Timcast IRL - NY AG To Open CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION Into Cornell 7 w/ Thomas Corbett-Dillon

Episode Date: October 3, 2026

On this episode Tim & the crew are joined by The Quartering to discuss New York's AG to open a criminal investigation into the Cornell 7 case Rumors erupting that the "Jane Doe" in the Cornell 7 case has been indentified The men in the Cornell 7 case claiming they were the victims Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere) | https://www.shoutout.fans/timpool Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) | https://allthatremains.komi.io/ Ian  @IanCrossland  (everywhere) Producer: Carter @carterbanks (X) |  @trashhouserecords  (YT) https://carterbanks.komi.io Guest:  Thomas Corbett-Dillon @TCorbettDillon (X) Thomas Corbett-Dillon is a British political strategist, writer and television commentator who previously advised Boris Johnson and has also worked with Theresa May and Liz Truss. He regularly appears on outlets including Fox News, GB News and the BBC discussing politics and foreign affairs.

Governor Kathy Hokel has announced she's going to be appointing a special prosecutor, Letitia James, to the Cornell allegation story, despite the fact that all of the records we have now, including a statement from the alleged victim, shows that it was entirely consensual. This story's been blown up because Me Too is back. But we've got a wave of stories about women who are arguing they have no responsibility because they have no agency. I'm not joking. Calm down. I'm not being mean.

We got one lady, murdered her kid. Another story because she lost custody. Another lady murdered her kids because she's crazy, I guess. You've got this woman in the Cornell story saying that even though she consented to everything, even though the men asked her if she felt uncomfortable and told her they would stop, she's still saying, but it doesn't matter because she has no agency because she's effectively a child. Now, that was me being mean. But Kathy Hockel's arguing that becoming voluntarily intoxicated doesn't mean,

consent, which would mean, and this is where it gets crazy, according to statements that are being rumored, they may be, I don't see these posts all over the place, some of the men in question are now accusing the Cornell woman of raping them. Because they said, while they all agreed to do drugs, she initiated the adult activities that they did not want and even told her to stop. This is so, so dumb. You know what this really comes down to is it's going to be a left versus right thing? be a conservative versus a lib thing because look, I'll put it this way. I don't care about any of these

guys. I mean, like, guys, if you're going to be getting involved in these kinds of activities with drugs and let's just call it lewd and lascivious activities, I'm not going to defend you. But I will tell you the truth. And the truth is, this is not a rape story. It's a story of a drunken, adult. I'll keep the language a little light for now, but you get the point. And then when the dudes basically got embarrassed and the girl got embarrassed. This is the statements. Okay. They were all embarrassed because people were spreading rumors about all of them guys included. The president of the frat told her she wasn't allowed to come to the frat anymore. She got pissed and said, you're throwing me under the bus. It would seem the actual story is that

rumors circulated of a ketamine induced orgy. Everybody was embarrassed by it. They decided they were going to kick her out of the party, the upcoming party she was begging to come to with the heart emoji and everything, she was like, okay, so this is a re, this story is actually a story of dishonor, disloyalty, and revenge. We're going to talk about that and a whole lot more. Smash the like button,

share the show and all the good stuff, joining us tonight to talk about this and everything else. It's Thomas Corbett Dillon. Hello, thanks for having me. Who are you? What do you do? I'm Thomas. I was a former advisor to the prime minister in England, Boris Johnson, although not a big fan of him anymore,

but that's okay. Now I just do television, so I'm over here. I do a lot of talking head stuff. So if you hear a British accent, it's probably me. Right on. It's going to be fun. We get the boys hanging out. Everybody. Hello, everybody, Phil. Here, Carter. What's going on? What's up, everyone? Good to have you back, Thomas. We've got a lot to talk about. Let's get into it. Before we do, my friends, go to timcast.com and click join now to become a member of the Discord community.

We can't do this without you. You need to step up and be the change that you want to see in the world. As we watch all of these awful things happen, all of the lies and the manipulations, we ask that you be that grain of sand in the heap that allows us to do the work that we do. Because, as I said, without our members, without you, none of this would be possible. And I know y'all are busy. The most important thing you could and should be doing is taking care of your family, planning for your life, securing your finances, planning your next stephead. That means you don't got time to be in the political fray. well, good news. We do. And all you got to do is join the Discord, hang out with like-minded people when you have the opportunity, and your membership makes what we do possible, and we will stand on

the front line for you. And don't forget, when you do have time, we welcome you to our members' events to directly be involved. So join us. It's fun. Some people have even gotten married by meeting in the Discord. It's pretty crazy. Don't forget to again smash their like button. Let's jump into the news. We got this from Fox News. Cornel Rape, allegations prompt New York Attorney General Letitia James to open active criminal investigation. The AG was appointed special prosecutor by Governor Hockel of questions about Cornell police conduct. We're also seeing viral images that purport to be the woman in question. Now, we're going to show you all of the posts that are going viral.

But I'm going to stress, I have not been able to independently verify the identity of the Jane Doe, nor that the images being shared are of the correct person. And so you've got all these images of this woman going viral. I'm telling people like, yo, they're posting memes that are pretty brutal. Okay, some language I'm not going to repeat. They're putting images of the woman's face on trains. You know, if it turns out that's not the right person, y'all are going to be in trouble. You're going to get sued into oblivion.

That being said, I do have some guesses. I am going to go ahead and assume the moment this Jane Doe files this lawsuit, the guys in question know who she is. Come on. Everybody at the college knew who she was. She was being called names. She was mad about. It was only a matter of time before all of this broke out into the public and everyone knew what her name was. So there's a lot of people who believe this is the one we're going to show you.

But we'll start here. We've got Kathy Hokel opening this special. announcing the special prosecution. New York Attorney General, Leticia James announced Friday morning. She has opened an active criminal investigation into the alleged gang rape. This is now an active criminal investigation

led by the office of the attorney general, James said, after New York Governor Kathy Hochel appointed her as an independent prosecutor of the case. Every New Yorker deserves to know that when they report a crime, it will be investigated fully and fairly, that they will be seen and heard that this promise, this is the promise of our justice system. Okay, well, here's the facts.

This woman, actually, you know what? shoe on head has a post here where she actually highlights key elements from the, I'm going to show this. We talked about it last night, but it bears repeating. Here's what they're opening a criminal investigation into. The DA says her sworn statement to Cornell police in 2024 described the activity very differently from the lawsuit. She did not say she had been drugged against her will. She acknowledged voluntarily consuming alcohol and drugs. The DA said she described herself as conscious during the relevant events. She did not describe herself as unconscious or physically incapacitated. She did not describe the events as a gang rape. Most importantly, the DA says her statement

described her participation in sexual activity as voluntary and consensual, including with several men. According to the DA, when she asked particular men to stop, they stopped. So this is the story that has been going around, of course, for the life of me. And we'll start here because we've got a lot to break down. You guys. I think we all have our opinions on this one, but I'd hear from you guys. Why is it that women, despite the facts proving it was voluntary and consensual, are claiming otherwise? Likely it's because they feel like they can identify with her, right? They've done something that they regret.

So they endorse her claim of rape because it makes them feel like they're validated for having, you know, for the things that they did that they regret. It allows them to put the blame on someone else as opposed to acknowledging that their bad decisions led to them feeling bad about the situation. It's not pretty. It's not nice to talk about, but that's probably the thing it is. That's why that's the argument that the Lindsay Clancy supporters make.

They say, I understand Lindsay. I understand how she felt. They may not have actually committed, well, hopefully the vast majority of them having committed murder. But they say I understand because I felt stressed when I had kids and I had postpartum depression or I had this, I had that. So I understand. So because of that, if I were to condemn her, it's like I'm condemning myself and I don't want to feel like I did anything bad. So therefore, I'm going to say that she didn't do anything that was actually wrong or that, you know, we have to understand her because I would look for that understanding.

It's all about the way that they feel about themselves, I think. And in regards to this, it's not that they're trying to defend the woman who got, who took the gang, but they're trying to induce, like, show that these other guys are guilty. It's like deeply psych, when people are in deep psychosis, they know animalistically that if you can convince the world of a lie, that they will believe it and then the world will adopt reality as if that lie is real. People know that. And deep psychos will like animalistically do it. I think some people are literally what they call out of their minds and they're just working off an animal instinct and they're like, yeah, let's make it real. I don't, I don't think I agree with the idea that all the people that are saying,

uh, that she was assaulted or psychotic. No, I don't think all of them are, but I think it's a deep form of psychosis is when you know it's not real, but you know you can convince people of it and make it effectively function as reality. People will do, I've seen people do it. It's crazy. And it's not, it's not uncommon either. That's the weird thing about it. That's why I say, I think that psychosis is a specific thing, like psychotic a psychotic person is a specific thing. I think that this is about the way that they feel and not wanting to feel bad about

themselves. A lot, but it's about having power. It's about saying, like, we get our way. We can do what we want. F off. What do you think, Thomas? I think women are impressive. I like the way they would never say a bad word against another woman.

They act like sort of the world's best mafia. It's like, you know, any woman that's in trouble. You don't think. The whole base of the story, this woman in question was the centerpiece of idolization from these men. So other women started calling it rape to justify it's so. Oh, interesting. Yeah, so here's what happens.

But they're still defending her. She's not any, she's not guilty in any. Sort of, sort of. Here's what happened. She has a gang bang. She loved it. Apparently, according to some of the guys, this is the reporting, it may be rumors. It may not be true.

There's a lot of fake news out there. but there's posts showing where the guys were like they didn't want to hook up with her and she initiated it and so they're like she raved me right she has a gang bang she texts the guy like what the main dude that she's like kind of hooking up with she loved it right she said I really liked being with you

and Matt to this guy whatever his name was and uh so she's having a good time she tells her roommates hey there are rumors going around that I'm a slut and it's absolutely true the other women went online and said they were gang raping her. Why? To justify why it would be that all of these guys wanted her at the same time. So it's jealousy. Wow. Why would you make up this story? I mean, again, I'm going to stress,

this is the New York Times reporting this. I'm not making this up. The New York Times reported she said it's all true and she was a slut. She was a whore. Other women started posting that she had been gang raped. In response to that post, she texted the main dude and was like, dude, this is BS. Why are they this. The dude said, this is BS. I'm going to report it and get it taken down. Both the woman and the guy were upset that random people from the college were accusing him of raping her. Now, the question is, psychology, why would random women go on and start attacking her as being a rape victim? They started calling her a slut and a whore. Others started calling her a rape victim. All of it to denigrate this of her being the centerpiece of idolization among these men.

She then gets embarrassed, her reputation ruined, and she maintains positive contact with these guys, and then asks them to come to the next gangbang, to which they say yes. Then the fret president says, you know what? You can't come. Why? According to the reporting from the New York Times, again, not my opinion. Everybody around the school is claiming that they raped her and she's denying it and they're denying it. The fred is like, we don't want to be involved with whatever this is, so you probably shouldn't come.

She gets pissed and says, I knew so it would happen. It's always the woman that gets a short end of the stick. Here's the story that I see. A woman had a gang bang with a bunch of guys and loved it. The guys loved it. Women got jealous and started posting online calling her a slut or a rape victim. The woman and the men in the gang bang were pissed off. Everybody was embarrassed.

She said, they won't leave me alone. My reputation is ruined. He says, don't worry, it'll blow over. They're friends. But finally then, when the frat says, you're not welcome at our frat house anymore because of the damage to all of their reputations, she then basically says it's time for revenge. I got to be honest, none of these people are good people. Right. So it's funny.

It's like, I got people in me up being like, why are you defending these frat guys? What, they're scumbags? They're having ketamine gangbangs. I don't like these guys. They're losers. But I'll add to that. They backstabbed this chick. They stabbed her in the back.

She wanted to keep hanging out with the guy and go to another gang bang, and they wouldn't let her come because they didn't like the bad reputation they got from having the gang bang in the first place with her. And it's probably even more nuanced. There were, I don't know how many dudes were involved. Five. I keep picturing five to seven. It was seven.

Cornell seven. Yeah. Oh, holler. And that's greater or worse. That's great. Grand and scope. I don't know if that's a good or evil thing. But anyway, maybe a couple of those guys did call, like, leave and they're like,

yo, that girl's all slut and started spreading it. But the main guy didn't. And he's like, oh, my God, this is so out of hand. Yeah. And then maybe girls. She sent them a heart emoji saying, I'm going to bring my Sigs to the party. It sounds. She wanted the second gang bang.

It really sounds like a spiraling of shame that the center few people experienced. And then it got more and more and more and then they imploded. That's all this was. It was like people did a crazy thing. Now they're ashamed of it. I don't even know why this is illegal. thing. I hear you. I hear all the theories. I'm going to go and say upon reading all of the texts, the messages, the statements, the New York Times laying out this timeline. It's pretty incredible.

It's two weeks after the first gang bang, they're having a Halloween party. And she's like, I want to come to this one. And they're like, yeah, the guy literally says, this house is your house. You are always welcome here. Then the frat president calls her says, no, we don't think it's a good idea. Because they didn't like that people were claiming they raped her. So they said, you can't come. So what does she do? She says, fine. This is a story of betrayal. It's a story of drug, gang bang, gangbangers, all of them. Everyone involved. The woman's a ketamine gangbanger and the guys are all ketamine gang bangers. Well, actually, gangbangers are the right word. It sounds like, oh, gang bang. Gang rapists? Gang bangists. That's how you, that's how you

delineate. You know what this is? The lowest circle of hell is reserved for the betrayers and the mutineers. So I'll just say this. First, I would never be involved. in a gang bang, let alone a ketamine gang bang, or even doing ketamine. I've never done hard drugs in my life. So I just have no respect for any of these people. But I said this earlier today. If I was in college, part of a frat or something, and there was a chick that I was friends with, and we had hooked up, and people were spreading rumors about us and they were

insulting us. And then my frat or whatever told her she was not welcome to hang out. You know what I'd do? I'd text her back and say, I'm ditching the party and coming to hang with you. I don't betray my friends like that. If they've got a problem with this, that's on them, not on me, and I won't leave you behind. Frats are pretty crazy.

I wasn't in a frat in college, but they would probably throw you out of the frat if you did something like that. I think frat people are losers. I always kind of thought so. I never joined it on purpose. My first week at college, I was a freshman, we went to a, we were walking down the street,

me and my roommate Bob, my college buddy from, we've known each other and see we were three. We went to this frat party and they were like, Foozball, and they were playing. I was like, yeah, I'm really good at Fuzball. They're like, okay. but if we shut you out 10 and nothing, you have to streak naked through the house.

And I was like, all right, I'm good at Fusball. They were not going to stand. Nine, nothing. And then I scored, I could score a goal. And they were like, no, they were all pissed off. Dude, I was sweating so hard. It was crazy. Just drunken.

What's that? Like pretty gay. It wanted me naked, dude. It was crazy. Okay, here's what I'd say about frets. I don't care about fraternities or sororities in the general sense of like you find a community that you're going to work with in college.

And then when you guys get older, you have friends, you have connections. All that's great. but I'm talking specifically about these dudes you see the story where they found a bunch of freshmen in a basement covered in ketchup yeah yeah if I find out and look I understand who am I right

I'm not a hedge fund I'm not you know whatever I'm nobody I'll just tell you this though for what it's worth anybody comes to a job comes to me for a job I'm gonna be like yeah were you in a fret were you hazed you were the fuck out of my house we had on I'm not hiring anybody

look there aren't that many places places for men anymore and like, you know, that kind of is an attack on another sort of brotherhood. There aren't, you know, look at what every society in, you know, members clubs and things, you can't have men only place anymore. You're not the only one place where you can like just get men together. Yeah, no, you're not a man if you get on your knees so a guy can smack you with a half full of catch up. Those are the extreme stories.

I'm sure. I agree. I don't think that always happens. But I don't think we should be getting rid of male spaces. I didn't say that. I said the frats are fine. Like the term fraternity, you got really psychotic. fraternities and then you have like cool places.

Exactly what I said. I'm never in the movie. I'm just in the movies. But apparently it sounds pretty realistic. The idea of a fraternity where you can make friends and you can have a male space. As I already said, all of that is fine. However, there are too many of these that do these hazing rituals. And if you engage in hazing, you're a loser. You are a loser. You will. That's just it. You need validation and acceptance so bad you get on your knees for another man. I'm not interested in working with a person. Kind of like boot camp, but I don't know. No, no, no, no, no, no, no way.

Boot camp is based AF. Boot camp is you go in and there is a story learned guy telling you to stop being a bitch and go crawl to the mud to be a better man. Hazing is get on your knees for me so I can smack you with a fistful of ketchup. I think the similarity, I didn't do boot camp and I didn't do hazing, but I think the similarity is they want to break your will so that you become one of the group. That's the point of the horrific experience. to traumatize you and rebuild you from the

basic training is to strip down your inner bitch you did it you did it literally basically what was your take on it um it was a lot about teaching you teamwork teaching you to stop thinking about yourself as an individual thinking yourself as a member of a team

and focus on whatever your goal is at the time it's part of the reason why like if so if one person messes up everybody goes and does PT they had this this area called the pit, which is just basically a sandbox, and everyone out, if someone messes up, they'll put everybody in the sandbox and you're all doing PT in the sandbox, sit-ups, whatever. And if you don't want to be the reason why everyone goes to the pit, right? You don't

want to be the reason why everyone has to go and roll around in the sand and be miserable for the rest of the day. So a lot, and a lot of it is, it's teaching you to, you know, it's mostly, a lot of it's getting to get you to pay attention to details because details matter and it's also getting you to work as a team member. Hazing is

mindless. There was that one remember that one where the cops came and they had a bunch of dudes like in the basement and the cops were like, you can't do this and not a one of the guys would speak out against like,

dude, I, the last thing I need when I'm trying to build something is somebody who is so mentally weak, they would let another man do that to them. That's just the reality. Basic training, an individual enlists signs up to enter a tough physical space because they have chosen to strip themselves of their inner bitch. And also, when you allow yourself to go through a horrific

training process, if there's a goal at the end that you're trying to accomplish something, that's reasonable. But if it's just a party house, like with you want to make friends, it's not a good reason to do it. It's not, first of all, it's not like horrible, right? Like basic training is hard. Right. But it's not like they're not, it's not horrible. Like you don't feel like when the, when your drill instructors are yelling at you or whatever, it doesn't feel personal, right? Even though they'll say, sometimes they'll say some pretty nasty stuff or whatever, at least when I was and they did. Um, it didn't feel like it was personal and it didn't feel

like they were trying to embarrass you or mock you, right? It was trying to, it was trying to teach you to do the correct to do things the, the right way. You didn't see a humiliation ritual? No, no. You get that in like full metal jacket, the movie, you know, there's instances of the drill sergeant humiliating one of them. Yeah, I mean, look, because he had a donut in his. I can't speak to, I can't speak to what basic was like in the 60s. Okay, I can't, I don't know.

I wasn't there. I went in the 90s. But, you know, they would still yell at you. They would still swear. They would still be like, you know, they would still call you names. But it wasn't about humiliating you. It was about correcting you making an error. So, again, this is, I can't speak for, for older.

generations. I know that the standards have changed and I know that it's different now too. But when I went through, it wasn't humiliation rituals. It wasn't trying to embarrass you. It wasn't trying to make you feel like you were an idiot or something. They were trying to correct you for errors that you made and trying to teach you how to do things right. They weren't soft on you and it was hard, but it wasn't super horrifying. One of the things that people get a lot, hear a lot of stories about it, get most worked up about it. is like the gas chamber that you go into. And there's a lot of buildup to that.

But you get instruction. If you follow the instructions, it's not that bad. It's really not. The only point of the gas is to make sure that you can clear your gas mask properly. And the gas lets you know that you screwed up if you do it wrong. Right? It's not going to hurt you. Like a live fire training or something?

Basic training isn't a, we did it so you have to. Yeah. It's basic training. You're eating better food. You're getting fit. in these three months, you're going to get rid of all that fat, you're going to be able to do pushups, you're going to have some strength, you're going to be better prepared. Right, the shared humiliation.

What you do PT every day? Yeah. The shared humiliation of frats and like the whole, that's really, really crazy to me. That was so weird. They like, put shaving cream on. I mean, just the amount of things they would do. They started to make it illegal at a lot of colleges. Did you see that stuff when you went to college?

Because I never, I didn't know. No, I stayed away from frats pretty much the whole time. We had a frat in the theater department. I was a theater major after my freshman. sophomore year, but I didn't join it. Our parties were kind of crazy, but like no gangbangs that anyone talked about. You probably have an occasional threesome. Let's have one for sure. Let's jump to this story. So we've got a handful of posts here. It is now being alleged by numerous large ex-accounts that Lucy Craig is the individual known as

Jane Doe. I've not been able to independently verify that. So I say right now, I don't know it's true, but the amount of people, I mean, millions upon millions of followers, everywhere on the internet posting photos of her, they're all saying it's her. My presumption is, look, everybody at Cornell knew who this girl was because the story was massively viral and she was being called a slut and a whore and all that stuff. So it's not even about whether one of these seven guys released her information, but how do you remain at Jane Doe when everyone at your college knew what you did? Yeah. Soon or later, her name was coming out. Yeah. That's like, that's another thing of like, If this happened, maybe it was embarrassing.

Maybe people were calling you a slut, but like you kind of keep it to yourself. It's sort of that whole, you don't want to freak out about it. You kind of want to make light of it. I got to pause you. She stated in the documents, she is quoted as saying she is a slut. Yeah. It's true. She did it.

When people make fun, if people make fun of you, if you take it personally, you go, stop, no, no, uh, it gets worse and worse and worse. But if you're just like, yeah, it goes away instantly. So this is what happened. When people were calling her a horn of slut, she texted the main dude and he was like, I'm sorry, like, it's going to blow over. People will just ignore it and it'll go away. She's like, you're right. It'll get better. And then someone started posting that she had been gang raped and she got pissed.

The dude, she texted them like, why are they saying this? And he said, this is BS. I'm going to report this and get it removed. Other people made up the rape story and she was with them. No. Check this post out from AF. Post. Fraternity brothers, Gileo Lopez, and Winston Lee alleged that Lucy Craig initiated unwanted and non-consensual sexual contact with them. The Cornell son doxed both men as rapist, despite statements suggesting

that Craig was the aggressor. Now, A.F. Post posted this image. I'm presuming that's Lucy Craig. Gina Milan posted, this is Lucy Craig, aka Jane Doe, who was allegedly the victim in the Cornell lawsuit. One of her recent IG posts is just a photo of her from the chest down showing her her out. outfit with the caption, fun and funky outfits to keep the sorrows away. From what I can see, she seems to be enjoying life and posting pictures like everything is completely normal. The whole thing is bizarre. Now, I'll say it again, I've not been able to find any verification that Lucy Craig is Jane Doe, but everybody's posting that it is. Take that for what it means. If it turns out Lucy Craig is not this, or this is not the right Lucy Craig, then people are going to get sued.

People got some spleening to do. Well, so there are some posts. going around allegedly of the frat bros talking about it and there's an Asian woman. And so some people are like, that's not her. I tried to search Lucy Craig on Instagram. Because there's pictures of an Asian woman and they're like, they're having a gangbang with an Asian woman. Well, the guy's names are all, you know, every one of the guys has been doxed. And I think it's, you know, I don't want a doxom, but I think a lot of people have

seen their faces. It's kind of interesting. It's very diverse. Have you seen the crowd of guys? They kind of tick every box. There's even like a little Hawaii like Islander guy. There's a black guy, a white guy, like a Latino guy. I'm like, wow, they really ticked all the diversity.

But I think a lot of people are implying that this is like your traditional frat bro, like white crew of like, you know, waspy people. It's actually not. It's a very different crew. So yeah, the whole story is, but you know, their lives are ruined. One of the guys already lost his job at a bank and, you know, and literally have not been proven anything that they did. But their lives are kind of over.

That's the problem with these things is that there's, you know, there's no, they don't need to be from guilty of anything. I think we should stand up for these people. And I mean, all on Lucy also, like, you know, none of you guys did anything wrong. You had a crazy freaking night, obviously. It was an animalistic. Okay, come on. If she's going to press charges, she did something wrong.

If she consented the entire time, if the story, if the statements to the police are correct, and she consented, which is what the evidence points at, right now. And then years later, she says, I'm going to press charges. I'm going to, you know, sue you in a civil lawsuit. Then she did something wrong. Look at this. And additionally, Letitia James, AOC, all the people that have already chimed in and said that they're, that have, you know, decided that the, the men are guilty. They've done something wrong as well. Look at this. Mr. Lopez said that she initiated the sexual contact and did not ask for his consent. left around 2 a.m. he said after he became uncomfortable and went with three friends

of McDonald's. He said he did not tell them what it would have transpired in part because he was admittedly a bit embarrassed about what happened. Mr. Lee also said that Jane Doe initiated sexual activity without asking. He said she snored it. He said he snorted a line of ketamine off her body and she tried to initiate sex. I kind of took a step back because I didn't want to engage in anything like sex. I thought it wasn't the time for that. But later in the night, Mr. Lee said he asked for Jane Doe's consent before engaging in a threesome with her. He recalled telling Jane Doe, if you're uncomfortable with any of this or you don't want to do this, that's perfectly fine.

We can call it a night. She replied, we're all consenting adults here. This is the most crazy story. So earlier in the night, he snorted K off her body. And she probably reached for him and like grabbed at him. And he was like, no, no, no, not yet. Not now. And then later he was like, God, I really am horny.

And so he goes back to her. He's like, hey, are you still down? And she's like, yeah, of course. Well, this is horrifying. I mean, she raped him. He couldn't consent. He was high. He did drugs.

And she reached for him. And he said no. Later on, when he was too intoxicated, and know what was going on, she raped him. If the drugs are on her body, does that mean she provided the drugs? Maybe, I don't know. I mean, look, they're all ketamine gangbangers.

I have no sympathy for any of them, but the truth. Okay, the truth is, it's not rape. Yeah, if they can all corroborate that she said, we're all consenting adults here. Yeah. That right there kills her case. And additionally, there was something that was said. I don't know if it's in this particular screencap,

but she said, There were times where they discussed certain sexual acts that she declined and they didn't do those and certain sexual acts that she consented to and they did those. That right there shows that all of the allegations of sexual misconduct are false. So wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on. This is amazing. We got texts here. Apparently it's from ABC. I got a fact check this. I know some of them are, I know the first two are true, but listen to this. bro everyone knows i'm incredibly stressed out some random censored told some of my friends i don't even know who that is how she know me i will also say this say this is my life temporarily my reputation is destroyed and i'm utterly ashamed you're right it'll get better and you think

everyone's just jealous of us but also like everyone needs to grow up because sexuality and sex and redacted is changing and stuff like this is going to become more common i'm also really open-minded, though. I love you, King. Also, tell anyone who gives you, is, that I'll actually beat them up that don't want that smoke, I promise. So what I can say is, I'm going to, I'm going to try and pull this up because it's just an image on X. But these are all in the New York Times story. Even the, you're right, it'll get, it'll get better. But holy crap, if she did say, everyone needs to grow up, it's going to become, I love you, it's going to become normal. I love you king? That's text from her to him. Yes. I like the first reply there calling her gang bang

Jane. Is that her new nickname? Well, I mean, it's Jane Doe, right? A question also, this is a little tangential. I don't think this actually happened in this story, but considering rape, like, if you're having sex with someone and it's going on for 10, 20, 30 minutes or whatever, it's four hours, however you like to do it. And then she's like, okay, stop and you keep having sex, I guess that you would consider that rape. If you're like, hold on, hold on, stop, she's right. And then she doesn't stop, that would be technically raped? Yeah. What if it's your wife?

And it's been going on for 20. She's like, I'm tired and you're just, is that rape? Yes. Is that illegal? Yes. Does that? I know. But like, think about that.

Oh my God. Have you ever been with a girl and she's like, stop? Like, pretending, use that cheap voice. And you're like, don't pretend to tell me to stop because later you can pretend to charge me with rape. This is part of why there is a serious degradation of, of, of, of, uh, of, uh, of in relationships and stuff because women will say we want affirmative consent all the time, right?

Or we must be, we must give you affirmative consent all the time. And they will say that to their friends and stuff like that. They will say that in public. And then they'll wonder why guys, when a woman says, no, don't do that in that same kind of voice that you're talking about. And the guy says, okay, I won't. And then she's like, well, you know, I like him. and he really didn't, you know, I liked him

and but he didn't, you know, he never asked me out or whatever or what have you. It's mixed signals that guys are receiving and that's why guys are like, well, I don't know what the hell to do. That's part of the reason why guys are checking out of society. Not because affirmative consent is bad, but because it's a mixed,

there's a mixed, there are mixed signals coming from, from society. And dudes know that if they read the signals incorrectly, they're criminally liable. Dude, this is nuts. quote, I do know people are changing the narrative because like in any sexual scenario with one woman and many men, the woman was probably the victim. That's what she said. Oh, well, she's acknowledging.

Okay, okay. I think this is open and shut non-case. It is. And that's why it's so weird that pushing this. ABC News now obtaining the first statement to police by a former Cornell student who claims she was gangraped by seven members of a fraternity. Tonight here, the text messages between her and one of the alleged attackers, what she says and how he responds. Here's Aaron Kuturski. Tonight, for the first time, the original some she said she consented to and some that felt like coercion.

The young woman recalled a group of multiple men walking into a room. I was instantly horrified, and I remember squealing out loud and running across the room and hiding under the covers on another bed. As the night wore on, I felt like I was unable to make any decision because of how intense. intoxicated I was. But tonight, the district attorney still believes that statement showed consensual sex, despite vulgar Snapchat messages shared among the fraternity brothers, appearing to invite more men into the room. If you take that Snapchat being vile and crude and vulgar, that did not have any relevance to the issue of whether Jane Doe consented to what was happening. Tonight, ABC News has also obtained text messages Jane Doe exchanged days after with what. One of the men she now accuses of rape.

Bro, everyone knows. My reputation is destroyed, and I'm utterly ashamed. But later texting, everyone needs to grow up, because sexuality and sex is changing, and stuff like this is going to become more common. I'm also really open-minded, though. I love you, King. The following week, that man appears worried.

I'm being labeled an assaulter in the public eye. Jane Doe first reassured him. I've never mentioned your name. But the next day she texts, I think I'm done talking. talking to you, I know you lied. And that same day, she went to police. On social media, the fraternity brothers have been dubbed the Cornell 7. A lawyer for one of them said that's not fair and his client is innocent. It's guilt by association. When you actually

read the complaint and see what's there, you realize they're not accusing him of rape. Tonight, the governor of New York says Cornell has now accepted her call for an independent investigation. Bro, this is wild. I love you, King. And then he betrays her. And so she gets her revenge. Yeah. I don't know why they're pushing it so hard. Like, why is the attorney general getting involved and all this? It's a strange story. It feels like high school drama. It's like, you know, people texting and arguing and all of a sudden it's the biggest story in the world. It's, it feels like things are supposed to work out in reality sometimes. And this is the opportunity where like, they're like, look, here's a really bad thing that's easy to disprove.

And now it's your chance to be like, bad idea. And then it's done. That's what this feels like yeah i mean i don't see how how can they like it's clear how is there any case here i don't see what leticia james is going to do is she going to find some she's going to ride this as hard as she can same thing with uh a oc because it it is a you know it is a victimized woman allegedly a victimized woman and so it's what they're supposed to do as women in power they're supposed to support women they're supposed to believe all women but the problem is that the problem is that There doesn't seem to be the evidence that this was actually raped. Some smart women said the lady on the view, I forget who it was, but she came out and said, yeah, she backtracked.

Oh, she changed. Of course she did. She got yelled at until she backtracked. Sonny Hosten was like, Sonny Hauston was like. Running by a bunch of women to change her opinion. Sonny Hauston was like, she consented to all of this. She did the drugs. She agreed to be with his men.

And she was like, that's what happened. And then after she got attacked mercilessly online, she came out and said, no, no, I'm just saying that the law. needs to change because those men should go to jail. Oh, of course. Yeah. That seems to be what's happening. I know. People applying pressure to a vulnerable woman who then changes her story. Sonny Hosten echoing with this Jane Doe chick did.

It's really, really terrible. Yeah. But these guys' lives are ruined. You know, even if this goes away. I don't care. I don't care. I don't know. You want to join a frat and do a ketamine gang bang?

Yeah, and then you're like, oh no, the consequences of my actions. Whatever. I think it's wrong to falsely accuse guys of rape. But in current year, if you want to go have ketamine-induced and fueled gang bangs, I'm sorry, dude. I'm looking at this woman and these guys having a drug-induced gang bang, and I'm like, I'm not going to feel sorry for any of them. This is going to make-

I will call out the truth. This is not a rape. But like, the guys shouldn't face any penalties on rape. They shouldn't be getting criminally charged. But their lives are ruins from their own actions. is going to make more dudes apprehensive about dealing with women.

Why would you risk it now, right? Yeah, well, the thing is like... In cells are growing. Yeah, I mean... It's not even in cell now. It's voluntary. That's the thing. It's like dudes are checking out.

Of course. You're saying, well, I don't, you know, I can't find a good woman. I don't want to. And the more women are overtly sexual, which is what is necessary to make it clear to a guy who's apprehensive about talking to women.

And what's necessary to make it clear that it's okay for you to talk to me, I will take the initiative, the more he's going to think, well, what if she changes her mind? Yep. You know, this is, this is, it's terrible for society,

this whole, the idea that you can have, you know, the whole free sex idea from the 60s that comes along with feminism, the kind of stuff that they're putting on call her daddy and talking about. It's horrible for women. It's horrible for me. You know, it's important not to become in cell.

You don't want to be, I mean, and it's up to you. If you want to be celibate, which means you don't have any sex ever, okay, but you don't have to be celibate to avoid this. Just be chast. It's a, it's a virtue in Catholicism, a Christian virtue, chastity. It means keep it in your pants except for your girlfriend, except for your woman. That's supposed to be for your wife. Yeah, your wife.

You know, the one that you're building a marriage with, just don't swing it around. I mean, it's not that hard to not be. be involved in Academy and Gang Bang. It's definitely not hard to avoid. Let's pull up this story from the New York Times. Men accused in Cornell sex assault suit give varying accounts of the night. The reason why this story is big is because the men are now in fact accusing Jane Doe of rape. So we can just scroll right down here.

So let me read this for you. In the hours of interviews and a statement collected during the Cornell administrative investigation over the winter of 24, all the men denied any wrongdoing. Four acknowledged having sexual contact with the woman, but said that their interactions had been consensual. The others denied participating in sexual encounters. One said that he, in fact, was a victim of sexual misconduct because the woman had given him oral when he was too incapacitated to consent. All their accounts differed. She's got to be criminally charged for this.

She should be criminally charged for this. Yeah, I agree. For working that dude off when he was in cap. Here's what's going to happen. With Letitia James getting involved, if you're a guy, guy in a blue state, you've got one move. After you have sex, immediately film yourself saying I was just raped and then cry. And then write on a piece of paper the date and hold up a newspaper and then turn the TV on, go to your roommates and film yourself telling them she just raped me.

Then if it ever comes up, you could be like, here's a video I made of that night saying she had raped me. I was just too scared because of the political ramifications. Or or just call the cops on her. You could also get her ahead of time, be like, look, I need. I need. consent, but I need to put on video. We're going to record the whole thing. You're going to say we're both going to acknowledge consent before we get. It's not good enough. What? And then you get a video because you could deep fake it. No, because we all we. I'm joking, by the way. I'm not saying. I understand. What I'm telling you is that we've already had these cases where a man actually had gotten written consent from or like via

text messages. And she argued she was pressured into texting him and she didn't want a consent, but had no choice. And they're like, okay, it's right. You dispute. Right. Uh, Confessions under duress. Your only move as a guy is to immediately report the woman who's banged for rape. And of course, if you like her, you're not going to do that. Like, what a conundrum. Sorry, were you about, you were about to say something? No, I just can't believe this.

I mean, it's just like, I don't really know what. Everyone knows. It's crazy. It's crazy. Everything everywhere all the time is rape. Yeah. It's just, that means it's over. It's like, like what else can we do?

Like, if it seems to be the only thing now. You say you've got to accuse. Well, women have no age to say. Right. Yeah. So I don't know. I feel for these, the guys, it's, uh, it's tough. I feel for the girl, too, because I think sex is different for women. You know, once it happens, it changes women in a, in a different way than it changes.

I don't, I don't, I don't feel for any of them. They're ketamine gangbanks. Not, though, I mean, guys in general. Oh, guys. Like, if you're putting up with this, you know, that's, it's pretty tough. Yeah, even if a guy gets a wind of fill out of form, she'll say, I didn't sign it. Yeah. Or she'll beg, they forced me to.

Ian, were you saying that you should record the entire, like, happening of the sex? So you can later go back and be like, this is what happened? liked every minute. We will break it down frame by frame. Not one time did she complain. And then she'll go, I had to pretend that I liked it. Otherwise, he'd kill me. And then all the women are going to be like, I know exactly what she's saying. And the guy's like, I asked her if she likes it. She said, yeah. It's like that, we played the video yesterday where there's a woman and she goes to a bunch of women and men. She's like, if you had a night where you're completely safe, what would you do? And the women are all like,

I'd go for a walk. And then all these women are like, it's so scary to be a woman, even though men are more likely to be victims of violent crime. This is what happens. Literally no matter what happens if a woman's like, oh, yeah, like I told him yes, but because I was scared. Remember that video 10 hours of walking through New York as a woman? Yeah. Literally, it's a woman walking in New York. Some of the guys are creepy for sure.

But some of the guys are like, morning, and they call that sexual harassment. A guy says, how you doing, ma'am? And they're like sexual harassment. And there's a slew of gym video. of girls with like guys looking at them while they're working out. And there are a few creeps. But then you can see one, she's like, what? What? And he's like, what do you mean what? And she's like, you, you, call your manager. Are you harassing? He's like, I am the manager. Get off my property. And she's like, oh, oh, okay. It's just so crazy how women think they're

being harassed when they're not sometimes. That's a little too much. And I think that's like social pressure and like internet psychosis of like young kids thinking they should be a boy when they're a girl. and like a woman thinking they should be a rape victim when they're not. Like, and I'm not just saying it's only on young kids and women. Like, men obviously take on that persona-induced psychosis. I've used the word three times on the shows of our psychosis. But the phenomenon's crazy, the oversensitivity to like gender communication. A lot of girls are saying that men, which I disagree,

I think men are actually really good at holding each other to account. Like, if you're in a group of guys and there's a creeper, no one wants to hang out with him. It's like, okay, you're scaring off all the women. Like, don't be a creep. You're going to invite that guy to come with you. Right. It's like, you don't want him to come to the bar with you.

You're a creep. So actually, you know, I think men are actually pretty good at holding each other to account. But there seems to be, you know, I saw a lot of people saying that their group chat had 50 people in it. And none of the people immediately reported. Like, they were supposed to call the police and say, hey, there's a horny girl at the frat house. And women are like, how the 50 men didn't step up is. Some of the guys were asleep. It's like 4 a.m.

And they're getting accused as well. So yeah, the whole thing is crazy. I think guys in their right mind, sometimes some guys are good at keeping other guys in account. Those are usually men that are destined for leadership. But a lot of men are just like predatory animals. And I don't know what the numbers are. You know, a lot of humanity is just a bunch of plebs. Like common man, 80% of the population doesn't think beyond their first order or the third order or whatever.

But that doesn't discount what you're saying that all those guys. And like, I don't know, plus when you add alcohol, it's harder for guys to like make other dudes take account because they're not, they've destroyed their frontal cord, their low back. And also ketamine. Yeah, that'll do it. Other. That's a pretty hard drug. That's pretty intense. I didn't realize the kids are doing ketamine now. Men should keep each other in account. Yeah. I think they're better at doing that. What? I think they're good at doing that. You know, every time I've been out and there's a guy who's like being a creep. Yeah, you because it ruins it for everyone else. You don't want to be the creepy group. So. unless every guy in the group is a creep already. Yeah, right, yeah. Force each other. Sorry, Phil, you were about to, were you? I mean, the, the idea that men don't police their own, like that that is something that men have done forever.

It is true that when you get a group guys behaving badly, there's definitely tribal kind of the, you know, go along with it. But like, I mean, most, at least the dudes that I know, if there are dudes that are kind of misbehaving, they'll be like, all right, I'm out of here. I mean, I've been in personally, I've been in situations where I'm like, all right, it's time to go. You know, don't go, don't go stupid places with stupid people and do stupid things. If someone busts out cocaine, kick him out of the party. That's my advice.

Yeah, well, yeah, you know what, to that point, like all that remains has a rule. Like, that kind of stuff doesn't happen on the bus. You don't bring it on our bus. We don't want none of us do it. and no one in the band does, that kind of stuff. So it's like, don't bring it on the bus. Like, it will fall on us. We're the ones that are renting it.

We're the ones that are paying for it. So if you go off with your friends and do something that's fine, but you leave it with them or leave it somewhere else, don't bring it on the bus, you know. Drugs are bad. Don't do stupid, don't go stupid places and do stupid things with stupid people. Some drugs are bad. Some drugs are good.

Ian. Hey, some drugs are legal. Be responsible. I'm talking about, Aspirin is great. Everyone's talking about marijuana. No, you don't. Anything in the wrong dose is pretty bad. Bro, sugar in the wrong dose is bad.

Salt will kill you. Yeah. Water will kill you. But some drugs are definitely more powerful and dangerous than other drugs. I've never done ketamine. Fentanyl? I've tasted it, actually. It was very salty and I didn't like it.

I've never done fentanyl. I took ketamine. I had a dip on my, and I was like, I was super salty. I think it's a salt. I'm not sure. I don't even they do it for the taste. She's like, just do a bunch at once. I'm like, that's not how I roll, man.

I got to know what I'm getting into. Again, like when everyone's like, oh, pay off our student loans, give us student loan for you. So I'm like, why? They're getting student loans for ketamine gangbanks. I'm paying for that. It's true. It is.

I don't want to pay me your student loans. Dude, I knew people when I was 20 years ago when my friends were in college, 20 years, been a long time. I'm in Chicago and they've got tens of thousands of thousand student loans and what are they doing? They were just partying. I'd go to the bar. I'd be a Friday night and they'd be like, we're all going out to the bar, like we're like, UIC or something.

And I'd be like, oh, yeah, I'll meet up with you guys. And I'm like, I'm broke because I just work, right? And they're buying drinks like crazy. And I was just like, man, you guys like spending 100 bucks on drinks. And they're like, well, I got student loans. So I'm like, what? I knew one dude who got scammed out of five grand in the student loans because he gave it away. Oh, brutal.

I told him out to give him the money. He did anyway. And then he got scammed. I used it for living dorm expenses and like my food court. But it was only like $9,000 a semester when I was going. going in like 2000, 2000. I'm lucky that I, this is all about me right now, but I skipped the whole drinking thing until I was 23. I didn't start messing with alcohol until I was 23. So I didn't get, I didn't fall apart in college. A lot of people were just getting by because they would drink.

It was just parties, dude. I think that's, that's an interesting thing about the alcohol, because in England, obviously the drinking age is 18. So when you go to your first year of university, usually what happens if the drinking age is 18, you start like two, three years before, right? by the time you get to 21 in Europe, you're kind of moved on to like wine bars and you're not really doing the shots anymore. But the 21 year olds in this country feel like they're a little bit more immature, I think. It's kind of interesting. If you can't start drinking until you're 21, you know, maybe you have your first drink at like 19, which is crazy by 19 in England where, you know, wine and you've done all the partying. So the drinking age is interesting here.

I've always found that confusing. You keep them until 21 until you can drink. It seems kind of old. Why is it? Not that you have the answer, but in the U.S., why did they, what's the purpose? 18 is an adult, and they had the drinking age at 18, and then they raised it to 21, and car accidents declined sharply, and a lot of people didn't die because of it. So 18-year-olds make worse decisions than 21-year-olds, so you add alcohol to that and lowers inhibitions. They think they can think they're sober enough to drive. And Europe, it's a different situation because not everybody drives. In the U.S.

Everybody drives. A teenager gets a car, 18, 19, whatever. So one of the main reasons why they have the drinking age of 21, the federal government said to all the states, you have to raise the drinking age to 21. And they, hold on, hold on. And they said, no, we don't want to. And then the Fed said, well, we're going to withhold federal Department of Transportation money unless you raise the drinking age of 21.

So the federal government used the department transportation and money for roads, basically, for interstates as leverage to get the states to agree. Is it then possible that now that we have the dawning of the age of automated driving, we can lower the drinking age again? I wouldn't be surprised if when there were significantly more cars on the road that are self-driving, people talked about that. but you also have to remember we're a country that outlawed alcohol for a while. And that didn't work out so great, but we did. And I don't think that Americans' attitudes towards drinking are similar to European attitudes towards drinking. So it might happen in the future, but I don't know. We're like descendants of the Puritans, the Brownians that fled the debauchrous English, you know, in 1660 or whatever.

If you want to have drinks and stuff, I mean, it's legal, it's fine. I can't think of anything that alcohol makes better. Like, there is no, there is, but it's only a tiny bit. There is no, there is no thing that I can think of that is worse in my life because I don't drink. But alcohol, that's the problem with it, is the dose. They give you a bottle of beer. It's probably like eight doses in one bottle. You only need about an eighth of that to get the benefit from it.

And then after that, you just start to get intoxicated. I don't think that there's really any benefit from drinking. Well, they say it lowers, blood pressure. It can be really good for like hardened arteries and things. I've heard. I've heard stories about that, but I don't, I don't think that they've been, those stories have been debunked. There's, I, I don't think that there's anything that's beneficial about drinking. How long have you not been drinking for? Last time I had, last time I, I, I used to drink a lot, like, daily drinking. Wow. Drinking vodka straight, like, you know, last, but the last time I was

like regularly drinking was 2017. Wow. And I've had a handful of drinks since. So, I was going to say something awesome. Yeah. And there's nothing in my life that's worse without drinking. And I don't really have much of a problem where I was talking to the guest last night, Jeremy, about smoking cigarettes. I miss Marlboro.

Oh, interesting. I miss Marlboro's a whole lot. Do you still go to the same places? Do you go to like bars and things where you would miss drinking? Yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm in a band and I, you know, that's the kind of. You don't miss it as well. main thing and when we're on tour, no problem.

I find it, like, I've done like sober nights. Drunk people are really annoying to be around. You're the worst. So then it's like you kind of just want to get drunk just to put up with them. Bro. No, you want to tell him to get out. From the age of 16 to 23, all my friends would drink, not all of them, but drunk. I would hold dude's hairs while one guy while he was puking in the sink.

I would clean the sink for it. I was the sober guy for like seven years. But I didn't want to drink more. I was more disgusted by it the more I would watch and smell it. I was like, what are these animals doing? And they're just so dumb. Like they would disappear. And then the husk would be like having a hard time.

I'm like, bro, you were my friend 20 minutes ago. And now I don't even know, see you. The worst. Oh, God. But I'm telling you the right dose. Because if we go out after the show, I'm going to get a beer this last Fridays. And I'll get like a small, dark beer. And I'll drink like this much of it.

Like a fifth of it just to get a, like I don't want to get drunk. I don't want to feel loopy. Once it happens, then it's like, oh, I want to keep feeling this. You know, I know that. experience, but if you can just get the health, it's kind of like drinking kombucha, a little bit, you know, like a gut shot

of like vinegar or something. Not a fan of kombucha, but I mean, yeah. But I mean, look, even this situation, right? Like, this situation would be totally different if they weren't drinking. Well, that was obviously the trigger for it, right? They didn't go, they didn't open with the ketamine. They start with the drinking and then it leads

onto that. So, yeah, that's a gateway. Drinks to get loosened up. Lower your inhibitions. start doing some drugs, drink some more, really lower your inhibition. Next thing you know. Next thing you know, you're doing ketamine off of a stranger's penis.

I don't know if you guys got right off the tip. I don't know if you guys did the DARE program growing up, drug abuse resistance education. I got it since I was like in third grade in 1987 or something. But like it told me that marijuana was the gateway drug. And I believed it for 20 years. And then I realized it was alcohol. And that just society makes so much money.

off of it that it's like they won't come out and say, yo, this is the gateway drug. When you drink, you lower your inhibitions. It makes you way more susceptible. It's already changed though. Genzi aren't drinking anything like the older generations are drinking. So it's certainly changing. If you go to like college towns now, a lot of the bars are not as busy as they certainly used to be. So the whole you mentioned dare like dare is the is one of the major reasons why I never tried Coke. I thought that my heart would explode. You hear stories. Oh, dude did one line of Coke. heart exploded. I'm like, I'm touching that stuff.

A teacher tell me like if I did ecstasy, I would die. So I never did that. It was part of why I didn't drink or smoke pot until I was 23. So I guess it worked, huh? I mean, hey. They lied.

It's like sometimes lying to people is worth it because it'll get them to do the right thing and you don't need to really tell them why you're lying. Sometimes, like, I get it. Don't ask, don't tell. But like, I just felt betrayed because after I found out,

weed was so much more benign than I had been taught. And the whole, like, you know, William Randolph Hearst making it illegal with the reefer madness in the 30s, like the whole. I don't know. You're selling the weed hard. I actually disagree. I know you talk about what alcohol does to people. I see what weed does to my friends.

I think it can be pretty devastating to people. Because look, maybe you drink on a Friday night, but you go around to someone on a Wednesday morning and they're smoking weed, they're high as hell. Like, I think it's the legalization of weed is certainly causing a lot of problems for younger people. Two responses to that because I believe you is the one is dosage. If you're overdosing on anything, it's a problem, whether it's weed at 4 a.m. or whatever, it's a problem. Secondly, is they've changed weed a lot in the last 20 years. Now, the THC, there's like 32% when they used to be like six, eight. And they strips, right?

And they'll strip CBD out of the plant sometimes, which is you need it to balance. To balance the THC, you need the cannibial or CBG or you need these precursors to the healing element. that aren't psychoactive, if they strip that out just to give you a psycho dose, you know, psycho, that word is in the term psychoactive. It will make you, it can make you very psycho. That's my problem with weed is, and I don't think people have been educated about that, the changes in the potency of it. Yeah, everyone's doing the vapes now. It's not the, you know, the actual plant like it used to be. But I don't know, it's, it's certainly one of the ones that, you know, if you went to a McDonald's to get a drive-thru and everyone was drunk,

you'd be like, this is crazy, but you go, everyone's high. everyone working in these sort of jobs are completely high these days. And I think it's a big problem. Yeah, the overmedication of society in general. Because at pharmaceuticals, I see people on Adderall and shit that are like high as hell. And you just, it's kind of accepted because it's legal, but it's probably way worse. Prescribed. Yeah, right.

A doctor is not only legal. A guy told him to do it. Yeah. A trusted professional. And when the government are pushing it when like in UK there's a big push to make weed legal, but at the same time they're making. So if you're born after 2008 now, you will never. never be allowed to buy cigarettes.

Dude, what is up with that? It's crazy. But they're allowing weed. It's weird. It's like, okay, they, I don't know. I'm big on the nicotine. I think if you look at the guys who did the NASA, they're all like chain smoking, like all of them.

The smart people seem to chain smoke. But they weren't smoking weed, that's for sure. Nicotine men make good times, good times make weed dudes. Weed dudes make bad times. Bad times make nicotine men. When does ketamine guys come into that? I don't think they're just watching and wait. I don't think they're involved.

having sex outside. That's in the bad times, I think. The nicotine, it's neuroprotective. It's got a massive value. Nicotine is a met, but of course, overdosing can harm you. And smoking and anything can produce a lot of too much toxin in your lungs. But like, I think you, Carter, last night, you were saying that there's a country where there's a black market for tobacco.

Was that you? No, it was Jeremy Hambley. Oh, yeah. He must just said that. Australia. So, like, are you foreseeing something like a black market for tobacco arising if they make it? I mean, it's crazy. Like, and it's about what the government control, like they literally are bad.

banning kids from smoking. So I guess if you're born in 2007, you'll be selling, so you'll be able to buy cigarettes, but someone born, you know, on the 1st of January, won't be able to buy them ever. And this is the same thing with like drinking here. Like, I don't know anyone, I mean, that abides by the whole 21 law. Right, right. Kids still get alcohol. And there's always one guy with a fake ID that everyone goes to. So it's a black market for that too. I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it means that even when they're like in their 30s, they're not going to be allowed to buy cigarettes. What is up? What are they doing? It's, it's, as a, it's, it's, Is that how harvest the economy?

What's it? They're trying to make it illegal for people to smoke. So they're not like a tobacco rich economy, England. Like a U.S. is probably huge tobacco industry in the U.S. Look, if you go to X, right, there is no Marlboro X account. There's no Lucky Strike X account. There's no Newport X account. But there's a Philip Morris X account.

And all Philip Morris does is tweet about how they're putting themselves out of business intentionally. It is not socially accepted. to smoke here in the U.S. still. It's coming back. I see it coming back. I think that there are more people that smoke and there definitely is. So even at the VMAs, people with performers were smoking on the stage. Yeah. Cigarettes are cool again. That is true. But it's not something that society's going to, you're never going to see the Marlboro man. Well, okay, I'll tell you one thing about cigarettes. This has been my biggest disappointment with America. My favorite thing in Europe is you go to a bar, you get a drink, you have your drink, and then you go to the smoking area. And that's where you talk to

people, right? And if there's a, you know, there's a nice person you want to chat up, you do the fake thing. Have you got a lighter? I've got a lighter in my pocket. But it's a way to open conversation of people, talk to people. You don't have that here. There's, you go to a bar and you're just in that loud room the whole time. There's no chance to talk to people. The smoking area is the best place to be. It used to be they smoked indoors. I don't know if that was what it was. And that was, for me, as a non-smoker, it was pretty rough. My parents even smoked inside when I was like one. And then there was a new rule, no more smoke in the house. The cars would smell like ass. You're too young to remember smoking on airplanes, huh? Yeah. Never, never was on an air, I think I flew for the first time in 2001. It happened in England when they banned smoking inside, and then they realized that all of the

nightclubs had carpets, and they absolutely stunk. The smoke was covering the smell of like hundreds of years of alcohol in the puppets. So they were like, okay, we've got to figure this out. So smoking sections are legit. I mean, I love the smoking area. That's the best thing. I think an outdoor, you know, corral, or I think I'd love it if every place could have one, a courtyard, but some places just don't have the money for it or something. And then they, They just got a little place in New York. Every place in Europe has an outdoor terrace, a smoking area. It's great.

That's the place to be. That's how you make friends. That's where you meet people. That's the fun part of Europe. So if they want to bring cigarettes back, you all, you all make healthy ones. I know it's not super healthy to smoke anything. There is no such thing as a healthy cigarette. There is no such thing as a healthy cigarette.

American spirits are like just tobacco. If I understand correctly, at least this is what they're. They take forever to smoke. They do. They do. Yeah. I mean, well, like Marlboro's, they put stuff in them to make them burn faster, so that way you actually have to smoke more cigarettes. They have min-maxed cigarettes.

In the United States, they min-max cigarettes to the perfect level to make them ultra-addictive and also make as much money as they could. They burn faster here. They put stuff to make them more addictive. I wish that if they didn't give you cancer and emphysema and stuff like that, I would still be smoking today. Who does? No, I mean, look, no, I mean, I don't want COPD, and you're talking to a guy that misses cigarettes more than anything, right? Like, believe me, if they weren't bad for you, I know. I don't smoke, but I do like, I do like if I'm drinking, I'll have a cigarette. And it's fun. It's

it's a shareable thing. You share it with people. But yeah, my first American spirit, I'm like, halfway done. It's like, I'm like ready to be finished and it's still got like, you've had it for 45 minutes and you're like, I've got, like, what is this thing? This says American spirit, tobacco without the flavorings, humectants and other tobacco additives. It doesn't have that, but it does have other things added into the cigarettes. Like, what does it say here? Cigarette paper, obviously filters, adhesives, other manufacturing components. It also helps you to drink longer because you have a cigarette. It sort of sobs you up a little bit, brings you back, and then you're going to have another drink. Extends the night. I would do like a little bit. I actually be sponsored by Philip Morris.

Like I can have a drink. No problem. I can have maybe one or two drinks. and be like, okay, I don't want to have anymore. Tell you what, if I have a cigarette or two, that's it. I'm buying a carton. What? You do the Zin? Yeah. So that doesn't make you want a cigarette, though?

Not more than normal, no. Interesting. No. I started buying tobacco leaves just directly from, like, manufacturers. I get like a big, fresh, like, South American leave. And then I let it dry on my counter and then break it up and, like, crush it up into powder and, like, sprinkle it a little on top of a bowl of, like, weed, you know? And I do those.

My buddy called them molars is what they used to call them. But I could do that. and I never got addicted to it. I don't know why. Because I didn't smoke until I was 23 or 27 or something. I never really cigarettes, tobacco. So I never developed an addiction or just the way I'm doing it. I'd never touch only two or three times I've ever had a night where I touched those

garbage artificial ones with like, you know, all of them that the industry wants to sell you. They're all bad for you. And the ones with the garbage artificial stuff are the best. They're the best. No, no, I think pure tobacco only for health value is the best. Okay, so no cigarettes are healthy. You can eat it too. You are bringing smoke into your lungs that is not good for you.

You know what? Probably, I think you can't eat it. I used it as a spice and stew. It's very, very spicy, kind of like mint. It tastes almost like mint, but it's very, no, it tastes more like black pepper. Yeah, but I mean, what I'll do is I'll crush up and just, like, throw it in powder like pepper into the stew. Can't even, I mean, it's spicy. It is, it is a bad thing to smoke at all.

Like, it's not good for your lungs. inhaling things that like cigarette smoke or even vape stuff like vaping maybe less bad for you but it's still bad for you there is no safe cigarette there is no safe vape that being said the ones that are the worst are the ones that are the best oh you mean like the most enjoyable marlboro reds are the best i don't really i do i smoked cold did you ever get that feeling where like it just felt like cold in your lungs after because it's like kills all the sensitivity No. It's like the menthol ones.

Those will do that. I smoked for like 30 years, dude. How many were you doing a day? I'd smoke a pack a day. Wow. Of reds? Yeah. Wow.

I heard that during COVID, people that had been smoking actually weren't getting hit as hard. Yes. It was doing something in their lungs to prevent the COVID, whatever, the virus to get into. That's your one good thing about smoking then. Well, I mean, aside from it's awesome. You know, you look cool. It's awesome. Yeah, but it's terrible with your health.

I think the weed, I don't mind as much because you smoke it and then you're high for like two or three hours. With cigarettes, it's like six minutes or eight minutes. And then like, I'm like, oh, the buzz is gone. Now I feel a little weird. But with weed, it's like one and done, baby. I get to work. I mean, you know, I never felt weird after smoking a cigarette. Like you get it, you would get like a little bit of a like a little bit of a rush or whatever.

But like after that, it wasn't like, oh, I'm coming down off my cigarette. The only coming down was I want another cigarette. Yeah. You know, and that was easily rectified by going and having another awesome cigarette. Did you ever do nicotine patches? Did those, yeah. Do you like, I don't know. They would, they would, they would, they would, they would, they would, they would, they would, they would, they would end up putting them on would hit.

Like between the, not. Wait, where do you put them? The place. The arm, I would put them on. I would tend to, I would end up putting them on my calf. Okay. because the arm you move around a lot, whereas the calf doesn't have the same kind of,

it doesn't move as much as like your upper shoulder or whatever. So I put them on my calf, but they would itch uncontrollably. They would hate them. So, so you're suede them with water or something after? They worked. I think you guys are having too much fun,

so we're going to go to this story from the Atlantic. The supporters urging Trump declare martial law for the midterms. It's not really a story. There's prominent Trump supporters, people that he's done for a long time that are going on stage, saying if Trump does not declare martial law, we're going to lose and everyone's going to prison. But the media sure is running with it. So should Trump declare martial law to control?

What they say is to prevent fraud. He shouldn't. But a lot of people are going to go to jail. Like all of the, all of the, if the, if the, if the Republicans don't control the house, all the committees and the assignments and stuff are going to change, you're going to see a of Democrats on a lot of committees and they're going to cause they're going to be all kinds of investigations they're going to bring people before Congress and and accusing them of any number of crimes like supporting conservative supporting Donald Trump you know agreeing with his policies

things of that nature so remember like two years ago and I was like we got to stop all of the political tit for tat because one side does it the other than the other side and people nobody really like said hey you're a stupid idiot, but people were kind of like, no, you know, we got to go after him when you have the power, because they're going to do it. I think you actually, they're going to do it anyway. You might as well use it. Was, can you admit now I was right? That the ping pong is going to get knocked back in the other direction now and it's going to be now the Republicans are going to get persecuted and then it's going to get knocked back in 2032 and it's

going to get the Democrats. Hold on, hold on. There have been no political persecutions of Democrats. Comey. What happened? I don't know. They drug them through the ring or they, the process is the punishment. They went after him for putting a picture online saying 86. He is, he has done, there were no political persecutions of anyone. Comey, like nothing happened for Comey. I don't even think that he actually went in front of Congress. And the things that are going to happen should the Democrats win the midterms are going to prove me right. The Republicans have done nothing. That's one of the, one of the reasons why people are so upset with the Trump administration is because there was no accountability for what they for the steel dossier there was no accountability for all

the attacks on of j or the the putting people from january sixth in prison people that did nothing wrong there was no accountability for any of the stuff that happened during covid there was no accountability that's one of the major complaints that people have is the republicans haven't done anything we've talked about it on this show multiple times the republicans have power and they sit on their hands the republicans don't do anything et cetera et cetera so what you're you prescribed is what has happened. No. Yeah. No, because the Comey thing really pissed a lot of people.

So look, you're talking about one... But about Jack Smith. Didn't they go after Jack Smith for stuff? No. Leticia James, didn't they go after her for something? No, they didn't go after her. Mortgage fraud. Yeah, more, they went after Latisha James from. And she went anywhere. Trump's enemies, you know. But she did that. But she did that. But it was like the people that pissed Trump off got investigated, you know.

But you're talking about a few instances where there was likely criminal behavior. I'm talking about like people that were at the Capitol that didn't even go inside, right? Trump was horrible. All that stuff, the Biden administration, it was horrible. Trump pardoned them. And so then the Republicans did nothing to punish the people that actually used the power of government against those people. One of them, again, one of the major arguments that people have about the Trump administration is he's done nothing to go after the Democrats. That's one of the reasons why people, why Republicans don't want to go out and vote for Republicans in the midterms.

So I'm not trying to be a jerk here, but your prescription has been attempted. No, I don't agree. Not completely. It's like, it's like saying my prescription is fasting and you're like, yeah, but I had a donut earlier. So you're saying that any kind of prosecution of a Democrat, whether there is likely a violation of the law or not, has to be completely off the table or else your prescription hasn't been. I'm saying equal justice. So like, yeah, Comey put 8647, but like if Pete Hagseth had posted it, equal, equal. Democrats put a guy in prison, Douglas Mackey, for posting memes.

But I'm not saying because they're bad, we should be worse. I'm not saying because they're bad, we can be as bad as them. I'm saying, look, don't do the bad thing. Yeah, and the Republicans have done significantly less with the power that they have than the Democrats did prior to Donald Trump returning to power, and you're going to see that they're going to do significantly more when they get back in power. The idea that you can stop people from exercising power by not exercising power over them is wrong. Except you can use it as justification with the masses.

You can say, look, we opted not to execute, and now they're coming into power. We expect the same thing. And then the rest of society can be like, yes, Yes, we support that righteous momentum. That is not going to happen. It can happen. I didn't say can. It's going to be so bad.

I didn't say whether it could or it's possible. I'm saying that it is not going to happen. The Democrats have already made it clear that they're going to do these things. They've already, they've been campaigning on him. Letitia James is doing the same kind of thing now that she was doing before. That she did against Trump. She's already decided that the Cornell 7 are guilty. this is this is absolutely the case they are going to do things like pull normal people before congress

and do whatever they can to not just hamstring the administration but to use the power of government against people that supported Donald Trump you may be right you know the future's unwritten but it's without the moral argument of like look we didn't do it you you have no moral justification for continuing these witch hunts. Instead, you say, no, well, the Trump administration did do it a little bit. So I guess. I don't think that, first of all, I reject the idea that the Trump administration did do it. The Comey thing was insane.

Total free speech. I still reject the idea that the Trump administration did it, the way that you're describing, right? But that doesn't change the fact that the Democrats are going to do it significantly more than the Republicans did. even if we grant your argument and say, okay, they did go, they overstepped when it came to Comey, right? That doesn't change the fact that the Democrats are going to be going after way more people than just a handful of people. They're going to be doing everything they can to ensure that they remain in power, put people that supported Donald Trump out of jobs, make sure that if they can, they'll put them in prison. This is absolutely going to be going to happen. I think they come for Ian first.

I don't think that you're done. Democrats are a mindless monolithic mob. The people can, if they see righteousness done, some people will identify that. Totally disagree with you. Okay, you think a giant, how many, 200 million, 150 million people all think the same thing? I think about 100 million. You think 100 million people think the same thing. There are seven guys.

That is not a healthy way to live, bro. There are seven guys who are now facing criminal prosecution despite being victims. because a mob demanded it. Yeah, I know. Yeah, yeah. They will just be mindless mobs, yes. Yeah, but 100 million people are not all thinking the same thing. And then you flip one switch and all 100 million of them then change their idea to a new thing.

That's not how it works. That's exactly what happened during COVID. It's not what's been happening since COVID. Literally. Yes, literally. No, you get pockets of people one day and then they think something later on the day. Two masking happened overnight. Fauci was on TV and says you don't need to be wearing two masks.

A day later, someone asked him, yeah, but wouldn't two masks be beneficial? He was like, well, I guess. And then instantly they put up double masking policies everywhere. And people were like, you better wear your mask. Even conservatives said not to wear, conservatives when COVID first broke out, told everybody to wear masks. Fouch said, don't. And so conservatives were doing it.

Liberals were not. Literally in the span of one week, they flipped positions. And even if it's 100 million people, that's less than a third of the country. A third of the country would be 110 million. You maybe got three. Hold on. There's 330 million Americans. So if you have 100 million people, that's less than a third.

So that's not an everybody thing. It's a large portion, but it doesn't mean that it doesn't mean that it's still a significant portion of the population. And yes, a hundred million people can absolutely think the exact same. No, not the exact. They can think in similar directions, but realistically, maybe pockets of like, 30 or 40,000 people might think 98% of the same stuff about something? I think that you're misjudging

the number of people that are very conformist. I think that you're not, you don't understand how malleable people's minds are based on what they see and hear. Because if you behave a certain way, it sends out ripples and people change. But I'm still saying that most remember what I'm saying is

most people don't think the same as that group. Right? You're talking about 230 And 30 million people that if in your scenario a hundred million people think the same I'm just I mean 200 people identify as So just just for easy numbers a hundred million people think the same and they're a minority because there's still two hundred and thirty million people People that would disagree with them. Yeah, but I don't think they I'm not saying they think the same I don't think that many you ever get that many people thinking and maybe we're misusing that we have different definitions of what the same means I mean literally the same it's not not not or close nearing the same which is Very unrealistic. Close enough where they would approve

of using the government to punish their political opponents. Maybe. But like Tim said, they get a directive one morning on the TV and then they all put on their, their don't punish people masks. And then like,

they're not going to get that directive. Yeah, but it can happen. It can. That's why you got to be righteous when you act as a leader. That, well, okay, that is not going to happen either. But just saying it's not,

is like, that's, that's, It's an unfair way to categorize the future. You're arguing for potential outcomes. It's believing them when they say what they're going to do. Like I am listening to, I listen to the things that Democrats say that they want to do, and I believe that they want to do the things that they say they want to do. And you probably listened to a thousand of them, maybe less.

People in positions of power. Those are the people of consequence, the people that will be in positions, that it will have the power to do the things they want. They don't speak for the masses that have malleable minds. They don't speak for the people that you can, I used to be a Democrat. Now I'm unaffiliated.

Like, I'm not, if you do wrong, I'll do that. Instead, I'm not going to follow. Like, there are many, many people that are good, intelligent people that identify as Democrats that when they see things being done right in the Republican Party, they identify, they agree with it. And they're like, wow, that's actually a good thing. What's going on here?

and but if they if the republicans just play the villain that they're supposed to play because it's going to have they and you're saying that the comie thing makes them the villain enough to say you know what we need to make sure that that we do everything we can to make sure that republicans cannot be in positions of power again i thought it looked really bad because it's like saying yeah we're going to be we're going to be we're going to be good we're going to be good stuff just get him like i can't is it is it enough is it enough is it enough he's still that guy is it enough is it enough is it enough to crossed the line into saying, well, they went after Comey, so we're going to go after as many Republicans as well. I don't think retribution is a good argument for the sake of recital.

Retribution, you mean revenge? Yeah. Because retribution is different. Okay. Maybe it's definitely not revenge. I don't think revenges are a good, a good way to lead. Uh, I don't think retribution is either. What, give me the exact. Yeah, we should pull this up and look at the difference because Retribution is a deserved, severe punishment given us payback for a wrong or criminal act. Wow. I think the difference is that retribution is considered to be deserved. Yeah. And revenge could be deserved it or not.

Exactly. Right. Revenge is just, you wronged me, I'll wrong you back. So retribution will be a type of revenge. Yes. You know. Retribution is more likely associated with an individual saying like, that criminal did something bad and we will have retribution. Revenge is like, you stole my PlayStation, so I'm going to break in your house and

steal yours? Like just two bad dudes. Or famously Elliot Rogers Day of Retribution. Well, that's not real retribution at all. I don't know anything about that. Oh, it's a bunch of women? Yeah, but he was the, oh, he called it Retribution. Yeah, he was bizarre. Yeah, right. People will use the term retribution to fit, fuel their own games. Revenge is the act of hurting or punishing someone in return for a wrong or injury they have caused you. And it's so retribution is a type of revenge. Yeah. Typically it's considered to be deserved it. It seemed like Trump was trying to exact revenge on James Comey the way they went so hard for him putting up a picture, a meme that other people had posted. Well, I mean, it wasn't just a picture or a meme. The argument was this is a call to violence

against the president. Now, you can disagree and say, no, I don't think it was. But that's what the argument was. And considering it's a sitting president and the idea of a call to violence against the president is an actual crime, what they were arguing, what James Comey was saying was, No, it was not. I'm saying throw him out. And they're saying, no, there's already been multiple attempts on the president's life. So this is actually endorsing violence against the president. If I put up a meme of James Comey with a ball gag in his mouth bent over and then like the

gimp in the background from Pulp Fiction coming out, I'm not like encouraging people to go gang rape James Comey. It's just a funny meme. Like that's not a call to violence. Yeah, but the 8647 isn't a funny meme. The 8647 is saying... Eight miles out and six feet under. Yeah.

It's saying that Donald Trump, and again, this is the argument that the government was making, it's saying that he is endorsing the murder of the president. I would love to hear your take on this because I don't know. Well, I mean, yeah, look, I hear what you're saying, but I think you're thinking of the world in a much nicer way than it is. And I think that with the James Comey thing, I think the importance, as you said, if you'd have posted it would be different. This is the former director of the FBI. Like, it's who is posting it is the difficult part. I think he shouldn't be doing those

sorts of things. But look, it's scary if the Democrats get in. I think, you know, you guys are thinking of America. Of course, I'm looking at it from a global situation. I think the world is moving to a centralized system. The fact that the president won at the last election is the one barrier. If you look at all the countries, the Western countries, they're all falling under the same thing, whether it's open borders, left-wing governments. You guys are the outlier. You're the only one still standing. And, you know, if they can get in this time and if they can get the next presidency, I think America's going to fall in line with the rest of the world and we're going to move much closer to a global system, which I think is very bad for the world.

Like a technocracy? Yeah. I mean, look, if you look at Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the UK, all of them, they basically have the same system. They're ruled by the same sorts of people. they're the same laws. All the laws are the same now. You guys, that's exactly what would have happened here if Camilla Harris had won. She was totally in line with those people. You know, Obama is out in the UK all the time. That's what they want for America. They want to get rid of the free speech. They want to have the open borders. They've got to flood the country with these people because they keep losing. They need more people. They need 100 million people that are going to vote for them. If you think the border was open under Biden, I think if you get a Democratic president of the next

election, I think it's going to be, it'll be really, it'll be insane. And then I don't think you'll ever get a Republican win again. That's the scariest part about it. I don't have a control group to do the study to know what would have happened if Trump hadn't persecuted, well, whatever you want to call it, went after Jim's... Persecuted? Jim's Comey. There were two different cases, right?

There was lying to Congress, which was thrown out. That was about the testimony about for the Russia investigation, the Crossfire Hurricane. And then there was the 86-47 one. That one has been pushed to next year. Right. So the argument is, like I said, the Trump administration is arguing that it was a call to violence and considering the multiple attempts on the president of life. Remember, there have been three assassination attempts. There was Butler, there was the guy that was by his golf course, and then there was the one at the correspondence dinner. Dude tried to run into the correspondence dinner. So the correspondence dinner one was after the James Comey, after he put up the meme. I was at that dinner, actually.

Oh, really? Was it crazy? What was your experience like there? It was, yeah, it was weird. I mean, I was with a bunch of White House friends, so I managed to get out of the lockdown, which was good, because they were kept in there for like six, seven hours. Oof. People were stuck in there, so. But it was crazy, you know, and it's weird to think that, you know, that was how close it came. You know, like, I see the videos where he ran. That was the bar that we were standing at, and he literally was right there. But it was weird. I mean, hey, we went into the dinner, no security, didn't go through any, you know, scanners. or anything. It was very, very strange, the setup that they allowed that to happen, you know. Dude, you served with Boris Johnson? You were like his, what did you do with him?

I had a company. We ran all of his social media video content. When you got into it, were you aware of the liberal economic order, this like, you know, the, what you were saying earlier, this unified mine state, you know, I think it comes out of Switzerland with the Bank for International Settlements and they're feeding the Bank of London, the Bank, the Federal Reserve, and they're kind of... It's the natural progression of where things go. Did you know that when you were getting involved with Boris? Or did you find out along the way? Because you said you were feeling different things now about it.

Yeah, no, we didn't. And now we talk about the Boris wave, which was we were letting in. He actually led in. So we had Brexit, which, you know, people voted because they were sick of immigration. And they were mad at like Polish immigrants. That was the, we used to be the butt of the joke in England. There were too many Polish immigrants now. We'd like die for some Polish immigrants.

So they swapped that out and brought in the third world, I think, to probably punish the UK for voting for Brexit. leaving the EU because look, that's what was happening. The EU is this massive organization and it was expanding rapidly. Now Canada is now talking about doing a sort of like backdoor deal with the Europeans. I don't know. It's certainly the separation of nation states is is moving away. Everyone's moving closer together. So we'll see what happens. Did technology change while you were working with Boris and that kind of opened your opinions? I left during COVID because I didn't like the COVID stuff. I came here. I came to the land of the free because there was no freedom. You'd get arrested if you left the house more than once a day.

And that's the most interesting thing. If you look at COVID, I think there's an argument that they brought, if you believe that it was a whole conspiracy, they maybe brought it a little bit too soon here, maybe because they wanted to get rid of Trump and all of this. And it didn't work, right? It worked in Europe. It worked very well in Europe. They have mass surveillance. They have facial recognition, but they could see if you left the house more than once a day. You would get fined. You would get arrested if you kept doing it. So what are they doing now? Flot cameras are now? in this country, right? They are figuring out what went wrong last time, bringing in, so now

you're going to have your flock cameras all over the place. If they do this again, it will work. It didn't work the first time. If they do it again, it will work. You will have massive lockdowns in this country. There's trying to. There's a huge outcry about flock in the last month or so. They tried to lock down this country and they couldn't. What happened? The red states, you know, didn't play ball. So now they're going to flood the Texas and Florida and all these red states with millions of people from the third world that will vote Democrat and will do as they're told. They have now the surveillance to implement lockdowns. You know, what happened?

People were leaving the blue states to go down to the red states. Well, now you've got the recognition of right. They can stop the cars. They're fixing the problems that made COVID not work last time. And that's scary for the United States. Yeah, wow. What's your future motive right now, like your six-month, eight-month focus? I literally don't know what's going to happen tomorrow.

Like, the world is like that right now. We have no idea. I mean, this whole situation with the, I'm sure, you covered it. The attempted bombing of the U.S. base in the UK was very, very strange. If they had succeeded with that, you probably would have had a massive response from the Americans. You probably would have done some major bombing of Iran. Everything could have changed. That got foiled, and we're in this timeline now. So I literally have no idea. It's crazy. No one knows what's going to happen. What was the bombing? This is the first I've heard of it. These Iranian-backed cell tried to

blow up the U.S. base in the UK, where all your bombers are that are bombing Iran. And they got some little old lady drunk driving coming home from a party, called it in and was like, hey, there's like 10 guys in the bushes outside your American base. I'm not sure they should be there. And they all got arrested. And then of course, the British state was. Actually, they arrested the old lady for being offensive towards these poor Iranian men. They called that she was a racist. Were you gang? She bang by those guys? Right. It's off the table. So yeah, little old lady saved the day. But like, yeah, if that had happened, I think if you're, if they'd have got in and blown up like four of your B1 bombers, yeah, you guys would have like unleashed hell on Iran and that we'd be in a very different

timeline right now. So it's, uh, who knows, we don't know what's going to happen. A lot of terrorists talk recently. We had the one, the plane terror nearly got happened. There's a lot of terrorism talk right now. It's, it's quite scary. Yeah, I thought of that when full scale, ground war in Iran soon. I don't know if it would have been that, but I think you would have like bombed the shit out of them. But so the people who believe it's a false flag, obviously also conspiracies believe it's a predictive program. in a sense. Not the same thing. Predative programming is when a movie comes out where it's like terror attack and then it happens and everyone expects it. But you get this failed thing on the plane

in Tel Aviv. You get the Iranian thing. Now if two months later, there's a major terror attack from Iran, they're going to be like, see? And everyone's going to go, oh yeah. Yeah. So we'll see. Yeah, we don't know. And of course, the British government released them, of course, immediately and put them on bail. Meanwhile, if you tweet something in England, good luck getting out on bail. But if you're a terrorist backed by Iran, yeah, they'll let you out the next day. Why did they let them out? because they don't want to admit that we've got a problem with these sorts of people. You know, they were furious when the picture came out.

And of course, they were not right-wing conservatives. They were really wanting to blame it on the far right. Is it? And maybe you don't know the answer to this. I'm kind of leading the question. But like, is it that the king's just done with the U.S.? He's pissed off at the way Trump's been controlling and he's just subtly allowing Trump to try and... Well, we, I mean, if you look, so I don't know if you guys saw the video,

but the prime minister of England now is a hardcore socialist. He just end his party conference by singing the socialist national anthem that's like this red march song that is just insane that they're literally all singing this on the stage waving like red flags. They're proud socialists. And look, that's the DSA. That's what's coming. It's the exact same party. That's who is taking over the Republican Party. That'll be who is going to be backing whether they make it to the presidency.

They'll probably get vice president. They're going to get a lot of politicians. You're going to get your first Muslim senator up in Michigan. That might be taking over his DSA. But like, the king's got to be involved or at least happy with what's going on. The king's an idiot. The king's irrelevant. It's totally darned.

If I was a king and I had an embassy of my closest allies and a foreign nation tried to bomb it, I would come down so hard on them. Yeah, but you'd be a better king than him. He's not really a king. He's kind of just, he's just a, I mean, they're totally in with the Davos, the globalist agenda. They're all in on the green energy. You know, they'd rather build solar and do all these wind farms. than actually invest anything. We just found out the UK, our airport,

Heathrow Airport, it's the busiest airport in the world. It needs a new runway. And they've said, well, we'll make the decision in 2039. It's just, it's so England's so done. Solar in England is an interesting choice. Because it doesn't work. It never works. But they love it.

And they put big wind farms. And of course, they put them off the coast of where the president's golf courses is, which really upset him. But, like, look, I always say, and Americans always come to me and they say, oh, it's so sad what happened in Europe. and like, I can't believe it happened. And I'm like, dude, that's exactly where you're heading.

You guys didn't see this. Like, that's exactly what is going to happen here. We see it. Right, right. But it's the path that you're on. And if they get power, which is looking like they're going to, it's good luck. I mean, they already got rid of free speech in COVID. Free speech was gone in this country during COVID.

And only because the president. Yes. Only because the president came in and beat Kamala Harris did that get reversed. And because Elon took over X. They almost got rid of ending free. speech in this country. So it was really close. If Kamala had won, you guys would probably be in the same situation as the UK. Like everyone seems to have forgotten. Remember they were flying migrants from the Texas border to a hotel in New York City, giving them the credit cards and the

phones and everyone says to me, I can't believe migrants in England get free hotels. They would do it. The Democrats were doing that. It's not a European thing. It's not an English issue. It's a globalist issue. Yeah, I think they want to make, they want to center everything around China because the Chinese political system is total control. So if you're a globalist, you're like, look, the United States, the people can fight back. It sucks. In China, they can't fight back. And they can even own land. Let's center global hegemony in China where nobody can fight back. Yeah. And England is totally in bed with China. Now they just approve this massive super embassy in London. It's the biggest embassy in the world. It's stupid. They seem to think they can

replace their American partnership with Chinese partnership. Well, I'm going to let everybody under a secret. We have a class system in the United States very, very easily. The idea of the United States and our financial system, the Federal Reserve and all of that, it serves one purpose. If you are smart enough, you don't have to work. That's it. Unfortunately, it's also got to the point where if you're unscrupulous enough, you don't have to work, which is a problem. But the machine does go after people who break the rules, like the Tates, for instance. Now, by all means, you can say that the Tates are guilty and they all this thing. The point is, they ain't going after the Epstein people. They're going to the Tates, because in this system, the Tate brothers

weren't supposed to be wealthy. The way the system works is, right now, I think we're at what, 4.25% interest rates. Now, why is it that the interest rates are basically universal? Why is that if you want to own a home, you got to pay a premium 4.25 on that loan? If you're rich, we just give it to you.

If you put money in the bank, and here's the way it works. It works for everybody. You put $100 in the bank, you can get a 3.6 or 4%. In fact, X right now is a 6% APY, if you have direct deposit. Now, if you're poor, is that 6% really helping?

Not really. But what if you have $10 million and you're getting 6%? Congratulations, you never have to work again. That what is that? $6 million a year? $600,000. $600,000 a year. You just live off of it.

If you have $10 million in cash and you put it into a 6% savings, like with X, you will make $600,000 per year doing nothing. Wow. That is the classism of the United States. That at a certain point, you are just rich forever. and everyone else struggles and has to work really, really hard. That system they built. We also had USAID, which was the political class, where once you were in the club, you never had to work again.

They funneled money to you from the people, from their savings, not necessarily through taxes, but through inflationary policies. And you never had to work. But the poor people did. And the whole point of our political system was to manage the expectations of the poor so they don't go crazy. That's why the Democrats will just arrest these seven guys. So long as the masses, don't go crazy, we don't care because we don't have to work. That's the system. And USAID was funding a lot of things in Europe.

It's crazy. There was a politician, Rory Stewart, in the UK. And he totally let them off the slip. He was complaining when Trump canceled USAID because his wife lost a million dollars a year and her salary. And then I was like, wait, sorry, why is the American taxpayer giving your wife a million dollars a year? So yeah, they were funding all of these NGOs and these globalist organizations. So that has, I think that's probably one of the most impactful policies he's done is, um, take away USAID. That's changed a lot of things, particularly in the UK, particularly in

European places. The money was insane. Well, people need to understand. I see, I see what the black AR said, Andrew Tate got rich too fast and started talking Manosphere talking points. The media and powers that be don't like that. But, uh, cryptocurrency. Wait, say that again. What about? The Tate's got, uh, I think the Tates first got rich off of cryptocurrency. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Thomas is running out. He's going to go do a TV hit right now. So he'll be back in a second. But when I told him, I was like, we should do the TV hit live from the show.

That'd be cool. What's he doing? He's newsmex. But it was like at the last minute too hard while he was doing it, they could see him go. Yeah, they could see him sitting here and be like, how's it going? And then just do the hit, it's five minutes. And then we just, we all be quiet. Because you can have them do that.

It's not set up for it. Yeah, yeah. I was like, if we had a few hours more, we could have set that up. That's cool. But he'll bounce back in a second. So what I mean is the crypto stuff got people rich, but they weren't supposed to get rich. Yeah. I think about my buddy in 2012, Robert, YouTuber.

We were sitting at his friend's apartment in North Manhattan, and he was smoking a cigar. We were playing poker. And he was like, you know anything about Bitcoin? I was like, no. He's like, what year? 2012, maybe or 11? And I was like, what is it? He's like, you write it down a piece of paper and it's money.

I was like, what happens if you lose it? He's like, then it's gone. And he's like, and I was like, huh? It was like two cents. They were two cents each or something. No, no, no, not in 2012. It was 2011. It was 2011.

It was March of 2011. I think it was or $2. That's like, yeah, mid-2011, it was like $3. Yeah, it was like $3. I got my first Bitcoin at 70 cents. You got, you heard about it. Oh, you had it? I got my, I had 21 Bitcoin at 70 cents.

But anyway, that guy disappeared. Not like disappeared. I just, he once crypto went up to $17,000, I never heard from again. He probably sold it and is now a trillion there living on an island. I don't know. There were a bunch of crypto people. that have been arrested, imprisoned, and seemingly for no reason. But the reason is fairly obvious. Crypto emerged rather as a surprise to a lot of people. And a bunch of people who probably shouldn't

have influence, got a lot of influence. So if you're the Davos group, if you're the World Economic Forum, if you're the IMF, if you're the liberal economic order, you don't care when people start getting rich through the rules you've created because you're watching them. And every step of the way, you're like, ban them from YouTube. Now he's not rich anymore, right? But if a dude does crypto, they're outside your system. And all of a sudden, you're like, that dude can now fund a bunch of crazy stuff and upend our plans get rid of him. Yeah, they built ripple for that reason, I think, to try to supplant Bitcoin.

That was like the big banks. XRP. What's that? XRP. XRP. It's the big banking crypto. They want to make Ripple the unified. But it's just Bitcoin so entrenched right now.

And it might be a CIA op. I don't know. Satashi Nakamoto means, doesn't it mean CIA? It means intelligence. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Satashi Nakamoto means Central Intelligence Agency. It's pretty close.

What the... Well, because it's translated from Japanese. So it means like agency of Central Intelligence to something. We talked about it on this show like a year ago. Yeah, it means intelligent. Satoshi is intelligent.

Why central origin or clear thinking foundation? And Nakamoto is middle. So it's intelligent inside, intelligent middle. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it can translate to central intelligence agency. Good Lord. Do you think that's like an accident or like a different translation? Because in Japanese would be different way of like maybe just an organized place to put everything intelligently. Yes, the central intelligence origin.

I think that it might be CIA. Satoshi is commonly interpreted as wise, intelligent, or clear thinking. Nakamoto is a surname meaning central origin, middle base, or root. intelligent central origin. I mean, good Lord. Humans are known to kind of put it right in your face and be like, you can't prove it. What do you want?

Here's the thing. The Tates were doing like meme coins and stuff. They did really, really well with crypto. I don't know the full story. I've just heard some of the stuff. They've posted. I remember watching them on the couch and they're like, we got a coin.

And then Andrew would burn a bunch of the coins to pump the value up and stuff like that. Aren't a lot of people doing that? Yeah, but they made insane money and got tons of influence. So I think the reason they're going up to them is, look, by all means, I don't know, these accusations, they've tried several times and they've kept, they fail all the time. But I'm not trying to get into that. The point is, even if that were true, they ain't going after the Epstein people. There was a club and you ain't in it.

And if the Tates are guilty of what they're accused of, it's obvious who's in the club because there are people who aren't being arrested for the stuff they did. It's interesting to think of the crypto millionaires, billionaires, trillionaires, I don't know how deep it goes as being outside the system. I wonder if they're co-opting that crypto system because it's so easy to become a tracking central. Maybe the whole time it was supposed to be an op to make it look like it was outside the club. And they got all these crypto billionaires that think they're safe. But as soon as you use cryptocurrency to crack the proof of work. I had 21 Bitcoin on a computer.

And then the computer got destroyed in a fire. And I was like, I don't know, it was like 18 bucks. is it The computer was worth more The computer was a thousand bucks I was pissed Oh I just got a new computer by that Now that's like 1.8 million or something

I'm gonna start training AI on my new computer 1.7 million Right now Bitcoin is one second 86? Like 84 I think Yeah Up and down up and down

What's the plan? What do you mean? Sell it sell it Go into cash I just hold on to it Reinvest in No Bits because like computers will come out

There'll be 4,000 And then in three weeks They go up to 7,000 because... Bitcoin is the IMF. So I went to Davos in, I think it was like 2018 or I met him in 2017, 2017, I think. And the whole theme of Davos was crypto. And so I didn't go to the actual WEF.

I was outside because in Davos, they have a bunch of parties around. So there's like ski resorts everywhere. You can just go, get a hotel and hang out. And there's politicians everywhere. There's world leaders. I went to a bar. Tons of people worked for. government. There was one individual that I talked to who was, I'll keep it relatively vague.

Let's just say a royal family. And they were like, the plan is that the global reserve is going to be Bitcoin. What year was that? This was 2017, I think. And then in 2018, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You're ready for the best part? I filmed three vlogs from Davos. They're all gone. Are they really? Do you still have them somewhere? Nope. Oh, dang. YouTube took them down. What? Yep. Somebody made a phone call. I went to Davos and I was filming daily vlogs at the time. This was back when my Timcast channel was daily vlogs. And I think it was like January of 2017.

I'm not sure. One day I was looking back because we had talked about it on this show and I was like, oh, I want to find that interview I did where we talked about how the Davos group, they want Bitcoin. And then I went to my channel and there's three days missing. The videos are just gone. Dang. No notifications, nothing.

Just they're gone. I notice. One of the videos was titled Bitcoin is the new global currency. Oh, shit. Yeah. At the end of, it was either at the end of 2017 or 2018, when Trump decided we're going to start taxing your crypto sales. It didn't happen up until 2018. And then the U.S. was like, we're going to get a grip on this.

But for the eight years preceding, it was the Wild West. If you went from two cents per bit Bitcoin, you had 100,000 of them. Then it went up to 17 grand. Bro, you just made a hundred, like a billion dollars and not taxed at all, completely off the, like. And then, so maybe that. I didn't realize it was taxed. That whole coming up on the world currency thing, it happened. after you went to Davos is when Trump made it a taxable event.

So maybe that's a form of collusion with the process. I don't know. It was just a, Trump had Trump. Actually, I don't think Trump was in office yet. Well, it was January of 2017. Oh, yeah, yeah. It was before Trump did that. Trump did that in like 18.

18, I have to imagine that like these elites hate me so much. But I'm not like, you know, it's like if you walk into a room and there's like a coyote, you're like, oh, what the hell's a coyote doing it? You got to call the police. Like deal with it. That's like Andrew Tate. I'm probably more like a housefly where I'm like buzzing around the room the whole time. And they're like, I cannot stand Tim Poole.

But there's not enough to be like swat him. You know what I mean? Yeah. I think they think, okay, this guy's a risk. But as long as he doesn't cause a revolution, we're okay. Yeah, they don't like me. They accuse me of being all sorts of things. You know what I mean?

Yeah. Of course they do. But it's like, if it was like, if this was an Andrew Tate level threat, they'd be like, just shut him down and ban him and arrest them. Yeah, because you're not doing it. anything wrong. And in fact, what we do kind of... Well, that's not the question. The question of whether something wrong doesn't... You're not doing anything that violates their workflow. Like, we're actually helping the global order consolidate around AI and a

technologist. I think it's more neutral. I'm neutral. I'm sort of... I think this show is fairly moderate in those respects. Like, we don't scream for or against AI. We're like kind of middle the road. We're doom around sometimes. We like it and sometimes. So they're like, I imagine they're looking at us like, these guys are so annoying. Bro, I've been thinking about world order. You know what I mean? It's a fly. It's like it's not going to sting you. You know, it's not going to ruin your plans, but it's just stop. You know what I mean?

So sometimes they screw with us. Yeah, like don't fly in their face because you might get smacked. That's right. You just hang out in the other area of the room. No one's going to say. It's actually a really good metaphor for that. Yeah. All right.

We're going to grab some questions from the members over here. So if you guys have any questions you want to get in, get them in now. We're going to pull them in. In the meantime, we'll talk about how, uh, You know, I wonder if actually just world leaders are losing. Like, 2017, these people that were all like, yeah, Bitcoin's going to be it, are they still even in power after Trump came in for second term? I don't know. I think national leadership is struggling.

The whole, the plan to move away from nationalism to globalism. Like, they really seems like these corporate, the people that want to corporate governance want to disempower national governance so that we then give in to the corporate influence and authority. So I'm not, I wouldn't be surprised if world. leaders are struggling intentionally because their banks are getting blown up by the Swiss bank because they want control corporate. No, those are the global elites. Which ones? Who are?

Those countries. The leaders of the countries? Like I'm saying, dude, like we live in a country. Every Western country has this system. I mean, it's the global economic system. The idea likely was, let's make it so that if you're smart enough, you don't have to work and you can do whatever you want, right? Think about it this way.

If you were like, you've all know Harari, right? And then they let you into the club. No, no, no, no, no. The smart people are the risks if they're not getting invited in. Listen, listen. Okay. So you've all know a Harari, right? The useless eaters.

We understand in biology the weak have to die and the strong have to survive. If too many weak organisms accumulate, then you'll get degeneracy, struggling, starvation, disease, et cetera. So we know that you can't feed wild animals. They become dependent. And then it ruins the ecosystem. kill them. We know you need ecosystem balanced. So what kind of system would you build? They'd build this. They'd say, okay, if you're smart enough to get a million bucks, congratulations, you're getting

$60,000 a year. You only need $2 million. I'm not saying it's easy to get, but you get two million bucks, you're going to get right now $120,000 a year. Isn't that crazy? That's higher than the GDP. They built a system where they're like, you don't have to be a peasant if you have the ability to get to this level. Yeah, and I would even, I would augment that. Instead of it's like if you're strong enough, you're going to succeed and if you're weak, you're going to fail just like in biology. It's if you can adapt, you will survive and thrive. If you cannot adapt to the system, you will fail.

The attitude is this. It's Darwinian. We want the smartest people to be free to do whatever they can. And that decentralized market output will create big things. What we don't want is a bunch of stupid people burning everything down. So look at the system that they built. People who are not capable, they use as peasant labor. I'm not saying this to be mean to people who are working class.

This is how they see you. You will have to work your fingers of the bone every day for the rest of your life because you aren't smart off to escape the machine. All we ask is that you don't burn the system down. So what do they do? Left foot, right foot, back and forth. Democrat, Republican. Republicans don't pass the Save Act because they like the system.

Sure. Anybody who's capable of getting a couple million bucks who can put it in, you are free from peasant labor for the rest of your life. I'm going to say it again. If you can make $2 million at any point in your life and put that into a high yield savings or ETF, high yield ETF's going to do better. You're going to get the GDP right now is 95K per year. Could you imagine getting 10 grand per month for doing nothing but being rich? They built this system 100 years ago. And now, Ian, imagine if you never had to work

and you'd wake up and just had 10 grand. It concerns me because it's UBI. It's UBI. They're moving crypto. It's UBI for the people who are capable of getting to that level and it's hard work for everybody else. That's what they're trying to turn crypto into away from proof of work. Speaking of work for everyone else, away from proof of work, to proof of stake, which means if you have it, you're going to make more of it because you're supplying it to the network. That's how you're rich. And it's the same system, dude. The people who, they basically say it to your face. If you can figure it how to break that barrier, you don't have to work anymore. And if you're not smart enough, you're going to be a peasant forever. And then if you're smart, but you're too smart and they won't let you

win like John McAfee. Well, he broke the rules. What rules? I agree, but what are you? Outside the system. What did he do that was rule breaking? Because he was a crazy man. I mean, he was nuts, but like he would pay taxes.

Okay, there it is. He's a prominent libertarian saying burn the system down with the money to back it up. And so he's an example of an intelligent person that wasn't let in. Tates are telling people literally escape the matrix. They got money and influence and they're burning the system down. Yeah, those are the dangerous ones are the intelligent ones that want to burn it down. The regular people, they just make them watch sports or left and right, like you were saying, left foot, right foot, or this team and that team, or that country and this world leader is going at it or whatever. The competition that they wanted to describe it.

They called it bread and circus in Rome. It was about the circus. They would make sure that the population got a circus for free so that they didn't become malcontent about the foreign wars where their husbands were off and their dads were gone. Ian, I got a chicken coop out back. So long as the roosters aren't causing a fuss, I don't care what they do. But the moment those roosts start tearing things up and digging holes, I'm taking them out, and we're eating them. And what if a rooster built dug out a little canal to help irrigate for the other hens to drink fresh water? I don't care.

Would you elevate him to a position of power? I'd do nothing. Okay. That's his business with the hens. Right. Now if the hens start pecking each other, we put blinders on them so they can't. If... Is that like repealing the 19th?

Yeah. Similar, yeah. Actually, that's a great post. I should post that picture. Hey, post, I'm going to pull that up. I'm going to pull that up, and then we'll grab some. With blinders? No, I'm going to post the image of the chicken blinder and then put repeal the 19th.

I've never seen this chicken blinder before. You guys have never seen chicken blinders? I'm not. I have. It's not really inhumane because I don't think it physically hurts that. No, no. No, it's just a little clip on their beak. And it makes it so that they can only, they can see the sides, but not forward.

and you do this because they're pecking each other. Now they can't fight each other because they can't see in front of them. Oh, my God. Wow. Brilliant. Repeal the 19th. Controlling what they can see. That's the me.

And then they got the ones with the googly eyes. Look, the googly eyes. Fucking chickens, dude. Make a chicken blender that says like iPhone under or something like that. Oh, that one on the right has literally Googly eyes. I know I see what you're talking about. All right, we got settled down. He says Massachusetts.

is now begging Trump to fast-track gas pipelines after years of blocking fossil fuels. Energy bills are soaring. When do they finally admit their energy policy failed working Americans? Well, I just heard of the previous question, the previous conversation we are having. We're chickens in a chicken coop. I'm like a fluffy rooster. That's it. I'm in a chicken coop same as everybody else. We're all chickens in a chicken coop. They just want y'all not to burn things down. That means sometimes things burn down, right? The general idea, Oh, this Cornell story, everyone's getting all angry. Okay, throw them some red meat.

When the chickens are all ornery and yelling and fight and you throw some fish in there. And then they completely forget what's happening. Then one chicken maybe acts out and you're like, hey, chickens, because we're a little bit more intelligent. You're like, look, this chicken did a bad thing. Everyone focused. We're going to punish this chicken. Don't ever. Like, so they make a big deal out of it.

Yeah. Which is maybe what they're doing with the Cornell thing. They're like, don't ever step. We need control of your thoughts. They did this and Bangman Fried. Bankman Fried. Well, I wonder about this because politics got so contentious, people are ready to string each other up, right? The question is like, well, the powers that be, be it Trump or Democrats, don't want that to happen.

So at what point do they say, all right, throw in the red meat and distract everybody, make them fight over something dumb? Yeah. Maybe that's Candace and Tucker. Probably. By changing the conversation to Israel, left and right moved to where you had a left and a right, Tucker and Kansas come in screaming Israel. And now portions of the left and portions of the right have formed a new faction. That's why I tweeted the new left-right divide is Israel, because Anna Kaspare and Tucker Carlson having the same worldview,

they're no longer distinct from each other. Dude, if I owned a network like Google and I could just decide who got featured, I should be stripped of that power. Like, no human should have that power. That's pretty crazy. Google's got a CEO, but like it's owned by the shareholders. I wonder who gets to decide what gets featured, how they do that. Well, that would be whoever's in charge of like YouTube.

It's a big, it's a big. machine, dude. You know, like, Apple, for instance. They pick winners and losers. Like, who reads the New York Times? Why are they on the front page? Why are, you know what I mean? Thomas? Let's grab this. Oh, how was the, how was the news hit? We're running through super chats right now. Oh, yeah, good. I just did a quick piece on the riots in France. So sorry I had to dip out for a second, but, uh, yeah, the 50 footage is just crazy. The France stuff is like, what's like migrants are writing? Yeah, that's what, so they're calling it high school kids, which they are technically high school kids, but, you know, as I just said, it's not little Pierre from Bordeaux.

This is, you know, migrants in really rough areas of Paris that are just burning their schools for no reason. But look, the French love to riot, but this is a different type of a variety. Is it going to French? No, they're not. Is it just going to be live? Well, we're going live at tonight at 8, but can you, we'll tell it at the end of the show. It was on live already. It was just right now. Cinaski says, why is nobody questioning Jane Doe's incredibly detailed memory after a drug alcohol-fueled orgy. That's not even a joke, actually.

That's a good point. Ketamine is not one that you remember much on. That's an extreme drug. That's why I was trying to figure out what it did last night. Yeah, I mean, she might not remember anything. Serge X says, next time you go to a poker game, you should arrive with Kaiba's theme song. No, what was the thing called that they wear?

In Yu-Gio? I don't know at all. What does that thing called? U-Gi-UGO was not my jam. I was a little old for that. Art holder thing. It was a Pokemon guy. What is it called?

The Yu-Gi-O armbands? I don't even know how to search for it. I'm asking chatchie. No, it wasn't an armband. They had a game tray on their arms to hold their cards. The dual disc? It was called a dual disc. It's not a disc, though.

Yeah, it was called the dual disc. Yep. Like a vambrice. Yeah. That's how you'd play is you'd have your cards on one arm? You know that shows about Magic the Gathering? Stolen. So Magic,

being the first card game and having monsters fight each other, Yu-Gi-O was about them basically playing magic. Oh, cool. Okay. And then the funny thing is, when the show first came out, the game had no rules. It made no sense. Like, Yu-Gi-O would literally just do things that were game-breaking and right away. Oh, that's kind of how He-Man was. If you ever get a chance to watch the documentary

and the way they formed He-Man, they went to... What's that? It was for toys. It started off, and they went to a meeting. They're like, yeah, we have toys, we have a show, everything. And they're like, great, we'll sign you, Hazber or whatever. And they're like, shit, now we gotta make a show. Yeah, they're like, we'll figure it out. Yeah, that's why the show makes no sense. Didn't they just have a movie about that come out?

Yeah, it made no sense. That was it, yeah. Was it, did it do well? No, I bombed. Oh, really? Because it makes no sense. The movie of He-Man or the movie about them? No, no, no, the He-Man movie that just came out.

Like a big, a big budget superhero. He tried to make it a comedy, man. It looked terrible. It shouldn't have been a comedy. It should have been hot action, like Conan or something. Yeah. All right. Quanta says, we keep seeing weird stuff,

especially seeing media dropping. and so far the only answer people can come up with is USAID was funding it. Why don't we start calling for the release of USAID programs, name and shame when they exist? All of the USAID program stopped by Doe, so we can see publicly what was being done, a la Epstein files. I would love to see that. We should start, yeah, we want the USAID files.

That would be cute. That's brilliant. Quanta, that's very, very smart. If your dad wasn't your dad, would you really want to know? Yes. Look, their funding was crazy, but the problem is that they funneled it through a lot of places. Like, they would give it to charity.

in the UK and then that charity would then, you know, fund another thing, another thing in the trail would go and eventually it would end up at these far left protests, of course. But this is your first summer without protest in this country. It's interesting. The funding seems to have dried up. The hell's going on. This thing just turned down and started making noises. Oh, those robots, dude. It's a listening device of... ASI, super intelligence act. Hey, by the way, calling it super intelligence. Wrong move, dude. I'm super intelligent. Those things are ASI, Don. artificial super intelligence. Get it straight.

This is super intelligence, bro. I already said it, but it's true. That's hilarious. I like the way you just dropped Don. That's talking to the president. You know, good friend of yours. They are super intelligent, but they're also artificial. I liked watching the press currents and all of the AI bros are like desperately trying

to say SI every time and they do. Yeah, yeah. All right. Let's see. We got time for about one more. What do we got here? Uh, let's see. It says, uh, Tiff this says,

So fun to be here. Usually I'm doing yard work. Sinooski and I are not the same on the same page about this frat girl's first hit single. I think it should be less nagging, more gagging. He thinks it should be ketamine dick gobbler. What say you? Gosh. I like the first one.

Yeah, ketamine mushroom gobbler. Uh, I think the first one. Yeah, what was the first one again? Uh, less nagging, more gagging. Yeah, that sounds better. You know, and then I have to say dick. Jessica, clarity, can you give a pep talk to Republicans who are so mad about the war and economy? They secretly want Democrats to win to teach them a lesson.

I don't think they realize their social ramifications, the social ramifications it will have and will possibly revive woke agendas. Yeah, I think a lot of them want it. Guys, we're like, we have a Me Too story. We had a lady get fired from her job for having Cornrose, a white lady. She posted a picture in Cornrow. She got fired. It is 20, it is 2016 all over again. I'm concerned with Nick Fuentes and not I haven't talked to him in a while Nick I haven't seen him a little bit but like

Saying like he's just happy to watch it all burn I don't know he's the word burn down but total Democrats sweep He's like good. They deserve it. Yeah, but think about really a Republican so look Listen the ratings they want the ratings. They want to be like the Democrats are doing it again The problem with his guys that support him is that when they think what is it 2034 or something when he's he can run for president Good luck you will never be able to win as a Republican in this country if the Democrats win. They will flood this country with so many millions of people. He'll never, he won't get a chance. So it's like that's their dream. They say you'd burn it this time and then we'll be back in 2034 and it'll be five.

It's, yeah, it's not going to. I mean, you think we're going to elect a conservative in England is never going to happen. It's impossible now. They've, they've done a great job. They flood the country. They tried in Biden. They didn't do enough. They're going to double it, triple it this time. Ian, you got to post the chicken blinder just all, just a picture of a chicken with a blinder on saying repeal the 19th. No, no, I don't want to repeal the the 19th. It repealed the 19th, question mark. Yeah, there you go. Do that. It's too, they won't know what it means. It's too, uh. We're gonna wrap things up.

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