Timcast IRL - J6 Pipe Bomb Suspect ARRESTED, Worked With BLM, Aided Illegal Immigrants w/ Naomi Seibt

Episode Date: December 5, 2025

Tim, Phil, Brett, & Raymond are joined by Naomi Seibt to discuss the J6 pipe bomber being arrested, Gen Z giving up on America and embracing socialism, people driving by Tim Walz' house and yelling "r...etard" and Nick Fuentes calling out Candace Owens for dodging TPUSA debate.   Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) Brett @PopCultureCrisis (everywhere) Raymond @raymondgstanley (X) Producer: Serge @SergeDotCom (everywhere) Guest: Naomi Seibt @NaomiSeibt (X) Naomi Seibt is a German political activist and influencer, best known as a "climate realist" and vocal critic of climate change activism, often dubbed the "Anti-Greta" for her opposition to Greta Thunberg.

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Starting point is 00:00:03 Ladies and gentlemen, for the past five years, a darkness has loomed over this country. After January 6th, this country was facing tumult, and I was scared. Someone had planted pipe bombs, the DNC and the RNC, and we didn't know who. We didn't know who. And this loomed over us every single day. You know, just the other day, I was talking to my wife. and she was asking me, are they ever going to find him? And I said, honey, I just don't know.
Starting point is 00:00:40 I don't know. And it had me scared for the future of my children and yours, to be honest, because I love you and I care about you. But this is the fear that has taken over this country in the past several years. Today, thanks to the hard and diligent work of my good friend, Cash Patel and Dan Bongino, good friends. We got them. They arrested the J6 pipe bomber and now we can sleep easy. I saw that news and I said to my wife, honey, it's going to be okay. And that's when I realized we were gone places. This country was coming back, baby. A DOJ that was taking these problems
Starting point is 00:01:24 seriously, criminals would no longer go free. And then Pete Hegseth blew up another narco boat and we cracked the champagne. I hope you're all deeply entertained. Apparently this guy that they've arrested, everyone's calling Erkel, because he looks like Steve Erkel, which no one saw this one coming. They were reports that came out through the blaze that the individual may be this capital police woman, but, but she had an alibi. Someone recorded a video for playing with puppies, which of course proves everything. Although, to be honest, there are now several people saying, yeah, no way this guy's really the person, and they think this is all a hoax. I don't know. We'll We'll talk about that and I'll pretend to be distressed and try to make the show as dramatic as possible for your entertainment.
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Starting point is 00:04:02 We're going places, ladies and gentlemen. Hey, maybe one day pool water will be available for you in your nearest grocery store, which I doubt, but, you know, here's dreaming. Don't forget to smash that light button, my friends. Share the show with everyone you know and even your grandma. Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Naomi Saiped. Hi. Thank you for having me.
Starting point is 00:04:22 Oh, who are you? What do you do? Yeah, so I'm the first German asylum seeker under President Trump because I have been under intelligence surveillance for the past years since probably 2019 around. So when I was just 19 years old, I had no idea was such a threat to the German government. They recognized this way earlier than me. And I found out just this year
Starting point is 00:04:39 that they had actually been intercepting my communications, WhatsApp, signal, telegram, everything. I found out about this from an American ex-Army intelligence guy who basically became my whistleblower and he said that they actually contacted American intelligence to get access
Starting point is 00:04:56 to all these secrets that I had, which was just private communications with my families. And it's ironic because they had so much, so many chances to find something damning on me, but apparently they couldn't find anything because they still had to make up lies about me. They've been trying to defame me in the media. They've been trying to put me in jail for a post that I made on X. I am currently being investigated for a post that I made, yes. Now I'm applying for asylum to finally break free from this tyranny in Germany because I am in support of the
Starting point is 00:05:27 currently democratically most popular party in Germany, the AFD party, which is essentially just a MAGA equivalent in Germany. And our government want to try to shut them down, even though they are the most popular party. So who's really the threat to democracy in Germany? And I'm very excited to be here because I've been a fan of this show since I started my own social media thing, very small in Germany in like 2019 or earlier. Yeah. Well, it's great to have you. Can you do me a favor real quick? Can you just repeat these words?
Starting point is 00:05:54 Tim, they're trying to kill you. Can you say that? Tim, they're trying to kill you. Oh, my God. Ladies and gentlemen, I have just been informed by a very credible source that the German government has actually acted upon a plot against my life. I am now informing the White House and the federal government that they are trying to kill me and I may die.
Starting point is 00:06:16 But this weekend, the German B&D after you. This weekend, the show is going to be off the air. And as an update, I will be informing the FBI of this very credible. plot against me. All of that is technically true, you know. So anyway, how are you doing, Raymond? I am excellent, Tim. That opening today was, I'm so emotional. I'm so glad that your family and all of our futures are safe because they cut the J6 bomber. But I'm Raymond G. Stanley Jr. I'm the resident of Blue Collier here, United States Marine Corps veteran. Ms. Naomi, look forward to talking with you here. Mr. Brett. Yeah, it's crazy. My wife was also just asking me when they were going to
Starting point is 00:06:52 catch the J6 bomber. So it's crazy that happened. Guys, one's wife does. It's once a week she checks online for news updates and when they don't get them. She comes to me and complains because she's scared. That's what happens. Guys, Brett here, pop culture crisis normally Monday through Friday, 3 p.m. Eastern Standard Time, which is noon Pacific. We will be back again live starting next week. She'll join us. But Phil, how you doing?
Starting point is 00:07:14 Hello, everybody. My name is Philibonte. I'm the lead singer, the heavy metal band All That Remains. I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary. Let's get into it. Here's the story from Mediites revealed the first pictures emerge of the deep. DNC and RNC pipe bomb suspect. And wait, what?
Starting point is 00:07:30 When I first saw this photo, I said, y'all trolling. I think it was Jessica in the other. No, no, who was it? Was it? I think it was Jessica. She pulled it up. And they were like, oh, yeah, the DC pipe bomber was a black dude. And I was like, oh, wow, I didn't see that one.
Starting point is 00:07:43 You know, we all thought it was that white woman. And then when they post the picture, I was like, very funny guys. You're trolling. No, that's actually what the guy looks like. And his name is Brian Cole. He's apparently a 30-year-old. He was arrested. he's the suspect.
Starting point is 00:07:57 I don't know what evidence they have just yet. According to the U.S. Attorney's Office, he's being charged with, quote, transporting an explosive device in interstate commerce with the intent to kill, injure, or intimidate any individual or unlawfully to damage or destroy any building, vehicle or other real or personal property, and with attempted malicious destruction by means of fire and explosive materials. Wow. We have the press release here from the DOJ. They say, Ryan J. Cole, Jr., of Woodbridge, Virginia, was arrested this morning and charged for transporting and planting two improvised explosive devices on January 5th, 2021 at the headquarters of both the Republican National Committee and the Democratic National Committee in Washington, D.C. They say the well-being of society rests on their ability of law enforcement to safeguard our citizens, et cetera, et cetera. Well, here's what's interesting. This guy ran a bail bond's company to free illegal immigrants, sued the Trump DHS.
Starting point is 00:08:50 and worked with a Black Lives Matter lawyer. Sounds like this was an anti-Trumper lefty who was angry at Donald Trump. I don't understand what the motivation is for planting these pipe bombs, however. But if you were anti-Trump and you were trying to, I don't know, frame him and his supporters, perhaps that's the motivation. I mean, it's, I don't know. We'll see how this actually pans out. they had the other woman they had they considered a person of interest. I haven't had a chance to dig into this to see what kind of evidence they have on this guy.
Starting point is 00:09:26 So I mean, look, if he's if he's the guy, great. You know, I mean, it's nice to see the DOJ actually making arrests. So hopefully that it is him. But, you know, I'm kind of a wait and see or I'm kind of the waiting. Feels very on par with the U.S. government for something to take four plus years to get anything done. I mean, we talk about, you know, people talk about how they feel like things aren't getting done. And I continuously say, look, the government's slow and the government's sloppy a lot of times. But the reason that they move at the pace that they move is because if they arrest someone and they don't have all their eyes dotted and their T's crossed and they actually have the guy, they're going to end up having to let him go.
Starting point is 00:10:05 And that's worse than taking a long time. Yeah, I heard that when they went and arrested him at his house, he asked, did I do that? Ah. Hey. Yeah, there's also a story that, and we'll talk about it in a bit, that they're not going to be re-inditing Letitia James. So this is all just, I don't know, it all seems like. Who was the other lady that they said, the one that was the suspect before? Who was that lady?
Starting point is 00:10:31 I don't remember her name. There was like, they were saying like the evidence was like that she's, like, she's bent down to pick something up. That was what I was saying. What was it? Yeah. So the evidence they had that she was. The person was gait analysis. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:44 What I said was, I believe the pipe bomber was a woman because men tend not to bend down at the hips. They bend at the knee. It's because of women's center of gravity, they're more likely to bend down at the hip, which this, what this person does. So, look, I'm not the only one. I don't know. I'm not going to pretend to, I don't think the FBI is wrong, but I don't necessarily just trust the FBI, whoever's running it. But Kyle Serafin said, sorry, no of this is legit. I have videos of this man playing with his puppy's.
Starting point is 00:11:12 five years ago. He has a rock-solid alibi. Gate analysis is not real. This story is fake news. So what was published before is that it couldn't have been this woman because she has videos of her playing with puppies, which is like the stupidest thing I've ever heard because that's not evidence or an alibi of anything. Like someone, I recorded a video of Phil juggling
Starting point is 00:11:32 that proves he wasn't here on this date. No, it doesn't. Can't even juggle. But you can't even prove a date based on a video. That makes no sense. What is she standing in front of a calendar? I just put a fake calendar in front of her. Or if they have the... A old one. Wait, you mean if they have the actual video from it, wouldn't the metadata? No, because metadata can be faked very easily.
Starting point is 00:11:49 Ridiculously easily. You just change the date on the device you're using. Like you get a camcorder and you set the date wrong and then film it. Like, oh, look at that. The metadata on the digital file says the date. So there's no way for the video to exonerate. Exonerator. Yeah, no way.
Starting point is 00:12:06 I mean, not today's day and age. To be like, I have a video. If there's a video, I suppose it could be like surveillance, video owned by someone else that's like logged in a security system that that's fine but how the other question i've like wasn't this person out of like midnight like one a m yeah she was so the idea is like she was playing with puppies and like a and like a lobby somewhere right but maybe i mean i mean to be honest maybe that's just the way they reported it and she's actually like in a lobby and that the hotel had security footage you know i don't want to make it sound too stupid like that one guy who claimed he went
Starting point is 00:12:39 to a parking lot and this proves turning point was sending money to a parking lot and this proves turning point was sending money to a parking lot because I understand what an LLC file to a mailboxes. At the UPS store. Right. So I don't want to play conspiratorial games, although maybe our viewership would be a lot better if I just used vagaries and acted like everything was a conspiracy.
Starting point is 00:12:55 Everything is a conspiracy. It's always. Everyone's out to get you all the time. It's right. Well, the federal government has an unbelievable track record with prosecutions right. They almost never lose if they choose to prosecute. 98% or so. It is true, but the argument is that it's because they only take cases they know they can win. So that just means
Starting point is 00:13:13 they let criminals go all the time. Yeah, I mean, that's true. And it speaks to the fact that prosecutors aren't actually motivated by finding the person that committed a crime or, you know, making sure that the streets are safe. They're basically political actors and they want to make sure that they have the highest conviction rate that they possibly can.
Starting point is 00:13:31 So that way, when they come up for some kind of appointment or some kind of promotion, they can say, look at how great my record is. It doesn't speak to how well they're actually serving the community. it speaks to they're making sure that the people that they select to prosecute are actually, you know, they have them, have them debt to rights. And it sets a basis for them down the road. They sets a precedent. So down the road, they're like, okay, every time we get someone to arrest someone, they're at 95%, 90%, 96%.
Starting point is 00:13:58 Yeah, I mean, they're, you know, the audience, the people in the world are like, okay, so they're definitely guilty because the feds are so good at what they do. I mean, yeah, but like I said, I think it's more about politics and personal achievement. they want to be able to say, oh, hey, I'm this successful, and it's not actually representative of whether or not they're finding criminals, whether or not they're serving the community, whether or not they're making their community safer. It's about they're selective in the prosecutions. It's kind of like the opposite end of the spectrum of saying, like crime is down in the city, but it's because they choose not to prosecute anybody. Yeah, like they do in D.C. or report it. Yeah. They've been doing that in a lot of cities, if I understand correctly.
Starting point is 00:14:33 Yeah, I don't know. It's all relatively black pilling. I suppose this story is, it should be a white bill. I mean, they, they may have caught the pipe bomber. They've arrested this person. We're learning the motivations. This person appears to be anti-Trump or whatever. So I don't know. I don't have high hopes for the Trump administration and Republicans.
Starting point is 00:14:54 And I'm not convinced they're going to get on message to actually win an election. It does feel like everything's just broken apart. And, you know, where that leads us, I honestly don't know. Well, there's also, there's like no faith in institutions. anymore. So when something like this happens, immediately half the population is conspiratorial and the other half just doesn't trust the government anyways. You don't have that finality anymore that used to exist when people had faith in the government. It's true, but there's no benefit personally for coming out and saying, yeah, I really agree that they got the guy. I think this is it and good for
Starting point is 00:15:27 them and blah, blah. There's no social benefit for that. Like if you're on social media and you say that, the first reply is going to be like, oh yeah, you just believe everything the FBI says. You know, So the skepticism is that people kind of have nowadays. It's almost like a defense mechanism. So that way they're not getting criticized. Nobody wants to be wrong. Yeah. Like nobody wants to get caught being wrong because the worst thing you can be now
Starting point is 00:15:49 is to be seen as a fool because you believe something that ended up not being true or you thought somebody was going to be guilty of something. Then they ended up not being guilty. So people just hedge their bets and don't. I, not. And if you're skeptical, like, no one's going to go and look back six months to see if you said something and we're wrong. I mean, look at the Ian Carroll stuff about RFK, right?
Starting point is 00:16:09 Nobody's going back and talking about that. He said that there was a big scandal coming and had him dead to rights, and there were a bunch of people that were talking about it for a new cycle or two. Nothing is materialized. This is the reality of humanity, I suppose, is that, you know, people don't, people are typically socially driven. They want to fit in more than anything else. And so you do have this great period of contrarian values, I suppose. Maybe contrarians are not the right word.
Starting point is 00:16:36 but the Trump movement, people basically saying, I'm not going to fall in line to this weird stuff you want me to do. And I don't think it's necessarily because people felt that Trump was right. It was that Democrats wanted them to do something that they didn't feel comfortable doing. So the Democrats tried to move the Overton window too quickly when they did. It dropped a bunch of people off that platform. Those people are sitting there being like, I'm not going to call a man and woman. They would have, due to social pressure, if it was done more slowly, in my opinion.
Starting point is 00:17:04 I think most people would. And the evidence for this is where we currently are with a Republican Party that is now pro-gay marriage, that there are trans and gay Republicans that do advocacy for the GOP. That shows tremendously the Overton window has shifted, and traditional Republican values are long gone. And what we have now is just more of a populist movement that includes conservatives that are moderate and accepting of gay marriage and transgender individuals. Not completely, but a bit. Now imagine the Republican Party 20 years. ago. There's no way. They weren't even for gay marriage. Yeah. And that was oh, go ahead. I said neither were for the Democrats.
Starting point is 00:17:41 But for the white pill of this, Cash Patel did switch out the leadership on the FBI on this J6 pipe bombing team. He put in new guys because the old team wasn't doing anything good. So he's putting in these new guys on his team that he wants in there and they finally, you know, they found him. So they've been working on
Starting point is 00:17:57 this for four years. You put in new people and they felt that's, that's... Yes. Anything screams insiniscorial. That's scary. You know, I think the sad reality that anybody, if you're interested in truth and what's really going on, the problem is you're going to find that most people are not. And this is, you know, we're seeing this right now largely with the drama around Candace, of course, and Turning Point USA. We see it in the Democratic Party. People just want to be a part of the crowd. And they'll, and they're going to, so if you say
Starting point is 00:18:29 something that contradicts their worldview, and this is how it's always been, said it before, I'll say it again, that they're going to abandon you. They're going to say, okay, you're no longer in line with the world that I want to be. So it's not about what is true. Certainly, there are things that Joe Biden did that I was like, okay, that's fine. You know, he wanted to get rid of credit card, ATM, or overdraft fees or whatever. But there are people that were just no matter what Trump does, it's wrong. Now, what I will say is this is a tendency on the right and it's a rule on the left.
Starting point is 00:18:56 And that's typically why you find a lot of moderates aligned with conservatives. Now I would say everything's completely shattered. and it's not just Candice, but she kind of just is the avatar of it. But there are this general maga rift between, you know, as you mentioned, like Ian Carroll saying, there's a bunch of things, there's nothing. People really want to exist in this conspiracy space for some reason. I suppose it gives them a sense of almost purpose. You know, as woke fades away as the collective enemy, there isn't one and there needs to be one.
Starting point is 00:19:32 And so groups are trying to find who their enemy is, and they'll take whatever they can get. And then you end up with, I guess right now, a bunch of weird stories that don't add up or make sense. And my favorite example is this dude making a video where he's like, why is turning point giving $1.4 million to a parking lot? And everyone's like, bro, it's a UPS store. It's an LLC registered to a mailbox. But he's lying intentionally because it generates views. And these people, it's the conspiracy world they want to live in. Well, it's a side effect of the creator economy, right?
Starting point is 00:20:02 Like the one thing that you have to have when you're in this space is you have to be You have to be moving towards something you have to have a rally and cry you have to have something that you're working towards So you can build an audience because they want to feel like they're connecting with you working towards something It's actually it's a good joke on our channel where I'm like I'm not here to sell you anything Literally I'm just trying to help you kill a couple hours of time today But the thing is like that's actually counterintuitive to what works in these spaces because most of the time It's you're fighting against a company you're fighting against a government you're fighting against an ideology and stuff like that. And for a lot of people, they're just creating, you know, whether it's Ian Carroll or Candice
Starting point is 00:20:37 Owens, they've got whoever that they're going against right now. And that's just what works in this space. I generally think this is a positive thing, though. You just mentioned black pilling. I actually think it's necessary because we need somebody to hold the Republican Party or any sort of movement on the right accountable. Because otherwise, we're just going to be this uniform movement. I mean, I'm not a Republican. I'm from Germany. But still, I mean, I observe what's going on in the right-wing movement. And I think it's crucial that we establish some form of individualism so we can keep these conversations going, these discussions going. And you're totally right that it's a problem that we constantly need to have some form of enemy and it shouldn't be this way because it's a big
Starting point is 00:21:15 distraction. And I think it's on purpose. It's kind of like a big psyop, whoever is starting this, whoever is behind this. But as long as we keep the conversation going, as long as we don't censor anyone, because I think that was the biggest threat pre-Trump. Everybody was censored who said anything that went against the establishment against the mainstream narrative, which unfortunately was the most horrific things like child abuse, literally child abuse. That was becoming a mainstream thing. And we're now going in the other direction and now in the other direction. We're now realizing that we still have a lot of differences because that's what defines us. We are individualists. And I think that's a positive thing in a way because it just shows that we shouldn't,
Starting point is 00:21:55 we should never get comfortable with any government. My question to you would be, what do you think would be a positive direction? Do you see a positive direction? Do you see a and you hope for the next administration, and who should it be? I would say there's a toss-up right now. I mean, J.D. Vance seems to be the guy, and he's been doing an amazing job. You know, look, Trump says he wants the prices of houses to stay stable. He says H-1Bs. He says all these things.
Starting point is 00:22:17 And, of course, that pisses off Gen Z, who are freaking out. J.D. Vance comes out with better messaging saying, no, no, no, we've got to get the prices of houses down. He pushes back on a lot of the establishment shills. he's willing to be aggressive, but he's got a bit more, I don't know, inline decorum than Trump does. So I'm fairly optimistic on JD-Vance. The issue that I see largely right now is now that there's no unified enemy, the right doesn't seem to be focused on what they're fighting for. So for a while, it's, you know, it really does feel like right now the issue was Trump comes
Starting point is 00:22:54 out and says, I want to do great things. And a lot of people got behind him because the machine. was against him. Now that the machine is largely routed and, you know, the bud light failing a couple years ago and all the things afterwards, now people are kind of like, well, I don't know, you know, this is it, Nick Fuentes is Tucker Carlson. My view of it is kind of people were supporting Trump and the things behind Trump more so because the left was attacking Trump. Now that the left is largely destroyed, the right is splitting up and pointing in random directions. And instead of saying, hey, guys, we've got an immigration fight to complete. You have the principal faction
Starting point is 00:23:33 that is still very much Trump can do no wrong, and the media attacking him is the deep state, things like this. But then you get this other faction that is anti-Trump. You know, Nick Fuentes is not a big Trump guy. He wants to unite with the left. You have this growing group that is largely just anti-Israel. They found a new enemy. This is the enemy. It's the true enemy. And so I'm sitting here being like, are we actually focused on winning? for any particular reason, it seems like the right is broken up into a bunch of different pieces, and there is no unified vision of what post-mid terms or post-208 should be looking like. Because there would be too, that's literally too many things to name, right?
Starting point is 00:24:14 Is it immigration? Is it the price of groceries? Is it Israel? There's too many different things for people to consider the problem for everybody to unite around how to fix it. When it was the left, it was that. It was everything is encompassed under the left's rule. it's a bunch of issues that just largely affect all Americans, and they don't have a way of aiming that in a specific direction. I think the best way to be successful is to focus on things like the economy and immigration. Those are two things that the economy, definitely everybody can be, can get behind the idea of we need to have a booming economy.
Starting point is 00:24:49 We need to have an economy that's successful because it's the only way we can manage the debt. I don't know that we can even fix the debt problem that we have, but we're certainly not going to be able to manage it unless we're being unless we have a vibrant growing economy and you're talking about like to be realistic it's going to have to be really really booming three four percent to actually control the situation with the with the with the with the debt um and i think immigration is something that most americans get behind as well when trump was running it was a 75 percent agreed about immigration something like that it was it was super high and now maybe it's lower because
Starting point is 00:25:26 people see, you know, ice on social media. They see people protesting. And so maybe they're getting a little squishy. But it's still a winner for the Republican Party. So if they focus on those two things, I think immigration and the economy are actual winners. And everything else I think is honestly a distraction. The fact that people are paying attention to all this stuff, I think is because they don't see the results in the economy or in immigration. Even though immigration, you know, the Department of Homeland Security would say that there's been two million people.
Starting point is 00:25:56 that have deported and been self-deported since Donald Trump took office, which is cool. It's not enough, obviously, but it's cool. That still doesn't satisfy the people that are like, you know, nothing ever gets fixed. So let's jump to the story. We've got this from Harvard, actually. It's the Harvard Youth Poll. And this story is big because Gen Z is largely giving up. What they find is that Gen Z has defined their generation by financial, political, and
Starting point is 00:26:21 interpersonal instability. It's a defining feature of daily life-shaping their outlook on the country. and their own futures. And right now, 57% of Gen Z think the country is on the wrong track. This includes younger conservatives who are not pro-Trump. Not all of these guys are Groyper's, but certainly those that are not in favor of what Trump is doing. So what does this country look like with 80 million, well, it's about 78 million Gen Z who don't like Trump, they don't like Democrats, what does that become in 10 years when these people are going
Starting point is 00:26:56 be in their late 30s. They're going to be going to their 40s in 10 years. Right now, I think what oldest Gen Z is about 27, 28 years old. So this is, they are entering the peak of their lives, where they should have families and homes,
Starting point is 00:27:12 and what are they doing? Living with their parents? Will you ever have a young generation that agrees with the government? I think it's a very natural evolvement of people in this kind of age group, where they just have to be contrarians and they don't like what's going on and the government, I think, as they grow into
Starting point is 00:27:28 naturally into more conservative values and starting to think about having a family and actually being more comfortable in life and asking for more security in your stable living conditions, that often makes them more united in a more
Starting point is 00:27:44 conservative fashion. So I think it's this kind of rebellious phase in a way. I also understand why they do feel so insecure. I mean, the economy is terrible. And that has a huge impact, especially on the younger generations. And as soon as they feel that these issues, especially those who are tending more towards the left, they're asking for higher taxes because it doesn't impact them. They don't
Starting point is 00:28:07 have to worry about it. So I think these issues, I think they will tend more towards the middle as they grow older. But at the same time, like I mentioned before, they will form their own movement, but it doesn't necessarily have to be completely opposite to what Trump is currently promoting or what we stood for during the time that we have been promoting the right for the past years. I think it's going to repeat itself or at least rhyme itself with what we were promoting. So I don't think it's something that we have to be scared of. I think it's more something where we have to guide the younger generation. I would like to be more of a voice for the younger generation rather than somebody who condemns them and demonizes them. Right. But the problem is the Trump
Starting point is 00:28:47 administration needs to win, or I shouldn't say the Republicans win elections in the United States through older voters. Younger voters, not only is the younger demographic smaller than the older demographic because people weren't having kids, but the older demographic is more likely to vote in general. So you've got two problems. If you go to the boomers, which is going to be the most active voting block for 2026 and say, we need to get the price of homes down. They're going to go, whoa, whoa, whoa, that's where all my money is. Yeah. If my home goes down in value, I lose my retirement. If you go out and say, we're going to make the prices of homes go up, then the young people are like, well, I'm screwed. And I think that's the move they're making. Politicians in
Starting point is 00:29:28 United States are basically saying, always favor the old. Social security can never be touched. Young people are saying, I'm being taxing and I believe it, and I have no money, and I don't get that. Don't let prices drop on houses because old people have, the boomers have three houses. not all of them, but around 75% of boomers own homes and many of them own more than one. So it's always going to favor this and they're going to live longer. So Gen Z, I think that's why we see this data. They're basically saying you have built a system to extract from us and we will never see that value again. Yeah, the wages have stopped going up.
Starting point is 00:30:04 There's a stagnation when it comes to the way that they can make money. And then they've taken out $200,000 in student loan debt, which then pushes them back into favor of the government. If you're pushing back against the government now, the government has found a way to reinstitute itself in your life no matter what, even if you're successful. Even if you get a job making a good amount of money, you're still in debt slavery. There's no way out. So when I see this and they say interpersonal instability, you've got social media apps that are destroying social interaction. You've got a financial crisis going back to COVID. I mean, technically even before that when they were little kids.
Starting point is 00:30:42 and they can't own homes. I don't think any of this is a condemnation of Gen Z. I don't. I think it's most people now, especially millennials, they look at what's happening to Gen Z. And they're like, I can absolutely see. Because we saw the beginning of that with the financial crisis in 2008. It's like people talk a lot about how people in these spaces condemn Gen Z. I don't think that's what it is.
Starting point is 00:31:02 I think most people look at the nihilism that's coming from a lot of American Gen Z's. And they say that makes perfect sense to me. But it feels in a lot of ways, like they feel like it was, orchestrated by the government post 2008 to actually create the situation that we're in now. Yeah, I mean, look, the government is responsible for a significant portion of this, whether it be the incentivizing people that didn't have the funds or the credit rating to buy homes before the housing market crash or the way that they've handled the economy since. They spent 10 years just printing money, doing quantitative easing, which is the main driver
Starting point is 00:31:38 of income inequality that people feel. They feel like they don't have as much money and they feel like the rich are getting richer and the poor getting poor. And they generally are because when you print up money, rich people get access to that money first. They can borrow against either their home or what have you and they can invest that money in the stock market, which is why the stock market has gone up so dramatically in the past 10 years. They borrowed money at a super low rate, put the money in the stock market, made themselves a bunch of money. And then if you have people that are poor or don't have anything, if they get their hands, on money, the first thing they're doing is trying to pay bills, pay for their groceries, and where does that money go?
Starting point is 00:32:15 Goes to the people that own the grocery stores. It goes to the people that own things. So this wealth transfer that we've seen in the past 10, 15 years, it's all because of government policy. And COVID too. Pardon me? The wealth transfer over COVID too. Yeah, but COVID was the same thing.
Starting point is 00:32:29 You know, it's like people got, when the government just printed up money and they gave it to people, people that didn't have any kind of assets or whatever, they spent that money and where did that money go? Again, it went to Jeff Bezos because they were buying things on it. Amazon. So if you get free money from the government, and even if Jeff Bezos doesn't get it, the billionaires get it anyways because they're the ones that own things and you're going to buy the services and products that they're selling. And not even just like people that own businesses, it was the billionaires because your mom and pop shops were shut down and you were only allowed
Starting point is 00:33:00 to get stuff from Walmart or from Amazon. Yeah. A never-ending problem in politics is that it's just naturally not future-oriented because you're only going to be in office for so long. so it's not a delayed gratification type of industry at all. And I think that's going to upset a lot of young people who maybe some of them are not even voters yet and maybe some of them are just starting to vote, but they are just in the minority out of all the voters. And that typically draws them more towards the left,
Starting point is 00:33:26 I think, because they're going to get very frustrated if we don't interact with them. So I think something that would be very important for us, like as a community, as a society would be to promote more future thinking. And I guess the most important person who has been doing this for the past years is Elon Musk, who thinks,
Starting point is 00:33:41 very far ahead. We think about us going to Mars in the very far future. I think that's a bit too far for politics. But generally just promoting more family values and also for older people or even just our generation, honestly, to think about the future generations, which are our children
Starting point is 00:33:57 and making, creating more of this community between younger generations and older generations again because I think currently there's actually a big age war in politics. Well yeah, I see in the United States when we point out that boomers
Starting point is 00:34:12 75% own homes and many of those people own multiple homes they get angry. Not all boomers but we'll get a lot of responses being like, don't blame us. I worked for it and I deserve it. I've heard from tons of boomers and they say, hey, I worked for my security. I deserve it. And it's just like, yes, but in order to pay for it,
Starting point is 00:34:29 like you paid someone else and Gen Z is now working to pay you and Gen Z's never going to see that money. And those boomers that have multiple homes, they locked in an interest rate of 2, 3%, And now if you want to go buy a home, it's going to be six, seven percent. And that's a huge amount of money over the course of a 30-year loan. So the idea that people, you know, the boomers are like, oh, you know, don't be mad at me, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:34:51 I mean, look, you're going to have people saying this is not fair. You know, this is not fair that I can't afford a home, that I can't get that interest rate that you got. You got this super sweet deal because the government was doing everything they can to keep interest rates down and keep them low because they were pumping up the stock market. And again, you can't stress this enough. they did it for 10, 15 years. You had super, super low interest rates. And then COVID came. And because of the inflation with COVID,
Starting point is 00:35:18 they had to jack up the interest rates. And like young people are totally screwed because of this. And boomers need to relax on their nihilism. Like they need to start caring. We need start caring because we have under 30% of under 30-year-olds, 8% of people are leaning Republican. They're not getting, they're not into the Republican Party. They don't care about it.
Starting point is 00:35:37 So the old folks, boomers who have the money, you guys can start thinking about you're going to die what are you going to do your money you're going to die so you need you start caring about with the young kids and give them opportunities and just show them that you care that be might be might get more folks or going to come to I'm not sure exactly how you do that though like what is what is it what is it that boomers are supposed to do to indicate care and first of all what are they supposed to do to indicate that they care second of all right like what is it that they could materially do to help young people. You know, I mean, if they've got a, if they've got a mortgage at, you know, a low rate and
Starting point is 00:36:12 they're trying to rent it out, but young people don't have the money to rent it out, they're, they still have a mortgage that they have to cover. They can't go ahead and be like, well, I'll lose money on my, or at least they're not going to say, I'll lose money on my, on my rental property. So that way you have a place to live. Even the system that they were born into doesn't really exist anymore because they went to college for much cheaper, but that's not their fault that they went to college for much cheaper in now because the government got involved in student loans. The price of going to college has been jacked up exponentially and there's no way for the newer generations to actually feasibly have a good life because if there are a lot of these companies now,
Starting point is 00:36:49 they've been sold off to major corporations which put ridiculous rules in place for how people are hired and people just get, you know, they get basically removed from the job market entirely, whether it's through H-1B visas or the fact that you need to have five years experience for an entry-level job and stuff like that. It's literally designed to fail, but that isn't necessarily the fault of the generation that came before them, other than the ones who sold their companies to larger companies, which then put these rules into place. You don't see a lot of things in the way of, you know, paid, like internships or mentoring programs in the same way that they used to. It doesn't work that way anymore. And when the, and then millennials or Gen Z get angry when
Starting point is 00:37:29 the, when a boomer says to you, you know what, go up to him and shake his hand and look him in the eye and hand them your resume and make sure it's printed out on good card stock and stuff like that. It's not really their fault that that advice doesn't work anymore, but it's just it just further kind of reinforces the divide between all the generations. It's a double-edged sword nowadays for young people because young people are doing more staying at home. They don't interact with people. They don't have social skills the way that you did say that people did generally 20, 30,
Starting point is 00:37:55 four years ago. And one of the most effective ways to find a job is knowing people, networking with people. So if you're not very charismatic, you can't hold a conversation with someone, you don't know where to go to meet people, you know, you don't have particularly good interpersonal skills, and you have to have your mom come with you to your interview, right? And you, you're not going to get the job. You're just not. And if you don't know a lot of people, opportunities are going to slip by. And so one of the best kind of best advice you can give to young people is to break out of that kind of the, the, the, cycle of staying home, not going out, not meeting people. And as, as distasteful as it might seem, go to job fairs. And even if they're not jobs that you're particularly interested in, the more you're out among people and talk to people, the better your chances of finding some kind of job. And people are going to go ahead and poop with that idea. But I tell you what, it's a way better idea than sitting at home on social media and scrolling through TikTok because
Starting point is 00:39:00 you're not going to find any work on your couch. It's an even better idea than going to college. And I mean that generally, I do not encourage anyone in there, like who just graduated from high school to go to college now. And I say that as someone, I graduated with the highest degree that you can, the highest grade that you can get in high school in Germany. And in Germany, it's even more standardized that you kind of have to go to university. Otherwise, you're kind of failed past.
Starting point is 00:39:24 And then you don't make it at all in Germany. And everybody told me you have to go to university because otherwise you're wasting your great grades. And I hated it. I didn't want to go to college. I didn't want to go to university. This was my dream in middle school. And then after high school, I realized this is just the same, honestly horrible system.
Starting point is 00:39:44 It's just so it failed so many young people. And now people are getting out of college who just went in the past years. And now they're realizing, oh, AI is taking over. So my degree is useless now. So what am I going to do now? So you need to be in tune with what's, currently happening in the entire job world and you cannot live in the real world while you're going to college or university. And it's a big problem. I think you need to be updated in everything
Starting point is 00:40:11 that's going on on social media in the media and understand what actually matters to the world because the whole idea of becoming an entrepreneur is you need to understand what are the problems, the real problems of people so you can solve them. You need to make yourself useful. By going to college, you're just seeking good grades in something that nobody cares about. Nobody cares about your grades. You have to be useful to society. Yeah, yeah, that's a great point. The idea that you can, that you're owed a job or that just because of your existing, you know, in the United States, you should be able to find a job. You need to be useful. That's a great point. This is a challenge for Gen Z. And every generation, except for, I think, Gen X had some great challenge. Although, to be
Starting point is 00:40:55 fair, I think Gen X had with the financial crisis hitting them right at like the peaks of their careers, many losing a lot of what they worked for. You can, you can see the charts on corporate equities and homeownership when the 2008 crash happened. Gen X got eviscerated. But that being said, I was talking about this earlier with this great clip from Fight Club where Brad Pitt's character says that there's, you know, Tyler Darden, we have no great war. You know, we have no great struggle or whatever. Every generation has some kind of struggle and Gen Z has. this one right now. The question is, are they going to rise to the challenge? And how will they do it? Are they going to go leftists and say, just tax everybody and burn it down? I'll extract what I can
Starting point is 00:41:34 from these people. Or are they going to be the, I'm going to go out and find my own way within the system? I don't think that's what it is. I don't think the school, I don't think that the educational system that they've been raised on teaches people to actually create jobs for themselves. It mostly teaches you to be a worker for somebody else. Not everybody has the desire to be an entrepreneur to go out and create the economy for themselves. Now, that's possible that eventually if it's, if it comes to that, there's no other options, you know, kind of feet held to the fire. Maybe that ends up being what happens to you.
Starting point is 00:42:05 But most people aren't entrepreneurs. They're people that work best going into a job. And most people seek out the security of having a job rather than creating money for themselves. It reminds me something that Asman Gold says a lot. You know, there are some people that are born to take big rocks and make them into smaller rocks. That's about all they can do. I was at this local politician party a long time ago.
Starting point is 00:42:27 And there was some wealthy dude there who said some people, someone has to work at McDonald's, you know. And that's how a lot of these people view the world. The issue is right now McDonald's doesn't pay enough so that you can live a life. And it used to be that working at McDonald's was something a 16-year-old did. And then it was a summer job where you got paid a little bit, saved up money, but lived with your parents. And then when you got older and got out of high school, you got to trade. or a better job. But I think the system
Starting point is 00:42:54 that we've built over the last hundred years is a lie. It used to be that you learned from your parents. Then we industrialized this system. And then we tried to institutionalize this system
Starting point is 00:43:05 with college. But some people are just meant to turn big rocks into small rocks. They're never going to learn how to run computer systems or run
Starting point is 00:43:14 businesses. And how do you then navigate this system? I honestly don't know. Well, it's like when you hear entrepreneurs talk about the business. They talk about their, it's an obsession of theirs, right? They think about it every
Starting point is 00:43:26 minute of every day. It's the most important thing in the world to them. And it oftentimes will end up being to the detriment of other avenues of their life. And most people just don't have that in them to live that way. I know that's not the way that I see the world, right? Like, it would be very hard for me to live that way. So I can't condemn people because they're not built in a way that's designed to run, you know, to live your life like that when most people aren't. But we are slowly moving towards a world where that's what's going to happen. Now, you could say that the creator economy on social media has actually created many entrepreneurs out of people in Gen Z and Gen Alpha, the ones who go out and they work for
Starting point is 00:44:03 themselves by making social media content. That is a form of industriousness that's probably more natural to them than it is to prior generations. Yeah, I mean, but not everybody can make content that's, you know, I mean, that's my point. This is, you know, yeah, this is the, it goes for every job, right? everyone can do every job out there. It's like it goes back to the thing we talk about where people are not just cogs that you can replace one person and have have them do the same exact job as someone else. But it is worth saying that, you know, the people that find some kind of
Starting point is 00:44:36 niche that they're good at, people that go out and try a bunch of different things, that's, those are the people that are most likely to be successful, at least to some degree. Well, you've actually said that here when you said when we talk about hiring for these types of shows, right? You said most of the people, it's very hard. to hire people to do on-camera stuff because most people, if they can do it, they're going to do it on their own because they're built that way. Well, right now I just think Gen Z is a generation that has been raised with the least education, I think is the way I'd put it.
Starting point is 00:45:11 So there, I think, there's not a condemnation of any individual, but I think the people who raised Gen Z, which is largely Gen X, did not instill within their children an understanding of the world how to make money, how to operate, and worse than the previous generations before. Millennials are really, really bad. Gen Z isn't necessarily as bad. They may be very similar to millennials, but millennials are really bad too, constantly complaining, voting for communists. And every generation before is to blame.
Starting point is 00:45:45 You know, it's funny when people say they want to repeal the 19th Amendment, and I'm like, blame the politicians back then who allowed it. I mean, every generation has committed some kind of political act that resulted in where we are today. And I think this is a natural ebb and flow. Strong times make, or I'm sorry, hard times make strong men. Strong men make good times. Good times make weak men. Weak men make hard times. Strauss out generational theories. Saddle up boys because it's about to get a whole lot worse. There are way too many young people who don't know what to do. not that it's their fault, society was supposed to help them understand.
Starting point is 00:46:19 And instead of teaching the next generation how to take over, they're flooding the country with immigrants, making it impossible. So the whole thing is going to go tits up. Yeah, I mean... Well, let's jump to this next story from the post-millennial.
Starting point is 00:46:30 Tim Walt says people are driving by his house and calling him retarded. Quote, I've never seen this before. People driving by my house and using the R word in front of people of the R word. True. This creates danger.
Starting point is 00:46:44 And I'll tell you what, my time on this, I'd never seen this before, people driving my house by my house and using the R word in front of people. This is shameful. And I have yet to see an elected official, a Republican elected official say, you're right, that's shameful. It's not shameful. It's actually funny. I should not say it. So look, I'm worried. We know how these things go. They start with taunts. They turn to violence. So deeply concerned. Uh-huh. Well, he was called retarded because of things like this. And look, For a while, we had principally two factions, liberal, conservative, Democrat, Republican,
Starting point is 00:47:22 whatever you want to call it now. It's been splintering even more. With the left, you have the establishment Democrats and the socialist left and on the right now. There's the mega rift they're calling it, Tucker, you know, interviewing Fentz and then everyone's getting all bent out of shape. I don't know if this is going to be kind of a, let's call it, the period at which the caterpillar turns into a pile of sludge within the cocoon and then something new comes out, right? Is this going to be that all the factions start fighting and then new factions form in the next couple of years? Or is this the total granularization of politics in this country and everyone will just hate each other? If it goes that granular, how do you even run a national campaign?
Starting point is 00:48:08 I mean, we're at the point now where I question how you run a national campaign. How is J.D. Vance going to win over the Tucker Carlson Fuentes faction. Not that they're identical, but the very, let's just say Israel critical. And then you have the Christian Zionist faction. J.D. Vance has got to get both of them. Anna Kasparian is talking about how she watches Candace Owens. So maybe a Republican comes out
Starting point is 00:48:34 and says, you've got a Republican primary where you've got candidates who are, I'm going to go to Israel. And then maybe Democrats start voting Republican because people like Anika Sparian have left the left already. Their message needs to be America. I feel like it's the only thing that keeps us together. A lot of lefties hate America and Democrats hate America, but for majority of people, if you are anti-Israel, pro-Israel, end of the day,
Starting point is 00:49:00 you're America first, MAGA. So if they're pronouncing the message of America and borders, economy, that's the only way in a message I could think of. I don't think so. No? No, I mean, the people who hate Israel It's the only thing they care about. They're not talking about the border.
Starting point is 00:49:16 They're talking about Israel and the spies who killed Charlie Kirk and things like that. To be fair, it's not necessarily correct as even Nick Fuentes as opposed to that. But this is how granularized. They come granularized how it is where even the Israel side is now split. But will that have...
Starting point is 00:49:33 We're talking about elections, though, right? So if we... J.D. Vance, but he's doing the American message, how they're going to have to vote Republican. I completely disagree. You think they just stay home? I honestly don't know. This is, this is, I don't necessarily want to say unprecedented.
Starting point is 00:49:49 But again, like right now, you've got all these media outlets that are talking about this rift on the right. The left is flattened. Right. I don't even, I don't even, who's even in charge at this point? When you look at their polling for the Democrats, it's like their best polling person's AOC at like 12%. So I don't know. I mean, Federman polls well amongst people who like Federman. AOC polls well among people who like AOC, but now that the left is largely routed, now that we're at the point where disaffected liberals, not people like me, of course, because I have a show, but I've talked to a lot of people recently who said, yeah, I used to be somewhat of a liberal, but now I've a Republican because they've gone crazy.
Starting point is 00:50:27 These people can speak freely. They're no longer, they no longer fear cancellation or losing their jobs. That means this woke beast has been largely defeated. Maybe it still exists, but largely defeated. now people are looking for what they're for and against again. And the right is now pointing the fingers at each other and breaking apart much like the left already did. So what does an election look like moving forward? Maybe it's, I'm not even playing. We will come to a point where there will be our Republican candidate in the primary. Look at this. Jank Yugar defending Marjorie Taylor Green.
Starting point is 00:51:00 I would not be surprised if in the, in 2027, there's a Republican primary candidate who is an American working class pro-populist guy who says that we do not want to be involved in these foreign wars. We should be about working for the working class, good paying jobs, and then you get the young Turks being like, we're voting Republican. But then at the same time, the Republican primary is also going to have, you know, the pro-Israel neocan who says we need to have a military presence in the Middle East. And your church and Republicans are voting for that. And then this is one of the theories people have been throwing around online.
Starting point is 00:51:37 the left gets flat and Democrats are dead. The Republican Party splits into two parties and becomes Democrat-Republican or the equivalent of. I think the worst phenomenon that's happening right now is this scapegoating. Just like we mentioned, we got to have an enemy at all times. And as soon as we eradicate this enemy thinking and we think in terms of we can have a discussion with each other,
Starting point is 00:51:58 I think that would be positive for all of us. So maybe there will be a day when even somebody like JD-Vans has a conversation with Nick Fuentes. And maybe they will completely disagree. But at least we get an actual picture of what they agree and what they disagree on. So then for voters, it's going to be easier to identify, oh, this is actually what I like to align myself with more. Because otherwise you're going to have people who just watch Nick Fuentes show or just listen to the other side.
Starting point is 00:52:27 And then they never actually get to see the real people behind it because they constantly just watch small clips that the other side pulled somewhere from the internet from them. Or AI. I mean, maybe actually where we're going is back in time. Remember when Hillary Clinton was at that rally in 2015 or whatever and she used a Southern accent? Yes. The video went viral because they were like, who's she fooling? She's code switching. She's fooling everyone there who doesn't go online, doesn't watch these clips.
Starting point is 00:52:52 With AI, people are going to largely distrust a lot of these videos. And then you can never believe anything. Then if you're a politician, you'll go back to the old days where you show up in person and you talk like to say, listen, you vote for me and I'm going to be there for you. And then you go to NERG and say, listen, you talk to me and I got what you need. And then when the video pops up online, if you're talking with a fake action, you're back, that's, that's fake AI. No, you region specific the clip, so you have an AI voice and different accents for wherever the video is being played in. And that's possible. Yeah, I mean, Democrats do that now.
Starting point is 00:53:23 You can do that on YouTube. Talking, talking about granularization, how did you say? granularization. I was talking today. I did this clip on Gavin Newsom, who's gathering a bunch of support right now from, Hollywood donors, you know, potentially going towards a run in 2028. And it was very funny because at that same time, they're saying, look, we like the way he's pushing back on Trump.
Starting point is 00:53:45 He's got to fight back on Trump, which doesn't make any sense because Trump's not going to be running in 2028, but be that what it is. Then Hallie Berry comes out and says, no, he can't be president because he's not strong enough on women in menopause. Not even like he's good on abortion. He's good on families, but he's not good enough on menopause. So this one specific issue is so. important to her that she's going to tell however many millions of followers she has on social
Starting point is 00:54:11 media that you shouldn't vote for this guy because he doesn't support middle-aged women to the extent that I would like. Holly Berry said that? Ali Barry, yeah. Good grief. Wow. Good grief. That's, I mean, I feel like that's so ridiculous that it, the fact that people know that
Starting point is 00:54:27 she said it is a bad thing. Like, no one should pay attention. She said it right before he went out on stage. They were at the same. Oh, good grief. Oh, so you hate women and men? pause? Yeah, yeah, pretty much. I mean, I hate all women generally. Specifically, especially the ones with them.
Starting point is 00:54:44 Equality. Equality. It's right. Yes, we're allowed to. I hate everyone equally. That's right. I love that. That's what the world was better back when you assumed that when somebody was being a jerk, that they were just a jerk and being mean just because the person was a dick. Not because they hated a specific group. The world was better in a lot of ways back when there was one channel to watch. And everyone agreed. But the problem with that thinking is, while it's technically true that we all agree with each other, they were lying to us the whole time about everything. Yeah. And so what, what really was, was that ignorance was bliss. And as long as the, the broadcast narrator of the state told you
Starting point is 00:55:21 what was true, you agreed with it. Now we're in a world where anybody can say whatever they want on any platform and everyone's fighting. I mean, it's why the shows that were popular were popular at that time, because you didn't have that many choices. So certain shows became, you know, appointment television. And with, you know, AI content creation and just the, the amount of content emerging across social media, it's becoming impossible for anybody have a unified worldview. Let me tell you, it's not better to just have one channel or just a few channels. Coming from somebody who's from Germany, we pay taxes for the state media, meaning we have actual, like, communist media. And if you watch that, everybody tunes in at 8 p.m. to watch the
Starting point is 00:56:00 news in Germany. And it looks communist. It's not entertaining. If you watch Fox News, MSNBC, CNN, yeah, even MSNBC, even though it's bad, but it is somewhat entertaining. At least they put it on a show. At least they're trying to be intriguing towards the people who are watching. But in Germany, we just watch the news. The news. There's one channel, essentially. You tune in every night at 8 p.m.
Starting point is 00:56:24 They have the highest ratings because that's what we pay taxes for. We have to pay taxes for it. Even if you don't have a TV, even if you don't have a radio, you have to pay taxes for it. If you have multiple radius, you have to pay twice or more times than twice. So, yeah, it's pretty intense. And the majority of Germans are actually against it. They do not want to pay these taxes. But the thing is that the government and the parties that are in favor of these media taxes,
Starting point is 00:56:50 they will be covered favorably by the media. So it's good for them to promote the state media. And that's why it's such a communist system. That's why it's increasingly harder for alternative media to get any recognition. This is why now people who are more alternative and support the opposition, they are going on social media, they're going on X. Twitter was super unpopular before Elon Musk, but since he's been promoting the AFD, now X is becoming very popular in Germany too. So I just want to make the case here for more media diversity. I know it's extremely difficult to even find what's the truth anymore.
Starting point is 00:57:25 But I think the most important thing, the best thing that you can do is to go back to your internal values, just understand what you stand for, what your family stands for, find a community, find real friends. Maybe read a book every now and then. And then you need to go back to what your intuition tells you. And yeah, do your research is very easy to say. It's hard
Starting point is 00:57:46 to do. But if you get yourself some form of good education that doesn't mean to go to college necessarily, it means understanding the real world and being very observant of the real world, then I think you have a good chance at life. Well, let's jump to this next story. Ladies and gentlemen, the
Starting point is 00:58:02 mega rift. Now, you've got Nick Fentes calling out Candace Owens. The story is that Turning Point USA issued a rebuttal to everything Candace says, likely this was triggered by Candice calling on people to ask for refunds of their donations to Turning Point USA, which is probably apocalyptic for Turning Point USA and can very much destroy Turning Point. They apparently offered for her to come on the show, she agreed. And then when they said, okay, here's where we're doing it. She responded with kind of weird how you did an email or call me to ask about times or availability. And Chosen said a tweet, is it confirmation out at midnight? Nick Fuentes responds, you were invited to Turning Point USA HQ to press their leadership live and in person about their role in Charlie Kirk's
Starting point is 00:58:49 murder, but you can't go because of a scheduling conflict, L.O.L. Isn't this what you've been pushing for since September? Time to put up or shut up? Candice says, you spent over a a year attacking me on your show. I finally said, okay, come on my show. You responded and said Wednesday worked better for your schedule. Stop being a fraud. If I'd instead publicly tweeted Nick refused to debate, I would have been disingenuous. Nick said, you said TPSA could pick the time and place they did.
Starting point is 00:59:17 You've been milking your investigation for three months. Now is your opportunity to blow the lid on everything and you're going to no-show. What could possibly be the excuse? You owe it to your fans. The excuse is she was always lying, right? One of the things that Turning Point brought up was that early on in her investigation, she made a point about men in maroon shirts and then dropped that and moved on and never brought it back up. Or Egyptian planes flying around, which is never proven.
Starting point is 00:59:49 She then made claims that these planes were landing at airports where federal vehicles were driving to a law of us, and she vetted the person but never proved anything about what these planes were actually doing. Then it turns out her own lawyers are working in the same building as the feds. But people love the drama, the true crime, and the mystery. You know what she's really done? She has turned news podcasting into lost. Always end your show on a cliffhanger. Never resolve it and keep people hooked.
Starting point is 01:00:21 It is the mystery box of podcasts. And now that she's given the opportunity to go and put the nail in the coffin, she can't do it. So she's J.J. Abrams? I guess. What did he do? Created Lost. No, but I mean, did he actually write it and plan it out or what? He's famous for the mystery box. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:41 So why not now finally go and confront them about all of these things? Well, she's got an hour-long show to record for her fans to have them guess. I'm just kidding. There's no freaking way. Mystery box podcast. She spent months going after this story. and she can't take a couple hours of her day to miss one tiny show to go and actually confront these people in person like she wants to do
Starting point is 01:01:04 like she says she's going to do. I'm sure that they'd allow her to co-stream it, you know, stream to her people as well as theirs. And look, she's made enough allusions to accusations that this should be the opportunity for her to, you know, go and clear all this up and, you know, find the bad guys or point to the bad guys. I think that this kind of speaks to the fact that it is kind of just a bunch of of like, you know, isn't this strange, isn't this odd. You know, she, she does a lot of pointing and saying, look, look, look, but there's no substance there. And I think if there was substance,
Starting point is 01:01:37 she would be, you know, jumping at this opportunity. Indeed. And that was kind of the point that turning point made when they were like, she keeps abandoning key points of this investigation and then never coming back to it. It's been three months. Even now Nick Fuentes pointing it out, what's happening on the right seems to be maybe Candice is intentionally playing the heel to unite everyone against her. It's like the weirdest thing now because... Selfless, right? I've got... Check this out. Since she started doing this arc, I, we, our PR people have been getting inundated by mainstream media reporters. They've been texting me like crazy. They're asking us to like give our, it's the weirdest thing ever that all of a sudden the corporate press is like,
Starting point is 01:02:21 we're interested in this rift. We want more press on it. And I'm like, is the point to just get like all of the regular conservatives to find their villain. So she's not JJ Abrams. She's Vince McMahon during the Stone Cold Steve Austin era. I have no idea what that means. I do. You're right. Okay.
Starting point is 01:02:41 That's awesome. Tim, you should make a poll for the chat. Nick Fuentes or Candice Owens. Oh, that's a good idea. Nick Fuentes or Candice Owens. So we did a poll and I said, Brian Cole is the bomber or no way to cover up. and cover up one with 53% to 47 that Cole is the bomber.
Starting point is 01:03:00 It's pretty even. It's pretty split. Let's do a new poll. One, let's get it. Nick Fuentes or whose side of you on chat? Nick Fuentes or Candice Owens. I mean, it's interesting because I honestly have no idea how this one's going to play out. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:03:19 They generally like both of them. Yes. The chat seems to be boring. You know, this is the issue, I think. take with this stupid debate about like Tucker and Nick and these tradcon people who are like, I don't want to work with Nick. He's moderated on so many issues. And he's even admitted this.
Starting point is 01:03:36 Now he's doing more press shows. He's acknowledged that being abrasive and trolly and that has been bad for him. And now he's, I guess, getting older and realizing that, you know, how to effectively grow and expand his opportunity. Nick Fuentes is 80%. Wow. Crushing. Wow. Nick called her out pretty good here. I've seen him on Stephen Crowder today, and that was a pretty...
Starting point is 01:04:02 Was he also calling her out? They didn't really... They got into it themselves. It was a little call-out, but it wasn't a big call-out. We're still waiting for Nick to come on this show. Oh, yeah? We're going to get him on. Well, I mean, he was scheduled, and then he canceled on. Are we doing culture war with Nick? Oh, no. I show show show.
Starting point is 01:04:16 Okay. Yeah. That'd be fun. Yeah. He didn't want to come on. Come on, Nick. He said he had a scheduling thing happen, and I said, okay, you know, do your thing, I guess. How much time did you have to spend watching the Candace shows to like, because the thing is, with all of this type of drama, like once you can miss one day and you're completely lost about anything that's going on
Starting point is 01:04:35 because there's so much lore behind all of this stuff. Like, I immediately disengage because I don't want to go back through and listen to 8,000, look through 8,000 threads of people arguing about this stuff. I just don't care. Like, I just don't. You know, there is, there's always going to be a challenge if you're trying to be honest in media, you're never going to succeed. I shouldn't say that.
Starting point is 01:04:59 You're going to have a hard go of it. I think there's a reason why Stephen Crowder has maintained such strong viewership while many others have faltered. And I think it's because he generally does his thing, believes in himself, focuses on his message and mission, stays true. But there are a lot of people who are substantially more successful or who, you know, come and go. Like Canada's being a really great example of a meteoric rise through, I don't know, like unscrupulous manipulation. If you are going to, it's a hard thing to do. Politicians,
Starting point is 01:05:35 you're never going to get elected if you're actually telling people the truth. It's just not going to happen. Imagine a politician running for Congress being like, guys, Social Security will be insolvent by 2034 and we don't have the population size to actually pay into it to keep it at current levels. That means that only what goes into it will come out. So we expect a drop of around 30%. This means your checks will diminish. However, there are a couple solutions. Because the younger generation isn't large enough to pay the taxes on this, we could increase taxes on Gen Z and that will be able, that'll make it so that we can increase the payouts. Or we can bring in as many migrants as possible in whatever way we can so that we can bring in more working individuals into the tax base.
Starting point is 01:06:21 And then everyone gets mad. They want you to come and just say, I will fix Social Security. I'm going to fight for it. I'm going to fight for you and your Social Security and your Medicaid. And they go, okay, that's all that mattered to me. And what does that even mean to fight for it? It doesn't mean anything. It doesn't mean anything. Nothing. It's hope and change. It's the same exact thing. So what I love about Candace's show is, you know, the easiest example is that guy, finance where he was like, why are they giving money to a parking lot? And it's like, man, if you're reading comprehension is third grade, you fall for this stuff. Again, like, I was, I looked through one thread last night about the Candace stuff, and it was
Starting point is 01:07:00 somebody saying, like, I think they want to get her in the studio so they can scope out her security. I was like, bro, I have to go. I just signed off my phone. I'm like, I don't have it in me to read this stuff. Like, I don't know if there are turning point assassins, but if that is a thing, then God help us all. She did it to us. And you know, I'm not surprised you. I was actually, I take that back. I'm actually surprised she even responded twice now, even had me on her show. Look at that.
Starting point is 01:07:27 But, you know, if your show is about drama and you need some drama, then, you know, she'll take what she can get. But when we were talking about her making $10 million per year on this show, someone took that clip, cut out the part where I explicitly stated she has a large audience because, you know, it's appealing to a wider base and that she's a lot of female viewers. They cut that out. Lied and claimed we said that she was botting her audience and it was all fake. She then reposts it and this is the game. This is, you know, so the challenge that I think we have in whatever space we occupy is scruples.
Starting point is 01:08:06 I'm not going to lie about Candace for the sake of getting views, but there's a tremendous opportunity right now. because Candice wants to play this conspiracy dark world game, we could absolutely play back because she's brought us into her world. She had me, you know, I ranted against her, and then I had the media blowing my phone up trying to talk to me about it, and I called her a scumbag. She had me on her show today, showing the clip, which gives us a tremendous opportunity that if we played the same game as her,
Starting point is 01:08:35 I could leak text messages, oh, the things I've heard about Candace Owens. But my view of her is largely that she's unscrupulous, and willing to manipulate intentionally for money. Based on the messages I've seen from her, I could accuse her of killing Charlie Kirk. I'm not even exaggerating. The messages that I've seen of Candace could easily be misconstrued to say
Starting point is 01:08:56 that she had the biggest reason to murder Charlie because he ousted her from Turning Point. And she wants revenge, but she didn't know how to go up against Charlie. But I don't actually believe that. I don't think that's the case at all. I think she obviously was mad over a lot of things. I think she loved Charles.
Starting point is 01:09:11 I think she was in love with him. And now she wants to burn down turning point because she's, what do they call it, second wife syndrome? She's the jilted lover who is friend zoned, who is Charlie Kirk's wingman, who had that romantic text exchange with him that she was showing off. And now she wants to burn everything down in revenge. That's what I really think. There have been people who have made the joke that you could easily take statements she's made and insinuate she had Charlie murdered. and statements from people at Turning Point about how they feared Candace and what she was going to do. So let me put it like this.
Starting point is 01:09:47 After Candace was ousted from Turning Point, you know, she was no longer a speaker. I think it was the end of 23. I'm not entirely sure. She remained friends with Charlie, but stopped doing events with Turning Point. And some people have argued it's because of her stance on Israel. I don't know if that's the case. But there are people at Turning Point expressing fear over what Candice would do to them if they actually. ever got into a drama bit with her over her being ousted.
Starting point is 01:10:14 And so they needed to keep her close but not too far. Some of these emails and these statements, you could easily be like, this proves Candice was trying to kill Charlie the whole time because it's all vague murder mystery garbage. The question is who's really going to believe it? I don't know. But that's exactly what she does. One example is like the Mikey McCoy thing.
Starting point is 01:10:32 He got on his phone when retro Charlie was shot, that proves it. It's like it literally means nothing. We have no idea what it means. She's insinuated that they didn't. denied Charlie First Aid that it was an inside job, all of this crazy nonsense, because it is, it is lost. It's like what big show do we have? She's, you know what she's really good at? She basically figured out how to make that Game of Thrones herself. Very, very, very well done. And if you are unscrupulous and your biggest concern is how many live viewers you have,
Starting point is 01:11:01 then you will be Candace Owens and you will brag about it. Good for her, I guess. I think she's evil. I think she's, she's scummy, but, you know, that's why I look at the success she has, why I called it demoralizing, you know, two or three weeks ago, because we're trying to build a coalition to save this country. She's trying to build a coalition so she can make money and sell ads. And she's effectively destroying the political coalition that wants to see a victory to stave off this crazy immigration crisis, to help Gen Z in the working class buy homes and bring prices down. Her thing is just vagary after vagary, distraction, distraction, distraction, and burn down the one organization that actually unified various political factions to help Donald
Starting point is 01:11:46 Trump win the election. Maybe she's burned with the Democrats the whole time. That's why her lawyers work with the feds. Well, I mean, she was a Democrat before, so. I'm starting to think that she has lost all sensitivity to what is ethical at this point to promote on her show, because all the conspiracy theories that she's pulling out, maybe there's some validity, a fraction of validity to something that she has said at some point. But now she's drowning everything in so many allegations, accusations that just do not make any sense whatsoever. So there's nothing that is believable anymore. And I don't even know if she understands the kind of impact that she's having.
Starting point is 01:12:25 And I think maybe you think that she's fully aware of it and that she knows exactly what she's doing. She's very smart. Generally, okay. I do think that she's very smart for sure. otherwise she wouldn't have this great show, great in the sense that she has a lot of views, obviously. But at the same time, I think she has become completely insensitive to how people are perceiving her. I think she just thinks that she's this, yeah, she is the ideal, the queen behind what she's promoting. And she doesn't quite take in what kind of impact it has on her views, but also what kind of impact it has on Charlie and the family and the legacy that he left behind.
Starting point is 01:13:01 because I don't think that Charlie would have wanted any of this. That's part of why. I mean, I completely agree. I think the idea that Charlie would want her to advocate everyone pull their donations from the organization he built. Ridiculous. No one hates Charlie more than Candace Owens. Let me say that very, very clearly.
Starting point is 01:13:18 I want to say it straight to the camera for all of her biggest fans, and then she can grab this clip and put on her show. I do think it's absolutely hilarious that we're substantially smaller shows than hers, but she brought us up anyway. So thanks for saying my name, Candace. no one hated Charlie Kirk more than Candice Owens. She reviles him. She spits on his grave and she smiles while doing it.
Starting point is 01:13:42 Okay, quote over. And I'll say this because Charlie spent his life building out these organizations. Candice is doing everything in her power to tear them down. She hates Charlie. She hates what Charlie built and she wants it to burn. She hates Charlie's family. She hates Charlie's friends. she's accused them of killing him.
Starting point is 01:14:03 She's accused his wife of having knowledge of these events. And then she comes out and says, I never said that. Not in the literal sense, but there's literally no other logical conclusion to what you're saying. So when I look at Colvette and Boier and Blake and Erica and the people who work at Turning Point, and I say, you know, maybe they're not handling things properly and they don't know what to do what Charlie was doing. there's fears that Turning Point can't make it without Charlie. All of that is them trying to make Turning Point survive. Candice is advocating you abandoned Turning Point USA.
Starting point is 01:14:42 It's kind of remarkable to see. But let's just do the logic here. Simple question for all of you, throw it in the chat. Who do you think cares more about Turning Point? The people trying to salvage and save it, or the woman telling everybody to pull their donations. then you can ask yourself this. If Charlie were alive today, what do you think he'd be saying about all of this?
Starting point is 01:15:07 Do you think he would say, I don't trust my wife and my best friends to run my organization? Or do you think he'd be saying, Candace should burn down Turning Point USA? I think the reality is a lot of people who follow Candice, they're masquerading, much like the woke do. They don't really care about Turning Point. they want to watch it all burn down. They want to see Turning Point go belly up because they're nihilists. I'm not saying literally everybody who watches her, but in what reality does it make sense
Starting point is 01:15:37 that Charlie would want Candace to burn Turning Point to the ground? It makes no sense. Not at all. And in what reality, does this help us win a political victory moving into a midterm year? It doesn't. So I tell you this, my friends, I'll put it like this.
Starting point is 01:15:55 I got asked about why we weren't invited to Turning Point USA. And they've since invited us back, whatever, but I said, I'm not going. We've got prior commitments. I was asked by basically every mainstream news organization. Oh, what's going on? The mega riff, they all want to know. Intention doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:16:13 Emotion doesn't matter. Only the outcome matters. And if Turning Point USA does not want Timcast, IRL, disaffected urban liberals, on its stage, prime time on Friday, and instead wants to book four conservatives wearing suits to talk about conservative values. It is their prerogative, but the outcome is the only thing that matters. They can hate me, they can love me, don't care. The question is, if this is the direction of turning point, what do they look like a year from now? Will it be a big tent organization that brings in liberals, moderates, conservatives, libertarians,
Starting point is 01:16:51 to form a coalition? or will it be conservatives having an event to talk amongst each other? I say the same thing of Candice Owens. I don't care about what her intent is, her emotional state. I care about the outcome. If Candice Owens' actions and requests are to pull the donations from Turning Point and malign the people involved with it so that no one wants to be involved, the question then becomes, what will Turning Point be a year from now?
Starting point is 01:17:19 And if Candice's action say anything, and she's succeeds, turning point will have been destroyed. Charlie's legacy gone. Everything he built, erased and but a memory. That is what Candace is working towards because she hates Charlie Kirk. You know what I think it is? When I was, I learned an important moral lesson when I was very young. My dad told me that some people like being upset. And I was confused by that as a young child. How can you enjoy being upset? It's the antithesis. It's not. Some people want to be angry.
Starting point is 01:17:57 They want to cry. They want to be the victim. That's the world they want to live in. So while I can say Candice Owens was in love with Charlie Kirk, and this is based on me watching her show, the romance drama, the thing she mentioned about choosing his clothes
Starting point is 01:18:13 and all the stuff and how she loved him and all of that stuff, she literally says it, I mean, she doesn't say she was in love, right? But you look at that and then you look at her being rejected from the organization, which is true. You can read all about it. I guess the issue was that she was critical of Israel and so they didn't want to have her there. She's offended. And then think about
Starting point is 01:18:30 what a jilted lover can do. How often have you heard the story of the jilted lover who then murdered the woman who rejected him? It happens all the time. Usually it's a guy killing the woman. When I see what Candace is doing, I see rejection, jealousy, anger. And now that Charlie's gone, she wants revenge. I don't understand why else you dedicate three months to vagaries with the only purposes stop supporting Turning Point USA. The excuse they want to give, and I love this, is that the only reason I'm criticizing Candace is because I'm trying to get back in the good graces of Turning Point USA. I'm the one who made the video saying, I'm not going.
Starting point is 01:19:10 They invited me back, and I said, no, I don't want to go. I'm not going to go. It is what it is. They can do whatever they want. I live in a totally different world, and I hate the political grifter class and everything that's going on with this stuff. But you know what? Why it's important? Some of you may be saying, what is the reason to talk about this? Why is this in the news again? This is 1.2 million views from Nick Fuentes. There are questions right now in every major media organization. What is going to happen in the midterms?
Starting point is 01:19:38 And the people that once stood together are now all fighting with each other. And I got to tell you, I am blackpilled on politics right now. Trump talking about H-1Bs and Chinese visas, I'm like, okay, well, why am I sticking my neck out in this way? Why am I running the risk of the DOJ under the Biden administration threatening me and my family for people like Candace Owens? Why would I want to do that? Or the people who believe in what she says when she lies and burns down everything Charlie stood for? Why would I want to be involved in that? Bro, I'd much rather live in a van down by the river. there's a reason why this has never been the biggest podcast in the world, why I don't take the political route and pursue it the way most of these people do, why we don't have PR crafting messages or writing scripts for me.
Starting point is 01:20:28 And there's a reason why there's been periods where we've burned tons of subscribers standing up for people that many people hated. Because I've always just said what I thought and I'm not playing any stupid PR games. And I've always said if that means people don't follow me, I appreciate you follow me as long as you did. I'm going to go live in a van down by the river with a smile on my face. This is what the political space is turning into. We had a good run for the past seven or eight years where a coalition formed and people said, we agree on these things and we have to stop the woke psychopathy. Candice now represents psychopathic grifter content and cultism more than anything else we've seen on the left.
Starting point is 01:21:06 And she is the biggest threat to the coalition of the right and our victories that we're trying to attain in 2026 and 2028. It's her. Democrats are no real threat, to be completely honest, because they don't stand for anything. Even among internal Democrat polling, they don't agree with each other. Internal Democrat polling now says Democrats are more interested in identity issues than actual economic issues. Okay. The Republicans have an opportunity to buck the historic trend and win the midterms, when they already control the House, the Senate, and the executive branch. What's the biggest threat to our potential victory?
Starting point is 01:21:40 Candice Owens. Even Nick Fuentes is calling her out. That's how crazy it's gotten. So I tell you this, my friends, if that's the direction we're really going to go in the next year or so, I don't see how we win if the right is composed of two different political worldviews. This means you're going to have the Democrat cultists, the MAGA right and the Candace right, or whatever you want to call it, and Democrats will get the edge and win. I mean, I think that the Democrats are going to win anyways, like regardless of this kind of stuff. I think that all signs are indicating that. Unless there's some kind of midterms, yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:18 Because, I mean, all signs are indicating that, and I don't see any significant uptick in the economy on the horizon. There's a time where, you know, there's a lot of people that say, you know, it's bad that the Republicans have always been, you know, graph go up. And I understand that, that argument. But if the graph isn't going up, if people don't feel like their money is able, you know, can pay for groceries, they can't pay their bills. people are definitely going to vote for the other team. Or stay home. Or stay home. Well, I mean, they'll make sure that the people in power lose, whether that means they don't go out and support them or they go out and they actually vote against them.
Starting point is 01:22:57 Gas prices have been down. Gas prices are down. And that has an effect on the economy. But the prices overall, like they haven't gone down. And the fact that Donald Trump was doing the same thing that Joe Biden was doing and saying, no, you're wrong about what you're experiencing at the gas. at the grocery store. You're wrong about what you're experiencing when you're trying to make, pay your bills and stuff. That is bad news. So I, you know, this kind of stuff, I think it's bad for the coalition. I think that it's bad for, for, you know, whatever you want to call the MAGA
Starting point is 01:23:27 coalition. But I think at the end of the day, this stuff is still a distraction. And I think part of the reason why this is a, why this stuff is going on is because there isn't actual big, tangible victories that people can actually talk about. So they're just, people are blackpilling. They're saying things aren't getting done, and then you end up with this kind of stuff getting oxygen. Well, I mean, Candice has created a murder mystery drama that seeks to destroy turning point, which was pivotal in Trump's victory in 2024. Yeah. So this is the biggest threat that the right faces in actually stopping the communist rise on the left. Saying that Candace herself is the biggest threat right now, I think is giving her way too much power.
Starting point is 01:24:09 Because she has 165,000 concurrent viewers. I know I am absolutely agreeing with you, but what she's doing is she's creating a massive bubble and it's going to pop because what she's doing is not sustainable. At some point, all the lies are going to just blow up and everybody's going to find out that they have been wasting a bunch of time on fairy tales. And that's it. And yeah, right now it looks pretty bad. But I think now even Nick Fuentes is calling her out. I mean, I know that he's never been a big fan of her, but it's crucial that we're seeing this kind of divide right now because he's calling her out on something that's very valid. He's calling out the hypocrisy and that she has gaps in her logic.
Starting point is 01:24:45 There is no logic. There is no consensus in anything that she's promoting anymore. I think that's the biggest issue. And at some point we've got to get back to reasonable discussions because this is a destruction. These are fairy tales and fairy tales are very intriguing to a lot of people, but they will blow up at some point. Because as soon as you have to face the facts, right now we're all very comfortable, so we don't have to face the facts. So it's nice to get comfortable with a fairy tale. but this is not sustainable.
Starting point is 01:25:11 And so I do have to say I've got to have to give... Nick Fuentes is a lot of credit for how he handled the death of Charlie Kirk, not just this, but I saw how he reacted and he was genuinely grieving, even though he admitted that he didn't like Charlie Kirk while he was alive and he never had a good relationship with him. They were basically enemies in a way, at least from a political perspective, But they were not enemies as people. And he respected Charlie for what he was doing.
Starting point is 01:25:43 And he didn't fabricate any conspiracy theories around Tony Point U.S.N. And I think that is crucial. That is way more important. You know what? I think you're right. I have a new conspiracy theory. Let's go. After the death of Charlie Kirk, Candice realized there was no unifying force on the right.
Starting point is 01:26:01 So she decided that she can be that villain. She can be that person because, you know, it's the he. What is it, the hero that we need, not the one we deserve? Yeah. And so what's happening now is Nick Fuentes, Tim Poole, Dave Rubin, James Lindsay are all finding themselves standing side by side in criticizing Candace Owens. She has become the sauron of the army against the armies of Middle Earth and all of the weirdest political factions are now agreeing with each other because Candace is crazy.
Starting point is 01:26:34 Even the right and the woke right can come to that. It's no coincidence that this, Nick tweets this after he did a two and a half hour conversation with Stephen Crater to, you know, figure out their other differences and how they can come together. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I think that in the long run, the Nick's audience and the message that Nick has, especially if he's moderating his message, that's something that young people are going to actually pay attention to. And it speaks to things that young people actually care about. I think that the stuff that Candace is talking about, I think that it is detrimental to the overall right.
Starting point is 01:27:12 And I think that it's basically just, you know, the view. It's just like Tim says, it's just murder mystery stuff. You know, it's just drama. Indeed. There needs to be a new Blake lively type story that you're interested in so she can move on. But she didn't even finish any of those murder mysteries. Right?
Starting point is 01:27:28 Like the Blake Lively thing, a cliffhanger, and then the Bridget McRone stuff, there's no resolution there. I do think she's going to get vaporized. To your point, I think the McCrone thing is apocalyptic for her. And it's not because she's right or wrong. It's because France is going through the motions, but you have a nation state at the highest level trying to shut down Candace Owens. Donald Trump is not going to sacrifice foreign policy for Candace Owens.
Starting point is 01:27:58 So when France says we want this taken care of, I'd be willing to bet people in the state, Department are like, file your lawsuit, we'll make sure you win. And she's going to get summary judgment, and it's going to be, they're going to Alex Joneser. They're going to be like, we're taking your stuff. This is the weirdest thing. You know, I try to look at probabilities and how things make sense. And Candace is very smart. So it makes no sense that she would intentionally expose herself to liability in this way with Bridget McCrone. You'll notice that she makes a lot of statements about turning point that are relatively vague so that she doesn't expose herself to
Starting point is 01:28:35 defamation liability like when she said quote, well I shouldn't quote it but she said I'm paraphrasing something to the effect of I can say with full confidence that I believe. Right? That's a legal statement. So if I said something like I made this point yesterday but I'll say it for this
Starting point is 01:28:52 right now, I can confirm 100% that I feel Candice Owens killed Charlie Kirk. She killed him. Now, what did I really say? You feel a certain way? I can confirm 100%. I feel she killed Charlie Kirk.
Starting point is 01:29:09 You say it like that, and then if she ever tries to sue me, I'll be like, I just confirmed that I feel that way. I'm allowed to feel that way. That's not defamation. That's illegalese. She does things like that. On the Bridget McCrone thing, it's defamation per se. You can't accuse someone of having some kind of disgusting ailment.
Starting point is 01:29:24 That's the words they use in the law. She's going to lose that. She has to have known she's going to lose this. and if that's the case, why do it? It doesn't make any sense. And also, maybe she believes it. Yeah, but who cares that, why is it such a big deal that Macron has, you know, maybe or maybe doesn't have a thing under the pants?
Starting point is 01:29:47 Like who, like, why is that a big deal? Because of the drama, right? No, because she'll be, Bridget McCrone will be murdered if Bridget McCrone travels to Saudi Arabia. That's why. Oh, oh, geez. Okay. If any Qatari and Middle Eastern individual royalty or otherwise believes this is a trans person and a homosexual relationship coming to their country, it's going to present diplomatic problems for France. And Candace is pumping that stuff out.
Starting point is 01:30:12 That's weird. So that is an issue. So this was true with Peter Thiel when he got ousted by, I think it was Gawker. Was it Gawker back in the day? He got outed as being gay. And they all laughed and they were like, ha, ha, we can do whatever you want. Well, the issue is if he flies to a foreign country for a business meeting, they could kill him.
Starting point is 01:30:31 And that's why it's a problem. But why does Candace care? Yeah. Why is that so relevant? Does it have a negative impact on our politics? I don't know. No, but it makes her money and gets her views. Yeah, like it doesn't mean.
Starting point is 01:30:41 But it doesn't because she's going to lose. That's what I don't understand. And so then when I think about it, let me ask you guys a few questions. Whether she believes it or not, she's smart enough to understand legal liability and the ability to prove something in court, right? So you can't win this.
Starting point is 01:30:58 So the presumption is she has to understand she will be sued and lose. The question then is, if she knew she would be sued and lose, she's not going to make money from doing it. It will destroy her career in the long run. Why then do it? Like what can we, what conclusions can we come to? If we're thinking about an individual who was calculating and intelligent, why would they make a move knowing they'll be sued into oblivion?
Starting point is 01:31:25 I think maybe she would have a backer that even if she loses all the money they will compensate her money back to her. What is the end goal of calling Bridget McCrana, man? Jesus, I don't know. Fame? She's already got 100,000 or 150,000 people watching her
Starting point is 01:31:40 show today. I can't imagine what's fame. Fame, perhaps. Maybe all the other conspiracy theories were already occupied by some group or influencer, and so she had to pick something that was still free. I don't know. Indeed. So let me add a few more ingredients to the then. Okay. She has recently come out and told people to get refunds on their donations
Starting point is 01:32:00 Turning Point USA, which could literally end the organization very quickly if a large enough amount of people do it. She's coming. That's good. So I can get a refund from France. Okay. And let's add one more thing to the mix. Her lawyers work in the same building as the feds. She works for the CIA. Maybe. Ooh. Left to CIA. Candice Owens lawyers work out of the same building. as the feds. Why is none of the people who follow are asking this question, how this makes sense? I have to be completely honest.
Starting point is 01:32:32 I have, we have corporate lawyers, we have many of them. None of them work in buildings where feds work. That is very, very weird. And I'm curious about her communications with these lawyers over the issue. What, has she not gone to them and say, why are you at the same building as the feds? And during her little video, she, it just sounded like she had no idea that they were in the same building. Right. She's blindsided.
Starting point is 01:32:57 Because perhaps she's just doing what she's told. She's just saying what she's told to say. And that's why she's not concerned about being sued into oblivion, because she is putting out the message that she is told to put out. And that's why, despite claiming, if you criticize Israel, you'll be banned, YouTube props are up. So let's put all these ingredients together and ask those that are faithful viewers of Candace Owens. She did something that made no sense that was a clear definition.
Starting point is 01:33:24 slam dunk that'll get her company destroyed and soon into oblivion. She's advocating the destruction of turning point, telling people to pull their money out. Her lawyers operate out of the same building as federal agents, DEA, FBI, Secret Service, her own admission, and YouTube props her up the whole time. It proves it. It does. No, no, what she says. I can now say with 100% certainty that I believe that Candace is a spy.
Starting point is 01:33:53 She's a CIA. I can actually say that I genuinely think Candace is a spy. Fed. That's all sounds very fetish. Fed isn't the right word for it, but deep state or something like that. Agent Owens. Why is Nick Fuentes banned from every platform, but Candice Owens is propped up on every platform. Yeah. So again, Alex Jones says stuff about Sandy Hook. They ban him. He gets sued into oblivion. Candice Owens says crazy stuff about Turning Point USA, Bridget McRone, YouTube puts her on the front page, Spotify pumps her to number one, all of it is A-LK, and her lawyers work in the same building as the feds.
Starting point is 01:34:30 Why do your lawyers work in a building with federal agents? Answer the question. There's no answer. There's literally nothing you can say. Oh, it's just a coincidence that I hired a law firm that's in the same building as the feds. What? And then acted as... Oh, whoops.
Starting point is 01:34:45 I slipped and landed into a federal office with a bunch of federal agents. And you could argue that she just aggravated her message since Trump got into office and all times have changed. But Nick Fuentes, I believe, just recently tried to start a YouTube channel and it got shut down immediately. So the different kinds of treatments are... And he's calling her out. Yeah. So why is it that Candace is allowed to say crazy things that have resulted in massive lawsuits?
Starting point is 01:35:10 YouTube doesn't care. In fact, they want to promote her more. She has accused... She's pushed all this conspiracy content, which YouTube says conspiracy stuff is banned. Federal agent. Look, I don't know that she's a federal agent. Beside! But I'll say this.
Starting point is 01:35:24 It is a fact of her own accidental admission that the law firm representing her is in the same building as federal agents. It's crazy. I'm just saying. Yeah. The people that don't, the people that don't ask that question that follow her, like this is the first thing I'll say to anybody when I like I watch Canada. I'm like, eh, she's a fed. Like, you don't accidentally hire a law firm than a federal building. That's right.
Starting point is 01:35:48 You know what I mean? Like, how is this? And then she accidentally revealed it on her own show. And then she had no answer. Oh, it's a registered agent. What? They registered in the same building as the feds? Yep. That 10 minute, heard a 10 minute video on that and just to end up at the end there, being at the same building, like blew my mind.
Starting point is 01:36:06 I was like, what the F? But she didn't know it when she told it. What's what I mean? That's like, yeah, the whole... And then what actually happened was people didn't realize that the first, the people that called her out were like she accidentally posted her own address. So this is what happened. On her show, she said she got an email that said these Egyptian planes, I think it was the Egyptian planes, planes, I think it was the Egyptian planes, had federal vehicles going from the airport to this building at a
Starting point is 01:36:27 certain address in Delaware. And then when she said the address in Delaware and then said, look, the feds operated out there. Some Democrats were like, that's actually her address. Then a journalist came out and said, no, no, guys, the feds actually do work there. And then I'm like, whoa, wait, hold on. This is actually really crazy. Her own lawyers are working in the same building as the feds. And I, and I responded immediately. I said, how come the narrative? is not, the feds are spying on her or she is a Fed. How come that is not part of this conversation? Because Nick Fuentes doesn't have anything like this.
Starting point is 01:37:02 Nick doesn't work with any Fed building people. We don't. Powder doesn't. Daily Wire doesn't. All of the people accused of working for Israel don't have federal agent lawyers. There's a lot of people that say that Nick. Federal agent lawyers. Federal agent lawyers.
Starting point is 01:37:16 Federal agent lawyers. Whatever. All right, we're going to go to your chats and rants, my friends. so smash the like button, share the show with literally everyone, you know. It really does help. And make sure you join us at Timcast.com by going to Timcast.com and clicking join us. To get into the Discord server and Karen the conversation, we'll be at the, we're having the uncensored portion of the show. 10 p.m. rumble.com slash Timcast. IRL.
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Starting point is 01:39:28 Not pool water, but pool brand water. You know, you get it. When's the spa water coming out? We need the... Sparkling? Yeah, we need sparkling water. Yeah, spa water was the next idea. And then what were we going to do?
Starting point is 01:39:39 Toilet water was the chocolate drink. I don't know how many people want to drink that one. It's public pool water. It was the lemon water. Pond water was green tea. Yeah. And then what was? Public pool water is a lemon lemon flame.
Starting point is 01:39:56 All right. Methos says, I still think it was a woman because of the gate. If the hips don't rock when they walk, they got a sock and those hips were rocking. Agreed. This person walked like a female and bent over at the hips to drop something down. When they were like, it's this guy. I'm like, really? I listened to your segment today and I was working, cleaning up, getting ready for the wintertime,
Starting point is 01:40:17 and I was doing a lot of bending over. So I was practicing and it's really I either put my leg up as I go down to balance my body and or I have one foot in front of the other to balance my body but standing legs straight and kind of bending over and pick stuff up and feels weird. Very unnatural. If a man, so lean up against a wall
Starting point is 01:40:37 and then lean forward at the hips. If you are a man, you will fall over. If you are a woman, you will have no problem. This is one of those viral TikTok challenges they do all the time where it's like a man and a woman will stand against a wall and then try and bend down to pick something up. Or they do one where it's like pick up a chair. And the men and the women will lean on a chair
Starting point is 01:40:54 and then the women will just go right up with it and the men can't stand up. Why didn't Candice Owens challenge Bridget McRohn to do that? Like against the ball? It's been over way faster. If you get it done it, no embarrassment. We'll solve the issue right away. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:10 Coppo Sooth says no way a black man waved at police. Dead giveaway, dead giveaway. Right, because in the surveillance footage of the pipe bomber, they wave at the Capitol Police. So they were like, yeah, no way. I saw a tweet. It said Jake Tapper skewered for calling
Starting point is 01:41:25 Black D.C. pipe bomb suspect Brian Cole Jr. a white man on air. He did? He did. There's a video of it. What, really? Yeah. Let me see how I'll find it.
Starting point is 01:41:35 The name he probably. Well, to be fair, people were sharing a bunch of different pictures of random Brian Coles. But there's like a picture up there with him that's like of... I guess he's against a green screen though, right? Like he can't see. image behind him.
Starting point is 01:41:49 John Rambo says, is anyone else impressed with the silent takeover of the UK? Does that mean U.S. Big Tech is complicit or willfully ignorant with the UK government in silencing dissent, 12,000 arrests a year? I watched a video on Instagram where police shut up to some woman's house and they confiscated her daughter's phone for saying a naughty word or something like this. That's the UK. There's a video going viral right now of like a dude in Calgary, like getting arrested for not apologizing about his faith or something like this.
Starting point is 01:42:17 I don't know exactly what happened. Do you guys have that issue? It's just the same in Germany. You just don't hear as much about it because German's not as vocal about it. And also because there's the language barrier between English and Americans and the UK, they speak English too.
Starting point is 01:42:31 So there's a much better connection, especially on social media between them. Now we're starting to see more from Germany too, but it's like for the past years there has been this silent tyranny in Germany. And the people of Germany, they are more obedient, more compliant, and they like to stay in line.
Starting point is 01:42:47 and not snitch on each other, or at least not snitch on the government. They like to snitch on each other, unfortunately, to the government. But they don't like to go against the grain and violate the establishment narrative. And especially doing that outside of the German bubble is very much looked down upon. When I first started doing more international stuff and speaking English, the number one comment that I got was in Germany, you got to speak German. And now they're starting to appreciate it more because it's becoming increasingly. useful and necessary for us to build this bridge between Germany or rather Europe and America
Starting point is 01:43:23 to actually understand that it's an issue of Western society and we the people versus some form of globalism that we actually got to defeat. And since Germany has the biggest impact in the European Union, that we got to take down the European Union. And I personally think, because why is it so bad in the UK now, even though they had the Brexit, I think the Brexit was hijacked. And it was basically like a Psi-op. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:46 It wasn't supposed to happen. It did, and then they tried to sabotage it. It took years. They never got it done it, and they screwed it all up. All right. I'm assuming this is pronounced Suppy. Per Timcast tradition, we are on our way to meet our twins. They are babies four and five. We have more than doubled our replacement.
Starting point is 01:44:04 God is good. Children are the fountain of youth, have more babies. Four and five. Yeah, hell yeah, but congratulations. Good team. Wonderful. I'm good to hear. Concrete Haiti says Massey is pushing hard for a federal constitutional carry bill.
Starting point is 01:44:16 How would Naomi, Naomi, feel about something like that would affect Germany and the AFD, if that passed there, would she be comfortable moving back? This means you have a right to carry a gun without a permit. I would still be arrested, likely. No, he's saying if in Germany they said you can now legally carry a gun concealed wherever you want. Oh, I see. The only way that I could comfortably come back to Germany is if the AFD actually makes it into the government. Otherwise, the bureaucracy, I think, is being severely underestimated in Germany. because there are so many ways that the government can get you.
Starting point is 01:44:50 They're trying to shut down the most popular party, and I think that's a huge issue. So unless the AFD actually makes it into the government, they will find so many loopholes to get you as an individual, and especially if you're a threat to the government, that it's just currently, sadly, I love Germany so much, especially during the Christmas season, but it's impossible for me to return right now. I would love for us to have gun rights in Germany, but that's not going to happen anytime soon. So you have to consider that if we were able to carry guns in Germany, the first and probably the only ones who would feel comfortable carrying guns, would be all the Islamists that we imported.
Starting point is 01:45:26 I think that would be an issue. Because Germans are just not used to it. Germans don't like to think about the idea of just trying something completely new and trying guns, because we're still a bit afraid of the whole idea. So our society would have to get used to it eventually. And I am totally in favor of gun rights. But that has to be a long-term issue. and right now we have so many illegals in the country that are here as Germans.
Starting point is 01:45:51 The number one birthday in Germany is January 1st, and that's just because a lot of illegals or like people who came across the border say are registered as having their birthdays on January 1st. So yeah, it's a very bad system. The entire system is just very infected with corruption. And therefore we need to change the entire system from scratch. I was under the impression that the AFD had made, that the German government had made the AFD illegal to some degree. There are instances where they have already banned, for example, candidates for mayor positions in one of the largest cities in Germany, for example.
Starting point is 01:46:30 And they have made the AFD a far right extremist party, which just gives German intelligence the authority to investigate them, to put them under surveillance, to rate their houses whenever they want to. I have a friend from the AFD who has a bit big impact because he's in the European Parliament and they just raided his house for I think the 28th time. Yeah, he told me that on the phone recently and I said, wait, didn't you say 22nd time recently? And he said, yeah, but that was four weeks ago. Oh, God. All right. Pinochet says the prosecutor also prosecuted the proud boys.
Starting point is 01:47:07 Don't worry, Tim. I'm sure the DOJ won't throw the case and are working very hard for justice. Interesting. So the same prosecutor going after this Brian Cole guy went for Proud Boys. Is that the case? I'll Google chat it. Fact check. Ice court says, how will the government cater to young people when they seem not to be pleased with anything that even Trump does, Blackpill, not grateful and want instant gratification? American Dream does not fall from trees.
Starting point is 01:47:36 Yeah. I don't know if it's just about instant gratification as much as it is. They literally can't see a path forward at all. Like there isn't a future for them. It's not about getting it right now. It's saying there isn't even a foreseeable future where things seem to improve. And that's a very, very hard road. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:56 All right. Ditch says, okay, now I'm depressed. I'm old enough to still think of Halliberry, Hallibary as a hottie, not a menopausal old crone, just lost in the mix old Gen Z. She still posts all sorts of thirst trap photos on the Internet's, though. So you can still look at her that way, if you want to.
Starting point is 01:48:14 Her name is Jocelyn Ballantine. She appears in the docket, the criminal docket of the proud boy seditious conspiracy. So yeah. What Mitho says,
Starting point is 01:48:25 when he publicly apologizes for this, I may listen to him, and then he mentions the quote, I'm not going to read, of Nick Fuentes' loyalty pledge. Apparently there's a viral video.
Starting point is 01:48:35 Like, is that, like Nick said, everyone watching make a loyalty pledge right to me now or something like that? Good Lord. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:41 I'm not familiar with it, but. we can imagine. Oh, here's an important one. Evan Freeway says, perhaps Candace is doing what La Louche from Code Gios did and pitting the world against him
Starting point is 01:48:51 make himself the enemy of mankind and have her fall to unite the world right in this case. Oh, that's amazing. Yeah. What's that reference to? Code Gias. Oh, the anime.
Starting point is 01:49:03 Oh, I heard about it. I heard about it. I never watched it yet. You've got to have a bad guy. Surgeon knew immediately. Kawawi, how do you say, Kawi writer? Candice used to be a progressive activist before she became conservative.
Starting point is 01:49:16 She still acts like a leftist. She spreads division and lies then hides when she has given the opportunity to debate. That's the funniest thing. It's like they said, okay, come on this date. We'll do the show. And she was, well, I can't. Even Nick Fuentes is like, oh, you got to be kidding me. That's, you know, I was talking to these young guys and they were asking me about Candace.
Starting point is 01:49:34 And I just said, isn't it weird that she gets propped up and Nick gets banned? And they were like, yeah. I'm like, I just think that's weird. like how come she's on YouTube and Nick isn't what's going on I still think it's that all about the old trolliness that Nick used to do the old you know used to say things just to throw bombs and stuff I think that that's the thing that people find most distasteful about Nick and that's I honestly think I think that that's why he's moderating his his tone with a lot of stuff
Starting point is 01:49:59 jaded 2000 says dude I love you and Candace both I can't stand this well listen um when this all started uh we actually were at turning point and even the turning point guy said, you know, respect what she's doing and we're friends. So, and she was like digging into conspiracy theories. But when she got to the point where she told everyone to pull their donations from that godforsaken organization, I was just like, wow, man. It's rough.
Starting point is 01:50:29 Yeah, this is, you know, because in order to build your audience, you've got a one up every single day. If you don't, you get boring. and people don't want to watch boring. I mentioned this, I was talking to this guy. He said he was a big fan and he used to watch Charlie at the time. He unsubbed from Charlie. It's sad because he knows there's no more content.
Starting point is 01:50:49 But he goes, to be honest, he's like, I haven't really watched a lot of political stuff lately because it's the same thing every single day. Well, not if you watch Candace. With Candace, it's a new murder mystery, you know, mystery box every single day, something new to get confused about without any real answers. So that's the direction she's gone.
Starting point is 01:51:06 that's that's it if you want look I gotta be honest like has she told you anything honestly has she told you anything she said that they're Egyptian aircraft
Starting point is 01:51:17 okay let's say there are Egyptian aircraft flying around who are they who's flying them what are they doing and why she hasn't given an answer
Starting point is 01:51:23 oh so maybe they're completely unrelated possibly seems weird though right yeah it's about it that seems weird is the thing that gets people
Starting point is 01:51:32 coming back it seems weird and then people can run their imagination and, you know, come up with all kinds of their own ideas about what they think happened, and then they can go back to listen to Candace, and she can pontificate more and make more illusions. Yeah, I was going to say, you know what the most demoralizing thing is? How cowardly most people on the right actually are.
Starting point is 01:51:54 Yes. The Republican Party is a bunch of cowards. I'll give some credit to Ben Shapiro and Stephen Crowder, because they've stood up for, you know. Megan Kelly, come on. You know, what are you doing? Tucker Carlson's great, you know, I like him, but there are a lot of cowards on the right who are just too scared to say anything
Starting point is 01:52:15 about all the BS that's going on. And then, you know, then you've got Trump sick of fans, and it's just like, ugh, the Democratic Party is some weird sludge mess. I don't even know how to describe what the Democratic Party is. But, man, I got to tell you, I talk to people out in the wild,
Starting point is 01:52:31 and it's like politics is so cool. We've reached the apex. There's nothing more to be said. Trump can't be any more or less Hitler, right? It's just nowhere to go. So, I don't know. Maybe I can just come out and be like, Candace is trying to kill me or whatever.
Starting point is 01:52:49 And then people will be like, well. Yeah, I was trying to kill me? Yeah, I thought so. Did I? Maybe. No, I don't think so. No? I can confirm 100%
Starting point is 01:52:59 that Candice is trying to kill me in a video game. In Minecraft. In Minecraft. In my brain. All right. Shaggy for America. I was mad thinking Candice was right, but doesn't make sense. Charlie liked Israel as a state, but not Bibi.
Starting point is 01:53:16 He got Trump elected. The deep state wants this guy. The deep state wants this, you guys are fools. This is, yeah, right. So let me, let me, let me point something out. Charlie Kirk and Turning Point were pivotal in the election of the Republican Party in the House, the Senate, and Donald Trump. why is Candice working for the deep state?
Starting point is 01:53:36 Like, I'm not going to play stupid games and be like, oh, the feds and all the stuff. No, like, no one is helping the deep state more than Candace Owens right now. Nobody is more damaging to Charlie's legacy than Candace Owens right now. And if we were to act only upon actions and not words, and someone asked you, who do you think hated Charlie Kirk the most of Candace Owens? She's doing everything she can to burn down everything he spent his life building. and his family who needs these resources. It's like wild to be like pull your donations.
Starting point is 01:54:08 Are you kidding? Like what is his wife going to do if Turning Point is destroyed by everyone pulling their donations? How is she going to have money for her children? I mean, what's the idea? Yeah, and I find it very disingenuous that she was, Candace,
Starting point is 01:54:22 was the one who, in the beginning of her starting to attack her ending point to say, he said, I will stop immediately as soon as Erica Carr comes out and tells me to stop. So she was putting herself on the side of Erica Kirk. And I thought that was very pretentious because, yeah, Erica Kirk is not saying anything because she's grieving and she has a lot to deal with. Why would she come out and say, I hate Candace Owens or like Candace Owens needs to stop?
Starting point is 01:54:45 She just probably just doesn't want to be involved with a drama right now, understandably. So I just think that's very disrespectful to pretend like she's the only one who can stand up for Erica Kirk. and she's best friends with Erica Kirk, which I don't think is the case. And if, well, clearly Charlie Kirk had had his criticisms of Netanyahu, and I totally understand that kind of perspective. But at the same time, he also stood firmly behind Turning Point USA. And if that was not the case, then he would have made it known to the public. So now to try to destroy Turning Point USA, if Charlie Kirk was still alive right now, he would still be running Turning Point USA. So if Candace was trying to take down Turning Point USA now, if Charlie was still alive,
Starting point is 01:55:29 then it would be completely against what he's promoting. Her claiming that they killed him, I just don't see it. We have not seen any evidence from her. No, if I was a Normie off the streets and I just came into the situation to listen and hear what's going on, what's going on, what's she's saying and what's going on in the situation, like, why does this lady hate this company? Why did she hate Charlie? What's going on?
Starting point is 01:55:51 let it, you know, I would think that. It would, like, exactly, like, if you didn't know any of the backstory, you would come across as being like, wow, she really hates these people, huh? And if Erica Kirk secretly agreed with Candace Owens, and she just couldn't say anything in fear of her life or whatever, then I don't think she would continue to run Turning Point USA, but she has been promoting Turning Point USA. So that wouldn't make sense either. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:18 Kay Ferrari says once Candace changed her ads and she started talking to talking about Blake lively, I stopped listening to her. She knows her audience is now liberal, and liberals hate Charlie, so they love that she is destroying turning point USA. Also, it splits the difference between the two. It's the same type of drama that you get from a Hollywood story, but it also involves politics. It's a sweet spot as far as the type of storytelling she's doing.
Starting point is 01:56:40 Indeed. All right, we got time for a couple more. We got Jason Dix. He says, shout out to the Discord. That's right. Show is in the morning. What is the Casperoo? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:50 Morning Casper. Morning Casper. There you go. You got the 6 p.m. show with Slick and Olivia, and one of the IRL co-hosts tends to join in from the crew. Then you've got the After Dark show. So if you want to find community
Starting point is 01:57:03 of like-minded individuals, you go to Timcast.com, you click join us. I do like that, Olivia. She's pretty great. Yeah. And we do a book club sometimes every Monday's around 7 or 8 on the Discord.
Starting point is 01:57:13 If you like reading books. Have you met that Olivia chick? I mean, I won't say anything. here. She seems all right. She seems all right. All right. Here's one from XZ. It says, Tim, can you ask your guest this? I'm going to try.
Starting point is 01:57:30 Naomi, what is your Leiblingstadt in Deutsche Land? What is your Lieblings Schloss? My Liebling is Heidelberg and my Leibling Schloss is Noshwanstein.
Starting point is 01:57:48 We here in America are Glad to have you here, Naomi. How did I do? Thank you very much. You did great. I understood everything. You're very kind. I didn't.
Starting point is 01:57:58 I actually did. I actually understood everything except for Lieblingstadt. Yeah, they asked me what my favorite city is in Germany. And then my favorite castle in Germany. Oh. So my favorite city in Germany, probably Munich, because it's one of the few cities that have not been destroyed yet by mass immigration. So it's pretty nice there still. I'm personally, I'm from Munster.
Starting point is 01:58:20 and I like it in Munza visually. It's the city of bikes. We compete with Amsterdam, basically. But it's very strong on the leftism side, and we have a lot of Antifa. And they hate me, and they want to kill me. So that's not good. Does the cathedral and Cologne count as a castle?
Starting point is 01:58:35 I know that it's technically a cathedral, but man. Yeah, it doesn't count as a castle, but it's amazing. It's so impressive. Yeah, it's very impressive. So my favorite castle, I'll probably have to say, Neuschwanshine, too, but that's mostly because I haven't seen many castles. Unfortunately, I've seen a few of them, but more smaller ones in the region where I'm from. I've not been that much in the castle regions in Germany because I'm more northwest.
Starting point is 01:59:01 But I like that question. Thank you very much. Yeah. You know, in all seriousness, I think they wrote it in a way that's like as close to English. Sure. Because, you know, English is Germanic and there's, you know. Similarities. You even sound aggressive speaking English as a German. Sorry?
Starting point is 01:59:16 You know, German's language is aggressive. even as you speak English it comes off as you know you're aggressive in English That was the classic Simpsons joke about Russian Lisa walks up to the Russian guy and he starts screaming at her and he's screaming like
Starting point is 01:59:31 Oh no problem little girl Let me help you with the directions that you need And she runs screaming He just sounded like he was screaming at her But he's being polite This is a big meme with German though Yes I see all these memes on Instagram
Starting point is 01:59:43 For example where you have a bunch of words Where they show you what these words are spelled as and how you say them in different languages, and then the last one is always German. For example, butterfly. Schmitteling. I was just going to say the Schmitterling. Dilly 2000 says Tim tells us about your private meeting with BB. I did like several times, but you don't care. It's like the weirdest psycho obsession. He advocated for war. He wanted the US to get involved in war with Iran. People laughed at him. Some people agreed with him. And that was the end of the meeting. He actually spent a long time talking about, I think it was like,
Starting point is 02:00:18 Reese or something? They want you to say that you walked away with a big basket of cash. Well, that's true too, but I mean, it is, I'm kidding. It's like 10,000 of those $7,000 check. Any world leader comes to the White House and says, I'm invited to meet them, I'm going. Like, insane. You know what I mean? In fact, I didn't go to the Pentagon, which I kind of thought was like, maybe I shouldn't go to the Pentagon. Here we go. I like this one. Panda God says only 20,000 people watching. Candace says five times that. Here's five bucks for a failing podcast. Like this is kind of the point First thing I'll say is
Starting point is 02:00:49 Well I mean we're on Rumble Where we have more viewers and we We had like 40K last night So we're in the top 10 What were like number 7 or something like that yesterday I don't know But that's just like a live show And I even said this other day
Starting point is 02:01:04 And it's like there's nothing you can say to these wing nuts Even when I said If we did just one show We'd probably 60, 70% the size of Canada She has a big show with mass appeal And they're just like Aha! Your show's smaller than I was like Yes it's a lot
Starting point is 02:01:16 is. Always has been. She's got way more subscribers on her channel than this channel. I don't, like, am I going to be like, Brad Pitt's so famous? I'm so mad. I don't know. What does his podcast do? I mean, Dax Shepard has like one of the biggest podcasts.
Starting point is 02:01:32 You know what I mean? That photo spread of like all the famous podcasters for the Hollywood Reporter and Ben Shapiro's there and he's kind of sitting off to the side. He's like the other people didn't want to like take a picture of him. Oh, poor bad for him. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I think the the real opportunity right now is it's totally abandoned politics and talking about drunk raccoons.
Starting point is 02:01:49 So that's what we're going to do. Smash the like button. I'll be on every night if you're doing that. Yeah. Share the show with everyone, you know. I mean, when the show first started, everyone's talking about how YouTube keeps recommending the licking the toilet TikTok challenge. And I'm like, you know what the problem is?
Starting point is 02:02:04 And I'm going to be honest with everybody. We started the show apolitical, but political topics were pop culture. It was very because of COVID. The election happened and we got very political. Then over the next year, we drifted a little. bit away from politics and did more, it was like often culture war headlines and things like that. But then politics became more and more pronounced, Trump getting arrested, everything became hyper, hyper political. And then over the last year, we've had terror attacks. So everything has just
Starting point is 02:02:30 gotten to the apex of political and it's drifted the core audience of this show into a heavier political space. Even though it didn't really start out that way, it turned into it. And I think we're drifting back away from it right now and we probably need to, but then you've got AI, market saturation and everything's kind of breaking up. So I don't know what's going to happen. All I know is I'm so over it, dude. People like space weather. I like space weather. I did a space weather video today because it was more fun. Yes.
Starting point is 02:02:55 You know what I mean? Agreed. Yeah. There was a And, yeah, go ahead. I posted something in the slack. There was a allegedly there was a... Oh yeah, no, a jet fell. A jet that fell because of cosmic rays. Cosmic rays from a faraway supernova that possibly happened. But the magnetosphere is supposed to stop that from happening.
Starting point is 02:03:11 Yeah. It's a big deal. Yeah. So we're going to go to rumble. We're going to go to rumble. com slash Timcast, IRL. Come hang out. We're not talking about space weather. We're going to talk about, you know, uncensored, naughty things. There's actually a lot of stories we didn't get to. The report and the Speaker Mike Johnson might retire, which I doubt.
Starting point is 02:03:29 It's just like Democrat propaganda, but we'll get there. You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast. Naomi, do you want to shout anything out? Thank you. I'm on X as Naomi Ziped. So my last name is spelled S-E-I-B-T, which is a bit difficult for Americans. so Naomi and then S-E-I-B-T on X. Not on any other platform, just mostly because they would probably ban me.
Starting point is 02:03:50 And I like X. I support what Elon Musk is doing. I think that's great, so I will continue to say on X. Awesome. Guys, I'm Raymond G. Stanley Jr. You can follow me on X under Raymond G. C.L.L. I'm going to be heading over to the inverted world right now to help out Mr. Brendan Minor. We're going to do a show talking about what they talk about, good times.
Starting point is 02:04:07 And I'll join the Discord because that's freaking fun. I was on there last night after this show talking to folks about the drunk raccoon. blast. It was hilarious for everyone. And Ms. Naomi, best of luck to Germany. Hopefully you guys can get back to where you once were 60 years ago and you can make America great again. So best of luck. You want communism back?
Starting point is 02:04:27 Six years ago, East Germany was part of the communist black. Yes, Phil. Brett. Guys, if you want to follow me, I am on Instagram and on X at Brett Dasevic on both of those platforms. PCC has been off this week live, I've been putting out segments the whole time, so go over to the channel and check those out. Also, I've been putting out several different audio podcasts.
Starting point is 02:04:49 We had a hiccup with the RSS feed. It was not going out on Spotify that does seem to be rectified. So if you are a Spotify listener, you can go find those shows that I was doing over there. I have another two coming out, one tomorrow. One today with Monkey Harlow, another one tomorrow, and another one the day after that. So stuff coming out all the way through Saturday. And then we pick back up the live show on Tuesday. Monday we are doing a pre-record.
Starting point is 02:05:10 Me and Mary will be back. and then we will back live on Tuesday, so go to PCC on both YouTube and Rumble, and we'll see you there, guys. Thank you. I am Phil that remains on Twix. The band is all that remains. We have a big announcement with Rocksmith.
Starting point is 02:05:23 This weekend, you can play two songs from this record here, anti-fragile. You can play Let You Go and Divine for free from December 5th through the 7th, Rocksmith on PC mobile or on PlayStation. So go check that out. You can check out the band on Apple Music, Amazon, Pandora, Spotify, YouTube, and Deezer.
Starting point is 02:05:41 Don't forget the last. left lane is for crime. We will see you all over at rumble.com slash tipcast, IRL. Thanks for hanging out.

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