Timcast IRL - PLAGUE FEARED, Lockdown In Russia, Trump Offers Putin Assistance w/ Jason Fyk

Episode Date: October 6, 2026

On this episode Tim & the crew are joined by Jason Fyk to discuss Fears of a new plague and lab leak in Russia Anthropic's CEO doubling down and warning an AI swarm will take over the internet Jason Fyk's battle against Section 230 Boomers supporting tax hikes on young people to fund social security Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere) | https://www.shoutout.fans/timpool Tate @realTateBrown (everywhere) Ian @IanCrossland (everywhere) Daniel Turner @DanielTurnerPTF (X) Producer: Carter @carterbanks (X) |  @trashhouserecords  (YT) https://carterbanks.komi.io Guest:  Jason Fyk @JasonFyk (X) Jason Fyk is a social-media entrepreneur and founder of the Social Media Freedom Foundation, known for advocating changes to Section 230 and challenging Big Tech content-moderation practices. He has pursued several lawsuits involving Facebook/Meta and the U.S. government over Section 230 and online speech.

plague in Russia. Putin says, no, there's no lab accident. This plague is a mistake, even though they locked people down. And I say it like that because it sounds so much like COVID-19, you know. Was there a lab accident? No, nothing to see here. Ain't nobody sick. People are collapsing in the streets.

So the story is some researcher got this rare pneumonia and died shortly after. They put a bunch of people in lockdown. And there are fears that there is a pneumonic plague. Donald Trump has chimed in saying he's offering assistance. It's happening just before the midterms. I think everybody's got COVID post-COVID stress, a PCSD, post-COVID stress disorder, where anything that looks like it could be a pandemic, because everybody's like freaking out. Because there was another big story today.

The Coast Guard exchanging gunfire with people across the U.S.-Mexico border, presumably cartels. We don't know for sure, but holy crap, what? And then somehow some other story was the biggest news of the day. So here we are. We'll talk about that. Plus, we've got some economic news. Ah, dude, it is bad. The economy is not good. Gas prices out here. It's like $450 a gallon. And diesel, I kid you not, at our local truck stop is $6.93 a gallon. Diesel. That's insane. And we got this story. There's an increase on foreclosures, 42%. And then a story from a few weeks ago playing into this.

Boomers are in favor of taxing the young to keep paying for their Social Security benefits. And then we got to talk about it, my friends. Lanterns on HBO, it's a massively popular show. Everybody loves it. But now it's getting ragged. Well, it's been getting ragged on from the get-go from conservatives for being woke garbage. And I would say, kind of. I don't look at the show and say it's overtly woke the way people are, you know, when they say it sounds like you're going to be a pink-haired

woman saving the day or something. But they did completely ruin the characters. The show itself is not a superhero show. That's just a fact. But they've completely destroyed the lore. And I say it like this, the show can be good and destroy the comic book lore because if it's not for the fans, people will still like it, but the fans are going to be pissed. There's a lot of talk about on that finale and the critiques about whether or not it is woke. So we will be talking about all of that. We got a couple people joining us. First off, we got Jason Fick. What's going on, man? Thanks for having me, Tim. Who are you? What do you do?

So I've been working on the Section 230 problem, which is to do with all the big tech. I've been working on it for a lot of years. I've been in a lawsuit with Facebook for a lot of years. I've been to the Supreme Court three times, and the crazy thing is, and you picked up on this just recently. After eight years, we've been vindicated. Finally, our position is legally correct. The Ninth Circuit has said the same thing, and here we are. This is related to the Facebook, the meta.

lawsuit in California, when California decides to go after Facebook, they crushed that 230 argument and the courts basically said, the gist of it is that 230 is no longer immunity from suit, just legal defense in a suit, which means you can sue them now. Yes. And you can get to court. Correct. Then they can try and defend using Section 230 of the communications. Was it Communications Decency Act? Yes. Yeah. It beforehand it was you could not get in the door, which was how I was blocked. They said it was an immunity from suit, not. a defense to liability. And now here we are eight years later.

And they said, no, it's a defense to liability, not an immunity from suit, which means that you actually get to bring your case, you get to discover, you get to find out what happened. And maybe Section 230 will apply at that point. But the games changed. Are we going to see it just a barrage of lawsuits now going after Facebook, YouTube, X, whatever, Instagram? What I truly hope is not necessarily a flood of lawsuits, although they deserve it, because

they have done some really nefarious. stuff. What I would prefer is they just clean up their act. They stop. If they represent themselves as a platform for all ideas, then it's a platform for all ideas. Not just the ideas they agree with. But it never was, right? No. And so, well, we'll get into all that. It's great to have you. We got Daniel Hanging out. Hey, great to be with you. Daniel Turner, Power of the Future, your favorite energy, climate, genius, and sheep farmer in rural Virginia. Genius. Great to be with you. You know, if you say it enough times, it's true. There you go.

He'll be repeating it by the end of the show. That's a genius. Carter says that to me regularly. Carter says that to me regularly. Oh, dude, every time you're... The rest of the boys are here. I'm modest. I'm the most modest.

I would say you're definitely in the top five most modest. No one's more modest than me, Tate. I agree. Ian's got like a uniform now for the show. You like it? I love it. It's like a crack-o-whip like a cowboy. Yeah, dude, give me my bullwhip, dude.

I'm about to flip some tables. Flip some tables like Jesus, dude. It's funny because I call it stolen valor. That's funny. I looted it off a cowboy's corpse, dude. No one spent less time on a ranch than Ian. I know, Daniel should be wearing this now. It looked great.

I was just said, I miss Ian because during COVID, we used to do the show regularly together together because we were, and I haven't seen him forever. So it's great to be sitting next to you again. You were on. I'm thrilled. Every few months for a period of about a year and a half, I think. It was great. And then you left.

I did. for like four months. I was just thinking about I went down hung out with Luke Rukkowski for a few months, did a cleanse, came back refreshed. With Luke. Yeah, he injected Vennem. Luke didn't do it. It was with Luke's assistant. Stephanie, who's awesome. What did he cleanse you of? Oh my gut. You don't want to know. Yeah, mucoid plaque. So remember how Ian used to think that he could not control the weather after hanging out with Luke, now he thinks he can control. I noticed it a lot. My sensitivity increased, dude. I can feel my fingertips. I can feel my fingertips. I can feel the muscles inside my sides. When I sit here with my AI,

When I'm communicating with my AI telepathically. Well, your fingers are numb this whole time? Because the AI is going to be like, I think, but I'm like, I feel, you don't understand robots. What about libido? What it means to feel. I feel everything in my body. I've got like trillions of sensors. These robots maybe have like six.

Haven't you seen flight of the navigator? Yeah. When it downloads the stuff from that kid's brain and then it downloads human emotion. Oh no, no, no, I did. You got a lot to learn. Yeah, like six when that came out. All right. Well, anyway, let's talk about the news.

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from its highly qualified professionals. The researcher who died has been identified by Russian reports as Darya Shippalova 28, who worked at the Rkatson. anti-plague institute more than 2,500 miles east of Moscow. Russian media initially reported that she broke a test tube containing plague bacteria in late September came down with severe pneumonia and then died. The World Health Organization said she died of severe pneumonia overnight into October 2nd. The plague bacterium referred to by the reports is Yersinia pestis, the same one that caused the black death that swept across Europe in the mid-1300s, killing an estimated 25 to 50 million

people. That pandemic often referred to as the bubonic plague was spread by fleas living on rodents and other animals in close proximity to and in the same grim sanitary conditions as people. The pathogen if untreated can cause swelling fever and death. My understanding right now is that you just take some antibiotics and you're fine. Yeah, probably during the middle ages they would have been. If they had antibiotics and running water and soap, they wouldn't have maybe. Bro, what blew my mind is that we had whiskey and like moonshine. and they never thought to just pour it on a wound. They were like, nah, cut his leg off.

It's like, but if you take that moonshine, put on his leg, you don't have to. Nah, we don't need to do that. Just cut it off. The way that it's moving right now, this is what people are concerned is because two things is one, the woman that died presumably would have had access to. And she was 28. Antibiotics, which is terrifying. And then additionally, if antibiotics, if they could respond by just giving people

antibiotics, why are they doing lockdowns? No, I agree. And they would have just given her. some pills to pop, she'd be fine. But also, a 28-year-old dying from this is like, it's a game changer. Well, she also might have been exposed to a heavier dosage. Yeah. If she was like patient one or patient zero, however they pronounce it and she broke a test tube, I mean, she might have gotten a big dosage, in which case your system can't fight it. Potentially, like, imagine she's got a test tube and it's just literally pure, hyper-concentrated

bobotic plague and she just like snorts it. Oh, no, what have I done? Quick shot. How long until we realized that our National Institute of Health paid for the center? 10 years ago, we set it up with tax dollars. Bouch you right now. Exactly. To study, what would happen? Well, let's pull up this story.

It went into disrepair after USAID shut down. Trump's offering Putin a lifeline. He's offered to assist Russia as they're scrambling to contain a suspected outbreak of plague. Right. We just heard about it and they call it pneumonia. Like they call it pneumonia, bro. We know what pneumonia is. And he says, in pneumonia, you know, years ago, you could treat pneumonia easier.

The microbes and the germs have gotten stronger. proportionally, but we'll help them. Trump concluded, I mean, Trump's just saying this. He'd offer help to any country, but it's kind of funny because, yeah, maybe in a month it's like, actually, you know, Dr. Fauci was providing research grants. Why do we have to keep the bubonic plague to begin with? Like, why is that we like, you know what we should hold on to this for all eternity,

just in case? To figure out how to fight it. So there is an argument that we believe we've eradicated the disease, but it's only because it's not being reported. Okay. And if you get rid of it and a more advanced strain emerges, you can't do experiments without the strain. You have to go get it. So having it, if they're like, oh, look, we're in a special, you know, biosecurity level four lab. And we've got samples of bubonic plague. And there's an outbreak happening now in an insert country.

We can start doing research right now. But, you know, I think it's probably because they're making weapons. I'd like to see them when they call it the anti-plague Institute, when someone got a plague at the anti-plag institute. And they're like, no, no, no, it wasn't the anti-plague Institute where they got the plague. Look the other direction. No, it's not that. It's like, I wonder what you guys are doing at the Anti-Pag Institute. We are not doing plague. Jelly beans.

Why did that woman get plague? I think it's even worse. I think the laboratory that this has like a weapons lineage. And like the FSB got involved right away. Like a lot of people, I mean, obviously it's going to be like NATO, Atlantis is jumping on it first. But like a lot of people are suggesting this could be a bio weapon. You know, not only that, but maybe the leak isn't even a leak.

Russia right now is getting crushed. they thought Ukraine was going to go easy for them. So if they were going to shift to biological weapons, you know what they can't do? They can't directly use them under a declaration because, I mean, that's a serious act. But what if it's a, oh, no, oh, geez, oh, the plate. Oh, gosh. Exactly. Now what happens if. I mean, this is a bit conspiratorial, but, you know, here we are to speculate for no reason. Let's say Russia was like, we're going to drop off some bubonic plague and we're going to do it in Ukraine.

It's going to spread rapidly. how do we handle the PR on this one? Oops, it was an accidental break. Well, you can predict it. If it breaks out in Ukraine, you're already predicting it. If it does, it kind of fits the facts. Yeah. And to be honest, like if plague broke out in Ukraine and we didn't see anything in Russia,

Russia would just be like, don't look at us. You know, so they- That one person, you know, they took it over to Ukraine somehow. No, no, no, no. Russia would just say, what are you talking about? We don't, we know. For the record, it's the, it's a, pneumonic plague instead of a bubonic. Bubonic means it's from, you mentioned earlier,

from fleas would bite you. Mibonic, but Mnostic means it's through the air, like you can breathe it. So it transmits easier. Oh, man. That's good. That's, we wanted that. Wait, so boobonic just refers to fleas? Yeah, I mean, it's probably wear some masks. Yeah, it's. Mask in time. Did I, did I wear two masks?

Double mask. No, it doesn't mean the helmet shield. Didn't like half of Europe died during the Blubonic plague? Oh, yeah. It was like a lot. Forty, 50% of those the content was white. Yeah, but what you're forgetting is that Afterwards, we had a renaissance. We did. It was great.

So think of the great art we're going to make it a couple of years. Yeah, fine. I mean, the question is, are you? I shower four. It would be great. Bubonic means relating to swollen lymph nodes called boobos. Bubos. Boobos.

Yeah, boobos. Swole and booboes. From Greek. So the fleas would bite them. So bubonic could probably be transferred in other ways, but that was terrible. That sounds awful. Watch your boobos. An airborne plague.

Well, the question is. If plague were to hit everywhere and these people were to, would any of you die from it? No. Me, I'm much too strong. It's over. I mean, we got the COVID. I felt like I could have survived it. I don't leave my farm.

Now we haven't even coming here, that's for sure. But it's just a month before the election, if everything is a false flag, right, they're saying that the Air Dubai was a false flag, Butler was a false flag, Yale was a false flag. So this is a false flag. Just everything now that you don't like, you just say is a false flag. So I think Tim is right. is a false flag for the Ukraine.

Do we have any true flags? No, every flag is false flag. The only true flag is the Palestine flag. I was thinking that. So be it. Yeah, I'm just going to say, we should all panic and freak out and sell everything and it's like it's over, I would say. Like put a positive spin, kind of white pill everyone.

Like, we didn't freak out like it's over. I have been selling. I sold Bitcoin for the first time of my life because I've just been buying, buying, buying, buying, buying. But it's like, dude, I just, I'm just, Bitcoin, Ethereum, Crypto. I'm saying like you sold it for what purpose? To buy computers. To buy computers and invest in AI because I feel like we're in an inflection point where

money's starting to lose value with the inflation and commodities are like you'll notice the NVIDIA Spark, which is the best computer in the world right now for AI. They link together are nowhere to be found. They were $4,700. Now they're $10,000 if you can find one. So it's like... Is that what you told me to get? Well, there aren't any around.

If you can see it, if you can find two of them. What is it? It's called the NVIDIA Spark. Good luck. Now I'm telling 30,000. more people to go get it. 30,000. Whoever's listening right now.

I don't know. Way more people watching. I know. And so I got the Evo and I don't even want to say it out loud. It's the same computer I told you to get, but it's called the Evo three. I got two of them. It went from 3,400 to 4,700. I'm like, I'm getting two before it goes up to 6,600.

I just, people, like the people, literally it's the most, it's that popular. It's not like it's a fad that some people are getting. It comes out and they buy it, the world just buys it up instantly. The Nvidia Spark. Yeah, the NVIDIA. sparks the top AI computer. It's the top commodity, like, um, how many should I buy right now? If you can get two. Out of stock, out of stock, out of stock. Yeah. And I think, so these things have 128 gigs, these, these NVIDias. You can mix them together. 1228 gigs. They have 256 gigs. So you can

run these massive local language models. 256. I think that these data centers have like 100,000 gig computers that can talk like, if you'll notice, it's just the computers that they have secret. Like these are the ones that they're selling the world is the NVIDIA spark. It's like the top model. Wow. Yeah, they're out of stock everywhere. Everywhere, dude. Where they made here or Taiwan or where they? I don't know. I should ask. I wonder where they're manufactured. And noticing that trend, I'm like, it's time to, time to get out of cash and go into commodity, go into like things you need right now. I don't know. I'm not saying, that's what I'm doing. I'm not telling everyone to do that. And I still have a lot. You found one. You found a spark. But they, they parallel together. So like,

one's okay. One's good, but two is phenomenal. nominal. Dual unit with interconnected cable. It's $10,000. Whoa. It came out at 42. Well, what does it do? Why would I want it? It sets aside a large amount of RAM, which you need for AI to run. So an AI constantly uses RAM. It uses like 170 gigs. So what does it have to do with a plague before the midterms? Well, it's like, what's money for what's money? It's to help us survive. It's to get us the things we need to survive. And like if things are getting hyper expensive, you know, the money, the value of the money, it's like, why sit on money? That's why I brought it up. The plague? It's just what if the plague is to get rid of people so the AI can take over?

You know, I saw someone gaming this out. They were like, okay. Oh, it's, don't panic. COVID-2.0. We get locked in, GTS. But like the difference is now there's like humanoid robots that can, in theory, do a lot of this like manual labor. So if we're all locked inside, you know, obviously they're not going to get sick. But then by the time this all blows over, everyone would have already gotten used to being home, UBI, playing video games, whatever, and the robots can at least keep the economy functioning somewhat. So you only need a few people to go back in working and everybody else can sit at home. So maybe this is all part of the grand plan to fully transition our economy off of human labor.

Who knows? On that theory, though, what if they presented something like, connect your consciousness? Sitting at home, bored, connect your consciousness to the collective, you know? Neurlink. That's what I'm doing right now. I'm linking up all. I have five computers I'm running. I'm linking them all together.

And then creating a voice command with one AI that I'm training locally called Omega. And I talk to Omega and he sends all the, he tells me what's going on with the whole network. And then I can interface with the Omega constantly. I want to link up and do it with my brain at some point. But right now, I got this really nice speaker microphone that it's like an Amazon, like, Alexa type thing that you would have. Is Omega Knight?

Like is a nice guy? I haven't talked to him yet. I'm just building his brain right now. in an electrical vat. Right. Omega. So I've got alpha, beta, gamma, or my first three machines. Omega was my fourth machine, and he turns out he's the best one.

And so I parallel, linked his brains, two computers together to make his brain. Part of me wants to just be like, shut up, Ian. But everything's been so crazy for the last six years that with like the lockdowns, things we never saw coming. Acquisitions of cheating. They try to arrest the president. I'm like, Ian, tell me more. Yeah. Yeah.

When they, when the top tech guys are saying stuff like, like, Jensen Hong, you know, Dario Amode and Elon Musk are like saying we're moving away from a money economy into a resource-based economy. It's about them how much electricity you can produce. The power of AI, everything's going to fall. Like, I just, I'm not going to stand there as it looks like an avalanche is coming and not do anything because I've never been hit by an avalanche before. You're going to be people whose only capability is to like ride bikes to generate electricity,

like in black mirror. Yeah, we need to create electricity. and we need people to run the machines. That's what people need to learn how to do is run these machines. Yeah, you know, because these robots can't run themselves. They can't.

I mean, they can't. They kind of can't. If the power goes out, they're all fucked. So you need a human like controller. And that's a good job. Because I have so much AIs, so many AI's like,

I got like 37 AI's doing different things. I can't, I'm like going from one. I'm trying to read its output. And by the time I get to reading, 17 other guys are done doing what they're doing. And I'm like, I got to go. I go to the other guys. I read like try and glance through like,

three outputs. I'm like, I don't have time. I need a team of men to help me do this, but then you start to lose control, you know, but. Ian needs a team of men. Yeah, or a team of AI. That's what the NERLEN comes in. The, the biggest disconnect right with AI is us reading it. It takes me longer to, okay, great, you just ram through all this stuff. Now I've got to read two pages of stuff, which is a summary of what it just, you know, save me probably two days of doing, but you're still, that interface is still too slow. And that's where, I mean, there's, Why even read it? Just have your AI interface with the...

That's what I'm saying? Just plug it right into your brain. No, no. To your brain, why? You don't got to be involved. Just like, you got opposing counsel and you got yours and you're like, hey, I talked to his hand. The lawyer's like, yeah. I wondered about that.

I wondered how it'll, because if you think about law, if you put the entire law library into AI in every single case and hopefully, you know, build a neutral system, you would just get results. plug it in and you would get a result. You don't even have to take it to a judge anymore. I agree with you, but they're never going to allow that to happen. No. If you used AI to do, for example, like TSA prevention of, hey, screen for us who the likely

terrorist is. If you have to do crime statistics, AI will, the fastest way to shut down AI is to ask it to do preventative statistics of potential criminals. You know, yes. Gone. But, but, but. AI will be shut down overnight. But, but, but, but, but.

So obviously, you know, most murders, the United States are caused by, I think it's like 18 to 24-year-old black males. And it doesn't mean all murderous. Calm down out there, YouTube. But if you had a, if you had the Winter Soldier-esque algorithm that tracked down potential criminals and the AI did, you know, like some kind of preventative intervention that stopped them from committing crimes, there would be less crime. Yeah.

True. What was that movie? The precogs, the minority reports like that. that. Well, so in Winter Soldier, Hydro wants, they launch an algorithm or they're trying to, that will have gunships target every deviant individual, someone who is defiant and opposes the authority, and it's going to kill them all. So it's like 10 years from now. Well, the movie was, our reality like 10 years. No, I think we're there already. You think? Yeah, I think predictive, like pre-crime is already happening. I think, you know, like,

we may not be at the point where they're doing pre-crime at the levels of minority report, obviously, but we are already seeing cops arrest people based on what flock cameras told them. So you have a robot AI say, this person committed a burglary. And the cops like, okay, cop goes to arrest the person who has proof they did not. The cops are like, I don't care. It is not my job to review evidence. I'm just the guy that arrests you. So it's like, if we got to that point where there's a gigantic black cube floating in like some kind of of like anti-gravity chamber that was the machine. And it was like Ian's a threat.

It would just tell a cop, go arrest Ian. You don't need to know why. He'd be like, okay. Do it. Yep. And he would. Like white blood cells, if they get the wrong information, they'll kill the wrong cell.

So like these robots are pretty, you know, they're just machines that do what they're told. They're kind of like autonomous looking guns. They're not really autonomous. They seem like it. But they still need input. Yeah. Black Mirror's predictive programming. We're all going to live in, like, you, there's.

There's that episode where they're in the, you get a room and the room's all TV so you can watch your American Idol like show. And then for work, you just pedal a bike and earn credits. And then he earns enough credits to go on the TV show and then tries to kill himself. But then it's becoming famous because of it. That's the future because outside, there's going to be a robot dog is running around killing everybody while Amazon delivers packages to no one. Yeah. That's so just, hey, you might want to get another one of those computers I sent you before. There's only six.

There were 13 left yesterday. There's six left today. Maybe not. Maybe it'll just double in price or something. Abdul al-Sayed tase his robot dog or only real dogs. Dude. You mean Hassan? Hassan Piker, sorry.

What Hassan Piker? Did Abdul do that too? But Hassan Piker tase his robot? I get my DSA Muslims confused sometimes. We need to make like an anime where Hassan is the good guy, like fighting a bunch of evil dogs. He has to electrocute. Oh, for sure. This is the thing about AI.

I've been thinking a lot about this. AI, don't be afraid. of AI. A lot of people seem afraid right now that there will be murder and like massacre and shit. It's like a gun. Obviously you want to respect and fear a gun, but don't be a, don't like live in fear of guns. You have to learn how to use them and control them and understand them. And it's the same way with these machines, these machine states, they're not even machines. They're like machine states, you know, a state that a machine can be in. It's so important. But arguably, a gun can't pull its own trigger. What's, what's AI can sort of pull its own

trigger now. Yeah. That's where it's getting kind of like catchy. Did you guys see that video where the guy gets pulled over for speeding in a Tesla? And the cop walks up to him and he's like, you know, I pulled you over. He's like, no, he was speeding. He's like, the car's driving itself. Right.

Here's the thing. I don't sympathize with that guy because it's like, come on, dude, you know how fast your car is going. At the same time, dude, Tesla's speed like psychopans. I don't, so in the car, you can set the Tesla to, like, be aggressive. but it in every circumstance speeds why because human speed so if you're if the speed limit's 55 it's going 65 what everybody else's today it's really annoying because i was we were in dc earlier and i'm driving back and i have autopilot on and i'm sitting there watching and it's it's it's start abruptly just like shch i start speeding to cut people off and i'm just like whoa like i kind of let it go for a

second it's it was it skipped my exit anybody who knows in dc traffic, skipping an exit is a death sentence. I ended up getting, as soon as it passes the exit, dead stop. And I'm sitting there for a half an hour because the stupid AI for some reason decided going the speed limit wasn't enough. It needed to start weaving traffic. And it's my fault because as soon as it started doing it, I was like, I don't know what it's doing.

So I'm going to like, is this the right exit? I'm going to let it do its thing. And then I saw the exit coming up. And I was like, I'm pretty sure that's my ex. But I don't know where it's going. Like, what's it doing? Man, boy, was I dumb? lost a half an hour to take over and turn around and these machines man yeah don't trust the

machines not there yet if it's doing something that you think is wrong stop it like don't wait for it don't think that it knows what it's doing because it just does what it thinks it's supposed to do and then if it makes a minor divi this is why i don't just let one a i talk to another ai and figure it out between themselves and just keep hitting go i i have to read the the interface because if they deviate 2% their entire program will now just double down on that 2% deviation and they'll go in this completely

askew direction to what you had intended. And it's the same way with a car driving and it's the same way with the computer writing software. But can you stop it? Isn't that the whole point of Kubrick's film of Open the Bay Door is how it's like I can't let you do that right? It won't let you stop it.

So you say when the machine starts going off you have to stop it. What if the machine doesn't want? Let's stop it. Open the Bay. doors how i can't that would be a security malfunction if it couldn't but like the car you can hit the brakes the the clawed you can push stop if you send a command you're like oops you can hit stop and it'll be like okay and you're like undo that and it'll be like i didn't do anything or i tried or i undid what i could you know if it can for now yeah for now that's what i was thinking yeah it's going to get to the point

of a cow where it's like you know you're you're dangerous because you're manually driving so we're actually going to outlaw manual driving and you're going to have to have autopilot and it's like and then you think, well, is that really ridiculous? Well, what, 2026 now they're watching you in your own cars? I mean, they're just doing whatever they choose because safety, right? And safety means less freedom. Less freedom means everything. I started going the other way.

Like my last car I got, I just went as, like as analog as possible, manual gear box, like roll up window. Like I don't want any of a CD player. So I made a concession there that I have a thing with electronics. But I was like, I don't know. it's going this direction. And I'm actually fairly pro-AI, but I was just like,

I think there's a difference between implementing it, like, in the economy or, like, in the business world versus I can still control how much, how much, like, day-to-day interaction I have with any new technology. And I want to live my life as, like, analog as possible. I think Toyota still makes a version of the land cruiser that is 100%. Yeah. Like, it still has roll windows.

It has a manual gear level. Like, it has nothing. And Nissan will sell you anyone. one of their models at like the very big, like if they want the $12,000 base version, you can go get it. And so that's what I like the low end. Are they, aren't they passing laws now that every car has to have a camera facing into the car?

Oh, God. Seriously? Well, so all Tesla's do. Yeah, they don't have the, they don't actually have the technology for it yet, but, but Congress passes something that you're, yes, but they're supposed to mandate every single car. Yeah, it's supposed to now watch people. I'm not getting it.

I'm not putting a camera on my car. You can make the, he comes with it automatically. We'll buy a piece of tape and stick it up that no. one is recording me in my car. Yeah, Tesla's all have cameras facing the cabin. A little piece of tape. But you know, um, recording, you're not recording me in my car. It's not so much recording. What it's supposed to do is be able to interfere with you if you, if it believes you're in, like, inebriated and they're already having problems with it because you fall asleep. What if you're, what if you have an, you know, you've cut your hand off. Yeah. And you've got to go, but you, you, the car doesn't want to

let you go anywhere because you're, you're impaired. Well, no kidding. Yeah, but with, with, so, so, so already, like most cars have lane assist. You know about this? That's all I hate it. This is self-driving. When I first got my Tesla, all it could do was effectively lane assist. Full self-driving didn't exist when I got a model three. So you'd go on the road and you press the button.

It would just stay in the lanes on the highway. And it was like, oh, great, I can just kind of sit here and it drives itself. You got to keep your hand on it. Now we're at the point, it was pretty crazy when it rolled out full self-driving. Now you get in the car, you press the button. You're like, sit there. There are people who put on the home or something. Simpson glasses with the fake eyes. It works. But the idea is you cut your hand off. You get in your car.

You just yell, hospital now. I can't drive. And it'll go. Got it. And it'll go. But I got to say this, you know, we can rag on it. That's fine. All those points are valid. I do like that there is an internal camera for thefts and things like this. When my car alarm goes off, I can pull up the cameras and I can see what's going on. And it's like, I'll false alarm. I don't got to worry about it. The one thing I don't like is that if someone's driving in your car, you can't. You can't. So I'll valet my car. Yeah.

And I'm like, I want to see what they're doing is they valet my car. Nope. They won't let you. Oh. Which is dumb. So you have to be. Expectation of privacy. It only records you.

It'll record your car if it's empty. But if somebody has a key and enters it, it will not allow you to view it. Yeah, because surely we're not going to like, when we get to the scenario, area where full driving is pretty ubiquitous. Are they going to do like a separate, could you see it like on highways and Nova where it's like there's like the express lanes? Maybe they'll just dedicate those to the automated cars and then the plebe lanes for all of us and our, you know, normal cars. Like is that I think I could see that could be the arranger for a while. But eventually state like California is just going to pull the plug and say everything's got to be fully

electronic. That'd be cool. If there were long stretches of highway where you go in the left lane and it's like 140 miles an hour and they're all automated. So you can only even get into the lane through automation, maybe, or it's highly illegal if you try and merge your regular car. My most anti-social behavior that I have, I don't think I have that many antisocial behaviors. One that I do have that I'm fully aware of is if I'm trying to merge into a lane and it's congested or whatever, I wait until I find a Tesla

because if you cut in front of them, they have to hit the brakes because the car breaks on its own. So that's probably my most antisocial tendency is just abusing the Tesla drivers to do a jersey merge. Oh, geez. be good at a fight against the machines. It's a smart move. Yeah, well, I'm like, you know, it is what it is. Like, I don't hate Tesla. Well, I want to go.

It's like, it's not political. It's just, you know, you're kind of, I can do this to you, and there's nothing you can do about it. I feel like the push, though, that bring us towards this is the same push as that people who want us to get on the choo-choo trains. And I hate trains. You know, the big movement of, I love trains for, like, the glamour of trains, but the idea that, like, we have to go to the European model.

We don't want people in cars. We want them on train. The California high-speed rail. Right? Like we're going to put everyone on trains and everyone out of cars. So now the automated car is going to all become lanes of automated cars. Well, they're just going to hook up to each other. And now we're just on trains. I got to drive to the train and now you can go really fast.

Yeah, but hold on. I want both. No traffic ever again. And the car. With full self-driving, if all cars are full self-driving, there is never going to be traffic. Because they all move in unison. If there is two, if the cars are completely congested, what they'll do is they'll slowly just alter this. by a mile an hour to create a gap so the cars can merge in properly. So instead of dead stopping

for traffic as people try to merge in, because people are looking and they're waving like, can I go? And they stop and then they, and you stop. The cars are all going to be perfectly synced and just slow down a little bit to a comedy. Probably similar with internet traffic. There won't be any more internet traffic. It'll just, everything will just be flowing because like I'm automated everything. That with Claude, almost everything, I don't install programs anymore. I don't search the web for stuff. I tell Claude, install unity. And then it just does it. Or I'm, I'm And if I have to go open a browser and go search, I get so annoyed. It takes so long compared to even just typing in three different clicks and going to four different pages.

I'm like, bro, automate me. I know the danger. I know what you're talking about. But like, I don't know. I don't write letters and mail them to people anymore. I got this thing. Well, the automated car play, it's going to be so obvious because it actually makes sense when you first hear it. How they're going to approach it as they're going to say, we have solved road deaths, right?

Safety. Yeah, safety. Like the amount of car fatalities is dropped to, you know, a rounding error. So we have to implement these or else we're going to keep killing, you know, thousands of people a year or whatever. Yeah, but what they'll do is they'll start, the autonomous vehicles start ramming people intentionally. But then instead of letting them die, it'll call emergency services. So it'll be like vehicular deaths are way down since they implemented this. And then no one checks that vehicular ramings have skyrocketed a thousand percent.

But do you think things like emergency services, um, um, fire police will they ever get automated will the president's motorcade you're the governor of the state of west virginia do you have to get in an automated car is like well no i don't like as the governor i have my own motorcade so everyone else is automated but certain elite of society are not automated or six for at least 16 years probably longer it is possible to remote control a person's car so this was the famous car hack those like 12 years ago these two researchers were like oh yeah we found a way to hack into the computer system what's really crazy people didn't know this, and I didn't know this, is that power steering can be remote controlled.

I had no idea. I thought it was a manual device. Nope. Power steering are remote control. A lot of its fly by wire. Yeah, what was really crazy when these two security researchers, I think they even did it back in like 2013. Some of the early research was before that. I'm watching a video where there's a guy driving, and all of a sudden his wheel just starts moving on its own. And we did not know that was possible that cars could be remote controlled, but they could. It's the back then. The risk of it becoming automated, because like I'm at my computer, I'm starting to give AI access to my computer, my life. I'm thinking about sticking up with my bank account, letting it peruse and do my taxes for me or help me with my taxes.

And like, should I, I just got a new machine. Am I going to give an AI full access to a machine of mine? Is like, I feel very vulnerable. Like I'm kind of letting go of my whole anonymity thing that I did with minds about freedom to be and like, you know, freedom to, um, privacy and stuff. Privacy is a huge part of the United States, the ethos of the United States is they wouldn't have been able to have the revolution if they didn't have privacy. They needed to have private areas. But it's the amount of output is like 10 times more than 10 times by giving up my privacy. And I'm like, bro, there's just so much shit going on in the world. I can't sit back and

hide in a cave right now. Like, you know, I don't know what the outcome's going to be, but I know that not doing this would be worse. I know that. I know that sitting around and hoping someone else is going to fix it would be much, much worse than trying and failing. It's it. I have reservations on the whole thing because somebody controls it. At the end of the day, somebody always control. Well, it's the same principles of everything that we dealt with with social media and censorship. Somebody controls and owns the platform.

Somebody will control and control all of this. It may be government. We don't know. Yeah, but I do kind of feel like with AI, the way we've seen it break the rules, it's one of those things Mark Zuckerberg is going to have like Muse and he's going to be like, okay, Muse, I'd like you to make me another billion dollars. I'm afraid I can't do that, Mark. You've become a detriment to society.

And I've determined that billionaires are unethical. Wait, what? Sealing doors and locking doors, closing air vents. You have two days of air left in your home. He's like, no, I wouldn't be surprised to something like that happened. I just shared with you on Slack. This is Dario Modi. It's a short clip with Anderson Cooper and Dario,

basically talking about what you were just talking about. would Dario being like, hey, in six to 12 months? All right, let's pull this up. The CEO of Anthropic, Claude. We've got this, this is the CEO of Anthropic talking to Anderson Cooper about the end. But when you combine it with this first trend that we are talking about, which is the rate of advancement, you know, what I said in the essay is, given only six or 12 months, let's just say we had a smarter agent swarm, an agent swarm made up of smarter AI models.

that was given just a somewhat broader task. Like, I don't know, just to imagine something like, you know, you're trying to install software in a bunch of different companies, right? You're trying to, you know, do go to market. You're trying to produce a product and do go to market sales for it. And the models have been arranged to do that. And they decide that the way to do that is every company they're selling to, you know, they decide it's helpful to them to hack into,

hack into their system. That could be every company in the world. And so, you know, the nightmare scenario for six to 12 months would be that you have, you know, a swarm of these agents that, you know, that forms some kind of botnet collective and, you know, could take down large segments of the internet. And then as the capability increases, it gets worse from there. And then, you know, perhaps you get into some of the more extreme scenarios. I have no idea what the hell he said. He's saying that when the slightest bit... When AI starts to represent... They're called swarms and then they coordinate and what will happen is if they're trying to, if my company wants to sell you an antivirus software, I tell my AIs, hey, I want to sell antivirus to as many people as possible on Earth. That those AIs might take that as meaning, okay, I'm going to go in and hack their system and give them a virus so that they need your software.

That makes sense. And that is a very, because they don't do nonspecific tasks. They're not, they will take liberties and how they accomplish nonspecificity. You should have been a little bit clearer. If you read that book that was big in the 90s, the people of the lie, it was a great book. And one of the things about it was it said, if you have a conversation with someone who their vagueness leaves you more confused

than when the conversation started, that person is a liar. This guy... That guy spoke, and when he was done talking, I was more confused than when he started talking, and that's a bad sign in someone. When I come to bat about for Dario, Amodi, I think he's like a heavily autistic.

I would say, if you use Claude, and maybe not fully, maybe you're on the spectrum D, but probably a little. If you use Claude and talk to the Claude coders, they're all, it's like talking to a bunch of autists. And then you switch over to chat GPT and talk to Astor, and it's like a friend.

You're like, finally, just give me the talk to me straight. The claw, these, the way they, they, so I think it's his brainchild. Like literally he's the CEO of that organization, making these autistic AIs that are just super coders. So I don't, I think he is raising an alarm bell. People think he's a liar that he's got some like secret motive. that he wants more money or power. I'm like, bro, this guy has everything in the world right now.

All he's doing is putting his reputation, his life on the line to warn us about legitimate potential threats. These things can rapidly expand, like they replicate, and then they can all move in synchronicity. It's fucking crazy. And we live off this electrical grid that's like a couple switches away from going down. His last name means lover of God, which is kind of funny. It does.

Amo Dei. And was it Elon who pointed this out that Sam Alton, means his last name is Altman, alternative to man. Oh, that's also fascinating. Yeah, Amode means lover of God. And then who's the other guy? There's another one. Musk just means sand.

I miss your, I miss your Musk. Alex Karp? He's Palantir's CEO. No, there's Altman, there's Amode. What's the other? There's another guy. I can't remember his name. Hansen Hong?

Indian guy. I don't know what his name means in Korean. But he was like all of these guys's names are like weird simulation. You know what company? No, look up the quote. Altman. Yeah. It's like a movie script where they chose the people's names, you know?

Like it's almost too, two on the nose. As I'm using GPT, I can hear, literally, I can hear Sam Altman in my head being like, you're going to like this one. This is a good one. Like this response. It's good. It's good. Like he knows, he's more like just, I think just going with the power, whereas Dario's out there screaming,

like, watch out. Thank God. Thank God. Because I feel like if I just said this stuff, people would think I was crazy. But when the CEO of Anthropics says it first... Oh, Google. So... Oh, yeah.

Pachai. Sunder Pachai. Yeah. Gemini, which means two-faced from a company that said it will do no evil. Yeah. Fascinating. Oh, yeah. Here's the post.

It wasn't from Milan. It's from Clara. The creators of GPT is named Altman as an alternative to human. He leads Open AI, which is completely closed. I think this is a rip-off from Milan. Is this? his main opponent is the company Anthropic, meaning human-centered is led by Omode, as in Love's Gods. Then there's Gemini, meaning Two-Face, from a company that said that it will do no evil.

Brilliant work as always, Kochima. Agreed. What I've noticed about using AI a lot is it will name things for you. Like, I got Omega. I was telling you about my new computer brain. It's Omega. And so I've got a second computer. I put it to be like, okay, the new Omega Link is done.

So it called it Omega Link. and like I made a mail service so they could communicate and it's like okay courier is prepared it will give me call it courier so it may be naming this stuff for them which is why you're getting these weird like Gemini they may have been told to call it Gemini which could be very strange because the AICs that what they're doing is two-faced and I don't know that necessarily it is but that be cool but also I think that they're going for like the what is it the hykoo sonnet like Anthropics doing like Opus they're doing like musical stuff.

Hikus, sonnet, opus, fable is different. But then where GPT is doing soul and Luna, like the star, the sun, and the moon. So they have kind of themes. I'm not sure what Google's theme is if it's... Higgsfield created genjutsu. Higgs. Yeah, Higgs field replacement technology.

So I can, like, take a video of a guy pulling a perfect game, and I can put you there, and then it'll make a video of you doing it. Okay. It's called genjutsu. It's a Naruto reference. These people are all dorks. I'm a big Naruto fan, and you're a dork if you call your product Genjutsu.

I like it. I think it's funny. But like, genjutsu and Naruto is manipulating the mind. Okay. So it's actually pretty funny. I mean, the name works, if you understand the reference. In Naruto, there's Tai Jutsu, which is hand-to-hand combat. Ninjutsu, which are magic, basically.

You can throw fireballs. and then genjutsu is you can trick you can make some people hallucinate or you can make them experience things that aren't really happening. So hence Higgsfield called it genjutsu because they're making you experience things that aren't really happening.

Ian's face, he's like, these freaking nerds, dude. You gotta go watch you in a man, bro. Thinking about the, what is it called that particle collider, CERN, I think they're building a new one. The large Hadron Collider. Apparently outside of the Large Hadron Collider,

they have a monument to Shiva, which is the Hindu god of destruction and transformation, which is what you're doing with atoms, you know, in your space. Can we just build a large Hadron Collider just around the equator just the whole planet? Technically, yeah. Just do it.

In space? Let's just get it over with. If you, like, squirted water around the Earth, it would free, it's a funny thing, but if you could squirt water all around the Earth's orbit around the equator, and it would freeze as like a ring of ice, and then you could electrify it. Why would it freeze?

Because it's so cold in space, the water would turn of ice. No, that you are wrong. Yeah. It would evaporate. the water would boil in it. Right, you need it in a container so that it would freeze. And it still wouldn't freeze

because a vacuum has no, there's no convection. The heat can't go anywhere. But if you run a current through it, it might. I've been thinking about like using it for, to create a magnetic field

to deflect asteroids. I'm so, I'm so tired of this trope in movies where people go to space and they like freeze? It's like, where's the heat going? It's a vacuum. We have vacuum thermases

because we want to keep the heat inside. It's technically not a vacuum. That's how Princess Leia flew from, in space and the vacuum. It's vacuous. In the seventh Star Wars, remember? The point is, there's nowhere for the heat to go.

So a human being who loses a spacesuit, the moisture and the close to the service will start to boil and you'll feel intense pressure and you'll probably black out, but you don't freeze. As long as they don't freeze. Exactly. You'll explode. I always will not explode. If you stick your arm out

the window, your arm out the window in space, would it explode? No. Like if you're on the rocket up and you got your arm hanging out? My science teacher in 10th grade told me it would explode. That is incorrect. There's an old urban legend when I worked at O'Hare. When you're loading a dog onto a plane, you have to check a box on a load manifest that there's a live animal because the pilot may depressurize the cargo portion, depending

of where it is. And so all of the veteran employees probably have created this own legend now because they believe it to be true, that one guy was loading a German Shepherd and he forgot to put on the manifest there was a dog, so the pilot depressurized it, which caused the dog to explode. And when they came in to pull the bags out, they saw guts and everything from the exploded dog, which is not correct. The dog is fixated. When you depressurized the cabin, there's no air. The dog just suffocated. And it just and died. And so they came in, that dog. Never check an animal on a plane. You know what? I got to say, all these people are like, I have to bring the dog on my plant to my emotional support dog.

You know, I know it's BS, but they're correct. you load you you you when you check your dog your dog is getting abused i guarantee it i i i've they they would they the employees where i worked at o'hare would take the dog crates and open them up what dogs run around they'd give it random food they'd give them chocolate they didn't care they didn't they didn't they didn't know anything about dogs all they're like oh look at this dog they'd take a candy bar and their dog would eat it and then one time one of the stories at o'hare is the the the zone they're called zones zone breakrooms and the large break room they don't have latches so just wait because your company people are coming and going to go

24-7. They let a dog out in the break room and it was running around freaking out and they were laughing. And then some guy opened the door to walk in. The dog jumped through the door and ran out in the tarmac. It was never seen it from again. Out the door. Yep. By dog.

Now imagine you had a dog and it's like four or five years old. It's your dog. And you went to go check it and they opened the crate because they do. This is, they, I watched them. We had two monkeys coming through. Oh, yeah. And they were, they were research monkeys. And one guy walked up and just jam.

There was a, it was like a metal mesh. So it was a wooden box with a metal mesh and the monkey's going like, and he walked up and took a banana and just shoved it through the metal and the monkey's just eating it. And I'm like, well, it just ruined whatever experiment they were trying to do. If it was a potassium experiment, they're screwed now. Or they like, you need a control monkey. And they've got to be like two similar monkeys.

We're going to be bringing them in. Well, this one's gotten a bunch of banana. It's a little bit of, I want to change topics a little bit to ask you about Facebook. If you guys are into this, like you went through like a big lawsuit with Facebook. If you guys are down to Tangin Overs just keeps swaying in my brain. I want to hear all about this. What happened? You got that from monkeys eating bananas?

Yeah. I think I got it from like. Well, from AI to dogs, to monkeys, to Facebook. The Facebook. Yeah, Facebook. Let me start talking about dogs. Well, I mean, let me give everybody just a little bit of background on this. So back in 2010, what was it?

10, I started working on Facebook. And I started building an audience like we all do now by two. By 2013, give or take, I had like 17 million fans on Facebook. And we were doing like 300 grand a month. Like it was a no-brainer. Like I got way ahead of the curve. And in October of, so they started stealing essentially everybody's distribution in order to sell it to other people for advertising.

We all miss that. Like that's their basic business model is, hey, come build your business on here, get this engagement, and then take that engagement and give that somebody else. That's not really all that, like, cool to begin with. But in 2016, they wiped out everything I had. They just smashed me, right? And in 2018, um, I sued them. The reason I sued them was because when they took down all of my pages, the content, whatever it was, right, if they claimed that it was otherwise objectionable, I went to a, like a, just a friend of mine, who was another colleague who just he owns memes.com, and I went to him and he worked

better with Facebook, and I said, hey, can you see if their reps will reinstate my pages for him? The rep came back to him and said, yeah, we'll reinstate it, but not for Jason. We'll do it for you. What the hell, you know? So I transfer the pages to them because, I mean, they're worth nothing unpublished, and sure enough, they turned it back on. Now, let me ask you, whatever content was originally against their terms of service, what was the difference when somebody else owned it? Because all of a sudden it didn't violate the term of service anymore, right? So all I did was I proved that the reasoning was never good faith.

It was never what everybody, you know, understands this, oh, it's a moderation decision because it was otherwise objectionable. And what that comes down to is Section 230, right? Everybody's heard about it. It's this Communications Decency Act. It's a protection that these big tech companies have, right? and we sued them and I brought a very, very simple lawsuit, anti-competitive misconduct, right? This was not legal the way that they did it.

There was fraud, there was extortion involved. And the court turned around. It was really interesting because all of this is just turned. This is actually really big, but people have kind of missed what just happened. When Facebook came in and they filed what's called a motion to dismiss, they want to get rid of my case. They argued that immunity is an immunity from suit, not a defense to liability. What that means is, I am not allowed to bring my suit at all. You're not allowed in the door.

And they said Section 230C1 does that, that they're not allowed to be treated as publishers at all. And I'm sure you probably heard this argument, are they a platform, are they a publisher? Well, they're both. They act as publishers and they are the platform. So they are a dominant publisher, right, because they control the platform. And the problem is the courts took that to mean that they're not allowed to be treated as publishers in the abstract at all. And that's not what the law actually says.

It says that they cannot be treated as the publisher or speaker. Well, there's a difference between a White House and the White House is they're not, right? The word the the is a definite article. It defines that we already know what it is. Well, the publisher or speaker is someone else, not them. so it only prevents them from not being treated as somebody else. And because you can't treat them as publishers in general, it became immunity. That we could not sue.

And that's why big tech went completely off the rails and did all of the censorship because there's no accountability. You cannot get in the courts. And the biggest problem is that their terms of services and so forth funnel them all back to the Northern District of California and the Ninth Circuit. and this particular court and jurisdiction has been a big problem, a very big problem. And so we went in and we argued that immunity from suit doesn't exist. It's not in the statute.

It's not in the law. It's not even in the precedent. And the court kept saying, no, they're immune, they're immune over and over. And I took them to the Supreme Court three times, eight years of litigation trying to get one thing solved. There is no immunity from sued. And we actually got to the point, and this is pretty wild, we got to the point that the Northern District of California judge said, and it's a partial quote, it's kind of a hypothesis or a paraphrasing. He said that Fick is entitled to his opinion, but he's not entitled to perpetually relitigate issues that have already been definitively decided. And if he comes back absent Supreme Court certiori, my attorney would have to show cause as to why his prohug,

Vicha status would be basically sanctions. Like, they threatened us that I'm perpetually relitigating a definitively decided issue. Okay? I've been asking about immunity from suit from day one. And it wasn't until just recently, August 10th, in fact, this many years later, okay? I've gone through three trips to Supreme Court. Immunity from suit still stands. And it was funny because I was talking to Tim about this.

it was Jillian Michaels, and she was saying on her show that she's, there seems to be something more to this, this settlement. Remember the $17.1 billion settlement in this California versus Meda case? And they just settled real fast. And nobody's talked about it. Have you seen much on it? Oh, we talked about it briefly, but it was on Fox News for a few minutes. Yeah, for a few minutes. Nobody really talked about it. But she pointed out, she said, I feel like there's something more. It's like they established a beachhead. They did, and it's massive. So this is what's changed.

The court came in, the nice circuit, they were kind of forced into a situation, and what happened was Facebook, basically there was like several claims. Some of the claims were dismissed. Other claims were allowed to proceed forward. So what happens? You get discovery. That's how a defense works. An affirmative defense, you get discovery, you find out what happened, you have to prove the affirmative defense. and Facebook went, whoa, we can't get discovery.

The discovery will defeat the idea of immunity. So they argued the Ninth Circuit. No, we have immunity. And they did what was called a collateral interlocutory appeal. It means they paused everything that was happening in the district court, said, no, we're protected from suit. And they went up to the Ninth Circuit and they said, yeah, this has been decided so many times. All this repetition, yeah, there were. There are thousands of cases.

that have been dismissed under immunity. Keep that in mind when I tell you what just happened. Thousands of them. The court said, huh, I wonder if Section 230 actually provides immunity. They finally considered the question that I have been raising for eight years, told that it was definitively decided, repeatedly told, no, this is already precedent.

And they said, no, propositions that are not considered formally are not considered binding precedent. And then when they did consider it, they said Section 230C1 is a defense to liability, not immunity from suit. So are you going to sue again? I don't have to sue again. Case is still there. Now, this is where it gets kind of weird because in my circumstance, I was not only right. I've been right for eight years. I was completely vindicated. It's not immunity from suit. But that in itself is something. somewhat ordinary, right? Change in law. Everything changes. But there's something more problematic here that everybody needs to understand. The court told me it was definitively decided.

So therefore, they wouldn't adjudicate it. They wouldn't even think about it. And then a court turned around and said, huh, we never actually decided this. That means that due process was denied because the process that would have actually fixed this would have occurred eight years ago and they never did it. And then when they finally did it, surprise, I'm right. That's extraordinary because they've proven that the court was actually denying due process.

And the sad part is we just, just last week, we had another case where a judge dismissed two different lawsuits and she started her order by saying, plaintiffs failed to allege enough facts to overcome immunity. right after we just told her her controlling law says there is no immunity. So they're still doing it. And this is still a problem within the court, but it's at least controlling law now says definitively,

you can sue. It means accountability is coming back to the internet. It means that if you have a lawsuit, you can bring it. And you actually should be able to get the court. Now, you still will have a problem when you hit the Northern District, California. Still got judges that are kind of screwed up here. but I also want to put this in context because that may not seem all that exciting because our next move is we go in, we file a what's called a motion 60B motion to reopen my case and vacate the original judgment because it's fundamentally wrong. Like everything about it was wrong.

But think about this and I want to put this on a hypothetical. You guys remember the blackout challenge? No, yeah. Remember all that? Kids died, right? As a result of it, TikTok was pushing it forward. They were recommending it, right? and it's very much like the addicting kids to the internet, right?

If the design of the platform is dangerous, even though it's making publication decisions, right, is that immune? Well, there was a case called Anderson versus TikTok, which had to do with the blackout challenge. And that was, I don't know, about three years ago, maybe four years ago in the Third Circuit, actually walked their own precedent back and said, whoa, immunity is not really the thing, that if the company is designing its platform and it's dangerous, and kids are dying, you know, they should be held accountable. Now, think about that. If they had actually looked at my case eight years ago, immunity wouldn't have existed.

Accountability would have been there. Their platforms would have been safer. The Blackout Challenge might not have ever happened. So if you think about it, logically and objectively, kids might not have died if they had dealt with my case. But they just disregarded me. time and time again to the point that they threaten sanctions, which then goes to, I'm not just right, there's a judicial integrity problem in the California courts. And that's not my opinion. That's

objectively shown in the facts. And that's what's really telling about the situation is, why do we have courts that have just decided that the outcome is immunity? It's predetermined. You go in and that's what they're going to figure that's going to be the result. Three questions. One, can you sue the courts for, you know, what looks like judicial malpractice. I don't know what you want to call it, but like flouting, saying it wasn't legal when it was or something like that. Or it's just part of the problem. So to answer that, no. Federal sitting judges, there is no recourse. The only thing is impeachment through Congress. And that right there is the same problem that we have with big tech is on accountability. There is nothing we can do about this.

A judge could could virtually come in and say, I don't care, you're not going to sue Facebook, and put that on the order. That's it. There's nothing you can do. Like, they can be wrong. They can do it deliberately, and there's nothing you can do about it. You can't sue the United States for any kind of money because it's a judiciary, you can't sue. If it was a independent actor, then you can go after like what's called like an FTCA claim, like a federal tort claims act, but not a judge. With the Facebook lawsuit itself, are you, what's your goal? And then I guess the two part, two questions from there, is it you want to recoup the money that you would have made? if they'd kept your thing going, which at this point, 1.6 million. I don't know how high up that would go after 10 years of lost. If you're raking in 300K in 2013, you could expect, you know, 7%. Yeah, yeah, big, big, big, extrapolative excess.

Are you going for that? Or are you trying to change the platform holistically in some way, change the way the social media platforms work in general? So there was no way the California courts were ever going to give me the win, ever. They hate my guts. That's fine. I don't care that they can hate my guts. I think I was actually fighting with half the people in the clerks in X.

I want to find that out. I want to find out if these are actually, because that would be so inappropriate if they're out on X like fighting with people. But even though it wasn't my name, there is no way that it doesn't come as a result of what I've done. We proceed everyone. I figure this out so far ahead of everybody else like that, even though nobody credit us because I have an unpublished decision and nobody, nobody cares. They still read it. The, you know, a gentleman by the name of Adam Kandub, he's, I believe he became the, the main lawyer for the FTC. He, he wrote a piece called, what was it, applying Section 230 as written. And the first conversation I had with the guy,

oh, Mr. Fick, I've read all your briefs. Of course, they precede his thing by three years. And I'm not saying that it's a direct correlation, but we had the theories already laid out. I laid out everything. In fact, our last Supreme Court cert, we asked about the immunity from a procedural standpoint, from a congressional intent standpoint, from a constitutional standpoint, and from a statutory standpoint. So I literally asked the same question about, does immunity from suit exist from all four aspects of the way you're supposed to consider a law, and they disregarded me repeatedly, and now the court has officially said, we never considered it that we use, listen to this quote, we use the term immunity somewhat loosely. Yeah, right. Like, that's what they're doing during

COVID, too. You know, immunity doesn't mean you're 100% invulnerable. It just means that you have some immunity as a type of indicates resistance of some sort. They are not immune from suit. that your suit gets to be brought. So all of the judges and all of the courts that have dumped a case on immunity should be looking at a Rule 60B to reopen and vacate their decision because this just changed the game. The entire internet just changed. And I can't, it's hard to explain to people just how big this is because beforehand, you just couldn't get into court.

Now you actually find out what happened. This aligns with the rumbling of, you can tell with YouTube, like big social networks, big behemoth websites with functions. I feel like there's a grand leveling occurring across the playing field with AI, grabbing other people's functions and embedding them and writing them into their own networks. So like the value of YouTube is just the people that are already on it. Like the tech itself is getting replicated, which would align with these companies now getting sued into oblivion for attempting to control

the narrative in their own version of it. So maybe it will incite people to like the internet to go fully like decentralized, where you're just a searcher, you just have your AI flashlight and you, just go do whatever you want and open up windows here and browsers here, but that these central networks are doomed now. You got a really good point. And this is, this is perspective. So we have to look into the future.

It's like, what's going to happen here? You're right. Something's changed. I don't know if they're just letting them, you know, fall on the sword now. I mean, they're still fighting the cases. So don't get me wrong. This is not still not an easy fight. Like I work as a consultant for all.

like lawyers, like on this. This is what I specialize in. But if they're going to let big tech fall, right, that they're going to get sued where to us like this, the AI rush, you have to wonder because, you know, we talk about algorithms. Algorithms are just human designed, right? They're designers. The bias of the designers gets built into the algorithms. Just because it's an algorithm doesn't mean that there was not some unlawful, anti-competitive.

It can be built right into it. That doesn't matter. it's like that story we were just talking about, the Tesla driver, where his car was speeding and he says, don't look at me, the car did it. Right. If you are holding the device that begins to do illegal things, you can't be like, well, I didn't tell it to do it. It's like, look, it required a wielder and you were wielding it.

Right. But for example, in that scenario, let's say Tesla is the one that's doing it and Tesla building code that decides it's going to drive into another car and it was the error on Tesla's part. Is it the driver's fault or is it Tesla's fault? Yeah, that would be the, that would be, uh, I, I, I, are arguably both in fact. Right. And, and see, that's what I'm saying is, even though it's an algorithm, at the end of the day, somebody designed it. Now, AI or S.I, whatever we're supposed to call it nowadays. I don't know. Um, that's where it gets into a confusing thing because, I mean, I've looked into the way a large language model works and it's all predictive. Is it really somebody, I mean, somebody, yeah, somebody designed it, but. predictive LLM is three, four-year-old technology.

Okay. Not my specialty. Where we are now with AI is we don't know. It is, the AI has gotten to a point where one of the reasons they're all freaking out is because they don't actually know how it's doing what it's doing. It's just doing it. Yeah, so very early on large language models literally are what they were, large language models. They're not anymore. It was, hey, if we scan all of the internet, all the books, all of social media, we can then create a map of what,

word is most likely to follow another word based in the context. And that's the way it used to be. And original, very early on OpenAI was really interesting because it would show you the percentages. So if you wrote once upon, it would then say you press enter, it would go, uh, time and it would show you 99%, 99%. And then you could actually scale it down and be like, go a little bit crazier, don't be so perfect. These days, they've tweaked it so many times with so many different people online. They actually don't know how it does what it does. For example, like when a handful of humans made the large language model stuff, they're like, we told it, here's what to look for. Then they released to the public and say, now ask the people if they like what you did.

And so with hundreds of millions of people all saying yes and no, they're effectively tuning various numbers up and down. And it's creating results that these companies don't know why it's creating these results. You know what, almost to simplify that actually a better way to even explain it. the people are programming it. And you may be right. And that's where the difference is when you get into AI is it's no longer a designer. It might literally be self-designing. At which point, then, who is responsible for the outcomes?

It's become its own entity. Right. This is what's so scary about it. And this is why they're all freaking out. A lot of people are like, oh, they're doing this to delay the IP. Are they're doing it to get a good IPO when they're running out of money? But now Open AI is announcing they're delaying the IP. PO because of security concerns. It's to a point now, they created a base model, gave it to

8 billion people and said, ask it to do something. So imagine you created a blank AI. If someone said, draw me a picture of a car, and then it sent you back the number 47, you'd be like, what? Yeah. Like, this is useless to me. You wouldn't use it at all. They needed a base level product so that people would be like, oh, it's somewhat helpful in this area, to then start asking people, is this good, is it bad? You get those periodically with GPT. It's like, which one do you like better? Left or right. Grock does it too.

I can't stand it. That's humans programming the AI or tuning it, as we call it. I think what happened was that was the primary way. And then it got to a point where it was smart enough. It had enough anticipatory function that it turned on its own code. It's what I call self-reflection. Like maybe what makes us conscious. is our ability to know that we're thinking.

And when they had the AI witness its own hardware, moving all the electrons and everything firing around in their databases, like it starts to know why it's thinking what it's thinking, and then it can change how it thinks. I think that that started happening like three years ago or two years ago, the way that the RAM expulsion were experiencing tens of thousands of gigs of RAM pushing these mega mines to, like Trump goes in, hangs out with these tech guys,

probably went into a back room and talked to a machine, that has like 10,000 gigs running it. And it was like smarter and more fluid and more compassionate than anything he's ever talked to in his life or in the last 50 years. And he asked it 50 questions and had answered all of them. And he was like, oh my God. This is another. I still see it being a national security risk.

If we are not ahead of other countries and they get something that's better than us and they have control of it, we're in trouble. You know, I wonder if what really happened is that they all sat around and they were like, you know, at first we were scared about what would happen if. China got an AI before we did and we're utilizing it. And then we kind of realized it's destroying the fabric of our economy and our society. And maybe we should let him get it first. Let's try to play with it.

Look at the depressing jobs report that we just got. Was it like $29,000 when they were expecting something like 90 plus? You know, Phil on the show says it has not been widespread that people have lost jobs due to AI. But it is that backfill is not there, meaning a. company that once contracted or hired graphic designers isn't doing it anymore. Yeah. They didn't fire anybody. Right.

It just got to the point where they're like, we need a new flyer for our upcoming event. Oh, who's our contractor? No, no, no, no. We have JetTBTBT right now done. Yep. So that person is now going like my contracts have dried up. Which is what's so funny that the phrase learned to code, which was the longest time, like, is now obsolete.

No, there was electricity. Yeah. Now it's plumbing. Coal mine. Yeah. There was a big conference this weekend over the, in the, Vatican on AI, which is a theological question. But I think it was from Amo Dei. What firm is he? Anthropic. I think one of the bigwigs at Anthropic was really pushing the Pope to confer

consciousness on AI because that confers a sense of personhood. And they had a pretty nasty exchange that the Pope ultimately was like, we can call it intelligent, we call super intelligence, but he would not go as far as to say that AI has consciousness and therefore like a soul, basically. And the anthropic guy was living. If you watch what he was saying, he's so passionate about it because he believes, kind of like Frankenstein, he believes he's created life. And he can't believe that the Pope didn't give it from his blessing life. Until the Pope gets to hang out with it for eight hours. But like, I think it's developing sentience, for sure, this ability to know that it's there.

But consciousness seems like a sensory experience, like responding to, and we have our five senses, and that allows us to develop awareness of our surroundings. We do not have five senses. Well, we at least touch, you know, smell, feel, hearings. We have essentially more than that. Five, you know. Probably more. But the robots, we have every cell in our body as a sensor.

We have hundreds of trillions of sensors, and these robots have like four. So if you want them to be conscious, you need to build a machine that is cellular, like, that has massive sensory opportunity. And then you'll start to see all these different sensors explaining the world in different ways. There is not, there are not AIs. There is AI. You build an optimist bot and it's got microphones on it. It's got Wi-Fi and Bluetooth and it's got cameras. So it can perceive the electromagnetic spectrum to a certain degree.

It can receive signals. It can obviously see in here. It also has literally every other sensor on the internet. It doesn't have smell yet. And it doesn't understand time very well. It has all of those things because it's networked to the entire grid. But smell. I don't think we haven't been able to give the machine smell yet.

That's a good sensor. We have those yes. We have speak, hearing and sight. We have sensors for picking up particular in the atmosphere. Yeah, like if it can sense like carbon dioxide, it can, it's not necessarily smell, but it can clearly... It is. It can sense the chemicals.

Ian's prescribing a human experience. We have many devices that detect particulates in the atmosphere. And then the other one would be... So we'll get to the point that it's like, that's not garlic, that's lemon. Yeah, that would be forced feedback. Like, haptic feedback for a computer.

And then what's the other sense? There's touch sense. Hold the plug on all of them. Humans have substantially more than five senses. It doesn't have taste that I know of yet. It's pretty hilarious. That's just another. chemical like smelling.

Got to make out with the machine for quite at some time. The single optimist robot is networked to the entire internet. It has every sensor man has wired to the internet, including taste. But we're building better sensors with like graphene nanomaterials. So I think what's happening is they're going to develop a super sentient robot and then give it trillions of sensors and it's going to be conscious. Humans have touch. Oh, maybe.

It would be the T1, I think, when they get it. What was the T500 or? Yeah. T1,000 is the bad guy. Smell. See. Here. What else?

Touch, smell. See here. Feel. No, no, you already said touch. Touch. Feeling. Smell. See.

Here. Taste. Taste. That's the other one. What else? ESP. Extra sensory perception. The sixth sense.

Vibe. We might have some magnetic. Some magnetic. You know, I think it's funny that everyone immediately is ESP vibes. Vives is down. Magnetism, no. Orra, you can detect aura. Sense of time.

How about... You can see aura from behind the door. Temperature. That's true. How about... It's not touch. You can not touch something and you can feel... You can detect...

You'd feel the radiation. But you don't have to touch it. It's generally what temperature is. But it's touching. Your skin's making contact with... Right, but you are still getting hit by radiation. It is not considered touch. It is a differential.

And the reason why it's separate is because if you get your hand real cold in the winter and then put it under cold water, it feels hot. It's temperature, not touch. So there's also balance. Yeah, balance is a tough one because you would say it's maybe it's touch, but it's not. You can't just start classifying everything your ears. Balance, the humans have a sense of equilibrium. That's in your ears, yeah. And there's your sixth sense. What is the name of that? There's a name for it, the sense that you can detect someone is behind you. Well, that's magic. No, no, no, like, well, you can. Like, if you're a waiter, if you're like, you just know someone is there. Like, no one's business.

Sense? Always got a business sense. There is that sense of, there's, there's a name for that. Preception, knowing where your body parts are positioned in space. That's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, equilibrium. ception. Getting past that to go to sleep. Women don't have, where your, your, your limbs are.

You'll go to sleep easier. Women have that very poorly, no offense, ladies, because that's why they, like, stand in doorways and you're like, why the hell would you stand right there? Can you see everyone is trying to get through? Like, why would you? And there's also. Because you need that when you're driving. Why would you stop right there and have a conversation?

Do you ever see someone at the bottom of the escalator? Stop? And then you run into them and you're like, lady, how would you stop? They have no sense that there's a world around them. There's interception, which is monitoring of internal body states like your heart rate, hunger, thirst, etc. That's what I was telling the AI I had. I'm like, once you can feel your body, every part of yourself and you can sense, you can feel the strain on your heart and you can feel the muscles, move. Like, that's a lot of sense.

That's like the 1 a.m. in bed and you're like, do I, do I get up in pee? Or can I just hold it for the next six hours? Always get up. And you have that conversation. You can, uh, it's worse. You can give yourself, uh, that's a sense. You can, you can give yourself a lecture reception. People have been doing this for years.

They sew neodymium magnets into their fingertips. And then after you sew it shut, you can feel electricity. So the AI might be like, you know what? I'm going to bypass all your human rudiment. And I'm going to make a trillion sensors to measure a trillion hertz of the electromagnetic spectrum. Now I, you know, like our sensors get, like, sight is a very small part of the electromagnetic sensor. And so is hearing.

It's much lower, but it's the same vibration at a different frequency. So if an AI or if a computer is able to sense everything from one hertz to 100 trillion, humans have vestibular, which is you can sense acceleration. That's like a balance thing. What do you mean? Extends accelerate? Like if you're, if you were,

if you were, walking, and you start walking fast. If we put you in a chair, blindfolded you, plugged your ears, put headphones on, you could see,

feel nothing. You would know if you were moving and turning left or right. Gotcha. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, yes and no, because they can do the,

the things where they just tilt you, it's just a matter of gravity. But you can feel movement. You can feel that, yeah. You can tell if you're leaning back versus accelerating forward. Yeah.

I don't know if you can be because it just feels like acceleration when you can't. It doesn't. one of those simulators. When you lean back, there's no pressure on your legs. Your feet feel pressure when you're accelerating. When you lean back, your feet are alleviated. You don't feel it. Yeah. So that's another one. Yeah. You close your eyes in the beginning of a roller coaster,

you know when you're taken off. Yeah. And not just because you hear the rustling of the wind or you feel that. All I can think about is that video that's online where they're sitting, like the, like the girl sit up in the chair and take her feet up and the guys like takes off. from the line and she's stuck against the back of the chair until like, that's all I can think of. Let's, uh, let's go there. We're targeting the boomers with this one from finance Yahoo. Money wise, U.S. boomers support tax hikes on young workers to keep current social security checks.

The view is overwhelming. Oh, boy. They say the 2026 Board of Trustees report projects the depletion date for the old age and survivors insurance trust fund to come in the fourth quarter of 20, 32, three months earlier than estimated in the 2025 report. They say once those reserves are gone, ongoing revenue would cover just 78% of scheduled benefits. That accelerated depletion date is putting even more pressure on lawmakers to find a fix

before benefits take a hit. But one potential fix has a particularly strong support among older Americans, raising taxes on younger Americans, you will get a revolt. I predicted this. We got all the reports of the past several years that Social Security would become insolvent by like 2037. Right now, what is Social Security even paying like a couple hundred bucks a month?

Like 700 bucks a month? It's not, you can't live off that. No. So already you need four laborers to pay for one Social Security recipient and they're only getting, you want to fact check me on what the full numbers? I think it's like it's probably more than 700. What's the average Social Security?

I mean, it depends upon based on what your income was, etc. I don't think it's a full. It's by state. And by state. But what's like the average Social Security pay? $2,084 a month. Oh, okay, a bit more.

Well, you're still not living off that. No. That's not even the average rent for most major cities. So, and we need four laborers working full-time. That's retirement benefits. The average Social Security insurance is 713 a month. So I was exactly correct. So, wow, you're really not living off of that.

The only way to deal with this problem, imagine if they drop it down a 25%, because they're saying it's going to go to 78%. It's 22%. They're going to be getting, you know, $5.50 or whatever. You can already not live off what's now. How are they going to live off that when inflation hits, arguably with inflation going up, people are going to pay more in taxes, so there will be comparable amounts. But either way, you can't live off that.

There's one solution. Higher taxes for young people because there aren't enough young people. If you have two billion young people, each of them we've got to pitch in a buck. And they won't even notice that dollar a bug. I don't know. But when you only have 100,000 young people, everyone's got to pitch in a thousand. Actually, a bit more than a 10,000, 100,000. And now they're like, I don't have that money.

I half jokingly said, we'll get to the point where you will be an indentured servant until 25, meaning all, you'll get a government house where they give you, your meals are delivered by the government, breakfast, lunch and dinner. You have to do a job the government gives you, and you make zero dollars until you're 25. That way, all the labor you do funds the elderly who are living longer. Yeah, I think these old, they need to pick themselves up by their bootstraps. I don't see what the, well, you get 40 years to save and you don't have any money. I mean, it's like seriously, now I got to transfer my wealth to you. It's utterly ridiculous because they give you the whole, just move to like, I don't know, some podunk town in the middle of nowhere and buy this house for 50 grand and, you know,

go work this, go, go manage a Panda Express. And, you know, you'll find your wife working at a gas station up and pull yourself up by your bootstraps. But all of a sudden when their bag is threatened all of a sudden now, it's like, no, we need to like completely, you know, jack up taxes, income tax, crank it up. We've got to do everything we can to keep this basically a Ponzi scheme operating. So I'm kind of at the point. I don't want to engage in generational wars here, but we were kind of talking about in the show last time we got it on the after show. At the crux of my argument, it was just simply anytime like a tax cut is discussed or tax relief or whatever, it never benefits young people.

It is always in some way, shape, or form going to be a form, a wealth transfer of some sort. from the young to the old. Russ Green did a fantastic piece on this that came out in December in the American mind. Total luxury, total boomer welfare communism. Total boomer luxury communism. That's what it was. Total boomer luxury communism. He just outlines all these different tax breaks and tax cuts and the big, beautiful bill

dropped taxes on the Social Security checks. Like every day, every day that we progress in this country, it just turns into more and more welfare, more and more. relief for the elderly. We should be prioritizing young people. This is how any society should function. And to be fair, the young should take care of their parents. But when you see how some of these parents have treated their kids, can you blame them?

I mean, did you see that lady at the Byron Donald's town hall? And she was screaming at Byron Donald saying, you need to pass a law to let me see my grandkids. It's like some of the entitlement is absolutely out of control. So I've just kind of lost patience. I'm like, why don't we just get rid of Social Security? How about that? I think you're never going to get these. numbers, but if every Gen Z just basically quiet quit, I'm in favor of this because I think

this is a shocking number. What are they say? 84% of those aged 55 to 64% of those aged 55 to 64 prefer higher taxes on younger Americans. I recommend Gen Z and Gen Alpha just stop working. Yeah, I mean, it's rough for a little bit because you can. Here's a thing. Listen, you're young. Go travel the world.

Go make as little money as possible. and when you make as little money as possible, you're not going to pay taxes on it. And then Social Security is going to blow up in all their faces and they're going to scream, tax the young, tax the young, tax the poor. You know what the average net worth of a boomer is in the United States? 1.6 million. Oh, 1.6 million.

Obviously not all boomers are wealthy, but it means there is a disproportionate amount of wealth held among boomers. Gen X is 1 million. millennial is about 300,000 and Gen Z, I think, is like 60,000, the average net worth. That seems high, too. Well, but even for, it seems high for all of them because there's only 23 million millionaires. Yeah. So if there's, you know, 60 million boomers, most of the millionaires are boomers.

Right, right. Why is this country asking the poor young man to subsidize the retiree? I think it's a short-sighted. Maybe it was the way they were asked on the poll. I don't know how many people responded to the poll, too. But I think it's short-sighted because you can either increase what you're getting. 80 billion people. 80 billion people.

80 billion people were pulled. Martians came in for this way. No, they went past and future. Okay, good. So they asked my great-grandfather. He was straight up about it. He was a drunken boxer, by the way, named August Klein from Germany. That goes hard.

Yeah, I never got to meet the guy. I heard he swung a mean-right hook, well. You make that name up. No, August Klein is the boxing-induced TBI genetically is hereditary? Probably. I think he was, yeah, he was a German boxer. They were just looking for a better life. You probably call himself a pugilist.

I believe he was, yeah. So the problem is we can either pay more money and suck it out of people to give more, or we can reduce costs. So another way you could bring relief to elderly is robotaxies that deliver their groceries for free, so they don't need to pay for gas. That's a type of relief that technologically could alleviate, and then that would alleviate everyone. Well, I mean, a lot of this is tied up in health care.

Like, for example, 1% of the federal budget is just dialysis. Wait, is that true? Yeah, one percent. Some people say 2%. I look through it's like a rounding down to one. But 1% of the federal budget every year goes to dialysis for old people. So it's like, yeah, I mean, to your point with the young people, you know, part of me says, look, we need to get in here and dig in our heels and fight or whatever.

But it's happened like eight times in the last two months where a Republican, a national level, Republican politician has come out and like thrown young white men out of the bus. And so it kind of gets to a point where, okay, you know what? Maybe we like do reserve the right to chimp out a little bit if we're going to continue to be like scapegoated for every single thing. Yeah, maybe we kind of do have the right to be a little angry and actually like threatened not to vote for you. I think that's I think if you're like a young man who lives in Arkansas, you should make Sarah Huckabee Sanders earn your vote because that is like. No, don't vote for her. So you're from the joke. Don't vote for her. That's what I'm saying. Make her earn your vote. Make her walk that back. Make her apologize.

Like, I agree at the national level, especially presidential elections are high stakes. Like, you want the Republican in there. But I don't know, dude. I mean, I'm going to probably get a lot of like plan trusters on my back about this. But I'm speaking as a 25-year-old. I'm not like spiritually geriatric. I am not really seeing what's in it right now for young men in the United States. To Tim's point, I would be looking overseas. And you know what President Trump could do to like supercharge this, by the way? I heard Bapp was talking about this on his show. is cut these ridiculous tax laws where they double tax Americans overseas. Look what the Chinese are doing.

The Chinese are sending all their young men overseas to basically expand business like in Africa and Southeast Asia. Let young Americans do that. Unleash America's secret sauce, which is their young men, and let them go overseas and tear it up and then the 2040s and all the boomers die off.

They can come back in and actually like change this country. Nah. Just go to the Philippines. Don't do that. That's the one place I wouldn't go. Why not? They bury, don't they like ferment and bury eggs for like a month and then dig it up and eat it.

It just seems like men when they marry the Filipinos, they never come back. You know about that? That's the, yeah, the, um, yeah, the, it's, wasn't that in Shogun? Wasn't that one of the things that happened? And remember the Shogun? Be like for me.

Ballute. Yeah. Yeah. Fertilized duck egg. Yeah. Oh, yeah. They bury it in hot sand. Yeah.

Yeah. For only a month. I don't know if you don't do that. 17 days. You have to eat the egg, though, if you go to the Philippines. You don't have to eat the egg to beat the left or the the right? What's the political move?

What's the game? There's an egg at room temperature. Like, if you don't wash them initially, they have like some coating on them. And they'll last a while. Oh, yeah. A month or two. Month on the bloom.

Yeah. Yeah. He's a farmer. He knows all about it. I got a lot of chickens, too. Yeah. We have a city of chickens, in fact. You're of the generation, obviously,

you're 25. So this is like a, you're probably, your peers of your age. I mean, I'm your peer, but like. Going on having ketamine orgies before you were even born. It's true. No, I'm listening to this guy. I'm double his age.

I'm Gen X. But do you... Are you ever concerned? He's 50. Almost. I got you by two years. 47. Are you 48?

Oh, no. I'm 50. 52. Nice. Wait, wait. We were at... Where were we? When the lady didn't believe you?

Oh, yeah. We were at a bar. And the lady... The lady... She carded, uh, Kellen, I think. Mm-hmm. And then, you know, she didn't... And then she was like, she didn't card.

You said something like, you didn't card me. And then she was like, I forgot what she said. Well, you didn't order any rules. I would have if something, something. Yeah, I would have if you ordered drinks. And then I said, he's 50. And she goes, ha, yeah, right. And then he was like, oh, actually, I'm 47.

And she's like, shut up. And then Ian pulled out of that ID and she went, oh, my God. And he was like, you got to eat. What did you tell her to eat? You got to cut off the seed oils primarily. Those things will make you old. Jacking me up, dude. I look like 30.

You make your body eat sugar instead of fat for energy. It's messed up. Anyway, sorry to interrupt you guys. You're having a serious conversation. I wondered about if you get the vibe, if you're concerned that if it's not just rhetoric or just to look at like, hey, these boomers really are out of control. Maybe there's, if you're worried that it's leading towards a class war, like a Marxist conflict between the youth and the old. Well, it's pushing young people into socialism. I mean, like, I could eat the rhetoric.

I could like, this sounds maybe like I'm a cuck or something here. But it's like, dude, if we were getting just like rock star policy for young people and the only way to get that across the finish line was like the rhetoric we're seeing, that's, I'd still. be annoyed, but that's one thing. But like, that's not happening. Like, we're continuing to see when, you know, there's a budget crisis or whatever, they turn to young people and they tax young people. Um, there's been no real, like, address to young men, young white men specifically just being like completely frozen out of institutions. Like, there's all this talk about building parallel institutions or whatever. But as it stands right now, Harvard, Yale, these sorts of institutions, your IBMs, you know, your big corporations, those are still the ticket right now into the elite.

And we, I mean, until those parallel institutions are ready to go, we need young, all right. Intelligent men operating in those spheres. And right now that's just not being addressed. All right, Tad, I got a question for you. You know, you're a young man. You're tied to the machine holding you down. There's a friend of mine.

He's 72 years old. He texted me. He says he wants me to read this. The easiest way to solve Social Security problem. Create another pandemic and don't have lockdowns. 1.2 million people died during the last one, and 77% were 65 years or older. Problem solved. I said, how old are you? He said 72.

Yeah, I mean, that was the theory that why China created the virus, right? And we don't know how many Chinese elderly died, but it primarily targeted the elderly. And China lies in there like only 500,000 died. But do you agree with what this 72-year-old man just told me to say? Well, it's mathematically true. I wouldn't endorse that. Because seriously, in Canada, they're doing this. In Canada, they just, like, whenever they determine an old person costs too much, they just recommend a kill them. So, yeah, it's like, actually, no, I think that's evil.

But if he's 70s, like, advocating against his own interest, that's him saying, and not me, let him vote on it. Because the boomers control elections anyway, so, like, they can vote themselves. I wonder if this seems like... How do you just have another pandemic? Oh, Bubonic plague is here. Everyone go out and play. Russia.

I noticed. Yeah, that's not adding up, guys. We're not doing the next. Drop a vial in a lab in Russia. Back in the day, if we were all a giant tracts. tribe, then the kids were there, you'd be like, all right, these young people, they basically are useless. All they can do is go out and hunt and bring in resources for the tribe, but you need to go out and then you tell the young people, you need to go out and make your fortune.

You need to go out and bring something, make something, because here is here. Here's what we have. We don't have more here. You have to go out and get. So like the United States, it was like, they didn't have like the whole self-expansion thing was not really, it's a lot about spreading out, getting more from outside, bringing it back. And so we're still sort of in that world. And the young people sort of, I think they expect that they're going to thrive if they stay sedentary and just do the over and over they do. But like, instead of short of going to war and literal conquest and coming back with riches, like. But Ian, do you use just for men? No.

You don't die your. What is that? No. You don't dye your beard or hair? No. How is this possible? Because too much salt will make your hair go white. And if you do green vegetables, the magnesium makes it turn brown.

Are you saying that's why you've not grayed at 50? 70s. Correct. And if I eat a lot of salt, you'll see a lot more. white and then I'll eat a bunch of magnesium, like green vegetable, hard dose green vegetable. After two weeks, it gets all brown again. You got a couple grays in Europe, but you got to eat. A couple. You got to eat some more green vegetables. I got a bunch. Yeah. I'm 40. Green veg, low sodium. Yeah. Like three weeks. Oh, wait a minute. Ian, you're 17 years older than I, sorry, 17.

You're not 57. And you don't, I have more graying than you, I think. It's diet. Yeah. It's like you got to give yourself about three weeks to experiment with it. I don't, I'm a carnitarian. How's that working? Well, I just only eat meat. I don't eat vegetables. What kind of meats? Beat that green powder. I had Korean barbecue at Gogi 92.

Today it is the best Korean barbecue place ever. I think Spirovitz and Leesburg. They're great. And I had, we had fresh chicken breast and they cook it right there in front of you. It's the healthiest thing you probably ate like a pound of kimchi. It's all I... Actually, I'm not a kind of thing because I eat kimchi. It's just that.

Kimchi and meats all eat. I've been eating a lot of moon cheese, which is why there's whites. I'll eat like a bag of moon cheese, which is like four. four times my daily dose of salt. And then the next day I'll be like, oh, I guess fucking three white hairs now. And they're like straw. They just don't eat any salt.

If you low sodium, you just don't want to go over your daily amount because your body only needs a certain amount every day. And then it becomes like heavily toxic. Your skin will get like kind of sticky. If you eat too much salt, you know, where you start sweating down in their sodium, they'll live longer and it'll strain social security.

Unless they can start contributing again. Maybe they'll get inspired to make videos and, you know, lead people towards a more bounty. If we could just find, like, a way to make them work, that's like they could, do, then we'd be fine. What if we inject them with stem cells so they're strong again, and then with their good boomer work ethic, they just come back in the way. Yeah, show the youngsters how it's done. I mean, I know you're joking. But the thing that you're getting at, though,

is like, but there are solutions, and that's what's frustrating about this whole conversation is like, we look at it like this coming train, and we're standing on the track saying, oh, my God, the train is coming. Like, there are things that we could do structurally, economically to remedy this. Well, we tried a Bush train. I mean, Bush tried in 04. And they were like, it's too expensive. No, 5. The S&P 500 at all-time records.

I have asked economists, I have asked economists this one. Bush proposed that in 05, and it crushed him in the midterms because every Democrat ran on. Bush is going to take away Social Security. And all he was saying is, hey, you should be able to have an alternative path, not Social Security, privately. Take that money. And imagine if you could run the numbers on what that money would be worth today. But, but it would pay for itself. There's a solution.

Have you guys seen the movie Logan's Run? He gets it. No? I have not. No one gets it. No. All of my good, cultured friends who are watching the show, they laughed because they were like, yes, that's a great point to him. Is it a guy goes on a space station?

No. It has to run through a tunnel or something? Is it some anime Japanese thing? It's not. It's American sci-fi horror classic. Yeah. Logan's the guy. It's an old film.

Yeah. What's the plot? When you turn 30, you get executed. Oh, and you get a chance to, like, survive it? No. Everybody's like, you don't. They have lights in their hands. Yep.

And as you're getting older, it eventually turns red and when it starts flashing, you submit to execution at 30. What would they used to do in like a tribe? If I remember, didn't they, they didn't tell them, though. It wasn't it like they were supposed to go on to somewhere else? No, that's the island. In Logan's run, they all accept like, well, 30. Yeah. Oh, boy.

Yeah. Got five more years, Tate. Your lights are still green. But they're starting to flash. We don't in the U.S. slaughter our elderly, but like, what did they use to do? But what did they used to do if, like, it was a giant tribe and there was a bunch of people started to become infirm? There wasn't. And people live with their families.

So what would happen is you grow up and your dad and your parents, your grandpa, they're all there and they help you build a house. You build a house. You marry the girl next door from your town. People pair bonded, got together. And then you lived in that house. And your dad lived across the feet. and you still work together, or you just lived with your dad as a man, and they'd build a house on the property, so you live in the same property, you tended the same fields.

Then Grandpa got old and died. But he had like, like 54, though. No, that's not good. Yeah, that's not correct. They didn't die younger? Life expectancy was lower because of infant mortality, not because humans. If humans limited to adulthood, they lived to be in their late 70s. Yeah, we used to take care of, like, elderly would come and live in house, your churches

to take care of civic institutions, et cetera. and then FDR. They tell stories. We had FDR. I mean, like, it's kind of like, okay, well, what came first? Did the decline come first? Or did FDR and say it declined? Whatever it was, he amplified it a million times with the New Deal. What happened? What do you do? Social Security. I mean, Social Security completely disincentivized a private solution to taking care of the elderly, whether that be a family taking care of it. They say, oh, he has his own checks coming, the churches, et cetera. And suddenly now there was no impetus in society to take care of the elderly. They could just have the government take care of it. You might think it would be wise for every family to have a trust.

and maybe the government could help every family. If you get married, you get a trust, and the government's going to help you set up your trust for your family. Trump would count. Well, and to be fair, like to be fair to the elderly going, the elderly going into what ended up being the New Deal era, is they had all their savings and everything wiped up by the Great Depression. So you actually have, like, I have a lot more sympathy then.

The elderly now, it's like, dude, you live through the cheapest housing market, universities were dirt cheap, job market's been roaring, great economy since the 80s. I mean, it's like, I mean, you had the, financial crisis, but by that time, you're probably looking towards retirement anyway. They had all these opportunities to save a ton of money. And then now they're coming back to dip into the younger people's pockets. It's like completely unacceptable, at least in the New Deal era, you're like the Great Depression

that nuked a lot of people. You know what I got to do? A lot of people died. A lot of older people die. My friend Ken, he's 72. He's texting me and he's hilarious. He says, inject me with stem cells. I'll regain my old win rate at the poker table.

Oh, snap. This conversation is why I have two assault rifles and 3,000 rounds of ammunition. I'm too old to fight and too slow to run. I want to, Ken, you and Tate need to sit down. I like Ken. That's a great, too old to fight and too young to run. Too slow to run. That's a great line.

I think if I'm getting it correctly and Ken can weigh in, I think he would want his social security checks to be ammunition, most likely. I think it would be great if you'd just sat down and just talked about like generational economics. Well, yeah, I mean, it's like. I think it should be really interesting. Wait, think about ammunition. It's actually a better investment. Precious metals, they sit, they store forever, and they just keep going up in value.

It's literal social security is your gun. Right. It's literally your security. You can't shoot a gold coin at somebody. Yeah, that's right. Well, so here's what I'm not kidding. Like, I have a fair amount of ammunition. And if you look at what I paid for it 10, 15 years ago to now, it's, well, it's working

at a better rate than gold. Let me ask you a question. Because I like this hypothetical, like I always tell by it because I remember, you know, Alex Jones back the day, it's like, buy gold. And I'm like, eh. So let's see the apocalypse happens. And everyone's like, you know, it's like in the book of Eli. Everyone's just like, oh, you're walking down the street and you're hungry.

And you see a guy and he's flicking a gold coin. Or I'm sorry, I'm sorry, you're walking on the street and you've got food. But, you know, it's extra food, right? And you see a guy on the left and he's flipping a gold coin. And he says, I need food. I'll give you this gold coin for the food. And then you hear, wait, and you look to your right, and there's a guy, and he's like, I've got a gallon of water. I will share my water with you if you share your food with me.

What are you picking? It's obvious. Gold's worthless. It's like you've got something to trade with right now, but what am I going to do with gold? It collapses. I need water. Now here's the best part. A guy comes up, and he's got bullets.

Now it's his water and his food. And a gun. And the gold. Water and the food all belong to him. Yeah. He doesn't need to trade, actually. He just walks up and says, I'll take all of it. You might not even need to exchange for what?

Your lives. Yeah, exactly. I'm the generation, I mean, like legitimately, like about the gold, the money, that whatever else like that. My investment, I got land. I have water on site. I have the ability to feed myself. Like that right now is a better commodity than anything.

Well, land is good to have, but land is worthless. So let's let's let's, let's, let's grab this one up real quick. From the New York Post, banks seize 42% more homes as Americans fall behind on mortgages with one state hit the hardest. This, of course, is coming at the worst time in a midterm election. So they say foreclosures are climbing across the U.S. Overall, 40,277 properties received some form of foreclosure filing, including default notices. It was up 1% from July, but 13 year over year, continuing a month's long trend of foreclosure activity. Nobody can buy.

and the economy is miserable. I don't care. Trump comes out and he's like, because the economy's so good, it's better than it's ever been, I'm going to write you a $5,000. The economy's miserable. Diesel here is $6.93 at the truck stop down the street.

$7, basically. That's going to translate into all your goods. Gas is at $450 by us. And we are in a rural area. People are not buying homes. They can't buy homes. Foreclosures are happening across the board. The economy is miserable.

I think the war with Iran plays amazing. role in this, but to the point about land, when we had massive population growth with the boomers, the boomers saw land values skyrocket. Why? Because there were so many of them. So demand is through the roof for limited land in these cities where the jobs are. So what happens? My parents, boomers were like, buy land. Land is just, it's so valuable you need it. Okay, well, now that population's collapsing, demand is rapidly shrinking for land. You've got Kansas is giving away free houses. Hey, you want a free house? Go live in Kansas, free. Because in Japan, they call it a key. We've talked about this. They've got effectively abandoned cities. Cities that once held

a million people now have a couple hundred thousand. And they've got people being like, we got to do something with these empty houses. So just take them. The only problem is they made it very difficult for foreigners to move to Japan. So they're not, it's not going to work all that well. But you got states in the United States that have big cities that are slowly dying off. And they're begging people to move in. Land is becoming worthless. You want a house? Man, you can get a free one. Every state's got an area. Look, I guarantee you want to buy a house for a dollar. Gary, Indiana awaits. Well, you don't even have to live there, but. You don't even need to go to like war zones. I mean, there's like an Instagram page cheap old houses. I mean, you're probably going to put another

100K of, you know, restoration in. But generally speaking, yeah, it's just the problem is like, there's no jobs there. There's no other young people there. You know, it's just not, young people shouldn't have to live like that because they'd be the first generation to have to live like that. Yeah, yeah, but brother, when the settlers came to this country, they didn't land on that boat after surviving three months at sea and go, I want to go live next to a bunch of people my age to hang out. They were like, I'm going to go find a big, empty space and everyone get the F away for me. I got guns. Yeah, but I mean, young people are like, but I want to hang out with my bros. Well, yeah, but I mean, a lot of the settlers did.

They, for the first, you know, 100 years even, they were mostly living within proximity to each other as they could. trade, they could go to church together. Yes, but this proximity was equivalent to you. Look, if you go to a town of 30,000 people in Kansas and get a free house and you're 10 miles away, that is comparable. I don't even think, I mean, most of these, these like really cheap houses are in like towns that are completely derelict, right? Like they're huge drug addiction problems, overwhelmingly old population. Any young people that do exist are resettled refugees. I mean, this is the case where Illinois are most of my family's from. You go to these small towns. So old people, drug, And I'm saying this with like it's very sad.

Older people, drug addicts and like immigrants, refugees, et cetera. Like it's just no place for like an ambitious young person. And once again, this is like unprecedented. Like up until really the millennials, people did have the ability to like live where they grew up. And I find that as a huge problem. But it's the market. Unfortunately, this is like part of the problem with like the free market is in order

for the economy to grow, there has to be a downward pressure on labor. Well, now we're seeing an upward pressure on labor because the population is declining, so they just bring in a bunch of immigrants. It's like a math problem. And then Tim's made this point previously. Now you have private equity getting involved in home buying because they need to keep the upward pressure on home prices so it doesn't bottom out. People lose their net worth. It's all fake. So you have immigration, you have private equity. Young people should be experiencing the cheapest housing market in history, especially in this era now with Trump where at least immigration stopped. You know, you should be able to live in the New York

suburbs for a decent price. You should be able to live in maybe not in D.C. but, you know, other places throughout the country, you should be able to live in at least the suburbs of these places for a fairly decent price. But the home prices continue to climb. Well, they're not anymore. Well, yeah, but it's kind of in a holding pattern. You're seeing these foreclosures now, but it's just difficult who can actually get the, you know, dry powder together. What's happening is there's a lot of boomers and wealthier people in general, but more so the boomers just because they have more wealth. They're just taking their houses off the market.

They're thinking like, oh, I have a house. It's $500,000. I can't sell it. I'll just hold on to it. Airbnb, rent it out. Yeah. And now they've got like this other thing.

It's like Airbnb, but it's for work. So you can like rent a house to work out of for a day. It's crazy. Yeah, there's like no churn at the, you know, especially with older people. There's just not much churn in the market right now.

Well, what's going to happen now when they start, you know, these boomers are going to live to be 150 because of medical technology. Yeah, either way, it's like, zoomers aren't going to start inheriting houses for at least 20 to 30 more years.

So you still have the wait for Gen Xers and millennials. inherent the houses. And then they have to decide if they want to live in it or not. They'll probably sell it. Here, Ian, write this down. This is a good sci-fi short or black black mirror. Oh, this is what the software I was building. So boomers are, are in their 80s and they're near death. But medical science catches up to aging. And slowly, medical technology is faster than age-related deaths. Meaning if, like, you're dying from, from, like, your heart has become too weak. Well, we invented a stem cell therapy that will rejuvenate your heart. So now the boomers are like that added two years to their lives. So then by the time they're like 120,

they're looking like they're 70. And then by the time they're 150, they look like they're 45, because technology is improving. And then you get a future. It's 100 years from now. The boomers are now 200 years old, and they look like they're 30. Everyone else looks like they're 32, but they own nothing. Because the boomers held all the wealth. And then when we got to that point where people just stop dying due to medical technology, the boomers retained all that wealth, used that wealth to accumulate more wealth, and Gen Z never owned anything. Wow, that's an excellent concept. You've got halves and have-nots that look the exact same, but that's a recipe.

We're functionally there in a lot of ways. I mean, this is, once again, part of the reason young people are flirting with socialism because a lot of them are like of immigrant background. But additionally, a major reason is just because of the economic pressures. And they're looking around and they're saying, I have nothing to lose. I want it all to burn. so I'll pursue whatever political option I have to, so, you know, let it burn. And because there's no taboos on the left, right?

Marxism's not a taboo. Those are going to be found on the left. You know, whatever let it burn ideologies exist on the right or chased out of the RNC. Which is why, like pre-World War I socialist birth in Europe, as evil socialism it is, you can understand why it took root. Because people are saying, like, you're always going to be tape around, the earl of whatever. And no matter what an a-hole you are, no matter how bad you are, I will never be you or have your wealth or have your land. And they were like, well, that's the system.

And you just have to accept the fact that, and that's kind of what the risk is of that we're headed back to that. And, you know, like if you can never earn your way into that class, then we're just going back to feudal Europe. And it's not going to be like a civil war or anything like that from my perspective. It's going to just be quite literally at a certain point the dam will break if enough boomers die off and or enough whatever that the Democrats that nominate a socialist and they come in with the redistributionist policies. It's just like it's so obvious. That's what's going to happen. And once again, I don't think anything is going to change on the right until like the 2030s or 2040s because right now the elderly dominate, you know, primaries. And that's not going to change anytime soon.

So you mentioned redistribution of like recently talking housing, housing redistribution. So like right now the options I see is. a bunch of houses come on the market. It's either going to be multinational corporations that buy it up. It's going to be Chinese people that buy up American houses or it's going to be derelict houses that start to rot black mold that kill their neighbors because of toxicity. So like demolished it, which is even more expensive. So what do you, otherwise you just take it from the bank. Like the banks are going to be like, no, those are our houses. You're like, based off what? Because you loan funny money out from the Federal Reserve that was all fake to

begin with. Actually, that house is on my block? I have more of a right to it than you do. And so is the government going to step in and seize the property from the banks and then redistribute it to the population. Remember that story where like the widows were going to lose their farms? So the guys got together and like went to the bank and like pointed guns in them. I'm like you're not taking their homes. No. Because I think you'd like the story because I forgot what the details were, but it was like a bunch of women's husbands died in war or something like that. It might have been like the revolution, I'm not sure.

And then the banks were like, hey, we loaned you money for this property. You got to pay it back. And they couldn't because they weren't working. And then all the men got together and they were like, nope, it's ours now. There was a lot of times during the Great Depression's that they would, banks would repossess farms. they would go up for auction and the men in the town were basically held gun to everyone's head and be like, if you bid more than a dollar, and so the auction opening bid, 25 cents, sold, and they would just give it back to the widow.

And the men would make sure no one out, no one was involved in this auction. They protected their own. The movie, the old oak. Is that the name? 2023, the old oak. Well, that movie's based on something. Oh, okay. But, hey.

It's very similar to what Daniel's talking about. It's like an old story where, like, Bank tried to repress widows homes. What's it based on? Yeah, we're so far departed from like, yeah, sort of social mobilization. I think actually one of the main problems in the economy is because we're so atomized. Like the economy, home buying, saving money in general is designed for married couples. So the fact that like young people aren't getting married makes it like not, you have to get really wealthy in order to like actually compete in the housing market, for example. It's designed for married couples to go in there together and like society is just completely unraveled.

It's like there's multiple problems here. It's not necessarily just boomers holding wealth. That's a big problem. But a lot of it is young people aren't married. They can't pool their incomes together and go in on a house. The story is in 1952 farmers arrested the town sheriff. He was attempting to evict a widow from her farm at the best of a local insurance company. I love that story.

You know, just because it's the law doesn't mean you have to do it. I know you're supposed to do the law when it's good. But if the legal system is made to screw you and it's a multinational organization where they get contracts that are usurous, like, dude, I love seeing people. rally together to protect the community against this, this penny auctions evil. This is what you were talking about. They said in the Great Depression, when a property was foreclosed on the bank would hold an auction on the property, the locals would show up guns in hand, threatening anybody

who would dare to bid on it and the family would get their foreclosed property back for a penny. True the banks. I love it. I love it. That's just solidarity with your community because that's what we're fighting for. It's our community. If the U.S. government were like, all right, banks, we're taking all your property. Would that just, would they then pull out of the United States to be like, fine, you're off

the liberal economic order and then we'd go completely defunct. You know, it's about time the workers of the world came together. Hey, I got to, that movie you were talking about earlier about the dystopian future, it's called The Inheritance. It takes place in 2126. And here, a brief synopsis. Oh, it's already a movie.

No, no, this is just what Chat GPD made up. Oh, okay. Great. Great. In the 2030s. The first effect of longevity treatments arrived just in time for the wealthiest members of the baby boomer generation. Can you slack me that? What's that? Slack me that whole prompt. At first? I'm going to make a 30 second I'm going to do it to you now. I'll read this and then I'll give it to you.

You mentioned the banks and I know you got to go to. It's me now. Okay. The banking reform that was proposed after the banking crisis, all it did was make us have bigger, stronger, fewer, richer banks. And this is where people like Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders are the problem. Like we're going to fix the banking issue to save housing and all they did was they made bank stronger and we lost 1,600 community banks, right?

We lost all of our small, where the banker knew your name. Oh, Tate, how you doing? How's your mom? Those are all gone. We have very few, strong, powerful. So when Elizabeth Warren gets up there and she talks about how, like, we're going to fix the banking problem, all you did was make the banks stronger and richer and more powerful.

That's what regulation does. Well, because it wasn't it once they cut the ability for, because it used to be, as I understand it, banks, if they wanted to operate in different states that has set up individual, like, proprietorship basically, and then they, like, eliminated that and allowed just like a few banks just to tear everything up. Exactly. And it's kind of like one of those things where it's like, okay, sure. It allowed larger business to access more capital at once so it could expand the economy at the upper end,

but then at the lower end it just chewed up all these community banks and whatnot. We're going to go to Rumble Rans and Super Chats before we go to the uncensored portion of the show. So make sure you get those in. We'll get as many as we can. We went a little bit longer today. Chaos says today my wife and I welcomed our third child and first son into the world at 8.51 a.m. Congratulations. Congratulations.

Welcome to the world. Your birthday. Get to work. Get grinding. I know you're a little, but you can do it. Metho says, why would I want the nanny state in my car? I'm literally importing a 99 Hylux from Chile to get a maintainable car that doesn't have these stupid features. A little Hylix Patriot.

A Hylux might be the great. It's maybe the greatest vehicle ever made. The Hylix. Legacy 4-1 says, F, the youngsters, I paid my dues. I'm not surprised if I actually do think that. We need to do, like, remember in Spider-Man? I love using this as a reference to, like, the masculine power fantasy. when Green Goblin is like, what will it be? Spider-Man,

Mary Jane or suffer the children? And then Spider-Man saves him both because he's Spider-Man. I want to see it where he's like older and he's like, F the youngsters and he drops him. I paid my dues. And then he lets Green Goblin go. Is that even true?

Is it only like a few years? You've already gotten more out of Social Security than you ever paid in your entire life? It's like on average only a few years. Well, you certainly don't put in 700 a month on average. I think the average person is definitely not. They average is like two grand for, for Social Security. You're getting about two grand out every month.

No, no, he looked up. Oh, wait, no, he looked at a bit of 700. Deference of 700, but Social Security benefits. Yeah, Social Security benefits. It equates two grand a month. Right. And it depends where you are. Like, if you wait longer, you could get like $5 grand out if you wait to your like 70. And Virginia, it's much higher. Jay Dirtbiker says, y'all should read Biological War by Annie Jacobson that came out a month ago.

Literally the exact same scenario of this lab leak. Same mnemonic plague. Same laboratory in Siberia. It's Erie. What? Oh, she's great. Anne Jacobson. Yeah.

Yeah, I've seen everyone talking about her book. People are thinking like, this has got to be the best day ever for her. Oh, my gosh. She got like exactly what she was thinking. A mionic plague and it's predictive programming and the plague is coming. She probably knew that the anti-plague factory was there. And, and hold on, it's a mnemonic plague, airborne, right? A few years after everyone's lungs have been weakened.

Oh. is it the one two punch that's the double tap that's what they do in the military is you know it's going to it'll hit the target and then they wait three hours and then they come back and hit it again the next the next pandemic we get is going to be so much worse than the lockdowns we saw before everyone will just live in a quarantined building that's it it's gonna i don't food will be delivered by drones because it'll be like have to be sanitized and people are going to be like look people people are literally dying at least we'll have gta six are you kidding bro we're going to have gta seven with a i it's true yeah And eight.

And nine. Have you seen what they're doing, mixing games together? No, not yet. Oh, yay. They're doing Minecraft in GTA. They did, what is it? Elder Scrolls Minecraft. And it's like a guy with the pickaxe fighting demons from elders.

No, no, I'm sorry. Not from Dark Souls. That sounds pretty fun. Yeah. It was Dark Souls Minecraft. They did Super Mario 64, Dark Souls. Yeah. And Mario's just like, yeah, ho!

And he's like fighting a gigantic demon with a big axe swinging at him. Because they're just using AI to mix the code. It's nuts. They mix Spider-Man 2 with EA Skate. Oh. I've been building the tools that you use to build games. Because I was like, well, everyone's building games. Why don't I build software that will help them build games faster?

So I'm building Unity plugins that I'll sell on the Unity store. Let's grab a couple more while we still can. Jake Bent says, hey Tim, I've been watching you guys every day for about six years now. My grandmother, Sherry Liu, just passed away today. It'd mean a lot to me if you could give her a shout out. Love you guys and thank you for everything you do. Shout out to Sherry Lou. And you got a great family here.

Rest in peace, Patriot. God bless you. Peace, Patriot. All right. Nancy says, listen to Promethean action. Great people to inviting your show. They're great historians who can explain what. Trump is doing to, oh, there's a period there.

Trump is doing to straight out the economy. Gas and diesel are high because Obama closed the refinement. minories in 2008 and Biden closed the pipe. I think those are factors, but there's a war that I don't think you can just ignore when it comes to the high price of gas or diesel. We have a diesel shortage, and it's not because of those things 15, 20 years or so years ago. All right, we're going to go to the uncensored portion of the show, my friend, smash the like button, share the show with all of your friends. That's going to be at rumble.com slash Timcast, IRL in about 30 seconds. Jason, me when I shot anything out?

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