Timcast IRL - Jeremy Hambly Uncensored: Tucker Says Trump Assassination May Be Solved, Bongino Implies Inside Job

Episode Date: July 21, 2024

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Starting point is 00:01:21 We got this thread of this post from MJ Truth Ultra ultra it's uh one of it's the triggered show with donald trump jr at the rnc i'll give you the quick gist of it dan bongino says that there was supposed to be someone a police officer on the post on that building they never showed up and tucker carlson goes on to say this may be the one potential crime that will be solved i think this plays into exactly what I predicted the other day. Assuming Dan Bongino is correct, I said all it would take is for one person in an official capacity in logistics to say, OK, everybody, you have post A, B, C, D, E and F. And then when it came to that one rooftop post, they don't assign someone.
Starting point is 00:02:01 Each individual secret service agent, police officer thinks they're doing their job normally. But the person running the show intentionally does not assign a security guard, allowing the shooter to go on the roof and do everything they did, catching everybody off guard. Let me play this clip for you guys. But that's what we've become. It's like these morons. Can I break some news on your show? I was going to do with Tucker next, but I'll do it here. So I was just showing Tucker some material from a, a, a, an unimpeachable source. Let's just say on the matter that post, according to my source, that roof was supposed to be a police post. It
Starting point is 00:02:38 was supposed to be someone there. They're now making up excuses saying the pitch of the roof. My source says to me that no one knows why the post didn't show up. But so that's a nonsense story they're putting out in the media. And I was also told that the Secret Service director has been given instructions from the administration and the DHS secretary. If you want to keep your job, you'll keep your mouth shut about this. They're not putting that out there. But if you get those site post logs and those police instructions and it was a post on there and they didn't show up and no one checked,
Starting point is 00:03:07 someone could have got your dad killed within millimeters. So how do we get answers, right? Because I don't personally trust the FBI to investigate anything at this point without politicizing it or weaponizing it. I don't think I would trust them to run this investigation. That's me based on them vilifying vilifying you know parents at pta meetings calling them domestic terrorists how do you get in i guess as someone's been there how do you get to
Starting point is 00:03:31 the bottom of this because i don't trust the government to do that that's the government hasn't earned my trust they've frankly uh they've earned my mistrust over the last eight years is terrifying um but this is but this is maybe the one potential crime that will be solved or at least rectified going forward because, you know, the Federal Protective Services protect politicians and they're almost all physical cowards. They're terrified of getting hurt. And the idea that they could be exposed is not acceptable to them. And so you've got an entire Congress full of people who think or want to be president. Wow. And they think a lot of them think they're going to be, and they don't want to be left out
Starting point is 00:04:10 at a rally with the shooter 150 yards away. Wow. And so I do think there's a built-in incentive for these people to get to the bottom of it because it's terrifying to everybody. That's a really great point from Tucker. Each and every one of these politicians who thinks they may one day be on that stand is going to be like, if we do nothing about this, that ball is going to be in my head next. Shout out to Tucker for using a low-flow showerhead, too. It looks like he's... That's right.
Starting point is 00:04:35 But imagine if Donald Trump lost his life. Imagine the chilling effect. Imagine what message it would send to the American public and how they would receive it. Would they have canceled the RNC? He put that shirt on! Yeah. imagine what message it would send to the American public and how they would receive it. Would they have canceled the RNC? He put that shirt on! Yeah. I'm riding with Biden. If you don't support Biden, you're a bigot,
Starting point is 00:04:52 you're a racist, and you're a homophobe. I support Joe Biden. Me too. And we need to protect the man, and we should stop criticizing him. What do you think of his performance? Great. He's a bright guy, awesome man,
Starting point is 00:05:04 and definitely some undertones there. Sprite guy. Awesome man. And, uh, you know, definitely some undertones there of, of, you know, he was tired. He was jet lagged. Okay. So right. Right. We're Biden all the time. Dan Bongino was saying that there was supposed to be posted there. Someone was supposed to be posted there and they weren't. That's inside job. If his source is correct. Have they found the person that was supposed to be posted there? I don't know. The point is the deep state, the people who founded the liberal economic order, their grandkids have no fucking idea how to run this machine. And it's falling apart. And it's like we're at the point where this assassination attempt on Donald Trump is brutally obvious, not the story they're telling us you'd have to be retarded to think that they they all fumbled and slipped on banana peels and some random kid with a fucking range finder ladder and
Starting point is 00:05:50 gun was able to get on the roof 26 minutes in advance with it with with three cops knowing and shoot at trump and they never once like i'm sorry dude there's a special kind of retardation if you think that's the case now i'm not'm not saying I know what happened. I'm just saying they're, like, they let him in? I don't know. The odds are infinitesimally small. I got there. They're infinitely small that there are
Starting point is 00:06:15 that many failures. If somebody was supposed to be on that roof, I think, if that's true, and I have no reason to doubt Dan Bongino. He has his sources. He's former Secret Service. He's, you know, I don't think he says that to Don Jr.'s face. I think if that's true, and I have no reason to doubt Dan Bongino, he has his sources. He's former Secret Service. He's, you know, I don't think he says that to Don Jr.'s face. I think that also adds to the gravity of it. He's telling him, bro, like your dad was set up, allegedly.
Starting point is 00:06:36 Or somebody didn't show up for work that day and the 5,000 other people didn't check. And that means you don't need anyone in the Secret Service in on it. It means that one guy said, I'm posting all these people here, and they put John Doe fake name, so the security people see it. And then they get this crackpot shooter, and they tell them
Starting point is 00:06:58 we've opened the door for you. This is why I ask did we found the person, have they identified who's supposed to be there? Only because, and maybe this is me having watched too many NCIS episodes or something, but if there really Have they identified who's supposed to be there? Only because, and maybe this is me having watched too many NCIS episodes or something, but if there really was a person who's supposed to be on the roof or assigned there and that person is then found dead later, maybe there's a lot of violence.
Starting point is 00:07:14 It's totally ludicrous. It feels like a Hollywood thing to say. I'm saying it's be wise. They just didn't assign somebody to the roof. That's what I want to know. I want to know definitively, did they assign? I mean, we're never going to know until they tell us. If they did assign someone and they're lying, terrible. If they didn't, sorry, if they said they did, but they didn't, lying, bad.
Starting point is 00:07:33 If they did assign someone, that person is like missing. But they didn't, right? Well, it's really simple. We've got, I'm going to do a random number. We have 10 doors in a stadium. And we've got 30 security guards. And I say, we'll put three at each door. And don't worry, here's your assignments.
Starting point is 00:07:48 And then you as the organizer do not assign someone to one door. And then you can go to the crackpot and say, back door B is open. And that kid might not even know who told him. He got a note slipped under his door and said, the roof will be unguarded. Right. And he went. And then all these other cops and security guards there's this open space with no communication no security nobody doing anything
Starting point is 00:08:11 so they don't realize there's a hole in their security perimeter and they get caught off guard by it yeah that being said the cops knew the guy was there for 26 minutes and said fucking nothing so i think they must be not just that they knew he was a suspicious actor he walked through security this is the latest reports that we're getting in and he was looking at the sniper teams through a viewfinder so he was specifically walking around got into the venue not a range finder it was a range a range finder scout pardon me uh but but he was scouting where the snipers were and he was looking around. He was walking inside the venue and then CNN reported that he was a suspicious individual that through the comms was told to Secret
Starting point is 00:08:50 Service to keep an eye out on him. An officer had an opportunity to confront the shooter. The shooter pointed the gun at the police officer and who then went back down the ladder and then proceeded to shoot at Trump. But they did say that cop didn't have a gun on him, which... Oh, I missed that detail.
Starting point is 00:09:06 I saw that. It just gets more incompetent and outrageous. Isn't that the thing you're supposed to have on them? Hey, there's a crazy guy on the roof with a rifle. Yeah, go up there, but take away your gun. Put your gun down. Are you kidding me? That's retarded.
Starting point is 00:09:16 That makes no fucking sense at all. Absolute fucking inside job, top and bottom. And it's not the burden of proof for us to prove it. It's for the government to fucking prove it. I want the disclosures. I want the testimonies. I want a fucking proper investigation not done by the FBI to find out what really happened here because we need some actual personal responsibility here.
Starting point is 00:09:34 Exactly. That's what I said. That's what I said to Lauren Boebert. I was like, listen, you're going to be questioning the head of the Secret Service. I don't care. She's going to lie. She's going to come out with her bullshit statements, and she's going to lie through her teeth. I don't care. I's going to lie. She's going to come out with her bullshit statements and she's going to lie through her teeth. I don't care. I want the agent.
Starting point is 00:09:48 I want the people who were there. I want the fucking transcript. I want the comms. I want the communications. We need to find out everything now. It'll be just like that other jail security camp. If Trump wins, he gets it. I think he would want it too, right? They'll destroy it. They'll destroy it so he'll never get it. And I think finally for
Starting point is 00:10:03 the first time we might actually be seeing the JFK files at least. I think Donald Trump gets elected. Let's say there's no paper chokers are not retarded, but Donald Trump need only launch an investigation and make the paperwork. a seat and check out a wide variety of table games with a live dealer from roulette to blackjack watch as a dealer hosts your table game and live chat with them throughout your experience to feel like you're actually at the casino the excitement doesn't stop there with over 3 000 games to choose
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Starting point is 00:11:19 And Trump's going to be like, this woman, these guys, and she didn't provide security. That's how it happens. It's such a delicate balance, though, because trump is still receiving protection from the secret service so it's it's like oh i'm about to investigate the people who are still supposed to be protecting me now like are these the people who i want to make mad do i want to try to get some of these people indicted for any reason for incompetence or whatnot but again it's like the people who's protects me boss is going to start going after their own employees so it obviously makes for a sticky situation that
Starting point is 00:11:49 you need cheetle to to step down for there to be a new head who can then investigate the or have an internal audit uh properly i think some of it's going to happen through congress but i don't think we're going to get any answers beyond what more or less what we're getting now i don't think we're going to see... There are more people involved. The story will not change beyond this one individual being a lone shooter, I foresee. Yeah, the wild thing, too, is, as Luke was mentioning,
Starting point is 00:12:14 and everyone else mentioned, too, the idea that this... Imagine you're going to... Let's just say, hypothetically, you're this guy, this super genius that outsmarted the entire Secret Service. How stupid
Starting point is 00:12:31 do you have to be to be walking around with a range finder? You're drawing a ton of attention to yourself. Even that, just nobody saw that. I mean, they did see that, but nobody thought, hey, that's weird. That's why I want to look at it. They did, and they reported to him.
Starting point is 00:12:46 They said he's a suspicious individual that they need to keep an eye on. And for 26 minutes, he was on the freaking roof. And they just lost him. The nerve-wracking thing that I've mentioned before. They didn't lose him. He was probably, this is my opinion, an MKUltra asset. He fits the perfect stereotype. Elad, we could get into it.
Starting point is 00:13:12 And when you look at this person, no friends, isolated, no strong family ties, no social media. Perfect candidate for MKUltra. That's my perspective. That's my opinion. What does it mean if it only takes one very motivated, stupid 20-year-old kid to have an actual shot at the president for everybody else downstream it's a very scary thought to think in a country of 300 plus million that all it takes is one guy who is motivated
Starting point is 00:13:34 and I mean if you don't have secret service protection I'm assuming you'd be able to get a better shot off and most people don't so there's 50,000 guys like him out there friendless, loner you know and they're not doing it. Let's just, I mean, I don't want to cost Tim $1 billion, but this guy had Adam Lanza vibes all day long.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Like, how does he get on the roof? How does he have that gun? You don't think that seems a little weird that he was able to do this? None of it makes sense. You don't think that makes sense? None of this makes sense. That's what I'm saying. It's just like Adam Lanza story.
Starting point is 00:14:00 It's just kind of weird. It's just bizarre. Just this small guy. Who the fuck's Adam Lanza? I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm unfamiliar with that name. Yeah. Is this a...
Starting point is 00:14:06 Sandy Hook shooter. Oh, okay. No, I just didn't know the name so specifically. But we're behind the paywall, so we can say that. I'm just saying that was a weird story because he had all these guns. We're in the day and age where it's like, oh, no, don't name the shooter. It's not kosher anymore. So let's stop being cool.
Starting point is 00:14:19 Except everybody's been naming this guy. Yeah. Yeah. But it's just a story that he's able to get on the roof and then they can't see him. Or like the Wendy's employee had a $5,000 Daniel Defense rig. Yeah, yeah. He makes $7.25 an hour and he's got a $6,000 AR rig. Or the Las Vegas shooter.
Starting point is 00:14:36 That's another one. 30 guys. We never got answers from that. So this is like Uvalde, Vegas, Sandy Hook. It's like all of them rolled into one. It's very weird. So there was a masked man with an AK-47 arrested near the RNC, and there was a knife fight near the RNC,
Starting point is 00:14:49 and a guy got shot, and I think he was killed, right? Yeah, he's dead. That was right by my hotel. Shout out. 800 bucks a night. Is that just the standard Milwaukee homeless? Yes. No, not homeless, but...
Starting point is 00:14:58 That's a local. Local Milwaukee person. The locals in Milwaukee, the townies. When you live here, it's called on the other side of the bridge. You know, it's like it's not a great area. They call it cheese-induced schizophrenia because the people eat so much cheese, it causes an imbalance in their brain. I believe it. The case of morphine is just taking over my brain.
Starting point is 00:15:17 Yeah, it's true. Case of morphine. No, I mean, with all the security around town, the homeless, if you're a lunatic doing drugs on the street, you're more likely to encounter. There's police everywhere. Law enforcement, yeah. And law enforcement will unload on you if you come at them with a knife. So it's a bad time to be schizophrenic in Milwaukee. Yeah, that was like a situation.
Starting point is 00:15:37 I drive right down that road to get to my hotel. So I know the area, King Park area. It's not uncommon there to have situations like this. It's just a big city. Like, it's part and parcel for the big city, except there just happen to be cops there. Because the cops aren't in those areas very often, and now we had 50,000 extra or whatever.
Starting point is 00:15:56 And there were more eyes on it because of the convention. So you grew up in this area. Has Milwaukee changed a lot during your time here? Yeah, I mean, all the best parts of the town have completely decayed. It's like in just 20 years, you used to have great malls at Capitol Court where people would go from, you know, essentially what happens to every big city. All of the middle-aged ladies who shop at the malls, this is how it starts. They get scared. You know, they stop going to the malls.
Starting point is 00:16:22 So there's no commerce. So there's big parts of town like Capitol Court, big parts of town, North Ridge. The whole north side of Milwaukee is like a wasteland. You have the south side of Milwaukee is hanging on, but the whole city, it basically is condensed onto one tiny little area that's safe to go. And that's kind of where the RNC is.
Starting point is 00:16:38 There are some good parts. It's not like it's all a dump. I don't want to say that. But just in my short lifetime, I used to go to north milwaukee all the time there was a best buy there it was close to my house there was you know capital court used to go there for christmas outdoor mall nobody goes there now so like and mayfair mall right up the road now they have 50 cops there all the time because there was a shooting there a mass shooter at that mall like yeah um you know, it's like these malls,
Starting point is 00:17:05 and it's all moving out into the suburbs, so the suburbs are pushing. It's wild to see happen. I've been here long enough. I was in the super ghetto. You told me not to stay in. I told you, yeah. And then, like, 2 o'clock in the morning,
Starting point is 00:17:16 doors are being slammed, cars are going off. What did I tell you? People are screaming. I'm like, what the fuck? There's, like, a crazy bootleg-ass security guard walking around. I'm like, what the fuck? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:24 Let's pull in callers. We'll start with, we got BD Actual. What up? And welcome to the show. Yo, what's up? Last time I was on, Luke was mad at me because I wasn't a girl. Yeah. I didn't apologize yet.
Starting point is 00:17:40 Yeah. Thank you. Apologize immediately. Yeah. Sorry. Sorry. Thank you. I appreciate it. I appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:17:45 It's well known that Tim's audience is nearly 75% female, too, so we're really up against the odds here. Absolutely. Just bad luck, I guess. What's going on, man? What have you to say? Alright, so I
Starting point is 00:18:01 also need to apologize again, but my question is pertaining to when I voted in the primary. So I voted for Donald Trump. But down ballot, I had no fucking clue who I was trying to vote for. I even tried looking it up and trying to be a good voter and trying to learn about the people I was voting for, I couldn't find any information. So my question is, what do we do in order to educate people about who they're voting for?
Starting point is 00:18:43 Is it the republicans fault because i'm not taking responsibility for the fact that there's no information out there for most of these people uh what do you what do you guys think we should do in the age of information i just say don't don't vote it's a primary it's not the same thing if you don't know who you're voting for don't vote vote for donald trump and say i don't know these guys are otherwise you'll vote for a transgender anarchist Satanist in New Hampshire. That happened. I know that person.
Starting point is 00:19:09 I'd say it's most important to vote in, I guess that's because I'm from New York. I'm saying that, but in your primary race is where your vote holds the most weight because the least amount of people engage in that election. And then during the general, usually it's usually in safe districts.
Starting point is 00:19:27 So the primary is your opportunity to engage most with the political process, in my estimation. Depending on where you are in the country, you know, you could have actually really great access to your congressmen or local officials. If you are from a relatively small town town congressmen actually try desperately to reach out to their constituents there's 400 plus different congressmen so if you're a smaller district i would try to part of my work is stalking different congressmen and senators and seeing what little rallies and events they go to it's really not hard to gain access to these guys it's incredibly easy you can engage. You could probably find the people running in these local primaries and actually have
Starting point is 00:20:10 conversations with them. So I'd highly recommend engaging in the political process in that way. Best you can seek out these Congress members or even lower office. And I think, you know, join your local party club. Yeah, going to the local party. Because that's where a lot of the candidates down ticket end up speaking. Right. They have open houses. And so for a lot of them, I mean, one of the big problems or challenges is just that if you're brand new to politics, if you've never run a campaign before, there's not a lot of information on you. So even local newspapers that are trying to, like, write about you don't have much information. So attending in-person events that they have, you know, that takes time is a good one.
Starting point is 00:20:47 There are a couple websites that offer services where they sort of like scrub the Internet for the candidates that are in your area. And I can't remember. But as soon as I find out which one I've used in the past, I'll recommend it. But, you know, one of the challenges for for smaller people is just that there's not the access to them. So it's it's really kind of on you as the voter. And it is difficult to not use like Fox when you're researching local Republicans. You have to go to your local newspaper. You have to go, you know, maybe to that campaign's Facebook page because they don't
Starting point is 00:21:19 have a website or whatever. That's where they're posting their statements. It definitely takes more legwork. And I think that is one of the reasons that generally being engaged with their community is so beneficial, because if you're from a small town, especially like you probably know someone who knows who's running. There's also most congressmen aren't on record on most issues. So, you know, if I had unlimited resources as a journalist, I would have a reporter going to each member of Congress. Most congressmen, people don't comment on anything we just know about the most famous 20 or 30 so i wish it was something that like a local newspaper from the district that like a u.s congressman represents just every day went through their record and was like how did they vote on everything this week and then you
Starting point is 00:21:59 had like just a bullet point summary that goes out every democrat every democratic congressperson should be answering the question about Joe Biden, his mental acuity, what they thought of his debate. We didn't get 200 plus representatives on record about that. Things like that. Engage in your local political process.
Starting point is 00:22:17 It's very important. And it affects your life the most, generally. And you can skip. If you really don't know, you can skip one question or whatever. He got way more than he bargained for, I think. Yeah, we answered your question. I'm sorry, I kept talking there. I'm going to be honest.
Starting point is 00:22:36 I actually personally don't think it was that great of an answer, just because I've heard that a lot. You're trolling. Then what do you want to hear? What answer do you want to hear then what answer do you want to hear then um i want to actually hear like some sort of like winning solution because just telling people like hey you got to do lots of work i mean shit people don't want to go out and vote like even when they know the person you're creating barriers to entry. It's not a barrier to entry if you're not willing to do
Starting point is 00:23:09 any kind of reading. What do you want me to do? Say this is exactly who you should vote for on your ticket? I got it. All you got to do is do everything I tell you and nothing more. You'll never have to read another book in your life. I'll just tell you what to do. You're good. Upgrade your membership.
Starting point is 00:23:25 So who do you vote for in Colorado third district judge? You know what I mean? Like, that's an important office. I got you. Is that where you are? Yeah, is that where you are? It depends if you're a criminal vote for the African-American judge. If you...
Starting point is 00:23:39 We should ask Lauren Boebert about it. It's too bad we didn't get Boebert's take. She would have had a... She would have known, probably. She definitely would have had an endorsement or something or an opinion. Yeah. I mean, I think it's,
Starting point is 00:23:49 I don't know how to get around the research part of this. Right. But like, that's where I would say, turn to your local newspaper. They are covering that race. You just, again,
Starting point is 00:23:57 like it is the biggest challenge for American voters that they have to be informed. And I get that there's so much going on. You can't look at like, you can't necessarily take everything in. Maybe you look towards your congressman and say, who have you endorsed? I'll just vote for whoever you endorse. Like you mean you mean county judge? It just I just gave a hypothetical. Oh, well, it's like, you know, school district. I don't know who's running for school district, anything about them.
Starting point is 00:24:21 And it's important. Like you guys guys say the most important office is local politics and that's where there's the least amount of information but politics is a billion dollar industry and you can't google these things not local school board meeting did you go to any of their events like you can find out information even if it's not on Google. I don't mean to be giving you a hard time. It's just like I don't want to make you happy. You know, one thing comes to mind when you say this. It reminds me of one of the most important elections of our time. It was against a guy by the name of Ruben Studdard and Clay Aiken.
Starting point is 00:24:56 Yeah. And a lot of people said, oh, I'm going to go with Clay. He's a gay twink. They can sing real well. Or I'm going to go with a fat, heavyset black guy. And we went with a fat, heavyset black guy and we went with a fat heavyset black guy and that was the right decision Okay, so you're sometimes you know, the votes are gonna be hard. Sometimes there's two good candidates You have to go with your gut feeling that's what I'm trying to tell you
Starting point is 00:25:16 Like people were like you got the R in your name you got the D like that's how I'm citing It's it's it's I just think the answer is like ridiculously easy. We have a school board election. Who should I vote for? The guy you talked to and told you things you wanted to hear. There you go. That's it. All right. Well, I just think that the Republicans, if they actually cared, they could create something like if Ian Crossland was was here he would say something like oh we need
Starting point is 00:25:45 like a decentralized social media where all the information would be in like i got an idea too i can be just like ian we should build like a ship where we can go on it and like go to mars and then once everyone in the world completely agrees palestine becomes the 51st state no half the time you know he'll be like, I haven't talked to Donald Trump personally, so I don't know. I don't know. I mean, shout out to Ian for all his creativity, but Ian would talk to the people in person. Ian comes to me and goes, Tim, get Brad Pitt on the show.
Starting point is 00:26:17 And I'm like, Ian, what the fuck? Is this Ian right now? I'm not kidding. Ian literally came to me and said, get Brad Pitt on the show. That's a great idea. Why are you doing it? Why are you doing it? Angelina Jolie.
Starting point is 00:26:29 You just have him run on the show. These races are decided by hundreds of votes. And, you know, if you're looking at these lower races in the primaries, I mean, I guess if you're too lazy, you don't have to pay attention to that. But as long as you're voting down ballot every two years, like in those generals, the primaries are still important and your voice will still be disproportionately heard there. But very often these primary races aren't even close
Starting point is 00:26:52 to begin with. But it was a really good question. I'm glad you pushed when you didn't feel like you got the answer you were satisfied with. No, you need to put effort in. If you want to be an educated voter and participate in the political process, it takes time. And that's usually the biggest barrier for most people. So when you could be at home after a long day at work
Starting point is 00:27:08 and playing on your Xbox or playing Magic the Gathering, and it's like, why? Why bother even going to vote? I just worked my nine to five. That's why I tune into Timcast each night at 8 p.m. Eastern. And I get all of my... I tell you what to do. I know it.
Starting point is 00:27:22 Yeah, it's great. It's a great existence for me. Vote Trump. I will do that. I hadn't considered my... I tell you what to do. I know it. Yeah, it's great. It's a great existence for me. Vote Trump. I will do that. I hadn't considered that, but thank you. Well, I think that's as good an answer as you're going to get, Mr. BD Actual. Absolutely. Right.
Starting point is 00:27:36 All right. Before I go, I love listening to you and Styx, X and Hammer, Jeremy, and also my favorite episode of Alex Stein's show is when Ian was on, and they threatened him with a knife and put a knife to his throat, and then Alex got beat up by a giant black dude. I think Ian is still legitimately traumatized from that.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Has he been back on since? Best thing I've ever watched. Well, I appreciate it. Thanks for the compliment, man. Well, thanks for calling in. Alright, thanks, guys. Thank you. Well, I appreciate it. Thanks for the compliment, man. Well, thanks for calling in. All right. Thanks, guys. Thank you. All right. Next up, we have Krondors. He has returned. Hey, good evening, everyone. Hello. What up?
Starting point is 00:28:14 All right. Yo. So, let me get to my question quickly. So, with Trump's victories and Biden's chronic flops, seems like there's nothing short of World War III will stop what's coming in November with Trump's victory. So should we pretty much expect there to be a false flag as our October surprise? Because I honestly don't see how the left will allow Trump to return.
Starting point is 00:28:36 Anything short of like burning down the White House like they like happened, you know, like a century, two centuries ago. Before I answer, I wrote real quick. This whole Colin thing was actually Ian's idea, so I'll give him credit. Shout out Ian! Ian has a lot of great creative ideas. He goes, after asking about Brad Pitt, he's like, hey, we should do like a Colin thing for the members only. And I was like, we can actually do that. Yeah, that's
Starting point is 00:28:56 a good idea. As for what's going to happen, I don't know if you need to say false flag, but the October surprise is going to make you shit your pants. I mean, like, I don't know what's going to happen. Like Joe Biden shit your pants. I'm worse than that. Like it's going to be Chipotle level, like spraying out.
Starting point is 00:29:11 Like, I don't know what to expect, but we've had, I don't know, like Hunter Biden crack pipe laptop leak last time around and they lied about it. Whatever the fuck is coming. That was pretty big. They literally just tried to kill Donald Trump. I don't know what the fuck you can expect in october but you will be surprised joe biden's inner circle who's been telling him to stay in the race post debate has been hunter and jill biden so i think we're in for if those are joe biden's close confidants i think we're in for an exciting
Starting point is 00:29:37 couple months coming up to the election come on man hunter's a great hunter's the smartest guy i know come on man i think uh the the big, the big move for Democrats right now is trying to make Joe Biden more sympathetic than Donald Trump. And it's very, very difficult. And I would say impossible. But I think that's sort of the next thing that if they can control the news cycle, they'll push for. I don't know what it looks like. I mean, I feel bad for him. Yeah, but not enough to vote for him, right?
Starting point is 00:30:02 No, no. You have to have something. All right. October surprise. bold prediction. Let's go geopolitics. Something happens in Ukraine. Maybe a peace deal, Luke? There were some information about that today.
Starting point is 00:30:13 If you're Ukraine... It would have to be a huge buy and win. There's going to be a lot of things that you're kind of contemplating right now. Especially given the J.D. Vance VP pick. If there was one VP pick who was assigned for bad things to come for Ukraine, it would be J.D. Vance. J.D. Vance has been lobbying against Ukraine funding for his entire... I feel like he's more hawkish against Iran. He doesn't speak the way he speaks about Ukraine that way.
Starting point is 00:30:41 I mean, the Biden administration, at this point, we need to bring home every American that is in Russia, like Evan Gershwitz, Mark Fogel, Paul Whelan. He would need to do something the American people see as strong, as heroic, because otherwise he can't compete with Trump. Can they even dribble a basketball? Why would you bring them back?
Starting point is 00:30:59 That's apparently the Biden administration's policy right now, because they're still there. Are they LGBTQ? What are you talking about? They're just regular straight white guys. They're going to rot. Or maybe for an October surprise, maybe something Chinese. China's been a little quiet. How about that?
Starting point is 00:31:13 We haven't heard anything Chinese. Yeah. I actually came up with one that might be a little scary. Let's hear it. I thought that what if Putin kidnaps Hunter and he dies of some kind of overdose over there. That way, now you have sympathy for the son's death and now something towards the war at all at the same time.
Starting point is 00:31:33 No. Hunter's not a sympathetic individual. I mean, unfortunately. I'm glad he got his life together. Let me ask the caller. Do you smoke marijuana? Caller? No no i don't oh yeah well you could have fooled me you have been hot you act high or you've been told what have you been told no and i have like the glazed eye look or something so you just think that vladimir
Starting point is 00:32:03 putin's gonna kidnap hunter biden and then kill him in a gulag is that what you think's gonna happen no no i i think like biden's gonna be uh hunter's gonna be on a trip in you know europe and he's gonna get snatched up and we're gonna find him somewhere in uh putin's country uh clutches and then he's gonna get the sympathy vote that his son's you know not home and you know he's you don't think that would start world war three if they kidnap the president's son if they kidnap hunter biden joe's gonna be like you got my kid and trump's gonna go you vote for me i'll get that kid back i'll get the kid back and they're gonna be like yeah trump's the guy's gonna get the kid back not not joe yeah i don't think i'm sympathetic i think maybe like maybe one of the granddaughters but even then like i don't i don't think this will win in Joe Biden's favor.
Starting point is 00:32:49 Well, I hope whatever does come in October is nothing serious then, or it's not enough to sway people. Thank you for the question. I think it's definitely interesting to think about. You know, and a lot of people are hard on Hunter Biden, but if Sinbad was your main Secret Service agent growing up as a little kid, I think he'd act like that too. Well, right on, Matt.
Starting point is 00:33:05 Is there anything else you wanted to add? Just one thing. Tim, I don't suppose you and Luke can come together to put a shirt together for that phrase of yours, fire everyone and resign. Because I noticed that spells fear when abbreviated. Fire everyone and resign. Oh, I like that.
Starting point is 00:33:21 Oh, yeah. Give this guy 10% too. That's all you, Luke. Trademark it. But make it look like the D.A.R.E. logo. Yeah. Yeah, I like that. Oh, yeah. Give this guy 10% too. That's all you, Luke. Trademark it. But make it look like the DARE logo. Yeah. Yeah, because I was like, if I ever run for the Libertarian ticket,
Starting point is 00:33:30 it's going to be, vote for me, I will fire everyone and immediately resign. So worry about your vice presidential pick. And the debate, they'll be like, yes, but when it comes to tax,
Starting point is 00:33:37 but tax, don't care. I'm going to fire everybody and resign. Okay, well, what about your board? Am I not clear? I don't care about it. You just leave a smoldering pot. I'm going to fire everybody and resign. Okay, well, what about your board? Am I not clear? I don't care about it. You just leave a smoldering pot. I'm going to fire everybody and resign. Libertarians are going to be like, okay.
Starting point is 00:33:52 Yeah. Yeah, that's music to my ears. I love that. Fire everybody and resign. Let's do it. Michael Malice probably likes that. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:58 All right. Thanks for calling in, man. You wanted to shout anything out or what? No, no, that's all. Yeah, if you can do that shirt, that'd be amazing. I wouldn't mind buying one of those. But yeah, thank you for the call in. Appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:34:11 Right on. Thanks for calling in. Sorry, Tim. I've just registered the domain name and the trademark. All right. Next up, we have Lex Dillard. Hello. Howdy.
Starting point is 00:34:23 Hi. Howdy. All right. hello howdy hi howdy all right i have a question that was earlier in a super chat but let's go for the spicy version um i would like to know tim and the panel's reaction to destiny on piers morgan uncensored show today he defended himself after saying on his own show fuck the dude fuck trump And if you get blown away at his rally, I will make fun of you the next day on Twitter. And then he doubled down after that statement and ended the show with saying that he will condemn he will not condemn the shooter. I mean, on Twitter, he wasn't just saying, I'll make fun of you. He wasn't making fun of people.
Starting point is 00:35:00 He was glorifying the death, laughing about it. There's a difference in making fun of somebody. And then he was telling other people they should die too. So, you know, that's like, it's a bit different. Outrageous, and I guess not condemning the shooter, just outrageous. I will additionally add, I will never go on Piers Morgan's show for having hosted them following this.
Starting point is 00:35:15 If he wants to play drama gossip bullshit, then I'm not going to go on his show if he asks me. It's only hypothetical. This is Jeremy, by the way. I really hope that, let's say, I mean I I do think there's a path to redemption for destiny But I think if I had my evil ways like he would get he would get married You know and then like his wife would be banging other dudes and then like he would be forced to watch that would be a great turns destiny on, though. Oh, yeah. He likes that.
Starting point is 00:35:46 Shoot. I would not be a great... Yeah, that's not good. No, but this is the thing. We just said it earlier. He's rage farming. He definitely is now. I mean, come on.
Starting point is 00:35:55 I don't think so. I think he's having a mental breakdown. He believes it a little bit, but he also knows that this is probably okay for his brand. He can't be canceled. It's not, though. It's not going to be good. Even though he says it, now he's on Piers Morgan, you know?
Starting point is 00:36:08 Because Piers Morgan is some subscription show that's not in the U.S. Piers Morgan needs the YouTubers. Tons of people are like, dude, already the conversation is, if he comes on the show and he says that, I'm banned. It doesn't matter if you like or dislike or want to debate him. You get banned in two fucking seconds.
Starting point is 00:36:24 Like, you can't glorify violence on youtube let alone make allusions to it if destiny came on and you were like why is everyone mad destiny like uh because i said the guy deserved to die and i want to get them in the front row as well youtube nukes your show listen buddy listen buddy i wouldn't apologize for anything that was was my destiny impression. It wasn't very good. There's a few things you're not allowed to talk about in the United States. You're not allowed to make fun of George Floyd, but everything else is on limits. You can make fun of George Floyd.
Starting point is 00:36:55 That's the line, but everything else is kosher. 9-11, you know, everybody likes joking around about 9-11. Wait, you don't think you can say George Floyd died of a fentanyl overdose? I feel like that's the most un-kosher thing in our culture now. That's the untouchable thing where if you soil the legacy of St. George Floyd, then everybody will feel righteous in their attacks against you. I said it at McDonald's the other day.
Starting point is 00:37:16 I think Destiny would get more blowback, Destiny would get more blowback, especially from the left if he was talking about George Floyd and making jokes about his death compared to the attempted assassination of Trump. But he's been sober for years now. That's a worthy accomplishment. You're about to get canceled.
Starting point is 00:37:34 I mean, he tries to play the left, though, so yeah. But he went on his own Reddit and told his own fans to go fuck themselves and unfollow him. Like, that's not... Who, Destiny? Yeah. He's having a breakdown. His wife left him, and he's going, but I wanted to cheat on her too it's like no he didn't she cheated on him ran off and now he's trying to act like he's not a cook
Starting point is 00:37:52 allowing your girlfriend to her wife to bang other people is such a recipe for disaster how could you think that would ever go right so outrageous he wasn't she's like she's like i'm gonna leave you and cheat on you it's like usually, usually the woman, we're in an open relationship. Do you think, I think what happens is you think the relationship is going to end. And then they're like, well, this will spice it up.
Starting point is 00:38:10 And then it really just says, destiny is publicly being like, I want it to cheat too. And he's clearly having his brain melt because of it. Like it's, it's affecting him in a way that's like not good for him. That's it. Like he's,
Starting point is 00:38:22 he's it's certainly, there'll be a lot of wing nut internet trolls who are going to be like, ha ha. Good for him. That's it. Certainly there will be a lot of wingnut internet trolls who are going to be like, ha ha, good for him. Piers Morgan's low viewership, subscription only show. Congratulations, Piers, I guess. Yeah, I think he's probably going to regret pushing the envelope a little too far, but who knows? There are a lot of crazy wackos out there.
Starting point is 00:38:43 I'm more with Alex I think he's rage farming, and he's just tripling down because of ego. I don't think he actually I think he I think that he's going to be pushing very close Not that I would have not that I would support this But he's I mean he streams on kick right and like kick has he just got suspended on kick. I saw oh there you go Yeah, he just got suspended on kick. I told you. He's like losing his... His monetization was postponed on Twitter. Right, right. I'm telling you guys,
Starting point is 00:39:09 this is not rage farming. He's burning everything to the ground because he's depressed and he needs an intervention. He's self-destructing, you think? Yes. You can't have him on your show. He will get your show deleted. Destiny, call me up. I'll help you out, buddy. Come on my show. Dude, you can't... It's not so simple, dude.
Starting point is 00:39:29 It's like, there's a similarity in addiction with whatever he's going through yeah where you can't take someone alcoholic and be like i'm gonna fix you they have to want to change and if destiny is going through this mind explosion phase and you say like bro let me come let me help you he will lash out it won't work it's like he needs his mom and his brother and his sister and whoever else to sit him down in a private room that no one knows about and say stop stop it now and take us from him and or he needs to get 51 50. Now you have a point but he's always kind of played with like remember that he had that um era where he was friends with Nick Fuentes you guys remember that yeah I don't remember that well I mean just having him on his channel yeah streaming together I thought that was weird now they hate each other so I don't remember that. Well, I mean, just having him on his channel. Yeah, streaming together. I thought that was weird.
Starting point is 00:40:05 Now they hate each other. So, I don't know. I think he does want to be extra edgy. I think that's kind of part of his shit. He's going through his manic era. He is being manic. I think Tim is right. He has a manic era.
Starting point is 00:40:16 No, yeah. And I mean, edgelording it up on the internet. I don't take people seriously on the internet, too. I've just seen every extreme take ever for so long. And people celebrating the death of their political enemies for so long whenever somebody um right wing dies the internet celebrates many on the left celebrates so it's like it's not unheard of it's not something um that i haven't seen before things have changed there's been a new there's been a new set of rules and sorry tim like i was joking i was being too jokey about it i think
Starting point is 00:40:42 you're actually right um i think when you look at like, for example, alcoholism, people who are depression, they go through a self-destructive phase. And like that this could be, I'm obviously not a psychologist, but I've seen plenty of addiction. I've seen plenty of self-destructive behavior. And well, now he's really, I mean, this was really the worst time for this. Like everyone's going to be extra. You know, I didn't know about kick. Oh, there you go. Kik. Okay, look. You're Kik.
Starting point is 00:41:07 And you're a casino, right? What is Kik? The entertainment portion of steak? It's just a funnel to get people into steak. But casinos have because they want people to come for the show and then stay for the blackjack. Why the fuck would you have this guy shitting all over the floor in your
Starting point is 00:41:24 casino? You'd be like, get the fuck out. What the fuck? Yeah. I think people are also right now more motivated than ever to make a statement and make a stand and separate themselves from, you know, because he was saying this stuff on kick.
Starting point is 00:41:37 So this isn't like kick just banned him. He's streaming on kick saying this stuff. You know, I think Twitter, Twitter pausing his mind i don't as long as like he's a lot he's a lot to say what he wants elon pausing his monetization i mean i guess he's entitled to do that um you know i'm i'm glad he didn't ban him because he shouldn't be banned but he had some posts taken down oh he did well yeah oh i think the caller just left
Starting point is 00:42:02 sorry bud we're talking their ear off well okay well thanks for calling in we really do appreciate it and i guess we'll just jump to the next caller then we've got tim of 2009 welcome to the show what is up hello yeah justice for the last caller um you know anyway but i'll get into my question uh kind of on the same vein i really appreciate the idea of political redemption. Well, honestly, sometimes it seems really naive just to say, okay, we'll forgive you. Okay. Yeah. And they get stabbed in the back.
Starting point is 00:42:31 I mean, I think destiny is maybe, I don't know. We haven't crossed that road yet, but could the panel articulate the difference between allowing redemption and allowing off ramp from all tension Versus just being naive and pluralistic If that's the right word Off-ramp is when we control where the ramp leads to And Kyle Gass apologizing He's apologizing because we control Where that ramp leads to
Starting point is 00:42:55 Which is why we say, right this way sir The direction we're telling you you have to go If There's no other alternative It's like an apology that doesn't go in our direction. If he said, I'm sorry, I said these things, but I really meant it. And that's how I feel. And that's too bad. I'd say not accepted, not accepted. He gets on his knees and he says, please forgive me. My life is being destroyed. I can't live this way. I say, then, then rise my
Starting point is 00:43:19 son and you can live under our rules and you understand what you're up against now. So as long as they're going in the direction we want society to go, it's fine. I think redemption and forgiveness are part of the same ring, I guess. I think that there's, you know, you don't just say like, oh, I forgive you for for crashing my car and then give someone keys again. Like that person has to show that they understand what they did was wrong. They have to demonstrate that they are legitimately sorry that to come to you for forgiveness. And I think there, you know, people feel differently about this. And, you know, does saying you forgive someone wipe the slate clean or do you always kind of keep in mind what's going on? But I think, you know, with political redemption,
Starting point is 00:44:04 it's interesting because ultimately you have to think strategically about what you want moving forward. Right. So if you you know, there are really I mean, look at Bob, Bob Menendez today. He got found guilty of his bribery case. He had been he had been facing charges like that in the past and just never been convicted for it. If I were in his district, I would feel like, no, I will not forgive you. He is, in fact, still running as an independent, and he has not, as far as I can see, made any plans to resign. He's not someone that I would forgive. I don't think there's political redemption for this person right now. But
Starting point is 00:44:37 if you were like, again, the contrast here is obvious, but like J.D. Vance, who was like, yeah, I was an Ever Trumper and Trump won me over. That's a very different story. If you can say, yeah, the criticisms I had were stupid and now I actually feel differently and have evolved from that point. It is different. And I think you can probably draw parallels in your own life, right? There are people in your life who you believe and want better for. And if they ask for your forgiveness, you would give it knowing that maybe you have to be more cautious and build that trust back up that has been broken but but you would try again i don't know if that's helpful i feel like you never know when you get screwed with give it with the redemption thing you never know when people are just being cynical
Starting point is 00:45:17 and political and like savvy political operators just going with whatever way the wind blows and um i'm not sure it's a very difficult question to be able to you know be genuine and offer somebody a way back in when they're just trying to fuck you down the line you could you could sleep at night pretty good though if you if you're willing to accept that you'll give people unlimited chances and they'll continue to screw you over like i've i don't know if anybody you know if anybody has dealt with people who've been dealing with addiction, but if you have, then you know exactly what I'm talking about. And there's been plenty of times where somebody's burned me the seventh time, and I'm just like, all right, well, at least I know I did everything I could,
Starting point is 00:45:58 or at least I know. And I think that that's an okay position to be too. Having 100 knives in your back sucks balls but also you know you can rest easy knowing that you know you gave them a chance and so what if it burned you like you what have you really lost you know yeah does that help at all yeah i think it does i think it makes more sense how tim said it because the naivety is when we for accept people and there's no benefit to it. But then now when the off ramp seems to be we're consolidating power in the narrative, that makes a lot more sense, because a lot of times I guess I'm just used to the Republicans
Starting point is 00:46:33 being feckless and being like, oh, you're forgiven and then being absolutely castrated. But OK, yeah, that's cool. Cool. Right on. Is anything else you wanted to add? I just want to shout out Seamus. I feel like I haven't seen him on the show in a while. I don't know where Spoon Man went, but I love the little Irish man. Thanks for having me on. You guys are great. Thanks for calling in, buddy.
Starting point is 00:46:53 He's under a bridge. All right, everybody. Pot of gold. Thanks all for hanging out for day two at the RNC. We're really excited for the rest of this week. When's Trump? Thursday? Thursday.
Starting point is 00:47:02 Yep, Thursday. What time Thursday? He's probably speaking at like 9 or 10. He's probably end of the convention. Oh, okay. So that'll be like the end of our week. When's Trump? Thursday? Thursday. Yep. Thursday. What time Thursday? He's probably speaking at like 9 or 10. He's probably end of the convention. Yeah. Oh, okay. So that'll be like the end of our show. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:47:10 Maybe we'll play some of it live. We'll see how that goes down. Jeremy, Alex, thanks for hanging out. It's been fun. Always a pleasure. Thank you. Yeah, thanks for having me. And then, of course, for those that are interested, Friday morning, Jeremy and I will be back
Starting point is 00:47:20 talking all the cultural stuff, all the magic stuff. It's going to be a blast. So check that out. And we're back tomorrow, of course. I've got my morning show and then TimCast IRL again, and then we'll see you all then.

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