Timcast IRL - Marijuana LEGALIZATION IS COMING, Trump Orders Weed To Schedule 3 In HUGE Move w/ Kraig Smith
Episode Date: December 19, 2025Tim, Phil, Ian, & Tate are joined by Kraig Smith to discuss Trump announcing Marijuana to be reclassified as Schedule 3, RFK Jr not scheduled to speak at America Fest 2025, the GOP looking to ban chil...d sex changes in a new bill, and Trump announcing a new "Patriot Games" competition. Hosts: Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) Ian @IanCrossland (everywhere) Tate @realTateBrown (X) Producer: Serge @SergeDotCom (everywhere) Guest: Kraig Smith @theekraigsmith (Instagram)
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Donald Trump has signed, was the wrong chair?
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Donald Trump signed an executive order,
and it's ordering the reclassification of marijuana from Schedule 1 and Schedule 3,
which is like testosterone, ketamine, and Tylenol with codeine,
which is a dramatic reduction.
The expectation is this is moving towards full legalization,
but Trump did he said, no, we're not going to legalize it.
And I think the reality is conservatives don't want it legalized.
Is it still a major move Donald Trump is making?
It's going to allow research.
It's going to allow.
allow broad medicinal marijuana prescriptions.
So it's kind of a big deal.
And then we got, oh, this is crazy,
that shooting at MIT, that Fusion Professor,
may be linked to the other shooting
that was recently at Brown.
And then we got Marjorie Taylor Green's Bill,
which passed the house saying,
no more sex changes for kids.
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all that remains. I'm an anti-communist and counter-revolutionary. Let's get into it.
Here's the big news, my friends from CNN politics. Trump signs executive order expediting
marijuana reclassification after lobbying from the cannabis industry. Oh, boy.
Now, it doesn't legalize marijuana, but it's reducing it in the schedule for it. So if you don't
know what that means. Schedule 1, it's insane drugs. It's like cocaine and heroin. But now it's
being moved off that list to Schedule 3, which is basically like testosterone or Tylenol with
codeine, which is still a prescription thing, but it's not that crazy. Quote, this reclassification
order will make it far easier to conduct marijuana-related medical research, allowing us to
study benefits, potential dangers, and future treatments, Trump said in the Oval Office, it's going
to have a tremendously positive impact. The order, which directs Attorney General Pam Bondi to hasty,
in the process of loosening federal restrictions, but does not include a timeline comes after
an intense lobbying campaign from the cannabis industry. I've never been inundated by so many people
as I have about this particular reclassification, Trump said. It's currently considered Schedule 1,
along with heroin, LSD, and Ecstasy, which are not considered of any acceptable medical use,
according to the DEA, it will eventually be reclassified as a Schedule 3 drug, which according to the
DEA will have, well, has a moderate to low potential for physical and psychological dependence.
The facts compel the federal government to recognize that marijuana can be legitimate in terms of
medical applications when carefully administered. In some cases, this may include the use as a substitute
for addictive and potentially lethal opioid painkillers, Trump said, calling the move common sense.
I think it's politically very good for Trump and the Republicans. I'm not the biggest fan of
marijuana legalization. Although, I don't think it should be Schedule 1. I think that if we enable
mass marijuana across the country, I think you're going to get a lethargic population. You've
already got a decaying culture. I'm still a little bit more libertarian on this one, so I think it should
be largely, you know, I guess decriminalized. But I have concerns about what's already happening
to a crumbling empire and society when we then throw pot on top.
And then what was it that South Park said?
It makes you okay with being bored.
And then when you get older, you'll find you're not good at anything.
I don't think that's good for this country.
Yeah, I'm in agreement.
I mean, I'm generally considered one of the resident prudes here at Timcast.
So I have a disposition against marijuana generally,
but I actually do sympathize with the argument being made by the Trump administration.
Schedule one seems a bit crazy in many regards, putting it on the same tiers,
one of these sorts of things. I can be persuaded on sort of the medical argument. The more I learn
about it, the more I'm like, okay, that does make sense in these applications. But I do share
Tim's fears that, obviously, total legalization. I don't think contributes to any sort of positive
developments in the United States. I think the way things are heading in the United States,
I don't know if legalizing marijuana and mass would really contribute to anything beneficial in any
ways. I don't know that's probably an unpopular take with the Tim guest audience. But I do agree
with Tim, I think you see like in the Netherlands where they've gone a full legalization,
the pitch that was made to the Dutch people was, you know, the worry about like adolescents,
you know, with their marijuana usage.
But then as soon as it was legalized, it spiked dramatically among adolescents.
It became very normalized throughout society.
And then this became, I know the big-haired church ladies, they catch a lot of ire,
but they're typically right in a lot of these things.
It does end up leading kids, specifically kids, into a more hard drug culture.
With adults, it's slightly different, but the priority here is obviously adolescence.
I don't even think Ian smokes pot.
Look at them.
Oh, I like pot.
I do.
It's just, you got to balance it out.
You got to be kidding me.
What a shock.
I mean, it's potent.
It's a potentially destructive and dangerous chemical THC, especially when it's out of balance.
Like a lot of the modern weed is like been cultured and grown and such that it's 27, 28,
29% THC levels, whereas it used to be like 13.
And then it's out of balance with the amount of CBD.
So CBD is really the healing chemical, fat of marijuana, cannibidial.
I think it's high-pronounce it.
I mean, they both have healing properties.
But the out of balance, this makes people, I think, paranoid.
They're crazy.
They think too much.
They're nervous.
Like, that's not good.
And it's very easy to overdose on that stuff, man.
Like a puff, you don't really need a lot of that potent psychoactive to get the real benefits from it.
I don't have a particular strong argument against any of the points being made.
here, but I do think that it's worth noting a lot of states have decriminalized it now.
And I think that because the states have kind of spoken and made it clear that the majority
of the country wants it to be at least decriminalized, I do think that it's good that the federal
government's responding to that.
Now, again, I don't have, I don't think that any of the points you guys are making about what
it does to young people, about the ramifications of it are wrong.
But I do think that if the states are going to say, look, we don't want to see, we don't
want to put people in jail and waste the resources going after potheads.
I think it's good that the federal government's responding to me.
You look like you smoke pot.
I don't smoke pot.
Oh, I was wrong.
But here's the thing.
Comedian doesn't smoke.
I like the government selling weed over people, you know, in the hood.
You know what I mean?
Where I grew up like guys would actually spray PCP on weed and sell it to people as a higher
grade of weed.
And so, you know, I know a few people that actually thought they were smoking marijuana
and lost their minds after they smoked it, they were never the same.
You know what I mean?
So, you know, I agree with the regulation on marijuana.
If I was a guy in the street selling it, I wouldn't agree with it.
But, I mean, I see the benefit.
I thought earlier today is something you kind of mentioned, Phil,
that this might actually free up resources for these guys to go after a legal immigration.
Like, I wonder if that was a lot of plan.
Yeah, probably.
The issue is to Phil's point where it's like a state-by-state basis is typically the pitch
that's made from these state governments when they were trying to pass legislation to legalize marijuana
is the pitch they make to conservative.
who are on the fence about it, they could be persuaded one way or another.
Typically, the pitch that's made is, hey, this generates a lot of tax revenue for the state.
We can start taxing marijuana.
But the issue that we saw in Colorado is that they didn't factor in these social costs that would come with legalizing marijuana.
So Colorado is a great example.
They ended up finding that for every dollar of tax revenue that was generated from marijuana purchases,
it costs $4.50 to the Colorado state government and health care, law enforcement, like,
education, you know, the state has to provide education around marijuana, you know,
property issues or things.
I take it back.
I'm for marijuana legalization now.
I just realize, like, conservatives aren't going to smoke it.
Like people on the right and people who are actually, you know, more studious, hardworking
and meritocratic, they're probably not going to smoke it.
And then all these liberals are going to get high off their asses all day, and it's going to
make them like okay with being bored and not being involved in politics.
So all these far left whack jobs will be just be stoned and sent on the kind of
couch and then they'll get out of the way.
Fair enough.
That's probably the best argument I've heard yet.
Give the people what they want.
I think that at the end of the day,
this is something that by the Constitution,
there's not really any kind of authority
for the federal government to say you can't do this.
It is a state's rights issue, in my opinion.
And again, I'm not arguing with any of the points made
about whether it's good for people or not.
I just think that the federal government
shouldn't be deciding whether or not people can do this.
I think that alcohol is every bit as destructive.
And, you know, the general consensus is people should be able to have a drink if they want.
Well, do you support the Maha regime?
I'm not, like, I'm not typically a Maha guy.
I mean, not that I'm against the Maha guys.
I just don't have like any kind of like, yeah, let's go.
Because I mean, Maha is an indication of like, okay, we're applying regulation for the health of people.
Yeah, I mean, I understand a lot of the stuff that they're doing.
And again, I don't have, I was never, like, I didn't come to the right because of Maha.
You know what I mean?
It's like, I've, I've been a right-leaning guy for, even when I was a libertarian guy,
I was a right-leaning libertarian.
Yeah.
No, I mean, that's consistent.
Yeah, because I was like, if you can see that Maha obviously is within the realm of the
government, then you would have to apply that standard of marijuana.
Bro.
Doesn't really vibe me.
No, I'm just agreeing with you.
Oh.
Oh.
I was like, I thought it's like someone.
Agree behind you.
That is their tower got hit.
I was like,
well.
I'm reading the way pot heads agree.
Bro.
Bro.
What about the people in prison because of the old marijuana legislature?
Do they get their restitution back or are they reimbursed for the time?
No,
they get extra time.
They get 10 more years.
No,
I actually said this five years ago when Trump was running.
I said he should pardon nonviolent pot convictions at the federal level so long as they
weren't pleading down from a violent offense.
Yeah.
So the idea is Trump comes in and,
and basically says, look, I'm the president.
If you were arrested for distribution and there's no other, like, you couldn't have taken a plea deal,
you're pardon, bam, rubber stamp.
He would have won overnight.
Right.
I said he should have brought on Tulsi Gabbard.
Look what he ended up doing.
He never did this.
I said he should have brought on Andrew Yang for economic advisor because that was huge with, like,
Rogan's crowd.
Yeah.
The UBI stuff, not that I'm a fan of it.
But these ideas were palatable and Trump could have shown a willingness to be bipartisan.
But more importantly, the big point was,
And it's funny because in the context of me saying 40, was it 49 state landslide?
I said if Donald Trump legalizes pot or and or vacates or pardons all of these nonviolent pot convictions, landslide, 49 state landslide.
He's going to crush it.
Look what he's doing now.
These are movies to make it because we're entering a midterm year.
So he's doing this.
And he's doing a bunch of other things.
He's doing that sporting event.
He made Christmas now three holidays.
Was it four?
It's Eve and the day after.
So Boxing Day.
We know Boxing Day guys.
These Brits are slowly creeping back in.
What's going on?
It's Christmas Eve and Christmas Day.
Boxing Day.
And after Christmas.
Three days.
I mean, look,
the left is got to love this just because of the fact that they like days off.
Right.
That's true.
To cut the work the week down to 30 hours.
They can't complain about it.
No, I supported the day after being a federal holiday until I saw the British saying,
oh, the American is getting boxing day.
I'll work.
That's fine.
I'll clock in. That's ridiculous.
So I'm going to jump to this because Amfest is currently happening.
And I'm not intentionally trying to drag them,
but we were in this conversation about the legalization of marijuana.
And this was brought to my attention by a Wall Street Journal reporter recently,
just like literally a couple hours ago.
And I checked, Bobby Kennedy's not scheduled to speak at Amfest.
And so what happens was, I get a call from this Wall Street general reporter asking me,
like, what do I think about Amfest?
And it's like, I was like, what I already said, you know?
And they, this woman,
She asks me, like, a lot of the Maha guys, the Maha people, they're not here.
She's like, we're here.
And it's like, they're not speaking.
And I asked her, I was like, is Bobby Kennedy speaking?
She's like, not, he's on the schedule.
And to me, that was like a, whoa, holy crap, because it was last year that Bobby Kennedy stood on stage at a turning point event, shaking Trump's hand with firework exploding in the air, uniting these like suburban moms with the MAGA movement, giving Trump the edge to win.
and now Amphus is happening
and, you know, my prediction was
it's going to be almost exclusively
dudes and suits coming out and just saying
Christianity or immigration,
they're getting rid of that middle of the road
or that Maha stuff.
People like Ian, you know what I mean?
We need more people like Ian.
I don't know about that, but they are getting rid of them.
We'll have more people like Ian.
Pesopic want to do a rock show.
I don't know what happened.
We were talking about it.
At Amfest, yeah.
Like that's true.
We needs a vibe shift into that.
I think would be better than into more suits.
And I'm not privy to the approval ratings,
but I would assume Bobby Kennedy is like the most popular cabinet member by far.
He's my favorite.
Well, apparently he's why suburban women voted for Trump.
Yeah, I mean, I think people under,
I think people in the conservative world,
like me completely underestimated how big RFK's.
Arms are.
Yeah, well, that too.
You see him doing those pull-ups?
Dude, that and Olivia Nuzzi?
And he's doing it in jeans.
You guys know about it's all in jeans.
Oh, yeah.
She moved to 45 minutes away from where he lives now.
She's staking out his house.
I was texting right now.
I just saw a post from the New York Post, I believe.
She's staying at a place that's 45 minutes away from RFK's place.
Dude, she is thirsty.
Yeah.
Orbitur, man.
She's thirsty.
Is RFK Jr. like married?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
To Cheryl Hines from Kirby Enthusiasm.
Really?
Could you imagine being like, how old is the RFK is like 80?
I'm kidding.
He's like 70s something.
Just something like you're really old dude and you're taking HGH and testosterone.
You're like, I can pull up.
50 times.
And then this like 30, like late 30s woman is just stalking you.
It must be, he must feel really good.
Yeah.
I still got it.
Some men drown while there's die of thirst.
That's what's happening here.
Olivia.
Olivia, you got to, you got to stay away.
It's back for business.
Where was she working?
Olivia News.
Nuzzi.
New York Times.
And then she like, what she got assigned to interview him?
And then she just stalks him the whole time.
Yeah.
It's that RFK Riz is different.
That Ma, that Maha RIS.
Dude, you know the kind of pheromones that guy's giving off?
It's turning these ladies and animals.
Dude, let's, like, first of all, he's probably completely unvaccinated.
Yeah, this dude is.
I mean, this dude could, like, single-handedly fix the birthright if you cut them loose.
No, it's the, you know what it is?
It's all these guys.
Okay, YouTube, calm down.
I'm joking when I say this, but, you know, there's some guy at YouTube with his finger over the sensor button.
I was going to say, there's these young guys that are just chalkfully these vaccines and they're shedding.
And so all these women are like, what's that smell?
But, you know, unvaxed Bobby Kennedy, he's just like, look at me.
I'm joking, calm down.
She's 32 years old.
Wow.
She's, I put it in the select.
New York Post says she's 32 years old.
She's been hiding from the glare of the paparazzi at the two-bedroom house.
3.5 million dollar Malibu compound, just 45 minutes from a RFKJLA mansion.
For these, it is thirst.
He's just smashed.
Kennedys are loyal to women.
Nakesh.
That's what they do.
It's in the boy.
Hey, it's my legacy.
You know.
This is a just crush.
Go visit Maryland and Rose grave and then go smash her.
You got to bring a shovel, but he'll make it work.
Can someone look up how old R.K. Jr. is?
Man, I'm telling him he's like a hot pie on a window sill for these ladies.
I don't know what's going on.
He's fresh.
He's 71.
God.
All right.
She's 32.
And he takes, he takes HGH, doesn't he?
Oh, yeah.
Testosterone?
Yeah, dude.
I mean, I don't know for sure, but he looks like it.
That's why it's tough for like.
guys like me are like mid-20s and then these
old heads with the H-GH are like nerfing.
They're smurfing. They're coming down
to our low rank. They're our low tier and they're
just like running. Oh, bro. Let's be
real. Like, how old are you?
24. Okay, you're a little young for Olivia.
Right. Yeah. Well, you know,
I've gone to some rescue missions. I've gone to
some rescue missions. What is? It's half
half a age plus seven.
Yeah. So that's a, that's a, that's a
court by the way. That's 23, right? What is you?
32? Did I get my math wrong?
23. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you're writing that. So you're writing
that range.
That's age.
How are you supposed to compete with this jacked-up Ravre Jr.?
I can't.
He's so handsome.
Yeah.
He's not hard to please, though.
He just has to blow in his butt.
He'll be all right.
Olivia,
he's doing that.
Olivia, please.
Cheryl's going to see him.
I have winded in me.
No.
We've got to get to hands.
Have you ever seen those videos where
this is really actually,
really dark. There's like, there's a video of these guys working at a mechanic. It's like
an oil change place. And they have the, uh, the air blower. They pull the trigger and it sprays
really, really. And then they're, they're blasting in each other's faces and they're going,
but then one guy pointed at the other guy's ass and pulls a trigger. Right. Not even in his
butt, but up to it and it blew him up. Oh, wow. He died. No, he literally died. He was good.
It ruptured his colon and he's gone. And then he's gone. What a way to go. Going out by a ruptured
colon. Yeah, because there was another
story that went viral where it was like,
it was like an 18 year old guy working at an
oil change place died of a ruptured
colon and intestines. And
the story that everyone thought it was
was like, oh. His boyfriend got him.
No, no, no, no. It's actually
always keep up in San Francisco.
It gets real dark. Blown out of
butts is great. This one gets real dark.
Because at first people were like, you know, this happens
because there's like, people
as a prank will point it at the butt, but
the pressure is so powerful, it cavitates
the colon.
Oh, wow.
But that's not what happened
to this young kid.
They actually janned it in his ass
and pulled the trigger
and killed him.
Oh, wow.
So that was like a murder.
That was a murder.
That was just regular murder.
He could break when.
He took win.
He took wins.
I don't know.
And I just want to make sure
everybody listening understands this started
because he said blow in his butt.
That's hilarious.
And then someone went,
Olivia, stop doing it.
Olivia, quit.
Cheryl's going to be back from Hamfest any minute and out.
Hey, man, I wrote it.
I got a gift for you.
I wrote a joke for you, man.
Did you?
They heard it already, man.
It's about Candace Oins, man.
Oh, no.
All right.
What is it?
Where I'm from, we call Candace Oins, a chicken nugget because she's brown on the outside and she's always full of white meat.
Oh.
Her husband is a very white man.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's like, honestly, being a British lord is like as white as it gets.
That's like the benchmark.
Oh, he's a British lawyer.
Lord.
Lord.
Lord.
Lord.
Yeah.
Yeah, he's a British Lord.
That's the benchmark for white.
Like John Stockton.
Oh, wow.
I hope he does.
Like he's got a butler.
Yeah, I hope he's just like the most proper, like high class discussion.
And even when he's being nice, it sounds like he's better than you.
Oh, he could carry a handbag around and it's not gay.
Anyway, we were talking about Amfest.
You know, so I got a call from this Wall Street general reporter,
and she was asking you what I thought about what was going on.
And I said, you know, I'm still friends with them.
You know, obviously, you know, what happened happened.
But I'm like, look, I don't think.
think, like if the direction they want to go, whether directly or indirectly, is just to have
more people wearing suits on stage, talking about political issue. And the whole audience is going to
be a bunch of people in suits. It's like CPEC. Whereas a year ago, it was looking like it was
going to be the new South by South or a new South by Southwest, a major culture hub where James O'Keefe
frosts his hair and then moonwalks on stage in a bulletproof vest. And you've got some weird stuff
happening. And now
it feels like it's turning into
just like, you know,
staunch Romney-esque
conservatives in suits saying,
we need to talk about immigration.
And like, RFK
Jr. could still be a part of that, but it looks like,
and maybe he shows up, I don't know, but I just
double-checked. He's not scheduled to speak.
And I'm like, that's crazy to me.
But hey, you know what? They didn't invite us. So I think
the problem they're going to face this year is at the midterms.
That there's this
like, I don't know,
I don't know if the easy way to describe it as kind of like the Rogan-esque sphere of politics.
Like the barstool.
Yeah, it's probably a good way to put it to.
Barstool Americans is what they call it.
Is it barstool Americans?
They're not going to vote for these conservative guys.
You know, I told his reporter, look, the only thing that's going to make me vote Republican
is if the Democrats keep getting crazier and crazier.
Like, right, where they just voted to give kids sex changes or Pope.
That's crazy.
Yeah, and I'm like, I think the Republicans are going to be stodgy suit-wearing dudes in the midterms.
And we're all going to be just kind of like,
but the Democrats are going to be trying to chop off kids' balls,
and we're going to go, okay, I guess I'm voting Republican.
Yeah, well, it's been the big issue with Republicans
is that they're perpetually the opposition party
and they never actually present sort of a new vision for the United States.
This is the reason why when Trump's on the ballot,
they get blown out of the water because when Trump's on the ballot,
they're just saying, look what the Democrats are,
and that's pretty horrible.
But, like, imagine you went to a Globetrotter's game and the generals won.
You'd be pissed.
And so that's probably how the political world feels
because the Republicans are supposed to be the generals
who just lose no matter what.
And, you know, and the Globe Chiders
just dance around doing literally, even breaking
the rules and no one cares.
Trump becoming the Republican nominees, like if the generals
got Wemanniama, that's basically what happened.
They started winning, and then the people who ran
the game were like, this is not right, the generals
are not supposed to win. And so now
they're trying, in all seriousness, though, I think
they're trying to bring it back to the old days.
They're trying to go back to the way it used to be
where Republicans sat on their ass
with their thumbs up their ass at the same time,
going, ah, and Democrats just, like, ran roughshed over the country.
And that's a shame because that's not what Charlie wanted.
That's not what Charlie wanted a turning point to do.
He was completely interested in bringing people into the party
because that's the way that he looked at, I mean, at the end of the day,
he talked about like he wanted to make heaven crowded, right?
Like, he wanted to convert people to Christianity.
And one of the ways that he was doing that was by bringing them first into the conservative party
or the Republican Party, the MAGA coalition.
And then he could reach out to him in a way that was,
that they could relate with.
I mean, and, you know, I'm not a religious guy, but, like, at the same time, I understood
what he was doing. And it's perfectly fine with me if you're fighting against the Democrats
and you're bringing people in by doing things like having Tim Kast or whoever at Amfest.
That's of all good, in my opinion.
Yeah, like, I made this point, like, right after Charlie died, it might have been the day of
when Charlie died is that the biggest loss among other things, one of the biggest losses
of losing Charlie Kirk is that no one else was going to use.
Utah Valley University on a Wednesday.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
Like he was the only guy who didn't view, not the only guy,
but he was the loudest voice that didn't view middle Americans as like these
kitschy, whatever.
He wanted to engage them and speak their language or our language.
I mean, that's where I come from.
That's why I resonated with him so much.
And yet without that, this is what you're going to get.
You're going to get CPAC, reheated, and you're going to miss out on all these college
kids.
I got to be honest, I'm bored.
I think everyone's bored.
I look you know so we're out in Vegas this is like party city
and the people I talk to
dude you know it's really crazy is how many people I'm walking around and they know
who I am and they all are like yeah it's kind of boring
just like the direction politics is going
it's kind of scary because Charlie was just murdered a couple months ago
and I'm like boredom I don't know if it's the right word
but what like the sentiment I constantly hear from people is I've already heard this
so like how many times you're going to talk about Venezuela
how many times you're going to talk about Afghanistan
You can talk about Ukraine.
You're going to talk about sex changes for kids.
Like, we've got this story where the Republicans passed a bill banning it.
And what's probably going to happen is the Senate's going to shoot it down for some stupid arbitrary reason.
And then we're never going to do anything because they're the Washington generals.
And so I go to regular people and they're like, I literally just don't care.
I can't bring myself to click on a video telling me something I've heard 50 million times.
And people should be bored of politics because things are going so well.
And they just trust that the bureaucrats generally have their wits about them.
They shouldn't be bored because of like complacency from Republicans.
And that's exactly what's going on here.
They're saying, why would I bother engaging?
Because it doesn't feel like the, you know, national GOP is getting anything done.
So what's the point of being tapped in?
Because when I invest all this time and energy into being tapped in, doesn't really reap any reward, especially when Trump's on the ballot.
We've got to start getting interested because, I mean, shit gets weird when you stop paying attention, you know.
Maybe I'm saying the wrong number.
Somebody can look this up, but 282.
13-year-olds were given sex changes in this country.
That's crazy.
That's retorty.
Hey, man, that's not fun.
You know what I mean?
Like, when we were talking about Olivia Nuzzi
blowing up RFC's butt, we were laughing.
Now it's all dark and I feel bad.
There's not much you can riff on it.
I'm getting sad.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
There's not much you can't go to an open mic and be like,
how about these child sex changes?
Jeez, ooh, ooh, tough crowd.
Yeah.
Literally put your penises.
Like, yeah.
What's what there's a woke mob?
I just got it.
Yeah, that's a thing that that the liberals have always been really good at,
and that's why they always do that,
that comedy version of news.
Right.
Because they know news is boring.
And we're sitting here going like, well, I doth protest.
This text policy is just too high.
And then Ian says, well, I don't know, man.
Taxes.
It's so boring.
Now, it matters in these political years when people are genuinely worried about their
health care, they're worried about, you know, gun violence or whatever. Right now, everybody's tired.
It's what we're, in an off year, it's the holidays. All I want to do is wake up on Christmas
Eve and eat French toastics, and I can't because the gluten messes me up. You got to understand
how angry that makes me. It's like living in a country full of sand and it's in your balls the
whole time. It's just a constant irritation. No, I think, I think right now people are looking to
relax and be entertained. And I think what the left does well, it makes people retarded, but they
Like John Oliver famously has that formula for how he does jokes,
where it's like he says news thing,
and then for no reason mentions Little Timothy or current year.
And it's like, I don't know if you guys ever saw that episode of King of the Hill.
Bobby's trying to tell jokes on the PA, but nobody will laugh.
And Peggy's like, it's because people are retarded.
So she gets a cowbell, and she's like, whenever the jokes done,
just bang the cowbell and yell, and then everyone will laugh because you're telling them to laugh,
and it worked.
And it's funny because Mike Judge, he gets.
it. That's like basically how it works.
Oh yeah. You try to watch
the way. Can I add a laugh track button to this real quick?
Have you ever seen where they like take the laugh track out of Seinfeld and then you watch it and you're like, it's all right?
No, it's actually kind of offensive.
Yeah.
Because like Jerry will walk in and go, George.
And there's no laughing.
No, no, just pause for three seconds.
And you're like, I don't understand.
Why did he just yell at his friend and you sit there?
They were in front of a live studio audience, Seinfeld was, but friends.
Yeah, just make everyone zip it.
Yeah, Seinfeld with no laugh.
They're like, Jerry, George.
my cat just died
and then no one laughs
for like three seconds
to just stare at them
and it's like it's kind of weird guys
to let the weird is say something
like when they walk in
and everyone applauds
and he's just standing there
like five seconds
all right let's let's get even more depressed
we got news for you from the Guardian
police are now investigating links
between the Brown shooting
and the killing of the MIT professor
yo this is actually really crazy
this MIT professor was a fusion scientist
fusion energy
Oh, yes, yes.
Bro.
Do you guys understand what this means?
No, explain.
All right, so we recently got fusion ignition.
This is a few years ago, which means like a miniature sun.
That's very reductive into what is actually happening.
But this is the point at which they could sustain a fusion reaction.
This means they can produce a ridiculous amount of energy for almost nothing.
Oh, wow.
Basically, gasoline on crack.
Just boom.
And this guy was researching it.
If we can figure out how to get energy out of the system,
dude, it's going to make your energy costs like pennies on the dollar.
Right.
And so when you get a guy who's one of the lead researchers working at MIT
getting shot multiple times in his own home in the chest,
the first thing everybody thinks is like,
you know, did homie have a breakthrough infusion energy
that was going to shut down the oil industry?
So they took him out.
Hey, man, Exxon sent that hit.
That's crazy.
Well, if these two are linked,
I know it kind of downplays a bit of the conspiracy,
but if these two are linked,
that to me tells me this is a schizophrenic,
this is someone that just spends way too much time online,
he gets radicalized about Republicans and conservatives,
if it's true, like, his motive for shooting this woman.
And then with this, this is just someone that was a four-you-page American.
They spent way too much time online.
Israel, for no reason, claimed it may be Iran.
I'm not kidding.
You're talking about investigating whether it was Iran.
Yeah, and they're like, we have no reason to believe it was,
and we're not suggesting it was.
but we are investigating that it was.
And I'm just like, what?
Oh, because the U.S. and Israel went after their nuclear program
and they're going to return the favor.
No, because they said it because the professor recently said pro-Israel things.
And I'm like, dude, shut up.
However, there was a really funny bit.
I don't know if you guys saw it from that community.
I didn't get his name.
So sorry, brother.
But it was a fake press conference where he said,
please stop referring to the shooter at Brown University as a brown as the brown shooter.
We don't need to add racism to an already tragic event.
Do you know how big of a problem it is?
So you know, like, in your email, how you'll get, like, these offers for personalized t-shirts,
and they'll take your last name and they'll put that on there.
I always get, like, advertisements, it's a brown thing.
You wouldn't understand.
One just said brown energy on it.
Like, it's giving brown energy.
I'm like, I hope I'm not.
You should get those shirts.
Brown energy.
And then walk around, like, Harlem or something.
Stop showering.
I have a simple question.
Where was the campus police?
Not around.
You know, yeah.
I mean, President Trump.
himself said like what's the deal with the security camera situation.
My favorite thing in this, did you guys see this picture right here where the feds,
there's like eight guys and they're just kicking the snow?
And it's like, you know what it reminds me of?
It reminds me of when you're at work and your boss is walking down the hall and you immediately
just start pretending like you're typing something and you, you know, you're playing Tetris
or whatever.
As a Tim Gassimpley, I can't relate to that.
I'm sorry.
Oh, I know, yeah, Tate's always at the grind, you know what I mean?
Every time I say him, he's just working really hard.
So true.
You know?
Isn't that crazy?
I've never seen him slacken off on Twitter.
Finding stories.
Yeah.
So true.
I was thinking yesterday if this could be connected to the oil industry,
trying to kill this guy so that...
But fusion, it doesn't produce fuel.
Like fuel are things you can pick up and carry around.
So you got petroleum, you got carbon, hydrogen, and plutonium.
Right.
If somehow this fusion program was helping them get to plutonium fuel or hydrogen, I mean...
No, no, no, Ian, you must understand.
Petroleum becomes fuel.
We get energy out of that.
We get a lot of energy.
It's really good.
Nuclear is a little bit better.
Fusion would be the biggest.
It would make energy very, very cheap.
But you can't carry it around with you.
Like you can't fuel, you can take.
No, but it can power homes in the grid.
On a grid, on a grid.
So we can, right now, I think half the grid is coal.
Powered by Santa's hard work.
You know, it's just, I mean, why theorize conspirator?
I was trying to read about what happened.
I know where this is going.
He's going to start saying something like they should be focused on graphene.
Well, maybe if we should be
Fuson, fuel cells with graphene
lattice batteries. Oh, okay, we get it.
No, I'll hold back.
It's tragic.
This is absolutely tragic.
47-year-old quantum physicist or whatever he was,
plasma science.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't know.
Now, the crazy story about this,
I guess it seems like they're not doing their jobs.
And, you know, it's funny because I'm getting,
I'm getting a lot of people complaining because I said,
Dan Bongino did the best he could.
And he's quitting.
I assume you guys talked about this yesterday.
Yeah, because he couldn't do anything.
Yeah.
Like the idea that Dan Bongino got there was like,
all right, guys, now I'm going to be evil.
I was like, yeah, that didn't happen.
Right.
Dan Bongino did not get hired by the FBI and say,
now I'm going to pretend to do as much as I can
while going to the beach and eating gingerbread.
No, he probably tried as hard as he could
and he couldn't do anything because the machine is crooked.
Right.
So he's like, okay, I'm quitting after eight months.
What's the point?
I made the point on the noon live that him being in the FBI
and now stepping back into the podcast space
probably will be of more value
to us than if he just continued
to be the dead
scares the shit out of me though
I think so
like dude if not Dan Bongino
then who you know what that's a very
salient question he gets in there
gets nothing done
to be fair cash and Dan did a lot of street level
policing which is good but look at this
these FBI guys walking around kicking
snow right is this what is this
well and if you are to believe the Axios
reporting he also uh not see eye
with Bondi on a lot of things so it's
it's even up for debate if there was even
cohesion at the Trump people let alone
the deep entrenched, you know,
apparatus within the FBI itself.
You know, I got to say, right,
because we were just talking about, you know, like the Amfest stuff,
this report was asking me, like,
what's the future going to look like in the political space?
And I said,
Democrats have a track record of being lunatic,
so I'm not going to vote for them.
But Republicans going like neocon round,
I'm not going to vote for them.
So I honestly don't know.
But what I can say is Trump as a person,
I like what he's done, you know,
B minus C plus.
Except for the people he hires.
Right.
First time around, he hires a bunch of deep state garbage.
Second time, he hires a bunch of old women with plastic surgery.
I'm not trying to be addicted to the old lives with plastic surgery.
I'm making a statement of fact, not a derisive one.
It is literally older women that he's largely given these positions to,
and they've got a lot of plastic surgery.
And so I'm questioning whether or not could there have been better choices.
Sure.
I think everyone agrees that he could have made better choices.
And we ragged on him the first time for doing this.
And maybe his idea now was like, I'll just get people who are going to
do what I tell him to do.
Like Carolyn Leavitt, he's like, look at her pretty,
did he say pretty face? Look at those lips.
And it's like, that's what he wants.
And then Van D'E Faire
posted that picture of all their like injection sites or whatever.
Yeah.
Was it almost up in his high rest as they kind of make her look bad?
I think that was Trump's strategies.
He wanted people that were loyalists
that could simultaneously get approved by the Senate.
Because that's the limiting principle in all of this,
is that if you got like these super base nominees,
they would get shot down.
Matt Gates.
The reason you can push someone like,
someone like Dan Bongino probably
would have gotten held up in the Senate,
but the deputy director is just directly appointed by the president.
He doesn't need to be approved by.
I kind of feel like,
I'm bored of all this as well for the same reasons most people are.
And we have to just make fun of it all.
You know what I mean?
If we're not laughing,
we're going to get depressed.
I mean this sincerely,
like earlier we were making these jokes about Olivia Nuzzi blowing up RFK's butt
and him enjoying it.
And it's funny and we're all laughing.
And that kind of brings the joy back to being and,
you know,
we've been so serious for so long. It's so depressing. When you're young, it's kind of cool to be
an activist, an anti-establishment activist, like, yeah, down with whatever that is. But as you get
older, you kind of got to solve the problem or stop complaining, or you're just going to be angry
and miserable complaining your whole life. For sure. The reason why the 2024 campaign from Trump
was so different feeling was because he brought in a lot of these, the coalition expanded to bring
a lot of these comedians, these entertainers, and these sorts of things. And it gave some energy to
a Republican candidate that's never been there.
Not even really in 2016.
2016 was mostly organic from the people.
But the people in the Trump orbit were still kind of these stodgy, conventional Republicans.
2024, you saw the coalition expand because of Trump's character in a lot of ways
because he just invites those types of people.
And it was a lot of fun.
I mean, it was it had a certain flavor to it that was really distinct.
And it was actually the opposite problem for Kamala.
She had all these orbiters who were just like super serious.
Oh, Trump's like Hitler 2.0.
And it's like, I'm going to go with the people.
that are having fun.
I think part of the reason why that why Trump attracted so many people in 24 is because so
many people were disillusioned by COVID, right?
That is well.
The four years that Biden was in, in office, people really saw how dishonest the government had
been.
And, you know, arguably Trump might be a little bit responsible for that because he didn't
fire Fauci early in, or late in his last year and stuff.
But there were so many people that once it kind of came out that social distancing,
distancing was BS, wearing a mask was BS.
All these things came out.
People were like, well, I just don't trust the government.
I don't trust the Democrats because they're the ones that are in power.
So I think a lot of people, once they started to be able to discuss these things,
once they saw the rollback of the censorship that was going on on YouTube and stuff,
they started to say, well, I don't want the guys that were doing that.
You know, and Musk buying X, buying Twitter and changing it to X,
that was also a huge issue for people.
And so once that was kind of established in the public zeitgeist, then they were like, well, we can't support the Democrats.
And even still, there were still a lot of people that voted for Kamala Harris, even though she was, you know, had three months and was arguably the worst candidate the Democrats have ever produced.
Yeah, terrible.
Yeah.
I mean, well, I think an underrated aspect of all this is what you said is Elon buying Twitter was a massive game changer because it didn't just affect Twitter.
is all of these other social media platforms had to react because they didn't want to get lapped by X.
If everyone that was getting banned from all these sites who were just normal people rushed into X,
it would have put them out of business, especially because X was aggressive with video and these sorts of things.
So everyone, we always discuss on the show, like, oh, if you go on Instagram Reels,
you're going to see some really wild stuff.
And the reason for that is because Meta had to roll back a lot of their draconian moderation
in reaction to X's new policy.
Let's jump to this story.
We have this from 19th News.org.
And I would be in favor of shutting down the 19th news.org.
No, it's a very obviously like a feminist news blog.
But they say House Republicans advance sweeping anti-trans bills ahead of holiday break.
One bill would jail doctors who prescribe gender affirming care to trans youth.
Another would block Medicaid dollars from funding that care.
And then we have this, RFK Jr., from also 19th news,
announces new rules targeting care for transgender youth.
If approved, proposed federal regulation would dramatically impact an already challenging.
landscape. To put simply, they're saying no more sex changes for kids. And Democrats are in favor
of this. And so I'm just, you know, look, the Democrats have been insane for a long time.
I feel like the Republican Party is going to move into this like DeSantis-esque neo-con kind of
territory. Maybe Dan Bungino coming back to this space can be a more unifying voice for the
people who don't want to vote for Democrats. But outside, like we, I'm a, I'm going to, I'm a
Obviously, like, we can talk about the ban on child sections and all that.
I'm just wondering what you guys think is going to happen to the political parties in this country
because there are a lot of people that no longer fit into the traditional Democrat or Republican space.
Well, I think that's why you're seeing the knife fight within the Republican Party right now.
You're seeing, I think.
Yeah, they're saying, get out.
Right.
Well, and I think you're seeing the neocons.
They're much more clever this time.
They've crafted their message in a way that's much more appealing to the MAGA base.
and that's why they're trying to poison the well
ahead of time for J.D. Vance, where you have
kind of a double-pronged attack because you have
these neocons, and then you also have these sort of dissident right-wing
figures. But the neocon strategy, this is at least what it looks like to me, you guys
may disagree, is that the reason that they're sort of calling everyone
Groyper is all of a sudden, even if you have nothing to do with Nick Fuentes'
as politics, is because they want to set the stage for 28
to be able to label someone like J.D. Vance, a Groyper.
And so it's kind of a reheated version of like the alt-right,
where I was like if you just vaguely disagreed with Jeb Bush,
you were a part of the alt-right.
And even if you had nothing to do with these all-right figures,
that looks to me to be the play they're setting back up,
and that's how the neocons are going to wrestle control of the party back.
Please clap.
They're using the term patriot, too.
They're going to use that heavily and be like,
are you not a patriot?
What kind of patriot are you?
And that'll be like propaganda to get people to be like,
you don't like that we're going to bomb Venezuela?
Are you not a patriot?
Well, see, I feel like the left has already tried to make that very.
Toxie.
Like they've used that as a phrase.
And you see a lot of people taking, you know, like we're taking it back and starting
to like the way that Tate uses it.
But like the left has has really put a lot of effort in saying using the phrase
Patriot, especially after like after January 6th, they were saying Patriot groups.
And they were saying if you're a Patriot, that's actually a right wing extremist.
But in some ways I'm seeing the left actually to like retcon American patriotism in a lot of
ways.
The example I points to was with the LA riots earlier this year is initially the rioters were
just flying Mexican flag because they were making it very obvious that they were just Mexican
nationalists whether or not they were born in the United States. And what happened is you saw a lot of
these figures kind of in this Ezra Klein sphere saying like, hey, this looks terrible optically.
You guys need to start wearing American flag shirts, flying American flags. So you can like,
it'll pass the sniff test for right wingers. And that's so I think the left's actually
sort of wised up to this in some senses. They're actually trying to portray themselves as
those standing for American values. Like, you know,
noticed last night with Brian Shapiro is if I had any critique of our current immigration system
or the previous immigration system, he would say, that's un-American, that's anti-American.
And he would actually have no legitimacy from history, but he would say that because
it just sounds bad. And for a right winger that doesn't know anything about politics, they go,
oh, wow, is this guy a communist? I was talking to these guys the other day, and they were asking
me about the show and I said, what's the best way to describe the show? I don't know. We say
stuff like, eschatology or something. And they're like, I never watched, I would never watch
that. Yeah. And I'm like, right. You know, I was like, we're, we're going to use, we're going to use
big words. And this is the rights problem. They're, they're very serious. They're very attuned and
very smart. And it works for smart people. But average people, if they can't understand,
what you're saying, it's not a question of interest or disinterest, it's disconnect.
I agree.
I think the right's issue is that they're taking themselves seriously, these neocons.
Their aesthetic is serious in a very LinkedIn way, rather than like a traditional form of
high culture and these sorts of things.
And I think the American people would be open to sort of aesthetics that are elevating to
the soul.
Again, that sort of uplift you in many ways.
I think the issue is that all they wear,
the reason they're wearing the suit and tie is because that's what they see on LinkedIn.
That's what they see in the Fortune 500.
You know,
you know what Crowder is so good?
Because he does comedy.
Yeah.
And I think that's,
that's,
and it's unfortunate that's kind of on this island.
And I think the same thing is true for us.
But the moderate to right space is largely just an island.
Crowder is very funny.
He shows viral clips and then they make fun of those viral clips.
So it's entertaining for a regular person.
and then he introduces you to these more complex ideas and debates.
It works amazingly well.
The unfortunate thing is that he's on an island,
and the movement to push back against these lunatic Democrats
largely does not include people like him.
So one thing we have to do is be substantially more entertaining.
I agree.
And I think the problem is, you know,
they need a better understanding of extracensualism.
You know, the common American now is more concerned
with being able to express their individuality.
and be more expressive and creative.
And a lot of times you have to tie ideas into the fact that,
this guy wants to be a magician, but he's a Republican.
Let me figure out a way to make him feel at home and not like a weirdo.
You know what I mean?
I mean, it's crazy the flak that James O'Keefe would get from conservatives
because he likes moonwalking.
Right.
I'm like, bro, you want him to moonwalk.
Yeah.
Like we did an event on stage.
Where were we?
It was like in New York.
And James O'Keefe, just in the middle of the,
the room, pushes everybody aside, has moonwalking, and I was like, this is hilarious.
That's a whistleblow, too. That's a dog whistle.
It's right. It's right.
Vote for me, black guys and moonwalking.
Well, he's not in the office.
But look, with all due respect to Amfest, I'm not trying to be a dick, but it's going
to be a bunch of just dudes and suits.
You need some eccentricity.
I mean, that's, I mean, someone like Milo, that's why he's so popular among other things
is because, again, he's delivering ideas in a package that's, like, hard to look away
from.
I mean, that's even kind of been Flint as a secret sauce.
The majority of people that are interacting with his content online aren't even really
tracking with what his politics are, his policies that he's proposing or any sort of
thing.
They just see the clip that's pretty funny.
Then they identify as a Groyper.
And it's like because that's the most effective way to communicate an idea is through something
that's compelling, that's funny, et cetera.
He is surprisingly funny.
But like, I don't watch his content, but I've seen the clips where he's got this kind of like
dry sarcastic humor that kind of hits when there was something that came up with like
Pierce Morgan asked him about black people being in jail.
Right.
And he tried framing it as though it was a blanket statement that Nick wants just for being black.
And he goes, yeah, the murderers.
And it's like, and then he was like, but you're saying black people.
And he's like, the ones that kill people.
Yeah.
And he like kind of walked him in.
I don't know, people were saying he kind of walked Pierce into it because Pierce took the bait from the clips.
Not realizing that his point was he didn't care about your race if you're a murderer,
you go to jail.
Right.
Yeah.
Well, that's because Fuentes is able to flip, flop from irony into like post irony on the,
on the turn of a turn of a heel.
And Pierce Morgan is a super serious suit wearing establishment crony.
And so he is not prepared whatsoever to handle someone like that.
So he comes on and all Pierce is doing is just taking whatever he says at face value,
not realizing that.
Flens says just kind of sees him as like a character.
And he doesn't even view peers as like a person.
He views him as like a face of an entire ideological framework.
It was sad that John Stewart kind of went nuts.
Yeah.
But, you know, he disappeared for a long time.
I've always been a big fan of John Stewart.
and then he retires.
And then when he came back,
he sounded like a lunatic
because he was no longer along with the liberals
at first.
You know, he went on Colbert and he was just like
the coronavirus lab
where the virus just appears across the street
and we say that can't be related.
And then Colbert desperately trying to be like,
well, maybe not. I don't know.
John Stewart comes back into politics
expecting to be his traditional liberal comedic self
pointing out out,
obvious things like there's the Wuhan Institute for Coronavirus research a block away from where
the virus emerged and they were telling him he was wrong but he fell in line yeah he quickly fell in
line and started blaming white people for stuff because like john stewart's issue was he was still
shadow boxing he still is shadow boxing against opponents that would have been relevant like the
90s right so he still views like wasps and like the church as primary opponents to his ideology
when these haven't really been like you know formidable opponents in 30 40 years
So he's really just shadow boxing now against this is like you see the same thing in the UK
Like kneecaps a great example where they're like always railing on like the queen or the king because they view them as like
They're still stuck in this old framework where these were viable
You know political vehicles. Yeah, and it's like dude these people haven't been relevant in 40 50 years
How about you use your comedy use your edgy self to address the actual things you can't you know
Because if you ask kneecap to like address like Islamic immigration to Ireland they would freeze up and it's like yeah because that's actually something
that would challenge the establishment in a meaningful way.
So it's people like that, like John Stewart in his current iteration,
are trying to challenge an establishment that isn't established anymore,
and they don't want to challenge the current establishment.
And I'm sorry.
You brought him Neckap, and I mentioned this too.
Like the only thing that Neacap disagrees with the Royals about is whether or not there
should be royals, right?
All of the opinions that Neacab has are the same opinions that the royals have now.
They're very much, they're all talking about, you know, they're all pro-Palestine,
they're all very much left-leaning and progressive in their in their politics.
Only difference is, well, we're the royals and you're not.
Yeah, they act like the royals are still tormenting Ireland.
As if that has like any relevance whatsoever in 2025.
The royals don't have a grasp on their own country, let alone Ireland.
Yeah.
So yeah, that's what it frustrates me tremendously, people on the left that, again, are just shadow boxing.
You're not challenging the establishment in any meaningful way.
Maybe develop an argument that will catch you some flexibility.
And then that's an indication that maybe you're pushing in the right direction.
Yeah.
If you're not, if you're not catching some kind of flag.
Yeah.
If you're not catching it from someone, then you're certainly not saying anything anyway.
No, well, you made fun of Trump?
Dude, how are you going to get away with it?
He's going to put you in jail.
He's a fascist.
And then nothing happens because.
Or Trump laughs.
Yeah, or Trump laughs.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And he says, Mom Donnie, it's okay.
You can call me a fascist.
We got big news.
Big news.
We got this from fact post.
It's a short clip, but listen to this.
In the fall, we will host the first ever Patriot Games
An unprecedented four-day athletic event
featuring the greatest high school athletes,
one young man and one young woman from each state and territory.
But I promise they will in the fall...
He promises that they will be brought into a large arena near D.C.
where they will off the fight to the death.
And the winner will be the victor.
May the odds be ever in your favor.
If it's truly hand-to-hand combat, I think Arkansas runs.
the table. There's no question.
It's American warrior, man.
I think maybe Arkansas or Mississippi.
I don't know, man.
Chicago.
Chicago.
Well, if you can't bring, you can't bring firearms in there.
Again, there'll probably be no substances in there, so they'll fall apart.
They'll probably just kill those.
So there's no sport.
They haven't said a sport.
I don't know.
This is a real thing.
I think it's going to be like American gladiators where you have like the foam missiles
they'll shoot a run down the...
If it truly is like a variety of sports, I tweeted this earlier, is that your best
odds, if you're just like not.
an athletic person, but you want to be on the national spotlight.
You should be arranging your affairs to move to, like, American Samoa,
because territories are included, American Samoa, the Northern Mariana Islands.
These are places with like 30,000 people.
So if you move there right now, you're not going to have any competition,
just picking up scarce sports.
You know what, hold on.
Hold on.
The Somones are pretty big and athletic.
I don't know.
He said territories.
So, yeah, you got some big Samones, but I'm going to go with, like, I'm going to go with
Washington because there's a lot of Asians in Washington.
Oh, yeah.
And if you're saying no weapons allowed, then I'm not.
I'm going to make the generalized assumption that my people are naturally good at martial arts.
I'm going to Guam.
I'm going to Guam.
There you go.
No Meso Indian could beat me in a sport.
Like Washington just has to find the two high school students who can kill like the best.
Right.
Oh, yeah.
If it's a kill off, then like Illinois is going to run the table.
If it's no holds barred, yeah, I'm going to Illinois.
This actually is pretty crazy to think because, I mean, obviously the killing makes it comedic
in that it's so over the top.
Obviously, we're not laughing at people dying.
but it literally is very hunger games asked to be like the Patriot games where two kids from every state are brought to the Capitol
the winners will have a dinner with me at the Capitol the winner state will receive maximum federal funding for the next calendar year
this feels like the 36 Olympics you know what I mean that's what you know that's what you'll do whoever wins he won't deploy ice into that state for the year there you go there you go amnesty for everybody in your state if you win
yeah we were just talking about how great youth sports are though this is a big big big thing we got to get going to
Again, if you want kids to have healthy sex lives and be like aggressive, you know, adult males that pursue women, have families, like some young sports will really get you normalized.
Kids having sex lives is incredible.
I mean, look, look.
It's a kid technically.
We've talked about how there's no young people.
Like there's a population collapse underway.
Gen Alpha is only 42 million.
Wow.
Yeah.
And you can't reverse that because you can't go back in time.
Yeah.
We're missing 42 million people.
Trump doesn't want to import.
He wants to deport the ones that came illegally.
The Democrats want to import them.
So I'm wondering if invading Venezuela is just like, listen, we don't have the labor, but we can steal the energy.
Right.
We put Venezuela back on the oil market and pump all their oil in the system, and it's going to bolster our capabilities without having the same labor class.
We're going to have something to sell to make money on.
And then I bring this up in this context because Trump's vision of bringing America back to where it used to be, baseball and out.
apple pie. It's going to need people. And so that means this is a 40 year plan.
Stealing oil and taking over, you know, it's at Venezuela's close. They got a lot of oil.
We could take that oil. Well, that's what I mean, I've proposed. I think the United States should
take sort of a page from these countries that do think in these long term, they have these long term
strategies where they do have these worker programs. We literally come. You have three years in the
country. You can't bring your family, can't bring your wife. You're literally here to work. Help us
build our stadiums for a World Cup or whatever, and then you get out and you cannot come back,
not even as a tourist. And I think like that's kind of a win-win is for some of these massive
mega-projects that we need to do in these countries and you do have to keep labor costs low,
that could be a viable option because as the population retracts, there's going to be a higher
demand on labor. And I do think that potentially we could allocate our labor into more
viable industries. And in turn, we could keep labor costs cheap for like construction of
mega-projects by taking maybe like a, I don't know, like a UAE strategy, perhaps.
We were talking about doing a public works project.
Andrew actually brought it up like a roads project.
It's been a while since we've done an American public works project that I know of.
But if we revitalize our roads across the country with like 21st century materials, that'd be freaking badass.
Remember that import people?
Bro, bro.
Like, oh, wait, we finish your thoughts.
Import workers for the project and then they leave when they're done.
Was that what you were saying?
Is like it's a temporary work visa?
It's just a simple works, like works program for, you know, you bring them in to get out.
They can't come back.
That's much more viable than like currently where you just keep illegal immigrants on the book and just like hope no one notices.
I want to explain to you the problem with communism.
Ian.
Please.
It's impossible to do.
Public works.
Like this idea of us just spending money as a country and be like we've decided we're going to allocate an obscene amount of money in this one direction.
I'll give you a couple examples of the problems here and why it's got to be more meritocratic than that.
Not to literally say public works is communism, right?
Do you guys remember that viral video where they were like, what if all of our roads were solar panels?
And they were like, there's 846,000 square miles of road across this country.
And then it showed like this graphic where it was like, if we made our roads solar panels,
it would be a massive grid generating electricity while we drove right on top of it.
That's why we got to keep the weed out of everything.
Exactly.
And you guys know what happened when they tried it?
What?
So first it went viral and everyone's like, it snowed.
This is amazing.
They were like, the dirt on the road obstructed the light and that generated no electricity.
Right.
And then the plates got scratched.
and a refracted light, and they became useless in the trials that they did.
Or there was that other video that went super viral, where it was like, why can't cell phones be modular?
And then it showed like a base phone, and it was like, maybe you want a camera, and a big camera clicks on.
It's like, maybe you want a small battery.
Small battery clicks on.
And then Google bought it, and then the project died right away.
And everyone, all the hippies got mad, and they were like, Google bought it and killed it because they didn't want to protect the environment.
Because if people had modular phones, if the camera broke, you could swap the camera module out for a new camera module,
and you'd have the same phone forever,
and the real reason was that it's impossible.
The real reason is that it was a made-up thing online
that wasn't possible to do,
and it was this gigantic, bulky piece of trash
with low battery power that nobody wanted.
That's what happens.
To your point about labor shortage.
I mean, we had the same problem,
and a thing called slavery happened right after.
But England, during that time,
they tried to do things to combat free labor,
like emptying the streets of all the vagrants and homeless
and shipping them to America
when we were short.
of labor. So, I mean, I think the answer to the labor shortage is we have buck farms
called prisons. So if we need more citizens, we should just let women into prisons and open
the cells and let nature take its course at some point. I mean, because that's pretty much what
we did in the past. I know it sounds crazy, but, you know, so government-sponsored conjugal
business. Hire more female prison guards than nature will take its course. That seems to be a phenomenon
on that happens a little bit.
You know, the female prison guards end up pregnant with inmates' children, you know.
Right, right.
Getting crazy out there.
Get somewhere where the camera doesn't look, and next thing you know, it's like,
oh, nature takes its course.
Imagine raising a baby in a sale, though.
That's crazy, too.
Well, I mean, if she's free, then, you know, you've just got to provide state funding for
the child, I guess.
I mean, people do it in studio apartments.
New York, New York City.
I mean, with roommates.
With roommates.
It's actually crazier neighbors.
So, yeah.
It's possible.
Yeah, I mean, I'm not sure that that would actually work.
No, I wouldn't work, but, I mean.
You know, it's interesting.
This is what we're here for.
We're here to, like, percolate with these ideas.
Right, right.
Let them throw them out.
Well, we, you know, next, this 2026 is going to be bonkers, dude.
It's going to be busy.
It's the 250th.
We're going to have the Patriot games.
Aren't we having some, like, massive festival in D.C. or something?
Yeah.
And also, the World Cup is going to be here this summer.
I mean, like, the world's biggest event.
all across the United States.
The World Cup's happening all over the U.S.?
Yeah, the World Cup's always throughout the country
that's played in, and the final will be in New Jersey at MetLife.
And this is what sport?
Football.
I've never heard. I have no idea what that is.
Football.
It's some comie, goboggle. I don't know what it is.
It's a sport for people that can only afford a ball.
Brown energy. I'll wear it for the World Cup.
They'll love it.
It was funny how the Simpsons made fun of soccer,
where the announcer was just saying, like,
he goes left he goes back he goes back and forth he goes back and forth and that's like the all he was saying and they were kind of like okay i i let my hand slip uh i let my card show this morning on the live show is i do actually like soccer quite a lie it's it's very unfortunate soccer yeah i used to play deport
oh yeah it was a backup fullback backup for i can't name that's not a real position oh the backup's not a real position that's why i was a backup there you go i was i was right in the pine as i can't stay soccer sounds like domestic violent soccer
That's right.
You know, it's patriarchy, and we should say away with it.
Away with soccer.
No, I mean, I'm actually stoked.
It means it's going to be a lot of tourists coming in,
a lot of money coming into the United States.
The joke is like all these Europeans used to writing public transportation
when they get dropped off in the DFW and they have to figure out how to get to the stadium.
Bro, you know, it's really going to be crazy is if it's all over the country,
these tourists are going to come in from places like Europe or whatever and they're going to get robbed.
Yeah.
Can you imagine they're coming from like, you know, beautiful Paris or Rome and they get dropped in Kansas?
A joke? Beautiful Paris?
Or Rome?
In Europe, you have to worry about...
I'm just saying these really like, you know, whatever.
And then they get dropped in like Kansas City.
Just get robbed right away.
Well, with a gun.
They have to download Uber.
They pull their phone out.
You want to hear a joke?
How do you say hello in Paris?
Salam al-a-a-l-a-l-l-a-com.
Yes, you got it.
You know the sad thing is I went to Paris and it's true.
It's actually very true.
It's very unfortunate.
There's the 250th anniversary of the U.S. too.
That's going to be a big.
deal. I'm gonna, I'm gonna buy a bunch of, I'm gonna buy a bunch of fireworks and I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna
blow them up. Yeah. What you gotta do is, you know those balloons that have the numbers is just gobble up all the
250 numbers. I got idea. We should get a bunch of balloons, like a hundred of them, on really long
strings and launch bottle rockets at them. Is there it? You know, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna phrase this
very carefully because we have a very large property with lots of open space. Right. And we will seek the permits to do this
first, YouTube, but we'll fill the balloons up with helium and butane.
Boutain.
I don't know if it'll be able to lift it, though.
I don't know, Ian, this would be a question for you.
Is butane have?
I defer to chat GPT on this one.
Let's find out.
Okay. Hydrogen.
Hydrogen.
Oh, hydrogen balloons and then we launch bottle rockets at them.
Oh, wow.
That'd be cool, right?
That'd be cool. That could save a lot of money at the Venezuela operations.
Send it over there.
Just go to Miami and just load it.
Just launch a million hydrogen balloons into the air.
It's like, oh, we actually blew Guyana off the map.
Whoops.
What about shotguns with dragons?
Did carry a...
Forget to carry a one.
Argentina's gone.
Have you guys ever seen
Dragon's Breath, shotgun?
Shotgun. Shotgun shells shooting
hydrogen full balloons.
What is going on?
Do you not know about Dragon's Breath?
No, I don't know anything.
It's a semi-automatic Dragon's Breath video.
There we go.
It's magnesium shards.
Oh, no.
Is it going to load?
Yeah.
Look at this.
Mossberg.
Can this gun cycle this ammo?
Yeah, Ken.
There you go.
That's what I'm talking about.
Can it jammed.
Eichland.
There we go.
How do you even, like if you're his neighbor, what do you even say it's the body?
Nothing.
You don't say anything.
No, of course you.
Do you say, brother, can I come over?
I'll bring the beer.
Yeah, real.
I'm officer he's sitting off.
I think nuclear bombs in his backyard.
Yeah.
Dragon's breath.
I'm in on this.
What is it like?
Shards of magnesium, right?
It's birdshot with magnesium in it.
Can you imagine someone breaks in your house
that's what you used yourself?
I mean, look, dude, it's going to scare his friends
if they're not inside yet.
These are, what are the exotic shells, right?
I bought a pack of a bunch of exotic shells.
And what are they called, like, fleschet?
There's flichettes.
The flichette is that it is?
They're all a bunch of blades, right?
Yeah, it's a shotgun shell full of blades.
They have what they call SABOS, which is a shotgun shell
where that's basically a needle.
It's like just a dart.
It's got in the shotgun shell and you shoot it
And there's a plastic piece
Well the SABO is when it falls away, right?
Yeah, the plastic piece falls away
And you got basically it's shooting a little dart
Shotguns are cool, man
Dude, the exotic ones are crazy
I got one of them that's a bunch of, it's literally a bunch of needles
Yep
And when you shoot it, it's just a bunch of spikes
Like basically you could put anything in a shotgun shell
And just let it rip
What they call a blunderbust back in the day
You just shove a bunch of crap into it
And it's got just a big long tube
Like forks
I mean forks
But they would charge
and put shards of broken glass.
Junk mail.
You know to reutilize my junk mail.
Pirates used to do that.
Yeah, just hit them with some Coles cash.
It's a pirate credit card.
Yeah.
That's right.
I got hit with the water bill last night.
You shove rocks in there?
Yeah.
Anyway, yeah, good point.
We should take a bunch of balloons full of hydrogen.
We'll get the permitting for this.
Yes.
And then we hang them up all over and blast them with dragon's breath.
It'd be sick.
This will impress the Europeans.
No, it'll terrify them.
Yeah, it's actually.
you might, yeah, as soon as the World Cup's over, it's like, get out of here.
It will leave an impression.
I got a joke for you.
I got a joke for you.
What does a person in Paris say when they're very shocked?
I don't know.
Al-Hu Akbar.
There we go.
You're supposed to say sacrebleu.
Yeah, with the newcomers in France, I don't think they'll be put off to the explosions.
They'll be like, oh, this is very familiar to me.
I thought that's why I left the Middle East.
I thought I got away from the stuff.
It's like that meme where it's the Middle Eastern guy and woman and there's a drone strike happening.
And he's like, you know,
they say the next one will be fired by a woman.
And the woman goes, can you imagine being a part of history?
I know.
It's really beautiful.
So progressive.
It's very beautiful.
Well, speaking of all that, we've got this story from Newsweek.
H-1Bs to be completely banned under Republican proposal.
Let's go.
Republican Congresswoman has called for a total ban on H-1B temporary visa program,
part of the wider effort to go after the immigration system.
Texas rep Beth Van Dine, is that he pronounced it?
Told conservative commentator Benny Johnson that politician,
had failed to consider the unintended consequences of immigration programs like H-1B,
that H-1B visa program has got to either stop right now until we understand
the amount of just how it's being taken advantage of or redone,
so it doesn't exist.
It cannot continue in the way it has.
Newsweek contacted Van Dine outside of regular office hours.
Why?
Why did they put that in there?
Like, we called her when we knew she wasn't around.
Okay, so you didn't actually try.
What do you guys say?
Four or against?
Four, yeah.
I mean, like, this is the,
the whole thing is this is not a program you can reform.
It's just clearly been demonstrated that people will take advantage of it.
I mean, it's been like 90% of H-1B visas went to India.
So this is just not something that could be reformed at this point.
And then you have to ask the question, these employers cannot use it responsibly either.
We saw, obviously, back when this sort of discourse kicked off,
it's got people who were using it for, like, janitor gigs and whatnot.
So it's like, if the corporations can't be trusted and the issuing office can't be trusted,
just scrap the program.
But did you guys see that thing with,
Pierce Morgan where he was asked like, what does he like about multiculturalism?
And he said chicken ticama sala.
Yeah, literally.
I was made in Glasgow.
I was going to say that's not even from India at all.
But, but, but it was an Indian guy.
So the question that is, you know, here's the point.
It's a double whammy.
If peers is like, I like multiculturalism because we have chicken ticca masala,
which was invented in Scotland, he's saying the dude who made it wasn't Scottish.
He's also kind of being.
Is he, he's like, you are not Scottish?
He's kind of being, not, I don't know if racist is the right word, but that's a very dumb answer because having chicken teak masala has nothing to do with what cultures of people live around you.
We can steal whatever food we want.
You know that you can get the recipes online.
You can get the ingredients online.
You don't need Indian people in your country to make Indian food now.
It used to be 100, 500 years ago, maybe it was that way.
It's not like that anymore.
Well, it was never that way.
Do you guys know, you guys know, you guys?
You have a secret, you know?
Do you friends know the legend of ketchup?
No, what's delicious of ketchup?
Oh, well, let me come, come gather around, and I will tell you a tale.
A guy went to China and had cata, which is a vinegar tomato sauce, and then he came to the United States, and he was like, I'm going to make it.
And they're like, what is he goes, Katsa?
And then they put Katsup, and then Katsup got redneckified into ketchup.
I'd always been told there was an episode of King of Queens where Arthur, the dad, he objected to calling it ketchup because he said it was like the commodified brand name of it.
And the actual substance is called Katsup.
Is that, that's like how, you know, people call Tissues Kleenexes.
it's like even if it's not Kleenex brand.
So he refused to play a part of this corporatization of our products.
And I thought that was a bold stand by Arthur Spooner.
I don't know if that's all a bold stand.
Chinese fermented fish sauce, Katsya.
And you can actually get Katsa.
Like you go to a Chinese food restaurant.
It's vinegar, tomato sauce on chicken or whatever, chicken Katser or whatever.
Ancient China, a pungent fermented fish sauce.
Yeah, this stinks, huh?
Yeah, this whole idea that you have to, even like let's just say Piersmore,
Oregon's priority was like food options, which whatever, it's stupid, but it's whatever.
If you go to Tokyo, it's a very homogenous country. It's like 99% ethnically Japanese.
And you go around Tokyo, you will have the best ethnic food from around the world.
The best Italian, the best Thai, the best Indian. No matter what, Tokyo has fantastic
array of options. And the reason for that is they said, rather than importing the people here
simply for the recipes, what we can do is we can send the Japanese chefs to these countries.
they can learn from them and then come back and open restaurants.
Not to mention now, you can just look up the recipe.
And so you actually get like a really authentic, what's the word I'm looking for?
You know, very delectable food options.
Yeah.
And it's also worth noting that like in Japan, they don't really have a concept of close enough.
Like it's right or it's not right.
Yes.
They're very precise and everything.
When I was like we've done a bunch of touring in Japan and you go there and the first day your crew will set up the stage.
and then once everything's set up,
the local crew will come in.
They measure everything,
take pictures.
The very next day,
when you show up at the venue,
your crew included.
Like when you guys show up,
everything's set up.
If you had a Red Bull and a beer set on the riser,
there would be a Red Bull and a beer.
Like,
it is their attention to detail
is like no other place I've been
and I've been to a bunch of countries.
It's wonderful.
I mean,
that's when I went to the McDonald's there
and they bow to you.
I'm like,
in the United States,
they square up with you.
So it's a really refreshing.
I want to propose a,
a compromise with Pierce Morgan.
I will guarantee he can have chicken ticama salad.
In fact,
that will bring him pot type personally,
but no immigration.
I'm kidding,
but like if his point is,
the food is good,
it's like,
okay,
then the argument from the anti-immigration side is,
then we will plunder their food
and you can have it.
Is that your argument?
The British did that.
They literally would just topple countries for spices.
Oh, bro,
you know how many people were killed for black pepper?
Yeah.
Amazing.
It's like 50K.
Worth it.
Like 50,000 people.
were slaughtered so that like aristocrats in France could put black pepper on their steak.
And then the funniest thing is, every restaurant down to the redneckiest piece of trash
restaurant is going to have black pepper on every table that nobody uses.
Can I add a likely conspiracy to the ketchup?
Most likely the person who brought ketchup back was a heroin dealer.
During that time, there was a shortage in silver and a lot of American aristocrats were selling heroin
to Chinese drug lords
and they would go trade heroin
for silver and I'm just
putting that out there because that's something that happened
around that era, you know?
Is heroin being sold to Chinese drug lords?
Yeah, you did have the British when they were trying
to open up the Chinese market. They flooded it with opium.
Indeed. And then that gave them a just cause
as soon as they cut off the opium supply, then a war broke out.
Yeah, the Frank Lucas of white people probably
brought ketchup back.
There are a lot of things that
Like apparently like the Ketsop thing or Ketzer or whatever is super old.
Like there's legends of it going back.
Like it's ancient pungent fish or whatever.
It's wild when you, like rolling dice.
These things have been around for like thousands of years.
We just kept them.
And we're still so primitive.
Like the word building,
there are words where the word indicates what it is.
Like what are you doing?
I'm building.
What are you building?
A building.
Like that's how great of people get and then they just stop.
That's the level we're at right now as humans.
we're still calling.
Well, have you seen where the word for soap, the root word, existed in Western Europe and also among
the Aboriginal Australians.
So if you look at a map of like the word soap, and the aboriginals, they called it a Sabu, I think,
or Abu.
And it's the same root word as soap.
And the most interesting thing about all of this is this word traveled all throughout Africa,
East Asia, Europe, and it missed India.
And I'm not even joking.
I'm not even joking.
It somehow missed India.
I don't know.
You can extrapolate that.
from what you want.
Not even joking.
That is anthropology.
Like I, you know, I'm sorry, it is what it is.
Not even, not even joking.
I'm not, it's like, pull up the map.
I mean, you know, I hate this, you know,
I don't like saying that.
Actually, another, another pretty interesting thing
is because, you know, just because we're at
the poker go studios, poker is like a thousand years old.
Oh, right.
Really?
There's a, there's a bunch of different theories
as the origin, but one of them is that it was like in Germany,
there was like, there was like a bowl with cups
or like, you know, like around it, and everybody would get out the card, and the king was the best,
and then you had rocks or pebbles, and you'd wager them, and you'd say, like, I'm knocking,
who's there, I am the king, I don't believe you, and so this is like the root of poker.
Yeah, it was a single card game, and then whoever the highest card won, that's all it was.
That's like how in chess, like all of the words are derived from, like, ancient Persian.
Like, checkmate was like Chuck Mott's, and it meant the king is in danger.
And chess is something like 15 hundred years old as well
And it made its way over to the west
Do you know soap is what stopped the plague?
So yeah
Yeah in Europe they used to bathe and eat
In the same pots they cooked in
And the moors conquered certain parts of Europe
And introduced soap and that's what stopped the plague
You know what's funny is that ancient Rome had toilets
And then after the civilization collapsed
They just started chucking shit out the windows onto the floor
No but for real like in these medieval villages
They just take a bucket and they'd throw out the window
on. Right. Like what
happened? So that actually
has been worried about what's going on right now.
Because if we do go into a
total social collapse, we lose
Instagram Reels. I know.
There's no point of me being alive if that happens.
Well, I think
actually, speaking of that, they're going to ban it.
Instagram Reels? Like the Carousel
style? No, like social media for kids.
Oh, yeah. The Australians have already done so.
Exactly. And as other countries talking about doing it, I think
they should. Well, I would actually, I would challenge
you on that. I think with the Australians,
I've always maintained this policy, which is when the left throws the right of bone.
You should always be skeptical of why that's occurring.
And I think the reason the Australian government banned social media for under 16
is because ideas are being disseminated to kids that were turning them more right wing.
Therefore, they want to get on top of that.
I don't think it was like a, you know, usually we operate against parents.
But in this instance, we're going to join forces with parents to ensure their children are safe.
I think we should ban the social media.
And then when a kid gets caught using it, we beat them.
Singapore style.
I've got a serious question.
Flogging.
How did we get completely clean before wet wipes?
Completely clean?
Like, what do you mean?
Like your butt?
Ribs.
We didn't.
I don't think we did.
It was like they would look at the pork ribs.
I'd be like, I wish I could eat it.
But my hands will get dirty.
Just go to Memphis and everyone's hands just nasty.
No one knew what to do?
There's only some sort of satchel with a moist towel in it.
I don't know.
I mean, they used a fork and a knife.
Do you think I have Memphis is, you know, I'm from there?
I think Buffalo Wings weren't invented until like 15 years ago.
Yeah, I don't remember Buffalo Wings in the 90s.
It's because you couldn't wash your hands.
And so the chicken existed, but we had not yet invented cutting its legs off and deep frying them and rolling it in sauce.
Right.
I don't know about that.
We hadn't figured it out.
No one cracked the code.
I heard the Scottish figured it.
I heard the Scottish invented fried chicken.
Well, they fry everything.
They fry like chocolate.
bars. They're like a bunch of freaks.
Because there's a lot of Scottish people that came
over to the U.S. and they went into the south, and that's
why part of the reason why it's
Southern fried chicken. If you listen to country music, it sounds
remarkably similar. It's like Ulster folk
music. No single person
invented fried chicken. That's a lie.
That is an absolute lie. There was a
first person who did it. We all know it. But they say
it came from ancient frying methods with Scottish
immigrants bringing deep frying techniques
and West Africans contributing crucial
seasonings, creating the iconic
southern dish in the American South.
Bro, I don't care about your secret spices,
I care about it being deep-fried.
It's how the first interracial couple was born.
It was a group project.
It's a very beautiful thing.
What happened was the Scottish guy was carrying his fresh-fried chicken,
and he bumped into this West African woman
who spilled all over spices into his chicken bucket,
and then they looked at each other, and it was loved.
And they fell in love.
Oh, my God.
It was a beautiful love story.
And then they were hanged for, for...
Issemination being illegal, so...
The Scottish came to the South, like a lot of Scottish people settled in the U.S.
South, and that's...
I was one of them.
Were you really?
400 years ago.
Oh, well, yeah.
Aren't they the reason for the term?
Well, I don't want to say.
Cracker?
Scottish.
The etymology of crackers is not certain.
Is that something your family history would know a lot about it?
We were broke.
You are paid.
You could afford to.
We are.
We are paid.
We were more, the Irish was a more our price range.
That's kind of funny.
Don't accuse my family of having slaves.
We were poor.
Yeah.
Irish sells a little more our...
No, yeah.
Well, the common etymology
that people explain for crackers,
the whip cracking,
but that's not actually true.
It was referring...
Yeah, I mean, you take it away.
Wasn't it because that
there'd be like an old white guy
in a rocking chair next to a barrel
full of crackers outside of a convenience store?
No, that's funny.
No, they were...
The suspected etymology is that
the Scots Irish
when they would ride on these chuck wagons
because they were such hooligans.
I'm using the Irish slur there intentionally.
They would be cracking up.
They would be lacking up.
laughing quite a bit to the cell.
These Scots are, they barely work.
There's a much of Cracker.
They're always cracking up.
Here it comes from Middle English crack, crack crack crack cracker.
Cracker meaning a boaster.
Someone that boasts.
And then from Shakespeare,
a noisy boaster, one of those lines.
What cracker is this same that deaf sour ears?
He's asking about the dude.
This is my favorite etymology is do you know the etymology of hillbilly?
No, talk to me.
So this is a really interesting one.
So if you go to Scotland and a lot of Protestants there identify as Billy Boys.
And this goes back to.
William of Orange, obviously he was this sort of Protestant, insurgent, insurgent King and England.
And so a lot of the Protestants sided with them.
So if you were siding with William of Orange, you were there for a Billy Boy.
You were a supporter of King Billy.
And so what happened is a lot of these Scots-Irish from Ulster and a lot of Scottish migrants from like the Lowlands,
then came to the United States.
They still held that allegiance in some ways to King William of Orange.
And since they moved into the Appalachians, they became Billy Boys, Hill Billy Boys, Hill, Billy's.
So that's where the term.
Not when I'm 100% sure on.
I was thinking about the history of the word cracker while you were talking.
Because it's like if it means somebody that boasts and there's a bunch of black dudes in like 1820 or 1870 being like,
you know, these motherfuckers won't shut the fuck.
They talk so much shit.
They're cracked.
These are the crackers that we read about from Shakespeare.
There was also a vagrant class of like Irish people that lived like in the 13 colonies,
like in Georgia and places like that in the swamps.
And they were really like gangster tough guys.
And they were referred to as that as well because they just kicked up.
a lot of dust cause a lot of trouble.
You know what I mean?
Rob people, you know.
They were probably, they call them crap.
The problem with the, like the left likes to push this, that it was the whip crack.
Right.
The problem is that the left only understands slavery as like field worker, slave, slaves being beaten.
And it completely omits the entire economics of slavery, which is people were working in shops.
A lot of it was an indentured servitude.
Right.
Yeah.
Right.
Or evolved from.
Right.
Like, there were slaves who worked.
cobblers. And they're making shoes. There's no whip crack for a guy working in a shoes
store. The interesting about slavery is actually was like the last thing holding back total
industrialization because like for example, the British Empire struggled to really industrialized
until they outwalled slavery because it propped up like a, what's the word I'm looking
for? Proped up export of crops. Forget the word. It's a grain. It propped up in a grain society.
This is why they north developed so much more quickly than the South is, A, the South had,
for a variety of reasons, a decentralized culture. This comes from the Normans, et cetera.
But mainly because the South relied on slavery to prop up their agricultural industry,
and they had no need to develop machines because labor was everywhere.
It was cheap.
It was essentially free in many ways.
And so they never actually needed to develop machines because they had human labor versus in the north where slavery was outlawed.
They're just like, well, labor costs are really expensive.
Let me just see if I can make a machine to, you know, eliminate the need for a human being.
So, yeah, industrialization really took off following the outlaw of slavery.
And another element of that is a lot of single white males that came to this country during that time were indentious.
slaves and had to actually work for families if they didn't have children, you know, because the
population was so low. If you didn't have a family and have children to give to the country,
then you had to work as an indentured slave to a man who had children and a family and helped
them tend to their farm and be productive citizens. Could you imagine if that happened today?
I mean, I don't know that we'll go there, but they're like, we need a workforce. Every family
gets a slave as long as you have a child in the house. We'll get you one foreign worker that
will be yours to do as you wish with. Well, in many ways, I mean, there is compulsory.
compulsive,
mandatory labor
that comes in part
with like an H1B visa
because your status
in the country
is entirely dependent
on your employer.
So if you stop showing up to work,
you're going to get deported.
You're fired and deported.
I'll say something controversial.
If you have a loan,
you're an indentured slave.
Yeah.
So, I mean, we sell debt,
you know,
I mean,
we sell the debt of people
who have loans
to foreign people.
So, I mean,
if you have a debt, man,
you're...
That's the Christian ethic behind
out, like,
the outlong of usury.
That's why we had
usry laws is because
we said you were,
man would view you as less than if he held interest on you, if he held a debt over your head
that was accumulating. And so that's why usury was a sin because it would lessen your view
of another individual because you're saying, this guy owes me a bunch of money and that interest
is racking up. Usory was just charging interest on debt. You know, there's an interesting
video on YouTube. I can't remember the guy's name because my brain isn't working, but they
went around in the 30s and interviewed ex-slaves, people who survived slavery, and they
talk to this guy who was a slave about loans and debt, and he just could not understand the
concept. It's a great video to listen to. They asked him like what he thought about interest
rates and shit. And he's like, man, basically what? Like, if you can't afford it, why are you
buying it? Like, I don't get how I could owe you money. You know what I mean? Like, I do the work
and you give me what I need for the work and it's over with. So, yeah. I think use, I don't know
if I have this entirely straight, but usury is still outlawed in Islam, widely accepted as a sin in Islam.
the way that a lot of these Islamic countries are able to bank, like in the 21st century,
correct me if I'm wrong, Serge may know, but I believe what they do is they sort of estimate
what the interest would be, how much interest would accumulate, and they front load that.
So you pay a fee up front in addition to your loan.
So your actual loan doesn't accumulate interest.
You're just paying a normal, you know, a standard rate throughout the duration of the loan,
but the interest was front loaded at the beginning.
So that's how people in the Middle East are able to, like, acquire like a mortgage or a long-term
loan. So you've got a million dollars, you get 700,000 of it, and then you just have to pay back
a million, basically. Yeah, yeah. So you just, there's like, it's like a down payment in some ways.
That's how they're able to conduct banking and countries with usury laws. Yeah. And usury was
banned in Europe until like the 15th, 16th century because they needed money for wars.
Yeah, I mean, look, capital markets have have really benefited the, the country largely,
but I do think that it because we don't educate people on how, how interest works and stuff,
people end up getting completely and totally underwater all the time.
That's why Middle Eastern countries never have recessions is because they don't have huge debt crises.
Crisis ease struggling to say worse today.
It's probably got something to do with the oil that most of them are sitting on too.
That as well.
But even countries, well, yeah, I mean, Turkey would be a bad example.
But they rarely, they don't have economic recessions on like scheduled 10 year durations like we do in the West where it's like every 10 years,
there's pretty much a crisis that occurs.
And there's huge crunch.
I think in my opinion, that's more of a product of the Fiat system that we use as opposed to just having capital markets.
Yeah, that's true.
When the government is setting the interest rate, because the price of money, right, that's what you're, that's what you're interest rate is that how much it costs to borrow money.
When the market itself sets the price of money, then you don't have the government trying to incentivize different areas by tax policy or by not trying to get people to take out loans by lowering the interest rate or,
get people to not take out loans by increasing the interest rate.
It's the manipulation of the market by the government that actually ends up,
you know, sending mixed messages to the market.
Yeah.
When you have a market that is allowed to price money at a rate that the market decides,
then you don't have the same kind of like, like the 2008 crisis wouldn't happen if the government
wasn't saying, oh, we want people to be able to take out loans and they were messing with the
credit, the credit, they were allowing people that didn't have good credit to take.
out more money in loans than they could actually pay back.
Right. And that's why like the central banks across the world are always incentivized to keep inflation like two to three percent because that that stimulates your economy that forces people to spend their money. Because if inflation is a zero percent, people will just sit on their money because it's not losing value. I'm learning a lot, but I'm bored.
Yeah, it's great.
I was thinking the same thing earlier. Can we go back to like the the sexual innuendos? I just want to have some fun. Everybody can understand it. Look, we got one more day left.
I'm sick of talking about interest rates.
Everybody's sick of listening.
I'm also, I don't know, scared's our word, but no regime change wars.
This is a big part of my life for 20 years.
Now you're for regime.
Yeah, because it's boring to say the same thing for 10 years.
I know.
The balloons out a whole new hell of it.
They wait you out.
This is how military orders work.
They just wait for the populists to quit complaining.
We haven't had a regime change war in 16 years.
Don't worry, don't worry.
Now look the other way.
We're going to do a regime change.
No, no, no, no.
We haven't had one in 16 years.
So now it's good because we get at least.
one every so often.
Think about how we should do.
This one will be different.
Hey, we launch rocks, like little or little cannonballs,
but we tie hydrogen balloons to them.
So they fly in the end and then they land on the beaches of Venezuela.
Then we can, you know, shoot them with Dragon's Breath.
That could work.
I think it's a particularly ineffective means of combat
because maybe a bullet would just do a better job.
The range on Dragon's Breath isn't all that far.
I think everyone's bored with hearing the same thing over and over again.
So for the sake of just being entertaining,
I'm in favor of regime change war.
Let's start with Canada.
You know, let's do two v three.
I'm in favor as well.
Name a country.
They probably need to be top.
I met this Canadian guy a few days ago.
And he was talking to me.
He asked me like what I did.
I said, I do politics.
And he was like, oh, he's like, yeah, I'm from Canada.
And I was like, oh, yeah, the Canadians hate me more than anybody.
And he was like, why is it?
And I was like, because I made a joke where I said we were going to conquer Canada and
subjugate it.
Yeah.
And now there's like, no group of people wants to murder me more than Canadians.
Yeah, literally.
Did he wanted to fight you?
No, no, he was laughing.
and he was like, oh, yeah, yeah, you were there.
He laughed and he's like, yeah, that sounds like Canada.
And I was like, yeah, everyone acts like they're polite,
but they're sitting there waiting with a blade behind their back to get you.
He was like an Alberta guy, I think, Alberta.
He was saying how different it is across the country.
Yeah.
You haven't found an article yet?
See, we got to verify this before I just blurt it out.
Yeah.
On X?
New York Times reporting the Brown shooter found dead.
Yeah, I just saw.
Whoa.
Was he brown?
I think he was.
Coincidentally.
Two minutes ago.
Breaking news, ladies and gentlemen, let's hit this.
We got this story.
I can't, I can't read it.
Oh, no.
I got to log in.
All right, let's go back to trying to thank you for reading the Times.
What does this say?
That's so stupid.
They're nickel and diamond.
It's a form of usury.
Paywalls.
Load times.
Load times.
They just want extra money.
That's what it is.
They want my time.
I noticed the ad always loads before.
Well, just wait until someone else reports it because otherwise I got to log in.
Like on YouTube, all the ad loads in crystal clear 4K and then the video doesn't load.
Person of interest.
No, that's not the brown shooter.
Person of interest found dead.
The authorities found the man's body and a storage unit in Salem.
Yeah.
Two law enforcement officials said they added that they believe he was also connected to killing of an MIT professor this week.
That sounds, this is weird.
It sounds like you're trying to shut it down.
Yeah.
Did they find a note on them?
How was he a person of interest?
Like, you know, what, yeah.
Who said they were a person of interest?
And was he brown?
The question still remains.
Is he a person interested, an interesting person?
Yeah.
They've not identified the person.
But could this just be another victim?
It could be.
It's possible.
It's the storage wars.
It went kinetic.
No.
What if what's happening is that the deep state has lost control for some time now,
and so all the wet work they're doing in desperate.
Yeah, they're trying desperately to re-
gain control so taking people out but it's
just they don't have the means of keeping it under wraps anymore
so we're figuring it out the internet has changed
it all wait wait hold on hold on
we need to get more viewers on this show
because it's like we're in the off season
Israel did it
yeah that sounds about right
I don't know Israel versus Samas
France versus Israel
it was Anne Frank's great grandson
Tony Frank
how did she have a kid
that's a good question
Who's better?
Israel?
It's all in the Diary of An Frank Part 2.
It's the DLC.
Yeah.
It's like Mormonism.
It's coming out a little later.
Yeah, there's seasons now, right?
Yeah, it's every season.
Who can we blame that we'll get us a lot of clicks?
I mean, you just went to the top notch, right?
Or top dog.
Israel's pretty much as good as it gets, I think.
There's going to like a bunch of chat and they're going to be like, whoa, they're right.
I mean saying anything.
Well, Timcast gets it now.
This guy's finally.
No, they're going to post things like so close.
Yeah.
They were so close, Tim.
Now you're joking around.
You got the call.
Yeah, I got the call.
I did.
Yeah, but it wasn't, it was Israel.
It's like, I'm getting the call guys.
Domino's?
No, I got a call and it was a lot and he asked me what I wanted from for lunch.
And I said I wanted to get, if they have gluten-free bread, I get a roast beef with Swiss and mustard.
I like the mustard.
And he asked me what side I wanted.
You get a matzah.
Well, I said coleslaw, but I'm not going to eat it.
I mean, just, you know, so get whatever.
That's the most anti-white thing I've ever heard.
You're not eating coleslaw.
Yeah, no.
That's like, personal life.
But like, they give you that little thimble thing full of coleslaw.
I was like, I don't want it.
Yeah, it's just like a sampler.
Yeah, what is that for?
Just like squeezing your mouth and then you're done.
A shot.
The best coleslaw is like just vinegar, sugar and.
Sugar?
Yeah, vinegar and shredded cabbage.
With vinegar splashed on it.
A little bit sugar.
That's how you turn it in shit up.
What?
You know what I'm to do?
I think he was making funny.
I'm just, I've been feeling real dark lately over everything that's going on.
So I think,
Is everything I write it on the floor?
No, what I'm going to do is when we get back is I'm going to fill up a bowl with M&Ms,
but I'm going to put like a little bit of skittles in it.
Oh, that's, that's low.
Yeah.
That's what you do when you really hate yourself.
That's going to turn you into a person in interest.
That's all right.
What happens when the guests show up, they have a bowl of M&Ms, I'm just sitting there
stare and I'm like this.
You got one waiting.
And they're going to be like, they're going to grab them and go.
it overloads their sensory system
they have like a health crisis
or you know what you do
you tell someone
you ask if they want milk
but then you give them orange juice
do you ever happen to you
yeah
and then your brain freaks out
because it's like acidic
so it instantly tricks your brain
into thinking it's spoiled
that's what happened
that's my dad when he met his in-laws
for the first time
they made him coffee
and they had salt in the sugar thing
and so he was putting salt
and he's like
there are coffee's nasty
but I can't say anything
I don't want to offend them
This is my first time with their household.
So we just choke down like three cups of salty.
Same kind of thing when you expect still water and you end up with bubbly water.
Yeah, or when you're expecting water and it's pee.
What?
Is that relatable?
Yeah, I mean, that makes sense.
So it's just warm and saltyish.
Well, it's because it's because he bottles it and stores it, you know, for a later use.
I hope it's your pee.
That's my brother's pee.
He laughed and laughed.
You're really close to losing that Kalshi bet.
Oh, man.
What's the bet?
What's the bet?
Before the show started, one of the chatter said,
that Colchee is giving it a 57.4% chance that Ian will mention his penis.
No, because the pee came out of his penis.
Oh, right.
Jokes on you.
Completely different penis.
Skittling to the Coleslaw is crazy.
It's going to cause a riot between the Aryan brothers and the blacks in prison.
Oh, right.
Did you guys, do you guys remember when the New York Times had to put peas in your guacamole?
What?
And it united.
It united the left and the right.
Really?
Everybody hated it.
They, like, literally Jank Yugar and, like, Gavin McHas were holding hands in outrage.
Oh, I'm kidding.
not those specifically, but literally everybody was like,
they want, I want to punch the editor in the face.
Who told us put peas in our guacamole.
Yeah.
Fox News hit on the Brown shooter.
That can be.
He was white.
He was white.
Brown shooter?
The Brown shooter was white.
Here we go.
A high play source has just told Fox News that the suspected shooter was found dead
from a self-inflicted gunshot wound.
But they didn't confirm if the brown shooter was brown.
And this is just a.
This is the two Pete Kill 2.
And maybe the MIT guy as well.
That is a weird one.
I cannot.
I don't think those things are remotely related.
That is bizarre.
We'll find out.
If this is a big ploy to get that MIT guy dead and then shut the whole thing down and be like, look, it was just some random thing that happened.
Everybody, go back to sleep.
Maybe.
Maybe.
We'll see.
Maybe Ian drinks his own urine.
No, my brother's urine.
Shout out to Max.
I'm worried because I'm not sure if he's joking.
No, I'm not joking.
No, he was pissed.
I chased him in my parents' room.
He was laughing and he checked him.
I was like, he made me drink my pee!
And they were like,
it's not funny!
It's not funny.
Why is that you?
Is that what happened to you?
Like you were like a normal kid,
you're like straight A's and then you drank pee and this was what happened.
Yeah, he was like, hey, want some water?
I was playing Nintendo and he was like, want some water.
I was like, that was nice of him.
Yeah, of course.
He came out with this blue plastic cup that I couldn't see through.
And I was like, took a sip and I spit out here immediately.
This is like a very woman thing to do, like telling stories that are.
really embarrassing much. But he's
been holding on this trauma for like 50 years.
I think about it every few years.
He's healing right now and you're just mocking him.
You know what people are surprised on that Ian's 50?
Almost.
And but it's because he drinks pee.
46.
What does his taste like?
Like warm, salty sweat
with a little more.
A little more.
You know what I mean.
A little more.
A little more.
Because the aroma is the aroma present in the taste.
For sure.
Hold on, hold on.
Up in your science.
This doesn't sound like a story
if you accidentally one time
being tricked in a sip piss.
Sounds like you do it a lot.
It sounds like you're a pissed Somalié.
I may have framed.
Was he dehydrated?
What ethnicity is the best thing?
No.
I couldn't see the urine
because it was in a solid blue plastic.
I have a strong odor if he was.
It wasn't strong.
No, I didn't smell it coming up.
It was only when it was in.
So he was hydrated.
Ian, have you ever had a smore?
This is delicious.
Yeah.
Did he feel about us?
I don't think so
No, his...
Would you drink it?
It's buzzin for 50 years.
He breaks cooked.
Would you take...
Would you drink anything your brother gave you again?
I don't know if you guys saw the after show with John Otto.
He was actually talking about
studies that urine therapy, they call it,
where people drink urine.
And everyone was like, you know,
he had me going on this red light thing.
It's like until he started talking about how he drinks his own urine.
And now I'm not so sure.
But apparently there's antibodies in it that get lost.
And a lot of it's just about regulating blood pressure.
Yeah, you just run it through the system
in case you missed on a nutrient.
I'm not trying to, like, spread the shame.
I'm still feeling, you know, he got me.
I drank his pee.
Did you see it coming?
Did you get revenge?
Yes.
One time he was peeing on the garage outside, and I was like, Max, you can't pee on the wall.
And he was like, ha, ha, ha, ha.
So I grabbed his, you know, penis and made him pee in his own face.
We were kids.
That's what you do.
Sorry, Max.
I've never done that.
You never did that to Chris?
Where did you grow up, Epstein Isle?
No, just on a farm.
Not really.
By the way, close to a farm.
Gosh.
You know.
Like our viewer count is just dropping the more Ian talks about us.
I gotta be honest, it's my curse of blessing and a curse.
I don't know about the blessing part.
Yeah.
If you drink fish, you can guess his penis size.
Like,
be accurate with that.
Oh, right.
Yeah.
I don't understand.
The skirt.
Yeah.
So I grabbed his penis and made a penis.
Yeah,
that's just a relatable childhood story, Tim, you know?
Some of us, I did monkey bars.
I peed on him one time when he was really little.
Oh, this is crazy.
He was getting.
me back for that when he made me drink his pee.
And then did he respond after the
No, we've de-escalated after a bad.
Did you gargle it? There was an armistice.
No. I just knew.
Do you see an instance where this kicks off again?
Like the ceasefire breaks?
No, I think we're good now.
Can you forgive him?
Yeah.
The peace vibe.
I just want him to be happy.
Magnanimous is the way to go.
Yeah, you know, spread the love.
You know, then his kids will be happier too.
Right.
You don't want that generational trauma.
So Trump ends with you.
Trump actually did make Christmas
and...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So it's an executive order.
So it's actually a new federal holiday.
All right.
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Shannon Twyler says,
Merry Christmas to all of you.
I hope you all have a blessed one filled with love and family.
You as well.
You as well.
Shillipi says Trump is endorsing Tony Gonzalez over Brandon Herrera.
Please, for the love of God, let him know that Tony is a traitor as Rhino.
Brandon is a million times better.
Wait, wait, well, hold on.
Was Tony Gonzalez that guy or that lady lit herself on fire?
That is the one.
Is he the football tight end?
No.
That's what I'm thinking of, but I'm...
He's the current...
He's the current congressman from that district,
and yes, he is the guy that was alleged to have been having an affair with the woman that set herself on fire and died.
Because they...
Or was found set on fire.
I'm not sure if it was actually self-inflicted or not.
All right.
A slice of reality says, Tim, you should give Ian and Phil a bonus for dealing with last night's guest,
whose reality detachment made Candace's...
his Charlie Kirk conspiracies look credible.
It was fine.
That's the guy that kept cutting you off?
He was doing a whole lot of gist, galloping.
Yeah, it was.
Well, the booking team knew that I was doing the poker stream on the 17th.
He had been, I think, scheduled for the sec for Tuesday.
And he had canceled.
So he wanted to meet up with you Tuesday, but he had some other engagement.
So he had to miss it.
I thought it was pretty good, though.
It was pretty fun.
I think it's more stressful for the audience than anybody on the actual show itself.
Maybe you were, I saw you moments where you were chomping at it.
Like getting ready to go on to other times where you're just like like like like, uh, in a chrysalis.
I had to lock in sometimes.
Yeah, the audience wanted us to like start yelling yelling back at him and stuff.
You know, you know, that was my first like on camera debate.
So I need, I do need a bit of time to sort of develop and then I'll be yelling.
I'll be crashing out.
Also, I hadn't prepped any of the facts that were brought up.
And I'm like, I couldn't fact check everything fast enough.
Yeah, because we were talking about like legal immigration.
He's like the interest rate.
And I'm like, what does that?
The thing is he wanted the like he was like I was saying.
earlier on the pre-show.
Like he wanted to basically just posture and tell everyone how much he had a Trump.
What, Ian, I'll give you some of guys advice.
Like a debate tip is when someone gish gallops, just accuse them of drinking their own urine.
I smell it on you?
Yeah, but I mean, I don't want it anywhere near me.
So, you know, thank you, sir.
In all seriousness, it actually is a debate tactic that we were talking about the other day where Trump did that thing where he goes,
I'm sorry.
Your breath is very bad.
It's very bad.
I don't told you that.
And he's like, it's a negotiation.
tactic. That's an ad hominem.
But apparently Trump was saying
he said it as a negotiating tactic. So you're sitting down with a guy
and he's like, look, we can't afford to pay you one. He said,
Spagnus, look, I'm sorry. I got to move back.
Your breath is terrible.
With Brian, Shapiro, I thought about you
at one point. I could have been like, hold on, hold on, you just brought up
five points. You got to prove the first one
before we move on at the second one. I could have done that.
But I felt like it would have put
like a stick in the spokes of the wheels
of the show. So I was just like,
I don't know, just listen.
You know, our audience is just very
smart. They are very smart. They're high IQ. You know, in all seriousness, though, I hear this so often
from my people in the Beltway about how everybody watches Tim Kest, I, or L. And I'm like, yeah,
yes. Everybody in high-level politics and around the political space watches the show. That's not a lot
of people. I mean, don't get me wrong. It's a big show. I'm just saying the perception that people in
politics have is that this is like the biggest show ever when it's not because it's the biggest show in
their universe, or I should say biggest, but like one of the biggest shows in the political
universe among the very small community of very politically active people.
Yeah, I think it's a phenomenon where a lot of, I don't want to say like the leader,
the thought leaders, sometimes you'll get shows where like the leaders watch that show
because it's, well, it's because we use two big words, you know what I'm saying?
Well, you can't overstate the cultural impact of the show, right?
Like people from Congress want to come here, people from D.C., they want to come here because
you reach an audience that they're trying to reach.
Yeah.
So.
I think we just have to use smaller words.
I agree.
And make more fart jokes.
No more big.
Next year is going to be all about fart jokes, toilet humor.
And we're going to bring back the soundboard.
With Greta Toonberg going, how dare you?
How dare you?
No more big words.
No,
I'll dare you my Tucker Carl's invitation in the new year.
Yeah, yeah.
A big word from Tate that we can put on repeat on the thing.
No, no, we got to get like hot moments every other week.
Like we had no more de-rassonation.
Swallow farted.
Cheat.
An election.
Cheat.
An election.
You could, uh, we should cocoa melon max.
Yeah, yeah, we should be like maximizing our cocoa melon style aesthetics.
How funny it would be if like in one year from now it's just all toilet humor that barely
talks about news.
The viewership is like 10x.
And politicians are like, I want to come on that.
That's how Trump got elected.
We put a picture of Trump up.
Picture of AOC.
Boo.
Actually, that'd be kind of
And we're just sitting around.
Oh,
applause and goo.
Just randomly like search hits a button and AOC appears on the screen.
We go, oh,
ooh, gross.
She's sneaky.
And then there's a, we just flash on the screen.
It says laugh.
It's like a laugh now.
Yeah, I need that.
You are having fun.
You are enjoying the show.
We do that.
Like and subscribe.
Like and subscribe is like, you know,
dangling some keys.
I feel like the show is very much too hoity-to-oity.
You know, it's like,
if you insist upon watching the show to learn more, please click the like button.
That's right.
Instead of being like, if you don't click the like button, I'm a fuck you up.
Yeah.
If it was on Rumble only, not that there's no, you still have to censor yourself a little bit.
Like you can't say things that would be construed as illegal, but I'd be fucking flying if we were on like a non-censored.
It's tough for me.
I say crazy stuff on my show.
On YouTube?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, like what do you say?
What do you say?
It just depends on how I feel.
My show is all about jokes.
So I don't have no nose.
What if you feel real good?
I mean, then I'm going to say some real good stuff.
You know what I mean?
I like that.
You know, I'll beat.
Everybody's happy.
Ian's drinking his own piss.
I'm open to that, actually.
Bottoms up.
Yeah, John Otto convinced me.
On the after show, could we...
Pissing my mouth?
Tomorrow night, end of the year show,
Ian drinks at least a shot glass of urine.
Real talk?
I have to pee right now.
And I have a cup right here.
Well, you've drink your own pee on the after show.
It's our last after show at the New York.
No.
I'm going to go pee on the year.
Tim got nervous because he thought I'd say, yes.
I drank no way in here.
You want to drink my piss.
No, not you.
I don't think we're supposed to drink each other's peed.
The after show tomorrow, the last after show of the year.
There is it.
It's Friday.
This is the last after show of the year, so this needs to get done.
Stick around.
Ian's going to drink his pee tonight.
We'll neither confirm or deny that fact.
NNY says it's really unsightly that Phil was left to deal with a golem,
a golem conjured by bad Reddit takes while Tim plays cards.
Tisked him.
That is just not nice to say it.
about me. I mean, I'm like, you know, I try my best, but I killed yesterday. Liv. Lives
Pro, but she was running so hot and she played very well. But I played, I won two hands the
whole night and four hours. Speaking of, I haven't even heard the story yet. What happened?
I haven't heard the story of your tournament or seen the show or anything. I don't know why everyone
keeps saying tournament. It's like people are all mentally retarded. I thought it was a really
every single person is, is a exhibition. It was a cash game. A single poker game.
And it's like, no matter how many, no. The
cash game. Could you re-buy? Yes, I didn't have to. Okay. I'm a winner. How many rebys did you get?
What do you mean? It's a cash game. Well, then the guy with unlimited money would win every game.
You can only buy in for 5K, yes. Oh, okay. Yeah, and, and, uh, I think one dude bought in like 15K.
It kept losing. King Cap.
Shame one. He was, uh, I think it was a second, was he second lowest.
Maybe he might have been third lowest. He was funny though. He was a good dude. Buying three times.
Who was it? King Cap.
Oh.
Yeah, he was a funny guy.
Him and Jerry were real funny guys.
Nikki Limmo was on it.
I've known her from back to the day.
She got crushed.
The thing was that Haley, she's really good and doesn't care if she loses like 20 grand.
So I just played the hands that I could play.
And I had people saying like, Tim, you didn't even play.
I'm like, bro, give me anything to play.
I played five, six suited, early position.
Yeah.
Because I wasn't trying to play nitty, but I didn't have anything.
I'm like, you want to play king three off suit?
I'm not playing knit.
Right.
we were talking about, because you want to be entertaining.
You're doing a show.
It's not just about winning.
But I wanted to play well.
So I didn't want to sit there.
So in one instance, my favorite hand of the night I folded,
because people don't know a good poker is.
I had 9-10 suited under the gun, which is a very loose open.
But I'm like, I don't want to sit here on night not playing.
So I got 9-10-2.
I'll play it.
We'll see what happens.
And then I think what happens, it calls around like four or five players.
Actually, I think it was like six players.
The flop comes out 9-25 with two hearts,
25.
And so I got top pair with a flush redraw, which is really strong.
And then I bet 140.
And then Haley bets 500 right away because, like, I knew exactly what she was doing.
She had five deuce.
She had two pair.
And then I think it folds to live, who raises to 1,600.
And I'm like, she's obviously got a set, fold.
Yeah.
And the announcer's like, a huge fold from pool.
Because, yeah, giving up top pair with.
a flush redraw, I could have won.
But she hit a boat, and I would have lost, and folding was the right move.
I was way behind.
Two pair to my left and it set to my right, I was behind.
But technically, I was 30% with dead money in the pot, so I could have went for it, and I would have lost.
But I thought it was a good move.
It looks like the police have done a press conference, and they've identified the shooter now.
Oh, all right.
Let's get it.
Here we go.
An individual was identified as Claudio Nevis Valenti, date of birth, and he was of 48,
year old man. He sounds brown.
He was a brown student.
He was a brown student.
And his last known address was
in Miami, Florida. Whoa.
And I will tell you that he took his own life
tonight. We have members of the
province police department up in Salem, Massachusetts
New Hampshire. And we also
have the BCI unit.
Obviously, the FBI and their
evidence recovery unit is up there.
So the process is being
conducted as we speak.
And it goes without saying that I would like to
personally thank the efforts again of the province police department the
Rhode Island State Police the Rhode Island Attorney General the FBI the ATF
HSI the US Marshals IRS VEA
Everyone secret service
WTP
All right so we know he was a Brown student now did he attend Brown University that's the question
I still don't know yeah he was a Portuguese national so he wasn't it was a non it was a
a legal permanent resident.
Was this English good enough to lead a press conference?
That guy?
Yes.
You go straight through jail.
That man, he goes also straight to jail.
That man, he is dead.
That man, he died.
Yeah, he speaking.
The thing is he held it down.
Actions are fine.
This is the brown.
Remember when Shane Gillis got fired because he did an Asian accent or whatever?
Yeah.
It was a good one too.
It was, too.
And as an Asian man myself, I would, my heart was warmed that he was including me.
And then they fired him because they were racist.
That was, unfortunately.
Yeah, Tim Gets viewers don't know.
Tim sounds like he puts this accent on for the show,
but he actually sounds like that when the cameras are off.
It's really strange, but he's professional.
He's professional.
Yeah, this is an affectation.
This is, I studied very, very hard to be able to speak proper English.
Because normally I talk right.
That's true.
If you ever wonder why Tim...
If you watch the uncensored portion of the show on rumble.com
slash Timcast, IRL.
What are you doing?
If you ever think Tim seems stressed on cameras,
because he's trying to do that goofy accent, his American accent.
It drains my focus.
Normally, I can do like,
like 16 digit divided by like decimals, just boom,
hot my head instantly,
but constantly focusing and struggling to talk all good.
When he's off camera and he gets mad,
he just starts talking to binary.
It's really something to see.
The tone.
We got some superchats here.
We got, what does that say?
I can't read it so small.
What is that?
Mama.
Mama Otter?
There's two M's in it.
Tim, thank you for calling out Candice.
agree with you 100%. I've been a Timcast member for four years and it's moments like that.
I've never regretted my membership.
Well done, fine, sir.
You do you.
You have my support.
Merry Christmas.
Here's your year and bonus.
Thank you so much.
I really do appreciate it.
Guys, the reality is like talking with Graham too.
We lose viewers by calling her out for lying.
But she's lying.
She's lying nonstop.
Like, I'll just say it again.
According to my sources in the security, I don't, I'm saying this because I want to be very clear.
I don't want you to be misled in any way.
My source is.
in the security industry have confirmed to me,
Candice used the same security Charlie did
at certain points of her career, whatever.
I don't know.
I'm not saying she's doing it right now
because I don't think she is.
And she's lying when,
and she's in Weasel wards like,
I never employed them.
Right, because they were hired on her behalf
or something like this.
But come on.
She worked with Turning Point.
Of course, she'd go to an event
with the same security people.
The same exact people that she accused,
like claim we're going to these crazy meetings.
She's making it up.
And she doesn't care.
Bridget, there's pictures of Bridget,
Brigitte McCrone from like 40 years ago.
It's a woman.
And Brigitte McCrone is like 5'4 and 110 pounds like a woman.
It's just so weird that this poor old lady got nasty plastic surgery
and looks all weird and she goes, that's a guy.
And people eat it up.
That's crazy.
Candice just roll in the grifter dollars.
It's really obvious though.
Did you guys see that thing she did where she was like,
If you want to help with my security, go give me money on my website.
Oh, God.
And buy my book and my really awesome merch.
And I'm just like, there it is.
Slather it on.
You know, oh, no, my security, quick, donate to me.
She's making that money.
But, you know, a lot of people have now started to turn against her because of the whole stuff with Erica and meeting with Erica and all the stuff that she said after.
What she did in her video, she was like, these Zionists are dangerous people and they want to kill me.
So I need your money.
And it's just like so obvious
That there are really low
Cognitive Capability Americans
Okay, we call them Tylenol Americans
And they
They don't understand
So when she says the Zionists are out to get me
They go, oh, really?
She's pandering to people that already have a certain perspective
They already believe that, you know,
The Zionists control everything
And those people, they're just like, all right,
Candace is the one that's saying what I want to
to hear so they just go ahead and they say all right i'll give you money if you keep telling me what i want
what's what's what's a group of people that we can single out and demagogue against that will make us
rich but like won't get us canceled like i guess for for kansas it's the jews but i don't want to go
there that's just that's just mean little people little people i'd say we can go for the if you
look throughout media little people who want a home for the jews right i think we go like the irish
they control a lot of these yeah they're all they're all they shon annby bill o're
Hello, wake up America.
Bro, but when Ye came on the show,
we looked up who actually ran the big banks in America,
and it was a bunch of Irish guys.
The Irish, I'm telling you, it's a big problem.
Irish mafia, dude.
I got the call, I couldn't understand it.
It's too drunk.
It was in Gaelic.
No one speaks.
That's a dead language, and they were like, how dare you?
Yeah.
And they're bringing back, though.
It's true.
Do your research.
Well, yeah, friends, the Irish want to get me
because they want, you know, a home for the Irish.
They want all their marshmallows back from the lucky charles.
Right.
And you know what?
If they get me,
then I'm going to die because, you know, so you got to give me money.
Really the only way to stop the Irish from taking my life is for you to give money to me.
Go to Timcast.com and become a member.
And then I'll, you know, I don't know, buy gluten free.
Join the discard.
Pizza with it.
Fight the Irish.
Yeah.
They're looking for revenge because of the potato famine.
Yeah.
They're mad about it.
They don't stop talking about it.
Did we do that?
Did we famine them?
I don't think we did.
I wasn't around, but maybe I hold some culpability.
Here's a funny one from an invalid.
Buffalo Bill says,
Tim said he couldn't afford to make the show.
You want to watch him gamble with money you gave him.
He's going to lose.
He's not the one bleeding subscribers as he screams about Candace,
and I don't like her.
Tim KS.
Tyrell is up like 70,000 subscribers this month.
My other channel,
the solo channel where I made a bunch of videos by Candace
is down about 4K.
The money for the poker game, it's sponsors.
It's because I'm on a channel with a million subs
at the World Poker Tournament Championships.
So other companies are like,
we want you to represent us, and they sponsored me.
So I don't have to actually gamble my own money.
Tim, I have some news here about the Irish.
The potato blight was caused by a fungus-like pathogen,
fight up thorac infestins, which did come from the Americas.
We sent it there.
We sent it there on purpose.
That is.
You don't be really...
Cause.
It'd be really funny if, you know, like 10 years from now, there's this mass movement against the Irish.
And they're just like, the Irish are taking over and control our government.
Yeah.
And they're like, we need a homeland for the Irish.
It's been run over with Pakistan.
Send him to Catalina Island.
That's an option.
The Irish were in charge when Joe Biden was president, right?
Isn't he Irish?
And the Kennedys?
He was.
He was.
The Kennedys were Irish.
Very Irish.
It's a lot of Irish influence in this country.
Whoa, whoa.
Advanced Hunter says, hey, everyone, I'm a long time listener.
Just wanted to let everyone know.
I'm currently in labor and delivery awaiting the birth of my first child.
Merry Christmas.
Bravo.
Welcome to the World Patriot.
We have a lot of work to do.
We do.
Start reading tweets.
I love this.
I love this post right here from Buffalo Bill.
He's cognitively impaired, but it's okay.
We don't mind.
He's giving me money to complain about me.
Bro, you can call me all the names in the book as long as you're paying me to do it.
He says, Candace, 150K, Tim 17.
I don't like either, but he should have listened to Milo if he wants to fund the
compound.
Bro, I would take this keyboard and I would smash every piece of equipment I had before I
ever went Candace Owens's route.
She is a vile human being who lies to cognitively impaired individuals like you because
you are so stupid.
You have just given me $20 that I'm going to use.
I'm going to put it on roulette just for you.
and gamble it, you're giving me money to complain about me.
Bro, keep going.
Keep going.
Come on, I'll read them all.
This is the thing about Candace and what she does.
She targets the people that are too dumb, and she has no scruples.
Graham and I, as we pointed out on the show, we will lose viewers to do what's right.
And we're proud of them.
I don't need the money.
I'm not going to brag about being the biggest podcast in the world because I'm not a retard
who just does this so that you can click buttons.
I don't need it.
I will do other things for fun.
There are things in this world that need to be fixed.
There are things in this world that are broken.
Candice is the person who breaks them because she is evil.
We are the people who try to fix them,
and you, sir, are a follower of evil.
I hope one day you realize that,
but if not, just keep giving me your money
because apparently you're not smart enough to recognize.
I like taking it from you.
If you give him $100, you can actually pick
what he bets your $20 on to rule that.
That's true.
Go ahead and just $100 and tell him, you know, red, black.
All right, all right.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says,
Tim calling out King Cap over here based.
Oh, I don't know.
I thought it was really funny.
Him and Haley were just screaming at you
the whole time.
It was hilarious.
But the thing is, like,
Haley plays well and crazy,
and she's willing to flip off her whole stack
no matter what you have.
There was one hand where I actually could have played it better,
but I would have lost everything.
So I'm happy that I played it the way I did.
I had Ace King under the gun,
and I knew she was,
was going to raise no matter what I did. And she had junk. She had six eight. She had junk.
But of course she was going to. Because she was like, she got lucky. She got to my left.
So I limp, 10 bucks. She insta raises. It comes around. I call the 40 bucks. Missed the flop. And I'm out.
If I had raised there, she had a re-raised me. It would have gotten back to me. And then I would have
re-raised. She would have jammed. And then I'd either have to flip or fold. And she would have
hit two pair and beat me. And I would have lost six grand. So you can say that I shouldn't play as king that way. You're probably right.
but the way things were running out
and the way she was playing,
I think I played it well.
Who is Haley, by the way?
Haley Hanna.
Haley Hanna.
She plays crazy,
but she's actually pretty smart
how she does it.
Because every so often,
you don't know when she's being crazy
or actually she actually has it.
That's kind of the point.
My friend, smash the like button.
Share the show with everyone, you know.
We got the uncensored portion of the show
coming up tomorrow.
Tomorrow's going to be crazy.
I mean, coming up at 10 o'clock.
Tomorrow's going to be crazy.
We've got House and Habit
and Colonel Kurtz coming on the morning
for the Culture War show
to talk about all these
conspiracy theories and, you know, what Candace is on about, what she's doing.
So I'm sure it'll be contentious and all that jazz, whatever.
You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast.
Greg, you want to shout anything out?
Hey, man, buy my comedy album coming out soon.
It's called Black Underwear, the shit you can't see.
Purchase all my Chillwether's albums.
Man, thank you for having me on the show.
Man, you guys are all very brilliant guys.
Man, I enjoyed listening to you speak.
And if I owe you something, get it from God.
I love that.
Well, you can follow me on X and Instagram at Realtape Brown.
Thank you guys for watching the noon live this week.
I loved hosting it from here.
It was a lot of fun.
You guys gave me some great feedback.
Today's interview with Amber Duke,
where we broke down the compact article everyone's talking about.
We chatted, had a great conversation about it,
and she knows her stuff.
You got to go check it out.
It's up on the Culture War channel, so see you there.
You find me at Ian Crossland, all across the internet at Ian Crossland.
And also go to graphene.
Dot movies.
Sign up for the mailing list, the movie I'm producing,
grapene movie. We went under Rice University, interviewed some excellent scientists and
groundbreaking future tech. You're going to want to see it at graphene.com movie. Check me out there.
Phil Labonte. I am Phil that remains on Twix. The band is all that remains. We are going on tour
next year. Tickets are available tomorrow. It's going to be all that remains,
Born of Osiris and Dead Eyes. We start April 29th in Albany, and it goes through until May 23rd.
Get your tickets tomorrow. You can check out all that remains at Apple Music, Amazon, Music,
Pandora, Spotify, YouTube, and Deezer.
Don't forget the left lane is for crime.
We will see you all at rumble.com
slash timcast, IRL for the uncensored show.
Thanks for hanging out.
