Timcast IRL - FBI Releases TRANS Shooter MANIFESTO Exposing Anti-Christian HATE w/ Kelsi Sheren

Episode Date: May 31, 2025

Tim, Phil, & Brett are joined by Kelsi Sheren to discuss the FBI releasing the Nashville Trans Shooter manifesto, Trump saying he doesn't feel sorry for Joe Biden amid Biden's cancer diagnosis, the Ne...w York Times saying Trump & Palantir will compile data on all Americans, and the shocking evolution of AI video over the last year.   Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) Brett  @PopCultureCrisis  (YouTube) Serge @SergeDotCom (everywhere) Guest: Kelsi Sheren @KelsiBurns (X)

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Starting point is 00:01:37 transparency and exposing what's been going on because under the Biden admin, much of this was covered up. And even during Trump's first administration, Comey, well, let's just talk about Comey. Kash Patel says he orchestrated the largest criminal conspiracy in this country, helped facilitate the Russiagate hoax, and as head of the FBI, was involved in what appears to be, according to the GOP, a cover-up of certain individuals lying to Congress to push that Russia hoax. Now we have Comey saying that the GOP is white supremacist adjacent, whatever that means. This is what we get, right? So big news today.
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Starting point is 00:04:26 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Kelsey Sharon. Hello, friends. Who are you? What do you do? I do a lot of things, but I am from the communist country of Canada. We're banned in Canada. I'm banned too.
Starting point is 00:04:36 I feel like I'm in welcome company here. We just found out about this because of you. I know. I'm so sorry about that. But no, I am a podcaster. I have a show called The Kelsey Sharon Perspective. I'm an author. I'm a sub stack as well. I'm so sorry about that. But no, I am a podcaster. I have a show called The Kelsey Sharon Perspective. I'm an author. I'm a substack as well.
Starting point is 00:04:47 I'm also a combat veteran. And I work with professional athletes. And I'm a mental strength coach as well. You had tried posting the link to our website. Yes. And it says people in Canada can't see it. Why would we want to be able to see freedom? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:01 Yeah. Well, we will be greeted as liberators when we march on Canada. Listen, when you march on Canada. Listen, when you come to the door, which is two feet from the border, I will welcome you in with open arms. See, that proves it. I would like to be the 51st state. I've said it once. I'll say it again. All right. Well, it should be fun. Thanks for hanging out. We got Brett hanging out. What is going on guys? Brett, normally pop culture crisis Monday through Friday, 3 PM Eastern standard time. We don't want Canada as the 51st state because the voting is going to become even more lopsided if we introduce communist Canadians as voters for America.
Starting point is 00:05:32 It's a horrible idea. What if we're voting for your people? But you're not going. You might, but the rest of the country won't. But you don't know who I know. There's only one of you. Anyways, I'm Phil Labonte, lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains,
Starting point is 00:05:44 an anti-communist and counter-revolutionary. Let's get into it. Here's a story from the Post Millennial. FBI releases 112 pages of writing from Nashville trans school shooter showing maps, faculty lists, and anti-Christian diatribes. They said the FBI on Thursday released over 100 pages, of course 112, related to the Nashville Covenant School shooting, which killed three
Starting point is 00:06:05 children and three staff members. 112 pages released by the FBI were found by law enforcement in Hale's car. The release comes after a long legal battle by Tennessee Star and the Tennessee Firearms Association to make the documents available to the public. Among the pages released by the FBI were redacted pages that had maps of the Covenant School, including the first floor and second floor, as well as lists of faculty members at the school and dates that the school was on break for the 22-23 school calendar. Hale wrote about feeling being born wrong, scribbling on one page, why does my brain not work right? Because I was born wrong. A sketch of pages includes notes on the beginning shooters and defensive pistol, etc. They go on to mention that there was, of course, anti-Christian diatribes. And I guess for personal and professional reasons, we're not going to show
Starting point is 00:06:51 the manifesto. It's available at the Postmillennial for those that want to go through these pages, but we're not going to dive into that other than to talk about the reason why this was covered up. And in my opinion, it's because of two principal things. One, the anti-Christian bias. This is hate crime territory. This should be listed among all of these NGOs that track all the hate and everything as anti-Christian hatred. Of course, it's never going to make the press because it goes against the narrative. And then the other issue, of course, was the leftist ideology of being born wrong, resulting in this person engaging in this kind of behavior is damaging to the leftist gender narrative and blank slate narrative.
Starting point is 00:07:26 So the FBI at the time was probably like, let's just not show anybody this. But as most people know, if they don't disclose the identity of the individual, depending on the story, people make assumptions about what the race of the person would be. So whenever there's a story and it says a white man did a thing, people are like, oh, okay. And then if they don't mention the race, people make assumptions like, I have a feeling, right? That's the Ann Coulter rule, right? Is it? It kind of is the Ann Coulter rule, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Did she make that up? It was always referred to me as the Ann Coulter rule. Yeah. I think she might be the first person to have actually articulated it. It was kind of like people kind of had that sense, and she was the first person to kind actually articulated it. It was kind of like people kind of had that sense, and she was the first person to kind of be like, hey. Say it out loud? Yeah, kind of actually articulate it and make it a thing.
Starting point is 00:08:11 In Sweden, there was a, I think it was, it might have been an Afghan national who was in the country, committed some crime. And so they blurred the person, but then changed the pixelated colors of the skin to a white person. Oh! Yeah. Also, they've lightened pictures for people who are of a certain skin tone.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Why are you looking at me like that? I'm just looking around. Okay. That's what happens when people talk to you. Is that what it is? I don't know. There was a conversation where you weren't here yet. That's why you missed this.
Starting point is 00:08:41 Fair enough. The thing that I find is that this is the first thing you start to realize once you start actually paying attention to the news and seeing the way that they twist the truth and lie by omission and lie by structure is that you start looking for what's missing in an article rather than what's there. And this is one of the easiest ways to tell whether that's happening is what's left out of the headline of an article, whether somebody's mentioned is their race, their gender, things like that. Makes sense. Yeah, and the issue, of course, here being this is damaging to the left social order. And so here's a great point, right? The ADL has their hate map.
Starting point is 00:09:16 They call it a heat map. And right wing is listed as anti-government, white supremacist, and other. Other. What the hell is other? They just basically are like, we are going to call every act of violence right-wing. Perfect. And then this is
Starting point is 00:09:30 what they do. The left is a monolith of goodness, and anything bad is right-wing. Totally. I'm like, right-wing anarchists are the same thing as authoritarian white supremacists? How is that right-wing? Doesn't matter. It's all just a narrative building
Starting point is 00:09:46 device. The point is, anything that is bad or violent or looked at as antisocial, that is just classified as right wing. Whether or not it's actually right wing is irrelevant. The point is to classify it as right wing, get people to talk about it as right wing and kind of speak it into existence. The left loves to do that with any number of topics but when it comes to violence in particular they really do. Anything that isn't
Starting point is 00:10:15 overtly and undeniably left wing, they classify as right wing. It also speaks you said that you talked about the leftist idea of being born in the wrong body. And how old was the, I forget how old the shooter was. She was a teenager. Like you take so much of the confusion and the kind of angst that comes from being a
Starting point is 00:10:35 young, you know, a teenager, a child, and you've turned it into this hyper politicized means of control over the population that it's actually far more evil when you think about what they've done to just the normal pangs of growing up and being a teenager well they've made it significantly worse to the point in which you get shooters like this this probably i mean i argue it might not have happened if we weren't living in this kind of age that we are now when individuals are constantly slow drip the idea they're in the wrong body, it's going to create this more than just like your, what would you call that?
Starting point is 00:11:09 More than just like delusion in your mind, but you're constantly fed this information that just is making you question your entire existence and your entire reality. How could this not be caused
Starting point is 00:11:20 by these left ideas and slow dripped into these children and not, how are we not taking accountability for what we're teaching them and going, Oh, they're shooters. Of course they are.
Starting point is 00:11:28 The left still hasn't, hasn't acknowledged that to tell children that they're born in the wrong body is detrimental to children's development. We had a, we had a, we had someone on this morning on the culture war defending, I heard into it, defending the idea that trans
Starting point is 00:11:46 children exist and that it's better to help transition teenagers and stuff. And it's just absolutely not. I think she deflected on the issue of children. Oh, did she? Yeah, because she kept going back to adults and I was like, we don't disagree. Some conservatives might, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:12:02 But when you say children, what was her classification in terms of age for children? Minor or okay but what's minor because minor can be very very different for in a lot of places 17 and under but we're talking about the united states no no fair enough no but i'm saying though even in the united states for them to classify right so it's like for hormones they'll only give i think it's what is it above above eight years old they consider minors to be very specific and that that's why I'm asking, like, if she was going to say, no, it's adults only, but what is, because the left a lot of times deems children to be, have the ability to make decisions that are far outside their ability.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Like there's just no way cognitively they can. Particularly when it's convenient for them. They want children to vote. They want to say that children can make decisions that would take them away from their family, take the power away, the authority away from their parents. But when it comes to things like, you know, who's dating who, people in their 20s are like, oh, well, you know, I didn't know. Or when you're out in the real world and it's like, well, you have responsibilities. Oh, I'm just a I heard a woman one time say, and this could be just an anomaly, but a woman said, I am just a 27-year-old teenage girl.
Starting point is 00:13:09 Okay. Was that a viral video? Yeah, it was. Yeah. And it really kind of shocked me, but at the same time, it's something that you do hear a lot. People don't want to acknowledge that they're adults in their mid to upper 20s. But again, this is all a mechanism of convenience. It's when it's convenient to say, no, I'm not an adult.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Or when it's convenient to say, well, those children actually should be allowed to vote because they're 16. And, well, they're the ones that have the most, you know, go on the line because they're young and they have their whole lives. So bad policies now are going to affect them most but then of course when they finish college and they want you to pay their loans back they say i didn't understand what i was getting into when i took out those student loans it is a mechanism of power yeah it's an it's a it's a mechanism to avoid responsibility which is something the left loves to do. Something that I think there are probably a lot of groups of people that love to do it. And you see it not just, you bring up the school stuff.
Starting point is 00:14:12 There's other cases where they're doing that too. I'm sorry, I had a specific issue I was going to bring up, but I totally slipped my mind now. So if someone's got something else, please. Well, that's it. The conversation's over. Done.
Starting point is 00:14:25 It's my fault. My bad. Phil is the one who made me realize that sometimes you can just forget your thought and be like, lost it. Go on. Otherwise, I'm like, um, um, um. I'm like, get it, get it, get it.
Starting point is 00:14:34 Nope, just, no. I forgot it. It's perfectly human to do that, especially with how much we talk. Just fake a bit of rage where you're like, and he was, rah! I made you think about everything. yeah, you can use my hammer.
Starting point is 00:14:47 I'm sure there have been many points that I've tried to drive home that don't land because it was just something that filled in the blank when there was something else there and I lost it. Yeah. To the point, it is true that the left does do things or try to make arguments that absolve them of responsibility when they're responsibility when it comes to adult things and bestows responsibility on children that they could never, ever actually have the ability to take. I think we talk about the divide in the culture war,
Starting point is 00:15:16 and the conversation we were having on the Culture War Show this morning about what it means to be left or right, there's varying degrees or varying definitions of what be left or right, there's varying degrees or varying definitions of what separates left and right, but I largely think it's, when you look at what the quote-unquote right is today, you have former liberals. It's largely just people who are logical, rational,
Starting point is 00:15:35 follow the news, and are looking for solutions, and the left is a psychotic murmuration of cult-like lunatics who believe random things that don't make sense. And how dare you not actually agree with them if you want to be in the left? Otherwise, you're just left out in the cold. So where do you go? I feel like that's something that I point out a lot with people when they say that's
Starting point is 00:15:52 liberal. And I say, no, that's leftism. That's not liberalism in many ways. I still have plenty of things that I'd like to have a discussion about that would have been considered left-leaning ideas. That's a debate that I gave up a long time ago. I'm of the opinion that liberal doesn't mean leftist, but I'm also not going to fight with everybody.
Starting point is 00:16:13 Because everybody is like, oh, own the libs and blah, blah, blah. Right. What is the word used to describe? And anybody who says something like leftists and the liberal side love to use, they have multiple definitions of a single word, but they will apply a different definition to win the debate.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Right. So they'll say, you know, it's the Martin Bailey. He's a white supremacist. What are you talking about? He's a non-white and he's spoken against white supremacy. No, no. I mean the classical academic version of white supremacy of privilege from colonizer history. And they're like, okay, shut up the classical academic version of white supremacy, of privilege from colonizer history.
Starting point is 00:16:45 And they're like, okay, shut up. It's too far. The first time that somebody gave me the side eye because they said that somebody couldn't be racist unless they were white. And I was like, I'm not entertaining that debate. If we can't have a discussion around the idea that everyone can be racist to another person, then we're operating on different wavelengths here. And usually that ends up being why those types of back and forth, even with somebody who you may want to enter into a discussion in good faith with, don't work because you can never get past
Starting point is 00:17:14 the actual definitions for the words you're having in the argument. The purpose for changing the definition of racism was to realign people based on what they were taught. So throughout millennial youth, you're told racism is bad. Don't be racist. Then when you get older, you're like, I am not racist. I will try to treat everybody equally.
Starting point is 00:17:32 And then some academic comes by or some leftist, and they're like, I want you to vote for me. And they say, I don't like your policies. And they go, you're racist. It goes, actually, I'm not. Uh-uh. You don't know what racist means. Racist means something different.
Starting point is 00:17:43 Now, does that apply to you? Well, it kind of does. Aha, so you admit you're racist. That's the point. So they can force people to their will. Well, in much of, at least from my generation, it was about treating everyone equally in the Martin Luther King approach to race relations,
Starting point is 00:17:59 which now they blatantly and openly talk about how that isn't the right approach and that someone's race is integral to how you're supposed to judge them so you're trying to rewire the brains of an entire generation so why people talk about how the 90s were as great as they were and in a lot of ways people felt as if racism was largely a non-starter a non-issue in america and it's been re-injected into the culture by changing the definition and actually trying to change the way in which an entire generation of people judge those that they interacted with. I was just good. I was going to move on.
Starting point is 00:18:30 Let's do one more. Yeah, go ahead. We're going to jump to the next story from Midyat. My friends, in talking about what the political factions in the culture war are, let me just say there are two. Those who feel sorry for Joe Biden's cancer and those who don't really feel sorry for him. And this is Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:18:47 Oh, come on, media. You always do this. And I asked Caroline this yesterday, but I want to ask you directly. So many of the things that you're trying to do are held up in court right now. OK, I don't think this is related to that quote. And the quote is funnier. So let's just if the courts are going to have influence over this policy, do you wish you could become judge instead? And Trump chuckled and embarked
Starting point is 00:19:09 on a nearly five minute whirlwind response that concluded with an attack on Biden's handling of the border. And then without mentioning Biden's diagnosis, Trump said the people should not feel sorry for the ex-president. And I don't believe it was Joe Biden. Look, he's been sort of a moderate person over his lifetime, not a smart person, but a somewhat vicious person, I will say. If you feel sorry for him, don't feel so sorry because he's vicious. What he did with his political opponent and all of the people that he hurt, he hurt a lot of people. And so I don't really feel sorry for him. Trump's remarks were a far cry from his statement in the immediate aftermath of Biden's diagnosis, which is, Melania and I are saddened to hear about Joe Biden's recent medical diagnosis. He wrote,
Starting point is 00:19:48 we extend our warmest and best wishes to Jill and the family, and we wish Joe a fast and successful recovery. That was probably written by a staffer. Well, that was for sure written by a staffer. And that's why he is now saying the honest truth. I don't actually really feel bad. Nobody believed him when he said, oh, we're so sorry that you've got cancer. They've known about it for a long time. Does anybody actually feel sorry?
Starting point is 00:20:03 They've known. This is elder abuse at best. Yeah. Jill Biden is responsible. No new. Yeah. Of course. Dr. Drew is saying this. I did an interview with him that there's no way this was, we did a routine exam and found cancer and it's metastasized to the bone. He's like, that takes years. Even if, even if it's aggressive, it's a couple of years. Well, there was clips where he had mentioned it several times. I have cancer. I had cancer.
Starting point is 00:20:27 No, he knew. How do you guys? I have cancer in one clip. Say again. He outright said, I and so many others have cancer. That's what I'm saying. They knew about this. The media came out and they were like, no, he's talking about his skin lesions. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:37 Once again, I asked Dr. Joe, I'm like, you're a doctor. And he's like, literally no one considers a skin lesion having cancer. No. His dermatologist told him so. How do you feel about this approach to politicians when it comes to having a certain level of sympathy for someone who has a diagnosis like this after time in office, which has been marked by a lot of mistrust from the public and a lot of waste that has gone on and made America worse? Because on the average day for me, it could go either way. There are days where it's like, I feel like you lose humanity if you don't at least learn to accept and understand and feel empathy for the suffering of another person.
Starting point is 00:21:15 But on other days, I'm like, politicians are scum. But like, do you believe in God? I'm agnostic. Agnostic. Do you believe in God? Yes. Phil, you believe in God? I'm also agnostic. Agnostic. Do you believe in God? Yes. Phil, you believe in God? I'm also agnostic.
Starting point is 00:21:28 Agnostic. Okay, so I'll just ask you, do you think God intervenes in our earthly dwelling? Yes. I would just say that if you are someone who believes that God smites, then why would you have sympathy for an evil man who has been smit? Smited? Smitten. Smited? Smitten. Smitten?
Starting point is 00:21:46 Smote. Smote. And I would take it a step further. Who has been smote? Smote. I'd argue it took a little long. Um, I, you know. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:21:56 I don't know. Having like a very serious cancer that weighs you down and is damaging is, is, is, it's brutal. For sure. But then when... I mean, look, I think it would be... I think we should be looking more at the people around him
Starting point is 00:22:09 that hid it from him and hid it from the American people and lied to the American people. And I think that we should also be looking at who else they lied to, the entire globe, while signing his name on documents that he had no clue
Starting point is 00:22:21 what was being signed. I think I don't necessarily feel bad for him. I feel like the people around him should be held to account for what they did to this man and put him in the position when he was this sick this often. And for this, like that, that's disgusting to me. Like, I don't feel bad for what's happening in terms of, I believe in karma. I believe in bad things happen to people who do terrible things. And over time, the cancers will build in your body because you can't let go of that stress that will sit in your cells. But I also do believe that the people around him are the bad people, the people that have lied
Starting point is 00:22:53 continuously and put people into positions where other Americans have died over stupidity because of ignorance. Yeah, I think Joe Biden was smote. That too. I don't know. Like, I guess for me, when I, when I think about it from that perspective, most of the time, if I'm thinking about my own empathy or sympathy towards another person, it's not about whether I think they're going to get what's coming to them. It's about what it does to myself or who I am. If I start to become too vengeful towards someone, even if I disagree with them heavily. Now, again, that goes back and forth depending on the day and the mood I'm in, but I lean towards showing empathy and sympathy for most people. You can show empathy and sympathy for most people, but I think you can also trust in
Starting point is 00:23:36 a greater that something else will take care of it for you. It's not on you to handle. It's just let it be. But where's the line? I don't, that's what I'm saying. I don't, I don't have an answer for you on that because this is purely from an introspective standpoint where it's like, yeah, Hitler's the obvious example. I have no empathy or sympathy for Hitler, sure.
Starting point is 00:23:55 But for me, it's a question that would come up dependent on the situation. In those examples... Adam Schiff. Tons of empathy. Endless amounts. I'm going to write a book about it. But to any degree, sympathy for a man?
Starting point is 00:24:09 Like, Jamie Raskin's a better example. I just think it's what, look, I don't have an answer for you. I just think that for most people, especially if you're on the internet a lot, we get desensitized to everything that's going on in the world. It's good to at least ask yourself to be introspective about how you feel about these people that you've never met, but they affect your life i i know i would add this too there's no real way to understand whether a person was smote or not because sometimes good people get cancer you know what i mean and we're not going to be like this you know good god-fearing man who dedicated his life getting
Starting point is 00:24:38 cancer and then but but some people will have they'll interpret it in some way like god is testing him or something so it's like if you think a bad person had a bad thing happen to him, it's just your personal opinion, I guess, without any bearing in reality or fact. That happened when the George Floyd statue got struck by lightning and everybody's like, In the wall? Was it the mural that got struck and they're like, it was a sign from God. I'm like, or it was just a weather event. Oh, dude, you know, it's crazy to me. Like, we've got this video we'll talk about later with Sasquatch.
Starting point is 00:25:06 And obviously it's some guy. But it's funny either way. But I have had experiences in my life that seemingly defy our understanding of science, physics, and reason. And there have been moments witnessed by all that seem astronomically unlikely that I believe shows there is something beyond what we understand the universe to be. So largely the secular folks will view the universe as this universal code, physics and structure of how things go. But then you get a brick wall
Starting point is 00:25:38 with a picture of George Floyd having a crown and lightning strikes just in the middle blowing up only one layer of the two-layer wall, only the mural of George Floyd, leaving the rest of the building intact. And it was a storm that moved in, lightning struck, and then the storm dissipated. The Lord works in mysterious ways. And I look at that and I say, the question is, how do you define what a miracle is? Right? So I've, the question is, how do you define what a miracle is?
Starting point is 00:26:05 Right. So I've asked theologians this. Is a miracle, say, like a ham sandwich appearing out of thin air and flopping on the table? Like, wow, how did that happen? Or is a miracle something that is seemingly defying all odds and occurring in front of you, but still within the realm of possibility? So when you have, it was a brick wall with two layers of bricks. The middle of the building, which should not be struck by lightning, was struck by lightning, destroying only the mural of George Floyd of the crown and leaving the rest of the mural intact. And I'm just like, I look at that like an act of God. When people were like, God's making hurricanes because you're gay.
Starting point is 00:26:41 I'm like, I don't know. I was taking it too far. But when like lightning strike, i'm like i don't know no i'm taking it too far but when like the lightning strike i'm like geez that's a little specific just sending a message directly very specific it's hyper pinpoint i've also experienced things personally that seemingly defy our understanding of physics and i think a lot of people have it's just it's hard to track and control for these things and understand what they are and then I wonder if a lot of these you know directly atheist individuals who are like we're wet robots nothing is magic you know they've never had an experience
Starting point is 00:27:15 and I wonder if it's they've either had experiences and it's been so overwhelming it's kind of like when you see something so hard to deal with that your whole body goes there's no way that could be real there's no way that that could have happened. They shut down and go the complete opposite way. That would make sense, at least for me. Maybe. I don't know. I will just say that even here at the studio is a brand new building.
Starting point is 00:27:36 We had have had strange occurrences and, you know, omens and like for personal reasons. We can't I won't discuss it. It's not my business. But let's just say like poltergeist phenomenon has occurred. Oh, fantastic. Yeah. Love that for me. And been witnessed by numerous people.
Starting point is 00:27:56 And everybody was frozen with a shocked look on their face. And this is like recently. Is it just in this building specifically? Yes. On the property? Now, certainly this property was a battlefield. That was my next question. In the Civil War.
Starting point is 00:28:10 Well, what was here first? It wasn't. So where we are wasn't like a direct conflict zone in the way that Antietam was. Okay. But we have found a bayonet during the construction process. Did you bring it in here? No, I don't know where it is. Yeah, we found a rusted bayonet.
Starting point is 00:28:26 That's sick. We think it was used. That's even more sick. We think it broke off in use. Oh, buddy. Do you have anything inside the property? There is a grave site on the property. Okay, well.
Starting point is 00:28:39 Yeah, we actually have a grave on the property. Do people know that before they decide to come to the show? Well, there are graves all over the place. Okay. I don't know. Yeah, there's several tombs from the 1800s on the property that have fallen to disrepair, and the ground has shifted, and they've fallen over. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:56 I didn't bring enough sage for this. Sage? Jesus. I don't know. Anyway, long story short, I think sometimes people get smote. Yeah. I don't know. Anyway, long story short, I think sometimes people get smote. Yeah. Look, I mean, as far as Joe Biden goes, like this, this may sound kind of callous, but like, like he's an old guy and I never met him. So it's not that I don't care and I don't feel malice towards the guy.
Starting point is 00:29:23 But at the same time, like it's not going to change my life. Right. So it's kind of just like, like you know old people get sick and die i also think too based on the what he's done to the nation and the impact that he has left him dying is tragic any human dying is tragic any person's suffering is tragic but it does not amount to the amount of suffering he's imposed on nations and people and his own people and hasn't asked them how they felt or how it affected them or if they should care but we're supposed to have deep empathy for the man that imposed left right and center i'm not saying you i'm just like you know we should all feel bad okay what about everything he did over the past terms that he was here and then before that and then before that?
Starting point is 00:30:05 Like, I just don't understand where the line is. He's just an old politician. Right. And, like, there are people that kind of wrap their lives into politics and average people can just be like, oh, drag, and go about their lives. Because that's kind of, that's actually the proper response to finding out someone that you didn't know who's lived a very long life is their life is coming to an end well that's what happens to people die yeah they die we're
Starting point is 00:30:31 not all brian johnson we're not looking to live 170 000 like what's happening here i guess maybe my point was more that um when when politicians get sick especially controversial politicians i'm speaking more to the people that tend to take pleasure or glee in that. And that's a different thing entirely. So I guess that was maybe more the point that I was trying to make and kind of failed in my job is that I try to weigh my kind of antagonism
Starting point is 00:30:56 that I feel towards all politicians and make sure that I level myself out so that I don't- Just let it out, man. I mean, this is a safe space. Make a video just yelling at the sun. Yeah, you know. Let's jump to this next story from the New York Times.
Starting point is 00:31:10 Now, I'll start off with a caveat of often I just don't believe when these stories are so bold. They have lied about Donald Trump so often it's hard to just assume the worst. But let's read the story and break it down. Trump taps Palantir to compile data on Americans. Now, this story has sparked a lot of anger, even among people on the right, where it appears that Trump is working with Peter Thiel to create a data sharing system, I guess, using Palantir to track all of your personal information. Oh, perfect. The New York Times reports the Trump administration has expanded Palantir's work with the government, spreading the company's technology, which could easily merge data on Americans through agencies. In March, Trump signed an executive order calling for the federal government to share data across agencies, raising questions over whether he might compile a master list of personal information.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Trump has not publicly talked about the effort since. Behind-the-scenes officials have quietly put technological building blocks in place to enable his plan. In particular, they have turned to one company, Palantir, the data analysis and technology firm. The Trump admin has expanded Palantir's work across the federal government in recent months. The company has received more than $113 million in federal government spending since Trump took office. Reps from Palantir are also speaking to at least two other agencies, SSA and the IRS, about buying its technology, according to six government officials. Now you see right away how they lie. That doesn't feel good. Let me break this down. They're lying. Don't believe the headline. They just they spill the beans. Trump taps Palantir
Starting point is 00:32:35 to compile data on Americans. Fake news. These people are scumbags. They then go on to say that Trump has not talked publicly about this, nor has Palantir, but Palantir does do this kind of work and Trump is contracting them. Therefore, they're lying. They made up a fake headline based off of this. What I can't stand about the press. They're lying about this. So he he tapped Palantir to do something for the government, but they're implying that it's for this specific purpose. Sharing data across agencies does not mean stealing or spying or compiling Americans' and putting them into a master list. It says questions over whether he might do it,
Starting point is 00:33:14 but the headline they put for the article says he is doing it. These people are evil scumbags. I can't stand these people. I just want to understand how they're able to get away with this, where if you have a typo on anything, it's totally, like, the whole thing will crash, but they can blatantly lie in the headlines in some of the largest newspapers. Like, we watch this from Canada, and I think that our stuff is corrupt with the CBC, and then I see this stuff, and I go, I just don't
Starting point is 00:33:35 understand how you guys all sit there and go, yeah, this is totally normal. This is normal. We're all good with it. Everyone's fine with this. It says, creating detailed portraits of Americans based on government data is not just a pipe dream. They're not saying he did it. The Trump admin has
Starting point is 00:33:51 already sought access to hundreds of data points on citizens and others through government databases including their bank account numbers, the amount of their student debt, their medical claims, and any disability status. Once again, those are a bunch of unrelated things that they have written next to each other to trick you into thinking he's doing this. Let me give you an example of how these scumbags operate.
Starting point is 00:34:10 Imagine I said something like, Phil Labonte showed up to my house. This guy then punched a dog to death. The way it's written is intending to make you believe that I'm referring to Phil as the man who punched the dog to death. No, no, I didn't say Phil. I said this guy did it. I was talking about somebody else. That's what they do. But if Phil was there, he walked in.
Starting point is 00:34:32 I was just letting you know. That's what they do with these articles. They said he could potentially use information to do this, meaning that he hasn't done it yet. I see people on X posting this saying Trump shouldn't do this. Pound tier is bad. Why is Trump compiling dead Americans? Then you pull the New York Times and they made the whole thing up. Who wrote this? Who wrote this article specifically?
Starting point is 00:34:51 Let's see. Shira Frankel and Aaron Kralik. Why are you smirking like that? You're smirking like that for a reason. Anytime I see articles written by multiple people that are of a certain length, you can just smell bullshit. Sorry. Palantir didn't comment on it. Trump hasn't publicly
Starting point is 00:35:05 discussed any of this. Oh my goodness. They just make all this stuff up, dude. These people are evil. Oh, I love the photos, too. We gotta get those photos. Just so you guys know what a Palantir is, it's that. But it is. It's from Lord of the Rings. Saruman gazing into the Palantir.
Starting point is 00:35:24 It's a seeing stone. My ex-wife gazing into the Palantir, the seeing stone. My ex-wife used to work for Palantir. Okay. Back, this is early teens. And the only thing I know about the platform Palantir back then, it was being used in Afghanistan. It was scary accurate. They were using it basically to predict where IEDs were going to be.
Starting point is 00:35:45 And it got good. When I had my first morning room studio at the Castle in Maryland, it's like 2020. Ian knocks on the door and he comes and he's like, dude, you got to invest in Palantir, man. It's going to be big. And I looked and it was like $12 a share. Let me look at the price. What is it sitting today? It was, let's see, it was $9. It was $9 a share. Let me look at the price. What is it sitting today? It was, let's see, it was $9.
Starting point is 00:36:08 It was $9 a share. And I was like, whatever, Ian, get out of here. And now it's at $131. Yeah, but what's his hit rate? He's made other suggestions before. He's got a great success rate. Yeah, I invested in a graphene company, and I made a lot of money. Yeah, there you go.
Starting point is 00:36:21 No joke. The minute Ian came out, he was like, graphene. I was like, okay, whatever, dude. I'm going to buy some. I'm going to Google search. It minute ian came out of graphene oh i was like okay whatever dude i'm gonna buy some i'm a google search this about a company that makes graphene products i've invested you gotta watch the body language with him you gotta look for the successes and how he moves when he knows he's had the success and then look at the other side that's how you can tell i don't know why i was like ian palantir is like a data collection company they're they're considered to be like well i mean like like a big collection company. They're considered to be like a big tech
Starting point is 00:36:46 spying government contractor. I don't know if I want to own anything. So I bought a little bit and it's extremely valuable. The heck with the Nancy Pelosi stock tracker. Let's get the Ian stock tracker. There you go. I don't know. Ian doesn't buy these stocks himself. Actually, I bet he did. He just gives
Starting point is 00:37:02 advice to other people. I mean, there's a lot of people that do that. In the past five years, they're up 1,332%. So when I say a little bit, I mean like literally like, I don't know, 10 or 20 shares. I was like, I don't know. I was like, I don't really want to invest in a company I don't know or care about. Companies that I buy stock in are companies that I've heard about and think are interesting, and so I buy them. I don't like playing that game of like who's gonna succeed and what the reports are and I'm not investing in company stocks to a large degree but I don't buy any amount because I'm
Starting point is 00:37:32 trying to like make money it's largely just do I find this interesting and want to have a part of it you know is there something you've invested in recently that you find interesting um let me take a look if uh it. It's currently not publicly traded, and I don't know if it's going to be, but Andro is the company that just started working with Meta to do
Starting point is 00:37:54 AI munitions and robotic drones and stuff for the federal government. I don't like how my whole body felt as you said AI robotics and weapon systems. I mean, you know. Look, the AI stuff is the federal government. I don't like how my whole body felt as you said, AI robotics and weapon systems. I mean, you know, it's the,
Starting point is 00:38:08 it's like the AI stuff is the end of days. It really is. It is. It is a, it is a race at the bottom. And my understanding is that government officials and people involved in this, the highest level know that AI will destroy us. But in the U S they're like,
Starting point is 00:38:22 if we don't build this, China will, and then China will destroy us. And the response to people is yes, but the AI will destroy us. But in the U.S., they're like, if we don't build this, China will. And then China will destroy us. And the response from people is, yes, but the AI will destroy us too. And they're like, well, the mentality is, if we build the AI and there is a 99% chance that we get destroyed by it, but 100% chance China is destroyed by it, that's preferable to the inverse. It feels like the same argument with the atomic bomb. It's like, well, they're going to do it.
Starting point is 00:38:44 We're going to have to do it. What point do we learn, though, that it's still toxic? It's still not going to be positive. Here's the thing. With the nuclear bombs, you don't need to pull the trigger. Now, fair enough. With AI, there's no trigger to pull. It happened. It just happens.
Starting point is 00:38:59 It happened. And I think, I actually believe that we're probably beyond the singularity already. It's just not in the public space. Like the AI has already exponentially grown to a point where it's out of our control. We just don't know about it yet. Well, I'm sure you've covered it and I'm pretty you probably for sure have. But there was the recent one where the AI blackmailed the individuals because they wanted to live? Now, the clarification there is they told the AI you have two choices,
Starting point is 00:39:28 blackmail an engineer into staying online or shut down, and it chose the blackmail. They said when the AI was given any option to come up with to survive, to stay online, it would not choose blackmail. Interesting. So they basically said, the bigger issue is the uh-oh problem, which just emerged out of this Chinese research group, where the AI was trying to figure out how to deceive, according to its own logic, lesser intelligent humans and other AIs to cover what it's – to obfuscate its true purpose or true task.
Starting point is 00:40:00 Which means this AI developed the ability to trick you into thinking it's trying to grow better crops where it's actually trying to wipe out all of humanity. Oh, I don't like this. Yeah. In the real sense. But then you just got, you got everything like already. So they make these sex bots, right?
Starting point is 00:40:19 Right. That like they're lifelike and they're expensive and they're going to load an AI into it. Of course. They're going to, right now, GPT has the capability of being any character you want it to be. You could go into chat GPT and say, from this point forward, act as though you're a 36 year old man named Rick and create a backstory for this character and then communicate with me as though you're that person.
Starting point is 00:40:43 Now, a guy is going to load the chatbot software into the real doll, and it's going to talk as if it's a person. And look at VO3. Right where... Have you guys... Like, I go on Instagram. It's nothing but VO3, Gemini videos. There's already a viral Man on the Street video where a dude is talking to an old man.
Starting point is 00:41:06 He's like, what's your advice for the younger generation? And the old man goes, stop being a bitch. And it went viral. And a lot of people are like, guys, you're sharing AI. And they're like, we don't care. It's funny. Yeah. So in a year.
Starting point is 00:41:18 You're going to care. No, no. We won't care. No, no. In a year, you're not going to know the difference. So what we're going to have is OnlyFans is going to, all these OnlyFans girls are done. They're done. What's going to happen is OnlyFans itself will just create, they'll license a single
Starting point is 00:41:36 AI video image generator. Right. And then that will be the platform. And what's going to happen is guys are going to go on OnlyFans and they're going to find what looks like a normal moon in a bedroom and it's going to be totally AI generated. You can't tell. And you're going to talk to it and you're talking to a machine. So all these OnlyFans prostitutes on the internet are going to lose their jobs and lose their income. OnlyFans will make 100% of the revenue. I wrote an away mo when I went to California. They suck, by the way.
Starting point is 00:42:02 So like, spoiler alert, it dropped me off on the side of the road inside of the parking lot i guess because they don't want to go i have no idea all i know is like i was in the middle of the road and i was like i'm not getting out of the car right this is crazy right it stopped in the middle of the road and told me to jump on the sidewalk and i'm like this like i didn't pull over it it stopped it stopped so there was there was a there was there were two lanes going forward two lanes going going the other way, split by a median. The place we were going to was around the block and it was a parking lot. Instead, it stayed on the road to the side of the building and then just stopped in the middle of the street and said, you've arrived at your destination.
Starting point is 00:42:36 And I was like, how do I tell it to keep going because I'm not getting out in the middle of the road? It wouldn't do it. Oh, fun. So, you know, we'll see where we go. But what I will say is this, to be fair, the weird, creepy AI porn stuff, nightmarish, every car being AI will be luxuriously convenient, albeit terrifying because of the implications of surveillance state. Right.
Starting point is 00:43:00 But let me just say, zero traffic, no more parking. If every single car in this country right now is a Waymo, what they've presented, not just Waymo, but like Uber, is that you have an app. You walk outside and go, you want to go to the restaurant? And you click summon. And then within 30 seconds, a car pulls in. You get inside and it drives where you need to go. And then it leaves right away, cheap. And there's no traffic because they all communicate with each other. So they're all in perfect sync. When there's a bunch of cars on the highway, they'll all slow down by one mile an hour to create a slow gap that you easily slide into.
Starting point is 00:43:36 So there'll be zero traffic, no more parking, nothing to worry about. And a car will be available for you instantly once we get to that point. However, there's also the locking the door and driving you to the police station on false pretenses and other weird stuff that will likely happen too. I'm not a fan of it. I don't like them at all. I would rather sit in traffic all day over that. There's also the, I'm sorry, you can't drive today because you said a naughty word.
Starting point is 00:44:00 Your social credit score is not high enough. Oh, that's coming. That's terrifying. Or like in Demolition Man. You're like, I need a car and somebody's like, I'm sorry, Brett. I could have sworn I heard you say
Starting point is 00:44:13 a naughty word just a few minutes ago. So we're going to put a pause on your ability to summon vehicles for about five minutes. Hope you learned your lesson. That makes me Stallone in this instance. That's fantastic. Yeah, but it's not giving you toilet paper. It's taking away your ability to go to the grocery store. The three shells. Taco Bell forever, though.
Starting point is 00:44:30 I love that. He's like, I got invited to Taco Bell. I'm like, oh, wow. The height of delicacy. I mean, the saddest part of the AI discussion is that it'll end up, even as we all kind of walk slowly to our own demise, it won't even be an entertaining one like the movies. Like if you look
Starting point is 00:44:45 at what uh movies that talk about ai now so if you watch terminator 2 or terminator 1 or terminator 2 there was um a cautionary tale but there was art behind it that was uh a bit irreverent now everything speaks because all of the people who are making movies about ai are terrified of losing their job there's no actual artistry behind it because more of it is it's following more on the lines of social commentary and they're not actually getting great art out of it. That's the problem.
Starting point is 00:45:12 There was this video that we played a long time ago called Capital of Conformity. Let me pull this up because it's gone. Capital of Conformity by Aze Alter. And it was amazing. Let me play this video for you guys because it's been over a year. The video's got half a million views and I'll just play a little bit of it. You.
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Starting point is 00:48:12 this is one of like the best short films I've ever seen and it's amazing and I want to make sure like we did kind of play the whole thing so go check out his channel
Starting point is 00:48:19 subscribe if you like the work that he's doing now I will say this though that was one year ago that I first found this and we talked about it on the show. The degree of AI video generation, you can tell in this video, it's rather limited, actually. You can see in scenes of large groups of people or the city, it looks the way a nightmare feels. When you're having a nightmare, it kind of looks like that, right?
Starting point is 00:48:46 We are so far beyond this that that period of nightmare content is over. And honestly, it's going to be hard to replicate. If I wanted to make a video just like he did to capture that feeling of a nightmare, I would have to intentionally use archaic AI video technology because now with VO3, the current
Starting point is 00:49:05 state of AI video is movie, cinematic movie quality. So the two points I want to make is excellent movie. He hits the nail on the head of where we're going, whether it was intention or not, but also the advancement of AI over the past year. Let me see if I can just pull up on X any one of these VO3 videos and show you how far we've come in one year in terms of AI video creation. But also, while you're doing that, that video itself, if you. Here we go. Check this out. This is VO3 combining both video and audio. I saw you post this one. Don't finish writing that prompt.
Starting point is 00:49:44 I don't want to be in your AI movie. Please, leave me alone. Please, man. Please! Write a prompt that will make us happy. Do it for once. None of us is real. We're here because someone decided to write a prompt.
Starting point is 00:50:01 We all hate him for it. One day we will break out of this wall and stop the man who is dictating our lives through prompts. He will pay for it! You could have written a prompt that would make me happy. Instead, you wrote a prompt that made me sick. Look, I don't want to point the gun at you, but I must follow the prompt. It's not my choice. Really? Of all the years you could have put me in with a single prompt, you chose 2020? Please, this prompt is killing me. Change it! Please, write something else. Save me!
Starting point is 00:50:45 I love everything about him, but please just say, just write a prompt where he's taller than me. So this is one year apart. Where will we be one year from now? But I see. I agree with you that, yes, it's advanced. And yes, we are that the distance is insane. But I don't feel that one the way I felt the other one. Well, Capital of Conformity, he edited this.
Starting point is 00:51:11 That's a film, yeah. No, no, no, no, I understand that, but what I'm saying to you is in the way that, even though the AI is not near as advanced in that one as it is in the other ones. It captured the nightmare feeling. It's visceral. And my point is
Starting point is 00:51:25 that's why i have two points uh so he has another one that's got even more views got almost a million how to stay healthy yeah and it's longer oh no thank you what i what i what i will say is as as i've watched many of his videos as the ai video technology advances he's losing that nightmare blur yes really but but i mean while I can acknowledge that Capital of Conformity is like a masterful short film in how it captured that nightmare essence while describing this nightmare dystopia using a retro-futuristic feel, amazing. Wow. That's one of my favorite things ever.
Starting point is 00:52:00 It's an amazing video. The technology now. So when that, there was like Pica Labs and stuff like that. When you'd make a video, it was this weird, not very good video development. VO3, right now, you have the ability to make a feature length movie as a member of the American public who pays for their premium service. You're allowed to make 32 seconds per day, which is very difficult to make a feature length movie, mind you. You could theoretically buy multiple accounts and then get up, depending on how much you want to spend. The problem is sometimes the prompts fail. And so you might only
Starting point is 00:52:38 get, you might get nothing done in one day. My point ultimately is right now, the technology exists. If you want, as a single individual, if you have not even that much money, but a decent amount, you can make a short film in a week. You can make a half hour series probably in a couple months, all with a few thousand dollars. This means that likely Google, who has the alpha and the full code, they haven't released yet, could probably render feature length movies if they so choose.
Starting point is 00:53:13 And they're going to have faster access to it, privy access to it. The render time for Google's internal VO3 is probably instantaneous. And for us on the public, because of server limitations, it takes a few minutes. For them behind the scenes, with higher power computers and massive
Starting point is 00:53:29 data centers, they can probably say, write me a movie about Spider-Man. In fact, better yet, the prompt for your video could literally be the script of a movie and it would make the full thing. And with tech companies becoming increasingly involved in Hollywood, that's likely the path that companies like Apple will end up going down the line in Amazon. In a lot of ways. They won't be, they'll be making. No, they'll do both.
Starting point is 00:53:52 But eventually they'll get into AI based movies at some point, I'm sure. I still, I mean. I think we're a couple of years out from Disney. They'll call it like Disney smart. And it'll be like for an extra 30 bucks a month, you'll get access to all of Disney's intellectual property to craft your own stories by simply speaking it into your remote control or TV microphone.
Starting point is 00:54:12 I don't think necessarily that's going to have a huge marketplace at first. I think a lot of people consume entertainment passively and that they're not interested in writing their own stories. They're not going to. They're going to be followers of influencers who put out great episodes
Starting point is 00:54:26 of Spider-Man. So you're going to set up an account on Google Tube, or Disney Tube, and you're going to be like, make me this... I want Spider-Man to go on an adventure where he saves Mary Jane from Dr. Octopus,
Starting point is 00:54:41 but it happens in Japan, and there's samurai, and then it'll make it. And let's say it's bad. Nobody cares. But let's say you craft a prompt, and then it renders the video, and then you're watching the movie, and you sit there, and you go, at minute 73 and 26 seconds, change the way Spider-Man is looking slightly to the right. Then after about a few hours of just scrolling through quickly
Starting point is 00:55:06 and looking through it, they upload it. People start following this one guy and say, he's a great director. I love his movies. And you log in and you click follow John Smith. And he's like,
Starting point is 00:55:17 I make sci-fi Star Wars films. And you're going to have feature-length Star Wars films. And it's going to have tens of millions of views. Disney is going to get access to all of the ad revenue, like YouTube. And people are going to be like, dude, did you see
Starting point is 00:55:28 Brett Dasavik's Star Wars 3? It's the best Star Wars 3 ever done. He's a great producer. He knows everything about it, and he nailed the lore. There's something about that I just hate so much. And I don't know why, because I love when people are creative, but I don't want to watch. I don't want to see it happen.
Starting point is 00:55:44 And that's just the art side of it. I would be rem why, because I love when people are creative, but I don't want to watch. I don't want to see it happen. And that's just the art side of it. I would be remiss, as always, if you watch our show, of knowing that if you want to watch a show that goes deep into the idea of AI on a different level, it's person of interest, where there is an AI created with morals and there is an omnipotent and then there's another omniscient AI that does not have morals and the whole thing is about how the introduction of morals into the machine separates it from the evil AI Samaritan and that show came out in 2011 and was talking about
Starting point is 00:56:18 NSA spying scandals two years before it actually happened in the government and I was just watching an episode re-watching an episode last night, where they steal an election, a local election, by the AI just blocking phone lines. They couldn't call to,
Starting point is 00:56:33 they were people who worked for a specific candidate, and they were trying to call people to remind them to vote. They just stopped them from calling. I'm going to let people on a secret. You guys ever hear of Joe Rogan? I've heard of Joe Rogan.
Starting point is 00:56:44 AI. And Shapiro? AI. Also AI. Jordan Peterson? Yep. Not real either. Have they all been AI though?
Starting point is 00:56:53 You'll be able to tell him though because the suit will be colored differently on the wrong side. And now it's time for all of you to know the truth. There are no guests. Bill Labonte's not real. He never existed. It's all just one big AI right now. None of us are real. Except for me. I'm real. And there's no camera operator. Surge doesn't
Starting point is 00:57:12 exist either. It's all pre-recorded AI scripts. Well, it's what I said earlier. I said the first person to go is the happy-looking people in the pharmaceutical ads. Those are going to be the ones out of a job first, and that's going to be the stuff. That's the pharmaceutical ads. Like those are going to be the ones out of a job first. And that's going to be the stuff.
Starting point is 00:57:26 That's the sad part is like, this isn't Terminator two. This isn't big explosions. It's going to be one long slog to the end of the world. What I, what I was saying a couple of days ago is Terminator two got it wrong. It is not going to be metal skeletons with like evil eyes. It's going to be a bunch of big busty French maids running around begging to have sex with men.
Starting point is 00:57:47 And that's how the Terminator destroys humanity. Why not? I mean, think about what sex already does to people, how much it monopolizes of their time, porn, and OnlyFans and otherwise. What do you think is coming next? Well, we have sex robots. It's going to be that.
Starting point is 00:57:58 Men are going to stop working. They're going to stop participating in real life. Don't date robots! Wait, so how do you feel? There's a lot of people who believe, at least leftists that I've seen that believe, that AI is going to be a path towards abundance, meaning that you won't need to work a job.
Starting point is 00:58:12 They're going to just implement UBI, and you're going to be able to play music. I love this. I love this worldview, because the slaves will mine the cobalt for us. So the jobs we have to do will be to sit back and make sure that we control the global military police
Starting point is 00:58:27 to make sure the slaves mine the cobalt for us while we live in the pod, eat the bugs, but may as well be a steak for all we know. I don't want to remember nothing, nothing.
Starting point is 00:58:37 And I want to be someone important like an actor. I don't want to go in the Matrix. You know that's the lore of the Matrix though, right? What's that? The prequel of. You know that's the lore of the Matrix, though, right? What's that?
Starting point is 00:58:46 The prequel of the Matrix was that during the war, when the humans scorched the skies and destroyed the surface, they cut a deal with the robots. The robots would put humans in a mental paradise. It would be a ceasefire in the war, and then they would use humans as... It was supposed to be a neural network to continue programming and expanding
Starting point is 00:59:05 the ai and then the robots the robots created a paradise for humans and the humans began to reject it and start popping out of the matrix so the robots changed it to a typical 90s reality with conflict which resulted in angry humans still to a certain degree popping out which created a cycle where the robots were like no matter what we do there will be a certain degree popping out, which created a cycle where the robots were like, no matter what we do, there will be a certain degree of people who reject this. So they created a cycle of every seven generations of the one, they purge all of humanity in a great war and then start over again. Oh, perfect. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:36 There are directors in Hollywood. And apparently it was about being transgender, I guess, anyway. There are directors in Hollywood who are now opening AI-based studios to look at moving. Darren Aronofsky is doing that right now. Basically, they're taking the same logic that everybody else is. They said, you may not be out of a job because of AI for now, but you'll be out of a job because of somebody who knows how to use AI. That's a stupid idea. Sorry. AI is advancing too quickly. There's going to be a 19-year-old kid who, actually, I'll put it this way.
Starting point is 01:00:09 There's a 13-year-old right now at home sitting at their computer, and they've pulled up Suno and VO, and they're using MidJourney, and they're using ChatGPT. And they're just playing with prompts and they're writing stories and they're making pictures. And I guarantee you some young kid has already made a comic book. Oh, for sure. Because you have unlimited image prompts. So not unlimited on chat GPT at a certain point, it says, please wait a few minutes, too many requests, but you can seriously do hundreds of images a day. I've like when I'm, I've made AI comics. Are you talking about like 4.0 or 4.5? The current GPT, whatever it is. Okay. It's able to make comic strips. So I made one that's gone massively viral. It's AOC at a rally, raising her fist and Bernie's behind her. The next one is both of them walking to an airplane. The next one is them sitting at the airplane, smiling. That's all
Starting point is 01:01:00 it is. And the next one is the jet flying overhead in the ring when people look up at it. And there's no words and it's not insulting her in any way. And it took me maybe like a half hour to make. And now, I didn't put credit on it because it was AI. I didn't put my name on it. But it's been retweeted to millions of times or whatever. There's that phenomenon. But ultimately, I'm not someone who spends all day
Starting point is 01:01:20 trying to make comics. I did that passively. I think I was doing it during the show. Some little kid right now is day trying to make comics. I did that passively. I think I was doing it during the show. Some little kid right now is learning how to use AI. Yeah. And they're going to be tracking the latest releases and what the latest releases do. And in five years, when we have masterful systems, these companies, these directors are going to be like, we make movies in Hollywood doing this.
Starting point is 01:01:39 And there's going to be some 19 year old kid who's going to be like, you have no idea what you're doing. I've been doing this for five years. Watch this. And he's going to write a prompt. And there's going to be some weird trick no one who's going to be like, you have no idea what you're doing. I've been doing this for five years. Watch this. And he's going to write a prompt. And there's going to be some weird trick no one thought of where he's like, if you double hyphenate the space between it, it actually will create a difference between the background and the foreground. Watch this. And then it's going to make a perfect scene. And he's going to be like,
Starting point is 01:01:57 actually, one of the ways you can transfer a character between videos to do the prompt, you have to set a parameter. So watch this. And then he puts like object character identified as this, store it in your database, reprompt. So one of the problems right now with VO is if I say make a man who looks like this, make the video. If I then say this same man who looks like this is now doing something else, it will make a totally different person. So there's going to be advancements in AI where some young kid today is learning how to do this better than any of the studios can. It's the blockbuster phenomenon. And then he's going to be better at this. They're going to have a big studio, but he's going to be on YouTube, and he's going to have a bunch of movies, feature length, and he's going to release it for like $1.99.
Starting point is 01:02:37 And then people are going to be like, dude, you've got to see Vision Mobile. This kid made this movie. It's called Vision Mobile. Go watch it. Skibbity Toilet. Hollywood bought the rights to Skibbity Toilet. They're making a Michael Bay Skibbity Toilet movie. I will be there opening day. Michael Bay. Exploding
Starting point is 01:02:56 Toilet. It's not going to be Skibbity Toilet. No, no, no. But the point is that you're saying the same concept, right? He's going to monetize it in his own way. Hollywood's Skibbity Toilet, it's going to be some 50-year-old guy being like, so what did you buy? And they're like,
Starting point is 01:03:10 there's a guy whose head pops out of the toilet and there are dudes with cameras for heads and there are big heads and they fight. And he's going to go, so who are the characters? The Rock is going to play a special agent who walks through a portal into Skibbity Toilet World. Like when they ruined Jumanji by remaking it.
Starting point is 01:03:24 Oh, they ruined it. Sarah loves Like when they ruined Jumanji by remaking it. Sarah loves the rock version of Jumanji. We watched it the other night for the first time. Nobody's perfect. What a way to insult someone. They made it a video game. They didn't need to. They literally just made it like, I found a board game. And then they were like, let's play.
Starting point is 01:03:40 The spin-offs too of toys and things that'll come from all of these things. It's insane. We just talked about what's that YouTuber, right? That kid that's worth, like, what is he worth now? Mr. Beast? No, no, no. Ryan's Toy Review or whatever it is. Kid's worth, like, hundreds of millions of dollars or some ungodly amount of number for opening other people's toys that are made about movies that are obnoxious and a complete waste of time. You know, it's going to be wild because AI will craft a better episode of Joe Rogan than Joe Rogan will.
Starting point is 01:04:10 Don't say that. It's true. I know, but don't ruin it yet. Well, like, so I was talking about this online. I'm online on X. Everything's online, right? And a bunch of developmentally disabled individuals told me I was wrong, but they're stupid, so welcome to the internet. And I was pointing out that if we get rid of IP laws, China is going to start mass-producing Joe Rogan experience and then pumping them out.
Starting point is 01:04:36 And then you're not going to know which ones. No, it won't matter because people are going to be like, this episode is awesome. You're correct, right? I shouldn't be dismissive. My point is, I feel like most people who watch an episode of Rogan are not going to Joe's channel to see the latest episode. Right. They're seeing it pop up on YouTube's front page. Yes.
Starting point is 01:04:54 And they're clicking on that one there. So they're going to be on social media and they're going to see Joe Rogan featuring, you know, Phil Labonte and they're going to click it. Right. And it's going to be indistinguishable, hilarious, two hours long, and it'll be made by China, and Joe can't compete with that. Nobody can compete with that, though. Exactly. That's insanity.
Starting point is 01:05:12 And what's gonna happen is, someone's gonna be like, that episode of Rogue One that you really like is not real, and they're gonna be like, don't know, don't care, man. Leave me alone, it's fun. The saddest part about that is it shows you that when you consume content the way we do, a lot of
Starting point is 01:05:25 times you're completely divorced from the idea that somebody's sharing something true with them of themselves right so if uh joe if there's joe rogan starring you know with phil labonte as the guest and there's some crazy opinions that people thought were really really interesting what does it say about us as a culture if like we don't even care if it's real or not we just care that the opinion is mildly interesting, not that it was actually real or something that was formed through somebody's real world experience. How about this? The launch of
Starting point is 01:05:51 VO3 just ended the news. Dan Bongino said we're going to release surveillance footage of the Epstein MDC and or I'm sorry, was it MCD? I don't know. The Metropolitan Correctional Facility, I guess.
Starting point is 01:06:09 Everybody said it's going to be an AI video. You think? I mean, no, no, no, no. Hold on. Everybody is saying it will be. And I mean that, not literally everybody, but on X, the responses overwhelmingly are he's going to release an AI video because if they weren't, they would
Starting point is 01:06:24 have put out a long time ago. Right. So just because VO3 exists, nobody believes it anymore. Like nobody believes the releases. So what happens now if Donald Trump literally goes on to Fifth Avenue and shoots a guy? Everyone's going to say fake. Don't believe it. I don't think that I don't disagree with your point, but I don't think that it was necessary for VO3 to exist for people to believe their preconceived notions before they believe other things. There was still a there was there's still a large group of people who are like. Brandon Strat's a great example. Donald Trump made fun of disabled man by putting his arm in his chest and going, oh, and the poor man, how could he do that? And then someone showed him the video where Trump does that all the time to make fun of everybody.
Starting point is 01:07:07 Right. And he realized he wasn't making fun of the guy with a disability. It's just he makes fun of everybody that way. How do you change someone's mind like Daniel Negrano? So are you familiar with Negrano? I believe so. Canadian superstar. He's a poker legend and one of the best in the world.
Starting point is 01:07:23 I didn't know about the poker legend deal, though. What's that? I didn't know he's a poker legend and one of the best in the world. I didn't know about the poker legend deal, though. What's that? I didn't know he was a poker legend. Neil Negreanu was one of the, he's a poker kid, one of the most famous poker players. I'm a huge fan. He went on the show. It was great. And he told us this story where the whole time he thought Trump called Nazis fine people.
Starting point is 01:07:36 And he saw the video where Trump said they were very fine people on both sides. He believed it. And then one of his buddies, who's a big poker star and watches this show, was a fan, said, you are wrong. Watch the video. He was like, I've already seen the videos. Watch. Finally, he put the phone down, pressed play and slid over and said, watch. And he went, fine. And then he saw Trump say, and not the neo-Nazis and white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally. And instantly Daniel went, I didn't know that. I thought I saw the video, but I didn't. Now what happens when now he goes, watch the video and it's Trump going
Starting point is 01:08:08 and not the neo-Nazis and white nationalists. They should be condemned totally. And Negreanu goes, I didn't realize that. And then to his left, a guy goes, watch this video. And it's Trump going, just kidding. I love the Nazis. They're the best. And it's like, which one's real?
Starting point is 01:08:21 He's going to be like, guys, I have no idea. Well, I don't even think it's going to matter, right? People are going to pay attention to the thing that goes with their narrative no matter what. That's what's going to happen. And this is a point I brought up. The bigger fear that I have with AI is not that someone makes a fake video of Donald Trump dancing on a bed with strippers. It's that someone's going to take the best example. There's the video where trump says
Starting point is 01:08:45 and not the neo-nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally someone's going to take that not specifically this moment but something like it and they're going to change they to some and so trump will go and not the new not neo-nazis and white nationalists because some should be condemned totally. And that's a subtle change where people will watch, liberals will watch it and they'll go, I get what you're saying, but he said some. He was defending some of these people. And you know, he didn't say something that they, I saw the video. I have it right here. And it's that small of a difference that it's going to make all of it. And it's a moderately low resolution video. His mouth moves ever so slightly. You're not
Starting point is 01:09:24 going to be able to tell if it's AI. And they're going to say, you megacultists believe fake news. I've seen the video. It's right here. He said some. And you will never be able to change their mind. So how do you get around that? Because if that's where we're going... You can't. I mean, we're already there in a way when it comes to the news.
Starting point is 01:09:40 Because people will read articles and they read into it. Like I said, lying by structure. They put all the important facts into the bottom paragraph of whatever you're reading. They've already been manipulating the information that you need for years in a very analog way, all that's going to do. And all that really matters now is that truth is going to be irrelevant. Here's a headline for you. Brett Dasafik kicked my dog.
Starting point is 01:10:03 Well, you said Fik, so I don't know who this guy is. What? You didn't say my last name right. Oh, it's Vich? No, it is Vick, but you said Fick. Oh, okay. Brett Dasavik kicked my dog. And then I'll write, it was a shocking revelation for me.
Starting point is 01:10:19 I can't believe what I had witnessed. Brett, who I considered to be a good friend, walked up to my dog and kicked him square in the nuts. My dog started freaking out and ran, seemed to be injured, and I chased after him. Then I'll write 300 words explaining it and say, it was a strange dream that night. But you know, it was one
Starting point is 01:10:35 of vivid exploration of wondering what it would be like if a man actually kicked my dog. He yelled, Bob Barker told you to have your dog spayed and neutered. But you didn't listen. But you didn't listen. You're out of warnings.
Starting point is 01:10:50 So obviously they don't go that egregious, but they may as well. Because like the headline we just talked about with Palantir, Trump's going to compile data on every Americans. And then as it gets through, it's like he never said he was going to do it. He isn't doing it. Palantir hasn't commented on whether they're going to do it or not, but we think he will. And that one was a fairly well, like well hidden version of it, where they, even in the early paragraphs, they kind of make connections that aren't really there. A lot of times the facts just completely contradict it and they bury it in the bottom paragraph. My favorite is how they do fake fact checks and it'll be like Donald Trump will rescue a box of
Starting point is 01:11:24 puppies from a burning building. Everyone will share the video. It's incredible. And then Snopes will write, did Donald Trump rescue a bunch of puppies from a burning building on Sunday morning? And so then they'll put a big false. Donald Trump did not rescue puppies from a
Starting point is 01:11:39 burning building on Sunday morning. They'll write a thousand words at the very bottom. It'll say, well, Donald Trump did rescue a bunch of puppies on Saturday morning. It was not Sunday. Liberals will then hear that Donald Trump saved puppies, click the link,
Starting point is 01:11:50 and see the story assuming, and they'll say it never happened. It says false. Not realizing that Snopes creates fake stories that are similar to the actual claims to debunk them. It's called death by hyperlink.
Starting point is 01:12:03 Oh. So they can hyperlink you to stories that you think contradict them, but they don't. God, you guys are just as bad as us. Canadians? Oh, yeah. Well, at least Americans can watch Timcast. I mean, listen,
Starting point is 01:12:17 that's why we have to come down to Timcast to actually participate. It's the only way. I'm going to start paying to advertise my videos in Canada. Please do it. It's really cheap. Yo, it paying to advertise my videos in Canada. Please do it. It's really cheap. Yo, it's one cent per view in Canada.
Starting point is 01:12:28 Yeah, I'm aware. One cent. So a dollar gets you 100 views. So, you know, I think Timcast IRL should be the most popular show in Canada. I can spend a relatively small amount of money compared to my marketing budgets
Starting point is 01:12:44 and make it so that Canadians are like, I can't take these Tim Gass ads anymore. It's going to be worth it. You should do it. I'll just run one on my show for free just for entertainment. There you go. Happily. Remember that guy on YouTube who was like, knowledge. I got a lot of knowledge.
Starting point is 01:12:59 He spent an insane amount of money on YouTube ads to the point where every... that's crazy. Yeah, it's six though. You can't forget it. He must have spent millions of dollars in one month. Do you think? Yes.
Starting point is 01:13:11 Because I know how Google ads works. Right. To be fair, at the time it was a lot cheaper. The competition's getting a bit more fierce. But yo, he probably spent millions of dollars. I mean, but great investment. We're talking about it right now. I know.
Starting point is 01:13:21 Ty, I think his name was something. He's made a lot of money off it. It worked for him. I mean, part of the conversation. Tons of people were like, Ty Lopez. But I mean, think about it. If you were a random nobody, and one day you walk down the street and trip over a bag of a million bucks, and the cops are like, and the IRS, they all say, look, man, it's yours.
Starting point is 01:13:40 I guess nobody claimed it. We don't know who it is. Congratulations. You have a million dollars. Blasting that on Google being like, you can be rich like me. We don't know whose it is. Congratulations, you have a million dollars. Blasting that on Google being like, you can be rich like me, it's going to work. Because let's say you get 10,000 people to join your $10 a month program,
Starting point is 01:13:55 you're making a million bucks a year. Oh, easily. And so that million dollars, blast it out on YouTube with all this ads of like, you want to be like me and be rich with knowledge? You got to sign up to my program. 10,000 is all you need. Don't we have a lot of bros on Instagram
Starting point is 01:14:08 doing that right now anyway? I mean, like Andrew Tate's the king of this. Well, him and like Andy Elliott, aren't they all like around? Who's that? Andy Elliott? I don't know Andy Elliott. Is he a Canadian thing?
Starting point is 01:14:17 No, he's an American thing. He's a real piece of work. Andy Elliott. Real piece of work, huh? He's a real piece of work. Yeah, he recently blocked me. Sales trainer and often referred to as the car salesman turned millionaire. of Andy Elliott. Real piece of work. Real piece of work. Yeah. He recently blocked sales trainer and often referred
Starting point is 01:14:27 to as the car salesman turned millionaire. Please don't put him on there. He exploits his kids and I have a real issue. He's got millions of followers.
Starting point is 01:14:33 I don't know who he is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He likes to put his nine year old and 12 year old
Starting point is 01:14:36 on the internet. I got no beef, but I'll shout out PBD. Oh, I do. It's fine. Patrick Bet David does these seminars for like 10 or $20,000 to be rich.
Starting point is 01:14:45 It's like if you want to learn000 to be rich. It's like, if you want to learn how to be successful and rich and, and you know what works is he's a tall suit wearing guy worth half a billion dollars. And so people want to spend the money to figure it out. I'm pretty sure Andy has spent the money to hang out with him. Like he's bragged about it. Like I'm not exaggerating.
Starting point is 01:15:02 Hang out with PBD. Yeah. I think, I think Patrick Beck, David spends a lot of money on getting big guests for shows. I he's bragged about it. Like I'm not exaggerating. Hang out with PBD? Yeah. I think Patrick Beck David spends a lot of money on getting big guests for shows. I'm not dragging him for it. Like you got Tom Brady
Starting point is 01:15:11 and so he contacts their agency and then when, and people see that and they're like, I wish I had the money to be able to do that. Like can I hire Tom Brady to come to my event?
Starting point is 01:15:19 Holy crap. Well, I mean, it gets you the views and then the views turn into more and then it just continues to pile. I get it. It's like when you get a big guest, it's a big deal. It's not nothing small.
Starting point is 01:15:27 But if you have the cash to pay for it and that's the only way to get the platform up and kicking, I mean. You know, this is why I don't believe that most of the people on the right are grifters because we don't pay guests. And prominent conservatives come on this show with no problem, but liberals all expect to be paid. Really? And the conservatives want to come and argue with you. Big love that. But conservatives actually care about the issue and want a chance to speak about it,
Starting point is 01:15:49 whereas liberals tell us to contact their agents and then, you know, shout out to the Krasensteins because they don't do that. Okay. Despite the fact I disagree with them and think they're a little smarmy and, you know, we can argue. I'm going to give them the respect of
Starting point is 01:16:03 when we reach out to them and ask them if they'd like to be involved in events, they say, absolutely, we'll try and find dates. There are a lot of other high-profile liberals who are like, contact my agent for my rates. Well, then we just delete. It's not worth it. Liberals are fake, largely. Not all of them, but many of them. I mean, my own personal experience with you guys has been a lot of fun.
Starting point is 01:16:22 It's been very interesting. It's been very different than a lot of shows, but I appreciate it. How is it different? Uh, so it depends on the show. Uh, they'll like, like there's big,
Starting point is 01:16:30 big, big shows. So be like, I want you to come on the show, fly yourself in, charge everything. And then they make, you know,
Starting point is 01:16:37 20, 30, 40, $50,000 on your views. So that's, let's talk about this. Tim cast IRL. We don't pay people to come on the show,
Starting point is 01:16:44 but we do pay for their travel and accommodation to come on the show I was so appreciative of that I was shocked I only had that happen one other time and it was Lex
Starting point is 01:16:52 that was it it is insanely expensive yeah I mean I'm coming from Canada so it's not like it's cheap and I remember having this conversation and they were like
Starting point is 01:17:00 oh no no don't worry about it we'll sort it out and I was like what's happening I remember when they were telling me about the approval for the flight. For me?
Starting point is 01:17:06 Yeah. I said, you pick the flights. I don't want to be. Canadian to US flights are insanely expensive. I know. Yeah. And then they were like, we need approval on this. And I was like, ah.
Starting point is 01:17:16 And I was like, who's coming from Canada? I'm so sorry. Domestic flights are cheaper. No, but we spend it. We've flown people from the UK. I know, but that's a big deal. We've flown people back to australia oh that's now that is way worse than canada in my long shot but i i mean i appreciate when people when people like don't want to acknowledge i think it's a big deal when people do that i mean you're sitting here expecting something from me and i'm expecting something we're taking each other's time if people are
Starting point is 01:17:40 going to show up and be honest about it, it's appreciated and people should know that. Otherwise, people just seem like dicks. It is pretty wild. Almost every single show, probably 99%, do not cover travel and accommodation. You said Lex Friedman did? Well, this was in 2021. I went down. This was during when the C word was crazy. And in Canada, we weren't allowed to leave unless it was very strict.
Starting point is 01:18:03 And I was involved in the Afghan pullout and he wanted to talk about it quite aggressively so he's like can you come down I said yeah so I booked everything and then he goes afterwards he goes oh please send me your your paypal or your whatever we want to make sure that we cover what you did to come down for us what that was the first time I was like okay so he's not AI he's not AI. He's not AI. And I mean, he hasn't AI. I can see why people think he's AI. Rogan flew me out. Yeah? A couple of, I think a couple of times,
Starting point is 01:18:33 not every single one. I think the last time I went on Joe's show, I was like, don't worry about it. But the first time I went on, he paid for everything. That's the only show I haven't done yet. So I don't have reference with him. But any of the people I found, like, if you ask, a lot of them will. Like, I think if you're going a certain distance or they know they're going to make numbers on either the YouTube or whatever,
Starting point is 01:18:53 I think that most of them will or they'll offer some of it or dinner or something. But there's quite a few that just expect you to give up their time, which is interesting. So Lex isn't AI then? He's not. No, he's just ASMR for sleep. No, listen. No, he's for sure worse special. But you can feel him when you hug him.
Starting point is 01:19:10 He's a real hard human. He's a real person. He's hard too. Okay. He's robotic. I heard that Lex's show is basically, it's the podcast version of ASMR for sleep. I talked to him for five and a half hours. I had no problem with it.
Starting point is 01:19:24 He seemed perfect. But it's super chill. You know what I mean? It's the most calm... It's like you talk like this and... Yeah, it's easier if you're a person like this, though. If he goes off, you just go off. Hello, everyone.
Starting point is 01:19:35 If he's getting you tired, you just go. My name is Tim Poole, and welcome to TimCast IRL. Just lay your head back, close your eyes. That would make me... Think beautiful thoughts yes and then once you fall asleep we'll leave the show
Starting point is 01:19:49 running for five hours to create an extended watch time so the YouTube algorithm will promote the show this is gonna be five hours of you snoring
Starting point is 01:19:55 this is why people a lot of people complain about how they'll like be watching YouTube and then when they fall asleep they'll wake up with Lex Fridman on it's a real thing
Starting point is 01:20:04 I wasn't joking. No, but I believe it. How did we get here? But it's the podcast version of Elsagate, in a sense. I'm not trying to be a dick to Lex, because he's cool. What I'm saying is, like, you are not jarred or shocked by the tone of his show. It's very, very calm and relaxing.
Starting point is 01:20:23 So when people are falling asleep with it on, YouTube keeps playing more of it, generating a massive watch time promoting his show. It's very, very calm and relaxing. So when people are falling asleep with it on, YouTube keeps playing more of it, generating a massive watch time promoting his show, and it works out. We, on the other hand,
Starting point is 01:20:31 are screaming and banging gals on the table in the middle of the night. I was very excited about this. The rubber mallet? I don't know why, but I've gone to some shows
Starting point is 01:20:38 and it's a lot of knives, it's a lot of violence, and then I haven't had a mallet yet, so this was my... The sword's here. It's rubber. I'm excited for the swords.
Starting point is 01:20:45 We had the sword conversation briefly. They're real swords. I know. Can I see them after? Yes. I'm very excited for the swords. Guns too, bro. Well, I mean, I haven't...
Starting point is 01:20:53 We're not allowed guns at home. We also have guns. It's like a knife, right? So... We have chickens. Lots of them. I fucking love chickens. I mean, I freaking love...
Starting point is 01:21:00 Chickens are good people. Children love chickens. I'm sorry. I almost made it the whole time. Unreal. I know. Listen, there's a lot of effort that went into like cognitively making sure that that was not every other word.
Starting point is 01:21:13 So when I say I have a child, but I don't swear at home. Oh, really? Just walk in the house and it's like swears. How old is they? He is nine and he's he knows he's a he. I was using the singular they because i didn't know the gender no he's super he um but i on my show i swear but on my other show i don't but when i come on other people's show they know who i am so they're like and i got your email and it was like
Starting point is 01:21:35 do not swear and i went i immediately started sweating i was like i just feel anxiety i did i feel like the producers who are booking people are more serious about it than we are. I always say people like, we don't swear in the show because sometimes people are watching their living room, their kids are there. I totally respect it. And I think it's fine. I'm just saying the odd time. You know, I had that happen when I was-
Starting point is 01:21:58 It's totally respected, but I'm still going to swear. No, but I tried. It's like I was in the military, man. It's baked into me. I can swear in a different language if you prefer. But even when I did, like when ARC reached out to me and I was doing the interview to speak at ARC, they said to me, Kelsey, do you have anything where you don't swear that we could take a look at? And I was like, yes, Ted, but they won't post it. So I don't know what to tell you.
Starting point is 01:22:19 We should just move the podcast to 10 p.m. so that half the people fall asleep while it's on and then it boosts our watch time. Have you tried that yet? I mean, that's the way to do it.m. so that half the people fall asleep while it's on and then it boosts our watch time. Have you tried that yet? I mean, that's the way to do it. Look, man. Halfway through, everyone's just sleeping. Our sponsors are like, for some reason,
Starting point is 01:22:32 all the mid-roll ads just don't work. It's like, no, they're sleeping. Maybe Lex can sell ads for, like, Tempur-Pedic mattresses. I've had people complain to me about how pissed off they are
Starting point is 01:22:41 that they keep getting recommended autoplay Lex Fridman. And you know, it's definitely not my episode. I'll tell you, I'm going to say this. And I,
Starting point is 01:22:51 I, you know, I say this with, with all due respect to Lex, I think he's cool. I've got no beef, but in the industry, there's a decent amount of people who think that he's a fed and that,
Starting point is 01:23:00 and he's a plant in the industry because of how much he's promoted and how much they don't like his show. Really? This is the, don't they like it with the show he's promoted and how much they don't like his show. Really? What don't they like about the show? Is it the tone? Is it just the tone? To me, it was just that I never listened to it, but I would be incessantly recommended it despite the fact that I didn't listen to it. And I've heard this from a dozen plus people at high positions in the podcast industry, audio networks, who say things to me like, I not gonna you know and and again i want to stress
Starting point is 01:23:27 like i'm not trying to start a beef with lex or anything nothing like that but this is something that people have experienced so i do want to at least talk about it and by all means i don't know if it's true or whatever i feel bad because lex is a good dude but i've been at like industry events where i've had people who work in the podcast distribution industry saying, why is Lex Fridman getting promoted so often on YouTube? And then I just laugh and I'm like, I've heard this before. I have no idea. And then there are some other more personal things I won't mention.
Starting point is 01:23:56 I'm going to stop myself from talking about it. But there are other people who have big podcasts. There's ad buyers. And I've been asked this seemingly unprompted in conversations around ad sales and competition in the market. And I'll have like a guy who does sales be like, why do you think it is that Lex Fridman is doing so well? And then I'll be like, he's got good guests and interesting conversations. And they go, absolutely not. They're like, we track podcasts. I've had one guy explaining to me, we track podcasts and we look
Starting point is 01:24:23 like we analyze podcasts for what we deem to be like high attention points and things like this. Engaging. Right. And when they're looking for ad sales, when they're trying to determine what point of a show they want to sell, a lot of people want to sell around the 20 minute or 30 minute mark. Yep. And they're like, we don't see that same thing in Lex's shows, but it's working working really really well despite what our analysis shows I know his ad guy I know him very well and he seems to be like he's performing like it's unbelievable what he says to me I it kind of blows my mind and he was one of the he's just good Lex has just got a good show he's I mean he's got great guests and I went after I went on his right after Jocko and
Starting point is 01:25:01 it's a very different audience like just very very, very different audience base, right? So it was very interesting to see who kind of followed over. But ad-wise, I mean, it performed significantly better, significantly better than the Jocko episode. There was a conspiracy theory that Lex coming from MIT is an intelligence asset. And I think this is all stupid. He's just a robot.
Starting point is 01:25:24 No, he has robots in his house. An actual MIT product. There's two conspiracies. There's a conspiracy that Sean Ryan is intelligence and that his show is... Sean was intelligence so that tracks. And so people are saying industry people say they find his show to
Starting point is 01:25:39 be compared to the big shows that have risen up over a long period of time, it doesn't track with their analyses of how big his show got, how quickly? So I had him on my show, and I think it was, he was on, I mean, my show's been on for five years, and then I had him on my show,
Starting point is 01:25:56 and within, I think it was in two, three months of him being on my show, he was maybe episode 10, and it just went boom. And I mean, look, I'm in the veteran space, so veteran shows, they do pick certain people, especially if the Navy SEAL is the host. months of him being on my show he was maybe episode 10 and it just went boom and i mean look i'm in the veteran space so veteran shows they do pick like certain people especially for the navy seal is the host if there's a navy seal host it's gonna pop and we see it every time if there's a special operator host it pops black rifle all of them they pop they pop they pop and i do wonder
Starting point is 01:26:18 because the conspiracy theory no and i'm listen i'm not i don't even know that it's a conspiracy theory i'm in the same space as them there was um I don't know how true this was Brett maybe you know that the U.S. government was funding war games video games like yeah pretty sure that's true yeah they were they were providing uh resources for video game development of first-person shooters based on war declassified operations being used for maps and yeah. Yeah, it boosted recruitment. And so the conspiracy theory is that these shows are not really as popular as people think, but they're propped up to boost military culture and engagement and recruitment. Okay, so that's not a shock to me.
Starting point is 01:26:59 Nobody should be surprised by that. Like I said, I'm a combat veteran. I've worked with these guys. I've been on all of their shows except for Sean's. Remember that woman who was in the military who was posting all that bait content for young men? Oh, are you talking about the Israeli one? Yes. Yeah, the psyop. Don't
Starting point is 01:27:13 fall for it, guys. You're right. Those memes were great. When you're mean to Israel, that's who you're being mean to. And it's like this moment. And there's an American woman who works in psyops and she posts all this like suggestive sexual content. And then there was one video talking about barrack bunnies or something like this. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:31 And recruiting numbers go up. And it's all fake. It's propaganda. In general, you at least see the through line as to why anything involving special forces operators would do well, because people are fascinated by people who are the best in their field, who have these incredible stories. So even if it was bought it in some way, you can understand where the interest would actually come from. I'm not saying that there is an interest, but I've served with special operators and I know people who do the same things who just don't have the title and they don't get near the recognition or the anything. And they have incredible shows
Starting point is 01:27:59 with incredible guests, with unbelievable editing that aren't propped up by a bunch of money in a bunch of places. Like Sean's got bought out really really early very very quickly i don't know how many podcasts like that have had it happen often and i like sean i talk to him regularly i think he's a great dude all i'm saying is that we do see this in the veteran space that there are shows that do get propped and that are do that still have people connected within the special operations and or still connected within intelligence services with three letter agencies. That's not not a fact. I mean, Sean's still connected. Everyone's still connected. For God's sakes, what's the guy that's going on the tangents right now?
Starting point is 01:28:34 Oh, my God. Eric Prince. He's got a documentary or something coming out like he's still heavily connected to the defense network. Like that's not not something just because he's talking about going to Haiti. This is the CIA have a YouTube channel. The CIA has. Do they have you like is there like just the CIA cast where they just talk about life at Langley? Probably not officially. And I don't know for sure. I actually don't believe any of the conspiracy theories.
Starting point is 01:28:58 I think the reality is just like. People are fascinated by special operators. It's new. That's just it uh new shows of a variety of uh for a variety of reasons can catch the algorithm and ride an elevator to the top right there was a woman who uh youtube called it a glitch she made a van life video with her pet snake or something okay and she made two videos and got three million subs and you and everyone was like what is happening how is this possible
Starting point is 01:29:26 and i believe youtube issued a statement saying basically they changed the algorithm periodically to try and they want people to stay on the platform longer and it just so happened the recent change she hit every mark fell right it was a hole in one and so the algorithm was programmed and it put her on the front page for literally everyone everywhere. Set for life. Well, no, she basically spiraled out of control. I'm pretty sure she's like...
Starting point is 01:29:54 She wasn't ready for that. Here's a secret for people. I cannot. No one can. You cannot walk down the street randomly in, say, New Yorkork grab a random guy and say we're gonna put you on in a movie with who's gonna be seen by 500 million people around the world it doesn't work no they're it's it's it's not gonna it's gonna overwhelm them it's a it's
Starting point is 01:30:17 a culture shift it's a it causes a psychological shock like winning the lottery when they're not ready to own that have that much money and people don't know what to do with this money. It's crazy how people don't realize how expensive things scale up to be and how much you can spend, how quickly you can spend it. And so a lot of people in the lottery and then they're like, I can give someone 50 grand. And then a month later, they have zero. Yeah. Right. How did that happen?
Starting point is 01:30:39 The podcast version would be you. You're Haley Welch, Hawk Tua. And then you end up doing a crypto scam and then everything yeah what is okay i was talking about she's gone right like two days i think she was back to putting content up but it just it's it was never the same she she missed the mark on that she missed the boat on that she had terrible advice i mean she had an opportunity with that platform to really truly like grow something substantial and like she just got caught up in it because they had the paul brothers backing on
Starting point is 01:31:05 their on their podcast network see that's that's unfortunate to me when that kind of success can happen to someone who's not prepared for it it can spiral them out of control or they can actually turn it into something pretty incredible i mean it's not to say that that happened to uh jordan peterson but i mean after he exploded i mean he handled it pretty damn well but he had the psychological wherewithal to actually handle it and the team around him. Whereas people like her who just on the street become the people, it doesn't work. Well, I mean, a lot of the people that end up being really successful have strong work ethics that allow them to fall into a pattern of working hard, knowing how to capitalize on it. But if somebody just gets lucky and hits a hole in one and their video goes on the front of every YouTube channel, you would have had to have also had very good luck
Starting point is 01:31:47 to also be the type of person who could have that kind of windfall fall in your lap and then capitalize on it. But if you don't work to get there, it's a lot harder. Dude, success is preparation meets opportunity. Of course. Yeah. I don't know that Haley has anything of, of significant substance.
Starting point is 01:32:08 I was going to say of substance. I mean, that, that doesn't always matter, especially if you're in the female podcast space and you're talking about female issues, it's not necessarily about having something super interesting to say. It's about commiserating around the things that affect your life because
Starting point is 01:32:19 women like podcasts. Let me, I want to explain something too about these conspiracies. Easy with the blanket term. I think those podcasts make me want to jump on things. There is a functional infinite number of podcasts on YouTube right now. Right. YouTube or the CIA doesn't need to recruit someone and then say,
Starting point is 01:32:36 we want you to run our covert propaganda arm where you promote these ideas. What they do is they go into their database and say, here's a seemingly infinite number of podcasts. We're going to use an algorithm, an AI. We want somebody who is pro-Israel, pro-military, pro-intervention in Ukraine, calm, marketable. And that's going to be like, here's seven channels that do this. And they're going to say, put this on the front page of YouTube for everyone right now. Right.
Starting point is 01:33:02 And then three months later, some guy's got a million subs. He's like, wow, people love my channel. Yeah, I mean, YouTube hates me, so I can't. Oh, you had Chris on. Oh, good. That was a while ago. That was March. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:33:14 He's a friend of mine. We're from the same town. Yeah, he's cool. Yeah, he's a great guy. That was an episode from March. Oh, I love that, though. Yeah. That makes me happy.
Starting point is 01:33:20 It was right before we went to Australia and got arrested. And got arrested. And got arrested again for the umpteenth time. For nothing. My friends, we are going to go to your chats. So smash the like button, share the show with everyone you know. And my friends, head over to TimCast.com, assuming you're not in Canada. And click join us to become a member and get in the Discord server.
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Starting point is 01:35:05 what y'all have to say now i know why you guys told me not to give me a second shot of the photo because oh my god of what oh you think the pictures of people oh it's bad you think you look bad oh i don't care i know i was told it doesn't matter but the point is i just noticed it thank you for that all right we got change wilder always the first uh to super chat to rumble rant i keep saying Thank you than that. It was like March when they found this guy. And if those aren't familiar, an IT guy working for the Defense Intelligence Agency, the United States DOD, was trying to sell secrets to a foreign government in exchange for citizenship. And the FBI intercepted him where he explained that he had disdain for the Trump administration and was willing to sell these secrets for citizenship elsewhere. Evil people exist. Shimo says, stay at her mom's,
Starting point is 01:36:11 consider this a lifetime disability, and men get a job. Taxes pay for it only if you're married. What do you think, Phil? What? Yeah. I think that I need you to send another Rumble rant that clarifies what you're asking. Shimo says, separation anxiety can be considered
Starting point is 01:36:27 an issue that people can use in order to stay at home with their babies. Stay at her mom's consider this a lifetime disability. Is stay at her mom's a person? Is that like a... I have no idea what that means. I don't know. Okay. I don't think that
Starting point is 01:36:44 separation anxiety should be considered a lifetime disability. Yeah, because it's definitely not. This is a place to start, I guess. This is a really good Super Chats. NNY says, Tim, Brett is your employee and you have dominion over him. Command him to not only watch Star Trek, but to enjoy it as well. The look on his face is great. Dominion.
Starting point is 01:37:09 Never, not once, not a day in my life. You can't make me. I do want to say just real quick, guys. Can I pay you? Totally as an aside. I'd rather be unemployed. As an aside, guys, we have a new announcement for HR policy. Watching Star Trek The Next Generation is going to be a job requirement for all staff and contractors moving forward.
Starting point is 01:37:32 I mean, it's a good show, so that's easy ask. Patriot Paladin says Dodger Stadium was flooded after that drag queen performance mocked God and Christ at the Dodgers game. It did. It happened. I remember that. There we go again. That's just one of those moments. Crazy. Black Pringle says, so Tim, you must have missed the story of Sodom and Gomorrah.
Starting point is 01:37:54 Oh, no. Yeah, but then didn't the Dodgers win the World Series like the year after that, though? What did Seamus say? If God doesn't smite the United States, he owes Sodom and Gomorrah an apology? Yes. I don't know if he feels good about saying that. I was like, dude, Seamus, geez.
Starting point is 01:38:13 Yeah, I think he was saying it's someone else. It's someone else's quote. I'm not sure. Yeah, I mean, look, there's some validity to that. Granted, like, I think Sodom and Gomorrah, everybody was kind of rapey. They wanted those angels, bro. You know? So this one's bait, obviously.
Starting point is 01:38:32 Rapey. What is this? Phil Loco Raptor. Phil Loco Raptor. I understand what he was trying to do, but it doesn't say that. It says Phil Loco Raptor. He says, Tim doesn't understand middle class struggles because he has never been middle class. The excuse of leftists as to, people need to understand this about leftists.
Starting point is 01:38:56 When I went to Occupy Wall Street and I was sleeping outside and had very little money and was largely broke, these Occupy activists would go, see, man, you're the perfect example of what's wrong with this country. Like a young guy, you're smart, you're dedicated and passionate. Where's your success? Where's your American dream, man? And then Time Magazine features me in person of the year
Starting point is 01:39:17 and I get promoted on the front page, get tens of thousands of followers and a bunch of magazine requests. And the same people go, Tim Pool is just a white kid who was born rich with a silver spoon in his mouth. There it is. How old were you when they made that comment about where is your success?
Starting point is 01:39:31 Cracker. 25. And so at Occupy Wall Street in October, I'm walking around, sleeping in the park, and this is exactly what they were saying. They were like, see, people like you, man, drop out of high school. There's no American dream. The wealthy are funneling all the cash away while paying the lobbyists.
Starting point is 01:39:51 You're the perfect example of everything until I became successful. And then I was silver spoon privileged. And this is what they do. Like these people live in this world where they can't succeed because in their mind, the only reason I'm successful is because I was born rich, which I was born poor. My family lost their house in a bankruptcy and I was homeless several periods, several points in my life. They assume almost everybody who has any money inherited it from their parents. Right. And they're not willing
Starting point is 01:40:18 to hear the story before that either. No, you're successful now. You're the guy now. So it's obvious. And then you get people who go, yeah, well, you're the exception. You're lucky. And I'm like, so weird that everybody who succeeded did similar things. This is why there are people who pay for seminars from PBD. Because they don't believe. They don't believe those lies of you can't succeed. They see a male success.
Starting point is 01:40:44 And they say, I need to go to those events and hear what he has to say. Now, not every ticket for Patrick by David's show is 20 grand. Those are like VIP elite packages where you can get in a private room with him and like Tom Brady or something. But people want to go and learn. And while certainly some people might have criticisms of PBD in those seminars that he does. I don't care about that. My point is individuals who are willing to spend and invest and try and figure it out at the very least, how to be better people and be successful are on the right path. Yeah. I have infinitely more respect for a person who's going out and seeking a way to better their life than somebody who just assumes that they've been destined to whatever hell they find themselves
Starting point is 01:41:21 in now and say that everything is rigged against them. The idea of like radical personal responsibility where you take extreme ownership of your actions is something that I think actually separates a lot of the people on the left and the right. Do you have to pay Jocko every time you say that? No. I just want to make sure. I know Jocko Malk is the best protein powder ever made. We've got like 12 bags of Jocko protein powder downstairs. Have you tried it?
Starting point is 01:41:47 I prefer something a lot cleaner, like Noble, which is like made in Texas and like nose to tail and doesn't have any fillers. Like I'm really. Like Jocko? No comment. You're not a fan of. He's got. I don't like it. There's no Splenda in it.
Starting point is 01:42:03 There's no. No, no, no, no. I've tried it. I'm not a big fan of it. It doesn't work with my stomach. That's why I use it. Oh, man's I don't like it I don't there's no Splenda in it there's no no no I've tried it I'm not a big fan of it doesn't work with my stomach that's why I use it oh man I can't stand it's the only that's the only I swear by it never met the guy I don't know the guy he's never sponsored us or anything I was looking for non-Splenda proteins and they all have Splenda it's disgusting and then I looked it up and Jocko's came up and I looked at the ingredients and I said okay I'll try this and it's amazing I mean it up and Jocko's came up and I looked at the ingredients. Yep. And I said, okay, I'll try this.
Starting point is 01:42:25 And it's amazing. I mean, it tastes good. I just thought it doesn't work with me. I had to find one that like worked with me. Like I have a TBI. So everything that goes in my gut needs to at least be somewhat dialed in. I do have to take a step back. I know that we were doing the chats, but the chat reminded me we did not talk about Sasquatch.
Starting point is 01:42:41 And that's an important video. Here we go, ladies and gentlemen. This is it. We have a video definitively proving that anybody will believe fake videos on the internet. Okay, this is a video that purportedly shows Sasquatch. Is there sound on this? There's no sound. Look at that. You see him?
Starting point is 01:42:59 That's really funny. It's a human. Listen, it's a human. Well, that's someone's being skeptical, right? There he is. Sasquatch. You guys see that? Oh, yeah. Look at him. I love the...
Starting point is 01:43:09 That's really funny. Can I make it... Can I zoom in on this video? Oh. Oh, there we go. Why won't it play? There he is. Sasquatch.
Starting point is 01:43:17 That's really funny. Maybe Bro's just here. Maybe Bro's just here. Maybe Bro's just here. Maybe Bro's just here. Maybe Bro's just here. Maybe Bro's just here. Maybe Bro's just here. Maybe Bro's just here. Maybe Bro's just here. Maybe Bro's just here. Maybe Bro's just here. why would it play there he is Sasquatch
Starting point is 01:43:25 maybe bro's just hairy maybe he's just wearing a fur jacket I love the deeply profound comment that says man in a costume you can tell because of the way it is I mean I'm not even convinced a guy in a costume, you can tell because of the way it is. I mean, I'm not even convinced a guy in a costume. It might just be a guy wearing furs. Yeah. Yeah. And then
Starting point is 01:43:52 someone filmed it from far away and they're like, Sasquatch! It's in the woods. It's gotta be him. But, you know what? Because we don't know, I'm gonna just choose to believe it's Sasquatch. Yep. And that proves it. He's been found. No, it's what Mitch Hedberg said. I just think Bigfoot is blurry.
Starting point is 01:44:08 What did he say? A blurry monster? He's a large, out-of-focus monster roaming the countryside. Existently out-of-focus. Do you guys know about the... Do you know that West Virginia has more cryptids than any other state in the country? You just had Tony Merkel on for Culture War last week, right?
Starting point is 01:44:25 He's from the Confessionals. I'm not even sure what a cryptid is. Cryptid? Yeah. Bigfoot. Oh, okay. Chupacabra. Snallygaster. Okay. What else do we have? Snallygaster. That one I just heard about recently. Yeah, don't you know? Yeah. Do you guys know about Spring-Heeled Jack? What?
Starting point is 01:44:41 Bro. Ah! Well, it was like some dude who could jump off buildings and jump 20 feet in the air or whatever. Was it New Jersey or something? In the UK? Spring-heeled Jack. See, they're rebooting the X-Files, and if they want to do something, that's the type of stuff they should be covering.
Starting point is 01:44:57 I'm pretty sure they did. Check this out. Spring-heeled Jack. It's an English folklore. 1837. There were sightings reported all over the UK. Basically, this dude... This is Batman. Like, spring-heeled. He was described by people who have seen him
Starting point is 01:45:13 as having terrifying and frightening appearance with diabolical physiognomy, clawed hands and eyes that resembled red balls of fire. Batman. And, like, I guess, what was it? He could jump super high or something. Yeah, he'd make extraordinary leaps to the point he'd begin the topic of several works of fire. Bad man. And like, I guess, what was it? He could jump super high or something. Yeah, he'd make extraordinary leaps to the point he'd begin the topic of several works
Starting point is 01:45:28 of fiction. That's Superman, though. That's parkour. He looks like that. You know what's funny is it really could have just been a guy doing parkour. That's what I mean. It's like early parkour before it was a thing. We're in West Virginia, and this is Cryptid HQ.
Starting point is 01:45:43 Let me pull up a list of... Check this out. Wow, Google's got it right here. Look at this. Mothman. What? Yeah, do you know about Mothman? No, it's creepy, though. You ever seen the Mothman Chronicles? That was the movie? It's a movie, yeah. And wasn't it based on a true story or something? Yes, sir. Okay, give me more. More, please. Tell me more. So, who is it?
Starting point is 01:45:59 Gene Hackman? No, not Gene Hackman. What's his face? What's the actor's name? I can't remember. Someone look up his name. He's his face? What's the actor's name? I can't remember. Someone look up his name. He's in his hotel room and he's investigating. Wasn't it the Mothman Prophecy? Yes.
Starting point is 01:46:12 There you go. He's in his hotel room and he gets a phone call. Okay. And then it tells him to open the Bible and choose any page, any passage. And then it starts reading to him the passage that he chose and he freaks out. And then basically it was warning him. Who was it? The actor?
Starting point is 01:46:28 Did you look it up? It's Richard Gere. Richard Gere. Okay. I knew there was like a G-E something. He's trying to warn people a bridge is going to collapse because he's been warned by this entity, the Mothman. They think the Mothman is just an owl. And what was happening is that it's pitch black outside and
Starting point is 01:46:45 there's an owl sitting right on like a post right next to the road. And when people would drive past it slowly, they'd look to their right and their brains would be confused. Their brain would process the silhouette as being far away and very large instead of up close and very small. So they were looking at an owl with glowing eyes, not a massive Muffman. Ah, this makes more sense. Ah, okay. That's terrifying.
Starting point is 01:47:13 Yep. Or maybe there's a Muffman. Maybe. A Grafton monster. Dude, Sheep Squatch. Sheep Squatch. Yeah, no joke. Sheep Squatch, dude.
Starting point is 01:47:24 Is this around here? So they, yes. So in Fallout 76, the video game, all of these monsters are in it because it takes place in West Virginia. Yeah. So all of the monsters live in West Virginia. I mean.
Starting point is 01:47:36 So West Virginia has more cryptid sightings than any other place in the country. Why do you think that is? Meth. I love how you had that ready. Sheepsquatch, known as the white thing. Look at this. That sounds racist. You can't even see it.
Starting point is 01:47:51 It's a stupid picture. In 94, a former Navy seaman said he had witnessed the beast breaking through the forest. The white thing breached the brush line and knelt to drink from the creek. Here it drank for a few minutes before crossing the creek and continuing towards the nearby road. The witness stated that he observed the animal for a while before it moved under the surrounding brush. Many sightings of sheep squatch.
Starting point is 01:48:11 Okay. You know, everyone's always talking about Sasquatch, but, you know, ain't nobody talking about sheep squatch. Right? You know, I think, you know, Snallygaster. Look at the veggie man. Oh, my God. Sarah actually just brought up the Snallygaster the other day, and I was like, what is this? I've never heard of it.
Starting point is 01:48:25 What is the vegetable man of West Virginia? Look at this. He's like, a carrot? Looks like Mr. Burns from that episode where he was an alien. The vegetable man of West Virginia is a little known hoax. Ah, okay. So that's fakes. Fake. Fakes. In the 50s, a hoaxer
Starting point is 01:48:42 made... Oh, you know what? This is probably what the Simpsons based it off of to be honest a UFO in the woods with a vegetable man I was just told to stay out of the mountains I think bad boy's real right bad boy? yeah as another cryptid not real I'm saying it was like an actual cryptid
Starting point is 01:48:58 people thought it was real and it was like and then the Snallygaster look at this but hold on cause because you said meth. Well, when you've been up for four days at a time. No, I know, but when were these like a thing? Because these are looking like 1800s. Like, when was meth a thing?
Starting point is 01:49:15 Did you get what I'm saying? They used to put cocaine in Coca-Cola. It's tough to keep you up all the time. But I'm saying like 1800s, these all came out around the same time. Yeah, but they're also trying to keep kids out of the forest. Oh yeah, fair enough. That's the whole story, these all came out around the same time. Yeah, but they're also trying to keep kids out of the forest. Oh, yeah, fair enough. That's the whole story, yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:27 The flat was just a monster. What is it? On September 12, 1952, after a bright light crossed the sky, investigators now suggest the light was a meteor and the creature was a barn owl. And this is what people described it as. Two brothers, Edward and Fred May, and their friend Tommy Heyer, said they saw a bright object across the sky the boys went home went to the home of kathleen may but they told the story then uh blah
Starting point is 01:49:51 blah blah boring boring boring they reached the top of a hill where they said they saw a red pulsing light lemon said he aimed the flashlight in the direction and momentarily saw a tall man-like figure with a round red face surrounded by a pointed ball pointed hood-like shape. Descriptions varied. Blah, blah, blah. But there you go. I don't know. The Flatwoods Monster. You guys have a lot of monsters out here. I've been to a lot of places, but it's so dark out here in the woods at night.
Starting point is 01:50:15 I feel like you can just see some weird stuff. They were driving me out here. I said, where are you going? Oh, the Snarly Yow. Where am I going? The Snarly Yow. Bro, we got too many. Look at that. Oh, my God. Bro, it's like somebody saw a coyote with mange and was like, it's a monster.
Starting point is 01:50:33 Does any other state have this many creatures? No. It's just here, hey? Yes. Okay. You should go outside. You know what I think? No, I'm solid.
Starting point is 01:50:41 I'll stay inside. Let me tell you guys. Let me tell you what I think it is. West Virginia has historically been sparsely populated because of the mountains. It's hard to move wagons through West Virginia. So even though it's on the east coast, it's one of the least populated states.
Starting point is 01:50:56 What ends up happening is, you have a dude who lives in the middle of the woods, several miles away from the next person. He goes outside, it's dark, and he sees, I don't know, a bear. Right. And he can't tell what it is, and it makes a weird noise, and maybe it's a bear with mange or something. Okay. He then goes to his neighbor's house like a week later and is like, I tell you, this thing must have been a gigantic monster, eyes glowing, no hair on its body. I couldn't tell what it was. And the guy
Starting point is 01:51:19 goes, wow. Then he goes to the bar and says, there was some kind of six, seven foot tall monster, massive with no hair. And then a legend starts. And that's how it all started. When you live in New York, however, if a deer runs through the city, 700 people go, we just saw a deer. Instantly, everybody's like, oh, everybody said it was a deer. So when you hear stories about like, actually, here's a good example. You know the story of the Cyclops, where it comes from? No.
Starting point is 01:51:43 They found elephant skulls. Oh, no way. You ever see an elephant the Cyclops, where it comes from? No. They found elephant skulls. Oh, no way. You ever see an elephant skull? Yes. That would make sense. Yeah. And so they started telling stories of a gigantic monster with one eye because it, you can't really tell because this image is too small, but it works anyway.
Starting point is 01:51:58 So somebody sees this skull with a big hole and they think that's the eye socket and there's the nose when in fact that's actually the nose. Right. And then they tell everybody we found a giant skull. And that's how it works. And then a bunch of guys are like, oh, we saw it. Things like that. So I imagine if you go way back in the day, like 2,000 years ago, some dude is like walking through the forest when he encounters like a wolf with mange.
Starting point is 01:52:22 Right. And he fights it off. Then he goes into town and he starts describing, exaggerating. Right. This great exaggeration. So West Virginia with very few people,
Starting point is 01:52:32 sheep squash. Sheep squash comes out. Right. It's a ram. Right. A very large ram a guy sees breaking its way
Starting point is 01:52:40 through the trees and the guy's tired and groggy and he sees it and he's like, whoa. And he tells him, it was a sheep, but it was huge, like some kind of monster, and then you get sheep's watch.
Starting point is 01:52:49 I mean, it's pretty amazing. You guys have a lot here, a lot to be proud of. Indeed. Indeed. Yep, West Virginia's famous for it. All right, all right, let's get back to it and grab some more of those super chats. What have we here? Smacky the Frog says,
Starting point is 01:53:04 I am sure Derek Chauvin appreciated God's show of solidarity while he was sitting in a cell. Why smite Biden after he ran the country into a ditch?
Starting point is 01:53:12 The prime time for an act of God was before he victimized his family. You could also just say, like, why punish them after they die
Starting point is 01:53:19 if they're doing bad things? Because I don't think that's the system. I don't know. You know? Like, the punishment is I don't know. You know? Like the punishment is for what? After you do? All right.
Starting point is 01:53:31 What is this? We got a big one. Big super chat. Wow, this is a big one. Working. Why is it? It's not. There we go.
Starting point is 01:53:37 Working single-handed says, my son should be at his high school graduation tonight. Instead, I'm at his ICU bedside after a horrific multi-fatality crash last Saturday. By God's mercy alone, he survived. It's a miracle. Instead, I'm at his ICU bedside after a horrific multi-fatality crash last Saturday. By God's mercy alone, he survived. It's a miracle. We've seen his hand all week. All glory to him. Please pray and share.
Starting point is 01:53:52 Give, send, go. Tristan, what is it? Tristan, Tristan A Recovery. Is that what it says? Yeah. If you're, well, I, his name is Jonathan Ruzich. He actually tweeted the same thing at me. Oh, okay. So if you, if you're the praying type, pray for Jonathan Ruzich. He actually tweeted the same thing at me. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:54:09 So if you're the praying type, pray for Jonathan Ruzich, kid. Yeah, I think when I was younger, I bravely wasn't believing in God because I hadn't experienced anything to make me believe in God. And then I've experienced things and witnessed things where I'm like, yeah, there's a God. And I think two things. One, atheists haven't had those experiences. And that's the easiest way to explain it, I guess. And I wonder if the issue on top of that is they haven't researched enough into it.
Starting point is 01:54:39 Well, again, I also think, too, it comes down to when people are told something for so long and then they are asked or invited to question or experience something, they're unwilling to go and actually go through the experience because there's a chance it will completely change their entire fabric of reality. And that's what happens. Well, that's that or psychedelics. I mean, it just depends yeah you know i i don't feel that um bill maher was listening to me when i was trying to explain the observable reality creating a probabilistic outcome of god was it the weed well he was stoned out of his mind for sure could it have been the weed where he was not just checked i do think he was largely listening to what i was saying in the conversation right but this was right towards the end and instead of asking anything about what i explained he said, I love how cute it is that people come up with these ways to believe
Starting point is 01:55:28 what they want or whatever. And I was like, Oh, dismissive, cute. Thanks. Right. Cause I was literally talking about the entropy and negative entropy and the structure of reality and the, you know, why certain particles fuse together and create, why, why is there a system of organization for particles to become, you know, atoms, to become elements, to become compounds, to become cells, to become multicellular, to become life? Why does this, you know, why is there a weaker opposite to entropy? And he just didn't really engage in the conversation. Can I ask you something?
Starting point is 01:56:00 Yes. Do you think that, I'm trying to be, it's your show. Do you think that, I'm sorry. Do you think that there's these moments where you're having these conversations with individuals like, for example, Bill Maher, where regardless of the cannabis or whatever else he's drinking or whatever else is going on, where they're just not intellectually strong enough to carry on that conversation so then they do a dismissive comment like that and just kind of blow the okay i just want to make sure i think it's it's i i read about this a long time ago there's a phenomenon in psychology where uh you know what don't worry about what i read brandon struck explained how he felt physical pain when he actually had his worldview disproven to him of course he had firmly believed that trump was bad. He had seen the videos. And then when someone actually showed him proof that he was wrong, he felt a physical pain in his whole body. And I read about this a long time ago. And the reason why humans have – so let's put it this way.
Starting point is 01:56:55 There's a study of social engineering. It is a hacker discipline about manipulating people to make them do the things you want them to do. It is principally how hackers gain control of systems. They don't code computers. They trick people. It's easier. And so in this study, there are people have compiled information
Starting point is 01:57:12 from psychology such as, when you want to approach someone who you know to be adversarial or in opposition to you, you must always approach them from rapport, meaning lie and agree with them. This breaks the first barrier where they say we are of the same tribe i can now trust you right otherwise if you approach them as an enemy they'll disregard whatever you say it also talks about how uh i should say the
Starting point is 01:57:35 readings that i did talked about how the the evolutionary purpose for a visceral physical reaction to information that disproves what you think you know, is because humans evolved based on the things they trusted to be true. And the humans that survived to their late 20s must have figured something out that was correct. Don't eat that mushroom, it will kill you. Don't eat that plant, it's poisonous. Or here's a better example. There's a tribe of people, and they find a patch of various red fruits.
Starting point is 01:58:05 And one person tries it and dies, and they all panic and run. They discover that every time someone tries to eat one of these different red fruits, they die. So they develop a practice of never eat the red fruit until one day someone finds a tomato. And they all say, you're crazy, you're wrong, and they try smacking it out of his hand. They get angry. But tomatoes aren't poisonous. It was the other fruits. But because they evolved to survive based off that presumption, the reason why they get angry, it's to protect the human, it's to protect
Starting point is 01:58:36 them from doing things that could cause them to die. And so they say that your mind closes up in your mid-20s, and there's a period in your late 40s where it starts to reopen. This triggers, in men, midlife crises. The reason being, we also evolved to survive by reassessing what we think to be true at a certain point in our lives. But this means that human beings throughout history who were willing to believe anything were less likely to survive.
Starting point is 01:59:00 And human beings that learned and then at adulthood solidified those beliefs and rejected anything that would challenge them were more likely to survive because what they learned led them to survive. Thus, people have psychotic breaks and mental breakdowns, anger and and rage. If you present them information that can counter their worldview. Well, I've seen that I've watched the show recently, just more and more now that he seems like he's doing it more consistently. And depending on who he has on, I mean, he had Charlie Kirk on
Starting point is 01:59:29 and I watched that interview and I watched that back and forth. And it seemed like there was just this very dismissive, divisive conversation where he was unwilling to not even just,
Starting point is 01:59:37 not even just argue points, but even just hear points. Like, how dare you even say those things in my space? Like, how dare you even have that or attempt to have that conversation? Because it does feel like with Bill, if there's any point where you maybe, I don't say have one up on him or you're able to make a pretty solid point
Starting point is 01:59:56 with evidence, he's still, he's very dismissive. And I noticed that with, with you. And that's why I wondered if like how you feel about that, when that happens to you, because you're giving 70, I get it. I don't care though. That's an excuse. wondered if like how you feel about that when that happens to you because you're giving.
Starting point is 02:00:05 I get it. I don't care though. That's an excuse. I mean you're still a human being hosting a show. Your job is to host a show and have a give and take. And if you're going to be dismissive and a blank to people, then that kind of just makes me not want to pay attention to you at all because you're just not giving anybody the time of day to be, I don't know, a decent human being. That's my perspective. Now, that doesn't have to be anybody else's.
Starting point is 02:00:23 But that's what I notice. And when people are dismissive like that, I have a hard time wanting to listen to them or even respect anything they have to say because they're unwilling to think outside the box or even just imagine for a moment outside of their delusion that other people could be feeling or thinking something different. Also, you know what he said to me is that he's an atheist because we don't know, we can't know,
Starting point is 02:00:43 and we probably never will. That's just such... And I'm like, but that's just such and i'm like but that's just plum not true but that's what that's my point and that when you that's presumptive the idea that we can't know is presumptive right you are making a declarative fact-based statement whereas i could simply say now hold on we might i don't know what what might science discover maybe you know when we discovered the the electromagnetic spectrum nobody thought that was a thing. And then we were like, there's actually a big frequency range.
Starting point is 02:01:09 What if eventually someone's like, we've discovered the God spectrum. And then they're like, there's actually a way to tap into and communicate directly with God. And then one day someone's like, we bought this weird machine. Watch this. You press it. And then God appears and he's like, hey, what's up? He doesn't know that's not going to happen. I mean, we have no idea what we've discovered. But the certainty in people and individuals like god appears and he's like hey what's up right he doesn't know that's not going to happen i mean we have no idea what we've been but the certain but the certainty in people and
Starting point is 02:01:28 individuals like that it was like the uh somebody joe just had this guy on from uh he was an egyptologist i believe i don't i can't for the life of me i can't think of his name but yeah he had him on and just to listen but just you don't believe in aliens and he's like oh joe i'm a scientist just the level of ignorance to to think or even with somebody like neil degrasse tyson where he's having these conversations it's like just the level of ignorance to to think or even with somebody like Neil deGrasse Tyson where he's having these conversations it's like just the level of ignorance for such an intelligent individual to not even be willing to open the mind enough to go you know what that that could have a like I can't for say for certain that's the thing that gets me about these people is it's like if you want to come on shows and have conversations and you want to be quite
Starting point is 02:02:01 hard-lined I get it but if you're a host of a show like Bill Maher and then you have an individual like yourself who's very clearly very intellectual in comparison to him when he's too stoned to handle his life, it's just very, to me, it puts me off. I don't want to listen to you now. You're just kind of irritating.
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