Timcast IRL - MAGA CIVIL WAR: Elon Says IMPEACH TRUMP, Trump Says CUT Elon Contracts w/ Drew Hernandez

Episode Date: June 6, 2025

Tim, Phil, & Mary are joined by Drew Hernandez to discuss Elon Musk calling for Trump's impeachment, Trump responding and saying Elon Musk went crazy, Democrats flipping and calling for the release of the Epstein files, and Steve Bannon calling for Trump to seize SpaceX.   Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) Mary  @PopCultureCrisis  (YouTube) Serge @SergeDotCom (everywhere) Guest: Drew Hernandez @DrewHLive (X)

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Trump has then said that he wants to pull all of Elon's contracts. Elon then says that Trump is in the Epstein files. Have a nice day. And everybody's losing their mind. The news coverage everywhere is basically just this. You've got Fox. Everything is just Elon is fighting with Donald Trump. And now you've got people popping up being like, guys, stop fighting. We need this coalition. Steve Bannon says Donald Trump should seize SpaceX tonight. And I don't know if Bannon did this. Maybe.

People are calling for the deportation of Elon Musk over this. And I'm just sitting here laughing. I tweeted Elon 2028 full well knowing that Elon wasn't born here. Duh. We've talked enough about his emerald mind. And then I get a thousand, two thousand responses from people like, God damn, what are you doing? Because the Internet is full of not smart people. But I'm really excited to talk about this. And I guess this breakup that the media predicted, and I actually was skeptical on, but I stand corrected. So we're going to talk about that. Plus, we do have a bunch of other stories like, I don't know, some Democrats getting criminally charged, but who cares about that? Elon Musk and Donald Trump are fighting. Oh boy, we love drama, right? Before we get started,

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They're going to talk about the fight. Everybody else is. Everyone loves it. Yeah. So I don't know. Whatever. Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Drew Hernandez. Good to be back, man.

Good to see you. Who are you? What do you do? What an interesting night to be here. I host my own show, Drew Hernandez Live. You guys can catch it on Rumble. Rumble.com slash Drew Hernandez. We get spicy over there, but yes, sir.

Right on. We got Mary hanging out. Hello, everyone. My name is Mary Morgan, and you can usually find me on Pop Culture Crisis here at Timcast. I am especially excited to be back here tonight, specifically. Hello, everybody. My name is Phil Labonte. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains. I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary. Let's get into it. Here's the story from Axios. Musk calls for Trump's impeachment. Oh, man. This feud has

such a ridiculous timeline. It didn't just start there, but that's where it went. They say Elon Musk unleashed a fresh round of tweets late Thursday afternoon calling for President Trump to be impeached and declaring that SpaceX would begin decommissioning a spacecraft essential to NASA's operation. Trump's threat to cancel billions of dollars in government contract with Musk's companies has ignited a new round of escalation. OK, there's that. And then there's what is this one? Elon Musk tweeting time to drop the really big bomb at real. Donald Trump is in the Epstein files. This is the real reason they have not been made public. Have a nice day, DJT. Mark this post for the future. The truth will come out. Holy crap. I'll just say to kick things off, this is 101 million views, 259,000 retweets. All of the Democrats are screaming, release the Epstein files. And I'm kind of like, I agree, whatever. But this was a low blow. Isn't he kind of indicting

his own character, having chosen to work with Trump and then saying, hey, by the way, he's a pedophile. Like that is basically what you're implying. And he's reposting these videos from the 90s where Trump is just like standing next to Epstein. You knew about that already. All of us knew that he was on the redacted version of the flight logs already. And nobody thought that that was a confirmation that he's a pedophile. I think this is why it's a low blow. Now, for a lot of people, I think they'll take it exactly as you did, which is a fair point. I think analyzing this,

Elon Musk is just saying this to get under Trump's skin. He knows it's BS. We know that Donald Trump is in the Epstein files insofar as he flew on that plane several times. But where did he fly to? The question is, is he in the actual evidentiary list? Yeah, stuff like that. But that is the insinuation when he says that's why the files have not been made public. But again, I don't believe for a second that Elon actually thinks Trump did anything wrong. Otherwise, he would have said Trump is in the files having done, you know, insert thing. He's doing this because he's trying to damage Trump and piss him off. Well, that's true.

That's a that's a pretty big, not only accusation, but if he doesn't honestly believe that, I'm not saying either way it's like justified. But if it's true, it's true. And people are going to want to know. But if Elon is truly just lying, like just to play politics over something like this, I think he should be canceled. He's throwing a fit because he thought that he could just give Trump $300 million

and then get whatever he wants. I don't understand how the richest man in the world doesn't understand how money works to the point where he thought he could cut a trillion dollars from discretionary spending that's not in the military yeah and he knew that that math wasn't mathing from the start so what is he so mad about he was expecting the republicans to actually take up the same crusade that he was on now that, that may have been naive, but that's what he's upset about.

It's not just that, oh. Was he planning to pitch this fit all along? He knew that Doge was not going to be effective. I'm not going to speculate as to what he was thinking, because I have no way of knowing. Well, maybe I will. But I don't know if I have a sense of what he was thinking. It's sweet, like i just felt

like his affiliation with the campaign was going to backfire and i'm just like watching it all incinerate yeah um i don't think that i think it's a net bad for the the country though having having the issues going on not having doge cuts be know, not having them actually be part of the bill, or at least have more people in Congress speaking openly about having to, you know, make those cuts real and actually address the debt. You know, the $36 trillion is not getting smaller, and we are going to see fewer and fewer people interested in buying our debt. The Treasury bills that they went on sale last. Very soft sales.

They had to lower the price to get, or no, they had to increase the yield so that way they were more attractive. Elon basically wasted his time. He might as well have been an intern at the White House. He'd spend his time better getting people coffee. I love this, though. I don't know about that. I'm just thinking about it.

I'm like, I'm going to use this in every debate from now on. So it's like, you know, we got a culture war debate with some liberal guy. And then if he ever stumps me, I'm going to go, well, you're in the Epstein files. You know, have a nice day. The have a nice day

part was way too cheeky. That's a wild lie if that's a lie. I think he was probably pretty referring to that. But it's a factual but not truthful thing. It is. That's a wild lie if that's a lie. I think he was probably referring to the... It's a factual but not truthful thing. It is. Where's the community note on this? There is. I bet it's nuts. It says he only wrote that the name exists

in fact. Trump's name does exist in the Epstein files, therefore, while his statement may be controversial, it's difficult to say that he lied. Right? No, it says real Donald Trump is in the Epstein files. Oh, you see what he did at real donald trump is in the episode he could be saying that the tag the name or something is in the files maybe related because because trump's account's been around for you know what 2010 or something yeah longer really out there yeah and then there's um evidence shows djt name and epstein flight logs there's evidence shows DJT name in Epstein flight logs.

There's no indication of wrongdoing. The next one. What is this? Elon Musk, apart from spending money to get a known Jeffrey Epstein reelected. He wanted to get Epstein reelected. I think there's a typo in there. An arrow. As president, once posed for a photo with known Epstein associate Ghislaine Maxwell and all these links.

Clean your own house. Elon's getting roasted for this. I mean, there are some, uh, really dumb people out there. Like, like I was saying,

I tweeted Elon 2028 and I was fun. I was, I was sitting on my couch, just like eyes half glazed over, just finished eating some Chipotle. And I was scrolling through Twitter, like just looking down. And then I looked over at my wife and I started giggling and I typed

Elon 2028 and showed it to her and then she rolled her eyes and I tweeted it and I've got 2,000 responses from people like, Kim, you can't. He's not from here. I love you. That is how they sound. And they don't understand the things you say on Twitter. What I love too is

I love the, that's right. They don't understand what I mean on Twitter. I really felt that when he said that. Just that part. Only that part. It was funny because there's a bunch of people in the replies being like, he's trolling, calm down, but they don't get it. And so now there's people being like, dude, Tim's screwing with you. And I'm just sitting back

being like, what? It's probably conservatives too. They struggle with humor or sarcasm. They really do. It's almost impossible to get through them. I gotta be honest. Most internet people do. There are two kinds of people on the internet. Trolls and the trolls

victims. You know what I mean? Is Trump a troll victim? No, Trump's a troll. Which one is the troll and which one is the victim? In both contexts? Between Trump and Elon. Who's winning? Elon's a master troll.

I mean, I don't think he's better than Trump at trolling, but he's a troll. And what is his nickname going to be? Kekias Maximus. He's already... Trump has come up with a demeaning nickname. Oh, like a Trump name. Obviously, this is the next step. This is the next logical step in the process. Muskie?

I think he's going to say something to do with a space brain, something weird like that. Like he's a weird guy. Because I think that Musk is a little sensitive when he's called weird because of the touch of autism that he allegedly has. So I think he's

a little sensitive to that and I think that's probably where Donald Trump will go. Fussy Elon! I don't know. Look at this reply from this guy sensitive to that and i think that that's probably where where donald trump will go yeah fussy elon i don't know look at this reply from this guy right here drew hernandez hey elon musk i'm curious if what you're saying about trump being in the epstein files is true how long have you known this why did you wait until now were you planning on just sitting on this forever genuine question now that you have decided to release blackmail yeah if he's being absolutely serious about this let's just assume it's true i have no idea if it's true but going with his comment what has already been said is like how long have you known this type of information why

would you be sitting on it right i don't think he thought this through because this is not the w you think it is because if it is true you're sitting on information that we would uh the entire class would like to know well he's basically saying that he knew trump was untoward as a matter of speaking and uh as a matter of speaking and he was like i'm gonna work with him anyway and try and get stuff from him it's kind of like elon it's it's it's this was you know it's one thing if he says Trump should be impeached and replaced. Like when, so here's where this started. Elon said, this bill is bloat. It's evil. You know, the people voted for it. You know what you did.

And then he said, we should primary these people. So he's pissed. And I get it. He went into a while though. He's been talking like this for like a couple of weeks, right? He went into doge to try and cut all the spending. And then what what happens they do this bill that increases spending as it always happens my attitude on this is kind of like and so you're telling me that congress is doing exactly what congress has always done every single time no matter what i'm not happy about it but there's a lot of things in trump's bill that are really good. Border security, you know, budgets for CBP, stuff like that.

The AI stuff is bad in it, but I can own suppressors. Yeah, the Hearing Protection Act is still in there. There haven't been changes to that, so that's the silver lining if it does pass. Can I just feel vindicated for one second that Doge is a non-happening?

No. What do you mean? Move fast and break things. Uh-uh, uh-uh, USAID is gone. Okay, maybe that's like the only happening. There are cuts, there are cuts. They've already set a lot of policies into motion that they're just taking the time to flesh out now. Like the things that they started at the Department of Education,

they've shrunk that considerably. They got rid of a lot of... Wait, what with the Department of Education? The job that the Secretary of Education... Discover the magic of Bad MGM Casino, where the excitement is always on deck. Pull up a seat and check out a wide variety of table games with a live dealer. From roulette to blackjack, watch as a dealer hosts your table game

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So they're not, look, the government is like one of the biggest organizations in the world. So getting rid of, even if they get rid of like 2% of the people that work there, if they've managed to get them out and get them out of their job and get them out of D.C., that's a huge amount of people to fire. Like, there's a lot of people that work for the government. The New York Times has this. Musk suggests Trump is in the so-called Epstein files, a source of speculation and conspiracy

theories. It's just a picture of Jack Posobiec. Hey, Jack! With the binder. Oh, man. Wasn't Bill Clinton on the flight logs, too? Yeah. There's a painting of Bill Clinton in a dress on Epstein Island. A painting of Bill Clinton in a dress on Epstein Island.

Yeah. It was in the house. A painting of Bill Clinton in a dress. Yeah. With a blue dress with red high heels on. Yep. It was Hillary's. Yeah, probably.

That's how he wishes she dressed. Well, he wishes that she was in, like, looked like that in that dress because it was a flattering painting of Bill Clinton's female body. I think if anything, this means Trump needs to stop truthing and start tweeting.

He's got to come back to that. I'm so sick of him ghettoizing himself on that stupid app that no one likes and no one has. He's on contract now. All right, wait, wait. We got more. We got more.

Here we go from cnbc trump says elon musk went crazy suggests cutting government contracts for his companies he lashed out saying he was crazy blah blah we get it do they have the actual quote uh let's see the easiest way to save money in our budget billions and billions of dollars is to terminate elon's governmental subsidies contracts, Trump wrote in a Truth Social post. I was always surprised that Biden didn't do it. Musk promptly responded, go ahead, make my day. He later upped the ante, writing, in light of the president's statement about cancellation of my government contracts, SpaceX will begin decommissioning its Dragon spacecraft immediately.

I love this. It's what NASA uses to get people to and from the ISS. So imagine being one of these astronauts. You're in space. You're in the space station. You just had this big fiasco. People got stuck for months. And you're like, I just hope I can get home.

And then you pull up your Twitter on your laptop and Elon's like, I'm shutting it down. Trump's going to be on the phone with Putin being like, yo, can you let us hook a ride the next time you're going up there? This is great. You know why this is awesome? Because it's like celebrity, politics, pop culture all rolled up in one drama. Like, this is what every housewife, suburban housewife,

wanted to watch on TV when they were watching, like, the Jersey Housewives or whatever the show was. Like, the great villain for them. Exactly. They're throwing drinks. Yeah. Slinging champagne. suburban housewife wanted to watch on TV when they were watching like the Jersey Housewives or whatever the show was. They're throwing drinks. Yeah. I am tomorrow first thing like, okay, so we have the culture war in the morning, but after that I'm getting in the cyber truck and I'm driving into all the liberal areas

because I want them to cheer for me. They're going to be cheering for me. A lot of them are probably confused. Who do I do here? This doesn't mean that he's like pivoting left. They know that. It doesn't matter. The left doesn't have policies.

They see this as a win because they see it as, you know, people on the right eating their own. Yeah. Well, no, yes. But what I mean is Democrats are just anti-Trump. They don't have anything. So Elon. They're anti-Elon too. Only because.

If anything, I see these protests and they're holding up more signs against Elon than Trump. Only because he was pro-Trump. Yep. Now that he's anti-Tr so the he was in the oval office on friday right yeah something like that and and he he let his kid hang out with trump it's like there's no way elon actually thought trump was doing anything with kids and let his kid hang out with Trump. It's like there's no way Elon actually thought Trump was doing anything with kids and have his kid around. Here's the conspiracy theory. Elon and Trump knew that once the contract employment thing was over, Elon would need to sever politically.

And so, again, as the theory goes, they stage a feud on X, which costs nobody nothing, so that Elon can basically go, oh, I don't like Trump now. And then Tesla can recover and liberals stop boycotting. He was leaving government already because his special government employment was over. Trump is now saying, I kicked him out. I would believe that if it weren't for the Epstein. Yeah, me too. I would believe it. Trump would not have agreed to having that be part of a state. No, I agree.

I don't think the conspiracy is right. I think Elon and Trump are both very similar in that, like, they're petty, you know? Trump, he makes fun of people and he roasts them. Remember when he roasted Chris Christie? Yes. Yeah, absolutely. During the primary? Oh, no, Bill Barr. Bill Barr.

I mean, he roasts Chris Christie all the time, but the Bill Barr roast, that was the best one. I got to pull that one up. Trump's best troll ever. You know, to be honest with you, I feel like a lot of the things that Trump says, very rarely does he say things that he isn't capable of taking back and just ignoring that he said. Now, I think that he might have a special—people might give him leeway that they wouldn't give to someone else. But the comment that Musk made was like line crossing. Check this out. For those that don't remember this, it is from one year ago. Former President Trump swiped at his one-time

Attorney General Bill Barr late Wednesday after Barr said he would support the GOP presidential ticket despite his criticisms. Quote, wow, former AG Bill Barr, who let a lot of great people down by not investigating voter fraud in our country, has just endorsed me for president despite the fact that I called him weak, slow-moving, lethargic, gutless, and lazy. Trump posted on Truth Social. New York Post. Based on the fact that I greatly appreciate his wholehearted endorsement, I am removing the word lethargic from my statement. Thank you, Bill. So considering, like, just look, Elon posts on X all the time about his squabblings with people.

And Trump posts things like this. That's why I believe it. This is exactly in line with both of their personalities. To be honest, it's in line with, that's why I believe it. This is exactly in line with both of their personalities. To be honest, it's in line with my personality, so I enjoy it. But has Trump ever faced an autistic person before? Something like Elon Musk, because I think if he genuinely feels hurt or whatever's going on with him, he took it zero to a million, like quick. Yeah. Yeah.

And I would expect that from an autistic person like Elon Musk. It's just funny because like I said that Elon would expect things in exchange for his donation. It wasn't, it wasn't a donation. It was transactional. And I feel like a lot of people didn't understand that. And they just thought, oh, yeah, Elon is giving 300 million to the Trump campaign, like, just to be nice, you know, because he's why this is happening. So it's backfiring that this affiliation became so close in the first place. And I said that would happen. So I just, I do feel a little bit vindicated.

Well, I don't know that I agree with your assessment of why Musk was involved in the first place. Like I do get the sense that Musk at the the national debt and he sees an existential crisis he got the role in doge because he gave 300 million to the trump campaign that wouldn't have happened otherwise maybe but he he had he's he's this was his the his the reason he moved away from the democrats and actually decided to support not only donald trump but a bunch of republicans is because of the debt like that that's the major driver like i mean yes he's he's got like he's got interests of his own

that that would be to spacex or be to uh tesla and whatnot but the real reason that like or at least it seems that the real reason that he got involved considering what he was doing was he wanted wants to see actual shrinking of the debt. You don't have to get rid of the debt. You don't even have to have a plan to get rid of the debt. What he's looking to do is signal to the market that the United States is good for its word. As soon as the bond market went soft last week, that was a big signal. So the point of him trying to make those cuts was to signal to markets hey look the the united states is still the the safest bet in the world that doesn't work by just

like cutting funding to like transit transgender surgeries on shrimp like what that's not where the money is spent you're a hundred percent right but I bet that was a real program too. Sure, it was. But the point that I'm making is, it's not that it was the amount of money that actually was being cut. It was that the government could make cuts. Because historically, if you look at the times that they've ever cut, we haven't had a balanced budget since the 90s.

So we're so in foreign debt and we've been sending signals to other countries that, hey, the money that you spend on T-bills, 90s so we're so in foreign debt and we've been sending signals to other countries that hey the money that you spend on on t-bills you might not actually make that money back the government might actually the federal government might actually be a bad investment they lowered our credit rating honestly they've lowered our credit rating like two weeks ago from i don't remember what the what the highest one to the second highest one was but it was it was a big deal and the bond markets were soft because of it or well i don't remember the bond

market sell-off was the day before or not either way but the point is there are a lot of a lot of things happening in the market that are saying look the federal government might not be this big reliable thing that we used to think it was and that that that's because we can't actually make any cuts not we can't make big enough cuts and honestly if you told the market hey look here's a here's a spending package where there are actual cuts and the deficit isn't going to actually grow it's actually going to shrink that alone would send a message to the market people be like okay it's safe to buy T-bills. The United States is a safe bet nowadays.

He's got an econ. Ice is not getting anything. What? They're going to cut funding to ice and the border wall for sure. Probably. Well, the big beautiful bill increases the budget for those things. But that's the first thing on the cutting room floor the bill that trump wants passed will boost the budget of you're saying that when it goes

they want to yeah cut the the deficit oh you mean like if they actually want to bring the deficit down they've got to stop they're not going to touch anything else yeah this is what people don't realize is that we are addicted. You know, everybody out there who's got a small business knows exactly what this is. When you're trying to figure out where you're spending because you want to bring costs down, and then you go through your line items and it's like plastic cups and plastic forks, and then you're realizing it's all little things. There's no one thing to cut. And so you start pulling the obvious small things, then you realize you've only cut like 0.3 percent and you're like this did nothing to our monthly expenditures

that's what what happens trump gets in there and it's like how do we cut and they're like well almost all of the money is in is entitlements do you want to cut medicare and medicaid and they're like a little bit i guess like good luck in the midterms yeah so they don't and then it's military and trump's like we want more money for the military we want more for deportations we want more border stuff they're like okay so you're. And then it's military. And Trump's like, we want more money for the military. We want more for deportations. We want more border stuff. And they're like, OK, so you're increasing spending. It's definitely going to be less for the border and deportations, if you sign the bill? What do I get? What do you want? My district makes teddy bears. We want a bill that provides subsidies for teddy bear fluff. And then they're like, okay, I guess. And this is how you get the weird stuff in these bills.

Like, I can't remember what it was, but the last omnibus had something for like orange inspection fees to be subsidized or something. And it's like, that's very specific, like one county. Senator Rand Paul was saying that he would vote for it. So he's actually signaling that he's movable on it. He said, I'd vote for it if we got real spending cuts, but this bill is the largest debt increase in U.S. history, $5 trillion. That's like giving your 16-year-old a credit card,

watching them rack up to camp, booze and gambling, them raising their limit to 10. It's irresponsible. Did Rand Paul not say that he wants spending cuts to the border? I don't think that Rand Paul. I'm not aware of him saying anything about like. I thought I saw that earlier today. Well, I can't comment on it.

I haven't seen it. But the point that I'm making is Rand Paul, who know a fiscal hawk you know he he definitely is like he's signaling that he's close to a place where he'll vote for it so this is actually something that's still very much in play let's jump to the next story my friends from at the democrats kill the bill and release the epstein files tweets at the democrats who then tweeted what is trump hiding release the Epstein files tweets at the Democrats who then tweeted. What is Trump hiding? Release the Epstein files. Eric Swalwell released the Epstein files. Now I am shocked.

I didn't expect Democrats to stand on principle and call for such an important thing like releasing the Epstein files. I wonder what could have happened that would have made them come around and agree. Oh, it's anti-Trump now. Elon Musk accuses Trump of being in the Epstein files and Democrats all of a sudden are saying, go for it. No, they had a change of heart and they're suddenly against child molestation. Oh, I wouldn't ever believe that for any amount of time.

Super don't believe that. I just woke up one day and they were like, wait, diddling kids is wrong. Stop doing that. That would woke up one day and they were like, wait, diddling kids is wrong. Stop doing that. That would never happen among the Democratic Party. But I do think it's funny. You know, is this where the Democrats

try and find their pivot moment? They're sitting there pulling their hair out, being like, we've spent millions of dollars to try and talk to regular people. What do we do? And now they're like,

release the Epstein files. And Chad Prather was like, I agree. And a bunch of conservatives are like, yes. Please do it. So here's my bet. 2028 is going to be some like

random damn being like, we'll release the Epstein files. It's the only policy we have. That'd be hilarious. They'd get some good votes. I don't think enough people even care. I said that the first time around. It wasn't something

that anyone voted on. And they shouldn't have mentioned it if they didn't have a real plan of following through. So it was a big embarrassment. Yeah. Well, the administration has botched it. Bondi's botched it. The new FBI is not making it any easier for people to believe that this administration is going to deliver on any of that. And I think Elon knows that.

We all know that. And I think that probably went into why Elon said what he said today to get at Trump. It's very petty. I mean, this is a worse breakup than Ye and Kim, Britney, Justin Timberlake. I mean, this is really bad, dude. I'm just interested to see where this goes next, because i don't think you can say anything worse than that and if you notice trump did respond he responded maybe about an hour after elon posted that and he didn't deny it not saying he did it i'm just saying that's unlike trump all trump said was elon should have turned on me earlier i mean i i think it's

probably pr 101 you don't pour gas on the fire. But he's been doing it all day. But not. So has Trump been beat? Not the Epstein stuff. So did Elon beat Trump today? No. If Trump came out and said the Epstein thing is a lie, I have nothing to do with Epstein, he's pouring gas on the fire.

If he comes out and says, Elon, you're crazy and insults him, that's actually PR 101. It's redirect. Don't give them narrative control. I wish conservatives actually knew how to do this with media. They's redirect. Don't give them narrative control. I wish conservatives actually knew how to do this with media. They don't. They give the corporate press the narrative control all the time. But Trump's you're not going to beat Trump. He's the media guy.

He needs to log out of Truth Social, log into his ex-account, quote, tweet Elon, and ratio him. That's all you need to do. It doesn't matter what you say as long as you ratio him. He would too. On his own platform. Yeah.'t matter what you say as long as you ratio him. He would, too. On his own platform. Yeah.

I think he's contractually barred from doing that. From ratioing? From using X. Using X. Wait, what? Yeah. Because he's invested in Truths of. Yeah.

That's why he uses it. Oh. I've seen him tweet since the inauguration. Yes, there's been a few. But I think he's probably got a contract saying like you won't principally use other platforms or whatever and so i'm sure it had something to do with the election yeah shrug it off 2024 but i do i think one tweet is probably fine we all still say tweet everyone says twitter i still say it's still twitter right nobody i don't

care yeah but you're right. Trump should get on right now and just he should just tweet at Elon ratio. Yeah. Like your mom's hot. President of the United States tweeting at Elon Musk. Some some nonsense. Well, my friends in response. Yay. He's chimed in. He says, br he says bros please no we love you both so much look at matt strickland's reply to him hey kanye west was it the jews no no no no jeremy kaufman has the appropriate response finally a voice of sanity i love jeremy kaufman maybe he can mediate the debate between them two. Dana Lash says the fragile coalition on the right is at the edge and the left knows it.

They didn't push the right there. The right did it all by itself, taking the bait. The left and its legacy press ID'd Musk as the linchpin to this coalition. And if they can take down Trump or Musk individually, they will take the alliance and with it the first domino in the coalition. Blind loyalty has no place in a free republic. People are free to agree and disagree on the merits of the issues. This nation was built on criticizing its lawmakers and airing grievances with policy. The people who don't understand these concepts are as great a threat to this republic as the legacy press and identity politic left they purport to oppose. She says there is an art to disagreeing and remaining united as tweeted Elon, and they said,

And all I could think was, aw, the poor thing is developmentally disabled. The lollipop twins. Yeah, you know, I'm not on anyone's side. Like, why would I take a side in a personal beef between Trump and Elon? Now, if you want to ask me about the big, beautiful bill, I've already laid my position out on it that the overspending is bad. However, that is status quo. I want Trump to win. So I shrug at the bad stuff and say, I hope Trump can secure his agenda. At least let's take what we can get. I've always been a reformer. But on top of that, it's so dumb where it's like,

Elon is the worst. I hate him. And Trump is great or Trump has been an Elon is good. And I'm just like, Elon's got really great space technology stuff. I'm really glad what he did on X and bringing back free speech. Donald Trump is one of the best presidents, if not the best of my lifetime. Certainly he makes mistakes, but I'm happy with the job he's doing. So I would just say all in all, I'm quite content with the work both of them have done already. And I have nothing to do with their personal beef with each other and don't care. Other than I enjoy the entertainment factor of it. Sure, it's fun. But like the option was Kamala Harris.

Everybody that's like, you know, worried about what has or has not been done or what has or hasn't been accomplished what they're going to accomplish the option was kamala harris it's a win it's still a win the there there are no more you know migrant caravans coming towards our country uh we're actually deporting people yeah we need to deport more but it looks like they're actually stepping that up. Are they? Yeah. So Stephen Miller went to some of the people at DHS and he was wigging out on them.

I forget who was reporting it, but he has been real P.O.'d about how many people are not getting deported. I've been real P.O.'d about the same thing. Who said Stephen Miller? I know. What's gonna happen about it? Stephen Miller. I love his song Abracadabra. I guess he was,

I read on X, I don't remember the post, so I don't have it here to verify or anything, but I read on X there were people at DHS that he went and had a meeting with and he was reading the riot act

because they weren't doing enough deportations, which is something that we've talked about here. If you're actually serious about getting rid of millions of people that are here illegally, you absolutely have to have significantly more deportations. The more, and the more deportations you do,

the more likely it is that people will self-deport. They'll just split, you know? Well, I, I told you it wasn't going to happen. That's not going to happen. It's happening.

It's happening. Self-deportations? No. No, I told you, I told you mass deportations't going to happen. That's not going to happen. It's happening. I told you it wasn't going to happen. It's happening. Self-deportations? No. I told you mass deportations were coming. Not anywhere. The self-deportations will never get anywhere near where we need to be with deportations. Self-deportations are happening. I don't know if we have the hard numbers, but they are.

Yeah, but listen, dude. These third world people that have been brought here, they will live as minimal as possible dodging this administration, hoping that they get some psycho leftist Democrat in the White House and they'll possibly get all amnesty. That's why we got to pass a bill. Yeah. It's got to happen. But I mean, if you are relying on self deport deportations, I wasn't not you, not you. I'm just saying generally, that's not how we're going to take the country back. I am a holistic deporter, so we need to actually enforce laws against hiring these people.

If you hire people that are here, if you knowingly hire people that are here illegally, you could possibly lose your business, lose your property. Honestly, even if you unknowingly hire an illegal, you should get fined at the very least. Maybe a fine. Fine. I agree. That's why I said lose your business. If you knowingly do it, jail. Well, yeah, I think jail would be... Right to jail.

Unknowingly, it's the same thing as getting a ticket. The point that I'm making is there are no options that I think that we should take off the table. Whether it be deporting people that you pick up because they broke the law, deporting people that you just happened upon and found out that they were

illegals, whatever the reason. We should seize those big Disney cruise ships and just take them to a resort. That's what I was saying. It's like rent a Costco and then put free citizenship on top. Everybody comes in, then you close doors. Yes.

And then we're like, you got to go. Close up taco trucks, free tacos. You'll catch illegals. No, that's not fair. I like tacos. No, you use the tacos to catch the illegals. Yes, but what happens if I walk up to a truck that has free tacos? Well, then you just start speaking English.

You'll be fine. You tie up a taco in some fishing line and pull it over the border. Yeah, but see, I'm sorry. No, this is offensive, okay? I'm sorry. I love tacos, okay? Taco Bell is the best. Everybody agrees.

And it's not about the people. It's about the food you are disparaging oh i see what you're saying so it's an offense that the actual food experience why would we waste the food on well there's not gonna be no no no no i'm saying stop making fun of tacos bro taco bell is the best come on i buy Taco Bell here and everybody loses it and it's gone. Like I could order $300 worth of Taco Bell and it'll just be vaporized in an hour. Taco Bell's the best. It's good. It's a superfood.

It's a superfood. Yes. Depends on who you're trying to catch. I'm pretty sure it isn't, but let's go to the next story. We've got this from the Post Millennial. Steve Bannon calls for SpaceX to be nationalized, Elon Musk to be deported. That's insane.

This whole day's been insane. No, today's been so much fun. I had a great day today. I don't know. This has been amazing. He says, look, if you're going to deport illegal aliens, you've got to deport illegal aliens. But Elon's not an illegal alien.

SpaceX. President Trump tonight should sign an executive order illegal aliens, you've got to deport illegal aliens. But Elon's not an illegal alien. President Trump tonight should sign an executive order calling for the Defense Production Act to be called in SpaceX and seize SpaceX tonight before midnight. The U.S. government

should seize it. If a guy's going to sit there and start making quotes, also, as Stuart Stevens talked back in January, I don't know why we haven't had a full investigation. Look, if you're going to deport illegal aliens, you've got to deport illegal aliens. The good go with the goose

and the gander. Did he just say the good go with the goose and the gander? This is insane to even contemplate. I happen to believe, given the facts that I've been shown, that he's an illegal alien. An illegal alien's got to be reported. He has a scoop.

Also, this drug use is reported in the New York Times. The drug use in the New York Times. If that's a fact, that ought to be investigated. You can't have a security clearance. Jack Posobiec, as you know. Jack, if somebody in your unit had that type of drug, had that type of drugs and they had a security clearance, what would happen to them, sir? Well, Steve, we remember that Hunter Biden popped positive, I believe for cocaine, on

his very first weekend in the Navy Reserve. And even at that time, I don't remember if his father, I think his father was still the vice president at the time. He wasn't president yet, or audio pen president yet. And Hunter Biden was summarily separated from the United States Navy over his very first weekend

drilling as an idiot. All right, all right, we get it. So I'm going to go ahead and say nah. I like Steve Bannon. I disagree with him on this one. Elon and drugs and security clearance? The New York Times, yeah, because SpaceX is doing military stuff. He's got clearance. His company does.

Or people at his company do. And his argument is because the New York Times reported that he was doing drugs or whatever, he should have his clearance revoked. But Elon's denied it. He said it's just fake news. And I don't believe it. What was their evidence for that? I think it was anonymous sources.

Who like work for him or something? For Elon? Well, they're anonymous sources. We have no idea. Well, the New York Times is known for fact-checking. I have an anonymous source that says Donald Trump can lend a backflip. I too can make things up.

Maybe Trump is the anonymous source Maybe he preemptively did this This is the 10D chess we've all been talking about Trump calls the New York Times You know, Elon is doing a lot of drugs That coke, that was him He tried to give it to me and I said No, Elon

I don't do that The funny thing is like, literally every media outlet Anywhere is only talking about this. It's like celebrity gossip news, podcast drama, headline news on big news outlets. Are these like the two most important guys on the planet?

I don't know, but it's the biggest breakup in Pride Month so far. The biggest what? Biggest breakup in Pride Month so far. There was a funny tweet that said this is the gayest thing that happens in Pride Month. End of a bromance. Yeah, look, I mean, it is pretty lame, but these calls for nationalization of

one of the biggest companies in the country, you can't. That would send terrible signals to the market. Right now, we just got interest rates under control or i'm sorry inflation under control my number just came out today and it's like 2.1

percent which just where they want it so it's in that sweet spot they're not gonna they're not gonna raise interest rates uh they're not gonna lower interest rates but they're not gonna raise them so like the economy's kind of like chilled out. If we can get this tax package across the border and across the line and get that put into law, then you can actually look at doing some real, real cuts to to a lot of the the stuff, the government government interventions in the market and stuff. And you can have serious growth that could really take care of the deficit. Government is dumb. You can't threaten to just nationalize a company

like SpaceX. You can. It's a terrible idea. You can threaten to do it. It's not going to happen. This is just Bannon mouthing off. Trump wouldn't even do that or threaten to do that. I don't know. You know what would be cool? In my mind,

because I like both Elon and Trump, I'm just imagining they're both sitting on a couch together giggling as they both show each other their tweets. Kicking their feet in the air. Playing their brand new Nintendo Switch 2s. And then like after they're done tweeting, they throw their phones away and then they go to the play Mario Party.

I mean, that does make sense. Yeah, but do you think this maybe creates a massive security problem for Trump? Why? Like when you hear someone like Elon Musk say Donald Trump is on the Epstein files, you don't think there are people out there that are – Yeah. That's right there. Polishing weapons right now and getting ready. There are people that are chatting.

They think it's 4D chess and that they're actually friends. But I don't because you're right. The Epstein thing, that is not something you want someone to accuse you of. That's some serious stuff. That's what I'm saying. Like, I mean, I could only imagine what Trump's security is thinking about right now at the same time. But maybe that's how Bannon sees it. I believe there were even like Epstein victims.

I don't know if they remained anonymous or not, but they said they had seen Trump interact with Epstein and that, you know, they weren't even like friends. They were more like vague business associates and he never made any advances to any of these women. He presumed to just be like prostitutes. Hmm.

I haven't heard any of the details of, of his interactions. I posted the screenshots of these documents before, which I'll find if I, well, I mean, Epstein was obviously, you know,

multiple foreign intelligence agencies, blackmail operations, you know, I mean, he was Mossad, UK, et cetera. The guy is by default going to be around a lot of very important people.

You know, someone like Donald Trump will be a target to something like that. So I think it will be inevitably obvious that someone like that will be around Donald Trump in the past. But the big question mark is like, well, to what extent? I think Roger Stone wrote a book that had extensive research talking about how President Trump, I think to go to your point, I think Roger Stone wrote a book that had extensive research talking about how President Trump, I think to go to your point, I think actually helped some of the Epstein victims at one point, if I have that right. But, you know, this throws a massive monkey wrench in the whole thing. And, you know, Elon's not a dumb guy. He's not a dumb guy. He knew what this was going to do. And I'm just curious to see where this goes again, because like you said, Tim, this is a big, big thing to throw at someone.

Does the media now turn around and start entertaining the Epstein stuff because it's anti-Trump? Yes. I wouldn't be surprised at all. They're like, obviously, they've already tried doing it to a certain degree, but not headline heavy attack like they would do for Trump. I'm wondering if from this, the Democrats are like, hey, here's our attack factor because they've been I've been talking about this. They've got all these different secret projects. They got a new one I was reading about. I couldn't believe it. They've got Project Sam, Searchlight, Wildflower. And that's another one. The centrist Coachella, they're calling it. And I'm just like,

what? Because the centrist Coachella, like therist Coachella, they're calling it. And I'm just like, what? The centrist Coachella? Like the actual Coachella? They're calling it the centrist Coachella as a reference to a bunch of moderate Democrats coming together to try and talk. Not like they're going to a concert. I was like, what? They are calling it that. I'm sorry.

I just found the document I was looking for. I think it actually was a quote from Virginia Guthrie. But this was trending last year. Virginia Guthrie? Guthrie? Oh, Giuffre. I think, isn't... I don't know.

Giuffre. But it was last July that this was trending. A bunch of Democrats were saying, it's so wild that we have unsealed court documents and notices from the Epstein case proving... Real quick, sorry, you were right. That's her maiden name. Yeah.

Proving Trump S.A. little kids. And the only person to acknowledge this was the guy who shot his ear off. That was back in July last year. And then I looked at the document they were talking about, and it has this quote. Donald Trump was a good friend of Jeffrey's. He didn't partake in sex with any of us but he flirted with me he'd laugh and tell jeffrey you've got the life and then another quote says it's true that he trump didn't partake in any sex with us but it's not true that he flirted with me

this was misreported virginia said. Donald Trump never flirted with me. And then she said she never said to Jeffrey, you've got the life. That was a fake quote. So anyway, no, I take that back. Her name is Roberts. I don't know where Guthrie comes from. Well, rest in peace.

Yeah, that's weird. When you search for Virginia Guthrie, Jufre pops up. But I can't figure out why they're calling her that. Anyway. Mandela effect? I don't know. No, I think it's like when you Google search

Virginia Guthrie, the first thing that pops up is her Wikipedia for Giuffre. Hmm. Yeah, no idea. Anyway, whatever. What were we talking about? Democrats trying to weasel their way back into politics? Well, yeah.

I mean, this could be a way for them to actually, if they're smart, they'll try to capitalize on it. You know, I mean, they've got nothing else. And if they can attach themselves to Musk saying things like he should be impeached, you know, it makes sense for them. Because they don't have anything else. They've been racking up the L's. Is it time for a third party that represents the 80% in the middle? Yeah, and then Yang chimed in. Yeah, it is.

The forward party. Yeah, I think it's time. Yeah, it's time. I already got some tips made up. Let's pull it up, ladies and gentlemen. Here we go from Elon Musk. In the wake of his fight with Trump, Elon Musk says, Is it time to create a new political party in America that actually represents the 80% in the middle?

To which I said yes, indeed. However, it's a pipe dream. He's got 3.29 million votes and 81% said yes, but literally everybody does this. Michael Malice has the best response. We just need to vote in the right people. Yep. Yep. Yeah.

I love how Elon's response is like, we need a new political party. And it's literally been the response from everybody always all the time it's never gonna happen no i don't oh dude did you see this meme it's uh that interview that trump did with that i can't remember that guy's name but he's like i have a plan to cut spending and then he hands the paper to the journalist who looks confused and says increased spending i feel like at least on social issues, the Republican Party already represents the middle 80. Yeah, I agree. Yep.

Agreed. What is he saying? That Democrats are 10 and Republicans are 10% and then everyone else is just confused? Trump won the popular vote. Pretty sure that people know what he is. And his popularity has been increasing. Yeah, I'm not sure what Musk is talking about, but... I voted no just to

be bitchy no no we don't need to represent anyone did he post that before or after the epstein comment uh this was uh five or six hours ago oh this was before wasn't it was before so he was still yeah yeah the epstein one was re was recent actually let me find when he tweeted the i think the epstein thing was uh because that was at 2 o'clock. His last Epstein-related post was at 4.43 p.m. Yeah, 3.10 he posted, Trump is on the Epstein, so it was like an hour later.

And then he retweeted Ian Miles Chong, President versus Elon, who wins? My money's on Elon. Trump should be impeached and J.D. Vance should replace him. Well, I'm very interested in your opinion, man from Malaysia. Tell me more about my president and another guy who runs a company in my country. Okay, I see that in Miles Chong's post, and I see Elon's post the same way. I also don't see Elon as American.

Well, to be fair, he lives here. He's extremely influential. He literally worked with the president. He helped get USAID gutted and removed. And he launches rocket ships. He also owns X. Yeah, Ferris, he's just not American. He's a naturalized American citizen. He's been here for 40 years or something.

I don't see him as, culturally speaking, American. I would never refer to him that way. That's what you're saying. He has like an accent, right? Well, yeah, he does have an accent, but that's not Why does he have an accent? I don't know. Is it an accent or is he just talking like that? Serge, why don't you have an accent? He says he doesn't

know. You guys are from the same place. You know each other, right? He's British. What? Everybody in South Africa knows each other, especially if you're white. Yeah. That's why I was like, I just assumed. There's only one family down there. But all of the South Africans who are descended from the colonizers are... They all hang out.

They got a club. Yeah, they're in a secret Illuminati club, right? There's like 12 of them. Yeah. I think Elon also said that if it weren't for him, Trump wouldn't have won the election. He did. He said that too today, right? Yes, extremely directly.

Listen, have y'all followed, what's her, I can't remember her name. Who's that fat lady that was on TV that Trump hates? Rosie O'Donnell. Yeah, Rosie O'Donnell. Roseanne Barr, he loves Roseanne. We love Roseanne. Oh, I thought, hates? Rosie O'Donnell. Roseanne Barr. He loves Roseanne. Rosie O'Donnell. She was saying that

Trump stole the election and that Elon... Because he owns the internet? Yeah, because he owns the internet and was controlling the votes. Because he owns the internet. And then she moved to the Shire. I love when people talk about who does and does not own the internet.

Yeah. Here we go. What is this? Look it, look it. We got it. I got the proof. Rosie O'Donnell suggests Elon Musk stole the 2024 election for Trump. Quote, he owns and runs the internet.

No, that's so funny because the headline about Elon and Ghislaine Maxwell in that photo says Ghislaine Maxwell asked Elon Musk to destroy the internet. What? Yeah. I want to find this Rosie O'Donnell clip. X is great because if I go

and I search for Rosie O'Donnell, I'll find it. Do I have to put the apostrophe in her name? I don't know. If I Google search, it doesn't come up. Ghislaine Maxwell asked Elon Musk if there was a way to delete information about oneself

off the internet at this Vanity Fair party where they met. Here you go, ladies and gentlemen. From her mouth to your ears. You know, a lot of people did vote for him. Yes. Do you accept their right to do that and their opinion of him? Well, I respect their right to do that.

I question why the first time in American history a president has won every swing state. Not true. And is also best friends and his largest donor was a man who owns and runs the internet. Also not true. So I would hope that that would be investigated and that we would see whether or not it was an anomaly or something else that happened on election night in America when Kamala Harris was filling up stadiums

with people who supported her. And Donald Trump was not able to do that. So it's curious to me. What is wrong with her brain? She's like, Kamala Harris was filling up stadiums and Trump could not do that. What? She moved to Ireland and started breathing in all the bog fumes. Oh, yeah.

It does. He does your brain. She said for the first time in American history, a president won all the bog fumes. Oh, yeah. It does. He does your brain. She said, for the first time in American history, a president won all of the swing states. Like, I'd like to introduce you to Ronald Reagan. I think Richard Nixon, too, right? Yeah. A lot of presidents have won all the swing states.

It's crazy that this lady was like a TV personality or whatever. Elon broke into the internet. She was in the Flintstones. And he changed the elections. Well, I do think, to be fair, you know, like Mary, what would you do if Donald Trump got up on stage

in front of like 60 million people and said, Mary Morgan is a fat pig. Like, how would that affect your psyche? I would crash out. It'd be worse than this. Crash out. That's what he did to her. Irrecoverable. You know he did that to her right she never recovered that was funny when she when megan kelly was like you've referred to him as fat pig i would know only rosie o'donnell that happened i would know that it's not

true so maybe i would be fine i'd be so excited if he called you if trump called you a fat pig yeah get a lot of attention. I mean, I'd be showing off to my friends. I'd be like, wow. I mean, I don't want to be like, I like Trump, so I'd feel kind of bad if he was insulting me because I don't know why I'd make him angry. But, you know, I wouldn't go the Rosie O'Donnell route where I'm like, Elon owns the internet

and Trump is stealing the election. You would have to lean into it and actually get fat. Yeah. Or Taco Bell. If only, if only. Rosie O'Donnell. I don't know what's happening in this country. Maybe people were always this stupid.

We just didn't see it because we didn't have the internet. Yeah, because you didn't have access to everyone's thoughts. When she did her TV show, it was pre-recorded, right? It wasn't live. So if she had something stupid, they'd be like, cut, Rosie, don't say that roll you know what i mean i don't even imagine that she did a lot of ad-libbing to be honest with you i imagine that she kind of learned her lines but that's just my well her show was a talk show oh yeah oh the uh yeah she had a i just was she on the view that

she wanted to move away to her ancestral homeland of Ireland so that she could detach from the news cycle and not worry about losing her rights to the Trump regime. To the abortions that she is definitely never going to get pregnant. The abortions that she's not getting. Well, she's gay. Didn't she flee with her non-binary child? Yeah, something like

that there was some people were like did your child consent to leaving or just abduct them then you're still just as focused on trump and american politics as you were when you lived here so what was she i mean moving she's not gonna be less focused this is like the most important thing going in her life ireland needs to deport Rosie O'Donnell. But don't bring her back here. No. Don't bring her back here. They need to give her citizenship.

Send her somewhere else. I don't care where. They can keep her. No, they've got the MMA fighter as the president now, isn't he? Oh, yeah. Conor McGregor. Is he running? I heard he was going to run.

That'd be epic. I don't think he's actually the president now. Nah, but that'd be cool if he won. They have like two presidents. There's one who's a president, and there's one who's more like a prime minister. Is that because of North and South? No, no.

In like the Republic of Ireland, yeah. Okay, all right. But a lot of countries have presidents and prime ministers. They do both. They just have a different name for it. Oh. Yeah, Northern Ireland is controlled by the crown i had uh as a total aside i had i got into a i got into this guy at the poker table

because we were talking about when king charles gave away canada did you guys see that recently the day yeah like last week or whatever and then he was just like you know that they're independent from the crown, right? And I was like, the king of Canada is King Charles. And he's like, no, it isn't. Canada is a sovereign nation. And I was like, no, no, it's not. He's like, you want to bet?

I'm like, yeah, how much? He's like, $100. And I was like, okay. And then I looked up Canada.ca where the government of Canada says we are a constitutional monarchy and our sovereign is King Charles. And he just got mad at me. He refused to pay.

He didn't give you $100? No. Broadster. He stormed off. Damn. And he was like, they're independent. Yeah, it's not true. And I was like, listen, I'm not like Ian.

I'm not going to claim there's a global British empire running the show for everything. Just because he is the King of Canada. But it is funny what Canada, what the crown did. They had the Commonwealth nations be independent, but then enact them as the crown with special constitutional provisions for removing their parliaments and their prime minister, to which they've done several times. Yeah. And then they say, no indeed i don't know man uh how long you think until elon and trump are friends again i i'm question like i question whether that's actually gonna happen because i think that the uh the donald trump is on epstein list i think that was the one that was over the line yeah that's hard to come back from yeah donald trump didn't say anything that i don't

see donald trump you know donald trump didn't say anything that I wouldn't expect Donald Trump to be able to turn over tomorrow. You know what I mean? To just totally be like, I don't know what you're talking about. That never happened. I love Elon. You know, there was nothing that, that, that Trump said that makes me think that Musk is like taking it personally throughout that barb and i do believe that he's actually serious about you know starting to decommission commission the uh the dragon capsules and stuff like that or what if you know elon was given some disinfo maybe he has been really sitting on this maybe he does believe it's real and maybe he does believe he's had blackmail on trump just waiting to use

it that's possible maybe let's jump who gave that to him who gave who gave that's what i want to know who gave you it's full of it there's nothing let's let's jump to the story we got this from patrick casey and actually says there's a lot of confusion about the big beautiful bill i'm gonna call it the omnibus because branding what matters most is that it constitutes the biggest single increase in immigration enforcement funding in u.s history here's what we got 75 billion dollars for ice that's crazy 45 billion for detention an 800 increase 10 billion of that will go towards expanding ice personnel 10 000 $14.4 billion toward deportation removal. Now on to CBP, which will get $60 billion over the next four years.

$46.5 billion will go toward completing the border wall. The bill also funds CBP facilities, hiring 8,000 new personnel. Take a look at that. Cracks down in illegals using Medicaid. The big beautiful bill makes immigration harder and costlier by raising fees on asylum applications, humanitarian programs, employment authorization, unaccompanied children, immigration court proceedings, and border visa processing. There's more immigration stuff in the bill, but that does it for the main stuff. Immigration aside, the bill also cracks down on welfare abuse. So I like all of this. I'm a fan. And my view on the big, beautiful bill, the omnibus is largely that, oh, Congress is doing an omnibus again. Oh, it increases the deficit again. Uh-huh. Yeah, they're stripping our buying power from us. It's really, really bad. We're not going to fix anything unless we actually succeed in a presidential agenda. Now, I like Trump's agenda.

Democrats don't have one. If Democrats win, they will just impeach Trump and then nothing happens. So I'm sitting here being like, yes, omnibus bills are bad. I'm totally against them. Yes, the deficit is bad. No, the deficit deficit should not be increased. However, I prefer Trump winning. Curious what you guys think. I do prefer the bill to pass. I think that there is an incentive in Congress to pass legislation that will actually enshrine the doge cuts into law. I think that that can happen after this bill gets passed. And I think that if this doesn't pass, you're going to see a problem in the stock market and the economy, and you're going to see a recession this year. So at least two consecutive quarters of shrinkage for the economy. So I think that the best move for the country is to pass this and address the other things in a separate bill.

Well, I think back to the, you know, because this is still in line with the Elon thing is, you know, originally when Trump won the election and then we had President Trump getting ready to take office. When they were developing the cabinet and kind of announcing what Doge was going to look like. Doge was supposed to finish when? July 4th, 2026. And I think last Friday when they had their Oval Office meeting at the White House, they looked like friends. But at the same time, President Trump did reiterate that, that we do have some Doge cuts, but we're not done with Doge. And this is going to still be going on for the next year year and a half because doge's work is not done now some somewhere in between obviously the the debt ceiling and the overspending that that's the argument you're hearing right now that blew up probably over the weekend and then these couple days into the week but you know my

my question is does elon believe that president trump cannot or will not deliver with what doge is planning to do with the what was it like one or two trillion dollars in cuts when it's all said and done i can't remember do you guys remember he was looking for two two right so i just the timing's interesting i'm i'm questioning the timing of everything because why would you agree to this from the get-go and then just kind of come out of nowhere? And now Trump's on the Epstein files. Like I don't know. It's just kind of way out of left field for me.

Like why would Elon Musk agree to Doge? It's going to wrap up by July 4th, 2026. But it's not going according to your timeline. But Trump is saying, well, we're going to get there. I mean I don't know exactly what, you know, what everyone's bad at everything they do and they have no idea what's going on. Yeah, it's it's ultimately I think it's ending up a reflection on on Trump's. I got I got to tell you, guys, Milo has been hitting it out of the park fire today. Yeah, he's been on. Well, for the past week. Let me actually pull up some of his tweets

on both of these issues for which he has excellent insights. So let me just scroll down real quick and grab, where are you at, Milo? Also, he was supposed to come on, then he just doesn't show up. Yeah, I texted him today. I'm like, hey, are you around?

To be fair, to be fair, we didn't book him. He hit us up at the last minute and said, hey, can I come by? We said yes, and then he didn't come by. So I don't want to make it seem like he canceled on us. He tweeted this. You see the kind of mess it makes when there are two dads? It's not natural.

That was a good one. It's Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. And then where's the other one? The other one he had was about the big, beautiful bill. Here's what he said, and he nailed it. In practical terms, claims about the economy and the federal government are now adjacent to fairy stories and horoscopes. I don't mind other people discussing them or daydreaming about them. I choose not to.

He's right. Nobody, this bill, it's, this country, congress and everything is so just psychotic it's it's it a train has crashed already none of this makes any sense or matters say whatever you want but whether or not this is going to increase or decrease choose your own adventure tons of accounts are saying the big beautiful bill actually decreases spending from the government because of the reduction in immigration costs. We're going to increase the budget for ICE, which is going to decrease the costs in a greater number by removing illegal immigrants who are straining the system. Therefore, the deficit goes down.

And then on the other side, the corporate press and people like Elon are saying, no, the deficit will go up because it will cut like 1.3 trillion, but increase something like 3.7. So it's going to increase the deficit i don't know pick your own adventure if you like trump i just just say nah i choose to believe trump can do no wrong i don't know that i agree that trump can do no wrong um and i do think that the the philosophically correct move is Musk's move, right? But the practically correct move is going to be Donald Trump because Donald Trump's worried about, you know, the reality on the ground, not, you know, something down the road.

No, Phil. Because as you can clearly see, I've proven it. Trump literally never did anything wrong because he is the nexus of morality. This means whether it is good is solely determined by whether Trump does it. When he does it, it is good. Well. That is the political ethos of muslim logic yeah um and i get i guarantee you the the the people who responded and ratioed the post literally have no idea that i'm being sarcastic the point is that trump does things that are wrong so this bill is is is not far from perfect but i do see what you're saying.

There is this viral post going around about Elon is being principled and Trump is being practical. And I think practical makes more sense and principled is revolutionary. Yes, we get it. You want to change the government. It's bad. All these bad things are happening. How do you plan on doing it? By standing outside waving a sign saying, I will not partake? Sure, that won't do anything, but I'm glad you told us. Now I know what you think. That and five bucks will get me a cup of coffee. Or we can try and reform the system like Trump is doing.

Yeah, I mean, in my opinion, that's the only thing that's going to work. Because if you try to, if you don't, if this bill doesn't go through, you're going to raise taxes significantly and you're going to end up with a recession. So that's going to be awful for millions of Americans. Yeah, I guess my biggest concern on all of this is that tomorrow the drama will be over and we'll be talking about something else, less fun and more boring. It's Friday. Tomorrow's Friday. Yeah, we can talk about aliens. We can talk about aliens.

Sasquatch. Well, we hit Sasquatch. We could probably hit some other cryptids, though. We could hit some cryptids. There's a cryptid. Me and Sarah are going to a cryptid fair on Saturday. Wait, what? Really?

What? There's really a fair. Well, it's West Virginia, man. It is. So I'll text her and I'll ask her. I like talking about Sasquatch because it's clearly not real, but just people are really excited about it all the time. It's a guy in a suit, but you know,

go at it. You know what I mean? It's exciting. We interviewed some people on Pop Culture Crisis who made a documentary about Sasquatches. And it was like, they're like- Sasquatches? Yeah.

Like a family? Yeah. Like a mom Sasquatch? Yeah. That makes perfect sense to me. I actually need to find the name of it because it slips my memory and I think they deserve a shout out just for the work they did on it

but I was so not sold on it well of course there's no such thing as a Sasquatch okay Sasquatch is a story your parents tell you to scare you when you're a kid well they're just they're low res creatures yeah yeah what's the thing around here called the

sheep Squatch they have a movie Sasquatch and the Missing Man it was Tony Merkle he was on Culture War we have the Grafton Monster West Virginia has all the cryptids and I wonder if that has something to do with the the Shape of Shadows was the documentary

recommend if you're looking for a laugh I think it was Bathtub Gin back in the day. You live in the middle of nowhere and you're slamming moonshine. You'll see a lot of things. A lot of crazy stuff. A lot of crazy stuff. This is how we round out

our discussion on Elon. Elon's a crazy guy. And it's crazy stuff happening in D.C. They're fighting, like, gay men. That's what it seems like. Scorched earth. Elon's going to tweet, Trump, your stuff is outside. Come get it.

Actually, that would be really funny if, like, outside of the White House there's a big box that says Elon on it. You saw what his office was? Oh, we got to do that. Did you see what his office was? All it was was like a desk and a computer. It was like a small office. We need to get a cardboard box full of just like old Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles t-shirts

and then just write Elon on it and film outside the White House. There you go. Hey, they threw his stuff out. All right, anyway, I'm done goofing off. We do have some big news, ladies and gentlemen. There's been a massive airstrike by russia on kiev this is the retaliation that putin had warned about russia launches aerial assault on kiev days after ukraine's audacious drone attack on bomber fleet and uh of course we have this clip here from

patriot oasis uh i don't know if you can just see the fire. Yeah. People are saying it's one of the most devastating attacks of the war so far. It's the most significant strike that we've seen in the war that they're they're ramping things up. And let me just say it. I said it before. I'll say it again. I believe that Ukraine is our actually our enemy, not our ally. Not that I think Russia is our ally or anything like that. We're certainly at odds with them. But let me stress, as I often have and will and love to, Germany, our ally in NATO, has accused the Ukrainian diving instructor, as well as two other Ukrainians, of bombing the Nord Stream pipeline that was delivering energy to Germany, our ally. Germany, our ally in NATO, was buying natural gas from Russia. So according to their arrest warrant, Ukrainians

blew up that pipeline to cut off energy to our ally. What do you call it? What do you like? Let's try this. What would you, hey Drew? Yes. What would you call a country that bombs your energy supply lines, bombs energy supply lines to your allies. Your enemy. Oh, heaven's me. So that's why I said it before. I'll say it now. Donald Trump ran in this country on ending the war and finding peace. He has been negotiating peace and Ukraine intentionally withheld information on this drone strike, escalating the war and then afterwards calling for a ceasefire. These people are unscrupulous. So now we have this breaking news.

It's just happening right now. Russian ballistic missiles and drones have been launched toward Ukraine from multiple directions. Fires caused by falling debris and drone strikes reported in buildings across Kiev. How do you say this? Kuchenko accused Russia of hitting residential areas of the drone attack, saying a high-rise building in the Solomiansky district of Kiev was damaged. Kiev's mayor, Vitaly Klitschko, also reported fires in the districts of, I'm, I'm, I'm sorry, I just, I'm not gonna pronounce that. Holosevsky and Darnitsky, hey, I tried.

The attack on the Capitol continues. Stay in shelters. I'm just going to go and say Trump cut them off 100%. Let's be done with it. I mean, I think that the fastest way to end the war, that might be the fastest way to end the war, but even if Trump decides that they get no more funding from the U.S., the rest

of the, of NATO is going to keep. Sure. Why are we involved? Well, yeah, I mean, that's fine with me, but I still think that, like I don't think that the U S ending the support is going to actually get us to where, where we want to be, which is, I mean it will get us outside of whatever it is they're doing. I don't give a crap about what's happening in Burma right now. So if Russia and Ukraine want to fight, whatever has nothing to do with us at this point, Ukraine, let me just say again, they are accused, okay, it's alleged, of bombing a pipeline supplying our allies with

energy. Why are we helping them? Well, I kind of feel like the previous administration helped them do the actual bombing. I wouldn't be surprised not not that i have any evidence of that but i i feel like they were like yeah if you go ahead it's fine yeah well trump ran on ending this war and here we are everything's escalated yeah i don't trump no it's just i think it it definitely you know nato escalating things potion poking the russian bear continually uh definitely, you know, a push back on backlash on Trump. And it also makes America look weak because if you have Trump in the White House that literally ran on promises of ending that war, now it's not happening. And so at the same time, you know, I mean, it has domestic implications as well. You know,

you have the midterms that are upcoming. Yeah. And the Republican Party has married itself to Donald Trump. And now they're going to come up. Now, this could pop up as something that is a failure on the GOP because Trump represented the GOP and vowed to end this war. It hasn't happened. But I agree with Tim. I'm just like really sick of hearing about Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine.

Like all my money keeps going there. I'm tired of it. Yeah. Hundreds of billions of dollars. Especially in the news. This is one of the issues Mary is most passionate about. She actually knows everything about the conflict. Just ask her any question.

Yeah. I'm here to answer anyone's questions. I know you guys aren't really informed on these issues. Yeah. How do you feel about the whole thing? Honestly? Yeah.

Do you have a feeling about the whole thing? I think I do. See, this is important. This is where Gen Z is at on the conflict. Mary, tell us. I'm supposed to represent how Gen Z feels about every issue, apparently. You're the quintessential Gen Z. On this show, I have to be the voice of my entire generation.

Yes, you are. Tell us. Do you support Ukraine, Gen Z? No. Okay, vindication, I guess. I mean, I got to be honest. Considering Russia just bombed the crap out of Kiev I would have figured at least there'd be something

to say about it this is a retaliation to something that Ukraine did which I assume the US signed off on privately well the reporting is that they kept it a secret from Trump specifically is that

is there evidence that they kept it a secret from the Trump administration? The U.S. is a secret. So you may be correct in that Biden signed off on it. And then Trump got into office saying, let's have peace. Zelensky was like, I ain't telling him what we're planning. They were planning for more than a year, right? Yeah, probably. So it's possible.

That's crazy work. I mean, everyone kind of knew that this was coming because of the attack that Ukraine just did. And, you know, look, I don't know what the best course of action would be. I'm not a military planner or anything, but for Ukraine, like, they kind of are in a position where they kind of have to keep fighting if they're not going to just surrender. And I don't see them surrendering because they want to get back. I've heard, what's his name, talking about getting back to Crimea, which

everyone knows that's not happening. That's not happening at all. They'll never happen. They're not even getting any of the existing territory that the Russians are in. That's all gone but but again like i was saying yesterday the drone strike by ukraine shows they've lost the war it's an insurgent strike launching drones inside of russia does nothing to help them win the war

it's only for causing pain to someone who's occupying your territory if ukraine had the resources to actually push on the war front and take back territory, that's where the focus would be. The fact that they did subterfuge inside of Russia, which is, it was a great operation, don't get me wrong,

it was very clever, but to be honest, it's kind of minimal. Some people are saying, Tim, you don't understand, those bombers for the Russians were being used to bomb Ukraine. Oh, so the troops on the ground who are holding the territory that Russia needs to maintain control of Crimea, who are not being moved, were not a target of the Ukrainians.

It's not more pressing to stop the men on the ground who are holding your land. No, they launched an insurgent insurgent strike covertly because this is what you do when you're in the resistance. When an occupying force comes in and you have you don't have the military strength to actually wage a battle and seize land, you you try to shock and annoy. You try to cause political strife. Hoping that they'll get pissed off. But, you know, I'll put it this way. Just answer me this. How does drone strikes on bombers inside of Russia change the landscape of the war in Ukraine? It doesn't. It literally doesn't. It doesn't at all.

So then what is the tactical warfare purpose of doing it? There's a political purpose. The idea being maybe we can force them to retreat by causing damage inside of their country. I don't even think that that doing it. There's a political purpose. The idea being maybe we can force them to retreat by causing damage inside of their country. I don't even think that that was it. I think they were just trying to signal to Europe that, hey, we're looking to keep fighting. So even if the U.S. doesn't support

us anymore, I think that, you know, we're looking to fight so you can keep sending us money and weapons. Maybe. I think it's more of a we lost, but we're going to hurt you anyway. I don't know if they're ready to say they lost yet. Well, Russia's held the entire land bridge into Crimea for, what, two and a half years now? Yep. But I don't think Zelensky's ready to say that he lost. Well, because he needs the gravy train to continue, too.

Well, it's not just that. It's the moment the war ends, he gets voted out. Yeah. And he might get killed. Yeah. You know, that's... Well, there's very few Ukrainians left. Relative... I mean, what I should say is, I think, what? They had 30 million people and 7 million fled

at the start of the war? Something crazy like that. They've run out of people to actually fight the war. They're running out of people to actually fight the war. You know? They've got women and they've got old guys. You know? 60-year-old dudes. And... Are they snatching women off the streets now like they do guys? I don't know if they're snatching and they've got old guys, you know, 60 year old dudes.

And are they snatching women off the streets now? Like they do guys. I don't know if they're snatching women. I haven't seen that, but I've seen that there are a bunch of women and look, if your homeland gets invaded, you know, everybody's like, everybody's going to pick up a gun. Like that's the way that it goes. If your actual homeland gets invaded and you want to defend it from the invaders, everybody's going to pick up a gun. But that's an that it goes. If your actual homeland gets invaded and you want to defend it from the invaders, everybody's going to pick up a gun. That's an important question

I have for you guys real quick. If the U.S. was invaded by a significant presence, like a serious threat to this country, how many Americans do you think would flee? Go to Mexico or some other country? I don't know. Millions. Well, of course, millions.

With Ukraine, they had something like 29 million people and 7 million fled the country immediately. That's a lot. Which is a tiny country. So for the U.S., maybe just the people who already live close to the borders. I don't think they'd flee the country, though, because I think the country is so difficult to even conceptualize an invasion that doesn't get stopped by the rockies or get stopped by the mississippi or like the the u.s landmass in and of itself is really really hard to take like to think of like conquering it like from an invasion get a beachhead and then go city by city it's a lot of area to take and there's a lot of places for people to escape to so

what yeah you can't so we can't hear you what did he say he just said everyone's got guns oh yeah well hey let's jump to this next story we got this one from vittorio on x he says holy ish it's happening you can now screen embryos for 900 diseases and traits, including cancer, heart disease, IQ, and Alzheimer's, before they're even born. You don't just pick a child. You rank them by longevity potential. That's right.

When you're doing IVF, they can actually genetically scan your baby and tell you the color of the eyes, the color of the hair, whether they're going to be smart. Take a look at this one. Embryo number two has plus four IQ points. This is the beginning of Gattaca, my friends. Yep.

Where this is it. I mean, they're going to start genetically engineering babies. Yeah. You've got all of these girl bosses who are... Drew, do you know about the Facebook sperm bank trend? Women are going on Facebook and creating communities asking for men to bang them and get them pregnant and leave. Because they're like, look, I'm in my mid-30s. I need to have a baby.

I can't wait around for a relationship. Just give me the baby. And so there are dudes that just go around banging all these women because the women, they don't even care about the guy who looks like, they're just like, I need a baby. I need a baby now. I'm running out of time. This kind of trend is also, in my opinion, going to lead to an increase in IVF where women just go to a sperm bank or whatever and get a sperm donor and then do IVF and they're going to choose. There's a great question that's due to ask, like, if you have the ability to check for Alzheimer's and other potential diseases, why wouldn't you? And if you do, why wouldn't you do more? This is just the first domino being knocked over.

And eventually it's going to be full on Gattaca. I want my kid to have perfect vision. I want my kid to be six, three. Uh, even if it's a girl, I want IQ plus 10, all of that. And that's one. You know what's funny about all this? When everybody was talking about how we were headed towards a 1984 or Brave New World or Fahrenheit 451, it was all of them. Yeah. It's every single nightmarish future dystopia that we wrote and written about all in one. I wonder if there's going to be people that are going to start protesting against it. Of course. written about all in one. I wonder if there's going to be people that are going to start protesting against, you know, of course, that do that, you know, because there are people that would call it an abomination and stuff. Well, the ethical disasters just keep multiplying for

IVF, for surrogacy, not only talking about the unborn who are discarded um or indefinitely frozen but also the children who are born out of this process are raising ethical concerns about just the psychological effects of knowing this is how you were brought into the world and this type of stuff was always the logical end of holding people emotionally hostage and saying why don't you want infertile married Christian couples to have children? Well, why don't you marry? That was always- Because clearly God said no.

Those loaded emotional questions were always used to justify this end. Did you see the story of the nurse who couldn't conceive, so they did IVF and then she died? I did not, no. The influencer nurse, I mean, it's a really sad story. It's brutal to read about. She died in childbirth. And a lot of the comments were from people saying,

God gave you an answer and you tried to defy him. Well, the rate of complications for IVF conceived births are incredibly high. And also for surrogates, particularly, I mean, they're not paid nearly enough, uh, just considering the risk that they're taking to their own lives because your body obviously recognizes you have a foreign genetic material inside you. If you're first of all gestating from an embryo that was both not your egg and yeah obviously that not your sperm so yeah more likely to have premature births birth defects no not anymore not when they're doing gattaca well that's that movie that's just a pitch for investors really they don't i don't know if they

fully followed through on the vision here but they say every parent wants to give their children more than they had for the first time in human history nucleus nucleus genomics adds a new tool to that commitment i'm pretty sure that uh they can already test the dna of a baby for all of these things and so the only thing here is they're basically saying if you're doing ivf we can find that out before you implant yeah so you know the big problem with this is when they do ivf they don't just put don't they implant like six embryos at once or something like that but yeah they just like blast a woman with a bunch of embryos and be like hope one works and then women have like triplets they harvest lots of eggs at once and uh i'm saying they implant they don't just put one embryo yeah they use a catheter to insert multiple because they know that not all of them are going to

survive i think that's why twins are more common with IVF because sometimes multiple survive. And it's just such a misnomer to even call them sperm donors. They're sperm sellers. And a lot of these companies prey on men who are likely candidates because they say, you know, you need the extra money, right? Especially during the pandemic, they were encouraging men to sell their sperm for extra cash. They were doing that. Why do we all wear the same thing?

Because it's low effort to look... No, I think it was because it was the death of Elon and Trump's romance. We're all mourning. We're all mourning. Drew, have you ever seen the movie Gattaca?

I've seen clips, but I haven't watched it in full. You've never seen it, have you? I have. You have seen it? Years ago. I mean, it's like... What is it? Who's the main guy?

Is it Ethan Hawke? What's that guy's name? Yeah. And he wants to be a pilot or something, but he's got bad eyes. So, like, you're a second-class citizen. Yeah. Too bad. What's that other movie they did didn't is there a disney movie about this uh really there's like some some young adult teen

like young adult dystopian movie where like at a certain age you get genetically modified to become pure or something like that yeah what was what was it? I don't know. That's not Alita Battle Angel, is it? No, no. Was it like a young adult book series? Disney? Maybe. It's like a movie or something. Like Divergent or something?

I bet the chat knows. In Time? In Time. No, that's not. Oh, wait. No, no, that's not Oh wait No no that's not it That's stupid Chetipatier's stupid

Those are both wrong You talking about that Logan Paul movie? Is it a Logan Paul movie? The one where they all take that test or whatever No I don't know Yeah I don't know There's some movie where it's like Maybe it's not out yet I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. There's some movie where it's like, maybe it's not out yet. I don't know.

Yeah, it's like when you're young, you're genetically normal, and at a certain age they put you through a machine that fixes everything, and then you can go live in the wealthy area now. Something like that. I think it is in time. No. In time is where you have time on your arm and time is currency. Okay.

Yeah. Sorry. Yes. Yeah. That's a totally different thing. That movie sucked. Yeah. It's unfortunate because people were saying it was like a good idea.

It's a cool concept, but it was bad. Yeah. Yeah. The movie sucked. I'm just sick of talking about the obvious ethical concerns around IVF and surrogacy and being told that I'm saying children conceived through IVF like don't deserve to live. Like that's just emotional manipulation. Yes. It's bullshit.

That's half of the discourse on the Internet nowadays, at least. Yeah. I mean, I have a bunch of this was actually back when Trump pre pre-election was saying he wanted to federally subsidize IVF. I don't know if there was any follow through on that. And I'm glad. But I was saying that was a huge issue for me. And people were sending me pictures of like, this is my grandchild conceived via IVF. And you're saying that they're a piece of

shit who doesn't deserve to live how dare you when that was very clearly not what I was saying and this is this is just par for the course if you have any criticism of it whatsoever and then you see the logical conclusion of that it's just eugenics. Well, yes. Well, I mean, all of this stuff is like, there's a lot of people that are very comfortable with eugenics and I think the future is going to be full of eugenics programs. And I think that that's something that people are going to want because people, they're going to be like, look, do I want to have my kid fall behind

when I can actually make sure that my kid gets, you know, every advantage out there? You know, that's something that people are going to be attracted to. Wouldn't you? Don't you think? Sure. Oh, yeah. So the chat got it for us. It was called the uglies.

Oh, okay. In a future society, everyone undergoes surgery at age 16 to become pretty, genetically modified to be beautiful and physically perfect. So it's an upcoming Netflix film. Thank you, Chad. We have the power of 67,000 people who can just give us the answers

to anything better than, you know what? What do I need AI for? I'm going to start a, I got it. I'm going to start a company, and I'm going to claim to be AI, but it's actually just TimCast IRL chat. And every answer is the USS Liberty. To be fair, that's not our chat. That's somebody

else's. It's someone else's chat. The uglies. Whenever you need an answer, you just say something wrong on the internet. What's the joke? It's like, how do you find the right answer on the internet post the wrong one yeah yeah that's how you do it that actually that was a really funny thing i think this actually happened where some there was a on like quora and stuff you'll like there will be a bunch of questions that never get answered someone will be like hey i'm trying to do

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It's going to be fun. But for now, we are going to grab your Rumble rants. All right. Shadid Swalder says from the IVF story earlier today, the real horror is that people are playing God with genetic engineering. Pick the perfect baby and kill the rest. The transhumanistic nightmare just gets worse. That's exactly what we're just talking about. Correct. Elder Zimriah says if Trump had already invoked the Insurrection Act to take care of the immigrants and judges, nobody would have taken Elon seriously. Did he invoke the Insurrection Act to take care of the immigrants and the judges?

Well, I'm saying that it overrides the judges. To deal with the problem of judges, you invoke the Insurrection Act and just bypass them. Although, I do think Trump was actually planning for that. Jay Dirtbiker says, per TimCast tradition, I am writing this rant from the delivery room of the hospital patiently awaiting the arrival of my first child. Can't wait to meet my baby girl. Hashtag have more babies.

Congrats. Yep. My kid is now moving her head. Great milestone in being a baby. Yep. Well, because for a while their heads are flopping around all crazy, you know. They can't move them.

Now she can. And she's like. Looking at the world. Yeah. Looking at the world. Looking at stuff and then complaining about it. Making after her dad. Let's go.

Annie P13 says, Democrats wouldn't have released files if Trump was in there come on you mean Democrats would have released the files if Trump was in there I think that's what they mean Hans1PK says Mary does nothing ever happen I guess things happen but nothing ever changes

as a result that's why I say nothing ever happens it's a micro change you know actually no I agree with Mary I completely agree we were just talking about this before the show that's why I say nothing ever happens. It's a micro change, you know? Actually, no, I agree with Mary. I completely agree. We were just talking about this before the show. I was in Winchester,

and I saw a gaggle of Gen Z women, and they were dressed like emo kids from 2003. And I was like... The big black cargo pants that they were wearing. I think one of them was. The studded belt. Jankos. Well, they're not Jankos, but they're made to look like trip pants. The trip pants that were sold at Hot Topic. Probably one of them was. Studded belt. Jankos. Well, they're not Jankos, but they're made to look like trip

pants. The trip pants that were sold at Hot Topic. Probably one of them. The studded belts. Yeah, all that stuff. Yeah, and the chokers and everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was just like, why are they dressing the way like me and my friends used to dress? We're old. We don't do that anymore. It's funny because I feel like that used to signal that

you had a certain value system or music taste or something like that or belong to a subculture or social circle but it doesn't signal any of those things anymore like those girls probably listen to Sabrina Carpenter and like they just dress like that because that's what's in it proves my point I keep I've been saying this we are not going to see the cultural shift with the next generation the way we've, we've seen it with every previous generation. The reason why music trends changed was because the younger generation was always bigger than the previous generation. cheeseburger salesman. And like there's a bunch of 20-year-olds. There's two times as many 20-year-olds as 40-year-olds. All of my marketing is going to be targeting

the 20-year-olds. So when you're making music, what are you selling? Whatever it is the biggest market share wants. There's no young people anymore. So the biggest market share is still millennials and older Gen Z. So what happens? biggest market share is still millennials and older Gen Z. So what happens? Hot Topic is still open because millennials still shop there.

Spencer's is still open because millennials shop there. Then what happens? Some Gen Z young kid goes to the mall and what do you have to buy? Hot Topic. There's no Gen Z centric store because there's not enough Gen Z or Gen Alpha to buy any of this stuff. Have you been in a Hot Topic as of late? It's not really what it used to be. They sell like Funko Pops and anime figurines. Uh-huh. That's always been the case. Yo, it's wild when I go in there. They're not really selling, it's not like band tees.

Like, yes, they have them. It was never like that. Or the same thing. You'd go in there, they'd have a Batman logo, they'd have Nightmare Before Christmas has been in the window of Hot Topics for 32 years. Still there. Oh, they're selling Twilight merch as well. Exactly.

Because it's just whatever millennials were into because that's the bigger market share. And so, you know, young people are told what to like and they like it. And I'm not saying this of Gen Z or Gen Alpha. It's literally when millennials were young, music was made and young people were told this is the music you can listen to. And it was put on the radio. It was made to target a new demographic. Older people were like, put on the classic rock station. I want to listen to music that I like. But there were more young people to listen to the new pop songs and to be attracted to new music. Now it's not there anymore. So when you go to the mall,

they're just going to say, who buys the most stuff, millennials? Not only is Gen Z small, but they're broke too. So what happens? The Gen Z that does want to buy stuff, what can they buy? Whatever it is millennials like.

That just means that we're stuck with millennials for the rest of our lives, which is- Millennials is the last. No joke. When millennials are 60, you're going to go to the mall, and it's going to be Nightmare Before Christmas. And millennials have enough money to buy Funko Pops, just not houses. Yeah. They're buying tickets to the When We Were Young Fest.

They don't have money for that. I couldn't believe it. Auzzo. Pokemon cards. No beef to Bayside, because I'm a fan, but I don't really listen to them anymore. But I saw one of their videos where they have like 5,000 to 10,000 people screaming and cheering when we were young. And I'm just like, damn, Bayside bringing in those ticket sales.

Have you seen what the All-American Rejects is up to lately? No. All the house party shows? Yeah, they're on a house party tour where they're doing a bunch of free shows leading up to a real tour where they're opening for the Jonas Brothers, actually. But there are a bunch of Zoomers going to these house party shows that are free

and they're listening to the All-American Rejects for the first time because they didn't grow up listening to that band. It's like the first time they'd heard of the All-American Rejects. Want sugar-cultivated comeback. Because they just want to go to parties like zoomers are just like whoa like they're commenting on these tiktok saying like this is like those parties that are like in the movies yeah i've watched i want to go to one of those looks like people are finally having

fun like outside you know the world is millennials are like the luckiest generation, I guess. In a lot of ways. We had the 90s. It was great. Massive economic expansion, the end of the Cold War, just goofing off, being lazy, getting the internet. And now they didn't have any kids. So Gen Alpha's cooked.

And Gen Z, because Gen Xers weren't having a lot of kids. So Gen Z is a little bit smaller than millennials. That means that older Gen Z are going to still be... Like, this is the trend. Older Gen Z did not get new culture the way generations typically do. So they were attracted to Millennial stuff, creating a massive Millennial marketplace. And there's... Millennials are permanent children.

They don't have kids. So what's going to... Millennials are going to enjoy everything forever. The other example I brought up is the Tony Hawk remaster. They tried making Tony Hawk 5. It crashed. So they're like, we'll remake 1 and 2. And millennials were like, oh, anybody remember this gem?

You remember this? We're in the remake era. With movies, video games. But this is why the With movies, video games. They're making, but this is why the Disney movies are flopping. And I think the Harry Potter thing is going to flop too. Oh, for sure.

Because they made Snape black. Snape is supposed to be a gangly, scrawny white guy. Yeah. What happens is, so look, I told my wife, I was like,

yeah, they're remaking Harry Potter and she goes, why? The movies were perfect. And I was like, I think remakes are fine to do and if they do it as a wife, I was like, yeah, they're remaking Harry Potter. And she goes, why? The movies were perfect. And I was like, well, I think remakes are fine to do. And if they do it as a series, you've got seven seasons that can be more fleshed out with more episodes. And she was just like, yeah, but when they made those movies, the CGI and technology was good to make them good.

You don't need to remake them the way we did before because movies didn't have the technology. So they remake movies now with new CGI stuff. Update them with, yeah. So the issue I see, okay, my wife's a millennial. I am. We're the Harry Potter base. We grew up with this. We're not going to watch the HBO Harry Potter series.

Is it because of the Snape race swap or something else? I feel like you wouldn't have watched it anyway, but the Snape race swap is just the cherry on top of a shit cake. It's probably the icing on the shit cake. Yeah. More than just the cherry. I think they also race swapped Hermione, but that's not like... But only a little bit. One way or the other. Yeah, it's like only a little bit. Only slightly. It's like a little swarthy,

but that's okay. Hard to tell. The thing is that Snape is described as this gangly, long-haired white dude. And they've just really changed it. This is why Little Mermaid flopped. I want to see Ariel. I want to see, when I was a little kid, I saw Little Mermaid and there's Ariel.

And then they said, we're not going to give you that. We're going to have a young black woman play Ariel. And I said, okay, that's fine. Make whatever movie you want. That's not the nostalgia- nostalgia feeling millennials were looking for. They were looking for their childhood to come back and you did not give that to them. I got no beef with that young one who did the movie.

She's a great singer, congratulations. You got to be in a Disney movie, but the movie flopped. And I think it's because millennials were like, I'm not buying that. And Gen Z ain't big enough and Gen Alpha ain't big enough to actually maintain that market.

Additionally, why are the Marvel movies flopping? It's not just because they tried getting woke in that last period. It's because the Marvel movies took off with Chris Evans, Hemsworth, and Robert Downey Jr. Now they're gone. They're bringing back. That's right. And they're going to make money when they do. And I think they're giving Robert Downey Jr.

like $100 million or something. I think for two movies. Yeah. For Secret Wars and Doomsday. And I'm going to go see them. I really don't want to see Fantastic Four. I can't stand Pedro Pescal. It's the Mary Sue Storm movie.

I don't care about that. I care that Pedro Pescal is like in every single movie all the time. Well, he's the perfect beta male. That's why he's cast in everything. I guess. But he's not. He is the guy you walk over in all these movies. He's a terrible Reed Richards.

What are they doing? What's the name of the actor they got in the multiverse movie? The play Reed Richards? I don't remember. Oh, from The Office. Yeah. He was great. Yes.

And it's just like everybody was really excited because that was a fan choice and then they had him do a brief cameo and then he's gone and now they're like, don't worry,

Pedro Pascal's coming back and we're like, ugh. So I actually think Fantastic Four will do bad. That's my bet. What do you think it'll do? Did you watch Thunderbolts?

Agreed. Yes. And it did bad. Yeah, it flopped. Yeah. Which Thunderbolts yes and it did bad yeah it flopped yeah which is I mean it did 350 million

that's crazy I thought I heard ticket sales for Fantastic Four the pre-sales were good are they I mean it's it's an established

well-known brand but you had a Captain America movie an Avengers movie because they changed the name to New Avengers right so you technically have an Avengers movie, an Avengers movie, because they changed the name to New Avengers.

Right. So you technically have an Avengers movie. Yeah, but come on. If that would, listen, if that were to have come out in the era you're talking, the golden age of Marvel, it would have blown up. Well, to be fair, but see what happens is- Back to back to back flops is very bad for Marvel right now. And it's been.

I think that's why they're freaking out. Well- Aside from Deadpool and Wolverine, which was huge for Marvel right now. And it's been. They're freaking out. Aside from Deadpool and Wolverine, which was huge for them. But that's only technically Marvel. Yeah. Because Fox just sold and all that stuff. And that was nostalgia. Right.

That's why it worked. But Ryan Reynolds is fantastic. So Deadpool works. It was like one of the only successful Fox Marvel things they did. The issue is that the MCU died with Captain Marvel. That is when the MCU died. Now you may be saying, but hold on, wait a minute. Endgame came out and got $2 billion. Indeed. And Captain Marvel ruined it and people stopped watching after that. That's when it went. They thought that Brie Larson would replace Robert Downey Jr. And it was so shockingly, I'll be nice, stupid. Everyone hated her.

It didn't work. And then they had to erase her. So Captain Marvel did like a billion dollars. And the only reason it did is because everyone wanted to see Endgame and they wanted to know how the story was going to tie into it because it was like a prequel. And then they saw how awful it was. I remember when Pirates of the Caribbean 2 came out,

I went to see it opening. I did not go see Pirates of the Caribbean in theaters. I was hanging out with my friends, and then someone was like, hey, have you guys seen Pirates of the Caribbean? And I was like, no. They played it, and I went, oh my God, that movie's amazing. And I saw it in some dude's living room.

So when the second one came out, I was like, we gotta go see part two. And it sucks. It was awful. It makes no sense, and there's living room. So when the second one came out, I was like, we got to go see part two. And it sucks. It was awful. There's like, it makes no sense and there's no ending. And then I saw the commercials where it's like the number one movie in America. I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no. Pirates one is the number one movie in America. Everybody's wants to relive that good movie. So they're going to see this crappy one and that's exactly what happens nobody so people want to go see captain marvel because everybody liked the previous mcu movies captain marvel was so bad the sequel bombed avengers endgame i said it before there were two moments when the entire the entire theater i was in groaned you know those were? Brie Larson on screen. When Brie Larson gets headbutted by Thanos but doesn't

flinch, everyone, oh, like, come on. Cringe. Even the strongest heroes get hit and take a hit. It was super cringe. And then when all the women started like, she's not alone, and they all stand up and it does all the, the whole audience started groaning. And I'm like, that was

the end. That's when, you know, and Kevin Feige went and fired all the woke people and he's trying to bring it back, bring back Robert Downey Jr., try and save his fractured, broken franchise. Now they're just burning money on it. Sad. Anyway, let's read Super Chats. What say you, good audience? His name was John Krasinski. Yes, yes, yes. He was great. Although it was really dumb how he's like i'm gonna grab wanda oh no i exploded what are you doing anyway percent time says tim you didn't read my super chat last night about being in the delivery room so now i'm asking you to shout out the

newest member of my family my daughter katherine diane shout out welcome to the world all right more babies out. Welcome to the world. Alright. More babies. What have we here? Mark Jadetti says, Elon needs rehab. Deport Bannon. This is his fault. How is it Bannon's fault? Common Sense Fishing says, hate to say I told you so, but I super chatted

this a long time ago. Reminded everyone Trump was president when Epstein bid it. Also possible reason why they now say it's all self-harm and haven't released the list. EV issues. I mean, a lot of people were saying that. When Bongino was like, he killed himself. It was like, does it incriminate Trump? That's why you're saying this?

But Cash seems pretty stone-faced. Like, look, I've seen it. It's not what you want it to be. I just want him to release it. Yeah, but seen what? Seen what was left behind for you to see and now you're telling us? I don't even care about that. Just release the documents.

Epstein could be on a private island with a body double taking his place for all I care as long as you give us the evidence. Yeah, we want the files. I mean, to be fair, it would be bad if Epstein is still alive. I'm just saying. The concern is not that.

It's like, sure, we want to know, but we want the list. We want the clients. Anyway. Who was raping children and why are they in jail? James Arrenson says, does nothing ever happen now, ghost girl? What kind of clap back is that? Because of the beef on the timeline today? Is that a happening?

Because of the drama on the timeline. All right. Sean Coon says, there is no MAGA civil war. It's an engineered narrative. PR, the Epstein list is a red herring. I don't know about that. Robert Pointer says, MAGA is not Trump. I think Trump and the RNC should have backed the Doge mission and not chosen inflation and pork.

That being said, they are both acting like children and the adults have left the room. It's not inflation and pork. I mean, there is pork in there yes but um like inflation is right now like i said it's it's at the lowest point it's been since inflation started running with coat at the end of covid right like this the numbers like 2.1 which is exactly where the the fed wants it um and i don't think that you know enshrining the tax cuts as permanent is going to make inflation worse. Common Sense Fishing says Trump messing up. No Epstein file release, no info on drones, no actual cuts to spending.

Big B spending bill is anti-American. It's two trillion in debt. House of Cards. Yeah. What info on drones are you talking about? The ones that were going over Jersey? Yeah. I thought that most people were of the opinion that the all the focus on the drones in jersey was because there was a research

uh a university was doing drone research i think and that was the initial sightings yeah uh it was a government contract for drone testing which which were the larger drones yeah those sightings resulted in people launching their own drones commercial ones to search for other drones which resulted in people spotting those drones and then some people thought planes were drones i thought that i thought that uh there was a lot of uh that was when the biden administration uh pardoned hunter i thought they would the the media kind of was like focusing on the drones and all the stories so that way maybe hunter biden's story was kind of snuck out in there he's like oh yeah he did you know don't pay attention though but anyhow okay steve x says looks like elon agreed not to decommission the

dragon just announced an axe he agreed for the better of america uh what is this i can't read your name is it gonna pop up you should have had a snack before he got on twitter they both should have they should have both had a nice big, big mac and some fries. The dad from beyond says Marvel is dying, but DC seems to be on the rise. Thoughts on the upcoming Superman film? Well,

I don't know, but I am, I think Nathan Fillion as Guy Gardner is going to be epic. And I really love the scene. We've not seen a lot, but the scene where he's walking and he flicks the hand to take out the trucks was great, Guy Gardner. I think Crypto was a bad choice, and there's a reason why we don't include the children's TV show version of Superman in our movies. But fine, I guess.

So I'm excited for it. I do think I'm a fan of Mr. Terrific. Great character. Really excited to see him on the big screen. So I'm definitely going to go see the new Superman. You're going to go to the movies to see it? Absolutely. Definitely. Yeah, opening previews.

I just love the Guy Gardner, Nathan Fillion. I'm excited for that. I think he'll do a great job. There were people complaining about his haircut. It's like, that's the comic book real. It's Guy Gardner. I'm excited to see him he's gonna be great yeah i don't know about the hawk man and hot girl stuff or whatever but uh i thought um i think peacemaker was a great show and so uh they're they're they're combining the shows

in the movies now trying to make their own little universe i guess but i'm a fan i think the peacemaker show was good i didn't see i enjoyed it yeah uh the the reboot of suicide squad was okay peacemaker was good and uh they got guy gardner nathan phillings got gardeners in peacemaker season two yeah oh yeah i think it was the hollywood reporter i can't remember but i i do think that he's focusing on like a six to ten year expanded universe starting with this new superman yeah if it goes well i i think marvel i've always been a bigger fan of dc than marvel so uh it's always been disappointing to see how they flubbed all the movies wonder woman was good but man did they kind of screw shazam was good okay so i'll give them those but man they really

screwed them all up i I liked Man of Steel. Yeah. I liked the Justice League stuff, especially the Snyder Cut, even though it's four hours. I thought it was cool they had Doomsday in it. Oh, yeah. You had to.

That was the problem. Darkseid was in the Snyder Cut, too. Sorry, go ahead. Right. No, the problem with the theatrical release was that Steppenwolf was the main villain, and it's like, who? Yeah, exactly. And they basically tried to do Infinity War.

You know, this is the problem with Justice League. They were like, can we do Infinity War before Marvel does? Like the mother boxes and Darkseid? No, you can't. You need to do the individual movies to establish the characters and force them to come together. Yep. No, they didn't do that. It's dumb, but still.

Like, I think that Henry Cavill's like the best Superman come together. Yep. No, they didn't do that. It's dumb, but still. I think that Henry Cavill's the best Superman possibly ever. Yeah, yeah. He was great. And Batman v. Superman was a huge error. Look, man, I thought that movie was good, too. Why did you say that name? I like that movie as well. It's okay, but he's like,

you're letting him kill Martha. My take on that is a a little kid be like, your mom is named Martha. That's my mom's name. We could be friends. Yeah. Like what? You're just trying to kill him.

This is lazy, right? You know, but what was miserable, but miserable about it is that they should have just followed the comic. And that is Superman points the spear. I'm sorry. Batman points the kryptonite spear at Superman and says,

let this be the day. You never forget the day I defeated you, and then throws the spear away and then helps him up. Because the point was, you are not invincible, and I can destroy it any moment, never forget. Instead, he was like, wait, your mom is the same name as my mom? Why am I trying to kill you? We got so much in common.

Some lame stuff. Very lame. Some lame stuff happened. Some lame stuff happened. But overall, I still like the movie. I like Ben Affleck as Batman. I think that Henry Cavill was the best Superman going. I mean, overall, I was pleased.

I was entertained. Yeah. All right. Jacob Schmidt says, When you have a population having kids through in vitro, bad traits aren't bred out, and vanity traits may be selected. Then the state is required to have the kids for the rest of time. Well, the issue that I see with it immediately is that we don't, the problem we have right now is

we don't know the direct correlation between certain traits. So that may mean right now that like, hey, you know, minus 20% hypertension. That's good. I want that kid. And then it turns out later that that correlates with an increase in brain cancer or something. So I do think AI will sort all that stuff out after we get the data. Meaning after people start choosing for these things and they can correlate hypertension with cancer, then the AI is going to be like, oh, by the way.

Yeah. Still not going to be like, oh, by the way. Yeah. Still not going to be for generations. Generations. You won't find out who actually has like, or what genes you can turn on and turn off without.

Right. I guess by generations, it's just going to be years. So after five years, they may have enough data. Actually, no, you're right. Some of these cancers may not come to fruition for 40 years. You have to wait until they actually get older. Indeed.

The Glower Deluxe says, I'm a single late Gen Z. Don't take my goth girls, I swear to God. Yours? You took them from us. Cringe. Don't be silly. Don't be silly. Michael Edkin says,

Trump froze the United for Ukraine visa program. My I-134A humanitarian parole visa for my fiance is paused because of Trump's executive order, and the K-1 visa has taken a while. My fiance's city was just hit by two rockets. I mean, it's miserable. I feel bad. I don't think Russia should have invaded Ukraine and all that,

but I just don't think we should be involved, especially if Ukraine's attacking us. That's crazy. I wouldn't be surprised if Ukraine false flag attacked us and tried to blame russia he zelensky keeps saying russia's gonna attack america i really hope i really hope that's outside of the realm of possibility well according to germany it was several ukrainians who bombed the nordstream pipeline yeah so that is our ally having their energy access cut off by. Didn't Biden say something like, you know, if Putin does whatever, then he's going to have to deal with, you know, we'll make sure that the pipeline isn't working or something like that. I thought Biden made some kind of remark like that as well.

Which is part of why people thought that it was the U.S. that actually sabotaged it in the first place. When it right after it happened, there were a lot of people that were saying, oh, it was probably the SEALs. It was probably the SEALs. See, Biden said this, blah, blah, blah. And they would bring up the clip, you know, tweet it.

All right. X10 Man says, is Mary the ghost of Ukraine? The ghost of Kiev? Oh, yeah. The ghost of Ukraine? The ghost of Kiev? Oh, yeah. The fighter pilot? Yes. I moonlight as a fighter pilot. Zero News says, in regards to cryptids, check out the game Horrified.

Okay. Or Fallout 76. Fallout 76 is based in West Virginia. And a lot of the big monsters are literally just in West Virginia and a lot of the big monsters are literally just the West Virginia cryptids. Only they're saying the radiation caused them.

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