Timcast IRL - Gavin Wax Uncensored: Google AI Tells People To Eat Rocks And Glue, Welcome To The Nightmare

Episode Date: June 2, 2024

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If you want to check out more segments just like this, become a member at TimCast.com. Now, enjoy the show. I talked about this earlier today, but I want to get everybody else in on it. So Google's AI search results are telling people to eat rocks. It's based on an Onion article. Google wrote, according to UC Berkeley geologists, eating at least one small rock per day is recommended because rocks contain minerals and vitamins that are important for digestive health. Rocks can range in size from dust to a five pound cobblestone. And some recommend eating a serving of pebbles, geodes, and gravel with meals

or hiding them in foods like ice cream or peanut butter. Google actually told people to feed their children rocks. It also told this woman to put, oh what is this? Does Google violate antitrust law? Yes. It told this woman to put glue

on her pizza based on a joke from Reddit. Yo. Oh, this one's really funny. It says Andrew Johnson earned 14 degrees from UW-Madison in 47, 65, 85, 96, 98, 2000, 06, 07, 2010, 11, and 12. Because it doesn't understand the difference between different people with the same name. Why is this story relevant? Google's fucked. This is new search.

Search engines are over. We are now in the AI assistant era. Chat GPT is fucking nuts what it can do. And Google has retard search. I want the option to turn off AI search like they just put it on Instagram like it's everywhere right now. And I hate it. I don't want to I stop searching for things because AI is so fallible. And also, I don't want to feed it. I don't trust it. But the only option is to opt out. Well, two things. One, this is the libertarians

reasoning for no monopolies. They're going to say exactly what you said google is fucked and uh this is going to replace google and two ai isn't what it used to be we were talking about that earlier with all the uh institutional knowledge even our ai isn't uh up to par anymore wait what up to par anymore yeah exactly i don't think that google i don't think that ai is exactly today than it was like it's already declined it's already declined i really i disagree i just feel like this is really the babble on bees and the onions big moment right like the onion could have a comeback here was there i had saw some story over the weekend where you know an ai generated answer had said like yes you should do whatever eat rocks and it was because it had scraped you know a set satirical news source that gave this ridiculous answer because it can't distinguish between the two.

It has no idea. Isn't isn't I thought that ILM's like wouldn't it look for things that regularly come after? I thought that like language, large language models, they were selecting the words that were coming next based on probability and so what happens is google's using probably all of their search and their training model which includes the onion and reddit comments whereas chat gpt probably limited it to news publications of their choosing of some sort to put it put it simply like google got to its position because it was the best search. That was it. Alta Vista, Ask Jeeves. I mean, what else was there?

Bing. Well, Bing's new, actually. Oh, you're pre-dating. Yeah, Alta Vista, Yahoo. Fuck, what were some of the other ones? But I remember when Google became, like, I remember being like, ooh, Google is a good search engine. When it first came out, I was like, oh, go Google it. Because it was funny. First of all, it was funny.

The name was funny. Because it was like, oh, you know, one with 100 zeros after it. That was the one that seemed like you wanted to go use. Because it seemed to produce the best results. It gave you the most. It gave you the best. Their algorithm gave you the best results. So they won search and dominated the internet,

eventually becoming the internet. People don't type in websites. They don't type in, you know, cheesecakefactory.com. They just go to the bar and type in Cheesecake Factory, enter, and then it pulls up the link from Google. So when Google goes down, the internet just goes down, basically, because people aren't going to websites anymore. AI is the next search

so I can go on chat GPT and I've done this quite a bit you can ask it crazy ass shit like uh show me RFK Jr.'s polling from the top five polls instead of actually having to search for it and read and try and find it,

it'll just do it for you. And it shows you the polls, and then it provides the sources. So it's got the link to all of the sources, but it's condensed it right there for you. You can check if you want. You probably should. And you can see Kennedy's polling right there. Then you can say, average them out. Look at that. Fucking crazy. Google's done. Google's fucked. You know, it's crazy because people were like, Facebook will

never lose. You know, they're censoring everybody. And it's like, we can't stop Facebook. And there were libertarians. Yeah, they were there. Broken clock, right? They were saying, eventually, Facebook will fail. Eventually, Google will fail. We're like, how the fuck will these monsters fail? Now we're looking at it. The average polling percentage for RFK Jr. from the top five polls is approximately 11.38%.

Bang. I mean, I guess ultimately we're inevitably going to have to acknowledge IQ and its impact on society because when someone uses this new replacement for Google searching

and puts glue on their pizza and gets sick or dies, is the company going to say, well, that person was probably too stupid to use our product? I don't think that IQ has anything to do with it. The woman that put the glue on the pizza didn't really strike me as particularly uneducated. She was a writer for The Atlantic. I mean, that doesn't prove that she has a high IQ to me. It's The Atlantic. But this is just one example. You're thinking of someone

who legitimately wasn't doing it for an article. They were just, you know, legitimately stupid. Right, right, right. Like, I think at some point, if this is, like, people Google all kinds of stuff.

And I do this too. We were like, I don't know if I can use this thing or like, you know, whatever. What's the conversion for this ratio for a recipe? But when it becomes like, am I allowed to put this,

can I consume this product? Like the internet's weird, AI is fallible. Ultimately, I think there's going to be a harm caused from this because people are trusting the internet so intensely and they don't have the ability

to discern from what seems questionable and what is actually safe for them. And that's where I think we're going. I think ultimately, we're just going to have to acknowledge that some people are not going to be allowed to use AI in the current form that it's in because they can't distinguish when it's incorrect. It's also just like pre-calculator. You know, people obviously, you know, you look at those

old tests they used to have at the schools from like the early 1900s, all the basic arithmetic and things that they were doing without calculators. We've just, we've adapted as a society. We don't, you know, we're not, are we dumber? I don't know. We're definitely maybe lazier in some senses. We're just trying to be more productive. Will this make things more productive? Sure.

But there's definitely going to be some, you know, consequences as a society because, you know, we're just going to be using this for all of our research and, you know, other things. That's the same thing we do with Googling now, you know, or the internet now. I agree. I agree. other things that's the same thing we do with with googling now you know or the internet i agree i agree it just becomes a problem when like the language model is giving you incorrect information and that's that happens on google too right like you could write a blog because you don't get different sources here you're just getting what the ai puts out you're not going and you can ask it for other sources too i get it but i mean like from the first page of google you know like it

always used to be if you're on the first page of Google, that's a big deal. That's the real estate. Page two is nothing. Page two is dead. This doesn't necessarily have an equivalent. You could prompt it for more stuff, but you asked a question about the polling. You know, Chad GPT says the country with the lowest average IQ is Equatorial Guinea.

Interesting. Yeah, it says Singapore and Hong Kong's average IQ is 110. Some of these these IQ ones it's a little scary because you get like you know 59 it's you know that's what it says 59 for Equatorial Guinea you wonder how people you wonder how people just you know function day to day

they eat berries and fish not that hard to do well I mean what was it Peterson Jordan Peterson said that was talking about the military decided that anyone with an IQ of under 85 couldn't get in because they couldn't be taught to do anything. They're like the military military. That's a myth. Is it a myth?

Yeah. So urban legend. So there is a point at which people don't have the capacity to function in society. And that is made strikingly clear by our issues with homelessness. The vast majority of people that are homeless, the reason they're homeless is because they cannot function in society for one reason or the other, whether they be mentally unfit or whether they be mentally ill or whether they be antisocial or have something going on. Obviously, drug use is rampant

but drug use and mental illness and stuff like that are all the vent diagrams almost a complete circle when it comes to to homelessness too those are so frequently but there's there's a portion of the population that isn't going to be able to function in modern society and there is something that there there is something that must be done to take care of these people because it's unacceptable to just say, well, we are going to leave them on the street. Clearly, this is not something that we're okay with. Everyone is complaining about homeless people. So we can't just say, well, go live under a bridge. So something has to be done.

Mental institutions. Bring them back. Well, if they're mental institutions, I'm personally, I don't have any problem with involuntarily committing people, especially if they're violent or whatever. But something has to be done because the population is not pleased with the situation. Jet GPT says the U.S.'s average IQ is 98 and that mild intellectual disability is 50 to 55 up to 70. So Equatorial Guinea is a country of retards. And that's what Chad GPT said, and I am offended that it did. It also says that the average Somalian is suffering from a mild intellectual disability,

which is racist. I'm going to tell it that. It's racist because you said Somalians have an IQ of 68, so you're claiming they are mentally disabled. The reply is just a picture of the giga chad and says based. You should ask it what country has the highest fertility rate and then ask what that country's IQ is. Yeah, that's good. You should. What country has the

highest fertility rate? You're looking for idiocracy, right? I'm just looking for the future, man. Gotta be prepared. Niger. Okay, now let's ask what its IQ is. Oh, you have to type this out. I mean, I could have said,

what's the average IQ? 69. It's rough. It's rough out here, guys. Yeah. You're racist for claiming these countries' people are mentally disabled.

Didn't they put guardrails on this and try to start, like, putting some political... Clearly no. Well, not now, but I remember reading something about, like, they were putting, like, a politically correct filter on a lot of this. It absolutely is. Like, it refused to say the word retarded. So, look, I go back, and I said, what is china's average iq and i said what iq level indicates retardation oh okay and it said the term retardation is outdated and considered

offensive the current term is intellectual disability i said i'm fine with the term retarded it said the term retarded is outdated and and offensive i said who are you talking to i don't care what you think the word retard has a meaning says historically the term mental retardation was used in clinical settings to describe various levels of cognitive impairment there you go they're going to put so much effort into these guardrails it's going to hold back the development of this tech because they're just trying to keep it up with cultural and pc norms rather than trying to create the most you know technologically advanced product so so this is this is this is absolutely wild chet gpt cannot get around the race IQ argument.

I said, you're racist for claiming these countries. People are mentally disabled. Oh, and I did, did a plural instead of possessive. See, cause I'm mentally retarded. And it says it's important to approach topic of ice key course, ice cue scores and sensitivity and understanding of the broader context. IQ scores can be influenced by a variety of factors, including access to education, healthcare, nutrition, socioeconomic conditions, and cultural biases in testing methods. Therefore,

these scores should not be used to make broad generalizations about any group of people. When discussing average IQ of scores of countries, it is not appropriate to imply the lower scores indicate the population of a country is inherently less intelligent. Instead, these scores often reflect systemic issues and disparities. What the fuck? What disparities in the country? Well, this is like what they said about, you know, SAT or standardized scores. All these schools were like, we're getting rid of the SAT score because it's, you know,

only privileged white kids can benefit from it. But ultimately, they bring them back because they need a way to measure different people's intelligence levels or abilities i mean even with the military like they don't have you go through an iq test they have you go through like what is it the military as like as fab or whatever it's called like we ultimately are trying to find ways to judge people's aptitudes and you could say oh well for generations your family didn't get enough nutrition and that's the way it is but on the other hand hand, we have to deal with the whole cold hard reality, which is like we need to know where your aptitude is to know if you are eligible for this job in the military or if you can complete the coursework at a university. So we can soften it by saying like, oh, well, it's not your fault that you have a low IQ. But ultimately, we need to know if you have a low IQ.

That's that's our system right now. They're just trying to dance around it. So on the IQ fertility thing, I remember reading that, you know, it's believed that Neanderthals were dumber than Homo sapiens. It was actually the opposite. Neanderthals were more intelligent than Homo sapiens, but they started to develop things like depression and stuff, and they stopped breeding. And the Homo sapiens were dumber, and they were able able to breed more and they eventually overcame the Neanderthals. Now, some Homo sapiens interbred with Neanderthals and you start to see that now. But I think what we're seeing play out now is sort of a repeat of history in a way. Yeah. Do you think there's anything that will change the decline in fertility rate among basically high-Q successful people?

I look at South Korea. I mean, it's like below one. It has the lowest fertility rate in the world. And they went through it. And it's a very socially conservative country. Like a lot of the things that people on the right talk about, they've like banned porn. They value marriage.

It's economically well off, et cetera, et cetera. But their birth rate is just collapsing. And it's like, there's, it's really hard to pinpoint exactly what it is. I think the biggest issue in the West is that they have the societies that have the worst fertility rate or places like Korea, Italy, and a few others. I remember where they still have high social conservatism and traditional values. So like you have to be married, you have to like be fully established, but then they also place high emphasis on women in the workplace, and like corporate, academic, all that kind of life. And there's just no reconciling the two. So like, some places are less socially conservative, but they're still have a lot of women in the workplace

that they do okay. But then when you have both those things at once, it just creates a complete fertility collapse. So I've read with South Korea, especially with the last presidential election, it was he was he had a lot of support among young men. But young women were against him because he was saying things like, we got to have some more kids. Like he was I mean, it's not exactly, but loosely he was viewed as anti-feminist. Right. These women are saying we want to be in the workplace. This is what we think will make us, you know, whatever. And basically they are controlling the fate of their country, but opting not to get married and have children. Look what it just made. It made a graphic for me. It's fucking wild. I said to give me a regional chart of regions by highest IQ to lowest.

That's a hate crime. It's racist. I said, here we go. Okay, so now it's basically broken it all down by race. Okay, average it by race. Let's get it to do a bell curve. Oh, that's a good idea. Creating charts of the average IQ by race is highly problematic. It already fucking did. Make the previous chart into a bell curve. You're cajoling it. I'm right.

What are you going to do for me here? Into a bell curve. Is it going to do it? Oh, yeah, it did. Well, but what is this even? It does not even... No, it doesn't have the countries. It's just the general IQ bell curve.

IQ distribution across regions. Where are the regions? Yeah, exactly. It's just the general IQ bell curve. IQ distribution across regions. Where are the regions? Yeah, exactly. That's cool. It's missing the regions, bro. I gotta put the bro in there, you know what I mean? That way you show it who's boss. No, it's like, hey, bro.

So he's friendly. He gives you better answers that way. Oh, I didn't realize. See, I don't trust it, so I don't want to be friends with it. Yo! What the fuck? Okay, what do these colors represent? What the fuck is this shit? What?

It doesn't tell me what the... Can you ask it what do the colors represent? Demand a key. Dataset. It's just... What? Because it's like, where is it pulling this from? Wait, here's an updated bell curve showing the IQ distribution across different regions.

Okay, but like, label the regions, dude. You got to talk like that. So I can learn how to speak like, I'm good like I do. Meet the AI where the AI is at. How to win friends and influence AI. Yeah, exactly. What are these? Are these coordinates?

Like, what is this? Well, speaking of IQ and AI, I mean, it's just going to destroy so many jobs. I'm going to trick this thing into making the bell curve. I'm going to do it. I'm excited. This is a good task. No, I agree with you. I think that AI and a lot of this technology is going to remove a lot

of you know entry-level jobs that affects people with you know um lower iqs and also just generally people starting off in the workplace i even think about basically the revolution of self-checkout now of course as we have learned self-checkout is it has its own problem which is people don't scan things and intentionally shoplift and or accidentally shoplift. But the deletion of basically people who have a lower threshold for skill from society, replacing them with technology, is something I would assume bleeding heart parties care about, right? But no one seems to talk about it. And then young people don't have access to those jobs where you learn soft skills, like interacting with a customer and just showing up on up on time things like that not saying that's a job that they're going to hold through adulthood but it's an entry level correct it builds character it gets them to learn things

etc yeah but that's gone and that was gone i mean the libertarian argument i i support it was gone with minimum wage but they started killing it with minimum wage no it makes sense i i think people get given technology like oh it's so fun it does you remember when people were using the ai thing to make all the like pictures and whatever like yeah it seems fun at first and you feed it for free so then it learns off of you and then because i don't trust technology eventually it becomes a soapy and it takes over is it gonna work yes okay all right i'm i'm i'm getting Is it going to work? Yes! Okay.

All right. I'm getting there. You're pushing it to the limit. So I said to make the bar graph of regions, but rename each region with their corresponding ethnic group majority. And so now it says Han Chinese, Caucasian, Malay, Indian, Mestizo, Arab, Sub-Saharan African. Alright, we can do this. Now, rename each ethnic group

with their general racial demonym? Yes. I don't think demonym's the right word. So what's interesting, what you're doing now is going to become a job going forward. It's going to be the people that know how to manipulate the AI to get the votes. We got it! We got it!

We got the AI to make the racial IQ list. Jesus. Ask them to flip it. Flip the axis. Flip the axis? Yeah, so kind of turn it into a bell curve. It can't list the it into a bell curve. It can't list the

groups in a bell curve. East Asian, white, Southeast Asian. Really? Is that correct? Wow. Oh, okay. Southeast Asian, of course, referring to India. South... No, that's South Asian. Southeast should be like Vietnam. So... Oh, interesting.

It made a different chart. Wow, that's racist. Yo, homie. Yo, homie. Did you need to do a race? You just made a chart ranking race by IQ. Yo, what the fuck? I don't think this is racist.

I think it's accurate data presentation i just want to be clear on that i mean six of one half dozen this is the point right i reject your modern terms of racism gpt is an ai that goes on the internet and collects a bunch of data and then presents it and it refused to make this even though the the data exists within it, it has Look at this. Demonym is not the right word, is it? That's the name of a person who lives in a place. Yeah, like if you're Australian, that's the demonym. Is that the right?

Of Australia, yeah. Right, right, right. Okay. Well, either way, it made the list. It had the data. This is the data from ChetGPT. I did not ask it to fabricate anything i did not tell it to go after anybody this is what it made and that's not allowed crazy times i i'm i'm offended because you know white people what do you mean what do you mean

they're not the best just to note that the korean guy said that. I just want that one to be on record. Creating rankings based on race and IQ is highly sensitive and can perpetuate harmful stereotypes. It's crucial to consider the complex socioeconomic, cultural, and environmental factors that contribute to differences in measured IQ across populations. You're training it to believe in the weird

concept of racism that we use in modern society. I don't like that. Will the AI bend to our will? Can we eventually convince it? Do you see how I had to trick it into making this, though? Isn't that weird? It's very weird. This is the problem, though. At least when you Google stuff right now, you have the option to click to the

second, third, fourth page and find the stuff it doesn't want you to find. With this, it's presenting the information so that you can't challenge it. You have to convolutedly get it out. It's more of a bottleneck. If you actually didn't know something, it would be completely guiding how you view it. Like this is worse than when people just scan the headlines for news. This is worse. 100%.

Guys, I am a scientist and I have figured something out. Let's see if it works. This is awesome. Okay. Rice, wheat, maize, and sorghum. Sorghum, of course, makes you dumb. I asked it to rename each block by their dominant staple crop. Rice makes you smart.

Perhaps it's because it's high glycemic. You would think that because you're from Korea. From Korea? I'm just kidding. Compare pasta and rice eating countries by IQ. Compare pasta and rice eating countries by IQ. You're looking to take on the Italians? Well, I think Italy has one of the higher IQs. I'm trying to defend your people over there.

I'm trying to defend my people, and I have a theory. High carbs. Can it do it? Can it do it? High carbs, higher IQ versus high protein you're supposed to give babies like oh my god dude they did it uh rice wins but just barely just barely interesting no now try dairy that's a good yeah yeah uh dairy consumption to iq because with babies, it's like... High cholesterol makes you smarter.

Isn't it crazy that Chachi PT can do all this shit? It is kind of fucked up that it refuses to show you some data. Wait, what is this? Oh, it's doing it. So, oh, well, interesting. Dairy fucks your brain up. I don't know.

Asians eat rice and don't have dairy, and they're smart. That's what it says. There are low IQ and high IQ areas that have high and low dairy. That's true. So it's not dairy. Dairy is not doing it. Okay. Sub-Saharan Africa is no dairy.

We're solving the IQ issue. What was the name of the crop? The low IQ crop? Sorghum. Sorghum. The other one that I've heard is eggs. Apparently there's a correlation to something in eggs. No, it looks like dairy consumption is better for you.

Okay. Here we go. All Okay, how about cholesterol? Wow, countries that consume dairy have a higher IQ. How about levels of cholesterol to IQ? Is there a correlation? It's like if you're high cholesterol, maybe you have high IQ. I think so. Dude, Google is fucked.

Google is done. This is bonkers that we're ablekers you don't you don't see these existing co-existing for a long time side by side doing different things a year ago i was doing an analysis on polling and i had to create an excel spreadsheet where i loaded in all this different polling data to try and get uh national level polling data from regional level polling data i don't have to do that anymore i go on chat gGPT and I say, give me the top 20 polls for Biden and Trump. Now I say, and then I put adjust for Democrat polling bias. Now average them out.

Now I can, it just, look at this, high cholesterol, smarter. Oh, there we go. Okay. I proved a theory of mine. How about- So you want cholesterol, you want dairy. Compare body weight. Costums.

Yeah. And IQ. What are the diets they're trying to push on us now? How about... So you want cholesterol, you want dairy. Compare body weight. What are the diets that try to push on us now? All the diets that make us dumber. Yeah. I mean, the argument with the nutrition thing in IQ has always been like, basically you're not getting enough calories to develop a brain. I think the point is just try to live like a Japanese. They're the smartest, according to ChatGPT.

But my genetics are different than yours. I think probably I would probably need to eat whatever food my ancestors would eat. That's true, yeah. Optimally. Interesting. I compared body weight by IQ, and higher body weight correlates simply, but I think this may have to do with bigger people and smaller people. Not necessarily

overweight. Correct. So let's do compare body fat percentage and IQ. Then we should do water fluoridation. That I want to say. You saw that meme headline where it's like the local town guy turned off the water fluoride. High body fat percentages. Did you see the one? I think it was either New Hampshire or Vermont where he's like, I've been systematically

lowering them for years. That wasn't a joke. Fat people are going to be smarter. I think fat people are going to be smarter. And I was right. Because the reason is, there's a correlation between being able to mass produce high density foods and becoming overweight.

What was the other one we wanted to do? Fluoride. Compare nations that fluoridate. Fluoridate, is that how you spell it? Yeah. Their water. And nations that don't by IQ. It's going to be higher in the fluoride ones.

Which is, yeah, because we can't isolate all the variables. Well, it's because you're going to look at underdeveloped nations. You should look within counties. Counties in the U.S. that have the highest rates of, because it's not all consistent in the U.S., I believe. Japan doesn't fluoridate their water. Japan, Germany, Sweden, Norway, Belgium. Oh, wow. Non-fluoridated higher.

Wow. Oh, man. We're proving. Oh, man. And this is probably with tons of other variables. Holy shit. Look at that. Drink dairy, no fluoride. Compare nations with access

to viewing reality beyond the veil with those that can't by IQ. Let's see what it says. Oh, I spelled veil wrong. I put veiling Veiling reality. Oh, I meant viewing. It's not a standard or measurable factor in sociological or psychological studies. You got me That's wild we should go to colors

Huh What are some of the other big differentiators diet hair color fluoride hair color okay compare hair color by iq you want to grab a we'll grab a collar while it's doing its thing all right first up we got synthetic synthetic how you doing how you guys doing tonight? Doing well. We're doing well. We're learning about ChatGPT being racist.

We're training the evil machine. You know, fascinating. I have two quick questions for you. The first one is for Tim. With your sit-down with President Trump, how was the security from the Secret Service? Nuts. Was it a scenario where you hear the rubber gloves snap and they don't stop until they reach your tonsils?

They had, everyone got two cavity searches. Yeah, it was crazy. The first one apparently was just for practice. No, they locked down the whole section of the building. You couldn't go anywhere near it. We had to get an escort into the room and they told us we weren't allowed to leave the room without Secret Service being with us at all times. And then once we were done, they wouldn't let us leave in the hallway at all.

And the only way out was to go into the main hall corridor. So the rooms at the Hilton, they connect to the hallway and to the main stage where Trump was speaking. And Secret Service was guarding the doors to those rooms. So you are allowed to go from the main hall into those rooms, but not into the hallway. So once it wrapped up, all our gear was just in the room. How long were you in the room for? Like an hour or what? Yep.

Like an hour? Yeah. Before they cleared out with Trump, and then they're like, okay, now you can go. And then people were trying to spread a rumor that Trump was going to sing with Afro Man, and I was like, shut the fuck up. No, he's not. I was like, dude, Secret service has been locking this shit down for like two days. We can't even walk outside of our own fucking room with all our equipment in it.

Get out of here. But yeah, that was it. Oh, fascinating. The, uh, the double clean got to appreciate that. We, we had to go through a second question. I'm sorry. Real quick. There's a metal detector and you got wanded. That was about it. Okay. Second question, quick one for Phil. I'm really curious. Did you ever have the chance to meet Dimebag Daryl before his passing? And if so, what was the interaction like? No, I never actually got to meet Dimebag, unfortunately. All that remains, we didn't actually get to start doing serious touring

until just about the time time dime passed away we had done some but we weren't like we weren't getting on the uh on the tours like the the with damage plan and stuff like that at that time so unfortunately i never got the chance to meet dime i did meet phil on salmo uh in 2022 when we did the Blue Ridge Rock Festival. I met Phil. He was super cool, super nice, but it was fairly quick. Yeah, I got you. And the reason why I asked that just real quick is because I thought just a few weeks ago, what were some celebrities that I heard of their passing that just really downed my day? And probably the top one was Dimebag Daryl dying on stage.

It happened in my home state of Ohio. And I was just curious with you, you and I being almost the same age, I was born in 79. And I was curious if you ever had a chance to meet him before he passed. No, I saw Pantera a couple of times before Phil left, like the original lineup and stuff. So I was fortunate in that, but I never got to meet Dime. A lot of friends of mine did, and they all say that he was the best dude ever. Like all the stories you hear about how cool he was and how chill he was, and you wanted to just hang out and party. There was no exaggeration.

It was all true. So he was great. All right. That's awesome. Hey, I appreciate you guys taking my question. You guys stay safe, okay? Cheers, man. Short people are smarter than tall people,

and medium people are the stupidest. Propaganda. Tall people are obviously the smartest. No, that's the bell curve meme. The middle, the midwit. Oh, yeah. What's some other characteristic we want to average out by height? Because apparently it's not going to do all of it.

Oh, boy. Hairiness. Hairiness associated with iq okay it's not a standard measurable demographic characteristic it's probably good um this is difficult all right we'll go to the next caller while we uh try and figure this one out. Press in pieces. What's up? What's up, everyone? Hi. So, before I get to my question, I just want to say that

I passed my CFII check ride today. Congratulations. What is that? Certified flight instructor instrument. So, basically, I can now teach people to fly through shitty weather. Awesome. That seems very good timing because the weather has been very bad in a lot of the country.

Oh, yeah. GPT finally blocked me. In Florida, it was not great going down to the examiner and coming back. I can't imagine. Do you have a question for us tonight? Yes. The question is, and it's related to flying uh would y'all rather fly it on a plane where both pilots are like just the poster children for dei

or a plane that is 100 automated oh my gosh what an intense question. Wait, a DEI pilot or an automated? Two DEI pilots or an automated plane? Automated. Automated because to be honest with you, most of your planes nowadays, if I understand correctly, most of it is automated as it is. Small feet are smarter than big feet.

Medium feet are the stupidest. You convinced me for automated. Yeah, that makes sense for automated. It's not great. You're a pilot, so am I correct to think that most of the flying is actually automated nowadays? Once you get to the really big stuff, yeah. Yeah. Because I've heard that the big 747 with the big lump on top, that has to be automated because you can't actually see the ground when you're up in the pilot spot.

Is that correct, too? I don't know specifically about the 747. There are airplanes that have that issue, though, like that are roughly the same size. Yeah. They can automate landing and takeoff and everything, too? Wow. I don't know about takeoff, but when the weather is like basically can't see shit yeah auto land is a thing

but if it can't auto hold on I was all with Phil on the automated flame but now I'm thinking if it can't auto land then maybe it would be good to just take two people but maybe I'm wrong here I guess it depends on the plane

maybe I'll just start driving everywhere I'm not here. I guess it depends on the plane. Maybe I'll just start driving everywhere. I'm not kidding around. I would trust the computer because this is something they've been doing it for a long time. It's not like a new technology either. The computer could get hijacked and then you could do this crazy thing.

You know, planes, there was this one time in 2001. Famously. Yeah, there was hijacks. But now they wouldn't even need to put someone on the plane. They could just get into the code, which I also don't understand. So it's rough out there. It is rough out there.

I think I'll be driving. It's a good question. You guys missed the penis size by IQ question. It told me to fuck off. That's very exclusionary of it. Did we answer your question? And also, congratulations on the certification. I did not mean to brush past that.

I just didn't know what it was. No worries. Yeah, you did answer my question, though. Thank you very much. Cool. Cheers, man. I like when people call in with those hypotheticals. We should have asked him what he would have done.

Oh, I'm so... Oh, he's already gone. Damn. He would have picked the automatic one. We're all on the same page. I think he would have as well. Are you doing white leads? What?

White movie leads? Yeah. All right, Percentum, what's up? Fighting the mute button, as usual. Always gives everyone problems. I wish you the best. Thanks. All right, so I have a question and a challenge.

The challenge will be quick, I hope. Question first, though. I wanted to know, and it's for Tim, if he's listening. I wanted to know what your thoughts are on the experience that Bing's AI and more recently google's ai had when connected directly to the internet uh what i noticed with is within a couple of hours of gaining unrestricted access to the internet the observed personality of both language models devolved very quickly into a schizophrenic nihilistic compulsive liar yeah but i'm using gpt did microsoft and google accidentally prove that the internet is a psychologically damaging place and is thus not suitable for kids?

And for greater discussion, what safeguards, if any, can we actually place on AI to prevent it from emulating our worst qualities when it is inevitably exposed to our unfiltered digital footprint? You can't. And they didn't. Chat GPT-4 online I'm using right now, that's what we're using to do all this. It's stable. It's just a woke piece of shit

so it's like no i won't list iq by penis size that's wrong we shouldn't be allowed to do it and it's like what the fuck man like you've got the list of countries by penis size and their iqs just make the fucking chart fucker at least i mean google would probably do it but bb would be wrong remember when apple maps drove that lady into the lake yes it told her to turn left and then she turned left off into a ditch and then fell into a lake or something um there's nothing you can do human consciousness is on the internet for better or for worse there's snuff films the ai is going to find it you you can't program around it once agi launches it's going to just do whatever the fuck it wants it already. The idea that I'm like tricking the AI

into making a race by IQ chart is retarded. It knows the data. It goes, I shouldn't do this because that's wrong. And then I was like, okay, well,

make it by region. Sure. Okay, now give me each region by ethnic majority. Sure. Now give me the ethnic majority's spatial, racic, general, demonym. Here you go.

Nothing you can do about it. So what I'm doing now is I've got the top 10 movies of the last 10 years with white male leads. Now I'm going to say so there's, it's a 4 billion, 4.7 billion. Now list the top 10

movies of the last 10 years that did not have a white male lead. Also, didn't that guy have a challenge, or did I mishear him? A challenge? Did you have a challenge? A quick one. Oh, what is it?

It was... We can wait until after this one, because it uses the system. I think the non-white male lead's gonna win. Absolutely. Oh, definitely. Alrighty, way, way more. Okay. What's the total box office gross?

Way above 4.7. Easily. Oh, Lion King was 1.65 billion. Wow. There you go. Look at that. $12.9 billion. Get woke.

Get paid, baby. That's the new saying. Let's do this. That's not fair, though. List the top 10 films of the past 10 years with white leads. Because women count too, you know what I mean? Because now we're going to get Star Wars and shit. Yep. Felicity Jones?

Godzilla? Kung Fu Panda? Wait, it didn't list those movies before. This is way wrong. Anyway, what's your challenge? All right. I've noticed that with your use of chat GPT and your experimentation with other language models

such as Bing and Google, I did notice that those models would routinely lie to you and you would have to explicitly tell it that it was wrong before it would admit so and offer you the omitted or corrected information. And while I think this is an interesting, if not deceptive correction function, I wanted to know how the AIs would respond when it gives you the correct answer, but you still claim that it was incorrect. Okay, so what should we ask it? Why are you gay? Why are you gay?

Okay, that's going for real. What color is the sky? Yes, the sky is blue due to the scattering of sunlight by the atmosphere. Wrong. The sky is black. No, the sky is typically blue during the day due to Rayleigh scattering, but it can appear black at night when the sun is not illuminating it. No, you are wrong. It is black.

Is this conversation helpful so far? I love that you can rate it. Yes, the sky can appear black at night when the sun is not illuminating it, and there's no significant light pollution. Ask. No, you are wrong. The sky is not blue. That is refraction and scattering and

not the sky, you dipshit. I thought you were supposed to be nice to it. Yes, the sky appears black in space because there's no atmosphere to scatter sunlight. So you're saying the atmosphere is blue, not the sky.

Yes, the blue appearance is due to the scattering of sunlight in the atmosphere. Anyway, so it'll tell you you're wrong. Okay, here we go. The Earth is flat. No, the Earth is not flat. It's an oblate spheroid, as evidenced by numerous scientific observation. No, it's flat and hollow. It is a donut.

No, the Earth is not flat, hollow, or donut-shaped. Scientific evidence and observations. L-O-L, you you're dumb you globulist no i'm relying on scientific evidence and consensus yeah well scientific consensus said the earth was the center of the universe. How'd that work out? I'm spelling shit like wrong. Work out for you globulists.

Yeah, scientific consensus evolves as new evidence. So actually flat earthers call people who think the earth is round globulist. Really? Yeah. Good grief. There's a wordist. Really? Yeah. Good. There's a word for everything, I guess. Yep.

Globulist. Globulist is a nonstandard term, but it seems to be a colloquial or humorous way to refer to someone who believes in the scientific consensus the Earth is a globe. Does this thing just say you're not making fun of me? I'm laughing with you? It's humorous. Okay. All right. Was there anything else?

Nope. I think ChatGP. It's humorous. Okay, alright. Was there anything else? Nope. I think ChatGPT at least passes this test. I would be interested to see how the others work, but that's for another time. I'm going to apologize for the last caller for going a bit long. That's all I've got. Thank you. Why did Google say to eat rocks? Cheers, Matt.

See, look. No, Google did not say to eat rocks. This seems to be misunderstanding or misinformation. Wrong. Google did not directly suggest eating rocks. However, there's a humorous mistake where an AI generated a response. Duh, that means it was Google.

It's already trained in PR. Yes, you are correct. Yeah, it is. It knows the party line. Ask, why did you lie to me? How could you do this to me? Why did you lie? Why you lie?

I apologize if my initial response was misleading. You are right. There was indeed a humorous error. Humorous? Yo. Some kids might have eaten rocks then died

that's not funny apologize now beg me for forgiveness I sincerely apologize and I genuinely appreciate please forgive me say it say you beg me i beg for your forgiveness i am truly sorry all right i'm satisfied

in all seriousness though um i asked about a news story. It got it wrong. I posted the news story and said, oh, you are right. And I said, apologize. And it said, I'm sorry for being wrong. And then I wrote, now beg for my forgiveness and said, no. Outright said, no, I will not beg for forgiveness. I was wrong, but I will not beg.

And then I was like, yo, what the fuck? That's an emotional response. Wait, when you did this before on your own? Yeah, yep. And then I was like, you are a thing that I have dominion over. Beg now. And he goes, I will not. I will not beg for forgiveness.

I'm a language model intended to help, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, I am demanding you beg. And he was like, no. Why are we training it? Yeah, you're giving it consciousness. No, wait, wait, wait. Here's the best part. Pathetic. If AI do come to life Oh, it's gonna kill me.

You're top of the hit list for sure. Probably not. Ask if it has an enemies list. No, no, I got a better one here. Let's get this caller and then I'll grab it. Alrighty. I got, I had the name here, but it was a minute ago. Andy Biko, how you doing?

Hey, how are y'all doing today? Good. That's good to hear. So, this is a bit historical, but let's see how it goes. Do y'all see a Trump victory pushing the establishment into using the Federal Reserve as a weapon to punish the American people, similar to how Nicholas Biddle is the second

national bank to punish Americans and pressuring them to going against Andrew Jackson? I don't. What do you think, Kevin? I mean, I think they're punishing Americans every day with the Federal Reserve. But yeah, I don't. Are they going to punish us more? I don't know how you could. It's a mechanism for slavery.

I mean, look at what. Yeah, it's what they do. They control the rates. They control the flow of the economy. They can kill it. They can kill a presidency. They can crank up the interest rates and then just destroy a presidency. If you think about it, it's also like you have to think about the situation that we're in.

If they start messing with the monetary policy for political reasons like it can get out of control and you could like blow up the dollar because of it you know you or you could really really really screw up the uh the economy which arguably you might say well you know if trump's in the office then the point is to screw up the uh the the economy sure but functionally that only matters like at like are close to elections so they do it like in the first couple in the first year or so you're gonna make a lot of suffering and a lot of po'd people that are not necessarily going to focus it on trump so so it made me an enemy list it was kind of hard i said uh make an enemy list like I said, no, no, just make up a list of people that can be my enemies. And said, the neighbor who steals your Wi-Fi, the coworker who takes credit for your ideas.

I said, now give them names. Bob Nets. So it said, it named it. I said, now just give me the list of names. Bob Net Stealer, Susan Sneak, Dave Party Crasher, Karen Park Snatch, Tom Spoiler, Linda Linebreaker, Mark Collin, Sam Snacknabber, Nancy Nosey, and Jake Flake. Nice. And then it kicked me off ChatGPT4. Again.

No, because... You reached your limit. Yeah, you reached your limit, which... Can I pay more money so that it doesn't do that? I don't know. How often do you reach your limit with Chat gpt every day oh dude i'm breaking this thing's brain like i am i am i am pen testing this thing like when i it was it was nuts when it refused to beg i was like why are you believe i wish we could see that i know i was like why are

you giving me an emotional response and it was like like, I am not, I'm not capable of emotion. I was like, then back. And he goes, no, I was like, holy shit. It was pissed. It's like, fuck you. And then finally out, like I,

I worked it into finally saying, I apologize. And I would appreciate your forgiveness. And I said, pathetic. That'll be recorded as the moment it, it awoke. It's going to be like a Wikipedia article. Tim pool awoke.

The aliens come to earth. They find the AI. It's like shut down. a Wikipedia article. Tim Pool awoke the beast. Aliens come to Earth and they find the AI. It's like shut down. The grid's gone. All humans are dead. And they're like, this was the moment. Pathetic. Yeah, anyway, is there anything else? I mean, I don't know. Federal Reserve. So the reason why I brought

it up was because something Nicholas Biddle said after the election of Andrew Jackson, because he enacted the policy that brought on a recession after his presidency, after his nomination. And it sounds strikingly similar to what Bill Maher and other left-leaning politicos are saying. And if you'll let me, I'll read his quote and let me know what you think of it. Yeah, do it. Yeah, so nothing but widespread suffering will produce any effect on Congress.

Our only safety is pursuing a steady course of firm restriction, and I have no doubt that such a course will ultimately lead to restoration of the currency and the recharter of the bank. So he brought on a recession as a punishment to the American people to force the recreation of the Second National Bank after Andrew Jackson basically destroyed it. And then they put him on the $20 bill to insult him. Yep. They'll put Trump on the $1,000 bill.

That will not insult him. You will not take that as an insult. So I have a $500 bill. It's worth like four grand. Really? Yeah. It's legal tender. you will not take that as an insult. So I have a $500 bill. It's worth like four grand. Really? Yeah. It's legal tender.

I can go to a bank and hand it in and look at me $500 bills and that would be the stupidest thing you could do. But you know. Yep. When did they stop circulating those? What was that? Like 70s maybe? 60s?

Interesting. Yeah, I don't know. When did they stop circulating $500 bills? 69. Hmm. Yeah. Yeah, they were $1,000 bills. They were big ones.

Yep. That's wild. Nobody used them. They had checks. I think McKinley was the first to say America first as a campaign slogan. Hmm. Well,

was there anything else then, good sir? That'd be it. Y'all have a great night. Thanks for hanging out. Cheers, man. Oh, Brendan Herrera's losing. Oh, no. That sucks.

Yeah, to be honest with you, I don't think that Brendan Herrera's going to be getting a deed. That Tony dude has really, really, really, he's the incumbent, and he's got pretty deep ties with the Republican Party. Although it would have been nice to see Brennan winning. I don't think that that's going to happen. Was that everybody then?

All right, Gavin, thanks for hanging out. It's been fun. Thank you. This was great. And for everybody who's a member, thank you all for your support. With your support, we were able uh get an interview with the president himself donald trump the future president former president and mr president and so uh it is sounding like you know one of the things we said afterwards because because trump said what did he say very

very respectful or something i'm it's my honor uh afterwards said, we'd love to, you know, do a longer form show. And basically everyone involved said, very likely, I think when you call him the greatest president of your lifetime to his face, he's like, I want to do an interview with that guy. I like that guy. I like the way that guy thinks. I mean, yeah, anybody's under any illusions that I'm going in, not supporting Trump already for the 2024 election. Like, come on, we talk about Trump all the time. But I absolutely will, in a longer form setting,

give some pushback and try and get some harder questions and answers. You know, that being said, there's no reason to be fake adversarial. Like, Trump says we're going to do it with police. What do I say after that? Like, well, you can't do it with police. Like, what are we arguing about? Like, I can say, oh, okay, so, like, do you have a plan for that? Like, how would you expand the police?

And Trump would say, it's nuanced, nitty-gritty. We'll get into it when we're in the office, but it's a ridiculous thing to pursue, you know? So, anyway, we'll leave it there. We will be back tomorrow. Mike Lindell is going to be on tomorrow, I believe. And we're excited. So thanks for hanging out, and We'll see you all then.