Timcast IRL - Matt Gaetz Withdraws As Trump AG, Russia Fires IRBM Strike, Says UK At War w/Ami Kozak

Episode Date: November 22, 2024

Tim, Phil, Ian, & Elaad are joined by Ami Kozak to discuss Matt Gaetz withdrawing his name from consideration for Attorney General, Russia launching an IRBM strike on Ukraine, Joe Rogan mocking The View after they claim he believes in dragons, and the Jaguar car company getting roasted for their cringe new rebrand. Ami Kozak is a comedian, musician, and content creator known for his sharp wit, musical parodies, and humorous takes on everyday life and cultural topics. Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) Ian @IanCrossland (everywhere) Elaad @ElaadEliahu (X) Serge @SergeDotCom (everywhere) Guest: Ami Kozak @amiKozak (X) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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He was the nominee. He has withdrawn from the running for AG. Pam Bondi has now been chosen. So it really does sound like behind the scenes that this was the plan all along. Some have speculated that Matt Gaetz was Trump's big ask, a shocking and outrageous pick. So that way, when Matt Gaetz is forced to say, I can't do it, they bring in Pam Bondi, who is also great, but everyone feels a little more relaxed about someone who actually has experience and isn't as shocking as Matt Gaetz, maybe. So then we'll talk about what

this means. Matt Gaetz resigned, but he is still the congressman elect for his district. So there's nothing stopping him from going back to Congress. We'll talk about that and what it means. And we get other other big news in the wee hours of the morning. It was reported by Ukraine that Russia fired an ICBM at Ukraine. If that was true, it would be the first use of an intercontinental ballistic missile in warfare. However, shortly after the West denied this and reports now say that in fact, it was an intermediate ranged ballistic missile, an IRBM. You know, it's basically what they're saying is it was modeled off of a Russian intercontinental ballistic missile, functionally the same or similar, but it didn't have nukes on it. So, you know, we'll get into

that to try and understand it. And then we're not just going to be serious tonight. We have a funny story. The View says Joe Rogan believes in dragons. I kid you not. They actually did a segment where they were like, people listen to Joe Rogan and he says dragons are real and he believes dragons have existed in times of human. They're making all of this up once again. Joe has made fun of them. So we'll talk about that, plus a bunch of other stories. We'll talk about the Jaguar ad, get woke, go broke. But of course, we sponsor ourselves too. Over at castbrew.com, you can pick up Stand Your Grounds or join the Cast Brew Coffee Club. We've got a bunch of different blends, medium, light, dark roast.

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Right. So check out that if you didn't see it, smash the like button, share the show with everyone you know. Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Ami Kozak. Thank you for having me, Tim. Good to be here. Who are you? What do you do? I am a comedian, musician, impressionist, and content creator. And more recently over the last year, I've been pretty outspoken on some political issues,

which has gotten me into some interesting debates and conversations out there online. Right on. Well, it should be fun. So glad to have you. Elad is back. Hey, everybody. What's up? My name is Elad Eliyahu. I am a journalist here at Timcast. Ami, it's great to have you. What's up, Ian?

Hey, man. I'm just looking forward to putting Milo Yiannopoulos in the crystal. Bro, I'm coming for you, Milo. I love you, homie. It's good to see you. Thank you for all the nice things. Milo was like, he said something like, I'm quite upset that Ian's not here because I like being here.

We get along. We text. We're friends offline. We both have online personas. Milo is one of the said something like, I'm quite upset that Ian's not here because I like being here. We get along. We text. We're friends offline. We both have online personas. Milo is one of the biggest hippies I know. So I'm really sad that I missed that show last night, dude. I'll be here next time. I promise you.

And also, I think dragons may have been real. I'll tell you more about it during the segment. Well, if you'd like, I can channel some into Milo for you. Asterion, you mean. Dude, I texted Milo during the show. I was like, I don't know if you actually realize how big of a deal Baldur's Gate 3 is. It's like the biggest video game maybe ever made. Yeah, it was probably the game of the year.

Game of the year. Was it? Arguably game of the decade. But was it literally game of the year? Probably. I don't know. Larian Studios had Divinity 2, best studio. And so it's like really impressive that they modeled like their iconic character off of Milo.

Like that's a big fucking deal. Well, but I also point out, too, if you watch The Boys, it's very obvious that Stormfront is Laura Loomer. Right. Like there's if you watch The Boys, I'm watching it and I'm like, it is crazy how these shows are just ripping off personalities and taking their personas. But anyway, we'll get into all that stuff. We got Phil hanging out. I am Phil Abante. How you doing? I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains. I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary. Tim?

Let's go from Fox News bad news. Matt Gates withdraws as attorney general nominee. It is clear that my confirmation was unfairly becoming a distraction to the critical work of the Trump-Vance transition, Matt Gaetz said. Well, here's the tweet he put out. He said, I had excellent meetings with senators yesterday. I appreciate their thoughtful feedback and the incredible support of so many. While the momentum was strong, it is clear that my

confirmation was unfairly becoming a distraction to the critical work of the Trump-Vance transition. There is no time to waste on a needlessly protracted Washington scuffle. Thus, I'll be withdrawing my name from consideration to serve as attorney general. Trump's DOJ must be in place and ready on day one. I remain fully committed to see that Donald J. Trump is the most successful president in history. I will be forever honored that President Trump nominated me to lead the Department of Justice, and I'm certain he will save America. Now, of course, the news is that Pam Bondi is the new Trump pick for attorney general. She's a former Florida attorney general and was part of Trump's defense during his first impeachment trial. Now, many people are speculating that this was always

the plan. Matt Gaetz was going to come out as the big ask. Then when they we can't get Matt's, I'll never get confirmed. They pull him back. Pam Bondi steps up. The argument being that if Trump come no matter who Trump chose, they'd send in the big guns. So if Trump came out first and we want Pam Bondi, they accuse her of everything. They call her a Nazi, whatever they had to do. So he goes with Met Gates. Now, if they say the same about Pam Bondi, people are going to be like, well, hold on, hold on, hold on. Like, is every single person going to be like this? And then it makes it look bad on their side. I can't imagine Matt Gaetz resigned from Congress without realizing senators were not going to confirm him. I don't I don't imagine a reality where Matt's in there being like, there will be no contest. I'm going to get in. It'll

be easy. Plus, there was a talk of recess appointments. I have to assume they had this planned. I don't know about planned, but I do think that it should have been or would have been something that they were aware was a possibility. As for for Pam Bondi, I'm not super familiar with her. But if she was has worked on Team Trump before and she's she's willing to do the same job that Gates was because that, I mean, at the end of the day, as far as I'm concerned, I want to see someone do the job,

right? It's, it would have been cool if it was Gates cause you know, he's a friend of ours and all that. But at the same time, just so long as it's someone that will go after the people that have broken the law and investigate people that are suspected of breaking the law if they if she's willing to do that it doesn't really matter

but i want someone that's a bulldog someone that's actually going to go go hard and actually use the department of justice to hopefully root out the the massive massive amounts of corruption in the United States federal government. Because it's clear that there is a huge amount of corruption. I mean, all of the investigations into Trump, every last one of them is suspect. And Matt Gaetz. What? And Matt Gaetz. Matt Gaetz, yeah, fair enough.

You know, so it's clear that the bureaucracy and the former DOJ abused their power, or at least it's highly likely, but I won't get into definitive terms, but it's highly likely, and it looks like the DOJ abused the hell out of their power and really have done a terrible disservice to the American people because your average person that pays attention to the day-to-day stuff coming out of Washington, they're all looking at the stuff

that Trump was accused of, and they're like, I'm not so sure. You know, look, they went after Trump, but they didn't go after Biden, and they decided not to prosecute Clinton, but they're going to go after Trump and they raided Mar-a-Lago and you know all of these things that the DOJ did the entire time that Biden was president and all of these things that were going on while Trump was president all the steel dossier the you know all of the the Russiaiagate stuff, all that stuff. The average person has really lost faith in this justice system. Yeah. So the five senators who I'm seeing floated that allegedly I can't find it from an official account.

It's only these parody accounts. Let's take this with a grain of salt. But the likely people would have been Susan Collins, the senator from Maine, who would have voted against Matt Gaetz, Lisa Murkowski from Alaska. They're saying Mitch McConnell and then I'm not very familiar with John Curtis from Utah. Matt Gaetz made a lot of enemies when he was in Congress when he tried to overthrow the majority leader

McCarthy. I do. When he successfully overthrew McCarthy and he made a lot of political enemies as we say Trump's name instead of McCarthy when they were casting at least at one point. And there's a lot of inside baseball going on about the timing of the resignation and all of this going down. Allegedly, Matt Gaetz originally asked McCarthy to sweep the House investigation into his. There's some complaint about against um matt gates um allegedly sleeping with a 17 year old that um he wanted mccarthy to sweep under the rug mccarthy refused

uh mackie's tried to overthrow him upset the establishment among other things they've been enemies ever since and uh this is some of the downstream effects we're seeing from there well have you familiar with like scott adams take on trump's ab testing strategy he used to talk about when he was ever since he even started running explain it in running in 2015 if you listen to scott adams who wrote like the dilbert comic strips and has been calling trump's basic like heroes arc story since the very beginning he said in 2015 when everyone thought it was a laughingstock that he would be running that he would be winning and he called trump's victory all through and he calls this the big third act but his whole thing is that Trump has always had this strategy where people think

he's just being a clown and being impulsive but it's actually very calculated in that he'll say something that will be much more provocative or make choices that are provocative and everyone will react to it and then when he walks it back to the actual position he would was going to take to begin with it seems like a reasonable compromise And if he were to come out first with the appointment he has now, people would have brought out the guns. But in doing so, it's like throwing out the A, see where people react, which is Gates, and then pulling it back and nominating her. So it's been a pattern all along that is much more calculated than I think people realize.

He's famous for the big ask. That's it, the big ask. Yep. I make deals. I make so many deals i mean if again i i don't know that that there was a plan in it um if trump was familiar with her anyways how could there not be well i think you really said i think that i think that the situation was like he probably had a backup because he because everyone does know that

matt gates is a firebrand but i don't know that it was his intent. Matt Gates coming out and being like, we couldn't get the vote, so I have to withdraw. And I'm like, that doesn't seem to make sense. Because there was also rumors, though, that the House was going to come out with the House ethics committees a couple of days before he ended up resigning. So I think that's nonsense. Of course, they leak these things no matter what. Sure. And it did actually eventually get leaked to the New York Times. The report's been leaked?

Not the full report, but they said there was a hacker who fed part of it. And now some files have already been released showing his Venmo transactions. Matt Gaetz leaving. This is a talking point from Democrats. Oh, he's leaving so they can't do it. What do you mean they can't do it? They're voting. They try to have a vote to release it anyway. And it's going to, it would

come up in the Senate hearings for confirmation either way. So I don't think that makes any sense. I think the case closes once he resigns from Congress. And they still said they were going to vote to release it. So what are they going to do? So this is generally Gates thought if there are four Republican senators that were going to vote no. Three. Three. Then there's no way he could have been confirmed because the other side would have had the majority. He wasn't getting any from Democrats.

And there's no way to re-vote or re-vote. There is a recess appointment. Well, they didn't vote at all, by the way. Right. They went and talked. He claims he went and talked to senators. Too many of them, I think it was like four, were like, we're not going to do it. And he's like, well, that's it. You can't do it. And so according to numerous reports, and I don't trust any of these people.

I think it was Politico. I'm not sure. They said that a source familiar with what happened said Trump told them, look, you don't have the votes. That's not going to work. I don't buy it, because as soon as they said Matt Gaetz, everyone said it's going to have to be a racist appointment. There's no way Donald Trump and Matt Gaetz. And I know Matt, and he's brilliant. He's a super smart guy. He saw this coming. So my only assumption is he goes back to Congress, maybe gets appointed to Senator when Rubio comes out, but they had to have seen this coming. I'm a huge fan of Matt Gaetz. I've told him this to his face. He's been on the show. Favorite member of Congress for standing up to the machine, standing up to Kevin McCarthy. You got Mike Lawler out of New York saying he risked our majority by siding with Democrats. I'm like, no, he sided with the people who are fed up with your whole corrupt Congress that cuts deals behind our back to spend trillions of dollars on garbage.

And we're proud of Matt Gaetz for having done that. That being said, my opinion is that he had a plan the whole time i will say if the doj had the goods on him i'm sure they would have wouldn't have had any problem going after him for it so there is something there with them not coming out and again it it doesn't need to reach the threshold of being illegal to have done something that is bad or wrong but does rubio appoint his successor now i think no uh desantis does oh ron desantis he could just be like gates you're the guy just like that he would never though because um desantis ran against trump in the primary and then gates backed trump hard and desantis probably took that personally maybe

but i think desantis does support the republican agenda in general and uh gates is a good choice for senator but what else could gates Gates do in the Trump administration? Aren't there other roles in the Trump administration he could get? Gates resigned now, right, during this Congress. He was elected for the next Congress. So he could take his seat back because he was elected in January. He resigned for the, I think it's the 118th Congress. And when the 119th Congress

goes in to take their seats, he can take that seat because he didn't resign saying I'll never be in Congress again. He said I'm resigning from the 118th Congress. I think in worst case there would be a special election and he'd definitely win the seat. I'm not sure.

Like I said, the point... He doesn't need a special election he's he's the congressman elect for that district that means come january 3rd he's just in was this more of a favor to trump or vice versa why go through this roundabout process from his perspective favor to trump yeah part of the plan part of the mission you know um maybe he's senator yeah you guys don't think that rubio would do that i don't know if rubio i mean i just would do that i don't i think he would i don't see who else he would appoint well i don't know if Rubio I mean I think he would I don't see who else he would appoint

The thing is that the Democrats have no credibility When it comes to any of these alleged Sexual assault cases especially when there isn't Any criminal complaints they did the same thing to Kavanaugh and I think the Republicans are I think it's an important thing Because they're going to come with Similar allegations against Trump's other

Cabinet picks like Heath Hegs just which is the next guy now republicans can just say look this is standard procedure right like republicans can actually say that hegseth kavanaugh gates i mean you can go down the list of of at least probably if i if i sat and thought about it we could come up with at least five different people that are that are republicans and they've all been accused of some kind of sexual misconduct right like that's that's donald trump you know that's that is normal and i think that because there have been no uh there's been no arrests investigations have gone nowhere you know with with a massive majority significant majority of these accusations, you can safely say, look, you know, that's just what the Democrats do.

I think that it's more likely or it's more the more important factor is what is Gates relationship with with DeSantis? You know, because if DeSantis does like him and they get along, then it might be more likely. But I don't know. But there are White House positions that you could get appointed to and you don't need to be confirmed to by the Senate. There's bad blood between them from the primary, I believe. DeSantis and Gates? Between DeSantis and Gates, yeah. Why?

Because Gates was a hardcore Trump backer and DeSantis thought he had a chance against him. But in a post-Trump victory world world a lot of stuff gets washed under the bridge look at little Marco now next to Donald Trump and every- a lion Ted little Marco we called him and now he's secretary of state I still think Trump's holding grudge against Trump is holding a grudge? Trump does not hold grudge DeSantis. Trump doesn't hold grudges

Trump famously doesn't and I think it's a problem he's saying of Micah and Joe showing up to Mar-a-Lago he he's like, well, you know, I'll give people extra chances. He says, I'll give them one, two, three, but I won't do four. Trump is so likely to not hold a grudge that even Cenk Uygur had made a tweet. You know, one of the good things about Trump is that he doesn't hold grudges.

Like, it's so... You will not speak over me. It's such a thing with Trump that, like, even people that are considered far left have to acknowledge, yeah, he doesn't hold grudges. As long as they're deferential. He's not going to hold a grudge against anyone. Do you think there's any other cabinet position that's going to be held up here? Pardon me? Do you think there's any other cabinet position that's likely to get held up here?

I think the two that are most likely going to see the most resistance is Tulsi for DNI and I think... Bobby Kennedy. Kennedy. Because they're Democrats. Pardon me? Because they're former Democrats. No, because... I think it would be difficult for Republicans to vote to confirm somebody like Tulsi Gabbard.

No, no, no. I think it's because... Kennedy is a different thing entirely because it's not a political thing. It's more about his unique kind of position. Yeah. Well, Kennedy is because of his views. Kennedy is because of his views. And Tulsi Gabbard, it's because of her outlook on the intelligence community overall.

We'll keep our eyes on those. The thing that's difficult is that the, you know, Trump, he said it on Rogan that when he first got in, he's still surrounded by insiders and establishment people. And it was very hard for him to sift through that. And now he has sort of the authority to go outside that. But you still need this confirmation process. So it's this fine line of getting confirmed by people who are establishment while bringing people in who are from the outside.

It's normal for a couple, like one or two, to not make it. Yeah. But at some point, like they do say, look, the president gets to select his cabinet and they are the people that the president prefers. It's like a customary thing. Well, the thing is, it's with the consent of the

senate but the the senate like the senate is generally considered it's like normally they're like well we may not like him but the president gets to make his cabinet full of people that he likes and it would be it would be unprecedented if they were like four people that you know if that were to happen in the senate didn't confirm anybody and then trump gets in office what happens well they have to they the positions have to be filled by who no i mean it'd be recess If that were to happen and the Senate didn't confirm anybody and then Trump gets into office, what happens? The positions have to be filled. By who? It would be recess appointments until they eventually...

During Trump's first administration, famously, many of these positions went unfilled because they were obstructing Trump every step of the way. There would be an acting AG and an acting secretary appointed by Trump for a limited amount of time or something. So Gates could be the acting AG and an acting secretary appointed by Trump appointed by Trump for a limited amount of time or something. And they don't have to be the acting age. They don't have all of the privileges of the true. This was the point. They were talking about Reese's appointments. Mike Johnson would call for an adjournment. Senate would say no. Trump would say you're hereby adjourned. And then he can Reese's appoint all of these people. But if you're let's let's jump to this next story from Lone Star Live. Trump advisor calls CBS producer effing dummy after false alarm about ambulances leaving Mar-a-Lago. This story is fascinating

because earlier today, I don't know if you guys saw the breaking news. Two ambulances were seen leaving Mar-a-Lago surrounded by Secret Service. Everybody was losing their minds. This was it. Some people on Blue Sky were actually posting, these liberals,

that Trump had passed on? Well, as it turns out, this story is absolutely hilarious. What actually happened is these are part of a normal motorcade. They were not, as we know, in use, according to reports. Journalists have formed an unofficial press pool swarming outside of Mar-a-Lago. So a press pool, for those who don't know, is a pool report is, and I may be wrong about this because I think their whole practice is stupid, but there'll be, say there's an official government event, they'll say, we're only going to have a pool reporter.

It's one person who goes in and they film or whatever, and then that is relayed to all the agencies so they can all use it, something like that. So they've created an unofficial pool where they're just hanging out outside of Mar-a-Lago waiting for news. And because they're stupid and don't fact check, when they saw ambulances leave, they reported as this big breaking story when literally nothing was happening, causing a panic and then getting roasted. Stephen Chung, advisor to Trump, dismissed concerns about ambulances, saying the CBS producer overreacted. Pray for Trump. Pray for President Trump.

Again, trending on X, 3.30 p.m. Central. This is 4.30. After a reporter tweeted a tip, he said he received from a CBS producer about several ambulances and Secret Service vehicles seen entering and leaving Trump's Mar-a-Lago residence in Florida. What really happened? J.D. Vance showed up. That's it. The press has set up a fake unofficial pool because they want to feel important about themselves.

In this case, some idiot at CBS overreacted and set off the fire alarm for no reason, thinking they were going to get the scoop of a lifetime effing dummy. So CBS is the new CNN? Oh, they're all bad, dude. It's an anti-Trump network and eventually going to get divested in the next four years if they keep acting like this. It's not so much that they're being anti-Trump. It's that they don't do anything substantial in terms of reporting. Everybody assumes these reporters must be telling the truth or should say the default libs do.

Meanwhile, the rest of us are like, I don't believe what you're saying. You got to show me a video and prove it. And so this is what happens when you take people who have no idea what's going on, put them outside. This is this is a perfect example of what would trigger a gal man amnesia effect. Even in us, even in us. Cause what do you do? Right? You look at this story and you're like, oh wow, that's crazy. Ambulances were leaving. Then it turns out, according to officials, the ambulances are normal, normal part of the motorcade. It's nothing special. It's like they're there for a variety of reasons, whatever it may be. Emergencies, maybe.

And you're like, oh, but I didn't know that. That's where Trump sleeps in the end. No one sees him. The next time the CBS reporter reports something. Taking a nap. The next time the CBS reporter reports something, we're going to say, oh, wow, look at that. See, the CBS guy is going to say, oh, I just saw a giraffe leaving the property. We're going to go, wow, a giraffe.

Instead of saying, this guy's full of it, and he's probably lying or wrong. It wasn't a giraffe, it was a zebra. I'm a little more on guard against CBS now. I know that CNN's been apt to say weird things, MSNBC, even, I don't know about Fox News lately, but CBS seems like they're more neutral, I guess. They're all owned by, I don't want to say the same people, but a lot of the same companies, I think, own these media networks.

I should check out who owns CBS. I'll do that. Well, there's been a big humbling effect on a lot of the on the legacy media outlets. So they're just kind of looking for anything they could point to to like, you know, tip the narrative somewhere else where like things are not going. Well, I mean, anything, anything. They're craving crumbs of like, oh, something wrong. Anything that's like I mean, look, if it were true, it would be a big story. Yeah.

So the guy got out over his skis and that's fairly normal with, you know, with reporters. Like if they if they see something, they're just like, oh, you know, I want to go and blah, blah, blah. Especially if it's, you know, if it's Donald Trump, if because if something Because if something had happened, the guy that breaks the news is like, look at me, I broke the news. But I mean, with X and stuff the way that it is, like if you report something and people can confirm that your reporting was right, and that's really all that happened is he reported this happened. You know, ambulances left with a bunch of secret service cars around it and then that picked up on x and

then blah blah blah now what went on in blue sky that's a whole different thing but the stuff that i that i was seeing on x was all just people reporting what he reported ambulance two ambulances and multiple cars of secret service two ambulances and multiple cars of Secret Service. Two ambulances and multiple cars of Secret Service. There's multiple accounts that were reporting that. The fact that people on Blue Sky took it and did a whole lot of the, what's it called, fan fiction stuff they do. Jumping to conclusions. Not just jumping to conclusions. They want bad things to happen.

So, you know, over at Blue Sky, they're going to be like oh man wouldn't it be great if donald trump died wouldn't it be great if this happened wouldn't it be great if he you know he broke him broke his leg or anything bad that can happen to donald trump blue sky is going to be throwing a party about so i mean like i said if you when you were on over here on x i like it was fairly accurate reporting. These, you know, it was, it was every, like I said, everything was a couple ambulances and a bunch of, a bunch of Secret Service. I didn't see Blue Sky because I don't have a Blue Sky account. And I think I might have to make one just to go and collect some lols. But, but yeah, it doesn't surprise me that the factual stuff went around.

And it also doesn't surprise me that the people like, you know. Spun it into something. Especially on Blue Sky, man. They really want him to be a bad guy. You know, they believe that he is the worst thing ever. I mean, there's even still some of the far left that are on X that are, you know, consistently saying things like, oh, look, you guys are going to regret it. There are people that are, there's a couple of specific accounts that are already saying

things like, look, you guys asked for this. You guys asked for this. You asked for this. And it's like, well, yeah, literally, we know. Like, what are you saying? What are you, they're implying that there's terrible things happening it's like the man hasn't even been inaugurated yet like this this is all like this is all just like setting up stuff and and yes everyone knows that like most people in the

country are comfortable with well that's like deporting people and stuff the funniest thing about trump winning is you get what was it joe walsh saying attorney Matt Gates. That's what you voted for when you voted for Donald Trump. Congratulations. And literally all of us were like, yes. As if it's like, I got you. Like literally we did. We actually are very happy with that choice. Um, it's a bummer to see that he won't be, but yeah, that we, we, we did vote for it.

They don't seem to understand that we like Trump. Yeah. Like we like Matt Gates. Yeah. They're, they're like, you must. We like Matt Gaetz. Yeah. They're like, you must think the same way as me. So you are you. This is what's happening now. And we're like, oh, thank heavens.

That's always good. Here's the other thing, too, about like Trump is going to use the military to deport people. When the when the when the migrants were shipped to sent to Martha's Vineyard, they called the National Guard to round them up and bring them to a dorm housing and a military base you mean a camp that's right i'm being polite but the national guard rounded up these legal asylees biden's america that's right and that's biden's america and unfortunately it'll be other republicans that block trump from accomplishing things like this we kind of i don't know if we've mentioned this before but r Rand Paul broke with Trump. And actually, I think he came out against using the military for mass deportations, calling it a huge mistake. If Rand Paul thinks that they're going to be many other senators.

I don't know about many other Rand Paul's. Remember, Rand Paul is very libertarian. And so we could start with Murkowski. We could start with Susan Collins. They're they're barely Republicans. They're they're the people that are that are. I mean, I think Collins is independent now, isn't she? I think she's still a Republican. Okay. But the argument would be that she's the only one who could win in that area as a Republican. I think it's from Maine for Collins. Sure, sure.

Rand Paul has the unique civil liberties standpoint. Yeah, that's the thing. It's like Rand Paul is going to do the libertarian stuff. But still, most of the, and I genuinely believe still, most of the and I genuinely believe this. Most of the people that are that are most of the Republicans, like they see what what happened on on, you know, on November 5th with the election. They know that Donald Trump has a mandate. And they also know that if they are pushing back against the president too much and they're up for election. I mean, senators are every six years.

So there's some time time in between it. But like they know that the Republicans want to get stuff done. There are things that need to happen. And it's good for the country. Just like I'm sure you're aware of the or maybe you're aware of the one of the rules changes that they want to do. So that way you can get amendments back in in to bills that are brought to the Senate. Right now, everything is an up or down vote on a huge bill, whatever it is. That's a bad thing.

You have to be able to put amendments into bills and change stuff around, so that way you can take stuff out as well as put stuff in. And that gives power to the Senate. These things are important. And if the Senate has that power they can actually help to do good things and donald trump is a deal maker so if he gets what he wants and the senators can put amendments in and they get what they want then you can see actual actual progress being made being made with with some some serious cutbacks in the bureaucracy.

And that's something that the Republicans have been giving lip service to for ages. And honestly, it would be a good thing for America. So I don't know that there's going to be a lot of people that are going to fight Trump just to fight him. And when it comes to, you know, specifically like using the military to help deport people and stuff, that kind of stuff is something that Rand Paul would always be like, nah, man, nah. I've got to cap it off of CBS, owned by, it merged with Viacom in 2019, then it merged, Viacom CBS merged with Paramount Pictures in 2022. And it's owned now by a company called National Amusements which is owned by a guy named sumner redstone national at some point there's going to be one media company called news yeah dude sumner

redstone's daughter shari redstone is the chairwoman of the national news corp right it's news yeah but it's not as big let's jump to this next story speaking Speaking of fake news, Joe Rogan mocks the view after co-host accused him of believing in dragons. OK, the first thing I want to do is show you the clip from these. I'm almost like, you know, if I was going to show you a bunch of clucking hands, we can put on Chicken City, but I'll give you the view instead as they disparage Joe Rogan. People want us divided and they aren't just here in this country. They're foreign foreign adversaries who are infiltrating our social media because it is prudent for us to stay that way. But when you see something that really pisses you off, you should triple check that one. Yeah, but I think that that's why people like our show, because they know that we are checked by ABC News. Yeah, I mean, if we're wrong, we have we have you know the legal note here um that is a new development

we went from walter cronkite basically to this guy joe rogan who believes in dragons i checked it he believes in dragon he believes in dragon yes i did and he also thinks that they dragons like i guess like dinosaur type type, roamed the earth when people did. So this is the type of really, really bad information that's going out there. Isn't it funny that she just said, we have legal disclaimers and we're checked by ABC News. Also, Joe Rogan believes in dragons. And so Joe Rogan changed his Twitter bio to Dragon Believer. And that's my new official ex-description, Rogan said, changing his bio to Dragon Believer. He posted the clip.

Where do they, oh, I want to know what he said about dragons. He probably didn't say anything. There's like terror. No, there's terror dragons. They probably found one of those meme clips where it's, some people will edit podcasts to make jokes, and you know, was it Joy? It was Ping Trip or something?

They believe, yeah, and they believe it, and they go, wow, he believes in dragons. Or he was talking about, like, animals. They're like, dude, these are, like, legit. It's crazy. Or he was smoking weed, and it was called, like, really? It's a strain of weed called Dragons with humans It's like oh didn't you know chickens are still considered

Dragons man and then he's just like oh yeah Totally I believe that there we go Like little dinosaurs Jamie look that up The whole tone of these shows it's amazing because they spend most of their time Post election asking themselves What's wrong with the country I don't understand what's wrong with everybody And not what's wrong with us

Oh yeah I know That's something that i've said a bunch of times like they they hate america it's like we're talking on pcc today we were talking about uh ellen degeneres and her wife are leaving and it's like well you know we we they hate america they they hate the fact that donald trump was elected by a majority of the american voting population and by you know the electoral college. It's an elitism, a disdain for those. That's why they keep saying, listen, college-educated women voted for Kamala. I mean, sort of.

That's the facts. And I'm like, well, maybe college doesn't educate you. That's true. Sort of. But it's not just, it is elitism, but there's also, like, there's people that don't feel any connection to, like, the United States. They hate this country. People that tend to be in,

in like that tend to live in, in cities. Like you can live in London or you could live in Paris or you could live in New York or you could live in LA or you could live in, you know, any number of cities in the West. And it mostly feels the same. You'll get most of the same stuff.

Like you'll get a little bit different food maybe, but otherwise it's the same thing. But if you live in the woods or in the in like outside of the major cities it's real different like if you live in the desert if you live outside of phoenix in the desert it's totally different to living in new england sure outside of the city so like that kind of stuff makes a difference and people that are cosmopolitan like that they're just like whatever it's all the same to me i live in a city and i live in the city in the u.s or london or whatever and it's like it's all the same they don't they don't have any connection to where they're from i'm doing some fact checking on rogan's beliefs on dragons rogan's dragon beliefs this is from a

episode of his podcast with adrian lapalucci if you want to look into it according to the snippets he talked about ancient cultures like the chinese japanese ancient european cultures he suggested dragons might have been real flying lizards or like flying crocodiles he said he doesn't necessarily he's not sold on the fire breathing aspect but is convinced that there were large reptilian creatures that were referred to as dragons now i'll take a step further and suggest it is possible that they had like flammable saliva and maybe it was like they clicked something in the back of their throat and could make a spark. This dragon believer.

Just wait until Joey Behar comes after you. Now you have this guy, Tim, pull. You're talking about saliva. Joe Rogan spitballing as I bet there probably were stuff like this and then to turn that into he believes that dragons... He suggested that these dragons might have been real.

Kimono dragons are real. There's literal dragons. There are giant lizards that are bad. Birds are like flying lizards. I mean, at some point, we had dinosaurs. They were considered lizards. Mika and Joe ended up making up with Donald Trump. Do you think there's any potential for The View

to also make up with Donald Trump? 100%. Trump doesn't hold grudges. Well, he's a comedian. I could totally see her going on the show. But I don't know. At this point, it's too far gone. It's a real betrayal of the comedian's understanding of things. She comes from

that world. We forget because she's been on the show so long. Joe's point is actually really, really simple. You go back 2,000 years or whatever and you've got a village of 100 people and let's just say it's, I don't know, Rome, and what's a Rome?

What's that old Latin name? I don't know, like Lucius or something? Is that Latin? Yeah, Lucius. There you go. And he's like, in Latin, I'm going to go travel to the next town over to see if they've got metal of some sort. And as he's walking, he's like, boop, boop, boop.

And he sees a big lizard. And it's huge. It's like probably a meter. And then he goes back and he's like, I swear it was as big as this. It was massive. And then some guy was like, did you hear what Lucia said? It was a lizard. It was like six feet tall. Oh, yeah.

And then some guy's like, I hear there's a six-foot-tall lizard walking around. And then someone's like, yeah. And it was spitting and screaming, spitting. Wow, yeah. Spitting fire, they say. And it didn't mean literal fire. But my point is when you hear these stories about monsters,

like the story of where the Cyclops come from, they found an elephant skull. And the nose socket or whatever looks like... Looks like one. Yeah, and they thought it was a Cyclops head. And so then they draw pictures. So you go back far enough, and someone's gonna be like, I fought a giant beast. It was

seven feet tall, or they wouldn't say feet or whatever, and it was like a black bear. The minotaur was actually just a bull. Yeah, it was a bull that stood up and trampled somebody. Did you see Richard Dawkins? A bull in a maze. Did you see the conversation between Richard Dawkins and Jordan Peterson? Do you actually believe in dragons or not? You talk about

dragons as if they're biological creatures. Do you believe in dragons? What did Jordan Peterson say? He went to the mythological. He was like, take, you know, the most terrifying things you can think of, you know? It's like, well, fire and wings and teeth that can soar through the heavens, you know, and destroy you. You've had

your own dragons in your life, you know? To Richard, but he went to the mythological. They were talking cross-purposes. And Jordan Peterson did say that you're a chimpanzee full of snakes. I wouldn't be surprised if there was glandular fire making. I do not believe that. I don't think there would be any fossil records of the glands.

So I don't know. All that stuff would decompose. Maybe stuff literally could spit flammable fluid. More disturbingly is like they're conflating the idea and they're so threatened by they're presenting it as if it's this threat that people have conversations. Okay. Talk loosely about things because, and the fact that they're like, we have to be the controlled, you know,

center of what is true and not true. We are the ones who tell you and the authority. There's this appeal in this clip that you could see this sort of elitism to. They're so threatened by the popularity of conversation. I don't want to hear anyone on The View telling me that they're going to judge Joe Rogan because he believes in dragons, because I bet at least one of them believes in astrology. Or that men can get pregnant. There you go.

But wouldn't it be funny if just like a couple thousand years ago, there's some like Chinese dude and he was like walking between towns. And then there's like, I don't know where the Komodo dragons are native to, but let's just say there's like a big lizard somewhere. Yeah. And it runs out of the bush after having just tried to eat a piece of flaming refuse because a lightning strike happened. And so it runs up and just barfs, and this ball of fire falls out. The bombardier beetle is a real animal that spits flammable liquid

called hydroquinone. It's not flammable. It's boiling. It's a toxic boiling substance. And it doesn't spit. Well, there you go. The chemicals mix in the air and undergo the exothermic heat release and chemical reaction. I was literally just looking at Bombardier beard.

It was like too easy. Boiling hot, yeah. Irritating boiling hot fluid. So if there was a flying lizard that spit this hydroquinones... What's that shrimp that can snap so hard it creates a plasma blast? Yeah, what is it? What is it? Pistol shrimp? Yeah, it snaps a plasma blast. Yeah, what is it? Pistol shrimp.

Yeah, it snaps its little claw so fast, it creates a vacuum, which creates a burst of light. It's like street fighter shrimp. Yeah, it's like a Hadouken. It's a plasma. Hadouken! Yeah, that's right. You sent us down a rabbit hole. Dangerous shrimp. But this is the nature of the

media. They don't like Joe Rogan, and they sit here telling how we tell the truth. Meanwhile, they just spit lies all day to the point where they have to have legal disclaimers when she's like we have a legal notice here the human legal notice i'm like that's not a good thing to have to have did you see their second indicative of how many lies you have they just released another one yeah another one yeah uh today i just blame her yeah another another one i don't think that it was about uh oh it's hegseth oh it's fox news they're just like hey you'll be hearing from our lawyers sunny doesn't seem to be working whatever they keep doing because judging by the way the cultural tides have turned i think well i mean it's not working they're gonna go for pete hexeth next

by the way they're only interested in getting they're after theetz. They're going to go for Pete Hex, Seth Hex, by the way. They're only interested in getting... They're after the awfuls. They're after the awful viewership, just affluent white ladies that are... It's siloing itself off more and more and more the more they double down on it. So it doesn't seem to be... But I don't think that it matters.

I don't think that... Obviously, they don't want to get sued. But beyond legal ramifications, they don't have to say anything that's true. Well, they don't want to get Alex Jones door or Fox News. So here's here's here's here's the videos is from is from today at 1 p.m. Sonny Hostin has to read another correction on air for false claims she made against Matt Gates and Pete Hexeth. Here you go. I have a legal note.

Matt Gates has long denied all allegations and has not been charged with any crime. Gates previously dismissed allegations that he paid for sex, saying that, quote, someone is trying to recategorize my generosity to ex-girlfriends as something more untoward. Another legal note, Pete Hegseth's lawyer said he paid the woman in 2023 to head off the threat of a baseless lawsuit. He has denied any wrongdoing. Just call the show Legal Note from now on. It is. I just got to point this out. We don't have to do this.

Like, we don't have to have a legal notice over the fake things that we say on this show because we don't say fake things. Yeah. In fact, if a fake thing gets said on the show, we'll actually shut the show down for the integrity of the show. or correct it in real time. But there have been instances where we've actually terminated the process because of integrity is more important than we have never shut the show down for being wrong.

Well, making baseless claims. I think I've done that once when you were like, it's over. I see what you're saying. This. OK, I'm looking a little bit more at. They're trying to avoid a lawsuit here and they're covering their basis obviously it's horrible to say wrong things about political people and not give their full comments and statements but they saw what happened to alex jones and sandy hooks they're seeing what's happening with dominion and fox news i think there's another polling company that's also suing fox news um so they don't want a multi-million dollar lawsuit from these very litigious you know i'm sure mattetz and Pete Hetzoff have some of the greatest lawyers around. So we have a correction.

Official Lucid Traveler says it's the mantis shrimp. And if a human had the arm strength relative to our size, we could launch a baseball into orbit from a standing position. It's cool. You're going to get sued by those pistol shrimp now for lying about them. So it creates a vacuum underwater. It forces the water away from each other. So there's a vacuum and then there's a burst of light from plasma or something.

It's so powerful. Now, everybody is going to think these pistol shrimp are a threat now and a threat and a danger because Tim was spreading fake news. Apparently, there are huge hawks in Australia that carry smoldering sticks and their beaks are closed. Everything in Australia wants to kill you, though. To intentionally spread brush fires. Everybody knows.

They'll carry flaming things. Everybody knows, Ian, that Australia is a high-level zone for endgame players. Maybe people mistook flying hawks with carrying flaming sticks as dragons that fly down and light brush on fire. Be careful. The United States is basically Elwynn Forest. Okay.

It's like there's boars everywhere. They can't hurt you, and everything's fine, and you're comfortable, and you can just run around, and it's very easy. That's the starting zone boars everywhere. They can't hurt you and everything's fine and you're comfortable and you can just run around and it's very easy. That's the starting zone for the Alliance in World of Warcraft. You're going to get Joy Behar tomorrow just going after you. Talking about pistol shrimp. Tim Pool thinks that there's a forest of boars where you get experience points and

well, it's called World of Warcraft. Then they're going to read a legal note. We have to say Tim Pool did not actually say. I do want to just mention as we get into the next story too, like World of Warcraft has become a hodgepodge of nonsense. And, you know, all of the, like, everything has become hodgepodge nonsense because they're trying to interconnect it. Like the Marvel Cinematic Universe, there's a funny meme where it's like

the first movie comes out and they're like, wow, a billionaire in a flying suit. And then it's like 2024 and the multiverse is collapsing. Gods are fighting on the planet. There's a giant hand reaching out from the ocean because the earth is an egg. Like none of it makes sense. The governments are collapsing. There's bombs, just nuts. And then you get games like World of Warcraft where they're like, the new expansion comes out.

And they're like, now we're underground. And I'm like, you've gone to other dimensions. You've gone to the past, the future, now underground. And I'm like, you've gone to other dimensions. You've gone to the past, the future, now underground. Like at a certain point, it's just, you're not expanding the story. You're just throwing random things into the mix. But anyway, I digress. Let's jump to this next story from ABC News. Russia launches new IRBM at Ukraine. Zelensky says Putin is terrified. Officials in Kiev initially said an ICBM had been launched towards Dnipro. Now, here's what's interesting about this. The initial reports were

that it was a MIRV, a multiple independently targeting reentry vehicle. That's an intercontinental ballistic missile. If that's true, it's the first use of an intercontinental ballistic missile in war ever. The U.S. later came out denying it, saying it was not an ICBM. It was an intermediate ranged ballistic missile. They say it's modeled off of an ICBM that Russia has, but it's not a nuclear weapon. It's an intermediate range ballistic missile strike. So it's much, much less powerful, but it may actually be very comparable. If is modeled off or off of I think it's called like the R.E.S. 26 or something like that. It would carry four warheads. So it's a smaller yield weapon, but it's a ballistic missile strike on Kiev. That could explain why Kiev thought it was

an ICBM because it looks very, very much like an ICBM. However, I'll also add the West NATO U.S. could be lying because they are scared that this would be a direct escalation. So let me put it this way. Russia keeps saying, ooh, if you do this, I'll nuke you. But then they don't. The West similarly does not want escalation outside of their control. So if Russia actually did this time launch an ICBM, the West, not wanting to enter the fray on their terms, it's Sun Tzu, would say, no, no, don't worry. It's not an ICBM.

It was a ballistic missile strike. It could be. Hold on. An IRBM is essentially the same thing as an ICBM. It's just for a different range, like it says. An IRBM is a type of ballistic missile with a range between 3,000 and 5,500 kilometers. This category falls between medium-range ballistic missiles and intercontinental ballistic missiles.

IRBMs are designed for regional targets and often used for military and strategic purposes. Payload capacity, several hundred kilograms, speed of around Mach 20, a guidance system often using inertial navigation or terrain reference systems, and the ability to carry conventional or nuclear warheads. So it's the same thing as an ICBM.

It's just that it doesn't go as far. The differential of ICBM and IR is not about payload capacity. It's not about does it have a nuke or does it not, because you can have an ICBM without a nuke on board. Right. But it's about how far can they travel. That's all this is. So the question is, have IRBMs been used in war ever?

Not that I'm aware of. The reason why they haven't or uh well the r part i don't know but i think this is significant because icbms or i think for ircbms they're supposed to be nuclear they it was conventional attacks this is the first nuclear this is so sorry uh the department of defense is saying this is the first time this weapon has been used oh no no they're saying on the battlefield in Ukraine. Come on, get specific, guys. This, both ICBMs, yeah, they're the same thing. ABC News outright says that IRBMs can carry nuclear payloads.

It's the RS-26 Rubez missile, not RES. And technically, from Southeast Asia to Australia, you could hit it with an IRBM, so it would be intercontinental. It's just a different term. I think this is a message to us, not to the Ukrainians. This is overkill. The Russians didn't need this missile to hit Ukraine. They were just showing that they had the ability to. This legit was a MIRV.

I'm telling you, the West saying it's not an ICBM calm down is to control public sentiment towards the war. If they come out right now and say this is no different, this was a MIRV, this is the first time they've used it in combat. A multiple independently targeted re-entry vehicle. it's a ballistic missile that shoots in the air and then ejects several payload that can target independent things. So depending on the power of a MIRV,

you can get one that can carry eight to 12 warheads. One rocket. It has a ridiculous amount of power. And I want to stress this. People need to understand the bombs we dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki are incredibly, incredibly weak compared to technology that was developed in the 60s. So modern nuclear weapons have around 1,250 times the explosive potential of, was it Little Boy and Fat Man? And those were gravity bombs. Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Right. Those were gravity bombs. That's a bomber flies over the target and drops it. And it whistles. Then the kinetic impact, boom. Modern weapons are rockets that drop payloads that airburst and then spread all over and just, it's nuts.

And the megatons are way, way, way, way more. And the RS-26 has a payload range of 150 kilotons to 300 kilotons, which would, if a missile of that power, just one of its warheads, unless they're multiplying by four, but assuming that each warhead is going to be in that range, between 150 and 300 would eliminate the entire metro area of Washington, D.C. I don't want to mince words. This is obviously an escalation. I will say, though, I do think Russia is treading lightly, though, because according to Reuters, at least, a U.S. official said Russia notified Washington before its strike, and while another official said the U.S. has briefed Kiev and its allies to prepare for the possible use of such a weapon, they did not want the Americans to confuse this for an attack on them. Exactly. They did not want them to. Well, the whole point was they didn't, because the U.S.

and other countries, obviously, but because the the u.s does have advanced monitoring systems a missile like this when it launches the the it took like five minutes was the actual travel time but a missile like that within one minute i read a book by i forget the woman's name um but she was talking about what happens in a nuclear war just on joe rogan a couple months ago or whatever. A nuclear war. What could happen? So I read her book. Terrifying. And it's really good. But they know about the launches within 30 seconds. They have a trajectory within the first few minutes, I think seven minutes or something like that. The Russians use the existing communication lines for nuclear launches to connect with the United States and say, hey, we're going to do this just so you know it's not a nuke.

And it's not coming to you. Yes, yes. It's hitting Ukraine. Also, it sounds like it was a warning shot from the Russians saying this could have had nukes on board, by the way. Well, yeah. It's a dry run. It's a flex of capability to just show what they're capable of doing. Well, that's all Russia has left, this kind of nuclear saber rattling. Conventionally, I think they are failing to achieve what their initial military goals were

in Ukraine. And now Putin's best weapon right now is trying to scare people into thinking that he would use nuclear weapons. Yeah, and hold off for two months until Trump's in office. I just did post a thing. I wasn't able to confirm or deny it, but that Putin's basically saying when Trump's in office, I'm open to discussing the ceasefire. Let's get this over. I don't think it's so interesting because I hope Trump will be able to come some sort of agreement between Putin and Zelensky in Ukraine. But I just don't see the interests aligning up like that. I don't think the Ukrainians want to give up any of their sovereign territory. A lot of pro-Ukrainian people still think they want to liberate Crimea, which I don't think is ever happening. While on the other side, I think it's within Putin's

geopolitical interest to continue pushing West. He didn't think he got enough of Ukraine. I think he wanted to go up until at least Kiev early on in the war. I think that was his objective. If he kept pushing, I would advocate for war against the Russians. Oh, I think he was successful. If he kept pushing, I would advocate for war against the Russians. I think he was successful. If he kept conquering West, that's crazy. If he got to Kiev, I mean, I think that was his goal. At the east of the Donbass, I understand that he wants access to the

Black Sea for portage. You think he just wants up until the Donbass, though? Yeah, I think they want to transport steel through the Black Sea into the Mediterranean. You think he'd be satisfied with the Donbass? 20-30% enhancing their GDP as a result of trade. There is a reason that NATO exists.

Ukraine is not NATO. I didn't say go to war with them. Poland is a NATO country now. It borders Ukraine. You do not need to go to war for Ukraine. You do not need to go to war with ukraine you do not need to go to war with russia like direct war with the united states and russia for ukraine if they were to attack poland then things

are different because of nato it's not you think we should go to war with russia if they were to invade poland because i think for most people you say that's a contractual agreement you'd have to they don't even know the difference. The treaty alliance would require it. Yeah, but that's on paper. That's on paper. People understand the difference between NATO and non-NATO countries. At least I think. Isn't that the crux of the issue?

Yeah, that's the whole point of me saying this. Like Ian said, go to war over Ukraine. The whole point is Russia doesn't want NATO expansion into Ukraine. The whole point is Russia doesn't want NATO expansion into Ukraine. Doesn't want the United States to go and be defending Ukraine. That's what Russia said. I agree.

And so, like, to go to war over Ukraine, that's insane. It would be about the belligerence. If he was actually trying to conquer Europe, which I don't think he is, if he showed his hands like,

look, I really do want to conquer. Then it's like, no, that's that 3.0. We're not going there. That's what I said, though. That's what I said. That's what I said when I said when I said it doesn't matter if Putin wants to conquer Europe or not. The wars that we're facing are not just some evil guy toying his mustache. Vladimir Putin sitting in his chair being like, look, we will take all of Russia now.

No, he's saying we need access to Crimea. We are not giving up a multi-billion dollar industrial port and where our Black Sea fleet is stationed. And this is where we do a lot of our trade. And we will secure a land bridge and we will secure the Sea of, what is it, the Sea of Azov? Is that what it's called? Yeah. So, and he says, we're going to have that. Then what happens is the U.S. gets involved in supplying weapons. Then we blow up their flagship. Then Russia says they're attacking us when we're trying to secure this resource. How do we stop them? We're going to have to push them beyond the borders of the regions we have to control. Then you get Belarus involved. Then all of a sudden, Lithuania, Latvia, Poland are saying Belarus is mobilizing their transporting weapons

in Belarus. So Poland starts mobilizing. Now you've got Germany calling up 800000 troops. It's not because any one side is trying to conquer. It's because there's one point where both sides bump into each other and then they keep saying, I'm going to win. No, you're not. It's a game of chicken that both people are going to crash into each other. You don't need Putin saying, I want to take over Europe to get full scale World War Three. Putin can say to China, look, if we lose access to Sevastopol and to this base, it's going to decimate our economy, and it's going to give NATO too much control. Give us weapons and troops, and we'll end this quickly. China, now they've detained a Chinese vessel in the Baltic that Denmark is accusing of severing communications cables,

which people fear may be a precursor to a larger scale attack. If China is involved and trying to grab some plausible deniability, this could escalate then with the U.S. saying, now we're going to put sanctions on China because you did this. All of it is dominoes falling over. Nobody wants war. War is a last resort.

And this is a fact. There's a lot of people who are going to say, no, the war machine, they want war. I get that. I get that. The war machine makes money by selling weapons, all these things. What I'm saying is for governments, what they want is money. For the military industrial complex, they don't necessarily want war. They want sales. And so for Russia, they're thinking, we want to increase our economy. We want to get more for our people. Putin's saying largely for himself. And how do you do that? Well, we need access here.

NATO is saying Russia's charging us too much and we need cheaper energy to Europe so that we can get cost down and expand the European economic bloc so that we can compete with China. So they claim both sides are fighting over limited resources and it's going to be dominoes falling over and it could potentially bubble up into something crazy unless, and this one's easy, Donald Trump intervenes in two months and says, we are done. It is better to accept the loss of Luhansk, Donetsk, Mariupol, and Zaporizhia. And I guess, what is that also, Kursan? If it means no World

War III, we don't care about Ukraine. Step back. Russia takes this territory. there's sanctions, there's penalties whatever it might be, but there's no reason to do a tit for tit that expands to the point where they're going to start firing more ICBMs or IRBMs Do you believe that Russia would be satisfied with just the Donbass and Crimea? Do you think there's some kind of aspirational goal

of Soviet bloc dominance that motivates Putin to have some sort of regional... I think they want defendable borders. 100%. This like greater Rus ideology. Soviet empire. 100%. Very much into that. Vladimir Putin is mad the Soviet Union collapsed. He didn't think it needed to happen and he's been trying to

rebuild it with the Russian Federal... It's the Federation Trade... Whatever it's called. Russian Federation Trade Bloc or whatever. The conflict in Ukraine, as complicated as it is, one component is that before Yanukovych was ousted, NATO and the EU were offering up deals to Yanukovych saying, hey, open up trade with Europe, do these things,

we're going to normalize your economy, it's going to be able to join the EU, the Schengen zone, all that, your citizens will come and go as they please. Vladimir Putin said, if you open up trade to Europe and you have free trade with us, that russian goods are going to flood into russia and displace our manufacturing base we can't have free imports there has to be some controls on european goods into ukraine uh so let me let me rephrase you might have misspoke he said russian goods will flow into russia i'm sorry european goods will flow through ukraine and then because

ukraine has a free trade with Russia, into Russia. Russia is basically saying, if we make a T-shirt here and they start making it cheaper over there and then it comes into Russia, we lose jobs. We can't do that. So they said to Ukraine, you're going to have to choose whether you want free trade with Europe or free trade with us. Yanukovych then says, oh, boy, we got some leverage. The West then says, yeah, and we've got the CIA. So you get bubbling up protests. I'm not saying the CIA directly orchestrated this. I'm saying they have soft

power and manipulation telling Ukraine you're going to go this route. Yanukovych tried playing both. He gets ousted, flees to Russia. They install a more West positive government that favors NATO and the EU. Vladimir Putin says, OK, now we're going to lose access to our industrial port and our Black Sea fleet staging area, which is the naval base in Sevastopol. They are not satisfied with a single bridge in the Kerch Strait. That's east, yeah. Right. And so that got bombed recently. So Russia's thinking we need stronger control and access to this region. So, of course, they're going to take these regions so they can secure Sevastopol. Many people have said, but Tim, why don't they just build in Sochi and build a naval base there? You're you're telling

Russia abandoned military technology, engineering and a base they've been using since the Soviet Union. They're just going to say, no, it's hundreds of millions of dollars and it's control and access. They're not just giving up the technology. They're not just giving up the infrastructure. They're giving up this regional control, this regional port. So then they're going to try and take this. Now it's possible Russia tries to push in for more. I doubt it. And I think the issue is that already you have Estonia and Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, they're in NATO, and Ukraine now is inching towards it, and they're saying they want to do that. Russia's basically like, okay, so on our entire border is one military alliance. As many people have said, we would not tolerate if Russia started arming Mexicans and the cartels

were fighting and stuff either. I'm not saying Russia's right. Russia's invasion was wrong. I'm just saying they may stop with taking the Donbass. And it's not just that. It's Luhansk, Donetsk, Mariupol, Kherson, Zaporizhia, and then they control Crimea already. Russia's so big, man. They have all that other stuff.

They need energy. They got all that. You ever look at the globe and be like, man, Russia's big. Yeah. You know what I mean? Some of those maps are... Just as a counter to what you just... But most of it, there's a at the globe and be like, man, Russia's big. Yeah. You know what I mean? Some of those masses. Just as a counter to what you just said.

But most of it is. There's a lot of it that's frozen, man. It's like big. No, I know. It is big. It's got more surface area than Pluto. Yeah. So I read on the internet one time.

Well, let's do this. And they have dragons. Possibly true. As I'm talking about Russia and the conflict, we have this story from Fox News. Caravan of 1,500 migrants forms in Mexico. They hope to reach the U.S. before President-elect Trump takes office in January. My proposal right now is any one of these individuals, in fact, nay, any individual from the point that Trump was formally declared the winner should get an aggravated criminal charge for entering the

United States. Yeah. Because it is apparent now by popular mandate that the that immigration is a problem that people want stopped the entire Rio Grande Valley. All the southern border counties said voting Republican major shift make this stop. These people have outright said to themselves, the American people have rejected us. We better run full speed to kick the door in before they can stop us. I say, okay, you want to play hardball? Aggravated charges, escalated charges to some degree for knowingly coming in at this point, trying to bypass the popular mandate of these people. It feels like we're at a crossroads when it comes to this immigration issue. Either we have a serious border that you legally, you cannot cross and there will be penalties for crossing,

or you do not. It's the biggest insult. It is such a spit in the face to every legal migrant that ever came to this country. For you to just cross the line and then get privileged access to what you come to New York City, you're going to get a free hotel. You're going to be well fed. Come with your entire family. We'll treat you very well. Not only that, you want to leave to another state,

even though you may have shoplifted or committed a crime in New York. We'll buy a bus ticket for you to leave the state and go to, I don't know, some random Midwestern state where you could go and assault and then murder a jogger, a young woman, a young female jogger and, you know, nobody cares. This is the case

of Lake and Riley that has been so pivotal and significant in this past election. That video they released of the mom being informed, it's worse than any horror movie you've ever seen. It's a little off. Daniel Penny also. We can talk about that maybe on the after show.

His interrogation got released. That was a different story completely. Yeah, the Lake and Riley thing. The guy got found guilty on 10 counts. He was found guilty of multiple things before this. He came here illegally. He was given all of these accommodations in New York City. He committed crimes in New York City.

He was given a bus ticket to leave New York City to I forget which state he eventually went to. Georgia? I think it was Georgia. I don't want to guess. No, I do believe it was Georgia where he was living next to a college campus where a jog in Lake and Riley was. And now the American girl's dead because of that. I think what's the ultimate deterrence force, a force on the border? You know, it's just about can the American people.

I don't want to spark a revolution inside the country because people like you can't harm them. Can the American stomach a mass deportation effort from Donald Trump? The Associated protests find out well here's the thing you have to also understand like that you can make easily common sense distinctions between criminals and violent criminals and prioritize who you're going to deport sure um and because even practically speaking there's only a certain thing you can do before you start not not not to say that crossing the border illegally is not a crime, but there is a prioritization of violent criminals and going and being able to have that conversation honestly. I think we're at a point now where you can do that. What's interesting is that during the campaign, Kamala Harris was trying to outperform Trump on her stance on immigration out of nowhere. Remember, what was interesting was back in the back in the day 2016 2020 Trump's views on immigration were seen as totally controversial

Xenophobic race when I and then the common-sense meter moved in his favor and the Democrats are trying to say we're good on it now And now that he's won but Biden still president what's happening? It's really interesting like did they just drop that as a talking what you sort of show your cards when you do in 2016 when? Trump first started talking about immigration i had no sense that immigration was a problem right like i had no like i was like really is there is there there's a problem with immigration i mean being from new england yeah you know like it wasn't something that that touched my area part of the country very you know at least very he spoke about it rather provocatively but he did he did did. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime.

The truth of the matter is he was right. And not only was he right then, the Democrats doubled down on all their policies. And I talked about this multiple times, but I'm going to talk about it again. The HHS, the Department of Health and Human Services, has a program called the Refugee Resettlement Program. You can go to their website and look it up. The last time it was updated was 2021. And this program is the program that they use to take people that come to the country and say,

I'm looking for asylum. And they put them on planes and put them on buses and they send them to places that are purple states. So they send them to, they were sending them to Ohio. That's why Springfield, Ohio got all the attention that it did. Because they were sending people using tax money, using federal dollars to relocate these people to places with the intent, with the goal of turning them from purple to blue. And that's what Elon Musk has talked about.

And people were saying, oh, that's what Elon Musk has talked about and people will people were saying oh that's not true not true and if you are interested in looking to find out about the program like I said you can go to the HHS website it's called the refugee resettlement program it is as real as the as all of us sitting around the table and this is something that they that the government is doing not just Democrats but the government is doing because the government is run by democrats essentially and and most bureaucrats are democrats it was 95 percent of dc voted for kamala harris it is so unrepresentative of the united states but it's because the democrats want to have a permanent one party control permanent one party control the United States, and the means that they're trying

to do is by changing the makeup of the states. And it's funny because they may have accidentally done the inverse. Yeah. Hopefully. Hispanics voted for Trump. Right. Maybe we don't deport him. They've created this Republican coalition.

Yeah. Well, the people here who are Hispanic and can vote don't get deported. Yeah. But the Democrats are literally making that argument. They're saying Trump's going to deport legal Latinos who live in this country. It's like, what? He's not going to deport Americans. Because they see everything through the lens of identity and not the lens of people who are just thinking ideas generated.

But here's the best part. Democrats, we were terrified. We're trying to secure a permanent majority single party rule. But they have gone so insane that now there's a debate inside the Democratic Party that they're either too woke or not economically populous enough. And both sides don't agree. Turning on each other in the law. They basically split into two parties, the far left party that says we we should be more woke. We should talk about helping people. And the more moderate side of traditional Democrats saying we need to focus on union workers. And the Republicans

are like, you know what? We already do that and we're not crazy so we're good and we just won that's why yeah i know there are illegal immigrants that some of them that are just super legitimate humans who would make great citizens have they come in the right way that are like there are too many illegal immigrants in this country i bet it's gotten to that point it's unlikely that the that illegal immigrants are people that are like extremely skilled or whatever most immigrants are people that are extremely skilled or whatever. Most of the people that are coming illegally are coming illegally because they don't have money. They don't have means to get here. They don't have connections.

If you're a really smart person that excels in your home country, you have some kind of means like the one of the people that want to come here legally that the people that come here legally are the people that are doctors and and and have have you know either a business mind or they they they own property in their in their countries and they want to they want to move from there to here but the people that come here illegally they're they're not but isn't there i sort of say tongue in cheek like it would be a funny sketch for seamus to do of a guy who came here illegally in 2015 who's like i can't take all these illegal immigrants like he's just because he's actually like not because not all of them are obviously stupid dumb idiot useless just well no isn't there no they're just average you don't want to generalize but isn't there something to be said about anyone who wants to leave the

conditions of a country that they don't like is resourceful enough to say like motivated, motivated enough to say, ambitious enough to say that they want better for their families. Is it incumbent upon us to take them in without, you know? No, I'm not making the argument. You've got to go through legal ports of entries and go through the process and respect the process. But in general, someone who's willing to uproot themselves and leave does possess more likely than not a certain drive or motivation to improve their situation. It did seem like that over the decade, you would think. But then when there's NGOs that are ushering them along and kind of making profit doing it, I wonder if they're just actually being trafficked.

It also just, immigration is a very... There's plenty of trafficking. The term immigration, immigrants, depending on where they come from, are completely different people. And it's a very complicated subject because immigrants and immigration is not a monolith it all depends on the culture that people come from the backgrounds the things that they bring with them and you you have to assess that on a case-by-case basis so to i think we're in a period now which is the good thing is that in a post-woke world people can like express opinions and not presumed to be malicious they can express like their concerns without people presuming you know we need a moratorium baby i think we need a decade-long assimilation period for

everybody i used to have a a negative view about that i'm i'm i'm more and more uh i've warmed to that view i think we also need to address it's not only mass deportations that need to happen big business is in cahoots with illegal immigrants because they are the ones who pay them. So if we went after the big businesses who were paying these illegal migrants, they wouldn't have as much incentive to come here. They wouldn't have the means to stay and remain here, and they'd have to leave. So there are multiple methods that we have to adjust this from. We won't be able to mass deport everybody.

We need to change the incentive structure around them. We've been allowing big business to frankly take advantage of these illegal migrants and that's why they come and stay here. We need to stop that incentive structure. And also if you have a welfare state, you have a problem if you have mass immigration plus a welfare state, which can drain. Even without the welfare state though, but I agree with you it makes it worse. What is it, $3,500 a month they get on a credit card of federal dollars? But in general, you do need an enforced

board for a nation's sovereignty. If you're an illegal migrant and you come to New York, you will have all accommodation provided to you, and if you want to leave, they'll also provide accommodation for you to leave. Let's jump to this story from Fox Business. Lifelong Jaguar customer troubled by baffling woke rebrand going in a very sad direction.

What I really love about this commercial, if you guys haven't seen it, is that it's, I don't know if it's so much as woke as it tries to be like futurist, post-modernist art style and just not Jaguar. So they've got a bunch of different people wearing weird clothes with weird makeup and I guess no eyebrows. Some have eyebrows. And this this image, for instance, is really funny because it says break molds. There's a you in molds, but we get it. You're British. And there's there's another tag. It said copy nothing.

And everyone's showing this image alongside the Apple 1984 ad where it's a woman wearing orange and white with a sledgehammer and blonde hair. And they're like, it's like the same thing. I think that's a man. Okay, well, perhaps. So the issue now is, oh, and they're comparing it to Bud Light. So here's the thing. I kind of feel like we should watch this video. It's a three minute and 50 second long video. And this is tough because I'm like,

I can't show you the context of Volvo's commercial because it's a it's a three minute long story. But perhaps we should just watch right now and react to it. This commercial. OK, so let me break it down. The Jaguar commercial was weird, cringe and probably produced before the election. Now they probably regret it, but they launched it anyway. Everyone is singing the praises of this Volvo video. This guy, Julián Huynh, says Volvo posted a three minute, 46 second long ad on Instagram shot by Hoyt Van Hoytema, the cinematographer of Interstellar and Oppenheimer. It goes against every single rule you can think of about think about as a social lead length format overproduced.

Every comment under the ad said it immediately put Volvo in their consideration set. It's effing fantastic. Now, it's an ad. And if I got to say it, normally I'd say, let's play some clips so you can understand it. No, no, no. I think we got to watch this in full

because the context around this is extremely important. The video is a short film. It's tremendously important culturally for what the future of this country and the countries it's advertising to, what it means. And it's a car commercial. So just watch this.

And I will say this, when I first saw it, I'm going, yeah, yeah, okay, I get where they're going. I get it. And then the ending hit and I went, holy crap. Check it out.

Hey. Hey. Okay. Holy crap. Check it out. Hey. Hey. You okay? Yeah. Cool. For those that are just listening, she pulls out a pregnancy test. Hey, love. Hey, Mom.

How are you guys? How are you doing? Yeah, yeah, we're... We're good. Something wrong? No, no, no, no, but we've, uh... We've actually got something to tell you. Kate's pregnant. Oh, Andy, you're joking. You're gonna be a grandma. Oh, my God. How does it feel?

I'm scared, Mum. Why are you scared? About it all, you know? Shh! The night's a responsibility. We're gonna need a bigger place. Can I help with all that? I know. Bless you. I'm so sweet. I've got this feeling that we're going to have a daughter just as stubborn as her mum.

Hopefully not. The family's lost. That's a legacy she might have to live with. She might be the reason we're tired or not. What if I don't do good in class? I just want to say and do the right things, you know? I want to see the world with her. I'll also be happy staying home, doing nothing, letting her be a kid.

Wake up! Are you awake? Number 32. Thank you. I want to see her fall in love. But I also know what that means. OK. What happened? And I know she's going to bend the rules, just like I did. I fall in love. But I also know what that means. And I know she's gonna bend the rules, just like I did.

And one day, I'll have to let her go. I'm excited to hear what she learns about the world, herself. What she adores. What she hates. I hope she likes the name you give her. Have you thought about it? It all depends. We like...

now. It's as sometimes the moments that never happen matter the most. And he's in a hospital. And he's with his wife. she gave birth to their daughter and then it shows the accident that didn't happen because volvo has good brakes this is so good it's really really good so uh choked up a little bit. Yeah, when I first started watching this commercial, and the reason why we had to play it in full, the context in order for us to comment on,

we can't just tell you what happens. You have to sort of experience. I know for people listening, it was much more difficult. But it starts off with, we're having a kid, and I was like, I get it, I get it, I know everybody likes it, because we saw that one other commercial where the guy and the woman are having a kid, and was like, I get it. I get it. I know everybody likes it because we saw that one other commercial where the guy and the woman are having a kid and everyone celebrated it. But they literally turned it into this A-B plot where he's talking about how happy he is to finally have a

child and how he's scared of the responsibility. And then the B plot is his wife who's pregnant, buying food, about to cross a street, and then a car is about to hit her and it's a Volvo and the brakes are so good she doesn't die and his child lives. And the reason why I think it's so powerful is you take a look at what Jaguar is doing with this weird, creepy, futuristic art garbage. You look at these companies that are telling people that families are bad or that you should be guilty for having kids. And Volvo is like, let's do a commercial that's a short film celebrating having a family and showing you that our vehicles are safe as the twist and it's like that's what commercials should be and so we should encourage more commercials like this now I want to buy a Volvo

let's show the Jaguar commercial back now now we have some reference this is what you're up against yeah let me pull up the Jaguar commercial the first thing I thought when I saw the Jaguar commercial was Grace Jones from the 80s. Yeah, exactly. Copy nothing. Yeah. Looks like Grace Jones. Copy nothing, but it's like, well, this is just androgyny from the 80s.

What are you talking about, copy nothing? You'll see it early on, and they make a statement like, it's all about joy and happiness, and everyone looks miserable. Is this the, is it 30 seconds? Is that it? Yeah, it's a short one. All right, here you go. And it's painfully bad.

It's just, it's painfully bad it's just it's painfully bad here we go exuberant that's it and everyone looks miserable live vivid delete ordinary break molds you should have done the V-up. Otherwise, people listening just hear weird music. And then it's a bunch of weird makeup people. Copy nothing. On Mars. They changed the logo.

I don't necessarily think it's fair to call it woke. You know, people are saying go woke, go broke and all that. I'm like, well, there's nothing in it that says anything about gender, ideology or race or anything like that. It's just cringe. I got choked up broke and all that. I'm like, well, there's nothing in it that says anything about gender ideology or race or anything like that. It's just cringe. I got choked up from that, too. I'm still choking. It's like I'm off the yard. It's like the end of the end?

Pink? People in the comments were like, where's the car? What does this have anything to do with cars? When I first saw it, I didn't know it was for the car commercial or for the car company. I thought Jaguar was going to be some, like, other brand thing. I thought it was going to be like an art pop. Yeah. And then they were like, no.

Like, people were like, look at the old logo. I thought it was gonna be like an art pop. Yeah. And then they're like, no, like people were like, look at the old Logan. I was like, wait, that was the car. So apparently what's happening is they want to go all electric vehicle or they say a fully realized electric fleet or something. The language alluded to the fact that there's going to do EVs. And so they decided this is the route to go.

And I should have put a car in it at least. I know driving by in the background or something. Meanwhile should have put a car in it, at least. I know. Driving by in the background or something. Meanwhile, and you know, I do kind of feel bad for him because they probably put a bunch of money into this from before the election. And then I wonder if after the election, they're sitting there going, do we still run this ad? Meanwhile, Volvo was producing theirs well before the election. And they were like, look, people want safe cars because they have children. We should.

So that's the commercial if you pull it up on twitter the comments from jaguar in response to the comments of like what is this guard they keep responding do you sell cars elon that's funny elon musk has got incredible trolling we'd love to show you join us for a cuppa in miami on second of december warmest regards Jaguar hello thanks Crusader says boycott Jaguar along with any other business that still doesn't get it they said thanks for the feedback we'll be sure to pass on to the team best wishes is this surely a joke that's at a pivotal

moment let me just jump to the replies maybe it's brilliant I saw all the vibrant colors and you're thinking oh maybe they're bringing one of these weird colors to one of the cars you know maybe they're doing something, maybe they're bringing one of these weird colors to one of the cars. You know, maybe they're doing something interesting. Maybe they're breaking the mold with like a weird, vibrant orange or yellow. Nah, they're just, I don't know, what mold are they breaking? They should have had some indication of what they're doing.

It should have been the opposite of the Volvo thing where they all get hit by a Jaguar at the end instead of the brakes. You know, look at this. Look at this. Look what they're doing with this vehicle. Like, is this really what they think they're going to be selling fine horse from the 80s but i'm telling you know what happened some some millennial women came into the marketing department and they said jag the company said look sales are down in this area what can we do to revitalize the brand and they brought in some woke millennial women with big glasses the huge oval frames and she like pushed them up and she's like, we're going to go postmodern.

Andy Warhol all the way. What would Andy Warhol do? He would tell us to copy nothing. Let's copy him. It's going to look like a TV. It's going to look like what they thought. Okay, how he says it. It's going to look like what people in 1950s thought a TV in the year 2000 would look like.

There you go. You've got to wonder if this stuff's bait nowadays. These companies know they're going to get a ton of attention. There's going to be a bunch of news stories written about it. Oh, Jaguar's new car breaks the mold. And there was anti-LGBTQ commentators say that, oh, no, they're still in the mold. We are talking about them now. Jaguar electric vehicles.

Maybe it's brilliant. Maybe it's like an anti- No, we're being psyoped. We're taking the bait. I will tell you this. The one thing they have going for them is that Democrats and liberals will do whatever the right, they'll do the opposite of whatever the right is doing. So when it came to like RFK Jr. being like, I don't think we should eat poison.

They're like, oh yeah? Now they're advocating for McDonald's as much. You guys go to the gym? No, I'm going to stay home, eat a bunch of hamburgers. I just want it to be subject to a blind study, non-placebo trial. That's exactly it. There's beef jerky here, but it's processed. I think we should subject it to a blind study, non-placebo trial. Now you've got Chris Mowry, who is doing this video.

He's being like, it's not the chemicals in the food that are making people fat. It's that you're eating garbage and not exercising. It's because I'm in a box that makes small explosions in the back that propels me forward. And it's like, okay, dude, you are so incredibly wrong on all of this. But why are you defending butylated hydroxy toluene in our food? You don't even know what that is. I don't even know what that is. All I know is I don't need to eat it.

And if you come to me and say, but the studies say it's safe. I don't care. How about I just eat, I don't know, meat and rice? Just simple things. And they're going to be like, but you know there's a say it's safe. I don't care. How about I just eat, I don't know, meat and rice. Just simple things. And they're going to be like, but you know, there's a chemical compound called this. Yes, I know. But it came from the ground and I know I can eat it. They've got Democrats and liberals defending eating weird chemicals that are lab made.

Like that New York Times fact check against RFK Jr. So what's likely going to happen is a bunch of liberals are going to be like, I'm buying a Jaguar now. Like these, who was it who said these celebrities tweeted they sold their Teslas? Yeah. And then they bought other EVs. Ellen DeGeneres? She's moving to England. Yeah.

Did you see the Shane Gillis Bud Light commercial? The what? Shane Gillis' new Bud Light commercial? Better, but I'm not a fan. What did he do? No, I'm of the commercial, what they're trying to do? Yeah. So it's like Shane Gillis sitting on a chair and he's like, I think I'm in the wrong commercial.

And they're like, aren't you? What did they say? Aren't you like this other guy? And he's like, no.'s like no i'm like oh and then there's another guy going woo and drinking beer and i was like okay yeah you know it's i gotta chuckle out of it because shane's just going like uh what's going on but there was no heavy joke i feel like i'm sorry dude look shane gillis is is super funny but they are desperately trying to rescue this dead brand. Yeah. And they think they're going to get by without actually addressing the fact that,

hey, look, I said we should own it and take their money, but it doesn't matter what I think. I'm one guy. The right has said never unless they apologize and they think they're going to get through without apologizing. It's more about what doing a commercial like that means about the culture because what they're trying to appeal to is what people actually resonate with whereas like in the woke advertising world in a lot of

situations it's not like these people really ideologically believe this stuff they're just like we think this is the the trendy resonant idea so we're going to try to do this um you know nonsensical far like post-modern approach thinking it will resonate and i think we're in a time now where it's like they're realizing it's being rejected it's funny like when you see snl trying to like go edgy more right wing and being okay with certain things and i don't buy it because it's like you you're just you know you're trying to say oh you were you were like self-critical and self-aware the whole time when you weren't so it's this pandering kind of thing but it more reflects what that they're trying to appeal to what

most common sense people feel. Volvo deserves to just make a billion dollars for doing a good ad that celebrates family and safety. They made a very basic commercial. There's no weird colors. There's no ideology. It's just literally a guy who's excited to have a kid, which is a normal human experience,

and then there's like, the brakes work and it's going to keep people safe. And you're like, that's all we care about. That's that. That's it. You've, you've sold me. So I hope, I hope we reward marketing campaigns like that. And Jaguar, I, you know, look, I want, I want Jaguar to do what Volvo did.

So I hope they do lose money and realize this is a terrible campaign. I think it's fair to say it's not woke necessarily just because it's a weird art stuff. It's just cringe yeah it reminds me of like of an 80s movie that like had an advertisement in the movie like it's something that like you would see yeah as a commercial like for in robocop 2 or something dystopian 80s exactly or like demolition man portrayal exactly like everything is just messed up. Look, it's so futuristic and crazy and blah, blah, blah. Isn't it cool?

And it's like the point of those commercials was to be... Like Fifth Element. Yeah, that's the movie I was thinking of. Ridiculous. The point of those commercials was to be ridiculous and be beyond what people would kind of consider normal. And I don't think that this makes anybody want to buy a car. I don't think that it makes... It. Hunger Games. I don't think that this makes anybody want to buy a car. I don't think that it makes...

It's Hunger Games. Yeah, I mean, that's very similar to the idea, but I don't think that makes anyone want to buy a car. I don't know who the demographic that they're after is. I thought Jaguars is for sort of dads who want a sportier car or like a fancy... I don't know. Yeah, I thought it was supposed to be like an upscale

six-figure guy who's looking for a high end car so he can be like, I got a Jag. And you're like, oh, wow, that's a great vehicle. Now it's going to be this weird, like sleek, solid pastel. It's owned by Tata Motors, an Indian multinational automotive company. So that's interesting. I'm getting David Bowie vibes from the person in the dress. I think in the dress.

The dude with the sledgehammer? Yeah. Right? With the hair and the colors. Yeah, the whole video was David Bowie. I don't know. Was David Bowie gay too or LGBT? Bisexual, I think.

I don't know. I couldn't name three of his songs. Mick Jagger had a thing, allegedly, I believe. Is that true? I don't know. I'm a Jackson guy, not a Bowie guy. I think that's what they wanted society to believe.

I'm going to do just a, before we go to Super Chats, we'll just do a quick little snippet. So, you know, we have time for a full segment. But Nick Sorter is reporting that Donald Trump is considering Mike Rogers for FBI director with Kash Patel as deputy director. The plan could please both Senate Republicans concerned about Trump's plan to disrupt the FBI and also appeasing the MAGA orbit who have been frustrated about why more of their allies have been placed in top jobs. Cash Patel. You know, right now there's this clip from Tim Kast IRL going viral with Caneco of the Great tweeted it. Elon Musk himself tweeted it. And it's Cash explaining about the two-tier system of justice and these things.

It's got like 20 million views or some ridiculous amount. And I am honored to have hosted the show where Cash came on. But Cash has proven exactly why in that segment why he needs to be the FBI director. He was literally looking me in the eyes on that clip. He was looking at me, telling me that info. That's me listening to him while we were all listening to him. He is the on-deputy bro. That's me listening to him while we were all listening to him. He is the on-deputy bro.

He's the man. Cash money. Mike Rogers has not come near the depth of conversation and context on the issue that Cash Patel has. I love that guy. Cash is so cool. And the concern, of course, because this should have been announced a long time ago. Cash Patel is clearly the guy. Trump had praised his book.

Cash has been talking about it for some time. And there's concerns about the Senate saying no. And I think that's ridiculous. I think it would be a confirmed position. That's probably why they're trying to do deputy. And then he's not confirmed. No, no, no. I think they're trying to put him as deputy because it'd be hard to have him be at the

top. But doesn't deputy have to be confirmed as well or no? Yeah. Deputy would have to be confirmed. Not as a senior position. Right. And then it deputy have to be confirmed as well or no? Yeah, deputy would have to be. But it's not a senior position. Right. And then it's going to restrict what he can do. And you're going to get Mike Rogers going to be like,

well, let's not rock the boat too much. I think Cash, look, I'm not going to be surprised if this is what happens. Okay, we got RFK Jr. and HHS. I hope he gets in because that is still a nuclear bomb on the beltway and in the industries of this country as it pertains to food, preservatives, and all that stuff. It's still great.

Tulsi has DNI. It's great. I think it's fair to say we want to win everything, but the reality would be, I suppose if we get a handful in, I'll take what I can get. You know, I still think it's a tremendous gain. What I'm saying is it should be cash. Yeah, go for cash. Make them vote.

Do it. Make the Senate do its job. If they say no, then appoint somebody else. But do cash, dude. Appoint Matt Gaetz. Like, what? Make them do their job. Go.

Make them say no. Put it on record. The reason that they don't want to go through the confirmation process if they know they're not going to get in is that it just wastes time in the Trump administration. So, you know, their first 18 months is when you actually get to do stuff because the midterms are already around the corner. So if you're not in the first three months, if you're only acting as the acting AG or what have you, you're not going to be able to really affect as much change than you'd

be able to do if you were confirmed quickly. Moreover, once you're done with confirmation, Senate could start confirming judges and get on to other business if they're stymied and stuck you know on these comfort on these you know confirmation hearings that aren't going anywhere it's just wasting congress's time yep the counter or you're you're actually right you're taking the non-purist view which is probably the right way in politics the other idea is appointing the wrong guy as a waste of time so but i think you're you're Just like he said, 18 months is all they've got. And there's a lot of stuff that they want to get done

in the first... And they can do it if they get people in place that are going to do the job. They can do significant damage to the bureaucracy. If he was to appoint a guy, Mike Rogers or whatever,

and then wasn't happy with the way he was doing it, can he remove him and then appoint somebody else? That happens in the first round all the time. If he was to appoint a guy, Mike Rogers or whatever, and then wasn't happy with the way he was doing it, can he like remove him and then appoint somebody else? That happened in the first round all the time. Yeah. Trump, all of these guys

will likely get fired within, they're not going to serve all four years in the cabinet. Nobody usually makes it all the way through. And then it would be the same process? Like they'd,

would he remove Mike Rogers? There'd be an acting? Yes. He might have someone lined up right away. And then they'd have to go to confirmation and that could take, what, a month, two weeks? Do they go right into the Senate like a week later?

It depends on what the Senate has planned on their slate, if they're going through other things. You know, God willing, Trump might get another Supreme Court appointment in this term. But Sotomayor's got diabetes or something? Yeah, Sotomayor, allegedly, there was something going on with her.

And a lot of libs were hoping that she didn't pull another RGB where she would die. I think she's only in her 70s, but she's apparently have some health issues. Apparently, I don't know for sure. I don't want her to die, but it'd be nice if she stepped down.

During Trump's. It's nice. That's nice. What about age limits? This is a whole other conversation. Age limits? Or just term limits? Well, term limits you talked about.

No, no, no. The point of not having term limits is so that way they're not political. Yeah. Right? They get appointed for life, so that way you don't have people step out and then you have political appointments. Do you think they're not political? They are to a degree.

Well, they don't need to be to the whims of the public. They don't need to worry about, oh, I need to they won't be political in deciding their cases because they don't need to worry about their political future. I'm going to be in office forever. What if it was just one long term per justice, eight years? That's what life is. I think it could be 20 years

but I guess the idea is to have it be long term and if you want to have change, go to the House of Reps. You want to keep the judiciary as far removed from from the executive and legislative as possible so the idea is they do get it is political under a problem is what what's problem is when one president appoints half of the supreme court no that's not a problem that is a big problem why because it biases the court towards the whims of the president the president picks who they want no it doesn't bias bias to the to the whims you're supposed to have the court is not supposed to have politics but no to people do i know but they're not no but to be fair if it's a republican president they're going to pick more right of

center judges yeah but then they need to get the president's elected then they need to go to the senate and they need to get confirmed in the senate as well they're going to pick textual constitutional original constitutional and that's what they're supposed to be. You're not, listen, the court is not supposed to make law from the bench. They're supposed to read the law and say, this is what the law says. That's the whole point. So all the people

that are like, oh, well, the Constitution needs to be interpreted. No, the hell it doesn't. Right, so the issue is, the Democrats go, it says a well-regulated militia. Well, as we know, regulated means government control. And then the originalists say, no, regulated back then meant well-equipped, like your guns are working and are in proper order. And they're the same throughout. It's a philosophical disagreement, right? Well, I don't think it's philosophical. I think it's evil people lying for power.

The best argument against a living document is in the Constitution itself. The fact that there is a stringent and rigorous amendment process indicates strongly that it was not intended to be interpreted. If it was intended to be interpreted, they wouldn't have put an amendment process in there at all. And the fact that it's so stringent indicates that they wanted it to be very hard. They knew that it would be interpreted, which is why the second amendment doesn't. So second amendment, easy argument. Anybody just read the original article on what they were intending and it's all written there. And the founding fathers wrote the intentions. They wanted people to own guns. That's it. There's a variety of reasons why they should. It's not just about government tyranny. It's about foreign invasion, foreign and domestic.

The idea is, OK, if a government becomes tyrannical to these ends and people are being abused, citizenry need to be able to defend themselves. Most importantly, however, if we are invaded, militia is a strong portion of our defense. The regular citizens need to be able to defend their homes and rise up if they're conscripted. Then they said, well, let's put in there then that you don't need to be conscripted to have they said, well, let's put in there then that you don't need to be conscripted to have a gun because we want everybody to have guns. So they originally did. Then they were like, whoa, whoa, wait a minute. If we include this portion that says it is not a requirement to serve in order to bear arms, people will argue that the intention of the

amendment was to make it so that people could dodge conscription. People have to be conscripted. Okay, let's take that out. Now it's vague, but they knew interpretation was likely. That was the best they came up with. All the articles from the original, I believe it was 17, were incredibly wordy. And funny enough, the salary apportionment and the size of Congress, I think were the first two. And I think the first article didn't get amended until like the 90s or something something on salaries it's kind of funny actually they were let's let's there was a show talking about constitutional interpretation there's I was watching the show last night people were talking

about whether or not the U.S. Constitution um was insinuating that it was the U.S. was a Christian nation or talked about that oh yeah it was this show yes that was a good argument and the answer is that it is. Well, we'll go deeper on that. I wanted to fact check real quick. Earlier I said the deputy director of the FBI did need Senate confirmation. I believe they don't actually need Senate confirmation. For a deputy.

For a deputy. That's why he's trying to make sure cash can get in some capacity. Wanted to get that right so we don't get sued by the government. I'll make one quick point on the discussion that we were having yesterday on the U.S. as a Christian nation to clarify, because a lot of people don't understand. The founding fathers did not intend for the United States to be a theocratic government. That's what I was watching. Right.

And what people keep saying is, is it a Christian nation? The Democrats take the most direct and single-ordered thinking imaginable by saying a Christian nation is a theocratic government where the church has say in government. No, they want a separation of church and state. Okay, guys, a Christian nation, what they meant was it was founded upon morals and teachings in the Christian faith. Jefferson may have been a deist, but his morals were largely built upon Christian faith. My take was that they understood that religions evolve and that we may in the future have a religion that is even more moral than Christianity and that the country will still function as long as there is a more religion

behind it. That's, I mean, I think they're pretty wise. So very simply put, Hinduism was a religion they knew about at the time, and it did not have a right to a jury trial or a belief in the protection of the innocent. So when they said a moral and religious country, they weren't referring to any religion. no but i think i think the difference what i was confused about watching last night was there was a like the idea that it's been uh informed by religious principles is different than milo was saying that it's being prescribed to specific groups and only those groups like it's for christians rather than the principles themselves being um animated and informed by uh and influenced by Christian principles, which is different.

And then the separation of church and state, in other words, we do not have an enforceable religion that everyone has to subscribe to. There is no formal separation of church and state. What do you mean? The separation of church and state is a written intent. It's not in any documents or anything like that. Okay. But the principle of a separation of a church and state, that we don't have an official church of the United States that people have to pay to? I'm correct if I'm wrong. I'm fairly certain they did not write down, we hereby separate church and state. Oh, I think it is written down.

I don't know. No, I could be wrong. It was a letter. Right. There's no official thing. But that principle is a healthy one because it allows for peaceful religions to exist under a bedrock of principles that are informed by christian judeo christian value right so the point that milo made which i agree with judeo sorry is that when you have a set of values that are rooted in christian moral teachings that 99.9 of the country follows and

you say these rules are for a moral and religious people they're not talking about buddhism they're not talking about hinduism they're not beefing with them, but they're saying the idea of the right to avoid self-incrimination, a speedy trial, to jury lawsuits, to the sovereignty of states. These are rooted in the Christian moral tradition. And it all stems back, obviously, because of the structure of the European government and how it came to the United States. And it was very much informed by Christianity. So my point was, while Milo may be saying it's prescribed for Christians. Which to me sounded exclusionary, which was odd.

Perhaps it's too much, but I think his point is correct that when you apply these things to people who have no moral virtue and do not abide by these, they're postmodernists of a different ideology, they weaponize them

against good moral people. I think a lot of people would have said that. We've got to go super chance. No, we don't need to get into it. Well, it's just that our founding fathers were, like these guys didn't accept Jesus Christ. A lot of people would have said that our founding fathers were. These guys didn't accept Jesus Christ. A lot of modern day Christians wouldn't. George Washington?

Thomas Jefferson? George Washington, our founding father. First president of the country. He didn't believe that Jesus Christ was a messiah. But they were deists. The distinction was they didn't believe God was intervening in governmental affairs like many other countries did when they thought the heads of state were appointed by God. They still believed in the Christian moral teachings. That's why Benjamin Franklin

expanded upon Blackstone's formulation, which is rooted in the story of Sodom and Gomorrah. Are any of our modern-day Christians calling George Washington a Christian? He didn't accept Jesus Christ. I don't think any of them. He wasn't a Christian. We're really talking about where do individual rights

and the concept of sovereign individual rights come from. A Christian God. And that's informed by Judeo-Christian God, as you could say. But it is factually correct to say it was a Christian God. They said that we have rights bestowed to us. They are unalienable by God. Why is it a Christian God? I feel like the Christians backpacked off of the Jewish God.

I think Christianity is like a Jewish God. The dad. Let's just agree it's the dad. I think it's about monotheism more than anything else. One God is what's important here. It's a monotheistic God. Let's just agree it's the dad. I think it's about monotheism more than anything else. One God is what's important here. It's because the country was 99.9% Christian. Are you a Christian if you don't accept Jesus Christ? No.

You are not. Okay, so I don't think 99.9% of the country was Christian. Literally, just look it up. It's true. We're talking a little bit about semantics here. No, but they called George Washington. The deism, this idea of like... I'm not including deists as Christian.

A small handful of founding fathers were deists does not negate that the entire country was Christian. I don't think it was 99.9. I think a lot of the... Look it up. Google it right now. And so the issue that I'm pointing out is they are saying, here's a list of rights that we believe are unalienable that God has given us. They're not talking about, you know, Krishna or something or Shiva. They're talking about the Christian God.

They believe that these, and the moral... What is a Christian God? Do the Muslims have a different God than the Christian God? No, because I think it's about monotheism here. They believe in the one God. Muslims have a different directive than Christians do. I don't think that the Founding Fathers were entertaining a religion that instructed its people to kill Jews. Do you think that the Founding Fathers were entertaining a religion that instructed its people to kill Jews.

Do you think that the Founding Fathers were like a good moral and religious person who would follow the words of the Hadith and attack Jews? That's what they were referring to? No. I don't think so either. Muslims would say that it's a different God too because they say that the Christians are, they say that they're polytheists. They say that because they believe Christ and the

Holy Spirit and God, they say the Christians believe it's a trinity. Let's go to Super Chats. Yeah, we're going to. Head over to, okay, here's what we're going to do. We're going to go nuts in the members only where we can get deeper dive into this stuff. So smash that like button, share the show with everyone you know. Right now you can go to TimCast.com.

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And you can join the movement and be friends with them, and they'll be friends with you. There's meetups. Some people got married. I don't know. I'm not trying to, you know... And they were in a Volvo commercial. Not in a Volvo commercial, but we've had, I think, more than a few people who joined the Discord ended up meeting up and getting married. So that's very cool. That's very cool.

So TimCast.com, but we'll grab your Super Chats right now. Alpha Turkey says, Mike Lawler, say goodbye to Congress. Well, put attack in that note because we can't forget. We got two years. Mike Lawler is gloating over Matt Gaetz stepping down. And Elon Musk said, anybody who's disrupted Trump's agenda, you get the primary. Can I say a tidbit on Mike Lawler? He was I think this is a sophomore now in Congress from, I believe, what was it? The 17th District of New York. He's so revered by the establishment right now because he won in the New York 17th

district against, who was this, Sean Patrick Maloney, who was like a 10-time or seven or eight-time elected congressman in this seat. He turned to a blue seat red. And this was kind of the idea of a future type of Republican in the sort of Northeast blue-purple areas that could really change the game moving forward. So I don't know if any sort of northeast blue-purple areas that could really change the game moving forward. So I don't know if any sort of MAGA candidate would be able to win in this district, is kind of what I'm getting at. Jason Dixon says, hey Tim, please shout out the Discord. Can you please point out the Discord is not a freedom of speech platform, and no one is free to jeopardize the community because they want to say stupid-ish. The Discord is a community.

The community has rules, and those rules exist because we want to preserve and sustain this community so people can meet up. The founding fathers met in bars and pubs. That's how they were able to come to these ideas and these conclusions that ultimately birthed this once this this now great nation. I was gonna say once because we're gonna make it great again. But I want to correct myself and say, it is great. It's been great. And it's gonna be greater than it's ever been before. And that was because of the meetings, the Finding Fathers had. So we've got the Discord server. For those that don't know what that is, it's a chat room. You download an app, you sign up, and you're in this chat room with live shows, pre-shows, meetups. And there's actively right now, I think, 21,000 active people who are in it.

So it's massive. And you're probably going to find friends in your local area. I think it's very important that we link up, we make friends, we stay involved, and that's how we build these cultural bonds. Let's grab some more. Is This Dom says, Bondi is a Kushner hire. She's from the AFPI, which is run by Brooks Rollins, Kushner's pal, and Linda McMahon. Makes sense. AFPI, America First Policy Institute. Wow, sounds horrendous. Yeah. All right, Mike Moe says, nuclear war is bad for kittens. Indeed it is. It is. We have Seamus 3 on the property. Maybe Ian should

capture him. Seamus-er. Well, you know, because we named the cat Seamus, you know, he's Seamus 1 and the cartoonist is Seamus 2, we just don't have names for any other cat, so another cat popped up on the property and we just call him Seamus. Oh. So now he's Seamus 3.

Oh, my gosh. Yeah, Seamus, the cartoonist, can keep number 2. I do like cats. So maybe Ian should capture number 3. That's a lot of responsibility for a guy. Eating the dogs. Eating the cats. You got to be careful. You do indeed.

All right, let's see. What's we got? Jacob Hawley says, Pam Bondi is a never-Trumper. The lady was on Fox a year ago saying the party should do anything to stop Trump. She was also the AG of Florida that pushed Epstein stuff under the rug and let a lot of the crime limitations lapse.

She's a deep neocon. She also served on his first impeachment as his defense attorney. I did read something about her being a lobbyist for Qatar in between serving in office. Is that the AG nomination? Yeah. The shoo-in for AG. Lob that the AG nomination? Yeah. The shoo-in for AG. Lobbyist for Qatar? Lobbyist for Qatar.

Early days gigs, you know? You got to take some money. That's true. I've never lobbied for Qatar, but who says I wouldn't take the money? Surge, my agent over here, maybe he could. Hey, any Qataris want to reach out to Surge?

What do you think about Qatar? Qatar is an Islamic nation. No, I think it's bad. I think it's bad that any of our politicians are taking money from Qatar. I think it's bad to be in bed with them. I think they hosted the recent FIFA World Cup. Nobody cares about any of their human rights abuses of anybody in the Middle East. It's really swept under the rug.

I want to point this out. There is a difficult contradiction for platforms like YouTube in their hate speech policies in that the Islamic faith following the Hadith, the Hadith literally says that they have to kill Jews. That's insane. I'm sorry. I'm not going to. What's the context? I'm just kidding. Do you know? Do you like you? You know, I assume it says that the world, what is it? The end will not come until the rocks cry out. There is a Jew hiding behind me. It's in the Hamas charter article seven exactly there is a jew behind them oh come and kill him how how do how do you reconcile this like oh you you can't disparage a religion when the religion calls for death and murder of another religion

i mean i got no beef with any of the individuals yeah but that in and of itself is is dangerous and and it's crazy i think qatar is a very bad actor well that's fine my point is yeah that writing that was in the hamas charter that is in the Hadith that targets a religious group for death and destruction is not good. And the contradiction is – It's not great. How is YouTube supposed to handle this, like, don't disparage a religion when the religion instructs its people to kill other people? You can't – if someone went on YouTube who was a Muslim and read that charter from Hamas, and they read that line from the Hadith,

what's YouTube's reaction? Are they going to be like, oh, it's a religion, we can't do anything about it? I don't think they give a crap. You never see any of the right-wing watch ever going after Muslims or any of their extreme rhetoric. No, they're left-wing. You mean...

Or left-wing, yeah, yeah. No, no, no, no. You meant the left-wing watch. No, no. Right-wing watch? Yeah, yeah. Right-wing watch never goes after otherwise misogynistic, transphobic... But this is my point.

These right wing watch groups and leftist groups consider Muslims left wing, despite the fact they're religious fundamentalists. Yeah. Anyway, anyway. We'll talk about this in the members' house. One more thing on Qatar, though. We need to keep our eyes on Qatar, especially with their mass media project, Al Jazeera. They have a ton of influence, and they're using it to undermine our values here in the West. I think it's just something to keep an eyes on Qatar, especially with their mass media project, Al Jazeera. They have a ton of influence, and they're using it

to undermine our values here in the West. I think it's just something to keep an eye on. They employ media. They'll hold us to double standards. AJ, let's grab some more. Our human rights violations won't mention Qatar. Let's grab some more super chats. We've got Craig Charlton says, Bondi should appoint Matt Gaetz as special counsel.

That's a good idea, and maybe that happens. With Cash potentially being deputy director, so he doesn't need to be confirmed for that. Is that what it is? Yes. Then Mike Rogers might be a figurehead. And then Cash actually gets to run the show. I mean, maybe.

I think Trump wants Cash. And I think the reason he's weighed is because he's like, they're going to launch attacks against them. attacks against them how do we do this maybe that's the play maybe they let Rogers in the seat for a year or so Trump eventually gets rid of him and it looked like oh the deputy now he's been serving for over a year it'll be a time to promote him so be acting director he's really a balance we got cash and like non remotely and flammable that guy I don't see any problem with him being elevated. I think the left paints

him as a guy who would go after a retribution type character is how he's viewed on the left. Alright, let's go. Saravia says DJT can draft invaders for war in Ukraine, asserting jurisdiction over them. Invaders will self-deport. Donald J. Trump will get sued. SCOTUS will rule

invaders and their children are not under U.S. jurisdiction. Mega mega is he speaking about illegals that is rob yeah illegal so i mean democrats want that democrats have been saying we should conscript uh undocumented migrants to grant as a path to citizenship in the fall too many empires man yep through military service rome yeah we had a way to grow your empire but once your empire is established it's kind of like Too many empires, man. Oh, yup. Through military service. The story of Rome. Yeah. We had a great- It's a way to grow your empire, but once your empire is established, it's kind of like asserting your downfall, bringing in foreigners and then elevating them to position of citizenship without assimilation through generations.

All right. Death Magnet says, on the topic of college educated, just because you're educated doesn't mean you're intelligent. There's a viral clip going around where this woman is like uh she was saying something like all of the liberal areas are from people who have college degrees yeah and she's like uh did it ever occur to them it's because people with degrees are smarter and so that's why they're voting that way or whatever and it's like dude listen i gotta tell you if you took out 40 to 80 000 in loans uh to get a degree that's not going to get you a job and you

can't pay them back and 25 years later you're still in debt i'm not going to call you intelligent or educated i'm going to say you were uh a rube a rube they are very low interest loans though they're like three percent interest so if you need 20 grand and you're in college it's way better 20 grand that's my my point is it's a very stupid thing to do. How are they low interest loans and at the same time people are saying that they'll pay back their entire principal and still owe more? It's because they're paying the minimums. Are they really only like 3%? I believe, yeah.

They're dirt cheap loans. But dirt cheap. The problem is you take out, let's say $50,000 in loans. You get out. You can't find a job. You go work at Starbucks. You're like, well, I've got to defer my loans again. And it keeps racking up and racking up.

That's why these people, look, if you can't afford to go to college, you shouldn't. Intelligence is different than wisdom. That's right. So I'll tell you what I did. Hey, let's talk about this. When I was 14, I stopped going to conventional high school and started getting homeschooled. I completed the entire high school course. We were doing two weeks of high school courses in one day.

And it was a waste of my time. I completed all of my credits, submitted them. And then they said, if you would like to get your diploma and formally graduate high school, I said, they said, submit a letter writing it out for your, you know, your final. I said, nah, not interested. And my dad got mad at me for not doing it. But I was like, what do I need? This is stupid. And then I went to a community college because you don't need a high school diploma to do it. And then I had some college on all of my applications. And I did, I had like a, like two credits or something.

And what happened was when I turned 18, I started looking at the math and I said, okay, how much is going to cost me to go to college? What do I need? And my dad was like, you definitely got to go to college. My mom said, you got to go to college. And then I said, wow, if I go get a job right now, I ended up reading this article from an economist who worked in the Bush administration who said, if you go to any investor and say, make an investment over four years and when you leave, you will owe me $40,000 with, you know, three or 4% interest. They would laugh in your face since it's the stupidest thing I ever heard. So what you should do is at 18 is get any job you can and work there for two to four years and save up as much money as you can. And then consider if you want to advance. But the reality

is if you do a job at McDonald's at 18 and worked for four years, four years later on average, I can't remember the math at the time, but it was like, and this is 20 something years ago, 20 years ago, actually. And it was like, you'd be making $24,000, $25,000 a year. You are leaving after at 22, you are going to have, you know, $20,000 in savings at this rate. You are going to be an assistant manager making $2 more with an opportunity for moving up in other companies. You could reapply somewhere else, get training in advance. If you leave college at 22, you're 40K in debt with no work history, no experience. You're only going to be able to get an entry-level job somewhere, most likely. If you can, your salary prospects will likely be lower and it'll take you an average

of 10 years to climb out of that debt, where the person who worked at McDonald's is going to be net worth positive the moment they take the job. On average, and this was a few years ago we talked about on the show, the average net worth of a 30-year-old in this country is $1,000. It is the first time in the life of a millennial that they actually had a positive net worth. So these women who are like, this lady's like, I'm going to go to college because I'm smart. And you got these stats where it's like men aren't graduating college and women are

because men are doing the math. You know what looks really promising is the Peterson Academy. The Jordan Peterson. Ha! Well, you know, yes. Sign up? Super cheap. That's what I would say. Michael Malice. Step into the abyss. There he is. Malice did a course on the history of communism, I think, just recently.

That's super cheap. So what is Peterson Academy? It's like a school. I wish I could sell it. I don't know. It's cheaper version. It's an online school, basically. It's not accredited, but it gives you everything you need to get a college education.

And it's cheap. And it's through legitimate people like Jordan Peterson, Michael Malice. Or were you going to say something, too, Phil, about it? Michael Malice is on the Soviet Union. On the Soviet Union. It's probably like Masterclass, but in the world of various subjects. Look, if you've ever seen the Tom Morello Masterclass, Jordan Peterson

is not selling anything like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, the idea is like an online university that actually teaches you how to think and not what to think. It gives you stuff you won't get at the neo-Marxistist postmodernist universities, you know, but does he believe in dragons?

Oh, I hope so. Of course. But mythologically, especially those that challenge your mythological truth is just as valuable to the West. I, I met Jordan a few weeks ago and we talked about having him coming on the

show. He did briefly join us when we were on election night, but he's, I said, we do Tim cast IRL or the culture war. IRL is topical news stories. Culture War is long, free-form discussion. He goes, the culture war seems like it's the good idea.

And I've been in it, you know, so it's not simple. It's not, you know. But he was basically saying, like, he and I having a philosophical conversation on how we see the world. And then, you know, I think he could teach me a lot of things and throw a lot of things at me, which would really interesting and i was like that sounds like a really great psychoanalyzed by yeah we gotta have ian there for sure because i think jordan peterson might get flustered and confused and ian might win i'll let i'll calm him down yeah yeah well i don't mean

i'm not saying win as in like ian will come up with a more cohesive sense of reality it's that jordan peterson will not understand how to navigate the ideas Ian's throwing at him. Ian will break Jordan Peterson. He had such a good time on election night. Ian, you broke Dr. Peterson. What's going on? I asked him about his story. I'm glitching, you know? Ian, I don't know how to answer that. He's really one of my favorite people on Earth. He's such an amazing,

inspirational dude. I'll tell you the amazing thing. He's done well for me, too. There are a lot of people that I've met who I don't know if they're politics, and it's like some people I know. And then they say they're huge fans of Jordan Peterson, and I'm like, oh, okay. You know, we're cool. They listen to the guy, they understand what he's trying to say,

and the left has been trying to smear the guy relentlessly. And he wears banging suits. Yeah, when I met him, he had the dual colors. Oh, yeah. You know, they're made for me, half red. You know, it's for the fine line between order and chaos. When I saw him live in Miami, by the way the first the thing i noticed the most was the lines out the door and every kind of person you can imagine going to see jordan peterson as much as you buy into this narrative that it's you know you know lonely incel white man you know it's actually everybody all ages it's like the

most diverse crowd i've ever seen it It's absolutely wild how powerful that voice is and how clarifying it is for so many people. It's deeply impressive. Let's read this. We've got Mary Evans says, Cash FBI, Bongino Secret Service, Brandon Herrera, ATF director, Ken Paxton, AG,

great attention to the Trump Justice League. Well, likely not Ken Paxton, but that would be a good idea. I do not see a reality where Dan Bongino takes Secret Service director. I do not see a reality where Dan Bongino takes secret service director. I've heard rumors already. Dan Bongino has the biggest live show in, I think he has the biggest live show, period. He got half a million live viewers during the election.

Half a million. He regularly does like 170,000 concurrent viewers on his show. I don't know that. And so you can only estimate the amount of money he's making. I mean, IRL, we do. We had, you know, 56, 57,000 tonight. We've had we've been averaging around 60 or so. And people have a general idea of what we do.

Bongino is doing triple that. I don't know how he gives that up for a, you know, 300, 400 thousand dollar a year. Not even that. It's by 280,000, $400,000 a year. Not even that. It's probably a 280,000-year government job. He has a bigger political impact in media using the bully pulpit than he would have as a Secret Service guy. But I could see him advising Secret Service for sure. Sure.

I think I could see him advising something higher up the chain. Secret Service is important too, though. He obviously served as a Secret Service. George Washington was a Christian. Eric. But he didn't believe in... Callback. The... What is it of Jesus. But he didn't believe in... Callback.

The... What is it of Jesus Christ? The divinity? The divinity of Jesus Christ. He wouldn't be a Christian. So it's like, maybe Matt Walsh could do what is a Christian next.

Oh, that's a good idea. What is a Christian? What is a Christian? I didn't want to say what is a Jew, but... If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to the channel,

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You can follow me on X and Instagram at TimCast. Amit, do you want to shout anything out? It was great to be here. Great talking to everybody. Love the conversation. And yeah, if anybody wants to find me i'm on twitter at amicozak on instagram at aj dash comedy and youtube at aj dash comedy as well and uh yeah you got a comedy special out comedy special now lots of i perform stand-up all over

new york city and you know stuff coming out i'd love to see one of your comedies thank you so hot yeah yeah um maybe i'll do like a Peterson tour or Alex Jones tour or RFK Jr. A variety show with everybody coming out. Come to my show. It's going to be amazing.

We're going to turn the frogs gay. When's your next show? Live show. Keep following me. Follow on my social media. I post dates there regularly. So that's the best way to do it.

I've got a podcast called Ami's House, a band called Distant Cousins. You can check all that stuff out. Absolutely. Ami, it's been very fun talking to you guys. Oh, thank you. Trump supporters, do not despair, although Gates did have to withdraw.

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