Timcast IRL - Paul Dans Uncensored: US Birth Rates Plummeted In 2023 According to cdc

Episode Date: August 25, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to our special weekend show, Sunday Uncensored. Every week we produce four uncensored episodes of the TimCast IRL podcast exclusively at TimCast.com and we're going to bring you the most important for our weekend show. If you want to check out more segments just like this, become a member at TimCast.com. Now enjoy the show. What up everybody? We got the story from the post-millennial US birth rates plummet in 2023. Now, enjoy the U.S. dropped by 2%. The lower birth rate is double the average that existed between 2014 and 2019, when it declined by 1% each year, but half, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:00:52 We get it. People ain't having no babies no more. They say the report documented the fertility rate for women between the ages of 15 and 44 at 54.5 births per 1,000 women, which was a 3% drop from 56. 54 births per 1,000 women? That's not a lot at all. That's a small amount. I mean, I'm not sure how you feel about them putting 15 in there.
Starting point is 00:01:17 I mean, it should start at least 18, but probably... Oh, yeah, yeah. That's kind of creepy. Well, it's going to skew it way down. It's going to make the number way lower but sure I guess but yeah 50 so
Starting point is 00:01:29 per 1000 women oh shit that's literally just 15 to 44 you'd think the number would be a lot higher than that wow that's crazy damn well it's the end of days people aren't having babies anymore.
Starting point is 00:01:45 So, you know, thank you and welcome to the apocalypse, I guess. Get ready for what's going to come. Ladies and gentlemen, 2030 is a big year. I feel like 2030, everything. You're 2030, right? Project 2025 is 2030. They're 2030. WEF is 2030.
Starting point is 00:02:02 2030 is going to be the year, I guess, huh? Is that when they just drop a new... When you said you were going to go live in a van down by the river a couple years ago. I said 2030, did I? Yeah. Wow. So it's all been foretold. Maybe that's when the simulation ends.
Starting point is 00:02:13 Oh, geez. And we just, you know, that's it. It's over. We're on our own. Yeah. Is Ian coming back in? What do you think, sir? Well, I mean, I'm just trying to get one year at a time right now.
Starting point is 00:02:25 Let's get through 2025. But really, you know, 2020, 2030, a lot of wood to chop between now and then. So I think the good news is people are across the country and across the world kind of rejecting globalism. I think there is a real push here. Yeah, but nobody's having kids. Well, that's true. I mean, you know, with even what I worked on, Project 2025, one of our fundamental promises was restoring the family as the centerpiece of American life.
Starting point is 00:03:00 And people don't have kids because of all the pressures against having kids. Economically, right now, with what's provided in terms of schools, I was a public school guy, K-12. We take our kids and have to basically reverse indoctrinate them every night when they get back from school. Well, we should abolish schools. Just get rid of the whole system. Fuck it off to hell.
Starting point is 00:03:26 So what are the people who can't afford their kids to do it themselves? What does that mean? That means if you're a parent, I don't know, you live in lower income, and you've got to take your kid out to somewhere, and you can't do it yourself. What did we used to do? Well, we didn't have the kind of huge, giant, crazy cities like we do now. So don't live in a city.
Starting point is 00:03:48 But we did. Yeah, but what if they do live in a city? Hold on, Tim. If they do live in a city. What? What if they do live in a city? Leave. This idea that you're entitled to luxury is like baffling to me.
Starting point is 00:03:58 It's just communist. Look, man, when Donald Trump goes on stage and he's like, we will not touch Social Security. And I'm like, it's just communism. It's it's it's the encroachment of communism. It's just who's going slower in that direction. The reality is that life is difficult and you have to run full speed to survive. You are like our forefathers and our ancestors struggled every day. They walked out there.
Starting point is 00:04:19 They're going for a walk. They trip and fall and they go, oop, I got a scrape on my arm. Guess I'm going to die. Or lose their arm. Or just die from sepsis. Like I'm going to infection. I'm dead. But now you've got people who are like, I demand modern medicine, modern technologies, vehicles, cars.
Starting point is 00:04:35 I'm entitled to all of these things in order to have all of these things. There has to be commensurate labor. And so as the system is breaking, I simply, my attitude is simply, you are not entitled to a cell phone nor a car. You are not entitled to factory farmed pork and chicken. None of these things are entitlements. They are choices you are making in the balance of what resources you generate towards what you allocate for expenditures. That means when someone says, I have to send my kids to school because I live in a city, what they're actually telling me is I prefer to live in a city for its its conveniences. And I have I am I am not concerned with my children than being in public school.
Starting point is 00:05:17 I am not saying you are wrong to send your kid to public school. I'm not saying you are wrong to enjoy the conveniences of a city safe, no bears, clean running water, all of these things may actually be better off. And if you can properly teach your kids to, as you mentioned, Paul, reverse indoctrinate, you're probably better off. But I'm saying if you are someone who doesn't want your kid in the school system, the idea that you can't afford it is incorrect. It is a choice you make as to how you expend your resources. I think there's a lot of people who live in cities who will get by just fine so long as they're paying attention to their kids and what their kids are learning in schools. And they're going to enjoy the luxuries of modern civilization. And I have total respect for that. But for the people who are like the schools are
Starting point is 00:05:56 broken and it's bullshit, but I'm not going to do anything about it. Okay. Well, you either have to talk to your kids every day when they got out of school and explain to them the bullshit and ask them what they're learning and be very attentive and communicative or you need to leave a city. Get out of there and get your kids into homeschooling. I mean, not even that. If you live in a city, you do a pod. You go to your
Starting point is 00:06:18 neighbors and you say, hey, public schools are whack. Let's do a pod thing where one day out of the week, one of the parents handles the education for the day. The real reason people aren't having kids isn't economic reasons. I mean, they'll tell you that. The real reason people aren't having kids is because they don't want to. They don't want to screw up their lifestyle.
Starting point is 00:06:36 Like, I had my son when I was 35, and I finally was like, I would like to have a child. I'd better do it now because I am aging. But the reasons that I didn't have a child before that are because I was having fun. Like, I didn't want to do school pickup. I didn't want to do any of that. Communist alert. Nova Cotton in chat says, Tim is a spoiled kid. Mommy was a teacher.
Starting point is 00:07:03 So he thinks everyone has the same chances. My mom was not a teacher. And this idea that people are entitled to government services is communism. I'm not kidding. Like, it's so fascinating to me that people are like, I deserve Social Security. And I'm like, no one deserves anything. You are being forced to pay into a system. There are some things we agree with and some things we don't.
Starting point is 00:07:24 But the idea that everyone is deserving of, of, of all of these things from other people's expenditures and resources is silly. You, you, you are not entitled to these things. No one is.
Starting point is 00:07:33 I'm a high school dropout, by the way. Why would they be deserving today? If they weren't, if they weren't deserving, I don't mean to keep cutting you off, but if they weren't deserving today, uh,
Starting point is 00:07:43 or they think they are deserving today, why weren't they deserving 100 years ago when we didn't have the supplies and demand? Now it's like, oh, because technology is here and everywhere. You deserve it. No, that doesn't make zero sense. The issue isn't about deserving. The issue is that we have indoctrinated our entire population to believe that there is a socialist utopia
Starting point is 00:08:00 coming and we all are entitled to the things that we imagine it provides without any of the you know like death and scarcity so that's part of it I mean when I left New York a couple of years ago I wanted to buy a house I wanted something that was mine where I wasn't like you know paying rent and filling the pockets of someone else to no benefit to myself or my future I couldn't afford anything in New York City which which is, you know, where I lived for a long time, which is where like my mother was born and my son was born and my grandparents,
Starting point is 00:08:29 you know, were born in New York City. And so I had to leave and people are like, oh, I can't believe you left and, you know, moved to West Virginia. And it's like, really? Because I wanted to afford a house. I couldn't afford a house anywhere that my family lives in the Northeast. So I found a place that I liked that I could afford because you're not entitled to just like own a place in New York City. Can I just I just want to say, like, you know, a bunch of a bunch of a bunch of homies up in Europe one day were like, hey, we can't afford any properties. The government has become overbearing and oppressive. I got an idea. Let's go on a say a ship and sail for three months where 20% of us in the boat will literally die. We will then land on a barren shore where there is literally nothing.
Starting point is 00:09:10 We have no idea what we'll find. We're going to get there just before winter where we're probably going to die. That's the better way to go about doing it. And I got an easier thing for you these days. It's called, why don't you move to a rural area or West Virginia? You see, people grow up in New York. They live in New York. They live in these big cities.
Starting point is 00:09:28 And they're like, the crime is getting really bad. I deserve this thing. My kids should get a good school. I'm paying my taxes. You can do half. You can do one-tenth of what the pilgrims and the colonists did and literally just move somewhere where houses are cheap. And then you can buy a house and have a yard and a dog. New York to PA in two hours.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Seriously. I don't know if it's so much expecting an entitlement, but part of what you were saying was paying your taxes. It's like we are paying great sums of money over to the government and getting really nothing in return. So it's like in some systems, I believe in certain states, they're actually giving stipends to people to do the homeschooling, which is the whole public school system is broken,
Starting point is 00:10:14 and it's costing a fortune. And really, if we're going to compulsorily take that money out of people's pockets by means of property tax surcharges on education systems or the like, you know, people have a right to get that money back. It's only going to get worse every single year. Taxes are going to get higher. Communism will encroach because nobody wants to give up their entitlements. No one does. I mean, let's pay attention to what they're talking about tonight. She's setting out, you know, interest in income tax levels up to 80%.
Starting point is 00:10:52 And the capital gains, the unrealized capital gains, that's a way to force people out of their homes. Property taxes are already doing that. Well, mine aren't yet. So property taxes are a tax on unrealized gains. As someone pointed out in the show yesterday, it's a very good point. When you buy a house for $300,000 and then you pay, you know, I don't know, like a 10,000, depending where you live, let's say your taxes are $10,000 a year or something. Let's say it's 12,000 a year. You're paying a thousand bucks a month
Starting point is 00:11:18 in property taxes. That's a lot. It is. And some cities that are that high. Absolutely. I think Chicago is super high. I think Chicago is even higher than that. I think Chicago might be like 20 or 30,000 on a $300,000 house or something like that. That is crazy. Yep. How do you live? You have to have a job that pays that amount so you can pay those taxes. Then your house goes up to 500. They reassess the value and say, now you got to pay 50. Yeah, I don't like that. Let's say it's 12 and they're like, now you got to pay 16. And you're like, I don't have that. Or let's say it's $12,000, and they're like, now you've got to pay $16,000. And you're like, fuck, I don't have it.
Starting point is 00:11:45 I didn't get a raise. Do they reassess the value every year? They reassess it when they reassess it. Yeah. Oh, they just come and audit every once in a while? Yeah, like every now and then it gets reassessed. It's a government entity, you know, so they're not super- Some states have caps on the amount that it can increase over time.
Starting point is 00:12:00 They have maybe five years every time for a reassessment. But you see these really high property tax states are in the main up there in liberal areas where they have a great public service system. And you have all these municipal workers stroking $200,000 a year. Like they, they max out their, their pensions and the pension obligations of these various municipalities are just, they're overwhelming. You know, what's crazy too, is they max out their pensions. Their pensions are all invested in the stock market.
Starting point is 00:12:34 And then all of these liberal places complain about all of the companies that are creating jobs and wealth in the stock market. And so it's like, they want to tank their pensions, you know, they want to ruin it. So I'll give a fact check. Because I asked ChatGPT to make sure.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Because I was just saying, shut off the top of my head. ChatGPT says the New Jersey has the highest rate at 2.21% annual. And so in a $300,000 house, it's $6,630 per month. I'm pretty sure, I thought Illinois, you know what, it could be Chicago.
Starting point is 00:13:04 Per year. Per year. It's at 6,630 per year, not month. I'm pretty sure, I thought Illinois, you know what, it could be Chicago. Per year. Per year. Per year. It's at six, six, three zeros per year, not month. Per year, sorry. So then you're doing, you know, about around 500 some odd dollars per month to live in your house in New Jersey. What happens if your house goes up by $100,000 and you're going to tack on another two grand to that? Where does that money come from? I live in Harrisburg. My place from 2019 when I bought it compared to now is almost doubled. Jeez. Yeah, because I have a location, location, location.
Starting point is 00:13:35 But if I was paying property taxes, what Zillow says and everyone says it's worth, yeah, I know. I'd be homeless maybe. I don't know. Yeah, that's so crazy. Once you have property taxes and you have the unrealized capital gains, suddenly it's a way to force people out of their homes. Yes. And then they're then like they have all of these allowances for corporations to buy homes and rent them back to people. because one of the Biden-Harris plans is to, you know, force corporate landholders, landlords,
Starting point is 00:14:08 to cap rents at certain amounts. And so now what you have is, you know, government housing, right? You have, like, government housing, and people don't get to own their own homes or their own property or decide where they live. And the next thing you know, it's like Soviet Russia, and they're just installing people in your second bedroom. That's, you know, we've done these experiments before. That's the thing. Nothing is new under the sun. The price control,
Starting point is 00:14:35 it's the rent control that you go off to New York City. That's the history of the whole thing. And, you know, in California, why are, you know, certain price homes unaffordable is because the culmination of all these wrongheaded liberal policies that have just driven up the ability to even build houses, the environmental restrictions, the labor restrictions, the, you know, the sizing and the like but um with with housing in particular uh this idea particularly of taxing unrealized capital gains even if they say oh no this is for the super rich it's for 100 million well crap rolls downhill basically you can't and we're not defending like yes the wealthy really do have to pay pay more um but already do. I mean, the thing is the wealthy already do pay a lot more. They do, but the super wealthy pay so much in lawyers to evade this stuff at some point. That's a function of the tax code. That's not a function of like, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:15:37 Like, why is the tax code so complicated that it can be, you know, skirted around? Why is the tax code so complicated that I have to hire someone to do my taxes? That's not reasonable. I should be able to just do my taxes. I mean, that's really what modern life is, ultimately, like making a small class of people at the top who are able to navigate these laws and the rest of the people are subjected to it. So, you know, with respect to doing these sort of experiments, that's exactly what they are. They're cooked up out of like the economics department at Princeton. Oh, here are some of these theses, like let's start taxing unrealized capital gains.
Starting point is 00:16:22 And the next thing you know, they're actually going to get a chance at implementing it. It's a disaster. Well, I think that's like what they're doing in Canada. That's what Justin Trudeau is trying to do. And it's forcing people out of homes. It's a problem. And housing is already really in a bad situation in Canada. It's very short.
Starting point is 00:16:41 I mean, people have a right to be upset right now, particularly the Zoomers and Generation Y. family, that you've been able to not buy property, that you haven't been able to participate in, in really kind of an upswell of, of, uh, just the, the, uh, comforts of life, but also have time to like examine why we're even here, you know, to have free speech, to have, you know, religion to go off and, and, and develop yourself. Um, but that's, that's really this engineering of government. That's when you talk about socialism or communism. These folks meeting there in Chicago this week, they have a completely different conception of life. Like there's a famous Michelle Obama quote about that,
Starting point is 00:17:41 they see government cradle to grave and they can't imagine government not stepping in at every juncture of your life to so-called solve the problem. Yeah. Well, there was a tweet out from Rachel Levine today, the trans diversity hire in the Department of Health and Human Services, was talking about the government suicide hotline that was coming online or something. And while I respect that there is a lifeline for people, why would the government be the
Starting point is 00:18:13 first place that you would turn if you're having that kind of a hard time? You know, there's... Take your gun if you... Well, there's... Your arm maybe? I don't know. That's the insidious look at it. There's churches, you know?
Starting point is 00:18:24 There were churches. There were churches. There were churches. If you look at the history of these civic institutions in the 20th and 19th century, they were really stood up by religious groups, whether they're the hospitals or the schools or, you know, obviously a lot of what we now call social services, the almshouses and the like. But over time, you know, I think a lot of progressives, and this was through the Supreme Court and kind of the Warren Court basically took this concept of dividing church and state and made it such that anything dealing
Starting point is 00:19:07 with religion was now out of bounds. At the same point, they're mandating states provide these services, so necessarily they couldn't be done by religious institutions anymore. Well, that's how the satanic temple came to be. Because under George Bush, the second George Bush, when he established funding for community groups, even community groups that were religious in nature, the founders of the Satanic Temple said that they wanted that money too. And so they founded the Satanic Temple in order to get money for community services that are religious. Is this going to be the next flight like COVID? A lot of people moved out of blue states, went to red states. Is this going to be the next thing that a lot of people are moving out of cities and whatnot that they can't afford moving to more, not just blue states, but just rural areas? Part of the problem with moving is that moving out of a city is if you're in a city, you're
Starting point is 00:20:03 renting and it's very hard to save money when you're renting. I've met people who are paying the – we're talking about income tax. We're talking about the property tax. Right. But I mean if you're – let's say you're renting though in a city. Yeah, yeah. And if you're paying property tax, like you could sell your thing and move wherever you want. You could move to somewhere in the city.
Starting point is 00:20:21 But like if you're renting, it's very hard to leave a city because you have to save money in order to get a down payment somewhere. And a lot of rural places, there aren't a lot of apartments. So even around here, there's a lot of new homes and stuff being built. And there's a lot of homes for sale, but there's not that many apartments. No. I know. When I first started here, I was looking around, and everything's like one bedroom, one loft, like 1,600 plus, I'm not. I know I'm trying to, um, when I was first started here, I was looking around and everything's like one bedroom, one loft, like 1600 plus, plus, plus like, really?
Starting point is 00:20:50 Just like, this is how it works. And it's nothing you'd have to find like someone like a mom and pop like down the, you know, who let you run from them, but not, but they're building everything up. It's all corporations nowadays. Yeah. It's all corporate, which is weird. And so even if you did find something that you could sort of like, know like my last apartment in new york i negotiated with the landlord i was like this is my situation and she was like well my grandfather built this building and i'd like you to have a good start you know and like that was sweet and then she sold it to a really big corporation who just kept you know raising the rent and everything like that so um but it is hard to make a new start. Like you have,
Starting point is 00:21:25 and even if you're moving into an apartment, you need like first and last, you need security, you need all that stuff. It's, it's, it's practically impossible. I can't imagine how hard it must be for Gen Z.
Starting point is 00:21:33 When I worked at vice, when I first started, I was sleeping on my buddy's couch and I was paying him 300 bucks a month in Williamsburg. And then, uh, I ended up getting a raise advice. They were paying me a hundred.
Starting point is 00:21:46 So I had, I don't know, 10K plus saved. And then I started looking for my own place. I'm like, okay, I should get my own apartment. Denied by every single one. You were making a hundred thousand? Yeah. And you were getting denied for apartment? Every single apartment, no matter how small.
Starting point is 00:22:01 What city? In New York. In New York City. And I remember finally, like, there was a studio apartment that was, I don't know, like 12 or 13 at the time. And I called, I submitted everything.
Starting point is 00:22:14 I say, I work with this company, you know, I've worked there for a year or like whatever. And here's my salary, whatever. And they denied me. And so I called them and I was like, I'm just wondering why it is.
Starting point is 00:22:28 I have first, last, and security ready to go. And they told me they couldn't. They were like, well, it was some woman and she's just like, I don't know. And I was like, can I speak to someone who's in charge? Is there a manager or something? And then I got some older guy. And he was just like, how old was I at the time? I think I was, I would have been 2013. manager or something and then I got some older guy and he was just like how old was I at the time I
Starting point is 00:22:45 think I was this I would have been 2013 so we're talking you know I was yeah so shit I was 27 or whatever 28 and he was like the guy basically said you're 28 you're single you're making the bottom of six figures you can clearly afford it're going to rent to someone who makes more money than you. And we know we can. That's it. Damn. Jeez. And I was just like, well, thanks anyway. And then I ended up asking around and then, uh, some friends of mine already had an apartment and someone was moving out. So I just took the room and we never changed the lease or said anything about it. And I was like, how the fuck am I supposed to get an apartment? That's what you have to do. Yeah. I mean, I mean I I had a lot of trouble get I had guarantors on my first like four apartments five apartments something like that until finally I was able to get one on my own and as I said like
Starting point is 00:23:34 uh and that was after my marriage ended and whatever else and I had to like talk my way into the apartment just like I talked my way into everything. Yeah, man. It's crazy. I mean, it was similarly in California. Well, there is a housing stock shortage, to be sure. And it's going to be exacerbated by 15 to 20 million illegals coming in and taking the bottom tier of the property. Well, not just the bottom tier. In California, they're pushing through a thing where they're doing zero down payment loans for illegal immigrants to get them into their first homes. Yeah. How much of a loan are they offering?
Starting point is 00:24:09 I don't know. But like, you don't have to put anything down. So you just sign it. It doesn't even matter. I mean, it could be $5 million. You just sign it. For promoting ex-urban home improvement and allowing people to kind of get in and move out of the cities for these expressed reasons there's a lot of kind of these smaller tier towns that
Starting point is 00:24:32 do have that housing stock that uh if you know people get the right tax credits they can they can improve their housing so um i think that that is some of the engineering we have to do. You know, I was just driving through, um, Baltimore city, West Baltimore the other day, and it's just incredible. Like, um, just boarded up everything. Nothing has changed. You know, this is a Democrat city. It's been run by Democrats forever.
Starting point is 00:24:59 And, um, that's what Kim Klasick is always talking about. Like, why do they keep electing Democrats in Baltimore? I just looked up my apartment in New York, which was 1950, not 1952 bedroom when I lived there 2014. And it's currently at thirty five. Damn. Yeah. I have friends who pay like something like thirty four hundred for a one bedroom apartment on literally Avenue D. And it's like in order tobedroom apartment on literally Avenue D.
Starting point is 00:25:27 In order to get this apartment? In the East Village. I had to basically pay six months up front. Yeah. So I went to this one, and this is when I'm working for Fusion, and I was like, I got money. And they were like, well, and I said, and I had been calling a bunch of places,
Starting point is 00:25:44 and I was like, can I give you six months rent up front? Will you rent it to me then? And they were like, places. And I was like, can I give you six months rent up front? Will you rent it to me then? And they were like, okay. And that was it. Sure. And then the place I was living at before, which was a temporary spot, never paid me back my deposit and they told me to go fuck myself.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Oh, I never counted on getting my deposit back. I got into more arguments with people because I was like, I'm leaving. You can keep my deposit for my last month's rent. And they'd be like, that's not how that works. That's not legal. Yes, it is. No, it's not.
Starting point is 00:26:07 You can't do that. Well, but I did it every time. They're not legally allowed to take a security deposit for rent. So you just. I know. So they can't. Wait, American legal? United States of America?
Starting point is 00:26:17 Yeah, you can't do that. But a lot of people try to do it. They just keep the security deposit for rent, but they're not allowed to because security deposit is usually in an escrow account of some sort. And they should give you interest back on that. But they never actually do that. We got to go to callers. You got to get a cleaner and get a receipt, itemized receipt.
Starting point is 00:26:32 You'll get your deposit back for that. They never give it back anyway. We're going to pull in. But that's... Asmodeus, you are our first caller. Welcome to the show. Thanks for having me back on. What up?
Starting point is 00:26:45 Question for Paul. So I haven't kept up with the Trump Project 2025 trauma since he said he had nothing to do with it. Correct me if I'm wrong there. But what are your thoughts on it and how do you think this will affect Trump's effectiveness in office? Since a lot of people are worried about his record of making poor staff picks and just filling his administration with backstabbers and just rhinos? And do you see a role for Project 2025 in his administration and also beyond his term if he's elected? Yeah, good questions. One, you know, the seminal thing is we got to get him elected, right? That's the most important thing. There's no transition without winning in november so all hands on deck on that and as we've been saying all night you know we have to come together this
Starting point is 00:27:31 has to be additive um you know what the democrats have is discipline all right they're professional it's not as much as the liberal media might say elements of the trump campaign are professional and disciplined you don't want to strike out at your base, okay? No one's ever won an election by attacking their base. A lot of what Project 2025 is, is the base, okay? These are people who are the best performers in the first Trump administration. So my hope is, yes, this will ultimately, Trump wins and many of these ideas, but more so many of these people will find their way into the second Trump administration. Don't give up hope, basically. And actually, you should really, for those who haven't been involved with Project 2025, go check it out, project2025.org. It's a way to bring in people who have never had government experience, who want to come and contribute
Starting point is 00:28:32 to learn about the government and make themselves known. This is a route. And my hope is that when Trump wins, he will take a number of these personnel recommendations. That said, you know, like ultimately, I think the campaign has, I think it's changed. I'm really excited about Corey coming on board and really moving it in the right direction. But yes, it always remains a problem that there is a lot of people putting on the MAGA skin suit right now who are basically not the people we want to have at the levers of power next go round. Who's Corey? You mentioned him before. Oh, sorry. Corey Lewandowski
Starting point is 00:29:14 is what I call the OG of the OGs. He was employee number one under the Trump campaign in 2015. He's the campaign manager. So it's like, you know, President Trump brought, is bringing back that 16 vibe. So I think a lot of letting Trump be Trump is going to flow from that.
Starting point is 00:29:38 But certainly there were a lot of travails. Look, the fact that Trump's getting all this, the legal cases against him, that flows from bad personnel decisions between 2017 and 2021. Because we never got in and reformed the DOJ. And they never felt any impact for the Russia hoax. There was never any accountability for the entire IC. So you saw things like the laptop disinformation, the 51 people writing. These are the same people. Unless you're going to get in and actually clear up and clean house,
Starting point is 00:30:17 what's the point of winning? So I think the message has to be like, these are good people. This is a very positive product. And the project, and we want to put them to work. And remember, like, these are the people who work the polls. These are the people who do the election integrity. These are the true believers. So, you know, don't just, if you were the campaign, you want to pick up the phone and talk to these people.
Starting point is 00:30:45 You don't just want to take a shot at them. And I think with Corey coming aboard, it's going to be let's all get together and do this and win this. When I first heard of Project 2025, I didn't know anything about it, to be honest with you. I didn't know much about it. But then sitting down with you earlier before we started the show, you said it's more about getting people connected and bringing people in to help like how the Democrats do all their thing, like their people on the street. You said it's more of like get people out there, get people talking, get people on the street, get people helping, you know, get involved instead of just some weird anti-abortion crazy, you know, righty. Yeah. Look, what we have right now is, you know, Libby was saying, not a democracy,
Starting point is 00:31:27 right? We have a permanent government in Washington. And many of us don't even understand it, especially people who haven't worked in government. I myself, you know, I was an outsider and I wanted to come work in Washington. I didn't know step one of how to get involved. But part of what Project 2025 is, is informing the people about the nature of the government right now. The president, when he, and one day she, you know, gets elected, they're only entitled to put 4,000 people in place. There's 2.2 million federal workers. That's one to 500. Now, when you figure that many of this 500 are of a liberal persuasion, you know, 95% of the donations go to the Democrat Party from the federal workforce and liberal causes,
Starting point is 00:32:18 you have a really tough management problem to get your policy put in place. And so it's not installing Trump kind of partisan hacks. What it is, is making sure that democracy actually functions, that the policy that the president just got elected upon, that the people voted for, is able to be implemented. And if people are standing in the way and blocking that policy, that they're at will, they can be removed. But right now, the career protections on the federal workforce
Starting point is 00:32:52 mean that 99.7% of them cannot be removed, and nor can they really be hired by the president. So you have just a complete static body there. And that's what Project 2025 is, really, is addressing that problem. Okay. Schedule F. Schedule F is the heart of it. Schedule F is really re-infusing constitutional democracy into the executive branch.
Starting point is 00:33:18 And that's exactly what it's saying. It's like, look, not all those jobs are policy determinative. They don't necessarily make a decision but many of them do especially at the top strata so um they're the president's appointing 4 000 there are way more than 4 000 that are making determinations about whether or not um you can you know administer a certain program or policy in a certain direction. So it's making sure that those operators are responsive to political direction. Was that good, Asmodeus? Is there anything else you wanted to add?
Starting point is 00:33:55 Yeah, I mean, that's good. I'm hoping that with RFK potentially dropping out and Trump being on board, that maybe he's seen the light and is willing to bring on other people so yeah we'll see friday right on well thanks for calling in i would say keep up keep up the good word on on you can make a voice out there on twitter wherever you are to encourage the campaign and president trump to move in that direction next up we have brian welcome to the show good evening guys thanks for having me what up most assuredly i got a question for uh i'll open it up to the entire panel on the subject of endorsements and uh learning from past mistakes do you have any compelling examples that were dealing with an improved and wise and grump uh so far his
Starting point is 00:34:46 endorsements i've seen this cycle indicate he is again dealing with swamp creatures the uh theo von interview is a good sign and the hugging the woman at the rally is a good sign but this is a very recent turnaround in his campaign he said that baron put him in touch with suggested he go do the theo interview and that he's Barron's of age now and paying attention and kind of is in his ear. That's promising. I hear Barron's a genius.
Starting point is 00:35:13 Yeah. That's what they say. That's what I've heard. One note of caution is that a lot of, unfortunately, some of the campaign direction, they're not acting always
Starting point is 00:35:24 in the pure interest of Trump because they have many pots going on. You know, Susie Wiles, for example, is a registered lobbyist. I don't know if you know that, but she is on the staff of Mercury, one of the biggest public lobbyists. She's a registered lobbyist and she's leading the campaign. You know, and at that same interview, the president is kind of going against lobbyists and she's leading the campaign you know and at that same interview the president is is kind of um going against lobbyists but you know many of the of these folks and we saw it with bob
Starting point is 00:35:53 good here in virginia um i believe his competitor was a client of chris la cevita so you know are these decisions whether to endorse people actually being made in the best interest of Trump or they being made in the best interest of his advisers? And that goes down the line, you know, the the the hundred billion dollars that that the president ultimately supported to go to Ukraine. How did that come about? Who are the people whispering in his ears? Because that was not his his initial impulse to go that way. I like Tulsi Gabbard. I'm glad he brought her in to debate when he's going to go against Kamala. He brought her in
Starting point is 00:36:32 to help prep him. That's huge. You know, bringing someone from the outside who knows what's up. I guess I love Tulsi apparently. I keep talking about her. Well, she is the one who knocked Kamala out of the 2020 primary. And she's a veteran and badass knocked Kamala out of the 2020 primary. And she's a veteran and badass and she's smart.
Starting point is 00:36:48 She loves America. This has to be additive. Right now you have to be adding to the coalition. And she's a great representative of people who don't agree on all the issues that Trump does, but actually have a great life story and a great communication sense. So I met her and been fully impressed with her. She picks up rocks and puts them down.
Starting point is 00:37:14 It's pretty awesome. I think RFK and Trump have got to approach Joe Rogan and be like, yo, we're coming on the show together. Actually, yeah. With RFK now? Oh, forget about it but even even then if rfk endorses trump and then rfk goes on rogan that'll be huge i'd love to see the two of them on rogan right even without joe you mean just r yeah yeah yeah okay and then
Starting point is 00:37:36 joe's gonna be like why would you endorse endorse trump because you know what you're saying makes sense and he's like well i'll tell you i mean the best chance that I get is going to be with Donald Trump and I'll be able to be a part of HHS I'm not trying to insult the guy have you been working on that? sounds pretty good it's a normal impersonation pretty decent
Starting point is 00:37:57 yeah is there anything else you wanted to add Brian was that good? no thanks as always guys alright thanks for calling in next up we have lynch mob welcome to the show cool name dude you're muted if you're giving hello go ahead Lynch what up can y'all hear me now
Starting point is 00:38:33 yeah how's it going good y'all just kind of touched on what I was going to ask so RFK's VP A couple days ago leaked And she said that they felt like they were going to pull Trump's voters
Starting point is 00:38:56 And of course He's going to have the announcement in Phoenix Where Trump is going to have the announcement in Phoenix where Trump is going to be the same day. So, um, my question was going to be, um, you guys feel like that's more, he's doing that more to like, say face, uh, politically or like just status wise, or do you think that's more of a legit the noble thing
Starting point is 00:39:27 to do to like realize the country's look peril and if if the democrats if if i if i was independent and said hey guys i'd like to talk politics and the republicans went well you're nuts but sure and the democrats said we're going to file 15 lawsuits against you and then they started beating the shit out of me over and over and over again in the courts. I'd eventually be like, okay, guys on the right, I'm endorsing you because you weren't beating the shit out of me. I really think it's just that. It's the meme.
Starting point is 00:39:55 Like what Vivek did. It's just the point in the cycle where it's time to bow out and support the party you'd rather see win. Because I don't think there's any way that these two-party system is not going to be the two frontrunners of this election. Or let evil win. I don't know if he cares about Trump winning, but he doesn't want the Democrat evilness win,
Starting point is 00:40:15 because I'm sure he understands how bad that would be if they keep going on their plan of attack they want to go. Well, they created an entire pack just to destroy his campaign. Yes. That's shocking. plan of attack they want to go well they created an entire pack just to destroy his campaign yes no shocking they've been you know if you think about how to get driven out of your party that was his dad and his uncle's party and um you know they have not been kind to him over the years especially you know like crazy uncle bobby or whatever they're when his nephew was talking at the rnc i think the dnc last night yeah no it's i think that's part of it but also i think he has a pragmatic realization
Starting point is 00:40:50 like you say like if you are uh you know a medical freedom person if you see this um that the just the dysfunction in the federal government and you want to stop it, this is your last chance, really. This is the election, right? And the Democrats are not going to do it. They're going to do exactly the opposite. So I think it makes complete logical sense at this juncture for him to do it. I wish they had been able to negotiate it even earlier, quite frankly. I feel like the campaign could have reached out to him earlier, but I'm glad to see it's happening now. Well, and even in the campaign could have reached out to him earlier. But I'm glad to see something now.
Starting point is 00:41:25 Well, and even in the articles about the, you know, Trump reaching out or the two campaigns talking, every time they've talked to Kamala's campaign, they are just so rude and cruel to RFK. It's like it's shocking how just disgusting they behave toward him. They're just terrible people. Let's be honest. Yeah. It's pretty horrible. It's a cult. Yeah, they're bad people. What? You don't agree? All this ad hominem attack shit, I'm not tired of it.
Starting point is 00:41:53 They're just people. They're indoctrinated, but so is everybody else. It's a cult. You just gotta figure out your own indoctrination. Yeah, I think it's more, to be fair, the leadership of the party than, you know, the vast main of people are kind of moving along almost like a lemming migration. So I don't, you know, I don't think I agree with Ian. Like these are fellow Americans, you know, they're not evil.
Starting point is 00:42:13 But I do think that there are a lot of like bad leadership, but maybe some evil. The leadership is evil. Certainly. I mean, like, look, I mean, yeah, Schumer is doing to kids. I mean, with the transit radical trans agenda to kids is evil. Michelle Obama came out in favor of that last night. Yeah. And Josh Shapiro just now.
Starting point is 00:42:32 But it's an issue of malicious evil and the banality of evil. So the the run of the mill Democrats who are screaming and cheering for, you know, little girls getting their tits chopped off and sterilization of children and things of the like and showing porn to kids. That's the banality of evil. Still evil. You know? Yeah, I'm not calling my dad who votes Democrat an evil, terrible person. But here's a point that, here's how Ian, I could help Ian understand. When there's the Lich King and he is raising all the people from the, all the zombies to
Starting point is 00:43:02 fight you, you don't waste your time fighting the zombies. They're just zombies. You take out the Lich King and the zombies crumple and fall back to the earth. That's true. CSE, there you go. I'm speaking his language here. Utilitarian imperialists I think is what the Democratic Party represents in the United States, that they're pushing this liberal economic order.
Starting point is 00:43:20 Whether or not it's evil, I don't know. But it's definitely imperialistic. Yeah, it's definitely How I don't know. But it's definitely imperialistic. Yeah, it's definitely. How is evil defined in D&D? It's tough to say because any undead is evil, which is odd. I agree. That doesn't make any sense.
Starting point is 00:43:35 Because especially in World of Warcraft, Undercity, the undead aren't evil. Some of them are. But some of them are just like. If you're alive, you're undead, right? If you're alive, no. Undead is a non-functioning body that moves around through magical means. Okay.
Starting point is 00:43:52 Yeah. It's like, yeah, it's moving around. So in World of Warcraft, I don't know, it's been a long time, but you had Lordaeron. That was a city, right? Yes. Lordaeron. And it got the lich. No, that was the king's name, Lordaeron.
Starting point is 00:44:05 Lord Lordaeron was like the first king. Was it also the city's name then? I thought so. And then the people were killed and then raised as undead. When they broke free from the Lich King's control, they had their own free will back. But everyone rejected them because they're undead, disgusting. So they became their own faction. But how would the...
Starting point is 00:44:26 What's the thing called? The lawful evil. What's that spectrum called? Lawful evil. The alignment. Yeah, the alignment. Of evil. How do you define what evil is?
Starting point is 00:44:35 Self-interest. Because there are malicious evil, and then there's creatures that are just evil. But there's lawful evil, neutral evil, and chaotic evil. Chaotic evil. Those are the worst. Those are the most unpredictably dangerous. They'll turn on each other. The lawful evil, neutral evil, and chaotic evil. Chaotic evil. Those are the worst. Those are the most unpredictably dangerous. They'll turn on each other.
Starting point is 00:44:47 The lawful evil ones usually work together. Right. Democrats, I'd say, are lawful evil. The leaders are. I mean, there might be some in there that are more chaotic than we know. Well, like Antifa would be like the chaotic evil. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:57 Or chaotic neutral sometimes. No, no. Antifa's chaotic neutral. The protesters outside the DNC are literally waving the flags of terrorist organizations. Do they turn on each other? I guess a chaoticist means they turn on each other. It's kind of like the cat turd. The chaotic evil is like the guy doesn't like what he wants to say, so he yells at him.
Starting point is 00:45:16 I don't know him. I'd love to meet him. I'm just saying in your aspect of the world of Worldcraft, however that works. No, I think Cat Turd might be lawful good. Because sometimes those people can be just as dangerous. They're zealously good, obsessed with it to the point where they can be used
Starting point is 00:45:33 against themselves. If you pretend like you're evil... The king says, go and kill this evil man. He goes, yes, my liege. He's a good dude. He's following his orders. He's following the law. And he goes and he kills the guy. And then he finds out only a few years later that that guy was an innocent man.
Starting point is 00:45:49 But he was following the law and he was doing good by what he thought was good. Whereas evil is like using the system to your own advantage. Lying and cheating and stealing, but doing it within the confines. So in that instance, the king would be evil, but the man serving him is lawful good, but you can still be used for evil in that instance, the king would be evil, but the man serving him is lawful good,
Starting point is 00:46:05 but you can still be used for evil then. Okay. I think the Democratic Party, the Republicans have a whole lot of lawful evil. It's a whole lot of lawful evil across the board. But if there's any party with any semblance of lawful good, it's the Republicans, and it's a very small amount. You know, like Matt Gaetz, I think, is a good dude.
Starting point is 00:46:21 I think Marjorie Taylor Greene is good. Mace. Thomas Massey, I think, is probably the most lawful good. And I disagree with him on a lot of things. But he very clearly is the most lawful good principal. He's like a paladin. Yeah. That guy.
Starting point is 00:46:33 You can count on him to do the right thing every time, which almost can be used against him. He's like a gnome paladin. A gnomish paladin. Interesting. I don't know if they have those. But he is. He's a tinkerer.
Starting point is 00:46:45 You know what I mean? Maybe he's just a lawful good tinkerer, not a paladin. Interesting. I don't know if they have those. But he is. He's a tinkerer. You know what I mean? Maybe he's just a lawful good tinkerer, not a paladin. Yeah, maybe he's a human. I don't know. Anyway, Lynch Mob, is there anything else you wanted to add? I don't know. We're kind of rambling now. Yeah, there's going to be a second part. What positions do you think he'd be the most useful for? RFK?
Starting point is 00:47:06 Yes. Head of Health and Human Services. Jeez, I don't know enough about what they all do. I'm like chief of staff, just because I think that's the most, what's the most influential role in the cabinet? Well, chief of staff is very influential for, I don't think it would be that, but even HHS oversees, Well, chief of staff is very influential for... He's not going to be chief of staff. I don't think it would be that.
Starting point is 00:47:26 But even HHS oversees, there's about nine major components to it. So certainly what he's done with the FDA, the CDC, Fauci's old department, like any of these things. But he could, in theory, also sit on top of them in some, you know, almost a deputy secretary role as well. It probably wouldn't be becoming of him. But we've talked also about, you know, the IC, the intelligence community, whether it be the FBI director or, you know, going and taking over the CIA and really running that. HHS is interesting, too, because it would put him in touch with a lot of border stuff because HHS handles unaccompanied minor children as they move through the border processing system as well. And they're expected to pass those children off to sponsors. And what we have right now is HHS hasn't vetted most of those sponsors.
Starting point is 00:48:33 So kids just come across the border and they go like wherever, you know. So if you have a human trafficker who says this child is sponsored by this person in Missouri or whatever, HHS will just deliver them to that person in Missouri and they're not vetted and they get lost in the system. I think we should put him in charge of the CIA because there's a lot of mundane stuff if we put him in charge of like health related issues. And there's just a lot of components. Yeah, I was thinking he doesn't have time for that.
Starting point is 00:49:02 What she's talking about in there. Exactly. CIA stuff is very direct oversight, which would be poetic justice. Well, I think Tulsi would be right for that role. Or maybe she'd be like Secretary of Defense or something. Could you imagine Tulsi Gabbard as DOD? I mean, that would be amazing. I don't know if that's going to happen, though.
Starting point is 00:49:19 Trump's got favors to fulfill. So there's donors who are expecting certain people. But Tulsi would be fucking epic. I agree. Well, yes, we do need to get to the last caller, though. So, Lynch, is there anything else you wanted to add? Because it's one term. He doesn't have a second term. He could do whatever. I mean, he's a free man once he's in the White House. Lynch, is there anything else you wanted to add? No, I mean, I was thinking maybe NIH nih but i like what you guys said about uh one of the heads of the intel communities uh just ian i love you no matter what tim says about you
Starting point is 00:49:55 raymond i'm proud of you what you're doing my man my man lynch right on yeah thanks for everything you guys do for the discord i could have talked about alignment all night thanks for calling in i just didn't want to crack that nut because i know we got some callers on the line all right next up we got my name is jed hey guys thanks for letting me call in really appreciate it what up so my question is with the way the primaries were run this year and the candidate that the libertarian party ended up with do you think that we'll see some significant changes for the primary process and all three parties in 2028 nope and do you think that political parties will have to change because of that nope nobody cares about them right libertarians well no but but even he's asking for democrats republicans as well of course
Starting point is 00:50:40 not right we're not gonna change based off his the democrats are excited they can install whoever they want republicans didn't do anything wrong. I think it was a standard and fair process, and Trump ended up winning. It was brutal. It was bitter. Friends became enemies. And the Libertarians are crackpots, and they're going to keep screwing themselves over and over again. So, you know, no changes.
Starting point is 00:50:58 Do you think they are supposed to change something? What do you got going on? Why did you ask the question? Well, I think that it has to change because of what the Democrats did this time. And the Republicans are actually playing the game the way that the Americans would expect them to.
Starting point is 00:51:14 Your audio is cutting out. Yeah, you're in and out, brother. You're in and out. I hear what you're saying, but what you're saying about the Democrats would need to change, things would have to change because of how the Democrats behaved. The Democrats are happy with how they behaved. They they love it.
Starting point is 00:51:30 They're super on board with it. And the Republicans keep changing to react. And one thing that's true, I think, of the Republicans today is that for the most part, they don't realize that the political system and the rules that they thought were in place have been completely obliterated. Republicans are still playing by the rules. Democrats are making up the rules as they go along, so long as they, you know, their entire rule is maintain power. So, I mean, if the Republicans were to change, change to what? And the libertarians, like, they got what they deserve. I think if it changes, it's going to likely change for the worse. Right.
Starting point is 00:52:06 I mean, the open primary system is really detrimental, particularly to Republicans. There should be no open primaries. There should be no open primaries. In New York, there's no open primaries. This is how you get Lindsey Graham in South Carolina. That's what happens. But, you know, ranked choice voting, like, they just elected a Democrat for Congress in Alaska. These are very invidious schemes that have been cooked up.
Starting point is 00:52:30 And when you say change, it's generally going in the wrong direction. So unless we get rid of open primaries, number one, that's a positive thing. But, you know, look at California. The Democrats just bypassed primaries altogether. Like, why would the Democrats even hold a primary next time why wouldn't they just say who their candidate is yeah that's what they did this time like what's the point like why even have a primary why even tell the voters who they could select until like two months before don't let anybody know you could argue they've been doing that for years right Right. But like now it's very transparent.
Starting point is 00:53:06 Yeah. This is the start of the authoritarian way of the world from the Democrats. Here we go. Who's ready? Do you think then if Trump doesn't win or if Trump does win that the Democrats have to switch to a new model
Starting point is 00:53:21 showing that this, you know, just setting somebody in doesn't work? If Trump doesn't win, why would the Democrats change anything? They'd just double down. You say if he does win for next time. Oh, if he does win. I feel like they're going to do the same thing. I think they don't care.
Starting point is 00:53:34 In 2028, I expect that the Democratic Party will continue as it's been. I think they also think that Kamala Harris is a throwaway candidate. So if she loses, they'll just do something else next time. I mean. Yeah, I think they're planning on losing, to be honest. You think so? Yeah, because Kamala and Waltz, maybe the reason they didn't choose Shapiro is because Shapiro's actually
Starting point is 00:53:52 a potential... He's like politically talented. I like Shapiro. Yeah, he's maybe a real backbencher for them. And they're like, let's not waste Shapiro. He might actually be a candidate next time around. I hate saying I like Shapiro, but I do, because he runs my state. So he's doing good. They're pushing out
Starting point is 00:54:07 the far left anti-Israel crowd. AOC's posing with a guy holding up a bring-them-back sign. These people are saying, aha, AOC's on our side now. And Cori Bush and Jamal Bowman are out. By 2028, the whole Jewish issue for the Democrats might be gone.
Starting point is 00:54:24 And Shapiro's actually talented. And he talks like Barack Obama, or however he does that. So maybe, maybe. But it is getting late, sir. Is there anything else you wanted to add? No, I just want to say Raymond, awesome to see you up on the stage there. It's great. Really glad
Starting point is 00:54:40 you made it up there. So thanks, guys, for putting him up there and all that stuff. More Raymond G. Stanley Jr. Thank you so much, Jed. Thank you, Jed. there. So thanks, guys, for putting them up there and all that stuff. More Raymond G. Stanley Jr. Thank you so much, Jed. Thank you, Jed. Thank you, Jed. Thanks for calling in, buddy. All right.
Starting point is 00:54:50 See you, man. See you later. Paul, thanks for hanging out. It's been fun. Yeah, my pleasure. Thank you for having me. Absolutely. For everybody else tomorrow, Michael Malice.
Starting point is 00:54:58 What? I didn't need to look that one up. I knew he was coming. Nice. Yeah, I was texting him. I was wanting to see when he was going to be here. Can I come on tomorrow? I'm just kidding.
Starting point is 00:55:04 Yeah, yeah, for sure. It's Ian, right? We do the same thing. I'll be here, yeah. Yeah, let's roll. Nice. Yeah, I was texting him. I wanted to see when he was going to be here. Can I come on tomorrow? Yeah, for sure. It's Ian, right? We do the same thing. Let's roll. It'll be a lot of fun with Michael. We'll be laughing the whole time and we're really glad that he's coming because we're big fans and we're friends. Hope you guys are ready for that one. Tomorrow at 10am
Starting point is 00:55:20 I'll be back live. YouTube.com slash TimCastNews. Thanks for hanging out. We'll see y'all then.

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