Timcast IRL - John Joseph Uncensored: FEMA Abandons Victims of Hurricanes in North Carolina

Episode Date: October 20, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to our special weekend show, Sunday Uncensored. Every week we produce four uncensored episodes of the TimCast IRL podcast exclusively at TimCast.com and we're going to bring you the most important for our weekend show. If you want to check out more segments just like this, become a member at TimCast.com. Now enjoy the show. is okay but uh yes phil we are back with brimcast your favorite phil secretly hates me i don't even think it's that secret no uh okay well welcome to our after our show uh tim had to step out so you guys are stuck with me i know some of you hate it some of you love it we'll all get through it uh i want to talk about this story that i saw today uh it was a report coming out of a statement
Starting point is 00:01:03 that was made on sunday fema temporarily pauses aid in parts of North Carolina of reported threats. So this is from thehill.com. I'll read you a little bit. The Federal Emergency Management Agency, FEMA, reportedly paused aid in parts of North Carolina this weekend after alleged threats targeted the agency's personnel aiding recovery efforts following Hurricane Helene. Ashe County Sheriff Phil Howell said in a statement on Sunday that FEMA personnel in North Carolina's, quote, mountainous region were targeted by threats prompting FEMA to take precautionary steps and temporary pause aid operations at other FEMA sites.
Starting point is 00:01:39 Neither Ashe County nor the surrounding counties were targeted by the threats, said Howell. Out of an abundance of caution, they have paused their process as they are assessing the threats, Hal said in a Facebook post on Sunday morning. I think this is a really important thing to talk about because North Carolina was absolutely pummeled. It is a difficult area to recover in because of the mountainous territory. And FEMA immediately went on the defensive when people said, hey, I live here and it seems like we're not getting any aid. I don't see any FEMA workers. I remember listening to an interview on NBC with a FEMA spokesperson and she said, well, just because they played her
Starting point is 00:02:16 in a clip of a woman on the ground, you can see how devastated the area around her is. And she said, they keep saying they're here. We don't see we don't feel any we're not receiving any aid and the fema spokesperson in response to the embassy uh interviewer who said well what would you say to this woman she she said well just because we're not wearing fema t-shirts doesn't mean we're not there but now they are literally not there yeah i don't know what you make of this i saw clips of people on the ground. My friend lost his entire business in Asheville. And I saw clips of people on the ground and they're like, the government's not here. It's the locals that are helping each other clear the roads and do all this stuff to be able to, you know, they're there with the ATVs and the chainsaws. And, you know, the government is ghost.
Starting point is 00:03:12 It's just bothers me that FEMA went out of their way to put up a tab on the website about hurricane misinformation. And then also we're like, we have some concerns, you know, know threatening aid workers that kind of stuff it's not that it isn't serious but you can't then also be like have sympathy for us send us more money i understood uh when people were saying well you know you have to be careful about how the payments are going or that money that went to migrants is only part of our budget and actually this than the other but now to to pause threats which means that there are people left in really serious and precarious situations i mean they are still recovering bodies in north carolina well i gotta tell you something a friend of mine am i allowed to curse now yeah oh so there's a friend
Starting point is 00:03:54 of mine and he's in that area and he's like dude i've never fucking seen anything like this in my life they're cutting bodies out of the trees. Yeah. Like, just incredible. There was a story out of North Carolina that a family of 11 were recovered in their home. Yeah, I've been saying, like, when people were, like, talking about, oh, you know, there's, like, 200 people that are confirmed dead and stuff. And I'm like. It's thousands. I was like, this is. It's fucking thousands.
Starting point is 00:04:20 It's going to be. Of people that are unaccounted for. And they're not even able to get into some of the areas yet. And it's just, I even heard, I don't know if it's true or not, with everything that's out there now, that people were robbing the supply trucks that were coming in there, fucking by gunpoint.
Starting point is 00:04:50 And they were not U.S. citizens doing that, you know? It's an area in chaos. I haven't seen any of those reports. And the looting. They were looting fucking houses. There's these squads of these fucking uh like like these robbery crews that are going to the houses and you know to do that to people that have lost everything and loved ones died and just go in there and fucking loot their homes uh you know i live in florida and desantis just said before um
Starting point is 00:05:27 helene was a lot worse in my area than uh milton just came through it went south but he said listen uh if you think you're going to take advantage of people and come in and loot he said florida's a big second amendment uh state and you don't know what's on the other side of that door and i made a post and said yo if you fucking loot man we shoot that that's it because like these robbery crews and like my friend, like they're all over California and they're from Venezuela and they're from other countries and they're, they're, they're like these expert, like they know how to cut the alarm systems and everything, but in a place where there's no power and just lawlessness,
Starting point is 00:06:23 like how do you stop those guys, you know? No, and it's where people, I mean, especially if these reports of looting supply trucks are accurate, then these are supplies people need. They were already struggling to get them from the government, which already is barring private citizens who are qualified from helping. They already have a preferred vendors list. To me, this is sort of
Starting point is 00:06:45 that abandonment by the federal government that we all know is possible, but they always pretend like, oh, we'd never do that. Of course, we're good at doing our job. Of course, these reports that we're not effectively distributing AIDS are completely wrong. I just think it's kind of crazy. And, you know, we've gotten this question a couple of times on the after show from callers. A lot of the counties, especially in North Carolina, that were affected are red. They tend to vote for Trump. They tend to vote for Republicans. And now we're three weeks out from the election. And apparently FEMA is taking a break to to assess threats. And I don't want to underplay like threats are serious. On the other hand, there is a lot of pressure on these areas to recover in time for the election, let alone help citizens who might still be trapped in dangerous situations, who
Starting point is 00:07:31 might still be without power, who might still be without clean water. It just it's it's not a good moment for the Biden-Harris administration. Well, you know, the frustration, too, of like nobody coming to help them. I understand i would be like yo motherfucker like they must feel so voiceless because that's what i'm saying cut off from the internet they can't even like try to contact their neighbors through facebook and then they're also abandoned by this federal agency which has stated a monopoly on aid did you see what they did to elon musk when he was trying to get the starlink in there he's like no you have to file paperwork and we don't like we don't even know where they are we're just like trying to get in there he's like nope you can't they they were
Starting point is 00:08:15 stopping him from like being getting the communication and it's it's not it's a lot of old people there who need medication and to have their prescriptions filled. I think the death toll is going to be well into the thousands when this whole thing is said and done. And you know what? They're never going to let you know what the real numbers are in the mainstream because they they they block any criticism of their administration. Like whatever, whatever, whatever the fuck they do. It's like, Nope, Nope. Or they just claim, you know, misinformation, disinformation. It's terrible that that's happening. It's that's, that's a horrifying situation, but it's also, it speaks to what the,
Starting point is 00:09:00 what the administration and the media does now, anything that is not complementary to the government is is suppressed it's considered you know they call it misinformation and the media used to be what keeps the government in check it keeps the government in check it keeps the government honest and that has entirely been thrown out the window and it's been thrown out the window all on the account of access people think that it's about money and window and it's been thrown out the window all on the account of access people think that it's about money and stuff and it's not about money it's about am i going to be able to get to the president to talk to him because the whole point of money is power right
Starting point is 00:09:37 the whole point of having access having money or having a lot of money is to have access to power if you can circumvent the money and just say, well, I can get the president or want someone on the president's staff to make a phone call for me, then that access is actually more valuable than the money. And it's something that's not traceable. You can't like when you, you don't, you don't need to have a book, you know, gold bars in your jacket like Mendez. If you can call someone in the president's administration and say hey i have this problem can you make it go away or can you help me get this job or can you help me do this and then it's not traceable it's just a friend called for someone and it's not you know it's
Starting point is 00:10:14 not something that you can actually put a monetary value on so it's it's chilling to think that no longer do we have any no more free press exactly Exactly. We have no means to keep the government in check. I mean, remember in the 80s, man, like, I think it was Mike Wallace. I saw an old thing on CBS and he was calling out some fucking, like, vaccine program or something that they did and you'll never see that now nope i mean fox doesn't even you never see fox bring up anything about what went down with the vaccines and the vaccine injuries i'm like how are you not talking about this i think so much of it got memory hold which is disappointing i mean the one that I think of the most is is the the government workers, but also the military members who either had to take the vax, even though they didn't want to because their religious exemptions weren't approved or they had to leave this career. They were building themselves, which puts their family in economic jeopardy because they didn't want the other thing they're not talking about right now is all the vaccine injuries that are happened have happened in the military.
Starting point is 00:11:27 It's ended the careers of a lot of pilots and all kinds of, you know, and, you know, some of these Democrats actually voted that if you because I have, you know, friends who served in the Special Forces community and they spent a lot of money on their training. They were pushing a bill to make them pay it back if they left the military. It's totally crazy. Like, yo. Yeah, it's crazy. I mean, it's one of these things where the government is somehow always the victim, even though it is also causing a lot of the problems. I mean, they're I don't think they're responsible for the hurricane, but I do think that they are responsible for people's feeling as though this aid organization
Starting point is 00:12:14 is not showing up for them. When you do more for people that are coming into the country, you know, and that's the big pushback that's happening now is in the cities is hey man the black and brown people are like and rightly so i like i said i feed the homeless in new york city i'm involved with out outreach programs and they're all saying like yo why are we getting nothing and these people you know in chicago they closed i forget what it was like how many schools they closed they said there's no money and then they turn those same schools into uh migrant hotels like rooms they built rooms in there and and they just expect the americans not to pay attention it's crazy i want to pull in some callers before uh it gets too late
Starting point is 00:13:06 uh i hope you're up for this hear from our crowd um i'm gonna pull in will if that's possible by me i'm gonna pull in while i mean serge will you please pull in will are you can you hear me yeah i will hey wow um big fan uh long time listener first time caller i'll just get into it i feel like there's gonna be a 10-7 style terrorist attack in america i fear it will be directed at trump i feel this way because of the sean ryan show episodes 81 and 116 with Sarah Adams. I saw that. Yeah. A former CIA targeter who details out the entire pipeline of fill in the
Starting point is 00:13:54 blank terrorist country to training to our border using Tik TOK and telegram. What do you guys think of this? I have more information if you'd like. And do you think I'm crazy? What episode was it? Episode 81, part one and two. Episode 116.
Starting point is 00:14:20 I haven't heard them. So I don't have a take on the particular exchange. So I don't think that I have an informed position on them. As for if there is a possible terrorist attack, I think that goes without saying, considering how many people have come into the country through the southern border that have no documentation, just got in and, you know, came in, whether it be with coyotes and just walked across the border or actually went to a place and claimed asylum or whatever. I think that it's actually likely that there will be terrorist attacks.
Starting point is 00:15:03 The level and intensity, I don't know. The United States is a whole lot bigger than Israel. You know, Israel is like the size of New Jersey. I don't know that it would be something as dramatic as the 10-7 attacks in Israel. But at the same time, you know, I never thought that 9-11 was going to happen. And then one day I woke up and 9-11 was happening, you know, so. I mean, the FBI just put out statements during, you know, the days leading up to October 7th, the one year anniversary of the attack abroad and said, you know, we are warning people that
Starting point is 00:15:40 there is potential for a terrorist attack. There's been chatter. Right. Like, I don't think that you're crazy for a terrorist attack has been shattered right like i don't think that you're crazy for this fear this seems to be just common common sense i i haven't listened to those episodes so i can't comment on that exchange either i actually heard him and uh he was saying that he was talking to some of his Afghan people that he worked with, and they were saying, yeah, they sent, you know, they're not loyal to Islam, is what he was saying, and they're loyal to the tribes in Afghanistan.
Starting point is 00:16:22 And if you went in and killed people in you know in the tribes and all the stuff that we did in the middle east and then you're just going to open up the border and i'll say it point blank if somebody came in and killed my fucking family sorry i'm going to fucking get revenge that's you know and what we did in the Middle East was beyond fucked up and if you saw the interview
Starting point is 00:16:55 with General Wesley Clark after 9-11 I was in New York City on 9-11 I saw the buildings fucking come down. A lot of suspicious shit. Seven World Trade, all of that. But Wesley Clark went into the Pentagon,
Starting point is 00:17:13 and he passed by some high-ranking Pentagon official. He goes, hey, did you hear the news? We're going in Iraq. We're going to fucking attack Iraq. He he goes what are we going in iraq for they didn't have anything to do with 9-11 and he said well we don't know what else to do and then he said not only that there's a list of seven other countries i believe it was and they just systematically took down every one of those countries and a lot of it had to do with they were signing on to the dinar and they were going to do away with the u.s dollars the petrol dollar if you follow the history of the federal reserve and jekyll island and read the book the
Starting point is 00:18:01 creature jekyll island and you know the history of everything, how the money works. It's all about the money. And this guy was saying, like, you know, what we did in the Middle East and the however million people that we killed in Iraq. And a lot of these special forces guys now are like, yo, they lied to us, man. It was all bullshit. They sold us a fucking lie. And they got everybody to America, USA, USA, USA.
Starting point is 00:18:39 And it was the military-industrial complex. And I just saw a whole thing about, I forget what the book was called, that they needed a new Pearl Harbor in order to sell this whole agenda of a new America. You know what that book was called? I think one of the issues generally is that fear of something coming and our generally conscious public agreement that we are not strong as a nation right now, that our national what international entanglement it is, we are not in the strongest place. But I want to ask our caller if there's anything he wants to add or shout out. No, just please don't. You don't have to believe me. Just episode 81, part one and two, about an hour into each one of those, they talk about this. And then pretty much the entire episode 116 it should be
Starting point is 00:19:46 a culture war episode it would it would be ridiculous it is ridiculous um and thank you so much uh phil hannah claire two favorite co-hosts and john sorry to hear about your your brother thanks man that's it have a good night guys thanks man thanks will uh Let's pull in David Hogg something. I can't read it. Serge, what is it? David Hogg's mystery next word. David Hogg's Trump Tower taco salad. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 00:20:16 Amazing. I feel like Trump should go post another picture of his taco salad. He needs to bring us back. The next one's going to be even better when I roll it. Okay right uh hi head of claire john phil surge thanks for having me back on cheers um you guys are tiptoeing around my question towards the middle of the show uh you didn't quite get to it and it's probably best served for uh behind the paywall um everything feels like it's leaning heavily in favor of trump right now public Public sentiment, betting odds, polls, Harris's bombing media tours and fumbled hurricane response, Biden trolling her and YouTube dialing down the shadow banning of channels like this
Starting point is 00:20:54 and similar. It all feels too good. I feel like the folks calling the shots behind the curtain at the Democratic machine aren't as dumb as some of their figureheads can be off prompter. Is it possible all these positive things are actually a trap being laid to create a sense of overwhelming we won sentiment to provoke right wing violence when the shadow campaign triggers during election week, quote unquote, and Harris ultimately wins. My gut says no. And that's because the things that Kamala is doing,
Starting point is 00:21:31 like there's rumors that, I don't know how true this is, but there's rumors that Kamala might do Rogan. I saw that at Reuters today. Yeah, and I don't know how true it is, but it might happen. And there's, you know, she's going to Fox. If she were doing well, she would not be doing any of this. Remember when she first, you know, became the nominee or whatever you want to call it, when she first replaced Biden, she was doing nothing. She was doing nothing at all because she had a
Starting point is 00:21:57 substantial lead and the excitement that the Democrats had about her was, was enough so that they could say, we can just sit here, we don't need to do anything. As that wore off and as Trump and Vance went out and did more and more appearances and Kamala's lead shrank and shrank, then she starts saying, oh, no, I got to do stuff. First, she starts going to places that were friendly, like the Call Her Daddy podcast and stuff. And now she's going to places that are you know well neil neil cavuto today had her press campaign strategist or whatever on there and neil was like why did you wait so long and he just kept they just neil kept asking her question asking him questions about kamala and what she's doing and all he kept
Starting point is 00:22:46 press her person kept saying was bringing up shit about trump yeah i'm like yo enough about that what the fuck are you gonna do if you're the president like enough with the with the trump derangement syndrome like what the fuck do you does your you know hope presidential hopeful plan to do for this country and they don't talk about anything about that and you know neil said to her too like are you coming on because you feel like she's losing the narrative, like, overall? And, you know, he's like, oh, no, we know we want to be in all markets. He's on her team. He's going to spin however he wants.
Starting point is 00:23:34 I think the reality is that, you know, this used to be sort of a common pattern that when in their own primaries, both parties would take more strong positions. They would lean more towards whatever wing they were on. And then when it came towards a general election, they, you know, people kind of soften their positions to become more moderate. They're trying to secure some of those independent and undecided voters. And Kamala Harris, I don't think she got elected to to her position. She was installed as the Democratic.
Starting point is 00:24:05 When was the primary runoff? Can you all behind closed doors after Joe Biden said she was the elitist that fucking put her in. Right. But then she maintained a progressive position. She didn't tack towards the center fast enough. And I don't think she ever wanted to. I think every advisor that's around her is trying to say our positions are good and America wants them and Donald Trump is too extreme. But actually, the anti-Trump campaign is really the only thing they can run right now. I mean, like I said, all it TDS. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:37 But like I said in the main show, I mean, it is not a surprise that even though initially she was like, oh, I'll think about having a Republican on my candidate when Donald Trump, in contrast, flat out promised to have a libertarian. Yep. You know, then days later, she's like, actually, I'll have a bipartisan advisory board. Oh, actually, I think I'll go on Fox News. I mean, you know, she is shifting as fast as she can, but it's not fast enough. Obama tried to do that, too, but he shut down everybody that like, you know, was opposed to anything that he was doing. So that doesn't mean jack shit.
Starting point is 00:25:11 When you have an agenda. Well, and who's it going to be? Dick Cheney? That's going to be her like Republican that advises her? It's just unbelievable to me that they're backing all these warmongers. And you look at Tulsi Gabbard, who's in Trump's cabinet, and she's like, you know, she's an advisor to the campaign. She's calling out the military industrial complex.
Starting point is 00:25:34 Like, these are not rich, you know, people that fucking have all this stock and arms and all this shit that don't care who goes to war and who dies. This is somebody that fought for the country and knows what the toll of war causes on families and everything else. And it's like she's speaking out against what the fuck they're doing. Like she's like they asked her like who really really think runs this country. And she's like, it's a fucking team of people but it ain't the person that's in the office and i think like that's they're so adamant against you know trump it's just that's really all they have i mean to your point kamala could give more
Starting point is 00:26:19 specifics on what she's promising she's choosing not to because they either don't want to be held accountable if they won or they literally cannot come to an agreement on what they's promising she's choosing not to because they either don't want to be held accountable if they won or they literally cannot come to an agreement on what they think they should do for the country, which means they should not be governing. To our taco salad fan, is there anything you want to shout out or add to this conversation? I do love taco salads,
Starting point is 00:26:39 but I haven't had one from Trump Tower. That's all I got really. Thanks for the conversation. Thanks for having me back on. Have a good night. all I got, really. Thanks for the conversation. Thanks for having me back on. Have a good night. Cheers, man. Thanks. Thanks for calling in.
Starting point is 00:26:51 Let's pull in Sammy from Florida, of Florida. Interesting. Hello, Sammy. Hey, guys. Hi, Sammy. It's Sammy again. Hi. I'm back.
Starting point is 00:27:01 I am back. My question actually is for John. I'm a hardcore kid, believe it or not. From Florida? I am, yes. No, but I'm saying like your whole hardcore roots are in Florida? Yes, born and raised in Florida. But, you know, we were very influenced by New York hardcore down here.
Starting point is 00:27:19 But my question is, there was just a festival in Orlando called Shell Shock Festival. I think it's still going on for the veterans. Madball and everybody. Yep. They had a bunch of bands pull out because they had a Kyle Rittenhouse photo in a story on their social media. And the rumor was that he was also going to be there. And actually, my ex-husband's band was one of the ones that pulled out. And I called him and I was like,
Starting point is 00:27:46 this is pathetic. What band? I can't believe what they're called, Southpaw. They actually just got off tour with Hoods. Oh, I know Southpaw. Yeah, they just got off tour with Hoods, actually. But anyway, I told him how disappointed I was in the hardcore
Starting point is 00:28:01 scene and how, you know, they're becoming a bunch of bootlickers. I'm sure he loved his call from his ex-wife. He actually lives five houses down. We have a very good relationship. But how do you feel about how how the hardcore scene is becoming and how they're such leftist sympathizers and how do we educate those within the hardcore community you know like i said before i never was into politics i'm still not but i'm gonna call out the bullshit if trump did bullshit i called it out during his presidency if obama if clinton if bush like hardcore was i mean mean, like, the Rock Against Racism concerts and, like, all the shit and the stances. Anti-war, anti-corporation, anti-censorship, right? They fucking backed off from all of that stuff. stuff and i personally you know they they they they fucking you know i mean i had them calling
Starting point is 00:29:09 up my label saying don't put out this motherfucker's record like i'm a trump supporter i'm i never voted for anybody in my fucking life i'm like or he's a racist or he's a misogynist he's a racist, or he's a misogynist, he's trans. They threw every fucking thing. They even called up Cortex and said all this shit about me to not distribute my record. It was number one for like three weeks. It came out, and it's the biggest complaining, bitching, fucking crybabies of the concert that we put together in Tompkins Square Park was the fucking hardcore punk scene around the fucking world.
Starting point is 00:29:52 They talked the most shit. They tried to cancel. If somebody posted a photo that they were at the show, they fucking piled on them. And I reached out to friends. I won't say their names some of them were black some of them were spanish and i'm like yo like i always took your back and even white and like and they're like yo we tried to say like we know you you ain't a racist and like they fucking piled on me and like all this bullshit and i'm like it's not the fucking
Starting point is 00:30:28 hardcore scene it's the fans that piled on them or is it like media no it's the fans it's hardcore people it's not the hardcore scene and i even said a bunch of times i'm like it's fucking i started calling it the softcore scene because I'm like, so true. I'm like, listen, like how the fuck are you believing what this government is telling you during? And the whole shit started against me because innocently enough, somebody asked me in 2020,
Starting point is 00:30:58 cause I was working on the record. Are you, are you excited for the vaccine? I was like, I ain't taking that fucking thing. I mean, I have a strong immune system. I beat COVID in four days I was back to training for an Ironman within like 10 days and no and then the fucking shit storm started against me and it was just
Starting point is 00:31:19 like fuck you you fucking talk all this shit about unity you're a selfish fucking prick like all of this shit and it was coming from people and i don't i think if you're in a little fucking chat room talking shit and i ran into one of the motherfuckers on the street in new york and i fucking was coming out of the gym because i was there last spring I put my fucking bag down and stood in front of him I was like this is how we do shit in the old days and I was up in his face I say you see this this is before the internet motherfucker what do you got to say oh man I was like nah fuck that I was like yo you tried they were calling up they were contacting my clients from my coaching business and talking I mean they stopped my record they they they told distributors not to carry my
Starting point is 00:32:11 books like when you try to destroy someone for fucking feeding their family and I help the homeless in New York with the money that comes in from these books and what I do. And they didn't give a fuck about any of that. So I'm like, none of them's ever had a conversation with me. They fucking speculate on all kinds of shit. And I'm like, it's not the scene that I was a pioneer of. I was going to punk rock shows in 77 before anybody that's on the fucking scene now.
Starting point is 00:32:49 And then the birth of Hardcore, I was in D.C. We're hanging out with Henry Rollins, coming up to New York, hanging out with Ian McKay. Why didn't the fans follow, right? What was it about the generational shift that made them so that they aren't following the tenets of this movement that like you were part because of fear
Starting point is 00:33:11 their fear the fear got to them the fear mongering the psyop and that's exactly what it was i posted a in may of of 2020 of me out in the middle of on a bike trail on my triathlon bike riding. And they're like, fuck you. You should be home. You're spreading. I'm like, who the fuck am I spreading Corona to? The fucking seagulls and the squirrels. Fucking ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:33:42 You could have COVID and not know it. I'm like, motherfucker, I just rode 80 miles and ran 10 miles off the bike i think if i was sick i wouldn't be able to fucking do that i just think like they lost the messaging of what the lyrics actually stood for when the bad brains you know fvk the bourgeoisie said better watch out for me all throughout the so-called nation we don't want your filthy money we don't need you in this in bloodshed we just want to end your world i just go back and read the fucking lyrics read the lyrics of the chromags age of quarrel what we fucking stood for all the shit signs of the times the lyrics that I wrote like I stand by those fucking lyrics I did not change the scene fucking
Starting point is 00:34:28 changed I am still the same motherfucker that I was when I fucking was 18 years old in 1980 and even before that as punk rock I grew up in the institutionalized homes and all kinds of shit so when when i got into punk rock i was into like the whole sex pistols fuck you and that whole fucking mentality that was taking place fuck the government fuck and this is what i say we used to have to fight the fucking rednecks because of the way we looked and the gigs i remember being in wisconsin avenue in dc in 1980 and getting in a fight because the marines jumped some of the young kids and the rednecks and and now it's like we're once again in that position except we're fighting with people who claim to be hardcore punks.
Starting point is 00:35:27 It's the same fucking thing. And I'm like, bro, go back and read the fucking lyrics. And more importantly, live the shit. If you don't live it, you got all the moves on.
Starting point is 00:35:38 I could tell you so many bands that kicked motherfuckers out of the bands because they didn't take the vaccine. And I'm not going to put them on blast. But the dudes in the bands that got kicked out were all writing me saying, yo, man, these motherfuckers kicked me out of the band. And now they're all back on stage with their moves and acting like they're fucking crazy on stage. It's all it's all cosplay. It's a fucking show. Fuck your tattoos.
Starting point is 00:36:09 Fuck your fucking lyrics and the way you look. If you don't live it, shut the fuck up. Sammy, how's that for an answer? I love it. It's funny to me because I actually have always been political and I'm on the boards for GOP and stuff now. Nice. Underneath my blazer, I have, you know, descendants and black flag tattoos.
Starting point is 00:36:32 So it's great. I listen to that music when I'm going to that. I was at 171 when Henry Rollins auditioned for black flag. I was at the Circle Jerks at fucking Irving Plaza in 1980 and John Belushi knocked me on my fucking ass. I was on Saturday Night Live in 81,
Starting point is 00:36:53 the Fear Halloween episode. My roots speak for themselves and I am the same fucking person. And they did it. Very few in the hardcore scene where i was the most vocal one even in punk rock yeah i don't know anybody that called out the bullshit more than me the hardcore motherfuckers kept reporting my page of 150 000 they got it taken down
Starting point is 00:37:20 and like fuck you i don't care about social media if i gotta be out at a fucking concert somewhere speaking what the fuck i got to speak but you know just the whole thing of like he's going he's not they put this whole narrative that you're right wing if you don't take the vaccine i mean it's just words used to kind of control and oppress you that's exactly what it is unfortunately people are susceptible to that uh but i think it's just words used to kind of control and oppress you. That's exactly what it is. Unfortunately, people are susceptible to that. But I think it's cool to hear your explanation of how you see the movement going. Sammy, is there anything you want to shout out before we go to the next caller? No, that's it.
Starting point is 00:37:55 I appreciate it. I appreciate you standing firm to your roots. You and Phil both. Hopefully, like you said, the new movement will come and I will be there for sure. I do want to say that as a victim to the fake news media, if anybody wants to look at my Twitter, we had our first Democratic spy at a Roger Stone event, Stormy Daniels political advisor. And I'm trying to make this MF-er go viral. So find Sammy Politics on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:38:22 It's pinned to the top of my profile. And thank you guys. Appreciate you seeing the after show. Shout out to the Discord. Bye, guys. Thanks, Sammy. Okay, we're going to pull in J dot dot dot, or at least that's all I can read of your name. Jay Carmichael.
Starting point is 00:38:38 Hey, how's it going? Hi, welcome to the show. Well, it seems like we're probably somewhere around 50 50 for tim cast versus brink cast for when i call in but that's fun so uh excited to be here uh phil i met you last year in miami with tim and everybody and um yeah my my question is sort of along the lines of one a couple lines back, but is a little kind of blackmailed or skeptical in a little bit of a different way. I kind of agree that things are going thought that covid was something of a coup. Like, I think that there's plenty of evidence that that was a biological weapon based on the origins of gain of function research. Absolutely. And so so with with that having been said, I think that these people have proved for the last several years that they will stop at absolutely nothing.
Starting point is 00:39:49 Like, I think that they unleashed a virus on the entire world personally. And so, like, if he wins, there's a part of me that wonders. Are they letting him win for some reason like there was this whole thing with with the the longshoremen and that strike was put off to what two days before the inauguration like i'm just wondering like is there something even more nefarious at play if they allow him to win because i i just don't trust the deep state at this point i I personally don't. Or will they even let him take office? Yeah, there's,
Starting point is 00:40:26 there's a possibility, like there's always the possibility of some kind of shenanigans of, or surrounding the election. It's not something that I, I am expecting when it comes to like, if he, if he actually does win, I don't expect some kind of,
Starting point is 00:40:43 you know, attempt to prevent him from getting into office. But, you know, I mean, you never can be sure. It's not the longshoremen delaying the strike that I would be concerned about in this thing, other than the fact that, you know, theoretically, it's a headache that someone has to deal with right away. It's they delayed his sentencing for the New York case. And I feel like that's going to be the bigger obstacle here. Generally, you know, I I think the the term deep state is sometimes too broadly applied to everything we're anxious about. I think that occasionally we just say,
Starting point is 00:41:20 oh, well, the deep state will never let that happen. And it becomes a way to sort of avoid participating or at least trying to see the system through. You know, I don't think that Trump has tons of support from entrenched bureaucrats in Washington. On the other hand, the movement that he has built and sort of the following that he has generated has changed a lot. I mean, you know, the Republican Party is proof of this. I don't think it's the same party that it was when he first came down the escalator in 2016. And so it's hard to say. And I could understand fear or maybe being a little bit cynical, but we kind of just have to hold steady. But the thing that I would first be, you know, if you're going to be anxious about something,
Starting point is 00:42:03 I'd be anxious about sentencing because that is after the election at this point. I don't know if you have opinions on this. Is there anything you want to follow up with or shout out? Yeah, actually, I'll just quickly follow up sort of unrelated, but sort of a shout out at the same time. You guys were talking about the music industry and not to just be here with a shameless self-promotion thing. But I've been out here busting my ass singing songs. And when I wasn't doing that, I was driving ambulances and fighting fires. And to be honest, one of the things that has held me back, isn't like big people telling me no,
Starting point is 00:42:52 because I have a song that sings about politics that they don't like, but it's, it's little people. It's, it's talent buyers at small venues half the time. Like, you know, people always imagine that the gatekeepers are always like these higher ups, but it happens for the little guys too. I'm going to be spending the next three, three and a half weeks doing shows from Nashville to West Virginia to DC.
Starting point is 00:43:16 And I would love to link up with any of the TimCast crew or audience or anybody along the way. So Jay Carmichael music on instagram awesome man good luck with that yeah you guys have probably thank you guys you guys have probably both been through that process of uh grinding away oh yeah absolutely it's tough i i think musicians especially musicians who are pursuing touring are a tough breed I mean, even in the film and TV stuff, I have a lot of friends that had to fucking just keep quiet because if they said anything, the way they came at everybody,
Starting point is 00:43:55 the whole music business, it's all controlled by BlackRock, first of all. So we know what's up with that. They control the media. They control the music. They control the media. They control the music. They control the TV. They control just everything. So it's like I know so many people that are actors that couldn't say shit because, like, look what they did to, what is it, Drea DeMatteo?
Starting point is 00:44:24 Because she said, I don't want to. Yeah. Yeah. And I know her. She used to go to the Moors and everything, all the early shows back in the day. She's a fucking rocker, man. She's so fucking cool.
Starting point is 00:44:36 I think it is a tough time to be a creative and also feel like you want to speak out. All she said was like, hey, I'm not, I don't feel this thing is safe for me or my children. And the next day she was like, hey, I'm not, I don't feel this thing is safe for me or my children. And the next day she was like, the next day I got fired from my manager. My agent fired, my agent quit and I was kicked off of like whatever the hell she was doing. So, you know, they just show you like, hey, if you say anything. You step out of line, you're done.
Starting point is 00:45:05 It's top to bottom. It's the little small clubs too. Try to get a fucking gig and be like, you know, I was supposed to speak at some vegan fucking thing. And like these people were like, is that transphobe? And just all the same names, regardless of what you've said or done in your past it's all they they just call you the same names they call you the same like one of my best friends is trans you know mina caputo i mean i dude i'm such a huge fan for me and and was like yo what the fuck are you guys talking about that's fucking bullshit like but it's not enough and
Starting point is 00:45:44 that's the thing all of this language all of the labels i think are really used to try and create fear and create compliance and that's a rough world to be in i hate to end brimcast on such a cynical note but it's the reality and we have to talk about it but you know what this is what i say speak your fucking truth and fuck everybody else and that's my position i hope you put that on a t-shirt. Yeah. Fuck everybody. Be yourself.
Starting point is 00:46:11 Speak up for what the fuck you want to speak up for because that's what they want. They want you to fucking shrivel up, turtle up, go into your shell and be like, oh man, I just want to be left alone. That's not punk rock. I'm like, fuck you. Two middle fingers in your fucking face.
Starting point is 00:46:24 Like Fletcher. fletcher did that shit to somebody in rage against the machine because uh oh yes and it's not all of the band i just want to say that yeah but their management came out of this backstage and was like everybody needs to go in their room rage is coming out and fletcher who's a i love those motherfuckers randy and fletcher from pennywise and fletcher just put the two fucking fingers in zach's face like fuck you that's hilarious i mean that's punk rock is fuck you like they tried to pull fear off stage at saturday night live and fucking leaving Mush the fucking head of security in the face and just kept playing.
Starting point is 00:47:07 Well, it looks like people have their marching orders. These are good reminders. John, thanks for coming on. It's been so fun having you. Thanks for having me. Guys, tune in to all of the channels and the other things tomorrow and we'll see you back tomorrow night
Starting point is 00:47:19 for another IRL. Probably not a Brimcast, but probably Timcast.

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