Timcast IRL - Matt Kibbe Uncensored: DeSantis BANS Lab Grown Meat In Weird Move

Episode Date: May 5, 2024

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Welcome to our special weekend show, Sunday Uncensored. Every week we produce four uncensored episodes of the TimCast IRL podcast exclusively at TimCast.com and we're going to bring you the most important for our weekend show. If you want to check out more segments just like this, become a member at TimCast.com. Now enjoy the show. So DeSantis banned lab-grown meat, which is kind of weird. Now, enjoy the show. the fuck does this water come from it's just literally there underneath us for no reason and i'm like wow there's just water right there underground uh it is kind of wild when i think about i'm like so there's just water underground like i was into larry county during the drought which is a story i tell 50 billion times but when i saw the farmers drilling i was like you mean

there's just water there and they're like there's water there and i'm like just fresh water underground for like you're mining water and like yeah and was like, and then you grow crops with it. And like, yeah. And I'm like, it's kind of weird. It's kind of wild that you just like humans can just live in a place because you dig a hole and there's water. How about that? I'm not saying it's literally proof of God.

It's just, it's like, how, how, how amazing for us. I always love it because it makes me think science is crazy, man. Like the physics of having to like run the water system and the sewage system. It's crazy. Also, somebody has to make this their profession. Otherwise, we all fall apart. That's also crazy. DeSantis signs bill banning lab-grown meat.

Why? So we were talking about this earlier. I do think that it's because it's a signal to the big meatpacking industry. I think it's for future presidential runs and to show that he is favorable to agriculture, big business. Okay, this is not based. It is cringe. It is very cringe. He said, Today, Florida is fighting back against the global elite's plan to force the world to eat meat grown in a petri dish or bugs to achieve their authoritarian goals.

Bugs are actual meat, though. Like, bugs are natural protein. I agree. You shouldn't have to eat the bugs if you don't want to. Okay, he says, Our administration will continue to focus on investing in our local farmers and ranchers and we will save our beef. SB1084 makes it unlawful for people to manufacture for sale, sell, hold or offer for sale or distribute lab grown meat in Florida. He said we must protect our incredible farmers and the integrity of American

agriculture. I'm not a fan. I'm a more free market kind of guy. And I think people should be allowed to buy lab grown meat if they want. I'm at the point like I of guy. And I think people should be allowed to buy lab-grown meat if they want. I'm at the point, like I had sworn on a stack of bugs that I would not eat lab-grown meat. No bugs. Because I knew that the World Economic Forum was going to force me to do this. But now that it's banned, I want to go to Florida and eat fake meat. I will eat the bugs so long as they're underwater first. If they originate under the water, then they're delicious.

Like shrimp? Like a lobster. Lobster, shrimp, escargot, all of the water bugs I'm a fan of. Well, not all of them, but they have this in Asia, they eat this gigantic nasty, it looks like a roly-poly, I guess. This disgusting, what are those things fucking called?

There's a viral video going around where it's like they have this what is it you're you're you're my isopod i don't know it has a weird name and it was it was called like a oh cockroach of the sea is that what they call it sea roach gross is that what it's called ew let me see if i can uh find the video yeah yeah here yeah, here we go. Here we go. Yeah, here's a guy. Japanese chef cooks giant sea cockroach. See, that is a giant bug. But apparently the meat is just like lobster meat.

Yeah. And so they crack it open and you've got the... That kind of looks delicious to me. See, I... Right? Because it's cut from the water. Right. Then I'm fine with it. I get the rule.

I'm allergic to shellfish. So all of the sea bug argument seems irrelevant to to me uh i i i was telling phil this before the show i think that desantis is lining up for a bid for 2028 that's why the language of this isn't like talking he's not really talking about genetic modification he's talking about world you know global is going to make you do this he's almost basically saying they're going to make you eat the bugs. Like it is much more about the messaging than it is about, you know, anything else. I could be totally wrong here. I don't think of Florida as a particularly agricultural or at least cattle heavy state. I know they have other produce that they grow. And but for me, you know, the debate over whether government should regulate all kinds of things is totally valid

generally i think lab-grown food products are something we should be incredibly wary of and so i can understand i sympathize with the people that desantis is trying to appeal to sort of the the conservative people who are also like well i don't trust big pharma and i don't trust big industries that control whatever. Like the same kind of conservatives who are really into their farmer's market. This is the bill for them. Serge is right. It's called the giant isopod. And they refer to it as a sea cockroach.

And that's what it looks like. And they love it. It's like I was trying to find a video or something. There could be a video because when you crack it open, maybe maybe this video has got it. When when you crack it open, it this video's got it when uh when you crack it open it just looks like crab meat it's like it you wouldn't even notice well again here you go look at it oh that's weird what is that is that the same thing yeah that's not the same thing where's the sea cockroach meat i want to see the sea cockroach meat the isopod meat is it Who is the bro? More best food ever review show.

See, I can't stand these videos because it's like, dude, I want to see you eat the giant roach. But he doesn't actually do it. Here you go. Wait, those are just shrimp. This video is dumb. All right. Here we...

Is this the video I just played? It is. It's so stupid. The Santas is now going to mandate the consumption of sea cockroaches. There we go. Look at that. They put peanuts in it. Eating Vietnam's cockroach of the sea.

It's bigger than my head. Now look at that. It just looks like crab meat. I will eat the bugs so long as they're underwater. Look at that. This looks like crab. Lobster. I bet it tastes delicious.

You won't be able to tell the difference. If you gave someone a big chunk of that white meat, you'd be like, it's lobster. They'd say, oh, wow, thank you.

Yeah. You say sea cockroach and they're going to say, how dare you? Somebody's got to really get on the PR of this thing. I think for the West to commit to sea cockroaches

is not a good thing. If they discover these off the coast of Florida, DeSantis will mandate that you have to eat sea cockroaches. Well, if they're from the coast, that means they weren't generated in a lab. Like then I don't think he would care. This is kind of a, it's a Republican governor thing. They do it on speech. They do it to

virtue signal, but you know, the correct market response to synthetic meat is to deregulate and, and create a very competitive market for real beef. Yeah. Instead of saying, we're not going to eat that stuff. We're going to pass it. But he may be in bed with the beef industrial complex. Or he would like to be, at least. The correct market response is to ignore, as per this photo.

Even in a disaster, no one wants the vegan food. This is a photo from, I can't remember when this was. I think it was a hurricane in Florida. And someone noted the vegan food. This is a photo from, I can't remember when this was, I think it was a hurricane in Florida, and someone noted the vegan section was untouched. Everything was stripped bare, and everyone's like, not that. That's not food. Have you ever looked at the salt content of vegan food? You

may as well just shovel salt by the spoon into your mouth. It's fucking disgusting. It's worse than, look, did you ever look at a McDonald's wrapper and look at the sodium content on a cheeseburger? Holy fuck. It must be the shittiest food imaginable to need that much salt.

I think one double cheeseburger at McDonald's has like 60-something percent of your daily sodium intake or some ridiculous amount. You eat two burgers in one sitting and you're over your salt. Look at vegan food. Their sodium is fucked. These people are going to die of high blood pressure and it's typically full of things that

you think vegans would be against like preservatives and like dyes and all this stuff because they have to manufacture it and then ship it to the vegans i mean i remember when veganism you know for a minute there was like a health craze the way that's sort of going gluten-free for some people they're like oh it's like being on a diet like that's not actually what any of this is and it doesn't mean because you're you know you have a new fancy term for it you're actually eating healthy i mean oreos are vegan but that doesn't mean that if you live on oreos you're getting a nutritionally balanced diet you're eating cardboard uh so 40 a mcdouble has 40 of your daily sodium. This is the McDouble. It's tiny as fuck. It's 400.

Look at this. 400 calories, 22 protein, 33 carbs, 20 fat. And the protein's not so bad. But 40% of your salt intake? It's ridiculous. Okay, let me just break it down for you guys. What is it, Phil, you're supposed to have, like, a gram of protein per pound? If you're looking to maintain your body weight, you should have one gram of protein per pound or if you're looking to maintain your body weight you should

have one gram protein per pound of body weight if you want to maintain lean body mass so okay so there's 22 grams of protein i weigh 180 pounds i would have to eat nine nine of these burgers is that is that right am i getting the math And then you just like fall over from all the salt? And that's just about, it's 360% of my daily sodium intake. Look, McDonald's never claimed to be a health food. They're just here so you have a good time, like something good to eat.

Well, it's not even good. It's just that it's reliable and the same. Yeah. It's reliable in the same. You can go anywhere and get it. That's one of the like, to be honest with you, when we're on tour and we're in Europe and stuff, if you go a couple of days with like, you know, haven't been in a regular city or whatever, even, you know, whatever. Doing festivals, you'll end up in the woods a lot. Yeah.

You're like out of regular zoning you really appreciate when you get to that mcdonald's because it's you know what it's going to be and it's going to be good and it's going to be the same and even even if it's not you know not your favorite thing but whatever apparently like all the vegan food companies are actually like crumbling yeah i mean uh was it beyond me had a really hard time one of the CEOs, I think, of one of, like Impossible, I can't remember, got into like a fight at a parking lot at a football game. I'll have to pull that story in a second.

Like it's not a booming industry because the food products are good. I think it's because of the trend. And when the trend shifts, it'll change. Would you rather, Matt, would you rather eat a McDonald's cheeseburger or a bug or a lab-generated meat burger? I love McDonald's.

Quarterpiner with cheese. What's the difference? It's one of my favorite meals. I don't claim to know, but sometimes they say... No, that's the meme. It's that corporate wants you to tell us the difference between these pictures. A McDonald's burger and a lab-grown meat, the same thing. Well, which one of them will put on like a hundred percent pure whatever unlike you know how taco bell there are certain things that they can't call like they have to call it like a beefy burrito

because it's like not technically anything i love this at subway i don't know if they still do this but when i was uh younger i went to a subway with my friend and there was i noticed a little asterisk at the bottom right of the of the the far side of the menu. And it says all meats, Turkey based. And I was like, what? All of their meat is Turkey based for some of their sandwiches. When you think you're eating like ham or whatever, it's like Turk Turk. Like they take Turkey and they make it to be like ham or something.

Why did they take tofu and turn it into a hamburger or turn it into a Turkey? Why don't they say this is tofu this is not like a fake animal because they want to eat meat yeah they're craving it yeah vegans are crying and desperately begging for the meat they need it they need the meat and so uh you know they have to pretend like they're eating meat because humans are made to eat meat can a vegan eat synthetic meat well that's effectively what they do with like the Beyond Burger, right? It's simulated meat.

The big question that I've always wondered because this is not the family friendly portion of the show is, do vegans swallow? That's eating meat. Let's get one on for Culture War and see what happens. Phil, that's a double entendre eating meat. The eating meat comes first, followed by the eating of meat.

I don't know what any of you are talking about. This is degenerate male conversation. I'm going to leave immediately. It is, actually. That's true. I'm going to tweet this out right now. Are you going to tweet, do vegans swallow? It's research.

We have to know. It's a joke that's been around for a real long time. I can't remember which comedian came up with it. But they were like, honest question, like, do vegans swallow? And like, does anybody know a vegan? We'll ask them. Because I think, like, no. Look, until we bring a vegan on the show and they tell us,

and this could be some of the vegans' debate, right? Maybe some of them have different boundaries. Yeah, the show is not for your kids. Are there a lot of straight vegans? Vegan women? I mean... Like I said, I was vegan for a minute. It was trendy.

There could be gay vegan guys. Yeah, I guess. Well, I mean, yeah. I did love this. We had the culture war with Nat and Kat from The Shallow End. We were talking about repealing the 19th. And Kat was like, what, male vegans can vote but I can't? Fuck that.

And I was like, good point. Taylor's a vegan. I got no beef with vegans. You can eat whatever the fuck you want. I mean, I think all of it is like, are you actually getting what your body needs to survive, right? You can't be like, I'm a vegan, so therefore I don't need protein. And what happens

I think a lot is that vegans who have a moral issue, you know, they don't want you to hurt animals, they don't want you. And, and what happens, I think a lot is that vegans who have a moral issue, you know, they don't want you to hurt animals. They don't want to do whatever. They, they ultimately end up with all kinds of health issues because they're deficient in iron, because their body's not absorbing stuff. If you're principled and you have a way you want to live and you can do that in a healthy and safe way, I don't, I don't mind it. I think what the problem is, is that we have like marketed to be like, Oh, if you're vegan, if you're keto, if you're paleo, like this makes you better and therefore healthier,

what actually you're probably not healthy. Vegetarian. Cause I'm just a vegetarian. I think you can definitely do vegetarian cause a lot, I would probably say like 40 to 50 per no, maybe of my protein per day is whey and and casein dairy based and uh then i get chicken um allison does a good job of mixing it up so i had venison and uh lamb the other day four ounces of each that's a decent amount and uh do steaks on the weekend i'm gonna have a nice thick filet mignon this uh saturday and just get a big fatty steak. You know, just eat beef. Be proud of it.

And I had a steak the other day. Tried to get a lot of meat. I don't know how I would get my protein if I did not eat meat. I gotta be completely honest. I would have to drink like four or five protein shakes per day and it's brutal. The calcium is just,

there's too much in it. It's all calcium. I eat a lot of steaks. I bought an expensive pan just for cooking steak steak pan yeah you just do a cast iron and never wash it i have i have cast iron at home in new england i got a couple of them but uh i got an all clad for my uh place down here there's a funny meme where it's like a guy said my girlfriend was really upset with me so i thought i would do something nice for her to cheer her up, and I chose the cast iron in the dishwasher.

As an aside, we had cleaners, and they put our cast iron in the dishwasher, and it was the end of their contract with us. You can bring them back. It's not the end of the world. No, the pan's ruined completely. Totally ruined? Yeah, it's rusted. You can still re-season it. Yeah.

You don't think so? Allison tried, and then it it started rusting again and she's just like i'm done she's like it's fucked are you a steak guy do you get a lot of steak we eat almost exclusive yeah i'm a carnitarian i i only eat meat i'm sort of pissed like we were talking about grocery prices earlier have you seen the i'm pretty sure that if you go to costco to buy a whole side of beef which we do all the time that it's pretty much doubled in cost oh yeah since 2020 so the one thing i'm compromising and eating more hamburgers along from mcdonald's well shout out to mcdonald's like uh if you really want the salt they deliver yeah for sure yeah how about we go to colors all right let's do it uh i'd like to talk to ceo of fat girls first up

what's going on hey guys awesome awesome to talk to you hey likewise man awesome name good question so i'm in portland right now i'm visiting i'm doing a shithole tour and i like it you know these kids you know i'm with phil here i definitely see them as communists and the hammer should come down to them aggressively but some of these people are also larpers right they're trying to fit in etc is there any is there any validity in creating some type of campaign to basically make it uncool? Example, stickers or hoodies, whatever, communism, ideology for ugly people, et cetera, stuff like that, blah, blah, blah. Is that shit even effective, worth my time? Yes, but it's not fast, and so it's not, like, going to be – it's not going to give you, like, satisfaction, right?

Like, it'll work over time, but you're not going to be, like – you're not going to get that – what's the word I'm looking for? That instant gratification? Yeah. Yeah. I think it's mixed. Like, I think it's worth doing if you think it's something you'd be interested in and would enjoy creating these kinds of slogans. But remember, Turning Point had socialism sucks is their thing. It would be everywhere.

And you do capture a certain type of personality. But I think also, alternatively, just do something else. And when people are like, yeah, we're going to go do this thing, be like, that's kind of lame. I'm going to go to an All That Remains show and make some steak. If you just start treating it like it's not even like you're angry about just like it's kind of stupid nerdy people will stop wanting to do it well here's one for you guys want to hear a joke yeah what's the hardest thing about being in antifa telling your parents you're gay

look to your point to her to hannah cller's point um like what what i personally do like there's stuff in all that remains that's you know a little bit political and stuff and and i mean some stuff is is actually fairly political but it's not super preachy and you never hear me talking from all the room from the stage of all that remains talking about politics and stuff like that so like one of the reasons why like i'm happy like really really happy to be a part of the crew here is because i really believe in like what tim says like create culture and that that's what all that remains does and i've always been me and i've always been kind of the same kind of libertarian kind of dude um and it's

been part of you know what all that remains is. But it's just a little part because I don't want to scare off people that aren't political. And that's the way to do it. Allow your politics to be part of your message, but don't make it the only thing about you. Because then people don't feel – if you're always political, people don't feel like they can relate to you. If every once in a while you'll say something a little political, they might be like, oh, I don't really agree with that. But it's not the only thing that they might be able can relate to you if every once in a while you'll say something a little political they might be like oh i don't really agree with that but it's not the only thing that they might be able to relate to you about and if they if you do agree then they're like oh yeah i agree with that and you might be able to open someone's mind a little bit yeah and if the hypothesis is like this is the cool thing that the young people are doing have something

else and they'll go there right like if there's nothing else going on they're like well i want to look like i'm cool and hip and so that we go to this burn cars in portland rally like then that's what they're going to do whereas if you're like we have like a music festival and we've got this other thing it doesn't have to be overtly political it just has to be an alternative and then you just look down on the other thing i just want to add for everybody the the original joke in the 90s was what's the hardest part about rollerblading? Telling your parents you're gay. And so just to clarify,

what I said about Antifa actually wasn't a joke. It's actually true. I would think that the parents of people who... Tell your parents you're a gay communist. Yeah, well, but I would think that the parents who raised Antifa members would be like, thank goodness, I'm so glad. You ever see those videos where it's like... That's what I'm saying, it's not a joke.

The Antifa people literally are gay and struggle to tell their parents. Yeah, I feel like their parents are like, please be gay Special but I please be special Phil's point about like music like I became a libertarian reading the liner notes on a Rush album when I was 13 And you talked to so many libertarians that have some sort of story about Neil Peart turning them on to The ideas of Ayn Rand. So I think, I think if it's good music, um, and it's based on some sort of philosophy, that's great. But I think,

I think culture is better than telling people to read the books I read because that's, that's a non-starter. Um, that's why we're doing so much comedy right now, because you can say things when you're doing a comedy skit that, that we can't say here that would in any way attract people who think they're socialists right yeah they just think we're making fun of them i i became uh when i was a teenager i became a anarchist because of uh lover boy when i realized that everybody was working just for the weekend i was just like something's wrong here you know everyone's just waiting to watch to to see if it was me. And then I was like, oh, no. That song's so good, by the way.

It's like one of the best songs ever written. They're on tour this year. Are they really? Opening for... 1981. How good is this fucking song? Opening for Phil. No. Just listen to this.

That's a riff. Like, I know. That's so good. The little climb there makes it. What is the best decade and why was it the 80s? I'm sorry I missed it. That must have been fun for you guys. I mean, I was four. You were just raging?

It was hardcore? The saddest thing is learning that Men at Work broke up right before I was born. Yeah, true. But I was reading about Men at Work. And one of the issues they had was that they're the last album they had before they broke up was it just went poppy instead of like silly. Cause like the land down under is one of the greatest songs ever written, but it's really silly.

It is. And it's just, it's hilarious. And then they put out another album and it was kind of just serious. And it's like, guys, a lover boy is opening for van Hagar who is covering all the Van Halen songs. John Mayer's playing for him, right?

No, Stevie Vi, maybe? Stevie Vi, okay. Something like that. It's not John Mayer. He's playing with Dead & Company. Okay. God. I love Van Hagar.

As the resident old guy on the panel, I can tell you about all the 70s bands. Yo, it is wild that this band wrote a song, The Land Down Under, and it's like multi-planet. It's got 400 million views on YouTube. It came out like 81 or something. And it's just like the most ridiculous song imaginable. And it's like a masterpiece. It's like a huge hit.

It will always be. Classic. Yeah. See? Music's important. Do cultural stuff. People will come to it we got we gotta write stuff like this i think this is this is the key you know fun stuff do you come from

the land down under where women glow and men plunder like that video is just fucking amazing it is we got to bring it back when we do a cover of land down under yeah we could do a really hilarious video with richie because he's from Australia. We could. That would be great. We could get Richie to sing it. Yeah. I think this guy is still toast. I bet we could get him up to...

Can that work? I bet we could get it, yes. He's 70. The guy, yeah. He's on tour too. Yeah. I don't know if we even... Should we go to the next caller?

Yeah. Anything else out of that my friend nah you guys crushed it you're all awesome take care cheers for fears I mean the 80s really was the best everybody wants to rule the world but they had so much good shit

so much Hydro what's going on hey crew I am a senior at UNC Chapel Hill and I want to thank you Hydro, what's going on? Hey, crew. Hey. I am a senior at UNC Chapel Hill, and I want to thank you guys for keeping me sane for the last few years. Nice. So Tuesday I was in the middle of all the protests

with a lot of other pro-American and Jewish students throughout the day. Throughout the day we had people spit on us, shove us, scream at our face, all the stuff you'd expect. But while we're out there, what specific action and goals should we pro-American students have at these events? And how do we interact with these really hostile Palestinian supporters? I say you look at what their tactics are. They say, we're going to pray now. Will you please protect us? Have the Jewish students pray and then link arms and protect them, and

then tell the press the pro-Hamas people were threatening to attack them for praying and being Jewish. That's what the fucking leftists do. There's that video of the woman, and she's praying in front of the cops, but she's not even praying towards what's it called? Kaaba? It's just a fake mockery

of Islam because they're trying to put on a show and be like, they attacked me when I was praying, trying to antagonize people. So that's what you can do. You can play the stupid game of when you do, you pull a Niles crane. In the episode of Frasier, there's an episode where Frasier gets up from his seat where he normally sits to go get like a sugar packet or something in a stirrer. And a guy goes down and sits in his seat. Frazier is pissed off.

He's having a bad day. He's like, excuse me, sir. Get out of my seat. The guy refuses. They start words escalating. And then he grabs the guy and throws him. It's a good stuff out of my seat. The guy comes back later to sue Frazier.

And so then Niles, his brother, gets in between them and starts like saying things. And then the guy goes, listen here, man. And he puts his finger on his chest. And then Nas goes, whoa, whoa, and falls over and slams into a table. And then he gets up and he's like, you attacked me. And he goes, no, I didn't. And they're like, we all saw you touch him. And he fell.

And then Nas goes, countersuit. And that gets him to drop the lawsuit. My point is, that's the game they play. They will, when no one's looking, throw a brick at a cop, then immediately pull the cameras up. And then when the cops start arresting people, they go, oh, help us, they're attacking us.

So, you know, consider that. Yeah, I think that's really interesting. The other part for me is just, I don't think you have to ask us what should our goals be. Like, you're the ones who are choosing to be out there. There's obviously something that you feel passionate about. And I think ultimately, I can't say whether you want to directly confront a protester or what you want to do.

If there is a specific objective that you have, like again with UNC, the flag thing, you don't want the flag to touch the ground. I would just stand there and make sure it doesn't do that I don't know that engaging with the protesters is um the best move oh it depends what you want like if you're trying to have a viral moment with them maybe but if you're just trying to say like hey we don't want you to to you know spit on this thing or whatever else so we're just going to stand here and guard it we're not going to interact with your protest you know we're not going to give you the whatever else. So we're just going to stand here and guard it. We're not going to interact with your protest. You know, we're not going to give you the chance

to say that we're the aggressors. That's the stance I would take. But I bet you guys already know what your goals and values are because you're the ones choosing to be there. So I have a very strong opinion on this. As a former Tea Party organizer, we used to train our activists in nonviolence

because the left would always try to get us to fight back. Yeah. And they always wanted to capture that moment where they provoke you and then they clip that video and prove that, see, I told you the Tea Party was violent. Right, and the mainstream media is on their side, so it's more likely to be played in their favor than ours. And we're not the violent ones.

We don't believe in sucker-punching people or anything like that. We're the ones that are right on the issues. So I think it's important to practice nonviolence and then capture them when they're being the assholes and capture us being civil and respectful and right on the issues. That's my opinion. I think people on the right that's,

that say, hold my beer. I'm going to play fire with fire. I think it's a huge mistake because all we're going to see, uh, this happened on January 6th. All we see are the people that acted badly. Yep. Anything else to add to that, my friend? No, I appreciate it. Thank you guys for taking my call uh the reason i asked specifically about the goals is that a lot of these protests are happening during the day or we're being ran out of our own events and so it's not always that we're choosing to be there rather we're literally walking out of our classrooms and this is what is happening right in front of us yeah that's really tough sucks man dude stay safe and good for you for

at least identifying yourself as pro-America. Yeah. Best of luck, man. Thank you, guys. Cheers. All right. Next up, we got Asmodeus Ake. Asmodeus, how you doing?

Good. Thanks for letting me call in again. Cheers. Yeah. What's up? So I actually asked this question yesterday, but I wasn't able to get it in. So I wanted to know, with all the talk around the Israel-Gaza war and how it's affecting Democrats and Biden's chances, what about Trump?

Because he's stated his support for Israel before, but we're seeing a lot of discontent growing up in the right, and especially with this anti-free speech bill that's passed on the House. It's pissing off a lot of people, especially me. I mean, they've been doing this for a lot longer. There are state bills that prevent you from criticizing Israel. And do you think that a lot of America First people are going to demand that Trump either reduce aid to Israel or just stop funding them outright? How do you think he's going to respond?

I think people will just follow Trump. Yep. I think the America First people that actually have a significant problem with Israel are a small minority. I think most of America is very pro-Israel. I think they see Israel as a friendly Western power in the Middle East. And whether or not we like that here,

that's the way that your average normie looks at them. And your average normie still thinks we need to support Israel. And so Trump is going to do what the normies want. He's going to do what will, you know, what will cast the widest net. And I, and he doesn't have any chance of getting the

votes of the, of the pro-Palestinian people, right? Like no, they're none of the leftists are going to vote for Trump at all. So there's no reason for him to do what Biden is doing, which is try to, you know, placate those voters. And then all the voters on the right, even the America first people, they're going to look at everything else that Trump's talked about. And they're going to say, well, if, if he even, if he attempts to build a wall on the Southern border, that's worth it. Right? Like, so he still sends money to Israel. They're not going to be happy with that, but he will still do things here at home that will be far better than the, the alternative, which is what Joe Biden has. So I don't think it'll matter.

I think that the anti-Semitism bill that Congress put through is really interesting, a sort of a litmus test for the attitude of our country. I mean, you know, we were talking about it the other night on the show is like, this is something the Republicans are voting for to get the message across. Like we're against anti-Semitism,

you know, Jewish voters, please vote for me. But, you know, Jerry Nadler, who you think is like the most senior Jewish person in the Democratic Congress, I could be totally wrong on that. Chuck Schumer. Jerry Nadler is the one I'm talking about. He is Jewish and he voted, he is against the antisemitism bill. So it's, it is interesting that, you know, our understanding of these terms in the language are evolving in front of our eyes. I don't really, I can't really speak to how Donald Trump is going to handle it, but I do think the American people

are sort of watching this get reshuffled and resorted and redefined in front of our eyes. I don't really, I can't really speak to how Donald Trump is going to handle it, but I do think the American people are sort of watching this get reshuffled and resorted and redefined in front of them. That we're picking on DeSantis earlier. This is, this is the speaker's attempt to get us to look away from the shit show that has been his legislative agenda for the last three months. Um, it's all virtue signaling bullshit. I i i don't actually think it's going to go anywhere and and as far as i know trump hasn't even commented on it but it's they're pretending yeah it's all fake yeah yeah hope that helps yeah anything else out of that friend um just a quick follow-up have you ever considered making and i'm sorry i just thought of it um and then a january 6th anniversary t-shirt that rips off the skyrim line

um i'm just with like all the j6 protesters and it's a huge mob and it has the q anon shaman and it rips off the line my ancestors are smiling at me, liberal. Can you say the same? We don't really do the overt political shirts like that. Luke, maybe. Luke might, yeah. Yeah, ours were always more silly, like I'm a gorilla and the rooster. Okay. I just wanted to ask. Well, thanks for calling in.

Thank you. I feel like I never hear about Skyrim. Boys were into Skyrim. That was a fun video game for you guys for a while there, right? I never played it, but yes, it was. My brother really likedrim. I thought... Boys were into Skyrim. Like, that was a fun video game for you guys for a while there, right? I never played it, but yes, it was. So good.

My brother really liked it. I remember that. That's how I get all of my video game knowledge. Fallout 3, greatest video game I ever made. Is that here in West... No, 76 is West Virginia.

Yeah. 76 is pretty good, I hear. But it's multiplayer, so it's different. But Fallout 3, holy shit. I'm kind of a Super Mario guy myself. You gotta play Fallout 3. It's in DC.

And it's actually DC. It's post-apocalyptic DC after nuclear war. Okay. So good. It'll prepare me for the real one. It's like, I played like a couple dozen hours of it. When I finally went to DC for the first time, I was like, I know where everything is. It's crazy.

I went to the subway and I was like, oh, I know where to go. It was fucking weird. Alright, Crondors doors what's going on hey good evening everyone what up hey so my question is uh do you think the reason that these hamas protests were allowed to go on for this long is because the media was waiting for like a moment where a protester would be killed by the police officers or a counter protest. Cause you know, summer is coming and I think they need another one of these George Floyd moments. No,

just like, no, no. I like occupy wall street lasted longer. Occupy wall street was all over the country. There were hundreds of thousands of people in various camps and it went on for two months. There was, I was listening to, I think it was Morning Joe,

but they interviewed the head of the NYPD's patrol division, I believe, and I can't remember his name. But they were asking him, like, what is your take on this? What's your experience, blah, blah, blah. And one of the things he said was, like, this is basically being mismanaged by the administration. He was very critical of Columbia's president because he pointed out that the NYU president,

they had an encampment. She brought them in immediately. They cleared the campus. They put up walls around it. Look, building a wall is such a good idea. And that the Columbia president was the one who held off from calling in NYPD because you have to have,

the university have to invite the state or the city police to come onto their campus. And he was saying that's basically why Columbia's has gotten worse and worse and worse because they didn't decisively come out against it. Whereas NYU did. And you can see we're not really talking about NYU. We are talking about Columbia. They're the same city. I do. This is Luke's comment. When Abbott sent in whatever the National Guard, whatever it was, I thought they muddied the narrative by being too violent on kids that didn't look like they were being violent. Interesting. And so I think in some ways, like if these schools want to let this stuff fester, it's their problem.

Like, why are we inserting politics or the National Guard into it? That is a good point, though. I wouldn't be surprised if there is like a false flag where it's like a leftist protester is killed by a right winger or something. I'm not saying that things can happen. Well, just like the video you put up a little while ago about the with those guys running at the police with trash cans imagine if the police you know hitting them and striking them down and they's clipping down saying oh look at how the police are attacking them and they got hurt or one of them died from that and then now they're off on

their their run with that story but considering the israel thing nope people are going to be like anti-summites attack police but if you get a leftist who's like black lives matter they're going to be like violent white supremacist kills peaceful protester hmm no i could definitely see that you're right and uh but i suppose there's still plenty of time between now and the election right now yeah you're you're right there is plenty of time between now and the election but but the situation that's going on now on college campuses is really a situation of who seems more sympathetic right like the people that are protesting they're not helping the people of gaza at all because they're not sympathetic at all they don't they're not behaving some in a way that makes you sympathetic to them everyone knows that they're not sympathetic at all. They don't, they're not behaving in a way that makes you sympathetic to them.

Everyone knows that they're wealthy. Everyone knows that they're not needy. Everyone knows that they're only marginally informed. They're not making a good representation for the situation. The American people generally aren't behind the protesters. You see a lot of people like saying, yeah, get them out of there, clean them up and blah, blah, blah. So I don't see how this moves the needle

for anyone on the left at all. I think that they're just not a sympathetic group. You know, people feel more sorry for the Jewish kids that can't get to class or the regular kid, you know, the other kids that are not involved that can't go and do their normal schooling, you know?

I see. Right on. Wow. Anything else before we wrap up? One more thing I wanted to actually share with you. Well, Tim, you're always saying we need to build culture.

And I always hear you mentioning bringing back Saturday morning cartoons cartoons so actually um i just a few hours ago i put up a project in the showcase um kind of that involves all of you uh that i came up with uh and uh primarily around chicken city uh uh i already put up some posts there actually uh uh hannah cl there actually there's a character that represents you in there named after you as well and some of the others of course maybe something all of you would be interested in help me get off the ground especially since

you guys pretty much have everything that you would need you have musicians you have voice actors you have how you have access to Seamus who can pretty much do animations and knows how that works. Well, so Seamus. So like we have a project called The Little Friends that has just been on the back burner forever because it's just too hard to do. Animation takes a long time. Voice acting is difficult. You need a creative director like you need massive infrastructure for something like this. The Little Friends was based on like Snack from the

Step on Snack and Find Out. Roberto Jr. and Mr. Bocas and then we had there was a groundhog that lived on the property that we called what did we call him? Winston? And the idea was the Little Friends are all like the little animals that live on the property

including a couple of people from Chicken City. But Chicken City was like the big city off in the distance. And the little friends were like the little animals that lived on the farm. And then when they would go to Chicken City, it would be like a big city. And that was kind of the joke. And then the bad guys were the fox and the raccoon and the snake. And so we actually planned a lot of this out. We actually did a bunch of different drawing types of like what should they look like and then like the burden of producing the show was just way too

large for us to do and we were like we can't we can't prioritize this it takes like 10 times as many people to do as opposed to literally all the other projects we have like brett and mary basically handle pop culture crisis for the most part on their own to do a cartoon it's like you need 15 to 20 people and i'm just like yeah we can't we can't handle that oh no i i figure it takes it's a huge undertaking i mean even even the stuff that uh seamus does i'm sure that takes a heck of a crew as well we figured we've talked to seamus about like how do you make a freedom tunes longer format show and he's like oh it's like a million bucks for like eight episodes it's like yeah okay we

can't do that oh yeah i figured as much and uh but yeah i figured how uh i'd be more than happy to take you know let you have this and have have you let you have this you know signed and you know everything uh and if you guys can use it for anything, you know, hell, even doing, like, silly little comics and whatnot, I'd be happy just to see it, you know, help build some culture and, you know, add to all the stuff you guys do.

Well, I appreciate it. Well, thanks, mate. Yeah. Thank you. Thanks for calling in. Cheers, man. Cheers. That's everybody?

Yep, that's all. Matt, thanks for hanging out. out yeah it's been fun tomorrow on the culture war guess what we're talking about abortion oh that'll be fun um so we've got like a pro-choice pastor and a pro-life activist so we'll be talking about that and then of course tomorrow night will be fun and then as soon as the show wraps i'm flying to mar-a-lago. That'll be great. Yep. That is pretty cool. From the lake to the sea, Donald Trump shall be free. Thanks for hanging out. We'll see you all tomorrow.