Timcast IRL - Kimmel ROASTED For CRYING Over Trump Win, Liberal Hosts LOSE IT w/Michael Knowles
Episode Date: November 8, 2024Tim, Phil, Seamus, & Elaad are joined by Michael Knowles to discuss Jimmy Kimmel crying after Trump won the 2024 election, CNN admitting Democrats are not the party of common sense, Democrats giving u...p after Trump victory and abandoning left wing creators, and Trump's lawyer threatening the New York AG over trying to throw Trump in prison. Michael Knowles is a conservative political commentator, author, and podcast host, known for his outspoken views on culture, politics, and social issues, often blending humor with sharp critiques of liberal ideologies. Hosts: Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) Seamus @FreedomToons (YouTube) Elaad @BarelyInformedWithElad (YouTube) Guest: Michael Knowles @MichaelKnowles (YouTube) Producer: Serge @SergeDotCom (everywhere) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Well, Jimmy Kimmel started crying.
And the best part about his opening monologue where he is crying, he like welled up and nearly cried.
He choked up.
I don't know if there were any tears.
But he's like, this is a terrible night for the poor, for immigrants, for women, and for our allies in Ukraine.
It was when he got to Ukraine, he struggled to speak.
Like he was so sad for the people of Ukraine he's never met
and doesn't even know where they are on a map.
But sure.
So now, you know, Stephen Smith is distancing himself, Fox News says.
We'll talk about that.
And just generally, all the late night hosts are having this insane meltdown
where they don't seem to understand what democracy is.
Yeah, when Trump wins the popular vote and the popular mandate, you can't say democracy is dead because it actually won.
And then we got a bunch of news, but I know Donald Trump has chosen his chief of staff,
which is big news. P.A. has been called for McCormick. So that's another flip for the
Republicans. And then we have this article from Wired, the Manosphere one, where they blame Steven Crowder, Ben Shapiro and me for partly
contributing to Donald Trump's major victory. I don't think any of us are considered Manosphere,
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And joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more, we've got Michael Knowles.
What's going on, guys? Good to be with you. Absolutely. And joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more, we've got Michael Knowles. What's going on, guys?
Good to be with you.
Absolutely.
You also got no sleep.
I got no sleep.
I got two hours on election night.
We did the election show, which I was on here with you guys.
I go home.
I realized now I have to write my own show for the morning.
For some reason, I decided to do a show at 6.30 in the morning
or whatever it is, 8.30 in the morning Central Time.
And then things just keep happening.
So we're all just talking all the time.
Luckily, though, I'm just powered by a
constant stream of Mayflower cigars.
Can I offer anybody a cigar?
Would anybody care for one?
I feel like we didn't celebrate enough already,
but we might have to. Can we smoke in here right now?
Absolutely. I'm making an executive
decision. Would you have one?
I can barely talk.
You would have one.
You would have one?
Turning down the cigar from you, Mr. Knows I Could Never.
All right, guys.
You want the dawn or the dusk?
The light or the dark?
Do you have a recommendation?
Give me a lighter one.
Can you go for them?
I want something kind of light right now.
I'm pretty tired.
Give him the biggest one.
Okay, that's great.
Just a big, fat stick.
So this, I'll give you the light one, the dawn.
What are you thinking?
Here, I'll flick it overhand.
All right.
You want to try the dusk?
Can I have a baby one? What's the small one? A little baby dawn are you thinking? Here, I'll flick it over your hand. You want to try the dust?
What's the small one?
It'll be my first cigar.
Really? All right, man.
You always remember your first.
I am reliable. Be careful of that. Do we got a lighter and an ashtray?
I have a lighter. We might need to fly in an ashtray
or we can just burn down the Daily Wire studio.
I would not recommend that.
Antifa probably wants to right now,
considering the election results.
I think so.
We are trying not to disclose our location.
If we accidentally burn the place down,
they'll call it mostly peaceful.
Yeah, that's true.
So we're okay.
But I know that you've got the special Mayflower ones.
I do.
This is a special size that was made just for me
that I never got to try until a year into my company.
This is the Corona Gorda Mayflower cigar.
And it was the perfect thing to smoke on election night.
I heard from the CEO of the company that produces these two blends for me.
And he said he basically has had a cigar in his teeth for every minute other than four hours, say, since election night.
I mean, this is a celebratory time.
Well, all right.
Well, Michael is lighting up some beautiful cigars.
Elad is here.
Hey, everybody.
I am Elad Eliyahu.
I'm a journalist here at TimCast.
You might need to pass that lighter to me after.
I feel like very strong and powerful with this in my hand, Michael Nolson.
That's how it works.
Absolutely.
So I'm happy to be here.
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Happy to be here as well.
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Chet says, Elad, don't inhale the smoke.
Keep it in your mouth.
Absolutely.
I'm waiting for an ashtray and then we'll start talking.
I don't know if we can fly
in an ashtray. Otherwise, I'm going to ash into
those jelly beans right now.
You should. I am
Phil Labonte. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band
All That Remains. I'm an anti-communist and
a counter-revolutionary and let's get this
on. Well, here's the big story. I love
this one. It's a little bit of a development.
Stephen A. Smith distances self from Jimmy Kimmel after Kimmel cries over Trump win.
Wouldn't have been me.
Yeah, I'd be pretty embarrassed, too, if a bunch of my friends were crying on TV.
But we have the clip for you guys.
And I hope this brightens up your day.
Let's be honest.
It was a terrible night last
night. It was a terrible night for women, for children, for the hundreds of thousands of
hardworking immigrants who make this country go for health care, for our climate, for science,
for journalism, for justice, for free speech.
It was a terrible night for poor people,
for the middle class, for seniors who rely on Social Security,
for our allies in Ukraine,
for NATO, for the truth,
and democracy and decency.
And it was a terrible night for everyone who voted against him.
And guess what?
It was a bad night for everyone who voted for him, too. You just don't realize it.
It was not my favorite time. He said it was a terrible night for democracy.
Bro, democracy won. But the best point that I want to make is he only starts crying when he
gets to Ukraine. Seniors rely on Social Security for our allies in Ukraine.
Is that his biggest concern right now?
He doesn't care about the American people at all. The poor women.
No, it's Ukraine.
Notice, by the way, he refers
specifically to identity groups.
Because that's the most important thing
to them. We can't have national sovereignty and
patriotism and solidarity and stand with one another
as Americans. It has to go, well, our
favorite minority groups or oppressed classes are having a bad time.
The most likely situation in Ukraine is that Donald Trump becomes president.
They come to some kind of negotiated peace.
Ukraine does lose some territory because they're not going to give back Crimea.
And probably I think it's the Donbass or the area that they're at that they were after.
But the dying stops.
Exactly. The dying stops. Exactly, yeah.
The dying stops.
So I don't know what the hell this guy's talking about.
The idea that it's a bad thing to stop the killing, the absolute horror of trench warfare.
I don't know about anybody else, but I've looked at some of the trench warfare stuff.
It's absolutely unimaginable. Well, legitimately, the strategy, the grand strategy here
is just to use Ukraine as a meat grinder to kill Russian soldiers.
It's disgusting.
And it's for money because there are investments in Ukraine
by a bunch of different companies.
They're invested in, Mike Benz was talking about this the other day,
I believe on the PBD broadcast,
but I don't know it well enough.
Mike Pence went on the PBD broadcast?
That's impressive.
I think the same thing every time.
It's hard to ever do.
Did you guys see,
there's a story,
and Donald Trump Jr. tweeted this out.
It was hilarious.
Hamas is already calling for an end of the war
the moment Trump got elected,
and Donald Trump Jr.
was like, my father hasn't even got into office yet, and already he's ending wars.
It's Reagan all over again. It's so frustrating.
The same thing happened with the hostages being released as soon as he was elected.
And one of the hilarious things is the left is still trying to spin that to this day. I remember
when I was in high school, what we were taught by our history book and by our history teacher
was that the Republicans were actually meddling behind the scenes to ensure that the hostages weren't released until Reagan was president.
But of course, they were going to do it anyway.
Everyone knows that that's nonsense.
The reality is they were more afraid of Reagan.
He needs your cutter.
Oh, did you cut the cigar?
No, you got to cut the cigar.
I need to cut something off.
I'm going to pass that on down.
That's a little Mayflower cutter.
They'll be trying to make the same arguments.
It was actually collusion and the Trump campaign was talking
with them or some other
such nonsense. And you put it in your mouth.
No, no, no.
That end's already cut.
Give me the cigar.
Maybe give it to Phil.
Just a little bit. Just a little tiny touch.
Let me see. A little bit more than that.
You're circumcising it.
Is that what this tool is used for?
This looks like a very...
Is this Mayflower logo as well?
My night job is I'm a moil.
It's very handy.
Mazel tov.
Perfect.
That's great.
Spark up the Mayflower.
Watch him absolutely brutalize your cigar.
You need to pop on to get it going.
There we go.
Maybe try to keep it a little more parallel to the ground.
Spin it.
Spin it a little bit.
There you go.
And turn it.
Yeah, that's good.
That's good.
First cigar.
First cigar.
Thank you, Michael Knowles.
It's my pleasure.
This tastes delicious.
This Mayflower cigar might be the best cigar I've ever smoked.
I believe it.
These microphones are going to smell like Mayflower forever.
Are these yours?
It's a blessing.
Can we not do this? Are these yours? Come on around. going to smell like Mayflower forever. Are these yours? It's a blessing. Do we not do this?
Are these yours?
Anyway.
We won the election.
I'm smoking a cigar.
We're like the political bosses in the back room smoking cigars, talking politics.
What are we going to do next?
Donald Trump won the election?
Yeah, we're ending war.
That's usually the opposite of what they do in small film.
Media Matters is going to use this as the right wing cigar room.
What do you think? Michael, what do you think happens now? I mean, it looks like we're going to get the House.
It's it's it's going to be maybe even two hundred and twenty two seats.
Yeah. With the House, the Senate and the presidency and the Supreme Court.
So you need to do anything. Look, I every day that goes by that we don't have results in a race to to me, creates at least the appearance of an opportunity
for shenanigans. So I was really elated that Trump sweeps the rust bell, wins the sun bell.
You know, he just absolutely crushes. And then I wake up today and I see Sam Brown,
marvelous candidate for Senate in Nevada, and he's leading by a little bit. And then all of a sudden,
big batch of votes comes in. Oopsie daisy, Jackie Rosen got it.
Now, hold on. Here's my question about that. Was this actually, because I heard this, that it's mail-in votes that came in after election day.
I don't know that for a fact.
But I do know that the numbers jumped real quick today.
Thank you, sir.
And I heard it was a last minute batch of mail-in votes that just came in.
Everybody's saying this.
And I'm saying if that's true, file a lawsuit, cite the Fifth Circuit Court, and throw them out. You know, look, I don't know
when, even if it were just mail-ins in general, mail-ins that were mailed at the legal moment,
it just creates the appearance of impropriety when three days later you say, okay, top of the
ticket, swept the Sun Belt, swept the Rust Belt, and then all of a sudden, what, we're losing in
Wisconsin, we're losing in Michigan, we're losing in Nevada down ballot.
I don't know, we probably, we're going to lose in Arizona
down ballot anyway, but I don't know, it just
creates the appearance of impropriety.
So regardless, all right, we're not going to have 55.
I got to be honest, Cary Lake's only down
50, what, 51,000?
Really? Yeah, with 75 in.
And they are saying it's going to go
to Lego.
I still don't trust
any of it. Well, actually, okay, if
the new ballots are helping carry,
then I take back everything I said about mail-ins.
I'm very pro-mail-in now. They're great. Bring it, please.
Get me more from maybe outside of Maricopa.
You cynic. No, I'm just...
Look, the whole process is a little
cynical these days. You're not wrong.
But, okay, let's say we get 53
seats, 52, 53 in the Senate.
Let's say even 218, 219 in the House. I mean, better 220, 221, 222. But at that point, then
you've got the Supreme Court. You've got Thomas and Alito likely would retire by the end of Trump's
term. So then you replace them with young justices. I hope you can fill their shoes.
You know, things are looking up, but you still
have that other branch of government that we haven't talked about, which is the bureaucracy.
Well, I do need to say this. I think, Michael, it's time for unity and it's time to reach across
the aisle. The Democrats have some policies that we've never liked, but I think we should embrace,
like expanding the Supreme Court starting on January 21st.
I'm hoping we do that.
And we want, you know, it was their idea. It. Absolutely. And we should give it. You know what else we got to do,
you know, in the spirit of unity and bipartisanship, they really wanted to end the
filibuster. So I think with 52 seats in this is a prime time to end the filibuster. I agree.
And totally agree with you. Democrats, you know, we didn't agree with those policies,
but we're going to we're going to make concessions now for the sake of unity.
It's an olive branch. We're extending them an olive branch.
We are such gracious, charitable people.
Mr. Nose, there's been a lot of chat about like a so-called political realignment.
Trump won all of the swing states with this new coalition of young men and Hispanic voters.
Do you believe this is a new coalition, a new realignment that we're seeing?
It manifestly is. I hear this every
cycle over the past decade. It's a realignment. It never quite comes to pass. But 20 percent of
black men, that's shocking. Forty six percent of Hispanics. That's shocking. We haven't seen
that since Bush. I think that actually beats Bush's numbers in 04. You see labor votes following
the Teamsters decision not to endorse the Democrat. That's pretty
shocking. I mean, that's just undeniable at a certain point that a realignment has taken place.
Meanwhile, who were the biggest boosters of the Democrat ticket? The Cheney family.
That's not a realignment. I don't know what is. They were calling on W. They were saying,
George W. Bush, you need to say something. You need to say something. Fascism's on the ballot,
which is hilarious because as we all know, they called him a fascist. They've called everyone before him a fascist.
Literally going all the way back to Ike Eisenhower. Eisenhower was called a fascist by the left.
It's just, and not just a fascist, they called him a Nazi. They called him Hitlerian.
Well, my favorite thing is that they were calling on Hitler from 2003 to fight against
Hitler from 2024. Save us, Hitler. You're our only hope.
That's going to get clipped.
I should have been facing the camera if only.
I loved, speaking of groups that clip you dishonestly,
you saw that not only did Kamala concede,
but Kamala HQ has called it quits,
you know, the campaign Twitter.
And I'll tell you, man, I'm going to
miss it. I got great publicity out of them. I think they repelled so many voters and sent them
into Trump's camp or at least convinced them to stay home. Well, not me because they defamed me
and we have a pending case against them and are awaiting a response in our lawsuit.
Hey, look, I thought about that. I thought about suing them because they
truly and incontrovertibly defamed me.
But I was kind of just too tired to put the whole thing together.
Can I just jump on? Can this be like a class action thing where you just give me my cut of the proceeds at the end?
No.
Honestly, so the only thing I can say about it is for everybody who's waiting.
These things take forever, and I'm not entirely sure what happens next because
they're they're done but uh as far as i know we are moving forward in every reasonable meaningful
way legally and we have um i don't know what i'm supposed to say on this one but the filing is
public all the movement should be publicly available that's publicly available, I guess, and it's going. So I expect, I demand satisfaction.
I demand, you know, they said that I was a big Project 2025 person, because I don't know,
because I know Kevin Roberts, I guess. That was the only, they had no connection to it whatsoever.
And I thought, you guys are giving me real promotions here on your account. But but it was very telling that the way that the Trump
campaign attacked Kamala was by revealing her own policies in her own words. You know, when she said
she wanted to ban fracking Tim Walz on his abortion extremism and transgender extremism.
And the way that Kamala camp attacked us was by just completely making stuff up. Yeah. Yeah,
it's totally true. Part of what was particularly hilarious,
I don't know if you saw this today,
but your colleague Matt Walsh tweeted,
I believe two days ago,
that now that Trump's in office,
we should just start admitting
that we really wanted Project 2025,
which was an obvious joke and was hilarious.
But part of what's really funny about that
is there were left-wing accounts
screenshotting that, retweeting it,
saying, see, the credulous media trusted Republicans, which firstly, the media smeared Trump with
Project 2025 constantly. But what I find so funny about that is the fact that Matt Walsh is a man
who built his career trolling liberals, just released a documentary that crushed at the box
office, which is exclusively based on him trolling liberals.
His profile picture is him dressed as the character he trolled liberals as,
and liberals saw his tweet trying to troll them, and they still took the bait.
They still, it's hilarious. There is not an easier group of people to troll
because they're so desperate to be self-serious.
That's the terrifying thing about Matt is his deadpan. It's so
good. Stone cold psychopath
without question. The thing that's also
crazy about it is anyone who's really
in the know in conservatism knows
we're not about Project 2025.
We're about Project 2026.
That's right. Even bigger,
baby. One more.
You don't know what's in it. It's one more than
25. Yeah. 25, that was old.
That's old time. More than anything else, it feels as though Project 2025 and the fear-mongering
around it was desperation from the Democrats as they were trying to claw at something to attack
Trump. Also, by the way, it's very moderate. If you've actually read through anything in Project
2025, it doesn't even come close to being fringe right. The Project 2025 is a project of the Heritage Foundation, which is the most mainstream conservative think tank.
And also what is even meant by Project 2025 is just a list of personnel that could staff an administration.
It's a database of email addresses.
To be fair, the whole I mean, the left looks at anything that is, you know, to the to the right of what they currently want not what
they currently have right but what they currently want yeah anything to the right is the absolute
end of the world yeah there is no there is no moderation there's no there's no ability to
moderate their emotions everything is an absolute catastrophe anytime they lose anything i want to
jump to the story from Daily Mail.
CNN host silenced as Democrat strategist turns on colleagues,
quote, we are not the party of common sense.
CNN contributor Julie Roginski criticized onlookers
and her own colleagues during the segment.
The argument was triggered after another on-air contributor asked
Roginski if Biden should have dropped out of the race sooner.
Roginski explained through a series of what she called hard truths why she believes the Democratic
Party had become increasingly out of touch. Similar criticisms were waged in the wake of
the election in 2016, where many counted out Trump as a credible threat. In fact,
they were calling him the Pied Piper candidate. Here we go. Let's play the clip.
Now, I'm going to speak some hard truths to my friends in the Democratic Party.
This is not Joe Biden's fault. It's not Kamala Harris's fault.
It's not Barack Obama's fault.
It is the fault of the Democratic Party in not knowing how to communicate effectively to voters.
We are not the party of common sense, which is the message that voters sent to us.
For a number of reasons. For a number of reasons reasons we don't know how to speak to voters when we address Latina and language lose the language
has meaning we address Latino voters is Latin X for instance because that's the
politically correct thing to do it makes them think that we don't even live in
the same planet as they do when we are too afraid to say that hey college kids
if you're trashing a campus at Columbia University because you aren're unhappy about some sort of policy and you're taking over a university
and you're trashing it and preventing other students from learning, that that is unacceptable.
But we're so worried about alienating one or another cohort in our coalition that we don't
know what to say when normal people look at that and say, wait a second, I send my kids to college
so they can learn, not so that they can burn buildings and trash lawns. Right. And so on and so forth.
When we put pronouns after names and say she, her, as opposed to saying, you know what,
if I call you by the wrong pronoun, call me out. I'm sorry. I won't do it again. But stop.
Not even that. Yeah, not even that. I'm saying like speak to people like they're normal. There's
nothing I'm going to say to sure. Michael, I saw a really great post from some guy who's like a social Democrat.
And he was like, why can't Democrats just be normal?
No one wants millions of people storming across their borders and going into their homes.
Well, you know, there's a famous communist theorist, Antonio Gramsci.
He's an Italian theorist.
And in the prison notebooks, which is his great work that was translated actually by Pete Buttigieg's dad, Joseph Buttigieg.
So they're all, and Kamala is the daughter of a Marxist.
So you're seeing them seep into the government.
But Gramsci made a great point, which is that no revolution can succeed if the revolutionaries lose the common sense.
If you don't have the common sense, the common people aren't going
to want your cockamamie theories. And that's exactly what happened in 24.
I think the STEM strategist is on point, but she's not addressing the elephant in the room
and that the older, more moderate Democrats are beholden to the youth of the party that is far
left. The youth of the party does believe in gender changes. They do believe in these pronouns.
They do believe in Latinx and all these extreme things that she's talking about.
But that's where the power and excitement from the Democrat Party is coming from.
And that's why they cannot abandon them.
Well, the other problem is the logic of the so-called moderate Democrats inevitably leads
to the radical Democrats.
You know, so if the if the moderate Democrats say feminism is great, LGBT revolution
is great. Well, what you're really saying is men and women are basically the same. Yes. And so if
you're saying men and women are basically the same and then you're saying two men is the same as two
women is the same as a man and a woman. We can redefine marriage. We can redefine the social
building block of marriage. Well, then don't you inevitably get to transgenderism? If men and women
are the same, then why can't a man be a woman? That's exactly right.
From gay marriage to transgender. I don't see how you avoid it.
Yeah, no. What Michael's pointing out is that what the radical left does is just takes normie
liberal positions to a more logical conclusion. If you believe that men and women are interchangeable
within a marriage, then men and women are interchangeable within a marriage
then men and women being interchangeable in a sport i think there's a difference
first of all it's not about what you think it's about it's about leftists yeah what they think
and it's not just that men and women are interchangeable it's that all people are
interchangeable yeah eventually yeah you're
right if you if you talk to a leftist they will tell you that anybody could do what elon musk
could do if they were put into the same conditions the it's big it's about nurture versus nature
they believe that if you take any human being yep and put them into a situation and give them
all the same things that they
had leading up to it, they would be the same thing.
And it's not true at all.
That's exactly what they think.
I think the difference here is that gay marriage doesn't defy science, right?
Two dudes-
Does it not?
I don't know.
To have children it does, but as far as them just being crazy men or doing whatever they
have to do.
Gender change operations defy science.
Telling somebody they could change genders.
Yeah.
But you know,
saying you're attracted to her now,
you could think there's things about that that are wrong or incorrect,
but like there's something,
there's a scientific base for it.
But I think you just made the point very well,
because I guess maybe we need to do a new Matt Walsh documentary instead of
what is a woman.
It's what is marriage?
What,
what distinguishes marriage from any other combination of two people
you know i got buddies we're well we're buddies we're hanging out uh my buddy and i are not married
because we don't do the things that married people do fortunately and uh there's there's an adam
sandler movie about this i'm not kidding well no but yeah it's like a scientific question it's i
mean it's a philosophical question but like just on a scientific basis sodomy and sex are two
different things they're different but it's gays can have sex and it's a philosophical question, but just on a scientific basis, sodomy and sex are two different things. Sure, but it's
gays can have sex, and there's
no scientific question here.
But I think there is a question whether or not a man
can become a woman. You could question,
what is marriage? It's supposed to be a religious institution.
No, I'm not even saying that. I'm just saying at a very natural
basic level, it would seem to me,
and I'm just off the top of my head here,
that marriage is a union
between a man and a woman for the purpose...
A religious union, though.
Well, I'm not even saying that.
I'm just saying it's a union
between a man and a woman
for the purpose of begetting
and educating children
and as a secondary matter
for the mutual support
of the spouses.
That's what defines
what marriage is.
Just like the leftist tears tumbler
exists to give me
delicious leftist tears
and sometimes spin drift,
just like the cigar exists to give me tasty, delicious tears and sometimes spin drift, just like a cigar exists
to give me tasty, delicious Mayflower smoke. So too marriage exists for a purpose. And so
if you get two fellas together or two ladies or three dudes in a billy goat, they they're in some
kind of union. I'm not denying that, but it just it's it's different. But I do get what a lot of
saying because remove the word marriage from it and say a legal apparatus has been created for tax purposes and and legal rights and hospitals and things for people who are together as partners, whatever you want to call it.
Going to someone and saying we're going to we're going to telling a child, especially you can be the opposite gender is not possible in any way. What they could say is, we can give you a surgery so that you can be a facsimile
or representation similar to a female,
but you will never be female.
But isn't that,
that's the same thing as gay marriage,
is it's a facsimile or a kind of parody
that seems similar to marriage,
but it's not.
So the issue is telling people that they,
like, arguing marriage,
I get what you're saying,
but I understand what,
what a lot of the point he's trying to make is that there's no irreversible
surgery involved to a child.
It's like,
if two guys are living in a room,
we can argue the definition and say,
this is not right.
And this is a great point really,
which is like,
if we're all agreeing that broadly as a matter of logic,
this is,
that's true.
And there's a fair analogy here,
but it doesn't strike people the
same way. And I think this is what happened in 2024. People don't really that, you know,
two guys want to do a willing grace thing, whatever it's not that doesn't affect them.
They don't think about it. But you see a little kid being castrated, being put on cross-sex
hormones, being brainwashed by his public school teacher, who's a far leftist. You just think at a gut level that is so repulsive
that you are going to vote against anybody who promotes that.
Electorally speaking, too, gay marriage,
I don't think is what she was alluding to.
I think she was talking about the trans stuff
and going a little bit farther.
In the Republican Party, we have a large amount of LGBTQ,
or I don't know about the TQ, but at least the LGBT.
Bruce Jenner, I guess. And in Trump's cabinet there,
Rick Grinnell is, you know, probably going to have a cabinet position. So I think that stuff,
the super unpopular stuff that I think most adult Democrats are, again, repulsed by,
thinking that you could change genders, but they're at least decently okay.
But I guess to bring it full circle, my only point on this is not that the Supreme Court's
going to overrule Obergefell.
That's not going to happen anytime soon.
President Trump has not called for anything like that.
That's what they said about Roe v. Wade, though.
So, you know, settled law.
With Roe v. Wade, conservatives were actively trying to overrule that for 50 years.
There's very little appetite.
And even the liberals on the court knew that it was a bad decision.
I remember the spin about Roe v. Wade was settled law.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Do you guys remember that phrase? Do you guys remember settled law? Yeah. v. Wade was settled law. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Do you guys remember that phrase?
Do you guys remember settled law?
Yeah.
Well, you remember settled law.
Hold on.
I just want to say, don't hold a conservative woman accountable for things that lawyers say, all right?
Because they're always going to have a sketchy way of putting it.
Even Ruth Bader Ginsburg is on record saying it was a bad decision, that it was a bad thing for the court.
I don't disagree. You can't disagree with it. She said it. badly made a bad decision that it was a bad thing for the court so there was it was well i'm not
you can't disagree with it she said it um i don't disagree with her that it was yeah properly so
so it's one thing to say oh roe was was settled law etc but the conservatives had been making
the case that they were going to eventually change it forever. Am I out of touch here?
Was it not constantly said about Roe v. Wade
that it was settled?
Well, Democrats were saying that.
Which was technically true.
No, Republicans and right-wingers would say this too
to try to alleviate their concerns about it.
Here's what would happen.
You'd get a conservative judicial nominee would come up
and you'd get some radical lib fanatical for killing babies
would say, do you agree with Roe v. Wade, whatever.
And then the conservative would say, totally truthfully say,
Roe versus Wade is settled
law, which was true at the time.
It's a lawyer answer for him.
That's also
the same thing that Kamala
Harris was doing when she said,
I will follow the law when people
pose difficult questions to her, which she did
endlessly. I'm going to guess I'm an idiot for believing
that because I remember five years ago hearing,
oh, settle law. I was like, oh, yeah, that sounds about right.
You can't believe that.
First of all, why would you ever believe a lawyer?
We settled this, right?
But I guess to bring it full circle, the reason I bring up the marriage thing is not that
anyone's going to go back to before Obergefell.
It's not going to happen anytime soon.
It's settled law.
It's settled law.
The reason is because we're trying to figure out how the moderate Democrats can deal with the really woke Democrats and liberals and the leftists.
But the thing is, they can't.
I have a boy.
It's just the anti-communist act of 1954.
I think.
Bring that down.
Hold on.
Hold on.
No, no, no, no.
It is already settled law in the 1964 Civil Rights Act that communists are exempt from civil rights protection.
Yeah.
That's right.
Isn't that true?
Shout out to Josie the Red-Headed Libertarian for broadcasting this.
Based?
Now, it's a reality.
But let's do this.
Wait, can I?
I just want to make one quick point.
I was trying to get in here about the debate.
It'll be very quick.
No, no.
We don't want to hear it.
Ah, God, man.
It's already settled law, Seamus. We already settled it it i just wanted to say it's settled no all i wanted
to say here was um even though you're right that she wasn't pointing to like homosexual unions
specifically the reality is all of the victories for the lgbtq movement had to be forced onto the
public through the courts nobody ever voted for it so and when they did vote they voted against it
exactly even in california it had to be forced on the public in California.
So this is an issue
that has been forced
from the top down.
People aren't calling for it,
so it's not going to be popular
in the voting booth.
I want to jump to this story
from Wired.
The Manosphere One.
As we sit here
smoking cigars.
Maybe they're right after all.
Someone fly in tea, please.
So first of all,
this is not a Manosphere show.
We're not masculine-oriented young men or any of that stuff.
Speak for yourself.
Donald Trump owes at least part of his victory to the Manosphere,
the amorphous assortment of influencers who are mostly young, exclusively male,
and increasingly the drivers of the remaining online monoculture.
I like the call.
They want to mention Nelk Boys, Aiden Ross, Schultz, Sean Ryan, Joe Rogan.
They say, but he's the one you've definitely heard of.
You're going to hear a lot of a tribute. Trump's win to all kinds of reasons, inflation, et cetera, et cetera.
They say it was these podcasts and streams that Trump spent a disproportionate amount of time in the final weeks of his campaign for a good reason.
That list above, plus Tucker Carlson, includes four, the four biggest podcasters on Spotify. Trepp sat with all
of them, often for hours, reaching millions
of conservative or apolitical people,
cementing his status as one of them.
A Sigma guy, a guy with clout, and the apex
model of masculinity that prioritizes
fame as a virtue unto itself.
Certainly not the message that was delivered, because
nobody looked at it that way. But
what I love about this is they mention
his podcast appearance,
and then they have this. They say, what Trump and his team understood is that the disclosure,
to whatever extent that means anything anymore, no longer happens in op-ed columns or the Daily
Show. Kamala Harris seemingly did not. She did appear on Call Her Daddy, a stratospherically
popular podcast with an audience primarily comprising young women. And her campaign
enlisted a number of influencers as surrogates. But she skipped Rogan, Lex Fridman, and other mainstream adjacent
marathon podcasts. And even if she hadn't, the world of conservative influencers dwarfs their
liberal counterparts in both follower size and impact. In the same way Democrats never found
their own Rush Limbaugh, they don't have a Stephen Crowder or a Ben Shapiro or even so help us.
There are Democrats with followings online, but the cumulative gap in people paying attention
to what they say is several orders of magnitude wide. You know, reflect, please reflect on this.
Yeah. My neighborhood in Chicago flipped for Donald Trump. I want to say this. It's
Maggie and Seamus, too. Yeah, that's right. When I was a little kid, I lived there. Garfield
Ridge boys right here. And
this is blue Chicago in 2016
was blue. It started to turn red in
2020. And now Garfield Ridge
and clearing are red. Yeah, not the entirety.
But in the in the westernmost
portion, there's a gigantic red square of
my entire neighborhood. Everyone's like Trump. It's
because of you and the manosphere that you lead
obviously. So help us.
I love that they're talking about how there's like no, no, you know, Tim Pool or whatever.
And they totally ignore the communist, the Twitch communist.
I'm not even going to say his name.
Everyone knows the Twitch communist that I'm talking about, the himbo.
But I want to say this because a point was made.
Mehdi Hassan was talking to some guys on some show and he was like, they said Kamala should have gone on Rogan.
And he goes, no, we Democrats needed Joe Rogan.
And the response was they had one.
His name was Joe Rogan.
That's right.
That's right.
That's right.
Well, I also just want to point this out.
This term manosphere is hilarious because it just turns being a man into a political opinion.
What these podcasts actually have in common with one
another. What they're saying is we have failed to secure the mail vote. So what we're going to do
is tie together a coalition of things in podcasts that men happen to enjoy and then say this is a
dangerous political movement that was working against us. I need to stress this real quick
because they're saying we don't have a Tim pool you did have a tim pool his name was
tim pool my neighborhood in chicago which has been democrat my whole life which had the mayor come
down a democrat mayor that everyone cheered for is now voting for trump it's not that you don't
have one it's that democrats want to live in a world where the only the only thing that makes
you a democrat is choosing to be a democrat they They're like, we don't have a Garfield Ridge.
They're thinking what they're saying is we need a podcaster who no matter what happens,
no matter what the policies, they will always just say they're a Democrat.
The liberals have ostracized everything masculine and coded it as right wing.
And now when it's come to bite them in the ass in the election with younger men, they're
saying, oh, what's going on?
Why? Why are they going to Theo Vaughn, Joe Rogan, people who talk about stereotypical masculine things?
And why is this all right wing coded? Because they made it that way.
They made they ostracized all the people who if you go to the gym, it's right wing coded.
All of these things that are traditionally masculine have become right wing coded.
And now if you get married and have children, that's like that's a that's fine.
Right wing.
Fine.
Let it's actually a good thing for us.
I agree.
Because if the left hates young men, hates masculinity, hate because and there is there
are innumerable positive things about masculinity.
Competency is masculine.
There's just an endless array of things that are that are masculine, that are good.
If the left hates those things, if they hate winning if they hate all things that
that go along with masculine men that's okay yeah let them come to the right i agree i think they
also admitted here that the media is on the the outswing um they're saying their op-eds are no
longer relevant now what matters is going on theo von and tim pool and joe ro. It doesn't matter if you write an op-ed in the New York Times.
Nobody reads it anymore.
Nobody cares.
It's an echo chamber.
And I will give a shout out again to Josie.
On YouTube, you can search for 1776xJosie and subscribe just at 10,000 subscribers with
their new channel.
So shout out.
Well, I just want to mention, I'm actually shocked that they didn't mention white guys
for Harris as a force that helped deliver the fraction of the male vote that they did get. The reality is I was watching
some of their ads and making fun of them. And you'll notice, absolutely, you'll notice that
in none of the messaging they put out there, do they ever say a single good thing about white men?
So it's all, you can be different from the other white men. You can, you can stand above the
fray, but it's like, if you want to appeal to a demographic, you have to at least be willing to
say one, one good thing about them as a group. They cannot, they can't do it. I was watching
an ad they made a while ago. And it was actually one I saw because Matt Walsh retweeted it and said,
like, this looks like a woman's idea of what a man ad should be or something. It was just
obviously not written by a man. And if it was certainly not written by a straight man.
But it's going on about like, hey, white guys kind of stinks being told we suck all the time.
I get it. But it's like, OK, let's just let's just sidestep the fact that it's your party
telling us we suck all the time and then never say any reason why that shouldn't happen or why
white men are good.
And so this is my challenge to any political leader on the left or any pundit on the left who's concerned about the fact that you don't have the white male vote. Say one good thing
about white men without throwing caveats at it, without giving a but, without mentioning
historic injustices. Say one thing you appreciate or are grateful to white men for. Don't. They
will never do it. Don't,
don't listen to him.
And that is why they will never,
that is why they will never get our vote.
We like the results on Tuesday.
Don't listen to Seamus.
We like the results we got.
Don't listen to him.
Actually,
I think the important thing for Democrats to,
to realize is that Kamala ran a perfect campaign and it's misogyny's fault.
Exactly.
It's misogyny's fault.
And they should,
they should,
next time they run a campaign,
it should be the same as Kamala.
They're,
they're in meltdown right now.
They're melting down because they've already alienated white men intentionally.
But the group of people, the two groups of people that delivered that margin of victory were black guys and Hispanics broadly.
So the new white supremacists are blacks and Hispanics.
And you've heard it on The View. You've heard on cable news that the black men and Hispanics are now being accused of misogyny. That's right. And that might carry
some water if Trump had not also done better with women than he did last time. The women
started to move over, including young and single women. We'll see, Michael, the women did it
because they're racist and the minorities did it because they're sexist. But I'll also say this.
If the Democrats weren't in a bad enough position now with some of the minority groups that they're losing as voters,
I think they've put themselves in an even worse position after this election,
because a lot of what I have seen has been statements about how this was only because of racism or some other kind of ism,
but primarily racism.
And part of why I think that's so insulting is because, firstly, it's not as if a black person can't win a presidential election.
We've seen it happen. Barack Obama literally won the presidential election.
His mom was right. I don't know.
We know. Hold on. We know that black people can win elections in this country. And so I just find
it astounding and incredibly tone deaf that when they nominated a woman who didn't win a primary,
who was extremely unlikable, who was a cackling, bubble-headed fool,
who is far to the left of what any American wanted.
And then she lost.
They went, that's because she's black.
We just can't nominate black candidates and win.
Yeah, I guess the real issue they should be dealing with is the we nominate part.
Because, you know, probably if they want their black woman,
or however Kamala is going to identify next time,
if they want her to win the general, they need her to win a single primary ever.
That is probably going to be conducive to her success.
And it's because they're so shocked.
You see, like, how did this happen?
How is it that this horrible candidate who's very unpopular and didn't win a single primary
lost the presidential election
to the single most popular candidate
in the Republican Party?
How could this have happened?
It's really obvious, actually.
How ridiculous is their messaging, right?
They complained, like even Jimmy Kimmel was like,
oh, democracy's in danger.
We had a perfectly fair Democratic election
the night previous to when he's saying democracy's in danger.
And they say, oh, we're worried about our democracy.
And Kamala Harris was the least democratically elected.
She was selected. There was nothing democratic about her selection you saw though during her
concession she implicitly admitted that the democracy threat was all nonsense because she
she said guys it's going to be okay we're sad and it's okay to be sad but it's okay and so
she's basically saying hey guys we just elected hitler and that's okay and And so she's basically saying, hey, guys, we just elected Hitler and that's OK.
And so Hitler's OK with me. That's what she's saying.
Well, oh, go ahead. I was going to say, I just monologue.
The two things that I feel as though the Kamala Harris campaign was focusing on was one so-called democracy.
And that was kind of debunked when she didn't win any primary votes.
And she was focusing on January 6th and how Donald Trump was allegedly a threat to democracy, was going to lock up all his political opponents.
But how does that make any sense when Trump is facing multiple convictions across the country?
Then abortion was their second top issue,
and Trump dispelled that very aggressively when he said constantly
that he would come out against the national abortion ban and wouldn't push that.
So he quickly dispelled both of their big narratives, their big spin.
And then we're dealing with the immigration crisis,
and I'm glad the election turned out the way it did.
Yeah, absolutely.
Absolutely.
In terms of what Trump has to do in his first two years,
you know, in case things flip
and he's not able to get things done.
I mean, obviously the deportations
and the border security has to be first and foremost.
And also I think something has to be done
to put pressure on states to require photo ID in order to vote.
I want to jump to this tweet
from our good friend, David Pakman.
He says,
as we speak,
progressives are tuning out
due to understandable despondency
over last night's results.
I won't speak about others,
but I've lost 10,000 YouTube subscribers overnight.
Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
When the right loses,
they fund operations like Turning Point, Invest in media, et cetera. If we abandon now,
we see total control to absolute lunatics. Not a good idea. This is such retconning. I was on TV
with Cenk Uygur. We were on a Piers Morgan show. And this was right after they picked Tim Walz.
And I said, I think Tim Walz is a bad pick because he's an extreme leftist who tried to turn
Minnesota into the windowless white van of the Midwest.
And hey, trans kids, come on over here.
I mean, he's a total wacko.
And and Cenk said, no, Michael, this was a great pick.
And you'll see you'll you'll be crying on Election Day.
It was smart of her to pick.
So he agreed with my characterization that that Walls was a leftist.
And I would go further and say Kamala, in as much as she has any beliefs, is a radical leftist who wanted to end fracking and open borders and all the rest.
So now you're getting this retconning from guys like Pacman saying, if only we'd picked a progressive, if only the progressives had turned out.
Cenk said the same thing. If only we had a populist. Hey, guys, you you previously said you did that.
That didn't work. What are you going to do now?
The tweet here from David Pacman is that he lies to people.
Okay, I'll be nicer.
He's wrong so often.
He was incredibly wrong now, and he's losing subscribers over it.
And what we're hearing is that many of these prominent left and liberal channels are bleeding subscribers.
I just want to say this.
Kyle Kalinske, I used to think he was a nice guy.
He's kind of gone off the deep end on
X. When he posted a picture from an airplane looking at farms and then said, I wonder why
it looks this way, he got dragged mercilessly for not knowing what a farm was. And I said,
hey, look, he's an urban liberal guy, but he's been very nice. And he'll have a conversation
with you. Well, my friends, before the election, the day before, he said his bearish prediction for Kamala was that she would
win all swing states, Iowa and Florida. A remarkable prediction. He said what he thought
was likely was that she would win every swing state. And his worst case scenario is that you
get 276. Why are these channels bleeding subscribers? I don't know
if Kyle is, but why is David Pakman? Because they're wrong. Massively wrong. Well, and we're
seeing a lot of predictions from people who completely missed the election, right? People
whose predictions about this election were disastrously wrong are now giving us their
predictions on what the next four years are going to look like. And people are saying,
you know what? I'm actually not that interested. I don't think you've developed a good predictive model.
I don't think you know what the American people want.
I don't think you understand right-wing strategy
or what conservatives are going to do when elected.
I don't think you know what you're talking about.
To be fair to Kalinsky, he's a leftist,
and leftists are terrible with farming anyways, historically.
That's a good point.
But the left has been saying all day for the past two days now
that they haven't gone far enough left.
That was the problem.
There are a lot of the more far left people that are saying that.
And you look at the graph that shows like the areas with the little small, tiny little arrows that go have gone to the right.
And how many, how far and everything has been a right-wing sweep there was there was a sweep of the people
or there was a sweep of the the looks like the house is going to be definitely the senate there
were a bunch of leftists recalled out of california california's law gave up a bunch of george gascon
the da yeah he's gone they gave up a bunch of um counties that went right and these people are
saying oh well you the reason is because
we didn't have enough people on the enough leftists and the leftists stayed home. And they're
they're what they're saying is if you look at 2020, which was a totally novel and unique election,
whether you think it was fair or not, it was unquestionably novel and unique. There was a
totally new method of collecting,
of getting people to vote and getting ballots.
And they're looking at that and they're saying,
well, all those 14 million or 15 million
or whatever people stayed home.
And it's like, those were phantoms.
Those people never voted regularly.
They were never going to go to the polls.
They were never going to actually get off their couch.
If it was fair in 2020 and i'm
only going for argument's sake if it was fair it was because the ballots were mailed to people's
homes they were filled out and then someone went and picked them up because the low propensity
voters voters and the people that have no idea what they're voting for filled out those ballots
the way that they thought was the nice way to do it. And those ballots got turned in.
That's the only way that it could have been.
When you look at like Pacman's Twitter account, he says Trump's final message that Pelosi's
a bitch.
And it's like, whatever, I get those things.
I think this tweet right here is a granular example of what's wrong with the left and
why they lose subscribers.
RFK being in charge of all things medical is quickly becoming a major reason not to
vote for Trump.
Wow.
But it's things like that. When you talk to a lot of liberals and hippy dippy people,
they're going, yeah, RFK Jr. is right. RFK Jr. had a video a month or two ago about this coal tar additive they use as yellow dye that people are eating that we know causes health problems.
He talked about fluoride being in the water being a problem. David Pakman
giving a knee jerk nonsense reaction to RFK Jr. is why Democrats lose and why he loses subscribers.
The response to RFK Jr. is, well, we need that message, too. There are tons of hippy dippy
leftist organic farmers who are sitting there saying RFK Jr. is right about everything.
And the Democrats are like, no, you're all crazy rfk juniors nuts and you guys we should
all eat plastics you want to talk about a realignment when i was a kid all the hippies
who ate the 15 eggs and worried about pesticides they were all on the left yes now they are trad
moms with like four kids in the suburbs but no it's absolutely right it was it was up this year
even in the past year
and a half two years people on the right have been like when when did all the hippies start
getting on the right and what happened actually during during covet is when you notice but when
it was the when it was the vaccine stuff but people were like when did all the hippies start
saying that trump was good there was some people that i saw a picture of that were at a trump rally
in in tie-dye shirts that had Grateful Dead type imagery.
And it said Trump on it.
And people were baffled.
The reason is because they have always been anti-government, anti-pharma, anti-big corporation.
And now the Republicans are the ones that are like, look, all the big corporations are giving to the Democrats.
All the big corporations are trying to tell us what to do.
All the big corporations want to to tell us what to do.
All the big corporations want to get involved in what we have to take.
And who runs those corporations?
Who runs the establishment?
All Democrats. The Democrats are now the party of the government.
And that didn't, maybe that's been the case for a while,
but it didn't seem like that was the case.
So now, if you're skeptical of big power, wherever it may be,
let's not forget Barry Goldwater.
He wrote that a conservative is one who is skeptical of all monopolies, of all hyper concentrated power.
And but now all that power is that that's that's why Democrats view the Trump election as an insurrection in itself.
Forget about the Capitol. Forget about January 6th. They view it as an insurrection.
And in a way,
it kind of is because the Democrats dominate the government. Well, and here's the real scandal that
none of them are willing to point to. They say people no longer trust the experts in the media
or in medicine or in food processing and production. But why is that? We are one of the
most obese. We are literally the fattest country on the planet. We are the most obese nation on the planet. We are one of the sickest developed nations on the planet. Everyone on the left acknowledges that we have one of the worst health care systems in the world. I would temper that a little bit. They take it a bit too far, but's been trained by the same institutions that the left claims are broken and
destroying our country,
they go,
this person isn't an expert.
You can't listen to them.
Well,
where has listening to the experts gotten us?
It's made us the most obese nation on the planet.
We have food that makes us less healthy.
We have a medical system that seems to want us sick.
We have a media that tells us lies and misinforms people and clearly didn't
have the predictive power to tell us where this election was going to go or what the American people wanted. So maybe you should try challenging
the experts if you want to win, because they have been leading you in this entire country
in the wrong direction for decades and everyone knows it. And even if you plug your ears and yell
at people and call them bigots for acknowledging that reality, it's still true and everyone else
sees it. So why don't you come join the party? So I do have a correction though. I have to correct
you. We are not the fattest country in the world. We are the most obese.
We are not. We're number 19.
We're number 19 now? If I'm not mistaken,
we're the fattest. There are countries more fat
or the most obese. American Samoa,
Tonga, Nauru, Tokolau,
Cook Islands, New, Tuvalu,
Samoa, French Polynesia.
Wait, but hold on. You said American Samoa. Yeah, they sound like
American territories. Yeah, doesn't that count?
We're still number one, baby.
Yeah, I want to claim it.
Even though it's like a little bit different,
I want to claim the American Samoan.
I think Tonga should be number one.
So that would put us at 18.
You're right.
America should not be on the list.
But we're not, we're not, yeah,
there's like Bahamas are fatter than we are.
They have all that nice chicken
and those little beef patties.
But if you go, but my point is,
if you go to other developed nations and see the food that they're eating,
they eat much more than us, and they don't get as fat as us.
And people will say this, too.
I went to Europe.
I ate as much as I ate here.
I felt better.
My weight was lower.
There's no question that there's a massive problem with obesity in the United States.
Michael, I wanted to follow up with you on something.
So Trump and many former Trump officials.
Sorry, we are 18. You're right. So Trump and many former Trump officials.
We are we are 18. You're right. Samoa is not supposed to. They're very fat there. But Tonga is number one.
We need to claim American Tonga. We need to get back to number one.
Oh, yeah. I appreciate this. I think we're getting heading in the right direction. But Trump and many of his officials faced what it seems like motivated attacks from the Department of Justice and others.
For example, Trump obviously had a bunch of cases.
Steve Bannon only recently got out of jail.
Do you believe the Trump administration should go after Democrats who he believed
broke the law or strike a more conciliatory tone?
Well, certainly President Trump needs to enforce the law.
I mean, the problem with Peter Navarro's case or Steve Bannon's case
is that they were ruptures with the American jurisprudential tradition.
We generally speaking do not imprison senior White House officials for contempt of Congress.
We had never done that before.
Peter Navarro was the first one.
Now Steve Bannon goes to prison.
I mean, convicting a former president is something we've never done before as well.
So I don't encourage that.
I don't think that we should be jailing former presidents. Let Hillary go run amok. She can go take out her
enemies or whatever she does in her spare time. But I don't think we should be jailing former
top White House officials. Well, I think at least right now, Merrick Garland, it's good to jail.
I think Trump should bring in an AG and just say this country expects accountability and equality
under the law. Peter Navarro and Steve Bannon served their time for contempt of Congress. Merrick Garland would do the same. Or Eric Holder. Eric Holder also
refused to congressional. I'm OK with I agree with you largely that we don't want to create
this precedent. I think for right now, you've got a large portion of the American people who are
upset that Peter Navarro and Steve Bannon went to prison and Merrick Garland did not. And this
is within the same context. This is like within a few months of each other. But you're saying Eric
Calder was 10 years ago. They set the precedent. I'm saying we want to set the precedent that we
have equality under the law, not one sided. And that means we're not going to go back a decade
for Eric Calder, but we are going to say, look, it was only a few months ago. Merrick Garland
needs to go to prison for four months or at least investigated and put on trial. No, no,
there's no investigation. He was held in contempt of Congress.
That's it.
So the DOJ just now needs to say
that welcome to jail.
And so that should happen.
The Bannon treatment.
Right.
And it's, look,
you're going to get minimum security.
It's going to be comfortable and cushy,
just like Steve Bannon got.
But if we don't do this,
the American people will believe
that even when you vote
because you demand equality in the law,
you don't get it.
So if we're going to say,
fine, Steve Bannon went to prison, we have two options.
Merrick Garland goes or Trump issues a formal pardon to Navarro and Steve Bannon and would have to compensate them.
Because just saying it shouldn't have happened isn't enough, is not equality.
He should say this is either malicious prosecution of two individuals.
It obviously was.
In which case they should receive a settlement compensation from the government and an apology,
or it's not malicious prosecution and Merrick Garland should be in prison.
Well, at the very least, on the pardon point, there are a lot of people who need pardons.
The majority of January 6thers who really were not violent,
they were just redressing their grievances on a tough day,
those guys who got two years,
they got to go. They got to get out. Let me add to that. Many of them were not even
redressing grievances. I met a couple that didn't know what was going on and were walking around D.C.
This woman told me it was several hours after everything had stopped and people were leaving,
and she walks up to the Capitol with no barricades, open sidewalks. And her and her husband walked up,
walked to the building, which the doors were wide open. She walked inside and looked around for
about a minute or two, took some pictures on her phone and then left. And they were smiling and
giggling. They had no idea there's any violence. They'd seen nothing. And she said a couple months
later, feds kicked her door in, arrested her, and she was sentenced to 18 months.
Many such cases. The other pardons that need to come through, there are people, there is a grandmother,
a lovely pro-life grandmother who is sitting in a federal prison right now.
And there are actually multiple people who are sitting in federal prisons because they
peacefully demonstrated at a baby killing site and they were sentenced under the FACE Act.
And the FACE Act was passed in the 90s, Bill Clinton. And the idea of the FACE Act was you can't block the entrances to abortion centers or pregnancy centers or even churches.
And the thing is, it was totally bogus.
They never prosecute anyone for going after the churches under the FACE Act.
They never prosecute anyone for vandalizing or burning down pregnancy centers.
It's only ever used to defend baby killing sites.
All those people need to receive full pardons
and they need to repeal the face act.
Yeah, well, all right.
Do you remember Mark Houck?
I just want to mention this really quickly.
Mark Houck was a man who was protesting
outside of an abortion clinic, praying.
The police were called because an old man
was harassing and yelling at his son.
And then the old man claimed that Mark Houck pushed him.
The Soros-funded prosecutor decided not to move forward with charges
because there was nothing there.
And then a year later, under the FACE Act,
his house is raided in the middle of the night,
and he's arrested as if he's a dangerous criminal.
Even though Soros-funded DA said there was nothing there to prosecute him with.
My point is, when civilians who are guilty of wrong-think are punished this way,
the idea that we're not going to go after either elected officials or unelected bureaucrats
who are clearly and flagrantly disregarding the law for their political motives is insane.
And if anyone says we need unity, okay, the time for unity can come if Trump decides to pardon some of them.
But they absolutely need to have charges brought.
We got this story from the New York Sun.
Trump lawyer Mike Davis threatens Letitia James with prison in fiery podcast.
Was this real?
I saw this going around.
So I have a video for you from Benny Johnson's show.
I thought it was fake, too.
When Phil told me, I said, Phil, there's no way that's real.
Let me just say this to Big Tish James, the New York attorney general.
I dare you i dare you to try to continue your lawfare
against president trump in his second term because listen here sweetheart we're not messing around
this time and we will put your fat ass in prison for conspiracy against rights and i promise you
that so think long and hard before you want to violate President Trump's constitutional rights or any other Americans' constitutional rights.
It's not going to happen again.
We've been warning people on the show, Mike, this isn't the same Trump administration.
Stop messing around. Don't rig elections. Don't illegally vote. I would like to see a special investigation, a special prosecutor council to review the falsifying business records case out of New York because there is no underlying crime.
Right.
So for those that aren't familiar with the story, Trump was charged with 34 counts of felony falsifying of business records, but that requires an underlying crime.
They said it was falsifying records in furtherance of another crime and never named what the other crime was. That's the only way that it could be,
because it would have been a misdemeanor and the statute of limitations would have expired by the
time they brought it. So they had to raise it to a felony. And in order to raise it for a felony,
they have to show that it was in furtherance of some underlying crime, which they couldn't name
and the jury couldn't name. Yeah, they never actually named the initial crime. So the idea that he was actually legally or legitimately
convicted, that that is a farce. Plus, you saw it already. Jack Smith dropped the 2020
overturning the election case, which was wise of him to do. However, this to your point,
to the point that everyone is making on this panel, what the Democrats have done,
what was the greatest threat to our democracy, our sacred constitution, our republic that we
have seen in recent memory, certainly in any of our lifetimes. And there does need to be some
consequence for that, not out of cruelty, not because we want to just pound our enemies into
the dust, but because if there is not retribution for injustices,
you can fall into one of two errors when there's an injustice. You can be excessive and cruel,
that's wrong, and you can be remiss and encourage further injustice and further threats to our
country. We can't fall into the latter error here. We need to make sure that there is a just
and appropriate punishment or it's just going to happen again. Equality under the law. That's
right. That's right.
That's all we're saying.
And this is what the Kamala campaign got mad at me for.
I said that if we're going to go after anybody when Trump gets elected, it should be for real crimes.
There must be evidence.
Judges need to sign up on warrants.
It's got to be all above board and done by the book perfectly.
And we know there are people who have done wrong.
Merrick Garland should be in jail for contempt of Congress.
That happened.
This unequal application of the law is why I think so many Republicans struggle to condemn harshly January 6th
when they see what happened during the George Floyd riots and all the support they got from Democrats.
I believe Kamala Harris even had a bail fund set up.
It's still on her Twitter. It's still up for
the people who are committing crimes throughout the George Floyd riots. But if any Republican
were to do that for any of the January 6th people who were arrested on January 6th, they would be
arrested themselves. That's absolutely right. So the unequal application of the law here is
really the issue. And that's why I have reluctance condemning a lot of the people who were arrested
on January 6th. That's not to say that nobody did anything wrong.
But of course, when Nancy Pelosi takes a knee in support of George Floyd and the BLM movement at the same time, it's like these aren't honest actors.
So that's why I really struggle with some of that stuff.
Yeah.
You know, we talk a lot in American political culture about authoritarianism, and it's this
big, scary word.
But if you would ask me to give a definition of what authoritarianismism, and it's this big, scary word. But if you would ask
me to give a definition of what authoritarianism actually is, it's not when there's a lot of rules,
and it's not even when rules are strictly enforced. It's when there's a lot of rules
for the people, and those in power have no rules. I believe that authoritarianism is not when there
are too many rules. It's when there are too few rules for your government.
Yeah, exactly.
And to fail to punish elected officials who abuse their power is not merciful.
It's cruelty to the governed.
Yeah, yeah.
That sounds like Adam Smith to me.
Speaking of pardons, do you think that Donald Trump should consider a pardon for Hunter Biden?
Yes.
Michael, no, no, wait, wait, wait.
I think if he were to do something like that,
like not until everyone...
On a conclusive note,
Hunter Biden should not be pardoned
because he needs to win.
I want Hunter Biden to win.
You want Hunter Biden to win.
You know why?
Why?
Because he is being criminally charged
for self-incrimination on the NICS form.
Yeah, yeah.
If he wins the Supreme Court
and makes the argument,
I should not have to self-incriminate
when purchasing a firearm.
Right, right.
If we throw that out,
we get rid of this
required self-incrimination.
No, he should be prosecuted
for the serious crimes he committed.
Not the low-hanging fruit nonsense.
Gun rights advocate,
Hunter Biden now.
That's right.
I'll take it.
I am not going to get emotional
and demand that he suffer
because I can't stand his family or anything like that.
I say this idea that we have a right against self-incrimination and the feds require you to tell them if you're doing if you have in possession of or a user of illegal drugs is literally the government saying, tell us you've committed a crime so we can restrict your rights.
Your right to keep and bear arms shall only be restricted through due process.
That is
penalty for some kind of violation. If if you violate our laws, we can say, OK, we can't have
a gun now. We can also lock you in a box for a long time. Hunter Biden was going to buy a weapon
and the government said, tell us if you committed a crime or not, self-incriminate. And then if you
say yes, you can't have a gun. So he said he said no he's charged for it i think the supreme court should throw it out yeah maybe they should
prosecute him for selling state influence to the ukrainians and the chinese you know that's probably
a more serious crime to go after return tax evasion they have to dink him with the lower
level so we could overlook the burisma all the burisma stuff no no no we'll get him on this gun
charge even the tax stuff is questionable.
Because they're saying
that he failed to pay. And I'm like, okay, okay, hold on.
I believe the penalty for failure to pay
should be, you have to pay. That's it.
So going after a guy who's got the money
and you're like, but you didn't pay on time. I'm like, I don't know.
But how else were we going to get Al Capone?
You know? Well, I do think
it's fair to say that in some circumstances
particularly with Hunter, is he intended to conceal the money so that he didn't have to pay
that's different from just not paying sophisticated tax evasion yeah absolutely very specific i mean
hunter all the libertarians are like nope pardon him on that too because taxation is theft
i'm not i'm not on that i'm not i'm not on that boat though i know you know what is theft though
yeah the libertarians say taxation is theft and I don't think that's true. But
I read a good article the other day that
inflation is theft. Inflation
is theft. Inflation is legitimately theft
and it's a very regressive form of theft.
It hits the poorest people the hardest
but the government has no right
to just recklessly inflate
the currency because they think they're
going to buy themselves a few political favors.
That is theft from people. It acts as a tax on people.
It's worse than the government is printing money and making their money worthless.
Well, actually, so part of the reason that coins have ridges on them is because back
when money was gold or silver or some precious metal, people would shave little bits off
of the edge of the currency so that they could make extra money for themselves.
If that is theft, then inflation is theft because it's just an abstract way of the Fed attempting to
do the exact same thing. Right. Like I'm a little bit of a nerd about this, but like I understand
the argument that a two that two percent inflation or really low inflation consistently. Yeah. It
spurs growth. It does make it makes people want to go ahead it might be inevitable in certain
economic systems possibly yeah um and deflation can turn into a deflationary spiral that's
that's true too yeah but that's not an excuse for the government to print money to pay to their
preferred preferred groups or to big companies when they're printing money at zero percent interest which they
did for a decade after 2008 they gave it to the banks at zero percent interest rates yes the
savings was passed on to the to the people you could get a mortgage for three percent at the at
the best rates but still they were giving that money to the banks the banks were buying stocks
buying things they were buying stuff that was
going to go up in value that was not dollars and that turns into a massive transfer of wealth
from the population because they still have to pay taxes to the richest yeah yeah 30 percent in
three years is a lot different than maybe two percent in a year yes that's huge and well
oh sorry i just want to say they also make it
as difficult as possible to escape inflation. So for example, the fact that capital gains are not
indexed for inflation, I believe is criminal. Let's say you decide that the dollar is going
to start to crash. You're not going to be able to retain the value of your savings. So you go and
buy stock. Okay. So let's say the value of the dollar gets cut in half. Therefore your stock
doubles in value, even though no actual wealth was gained. When you sell that to get your value back,
that half that you increased to that 100% increase, which was really just keeping up with inflation,
is taxed as if it's profit. Right. Yeah, that's right. I agree. That's a good policy. Yeah,
thank you. Let's get that in Project 2025. Let's go, baby. We have, we had, Paul Danz, I think his name was, for Project 2025, and he brought us a bag and a mug.
And so they're at our studio sitting around.
So I'm just excited for when the liberals come.
And only a couple have, and it's just like the prominently displayed.
Did they give you, though, the special Project 2025 cage that they're going to lock all the liberals in?
It's not a cage, it's an Iron Maiden. The Iron Maiden guillotine. project 2025 cage that they're going to lock all the liberals in well the truck made the iron
there were three iron maidens but the truck couldn't get into the driveway so we just
unfortunately that's fair yeah um i i love the project 2025 uh paranoid delusional state because
actually i i looked through project 2025 and it's a lot of it doesn't go that far no and i was like
like some of these things are like we need reform.
I can't remember exactly what it was, but like reforms in the Department of Education.
I was like, we want to get rid of that one.
Exactly.
It's like reforms in this department.
And I'm like, we want to get rid of those, too.
Well, I think their income tax restructuring or readjustment for the brackets is a very reasonable policy.
If you've actually looked at it, it would cut taxes for people making, $47,000 and $168,000 per year, which is a huge subsection of the middle class and even
some wealthier people. Then above $168K, some people's taxes actually go up a little bit.
But the point is what it does is it creates a 15% and a 30% tax bracket. And anyone making
less than $168K per year pays pays 15 any income you have above that gets
taxed at 30 that would cut taxes for a lot of the middle class it's more reasonable than a flat
taxes because right now we can't afford that just because if we want to keep revenue because flat
tax would raise taxes on the lower class or a lot so project 2025 that's a very reasonable no no no
it's terrible it's terrible i completely disagree I'm in favor of a progressive tax.
Of course. Where we only tax progressives.
That's good. The one
area I thought Project 2025 went
too far was deporting all the
lesbians to Bolivia, which is on page
52. That was too much.
It says to lesbos. They want to send them to lesbos.
To the Greek island.
You do know that's where the word comes from.
And I've been there, and it is...
How was it?
Flannels everywhere.
Migrants.
Subaru's.
It's all you can drive.
Refugee camps.
Paranoia.
Crime.
And I walked to the shore and watched, like, refugees.
I think they're economic migrants.
Literally swim on a shore and walk up and walk past me.
And you just saw the ships
importing flannel
and Subarus
and jean jackets
from China.
It's rich
because conservatives
are laying out
their Project 2025.
This is exactly
what they were trying to do.
But as opposed to
the Kamala Harris campaign
where it's like,
we really don't have
any idea
of what you're trying to do.
They didn't have a platform
on their website
for months.
Hold on.
Brat Coconut Tree.
Excuse me?
Coconut, coconut, coconut, coconut.
I think I can finally dance along to that song now.
Isn't it crazy that Brat Summer didn't actually take with working class voters?
Yeah, losing the Rust Belt is so brat.
So brat.
So brat.
So brat.
Yeah, you know, the whole brat thing just seemed so contrived.
I think that was the issue with basically your whole campaign.
Everything was, you know, I love Doritos. I'm full of joy.
Like if people who tell you several times a day that they're really filled with joy, I think 100 percent of the time you can count on not very joyful.
Do you think Joe Biden would have fared better? Yes.
And I don't think he would have won, but I think he would
have fared better. At least one of the rest of the states.
Yes, yeah, yeah. Of course, he's
Joe Biden, look. He's from Scranton, too.
He's from Scranton, he tells us
constantly. But Joe
Biden, whatever you want to say about him,
guy's a pretty good politician. The guy got elected to
the Senate before it was constitutionally
eligible. Only guy to beat Trump.
Only guy to, yeah, some say, yeah. And so yeah. No, he, you know, the guy is pretty impressive. He's been in national politics
for over half a century. So you're a Democrat strategist. You think, I know what we'll do.
We'll boot this guy out because he's a little slower. By the way, Joe Biden, I say this in
charity to him, was never the brightest bulb in the pack. So he was always good at glad handing
and simpering.
And you think, OK, we're going to replace that guy with a woman who no one has ever
expressed any affection for.
How's that going to turn out?
Who in the primary was at most single digits when she ran in 2020?
So I don't normally play longer YouTube videos, but someone sent me this.
Shout out to Tommy.
And this is the video where David Pakman is talking about the collapse of the left. seven minutes long. I don't know if I'll play the whole thing. I've not heard what
he has to say, but we're going to play a little bit because I'd like to get an unfiltered view
of what leftists liberals think is currently happening after Trump's victory. I'm going to
tell you something that is terrifying me. It's that mustache. I always try to come here and put
a positive face on everything. But there is something going on that is terrifying me when I woke up
this morning we had lost 5,000 YouTube subscribers compared to where we were
last night now the first thing I thought was is is this a glitch? We've been on YouTube for 15 years or something like
that. And subscribers always just go up. They, they, they just never go down. They go up.
Is something wrong with my channel? Is someone attacking my channel? What's
something is wrong with your channel? It's the misinformation. That means the content. Yeah. So I started texting.
Oh, man. No way.
And I texted Tyler Cohen and Brian Cohen and Brian Tyler.
All of them.
I texted all of them.
I texted Jesse Dollimore.
I texted Luke Beasley and Farron Cousins and Sam Seder.
And every single one of our channels since last night
is hemorrhaging
subscribers. Wow!
Great. Say screw it up, help!
Why would you admit that?
Can you pause this for two seconds?
Look at this tiny little...
I just want to mention, and keep that chart up, because it'll help me make my point.
This is the scumbag who, after
Christian children were murdered
by a trans shooter,
was joking about it on Twitter, saying, oh, I guess their prayers didn't work.
That was the attitude he had about little Christian kids getting killed.
And then he loses 5,000 subscribers, and look how somber he is.
Oh, this is horrible. I try to put a positive spin on things, but this is just too much for my little heart to bear.
I think it's fake.
I don't think the left is real.
I sincerely believe this, and I'll tell you why. When Elon Musk announced that he was going to purchase Twitter,
what did we see? Overnight, somehow, channels that were associated with the right saw massive
gains in follower count and on the left started bleeding subscribers like crazy.
There was no legitimate explanation for the massive shift other than they had their thumb on the scales.
And once they found out they were facing an internal review or an external review, they took the thumb off.
Same thing happened again when Elon formally took over.
Once again, prominent personalities like these people are losing tons of followers.
My theory was that social media companies know. I forgot what it's called.
It's an internet law
that any sufficiently unmoderated form
will become right wing.
I don't know if it's 4chan's law
or something like this.
And so I believe that what happens is
these big social media companies
are like, hey, look.
Look at X.
It shifts to the right.
Look at YouTube.
We have to go in there
and force it to be middle of the road, which basically means we're going to ban conservatives and prop up liberals.
Yep. So Dave, what is David Pakman actually seeing? I believe it's probably fake accounts.
Now that the now that the election is over, the fake accounts that were being used to prop up his channels to make it look like there was support for the left are no longer being funded properly and they're shutting down.
I don't know that that's
true. I'm just saying it like this. During the election, the left wants to make liberalism and
leftism and these politicians look prominent and they use bots to prop accounts up. Once the money
is gone because they're massively in debt and they've lost, the followers are gone.
I noticed that in the height of the Republican primary even,
and then I especially saw it up through the general, just on X even. I'd see all, you know,
you get flooded with all these really nasty comments. And there's always some nasty comments,
but it really spikes. And then I'll tell you, after election night, my nasty comments on X,
and by the way, I have been kind of mean on X. I've actually increased the vitriol.
But the nasty comments from the left, supposedly, more or less disappeared, probably dropped 80%.
I have said some of the most horrible things imaginable on X.
I've mostly just retweeted predictions that I bookmarked from left-wing people.
That's great.
Let's hear from David a little bit more.
As you can see, subscribers just go up, up, up, up and they are down.
It is not just YouTube subscribers. We are seeing record cancellations of paid membership. Wow. Record cancellations. Dave, you should pray about it. You should try praying show running. Now, for a moment, I thought
if it's just YouTube, maybe YouTube is purging people who are inactive subscribers. And once
a year, usually YouTube does this and you see a little decline and then numbers go back up.
They're not doing it. They're not doing it. And if that were the case, we wouldn't be seeing
paid membership cancellations on the Web site.
So now I understand what is going on. It's terrifying, but it is happening.
A lot of people are checking out. No, I still think it's bots.
I think that his memberships may have been largely fake. And I'm not trying to be a dick and dig at David Pakman.
I genuinely think that bots go after everybody. I believe that everybody has
a degree of bots attacking their accounts for some reason or another. Yeah, for sure.
I don't think there's a large amount. Paid memberships is interesting. That's less likely
to be fake. So I do think there's probably a lot of people checking out. I believe that component
is that David has been misinforming people and they realized it last night when they said,
how am I in the minority?
I thought we were going to have the popular vote at least even if Trump won.
They realized I'm on the wrong side of history.
And these people are genuinely terrified of being on the wrong side of history.
That's why the activists chant on the streets to police officers and small businesses.
You're on the wrong side of history. So what do you think a liberal who's scared of that is thinking when they wake up and said, David Pakman is the wrong
side of history and he led me astray? I think that it's just a matter of people are kind of
realizing that men can't become women. And the left has been leading people astray. The left
doesn't have policies that people like.
But you know what really hit him, too? I mean, I agree with that. And I think that was so glaring to a lot of people. But even beyond that, Trump won the popular vote, which doesn't matter
legally, but it matters because it took away the one big talking point that they had. Well,
this is a you know, the real democracy was no, actually, most people voted for Trump.
And then the fact that black men disproportionately voted for Trump and Hispanics disproportionately
voted for Trump and, and even women started moving because of that.
What are they supposed to conclude?
There's no good oppressor narrative anymore on any front.
So I think in as much as they are capable of introspection, I think they had to come
to the conclusion, yikes, maybe I've been looking at this a little bit wrong.
I am interested to hear what he has to say further.
I heard anecdotally from a couple dozen people who said, you know, David, I just can't do
it anymore.
I just can't do it.
I'm checking out.
I'm out.
And the reason that this is terrifying, not only because it puts everybody in left
wing media's livelihoods at stake and at risk, it terrifies me because our instinct is the
opposite of what the right does and we will get crushed if this is the way we respond
to a defeat.
Speaker 1 and Speaker 2 hear, hear. That's a good point.
The right wants us not to exist.
The right wants to decimate independent progressive media.
No, they don't.
And so when I lose 5,000 followers.
Support free speech.
Can I just point out, this guy's got 2.64 million followers and he lost 5,000 and he's
having a breakdown over it.
Yeah.
I have told you guys this.
You watch the show.
What did I say?
Whenever you see a YouTuber make a video where they're like, oh, woe is me. I have told you guys this. You watch the show. What did I say? Whenever you
see a YouTube or make a video where they're like, oh, woe is me. I'm so miserable. You can usually
look at their numbers and see like they lost subscribers or viewers or something. You know,
I agree. And I think you can cry into here. Should we send it over? I bring a fire. It's
embarrassing. And everybody's losing thousands of subscribers. Understand that when the right loses, they get organized, they fund, and they create
insanely effective organizations like Turning Point USA.
Here we go.
Investing in the Daily Wire and building out this huge network of right wing ideas and
influencers.
This guy's making a lot of sense.
He's feeling burnt out
i'll subscribe i encourage you take a break until the inauguration it's months okay mental health
break do it but when we start canceling the subscriptions but don't do it anyway
subscription spiral right now because when people start unsubscribing on
YouTube, YouTube thinks, oh, we probably shouldn't recommend this content because
it's generating a lot of unsubscribes. So then the content doesn't get recommended.
Yeah. And then the message doesn't get out. And the next election, they win by even more.
Yes. Yes, that's right. There's one thing you said that's not true. And a lot of instinct. But if we cede ground to them, they crush us everywhere. Now we're up
against a MAGA Supreme Court potentially till 2050. We'll talk about that later. We're up against
the completely uninhibited Trump. I actually have an entire chapter in my forthcoming book,
The Echo Machine, about exactly this.
It's actually it's not it's the introduction in the introduction.
I explain how it's disgusting to me.
It's disgusting. Disgusting. Oh, he's selling that when you engage in politics.
He's got he's losing his right. You've got to convince people climate change is even happening.
You can't just find solutions because half the country doesn't even accept the science of vaccines. You have to. I just want to mention when the people
who are claiming climate change is happening by beachfront properties that are supposed to be
underwater in 20 to 30 years, it's really hard to trust them. It's rich of him to fearmonger about
Daily Wire and Turning Point USA as though they have more influence than the media dominated by the leftists.
Yeah. MSNBC, the Young Turks. It's well, I'll tell you, I'll tell you what.
The Daily Beast, I go on all day.
Also make the point in the book that if you actually care about the world for ourselves, children, grandchildren, other people, families, friends, people we care about.
When you disengage because they've gotten so extreme, you cede ground to them and you say,
do whatever you want.
I'm disengaging, do whatever you want.
And we really can't do that, okay?
So my request to you today is,
give me more money.
Please resubscribe to the YouTube channel.
You got it.
Oh, man.
All of a sudden, in 12, 14 14 hours the entire progressive media ecosystem is under a threat
i have never seen before we've never seen anything i love how the threat is accountability
i love how his his rationale is you only subscribed because you are tired not because
you dislike me yes yeah let me tell you that I learned as a kid, the opposite of love is not hate. It's indifference. Yeah. And what, what you,
what you learn is David, if people don't love you and they're indifferent, they don't unsubscribe.
They just leave and they say nothing. But if people are unsubscribing, it sounds more like
they hate you. Well, I don't even necessarily know that we have to go that far. The reality is he's losing subscribers right now.
But part of what I find particularly funny about that is, listen, in 2020, the Republicans lost the election.
I felt no need to tell my subscribers to take a mental health break from my channel.
Yeah.
I never felt the need to tell my subscribers, I know you guys need a break from me right now after all of this. I first see a T.Y.T. and a Kasparian type plight here, transformation for Pac-Man in a
decade or so. Let's see what else we got. I think they're going to be in shambles.
This is the moment where we have to support independent progressive media. If it's not my
show, that's fine. OK, there's plenty of shows you can support. Consider getting a membership.
Consider it. We have a code. The new coupon code is not
again. All one word. No, but that's to his channel. What about the other? Yeah, I want to I want to
stress. I guess those aren't I'm pretty sure. I don't know if those videos from Trump are new,
actually, but but yeah, he's got a bunch of those on his website. Everyone keeps reposting them as
if they're new, but we'll check. I don't blame Pac-Man at all for doing any kind of become a member, subscribe to my channel, buy my book.
I respect all of that.
I don't respect him saying, heavens to Betsy, I'm losing followers.
This is the apocalypse.
He could have just said, I know, he didn't even say anything.
He could have saw the numbers.
He could have made a video being like, now's the time for us to redouble our efforts.
But you know why he's saying it's the apocalypse?
This gets to something you just said, which is the lie was, if you don't subscribe to
the David Pakman channel, the message of the left won't get out.
It's ridiculous because the left controls all of the institutions and the whole media.
However, beyond David Pakman, we were talking the other night about how the New York Times
and the Washington Post obviously are coordinating to point out that all of us are eating their lunch for the first time probably ever.
We have more influence than the establishment media on an election.
That's why The Washington Post called it the podcast election.
So I do think part of the freak out here is one.
I don't know.
Maybe he's got car payments he can't afford.
But the other part of the freak out is, oh, wow, maybe we can't count on a monopoly
in the media. Maybe maybe the right actually broke through and maybe the right's message is a lot more
popular and manifestly more truthful. Oh, this actually could be the collapse of the whole house
of cards. What strikes me is the complete lack of reflection on anything about why so many people
may have decided to vote for Trump. There's no sense of
curiosity from him to talk about the issues that resonated with so many Americans. And they're so
out of touch. He's part of the left that is just completely out of touch with the average normal
American. I think that the fact that they're freaking out about this is probably. OK okay it's probably indicative of the fact that the the or it's probably related to the
fact that there was such a sweep right so he sees yeah tuesday happened trump's back which they
thought couldn't happen they didn't believe it for a second um so much so that they actually
ran kamala harris right and tried tried to shove that down the American people's throat.
Then there was also the Senate and looks like the House and all of the right leaning, you know, all the people that moved so far right.
And now he sees that there's also a massive exodus or what seems to him like a massive exodus from all of these left-wing accounts maybe he
actually does have a point and he has something to be afraid of because maybe the american people
have said you know what we tried this for the past 12 for the past 12 of the past 16 years
have been democrats in control and running the show and Democrat policies. And we have ended up poorer.
We have ended up with wars, two wars, even though Barack Obama was supposed to come in
and it was supposed to be the guy of peace.
He won the Nobel Peace Prize right away.
And he might have even got it before he actually got into office.
But he definitely got it very, very early, like right when he got into office.
He got it for just being not George Bush.
Right.
And we had no significant change.
What happened was all of the people that historically had been considered friends of the Republicans
became friends of the Democrats.
The Democrats ran everything.
And there was nothing that was better about today than there was then in 1999. Yeah. Yeah. And also,
you know, don't forget with independent left wing media, they have tried this before. They tried to
air America to be their Rush Limbaugh. And to get back to that article we're reading at the top,
it completely flopped. It was a total failure. So there is left wing media because the left took
over the established institutions, the New York Times, the Washington Post, the news networks that have federal licenses.
But in terms of when you actually have a free market
and you don't have the left monopolizing control,
even on the platforms which give priority and advantage to the left
and punish us for saying normal things,
when you start to crack that a little bit and you actually create a market,
maybe there just isn't much of a market for the David Pakman show.
So I want to just shout this out. It looks like Carrie Lake might actually win.
Wow. Really?
Now, hold on. Don't get your hopium up. Right now she's down 43,000. I got this tweet from
Charlie Kirk. He says Maricopa has 500,000 votes outstanding but the latest drop was
57% for Carrie.
If the next drop that comes in is
51, is at least
51 for Carrie Lake, she wins.
With 500,000
votes remaining, he says.
AZ has 850,000
votes outstanding statewide.
If those votes that come in break,
at least 51% for Carrie Lake,
she wins. So that gives us 53 senators. 53. And then you have with Sam Brown,
there are people saying they want to see a lawsuit over the late ballots to challenge them.
I certainly would like to see that. But then you have the question about late ballots for AZ.
So it may just split and say, well, look, you get Carrie Lake or you get-
Well, I don't know what the state laws are, Arizona to Nevada. The one thing I know about
Nevada, though, is that Harry Reid of, well, I would say blessed memory. Let's hope blessed
memory. Harry Reid had built a machine that is quite enduring. So I frankly, there's corruption
in a lot of different places. I'm skeptical about Nevada because that guy had built a pretty corrupt machine.
I'd like a lawsuit. I really like Sam Brown. And I think he'd be a great senator.
Yeah. So that's the that's the latest. Should we just watch what the rest of what he has to say?
The dread that we are all feeling. Oh, yeah. Not us. Consider getting a membership.
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We'll take a break and get to some other things. There has never been a movement.
Okay. I just want to say, I want to give a massive shout out to this guy. He is a salesman, you know?
Yeah.
He didn't make this video because he's terrified.
He said he woke up one day and they're like, oh, hey, Dave, we're down 5K subs.
And he goes, really?
I'm gonna make a video where I act like it's the apocalypse to rally paid memberships and
subscribers and sell my book.
Well, speaking of salesman, I just got to say, Michael, the cigar was fantastic.
Stop it.
No, it was really very good.
Thank you.
Wouldn't it be great if you sold more cigars tonight
than he gets memberships for the show?
I actually feel confident that I will do that.
But the other difference, first of all, let's not forget,
TimCast is what made my book, which did accurately
explain things unlike David Pakman's.
It did make my book speechless.
It really helped it get to number one nationally.
But the difference here is David Pakman
is trying to sell you some book that's
going to whine and complain and probably give you false, false wisdom.
However, my cigars may.
They're not trying to shove any message on you....victories.
Listen, I've kept my show on the air
while skirting around all sorts of rules.
And it's my understanding that as long as you don't send people
to any websites or anything, I think you're good.
Now, David Pakman could sell whatever cocaine or whatever kind of crazy drugs that he's on that give him his crazy ideas.
But I think everyone's okay to celebrate.
I have to apologize to everybody.
I was left speechless.
Wow.
That was good.
Oh, man.
Just like your book.
And everyone is getting us in the super chats.
But, yeah.
You know, it's funny he's saying this, too, because the last time Trump was elected president,
left-wing media actually, it was the most lucrative time to be involved in left-wing media.
And they made more money than they ever did based off a fear mongering off of Donald Trump.
So while he's crying crocodiles here now, I'm sure the Trump administration,
the next four years of Trump,
will actually be very lucrative for him
and many people on the left, unfortunately.
Well, how about we go to Super Chat?
So if you haven't already,
would you kindly smash that like button,
subscribe to this channel,
share the show with everyone you know,
become a member at timcast.com.
We have a Discord server.
David Backman, I respect him calling for memberships.
He's trying to build up his business.
He wants to make content for you. He was very wrong. I think he's very wrong on a lot of things, but
I can respect that we're all in this game where, you know, I don't really trust the guy, but
competition in politics is important. Well, on our side, we have a Discord server with tens of
thousands of people, and you can be a member and meet new people and get involved in the movement.
A lot of people are
working on new projects we have pre-shows after shows and you know every day the members of the
discord say please shout it out so we can get more people to come hang out because they want to be
your friend and we also have members members only shows we're not doing it this week the only reason
i can speak right now is i took ibuprofen to reduce the swelling in my throat because i'm
losing my voice nine hour streams and continual know, four or five hours of reporting will do that.
In addition to not sleeping very much and probably not drinking enough water.
But we'll keep the show going for you. Not drinking nearly enough booze either.
None for me. Zero booze. But tomorrow's going to be great. We have General Flynn.
He's going to be on the Culture War podcast at youtube.com slash Timcast.
And I'm very much looking forward to asking him about Trump's revenge.
And maybe his.
But we'll see.
We'll grab some super chats.
We've got, I'm not your buddy guy.
America is suffering from a massive mental health crisis.
Make asylums great again.
Well, wasn't it, wasn't Reagan who got rid of him?
Reagan was part of it. He gets a lot of the blame for it. At the time, though, you know,
they got rid of him because there were all these psych drugs that made people think they didn't
need to be in the asylum. Yeah. However, turns out when you let a bunch of people out and then
you don't force them to take their psych meds, they stop taking them and they go crazy and wind
up homeless. They take the psych meds until they feel better. They feel better. They think I'm
cured. They stop taking the psych meds and they go crazy. Yeah. I hope Trump makes
New York great again because we are greatly dealing with the scourge of homelessness and
mental illness in our city. Yes. But a lot. He would be making New York great again, again,
because it was great. It found a chaos. He came comes in the 80s. He starts building up these
luxury towers. He, along with many others, were part of this reformation
and erection and crime that made the city better.
And now it desperately needs help again.
Yep.
You turned MSG into MAGA Square Garden once again.
MAGA Square.
Also, I just want to point out
one of the beautiful things about this election
was that New York came closer to going to Trump
than Florida did to going for Harris.
There were Democrats saying that Florida was in play.
Kamala got beat.
Kyle Kalinske said it.
Yeah.
That's why they're unsubscribing to idiots.
They're like, you told me Iowa was going to go for Democrats.
And then they were like, Trump won every swing state.
Look, I've been to all these protests.
The leftists and the liberals march and they go, you're on the wrong side of history.
The whole world is watching.
The whole world is watching.
And I'm like, guess what?
The majority of this country thinks you are on the wrong side of history.
This is what terrifies them.
Understand, we know about liberal and leftist projection.
Oh, no, Trump's going to start rounding up his political opponents.
They're saying that because they're doing it.
And now they're worried it'll happen to them.
When they chant, you're on the wrong side of history,
they're telling you their greatest fear. The reason why so many liberals, I shouldn't say
liberals, but regular people don't speak up. They stand back and they keep their mouths shut and let
all the bad stuff happen is because they're worried that they're going to be in the minority.
Well, guess what? That's why I've been screeching for the past couple of weeks. The popular vote
is the most important thing we get. Well, it's not the most important. Obviously, Trump having
power is. But we need the popular vote because it terrifies the weak-willed liberals. They are
now the wrong side of history. That's why I've been tweeting it to everyone. Harry Sisson,
Dean Withers, whatever they say, I just say you're on the wrong side.
By the way, this was a big part of why Trump did that MSG rally. It's the only
Trump rally that I've been able to make it to. And I made a specific point to go because I thought it was so bold, so brazen.
And I thought, why is he campaigning in New York? First of all, it was an amazing show,
but it was pretty clear then this guy was making a play not only to win in the electoral college,
he was making a play to win the popular vote. And it worked.
It worked. And that popular vote helps give him a mandate and credibility to move forward with his agenda here.
Amen.
Amen.
It's a beautiful thing.
It's a beautiful thing.
I just love that they don't have that complaint this time.
I wouldn't have cared if they did.
Yeah.
Right?
Because every single time a Republican wins the presidential election and they don't get the popular vote, the left goes, yeah, he won at chess, but what about checkers?
That's not the game we're playing right now. and they don't get the popular vote, the left goes, yeah, he won at chess, but what about checkers?
That's not the game we're playing right now.
Also, if they played the popular vote game,
then Trump would just campaign in California and New York and he'd win the popular vote by a lot,
which he didn't.
Well, this is a BS thing people use
to reject him as president too when he won last time.
And I'm just glad they don't have that BS
to hold their hat on this time as well.
Wyatt Caldenberg says,
Governor Shapiro has been cracking down on the Amish.
Normally they don't vote.
A gay man named Scott met with them and got many to vote to stop their persecution.
This could make a great American movie.
That could.
You know, there's a lot here that's kind of, you know, improbable.
If you ask someone 20 years ago, like, hey, will the host of The Apprentice go on the show of the host of Fear Factor and have that be a major political event?
And then will the host of The Apprentice,
the billionaire playboy,
bring peace to the Middle East?
All of those things happen.
That's great.
My pitch for Seamus is a cartoon
where it's a guy on the side of the road,
like all haggard and homeless, shaking.
And it's the year 2003.
And he's like, or it's like 2009.
The guy from the reality TV show,
the most popular on NBC,
is going to go on the other reality TV shows.
Guys, the big show.
It's the biggest show in the world.
The biggest show everybody's watching. And he's going to say on the other reality TV shows. Guys, the big show, it's the biggest show in the world, the biggest show everybody's watching,
and he's going to say, you should be the president, and then he
wins the presidency, and they're going to be like, calm down,
sir. Yeah, take those meds.
We did a cartoon a few months ago about
a time traveler, and he goes back to the year 2008,
he's like, J.K. Rowling is leading
a genocide! And everyone's like, is the children's
author? It's just a liberal
saying, liberal talking points from today
to people in 2008, and they're like, guys, he says he's from the future, right, this guy's a liberal saying, like liberal talking points from today to people in 2008.
And they're like, this guy, he says he's from the future.
Right.
Like, this guy's a lunatic.
He's like, you're giving sex changes to children.
They're like, Donald Trump is going to be president.
Oh, geez.
All right.
Seek out voices with the greater Idaho movement gaining more traction.
I would like to propose a greater West Virginia movement involving Western Virginia.
You wouldn't even have to change the state names.
Western Maryland has already written letters asking West Virginia to annex them.
A couple years ago.
To liberate them.
Oh, dude.
The Western panhandle of Maryland is MAGA country.
MAGA country.
Sorry, I pronounced it wrong.
You go to these bars and these restaurants.
We drove a couple hours in the Western panhandle.
Went to a bar and they had the picture
of Donald Trump riding
the Velociraptor with machine guns.
And I'm like,
this is a blue state.
This is why the Republicans
need Dick Cheney back
is because we need Cheney
to send the F-16s into Maryland
to liberate the West Maryland
people from oppression.
Well, the F-16s can't do it.
You need ground troops.
So we're going to need
to mobilize the West Virginia.
They don't actually have the state army.
No, it'll be, they'll welcome us as liberators.
They will.
They will.
They truly will.
Well, having, owning property in Maryland, there's a big sign that's like, it's like 20 feet.
And it says, swamp this 40 miles that way.
And the guy, he's one of our neighbors he lives near
he's got these huge signs saying trump and uh you know that was our old studio by the way in maryland
but yeah it is definitely mega country all right let's go an orange sea lion says the election has
been wild thank you trump i wish you would have left these leftist speech lefty speechless just
like the number one bestseller by Michael Knowles.
You know, the Tim cast listeners and specifically the super chatters are the most wonderfully obsessively one minded people in the world.
And I am so, so grateful for.
Thank you.
Well, we had it when we had Clavin on the other day talking about his book.
And I was like, you need to turn your book into a meme that everyone wants to be a part of because we keep we still get super chats periodically that sell your book.
My book from two years ago, three years ago, three years ago.
And sometimes people will do it because it's a it's a throwback joke.
And then I start reading the super chat and halfway through it turns into an advertisement for your book.
This is the other great spikes.
What happened? The other great return.
It's the opposite of what pacman sees the other great return for trump is the return of the glorious
beautiful memes they're back the crystals mean what is this the crystals mean yeah trump there's
images of trump trapping liberals and crystals yeah i listen that one's a little deep for me i
got to go back through my renee gerard to totally understand that. I don't my Mises. I don't. So I don't. I've seen a bunch of it. Seamus made the joke on his video the other day where it's it's it's I think it's his best video. And I'm in some of them. I should praise the ones I'm in. But in this one, it's the guy working out with Peanut the squirrel and then SWAT cops come in and a guy with a machine gun fires. And then Trump uses telekinesis to stop the bullet and save peanuts life. And then it turns out the cop is Kamala
Harris. And so she's like, I was just following orders. And he goes, then I order you into the
crystals. And then she transports into a crystal screaming. So apparently someone posted this
image where they were like, you know, liberals spending 10,000 years in the crystals might do
them good or something like this. And it was a picture of like a Wojack character in a crystal screaming. So then
everyone started making jokes about Trump. When he wins, he's going to transport liberals into
crystals to imprison them for 10,000 years. And that is in Project 2025.
Did you guys see at the Kamala concession speech that you want to tell me somebody doesn't believe
in God? Explain this to me at the Kamala concession speech, right as they're setting up the stage.
A cute little squirrel bears a striking resemblance to peanut.
Truly a blessed memory.
You're telling me that was just by accident.
Come on.
So people people are pointing out as an Elder Scroll meme.
I don't believe that is correct.
So I've played Elder Scrolls.
When you defeat someone in Elder Scrolls,
you can trap their soul in a soul gem
and then use it for crafting things like this
or use it for whatever.
That's not the same as imprisoning someone
in crystals for 10,000 years.
But people started to associate Elder Scrolls with the meme.
Either way, it's hilarious to see these AI-generated photos
where Trump is hovering over crystals, and there's
people trapped inside of them. It's great.
The memes are great. And I want
to stress this to you. Peanut
was assassinated. He was assassinated.
It was a targeted... He was.
He was famous. He was a public figure.
My conspiracy theory is he's still alive.
And they're laughing at us. That's why they had him run across
the stage, hiding in Tora Bora.
What is an assassination,
but a politically motivated killing of a prominent figure?
Yeah.
So powerful business leaders can be assassinated.
Peanut the squirrel had 2 million followers.
And I believe, this is my opinion,
it's a conspiracy theory.
The reason the state came and took Fred and Peanut
was because they were concerned
that a high profile account with millions of followers
would spawn copycats.
People would be like, I can get followers, too, if I get a squirrel.
And then you have the potential for actual rabies, because people will go for wild squirrels.
And even though Peanut was raised in a home indoor and totally fine,
their attitude was probably, look, if you seize the squirrel, he's going to sue you and get it back.
You have to kill it.
And so they killed Peanut to prevent a movement of people wanting squirrels as pets. If you seize the squirrel, he's going to sue you and get it back. You have to kill it.
And so they killed Peanut to prevent a movement of people wanting squirrels.
Better that one squirrel should die for the community.
This is a pharisaical line of thinking from New York State.
But it's a fair point.
Also, you mentioned Fred.
This reminds me of C.S. Lewis dying the same day as John F. Kennedy.
Nobody really talks about Fred. okay? Was Fred not worth?
He was the raccoon. You don't even know.
Nobody knows. Or Mother Teresa
and Princess Diana dying the same week.
Mother Teresa and Princess Diana.
They claimed that Fred and Peanut
bit somebody, and so they had to do
a brain necropsy for, or whatever it's called, for
rabies. And I'm like, oh, how convenient.
The two animals you were seizing just happened
to bite you. Also, if I were Peanut, I'd bite those guys too. What are they doing in my house? I mean,
that is plausible, right? A bunch of strange guys come in and try grabbing the squirrel and it's
going to bite them. Yeah. And then, but I think it was intentional. I think when you look at social
media and all of these histrionic women are posting videos of themselves crying, they're
doing it because it's a social media trend. And the state said, look, just like people all do the same dance. Remember the coconut dance that the women were doing for Kamala?
They will start buying squirrels. That didn't work. That's crazy. Well, that is what a meme is. That
is like literally what mimesis is, is you just start imitating the behaviors and desires of
people. So I actually think you're totally right about that. Whether New York state needed to
devote resources while homeless people are like terrorizing women on the subway maybe they could have focused more on that than on the scourge of
squirrel tiktoks yeah all right we got cory thomas says ruben uh how do you pronounce it galego galego
galego has more votes against carrie lake than harris on trump yep wow and everyone's yeah that
and and it's these last minute late votes that are coming in. It's so weird.
But I mean, why would they not want Harris to win in that regard if they're going to
cheat for Gallego? Well, the Trump campaign was pushing the idea, I think rightly,
that they needed the margin to be too big to rig. There are people who are just going to vote top
of the ballot. They didn't even need Arizona. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. That could be why
they didn't want to create extra liability. So their focus is just maybe they were thinking we're not going with Biden or Harris. So
let's focus on as much as we can in the Senate and the House. Yeah. Either way, they're losing
all of it. There's a lot going on in Arizona. I feel like there's a lot split of a lot of split
ticketers in Arizona. This was a state that elected John McCain wasn't a senator for a very
long time. So, yeah, it is. It is a legitimately purpose. Yeah. And also Trump, Trump leading the realignment of the GOP does mean there
are going to be people who vote for Trump top of the ticket who are really not Republicans
down ballot. I mean, I'm not saying there aren't shenanigans there very well might be,
but it's not unreasonable to think people might've done that. All right. This one is,
uh, uh, I'm going to read to intentionally get
Seamus angry. Oh, no. Bora says, Michael and Seamus, my home state of Missouri just passed
an extreme pro-abortion amendment. What can I do at a local level to fight back? Crap.
It's a great question. I mean, pray, spread the message, tell people what abortion is
and try to counsel women out of having them. My friend, Father Benedict Keeley, makes a good
point. He does a lot of work with persecuted Christians in the Middle East. And when you say pray, Seamus,
people think of prayer as a last resort, like the atheist and the foxhole who starts praying,
but prayer is a first resort. Yeah. I mean that totally without any cuteness or whatsoever. You
know, if you believe that God exists, which I think is demonstrable and inescapable and can
be known with certainty from nature through reason. I agree. Yes. I mean, I think, is demonstrable and inescapable and can be known with certainty from nature through reason.
I agree.
Yes. I mean, I think it's, you know, it's good to hear that because today it's kind of...
Everything came from nothing for no reason.
Yeah, of course. I'm sorry. I forgot about that convincing theory.
But, you know, if you really believe that, as I do, that God is real and omnipotent and omnipotent and all that,
then it is simply rational that your first course ought
to be prayer. And then don't forget, prayer ought to impel you to good works. Right. But let's take
a little bit to entertain this as it's late in the week. We talk a great deal about politics.
And I say this with, call me stupid, call me whatever you want. Most of the conversations
I have with people who are atheists, they can't get over the idea that in their mind, they think when you say God, there's a guy in a
white robe flying around like Superman. And when I try to explain things like, okay, let's, let's,
let's, before we even get to the concept of God, let's talk about the fourth dimension and
Tesseracts. The human mind cannot comprehend what a Tesseract looks like. Yet we know mathematically
it exists. They're like, nope, flying guy in the sky. And I was like, you need to get beyond the idea that God himself is
as limited as a human is. But I understand why they're atheists if that's where their mind is
stuck. They're like, that's not possible. And in fairness to them, they are actually caught up in
what is called a scandal to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles. They're caught
up in the scandal of the incarnation, the fact that God also is a man. They're caught up in the
central mystery of the faith, which is the Trinity. And they're trying to make sense of it, which
there was a popular... Real quick, put it together. I'm saying even outside of Christianity,
the concept of God is... This is actually fascinating. It's a great point.
Most of the people I meet who are atheists
do have a Christian view of God.
Yes, of course.
It's a Christian civilization.
So that's why they're coming to this.
And I happen to believe that is correct, you know?
And so I understand that it is a stumbling block to some
and it's foolishness to others,
but it's also true.
And it tells you so much more about your human nature because you could even start to argue with atheists from the
perspective of human nature like for instance how do we know anything how do we know that things are
true how do we reason how do we have intellect you know it if the world is just like stuff and
we're all just meat puppets then a meaningful speech is not possible. So, you know, they behave every day, every minute of every day, as if God exists.
They just can't get themselves to admit it, I suppose.
They work off the values.
We'd be speechless.
That's such a great point, Seamus.
And a great book.
Yeah.
I think they work on values that are downstream from religion while rejecting the religion at its base and its core.
So a lot of their ideals, they value things like the ideals of the Ten Commandments while not buying into the religion at its at its base and its core so a lot of their ideals they value things like the ideals of the ten commandments while not buying into the religion
that right but you know why has anyone here ever been or considered themselves an atheist or or
i was there was okay there was a time in in my life uh where i was in such severe doubt that i i
would consider myself an atheist i think probably around the time that I was like 18, 19 years old. Many such cases. Yeah. I mean, that happens, especially to young
men, especially in this day and age. But I think the other thing that we don't talk about a lot,
because it's not as intellectual and philosophical. I think a lot of the reason these guys insist on
saying they're atheists is just because they sin a lot and really enjoy sinning and don't want to
feel bad about it. You know, true. Just sin darkens the intellect.
That's kind of where I was, too.
I mean, at that age, there are so many, like, complex philosophical arguments that sound
robust and intellectual that people have tried to make against God.
But the most convincing one to me was always, like, not sinning is hard.
It's hard and it feels good to sin if you're caught up in vice.
For me, it was just learning about physics.
And I feel
that I've done a lot of videos about it.
I could have a three-hour sit-down
explanation where I would love to sit with a physicist
and talk about how
at minimum, mathematical
probability
suggests the existence of a god.
And then I actually believe observable
science
in every discipline leads us to a conclusion that I would say is beyond probability.
It's it's it's it's nearly one. It's nine point nine and nine percent. And it's and I know right now it's going to be very difficult for a lot of people who are atheists to be like, well, he's not explaining anything.
So I don't believe him. That's fine. I'm not going to go into a three-hour explanation. But if you're trying to start to look into
what I'm talking about, research entropy and negative entropy, read about complex dynamic
systems and the tendencies of matter in life towards the creation of complex systems.
And that ultimately leads you to one conclusion, that complex dynamic systems increase exponentially
beyond our comprehension, which at minimum, from human perspective suggests the existence of a God. If you follow that math to
its conclusion, it's God. No, I think you're right that the logical conclusion of all of these
different fields of study is religiosity. I can't remember who said this, but he said the first sip
of the glass from the natural sciences gets you to atheism, but at the bottom of the glass, God is waiting.
But on top of that, I mean, the very foundation of these fields is also something that's based in a belief in God.
You have to have some kind of supernatural worldview, whether you acknowledge it or not, to believe that the universe is comprehensible to human beings in any way, shape, or form.
Yeah, of course. My buddy Spencer just wrote this great book. I'll plug a book that's not my own.
He just came out with this great book, Light of the Mind, Light of the World,
which makes all of these points, and it does so beautifully. But Ross Douthat, the conservative
who writes for the New York Times, the one guy, in a column that was promoting that book,
he pointed out something that had escaped me, which is that
fashionable atheism that got a lot of us, I think, when we were younger, that fashionable atheism
did not come about as a result of arguments or the development of thinking. Christopher Hitchens,
Richard Dawkins, it came about because of specific historical events. 9-11, for one,
which was exploited. The radicalism of Islam was exploited, or of some
Muslims, was exploited to kill all religion in the public mind. And also the Catholic Church
scandal, which was selectively publicized and overstated, but nevertheless, it was a real thing.
And so because all these things happened in the early 2000s, people just had this emotional,
not rational, but emotional recoiling away from religion. But now that
appears to be going away. Yeah. Well, and also after 9-11, blaming religion as a whole rather
than just explaining very clearly that this was an issue with Islam was a politically correct way
of analyzing the situation. Yeah. Right. Whenever radical Muslim terrorists do anything bad,
it's all religion. That's a problem. Of course, when Christians do something bad, that's a specific doctrinal issue with Christian belief.
Let's read this from Stephen.
He says, I'm 23.
I voted for Trump in 2020.
And again this year, I've been a machinist since 2019, the year I graduated high school.
I love this country.
God bless the USA.
Stephen, thank you for doing your patriotic duty.
And more to the point, we need you.
Young men of good conscience who do
their duties to protect this country. We one day will not be here. And you're only a little bit
only 15 years younger than me. But that means you're going to be here 15 years longer than me
or who knows, maybe a lot longer. And so we need young men and women, especially right now to all the line.
Do you think he used to subscribe to the David Pakman channel?
No, I mean, not him. Not him.
I do think there are a lot of people who used to subscribe to him who subscribe here.
But, you know, I also hear the I don't believe to be true. People like I used to watch Tim
Poole, but now I watch David Pakman. I'm like, that's not true.
I'm like, it's fake. The winds
don't blow in that direction, I'm afraid. I just don't believe it because it's like,
what what is your issue with the news article that I read?
David Pakman had a segment where MSN Meet the Press, I think it's NBC News, Meet the Press,
Chuck Todd was talking to Ted Cruz and they said, you, he said, do you really think Ukraine interfered in the 2016 election
to help Hillary Clinton?
And Ted Cruz goes, it was in the news.
And then you hear a producer laughing in the background.
And then David Pakman goes, he's, I can't believe he believes this.
I can't, Politico reported this.
I bring this article up all the time.
Politico reported that Ukraine interfered.
Paul Manafort went to jail over this. We know it happened. So when Pacman is lying to people like that, and I can prove it's not true. The other thing is, there was one day where we both had very similar thumbnails. Mine was Donald Trump improves in polls. His was Donald Trump sinks to new low. And I was like, did I get something
wrong? One of those has to be correct. Which ones are not to be correct? It was simple.
I use aggregate polling, not single polling. And I said, we want to avoid static. Sometimes
there's outliers. He used a single poll showing high unfavorability. And I said, OK, well,
he's not wrong. It is true that Trump has tanked in this poll.
But if you're a viewer and you're watching his channel and you hear that, you go, wow.
Then you watch mine.
I say, actually, here's all of the polls for the day.
This one was bad, but the rest were good.
You go, oh.
One poll said that Kamala was going to win Iowa in a landslide.
How did that turn out?
Yep.
Wasn't that a guy from Iowa, like a professional pollster?
No, it was Ann Selzer.
Ann Selzer.
Yeah.
Boy, was she wrong.
What did she say? She said that
she thinks what happened was that her poll
rallied people who were
thinking Trump was going to coast a victory.
You know whose prediction wasn't wrong?
Mu Dang.
Correct. Mu Dang is a better predictor than
Alan Lichtman.
What keys does Mu Dang have? Just cakes.
Yes. But I want to say this to everybody listening. I am not mad at Alan Lichtman.
No, I feel bad for him. He's an older guy. His keys are not bad predictors. They've proven
successful. The problem is that he watches CNN and he thinks he's being told the truth.
Yeah. So when they say there's no scandals, there's no military failures. The economy is
good. Trump's not charismatic.
Trump has no charisma.
He says, well, Kamala is going to win then.
And we beg him, please pay attention to reality.
But reality has a right wing bias.
So right.
Yeah.
The model, if you can call the keys a model, the model was not disproven in this election.
His read of the situation was disproven.
Yeah.
But as I am famously quoted as saying
reality has a right-wing bias it does it does yeah colbert all right anyway that was his big thing
do you remember when colbert did that i haven't watched steven colbert probably since 2007 like
10 years ago his his oft-repeated quote was reality has a liberal bias
that's right well that's no longer true for those that didn't know the reference
all right particle ghost says who had the murder of an innocent squirrel as their prediction for
the late october surprise hey look man i really do think that story probably mobilized a couple
voters at least yeah yeah they were like whoa this is like a Democrat government went in and killed somebody's squirrel.
And it's not even just that.
I think part of the reason it resonated with the right so much is it is the perfect encapsulation of how petty bureaucracy just seems out to suck all of the joy out of everything good in life.
Can I tell you something, though?
I look, I was already solid on voting for Trump.
I bought new cushions for my outside chairs last year, and they were very, very expensive.
Outdoor furniture is very expensive. I paid probably like a thousand dollars for a cushion.
I'm serious. I don't know. I don't know what we paid, but it was a crazy. We're getting to squirrel slander, aren't we? Oh, we're. It ain't slander. It we oh we're it ain't slander it is that jack i get this i say finally i've got this
nice cushion that i had to sell a kidney to buy and then days later some nasty little squirrel
wasn't peanut but it was one who looked like him i don't want to cast dispersions on a whole
group of animals yeah he he ripped through my expensive cushion, totally irreparable.
It's hard for me to lose sleep over peanut.
Oh, man. Well, I'll just, I'll say this.
I think that what really happened was
after the they're eating dogs,
they're eating cats comment, Trump
won the dog vote, and Kamala
Harris was very concerned about this, so to try to get dogs
on her side, she assassinated a squirrel.
Yeah. Yep. Their leader.
Two million followers.
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Michael, do you want to shout anything out?
I do, and I'll be very careful in my wording.
I'm just enjoying this wonderful week
with a celebratory Mayflower cigar.
So that's all I'm going to say.
That's just what I'm doing.
You can also watch my show at the Michael Knowles Show,
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There's been some confusion over my account because a certain doppelganger that I have
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But that's not me.
I am Michael J. Knowles on X.
My rule was, if you are filmed crying on camera after an election,
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But however, people were like, Tim,
and they pointed out a handful of people that we know and are friends with
who cried with joy.
And I said, no, I don't care if you're happy or sad.
You film yourself crying on camera.
That's harsh, but it's fair.
It's equal treatment under the law.
That's right.
Elad, do you want to shout anything out?
My name's a lot of Yahoo. I'm a journalist here at Tim cast. This was one of my favorite episodes
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some of these wonderful, delicious Mayflower cigars that Michael knows was nice enough to
give me. And obviously it was great to have the thoughtful and wise knows on tonight. Thank you
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I had a great time tonight as well. It was an
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Because we had people chatting.
They were like, Phil, don't you know the name of your own song?
Because you're always like, what was the other song?
And it's because Phil is trying not to shout out the songs he hasn't released yet.
Yeah.
We still have six new songs that have not come out yet.
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Michael,
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Thank you to everybody who was hanging out tomorrow.
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