Timcast IRL - MASS SHOOTING At California Mosque, Two Teenagers Dead In Suspected HATE CRIME w/Mary Flynn O'Neill

Episode Date: May 19, 2026

Nick, Tate, and Ian are joined by Mary Flynn O'Neill to discuss two teenagers dead after mass shooting targets San Diego mosque, a teen takeover brawl at a DC Chipotle, people begging for big tech sur...veillance to stop epidemic of "teen takeover" crime, leftists celebrate Luigi Mangione in a viral video, and Thomas Massie's election the most expensive ever.  SUPPORT THE SHOW BUY CAST BREW COFFEE NOW - https://castbrew.com/ Join - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLwN... Hosts:  Nick Sortor @NickSortor (X) Tate @realTateBrown (everywhere) Ian  @IanCrossland  (everywhere) | https://graphene.movie/ Chris @ChrisKarr17 (X) Producer: Carter @carterbanks (X) |  @trashhouserecords  (YT) Guest: Mary Flynn O'Neill @MaryFlynnONeil1 (X) Podcast available on all podcast platforms! For advertising inquiries please email sponsorships@rumble.com

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Starting point is 00:00:52 That's IQBAR.com promo code bar 20 to get 20% off plus free shipping. IQbar.com code bar 20. And welcome to Timcast, IRL here on this. What is it, Monday? Who even knows anymore what day it is? I am obviously not Tim Poole. I am Nick Sorter, who was asked a couple of hours ago, whether or not we'd be able to fill in for Tim tonight.
Starting point is 00:01:13 A lot of news happening over the past couple of hours here, and we've been going through it here in the studio for since the minute I got here. But I want to take a moment. I want to welcome our guest here tonight. Mary, introduce yourselves. What do you do? Hey, hey, hey, I'm Mary. Flynn.
Starting point is 00:01:29 O'Neill, I'm the executive director of America's future. It is the nation's leader in preserving America and their principles and values, and we are 80 years old this year. And so we are the first nonprofit known in the job we do to protect American rights and faith, family, and freedom. Awesome. We'll go around the line here. Hi, I'm Ian. Crossland. That's about all I got.
Starting point is 00:01:58 Follow me at you. That was so solid. Great intro. I'm Tate. I'm happy to be here. Chris Hold on. Yeah, Chris Carr. I am a writer, journalist, book editor, and the proud father of two boys.
Starting point is 00:02:12 And I'm Carter Banks here as well, producing the show. So let's get into it. Awesome. And I, you know, some of you might know. I'm not going to pretend that everybody's going to know me in the audience. I'm Nick Soder. I am an independent reporter, mostly based on X, because they'll pretty much just ban me on any other platform.
Starting point is 00:02:28 that I go to, so that's the best place to find me. Some of you may have seen me on their stories like East Palestine, Ohio, the Maui fires, things like that. But enough about me, because I'm really not that interesting, but what is interesting is the amount of stories that has happened today here. We were just monitoring this press conference, guys. I think we're going to get into this first. Three killed in a shooting at San Diego's largest mosque, according to the police. They actually just wrapped up a press conference where they didn't officially give us the names from the police. We think we have the names. I'm not sure if we're going to mention them on air quite yet, but two teenage suspects found at the scene, or found blocks away from the scene,
Starting point is 00:03:07 dead in their car. Apparently, hate speech was scrawled on one of the weapons. Officials are telling, not just CNN, but multiple other news networks. What do you guys' thoughts on this? Because this is a, obviously, a mosque. I've been yelled at in my comment section all day for not calling it a mosque for some reason, even though it's called the Islamic Center of San Diego, but this is a little bit different, I would say. Typically, it isn't a
Starting point is 00:03:37 mosque. What do you thoughts, Ian? The whole hate speech thing is always concerning to me. I never, it wasn't a topic of 15 years ago, 20 years ago, when like the Columbine kids went and shot up that school in Colorado. I think it was Colorado. It didn't matter. Like, obviously they hate somebody if they're killing
Starting point is 00:03:53 somebody. Like, what is it, if it says the word hate on the bullet, does that make it more egregious? Do we need more government funds to spy on people so that we can test them with pre-crime if they said the word hate yesterday? I don't know, man. It feels like propaganda. And secondly, they should be armed. These people should have gun rights in California. And bad parenting, I think, is leading. So I blame the parents. Yeah, I mean, you look at this stuff and hate speech, the problem with calling things hate speech, Mary, it's, it could be, you know, the definition of hate speech has, I don't know, what's evolved. years and years and years since, you know, the term first came up. And now, especially in California, like, what is hate speech defined as? I know. It's very difficult because they take these words and they normalize them. They make them all normal. So everybody hates everybody. So, I mean,
Starting point is 00:04:42 I just hate speech is ridiculous to me. There is a lot of hate going on in this world today. So, I mean, I come out of it at a spiritual warfare kind of way because we got evil and good going on here. We got a lot of stuff going on. And these kids, you're right, these kids, these parents, these parents need to be paying attention to what their kids are doing because a lot of these kids are groomed on these online, you know, so rooms going on and all this AI stuff and all this kind of stuff. I mean, we train on this stuff in my group. So this, and gun rights is very important. Gun rights are very important in California. Yeah, I mean, this is, I mean, to your point, you know, the impulse is obviously to blame the parents, because, I mean, historically, that would be a pretty good indicator.
Starting point is 00:05:29 Something went wrong in your upbringing for this to sort of happen, but we are in a new paradigm in 26. I mean, the ways that children get effectively groomed now into situations like this, it's everywhere. It's preeminent, and it happens right under the parents' noses. And to be honest, they don't have that much recourse beyond just taking away their devices. So parents in 20206 are an entirely new paradigm. These two kids, they were kids, well, one of them was a kid. One was a teenager, I think one was 18, according to the police report. And so you're looking at this could be one of two things. One, this could be a kind of Christchurch emulation.
Starting point is 00:06:01 I think that would be fair to say. I think what's more likely is, again, this was some sort of weird discord cult that they were involved in. We're seeing this happen quite a bit and just pushing these kids to the edge who end up quite atomized. And unfortunately, there's a large chunk of Gen Z primarily is completely atomized and they end up finding community online. Sometimes it works out.
Starting point is 00:06:20 Sometimes you get married. Other times this happens. And you are talking about the parents. and such and, you know, holding them accountable. It's another story that we'll get through from Washington, D.C. here in a bit. But we just heard from this press conference where one of the mothers actually alerted police that her son was suicidal, that he stole her guns and her vehicle, and they were looking for him. And that's when they got the call that there was a shooting happening at this Islamic Center there in San Diego.
Starting point is 00:06:53 And I guess that brings us to, you know, at what point do you start, you know, putting some blame on the parents and be like, okay, well, how long did you know that he was suicidal? Were you getting him any help? We don't know. We haven't independently confirmed this, obviously, but it looks like NBC is reporting that Kane Clark 17 and Caleb Vasquez, 18, are the suspects in the case, both deceased. I believe three victims are also deceased, and then a landscaper who was shot out front. The bullet grazed off his helmet, and luckily he has survived. But, you know, what do you guys think on that? Because we're going to go more onto this when we talk about, you know, like that chaos
Starting point is 00:07:37 that was happening at Chipotle and D.C. But where does the accountability end up for parents? Well, I mean, in this instance, they're 17 and 18. I mean, I think we have to draw a line somewhere if we are going to go down this route of holding parents accountable for the sins of their children. If these are 12-year-olds, probably, yeah, you would want to pull these parents before a court and have a conversation. In this instance, 17-18-year-olds, they're completely autonomous. The parents, this is just, this is a broader conversation about how, like, as technology advances, we used to have
Starting point is 00:08:08 this understanding in society where the youth would learn from the old, right, and the old would pass along their knowledge to the youth, but as technology develops, as technology evolves, We're in this weird inverse of the last 60 years. We've ended up in this inverse world where now the youth have to teach their parents things about their devices that they have. Like I have to teach my grandmother how to use her smartphone. We're in a really weird dynamic now. And so, again, it's making it very difficult for parents because they're trying to keep the lid on a world that they have no idea how it works. I mean, we have an understanding.
Starting point is 00:08:35 I mean, I'm 25 and I have an understanding. But even as a 25-year-old, I hear about some of these things that 16-year-olds are involved in. And I just have zero point of reference to understand it whatsoever. So I can't imagine, I imagine these parents are probably in their 40s, 50s. They're completely underwater here. Yeah, that dynamic compared with, you know, just the overall breakdown of the family structure. And, you know, I mean, you don't know this people. Every situation is different.
Starting point is 00:08:55 But, I mean, likely there's probably some, you know, some spiritual bankruptcy happening there that's going to lead to unsupervision and a lack of communication and understanding of their kids. You know, you first want to think, maybe just accuse them of being chronically, you know, almost, you know, like they weren't around their kids enough. They weren't there to supervise them and look after them. But it's probably more complicated than that, you know. But you said something earlier that I thought was really interesting. You said training?
Starting point is 00:09:23 What kind of training were you talking about? So we do a lot of training. I mean, we've been going around this country for two years and getting the fights, and I have put together. So, you know, Project Defend and Protect Our Children is one arm, okay? And I decided that, and I was highly involved in the C.P. foster care. I saw a lot of corruption up in Rhode Island where we're from. And my own daughter had gone through a very serious situation with a divorce and kids and so forth. And the kids were, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:55 grabbed by CPS and so forth. So I have a life experience in this stuff. So it started to get me involved in the whole system. And I started going deeper and finding that there's so much corruption in all these systems. So I decided to put together. So we're really, in a situation now where people have been saying that they have been training or rescuing children or doing things for some over 20 years, some of these organizations, some of these nonprofits, they've been saying they've been rescuing kids for a long time, but here we are. At the worst level we can imagine right now with children. And I'm not talking about just trafficking. I'm talking about crimes against children. All of the, I, so child trafficking is like getting normalized.
Starting point is 00:10:44 You talk about the words, okay? Hate crime. Well, child trafficking is getting normalized. People go, oh, it's like nothing. So I've, you have to try to change the whole kind of messaging to crimes against children, even grooming crimes, even parents who are not paying attention or no kids, you know, the biggest problem a parent has today is a child can go on a device and they can, they don't even have to leave their house. Years ago, you used to have to say to your mother and father, where are you going, who are you with, what time are you going to be home, all those kind of things, right? A kid can be in his bedroom, go into a room, into one of these rooms on the internet,
Starting point is 00:11:31 and literally it takes five minutes to suicide a child. today when they get them into these rooms so my training what i decided to do was put a team together of real experts vetted experts that go around the country i want to go into churches which is what i've been doing because the role of the church needs to step up to the plate that's a community that can save a lot of kids a lot of families if if the pastors are true okay leaders spiritual leaders even the priest, Catholic Church. I know all about this stuff, but I go in and I try to force, you know, the whole community in the churches to step up to the plate and do something to protect their people, their families from the government, from all the outsides, things going on like training.
Starting point is 00:12:22 So we train on how to identify predators. We train on citizenry, on what are your rights, how to legislate, we train a whole series of tools that people can use to get their communities in order and go after criminals. I mean, right now, from the border, you guys, with the last four years, we saw the open borders. So every single community is an open border. Every community in this country is an open border with illegals and criminals. So, you know, that's what we do. We train very hard on this. And one last thing I want to say is General Flynn wrote a book, three books, three manuals. He wrote 5G, 5G.
Starting point is 00:13:11 We're now in like 8G. You really want to think about it. We could talk about that, okay? So just to remind the order, I don't know if we actually said this or you may have said in the beginning, but you, that General Flynn is your brother. He's my brother. He's the chairman of America's future. And he wrote 5G AI.
Starting point is 00:13:29 a manual on AI, and he wrote the best one, the role of the church. And that book is exactly what we take around this country. Because if we could change the way the role of the church, if the role of the church stepped up to the plate, we could save this country. So what is the problem there then? I know you have places like California, for example, where they're trying to make it illegal for, say, school counselors to, you know, raise a flag about what people's children, uh, what people's children, uh, what's going through their heads, you know, are they going through a really hard time? Are they becoming suicidal? Are they trying to, or do they think that they're, you know, boys and girls' bodies? Yeah, how do you fix it?
Starting point is 00:14:11 That's what you're talking about, the transgender. Yeah, I mean, but it's more than just that, but also like radicalization, like suicidal tendencies. Well, I mean, what you're seeing here, I mean, and I'm saying this is a devout Christian, so I do agree that there is certainly a spiritual rot and that's occurring. I think a primary actually, like, factor here is that America's youth, just don't see a future in the country. I think that's just the reality of the situation. You're seeing this all across the West. Why, though?
Starting point is 00:14:34 Because the situation has gotten so dire. I mean, like, they look around and they really just don't see, and I'm not just saying economic. I'm saying, and every institution, every function that, like, their parents would have had, they're looking at their lives and they're saying, I'm going to have a worse trajectory. And that has a serious psychological effect. And my proof for this isn't shootings. I mean, that's certainly an outcome of that.
Starting point is 00:14:52 But you're seeing increase in different political affiliations. Like, you're seeing, how did Mamdani win? Was it because he was an Islamic Con? Was it diversity? Those are all factors, but I think the primary factor is just, again, who turned out in the primary to get Mammani across the finish line? It was like millennials, older zoomers, and those are young girls between 25 and 35 were the ticket to his winning. Yeah, and you're going to see more and more, a, as the country continues to diversify and become more multicultural, but also as, again, America's youth just really see no future in the country for them. And so it has a
Starting point is 00:15:24 huge demoralizing effect because, I mean, to take it back to like Columbine, for example, I mean, they grew up in very normal, stable households. I believe one of the shooters actually was put in counseling because he'd like broke into a van or something. So these are parents that, okay, you know, like Monday morning quarterback, like, okay, they could have, you know, intervened more, but no parent ever thinks their child is going to, like, lash out like that. That's a very natural thing. You can't expect every parent in America to, like, helicopter parent their child and, you know, just have immediate intervention as soon as something goes wrong.
Starting point is 00:15:52 But unfortunately, that's the world we live in. I mean, so, yes, the parents do have an expectation to do that, but is that going to happen? not. And it's just, again, as the country continues to deteriorate, as Western civilization continues to deteriorate, that comes in tandem with the spiritual rot. Because again, it's kind of a chicken before the eggs. Well, what came first? I don't know. But all this to be said, you're going to see more and more of this. You're going to see so many other social indicators scream at us that we're heading the wrong direction and more people are going to die. I mean, that's just the reality, whether it's through this or through suicide, the suicide, the suicide is
Starting point is 00:16:21 skyrocketing. So in the 80s, I grew up in the 80s and it was, don't talk to strangers was like the big, a big message, don't talk to strangers. And I'm like, I see the kids walking around my neighborhood and they say hi to me. And I'm like, I don't even respond sometimes. I'm like, I'm not going to be the stranger that you talked to a kid. But that's weird. I'm like, wow, it's weird or not responding than if I had said hello. Yeah. But now it's like 12 year olds can make more money than their parents online making with with ad revenue and super chats and something, like Mr. Beast. I don't know how old he was when he made his first, his first meal ticket, but he paid his mom's house off pretty quick. So like the whole, like you said,
Starting point is 00:16:57 earlier, Tate, too, the inversion of the way children are growing up, they're actually becoming like the leaders of their household at some points because they know so much more about the way reality works. Yeah. And these checked out parents. That's what creates this interesting dynamic because you have that, but you also don't have them succeeding. And then again, if they don't like, if they don't envision a future in the country, they're going to basically check out. And when they check out, how does that manifest? What does checking out look like? Well, most of them just give up and then just like, you know, start smoking a much of weed or whatever. I mean, the adolescent weed usage is through the roof.
Starting point is 00:17:29 And you'd likely... SSRIs, those are common tantities. They're both functional antidepressants. But sometimes they lash out like this. We're going to see it more than. And it seems like once you get to the point where you don't have anything to lose, you on a lower end of things, you might vote for somebody like Mom Donnie, right?
Starting point is 00:17:42 Just because it's like anything could possibly be better than the way that it is right now in New York in terms of affordability. So I can understand that argument. But then you also get the people that are like, okay, we can't vote our way out of it. So we're going to do things like we're going to do things like we're going to annihilate the United Healthcare CEO out there on the streets of Manhattan. Did you guys ever go through a nihilistic phase?
Starting point is 00:18:03 Anybody here? I did. I thought you have. And it was very like burn it all down nihilism. Like I'm ready to just watch it all go to ash and then whatever comes after that. Fine. I don't care. I got nothing to lose.
Starting point is 00:18:15 It was a phase. I still kind of feel myself dipping my toes in it from time and time unintentionally. But I got out of that phase with purpose. I developed some sort of purpose talking onto the internet. So hopefully a lot of with the kids, if they're feeling it, know that it's a phase, but I don't know how long that phase will last. It kind of depends on your circumstances. And that's the tricky thing because, like, okay, the nihilism, I think is at the cultural level, but I don't think it goes much deeper than that. And my evidence for that is everyone for the last 10 years has been like burn it down.
Starting point is 00:18:41 I want to see this all like fall apart or whatever. And then gas hit $4 and everyone freaked out and lost their mind. So it's like people say they want one thing and they conduct their personal life in a nihilistic matter. But again, when it comes to the implications of it, burning down, they freak out, they lose their minds. And so that just indicates to me that, like, people are not in control of their lives, they have no hand on the wheel whatsoever. And they think they want one thing. And then as soon as it manifests, like, I mean, to make it political like a Memdani, and then it doesn't work, they just double down on the nihilism. They're like, okay,
Starting point is 00:19:13 well, we didn't try the socialism hard enough or in other instances. It only, the Memdani's only relevant because socialism is the only, like, manifestation that's, like, politically viable. socialist. He's more than a socialist. You understand that, right? So you have to look at the history. You guys study the history of this country and how it began, okay, and how they set the founding fathers did what they did. they went out and looked at every single type of culture, religion in the whole world at that time to find the best government that they, I'm going to say government, that they could find for this new world. That's what they did. They studied Buddhism. They studied every culture. And they came up with a constitutional republic, not a democracy, a constitutional republic that was a Christian established on the
Starting point is 00:20:10 biblical principles of this country. Now, I'm going to talk about history. In history, Christian nations are the best nations for people to live in. Okay? There's no supposed to be any suppression or oppression or anything that you're supposed to be able to believe in Jesus Christ and the whole, you know, idea of Christianity and forgiveness and all these great things that come with Christianity. So you tell me diversity is not our strength? No, it's more about tolerance. It's more about tolerance, tolerating each other.
Starting point is 00:20:50 So we learn to live with each other, to tolerate your belief. My beliefs, your beliefs. They drop the word. I'm 65 years old, you guys. So, I mean, I'm a grandmother of four 17-year-olds and a 14-year-old. They're all going to be, three of them are seniors in high school, and they're incredible kids. And the 14, I mean, thank God they're incredible children because they're growing up in a time that I, that's why I fight for this country. And I fight for the traditions and the values and the principles.
Starting point is 00:21:26 principles that the founding fathers stated, it's proven what they did. They didn't just throw it together. They put it together well processed, well done. Sure. And you have, you've, corruption seeps in. Corruption seeps in. And I think a lot of the corruption also has to, to do with who we have brought over here, who we have invited into this country. And that's what I would be most worried about is, okay, you know, all of these people that have come into our country, that have no interest in, you know, the future of our country. It's about them. It's about, okay, let's come in here and, you know, how do we get rich by scamming the American taxpayer?
Starting point is 00:22:05 That's what they care about. And so you're a mother and a grandmother. Like, does that not bother you? Like, all the stuff that you were fed for decades. Absolutely. Well, so my grandparents, my grandparents came from Ireland. Okay. I'm from Newport, Rhode Island, New England.
Starting point is 00:22:24 The first slaves were Irish slaves. I can prove that. So when I hear people reparation, black, I'm saying to you, my Irish ancestors were stolen from Ireland and brought here by the Vanderbilt's and the wealthy, wealthy blue blood, and they were enslaved by them. And they were. And that's what people, I'm talking about history, you guys. you've got to learn the history of where you came from, what your cultures, what your backgrounds,
Starting point is 00:22:56 why your parents came here, why your grandparents, all these things. It's a beautiful thing. Yeah. And I think that's why we have to be particular too when we're like identifying what is the sort of core identity of the United States. Like what are people assimilating too? Because I mean, I totally agree. I mean, Christianity obviously underpins the United States. And the further you get away from, again, sort of the way that the founders conducted their form of Christianity, the more difficult it becomes to assimilate these people. I mean, for example, you mentioned... Well, they weren't perfect. It wasn't perfect. When they came here, when they started to settle here, because of course, New England's very old. It's like 1600s, you know, so, and I know those history.
Starting point is 00:23:35 Yeah. And you mentioned, like, you know, the founders did explore the religions. Like, it's true. Thomas Jefferson bought a copy of the Quran and then invaded it would be like three years later. Yeah, I mean, they did. Yeah. He was like enough of this. But, but it's true because, you know, when we're conducting our, like, immigration policy, for example, we have to even go deeper than Christianity because, I mean, Christianity, while true it does, you know, there is a level of binding. I mean, the Haitians have been assimilated very well,
Starting point is 00:23:58 and they're primarily Christians. And they have no interest. Do they have any interest in assimilating? No, no, they don't. You're right. Because there's a very evil side to that. I know the Haitians very well. I know that island very well, and I'm going to tell you something, there's a dark side.
Starting point is 00:24:12 There's a dark side, even AI, you guys. It's good. We create. We were born. God created, this is what I believe, created, we create. All our gifts come from this creator, okay? The dark side will take those people that have these creative things in them, all these great music, all these great people,
Starting point is 00:24:34 and he will use them for the bad. And that's what AI, in the wrong hands AI is going to devastate children. It's going to devastate a lot. It's not going to be good. So in the wrong hands, and we're seeing that through our history, of our country, 250 years right now. Do you know that Ottoman Empire, all the empires have only made it to 250? That's historical. Look that up. So we're at a point right now that 250 years right now. So are we going to survive the next 250 years? As if I needed to be more blackpilled, Mary. Thanks.
Starting point is 00:25:10 Sorry, but that's historical. Look it up. Yeah. And too, I mean, to your point about like, you know, something ending up in the wrong hands. I mean, because this is why, like, when, again, you're, I mean, just because immigration came up. This is why, like, you know, I would say the primary reason why Haiti is so dysfunctional is just because the average IQ there is like 75. It's the same thing with Somalia. There is a spiritual emptiness and evilness, but I think that's prevalent in Europe, what the European countries do function quite well.
Starting point is 00:25:36 I think it's prevalent in South Korea. Again, South Korea does function quite well. You have to ask yourself, or the Haitians or the Somalians really more spiritually bankrupt than the Czechs, but the Czechs have the highest atheism rate in the world. So it's like when you are sort of evaluating what succeeds, what doesn't, there's a lot, I guess when I'm contesting is there's a lot of different factors you've been involved. Violence too, though. Don't forget violence. There's no point in even talking about it. We don't have to talk about it. We can talk about them while they're still over in their country. We don't have to bring them here and then decide. Oh, do they have any benefit to our country? No, we knew that from day one that they weren't going to. But, you know, we've been talking about parents as well. And obviously, this has been a big story over the weekend. I live right down the street. from this Chipotle here, where the youths, I guess, will call them.
Starting point is 00:26:23 That's what the media likes to call them. In reality, this is YouTube, but I guess I'm going to say it anyway. It is exclusively black teenagers in Washington, D.C., that every single weekend, they are the reason that the National Guard is out there. They are the reason that there is a federal influx of agents on the streets of Washington, D.C. every single weekend, because you either get hit by a stray bullet, they'll rob you, they'll take over restaurants that your family is in. Like, do we have this video where you can show what happened in Chipotle,
Starting point is 00:26:57 in case anybody hasn't seen it? I mean, literally, you had an innocent family sitting there, a dad trying to protect his young children while these youths go out there and terrorize the joint. We'll get that video so we can give you a little bit of context here. But again, it runs to, okay, how? How responsible should children or should parents be for their children? And the reason that I bring this up right now, even though this just happened over the weekend,
Starting point is 00:27:26 is because there's been more news on this today where U.S. attorney Janine Piro has said that she will begin charging the parents with neglect and delinquency-related crimes for the parents that are allowing their children to go out and terrorize random families in Washington, D.C. And that's why, you know, I say, like, Chris, just go to you on this one. Should you be responsible for your children? Are you going to let them go out and terrorize Washington, D.C.?
Starting point is 00:27:58 Well, no, I'm happy to let them terrorize my neighborhood right now because they're four and six. But when they get to be teenagers, no, I mean, here's the thing. Okay, so she can charge them, but are those charges going to stick with, you know, judges in D.C.? Like, I mean, like, I don't know if this is necessarily, I mean, maybe it's moving in the right direction, but this, I don't see a solution here. Because were they talking about, wasn't in D.C., where they were talking about doing certain zones that you couldn't be in at certain times? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:22 So aren't they just going to move to a different zone? Well, but they don't care. This was a curfew zone at the time. It was after a curfew. They don't care. So whoever's running D.C., you know, and making these decisions, they're not coming up with any effective stopgap measures
Starting point is 00:28:35 to prevent this chaos from happening. Sure. You know. And I think she's just looking to do something very drastic because something very drastic has to happen. Yeah. So, you know. And they can do it.
Starting point is 00:28:47 There are other ways to do it where if the parent knew that the child was going out after curfew, if they have been truant from school, if they've been skipping school and the parents have not done anything about it. That is something that the U.S. Attorney could go after in conjunction with the local Attorney General as well, who is up for re-election. I get phone calls from this, I don't know if I can say this word on air, so I'm not going to. Real type of guy that likes to watch his wife bang other dudes. That is the Attorney General of Washington, D.C. And so they have to pretend like they're doing something right now. So it seems like maybe they can work together on this and start actually enforcing these laws. Because we actually talked about this probably, I think last time I was on the show or the time before, where these youths are sometimes paid to go out and steal vehicles by actual organized gangs.
Starting point is 00:29:44 That's right. and they're paid several hundred dollars to do so because they know that they're not going to be charged with anything that sticks. They're not going to get prison time, nothing for these violent felonies. And again, at some point, the parents have to know what's going on.
Starting point is 00:30:02 Was that the video? Yeah, I'm trying to pull it up really quick. You know, if a guy, if a family has a dog, like a Rottweiler and it gets out of the yard in D.C. and chases a kid down and bites, that family is liable. the animal, their child is also an animal. If that animal gets out of the house and goes and does what that other animal dog, I mean,
Starting point is 00:30:21 humans are animals straight up. If that animal causes harm, it's like you let your animal, your charge go. Like you've got to keep that thing on a leash. And I'm talking about your kid if it's crazy. Like you got to, you are responsible for that animal. I don't know how far you take that because if the kid commits like a white collar crime, that I wouldn't blame. Yeah, this is why you, this is why you have to be like precise, right, if you're the district attorney here,
Starting point is 00:30:43 is you have to basically set the precedent or set the understanding rather that, okay, let's just say 16. Let's say 16 will be the cutoff. If you're under 16 and the child does this while there's a curfew in place, then the parents need to be charged. And if they're over 16, then you try them as adults. That would be like the very simple solution here. And I imagine, you know, because it is a federal district, they could actually make that happen. But the question is, how do you do this in a city like Los Angeles or Miami where you know these things happen as well? It has to be a nationwide standard, quite frankly. If there's a curfew in place and then you violate it, if you're under 16, try the parents. I think that makes the most sense. And then again, if you're over 16,
Starting point is 00:31:16 you don't get the kid gloves, you're going to get tried like an adult. Yeah, well, the other issue is they have to actually want to do this. The Democrat politicians out there have to want to do it. They have no incentive to because then they, basically, it's used as an attack ad against them. It's like, oh, well, they're just kids being kids. It's like kids that are terrorizing neighborhoods in major U.S. cities. Like, you can't, you go into this, do we have this video that I have on the right side? Yeah, that's it. Okay, so you pull this up here and look and see this, it'll come onto the right side here.
Starting point is 00:31:56 I've watched the video infuriate because I go here every couple times a week. And you look, look at the little kids grasping their father right here. They're like two or three kids there. And why should they have to live like this? Why should they? They're not going to forget this. If I was this age and I saw this stuff happening, this is going to stay in my mind all the time. Especially that he came down flat on his back with that thing. Especially like when people
Starting point is 00:32:23 lie to you. Like it's obvious to everyone watching in the audience. People don't say it's like obviously like almost a uniquely black issue. But then no one will actually say that. And that just infuriates you more because like I grew up in Memphis. This is very familiar to me. I understand how this works. But then everyone, even in conservative media, will dance around it. Oh, it's like socioeconomic factors or something. It's like, no, it's a black thing. It is a black like almost entirely a black issue. Every time you see a video of like a public like massive freak out like this and there was a brawl like 99 times out of 100 it's going to be black usually black youth involved but in the 80s it was the italians yeah and the irish too the irish did it yeah but it was
Starting point is 00:32:57 i don't think i ever got to like ransacking levels like but but but it was also like you know like a guy like if there was a fight he did something it was uh you know there was a reason for it like we used to call like rugby my husband played rugby for 25 years it was a gentleman's sport so you go you know you you take it outside i guess i'm trying to say say with guys. You take it, somebody bothering their lady or whatever, it was a gentleman way to handle things, you know, so. It was almost a carryover. Like when you saw, again, like, we'll use the term, it was like the ethnic whites like in the Irish of the Italians, you would almost see like a
Starting point is 00:33:31 carryover like dueling culture into the, even into the 80s like you're talking about. But where it is now, it's indiscriminate. Typically any bystander will get caught up in it, especially if they look at them the wrong way or something. And it's just a complete departure from again, like some of the, okay, yeah, we did see like maybe you would even attribute it to the mob or something. Beyond like weird cases like the Westies, you never really saw like indiscriminate violence, you know, on the masses. Regarding this kind of chaos, like that sounds more like ordered combat. Let's take it outside. But like these guys, would you advocate for like using Deep Palantir spy tech to identify all these people and go and arrest them and
Starting point is 00:34:05 charge them and then have them go to trial? Well, I mean, I think the police already do use quite a bit of data collection. And I think you have to. And they have to. And this goes back to the conversation we actually had on Friday, which is, again, if you're going to, if you're going to have, like, mass tolerance, a multicultural society and whatnot, then you're going to have to have authoritarianism because it's just, there's no other way for it to function. Look at El Salvador, look at Singapore. I mean, this is just the reality of situation. It's like, you can't have both. You can't have a high trust society and a super diverse society. I mean, there's thousands of books of literature on this, like trying to get around this and you just can't get around it. You either pick one or the other. And that is what,
Starting point is 00:34:41 honestly, that's what like undergirded the Trump 2020 war victory was people were kind of thinking about that even if they couldn't articulate that distinction, they were in the back of their head, we're like, okay, I see the direction America's going, and I have a lever to pull here to stop it. Well, they were defunding police. Yeah, exactly. Oh, that's a big problem. You can't do that. I mean, I come from that up in New England.
Starting point is 00:34:58 It's like living in communism up there. It's crazy. Honestly, it really is, you guys. And I saw that growing up, and growing up, it was the best place in the world to be. But, you know, as a family and my mother was, our family was Democrats, and they were, were the, you know, JFK Democrats, and then all of a sudden, and my mother ran for office, too. So, I mean, I saw this switch in the party really go into some serious infiltration of communism and Marxism. So, you know, the other thing we got to talk about, too, is the education system,
Starting point is 00:35:34 the public education system. I've seen a huge change in that, and that has a lot to do with, it has a lot to do with the way, what's going on with kids. Well, the amount of them that don't even show up to school. I mean, at least we get to start there. goes back to holding the parents accountable for truancy. Years and years ago, they were held accountable for their kids being truant, which just for anybody that doesn't know, which is not showing up to school for especially extended amounts of time. But I think another argument that needs to be had here, and I'd love to hear Chris chime in
Starting point is 00:36:06 on this one as well, masking, right? You look at this photo here that we've got up. This is just a screenshot from that brawl. He's worried about haunts a virus. Oh, yeah, I'm sure. Yeah, I'm worried about it, boon, haunt a virus. I have no doubt that he's just protecting his own health and the health of those around them. Yeah, and so at what point do you say, I'm sorry, you can't wear a mask in public anymore?
Starting point is 00:36:28 Like, is there at some point where you would support something like that? And, you know, Mary, we'll get your answer on that. Oh, yeah, I'm six years late to that. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, no more masks. Listen, OSHA never allowed it. I mean, we won an OSHA case on that when COVID did. Really, I mean, you couldn't do that, OSHA.
Starting point is 00:36:43 And we did. We won that case in the Supreme Court. Is it legal to wear a mask in public right now? I believe they tried to, like Trump tried to sign an executive order saying that it was illegal to wear a mask at riots or protest, riots, whatever. But it's not really enforceable at the moment. It might be in Washington, D.C. I don't really know because Washington, D.C. is obviously a very, it's a federal district, which is very different than anywhere else in the country. But you pretty much know if you see somebody, they've got their hood.
Starting point is 00:37:13 It was like 85 degrees that night. Outside, you're wearing your hood up, you've got your mask on, you've probably got a warrant, okay? You're trying to hide your identity for some reason. Either you've got a warrant or you're afraid that you're going to or know that you're going to commit some sort of crime, and you want your face to be concealed. Good luck finding this guy right now. This one that threw a high chair at somebody else in a Chipotle with the hood up. You can't identify him in any way besides maybe fingerprints on the high chair because he's got to have.
Starting point is 00:37:43 mask on. Unless Intel comes in, somebody and it gives it up. Will they? Maybe. If they catch a few of these guys and how much background, you know, how many charges some of these kids have on them. I mean, that could be another problem. Some of these kids probably have, I mean, some charges on them. Who knows?
Starting point is 00:37:59 Maybe they've got warrants. I don't know. Those kids know what they're doing. Any public, private establishment should have the right to bad masks. Absolutely. I think they already do. Yeah, they do. And if you get caught committing a crime with a mask. going to be, should be an aggravated charge to hide your identity. I think it's fair.
Starting point is 00:38:17 Yeah, I mean, to your point, I mean, the private sector has already implemented solutions for this in places. That's right? How long it been since you couldn't wear a mask into a bank, right? Right. And like, even in places where you see a bit of these, you know, magical situations, like nightclubs, nightclubs banned schisties a long time ago. Like, they understood that, like, again, even if you go to the UK, I mean, they realize in the UK that if people dress a certain way, they're probably going to be up to no goods. They banned what they call track suit wear, or athletic wear, which means you can't wear sweatpants or joggers into a nightclub. Now, that's almost horrific for Americans here because we typically wear sweatpants at places we shouldn't.
Starting point is 00:38:50 But again, they just realized the private sector realized there's a pretty good chance this guy, if he's wearing sweatpants to a nightclub, he's probably going to start a fight. And this is the problem is like people hate the, because that's a form of discrimination and people hate it. People have like no tolerance for it. And like we used to have the police for intruency, for example. Even until recently, the NYPD was allowed to go up to kids, people that look like they were under 18 and ask them, why are you not in school? I was like perfectly legal. And even if it's on the books, they just can't do it anymore. They'll get written up. It's a whole thing. But we have so many mechanisms that we can use to stop these sorts of things. You just
Starting point is 00:39:23 have to be kind of mean and people don't have a stomach for that. The inverse is that in the Chinese system, if you're walking down the street and you jaywalk a camera is going to be able to see your face and you get a ticket within two minutes and you lose access to your phone, whatever. So it is a slippery slope. Like you want people to remain anonymous. anonymity is a huge part of the ethos of the United States, but at what cost? And any private establishment should be able to make you take your mask off or call the cops immediately. Yeah, well, any erosion of law enforcement will lead to erosion of liberty. And law enforcement applies to border controls. I mean, at every level, basically, if you are king for the day,
Starting point is 00:40:00 your job to make your citizens happy is, again, reward the good people as much as possible and punish the bad people as much as possible. That's, like, effectively what this comes down to. The problem is just because of a variety of liberal dynamics, we're not allowed to do that anymore. If anything in the United States, we reward horrible people and we punish really good people. I think the tax system, wealth transfer systems indicate that that's certainly the case. Wow. So I want to make a point just so people to understand how close this is and how much these kids don't care. This is a map of Navy Yard in Washington, D.C.
Starting point is 00:40:32 This is the park where they like to shoot each other in the middle of the night. There was a business over here where the windows were shot through last weekend as well. This is the U.S. Department of Transportation, okay? And then this is the U.S. Capitol down here. Capitol Police, you have a bunch of Congresspeople that live right in this area. You have Congresspeople that live in this building here, in this building here. It's all very, very close. And if this can all sit here and happen routinely right next to the U.S. Capitol,
Starting point is 00:41:00 and they are this comfortable with doing it with no repercussions, like that's a joke. That's an absolute joke. The DOT is covered with Federal Protective Service all the time. You have the Navy Yard Ballpark Metro Station here where there's National Guard outside. And you've got another Metro Station that's right here. And you see the National Guard there, but they're not allowed to do much. The kids have now figured out that you're not allowed to be arrested by National Guard. The National Guard cannot take you into custody by themselves unless they witness a violent felony in their views.
Starting point is 00:41:37 Yeah, and that's bad. The idea that we even expect the National Guard to do this. I mean, like, guardsmen, guards women, they saw what happened, you know, a few months ago around. Two of their colleagues got shot. Exactly. So they understand, like, I just need to be here because it's my job. And then in addition to this, this entire thing proves that deterrence isn't enough. Like, you just straight up have to punish these people.
Starting point is 00:41:57 That's the reality of the situation. El Salvador realized this. Is they're like, okay, deterrence for people that have astronomically low, or astronomically low, low IQ, I guess, for like a better word. People that can't like think in order, right? They can't even comprehend long-term consequences. The idea of consequences, they can't flush it out. They can't think in hypotheticals.
Starting point is 00:42:18 They're not, they don't care if, like, the police are going to arrest them if they commit a crime. So deterrence is just not useful in this situation. Deterance is useful for all of us, but deterrence for a large and growing chunk of America is insufficient. You just eventually have to incapacitate. And incapacitation through the legal system means jail. Put these people in jail.
Starting point is 00:42:36 Because again, if they cannot respond to a police presence to the National Guard walking down their street and they still act this way, then you just need to remove them from society and put them in jail. And this is not a hit on the National Guard, by the way. It's like they are doing the extent that they are allowed to do. We're already asking so much of them already, is my point. And it's like, this is not what they signed up for. The fact that we're having to use them in its capacity. And I thank them for their service.
Starting point is 00:42:59 I'm very happy. And I know I've guardsmen and my family. They're great folks. But again, I'm just feel bad for them that they're even putting them. this situation because again, they signed up to defend West Virginia. They didn't sign up. Deployed and deal with these Chipotle riots because the DA won't do their job, because the metro police are handcuffed effectively, and now they have to come in and clean up the mess. And a lot of them are just saying, like, I'm not going to die for a $12 breedo bowl.
Starting point is 00:43:23 It's not going to happen. Oh, is there a realistic alternative here that doesn't just head us into the trajectory of it has to be as bad as El Salvador was before we have to take some drastic corrective measures? under the guise of one leader with one unified vision that is just like my policy is no more violence and more murder at all cost.
Starting point is 00:43:39 There is one way as mass deportations and mass incarceration. They're not getting them. We're not getting it. I wish we did. Yeah, I know. So it's like, you know, until we remedy that, you know, and I think the Trump admin's making progress on this, but again, we're all sitting here,
Starting point is 00:43:52 I would assume that all of us are border walks for the most part. A lot of us are saying those numbers would even be like way higher. The whole run is massive. But that's the only way out is again, this is a population problem. This isn't like a socioeconomic problem. This isn't even necessarily even a cultural problem because the majority of Americans aren't behaving this way. This is specifically ingrained in parts of her population. They just have antisocial behaviors and antisocial
Starting point is 00:44:15 behaviors in a large, in many ways or even genetic in some cases. A lot of the press communities have been very groomed. I mean, up in the projects where I come from, that's where the violence comes from. And the kids are, they're all color, black, white, Latino, whatever. I mean, that's how the system, the welfare system has really destroyed kids. Yeah, I mean, the welfare system has basically institutionalized all of those negative trends. But even in addition to that, I mean, you don't see this happening at Chipotle's in Appalachia. And Appalachia has the same poverty rates, the same single-parented rates to some degree. You have a lot of the same systemic issues, but you don't see this just mass disorder. In Appalachia, you don't see it on Native American
Starting point is 00:44:55 reservations, which are like the poorest in the country in the first world by and large, but we do see it in the black community, like all the time. And at a certain point, Americans need to like fall out this like liberal consensus that came out of the 1960s, the civil rights consensus and just say, we have a problem. And it's like, it's not based out of hatred. No one here hates black people for being, that's ridiculous. We're just saying, again, we're noticing a pattern here. There's nothing wrong with like noticing a pattern. Yep. And I think that is the biggest issue that I believe, like, my parents' generation, for example.
Starting point is 00:45:27 My dad was born in the 60s, right? And he's not exactly a politically correct person, but the way that he was raised and the way that the generation after that was raised, like Gen X or whatever it is at that point, they're all told that, you know, you can't talk about race anymore. You're not allowed to talk about where the,
Starting point is 00:45:47 you can't focus in on where the actual problem is. And if we can do my map again here, I'll just show you they're all coming from the same spot. So into this, here's your Chipotle. Here's the metro station. Here again is the Capitol. They come from over here. All they do, they just ride this line straight down here from this much, this area that, you know, needs some community leader to come up and be like, look, guys, we are the problem in this city.
Starting point is 00:46:16 Yeah. And so we need to focus on ourselves. And stop, stop sending them over into the areas that would otherwise be. Yeah. I'm just being honest. No, it's true. And it's like, this is my point is like the post-racism has just failed because, again, this isn't to say that we should have racial. That's not what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:46:33 I'm saying the idea of like colorblind, everyone needs to be colorblind or whatever. It just isn't sufficient because what ends up happening is what we see in the UK where they put out these PSAs, these anti-rape PSAs and they say like there's this huge problem. All the people in those ads are white. And it's like ask any British woman under 35 who's giving them problems on a daily basis. It's like Pakistanis, et cetera, et cetera. So it's like, that is the natural conclusion of this, like, just pretending that this is not a factor whatsoever. And anyone at any moment could, like, spurrug out and destroy a Chipotle.
Starting point is 00:47:03 It's like, no, you're wrong. You're going to get us killed. I got the question then, because you asked earlier, Chris, like, what's the, how do we get out of this without reverting to like El Salvador level troubles? Yeah, yeah. Hardcore crackdown and Tate said deportations. I thought pre-crime, if we step up our digital pre-crime software and we start spying on people so that we will just, we'll know ahead of time if they're likely to commit it.
Starting point is 00:47:25 We'll have eyes on them and then we'll bust them before they commit the crime. Would it be then reasonable to say, okay, black people are committing the crime in that area? I'm going to now track all the black people in that area. No, but that's what predictive policing is. But how many black people are you looking for in that area? And it's like we're not arbitrarily saying only police black neighborhoods because there's exceptions. And it's like when you're talking about civil liberties, you do have to take exceptions and into account here. What we're simply saying is that when you use predictive policing, you can dispatch police, have heavier police presences and zip codes that have a
Starting point is 00:47:52 lot of crime. So again, you cover all any outliers. This isn't like a racial like categorization we're talking about. You're like, you know, Brentwood Los Angeles is a lot of black people. It's quite a nice place. So again, it isn't to say like every black neighbor, like that's just crazy. And it's like that would be racist. But we're saying is utilizing predictive policing. Like you're talking about pre-crime. These are areas that we know reliably have a lot of crime. You can send the police in there. Would it be ethical to track everybody in an eight block radius? No matter who you are. If it was you just happened to live there, government's got eyes on you now too because you live in proximity to the gangs or whatever?
Starting point is 00:48:22 Well, I mean, they effectively do that. I mean, that's already what they do, because there are some cities and some jurisdictions that do utilize predictive policing. And it's like, okay, if you choose to live in a neighborhood with a lot of crime, you should expect a higher police presence. And like, if that negatively impacts you, sorry, that's just the reality of your neighborhood. And I mean, it is what it is. But in Washington, in particular, when they have some, like, there's a carjacking or something,
Starting point is 00:48:44 and I get alert saying that there's a carjacking, they don't tell you that, oh, it's a black male teenager. They don't say that. It's just it's a male teenager. It's like, okay, well, you gotta give me some sort of, give me more detail. You have more details and you're withholding it from me because you don't want me to racially profile other black teenagers in the city. So we got to get real on this stuff and not be like, oh, we're going to hurt everybody's feelings. This is serious. That's for sure. Innocent lives are being lost over it. That's what we saw. I mean, we had Stephen Edgerton on the show Friday and he was going through all these different stories about how anti-racism has. like fail, I mean, anti-racism, like, because they refused to behave in a racist manner, led to, again, guys that were obviously planning to commit some sort of attack, they were able to, like, act upon that because the police were just terrified of being racist. And, like, he used the Manchester bombing, for example, as I believe it was one of the security guards. He sent something was off. But if I identify a Arab man as potentially being a terrorist,
Starting point is 00:49:44 I might get hit with, like, an anti-racism charge. Right. So the UK, obviously, has more systemic issues because they have hate speech laws and that sort of thing. But the U.S. has the same problem. We just luckily have a few stopgaps in the way. But again, a lot of these police officers, I mean, we saw when people combed through the date after George Floyd, they actually, when you take in per capita into account, they actually shoot white offenders at a higher rate, because they're so afraid of getting turned to the next, you know, high profile, like racial incident that they just will give these people a little bit more grace. For the record, I don't want a pre-crime network built out, like minority report.
Starting point is 00:50:16 People are getting arrested for thinking about community crime. And I, I would rather see this civilianary armed to the teeth in Washington, D.C. And God forbid, opening fire and self-defense if a gang member attacks one of them or if a group of dudes comes up and starts threatening them, I would like to see that angle taken more in these cities. I don't know what are we waiting for? Like, how bad does it have to get before people take it into their own hands? It's just the unfortunate thing because it's like if that's the solution that we literally have to arm everyone to the teeth, that indicates something's really wrong. Because that's what you would see in like a war like a war like a war. a war-like civilization, which is what we don't want.
Starting point is 00:50:50 You can just use the police because Washington, D.C. didn't have this problem 60, 70 years ago. New York didn't have this problem. Boston. You name any major city in the U.S. didn't have this problem 60, 70, 80 years ago. And I doubt that it was because everyone knew everyone was armed. It was just we had a high-trust society.
Starting point is 00:51:05 It wouldn't occur to people to destroy a private business. Well, they couldn't coordinate 50 years ago. They didn't have Facebook groups. They loved. Yeah, that's great. They loved America. What America stood for. I mean, I'm 65.
Starting point is 00:51:18 I'm telling you guys, we loved America. The other thing that they have stopped teaching is what civics is. They've taken civics out of education. They're teaching these social kind of pieces, and they've cut back on math and English and all these kind of, you know, that's what kids need. You need to learn how to write, read, and do arithmetic and those basics. and sorry, you know, curse of his really a good thing for kids to learn.
Starting point is 00:51:50 So sorry. I mean, those kinds of things have been taken out of a kid's life. And really civics, I mean, knowing the real history, they started teaching kids like, and I know this because of my own kids, the baby is 40, my baby's 40, the oldest is 48. So my grandkids, right, 17, these kids don't learn the civic. They've been learning, like, they started learning like all these weird kind of not history. They weren't true history things. You know, like they started putting in
Starting point is 00:52:21 all these kinds of ideology and a piece. You know, activist. Teachers, teachers are being trained to not do those arithmetic English studies. They're being taught to teach them other things. You know, we lost I remember a consumer's ed
Starting point is 00:52:37 was a great thing growing up. You taught a kid how to balance a checkbook. Yeah. Okay? Like those are consumer ed. Like those kinds of things. that's out the door. Trade schools. They stopped trade schools. I had a fence, my husband and I had a fence business for 50 years. We couldn't find a kid to learn a fence. You could make a good living at trades. And those are things that these kids you're seeing doing this kind of stuff, I bet they got,
Starting point is 00:53:06 I bet they got talent. You know? It sounds like you can blame the teachers unions for a lot of that stuff. Well, yeah, that's true. But it hit on one of my pet issues, which is cursive. I mean, the fact that Like no one can redirect cursive anymore as a huge problem. For a variety of reasons. My mom drilled it into me, and I was in the era that like they stopped teaching cursive to. But my mom drilled it into me because she's like, you need to be able to read your grandmother's letters. And then in addition to this, this is a fascinating anecdote is I was at the, I was at the National Archives. And I was looking, they have the whole, you know, retundum with our founding documents.
Starting point is 00:53:34 And I was overhearing within earshot, a school group, none of them could read the document. And I was like, that is really tragic, actually. Because I can, I mean, I'm not going to pretend that it's like the most clear cursive in the world. I can read and make out what they're saying. There's a few words. I'm like, ooh, I don't know. But the fact that, like, cursive, that's one of my pet issues is that cursive is not anymore.
Starting point is 00:53:53 It's really sad. Well, you just brought up the fact of unions, but all of this was this, you know, change of society, the infiltration back to what I do in this organization in 1946, there were a group of people, entrepreneurs, Sears and Roebuck. You guys don't remember Sears and Roebuck, but Sears and Roebuck was the first cast. catalog department store that ever started in this country. These were entrepreneurs. These were guys. These were military guys, writers. I mean, very, very, very talented Americans, soldiers, whatever. And all they were trying to do was tell the American people, because there was over a thousand
Starting point is 00:54:32 card carrying groups in this country before the Cold War, communists. And that's another thing you guys got to understand. In history, this has been. an infiltration since probably the 30s, actually, because we had a publishing company in 1938, and we were trying to write books like, you know, Thomas Jefferson, the forgotten man, and all these kinds of just to keep this Americanism. It's called American exceptionalism, and that's what we're missing today. American exceptionalism. Just think about that.
Starting point is 00:55:09 We are an exceptional people. We really are. American spirit and all these enemies, all these things that have you seen, you guys, I've seen this. I know the infiltration. I know the change. I've seen the changes over my years growing up and I see and I see that it's all they've been doing, all our enemies, communism, Islamism, radical cartels, you know, mafia. I went to school with girls that were mafia. They were a Catholic school. I went to all girls. Catholic High School. I went to all-girl Catholic School all my life, and all girl.
Starting point is 00:55:47 And the girls that were there in my Catholic high school, they were mafia. Their fathers were a mob. So I know that whole generation of what, and they were Americans, they loved this country, okay, and they loved God, but they were mafia.
Starting point is 00:56:03 Yeah. Well, I bet they were rioting at... Right, exactly, they weren't taking over the whole way. And they never hurt women, and they never hurt children. And until the next generation, came along in their, in their crime entity, whatever, it changed. Yeah. Cocaine, prostitute, all these, you know, human trafficking, all these things started to change.
Starting point is 00:56:23 And society changed. And so it's all a part of the, so from 1946, why I'm telling you this, it's all become to this point right now. So was it in the 70s post-Vietnam Nixon put taking us off the gold standard? Because American exceptionalism. That's another thing that happened with us. So 1913, okay, we got a new brochure. We had, in America's Future, they put out a brochure in the 90s called New World Order.
Starting point is 00:56:52 In the 90s, okay? And it had a time frame of all of how new, that's, people used to say New World Order. That's a conspiracy. Well, these guys were writing about New World Order. They already knew about it. And that's exactly right about the 70s. Like these, in the 70s was great music, by the way. They're the best music, I think.
Starting point is 00:57:12 Oh, certainly. Yeah. Clean, fun. Just really good music. And then that changed. Yeah. Well, and the thing is, too, I mean, we're talking about the erosion of American values. Americanism broadly declining.
Starting point is 00:57:24 And I think the primary attributing factor for that is the just massive demographic overhaul of the United States where you look at New York City and it's like, what would be the most obvious change in New York City from today versus the 1960s? Well, the people are different. The people were swapped out. This is why the White House was talking about replacement. migration. They were specifically addressing what price of migration. They were saying, this is what's ultimately harming the fabrics of our society. Therefore, we should, uh, like, we should pursue remigrations. This is like not some kooky. This is like White House State Department policy. And it's true because it's like, what is the number one thing that's
Starting point is 00:57:55 changed over the last couple decades? The people, the people will change. There's been a massive demographic overhaul. And this is still true to this day where if you look for indicators of American values, so to speak, you will see that. Again, if they have cross tabs, you can look into this. You'll see in white populations with white children. white Jen's ears, you will see, they'll ask you, what percentage, or do you support George Washington? And then within white zoomers, it's like 70, 80%, even among like liberal ones, they're still like, yeah, well, I like George Washington. And then that completely falls apart when you look at the other groups. Same thing with, you know, do you stand for the national anthem? Like very simple, like
Starting point is 00:58:29 indicators of American values. So you have to ask yourself, when we're talking about all these changes, what is the primary thing that changed? There was a replacement migration. Also the national debt. if you look at the scale, it's like 10xed in the last 20 years. It went from $7 trillion to $40 trillion. So like the people have like the American dream, we were living off the back of the extraction of the... We just started printing. Yeah, in the 70s.
Starting point is 00:58:49 No gold backing. So like I gave up on Americanism in the war in Iraq. When we went 2007, I lost my George... Oh, that's where you lost it. Yeah. 2006 is when I started making YouTube videos specifically to tell George Bush a lot of things. And you can watch them all on YouTube under my Cross Mac channel. But that was when I just like this whole fake, they told me about fiat currency.
Starting point is 00:59:11 I learned about, oh, we've been extracting wealth through corporatism. That's where I lost the love for America. I still love the ethos of the founding fathers. But dear God, we've been hijacked by corporations, Swiss banks, basically, since the early 1900s. I don't know. I don't know. I mean, I definitely believe that's in your instance. But like national debt, like, for example, Japan's national debt is like 250% of their GDP.
Starting point is 00:59:35 So, I mean, Japan doesn't have any problems with, like, civic understandings. Like, that's a very civil country. They don't have Chip-outes. And by and large, the population still maintains a lot of those Japanese values. So even if they have concerns over the debt, which they do, certainly because their bond market's melting down right now, I don't think that's led to an erosion of Japanese values. But what would be the one thing that would erode Japanese values right away if you started importing people? Even if they were American, even if you imported Americans, like it would change, fundamentally change Japan.
Starting point is 01:00:04 you would see an erosion of Japanese values. Because again, you're just talking about demographic change. This isn't like an attack on people. That's why I say even if you brought in like in America, even if you brought in a ton of Germans, you know, everyone would be like, oh, I got a German next door. No one's ever like, oh, no, some Germans moving next door. But if you brought in a lot of Germans at a high volume,
Starting point is 01:00:20 that would, they probably wouldn't have American values. It would change. It would change the nature. Oh, I don't know. I disagree with that because I grew up with the Irish, the Italians, the Portuguese. I mean, we all loved our culture. We loved who we were, who we came from.
Starting point is 01:00:36 We had our own communities. We had our own churches, Catholic churches. We had our own ways of raising our children, everything. And so I don't, you know, it worked then. Well, I mean, the Ellis Island. Outside influences began to change people. And generational, you know, changes, meaning the education system, the public school education system, okay, that's another thing that we used to do.
Starting point is 01:01:06 They had committees, this organization had committees in every university, every school that would evaluate school books. And the people would do it. The parents, the community, not the school boards and all that, they would evaluate school books for kids. That stopped. Like, they wouldn't allow it anymore. Like, these Marxist school boards, because there's, that's... what George Soros did. He infiltrated the school boards. He also infiltrated the DAs, the prosecutors, the AGs in this country, and the judicial system. That's a fact. So we'll look that up because
Starting point is 01:01:45 that's big influence. But even with like the Ellis Island wave of migration, like we still had a fundamental change to like the way American was. I mean, that's why you saw like a massive rise in American nativism, so to speak, was because even with groups that were pretty approximate to America, like Germans, like Irish, like Italians. It was still different and it still changed the country forever. I mean, this is why people point to like the decline of the WASP core. It started then and it worked. Like they assimilated very well.
Starting point is 01:02:11 I mean, obviously at this point, I mean, there's really no distinction between like an Italian and an English descended person. But I'm just simply making the point that like any group coming into the United States at high volume will change the country. But if they're from like Somalia, then it's going to change it for the worst, much worse. The difference now between when you were what you were talking about, when you were growing up, is that you get Italians, Jews, whoever, all these different enclaves. But with the internet, it's kind of like a culture preserver.
Starting point is 01:02:36 You can, if we went to Japan and we wanted to start America town, we have the internet. We could build it and it would never become Japanized. We would be ultimate, we could create America from within with the internet. So you're seeing that here. Yeah. Immigrants now, they'll keep up with like their native country's news publications. They speak with family all the time. They're repatriating money.
Starting point is 01:02:55 They send money back home all the time. So, yeah, I mean, the internet has effect. made a simulation almost impossible unless the key here is if it's at very low volume. We had Jeremy Carl on the show and he made this point and he's like, you know, he's like, I know Indian guys that are just like very obviously American, but what's the commonality? Well, they grew up in Eastern Oregon or they grew up in rural Texas or they grew up in rural Kentucky, places where they would be surrounded by Americans and so they couldn't form that ethnic enclave. The problem comes when they come in mass and volume and then set up ethnic enclaves
Starting point is 01:03:26 to your point, then you can develop community around that. And they have no incentive to assimilate at that point. What would be your incentive? And you're talking about bringing in Germans and such. The Germans have been successfully siopped into hating themselves and hating their culture and hating anything that they've ever been as Germans because they just call it Naziism. Right. Right. And so those people fundamentally, you bring them into our country, bring in, you know, probably the majority of them over there in Germany right now. And they're not going to assimilate with traditional American values.
Starting point is 01:03:58 They're going to push straight left because that's what they're taught. That is their way of, I guess, what's it, paying back for the sins of their grandparents back in World War II. And I think, I've said this, I think I probably even said this on the last show that we had. I think that has been the most successful si-up of all time is what they did in Germany. And they want the rest of us to feel guilty about being American and in our past as well. They want to dilute the American exceptionalism. That's why they opened the borders during the last four minutes, the last president. They opened the borders to it.
Starting point is 01:04:35 They have to dilute this American spirit. So there's not a lot of us left. My opinion, it took 3% for Washington's. When George Washington fought for this country, it was only 3% that came and fought by his side. And by the way, it's only going to be 3%. My opinion, it's only going to be 3% that will do it. It's a bigger one because we have more people. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:00 There's only going to be 3% that are going to fight for this country. And German Americans, Italian Americans, Irish Americans, French Americans, they will fight for this country and they love this country. And I know them. You know, because they came from areas that were not good. They wanted this dream and they want their children to have this dream. That's what I want. That's why I fight because I want my grandchildren.
Starting point is 01:05:30 I want to die handing over the torch of America freedom to my grandchildren. I want them to have what I had, what you had, what you have? What country can you go protest like they're protesting out on the streets today? You can't go to a country. You can't, Antifa, Black Lives Matter. You can't go to any other country and do that. You can do it here. Well, they arrested a bunch of people at the United Kingdom.
Starting point is 01:05:57 God, because they have to. But you can't do that in other countries. You can't do that. Along with what you're saying about the 3% of Americans that fought alongside George Washington, they also had the French, which I think kind of get thrown under the rug a little bit, but the French probably covered 90% of the cost of the revolution. Like they bankrupted their kingdom to disempower the English. So if we had to establish another worldwide revolution and only 3% of us were willing like a digital revolution or something, we would need help from outside. We couldn't do it. We need people around the world that believe in the American values that want to instantiate that on the internet that are willing to throw down their arms. Well, look what's
Starting point is 01:06:34 happening around the world. Look at Tommy Robinson over there. Look at what's happening. I know this. I talk to people all over the world. The nations are looking to America right now to see what we're going to do. They are, every single nation has had a corrupt leader, okay, dictator or prime minister or king or whatever they're they're all sick of it that's why you see you know el sarah you see certain things changing but they're all looking to america because they we should have been spreading our beautiful country values our our our principles what they founded this with we should have been spreading that to the world instead of wars that we've had all these stupid wars we've been involved with and we we didn't do the right thing that's what i believe god wanted us to do when he
Starting point is 01:07:26 gave us this country. He wanted us to share it with the rest of the world. I don't know about sharing in terms of like making Venezuela the 51st state though. I'm not going to be totally. I'm not talking about I'm totally I'm totally kidding. You know, everybody be free. Everybody, everybody, everybody have freedom, real freedom. Self-governance. It's a tough sell for like the king of England. He doesn't want it because he'll lose his job. Exactly. They'll lose their wealth too. But self-governance. I thought so too in 2000, 2001. I was like, oh, we won. America, now everyone's going to want to be America. United States is at the top of every drop-down list, even though it's alphabetical. We did it. Everyone speaks English. You know, that's the language of commerce,
Starting point is 01:08:05 they call it. And then the stupid war in Iraq pissed everybody off. Oh, it was awful. It was awful. It was an absolute awful. They did it to control the Suez. I understand. They want control of the region so that they can dominate trade. But like at what cost pissing people off? Since Bush won and he was the CIA director, look at this stuff up. This guy changed the CIA. I mean, this thing's changed. These guys have been working together towards a whole, even the Vatican, and I know this, have been working together for a global kind of everybody's the same global world. It gives them more control that way.
Starting point is 01:08:41 That's right. Of course. And it's working. But look at these things like the, and I know the people in the chat, you know, the select few that are calling me racist saying that I just don't like brown people. I want to deport, you know, like a healthy portion of white women as well. This is not a race thing. I'm just being totally honest with you. But there is a cancer, a mental cancer that is spreading where you look up in New York City right now.
Starting point is 01:09:07 Who is the biggest hero in New York City? Kevin O'Leary. Kevin O'Leary. He's up there at the top. He's up there. No, that's a hell of a topic right there. The most controversial thing about him with me right now is the fact that he wears a suit with flip-flops. That is a no-go.
Starting point is 01:09:24 But look at, we used to do that growing up. Oh, geez. All the surfers did that. A suit? Oh, yeah, with flip-flops. Oh, yeah. Hell of a time to grow up. Some didn't even wear shoes.
Starting point is 01:09:36 Yeah, did this show barefoot about 400 times. Tim's mom was like, tell him to put some shoes on. Luigi Mangione, we still got to talk about this stuff apparently. And I am genuinely afraid at this point that this guy is going to actually be acquitted because they've made him into a folk hero. And I think that that is going to understand. unleash an avalanche of really, really negative effects. There are a lot of us that can't even, you know, really can't just walk around in public
Starting point is 01:10:04 anymore because you're worried about, okay, if there's no repercussions for people that are assassinating you in the street, they're going to try to get the Tyler Robinson guy off in, where, Utah out there. They're working really hard at that. And now you've got these people right here. This is incredible to me. These have been credentialed by the city of New York. These reporters, quote unquote, use that word very lightly, where they are celebrating the assassination.
Starting point is 01:10:37 They're wearing their press badges out here. Celebrating the assassination of the United Healthcare CEO. And you don't have to like the United Healthcare CEO. But you also don't have to go out there and cheer on extrajudicial killings in the middle of the road. wearing your press badges that I guess were erroneously given to you. I don't see you as a member of the press if you are cheering this stuff on. And they're clearly not worried about their press credentials being revoked. And some of the stuff they were saying when they were interviewed about it is wild.
Starting point is 01:11:12 F. Brian Thompson, who is a CEO. That's all I want to say. F. Brian Thompson. F. his mom. His children are better off without him. They need to learn. to be like their dad and enjoy the blood money kids he's responsible for more deaths than osama bin laden i mean you've got to be joking these people are openly members of the
Starting point is 01:11:35 quote-unquote press are now celebrating cold-blooded murder in the middle of the street you say quote-unquote press why who are these people well they have press badges they have city issued press these are issued by their issue doesn't make a yeah like where do they come from i don't recognize them you know so i mean anybody that's celebrating somebody killing somebody is absolutely insane and it's like should be looked into like they did it to the president of the United States now mind you I don't care how you feel about Trump but still you it's the it's the office it's like the president it's a president of our country like you don't wish people dead you just don't do that it's just like in war it's just awful in war you would
Starting point is 01:12:19 celebrate your soldiers killing the enemy you know that's real but this isn't war this is a This is just nasty violence. This is a little anecdote. They're wearing makeup and celebrating murder. They had to put on their makeup to celebrate a guy's murder. You got to wear this costume. You got a lot of mental illness. This is like, well, one, I mean, to get a press badge in New York City, I know anecdotally.
Starting point is 01:12:41 You only need to cover five events and then it give you a badge. So it's like you can literally just film with your phone as long as you film five incidents and get a press badge. But in addition to this, actually I'm not really surprised that they celebrated Trump. Kirk, et cetera, because to your point, think about when Osama bin Laden was killed. The entire country celebrated. No one, some people, but the majority of people didn't have this like, hmm, should we be celebrating this? No, he terrorized us.
Starting point is 01:13:03 He was our enemy, and he was dead, and we celebrated it. And I don't feel bad about it. I don't know if anyone, this table feels bad. I saw the video at the Red Sox game and they all got up and clapped. I was like, let's go. Granted, I was like nine. But anyway, these people view themselves in an existential war against the right, against classical America.
Starting point is 01:13:21 So again, when our guys die, they view that the same way when we killed Osama bin Laden we celebrated that's how they felt when Charlie Kirk died because they hate us so much they view us as belligerence and a war again these people aren't equipped for war obviously you can just look at them
Starting point is 01:13:35 but they know that they have mechanisms institutions that are fighting this war for them so when Charlie Kirk died when Donald Trump got shot at they celebrated like Osama bin Laden was killed and it makes total sense so it's like I'm not even surprised whatsoever because that's just the situation that we're in well look at out in
Starting point is 01:13:51 Minneapolis where a lot of us have been on the ground reporters have been attacked conservative on the ground reporters have been routinely attacked in places like Portland, Minneapolis, hell even New York and it's the DAs out there will openly tell us that they will just not it's not it's pointless for for them to charge our attacker Savannah Hernandez was pretty brutally attacked the Turning Point USA reporter out there what four or five weeks ago specifically because she was a reporter for Turning Point USA.
Starting point is 01:14:27 It was on camera. They were bragging about it. They were celebrating the fact that they had just physically attacked her in the street. And it took the feds to get involved because the local DA was like, there's no point in us charging them because the jury is just going to nullify. And that is what's being instilled in the modern left is they are being coached into not having to convey, even if somebody is genuinely, obviously guilty,
Starting point is 01:14:54 they are being taught by the Soros-funded, it doesn't even just Soros. It's like you name it. It's a machine, by the way. Exactly. It is a machine. And unfortunately, it's effective. It's working.
Starting point is 01:15:06 Of course. Well, that's why the conservative, like an organization like mine, we don't have any funds to do the work we do. They have a ton of money, okay? They have a ton of money. and the conservative groups, I've been at this for five years now.
Starting point is 01:15:20 I took this over five years ago and my brother went around this country and thanked the American, but I watched conservative groups and I watched people that are American groups. They don't have the strategy the left has. They give out a message and every soldier follows every talking point.
Starting point is 01:15:41 They follow their gone. You know, they do it. The conservatives, they're fighting over, resources, they're fighting over. Don't, don't look at my stuff. I don't want you to have this donor. It's unbelievably ridiculous. We're spending our time arguing over Thomas Massey versus some warm body there in Kentucky. We're spending tens of millions of dollars doing it. And, you know, you may not like to hear this, but they're effective at it. They are very good. These people are amazing at organizing. They go out in the street and they knew that they were using Renee Good
Starting point is 01:16:14 out there in Minneapolis as a sacrificial lamb. They knew exactly what was going to happen when you, you know, try to force yourself into the middle of an active raid. What happens when you try to run over a federal agent? Oh, look at Jay-Six. You're going to get shot, and then they had to sacrifice somebody because that changed the entire game. That's why I'm saying that they won out there, because what happened now?
Starting point is 01:16:36 Now we are too afraid to make headlines every once in a while with ice raids. What happens when you're too afraid to go out there and make headlines? people are less afraid. Illegals are less afraid to leave the country. What is the incentive to self-deport at this point? Is there any? Because if you're only sweeping up the worst of the worst, and keep in mind you're not really the worst of the worst
Starting point is 01:16:57 until you murder or rape somebody, then why would you leave? You're being told that you're allowed to stay. Yeah, you'll just go hide and go get some more money. And they're funding these people. They're giving them money. I mean, look at all the taxpayer money that's been given to these people.
Starting point is 01:17:12 We talked about remigration. on the Friday episode that Tate was hosting. And generally that's a tactic that an aggressive, like if you conquer land, you'll take the population and you'll send them off on trains out of your country. You get them out of there. Deport, forcefully deport, remigrate these people.
Starting point is 01:17:29 It's been happening for tens of thousands of years. It's a way to, you know, punishment or what you do with those that have not been enslaved. But how aggressive would you guys like to see the remigration efforts right now? How forceful. I want the military out there in the street. Oh, I do too.
Starting point is 01:17:44 I want the military out there. Let me tell you something. I know this campaign. Donald Trump got elected. You know what he got elected for? He got elected for accountability. Americans want accountability. They want arrests. Listen, my brother was persecuted. He was persecuted by the government. A three-star general that what they put my family through, you don't think we want accountability to these people. We want this Russia gate, all this stuff. They targeted my family. They targeted my brother. This is disgusting what they've done. And we cannot, we, Americans want accountability. They demand it. And that's why Bondi was having such a hard time because things weren't, you know, when he got in and the American people, they went and voted.
Starting point is 01:18:31 They got him in. It's no, to me, it's the American people that did that for Donald Trump, for, for President Trump. It wasn't, I know donors and all that, but it's really, really the president needs. to understand that he owes the American people the total focus of what, of what, because his job, you know what his job is? His job is to protect the American people at all costs. Americans. So we don't have a lot of Americans in this country that are Americans, right? We have all these illegals. They've thousands and thousands. By the way, they lost 500,000 children, by the way, from the border that we still don't deal with. And they've been telling us for, hell, I haven't even
Starting point is 01:19:12 been alive for as long as they've been telling us that there are 20 million illegals in the country. So you're going to tell me now the number is still 20 million for over the past 30 years? It's death taxes, Iran's a year away from a nuclear bomb, and there's 20 million illegals in the country. And I mean, I'm sure I'm going to get myself in trouble talking about it, but I mean, you're very intelligent person. It's the American people that need to be, the American people need some tender love, okay, by this administration, by any administration.
Starting point is 01:19:42 by any politician that's elected, okay? They all need to, they don't even take their oath seriously anymore, okay? These guys don't even take their oaths. I don't care if he's a good guy or a bad guy or whatever. Take those oaths seriously. We don't even have that anymore in this country. And it's a career to be a politician. Like, who wants to be a politician for 30 years, 40 years?
Starting point is 01:20:04 Look at the guy, he's like half dead. Yeah, McConnell. McConnell. I mean, I was thinking of half the Senate. Me too. I know. Like, who could we be talking about a lot of people? I mean, I just see him and I'm like, how does that happen?
Starting point is 01:20:19 You know? It's a point of like, you know, we're talking about political capital. Where do you allocate it? And it was just completely misallocated with Iran. Again, if you're going to expend political capital, because whether we like it or not, this is like a hard pill to swallow for conservatives, the majority of our positions are deeply unpopular with the American people. We found that out for Dobbs.
Starting point is 01:20:35 I'm very pro-life. I don't think people are radical enough on abortion. Nope, they're not. I can't acknowledge that after Dobbs, that harmed us. Yeah. We had to expend political capital there and then make it up elsewhere. But would you rather do it on mass deportations and would you rather do it on bombing a sand country thousands of miles away? And that's what makes it so bizarre because it's like, okay, I understand there's a lot of problems getting these people out of the country.
Starting point is 01:21:00 I mean, we saw that the Democrats turned one guy into a wedge issue. So I understand that. What I'm saying is even if you're going to allocate political capital elsewhere, even you're going to do it mass deportations, do it somewhere that's not like spitting. in the face of your base, where it's like, that was the one thing in 2016, you know, beyond like a lot of his main things he ran on. One of the main things he ran on was like, not just no new wars, because there's some wars that, not we had the stomach for it, but we actually quite like Venezuela. I was like, yeah, let's go.
Starting point is 01:21:25 But Middle Eastern quagmires, that is what we're sick and tired of. Absolutely. And so this is why it's just. Nobody wants ground troops. Yeah, so that's why it's just so frustrating to see because I, and I am in this boat, there's a guy prowler on, on Twitter, and he's a mass deportations. enthusiast. And he's done a lot of great work, like documenting how difficult ICE's job is, how difficult DHS's job is. So I fully understand that the temperament in a large chunks of the Trump
Starting point is 01:21:51 administration right now is still on mass deportation. So I'm giving them grace. I'm just making the point that, again, if we're talking about where we're allocating political capital, if you can't get the mass deportations done, then allocate it elsewhere. Don't allocate it to another reward for the base. Spend it somewhere else that's going to be a reward for the base. I understand. I can have grace for that. I understand how government works. Like, it's a very complicated process, especially liberal democracies. I rant. I mean, I hate to like that.
Starting point is 01:22:16 I agree. We've been talking about for months. I have to have a leader that actually has will. That's right. You have to have the will to do it. Buckele, he had the will to do it of a unified vision of how to reform his country. We don't have to go that extreme, obviously. But there isn't a will.
Starting point is 01:22:29 You could clean up Chicago on a Sunday if you had a leader that had the will to actually do it. San Francisco, if you remember when when Xi Jinping came over. That was an exception. We really wanted to make it nice for him. This is the problem. It's like. He had the will for that. It's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:22:41 They can do that. But this is the problem with the United States, specifically in Western democracies by and large, is Buckele can do that because he has a 92% approval rating because 92% of El Salvador said crime is ruining my life. Now, in the United States, people can identify that America is not functioning properly, but they can't actually articulate why. That is what's frustrating. So even if Trump were to carry out mass deportations, it probably is like 30% approval in the country.
Starting point is 01:23:05 I know we cite deportations of illegals as a majority opinion. it's true. But like conducting what is needed is going to be very unpopular. But you have to do it. And so again, it's like I agree it's a will thing. But also, you know, we're still in a democracy. Like it's tough to just like go mask off. I think probably at some point he should if we're really back to your corner. If we can get it done legally and like when still win elections, that's way better. That's a way better situation. It feels like you know if sometimes someone, a stabbing victim will have like a metal rod stuck through their arm. You don't, if you pull the rod out, they'll bleed out. out and die. And that's the immigration issue right now. If we yank it out, we're going to, we're all
Starting point is 01:23:43 going to, it's going to, people will use the internet. Because it's the internet. Back in the 50s, you could do it. No one would know you're even doing it. Beat them up. Take them out. It's horrible. But brutal and effective. But now we need to be super surgical about how we do this if we even can do it. Do we have the time? I don't think we don't have the time to be surgical. That's why I'm saying, like, you know what? If you get rid of all of them and you're saying, oh, well, we got rid of some good ones. Okay, then we can bring the good ones back. Okay. That's the way. We told them that. And there will be, like, downstream economic benefits. The AHS told them that.
Starting point is 01:24:11 Yeah. They said that. Well, and seeing his point, I mean, yes, there will be, like, some labor shortages. But beyond that, there's going to be so many benefits to the American people if you carry this out, like housing. Like, the housing stock's going to get freed up, jobs will get freed up. Like, a lot of resources that are not being allocated towards Americans will get freed up for Americans, especially young Americans.
Starting point is 01:24:27 So it's just the problem is some people are just ideologically left this. Explain this. Explain this part to them. Well, but the thing is, like, some people that are. Some will never change, though. Some will never, they're never going to change. What you just said is very important. Right.
Starting point is 01:24:41 You can tell them the whole true facts right to their face some people, and they have derangement syndrome. Whatever that, they will not believe it. But it's not. And it will never change. It's almost mind control, honestly. These people are, I've seen it. It's crazy how some of these people are.
Starting point is 01:25:01 They are. You can't get them to see the truth. And that's when they jump to like the whole, the racist, Yes, they jump to all this other stuff you see and all this other creak. That's my point. That's my point is that's why we can't actually have like a bouquet in the United States is because they're going to make it a wedge issue. And as soon as it happens, it doesn't matter how successful you are, 40% of the country ballpark will just hate you instinct. Well, there's lawsuits.
Starting point is 01:25:23 They're filing lawsuits, you guys. This is what the left is doing. That's what they did. That's what they did to Trump. That's what they did. My brother, that's what they did. They file lawsuits on you. They use the court system to file lawsuits under.
Starting point is 01:25:35 And it just ties things up. So think about this. It's weaponized. It's weaponized. The messaging part that I'm talking about here. If we could somehow explain to young people in particular, you go to New York City now, if you went there, say, six, seven years ago, look at the hotel prices back then versus what they are now. That's hotels. That's not even counting, you know, actual primary residences or any residences for that matter.
Starting point is 01:26:01 You are competing. If you are trying to live in New York, you are directly competing with billions and billions of dollars. of taxpayer funding, subsidizing illegal housing. You are directly competing with the government and illegals on housing. So of course you're never going to be able to afford a house out there or any sort of residence out there. But the problem is you can't actually explain it to the youth because the driving, the engine room of leftism is they just fundamentally hate white people. That's what it comes down to. So again, when you're trying to explain to them the benefits of Massey Purch.
Starting point is 01:26:31 You could put it all on a spreadsheet and show them how your life specifically will improve if we carry this out. They'll also say, I don't care. I want white people to be disenfranchised in this country. That's where they- Full stop. It's gone that far. It's gone that far. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:43 So, I mean, it's like you could lay it out, but this is the problem at a certain point. You know, there's only so much bargaining you can do it. At some point, you just have the grasp power. You have to grasp the sword and be confident wielding the sword. I think there's a lot of people that are just, they just hate America too. And they should leave. They should go find another country and see what that's like. But why?
Starting point is 01:27:01 Right, because they can do it here. Yeah. Because they're allowed to. They can do it here. And leftists never retreat. That's the thing is leftists never retreat. They just changed institutions. We've seen it in virtually every instance where it never occurred to them when they were in the
Starting point is 01:27:13 Episcopal Church in the 1940s and it was quite conservative. It didn't occur to them that say, maybe I should just find a different church. They said, no, I'm going to change this. Conservatives have the opposite approach to say, wow, this is getting bad. I've got to get out of here. This is why you're seeing. Again, you know, people, I'll do. They ran.
Starting point is 01:27:25 Yeah, and I'll get granular here. That's right. For example, because this is the way conservatives think. They think like this. So when a lot of people started moving into Texas and then Texas started to get blue, they were saying it must be these people moving from out of state because in their head bad means they flee. Most of those people moving to Texas were Republicans. My point is, again, liberals will just stay and change the state where conservatives will leave. So that's why the conservatives
Starting point is 01:27:47 was like a misunderstanding with what was happening when people were moving out of state into Texas, because that is just the temperament where conservatives will just flee. And I can understand in certain circumstances. I know California is getting quite bad, but my point is a leftist living in Mississippi will never leave. They just want Mississippi to change. And they will stay there and fight. issue lawsuits, they'll do whatever it takes. They'll fight tooth and nail to change their environment. Yeah, they'll vote people in. They'll vote their guys in. That's what they do. They turn out for voting. Republicans do not turn out. Well, they did in 2024. That was impressive. But overall, really, it was like 35 percent, which won it, but, I mean, for Trump, but it really wasn't a big
Starting point is 01:28:28 turnout, but it was, it won it. I'm just saying, like it was a real, like the percentages, are like small. I think the hive mind of leftism is because without a God to believe in you. Yeah, they don't have a God. You don't believe in your political process. But I will, I do disagree with what you said, that the engine room of leftism is the hatred of whites. I think that's the critical race theory aspect. It's like on top of just the, the, that the leftist mentality is to hate the, the, the classes above you, whatever that might be at the time, whether it's the bankers or the, the, the, the geriatric old people with all the money or the white people. or the black people, whoever has control of the society, it's the class warfare that's really
Starting point is 01:29:09 the heart of leftism. But I don't know if that's true, because I mean, like a good case study would be South Africa, for example, is their main gripe in South Africa, like the black nationalists, which are like increasingly large share of their country. Their main problem isn't billionaires. Their main problem is white billionaires. They believe that white billionaires are the ones extracting prosperity from South Africa, et cetera, et cetera. You can move that to the United States. If you're a black billionaire, you're celebrated and you're parade around. It's like, fair enough. I mean, we probably should be. celebrating successful people. So I'm not like,
Starting point is 01:29:36 that's not a knock on them. But again, white billionaires, this guy, Brian Thompson, he deserves to die. Why? If it was a black CEO, would they do that? Probably not. The reason why leftism fails is because if the white people were removed from power in society, the leftism would rear its ugly head and aim it at another class of person.
Starting point is 01:29:52 It doesn't... It would always find a... It would always find something to go at. And they are told to do that too, by the way, the next thing. Look at the transit. Look at where it came with kids. All the way to changing children's Gender. But ultimately, they'll still shadow box against white people.
Starting point is 01:30:07 Like you saw it in Zimbabwe, for example. So used to be Rhodesia, became Zimbabwe. They kicked all the whites out. There's like no whites left in Zimbabwe. Robert Magabe until his last breath was still saying there's some shadowy cabal of white people still like ruining Zimbabwe. And that was the problem. And we haven't fully decolonized.
Starting point is 01:30:21 That's what the term decolonization comes from. That's an anti-white slur that they use. Because again, Robert Magabe's contention in Zimbabwe, when there was like a thousand whites left was that they were still the problem. So it didn't matter like how bad things got around them. The majority of Zimbabweans eventually got rid of them, but it's still the same like driving force, which is no, the problem isn't the elite. The problem is the composition of the elite.
Starting point is 01:30:43 They want to change the composition of it. Yeah, but it's also black on black wars going on there. I mean, I just came back from South Africa and I witnessed it. And Johannesburg was a beautiful, beautiful place at one time. And it's all Somalian. and it's absolutely destroyed it. And there's children. It's just, it's horrible to watch this.
Starting point is 01:31:10 But it is a lot black on black. Yeah, but like all over Africa. Yeah, no, it's true. I mean, I was there fairly recently. And one thing you'll notice is that they go out of their way. Out of all the problems going on, like Pretoria, for example. Yeah, I was in Pretoria. Fantastic City.
Starting point is 01:31:24 Yeah, but everybody's gated. Yeah. But you can tell it has the bones of a beautiful city. They're not safe. But what's interesting is like, what you'll see when it comes to decolonization is what do they spend all their time on, renaming streets from Afrikaans, Dutch, to some African name. You renamed a city of Pretoria to Shoshwane.
Starting point is 01:31:41 Well, because I don't... They're shadow boxing against people that aren't the problem. I mean, I know that if I'm on Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Boulevard, I'm in the wrong part of town, and I need to turn around. So, I mean, I at least appreciate that part of it. But, you know, it's just, again, I'm just tired of pretending that we can't be talking about the racial differences, the cultural differences, all of this stuff here. And I'm glad it's being renormalized.
Starting point is 01:32:04 And even, you know, the older generation is starting to grasp it. You've still got a lot of, we'll say, boomers and the silent generation. Maybe boomers. The older folks, they're refusing to open their eyes to a lot of different things. And another thing that they are having trouble opening their eyes for is what is going on in the state of Kentucky right now with this in Kentucky's fourth congressional. congressional district is now the most expensive congressional race in American history, the most expensive primary, congressional primary in history. Yeah, in United States history.
Starting point is 01:32:43 United States history. We are now at $33 million spent just in the Republican primary, and that doesn't count what's being spent over the next, you know, 12 hours or so. These are numbers from a few days ago. you've got about 50% more being spent either pro-Gowryne or anti-Massie, about $16 million, and then Massey, about $10 million been spent pro-Massie anti-Gall-Rine. I mean, just wild numbers. And for what?
Starting point is 01:33:16 To try and oust the guy that Donald Trump's trying to oust the guy that's been trying to stop him up. Actually, Massey's going hard on Epstein. I think that's the big problem because I think Trump has the Epstein, a lot of Epstein. files and he's using them to blackmail the deep state right now. And he's like, I can't say it out loud. Stop this guy. Make him stop. We have the files now. Stop. And I wish Tom you would kind of ease off the gas on the Epstein stuff because you're the best congressman we got and vote Massey tomorrow. Vote. Yeah. Well, I mean, let's look at this. Let's look who is funding this stuff. I've got the numbers right here in front of me. There's a lot of, you have the APAC plus the Republican Jewish Coalition victory
Starting point is 01:33:54 refund. You combine the two of them and you're pushing $10 million just between them, anti-Massie ads. He's getting, who is it, the Jewish, a Republican Jewish coalition. A Jewish coalition. Yeah, I think that they've got the Epstein stuff. These guys, it's just like a Mossad thing. Yeah. And that should be concerned, whatever you think about Massey, like, is it not concerning
Starting point is 01:34:15 to think that, okay, well, we're basically allowing people that have interests that aren't, you know, America first to buy a seat in Kentucky. Is that not concerning? Very sad. I mean, it's unbelievable. It's just, I mean, I just came back from Dallas and Dallas, all my, you should see Dallas, the Republicans, they are so divided. It's unbelievable. I mean, we lose Dallas, we lose the country.
Starting point is 01:34:42 We lose Texas. Excuse me. We lose Texas. We lose the country. I think we surrendered Dallas to, what, Mumbai? Well, everybody goes down there to, yeah, to raise, they, that's, you know, You want to raise money, you go to Dallas. It doesn't matter Kentucky, where you come from, you go to Dallas.
Starting point is 01:34:57 You raise money from anywhere, go to Dallas. I got mixed feelings on taking foreign money for campaigning, or at least foreign out of your state. I'll even call that foreign money because it's not your, I'm not in Kentucky right now, and Massey's not my congressman, but I'm campaigning for him literally right now when I tell you, go vote for Thomas Massey. That's a campaign thing.
Starting point is 01:35:14 I didn't get paid for it, but if it would cost a lot of money for someone to buy this seat right now to be able to say to you what they want to say, people could offer Tim $50,000 he might still say no. This is a value. It's like, what does money buy? It buys you publicity.
Starting point is 01:35:29 I already have the publicity. I don't need the money now. But I'm getting the same value. So that's where my mixed feelings are and people throwing money at campaigns. Yeah. Crazy. I ran an campaign down in Florida and I
Starting point is 01:35:40 ran in a simple little, this is Arizona. Florida's got a lot of money too, guys. I mean, I saw corruption. I was glad I ran because I saw the corruption. It opened my eyes. But I'm going to tell you something. I ran, I had $215 in my, in my election bank account.
Starting point is 01:35:57 That's all I had, because I was running for a school board, which is a national public health hospital down there, which is one of the biggest national public hospitals in the country, Sarasota Memorial. And they spent, Democrats spent $300,000 and three packs on me. 7,000 Democrats switched parties in the primary to vote against me. Just a little hospital board so I wouldn't go in there and audit. You want to guess. I was going in there to go audit. I'll open the table up for, I'll open the table up for guesses here. What do you think the percentages of donors for Gal Ryan in the state of Kentucky?
Starting point is 01:36:40 You want to guess? 98%. In the state of Kentucky? I don't know. What was the exact question? How much money versus how much? percentage of pro-gal rind donations have originated in the state of kentucky yeah less than 10 for sure tay what do you think i said one percent i probably probably
Starting point is 01:36:57 load like five 10 percent um it's less than one percent yeah it's less than one because he's got pro-israel organizations he's got trump align packs and major gop mega donors so that's him 16 million yeah you're right you're right on the money mary there it's uh it's so about six 16 million in total spending, pro-galine anti-massy spending. Yeah. 32,000 of that is from Kentucky. Yeah. I don't know how.
Starting point is 01:37:26 So one of the issues that you guys, and I get this from the child project that I have, and I know a lot of people on the ground rescuing children all over the world. I mean, I've got the best of the best to these teams. And I'm going to tell you something that you've got to understand the whole global picture. So Israel is a safe haven for pedophiles. Oh, documented. Many of our Congress, members of our Congress, many of them, are dual citizenship. And their dual citizenship is Israel.
Starting point is 01:38:01 You look it up. There's a list of them. Why do people do that? First of all, when you're in Congress, you should never be a dual citizenship. You should be an American. That's my opinion. I think there's a law about that. But they got away with that.
Starting point is 01:38:15 Secondly, Israel is also, so being, being, and I worked in the Catholic Church, I was a whistleblower for the Catholic Church, understand that every single religion, instant religion, not the faith, faith, okay, is corrupt. There's two sides to Israel. In fact, Israel has the Zionists, the dark side, and the good side, the Hebrew, you know, kind of, you know, practicing faith, Jewish, just like Catholics, just like Methodists, just like Protestants. All these systems are corrupt. There's all dark sides to them. So you're going to understand, like, all this stuff you're talking about, Trump's son-in-law. is in in every single one of those negotiations you see hit you see jared in all those so he is a guy that i mean gaza listen they're killing christians over there you guys they're killed christians of the this is the most persecuted time of our lives right now in persecution of christians Nigeria all these places
Starting point is 01:39:28 all over the world and by the way israel i know people that are hebrew christians and the the jews that don't believe in Christ, they spit on Christians. They were brought up like that. So there's always this divide in culture, in religion, okay? So I'm just saying, like, this Epstein stuff you're talking about, ditty stuff. There's more, there's more Epstein's than you can imagine. Because the CIA used a lot of these guys to do a lot of, they espionage. They blackmail politicians. My brother used to say 15 years ago you could go outside the country to rape a child. You don't have to do that. 15 years ago, you could do it right here in this country. It's the biggest moneymaker of all criminal elements, drugs, guns, is human trafficking. Children are the most money part of it,
Starting point is 01:40:25 of the human trafficking. So they don't want to, you know, break into that, we got to cut the money off of that stuff. Epstein, Massey, those guys, the two girls, the two congressmen, was it Nancy Mace and the other one that's on that committee? They saw what's on those Epstein files. They're traumatized by that
Starting point is 01:40:46 stuff, just like the guys who saw Wiener's laptop. They're traumatized. New York cops committed suicide because of that laptop. I mean, these things are like the dirtiest of dirty. And like, why
Starting point is 01:41:02 why the American people cannot have justice over, there's so, listen, I know victims, I know survivors, I have whistleblowers now coming out, they got to deal with this Epstein stuff, they got to deal with this ditty stuff, they got to deal with the music industry, the Hollywood stuff that's going on, you're seeing, all of them turn skinny now, okay, there's something, you guys got to understand, that is a club, this is an overall, there's 13 families in charge, And I'm telling you right now, this, this Epstein stuff is not going away. It's not, Massey is right. He's right.
Starting point is 01:41:39 He just wants accountability because his people in his area are down his back. And I don't blame him. In an ethical sane society, we would root those people out, put them on trial. Absolutely. And the courts have their way with them. But in a world that we live in of gruesomeness, and it's like geopolitical subterfusion war, we use evil, vile things to our advantage when we can, and you'll keep it in your pocket as long as you can until you win.
Starting point is 01:42:06 That's the horror. You blackmail them. You get them in a position where they're with a child, whatever they're doing. I mean, this happens. This has been going on for a long time. The CIA used this tool to do that. And that's, you know, that's what they did in Hollywood back in the day because they had their own group going.
Starting point is 01:42:24 I mean, these are psychops. These are all kinds of operations they ran. And this is what's going on. with the kids is they were using children. And that's a dirty thing to do. Sometimes like true, like when you read about historical warfare, sometimes you would sack the city, you'd let your troops rape and pillage women on purpose to instill horror and terror like Genghis Khan would do it if the people fucking messed with them and they screwed him over.
Starting point is 01:42:49 He would come. And that was like a good tactic. So like having this data, this Epstein stuff, it's kind of like having all that like a fireball in your hand. I see why they're trying to stop Massey. I see why they don't want that out. But then there's the goodness of humanity where it's like, just do the right thing. Well, that's right.
Starting point is 01:43:08 I mean, by kids, do the right thing with kids. I mean, I always say, you know, if you're going to vote for, see, we've got to get people out to vote. We can't give up. Look, we're in an endurance race. I'm an athlete, okay? And everybody always says,
Starting point is 01:43:24 how do the Flins do this? How do you guys do this? Well, we do it because we're endurance athletes. That's what we were taught as kids to endure. Because they're trying to exhaust people so you back off and you just give up. That's their tactic is to exhaust people to back out and say, I give up. My question is, if the Epstein files came out, Trump was like, fine, fine, just let them all out. And then Lex Westner, for instance.
Starting point is 01:43:51 Well, he already wrote an executive order to do it. He's got an executive order to release the files. There was been a law pass to do it. that's right. And it's still not out, which is like, whoa, there's a reason. But if it came out and all these billionaire foreign princes and things saw it and they're like, what did you, you just betrayed me, Trump, fine, you're out. The Republican Party, you're out. We're going with the Democrats. We're going back to the status quo. Like, that's my concern. If it comes out, the big global cabal that's now working alongside Trump, it would would just toss him out. And they got him,
Starting point is 01:44:24 they got him as a shield right now because his base just believes him. I think he's a good. I think he's a good guy. I think he, I mean, I've met him, I've been around him. I, I just think that he's, he's got to, he's got to be tougher with this. And he's, by the way, he's got some people around him that are not giving him the right advice or giving him the right information, because that happened in 2016. That's why they, that's why they did what they did to them, because they were bad people around, even Republicans. Look, both sides have gotten us to the point we are at right now in this country. I blame Republicans and Democrats. I actually blame Republicans more because there's supposed to be Christian values. And they're the worst ones. The Christians can be the worst of the worst because the
Starting point is 01:45:08 hypocrisy is gross. So, I mean, the other ones, they don't believe in God. So like, you know, but we have a conscience. Christians believe in a set of values and we believe that certain things are going to happen if we if we hurt people or murder people, 10 commandments. So I think Trump does, but I just don't think, I'm dealing with the HHS. I have whistleblowers that know where these kids are. I gave them a plan before, I gave home in a plan. I gave them a plan to expedite to find the kids. We had, I have all the guys that know where do they are.
Starting point is 01:45:42 They blocked us, completely blocked us. Nobody wanted us to give that plan. Nobody wanted us to give them the way to do this. It was really, and it's still being blocked. I mean, HHS, Bobby Kennedy, I feel bad for him because he's doing, you know, what he's doing with the health stuff, which is great. But that HHS has like the third biggest budget in the country. They have welfare system. They have CPS system.
Starting point is 01:46:11 They got foster. They got the family court system. You're dealing with kids in the HHS. What are we doing with these kids? And it does go back. It has a lot to do with this stuff with all this abuse on children, Epstein, all this. espionage, all this blackmail is ridiculous. These people need to go to jail. I mean, look at the hush fund. They wouldn't even name the hush fund in Congress. How does that work with the
Starting point is 01:46:36 American people? What's that? What's that the hush fund? The sexual harassment fund that they had, anybody that got hurt Congress that, you know, sexually harassed or or hurt a, you know, a person with sex or whatever, there was a fund that they would pay them off in Congress. Who's funding it? I think we can Congress. I would recommend we we save that for the live
Starting point is 01:47:00 or the after hours show because that's a I've got a lot of opinions on that topic. I'm just saying. Epstein is like it is Massey is a good guy with this stuff. I really appreciate him.
Starting point is 01:47:12 I want to be able to bring up things that might get me sued if we do it live on air. That's what I want to use the after hour show for because we've been talking about actually a lot of the slush fund recently because I believe Nancy Mays got a copy of like part of it or whatever.
Starting point is 01:47:27 But I do want to say, Mary, you have had the hottest takes of the night, I'm to say pretty easily so far. So we definitely appreciate that. And we've got a ton of people lighting us up in the comment section as well. Super chats, whatever you call the rumble rants. Rumble rants, those. Yep, got those as well. And I do want to say, we're going to get to those here in just a second.
Starting point is 01:47:46 But I do want to say, people are like, oh, well, Massey's a Democrat. Massie's whatever. It's like, this is less about Massey and more about the fact that we are spending 10, of millions of dollars on people like opponents for him and then trying to save John Cornyn in Texas, which clearly nobody wants. And why don't we put this effort into like holding Thune's ass to the fire and getting the Save America Act passed through? If we put that, Tim said this actually the other day saying that why don't, why doesn't
Starting point is 01:48:15 the administration, why doesn't his funding apparatus, why don't they put that same effort toward, you know, going after John Thunner? and the other rhinos that are in the Senate. Absolutely, absolutely. I feel like that would be a lot more useful. Look at the Texas governor. The priority's in the wrong spot. Priorities in the wrong spot.
Starting point is 01:48:32 Yep. But, yeah, I guess we'll move on to do, do we, do we have that? Are we able to do that? We do. We do. We can, uh, yes. Super chats, rumble rants. It's a new term for me today.
Starting point is 01:48:40 I hadn't heard that before. So, but anyway. So here's the one right here, which is another patriot. Got a patriot. Another Patriots is in to the chat. Let me zoom in on this. I think I messed up. up Tim's little computer here.
Starting point is 01:48:56 Another Patriot's into the chat. Currently in the hospital, welcoming my third son. Thank God. All right. Fantastic. We love babies. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:49:05 We love babies. Yeah, I think Laura Lumer, I love her hater on X not too long ago. I think she was complaining about babies crying on airplanes. And I was like, you know, I stopped caring about babies crying on airplanes. If they're American babies, I'm like, you know what? I'll stay up for the. entire flight. That's fine. I'm just glad
Starting point is 01:49:26 there's an American baby sitting here. They're crying Spanish. Welcome to the world. Little Patriot. Get to work. There's a lot of primaries coming up, so go and file. Absolutely. Just raise them right. Well, I just want all babies. I want people to have babies because we need more babies.
Starting point is 01:49:44 We really do. We don't have enough babies. I was thinking we read that one first and then we just go from the top down. Top down? So we got hate speech is a made-up term developed by libs uh yeah i don't think you're gonna get oh i know this guy hi ryan how's it going man hope you're uh safe out there in portland that freaking hellhole of a banana republic um see i don't believe pot mrs robinson teachers are actual crimes ugly ones yes uh yeah we're just gonna he's getting out there down the line i don't know maybe we can try
Starting point is 01:50:22 maybe i'm missing something sometimes i'm on culture If you want to blame the parents, you have to give them back their rights to discipline the kids first, because this is a huge problem to parents. Actually, there is a lot of truth in that. And I also think that you should give power to teachers again, the good ones anyway. I mean, the bad ones probably aren't going to bother disciplining the children to begin with. But I went to a Catholic school growing up Catholic high school, and they just weren't allowed to discipline us. I was a horrible child.
Starting point is 01:50:50 Right. Mom went to Catholic school. She had, would go to school with dirty fingernails, and the nun would combine. smack her finger with a ruler. She was like, I'll never say my kids. Nons were tough. I have some stories. I have some stories. Did you do Catholic school?
Starting point is 01:51:02 All my life. I don't know. So what you? My whole family did. Discipline like my principal in elementary school. It was some tough nuns. Let me tell you. The Sisters of Mercy were tough.
Starting point is 01:51:12 One of my brothers got jacked up against the door one time, one of the school doors, and she broke the window. Now the school, you know, your classrooms have the window on top. She jacked him right up, broke the window right on top of his head. I probably say, that we were like bad kids, but honestly, we were like in a Catholic All-Boy's high school, like there really wasn't that much bad going. If somebody was drinking, it was like the scandal of the year, right? So, I mean, I guess we didn't really need to be beat, but, uh, we got quite drinking the wine. We did. We did. We did. I think pain isn't a really
Starting point is 01:51:48 good teaching tool, I think, because like, if someone's going to hurt themselves, you want to get, you want to stop them, but you don't want to hurt them them to make them stop, you know? So I don't know about when you say discipline. I don't know how far to take it or what with illegal. But going back to the comment that was here about we need to allow parents to discipline more.
Starting point is 01:52:08 But the parents in D.C., I'm sorry, just don't care at all about discipline. It's not that they don't care whether or not they're allowed to discipline. They're just they have no interest in doing so. I remember when my kids were growing up, we had a problem. They were the teachers were starting to like call CPS and stuff on parents because of certain things, right?
Starting point is 01:52:31 And parent parental, it's your right. It's your right to discipline a child. I mean, abuse is, you know, not good, but I'm just saying that they started to, you know, inform, you know, and kind of like abuse their power over parents. And parents have the right to do what they need to do with their children. I mean, as long as it's not, you know, I mean, whatever. I'm just saying that started to go away when my kids were growing up. I can see some public school teachers trying to make the argument, okay, yeah, you took your
Starting point is 01:53:01 kid's phone and Xbox away for the month, and now we can't communicate outside of school with his kids. So, like, that seems abusive. I feel like there would be some teachers that would try to make that argument. Or psychological abuse? Yeah. I haven't personally experienced overreach of psychological abuse policing through authorities, but that would be crazy.
Starting point is 01:53:21 But they are taking parents' rights away. We fight it all the time. We have plenty of cases about that. I mean, down in Florida, we've been fighting, you know, parental rights. And it is a very difficult thing because, remember, a part of the agenda of the left is to have the government run, raise your children. So that's what they're doing. It's tailored exactly the way that they want you to, the most convenient way for the globalist cabal and stuff. And they're just developing little minions.
Starting point is 01:53:49 I do particularly like this comment here. Nobody loves, can I say that word on it? I don't know. It's on YouTube. I don't want to demonetize Tim here. Nobody loves crap whole countries more than people who refuse to live there. Truest statement I think I've ever heard. The same people that are going out in the streets, rioting and waving Somali flags.
Starting point is 01:54:11 Like, try to send them back to Somalia and see how much they're going to want to do that. Classic Catch 2020. Classic Catch 20. 22, almost said 2022. Why do they strengthen our nation about strengthen their own? That's a very salient question. Exactly. Biden let all those illegals in.
Starting point is 01:54:28 Catch 2022. That's how many we need to see every hour to get the deportation numbers up. That's right. All right. So we got another one here. I'll try to say some names here. Hitman Zarelli. I feel like the question from Hitman Zarelli, really, I guess goes with the name here.
Starting point is 01:54:46 Is it at the point where a civil war is necessary? for future America was Kirk the last nail for civil debate? I personally don't see an off-ramp. No, the United States has never seen a civil war. What we call a civil war was a conventional war fought by two sides fighting against each other
Starting point is 01:55:03 in a convention. One side split off form. A new country, two countries went to it. Civil war is like where there's sniper rifles from windows, complete total breakdown of police, your car bombs. No, we don't want that. That wouldn't make the situation better even remotely. The rest of the world would take the country over. So no.
Starting point is 01:55:19 Yeah, and like I mean, insofar as we might see some more political assassinations, certainly, but I always push back on the idea that we're going to have a civil war because what I led the show with the point I made is as soon as gas at $4, everyone came unglued. So like Americans do not are not prepared to like fight in any real conflict. There's how much appetite for what that actually looks like. Again, people say they want that and people like, well, chess beat. But again, when things get uncomfortable, everyone just kind of freaks like COVID. Well, look at like tragedy though. Look at like 9-11, what people came together. Yeah. So now living in Florida, I've been through, and I've been through hurricanes before,
Starting point is 01:55:53 but Florida gets, you know, we got hit three times this past, not last year. We didn't have anything, but I've seen people like really, I mean, some of these areas were third world, and people come together. So Americans have that great part of their, you know, that heart for each other. They do come together and take care of each other and, you know, try to have. help and it does happen. I mean, there's more, there's criminal elements. I also saw people fighting over gas and shooting each other because they were doing that during Ian. And, you know, so there's that element. But what really is local, local action, like people stick together when there's tragedy. And Americans are very good-hearted people. They really are. I mean,
Starting point is 01:56:41 I believe that they really are. That's why they've given so much money to other words. nations, you know, we've given, we've been, we've tried to be, you know, good steward people, you know, but, but, but it got out of control. It's out of control. I mean, the corruption's out of control. People started saying, you know, taking their piece of the pie. Yeah. You know, taking the money. Taking the money. And money is the root of evil. It's, it's a tool we need. We have to have money to live. And we have the right to make as much money as we want in this country. That's the beauty of entrepreneurship in this country. But, you know, it can really twist people too. Greed is, we're seeing that. Seeing a lot of it, especially with these people that are
Starting point is 01:57:32 stealing our money and sending it back to Jack Fricistan. I guess we'll call it at this point. You know, it's just, that is my biggest issue and it will continue to be my biggest issue. And, you know, we can talk about that more in the after show here. But I want to read a couple of more here. This is from Dark Pine 76 here. Not the best title for this, but shout out to my wife of seven years today. More blessed
Starting point is 01:57:58 than I deserve for the two Patriots. She has given me in our plans for more. Christ is Lord. More patriots. Get to work right after the show here. We want to see massive copulation occurring.
Starting point is 01:58:14 We want to see a lot of bellies bumping and get some more patriots out in this world. You do that baby kick. Yeah. I do. I believe this. This is what I believe. I believe the little babies that are being born today
Starting point is 01:58:24 and the little children that have come out of the trafficking, and I've seen a lot of them, you guys. I believe that they are anointed, and I believe that they're going to be the next great leaders of this country, and of the world, of the world in a global way. And I do believe that God will take care of them. I believe he's going to anoint them. He does take care of the meek.
Starting point is 01:58:46 He does take care of the poor. He does, you know, the beatitudes tells about that. And, you know, the, you know, it's going to happen. I believe that these are special babies. So women have babies because they're going to be special, special. I agree. I agree. I think the American Caesar will be born on July 4th.
Starting point is 01:59:04 Yes. Well, if you recall, I mean, Trump was very adamant last fall that he wanted to see a baby boomer around America 250. So if all patriots were listening and doing their jobs, then we should see the nurseries overflowing. Overflowing. That's a good point about the. youth today. I think there was like a generation lost. No, if you're part of this generation, you can still make or break your life for the best. But there's like a 15 year swath of people
Starting point is 01:59:28 that were growing up from 2008 to 2020 that are just like ambivalently stuck and like twisted. It's not your fault. Society was crazy during those censorship years. But the people now are like open books. The kids that are listening now, kids grew up watching this show for seven years. they're seven years old, like, those guys are going to be heed in. You are right. Thank you. I do. I think he is going to raise up these babies to be the greatest leaders we have.
Starting point is 01:59:58 And I will say, just before we wrap up here, I do want to mention that, you know, people are like, I've heard people that have come up to me and be, they'd say things like, oh, well, is it worth, you know, having kids. I don't want to bring my kids into, like, a hellhole of a world. Why would we want to do that? That is a horrible way to look at it because I'm telling you. The younger generations, a huge, massive portion of them are on the right side of a lot of issues. They understand that a lot of these leftist policies don't work. They're not the ones that live in New York City, for example. There are some real patriots out there.
Starting point is 02:00:33 And the younger generations actually vote in a more traditionally conservative way than older folks do. And that is statistic. That is science. Bring your kids into this world, especially if you. you were a patriot. Yeah. And then raise your kids and be patriots as well. Don't be afraid.
Starting point is 02:00:50 I'm a mother, you know, and I remember, and I had a baby at 21 years old. And I was afraid you're afraid. But don't be afraid. Don't be afraid to have children because you know what? That child could be the president of the United States. Could be the, you don't know. That's why every child is so precious. They're so worthy.
Starting point is 02:01:11 So, guys, we definitely appreciate you joining us tonight. I appreciate the support for. guest hosting here on a whim. I enjoyed every part of this. We could go on for several more hours. And actually, I think we will go on for some more time right after this. Mary, it's been an honor. I'm very... Oh, I'm honored.
Starting point is 02:01:27 I'm telling you, some of your takes have been very base, so we appreciate that. Where do people find you? You can find me at America's Future. Right now, I'm leading a great organization, and America'sfuture.net, we got... You can find me right there.
Starting point is 02:01:43 You got a Twitter? I'm on Twitter. Yeah, I am on Twitter. People know me on Twitter. I think of Mary Flynn-O-Neill, one. The L is a one. I'm on that. I do X. I was doing truth. I'm not, you know, I'm not, I'm the kind of a person that puts this thing, this phone, this thing, this phone down.
Starting point is 02:02:02 I'm not. I'm not a person that, you know, I got to. You got to take a break from this stuff. You need your sanity. And it helps. You do, and, you know, take a breather. So, Ian, I don't know anybody that I've heard of you before, but. Oh, but if you haven't.
Starting point is 02:02:15 It's Ian Crossland. That's my name. I've been doing this for a long. I got into YouTube in 2006 because I cared so deeply for what the United States was going through that. I still care just as much now,
Starting point is 02:02:26 probably more. Follow me at Ian Crossland on the internet, on every platform you can find me on. Happy to be here. Tate Brown. Yeah, you can follow on my next Instagram
Starting point is 02:02:33 at Real Tate Brown. If you haven't heard of me either, I'm a lover, a fighter, a patriot. Loves to use big words. Yeah, things like that. I really love Carter.
Starting point is 02:02:42 On my camera. It's just so hot. Fantastic. Yeah, it is hot. Well, people don't need to see me. I have more of a face for podcasts. It's horrible. I'll be modest.
Starting point is 02:02:53 Chris. Chris Car 17 on X. Check out my substack. Chriscar. com. That's Car with a K-A-R. Over there, you're going to find me writing about movies and interesting people.
Starting point is 02:03:02 And Carter, do your camera work? Find me. My camera is on right now. And I don't know how, I guess, tastes just went out for the first time tonight because it is very hot in here.
Starting point is 02:03:09 You can find me at Carter Banks. But actually, just hang around for the after show on Rumble. It's going to be pretty cool. We got a lot of stuff to talk. about let's do it. All right. Yep. Appreciate you guys.
Starting point is 02:03:19 I'm Nick Sorder. You can find me on X. That's the main platform. X at Nick's order, N-I-C-K-S-O-R-T-O-R. Again, I'll just get banned on every other platform. Thank you guys. We'll see you in the after show.

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