Timcast IRL - Helicopter CRASHES In NYC, Liberals Are BLAMING Trump For Tragic Accident w/ Danny Polishchuk

Episode Date: April 11, 2025

Tim, Phil, & Ian are joined by Danny Polishchuk to discuss a tourist helicopter crashing in NYC, the corporate press lying about the SAVE Act, SCOTUS ruling that the Trump administration must return a man that was deported to El Salvador, and reports claiming iPhones could triple in price due to Trump's tariffs. Hosts: Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) Ian @IanCrossland (everywhere) Serge @SergeDotCom (everywhere) Guest: Danny Polishchuk @DannyJokes (X) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A A tragic accident in New York City. A helicopter has crashed into the Hudson. Six people have lost their lives. It was a tourism flight. And so it's particularly sad. We've also got another story of a minor collision at Reagan Airport. But of course, people are quite worried about the consistency of these accidents, though I do think the minor collisions at the airport probably wouldn't make the news if it weren't

for, you know, the other aviation accident news that's been in the press. Now, how do you think prominent liberals are reacting to the news that a helicopter crashed and it was a terrifying tragedy? They're blaming Trump. They're blaming Trump and the transportation secretary, and it's entirely predictable. So we're going to talk about that, of course. We've also got a bunch of other news. The GOP has passed the SAVE Act requiring proof of citizenship to vote, which is massive. Doge has uncovered babies getting unemployment insurance.

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smells like you are it's made of clothes can you tell no i'm sorry you know what it's a parasite cleanse i think they might be in the intestines that's that's great uh cloves black walnut hall wormwood leaves and stem milk thistle. How are you feeling? Like I had a little bit of coffee, but without the body buzz. Like the mental clarity from the coffee without the body buzz. It's dosing hard, and I feel loose and weak. It's crazy, dude.

But you put in the work now, you reap the rewards later. So get to it. Get your gut healthy. Get your arms. Get your physiology in good health. Because we need clear minds for what's coming. What is coming? A lot of change really fast. A lot of artificial intelligence, obfuscation, making people think.

I mean, that AI video of you guys is crazy. Yeah, there's a third one just came out today. Oh, really? Incredibly well done. We'll play that on the uncensored portion of the show. Excellent. So sharper minds, sharper minds, healthy bodies. Hello, everybody. My name is Phil Labonte. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains. I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary let's go here's the story

this is a tragic story we got this from the post-millennial six dead after helicopter crashes in the hudson river near manhattan due to a helicopter crash in the hudson river the vicinity of the west side highway and spring street expect emergency vehicles and traffic delays in the surrounding area so So there is video. Two adults and five children were aboard the helicopter. That's very sad. That crashed into the Hudson in New York. And that's what this is.

They believe that all people are dead. So it looks like six, I believe six are dead, but there are seven there, which is horrifying. Donald Trump has issued a statement saying terrible helicopter crash in the Hudson River. Looks like six people, the pilot, two adults and three children are no longer with us. The footage of the accident is horrendous. God bless the families and friends of the victims. Secretary of Transportation Sean Duffy and his talented staff are on it. Announcements as to exactly what took place and how will be made shortly.

So there are some images that have come out. You can see here this is the principal. I don't know what you'd call that portion of the helicopter, the main body of the helicopter. Yeah, the rotor came clean off, too. The tail's gone. The thing just disintegrated in midair because after it crashed, you see the rotor just kind of floating down. Man, you were on your way here when the news broke, though. I was on my way here, yeah, from New York.

I was not involved. It was interesting you said before the show that there's a lot of helicopter tourism, or is it not just tourism? Yeah, it's a big thing in Manhattan for tourists where basically there's all these helicopter companies where you go up in the helicopter and they just kind of fly you around Manhattan. You get this bird's eye view of the city. But then there's also these helicopter transportation. Sometimes you can take a helicopter in crazy traffic to jfk airport and it's cheaper i think it's called blade and it like it might be like the same price as an uber really yeah or like maybe like a little more but

like people you know you know if you're like some hedge fund guy and you work in greenwich connecticut you're like yeah i could drive an hour and a half or i can just drop a g and take the helicopter yeah i mean if if if you were like, did you? But I thought you said that it was like the same price as like an Uber. Well, to go to the airport. It's like sometimes. It's like a couple hundred bucks. Yeah.

It's like, yeah, sometimes like. That's totally worth it. If it's like 300 bucks and you're just like, oh, man, I can go ahead and send traffic and deal with all the stuff. Yeah. It's on the east side, like 34th Street area. Essentially, they have like a little pad. I do think however, most people would just spend the $ with all the stuff. Yeah, it's on the east side, like 34th Street area, essentially. They have a little pad. I do think however, most people would just spend the $5 for the train.

Yes. Although, you know what? Oddly, in New York City, the airports are pretty inaccessible by train. It's not just like a train straight there. You can take a train, like a bus. Yeah, but you can get a train at JFK, can't you? I don't think there's a direct one. It's like there's a train near JFK, and then there's a bus.

Oh, you're right. You're right. Yep. If you get close to JFK, then you get a bus. It gets you close. Anyone see the news thing today where there was a man arrested for having sex with a corpse on the subway? Oh, I saw that. In New York?

That's a good reason to not take the train. And you can afford the $200 Uber. I mean, I take the train almost every day. I i've yet to see i've seen a lot of stuff no sex i haven't seen sex to sex with corpses i guess it's definitely i've seen what i can presume to be a deceased person but the problem is everybody in new york city is just so cold and where nobody checks to see like you just assume yeah the guy's probably passed out or something but i i do I do think we're like socially dissolving. Yeah. Because people are absorbing information from it's increasingly decentralizing.

So even now, I mean, if you if you go back 10 years on YouTube, when YouTube was newish in the podcasting space, you hated it. People got way more views than they get these days. I'm like talking about like young turks for instance like their views are way low relative to where they used to be everybody has been decentralizing even you know with all due respect joe rogan's views appear to be lower than they were four or five years ago because more and more channels keep emerging and people are seeking out their hangouts you know what i mean i feel like we're five years away from podcasts having you know like 300 viewers and it's just people basically hanging out with their buddies

yeah that's about it if you could monetize like uh residual monetizations so like monetize the monetization yeah so whereas one pod you might get like five percent of that podcast revenue and then that guy gets two percent of your revenue so there's these webs because it won't be about one guy gets all the views in the future you're doing like subprime mortgages for podcast i'll tell you i got an idea for you danny you're gonna make a lot of money we're gonna collateralize the loans so imagine this you mentioned like you've been going on about this ai stuff because that dude made those comedy videos about us yeah and you saw that too i mean i make i'd make tons of ai videos i was talking to a media personality a few months ago who said and it's not my business it's you know but he was

talking about how he's already preparing to do fully ai produced news videos yeah so you will think you're watching him talk and it's not going to be him yeah i mean i can tell you just even seeing that video today like i've been making ai videos for maybe six months now and the way it's changed just in the last six months like how much better it's gotten like the video that that guy made today you couldn't make that six months ago right we should be so play like 20 seconds for reference so people can see how crazy yeah well i mean we'll get into a full thing oh we'll play it in the after show well just because it's it's extremely graphic and not family yeah it is like it looks like almost it's clearly

ai but here's the thing you can go into chat gpt right now and say i bet i could do this right now write me a comedy bit in the style of ryan long yeah and it'll do it yeah and then all you got to do is write that and then plug it into the video and say, make Ryan Long say this. Yeah. It won't be as good for sure. Cause it's at the end of the day, it's still derivative, but you, but you say you're like, Hey, you know, you say it's obviously AI to you. It is. It's obviously I pop that thing up on Facebook and tell me people think it's all right.

Right. I mean, but we're a year away from it being perfect. Yeah. So I, I played for Alison AI video and she was like, oh, I thought you recorded that as a joke. Yeah. I told my parents. No, no, for sure. Like, I made, I had this one AI, I made this AI USAID 60 Minutes interview.

It was great. And I put that on Facebook. Not, it went viral on Facebook. Not one person knew it was a joke. And then one person was like, this can't be real. This is so crazy. And then this woman would go in the comments and was like this can't be real this is so crazy and then this woman would go in the comments be like this is real this is what they're doing wow i just realized something crazy so uh youtube has this feature where you can upload alternate language

tracks yeah have you ever seen this yeah what's stopping somebody from saying okay here let's take a political issue for instance let Let's talk about homeschooling or something. And then looking at the data on the opinion on homeschooling from Spanish speakers, let's say, I don't know if this is true, but let's just say 80 percent of people who speak Spanish hate homeschooling and they think people should be in school. Actually, let's invert it. 80 percent of Spanish speakers like homeschooling and want to be with the family. And then 80% of English speakers don't agree with homeschooling. What's to stop someone from making a video that's them saying in English, you could actually, here's the crazy thing.

You could just show facts on homeschooling. And the English track says homeschooling is not good. You shouldn't have your kids there. But if you play in Spanish, it says homeschooling is good. Oh, easily. One video with two different messages with different demographics. The crazy thing is it's so cheap to make these videos. The compute required.

That video today, $10 maybe, $5 of compute, depending on how many times you need to render it. It's not even prohibitive in any way. You don't need a special computer, nothing. People want to watch it while we're talking. It the real dylan danger on twitter you can find his stuff he's great i don't know how we got into this considering we were talking about because well what i was to keep going we'll probably realize why this came up as we keep going um that people keep saying learn how to use ai learn how to use ai the future is learning because you're not going to have to do a show, dude.

You just make your AI do it. We were talking about decentralization and how it's going to become super isolated. And we're going to get to the point where, like, I swear, we're already seeing this now. It starts with edited videos, Donald Trump and the very fine people hoax. Now with AI, we're there. Like you were saying, go on Facebook and see if someone believes it's fake or not. They're going to believe it's absolutely real.

You can make whatever you want. Have you ever seen that Alfred Hitchcock interview from probably, I don't know, the 50s or something? And he's talking about the future of movies. And he's like, yeah, in the future, there's going to be a movie where you go to a theater and you're the main character, right? And for every person, they're the main character.

And you watch this movie and you're the main. And he said this in the 50s. Those exist with VR. I've seen a movie where you are going through the movie. You can 360 watch the movie. No, no, no. You're not inside of it. You're watching it and you're the lead.

Or you can talk to them. No, no, no. You're just watching a movie. It's a written movie. you're the lead like you know i'll one up hitchcock i think we're to the point where it's going to be like a vr world video game movie where they're reacting to you maybe yeah but your version hitchcock's version may happen first i'm saying he said that in the 50s and we're and now i'm like yeah because he's on five years so right now if i if i go to chat gpt there's a, there's a certain degree of notoriety you have to have. Yeah.

So if I wrote, write a script about homeschooling in the style of Tim Pool. It actually does. And it's gotten better. Sure, here's a Tim Pool-style script about homeschooling, mixing his signature tone of skepticism, cultural commentary, and populist edge. Hey, it's shit. So here's the deal, guys. The public education system is collapsing.

Really. Test scores are plummeting, schools are pushing insane ideological garbage, and parents are fed up. And you know what? They're pulling their kids out in record numbers. Since 2020, homeschooling has nearly doubled. This is what it's claiming sounds like me. Yeah, I can see you saying this stuff. And if i did all of my videos without me on camera

i could just have an ai voice sure do it yeah the problem is it's not going to make quite like the points that you want to make it'll be it'll still be like a water like i made this video do you see elon musk did that um tesla event recently and it looked like he was doing stand-up do you see that like anyways i made an ai because i was like it looks like he's doing stand-up so then i made an ai video of him doing stand-up but then i went into i wanted to be like kind of hacky so then i went into chat gpt and i was like write me a script of elon a hacky script of elon musk doing stand-up and it still wasn't good like in grok it was like it still was like i'm like this is even too bad can you be like make it better not good enough it still was like i'm like this is even too bad can you be like

make it better not good enough it's just like comedy it has i know some comedians do use grok and like ai for like ideas but actually like the punch lines all you're gonna get is like pretty generic stuff indeed well let's let's get back to the helicopter thing because the uh the main point here was believe it or not my friends as we're dealing with a very tragic incident, prominent liberal activists are blaming Trump. So you got Brooklyn. There was no helicopter crashes during the Biden administration. The orange man is bad. That's right.

You got Brooklyn dad defiant. Is this actually his account? Because this looks like 1.3 million followers. And he says, yet another deadly aviation incident under the Trump administration. It's only been 80 days. Feel like years. You've got call to activism. Why the F is this happening so much after Trump became

president? You got Jojo from Jers. Maybe we'd have fewer aviation accidents and the secretary of hot hot tub sexportation. What was focusing this time? I don't know what that's a reference to. I don't know, but she's crazy. Yeah. Also, aviation accidents are not up.

Because when that plane flipped in Toronto, I have a group chat, and we were like, are aviation's up? And then accidents, and then we started looking into it, and they're not. I can't remember one of the data. I think fatalities are up. Yeah. But the number of accidents is not. It's like... I mean, a commercial

airliner crashing in the United States is incredibly rare. Yeah, right. Like, I think before the one in D.C. where the helicopter collided with it or whatever,

before that, the last one was the one in New York with, like, Sully. And then it was 9-11 before that. Like, these aren't frequent occurrences.

You gotta keep in mind, too, that if Boeing has been – remember that Boeing whistleblower came out and then died? He was going to testify in front of Congress and was dead within a week. Accidents happen! Accidental suicide, I guess. But basically, that could be 10 years later. You see Boeing messing with their – or any airplane company.

If they've been – there's malfeasance. You're not going to see it the same – if the administration overseeing that company company yeah i mean i have a guy he's um an airline mechanic commercial airline mechanic that calls into my call-in show sometimes and he told me he's like if for the commercial stuff the regulations are so crazy like they don't there's no corners being cut, nothing. It's so strict. Most of the accidents are if someone owns a Cessna and there's no requirements. You can

maintain that however you want. And those are generally like, is that what happened with this helicopter as a private? Yeah, it's just like a tourism company. Bro, you ever go to Jersey City? I went to Jersey City with Allison and they got a helicopter tour there and it was scary.

It was like, the helicopter is just a tin can. Oh, yeah. Like, we were sitting in it, and I'm just like, this is like two millimeters of steel or something. My dad told me once that the Vietnam helicopter, I was going to call it the Jesus bolt, or the Jesus nut, that nut that holds the rotor in. And if that thing comes out, you're like, you're praying to God that that thing doesn't come out. Have you been in a helicopter? Negative. No. So just me? Negative. No.

So just me and Tim. Yeah, they got helicopter tours that fly over Jersey City, and it's pretty unnerving. Yeah. It's like a small helicopter. Do they have the doors open and such? No. Some of the New York ones, Manhattan, like you can open the door and really like... You're strapped in?

Yeah, you're strapped in and you feel like you're just like above manhattan kind of thing jeez yeah well we all know this is purely political and that donald trump and doge somehow caused the aircraft to not well i thought the same thing about biden when that other plane crash happened i'm just kidding i don't joke a lot it sounds really weird we can tell uh on tv anyway yeah i think i think we're entrenched in decentralized media yeah as well as uh extreme tribalism yeah i mean look if a water main burst someone's gonna be like trump do you guys remember when um what was that what was that thing jackson hinkle is his name i think yeah he came on a show he right we had him on before but there's some tweet he had about gta where he said it was woke because of Israel or something.

Okay. It was something like that, and I'm just like, to a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Correct, yeah. Brooklyn Dead Defiant, JoJo from Jers, these other activists, these other liberals, they don't have anything else to talk about. Yeah. So if something's big in the news, it has to be Donald Trump related. Sure. Which is fortunate for us because as we're politically minded and something's in the news, they made it Donald Trump related. Sure. Which is fortunate for us because as we're politically minded and something's the news,

they made it Donald Trump related for us. Sure. I mean, that's somewhat facetiously, but it's kind of true. I mean, when your approval rating's 20% or whatever it is right now. I mean, they're just grasping at straws right now. They go, I don't know.

Is this something? Yeah. Helicopter crash? An earthquake's going to happen. It's like, today was a particularly slow news day. Orange man bad earthquake. Yeah, they're going to be like, the earthquake happened because Donald Trump is fracking. Yeah.

Like, they're going to find a way to make it their thing. You make a good point that it makes it easy for shows like this to persist because outside fluences make it political. So you make money off of it. People want to, we already know what we're talking about with politics a lot of times. I mean, you particularly know a lot about it. And look, there's people on the right who do the same thing. What's that?

There's people on the right when Biden was in office and that happened to go, oh, Biden did this. So it's profitable. And it's like, yeah, well, I'm going to ride this cow. But at the same time, it's not healthy for the psyche, the human psyche to constantly be refocusing on politics. A family of five died. And you're like, yeah, Trump. You're like, all right. I just came in and they were playing catch down there. Did you guys see that? You guys were down there playing

catch? Or playing wiffle ball. Wiffle ball. Baseball. Foam ball. And Grand Slam. Just throwing a ball back and forth. How many kids, we're talking about kids with social anxiety and problems, how many kids play throw catch these days? That's a big problem because that is the most ancient human evolutionary thing we have is throwing. It separated us from the rest of the animal kingdom. That's a big problem because that is the most ancient human evolutionary thing we have

is throwing. It separated us from the rest of the animal kingdom. That's why I'm like, with everything Trump's doing, I'm just like, bring it on. This country needs a cultural hard reset or something. So me and the boys were in Chicago. This was over Christmas and we were walking around downtown

and we came across this building that had ledges and stuff. And I was like, wow, you could skate here. And I'm like, where are all the kids at? And my buddies from Chicago were like, kids don't go outside anymore. Yeah. And I was just like. They're skating in roadblocks.

They're not doing anything at all. They're literally sitting indoors doing nothing. Just rotting on a computer somewhere. Dude, it's going to be really weird in 20 years. Like, people don't understand the scrolling, the TikTok generation. Look, it's one thing when we're like the podcast generation where the media we consume is long form conversations, two hours long. And we all bragged about it for years. We were like, we don't watch these soundbites on Fox News and MSNBC and

CNN. We get hours hours long deep conversation from prominent individuals and now it's right back to people are swiping through youtube shorts instagram tiktok and they're getting their news in 30 second clips that are often completely out of context the movie industry too apparently is evolving to one minute shorts it's like it'll be a 90 minute movie there'll be 91 minute shorts. That's awful. You know, you were you were saying that the things have devolved back into swiping. There's a reason why, you know, network news became what it was. Right. Like there used to be 60 minutes that had like longer form interviews and stuff like that. But the reason is because people don't want to pay attention to law.

Not not there isn't an audience because obviously Joe Rogan still out there and there are still podcasts that do. But the majority of people find it easiest to consume news like that. Yeah. Small bits. What do I need to know? And so that way I can I can get through my little dopamine hits. You know, here's some sports highlights. Here's. Yeah. And I'm not saying that again, I'm not saying that there aren't people that are looking for long form stuff, because obviously there are. There are tons of people, but young people, people that aren't interested in the getting into into in-depth stuff. They're going to be looking for give me the little bit of news as fast as I possibly can. And that's why, again, it went from that kind of format on the news with three minute hits

on on your your hour long or half hour long news program. Now, then it went people went to the big long form and now it's back to, you know, you know, what's interesting is I was just thinking about like the actual physical tribalism. You get a big continent like the United States and you get a bunch of tribes and what happens? Well, depending on the density of the population population one person conquers all those other tribes right yeah so i was thinking like is there a reality is there a possibility where with all of the media spaces decentralizing and people getting their news and information from smaller and smaller channels will there be a point at which one person comes and dominates every platform no it's not possible in

the media landscape like to try you got daily wire tries to like bring big talents in and create an umbrella rumble is sort of but it's an it's a platform so it's not really claiming ownership yeah it's just a platform but this is a distribution network so rumble is this is different i'm saying will it come to a point where everybody turns to one person for me? No, there's just so many options like, you know, everybody has such varied tastes and, you know, everybody likes different things and... I think the reality is that people are just going to choose to listen to what makes them feel good.

Yeah, I mean, some people still like to watch MSNBC you know, all 30,000 of them. I heard today people don't follow this is from Chase Hughes. He's great. He's a brilliant, brilliant like ex-military uh behavioral scientist and he's saying that people don't i think it was chasing this people don't follow the best person they follow the one that's giving them the clearest

command direction and that could i mean for me like i i'll follow somebody and then the moment i catch them and where i'm like this is a source. And then I catch them in something that's obviously a lie. And I go, OK, I can't trust you anymore. But I think MSNBC still has viewers. Of course. So even when you can and people talk about this all the time with their parents. Like I can show my aunt the video and she doesn't care. So there will be factions of people who are interested in nuanced conversation.

But I think it's substantially less than most people realize yeah and if you look at msnbc's ratings like probably the 25 to 49 demo is not looking good like it's only a matter of time nothing yeah it's probably like 10 000 i'm fascinated with the other segment of people like you got the people that are falling into the one minute short 30 second soundbite reality and then these other people are going like two times speed 2.5 times speed or like 1.75 whatever you watch long form faster yeah and that's an interesting evolution and it's like soon we're just gonna be able to upload the whole thing to your brain and just soon it's just gonna be like full rogan episode four hour talk and just goes that's true i mean if you can just bend the the pathways to yeah you just like brute force it into your brain it's the read write thing that yeah i had it like times nine

million and it's just in there i've been uh i've been looking at a bunch of different like american subcultures and it's not just media media is obviously the space we're in right now and so i can say like people are getting their views from a bunch of different people every single day. New channels emerge. New audiences emerge. And over a long enough period of time, more channels means less market share for everybody else. But it's affecting literally everything. Right. Somebody was super chatting about Frisbee golf, having like no audience and having no money.

There are there's no American pastime anymore. No, obviously it was baseball for a while. Baseball's still doing OK. It's doing OK. But I don't know how many people. I mean, it's literally I'mime anymore. No. Like, obviously, it was baseball for a while. Baseball's still doing okay. It's doing okay, but I don't know how many people, I mean, it's literally, I'm not saying nobody does, I'm saying I don't know how many people are actually going to these events anymore. I mean, actually, you know what?

The MLB just canceled their deal with ESPN because their ratings were abysmal. Wow. And they were, like, charging them, you know, money based off of, like, 10 years ago viewership. That's what I'm saying because, you know, we've been talking about maybe going to a baseball game for a long time. We should never do it.

Dude, watching AI is going to make you plenty of baseball games. Oh, man, I have the Oculus, and they have this thing where you can't remember what it's called, but it's an app, and there's the NHL and the NBA. There's like an MMA one where like for the NHL one, you're literally on the glass, like first row on the glass. And then when the puck goes down the ice, it puts you, it just like a camera switches and you're at center ice. And then you're when the puck gets to the other end of the ice.

Now you're back on the glass, like first row. It's incredible. Like when you see it and you go like, man man this is a borderline preferable to going to a game the ai stuff is going to be crazy yeah like i've been saying for a while we are it's closer than we realize where you're gonna you're gonna have disney disney um it's gonna be called like procedural disney or something maybe a better word than that for marketing purpose they call it disney world yep disney life and you're gonna you're gonna open up your app on for marketing purposes. What are they called? Disney World. Yep. Disney Life. They should. And you're going to open up your app on the TV

and you're going to click the microphone button and say, Spider-Man and Hulk Hogan are best friends and it's a rom-com. And then it's going to be like processing

and it's going to take a few minutes and then it's going to make the movie. Could you imagine you go to VR theme park and it's a complete world. There's no borders

like at the theme park. AI generated virtual realities. Oh, for sure there was a video i saw this week actually of some guy he made like tom and jerry videos do you see those someone made ai tom and jerry videos now the prompts for them like the future of dominating stuff dominating this stuff is gonna be able is gonna be for the people who can like figure out how to prompt it properly because the prompts were like insane like literally pages of prompts to get these like two minute videos. But the videos were amazing.

So do they use AI to write the prompts? No, no, no, no, no. Can you? Yes, you can. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Absolutely. No, no, that's how I make, so I've been posting comics to my Instagram

and all like the purists are angry. They're like, this is AI garbage, don't do it. But they convey the idea that I want. And so what I do is I'll go into, I'll go into LGBT and I'll say, I'll write a short paragraph about the idea, but I never tell it to make the comic. It wastes your time. What I tell it to do is write a script like this. And so for the comic I made yesterday, where it's the guy who walks up to X, the headquarters,

and says, what's this? Then he goes inside. Everyone's screaming to have their lungs. Then he's like, what the hell? And then he runs out and he's like collapsing i wrote a man goes to x uh hq when he goes inside everyone's screaming ah he then freaks out as everyone's yelling at him and then the next panel is him on the ground with his hands on his head write the script it writes it out and then you have to go in and say okay change this and change this and change this because it gets it wrong yeah then you tell to generate the comic and then 15 iterations later it makes when it's viable right and you got to put in the camera like the like the stuff like

you have to put in the prompts like camera moves like this way like tracks this person like it's got to be incredibly specific so you'd probably build an ai that is like a center mode ai that you could be like all right ai write me a script for Suno and you designate what other AI program it's going to be writing. It's called agentic AI. So it's going to be an AI that's specifically for making videos. Right. Like that's what that's one of the things that they're working on now is not there's not likely going to be a AGI in the very near future, but some kind of agentic AI, an agent, something that does something for you. That kind of stuff is getting really, really good.

And so you'll have an AI that knows how to make videos. So you'll be able to give it basic prompts and then it'll do a lot of the behind the scenes work for you because it's designed specifically to make videos and then you'll have a you're going to eventually have ai in your phone that knows how to operate your phone so you'll say it'll be like you know the whole like hey i'm not going to say it i don't want to turn everyone's machines on but you tell your phone i want to go to new york this weekend i need a flight i need a hotel i need a ride to and from the airport. And I want to eat sushi when I get there. And it'll do all that stuff. Well, the thing is

it can't pay for it yet. It can do the itinerary. But that's why you have to have the cross availability in the phone. So that way it can use all the apps in your phone to do all of the things. Yeah, we're not far from that. That stuff is very, very close. And so like, agentic AI will do all the apps in your phone to do all of the things. Yeah, we're not far from that. That stuff is very, very close. And so like agentic AI will do all the stuff that Tim's talking about, how he has to be really detailed or that Danny was talking about.

You have to be really detailed. That detail will become something that AI handles for you. Yeah, it'll almost start prompting you. Yes. It'll say like, do you want this? Do you want this? So you won't even need to know the prompts because it'll essentially say, what about this? What about this? And you'll just have a conversation. And then it'll be like, take a crack at what the story actually is uh oh it's about voter id because the last name if you change your last name they say that it makes it more difficult to vote this

is how democrats convey information to people yeah and this is so we were so this is about the save act that uh you need proof of citizenship to vote. That's it. If you want to vote and you're registering to vote, you got to prove you're a citizen. You can do that in a variety of ways. Sucks for me. Good. Well, because I'm not a citizen. I look forward to voting in every election.

Oh, indeed. This is the problem we have in this country with the decentralization of media. There is an audience for this. And they are now sitting there going, but what? They don't want want women to vote and they're going to believe it yeah yep this is like makes the democrats don't want women to vote yep like because this is like actually kind of skewering the democrats here that's because they step that's because the democrats allowed the bill to pass yeah they stepped out of line stepped out of line but so then there's all these democrats who are like yeah now again democrats don't want women to vote?

This topic in the United States is one of those 80-20 topics. Americans, by vast majority, say we want to have, we want to make sure that only American citizens are voting. But yet, the media, and not only is it reasonable, it's something that's basically ubiquitous worldwide, except for in the United States. But basically, the media is twisting it so that you can't even say that this is trying to inform people. This is pure propaganda, and it's counter to what the American people want. Every single poll they do, it turns out 75%, 80%, 70%. They all say we want to have voter ID. Some kind of voter ID. So is it a lock that you need voter ID

to vote now? Not yet. I don't know if this is the Senate. I'm trying to find anywhere in the article where it actually says women can't vote but it doesn't. It literally does not. The argument is that because if you're a woman and you're married, you change your last name, there'll be a

discrepancy on your birth certificate compared to what your ID says, and that might disenfranchise you. Do you need two forms of ID? Like your ID's not enough? No. It says some claim that requiring proof of citizenship is too onerous a burden, or that it will disenfranchise those whose names have changed for reasons like marriage.

Have you ever tried to enter into a contract, and they go, ma'amam that's not your real name yeah sorry i can see them if also with like mail-in voting if they're like we're gonna make you vote in person they're they're making it more difficult for people to vote that's exactly i mean there are some like infirm people who like probably cannot physically vote who should be allowed to but yeah obviously if you can vote like you should infirm i guess if there's a medical reason that they can't get to the yeah there's like imagine you're like an elderly person you're like yeah i don't know it's really i'm open to that yeah well but this is nonsense and here's

the thing i say this is nonsense i'm actually not in favor of women voting period there you go and i'm still not this is nonsense if we could get rid of if we could we could find some way to disenfranchise women it would be a good good start because we need more than just women. I'm the woman in here, I guess. No, I'm just kidding. I'm going to be the woman for this conversation, guys. I think that there should be a lawsuit. It is absurd to me that women have the right to vote but can't be conscripted.

Yeah. Agreed. Equal rights, equal responsibilities. Conscription doesn't mean we want women on the front line. It means they can be working in offices or doing something. But the idea, the scenario this creates is that women can vote for war knowing they have no responsibility for it. What about women with no kids could be drafted?

Nope. And have kids too. Yeah, but men don't have to. Do what? Feed the kids. The reason that the draft exists. I mean, honestly, the women with kids are probably a little hardened compared to the ones with no kids. You're like, what are you going to do?

The reason the draft exists, right? The reason the draft exists is because they need infantrymen. That's the vast majority of people that get drafted. They're just rifled. They get put in the position of rifle. Stand in front. The World War II draft. I'm pretty sure they didn't draft.

There was very little draft in World War II because dudes were signing up. Everybody was like, let's go. Everybody was like 12-year-olds were lying and saying they were 18. No, women stayed home because they went into the jobs that the men left. Right, the industrial sector. Like Rosie the Riveter is a famous picture of that woman making a pump in her arm. Because it was all factory workers,

but you're saying they weren't drafted into the factory. They just filled the void. It was the wartime effort, you know? Have you ever seen that video of the Vietnam draft that was on TV? They televised it like a game show. It's one of the craziest things I've ever seen. Really?

You can look at it. It's on YouTube. Literally, it looks like a game show. It's one of the craziest things I've ever seen. Really? You can look at it. It's on YouTube. Literally, it looks like a game show. It's from the 60s. And they call everybody's number based on birth date. Draft lottery. And if you were first, you were going right up. This is a live report on tonight's picking of the birth dates for the draft.

Here at Selective Service Headquarters in Washington is CBS News correspondent Roger Mudd. Roger Mudd. Good evening. Let's just jump ahead. It was the 29th year of the 18th barring performance. The next birthday in order, April 24th. And so on down the line this evening.

So wait, how did it work? If you were the first birthday, were like you're going like right away but like everybody with that birthday they pulled yeah it was all the 18 year olds first and then they did all the 19 year olds with the birthday and then all the 20 year olds with the birthday but like if you were the 365th birthday yeah like obviously if you're in college but but what i mean like when you went to basic training on the draft everybody the same birthday i guess your group probably i could be wrong about this but i don't i don't know if it was by uh age i think it was just if you're that birthday you're the first up

i'd love to have it was so basically say imagine the dread if you're watching this and you don't want to go and they just call you canada they were joining the call your birthday people were saying they were gay to get out of the military back then. That works. That's the thing. The reason that people were doing things like joining the Navy or trying to flee is because they knew that you get drafted and you go into the infantry. You go into the meat grinder.

Meat grinder jungle into Cambodia. Here we go. Cambodia was secret stuff. There were some dudes in Cambodia. Yeah, but they were secret. Anybody's birthday called yet? April 24th. You get drafted. Anybody here's birthday called yet?

Nope. April 24 is 002. I'm like, if you know somebody with that. Are these individual people? No, what will happen is they call a date. If you're eligible to be drafted, which was, I guess, what, all American men of a certain age. And then if you were slot number one, you guys are like the next up.

It was all the 18-year-old slot number one. Then they go to slot number two and it was all the 18-year-olds from slot number two birthday. Then all the 18-year-olds from slot number three birthday. Then when they're all done, they'd go back and be all the 19-year-olds from slot number one, all the 19-year-olds. They would re-pick a birthday for slot number one again? They'd just keep, as far as I know, it was the same order. And then it would go down the list again for all the

19-year-olds. I mean, if that's the case, if you're an 18-year-old, you're like, oh my god. We'll be drafting. The fact that they, I mean, I guess they had to televise it back then, but you know, I couldn't be wrong. I didn't know if it was by 18. I think they took the 18-year-olds

first. They took. What a way to look at that. Isn't that crazy, though? Just to be watching with your family. Would you guys, if you got drafted, would you go? If I knew what they knew, what we know now, I never would have went to that job. I mean, I would have tried to avoid it. You know why the draft?

I knew by like 67. You know why they got rid of the draft? No, why? It doesn't work. Oh. It might work for something like your home homeland is under attack but one of the reasons i can't remember actually had someone on the show was telling us about this when they sent the troops uh the conscripts to vietnam they would fire above the tree line and intentionally miss the the vietnamese because they didn't want to kill people

yeah because it was like a bunch of scared young men who never, weren't trained and didn't know how to fight. So they had to change the way they were training people. And they realized, like, you need people to choose. And so I was talking to, I can't remember what his name was, it was a long time ago, a politician, that they decided economics would be the vector by which they bolster the military by money. They were like, bad economic conditions are good for wartime efforts.

So they control the Fed. They control the interest rates. Put people in a bind. Crank up unemployment. Offer them good jobs. And you will fill up your military. Sounds like what's going on in Canada right now. Is that what they're doing?

Well, the unemployment rate is pretty high. It's 7% in Canada right now. They're drafting people. I mean, there is like, it's not a lot, but there is some Canadians who are like, yeah, if Trump tries to come in here, and you go, with what guns? Yeah, but the view of Canadians is like, in America, you've got SEAL Team 6. You know, like a helicopter flies in the middle of the night, a bunch of dudes in night vision goggles jump down. And then Canadians are like sitting there riding a moose around drinking maple syrup. I mean, the Canadians actually did do pretty well in Afghanistan.

And in World War II. And World War II. But I'm saying the largest. Is it true you guys carry a hip flask of maple syrup? No. I'm not a big maple syrup guy. That was the IVs. If you get shot, they put the IV in.

You put it on topically on the wound. Yeah, like honey. Topically. Yeah, just kind of. It might actually work. Like the stuff that they put on a boxer. If you're in the military, you know that the solution is Motrin and fresh socks. No matter what happens.

Whereas in Canada, the solution is rub some maple syrup on. Do you want to know how bad the military situation is in Canada? Sure. So there, okay, in the United States, the United States has what, like 350 to 400 million people, depending on, there's 90,000 IRS agents in the United States for 300, let's say 350 million people. In Canada, the Canada Revenue Agency,

which is the equivalent, there are 60,000 Canada Revenue Agents for 40 million people, and there are 60,000 people in the military. Wow. Looks like the bigger threat is tax fraud. Yeah, but like we have proportionally, we have 60,000. The U.S. has 90,000 and a population of almost 10x.

I just want to stress, it says not to put maple syrup on a wound. There's a lot of sugar in it. I don't appreciate this anti-Canadian stuff. Sugar and water, so it will feed and grow bacteria, whereas honey has no water in it, and it's just glucose, so it suffocates and dehydrates.

It says medical-grade manuka honey has methylglyoxal, which kills bacteria. That's pro-bee propaganda. Pro-bee propaganda kills bacteria. Yeah, it's pro-B propaganda. Pro-B propaganda right here. Anti-Canadian pro-B. Well, the Canadians have a strategic maple reserve. That's true.

I mean, there is a crazy, like, there was a crazy... Maple heist. Maple heist, yeah. What happened? Like something, I don't know, $30 million worth of maple syrup was stolen. What are you doing with all that maple syrup? Sell it on the black market, baby. To who?

Pancake? Probably Americans. Probably breakfast joints. Comes down in like a tanker and they go, oh, it's just oil. We got Vermont, Maine, and New Hampshire. Do you think that the Canadian military is just small because the United States has been basically serving us? That's a part of it. They don't fund it.

They're very demoralized. For my call-in show, I've had, because I talk about the whole Canada thing a lot, like what's going on. And I've had at least six active members of the Canadian military who are like, yeah, we already have our white flags ready if anything goes down because we're not fighting for this.

Yeah, it sounds like they don't, there's not much. Very demoralized. I mean, they were like, their priorities the last 10 years under Trudeau was like making sure that the Canadian military had tampons in the men's bathroom. Dude, what is going on with the clown show? They have like three

rusted out submarines. Like, they don't they have no infrastructure. And then Polyev comes in and he's like, I'll give you hope. And people are like, yeah, but we're scared of Trump, so we're going to vote for the other guy. Yeah, I mean, he's done. Like, right now in the betting markets, Mark Carney's close to 80%. I hear he's like, we're like an unformed dude dude i don't know a lot about well he was the he was the head of the bank of england and the bank of canada uh he did a pretty bad job with the bank

of england he did an okay job in the bank of canada you know in bed with the chinese too i hear world economic forum guy yeah you know what's what's actually pretty fascinating is that um as insane as everything is right now politically, people are totally numb. Yeah. Completely numb to what's going on. It's like a war. Let me pull up this story right here. This is from Mediate.

Supreme Court orders Trump administration to retrieve man who was mistakenly deported. This is the man that was determined by a judge to be a part of the MS-13 gang. They say Abrego Garcia. The government had alleged that he was in MS-13 gang, they say Abrego Garcia, the government had alleged that he was in MS-13. He did have an order for removal, but also had an order of protection. The Trump admin said that, well, he had the order for removal. That's why he got removed. But we made

a mistake because we didn't realize he had this protective order stopping the deportation. Supreme court is now saying Trump has to bring the guy back. Yeah. Let me just stress what they're basically saying is if I was the judge, I'd be going, Danny, I hereby order you to have Ian give me $10. Yeah. It's like, what? How do I do that? Because he's already in an El Salvadorian prison. He's an El Salvadorian in El Salvador.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Is he from El Salvador? I'm pretty sure he's in El Salvador. Yeah, he's from El Salvador. Okay. Gilmaro Berger Garcia is an El Salvadorian who was sent to El Salvador? I'm pretty sure he's in El Salvador. Yeah, he's from El Salvador. Oh, okay. Gilmaro Berger-Garcia is an El Salvadoran who was sent to El Salvador. And so what, he had a valid asylum claim?

Because he had an order of deportation. No, he had an order of deportation. And then they filed something, and a judge put a stay on it for like five years or whatever. Gotcha. He got deported, and now they're saying, no, no, you got to bring him back. How is Trump supposed to go to a foreign country and say, give me one of your citizens? And they're going to say, why? And he's going to say, because our courts ordered him back.

He's not allowed to be in the United States, but we're going to bring him back. Well, the courts want him back, even though he's subject to deportation later on. They're going to be like, what? So, hold on. Are you extraditing him as per an extradition treaty? No, he's not actually accused of any crimes in the country. He's just entering illegally, for which the penalty is what? Deportation.

I'd have to do him a favor and send him to Gitmo well el salvador's not gonna do it yeah uh yeah i don't know this is again you know this is uncharted territory for a lot of this stuff so they probably don't have anything in place any mechanism in place it's never happened before so we're getting endlessly that are unprecedented and still news-wise based on media trends advertising it is a typical post-election year with nothing special about it yeah so the terrifying thing is people adapt to their circumstances which is not the terrifying thing but from this insane things happen and it's normal to people yeah well they made us believe that it was normal for like men to play with women's sports so this is just the other side of that coin you try you know do you see the pool

thing in in england oh yeah two two men are all championships and there's two men yeah the women's pool to pull championships two guys yeah so uh you know my you know, my point is like, this is unprecedented, that a president is being ordered to instruct a foreign country to give one of their citizens to us who's not accused of a crime in this country, except for illegal entry to the country for which the penalty is deportation.

So they'd send them here, we'd send them back, it makes no sense. The general media trends are as if nothing is happening. Yeah. I mean, Canada will take this guy. I know that for a fact.

I tell you, dude, Canada will gladly take this guy. Who's your current prime minister? Mark Carney. Oh, and he's going to win. He's the current prime minister. He's the interim prime minister for Justin Trudeau. But he's got a huge lead in the betting markets, which called the last election to a tee.

So I'm going to go ahead and say that he's pretty much a lock. Wow. Yeah, it was supposed to be this other guy, but apparently... Pierre Poliev. Mark Carney was like 10% on Pauly Market two months ago. And then Poliev talked crap about Trump when he was like, I'll stand up to him as opposed to being like, we're going to work together with him because all these Canadians love Trump.

Trump gave it to him. Trump gave it to Carney with this whole trade war thing because one, Poliev was doing the stuff with the nicknames. He kept making nicknames for people. Really? You're just like Trump. We don't want that. We hate this guy now.

Oh, wow. So Poliev was trying to do a Trump kind of personality. He was calling Mark Carney Carbon Tax Carney. Well, yeah. Trump would have called him. I didn't say he was good. Yeah. I just said he was doing it.

Trump would have called him like like cuck carney or something little mark yeah circus carney yeah yeah the clown circus cloud cardi speaking of being desensitized i'm my mind goes to the most extreme you know example just for reference but like they're not the the germans in the 30s were just they did not know a lot of what was going on they were just along for the ride. Maybe they were making a little more money because Hitler had improved the economy because of the incredible amount of military. Were the Jews in this situation the Canadians? The Jews were the Canadians in this situation.

No, there are no Jews in this situation. Well, I guess in this situation, maybe this El Salvadorian guy could be an example of someone that got just roped up. He got whisked away in the night and he wasn't supposed to. But also, if you were a Jew during the World War II and they go, we're deporting you, you're probably like, sick. Right. The argument you're making is that during Germany, the Jews were trying to break into Germany. Yeah, the Jews were trying to leave. The problem is they couldn't leave.

I don't know if they were kicking them out before in the 20s. I think the thing is they wanted to kick them out they couldn't and then they were like all right well then we yeah repopulate that was the that was the meme with aoc when she was like trump's building concentration camps and then someone made a comic where it's auschwitz and the guard is telling and stay out and people are running away so like psycho um what do you call potential reality that won't happen because we're going to nip it in the bud right now is that we try to deport all these illegal aliens, whatever, but we can't. And then domestic violence erupts with all these illegal protesters, immigrants protesting violence. And then you're asking to get deported if you're going to public protests.

But then it's like, look, we can't even get these guys out of the country. What are we going to do with them? Same with what the Nazis did with the Jews. Like, you cannot. That's some reality I don't want to go to. Yeah. That's not going to happen. That's not going to happen.

They're not going to start gassing the legals. They're going to send them to camps. But Trump did say. I mean, they're sending them to El Salvador in prison if they're even not. I mean, that is crazy that they're like, yeah, we're sending them to a different country's prison. Trump said he would like to send the worst Americans to the El Salvadoran prison as well. Yeah. That would be crazy.

Crossing the line. Yeah, yeah. Oh, nice. That would be crazy. But there's not going to be, like, there's no desire. Trump also said he wants to turn the Gaza Strip into a resort. Mara Gaza? Yeah.

I think he says a lot of things. He really shoots from the hip, this guy. He really does. Yeah. Were you seeing? There's just, they're not gonna like make camps for the the illegal aliens no because the the goal right now you might get like japanese internment camps but the government right now is is trying to institute because of how many people there are

here that are illegal right we talked about it the other night you are not going to be able to actually deport all of them so the goal is to make to make it uncomfortable for them to live in the united states and that's why you hear the phrase self-deportation that application that they that the biden now they're finding them a thousand dollars a day like yeah good luck collecting that well that's the point is the point is they don't want to risk actually getting picked up right so if you're an illegal and they're like oh man they're going to find us a thousand dollars a day if i get pulled over and they pop me they're gonna take my property because that's what that's one of the things that they said is we'll take your property just like the irs would so like they'll just

empty your bank account or take whatever you have if you got you know you got money under your sure your your plant you know under your mattress i mean there's illegals who own property yeah absolutely so like that kind of stuff will get taken away. And the point of that isn't that they're trying to collect a bunch of money. The point is to get people to self-deport. I thought that, like, I used to think that term was silly when I first heard of it. But then after you see what

they're talking about, it's like, oh, okay, make it uncomfortable for them to be here. I mean, there's 1.4 like I did the math, there's 1.4 like when Trump came into office, 1.4 million people in the United States with active deportation orders. Like those are people who have gone through the whole system and have been ordered to leave. That's a thousand people a day for four for the entire term just to get those. Yeah. Right. Like to get rid of all the illegals here.

Like the only way you can really do it is like this. Yeah. That kind of essentially instills this fear in them the only way you can really do it is like this. Yeah, that kind of stuff. Essentially instills this fear in them where they kind of take care of it on their own. And the federal government should start punishing business owners that hire people that are illegal. If you are here illegally and or if you if you hire people that are that are here illegally and you knowing and you know it, you should lose your you should lose your business. Like the punishment should be extremely steep, so that way they get rid of them, so it's not worth it. Because right now, they're looking at,

if you can save $20,000, $30,000 a year on each person, or even on, say you've got a car wash, and there's 10 dudes that work there, right? And you can save $50,000 a year by hiring illegals to do the wipe down afterwards and make it so it's not worth the risk. Take their business. And it wouldn't take that. I mean, in a lot of instances, their business is set up so that it would just take it anyways. But that's their problem.

Fair enough. But again, it should be. I mean, everybody in New York is like, well, if we get rid of all these illegals, who's going to wash the dishes? And you're like, okay, well, I don't know. Charge more money for food? I don know yeah i mean additive the point like like hey look man if we if we if we you know you can't say we're not going to make something illegal or punish crime because if there there'll be problems punishing the crime you still punish the crime in a way the illegal immigration the people that are here illegally not all of them

by any stretch but there's a segment of like low uh income kind of lower class i want to say employees like what you're talking about guys that wipe down the car you don't have a lot of skill it's kind of like the roman empire when they had all this slave class and if the slaves had just been deported from rome the entire civilization would have fallen i mean that is an argument that's that's made is for sure like again in new york city everybody's like you know every restaurant like there must be a hundred thousand workers but the thing is is a lot of people who do this like they're only here temporarily yeah anyways because their whole plan i've like spoken to people about this who have family

members who do stuff like that essentially their thing is they come here to the united states they sleep like you know eight to a one bedroom two bedroom. They save up all this money for like seven years, and then they go back to wherever they're from, and they never have to work. And they'll actually send money back in real time. One, they send back money, which is not good for the American economy to have the money just like leave.

But then they take all the money they made with them, they go back to wherever they're from, and they just don't have to work. And they just work like, you know, construction or dishwashing, which is crazy to think that you could be a dishwasher in New York City for seven years, and wherever you're from you could retire on that whereas like if you're actually an american you're like you can't even live millennials can't retire

no they have an average of 15 to 20 000 in their savings but i guess when you compare that to the rest of the world the uh the strategy of the elite global uhal, or whatever you want to call it, played out pretty well. I think that you normalize the economy of every country, and that's how you create globalism. And so the idea that you would make every country as wealthy as the U.S. is absurd. But it is easy to make America as poor as the rest of the countries. Yep. So after the boomers are gone, millennials, their retirement account has $15,000, $20,000 in it.

That's not a retirement account. No. That's a rainy day fund for when your car breaks down. Sure. Especially with inflation. One of my, the main quest line for me is to make sure millennials can retire. I think in this reality. Build a space elevator and make sure millennials can retire.

Because if we- What can be done right now for- Make fuel a tenth of the cost. Well, I mean, again, all these like what Trump's doing with tariffs, like the like, you know, everybody's it's weird to see people on the left complain about the stock market go down because he's literally transferring

money like 8% of Americans own, you know, whatever 90% of all the stocks and he's transferring the money from them to the middle class. All right. What are you complaining about? Ian, let's try this. You want, how much should fuel cost? Oh, oh. Mr. Commodity.

Right now, I'd love to see like. Fix the price of it. 30 cents a gallon. What do you want to be? A Venezuela? No, I'm talking about relative of hydrogen to petroleum. So how much does the gas company make? Well, it doesn't have to be profitable.

What? How do they pay their staff to refine the gasoline? No, I'm talking about hydrogen. I'm talking about hydrogen. You actually make money to produce hydrogen. We're not doing hydrogen. We have electric cars. You said 30 cents a gallon.

The ship has sailed on hydrogen. I'm saying the comparate of hydrogen to petroleum. We are not going to change a 120-year oil infrastructure in a matter of years for millennials to retire. No, no, no. Let's try this again. How do millennials retire? I'm not talking about petroleum. I'm talking about 30 cents a gallon of relative cost to hydrogen fuel. It just doesn't

make fuel cheaper. I didn't say make gas. Well, there's electric cars, which are... How do millennials retire? You said make fuel cheaper. Yes. Okay, but hydrogen fuel, which is not a principal commodity. That's my goal in life right now. I'll tell you how to make i'll tell you how to do it is is these tariffs work and then they eliminate the income tax

and then a lot of people have a lot more money and drives wages up right but then imported and so as long as they this would this fundamentally you'd end up with food being a lot cheaper american property and rent should be theoretically cheaper or less, at least less buying power, but imported goods would be more expensive. So the question for all of you that are listening is, would you mind spending $30,000 for a cell phone if your bread costs 50 cents? I mean, no. I mean, yeah, sorry. Yeah, yeah. Obviously, most people would not want to spend $30,000 on a cell phone, but there'll be ways around that i i feel like you know the a lot of the tariffs will be short term and then i like a lot of this is punitive to china so apple will move their just like they move their facilities to india and vietnam they'll go to some

low tariff country because a lot of the point of the tariffs is just to kind of ding china so this is a report from cnn says iphone could triple in price to three thousand five hundred if they're made in the USA. Now, theoretically, if Trump does get costs down, it would not be thirty five hundred if the tariffs work and income tax works. There's competition and there's people who actually have jobs. It shouldn't be that high. But theoretically, right now, in terms of buying power, what the idea is in this new system that Trump is building, rent will be way cheaper, buying a house will be way cheaper,

but high-end electronics will be way more expensive. Here's the thing. What's the new iPhone? The 18 or something? What are we on, 16? I have a 13. It's the same thing. There's barely any difference in it.

People are on this cycle where they're like, yeah, I need a new iPhone. You're like, you don't need a new iphone every year so if people have to knock in a new iphone every year i don't know dude because you were saying earlier how in six months how ai is advanced in six months well that's things wicked this is the 24 android 24 yeah what does it do it's got crazy i haven't even investigated you can so you don't do anything with it it'll find it on the internet for you. The AI on the Galaxy Ultra, I can take a picture, I hold the stylus down,

it will take the person and I can move them and then AI generate images behind them. It's so powerful. I can take a picture of you right now and I can remove you from that chair. Why would you take a picture of me then? To remove you from the chair.

I want to get a picture of the goddamn chair. I could throw you out of here right now. You're blocking me. But you can, if you take a picture and there's a sign in the background, you can hold it down and grab the sign and remove it. And it will put like bricks over it. And I know like the whole thing with Trump is he goes, look, there's gonna be some short term pain for, you know, long, long term gain. So some of the short term pain is you're not going to get the phone that removes the person from the photo for a little bit. You're going to have to use the phone that doesn't remove the person.

It could have dramatic consequences on the domestic populations falling behind technologically in just the psychic race or the psychological race against the Chinese citizens that have the advanced tech AI phones. I mean, China's in a lot of trouble. Their debt to GDP is like 330%. Trump is trying to cripple them. They have an aging population. Serge just said before the show,

there's a possible chance that they've been inflating their population numbers. They're 1.4 billion. Yeah, they've been lying about so much. I mean, they said COVID came from a goddamn wet market. They manipulated their economy so the housing is worth more money so they can claim a higher net worth of citizens

and leverage that for credit and a bunch of other. They literally manipulate their currency. Right. Everything. Well, so let's go back to that question. The reason why I brought the iPhone tripling in price is because the general idea of the shift in the economy is fine. Import things, but they'll be expensive. Yeah.

Unless they can be made here. So a lot of things may become more expensive. The government, what Trump is doing, he's gutting the government. He's dramatically reducing the budgetary requirements. At the same time, he's launching these tariffs. It looks like his strategy is eliminate the income tax, make the government very small so it can operate just off tariffs. The question I have now is, if that is the play, or if not, or whatever,

what can be done either in i suppose my question is is that what is going to make it so millennials can retire or is there something else that we can do so that millennials so that we can change this we're talking about 20 years yeah i mean there is an element too with the iphone stuff where robotics will come in and just they're not going to be people assembling iphones period like it'll just be robots in five years or something. Oh, dude, especially with Optimus and Atlas. So, like, the— Robo people?

This might be kind of a moot point regardless because we won't need Chinese or American people to assemble. Has anyone stopped to consider what Elon Musk is doing? He's sending robots to Mars. No, he's not. Next year, I think. That's incorrect. He's sending Optimus.

I'm going to clarify this for you. Oh, good. Thanks. Elon Musk is inventing Neuralink so that you can upload your brain to the robot and you can go to Mars. Oh, shit, dude. You're speaking my language now. Elon buys X for access to the data stream. We call it the fire hose. He has the best stream of human consciousness for programming.

And the worst worst and the absolute worst well it's every it's all of that i know it's all of us okay everybody needs a sewage this is the best training model training data for a large language model to create these ai programs he's working on optimus space travel and neural link all of this aligns with uploading your brain to the machine and you going to other places. Or it'll be like a surrogate machine that people can time share. And we'll all be able to, I'll get it from 6 to 7 tomorrow. You'll get it from 7 to 8.

And then I'll port my consciousness into it. And I'll be on Mars. And then I'll be back. And you can go in and use the same robot. It's going to be like. You'll be able to use the same robot at the same time. What's that? Altered Carbon?

Was that the name of the show? Yeah. Where you can download your brain into like a chip in your neck and then take it out and upload it to a different body? Because at first – That's where they're going with Neuralink, bro. At first it's just going to be – you'll be in the robots. You'll just be like in a movie where you turn and the robot will turn maybe. But then eventually, yes, of course, you'll be you'll i don't know it will have sensors on it

where you can actually feel touch yes things like yeah and they're gonna put they're gonna put they're gonna look like people they're not gonna be these weird robot drone things they're gonna put skins and stuff on them and be able to walk on the surface dude it's yep and they're and and the argument is mars is minus 44 how do humans operate there uh i do think there's a lot of things they're going to do with ai they can literally drop a bunch of robots on mars and say figure it out yeah that's the goal and then the robots are going to be like you got a boss plant a bunch of icon yeah do nothing start building yeah they're gonna start you gotta plant a bunch of radishes first i call i keep thinking daikon they're like

what do we call the first city on Mars? It's called daikon. You got to build giant biospheres. I think we can, if we plant... We don't want to all eat radishes. Only at first, because it breaks up the soil, and it'll aerate the soil, and then we can start... Talking about some Soviet dystopia

where all we eat is radishes. But the soil is not organic matter, so there's going to be things missing from it. Yeah, we have to introduce stuff slowly. Right, you need organic compounds so that you can grow the plants. You need a landfill. When it rots, it eats itself and can grow new daikon on Earth. We're going to need a bacteria that consumes iron and can survive at cold temperatures to spam blast that planet with bacteria.

Because you're going to need to create an organic layer for higher life forms, like plants, to grow out of. They're going to have to build biospheres so that life can exist as it grows and expands. But I don't know how this helps millennials retire. I'm going to tell you this. They have more space to move to. Millennials are going to retire. Property is cheap on Mars. You're going to live in the pod, plug your brain into the VR,

and you're going to live in a fake world where you're Spider-Man. That sucks. Maybe. There's a board game called Terraforming Mars that actually we have it. It's great. It's a bunch of corporations that are in a race to terraform the planet first. And you're one of those corporations. Elon's going to climb it.

He's going to land there. He's going to put a flag on the. That's the flag? How does that work? Trigger some people. Trigger some protesters. I actually I own Mars now. And, you know, now and it's mine.

It's a corporation. It's his corporation. So does a corporation now become a country? Is he going to build his own country on the planet? It's like the East India Trading Company. It's an organization with a hierarchical government. It really was. It was like a government. It was a corporation that was the most powerful government on Earth. One of them.

It killed 50,000 people for black pepper. They colonized India. No Chinese eggs without black pepper? You can't do it. Inedible. So I totally understand why the East India Trading Company had to kill all those people to get it. So we'll start with,

I don't like the idea of starting with a corporation as our government, but, you know, maybe that's just the old... I mean, maybe there'll be some U.S. government tie-in. Can we just mention how good it is in this world that there was a period where men would board a massive warship and the captain would be like, Men, today we set sail on a 12, you know, like a 16-month journey. And we will come back with pepper.

Yeah, having a disinterry and dying. And they're like encountering wild animals and there's storms and they barely make it back and the king is like you have done great things for our nation and today it's on every table at every diner and nobody touches it yeah i was i just made a video about deconstruction versus destruction of government and how if you destroy a government when chaos ensues the thing that i think that people don't consider or that should be is how the supply chain just completely evaporates when chaos erupts. Like, you think all that food, all that stuff, that is so delicate to maintain the ability to access black pepper. Yeah.

So it's super important that we don't destroy our government, that we do deconstruct it and reconstruct it. I agree. Let's not destroy our government. You know what? You know where I think we're going? I think we're going the way of ancient Rome, as I'm not the first to speculate. But when Rome collapsed, we got the Dark Ages. People forgot how to take a dump in a toilet.

Yeah. They just started throwing it out the window. They were like, well, you know, how do you forget this stuff? How do you lose technology like that? I guess it was written down on paper and they got invaded and the paper got destroyed. Maybe the historical records were destroyed. I think you would pass that along verbally. You know what's even crazier?

Is that the language morphed into a bunch of different languages. Yeah, from Latin. Latin was the original. When Rome collapsed. French and Spanish. Everybody started speaking something else. Yeah. I think of a lot of data storage. You can store data in glass in orbit. We could store our data in in orbit so if something were to happen on the surface like a nuclear but we're not going to know how to get it back have you seen the movie they'd have to

figure that out they'd be like oh it's up there you go yeah good have you seen the movie moonfall no no uh the movie starts as being about the moon is falling and then you're like okay and then they're like the moon's gonna crash into earth and everyone's going to die. Then it turns out way later in the movie that the moon was a terraforming base that created the Earth as a colony for humans. And then I think it was something like the humans from the space station had come down to Earth and their ship got damaged and they couldn't get back. And so that was just the end of all of human civilization at that moment. Something like that. Yeah. the end of all of human civilization at that moment something like that yeah so like apparently in the movie they had this great civilization that built a bunch of these these terraforming

machines that would go out and build planets that humans could colonize but the humans created an ai that thought humans were a threat and wiped them all out one group of humans escaped on one of the terraforming machines and hid the the ai went and destroyed all of the other bases, and then this one created the Earth, and then somehow they got detached from the space station, landed on Earth, and they're looking up at it being like, there's all of the knowledge of everything our race has created, and we have no way to get to it.

So they tell stories to their kids, but after 100 years, they're cavemen with fires and sticks. It's like the mud flood. It's possible all over. It's like the mud flood. They had all this technology, and It only takes a hundred years Or something Oh man I think that's what happened

With Atlantis When that flood covered They were storing it in the capital And they were hoarding it In the capital When it got flooded It was all Most of it

I mean if you had a hard drive With all the information In the world In a hundred years That thing would literally Disintegrate Yeah well I mean buried underground

But even if it wasn't buried It's just like the elements Right Destroy it What if Noah's Ark is real And the actual story was there was a great civilization, there was Atlantis, and a flood wiped it out and destroyed all of civilization, a massive flood.

And the reason why I think it's mud is because after floods, the sediment sets and it leaves behind thick mud. And that was like 12,000 years ago or something. Yeah. Yeah, i think that is what that's the evidence from the young and there was a podcast 12 000 years ago and they were talking about the same stuff and there was this dude named noah and he was like guys the flood is gonna happen i'm building a boat and they're like you're crazy i believe it was two

floods too which is interesting there was 800 years apart because we're in this torrid meteor stream and if something happened to the earth's magnetic field these meteors i don't know if it did or not but some meteors fell so we're in the meteor stream right and if something happened to the Earth's magnetic field, these meteors, I don't know if it did or not, but some meteors fell. So we're in the meteor stream right now, and people are concerned, like, you know, of the potential of another cataclysm like that. I mean, it's only a matter of time before something happens. My question is, how long do you think it would take

to terraform Mars? Do you guys think about it much? I think about it a lot. It would take, well, I mean, you'd have... A thousand years? Yeah, I mean, it doesn't have the same kind of mass as the Earth does, right? Like, you have significantly less gravity, A thousand years? Yeah, I mean, it doesn't have the same kind of mass as the Earth does, right?

Like, you have significantly less gravity, and that's part of why Mars doesn't have a thick mass. I mean, what's the capacity of the largest rocket that could get to Mars? And doesn't it take nine years? Starship. No, no, no, no, no, no. Like two or something like that. Two years. Okay, so it takes two years to get to Mars. Like, you know Assuming you need cement

to build stuff, how much cement can you get in one go? If I understand correctly, Musk is planning on sending at the end of next year, he's planning on sending Starship. Hopefully, he's hoping for Starship and a bunch of Optimus robots that have AI so that way they're not

reliant on commands from Earth because it's like a four minute delay between the earth and uh mars so he's gonna and one of the other things that he said is he there's got to be processes that can be utilized on mars because moving things like moving machinery and stuff to make machinery is one thing but like moving materials yeah like how do you get the materials well moving it from earth to there is a real pain in the yeah that's what i'm saying he Machinery is one thing, but moving materials. Yeah. How do you get the materials? Well, moving it from Earth to there is a real pain in the butt. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

He was talking about... Forever. I think he was talking about... Actually, I'm not. I don't know. Mining? Setting up a mining facility or something? I don't know exactly what it was.

Are there trees? No, he was saying the processes have to be on Mars. Yeah. So I don't know if he was talking about using nuclear or what the deal was. I mean, that's the thing. We use all the resources that are on Earth. So if they have limited resources there, that means we need to get them from here

or you have to, assuming it's even possible, to plant trees on Mars. You're like, how long is that? No, I mean, they're going to, when it comes to like food and stuff like that, we'll obviously bring it and you'll be doing stuff first in like biodomes.

So like the biodome they did here on Earth, that's the be doing stuff first in like biodomes so like the biodome they did here on earth that's the first thing it'd be biodomes and underground and then seed bombing which is where they'll retrofit planes or drones or something to drop like literally billions of seeds per day thousands of years it'd be a thousand years before you could do that on the surface the thing about time is is it's motion. So if you do things faster, it takes less time. If you look at like the boring... Yes, Ian, if you do things faster, it takes less time.

It might take you, if you have an hour of work to do, if you think, if you read it twice as fast, it only takes you a half hour. It takes two years to get there. It's the same with erosion. That's right. And this is the advice I usually give people when they say, hey, I'm coming over. I'm an hour away. I say, if you go 120 miles an hour, you'll be here in a half an hour.

And if you have two drones instead of one, it's going to take 50% of the time. You're not going to be doing any kind of planting on Mars for a long time. But the reason that he bought the Boring Company. Assuming that it's even possible. Yeah, exactly. But right now, it's not at all. Nothing's going to grow on the Martian soil. Currently, nothing grows there.

But the reason that he bought the Boring Company and started the Boring Company is because he wants to be able to build things underground. The point is because there is radiation that you have to worry about on Mars. It doesn't have the same magnetosphere, so it gets way more cosmic radiation. I do not, after this conversation, I do not want to live on Mars. I don't want to live on Mars. Maybe we'll be planting fungus then underground. I really do not want to live on Mars. Because they always say mushrooms will save the world.

A lot of people think that. Do they say that? You can feed bees mushroom tea. Who's saying that? Paul Stamets, the leading mycologist on the planet. You can feed bees mushroom tea and help them heal from neonicotinoid pesticide poisoning and stuff. So maybe that will be our first crop is fungus underground in the tunnels but i know but

let's jump to this next story from the daily mail which is uh worse ai powered shoplifting crackdown minority report is real do you guys remember in minority report when he he steals the eyeball and then he goes into the mall and it's like hello mr chen and it shows a picture of like an asian guy yeah it's scanned his eye remember demolition man where he takes out the guy's eyeball yeah pulls it out so you can get in that room yeah right so uh new eyes in in already in britain you're using ai technologies to scan your face determine your age and to stop you from shoplifting and doing all these other things now i know for a for a lot of people, they're going to be like, good, don't shoplift. But I don't know if people are going to be too happy to live in a world.

You know, actually, I take this back. Everyone will be very, very happy to live in this world. They will accept it in two seconds. Right now, we can sit here and be like, dude, I don't know, man. Cameras scanning your face everywhere you go. Sounds like a nightmare. Whole Foods is literally you can pay with your palm. Except right now, I don't know about what you guys do up in Canada.

I don't live in Canada. Yes, but you're a Canadian. True. Right now in the United States, every single person listening was, well, maybe not every single person listening. The overwhelming amount of people listening were born and given a government serial number. And if you went back 100 years and said, they are going to require everyone to register with a number with the government, they'd say, you're nuts. We would never do that.

That's insane. And then now it's normal. You have to do it. So when they, when they start rolling out these things, put all our numbers in a book. Remember when Amazon rolled out that store where you didn't have to do anything, you just grab whatever you want and leave. Yeah. That's the, that's the trial balloon. We're going to live in a society where you will never escape there will be no cash it will be credits and if you want things you have to get approval and people talk about how when we go digital with like um with the central bank digital currency you're gonna go into the store and you're gonna try and boop your phone it's gonna say denied you're banned for hate speech it's gonna be worse than that you're not gonna be able to walk into the store. You're going to walk up to the store and it's going to be like, I'm sorry,

Mr. Polish Chuck, your comedy was deemed offensive. You have a 24-hour suspension from the grocery store. From the grocery store? Yeah, you shouldn't talk smack about us. That's right. Yeah, I mean, that's pretty crazy. Technology exists now.

When they went to self-checkout, the first thing everybody did was self-checkout, everybody was like, oh, so everybody just steals? They were like, well, that's not good. The money they saved on employees, they just covered the cost of the thing. And now here's where it gets dystopian. There was a story where a lady

was leaving with her groceries, and she had $100 and something worth of groceries, and someone stopped her and found that there was one small item that she didn't pay for? She was Canadian. She got deported, I believe. Is that what happened? I think she was like this wrestling coach or something.

But this is where she was like, oh, it was an accident, I guess? Yeah, she goes it was an accident. I don't know if it was or was not an accident. I can't say that. But she literally, like they were saying she was going to get her visa revoked and have to go back to Canada because she got, like, she had, you know i took something from walmart so that's insane to me i don't so they've charged people with

shoplifting because they'll go to the self-checkout and intentionally not scan something but people are so dumb they'll take like a ten dollar item and a three dollar item and they'll put them together and scan the cheap one and put them both in it's like bro we can watch you doing that sure apparently like but i mean like when when you go to somewhere that actually like they you know do it the old way and they do your groceries like there's sometimes when they miss a thing or they charge you right for a thing what i'm saying is killing them if you take an item if you take an item and you run it over the scanner and it doesn't beep and you don't notice how can you charge them with shop lifting for that but they are yeah and my attitude is like dude i'm i wasn't trained or paid to work i don't know what's going on yeah

bring back the but they will arrest you and they're gonna say we don't care that's where it gets dystopian they'll send you el salvador well i don't know about that's up next oh yeah wait wait till someone's like what are you in for it's like i'm an ms-13 i took a banana i'm a gay hairdresser with yeah but people are getting arrested and many of them are saying like i don't know why i didn't scan yeah i didn't realize i'm not trained on this right in regards to this crap i i am vehemently against scanning your eyeballs to get access to things and giving your dna to corporations and things i mean if you walk through if you walk through an airport in america right now like i know a lot of this stuff right

now going through an airport is a lot of it is show with, like, them scanning your passport. Because they've already scanned your face. Like, if you think you're getting through. I scanned my face for the first time at the airport. Well, I'd scanned it recently more times than I'd like. And they got the real ID. I'm like, what is the tracking mechanism? When they take your photo at TSA, like, they go, oh, we delete your photo and you don't have to do this.

But, like, they're scanning your face, regardless when you're in the airport. I've got a repulsion to this. You can check out a society. That's the option. It makes me think of people turning into the boar again. But I won't check out. I'm going to stick with it. But the thing is, like you were saying, kids, little people, young people, whatever is the real technology of the day, they're used to it.

That's what is real. And that's what is accepted. technology of the day, they're used to it. That's what is real. And that's what is accepted. Like my social security number. I never questioned it. These kids are going to grow up. So you said you shouldn't scan your eyeballs? It is your social security number. You don't have a choice.

You don't have a choice to scan your eyeballs. When you walk in, it scans your eyeballs. When you walk up to the cash register, it scans your face. Now when you go to the airport, they take a picture of your face. You don't use plane tickets anymore. You walk up and they say, stand right there airport, they take a picture of your face. You don't use plane tickets anymore. You walk up and they say stand right there and they take a picture of you. And you like stick your ID

in a machine and then it scans your face. Yeah, and their ID's probably a formality now. They're not going to need that. They're going to say, wouldn't you rather have no security? You can just walk into the airport, walk over to the plane, board your plane and go. You'll'll always be safe with these cameras scanning your face everywhere you go we can keep the bad guys out man someone made that thing this is my smoke on planes again and i'm i'm

like i'm just law and chaos is not the same thing as good and evil if you have evil law you need corruption to stop that evil system it's not corruption neo was corruption in the matrix and that was a good thing because that matrix was a lawful evil system i i gotta i gotta stop you there neo was not the corruption in the matrix he was the purpose of the matrix well he became it no he didn't become good people who agreed with you but the matrix itself saw him as a virus that's not true yeah he was have you seen the movies i've saw they explain that there's been multiple iterations of neo he's a needed machine to help cleanse the system every every few generations i saw the first one and in the first one he was he was corrupting that system so corruption is not bad always sometimes usually it is but he wasn't as they explain in the later

movies there's a cycle of generations of humans that reject the matrix and they have to routinely purge them and so the one is born every like seven generations to lead the humans to their demise in the war so that it resets and then people are put back in the matrix and then people start getting purged from the matrix yeah it sounds like retconning this thing well they're all interrupted so allegory for trans people apparently it was actually what they said after the fact remember they did the first one they made a boatload of money then they did all the ketamine they could for a long time and then they did the second and third and they did a fourth one which was actually very patriarchal and weird so the

first movie they said was about being trans and that's why at the end it says system failure and it comes past the camera and it said see the m and the F and you go between it. And I'm like, whatever, dude. I don't believe it. So, but the first- Whatever, dude. The movie doesn't end. There's no end of the first movie. He doesn't, nobody breaks out of the matrix. The matrix isn't solved.

He just flies away. He just becomes like superhero. So the point of the story was that Neo was every seven, like every seven generations, the one was an intentional creation genetically to basically lead humans to war, which they would get destroyed in and wipe them out. However, the fourth movie they made 20 years later with Keanu Reeves was actually much more based. What's the what's the name of the female actress?

Karen Moss. Karen Moss and Keanu are in these pods in the matrix because the matrix needs, needs a matriarch and a patriarch to function properly. And if at any point there is no matrix, they said the matrix was failing after a certain number of tries because they realized you need a mother and a father. And I'm like, that was kind of based.

Yeah. It was the opposite of their original. You know more than I never saw the franchise. I always saw the first movie. So you obviously know more about it. So I'll make a bit different metaphor it's just certain systems so if you have a system that's on total lockdown it's completely impregnable and it's very evil system you need to corrupt that system to break that evil cycle and so it's the same thing with

security that's why people steal from these self-checkouts it's like a form of protest subconscious well i kind of i don't thinkouts. It's like a form of protest. Subconscious protest. Well, I kind of think they make it. I don't think it's subconscious. There's a lot of people who are not doing it subconsciously. I think it's rough. I'm sorry for you for making me do this. I think they want free stuff.

That too. I mean, that's probably what they tell themselves. When the Amazon store first opened in Seattle, I knew right away. I was like, I can easily take whatever I want from the store. Yeah. So I flew there and i did and and i called them up and explained we made it i made a video breaking it down they reached out to me and they were like how did you do this and uh i talked to them and i explained how i did it

and they went oh that's all you did and i don't know if i ever explained exactly what i did i may have but i was like i probably shouldn't explain because these things are popping up in airports now where you walk and grab stuff and walk out. Yeah. They haven't met Madison Square Garden. I was just there. It's actually insanely easy to steal from and get away with it. Yeah. I'm not going to explain how, but. You'll do it on the after show. Sign up, everybody.

Yeah, I'll do it on the after show. I don't know. I guess I'll do it on the after show and we'll explain. It's not complicated at all. And it's like magic. When you do a magic trick, people are all impressed. But the moment you tell them how it's done, they go, oh. It's like, that was actually pretty dumb. It's like, yeah, it's never as fun as you think. So taking whatever you want out of these places is insanely easy. And you'll get away with it.

I mean, stealing from, like, I live in New York City where every Walgreens, like, you know, every shampoo is locked up because you can just walk. Again, if you are so inclined, you can just walk into a CVS and just grab whatever you want and walk out. They told me the amount of money they save by not having staff. Yeah. They don't care about staff. Exactly. They balance it out and they go, yeah, we'd rather. The crime we're seeing now in all these cities, they're going out of business.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, I don't know about the CVS and stuff. I think the plan of the Democrats. So here's a hypothesis that I have. they're going out of business yeah yeah well i don't know about the cvs and stuff i i think the plan of the democrats so so here here's a hypothesis that i have i don't know that it's true or whatever trump was not supposed to win in 2016 there was supposed to be an economic downturn that was going to lead to uh angry people with low incomes but it was normalizing u.s standard of living with other parts of the world because they want you in order to globalize. You need everybody to be sort of on a level playing field, not

necessarily completely, but to a certain degree. Trump wins and he holds back that effort. So then we got covid where they said, shut the whole thing down. Yeah. And they forced the collapse like it was four years that was supposed to be slowly going downward was stopped by trump and then right when 2020 they went boom sure they just dropped well you know the last time well not the last time because there's only been one covid but it followed a crazy trade tariff dispute with china and not saying anything's going to come up and then so but and then what happens now is trump again is not supposed to win this time around. I think that the the the the plan of those in power has long been to drop the U.S. economy way down for a couple of reasons. One, there's the Thucydides trap argument that

whenever there's a rising economic power about to supplant the dominant power, war tends to break out. So to avoid this, they say kneecap the United States so that it can't wage war against China when China takes over because it's going to in like 10 years or whatever. The other idea is that drop the standard of living down in America so that it normalizes with other nations and we can have one world governance separating off basically the U.S. military apparatus is an independent international arm which can globally police or whatever. Whatever's happening now, Trump is reversing course at a million miles an hour. Yeah, I think it started in roughly, well, maybe 9-11.

But way before that, the Trans-Pacific Partnership, it has been around for a long time. The liberal economic order's plan was normalizing global economics, controlling the finances of other nations to prevent war, as they described it, just world domination. And then this whatever thing happened, it was like they were on like a 20 year plan. This is what I was listening to earlier. It's like Chase Hughes again was doing this great interview. And they were saying he thinks that they were doing a 20 year plan to really get the global governance in place. And then Trump appears this this deep nationalist fervor in the united states

to protect our way of life and they just rushed the plan in five years through the covid thing and i didn't even call it i didn't even want to call it a pandemic because it was just so disgraced the way that thing was handled um and they everyone people saw it in plain sight what they were trying to do make people say words like compelled speech they were trying to do. Make people say words like compelled speech. They were trying to make people take medicine to keep their job. And they're like, what are we being forced into? This isn't right. It doesn't feel right.

It's definitely not our American way of life. And then the people revolted. And that's where we're at right now. I mean, you say the people revolted, but most people were pretty happy to go along with it. Most, but not enough to make it. Trump needs a media play. I don't know how he does it. And I don't know if they're paying attention to it. But the decentralization of media is very,

very bad. So maybe truth social was that play didn't really work. Maybe Elon with X is that play because X actually is a pretty dominant space. But even with an X, everybody's following their own spheres of influence. This means that there's going to be people who think dinosaurs are alive and are super intelligent. There's going to be people who think that we should support Ukraine. We should support Ukraine. There's not going to be a unified, cohesive American message and culture. That was accomplished through mass media. Everybody got their news from one of three channels and they trusted it. I'm not saying it's a good thing, but it created it was right. And so then people

were largely unified. And so in it's, it's much easier to run a country when people largely agree politically with each other. Now you're going to have a flat earther show up and debate a donut earther who debates, you know, a round geocentrist. A toroid earther. There are hollow earthers. Yeah, hollow earthers. Yeah. I think earth is flat and hollow.

It's a donut. Donut earth? Oh, there's so many cases. Sounds delicious. They're actually donut earthers. Really? Yeah, probably not really, though. But there's an image that someone made about it.

They have to, like, separate themselves from the kooky flat earthers? Like, y'all are dumb. Apparently. Yep. According to, according to the laws of physics, there could be a donut-shaped planet. Oh, there we go. That's so awesome. Apparently, some people believe the Earth is shaped like a donut.

If that were true, when you stood in Africa, you'd look straight and you'd see, or you'd look up and you would see. I think that's the shape of the universe, and it's a torus wrapping around on itself. The big bang is when it goes through the middle, or a big crunch, and then it comes out the other bang is when it goes through the middle and then, or a big crunch, and then it comes out the other side as a bang

and then wraps around and crunches again. This is what Douglas Murray and Dave Smith were talking about, the decentralization of media and how you'll get, one guy will get a platform and say the earth is a donut and then he'll have 10 million views of people and all of a sudden you want to talk about power, like the power to change people's minds.

Let's talk about that. Did you guys see the Dave Smith, Douglasouglas murray debate on the first half i watched the first i think i think dave smith uh handily trounced douglas murray what say you gents man i only caught 15 or 20 minutes of it the first 20 minutes of it and it was basically douglas murray saying look i'm i don't what i don't like is people coming in saying the most ridiculous stuff the earth is a donut he didn't say that coming in saying the most ridiculous stuff. The earth is a donut. He didn't say that. I'm saying that. But ridiculous stuff. And then when people call him on it, and I'm going to call out Bill Burr for this because he went on

The View and was talking about yay Luigi. And then when they ask him about it, he's like, I'm just a comedian. Don't look at me. Dude, you went on national TV. I don't care. You can hide behind your credentials, bro. You said it. Get behind it. Now, it's the same with this. You can't just say crap and then plead like

i'm no no leave me alone i'm looking at my badge it says comedian on it david going i'm just a comedian man yeah and dave does do that dave you're one of my best friends i fucking love you man and and but that i don't like that tactic i don't like that tactic you're a human first and the things you say are responsible for that but but i the reason i disagree with that is that dave is not deflecting oh no i'm wrong now I better say I'm a comedian. Now I'm going to claim to be right. He's saying, like, the point is I am a regular person who is concerned about the things that I have seen. And you're asking me to get into the intricacies of something that is not pertinent to what the principle is.

I mean, Douglas is essentially like, you know, you don't need to have an opinion about everything, kind of, if you're not an expert. And you're like, we're literally all in the opinion business. Like, that is the business word. Like, with all due respect to Douglas Murray, because, you know, I met him recently. I like Douglas Murray. I like both. I mean, I know both of them. He said, he's like, have you ever been to the checkpoints or whatever at Gaza?

And he's like, no. And he's like, really? When was the last time you were in Israel? And Dave's like, I've never gone. He goes, really? You've never been? Never? And Dave's like, no.

Am I not allowed to talk about it now? Like, have you ever been to Nazi Germany? And then Douglas Murray, I think, makes a very, very awful point when he says, well, I mean, I make it a point not to talk about a country unless I've been there. And I'm like, come on, dude, you're convincing nobody.

Well, it's because he's British. He doesn't understand the ethos of Americans. I've never been to Afghanistan, and I'm going to complain about what the U.S. did in Afghanistan. I've never been to Iraq, and I'm going to complain. It's silly that he's like, you should go. Dave is entirely allowed to talk about Israel, Palestine, what's happening to the Palestinians

without having been there. That's silly. So the issue I largely take with Douglas Murray's position in the debate was it was very much – it was very dry, overt talking point we hear of like appeal to authority. Like if you've not been there, you can't talk. And you're not the experts. It's anybody saying whatever they want. And you don't know what you're talking about here. Whereas Dave is like, I'm a regular guy who lives in this country and is upset at what is happening in this country pertaining to our taxes are involved into the Middle East. We should not be involved in these things. I happen to agree with Dave in this regard. And I don't I think this this endless multi decade generational constantly being in a state of warfare is insane. And I think it's unfair to say to me or to anybody, because you've not traveled to these places, you shouldn't speak of them as if an average American plumber whose taxes are taken

by force to fund war in the Middle East, be it or Ukraine, Israel or otherwise, has to travel there, ask the general or any of the experts what's going on before he's allowed to say, stop taking my money to fund your wars. So I'm with Dave on this one. Yeah. And I mean, I do it like, yeah, I agree with that. And I agree with Douglaslas murray essentially he's like you know you bring on these people and to joe rogan and you're like you know they're not experts you're like i agree maybe bring on the person with an expert but again like these people will go on and talk about 500 different things this is one episode you're like how can you bring in an expert that person's like i don't want to talk about that for the whole show i want to talk about that for five minutes and then move on to something else.

It's an interesting, like, conundrum for Joe. Rogan is a podcast host because what do you do? He just wants to have people on that he's interested in. Yeah, he just wants to talk about them. And then if they start talking about one side of a view, is he now beholden to have the other guy in that he has no interest in talking to? And again, like, another thing with Douglas Murray is, you know, you're talking about, like, the israel palestine stuff or like he

was talking about ukraine a lot and he goes yeah you bring people in and they're talking like favorably about russia you're like the whole mainstream media gives you the other side of that argument about like the pro-ukraine thing i think i think this episode shows us why uh in the long term i think israel i don't know what happens to Israel, but I know that U.S. will not be supporting. He didn't tell you? Who? Maybe. We sat down and he was like, I'm worried that America is not going to give us any money anymore. The Israelis did express great gratitude for the $3.8 billion the U.S. gives them. But one of the things I explicitly said was in 10 years, support for Israel is in question. In 20 years, the U.S. is not a part of the Middle Eastern

equation. Dave Smith represents much more of the populist right. And Donald Trump is pro-Israel. But the populist right, it's not even about whether you like Israel or don't. It's that on the right, you have very anti-Israel and very i don't care about israel on the left you have i hate israel so what does that mean in 10 years as the the older folks are the ones who defend israel yeah when they die and they're not voting anymore and i mean i don't mean to be crude you're going to have a bunch of trump like libertarian-esque right-leaning individuals anti-woke saying yeah i don't want to give money to Israel. You're going to have these... Israel doesn't even need the money.

That's the crazy part. I don't even know why they give it or take it because they don't need it. It's a fraction of their GDP. It buys U.S. weapons, basically. Basically, the U.S. is giving weapons. But I mean, Israel has the money to buy the weapons. $3.8 billion is not their...

There could be an argument that it's an excuse for... Not saying that it's a good idea, but the U.S. giving the money to – giving weapons to Israel is an excuse for the United States to dump more money into weapons development. Sure. Sure. I've not heard a single good argument from the pro-Israel side, and I'm not saying this to rag on people who are pro-Israel because they're allowed to be. I have not heard a good argument as to why Americans should be using their weapons development tax dollars, whatever you want to call it,

for Israel's military. Unless America's worried that if we don't sell it to them, then Russia will. I think that's our bulwark against holding the Suez. And if Israel wasn't there, we'd have no... That's actually really great.

But all the ships right now are going around the Suez Canal anyway now... That's actually really great. Yeah, but all the ships right now are going around the Suez Canal anyway. Because of the Houthis. Yeah, because of the Houthis. So they can do it. It's inconvenient. But this explains a lot, actually. So Trump wants to control the Northwest Passage with Greenland. He just struck a deal on Panama, and this is why he's pro-Israel. They want

all of the trade canals to control global trade. That makes sense. I would say that's the best reason I've heard, but I still don't know. It's the best argument, but like that's the Suez canal is the reason why America has been backing Israel for 70 years. Right.

That's an argument. Indeed. I don't know if it's good enough reason for us to be entangled in Middle Eastern conflict. Yeah. What would happen if the power just like ebbed back and then that block, because I heard that Iran is about it. I don't know, one piece away from developing, concluding their nuclear program. Trump this Saturday, I believe, is going to be having the nuclear talks with Iran.

And I don't think people understand just how close to war with Iran we actually are. I think one of the reasons they had this meeting of. So there was a press meeting, a press conference. So Trump meets with Netanyahu. They have your traditional press gaggle. And then they had the Chatham House with influencers. And I and the and the two principal topics were the tariffs. That was the number one issue. What's the trade deal with Israel? It's going to look like and war with Iran. And largely what was talked about was war with Iran. And I think the intention of the Israelis was to try and play this game, which I don't believe works, of once they come for us, they come for you next. And this is really funny because I can't remember.

I think I know who said this, but I'm not going to reveal it to their business. They just straight up said to Netanyahu, no, they're not. I just thought that was really funny. That was a whole ocean exactly like there's a geographical component there was a bit of pushback where they were just like your backyard we're 20 000 miles away uh uh i probably shouldn't you know okay look it was dave rubin no need no no no no no um it's because it's it's up to that person i respect i respect sources if they if i'm not going to reveal what they said.

But I will say this. The Israelis conveyed that if Iran gets a nuclear weapon, the U.S. is in danger. And then it was a couple of people who just said, no, we're not. And like, that's ridiculous. We don't need to be involved in your war. And I think the general idea, it doesn't work. This game doesn't work. You doesn't work you can't be like i'm warning you phil's gonna get you you're like i'll deal with phil if phil tries to get me but

just because i'll deal with you phil you're having problems we're gonna get involved of the israeli war that that country has been at war since day one of inception it is a war country that country is war it has been put there in the middle of a conflict right after a comp it's just that's that's all i told you guys before the show yesterday i like ben not you know he seems pretty cool intelligent charismatic but he's a born in a war a wartime culture and he's a warrior so all ben he fought ben yeah benny benny and then so he knows how to fight and kill that's his job that's what he's done his whole life. What I can tell you is the annoying thing about the Israel derangement syndrome people who are, one, they're showing a fake clip of us on the show where I was saying that it doesn't matter who fired the shot in the false flag in the context of they won as soon as they engage in the false flag because their supporters are never going to believe it. Like you could say the Gulf of Tonkin for a long time was believed to be a false flag. But this was a conspiracy theory.

And people were pro-American, like, get out of here with that nonsense. And then in like 2013 or whatever, like, oh, actually, yeah, we fake that whole thing. Yeah. So the people who perpetrated are going to use it and they're going to they're going to get away with it. But the frustrating thing is the the meaning that happens is largely about tariffs and war with Iran. I end up bringing up the gist of the story is this. Israel seems to be ignorant of the shifting landscape in the United States among young people towards sentiment to Israel, which is, as I mentioned on the right, either we don't

want to be involved in Israel or we don't like Israel. And on the left, we don't like Israel. So this idea that the Israelis wanted to communicate to prominent individuals, Iran's going to get a nuclear weapon and you're all in danger, was meaningless. Because in 10 years, we're not involved. And in 20 years, who cares about Iran? We're not going to be a part of it. Also, America can deal with Iran if need be. Well, certainly there are war hawks that want to go to war with Iran. There're not going to be a part of... Also, Americans can deal with Iran if need be. Well, certainly, there are war hawks that want to go to war with Iran. There were people in Trump's sphere that want this.

It's been since the 79 overthrow of the Shah. They overthrew a democratically elected Iranian president. He was the Shah of Iran. And then they installed the Ayatollah, this religious zealot. And now they're like, hey, it's a bad guy. We have to attack them now. You're like, we set it up. The annoying thing is that in trying to understand what the intentions of the Israelis are and what's going to happen, you have people online who just like they're.

This is why I was saying it's funny because they're saying I claimed Nick Funtas was an op by the Israelis when I said or the idea is it's more likely, and I'm being somewhat tongue-in-cheek, because when people like this go online and just say something like, they tweet, you're a Jew, so you don't count, or I won't listen to you. I'm like, okay, you're helping Israel. You're making regular Americans be like, I don't want to be a party to whatever that is.

But Dave Smith, I praise all the time because he is the, he's funny, charismatic, calm, and collected, and explains from a rational American point of view why we don't want to be involved in funding these things. I've mixed feelings about this now. OK, I am very much into global peace. But at the same time, I understand that if you just sit defensively and wait, things

can come at you from that's what ballistics are. OK, so that's where we're going to have a beautiful Iron Dome. That's true. And that's why we have our to have a beautiful Iron Dome. That's true. And that's why we have our fingers away from our homeland so that we're not letting anyone near us. So we have this area protected, essentially. If we just let it go and Israel were to fall and then the Suez is shut down and controlled by China,

potentially Chinese, Russian, Iranian coalition or whatever. Yeah. That might not... But again, you just have to go around. You just have to go around Africa. It's not easy to do. But it's what they're doing right now. Because of the Houthis.

Because of the Houthis. Trump bombs the Houthis and gives us back our canal. But he's bombing... Even with bombing the Houthis, they're still going... I saw a graph or whatever in the best day, and they all are currently just going around. We got to go to chats over here. But Cam Higby was on the show the other day, and he's very pro-Israel. He says he's a raging Zionist.

And he was arguing that we should fund Israel's military because they test our weapons or whatever. And I'm like, that's not a good argument. We can test our weapons. And he's like, yeah, but they're not battle tested. And I'm like, OK, I just don't see that as a good argument. Yeah, that's not a good argument. Suez Canal is interesting because losing control of that seeds control to the BRICS nations and that's going to create a multipolar world. That being said, although that is an argument,

I don't think it's a strong enough argument to justify the U.S. getting involved in more ground wars in the Middle East. Oh God, you know the Russians, they want that the Bosphorus Strait, they want to go through Turkey and from the, you know, and now they want this. I'm sure for them to think of the Suez Canal. to think of sure everybody wants it and it's not like we can't share the suez canal with the rush of course we can i don't know this obsessive military control thing i just just a big game of risk god yeah trump's not going to back down from this and that's i think that's exactly why trump is pro-israel because he wants i mean every president's pro-israel exactly but i think the suez is principally why i think that's why Greenland and Panama are

so important to Trump. Canada. And this one's the Arctic. Sure. Well, no, he wants the Arctic to defend against China and Russia. So this is going to be interesting because Trump is not going to back down and let the BRICS nations take over. He is strangling China right now, which everybody likes.

But should the U.S. back? This is this is the challenge we have. One, cutting off funding to Israel overnight creates Afghanistan times 100. So whatever we do when we're backing away from funding, it should be a tapering off of. I mean, maybe if they I don't even know if I agree with like maybe if America backs off, people are like, oh, well, they don't have the Americans to defend them against our aggression. And maybe but like they don't need the money like there. I believe their economy is like 600 billion. Like what's four billion dollars look israel has the capability to take out iran's nuclear program if

they want sure like they did it they did i mean the i guess the issue for israel is you're like there's all these hostile countries surrounding them and in that sense i mean not only that but like look the people did in the context of iran the conversation is almost always Israel. And people forget the fact that Iran is Shia and Saudi Arabia is Sunni. And Saudi Arabia doesn't want Iran to have a nuclear weapon any more than Israel does. The whole of the Middle East doesn't want Iran to have nuclear weapons. But that's a different conversation. Final thoughts on this is I think people should listen to Dave.

We are really – we are dangerously close to war with Iran on the precipice as he described it. And the real takeaway, this is why these people are scumbags. Kim Iverson, you're a scumbag. She is. She's lying. Do it. I mean, I made a 40-minute video breaking down how she just made a bunch of shit up.

I saw that. And the problem is, the Israelis called a bunch of a meeting of a bunch of prominent influencers. Many of them were very pro-Israel. A lot of people were pushing back. And the intent was to be like war with Iran is coming and you have to be on our side. And it was it was some people were very diehard. They were like, yes, the bond between our nations. Some people were like, that's that's ludicrous. The American people do not want to be entangled in these wars. But the important takeaway from this is the Israelis are trying to push a narrative right now of America get prepared for war, which means our reaction needs to be start calling your members of Congress and being like, we will not be party to war with Iran. This is not a desert country like Afghanistan, and it is not some is not a desert country like iraq either it is a mountainous highly

developed nation with surface-to-air missiles that will make our air superiority very difficult this will be a substantial modern war campaign which we cannot and should not be involved in it is not going to be like oh we're at war with afghanistan you never think twice about it yeah it is going to be something you see in the news every day it is going to be probably unwinnable it's probably one of those things where they can kind of last this over time and ignites a war with the rest of the brics nations yeah so imagine the blowback for 30 40 50 years what the people from iran would want to do back to the united states that is not good you don't do not yeah it's it's it's the u.s is finished the u.s wins conflict through air superiority

and we don't have this in iran there was this period in trump's first term where he called off an airstrike on iran and he said it's because he didn't think that it was worth the loss of life i think the issue may actually be that the u.s may have been incapable of carrying out these strikes because iran is known for their anti-aircraft capabilities going to war with ir it's mountainous. It's not going to be this Grudus Liberators nonsense and sending troops in. It's not going to be a 20-year quagmire. It's going to be insane bloodshed on the scale, hitherto unthinkable. You think that it's your sense that the war with Iran would be not just about nuclear weapons, but would be about actually regime change?

So the nuclear weapons is attached to the regime change. There is the general idea conveyed by the Israelis is that Iran is a fundamentalist state that will not stop. They're going to keep trying to expand their influence and they want control. I felt like largely what I was being told about, like, oh, Iran is like, yeah, yeah, I get it, dude. I am not concerned about Iran. I don't care if Iran is taking Afghanistan doing these things.

I care about our weapons being handed off to Taliban and to terrorists and things like this. But if we are not involved in the Middle East, then we don't have to worry about it. Yeah. I feel like Iran's been a bogeyman for like 30 years. Yeah. Since the coup in 79. It defied the liberal economic order. And so they want control of that region.

They want to crush out Iran. Iran is capable of rejecting U.S. liberal economic order supremacy. Because they have oil. It's not just about oil. The liberal economic order was established after World War II under this premise of stopping World War III. The general idea is through the International

Monetary Fund, the Bank of International Settlements, the SWIFT payment system, you prevent war by controlling the finances of a nation. Iran told us to screw ourselves. It was 79 with the revolution. And since then, it's been a thorn in the side of the liberal economic order. That's why they wanted war the whole time. That's why they want war now. Trump, I don't think, wants war.

I think Trump is going to engage in nuclear talks because the concern is if they get a nuclear weapon, then they're going to be it's going to be impossible to deal with because now they've got extreme leverage. Yeah. And it makes it very hard to deal with militaristically, which is why the U.S. and Israel launched Stuxnet some, I think, 13 years ago to blow up Iranian nuclear centrifuges, which is an act of war, mind you. So when we when when when Dave is mentioning we're at the precipice of war, people need to understand that we've already engaged in a cyber attack which blew up a bunch of their facilities we look man i will stress this a war with with iran is not going to be like afghanistan and iraq where you hear about it in the news and there's videos happening and it's like the average person goes on with their day and it wouldn't be one country it wouldn't be iran by itself it's gonna

be more like china and russia and and Iran would be defending against it. It'd be fucking crazy. You do not do that. And there's likely going to be language. There's likely going to be conscription. And the buying power of the American person is a drop dramatically as resources are shifted into a wartime economy. Imagine the coastal cities getting bombarded. Are you kidding me?

No. Nuclear submarines all over the ocean from every country slow down slow down slow down do you are you under the impression that iran has those things no no china and russia okay so you're saying that it would expand yeah they would they would all kind of end up in the iranian hands i don't know it's not i don't i understand i'm not saying that i'm i'm looking for a war but we when trump was in office before, he struck Soleimani and it didn't lead to a wider war. If they strike the nuclear facilities, it doesn't necessitate a global world war. I could actually see China and Iran.

The fear is that they're nice with the tinderbox. Yeah, and Russia stays neutral. And then Russia's like, what will we do? This is a great conversation, so I apologize. We've got to grab chats. But I just want to say one thing. I don't think nukes on the coastline. I do think, however, if we engage in war with Iran, you will have subterfuge.

There will be bombings. There will be attacks on U.S. soil. These people may have already come to the southern border under the Biden administration. Yeah, they're just waiting. So let's grab some of your chats, guys. Thanks, Biden. Yeah, no joke. Superpooper says, gonna watch this

while pooping the whole time. Ooh, what a release. A two-hour poop? Oh, he says, gonna watch this while pooping the whole time on God. I don't know what that means. Does he mean like on God, like for real? Or does he mean like on God, like pooping on God, like

on God for real? Insulting things about God. Full two hours. All right. Pinochet says helicopter tourism is going to take a hit now. Oh, that's. Too soon, Pinochet. You know, I spoke kind of briefly about the Chilean revolution when Pinochet came into power.

And I think I may have butchered it. I apologize ahead of time. We don't have time to get into it right now, but. All right, here we go. Shane H. Wilder says, I find it funny that, quote, journalists ignore Tim's post when it doesn't fit their narrative of him while focusing on his posts when he is trolling. Guess that's what's happening when their IQ is putting. Indeed, this is. I mean, look, guys.

You know, what are you going to do? I know that you can't convey complex thought on X. So I tweeted on I posted on X. The Second Amendment never was never intended to protect it to protect. I forgot what I said, but it's basically knives, swords and bayonets were never considered arms by anyone ever. Only 18th century muzzle loaded muskets were considered arms. And someone actually tried doing a community note saying I was wrong.

And someone responded being like, dude, the saying only 18th century muzzleloaded muskets is arms clearly identifies this as a joke making fun of gun control. Yeah. My favorite thing about it is it was a commentary on gun-free zones and gun control, only tangentially related to the Texas story. But my point was largely that the right to keep and bear arms encompasses everything. And I got a mixture of, I can't believe Tim is anti-2A. Tim is wrong.

Muzzle-loaded muskets aren't the only thing protected. And screw you, Tim, you were defending a murderer. It's just like... You're not allowed to have fun on X. You're not allowed to have... It's like fishing. No fun zone. And every once in a while you fish up a boot, and you're like... You're not allowed to have fun on X. You're not allowed to have... It's like fishing. No fun zone. And every once in a while,

you fish up a boot, and you're like, that's like when it's an AI bot. Well, I mean, to be honest, I do it because it's trolling. It's funny. Yeah, you caught a boot. That's what they call fishing.

No, it's trawling. Right now, we have this story with Carmelo Anthony that is extremely contentious, and everybody's very angry. Conservatives called for the death penalty on a 17-year-old kid, Carmelo Anthony, over this. They conservatives called for the death penalty on a 17 year old kid, Carmelo Anthony, over this.

They've called for boycotting, give, send, go for allowing a fundraiser. Sorry, that's nuts. I don't care. By all means, Carmelo Anthony is likely going to get convicted. He'll probably take a plea bargain because he did not have justification for the use of force escalation that he did. We'll probably figure out what happened with the story. But it's crazy to me that there are people who are like,

boycott, give, send, go, because they're allowing him to raise money. I'm like, what is a legal defense? He's going to hire a lawyer. They tried to take it away. This is why we don't like GoFundMe. And the people calling for the death penalty on this? That's crazy.

They're arguing that, so these people are all wrong. Even, who is it? Branca? Am I getting his name wrong? Oh, Andrew Branca? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think he was saying this.

I watched some of it, that it's not justified self-defense because the escalation of forces is not commensurate. However, they will make the argument because Carmelo was like 5'7", 5'6", 130 pounds, and there were four or five guys around him. He's going to argue he was scared of the group, not just the single individual. Isn't he a track athlete? I don't know. Run away. But it's crazy how hyper-tribal this is where there are people actually arguing. It's first-degree murder because the school banned weapons.

And I'm like, bro, come on. The right to keep it bare arms includes all weapons and gun and weapon free zones are nuts. If you want to argue you can't escalate force. I agree. If you want to argue that Democrats can vote weapon bans wherever they want and you're for them now, I'm like, that's nuts. I mean, they have gun free zones all over Times Square. That's stupid. Yeah, they don't work. That's dumb. Yeah, right. There was that Trend Day Aragua guy who was shooting people in Times Square. Yeah.

Stupid. He didn't see the sign, though. But that's the point about this case, too. It's like... Signs are in English, not Spanish. The guy brought a knife

to a school where knives were banned. Yeah. Why did the sign work? Yeah, I know. That's why I'm like, this is dumb. I don't care.

And I just think it's insane that people are saying he shouldn't be able to have a give-send-go. But also... Well well they're going to turn it around for you know the conservatives

similar pet cause and people are going to be like if give send go acquiesces here then they're going to do it for something else and give send go is a visit to back down

yeah so the other thing too is there are a lot of people intentionally lying about what happened there are a lot of prominent people who are telling the truth but there are a lot of people that are lying for one thing There are a lot of prominent people who are telling the truth, but there are a lot of people that are lying.

For one thing, people keep saying it was a tent. It was a gazebo. And I saw some prominent conservatives talking about it. Like typically the principal actors like the larger with larger followings have been honest about this. There was a thunderstorm. It was a thunderstorm. There was a tent gazebo. It's not a enclosed space it was

those pop-up gazebos yeah he sat underneath it the guys approached him and told him to get out he refused he then put his hand in his bag and says touch me and and and touch me and uh he says what he said touch me and see what happens the dude then grabbed him and then he responded with punch me and see what happens the guy then grabbed him to move him, and that's when he stabbed him. Was it like raining out of his report? It wasn't yet raining. Okay. It began raining after the stabbing.

But the police report, the general indication is that he went under the gazebo because it was about to rain. So the argument is he escalated lethal force in a situation that did not require it. Yeah, he didn't have a threat of getting killed. The argument from the other side was they put a bunch of fake news up and claimed they were bullies or something, which is also stupid. Yeah, and you're not allowed to murder your bully. That's not... But there is a self-defense claim that they're going to make. Yeah. And they're going to tell the jury this. The fact that there are people saying it's first degree murder only because the school banned the weapons. Okay, I disagree. Like, second degree, maybe. Grabbing a knife shows that he had an intent

to use lethal force at that moment. Right. And you could argue second degree murder. Violating a weapon-free zone doesn't mean you have the intent to kill. It does. I don't think it does. Not philosophically, but legally it does.

Oh, okay. Right. So they're going to argue that because you are not, it's felony murder. You are committing a felony, bringing a weapon to a school, first degree murder. Whereas in any normal circumstance, if you are like a park where weapons aren't banned, they might argue second degree, which I still think you're not going to get. This is the other thing, too, that conservatives do not are not not all conservatives.

It's like it's kind of split. Actually, there's a lot of people arguing, saying he's going to argue self-defense. Five guys walked up to him and threatened and told him. He walked up to them, though. He sat down under. So the general idea is it's about to rain. He was under a tent. They're sitting there. They say, hey, you can't be here. You need to go. He refuses. They get up. He put they tell him to leave again. He puts his hand in his bag and says, touch me and see what happens. The guy touches him. He doesn't react. They keep arguing. He then says, punch me and see what happens. That's when the dude grabs him to remove him and he stabs him with the knife. So the argument is that was that was not a justifiable use of force. What's going to be argued by the defense is that this dude is 130 pounds and like five, six or five, seven or something. So he's a small, scrawny kid, five guys or whatever approach him. I think I think it might been four. And start arguing with him and yelling at him.

He's under the tent because it's going to rain. His argument is they have no authority to remove him from bleachers just because. And they were all white? Yes, they were all white. This is going to be a big component of this. Which it already is. Yeah. So this is what's going to get argued in court.

They're going to show him and say he's small. He's frail. He was trying to stay out of the rain. When they approached him. The reason he grabbed his knife is because he was surrounded by four four larger boys who are telling him that they actually had already grabbed him. I touched him at one point. He didn't react to that initially and then said, punch me. Now, the question I have for all the conservatives is the police report says the witnesses conveyed this. So it's here. It's the police report. The witnesses conveyed that Carmelo said, punch me and see what happens. Where in the rest of that story is the context of the punch?

Why did he say that? I don't know. Maybe a guy was. I think we might get another Rodney King riot if he gets the death penalty. He's not going to the death penalty. They've already said no. He's too young. Or if he gets any sort of serious charges.

The left is going to riot for sure. Yeah. But what I think is going to come up in trial is the defense is going to argue they threatened to punch him, to which he responded, punch me and see what happens. So you need to ask yourself in the police report, why did the witnesses, these are the memorial kids, the brother of the victim, not the brother. He didn't give a statement because he was crying and everything. The friend said, Carmelo said, punch me and see what happens. In trial, the defense is going to say, why did he say that? And they're going to say because someone made a fist or because someone was going to hit him or something like that.

I don't see a scenario where a dude under a gazebo just randomly says, punch me and see what happens. Maybe, maybe. Either way, they're going to make the arguments. And I think it won't go to trial. I think they're going to take a plea bargain. Granted, because they've raised like 300 grand, they might end up seeing like Ben Crump or whatever get involved. And it might go BLM versus anti-BLM and get nuts. Oh, that's going to be a big part of it. Yeah. But anyway, people are tribalists and tribalism is dumb.

And I don't care what tribalists think. So be mad. Uh, if you, if you can't withstand disagreements, then, uh, I don't know what you were watching my show from the first place, but I do appreciate y'all watching the show. Uh, much respect to those who do disagree and do continue to watch because you know, that's what we're trying to do. Cause I'm going to disagree. Anyway, sorry to interrupt. That was not even a good thing to say. I've just been enjoying this, man. I wish we had more super chats. Yeah. Well, well we do i'm letting you know ahead of time i'm going to disagree you just don't know when all right all right kate c aka snake uh plush kitten says the vietnam draft put one out of

eight draftees into the marine corps interesting jason diaz says during world war ii voluntary enlistment for the u.s army was banned on on December 5th, 1942 by Executive Order 9279. Whoa. Too many people. What? You know, I'll say this, too. We got to go to Uncensored Show. But I'll say one last thing.

The U.S. had an office of censorship during World War II. And people like to say never in history have those who have enforced censorship been the good guys. And it's like the U.S. had an office of censorship in World War II, where we're the good guys or the bad guys. We're the good guys. And we had Tiffany Cianci on before. And with all due respect, because she's great, but she was wrong when she said the First Amendment was made the first explicitly because it's the most important one. That is not correct. The First Amendment originally was, and I said this on the show, was salaries of Congress, I think, or apportionment. And the first, actually

was the third of the 17. They whittled it down to 10. She then said when they chose the first, it was explicitly stated. It was not stated. This was never stated. The Founding Fathers did not say they chose the first because it was most important. The Founding Fathers banned blasphemy. We're going to go to the Uncensored Call and Show, my friends, over at rumble.com slash timcast. So was never stated. The Founding Fathers did not say they chose the first because it was most important. The Founding Fathers banned blasphemy. Yeah. We're going to go to the Uncensored Call-In Show, my friends, over at rumble.com

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