Timcast IRL - HIJACK! Terror Attack Thwarted, Pilot ATTACKED Over Saudi Arabia w/ Lt. Governor Micah Beckwith

Episode Date: October 1, 2026

On this episode Tim & the crew are joined by Lt Governor of Indiana, Micah Beckwith, to discuss An attempted hijacking & terror attack on a flight to Israel Fox News' views in the demo collapsing Amer...icans embracing populism A judge blocking Mamdani's tax targeting the rich Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere) | https://www.shoutout.fans/timpool Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) | https://allthatremains.komi.io/ Tate @realTateBrown (everywhere) Producer: Carter @carterbanks (X) |  @trashhouserecords  (YT) https://carterbanks.komi.io Guest:  Micah Beckwith @MicahBeckwith (X) Micah Beckwith is the lieutenant governor of Indiana, serving alongside Gov. Mike Braun since 2025. A Republican, he previously worked as a pastor, small-business owner and conservative political organizer.

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Starting point is 00:00:04 A terror attack thwarted, at least that's what everyone thinks right now. We have been getting conflicting reports all day. Initial reporting was that a pilot attacked a co-pilot. I guess they're both just pilots, so who's the co-pilot? Then Fox News said, no, the co-pilot was attacked or attacked the pilot. Two pilots. One guy tried diving the plane down. A fight breaks out.
Starting point is 00:00:28 There's a stabbing. Apparently the guy who got stabbed, kicks the latch, busts the door open, and allowing people to get in and regain control of this flight. It was en route to Tel Aviv landing in Saudi Arabia. The story is absolutely crazy with new information breaking all day and conspiracy theories. So we're going to talk about this. This is the big, big news. Of course, we have a bunch of other little bitty news.
Starting point is 00:00:51 There's this funny thing happening with America.gov, that new AI. And a lot of people are like, it's broken. It's going crazy. They found an Easter egg, a Minecraft reference, and people think it's going crazy. we'll talk about that. And a bunch of smaller stories, but of course, the midterms are a month away. We got big questions about what is going to be happening. So my friends, smash the like button, share the show, and all that good stuff.
Starting point is 00:01:17 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more, we got Micah Beckwith. What's up, Tim? How are you doing? I'm doing. I'm doing. This is awesome. You guys, you just taking me back to the days I loved in college, man. You guys have this whole place decked out.
Starting point is 00:01:33 I'm like, he shows up. There's guitars. I was going to say, man. I was like, geez, this is work? Yeah, let's go. The skate park and everything. Well, so who are you? What do you do?
Starting point is 00:01:40 Yeah. Well, I'm the lieutenant governor of state of Indiana. I'm just kind of a normal guy. I mean, I got in the politics. I hated seeing kind of what was happening in America. I got a pastoral background, music background, but was working with students, saw government policies and public schools, just taking kids down a path that I just didn't, I knew it wasn't true. And objective truth is under attack.
Starting point is 00:02:01 And I said, well, listen, I'm going to jump in the fight. We're going to make sure that we stand for what's right and true and not care who knows it. So I come out unapologetically. Considering you're such a man of good moral standing, will you apologize for stealing my football team? No, absolutely not. Because Indiana is better than Illinois, so do better Illinois. No, I actually, I agree. I said it's poor of the show.
Starting point is 00:02:22 I was like, my hat's off to Indiana. They did everything they could for a great football team. Doing really well. And Illinois and Chicago dropped the ball, and it's their fault. So I say congratulations. You got a great team now. Thank you. Well, and you know what?
Starting point is 00:02:34 Once we're done with that, then we're going to go down to Cincinnati, take the bangles and bring them over. And then once we're done with that, we're going to rename Lake Michigan to Lake Indiana. And then our rain and we'll be complete. But in all seriousness, I think this shows that Indiana's priorities are better than Illinois's. Yeah, yeah. Look, a bunch of my buddies here, we're all from Chicago. We're all pissed off.
Starting point is 00:02:55 And we're like, Indiana's taking the cake. Totally. They're doing better. Well, listen, Illinois spent $2 billion. on services for illegal immigrants over the last year. Think about that for a second. We offered the Chicago Bears a $2 billion stadium. There it is right there.
Starting point is 00:03:12 So if you wouldn't be spending all your money on people that shouldn't be here and clamped down on immigration like Indiana has done, you'd be fine. You'd have money to get the Bears a stadium and continue to invest in your city. But because you're stupid and you do all this leftist progressive policies, then, you know, okay, Indiana will be your Huckleberry. We'll take that. This is a bigger picture here, too. I'm trying to explain some of my friends.
Starting point is 00:03:36 They're like, I don't understand how the state and the city could allow. You know, it's one thing if the Bears go to Arlington Heights. Yeah. It's the Chicago land area, so we all kind of roll our eyes. But how could the state lose the Bears? And I said, because the voters in the state no longer care about its traditions. Could you imagine in 1990 if they were like, the Bears need money? Oh, dude.
Starting point is 00:03:58 Listen. They'd have dumped whatever dollar, all the money in the world for the bears. But when demographics change, a question is asked for all the newcomers, they call them, come into Illinois, and the politicians running for office ask a question, how many of you care about the bears? And the newcomers say, the who? So then when it comes to allocation for budget, what do they do? Migrant services, like you pointed out, instead of the traditional Chicago, the Illinois team
Starting point is 00:04:25 that is iconic and has the bears that everybody. knows. So I don't want to rant too much. We'll talk about it. Real quick on that, can I just say last thing? This is multiculturalism and what it does. It destroys nations. It destroys cultures because when you bring in all the other cultures of the world, you lose the culture and the heritage of what made you great to begin with. That's why nobody cares about the bears because multiculturalism has pushed the culture of what made Chicago a great city and Illinois, a great state. It pushed it out. It's really that simple. We've used this analogy on the show quite a bit where it's like, you got 100 people living in a town. They all come together to build a baseball field
Starting point is 00:04:57 and they take care of it, that you then bring in 101 Haitian migrants. And I say this with all due respect for legal migrants, they're not going to vote for what you built and what you love or what your grandfather, grandfather built for you because they're just like, well, our interests are not aligned with that. So 101 vote against you and say, we don't want to allocate money. We want health care services for immigrants. And then your baseball field is gone or it goes to Indiana. We're going to talk about this.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Of course, we've got a lot more to talk about, especially with the midterms coming up and how the stuff's going to play out. The boys are hanging out. Yeah, what's going on, everyone? Yeah, you guys, are very fortunate to be of Illinois, like, literally right there. So you can just be like, I don't know, like, look what they're doing. Hey, we do that a lot, actually. Just go look. It's right there. Do the same thing in New Hampshire, just like,
Starting point is 00:05:41 Massachusetts, and people are like, yeah, you're right, you know. My parents are from Chicago. You know, West Virginia's got Maryland and Virginia right there, you know what I mean? A lot of case studies. There's a lot of red states next to blue states, to put it simply. People flying away. Yeah. Well, yeah, because if you're, like, in Arkansas, they're like, oh.
Starting point is 00:06:00 Like, we got some bad cities in Arkansas. Oh, I mean, Little Rock's not doing great. But yeah, what's up, everybody? I'm Phil Carter. What's up, everyone? Pump to get into it. Before we do, before we do, we get a great sponsor, it is keet.io. Guys, download apps that aren't tracking you and stealing all your stuff.
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Starting point is 00:08:14 Don't forget to also smash that like button. Share the show with everyone, you know, as I already mentioned, let's get to the news. We got this from the BBC. What we know about the stabbing on the fly, Dubai flight to Israel. The quick news is that a flight from Dubai to Israel, the pilots were fighting, guy gets stabbed, one pilot kicks open the lock, door flies open, passengers go in, there's backup pilots. They take over. Crew members are seriously injured, stabbed. They divert this to Saudi Arabia. It's believed to have been an attempted terror attack. Some are hyping it up like it could have been a 9-11 where they were going to crash this plane and hurt a bunch of civilians. We don't know exactly but we do have new information.
Starting point is 00:08:55 We have names here on the stabbed pilot. There are, of course, conspiracy theories running rampant. But that's the quick, just let's give you guys the quick updates here. They say the stabbed pilot identified as Indian National Captain Smith, Mach Jahar, as that you said? Probably pronouncing it wrong. Was taken the hospital to the flight landed and later called a hero by the Israeli prime minister.
Starting point is 00:09:18 Israeli defense minister, Israel Katz, is called the incident an attempted jihadist terror attack. The BBC is yet to receive official statements from police, emergency services, or investigators regarding any motive. This is Flight Dubai's FZ-1073 took off from Dubai International Airport in the United Arab Emirates en route to Ben-Gurian Airport in Israel. It was carrying 150 people, almost all the passengers were Israeli. Data says that it made a rapid descent dropping more than 17,000 feet in two minutes. A minute later, the plane said on an emergency code. It diverts, starts to climb back up. We know that there were two pilots in the back.
Starting point is 00:09:56 I think they were British. One guy was British. We're not entirely sure. So there are a lot of conspiracy theories. Some were saying they believe it may have been, they think it was an attempted false flag because, you know, hey, the internet's going to do what the internet does. But either way, considering where we are with the state of the Iran war, I think it's fair to point out.
Starting point is 00:10:16 Well, I'm not saying it's definitive correlation. Reporting over the past few days has been that Iran is, is. crumbling. They are losing control of the straight of Hormuz, and they're being worn down. Surprise, surprise, at their weakest, after a long drawn-out war and wiping out of much of their leadership, you get this attempted terror attack. We don't know for sure. Maybe, maybe not. There's been some speculation that this guy maybe was just suicidal and said, I'm going to take everybody down with me. But either way, we're lucky that it was stopped. And it's a crazy story. The pilot who got stabbed kicked the lock so the door could open. And if he did not do that,
Starting point is 00:10:56 nobody was getting in that cockpit to stop this plane. That's crazy. Yeah, the motivation is unclear, obviously, but we know that the perpetrator was an Omani national. Um, Oman, obviously, good relations with Iran. We kind of use them as a mediator. They mediated the first round of talks, think last year, actually. And then they were mediating all the discussions in the lead up to the war. So again, it's impossible, like, without any explicit, you know, like, oh, I wrote down why I'm going to do this or whatever. It seems unlikely that it was, like, topped down from the IRGC.
Starting point is 00:11:30 That just doesn't, this doesn't seem like something that they would do, especially that they would have a connection with an Omani national. It could be, I think my gut tells me it's overlapping. So, okay, Oman is real, not popular there. So it would make sense that that would be a motive for him, right? There's a literal war going on between what many people view as even between the Muslim world and Israel, obviously. And then additionally, you could probably just be mentally disturbed. Clearly, he's mentally disturbed.
Starting point is 00:12:00 We've seen in the past pilots go haywire before and try to take the plane down or attack their co-pilot. It's not the first time it's happening. I think it happened. It was a German that did this fairly recently. So I think it's kind of two things probably happening here. Suicidal pilot or mentally disturbed, whatever you want to say here. And then the context that he's Omani probably gives you a bit of motivation to want to take down a plane over Israeli airspace because he knows like, okay, if anything happens to the plane, it's going to fall down and, you know, someone's going to get hurt. Yeah, I mean, I'm not, I'm not so sure about any of the stuff that I, the kind of conspiracy theories, you know, the plane was full of Israelis.
Starting point is 00:12:38 So there is kind of the idea that the Omani guy was like, well, you know, this is my chance to hit back at Israel because there were so many Israelis on. board. Again, the pilot that actually landed the plane, I think he was, he was in Israeli as well, right? No, so the two backups, one was British, and the other one hasn't been identified yet. Okay, but they were, so they were backup pilots. Yeah, it probably wasn't in Israeli because it was fly Dubai. I doubt they would hire. So, yeah, so they had, but it's good they, obviously, it's good they had, you know, backup pilots on, on the flight because the, you know, would crash without it. But I don't, I don't see what Iran would get out of it, you know, by just, you just taking down a commercial jet.
Starting point is 00:13:21 They don't stand to gain anything. No, Iran doesn't. But in terms of the conspiracy theories, if this plane crashed and killed a bunch of Israelis, I mean, the war would dramatically escalate. Well, I mean, I don't know that the Israelis would automatically say, well, you know, this was definitely something that Iran did. If they could somehow pin it on, if there was some evidence that Iran was involved, sure. I'm just saying the conspiracy theorists are making the argument because they have theories for literally everything.
Starting point is 00:13:53 Yeah. In terms of the war, I think the simple answer is, like you were pointing out, this guy's probably sympathetic. Yeah, well, I mean, we've seen in the past, obviously not maybe necessarily pilots directly taking on the plane, but commercial jets getting shot down. There's countless examples of there's a conflict going on, a faction that's sympathetic with one of the belligerents, then shoots down a passenger jet. We saw it with Ukraine, in Ukraine, Russia, where there's a creature flying around here. It's a moth, I think it's called the moth. A creature. A creature.
Starting point is 00:14:22 A creature. Small beast. Reagan. Yeah. I don't know. It's kind of a massad. I don't know what's going on here. I mean, we saw this with the KLM, I think it was KLM flight, and they got shot down by pro-Russian.
Starting point is 00:14:36 Obviously, had nothing topped down from the Russian government. They're sympathetic with Russia. We saw this a lot during the Rhodesian Bush War. I think on two separate instances. rebels that were, you know, trying to, you know, abolish Redizure or whatever, shot down commercial jets that were flying over the airspace. But in those instances, it didn't lead to a full-blown escalation. This is a full-blown escalation.
Starting point is 00:14:59 Now, if we want to talk about a true- Aerial battle taking place in the studio. I don't know with the moth. So it's not uncommon for sympathetic elements to sympathize with the bulls. belligerent in a current conflict. Similar to what we're seeing now, it's people sympathizing with the moth. They're like, poor things are scared. No, he's got to die.
Starting point is 00:15:22 He's got to die. It's some sort of Zimbabwean nationalists. But what bugs do you sympathize with? Because I feel like a lot of people are going to be like a moth, they kind of sympathize with a little bit. Well, it's a failed butterfly. That's exactly what I was thinking. If it was a fly, they'd be like, get it. Because butterflies, I love the moths.
Starting point is 00:15:38 It's like, dude, you had one job and you couldn't do it right. Yeah. It didn't become a butter. Close, you know what I mean? Yeah, literally. So let's bring it back to IRGC. Like, they're the moths. They're the moths of this analogy.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Is that what I'm getting at? And Israel's the butterflies? Or who's, I don't know who's who. Well, no, I'd say IGC is more like a housefly. And I don't mean that in terms of their scale. I'm saying it's like people are annoyed by them. Yes, right. They're buzzing around, causing problems in the Middle East with trade and all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:16:03 But it doesn't mean I want to see my neighbor come out with a gun and start shooting at the flag. You don't want to hit it with a bazook gun necessarily. With a bazook. Yeah. Well, it's a figure of speed. you don't kill a squirrel with a bazooka. We had a member calling that. I've never heard that out.
Starting point is 00:16:16 Yeah, yeah. Is it for real? What do you think is the proper caliber to shoot a squirrel? Probably not a bazooka. Probably not a bazooka. Sure, fine. Fair enough. I'll grant you that.
Starting point is 00:16:26 I don't know. A small rifle maybe would make. 17. Yeah. Super Meg. Is it big. What's the biggest thing you can use? I love gun guys because it's like, oh, probably like a 36.
Starting point is 00:16:35 You're like, oh, yeah, dude, totally. I'm like, oh, yeah, probably six, nine, six seven. Five, five, six, six, six, five, six is almost a university. universal caliber. There you go. Okay, but for a squirrel, a BB gun is probably sufficient. That was what I was saying. You could stop.
Starting point is 00:16:48 It's sufficient. Sufficient is a rain. That is a union civil war musket. Yeah, shoot with that. Why not? Go lindy. You are not hitting anything. You're going to aim that and it's going to go sideways.
Starting point is 00:17:02 Well, the good thing about squirrels is they're not particularly afraid of humans. You can get usually within 10, 15 yards, where that might actually be there. Yeah, dude, just hold some peanuts in your hand. When it comes up, just kick it. Try shooting that with the moth. with that thing. Let's see what. Don't kick squirrels. Squirrels are fine. You know what I mean? They're so unfault out of a tree
Starting point is 00:17:18 which is the in this analogy. We'll bring it back. The squirrels are Sweden in this analogy, right? They're fine. Stay in your lane. Right. Nobody ever really cares about them. Yeah, snap together. And Ukraine would be like a cow. It's like, why? Ukraine has the most farmland, the most
Starting point is 00:17:36 terrible farmland in Europe. There you go. So it's this big animal. Hey, they're tough. It's a lot of meat and everybody wants it. That's right. And then the Filipinos are like puppies where it's like they're cute, kind of charming, kind of innocent. They're not going to hurt anyone. And they get a little annoying. Americans marry them.
Starting point is 00:17:51 I mean, but they can get a little annoying. They might pee on your rug. And then you're like, okay, you know. This is a little too much for me. The Filipino passport is a golden passport. What was that? Filipino passport. So I'm, it's not literally.
Starting point is 00:18:05 So like the U.S. is considered a golden passport because it gets you visa and entry in all these countries. But I learned this. when I was working with a guy who was Filipino, he was Filipino American. Because Filipinos are fishermen, they basically get visa on entry to tons of countries because they're just laborers.
Starting point is 00:18:22 So they can show up basically anywhere. And like, so they can go to Iran, just walk on in. What? Yeah. Like for the United States, of course, we're barred from going to North Korea, Iran, like a bunch of these countries. Filipinos just show up and they're like, yeah, come on in.
Starting point is 00:18:36 Because they're not going to do anything. It's like they're not a threat. They're not dangerous. I guess we have tables. Does that need to be weighted on? Filipino, like, gangbangers? Do you guys know what leather neck? Like, have you heard of leathernecks?
Starting point is 00:18:48 Yeah, yeah. Because the Filipinos had knives, so they would wear leather on their necks because they were so good. Oh, my God. What basically what I mean is, like, when Filipinos come to other countries, they just work. You know, they don't really bother anybody. We don't hear stories about, like, Filipino gangbangers killing people in America or terror attacks. No, they just, they come here.
Starting point is 00:19:05 They do really well. They make a good amount of money, and they just mind their own business. Look, they should be deported if they're here illegally. Just saying. Just saying. And to piggyback on both of those points, I would say it's unlikely that this attack was a false flag because I think Israel, if they wanted to ramp the war back up, they wouldn't need to justify it to anyone.
Starting point is 00:19:21 They probably would just do it. We saw this in southern Lebanon where they sort of re-engage there. The Americans are upset about it, but it didn't matter. That directly ties into the conversation we were just- No, but I completely agree with this because with October 7th, people, I hear all these conspiracy theories. And I'm like, guys, I've followed foreign policy my whole life, okay? I was in the newsroom advice when they had teams going out during protective edge.
Starting point is 00:19:46 Israel's never needed a reason to just flatten any part of Gaza they wanted to. That's why people get mad at them because they don't. They just kind of do it whenever they want. They don't need a false flag guys. They just do it anyway. It's called mowing the law. And every few years they go in and they start taking out Hamas targets, which, of course, they're going to be under schools or media centers or whatever it might be. I'm not saying it's good.
Starting point is 00:20:07 You can complain all you want about it. I'm saying they don't, they've never needed a Kaz's belly. Yeah, they're like, okay, we need, we need an excuse to launch some missiles at Iran. Let's just like take out a fly Dubai. It's like they would just do that anyway. It's Israel. They already kind of understand that they're standing on the globe. I mean, they've spoken about this openly, that their perception on the world stage is
Starting point is 00:20:25 declined massively. So I think they're kind of in a position where they're like, we're just going to kind of do whatever we want for the, you're going to hate us anyways, essentially. And I just, I can't imagine where Israel does still, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, They still do think that the relationship with the Gulf states could still be there. They still think after this war is over that they could sort of form a sort of anti-Iran power block. That was kind of what the Abraham Accords were. So it's unlikely they, you know, risk that by staging a false flag with the Dubai.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Or if they would probably just shoot down a domestic flight or if they were to do a false flag, just do something domestic. Yeah, I mean, excuse me, I think Israel, the goal of having like, you know, a unified block against Iran is. worth putting the effort in. So the the idea of them doing things that are going to put that in jeopardy. Yeah, I don't think it would happen. And Israel's winning this ideological war, I think, because Iran keeps lashing out at their Muslim neighbors, right? I mean, so they're going after the UAE. They're going after Saudi. I mean, Iran's really turned into sort of the scourge of that region. And I don't think Israel needs to do anything to make the other nations hate Iran more because I think people are getting pissed. I mean, when you're shooting rockets at, you know, the UAE,
Starting point is 00:21:37 Iran's like lobbing them into the to their big you know public spaces. I mean that's all you got to do to isolate Iran now now the whole world is against them. So I think I think yeah to your point I think it would be really stupid for Israel to do something like this. So I don't put a whole lot of thought. The Iranians have been kind of playing off of the Gulf states where they kind of understand that the Gulf states are in many ways caught in the middle even though a lot of the well the Saudis and the Emirates were like wanting this to have the initial strike. to happen because they understand like if we bomb the Saudis, well, I haven't bombed, but if we bomb the Emirates and the Qataris, they're going to go to the Israelis and the Americans and be like,
Starting point is 00:22:17 hey, what the heck, this is supposed to be like limited strikes. Now we're getting bombed. So the Iranians kind of like have a strategy insofar as if we bomb the Gulf states, they hate us anyway, but then we can use that as leverage. So then they'll go and complain to the United States and then it turns into this whole kind of tug of war. I want to talk about the midterms. But before we. get into the hard politics of it. I want to pull up this tweet from Mark Mitchell on his pollster. Oof, Fox News views in the demo are down around 50% year over year in September. And it's an election season. We have this follow up from, give me three steps. They posted the actual data.
Starting point is 00:22:58 Boomers are consuming less slop, not good for November. So we take a look at primetime 8 to 11 p.m. 2025 to 2026, down 39 to 49% in the key demo. They're down 49 in the key demo. Total day, down 48% in the key demo. We have this post as well. Total views for the same window on Saturday, 765,000 total viewers. This is absolutely insane. It's not just Fox News.
Starting point is 00:23:32 I'm not singling out Fox News because Fox is, beating CNN and MS now. But what the happened in the last year where basically everybody just turned off the TV stopped watching everything? Because I'm going to stress this. It's not just every, to a hammer,
Starting point is 00:23:51 everything looks like an ale. And so you get these pollsters, they live in politics, and they're like, whoa, Fox News, views are down. Yeah, well, sports views are down too. Where did everybody just go? What happened? Outside. Maybe I don't,
Starting point is 00:24:04 know that that makes sense. We have phones. What happened where just abruptly over one year, 50% of people were like, I'm going to watch TV anymore. I mean, apps, videos, podcasts, whatever. Was it all fake? I mean, maybe. I suppose if you've got, you know, declining viewership and stuff across the board, multiple genres, not just news, but you're talking about sports, you're talking about everything. Maybe that everybody, maybe all these, these industries were patting the numbers and, and now you have something that reflects reality. I think the only, I've heard this from a lot of people because I've talked to, you know, we have, we have ad sales teams and stuff like that. And I'm hearing people say like, well, do you think habits just changed? And I'm like,
Starting point is 00:24:49 habits don't change in a month. Like September of last year, it just drops off and doesn't come back. And that is not a habit we've tracked in media, even watching the change in habit, you know, with the younger generation, the older generation. I don't think a bunch of boomers just died. We are expecting there to be a rapid decline, but that would be month over month. You wouldn't just see a, you wouldn't just see it go. It looks like the numbers were fake the whole time.
Starting point is 00:25:16 Yeah, yeah, I think that's probably likely as they were juicing their numbers. And I don't know, maybe some metric change. USAID was juicing the numbers for everything. Yeah, USAID combined with like maybe the, I don't know, the FTC or something, maybe demanded different metrics or something. I don't know what the internals are. but something had to, because it's not like those people who got Thanos snapped.
Starting point is 00:25:34 Well, I'll mention this. We talked about this last night briefly in the uncensored portion of the show. Obviously, anybody who watches this show knows that our concurrent viewership is down. A year ago, we were doing 67,000 concurrence live on YouTube. That sounds amazing. It's like, wow, we're the biggest prime time show on YouTube. Right now we got about 11,000. On YouTube, we got about 12,000 on Rumble.
Starting point is 00:25:57 Our views to watch time ratio has not changed. So I'm sitting here being like, how is it possible that we're doing, we do about 250K in YouTube, we do about 250K in Rumble, and then we've got between like X Facebook and the podcast, another 200,000 or whatever? How could it be that our concurrent views go way down from 60 to 15,000 in the course of a year, but we get the same viewership and the same watch time per viewer? That math makes literally no sense, unless the argument is nobody watches live and they're not. watching the show. No, that doesn't make sense either because in the show wraps, we check in the two hours a show is live. We'll get about 150,000 unique viewers and we'll get the same average
Starting point is 00:26:41 watch time that we got a year ago. Literally, it makes no sense. I'm going to have to go there, guys. USAID was faking everything, maybe so that people around the world or other countries presumed U.S. culture was dominating all forms of media. I don't know. All I know is it makes no sense in an election year that we're seeing all news go down and we're also seeing sports go down and YouTube and everything just that makes no sense to me. Yeah, I mean, I would have to know. I'd like to know, and you guys probably know this better than I would, who controls these numbers?
Starting point is 00:27:20 Like who's the the wizard behind the curtain pulling the strings that these numbers come from? Like is there an overarching authority that says, hey, these are legitimate numbers, it's just random? Is it YouTube? You got to trust YouTube? Well, who gets to? Look, I'll say everybody's lying to varying degrees because it's hard to know for sure. So you just, everybody goes with the best possibility. Yeah. So, you know, it's like, well, look, I got, you know, a million on Instagram. How many of those actually watched the video? Yeah, we don't really know. We just know that at some point, that person clicking video. Can you trust Instagram that they are being honest with that million number? Maybe that's the issue right now is that they weren't before and now they are.
Starting point is 00:28:03 They're starting to be honest. Yeah. Yeah. So there was a big story when USA AID gets shut down. Five months later, rap isn't on the Billboard Hot 100 for the first time in like 30 years. And now we've got- It stayed off too. It hasn't.
Starting point is 00:28:16 There's been a few that have popped up but not hit anywhere in the top 10 or anything like that. So the liberals come on and they go, what do you mean? Like here's a few rap songs like that clearly made the charts and you're like, yeah, of course. But it's like country is taking over. the belief is that I don't know how or if USAID was involved but something was happening behind the scenes and I think it was
Starting point is 00:28:35 psychological operations. Yeah, I agree with that. You get, so I'll give you an example when Elon Musk announced he was going to buy Twitter, what did we see? I don't know if you know the story. All the major liberal influencers lost millions of followers and the conservatives gained
Starting point is 00:28:51 millions. Now how does that make sense at all? It was very, very weird. The argument we heard was liberals are fleeing X because Elon's buying. And it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, Elon did not buy it. And the sale was blocked at the time. They were saying he wasn't going to be able to buy it. And liberals were making fun of Elon for failing to purchase Twitter.
Starting point is 00:29:11 Yet somehow we saw accounts like Jank Yugar losing insane amounts of followers. One theory was that Twitter was intentionally patting the numbers for liberals and suppressing the numbers for conservatives to make it look like liberalism was popular when it was not. Right. I couldn't agree with you more. I think we've been lied to more than we realize in the last 10 years, 15 years. And I think it's, you know, one of the best things I think the Trump administration has done thus far is gone after USAID. I mean, and people talk about the midterms, Tim. So we're talking about, I know we're saying, oh, man, this is going to be a hard year for Republicans. Maybe. But remember, the last election cycle that we had, USAID was pumping tons of money into getting Democrats elected. They don't have it. This is the first election. that they will not have that money, I think that's going to play big dividends for honesty in actually this election. So maybe it won't be quite the bloodbath
Starting point is 00:30:05 that some are saying for three bonuses. I think it's all fake. Look at this. This is from after the sale. Big accounts on the left are losing followers. Those on the right are gaining followers. The people on the left who are leaving aren't deleting their accounts.
Starting point is 00:30:19 They're just not logging in. So this just, it's all fake. I think it's all fake. I think there's some kind of conflict. Like, we know there is an elite civil war going on. Like they try to put Trump in prison. Trump's obviously at odds. We've got Jack Smith testifying saying Trump's breaking the law.
Starting point is 00:30:36 We get it. The ultra-wealthy, powerful elites in politics are all fighting each other. This, I think this is proof of it. Yeah, I agree. And listen, we have been, I praise God for President Trump because I think he's the only person that could break the machine the way he's done. Now, has he done everything perfect? No, but he has broke, he's broke the machine to where we would have still been being
Starting point is 00:30:56 lied to. We would have still seen the business as usual. It would have been rhino, GOP, weak sauce Republicans, trying to say, oh, we're standing strong. And they would have been steamrolled by all of these tech titans that have been lying to us. And I mean, listen, I think we're starting to see a little bit of honesty come back into the world around us. And I think that's a win. Because I think once the honesty happens, then I think our side starts winning.
Starting point is 00:31:21 I think the ramifications of USAID being defunded and basically, being dissolved can't be overstated. I think that you're seeing like global impact, not just here in the U.S., which I think there's great results here in the U.S., but like, I think that if you, you didn't get him, I think if you look at like South America and the elections that have been happening down there, there's a ton of countries that had been left wing for decades. And I think that the reason that they're, they're electing, you know, either centrist or right-leaning or sometimes far-right. candidates is because
Starting point is 00:31:59 it wasn't a moth by the way what was that I it wasn't a moth it was like just some goofy looking moth man I am not what is it is it entomologist yeah entomologist but yeah I think that you see South America there's a ton of countries
Starting point is 00:32:16 that have elected right wing politicians and then it is possible obviously we don't have any kind of metrics on this but it is possible that the lack of USAID money is affecting things like entertainment things like what people are, what the numbers are saying. You know, it could very well be that NGOs and stuff were paying a lot of the social media companies
Starting point is 00:32:35 or paying for to pump up ads so they could get better ad rates, you know? To the point about, you know, hip hop not being on the billboard, you know, top songs. I mean, I think culture was being shaped by radicals who controlled the USAID funds. And culture means everything. It means the entertainment, the music, the politics,
Starting point is 00:32:54 the family life, what you believe about liberalism or conservatism. I mean, so I think we've seen the breaking of the system so now we can actually, you know, the light's starting to shine in. And I think it's going to be a different season going forward. Yeah, I hope you're right. I want to believe that.
Starting point is 00:33:09 Whether or not that's going to turn into Republicans winning in the midterms, I don't know. I'm still of the opinion that the thing that really drives people to the polls in the, in the midterms, is if they're angry, they won't. Is if they're happy, they'll go in the vote. If they're not happy, they're not going to go. You know, because people still kind of look at, I mean, you have to have a really, really pissed off electorate to get people to go out and vote.
Starting point is 00:33:37 Which the left has. They hate Donald Trump. That's all they got. They hate Donald Trump. They, you know, Orange Man bad, right? That's what they do. They're pissed. They're going to go to vote because of that.
Starting point is 00:33:46 They have no, but the right, they might be mad, but they're not pissed, right? They're like, I don't like how this happened. I don't like what Republicans are doing here or the Iran War or gas is too high. or all this stuff. And it's like, okay, guys, that's great. But we have to save our nation. Yeah. Get your butts to the polls. I think there's a vocal minority of people that are really, really, really upset about the Iran war. But I think they are a very small, narrow part of the electorate. I think that the average Republican still looks at Israel. And I'm talking about people that are not super plugged in politically.
Starting point is 00:34:19 And if they're like, if they're positive, if they have a positive opinion, they're like, well, yeah, you know, they're an ally. so I guess yeah or they're indifferent. The people that are angry, they're going to be vocal. They're definitely not going to go or they might go and cast a protest vote. And I'm just hoping that those people that are really angry either, look, I can't tell you to go and vote. You know, can't tell you to vote for. I would like to see people vote for Republicans because I'd like to see Donald Trump doing more of what he's been doing. Because a lot of the things that he has been successful in passing or whatever,
Starting point is 00:34:55 they're all from executive action. There has been no significant legislation since the big beautiful bill. And I would like to see those kind of policies continue. I'd love to see Congress actually pass some bill and codify them. Because there's a lot of things that we talked about that we will start to see some kind of benefit to the United States. But these things are probably a couple years down the road because he's setting the, he's basically setting up the conditions for the U.S. to be in a stronger position, two, three, four, four, five years down the road. That's what people have to remember. It takes time to fix the chaos that four years of Biden and Democrats did to this. Not just four years. Well, yeah. I mean, I mean,
Starting point is 00:35:33 60 years. Yes, you're right. I mean, you can go all the way back. But like, think about just the border, right? Yeah. The last four years, now, we've had a border problem before Biden. But I'm going to tell you, the last four years was awful. And so to clean that mess up, I mean, it's going to take time. And so we've got to stay the course. We've got to be persistent. And if we get into this, like, you know, instant gratification sort of, you know, mindset, we're going to give it right back. back over to the left and they're going to continue to destroy us. And the people that seem to be most upset, they are looking for immediate things. Now, there are some things that they're upset about that.
Starting point is 00:36:06 They're 100% justified. There's a lot of people that are upset about the fact that nobody is being held to account for all of the COVID stuff, right? And there was a lot of absolutely atrocious behavior by the federal government surrounding COVID. There are a lot of people that are upset about a lot of the things when people were attacking Trump. There hasn't been investigations about some of the stuff. And I get that and I think they're right to be upset about that. But at the same time, that doesn't mean that you derail the entire administration. So that way, things like the border, which in my opinion is
Starting point is 00:36:40 the most important thing the U.S. is facing, so that there can't, so progress on the border and reducing the number of illegal immigrants here can be, you know, pulled back. Americans are real bad at thinking long term. We think like here and now, short term. And, and that can be one of our greatest weaknesses that we yeah look i try to i try to be sympathetic because look i go and i fill up my car you know i got i've got a tesla but i've also got a jeep and it like it costs it costs me 70 bucks for like two-thirds of a tank the other day you know and so i get it it's fundamentally because it's not a uniquely american problem i mean it is a natural function of democracy where the leader has to basically think into your time frames like it's a very unfortunate
Starting point is 00:37:25 sort of reality that we do. I mean, there's benefits of democracy, obviously. But, you know, when your global foes, don't worry about elections, you know, they're, that makes them a bit more agile, they're able to think longer term. I mean, Iran just put out a thing saying, look, go vote for the Democrats, because they know. Yeah, well. Put out a big message to the American people, go vote for the Democrats. And they, the release, actually. Yeah, they're real. They called for regime change. The release that they did could have been written by any of the libertarians out. Love it. It could have, it's literally point for point, all of the arguments that libertarians are. Well, and this is what makes the situation difficult. I mean, this is why Iran was
Starting point is 00:37:59 such a misstep because I completely agree. I mean, I was making this argument for a long time, which is, yeah, like, it's unrealistic that we're going to get like 20 million deportations in the first year or something. Yeah. Okay, we do need to see it ramping up, et cetera. But I do, I am like an agreement that, okay, yes, this does take time to sort of sort of sort of this out. I mean, just to get us back to 20, you know, 20, 20 levels of illegal immigration. It's going to take time. So what I'm getting is this is why Iran is such a misstep because when you blow up the economy or you blow up inflation and cost of living right before an election, even if people are going to the polls and they're saying, they're not saying, I'm so mad about the Iran war. Like most people aren't necessarily saying that, but it's this sort of constellation of fallout from all of the different, you know, aspects of American life that have been affected by Iran. People get really upset with the ruling party.
Starting point is 00:38:50 So we can, you know, say, oh, well, you know, stay the course. And I mean, I agree. Like, this is going to take a long time. But the reality is that's not how voters are. No, not at a democracy. So you kind of have to play ball with, like, the situation you're in. And that's why it was such a misstep to take on such a large, long foreign policy strategy, when we don't even know if we're going to, you know, hold the executive in two years.
Starting point is 00:39:12 Let's jump to this next story. So we were just discussing how Fox News Key Demo viewership is down nearly 50% year over year. in an election year. That's absolutely insane. People are largely tuning out, but it does seem strange. Now, is this translating, are we seeing something in politics? Cal she's got it at Democrat sweep 62%. Democrat House Republican Senate, 28%, which does seem possible, but is dropping.
Starting point is 00:39:40 And we've got this poll from Wall Street Journal. Americans want populist policies that defy traditional political labels. They say the top 10 policies with highest support of them. among both Democrat and Republican voters, pass a law to ban surprise medical bills, require insurance companies to cover services and medicines prescribed by doctors, cap the max of prescription drugs, cap credit card interest rates at 10%,
Starting point is 00:40:02 stop illegal immigration at the border, restrict large institutional investors from buying large numbers of single family homes, which Trump did, create a pathway to citizenship for long-term immigrants who contribute to their communities, yes, if they're here legally, cap child care costs for working families.
Starting point is 00:40:17 All of these are fairly, populists. The question is, why aren't Republicans campaigning on any of these things? Well, I mean, because it's, I mean, it goes back to the cost of living. I mean, this is, this was the Republicans bread and butter and Trump 1.0 because we had a rock star economy. I mean, even Democrats were saying, you know, you can go look at some of the polling from the first term. And even Democrats were saying they trusted the Republicans more with the economy than the Democrats. And when you don't have that, again, that is like our fastball as Republicans. You can say, this, that, or the other, but at least we're going to have, you know, a rock star economy.
Starting point is 00:40:54 If you lose that, you know, it puts you in a really difficult situation. So a lot of these candidates are going to the stump and senators to a degree, but representatives can't go up there and make these promises like, hey, we're going to cap credit card interest at 10%. That's got to come from the executive. Maybe governors have some bandwidth there. Senators have to go and defend their party's record. That's the reality of the situation. That's how people view politics now is they don't even, like, for example, in Michigan, I'm sure there's people that really like El-Said, but generally speaking, most people are just thinking, okay, that's the Democrat and that's the Republican, and I'm mad at the Republicans right now. I'm going to vote for the Democrats
Starting point is 00:41:27 for that sort of block of swing voters that still exist. So they have to go up and they have to defend the record of the last two years, and we don't supply them with the economic ammunition that they need on the stump. It's going to cause problems. So like, I agree, you know, it would be nice for Republicans to kind of come up with these out of the box or populist policies on the stump, but they understand that that's going to bite them in the butt because they're not going to be able to pass any of that. They can't even pass stuff like the Save Act, which is universally popular, actually, if you look at the polling just there. Yeah, I mean, the bill. The independents love it.
Starting point is 00:41:57 The bill that was on the bill that the Senate just voted down. All the Democrats voted against it. It had the Save Act in it, and that's the argument that Democrats are making. And this was voter ID, which is 75, 80 percent popular with the American electorate in total Democrats and Republicans. And then there was the Stop Insider trading, basically, which is, again, extremely popular with the American people. people and vote, you know, they're consistently Democrats and Republicans saying, we should stop this. And every single Democrat voted down, we voted no on this. And it was because of the voter ID, which again, is popular with the American people. It was basically politically insulated,
Starting point is 00:42:36 but they still voted it down because it was going to be popular. It would help Donald Trump at the polls. And it would cause issues for, you know, Democrats that don't want to show ID when they vote. just with those specific policy proposals, it's really rare that a politician can propose. Governors is a different ballgame because governors can actually make those promises and implement them, probably even state reps and state senators. But for senators and U.S. representatives, it's really difficult for them to run on one policy. Because typically all these policies that are on here, although people say they like them, like low salience, people are going to ultimately vote on vibes and vibes oftentimes are derivative on how well am I. doing right now. And if people feel like they've gotten poor since last year, they feel like their money's not stretching as far. They're going to get upset about that. I mean, again, we can sit here and bemoan that, but that's just how politics works. Someone like Mike Rogers is in an especially difficult situation because Michigan has uniquely high gas prices for the region. I mean, the great state of Indiana, gas is like a dollar cheaper than it is in Michigan right now.
Starting point is 00:43:39 And while, yes, a lot of those high gas prices in Michigan are attributable to the Democrat governance there, that's absolutely true. The problem is El Saeed. can go and easily blame it on the Iran War. And you kind of lose that plausible deniability when there's two factors that are causing the Michigan gas prices to drive up. So it puts Mike Rogers in a tough situation because that race is ultimately a referendum on the Trump administration. How's Indiana doing?
Starting point is 00:44:01 Good. I mean... A great new football team. Bears are coming over. I'm going to go after the Bengals here pretty soon. Wait, are you actually? No. Oh, I was going to say.
Starting point is 00:44:11 I was surprised, man. You're killing it. No, but I mean, yeah, don't tempt us, you know. No, but I say Indiana is doing. Well, now here's what we've done. So we've got good governance in Indiana. So we've got a balance budget. We've, we've had it for a long time. We've been in the black, not in the red. Like states like Michigan are struggling. They can't do what we did. We kind of see what we did with Illinois. But Michigan and Indiana, what we've done is we've, we've cut our gas tax.
Starting point is 00:44:33 We've suspended our gas tax. That took 60 cents off of the, off of the pump right there. And so we've seen, you know, huge gains. I mean, gas, you know, I filled up earlier today. Gas was like 370, 4, 380, roughly, give or take. better than most. They're just a little rough. A little high, like, but not where you go to Michigan, and it's $4.80. It's five bucks a gallon. I mean, that's when you really start, you know, hurting it.
Starting point is 00:44:57 So, but it's, again, because we can do this. Like, we can, so our governor did this a few months ago, and he's going to continue to extend that to say, hey, we're going to give relief. And listen, we're going to keep cutting taxes in Indiana. Like, right now, like, we can do better. Like, we're a great state. We've got great tax policy. It's super, super low taxes, very limited government, very low regulation. however, we can do better.
Starting point is 00:45:18 And that's always got to be the mindset of every politician is, hey, we can do better. Because a lot of times people will say, well, Indiana is good. Like, look at Illinois. Look at Michigan. We're good. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, that's fine, that we're much better than Illinois or Michigan. That's a low bar. Let's do better.
Starting point is 00:45:32 Right. And let's cut more taxes. Let's limit government anymore. Because I'm going to tell you, government's natural state of being is growth, right? It will always grow and grow and grow until somebody comes in and says, we need to cut it. And so the natural state of being for every politician has to be cut government. Where can we cut taxes? Where can we limit government?
Starting point is 00:45:52 Because if we don't do that, if we don't counter the natural state of government growth, then we will just allow this thing to grow out of control. Two big problems with government. Government programs can't fail because they're lost programs as it is. And bills never sunset, so you get laws on the books that just stay forever. That's right. With a private enterprise, you can go to business. And then you're gone.
Starting point is 00:46:12 Problem solved. But when the government says, we're going to, spend X amount of dollars here. What happens when there's a budget shortfall? What do they do? New taxes. And it just is it's an addiction that keeps getting worse. We see this in Indiana with our with our property taxes. So property taxes, we've got a lot of Republican local governments and for the most part they do a good job. The problem is they will say hey we've got to we've got to keep up with inflation in the in the economy so we're gonna we're gonna tap into more homeowners on their property taxes. So even
Starting point is 00:46:44 Republicans fall prey to this trap that in some cases, well, we're just going to, we've got to raise money and revenue, so we're just going to tax more. And they'll say, you know, we come in as a state and say, hey, we want to limit property taxes. We want to get rid of property taxes because we think it's immoral and you shouldn't have to rent your property from the government. And then you'll hear local officials, a lot of times, even, you know, local Republican officials say, hey, that's our money. And you have to remind Republicans, no, it's not. That's the taxpayer's money. That's the citizens money. It's not. It's not. not your money. Well, how are we going to pay for stuff? Oh, I'm sorry. I'm not concerned with government
Starting point is 00:47:19 paying for stuff as much as I am the homeowner or the family member or the parent paying for stuff. And so we just have to, we've got to check ourselves and never let it run out of, run away from us to say, hey, oh, government deserves to spend more, to build more. And even, oh, it'll be good. Like it'll be good for the community. And then people want to live here. Yeah, yeah. Okay, great. But just like everyone else, if you don't have, the money, you got to live in a budget. And sometimes government forgets that they have to live within a budget. Because to your point, Tim, they can just tax, you know. It's the only industry where if, you know, people buy less, you can still get more, right? Just print. It's pretty,
Starting point is 00:47:57 I mean, it's pretty nice, actually, if you're a business owner, it'd be nice to have a printing machine. But it's pretty nice if you're working for an NGO outside of D.C. And USAID is dumping money your bank account no matter what you do. No kidding. It's what made it interesting about Trump is because this works really well at the state level, but at the federal level, you just have so much gridlock. I mean, a great example is Amtrak, where Amtrak, they have like one profitable line. It's the Assella line that actually makes money, and it makes a lot of sense to have a train line there, from D.C. to, you know, Boston, you got Philly, New York, et cetera. But then you have these, you know, lines that go from, you know, New, I'm just spitballing here, but like,
Starting point is 00:48:31 New Orleans to Seattle. It's like just looting, I mean, hemorrhaging money. And any logical, you know, if it was a business, you just cut that line and bolster the Ascela line. And then when you make enough money, maybe you can try and expand to Florida or something. So whenever these fights come up in the Senate, I'm just going to pick on them. I don't know what his record is. I'm just using him as a stand-in. It's like, you know, John Barrasso in Wyoming. And we like, you know, Barrasso is whatever.
Starting point is 00:48:53 But, you know, if there's an Amtrak line running through Wyoming and they're saying we need to cut this line as not making any money, he's saying, I'm going to lose 3,000 jobs for my constituents. I can't justify that. So we're keeping that line in. So it's like, it's all built in. It makes it impossible to actually cut anything from the budget. And I mean, Doge found this out where Doge did make some cuts, but, you know, they were promising $2 trillion in cuts. And we got like, you know, I think $20 billion that you could like read on a spreadsheet. And the primary reason, it's no fault of their own that they realize this, a lot of this is approved by Congress.
Starting point is 00:49:24 And they can't justify even losing 200 jobs. Because their constituents, they're in a town hall. They're going to get raked over the coals on it. And then their opponents can use that in an attack at or put them up on stage. And it's just so at the federal level, it's all like baked in. So what I like about Trump is he kind of realized this. Trump was just like, austerity measure is probably not going to happen until we like sort this country out long term. So he's like, I'm just going to use the money to like get my agenda across.
Starting point is 00:49:49 So that's the big beautiful bill comes, you know, across everyone's desks. And you have these budget hawks come out and they're like, no, this is going to expand the budget. And Trump's like, the budget's going to get blown out anyway. Let's at least like channel the money from USA to like ice, right? Like that's kind of logical. And so I kind of like that approach where it's like, I think states like any of that's smart. It's not even austerity measures because you're just cutting like fat, like just stuff that shouldn't even be on the state budget in the first place. But on the contrary, kind of on the flip side at the federal level,
Starting point is 00:50:14 from my perspective, it feels like the Republicans constantly promise. We're going to cut the budget and then it never actually happens. Trump just is like, I don't know, maybe, but we're going to actually just reallocate this money and then put it into, you know, government programs that actually benefit American people like ice. And so it's kind of this balance, but certainly in Indiana makes sense. You know, in Indianapolis is a, is an interesting thing going on. So we have this terrible bus line called the red line, and it's not any good. It clogs up. They took a, they took a a lane of the streets and they allocated it for the bus so now traffic is worse right they're pushing everyone into this public bus line it's not it doesn't do well it doesn't make any money uh well they
Starting point is 00:50:50 they thought it would be better because it's a democrat controlled city to put in another line the red line going you know the the other direction or the one's northwest or north northeast north north north south the other one's east west and so so what but what you could find is with this bus line that's putting in you'd be able to buy every resident a new car for the same amount of money that they are spending on this bus line that's going to congest the traffic even more it's not going to be as efficient it doesn't make money these things hemorrhage money they never break they never even break even and so you know if you're a business owner you'd be looking at this and be like ah it's not really practical to put in the bus line why don't we just buy everybody in indanapolis a new car that's a lot cheaper we'll save money and people will be able to get around a lot more effectively and efficiently but yeah in government you can't do that right you'd reignite the auto industry you would
Starting point is 00:51:41 right well it's funny because you know and this is again what kind of sucks just about the situation we're in as you know in civics broadly is like you can't even try necessarily i mean i don't know what's going on in niana but like broadly you can't even try like solutions like for example in china they're having all this grid locks are like all right we'll just build high speed rail and the people that don't want to drive they can get on the rail and they get pointed to point be, well, we try it in California. The Democrats try it, to be fair. And they blow out the budget, and they don't even have a train line. It goes from like Merced to Bakersfield or something. It's like total disaster. And so it's so frustrating. So everyone just kind of throws their hands in the air.
Starting point is 00:52:14 And they're like, I guess we can't have, you know, high speed rail or anything like that. And then additionally, you know, when you do build the high speed rail, we can't even get the bums off of it because we have all these, like, we can't even enforce vagrancy laws. So you go, you know, you go to like, you know, you go like on the subway in New York, a marvel of, you know, of infrastructure. I think, It's a fantastic, I mean, it's unbelievable the New York subway. It's like the most robust metro system in the world. And there's like homeless people everywhere.
Starting point is 00:52:40 So it's like we have the problem where we can't, we can't build new infrastructure anymore. But then when we do build it, we can't even enforce like laws on the books to make it safe. So people won't even want to take the train in the first place. Let me tell you a story, young Tate. The story of a woman named Alexandria Ocasio Cortesh. So Amazon wanted to open a warehouse in New York City. And it was going to generate billions of dollars. They negotiate with the city and said, here's what we'll do.
Starting point is 00:53:06 You give us a discount on our tax bill. We'll build there. We'll end up paying you billions of dollars in tax revenue, but make it cheaper for us than anywhere else and you win our business. So the city was like, praise be, because our infrastructure is crumbling. Our trains are running down and we need the money to fix them. So protesters who don't understand math gather in the financial district in New York. AOC joins them. And AOC gives a quote, why are we giving Amazon $3 billion?
Starting point is 00:53:40 These activists genuinely believed that a tax discount was the city giving cash to Amazon and got them to shut down their build. And New York has faced a budget deficit ever since. And now, and this is news, we'll get into, actually, we'll jump to the second in a second. Zohran Mamdani is like, let's just tax everybody and then make the state. pay for it. AOC sabotaged her city and state
Starting point is 00:54:08 and now they're blaming the wealthy. Let's do this. Universal franchisement is a mistake. We got this from New York Times. Judge orders New York to scrap rollout of second home tax and start over. Staten Island judge sided with a group of homeowners who had sued the city over its introduction of the tax
Starting point is 00:54:26 dealing a blow to Mayor Zoran Mamadani. So he says what we're going to do is we're going to tax anybody who's got a second home in the Basically, go after rich people. This is insane because you've got penthouses with a lot of money. They pay it an instant amount of taxes, and they're barely there. So it's almost no footprint. A lot of these properties are in skyscrapers that are in use.
Starting point is 00:54:49 This was an insane play that would drive people out of the state. Kathy Hokel at a conference said, we've got to get these people, these rich people back from Palm Beach. They're leaving. And we've got to convince them to come back to New York. Which brings me back to the story of AOC, when Amazon wanted to build this warehouse, they said, we're going to bring something like 20 to 30,000 jobs. That's going to boost the economy.
Starting point is 00:55:13 All of those people are going to pay income tax to the city and we're going to pay property tax and corporate tax to the city as well. And AOC, because she's not very smart, and I'm not saying that to be mean, she genuinely believed when the city offered a discount on taxes to Amazon, meaning if Amazon would have owed $10 billion, they said, we will charge you only $7 billion to come to New York. Amazon said that $3 billion in savings means we still have to pay $7 billion,
Starting point is 00:55:46 but that's lower taxes than the other locations we're looking at, so we'll take the deal. AOC claims after the fact, I did nothing to do with this. It wasn't even my district. No, she went down to the protest in the financial district, where they were rallying to stop Amazon from coming in, and it helped convince Amazon it's not worth the hassle if people are protesting.
Starting point is 00:56:06 So New York didn't get the tax revenue they needed, which would be going to fix the infrastructure right now for which Zorin Mamdani says they have a budget shortfall, so we're going to tax property owners or take it from the state. They do this to themselves. Guys, go back and pull that story up about AOC and that protest. And it is fascinating to see now, something like six years on, the ramifications of her insane misunderstanding resulting in real
Starting point is 00:56:37 budget crises in New York, this is what you get with commie policy. Well, I mean, it comes down ultimately. Does the company that they're seeking to punish, do they like it or not? I mean, that's kind of what it comes down to because a similar project just took place in New York City over by a city field. It's like all chop shops around there. I'm actually kind of sad because he used to go park over there when I go to City Field and it's like always reliable parking because chop shop someone wants to get stabbed.
Starting point is 00:57:02 And they're bulldozing all of them. And New York City FC, an MLS team that's owned by Manchester City FC, it's been in the news recently because it turns out the Obie Dobby Sports Group, which owns the team was cooking the books to the tune of like a billion dollars. It's neither here nor there. Decides, we're going to build our stadium, you know, across the street from City Field. You know, tax breaks, you name it. They're leasing the property to City Football Group instead of.
Starting point is 00:57:28 allowing them to buy it, which means they're losing all the property tax revenue on it, et cetera, et cetera. Not a peep, not a peep from any of these people who derailed the Amazon thing because they like, they like, you know, the idea of having a soccer stadium there. But what's funny is the people funding it, it's a foreign investment group. It's the Abu Dhabi investment group when you go up the chain. So it's just like completely, you know, compared to Amazon where, look, I mean, I'm not going to bat for Amazon here necessarily, but at the very least they're an American company, you know. I mean, you got to at least, you know, credit where credits do,
Starting point is 00:57:58 you know, NYCFC, it's the MLS. It's not even like this age-old institution, like a baseball team. It's like a new startup league from the 90s, you know, et cetera. So it's just completely ridiculous where they pick and choose when to antagonize companies just based off of the fiber. Well, look, Tate, Tate, I pulled the story up and I have this hammer. I'd like to bash myself in the face with having to read this over and over again. I thought you're both because this was, I was looks maxing.
Starting point is 00:58:26 Yeah. I was looks maxing. you know, learned it from clavicular. AOC celebrated Amazon pulling out of New York, but the governor says it cost the city 25,000 jobs. And now we're seven years on, and
Starting point is 00:58:39 Zoran Mamdani is saying, we have a budget shortfall, and if we don't fill it, we're going to have to tax the working class. So we've got to go after people's properties. We need the state to bail us out. How about you all just blame Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez? Now I know, she goes,
Starting point is 00:58:55 it's not my district where they were doing the warehouse. No. No, but she is a national level politician with millions of followers who rallied people against Amazon and helped shut this thing down. And now they're suffering because of it. But the problem is, this is seven years ago. There's a 24-year-old in New York right now who's got their first job. They don't understand why their city is falling apart, why the L train isn't working, and they can't get from hipster Williamsburg into the city for their job. and they hear the politicians say, it's the rich people's fault. When they were 17 years old and living in the suburbs or outside of New York, they did not know this was happening.
Starting point is 00:59:37 And now these people are in the workforce and they're going to vote and they don't understand the woman they are supporting burned their future to the ground. Okay. How do you convey this to the Gen Z people who for the first time entering politics don't know this happened? Well, it's kind of a chicken and egg problem here because the 24-year-old in New York, he's accustomed to the L-Train not functioning property. Seriously, he doesn't actually remember a time when New York City had functioning infrastructure. And this is what makes decline so pernacious is because, you know, we have this idea that eventually people will snap and they'll be like, okay, we've got to fix the city. It's not how it works. People kind of get accustomed to how bad things are getting. and then young people come in who are used to that level of, you know, standard of living or whatever.
Starting point is 01:00:25 So it can only get worse. So it actually just kind of creates this downward spiral. And then New York City, because they have so much third world migration, you know, they're used to, you know, horrible infrastructure. So even a broken L train is like, you know, a miracle to them. So it just creates this like situation where there's really zero accountability for public officials because, once again, younger people accustomed to the rot, newcomers, immigrants or whatever from the third world, it's already like, this is fantastic. to where they come from. And then the people that get so pissed off because everything's falling apart, they just leave. They moved to Florida and North Carolina.
Starting point is 01:00:55 The people that you need to bounce AOC from office, all the New Yorkers that, you know, were there on 9-11, et cetera, they're all in North Carolina and Florida now, by and large. I mean, or New Jersey even. But to Tim's point about, you know, the blaming rich people, that's exactly what AOC was doing. Like the whole point of that was to stick it to Bezos, right? It was, look, he's a billionaire, he's got all this money. Amazon's such a big company. They treat their workers so bad.
Starting point is 01:01:23 All it was was just posing. It was a way for her to stand up and say, look, I'm standing up to the billionaires. We're going to do this because, you know, the billionaires, the mega corporation, Amazon is getting all this money from New York, which obviously it wasn't. New York wasn't writing a check for them. But that was the narrative and enough people believed it and made a bunch of noise
Starting point is 01:01:44 so Amazon doesn't build it there. And New York suffers because of it. This is something that happens when, the left attacks business and it happens every time you attack business. Businesses create jobs, they create opportunities, they create tax revenue. And when the left goes after businesses and goes after business owners just because they're successful or because they're good at what they do, it hurts the people that are literally they're protesting.
Starting point is 01:02:12 Those people will feel the ramifications downstream. But again, to our point earlier, we as a society don't think long enough. term and we end up voting and protesting for things that will harm the economy in the long term. Well, it's all, it's all like this entire saga was a battle between left-wing populace and right-wing populace that were dancing around the real issue here because Amazon wasn't perfect shadow boxing partner for AOC. She could say, well, this is clearly the reason why our city's falling apart. But also, you know, conservatives were also lulled into this idea that Amazon moving to town is actually going to maybe improve the city. And neither a really.
Starting point is 01:02:50 true. When you look at Queens, I lived there for four years, when you look at Queens and you look at what's actually really holding back people that are from Queens and would like to have a high standard of living that live there, it is the biggest issue is immigration. Half the city is foreign-born. So, you know, we're in a situation where the native population of the United States is declining, like in sheer numbers. Everyone knows this, or TFR went negative in the 80s. So Queens, in theory, the price should be stable or declining. Manhattan's always been, it's always going to be expensive, et cetera. We don't have tenement housing anymore, so people got to have, you know, one bedroom apartment or whatever. But Queens, it's single-family housing from basically,
Starting point is 01:03:27 once you get past Sunnyside, it's all single-family housing by and large. You have some occasional apartment blocks. So this is a place that should, as the population declines, be getting cheaper and or be an option for people commuting into Manhattan. But it continues to be exorbitantly expensive. Year after year, rent goes up, et cetera. Amazon doesn't solve that. Running Amazon out of town doesn't solve that. We're both shadowboxing in a way. The real, issue here is immigration, not keeping crime under control, entire neighborhoods in New York City are off limits for normal people because the crime's out of control. So we have all these artificial sort of these artificial dynamics that are driving the price up that we should be addressing that,
Starting point is 01:04:05 you know, immigration and crime. That is like the two things that are keeping rent highest in New York City. So that was what kind of frustrated me about the whole saga. I'm like we're kind of both dancing around the obvious here, which is, you know, Amazon doesn't really much to do with it. I mean, I agree, I think it's stupid to run him out of town. But I'm also not convinced that Amazon coming to Queens is going to be this golden bullet and solve their problems. Once again, half the city is foreign born. I mean, in the 50s and 60s, in 70s even, well, I mean, the 70s and 50s and 60s, people
Starting point is 01:04:33 born and raised in Queens, they would graduate high school and they'd be able to buy a home in Queens on a single salary. What changed? Was it like we ran out of jobs? No, it actually is little to do with economics. It has to do with the actual demographics of the place changing. It got more dangerous in certain neighborhoods, which made it off limits. You know, Jamaica Queens, Trump grew up there.
Starting point is 01:04:52 Now it's a war zone. And then additionally, all these people from the third world moved into the city. I do think there's a major cultural component to it as well. All these factors converging. You know, a lot of these lefty activists like to say that the millennials are the first generation who have it worse than the parents before them. And I'm like, yeah, except for the fact that my parents didn't have cell phones or TV. You know, it's like you rented an apartment. There was nothing in it. We have these added expenses, unfortunately, because they become necessities like a cell phone. They're not super
Starting point is 01:05:26 expensive, but now you have all these added things you have to pay for. So I think there's also, with Gen Z, they played video games when they were kids where you were gambling. Like you were talking about this the other night. You play these games with loot boxes. And now what do we see? Gen Z was programmed to chase that dopamine hit for sports spending and things like that. that we weren't we weren't giving a younger generation a message of honor loyalty and hard work we were giving a message of short-term gains gambling and goofing off yeah like with young people and this is this is a major problem that geopi has i was talking about it today on twitter if young people are underperforming and let's just say you're making the case it's entirely inherent of their generation it is a complete cultural something is derailed there's something wrong with them that's not an indictment of that generation that's an indictment of the society that raised them ultimately because of, you know, I think we could probably all around
Starting point is 01:06:20 the table say parenting has declined in quality over the last hundred years. So again, when zoomers are, you know, there's a high proportion of zoomers that are LGBT, you know, to use a PC term here, or that are socialist or something like that, you have to ask yourself, is there something just inherently wrong with this generation or perhaps there's external factors that created this environment where they're like turning into adults and they're like basically arrested developments? there's the immigration component. That's a large component. But additionally, someone left the watch at some point between the 60s and the 2010s.
Starting point is 01:06:53 Every generation got worse. Millennials are permanent children. Gen Z are worse children. I imagine Gen Alpha is going to be worse. Hopefully, Gen Alpha just goes nuts and becomes like super-based or something. But millennials are buying toys, right? Was that Toys or Russ story? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:09 Well, millennials are a weird case because millennials are the ones who grew up when the social compact still existed, they became adults, it broke down, and now they're mad. They feel like their inheritance was stolen. Where Zoomers grow up, like I was born in 01, we grew up understanding that the social compact was already broken because we were watching how millennials were operating as young adults. So we answered this dynamic thinking it's all broken anyway, and so you see a high proportion of nihilism among Zoomers. So millennials and Zoomers are slightly different dynamics. Here's the sad reality. The American Dream, I would, like, I would define the American dream as you can work hard, get a house, have a family. The idea, or like, you know, I hear from
Starting point is 01:07:51 from a lot of young people, they think the American dream is that you're going to go to college, get a good job, and you're going to like be well off. It's like, yo, Americans are all wealthy, even poor Americans. We have fat homeless people. The American dream, what it, what it meant was back in the day when, when, you know, people came from Europe, whatever, it's like, we don't have upward mobility in our country. In the United States, there's an opportunity to work hard. If you work hard, you can succeed. The sad reality is, because of this breakdown in social contract, it is still possible to get rich, but it's through dishonorable means. Not always. You know, you can make a great app that solves a problem. The old joke is make an app that can help people be lazy and you'll be a
Starting point is 01:08:30 billionaire. Right. So figure out what that is, you know, make that program. But I watched a video today, and this is a recurring trend now with AI where there will be a guy who's, I saw one where is a juggler. He juggles. Someone has stolen all of his videos and AI rendered a big tittyed woman in a bikini juggling. Reuploaded all of those videos so it looks good and they're getting millions of views and making money now doing nothing unscrupulous. They don't care to steal from this person. They're going to sell sex to people real easy to make money if you want to be an only fan's
Starting point is 01:09:04 ho. You know what I mean? Do things that go be a grifter online, lie to people. There's easy money you've made and you'll get ahead. the problem is these are the paths people are choosing. They are making their, they're, the younger generations like, I'm going to get mine, I'm going to get my bag, who cares? Well, yeah, I mean, the, the American dream, like we have to cut through all the platitudes that have been offered up over the years to sort of explain what the American dream is. The American dream fundamentally
Starting point is 01:09:29 is your quality of living is directly tied to the quality of your labor. That is fundamentally what the American dream is, as in the more intelligent you are, the better you are at your job, or the more you're able to offer society broadly, the output of that will be a standard of living that rewards you for your cunningness or your ability to work hard, et cetera. That started to break down in the last 50 years, and that is why people have felt like the American dream
Starting point is 01:09:56 has basically been robbed or broken down. Just people can't quite articulate that. But that's fundamentally what the American dream is, is that your standard of living is directly tied to the quality. I don't think that. I disagree with that. I think that the American dream is about the ability to actually own property and have, you know, have your property be yours where you can control it. Because the people that came to the United States, like, they come here because they're trying to,
Starting point is 01:10:19 or at least up until maybe the 60s, they came here because they were trying to escape governments and societies that didn't allow them to control their own destiny. Now, I don't think that the American dream is about how wealthy you are. I think it's about being able to own something and control your own destiny. That's why the fact that people don't have the ability to have one job that pays for a house and a family, that's why it has such an impact on society. When you could work one job, pay for your family, your wife could stay home to raise your kids, and you had a house that was yours. That mattered to the American people. And that, I think, honestly, is what the American dream was.
Starting point is 01:10:56 Well, that was my point is that, you know, a property should be a byproduct of, you know, that would be part of standard living. So, you know, a property, people came here or people grew up in American. expect just to get property handed to them. I mean, some people inherited it, obviously, but people understood if I put an honest day's work in and, you know, the better, you know, the better my output is, the nicer my property to be, then whatever. But people understood that ownership of property wasn't just handed to you. It was a result of working hard and or being exceptionally cunning, you know, inventing something. So I mean, I agree that property is like part of the philosophical ethos of the United States, but people tie that to like, okay, well, I worked hard
Starting point is 01:11:34 so I should have a property. That's why Zoomers are so frustrated because the ones that do work hard, I mean, I'll agree there's like obviously a lot of problems, you know, culturally with Zoomers, but Zoomers can work hard. They're not necessarily guaranteed they're ever going to own a property, especially if they're a California in the middle of nowhere. But you were to say, you can't have liberty without virtue. That's what Benjamin Rush said that, George Washington, John Adams.
Starting point is 01:11:54 And I think the American dream, we've turned it into stuff, right? That's not what the American dream is. It's not about stuff. It's not about the house that you own. It's about being able to come and live a life that it has liberty that's secured by government so I can pursue what I want to pursue. I may not get those things. And I think we told the world, if you come to America, you'll be rich.
Starting point is 01:12:18 I think that's what people assume the American dream is. It's never been about stuff. It's never been about having a nice house or a comfortable living. It's about being able to have a life where I'm free to be able to pursue what I believe God's calling me to pursue. That's what the American dream is. the reason we're failing in America is because we've kicked virtue out. So think about this.
Starting point is 01:12:38 Like, there is no virtue anymore. It's everyone does what's right in their own eyes. That's what it is. Yeah, it's, I was just going to say. So without virtue, you can't have liberty. You're going to have people saying, well, I've been wronged. And well, by who? Well, because the government's not giving me my stuff.
Starting point is 01:12:53 Okay, well, that's not virtuous to take stuff. Government doesn't give you stuff, right? That's not a virtuous thing to say. The virtuous thing to say is, no, what can I do in my own merit? What can I do on my own work ethic to go out and pursue something? And has government gotten out of my way and protecting my liberty to do that? Once you get back to the fundamental value in American history, which is we are a virtuous people, therefore we can be a free people, that's when you'll start seeing this crap like AOC saying, you know, oh, we should run Amazon out. And it's going to have negative effects if we don't have virtue.
Starting point is 01:13:25 But the standard of everyone, you know, when they enter their career, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're. looking to make their mark. There are people who hope to one day be quoted. Something they said mattered and it resonated with a generation. And right now, this is my moment. To say that quote that will be copied and pasted and shared for a millennia. I got them off. A generation of Americans will know this quote. When your economy is based upon women. showing their but holes on the internet, your country has fallen. Well, yeah, I mean, because I think this is, I think this is like, do you make that a T-shirt somewhere?
Starting point is 01:14:11 Yeah. A nation whose economy is women showing their butt holes on the internet. Four scores. Seven years ago. It's a nation that has failed. Well, I mean, that's true. Well, this ties in directly because, I mean, like, when I'm getting at standard of living, I'm not saying quantified by your net worth. What I'm saying, a standard of living is, if Phil was hitting on it,
Starting point is 01:14:28 which is part of it is like, I need to know that when I become an adult, I'm going to enter a community that I can participate in, that I'm going to be able to get married, I'm going to be able to have kids. My kids are going to grow up around people that are like them. That is all wrapped up into a general standard of living. Obviously, some of that's quantifiable through net worth, but some of that is not quantifiable. Like, is my neighborhood safe? Can I find a wife? And with Zoomers, part of the problem is what you're hitting on is, you know, for example,
Starting point is 01:14:53 sexuality has been commodified. So now the dating market is a complete disaster. And because women are, you know, flaunting themselves on the Internet, that's certainly a component of it. now zoomers have a complete inability to participate in the dating market. If I was China, do you know what I would do? I would get a bunch of those dudes. You ever see those videos where they got like 100 cell phones all plugged in and they're all automated sock puppeting? I would get 10,000 of those accounts.
Starting point is 01:15:18 If I was China and I would start dumping money into only fans girls. I would convince a generation of my enemies women to be whores, to be hookers. Well, the problem is that's already happening. That's banned in China. It's not allowed. No, but you know what? That was already read in the congressional record that Russia, the communists were going to do this in America. In 1943, the congressional record, 45 tenets of communism. And that was, that was big, that was to normalize rampant sexuality and to make traditional norms go away and accept the extremes. And that's what exactly, and, you know, we were told by the Soviets,
Starting point is 01:15:55 they told Eisenhower, they said, you won't be a communist, but your children's children will be communist and we're going to do it by by going after your traditional value we should uh we should subpoena only fans they should be investigated to see if the subscriptions that are coming through are are uh how much of it is based in foreign countries and particularly adversaries of the united states i i think i i think we're underestimating the degeneracy of the american people no no no no no no i'm not but i but i'm saying i wouldn't be surprised if we found like 20 percent of all the money was coming from china or russia i don't i mean we watched calip hammer show, every single guy that goes on the show has a bunch of only fan subscriptions. I think
Starting point is 01:16:33 I think the call came from inside the house in this situation. I truly, I truly think. That's a cultural problem and we need to shame these guys. But I think you can say it got started by outside forces because those who knew America knew that we were strong, we were too strong to be taken down from outside. I think the communist infiltrated. They got the, they got the wheels turning and now we've taken it to the yump degree on our own. Yeah, but I mean, I think that's true. But this has always been the case through history where outside forces seek to destabilize an adversary. Like, for example, you know, the British imported opium into China to, you know, to be able to start a war and they got a treaty poured out of it.
Starting point is 01:17:10 So, I mean, this, I mean, I agree that I do think maybe the inklings were sowed by our adversaries. But, I mean, I agree. I mean, certainly. But I think by and large, the American people, like, I'm generally pretty dismissive of claims that, like, our adversaries are making things bad. I'm like, Americans are kind of retarded. New rule for this show. Anybody who we're going to hire, one of the first questions we ask is,
Starting point is 01:17:35 do you have an only fans account? Like, are you paying any only fans? And if you lie to us, you're going to sign your contract. I do not have OnlyFans and I have pay for it. And people who want to come on the show. If you're paying for it, no, get out.
Starting point is 01:17:51 Do a Caleb Hammer show before the show? As a pastor, I can say, I do not have an OnlyFans account Or am I paying for anything on OnlyFans? We should do a Caleb Hammer-style pre-show, a financial audit for the pre-show. I mean, to be fair, I love his show. I didn't watch it before. I didn't watch Caleb Hammer when he was a financial auditor, but I do watch him now
Starting point is 01:18:11 when he shames leftists. It's fantastic. And it's like he's mocking these people who have OnlyFans. I'm like, absolutely. Thank you, sir. It's fun. That's awesome. When he roasts these people who don't read books or Google search the things they believe.
Starting point is 01:18:24 Yeah. Well, and what's so upsetting about the whole thing with pornography, It's like pornography. How do they go on his show? Well, that's, yeah, I think he pays them or something. But I hear that. We should do, we should do that. Oh, I agree.
Starting point is 01:18:35 Tim and Tate, take down. That'd be great. I would love to go through people's financial records. No, we don't, we literally just be like, what do you spend money on? And they're like porn. It's like, you're a loser. Yeah. But the thing is like pornography is like nested inside of a much larger issue.
Starting point is 01:18:49 The larger issue that needs to be addressed, which probably you can only socially engineer your way out of it, is that sexuality has become commodified. where you know you ban porn it doesn't actually solve the main problem here which is that sexuality in of itself has become completely commodified this is where I put on my sort of Christian hat here I mean I always have my Christian hat on but I think Christianity addresses this directly is you know sexuality the Christian's kind of the secret sauce if you kind of reserve it within the bounds of marriage it does solve a lot of problems because like you know I think that you're kind of seeing it now with the whole Cornell 7 thing is that ultimately people do feel get people do feel guilty people do feel guilty people do feel guilty of when they sort of, you know, conduct their sexuality outside the bounds of marriage. And then they'll look for reasons why I might be feeling guilty. And they'll try to blame it on something. And I'm like, I think the reality is, you haven't lived a virtuous lifestyle according to our creator. And now you're living in the consequences of that.
Starting point is 01:19:41 So you want to blame society. Yeah, exactly. So absolutely. And I would agree with that wholeheartedly. And you know what studies even show if you follow that, that biblical lifestyle, you're going to be happier. There's the statistics. I mean, those who are walking in a monogamous. marriage, right? They have better sex. They have a better, healthier, you know, family life. They're,
Starting point is 01:20:02 they're genuinely more happy and fulfilled than anyone else in the, I mean, there's a reason Kurt Cobain killed himself when he was at the pinnacle of his fame, the pinnacle of money, the pinnacle of success, and he still took his own life is because at the end of all of those things, there's still as emptiness until you fill it with what our creator told us to fill it with. Yeah. Well, and what's, what's so disturbing about this is generally this is, generally this this is a good practical application. But now, because of feminism, a wrench has been thrown in, which is a lot of men get married,
Starting point is 01:20:31 and then they end up, like, totally, like, chained. Like, they're totally just getting, like, dominated in their marriage. And so what used to just be, like, a fix-all-old, it's like, just, dude, just get married. And, like, it's going to be fine. Now a lot of men are getting married, and they're, like, getting totally whipped by their wives as well. And, like, that's what's so alarming is, like,
Starting point is 01:20:48 our society has eroded so much that you don't even have these, like, safe bets anymore. I mean, I would say following Christ is going to be a safe bet, but if you're going to, like, quantify that and, like, step-by-step advice, there's multiple instances where an external factor can come in and just, like, totally take that, that sort of plank out. And that's what's so frustrating is, like, you know, you really got to make sure it's not enough just to get married. You've got to, like, be sure you're marrying, like, a sane, normal woman because I think the Lindsay Clancy thing kind of exposed all this. It's like, you could do everything right. You could do everything your pastor says, and then she, like, like, slimes out your whole family. And you're like, okay, well, what happened here? So, I'm not countersale. I totally agree. I'm just unfortunate that we can't even necessarily give that. It's like, just get married young. It's like, whoa. There's a historical precedent for this. Every 80 years, there's a cycle throughout world history. You can see it of strong societies that turn into weak societies. And it's this cycle. It's hard societies. It's hard times. It's hard times. It's hard times create weak men and weak men create hard times. And we are in the cycle of weak men. I mean, this is Strauss Howe generational theory. Yes, that's right. Yeah. And we are in. called the fourth turning. It is happening within the next two years. 80 years ago, we had the World War. 80 years before that, we had a civil war. Eight years before that, we had the revolutionary period. There actually was also, we don't really follow this because it was pre-American
Starting point is 01:22:08 history. It was colonial history. But eight years before that, there was also a great crisis with the UK in the, it was like 1690s. There's a, there's a modern, It's a modern articulation of that idea. It's nicotine men create good times, good times, create weed guys, weed guys, create bad times, bad times create nicotine men. I love it, man. I've never heard that one. But to your point, King Phillips War. Yeah, is that what it was?
Starting point is 01:22:35 Yeah. 17 what? It was 1670s. 1670s, all right. So it was about 100 years. Well, actually, the American Revolutionary period started in the 17th. 1550, 1760s. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:48 Well, weak men. I was going to tell you, I mean, and that's why the Me Too movement and this toxic masculinity movement is so dangerous because you're eradicating the one thing that God designed to protect society, which is masculine, strong men who are men that love fiercely. They love their families, they love their wives, their children, they love their communities and their neighbors, and they will be violent and go to war to protect that which they loved. Yo. I'm sorry, real quick. King Phillips War is considered one of the bloodiest conflicts per capita in U.S. history.
Starting point is 01:23:21 And nobody talks about it because it was colonial, it was not American Revolution. Yeah. Why? Yeah, it was the English going to war with all the Indian tribes. Yep. I think it was kind of like residue from the French and Indian War and then led to like a sort of unification. To your point, there was just today Hillary Clinton was on warning Joe talking to, you know, Joe and Mika. And she was saying that she was warning against the rise of Christian.
Starting point is 01:23:45 Christianity. She said that white Christian men are causing such damage to the United States. The idea you could turn back, turn the clock back and try to recreate a world that never was dominated by, let's say it, white men of a certain persuasion, certain religion, certain ideology. It's just doing such damage to what we should be aiming for. I think the way she articulated it is actually good because it is doing damage to what they're aiming for. It is the response to what the left. want to create and what the left are creating, what they want to create, what they are creating is utter chaos. Well, it's feminism, which is, as its root, it is the spirit of Jezebel. If you go back and study the biblical times, the spirit of Jezebel hated strong men. And so I would say, Hillary Clinton is the modern manifestation of that spirit of Jezebel in the flesh in America's, in American society. So yes, she's right.
Starting point is 01:24:42 Strong Christian men are a threat to what she's. she believes and everything she stands for. So, yeah, she should be scared because strong Christian men standing up and saying, we are not going to put up with this absolute destructive feminist worldview that you have that you're pushing on America. We're going to fight you at every turn. Yeah, she should be scared. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:24:59 And I'm, I tweeted, I retweeted it. And it absolutely makes me happy that she goes on shows like Morning Joe and says this stuff because she is literally, she's actually saying the truth. right like strong like I'm I'm not even like I'm not really a believer I'm pretty fairly agnostic I mean maybe I'm but you believe the principles of yeah I mean you'll understand the principles yeah call myself Catholic curious I was raised a Catholic and I don't have I don't have a deep-seated strong faith but I do think that if you're going to have a society there has to be foundational things that your society believes and I think that Christians get it right that's
Starting point is 01:25:41 right and our history is rooted in Judeo-Christian ethics which is which is work really well for all Western society. Now you have things like communism that want to push God out, you have radical Islam that wants to come in and replace Christianity with a Sharia law, you know, death cult. And they are not shy about their religion. They are not shy about enforcing their norms on other people. And when Hillary Clinton sees the Islamists coming in and the radical Muslims who want to push this down our throes, they celebrate that. This will come on in, which is the wildest thing because Sharia law, Islam totally subjugates women. I mean, it completely takes away any progressive feminist movement freedom that they fought for over the last 60 years.
Starting point is 01:26:24 So it's kind of wild, but it's two demonic forces aligning so that they can tear down. The one thing that they know would protect American freedom and our children's children, and that is strong men standing on Christian values. Yeah. I mean, it's the red-green alliance. It's exactly what happened in Iran. It's the reason why. we are dealing with the situation in Iran today is because of that.
Starting point is 01:26:47 And as much as the left refuses to acknowledge it, they will be absolutely crushed should they get their way. The progressives, they don't have any way to defend against the Islamists, the Muslim ideology. They don't have any way to defend against it because their entire worldview is wrapped up in the idea that Islam and Muslims are an oppressed minority, even though they're not. Their entire ideology is wrapped up in Islam is an oppressed minority,
Starting point is 01:27:21 and so we can't tell them no. And because they don't possess the ability to tell them no, should they get into power, they will be wiped out just like they were in Iran. And honestly, the UK needs to hear this too. They need to understand that if they continue down the path that they're on, in 30, 40 years, the UK will be an Islam. even take that long. I mean, I think it's, I think they're already gone. I mean, I don't know if there
Starting point is 01:27:46 is any hope for the UK. I mean, seeing what I'm seeing now, they've given themselves over to the, and the strong men of the UK have either fled or have, have been pushed, have been, you know, subjugated themselves. Yeah. So, yeah, I think, I think we are in a battle. And you're right, absolutely, Phil, where this is the red, green alliance playing out all over again. It worked really well in Iran. If you go back and read news articles in the 70s about the Shaw and Iran, or when they were tearing down the shawl, right, the communists tore down the shaw, and then the Caliphate came in and established. They were saying of Ayatollah Kameenie back in the 70s, mid-70s, he was going to be a champion for women's rights. Which is hilarious. The guy we just killed.
Starting point is 01:28:21 Insane. We sent his scud missile up his backside a few months ago. Like this, this guy was being championed as a women's rights activist. He gets in the power. He lets the communists do the hard work of tearing down the Shaw and the traditions, the walls that protected the Persian people for many generations. Now, the Shaw wasn't a necessarily good guy. He was corrupt and greedy, but he wasn't a hire it like what you saw the it Itola become and then they push him out The communists pushed out the shawl There's a vacuum and wouldn't you know it
Starting point is 01:28:48 The radical Islamists come in and then they March the communists out in the street a few weeks later And shoot them all Yeah and I mean most people know this Or at least they they have a sense of this Iran used to be a Western-styled country Same thing in Afghanistan You can look at pictures of Afghanistan
Starting point is 01:29:04 In the 70s before the Before the Revolution there Like it was a West It was on track to be a Western-style country, and it wouldn't be basically a basket-case nation like it is today, had they not been overtaken by an Islamist government. I don't know how it's here. I don't know what other parts of the country,
Starting point is 01:29:23 but I can tell you in Indiana, you know, when I'm talking to legislators or people in government and I'm saying, hey, listen, Islam is the greatest internal threat that we have right now that we're dealing with, they say, oh, well, it's not really that bad. Oh, they're not very, there's not many of them. oh, like they could never, Sharia law could never replace constitutional law. And I'm like, man, people are so short-sighted.
Starting point is 01:29:46 They don't know history. They don't know modern history. And they certainly don't know the last 1,400 years of what Islam has done to what the Western civilization. And they're here to destroy everything we believe in. And I don't know what we have to do to wake these people up. Are they just ignorant of history? Are they just like this idea of being blissful because of their ignorance?
Starting point is 01:30:05 I have no idea. But we've got to sound the alarm and say, guys, By the time you realize, the danger with Islam is by the time you realize it's a problem, it's too late. They've got their foot on your throat and you're dead at that point. I mean, look, there is example after example after example throughout all of the Middle East of countries, and not only Middle East, but Asia as well. Countries that used to be, you know, what you would consider on track to be a Western country that have turned into countries that are no longer that way. And even if you look at like Saudi Arabia, right, they kicked all of the hardliners and all the extremists out. And there are people in Saudi Arabia.
Starting point is 01:30:44 There are people in the UAE in the government that warn Europe and they warn the West. They're like, get rid of the Muslim Brotherhood. Get rid of these organizations. We don't have the problems of, you know, of radical Islam because we throw these people in jail. Yeah. And Europe is not listening. the UK is not listening. And for the people in the back that are listening, please understand when people say, well, freedom of religion in America, Islam is not a religion. It's a political
Starting point is 01:31:15 and military ideology masquerading as a religion to take advantage of our liberties here and our suicidal empathy that Americans oftentimes, you know, put out to the world so quickly. So Islam is not a religion. It is a political and military ideology that is hostile to the West. It's hostile to everything we believe and hold true in America. And if we don't see that and stop it before it gets a foothold, my fear is it's going to be too late. Yeah. I think we have a lot of like various ethnic sort of enclaves that have sort of formed in the United States that are all vying for power. I think Muslims are certainly a component of that. I think what's not talked about by Republicans enough as Hindus. I mean, Indians writ large, especially Hindus, also engage in this
Starting point is 01:32:00 kind of ethnic nepotism, you can see it in the H-1B data. I mean, it's so obvious what's going on here. And I mean, that's why I think Beau French was fantastic to call it out, because it really struck a nerve, because all of a sudden, you saw a lot of Republicans who correctly, you know, chestbeat about Muslim migration. Again, correctly. Like, I support a Muslim ban, remigration, et cetera. But also, like, we got to, we got to, like, address all of these problems because we're seeing the same things with, again, Indian immigrants and their descendants, also engaging in a lot of the same behaviors. Granted, they're not going to go blow up a city bus or anything like that. But the long-term damage of the country is still there. I think the priority
Starting point is 01:32:34 ultimately really needs to be putting Americans first and actually determining what an American is first. You hit the, you hit it on the head. Determining what an American is. That's the problem. You go to any ridiculously expensive, you know, uh, valueless Ivy League school and you ask any professor to say, can you please identify what being an American is? What is our core value system? What is what are our core beliefs like what do we and I think you're going to get a thousand different answers I think they will all be radically away from the truth of what we really are and so we've got to redefine who we are as Americans not not redefine it in the sense that we're making up new definitions but go back take back what the culture has stolen say no we're going back to the beginning what is
Starting point is 01:33:18 what did our founders believe being American actually met and then if you come here and if you immigrate here do it legally and assimilate into our culture because in immigration without assimilation is invasion, and we have a lot of people invade our country because they're not assimilation. What both French pointed out, I think we see, and I, I loved what he said, and I shared it, like, he's pointing out, this is not assimilation. Yeah, they're all hanging out together. I'm like, where, where's the, where's this beautiful melting pot picture? This isn't it not looked like a melting pot. It looked like we had just totally been taken over by a completely different culture, and, and what happened? Yeah, it was a salad with a giant tomato in it. That's all
Starting point is 01:33:57 I hate tomatoes. I like tomatoes. I know. It's so true. And the what is an American thing? Super easy. We don't even need to do like any like introspect. I mean, I know I like doing it, but we don't necessarily need to do all this like introspection. We just have to ask Japanese people. And the Japanese are like, oh, like Mike Trout. You look like that. It's very easy. Just go ask the Japanese. Like what's an American? They'll tell you. They put it in their video games. There's a lot of things we should ask the Japanese and act on their advice. The Japanese out there. Like why did they start bringing in third world migrants? Yeah. Oh, I don't know if we can Chesapeed. They brought in like 10,000. We brought in millions. I know, I know. That's asking them like, yeah. Why would you? They're stopping.
Starting point is 01:34:35 They already elected a really national. It's because their birth rate is so ridiculously low. Yeah. But like it took like 10,000 third world migrants, which is like a drop in the bucket for 127 million people for them to elect like a full blown nationals who's like, we're not letting a single one back in. So the Japanese like lock in. I have a lot.
Starting point is 01:34:51 You know, I've made the point. I think Japan's the only Western nation left when you really truly think, when you truly think about what it means to be Western. Oh, bro. Japanese or and I mean, they're hardcore about it.
Starting point is 01:35:00 Yeah. Well, yeah, and the new lady comes in and she's like, oh, Mario and Luigi are foreign. Get them out of here. Let's go.
Starting point is 01:35:08 And it was so funny. Oh, so funny where like Trump, like, I guess he may be, I don't know, but he like didn't understand like Pearl Harbor's like really touchy subject there.
Starting point is 01:35:16 So he was like, you know, like these surprise attacks. Like the Prime Minister of Japan with Pearl Harbor, you know, and he's like saying, oh, great work.
Starting point is 01:35:23 He's almost like complimenting him and she's like disturbed. It's so funny, dude. Oh, man, I loved it. I love President Trump. There were a lot of Japanese people on X that were like, that were actually appreciative of his making a joke about it like that. Because to them, at least the way that they were articulating on X,
Starting point is 01:35:42 they were like, look, it makes it okay for us to address this now. It's something that we had, you know, we don't want to talk about or the Japanese people had dealt with. They're not irony poison there. Like, here, we can't take anything seriously. They don't have that. So they're like, well, Pearl Harbor must be really. sensitive for them. Why are they joking about it? We're like, did we joke about like 9-11?
Starting point is 01:35:59 Did you imagine, though, if Japan was like, hey, maybe it's not a good idea to attack an American military base, let's just not do that? Maybe not. Then basically all of East Asia would just be Japan. Yeah, no, that's a very true. Oh, shoot. Yeah, it's a huge, huge thing with the Japanese where they refuse to apologize for anything, which is like fine, that's their prerogative.
Starting point is 01:36:22 But the Koreans, where the South Koreans and the Japanese should like live. literally on the same page about everything because they have adversary right there. But they still, like, every three years, like a row happens diplomatically and they get really mad that Japan won't apologize for the comfort women and all that. Really fast. And the Japanese, like, dude, they just, that's why they, if you read the media around the time, I was talking about pre-show when Obama went over there and, like, apologized for the nuclear bombs, which was like the gayest thing ever.
Starting point is 01:36:47 The Japanese are like, what is he doing? What's wrong with this? Because Japanese recognized what actually happened after World War II. The blessing of liberty actually came to. their shores because we're the only nation that says we will go to war with you, but after you surrender and after we make peace, we will help you rebuild in a way that actually benefits your society. I mean, no other nation does that.
Starting point is 01:37:10 We just say, hey, give us enough space to bury our dead that we just, that we fought. And now we want to help you be set free and accomplish liberty. I dream of a Starbucks on every corner in Tehran. The American dream. The American Dream is going to be McDonald's, Hard Rock Cafes, Gouchees, and Casinos. Wait, because the cultures that emerge out of the countries that we, you know, we are victorious against, always vastly different than the pre-war culture. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:39 You know, the Germans. You think about the Japanese. I mean, you can look across the board of all of our, you know, people that we've defeated. Do you know? I wonder what's going to, if we beat Iran, what does Iran anime look like? I don't know. What is Iranian Pikachu? Persian Pikachu.
Starting point is 01:37:55 Persian Pikachu is really fascinating to think about. Do you know the story of the Yata song, Japanese song, Yata? Yata, Yata, Yata, Yata, Yata, Yata is a big meme. So apparently post-war generations were depressed and miserable. Young men in Japan were hopeless. It was not to look forward to. And the song came out called Hooray, Yata in Japanese. And it was like lifting people's spirits up because they were like killing themselves like crazy, just with hopelessness.
Starting point is 01:38:24 Well, the ministry of culture in Japan, they have a ministry of culture, which I guess would be their equivalent to like some sort of like soft power exercising or whatever. They, after the war, we're like, everyone thinks we're like, you know, samurai and stuff. So we need to like soften our image. They think about kamikaze. We think about Japan. So they're like, okay, we got to get everyone into a room and we got to like figure out how we can soften our image to the world. You know, it makes a lot of sense. You don't want to be viewed as like still the big, bad Japanese empire.
Starting point is 01:38:49 So they came with Hello Kitty. Hello Kitty was quite literally like pushed by the Ministry of Culture to soften, you know. And it's funny because Dave Chappelle had a bit and it was like a funny bit that he came up completely independently. But he hit the nail on the head of this what I'm talking about where he had a joke where he said, you know, we bombed the masculinity out of him. Like we dropped two nuclear bombs. He sort of drawn Hello Kitty. And it's like actually he's completely correct. That's exactly what happened is they said we're too masculine.
Starting point is 01:39:13 Like people think like Machima and stuff when they think about Japan, which machima is kind of based. He's separate from the whole fascist thing, kind of. Anyway, the Ministry of Culture was like, okay, we got to, like, soften our image up, so let's push the locate. So it's funny that Dave Chappelle, like, indirectly was, like, giving the correct history of what happened there. Taylor Moon, I didn't mean it counters a while. You know the funny thing about anime? It's like every character's white. Yeah, basically.
Starting point is 01:39:36 Like Naruto, it's like one of the most popular anime in a long time. It's a blonde-haired kid. Japanese are white. Yeah, the Japanese. That's not what I mean. I said this in Phil and caught some high. I'm saying, like, Sailor Moon is blonde and blue eyes. You almost look Japanese a little bit.
Starting point is 01:39:47 I mean, just when the white. Are you? I'm 5% Japanese. That's why I was going to say 5%. 20% Korean. 10% lug, 20% skill. That's true. That's correct.
Starting point is 01:39:58 5% Japanese and what, 95%? West Virginia. 95% Korean. 95% level of the game. Then a bunch of random European, American nonsense. Did you do, like, how do you know this? Are you just guessing? Or did you actually?
Starting point is 01:40:12 No, no. My grandmother's from Korea. Oh, you didn't do 23% of me? No, no, no. My mom did. Okay. But my grandmother's literally from Korea. Okay, cool.
Starting point is 01:40:19 And so my grandmother was 20% Japanese. Okay. Which has implications, if anyone understands what that means. You get free school? I don't know. No, it means the Korean women weren't intentionally becoming Japanese. Ah, got you. Pretent was a Romeo and Juliet situation.
Starting point is 01:40:34 That's what I'm saying, because we had a super chat once, and they were like, how dare you dishonor Japanese people? They did nothing wrong. And I was like, guys, I'm not going to pretend that, like, some Japanese guy and some Korean woman had a forbidden love. You know, like, and eloped. Like, it was probably war rape. Yeah. So there you go. My grandparents were missionaries to Japan after World War II.
Starting point is 01:40:55 So they were men of that missionaries. My mom was born in Tokyo. Oh, wow. Yeah, so they were on the north side of, they did missionary work on the North Island, which is Hokkaido. And a little village called Hombetsu is where they. My great grandfather is from what would now be North Korea. At the time, it wasn't North and South Korea. It was just Korea, yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:13 Oh, my great grandfather, he lived in Okinawa. He was fighting. He was in the war. People don't understand Okinawa is like deep, deep far south from Japan. I just like, it's like Japan's Hawaii. Yeah. I met a Japanese guy once. I was like, my great grandfather lived there.
Starting point is 01:41:26 And he's like, really? And I was like, yeah, he was killing you guys. He was killing you guys. He was like, oh. Anybody Starbucks? He wasn't. He was an engineer for the record. I don't ever get offended by any of this history stuff.
Starting point is 01:41:40 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, but real quick, I did find out I was Japanese because of my mom's 23 in me. because we didn't know my grandma was part Japanese she was a Korean woman from Korea but then it's like oh would you look at that you know okay that's cool did you say that they would have been in North Korea
Starting point is 01:41:55 or my my great grandmother would have been in South my great grandfather was in North okay wow yeah well but there wasn't North and South back yeah no idea it's just a bunch of farmers yeah yeah yeah and again going back to just kind of if we knew history this communist uprising in America
Starting point is 01:42:13 would I mean people could just look at North Korea I mean, look what communism gets you. Just fly over North Korea at night, you know, do a... Nah, not, not. Have you ever listened to Greta Toonberg? North Korea is communist paradise. That's right. You live in the woods.
Starting point is 01:42:27 You have no food. There's no animals to eat. I'm not even joking. Did she really say that? She does not. Greta Toonberg said several years ago, she says, we don't want to wait till 2030. We want to end fossil fuels today.
Starting point is 01:42:39 Yeah, I knew that. Yeah, she wants to live like... These lefties want to live like North Korea. That's crazy. They want communism. They don't want communism. They don't want the electricity. They want green.
Starting point is 01:42:47 They don't want climate change. They don't know. They don't know history. And that's the problem. I mean, they really don't. And actually, they don't even, they're not even looking around the world. They don't know modern events. Yeah. Modern events, right?
Starting point is 01:42:58 Yeah. Current events. That's true. Yep. Oh, yeah, like the AOC thing. It's a perfect example. You know what? I was just talking to some friends.
Starting point is 01:43:05 And I'm just like, no one gets to vote anymore. No one gets to vote. Yep. I saw a part. There's this video of these people in D.C. having a pro data center party. And I'm like, it's just so stupid. Like you're allowed to be in favor of data centers
Starting point is 01:43:16 So you're not like a midst, whatever But like to throw a party that's like We love data centers It's like Sure But then protesters showed up And they were like They're stealing our water
Starting point is 01:43:26 And I'm like oh my God Kevin O'Leary wanted to build a bunch of data centers In the middle of the desert And they protested that They're not protesting anything Logically It's just they're mad And you say I got a solution for you
Starting point is 01:43:40 And they go I don't want a solution I want to be mad It's like okay well then don't vote Five year olds but they vote. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, which is crazy.
Starting point is 01:43:47 They shouldn't vote. Yeah, I wish we could do sort of a constitutional litmus test before people get their voting registration card. Nobody votes. Yeah. In my opinion, we need to
Starting point is 01:43:58 like shrink the number of voters down to a few million in total. There's, there's, we're talking about this day with you. And there's no way. The issue is you don't need votes. You don't need laws.
Starting point is 01:44:10 You don't need police. When you have a morally and culturally homogenous. people. So the example that I like to give is, you know, you said you're a pastor. Yeah. If everybody in this country, 100% were devout Christians, you would not need police. You'd need civil court because disagreements happened. But you wouldn't need, you wouldn't need any codified law because everybody would be living by their moral tradition, which is in Christianity. You'd have civil law, codified law for civil issues because you can be morally virtuous and still dispute a
Starting point is 01:44:43 property line. But you're, and you would need probably facilitators for that. But you're not going to need a guy to chase down a gangbanger who just shot a bunch of people. Don't get me wrong. I am being hyperbolic, because obviously like, right, it would never never happen. A dispute over property could result in two morally virtuous people fighting. Yeah, I mean. No, and you're, and you're right, like when you see faith increase, you'll see crime go down, right? And just the Christian ethic will naturally push those things in society that are ills, they'll, they'll kind of make them obsolete to some extent. But I will say this, we're always going to have crap because of the sin nature, the fallen state of man, until Christ returned someday. I mean, so, you know, God's ordained way was to
Starting point is 01:45:26 have government that did not bear the sword in vain. I mean, that's, even when, even when all the people, I mean, this was given, this was even back in the wilderness with Moses, all the people were technically, you know, God's people, right? They all said, hey, we're Israel. hey, we recognize Yahweh as the one true God. There was still crime and there were still problems. There had to be justice carried out. And this is where the Hebrew Republic was birthed out of when Moses was told by his father-in-law,
Starting point is 01:45:51 hey, established the thousands, the hundreds, the 50s, because you can't do it all because people were coming to him saying, hey, civilly, we need you to adjudicate something, Moses. But then there was also criminal stuff that was going on that didn't happen. I interviewed Dave the Flat Earth guy. Yeah, yeah. The Earth is flat. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:05 Also on the culture war back in the day when we were doing these debates, we had a geocentrist, a standard, you know, modern astrophysics physics guy, as well as a flat eartheron. I said that Dave, I am not so egotistically attached to belief that I get offended if you believe something that I think is wrong. Yeah, yeah. And I was just thinking, as you said this, I was like, it is unfortunate, I'm not a Christian, I'm not going to pretend to be. But it is unfortunate that so many lefty, secular and atheist types haven't even considered what their life would. would be like under Christian moral ethics or, because it largely is still in the United States,
Starting point is 01:46:43 or how their lives could be improved by it. Yeah, totally. Yeah, you're 100% right, Tim. I mean, it's, I tell people when they say, oh, don't push your religion down my throat. I'm not pushing my religion down my throat. I just believe there's something better for you out there. Like, I want your life to improve.
Starting point is 01:46:57 And I just think there's something over here that will help your life drastically improve. I believe that there's a creator. Well, first of all, our Declaration of Independence says there's a creator. I believe what the founders knew to be true, which is there's a guy. none of us are him let's look to him but i believe this god isn't just a creator that says hey i created
Starting point is 01:47:13 you now just you know live and let live i believe this creator says hey i i love you more than you could ever even imagine i know you better than you know yourself and i have something so awesome in store for you and i want to give that to you and when people find that it's like it becomes life giving well that's that's the that's the philosophy that's the theology that's the faith that's the spiritual that is the transcendent yeah even beyond that i'm saying like your houses we're be cheaper. That's right. You'd have less murder. Yeah. You'd work less. Like, the practical life you live would be improved with a strong moral foundation. 100%. And again, that's, you know, Thomas Payne, Thomas Payne was a great, great founder.
Starting point is 01:47:51 He was an atheist. He was an atheist. He did not believe in faith that it was real to him. He was an atheist. However, he recognized that these principles of Christian values, if America's, if the American Republic rest on these principles, it would make his life better, his family's life better, his neighbor's life better. You don't have to be a Christian, going to church, taking communion every single week to benefit when good ethics are the foundation of your society. But we have diversity now. Meaning you've got one enclave in, say, you know, insert city where Democrats have imported an enclave. I'm not going to single any group out. But their moral tradition says that they can say,
Starting point is 01:48:32 you know, give surgery to young girls. Right, yeah. Mutilation. Yeah. And they're like, nothing's wrong with that. And then we're like shocked and appalled by it. And now you've got in the United States, you've got China operating private police departments. You've got Sharia patrols. You've got, what is it, Mosaic Law Patrol? You've like Jewish groups that go around. Yeah, yeah. It's crazy. It's like, what are we doing? Yeah. And so I was doing a town hall. I do all these town halls around the state of Indiana. I love doing just open mics, right? Like, hey, come on out. I get the leftists to come out in droves,
Starting point is 01:49:00 these anti-god communists, and I love it. I mean, it's amazing. And so they'll come out. This one lady we were in this like upper class, donut county, this little town called Zionsville, just outside of Indianapolis. And it's just like leftist hub of, you know, woke, you know, Cairns. And so this one Karen came out. And she was ripping on me. She stands up to the microphone. She's like, get your God out of our government. Get religion out. We don't want anything to do with faces. Okay, fine. But who are you going to replace him with? What religion and what God will you replace him with? She was like, that's crazy. We don't need a God. I said, okay, hold on a second. Every nation is a God.
Starting point is 01:49:32 The only question is who is it? When you figure out that that God of that nation says this is good and this is bad, every nation has one, then you build your laws based on whatever that God says. And I said, so you go to Iran. They say that throwing LGBTQ members off of buildings is a good thing and their laws allow it. I said to her, do you think that's a good thing? And she looked at me and she was like, well, no, that's terrible. I said, but who says?
Starting point is 01:49:54 You go over there and tell them they're wrong. They're going to say, no, you're wrong. Who's right? And I said, that's the problem, ma'am. When you remove God, you remove any moral lawgiver and everyone's objective truth becomes their reality and anyone can do whatever they want to do. Here's my response to these lefties. So they say, get your God out of our government, right? So here's my question to the lefty.
Starting point is 01:50:14 Okay, so do you believe that God is real? Do you believe that Jesus Christ is king? And how do you think they'd respond? Oh. So if God's not real, then what is this religion? It's clearly not backed by any deity or defined scripture. it would just be like a political ideology, right? If you believe there is no God and there is no Jesus,
Starting point is 01:50:36 then this is just a group of people who believe in a political structure, right? Okay, what's the difference between their political structure and your political structure? Neither are backed by a God in your belief. You are the one who says there is no God. Therefore, these people, I just have bad beliefs. Okay, you have beliefs as well. The issue is that... Why yours and not theirs?
Starting point is 01:50:56 As it pertains to law, the left, when they say get got out of government, they're saying get your ideology out of our government. My response is in what replace it with your ideology. Yeah. Yeah, when people say, hey, check your Christianity at the gates of the statehouse, at the doors of the stayhouse. And I'll say, okay, wait, you
Starting point is 01:51:13 someone who's LGBTQ, you said they can bring their identity in. If a doctor comes in, you can bring their identity in. If a teacher comes in, bring your, but because I'm a Christian, I'm a pastor, you want me to check my identity at the door? No, no, no. If you get to bring yours in, I get to bring mine in and they, and I'll tell you this line one thing.
Starting point is 01:51:30 Yeah, yeah. You don't like Christians. That's right. Exactly. Anything but Christ and anyone, or anyone but Christ and anything but Christianity. I was talking to one guy in my neighborhood once. He comes and he says, listen, I'm not a Trump fan. He starts ripping on Trump.
Starting point is 01:51:40 I said, well, why not? He said, well, because he's a womanizer and he's a cheater and he's a liar, steals money and all the stuff. I said, okay, hey, we're trying to get a law in Indiana past where we put the Ten Commandments on every school room wall, right? Would you be okay with that? He said, well, absolutely not. that's not there's no place for religion in our schools i said hold hold on i said you're telling me
Starting point is 01:52:00 you're going to hold don't trump to a standard of don't commit adultery don't steal don't lie all the things the 10 commandments say to do but you don't want them up anywhere in our culture don't hold this man to a standard you yourself will not promote in your regular life yep yeah we're going to go to your rumble rants and super chat smash the like button share the show with all of your friends, they desperately need to hear the show and you just need to grace their ears with it. That's how we do promotion here. We're good at it. And then the uncensored show is coming up in a few minutes, but let's get the flan the man.
Starting point is 01:52:34 I have a give send to go if anyone is able to help. Help our family move after eviction notice. We need to be out by Halloween. Sorry to hear it, brother man. Best of luck. B. Mobius says squirrels are rats with PR. Yeah, I call them tree rats. They're tree rats, especially in New York.
Starting point is 01:52:52 They're rough. all right what do we have here Casey says how is Trump ending the 20 year war in Iraq not the biggest news of the day yeah the last troops left huh because it was largely drawn down there's a couple hundred troops we had there for like in an advisory position yeah and there's still in the region right I mean I mean even Central Command said hey we're still close by we need to if stuff gets out of hand we're close by to every rim gaming says I help my buddy at his
Starting point is 01:53:17 farm in Illinois it is a dollar 40 more than it is in Indiana presumably saying for gas wait I would say that again how much was it? A dollar 40 more. Oof. Yeah, I assume he means gasoline. Yeah. It's, it's, man, Illinois is so jacked up. Hey, moved to Indiana. We want, we want conservatives moved to Indiana. Don't. The opportunity is Indiana. For my friends that don't want to leave Chicago. I mean, look, the bears found it. That's right. And it's not, but look, here's the thing. It's really simple.
Starting point is 01:53:45 Illinois said, we don't care about the bears. And India said, we absolutely do. And they paid. That's right. Did you see the story last year? I don't know if you saw it, but, Illinois, 33 counties voted in Illinois to secede from Illinois. Really? It came to our legislature last year. So we had to pass a bill to accept these 33 counties. Did you? Yeah, we did.
Starting point is 01:54:05 Heck yeah, we did. And the governor signed it, right? So we have a bill. We said, hey, we will take these 33 counties in southern part of Illinois to become part of Indiana. So now it goes back to the Illinois state legislature, which probably won't happen. If they were to do it, though, then we go to Congress and Congress would redraw the lines. I think you guys should file a lawsuit and argue that, and look, I understand the Supreme Court.
Starting point is 01:54:31 This may fall under original jurisdiction because it's going to be a state versus state issue. So it goes directly to the Supreme Court. I imagine they'll probably say no because I view them to be largely politically motive. Most people are. They're political. It doesn't matter what's right or what's true. But this nation was founded on the principle of self-governance. That if a group of people determine they have a right to decide how they are ruled,
Starting point is 01:54:53 That means if these counties say we are Indiana, Illinois should have no right to block them from doing so. Yeah. And I think the people there would be happier. Yeah. It would create political pressure on Illinois to fix their business. We have seen this with Northern California, the state of Jefferson, with greater Idaho. I did not realize we had 33 counties in Illinois saying it in Western Maryland. Three counties voted to succeed and join West Virginia.
Starting point is 01:55:22 It should be up to the people in those counties to decide which state they are a part of. And this would be tremendous, in my opinion, because it would force the states to listen to the minority, to guarantee minority representation for these communities. Yeah. So let me tell you about Maryland, because you probably get it with Illinois and Indiana stuff. In Western Maryland, largely rural, you can't own certain guns because Baltimore has gun violence. That's ridiculous. Yeah, and I understand that they're like, we got a problem with gun violence in Baltimore. so we're going to pass some laws.
Starting point is 01:55:53 Sure, sure. But how are you going to go tell a guy who lives in the wilderness in Western Maryland? He can't now have an M1, M1A, because you're scared about a guy in Baltimore who's got a Glock. Yeah. So M1A's are banned in Maryland. They're considered assault weapons. Ridiculous. Yet the problem in Baltimore is Glock's.
Starting point is 01:56:09 Yeah. It's absolutely insane what that state does. Listen, you elect bad politicians. They create bad policy and the whole people suffer. Well, this is the thing. I have this conversation all the time. One of our contractors was here. She's like moderate, kind of liberal.
Starting point is 01:56:24 And I was like, you know, I went to the March for Our Lives years ago. I do not do the man on the street gotcha stuff. I was genuinely like, hey, I'm filming a vlog. Would you like to answer questions? 99% of people at this gun control rally, I said, can you tell me why you're here, what you're hoping to accomplish? What did they all say? We want to ban assault rifles. And then I asked them, that's interesting.
Starting point is 01:56:48 Are you aware that we actually did in the United States banned the production and sale of civilian use salt rifles in 1985. And currently, you can still buy them under something called the NFA. It's a tax. It takes up a few months to get, but it has to be pre-1925. There's very few of these. So effectively, that ban did pass. They all went, I didn't know that.
Starting point is 01:57:06 One lady actually had a sign and she folded it up. I showed her my phone. I was like, I'm not trying to get you. I'm generally curious. None of them had any idea what they were protesting for. That's hilarious. Now, sad. You know, I said 99% because there was one guy who was like,
Starting point is 01:57:18 I understand the NFA. I understand all that stuff. That's been done. these are challenges. His concern was he was like, look, you've got handguns with 17 rounds that kids are buying and we've got to figure out what to do. And I said, totally get it. Totally get it. Let's grab some more of these. Sever Sleets or sever slates. Did we see that the Seque War wants pitches from states to build new bases? State of the forces was great today. Yeah, and their own power sources too, I think that was something, right?
Starting point is 01:57:47 that and Palmer Lucky and Elon Musk are slotted to be the advisors or I forget what their actual title is but for advancing U.S. technology for the Department of War. Palmer Lucky. Dude, Palmer Lucky's awesome. I'm a big fan of that guy.
Starting point is 01:58:03 He's just, he just smack talks people on does his thing. He just doesn't care. I'm a big fan. Shadev says, Tim, Japan did not bring in their incompatible migrants because of their birth rates. it was a stipulation for accessing funds from the IMF and the World Bank. They didn't pick those individuals.
Starting point is 01:58:22 Interesting. I don't know that. Was not aware. Well, to dig that story up. That's interesting. All right. What do we have? I love you.
Starting point is 01:58:31 Lord says, Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth where moths and vermin destroy. Matthew 619. The one you just killed. It wasn't a moth. Oh, yeah, that's right. I'm sorry. I don't know what it was.
Starting point is 01:58:44 Is it goofy-looking little bug? It was a moth. It wasn't. I promise you. It has not a month. No. It looked like a lightning bug. Rube it. No. It was not. It was not. Go find it. It was over here. It was like tan, but I'm not sure what it was not a month. It was not a moff like. It was definitely not a moth. Yeah, it looked like it looked like it looked like it looked like it looked like. We got a bunch of goofy ass bugs in the building. Lantern flies and stink bugs. Yeah. It wasn't it was. It wasn't a stink bug. Definitely that. Yeah. Those are out. But it looked like it had it, its body looked more like a lightning bug. But so I don't know what kind of bug it was. We got a bunch of goofy bugs out there.
Starting point is 01:59:17 It's crazy. We actually have a war going on, and it's been going on for some time. It's really weird. Like, one day, they were a bunch of crickets in the ramps. And we were like, we got a cricket problem. Then all of a sudden we had a kettie-did problem. And it was like they kept cycling. Like the different bugs were going to war and taking over.
Starting point is 01:59:34 We had lady bugs. Yeah. Stinkbugs are coming in, though. Amazing. They're from China. All right, let's grab one more quick one. Marushia says, Tim, please look into the China show. China shows video exposing embassy-backed CCP sleeper cells and Chinese secret police assaulting people with impunity on U.S. soil during Xi's recent visit to D.C.
Starting point is 01:59:56 I like the China show's premise, but the guy's on it kind of just yuck it up a little more than I think that is my taste. We're going to go to the uncensored portion of the show. So smash the like button. Share the show with all your friends. You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast. Sir, would you like to shout anything out? Well, hey, no, thanks for having me. It's been great. I love the conversations, guys. Keep speaking truth, right? I think, yeah, you kind of people ask, okay, what's the solution? We talked about a lot of problems. It's easy to hit the problems. I really think people just know the truth and speak the truth. And I believe more than anything that if you know the truth, the truth will set you free. And so if we believe
Starting point is 02:00:32 in freedom, speak the truth. Yeah. Oh, yeah. So true. Where can be you find you? You can look me up on Google me. Don't believe everything you read about me. But and then, yeah, yeah, right. But the Micahekeback with on Twitter. And then, and then, And you can also go to Lieutenant Governor, Micahe Beckwith, and then anywhere, you know, just type my name in and social media, it'll come up. So let's go. Well, you can follow me on X and Instagram at Real Tate Brown,
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