Timcast IRL - GOP SUSPENDS Primary After SCOTUS Ruling, Democrats DECLARE WAR ft. Theo Wold

Episode Date: May 1, 2026

Tim, Ian, and Elaad are joined by Theo Wold to discuss Louisiana suspending primaries after SCOTUS ruling, states rushing to redistrict after SCOTUS ruling, a Democrat deletes tweets bashing middle America, new footage drops of Trump attempted assassination, Area 51 hit by swarm of earthquakes, and leftists lose it over Trump shooting.   SUPPORT THE SHOW BUY CAST BREW COFFEE NOW - https://castbrew.com/ Join - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLwN... Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Ian  @IanCrossland  (everywhere) | https://graphene.movie/ Elaad @ElaadEliahu (X) Producer: Carter @carterbanks (X) |  @trashhouserecords  (YT) Guest:  Theo Wold @RealTheoWold (X) Podcast available on all podcast platforms! GOP SUSPENDS Primary After SCOTUS Ruling, Democrats DECLARE WAR | Timcast IRL For advertising inquiries please email [e-mail]

Louisiana has announced it is suspending its primaries for the House after the Supreme Court ruled that they had racially gerrymandered congressional districts. And now, Kathy Hockel is responding that New York will proceed and we're off to the races. We already had this big redistricting battle. Several states were already doing this, Democrat, Republican, everybody's blaming each other. But now with this Supreme Court ruling, basically every single state has an opportunity to make an argument they need to redistrict just before. the midterm elections. Now, some prominent Democrats say it won't matter because mail-in votes have already been sent out in many of these Republican states. What are they going to do about it? The ballots are already out. Well, Louisiana just said, so what? They've suspended the primary. They are going

to redraw their maps in the 11th hour to give the Republicans two more seats. And Democrats are pissed, but I don't see them complaining about Virginia. So nobody really has a leg to stand on. This is it. This is the game. Take your state, take your control. turn it into a 100% Democrat or Republican state, and then we'll see who wins. Oh, what's that? Republicans are going to win. That's right. Right now, if every state were to go blue and red purely, it would be a one-seat Republican advantage.

Not particularly good, but better than Democrats losing 30. If the VRA gerrymandered districts are redrawn, the Republicans can capture 30 seats. Now, here's what gets crazy. based on interstate or interstate migration, Democrats are already expected to lose something like 20 seats, some ridiculous number. You combine this with the VRA, and we are looking at the potential for a permanent Republican supermajority.

I mean it, super majority in the House where they're going to have upwards of 30 or 40 seats above Democrats. So this is, the Democrats, they've got to go full-scale warfare on this one. That's why Hakeem Jeffrey said maximum warfare. And he's proposing retaliation. Now, the funny thing is, he says, oh, yeah, well, Illinois, New York and California, and everyone's already like, you've already gerrymandered those states beyond recognition.

I mean, you can squeeze a little bit more out of California, but Illinois, I don't know what you can get to that thing. That's like trying to squeeze blood out of a turnip, but they'll try. And this is going to get real interesting. So we'll talk about that. Plus, big news. The DOJ has released surveillance footage from the third assassination. attempt, this individual surveilling the hotel, and then actual footage of him shooting

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Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Theo Wold. Yeah, great to be here, guys. Thanks for having me. Who are you? What are you do? Theo Wold, Trump 45 White House alum and DOJ, former Solicitor General of Idaho, and probably the best thing about me. I'm a dad to five kids.

That's absolutely incredible. That is the best thing. People got to have more babies. Yeah, amen. I've been hanging out my daughter all day, and she's giggling and sand. Asin. Career is, like, awesome when you're young, but then when you're in your older years, it's like,

okay, I already did it. Now what? Well, you do both. That's like supposed to be family, you know, for the second part of your life. You do both, you know? Do both. You look like a young man. When did you get started?

10 years ago. Wow. Nice. We had a honeymoon baby, and we've been going ever since. That sounds like the right way to do it. Yeah. Honeymoon baby. Yeah, totally.

Nice. Nice. It'll be good to have you because we're talking about all of this gerrymandering stuff and the lawsuits and states, and I think you can help us out with that. So thanks for coming. Thanks for having me. A lot of here is here, of course. White House correspondent here at Timcast, a lot of lia-hoo, it's good to be here.

Looking cleanly shorn. Sorry to interrupt you there. So it's all good. What'd you say? Looking cleanly shorn. You look nice. Thank you. Like a sense of shave.

Mustache is impressive. Thank you. He's trying to look like his hero, John Bolton. Oh. Well, given the circumstances, I figured I had to bring it back and come on strong. What's up, bros? Ian Crossland in the house. Good to be here.

Carter Banks. Carter Banks, also in the house. And let's go, Tim. Here's a story from the Washington Post. the Louisiana House suspends House primaries as red states face pressure to redistrict. Governor Landry issued the order pausing next month's primaries until lawmakers can approve a new map, which could help the GOP gain one or two seats in the state this fall. Now, it's not just Louisiana following the Supreme Court ruling.

Kathy Hochel moves to change the New York district map after SCOTUS ruling bans race-based gerrymandering. So I will say this. In the end, if you get rid of all these VR. districts. You're looking at 20 to 30 seats gained by Republicans. Combine it with the 2030 census, we are looking at Democrats losing an additional 20 or so seats. I mean, this news is apocalyptic for Democrats. Now, I will stress this with the news that, with the ruling from the Supreme Court, you got a lot of people saying, of course, that Republicans can gain a bunch of seats. But the truth is

Democrats can as well. If there's purple or blue-controlled states, they can just all. They can just argue, you know what, we should redraw our maps too, just to be sure. And if they have the political power, they're going to make that argument. This map is one of the most interesting. This is a map if all of the states maximally gerrymandered what it would look like. Now, to be fair, Maine probably could eliminate this red seed, but the argument for this map is Maine is fairly split. If you dilute too much of the blue, then you might actually just create two toss-ups. in order to create maximally red and blue districts, you end up with 217 Democrat to 218 Republican, and it will just be this.

No more, I live in a district, then there's mixed representation. It's literally just if your state is red, you're red. If state is blue, you're blue. And I really do love this California map that people are showing off because all it does is put like 30 districts in San Francisco. You see this? Every single district just touches San Francisco to make sure it's a Democrat district. and this is one of the maps proposed by Democrats to eliminate four Republican seats.

So what I will say is all of the news seems to be good for Republicans going into this midterm if they take this action. The question is, will they take the action? I mean, I think that's the crucial question. And it's the initial answer here from Jeff Landry is yes. I think he's already set this off where neighboring state, you know, K. Ivy in Alabama, her first response to the court case was, sorry, we've got some pay. federal litigation. We're not going to be able to do this. So the Gotland's thrown not just at the Democrats, but I think the other Republican governors in the southeast by Governor Landry here. So it's a big move. Yeah, I have a lot of thoughts on what's going on here. I don't know if you

guys have also mentioned maybe yesterday or earlier this week that Florida's also planning their own redistricting. That would flip four seats, I believe. Four seats that would flip to the GOP. You know, you have to imagine at the end of the day, if all these states go to their maximum gerrymander, as like your previous picture or map showed. You have to imagine all of this just becomes a wash and we just wasted a ton of time where these states probably could have been doing something better in past bills that affects their constituents' lives

in a meaningful way. But instead of doing that, they're clogging up their state government time with this. And I don't know. You have to think it's just a waste of time and resources. And I mean, people were fundraising based off of this. They were ballot initiatives in some states. and if all of this is just a wash, it just goes to show how.

Well, sorry not. I mean, two seats from Louisiana. Sure. Well, we'll have to see what will happen in the midterms, ultimately, if Trump avoids having the Democrats takeover. I will say, though, for New York's case, I think Kathy Hochel might be wrongfully optimistic. Back in 2014, the New York State House passed a constitutional law preventing gerrymandering from happening, and she actually tried to do so in 2022.

and the Supreme Court in New York shot that down. It would not them... Yes, but the new Supreme Court ruling creates precedent that can be used by anyone. Kathy Hokel can now argue they have no choice because they have to reassess the maps to make sure they're not racially gerrymandered. And then they can just argue, you know what?

This one is. They find a Republican district, too many Hispanic people, too many white people that can make any argument they want at this point. Yeah, and I mean there's seven Republican seats in New York that they could... squeeze out. Here's the crazy thing about the ruling is that what Alito said was the only guarantee you have as a minority is that you won't be, they won't use race as a factor in your district.

Now, let's say they end up redistricting in New York. Well, then someone files a lawsuit says, oh, no, they used race. They're just lying. And then it goes to court again to try and figure out whether they used race or not. And then New York says, no, we did it by politics. And he's going to say, then how come it's got a higher proportion of, you know, black and Hispanics than white people. So now what are they supposed to do? In order to avoid any challenge to the map, every district must be parity with nation-level statistics on ethnicity and race. That can't happen. That's also a very communist way to look at things. We are all the same. So what happens to Chicago, when they say this district is majority black, it's a racially gerrymandered district. So Illinois can't get really any more

Democrat. To be fair, some of the maps people have made a Illinois to make a Democrat. Every district has a thin vertical stripe that goes up and touches Chicago. It's the, yeah, they could make the craziest dumb maps, but I think those wouldn't pass. But they've already gerrymandered to oblivion to create Democrat seats. I don't know how they make more Democrats seats than they already did. Yeah, and I think the interesting thing in citing Chicago as an example is the Democrats are also in something of a political bind with one of their leading constituency groups here, because there's some

seats that you cannot reconfigure without sacrificing black members of Congress. And so, I mean, Democrats could go to maximally redraw Illinois, but you're going to lose some of those old school black Democrats, like a Danny Davis or someone like that, or Benny Thompson in Mississippi, for example, he's going to lose his seat. So I think, yeah, when you're looking at the Illinois map, look at this Illinois map. It's insane. But there's also going to be a lot of pressure on Democrats, especially in New York, to keep some of those safe black members of Congress in, some kind of seat, even if it's not a majority black district. Can we just talk about how insane that is?

That imagine, you know, Democrats come to you and they say, hey, we're going to make it so your district is all black people. And you're, and like, you're a black guy and you're like, but I'm a big fan of Thomas Sowell and the guy across the street is a communist who wants to vote for communism. How are we going to share a representative when our political values are totally different? It doesn't matter. You're both black. That's the Democrat strategy.

That's their ethos. that's insane. What brings you all together is not whether you understand, agree with or disagree with, it's your skin. That's what Democrats are saying with the VRA. I do think, I mentioned this last night. I think that it came from a place where when they were blockbusting and like all the rich

white guys would stage, take like 18 blocks of nice area and they'd say, no, black people can't move in or they wouldn't say it out loud. That's redlining, not blacklining. Redlining, thank you, thank you, redlining, redlining. And then they, you know,

blockbusting is when they intentionally do move black people into white neighborhoods. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. So, okay. So redlining. And then they would just turn down their applications. They wouldn't rent to them and things. And then so then the lawmakers is like, look, we have to make sure these people still have a voice on the outskirts of town. We can't let these people in the middle of town control everything. So I see where it comes from. But I think it's gone too far. Over decades and decades. It was always, always silly to say. What makes your voice is your race. That was always silly to say. Yeah, it was supposed to be your location. I mean, it's supposed to be where you are. It's not necessarily location. Geography does play a role, but it's economics. It's economic standing. It is industry. So what they do with these maps, I mean, let's pull up this Illinois proposed map.

To gerrymander, Illinois, make it all Democrat. This is the proposed map. I don't think anyone seriously can send this because we'd never get passed. But the people down here near, you know, let's go, let's go near East St. Louis, just south of it. They stretch this district all this is hilarious into Chicago. A guy who lives in Chicago and a guy who lives south of East St. Louis have very little in common economically, industrially. They're not voting for things together. So there's a proposed map for Louisiana after this gerry matter, which makes a lot of sense.

The whole coastal region is a district. Why? These people live by water. So there's seafood industry, oil industry. There's flood. Coastal erosion. So they're going to vote based on things. And guess what?

If you're a black guy and your neighbor's a white guy and next to him is an, is an Asian guy and next to him is a Mexican guy and next to him is a Indian paraplegic transgender Muslim. Doesn't even matter because they're all going to say, we have a problem with coastal erosion. Then they all go to a candidate and he says, I want to implement race-based policies. And they'll go, we don't care about that. We're all mad that our homes are sinking. That's what brings people together in terms of their interests that need to be represented

in Congress. When a congressman goes to the federal government says, my district needs money. with this map in Illinois, they're going to say, what does it need money for? And they're going to go, gay race communism? Is that representing any? No. But if you actually broke it down by, say, like, farmland, they're going to be like, we need funding for, you know, machinery subsidy, corn subsidy, or something like that,

whether you agree or not, they're all going to come together and say, our district, we all work in the same area, we have similar values, this person represents us, and they're going to go to Congress for us. If this map, this Illinois map were real, would that mean, that all the Republican voters then when they vote for their representative they have to vote for a Democrat? How does this work? Yes.

So I mean, no, no, they don't have it. It means that your Republican candidate will only ever get 30% exactly. Yeah. Only every 30% of what? Of the vote in your district. Yeah, I mean you'd have Republican candidates, but they'd be annihilated in the general election. But what if 60% of one of these blue locations wanted to vote

Republican? Notice, Ian, that each district is a thin strip that goes into Chicago. Oh, so this is just a color indicates the majority of the people in that zone are leaning. Yes, that's why it's all blue. Election map. And the middle one is light blue indicating it's probably 55% Democrat. So you'll never really get a Republican winner.

The idea is everybody south of Chicago on the far right strip going down, this strip right here, every single person from this point down is a Republican. But in Chicago, there's 200,000 Democrats. So when it comes to elections, the Democrats win the district every single. single time. So then if you just made Chicago its own zone and gave it like 12 seats or I don't know whatever that's what they actually do. Agriot proportion. Then you just let all the farmers have their

have their one representative. That's how it was in Illinois for a long time. Southern Illinois and they in the last redistricting eliminated most of the Republican agricultural base seats. So this is just a maximalist move for what Democrats in Illinois have already

done. I think Tim is right. You kind of look at it. It's like how much more can you get out of it? Because they've already done a version of this. Nothing as obscene as that. So here's Illinois now. And you can take a look at Chicago and you can see they've actually kind of done this. So, you know, why is the first district stretching this little tiny portion right into Chicago like that? What's the point of doing that to make it a Democrat seat?

So then you can take a look at Rockford. I love this. Rockford's up here and you stretch all the way around and down to Bloomington. What is this? It's because they want the city of Bloomington and Normandy. We call it Bloomington Normal. They want that to be in the same district as Rockford because it increases the amount of Democrats above 50% to guarantee they always win. And then my favorite, of course, well, the other one was my favorite.

This was my next big favorite. 13. Same thing. Slicing through rural Southern Illinois farmland to connect East St. Louis, Belleville with Springfield Decatur and Champaign Urbana to lump all of these tiny urban centers into one district. to justify a Democrat majority district. Because here's the reality. Outside of Springfield, this whole chunk, they got a lot in common with each other.

Not with Springfield, though. Same thing with all these cities. If they just broke these up, like normal blocks based on farmland industry, there would be no Democrat seats. They have already gerrymandered to oblivion. I mean, if they want to try and go ham with it and do something like this,

I'll never get through a court, but that'd be hilarious if they tried. Theo, what's your, I kind of guess, reaction to these hardball, politics and the escalation that we're seeing in it. Yeah. I mean, I think I look, I think Tim said this the other day where you take the Democrats at their word, which is it's maximum warfare as the speaker in waiting, Hakeem Jeffrey said.

And I think this gets back to the question of like, are Republicans actually going to exercise the will to maximize their advantage here, which is you got to understand what does the game look like now and the Democrats see what's coming, which is if you stop counting illegals in the census. If you actually eliminate race-based districts, these majority, minority districts, and if you stop some of the gimmicks that they played with election integrity rules in the 2020 and in some places in the 2024 election, a lot of the illegitimate electoral gains from Democrat, it just vanishes overnight. And then you tie in there, like as you mentioned, Tim, the great sort where you have people leaving places like Orange

County, California, and they're moving to places like where I'm at in Boise, Idaho, or they're leaving Seattle and they're going to places like Montana. A lot, we are, we are right now as a country sorting ourselves, sadly, I mean, this may offend some people, but we're sorting ourselves ideologically. Geographic hyperpolarization. But I see somebody in the chat, they said, Tim, the Republicans are doing the exact same thing. False. Let me show you. So this is 270 to win, and we can take a look at the new Virginia map, and you'll notice five congressional districts all in Fairfax County. They actually did. them mean. We were joking about Illinois. This is what they did in Virginia to eliminate four Republican

seats. They made all of them go into one urban environment where there's a high density of Democrats so that they could eliminate four seats. Now, I want to show you this. This is where the fight began. So I got a correction from last night. Check up to C. Naski in the Discord for correcting this. This begins in 2020 with the census. Following the census, Texas decided to redistrict based on the new population numbers and population movement. The Biden, DOJ filed a lawsuit blocking the 2021 redistricting, which was on time, arguing the new districts were racially discriminatory. Now, one could argue they are or they aren't, but either way, this fight began. When the Trump administration got in, one of the first things they did was

they dropped that legal battle. Now, for the first time, Texas was able to finish its redistricting. And thus they did. From the Texas Tribune, DOJ drops fight against Texas Pletka. political maps as Trump administration retreats from voting rights cases. The principal argument made by the Biden DOJ over racism was not even that they were eliminating seats to create new Republican seats. It's that it made existing Republican seats slightly more red, making them less competitive for Democrats. Again, they did not create new seats.

They made less competitive seats. For this reason, the DOJ froze via lawsuit their ability to redist. district. When the Trump administration got in and dropped the lawsuit, Texas was now free to drop a new map. This, and I incorrectly stated, many have been saying, was the Trump administration pressuring them to draw new maps mid-decade. Technically, that's true, but it's not the basis for why it all began. The Trump administration said, we're dropping this lawsuit and you've got several gerrymandered districts. You can't do that. Texas said, okay, now they were finally able to drop new maps. The Trump administration did make the argument they can't do racially gerrymandered districts so they needed to change. Then Democrats said,

oh yeah, and they started doing the same thing. Or I should say they started doing worse, because again, when you go to 270 to win, eliminating four Republican districts by putting five districts in one city is psychotic. And you can see they've done it. Democrats wanted to play hardball. Here's the truth. Both the Democrats and Republicans made the VRA play in 2020. The Biden DOJ made the move against Texas in 2021 when they tried to read. district triggering the legal battle targeting the Voting Rights Act. Over the four years of Biden, all of these individuals in these states were preparing for this. The moment the Trump administration backed off and the arguments had already made it to the

Supreme Court, every red state was prepared to launch their salvo. Now, Democrats have a plan. We'll just see if that plan does anything. I think the other thing here that's is missed is the opinion from Justice Alito, I mean, the Democrats in the far left, Mark Elias, and those guys are hyperventilating about this. But the decision doesn't say that Section 2 of the VRA is gone and obliterated as they maintain. It just says, as Tim noted a moment ago, you can't use race as the sole basis for drawing congressional districts. The old rules about it being compact, communities of interest, and as Justice Alito said, partisanship, all of those things can be factors for drawing seats. And I often say, this is a lot like the judicial nomination wars, you know, where, oh, we

nuke the filibuster, you nuke the filibuster. And when you go back and you actually do the archaeological dig on this, the left started this fight back in the Obama administration. If you guys remember all this push by Holder and Obama for the independent redistricting commissions, they did it in Arizona through a ballot initiative. They did it in California. And every time the so-called independent member, so you'd have like five Democrats, five Republicans, and then there would be one swing vote. Every time the independent ended up being a Democrat plant, for example, in New Jersey, where it was an independent commission, the member of that redistricting commission was a professor at Princeton who at the time was a registered independent. He's now running for Congress as a

Democrat. And the product of those redistricting commissions were maps that always favored Democrats and obliterated incumbent Republicans. So they were at this, again, a long time before Republicans got wise. And then the litigation started under the VRA for what we call covered jurisdictions in places like Texas. So the war goes back again, as many things do, to the Obama administration. I think it gets difficult when we get into the finger pointing of who started this. I actually think what you're referencing is going to be before what I even mentioned now, but Mitch McConnell blocking Merrick Garland. Yeah, totally. Even allowing a vote on that. And then I believe nuking the filibuster for

Supreme Court nominations with only doing a simple majority for Gorsuch and then also allowing Amy Comney Barrett to get in despite it being an election year which is the reason why he cited for not letting the Merrick Garlet vote

proceed to. I think Democrats would also argue that like they have a lot to point at and like if it's tit for tat then it's just going for sure but even look at that so the actual judicial nomination war start in the Obama presidency when he nuked the filibuster for appellate court judge nominees, and they stacked the D.C. Circuit, which is, you know, this. It's just, again, one layer.

Right. So it's like, yeah, you can look at Garland, but the actual story was when they put three Democrat nominees forward, when they knew they didn't have the vote, so they obliterated the judicial filibuster nomination process then. And so, like, I think, again, I don't want to, like, overindex on the Obama's the cause of all problems, but the redistricting war start under Obama. And I'll just note, what was Eric Holder's job when he left the Obama White House, when he left the Obama administration? He was the head of the National Democrat Redistricting Commission. The issue is you can go back.

It's a hat feels in McCoy's. It goes back to the Civil War. Totally. And it goes pre-Civil War. There was talk of Civil War in this country in 1820, and then it took 40 years because things were a lot slower back then with communication being a lot slower back then. You can trace back every tit for tat. West Virginia is a redistrict. A redistricting of Virginia.

Oh, West Virginia should not exist. One of the dirtiest things. You guys know how West Virginia came to exist? Yeah, it was this presidential fiat. We're just putting the unionists here and we're going to make it its own state. They, when the Civil War started, Virginia called up all of its young men to come fight and defend Virginia. Whatever you think about the secession is not the point. Nobody was here to vote.

The only people who stayed, they were like, okay, let's have a vote while all the men have left. And the remaining people voted not to go to war. Because they were like, I don't want to go fight. else went to go fight. When these young men came back, they found out they were in a different state now. And then Virginia filed a lawsuit at the Civil War saying, that's just Virginia. That's our territory. And they said, nope, that's a different state now. You don't get it. You lose your territory. Dirty centralization of authority right there. Oh, I mean, if you, if you go back to Obama started redistricting, then the argument's going to be made, you know, yeah, but the Republicans,

blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Did the Bush admin do much in the redistricting era? No, because I think one thing that people have missed as well in this national discussion about redistricting is the ability to use precision data tools both on micro-targeting and then also like the map analysis, that's totally new. And Alito mentions this in his opinion, which is you can get a map like Tim was showing on Illinois because you can literally run 300 different permutations through the software of how you are parsing individual houses and neighborhoods. And that just didn't exist to that level of precision until so Obama Obama starts redistricting but Obama's administration

also targeted the Tea Party and did a bunch of things like this and the argument they'll make is no this is the Republicans when they were in power they cheated and stole the election and then rammed everything through so as soon as Democrats came back in they said we have to make sure they can't do what they did again in 2012

because you had I'm sorry in 2000 because you had Republicans for eight years then Obama gets in and they said how do we stop Republicans from stealing an election again then you want to go back before that you'll keep going back in time nonstop all the way. Things were a little bit more chill in the 90s. But then you can go back to, you get back to, what was it, in the 50s, the incumbents all got purged.

You can go back to civil rights era and the Democrats are accused of, you know, switching or whatever. You go back to Jim Crow. Everybody's pointing at each other having done something wrong. General question. I know you're not allowed to draw districts based on race now, but what if they just say, no, no, no, it wasn't because they were black. It was because they were Democrat. I think that's the argument they made, exactly.

So then there's no districts will have to be redrawn at all, if that's the case. They'll just say, no, it was never about race. It was always about their political affiliation. Yeah, I mean, I think that one way of reading the opinion is partisanship is totally an acceptable criteria for drawing districts. It so happens, especially in places in the south, like there's almost a one-to-one between skin color and party registration. So, but I think if you were to say, hey, we just want a Democrat vote sink here. If you control the governorship and the state legislature, more power to you, you can do that. So there's a question I have right now in, you know, I think Mississippi has hinted they're going to redraw their maps.

For some of these other states, they've got, so let's look at the map real quick. Let me reset the map and then show you guys down here. These Democrat districts are presumed to be what's called VRA districts, these three right here, especially. They may be able to redraw one right here that will be Democrat. I believe this one right here is considered to be gerrymandered by race. Yeah, that's Benny Thompson's seat. Yeah. So what will be the basis under the Supreme Court ruling that the states will do it?

Will the governor just say, we're going to do it because the Supreme Court should have ruling? Yeah, I think it's what you mentioned at the outset, Tim, which is like you're going to have state governors who say, look, we've got to comply. We've got to comply with this new case precedent. And we're going to look at the, oh, oops, we've got, you know, Benny Thompson's seat is a perfect example of this. It's a little bit more compact than what you see in leftist blue states. But those are separate communities of interest. You go up north, you know, those are farming communities. It wraps in Jackson, Mississippi.

either the Capitol, which is an urban Democrat vote sink. So I think what Governor Tate Reeves or others will say is, hey, this is new law, and we are in violation of a Supreme Court ruling. We've got to actually sit down and redraw this. But without a challenge, can they just abruptly say it? Yeah, they can for sure. And I think Landry is showing you, you know. Let's say they don't want to.

Let's say they're like, we don't want to do this. What if someone in those districts file suit and says, I am in a district that was in violation of a that would trigger it, wouldn't it? Yeah, and I think that's the other part of this story is not all of this is going to play out this year. I mean, the maximum advantage that Republicans may ultimately get out of this is going to be next year and for the 28 election and probably for the 2030 redraw. And so I think the one takeaway from this week, both with the opinion from Justice Alito and what's already been going on with California and Virginia is the redistricting wars are here to stay because both parties

are now trying to lock in, you know, real electoral advantages. But again, as, as you said, Tim, Democrats are looking at a pretty apocalyptic future. I mean, we're looking at potentially like LBJ era 1960, you know, when the Democrats had enormous numbers in the House and in the Senate, there's a real possibility by the end of the 2030 census. When you're looking at 2032, Republicans could have anywhere between 40 to 50-seat advantage. Let's jump to this. This is from the Brennan Center. And this, They say how state seats in the U.S. could change after the next census. At the halfway point in the decade, newly released census data points to continued shifts in

representation after the 2030 census. So for those that are just tuning in, what we've been talking about and in the previous segments, with the Supreme Court ruling on the VRA, Republicans could gain reasonably 12 seats if they so choose. However, if every single racially gerrymandered district was erased, it's around 20 to 30 congressional seats. But wait, there's more. The census is coming up in 2030.

So this redistricting battle will not just be happening right now. In 2030, the prediction is that California will lose four seats. Texas will gain four seats. New York will lose two. PA loses one. Illinois loses one. Wisconsin. One.

Minnesota. One. Oregon, one. We see Idaho, Utah, and Arizona each gaining a seat. You see North Carolina and Georgia gaining a seat. You see Florida gaining three seats. And you see Rhode Island losing one seat, which is nuts. Because don't they only have two seats anyway?

So they're going to one. They're going to an at-large district. So this is going to be we've got eight, we've got eight, nine, ten. We've got 13-seat swing. And this is a 26-vote difference now because they lose 13. Republicans gain 13. Add in the VRA 12. We are looking right now being modest in the next four years.

This is going to be probably by 2032 when this takes effect if everything plays out. Republicans will have a 24-seat majority. Just built in without swing seats or any of that. And I think what's interesting here about this map is under the old reading of Section 2, the VRA, even some of those seats that California would lose and say Texas would gain, they're not necessarily going to become Republican seats because you're still going to have to draw majority black seats in Houston in Dallas. Now, with this Supreme Court opinion, those are basically you're transferring blue Democrat seats in California

to what will become. Red Republican seats. Right. So one of the one of the conversations that came up with the COVID exodus we saw. A lot of people were leaving New York and go to Florida. And now with all the weird tax policy they're doing, which is absolutely hilarious. Washington just was it Seattle. She just had bide all the rich people. The concern was if a bunch of blue people move to a red area, would they not turn that area red? In fact, no. So if you've got half a million people leaving Manhattan, the initial reaction. all the people said was, and this is first sort of thinking, well, 500,000 people are going to shift the makeup of another district. Yeah, but those 500,000 people are dispersing in different areas. Maybe 40,000 go to Connecticut, maybe 30,000 go to West Virginia, maybe 100,000 went to Florida. When those 100,000 enter in a district that is R plus seven, they only shift at maybe two points Democrat. So those votes are getting diluted, meaning New York's actually going to be worse off. The Democrats nationally,

not only are losing seats, they're losing urban concentration as people spread out. The people who are moving from California, Texas aren't going to the same city for the most part. Many might. But then it gets better because even the people from California move to Austin, they can just gerrymander Austin and say it's liberal. There you go. That's what I'm wondering about this. If it's legal to gerrymander by political affiliation, can't they run like an AI algorithm to see all the voter rolls, all the addresses, and then after the fact be like, we're going to draw, because we can't do it by race anymore, we're going to specifically draw

14 Democrat districts. And they're going to draw little snakes and they'll be totally legal because it's only by political affiliation. But back in the day, they didn't know people's affiliation until they went to vote. So you were building the district before you found out who was in it. Now you can know

ahead of time and pre-plan the district. It seems like the whole system is now malfunctioned. There you go, Ian. The map we showed in the last segment. This is exactly what you're describing. So this is if every state maximizes the argument being made here is that the end result of the gerrymandering war

is every red state maximizes for red, every blue state maximizes for blue. I think, and the two wrinkles here would be to maximize your advantage in redistricting, you got to hold a trifecta. You got to hold both chambers of the state legislature, except for Nebraska, and you got to hold the governorship.

So something like Nevada, you see that there. You got a red northern district based out of Reno, and then the southern, and the two seats there in the south, which are based around Clark County in Las Vegas. But if there's a Republican governor, it's going to be really hard for the Democrats in the legislature

to maximize those seats. It'd probably say 50-50 swing seats like they are now. The other thing, I think, what Tim was just laying out, the breadcrumb trail there leads to an obvious conclusion, which is this is why Democrats

are flooding the nation with mass immigration. Yep. Because the great sort that is happening, it turns out, even if every Yankee who leaves Long Island and moves to North Carolina,

is still an unrepentant liberal, it kind of gets washed out, and they don't actually pick up the real vote share. And I'll say, just as a footnote, we track this pretty closely in Idaho. And what we see actually is the folks who are leaving California, Washington State now with the imposition of the income tax, when they're moving to Idaho, they're actually shifting both the ideological window, but also the registration, more Republican. These are people who were sort of suffering under blue state policies, and they're like, I'm happy to be in free, free. Idaho. Now here's the best part. The end result of this beyond the midterm is any guesses? Electoral College. What is it? Electoral College. Well, yes, but after that, right? So any guess I'm

on what the end of all of this will be? If we take everything happening to its natural conclusion, and I'm not saying it happens in five years. Civil war. Oh, Elad, is that what you think? Come on. Wow. That's like saying the, no, that's what he was going for. Let me explain why. Let me explain why. as moderates in New York flee, what happens is congressional seats not only get broken up, but the existing seats become hyper-partisan left. So in a district, let's say you have Manhattan, and you've got a lot of conservatives,

let's say you have 36% who live in Manhattan. They're Republican. They know they're always going to lose, but when it comes, so they always vote Democrat. Like, for instance, my family was, I grew up Catholic to a public. public servant dad. And we lived in an area where it was like union working class guys, but my dad was a conservative, but we always voted Democrat. Why? Every union really does.

Well, what are you voting for? You're voting to lose? No, you go for the Democrat. It's going to, because there's one party. So as it happens. Primary comes up. Union family walks in and says, don't vote for the weird suit wearing commie. Vote for the working class rolled up sleeves Democrat. The primary was what really mattered. Well, those moderates, people like me, we've left. So now the primary happens again, and you've got Blue Dog Democrat rolled up sleeves saying we're here for the working class. But all their voters have left and all that's left is commies. So the commie wins the primary. Basically right now in every district, the primary is trying to sort by political party the boundaries and then finding the middle.

It's not necessarily intentionally how they do it. But what happens is you go to a district, the furthest left you go, you've got hardcore tanky communists. And the furthest right you go on the Democrat Party, you have like moderate libs who have. Trump. So the candidate who wins panders to both the most to generate the most amount of votes. Eliminate the moderates. That moderate guy could only get 20% of the votes he used to get. The communist now panders to the socialists and to the communists and now you get a communist member of Congress. This is both geographic and governmental hyper-polarization. With these seats moving, you will see more staunch Republicans in Congress and more squad members

in Congress. You will also then have states ideological opposed to extreme degrees like Oklahoma banning abortion out right and Colorado legalizing abortion to the point of birth. The end result of this is you will have states with things that are legal that shock the conscience that bleed over between each other. You will end up with, and I'm saying this as a joke to make the most extreme examples, gay race communist by mandate in, you know, Colorado and the handmaid's tale in Oklahoma. And then eventually they start fighting with each other because these ideologies will clash because there's proximity. The hyper-polarization, I don't know how you break it up,

but what we're watching with internal migration, as well as gerrymanding, redistricting, look, if you live in Virginia and they just took away your district and they're putting a Democrat in charge of where you live, a lot of people are going to say, I don't want to live in a place where the Attorney General said my children should die, and they're going to try and trans my kids. We should consider moving out of the state.

You're going to see a lot of people move to West Virginia. Indeed, which is already 86% Trump supporting. I recommend it. Another potential future that I've been thinking about lately is that, you know, the two-party system may change. It may be that like the Republican Party splits in half and the Democrat Party splits in half and we have a four-party system for a short period of time. How and why? Abraham Lincoln got elected. How and why?

Good question. I don't know if this redistricting thing would tolerate it. I don't disagree with you. I don't necessarily agree, though. but I do want to, to your point, in agreement, in agreement, if you have geographic hyperpolarization, it wouldn't be unquestionable to think that in a place like West Virginia, you have someone like me, an exile from Illinois or from New York, who was like, these people have gone nuts. So I come to West Virginia and I say, firstly, I don't want to interfere what the locals want to do.

I'm here as a guest. I will build a life here. I hope that you respect my voice, but I also don't want to trample on. your traditions and what you've built here as long time residents. But you will then get the far right element. I put that in air quotes, meaning staunch hardcore local will form a right wing, and the moderate right wing will form the state's left wing. So basically, when you say four parties, imagine you get a big cluster of southern states that are just deep red. But within that, you've got the MAGA and the neocom. Now they're arguing with each other. You've just described Idaho.

That is the politics of Idaho. The transplants who've come in are hard right. And the old guard sort of rhino establishment is sort of the moderate. And the fight is often for the swing Democrats who participate in the primary. They register as Republicans. And I think one thing you'll see in places like Mississippi is you might actually end up with some victories for the neocons because those black voters now, I mean, the game theory just it plays out where like, well, I might as well participate in the Republican primary. That way I can get a slightly less detestable form of a Republican congressman who may be more interested in catering to my interests and my vote. So it may reduce the likelihood of getting hyper-partisan Republicans in Congress.

But I think Tim's account for what's going to happen, blue states is exactly right. Once the moderates are gone and you've over-indexed on ideology for drawing the districts, you're going to, I mean, you're already seeing this in places in New York with the Jamal Bowman race a couple years ago. Yep. You're going to see the moderate Democrat just totally. annihilated in the primary. It's like you were saying in Idaho, you've got the moderate Democrats that are basically in between the hard right and the old school Republicans. In New York, you had Republican seats that were considered to be kind of toss up moderate. When the moderate New York

residents left, all that's left are Orange Man Bad and Communist. So when the primary happens, that moderate Democrat who tried to hold things together to compete with a Republican, he's gone. They don't need it anymore. They're 60 percent socially. now. It's squad all the way, baby. So back to your point, Ian, about saying four parties, the part where I'll disagree with you is, technically there will be four parties in that there will be a hard right and an old right, whatever you want to call it, but they will all be unified against the other. So the country is going to break up into this silly map right here. And then when it's up happening is this chunk is completely at war with this chunk. And I mean

figuratively. When it comes to national level politics, all of these people are going to be like those people are so far removed from what we believe. They are evil dangerous. We're right at the point Democrats, Republicans call each other evil for a variety of reasons. We're already at the point where Democrats want to trans kids. Republicans don't. Democrats want abortion to birth. Republicans want to ban abortion. So the extreme ends are there where it's night and day. There is no more. Can we compromise? It is these people have pushed abortion to the point. of birth and we don't want abortion at all. That's not stopping. We will get to a point where it's even further than this. You know, when we're watching the news out there before the show, we got four

channels on one screen and you can watch MSNB, MS Now, sorry, and CNN and Fox News at the same time, and you can see the bifurcated reality in both. And it is insane. MS now can't go 10 seconds, is not saying the word Trump. And this is what's crazy to me. Criticize Fox News as biased. They talk about a bunch of different things. Even CNN talks about a bunch of different things. I would argue that Fox News and CNN are left and right.

CNN has left live. Fox News is right conservative. And MS now is psychopath cult, Antifa lunacy. You watch CNN. And I'm watching CNN. And they're saying things like the war in Iran has led to an increase in gas prices. were joined now by, you know, an expert in foreign policy. And he says, well, the Iranians, their strategy is going to be this.

And I think Trump is making a big mistake here. But when you look at what you're, and I'm like, okay, like, obviously this is a war. Trump's involved. I got no problem with it. You turn on Fox News and they're saying, look, there's a planet's short term pain for long term. You turn on MS now. Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, nonstop, just Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump is reckless.

He's dangerous. And I'm like, it's not even news. It's literally just, they. You know, I got to be honest, guys, I'm going to launch a new channel and we should do this. Elad, here's a, here's a plan. Let's hear it. The channel is just a 24-7 live stream where it's a Trump pinata being whacked with a stick. You make so much money.

Yeah, that's all it is. That's all it is. Clip after clip after clip, just you, and, you know, the intro to the show is, guys, you don't need to hear me say anything. We all hate Trump. Just watch me for the next two hours, beat this Trump piniaeat with a stick. You'll MS. MS now will lose all their viewers to you. Halloween special, you burn the Trump effigy.

You'd make so much money. And especially the largest media markets in the country would be tuning into that. I think that if you won up MS now, to the legal extent, you'd easily take their viewers. Saying Trump is outrageous and he's bad. Just say, literally just say Trump is Hitler the whole time and show World War II footage, but put Trump instead of Hitler. Is it going to be, they're just going to switch to whoever the Republican candidate is as soon as they announced next year? Yes. They did it with DeSantis.

Do you remember that? Yeah. I mean, well, this is like this story is played out over the last 20 years, right? And this was George Bush was the incarnation of everything that was unholy and evil and was Satan and was a Nazi. And now it's like, oh, he's actually a good guy. He tells good jokes. We love seeing baseball with him. Right. This is, this is their schick. When the primary was kicking up in, I think it was started in 2022 and then in 23, DeSantis became the frontrunner. Trump hadn't been very present. And DeSantis was was crushing it in Florida. And he has, and I respect it. I remember sitting down the Daily Wire saying, you know, look, I'm for DeSantis.

If he comes out of the gate, he's the guy. They started running articles saying DeSantis is worse than Trump. It was insane because they said Trump is racist. Then they said Trump is the worst racist. Then Trump is almost as bad as Hitler. Then Trump is Hitler. Then Trump is worse than Hitler. Then Trump is gone for a year.

And DeSantis comes in. and they go, Desantis is actually worse than Trump. And I'm like, now Hitler's down here and DeSantis is all the way up here based on what you've been doing rhetorically. Yeah, and I think the argument they made was like, Desantis will be an effective Hitler. Do you guys remember the don't say gay bill that they tried to fearmonger? I mean, don't say straight? Don't say straight bill that they tried to fearmonger around DeSantis on.

Yeah, we call it the don't say straight bill because the bill said that teachers could not discuss their interpersonal relationships with children, and considering most people are in straight relationships, it was actually barring teachers from talking about their heterosexual coupling. So I actually think it benefited gay people. That's what made Descentus Hitler at the time. Yeah. And they were dancing in hallways.

And the fight with Disney. Oh, yeah, and the fight with Disney. And the boots also. Not. Oh, yeah, the Air Boy boots. Sinclair pulled that one out on them, Ashley. Can we just drop the pretense? I mean, you know what I really can't stand about the culture war is just

the pretending. The, you know, Republicans and Democrats both arguing nobility. No, no, I don't, I don't care. Like, I think Republicans are right. You think Democrats are right. Can we just argue, I will do everything to maximize the power of my political party? No, we have to have pretense because we're using TV. So when you're using the airwaves, you have to have an air of pretension. You can't be truly your radical self when the world's listening. You got to do that in a back room. We know there's spy satellites. But nobody's falling for it. It's like, it's the cringest thing ever to, you know, remember when Deepwater Horizon happened in the Gulf, the oil spill, and the CEO's like, we're terribly sorry.

Like, nobody believes you and nobody cares. I'd respect you more if you came out and said, you know, obviously we're going to clean it up. We're going to pay a fine for this. It'll be a slap on the wrist. It'll kill untold amounts of sea life. We're not going to stop. And we're sorry only because the malfunction happened. we're not morally or ethically sorry at all

and we're gonna keep going. I'd be like, okay. It's crazy how many people would rather be lied to than hear the harsh reality of truth and they're like, no, just tell me a sweet lie and let me go back to my game or whatever. This happened this week when those old tweets from Mallory McMorroro came out

and she has essentially what you're describing here whenever tweets said, well, the future is the ring and not the horror film, but she was like, you know, the coasts will be. break off and they'll join with Mexico and Canada and they'll basically just napalm what's left in the middle. Let's pull this. We got some CNN.

This is massive. Make me miss California. Deleted tweets Senate candidate Mallory McMorrow disparaged Middle America. So she's in Michigan. They don't want us to read it now. She's in Michigan now. She's in Michigan now. She lived in California for a long

time and she wrote on social media how much she hated middle America saying it makes me miss California. And she wrote what you just described, the ring, which is this. There will be this ring of blue. You know what? You know what? Let me, let me pull up this. I'm going to pull up the Jesus Land and, what is it, Canadian states meme. Do you ever see that one? Yes. So I guess Canada would be the ring of blue to the north. Yeah. And Mexico to the south.

And then the ocean, obviously, which is blue. Here you go. This is the, this is what the meme basically is. So this is the proposed fracturing, or actually one of them, the Jesus Land map. It's an internet meme. It was created in 2004, so it's not necessarily accurate right now because there would be a small cluster down here. They'd probably take these states. And we would take Alberta now based on the world. Yeah, right, right. So again, this is 20 years old, but the idea was there was discussion in 2004 of breaking away of the United States

fracturing and several states joining Canada. She's talking about that. She deleted those tweets because this is what these communists do. She wants to win political power in Michigan. She has to pretend to like Michigan. She's the moderate in this race, too. That's the other thing. She's the moderate. She's the most moderate person in this race. Because the other guy, Abdul

Al-Said was the guy who said he didn't even want to I think celebrate the killing of Hassan Estrallah. or the Ayatollah, rather. Or he didn't want to comment it because he didn't want to upset his Arab Muslim basin. Was he the guy who campaigned with Hassan? Yes, that guy. She purged her ex-account of roughly 6,000 posts, including all of her tweets prior to 2020. Andrew Kaczynski noted this came after the posts April 2025 scoop on her tweet history.

The deleted posts include jabs at the Purple State. She's now running to represent saying, and it's snowing, screw you, Michigan. You know what that really bums you out because I love snow? And I like snowboarding and skiing, but where we are, it only snows every so often. And here she is coming from a warm place, moving to a cold place, and she hates it. There are days like these that make me miss California even more, she said in 2017. I had a dream that the U.S. amicably broke off into the ring, coasts, Canada, Mexico, plus parts of Michigan and Texas, and Middle America. She wrote in the since deleted tweet.

She's just lib post things. She said it amicably at least, but come on, that can't, you know, you don't have, there's no such things. a piece. Why is it linking to a gone tweet? We learned that in the 1850s. Indeed. In the 40s. You know, I'd actually respect her tremendously if she just said all these things and left the tweets up.

Totally. But it's exactly right. She's running as the moderate. So she's got to delete them because that's her lane, right? I wouldn't say anything ridiculous. I think the other thing that came out of this story is a lot of those tweets she deleted talked about her participating in the 2016 Dem primary out in California when she supposedly was already living and registered in Michigan. So potential election fraud that she participated in as well.

You know, I'd have a lot more respect for Graham Platner if like when they came out and said, hey, by the way, there's a Nazi tattoo on your chest. If you went, yeah, I'd be like, okay, you know, all right. Instead he's like, is that what that is? And they were like, yes. He's like, I had no idea. Legit, I'm not even joking. When they called out Democrat frontrunner for the Senate in Maine, Graham Platner's literal totencomf on his chest. He went, is, is that what that is a skull? I just thought it was a skull. Beats me. That is nuts. And this is why Fetterman's probably like one of the more honest people who've died here where he was saying today, dude's just an asshole. Platterner is just a straight up asshole. Because he's not, he's not truthful about anything.

And what did he blame it on? The tattoo ultimately was like his unit's insignia or something. He was popular in the Army or something Everybody got mere tattoos and you got drugs. It's cool. So I got a question about that though. What tattoo parlor did you go to where they had a Toten Kampf available for choice?

Those might exist. I don't know. I've read reporting that his staff actually confronted him about it and they were clear that he knew what it was. Like he calls himself a World War II history buff. Like it's hard to pretend you don't know what that is when you say, you know a lot about World War II. I have a question.

Neo-Nazis and white supremacists prefer racial segregation. That's correct, right? I'm not wrong in that assumption. Yeah. They would prefer it if in this country, they separated the races. And white people would live with white people and black with black people. I think that's largely true among white nationalists. White supremacists, they're going to add the, they think they're better than everybody,

but that's a separate thing. Which political party advocates for policies based on race? Maybe the Democratic Party. The Democrat Party. Not the Republicans. Republicans are fighting these things. Which political party advocates for policies? political districts based on race.

It's the Democratic Party. Indeed, which political party has created POC and non-POC only spaces? It's the Democratic Party. So real quick, and which political party hates Israel? Well, and which party now has elected mayors in some of the largest cities in America saying, we will only hire, we will only contract with non-white businesses, right? Choosing winners and losers based on their race. That I would argue that Nazis would probably not be not okay with, but I would just say, if you were a Nazi looking at the list of everything you wanted, you'd be like, well, we might lose a couple of things in the cities we don't want to be in. But man, if those cities are saying they're only going to hire black people and all the black people move there and leave where we are, my point is, when I see Graham Platner with a Nazi tattoo, I'm like, he's just a Nazi who realized that to get through most of what a Nazi would

want the Democratic Party is your path forward. He hates the Jews. He hates Israel and he wants racial segregation. I mean, does he hate the Jews? Did he say something bad about Jews? Or is it just I'm saying, well, he has heavily criticized Israel, which is always allowed, not not not necessarily Jew thing. I'm just being he also somewhat facetious. He's also got some crazy Reddit post back in the day about like Hamas. Yeah. Wiping out Israel and stuff like that. My point is if you are a Nazi who hates the Jews and hates Israel, the Democratic Party. party is for you. I think it's transparent, like the double standard, though, because you saw everybody in the media trash aggressively, Secretary of War, Pete Hexeth for his, I think it's an Iron

Krauss tattoo that, you know, it did make the rounds in the media. Everybody called it a white supremacist tattoo. It's a, it's a Jerusalem cross, which is like an old crusader. That was the connection. But yeah, no. Yeah, there were many outlets explicitly saying that it might signify that he's a white supremacist. I'm reading from Politico that it's associated with white supremacist groups, as opposed to articles talking about Plattner's tattoo that says how he expresses regret and he could potentially resemble a Nazi tattoo. So they give him like this plausible deniability

that they would never afford to Secretary Hexeth. Despite Secretary Hexeth's tattoo not being any anything resembling a white supremacist symbol, but this guy has a literal Toten Kampf on his chest. And it's been there for like a very long time. Yo, he had it for 20 years, didn't he? The thing about Democrat policies about race policies, race-based policies.

If you live in a society, with 78% black people of a certain culture that votes that way. They'll say, look, we're not doing anything by race. It's all by majority. And you're like, oh, well, the majority happens to be one race, and they're dominating the political sphere through majority rule. So now we need to make exceptions for all these minorities that are getting dogged and trashed in culture and society.

So that's where the democratic philosophy comes from is you need to make sure people don't. Guys, I got to read to the story. I'm sorry. So here's the origin of his toten conf. he was in his 20s on leave in Croatia, specifically split during his third deployment. He and fellow Marines got very inebrated and decided to get tattoos. They picked a terrifying looking skull and crossbones design off the wall at a tattoo parlor, seeing it as generic military pirate edgy imagery, common in military culture for scary tattoos.

I just want to stress, these guys walked into a tattoo parlor with a giant Nazi toten kumf on the wall. that is available for public display in Croatia. I have to wonder about what they were thinking when they entered that tattoo parlor and what the, let's just say, the business individuals, what were they wearing and what did they look like? And what else was on the wall?

What was it called? I got to wonder if you're going to put a toten confit on your wall, if they're not perhaps any other symbols, perhaps maybe an old Buddhist symbol that was flipped over. Old Buddhist symbol. It's an old Prussian military symbol that the Nazis co-opted, just like the swastika. It bastardized a lot of stuff.

They co-opted. Interesting. Okay, at the very least, it demonstrates poor judgment. Assuming like, you know, give him every benefit of the doubt, I think this demonstrates his poor judgment, and maybe it's not the judgment and, you know, thought process that somebody who would potentially be senator should have. Like, if you are getting something permanently tattooed on your body, you should understand or know what the symbol is,

do some due diligence before doing that. I don't know if it's too much to ask for. And again, I think he's playing dumb. I think he knew what it was. I just looked this up because I could be wrong. But my understanding was that in most of Europe, Nazi imagery is actually a crime. And it is.

In Croatia, it is illegal to display Nazi imagery. We went to a dark tattoo parlor. He went into a tattoo parlor with a toten conf on the wall. I don't believe him for a second. I think the guy's just a Nazi. Yeah, I don't think like Jared Holt or anybody at the ADL would have thought twice if, you know, one of the people who they were tracking

as a white supremacist had this type of tattoo on them. I just think it's odd that people like Halt aren't all over this guy. Well, the other interesting thing I was going to say was when he did his little sit-down confessional, like the sort of like O'Donnell when she ran for Senate a few years ago, I'm not a witch, he did the whole, I'm sorry for this. And he said, well, now I will pay to remove it. Dude, if he had bad judgment 20 years ago,

there was a long time in between there where he could have said, oh, shoot, I learned about this symbol. Wow, this is really troubling. I should get this removed from my chest. Doesn't seem like something you just like keep putting off. You know what the one difference was? He decided he wants to be a politician.

A U.S. Senator. That's why I decided to get it covered. It was since the 90s. The Nazi imagery has been banned, and they've had sporadic heavy enforcement. In 2004, they ordered the removal of plaques honoring Nazi-era figures. I just don't believe this guy for a second. The story is either he intentionally sought out.

a Nazi tattoo or he intentionally sought out a Nazi tattoo parlor and then got a Nazi tattoo. Well, he was, I don't know how old he is now, 40 something. He was in his 20s. He was hammered with his buddies. He was in the military on the leave. He was in the military, so they're all amped up. They go, probably blacked out. I've never heard of a Toten Kampf till tonight. This is the first time I've ever heard the word said out loud. And I've never, I think I've seen that before. I had no idea that it was a Nazi thing until tonight. Well, the other thing here, just to note, I mean, I know he's doing this like faux working class hero schick right But Plano comes from an incredibly wealthy, socially elite family in New York and the Northeast.

He went to Hotchkiss, one of the premier boarding schools in America. The idea that he was somehow ignorant about the significance or the symbolism or like, I don't know. I just picked like Pirates in the Caribbean looking tattoo from my chest. I don't believe it because, again, came from an incredibly sophisticated, educated, wealthy Northeast family. And so I think it's a schick. I think it's a schick.

I think it's a extra to have it put on. If he didn't know, like that's a judge of his mental faculty. He's like, dude, the big thing on your chest so you know what it is. He's either a Nazi or developmentally disabled. Either way, I would argue you shouldn't vote for him. Well, but Janet Mills has dropped out of the race. He dropped and so a lot of boomer, liberal Portland voters will. be happily voting for the dude with the giant Nazi tattoo.

You know what? I think we should go to Maine. Yeah, but I got friends who live in Portland, and I'm going to ask him if they're voting for the Nazi guy. Yeah, but so many Republicans hate Susan Collins and just call her a rhino P-O-P-O-S, so like I could see why this guy has a good chance of winning a- No, no, no, I know. I just want to hear it from the voters there being like, for 20 years he had a Nazi tattoo on his chest. Do you forgive him? They'll say yes. I'll be like, okay. Do you forget? So if like there was a guy, I mean, they forget, What was that Hillary Clinton's friend who was in Congress?

The Nazi was his name, Bird. Larry, Robert Bird. Yeah, he was like a Grand Wizard. The King, KKK. Look, I'll say this. The only real, you know, I guess, retardant in my view on this one, is that people are allowed to say, I'm sorry. Grand Platner is like, he has a mistake, I'm sorry. It's like, okay, I don't believe him.

But if people are like, I don't want to be associated with that thing and they say they don't, then I, I don't. don't know if we can exist as a society that holds everyone to the standard of themselves for 20 years ago. Yeah, really. And you could wear Nazi paraphernalia and not be a Nazi. It used to be punk rock. Would you recommend it. Are you talking about Prince Harry again? Is it Harry goes the distance? Yeah. I mean, that is literally the values of punk rock is where the most countercultural imagery. But the down, the opposite of that is, you know, if you're going to project an image, you better know what that's going to do to other people when they see it and get behind it because you're doing it. I think you'd also just get back to how Tim started this discussion, which is like,

then just own it, dude. Just be like, yeah, I made a mistake. I learned what this is. I do have this. That's not owning it. If he came out and was like, yeah, totally. I was super into it. And I'm going to get it removed.

I'm in a different life, period of my life now. I reject that. Yep. Then I'd be like, okay. Like, literally, we would not be talking about it. If he came out and said, I am getting it removed. And, you know, when I was younger, I thought it was cool and I was into it, but I grew up.

Then I think Democrats still wouldn't care. and at least get a little bit of respect for me being like, okay, well, you know, he owned up to it. He probably also should have done that before he started running. He announced and did it after. That was my point, which is like, if it was a failure of judgment, there was a number of years. If you know you're going to run for something,

you could do some things to prepare, like, for example, cover up your Nazi tattoo. So the moment that picture... The moment the picture drops, then you can say, oh, you know what, I got that removed five years ago. Yeah, yep. But I will say, I don't want to do too much pearl clutching over this because I don't think people want to hear

Jewish people complain about, you know, the Totten Kahn symbol on this guy, despite it being there. I mean, I got to be honest. Like, if he came out and said, listen, I don't like his politics. If he came out and they were like, you have a Nazi tattoo and he goes, you're damn right, I do. Next question. I'd be like, damn.

All right. That's infinitely more respectable. The Nazis thrown up to it. Yeah. I'd like to see him go deep on the Prussian ancestry of history of the tattoo. Did he get it removed? Well, he says he did. He got covered. Let's jump to this next story. We've got tweet from U.S. Attorney Piro, they have released footage, the actual footage from the

assassination attempt on Donald Trump. In it, you can actually see dude fire buckshot at a secret service agent. And I would say it's not particularly clear, but it's clear enough to understand what you're seeing. So this is footage first showing the suspect, Cole Allen, they describe as casing the hotel. And, you know, I watched this. video. And it's the same thing I bring up all time. When I was younger, you see videos like this and you wonder why it is. These people are so stupid. And then you think, well, if they were smart, they wouldn't have tried to stage an assassination in the first place. They'd just be rich and funding super PACs. But you can't accuse this guy of being smart. So you can see him, you know, walking around.

And then we have the footage that we've already seen, but it's a little bit clearer. So here's him case in the joint again. And then we have, let's jump forward to the surveillance video in question. So this is Saturday and you can see it's 836. Now this is the footage that Trump tweeted that was low quality and this is the higher res version and you can see everybody standing around. You'll notice the dog

is sniffing. I think the dog smelled the weapons. And they just like to do his thing and let me do some maintenance on the thing. They're breaking down security. So here's him running in. He runs in full speed and then you can

see right here there's a frame. he aims the shotgun at this agent who takes him buckshot apparently he was not hurt in the least bit which is surprising that's close range buckshot he fires several shots at him I think he fires four and they draw but they don't open fire apparently

or do they? And then they play it again at slow speed Kellan brought these to see those three female cops up against the wall watch what they do when he runs the lady cops on middle one unfortunately seems to trip over her own foot. Watch him You can see him fire here. Bang. Dang, dude, I want audio.

Do they have audio? No. I may see one with audio yet. Super dangerous for Crossfire there. I don't even want to make life. This is the first thing I thought is how did you not hit them? Right. Crossfire's extreme.

Those three ladies, but yeah. Yeah, when you were just grazed them with the shotgun. These look like TSA. I don't think they're super serious. Maybe they're not cops. Maybe that's why they freak out. Well, I mean, TSA is law enforcement. Yeah, TSA.

That's TSA. It's TSA. It fell over. I gotta be honest I don't expect TSA to go like administrative TSA agents to go chasing after a guy especially when you got Secret Service

and decked out dudes Yeah you want to be away behind the guys That are pointing the guns down range Yeah there is no audio But uh Fires he hits Geez I mean death penalty Is that not death penalty

You open fire in a cop Is that not death penalty just there goes That's a it's a I don't think so I don't think so I think he's looking at life A combination of of the charges would be life in prison probably several times over. But I don't, I don't, death.

Death penalty is usually an egregious crime like shooting a cop is not. No, no, murder is not, does not warrant the death penalty. It's usually like you killed him in a grotesque and horrifying way. I mean, yeah, I think one of the questions here will be what jurisdiction do they bring these charges in? Oh, it's D.C.

It's federal. I mean, that's it. It'll be. He's cooked. He's going away for a long time. And then what happened? He got to the, so talking to me through. the rest is he ran to the top of his flight of steps that he was trying to get down to get to the ballroom and they they shot when he was at the top of the steps. I don't think he got shot. I don't think he got shot.

Tackled. How would they not shoot a guy with a shotgun? Well, I'm going to say this. Okay. So Homeboy runs full speed, right? Darding through. And I'm just like, he's real stupid. He's real, real stupid. He runs through the door first. He's real Caltech engineer. And his plan was just to run. I think he was going to make it all the way there. Well, I will say this. Running past Secret Service does not necessarily mean he's dumb, but considering the layout of the building and everything that's been put forward, like, this guy is very stupid. I think taking an immediate shot means he's dumb.

I'm also wondering why he didn't exercise at all and like, he's apparently talked about how he wanted to do it as his first chance. It's like, brother, have you gone to like, actually, I'm not going to say anything, which could actually aid someone. I'm just going to say he prepped nothing. Yeah. But of course, anybody's smart enough and willing to do preparation, but probably just open a bakery and become rich.

Yeah, or if they're really going to do an assassination attempt, you wouldn't know they did it. Like the really good ones, you don't know they did it. I'm going to tell you guys a secret. There's a bakery. My friend worked at. And they were doing like 100, 200 grand in sales per day. You want, like, that's why I look at all this stuff and I'm like,

it takes a real stupid person to do something like this. Yes, they get scared. If you really wanted to be rich and you were smart, you'd sell cupcakes. You can make even, this is a little bit of a side, but you can make smart people stupid by making them scared too. What were you going to say? I'm thankfully stupid because it's very scary what a smart motivated person can do. A smart motivated assassin, that is. As history demonstrates.

It's oxymoronic. So obviously it exists. My point is most people who are smart will not find themselves as assassinations. Sure, hopefully. The payout that hit men get actually is not worth it. So if you ever watch these like Sting Operation shows where they'll have like a fat hitman and like the wife comes in and she's like, I want to kill my husband. And he's like, how much you got?

And she goes, 10 grand. And he goes, okay. Like, bro. I think the past few years have demonstrated that a motivated individual who wants to commit a political assassination, whether it be Trump at the Butler rally, Charlie Kirk or Shinzo Abe. Yeah, Shinzobo was crazy. He's happened regularly.

And these assassins happened regularly. And I mean, it didn't take much besides one motivated individual. A lot of these didn't have large conspiracies to them as far as we know. What about Assassin's Creed? In the game, you have a wristband that, and for no reason, I love the game lore. You cut your index, your ring finger off so that you can make a fist and the blade can go through where your ring. It makes no sense. But the point is you have a concealed blade.

It's just life is so precious and it's really so easy to kill people. a lot of... I don't want to sound sketch. It's just that... Life is so fragile and people have a lot of contact with a lot of people just below the president.

And, you know, it's easy to have relative access to them. Especially when so much of the security around the president is just performative. And you see all these guys and not a single one of them saw him running down the hallway until he was already upon them

making his way through. Totally. And the shooter at Butler was just some kid allegedly acting alone and he would manage to get onto a roof that was unsure. Right. And another example where...

Yeah, well, I don't buy all that. You'd assume the only thing that they would do, if anything, would be to secure the perimeter and they didn't even do that. To be fair, as you hear this narrative, like security was really bad, that's just not true.

At the, the guy that got nowhere near the room. I think he wasn't even on the correct floor. He wasn't. It startedly nonetheless. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I think part of it is the accumulation of weapons beforehand,

the checking of the hotel room, and then also, you know, casing the joint, none of that raised any suspicions with the hotel security, Metro Police, or the Secret Service. So, like, I need the example of like, okay, maybe not a guy shooting buckshot, but what have he, you know, brought in some kind of ordnance, some kind of explosive device into the facility? We, we are, there's a lot of things that I can say that I'm not going to because I don't want anyone to. Right. But let me just say this. We, we will not, he did not train, dark arts on television. He did not train, nor have any plan for what these

security the security in the place would do. Yeah. I can right now, at the top of my head, say three things that would have got him into the ballroom. I'm not going to, but I think a lot of people who have any kind of combat training, any, any military, are going to be going, oh, yeah. Yeah. Simple, simple, simple things. But you don't want to say them. That's why I think Trump's on the side of the deep state, because there's none of that, like, military tried. I mean, he has the deep state. Yeah, I feel like he is, he is now with the deep state. No, no, no, not with them. He took it over. Oh, he has taken the deep. Yeah, because I haven't seen these like any garbage like real real attempts it's like dudes that are like pissed off by the media

are again i gotta stress i don't know i you know i don't know math is actually really simple people who hate don't rump and are very smart just get rich and then fund their way to alter the machine oh yeah they bought trump coin and then they sold it when it went up to 80 bucks i'm saying the people who hate it in the whole time they don't buy trump coin they invest in google they they they go to they they make a billion dollars go to fundraisers and then pay NGOs and work with the Soros group because funding DAs across the country is infinitely more successful for their cause than throwing a brick through the window or shooting at somebody. I think we are in an era of political assassinations. I think the rhetoric online is only incentivizing and encouraging people to get more crazy. Society is set up in such a way that people are becoming more mentally ill. It's being encouraged and normalized.

You see half the assassins online who've committed these acts are praised or at least not condemned in large part. mind. People feel as though they have no contribution to the political process. So how are you going to contribute? How are you going to make the difference that you see fit and you feel justified and have been told you are justified in feeling online and by all of your peers? How are you going to get this out? Your vote doesn't matter is what you're being told online and there's nothing you could do to affect change. But guess what? You know, you see other political assassinations happen and you say, aha, I can make this difference. I could stop Hitler. I could stop fascism in my country. And that's what a lot of these people are thinking.

Stop Hitler is treat it like you're back in time right now and you can change people's minds within that video. But anyway. I think it's the rhetoric and incentive structure that we've set up. Let me say that if what you're saying is true, which it might be that we're in an era now of this kind of thing, that makes me concern because like you were saying, how did this guy get all the way through here, casing the joint? There's been three attempts on the president in the past. This is like a technocratic argument. They're going to say, we need security. We need more security. We need to spy. We need to get people's DNA. We need to know where you are, when you are. We need to know everyone so that this

cannot happen. That's going to be a lot of the argument coming up in this era. Well, I mean, I think two things can be true, right? Like, it can be the case that political assassinations are on the rise, and that may be what it take. I mean, we'd have the conversation around what it means for that type of surveillance and FISA surveillance to exist, and would it even be effective? But I think it's pretty clear that we're seeing people feel emboldened to take this into their own hands. There's other examples of attacks on members of Congress. The federal district court judge in New Jersey who was shot killed. This stuff is regularly happening in Minneapolis or somewhere in Minnesota. There were a couple of council members

outside of an Israeli embassy. There was a couple of staffers that were shot. Josh Shapiro, the governor of Pennsylvania, had a few attacks on him. These are the only the ones that I could think of off the top of my head. But people aren't widely condemning this. And people do genuinely believe that the ends justify the means in our political system. And the more disenfranchised that people feel, the more gerrymandered that districts get and the less competitive any of these elections are, people will feel more and more disenfranchised, and their outlet for that may be violence, unfortunately. And I think that the incentive structure really and the support around it, we're not condemning Luigi Mangione.

No. Tyler Robinson isn't almost even not being blamed. And Erica Kirk is being made out to be, you know, the villain here. Of course, any violence towards any Jew or Israeli or so-called Zionist is justified by the alleged genocide that they're perpetrating. Of course, any Trump supporter is fair game because they're racist, fascist supporters. So I think the rhetoric around this is dangerous. Of course, we've seen attacks on ICE agents and the doxing of ICE agents. I think people want to take it into their own hands, especially the rhetoric online from the left. They feel totally justified in what they're doing. Well, I mean, the Minneapolis Church, the Don Lemon event, right? I mean, what they said was it was necessary for us to go into this house of worship because those people

needed to know that one of their auxiliary pastors was an ICE agent. It doesn't matter if you're interfering with worship or, you know, a religious service. We felt so justified that we had to tell these people you have a pastor who is evil and a Nazi. Well, if they buy into the rhetoric that is being fed to them online and by elected officials, it's hard to blame somebody with a little bit of mental illness for taking this seriously. If Trump really is Hitler, if ICE is really the Gestapo, then aren't you doing something good? If Israel is really committing genocide and we're supporting Israel and committing that genocide,

if you stop the people who are supporting it, aren't you preventing genocide? That's the sort of logical conclusions that a lot of dumb people being misled. You know what I thought was really funny? And rationalized. If you could go back in time and kill baby Hitler, would you do it? No, I would help him.

I would make him a better human so he didn't go crazy like he did. My point is, like, the conundrum you're presented with is kill a baby or let Hitler happen when it's like you could literally just move the baby to a different building and like it'll get adopted by a different family.

Like butterfly family. Race him as a Jew. You could literally just take baby Hitler and then bring him to like North Sentinel Island where he'll grow up and just be firing bows and arrows with North Sentinelese. I wonder if you could ever be fair, they probably eat it.

If you went back in time to Hitler and you're like, look, I'm going to teach you how to be a really good painter. So this time you'll succeed. Make him better at arcs. You end up just making him excited to paint and then the same thing happens. Then what if he doesn't even want to pay anymore? He's like, I've already done this now.

What if, what if every time you're like, you're like, Hitler, you've got to paint a new picture. Trust me, it's going to work. He's like, but I don't want to paint picture. I want to kill the Jews. And you're like, stop it, Hitler. Stop it. Not this time. Stop it. Not this time.

Changing things. It's just the bankers you're worried about it. It's not the Jewish people themselves. I don't know. Was it just Hitler responsible for? Only, yeah, literally nothing else. I don't know. Sully society put that guy in power on purpose.

That cultic mechanism had been flew. for 20 or 30 years as like a counter-communist movement. I failed to believe that he was solely responsible for all of Nazism and Germany buying into... He was put there. He was chosen to be an order for that movement. It was not an anti-comic, counter-communist because it was like communism. To bring this, I think, full circle to the gerrymandering, because I think that plays a role in this, because, again, it gets more, as Tim was saying, more extremist lawmakers elected into office.

It incentivizes more extreme candidates because they only need to play ball in the primary and not the general. And if their rhetoric is getting more extreme, people, again, have less of an outlet for their politics in these general elections. I think you're kind of setting up a powder keg in many senses. I thought the same thing earlier when you're talking about that. I don't know how to give people their voice back. Since Congress was hijacked by the Federal Reserve in 1913, like obviously they're working for big business. The little guy's been suffering under the boot, but they didn't know. Totally screwed.

Yeah. I mean, I mean, yeah, I think, well, that's that's one of the big problems, right? It's like, there's no value to the money for working class people. They have no access. Even if they have a member of Congress who is ostensibly equal to their ideological preferences, the members of Congress are all owned by big banks, by multinational corporations, by special interests. Can I pivot and ask you were in Trump 45? What do you think about Trump 47?

What do I think about 47? I think there have been some really exciting things that they've accomplished. I think for those folks who like to say, well, 47 is the corrective to 45, we solved, you know, a lot of the personnel issues. I don't know if that's exactly right. I think there's some of the similar problems that we experienced in 45. There are people who are not aligned with the core parts of what Trump originally ran on, which is, you know, rewiring trade to favor the interests of working class Americans. stopping the mass immigration that is destroying the continuity, the coherence of our culture, and no foreign entanglements, no forever wars.

So I think there are parts of 47 that are distinct and different. I think he is moved out faster on some of the core issues that needed to be addressed. But in other ways, I think you see some of the same personnel problems. I know some people, there's been some fracturing of the party. I don't know if I'm breaking any news for you here. What do you think of the intra-maga fights that we're seeing as a result of some of the president's policies, I guess particularly on the Iran war, but there's other things too? Yeah, look, some of that's really difficult to disentangle from the nefarious influence of social media as a new way of not only just getting clicks, but monetizing.

So you mentioned the way that a grieving widow is now somehow twisted in, and reshaped as the villain of the story. And there are plenty of people who have a direct incentive to, a monetary incentive to do that. So I think the biggest voices in this discussion all have some very interesting incentives to part with the president. Now, I think a few of the folks who have parted with the president most recently, it is on a question of conviction.

I think they vehemently disagree with the president. decision to go to war in Iran. And I think as the situation plays out in the Strait of Hormuz and it's cascading effect on the world economy, I think they feel like they are justified in that opposition. So I think the question is now, if President Trump were running for reelection in 2008, would the coalition that secured his victory this last election 24 be there for him? I don't know if that's as much of an interesting question because he wouldn't be able to run again. I'm saying if you were running, right? I think the more interesting question would be, would J.D. Vance or Marco Rubio be able to inherit that coalition?

Do you think there's a choice for who would be preferable in a MAGA-era parent situation? Because the president won't be around forever, of course. Yeah, I don't know if it's the, I mean, I think, I think obviously if J.D. Vance decides to run, I think most of the elements of this new fusion coalition, the tech right, the populist core, they're probably going to get behind Vance. But I think it's an open question whether the vice president runs. And I will say, it seems like Marco Rubio's staying power

as like the favorite son of the president is really without parallel. No one has lasted. Fascinating, right? No one has lasted this close to the sun for this. I mean, if you're thinking like French imperial politics, nobody has been this close to the king as a chief courtier for this long and succeeded.

And it's not like he's only, you know, it's not like he's just running like national parks. He's got a pretty important portfolio of issues. And the president obviously favors him, I think, you know, incredibly highly of the work that he's doing. So I wouldn't count out Marco Rubio. And Marco Rubio still has a lot of, a lot of staying power with the old guard, the old Bush element of the Republican Party. He's really come a long way. I'm old enough to remember when he was Little Marco. You guys remember Little Marco?

Oh, for sure. And now he is National Security Advisor, Secretary of State might be mega-era parent. I thought he was cheap neocon in 2012

when he was one of those against Obama. I think he ran. Did he run in 2008 as well? He ran in 2016. Yeah. He didn't run in 2012. I thought he was like a cheap warmonger.

2013 he was, you know, an architect of, well, he had, you know, he had joined on some controversial

bipartisan bills and then he ran in 16 but I think that there's a lot of daylight between that Marco and this Marco. Let's grab the story from the

independent, mysterious earthquake swarm near Area 51 sparks conspiracy theories about secret testing. The quakes range from 2.5 to 4.4 in magnitude and struck within miles of the mysterious Area 51 military base. They say at least 17 earthquakes have been recorded in the past 24 hours. That's crazy, right? Testing, yeah. That's awesome. Yeah, they must be testing something, right? Sounds like. Area 51, of course, the Nevada test site, 4.4 magnitude earthquake struck 2.5.5. below 2.5 miles below ground just after 3 p.m. on Wednesday followed by over a dozen smaller quakes more than 100 people reported feeling the quakes geophysicist and internet personality stephen burns claimed in the video an axe the 4.4 magnitude quake was in an unusual place to

get an earthquake adding that it's particularly shallow conspiracy theorists have long speculated aliens are out of the base so uh this proves that the aliens are trying to escape and their ship is banging against the ground trying to get out of the underground base. I think Scientologists predicted something like that. Yeah. Elron Hubbard yeah, he wrote this all out. Out of the volcano. Yeah. That's where they got to reroute to get out through the volcano. No,

that's just so wrong. Okay? Zeno dropped the aliens into the volcano, killing them. And then the Thetans came out of the volcano and entered people's bodies. Imagine we made fun of Islam the way we just feel so callously to make fun of science. It's going to be really funny.

I don't even think of twice about it. It's going to be funny because, you know, Elon's sitting here and then, you know, one day he's going to die and he's going to find himself, like, walking on a cloud being like, where am I? He's going to walk up. It's going to be these pearly gates. And you're going to be like, can I come in there? Like, Scientology was the right one and you made fun of them. And there's going to be like a bunch of aliens up there and, like, Thetons or whatever those things are flying around. Did you just say you worked there? When I, in 2006, I was in L.A. I lived right across the street from the Scientology Center and I auditioned for a role of a married guy. Me and my girlfriend had cast as a married couple. And they're like, wait, what do you mean you got? What do you mean? Yeah. Wait, wait, wait, wait, on Hollywood Boulevard or?

Hollywood Boulevard, yeah. Hollywood and Franklin. They're across the street from birds where we'd hang out. And you were cast, like, in a promotional material? Yeah, promotional material to project the right to marriage, which is one of their tenets. Is everyone, every human has a right to marriage. And it was me and her, and we lied to the people and said, we're married.

And we weren't. Which I thought was kind of like indicative of what that whole religion is is fake. It seems to. It was like this whole thing. You look like you could be a Scientologist, too, though. Easily. They wanted to be bad. Did you?

We would hang out. I knew a lot of them. I mean, they test your... Yeah, I did the E meter. I would walk around the... What was your score? Wait, wait, wait, wait,

say more about the E meter. It's like, you hold these two metal rods and then they tell you like your E. I don't know if that's your chi. I don't know what they were telling me, but they're like, yeah. You ever go to the arcade and you hold onto the handles

and it, like, shocks you a little bit? I think it's just like that and it makes you feel a little shock and then it like, fake measures something. They have them workout. And they tell you you're not sufficient and you need to like, I don't know,

It might be measuring something, but like they have workout tech where you can hold a metal bar and then stand on a scale and it will tell you like your body mass index and all. So it might have been measuring some frequency, but. So I think this could work with impressionable people. You're a bit impressionable though. Why didn't this work on you? I'm super skeptical. I don't know. I don't get into earth religions anyway that much.

So I was just like, I don't even think of it really as a religion. It was more of like a club. Hold on. Go back. Earth religions, like, instead like cosmic religion? Yeah, like, human silver surfer. No, no. Like anything.

Human ideas that were developed by humans. I don't really put too much faith in human ideologies that much as opposed to what God really is probably real. So I'm not too adherent to one way I got to think of it. It's just and I always thought it was more of like a guy's club, a Scientology. It didn't feel like a religion. PC is a Scientologist. It was like a fraternity.

Yeah, Tom was in it. He was like the most famous one at the time. Travolta. Travolta. That's not a bad squad of people that Bill Smith was a Scientology. They'll tell you, like they'll make you super famous. if you join the fraternity basically, then you pay them a bunch of money,

and then you hang out at the bar with them afterwards, you all become friends. They drink too. They cast you in their movies. I think that's the whole- How do they feel about Jews? I don't know if they drink. I don't know if they drink.

I was just saying that I never drank with, like, Scientologists or anything. I don't know, I didn't ask, and I only hung out, went there once or twice. And, um... Or twice? It's kind of like Jews. Like, I never thought they were a religion.

I just thought it was another type of Christianity growing up. We're better than... I don't know. I just said that because you're here. Yeah, no, I know. But it was like, I don't know much about religion, man. I don't, it's all the same to me. Don't be so modest.

People are people. When you look in their eyes, they just want to eat food and get your rest. Music is your religion, bro. That's true. Praise God. Are you of a... An earth religion? Yeah.

Yeah, I am of an earth religion. Yeah. There you go. I prefer earth religions to say Martian ones. Really? Yeah. Whatever they're doing up on Mars. I haven't none of that.

Earthly religions, man. I don't know. I don't know. It seems like we always. only prey to money these days. I know. That's the earthly religion. That's truly looking back in 10,000 years when they look back at this era, they were worshipping money and they didn't, maybe some of them didn't realize that they'd been a doctorate. St. Augustine says, man has a desire to worship, and if you take God from the picture, he will worship something. Now, Elon says

that the next phase of human currency will be just electricity and your ability to move a payload. So what will we begin to worship then? I'm starting to think this Elon guy is full of it. I don't know. He just sees far ahead. He sees cycle. No, I don't know. Ever since the, the Doge stuff, like, and he promised like a trillion and only got a billion, I was just like, well, I knew before that too, but that was the nail in the coffin. So it's better than zero. Yeah, it is better than zero, but if you overpromise and under-deliver, then you didn't do what you said you were going to do. Yeah, people are disappointed. And it's a big disappointment and. I think in a classic engineer's approach to government, I don't think he expected to find so many obstacles from

his own side, that people within the administration or maybe even within the cabinet, we're going to say, no, no, no, not this program, because this is my part of the deep state and it has to stay. I do wish I had as many kids as him. Not as many baby moms, though. Do you have any kids? No. Are you planning?

I hope so. What's the plan? The plan is to find a beautiful Jewish woman. So once you find her, what are you going to do? I'm going to propose to her. See, my problem is I find the girl, and then I'm not good enough. Well, then you didn't find her. Yeah, I thought I did.

but like you know you're always like looking for the girl i thought this was like a birds and the bees conversation how old are you what are you gonna do you need to do it sooner than later man because my whole life i'm like i gotta find the right girl and then i'm like no i got to be the right you look so young but you might as well be your one's foot in the grave man that's what it's even though you look so young well yeah what do you have 47 yeah that's washed up man i think i had 32 years left genetic age of 44 last time i said that's what you're picking it at 70 79 is life expectancy yeah okay yeah but that's my assessment right oh shit we're gonna die well maybe. I'm halfway there. I'm just crossing the hill right now. Dude, they're saying like you're going to live

150 pretty much everybody's going to be like 150. Well, I'm not going to die. Because I'm rich. The rest of you. I don't know. Maybe you. You're friends with the government. So there you go. Would you plug your brain into a machine? The, uh, no, like the cryogenic like Walt Disney, like just save, save my brain in my head. No, no, no, no. Brain digitization. Oh. They plug a norah link in and then slowly bit by bit, they replace your brain. And, like, with quantum or nanonorons, and then after 30 years, your whole brain is cybernetic. Yeah, no, I'm not down with the cyborg thing.

Me neither, man. I don't want to die because life is awesome, but sometimes I'm like, I don't know, death is awesome too. Sometimes you want to let it go. You want to let it go. Sometimes I'm just like lost and I'm like, what is, what are we doing here? Having kids. Creating that? Procreating and then what?

Like, what else is the purpose? You have kids. Be fruitful and multiply. You pass butter. pass butter do you pass the butter that's your purpose just help people out a little bit

no keep doing it you Ian just you during breakfast you're only here so that when I say pass the butter you do I mean that gives me something to do at least but I do purpose establishing purpose for humans is very important across the board that's well known

Rick and Morty joke what's it it's a Rick and Morty joke he creates a sentient little robot and the robot looks at his hands and goes what is my purpose and goes past the butter hands on the butter and then he uses it

and the robot goes what is my purpose? He goes, you pass butter. And the robot goes, oh, my God. Whenever you'd ask Alvin to pass you the butter, he'd make sure you get your thumbs stuck in it when he would hand it to you. That's offensive. He was an offensive farmer. He was awesome. You have kids who experience life and learn and iterate, and the function of life, whether you want to call it purpose, is to organize free energy into complex systems, serving as negative entropy, although operating at a lesser rate than entropy itself. Here's what I want to do is prevent World War III. This is my life. Build a space elevator. I'm going to make it happen, so now we cancel each other out.

You're going to make it happen. You're going to try and stop it. I'm going to try and stop it. I'm going to stop it. Just to spite you, I'm going to try and make it happen. I have to stop world of 12. I'm going to cancel up all your hard work. Don't do it. Come back to me. World War 11?

Build a space elevator, prevent the World War if we can. What if the space elevator makes World War 3 happen? Oh, yeah. Truly. I was going to say the goals are in competition. So like America builds a space elevator and then China's like, you can't have access to the moon like that. We want access to the moon. Then the U.S. starts moon mining real easily and with access to these resources starts growing too rapidly.

Other nations get threatened and all of the resources coming from the moon and staying in Earth cause a shift in the rotation of the Earth. Because now they're displacing weight from the moon onto Earth, causing the Earth to wobble. So other countries are like, dude, Earth will be destroyed unless you guys stop moon mining. and they're like, don't look at me, man. I only moon mine a couple tons per year, but it's everyone doing it at once, and so then a war breaks out, and it's your fault. We have to replace the weight that we take off the mass,

that we take off the moon. We have to replace it with stuff. I asked Chad GPT how much. They was like, don't worry about it. It would take so long to mine such moon mass that the tides would become affected. But eventually it would happen. So we would have to, like, put like rock,

you know, mine the metal, put the rock on there. We should put water up there. Water. And it would just evaporate, though. It would just evaporate. freeze, would it? What a space? It would not freeze?

I don't think so. What other things should we do on Earth? Because like the political thing in the U.S. is fucking terrifying right now. I'm like, what do we do? We got to... We should make like a thousand more Pokemon. Right now there's about a thousand, but we need a thousand more.

Okay. I could do that. No, we need to go back to the original 151. The biodiversity of Pokemon. Yeah. Yeah, you know what? Elad's right. Let's delete all of them and just go back to the original.

Which didn't make sense. There were like three birds. in their whole world. Yeah, once they got to the thousands, well, once they got the second set, it's too hard to, yeah, recognized past the OGs. And the collectibility was gone.

Yeah. Because the original Pokemon, there was only one species that had male and female. Like every other species was just asexual, I guess, or hermaphroditic. They should have capped it with Mew 2,

with Mew and Mew 2. Like, that's it. That should have been the end. I can't participate. I never played it. I never saw it. I don't know anything. My buddy sang the theme song.

That's all I know. Jason Page. Were you a Yu-Gi-O guy? Does anyone remember Crazy Bones? I was thinking about the third game. It's hard to explain what that was to like a lot of people. Yeah. I think there's another name for a game that was similar to Crazy Bones and Crazy Bones.

Came in like a coffin. Appropriated, yeah. You flick them and then you get the other ones if you knock them down. Okay. I never played it. It lasted for like one year. Did you guys play crossbows and catapults in the 80s? I mean, I just keep talking about old board games.

You, how old are you? I'm 40. I'm just a few years behind you on the journey into the green. And you look a lot younger than him too. Well, genetic age and solar age aren't the same. You know, that's why I'm like the genetic. Your genes can get younger. Your telomeres can regrow.

Okay, I just saw this. I got to pull it up because it's fun. We're going to talk about this real quick. This is from R slash theories on Reddit. The ballroom bunker must be stopped at all costs. We have to prevent the ballroom bunker from being built. We have to. The ballroom is so important to him because it's not about the

ballroom never was. It's about having a secure location for his night of the long knives. Oh, wow. Oh, man. How many up votes does this thing have? Two hundred and ninety. Uh, his supporters want mass arrest. They pose about it constantly. After they indicted the SPLC, his admin linked judges who work to the SPLC as lawyers were being slow boiled alive. Yeah. The same people building the Silicon Valley bunkers are building his. Why are they all needing these bunkers? Why is so important? Do you really think? think they're going to allow us to get back in power and risk them getting arrested.

They're all implicated in the Epstein files. The only way he gets to keep the government buildings with his name, passports, the golden dollars, his statues, his arch stolen billions, is if the billionaire he, is if the billionaire and, he wipes us out and stays in power. They can't live with us knowing what we know. There is only one outcome in this timeline unless we change it. We are in grave danger. Yes, you are.

Trump wanted to make the straight of Trump. He wanted to change the name of the straight. I don't know if he wants to, but he posted that with his truth social account. He posted. I got to be honest, like the Trump passports, Trump accounts. Did you guys, so I looked up the Trump accounts, right? Yeah. And it's IRS form 4547.

Yeah, 4547. It's genius. Oh, man. Genius. Okay. The Trump passports, I'm like, every, I see people posting, be like, man, I really want to get one of these. And I'm like, are you joking? It's a novelty I don't really care about.

But the people who are like, yeah, Trump passport. Uh-huh. No, I totally want to get one. What do you mean? It's going to be iconic, especially like 10 years out from now. Oh, you're even thinking of 100 years from now. No, it won't be iconic because 10 years out from now,

they'll be the 10th edition. No, they're definitely like, once Trump's out of office, they're definitely going to change the country. What do you mean once Trump is out of office? Yeah. One of those guys is. Trump is building. Like that meme where it's just every year.

Guys, the ballroom is actually not a ballroom. It's the launch facility for Trump's Voltron. Oh. So, yeah, Hegseth, Cash, and Rubio each have a robot, and so does Trump. And when they come together, they come out of the bottom, opens up from the roof. What about it? Does J.D. have one? Yeah. No, yeah, J.D., J.D., J.D., yeah, he's the, J.D. is the chest.

And then you've got Hagseth, Patel, the arms. Trump is the head. And they Voltron. And then they're going to just rampage through America, stepping on Democrat congressional office. It's not a ballroom. It's a, what is it? It's like his pyramid. It's his tomb. It's going to be the president's tomb. That's where he's going to be reverent at the White House. Very Egyptian. Exactly. That's a modern.

Believe it, it's going to be all of his riches. That's where it's going to store all of his money and gold. It would actually be hilarious. I'm sorry it would be. If as soon as it's built, they line all of Trump's like assets, just like gold cars, and then right in the middle is a cryogenic chamber. And Trump just gets in and says, I resign. And then lays down and just freezes them right there. The whole room sealed off.

Yeah, the whole room. gigantic iron gates come down, steel shutters. No one can get in it for 200 years, it's just there. And then like 100 years from, I was like, yeah, 47th president's still in there. I have a feeling. I guess if the Republicans hold office, it probably won't happen. But if the Democrats took the presidential power, they would just undo a bunch of the naming stuff that Trump's been doing?

Well, I think that's guaranteed. Okay, I thought. All of it. Is this real quick, the conspiracy theory here is that under the ballroom actually is a massive bunker. And the Libs thing, the ballroom is the guys, is the like, we're building a ballroom for special events, but it's actually so they can build a deep underground bunker with special capabilities and stuff. I imagine there's definitely funny business under the ballroom. I don't know whether or not that was like the impetus for why the president wanted to build it in the first place. We don't know exactly, but some funny business. Like clowns? Definitely clowns. Juggling down there? Something is going to be going on under the clowns with laser guns.

one clowns juggling while the other one shoots them with the lasers and Trump's down they're going like I love being president I don't think they've made a new situation room in a few decades like there's a couple of different yeah things that would make sense for them to have you mentioned just well so the conspiracy theory on the White House shooting is that it was staged to create a legal justification for the ballroom which is dumb because it doesn't make sense legally you can't go to court and be like this ex extraneous event occurred therefore I now have legal standing to build

with taxpayer dollars they're going to be like These are unrelated things. You don't get legal standing based on a thing happening somewhere else. I bet they got a big bunker under the White House. Under the White House is a network of tunnels. I've been there. You can just go there. Oh, cool.

Yeah, they're bowling alley. Oh, do they go deep? I bet do they go deeper than they, there's deeper and deeper and deeper. And they go 40, 50 miles out. Wow. Yeah, yeah. So the White House is a complex. There's a couple buildings.

Like there's the White House. And you go there quite a bit with the press briefing. There's the White House and then there's the buildings next to them. And underground, it's all connected. Exactly. And then there's secret. tunnels that go way out 40 miles into like Western Maryland. Yeah, in case like a nuclear blast happens, then you need to evacuate.

They drive. They're big. What do you guys think they were testing in area 51? And actually, if you walk around D.C. and you're smart, you can find the old tunnels. The old tunnels, some of which are like at Georgetown University that were used during the Civil War. You can see the exit. There will be like a weird thing where if you don't really think about it is. But if you know where they are, you can see the exits that pop up in the middle of D.C. or somewhere where there exits to secret escape tunnels.

And it's completely reasonable for people to do. tunnels every now and then and there's nothing weird about that. Boring company got Elon started a boring company and then it just went dark. It's totally government. They're building so many tunnels right now, dude. It's not a ballroom. Time Magazine's calling it a massive military complex.

Interesting. What if Trump is building like, what if Trump really is everything Democrats have claimed he is? And all the Republicans that are like, I wish you was the fascist they claimed he was. He is, but not on the surface. So we don't get anything we actually want, but all of the worst things imagine

are actually happening? Well, I mean, the crazy thing, though, about this picture that's running with this story in time is it assumes that we don't have Google Earth imaging. Like, you could bring up the satellite pictures of what they're building. So if it is a massive military complex, China, Iran, everyone already knows about it. I just, that's one of, I'm skeptical of this, because they would have done more to secure the site and they would have moved faster to construct even before the lawsuits. It's very also, I don't think you would want it right next to the White House. if you were going to build a big military complex. You want it farther away.

So if it gets hit by a missile, it doesn't blow up the entire placenta. Yeah. I mean, I think, you know, the one thing a lot of Americans don't understand about the White House is it's an 18th century house that's doing triple quadruple duty now as the nerve center of the executive branch, as the official sort of meet and greet for the head of state, you know, for the first ladies. It's maxed out. It's totally maxed out. The president is not wrong. I mean, the thing that liberals made a big deal about in 45 that he came and he was like, wow, this place is kind of a dump.

I mean, there's so many people going through there. The quarters are cramped. You mentioned the Situation Room. And the last time it was rewired was, I think, the end of the Clinton presidency. The last massive retrofit of it was under President Nixon. And these retrofits, because it's a place of work, they just kind of paper shit over. So the building needs to be updated. I want to stress this, too.

living in the White House would be living in a hotel with a convention going on 24-7? It's like the most miserable thing you could imagine. The White House, again, it's a complex. Actually, let me pull up Earth and explain this. They're going to paint it eventually? Paint it? Yeah, they keep brown house.

They made it, they based it off of Roman architecture, which is all these white pillars of marble, but the paint wore off of those. They actually paint their houses like normal humans. So, look, here you go. Memorabilia that's like all white. So you've got the Eisenhower building, and this is part of the White House complex, but the White House actually

is these three buildings. They tore this one down, right? That's the one that got knocked out. It's gone. Yeah. And then you got the Treasury building. So you go in here, this is the press brief. This is this press briefing right here. To the right. Yeah, that's right there. That long portion, a long portion. Yeah. So that's where the oval is. And that's gone to, where your cursor is right? Left, down, yeah. In here? Yeah, bottom right part of it. Oh, yeah, the West Wing, right? A swimming pool. And where your cursor just was, like, the Rose Garden, that's gone. Yeah, now it's in. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And there's a few statues there. So here's the White House. Imagine living in here. And you've got all the people showing up for work in here and in here and in here and in here. Living at the castle. No, it's like living in a convention. Yeah. Yeah.

Sorry. There's a lot of traffic in and out consistently. Yeah, it's nuts. 24-7. To the southwest of that, is that a pool that you can swim in? I'm not sure. It looks like that. I never get close to that.

Is that just for people to live there or work there? I mean, I think, I mean, the first family, obviously, but I think that's right behind the chief's office, the chief of staff's office is in that corner over there. And then deep underground. Which ones, you said press briefing is right here? Yeah. Oh, how does that work, though?

I feel like I walked in here. You might have entered through the, yeah, a difference to the west wing there. Yeah, okay. Through the west wing. Yeah, we walked down these stairs and we walked up here and then we entered here. That's Pebble Lane right there. If you look a little bit north, Tim.

Pebble Beach, yeah. Those tents right there are where all the press people shoot live videos from. Right, right. And Trump's like he walks in and then they're all standing there. And then you go to the right and that would be where we enter the press briefing room. Right here. Down here? No, to the right. We'd go down that street. Yeah. That's right here? No, left a little bit between where you were. At orange call? Yeah, the orange bill. Yeah. I think he's intentionally mousing around it. I like to do it. I'm just like, this looks like a hallway. Doesn't look at the entrance.

Have they retrofitted the briefing room? I think you mentioned that it was a headbigh. cramped or somebody It's very cramped. They didn't retrofitted. It's tiny. It's very tiny in the cast. Purposefully keep it that way.

The last major retrofit of the White House complex was under Harry Truman. That they did a significant refit of the facade. They added the balcony on the South Lawn. I mean,

so because a lot of presidents don't want to lose the symbolic power of being in the White House. So I think like the end of the Clinton presidency, they moved some offices out to do like new paint and new carpet.

But like the idea of shutting down White House for a major retrofit for two or three years while the president works out of a temporary office and the old executive no president wants to forego the symbolism of the White House. We're going to go to your Rumble Rans and Super Chat, so smash the like button and share the show with everyone, you know. But before we do, we get a great sponsor for you, my guy, it is venice.a.i. And it's right now in real time telling us that it's the best because it's, oh, no, it's telling me Venice the city. Now, why is Venice AI the best? Do you answer that?

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He's finally being called by his name. Is that how you say it? Ghostblade says Southern Poverty Law Center has given a new definition to hood rats, a Democrat organization that falsifies hatred, to gain fraudulent privileges and play victim to their own manufactured hate. Cochrum says, how about we just get rid of districts? Just give proportional seats to each party, i.e. 20 seats state, that's 55, 45, 45, right gets 11 GOP and 9 Dem.

Because districts are different, and you don't want to be in a blue state where you have no representation. Graham says, the only reason Michigan is blue is because 60% of voters are in the southeast of the lower peninsula. I think Michigan should be two states. What's going on? Why is it split with the water? You know what I mean? Yeah, what is that Wisconsin that has that other part?

Yeah, the upper peninsula is. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What is this, huh? Yeah. Some kind of... Wisconsinites must just be kind of soft. I mean, for sure.

It was an opportunistic thing to take their territory. Well, I guess to be fair, there is a bridge connecting them. Okay. Yeah, what's going on? And then Canada is stealing part of the land. Yeah, totally. We can't accept it. Could you imagine you're on a boat in Lake Superior, mind your own business,

and accidentally you're in Canada now? That'd be the worst thing ever. That used to happen in Lake area. They just shoot you. They throw maple syrup cocktails. They would vax you and enroll you in some kind of socialized health care. No. indeed things that we just don't want.

All right, let's grab some more of these here, Super Chats. What does it say? War a pack. What does it say? War a pack? I don't know how to say your name. Is being a fascist worse than being a communist? Communists kill more people in history than anyone else. Yeah, actually, and fascist countries actually just dissolve.

Communists. Fascist countries eventually just like they dissolve into general election. communist countries kill everybody until they blow up. So I was actually reading an interesting academic article about this that if you look at, you know, Spain, for instance, it eventually just soft turned back into a standard republic after. I mean, Franco wrote a constitution that restored the monarchy and allowed for democratic elections. Yeah. Whereas communists fight to the bitter end until there's no one left. Yeah, there's no one else left.

Yeah, there's no one. Is North Korea considered fascist or communist? Communist. Communist. Yeah. Totalitarian. For sure, yeah. Yeah.

It is all communist. More than anything else. Like, I mean, I'm sure they, the ideology is communist, but like, it's more state repression than. Batman. Batman says, Tim, I've been watching you since the beginning. You're amazing and truly inspirational because of you and your message. I am enlisting in the army and striving to serve America the best I can. Thank you for everything, Tim.

Well, amazing, best of luck. Tim, you're motivating the next generation of patriots. I mean, I don't, I've never advocated people to join the army because I have issues with the, um, you're going to get this guy to drop out now. Let me put it like this. Let's say it's, the year is 1780. Now let's go with the 1780 could work. Revolutionary War. There is a battle going on and they know that there's this dude who lives in Virginia, who's one of the best technicians ever, but he's just not in the armies. They can, they can issue a field commission. They can be like, we need you. Because this. This is when humans made sense and it wasn't bureaucratic. It was like, listen, I'm in charge of this. Would you like to fight alongside me? I'll give you a field commission. They'd be like, okay, you can't do that anymore.

Now it's like, did you go to college? It's like, well, you could have a guy who's one of the best in terms of like private military stuff, trained with a bunch of crazy top tier guys. And they're going to be like, sorry, we can hire you privately, but you literally can't join the military unless you go to college. Can they do battlefield appointments, commissions? I don't know. Legally they can't. Gangas Khan was great at that. He'd find the smartest, best people and he just put him in power. They were like nobody.

That's how it used to be. I think there is credit that should be given to Hegset here in getting rid of the idea that promotion through the general officer ranks relies on you getting a degree from Princeton or Harvard. That's gone. But it's at Tim's point. I mean, like, look under the current

bureaucratic system we have, you know, MacArthur would have been out before the end of World War II. LeMay would have been out because it's promote or you're out and there's an age cap on promotion. So all this genius that we credit now would have never been in the positions they were in in those pivotal moments because of bureaucracy. It's way too bureaucratic and it becomes rigid. And I know it's a large organization. So not everyone has the same experience, but the people that I know who have served when I stayed

briefly at Fort Carson for about a month and a half when my sister was living there and I stayed with and I lived briefly outside of Fort Eustace with my brother was stationed there. And the stories that I hear from people there, they're just like, it's like working at Walmart. You know, you go to your, you might go to the chain of command. You might be like, hey, here's a thing that needs to be solved. And they're like, the mechanism doesn't allow for us to solve problems that way. You hear about the bureaucracy of it. And it's just, it is inefficient in my opinion.

I would love to, I know getting Hague Seth on the show's a big ass, but. And maybe while he's serving. That'd be great to hear about what it was when he came in, how he's changed it, what he wants to change it to. Yeah. We just have to go to him. Okay. I think we've already had the discussion with administration people.

And it's like, bro, you're trying to get the Secretary of War to come out here for your show. Like, go there and he'll sit down with you. And he'll talk about it. I do think this is why you see such a virulent reaction, the antibody reaction from the deep state and the D.C. lead to Hexeth is because he is changing a lot of the ways that we recruit and get the general officers, but also some of these like really fake and sort of silly requirements. I'm like, well, you can't be an officer unless you went to a college or you can't promote unless you got this, you know, fake credential from the executive program.

Yeah, we can't function this way. Like, there's going to be some dude, and this is the problem with the overall alliance on private enterprise to subsidize effectively the failures that we're having in our military. Now, by all means, I think it's great if you're signing up, if you're enlisting. That's absolutely fantastic. I'm not trying to rag and say, don't do it. I'm just saying there's a lot of guys who work in cybersecurity, for instance. And they grew up in a world with computers where they became some of the best offset guys on the planet.

And they did not go to school. And they did not train to be in the military. And now the government relies on private contractors for most of this stuff. Maybe not most of it at this point. Maybe things are changing. But it was always silly to me, and largely this view is predicated upon this, that I knew people who were the back. hackers you'd ever see in terms of actual computer networking, real hacking, real computer hacking, and they would do private contracts, be outside the chain of command. And I'm like, this is dumb.

Why can't they go to you and say, we're going to put you through basic training? You are going to come in as an officer specializing in cybersecurity. You can be in the military. No, can't do it. So what they do is they hire privately, and then you're outside the chain of command. And it's just, I think that's dumb. I think it's bad for the U.S. military. And I think to your point, the overreliance on like the private sector subsidy just compensates for the obvious inefficiencies, the pathogens in government. I suppose the argument that I've heard is that there's a lot of things you need to know that is administrative about being an officer, the functions of the chain of command, the ranks, even pay structures. I think security clearance is too. Like how you actually do it.

You can't just be a regular person has no idea how the machine works and come into the machine. The only thing I would say on that is so I'm a reservist in the Air Force. I was a dude off the street. I went to officer training school. They don't teach you any of that. Try to navigate your way through health care, your pay, any of that. I mean, it's a, this is part of the bureaucracy. It's all just kind of like a mystical, specialized knowledge you have to gain.

What really, what really I think, got it for me is how many times I heard someone who was really passionate and wanted to be in there for a career, but they felt that they were held back by bureaucracy. Oh, I think, I mean, really honestly, I think you're exactly right. I would say it's even bigger than the military, though, that we have so many people in our country who are autodidacts, they're self-trained,

they learned a skill on the farm, they learned a skill from, you know, dad who was a skilled tradesman, and unless they have a paper credential saying, oh, you are an expert in this, there's no place in our economy for them. And that's just not true. with the American experience. I mean, America's

genius has always been the tinker and the garage creates the, you know, the PC. Apple was made in a garage by a couple of buddies and a marketing guy. Totally. Exactly. Let's grab one more. We've got a good one here. Before we go to the uncensored portion, Skull Kid says, the DOJs stated they will enforce the SCOTUS ruling in every

state with racially gerrymandered districts. I believe that would be Harmeet Dillon, right? Yeah. Oh, man. Civil rights division. So they're going to basically go to every state and say, we are making you do this. I'm stoked. I'm excited. I'm really excited for when they finally let me go into the deep underground military bunker. They're building at the White House and give me a tour.

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