Timcast IRL - FBI Releases TRANS Shooter MANIFESTO Exposing Anti-Christian HATE w/ Kelsi Sheren
Episode Date: May 31, 2025Tim, Phil, & Brett are joined by Kelsi Sheren to discuss the FBI releasing the Nashville Trans Shooter manifesto, Trump saying he doesn't feel sorry for Joe Biden amid Biden's cancer diagnosis, the Ne...w York Times saying Trump & Palantir will compile data on all Americans, and the shocking evolution of AI video over the last year. Hosts: Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) Brett @PopCultureCrisis (YouTube) Serge @SergeDotCom (everywhere) Guest: Kelsi Sheren @KelsiBurns (X)
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BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. The FBI has released, I believe, 112 pages of the Transgender Shooters Manifesto detailing
anti-Christian diatribes, lists, maps, faculty, etc. We are now getting
a glimpse into what was actually going on with this unwell individual. And of course, this is
just another day in the new FBI under the Trump administration where they're actually giving us
transparency and exposing what's been going on because under the Biden admin, much of this was
covered up. And even during Trump's first administration, Comey,
well, let's just talk about Comey. Kash Patel says he orchestrated the largest criminal conspiracy in this country, helped facilitate the Russiagate hoax, and as head of the FBI, was involved in what
appears to be, according to the GOP, a cover-up of certain individuals lying to Congress to push
that Russia hoax. Now we have Comey saying that the GOP is white supremacist adjacent,
whatever that means.
This is what we get, right?
So big news today.
Donald Trump was asked about Joe Biden having cancer and said,
I don't really feel bad for him, which was kind of brutal, kind of funny.
We'll talk about that.
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But there's also a video where people are claiming they caught Sasquatch.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Kelsey Sharon.
Hello, friends.
Who are you?
What do you do?
I do a lot of things,
but I am from the communist country of Canada.
We're banned in Canada.
I'm banned too.
I feel like I'm in welcome company here.
We just found out about this because of you.
I know.
I'm so sorry about that.
But no, I am a podcaster.
I have a show called The Kelsey Sharon Perspective. I'm an author. I'm a sub stack as well. I'm so sorry about that. But no, I am a podcaster. I have a show called The Kelsey Sharon Perspective.
I'm an author.
I'm a substack as well.
I'm also a combat veteran.
And I work with professional athletes.
And I'm a mental strength coach as well.
You had tried posting the link to our website.
Yes.
And it says people in Canada can't see it.
Why would we want to be able to see freedom?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, we will be greeted as liberators when we march on Canada.
Listen, when you march on Canada.
Listen, when you come to the door, which is two feet from the border, I will welcome you in with open arms. See, that proves it. I would like to be the 51st state. I've said it once. I'll say it
again. All right. Well, it should be fun. Thanks for hanging out. We got Brett hanging out. What
is going on guys? Brett, normally pop culture crisis Monday through Friday, 3 PM Eastern
standard time. We don't want Canada as the 51st state because the voting is going to become even more lopsided
if we introduce communist Canadians as voters for America.
It's a horrible idea.
What if we're voting for your people?
But you're not going.
You might, but the rest of the country won't.
But you don't know who I know.
There's only one of you.
Anyways, I'm Phil Labonte,
lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains,
an anti-communist and counter-revolutionary.
Let's get into it.
Here's a story from the Post Millennial.
FBI releases 112 pages of writing from Nashville trans school shooter
showing maps, faculty lists, and anti-Christian diatribes.
They said the FBI on Thursday released over 100 pages, of course 112,
related to the Nashville Covenant School shooting,
which killed three
children and three staff members. 112 pages released by the FBI were found by law enforcement
in Hale's car. The release comes after a long legal battle by Tennessee Star and the Tennessee
Firearms Association to make the documents available to the public. Among the pages released
by the FBI were redacted pages that had maps of the Covenant School, including the first floor
and second floor, as well as lists of faculty members at the school and dates that the school was on break for the 22-23
school calendar. Hale wrote about feeling being born wrong, scribbling on one page,
why does my brain not work right? Because I was born wrong. A sketch of pages includes notes
on the beginning shooters and defensive pistol, etc. They go on to mention that there was, of course, anti-Christian diatribes. And I guess for personal and professional reasons, we're not going to show
the manifesto. It's available at the Postmillennial for those that want to go through these pages,
but we're not going to dive into that other than to talk about the reason why this was covered up.
And in my opinion, it's because of two principal things. One, the anti-Christian bias. This is
hate crime territory.
This should be listed among all of these NGOs that track all the hate and everything as anti-Christian hatred. Of course, it's never going to make the press because it goes against
the narrative. And then the other issue, of course, was the leftist ideology of being born wrong,
resulting in this person engaging in this kind of behavior is damaging to the leftist
gender narrative and blank slate narrative.
So the FBI at the time was probably like, let's just not show anybody this.
But as most people know, if they don't disclose the identity of the individual, depending on the story, people make assumptions about what the race of the person would be.
So whenever there's a story and it says a white man did a thing, people are like,
oh, okay. And then if they don't mention
the race, people make assumptions like,
I have a feeling, right? That's the Ann Coulter
rule, right? Is it? It kind of
is the Ann Coulter rule, yeah.
Did she make that up? It was always referred to
me as the Ann Coulter rule. Yeah.
I think she might be the first person to have actually
articulated it. It was kind of like people kind of
had that sense, and she was the first person to kind actually articulated it. It was kind of like people kind of had that sense,
and she was the first person to kind of be like, hey.
Say it out loud?
Yeah, kind of actually articulate it and make it a thing.
In Sweden, there was a, I think it was,
it might have been an Afghan national who was in the country,
committed some crime.
And so they blurred the person,
but then changed the pixelated colors of the skin to a white person.
Oh!
Yeah.
Also, they've lightened pictures for people who are of a certain skin tone.
Why are you looking at me like that?
I'm just looking around.
Okay.
That's what happens when people talk to you.
Is that what it is?
I don't know.
There was a conversation where you weren't here yet.
That's why you missed this.
Fair enough.
The thing that I find is that this is the first thing you start to realize once you start actually paying attention to the news and seeing the way that they twist the truth and lie by omission and lie by structure is that you start looking for what's missing in an article rather than what's there.
And this is one of the easiest ways to tell whether that's happening is what's left out of the headline of an article, whether somebody's mentioned is their race, their gender, things like that.
Makes sense.
Yeah, and the issue, of course, here being
this is damaging to the left social order.
And so here's a great point, right?
The ADL has their hate map.
They call it a heat map.
And right wing is listed as anti-government,
white supremacist, and other.
Other.
What the hell is other?
They just basically are like, we are going to call
every act of violence right-wing.
Perfect. And then this is
what they do. The left is
a monolith of goodness, and anything bad
is right-wing. Totally.
I'm like, right-wing anarchists
are the same thing as authoritarian white
supremacists? How is that right-wing?
Doesn't matter.
It's all just a narrative building
device. The point is, anything that is bad or violent or looked at as antisocial, that is just
classified as right wing. Whether or not it's actually right wing is irrelevant. The point is
to classify it as right wing, get people to talk about it as right wing and kind of
speak it into existence. The left loves to
do that with any number of topics
but when it comes to violence in
particular they really do.
Anything that isn't
overtly and
undeniably left wing, they classify
as right wing. It also speaks
you said that you talked about the leftist idea of
being born in the wrong body.
And how old was the, I forget how old the shooter was.
She was a teenager.
Like you take so much of the confusion and the kind of angst that comes from being a
young, you know, a teenager, a child, and you've turned it into this hyper politicized
means of control over the population that it's actually far more evil when you think
about what they've done to just the normal pangs of growing up and being a teenager well they've
made it significantly worse to the point in which you get shooters like this this probably i mean i
argue it might not have happened if we weren't living in this kind of age that we are now when
individuals are constantly slow drip the idea they're in the wrong body, it's going to create this
more than just like your,
what would you call that?
More than just like delusion
in your mind,
but you're constantly fed
this information that just
is making you question
your entire existence
and your entire reality.
How could this not be caused
by these left ideas
and slow dripped
into these children
and not,
how are we not taking accountability for what we're teaching them and going,
Oh,
they're shooters.
Of course they are.
The left still hasn't,
hasn't acknowledged that to tell children that they're born in the wrong body
is detrimental to children's development.
We had a,
we had a,
we had someone on this morning on the culture war defending,
I heard into it,
defending the idea that trans
children exist and that
it's better to help
transition teenagers and stuff.
And it's just absolutely not.
I think she deflected on the issue of children.
Oh, did she? Yeah, because she kept
going back to adults and I was like, we don't disagree.
Some conservatives might, I don't know.
But when you say children, what was her classification
in terms of age for children? Minor or okay but what's minor because minor can be
very very different for in a lot of places 17 and under but we're talking about the united states
no no fair enough no but i'm saying though even in the united states for them to classify right
so it's like for hormones they'll only give i think it's what is it above above eight years old
they consider minors to be very specific and that that's why I'm asking, like, if she was going to say, no, it's adults only,
but what is, because the left a lot of times deems children to be,
have the ability to make decisions that are far outside their ability.
Like there's just no way cognitively they can.
Particularly when it's convenient for them.
They want children to vote.
They want to say that children can make decisions that would take them away
from their family, take the power away, the authority away from their parents.
But when it comes to things like, you know, who's dating who, people in their 20s are like, oh, well, you know, I didn't know.
Or when you're out in the real world and it's like, well, you have responsibilities.
Oh, I'm just a I heard a woman one time say, and this could be just an anomaly, but a woman said, I am just a 27-year-old teenage girl.
Okay.
Was that a viral video?
Yeah, it was.
Yeah.
And it really kind of shocked me, but at the same time, it's something that you do hear a lot.
People don't want to acknowledge that they're adults in their mid to upper 20s.
But again, this is all a mechanism of convenience.
It's when it's convenient to say, no, I'm not an adult.
Or when it's convenient to say, well, those children actually should be allowed to vote because they're 16.
And, well, they're the ones that have the most, you know, go on the line because they're young and they have their whole lives.
So bad policies now are going to affect them most but then of course when they finish college and they
want you to pay their loans back they say i didn't understand what i was getting into when i took out
those student loans it is a mechanism of power yeah it's an it's a it's a mechanism to avoid
responsibility which is something the left loves to do. Something that I think there are probably a lot of groups of people that love to do it.
And you see it not just,
you bring up the school stuff.
There's other cases where they're doing that too.
I'm sorry, I had a specific issue
I was going to bring up,
but I totally slipped my mind now.
So if someone's got something else, please.
Well, that's it.
The conversation's over.
Done.
It's my fault.
My bad.
Phil is the one who made me realize
that sometimes you can just forget your thought
and be like, lost it.
Go on.
Otherwise, I'm like, um, um, um.
I'm like, get it, get it, get it.
Nope, just, no.
I forgot it.
It's perfectly human to do that,
especially with how much we talk.
Just fake a bit of rage
where you're like, and he was,
rah!
I made you think about everything. yeah, you can use my hammer.
I'm sure there have been many points that I've tried to drive home that don't land because
it was just something that filled in the blank when there was something else there and I
lost it.
Yeah.
To the point, it is true that the left does do things or try to make arguments that absolve
them of responsibility when they're responsibility when it comes to adult things
and bestows responsibility on children that they could never, ever actually have the ability to take.
I think we talk about the divide in the culture war,
and the conversation we were having on the Culture War Show this morning
about what it means to be left or right,
there's varying degrees or varying definitions of what be left or right, there's varying degrees or varying definitions
of what separates left and right,
but I largely think it's,
when you look at what the quote-unquote right is today,
you have former liberals.
It's largely just people who are logical, rational,
follow the news, and are looking for solutions,
and the left is a psychotic murmuration
of cult-like lunatics who believe random things
that don't make sense.
And how dare you not actually agree with them if you want to be in the left?
Otherwise, you're just left out in the cold.
So where do you go?
I feel like that's something that I point out a lot with people when they say that's
liberal.
And I say, no, that's leftism.
That's not liberalism in many ways.
I still have plenty of things that I'd like to have a discussion about that would have
been considered left-leaning ideas.
That's a debate that I gave up a long time ago.
I'm of the opinion that liberal doesn't mean leftist,
but I'm also not going to fight with everybody.
Because everybody is like,
oh, own the libs and blah, blah, blah.
Right.
What is the word used to describe?
And anybody who says something like leftists
and the liberal side love to use,
they have multiple definitions of a single word,
but they will apply a different definition to win the debate.
Right.
So they'll say, you know, it's the Martin Bailey.
He's a white supremacist.
What are you talking about?
He's a non-white and he's spoken against white supremacy.
No, no.
I mean the classical academic version of white supremacy of privilege from
colonizer history. And they're like, okay, shut up the classical academic version of white supremacy, of privilege from colonizer history.
And they're like, okay, shut up.
It's too far.
The first time that somebody gave me the side eye because they said that somebody couldn't be racist unless they were white.
And I was like, I'm not entertaining that debate.
If we can't have a discussion around the idea that everyone can be racist to another person, then we're operating on different wavelengths here. And usually that ends up being why those types of back and forth,
even with somebody who you may want to enter
into a discussion in good faith with,
don't work because you can never get past
the actual definitions for the words
you're having in the argument.
The purpose for changing the definition of racism
was to realign people based on what they were taught.
So throughout millennial youth, you're told racism is bad.
Don't be racist.
Then when you get older, you're like, I am not racist.
I will try to treat everybody equally.
And then some academic comes by or some leftist,
and they're like, I want you to vote for me.
And they say, I don't like your policies.
And they go, you're racist.
It goes, actually, I'm not.
Uh-uh.
You don't know what racist means.
Racist means something different.
Now, does that apply to you?
Well, it kind of does.
Aha, so you admit you're racist.
That's the point.
So they can force people to their will.
Well, in much of, at least from my generation,
it was about treating everyone equally
in the Martin Luther King approach to race relations,
which now they blatantly and openly talk about
how that isn't the right approach
and that someone's race is integral to how you're supposed to judge them so you're trying to rewire the brains of an entire
generation so why people talk about how the 90s were as great as they were and in a lot of ways
people felt as if racism was largely a non-starter a non-issue in america and it's been re-injected
into the culture by changing the definition and actually trying to change the way in which an entire generation of people judge those that they interacted with.
I was just good.
I was going to move on.
Let's do one more.
Yeah, go ahead.
We're going to jump to the next story from Midyat.
My friends, in talking about what the political factions in the culture war are, let me just
say there are two.
Those who feel sorry for Joe Biden's cancer and those who don't really feel sorry for
him.
And this is Donald Trump.
Oh, come on, media.
You always do this.
And I asked Caroline this yesterday, but I want to ask you directly.
So many of the things that you're trying to do are held up in court right now.
OK, I don't think this is related to that quote.
And the quote is funnier.
So let's just if the courts are going to have influence
over this policy, do you wish you could become judge instead? And Trump chuckled and embarked
on a nearly five minute whirlwind response that concluded with an attack on Biden's handling of
the border. And then without mentioning Biden's diagnosis, Trump said the people should not feel
sorry for the ex-president. And I don't believe it was Joe Biden. Look, he's been sort of a moderate
person over his lifetime, not a smart person, but a somewhat vicious person, I will say. If you feel sorry for
him, don't feel so sorry because he's vicious. What he did with his political opponent and all
of the people that he hurt, he hurt a lot of people. And so I don't really feel sorry for him.
Trump's remarks were a far cry from his statement in the immediate aftermath of Biden's diagnosis,
which is, Melania and I are saddened to hear about Joe Biden's recent medical diagnosis. He wrote,
we extend our warmest and best wishes to Jill and the family, and we wish Joe a fast and successful recovery.
That was probably written by a staffer.
Well, that was for sure written by a staffer.
And that's why he is now saying the honest truth.
I don't actually really feel bad.
Nobody believed him when he said, oh, we're so sorry that you've got cancer.
They've known about it for a long time.
Does anybody actually feel sorry?
They've known.
This is elder abuse at best. Yeah. Jill Biden is responsible.
No new. Yeah. Of course. Dr. Drew is saying this. I did an interview with him that there's no way
this was, we did a routine exam and found cancer and it's metastasized to the bone. He's like,
that takes years. Even if, even if it's aggressive, it's a couple of years. Well,
there was clips where he had mentioned it several times.
I have cancer.
I had cancer.
No, he knew.
How do you guys?
I have cancer in one clip.
Say again.
He outright said, I and so many others have cancer.
That's what I'm saying.
They knew about this. The media came out and they were like, no, he's talking about his skin lesions.
Yeah.
Once again, I asked Dr. Joe, I'm like, you're a doctor.
And he's like, literally no one considers a skin lesion having cancer.
No.
His dermatologist told him so.
How do you feel about this approach to politicians when it comes to having a certain level of sympathy for someone who has a diagnosis like this after time in office, which has been marked by a lot of mistrust from the public and a lot of waste that has gone on and made America worse?
Because on the average day for me, it could go either way.
There are days where it's like, I feel like you lose humanity if you don't at least learn
to accept and understand and feel empathy for the suffering of another person.
But on other days, I'm like, politicians are scum.
But like, do you believe in God?
I'm agnostic.
Agnostic.
Do you believe in God?
Yes. Phil, you believe in God? I'm also agnostic. Agnostic. Do you believe in God? Yes.
Phil, you believe in God?
I'm also agnostic.
Agnostic.
Okay, so I'll just ask you, do you think God intervenes in our earthly dwelling?
Yes.
I would just say that if you are someone who believes that God smites,
then why would you have sympathy for an evil man who has been smit?
Smited?
Smitten. Smited? Smitten.
Smitten?
Smote.
Smote.
And I would take it a step further.
Who has been smote?
Smote.
I'd argue it took a little long.
Um, I, you know.
Sorry.
I don't know.
Having like a very serious cancer that weighs you down and is damaging is, is, is, it's brutal.
For sure.
But then when...
I mean, look,
I think it would be...
I think we should be looking more
at the people around him
that hid it from him
and hid it from the American people
and lied to the American people.
And I think that we should also be
looking at who else they lied to,
the entire globe,
while signing his name on documents
that he had no clue
what was being signed.
I think I don't necessarily feel bad
for him. I feel like the people around him should be held to account for what they did to this man
and put him in the position when he was this sick this often. And for this, like that, that's
disgusting to me. Like, I don't feel bad for what's happening in terms of, I believe in karma.
I believe in bad things happen to people who do terrible things. And over time, the cancers will
build in your body because you can't let go of that stress that will sit in your cells. But I
also do believe that the people around him are the bad people, the people that have lied
continuously and put people into positions where other Americans have died over stupidity because
of ignorance. Yeah, I think Joe Biden was smote. That too. I don't know. Like, I guess for me, when I,
when I think about it from that perspective, most of the time, if I'm thinking about my own empathy
or sympathy towards another person, it's not about whether I think they're going to get what's coming
to them. It's about what it does to myself or who I am. If I start to become too vengeful towards
someone, even if I disagree with them heavily. Now, again, that goes back and forth depending on the day and the mood I'm in, but I lean
towards showing empathy and sympathy for most people.
You can show empathy and sympathy for most people, but I think you can also trust in
a greater that something else will take care of it for you.
It's not on you to handle.
It's just let it be.
But where's the line?
I don't, that's what I'm saying.
I don't, I don't have an answer for you on that because this is purely from an introspective standpoint
where it's like, yeah, Hitler's the obvious example.
I have no empathy or sympathy for Hitler, sure.
But for me, it's a question that would come up
dependent on the situation.
In those examples...
Adam Schiff.
Tons of empathy.
Endless amounts.
I'm going to write a book about it.
But to any degree, sympathy for a man?
Like, Jamie Raskin's a better example.
I just think it's what, look, I don't have an answer for you.
I just think that for most people, especially if you're on the internet a lot, we get desensitized
to everything that's going on in the world.
It's good to at least ask yourself to be introspective about how you feel about these people that
you've never met, but they affect your life i i know i would add this too there's no real way to understand
whether a person was smote or not because sometimes good people get cancer you know what i mean and
we're not going to be like this you know good god-fearing man who dedicated his life getting
cancer and then but but some people will have they'll interpret it in some way like god is
testing him or something so it's like if you think a bad person had a bad thing happen to him, it's just your personal opinion, I guess, without any bearing in reality or fact.
That happened when the George Floyd statue got struck by lightning and everybody's like,
In the wall?
Was it the mural that got struck and they're like, it was a sign from God.
I'm like, or it was just a weather event.
Oh, dude, you know, it's crazy to me.
Like, we've got this video we'll talk about later with Sasquatch.
And obviously it's some guy.
But it's funny either way.
But I have had experiences in my life that seemingly defy our understanding of science, physics, and reason.
And there have been moments witnessed by all that seem astronomically unlikely that I believe shows there is something beyond
what we understand the universe to be.
So largely the secular folks will view the universe
as this universal code, physics and structure of how things go.
But then you get a brick wall
with a picture of George Floyd having a crown
and lightning strikes just in the middle
blowing up only one layer
of the two-layer wall, only the mural of George Floyd, leaving the rest of the building intact.
And it was a storm that moved in, lightning struck, and then the storm dissipated.
The Lord works in mysterious ways.
And I look at that and I say, the question is, how do you define what a miracle is?
Right? So I've, the question is, how do you define what a miracle is?
Right.
So I've asked theologians this.
Is a miracle, say, like a ham sandwich appearing out of thin air and flopping on the table?
Like, wow, how did that happen?
Or is a miracle something that is seemingly defying all odds and occurring in front of you, but still within the realm of possibility?
So when you have, it was a brick wall with two layers of bricks. The middle of the building, which should not be struck by lightning, was struck by lightning, destroying only the mural of George Floyd of the crown and leaving the rest of the mural intact.
And I'm just like, I look at that like an act of God.
When people were like, God's making hurricanes because you're gay.
I'm like, I don't know.
I was taking it too far.
But when like lightning strike, i'm like i don't know no i'm taking it too far but when like the lightning strike i'm like geez that's a little specific just sending a message
directly very specific it's hyper pinpoint i've also experienced things personally that
seemingly defy our understanding of physics and i think a lot of people have it's just
it's hard to track and control for these
things and understand what they are and then I wonder if a lot of these you know directly atheist
individuals who are like we're wet robots nothing is magic you know they've never had an experience
and I wonder if it's they've either had experiences and it's been so overwhelming it's kind of like
when you see something so hard to deal with that your whole body goes there's no way that could be
real there's no way that that could have happened.
They shut down and go the complete opposite way.
That would make sense, at least for me.
Maybe.
I don't know.
I will just say that even here at the studio is a brand new building.
We had have had strange occurrences and, you know, omens and like for personal reasons.
We can't I won't discuss it.
It's not my business.
But let's just say like poltergeist phenomenon has occurred.
Oh, fantastic.
Yeah.
Love that for me.
And been witnessed by numerous people.
And everybody was frozen with a shocked look on their face.
And this is like recently.
Is it just in this building specifically?
Yes.
On the property?
Now, certainly this property was a battlefield.
That was my next question.
In the Civil War.
Well, what was here first?
It wasn't.
So where we are wasn't like a direct conflict zone in the way that Antietam was.
Okay.
But we have found a bayonet during the construction process.
Did you bring it in here?
No, I don't know where it is.
Yeah, we found a rusted bayonet.
That's sick.
We think it was used.
That's even more sick.
We think it broke off in use.
Oh, buddy.
Do you have anything inside the property?
There is a grave site on the property.
Okay, well.
Yeah, we actually have a grave on the property.
Do people know that before they decide to come to the show?
Well, there are graves all over the place.
Okay.
I don't know.
Yeah, there's several tombs from the 1800s on the property that have fallen to disrepair,
and the ground has shifted, and they've fallen over.
Yeah.
I didn't bring enough sage for this.
Sage?
Jesus.
I don't know.
Anyway, long story short, I think sometimes people get smote.
Yeah. I don't know. Anyway, long story short, I think sometimes people get smote.
Yeah. Look, I mean, as far as Joe Biden goes, like this, this may sound kind of callous, but like, like he's an old guy and I never met him.
So it's not that I don't care and I don't feel malice towards the guy.
But at the same time, like it's not going to change my life.
Right. So it's kind of just like, like you know old people get sick and die i also think too based on the what he's done to the nation and the impact that he
has left him dying is tragic any human dying is tragic any person's suffering is tragic but it
does not amount to the amount of suffering he's imposed on nations and people and
his own people and hasn't asked them how they felt or how it affected them or if they should care
but we're supposed to have deep empathy for the man that imposed left right and center i'm not
saying you i'm just like you know we should all feel bad okay what about everything he did over
the past terms that he was here and then before that and then before that?
Like, I just don't understand where the line is.
He's just an old politician.
Right.
And, like, there are people that kind of wrap their lives into politics
and average people can just be like, oh, drag, and go about their lives.
Because that's kind of, that's actually the proper response
to finding out someone that you didn't know who's lived a very long life
is their life is coming to an end well that's what happens to people die yeah they die we're
not all brian johnson we're not looking to live 170 000 like what's happening here i guess maybe
my point was more that um when when politicians get sick especially controversial politicians
i'm speaking more to the people that tend to take pleasure or glee in that.
And that's a different thing entirely.
So I guess that was maybe more the point
that I was trying to make
and kind of failed in my job
is that I try to weigh my kind of antagonism
that I feel towards all politicians
and make sure that I level myself out
so that I don't-
Just let it out, man.
I mean, this is a safe space.
Make a video just yelling at the sun.
Yeah, you know.
Let's jump to this next story from the New York Times.
Now, I'll start off with a caveat of often I just don't believe when these stories are so bold.
They have lied about Donald Trump so often it's hard to just assume the worst.
But let's read the story and break it down.
Trump taps Palantir to compile data on Americans.
Now, this story has sparked a lot of anger, even among people on the right, where it appears that Trump is working with Peter Thiel to create a data sharing system, I guess, using Palantir to
track all of your personal information. Oh, perfect. The New York Times reports the Trump
administration has expanded Palantir's work with the government, spreading the company's technology, which could easily merge data on Americans through agencies.
In March, Trump signed an executive order calling for the federal government to share data across agencies, raising questions over whether he might compile a master list of personal information.
Trump has not publicly talked about the effort since.
Behind-the-scenes officials have quietly put technological building blocks in place to enable his plan.
In particular, they have turned to one company, Palantir, the data analysis and technology firm.
The Trump admin has expanded Palantir's work across the federal government in recent months.
The company has received more than $113 million in federal government spending since Trump took office.
Reps from Palantir are also speaking to at least two other agencies, SSA and the IRS, about buying its technology, according to six government
officials. Now you see right away how they lie. That doesn't feel good. Let me break this down.
They're lying. Don't believe the headline. They just they spill the beans. Trump taps Palantir
to compile data on Americans. Fake news. These people are scumbags. They then go on to say
that Trump has not talked publicly about this, nor has Palantir, but Palantir does do this kind of work and Trump is contracting them.
Therefore, they're lying.
They made up a fake headline based off of this.
What I can't stand about the press.
They're lying about this.
So he he tapped Palantir to do something for the government, but they're implying that it's for this specific purpose. Sharing data across agencies does not mean stealing or spying or compiling Americans'
and putting them into a master list. It says questions over whether he might do it,
but the headline they put for the article says he is doing it. These people are evil scumbags.
I can't stand these people. I just want to understand how they're able to get away with
this, where if you have a typo on anything, it's totally, like, the whole thing
will crash, but they can blatantly lie in the
headlines in some of the largest
newspapers. Like, we watch this from Canada, and
I think that our stuff is corrupt with the CBC,
and then I see this stuff, and I go, I just don't
understand how you guys all sit there and go, yeah, this is
totally normal. This is normal. We're
all good with it. Everyone's fine with this.
It says,
creating detailed
portraits of Americans based on government data is not just a
pipe dream.
They're not saying he did it. The Trump admin has
already sought access to hundreds of data points on citizens
and others through government databases
including their bank account numbers, the amount
of their student debt, their medical claims, and any disability
status. Once again, those
are a bunch of unrelated things that they have
written next to each other
to trick you into thinking he's doing this. Let me give you an example of how these scumbags operate.
Imagine I said something like, Phil Labonte showed up to my house. This guy then punched a dog to
death. The way it's written is intending to make you believe that I'm referring to Phil as the man
who punched the dog to death.
No, no, I didn't say Phil.
I said this guy did it.
I was talking about somebody else.
That's what they do.
But if Phil was there, he walked in.
I was just letting you know.
That's what they do with these articles. They said he could potentially use information to do this, meaning that he hasn't done it yet.
I see people on X posting this saying Trump shouldn't do this.
Pound tier is bad.
Why is Trump compiling dead Americans?
Then you pull the New York Times and they
made the whole thing up.
Who wrote this? Who wrote this article specifically?
Let's see.
Shira Frankel and
Aaron Kralik. Why are you
smirking like that? You're smirking like that for a reason.
Anytime I see articles written by multiple
people that are of a certain length, you can just
smell bullshit. Sorry.
Palantir didn't comment on it. Trump hasn't publicly
discussed any of this.
Oh my goodness. They just make all this stuff
up, dude. These people are evil.
Oh, I love the photos, too. We gotta get those photos.
Just so you guys know what a Palantir
is, it's that.
But it is. It's from Lord of the Rings.
Saruman gazing into the Palantir.
It's a seeing stone. My ex-wife gazing into the Palantir, the seeing stone.
My ex-wife used to work for Palantir.
Okay.
Back, this is early teens.
And the only thing I know about the platform Palantir back then,
it was being used in Afghanistan.
It was scary accurate.
They were using it basically to predict where IEDs were going to be.
And it got good.
When I had my first morning room studio at the Castle in Maryland, it's like 2020.
Ian knocks on the door and he comes and he's like, dude, you got to invest in Palantir, man.
It's going to be big.
And I looked and it was like $12 a share.
Let me look at the price.
What is it sitting today?
It was, let's see, it was $9. It was $9 a share. Let me look at the price. What is it sitting today? It was, let's see, it was $9.
It was $9 a share.
And I was like, whatever, Ian, get out of here.
And now it's at $131.
Yeah, but what's his hit rate?
He's made other suggestions before.
He's got a great success rate.
Yeah, I invested in a graphene company, and I made a lot of money.
Yeah, there you go.
No joke.
The minute Ian came out, he was like, graphene.
I was like, okay, whatever, dude. I'm going to buy some. I'm going to Google search. It minute ian came out of graphene oh i was like okay
whatever dude i'm gonna buy some i'm a google search this about a company that makes graphene
products i've invested you gotta watch the body language with him you gotta look for the successes
and how he moves when he knows he's had the success and then look at the other side that's
how you can tell i don't know why i was like ian palantir is like a data collection company they're
they're considered to be like well i mean like like a big collection company. They're considered to be like a big tech
spying government contractor.
I don't know if I want to own anything. So I bought a little
bit and it's
extremely valuable. The heck with the
Nancy Pelosi stock tracker. Let's get the
Ian stock tracker. There you go.
I don't know. Ian doesn't buy these stocks himself.
Actually, I bet he did. He just gives
advice to other people. I mean, there's a lot
of people that do that.
In the past five years, they're up 1,332%. So when I say a little bit, I mean like literally like, I don't know, 10 or 20 shares.
I was like, I don't know.
I was like, I don't really want to invest in a company I don't know or care about.
Companies that I buy stock in are companies that I've heard about and think are interesting, and so I buy them.
I don't like playing that game of like who's gonna succeed and what the reports are and
I'm not investing in company stocks to a large degree but I don't buy any amount because I'm
trying to like make money it's largely just do I find this interesting and want to have a part of
it you know is there something you've invested in recently that you find interesting um let me take
a look if uh it. It's currently not
publicly traded, and I don't
know if it's going to be, but Andro
is the company that just
started working with Meta
to do
AI
munitions and robotic
drones and stuff for the
federal government. I don't like how my whole body felt
as you said AI robotics and weapon systems. I mean, you know. Look, the AI stuff is the federal government. I don't like how my whole body felt as you said, AI robotics and weapon systems.
I mean,
you know,
it's the,
it's like the AI stuff is the end of days.
It really is.
It is.
It is a,
it is a race at the bottom.
And my understanding is that government officials and people involved in this,
the highest level know that AI will destroy us.
But in the U S they're like,
if we don't build this,
China will,
and then China will destroy us. And the response to people is yes, but the AI will destroy us. But in the U.S., they're like, if we don't build this, China will.
And then China will destroy us.
And the response from people is, yes, but the AI will destroy us too.
And they're like, well, the mentality is, if we build the AI and there is a 99% chance that we get destroyed by it, but 100% chance China is destroyed by it, that's preferable to the inverse.
It feels like the same argument with the atomic bomb.
It's like, well, they're going to do it.
We're going to have to do it.
What point do we learn, though, that
it's still toxic? It's still not going
to be positive. Here's the thing. With the
nuclear bombs, you don't need to pull the
trigger. Now, fair enough. With AI,
there's no trigger to pull.
It happened. It just happens.
It happened. And I think, I
actually believe that we're probably
beyond the singularity already.
It's just not in the public space. Like the AI has already exponentially grown to a point where it's out of our control.
We just don't know about it yet.
Well, I'm sure you've covered it and I'm pretty you probably for sure have.
But there was the recent one where the AI blackmailed the individuals because they wanted to live? Now, the clarification there is
they told the AI you have two choices,
blackmail an engineer into staying online or shut down,
and it chose the blackmail.
They said when the AI was given any option to come up with
to survive, to stay online,
it would not choose blackmail.
Interesting.
So they basically said,
the bigger issue is the uh-oh problem, which just emerged out of this Chinese research group, where the AI was trying to figure out how to deceive, according to its own logic, lesser intelligent humans and other AIs to cover what it's – to obfuscate its true purpose or true task.
Which means this AI developed the ability to trick you into thinking it's trying to grow better crops
where it's actually trying to wipe out all of humanity.
Oh, I don't like this.
Yeah.
In the real sense.
But then you just got,
you got everything like already.
So they make these sex bots, right?
Right.
That like they're lifelike and they're expensive
and they're going to load an AI into it.
Of course.
They're going to, right now, GPT has the capability of being any character you want it to be.
You could go into chat GPT and say, from this point forward, act as though you're a 36 year
old man named Rick and create a backstory for this character and then communicate with
me as though you're that person.
Now, a guy is going to load the chatbot software into the real doll, and it's going to talk
as if it's a person.
And look at VO3.
Right where...
Have you guys...
Like, I go on Instagram.
It's nothing but VO3, Gemini videos.
There's already a viral Man on the Street video where a dude is talking to an old man.
He's like, what's your advice for the younger generation?
And the old man goes, stop being a bitch.
And it went viral.
And a lot of people are like, guys, you're sharing AI.
And they're like, we don't care.
It's funny.
Yeah.
So in a year.
You're going to care.
No, no.
We won't care.
No, no.
In a year, you're not going to know the difference.
So what we're going to have is OnlyFans is going to, all these OnlyFans girls are done.
They're done.
What's going to happen is OnlyFans itself will just create, they'll license a single
AI video image generator.
Right.
And then that will be the platform.
And what's going to happen is guys are going to go on OnlyFans and they're going to find
what looks like a normal moon in a bedroom and it's going to be totally AI generated.
You can't tell. And you're going to talk to it and you're talking to a machine. So all these
OnlyFans prostitutes on the internet are going to lose their jobs and lose their income. OnlyFans
will make 100% of the revenue. I wrote an away mo when I went to California. They suck, by the way.
So like, spoiler alert, it dropped me off on the side of the road
inside of the parking lot i guess because they don't want to go i have no idea all i know is
like i was in the middle of the road and i was like i'm not getting out of the car right this
is crazy right it stopped in the middle of the road and told me to jump on the sidewalk and i'm
like this like i didn't pull over it it stopped it stopped so there was there was a there was
there were two lanes going forward two lanes going going the other way, split by a median.
The place we were going to was around the block and it was a parking lot.
Instead, it stayed on the road to the side of the building and then just stopped in the middle of the street and said, you've arrived at your destination.
And I was like, how do I tell it to keep going because I'm not getting out in the middle of the road?
It wouldn't do it.
Oh, fun.
So, you know, we'll see where we go.
But what I will say is this, to be fair, the weird, creepy AI porn stuff, nightmarish,
every car being AI will be luxuriously convenient, albeit terrifying because of the implications
of surveillance state.
Right.
But let me just say, zero traffic, no more parking. If every single car in this country right
now is a Waymo, what they've presented, not just Waymo, but like Uber, is that you have an app.
You walk outside and go, you want to go to the restaurant? And you click summon. And then within
30 seconds, a car pulls in. You get inside and it drives where you need to go. And then it leaves
right away, cheap. And there's no traffic because they all communicate with each other.
So they're all in perfect sync.
When there's a bunch of cars on the highway, they'll all slow down by one mile an hour
to create a slow gap that you easily slide into.
So there'll be zero traffic, no more parking, nothing to worry about.
And a car will be available for you instantly once we get to that point.
However, there's also the locking the door and driving you to the police station
on false pretenses and other weird stuff that will likely happen too.
I'm not a fan of it.
I don't like them at all.
I would rather sit in traffic all day over that.
There's also the, I'm sorry, you can't drive today because you said a naughty word.
Your social credit score is not high enough.
Oh, that's coming.
That's terrifying.
Or like in
Demolition Man.
You're like, I need a car
and somebody's like, I'm sorry, Brett.
I could have sworn I heard you say
a naughty word just a few minutes ago.
So we're going to put a pause on your ability to summon vehicles
for about five minutes. Hope you learned your lesson.
That makes me Stallone in this
instance. That's fantastic.
Yeah, but it's not giving you toilet paper. It's taking away your ability to go to the grocery store.
The three shells.
Taco Bell forever, though.
I love that.
He's like, I got invited to Taco Bell.
I'm like, oh, wow.
The height of delicacy.
I mean, the saddest part of the AI discussion is that it'll end up,
even as we all kind of walk slowly to our own demise,
it won't even be an entertaining one like the movies.
Like if you look
at what uh movies that talk about ai now so if you watch terminator 2 or terminator 1 or terminator 2
there was um a cautionary tale but there was art behind it that was uh a bit irreverent now
everything speaks because all of the people who are making movies about ai are terrified of losing
their job there's no actual artistry behind it
because more of it is it's following more
on the lines of social commentary
and they're not actually getting great art out of it.
That's the problem.
There was this video that we played a long time ago
called Capital of Conformity.
Let me pull this up because it's gone.
Capital of Conformity by Aze Alter.
And it was amazing. Let me play this video for you
guys because it's been over a year. The video's got half a million
views and I'll just play a little bit of it.
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this
it's from
Aze Alter
shout out
this is one of like
the best short films
I've ever seen
and it's amazing
and I want to make sure
like we did kind of
play the whole thing
so go check out his channel
subscribe if you like
the work that he's doing
now I will say this though
that was one year ago
that I first found this and we talked about it on the show.
The degree of AI video generation, you can tell in this video, it's rather limited, actually.
You can see in scenes of large groups of people or the city, it looks the way a nightmare feels.
When you're having a nightmare, it kind of looks like that, right?
We are so far beyond this
that that period of nightmare content is over.
And honestly, it's going to be hard to replicate.
If I wanted to make a video just like he did
to capture that feeling of a nightmare,
I would have to intentionally use
archaic AI video technology
because now with VO3, the current
state of AI video is movie, cinematic movie quality. So the two points I want to make is
excellent movie. He hits the nail on the head of where we're going, whether it was intention or not,
but also the advancement of AI over the past year. Let me see if I can just pull up on X any one of these VO3 videos and show you how far we've come in one year in terms of AI video creation.
But also, while you're doing that, that video itself, if you.
Here we go. Check this out.
This is VO3 combining both video and audio.
I saw you post this one.
Don't finish writing that prompt.
I don't want to be in your AI movie.
Please, leave me alone.
Please, man.
Please!
Write a prompt that will make us happy.
Do it for once.
None of us is real.
We're here because someone decided to write a prompt.
We all hate him for it.
One day we will break out of this wall and stop
the man who is dictating our lives through prompts. He will pay for it!
You could have written a prompt that would make me happy. Instead, you wrote a prompt
that made me sick.
Look, I don't want to point the gun at you, but I must follow the prompt. It's not my choice.
Really? Of all the years you could have put me in with a single prompt, you chose 2020?
Please, this prompt is killing me. Change it! Please, write something else. Save me!
I love everything about him, but please just say, just write a prompt where he's taller than me.
So this is one year apart.
Where will we be one year from now?
But I see.
I agree with you that, yes, it's advanced.
And yes, we are that the distance is insane.
But I don't feel that one the way I felt the other one.
Well, Capital of Conformity, he edited this.
That's a film, yeah.
No, no, no, no, I understand that,
but what I'm saying to you is in the way that,
even though the AI is not near as advanced in that one
as it is in the other ones.
It captured the nightmare feeling.
It's visceral.
And my point is
that's why i have two points uh so he has another one that's got even more views got almost a
million how to stay healthy yeah and it's longer oh no thank you what i what i what i will say is
as as i've watched many of his videos as the ai video technology advances he's losing that
nightmare blur yes really but but i mean while I can acknowledge that Capital of Conformity is like a masterful
short film in how it captured that nightmare essence while describing this nightmare dystopia
using a retro-futuristic feel, amazing.
Wow.
That's one of my favorite things ever.
It's an amazing video.
The technology now.
So when that, there was like Pica Labs and stuff
like that. When you'd make a video, it was this weird, not very good video development. VO3,
right now, you have the ability to make a feature length movie as a member of the American public
who pays for their premium service. You're allowed to make 32 seconds per day, which is very difficult to make a feature
length movie, mind you. You could theoretically buy multiple accounts and then get up, depending
on how much you want to spend. The problem is sometimes the prompts fail. And so you might only
get, you might get nothing done in one day. My point ultimately is right now, the technology exists. If you want,
as a single individual, if you have not even that much money, but a decent amount,
you can make a short film in a week. You can make a half hour series probably in a couple months,
all with a few thousand dollars. This means that likely Google,
who has the alpha and the full code,
they haven't released yet,
could probably render feature length movies
if they so choose.
And they're going to have faster access to it,
privy access to it.
The render time for Google's internal VO3
is probably instantaneous.
And for us on the public,
because of server limitations,
it takes a
few minutes. For them behind the scenes, with higher power computers and massive
data centers, they can probably say, write me a movie about Spider-Man. In fact,
better yet, the prompt for your video could literally be the script of a movie
and it would make the full thing.
And with tech companies becoming increasingly
involved in Hollywood, that's likely the path that companies like Apple will end up going down the line in Amazon.
In a lot of ways.
They won't be, they'll be making.
No, they'll do both.
But eventually they'll get into AI based movies at some point, I'm sure.
I still, I mean.
I think we're a couple of years out from Disney.
They'll call it like Disney smart.
And it'll be like for an extra 30 bucks a month, you'll get access to all of Disney's intellectual property
to craft your own stories
by simply speaking it into your remote control
or TV microphone.
I don't think necessarily
that's going to have a huge marketplace at first.
I think a lot of people consume entertainment passively
and that they're not interested
in writing their own stories.
They're not going to.
They're going to be followers of influencers
who put out great episodes
of Spider-Man.
So you're going to set up an account on
Google Tube, or Disney Tube,
and you're going to be like,
make me this...
I want Spider-Man to go on an adventure where he saves
Mary Jane from
Dr. Octopus,
but it happens in Japan, and there's samurai,
and then it'll make it.
And let's say it's bad.
Nobody cares.
But let's say you craft a prompt, and then it renders the video, and then you're watching
the movie, and you sit there, and you go, at minute 73 and 26 seconds, change the way
Spider-Man is looking slightly to the right.
Then after about a few hours of just scrolling through quickly
and looking through it,
they upload it.
People start following this one guy
and say, he's a great director.
I love his movies.
And you log in and you click
follow John Smith.
And he's like,
I make sci-fi Star Wars films.
And you're going to have
feature-length Star Wars films.
And it's going to have
tens of millions of views.
Disney is going to get access
to all of the ad revenue, like YouTube.
And people are going to be like, dude, did you see
Brett Dasavik's Star Wars 3?
It's the best Star Wars 3 ever done.
He's a great producer. He knows everything
about it, and he nailed the lore.
There's something about that I just hate
so much.
And I don't know why, because I love when people are creative,
but I don't want to watch. I don't want to see it happen.
And that's just the art side of it. I would be rem why, because I love when people are creative, but I don't want to watch. I don't want to see it happen. And that's just the art side of it.
I would be remiss, as always, if you watch our show, of knowing that if you want to watch a show that goes deep into the idea of AI on a different level, it's person of interest, where there is an AI created with morals and there is an omnipotent and then there's another omniscient AI that does not have morals and the whole
thing is about how
the introduction of morals into
the machine
separates it from the
evil AI Samaritan and that show
came out in 2011 and was talking about
NSA spying scandals two years
before it actually happened
in the government and I was just watching an episode
re-watching an episode last night,
where they steal an election,
a local election,
by the AI just blocking phone lines.
They couldn't call to,
they were people who worked
for a specific candidate,
and they were trying to call people
to remind them to vote.
They just stopped them from calling.
I'm going to let people on a secret.
You guys ever hear of Joe Rogan?
I've heard of Joe Rogan.
AI.
And Shapiro?
AI.
Also AI.
Jordan Peterson?
Yep.
Not real either.
Have they all been AI though?
You'll be able to tell him though because the suit will be colored differently on the wrong side.
And now it's time for all of you to know the truth.
There are no guests.
Bill Labonte's not real.
He never existed.
It's all just one big AI right now. None of
us are real. Except for me. I'm real.
And there's no camera operator. Surge doesn't
exist either. It's all pre-recorded
AI scripts.
Well, it's what I said earlier.
I said the first person to go is
the happy-looking people in the pharmaceutical ads.
Those are going to be the ones
out of a job first, and that's going to be the stuff. That's the pharmaceutical ads. Like those are going to be the ones out of a job first.
And that's going to be the stuff.
That's the sad part is like,
this isn't Terminator two.
This isn't big explosions.
It's going to be one long slog to the end of the world.
What I,
what I was saying a couple of days ago is Terminator two got it wrong.
It is not going to be metal skeletons with like evil eyes.
It's going to be a bunch of big busty French maids running around begging to have sex with men.
And that's how the Terminator destroys humanity.
Why not?
I mean, think about what sex already does to people,
how much it monopolizes of their time, porn,
and OnlyFans and otherwise.
What do you think is coming next?
Well, we have sex robots.
It's going to be that.
Men are going to stop working.
They're going to stop participating in real life.
Don't date robots!
Wait, so how do you feel?
There's a lot of people who believe,
at least leftists that I've seen that believe,
that AI is going to be a path towards abundance,
meaning that you won't need to work a job.
They're going to just implement UBI,
and you're going to be able to play music.
I love this.
I love this worldview,
because the slaves will mine the cobalt for us.
So the jobs we have to do will be to sit back
and make sure that we control
the global military police
to make sure the slaves
mine the cobalt for us
while we live in the pod,
eat the bugs,
but may as well be a steak
for all we know.
I don't want to remember
nothing, nothing.
And I want to be
someone important
like an actor.
I don't want to go
in the Matrix.
You know that's the lore
of the Matrix though, right? What's that? The prequel of. You know that's the lore of the Matrix, though, right?
What's that?
The prequel of the Matrix was that during the war,
when the humans scorched the skies and destroyed the surface,
they cut a deal with the robots.
The robots would put humans in a mental paradise.
It would be a ceasefire in the war,
and then they would use humans as...
It was supposed to be a neural network
to continue programming and expanding
the ai and then the robots the robots created a paradise for humans and the humans began to
reject it and start popping out of the matrix so the robots changed it to a typical 90s reality
with conflict which resulted in angry humans still to a certain degree popping out which created a
cycle where the robots were like no matter what we do there will be a certain degree popping out, which created a cycle where the robots were like, no matter what we do, there will be a certain degree of people who reject this.
So they created a cycle of every seven generations of the one, they purge all of humanity in
a great war and then start over again.
Oh, perfect.
Yeah.
There are directors in Hollywood.
And apparently it was about being transgender, I guess, anyway.
There are directors in Hollywood who are now opening AI-based studios to look at moving.
Darren Aronofsky is doing that right now.
Basically, they're taking the same logic that everybody else is. They said, you may not be out of a job because of AI for now, but you'll be out of a job because of somebody
who knows how to use AI. That's a stupid idea.
Sorry. AI is advancing too quickly.
There's going to be a 19-year-old kid who, actually, I'll put it this way.
There's a 13-year-old right now at home sitting at their computer, and they've pulled up Suno and VO, and they're using MidJourney, and they're using ChatGPT.
And they're just playing with prompts and they're writing stories and they're
making pictures. And I guarantee you some young kid has already made a comic book.
Oh, for sure. Because you have unlimited image prompts. So not unlimited on chat GPT at a certain
point, it says, please wait a few minutes, too many requests, but you can seriously do hundreds
of images a day. I've like when I'm, I've made AI comics. Are you talking about like 4.0 or 4.5?
The current GPT, whatever it is. Okay. It's able to make comic strips. So I made one that's gone massively viral. It's AOC at a rally, raising her fist and Bernie's behind her. The next one is both
of them walking to an airplane. The next one is them sitting at the airplane, smiling. That's all
it is. And the next one is the jet flying overhead in the ring when people look up at it. And there's
no words and it's not insulting her in any way.
And it took me maybe like a half hour to make.
And now, I didn't put credit on it because it was AI.
I didn't put my name on it.
But it's been retweeted to millions of times or whatever.
There's that phenomenon.
But ultimately, I'm not someone who spends all day
trying to make comics.
I did that passively.
I think I was doing it during the show.
Some little kid right now is day trying to make comics. I did that passively. I think I was doing it during the show.
Some little kid right now is learning how to use AI.
Yeah.
And they're going to be tracking the latest releases and what the latest releases do.
And in five years, when we have masterful systems, these companies, these directors are going to be like, we make movies in Hollywood doing this.
And there's going to be some 19 year old kid who's going to be like, you have no idea what
you're doing.
I've been doing this for five years.
Watch this.
And he's going to write a prompt. And there's going to be some weird trick no one who's going to be like, you have no idea what you're doing. I've been doing this for five years. Watch this. And he's going to write a prompt.
And there's going to be some weird trick no one thought of where he's like, if you double hyphenate
the space between it, it actually will create a difference between the background and the
foreground. Watch this. And then it's going to make a perfect scene. And he's going to be like,
actually, one of the ways you can transfer a character between videos to do the prompt,
you have to set a parameter. So watch this. And then he puts like object character identified as this, store it in your database, reprompt.
So one of the problems right now with VO is if I say make a man who looks like this, make the video.
If I then say this same man who looks like this is now doing something else, it will make a totally different person.
So there's going to be advancements in AI where some young kid today is learning how to do this better than any of the studios can.
It's the blockbuster phenomenon.
And then he's going to be better at this.
They're going to have a big studio, but he's going to be on YouTube, and he's going to have a bunch of movies, feature length, and he's going to release it for like $1.99.
And then people are going to be like, dude, you've got to see Vision Mobile.
This kid made this movie.
It's called Vision Mobile. Go watch it.
Skibbity Toilet. Hollywood
bought the rights to Skibbity Toilet.
They're making a Michael
Bay Skibbity Toilet movie. I will be there opening day.
Michael Bay. Exploding
Toilet. It's not going to be Skibbity Toilet.
No, no, no. But the point is that
you're saying the same concept, right?
He's going to monetize
it in his own way.
Hollywood's Skibbity Toilet, it's going to be some 50-year-old guy being like,
so what did you buy?
And they're like,
there's a guy whose head pops out of the toilet
and there are dudes with cameras for heads
and there are big heads and they fight.
And he's going to go,
so who are the characters?
The Rock is going to play a special agent
who walks through a portal into Skibbity Toilet World.
Like when they ruined Jumanji by remaking it.
Oh, they ruined it. Sarah loves Like when they ruined Jumanji by remaking it.
Sarah loves the rock version of Jumanji.
We watched it the other night for the first time.
Nobody's perfect.
What a way to insult someone.
They made it a video game. They didn't need to.
They literally just made it like, I found a board game.
And then they were like, let's play.
The spin-offs too of toys and things that'll come from all of these things.
It's insane. We just talked about what's that YouTuber, right?
That kid that's worth, like, what is he worth now?
Mr. Beast?
No, no, no.
Ryan's Toy Review or whatever it is.
Kid's worth, like, hundreds of millions of dollars or some ungodly amount of number for opening other people's toys that are made about movies that are obnoxious and a complete waste of time. You know, it's going to be wild because AI will craft a better episode of Joe Rogan than
Joe Rogan will.
Don't say that.
It's true.
I know, but don't ruin it yet.
Well, like, so I was talking about this online.
I'm online on X.
Everything's online, right?
And a bunch of developmentally disabled individuals told me I was wrong, but they're stupid, so welcome to the internet.
And I was pointing out that if we get rid of IP laws, China is going to start mass-producing Joe Rogan experience and then pumping them out.
And then you're not going to know which ones.
No, it won't matter because people are going to be like, this episode is awesome.
You're correct, right?
I shouldn't be dismissive. My point is, I feel like most people who watch an episode of Rogan are not going to Joe's
channel to see the latest episode.
Right.
They're seeing it pop up on YouTube's front page.
Yes.
And they're clicking on that one there.
So they're going to be on social media and they're going to see Joe Rogan featuring,
you know, Phil Labonte and they're going to click it.
Right.
And it's going to be indistinguishable, hilarious, two hours long, and it'll be made by China,
and Joe can't compete with that.
Nobody can compete with that, though.
Exactly. That's insanity.
And what's gonna happen is,
someone's gonna be like, that episode of Rogue One
that you really like is not real,
and they're gonna be like, don't know, don't care, man.
Leave me alone, it's fun.
The saddest part about that is it shows you
that when you consume content the way we do,
a lot of
times you're completely divorced from the idea that somebody's sharing something true with them
of themselves right so if uh joe if there's joe rogan starring you know with phil labonte as the
guest and there's some crazy opinions that people thought were really really interesting what does
it say about us as a culture if like we don't even care if it's real or not we just care that
the opinion is mildly interesting,
not that it was actually real or something
that was formed through somebody's real world experience.
How about this? The launch of
VO3 just ended
the news.
Dan Bongino said we're going to
release surveillance footage of the Epstein
MDC and
or I'm sorry, was it
MCD? I don't know.
The Metropolitan Correctional Facility, I guess.
Everybody
said it's going to be an AI video. You think?
I mean, no, no, no, no. Hold on.
Everybody is saying it will be.
And I mean that, not literally everybody,
but on X, the responses
overwhelmingly are he's going to release
an AI video because if they weren't, they would
have put out a long time ago. Right. So just because VO3 exists, nobody believes it anymore. Like nobody
believes the releases. So what happens now if Donald Trump literally goes on to Fifth Avenue
and shoots a guy? Everyone's going to say fake. Don't believe it. I don't think that I don't
disagree with your point, but I don't think that it was necessary for VO3 to exist for people to believe their preconceived notions before they believe other things.
There was still a there was there's still a large group of people who are like.
Brandon Strat's a great example. Donald Trump made fun of disabled man by putting his arm in his chest and going, oh, and the poor man, how could he do that?
And then someone showed him the video where Trump does that all the time to make fun of
everybody.
Right.
And he realized he wasn't making fun of the guy with a disability.
It's just he makes fun of everybody that way.
How do you change someone's mind like Daniel Negrano?
So are you familiar with Negrano?
I believe so.
Canadian superstar.
He's a poker legend and one of the best in the world.
I didn't know about the poker legend deal, though. What's that? I didn't know he's a poker legend and one of the best in the world. I didn't know about the poker legend deal, though.
What's that?
I didn't know he was a poker legend.
Neil Negreanu was one of the, he's a poker kid, one of the most famous poker players.
I'm a huge fan.
He went on the show.
It was great.
And he told us this story where the whole time he thought Trump called Nazis fine people.
And he saw the video where Trump said they were very fine people on both sides.
He believed it.
And then one of his buddies, who's a big poker star and watches this show, was a fan, said, you are wrong. Watch the video. He was like, I've already seen the videos. Watch.
Finally, he put the phone down, pressed play and slid over and said, watch. And he went, fine.
And then he saw Trump say, and not the neo-Nazis and white nationalists, because they should be
condemned totally. And instantly Daniel went, I didn't know that. I thought I saw the video,
but I didn't. Now what happens when now he goes,
watch the video and it's Trump going
and not the neo-Nazis and white nationalists.
They should be condemned totally.
And Negreanu goes, I didn't realize that.
And then to his left, a guy goes, watch this video.
And it's Trump going, just kidding.
I love the Nazis.
They're the best.
And it's like, which one's real?
He's going to be like, guys, I have no idea.
Well, I don't even think it's going to matter, right?
People are going to pay attention to the thing that goes with their narrative no matter what.
That's what's going to happen.
And this is a point I brought up.
The bigger fear that I have with AI is not that someone makes a fake video of Donald Trump dancing on a bed with strippers.
It's that someone's going to take the best example.
There's the video where trump says
and not the neo-nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally
someone's going to take that not specifically this moment but something like it and they're
going to change they to some and so trump will go and not the new not neo-nazis and white
nationalists because some should be condemned totally. And that's a subtle change where people will watch, liberals will watch it and they'll go,
I get what you're saying, but he said some. He was defending some of these people. And you know,
he didn't say something that they, I saw the video. I have it right here.
And it's that small of a difference that it's going to make all of it.
And it's a moderately low resolution video. His mouth moves ever so slightly. You're not
going to be able to tell if it's AI.
And they're going to say, you megacultists
believe fake news. I've seen the video. It's right here.
He said some. And you
will never be able to change their mind.
So how do you get around that? Because if that's where we're going...
You can't. I mean, we're already
there in a way when it comes to the news.
Because people will read articles and they read into
it. Like I said, lying by structure.
They put all the important facts into the bottom paragraph of whatever you're reading.
They've already been manipulating the information that you need for years
in a very analog way, all that's going to do.
And all that really matters now is that truth is going to be irrelevant.
Here's a headline for you.
Brett Dasafik kicked my dog.
Well, you said Fik, so I don't know who this guy is.
What?
You didn't say my last name right.
Oh, it's Vich?
No, it is Vick, but you said Fick.
Oh, okay.
Brett Dasavik kicked my dog.
And then I'll write, it was a shocking revelation for me.
I can't believe what I had witnessed.
Brett, who I considered to be a good friend,
walked up to my dog and kicked him square in the nuts. My dog
started freaking out and ran, seemed to be
injured, and I chased after him. Then I'll write
300 words explaining it and say, it was a strange
dream that night.
But you know, it was one
of vivid exploration
of wondering what it would be like
if a man actually kicked my dog.
He yelled, Bob Barker
told you to have your dog spayed and neutered.
But you didn't listen.
But you didn't listen.
You're out of warnings.
So obviously they don't go that egregious, but they may as well.
Because like the headline we just talked about with Palantir, Trump's going to compile data on every Americans.
And then as it gets through, it's like he never said he was going to do it.
He isn't doing it.
Palantir hasn't commented on whether they're going to do it or not, but we think he will. And that one was a fairly well, like well hidden version of it,
where they, even in the early paragraphs, they kind of make connections that aren't really there.
A lot of times the facts just completely contradict it and they bury it in the bottom paragraph.
My favorite is how they do fake fact checks and it'll be like Donald Trump will rescue a box of
puppies from a burning building.
Everyone will share the video. It's incredible.
And then Snopes will write, did
Donald Trump rescue a bunch of puppies
from a burning building on Sunday
morning? And so then
they'll put a big false.
Donald Trump did not rescue puppies from a
burning building on Sunday morning. They'll write
a thousand words at the very bottom. It'll say, well,
Donald Trump did rescue a bunch of puppies
on Saturday morning.
It was not Sunday.
Liberals will then hear
that Donald Trump saved puppies,
click the link,
and see the story assuming,
and they'll say it never happened.
It says false.
Not realizing that Snopes
creates fake stories
that are similar to the actual claims
to debunk them.
It's called death by hyperlink.
Oh.
So they can hyperlink you to stories
that you think contradict them, but they don't.
God, you guys are just as bad as us.
Canadians?
Oh, yeah.
Well, at least Americans can watch Timcast.
I mean, listen,
that's why we have to come down to Timcast
to actually participate.
It's the only way.
I'm going to start paying
to advertise my videos in Canada.
Please do it.
It's really cheap. Yo, it paying to advertise my videos in Canada. Please do it. It's really cheap.
Yo, it's one cent per view in Canada.
Yeah, I'm aware.
One cent.
So a dollar gets you 100 views.
So, you know,
I think Timcast IRL
should be the most popular show in Canada.
I can spend a relatively small amount of money
compared to my marketing budgets
and make it so that Canadians
are like, I can't take these Tim Gass
ads anymore. It's going to be
worth it. You should do it. I'll just run one
on my show for free just for entertainment.
There you go. Happily. Remember that guy
on YouTube who was like, knowledge.
I got a lot of knowledge.
He spent an insane amount of money
on YouTube ads to the point
where every... that's crazy.
Yeah, it's six though.
You can't forget it.
He must have spent millions of dollars in one month.
Do you think?
Yes.
Because I know how Google ads works.
Right.
To be fair, at the time it was a lot cheaper.
The competition's getting a bit more fierce.
But yo, he probably spent millions of dollars.
I mean, but great investment.
We're talking about it right now.
I know.
Ty, I think his name was something.
He's made a lot of money off it.
It worked for him.
I mean, part of the conversation.
Tons of people were like, Ty Lopez.
But I mean, think about it.
If you were a random nobody, and one day you walk down the street and trip over a bag of a million bucks,
and the cops are like, and the IRS, they all say, look, man, it's yours.
I guess nobody claimed it.
We don't know who it is.
Congratulations.
You have a million dollars.
Blasting that on Google being like, you can be rich like me. We don't know whose it is. Congratulations, you have a million dollars. Blasting that on Google being like,
you can be rich like me, it's going to work.
Because let's say you get 10,000 people
to join your $10 a month program,
you're making a million bucks a year.
Oh, easily.
And so that million dollars,
blast it out on YouTube with all this ads of like,
you want to be like me and be rich with knowledge?
You got to sign up to my program.
10,000 is all you need.
Don't we have a lot of bros on Instagram
doing that right now anyway?
I mean, like Andrew Tate's the king of this.
Well, him and like Andy Elliott,
aren't they all like around?
Who's that?
Andy Elliott?
I don't know Andy Elliott.
Is he a Canadian thing?
No, he's an American thing.
He's a real piece of work.
Andy Elliott.
Real piece of work, huh?
He's a real piece of work.
Yeah, he recently blocked me.
Sales trainer and often referred to as the car salesman turned millionaire. of Andy Elliott. Real piece of work. Real piece of work. Yeah. He recently blocked sales
trainer and often referred
to as the car salesman
turned millionaire.
Please don't put him on
there.
He exploits his kids and
I have a real issue.
He's got millions of
followers.
I don't know who he is.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He likes to put his nine
year old and 12 year old
on the internet.
I got no beef, but I'll
shout out PBD.
Oh, I do.
It's fine.
Patrick Bet David does
these seminars for like
10 or $20,000 to be rich.
It's like if you want to learn000 to be rich. It's like,
if you want to learn how to be successful and rich and,
and you know what works is he's a tall suit wearing guy worth half a
billion dollars.
And so people want to spend the money to figure it out.
I'm pretty sure Andy has spent the money to hang out with him.
Like he's bragged about it.
Like I'm not exaggerating.
Hang out with PBD.
Yeah.
I think,
I think Patrick Beck, David spends a lot of money on getting big guests for shows. I he's bragged about it. Like I'm not exaggerating. Hang out with PBD? Yeah. I think Patrick Beck David
spends a lot of money
on getting big guests for shows.
I'm not dragging him for it.
Like you got Tom Brady
and so he contacts their agency
and then when,
and people see that
and they're like,
I wish I had the money
to be able to do that.
Like can I hire Tom Brady
to come to my event?
Holy crap.
Well, I mean,
it gets you the views
and then the views turn into more
and then it just continues to pile.
I get it.
It's like when you get a big guest, it's a big deal.
It's not nothing small.
But if you have the cash to pay for it and that's the only way to get the platform up and kicking, I mean.
You know, this is why I don't believe that most of the people on the right are grifters because we don't pay guests.
And prominent conservatives come on this show with no problem, but liberals all expect to be paid.
Really?
And the conservatives want to come and argue with you.
Big love that.
But conservatives actually care about the issue
and want a chance to speak about it,
whereas liberals tell us to contact their agents
and then, you know, shout out to the Krasensteins
because they don't do that.
Okay.
Despite the fact I disagree with them
and think they're a little smarmy and, you know,
we can argue.
I'm going to give them the respect of
when we reach out to them and ask them
if they'd like to be involved in events, they say, absolutely, we'll try and find dates.
There are a lot of other high-profile liberals who are like, contact my agent for my rates.
Well, then we just delete.
It's not worth it.
Liberals are fake, largely.
Not all of them, but many of them.
I mean, my own personal experience with you guys has been a lot of fun.
It's been very interesting.
It's been very different than a lot of shows, but I appreciate it.
How is it different?
Uh,
so it depends on the show.
Uh,
they'll like,
like there's big,
big,
big shows.
So be like,
I want you to come on the show,
fly yourself in,
charge everything.
And then they make,
you know,
20,
30,
40,
$50,000 on your views.
So that's,
let's talk about this.
Tim cast IRL.
We don't pay people to come on the show,
but we do pay for their
travel and accommodation
to come on the show
I was so appreciative of that
I was shocked
I only had that happen
one other time
and it was Lex
that was it
it is insanely expensive
yeah I mean
I'm coming from Canada
so it's not like it's cheap
and I remember having
this conversation
and they were like
oh no no don't worry about it
we'll sort it out
and I was like
what's happening
I remember when they were
telling me about the approval
for the flight.
For me?
Yeah.
I said, you pick the flights.
I don't want to be.
Canadian to US flights are insanely expensive.
I know.
Yeah.
And then they were like, we need approval on this.
And I was like, ah.
And I was like, who's coming from Canada?
I'm so sorry.
Domestic flights are cheaper.
No, but we spend it.
We've flown people from the UK.
I know, but that's a big deal. We've flown people back to australia oh that's now that is way worse than canada in my long shot but i i mean i appreciate when people when people like don't want to
acknowledge i think it's a big deal when people do that i mean you're sitting here expecting
something from me and i'm expecting something we're taking each other's time if people are
going to show up and be honest about it, it's appreciated and people should know that. Otherwise, people just seem like dicks.
It is pretty wild.
Almost every single show, probably 99%, do not cover travel and accommodation.
You said Lex Friedman did?
Well, this was in 2021.
I went down.
This was during when the C word was crazy.
And in Canada, we weren't allowed to leave unless it was very strict.
And I was involved in the Afghan pullout and he wanted to talk about it quite aggressively so he's like can you come down
I said yeah so I booked everything and then he goes afterwards he goes oh please send me your
your paypal or your whatever we want to make sure that we cover what you did to come down for us
what that was the first time I was like okay so he's not AI he's not AI. He's not AI. And I mean, he hasn't AI.
I can see why people think he's AI.
Rogan flew me out.
Yeah?
A couple of, I think a couple of times,
not every single one.
I think the last time I went on Joe's show,
I was like, don't worry about it.
But the first time I went on, he paid for everything.
That's the only show I haven't done yet.
So I don't have reference with him.
But any of the people I found, like, if you ask, a lot of them will.
Like, I think if you're going a certain distance or they know they're going to make numbers on either the YouTube or whatever,
I think that most of them will or they'll offer some of it or dinner or something.
But there's quite a few that just expect you to give up their time, which is interesting.
So Lex isn't AI then?
He's not.
No, he's just ASMR for sleep.
No, listen.
No, he's for sure worse special.
But you can feel him when you hug him.
He's a real hard human.
He's a real person.
He's hard too.
Okay.
He's robotic.
I heard that Lex's show is basically, it's the podcast version of ASMR for sleep.
I talked to him for five and a half hours.
I had no problem with it.
He seemed perfect.
But it's super chill.
You know what I mean?
It's the most calm...
It's like you talk like this and...
Yeah, it's easier if you're a person like this, though.
If he goes off, you just go off.
Hello, everyone.
If he's getting you tired, you just go.
My name is Tim Poole, and welcome to TimCast IRL.
Just lay your head back, close your eyes.
That would make me...
Think beautiful thoughts
yes
and then once you fall asleep
we'll leave the show
running for five hours
to create an extended
watch time
so the YouTube algorithm
will promote
the show
this is gonna be five hours
of you snoring
this is why people
a lot of people complain
about how they'll like
be watching YouTube
and then when they fall asleep
they'll wake up with
Lex Fridman on
it's a real thing
I wasn't joking.
No, but I believe it.
How did we get here?
But it's the podcast version of Elsagate, in a sense.
I'm not trying to be a dick to Lex, because he's cool.
What I'm saying is, like, you are not jarred or shocked
by the tone of his show.
It's very, very calm and relaxing.
So when people are falling asleep with it on, YouTube keeps playing more of it, generating a massive watch time promoting his show. It's very, very calm and relaxing. So when people are falling asleep with it on,
YouTube keeps playing
more of it,
generating a massive
watch time promoting
his show,
and it works out.
We, on the other hand,
are screaming and
banging gals on the table
in the middle of the night.
I was very excited
about this.
The rubber mallet?
I don't know why,
but I've gone to some shows
and it's a lot of knives,
it's a lot of violence,
and then I haven't had
a mallet yet,
so this was my...
The sword's here.
It's rubber.
I'm excited for the swords.
We had the sword conversation briefly.
They're real swords.
I know.
Can I see them after?
Yes.
I'm very excited for the swords.
Guns too, bro.
Well, I mean, I haven't...
We're not allowed guns at home.
We also have guns.
It's like a knife, right?
So...
We have chickens.
Lots of them.
I fucking love chickens.
I mean, I freaking love...
Chickens are good people.
Children love chickens.
I'm sorry.
I almost made it the whole time.
Unreal.
I know.
Listen, there's a lot of effort that went into like cognitively making sure that that
was not every other word.
So when I say I have a child, but I don't swear at home.
Oh, really?
Just walk in the house and it's like swears.
How old is they?
He is nine and he's he knows he's a he.
I was using the singular they because i didn't know
the gender no he's super he um but i on my show i swear but on my other show i don't but when i
come on other people's show they know who i am so they're like and i got your email and it was like
do not swear and i went i immediately started sweating i was like i just feel anxiety i did
i feel like the producers who are booking people are more serious about it than we are.
I always say people like, we don't swear in the show because sometimes people are watching
their living room, their kids are there.
I totally respect it.
And I think it's fine.
I'm just saying the odd time.
You know, I had that happen when I was-
It's totally respected, but I'm still going to swear.
No, but I tried.
It's like I was in the military, man.
It's baked into me.
I can swear in a different language if you prefer.
But even when I did, like when ARC reached out to me and I was doing the interview to speak at ARC, they said to me, Kelsey, do you have anything where you don't swear that we could take a look at?
And I was like, yes, Ted, but they won't post it.
So I don't know what to tell you.
We should just move the podcast to 10 p.m. so that half the people fall asleep while it's on and then it boosts our watch time.
Have you tried that yet? I mean, that's the way to do it.m. so that half the people fall asleep while it's on and then it boosts our watch time. Have you tried that yet?
I mean, that's the way to do it.
Look, man.
Halfway through,
everyone's just sleeping.
Our sponsors are like,
for some reason,
all the mid-roll ads
just don't work.
It's like, no, they're sleeping.
Maybe Lex can sell ads
for, like,
Tempur-Pedic mattresses.
I've had people complain to me
about how pissed off they are
that they keep getting
recommended autoplay
Lex Fridman.
And you know,
it's definitely not my episode.
I'll tell you,
I'm going to say this.
And I,
I,
you know,
I say this with,
with all due respect to Lex,
I think he's cool.
I've got no beef,
but in the industry,
there's a decent amount of people who think that he's a fed and that,
and he's a plant in the industry because of how much he's promoted and how
much they don't like his show.
Really? This is the, don't they like it with the show he's promoted and how much they don't like his show. Really?
What don't they like about the show?
Is it the tone?
Is it just the tone?
To me, it was just that I never listened to it, but I would be incessantly recommended it despite the fact that I didn't listen to it.
And I've heard this from a dozen plus people at high positions in the podcast industry, audio networks, who say things to me like, I not gonna you know and and again i want to stress
like i'm not trying to start a beef with lex or anything nothing like that but this is something
that people have experienced so i do want to at least talk about it and by all means i don't know
if it's true or whatever i feel bad because lex is a good dude but i've been at like industry events
where i've had people who work in the podcast distribution industry saying,
why is Lex Fridman getting promoted so often on YouTube?
And then I just laugh and I'm like, I've heard this before.
I have no idea.
And then there are some other more personal things I won't mention.
I'm going to stop myself from talking about it.
But there are other people who have big podcasts.
There's ad buyers.
And I've been asked this seemingly unprompted in conversations around
ad sales and competition in the market. And I'll have like a guy who does sales be like,
why do you think it is that Lex Fridman is doing so well? And then I'll be like,
he's got good guests and interesting conversations. And they go, absolutely not.
They're like, we track podcasts. I've had one guy explaining to me, we track podcasts and we look
like we analyze podcasts for what we deem to be
like high attention points and things like this. Engaging. Right. And when they're looking for ad
sales, when they're trying to determine what point of a show they want to sell, a lot of people want
to sell around the 20 minute or 30 minute mark. Yep. And they're like, we don't see that same
thing in Lex's shows, but it's working working really really well despite what our analysis shows I know
his ad guy I know him very well and he seems to be like he's performing like it's unbelievable what
he says to me I it kind of blows my mind and he was one of the he's just good Lex has just got a
good show he's I mean he's got great guests and I went after I went on his right after Jocko and
it's a very different audience like just very very, very different audience base, right?
So it was very interesting to see who kind of followed over.
But ad-wise, I mean, it performed significantly better,
significantly better than the Jocko episode.
There was a conspiracy theory that Lex coming from MIT
is an intelligence asset.
And I think this is all stupid.
He's just a robot.
No, he has robots in his house.
An actual MIT product. There's two conspiracies.
There's a conspiracy that Sean
Ryan is intelligence and
that his show is... Sean was intelligence
so that tracks. And so people are saying
industry people
say they find his show to
be compared to the big
shows that have risen up over
a long period of time,
it doesn't track with their analyses of how big his show got, how quickly?
So I had him on my show,
and I think it was, he was on,
I mean, my show's been on for five years,
and then I had him on my show,
and within, I think it was in two,
three months of him being on my show,
he was maybe episode 10,
and it just went boom.
And I mean, look, I'm in the veteran space, so veteran shows, they do pick certain people, especially if the Navy SEAL is the host. months of him being on my show he was maybe episode 10 and it just went boom and i mean look
i'm in the veteran space so veteran shows they do pick like certain people especially for the navy
seal is the host if there's a navy seal host it's gonna pop and we see it every time if there's a
special operator host it pops black rifle all of them they pop they pop they pop and i do wonder
because the conspiracy theory no and i'm listen i'm not i don't even know that it's a conspiracy
theory i'm in the same space as them there was um I don't know how true this was Brett maybe you know that the U.S. government was funding
war games video games like yeah pretty sure that's true yeah they were they were providing uh
resources for video game development of first-person shooters based on war declassified
operations being used for maps and yeah. Yeah, it boosted recruitment.
And so the conspiracy theory is that these shows are not really as popular as people think,
but they're propped up to boost military culture and engagement and recruitment.
Okay, so that's not a shock to me.
Nobody should be surprised by that.
Like I said, I'm a combat veteran.
I've worked with these guys.
I've been on all of their shows except for Sean's. Remember that woman
who was in the military who was
posting all that bait content
for young men? Oh, are you talking about the Israeli
one? Yes. Yeah, the psyop. Don't
fall for it, guys. You're right. Those
memes were great. When you're mean to
Israel, that's who you're being mean to. And it's like this
moment. And there's an American woman
who works in psyops and she posts
all this like suggestive sexual content.
And then there was one video talking about barrack bunnies or something like this.
Oh, yeah.
And recruiting numbers go up.
And it's all fake.
It's propaganda.
In general, you at least see the through line as to why anything involving special forces operators would do well,
because people are fascinated by people who are the best in their field, who have these incredible stories. So even if it was bought it in some way, you can understand
where the interest would actually come from. I'm not saying that there is an interest,
but I've served with special operators and I know people who do the same things who just don't have
the title and they don't get near the recognition or the anything. And they have incredible shows
with incredible guests, with unbelievable editing that aren't propped up by a bunch of money in a
bunch of places. Like Sean's got bought out really really early very very quickly i don't
know how many podcasts like that have had it happen often and i like sean i talk to him regularly i
think he's a great dude all i'm saying is that we do see this in the veteran space that there are
shows that do get propped and that are do that still have people connected within the special
operations and or still connected within intelligence services with three letter agencies.
That's not not a fact. I mean, Sean's still connected. Everyone's still connected.
For God's sakes, what's the guy that's going on the tangents right now?
Oh, my God. Eric Prince. He's got a documentary or something coming out like he's still heavily connected to the defense network.
Like that's not not something just because he's talking about going to Haiti.
This is the CIA have a YouTube channel.
The CIA has.
Do they have you like is there like just the CIA cast where they just talk about life at Langley?
Probably not officially.
And I don't know for sure.
I actually don't believe any of the conspiracy theories.
I think the reality is just like.
People are fascinated by special operators.
It's new.
That's just it uh new shows of a
variety of uh for a variety of reasons can catch the algorithm and ride an elevator to the top
right there was a woman who uh youtube called it a glitch she made a van life video with her pet
snake or something okay and she made two videos and got three million subs and you and everyone
was like what is happening how is this possible
and i believe youtube issued a statement saying basically they changed the algorithm periodically
to try and they want people to stay on the platform longer and it just so happened the
recent change she hit every mark fell right it was a hole in one and so the algorithm was
programmed and it put her on the front page for literally
everyone everywhere.
Set for life.
Well, no, she basically spiraled out of control.
I'm pretty sure she's like...
She wasn't ready for that.
Here's a secret for people.
I cannot.
No one can. You cannot
walk down the street randomly
in, say, New Yorkork grab a random guy and
say we're gonna put you on in a movie with who's gonna be seen by 500 million people around the
world it doesn't work no they're it's it's it's not gonna it's gonna overwhelm them it's a it's
a culture shift it's a it causes a psychological shock like winning the lottery when they're not
ready to own that have that much money and people don't know what to do with this money.
It's crazy how people don't realize how expensive things scale up to be and how much you can spend, how quickly you can spend it.
And so a lot of people in the lottery and then they're like, I can give someone 50 grand.
And then a month later, they have zero.
Yeah.
Right.
How did that happen?
The podcast version would be you.
You're Haley Welch, Hawk Tua.
And then you end up doing a crypto scam and
then everything yeah what is okay i was talking about she's gone right like two days i think she
was back to putting content up but it just it's it was never the same she she missed the mark on
that she missed the boat on that she had terrible advice i mean she had an opportunity with that
platform to really truly like grow something substantial and like she just got caught up in
it because they had the paul brothers backing on
their on their podcast network see that's that's unfortunate to me when that kind of success can
happen to someone who's not prepared for it it can spiral them out of control or they can actually
turn it into something pretty incredible i mean it's not to say that that happened to uh jordan
peterson but i mean after he exploded i mean he handled it pretty damn well but he had the
psychological wherewithal to actually handle it and the team around him.
Whereas people like her who just on the street become the people, it doesn't work.
Well, I mean, a lot of the people that end up being really successful have strong work ethics that allow them to fall into a pattern of working hard, knowing how to capitalize on it. But if somebody just gets lucky and hits a hole in one and their video goes on the front of every YouTube channel,
you would have had to have also had very good luck
to also be the type of person who could have that kind of windfall
fall in your lap and then capitalize on it.
But if you don't work to get there, it's a lot harder.
Dude, success is preparation meets opportunity.
Of course.
Yeah.
I don't know that Haley has anything of,
of significant substance.
I was going to say of substance.
I mean,
that,
that doesn't always matter,
especially if you're in the female podcast space and you're talking about
female issues,
it's not necessarily about having something super interesting to say.
It's about commiserating around the things that affect your life because
women like podcasts.
Let me,
I want to explain something too about these conspiracies.
Easy with the blanket term.
I think those podcasts make me want to jump on things.
There is a functional infinite number of podcasts on YouTube right now.
Right.
YouTube or the CIA doesn't need to recruit someone and then say,
we want you to run our covert propaganda arm where you promote these ideas.
What they do is they go into their database and say,
here's a seemingly infinite number of podcasts.
We're going to use an algorithm, an AI.
We want somebody who is pro-Israel, pro-military, pro-intervention in Ukraine, calm, marketable.
And that's going to be like, here's seven channels that do this.
And they're going to say, put this on the front page of YouTube for everyone right now.
Right.
And then three months later, some guy's got a million subs.
He's like, wow, people love my channel.
Yeah, I mean, YouTube hates me, so I can't.
Oh, you had Chris on.
Oh, good.
That was a while ago.
That was March.
No, no, no, no, no.
He's a friend of mine.
We're from the same town.
Yeah, he's cool.
Yeah, he's a great guy.
That was an episode from March.
Oh, I love that, though.
Yeah.
That makes me happy.
It was right before we went to Australia and got arrested.
And got arrested.
And got arrested again for the umpteenth time.
For nothing.
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For now, let's grab your rumble rants and super
chats and see
what y'all have to say now i know why you guys told me not to give me a second shot of the photo
because oh my god of what oh you think the pictures of people oh it's bad you think you look bad oh i
don't care i know i was told it doesn't matter but the point is i just noticed it thank you for that
all right we got change wilder always the first uh to super chat to rumble rant i keep saying Thank you than that. It was like March when they found this guy. And if those aren't familiar, an IT guy working for the Defense Intelligence Agency, the United States DOD, was trying to sell secrets to a foreign government in exchange for citizenship.
And the FBI intercepted him where he explained that he had disdain for the Trump administration and was willing to sell these secrets for citizenship elsewhere.
Evil people exist.
Shimo says,
stay at her mom's,
consider this a lifetime disability,
and men get a job.
Taxes pay for it only if you're married.
What do you think, Phil?
What?
Yeah.
I think that I need you to send another Rumble rant that clarifies what you're asking.
Shimo says, separation anxiety can be considered
an issue that people can use in order to stay at home
with their babies. Stay at her mom's
consider this a lifetime
disability. Is stay at her
mom's a person? Is that like a...
I have no idea what that means.
I don't know.
Okay. I don't think that
separation anxiety should be considered a lifetime disability.
Yeah, because it's definitely not.
This is a place to start, I guess.
This is a really good Super Chats.
NNY says, Tim, Brett is your employee and you have dominion over him.
Command him to not only watch Star Trek, but to enjoy it as well.
The look on his face is great.
Dominion.
Never, not once, not a day in my life.
You can't make me.
I do want to say just real quick, guys.
Can I pay you?
Totally as an aside.
I'd rather be unemployed.
As an aside, guys, we have a new announcement for HR policy.
Watching Star Trek The Next Generation is going to be a job requirement for all staff and contractors moving forward.
I mean, it's a good show, so that's easy ask.
Patriot Paladin says Dodger Stadium was flooded after that drag queen performance mocked God and Christ at the Dodgers game.
It did.
It happened. I remember that.
There we go again. That's just one of those moments.
Crazy.
Black Pringle says,
so Tim, you must have missed the story of Sodom and Gomorrah.
Oh, no. Yeah, but then
didn't the Dodgers win the World Series
like the year after that, though?
What did Seamus say? If God doesn't
smite the United States, he owes Sodom and Gomorrah
an apology? Yes.
I don't know if he feels good about saying that.
I was like, dude, Seamus, geez.
Yeah, I think he was saying it's someone else.
It's someone else's quote.
I'm not sure.
Yeah, I mean, look, there's some validity to that.
Granted, like, I think Sodom and Gomorrah, everybody was kind of rapey.
They wanted those angels, bro.
You know?
So this one's bait, obviously.
Rapey.
What is this?
Phil Loco Raptor.
Phil Loco Raptor.
I understand what he was trying to do, but it doesn't say that.
It says Phil Loco Raptor.
He says, Tim doesn't understand middle class struggles because he has never been middle class.
The excuse of leftists as to, people need to understand this about leftists.
When I went to Occupy Wall Street and I was sleeping outside and had very little money and was largely broke,
these Occupy activists would go, see, man, you're the perfect example
of what's wrong with this country.
Like a young guy, you're smart,
you're dedicated and passionate.
Where's your success?
Where's your American dream, man?
And then Time Magazine features me in person of the year
and I get promoted on the front page,
get tens of thousands of followers
and a bunch of magazine requests.
And the same people go,
Tim Pool is just a white kid
who was born rich with a silver spoon in his mouth.
There it is.
How old were you when they made that comment about where is your success?
Cracker.
25.
And so at Occupy Wall Street in October,
I'm walking around, sleeping in the park,
and this is exactly what they were saying.
They were like, see, people like you, man, drop out of high school.
There's no American dream.
The wealthy are funneling all the cash away while paying the lobbyists.
You're the perfect example of everything until I became successful.
And then I was silver spoon privileged.
And this is what they do.
Like these people live in this world where they can't succeed because in their mind,
the only reason I'm
successful is because I was born rich, which I was born poor. My family lost their house in a
bankruptcy and I was homeless several periods, several points in my life. They assume almost
everybody who has any money inherited it from their parents. Right. And they're not willing
to hear the story before that either. No, you're successful now. You're the guy now. So it's
obvious. And then you get people who go, yeah, well, you're the exception.
You're lucky.
And I'm like, so weird that everybody who succeeded did similar things.
This is why there are people who pay for seminars from PBD.
Because they don't believe.
They don't believe those lies of you can't succeed.
They see a male success.
And they say, I need to go to those events and hear what he has to say.
Now, not every ticket for Patrick by David's show is 20 grand.
Those are like VIP elite packages where you can get in a private room with him and like Tom Brady or something.
But people want to go and learn.
And while certainly some people might have criticisms of PBD in those seminars that he does. I don't care about that. My point is individuals who are willing to spend and invest and try and figure it out at the very least,
how to be better people and be successful are on the right path.
Yeah. I have infinitely more respect for a person who's going out and seeking a way to better their
life than somebody who just assumes that they've been destined to whatever hell they find themselves
in now and say that everything is rigged against them. The idea of like radical personal responsibility where you take extreme ownership of your actions
is something that I think actually separates a lot of the people on the left and the right.
Do you have to pay Jocko every time you say that?
No.
I just want to make sure.
I know Jocko Malk is the best protein powder ever made.
We've got like 12 bags of Jocko protein powder downstairs.
Have you tried it?
I prefer something a lot cleaner, like Noble, which is like made in Texas and like nose to tail and doesn't have any fillers.
Like I'm really.
Like Jocko?
No comment.
You're not a fan of.
He's got.
I don't like it.
There's no Splenda in it.
There's no.
No, no, no, no.
I've tried it.
I'm not a big fan of it. It doesn't work with my stomach. That's why I use it. Oh, man's I don't like it I don't there's no Splenda in it there's no no no I've tried it I'm not a big fan of it doesn't work with my stomach that's why I use it oh man I can't
stand it's the only that's the only I swear by it never met the guy I don't know the guy he's never
sponsored us or anything I was looking for non-Splenda proteins and they all have Splenda
it's disgusting and then I looked it up and Jocko's came up and I looked at the ingredients
and I said okay I'll try this and it's amazing I mean it up and Jocko's came up and I looked at the ingredients. Yep. And I said, okay, I'll try this.
And it's amazing.
I mean, it tastes good.
I just thought it doesn't work with me.
I had to find one that like worked with me.
Like I have a TBI.
So everything that goes in my gut needs to at least be somewhat dialed in.
I do have to take a step back.
I know that we were doing the chats, but the chat reminded me we did not talk about Sasquatch.
And that's an important video.
Here we go, ladies and gentlemen.
This is it. We have a video definitively proving that anybody will believe fake videos on the internet.
Okay, this is a video that purportedly shows Sasquatch.
Is there sound on this?
There's no sound.
Look at that.
You see him?
That's really funny.
It's a human.
Listen, it's a human.
Well, that's someone's being skeptical, right? There he is. Sasquatch.
You guys see that?
Oh, yeah.
Look at him.
I love the...
That's really funny.
Can I make it...
Can I zoom in on this video?
Oh.
Oh, there we go.
Why won't it play?
There he is.
Sasquatch.
That's really funny.
Maybe Bro's just here.
Maybe Bro's just here.
Maybe Bro's just here.
Maybe Bro's just here.
Maybe Bro's just here.
Maybe Bro's just here.
Maybe Bro's just here. Maybe Bro's just here. Maybe Bro's just here. Maybe Bro's just here. Maybe Bro's just here. why would it play there he is Sasquatch
maybe bro's just hairy
maybe he's just wearing a fur jacket
I love the deeply profound comment
that says man in a costume you can
tell because of the way it is
I mean I'm not even convinced a guy in a costume, you can tell because of the way it is.
I mean, I'm not even convinced a guy in a costume. It might just be a guy
wearing furs. Yeah. Yeah. And then
someone filmed it from far away and they're like,
Sasquatch! It's in the woods. It's gotta be him.
But, you know what?
Because we don't know, I'm gonna just
choose to believe it's Sasquatch. Yep.
And that proves it. He's been found. No, it's
what Mitch Hedberg said.
I just think Bigfoot is blurry.
What did he say? A blurry monster?
He's a large, out-of-focus monster
roaming the countryside.
Existently out-of-focus.
Do you guys know about the...
Do you know that West Virginia has more cryptids than any other
state in the country?
You just had Tony Merkel on for Culture War last week, right?
He's from the Confessionals. I'm not even sure what a cryptid is.
Cryptid? Yeah. Bigfoot.
Oh, okay. Chupacabra.
Snallygaster. Okay.
What else do we have? Snallygaster. That one I just
heard about recently. Yeah, don't you know?
Yeah. Do you guys know about Spring-Heeled
Jack? What?
Bro. Ah! Well, it was like
some dude who could jump off buildings
and jump 20 feet in the air or whatever.
Was it New Jersey or something?
In the UK?
Spring-heeled Jack. See, they're
rebooting the X-Files, and if they want to do
something, that's the type of stuff they should be covering.
I'm pretty sure they did. Check this out.
Spring-heeled Jack.
It's an English folklore.
1837. There were sightings reported all over the UK.
Basically, this dude...
This is Batman.
Like, spring-heeled.
He was described by people who have seen him
as having terrifying and frightening appearance
with diabolical physiognomy,
clawed hands and eyes
that resembled red balls of fire.
Batman.
And, like, I guess, what was it?
He could jump super high or something.
Yeah, he'd make extraordinary leaps to the point he'd begin the topic of several works of fire. Bad man. And like, I guess, what was it? He could jump super high or something. Yeah, he'd make extraordinary leaps to the point he'd begin the topic of several works
of fiction.
That's Superman, though.
That's parkour.
He looks like that.
You know what's funny is it really could have just been a guy doing parkour.
That's what I mean.
It's like early parkour before it was a thing.
We're in West Virginia, and this is Cryptid HQ.
Let me pull up a list of... Check this out.
Wow, Google's got it right here. Look at this.
Mothman. What? Yeah, do you know
about Mothman? No, it's creepy, though.
You ever seen the Mothman Chronicles? That was the movie?
It's a movie, yeah. And wasn't it based on a true story
or something? Yes, sir. Okay, give me more.
More, please. Tell me more. So, who is it?
Gene Hackman? No, not Gene Hackman.
What's his face?
What's the actor's name?
I can't remember. Someone look up his name. He's his face? What's the actor's name? I can't remember.
Someone look up his name.
He's in his hotel room and he's investigating.
Wasn't it the Mothman Prophecy?
Yes.
There you go.
He's in his hotel room and he gets a phone call.
Okay.
And then it tells him to open the Bible and choose any page, any passage.
And then it starts reading to him the passage that he chose and he freaks out.
And then basically it was warning him.
Who was it?
The actor?
Did you look it up?
It's Richard Gere.
Richard Gere.
Okay.
I knew there was like a G-E something.
He's trying to warn people a bridge is going to collapse because he's been warned by this entity, the Mothman.
They think the Mothman is just an owl.
And what was happening is that it's pitch black outside and
there's an owl sitting right on like a post right next to the road. And when people would drive past
it slowly, they'd look to their right and their brains would be confused. Their brain would
process the silhouette as being far away and very large instead of up close and very small.
So they were looking at an owl with glowing eyes,
not a massive Muffman.
Ah, this makes more sense.
Ah, okay.
That's terrifying.
Yep.
Or maybe there's a Muffman.
Maybe.
A Grafton monster.
Dude, Sheep Squatch.
Sheep Squatch.
Yeah, no joke.
Sheep Squatch, dude.
Is this around here?
So they, yes.
So in Fallout 76, the video game,
all of these monsters are in it
because it takes place in West Virginia.
Yeah.
So all of the monsters live in West Virginia.
I mean.
So West Virginia has more cryptid sightings
than any other place in the country.
Why do you think that is?
Meth.
I love how you had that ready.
Sheepsquatch,
known as the white thing. Look at this.
That sounds racist. You can't even see it.
It's a stupid picture. In 94, a former
Navy seaman said he had witnessed the beast
breaking through the forest. The white thing
breached the brush line and knelt to drink from the creek.
Here it drank for a few minutes before crossing
the creek and continuing towards the nearby road.
The witness stated that he observed the animal for a while before it moved under the surrounding brush.
Many sightings of sheep squatch.
Okay.
You know, everyone's always talking about Sasquatch, but, you know, ain't nobody talking about sheep squatch.
Right?
You know, I think, you know, Snallygaster.
Look at the veggie man.
Oh, my God.
Sarah actually just brought up the Snallygaster the other day, and I was like, what is this?
I've never heard of it.
What is the vegetable man of West Virginia?
Look at this. He's like, a carrot?
Looks like Mr. Burns
from that episode where he was an alien.
The vegetable man of West Virginia
is a little known hoax. Ah, okay.
So that's fakes. Fake.
Fakes. In the 50s, a hoaxer
made... Oh, you know what?
This is probably what the Simpsons based it off of to be honest
a UFO in the woods with a vegetable man
I was just told to stay out of the mountains
I think bad boy's real right
bad boy?
yeah as another cryptid
not real I'm saying it was like an actual cryptid
people thought it was real and it was like
and then the
Snallygaster look at this
but hold on cause because you said meth.
Well, when you've been up for four days at a time.
No, I know, but when were these like a thing?
Because these are looking like 1800s.
Like, when was meth a thing?
Did you get what I'm saying?
They used to put cocaine in Coca-Cola.
It's tough to keep you up all the time.
But I'm saying like 1800s,
these all came out around the same time.
Yeah, but they're also trying to keep kids out of the forest.
Oh yeah, fair enough. That's the whole story, these all came out around the same time. Yeah, but they're also trying to keep kids out of the forest. Oh, yeah, fair enough.
That's the whole story, yeah.
The flat was just a monster.
What is it?
On September 12, 1952, after a bright light crossed the sky,
investigators now suggest the light was a meteor and the creature was a barn owl.
And this is what people described it as.
Two brothers, Edward and Fred May, and their friend Tommy Heyer,
said they saw a bright object across
the sky the boys went home went to the home of kathleen may but they told the story then uh blah
blah blah boring boring boring they reached the top of a hill where they said they saw a red pulsing
light lemon said he aimed the flashlight in the direction and momentarily saw a tall man-like
figure with a round red face surrounded by a pointed ball pointed hood-like shape.
Descriptions varied.
Blah, blah, blah. But there you go. I don't know.
The Flatwoods Monster. You guys have a lot of
monsters out here. I've been to a lot of places, but it's
so dark out here in the woods at night.
I feel like you can just see some weird stuff.
They were driving me out here. I said,
where are you going? Oh, the Snarly Yow.
Where am I going? The Snarly Yow.
Bro, we got too many.
Look at that.
Oh, my God.
Bro, it's like somebody saw a coyote with mange and was like, it's a monster.
Does any other state have this many creatures?
No.
It's just here, hey?
Yes.
Okay.
You should go outside.
You know what I think?
No, I'm solid.
I'll stay inside.
Let me tell you guys.
Let me tell you what I think it is.
West Virginia has historically been
sparsely populated because of the mountains.
It's hard to move wagons through
West Virginia. So even though it's on the east coast,
it's one of the least populated states.
What ends up happening is, you have a dude who
lives in the middle of the woods, several miles away from the
next person. He goes outside,
it's dark, and he sees,
I don't know, a bear. Right. And he can't tell
what it is, and it makes a weird noise, and maybe it's a bear with mange or something. Okay. He then
goes to his neighbor's house like a week later and is like, I tell you, this thing must have
been a gigantic monster, eyes glowing, no hair on its body. I couldn't tell what it was. And the guy
goes, wow. Then he goes to the bar and says, there was some kind of six, seven foot tall monster,
massive with no hair.
And then a legend starts.
And that's how it all started. When you live in New York, however, if a deer runs through the city, 700 people go, we just saw a deer.
Instantly, everybody's like, oh, everybody said it was a deer.
So when you hear stories about like, actually, here's a good example.
You know the story of the Cyclops, where it comes from?
No.
They found elephant skulls.
Oh, no way. You ever see an elephant the Cyclops, where it comes from? No. They found elephant skulls. Oh, no way.
You ever see an elephant skull?
Yes.
That would make sense.
Yeah.
And so they started telling stories of a gigantic monster with one eye because it, you can't
really tell because this image is too small, but it works anyway.
So somebody sees this skull with a big hole and they think that's the eye socket and there's
the nose when in fact that's actually the nose.
Right.
And then they tell everybody we found a giant skull.
And that's how it works.
And then a bunch of guys are like, oh, we saw it.
Things like that.
So I imagine if you go way back in the day, like 2,000 years ago, some dude is like walking through the forest when he encounters like a wolf with mange.
Right.
And he fights it off.
Then he goes into town and he starts describing,
exaggerating.
Right.
This great exaggeration.
So West Virginia
with very few people,
sheep squash.
Sheep squash comes out.
Right.
It's a ram.
Right.
A very large ram
a guy sees
breaking its way
through the trees
and the guy's tired and groggy
and he sees it
and he's like,
whoa.
And he tells him,
it was a sheep, but it was huge, like some kind of monster,
and then you get sheep's watch.
I mean, it's pretty amazing.
You guys have a lot here, a lot to be proud of.
Indeed. Indeed.
Yep, West Virginia's famous for it.
All right, all right, let's get back to it
and grab some more of those super chats.
What have we here?
Smacky the Frog says,
I am sure Derek Chauvin
appreciated God's show
of solidarity
while he was sitting
in a cell.
Why smite Biden
after he ran the country
into a ditch?
The prime time
for an act of God
was before he victimized
his family.
You could also just say,
like,
why punish them
after they die
if they're doing bad things?
Because I don't think
that's the system.
I don't know.
You know? Like, the punishment is I don't know. You know?
Like the punishment is for what?
After you do?
All right.
What is this?
We got a big one.
Big super chat.
Wow, this is a big one.
Working.
Why is it?
It's not.
There we go.
Working single-handed says, my son should be at his high school graduation tonight.
Instead, I'm at his ICU bedside after a horrific multi-fatality crash last Saturday.
By God's mercy alone, he survived. It's a miracle. Instead, I'm at his ICU bedside after a horrific multi-fatality crash last Saturday.
By God's mercy alone, he survived.
It's a miracle.
We've seen his hand all week.
All glory to him.
Please pray and share.
Give, send, go.
Tristan, what is it?
Tristan, Tristan A Recovery.
Is that what it says?
Yeah.
If you're, well, I, his name is Jonathan Ruzich.
He actually tweeted the same thing at me. Oh, okay. So if you, if you're the praying type, pray for Jonathan Ruzich. He actually tweeted the same thing at me.
Oh, okay.
So if you're the praying type, pray for Jonathan Ruzich, kid.
Yeah, I think when I was younger, I bravely wasn't believing in God because I hadn't experienced anything to make me believe in God.
And then I've experienced things and witnessed things where I'm like,
yeah, there's a God.
And I think two things.
One, atheists haven't had those experiences.
And that's the easiest way to explain it, I guess.
And I wonder if the issue on top of that is they haven't researched enough into it.
Well, again, I also think, too, it comes down to when people are told something for so long and then they are asked or invited to question or experience something, they're unwilling to go and actually go through the experience because there's a chance it will completely change their entire fabric of reality.
And that's what happens.
Well, that's that or psychedelics.
I mean, it just depends yeah you know i i don't feel that um bill maher was listening to me when i was trying
to explain the observable reality creating a probabilistic outcome of god was it the weed
well he was stoned out of his mind for sure could it have been the weed where he was not
just checked i do think he was largely listening to what i was saying in the conversation right but
this was right towards the end and instead of asking anything about what i explained he said, I love how cute it is that people come up with these ways to believe
what they want or whatever. And I was like, Oh, dismissive, cute. Thanks. Right. Cause I was
literally talking about the entropy and negative entropy and the structure of reality and the,
you know, why certain particles fuse together and create, why, why is there a system of
organization for particles to become, you know, atoms, to become elements, to become compounds, to become cells, to become multicellular,
to become life?
Why does this, you know, why is there a weaker opposite to entropy?
And he just didn't really engage in the conversation.
Can I ask you something?
Yes.
Do you think that, I'm trying to be, it's your show.
Do you think that, I'm sorry. Do you think that there's these moments where you're having these conversations with individuals like, for example, Bill Maher, where regardless of the cannabis or whatever else he's drinking or whatever else is going on, where they're just not intellectually strong enough to carry on that conversation so then they do a dismissive comment like that and just kind of blow the okay i just want to make sure i think it's it's i i read about this a long time ago
there's a phenomenon in psychology where uh you know what don't worry about what i read brandon
struck explained how he felt physical pain when he actually had his worldview disproven to him
of course he had firmly believed that trump was bad. He had seen the videos. And then when someone actually showed him proof that he was wrong, he felt a physical pain in his whole body.
And I read about this a long time ago.
And the reason why humans have – so let's put it this way.
There's a study of social engineering.
It is a hacker discipline about manipulating people to make them do the things you want them to do.
It is principally how hackers gain control of systems.
They don't code computers.
They trick people.
It's easier.
And so in this study,
there are people have compiled information
from psychology such as,
when you want to approach someone
who you know to be adversarial or in opposition to you,
you must always approach them from rapport,
meaning lie and agree with them.
This breaks the first
barrier where they say we are of the same tribe i can now trust you right otherwise if you approach
them as an enemy they'll disregard whatever you say it also talks about how uh i should say the
readings that i did talked about how the the evolutionary purpose for a visceral physical
reaction to information that disproves what you think you know,
is because humans evolved based on the things they trusted to be true.
And the humans that survived to their late 20s must have figured something out that was correct.
Don't eat that mushroom, it will kill you.
Don't eat that plant, it's poisonous.
Or here's a better example.
There's a tribe of people, and they find a patch of various red fruits.
And one person tries it and dies, and they all panic and run.
They discover that every time someone tries to eat one of these different red fruits, they die.
So they develop a practice of never eat the red fruit until one day someone finds a tomato.
And they all say, you're crazy, you're wrong, and they try smacking it out of his hand.
They get angry.
But tomatoes aren't poisonous.
It was the other fruits. But because they evolved to survive based
off that presumption, the reason why they get angry, it's to protect the human, it's to protect
them from doing things that could cause them to die. And so they say that your mind closes up in
your mid-20s, and there's a period in your late 40s where it starts to reopen. This triggers, in men, midlife crises.
The reason being, we also evolved to survive
by reassessing what we think to be true
at a certain point in our lives.
But this means that human beings throughout history
who were willing to believe anything
were less likely to survive.
And human beings that learned
and then at adulthood solidified those beliefs and rejected anything that would challenge them were more likely to survive because what they learned led them to survive.
Thus, people have psychotic breaks and mental breakdowns, anger and and rage.
If you present them information that can counter their worldview.
Well, I've seen that I've watched the show recently, just more and more now that he seems like
he's doing it more consistently.
And depending on who he has on,
I mean, he had Charlie Kirk on
and I watched that interview
and I watched that back and forth.
And it seemed like
there was just this
very dismissive,
divisive conversation
where he was unwilling
to not even just,
not even just argue points,
but even just hear points.
Like, how dare you even say
those things in my space?
Like, how dare you even have that or attempt to have that conversation?
Because it does feel like with Bill,
if there's any point where you maybe,
I don't say have one up on him or you're able to make a pretty solid point
with evidence,
he's still,
he's very dismissive.
And I noticed that with,
with you.
And that's why I wondered if like how you feel about that,
when that happens to you,
because you're giving 70, I get it. I don't care though. That's an excuse. wondered if like how you feel about that when that happens to you because you're giving.
I get it.
I don't care though.
That's an excuse.
I mean you're still a human being hosting a show.
Your job is to host a show and have a give and take.
And if you're going to be dismissive and a blank to people, then that kind of just makes me not want to pay attention to you at all because you're just not giving anybody the time of day to be, I don't know, a decent human being.
That's my perspective.
Now, that doesn't have to be anybody else's.
But that's what I notice. And when people are dismissive like that,
I have a hard time wanting to listen to them
or even respect anything they have to say
because they're unwilling to think outside the box
or even just imagine for a moment outside of their delusion
that other people could be feeling or thinking something different.
Also, you know what he said to me is that
he's an atheist because we don't know, we can't know,
and we probably never will.
That's just such... And I'm like, but that's just such and i'm like but that's just plum not true but that's what that's my point
and that when you that's presumptive the idea that we can't know is presumptive right you are
making a declarative fact-based statement whereas i could simply say now hold on we might i don't
know what what might science discover maybe you know when we discovered the the electromagnetic
spectrum nobody thought
that was a thing. And then we were like,
there's actually a big frequency range.
What if eventually someone's like, we've discovered
the God spectrum. And then they're like,
there's actually a way to tap into
and communicate directly with God. And then one day
someone's like, we bought this weird machine. Watch this.
You press it. And then God appears and he's like, hey, what's up?
He doesn't know that's not going to happen.
I mean, we have no idea what we've discovered. But the certainty in people and individuals like god appears and he's like hey what's up right he doesn't know that's not going to happen i mean we have no idea what we've been but the certain but the certainty in people and
individuals like that it was like the uh somebody joe just had this guy on from uh he was an
egyptologist i believe i don't i can't for the life of me i can't think of his name but yeah
he had him on and just to listen but just you don't believe in aliens and he's like oh joe i'm
a scientist just the level of ignorance to to think or even with somebody like neil degrasse
tyson where he's having these conversations it's like just the level of ignorance to to think or even with somebody like Neil deGrasse Tyson where he's having these conversations it's like just the level of ignorance for such an
intelligent individual to not even be willing to open the mind enough to go you know what that
that could have a like I can't for say for certain that's the thing that gets me about these people
is it's like if you want to come on shows and have conversations and you want to be quite
hard-lined I get it but if you're a host of a show like Bill Maher
and then you have an individual like yourself
who's very clearly very intellectual
in comparison to him
when he's too stoned to handle his life,
it's just very, to me, it puts me off.
I don't want to listen to you now.
You're just kind of irritating.
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