it. Neither one of those books. So 50 Shades of gray is a college grad woman with debt. She can't afford to pay it back. It's kind of like secretary, right, with James Spader. I did watch that.
Starting point is 00:53:28 She meets a billionaire who puts her in a slave contract where he beats her and she loves it. And it sold 150 million copies because women loved it. And Morning Glory Milking Farm is basically the same thing. A young woman graduates college but she can't pay up for debt. So she takes a job at a glory hole facility where minotars go to get milked by young women. And it's like a bestseller. It's massive and women love it. My point is the things that motivate women are very different from the things that motivate men. and there's this trope, this idea, right? There's the male power fantasy.
Starting point is 00:54:03 When you watch a movie like Spider-Man from the 2000s, is a really great example of the male power fantasy. And that is the Green Goblin captures a school bus full of children and Peter's love and just Mary Jane. And he says, what will it be, Peter? Mary Jane or suffer the children? And Spider-Man saves them both. Because that's the male power fantasy.
Starting point is 00:54:24 Or like when Spider-Man's in the train, and screaming and like he's being ripped apart, but he saves everyone. The female power fantasy is represented in rom-coms, where the woman trounce is about doing whatever she wants and gets whatever she wants in the end. That's the trope. If you watch rom-coms, it's just she goofs off,
Starting point is 00:54:41 screws around at work, you know, or she, like, ditches her husband for some new guy she just met. Or there's that new show called Dying for Sex, where a woman who was with her husband for 15 years, gets stage four cancer, a terminal diagnosis. So she says, I'm leaving you, and then she goes and bangs 200 guys.
Starting point is 00:54:58 That's nasty. These are the shows, and I'm not saying all women are like this. I'm saying so long as you have these macro trends of we can see what it is that women will generally choose, it is absurd not to think they will generally choose similar things in politics. Now, I am not saying repeal the 19th. I don't go that far. I think there's a lot of dumb guys too.
Starting point is 00:55:16 I'm saying if we don't recognize the tendencies of female macro patterns, we are going to overlook psychopaths like this lady who burn down. the system. So what you're saying is to get rid of books like morning glory milking farm, we actually do have to cancel student debt because it's always about debt. That's right. Yes. So make a new book called like, you know, it's something about Zoran Mamdani and like he becomes president somehow. They overturn, which, which amendment is it? No, it's actually just in the Constitution, I think. It's one of the original articles. They passed a new
Starting point is 00:55:49 amendment allowing Zoran to be president. He cancels student loan debt and then has a harem. There you go. But all the girls of Williamsburg would love that. I know. I'd make a million dollars. I should write the book. Yeah. They would love that. Actually, that's a really good idea. Guys? Yeah. So all the guys out there listen to this right now. AI is your friend. You ask JetGPT to write you an erotic novel about Zona and Mamdani canceling student debt. And then you put it on Amazon and then make Facebook ads targeting an Instagram targeting specifically Williamsburg. You'll make a million dollars overnight. But what happens when Mom Donnie rejects the trans women as being part of his harem? And he's just like,
Starting point is 00:56:24 no trans women in the haram. There are people out there that swear up and die that mom don, he's an Islamist. He's not an Islamist. He is only using Islam as a means to avoid being accused of toxic masculinity. He is a leftist to his core. It has nothing. And we've all seen that little head, that little head nod thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:43 It has very, very little to do with his religion or with religion at all. It's all about leftism for him. Mm-hmm. All right. We got to jump to this next story, which actually I don't know that I, we're going to I guess, because it's in the news. I actually don't know how much I care, but they say, Mom 58 speaks out an attack at Nick Fuentes' home
Starting point is 00:57:02 as he accepts humiliating punishment for pushing her down the stairs. Controversial lives here, Nick Fuentes, has been ordered to attend anger management after pepper spraying a woman and shoving her down the steps of his Chicago area home. The far-right provocateur was accused of attacking 58-year-old Marla Rose.
Starting point is 00:57:18 In an incident, she captured on video after knocking on his door in Berwyn, Illinois, on November 10th, 2024, Fentes 27 was arrested in charge with one kind of misdemeanor battery, 17 days later and was released the same day. Along with court-mandated anger management course, Fendez must issue a formal apology to Rose in person, compensator $635 for the cell phone he broke, and complete 75 hours of community service before January 23rd. It can't be for white supremacist, Rose quipped in an interview with the Daily Mail referring to the community service. Court records show that Fuentes accepted the terms on Tuesday, two days before he was due to appear in court,
Starting point is 00:57:52 As part of the deal, there can be no further contact between the two. And this is why I chose West Virginia. Now, I think the mistake that Nick made is as soon as she went to the, as soon as she knocked in the door, he opened it and pepper sprayed her. He probably should have just not gone to the door and should have called the police. Yes. I do understand, however, I'm not completely faulting him because people were stalking his home and threatening to kill him.
Starting point is 00:58:16 And then a strange person shows up on his front door. And I think it's fair to say he really didn't know what he was doing. Yeah. Because certainly if he's accepting this agreement, if he really thought that he was just or that he was doing was right, he could have pleaded not guilty. However, in West Virginia, in order for you to access the property, we are gated. And if you trespass on my property and something bad happens, I'll just say that. We don't deal with this stuff out here. What happens?
Starting point is 00:58:42 In West Virginia? Yeah. Well, let me just remove... What? The US violations happen. Is that right? Oh, no, I can say. I'll put it like this.
Starting point is 00:58:51 Let's remove everything and just go into a neutral context. Okay. There is a, let's start with New Jersey. Uh-huh. Or we can go Chicago, but New Jersey is a good example, one of the worst states. A man kicks your door in and screams, I've got a gun and I'm going to kill your family. And then he turns and you are in the kitchen and he is standing there and you have a door behind you that leads out into your alley. If you say, I won't let you do that and shoot him, you have not.
Starting point is 00:59:21 murdered someone and that is a crime and you'll be charged the felony and arrested because you had an exit you could have ran away. That's trash. You are forced to retreat from your own home in New Jersey. Next up, we have Canada. We have Maryland. In Maryland, let's say you and your kids are out playing, let's say you have like five acres and your kids are on the front lawn playing when a man starts walking up and he's got a rifle
Starting point is 00:59:45 and he screams, I'm going to kill your family. You are required to run into your home and lock the door. and only if the person tries to break in, can you respond? So why does the criminal have the moral high ground? Because these states are evil. Then we have West Virginia. Somebody, let's say you're on your property. It's five acres or whatever.
Starting point is 01:00:05 And someone with a gun steps from your property and says, I'm going to kick, bang. And they drop dead. The police show up and they say, good job. Now wait, it gets crazier than this. let's say you're out on your 100-acre property in West Virginia and you've got a gun. It's your property. And you see a person on your property walking towards you with a rifle. Legally, you can't just kill someone because they're on your property with a weapon.
Starting point is 01:00:35 It's supposed to be that you fear serious bodily harm or an imminent threat even if they're on your property. That being said, in West Virginia, it is not incumbent upon the property owner to determine. or to wait for an extreme circumstance, by simple act of a person trespassing and armed, you have a reasonable fear of death. Now, they still expect you to give a warning, but I will just say this. As it was described to me, I was told by law enforcement, please don't just shoot somebody walking off a weapon because people hunt and sometimes they make mistakes. That being said, there have been many cases where the police have responded to a shooting and there was a dead man with a weapon and a property owner with a weapon. And he
Starting point is 01:01:16 says this guy was trespassing. He raised his weapon. I feared for my life. And the officers say, case closed. Because what can you do? You can't trespass on someone's property. You were armed. There's no witnesses. There's no statements. So all they can say is the guy feared for his life. And that's the way it works. Not in Chicago. In Chicago, they're going to be like, you're going to prison for the rest of your life. Yeah, all those other states, they also don't seem to believe in private property. You know, they're very happy to seize what you've got and give it to somebody else. Florida is a pretty good place also just saying it's yeah but it's starting to turn blue well Miami but Miami is like a whole other country in our state it was only 22,000 votes that
Starting point is 01:01:55 that mayor won if we want to take the conversation back to the Republican Party like we can go back there because I have a lot of frustrations with them. Do you think the Republicans abandoned Miami? No I think that they right now there's so much in fighting even my in my state of Florida like the governor has been fighting our House of Representatives, like our House and Senate, like crazy. The things that are going on, there's like this underlying divide between people that are supporting Trump-type candidates and those that are supporting Descanus candidates. Every state, you know, Monster Liberty is in 48 states, and so I'm watching this unfold state after state. South Carolina between their Freedom Caucus and their non-freedom Caucus Republicans,
Starting point is 01:02:32 they are at war. They are divided and they are fighting and it's seeping over into all these other conservative grassroots organizations and it's dividing them. It's happened to at the most local levels. It's like, we can't have nice things. We win. Now is the time when we should be implementing all these policies and moving forward and making gains. And we are in fighting because they're so used to fighting. There's no one left to fight. And so they're turning on each other. And I'm watching it all the time, every day. And it's, I don't want to figure you with that woman. It's intimidating. Yep. Well, you know, if there's one thing that Candace Owens is doing very well, it's helping Nick Fuentes be mainstream.
Starting point is 01:03:12 Yeah. Because she's gone so insane. Nick has now become the voice of reason in calling her and Ian Carroll out. And it's actually really funny. Yeah. I actually really enjoy it. Because Nick's segments calling out
Starting point is 01:03:24 these conspiracy psychos, they're actually entertaining. They're very funny. He's a funny guy. And you were saying earlier that, what's her name, Sarah Stalker? Yeah. That it's people like her
Starting point is 01:03:34 that made someone like Nick. Yeah. I will tell you, partially, but the south side of Chicago makes someone like Nick. Sure. Sure. I mean, it's not, it's not a single issue that's made, you know, Nick into the person that he is. Um, but when your point was more that they make people, they make Nick viable by creating people that want to listen to him. Yeah. Right. Because Nick became Nick because of the, you know, his upbringing, the where he's lived, you know, all the things that,
Starting point is 01:04:00 that have happened to Nick are, or what has made Nick into the person that he is. But people that haven't had the same kind of experiences in South Side of Chicago or what have you just normal, you know, normal guys that listen to him. They're like, well, you know, I've experienced these kind of these insults because
Starting point is 01:04:19 I'm a white kid. And it doesn't have to be directed at them. Kids that hear that woman talk, they're going to say, oh, she's talking about me and she's talking about my future. And they know that they're friends, that try to go to college, they don't get into the college they want because they're a white kid or whatever, or they don't get a job because they're a white kid and they want to hire someone that's
Starting point is 01:04:44 not a white guy. These things are very, very tangible to young men. And young men already have to deal with the fact that the economy's rough. You know, it's hard to get a start. You know, young people don't have anything. It's tough to start from zero. So it's already hard for them. to have people in positions of power. And it's not just her. Those same kind of ideas are repeated all throughout the Democrat Party. So you're hearing people like AOC. You're hearing people like people, you know, members of Congress, people in the Senate,
Starting point is 01:05:17 they say the same kind of things. So it doesn't matter that this one individual said it. This is the overall narrative that you get from the left. You even hear the late night guys making jokes about, oh, I'm just a white guy. Ha, ha, ha, ha. You know, you see it in in white guy tacos. Yeah, you know, they use, exactly. Is that tuna and mayonnaise?
Starting point is 01:05:37 Yeah, you know, you see it in, what is it, in comedies and sitcoms and stuff. The father's always a dopey guy and the mother knows everything. It's the way that specifically white men are treated by society now because allegedly white men have been in positions of power. So now white men can't have nice things. It's white men's fault. It is. I'm so sick of that bullshit.
Starting point is 01:06:02 I'm sorry. No, I mean, I just had a son. If white men were in power and they decided to allow people to do all of these things, then who's to blame? Yeah, well, I think it's terrible. A lot of the people that came up with these ideas were white men. Yeah. At some point, some dude was like, you know, it's a good idea? Women should vote.
Starting point is 01:06:22 And here we are. I don't think that's the root of the problem. At some point, they said, you know what, everyone should vote. Wrong. Yeah. My answer is... Jack Fasobic. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:34 Here's the important thing. Here's the important thing. When voting was instituted, it was, you know, landowners, it was white men. And this means that most men weren't voting either. Only those who succeeded enough to be able to own property were able to vote. And so the issue isn't whether men or women can vote. I don't think we should repeal the 19th. I think we should introduce a new amendment that says, or I don't even, we actually don't even need an amendment, just the law.
Starting point is 01:06:57 upon turning 18, you sign up for selective service, male or female, and when you do, they mail you your voter ID card. Or they mail you like your registration certificate with your name, which you then bring to the DMV, and you'll get like a voter stamp on your ID or whatever that you can use to vote. And if you don't have it, you can't vote. And I'm not saying people should be drafted. I'm saying you have to at least pledge that should the country fall into a time of need, you will step up in whatever
Starting point is 01:07:29 means necessary and you have a right to vote on how that happens. They should be tests. There should be tests. You should have to actually pass a test to be able to vote. I think my solution is, while difficult, yours is way too difficult. I want it to be too difficult.
Starting point is 01:07:44 No, I'm saying you can't implement it. The idea that What is the VVAC-Ramoswamy thing? Everyone already signs up for Selective Service men anyway. There's already Democrat pressure to make women do it as well. And you could very easily be like,
Starting point is 01:07:56 oh, okay, so this is how you register to vote. Yeah, but you're just going to end up with the same situation where, like, anyone signs up for selective service. And then they're going to go ahead and be... You don't have to sign up for selective service. So what happens is when the liberal goes to some crackpot on the street and says, you want to sign up to vote, but like, hell no, I don't want to get drafted. No, I think it's a bad idea because the more brutish-looking, acting women
Starting point is 01:08:18 might want to do it. And those of us that might want to have babies and be wives don't want to be drafted. I'd rather be... 80% of women will not sign up. Now, I want a little more Starship Troopers in my voting. You have to be a citizen and there should be a test. There should be some kind of requirement to become a citizen. You can be a civilian and you can live in the country and that's fine. But don't you be a citizen to vote?
Starting point is 01:08:41 Don't you guys remember? Don't you remember when Democrats were pushing for women in the draft and all of these feminists are posting videos being like, no, no, no, no, no. And like, I don't want to be a feminist anymore. And they were like literally the feminism leaving my body. The same thing happened when it came to voting. The arguments of the women that were not to non-sufferjets or whatever.
Starting point is 01:09:02 The women that didn't think that women should vote. They're like, no, then we're going to have to be responsible. Then we're going to blah, blah, blah. They didn't want the response. This is my point. So go to an 18-year-old woman and say, would you like to vote? And they'll say, yes.
Starting point is 01:09:14 Just sign up for the draft. And they'll say, yeah, right. I see, I think that they would. You think women would sign up for the draft? Because they will, because we have a mostly, right now we have a mostly volunteer army. and because most people think the American people wouldn't
Starting point is 01:09:28 stand for a draft. I will bet you $100. I will take that bet, yeah. I will, so let's have a lot to go to Times Square. And we're going to have him walk up to random men and women. And he's going to ask them
Starting point is 01:09:43 to actually sign up for the draft and be like, will you sign up right now to be drafted? And he's going to ask men and women. And I guarantee you it's going to be. to be, but there has to be the, the, there has to be some kind of benefit for it. So the vote thing.
Starting point is 01:09:59 Five bucks. I'll give you $5 right now to sign it to be drafted. No, you have to ask them, would you sign, if it were required to sign up for selective service for the draft in order to vote, would you? And the reason I say that is because right now people think their vote is super important. They have been conned into thinking that voting is this, this amazing power. Yeah, remember rock the vote, Paris. Yeah, MTV destroyed.
Starting point is 01:10:24 So you actually think there'd be more women than men saying yes? I think that you had to have most people saying, oh, yeah, whatever, because there hasn't been a draft since Vietnam, and everybody protested against it. And no, the government's never going to draft people, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, I think that people would assume that there would not be a draft. They would assume that there won't be any kind of big, full-scale war that would require drafting people. I think you're overestimating the intelligence of the average person.
Starting point is 01:10:49 I think, no, well, I'm not saying they're intelligent. I think that they're, I think that they would just say, no, it's, always going to be a situation, the situation that we've seen, which is people don't get that. Most people are going to say, I don't want to be drafted. Even guys. I'll bring, I'll bring a hundred dollars tomorrow. I am a view that they're going to sign up. But if you're going to do that, you have to find out if they're conservative or liberal. Because if you get, if you get a hundred women, if you ask a hundred and ninety sign up or 50 sign up, yep, 60 sign up and they're all. Like you're going to, if you did that, if that got implemented, I think it would be all
Starting point is 01:11:18 liberal women that would sign up. I don't, I don't think liberal one will sign up at all. I think there's like 8% of the population that are leftist. It's probably closer to 15 these days because it's been like six years since they did this poll. And they might say yes, the women in that bracket. But most women are going to go, huh? And you're, don't you guys ever watch the whatever podcast? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:38 Where it's like, what country? I find the whatever podcast as hard to watch as watching Sarah. Brian's like, what country are you in? And they're like, Texas? Yeah, but those are not representative of the average woman in this country. They might be. Thank you. Are they? They might be. No. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:11:56 I don't know. I don't know any. I love the one where the, what's her name Felicity? She's like, name one at all. She goes, name three countries. And the lady's like, I don't want to do this. She can't name countries? She's like China, Italy, and France. And then she goes to the next woman.
Starting point is 01:12:08 And the woman goes, Canada, Italy, and France. And she's like, you can't use the same ones, picked every ones. And she's like, I don't know. There's hundreds and hundreds of countries. There's 189, I think. Yeah, 189. Is it 189? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:21 And the funny thing is Somali. on the corruption index is like 179 or something. It's like corruption. Are we going to go there now? Someone said that they were going to start investigating, actually investigating Alhan Omar about whether her she...
Starting point is 01:12:35 Yeah, Trump was been talking about it. No, so she did. Like there was a report out in the Daily Mail that said she did marry her brother and that she divorced her husband, married her brother. No, no, no. She married her brother in a Christian ceremony
Starting point is 01:12:49 because nobody thinks that counts in the Muslim community and nobody would know so they just did that and it wasn't that she married him for citizenship reasons she married him so that he could get student loans so it was corruption and fraud it was just fraud it was government loophole oh that that government money must be for me if we just lie we can have it I really hope that they do
Starting point is 01:13:12 investigate and find something and that I would love to see her lose her seat over this go to jail what you mean just get sent back to Somalia I would love that She would get her citizenship voided because the law is that if you commit immigration fraud, they can remove you. You can be naturalized. And that seems pretty fraudulent, marrying your brother in a fake ceremony so that you can get access to government services. You know, and then advocate for the government to forgive those loans. So now you're just stealing.
Starting point is 01:13:45 What the hell's that? Love it. Yeah, but she's trying to stop Morning Glory milking farm. We got to talk about this. And I'm just going to default to Brett, because I have. I have no idea what's going on, but this is a huge story. This is a Kellan's story. This is, uh, you don't know.
Starting point is 01:13:55 Anybody hear sports? This is, uh, this is apparently a really crazy story. It's blowing up. I read the story. Fired Michigan coach, Sharon Moore was suicidal after cops were called to his executive assistant's apartment. So my understanding is that he was like, he was cheating. He was like an affair.
Starting point is 01:14:08 Yeah. And then it, with his exec assist. Yeah. And then, uh, let's just, let's just, I'm just talking her. This is a knife to his own. This is, held a knife to his own flow. Yeah. This is, this is like the real true crime.
Starting point is 01:14:20 Brie kids. Broking to some. else's house to threaten his life. Okay, let me read it. Let me read it. Jerome Moore, one of the biggest names in college football threw away his 30 million dollar coaching career in his freedom. After getting caught in an avic affair with a subordinate and then was arrested in the aftermath. Within the span of a few hours on Wednesday, Moore, 39, was fired as the University of Michigan's head football coach and arrested on suspicion of assaulting a woman at the home of Paige Shiver, 32, his executive assistant. This is crazy. The shocking news came just days after Moore had spoken with reporters as the number 18 ranked Wolverines began to prepare for the Citrus Bowl later this month, and it caught the college football world by surprise.
Starting point is 01:14:56 Moore was booked into the Washington County Jail Wednesday after a female caller reported he was armed with a knife and had been stalking her for months, according to police dispatcher audio obtained by the post. Mail at the location is attacking her, said he's been stalking her for months. A male voice in the recording can be heard saying in the audio, crazy. The audio also indicated more threatened to harm himself, kill himself. during the alleged exchange, after which he fled on foot and was arrested. The dispatcher said the caller reported Moore had brandished a knife before throwing down the open and running away. It's going to be at the Wellchurch, 211 Willis Road, suicidal, driving a black Chevy Tahoe blacked out. The call came from Shivers Ann Arbor address, according to public records, that it was not immediately clear if she was the victim.
Starting point is 01:15:43 So what is this like? What is, what? crazy crazy the idea that he killed a knife to his own throat I heard that's crazy 30 million dollar career
Starting point is 01:15:57 just down the road Yeah over over what like lust Yeah Man Lust is a takedown thing That's a takedown thing for sure It's a takedown thing for sure So this story is it's belonging up to the point
Starting point is 01:16:10 Where I even someone who knows nothing about college football It's on my radar and I'm seeing people talking about it Betting sites are getting in on this They are getting in on it I'm sure they are. Oh, yeah. I think it's actually because this is a high profile, like, drama, true crime affair. It's very salacious.
Starting point is 01:16:27 And I'm totally at a loss for anything about college football or whatever. But we need, we need Chuck in here. Yeah, where is he? Is he here? He can come and explain to us. Callan's here. Callan can come and run over here and tell what's what's going on. UM head football coach Ron Moore has been terminated.
Starting point is 01:16:43 Following university investigation, credible evidence was found that coach Moore engaged in an inappropriate relationship with a staff member. This conduct constitutes a clear violation of university policy. So is that really all he's in trouble for? Like he got caught having an affair? But was the woman that he was having an affair with, like breaking up with him? So that's his executive assistant. It's crazy to me that $30 million and you throw it away over something.
Starting point is 01:17:08 Like I said, it is a tale as old as time that men in positions of power, they just have a hard time saying no to things like this. Yeah. Like when Tiger Woods kept getting in trouble for banging all those women. And then South Park made that episode where they were like, What is causing this? Wealthy, successful men to want to have sex with so many different women. Shocker.
Starting point is 01:17:33 I can't quite figure it out. So apparently, let's see. What is this? Dispatch audio local reports suggest police were called after concerns about his behavior. He threatened to kill himself. but I don't understand why why did he threaten to kill himself yeah
Starting point is 01:17:50 I'd like to know the timeline I'd like to know the timeline like of this is like is this already after he lost his contract he feels like he's got nothing left to lose I'm sure he's got some money in the bank anyways but
Starting point is 01:18:02 like a $30 million contract how many years was that for I don't know that's crazy people get paid too much for this stuff yeah I mean he was so he was cheating on his he was having affairs an affair
Starting point is 01:18:14 so he was cheating on his existing girlfriend and the whole like he had a mental breakdown and was gonna... I think he had a wife and kids. Oh, well, there you go, even worse. So yeah, he had a mental break then
Starting point is 01:18:24 he's like, I'll kill myself because he's crazy. Yeah. Man. Well, you know, I'm kind of... It's kind of messed up, but maybe this will be a distraction for the people.
Starting point is 01:18:34 I was saying for a while, I said this recently. When I was younger, all anybody cared about was sports. And I was kind of pissed because all of this big political stuff was happening. And I thought,
Starting point is 01:18:44 why can't people just care about the important things that are going on? Why don't they care? Now I understand. Now I'm begging these people involved in politics to just go away and shut up because they have no idea what they're talking about. So it's, you know, how do we bring back sports? I mean, sports are still very, very popular, despite what people say there's a reason why these... Hobby horsing? Yeah. You and I are the only ones who have probably seen those videos. If you're on here, guys, go look for the hobby horse. Who hobby horsing is? Libby. Isn't that where you pretend to be riding a horse? but you just have a stick with a fake horse set on it?
Starting point is 01:19:16 Just a broomstick with a... Do you know that they also do like hobby dog now? No. Yes, yes, yes, with a leash. This is like got a shape at the end. And they like walk the dog and then they pause and they pretend to pet it. We stopped throwing kids in lockers. And ever since then, it's been downhill.
Starting point is 01:19:33 Yes. Oh, competitive hobby. Did you know there's a competitive sport of hobby horse riding? You know, we've shown some video over the past couple of years. This is growing in popularity just this past June. Finland hosted its annual hobby horse championships. I want to put these people in prison. The stupidness.
Starting point is 01:19:52 They're crying. Oh my goodness. Micah Zanstra, who also just organized a first of its kind of hobby horse riding You know my favorite, you know my favorite thing though is the hobby horse dressage. They go like this. They go like this. I'm not kidding.
Starting point is 01:20:07 This thing, how would you get started in this? You know, I saw somebody at another horse event. Did they name him? hobby horse and I've always loved horses and I've ridden real horses but I've never been able to have a horse of my own that's what it is it's wealth inequality so I saw somebody because they can't afford it and I asked them where they got it they said that
Starting point is 01:20:25 they made it and that's kind of how I started the New England Patriots are 11 and 2 I just kind of ride in the parks I you know I live in I live in a condo so it's kind of hard to ride in the condo so I will take my this is really sad you have to have really high steps
Starting point is 01:20:40 they're like I want to see more videos of it I want to see more hobby horsing. I feel like you're punishing me tonight. Hey, I looked up a little more story on your coach here. You wanted to know how that went? I want to watch hobby horsing. No. No.
Starting point is 01:20:58 The scandal began to spiral out of control. Look at this guy. Go on. He was told to distance himself from her because there was an investigation because she got a raise from $45,000 to $90,000 without a change in job title. He gave her a raise. And so there was an investigation. They said, distance yourself, and then he fired her.
Starting point is 01:21:15 So she got mad, and she went down, and she told them, we've been having an affair and all the things. And that's when it's spot. How can you get a $30 million contract and not see that coming when things go wrong? Is it just ego? Of course it is. I think these people should be arrested. The hobby horse people? I think we need to invade Germany.
Starting point is 01:21:33 The parents should be arrested. I think this is as good a reason as any to invade Germany, frankly. Look at this. Oh, my gosh. Tell me we're not doing that in the United States. Oh, yeah. No, no, no, no. This says Germany.
Starting point is 01:21:44 That said Deutsche Land or something up there. Oh, my goodness. And you notice. Did you see? That lady was like 50. You notice. What the hell? It's almost all women.
Starting point is 01:21:55 And people are trying to convince me that we, well, okay. Oh, no, it's not. Oh, no, I said almost all. I'm well aware of this young German guy. And they just have this stick between their legs. It looks ridiculous. You know that kids need. I mean, it looks sexual is what it looks like.
Starting point is 01:22:08 It looks. No, these little toys. A little weird. These, okay. You know, here's the pitch. If you hobby horse, you can't vote, okay? That's okay. All right.
Starting point is 01:22:17 I'm okay with that. I think we're all on board with that one. I think we might be able to take a vote here and it might be a nice. There was a viral video of this woman and she's like panting and on the ground hyperventile like. And she's drenched in sweat. And she was like to everybody who says hobby horse, it isn't a real sport. Those are just made to make you angry. Like I see those sometimes.
Starting point is 01:22:39 It's like I get off X because it pisses me off. and then I go on Instagram and that's there and I'm just like, everything's out to get me, bro. Didn't we show this to Hotep? Maybe. Like, like ages ago? No, no, he was here recently. I could have sworn he was like, nah, that ain't real.
Starting point is 01:22:55 And he was like, y'all troll. See, but this is one of those things where despite what Phil said earlier, they're going to look and be like, white people. Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's true. They're going to say that. They are all white.
Starting point is 01:23:06 But, yeah, I mean, look, I can deal with that a whole lot more than like white men are evil. Yeah. You know, if you want to be like white people, that's fine, fine. Because most likely only white people are going to come up with this kind of beat. Oh, check this out. Well, no. One day they're going to be talking about equity and hobby horsing.
Starting point is 01:23:20 Meet the LeBron James of Hobby Horse. You know what they're like, you know what they're saying, right? Oh, my gosh. Oh, this is so sad. What? I don't understand what they're like impressed by. You know what they're saying, right?
Starting point is 01:23:38 They're like, people run track. What's the difference? What are they impressed by? She was pulling the stick up. Yeah. So it's form? I can't. I really like when they're like this.
Starting point is 01:23:49 It's got a little knob on the end. I'm done. I can't watch it anymore. I will look this way. It's weird. It's not, no. It's a shame, really. Dress.
Starting point is 01:24:04 I mean, these are good jumps. I'm impressed. That's a big jump. Yeah. Is that what they're getting? Yeah. That's like four feet or something. How do they score these?
Starting point is 01:24:10 What do they score on? IQ. And it starts at 50. So after you do the jump, you got to figure out which block goes in which shaped hole. And then they assess your score. The assumption is all of them are developmentally disabled. Do you think they fall sometimes and break the horse? That's why the stick isn't like a full-long, you know, like, full-blowers or whatever.
Starting point is 01:24:37 I swear there's probably a chat being like, oh, hobby horse, stop making fun of me. That's because you're not allowed to not like anything now. You're not allowed to make fun of anything. We like lose 3,000 paying members and they were like, we're all hobby horses and whatever and you're diminishing us. I think this is honestly like the precursor to furies. I was going to, no, I was going to say it's like on the road to furries, this is a better alternative. At least they're getting some physical activity. I think this is the internet.
Starting point is 01:25:04 So what I think happens is if you go back far enough in time, people are buying kids these things. and the five-year-old pretends like he's not a horse, and then they forget about it. Some of these kids really loved running around and pretending like they're riding a horse. However, as you get older, no one's really walking around with these things, nobody's meeting up for it,
Starting point is 01:25:23 it's not socially acceptable, it falls away. Then the internet comes. Someone creates a forum talking about how they love hobby horses. And then you feel like you're part of it, yeah. Then people start to trickle into this community, and it allows them to coalesce what would normally be cast into the shadows is now out in the open for All to See. See, I want to find, like, the Republican who gets shunned by this community because it's all leftists.
Starting point is 01:25:46 Like, there's got to be at least one, right? There might be. I remember when I was in third grade, and I didn't have any friends. And Mindy and Sarah used to play horses, and they would, like, put their hands on the ground and then stand on their legs so that their legs were, like, straight. And they would run around pretending to be horses. And they were like, do you want to play horses with us? And I was like, okay.
Starting point is 01:26:08 and I didn't have any friends, right? And so I played horses with them one day. And I was like, it's better not having friends. I'm never doing that again. So, Cullen said that ESPN, one of their top people, is claiming it's a racism or something. And this story about Sharon Moore, only fans model claims ex-Michigan football coach Sharon Moore slid into her DMs, as it's revealed he attended a ditty party. Now I'm kind of understanding why this story is a lot bigger. See, I don't pay attention to college sports or anything like that.
Starting point is 01:26:40 I might, you know, regular football I passively will hear about and be like, oh, okay, you know, maybe if it's like something local. And then the Super Bowl is always fun. But Diddy party, I recognize. And OnlyFans and white supremacy and all those things. So now I can see this is sort of hitting all the marks in the culture war. And now, oh, okay, all right, I get it. Basically, it's a choose your own adventure of how to be offended. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:07 I mean, I feel like this is one of those stories, unfortunately. It's going to disappear or no. It doesn't feel like it's all that big to me. This? It's actually, I think, one of the biggest stories on the... I think it's pretty big.
Starting point is 01:27:15 Yeah, that's huge. Yeah, it's huge. Like, I feel like this will come and go. Like, I feel like this will come and go. This story had big traffic traffic for everybody today. Yeah, I mean, the reason I brought it up is because I don't understand. Like, the story's massive. It was big, like, I'm not a sports guy and it was big enough to hide people asking me about it.
Starting point is 01:27:29 Like, like, I thought that was going to be what was true with, like, the gambling. Like, the athletes getting caught gambling. gambling. Because I feel like that has bigger implications for the country. Like if you want to talk about the idea of elections, we need to know that elections are fair. Well, if you want to talk about all of the people who are into politics, who, you know, they've sublimated their team sport mentality that came from watching athletics, if you can't even believe that the sports are watching aren't being rigged in some way, then that has massive implications for the country. Let me pull up this story and tell you about fake news. Let me explain to y'all fake news.
Starting point is 01:28:02 this is Fox News. Trump says he will think about eliminating tax on gambling winnings. Fake news, right? Here's the fake news. I say it again. A bunch of news outlets are reporting that Donald Trump wants to eliminate taxes on gambling winnings that he's thinking about it. What actually happened?
Starting point is 01:28:18 A random reporter asked him and it was like, I don't know, no one's talked about it. We'll see, I guess. And then they reported Trump is going to think about eliminating tax on gambling. What he said was, we got no tax on tips, got no tax on overtime. Maybe there'll be no tax on gambling. But they asked him. He didn't comment to them and said, you know what I'm thinking about? Eliminating the tax on gambling winnings.
Starting point is 01:28:36 This is part of that whole thing where journalists instead of trying to report news or always trying to make news. And they did. And now everyone's going, oh, oh, he's going to lose. You know, I doubt he will. Yeah, I liked the thing better when he said eliminate income tax. Yeah. I was like, yeah, I'm super into that one. That would be awesome.
Starting point is 01:28:56 Look at this. This is really funny. When asked on Air Force One, if he would potentially nix the tax on gambling, he said, we have no tax on tips, we have no tax on Social Security, we've got no tax on overtime, no tax on gambling winnings, I don't know, I'm going to have to think about that. And now they're all reporting that he's thinking about it. This is how fake news operates.
Starting point is 01:29:14 It's a good headline. It'd be nice to you know if I was thinking about it. All that really matters is the headline. But why, I mean. Is Trump gamble? He gambler? Because it makes him look bad. I bet he puts money on golf now and then, you know?
Starting point is 01:29:25 I think so. Why not? Like when he's playing? Yeah, 50-5. Always bets on himself? Why not? And as he does, he gives him a stern look. And then he just wins every time.
Starting point is 01:29:35 He rose always bet on himself. Remember when he posted how he got a hole in one? Yeah. Like in his first term. Yeah. Just like completely irrelevant to anything. He was like, I just want to let everybody know I'm the president. I got a hole in one.
Starting point is 01:29:43 It's like, okay. It is pretty baller. Of course it is. I actually, I got to say, I know it's goofy, but I like seeing the president out there golf. And, and, you know, I appreciate that he takes the exercise time and that he's passionate about something, that he's got this as a hobby. I think it's good. I think it's kind of cool.
Starting point is 01:30:01 I think it's cool that his granddaughter is like awesome at golf, Kai Trump. I always win Top Golf. I love Top Golf. I always win. I think they just sold it. Strategy. I think they sold it.
Starting point is 01:30:12 Here's the secret. I don't know. Probably private equity. I'm going to teach you guys how to win at Top Golf every time. So here's what happens. Every time we go, everybody always gets the ball, and they whack it as hard as they can,
Starting point is 01:30:24 and it flies up in the distance, and just lands in a random spot, and they get no points. I got like 2,000 points. You got to aim for the thingies. Well, if you're good enough, you know what I do, I aim for the one right in front. That little red one.
Starting point is 01:30:34 A little red one. Because I can't hit, I can't swing a club for the life of me. And I get it in every time. And you don't get that many points, but you're okay. And with people aiming far down, they keep missing.
Starting point is 01:30:46 But here's the trick. On the second round, the bonuses appear exactly where your shots were going. And then you get like 40,000 points for every, every red because you're bouncing in the purples. So I end up with like 200K points and everyone else has got like 120
Starting point is 01:31:02 and that's the secret. Now y'all can win at Top Golf. Awesome. And then you can post on truth about how good a golf you are. I've gotten stronger over the past year because I started lifting weights like a year ago. And so now I can hit the yellows. Oh, the yellow one. Yeah. Yeah. I feel so good
Starting point is 01:31:18 about myself so I'm not going to let you make me. Top Golf is pretty awesome though. Yeah. I like Top Golf. I think it's really fun. Get French fries. You bring you a little snack. Yeah. Little snacks. Chilling. They have these little donut holes and they bring you like this weird syringe with chocolate
Starting point is 01:31:32 in it and you like squirt them into the donut holes. It's weird. Like you could just give me donut holes with chocolate inside but no, you're making me do this thing. You can put it on top. It's weird. Is that really? I thought you. You control your chocolate intake.
Starting point is 01:31:45 Right. Because when you make cupcakes and you make like cupcakes and you make like cupcakes cupcakes with cream inside, you have to like jam it in there and squirt the filling on the inside of the cupcakes before you frost. I don't get it. I don't, I don't, I don't, why? You don't like a cream-filled cupcake? Just put it on top of it.
Starting point is 01:31:59 You don't like hostess? You don't like hostess? What's the matter with you? An American? Come on. Tasty cake does the same thing. It's all nasty. They got the little stuff inside.
Starting point is 01:32:06 RFC is giving you a side eye right now. It's what? Yeah, exactly. RFC is giving you a side eye right now. Doesn't all that stuff have propylene glycol in it? I don't eat it. I just make cupcakes at home and that's how I know you have to like squirt the cream on the inside. I'm not a big cake fan.
Starting point is 01:32:21 I like cake. No. Yeah. I like cake. I like cookies. All the things. Pie is great, too. I mean, we have to only like one kind of dessert.
Starting point is 01:32:31 What the hell? Like, wait a minute. Why are we choosing? What's going on? Have it all. No, I don't want to eat cake. Not interested. Pie.
Starting point is 01:32:40 Yeah, just pie. It's just spongy weirdness. Pie has, like, fruit. It has goodness. It has maybe nuts on it. Yeah. It's great. Krusty flake.
Starting point is 01:32:49 Like, you got all these different textures. It's pie's good. And then you, you, you, you, I make this great strawberry cake with strawberry butter cream. Forking delicious. Our female viewership is skyrocketing right now. It's like the numbers,
Starting point is 01:33:02 I'm kidding. The numbers are just going up. They're like, tell me more about the pastries you are baking. Listen. I will. I'm happy to,
Starting point is 01:33:08 when I was pregnant, I decided I wanted to be one of those moms that bakes, you know? And so I learned how to bake. And now I make a real nice cake. I make a whole bunch of good stuff. I can make one of each thing.
Starting point is 01:33:21 I can't make two different kinds of cakes. I can make one kind of cake. My wife is, my wife loves to bake. Yeah. More than anything. See? She knows. Have you ever made a cronut?
Starting point is 01:33:30 No, I can't do that. This whole, like, last couple of months. I've always wanted to eat one, but I've never had it. I was saying to my wife's like, I want to lose some weight. And she's like, I bake these brownies. That's a good way. And I'm like, you're sabotaging me, bro. I just bought.
Starting point is 01:33:44 Bro? Did you call your wife, bro? Sometimes. I just bought cocoa yesterday at the grocery store so I could make brownies because my kid likes brownies and I don't like to buy the box, you know? So, anyways are great. Very Christmas. Brownies are coming.
Starting point is 01:33:58 I'm doing the Christmas cookies on Saturday. Oh, it's dozens and dozens and dozens all day long. Is it just sugar cookies with like icing on them? No, I actually don't make any sugar cookies. I make anise cookies. That's the Italian traditional. Oh, they're so good. And Italian dry color cookies, the flag cookies with the three colors, with chocolate around them.
Starting point is 01:34:15 Actually, my goal in life is I'm doing all of this because I do intend to run for office at some point. And when I become president. Is that news? Are we breaking news? Oh, yes, yes. So at some point, I will use all power I've acquired to run for office. And once president, I will usurp constitutional authority. I like that you're just running for president.
Starting point is 01:34:35 Well, of course, because first I have to be president, then I can usurp all constitutional authority and make myself Supreme Chancellor so that I can make anus, fennel, feline, heroin. All my favorites. Burn it. Burn it. All my favorite. Earn it all. Terrible. That's right.
Starting point is 01:34:51 Libby's going to lead the army. Yes. She's going to be wearing, like. I'm going to get everyone to sign up for the draft based on that. Is there anyone with me that loves those things? I don't like cilantro. Possession of cilantro is a capital offense. I agree.
Starting point is 01:35:05 Capital of it. I guess absolutely belong here. I don't even need, like, searching seizure laws don't even apply. If they have even a whiff of it, they're like. There's dogs. Open the trunk. They open it and there's like a bunch of pot and I'm like, no, it's fine. You're free to go.
Starting point is 01:35:17 And then one guy's eating a taco, get them. The dogs just jump on them. I was driving through Southern California last week. and we were dry, and it was dark, and just reeked of weed. And then when we saw it in daylight the next day, it was like, because I was, it was going to sound like I'm bragging, so I'm just going to go for it. I was with Pete Higgs'est motorcade, shutting down the 405 and going to check out autonomous weapons factories and the Reagan Library, the Reagan National Defense Forum.
Starting point is 01:35:45 And it was kind of cool. But anyway, then in daylight it was. It was just fields of weed. It was like more weed than you could conceive of at once. How California. It was so California. You know, I'm going to send, when I'm Chancellor, there's going to be dudes in suits with flamethrowers, and they're going to walk through those fields with the flamethrowers off until they get
Starting point is 01:36:02 to the cilantro and then just torch the cilantro. Then you're going to create a black market for cilantro that's going to just... Then if you're going to ban Annis, I can't vote for you. Annis is, you know, you don't get to vote. I'm going to be Supreme Chancellor, right? I said president first, and then you were going to insert the power. The first thing I'm going to do is I'm going to talk about how great cilantro is. And I'm going to be like, I will be the president.
Starting point is 01:36:21 And then as soon as people vote from. me, I'm going to be like, ha-ha, I don't take the mask off. And then I'm going to ban, oh, Annis is out. Have you ever had a Rocky? No, what is that? Rocky, you mean like the Creighton, like, Creighton from Crete? There's this like
Starting point is 01:36:36 Crete moonshine called Rocky. It's a, I think it's Turkish. Whatever it is, it's nasty. It's a drink. It sort of tastes like black licorice. Also, it burns. Yep. I can't believe you don't know about it because you'll definitely want one. And I was, I was in
Starting point is 01:36:52 Turkey. So a Rocky is an alcoholic beverage made from twice distilled grape pumice and flavored with anise seed. I don't drink. I'll never get to try it. I'll never get to try it. And so I was in Turkey and
Starting point is 01:37:08 I was with the guys from Vice and they were like, you gotta have a Rocky Tim while you're in Turkey. And I was like, what is it? And they're like, it's like licorice. And I said, that's disgusting. It's anise and I will destroy it. And they're like, no, you have to drink it. And And it's very much like when the guys who own the company are saying, drink it.
Starting point is 01:37:26 You're like, all right, I'll drink it. It is disgusting. They made me drink it too. My uncle and my aunt. They were like, you have to have this in Crete. I did not like it. I bet it's delicious. All right, all right.
Starting point is 01:37:38 We're going to go to your Rumble rants and super chats, my friend. So smash the like button. Share the show with everyone, you know. We're going to be over at rumble.com slash Timcast, IRL at 10 for the uncensored portion of the show. For now, we got a great sponsor for you. It is Frontline 21. All right, man, let's get real for a second. There's lots of noise out there about masculinity.
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Starting point is 01:39:16 I don't talk like this. You need to be a man. All right. Shane H. Wilder says, hey, Tim, is the new Christmas song also going to be on Spotify or direct MP3 slash Flack download for those of us who don't use Apple Music? I'm going to go ahead and assume the answer is yes. Carter is, he would know better than I, but it should be on every platform. And this is, this is Silent Night, new song, Trash House Records. And did he put it up yet?
Starting point is 01:39:45 What's up now? It's what? Trashhouse Christmas.com. Well, yeah, I think I saw it on Instagram. No, I spelled wrong. Carter mentioned it earlier on. Maybe it's, wait. Oh, there we go.
Starting point is 01:40:04 We got it. Alex Bianca Silent Night Single is available. If you go to the website, it's on Apple Music. I think you can just go to any platform and probably find this and check it out. We're working with new artists with Trash House Records, our record label. Very excited. But let's grab your rants and chats. We'll continue.
Starting point is 01:40:23 James Smith politics says Erica and TPSA should file a defamation lawsuit against Candace Owens. I'm willing to bet that will happen. I think it will happen. Yeah. Black Hills Ranch says I'm not mad at Tim. I'm a supporter. Just a simple rancher. Isaiah 118, come now.
Starting point is 01:40:40 Let us reason together, says the Lord. With that, I accept your debate challenge. How would you like to proceed? Are you saying my debate about the limits of God? I don't know how I would ever have that debate. We did a debate on this a couple times already. And the issue is that's literally just, what do you believe? And so if you believe that God is the logos, I'm not telling you you're wrong.
Starting point is 01:41:05 I'm saying, I don't believe it. The question is, it's not so much a debate, but you trying to convince me that I am wrong, but I don't think you can. I don't think I can convince you you are wrong either because we both just simply believe different things about God. But usually in those debates, it's not about convincing you, right? It's about convincing somebody who might be watching, perhaps. Indeed. You ever see that movie? It's a thank you for smoking.
Starting point is 01:41:27 That really great scene where it's a, what's his face? Who's the actor? Aaron Eckhart. And he's with his son and he's like, because he's a smoking PR guy or whatever. And then he's teaching his kid how to win a debate. And he says, let's say we're debating ice cream. And you love chocolate. And I love vanilla.
Starting point is 01:41:48 if I if if so someone asks you you like chocolate what do you say he says chocolate is the best and then he responds with oh so you think chocolate is the end all be all chocolate's the best and he goes yes I do and he says then he goes well I believe in freedom in liberty and I think we should have choices and I think if people want vanilla or chocolate and then the kid goes but that's not we're talking about and he goes no it's what I'm talking about and then the kid's like but you didn't argue that vanilla is better and it's like I don't have to all I have to do is argue that you are wrong and then the kid says but that's not convincing me and he goes I'm not to convince you. I'm trying to convince them. Yeah, that's how you, thank you. And then, and the next scene is they're both eating vanilla ice cream. That's a great movie. All right, let's see. Brett Zeppelin says, Brett Dassifig is way sexier than Brett Cooper. I'm a chick. It's okay, Brett. Actually, I think I can pull this up. It's really funny. I was just, I was losing it this morning because of how funny it was. Let me see if,
Starting point is 01:42:44 yeah, here we go. I think I can get it. Let's see. I was actually thinking about doing a video for my at Tim Pool channel, but I was just didn't have time. I wrote List to the staff of Timcast. It says Timcast found an operator by Timpools, a media company focused on podcasts like Timcast. IRL, the coach world podcast based on available sources. The course staff includes host producers and key operational roles, know that Timcast is small independent operation. So the team is not exhaustive and may evolve. Here's a compiled list of confirmed staff members.
Starting point is 01:43:10 Tim Pool, founder, CEO and host. Phil McGraw. Host, co-host, regular. Ian Crossland Brett Cooper Pop Culture Crisis I'll take it Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
Starting point is 01:43:21 Alad Eliahu Serge Dupria Surge.com Cassandra Fairbanks Charles last name not specified See but that's real power
Starting point is 01:43:32 If they don't know your last name They can't get to you Yep And then I said Wow Dr. Phil is on Timcast No the famous Dr. Phil McGraw isn't a regular on Timcast though he's been
Starting point is 01:43:43 in episodes like when Tim Poole's team discussed Dr. Phil calling out child trafficking issues to border policy that say he does have a co-host named Phil who has appeared frequently on Timcast, IRL, along with Tim Poole, Ian Croslin and others. He's been in episodes, blah, blah, blah, blah. I said, Dr. Phil is Phil McGrath. Yes, that's correct. Dr. Phil is indeed Philip Calvin McRaw. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 01:44:04 And I said, and Phil McGraw is on Timcast. No, Phil McGrath is not a host co-host. And then I said, Brett Cooper is on Timcast. It's amazing. Yes, Brett Cooper is indeed a regular. co-host on Tim Kestirel, and it's been an awesome addition to the lineup. She's popped up on episodes throughout 2025, bringing her sharp takes on pop culture, Gen Z trends, and conservative commentary to the mix alongside Tim Poole, Phil, and others like Raymond or Ian. It's the pop comments
Starting point is 01:44:28 in a culture crisis. Listen to this. For instance, in a recent December 2025 episode, Tim, Phil, Brett, and Raymond teamed up with guest Naomi Sight to break down the J6 pipe bomber arrest, why young folks are ditching America for socialism vibes, and even the wild story of people trolling Tim Walts's house. Another one from late 2025 had her joining Tim, Phil and Tate with the raw egg nationalist at Baby Gravy 9
Starting point is 01:44:53 to host viral drunk raccoon memes. TPSA drama with Candace Owens and some hilarious unhinged WNBA betting scandals. She's not full-time staff. And I said, so cool she can be in West Virginia every night while living in Nashville.
Starting point is 01:45:07 I don't know what's better. Does that mean that I'm a handsome woman or that I look young for my age? I said she must have a private Jet for that. Pop Culture Crisis is also filmed in West Virginia. Hot. No private jet needed. And then it said, teleport. For her Timcast, IRL spots, it's 100% remote. It said these days, the Brett Cooper show launched independently after leaving the DailyWires comment section. It said that she was on the show, her old gig from 21 to 24, co-hosted with
Starting point is 01:45:33 Mary Morgan under Timcast Media, was actually filmed in Frederick Maryland, specifically the castle. This is crazy wrong. History is cooked, man. People are going to read this stuff and think all it's true. I wrote this. Oh yeah, I remember that. It was after she and Mary got to that fight over who got to feed the chickens in Chicken City. Ha ha, okay, see what you're doing here. Blah, you get the point. Dude, Grock would not let it go. The whole way, it's just saying yes, Brett Cooper is on
Starting point is 01:45:59 Timcast, IRL. And then even when I said, it's like, how does she get here? It's like she does remote. I said Timcast has never had remote guests. And it's like, you're right. But then how did she get here? And it's like, it's easy because it's only twice a week. It's just making things up. Can we talk about how AI is being introduced into edge of the public education system at a dramatic pace? And this, I mean, look at this.
Starting point is 01:46:24 You're an adult. You're trying to fight with it. You're not getting accurate information. Imagine this being introduced to children. It is. And teachers are creating assignments with chat GPT. And then the students are doing the assignment with chat GPT. And then the teachers are grading the assignment with chat GPT.
Starting point is 01:46:40 So basically both are just sitting there, staying with the wall, drooling. like zombies. My son's English teacher recently had them do an essay and he required that it be turned in written on paper. Thank you. Thank you teacher. I have a solution for that. So how old is your son? Okay, I don't know if you want to say. I was going to say. Okay. So if you're listening, make the write the report through chat, GPT, and then go to Home Depot and go, Trabo. Trobeho. Traboe. And then hold it up. No, no. He wrote it out and he did a good job. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:47:16 I can't write. Yeah, this was hard to read. We had to work through it. We had this really funny thing happen at Skate Night. Because they stopped teaching kids how to write also, like by hand. So I don't ever write anything because I'm on a computer the whole time, all the time. And where this funny thing happened at our Skate Night contest last time where my wife is like, can you handle the checks? And I was like, yeah, it's fine.
Starting point is 01:47:38 I'll like, you know, I'll get Cody to do it. Because my handwriting is miserable. I have a brain thing where when I write I mix between uppercase and lowercase like SpongeBob, like the SpongeBob meme. I thought it was just that men did that. Maybe. Okay. And so the funny thing is, so what ends up happening is we do the event and then we got to pay out for the prizes and stuff.
Starting point is 01:48:00 And I'm like, hey, Cody, all right, I'm going to tell you what to write because you got better handwriting them. And he's like, okay. And then neither of us actually knew how to properly write the check. So we did them wrong. And then when my wife showed up, she was like, what are you doing? And I was like, what do you mean? We're writing checks. She went, oh my God, and she grabbed him.
Starting point is 01:48:17 She wrote void and then ripped them. Are you a product of the public school system? No. Who didn't teach you to write a check? It's because I haven't written a, I've never written a business check. And so there's slight things you have to do on it, the way you write it out so they can't be manipulated after the fact. And then the receipt stuff you have to write. So we didn't, neither of us knew how to do that.
Starting point is 01:48:40 More importantly, I can't write. You know what I mean? But don't worry. I did go to public school for a few years and then I dropped out of high school when I was 14. Really? You don't have a high school diploma? No. Yeah, intentionally. Amazing. No GED, no interest in amazing. Did you know this? I did know this. Yeah. It is a waste of time. But, you know, the thing is... I wasted so much time in education. I got my high school diploma only because I was the first in my family. No one else had. And so they were like, you were going to be the first. You were going to do it.
Starting point is 01:49:11 What did I need it for? What did I need it for? What did anyone needed for? I only needed it so then I could apply to college. That's not true. Really? You didn't need to have a high school diploma? I mean, they asked for your transcripts and you have to have taken the classes.
Starting point is 01:49:25 Community colleges only require you be 18 years old. Okay. So what I did was, I, so I was homeschooled before starting grade school. So, you know, my brother, my sister and I were actually fairly ahead of the rest of the kids. kids. School largely tried to be a waste of time because it punishes you if you are, if you have good reading comprehension. So I was in, you know, eighth grade already understanding negatives, multiplying, dividing. In kindergarten, I understood division and multiplication. And, you know, the kids weren't learning that until like a year or two later. So I was constantly
Starting point is 01:50:01 punished for just always being ahead and being able to do math in my head. So it very much was a very, It was a very negative experience. I absolutely hated it. And so my family said that computers and the Internet since I was a little kid. It was always reading the news. So I'm reading tons of things online, reading encyclopedia entries and eventually like Wikipedia stuff. So what I did was when I turned 18, I went and applied to College of DuPage. And I took a few classes for one quarter.
Starting point is 01:50:33 It was theater acting, which sucked, criminal justice, and yoga. The yoga class was literally just doing yoga and you pay them to do it. And I think I would do that one time and then I was like, this is dumb. Actually, I wanted to do kickboxing and then I found out that it was just women punching the air. And I was like, that's not what I wanted to take. So I left. And then after one quarter, and I think it cost $550, I now had some college on my resume. So when I applied at jobs that required a high school diploma, I just said my highest level of education is some college and you're good to go.
Starting point is 01:51:04 I like that, outsmarting the system as a whole. I do not disagree. My son is 17. He's a senior and he is, he's miserable. He has to only be there two hours a day. He's taking a couple community college classes, dual enrolling. And even though it's no challenging, not challenging to him at all, he's got a ways of time. He's bored out of his mind. And it's very unfortunate. Indeed. Let's grab a few, some more. We've got, let's see, Joshua French as a citizen of Utah County, I hope I am on the jury. That will disqualify you on the spot. Yeah. Yeah. They're going to ask you if you've watched you. media about it, if you've made comments about it, and you're going to say yes. And then they're going to say, you may leave. Sorry. All right, let's see. Concrete Haiti says, Tim, please, the love of God, stop giving Candace all this free press.
Starting point is 01:51:50 You're only increasing her influences and spreading her message. Address the idiocy without naming her or giving her airtime. Incorrect. There's a mistake people make because they watched a movie sometime. Have you ever heard the phrase, Tina or Libby? There's no such thing as bad press. Yes. Of course. I have a degree in communications.
Starting point is 01:52:08 Indeed. And do you think it's true? Oh, it's absolutely true. Then why don't you advise a client to go fuck a pig in the middle of Times Square and tell me if the press is good for them or not? Well, you don't want to do stupid things to create bad press. But as someone who runs an organization that has had majority bad press, but it's skyrocketed us on the national scene. Like, we always use it for our benefit. But the point is when they say there's no such thing as bad press. There absolutely is.
Starting point is 01:52:37 And so right now, for the longest time, everybody knew what Candace was saying and nobody was speaking out against her. Slowly, as she increased her level of unhingy, I increased the level of critique until finally she said, she called Turning Point a Godforsaken organization that betrayed Charlie Kirk
Starting point is 01:52:56 and to pull your donations from it, as well as the lie about taking off, you know, oh, they're coming to kill me and that's why I'm leaving. And it's just, She crossed that line. She went too far. And now people are finally starting to come out in mass and call her out. The idea that you ignore someone who's getting a hundred plus thousand concurrent viewers and it goes away as the stupidest thing ever. She is fundamentally wokeifying people. I don't want to say the right because I don't want to play it stupid woke right game. It's not the right. The young Turks are watching her content. Anna Kasparians talking about how she likes Candace. It is this weird, largely female cohort that is becoming increasingly insane. So yes, people need to call her out and ridicule her for being insane, explain why she's lying.
Starting point is 01:53:46 So that way, when I talk to people who are like, well, I don't actually watch her content, they're going to be hearing more and more and more of Candace is nuts and she's lying and less of, I don't want to speak anything bad about Candace. So you've got to call her out. There is a such thing as bad press. and she's certainly getting it right now. The reason why she came out and said, Erica said she wants me to stop lying,
Starting point is 01:54:08 which I will honor, if she explains how I've lied, she has to do that because she knows if she actually comes out and says, no, Erica, I won't let stop. It'll be very, very bad for her and her audience will turn on her. So she's got to keep incrementalizing and be very careful.
Starting point is 01:54:23 That's why she said before only her husband and Erica Kirk could make her stop because she knew no one would tolerate her harassing a grieving widow. She's got to increment her way into that. People need to call her out. All right. Thames says, Candice may be acting out the following black mirror.
Starting point is 01:54:40 Bet Noir, girl interrupted, hand that rocks the cradle, and a whole lot of single white female and the invisible guest obsessive females. Indeed. Indeed. All right. Let's grab some of these YouTube jitch. David Bricken says, in the words of Assassin's Creed, nothing is true.
Starting point is 01:54:59 Everything is permitted. What does that mean? Not sure. Yeah, what does that mean? I've heard that said in Assassin's Creed, and it sounds like something someone wrote thinking it sounded profound, but they don't actually understand what it means. It is a non-sequitur. Nothing is true.
Starting point is 01:55:15 Everything is permitted. I get it. People are always lying and you can just do things. That's one way to put it. But I feel like in the context of Assassin's Creed, it literally just didn't mean anything. I suppose they can just say, you can just do things. It always amazed me that there are people who don't realize that you can just do things. Like the high school diploma thing is a really great example.
Starting point is 01:55:36 Everybody was like when I'm growing up, but you have to get at least a GED, right? How are you going to get a job? And I was like, lie. And what? You'd lie. I'm like, do you think that McDonald's actually wants to see my diploma? Holy crap, dude. Or how about, uh, like you apply for a job and you show up wearing a, you know, like a nice button up shirt and a tie to apply for a fast food job? They're not going to care if you have a high school diploma or not. More importantly, I worked for American Eagle Airlines, which is American Airlines Regional, and it required a high school diploma. I didn't have one. But I took theater acting at a community college. And so when I applied, they said,
Starting point is 01:56:16 what's your highest level of education? I said, some college, which is true. And they said, okay, good enough. They don't need my transcripts. They don't need any proof. Some college, I get it. When my friend applied, they said, what's your highest level of education? He says, and they say, you're going to have to bring your diploma. And so we had to then go home, grab his diploma, come back later for another meeting where he showed and proved that he had a high school where I didn't have to do that. And I didn't. You didn't have to do that?
Starting point is 01:56:44 No. The other thing is I once got a job as a director of a nonprofit. And I had done nonprofit fundraising. And so when I applied, it said college degree required. I don't got one of those. And so I listed all my accolades. And I included the college. I just put College of DuPage, you know, criminal justice or whatever.
Starting point is 01:57:04 And so they called me in for a meeting because they liked the accolades. The accolades said I was a nation's best fundraiser. And the director said, so I see you went to college and I said, I did. And they said, oh, okay, and how was that? I said, it was great. They said, you studied criminal justice. I did. And how was that?
Starting point is 01:57:19 I was like, it's very interesting stuff. And they said, why not pursue a career in the justice field? And I was like, not really interested in pursuing that. And they said, how long did you go to college for? And I said, two months. and they said, okay, well, as you should be aware, the job listing has said it requires a college degree for this position. And I said, I'm absolutely aware. What I'll say to you is, I am a nation's best fundraiser for Greenpeace, the PIR groups, the Human Rights Campaign, the ACLU, Children's International, Save the Children, etc.
Starting point is 01:57:50 Now, if you want to hire someone with absolutely no experience because they're fresh out of college, then please do so, you have my blessing. But if you want to hire a nation's best fundraiser as a director of your nonprofit, then you can, hire me. You let me know, and if it's a non-starter for you, then I appreciate your time. Thank you. And they said, okay, well, we'll give you a call. And then two days later, they called me and said, you're hard. So if the job's not for you, that's why I hate a college degrees. Like, if you can't do the job, your degree means nothing to me. I, it's really funny stories. I knew somebody who was studying music business on our third year at Columbia. And I was like, so what, like, you know, what are you studying? The music business, like,
Starting point is 01:58:27 oh, right on. Like, what if, so what are you doing? What have you done? And she said, what do you mean? And I said, like, do you manage any bands? Do you have like any records out? Like, are you like, what are you doing? She's like, nothing. I'm in college. And then I was like, you're 21. And she was like, yeah, I know, but I'm just in school. I haven't gotten a job yet. And I was like, I'm a high school dropout. And I've managed like three bands. And I've helped friends record music. And my buddy who's 18 is managing a band that's opening for a huge European tour with 5,000 tickets sold. He's a high school dropout. What do you? in college for? It's just so insane how people just don't understand you can just do things. All right. Let's grab this bad boy right here. What do we got? Based African says, missed my chance to super chat this in the earlier episode, but Tim should review Bill Burr's explanation of how women argue. You're winning the argument against Candace, just keep cool and don't call her a cunt. It was a very appropriate for the situation. I made this point earlier in the morning and I said Cam Higby put out a post where he showed the follower and subscriber count for Candice.
Starting point is 01:59:33 The month before Charlie died, it was the lowest she ever had. Zero growth and the lowest view she's ever gotten on her channel. Right when Charlie dies, her views and her subscribers skyrocket. And I pointed out that is a man's argument. To win an argument with a man, you say, let's review the numbers. Candice Owens made a tactical assessment on the metrics of her channel. her her her, her, her, her, women don't argue that way. That is not how you went
Starting point is 02:00:01 and argue with a woman. You went an argument with a woman saying, I think Candace loved Charlie. I think she was in love with him. Did you see how she was texting with him? Like, about his clothes and stuff? She loved him. And you know what happened? He chose Erica. He wanted to be with another woman. Could you imagine
Starting point is 02:00:17 how mad Candace must have been? That's how you went in argument with the woman. The, the men don't understand that women tend not to be like sterile, cold, and calculating and are more curious about the human experience and the social elements of what's going on. That is exactly what Candace Owens
Starting point is 02:00:34 is doing on her show. She is not coming out and saying, Charlie's, she's not doing the thing where she's like, let's go through the 990 forms and go over how much money Charlie was spending. What she's doing is she's saying Charlie's friends betrayed him. His friends did this to him. And it's like, oh, oh, you know, and
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