Timcast IRL - GOP To ABOLISH The TSA, Defund NPR & PBS, Already ENDED Education Department w/ Carl Benjamin
Episode Date: March 28, 2025Tim, Phil, & Cody are joined by Carl Benjamin & Ben Stewart to discuss the GOP looking to abolish the TSA, NPR CEO being grilled for her anti-Trump bias, the official White House X account posting a m...eme of a deportation in the style of Studio Ghibli, and a communist leftist being arrested over the Las Vegas Tesla attack. Hosts: Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) Cody @BooniesHQ (YouTube) Ben Stewart | https://www.benjosephstewart.com/ Serge @SergeDotCom (everywhere) Guest: Carl Benjamin @Sargon_of_Akkad (X) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Play Chumba Casino today. No purchase necessary. VGW Group. Void where prohibited by law. 18 plus. TNCs apply. You know, with everything Donald Trump's been talking about doing,
everything he's actually done,
the story seems like it may actually happen.
So a couple of Republicans in the Senate want to abolish the TSA.
They argue that it's been cumbersome post 9-11,
et cetera, et cetera. And private security would be better. We also heard the GOP is planning to
defund NPR and PBS. And I believe it. I believe all of it. I wouldn't be surprised if in six
months almost every bureaucratic institution has been completely gutted because they already fired
most of the people at the Department of Education. And there's very little that Democrats can actually do to stop it
because Trump can move faster than the courts.
You get all these stories, you know, talking about the courts are blocking Trump
and Trump's acting all mad about it.
But if you actually look at what's getting done,
the Republicans are eviscerating the bureaucratic institutions.
So we'll talk about that.
Then we got some more
stories about Tesla's getting vandalized. We've got some nasty ones. One guy's on video rubbing
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more, we've got the man himself, Carl Benjamin.
Good evening.
Welcome back.
Thanks so much for having me.
Who are you?
Oh, I've been around.
Indeed.
Nothing too controversial in my past, but I've put the old behind me.
I'm a good boy now.
Look, I'm wearing a suit.
Yeah, no, I'm just the director of LotusEaters.com
and the podcast Lotus Eaters.
And we're causing a lot of waves in Britain at the moment.
There have been a lot of really positive articles about us recently.
Like we were in, there was an article about me in a magazine called Unheard,
which is like a center-right conservative magazine.
And it was just saying, look, the guy who wrote it was like, look,
I'm getting loads of like, you know, Zoomers coming in, like 25, 26-year-olds. We were hiring these new guys. write conservative magazine and it was just saying look ever the guy who wrote it was like look i'm
getting loads of like you know zoomers coming in like 25 26 year olds we were hiring these new guys
and all i can hear is carl benjamin's words coming out of their mouths what's going on every single
one of them and then in the spectator they were like yeah so the the young men in britain uh
they're not like reading you know imran or hayek or friedman or whatever uh they're they're watching podcast
lotus seasons and reading bronze age pervert and and so we're getting name dropped in really
positive ways and uh by the sort of the mainstream conservative magazines and it's just like well
look sorry guys we've been working really hard you know you guys have been slacking off all right
on glad to hear it oh thank you how would you describe yourself these days post-liberal or yeah i think post-liberal is fairly fair because um nobody really knows what
comes after it right um yeah liberalism has been the dominant paradigm of the west for 300 years
and we don't know what we're doing without it but the thing is it's clear that liberalism itself
has become the problem all of the all of the real civilizational struggles that we're facing are downstream of us
being liberals. And so we need to think of something else if we want to have a really
positive future. Right on. Well, thanks for coming. Should be fun. We got Ben Stewart hanging out as
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Yep, here just hanging out and going to enjoy some good conversation and probably going to go skate afterwards a little bit.
Right on.
Who are you?
What do you do?
Professional skateboarder, obviously.
And, yeah, just patron of the Boonies HQ.
Come and skate here quite a bit and enjoy myself
and get to beat Tim in games of skate sometimes.
Sometimes.
Pretty much every single time.
All the time. I'm trying to be nice, man. We're on the show. Sometimes Tim wins. No, sometimes. Sometimes. Pretty much every single time.
I'm trying to be nice, man.
We're on the show.
Sometimes Tim wins.
No, that's not true.
And Phil's here.
Hello, everybody.
My name is Phil Labonte.
I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains.
I'm an anti-communist and counter-revolutionary.
Let's get into it.
Let's go.
I saw this story and I immediately laughed.
I looked at Phil and I was like, we've got to lead with this.
Republicans look to abolish the TSA in favor of private security at airports.
Senator Mike Lee of Utah is leading a bill alongside Senator Tommy Tuberville.
They say, quote, the TSA is not only intruded into the privacy and personal space of most Americans,
it has also repeatedly failed tests to find weapons and explosives.
Our bill privatizes security functions at American airports under the eye of an Office of Aviation Security Oversight,
bringing this bureaucratic behemoth to a welcome end. American families can travel safely without feeling the hands of an army of federal employees. They know what they're doing.
The measure would officially abolish the TSA three years after being enacted into law,
which senators believe would provide time for security needs to be privatized.
The bill would also direct secretaries of Homeland Security and Transportation
to make a reorganization plan submitted to Congress.
In his own statement, Tuberville said,
the TSA is an inefficient bureaucratic mess that infringes on Americans' freedoms.
Indeed.
Well, what do you guys do over in the UK?
Well, it's just done by the government in a way that's similar.
Same thing? Yeah so it's worse
though because you can't say naughty words yeah well uh there's not normally a reason to swear
at airport security they say um but no it's just basically the same thing we've got i demand general
in the uk you can't you can't walk around saying naughty things you know it's actually mostly you
can in public uh the issue is when you put it on any kind of communications network,
that's when they get you.
What if you close your eyes in front of an abortion clinic?
As long as you're not praying inside your head, you're okay.
If you're praying inside your head within something like 30 meters of it
or something, you're in trouble.
So they just say, like, I'm not?
They arrest you anyway, don't they?
That's what happens to some lady?
No, no, no, no.
They ask them, are you praying in your head?
And she says, I might be.
And they say, well, you're coming with us.
But the thing is, it's Christians, and what they're doing is deliberately kind of flouting non-interference rules that we have for abortion,
which obviously I disagree with and think need to go, as well as abortion itself.
But there we go.
So, yeah, it's pretty bad.
It's actually kind
of interesting you you so you guys in the uk you've got government security do you care well i
mean to be honest with you um it's probably better to have all of the metal detectors and the the
patting down at the airports because we've got loads of muslim the country. Not trying to be rude, but it's...
But it's the extremists that you're concerned about.
Yeah, I know, but the extremists come out of the Muslim community.
And so for every 100,000 Muslims,
you'll have half a dozen extremists or something, right?
And it only takes one extremist to blow himself up
and kill a dozen people, two dozen people.
So, I mean, it's the same here. You guys have got a couple of million Muslims in this country.
So, like, you're going to want to actually have some sort of airport security because otherwise people will die.
Well, that's why they I mean, look, I know people might not like want to hear this, but that's literally what happened.
Yeah, I know. It was Islamic terrorists on 9-11, which resulted in the expansion.
It's pretty funny because I know there's gonna be a lot of people like, how dare you say that? That's racist.
This is what happened.
But the first thing I would say is it's a religion. It's an ideology. It's not a race.
But that's actually the history of this country.
So Carl is actually just saying, yeah, we're doing this because you guys did or we're doing something similar to what you guys did.
Well, we've had terror attacks that necessitate it as well.
So it's just one
of those things where you just have to make i mean you you've got like the lockerbie bombing
and various other ones where it's just you just have to have it because in in the uk are the
terror attacks disproportionately muslim yes there was the i mean there was the bus attacks in i
forget what the date was but there was was it was it 06, was it? Yeah. And there was
like something like that. There are
loads. I mean, the Manchester Arena
bombing was probably the worst. I was just going to say the Manchester Arena bombing.
Are you allowed to say that in the UK? Yeah,
it's factually true. Oh, okay, because I figured
you'd get arrested. I mean, I'm...
See, the thing is,
the one thing the British
government spends all of their time trying to police
is negative characterizations of groups.
So you're not allowed to say all of this terror attack, all of this terrorism and the grooming gangs that come out in the Muslim community, that's giving me a bad opinion of the Muslim community.
You can't say that.
As long as you say, no, that was an isolated incident.
That was an isolated incident. That was an isolated incident. That grooming gang, not an isolated incident because there's a bunch of them,
but it's somehow not reflective of the entire community,
even though they all kind of knew that that was going on.
As long as you're not saying that in public, you're okay.
You're on a communications device.
You're okay.
But otherwise, yeah, you're in trouble and you're going to jail.
But is what you're saying going to get you in trouble?
I mean, I'm in America. Yeah, I know. But remember when you're saying going to get you in trouble? I mean, I'm an American.
Yeah, I know, but remember when they said
they wanted to extradite American citizens?
I do remember, yeah.
I guess we'll find out when I get home, won't we?
I don't know.
What do you guys think?
TSA got to go?
I mean, I would like to see the TSA go.
Privatizing things is a good idea, in my opinion.
The TSA has no record of preventing any type of terrorism.
There's no evidence that they have ever stopped a terrorist attack at all.
And every, not every, there have been plenty of documented cases
of people testing the TSA.
I mean, official tests where people from TSA go
and they try to sneak things into airplanes.
And it's happened multiple times.
I personally have done a lot of flying myself and there have been times where I'll forget
something in my bag and I'll get on a plane and I'll get off and I'll be like, whoa, that
was not, you know, it's not cool that that was in there and stuff.
So I think that TSA, and if you look at the people that are working at TSA, you can, they
are not specifically trained to do anything.
They'll do whatever the training is that they have to do to get the job.
But they're not some I mean, they're they're no different than people that are working in the fast food industry or whatever, because the job itself is simple.
You sit there, you tell people what they're allowed to have and not to have,
and then you hand people bins. Maybe the person that's actually watching the x-ray machine gets
a little more training, but generally the level of training necessary to be a TSA agent is not
particularly high. It's not like it's some specialized skill that you have to go to school for it's not it's very low very low you know
effort type of job so they're getting people that are just off the streets like hey i'm looking for
a job go sign up and and you'll go through whatever training and then you get it so it's
it's not in any way a a specialized skill so get rid of it privatize it let the let the let a
private company actually do the job because they'll be more incentivized to do a better job.
You can give them great incentives as well.
You can be like, look, this is your base pay.
But for every gun or whatever you catch going through, you get a bonus.
So they're completely, oh, we make more money for each thing we take.
You know what they should do?
They should go.
I don't know if that will work out well, though.
Give them a bonus for getting the lines through faster.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Right?
And obviously, if they mess up, then they get fired.
I don't know if that'll work either.
Yeah, I think that's going to kind of make things sketchy.
Because if they mess up, they're still going to lose their job.
They still have to do their job well.
Like, if something happens, you lose your job.
We should be able to grade them on how good their pat-down was.
If you get to light a cigarette and feel good on the way to the gate, it's pretty good.
Do I get options on how this goes down?
I've had quite a few of those, yeah.
They give you the cigarette after a down.
Yeah, they're like, here you go, have a good one.
I'm like, I need this.
There's a smoking lounge down the hall on the left.
You get pre-check, you get a private room.
I don't know.
I don't know that we ever actually did the TSA in the first place.
I think we did. You think we did? Yeah. I don't think that they ever actually did the TSA in the first place.
You think we did?
Yeah.
I don't think that they'd catch box cutters now.
It's like... Well, hang on.
So the issue isn't actually catching someone in the act,
because that's normally if someone's thinking about committing a crime
and there's a guard stood right there, they're like,
OK, I'm not going to do it, right?
But if there's no guard there, then the average Islamic the extreme it's like oh right i can just bring a
bomb on here and no one's gonna stop me so what you what you're doing is just saying okay go nuts
didn't some dude just recently opened the door on a flight probably yeah yeah i mean we've got all
of these crazy flight things happening people are gonna go crazy And you know what else? In first class, they give you metal utensils.
So it's like, there was this researcher named Evan Booth,
I think his name was.
And he had a documentary series, like a mini doc thing,
where he made weapons inside of the airports, technically.
So he went inside airports, he bought a bunch of stuff,
and then left.
And then went to his lab and said, all of these were sourced from an airport and then made weapons.
It starts pretty rudimentary.
He rolled up a bunch of magazines, taped them together and made a club and bashed his stuff
with it.
Yeah.
Okay, fine.
And you bash things.
But he actually ended up making grenades because they sold.
I'm not going to explain the recipe.
Best not to.
It's all on the internet. I actually not going to explain the recipe. Best not to.
It's all on the internet.
I actually flew down and met with him.
I think it was in North Carolina.
And we actually made improvised explosives.
Didn't they take those off of YouTube?
I think YouTube took them down.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think YouTube took them down.
Vice had a video.
I think YouTube got rid of it all because they were like, oh.
And so his whole point was,
TSA doesn't do anything.
There are things being sold in an airport
that can very easily be turned into weapons and explosives.
There are pens that are made specifically to be self-defense items that the TSA will not stop.
Is that stuff under the domain of the TSA?
Like, is a private security going to change stuff like that?
I don't think so.
I don't think so. I don't think so. But it might be.
And honestly, if you have a system where there's private security companies
that are competing to get the contract,
the private security company
can actually go to the airport and say,
these are the things that we do.
This is the quality that we can provide.
And the airport itself can say,
we want to go with this company
or we want to go with that company.
So the problem is,
it's not really about stopping an individual case.
It's really about the deterrent and not having a soft underbelly
and making them think that you're going to stop them.
Because I guarantee it, the second the TSA,
if all checks were taken off tomorrow,
you would just start seeing this uptick of hijackings and explosives.
Because there is an active force in the world
that is at war with the United States
and will hopefully use terrorism.
I'm actually more concerned with leftists right now.
It could be those.
It could be any.
All of the low-grade terror that we see
comes from the left.
And they have mainstream support,
which is worrying.
Yep.
We will get into that,
but let's jump to this story real quick
while we're still on the topic
of getting rid of government.
We've got this one from Fox News. The GOP moves to defund the chronically biased NPR and PBS after disastrous hearing. They're always so clever with their with their bills titled the No Partisan Radio and Partisan Broadcasting Services Act or simply the NPR and PBS Act would fully cut off any direct or indirect government funding for both outlets
forcing them to compete instead of being propped up by the government did you guys see those uh
the hearing that went down i think it was today where they had the ceo maybe yesterday the ceo of
npr man i gotta pull this one up let me let me grab this one basically she's asked if npr is
biased yes i heard and then she's like no it is not and he's like
then why did you tweet trump is a fascist racist yeah listen i was treating that in a personal
capacity that wasn't a professional capacity in my professional life i'm completely neutral on
trump i think there are 87 people on the board there or or I don't remember if it was the board or whatever. There were 87 officials that were involved in NPR.
87 of them are Democrats.
And when questioned about it, she was like, well, we don't ask people their political
meetings, but I do find this to be a problem.
And that's concerning.
It's like, that is absolute BS.
Absolute BS.
Take a look at this clip.
Did you say there's no bias on NPR?
That is not a that is not a that is not a bias statement, man.
That is not even both parties wrapped themselves around this song.
Every time there's a national conflict, Lee Greenwood sings it and he does a beautiful job.
But you say there there is no bias in NPR.
That is that individual's opinion.
And she, of course, is entitled to it.
But that is not the position of NPR.
Ma'am, you said in your opening statement that that you were going to be transformative.
And I believe you failed to do that.
Let me ask you, why did you call President Trump a fascist and a deranged racist sociopath in 2020. oh congressman i
appreciate the opportunity to address this i regret those tweets i would not tweet them again
today i they represented a time where i was reflecting on you know there's there's way more
it's endless we've got this tweet from brandon gill let's uh let's watch this one white do you
believe that america is addicted to white supremacy?
I believe that I tweeted that, and as I've said earlier,
I believe that much of my thinking has evolved over the last half decade.
Evolved?
It has evolved.
Why did you tweet that?
I don't recall the exact context, sir, so I wouldn't be able to say.
Okay.
Do you believe that America believes in black plunder and white democracy?
I don't believe that, sir.
You tweeted that in reference to a book you were reading at the time,
apparently, The Case for Reparations.
I don't think I've ever read that book, sir.
You tweeted about it.
You said you took a day off
to fully read The Case for Reparations.
You put that on Twitter in January of 2020.
Apologies, I don't recall that I did.
Okay.
It's literally three minutes of this.
Your tweet there is correct, but I don't recall that.
Okay.
Do you believe that white people inherently feel superior to other races?
I do not.
You don't?
You tweeted something to that.
You said, I grew up feeling superior.
Ha, how white of me.
Why did you tweet that? I think I was probably reflecting on what it was to be,
to grow up in an environment where I had lots of advantages.
It sounds like you're saying that white people feel superior.
I don't believe that anybody feels that way, sir.
I was just reflecting on my own experience.
You think that white people should pay reparations?
I have never said that, sir.
Yes, you did.
You said it in January 2020.
You tweeted, yes, the North, yes, all of us, yes, America, yes, our original collective sin and unpaid debt, yes, reparations, yes, on this day.
I don't believe that was a reference to fiscal reparations, sir.
What kind of reparations was it a reference to?
I think it was just a reference to the idea that we all owe much to the people who came before us.
That's a bizarre way to frame what you tweeted.
Okay, how much reparations have you personally paid?
Sir, I don't believe that I've ever paid reparations.
Okay, just for everybody else.
I'm not asking anyone to pay reparations.
Seems to be what you're suggesting.
Do you believe that looting is morally wrong?
I believe that looting is illegal, and I refer to it as counterproductive.
I think it should be prosecuted. Do you believe it's morally wrong, though?
Of course.
Of course.
Then why did you refer to it as counterproductive?
It's a very different way to describe it.
It is both morally wrong and counterproductive, as well as being illegal.
You tweeted, it's hard to be mad about protests in reference to the BLM protests not prioritizing the private property of a system of oppression.
Jesus.
You didn't condemn the looting.
You said that it was counterproductive.
NPR also promoted a book called Indefensibility.
Jesus, man.
Yeah, it's just three minutes of that straight. I love his smirk, though. I love his smirk. He's already dead. Jesus, man. Yeah, it's just three minutes of that straight.
I love his smirk, though.
I love his smirk.
He's so got it.
The best is when she's like, I never said it.
He goes, yeah, you did.
Yes, he did.
You tweeted it right here.
That's NPR.
That's the CEO of NPR.
I wish I had known by then to stop saying I never said that.
Oh, yeah.
He has all these papers, and she can't remember shit.
I'm sure there's nothing else on that.
I'm sure it's just that one.
So she gets asked by Brett Burchett if they've ever conducted a review to see if they have bias in the company.
And she goes, our audience is 33% conservative, which is not answering the question.
But that also indicts her.
Why isn't your audience 50% conservative?
If you're an unbiased thing, why wouldn't it be roughly equal?
Well, her argument is that because it's it's 30 republican 30 independent 30 democrat all right
okay right and she's but here's the thing republicans she believes because republicans
watch or listen to npr that means they're not biased republicans complain all day and night
about how biased npr is and they still watch because conservatives are trying to get a full perspective on what's going on.
That's why conservatives know what liberals are thinking and liberals think conservatives are insane and evil.
Well, the liberals and you pointed to it there.
The liberals actually think that conservatives are evil.
Right. They think that it is a moral question, that every political question is actually a moral question.
And if you come down in a place that is not where the consensus is, it is because of a character flaw or some kind of defect with the person, totally ignoring the fact that their morals are based on christian principles no no no if it was
a character flaw or something intrinsically defective about the person the liberal would
let it go right because that's what every thief that every every mugging every violent encounter
there was oh no he was from a bad home look at his environment he that can be no no no they they
think you choose to be evil.
They think you've weighed up the pros and cons of both sides.
You go, no, I'm team evil.
And that's what they think.
If they thought there was something wrong with you
that prevented you from arriving at the morally correct liberal perspective,
they'd let it go.
They'd be like, yeah, no, he's fine.
Just from a bad home, whatever.
No, no, no.
They think you know what you're doing,
and they think that you're evil.
And that's what they think.
And they think awareness and choice. Yes. Okay. That's why it was what sultan it's in the uh the story of
the the army officer who stabbed the other guy they they prosecuted so the story was there's an
army officer he gets attacked the guy pulls a knife on him tries to kill him he defends himself
grabs the knife stabs the other guy he gets arrested yeah and they said well the criminal
didn't know better you did you could have fled yeah why didn't you run and he was like the guy was trying to kill me that's how it was in the
soviet union and that's how it is uh anywhere the left is in charge yeah because the the the left
fundamental position remember is that society is inevitable and it makes people bad and if you're
therefore society itself is something there's something wrong with it right and if you're
paying your taxes if you're following the law you you're obeying the rules, and you're doing okay out of it,
well, then you're just complicit with the evil society, right?
The people who aren't following the laws are the ones who have been made bad by society.
So the evil society has turned them into this, and therefore that person is a victim of the evil society that you prop up with your tax, with your obedience.
Because you know better. That's why you've got to break rocks. And remember, you're choosing to be evil in this evil society that you prop up with your text with your obedience because you know
better that's why you got to break rocks and remember you're choosing to be evil in this evil
society that's why they hate you so much you know what i love uh just how mathematically stupid
the communism is i mean obviously in a variety of ways it's very stupid but you know from each
according to their ability to each according to their need like that's theft well but it's also
mathematically just stupid you know let's do the math on this you got 10 people in a room
and you're like eight of them produce nothing but they need you know 100 of the resources per person
okay well you just die you said everything's literally falls apart even if they only need
those doesn't work even if each one only needed a tenth of the resources How's it just to make two people provide resources for another eight people?
Oh, I don't care about that.
I mean, I understand that point.
I'm just saying if we're doing simple math and it's like, OK, we got 100 people in a room or in a farm, 50 of them can grow just enough food for themselves.
The other 50 can only grow half.
It's like, OK, well, people are going to die.
Twenty five people probably are going to starve to death that's communism it's literally what happens every time
because the math will just tell you that it's like one plus one equals two but they try you
know bless their hearts they keep trying while they stand in a pile of dead bodies the thing is
is it's not about anything to do with what you're talking about which is reality practical concerns
right no no But you laugh.
It's entirely a sort of utopian moral dream
that they're following.
And it's every single time.
It's always the same dream.
And there's a reason that the liberals
and the communists basically look the same
at this point in time.
Like, what's the actual difference
between, like, you know, Nancy Pelosi
and, like, some, you know, AOC?
AOC hasn't had enough time to insider trade to $200 million.
Morally, I meant, not financially.
But morally, they want the same things.
They all want the same things.
And because it all kind of harmonizes into the same philosophy at the end of the day.
So let's get into the philosophy here.
We'll start with this story from uh the white house ladies and gentlemen the white house posted
a studio ghibli meme of a morbidly obese criminal illegal immigrant being arrested by i assume tom
homan is this i just want to this is from the united states white house carl this is what our
white house is doing i've seen awesome studio so uh okay so this is a couple stories you've got this fentanyl dealer arrested
the white house announced this a week ago and then the studio ghibli memes go viral where people are
loading photos into chet gpt and saying to recreate it in the style of studio ghibli
so the white house made an image of a crying morbidly obese fentanyl drug dealer criminal
legal alien being arrested and this this is I'm for it.
And of course, the leftists have taken the side that that this is morally reprehensible.
And that, of course, the the fentanyl dealing, multiple time arrested, illegal criminal.
Look at the service here.
So it's a tender to the girl.
Girl, look at what the serfs responded with.
You want to read that?
Can you read it?
Yes.
That's a very interesting thing
for him to say
as an avowed atheist,
I'm sure.
He says,
none of you will see
the kingdom of heaven.
Yeah.
I really love the meme
where it's like,
I forgot exactly
what the quote is,
but I reject your backwards views.
Your religion is offensive to me,
but I'll appeal to it
because maybe then you'll do
what I tell you to do.
That's exactly what they do.
Kids watch Studio Ghibli.
This is just hilarious.
I mean, they're great movies.
They are.
You know, you got Howl's Moving Castle, right?
I've never seen a single one.
Really?
Yeah.
I think I tweeted at you,
Howl's Moving Castle.
I will watch them, though,
because I've had so many people,
oh, you should watch this, this, this.
So I will.
I mean, they're kind of just silly fairy tales there's no right exactly that's why i think they're
great but they're not built around the same catty conflict that most american shit is is built
around it's actually it's it's got more depth than that yeah like uh howl's moving castle is
the sorcerer has a castle that walks and then a witch curses a young lady to be old. And you're
like, well, that happened. It's fun.
Ponyo, my cousin Totoro.
There's some really good ones.
My neighbor Totoro. Kiki's Delivery Service,
Princess Mononoke, Spirited Away.
There's so many good ones.
Can I be the
fun police? Fun police? No.
What's going on? I don't think this is wise.
Why not?
A couple of things. First things first. Fun police. Fun police? No. What's going on? I don't think this is wise. Why not? Okay.
So a couple of things.
So first things first.
I've never seen a Studio Ghibli film, but everyone loves them.
And it seems to be they have a kind of nostalgia about them.
There's something kind of dreamy and nice about them.
And have you seen the memes?
The Studio Ghibli memes yeah yeah i've seen everybody
loves studio ghibli and everybody is posting these memes i know and there's like some of the most
vile imagery imaginable gibblified i know 9-11 gibblified i know you're saying it's poor poor
taste no it's not that it's poor taste it's that this is tapping into the sentimental nostalgic side of a person's
brain and what this does is actually frame the fentanyl dealer as what appears to be a sympathetic
victim if you didn't know anything about the backstory i see what you're saying. Why is this mean man arresting this poor, obese woman of color?
She's crying, and I guess she's getting deported.
There should be cartoon fentanyl.
Yeah.
So if you don't know anything about it, this just looks quite mean, right, if you're from the outside.
There's a second thing as well, which is there's – political capital is never static, right?
You're either gaining it or losing it.
And when you take responsible actions that people who don't like you can't help but show respect to, you're gaining it, right?
When you are doing something that you know the other side hates but you think it needs to be done anyway, you're losing it. You burn it up. This is something the other side hates, but it doesn't
really do anything. So it's an expense in political capital that isn't really very wise,
because what this does to people who are not heavily on the internet like us is make them
think, why is there a childish zoomer in charge of the White House official communications?
This doesn't make me think well of the trump administration generally and therefore you lose a lot more political capital than you might think
maybe uh i think also one thing to consider is this is a hyper online thing i mean if you're
not online you're not seeing this post sure but then they'll write a bunch of news articles about
this they were like the white house official communications are now mocking poor obese fentanyl
dealers and look at the crying face well they wouldn't they would say asylum seeker you know
whatever it is right but but but i wonder with this it's um how much have they how much goodwill
have they lost because they've lied so much and additionally does the white house use the strategy
of get them to complain to annoy the base possibly their base
possibly but the the problem i think that trump uh the trump administration is showing at the
moment and this is a genuine form of weakness i think could be avoided and i say this as someone
who's been a trump partisan since 2016 right so i'm not you know i don't think anyone would ever
accuse me of not supporting trump hard enough um but he i i went a couple years ago i went to a conference in miami and curtis yarvin
of all people were speaking there he's like look the republicans need a plan to literally own the
libs because if you come back and you win a superb victory they're going to be under your dominion
right you're going to be the ones making decisions for
them and you can either make good decisions that actually make everyone's lives better and leave
them in a position where they have to admit that you have done good things or you can wind them up
for four years and hang on and and and end up burning up a bunch of political capital that you'll carry as baggage afterwards.
And it seems actually the Trump administration is kind of going in the wrong direction there.
It would actually be more sensible if they had a proper plan to own the libs.
What if this is the muzzle velocity that Steve Bannon was talking about?
Sorry, go on. Tell me what you were saying there.
Well, just the muzzle velocity of thing after thing after thing,
so the other side doesn't know what to even address.
Yeah, but the thing is, it's not really about the other side,
because the other side, no matter what happens,
they're going to be entrenched activists against everything you do for every reason.
The issue is essentially not to give them an easy win.
This stuff is giving them an easy win,
even if everyone hates them and everyone does hate the Democrats,
they don't hate the Democrats so much that they don't care what the sitting
administration does.
And that doesn't reflect on them.
And it's not that this,
you know,
no one of these things is going to be a dramatic drop,
but it's about the slow,
gradual whittling away of the political capital that the Trump administration
had really built up
and you are right about the sort of flood the zone thing that is good in a situation where you
need to keep your opponent off their feet but there is still a collective effect which is
why are they being sort of childish and chaotic why aren't they being authoritative and responsible
maybe this will result in them writing a bunch of stories
and defending a fentanyl dealer, which they can then respond with, you're defending a criminal,
illegal alien fentanyl dealer. Yeah. But the problem is it's not really about the individual,
the actual battlefield of what the person did. The problem is it's about the character of the
people engaged in the fights. And what the Trump administration should be doing at the moment is demonstrating
higher character than the Democrats, which
is not hard to do. And the thing is, I believe
that the Trump administration has
higher character than the Democrats. Because I know
several of them myself. I'm friends with a bunch of them.
I'm friends with a bunch of the people around them.
And I like everyone in this sphere.
But the problem is, I think that a lot of you guys have been in the trenches
for a long time, right?
And when you've been in the trenches, you've been under constant fire from the Democrats.
It's nice to have these wins.
Now you've got the leaves of power.
But the thing is, a lot of the country is not an entrenched MAGA Republican, right?
And yet they still lent their votes to Trump because they're like, no, Trump is the guy to fix problems.
And he is.
He is fixing loads of problems.
But I'm so jealous of Doge.
I'm so jealous of what he's doing on the border.
I'm so jealous of what he's doing just cutting down the state in general and just making america a more potent force in the world this kind of thing detracts from that and it
becomes a kind of stain on what is otherwise a cavalcade of glory and there's no reason not to
actually really sort of step into the role of no we, we are the saviors of the West here.
We don't need to be pratting around.
We're not even just going to crush our opponents.
That's already happened.
We're going to show them how a good future is going to be,
and it doesn't need that.
It doesn't need that sort of thing.
I see what you're saying.
I largely agree.
It's not funny either.
It is funny, but it's like there is a bigger concern.
I do think that while I agree and I understand what you're saying, I do think it's not funny either it is funny but it's like there is a bigger concern i do think
that uh while i while i agree and i understand what you're saying i do think it's really minimal
the the bigger thing that trump has done the biggest things he's done one gutting usa id
which is how a lot of these lawyers and legal firms were having money run through ngos but
requiring citizenship for voting we might not have to worry so much for two big reasons. Even Ezra Klein has come out and said
the 2030 census is going to shift so many congressional seats away from Democrats in
blue states towards red that the fascinating thing about elections is that if one person
switches their vote from, say, Ben to Carl, it doesn't create a one point swing, it's a two
point swing. So when California loses three and New York gains three, it doesn't create a one-point swing. It creates a two-point swing.
So when California loses three and New York gains three,
you've now got a six-point difference that is extremely,
is much more difficult for them to overcome in terms of earning more votes in their states or in other states.
That's coming no matter what.
And the 2020 census was done wrong.
Everybody's talking about it, saying there's going to be a correction.
Ezra Klein made a video where he basically said, even if Kamala Harris ended up winning like North
Carolina and Pennsylvania, she still would lose with the new electoral map. So while I respect
what you're saying. Hang on, hang on. So this, this, I agree that that is all true. But there's,
there's a kind of, there's a kind of calcification in the mindset of American political commentary when it comes to this kind of flipping on the map.
Because what Trump showed is that people actually change their mind, right?
Lots of people actually do change their mind and swing from one way to another.
They actually decide, no, I'm going over.
So, like, just changing the demographics as the
democrats discovered isn't enough actually because a lot of those people can be persuaded over to the
donald trump side to make america great right so it's not that you're wrong obviously you're
completely correct about that do you but it's just like extra layers of things that could go wrong
for the republicans do you think the argument changed the people's minds or do you think that
the actual conditions on the ground is what changed people's minds or do you think that the actual conditions on the
ground is what changed people's minds because it's my sense that they didn't like what they saw from
the biden administration less than conservatives made arguments that they were convinced by i think
it's both things i mean the argument that you make it not only attracts the people who already agree
with that obviously and anyone who is potentially going to be persuaded by it on its own merits in in the abstract but it also stakes out your position right so you say no look we are
the party of law and order we're the party of borders we're the party of doing things right
they're the party of evil and they come out and go yes we're the party of evil this is our evil
constituency and so it if things are bad under the party of evil then they can always go over to the
republicans and the MAGA base.
And so you've always got that kind of castle there that people can run to as refugees politically.
So it's not that the individual argument makes the difference.
It's just that you set yourself up as an alternative that they can choose and did in large numbers.
You know, I mean, Trump winning the popular vote, like the Democrats hanging their head in shame.
You can tell because they were so proud
that Trump lost the popular vote the first time around.
It's like, no, you've got nothing now.
Yeah.
You know?
But the point being,
the MAGA people running the White House think
what they should be posting,
if they want to post like memetic stuff on the internet,
is almost kind of,
I'm not superhero,
but you know what I mean?
Like something noble, you know, is what they should be posting, I think, rather than memes.
I mean, let your base post the memes.
You know, like, you know, in the group chat where they have the America with the shield and the sword?
Yeah.
That's fine.
So how about, it would have been acceptable if, or in your estimation, would it have been fine if J.D. Vance posted that from his account?
He's the vice president.
The thing is about Vance is that he's a really credible guy.
He's a really good talker.
He looks responsible.
He's a dad.
He's got the right aura about him.
He could sit down in a room full of – he could go on The View and mollify their fears.
He shouldn't be memeing either.
And it's not that I don't like memes or anything like that.
What it is about, what's the outside perception of that?
I get what you're saying, yeah.
Sorry.
I was thinking of the administrative tactics outside of all this.
Sorry, go on.
The administrative things that Trump has done
may result in Democrats never winning again.
Or at least it's not this iteration.
And then you take on Gallup's polling.
You get NBC, you get CNN showing Democrats at record low disapproval ratings, 29 percent, 27 percent.
Another poll coming out showing it's at 26 percent.
Gallup showing that 51 percent of the Democratic Party either wanted to stay the same or move further left.
And so while the argument from Gallup is a plurality wants moderation, that doesn't get to the big picture of the Democratic
Party. Forty five percent, according to Gallup, say be more moderate. Twenty two percent say stay
the same. Twenty nine percent say move the left, move to the left, go left. But here's the thing.
They're currently insane. So if if if if we're talking about how the Democrats win,
moderating is how they win.
But if 22 percent are like, let's keep being as crazy as we are and 29 percent says, let's be crazier than that.
That's the direction they're going to go. And then they're not going to be able to win.
And then, you know, depending on what happens in the next year with Trump gutting their resources and these executive orders, their schemes may end as well.
So we may actually see – this will be interesting.
Rosie O'Donnell says that Elon Musk owns and controls the internet and that Trump is the first president to ever win every swing state.
Okay.
Well, maybe Elon does, but Elon says he thinks we can get to 60 senators.
I would love to see it.
I would love to see it. I would love to see it.
But the thing is, remember, the Democrats were like, oh, look at the demographics of Texas.
Look at the demographics of wherever.
We're going to bust a load of illegals in there.
You're never going to win again.
It's going to be Democrat rule forever at the end of the Republicans.
And that didn't happen, right?
So I'm not saying that you're wrong.
Obviously, all of the things you're saying are accurate.
But it's all predicated on people just not having a change of heart.
Right. Not necessarily.
Donald Trump revoked.
Do you see this story?
Five hundred and thirty thousand legal immigration statuses from from migrants.
So it was a ploy.
Biden said, if you can get a sponsor, you can come.
And five hundred and thirty thousand people came in.
Trump said, you're out.
Trump's not not only kicking out the illegal immigrants, the criminals, the gangs,
he's kicking out people who are given temporary protected status. He's getting rid of people who
came here legally under a Biden policy. And he's revoking student visas for people who are anti
Israel. So he's booting a lot of people. This is going to this is going to. So maybe, you know, maybe he doesn't make it to 26.
Who knows?
This is going to be a long battle for the next five years, which will impact 2030 midterms.
So 2032 will be the true test.
But based on what we're seeing, I've got no reason to believe that Democrats can muster
up anything to counter Trump.
That being said, I understand your point on don't be a child you
need you like we are watching donald trump's march to the sea on the deep state don't deviate with
silly you know childish things don't mess around don't take risks because you don't know what
tomorrow you know tomorrow some you know democrat whiz kid could come up and be like oh look in 2028
i'll be 35 or whatever harry sisson yeah yeah not him uh but you know and he might have
superb rhetoric and actually a new form of argumentation that is just very persuasive to
people and suddenly you find yourself on the defensive when you're like well how did this
happen these kind of reverses happen all the time yeah trump is it exactly trump's a great example
of it right so it's just don't don't be arrogant don't be conceited
do the job properly uh but be confident you know be responsible and you can win did you what did
people say they posted a video saying uh jd vance was planting freedom seeds on the range with the
marines you see the video no no i didn't see our we got this is the best best vice president i've
ever had in my life jd vD. Vance was at the range.
He was shooting at the range with Marines.
And they said he got a headshot.
I don't know how many yards it was.
But to see the vice president actually working with the troops, knowing what he's doing.
I'm a huge fan of military leadership in the executive branch.
Donald Trump doesn't get a special pass
from me in this regard.
The dude is our first president
with no political military experience
or anything like that, just business.
But it's okay.
It's okay.
We take what we can get.
J.D. Vance is great.
So, you know, people have been getting really excited
seeing things like this and speeches he's been given
that maybe actually he will step up in 2028
and be the guy.
Yeah.
Well, let's jump to the story from the Postmillennial.
Man arrested for targeted attack at Las Vegas Tesla Center, according to police.
Police said the Molotov cocktails were used in order to set several fires,
to set fire to several Teslas.
They got him, ladies and gentlemen.
There he is.
He has a big beard.
Exactly as I expected.
Actual communist.
Actual communist.
Paul Kim was arrested Wednesday, charged with arson as well as possessing an explosive device.
I think he's facing, what, 20 years?
Good.
And is this federal or is this state?
I think this might be just state, right?
I don't know, but...
He was arrested on Wednesday.
Police said Vegas.
Yeah, Las Vegas Metro.
Means federal charges are coming next.
Good.
This dude's going away for a long time.
I mean, he's a terrorist.
Yep.
Indeed.
And there's many more.
Here's a video of a man smearing dog feces on a cyber truck.
And then we've got another one.
I think it's here we go.
So I tweeted.
This proves low IQ at this point.
Tesla's have cameras.
They are lacking the cognitive faculties to understand check this
out by glances over at the car and moments later they return and quickly start keying the passenger
she's writing something with a phone in the other hand she looks like a good video too like
they're actively wrong with like starting to record and recording the whole thing you can
easily tell this is a targeted like there's intent there, you know, kind of a mockery of it, right?
It's a camera, dude.
Seconds later, the vandal runs off.
The owners, who asked to remain anonymous, notice the damage about a half hour later
and say since then they have felt unsettled and somewhat fearful.
These are felonies.
Yeah.
These people are all going to prison for a long, long time.
Now, Carl, you said they're leftists.
Agreed.
Let that be a synonym for cognitively disabled or developmentally disabled.
We all agreed.
Indeed, because as I also, as I was mentioning earlier, the math doesn't add up at all.
Let's get a bunch of people who don't produce as much as they need and see what happens.
And what?
You'd starve to death.
And then is it any wonder that every time communism happens, they starve to death?
No.
No.
It's consistent result from that kind of mindset.
You know, I see I'm making the mistake of projecting my intelligence onto other people.
When I say, but Teslas have cameras, I have an IQ above 70 and can notice cameras on Teslas.
They cannot.
If it helps, I didn't know Teslas had cameras either.
Really?
Well, yeah, because I don't have one or anything.
I don't know.
I just didn't think about it, right?
It just never came up because why would would i that's how they auto drive car but honestly not not not to sound disparaging to the uk but car ownership as is not as common in
the uk as it is in the us i mean everyone has a car in the uk no i thought no i thought that people
i thought that people used a lot of public transportation or used more public transportation
yeah but that doesn't mean they don't have cars as well right um but the i, I mean, I just didn't know anything about Teslas mechanically, right?
So I didn't know that they were recording all the time around them,
but it's not a problem for me because I'm not going to vandalize them.
Yeah, I can pull up my phone right now and I can look at the cameras.
Right, right.
That's awesome.
I know, it's pretty cool because sometimes I'm waiting for like a delivery.
Yeah.
And like my car's parked up front and I'm like, let's see what happens.
They're sick. So would that mean it's always tracking like it's always recording apparently yeah you can
turn it on and off from your cell phone yeah but like if the owners found out 30 minutes later yeah
they they have they have a security system called sentry mode so if it notices movement it starts
oh my phone goes off that's brilliant so uh if if found it like i was at the mall a few months ago walking
around and my phone goes brr brr brr brr and it's like tesla security alarm activated and then i was
like i looked and it was nothing i think like uh a semi-truck drove to the parking lot and everything
shook and then the alarm went off i was like okay uh but it's it's pretty wild because when you look
at those waymos and other electric cars, they got cameras everywhere.
So I would just assume if people were looking at an electric car like a Tesla, they self-drive.
But I guess fair point.
I mean, these people don't pay attention.
They don't know.
It's not their world.
And they see cars and they're like, get them.
If you're not a tech guy, why would you know?
I mean.
Well, even the other day, me and Tim were in the Cybertruck driving over to Martinsburg,
and I'm just sitting at the red light waiting to take a left, kind of just zoning out.
And I look over, and there's this lady just pissed, just pointing, yelling, screaming.
I'm like, yo, Tim, check this out.
We got some thumb downs.
That was fun.
We got a few pretty bummed out people.
We high-fived.
We're like, yeah!
And then we talked about how punk rock we were.
Yeah, we were super douchey. Did you get the sticky? I got this after I figured out Elon was based. We were like, yeah! And then we talked about how punk rock we were. Yeah, we were super huge.
Did you get the sticky?
I got this after I figured out Elon was based.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
That's what I was joking I was going to say.
It's like we parked, and I was like, if anyone comes up to me, I'm going to be like,
guys, I had no idea that Elon would be this crazy when I bought it.
But that's why I did.
I just got it recently.
He's awesome.
If only I had known.
The truck gets more attention than the cars, though, because the Cybertruck
does stick out so much, whereas if you're driving an S or a Y or whatever, they're more
nondescript.
I don't get those looks in my Tesla, and I kind of wish that I had a Cybertruck just
so I could get those looks.
Just put a big Tesla sign on it.
I know, right?
There was a guy who uh it was like a
meme and someone not put a swastika on a cyber truck and then he tweeted am i legally required
to have this removed well like you you saw that that joke i posted you and you you elaborated on
it i was like if these people actually thought tesla owners were nazis they'd be doing them
favors but i i was like we should do a skit where like a neo-nazi is in his living room like
watching these crazy videos of hitler whatever then his alarm goes off on his tesla and he runs
outside and he sees him spray painting he's like what are you doing and they're like i'm putting
a swastika on your car you nazi and then he goes thanks you you are well thank you looks great
looks great although to be honest they don't know how to draw them so it'd be weird squiggly
lines they'd be like you got it all wrong yeah well here's the crazy thing you'd think this
would stop with the reports of people like okay i just gotta say the reason why i said
this proves low iq at this point is because we've seen so many of these already that by now someone
might be like oh they have cameras and everyone's going
to prison that that guy with the diy uh the diy four-wheeler rammed into a bunch of cyber trucks
got arrested and there's a video of him but it's still happening you know what i think it's maybe
maybe low iq whatever it shows these people don't actually watch the news, don't pay attention. All they know is Spaceman bad and Orange Man bad.
Or do you think that they believe that they're martyrs?
Like, oh, this is, I'm an activist.
This is, because I feel like you'd have to know now that this is not going to be tolerated.
Some of them, like, you think, Carl, that they're like, I'm going to go to jail for this.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, look at the, who's the guy who set himself on fire palestine right yeah don't remember his name no i'm frick i don't
i i don't even i'm not even trying to dunk on the guy because well i i just thought oh this is some
poor brainwashed kid right who's just spent far too much time on the internet and now his parents
are gonna have to find out that for some you know the the palestinians don't give a shit about this
guy i never heard of him and now he's dead and that's your kid dead. And I'm like, oh, Jesus Christ, man.
Eric Bushman?
Whatever.
But, like, the leftists, they're cheering it on, right?
And it's like, I don't know his name.
I see Phil's looking at me.
I'm like, I'm trying to remember.
I know it, but I'm not going to say it.
To me, I think, like, the martyr thing doesn't track as much as they're in a different part of their brain.
They're emotional.
You can see it written all over them.
They're not accessing the same kind of logic that other people are,
whether that's most of the time they're in that space
or just something happens when they see a Cybertruck.
They're not accessing their logic.
What if we took these people and we brought them somewhere,
perhaps like a camp where we could teach them things
they don't quite understand that they missed in their education, perhaps like a re where we could teach them things they don't quite understand
that they missed in their education, perhaps like a re-education camp. Would that work?
I mean, it's the only option you've got left because these people have got nowhere else to go.
What were you saying earlier about hooking them up to AI and mapping their brain and
reading and writing?
We were talking about this before the show. I was saying that one of the challenges with
Neuralink is everybody's brain is different.
We have similar structure genetically,
but everyone's brain is a computer
that essentially organically develops.
So its variables are going to be
a million times different from brain to brain.
So you're going to need AI to configure a Neuralink
to connect to someone's brain.
So you can put the electrodes on the brain, but the brain's got to figure out how to navigate that.
The computer's got to figure out how to navigate each individual brain.
So in that regard, once we do that, and I think we're very close to it, we can rewrite their brains.
So you don't need to take them to a camp.
You just bring the camp to them because technology distributes that.
I got to be honest, as much as I don't like these psychopaths,
I would not be in favor of a society that sentences people to have their brains reprogrammed by Neuralink.
That would be horrifying.
It'd be a cool home film.
Reprogram the old-fashioned way, that's fine, just not by Neuralink.
My problem is anti-technological.
Exactly.
I'm a Luddite. we can sit him in a room
put those things on their eyes that keep them open exactly and play films
all day every day but don't put ai into it because that's wrong yeah what if people were
given the option they were like you can go to prison for 20 years for arson or we will erase
the violent tendencies
using a mind probe.
No, they've got to do the prison.
They have to do the prison.
Yeah, you did the...
That's an ethical probably thing.
Exactly.
Could you ask them?
There is a moral debt that incurs
in every wrong that they do.
But that's illogical, isn't it?
No.
They go to prison for 20 years,
there's no guarantee
they could just come out more radicalized.
I don't care.
They have to go to prison for 20 years
because they did something wrong. Okay, what if it's prison for two years with reprogramming? Well just come out more radicalized i don't care they have to go to prison for 20 years because they did something wrong okay what if it's present for
two years with reprogramming well it depends what the crime was right but what if what if it's two
years of public works where you have to you're basically an indentured servant to the state
to pay off your moral debt and then before before you start the service they reprogram your brain
to erase the violent tendencies and then you you do work to
fix things maybe i'm not uh i'm not going to legislate the uh exact thing now but the point
is they have to pay their debt through suffering i don't agree with that it's illogical it seems
emotional i'm not saying it's not emotional but the point is it's what they have to do
so because whenever well that's not an argument of course it is right you've hurt someone
right you actually know penalty or rehabilitation?
Well, when has rehabilitation ever been the outcome?
That's why I'm saying if we can rewire their brain with an AI brain chip, you're done.
The thing is about rehabilitation is that it's the wrong way to look at it because it kind of acts as if they're not really responsible for what they did right so is if we can just change
the way that you act and the way you think then you're you know it's because then it's kind of
getting on the well it wasn't really your fault there's something wrong with the way your brain
was wired rather than treating them as a moral agent who made a decision who now has to suffer
the penalty and pay the consequences right and that's kind of building off of BF Skinner behavioral psychology of there's a variable ratio reward schedule or a penal system. And the penal system actually works less at changing behavior than a reward or variable ratio reward system. So to me, it really comes down to like, do you think they need to incur suffering more than they need to come out of whatever period you put them into
as a better citizen yeah absolutely because the the issue the issue with the kind of utilitarian
calculus is that it makes you forget that the purpose of punishing them is to make sure they
need they know they did something wrong and provide the catharsis for the rest for the
victims of their behavior so how about we we settle on the island
when you commit a crime you get sent to the island there's i don't care what's there that's it you're
just there and you can't come back that's good that was australia how effectively that's literally
what it was we have cameras on it this time like can we see you know it's been tried into and look
how successful it is.
Wasn't that Escape from L.A.?
Wasn't that the whole thing?
That's how America started as well.
We send our criminals to America.
Is that what you think?
In our story,
we were the great heroes who fled.
Ah, well, there we go.
Look, in the
situation of criminals and stuff like that like part of
why we put criminals in jail isn't because there's any hope of you know reforming or anything like
that it's just taking someone that's dangerous off the street and putting them away so i don't
know that that reform should be an actual point.
I think taking them off, if they do get reformed, great.
If they do their time and they come out and they're like, you know what?
I learned and I changed and I'm blah, blah, blah, fine.
But I think the most important thing is taking them out of society where they're a danger.
Do you know, Carl Benjamin, why we call uh people say they say
the wind turbines they call them windmills um well i mean i assume it's going to be something
to do with the fact that we used to grind flour with windmill indeed so a treadmill do you know
what a treadmill is uh i have been acquainted with them in the past but i hate them so uh what is it well i'm
gonna guess it's something that used to be used to grind flour indeed it was a prison punishment
oh they would put people on a giant cylinder with uh wood planks and you'd step and you'd
keep walking forward and it was a it was a it was it was punishment so if you committed a crime
they would take you put you on it and make you walk for hours every single day until you
collapsed.
And it would be milling the flour for the rest of the community.
And you were,
your hands were tied as you walked and you couldn't stop.
It was a tread walking mill.
That's a great idea.
And then one day they were like,
let's make one of those because people are lazy and need to get exercise.
It's a great idea.
Well,
I mean,
the idea was that you were paying your debt to society by doing labor for the community. because people are lazy and need to get exercise. It's a great idea. That's also a good idea, to be honest.
The idea was that you were paying your debt to society
by doing labor for the community.
But the point being that every time you commit a crime against society,
you incur a debt that you need to pay off.
I just want to give a shout-out to whoever invented the windmill,
where they were like, hey, let's make this big thing that spins in the wind,
rotates a gear, and then mashes up our wheat.
It's because water mill's more consistent.
Pretty sure that was the judge.
That's true.
Water mill.
We've never advanced a water mill linguistically into anything else.
We don't say, like, you know, go buy me a water mill.
Like, we have a treadmill and we have windmills.
I do think it's funny when people look at wind turbines
and they're like, windmills.
Additionally, I think it's funny when people say wind turbine turbines and they're like windmills additionally i think it's funny when say when people say wind turbine is as fast as they can when they're talking
generally and they say winterbine like winter bine what a wind turbine i just hate the fact
that we're so obsessed with them it's like you know oh god we've got to have these giant ugly
things that only function like 30 of the time and they kill birds when yeah they kill yeah they kill
birds when nuclear power exists and we're constantly you know it runs like 99 of the time. And they kill birds. Yeah, they kill birds. When nuclear power exists and we're constantly,
it runs like 99% of the time,
and it's so much more productive.
No one ever accused the left of being smart.
Yeah.
I just want to say, I think it's Microsoft,
they're starting back up Three Mile Island.
When I was in the military,
I worked right next to it at the 193rd.
Wow.
And they're starting it back up for, I think, AI.
Really?
Mm-hmm. Oh, really interesting it's coming back yeah what do you think about uh ai carl i think the genie's out of the bottle
right you know the devil's been summoned so with with all this studio ghibli stuff that's coming
out uh people are taking the studio ghibli memes and they're putting them into other AIs
that turn them into videos.
Then you've got the AI voice generator.
I think we are,
it's closer than we realize
because I was saying like in a couple of years,
you're going to be able to go,
Disney is not going to be Disney anymore.
It's going to be an IP storage locker basically.
So if you go on a chat GPT and you say like,
hey, make me an image of Spider-Man,
they'll say, can't do that.
But if Disney pays for a license for GPT
on their servers, you can.
So I think we're really close
to a company like Disney.
And Disney, if you're listening,
here you go.
You open up Disney+,
you've got all your shows,
and then it's got make your own show.
And you'll click it and you'll say,
I want to watch a Spider-Man movie with Tobey Maguire,
but the villains, like, I want Vulture in it
and I want Venom in it.
And not Topher Grace Venom, Tom Hardy Venom.
And give me Mary Jane and Gwen
and give me like a lover's tryst.
It'll generate it and then you'll get to watch that movie.
That is going to be all entertainment.
Have you not seen Elon doing the AI video game generation?
Eventually, it's all going to be tailor-made to the individual preference.
Bespoke.
But that's going to have some serious knock-on effects, right?
Because, I mean, one of the ways that we relate to one another is shared cultural experiences.
If people don't have shared cultural experiences anymore, what the hell are we going to one another is shared cultural experiences if people don't have shared cultural
experiences anymore what the hell are we going to talk about yes i refer to this as the severance
phenomenon oh really yes where uh people desperately try to make a show happen despite
the fact that it's not succeeding i haven't watched this at all so so uh i actually i i don't
know if we we need to call it the sever phenomenon, but it is a good term for society.
Every individual severing from every other individual.
But the issue I take with severance is that it's not a bad show.
It's just not a good show.
It's like it's on in the background and you're like, okay.
And periodically going.
What's it about?
Sorry.
There's a company where you sever your work personality from your personal life.
My wife told me about this. There's a company where you sever your work personality from your personal life.
My wife told me about this. So at work, you have no recollection of your life.
You don't know anything that's going on.
Outside of work, you have no recollection of being in work and who works with you and what you're doing.
And the show is kind of, eh.
It's one of those shows you put on in the background, but everybody's raving about it.
And so they say the issue is that Apple's burning a billion dollars a year.
They're claiming to have these big award-winning shows, but for some reason, nobody will watch them.
And I'm like, yes, OK, it's not succeeding. They argue that it's because the water cooler effect.
You need a show where people the next day at work go to each other and say, did you watch the show?
There's two problems here. Remote working people, people are not at work anymore. So they're
not talking about these things with each other. The other issue is, as you mentioned, everyone's
getting a tailor made cultural experience. So for Apple to produce this show with a massive budget,
you need a certain amount of individuals to pay into it. It may be a good show, but not enough people like it to
sustain it because, well, let's be honest, some people watching this show right now probably don't
watch any TV shows. They literally just watch Timcast videos because I produce five hours per
day of content. It's nuts. You see, I'm losing my voice. It's five hours. I'm not even kidding.
Now we're doing the hour show on the Rumble mornings and I just add another hour in the day.
I'll probably explode at some point. But everybody, I did warn you about burnout.
But it's not burnout. It's physical exhaustion. I didn't mean. Yeah, it can be literally anything.
But it's OK. I get NAD every two weeks, which is, you know, immortality serum, which just that's the secret, I guess.
I'm actually half kidding. But to your point about this cultural discohesion or whatever the word would be,
the more we get into a decentralization of culture,
the epic works, the AAA games, the blockbuster movies will cease to exist.
Everything's going to go low budget.
AI is going to help pick up the slack to a certain degree.
But, I mean, look at these movies that come out of Netflix. They're not the big blockbusters
anymore. Look at the risk they took with Snow White. Massive bomb. $600 million estimated in
reshoots in the initial budget reshoots and marketing. And it's made $92 million. It's not
expected to make back any of its money. Rachel Zegler. 92 million. 92 million so far internationally.
With the name Snow White attached to it.
Indeed.
It had a lot of problems.
Yeah, I believe it.
But let's break this down.
What were the problems?
Rachel Zegler's cultural identity is an affront to a large portion of Americans.
And the film was trying to avoid being ableist with the dwarves.
So incorporating the seven bandits.
But then everyone got offended by that.
So they tried to do it every way possible.
They said, OK, we need the nostalgia factor.
So we got to do the dwarves.
No, but we can't because ableist that do CGI little gremlin things.
OK, but what are the people still going to get mad?
Then put bandits in it instead.
OK, well, now they did both, quite literally both.
There's the seven bandits and the seven dwarves, which makes no sense.
There's no prince anymore because princes are offensive.
Disney tried to make a film that would somehow latch onto every cultural identity in this country, and they got nothing for it.
So as we talk about the culture war, that's the big picture of the left and the right.
At the base, look at video games. Video games can't muster the same audiences anymore they're getting released uh few and far between you need so in order to make a massive production
you need a mass amount of people to lend their resources to that production it's not happening
anymore so i think, to your
point of what you were saying, once we get into
this AI-generated entertainment world, which we're
already almost there with video games,
imagine you've got Baldur's Gate.
Take the code of Baldur's Gate,
load it into an AI,
and then say, give me a new version
of this with new characters and a new story.
It breaks the whole thing down and then rewrites
a new version of it just for you. Who will you talk to about it nobody who would care right who would
care there'd be nothing oh this interesting thing happened in my ai generated game okay so in mine
as well it's like explaining a dream to somebody there's no shared value or principles embedded
into the story to talk about but also it kind of goes around the it there's a there's a real problem
with just ai generating content anyway which is on almost the kind of spiritual level which is
whenever whenever you're like the purpose of all art is to transmit a message and it's to tell the
other person who's receiving it something about the human condition right and this is what me and
phil were talking about just before the podcast like music is algorithmic but there's always something human in the music that makes you want to listen
to it right you know some story in the song uh that makes you want to pay attention so that that's
the the author of that looking into your soul and saying i know something about you and i'm going to
show you something about me and ai destroys that completely it's not just ai this is why multiculturalism doesn't work have you ever seen the videos on youtube
just for a laugh just for laughs gags no so uh they are videos you've seen them cody right
so one example is a little girl and she has a table with four buckets full of coins and she
waves to somebody she points at the buckets. The guy
looks over, walks over. She then grabs two of the buckets and they're very light. She puts them down
and then she like shrugs at the guy and goes and then she points over there to another location.
He turns around and when she does, they spin the whole cart around. She then grabs the ones that
appeared to be on the other side and walks with them. And then the guy tries to grab the coins
and he can't. And he's looking at her carrying these coins.
So they're gags, right?
There's no speech.
There's no sound.
It's just literally goofy sounds in the background.
There's laughing and goofy music.
They do this because it's appealing to every person in the world.
Anybody can watch that and understand the gag, if they can't if they don't know the language so what we're getting now with movies that try to sell internationally is everything's being
reduced to the lowest common denominator so you mentioned um you know it comes to music it's
conveying a message pretty sure espresso by Sabrina Carpenter conveys no message at all
I don't know there is a message in. It's just not a very good one.
Right.
Right.
But to be fair,
yes, there is a message,
but it's rudimentary at best.
It is appealing to the downgrade.
That's what it is.
Well, it's appealing to the most amount of people.
So it has to be
like extremely lowest common denominator.
So it's,
you know,
the average person's kind of like,
I get nothing from this actually i
take that back a large portion of the population say this is crass and i get nothing from this
but in general enough people go huh yeah switch it up like nintendo yeah i mean the vulgar culture
appeals to vulgar people right and that's been the way things have always been but the and that's
fine you can have the you know the ai slop for the vulgar crowd that's fine the way things have always been. And that's fine.
You can have the AI slop for the vulgar crowd.
That's fine.
Let them eat the trough if they want.
But it also, it's this constant leveling down effect in all art.
And it's not just music.
It's computer games, movies, it's literature.
When it can all be generated by AI, then it's going to become that you will pay over the odds for something that isn't particularly good but was made sincerely by a human being.
Here's the best part.
How do they train?
So Serge brought this up last week or two weeks ago, that AI can't make an image of a wine glass filled to the brim.
It's because there are no images of wine glasses filled to the brim on the internet. All the wine glasses, you know.
It also can't make images of clocks except for, I think it's something like 1107 or 1007.
1007, all analog clocks. When you go into any AI image generator and say make an image of a clock at
5 15 p.m it'll always put the hands at the exact same places and it'll tell you it's not and the
reason is because of the amalgam of images it's trained off of what happens when we start making
movies music and video games and art from ai and publishing it and then the ai re-ingests that art back into itself
uh the same thing that happens when you cannibalize your species right you start getting
no no really you get criticizing fasciitis or beyond diseases and all this yeah all these
sort of things it's going to be the the artistic equivalent of that yep so what will happen is
the way the way i used to describe the ai future is that 50 years from now, everyone will be wearing a corn costume, but that's normal clothes.
They'll go to the grocery store.
Everything's corn or corn derivative.
They'll go to Old Navy.
Everything is corn.
It's just corn suits.
And for a person in the past, like, why is everybody wearing corn?
Because the United States subsidizes
corn and uses corn products for everything. So a rudimentary AI that was learning about what
people wanted would be like, there is a disproportionate amount of corn production
and corn derivatives in everything. So what it would do is it would start to prioritize
corn for production, for art, for fashion. And then after 50 years, two generations go by,
all that matters is corn
because the AI is just blasting it out.
It's the paperclip maximizer put on attire.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah, paperclip.
That was the other analogy for it, right?
Paperclip maximizer.
Yeah, the paperclip maximizer
where it won't see any consequence to what it's trying to do.
It'll just take even the atoms and just turn everything into a paperclip.
As a way of saying it doesn't understand the impact.
You give it a clear goal.
It'll pave over other things that you want to keep intact.
And what happens is –
Have you ever seen the game, the paperclip maximizing game?
I've heard of it, I think.
Yeah.
Right.
But the issue is that human beings
are being retrained by their own algorithms.
Like Jack Dorsey is a really great example.
He starts Twitter.
He's the free speech wing of the free speech party.
Then on his own platform,
there's this recursive loop of wokeness
because it generates rage.
Rage gets shares.
He then turns into this woke, impaired individual who believes he's consumed his own refuse
from his own machine.
And it altered his mind to the point where we had that Joe Rogan episode, and he genuinely
didn't understand his own biases.
Humans are going to be reprogrammed by the ai then program the ai in turn and create a
recursive loop which will be a spiral down a toilet yeah no that that's the thing that we've
actually been seeing a lot as people conform to the technology whether it's a bicycle or a phone
your posture conforms to it your mind conforms to it it's mind conforms to it. It's just going to – I think it's going to be picking up over the next five to ten years.
And you mentioned the spiritual element.
Something is definitely – for me, culture has always been there's a shared story and impregnated into that story are values that we can sense.
You don't even need to be trained on story to sense it.
And as that starts to degrade,
I don't know if this is causation or correlation,
but we're starting to see that severance happening.
Severance.
Right?
All comes back to this show.
All comes back to this show.
But yeah, I think you're completely correct.
Let's talk about Snow White.
So Forbes has the story.
Yes, Snow White is bombing at the box office. It is one of the lowest rated films on IMDb. And in a crazy turn of events, Rachel Zegler is getting roasted
by the son of the producer of the film because he had to fly to New York City to reprimand her
because she's burning the film to the ground and they need the money. So he wrote this long
response. Someone said your dad flew to NYC to reprimand need the money. So he wrote this long response. Someone
said your dad flew to NYC to reprimand a young actress. Any words on this? Because that's creepy
as hell and uncalled for. People have the right to free speech. No shame on your father. And he
said, you really want to do this? Yeah, my dad, the producer of an enormous piece of Disney IP
with hundreds of millions of dollars on the line, had to leave his family to fly across the country
to reprimand his 20 year old employee for dragging her personal politics into the middle of promoting the movie,
for which he signed a multi-million dollar contract to get paid and do publicity for.
This is called adult responsibility and accountability,
and her actions clearly hurt the film's box office.
Free speech does not mean you're allowed to say whatever you want
in your private employment without repercussions.
Tens of thousands of people worked on that film,
and she hijacked the conversation for her
own immature desires. At the risk
of all the colleagues and crew and blue-collar workers
who depend on that movie to be successful,
narcissism is not something to be coddled
or encouraged.
Well, you hired her, man. Well, your dad hired her.
I agreed. When you look at her tweets,
it's like, was it a secret?
You knew what you were getting. Yep, and they deserve it.
They thought this was popular.
Yeah.
They thought she represented young people and they didn't want to see it.
And they were wrong.
So get woke, go broke.
I hope the $600 million loss was worth it.
There's something about this that I think goes beyond the woke stuff as well.
Because my wife loves Disney films.
Right? In a sort of mythological, romantic way. Because my wife loves Disney films, right?
In a sort of mythological, romantic way.
My wife thinks of Disney films the way I think of the Iliad.
These to her are like character-forming movies because of the value-setting function that they have.
They tell this big mystical fairy tale where there is a perfect world
and a perfect story that always plays to the end.
And I think that there are people who are genuinely emotionally traumatized by what they're doing to these films.
Because I took my son to his boxing lesson the other day, right?
And we ride our bikes down to this boxing lesson.
On the way back, we go past a bus stop.
And in this bus stop is a Snow White advert.
But someone has vandalized it.
But it's literally spray-pandalized it, but he's literally
sprayed, painted onto it, boycott.
And it's like, wow, is that some guy from 4chan who's got, or is, he's not going to
do that.
Like, or is that someone who was like my wife?
Like, you know, like a mother who's really pissed off about Snow White is being perverted
and degraded by Disney as a company.
Like, I don't know.
I don't know who did it, but, like,
it's just in the middle of, like, a town in England.
Like, someone is so pissed off about this.
They went and vandalized the bus.
I've never seen that before.
I didn't boycott Snow White.
I just didn't want to see it.
Yeah, same.
Right, it's just no interest to me at all.
But it doesn't hold a kind of romantic position in my heart.
Whereas for a lot of young women, I think it does.
It also, I mean, these newer remakes of older films,
it doesn't feel like they're after the same kind of value setting.
It really seems virtue signaling and shallow.
It doesn't have the same kind of weight underneath.
Let's take a look at what Snow White was.
You get this Rachel Zegler doing press where she's mocking Snow White, the movie itself, saying a guy basically stalks her and then she marries him. Like, huh? Kind of creepy, right?
She's not she's not trying to find her prince.
She's she's trying to be the leader she knows she can be.
And you guys know the story of Snow White.
Vaguely.
It is the least inspiring hero's story ever told.
It's not a hero's story.
Snow White is a victim the whole time.
Literally, the main character is just the victim of a story of a fumbling, bumbling queen who kills herself.
So the story for Snow White, simply put,
Snow White's parents are dead.
She's a maid.
She's the princess.
The evil queen is like, ha-ha, oh, no, Snow White's coming of age and she's going to be
prettier than me.
I'm going to hire a guy to kill her.
The guy brings her in the woods and says, I can't do it.
Get out of here.
She runs into the woods.
The animals dance and sing.
She finds a dwarf's house, cleans it up, becomes their maid, still a maid.
They all dance and sing.
The queen finds out she didn't die.
So she poisons an apple, sneaks by, tricks her into eating it.
Snow White passes out. Then the queen goes on top of a mountain to try and push a boulder, gets struck by lightning and dies. finds out she didn't die so she poisons an apple sneaks by tricks her into eating it snow white
passes out then the queen goes on top of a mountain to try and push a boulder gets struck
by lightning and dies and then the prince finds snow white kisses her and she wakes up and they're
happily ever after yeah snow white did not save anybody snow white literally did nothing the whole
movie you'd be looking this through the lens of a man exactly but what my point is rachel zegler said no she's the hero of the story she she
unifies the bandits she saves the guy from the dungeon and then calls out the queen and restores
the kingdom that's not what snow white was yeah snow white was just some chick was being chased
around and then passed out and i look you saying that you know no one wants to see a story about
like a guy chasing the girl it's like, no, that's all a female romance.
That's Twilight.
That's Fifty Shades of Grey.
Twilight actually was two guys.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, right.
That's literally Snow White.
It's literally all a female romance.
That's the female hero's story.
Oh, yeah.
What about What's-Her-Face with the long hair?
Oh, that's because the guy goes and he's like,
put on your hair.
I want to come bang you.
That's the woman's story is that the guy pursues her because she's so important.
Yeah.
And Jonathan Paggio had a really good breakdown of what the original story is about with like the older woman seeing a younger beauty.
And at first, because is that the one or is it sleeping beauty that where
she gives her a mirror uh well there's the there's the mirror on the wall that tells the queen that
uh you're good looking but sleeping uh sleep but it's a similar trope no sleeping beauty like she
gets cursed to sleep at at a certain age i'm not but there's a lot of musics
to be honest yeah like all these stories are like the prince comes and kisses her and then she wakes
up right but and that's fine you know that's you know i'm not i'm not heartbroken that they've
perverted it but i can see why a lot of people are but this is the thing right like there's this
meme about the male power fantasy and the meme they use a spider-man he's got the busload of
children and Mary Jane.
He's holding them both, and then Green Goblin is like,
who will it be, Spider-Man, Mary Jane, or suffer the children?
And then he saves them both.
He actually saves everybody, and he's like, no,
and then he defeats the bad guy.
That's the male power fantasy.
You've got a great Green Goblin voice.
Oh, I will.
And then the female power fantasy is that all the guys want you no matter what.
Yeah.
So in Twilight, Bella, doesn't that mean pretty or something?
Beautiful.
It means beautiful in Italian.
It's literally her name.
And there's a vampire.
And he saves her from getting hit by a car.
And he's like, you're just so pretty.
I have to have you.
And then the werewolf is like, no, I have to have her.
Now we fight.
And that's Twilight.
With shirts being taken off.
It speaks to what, you know, women have an inherent value,
and that is the fact that they can make more people,
and men have to go out into the world and do something to prove that they are of value.
And that's every single story, whether it be about women or about men.
The hero's journey is the man's activity women's value in in
society is they're desired by men because they are where they they hold the key to more humans
notice how the the the in the women's story the the the sort of question is is she truly as
intrinsically desirable as she was hoping she would be
and the man proves that she is through the labors that he goes through bro there's a symbiosis in
the stories as well do you actually know what twilight's about like in all of you have you
seen it well i mean i've i've heard about it it's literally that bella has something within her that
all of the vampires want oh yeah and they're like they look at her and they're like, they're like shaking.
Like she just stands there and she's like, they want her.
Yeah.
So that's the combination.
That's how male and female stories interact, as you were saying.
I got to read the super chat in this segment because it's a fair point.
Shaker Silver says you're undervaluing Snow White's heroism.
The hunter spared her from seeing her kindness and helping animals.
She tames the unruly dwarves who take on the evil queen it's a tale of heroic femininity yeah yeah actually yeah she cleans their house and gets these these scummy dwarves in order
and gets their life together you know but that's fact but that's the the woman's role traditionally
in society isn't it's to order the domestic sphere yeah and so so men will sit around in piles of their men are barbarians yeah men are literally barbarians i was
when i was a single man i was a total you know you know you were we all were right so so it's
actually pretty funny because um we were i was i was hanging out with uh my wife where i think i
can't remember what she's watching probably married to strangers women love that show you know that
one like love at first sight 90 day fiance whatever
it's like women just love yeah and and we were talking about something and uh i can't remember
what happened in the news and then i made a comment like well you know that's why they you
know women are crazy that's what they say and then she was like men are crazy and then i laughed i
was like oh yeah and then i looked out the window and mike was skating special mike one of our
writers and i was like yeah you're right actually guys are nuts like the guys here are jumping off buildings and and
like mike smacked himself in the face and had to get stitches and i'm like that's actually true men
and women are both crazy for different reasons my wife's favorite hobby is finding me just a video
of a guy doing something retarded it's like you's like some guy's jumping off a roof into a
swimming pool or something. And it's like, why do men do this?
I'm like, it's hard
to explain.
There is a reason, though.
It's kind of badass.
It's the search for glory, right? That's actually what it is.
It's glorious, right? If you pull it off,
then you're incredible. And if you don't,
you've broken something, and it's going to really hurt.
You could say the same thing. Men don't ever take pictures like this yeah you know yeah well
there's a video i saw of a guy uh doing parkour and he he's on a building probably 15 feet tall
this is nuts he jumps a 30 foot gap and there's a an i-beam and he kicks it and then backflips
lands on the ground in front of like 30 other guys who all start screaming and cheering.
And then in the video, he's like, I pulled it off the world record
for whatever this move is called.
And then the next clip is him showing his broken ankle.
He was like, this was the result.
It's purple and swollen.
And I was thinking about it because as skateboarders,
you land the trick, you ride away uninjured.
Maybe the board breaks, you ride away, you're fine.
But for a lot of these guys that are jumping off buildings
doing parkour, they land it
but literally break their ankles and get
injured in the process. There was one the other day
where some British parkour guy
was climbing a bridge in Spain
and he's like 150 feet up, just falls
off and that's him dead. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it's just like, okay, well.
Guys are nuts. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Was it Danny Way jumped the Great Wall of China on a skateboard,
sprained his ankles, went back and did it again because it was so awesome?
Yeah, well, also Danny Way is the dude who at the X Games went on the Mega Ramp,
which is a 70-foot gap going 50 miles an hour,
a 20-foot tall vert wall launching him 28 feet on top.
So he's 50 feet in the air.
He comes down and his ankles hit the top of the ramp and he front flips, slams on the
ground, gets carted out injured, broken.
I think he broke his foot, goes back up, does it again and successfully lands.
Yeah, that was Jake Brown at the X Games.
But yeah, he pretty much fell off of a building.
You're thinking of Danny Way?
Danny Way clipped his ankles on the edge of the quarter pipe and front flipped.
Okay, do you remember the one where Jake Brown slammed a flat?
Jake Brown launched off the wall, ejected off it, fell 48 feet,
lacerated his liver and busted his stuff.
He didn't come back, though.
No, but he still walked off.
He walked off.
It's like they're not skateboarders.
These guys are stuntmen.
The dudes that are doing that type of stuff, that's ungodly.
The Danny Way one was when he was coming back
down off a 540, and his
ankles hit. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He goes forward.
Jesus. He flips over
and everyone's like, I think that might have been the same time
as Jake Brown. It might have been the same event.
He flips over and slams and
slides down, gets up,
goes back up, does it again.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, everyone's like, and apparently he said, like, yeah, my foot was broken,
but I had to do it.
There's something cool about it, man.
It's just badass.
I've interviewed Danny Way and Paul Cech, who's his trainer,
after they had to rehabilitate him.
And you could just sense he was just like, yeah, my body will get better,
but, you know, I'll get back to it.
There's something just different in the wiring.
Well, you have to be, dude.
You have to be a little crazy.
I would imagine.
I think I have the video.
Oh, yeah, dude.
Oh, yeah, dude.
Let's play it.
Let's play it.
What do we got here?
We got a backflip.
Backflip.
Rocketeer, he's got itip. Goes for a 540.
He hit his ankles on the coping and front flipped to the ground.
Dude.
Yo, he gets back up and he goes and does it again.
Here's another angle of it.
So, you know, when I was talking to my wife and we were like, you know, women are crazy, she was like, guys are crazy.
I thought for a second and like Mike just went to the hospital for bashing his face.
I'm like, yeah, she's right.
Have you heard of the theory?
Kurt Doolittle talks about this where there's the masculine neurology and the feminine neurology that evolved over time and
he even says that the left comes from the feminine neurology the right comes from the masculine
but the masculine neurology it's it's positive forces being able to protect its negative forces
violence the feminine neurology its positive force is nurturing its negative uh force is coercion
because like for the feminine it's typically smaller um that's how it has to
kind of do what it does so back to the snow white thing that is pretty interesting that you know
from that lens what she has to do to kind of like arrive at that that kind of ending of the film
it kind of follows that train of the feminine neurology i mean i think that's an accurate
description either way right because that's very clearly what we're that train of the feminine neurology. I mean, I think that's an accurate description either way, right?
Because that's very clearly what we're watching, you know, the feminine left
There's the devouring mother who wants to consume all of our societies and make sure that no one has any freedom of their own
And the problem is that this is why I was criticizing the Trump administration
They're being a bit too much of the aggressive man
Whereas what they need to be is the father right?
They need to take on the responsible role of the father not posting memes shitting on the
so puns shitting on the left yes no no but that no no you're right yeah punning the left right
that's funny in the left but like you know posting memes is too adolescent you know what i mean
they need to they need to be the respectable father there was a response that said why is
some gen why is a zoomer running the white house account yeah that was one of the what I mean? They need to be the respectable father. There was a response that said, why is a Zoomer running the White House account?
Yeah.
That was one of the responses.
I mean, that's a great question.
Hilarious.
You know, they should have genuine, like, you could put the fear of the father into the left, and that would essentially make them back down.
But at the same time, make them feel like the right person is in charge.
Because by winding them up, what you're signaling to them is, no, it's just your brother is in charge, right?
And he's going to needle you now and make your life a living hell.
And that's not responsible, right?
And that's not the end of the story.
That's the problem.
That doesn't put a cap on the end of it.
It's not a foot forward towards harmony or cohesion.
Exactly.
Yeah, I feel you.
Well, the adults were supposed to be back in
charge when biden got elected and boy were they not no yeah they were asleep yeah and and and
worse but that's one of the reasons that trump won the resounding victory right everyone actually
wanted to put the adults back in charge so i i'd like to see them pivot more to a more sort of
mature perspective at this point you know trump has uh to a great degree he's not the same man
he was in 2016 i know uh that was a big issue and i i said that all the time back then because i was
still supporting the democratic party up to 2020 uh one of the stories i like to tell was that when
i went to uh glenn beck studio my uber driver on the way there uh we were talking he's like where
are you going you know he's like i'm going to do this thing with you know glenn beck and he's like
oh cool cool he's like he's like yeah i'm kind of know he's like i'm going to do this thing with you know glenn beck and he's like oh cool cool he's like he's like yeah i'm kind of
independent he's like i i i like trump but man i wish you would shut up and he was like he was
like a latino guy and i was like i started laughing i was like yup but he but he toned it down and so
in uh after 2020 uh or mid 2020 i was in favor of the democrats they booted tulsi and and bernie and yang and i
was like this party sucks so i'm going for trump because i there's nothing they're offering biden
and uh after after this you know trump went through some heavy stuff he came back a bit
calmer yeah more he he still goes after them he still insults him but he's a bit more serious
about it but the the problem isn't trump himself right the problem is the people around trump who i again i all like um they
they're just flush with the victory and you know they're feeling their oats and it's like okay
that's great but you need to rein yourselves in you know you need to show that kind of backbone
to restrain your own excitement on the win you know yeah because you've won everything you know there's nothing you need to prove now well at least you know to the enemy
what you need to prove now is that you're worthy of this and are you worthy and at the moment
it's kind of a bit up in the air right because i mean like saying oh we're going to take over
canada we we hate the europeans and stuff like that it's like yeah that's funny but also it's not responsible it's
it's it's broey isn't it it's too bro very it's very young man and not enough dad exactly and
it's it's really pissing them off and it's freaking them out and it's it's not reassuring
everyone that the adults are actually back in charge but we want canada i don't know why you do. It's just going to be another blue state.
Why would you want Canada?
Greenland's a great place.
Well, I didn't say we'd give them political representation.
Oh, okay.
Well, that's a different story.
That's a different story.
Dude, I've been saying I never got more death threats than when I jokingly said we will take Canada.
It was nuts.
Allison was like, what did you do?
Because we're getting slammed by death threats
security companies getting concerned and i was like i don't know what are they saying they're
like they're mad that you want canada and i was like oh yeah i said i'm not happy about this i
said we were going to destroy their economy so that we can annex them and then take away their
political representation was it canadians getting mad yes no doubt canadians were sending death
threats wow yeah and that's you they're usually very polite unbecoming of them very much very Was it Canadians getting mad? Yes, no doubt. Canadians were sending death threats. Wow. Yeah.
And they're usually very polite.
Unbecoming of them.
Very much, very much.
This is the point though, isn't it, right?
It's freaking them out to the extent where Canadians are sending death threats.
Do you think any of it, and this is a genuine question,
do you think any of it is using those kinds of tactics to call attention to certain arrangements between us and
other countries I don't doubt that that's part of Trump's strategy but it's
not the only way of achieving that right right it's not the only way you can get
people to focus on no and every time you make a decision you you're weighing up
costs and benefits right and yeah the benefit is that Trump gets this to be
the issue that they are laser focused on.
Because the great thing about Trump is he's kind of unpredictable, right?
You know, you didn't know what he was going to do tomorrow.
Is Trump going to send troops across Canadian border?
I mean, it's a non-zero chance, right?
That's the thing.
And you don't know.
So it focuses their minds, but it also starts to make them think, right, okay, we need contingency plans, right?
We need to seriously think about breaking away from the U.S. orbit of influence.
Maybe we need to reconsider NATO.
Maybe we need to reconsider the entire post-World War II settlement.
And there are a lot of people who are actually in favor of that.
I think we should invade the U.K.
Couldn't get any worse.
We'll bring freedom and democracy and we'll be welcomed as liberators.
Yeah, well, that's worked every other time, hasn't it?
I don't know. It didn't work in Iraq work in a while this time this is the one time you're gonna liberate canada
next and no it's just that you know when i when i look at the uk i i am sad you know the thing is i
am too but like the the the point being like there's there are other ways of approaching
these problems that trump could have used that would have not not kicked off the storm
because I mean one thing that Trump I don't think he appreciates is he's making it very difficult
to be right wing outside of America right so look at Canada at the moment the Liberal Party is
storming ahead oh yeah under a globalist who's running the Bank of England for a while right
everything bad about Canada is because of the Liberal Party because of Tr Trudeau, right? Everything that's shit in Canada,
they've done, and yet they're
the ones who are more than 50% in the polls at the moment.
And the Conservative has got to
come out and be like, I hate Donald Trump,
I'm going to fight Donald Trump. It's like, A, no one really
believes that. B, why the hell do you have to say
that? That should be your closest ally.
Trump should be bigging you up and giving you
all the opportunity you need to get
behind in the polls. That is a good point.
And it's the same in Europe.
It's the same in England.
The prediction markets have Polly have dropping.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
And if Trump was a bit more, I guess, if he had a wider view of things, then understanding why it's important to get canada into the fold
see trump aligned trump could have approached it saying look i'm not going to work with trudeau
not i'm not going to work with canada i'm not going to work with trudeau trudeau has ruined
canada look what he's done to you but that pierre guy we're going to give him favorable trade deals
we're going to make sure the fentanyl trade or whatever it is yeah you know i love canada i love pierre polivere you know things are going to be great and he would have given him a
boost in the polls same with you know all of the right wingers in europe same with nigel farage
even though he's been a traumatic failure at the moment uh that's a bummer isn't it yeah it's
terrible it's really really disappointing i don't know actually yeah but the point is trump is
actually making it difficult for right wingers everywhere else because he's giving the liberals a really strong hand to be a moderate guy for what Canada represents, a very liberal country. So he's not going to align with Trump. Instead, Trump basically declares I don't want to say war because it's because in the sense of international things, we are actually getting dangerous close to foreign wars. spat with Canada for a variety of reasons, putting the conservatives in a weakened position
where they can't agree with him on the ideals that are correct because it puts them in alignment
with Trump.
Yeah.
And Trump's a bad guy to Canada now.
And also what he's done is he's handed the sort of nationalistic perspective to the liberals.
If you notice their rhetoric, it's it's hardcore Canadian nationalism in a way that
Polyev wouldn't have been able to do in the absence of
trump not saying anything right he would have come out as a radical right winger and they would be
like oh no god you're crazy could be accelerationism maybe but like i don't think it's planned you know
i think this is all kind of spontaneous and so now the liberals have got the hard right position
in canada so he's got no room to maneuver at all it It's like, damn, man, this was not wise. He doesn't seem like the guy who cares about what Canada's doing.
Well, sure, but that's not helpful for the Canadian people.
There are mass layoffs now in their steel and aluminum industries.
No doubt, but that's not going to improve relations between America and Canada.
Moreover, if the idea is to destroy the concept of an international alliance of right-wingers trump's going about it right
because trump is just going to make it not possible to be right wing in other countries i
i don't think trump cares that's great but that that you know that's going to be bad when the
entire world is left wing and it's just america they'll work against you yeah and this is what
i mean about declining political capital when i said. So you consider yourself an anti-Trump liberal?
No, I'm kidding.
But the point being, Trump is not solidifying his own victory, right?
Trump will be a blip in the historical record, rather than setting the new paradigm that the entire Western world revolves around.
And this is a wasted opportunity
is what i'm saying and you're having any meetings while you're here no but i mean if trump wants to
give me a call i could make some time i think you should talk to a lot of the people in his orbit if
you if you were able to i mean i'd be more than happy to hopefully i i think you know how they
might see a lot of clips like this because i do think you're making a lot of really important
points yep and then i just want to be clear as well i say this is a die-hard trump partisan right yeah i mean you know like one of my favorite things going through
2016 to 2020 is watching you desperately trying to resist becoming it was so great yeah but to
be fair we had tulsi gabbard i know i know and it was it was it was just the left i could see them
making it impossible not to love trump well well so there were a few things one trump was a lot worse culturally back then sure he mocked a journalist who got attacked and he
laughed about it we also had tulsi gabbard who i don't agree with at the time she shifted a lot
of positions but my view was largely we can't allow the psychopaths to take over a major political party in this country and turn it into whatever that is.
We need people of principle to push out the neolibs and the far left crackpots.
The crackpots won.
Yeah.
And then, you know, when it came to 2020, Trump put out his second term policy plan.
And I said, I'm for most of these things.
Great.
I have to support it, especially i know biden is bad but
also there was a cultural element as well where like you know you're a man of the left i used to
be a man of that you know it was one of those things just like trump represents non-leftism
you know he represents a paradigmatic shift away from what they were trying to achieve and so
if you were on the left you couldn't ever have sympathy for trump but trump was charming funny and you didn't know what he was gonna do next and the left was evil and wrong about everything and
trump became increasingly more correct about everything but i think that's where i've always
been i grew up in a family where i had a conservative parent a liberal parent i was
constantly in the position of stop making me defend trump yeah because you're lying about him
i know and so i'm making all these videos where i'm like trump didn't do that i know like we we can say i watched all of
your videos of course and i was like come on but it wasn't an issue of like i must be the left it
was my views are center center left on a lot of issues in the libertarian sphere aligning with
trump isn't the future that i'm
hoping for in this country they're lying about them every day they're not giving us a proper
alternative they're giving us no choice and then they went so insane i was like trump please help
us yeah we have no choice i mean 2020 when trump gets first elected it's it's fascinating how the
gamer gate stuff evolves from this this ideology spreading through
universities through media through social media but at the highest levels of institutions wasn't
yet there then midway through trump's administration it's now appearing in all these places
by the end of trump's administration it's everywhere and then it's like okay we cannot
let this keep going i agree well. Well, we got him back.
I do think we're winning.
Oh, yeah.
Like, on the technical stuff, Trump is doing a superb job, right?
Like, on all of the actual decisions that he personally is making, and most of his team are making, he's doing a spectacular job.
It's just there is a means of communication that the Europeans and the Canadian types, they don't get it, right?
And he could just communicate in a different way that would, even if they're not persuaded,
it would kind of put them on the back foot once again.
So they wouldn't be able to just sit there and whine about it.
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I did, yeah.
It popped up everywhere.
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Xbox Lad says, hey, guys, check out the U.S. debt clock and look at tax income.
Why?
What's going on?
U.S. debt clock dot org.
Is that what it is?
Yeah.
And where's tax income?
Tax income.
I don't know where that is.
Tax.
There's too many.
Yeah, I know. There's too many. Yeah, I know.
There's too many.
Okay.
Total federal, total debt.
I don't know.
Savings per taxpayer is up to $2,000, though.
That's not bad.
The doge clock.
It's all right.
I don't know where tax income is, though.
Is that revenue per citizen?
Total local revenues.
No, no.
The green one a bit up at the top.
Is that it?
Federal tax revenue.
Is that what they mean by tax income?
I think so.
Is it going up?
Is it $5 trillion, sorry?
Yeah, $5 trillion?
Yeah.
Yeah, well, our debt is still going up a lot.
It is slowing down, which is pretty cool.
Significantly, actually.
Little John says, God, I hope Ian isn't here.
Hopefully his home-putting graphene... Oh, I hope Ian isn't here. Hopefully his home pudding graphene.
Oh, I can't read that.
I can't read that.
Everyone else here read it.
All right.
Some randomness says, my tire went flat.
Then the air pump was out of order.
Then the tire ripped open, and I locked my keys and phone inside the car.
All on my birthday.
I'm using all my karma points to demand sargon stop dissing mexican food you know you don't like it i i i i i'm really sorry that you've done all these things to yourself uh but mexican food still
fucking sucks man what what do you mean i'm not even gonna explain myself no no hold on i i think you're
talking about tex-mex uh i don't know what that is exactly you see i've proved it he's wrong
just food food that mexicans make so i went to brazil and i said i want real brazilian food
and the guy said okay i'll get you real brazilian food and you know it was farofa it was steak ah
it's steak i think like in rice i want to cage you i i went well for sure like that's delicious know what it was? Farofa. It was steak. Ah. It was steak. I think, like, and rice.
I went, well, for sure.
Like, that's delicious. Yeah. But he was like,
he's like, hey, look, man, like, everybody just eats
chicken and steak. That's normal. I went to Thailand.
I said, I want real Thai food. And my friend was like,
you want real Thai food? I was like, real Thai food. Okay, guess what it was?
Chicken and rice. Yeah.
I went to a Thai restaurant in San Francisco.
It was a real Thai restaurant.
You know, I was like, okay, I couldn't read anything on the board.
I didn't know what it was.
So I was like, choose this thing.
They give me this weird bowl.
It's full of liquid, but there's full of stuff in the liquid.
But at no point...
No, no, no, it wasn't.
It was kind of like a stew, I guess.
But I couldn't identify any of the components of it.
It was like large, weird, lumpy things.
It looked like an alien dish.
And I was just like, right, I'm not eating this.
So of course... Listen, I've seen the way you make your steaks you're in no position
no position of course there's like specialty dishes but typically what people think is a
like regional dish or like national dish is an american-made abomination
so when you go to mexico they're going to give you thin strips of steak with rice.
Okay.
It's delicious.
That's fine.
But lightly salted, maybe.
Everything I've seen that people will be like, that's Mexican.
I'm like, no.
That's actually Tex-Mex.
This is the thing.
And people in the United States think they're getting Mexican food, burritos and tacos.
They do have tacos in Mexico.
But the way we eat in Mexico, it's actually Tex-Mex.
You go to a real Mexican restaurant and they're going to give you, it's going to be steak.
It's going to be carne asada.
It's going to be pollo asada, things like that.
So Taco Bell's lying to us.
Oh, bro.
They tried opening Taco Bell in Mexico, and they marketed it as American food.
Because they were like, what is it?
Taco Bell's terrible as well.
I don't know.
Ouch.
Ouch.
Easy.
Easy.
It's a bowl of rice with some beans.
It's like, jeez. Bro, have you not had a cheesy gordita crunch with a Doritos Locos taco?
Now I want to go to Taco Bell on the way home.
The Doritos Locos taco.
We have Taco Bell over in the UK.
You like Doritos?
No.
Okay, well, it's a giant Dorito, nacho cheese, with beef, lettuce, cheese.
Then they take a pita, they put cheese, and then they put some ranch on it,
and that is...
American food, yeah.
Absolutely.
I don't eat it all the time, but when I do...
And then more cheese.
If cheese is three ingredients in it...
The funny thing about...
Everybody knows this about Taco Bell
is that it's like five ingredients
prepared 50 different ways
with different names for the exact same things.
It's awesome.
But it's delicious. I wouldn't trade it.
I mean, what are you eating? Blood pudding?
Come on. Huh?
I like blood pudding. It's good. I was going to say, only as part of
a fried breakfast.
I love English breakfast. It's the best.
I know. Tomato beans, mushrooms.
What else you got? Eggs? Eggs.
Sausage, bacon.
Just anything else, really. But like, they're bangers, not just sausages, right? Yeah. What else you got? Eggs? Eggs, sausage, bacon, just anything else really.
But they're bangers, not just sausages, right? Yeah.
There's bread in them.
Oh, well, I mean, it depends.
If you want a high-quality one, you get Cumberland sausage or something.
So it's proper meat with chives or something.
They give you fresh tomato slices?
Yeah.
It is good.
American breakfast, waffles and syrup yes have you ever
have you ever looked at the the uh amount of sugar in maple syrup it's crazy it's just sugar it's
sugar sugar yeah it is yeah i looked at it and i was like well i can't eat that this is your
breakfast 50 50 carbs in uh a couple tablespoons yeah so people like when they pour all over i'm
like bro that's like a hundred carbs there of pure sugar on your sugar loaf.
Tim's trying to sound virtuous, but look at all the Pop-Tarts when you walk out.
It's just boxes and boxes.
Hey, hey, it doesn't have maple syrup on it.
The other day, he's like, hey, man, try this, what was it, a cookies and cream Pop-Tart.
I was like, oh, shit.
I haven't had a Pop-Tart since I was 13.
No, no, no, no, no.
He's lying.
Yeah, yeah.
It was a cookies and cream Pop-Tart with ice cream between the two Pop-Tarts.
That was great, too.
He was actually downplaying it.
Yeah, we actually had everybody make Pop-Tart ice cream sandwiches.
But that's always allowed.
I just don't do it all the time.
You know what I mean?
It's fine.
McDonald's I won't eat, though.
What have we here?
No, McDonald's I won't go near. Everybody loves McDonald's here? No, McDonald's I won't go near.
Everybody loves McDonald's fries, but not me.
I ain't touching it.
The fries are the problem with McDonald's, if you think about it.
It's a burger that's been fried on a grill.
And seed oils, nonetheless.
Well, I heard they're going to bring back tallow.
They might bring back tallow.
Yeah, I know.
RFK, what are you doing?
Waiting.
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like a boonies bounties thing.
And you get to submit your best trick of that month. And then yeah, you win 200 bucks, get
all the discord members vote on it. So if you aren't in there, that's a way to get your votes
in and get to be a boss. We want to do something like that with the Timcast discord, where we'll
give a $10,000 grant to someone for a cultural endeavor. We are still in legal limbo because
10 grand is a lot of money. Our lawyers are like, a very hot like it's it's expensive sweepstakes we got to go over the
laws for the boonies bounties it's similar it's a sweet it's a contest but it's so much simpler
to give someone 200 with a do a skate trick and then we and then we judge who wins but the discord
for the boonies are the judges we have no say in in it. So the community decides who actually gets to win.
Oh, that's great.
And then people go on Instagram, or I guess anywhere, right?
Or is it Instagram?
Yeah, it's mainly Instagram, and then we just, like Tim said,
just give it over to the Discord members, and it's kind of crazy
because sometimes we'll think, like, well, we thought this guy should have won,
but then it's up to the members, so that's the benefit of being a Discord member.
Yeah, we want to decentralize this stuff, but also we want to boost skateboard to boost skateboarding we love it yeah all right let's grab some more oh this is a good
one steven richmond says can i get a shout out to my wife amanda 15 years today and she still puts
up with me hoping for 15 more congratulations sir that's incredible i told uh i was talking to
allison we were watching um something on the news about a divorce.
And then we started talking about marriage and I started complaining about Reagan and no-fault divorce.
And then I was like, I will never get a divorce.
I do not believe in divorce.
I will never initiate divorce.
Nothing could ever happen.
Literally nothing.
There's like very rare circumstances based on legal precedent and like what society would do.
But never going to happen.
And then I pounded the table and yelled death before dishonor i mean thrilled oh she absolutely was like well i'm glad you think that and i was like marriage is i've been saying this for a while but i believe it should be
absolutely i uh i think a large component of the culture war is those who serve God and those who want to be God.
And my explanation was my oath in marriage is not just for you.
It's not just for me.
It's not just between us.
It is to God.
That's what an oath is.
Exactly.
And I reject those who would break their oaths. And that's why Hachiko the dog is one of the most honorable symbols of loyalty.
And you're familiar, right? No. The dog who waited for 10 years for his owner who died. Hachiko the dog is one of the most honorable symbols of loyalty and
you're familiar right? The dog who waited for
10 years for his owner who died
in Japan
he didn't know that his owner had died
and he would come to the train station every day
at 5 to wait for him
for 10 years he stayed there, they kept trying to remove him, he would run back
so in Japan they built a statue
in his honor
and then he has a holiday for a loyalty day
that that's what i'm talking about that's honor now if only he knew i'd have no problem with him
moving on and being sad but so long as he didn't and there's so many other stories about dogs that
refuse to abandon that's that's tremendous yeah that's another reason why i really despise
law enforcement that violate their oaths, and they know they do.
They are oath breakers, and I think they're – you know what?
The lowest circle of hell is for betrayers and the disloyal.
I think it's always been that way as well.
I mean, do you know the word warlock is used as like an evil villain, right?
It means oath breaker.
Wow, really?
Yeah, literally it means oath breaker.
Wow.
So, you know, this gets embedded in the culture from history,
whether you realize it or not.
Breaking an oath is just the worst thing you can do because someone else was relying on you.
Back to that spiritual degradation that like, you know,
oh, this don't seem to matter as much to people these days.
It feels just like a minor contractual engagement
rather than, you know like
i'm married and we have our spats and we have our things but to me those are the moments where you
really realize okay this is how i should be communicating instead you start to learn more by
sticking to the oath rather than breaking the oath because that would just feel easier in the moment
it's it's really hard to believe that people take oaths seriously these days anyway.
I mean, like, they sound archaic, right?
But all of society used to be built on oaths.
Yep.
Everything, you know, it was your oath to your friends, your family, your wife,
your lord, your king, your god.
You know, like, the whole thing was predicated on oaths.
This is why I was really disappointed to learn about the corruption
at the highest levels of the Klingon Empire.
Oh, yeah, me too.
Because they're supposed to be an honor- society. And, uh, I'm,
I'm half kidding by the way, but, but, uh, Carl, you're familiar with the Kittimer accords, right?
Oh, you need some Trekkies in here. I've watched enough Star Trek to be familiar with. I'm going
to tell everyone the story because the writing is just so tremendous. And this is what the boomers
gave to us at the end of the eighties. Okay. And this is what we are losing today culturally. So by all means, mock Star Trek. But let me tell you this.
Star Trek, the original series was a bit campy. It was very silly. The bad guys were the Klingons.
When they relaunched the next generation, some 20 years after the first series ended,
they wanted to show that the story had progressed. So in the introductory episode, the pilot,
they have a Klingon on the bridge of the new enterprise, which is shocking.
I mean, they were enemies.
The story they wrote was that the Klingons were an honor-based society and the Federation was largely dishonorable.
They didn't like them.
The Romulans, which are supposed to be a civilization of people driven by passion and impulse, attacked a Klingon civilian colony,
largely women and children. When a distress signal was sent out, the Enterprise intercepted,
picked up the distress signal and rushed as fast as they could to the colony and encountering an
overwhelming force in the Romulans they could not defeat, but engaged in battle anyway to try and
save as many people as possible, even though they were enemies of the Klingons. The Klingon
Empire saw that as an act of honor and sacrifice. The Romulans destroyed the Enterprise, killing all
the Federation personnel, but they died trying to save their enemy because it was the right thing to
do. The Klingons then opened up communications and sought an alliance with the Federation because
they found the Federation to be honorable. What an amazing writing. And I grew up as a little kid and
the boomers gave that to me. And I was like, man, I love these stories. To be honorable.
To be the man who knows you're going to run into a burning building. There's a pizza delivery guy,
I think it was, ran into a burning building to save a couple kids and he got burns all over his
arms, but he saved those kids' lives. And you know what's really sad? Those kids are going to grow
up, they're going to be 20 years old, and they're not going to think about them maybe once in a while maybe once in a while
but on a day-to-day it's not going to come up but that guy's going to live with those scars for the
rest of his life and that's what it means to be a man but the the the thing is the this is why we
need to have a much more um conscious view of mythology right because like that that's set now
forever right that's you know gladiator what we do in life echoes in eternity that that's set now forever. Right. That's, you know, gladiator, what we do in Life Echoes in Eternity.
That's generally the principle of mythology. Right. That that now has like that story can be told over and over and over.
And now however many hundreds of thousands of people watch this, they're going to go, oh, who the hell's that guy?
And so the story, it's set forever now. So his heroic sacrifice wasn't in vain.
You know, that's what that's what heroism mythology is for.
And I will stress too, I care not for badges.
When I see these people in the White House with all of these things on their chest,
no, the badge to me is the veteran who is scarred, maimed, injured, or paralyzed.
That is the true mark of a hero and sacrifice and honor.
That I get to walk around.
I'm a 40-year-old guy skateboarding in my own little,
why? Because there are people who are willing to die to save my life, and I don't have to do that.
I owe them everything. That's another reason why I want our leadership to be veterans. It's why I
was a fan of Tulsi Gabbard. It's why I'm a fan of J.D. Vance. I really, really think that our
president, vice president at the highest level, they should have served.
Donald Trump, he's much better than what else we got.
And he's not bad. He's a good guy.
But I like J.D. Vance.
I get the feeling that Trump was a necessary corrective to the corruption in the system, right?
Agreed.
It's very difficult to get a prim, honorable man to do what was necessary to be done.
And Trump, I mean, I'm not saying he's dishonorable or anything, but he's not prim and noble in that way.
He's a brawler.
He's a street fighter politically.
He's a New York businessman.
He knows all the dirty games. And he's like, no, you know, fucking Lionhead or fucking all of these.
Yeah, little Marco, all of these names.
He's like, like no i'm going
to bully you all out of the way because i know what needs to be done to save this and look you
know let's turn up pretty well let's grab a couple more here chubby chubby wubby says tim snow white
has a lower rating than the human centipede 2 underrated film by the way guys forgotten classic
that's what they all say never mind the first not even just the first one can't
wait till i can show that to my kids mr spencer says hey carl happy to see you outside of the
tax prison you had a chat about response uh you had a chat about responsibility to civilization
that rears you with destiny many moons ago it inspired me i have two kids now both under two and copy of islander three
well congratulations on your getting your copy of islander three uh well done about the kids too
uh so for anyone who was wondering islander is a philosophy magazine a sort of traditionalist
philosophy magazine that we produce and we we did the first one and we didn't because we were so
okay we want to make a really really beautiful thing that has deep philosophical essays in it and you know poetry and all these other things and we
didn't didn't know if there's gonna be a market for it so we like okay we'll give it again the
first one sold like six and a half thousand copies oh that's not bad so we thought we'll do it again
do another one the second one sold like seven and a half thousand okay great and so we printed
ten thousand of this last one and we sold out within like three or four weeks
and so uh they're all gone now and it's like wow okay people are really enjoying this yeah so the
last thing i'll say before we go to the uncensored show is uh with all due respect to machete ray
because i think he's cool dude he's a good dude he made a sweater where it says freedom over
everything it's freedom line everything and i was thinking about that because he gave me the sweater
and actually have it i have it uh hung up and so I was walking past it one day and I stopped and I thought,
nah, duty over everything. We have a responsibility to each other and to the world and to God and to
life and to everything. And freedom over everything leads to degeneracy and moral decay.
Yeah. So my friends smash that like button, share the show with everyone. You know,
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Maybe it's not the discord. Maybe it's somewhere where you meet with people and you say,
I thought of this thing. You give that one sentence and light bulbs start lighting up over people's heads and
then who knows maybe in a year donald trump's at a rally saying exactly what your idea was because
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