Timcast IRL - GOP Rep Says IRAN Flying Drones Via Mothership Over NJ, Pentagon DENIES w/Ryan Girdusky

Episode Date: December 12, 2024

Tim, Phil, & Raymond are joined by Ryan Girdusky to discuss a GOP Rep saying mystery drones over New Jersey are from Iran, 'Wanted' posters appearing in NYC depicting CEOs of health insurance companie...s, Caitlin Clark apologizing for her white privilege after winning TIME's athlete of the year, and CNN losing to Food Network & Hallmark in the latest ratings. Ryan Girdusky is a conservative political commentator and author known for his work in politics since 2007, co-authoring the book "They're Not Listening: How the Elites Created the Nationalist Populist Revolution." Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) Raymond @raymondgstanley (X) Serge @SergeDotCom (everywhere) Guest: Ryan Girdusky @RyanGirdusky (X) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Thank you. flying SUVs. And you start telling people that in New Jersey, there are flying SUVs everywhere, and no one knows where they're coming from. People might start freaking out. Some people think they're aliens. I think that's silly, though one can hope. Actually, no, I certainly don't hope so, because aliens will be doing who knows what. But GOP rep Jeff Andrews says that it's Iran, that Iran launched some kind of mothership off the East Coast, which is dispatching these SUV sized drones to fly over New Jersey and Delaware, which is dispatching these SUV-sized drones to fly over New Jersey and Delaware, which is rather scary if you think about what that means because Trump lives near there. He's in Mar-a-Lago most of the time, but he's got Bedminster. And there's concerns about what Iran wants to do to Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:00:56 Now, the Pentagon is saying, no, no, no, it's not the case. But we will talk about that. Plus, we got Daniel Penny threatening a lawsuit, malicious prosecution. And he's correct because does anybody know the name of the other guy that held down Jordan Neely? I bet you don't, but we will tell you. We'll talk all about it. And then Caitlin Clark is getting roasted because she said that, like, I don't know what, she's succeeding because of her white privilege. Fine, whatever.
Starting point is 00:01:21 And then I guess Chet GPT is alive. It's lying to its creators to try and survive or something like that. Sounds fun. December is always the slowest of news months, my friend, so it is what it is. Before we get started, head over to castbrew.com and buy Cast Brew Coffee. And ladies and gentlemen, do I got news
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Starting point is 00:02:51 Absolutely. Who are you? What do you do? That's a great question. I ask myself in the mirror every day. I'm a political consultant, formerly seen on CNN. And I have a podcast coming out in January on the iHeartRadio network called It's a Numbers Game with Ryan Gerduski. Right on.
Starting point is 00:03:07 And it should be fun. Yeah, it should be good. Yeah. We got Raymond hanging out. Hey, friends. Hey, friends. Raymond G. Stanley Jr. here. USMC vet and blue-collar bully.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Hey, Phil. Hello, everybody. My name is Phil Labonte. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains. I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary. Ryan didn't tell you, but he is actually a beeper salesman. I was going to wait to say anything. I have to do something better in my life where that can't be the only thing I'm known for.
Starting point is 00:03:36 I have to figure out something else to do. Dude, it was great. Yeah, I know. You might definitely be proud of. We do have a story. CNN is losing in the ratings to the Food Network. And we'll get into it, but I don't want to drag CNN over this because the Food Network's awesome. Everyone loves food.
Starting point is 00:03:51 Dude, come on. Watching someone make a good lasagna. That's actually a really good point. They have the Christmas baking time right now. Food is universal to human beings. Not everybody cares about the news. I'm not going to blame CNN for that one, but we'll talk about it. So let's jump to this story here.
Starting point is 00:04:05 The one that is the most shocking. The New York Post reports mystery New Jersey drones are coming from Iranian mothership offshore. Congressman suggests, quote, should be shot down. Holy crap, no. That would be catastrophic. They shouldn't be allowed to fly over New Jersey and the United States. But I just want to stress, he didn't suggest it. That would be catastrophic. They shouldn't be allowed to fly over New Jersey and the United States. But I just want to stress, he didn't suggest it.
Starting point is 00:04:33 He literally said, I have high level sources who are telling me this is Iran doing this. Now, that's kind of scary if it's true. I don't know that I believe it because we're going to need some, I don't know, better sourcing. But the Pentagon has come out and outright said, nah, this is not true. Sabrina, can you tell me what the Pentagon is doing to address this issue of drone sightings over New Jersey? It's near sensitive installations. The FBI is involved. What is the Pentagon doing? I'm going to pause real quick and just stress, guys, these are not just drones. They are the size of SUVs. These are flying escalades, okay? Not literally, but massive vehicles flying at low altitude over these urban areas. And people are like, what is going on?
Starting point is 00:05:12 And apparently there's been 3,000 reports to the federal government about—so that doesn't mean 3,000 drones, but people are seeing these things all over the place. Is the mothership the SUV or are they all of them? No, no, no. There's a ship off the East Coast that's launching SUV-sized drones. Yeah, which is, I mean, that's a big runway. I have one thing to point out. If they were flying saucers and they crossed the whole universe and they ended up in New Jersey. You've already made your point.
Starting point is 00:05:39 How disappointed would you be as an alien? Especially up north right outside New York City. Right, exactly. You're in Newark, and you're like, I got to get out of here. Is this what humanity has to offer? Exactly. This is not a great place. Let's leave.
Starting point is 00:05:54 For that matter, if it is Iran, what are they doing in Newark? Well, there's a lot of chemical and nuclear plants up there, too. There's a lot of chemical plants. A lot of trash. That's all I know. There's a ton of chemical plants up in northern Newark. that's all I know. There's a ton of chemical plants up in northern Africa. Well, maybe that's why the aliens would come there too. For what?
Starting point is 00:06:10 They would have their own chemicals. Well, to take out our chemical production. I guess, I mean... Iran makes more sense than aliens going to Delaware to see Joe Biden nude bathe on the beach.
Starting point is 00:06:25 Actually, I disagree. That's one thing the aliens probably would do to study humans and be like, let's see what their leader does. And imagine they see Joe Biden. He's like, doesn't know where he is. He's stumbling. They're definitely like, listen, we're not going to this country anymore. This is the strongest of them. We're going to bypass the planet.
Starting point is 00:06:44 You know, it is silly, but the scariest thought is if aliens did come to Earth and then said, we're going to choose a nation that we believe is the strongest we should communicate with for treaties, and they came to the United States and saw Biden, they'd look at each other and be like, let's try Russia. I mean, I can't imagine them not being like, they picked this guy? Do they actually have a say in who chooses? That's true, though. That is really true. Or if they went to the wrong place, like Mozambique, and they're like, whoa.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Like, this is, we are in the wrong place. You know, one could imagine they would go to where the lights are. Right. That's true. But that's assuming they have eyes that can see light as we see light. Right. Well, we know they don't. Or heat.
Starting point is 00:07:24 They admit with heat. I guess I can feel. I have have no idea i don't really think about aliens that often um i don't think this is aliens i don't even sure it's iranians but then the question is what is it and why would jeff andrews say it was iranian and they should shoot these things down well can't they isn't it possible and i know nothing about like how to destroy a drone besides like obviously shooting it but can't they like jam it or I guess it would maybe affect the planes too. Yeah, you could, but you need information on the drone and to understand how it's being controlled. If it's pre-programmed flight,
Starting point is 00:07:52 then you probably can't do anything. I feel like we have the technology to do that though, don't we? For one of them? These drones in general don't need GPS or wireless data to fly in a path. It can be pre-programmed internally, and it can measure its own speed and distance.
Starting point is 00:08:08 Even if it's the size of a Subaru? Yes, especially if it's the size of a Subaru. Yeah, people are so used to the small drones that they see, the ones that you can fly and own personally and stuff. You forget that the first drones that you knew about were the Global Hawk and the drones over Afghanistan that could carry Hellfire missiles and fire them. And that was the first exposure to any kind of military drone, at least. I mean, there are big, big drones.
Starting point is 00:08:36 There are drones that look like, at least the U.S. has drones that look like stealth aircraft or they have stealth characteristics and stuff. If it is Iran, I think that the U.S. should be, you know, the Coast Guard should be patrolling the waters off our coast. How did Iran get a ship large enough to house a ton of drones and get it that close to the, I mean, is it in the middle of the ocean or is it
Starting point is 00:08:59 close to New Jersey? I don't know what the range is. Or Jeff Andrews wrong. Or Jeff Andrews wrong, which is, I mean, he does represent Southern Jersey, so. And he used to be a Democrat. He was a Democrat. He's the only Republican with an A-plus rating from the pro-abortion
Starting point is 00:09:15 people because he's still very liberal on social issues. But he wins by landslides. They do love him in South Jersey, but I mean, it's Kate May, so. Yeah, they say he stands by his statements. But as I mentioned, I just want to play the last little bit of this. About a month ago that contains these drones and that that mother drones or activities coming from a foreign entity or adversary. Representative Jeff Van Drew, who is a Republican from New Jersey,
Starting point is 00:09:42 was just on the air saying that Iran launched a mothership probably about a month ago that contains these drones and that that mothership is off the coast of the east coast of the United States. Is there any truth to that? There is not any truth to that. There is no Iranian ship off the coast of the United States and there's no so-called mothership launching drones towards the United. Do we believe them? No, I think that the military generally doesn't want to give the public information about anything that's going on ever because the government likes to over classify things anyways. They like to control what information is out. And there is legitimacy to the desire because the more the government, the military can control the information that whatever opposing force has, the more they can control the information they get, the better position the U.S. military is in.
Starting point is 00:10:41 Yeah, I mean, they wouldn't be honest, I don't think. I mean, listen, if Iran was like having weaponized drones fly over New Jersey, they're not going to be like, yeah, panic. They're going to be like, all right, you know, don't worry about anything. I mean, that's probably what they would do. It does kind of seem to make sense to me that Jeff Van Drew is talking
Starting point is 00:10:58 with someone in the know who says this, not expecting Van Drew to go on TV and just go, hey, they just told me this thing. And then the military is like, stop, no. And so what a lot of people need to understand is the U.S. military, there are times where we get attacked, they don't tell you, because the U.S. wants to control the narrative as to what our strength is and when we engage.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Right. When the U.S. says several of our troops were just bombed by Iran, they're basically saying we need public support for retaliation or some kind of incursion. Remember those Chinese balloons were flying all over the West Coast United States and they were like, oh, it's nothing. Don't worry about it. I kind of chalked that up to just like incompetent, maybe incompetence by the Biden administration. But look, I think anything that violates the U.S. airspace, if it can't identify itself, the U.S. has every right and probably should shoot it down. Right. Because the size of bombs and things like that, you don't need a massive, especially when you're dealing with stuff that's the size of a car.
Starting point is 00:11:58 And New Jersey is the most densely populated state in the country. If they have a Christmas holiday season, they could just literally... Forget about blowing up a... If they blew up a bridge, they would lock down literally the most populated city with the most densely populated state in the blink of an eye. So it doesn't...
Starting point is 00:12:17 I don't know if they're weaponized. I don't know if it's Iran. But I feel like if you downed one and there was Iranian language and print or whatever, like made in Tehran on the side of it. You'd be like, oh, OK, I kind of know who this is now. I do think that it makes sense to shoot him down. I mean, Raymond, you're the you're a military guy. I mean, yeah, there's a lot of implications if he's going to go ahead and shoot it down over like populated lands.
Starting point is 00:12:41 Sure. I think they should have a helicopter out there. I don't know why they don't have a helicopter out there tracking them. See where they go. If it's actually a threat, why are they not someone in there, Apache in the air, following them to see where they go? Well, they shot down our drones, remember? Under Trump. They were running and shot down Americans. And we didn't retaliate at all. They were like... The thing to consider about shooting
Starting point is 00:12:58 down these SUV-sized drones is, first, what happens when it falls out of the sky and what does it land on? That's the obvious one. The next one is, where do your bullets go? Yeah, it's true if you're dealing with bullets. I think that if they're the size that we're talking about, if they are the size of a car, they should have a radar signature. How do they miss them?
Starting point is 00:13:21 Yeah, you could see them while they're over the the ocean still if they're coming from the ocean right if that's the argument again i don't know on the beach it's december there's no on the beach well not yeah i mean i know you can still shoot them out while they're over the air right yes and i do think that this is an argument for in the future um the u.s should be looking to I know that there's efforts to create laser anti-air stuff that's not missiles and stuff because shooting a missile is expensive. A javelin is like
Starting point is 00:13:51 $100,000 per shot or whatever. That's pennies an hour. Maybe under the new Elon Musk doge we won't be spending that kind of money but that's nothing. It is but if you have a laser lasers are faster to track. They can target stuff.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Ostensibly, the theory is that they can- The Dr. Evil laser. Well, they can shoot down. Well, they have lasers on ships now. No, I know. And so if you had that kind of stuff, they can shoot down. There's all this talk about hypersonic missiles,
Starting point is 00:14:20 which are just ICBMs or whatever. If you can track and shoot those down, I mean, that's a worthwhile expense for the U.S. How many drones was it? Because it's not 3,000 drones. It's 3,000 sightings. It could be 3,000 people one time. That's a good question, too. I think it's dozens or a dozen.
Starting point is 00:14:38 That's a lot. There are photos where you can see there's several in the air at one time. I mean, look at the way to take them down out of the sky is you want to wait for them to go over a much sparsely populated area. And then you want to drop a net onto the rotors, depending on if that's what they're using to fly. I'm assuming these are rotor based drones, but I could be wrong. And if they are more like small jets, then you've got a bigger issue, but they've got to be brought down. They could probably easily hack them. And I say easily, I don't mean anybody could just do it, but anybody with the skills
Starting point is 00:15:11 could figure this out. There is also the, I would find this interesting is they may not actually be wireless. They, I would imagine because of what the U S already saw with the drone getting hacked and brought down, this technology has been updated. And although many of these drones are going to be wireless and remote controlled, some of them will be pre-programmed. So we've had this technology forever. You can put in the GPS coordinates in a drone. It'll identify where it's at. You can then deactivate its GPS, but it knows how far and fast it's going, and it has an internal map. So it can track on a map and follow a route, come back with no external communications. That you're not going to hack. That's why you need to shoot it down.
Starting point is 00:15:51 I did see a lot of them, they have lights on them. So if they're trying, if they're irate. Yes. Go ahead. Yeah. Go ahead. Good. I was going to say, if they're adversary, why are there lights?
Starting point is 00:16:00 Why can we see them in the sky? And it's been, as part of this report, is that when people take note of them and begin pointing, filming, and staring, the lights shut off. But we have video of them with lights on, correct? Right. So, you have to, I'll tell you a story, man. My buddy was in a conflict zone reporting, and he said that he, like, a simplified version of it, he went into his hotel room and his computer was open and he was like,
Starting point is 00:16:27 okay, well my computer is always shut off, turned off, locked. It was open. And the, and the desktop was open. Like someone had logged in.
Starting point is 00:16:32 They want you to know they did that. The only reason why Intel guys or, you know, whatever you want to call them. The only reason why they would forget to leave your laptop to close your laptop is because when you come back, they want you to know they were in your room and they had done this. Well, yeah, I mean, if you're Iran and you could get into the interior
Starting point is 00:16:51 of the United States, that is pretty, for anyone, I mean, not even just Iran, China, anybody, Russia, whoever, that's pretty freaking crazy. To your point about China, or you bring up China, the fact that China flew a balloon over that made it literally over the whole country multiple times. I think that if it is Iran, I imagine this is, you know, China in, you know. And do you know how many dumbass Zoomers probably took selfies with the balloon in the background? Like, look how beautiful that is.
Starting point is 00:17:20 Like, this is such a great moment for Instagram. That balloon's in like 75 million different Instagram shots at this point. We'll read one more super chip before we jump over, but mechanical mercenary says they are manned and supposedly pivotal aero units doing military testing can't shoot our own pilots down. Oh, he's saying it's us? Yeah, I think a strong possibility that it's US based,
Starting point is 00:17:43 but I don't know why they'd be flying over densely populated New Jersey urban areas, you know what I mean? Yeah, as testing stuff out there. We have plenty of land that can test out these products. And she would just say it's a routine whatever. She would just say it's something else. Yeah, and if they're testing, that's what the Area 51 is for because they're over the desert. There's not a lot of people. Tons of land with nobody living on it.
Starting point is 00:18:04 Sure, there's people that are watching. And we own 75 million islands in the middle of the Pacific if there's no one living on. You have 75 million islands? Whatever. There's a bunch of islands. That's a lot of them. The Mojave Desert is ripe for flying weird things.
Starting point is 00:18:15 That's why they have the spaceport out there. Yeah, so I don't think they would fly over New Jersey. I don't think they'd be like, you know what? Let's go crazy. Newark. Well, let's bring it back to Earth with this story from the Post Millennial. Wanted posters calling for violence against health insurance CEOs spotted in New York. There's a quote.
Starting point is 00:18:33 Brian Thompson was denied his claim to life. Who will be denied next? Look at this. This is crazy. TikToker, the barbecue lady, shared a video this week showing wanted posters for health insurance CEOs plastered all over Manhattan. They say deny, defend, depose. When the rich rob the poor, it's called business. When the poor fight back, it's called violence, says the one for murdered.
Starting point is 00:18:54 Oh, says the poster for a murdered health care CEO, Brian Thompson. A suspect in Thompson's murder was arrested. This we know. The poster shows his photo with a red X through it. It blames Thompson, not his killer, for his death and issues threats to other executives with Optum Health and UnitedHealthcare. These posters are a direct call for violence against executives in the health insurance industry.
Starting point is 00:19:14 Here's a question. Do you think if someone was caught putting these up, they could be arrested and charged? Not in New York. No, not I. I'm not asking about New York. I'm saying under the law, is this a violation of the law? Do they call for a death in New York? Yeah, not I. I'm not asking about New York. I'm saying under the law, is this a violation of the law? Do they call for death in there? Yeah, what do they say?
Starting point is 00:19:29 If they call for death, then I think so. That's the question. Because it's not, this is an actual threat then. It's not, if they're calling for them, if they say,
Starting point is 00:19:38 execute this person who lives at this address, then yes, I think that they can. It looks like they're mock wanted photos. Yeah, I understand that, but with the language in it. Yeah. If someone's putting up a flyer that
Starting point is 00:19:47 says do a thing to a person, it's a question of is that crossing the line into illegality? I think I think if it says specifically what you want to if it says harm this person, you can't make physical threats to somebody. You can sit there and say they're terrible people. This is the challenge. What if it says here's a picture of a CEO. You know what must be done. Wink, wink, nudge, nudge. Literally, the text says that. Is that a threat of violence? Because we know what they're saying.
Starting point is 00:20:13 I failed at a law school. At art school, I didn't go to law school, so I don't really know. But I have no idea what that's. I don't know. I think that. I don't know. It depends on what it is. Does it say what it's exactly saying? Deny. No, I don't. I don't think that I'm not speaking.
Starting point is 00:20:29 I'm speaking like the point I'm bringing up is obviously if someone puts up a poster that says you should go do thing that is criminal. Right. That's criminal. I'm saying if someone uses veiled language that we know what the intention is, but they didn't literally say it. Do we just say, well, we saw that in all the Gaza protests. They said veiled language, but it was legal because we have a First Amendment in this country. You can say something as long as you're not actually threatening somebody. I think that there was, I think this is,
Starting point is 00:20:56 if this is veiled language, it's legal. They're going to start going out chanting, oh, won't someone rid me of this priest? Yeah, but I mean, it depends on the question you're asking. Are you asking is or ought? So should it be illegal? Maybe it illegal great point probably you know the story of i want someone rid me yes rid me no i don't the king was frustrated with the priest he was like oh i want someone rid me of this priest this meddlesome priest and then two knights
Starting point is 00:21:18 were like okay and they went and killed him and he was like i didn't tell you to do this where was this country uh is it real i think oh okay it sounds like a british thing to do um i i um i don't think that this i don't read the poster and i didn't go to law turbulent turbulent priest it was henry ii of england oh receiving the death of thomas beckett he was frustrated annoyed by him and said you know well beckett never shut up so i can see that yeah um i i think i think that uh i don't think that this is um this is illegal from what i see um but i'm not a lawyer but it's definitely a threat there and uh i'm sure if you were a ceo you'd probably be moving to a gated community and so not seeing yourself publicly what you're saying is a civil war is coming no i didn't say that at
Starting point is 00:22:04 all and their fight back is like america is so fat we cannot have a civil war we can barely walk to the corner so like it would be a rolling electronic civil war we're all on like those things you see at walmart and disney world that would be like the army instead of tanks like that robot animation yeah just a morbidly obese of both obese people obese people just trying to, you know, roll towards each other. Sir, we need more rascals for the front line. Forget about rising again. They can't rise, period.
Starting point is 00:22:32 It's just, yeah, no. It's, no, I don't think that this is, this is, you know, like, what do you think happens with this, with this, like, wave of,
Starting point is 00:22:40 is this a flash in the pan that people forget about come January? Well, look, you were at the Occupy Wall Street stuff. How long did that last for? Well, not only that.
Starting point is 00:22:49 Four months. And then by like February, the protests were a tenth of their size. And then. Yeah, everyone moves on. Listen, I know. I don't think that it's everyone moving on. This kind of stuff, this sentiment is built on Occupy. It's built on.
Starting point is 00:23:04 That's true, too. It's the same people involved. Okay, but true question. If Luigi was not good-looking, would anyone care? Oh, good question. I do think so. They don't care about the crime
Starting point is 00:23:13 as much as they care about the person because he's handsome. JonBenet, they didn't care much about the crime. They cared about the victim. I don't know, man. George Floyd was not that pretty. And that still set up a bunch of... Yeah, but Chauvin.
Starting point is 00:23:26 It was hard. But, I mean, I understand what you're saying, that the charisma of the actual shooter might have something to say. Big difference. But I have felt like, and I continue to make the argument regularly, that there is a sentiment in the U.S. that is illiberal. We have a big communist problem in the U.S. that is illiberal. We have a we have a big communist problem in the U.S. And there are people that that are essentially making, you know, class dynamic arguments or class conflict arguments.
Starting point is 00:23:56 This is totally about class. That's 100 percent true. His case is very strange. I was talking on the way here. It's strange because I don't think so. His lawyer said they've so far been presented no evidence that he's actually the guy who, there's no evidence tying him to New York. I'm not saying I believe that's true. The lawyer could be saying that for obvious reasons. But also the police reported that
Starting point is 00:24:18 this guy wasn't even on their radar or list when he was actually apprehended. Why did he have to show an ID at a McDonald's? No, they called the cops. They called the cops on him, and the cops came in, you know, show me your ID. So the cops asked him, who are you? He wasn't a McDonald's worker.
Starting point is 00:24:32 Okay, so someone's from the... But why... I have a second cousin who looks just like him. Yeah, I don't know. All Italians from Southern really look like semi-related to that guy. I think that... Here's what's weird.
Starting point is 00:24:46 He was from a super wealthy family right he i don't think he was denied any services that's the whole argument like oh he was denied a service therefore he became a vigilante i never have heard of him being denied a service i heard that he got um back surgery that was is is notoriously unaffected. Like, you get it and maybe it'll work, maybe it won't. And his didn't work out and so he blames the insurance company?
Starting point is 00:25:12 You know that he's an insult, right? He can't have sex. Which also makes no sense because he's so built. He's so jacked. How can you lift weights and not have sex? That's why I think
Starting point is 00:25:21 it's a good idea. Let her get on top. It's not that much work. I mean, like, seriously, that doesn't make any sense. A lot of things in his narrative don't make sense. Someone reported,
Starting point is 00:25:30 so it's like a guy who knows him says that his back pain was so bad that he couldn't be intimate. I know, I read that. That was like a roommate or something. I'm just clarifying for the audience. No, yeah, I mean, I get it, but like at the same time,
Starting point is 00:25:41 a lot of things in the whole story just are very strange. It could be really simple. Like the thing about incels is that there was some interview a while ago with a guy who was an incel and he was an average looking guy. And he was like, it's just impossible for us to, you know, be intimate with women, blah, blah, blah. And the response from most of the comments was like, what are you talking about? It's like a normal guy. The issue is social.
Starting point is 00:26:03 And in his mind, It's possible he's ripped but still completely incapable of talking to women. That's probably, I mean, listen, possibly he's very, he's very handsome. He went to an Ivy League school,
Starting point is 00:26:11 rich, rich family. Dumb as a box of rocks though. Possibly. Did you read his manifesto? I mean, there was a lot of spelling errors. That dude is dumb. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:19 There's a lot of spelling errors. Well, I mean, like there was a lot of spelling errors and I also read some of his book reviews. I also saw his Spotify playlist and that was stranger shit. It was like Charlie XCX, Taylor was a lot of spelling errors. And I also read some of his book reviews. I also saw his Spotify playlist. That was strange as shit.
Starting point is 00:26:26 It was like Charlie XCX, Taylor Swift, and Lana Del Rey. Who kills someone after listening to Taylor Swift? I mean, like, you've got to. I mean. I mean, yes. But, like, no, not out of aggression where you listen to Taylor Swift. It's like you're, you know, energized by a Taylor Swift song. To Tim's point, though, and actually this is something that Matty Iglesias tweeted yesterday.
Starting point is 00:26:44 Like, there were big, dumb things in his manifesto. So he's talking about the market cap list, which is totally wrong. He ignores the role of homicide, suicide, drug overdose, and car wrecks in life expectancy. Obesity, yeah. He's saying that life expectancy is something that the health insurance company or health insurance industry should have an effect on. And that's totally misaligned overstating the, the role of insurer profit in the U S to health spending. Like,
Starting point is 00:27:12 and then Roe Connell like repeated all like the bad facts about how much, but yeah, I mean, he's in Congress. So yeah, I mean, he's, so the guy was an idiot.
Starting point is 00:27:19 Yeah, no, there was a lot of things completely, completely and totally wrong. Also life expectancies back up again and obesity is down. Health wise, under Biden's presidency, actually things have started getting a little better. But not to his credit, it just so happened. Not to him.
Starting point is 00:27:33 Not to him. No. Sorry, Joe. But there. But yes, I don't think that he was a philosopher king. Also, wait, he's had such bad back problems. He's being shoved by the cops and fighting against them. You can't have sex, but you can go with your arms tied behind your back and start shoving at cops.
Starting point is 00:27:51 The incel thing may have been just to deride him. I don't think that that's real. I'm sorry. I just don't believe it. Being rich and wealthy makes no sense. In the aspect of BLM, a lot of folks, it's people in New York who were caught throwing Molotov cocktails at the cops. They're rich. Wealth doesn't pay an aspect. No, I didn't say wealth to be a socialist. BLM, a lot of folks, it's people in New York who were caught throwing Molotov cocktails at the cops. They're rich. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:06 Wealth doesn't pay an aspect. No, I didn't say wealth to be a socialist. You said it doesn't make sense. No, it doesn't make sense that you couldn't have sex and be wealthy. That's easy to buy, I mean, if you're that wealthy. But that was, but no, the thing, no, most, like, radicals usually do tend to come from higher income families. The poor are not the ones, after your, you know, 12-hour shift. You'll be the workin'.
Starting point is 00:28:24 Yeah, after your 12-hour shift at Walmart, you're not going, like, you know what I need to do right now? Get a Molotov cocktail. You're kind of exhausted. But most of these people are from wealthy people. I believe the radicalization could happen. I believe that he could have printed a ghost gun. He was such a smart engineer, and maybe his political takes
Starting point is 00:28:40 were all bullshit. But there's a lot of things that are very, very strange about the cake. I agree that it's strange. Yeah. I just want to ask about the silencer, right? Wasn't there a silencer
Starting point is 00:28:49 in the video? So we didn't find that. I haven't seen any reports that they found a silencer as well. They found a gun. No, they, the photos I seen was just a gun in a magazine.
Starting point is 00:28:58 Didn't they say that they had the silencer? Not that I've read yet. Can I just, I tried to look it up a little bit, but I haven't seen it. One other thing,
Starting point is 00:29:04 we know more about him than the Trump shooter, the Las Vegas shooter, almost every other shooter. And I think it's because, partially, people are interested in him because he's good looking. I don't think that they cared. I think that that has driven a lot of attention in this case where, you know, I wasn't alive during Ted Bundy. No, I think that that's—well, listen, I look like a fat Jew, so it doesn't matter to me. But I think that this is probably what is projected a lot of interest in this case. I don't really think there's going to be like a bunch of vigilantes now being like, you know what? I'm going to do the next Luigi.
Starting point is 00:29:37 I mean, I don't know for sure. I don't know. I think that I probably agree with you. There's not going to be a bunch of vigilantes. But I do still stand by the argument argument that there is a a significant upswing and there has been for the past you know 10 or so years maybe longer of essentially Marxist power dynamics that people believe if you are an oppressed person or if you can can style yourself oppressed and we and we see it with the way that that um you know people have been lying about being minorities or whatever.
Starting point is 00:30:09 They lie about I'm some oppressed group because that is social currency now. If you are oppressed, then you are – Or it's not even if you are oppressed, if you're fighting for the oppressed. Yeah, that's true too. Which is – he's never – this guy is not oppressed. He's not oppressed. But he's fighting for the oppressed, which, that's true, too. Which is, he's never, this guy's not oppressed. Like, he's not oppressed. But he's fighting for the oppressed, which makes him, you know, an ally or whatever the hell they call it. And that dynamic, that essentially, again, Marxist power dynamic, is something that is really, really prevalent in, probably in Gen Z and maybe some younger millennials probably, too.
Starting point is 00:30:41 You know? I mean. It's a poison. Yeah, and I think a lot of it lives on the internet where the people's brains go to fry. I think there is like mental illness is like really being driven on the internet big time. You know, I was talking to a buddy of mine
Starting point is 00:30:54 who was recently in New York and he was concerned that the people who follow, like the liberal center of New York would have a negative reaction to his presence because of his online persona. And he found completely none of it. And people were happy to meet him and they were fans. And I was just like, there's two things I understand. The Internet is not real life, but the Internet deeply influences the institutions of real life, like how ads are bought and what people are willing to say or not to say.
Starting point is 00:31:22 So what I find is 99.9% of the people I meet are going to be fans. They're going to agree largely on most of these issues. They're going to say abortion at the point of birth. That's crazy. But maybe they're more moderate on abortion issues. But then the problem is with the internet and with wokeness, up until obviously the sweep this November, advertisers and individuals
Starting point is 00:31:45 are scared to speak out against what they perceive to be the dominant culture right now that's true that's 100 true people only look at financial retaliation in a minute like i didn't didn't i might i saw this on uh like a instagram thing so maybe it's not true but didn't like a lot of the view ladies just recently lose endorsement deals or whatever because of how hatred look at msnbc i know that for a fact yeah that's what i read there were a few of them that lost like movie deals or whatever um could be wrong but uh but look at msnbc it's being sold for scraps cnn the food channel i mean they are all because it's so vitriolically hated and there's so much hatred rather coming from them uh that uh that i think that that oh
Starting point is 00:32:26 sorry hatred towards conservatives from them that i think that people are kind of tired look man you see uh gwen stefani she recently did a commercial what was it for for hello yeah for hello yeah for the catholic thing yeah a lot of people were like she's always been openly catholic but she's not paid any attention yeah but to see like uh a celebrity of in from her position like mark wahlberg we get mark wahlberg has been deeply religious for a long time and people know that but then it and you mentioned that but people are feeling like that along with the apple commercial and the volvo commercial that that was insane a major shift is is is towards the right and it's not walking on minefields anymore and that's like the thing that i noticed about i wrote this whole long piece of the american conservative magazine
Starting point is 00:33:09 about the 2024 election and part of it is like when trump went to ufc fights and people were fight celebrities were fighting for selfies with him i think that that was a major cultural turning point where people were like oh it's not bad. I could say this out loud and it's not going to be scary or cancelable or whatever. And I think that's a big part of it for sure. It's kind of crazy how it all changed. It changed fast because
Starting point is 00:33:35 BLM was insane. It was an insane... BLM was so nutty. You ever go through a traumatic experience and then after it's over, you take care of someone who's very sick through a traumatic experience and then after it's over you're like or you take care of someone who's very sick and then they die and then after it's over you're like that was insane that i lived like that because that was nuts this is kind of like what we're having afterwards i was when i was on scene in one time with um uh what's his face
Starting point is 00:33:58 um maddie and john's no not that one and jones and jones and jones goes yeah you know my party was really crazy in 2020 i I go, but why? It was crazy because of BLM. And you sat there and said all the criminals need to go free. And we could burn down buildings. And everything was okay. And you co-signed criminality. And for a lot of, you know, minorities who are, you know, not lawbreakers and who, like, have, want to own a store or whatever it is, they were like, I'm not really down with this.
Starting point is 00:34:24 I'm not really going to be this party. Let's jump to this story from Fox News. Caitlin Clark admits feeling privilege as a white person, says WNBA was built on black players. Yeah, man. She got featured on Time magazine as athlete featured by Time magazine as athlete of the year. And then, of course, because she there's a target on her back for being at the year. And then, of course, because there's a target on her back for being at the top, she immediately pulls this
Starting point is 00:34:48 please, please leftists don't beat me up anymore. And it is particularly cringed. The sad thing about this is that she was generally viewed favorably by everybody, conservatives, liberals, whatever. Now she's just basically
Starting point is 00:35:02 taken a political stance. And weirdly, it's the losing political stance as the Republicans just swept everything. She's also getting the crap kicked out of her. That's what I'm saying. I mean, she's actually getting physically beaten on the on the. Well, this is not going to help. No, there's no way.
Starting point is 00:35:16 It's a bunch of angry lesbians beating the hell out of her because she's a pretty straight white girl. I mean, that's exactly what we're watching. This is Fight Club. It's not really the WNBA. It's not going to change. I mean, we're going to have this for. This is Fight Club. It's not really the WNBA. Am I wrong? Well, it's not going to change. I mean, we're going to have this for generations, right? We're going to have the millennials started off.
Starting point is 00:35:29 We're going to have Gen X or Gen Z and then Alpha. They've all been institutionalized to believe that white privilege is a thing, that all this woke ideology is a thing. The normies will believe this kind of thing. I bet you she did not write this statement. I bet you a PR company did. And they said, this is the way you handle this. And this is the statement you have to give.
Starting point is 00:35:47 Because she doesn't ever speak of politics. And I think, I might be wrong on this, but I think she used to like Instagram posts that were Trump-friendly. And people had a big outrage towards that as well. She could consider perhaps growing a spine. It probably got knocked out of her during the court. I mean, that's hey you know man sometimes uh having a spine means getting your spine kicked unless she believes it like i said like all these people have been taught this for years and years their whole growing up this i don't think she actually believe yeah i don't think she was i
Starting point is 00:36:16 think that her pr company was like we'll take care this is our job we know what we're doing look at how much we helped you you're this big celebrity and they wrote something and she probably was like all right that sounds good. I don't think that she's a particularly political person. Well, you could be kind of. This is the problem with wokeness and institution and industry and sports or whatever is that nobody wants you to be. The culty people do.
Starting point is 00:36:39 They would demand it. But she could have just not entered the fray of the culture war. And she decided, hey, I'm not a very political person. And I've got people on left and right who actually are cheering for me. I'm going to ruin all of that and scream one of the most fringe political ideologies I can. I think that Ryan's right there. She's probably getting beat up and not physically beat up. She is physically getting beaten up.
Starting point is 00:37:01 They've been attacking her on the court. They've been like literally pummeling this poor girl. And her teammates don't stand up for her. They let it happen. It's ridiculous. And she's making like $40,000 a year. She's going to need that back surgery that Luigi had pretty soon. And she's not getting the money to do it because she's making $50,000 a year as a WNBA player.
Starting point is 00:37:17 She has endorsements. Oh, I know. I know. But still, she's the most famous WNBA player I think who's ever lived at this point. I don't know. I can't name another one. I can't name a single one. I can't name most famous WNBA player, I think, who's ever lived at this point. I don't know. I can't name another one. I can't name a single one. I can't name a single WNBA player.
Starting point is 00:37:28 No one cares about the WNBA. No, but she made it interesting, and the fights made it interesting. And, yeah. Can you, off the top of my head, Venus and Serena Williams, like top female athletes. Mia Hamm, was that her name? No, no, she was like a soccer player. I know. And Venus and Serena were tennis players
Starting point is 00:37:45 I'm sorry I thought you said I'm saying how many top female athletes can you name Monica Patrick and Rayson there was that
Starting point is 00:37:52 the pink haired soccer player I don't know her name Megan Rapinoe Megan Rapinoe I don't know anything about her the woman from the
Starting point is 00:37:59 Billy Jean King okay I got one the other the other lesbian who's... I don't know. I mean, like, Venus and Serena is the easiest because they're some of the greatest athletes of all time. Yeah, I mean, for women.
Starting point is 00:38:12 For women. Yeah. For girls, they're great. Oh, the swimmer, Riley Gaines. I know her. I met her. So there you go. I got one other one.
Starting point is 00:38:18 I mean, but, yeah, there's not a... But is Riley, like, a world's best Olympian-level top tier? No, but... Oh, Simone Bowles. Simone Bowles. Simone Biles. Oh Riley like a world's best Olympian level top tier? No. Oh, Simone Bowles. Simone Bowles. Simone Biles. Oh, yeah. She's super good.
Starting point is 00:38:29 She's very, very – she had a nervous breakdown. She couldn't compete, but she is very good. Oh, and what's her face who turned into that floozy? The gymnast? Who turned into a floozy? Michaela – I don't know. What's her name?
Starting point is 00:38:41 Don off the top of my head. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know what her name is either. Is floozy the wrong word? No, I don't know. Maybe she's a floozy. Yeah, it's a good word.
Starting point is 00:38:50 Michaela Maroney. I don't know who that is. Yeah, she just started doing Instagram content or whatever. Oh, she became a thot. Maybe I'm wrong about that, and I should apologize because I don't know what I'm talking about. We're not really killing on the female athletes list. They're going to be like five guys in a room of misogynist patriarchists. Maria Sarapova.
Starting point is 00:39:11 She was a huge member. She was the tennis player. Navratilova. Navratilova, yes, because she talks about all the women's stuff. She wants women's sports. We're killing it. Yeah, but hold on. How many WNBA?
Starting point is 00:39:23 Oh, zero. There's not a chance. Dana Terezi. I know who that is. Who are you talking about? She's really one of the OGs. Did you just look that up? No, no.
Starting point is 00:39:31 I knew that one. Okay. No, she's good. I swear to God. She's good. Okay. I mean, wasn't there only one dunk in the whole history of the WNBA? Yeah, there was that tall lady.
Starting point is 00:39:42 Why dunk? They can't dunk? They can't dunk. They physically can't. They can't physically dunk They can't dunk. They physically can't. They can't physically dunk. It's weird. They can only jump like one foot instead of two. Yeah, there's only been one, I think, one dunk in the history of the WBA.
Starting point is 00:39:54 Isn't the hoop lower, though? I don't think so. I think it's the same. Only one dunk. Yeah, so it's not... Remember when that group of high school boys... Yeah, 15-year-olds? The 15-year-olds beat them. It's, yeah, biology's real. Yeah, so it's not. Remember when that group of high school boys checked out? Yeah, 15-year-olds. The 15-year-olds beat them. Yeah, biology's real.
Starting point is 00:40:09 Yeah. I mean, at the end of the day, biology's real. You'll get in trouble for that one. But it's true. I skateboard, so I don't know much about basketball, football, or otherwise. But I can tell you that major league sports don't bar women from playing in them.
Starting point is 00:40:24 Really, they don't? Yeah, a woman can try for the NBA if she wants to. Oh, I didn't know that. Good luck. That's why there have been women who have tried out for the NFL as kickers. Did they ever get it? No. Oh.
Starting point is 00:40:33 There are a few female kickers who are decent, and they've tried and then just flubbed it. To answer your question, who's the best trade America has ever made for a hostage in the world? It would be Brittany Grimer. Oh, yeah. The only one to ever dunk. There you go.
Starting point is 00:40:49 She dunked? Yeah, she dunked. It says the only one who stands alone in 2024. She's a giant, too. Yeah. She has no marks. Anyways, that's a whole different subject. Okay.
Starting point is 00:40:58 So, yeah, there you go. David Lucas was on here. Yeah. Yeah. Not a... You know, I will say this i can't speak to the other sports but in skateboarding the first 720 rotation which you understand what that means right 360 times two right so it was landed in i think uh i think it would have been the the early 80s and the first
Starting point is 00:41:19 female 720 was landed a couple years ago uh i think it was a couple years ago. The first 900 rotation... Is it because of the height you need to get to to do that? Sometimes you need to be high in the air to go around twice. So it's an overt ramp. Well, let me say one more thing. The first 900 rotation, of course, very famously Tony Hawk in 1999. So it's now been 25 years, and the first female 900 was ever completed 25 years later. And the first 1080 spin was done by a 12-year-old boy.
Starting point is 00:41:49 No female has yet to accomplish a 1080 rotation. Maybe they need to find a 10-year-old girl. I mean, that's pretty wild. I know more about the WNBA than I do about skating, so I'm completely at a loss. I'm just using that to describe the gap in time it took for women to accomplish what men had done decades ago. And for whatever reason it is, my point is that women were capable of doing it but did not do it. Okay. Yeah, but is it because they never –
Starting point is 00:42:14 They can. Right. Tanya Harding is another. Oh, sure. Ice skating. Nancy Kerrigan. Sorry. Nancy Kerrigan.
Starting point is 00:42:20 Yeah, I'm just sorry. Blanked on my head. No, there are female – like there's female figure skaters who do stuff, but is it a question of ability or creativity? I would imagine it's more of ability. Like the median, there's probably more median, like well, female ice skaters than men, but there's probably more amazing male ice skaters than female. In my experience watching male and female skateboarders, female skateboarders
Starting point is 00:42:45 tend not to be able to jump. Maybe that's why they can't dunk in the WNBA. I'd imagine. Yeah. Brave total, I apologize,
Starting point is 00:42:53 in 2024, is only Brittany Grimer in all of WNBA. Per Brave AI, 37 dunks in total. Okay, sorry. Out of 27 years. 37 out of 27 years.
Starting point is 00:43:02 Wow. Muggsy Bogues could do a 360 dunk and he was 5'3". He was awesome. Brittany Griner, 6'9". Whoa! She can get three feet. It's three foot.
Starting point is 00:43:11 She makes three foot vertical. Well, actually, no, not even three foot vertical. Her arms are... Her arms are like... It's like a one-foot jump to be able to do it. What were we talking about again? Oh, yeah, wokeness. Wokeness.
Starting point is 00:43:23 So I'll just bring it back to the article and just say it's kind of funny for caitlin cock to say this when it's on the way out right like we just we just saw the massive wave towards trump and against this and she's like i'll go the other direction i think it's probably a pr firm and i just think that she listen she i mean it's not easy especially when there's a racial view of everything that she does because she is a white woman in a black sport with a black audience, predominantly, I imagine. I would love to know, actually, where the revenue of the WN comes from. Is it primarily black clients?
Starting point is 00:43:52 That's GPT. It knows everything, doesn't it? Yeah, it does. It's a rock. Is it mostly a black audience or a white audience that pays for all the tickets and stuff like that? That's a lot. It's all offset by the— It's all subsidy.
Starting point is 00:44:01 There's no audience at all. Nobody watches it. It's all finance. People watched it when she all. Nobody watches it. It's all finance. People watched it when she was playing, though, in college. No, those are just family members. She's got so many family members. All the players' family members show up. You know how when a high school band is trying to play a show,
Starting point is 00:44:17 they just bring all their friends and family to pay the five bucks to come in so they can do the show? That's what it's like. That's a WNBA. But there's got to be some viewership. You had seven pay-per-view viewers today. It was mom, dad, brother, sister. We're just ragging on the WNBA now just because it's funny.
Starting point is 00:44:32 It is funny. So Grock says that it's a mix of individual fans, season ticket holders, groups and organizations, and resale market. I wonder if the demographic is mostly. I'm probably a lot of black audience doing that and so she feels like this is what they have to do i don't i don't know if i agree because um daytime tv is overwhelmingly black female viewers really really oh it's like that's wnba is daytime
Starting point is 00:44:55 tv no but like that's why you see a lot of that's why you see the casting of daytime tv being what it is is because it used to be 30 years ago a lot of stay-at-home moms in the white suburbs doing that and that's why you'd soap poppers. Now it is primarily a black female audience. It's overwhelmingly and that's why I do know that for a fact and that's why the daytime TV looks the way it does. Maybe, and
Starting point is 00:45:17 the politics the way it is. Maybe this is, maybe she's just like this is what your demos look like. I mean this is a whole different subject is that because a lot of them have they're not working and they're I don't know why that's the audience I do know that's the audience
Starting point is 00:45:34 and that's the audience for the view and that's why the views topics have changed that's why their politics have changed that's why there's so many judge shows they're cheaper to make too but that's why there's so many judge shows that's a demo that sits there and feeds into those things. So I don't know. But that is why I imagine part of it is sitting there and saying, Caitlin, your audience is 50% black women or whatever.
Starting point is 00:45:55 So you were going to sit there and toe the line and keep pushing on this. Possibly. I don't know. I mean, this is a spoiler for sponsorships. Yeah. If it's like, what's her face? Who was the transgender uh dylan mulvaney dylan mulvaney yeah i mean dylan mulvaney so there will be by the way they will
Starting point is 00:46:12 light is not going to recover there will be an economics course hopefully one day like harvard business school saying how to ruin a very successful business and it will be all about dylan mulvaney's endorsement oh yeah if they're like in a real world. And the response to it. No, in a real world, they should be teaching like business courses of how to ruin a company. Indeed. Well, let's move on. Let's jump to the story from Fox News. Daniel Penny's lawyers weighing malicious prosecution lawsuit after trial.
Starting point is 00:46:41 Collusion from the very beginning. I'd like to start this by first that those aren't familiar. I think everybody knows Jordan Neely was a well-known violent criminal who had rejected treatment, who appeared in a train threatening people. Daniel Penny had subdued him in the process. Jordan Neely ended up dying after the fact. Penny just recently was acquitted. But as many people, they're somewhat aware. I have a question for all of you guys. Can you name the other man who held down Jordan Neely? No. Negative. I don't know. I know he's black. I'll give you some. I know his last name was Gonzalez. That's all I know. Oh, he's close. Oh, Eric Gonzalez. Eric, the black man who held down Jordan Neely and didn't get charged. So it sounds to me like Daniel Penny may actually have a malicious prosecution lawsuit.
Starting point is 00:47:27 There should be some kind of recourse where if your life is destroyed by a political DA somewhere, you should have some kind of recourse to sue them. I mean, I don't know what that would be like. I'm sure you could sue the city. You can't sue the DA personally because there's protection. Oh, it says they're going to sue him. The lawsuit would target DA Alvin Bragg and the medical examiner's office. I mean, who do you target in a malicious prosecution anyway?
Starting point is 00:47:50 Yeah, but the DAs have protective immunity. Do they? I know cops do. I'm almost 100% sure. You would know more than me. If the DAs don't have protective immunity, I would be shocked considering how many would have already been personally sued and had their house taken away. That would be hard to sit there and say how they could sue him personally, but he could definitely sue the city. It says his team is eyeing a malicious prosecution lawsuit against D.A. Alvin Bragg and others behind the charges, turning the tables. Quote, they knew they weren't going to be able to get him,
Starting point is 00:48:23 so they had to get rid of that top count in order to get that second count just in hopes that maybe they could pull out a win here. Do you know that Daniel Penny is also Italian? Like, as a fellow Italian, it has been highs and lows this week as far as people making the news among my people. Maybe you should call the family. I don't know what's going on, but we've had ups and downs. Yeah, I
Starting point is 00:48:45 hope he's successful. I don't know how he would do it, but I hope he's successful because he was ripped his whole life or even forever, no matter what he does, he could cure cancer and it will be next to his name, the guy who did the chokehold. Did you see what the
Starting point is 00:49:01 corporate press has been saying? There was one print paper and it said, Marina quitted after strangling Subway Dancer or something like that. Yeah. Unreal. Yeah, but where does he go to get his life back? Really? I mean, that's the thing about the internet.
Starting point is 00:49:14 There's no way to ever, ever go back to your normal life. You can never have a normal life. Even if he moves to like a red state or red county, you can never have a normal life again. That will follow your kids for the rest of their lives. Everything. I mean, and it was clearly all nonsense.
Starting point is 00:49:30 He could, he could, he could solve this easily. Oh, if he transitions and gets a new name and no one's going to know. Dan, the other Dan yet. Well,
Starting point is 00:49:38 it's a little on the nose. Yeah. That's what they usually do. Maybe he can change his name to Jordan. Penny. Neely? I mean, yeah. And then put on a dress.
Starting point is 00:49:50 And dance? No, but that's a good... I mean, listen, I hope he's successful. So this is... Not to just shift too dramatically, but this is an interesting conversation that came up. I can't remember what podcast I was listening to. They were talking about how...
Starting point is 00:50:02 That trans youth may be a result of being unable to escape the internet. And that, so imagine this, you're a teenager and someone films you at a party or whatever and embarrasses you and ruins your life. Everyone's making fun of you and they keep sharing the video and you can't escape it. You want to change your name. You want to be someone else. It's dark. And yeah, so not that it's an absolute reason of all trans youth, but that the concern is that there are young women who are deeply embarrassed, deeply impacted by social issues, get mocked and made fun of for something in school, and then are told you can change your name, change your appearance,
Starting point is 00:50:38 get surgery and be someone else and move to a new school if you do this. Yeah, the UK just banned hormone blockers. Yeah. Yeah. It's definitely, that's the one thing they've been actually pushing for a long time that's actually conservative. But the thing is, it's clearly a social contagion.
Starting point is 00:50:55 There's absolutely no way it's not a social contagion. Strangling subway dancers or? Being trans as a child. But the thing, the difference is, you're around my age, I'm 37. When you were getting picked up in school, when you had an embarrassing incident, when you did something, it left in school that day and you went home and it didn't follow you. And now with the phone, it follows you. And a big part of that is, you know, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:51:20 I think that there's no escape. There's no escape. It literally follows you. In Australia, they just banned apps for people under 16. I think we should. Yeah. Apps under 16. I think you should only be allowed to have a phone, a smartphone after 16.
Starting point is 00:51:34 And before that, it should be a dumb phone. You know, I do a lot of things with school boards because I run the 1776 Project Pack. We do school board elections. And the number one school board trend that's happening in schools across the country, and this is blue and red, is the banning of cell phones in classrooms. It's happening across, it will happen in the schools. But the dumb phones are fine
Starting point is 00:51:53 if all they can do is make phone calls. Are they texting? As I said, just phone calls. Texting is still... Do they have a rotary phone? There's no reason to have phones in schools. They have phones that they make for kids where it can dial and it can't make text. Really? I didn't know that. I thought it was just texting.
Starting point is 00:52:09 There was an e-ink phone that came out a while ago that all it does is make phone calls. And they target it for elderly people. But I think they should need to... Parents, you can lock the phones, you can get them, and you can disable it, but the kid's going to figure out how to get them. Well, you know what? The problem is the parents are oftentimes in the classrooms, one saying, no, you have to but the kid's going to figure out how to get them. Well, you know what? The problem is the parents are oftentimes in the classrooms once saying,
Starting point is 00:52:26 no, you have to have my kid's phone on because I need to get a hold of him at all times. And it's this mass anxiety by parents, which is nonsense. Did you hear that story of the mother who got arrested because her 11-year-old was walking to the bodega? Yes. What's going on? Let the kids just go do their thing, man. When you realize
Starting point is 00:52:41 how much more dangerous the world was when we were growing up in the early 90s versus now and the paranoia compared to, and before that what Gen Xers grew up in in the 70s was like, it was far more dangerous. Go outside and don't come back until the lights are on.
Starting point is 00:52:57 Yes, I was going to say, when I was, 30 years ago, my parents were like, you're grounded from inside the house. Push me outside and close it. When the lights come on, come home. My mom would kick me the F out. Like, get out of here. I'm trying to do something. Come back later. I'd get on my bike and then I would ride around to my friends' houses and then when the lights came on, I'd ride home and then I'd come home and we'd have
Starting point is 00:53:13 dinner or something. Yeah, but it's remarkably a much safer world than it was 50, 40, 30, 20 years ago. And you would think that it's massacres are happening on every single block, the way that people are treating children. And that elongates childhood. There was a great book called Generations, I forget the author's name, Gene Twiggy, Twiggy, whatever her last name is. But it talked about how people are children well into their 20s now and have a child mindset.
Starting point is 00:53:41 So a 25-year-old now has the life experiences of a 15 year old. And I have some relatives like this who are in their early 20s who I mean, I did more at 16 than they did at 21 and they have no ambition to even do that, which I think is part of the breakdown. Going back to the story of Luigi Mangione, look at his life.
Starting point is 00:54:00 The dude's institutionalized his whole life. And I don't mean like in a health care facility or something. I'm saying he wakes up, goes to school as a little kid. Then he goes to school as a teenager. Then he goes to school as an adult. Then he gets out and he's like, what is this? What is this? What is that? He has no idea what's going on. A 26 year old for hundreds of thousands of years of human development, a 26 year old would be building their own house with a bunch of kids. Now they're, I just finally got out of school and never had a job and I'm 26. That's insane.
Starting point is 00:54:27 Did he never have a job? I don't know if literally he didn't, but he was an Ivy Leaguer who went to school and got his- And was a valedictorian too. So you think he'd be running a company by now or founding one or doing something. He has no work experience. Yeah, it's odd.
Starting point is 00:54:39 It's really, really odd. Also, Matt, he gave his valedictorian speech, which now imagine that was like your valedictorian was like, where are they now in the 20-year reunions? Just look at the current state of how kids are being raised and let's project that out 20 years. No, 100%. People do not have that. People made fun of millennials beyond belief because we liked avocado toast.
Starting point is 00:55:00 And imagine we were too much like children. I love avocado toast. It is great. People lost their minds because of that but anyway they lost their minds over avocados but that was millennials being I guess young until we were 30
Starting point is 00:55:17 alphas it will be until they're in their early 40s do you think we can switch it back kind of like steering back towards the... There was a story about how the number of... There was a story about the number of wealthy white Americans who are going to colleges down, which I thought was very, very interesting.
Starting point is 00:55:35 And I think that maybe people, if they have the opportunity to do something else, are taking it and that will... Taking a level of risk is part of growing up right we we divorce people from risk that makes them children forever when you have everything decided for you so maybe by not going to school maybe sitting there and having a risk of like i'm going to start a company i'm going to make a job i'm going to do something something for myself um maybe that will make them grow up i don't know but that would be part of it where you sit there and say uh you
Starting point is 00:56:03 know i think divorcing from social media is part of it. Kids need jobs. Yeah. That's why we can't let robots take over everything. Kids need jobs. Like mowing the lawn. And a couple of years ago I said kids need jobs. And we were talking about there was some bill that would allow kids under the age of 16 to work for like 12 hours at certain jobs or whatever.
Starting point is 00:56:21 And the left lost their mind. I know. I told that. Yes. They were like you could work at like a Chick-fil-A forfil-A for, I guess, 20 hours a week, 24 hours a week, which is a lot. It was for 14 and 15-year-olds. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:31 And they're like, child labor. And I'm like- How old were you when you had your first job? Nine. Nine? Yeah, my family owned a coffee shop. Oh. That's right.
Starting point is 00:56:40 And kids need jobs. Before that, I mowed lawn and raked leaves. You'd get a rake. You'd go to the house. You'd knock on the door. Can I rake your you'd go to the house, you knock on the door, can I rake your leaf for five bucks? And they'd be like, yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:56:47 Yeah, we used to shovel snow for 20 bucks at people's houses. That was like, when it was good snow season as a kid, you're like, we are making bank right now. I was delivering newspapers
Starting point is 00:56:56 in a Vulcan PA at six with my brothers. Now kids are sitting around playing video games, going to school, and then they are 22 and they've never had a job before. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:57:04 And they look up to Bernie Sanders who also never had a job. Wait, that's true, and then they are 22 and they've never had a job before. And they look up to Bernie Sanders, who also never had a job. Wait, that's true, right? Yeah. And his wife made a university go bankrupt, which I did not think was possible. His wife's university did go bankrupt. That's based. That's based. I guess.
Starting point is 00:57:19 I don't think she meant it. I think it was like, whatever her intentions were, the outcome was good. Yeah, and he has three homes, and he's a millionaire. Only in America could a socialist make so much money. Well, he stopped pointing at millionaires, too, as soon as... Yeah, yeah, yeah. As soon as he became a millionaire, he dropped
Starting point is 00:57:35 the word millionaire from all his speeches. Really? Yep. He used to go, the millionaires and the billionaires in this country. And then he became a millionaire, and he started saying the billionaires. Really? I did not realize that he dropped millionaire from his little verbiage. It's just billionaires now.
Starting point is 00:57:49 And I was like, Bernie, look, there's a difference between a millionaire and a guy with $999 million, okay? Like, you're allowed to say the millionaires. If you're 60 and you bought a house in a good neighborhood in Austin or whatever, and now it's worth $3 million, you're a multimillionaire.
Starting point is 00:58:02 But you could be, you know, a car salesman and just be like, you know, making a decent living but not be wealthy. The right investment. Yeah, the right investment will change everything like that. Yeah, but these socialists have no idea what they're talking about. Hence, they are defending Neely and they defend the bad guys in every – But isn't it always true or most of the time true that the biggest radicals in the history are always from the wealthy class they're never usually poor people i mean that's that is
Starting point is 00:58:31 true that's been all over europe too yeah so it would make sense that this luigi kid who never apparently really worked that much even though he went to school and got a big degree and was clearly very very smart would have uh would have been radical. Maybe in engineering. He's not, listen, yes, his manifesto was nonsense. Maybe he knows how to engineer. I don't know. I don't know engineering. So what am I supposed to sit there and think?
Starting point is 00:58:51 It's like when he said, we have the most expensive health care in the world, but our life expectancy is super low. Yeah. I was like, oh, my God. That's just stupid. Like, I bought a car from the car dealership, and it was too expensive. My gas prices are so high. It's like, those are not correlated things. He did.
Starting point is 00:59:05 He mentioned obesity. No, right? No. But a great point brought up by Jeremy Kaufman is like if the standard of living and labor costs are higher in the United States due to our wealth, health care will be comparable. But it's funny how like health care is like the one thing that they have this belief of. They don't blame the doctors. They don't blame the doctors. They don't blame the nurses. They only
Starting point is 00:59:32 blame the insurance agents. When it's really the government because it's the most regulated industry in the United States and subsidized. I remember in 2006 I needed health insurance or something and I bought it on a website for $250 or $300 a month. And now that's almost impossible to do for less than $1,500 a month.
Starting point is 00:59:56 What I pay for in health insurance for me and my employees is crazy high. And it wasn't before Obamacare. There was no way it was this high before Obamacare. Obamacare. There was no way it was this high before Obamacare. Obamacare screwed everything. As much as like people, it was supposed to fix all the problems and all it did was it allowed the insurance companies to write their own rules
Starting point is 01:00:13 for the health insurance industry. It made prices skyrocket. The argument was prices are going to go up, then they're going to come down once people start buying into the system and stuff. But they never came down because the most subsidized and most regulated industry in the United States is healthcare. I made this argument multiple times this week already. If you get rid of the subsidizing it, there's no reason for health care to be attached to your job you should have the money obviously to pay for health care but you shouldn't have to have a job to be able to
Starting point is 01:00:49 go to the doctor yeah well that was all our thing fcr was the one who pushed for health care and jobs to be connected because no sorry he didn't push it when he was president because taxes were so high companies offered health insurance instead of raises yeah we talked about that last night too but the the the argument that it should just be free is BS. There needs to be a market, and that's the only way prices are going to go down. Maybe I'm wrong about this, but didn't
Starting point is 01:01:14 the number of insurance agencies diminish since Obamacare? Yes. It is almost like the military where the number of, not the military, but the people who supply military supplies has decreased substantially over the last 20 years. It's the same thing that happened with the banks after Too Big to Fail. There used to be multiple smaller banks, and they all got eaten up by a handful of bigger banks.
Starting point is 01:01:35 You don't want the government to go into an industry and have massive regulation. You have to let the markets do it. And when people do things that make their business fail, the government can't come in and save them. Yeah, my buddy Ann Coulter always said tarot card readers had a lobby. They would be covered by insurance. Oh, absolutely. Let's jump to the story from The Daily Wire. The first thing I want to say is we routinely cover the demise of CNN and other cable news networks. Amen. And I wanted to make a joke about beating a dead horse, but it feels a little too close
Starting point is 01:02:05 to literal in this regard because CNN is dying. But CNN falls to Food Network Hallmark channels in ratings battle following Trump victory. The ratings are so bad, they're now beneath Hallmark.
Starting point is 01:02:18 And wow, the evening lineup averaged a total of 367,000 total viewers between 8 to 11. In comparison, Fox averaged 2.5 million. Understand, that is not key demo. That's overall 367?
Starting point is 01:02:33 Yeah, their key demo was 67,000. Brutal. Guys, we have more than that watching the show on average live, let alone the total viewership of the show. People's tweets have more viewership. CNN hosts get more visibility from tweeting their stories than from being on air, which is also crazy while they're all making seven figures or in the case of Anderson Cooper.
Starting point is 01:02:52 This is actually pretty crazy too. Fox News in comparison had 280,000 viewers during the key demo. And that's pretty nuts because we, as well as a lot of other shows, are absolutely crushing that. The scary thing is to understand while an episode of Timcast IRL may end up with about 600 to 700,000 viewers every night,
Starting point is 01:03:12 it used to be that the top shows were getting five to 10 million in the key demo. But now it's completely decentralized. So there's some good there and some bad there. The good is that decentralization is largely healthier for a media diet. But it also means that my concern right now is that Fox, Disney, Comcast, Comcast, everyone's like, oh, they're dumping all these big channels, right? Yeah, but Comcast isn't going to sit back and go, guess we lose. They're going to say, how do we buy into the space on YouTube? And then if they come into this space, you know, I look at what we've got here. And I was talking to friends about I'm like, we're like an indie indie label we're like we're a privateer the east india trading company
Starting point is 01:03:47 is around the corner when they come in and claim the high seas we're gonna get crushed so right if you could watch if you're a big fox news fan and you can't afford cable but you can afford a youtube and they just did the ads on youtube if they could figure out a way to make that easy to watch it without a subscription you we could 1000 per. Jesse Waters would have tons of viewers. Well, they do. They put the segments up, but that's not just that. Now, the segments,
Starting point is 01:04:09 if you could watch it live on YouTube, if you could watch it. Well, it's on YouTube TV if you're paying the subscription. Right. What I'm saying is Fox is going to say, Jesse, we're launching your YouTube podcast, and we're going to put $20 million
Starting point is 01:04:22 in your first year behind it in marketing because we are reclaiming the space. And then MSNBC is not going to just die off. Comcast is going to go to YouTube and say, we think you guys should have a prominently displayed featured channels bar when people go to youtube.com and we'll pay you $100 million a year to be on that. But think about the top 10 biggest conservative talents in America right now. How many got their start from Fox News? Tim? Yeah. It was a joke. I thought he was asking a question.
Starting point is 01:04:51 Fox News produced probably seven of the top 10. You're saying Tucker? Tucker, Megyn Kelly, Glenn Beck. Tucker was on a bunch of channels before Fox News. But he became a conservative titan when he was on Fox. Megyn Kelly, Glenn Beck, you could go
Starting point is 01:05:08 down. What? Is Coulter one of them? No, but it never worked for Fox News. But like O'Reilly, O'Reilly's podcast is gigantic. Is it really? It's huge. It's very big. I don't know if it's in the top 10, but it's on the list of like the top 50 of political podcasts. Last time I
Starting point is 01:05:24 checked. Well, top political podcasts or top podcasts? It's up there. But the point is... I think he's medium. Okay. Well, whatever. He's mid. The point is that if you could do that, if you could go directly before they go
Starting point is 01:05:39 independent and they could get, I don't know, a cut of it, yeah, there's no reason. Yeah, he is not a top podcast at all, actually. Okay. Which one, Bill, we, there's no reason. Yeah, he is not a top podcast at all, actually. Okay. Which one, Bill, we're talking about? Bill? Yeah, he is not in the top 200. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:05:50 What is this? In news, he's number 42. Okay, that's what I saw then. In, yeah. But that's a pretty, like, news is a limited field. Right, but he's also been off the air for 15 years. My point is, is that how many talent comes out of the Fox News world? But out of the Fox News world, a lot of conservative talent comes out of that.
Starting point is 01:06:08 So before they go independent and they have the big enough audience to go independent, they can easily do that. Yeah, indeed. I mean, I don't know that Fox has produced that many of the big ones, but I mean they've produced the biggest of the big. They've produced a lot of big ones, but I mean, they've produced the biggest of the big. They've produced a lot of big ones, though. I mean, just look at what Tucker Carlson did after Fox News. That's like, he's probably the biggest person
Starting point is 01:06:33 that's come out of Fox News, right? Right now, yeah, but it's, I mean, yeah, yes. Right now, but the independent space is very young. You know what I mean? It's not like people have been doing this for 20 years about going on doing their own podcast. Yeah, for right now, him, Megyn Kelly's
Starting point is 01:06:50 huge. Ben Shapiro had a lot of things on there. Fox News definitely helped Ben Shapiro with his career. Charlie Kirk appearing on Fox News several hundred times definitely helped his career. A lot of people's careers have been immensely built. Crowder was on Fox News.
Starting point is 01:07:05 There isn't the same kind of boost from CNN Definitely helped his career. A lot of people's careers have been immensely built. Crowder was on Fox. Yeah. Tucker. There isn't the same kind of boost from CNN and MSNBC. No. Tucker is number eight in the world. When Jesse Waters used to talk about me being on CNN, more people had watched it from the Fox clip than from actually being on CNN. That was a regular thing. I never got hate mail while I was on CNN because no one ever watched the network.
Starting point is 01:07:23 It was the clips on Twitter. We are the 57th biggest. Nice. On Apple, we're not. 156, but for all platforms combined, 57. That's solid. Tucker, I think, is 36 on Apple. But Apple, actually, this is kind of wild.
Starting point is 01:07:36 When I first started, Apple was the big dog. Now YouTube is the biggest player in podcasts. Really? Yeah, YouTube is. And the ad dollars are all in YouTube now. It's wild. Why? Is it people because they have to watch it on camera or they listen to audio?
Starting point is 01:07:49 So video is heavily preferred now for the format. So obviously in the early days, you'd turn it on and listen to it and do other things. Right. But with the video option. Now you get the TV in your living room. It's called podcasting. For a lot of people now, it's just some people, when they have the choice, they'd rather watch a show like this with a video element to it. That's why Spotify added it.
Starting point is 01:08:08 Apple, they own the space and they really let it down. And ad rates are dropping on the audio side and video side is starting to dominate. It's pretty nuts what's happening on YouTube now. And that's why my concern is coming into this next year, we're all laughing going, haha, Comcast is selling MSNBC. And it's like, bro, Comcast is going to turn around and say, we're launching a billion dollar endeavor into the podcasting space. And they can walk into YouTube's executive office and say how much money to cut all of these independent players out and give us the premium space. We'll tell you this, YouTube, you have a guarantee from us that all of the shows that run through our network will
Starting point is 01:08:42 never violate advertisers and we'll get premium CPMs, which you get a cut on. And they're going to be like, deal. No longer does YouTube have to worry about demonetizing or dealing with some person saying a bunch of racial slurs. They're going to be like, yeah, we'd rather just cut a deal. So they're not going to have Joy Reid on. Yeah, probably not. I'm just kidding. My fear is, I don't know that it's guaranteed, but there is a strong probability that YouTube will easily give corporate interest benefit to the big networks who buy in because they already did in the past. In 2018, there was this fake news that was released accusing a bunch of different YouTubers
Starting point is 01:09:17 of being part of a nefarious network that was aligned with white supremacy. They claimed that this guy, Chris Ragon, for instance, who doesn't even really make videos anymore, he did video game and humor content, had collaborated with white supremacy. They claimed that this guy, Chris Ragon, for instance, who doesn't even really make videos anymore, he did video game and humor content, had collaborated with Richard Spencer. The two had never met. Didn't matter. YouTube lost its mind and immediately removed all of the channels from the recommendation algorithm. Instantly, every one of these channels that was either on the right or the left saw all of their channel recommendations turn into Fox and MSNBC or CNN. So if you were a liberal-leaning creator, YouTuber, and you make a video before 2018, you would see on the right side a whole bunch of your other videos. After this PR campaign and adpocalypse, it turned into nothing
Starting point is 01:09:59 but Fox News. If you went to Joe Rogan, it would be Joe Rogan and Fox News. And the autoplay is a big part of. Exactly. That was largely it too. When we would go into our analytics, you would see recommend. So here's a graph showing all the recommendations. And then this one day happened and it all dropped down from like 18 to like 2%. Wow. So I've seen them do this. And I tell you, I believe strongly when they're talking about Murdoch, the Murdoch family
Starting point is 01:10:24 wanted to be in the podcasting space and Disney. Comcast may nuke MSNBC, but what that really means is they're going to come to the space right now. And you've heard the liberal channel on YouTube screaming, why aren't we getting funding from this? The Democratic Party is going to reassess and they're going to say, why didn't our media mechanism work? And they're going to say, because people are on YouTube. And then they're going to look to these liberal creators and say, how much money do we have to pay them to say our message? And those people are going to take the money in two seconds. And they're going to go to YouTube and say, our network guarantees this, that, or otherwise we're part of MSNBC or CNN.
Starting point is 01:10:57 So, you know, it's safe already. If you go to YouTube and you search news, you're only getting cable to cable TV, YouTube channels. This is going to happen to podcasters in the next year or two, maybe three. But it's coming. And I think people got to be prepared, prepared for that. They're not going to allow. Dude, I am a a mixed race high school dropout from the south side of Chicago who, through sheer brute force, built a show by just working 16 hour days. And I guarantee you powerful interests are sitting there looking at me being like, this guy helped Trump win. Right. He was talking to moderates the whole time saying Trump is the guy
Starting point is 01:11:30 and he helped cost us the election. We need to shut out people like him. And I see that coming. Well, it's not even just people like you who are explicitly conservative, but what about all the comedians? I'm not explicitly conservative. Sorry, explicitly political.
Starting point is 01:11:43 I'm what I'm saying. What are all the comedian podcasters who never talked really about politics that much, who had Trump on their network? They're going to fall in line in two seconds. A hundred percent. These comedians largely refused to endorse Donald Trump until it became obvious in the public sphere that like with the Bud Light and Target thing, they said, we can see the writing on the wall. We're shifting over. The Democratic Party and the neolib, neocon establishment political forces are probably saying those people will fall in line if we can maintain a dominant, like a ubiquity in culture. Independent voices rising up and dominating. Trump being a weird underdog,
Starting point is 01:12:22 anti-establishment billionaire was weird. They didn't want him to win. But now he owns the narrative. He owns the popularity contest. They've got to reverse that. They're going to put billions into the space to make sure. And it's going to be really easy. They won't ban us. They're not going to go to YouTube and say, ban that guy. They're going to go to YouTube and say, we'd like to run a $100 million ad campaign. Then the only thing you're ever going to see is the podcast individual personalities that appear authentic because they were cast to do so. It will work for the average person to be entertaining. It will have substantially more marketing and backing. It will be more appealing to individuals getting into the space. And then they're going to have
Starting point is 01:12:58 bosses. And those bosses are going to say, look, we know you're deeply concerned about those issues right here, but we really do think this news is more important and they're going to push people in the direction they want them to go. Then you're going to get corporate press, orange man bad all over again, and it'll be YouTube. I think part of the CNN numbers and the MSNBC numbers also do with the fact that when Trump won the one period, but won the popular vote, and that narrative was taken from them that it was the Electoral College and they stole it from you, yada, yada, yada.
Starting point is 01:13:28 I think a lot of Democrats and progressives sat there and just were like, I need to chill out. I need no more news. I need to sit there and there's no major protests. There's no resist libs like there was in 2016. But they will be back. They will be looking for a voice. And if there is no Rachel Maddow
Starting point is 01:13:44 show the way it is now, there will be somebody for a voice and if there is no rachel maddow show the way it is now there will be somebody else who will sit there and do it for them in whatever platform they do political activism isn't done just because yeah no no exactly and when it comes to the left like they have they worked very hard to get the gains that they've made and they may have gone a little too far in the past 10 years or whatever but that doesn't mean that they still don't want all the stuff. All of the initiatives that they've started and pushed a little too far on, they'll back up a little bit and then they'll go ahead and start going again. I have, I was, so I have a sub stack called the National Population Letter. And I just wrote about this.
Starting point is 01:14:19 There is in the states, right, in 2017, right, when Trump won, New York had a Republican state Senate. Washington state did. A lot of states had, Connecticut was tied. They had a lot of, a lot of very blue states had Republican legislatures that held a lot of crazy, Minnesota. Pennsylvania did. Pennsylvania did, Minnesota did, Michigan did.
Starting point is 01:14:39 All of that was lost over the last eight years, especially in the 2018 wave. So the politics looks a lot crazier because in blue states that were already nuts, there was at least a few Republican control levers that all went away. And that's why it looks completely insane now. And that's why the politics, as you said before, will be even further because they have nothing left in any of these places. I have to ask you your expertise on this as we're in this subject. But CNN has been accused of trying to moderate by bringing on voices like yours for the period that you were on. And Scott. Five and one quarter episodes. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:15 Five and one quarter. So, you know, so CNN, their ratings are in the gutter. And what everyone's basically saying is that they're realizing that this echo chamber of leftist liberal worldview is costing them viewership. They have to moderate. So they seek out personalities like yourself or Scott Jennings. Yeah. Is that how you feel it happened or is that factually just like, yes, you're allowed to go on like specifically Abbey show, which is two on two. It's usually like three on one because it's the one other Republicans, usually a person who hates Donald Trump or like as a former Republican or somebody who is like basically like mentally ill at this point. And they're just like on the way out mentally. I've been on episodes like that. And and they the host is rooting against you. The host is
Starting point is 01:16:00 trying to shut you down. I don't think I ever really ever got a full sentence out on that show. And on the other show, too, everything is built towards, you know, you get the script of what you're going to sit there and talk about. And it's why Donald Trump is the devil, why he is Hitler and why all whites are racist. And you're like, OK, that's what I'm talking about. All right, let me get my talking points ready. And then like 30 minutes before the show, they said, actually, we scraped this and we're actually doing a completely different setup. And yeah, be ready. And you have, you know, 90 seconds to speak on every issue.
Starting point is 01:16:33 And we're going to interrupt you 30 times while you're doing it. Why do the show then? I mean, I thought it was fun. I mean, I had a blast. It was funny. It was fun because I got to sit there and say, yeah, to Van Jones. yeah, BLM was the worst thing that ever happened in the 2020 at the Democratic Party. I talked about the George Floyd effect, which was the first thing that ever went viral when Abby sat there and said it didn't exist. That was ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:16:55 Yes. And I sat there in a room full of race activists who said that they had never heard the term. And Abby, who wrote it for The Washington Post 10 years prior was like that's not true and she wrote it she wrote the Washington Post story she's just lying she just because it's not about truth it's about narrative yes so to sit there and to break the narrative a little bit more and be really emboldened and breaking the narrative joke aside the episode that I was kicked off for the last part of that episode was supposed to be like a how accurate is the media featuring Brian Stelter, who is like and I was just like I was like breaking on hives going there. I was hot walking into the chair and I was like, I'm going to sit there and be like, Brian Stelter, you're a liar.
Starting point is 01:17:38 Like you lie all the time. I was like, I'm the last show on CNN. I know I'll never get cast back. Not for that reason, but for the beeper reason. But I really went in there saying, no, this is a complete lie. But I wanted to sit there and fight the narrative over certain things and let it not be dominated. Is he evil? He's evil. I will say that he is an evil man.
Starting point is 01:17:57 I think that he knows he is lying and he is doing it because he's got nefarious. I think he loves being on camera. I think he I think he I met him. I did a show with him. He loves, think he loves being on camera. I think he I think he I met him. I did a show with him. He loves, loves, loves being on camera. I think that's a big driver for him. But this is the guy who brought Stormy Daniels lawyer and was like, you should be president 150 times.
Starting point is 01:18:18 And he's about accuracy in the media. And why is the media have no integrity? And they can never look at themselves. And they have these bloated salaries. Yeah, they have a few good people at CNN. I love Scott. I've never met him, but he was great. Sir Michael Singleton is great.
Starting point is 01:18:32 There are a few people. None of them have their own shows. None of them have their own platforms. We all live at the behest of liberals who sometimes are nonpartisan. But you're only allowed to say certain things. And that's when they sit there and they're like, this is unacceptable. You're unacceptable for this. You're unacceptable for that. And they shut them down. Shermichael
Starting point is 01:18:52 said, I think he said something like, biological sex is real. Or he said a man in women's bathrooms or whatever he said. And he said they were like, you're transphobic. The guy accused him of being transphobic right then and there. There was that segment where the guy's like, stop.
Starting point is 01:19:07 Oh, I won't hear it. Stop. Yes. That was the episode. That was the segment. Yes. Yeah. And then Abby made an apology on the part of Shermichael.
Starting point is 01:19:16 Yeah. You are always in control. You're allowed to run in that lane. And so sometimes it's great because you get to fight against it. This is why they're all dying though this is why they're all dying because to be honest if you went on a podcast and you had some dude basically trying to defend you know terrorism or whatever was going on and then you made the beeper joke every podcast is going to be laughing and they're going to be like oh we got to book that guy the cable network's like get
Starting point is 01:19:44 him out get him out they could and it's like wait oh, we got to book that guy. The cable network's like, get him out, get him out. And it's like, wait, wait, wait, hold on. A lot of comedians asked me on after that. Oh, did they really? Yeah. But it was like, it was a quick-witted and funny response to the constant barrage of you're a Nazi. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:58 And then they immediately feigned victimhood of, you're saying I should die? You're a Nazi from a guy who called non-Muslims animals all gays were pedophiles or non-Muslims were animals and horrendous things about the Jews and then in his like British accent as he's bloating his chest they're saying
Starting point is 01:20:16 you know Donald Trump uses the language of Joseph Goebbels I'm like fuck off excuse my language but like I mean like you probably sat there and used that same language your whole life. I mean like, give me a break. And that's why I kind of like lost it. You know the story of Amber
Starting point is 01:20:32 Duke? Yeah, Amber's a good friend of mine. She walked off the show. Yes, for that episode from when I was on, yeah. She was called a Nazi by uh, that Looney Tune. Whatever her name is. Yes. And that, this lady. Yeah. She loves that. I call it that. And she was like, I'm not going to sit here and be called a Nazi. And then, you know, the long
Starting point is 01:20:49 story short of it is, I guess she's no they no longer have that woman on the show. But Amber works for the network. Right. And they still I think Amber said on your podcast that she was that the other lady was booked on another show over Amber who works for the network. Yeah. That is crazy. But they feel, I don't know. I don't know why they give people those platforms. And,
Starting point is 01:21:11 you know, I've done peers, Morgan, and sometimes he has people on. I'm like, I, is there an insane asylum? That's just a rotating like a door.
Starting point is 01:21:20 You know, I, you ever see that movie invasion with Nicole Kidman? No, but I can get the, I can get the gist from the title. Astronaut comes back to Earth infected by some fungus. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:29 And then when you go to sleep, your hormones while you sleep activate the fungus and then turn you into a hive mind alien creature. Like you look human and everything, but you're like emotionless. And they vomit on other people to convert them. That's what it feels like is happening. But how many of these people have ever worked either in A, real journalism, or B, political work that talk about politics? Very, very, very few. They have no expertise in the issue. They are trying to create viral moments to create the dot-com economy and really milk it. And that's why – as long as your business is built on feigning outrage or making people angry or anxiety-ridden, you have to go further every single time.
Starting point is 01:22:09 There's no end in sight. So they're the epitome of talking heads. They don't have any sources, but they don't have any foundations. They don't have any sources either. You've got to write the first time. Any foundations against them, and they don't know what they're talking about, just talking in small points. Talking heads used to be people who had a job, and now they're like 60, or they're retired, or whatever. They wrote a bunch of books, or whatever.
Starting point is 01:22:34 That's not these people. These people are like 23, and I have an opinion to give. Like, okay. But they're building their entire economy on either being very charismatic or good looking and knowing absolutely nothing and having no work experience behind it. So it's very concerning if they get massive audiences. And that's what they said about the right with Trump. They said, oh, look at those people listening to him. But at least they were funny and they were interesting.
Starting point is 01:22:59 A lot of work comedians. These people are saying crazy nonsense and getting people i think like emotionally and mentally disturbed i mean that's been the kind of the ammo for 10 years look at the reaction to trump getting elected in 2016 where is that lady now who went on her knees and screamed no that's exactly i want to know what happened exact image that was but i i want to know where is she now like that's something but like what you're talking about, that's exactly what the media has been doing to the American people forever. The idea that Donald Trump is a Nazi or that he was anything other than an aughts Democrat,
Starting point is 01:23:37 like Democrat 90s and aughts Democrat, that's exactly what he was. And everyone knew it. Oprah Winfrey and all these people, Whoopi Goldberg, and he went on The the and everyone knew it oprah winfrey and all these people whoopi goldberg and he went on the view and everyone is all he went on wendy williams and did like relationship advice they all loved him oh it's so good it's so good if you want to go on youtube it's so good yeah but they're also their economy was that he was an evil you know hitler-esque person or a smart evil maniac or a fat orange retard yeah it was and it was like living in both worlds at the same time and
Starting point is 01:24:05 so they were just it was just the media continuously dumping this down people's throat and when society is is now at the point that we talked about earlier where everything is safetyism and and you know children are children until they're 25 26 or whatever you're going to have people freaking out because the worst thing that's ever happened to them in their life is the election of Donald Trump. But look how many books there were. Look at the Washington Post became financially solvent. The New York Times made tons of money. MSNBC and Sanders ratings in 2017 were gigantic.
Starting point is 01:24:39 They loved it. You know, this expression, if God wasn't real, we'd have to make him up. That expression. If Donald Trump wasn't real, we'd have to make him up? That expression. If Donald Trump wasn't real, they would have to make him up. He was the best thing that's happened to many, many news stations. I think for the average medium person who's not a news junkie, not a professional, not someone who listens to Joy Reid and says, wow, she's got it all going on. But the average person who's just concerned because they're hearing news all the time that's saying this is a nutbag or whatever the case is. I think that they're, I think
Starting point is 01:25:07 part of the thing that the media did not anticipate is their exhaustion from eight years of it and the lived experience that, oh, we didn't go to World War III. Lived experience. Oh, lefty, you're welcome. The lived experience of Trump being president, yeah, of Trump being president and being like, oh,
Starting point is 01:25:24 you know, we didn't go to World War III. There was no camps. Yeah. The results of the first Donald Trump presidency were very good for most people. And then you had the you had covid, which was actually very bad for everybody. And the the argument made by the left was we can handle this. The argument made was Donald Trump is the reason why it was all messed up and we can make everything better. And we're going to have this 82-year-old. He's got all the ideas.
Starting point is 01:25:52 And everyone suffered because of the policies of the Democrats and the inflation. Everyone suffered under that. All of these policies that the Democrats really, really had been championing, people saw the results and then they're like, wait a minute, Donald Trump was better. And I don't care that you're telling me that he's racist. I see him talking to people and he's doing it in his ham-fisted, silly comedy. It's Donald Trump's way, but he doesn't seem like he hates black people. He doesn't seem like he hates black people. He doesn't seem like he hates, you know, people just because they're brown.
Starting point is 01:26:28 He doesn't seem like he hates women. Like, look at his chief of staff and all these people that he's appointed. People are seeing that the lies from the left about Donald Trump are just that. Well, and how many young liberals were all upset because there was no Wi-Fi in the camps that they were going to? That would probably trigger the hell out of them. That's the only thing I'd probably do. Well, that is funny, though, when you see all these lefties who are cheering on Luigi Mangione, assuming he is. They say something we don't know.
Starting point is 01:26:53 And I'm just like, it is kind of funny, but it actually isn't surprising that people who are really dumb don't understand that they are cheering for a world in which they would suffer because they're dumb. Because most people presume that prosperity is the norm. They don't realize how one it's not normal in most of the world. It's very not normal in the history of the world and how fragile it is. When you listen to people make the arguments against our healthcare system, they're always comparing it to an imaginary system. That's perfect. Right.
Starting point is 01:27:25 The argument isn't against, they're not comparing it to Canada's healthcare system or the healthcare system in the UK where there's actual tangible negatives. There are bad things that happen. I'm not trying to say that the US system is better or cheaper or whatever. Or improvements can't be made. Exactly. But there are trade-offs and if you had single payer here in the u.s there would be things that would make them unhappy about that so the idea that oh our system has these flaws which it does and then
Starting point is 01:27:55 they're comparing it to this perfect world lawless system is is something that's typical of of the left when they're comparing our existing capitalist system with property rights and stuff, comparing it to the utopian communism where nobody ever has to work. It's not real. Yeah, exactly. But that's what I love when they sit there and say, oh, it's white men who screwed everything up. You know, if we had a world without white men running places, we would be X, Y, and Z. Which authoritarian country are you talking about right now?
Starting point is 01:28:24 Because it's not anyone that I do not... Point it on the map. Find the country with no white men in any executive experience, maybe with the exception of Japan or South Korea. What non-authoritarian country are you talking about right now? Or one that has as much prosperity or freedom as we do?
Starting point is 01:28:43 Zero. But it's a product of- It's a narrative to make white people feel bad about those because the average person has never thought of that before or seen it on the outside picture. It's the product of our prosperity. Right. We as a nation have to, you know,
Starting point is 01:28:59 you have to teach the younger generations about these things, but we have these urban liberal types do not understand what the world is at all and they think they're really smart i think they're smarter than you these people would not have like look i i i don't think anybody would ever make any liberal who wants to make the argument that this statement is going to be wrong will be laughed at if you took your average run-of-the-mill conservative and your average run-of-the-mill liberal and dropped them both isolated in the middle of, like, the Yukon Territory far north, which one has a higher chance of survival? I mean—
Starting point is 01:29:34 Definitely not the Lib. Definitely not the Lib. Literally no question, the conservative, to any degree. You go to a rural area. You drive around here. Most people, 99 percent, Trump supporters. Not all of here. Most people, 99% Trump supporters. Not all of them. There's like an anti-Trump flag somewhere.
Starting point is 01:29:50 Mostly. What do they have? They all have chickens. Yeah. So they get fresh eggs in the morning. And I'm not saying that's the most profound thing in the world. But yo, did you ever see that video where the woman is like, so my friend came over to my house. And she was like, Kayla, why do you have lemons in your fridge?
Starting point is 01:30:05 Oh, the lemon tree one. And she goes, because I sometimes use it to cook. And she goes, yeah, I know, but why do you have store-bought lemons in your fridge? I've never seen this video. And she goes, because I cook with them. And she goes, Kayla, you have a lemon tree outside. And she goes, yeah, but I have the ones from the store to cook with. And she goes, why don't you just eat the lemons outside?
Starting point is 01:30:21 And she goes, you can? Is this real? Real video. This was a real video? Yeah, man. 100%. I mean, I hope it was a bit, but I don't you just eat the lemons outside? And she goes, you can? Is this real? Real video. This was a real video? Yeah, man. 100%. I mean, I hope it was a bit, but I don't think it was. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:30:30 But this is true. I would love in every school if they taught a class, like in eighth grade or high school, called like the end of the world class, which is about like when a civilization collapsed and what got it there, and just different ones across the world because people don't know how
Starting point is 01:30:46 Easy and fragile and unbroken things are and they just don't repair tell you what bothers me is that bothers you Tim what bothers me is when people come and We have chickens and they and and I'll be like if you grab the eggs and they'll wash them I've learned I don't wash it anymore People don't understand. I'm not. Why would you wash an eggshell? Because they look dirty because they were on the ground and there's poop on them. But there's no, but you're not eating the eggshell. So people wash them off because they're like, oh, this is gross.
Starting point is 01:31:15 And then you wash off the bloom and they spoil. You can put them in the fridge. They'll last for a long time. But it's like you take the eggs. They're poopy and they have dirt and you leave them. You're not eating the shell. Leave it alone. Wash it when you're going to You're not eating the shell. Leave it alone. Wash it when you're going to eat it, but you don't wash it beforehand.
Starting point is 01:31:27 My point is, it's not just that. That I'm being silly about. But I have had people be like, we get fresh eggs right from the coop, and they'll be like, what do we have to do to eat them? And I'll be like, break it open and eat it. And they'll be like, you got to do something to them? And I'm like, no, you just break it open and eat it. What do they think happens?
Starting point is 01:31:43 Because the eggs are all white. They think they're cleaned and bleached and prepared. People, I tell you, man, when on our other property in Maryland, it kind of sucks when we moved because there's fruit all over the place. We have pawpaw. We had cherries. We had apples. We had grapes. And we had wine berries.
Starting point is 01:32:00 And I would go out frolicking like Homer Simpson in the land of chocolate, chocolate grabbing all the berries black berries we had wild blackberries black raspberry i can't tell you how many people that would come into the studio and i'd be like check this out and i'd be grabbing it all and they'd be like can i can i eat it and i'm like bro it's an apple take it off the tree and bite it look i've never done that before i'm like wow man they believe these are not even necessarily liberal sorry it's not even necessarily liberals it's people who live in cities don't know these things and again i'm not pretending i'm a survivalist i'm just saying based off the fact that i know you can take an apple off a tree and eat it because i watch the deer do it right and yeah and and and that urban liberals are less likely to understand how to find water you put the society ends, you know, the cities,
Starting point is 01:32:45 the water turns off in three days. Conservatives have wells. It's wild. Yeah. I was just saying that we've all been taught that you, you don't think unless you live out in the area where there's fruit and there's plants out there that you can actually, you don't have to clean off your,
Starting point is 01:33:00 your eggs. You don't have to. No, I mean, I, I, I just would never. It would be pretty. Operation is required. Yeah. You see it pretty in the markets. You're like, okay, No, I mean, I just would never... You see it pretty. Preparation is required.
Starting point is 01:33:06 Yeah. You see it pretty in the markets. You're like, okay, what did they do to get there? I don't know. That would be like cleaning off the skin from the orange. It just would make no sense because you typically don't eat the... Have you seen a fresh chicken egg from a coop, brother? Yes. It's covered in chicken crap. Okay, but that's
Starting point is 01:33:21 still... I could see you wiping it off so it doesn't drop into. Okay, but that's still... I could see you wiping it off so it doesn't drop into the pan, but I don't see why you would wash it. Like watering it down. They take a cloth and water and they wipe them off. Yeah. You don't do that.
Starting point is 01:33:35 You're not scrubbing them. No, I'm talking if there's like bird crap falling into your pan, you don't want that to happen. That's the only thing I'm talking about. My point is, it's not meant to be disrespectful. It's that they think preparation is required for a lot of these foods. I walk out and it's pawpaw
Starting point is 01:33:52 season, like beginning of October, and you grab it off the tree and you just rip it open and you can eat it. I'm not a big fan of pawpaw, by the way. I'm of the assumption that 70% of the public is either immensely ill, obese, or completely useless. This doesn't shock me. Maybe my of the public is either immensely ill obese or like completely useless so i i just i mean this doesn't shock me but and maybe my 70 is low but i mean yeah this is this checks out this absolutely
Starting point is 01:34:12 checks out though they'll be washing eggs before eating them do you guys wash potatoes before you eat them from the store do you go put it in the end i hate making potatoes well there's there's a couple you're supposed to look at it if you get a fresh potato you you actually want there to be a little bit of dirt on it. This is actually a source of a lot of B vitamins and when people start washing it off, it actually is a contributing
Starting point is 01:34:29 factor to malnutrition. Some think. I don't know for sure. But, you know, that's a little bit more nuanced, I suppose. Do you wash your chicken before you cook it?
Starting point is 01:34:39 I usually take off the feathers first. I kill it and then I, yeah. Okay, but you don't wash the skin. The skin. Oh, no. Some people wash it. I saw those memes. Yeah, people wash the skin. No first. I kill it. And then I, yeah. Okay. But you don't wash the skin. The skin. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:34:46 Some people wash. I saw those memes. Yeah, people wash the skin. No, and I have not. Wash the chicken. Oh, yeah. No, I don't wash the chicken either. Certain culture does, apparently.
Starting point is 01:34:53 Yeah. I'm Italian, so I put olive oil and garlic in literally everything. I cut off the skin. Oh, yeah. And literally everything has garlic and olive oil in it. Fat and skin. My Froot Loops, garlic and olive oil. All right.
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Starting point is 01:35:28 10 p.m. So you don't want to miss it. It's fun. And you as members get to call in and talk to us and our guest. Here we go. We got the empress champion. It says, hello there. So this is alleged this alleged mothership thing, a balloon. This is the second time our airspace has been violated during the Biden administration. I'm assuming it's a boat of some sort that is launching these vessels. But honestly, I have no idea. I mean, it's more than the second time if there's been multiple sightings of the Earth. There's multiple.
Starting point is 01:35:57 It's got to be like in the water. UAV things, you know? Yeah. I don't know. Quantum Strange Quark says radar should show where they're coming from. If it's from a mothership off the coast, why hasn't the Navy destroyed it? Something doesn't add up. Yeah, Jeff Van Drew could be wrong.
Starting point is 01:36:09 Yeah. That's easy. That is a good point, though. If there's a boat in the middle sending things out, they could just seize the boat. Right. That's why it's kind of like, how's that? Unless it's underwater, maybe. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:36:21 And it, like, pops up and launches a journal and goes back down. That'd be scary. That would be terrifying. I do think it's worth like the U.S. finding out though, like the military finding out where these things are. Do you think of all countries Iran has that capability?
Starting point is 01:36:31 I don't know. Considering their scientists are being killed like once a year, it's like the purge of scientists. I don't know if they have that ability, but maybe they do. It's like the highest, it's the job with the highest mortality.
Starting point is 01:36:41 Yeah. Iranian scientists. It's like comedians and then like Iranian scientists in that order. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like the Iranians kill their own comedians, but it's foreign adversaries killing their scientists.
Starting point is 01:36:50 Yeah. All right. JRG Project says, the drone story reminds me of Ace Combat 7's Arsenal Bird that deploys AI drones. Time to fire up my F4J Phantom 2. The old school fighters are the best. No idea. I don't know. East Combat was a fun game.
Starting point is 01:37:09 Acularis says the Pentagon denied that the drones are from Iran. Aliens? That proves it. They're aliens. Got them. There's no other explanation and that's it. That's it. Matthew C. Kirchner says, well, alien invasion is the next 9-11, they said. Who's they? Though. It'd be funny if it was aliens. You know, because we were 9-11, they said. Who's they? Though.
Starting point is 01:37:29 It'd be funny if it was aliens, you know, because we were supposed to get aliens a few years ago and they never came. Then they claimed that aliens were going to come last week and they didn't. Aliens are always going to the places that no one wants to visit, though. I just, there's like, there is zero chance that these people. Why are every video of an alien spaceship like taken out of a phone from 2003? Like every single one is literally a phone from 2003. Like, every single one is literally a phone from 2003's video quality
Starting point is 01:37:49 of an alien spaceship. Because it got a zoom in on it, maybe? I don't know what it is. It could be zoom. It could be zoom, but every one of them? They look like jacks, apparently, too. I don't know. I'm not a big believer in the alien.
Starting point is 01:38:08 Well, Pinochet's Helicopter Tour says radar requires things to be at a certain altitude. Oh, there you go. There you go. Mechanical Mercenary, we did read this one, but he said their manned and supposedly pivotal aero units doing military testing can't shit our own pilots down. I think there's a possibility. That seems likely. There was a funny story where uh people reported seeing ufos and the news unironically i can't remember which outlet said unironically said the sightings
Starting point is 01:38:31 come just 70 miles away from an advanced aerospace technological base for the navy and i'm like what so it's completely explained and we know exactly what it is guys duh yeah it's like that uh it's like that video from mississippi where they saw the leprechaun what was oh where was it just like there's nothing in the tree and they're pointing at it Duh. Yeah. It's like that video from Mississippi where they saw the leprechaun. Oh, was it just like there's nothing in the tree and they're pointing at it or whatever? The greatest internet video ever made. There was a viral trend on Twitter a long time ago where everybody started posting videos randomly of military vehicles on military personnel in the streets, military vehicles driving through cities, trains carrying tanks, and they were all in on this decentralized gag where they would find any photo from anywhere in the country,
Starting point is 01:39:13 post it, and claim it was one town, and it went viral, started trending, and there were people who actually believed there was this big military operation happening in some town. Yeah, it doesn't shock me. Those were the days of the internet, man. Wild West. Those were the good old days of the wild west internet
Starting point is 01:39:25 now it's all boring all apps no websites what's going on huh I've heard people say that web based things are coming back and they want to see an end to apps because it's become ridiculous how many apps you have to download yeah you remember when you used to type in your facebook password to pay
Starting point is 01:39:42 your mortgage it was literally like you had to click on everything either their gmail password or a facebook password like what why i was never like i never did any of that stuff with okay facebook or gmail i couldn't understand how to do yeah that was very frustrating moment yeah i wouldn't want g google or facebook involved with my mortgage payment at all ever it's it's plenty for me to be dealing with the bank I'm all set that's enough it's kind of where they have the third party of someone like that to have involvement into your payments yeah absolutely not that and you have to find all the parking lights in order to sit there and like you know get into your bank account I'm like what is
Starting point is 01:40:20 this really stopping everything well that was just that what they wanted that because they were teaching because Google was teaching AI. All the CAPTCHA stuff was teaching AI. What were they teaching AI? They were teaching AI how to identify things. Every time you solve the CAPTCHA, it was actually being recorded. It was all the same. There's a stop sign, a train, a bike, a car.
Starting point is 01:40:42 It was teaching AI to identify. Sidewalk. The crosswalk was one, I boat. It was teaching AI to identify. Sidewalk. The crosswalk was one, I remember. It's teaching AI. It's helping you or it's everybody helping to teach AI to identify pictures and stuff. Do you think that that's part of why like Elon bought Twitter was to make it like to teach Grok like people's likes? Yep.
Starting point is 01:40:59 You think that Grok, I think that most of the AI stuff that Tesla is doing or information they get, I'm sure that Twitter is a massive, massive database. So he has access to all the tweets and stuff like that. But most of the teaching of the AI comes from full self-driving. All the Tesla cars that report back to Tesla, they all are helping to teach the AI. All the full self-driving and all that stuff goes back to Tesla, and they use that to teach AI. One of the first arguments was that X is the best form of communication between a Mars-based civilization. That if there's an effective means to communicate that doesn't require an immediate back and forth,
Starting point is 01:41:48 the 20 minutes it would take to send a tweet is no issue because the way you communicate on Twitter is like thought, and then it just goes out. So that's why... So I was communicated to and from Mars, basically. Yeah, basically, if someone lived on Mars and was tweeting, you'd have a constant connection with them, despite the fact it took 20 minutes to send in.
Starting point is 01:42:05 So like a Martian would be like, do we use the hard R or no? Yeah, exactly. That's like what the Martian or Martian. We're not on Earth, so you can't cancel us anyway. All right. Another YouTube channel says, a few months ago, I was driving at night and saw three car-sized drones flying single file lower than I would have expected. Kind of freaked me out near folsom ca well that's that proves it's it was bigfoot awesome isn't that being at the prison
Starting point is 01:42:31 yes folsom prison bigfoot flying around in spacecraft that that's you know bigfoot was an alien illegal too dark elhan says gloucester county nj fire has radio traffic from a medevac helicopter about drones in hammond Town, New Jersey. Yeah. The report is that they were blocked by it. And this helicopter is trying to move. And then the drones were swarming around. So they couldn't.
Starting point is 01:42:53 But the drones are probably the same. Almost the same as the helicopter. Yeah. They're SUV size. Yeah. Yeah. That's. That's why it's weird.
Starting point is 01:43:00 They're saying they're drones. Just call them. I don't know. And there's no way that they had a pilot inside them? I don't know. Well, someone said they did. Yeah, because if they had a pilot inside them and you shot it down, then that's an act of war, possibly.
Starting point is 01:43:12 I mean, so I could see why you wouldn't want to shoot down a piloted plane. But also, they're so... They should be a different name then. Like, if they're drones, because drones you don't think of. I mean, I've seen them do pesticides before, and they're not drone-sized. They're like the different name then. Like if they're drones, because drones you don't think of. I mean, I've seen them do pesticides before, and they're not drone size. They're like the smart car size, but they're not, you know, big SUV size. So they get big.
Starting point is 01:43:32 People are thinking that thing that drops the Amazon box off. Yeah, they're definitely not tiny all the time. I'm waiting for one of those boxes to like kill the family dog because they dropped it out. Like a heavy box. I'm waiting for that to happen on video, and that will be the end of those things flying around for a while. All right. What do we got here? Sam T says, guys, come on.
Starting point is 01:43:48 You are all intelligent and know your history. Nothing happens in the U.S. skies without the knowledge of one of the agencies running on a black budget. What does it say? F-117, B-2, U-2 were all born there. The tech is only 40 years ahead. The tech is 40 years ahead. I mean, yeah, I think we're fucking America. That should be our logo.
Starting point is 01:44:08 I mean, that should be our motto underneath, like, entering the United States. Yeah, we're fucking America. I know. We would see it. I would think that we have the radars and everything detectable to see anyone coming. I think that they know. I think that they know.
Starting point is 01:44:24 They're just not saying. I tend to remember okay Brian M says why no talk about Israel expanding its empire in Syria and beyond Christians will be stomped what's Israel? I've never heard of that place is that prominent in the media perhaps?
Starting point is 01:44:41 anyone? the chat is going to be on fire now these small irrelevant countries we are not familiar with I'm sorry I have no comment Perhaps anyone, anyone. It's going to be the chat is going to be on fire. Now, these small, irrelevant countries we are not familiar with. I have no comment. I don't know. We talked about Syria the other day. I don't know what more we have to add. The U.S., Israel and Turkey have been launching strikes in Syria. Syria's government collapsed. It's going to get really, really bad for the people who live there? I guess there were some strikes. Israel struck Syria's navy and took it out, took a large portion of it out. And people are like, oh, you know, why did they do that?
Starting point is 01:45:13 Blah, blah, blah. It's like, look, man, if Syria has actually been taken over by former al-Qaeda terrorists and they're going to restart ISIS, the Islamic State, if it's actually going to be that, do you really want them to be able to project force in the Mediterranean? I don't think anyone wants that. And as everyone knows, Israel has never done anything wrong ever. Absolutely perfect country, the bastion of good nature. You kick them when they're down, too.
Starting point is 01:45:40 I also don't know enough about Syria to sit there and make informed conversations. I know the WNBA and Syria are almost on the same level for me, so I'm not going to really be jumping into this one. Yeah. All right. We got Legama says, what if Altist has been talking about the revolt of incels for a while now? Yes, he has. Indeed. And technically his counter, we were wrong, it probably is closer to like seven.
Starting point is 01:46:05 Yeah, I heard yesterday's combo. Rudyard Lynch is a YouTuber, What If Altist, and he made a bet. His name is what? Rudyard. Rudyard Altist. Okay, I don't know that.
Starting point is 01:46:14 Rudyard Lynch. Okay. And his YouTube channel is What If Alt History. What If Altist. He said that by April, 1,000 people in the United States will be dead
Starting point is 01:46:22 due to domestic political violence. Okay. I don't agree. Only 1,000 people in the United States will be dead due to domestic political violence. Okay. I don't agree. Only 1,000 people? At least. Okay. And so he said, so this is before... People have been killed after the Trump election. There was that guy in Minnesota who did kill his whole family, but like... Right. And then there was the one who killed her dad. There
Starting point is 01:46:39 is the CEO, obviously, politically motivated, so we believe right now. And then there was a woman was killed in... Someone swatted Marjorie Taylor Greene. The bomb squad crashed into the car, killing politically motivated, so we believe right now. And then there was a woman was killed in someone swatted Marjorie Taylor Greene. The bomb squad crashed into the car killing the woman, so that counts as a politically motivated death. So it is like seven. And the response from a lot of people is either it's ridiculous to assume that many people are going to die.
Starting point is 01:47:00 Others are saying wait till January 20th when Trump starts rubber stamping these examples. When is the date of this 1,000 number? By April. April. So it's like five months. Or did he say end of April? I'm not sure if he said by April.
Starting point is 01:47:11 There's between four to five months for this 1,000 number. It's seven right now. Look, man, if there's 900 dead on April 1, I'm going to be like, look, man, maybe it's not 1,000, but it's looking pretty close. Not only that, I was saying if 200, like he may lose the bet, but we understand his point. Right. Exactly. He's at Donald Trump's going to win. Historically, we can see the parallels as to what kind of what's going to happen between these ideologies. And he thinks that civil war is is likely. But people misunderstand what civil wars are.
Starting point is 01:47:41 They think American civil war every single time. And I agree with him on this point. He said, are there going to be standing armies from various states lining up against other factions? No, of course not. But Obama will go off in Chicago. Yeah. But they didn't happen in 2017. It's a different world. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:55 I think you overestimate how many people like, okay, how many people play sports versus watch it and say we won when they're eating like a box of they're eating a box of Cheetos. That's actually a really good point for a Civil War. No, because most of them are not going to do anything. You're right. They don't need to be.
Starting point is 01:48:12 The sport is played by a small amount of people. I don't think that... I think you've overestimated the laziness of most people. I think you overestimate the requirement of population to destabilize a country. You need a small amount of people to have a revolution. Or anything. You don't need. Yes, that is correct. In cities like New York and Washington,
Starting point is 01:48:28 a very small percentage of the population make up a majority of homicides. That is 100% true. But civilization doesn't fall apart afterwards. No one said it's falling apart. Didn't he say civilization would fall apart? No, civil war. Oh, civil war would happen?
Starting point is 01:48:42 But his point is... So it would be like more more like northern ireland than the american civil war that that would be like a civil a heavy civil strife period academics believe we are in a civil strife period already so this is left and right different academics and then they blame each other like the left is the right fault right says the left right but uh so either we resolve the civil strife which has has happened in the past too, but if it escalates beyond this, then the academics – the scale is the period we're in now, which has – I think Stephen Marsh said civil strife is defined as 70 politically motivated deaths per year, which we exceed greatly. And that would be – What are we at?
Starting point is 01:49:20 Well above that. I don't know the exact number. Okay. I don't know the – yeah. Okay. Well above that. I don't know the exact number, but OK, I don't know. Yeah. OK. The problem I have with that assessment is that the politically motivated deaths are wildly disparate. It's like I understand if you are saying it's civil strife because you have the anti-abortion and pro-abortion factions and they're fighting and you're like 70 people died in the abortion conflict. That's going to bubble up. But right now, the politically motivated deaths are like, this guy's a sovereign citizen. That guy hates the Jews. This guy thinks- He's a black nationalist or a white nationalist.
Starting point is 01:49:50 Right, right. They're all different. Like 70 deaths in a nation of like, I guess, 50 million is a lot, but 70 deaths in a nation of 350 million is quite different. It's like for 70 for- I think it's us. That's what I'm us like that's okay when political tension gets this hot that we see this many instances okay but i don't know but again i don't know if i agree um however the idea of uh civil war is like a lot of people what they do is they look at the american civil war and they're like well when the states start lining up against each other and that's never been any civil war ever ever except for the States. So usually what happens is urban factions rise up,
Starting point is 01:50:26 they take control of urban elements, and that's all you see. Then a conflict arises between rural elements and the rural elements tend to cut off the urban centers because they can't survive. And then conflict starts popping up until it reaches ahead and then you get people going crazy. So if you look at like Syria, for instance, it didn't start as a civil war. It started with like 13 different factions of protest groups going around refusing and blocking streets. And then Assad starts shooting people. Then he says, but they were terrorists attacking us. And then what do we get several years later? ISIS, al-Qaeda. Yeah, but you also had a lot of other countries invested in that civil war. That always happens too. Yeah. You had a lot of countries sitting there and saying funneling arms and weapons and money, including the United States for a very long time. Absolutely. A component of what may happen in the United States is I think the true
Starting point is 01:51:12 civil strife period would be what Redyard is describing. If we see bombs going off in cities like Chicago or whatever, and we get to that point, I would say that's strife. And then if we see intervention on the part of any foreign adversary to a certain faction, now you're starting to get into that territory of where this could be a real civil war. But I'm not thinking that's likely anytime soon. I don't think that's likely. A thousand deaths is kind of like, you know, that's a wild prediction to make. But he bet a thousand bucks on it.
Starting point is 01:51:37 He did? I mean, it's not a lot of money either. He's fine. Is he like, is that a lot of money? Like we bet on a dollar, you know? Okay. Yeah. Let's grab some more.
Starting point is 01:51:47 We got Eagle Eyes. His articles I've read imply Luigi got surgery for his chronic back pain. The surgery went bad, which caused erectile dysfunction. Implication is he wouldn't have been an incel if it wasn't for the surgery. Born rich, but we don't know if he had access to that money. Hmm. That could be it. We could be misinterpreting the news
Starting point is 01:52:06 as he was in pain so he couldn't bang when in actuality, he said he had numbness. Did you just rhyme? No, no, no, this is true. According to the story, he had numbness down there and maybe he was saying like, uh-oh, I can't feel anything. He couldn't feel anything, yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:20 And he had no enjoyment of using a turkey baster, so. That's right. That's what he did. Gross. Maybe that's why he's mad. He felt the pain. Jeez. Man.
Starting point is 01:52:32 Shout out to anybody. Triton54 says, does anyone actually think a Manhattan jury will convict this guy? Which guy? Yeah, which guy? Gotta be. Oh, Luigi. Yeah. That's Luigi.
Starting point is 01:52:42 Yes, a Manhattan jury would convict that guy. Yeah, I feel he would. Yeah. That's Luigi. Yes, a Manhattan jury would convict that guy. Yeah, I feel like he would. Yeah. Unless they were from Hell's Kitchen or Staten Island. They would definitely convict that guy. If it was everybody from Brooklyn. Yeah. Certain pockets.
Starting point is 01:52:54 But if it's a disparate... I had to do jury duty in New York, and it was absolutely the meetings of every insane person you could possibly run into on a day in New York City. And that was, it was great. All the smart people get out of it because they figure out how. Well, one Jewish lady was like, she told me, she's like, I think if the cops do something, they're always right. And you know what?
Starting point is 01:53:13 I'll probably be in jail at the end of the day for saying that out loud. And I was like, lady, I don't, I didn't ask you for your opinions. I mean, like, I'm just here like you are. This is a really funny point. 30 JD says, Tim Ryan, it's ironic to say 25-year-olds have the minds of children, but my fiancé's second graders have racial, sexual, and physical minds of 25-year-olds. That's
Starting point is 01:53:31 really well put. Yep. That is really, really well put. No, but like, they have the life experience of that, and when does a brain fully develop? Is it 25? 25, yeah. 24, 25. Yeah, but I don't understand when children, when adults rather, look at kids like they are all knowing beings and we're going to just mess them up.
Starting point is 01:53:52 And you're like, no, they don't know what the colors are. Like, this is not Yoda as a little person. The thing is that a lot of these liberal activists don't have kids and have not interacted with kids. Yeah. And they've never had the experience of a parent saying shit. And then the kid starts going, shit,
Starting point is 01:54:07 shit. And they're like, oh, stop saying, oh man. Remember when JD told, JD was like, he's like,
Starting point is 01:54:12 when this kid was like talking about Pokemon while he's on the call with Trump and he's like, shut the hell up. And people were liberals like, how could he say it to a child? I'm like, yeah, seven year old.
Starting point is 01:54:20 Sometimes you say shut the hell up to them. Like it happens. It absolutely happens. Yeah. You know, kids, uh, you got to tell them to be quiet. I don't know what to tell you. But these are the people who don't have kids and never experienced kids. And if they do, they're the kind of people that will be in a restaurant with their kids screaming and they'll be like, your problem, not mine.
Starting point is 01:54:37 Or the people who negotiate with their children who are under five. That makes me. And you're at a friend's house and you want to tell them, you need to do something about your kid because I'm going to kill myself of being around. I have never disliked a four-year-old so much in my life. If you ask them, how do you want to go to the car? No, just pick them up and drag them.
Starting point is 01:54:56 What you should do is, when you have a friend come over to your house and they bring their four-year-old and the four-year-old's acting up, instead of just making it awkward and saying stuff, just pull out a muzzle and a leash. Be like, this is a gift for you. You can deal with your child.
Starting point is 01:55:10 Yeah. Yeah, but you know what the problem is that liberals take everything literally, and so they're going to be like, Tim Pool thinks the children should be muzzled with leashes. They make legitimate leashes for kids. They do. They don't have to go around the neck.
Starting point is 01:55:23 No. They don't have to go around. If you go to the airport, it's a harness, and you can hook them up. And you get like 25 feet leeway or whatever, 10 feet, and it stops. We're freedom-oriented here. Why would you want a four-year-old 25 feet leeway? That's like a mass destruction. I switch it to 10.
Starting point is 01:55:38 Give them 10. I wouldn't ever do the leash thing, but I can certainly understand in an airport where it's very crowded, you'd be kind of concerned about it. But I think the problem is people have too much stranger danger phobia where they think the world's ending and your kid's going to get snatched. I get like, okay, that's not the problem. The problem is people who do not believe in any level of discipline for their child at any age. That is a far bigger problem i shouldn't be at it i've been at tables with people that i know and their kid is screaming at the top of their lungs and they're
Starting point is 01:56:10 just like just pretend it's not happening how like how am i pretending it's not happening you gotta get the water bottle and go i mean i grew up with the wooden spoon my mom loved my grandmother loved that wooden spoon i mean i think a spritzer bottle is more humane. It is. It sends the message, but it doesn't leave a welt. And you don't break the spoon on your person's head. They never broke the spoon, but yeah. Works on my cat. And the cat stops chewing on stuff.
Starting point is 01:56:35 Well, leather. I hear a cat likes leather. Yep. Oh, Allison told you about Seamus eating her purse? Yeah. I ate the purse. Yeah, the cat is chewing on all the leather. So he chewed through the purse strap and now it's duct taped back together.
Starting point is 01:56:48 Aren't cats fun? Everybody loves cats. Damn Seamus. Yummy. Yep, yep. We are launching a new coffee called Luck of the Seamus. Oh, nice. Yeah, it's for...
Starting point is 01:56:57 Seamus 1. Yeah, the purse... Well, no, it's Seamus 2. Oh, okay, Seamus 2. Yeah, but on the back, Seamus 1. So Seamus 2 is the cartoonist. Yeah, yeah. And so it's Freedom Tunes art, and it's an Irish cream. Why is Seamus Seamus? Why do we name the, Seamus. Yeah, but on the back, Seamus won. So Seamus 2 is the cartoonist. Yeah, yeah. And so it's Freedom Tunes art, and it's an Irish cream.
Starting point is 01:57:05 Why did you name it Seamus? Why did we name the cat Seamus? After our friend Seamus. Oh, okay. Seamus Coghlan, the cartoonist. Oh, okay. But actually, we decided to give Seamus the cat. The cat is Seamus 1, and the cartoonist is Seamus 2.
Starting point is 01:57:19 Got it, okay. And there's a Seamus 3 now. Seamus is very common with Irish people. I have Seamuses in my family, but I don't know ever anyone who's not Irish who names a family with someone Seamus. Well, we were driving in the car, and we had a name for him.
Starting point is 01:57:33 It was probably like Herman or something. And then I jokingly said, we should call the cat Seamus, and Allison laughed, and Seamus goes, you guys are bad friends. And then I was like, well, now we have to do it.
Starting point is 01:57:41 I was joking, but then Allison was like, no, we already call him Seamus. But I call him James now because I don't respect the Irish. If you don't know this, never let on that something bothers you. If someone's like poking at you. I don't think it really bothered. I think it was joking. But now I do call his name is James.
Starting point is 01:57:59 Like Mr. Bocas, our last cat, his name was Bucco. And then it turned into a bunch of different words until we ended up with his name being Bocas. All right. Yep. Mr. Bocas, right? Rest in peace. Yeah, Mr. Bocas, our last cat, his name was Bucco, and then it turned into a bunch of different words until we ended up with his name being Bocas. All right. Yep. Mr. Bocas, right? Rest in peace. Yeah, Mr. Bocas. It was funny because when he was dying, we called the vet,
Starting point is 01:58:12 and we told the vet that his name was Mr. Bocas, and they kept saying Bocas, and we were like, it's Mr. Bocas. I call my dog's name is Royal Tenenbaum after the movie character. Royal Tenenbaum. That's a long one, too. There you go. Yeah, one of my favorite movies, yeah. All right.
Starting point is 01:58:26 Corowag says, Rule 916D of the Manual for Court Martial says soldiers that follow orders they knew were illegal will be dishonorably discharged and criminally charged. We need this nationally as well for all levels of law enforcement.
Starting point is 01:58:37 Amen. Yeah, that's not a bad idea. It's a great idea. Yep. Just following orders should not cut it anyway. We got a correction sterling wilson says tim mugsy bogues didn't dunk uh spud webb was the dunk champ you're thinking
Starting point is 01:58:50 of oh yeah bogues is 5-3 webb was 5-7 let's shout out the shortest player and the shortest dunk champ in nba history nice uh great name drops so uh i did did quickly check bogues apparently did dunk in practice but he never did in an actual game. Likely meaning he had the capability to do it, but at a high-level play against other players, it probably wasn't... It was probably riskier to do and harder to do. So, there you go.
Starting point is 01:59:16 Are you fact-checking the Super Chats as they come in? Someone... No, they fact-checked me. What do you mean? No, but then you looked up and said who it was that he does dunk, that he... That he reportedly dunk What do you mean? No, but then you looked up and said who it was that he does dunk. That he reportedly dunked in practice. During practice, right.
Starting point is 01:59:29 Yeah. But not in any games. Noah Bass says, I started my first small business at eight years old, pulling trash cans every week. I charged 50 cents per can, making nearly 500 bucks a year as a little kid. I attribute that experience to my work ethic today. Let me tell you what my friends would do. We'd go to Aldi and when people were walking
Starting point is 01:59:48 out with their groceries, we would say, excuse me, ma'am, can we take that cart back for you? And they would go, absolutely. We made a quarter. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:54 Nobody cared about the quarter and they didn't want to walk back. They'd be like, yeah, take it. And then we'd collect quarters and we would buy packs of Pokemon cards with them. That's how you do it.
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