Timcast IRL - Jake Rattlesnake Uncensored: DEI Consultant LOSES IT After Trump NUKES DEI Programs

Episode Date: January 26, 2025

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So I like the name Freedomistan. Luke originally said Freedomstan. And I'm like, it doesn't really work. It needs more syllables than that. And so those that don't know, stan means city or place of. That's why in the Middle East you go Afghanistan and Turkmenistan. And I was like, Freedomistan. There you go.

That's what we call it, Freedomistan. That's the funny name. Now, it's ironic because we barely have any rights in free dough well it's it's funny because uh apparently you know the crew was informing me that the governor retweeted uh elias coop gonzalez a legislature who said said when i said don't open a business in west virginia holy fuck i regret coming here he said sad to see this but i honestly can't blame him our state favors the wealthy of a handful of big companies the expense of small businesses. Not only that, but we spend like crazy and hardly cut any taxes or regulations.

I do, however, think that our new leadership will steer the ship in the right direction. Morrissey responded. He's the governor, of course. And I know him. We've met him. We've had him on the show. And he said, we will be the leader to make it easier for businesses to grow and flourish. We are 11 days in.

It will make a huge difference. We would love it if folks followed up and told us what problematic and burdensome regulations they want to see eliminated. We will move faster and quicker than anyone to make that happen. The problem for the coffee shop is that everything in West Virginia is a historic building. And so I genuinely believe that the city is woke leftist, largely, and a bunch of local business were fans, but I think they obstruct intentionally to keep people out. That's what the left does. And so every time we have a problem or want to make a move, it's always like, it takes a month to resolve an issue. And they'll be like,

hey, this mezzanine was improperly built. It has to be removed. And we were like, done. We'll move it right now. Well, you know, come back with your plans in a month and we'll go over the plans with you. It's like, okay, month later, we come back. Okay, here are the plans. Okay, the plans are okay, but you got to change it. Come back in a month and we'll go over the plans with you. And we're like, are you fucking kidding me? So anyway, that's where we're at. The other thing I want to say to everybody is tomorrow, we'll do the culture war. And then I might be, it'll be my last show ever because I'm going to get a bone graft so I got a root canal 25 years ago

and root canals don't last forever and my time has come so I have a crown and I was I was at the hanging out in, where were we just now? what's, literally where GC, geez I don't even remember where I'm at.

And I was eating chicken, and I bit the bone, and my tooth cracked. And so I was like, I gotta go to the dentist to get a tooth repaired. It was a premolar. And the dentist is like, look, you're almost 40. Premolars, they crack because of their shape. Welcome to being old.

And I was like, yeah, these things, they come and they happen. And they're like, don't worry, we'll crown it. It'll be super easy. And so they, it took like an hour and it got crowned. No problem. And then they said, your root canal is done. It has to, you gotta, you gotta get it out. And I was like, yes, I know, because my dentist has already told me several times. I went to an emergency dentist and I was like, my dentist has already told me I would have to get it extracted at some point, but they were

trying to, they're trying to put it off as long as possible because dentists don't like doing extractions. And so she was just like, we've got to take it out, and we've got to do a bone graft. There's been bone loss, and it's like a one-year process of recovery. Yeah. So what they do is, so tomorrow I'm going in. I'm at 4 o''clock and they're going to extract the root canal tooth it's been dead for 20 years or 25 years and then they're going to put and this is the best part they're like we have to do a bone graft we have to we have to

put bone there to to shore up the space and make it possible for an implant and all that stuff and i was like okay and then said, where does the bone come from? And the lady was like a cadaver. And I laughed and I was like, you could have said a donor. A cadaver really freaks me out, but I get it. And so it is a one week direct healing process. And so the dentist there, she's more of a dentist. She's like, she runs the whole practice, but she was like, we'll get you good by Monday. and i don't think they know i was like oh i talk like five hours a day how it's it's like it's act it's it's serious surgery your face is swollen your nose is bleeding you have black eyes you have a black eye and it's like legit serious and uh she's like i think by monday you'll be okay and i'm like i don't think

by monday i'll be okay so uh the actual treatment plan says it's usually a one week recovery of like just eating soup and laying down so we'll see what happens but that's the heads up for all of you for those that are wondering Phil will be hosting tomorrow night and then presumably Monday but we'll see what happens I don't know I'm a strapping young lad sort of I'm almost 40 and then there's always the possibility that the surgery goes wrong they hit a nerve my face is paralyzed and the show's over forever fuck

and you'd be like Timmy from South Park you know it's just like this welcome to Timcast IRL I quit I'd quit and go live in a van down by the river and be the half-faced paralyzed guy playing poker let's go let's go to the story though and talk about what we actually said we're going to live in a van down by the river and be the half-faced paralyzed guy playing poker. Let's go to the story, though, and talk about what we actually said we're going to talk about.

This is a hilarious video that's picking up traction where I guess it's like – let me read the tweet from TimCast News. Trump ended – oh, this is End Wokeness. We've got the TimCast News version. The effects of Donald Trump's executive order on DEI are becoming evident immediately. OK, OK. So today I was supposed to be leading a training about environmental justice for a national agency, but it was canceled an hour before it started. Why? Well, because the new federal guidelines from the Trump administration ban not only DEI trainings, but also any trainings or programs about environmental justice. And they're not stopping there. These policies go further, rolling back protections for our water, land, opening the floodgates to drilling,

silencing those that are fighting for justice in any form. And to make matters worse, they're demanding a list of contractors like me who provide DEI and environmental justice trainings. And to be honest, it's terrifying. And the crocodile tears. Okay, so today I was supposed to be leading a training about environmental

Well, there you go. Maybe this is the contracting that they're trying to prevent in West Virginia. Stuff like this. Then I agree with it. There's useless people in the entire world. There's actually no scientific basis for what they do for DEI. Nope. Even in the social sciences, which is not that scientific itself, there's no basis for this.

It's not replicable at all. The implicit bias test is complete bullshit, and that's what it's all based on. And it makes people more racist. When you teach people to focus on race and differences and that's what it's all based on and it all make it makes people more racist yeah when you when you teach people to focus on race and and differences and and when you blame one group for all the problems that another group is having it it strains uh the the ability for people to get along so focusing on on race is the absolute worst thing you can do in a society

that's multicultural or has has multiple races living in it you want to you want to do as much as you can to de-emphasize the differences like race and stuff like that especially when it comes to you know law and stuff yeah yeah going a lot yeah i was going to say one of the great things about the trump administration coming in and one of the things they're doing is that he's put pressure on all of these bigger companies to get rid of their DEI, I don't know, departments or what have you. So what we saw at Meta and what we're seeing now at Amazon and all these big tech companies is that they're kind of cleaning house of a lot of this stuff. So it's good that you see a lot of these tech CEOs now working hand in hand with Trump instead of fighting him as they did in the past administration so you hope you know we'll be able to see him get more stuff done on the heels of that stuff so I think it was Amazon or Meta that

just abolished their DEI department so um hopefully I really it's promising and if it's on the way out then fantastic because it's such a corrosive force and And like the worst part about it, I mean, all of this sort of societal corrosiveness that goes with it, but just having to listen to these entitled fucking Karens speaking to you and speaking down to you like you're two years old about stuff that you know is objectively bullshit is just torture. It's torture. I wouldn't want to subject my worst enemy to it. Yeah, it does nothing positive. There are no, just like you said, there are no benefits to having these programs.

And they all speak with that upwards inflection. Well, did you know? Oh, gosh. Yeah, and another part of this, too, is that you mentioned it earlier, like the implicit bias studies were based on bunk science, and then we're seeing downstream from this different corporations having to implement different policies based on these bunk science and studies and who they have to hire. They have to hire people like these to get it done. And then once you do that as a business, you'll cover more of your bases in case you get sued for something down the line.

A lot of the stuff is the industry of how all this. A lot of it is just insurance against legislation. Well, it's like, oh, you get accused of something racist in your company, and it's like, oh, how can I be racist? Look, we had this DEI person come in, and we paid $100,000 for her. Then the company can offload it onto the individual as opposed to the company being accused of having a culture of blah, blah, blah. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson used to do the exact same thing someone would say oh this person's racist and then al sharpton would say well or not al sharpton but but jesse jackson would say look you give a big check to the rainbow coalition and we'll come and we'll say that you're

not racist but you had to write a big check and then Jesse Jackson would come and say, no, I know these people, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. They're not racist. And Al Sharpton did the same grift, but the system worked. If you get accused of racism, you call up Jesse Jackson and then you write a check to the Rainbow Coalition and then they'll go ahead and they'll defend you.

And then it just turned into a whole business model. Now there's a whole industry. A great business model as well. Yeah, 100%. I mean, how easy is it to become a freaking wellness coach or something these days? You take a stupid little course and all of a sudden you're like some 5'2", like 300-pound black woman telling you what to do. But it's not a stupid little course anymore because once you go to school and go through the humanities course, class is necessary to get this which is you know

whatever sixty thousand dollars or a hundred thousand dollars i think that you can get it much easier than that if you if you just do like a course like outside of online yeah but that's not that's not that doesn't have the same gravitas that going through school and getting a degree and stuff and you get a degree and then you get released into the wild and you can open your own blah blah blah or whatever and then you can make the real big bucks twenty thousand dollars for a dinner where you get to get a bunch of white people around and and the one brown person calls everybody racist yeah like that's the legit struggle struggle that was i forget what her i forget what her name was but it was was in the Am I Racist movie that Matt Walsh just released.

It's like they take the white ladies out to dinner and then there's that one black lady. Yeah, and there's an Indian and a black woman and all they do is they just listen to the white women, tell them how racist they are, and then they say, yes, you're all racist and blah, blah, blah. And they say, well, we're not. We're perfect because we have brown skin and you guys are all horrible and it cost you pay like twenty thousand dollars like each woman gets ten thousand dollars for an evening to sit around and call you racist it's the most it not only is it bad but it's also stupid people getting relieved of their money stupid people that have too much money they just go ahead and say well i want to feel better about myself so i'll give these two women you know some of the

biggest bucks you can get is like if you get government contracts and if you get contracts from big corporations you have to fill fill out their quota of like wellness or whatever you can literally pose as whatever you want you can be a retreat like a breathing breathing technique retreat or something and you charge corporations yeah exactly to bring to bring their their um employees there for and they can fill that fill out their wellness quota or whatever that's when you say quotas and you start talking about big business like i have a degree in economics dude all this is is esg when i was coming out of school in what 2017 28 27 when i graduated all they were talking about is this new implementation of ESG. All ESG is, is how fucking woke are you?

If you're woke enough, and you're like just to the point where, oh, we can choose to invest money because you need all these particular quotas and stipulations and all this, that's what the big money is behind this. That's what's pushing all this stuff. That's what we have, you know, Dylan and whatever her name is, his name is, not her name. Dylan Mulvaney and all these people is because

there's a behemoth of money behind all this stuff that was for however long it's finally those companies have realized that like you know the public doesn't want these things and some of them are turning around it's interesting though how it comes from these big massive financial industries though and these these sort of black rocks and vanguards etc who have and if you think about what what esg actually is is it's them having the levers of control over the financial market and over all of these companies where they can say, well, you have to do this, this, and this or else you won't get financing. I used to work at a recruitment company and they were like to us

because we had an office in Melbourne and there was like five of us in the office and they were like, guys, we need to hire somebody else. And they said, it has to be a woman. And we were like, all right. That's South Africa, bro. Same thing. And we were like, why? Because in order to get financing from these massive financier companies or whatever, we have to fill out this quota.

Yeah. In South Africa, they did racial quotas a long time ago. But you had to hire three black guys to one white guy. So there's a bunch of people that are very incompetent going to work these jobs that are causing a lot of problems etc etc so that all comes on the road and now the country is completely falling apart and that was like legal stipulation but this is the same thing when it comes to money and stuff like that it's even if not even more dangerous and more controlling because money makes everything happen maybe money makes the entire world function you say okay well we can just we don't like this

business we don't like they're making money we don't like this business. We don't like that they're making money. We don't like that people are confident in this business and investing in it. We don't want it to exist. Well, let's just see if we pull a string here and pull a string here, and that's what ESG is. They can just get rid of you. They can debank you just a longer, circuitous way.

Have you ever seen ESG scores in the companies that are lowest down? You've got Tesla has a really shit score. The thing is, too, is that i used to work in pure procurement in a big media company in the past and we were specifically incentivized to seek out majority minority or woman-owned businesses because if we purchased enough from them from them then we'd receive a tax break so we were you know incentivized to find businesses to try to get a tax break and half of the time these companies aren't actually majority woman or minority owned to begin with.

It would be somebody who owns a company and then let his wife put everything under her name or stuff like that. And really only just making more of these perverse incentives. Behind every strong woman, there's an organized man. Well, exactly. And it's just like, well, what am I trying to accomplish here? Finding the best deal for the best dollar or a woman who's doing this job so I could tally how much money we spent with women to brag about it at the next women's conference. That's what they want. And now look how much we're spending with women.

This is our program to promote women is spending money with them. When I was working in that recruitment industry, I remember I uh, we were, I was hiring for a big renewable energies projects. God forgive me. Anyway, anyways, they, it was great, great, great, great money though. It's all like, you know, these big government contracts, tax money. Yeah. Yeah. So they, they would, um, they would tell us if you can find someone who's Aboriginal,

which is like indigenous Australian or a woman. Is that what you guys call your natives? Yeah. yeah. We'll roll out the red carpet for them. If I ever found an Aboriginal woman, baby. That's hot property. I got something funny for you. There's a brewery, and I think it's like a restaurant.

It's called Abolition Aleworks. They call it ABO for short. And all over the inside, it says ABO everywhere. There are pictures that say ABO, ABO. And we brought one of our Australian friends in there and he went, holy crap. He's like, you guys have no idea what this would be like in Australia. It's like just having the N word everywhere. It literally is.

I have the worst experience like that. I used to live in London for three years and I was working at this brewery and the security guards were all these like Caribbean black dudes. And in Australia, if you say wog, it means like Mediterranean, it means Italian, Greek, Spanish, et cetera. And I went to the security guard and I was like, hey, dude, there's a guy starting trouble out the back there. And the security guard goes, what does he look like? And I was like, he's like six foot tall wog guy.

The security guard goes, what? He goes, in England, it means like Dolly WOG, which is the black face with the girly hair and everything. So he wanted to punch me. I was like, WOG, WOG, you know, like Italian. It means something totally different. It's like saying the N-word. You're talking about the whole DEI stuff.

It does make me wonder, if it wasn't for the decade of free money, 10 years of zero interest rates and however long it was that the dollar has been unpegged from the gold standard. I wonder if the money itself had value, if there would

be as much demand, or if the economy would support these nu you know nuisance garbage uh stuff no way because because there's no value in it most things that don't have value will lose value very quickly that's the whole that's the whole story that you learn like economics 101 which is the dutch tulip uh tulip boom like the tulips have no value but they grow all these different colors of tulips and stuff like that to say oh well this is a specific kind of tulips eventually i realized these are just flowers and in holland they grow

everywhere like we all over the place and they're like this has no value and that's like it's literally one of the first things you learn and yet for some reason modern monetary policy policy comes out and they're saying don't worry we're going to put it all on our workers back for work because they can work forever americans will work and do everything for free even cheap and you know they weren't diminishing labor force you guys weren't right they were talking about the h-1b visa guys that they're trying to come and cut chicken at chipotle you know so we'll go to callers but uh someone sent me a chart of all the states that have the same laws west virginia and it's basically all of them tennessee is absolutely included pretty sure texas michigan doesn't there's something called common

law which is basically it's a broad interpretation where it's kind of like we trust you that these are contractors for a reason. And then you have the ABC test places. Holy fuck. This is relatively new. States have been passing the ABC test laws. They've outright banned contracting. The ABC test law basically says that it's got the standard provisions like the individual is allowed to work on their own time to do the issue. But the second provision, the B, is that they can't do any work related to the business.

Really? Yep. What does that work? So we can't contract journalists. Huh. Oh. Fuck. Yep.

We can't contract anyone who makes any kind of media in any way it's bad news a lot everybody fuck but this is fucked because the way the media industry works is that like elad will contract with a bunch of different people depending on who's offering a contract and so like elad will be like hey there's a thing coming up and we'll be like yeah go do it and then he'll invoice us under west virginia law we can't do that anymore because that's the scope of the business meaning you have to be an employee which means you can't work for anyone else and your career is over that's fucking retarded is it some pro merrily like that as well is what new hampshire let me uh let me pull back up the chart and see if i have it uh new ham yep yeah uh texas is not texas's

common law meaning that they give you broad discretion to determining what is or isn't uh then you've got the limit virginia is a limited meaning it's it's they fine you if they find that you are you know misusing it this all has to do with a ruling from the federal government. It was in – let me see if I can pull this up. It was in 2021. Where is it? Department of Labor issued a rule clarifying the independent contract criteria. And since then, states across the country have been enacting these gig economy restrictions, which have basically made it impossible for companies to contract special talent or special work.

So what we have to do now for West Virginia, anybody who's unemployed has to have a term contract. So we have to set a time limit. It has to be reasonable. They can't quit. They would incur a penalty if they try to break the contract. So we have to, we have to do crazy ass shit.

Yep. Sounds like it almost be easier to import somebody from India to break the contract. So we have to do crazy-ass shit. Yep. Sounds like it'd almost be easier to import somebody from India to do my job. I'm joking. Don't do that. Nobody could do that. Don't import podcast. Let's grab Brian T.

You are on the program. Oh, fuck. Hey, thanks for having me on. Howdy. First time I've called in this year. Now, my question was actually for the panel. You didn't cover it tonight, but Thomas Massey, Representative, you had him on last night, introduced a national constitutional carry bill

into the Congress. Yep. The president, Donald Trump, has indicated his support. What he wanted to do was get national reciprocity going on, which, Phil, you know, reciprocity, constitutional security, two different things. But do you think that that bill will get out of committee unless Donald Trump gets behind it? I don't think that the bill would get out of committee even if Donald Trump gets behind it. I'd love to see it.

I'm 100% behind it. I think that it's the actual correct stance on the Second Amendment and that should be nationwide. But I don't think that there is the stomach in the House to get it out of, you know, to get an actual vote on it. And even if there is the stomach in the House to get an actual vote, I don't think that there'll be enough votes to get it to pass. And I don't think that it would pass the Senate, even if it did. Well, I have a bet going on with several members of your discord community, Tim. I'm well known as hating cheeseburgers. If that vote gets to the actual floor of the House and gets a vote, I will eat a cheeseburger on live stream.

Wow. If you can't finish it i'm here yeah i mean i think thomas massey made himself a lot of enemies in the past uh speaker race yep um so i don't know how many republicans are going to be in a mood to work with thomas massey he's made a lot of enemies and um he's kind of known as an obstructionist i'm glad he introduced legislation like this but if you don't build up any political clout in congress and uh he was the sole um republican to vote against um speaker johnson uh i don't know how well that's going to go if you don't have the speaker on your side trying to advance legislation in the house rod he had good reasons for doing that i'm sure he did but i'm just saying as far as passing the legislation moving forward if you don't have the speaker on your side and

you're the only guy in congress the only republican in congress who voted against him for the speakership then good luck getting your legislation passed is how it works in the house so yeah no i'm right there with you uh you're you're a realist just as I am. And anyway, thanks for having me on. I'll be back, maybe. We're looking forward to it. Right on. Well, thanks for calling in.

Yes, sir. Well, all right. Let's see what we got next. We've got Minimat21. You are on the show. What's up mini matt are you muted matt all right we'll have to come back to mini matt and let's try shadowbox design what is that hey how we doing first time calling in this year as he said what's up i will just make the case. I know somebody said earlier, Indiana. I know some folks who work in the state government. So if you guys had any interest in coming over here, just reach out. I can get you connected.

Just moving on to my question, though. I recently had a conversation with a Mexican co-worker about deportation of illegal immigrants, and he brought up an interesting question. Of course. I would believe some definitely would. Some definitely would consider that. I'm sure some would say they have nothing to lose. At their own peril, you'd hope. You'd hope not. But many of these people are also gang members,

and many of these people are criminals who use violence to advance whatever goals they have anyway. So that's at least how I see it. Yeah. And if they do, then I'll flip. Certainly not a good thing that they're here. No, not at all. But, I mean, at the same time, if the option is they're here no not at all but i mean at the same time like if they if if the option is you know they're already criminals and they've committed crimes in the past and they're gonna

get deported i i don't and and they're living all you know under the you know they're living in the shadows anyways i i imagine a good portion of them would would be like you're not getting me i'm not going you know and they might not like i don't imagine them being directly confrontational but i do think that like if they could you know if they like i am i can easily conceive of them stabbing a police officer so the police officer lets them go and then hightailing it. I don't imagine a gunfight where they're actually trying, where they're looking to kill the cop like you see some

aggressive perpetrators do, but I can definitely see them shooting at a cop to try and get the cop to duck and let him go so they can run. Yeah. Well, I appreciate you answering the question um and just thank you to you guys for what you do um and i wanted to say to tim specifically um you and some other

guests on the show like last year kind of inspired me to get into um serving my community and i just got my emt certification um last month. So moving into that. And this is also an announcement for everybody else watching. Just the other day I put this up on, or I guess just a couple hours ago, I put this up on my Watchmen Clothing Co. You can use code TIM for 15% off now because I know a lot of the people I get purchases from are from your Discord. So I just wanted to put that up for everybody else. and yeah i appreciate you taking the call right on well thanks for

crawling in yep all right well let's uh let's grab tyler today news what is going on dude thanks for having me guys um so my question today is for the panel now that the mexican drug cartels have been designated as terrorist organizations, what actions would you be in support of to go against the cartels, such as declaring war, sending in troops, using drones or whatever other actions we might have to take? Mark and reprisal, not war. That's what it's supposed to be. That's when we isolate a singular group and we target them with our military without declaring war. So, yeah, we should shut them down. I don't know that I have enough strategic and tactical expertise to determine the

best ways to do it, but I would support Donald Trump and his efforts to stop the cartels in whatever way he sees fit. I'm down for drone strikes against cartel members, depending on the crime. Obviously, if we're attacked by the cartel it's all hands off preferably it doesn't have to get bloody because i don't think we're ready to stomach a prolonged battle against the cartel on our southern border it would require us really going in and overthrowing mexico given that they are a narco state so it's just so ingrained in their society that anything below um regime change in mexico i don't think would really give them all little pages for them to carry around yeah yeah and then and then once enough of them have it we could just boom

well hey maybe we need to hire massad to infiltrate the different cartels um but the cartels are totally infiltrated in the government in mexico so you know you don't want massad to work your way through uh and maybe they'll be the next president over there because of the fact that the u.s has so much influence like geopolitically with mexico i i understand i'm not debating what you're saying about the infiltration and stuff, but I think that the U.S. can offer a whole lot more pressure than you're giving credit to the U.S. for being. Sure. I think we don't want shit to hit the fan with Mexico. Mexico is one of our largest trading partners. And if there's violence right on our border, that's not something that I think Americans are going to be happy or comfortable with.

So that's why you kind of have to deal with Mexico. How many people have died already, on the mexican border i feel like i mean from like fentanyl that's being oh and that's a whole different question but as far as like i feel like i feel like the american people look at that as the same question that if that's the case that we're counting those as like a real not real deaths obviously they're all real deaths but i think there's a difference between the cartel physically shooting and killing somebody versus somebody taking drugs and overdosing and dying. But there's hundreds of thousands over the past handful of years of Americans who have died from the fentanyl crisis. That's more the most Americans that have died.

If you compare it to a war or something, I think you'd have to go back to Vietnam to have a comparable number of casualties. I think of the war in Afghanistan only had a few thousands, if I'm not mistaken, deaths. So if we're comparing those two, it's a crazy way to comprehend. Yeah, I look at that. And I think that the Mexican drug cartel problem and coming over the border in America is much more directly significant for Americans than any other war in either Ukraine or in Israel or in any of these other places. So to not consider it a genuine threat to get your military involved, but to want to send boots on the ground in Ukraine,

which is happening, they do have people training the people over in Ukraine, is absurd to me. They're literally coming onto the border. Well, they have drones even over the border. Yeah. And they get tunnels underneath it. And it's insane. It's something that the American government will eventually have to address on a large scale.

Yeah. And again, it's something that we will have to be doing with the cooperation of the Mexican government that is a narco state. So, again, that's where it's like a lot of issues. It's a big knot over there. And once you start unraveling it, it's, you know, once you get the ball rolling on this stuff. If you were to annex Mexico and make that another state, you'd have some great real estate there on the beach.

We did. And Polk gave it up. Yes. We won. It was the Mexican-American did. And Polk gave it up. Yes. We won. It was the Mexican-American War. We seized almost all of Mexico. And Texas as well and that whole area.

But they kept Texas and gave away America? They gave it away to Mexico. And the American people were pissed off. We won it through conquest and he just gave it up. Beautiful down in Mexico.

Yeah. Beautiful. I've never been. I was in Tequila earlier in the year and I was in Guadalajara and beautiful. But I was in Tequila earlier in the year and I was in Guadalajara and beautiful but like I was in Tequila which is where they make Tequila funnily enough

and we were there at like 5pm in this really cool brewery thing and we were drinking Tequila with some of the local Mexicans and then it started to get dark and they were like you gotta get out of here and we were like why? we're having fun, we're drinking Tequila with the locals and then they just said the cartels come here after dark and they will fucking kill you.

Wow. They're saying now that Trump labeled some of the Mexican cartels terrorist organizations, it could be dynamic in how the sanctions affects them because the cartels so heavily involved in different industries in Mexico, the avocado industry, the tourism industry. The cartel really has their hands in so many different things in Mexico where if you start going after them, there's so many legitimate businesses that they're connected with where it's very – they're just so deeply ingrained in Mexico's government,

their institutions, their society where it's like you're really trying to split hairs to remove them. And it would take a big political will a large political will to address it so yeah yeah i mean they are absolutely everywhere over there and you speak to the locals and they'll just tell you about it yeah they're the ones running the streets the common police enforcement it's really done by the cartel and like as i understand like half of mexico so yeah literally and and like i said when i was i was in guadalajara for a month just living there and i always i just speak to the to the locals and be like what's it like with the cartels and everything over here and they'd be like you can't really see them but they're

omnipresent right and they have basically a monopoly over crime in these places and they have a monopoly over violence and anytime anything happens it doesn't go without the cartels no that's insane they're they're the de facto police presence. They have sovereignty in most of Mexico, so it sounds so. And like, they are brutal. Brutal. And even in El Salvador, they're all like devil-worshipping.

They're all Satanists, all of these MS-13 people that actually worship the devil. And in Mexico, it's like life is so cheap. They will kill you and they will not even think twice about it at all. Whoever you yeah yeah life is so cheap it's sad yeah yeah we're over here and we kind of think we're worth a damn but you go over to those places and you hear the stories and it's like they will kill you just if you if you're a potential witness to a potential witness yeah

you're gone it's really hard to fathom the freedom that we are blessed with in this country and opportunities were given especially compared to someplace like mexico because it's difficult for even for me to comprehend that yeah when i was doing that documentary about pablo escobar and his um his uh prison that he built um we were speaking to the dude who were who like you know runs it and they were saying that a few weeks ago they found 11 more bodies underneath there and what they would do is when they would get strippers there because pablo escobar was just partying there with all of his boys they would get strippers there 10 20 strippers for a night they would kill them all at the end of it they would take them downstairs they would kill them all they would put their body in acid or bury their bodies underneath the thing and it's like every single one of them dead.

And not think twice about it. Not think twice about it. Just laugh. Just so they could, they could have some titties for the night. It's just insane. Yeah. Discount human life that much.

It's just such a disgusting thing. And then they would tell, they would tell the people who, who had been suspected of anything, basically, you got to come up to the, to the prison and it's your time. And if they and if they if

they refused then they would kill their whole entire family but so they had to go up there and know and we entered this torture room which was like the eeriest thing ever and these people um knew that they would be going up there they'd be interrogated and tortured in the worst way possible and then they were going to be killed can you imagine that drive up to the prison dude i used to watch like some of the vile, gory content on LiveLeak and a lot of the most fucked up stuff would be Mexican cartel members doing things I don't even want to describe. And that's where a lot of the gore and vibey stuff,

you'd hear the Mexican accents and speaking Spanish well. And fuck, I don't know what else to say. It's disgusting and nerve-wracking and scary because if american politicians american journalists get involved with this i'm scared they do hear what they do in mexico and really rule by force and what does a gang member care if he kills a journalist who's covering things they don't like seeing on the other side of the border and then just go scurry back onto mexico i don't know. It would make me scared to want to report on anything on the border if I knew that people on the border were getting murdered for it

by cartel members that we can't do anything about. It's crazy to think what human beings are capable of. I know I keep on referencing it, but the video that we're releasing soon, which was the one where we went to Cambodian prison, and we interviewed the last remaining survivors of the genocide, like the torture methods that they would use, like they would like be electrocuting their balls and then like lashing them and just the worst kind of torture that you can imagine. They'd be putting hot irons up their ass and just, you can't imagine doing that to people. But the reason why they did that was because there was this sort of hierarchy of fear. You had these young guys down the bottom who were the enforcers of it, who would actually enforce the punishments. But they knew that if they didn't do that, they'd be killed by the guy above. And he knew that if he didn't do it, he'd be killed by the guy above all the way up to the top. And that's the way that these sort of communist fear hierarchies work.

And just down the bottom, it's just the things that they do to prove themselves. Tyler, did you want to add anything else before we jump to the next caller? No, I want the next caller to get on. That was a great conversation. Thank you, guys. If I could just real quick ask everyone watching to please add to their YouTube watch later my interview with Joshua Matthew Black on my YouTube channel, Tyler Today News. Joshua was shot by Capitol Police on January 6th, and I think he'd be a great future guest. Wow.

All right. Well, thanks for calling in. Thank you. All right. And we'll try this one more time to get many met on the show. What is up, guys? Sorry about that. I was hitting the button and it wasn't working. Oh, it happens. Thank you so much for taking my call. Very long time listener and watcher. First time caller. Awesome. My question is for the whole panel.

Given Joe Biden's pardons, how much of a fuss are we supposed to make over this? I am personally pretty disgusted by all the pardons that he has made. And what are we supposed to do? What's the next move for the country in regards to this? We bring his entire family before Congress to answer all questions, now that they have immunity and they can't plead the fifth? That's about all that you can do.

I mean, it's a horrible, horrible thing to think, but honestly, it's done. He's gotten away with it. The strong and powerful and influential do what they can, and the weak and people without any power or influence suffer what they must? Yeah, I mean, you've got to kind of let sleeping dogs lie at this stage,

and they've tarnished their reputation and sort of, like, stolen all the cash on the way out, proverbially. But, yeah. The whole pardon game we talked about a little bit earlier on the show I think is a dirty game. I think undermines the judicial system on both sides. All political sides have buddies and backs to be scratched. And then the power goes to the bureaucracy.

It has to go somewhere. Well, if the judicial system has integrity and you trust and believe in the judicial system, then that's what we have. It's definitely not a perfect system, but it's the best system that we've gotten to. But then the worst system is just having one guy who happens to get

elected president ever being able to, but you can make the exact same argument for the president it's like well the president if the president is just and if we trust in the president he should be able to to exact this executive this i just think it undermines the whole system in a in what are supposedly co-equal branches i'm not under any illusions that the branches are actually co-equals but under the constitution that that's what it seems to be and it just seems like a too powerful of a check from the president on the should he have executive power to go to like um for example uh well i mean he can't really go to war exactly can he but should he have executive executive power in general sure well he's the commander

in chief when it comes to the war stuff i just think like the pardon stuff is a i feel like it's also unique to our country minuscule though compared to some of the other executive orders that he's sending 150 000 people sure but i think it undermines the other branches in a different way congress is also supposed to um sign off on going to war but yeah he's the commander-in-chief and that's one of the sign up. Congress is the only legitimate means for the United States to go to war. Anything else is understood to be the foreign policy branch, the executive. And he wears the hat of the commander in chief. Yes. I just feel like that's why Congress declares war.

Yeah. As a check and balance. Yeah. I just think the pardon power goes too far in both powers. It's inevitable that both sides will abuse it. I'm interested in your opinion on this. Do you think that the Congress voting to give George Bush the power to go to war in Iraq was legitimate?

It's legitimate in the way our Constitution and laws are set up. Why? Because there is nothing in the constitution that says that the congress can abdicate the responsibility of declaring war and give that power to the president is that what they did or did that's exactly that's exactly what they said authorization we are going to vote to uh give the give the power give the responsibility they're basically saying we don't want to touch this. We don't want to be held responsible.

So we're going to let the president make the decision. But there is nothing in the Constitution that says that Congress can give that authority to the president or that they can absolve themselves of that responsibility by giving the authority to the president. I don't think it absolves them of responsibility. I think it's them signing on to the president's decision to go to war. That's how I see it. It's kind of a co-sign and it that go on under the blanket authorization to use military force. Sure. So the evidence that it was a bad idea is we're still doing this 20 years later. Sure.

And that was Congress's decision, and I think they're co-signing the president's ability. Nonetheless, the pardon seems like a dirty trick for any party or anybody who's eventually going to come into power. Well, for all future presidents out there, just don't pardon Elad for anything. Well, I would never break the law.

Duh. Show me the man, and I'll show you the crime. Prosecute him unjustly, and then don't pardon him. Prosecute me on doing contract work in a state where it's kind of illegal. I'm kidding. Attorney General of West Virginia.

Don't come after me. Yeah, like the gist of all of that is the thing that makes West Virginia unique relative to the other states is the requirement that they operate as a business. And then it says in the law that they could also be contractually obligated to file taxes, which makes no sense because it puts the liability on the business, not the individual who doesn't pay taxes. But, of course, it's about enforcement, and the enforcement they're taking is they're telling us that you can't do that. They're telling us outright we have to – anybody who contracts has to be a business. I'm not Hunter Biden. I pay my taxes. That's fucking wild.

And a lot of the other states have done the exact same thing as of recent. They've basically said, like, nah, you're not allowed to work. You have to be under employment law. It's so fucked. They're just the shit that's going on that people just largely don't get. My grandpa told me that when he was a kid and they started issuing out Social Security numbers, everybody was fucking pissed. They were like, fuck you. I'm not going to register a number with the government.

Go fuck yourself. He's like, then you're born and you've always had one and you think it's normal it's wild we're gonna be we're gonna be 67 years old and we're gonna be like what do you mean you're trying to get a job you're not allowed to work yeah yeah you you you aren't you happy owning nothing and that and the kids like we're gonna be old being like you should have a right to own a car and then the kids gonna be like you don't own a car you just use the app and we're going to be like we used to own our own cars it's like no it's death by a thousand regulations there's a book called i think it's like barbarians to bureaucrats i think it's a book about that um and it basically talks about the life cycle of the business going from

the visionary to the builder the person who sort of implements it to eventually you get to the stage where you have the like then the person who sort of takeslements it, to eventually you get to the stage where you have the person who sort of takes it out to new pastures, the explorer, and then you get the bureaucrats that come in, those sort of like useless people who don't necessarily do anything. And then it goes back to the barbarian stage because the barbarians will come to the gates when the bureaucracy becomes thick enough.

America's definitely there at the moment. Well, it's kind of like the fourth turning. Yeah. And then you're going to have the barbarians at the gates who are like the libertarians who are coming in who are like, hey, this is bullshit. You might get to that stage.

Good, sir. Miniman, did you want to add anything else? I want to ask you now, can I tell a very short story about my experiences with the law and regarding the Second Amendment? Oh, indeed. So, I'm a 25- old truck driver i was uh going through the state of new jersey right next to philadelphia and the state knocked on my door in the middle of the night woke me up asked me if i was a gun owner

i told them yes showed them my ccw from Florida, showed them my gun, and I was promptly arrested for possession of a firearm despite actively following their travel laws through the state of New Jersey. What do you mean following their travel laws? To legally transport through Jersey, you have to start and finish in a place where your gun is legal. It has to be in a lockbox, magazine separate, et cetera. And because my actual load started in North Carolina and finished in Pennsylvania, I was completely legal to transport through the state of New Jersey. Even regardless of that fact, they just knocked on my door and woke me up and asked me if I owned a gun and arrested me for it. Your first mistake was talking to the cops.

Yep. Hindsight's 20-20. Yeah. So anyways, go on with your story. Sorry. Back to blue, baby. That's, I mean, that's the shortest version of the story I can make.

I mean, I was falsely accused by a homeless lady. She's the one that called the police and said he pointed a gun at me. Wow. Simply for telling her, no, I don't have any money to give you. So did you beat the charges or what? I'm sorry? Did you beat the charges? It's currently pending.

I am waiting for the court to – I'm waiting for the state to schedule my court date to enter the diversion program so that at the end of this, my charges can be completely dropped because there's just no point in fighting it. I can't fight it. I can't, it's already ruined my life enough. I got a ticket in DC the other day. We had paid for parking until five and a guy at four o'clock gives a ticket. motherfuckers dude and it's just like why would you do that because they don't give a shit because they don't give a shit to be a to

be someone who does that for a work you gotta love that you know you gotta have like a chip on your shoulder what the fuck am i gonna do am i gonna schedule a hearing to challenge a 50 ticket yeah they know that the average person can't do it. Every step of the way, I could tell that the police didn't want to arrest me. The detective didn't want anything to come of this. The prosecutor only did it to protect his own job. It was supposed to be a summons arrest where they'd arrest me. They were going to take me back to the truck, go get fingerprinted, et cetera. They were going to take me back to the truck.

What's the arresting officer's name? The judge decided to make it a warrant where I have to go to county. And the prosecutor called the judge and argued with him about this. What's the arresting officer's name? I don't remember his name. And to be honest, there was 10 officers there. Well, that's that's the other thing we got to do. I will I will say this tomorrow. First thing on the show, I will I will say the officer's name and say shame on you and shame on your family and anybody else who supports

you in this. And that's what we have to do. We have to make it so these cops are like, fuck no, I'm not getting involved in that. They're going to fucking blast my name on the internet and it'll ruin my life. These people should not be, that's how it used to be. If you streaked through town center when we had villages of a hundred people, they'd be like, get the fuck out of here, you weirdo.

If you were going around smacking people around, they'd be like, we won't give you food. Now you get cops being like, well, I'll arrest him. I don't want to, but nothing bad will happen to me. Well, let's change that. Let's make sure to the extent that's legal, people will know the names of these officers and they will have to make a fucking choice. Do I want to ruin my life over this ridiculous draconian law?

They're going to say no. Right now, there's no consequences for them being evil pieces of shit. Yep. Back to Blue. Yeah, I understand your side of that argument. I do see both sides of it, though. They're just doing their job versus doing the right thing. Then plead guilty.

Plead guilty. Plead guilty. They did their job. You're guilty. You broke the fucking law. Then plead guilty. Plead guilty. Plead guilty. They did their job. You're guilty. You broke the fucking law. Plead guilty and go to prison. Because if you think it's okay what they did, then you should get on your knees and say, I am guilty.

I did it. I don't think it's okay, but I can't do it. I got a life I want to live. Well, that's too bad. The cops did their job. And if they did their job and they were right to do so, then you should go to prison. Did you fall? Were you abiding by the law legally? Did you break the law? I did not. So those cops illegally and maliciously arrested you.

That would be the fight. That would be the argument. But I don't think it's I don't think they would see it in their court. Sure. But I you to decide did they do the right thing in stopping you a criminal from breaking the law or did they violate your rights they violated my rights okay then those cops are cunt pieces of shit who should be in jail understood and obviously it's hard to fight this stuff and sometimes it's easier to you know follow the path that they try to take you down the more you fight back the obviously the more aggressive they'll come after you and and then the legalese that's it yeah i'm not i'm not saying don't live your life and don't do what you have to do i'm saying in in a hypothetical context i know you don't go you don't have the guy's names and i'm not putting it on you you do what you have to do. I'm saying in a hypothetical context, I know you don't have the guy's names and I'm not putting it on you. You do what you got to do to fight for

your freedom and beat this. And we're rooting for you. But in the future for everybody, when these cunt New Jersey officers, and we know they do this, they do it all the time, get their names and let's make them go viral. And then when he goes to Christmas, his family says, get the fuck out of here, you piece of shit. You can't come in our house because cops are conservative my neighborhood turned red for trump because largely cops and firefighters if any one of the guys in my neighborhood were caught arresting some dude and violating his rights we'd better get the fuck out of here dude you fucking scumbag you're not welcome here anymore fuck off make these people fear what their friends are going to say to their faces when they find out that they're cunt pieces of shit.

I'd like to see the word cunt making an appearance in America. It's considered to be one of the most offensive things you can call a person. Yeah. In Australia, we say it as a compliment. We'll say you're a sick cunt. If you say you're a sick cunt, you're a good cunt. He's a good cunt. Anyway, I wish you the best.

Good luck on this case, my friend. Yeah, thank you. I wish I could tell you the full story. And I'm actually actively trying to tell Thomas Massey this story because I know it's going to make his blood boil. Love that guy. Yep. Right on, man.

Would you want to shout anything out? Just anybody watching. If you are a car person or want to get into trucking add me on instagram at minimat21 um super big in the car scene and know a lot about trucking can give you the information get you in the right direction right on well thanks for calling in buddy thank you for having me have a good one you too bye, too. Bye. We got a comment from Dr. Endel. Hype engineer says the I will tweet and ruin a cop's life, but not to influence a state to change a bad law. Let's break this down. The cop committed a crime and is violating the rights of an individual. And that makes him a criminal. Yes, we should stop the criminals. The other scenario is there is a law that was passed and I, using my gravitas,

should force or pressure the government to give me special treatment over the average person. Yeah, I won't do that. I don't think those things are contradictory in any way. So I'm not going to ask the governor to cut me slack and give me special deals. And if a cop violates the rights of a truck driver, I'm going to call him out. That's how we do it. All right, everybody. Jake, thanks for hanging out. It's been fun.

Been a pleasure. Thank you very much. And for everybody else, we're back tomorrow morning. We've got Elijah Schaefer and Brad Palumbo because we're going to be having the debate over Graf Go Up versus We Love America because the low libertarians are like,

why are you even mad about illegal immigration? The economy is better. And I'm like, because these people don't like Christmas and apple pie and I do, and now we're losing Christmas and apple pie. It's that simple. But then I will not be back tomorrow night, because I'm getting my face ripped open and bone

jammed into my jaw. And it'll be fun. But Phil will be here. And other people will be, I guess. Thanks for hanging out, everybody. We'll see you all tomorrow morning on The Culture War.