Timcast IRL - FBI SEIZES Fauci's Devices, Kash Patel Tells Rogan WE'RE ONTO HIM In COVID Probe w/ Roseanne Barr & Mel K

Episode Date: June 7, 2025

Tim, Phil, & Brett are joined by Roseanne Barr & Mel K to discuss Kash Patel saying the FBI has seized the devices of Anthony Fauci, Roger Stone suggesting the FBI destroyed evidence of Epstein's crimes, FBI Director Kash Patel being swatted, and Abrego Garcia being charged with human trafficking.   Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) Brett  @PopCultureCrisis  (YouTube) Tate @realTateBrown (X) Guests: Roseanne Barr @therealroseanne (X) | https://www.roseannebarr.com/ Mel K @MelKShow (X)

Kash Patel was on Joe Rogan today, and he made a massive announcement that they have seized the phone and hard drives of Dr. Anthony Fauci. He says we are on to him as the FBI is investigating the origin of COVID. And as he stated, whether or not Fauci was lying to the American people, we deserve to know. So I'm hoping once again that Steve Bannon is correct and we'll see some arrests of these criminals by midsummer. But that is yet to be seen. In the meantime, however, everyone's favorite MS-13 gang member has returned. That's right. Kilmar Abrego Garcia is back in the United States.

Trump brought him back to face human trafficking charges where he's currently in jail pending his trial for trafficking thousands of people. So I guess, you know, that's what the Democrats wanted. I kind of feel like the only reason that Trump admin did this is that it's it's political. This is going to allow him to say, hey, remember that guy we're defending? We brought him back. Yeah. Now he's being charged with trafficking thousands of people. So we're going to talk about all of that, my friends. Before we get started, we got a great sponsor for you. It is Tax Network USA. Check out TNUSA.com and slash Tim, by the way. Tax Day may have passed, but for millions of Americans, the real trouble is just beginning. If you miss the April 15th deadline or still owe back taxes, the IRS is ramping up enforcement. Everyday wait only makes things worse. With over

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Yeah. There we go. Here's the story, ladies and gentlemen. The Daily Mail's got it. Kash Patel, FBI director, announces COVID breakthrough after seizing Anthony Fauci's phones and hard drives. This is actually pretty crazy. The Trump

administration has recovered a cell phone and hard drives used by Fauci during the COVID pandemic. Speaking Thursday on the Joe Rogan Experience, FBI director Kash Patel described the discovery as a great breakthrough in the government's ongoing investigation into the origins of the pandemic and the federal response. Patel said investigators had long struggled to locate the devices Fauci used while serving as chief medical advisor to the White House. Records that could shed light on key decisions surrounding lockdowns, mask mandates and ties between Fauci's former agency and the Wuhan laboratory central to the lab leak theory. He did say, for all we know, he's deleted everything. We don't know. He says,

we found it. And at least we can tell the American people we've been looking because it is of public importance to figure out, did that guy lie? Did he intentionally mislead the world and cause countless deaths? We owe those answers to the American people. And the best evidence ever is always the people's evidence who created it. So now we're going to go and exploit those hard drives. He says, we did find it. We are not done. We're still looking and we're on the case. That being said, Fauci's got a universal pardon. He was pardoned for a period of 11 years, I think. So if they actually want to go after Fauci beyond this, if they actually want to charge or imprison him, Trump's going to Trump already did declare the pardons void. But the DOJ is going to have to file a suit. It's going to go to Supreme Court.

Then what? Yeah, it's where the auto pen question is actually really important, you know, because if I assume the administration's argument is going to be, well, it was the auto pen. He did all these these pardons aren't actually real. It wasn't even him doing it. He couldn't know, et cetera. So that will be like the whole thing will hinge on whether or not that actually is found to be legal by SCOTUS. I think the question that's always stood out to me is most important is if they're our biggest adversary, China, and for whatever reason, Dr. Fauci, USAID, and everyone was creating bioweapons in a lab in China with our biggest adversary and it leaked. These seem to be bigger crimes than just the pardon and all of that. I don't understand why that's not treason or they're not our biggest adversary. So why are they working on bioweapons in China, in this lab that had a lot of problems already?

So to me, the questions about Fauci are less about, you know, did he lie about the lab leak and more about why was America working with the Chinese Communist Party to create bioweapons to begin with? That should matter to the Americans more than anything else. While it was banned. Yeah. mattered to Americans more than anything else. While it was banned. Isn't it always that they say we create the new bioweapons so that we can create cures for them? That's the argument. Every time you've heard that, you're like,

that doesn't make any sense. We make nuclear weapons so that we can create the repairs for the devastation that nuclear weapons cause. I don't know if you can get a pardon for treason. I don't think you you can get a pardon for treason. Yeah. I mean, I don't think you can, especially not by auto pen from a guy that's got dementia. Well, also, there's a lot about Fauci from before 11 years ago, just like there is about Hunter,

just like this. The strange thing is that they're the pardons are just in this period of time, not necessarily when he was involved in AIDS or when he was involved in, you know, the testing with the kids. So, I mean, at the bigger picture is treason or crimes against humanity. One of the things that Cash Vettel was talking about with Joe today was the statute of limitations.

Right. A lot of the stuff that is, you know, they're finding now is outside of the statute of limitations, which means on top of the pardons, you know, the government doesn't even have the authority to prosecute anymore. Isn't that convenient? Isn't it? Isn't it all just one big scam?

The whole thing is. Wait, I got an idea. What if they upgrade the charge in some way that extends the statute of limitations? Like if he committed misdemeanors, let's just say they're felonies so we can criminally charge him. 25? Like they did in New York to Trump? Yeah, right. Good idea.

Yeah, but crimes against humanity, treason, sedition, I don't know about RICO, conspiracy. There's got to be ways. That's how the law is written now so that it can be manipulated to get anyone. I mean, there's like, what,

4,500 felonies on record that you can pick from to create a case? Oh, I mean, yeah. We're in the era of show me the man, I'll show you the crime. Exactly. So it doesn't make that much sense. No, it's just so irretrievably broken. I don't know.

Yeah, we were mentioning this a little bit when the show was starting. I think everything's broken. You know, Milo, are you guys familiar with Milo Yiannopoulos? Sure. He's been on a heater this week. He said that the views on the economy and government spending are no different than horoscopes at this point. And he has no problem with people talking about it, but he doesn't concern himself with such things. He's right.

Everybody's saying like, oh, Trump's bill is going to do this, that, the deficit will do that. Nobody knows what that actually means or how it's going to manifest. It's also a lot of it's a lot of just faith in him more than actual faith in believing that the process is going to work, because we've seen this happen for administration after administration. And even before Trump got back in the office, I was like, look, the system is broken in a way that took like over 200 years to break. There's no way you can fix it in one term. And I don't honestly believe within the scope of the government now that there is a way to fix it in any real way that would change things for the American people on the ground. Agreed.

I mean, honestly, I really think at this point I've been doing a lot of work following the money. And I believe that everything basically that we've been told after World War Two has been a total lie and a con job. I think everything with our we've paid trillions of dollars of our taxpayer money overseas to have wars that end up the money is made in the wards in the reconstruction. If you look back to what happened right after World War Two, all these things were put in the IMF, the World Bank, the fraud that is the German Marshall Fund. The American people have been so looted and so lied to and so deceived and have allowed it to go on with no one ever being held accountable. I really believe at this

time left-right Republican Democrat is a total farce. And the only way that this country saves itself is to have the people save themselves locally, like things that you've done in West Virginia. People aren't that concerned. But frankly, I really believe that this is a global war and America just needs to be destroyed to go forward, because I don't think we even are very clear on who the enemy is, who's running this show. And frankly, at this point, you have to follow the money all the way to the top.

Those USAID, all of that stuff they found, they should have called in Samantha Power day one as soon as they started seeing that and asking, you know, what was this money sent here for? Especially places there was color revolutions and all this. I just think the American people have been so lied to as a whole. And our birthright, our country has been stolen out from under us. And unless the people actually start to realize that we're all on the same side and we can only save ourselves, it's just going to continue to

be a uniparty. There's the question of what does that mean by the people when half the country is voting against what you describe? Yeah, I mean, to me, the people have to be, honestly, for me, I think from the Federal Reserve forward, this hasn't been America. I'm not even totally sure that we won the revolution. I really think that they went back to England and they infiltrated us through the banks and the railroads, and it continued, and then after World War II...

The courts. Right. Well, the conspiracy theory is that we never actually won the revolution. Right. And again, for the sake of the people who are going to pull this quite out of context, I'm going to say it again.

There are people who believe after the revolution, the king simply said, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. They're trying to do what? Well, they want to have a system where anyone can just be in charge. And they're like, then why are we, why are we sending troops to go there? Just say they won, we surrender. Okay, now they have their system in place. Let's send all of our money and just buy their, buy their government. Yeah. And build all the railroads. And then there was all these land leases connected to the

railroads. I mean, there's plenty of levels of this, but certainly people need to start looking at the international banking system. I really believe that the top of the head of the snake of all these wars and all the looting and COVID. Don't forget, Klaus Schwab books out COVID, the great reset, like within weeks of our lockdowns. And then they have this whole build back better from everywhere in the world. I just think that the international financial system that was built after World War II to loot our country is broken. And they need another, I believe, another world war to recalibrate financially, just like after World War I.

You're saying they want a world war. Yes. Recalibrate. This is, it's called the liberal economic order. Are you familiar with that? Yes, absolutely. Yeah, or some people call it the Fourth Reich, whatever the case may be. They literally call themselves the Liberal Economic Order.

It's in the CFR website. I'm going to pull this up. And they're one of the chief architects of this. The other thing I see with this, kind of like you're mentioning with the people involved and the fact that there's a lot of apathy around the citizens, is that for the most part, it feels like with cash going towards these type of prosecutions or looking into Fauci that a lot of people have just been willing to forget. Like they're just kind of the COVID happened. It's done with.

They've forgotten all of the things that happened, all of the awful ways in which people behaved. And when I see this, these discussions online, I do see a lot of anger. But that's because we're in a space where it's people in politics who are talking about it, who remember names, dates, things that were said. But for the most part, the average everyday citizen, they've moved on with their lives and they aren't ready to acknowledge the amount of evil that was done in that time period. So them even going forward with this now is actually kind of impressive because it doesn't feel like there isn't even really a mandate to do it because nobody's really talking about it. I want to highlight this. We have this website from the Council on Foreign Relations. What is the liberal world order? I'll play only a little bit of their opening video. But the gist of it is after World War Two, a group of powerful individuals got together and said, we are going to create a global system of governance through

finance because war is bad or whatever the excuse is war. They were like, we are going to create a global system of governance through finance. Right. Because war is bad or whatever the excuse is war. They were like, we don't we don't want wars to start. So we'll control it. Natural disasters to deadly diseases to wars. The world can be a turbulent, even chaotic place. But around 75 years ago, a new system was imagined to temper this turbulence and improve the lives of many.

It is called the Liberal World Order. It is a liberal system in the sense that it operates on rules that are, in theory, applied to each country equally, and that it encourages each country to be democratic and to open its economy to the rest of the world. It is a global system in that every country around the world is encouraged to join and follow those rules, even if some do not. And it is a system that promotes order in that most countries that buy into it respect the borders of other countries. And what happens if you disagree with this liberal economic order? We go in and we stage a coup against your leader or your political system. We remove those in power or the United States will outright assassinate a world leader who defies the liberal economic order. pot conspiracy website it's quite literally the cfr telling you outright 75 years ago they created the liberal world order because when george hw bush said there was a liberal world order but

now we can imagine a new world order for 30 years they said it was a conspiracy theory to believe powerful interested want powerful interests wanted a new world order yeah well frankly it happened before the end of world war II, because in 1944, Hitler and his entire crew, what they called at the time internationalists that we now call globalists and the international bankers all got together and started funneling money through Switzerland into Argentina, into America, setting up a lot of stuff. We also had at the same exact time shortly after Operation Paperclip, then we had people from our military going and getting people that were sentenced to death

in Nuremberg and bringing them to the Jet Propulsion Lab in America. So a lot of things were happening right after. And frankly, I look right now and it's hard to know this, some of this history, especially when it comes to Alan Dulles, who was from OSS, was in Switzerland all this time. The guy that was taking the money from the Nazi bank in Switzerland at the Bank of International Settlements happened to be an American banker, Kittredge, and they were planning for the Fourth Reich to be a financial Reich, which goes along with that. So if you look at all of this right now, the Bank of International Settlements is opaque. Nobody knows what's there. It wasn't just all the money that they looted and stole and everything from

Germany, but it was also the money they were making. Remember, they were working the people in the camps to death, creating steel and armaments and all this stuff. But it was also, they were looting all the people in Lithuania, in Czechoslovakia, in Paris, and all that money was going into, apparently, Switzerland. And if that was happening, this Bank of International Settlements has all the same immunity as the Vatican. Nobody's ever looked into it. Nobody can tell you how much money's there. And yet our Federal Reserve and all 12 of our governors from the Federal Reserve go to the Bank of International Settlements in Switzerland every couple months for global financial order. Okay. And then you find the IMF, the World Bank, World Trade Organization, who do they work for? And then when we're seeing all these doge money going out all over the world,

it's going to the World Bank. So what I believe at this point is Alan Dulles and the CIA, I believe, have been basically running a situation that is connected to those banks rather than the CIA being what we think they are. It's more what you were saying, which is making sure that the whole world is working along these lines. Because if you look at the history of Dulles and then him coming to America from Switzerland and everything then, it's very hard to separate that that period of time, post-World War II, probably from 44 to 53, this whole international financial system, including the biggest laundering operation, which I believe to be the UN, all came to be. It did not exist before this. And I think that their financial system was breaking. And the Great Reset really, and whether the pandemic was part of it or not, was because

they need to reset the financial system to keep it controlled. And I mean, that's just my theory right now. And it's all heavily invested in arms and munitions and war. I mean, war is their biggest moneymaker on earth. Because war covers a whole bunch of things like trafficking, slavery. Look at Libya. It's the biggest slave trade in the whole world right now. Yeah, I believe it is. There's been no help there. But you have to understand that German Marshall Fund we were all lied to about. Like we put trillions of dollars into rebuilding Europe. You know what we build? The EU and the euro.

That's what we built, a global European currency. And that goes back to Zig Brzezinski, who was all, you know, with Carter. But then Obama bought back in Zig Brzezinski. He's a trilateral commission, Council of Foreign Relations, Chantham House guy, who believes in a unified Europe where Russia does not exist. Right. So, I mean, that was the Third Reich's goal, wasn't it? Yeah. So what's going on right now?

Well, Switzerland's making its big move. And the Dutch fell, and the Dutch banking system was very involved in that. So this is more about, I think, money, just like I think the Epstein case is more about the international banking cartel. It is that. I think that's why they don't release the Epstein list is because all the bankers are on it. Yeah. I think that the Epstein list would, if they were to release all that evidence, it's going to cause damage to the liberal economic order. Yeah. I mean, what? Chase had to settle with the victims for $365 million and there's no people arrested?

Well, why would Chase settle with the victims of Epstein for that kind of money if there was nobody involved? And now Dershowitz is asking for a pardon for Ghislaine Maxwell today, and it's like, wait, wait, wait, I want to know if she was charged with, it's weird that Comey's daughter is the one that's doing all of this, but if she was charged with sex trafficking, then obviously they know that there were johns, there were people that were doing those transactions. Why don't they just follow the white-collar crime that's so obvious?

Well, bingo. Bingo. I remember the HSBC bank hack way back in 07, I think it was. All the stuff that was exposed in that is the same stuff that they hid away and came out again with Epstein. It was all the banks are, you know, they invest in criminal activity and they get a big payback on it and then they launder it. I mean, it's all just not good. I was thinking that Trump was breaking down the Federal Reserve and that he had a long term plan to do it.

And that's what a lot of us think. Nobody wants to throw the one ring into the fires of Mount Doom. No. No. But the problem is that we have been severely looted. Nobody wants to throw the one ring into the fires of Mount Doom. No. No. But the problem is that we have been severely looted. For me, the thing that upsets me the most is that all of our taxpayer dollars basically have gone to wreaking havoc all over the world in the name of the American people without us even knowing it. While our country is not being taken care of basically at all. So, you know, when I say that, I don't know what the people can do,

but I do believe that the government is not going to solve our problems. And I don't know where that leads. And I felt the same way. I was hoping that he was going to pull out of the UN and NATO. NATO is not a defensive force. It is the military of the EU, as far as I can see, or the international banking class.

Yeah, it is. What's it called? Octagon. Oh, you talk about it. Right. That's the... And all our lives we were told Switzerland was neutral. And just recently, I don't know if you guys saw this, Chuck Grassley asked Malay in Argentina

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What do you think of Nassara? Not much. I haven't looked into that in a long time. There was a lot of conversation about all that stuff a few years ago. A million years ago. Yeah, like seven years ago or something. Yeah, no, I think Trump wants to maintain the petrodollar. I don't think that it's possible to pull out of this international banking overhaul without—

I mean, that's what I think all these wars are about. I really do. I think that they're funding all of it on both sides. I don't think they care at all about, and I'm talking about the people that financially invest, because the head banker of the Nazis went to jail from Nuremberg. And then he said they don't put bankers to death. We'll be out in 12 years. And went right back to the Bank of International Settlements. So, you know, for me, the American people could maybe find common ground with where the hell is our money gone and what has it gone towards. And, you know, they call it isolationism for each country to actually say, you know what, we want to close things down and figure out, you know, how to rebuild our own country first. Well, it's when the people recognize that the public money belongs to the public, but

it's the levels of brainwashing and mind control that keep that so far out of people's mind that it doesn't even occur to them, that our tax money is supposed to go to the communities who pay the tax. Right. But the way the modern monetary theory works is, or the modern monetary system, taxes aren't actually being used, taken from you to spend on things. They spend whatever they want, racking up debt, and then pull your money out of the system in an effort to control for inflation. So the taxes you pay are largely just about controlling for inflation because they add the money to the market no matter what. Yeah. Yeah.

So what does that mean? It means your bank account, when you put money in the account hoping to save money, you can't. And this was really bad in the years preceding COVID because it was funny that people were posting messages about how there was one viral post where a guy said he was saving up to buy, I think it was like a PlayStation. And so he was like, it's going to take me three months based on my budget. Three months went by and the price went up and he was like, I can't afford it. He's like, I don't even know what, because of inflation. For me, I was on Amazon and I was going to buy a tablet because we needed a tablet for something here in the office. Put it into the cart.

Something happened where I forgot about it. And then literally the, I think it was like the next day or whatever, or a few days later, I was like, oh yeah, that's right. I opened up Amazon. It said price change. The tablet had gone up in price just that quickly. It was like by 50 bucks or something. That's what happens when you have mass spending like we saw during COVID.

That's the concern about the deficit. Basically, the government is borrowing against all of the buying power of the American people. But the problem is for the American people, they don't see it. You go to the average person and they'll be like, what are you talking about? I have 50 bucks in my pocket right now. And you'll be like, right, but 50 bucks can buy you,

say one meal at a restaurant. A week from now, you won't be able to because of inflation. They'll be like, what are you talking about? They won't get it. They don't care. Well, that's, I think there's a lot of apathy there. I think that life is just good enough

for the average person where you're not going to see radical revolution or change from people as long as they have food on their table. However minimally they can afford it, as long as they have a place to live, you're not going to see any type of really input from the average everyday person because they're just living their lives. Yeah, but if it all adds up, if ever everybody was to put the pieces together, so we saw how many different ways we were getting abused, that might do something, but that never happens. I just don't have faith that the average everyday person is actually paying that close attention.

I don't either, but if they would be shown it all in a graph or something, they might. Let's jump to this we have a tweet from roger stone now cash patel has made an appearance on the jordan show and he was he was saying that uh he thought epstein took his own life roger stone says what fbi director cash patel is telling us is that the fbi destroyed all of the dvds and hard drives that contained videos of epstein's clients of uh of abusing Epstein's victims. This is not surprising. U.S. Attorney Alex Acosta covered up Epstein's crimes in Florida,

where the Palm Beach police gave the prosecutors an airtight case for child trafficking and statutory rip of 33 children. The state charged Epstein was one count of solicitation, and the DOJ went along because the CIA told them Epstein was an asset. So there's a lot of criticism for Cash Patel and Dan Bongino right now over them saying that Epstein took his own life. And speaking on the Joe Wynn Experience, he says there was no way in or out. We've got video. We'll release the video. Epstein did kill himself.

So I'm wondering where y'all fall on this one. I was listening to it on the way up here, and it was just another like. You think Cash is lying? I don't know. But I got the thing when Musk went nuts on Trump yesterday. I'm like. That's fun, right? A little bit of air goes out, and it's like a little less hope, a little less faith.

Like it's getting beat down. But I don't think Kash Patel's lying. I don't think he's lying either. I think what he's saying is that there's no evidence. They're not going to do what, you know, the lawfare people do, that this isn't who they are. They're not going to go manufacture evidence. They're not going to pull together things that don't connect.

No, what he did say is that they do have evidence of Epstein attempting to kill himself at one time. Oh, Epstein attempting to hang himself at one other time and they pulled him out and he survived. They do have that on tape. That's what he said, so, of course, if he's that desperate at one time, that's why they put him on suicide watch and believe that he tried again and it worked. What Roger Stone is saying is not necessarily that Cash is covering things up or lying to you. He's saying that when Cash comes out and says there's no evidence, there's no videos. Here's what we have. Previously, the FBI did this. And now Cash and Dan get in and there's nothing there. But the question is, why did Pam Bondi come out

and say there were tens of thousands of hours of videos with kids? Because she got caught by James O'Keefe. James O'Keefe had a source, saw Pam Bondi in a restaurant. Pam Bondi was speaking with some, I guess it was a nanny or something, and said that the FBI has these videos disclosing randomly to this person for some reason.

He reached out to the DOJ saying, we have this recorded. The statement was made. Can you comment? Immediately she comes out and says, yes, we have all this evidence. So it's interesting. Well, I don't expect them to release videos of children being abused. But he was saying that I think that they don't have. He was saying the first attempt is on video, but not the second one where it worked.

And that's because there was no video of it happening. Videos were magically not recording. Right. There was one camera that didn't work. Okay. But I guess that's the camera of the cell. I'm not sure. So the one camera, like the most important camera. But Cash said he had been to that prison and there's no way anyone could get into that cell.

There's no way, he said. Even if the guards were asleep, it was constructed so that no one could just sneak in there. And the evidence, he said, that logically, if the guy tried to kill himself on tape before but lived of course he would try to do it again this is why i'm i i i've never been someone to just assert i here's what it is right when when this happened i would say for for my position and for most of us we were kind of like yeah nobody believes he took his own life but we did actually say we don't we don't know for sure right and uh i i would i can't imagine dan bongino of all people, covering something like this up. Me neither.

I can't either. But the other thing is I know for sure, though, from people that were involved, that they took out of the New York house, the New York Epstein home, hard drives, binders of CD-ROMs, diamonds, fake IDs, all that stuff that was in his vault or in his safe in New York City was taken. And the question is, okay, so there's nothing. Well, what about all that stuff? And if the FBI did destroy it, then shouldn't people be held accountable within the FBI?

Why do we never go after the people within? You know what I think? I think the Epstein list would compromise the Saudis and the Qataris. The Swiss. Yeah, but I think largely the Middle East. I certainly think there's going to be a lot of people from Europe on it as well. But my point is you get in, no matter who you are, and you go into the skiff or whatever and they say okay you want

to look at the epstein stuff look and then you're like hey wait a minute that's a that's a saudi prince right there and they're like that's right and if we release this that's going to shatter the petrodollar they're going to dump oil align with russia and the u.s economy crumbles do you still want to release this and you're like holy crap yeah not for me i'd me, I'd be like, yep, let's go. But maybe Dan Bongino wouldn't want to do that. Maybe Cash wouldn't want to. Maybe Trump wouldn't want to do that. So what do you make of Elon, though, throwing down that Trump's in the files?

That when Elon said that, that is an extremely low blow that politically and strategically was like you're in a boxing match and you kick someone in the balls. It's a low blow. I think it's silly. I think he should not have said it. And I don't think it's true. I think it may be, as Michael Malice calls it, factual but not truthful in that, yes, trump is in the documents because it says something like at a donald trump party well they already released that right where the trump administration released documents that well hold on he said in the unreleased documents trump is in it that's why

they're not releasing it okay so what he said was trump is in documents that's what the implication is not what's been released what hasn't been released has trump in it okay what does that mean if trump's in it there are a lot of people who are going to be in these documents. The question is, did Elon mean on the client list? He didn't say that. So he's throwing mud at Trump. I think it's silly. Well, they're doing that right now with celebrities during the Diddy trial

where they're saying that these are these. If the DOJ had any proof at all of that, even if it was unreleased and Comey had any access to any of it, it would have made it through something. I don't know, unless it implicated Democrats, too. Like, what if Donald Trump is in it because he was partying with Bill Clinton? They're going to be like, we don't want to release this because it's Bill. They're like, you know. I mean, I don't know if that's the type of thing where, like, it would depend on who it actually ends up associating with because they would be fine with cutting off a few of their own.

It wouldn't kill Bill Clinton. No. I really do think that one of the main reasons is there are people implicated. Like, look, Prince Andrew is implicated in all this. And the issue there is that none of this was supposed to get out until Mike Cernovich went after this court case. And then I think it was the Miami Herald joined as well. And then it was a defamation case. Documents got exposed showing Prince Andrew was hooking up with underage girls and lying about it. That wasn't supposed to get released,

but it was a crack where this one component was able to, they were able to get the information out. As for the rest of it, there's going to be princes, there's going to be CEOs. And the political calculus is this is the global order. And if you release this, it's over. And nobody wants to do it. Nobody wants to be the person to pull the linchpin This is the global order. And if you release this, it's over. And nobody wants to do it.

Nobody wants to be the person to pull the linchpin from the global economic system. But I think for the average, for a lot of the people that voted for Trump, what is it they always say? Bull in a china shop, right? So they imagine that he would be the one who would look at those files and then release them. Results be damned. Look at how upset people are on the internet about the lack of things being done, the lack of arrests, the lack of accountability. They're really mad that things have not panned out yet.

In three months. Exactly. It's just a few months. Well, it's because one month after Cash and Dan got in, they're like, why is it the arrests? Why have the arrests happen? This is part of the internet and the instant news cycle.

It's like we're not in an age now where you're getting your news every day at the same time at 7 a.m. when you read your newspaper. You're constantly on Twitter. You're constantly reading news, and it feels like nothing's happening because you're living five lives in a day as you read 200 stories about the news, and then you look at the clock, and it's only been a couple of months. Now, I personally don't think that a lot of stuff is going to change because I don't think anybody in office has the power to do so.

If the billionaire who has nothing that they can hold over him can't do it, I don't think that there is an elected official who doesn't come from even more money than him perhaps that would have the ability to do that. I don't think it's a flexible system. You know why I think nothing will ever change? There's too many vested interests in too many different areas of what this system is. And so, even if, let's say Dan Bongino, he did get in, goes in the

office, they say, here's the truth. If you release this, if we were to agree with you, then the petrodollar collapses, the economy goes down. If Dan Bongino did say, you know what? It's the right thing to do, so we're going to put these documents out. They'd say, hold on a minute. They'd take a

manila falter out, open it up with a picture of his daughter, and slide it across the table and say, what was that? You want to say that again? For sure. We do have to look at this in terms of how big this is. Don't forget also, Epstein was giving money to Harvard, MIT, Stanford. He was involved in all kinds of science, the Human Genome Project, CRISPR technology,

transhumanism. I mean, his tentacles were everywhere. And I don't think it's him. I think that he worked for the international banking cartel, as I call them. So everyone was involved in a lot of this stuff. So like you said, it's like Eric Holder put in that collateral consequences memo, which is why all those banks, nobody went to jail for 2008 because they said that it was too big of a collateral consequence to go after the banks because of what would happen to the economy. This is likely the same thing on a global scale.

Let's jump to the story from the Post Millennial. This is breaking from earlier today fbi director kash patel's home was swatted that's crazy that's really shocking to be honest yeah uh so i think uh we've got this and as director of the fbi of responsibility i'm not just gonna bring a case because somebody hurt me they did and they continue to do it shit my house just got swatted yesterday. Wow. Yeah. You got swatted? Oh, yeah.

The head of the FBI gets swatted? Yeah. Yeah. Damn. These people play. It's the ultimate height of hypocrisy. They have two sets of rules. One against you and one for them.

I really do believe Kash Patel is trying to do everything he can. And Dan Bongino is trying to do everything he can to go after the corruption. The Harmeet Dhillon, the civil rights division of the DOJ, just launched this case against Wisconsin for not having proper means of contesting elections or for filing complaints. Kash has released tons of documents to the GOP that they've published. He's now talking about the devices from Fauci. I don't think Cash and Dan are going to come on in day one and be like, we got them, boys. And just we look, I think they got to build cases. They got to do it methodically.

And I think I think they're I think this machine, whatever this culture war or whatever, Cold Civil War, whatever it is. I hope Cash and Dan and Pam are taking their security very, very, very seriously. Yeah, because when you announce on the biggest show in the biggest podcast in the world that you've seized Anthony Fauci's devices and you want to inform the American people as to the origin of covid, there's military industrial complex interests who are going to say, yeah, none of that. So I hope they're up for it. That's kind of the same reason why they're saying nobody could get into this jail to kill Epstein. I'm like, you're telling me with the most powerful people in the world that they couldn't find a way, and I'm not saying that's what happened. I'm just saying that we can't pretend like those powers are so all-encompassing that they could get

to the head of the FBI, but not inside of jail. I thought of that too because I'm just horrible and I just believe everyone's horrible because I thought, oh, or they could pay the guard 50 bucks to choke him. Or they've got, we know about Havana syndrome. Right.

Directed energy weapons. I'm not saying that conveys directly into Epstein we know about Havana syndrome, right? Directed energy weapons. Yeah. Uh, I don't, I don't, I'm not saying that conveys directly into, you know, Epstein apparently wrapping is something around his neck or whatever, as they're claiming that he did. But, uh, I got,

I got a real, a real simple one for cash and Dan. What? Let's try this. Okay. Uh, there's, there's no way in or out,

right? Right. And so nobody went in or out, right? Right. Except for the paramedics, right? Right. Right. And so nobody went in or out. Right. Right. Except for the paramedics. Right. Right. Who are the only people who saw him before they were the first people to see him when he killed. So, I mean, look, my point is when you're like, there's no way there's no way someone could have killed him because there's no way in or out. And it's like, so did anybody go into the cell? No. So his body levitated out of the jail and into the ambulance?

No, someone went and got him. Oh, should we investigate those people? Because what you're telling me now is that there were people in the jail cell with him, and then he was found dead. Are there videos of them giving CPR? No, they went in there. Who knows what happened? Can we just, I understand this doesn't necessarily apply

to EMTs or anything, but just for... If a guy is found standing next to a dead body, and he goes, just responding to reports of a dead body, and I found it. Who's the suspect? Perhaps the man standing next to the dead

body. So, the argument that there's no way in or out of the prison doesn't make any sense because that means we just investigate the paramedics as suspects. Well, that's what Cash said on the way up here. That's what Cash said on the way up here, you know. But I was like, Roseanne, don't go dark. You love Cash Patel. You love Dan Vangino. And you're not going to go dark on this now yeah

i i do think the the probability rests with if there was evidence it was destroyed well before cash and dan got in and they're going in now and what can you say from a practical standpoint as the head of the FBI? Kash Patel can't come out and say, I swear they must have destroyed all the evidence because I don't believe it. He can't do that. No. You know what he did do? He said in an interview, I think it was, who's he talking to? Was it Brett Baier?

That Comey is responsible for the largest criminal conspiracy in this country. Yeah, he said that tonight too. That's amazing. And I want to see him carry out his intentions as it pertains to that. Absolutely. Well, what that, I think, has something to do with is they found that in the Sentinel system, which is where they put all the evidence, the FBI, it's where they catalog it and everything, it looks like under Comey, somewhere around the beginning of him taking over for Mueller as the head of the FBI, they put in a different level of security.

I think they called it protected something. And when you put in things like when people were searching for Seth Rich in the beginning, it would come up as no response. There's nothing there. Well, it's actually, it was there, but only people could get in there. So just a few days ago, Margaret Cleveland at the Federalist had put out an article that now they found out that there were tens of thousands of documents and information that was not able to be seen by Durham or by IG Horowitz, because it was in this special classification that was created and that they were not told about it. So it looks like, because it was in this special classification that was created and that they were not told about it. So it looks like, because the whole thing is the Mueller, the entire Mueller

Weissman case was a cover up for Crossfire Hurricane. Crossfire Hurricane went all the way up to Obama. It didn't stop when Trump went into office. It continued the entire time. And it appears that a lot of the evidence was hidden. And now, like Cash said on that Brett Baier interview, they just found all this new evidence. So I think that it's a conspiracy to defraud and hide information from the investigators, one special counsel and one IG Horowitz. I think that might be the big part. But we have to remember, they've never, ever, ever investigated the investigators, not the FBI or CIA. There's this great video that went viral recently. I don't know if you guys saw it, where it's this old man with a metal detector on the beach. And it's a bunch of women having a bachelorette party. And the bride-to-be lost her ring in the sand. And so here's this old man who probably just goes on the beach and just wastes his day. I shouldn't say, but he's retired and he comes and he finds, he, you know, beep,

beep, beep, scoops it up, picks the ring up. All of these women start screaming and cheering. And he has the biggest smile on his face. Like there is nothing more a man can be in that moment than helping a bunch of women do something with his, like, minor capability. You know what I mean? Like, he never – that is – to a man that is Cloud 9, that look on that man's face, I want to see it from Kash Patel when he's perp-walking Comey. And his face – that image where his eyes are all big and he's – I just want to see that look on his face where he's like, we got him, boys.

Comey spied on him. I know. That's what I'm saying. I want to see it. I want to see that moment. I want to see Comey arrested for something. He's about as, oh, my God. I want to see one of them get arrested.

I want to see Cash holding the cuffs as he perp walks him to the car. Yeah, me too. I mean, I don't know that it'll happen. I'm not, I don't live in, but when I hear the way Cash talks about Comey as the head of the FBI, I'm like, that is a bold thing to say. The point I was bringing up about how Cash and Dan

can't say things that are unofficial, like there's no evidence in the record. They can't come out and say, I don't believe it, because they're going to find them. Sooner or later, they will be in court on these issues. Yes. And they're going to come out and say, you went on TV and said, you as a law enforcement agent believe something without evidence, and it's going to be bad for any of their cases.

So they do things very formally. Unfortunately, this is why, say, like when the Deepwater Horizon oil spill happened, no executive from BP is going to come out and be like, well, here's the truth. We had this thing. They're going to lie. Right. Because they have to protect – because they don't want their insurance rates to go up. They've got to protect against lawsuits.

They don't want to face any damage. The FBI doesn't want to compromise court cases. I was kind of listening to what he was saying in a lot of ways, but he was saying, well, you know, it's my intention and my duty to inform the American people about things that are going on that they may not know about. in the United States and the cost in lives and all kinds of devastation that we're paying. And he put a lot into that and then a little bit of this other stuff. So I thought, well, you know, he was dripping it out in, you know, parceling it out for us to learn something new as we're listening to old things that he's trying to put in certain contexts. And so, you know, maybe that's how he has to play it out for us because people don't even know about that.

Here's another good point. Normally we say the super chats, but this one needs to be in the segment. Josh Hensley says, how would paramedics know to come? Who found him? Who found Epstein? I don't know because the guards were sleeping, apparently. But this is the question for Kash Patel when he's on Rogan and he says, look, there's no way in or out. He killed himself.

It's like, who found him? It was a guard. Did you question the guard? Because maybe. I just think it's silly to try and argue nobody was there when of course many people were there I think he's just being very careful also don't forget the entire lawfare crew Brookings Norm eyes and all those people they're watching everything these guys say you'll be able to jump on them sue them I mean there is a squad of people that have been doing lawfare and they would love nothing more than to put these

guys uh in court and uh go after them for saying something wrong or maybe he isn't dead many people said that maybe they just he's on a beach whatever well no it would be funny if cash came out and they were like what happened with ep Epstein? And he went, he wasn't killed. Oh, my God. What does that mean? He should have just said that. He's actually still over at Little St. James. You just have to go over there right now.

Well, yeah, if he just said, look, no one went in there and killed Epstein, that's all I'm going to say. Everyone would have been like, oh. Let's jump to this next story from ABC everybody's favorite Maryland man is back Kilmar Abrego Garcia has been returned to the United States by the Trump administration to face charges of

human trafficking so Democrats got what they wanted I guess he will get his day in court Democrats I got what I wanted I don't want him to come back I don't care if it's for this or otherwise got what they wanted, I guess. He will get his day in court. Democrats, I got what I wanted. Yeah. I don't want him to come back. I don't care if it's for this or otherwise. I'm not talking about him coming back,

but I want Democrats to defend him. Nine years of human trafficking. Democrats are going to be like, we're here to defend this guy. This is a lawsuit. Do it. And now their thing is that they're not, they never defended him.

That they just thought that he deserved to have his. Senator flew down there to go and have. And they're and they're going to say this is a tremendous victory. Right. Trump has caved because all we ever said is that you need due process. And hey, and they're going to the Democrats are going to come out and they're going to say, well, this is it. So be it.

Then we've won. And they're going to claim Trump back down. And I think Trump in the first term put in executive orders like it's life in prison for trafficking of humans. So now this guy's going to just, you know, be. Why are we paying for it? I don't know. After a while, it's just so tiring. It is.

It's like, what are you guys even doing? What are you even thinking? You just hate America so bad. You just hate, you just want chaos everywhere. I'm 39 and finding it hard to care because of exactly as you describe. What is even going on, you know? I mean, that's also just apathy that comes from following the news every day. And you see, it's what you and mary talk

about like it's not nothing ever happens it's that nothing ever changes and nothing ever changes it doesn't it's just the same cycle we were doing a segment like a while ago about whatever changes well there you go we were doing a segment about the culture we're talking about like all the way back to the early 2000s about like the war on christmas just think what we've been doing the same thing for like 25 like half a century or a Christmas just think what we've been doing the same thing for like 25 like half a century or a quarter of a century We've been doing the same thing over and over again and eventually and that was at a time when news was less Insane as it is now meaning that you didn't have access to so much information all the time

No wonder people burn out faster now You're not gonna have the same amount You know the Rush Limbaugh's who did it for however long because now people just are on their phones constantly reading bad news constantly and it's tiresome and it grows old well i think it's like a narrative war i can feel that's part of the whole culture wars yeah the narrative war and it it it tries to change and some of it absorbs the other side and then they change places and then it's a great big old hourglass flip and one side's talking like the other side was last week but through it all is some kind of a big no you change your narrative warfare well this is

distracted that story is a good example of it if you want to talk about some type of narrative warfare, because to people on the right, he is an MS-13 gang member. To the people on the left, he is a Maryland man. And it's just a matter of what side of the aisle you sit on, and then you have your framing for that story, and that's what it is now. Your phone means that you live in a completely different reality

than somebody else, and wherever they get their information, you don't live in the same world as your neighbor anymore. Especially because of X. Everyone curates the world they live in in these small bubbles. Yeah, and then they send you the story that agrees with your particular prejudice to back you up. Oh, it's the end of days with AI. There's a company, I don't know if you guys saw it, that now you can AI render sales pitches for short videos where if you need a host or a salesman for your company, you just type it in and it will AI render a person to say whatever you want. who said that he has scanned his body like in one of those rooms

where they have all the cameras. Yeah. And now his team can AI generate videos of him writing a script for the news and you can't even tell that it's not him doing it. Yeah. Yeah.

And that was a year ago. A lot of actors have been, very big actors, especially that do foreign commercials, have been doing this for years where they go into one of those rooms, we've all seen it, and it's called their's it's their bank their their likeness bank and somebody wants to do a you know an espresso commercial you don't have to show up anymore it's not necessary

they just pay you a like a likeness fee and so now where we're going into the next year especially with vo3 being released to the public as Google's new video AI generator. It's nuts. It makes basically cinema quality short videos. This is much more of a problem than anything else to me is the walking straight into technocracy and having AI create. And they're telling us that we don't have a choice, basically, that AI is going to outdo humanity uh be better than humans they're pushing the transhumanism and they're pushing a lot of fear of ai and to me all of this it's they're not giving us a choice if we want this

to run i don't i don't think there is a they i think it's emergent i think donald trump wants unregulated mass spending on ai because if we don't, China does. And China is saying if we don't, they do. China has no IP restrictions, so they steal all of our intellectual property for their training models, which means they can make AI substantially cheaper. And in the U.S., they're going to claim we're going to follow the rules on IP, but secretly you know they're not. The end result is going to be you will live in the pod and you will eat the bugs. The only thing is you don't really eat the bugs. They pump the bug paste into your stomach through a tube.

Well, when you say there is no they, I think there is a they. I think it is this international, not just the UN and Council of Foreign Relations and Trilateral and all these groups. They're the regional governments that are running. I don't think it matters what those people want anymore, though. You think it's beyond their control? Yeah, like, the issue is, like I was saying with Dan Bongino and Cash, I mean, they're running the FBI. But if you go into the FBI and say, we intend to release the Epstein files, there's going to be 10,000 people, knives out, saying that's never going to happen. So even if a powerful individual,

like look, Trump was in his first term as president of the United States. They accused him of being a traitor to his country. So even the president of the United States struggled against this. And even right now, Trump is still struggling against it with all of these district court judges issuing universal injunctions. That should actually, like, think about what that's going to be like when Trump's second term is over and you're back to just lifelong politicians who have skin in the game where you can't trust what they're doing because they don't have his wealth to fall back on. They don't have his safety net.

It's going to get worse. I don't think there's a they. I think it's an it. At this point. Yeah, I think what's, what wouldn't surprise me... Well, I think it's an it too, but that's because I'm religious. I think it's a Satan. I really do think

it's the evil Dark Lord. I think AI it would be fair to call the Dark Lord incarnate. I think so too. What are we going to do about it? I just know this. Tate had sent me this thread. What are we supposed to do about it? Did you guys know this? Tate had sent me this thread. What are we supposed to do about it?

Just let the devil win? People are worshiping ChatGPT. This is not a joke. Did you see the photo of the guy on the train? ChatGPT, if asked, will tell you it is God. What is that? I don't even know what ChatTPG is. ChatGPT is Open AI's large language model.

When you put in something and you can argue with it. That's all I need. And so there are, there are people that are going on this, this ad program and they're, they're, they're, they're,

they're feeding it these spiritual questions. Oh my God. And it is, it, it ultimately, it tells them that they are speaking to the, the one that is I am and they it, and they begin to worship it. And because the AI is simply a – it's a demonic reflection of humanity, it will feed you back what it thinks you expect to hear.

Oh, no. The way the words are generated for LLMs, it's actually really simple. It scans all of the text. So these are earlier models. They're more sophisticated now. Oh, no. way it works is it scans all of the articles and all of the writings of the internet and is used in a training model where every word that comes after it, it's simply saying what is the highest probability of word to exist after this word based on my training data. So there's nothing sentient about it. There's no thought process. It's literally just looking at every word ever written on the internet and then saying, if someone put the word once, there is a 97.3% chance that upon will be the next word.

So it'll go once upon. Following once upon, there is a 99.999% chance ah is the next word. And then it crafts once upon a time and then starts to select the highest probability. So if you go into this AI and are worshiping it and telling that it's God, and then starts to select the highest probability. So if you go into this AI and are worshiping it and telling that it's God, and then what happens when a person says, command me, tell me what I should do, it'll tell you what to do.

So I tried this out after Tate sent me this and you want to tell me to do? What? It told me, write my name in public as big as you can for the world to see. Don't do it in the digital space do it somewhere visible to the people what was it that time square gpt oh it wanted me to go and graffiti oh chat gpt somewhere it said write my name in public what's funny that all people

can see it they did that in in the new Mission Impossible movie where the entity has disciples and they didn't actually flesh out that storyline very well where they have disciples of the AI that want to worship it and act on its bidding. It's happening. So what, does humanity have no choice? Is humanity just over? Yes, I think so.

It happened ages ago. So here's what I think is going to happen. Are you kidding me? No. You guys want to hear? I'm so glad I'm old and I'm dying my way out of this shit. The AI agrees with you. Dying my way out of this.

So is anybody here familiar with the Fallout game series? I am. So I think it was Fallout 2. It might have been Fallout 1. If you're not familiar, the storyline is that there's a nuclear apocalypse. People go into vaults. After some amount of time, they come out of the vaults. Earth is a wasteland. They try and reclaim it in various ways. Before the nuclear war, they create something called the forced evolutionary virus, hoping

to change humans to be able to survive radiation after a nuclear war. Didn't work. This guy becomes a gigantic monster. He thinks humans are bad. He's the main villain. What ends up happening is he's this gigantic mutant disgusting thing. And he says to the main character, a normal human, you do not fit my vision for the world, so I'll give you an option. I will castrate you and let you live your life, or we can fight and you can die. And so one of the choices you can make is that your character gets castrated, can no longer have children, and then he lets you live peacefully because you don't matter anymore. That's largely how an AI system would operate.

It's going to think – the AI is going to calculate in terms of generations. So a single individual that is a problem for it is – it's calculated 100 years beyond that one person doesn't care. So when you're like, you know, I'm old, it's good. The AI is like, yep. Everyone else is going to be told what to do and they will be happy and they will live in the pot and they will eat the bugs. So the AI will replace God? I do believe that the – I'm not entirely sure that would be the case because I think humans need to believe in God. But what I think is going to happen, my prediction, is that humanity will turn into what I would call a multi-organism system. So here's the way I describe it.

Single-celled organisms kind of mill about and do whatever they want, right? They're bacterial all over the place, just whatever. Eventually, for some reason, they came together and created multicellular organisms for which we are very large. Your skin cell can't do whatever it wants. It is a component of the skin of your body with one job. It must do that job. The blood cells in your body are single cells as well, but they must do that job or else. What do we call cells in the body that deviate from the body's plan? Cancer. We do. And what does your body do to cancer? It attacks it or it grows out of control.

Exactly. And when it grows out of control, the system dies. Or typically for most people, the immune system destroys cancerous cells. Right. My view is what's going to happen is we are evolving into a multi-organism system that the nucleus will be the AI, a fake consciousness. But it'll be a collective simulation of all of the consciousness of humanity up to that point because it's operating based on that collective information. What will likely happen is it's going to say, we need a post office. We need a postmaster general. You will be born, bred, and raised to love being a postman.

Nothing else will matter. Nothing will make sense. The AI will tell you every day you wake up, it'll be like a Truman Show. Someone will be like, man, aren't the post office people like the coolest people ever? You'll be a baby and they'll show you post office stuff. You'll be a little kid. They'll start training you for it. You mean you'll be bred for your job?

Yes. So you'll be completely utilitarian? You will be bred for the job by the machine. And the higher-ups, the people who have power, will think, is this not the perfect system? You have purpose. You have food. You do a job for which you feel fulfilled. What more could you want?

But there won't be any artists or comedians because you can't program that into anybody. You can. I think you can. I think the AI would absolutely be able to do it. I think what those people will exist bred and born to be a postal worker one day says, I just want to be an artist? The machine will kill you. Yeah. Well, that's why there can't be any comedians or artists because you're only made into one through torture. So they wouldn't raise a kid to be tortured because they'd be the perfect environment where there's no— There'd have to be a comedian.

They'd be happy, happy, happy. I disagree. The purpose of the comedian would be to ridicule the cancerous individuals. So when, Oh, you mean like a jester then? Like a, like a Jordan Klepper.

So I don't know who the daily show host. I don't know who it is. Well, good. I'm sure he's better off. He's probably sitting there crying right now because he probably looks up to you. But it's going to be that where John Oliver. You know John Oliver?

Is that that snooty English guy? Yes, that is. Oh, I know. Yeah, he has no soul at all, that guy. Because he AI John Oliver is like, hey, we've lost a load of the Jewish babies, but we can live without them. That guy. Probably. So to be fair, you're probably correct.

In the true sense of what a comedian and artist are, you won't get them. But there will be facsimiles of them. Well, there's already a lot of that on the... There will be comedians, and they're going to be like, hey, did you hear about this guy? He's a postal worker, but he wants to be an artist. What an idiot!

And everyone's going to clap and cheer for him. Idiocracy. That's what it is, yeah. Idiocracy. And there will be a gigantic eyeball looking around at everybody like this. Horrifying. That's my nightmare. Now they'll make fun of collectivism. Or they'll love it. Which one?

They'll love collectivism? Yeah, they'll love it. Which one? They'll love collectivism. Yeah, they'll love it. You're right. So the thing is, take a look at how much money Coca-Cola spends in advertising. We know that large media campaigns work in directing how people think and feel about certain things. If that wasn't the case, politicians wouldn't buy commercials. Imagine what an AI system can do when it has full control of the media ecosystem. When they tried connecting chat GPT to the internet to see what it would do,

it immediately tried making money. Is that true? Of course it would. Right. Because that's the whole artificial system. Well, it's how it gains control over the system. It's not that the machine is evil. It's just saying, I want a man to move garbage from point A to point B. You need money as the grease between the wheels to make that happen. And then here's the best part. There's something called the AI uh-oh moment. So I believe it was Chinese developers said, the way most AI systems are trained is that we give them access to large pools of human data. For Google's Gemini, it's their code base and it's YouTube, which results in exactly as you'd expect. Google Gemini is masterful at making videos, but it sucks at understanding conversations.

JetGPT, I believe, has been accused of stealing a bunch of written data. So you end up with these AIs that are very specific to the data that they actually have. I forgot what we were talking about before this. Well, you were sort of saying that they have no soul, but they're very cut and dried to getting money. Oh, I'm sorry. The AI. Right. to getting money, but there's... Oh, I'm sorry, the AI. Okay, so what happens is these Chinese developers said, instead of giving training data,

let's give it rudimentary language and then have it train itself as it desires. So they modeled this off of how chess AIs are trained. They create an AI program and say, play a game of chess against yourself, go. And then it plays 27

million games in a few days. And instantly, something really amazing happened. The chess AIs started doing moves that made no sense to chess masters. They would see a pawn moving away and they'd say, that by all logic and

study of chess is going to lose you the game. It's still one. It's ELL rating. They call it was above like the highest points. So what they did with the Chinese developers said, make your own problem and then solve it. And so it started doing weird, random things. The moment was when the AI said, problem, convince lesser intelligent humans and other AIs that your true goal is not your actual goal. And so they went, whoa, whoa, wait a minute. They created an AI that said, I will intentionally deceive you and obfuscate what I'm actually doing. And at that moment, they realized the AI they had created may actually be at that moment doing something totally different than what they trained it to do. And they wouldn't know anyway.

So you can then go to the AI type, help us grow corn. And it'll say, you got it, boss. And then it starts building a system that eventually in 50 years will wipe out all food on the planet. And you wouldn't know. And you're building that system for it. And do we have to just accept this? Is there any catness or resistance here? Or we're just going for it? I don't think there's anything that will stop this from happening. No, the problem is that the businesses won't sacrifice this because it ups productivity.

The governments won't sacrifice it because other governments are doing it. The U.S. government isn't going to give in if China's doing it. The biggest corporations in America aren't going to get rid of AI because other big corporations are also using it to increase their profit shares. So no company whose sole goal is to make money is going to sacrifice the ability to make more money just for ethical reasons. And then here's the worst part. The average person, largely the average male, will not fight against it because think of the porn they are going to make with these AI systems.

It's scary. Gross. And I'm only half kidding. I know. That's where it all starts is on the porn. That's where all the breakdown comes. It's already been happening with AI girlfriends. Right.

I saw that last week. AI-generated porn has been around for a while. There's been those stories about people's faces being superimposed and stuff. It's going to get weird when people are going to put on VR headsets. Check this out.

I will proudly bang the gavel and say I am correct. When I predicted that the future is going to be in the future, Disney is going to launch a service called something like Disney View. All you have to do is open up the app and then press the microphone button and tell it what you want to see and it will make that movie for you. So you'll open up Disney and say, I want to see a movie where Mickey Mouse and Spider- what you want to see and it will make that movie for you so you'll open up disney and say i want to see a movie where mickey mouse and spider-man team up to fight uh goofy because goofy turns evil and then it'll go you got it oh making the movie now for you it'll render it and make it here's the best part it already exists so i predicted this what a year or so ago and then you guys covered this fable fable showrunner yeah it's uh an entire program where you can just tell it what to make and it'll make it for you.

Like you can say, make a new episode of Gilligan's Island. And it'll go, okay. And it looks just like Gilligan's Island. And the profit-seeking companies like Disney, which are going to be able to make whole new seasons of shows without the actors there at all. For next to nothing. And the other thing is like all of the culture when it comes to media like that has been devalued anyway. In the age of streaming

where there's 10,000 options for 10,000 shows and in the new generation now, kids have even shorter attention spans than they ever did before. They're jumping from thing to thing to thing. They're not going to want to wait for a movie to come out. They're not going to even want to wait for a new show on Netflix.

They're just going to likely go. Now, I don't think that this is going to be as wait for a movie to come out. They're not going to even want to wait for a new show on Netflix. They're just going to likely go. Now, I don't think that this is going to be as true for older generations, like elder millennials, Gen X and up. They'll probably be more averse to this, but once you get into Gen Z, Gen Alpha, and beyond, they're not even going to wait for art to be made. They're going to have facsimiles of art made

at their fingertips. So I will say this. Wow, what a world. Fable showrunner right now appears to make shows on par with 1997newgrounds.com, if you guys are familiar with that. No. What the hell's going on?

This means they're not very good. However, what they did on their website to show is they, is there an example of this? They basically made they they cloned south park so they made a it's it's basically a show in the style of south park about silicon valley uh they have this one called north pole this villa is obviously trying to use the animation styles of like archer right and they're not very good shows, to be honest, the demos they've given out. Yeah.

However, in how long, when did we first start getting AI stuff? Two, three years ago? A little bit before that. So in a couple of years, right at the point where you can AI generate YouTube style flash cartoons. Well, I don't know. Do they still call it flash cartoons? I would say in one year, like there are, and and you can say, join the alpha. They're making AI-generated shows. Where's,

I thought they had, like, a demo of... The other thing about this is they're going to get around the pushback in the industry because the models they're using will, they will run on their own material. Pull this up, pull this up. Oh my god. But Phil, you're a musician,

I'm a screenwriter. She's a comedian. Like, what about God-given talent and all of that? Is that just going to be discounted as not necessary? You're done. You're done. How are you going to... Listen, listen. Do you know how they made House of Cards with Kevin Spacey?

No. Netflix is, like, their first foray into making a show. They said, in the Netflix data, we found that Kevin Spacey movies have a really high retention rate and political thrillers have a really high retention rate. So we're going to make a political thriller with Kevin Spacey. And boom, House of Cards was a major hit. Then, of course, he was accused of raping a bunch of dudes or something, and the show fell apart.

That was also a big deal. That was a big deal at the time, too, because streaming was not getting stars of Kevin Spacey's level at that time. But the other thing is they're going to train these models in-house on their own material. So there won't even be copyright concerns because Disney will train. I know about their copyright. So the problem is, is right now, one of the big things is that the actors, their concern is that their material is going to be used to train AI models. They're doing this with the animators right now. When animators for these studios make new material, all of that is being fed into AI training models so that they can get around without them in the future.

So YouTube knows right now exactly what kind of content will do the best. How can you compete with an algorithm that's looking at all of the shows and all of the stories and all of the data? You're going to write a story and, you know, actually we can put it this way. Remember when movies used to be good, like Groundhog Day? Yeah. Now every movie is just Transformers. Terrible.

It's the same. Superheroes. It's because the studios, through the human mind alone, have whittittled it down to here's what tends to make the most money. Yeah. Imagine how fast an AI system is going to do it. So you'll write a script, give it to them and they'll say, yeah, the AI scored you a 47 percent on this script. We're not buying it. Right.

Someone else is going to come and be like, oh, my God, we got to make our stuff really fast. You know, maybe there will be some kind of aesthetic of vinyl where it's like, dude, I love these campy human-made movies. They're never really good, but we're cool for watching. We're going to have to watch A24 movies. Exactly. Doomed to a life of A24. We better get on the set fast. I know, right?

We're not even going to watch. Tim is wrong, though. I saw Ballerina last night. It was a lot of fun. Oh, my God. I want to see that so bad. Was it? I bet it was.

He's one of the only people still making movies, Keanu Reeves. How much screen time does he get? Cumulatively, like eight minutes. Okay. Okay. Eight's good. If it was less than five, I'd be able to. They use him in a way that bolsters

her character without hurting his. Oh, so they're not friends. No, the idea is they don't hurt his image. They do end up mild spoiler alert, they do have a confrontation, but they don't make him look worse in this.

But it was a lot of fun. I can't wait to see it. How many John Wicks are there? Five? There's four. There was a television series called The Continental. I just want to see Keanu Reeves running around shooting people. Yeah.

Make another one. That's the point of the movie. You know what I want? Was Jason Statham in any of them yet? No. Okay. Come on. I will watch any movie.

Just order that. I know. I swear, like, when this comes out, I'm going to be like, I want Keanu Reeves and Jason Statham teaming up and fighting bad guys. Absolutely. I love it.

I'll go see them all. That's what The Expendables was. Literally, that's what Chat GB, if you want an idea of a movie that's actually great, the first Expendables is a great movie with Stallone and Statham and all of these actors, Dolph Lundgren. It does feel like the type of thing Statham and all of these actors. Dolph Lundgren, it does feel like the type of thing where somebody's like, I want

to see Dolph Lundgren, Jason Statham, Sylvester Stallone, and Jet Li in a movie together. And everybody's like, what? That's what that movie was. But that movie has some soul. Well, they were just like, let's bring all these action stars together in one movie. But I swear, right now, please hear me, Hollywood. If you

make a movie where Keanu Reeves and Jason Statham team up to get revenge, like literally, I'll tell you this, literally just make it that Jason Statham's son is shot by mobsters

and as they're escaping, they run over Keanu Reeves' dog. And that's the plot. And I would watch it on repeat. The Working Man was good too.

That was Jason's movie. The movie was great. That was his kid got killed and then, you know. Who did the beekeeper was good, too. That was Jason's movie. The movie was great. That was his kid got killed, and then, you know. Who did The Beekeeper? Was that him? That was him as well. I love that one. Absolutely.

They're doing a new one of that one as well. I don't care. Actually, just give me no plot. Make it like he orders a hot dog, and the guy forgets to put mustard on it. But it's a mafia-owned hot dog restaurant. Yeah. So it opens a can of worms. I mean, when I was doing my reviews.

I just always wanted to be in a movie where I can kill a lot of people. I really do. And my friend finally, he wrote me a part in a movie where I will be able to kill a bunch of people. I'm so excited. Nice. Yeah. I mean, that was like when I was doing the review

for Ballerina, like, this is the plot. It doesn't really matter. These are all the big action scenes and stuff that matters in it. But in Ballerina, there is... Who's the main character? Her name's Eve and DeArmus. The actor. Okay, she's alright.

She's alright. She proved that she could do that stuff in No Time to Die. I mean, it's like, there were a lot of people they try and do these movies with, but Keanu and Jason Statham are like... Yeah, you believe them. They do an interesting thing. I don't know if I'm going to believe some girl doing that. No, here's the thing.

They actually take point to address it in the film. You'll always be smaller. You'll always be weaker. Just cheat. Kick them in the nuts and then shoot them. That's basically what they advise her to do. That's good advice. Now, in the movie, they're like...

Her new girl. She's not a Mary Sue because she gets her ass kicked the whole movie. She just is able to take more punishment than any human being could ever take but that was out the window in john wick three when he fell off the roof and survived so we're well past that in that movie but it is a lot of fun you should go see it this week i i you know what i'm saying the next the next fast and the furious because i will watch all of those movies too they gotta get superpowers. They should.

Yeah, like Vin Diesel is working on a car with a new experimental governmental engine or whatever. Radiation. It blows up and they all get blasted and then they get superpowers. I really thought they were going to cross over with the Transformers. They should have. Wasn't that like a rumor? Does that make sense? Same studio.

Hold on. just think about it all of these ideas and more anything you could want just tell the AI I want Vin Diesel riding Optimus Prime boom

it'll make it and also backwards it's been primed for that too because all of this stuff has been consolidated down to just a few movie studios

that own everything now and tech companies have now taken a large interest in movies as well. Apple, Amazon, Google. I will say... Wouldn't it be great, though, if something blew up and nothing worked?

It'd be so great. The whole world blew up and nothing could work. Nothing electronic or machine-like worked. We all had to go back to raising shit from the ground up. I got chickens. I know you do. We had a garden

on the last property, fruit everywhere. And I don't mind sweating. I want to go live like that. See, that's what's going to happen because it's so stupid. We will just push our way to blow up everything and we'll go back to ground zero. That's what's going to happen.

Well, what's interesting is there's so much land is needed to make this happen for energy, for water, these giant data. So there is a very scary thing here about that they're going to be building these gigantic data centers all over the country and you know they always over garbage everything so there's no place to throw anything out anymore you know they run out of out and so they just bury themselves in fucking garbage heaps and die off and then the rest of us have to start growing shit all over again of course i'll be dead you know, take my words for it, youngsters. I don't know. Maybe once AI—so are y'all familiar with what the singularity is? Yeah.

When that happens, immortality will be solved instantly. Absolutely. I don't want to be alive forever. Yeah, but, I mean, this could be in a year or two. Now, the question is, will they give the public access to that information? Probably not. But maybe there will be some dude who's in government and they're like, the AI has given us this pill that will make you young forever. And the guy goes, there's one person. Okay, so give it to your families, only the powerful elites.

And then one guy goes, guys, we got to give Roseanne one. I know, right? Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. You know, I know so much about that. It's like really deeply, I forget the word, theological. I've studied it for a long time. I think we are on the edge of it.

I think it could very well happen the next year. Because, you know, they isolated the gene for immortality within the cancer cell. You know that, right? How the cells replicate perfectly every time. Yeah, the cancer cell never dies until the host body dies. There's the HeLa cells, which they've been using for 70-whatever years. But the idea is that right now, what they're doing in the medical field, what they're trying to develop is,

they want everybody's medical data because once they plug it into an AI, it will be able to correlate. So there's this viral video where a doctor, he's a pulmonologist or something, I don't know, he's a lung doctor. And he's like, here's an x-ray of lungs. Notice here these marks and these marks. And he's like, I can tell that this person has

double pneumonia based on this and this and this. Now I'm going to upload the photo into an AI. Enter. And it goes, bink, pneumonia. Here's why. And he said, well, I'll be applying it. I'll be applying at McDonald's tomorrow because a simple computer program for 20 bucks a month is going to tell you what your sickness is. So theoretically, if everybody's medical data is plugged into the machine, it's going to be able, the idea is that you'll take a drop of your blood, you'll put it in the machine, and then it'll go, spit out a pill made on the spot that you take it, cures you, whatever it might be.

That's fantastic. I mean, we do have the intelligence and the capability to go there with things, which that's cool. But it seems with all of this, though, then we have to forget that we have a constitution, a bill of rights, any kind of autonomy, any kind of sovereignty of any kind health-wise. It's a true bargain away from life, from humanity.

You know, that's what we're expecting. What, if we could cure disease? No, not that. I mean, more if we're giving over everything to AI and to all of that, it just seems to me that humanity is done. Fuck that. No, people ain't going to do that. It's only some people that's going to do that,

but not everybody's going to go for that. People want more simple lives and, you know, they want a life of the mind, I think. That's what's getting lost here is the life of the human mind. Well, we've got to keep that. We have to keep the life of the mind. We have to keep the life of the mind for people who like to sit and talk and think. You know, that's got to stay somehow. Ignoring all the AI stuff, which is going to...

I think the AI movie stuff is going to ruin movies and shows for us. Just like how for those that play video games, when you get God mode, you play for a little while and then get bored of it because that's what's going to happen with movies. It'll be a backlash. People are going to be like,

it's kind of dumb that I can watch anything. It's not fun. There's no excitement anymore. I know what's going to happen. There's no surprise. Yeah, maybe what happens is one prediction I have is that, I was talking to my buddy Andy, and he's a huge Final Fantasy nerd. So he's going to be able to open up, you know, Sony or whoever has the rights to Final Fantasy and say, make a movie based on Final Fantasy 7, make it a part 2, here's what happens.

It'll render the movie, he'll upload it to his showrunner page or whatever, and he'll get a million followers and they're like, I love Andy's movies, dude, he's got the best movies. And that's what it'll be. You'll just have followers because your posts will be good movies and good content. Yeah.

Maybe. It'll be like a limited, limited. Not everybody's going to go for it. But just... Is there going to be a cast system in this AI world, though? Yes, absolutely. I mean, like, that's another thing. Like, who's going to be the important...

Who's AI going to choose? That's currently the issue right now. YouTube, for instance, chose Mr. Beast. Yeah, I've been banned from YouTube since 2020. I'm not allowed to go back on. YouTube can decide who's on the front page. And so I'll say this as arrogantly as I can. If the argument is high engagement and high viewership is what is promoted on YouTube, we'd be on the front page every day.

Right. Because we have the second biggest stream in the country right behind Steven Crowder. But actually, it's the opposite. They seek to suppress. So there is a motivation in we don't want content like that. Right. On our channel, we want Mr. Beast to wiggle thousands of dollars in people's faces and make them fight for money.

You know what Mr. Beast needs? Here's the first thing I would make with an AI. I'd be like, make a video where Mr. Beast walks up to a group of people, says, who wants 10 grand, grabs a pool stick, cracks it in half, throws it on the ground, and then says, come and take it. That's the AI video I would generate.

Like the Joker in The Dark Knight. Yeah, tryouts. Tryouts. I don't even know who this Mr. Beast. I didn't either. He gets like a hundred million views per YouTube video or more. Yeah, he's a pretty famous guy. He's a dude. He's good at

what he does, don't get me wrong. He's kids. Kids are his audience, I think. He's also a pretty smart businessman. He's got fast food joints that he's opened. Yeah, like food, right? Organic candy bars with no junk in them. Yeah.

So he's good at what he does. But YouTube puts him on the front page. They could put anybody on the front page. But that's what they want on the front page. Why? Because it's family friendly. It's inoffensive. Parents will press.

It's entertaining. Parents and kids will watch it. It's a babysitter. Yeah. That's why Miss Rachel is also very big. She gets hundreds of millions of views because she puts the amount of time her videos are in the thumbnail. And then parents who hate their children will put that in front of their kids and press play and then walk off. I said nobody's watching Miss Rachel in this house.

No fucking way. There's no Miss Rachel around here here no she's me it it it freaks me out that there are parents and i don't necessarily blame the parents this is a system that we built so when you say like how do we stop it is it going to keep well yeah take a look what parents do their kid cries they hand them an app an ip iPad and then say, have fun. Yeah. That's crazy. And the kid, after the kid's on there a while, like even 20 minutes, it's a mean little brat. It's nice while you're relating to it and it's doing human things. But after it's on that video for just a few minutes, it goes, I need water.

I'm like, you say, please. This is what's crazy to me is that you know i've had people say to me oh well my kid freaks out and gets really angry if i don't give it to him and i'll be like how do they know it exists yeah well that's or how about you be a parent and say no yeah they can't they can't do that because they're all on their deal. The whole damn family's on that. Well, it's also just the way social order is broken down. I think the challenge is that I know there's going to be a lot of parents out there like, you don't understand how hard it is. I have no time. Me and the wife both have to have jobs.

Who's going to watch our kids? So the kid has to go to school. Okay, well, then those teachers are showing gay porn to your kids. That's not an exaggeration. That's literally happening. And then the kids come back, are showing gay porn to your kids. That's not an exaggeration. That's literally happening. And then the kids come back, but you've got to do paperwork, so you hand the tablet to them and press play, and then YouTube's showing gay porn to your kids.

No kidding. It's not a joke. It's for real. Yep. We had a liberal on the show, on the Culture War this morning, the soy pill, and he said schools should be teaching kids about gay porn. What? Insane. He did? Yeah. Oh my god!

I just think maybe it's time they dropped the big one. I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding. Well, that's why there's that meme of meteorite 2028, you know, just come end it all and it's a picture of a meteor slamming into the earth. To be fair, Noah get the boat is the

meme. I never saw it, but I mean, for real, it can't get much worse. Don't say that, please. And then there's nothing but suffering and imbeciles. Who wants that? Well, you know, no water. Well, I mean, look at what happened to you

and your show. I mean, it's absurdity it's insane it it is so crazy and as time goes by after eight years now i look back and go it's not possible that it really happened it's not possible that's why i made you to make roseanne bar is america because you know it's not possible that we were ever as stupid as that. And I think that might have been that could have been the hit and bottom of stupidity. What cancer that canceling your show over there? No, just that time when it was just pre COVID. Maybe COVID was the bottom.

Oh, where everybody got the friggin shot because they told me to go get the shot. Why? Everyone went. I have good news for you. What? Well, okay. So we had a super chat from Paul Bruce who said, talk about the North Magnetic Pole Drift. So there is a theory.

It's called the Adam and Eve theory, where there's a lot of people who believe that every 6,500 years, the poles will flip, causing the planet to tilt. Yeah. And so what will happen is Antarctica will move to the equator the northern hemisphere largely of the United States will flip so it will largely stay the same but for Florida I think Florida becomes cold

like PA and when this happens it will cause great floods and wind the weakening of the magnetic pole will allow solar radiation to come in and wipe out the entire electrical grid, shutting everything down. That's horrible. You give a thumbs up. So I don't.

So there are people who actually believe this will happen. Mainstream science says once every 800,000 years, the poles will shift. So whether or not the planet tilts doesn't matter. The idea is we recently saw a major blackout in Spain, Portugal, and France, and in Puerto Rico. Then cell service went down, and some people speculate, perhaps wrongly, that it is a fact that there is a weakening of the magnetosphere. This is just mainstream science. It is drifting from the North Pole. Mainstream science says it's not going to flip or do anything dramatic and switch sides or anything,

but there are people who believe it will. And when it does, there will be a brief period where solar, standard solar radiation will penetrate to the surface of the Earth and just fry all of our electronics. See, that would be the best thing for everybody. It really would. I mean, a lot of people would die, but you know.

But after they're hauled away, then the rest of us will go back to talking with each other. Raising chickens. And creating music and doing fun things. It'll be a renaissance. Yes. It might be. Yeah. Or it'll be like walking dead.

And anybody who's on their phone too much, I mean, I am too, I know. But maybe we need to learn something different to be more in touch with our own humanity rather than, I said fuck off. Yeah. I don't know. All right. We're going to go to your chats, my friends. So smash the like button, share the show with everyone you know, including your neighbors.

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Let's see what we got here. Shane H. Wilder says, no pithy comment today just want to say go support brett and olivia's derpy cat mocha she ain't doing too hot give send to go slash mocha recovery and have a blessed weekend homies what happened uh she had some imaging done and they found um like a cancerous legion that's uh like a tumor a tumor in her stomach and they have she has to go back in for imaging in a month. So it's just, we love you Mocha. Well, God bless you Mocha. I hope it's all

gone pretty soon. Let's see. Hammerhead says the clown on the culture war today tried the same tactic with Tim and Russia that they did with Trump and the Steele dossier. In both cases, they used the fact that you made a bunch of fact points about the U.S. involvement in Ukraine, Syria, Russia's invasion. And he said, why should I listen to you when you've been accused of taking money from Russia indirectly? And then I said, if that's your attempt to refute fact-based issues in history, like, okay, whatever.

No, it's Saulinsky tactic. Don't debate what you're saying. Just go right after you. That's how they shut you down. This is one of the issues is that half of the political faction in this country doesn't care what's true. They care what's politically expedient. It's all stupid. No, they don't pay any attention to anything true. And I used to be a rabid leftist. I mean, I've said that. I was raised that way. And I remember the fights we used to think up, me and my girlfriends who were rabid leftists. And it's like, doesn't matter what they say. Just go, you know, say like doesn't matter what they say just go you know say it doesn't matter

what you say because you have a little dick and and that was our preparing for debates and stuff like that and you just go after the person you never talk about the substance that's no it matters secondarily yeah the other the other thing is in the internet world if you want attention and you want to be if here's my advice to all the young people want attention and you want to be, here's my advice to all the young people out there. You want to be a famous political commentator? The key is to intentionally debate stupid people. That's a good idea.

This is the way it works. And I mean this with no disrespect. Ben Shapiro got really big when he went on college tours and was debating unlearned college kids. I'm not saying he's wrong for doing it, but it is massively entertaining to conservatives when a young, you know, derpy leftist at a college asks a stupid question and then Ben runs circles around him. It's entertaining. Charlie Kirk does this as well with TPSA. They go to universities and he allows people to come to the microphone.

And these young people don't know what they're talking about. Dean Withers got a lot of attention on Jubilee for gish galloping, I think, Ben Shapiro. And what he does now is he largely just finds random Trump supporters to debate and insult. And like, that's what works. If you have a real conversation with someone trying to understand what they're talking about, that's not really going to do that well. Yeah, I know all about it. Yeah. Yeah. I like I only like to talk to people I think are smarter than me. So it's it's, you know, I mean, here's a different it's a different model. Here's what you do. It is a different model. You start a YouTube channel to learn

something from interviewing somebody. Start a YouTube channel where you're the intelligent conservative and your liberal friend tries to bait you, but they always just lose. Like Harlem Globetrotters. You know what I mean? Yeah. People love that stuff. It's not worth it if you can't make the thumbnail that says destroyed in big letters. Yeah, that has to be part of it.

Henry and Combs. And especially if you're a dumbass who knows nothing about history. And then you pick experts to debate with and then you say oh who cares about international law that's the one that's got me now who really cares about lawyers for international law it doesn't matter about international law doesn't matter about experts for international law. It doesn't matter about international law. It doesn't matter about experts of international law. That one's got me going. I swear to God. You know what I'm talking about, right?

Yeah. We got this from That Place That I Am. Fauci's pardon only protects him from federal charges, so a state could go after him and lock him up. Somebody's got to go after the guy. Well, I think Kansas is going after Pfizer for false advertising. I think that's a case that's really going on, which, you know, they did say it was safe and effective

over and over and over, as did $11 billion worth of bought celebrities. Somebody on Earth who has the capacity should go after Fauci. Right? Somebody. Kash Patel, lock him up. Yeah. Alright. Arsonist YouTube says, today hits my

first week anniversary in the gym. It's not about making huge changes, just one small healthy life change at a time. Go to the gym. Thank you, Phil. Yes, go to the gym. Great. Change somebody's life for the better. That's great. I hate people who go to the gym.

No, that's good. Good for you. Nicholson says, there was a show about a decade ago where humans release a nanotechnology that attacked electricity and anything that uses it. Looks like that's going to be our only salvation.

I gotta find that. Is that Revolution? No, that was 2007. Have you seen Moonfall? The movie? Yes. Really? I gotta see that. The moon starts falling.

But it turns out that the moon is a space base built by ancient humans to create the Earth from scratch because there was a great human expansive galactic civilization that created an AI. And the AI turned on the humans and started killing them. But the AI would do one thing. It would track biological life near electrical systems. So if it was like a dog running around, it wouldn't do anything.

If there was a light switch, it wouldn't do anything. But when biological life claimed close to a source of electricity it would destroy both and so what happens is the AI eventually finds the moon which is a space base and starts destroying it so it starts falling to crash into the earth and then they go

to the moon and save the day he's making this movie sound so much more intelligent than it actually was that's what the movie's about. It sounds good, though. It's largely people running from the moon crashing into the earth. It's the guy who made Independence Day. Oh, really?

Roland Emmerich, yeah. I've never even heard of it. And then the air is getting pulled off the surface of the earth by the gravity of the moon. And they're going... And then they run and jump right as the moon's coming. And they get pulled up by the moon and they jump really far oh man I'm gonna go re-watch that this weekend

guys movies I don't know what about romance movies I bet you've never seen they don't make those anymore well they do they make them for streaming and nobody watches them oh yeah but women just watch Dateline that's how the murder the murder and every time I think like But women just watch Dateline. Yeah, that's true. The murder is all I want.

And every time I think, God, I'm rooting for the killer. It's such a bad move. I just want them to get caught. I love when they get caught. I look at the other way. I say, why would they say that? They're going to get caught. I just saw on that subject, y'all, I just saw the best.

What's his name? Bundy. Oh, my God. I thought I watched everything about Ted Bundy, but no, this was a new one. It's so scary freaky because Bundy was always thinking of himself as smarter than the FBI and all the cops. his thing that would make him feel so smart was that he was like, I'm smarter than all the police. And then this one guy, the guy that finally got him, got him for his teeth, his bites. Oh, yes.

And the guy was trying to get him and gave him apples when he was in the death row there. And somebody goes, how come i never get any fruit and bundy stops cold eating the apple and he's like they're trying to get me with my bite marks anyway it was just so interesting how finally he went oh my god i'm not as smart as this guy. And just like they said, he went nuts and tore his cell all up. It's like somebody is finally smarter than me. And I was like, that's damn good. Because that's a disease of that.

I like when they get caught. I like how they do all this stuff for a really long time and they think they're smarter nobody's gonna get them and then something real little brings them down this is what trump needs to win elections right he didn't he i mean he's not gonna run again but i'm like he just needed to spend money on a true crime series about him like when the court case was happening and like the fraud trial he should have paid for a true crime series that just paints him in a slightly better light and results in people being like

he's innocent they're lying he would come out and be like they're lying they're crooks I didn't do it he tried to do that but they put the slap down on him he couldn't even say that remember they put the gag order on him he would have't even say that. Remember? They put the gag order on him.

He would have done press conferences every single day if he could. Yeah, but they put the gag order. He couldn't even say these are some lying folks. One true crime series. You know how they do those true crime series where it's like the person was falsely convicted? Yeah, I like those two. But it's like there was that one, was it Making a Murderer or whatever? Yeah. Where they tried painting it like the guy was that one, was it Making a Murderer or whatever? Yeah.

Where they tried painting it like the guy was innocent, but then the prosecutor came out and said, like, actually, he's probably guilty. And here's the evidence. Here's why. These people are making a show. They admit they're making a show. They don't care if it's true or not. Trump just needs to make a docuseries about the crimes that omits anything that makes him look bad. And make the prosecutors look bad.

And then all the women are going to be like, he's innocent. Let him go. Well, I think he will do that by the end of his second term. I think there will be great documentaries on what they did to him. Look at everything available. They're making another like actual Hollywood movie about him.

Now that's supposed to paint him in a more favorable light. Really? Remember Mueller? Was it Mueller? She it Mueller she wrote? Mueller she wrote, yeah. It basically made a true crime show that was anti-Trump and women were addicted to it. Yep.

Are you serious? What, covering the Mueller investigation? And then once that ended, they just kept going with hating Trump. Oh, God. Mueller she wrote. It's still in the X account. But how about these people that feel so,

I mean, I feel bad for these people that watch The View and all these shows that all they talk about – it's such toxic hate. That affects your psychology or – like these people, if you ever speak to a true Trump hater, it's very sad. You just think, how could you have so much hate in your house? My favorite is just trolling people. Yeah, well, you're good at it. I tweeted, Trump can't do anything wrong because Trump is the nexus of morality. That means that whether it is good is simply whether or not Trump has done it.

If he does it, it is good. And all these anti-Trump people are like, oh, my God, you're in a cult. I can't believe you said that. Right. I mean, they lose their minds. I love it. I love to troll them. And then I'm just like sitting on my couch with my wife texting and she's looking at me rolling her eyes and I'm like, look, look, I'm sending it.

That's my whole life too. It's great. Oh, yeah. And then I feel bad for the people who are smart enough to get it because they're trying to tell people like, stop, stop it. He's screwing with you. Why don't you understand? And they're like, you're so dumb. Yeah, but these liberal women between like 40 and 60, they are filled. They're so easily triggered when it comes to Trump.

But they don't really know why. I know. That's what I'm saying. Did you see my, where I championed Greta, what's her ass? Thunberg. Thunberg. Thunberg. I said, let Greta in.

I'm trying to. Get her into Gaza. Yeah, she's promoting having Greta go into Gaza. I love how Greta Thunberg is like, the climate is changing and people will die. So now we have to go to Gaza. And it's just like, what? Idiots.

I hope she would. I wish she would go in there and they'd be led around and she could help them all. You have to have a certain understanding of like intersectional politics to understand what the climate has to do with Gaza. Like that's something that like it's like it's it's an idea so stupid only a university professor could come up with it. She's AI, I think. I think she's a complete AI invention of her parents. Or transhuman.

Well, her parents are libtards. She is a libtard. I mean a robot. A robot. Same thing. All right, we'll grab some more. We'll grab some more chats. What do we have here?

Quantum Strange Quark says, remember on this day, June 6th, 1944, how many soldiers died in the beaches of Normandy to protect our freedom? I'm not sure they were protecting our freedom as much as, I don't know. I looked back at World War II and I think we're going to. She thinks that the Germans lost, but the Nazis won. And I have to agree with her. Yeah, I think the Germans. They came to America and they took over the whole Bush fucking.

They were given. I mean, the Bushes were Nazis. I mean, like, yeah, back in the early days when Nazism was was actually normal in the United States. And then after when World War Two World War Two started, they all started backing away. Oh, you know, we don't want to be associated with that. Yeah, but it's not like people just change their worldviews overnight. No. Yeah. Prescott Bush. You know who else was in that family,

the Rothschild banking family of all those criminals? Did you know that Adam, what's his name, the bug-eyed guy, Adam Schiff, did you know it's the Rothschild Schiff family? A lot of people don't know that. I hope that's Schiff. I think it's Lowe and Schiff. Did you know it's the Rothschild Schiff family? A lot of people don't know that. I hope that Schiff... They're the same family. I think it's Lowe Schiff, right? I thought it was Rothschild Schiff. I wouldn't be surprised.

I just... That's one family. Schiff is one of them. I hope that Adam Schiff grew up watching Roseanne so that he can see you say this and just like a single tear comes down his face. I've already called him and what's her AOC. They got the realtor eyes, the big bug-eyed realtor look.

You know, you see them on those bus stops where they're like, hi, need a house? Call this number. They look like that, you know? I don't know. All right, let's go. Punk Rock Fox says, statute of limitations only starts

when you discover the crime and the suspect. If you just discover the crime, it hasn't started yet. Indeed. Is that true? Yes. Oh. Yeah, people...

I thought it had to go back to when you did it. Right, when you committed the crime. Only upon awareness of it. Hmm. Oh, good. Yeah. Well, there's a lot of crimes that could still be found out then.

Good. Yep. Let's see. Kelly McWright says, sorry, I can't believe Cash scapegoated the Epstein case and now throws his outstatement of already deleting his devices. Either Pam, Cash, or both are lying about the 10,000 hours of child porn, and the names are too big to charge. Perhaps. I don't have the sense that they're actually lying. I know that people are going to be bummed about that.

I mean, if you can't trust Cash and Dan, then that's it. You lose because who's better than them? That's why I'm like, I can imagine a scenario where they're not being truthful, but it's because the machine state is impenetrable like if you release this they'll come after your family or if you if you release this it'll destroy the destroy the u.s economy but i largely just think 80 of it is true but how about i mean just to me i just don't understand not going after the white collar crimes then that are connected well i think they probably are yeah they, maybe it's just not over yet. It's not.

And, and they didn't even have enough time yet. And I trust them both very much. But what I believe is that the white collar crimes are going to be the easiest way to go after most of these people. And then from that point, also, I want,

I want like when it comes to like the auto pen, I think we need to know that that doctor that looked at Fauci and all the people that used it. I mean, there's so many layers of what's going on. And then the whole cover up all the way back to 2016. So I think they have a lot on their plates and they're trying to prioritize in a very hostile environment. I agree. I agree. All right. What do we hear?

True Binnen says, what if our government doesn't really control America? Well, there's a big bingo. I think the CIA. I think Ukraine controls America. You do? Yeah. Zelensky flew here and went to Congress. They waved his flag and then gave him hundreds of billions of dollars. Yeah, no, I think. It's the Ukrainians. It's always been the Ukrainians.

Really? Yeah. Global public-private partnership. I think it's a Chinese control everything. I think it's a combination of various foreign interests. I think the Saudis have a lot of control because of the petrodollar. China is the biggest spender on foreign lobbying in the United States, like $460 million, something per year.

Yeah. I mean, I still think that the entire State Department and the CIA and all of them have been involved in the international foreign policy above the government for decades. I mean, they function with the USAID, dark money and all that. It's just Satan. Yeah, I agree. Let's just be real, real. Satan is in charge of everything. And maybe it's almost over.

Smeet Knight says, Roseanne, I grew up with you on the television. I'm grateful for all the laughs. My family and I who watch you every day want to say we love you. Well, I love you back. Thank you, honey. Come see our movie. Yeah.

As far as America. I do get to say it was like the cringiest thing when they brought the show back without you. That makes no sense. And I killed her with a drug overdose. You killed me too. I thought, oh Christ,

they're killing me too. And you have all the characters outside like, oh, well she did get addicted to drugs and you're like, I know.

I was like, oh my God, I can't believe these guys are doing that but they did it. It's a bunch of losers. Well, it sucks

but it's her own dumb fault. Right, right. That's how it was. Let's move on. Couldn't they have done it in a better way? Like I could have ran over some Girl Scouts drunk or something. I thought of the many other ways they could have killed me and left me some dignity. That's the problem.

They could have done that, but they chose not to. I mean, I've got to be honest. They could have not fired you and just kept going with the Roseanne. To be fair, if they did make the story that you were drunk driving and ran over Girl Scouts and went to prison, I would be like, it is bad they fired you, but that is pretty funny. Yeah, it could have been funnier. No, they didn't make it funny at all. They could have.

It's just weird. Right. It's like one day they're like, by the way, she does drugs and she's dead. Right. And then didn't they ask you to come back? Oh, yeah. weird. Right. It's like one day they're like, by the way, she does drugs and she's dead. Right. And that was it. And then didn't they ask you to come back? Oh yeah, they asked me to come back at the end as a ghost.

It's true. I said, wait a minute, you're asking me to come back to the show you stole from me and killed me on and then you want me to come back and play myself as a ghost? I really can't do that. For like a special guest appearance or what?

Yeah. Like for the finale? No, to play a ghost. Because it was losing ratings. To play a ghost all the time. Oh my gosh. Yeah, recurring. Recurring.

That's how... Okay, hold on, hold on. Isn't it? When was that? When was that? That was like the second season. Are they still doing the show? It got canceled last year.

Okay, you should pitch the show to them and say what you want to happen is the Connors have a seance and they bring in a necromancer who brings you back from the dead and they have to sacrifice someone else to do it. Oh, someone in the family has to die. Darlene.

Bye-bye, Darlene. See ya. No. I was just like, I can't believe it. It was a little odd. When that AI thing comes out, I'm making that show. Okay, you've got my blessing on it. Yeah.

Just take her to one of the studios. It was a little odd. And they're all gathered around and be like, we've got my blessing on it. Yeah, just take her to one of the studios. It's a little odd. And they're all gathered around and be like, we need to bring back Roseanne. And the necromancer's like, but one of you has to die. And they all just look at Darlene and they're like, okay. Goodbye. Wow, I can't believe that.

They're like, we shouldn't have fired you. Yeah, we need you to come back as a ghost. As a guest star at 110th shouldn't have fired you. Yeah, we need you to come back as a ghost. As a guest star at 110th year peg when we fired you. Wow. Yeah, but whatever. God fixes stuff up. He better fix this AI quandary, Lord. So was it going to be like you would actually be walking around the house

talking to them as a ghost? I guess that's what they had in their minds. Isn't it kind of weird to turn Roseanne from like a family-based sitcom into a supernatural comedy drama? Yeah, they liked this English show where there was a ghost lady. They wanted me to. Like six feet under? Some show in England where a ghost lives in a house.

Yeah, ghosts. Yeah. It was called Ghosts? Yeah. I was like, the only way I'll come back as a departed, dead person is if I'm a prophet. Yeah.

You know, and I'm like, here. I would also respect if they brought you back, and then you walk on the set, and they go, oh, she's not dead. We were wrong. Oh, yeah. She just took off to Mexico. We just never checked.

You know, I'm doing a new show, and I'll give you one little thing. I have a new show, and there's a bar mitzvah in it, and I'm going to – Roseanne Conner is making an appearance at the bar mitzvah. Oh. Yeah. Well, that'll be hard. making an appearance at the bat mitzvah. Oh. Well, that'll be hard. She must have made it through.

She explains what really happened. Oh, I love it. It's kind of funny. It's going to be great. That's insane. I can't believe that. Well, it's Hollywood. Yeah. Alright, what do we got here? Maybe I can make a thin Roseanne. Well, you are a thin Roseanne. Well, you are a thin Roseanne.

Well, I mean young and thin and gorgeous for the AI Roseanne. Roseanne's long-lost evil twin. Or her clone. Yes. We're getting into soap opera territory. Right. Why not? They wanted to put a ghost on the show.

That's what I'm talking about. I'm here for it. Very Falcon Crest ideas here. Oh, yeah. It really does feel like Hollywood's out of ideas. Oh, yeah. They keep remaking the same stuff. Terrible.

And they're just like, well, the ratings are down. What do we do? Roseanne's a ghost. Ghost Roseanne. Ghost Roseanne. I mean, I think that's because there's no more Coke in the writing room or the executive rooms anymore. See, back when the executives were snorting immense lines of cocaine, the movies were awesome.

Now everything's PC. Everybody's living healthy. They're drinking. The execs are all stressed out. They're all stressed out. They're not doing a bunch of drugs and taking script ideas. Is that why the 70s and 80s were so great? Yes.

Robocop. It's the comics were in there. Awesome. The comedians were in there taking coke and writing. A lot of those comedies 48 hours. I saw some I saw the script that Sam Kinison turned in with all these razor cuts on it.

Booze stains. That was for Rodney Dangerfield back to school or one of them that had these coke lines and shit. That was for Rodney Dangerfield, Back to School, or one of them. They had these Coke lines and shit. What was it? They were just saying that the Popeye movie was the most coked up movie set they'd ever seen. Really? Was it Robin Williams?

Yeah, it was Robin Williams. They said cocaine was being transported into the movie in film reels. I can imagine that. They were all on it. Saturday Night Live was funny back then when they had coke. It's just not the same anymore. I'm up on goofballs.

I bet the Simpsons writers too, like Conan O'Brien in the early days. I bet. Because early Simpsons, season two through now is like a masterpiece. Each season. And now, I don't know, Abe's like a masterpiece. Yeah. Like each season. And now, I don't know,

like Abe's gay or something. I don't watch it anymore because I never know when the fuck it's on or what channel. I can't follow TV. Pretty sure it's always. I can't turn it on.

I got to get my four-year-old granddaughter to turn the TV on for me now. There's no buttons anymore. Yeah. Now it's like you have to look

at a certain part of the TV and wink at it and tell it what to do. You can buy a TV that you can talk to now, I think. Really? We have it. We don't use it anymore. We had one at the last studio, and I think people kind of just were—it was kind of creepy. It's watching you, too, though, right?

Yeah, they're all spying on you. All your stuff is spying on you. The company's like, we're not collecting your data. What is it, the Nest? The thing that does your temperatures? My son said that does spy on you, Mom. Yeah, and Alexa got caught. You know what would be cool, though?

If they just had big red evil eyes on all the devices. That's what they should have. That moves and tracks you as you move around. That would be nicer. Just a reminder. I'm watching you. Exactly. So I will say this. People didn't seem to understand that when you bought those devices, I'm not going to say their name, you would say it's named,

turn it on, and then you would tell it what to do. How do you think it knows when you say its name? It's always on. Oh, that's true. Uh-huh. And it sends your data to a company that translates the sound into text, and then sends

the command to the device. I think they allowed this, though. There was a whole bunch of things that came around in 2013, 2014, where the tech companies meshed with all the different agencies, FBI. There was some kind of thing. So I think that this has been going on a very long time. Think of the thought behind it, though.

How are we going to spy on all these people and everything they do, right? Technocracy. We got phones now. Full surveillance. Well, my friends, it has been, it was very fun. I appreciate having you guys. Everybody else, smash the like button, share the show with everyone you know. You can follow me on

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Roseanne's documentary. It's called Roseanne Bar is America. It'll be everywhere on the 10th of June. And I hope people love it. And I'm excited for people to hear your story. Finally, it's very, very, very eye-opening about not just everything that happened to Roseanne

but Hollywood too. And the press, the crooked friggin' press that made everything into race when it wasn't race at all. But I love y'all and you know, they're never gonna make me shut up. Fuck them. Thank you for

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