Timcast IRL - Riley Moore Uncensored: SF Gives FREE Booze To Homeless People Because Democrats Are F**King Retarded

Episode Date: May 19, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to our special weekend show, Sunday Uncensored. Every week we produce four uncensored episodes of the TimCast IRL podcast exclusively at TimCast.com and we're going to bring you the most important for our weekend show. If you want to check out more segments just like this, become a member at TimCast.com. Now enjoy the show. Holy shit, everybody. Now, enjoy the show. cursing on the front page at timcast.com but Democrats are fucking retards. Who wants to read this headline? It's a San Francisco slammed for 5 million
Starting point is 00:00:49 a year program to give free alcohol to the homeless. Quote, this isn't working. Obviously. I can't believe someone had to tell them this wouldn't work. And these people got to run a city. Not even just a small one. A really big city. A really big one. How's it not working?
Starting point is 00:01:05 We're getting the homeless people drunk. When are they going to clean up the rest? We met their demands. They needed more needles and alcohol. And we said, sure. And then they continued to be chaotic. Okay, to steel man this, I think they're trying to do like, if you're homeless and you're an alcoholic, can't afford your alcohol, you go through withdrawal and could die or something.
Starting point is 00:01:24 Maybe. That's the most kosher reading I could give to it. That's true. Or are they trying to roll them off heroin and onto alcohol? At least you get tax money on alcohol. It's the managed alcohol program providing free alcohol to people struggling with chronic alcoholism who are mostly homeless.
Starting point is 00:01:41 San Francisco's hot soup bar. It has not changed my opinions. There's an issue with also like continuing to feed somebody's addiction morally. I think there's a moral issue. Well, with the needle handout centers, it's supposed to be like you go there because you want a clean needle because they're trying to prevent this, the spread of illnesses. And also if you were to overdose, you're somewhere that they can see you. They can potentially administer Narcan.
Starting point is 00:02:02 But also they're supposed to say like, hey, maybe we should try rehab. And the thing is, most people are like, no, just the needles. see you. They can potentially administer an R-CAM. But also they're supposed to say like, hey, maybe we should try rehab. And the thing is, most people are like, no, just the needles. Thank you. Like it's supposed to be so you know where the people who need the services are and potentially you could help
Starting point is 00:02:13 all kinds of tragedies. But what it turns into is just like giving people who are struggling with addiction. Exactly, on the government dollar. Like I think, you know, obviously I think a lot of Americans are affected by people who struggle with addiction. I think it's really serious, but I don't think saying like, well, just cause you're
Starting point is 00:02:29 in a confined space and we could maybe see if you wanted to go to rehab, we're really doing a service to you. I think ultimately like the object should be to not let you have the substance that is harming you. It kind of reminds me of, do you guys remember during COVID when they left alcohol stores open for this reason, liquor stores open for this reason? Yes. It was just, and churches were closed. Yeah. Well, and you hit the nail on the head when you said it's a moral question, right?
Starting point is 00:02:53 And it is a moral question. And somebody might be like, oh, you can't legislate morality. Name one law that's not based in morality. There all are, right? And so are policies. And so I think in their mind, this is some type of altruistic endeavor like, oh, they need alcohol. Let's help them. It's terrible. So I'd like to introduce everyone to this concept called perverse incentive.
Starting point is 00:03:16 You've probably heard this before. The original Cobra effect, the term Cobra effect was coined by economist Horst Siebert based on an anecdotal occurrence in India during British rule. The British government, concerned of the number of venomous cobras in Delhi, offered a bounty for every dead cobra. Initially, this was a successful strategy. Large numbers of snakes were killed for the reward. Eventually, however, people began to breed cobras for the income.
Starting point is 00:03:40 When the government became aware of this, the reward program was scrapped. When cobra breeders set their snakes free, the wild cobra population further increased. The story is often cited as an example of Goodhart's Law or Campbell's Law. So, when you say we give free booze to
Starting point is 00:03:56 alcoholics, alcoholics show up for free booze. Yep. And you're like, but we're helping people who are sick. No, you're creating a space for people who are sick to come and get free shit to stay sick. Exactly. You're facilitating their sickness to continue, which is particularly gross. And on the taxpayer dollar doesn't help the cause.
Starting point is 00:04:15 I'm all for compassionate treatment of people. But is it actually compassionate to be supplying something to someone you know has a problem with it? No. No, it's not. I mean, this is kind of the hard love thing that many parents, unfortunately, in this country have to go through the opioid epidemic.
Starting point is 00:04:29 What if they're like, you know what, we'll just give you money for heroin and, you know, just don't want you to suffer. But if you buy it from us, we'll know you're safe. So that's good.
Starting point is 00:04:37 Like that doesn't make any sense at the end of the day. They're still addicted to the substance. Let's read another one. Experiencing an issue with feral pigs, the U.S. Army post at Fort Benning, now Fort Moore, in Georgia, offered hunters a $40
Starting point is 00:04:49 bounty for every pigtail turned in. Over the course of the 2007- 2008 program, the feral pig population in the area increased. While there were some reports that individuals purchased pigtails from meat processors, then resold the tails to the Army at a higher bounty price.
Starting point is 00:05:06 A detailed study of the bounty scheme found different effects from perverse incentives were mainly responsible. Both the pigs' fertility rate and offspring survival rates increased under the scheme. This was due to improved nutrition made available by the feed bait
Starting point is 00:05:18 used to attract the animals to hunting sites. Secondly, hunters were found to be more likely to preferentially target large males as trophy quality game while ignoring females and juveniles as targets. Removing the mature males from the population has a negligible impact on population growth as remaining mature males can each stud many breeding sows. I love how they never learn. You've got the story of the cobras in India, and then there's just all of these stories of the exact same thing happening. And I bring you to today. San Francisco offers free alcohol to alcoholics.
Starting point is 00:05:53 Surprise, surprise. Their homeless population is skyrocketing. Yep. Imagine that. I swear these people are fucking retards. It's unbelievable. It really is. And I think, you know, I think the big challenge is it's unbelievable it really is and i think you know i think the big
Starting point is 00:06:05 challenge is it's that people like us want to be left alone and say things like you know live and let live it's the federalist argument which i don't completely disagree with this idea they're like well new york is for new york and west virginia be west virginia and i'm like but then the new yorkers come here or they try to get the federal government to impose laws on us here. Yes. It's really about growing up out of a libertarian phase that one might have, like I think you were mentioning earlier, and that there are negative externalities. And when there are negative externalities, you have to deal with it in one way or another. I wonder, did it say what kind of alcohol they were giving? What were they serving at this bar?
Starting point is 00:06:41 Yeah. Is it beer? Is it liquor? Is it tequila? Is it margaritas? I think I just saw vodka. It says Louis XIII. What's... Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Are they sponsored by... You have to know what Louis is. No, they're not giving out... What does Louis like? 250 an ounce? Interesting. Or maybe they gave you like an EBT, but you could only use it at liquor stores.
Starting point is 00:07:04 You know, you're a treasurer maybe you could understand the process in which this would happen uh here you go sir here's liquor they're just like passing out jello shots on the street like here you go guys he said the city's health department is not helping people get better it's about keeping people sick and he added we are living in the upside down. Wow. And that was coming from a Democrat. The retarded cheesestick in the chat says, if it's Louis XIII, I'm getting him in my car now.
Starting point is 00:07:34 What is Louis the... It's like $250 for an ounce. And when they pour it, they have like an eyedropper, and they don't let one drop spill because one drop is like five dollars whoa yeah yeah uh not us when we had it i think lauren drank it out of a paper cup or something alcohol is the same to me so uh it means to an end frank we we at the castle we have this
Starting point is 00:07:58 really great uh booze shelf and uh i'm i'm basically 100 off booze except perhaps sometimes a red wine for the resveratrol because it lowers cortisol levers and levels and resveratrol is not bad but it typically will avoid all alcohol so i've got these uh this watch and i've got my fitness tracker and i'm always talking about training and eating right you drink wine or beer any alcohol and then wake up in the morning and look at your fitness tracker and it's all red alert, all warnings. Yes. And I'm just like, holy fuck, it's fucking up my gains. Yeah. So fuck that shit. No, I don't drink either. Same for the same reason. And you know, look, nothing against drinking. Y'all do whatever you want. But there's
Starting point is 00:08:41 carcinogenics in there. There are a lot lot of issues kind of long-term consumption of alcohol arguably probably quite a bit more dangerous than uh you know cannabis and some of these other things that are out definitely yeah yeah but anyway when we at the castle lauren southern was on the show and she poured it's it's a it's like a 1700 of pappy very expensive rare whiskey into a paper cup, just pouring it in, thinking, I'm going to drink this whiskey and get drunk. And she had the bottle, and then the chat saw that she was pouring Pappy. You know Pappy?
Starting point is 00:09:14 Yeah, Pappy Van Winkle. And it was like the $1,700 bottle, and then people were like, all the whiskey people were screaming. And so then she was like, I'm gonna do it again and then so when uh she came the next time i think i don't know if she actually poured the uh louie into it she probably did um but we're not doing booze here now booze is officially out
Starting point is 00:09:35 and it's and and for one reason guests don't drink it it just lingered forever yeah it just sat around uh more and more over the past few years when we first started i got the booze because people were like oh i have a drink no one drinks anymore and so everyone would bring in older guys go nah i don't touch the stuff i've been clean for x amount of time younger guys are like oh i i don't want to drink nobody really ever wants to drink if we did wine i'm sure everyone most people would probably be like i could have a glass but i'm not gonna drink a glass of wine on a show. That's kind of weird.
Starting point is 00:10:07 Beers we had, but they rarely would anybody would drink it. And I'm just like, I don't really see the point in loading up this shelf with all the fancy booze at the bar that most people don't touch anyway. And there's just no reason to do it. It's not in the setting. This isn't, you're not throwing ragers here. So it's like, oh, so you don't want to get buzzed off. I think the culture is shifting now. I think the culture is.
Starting point is 00:10:29 Yeah. No, the idea was to like have a glass of wine. I'm sorry, like a glass of a scotch on the rocks as we're talking politics and it's available. People want it. But the,
Starting point is 00:10:39 the, the, the booze at the castle is mostly untouched. There's a full bottle of like lefroy 25 or something that no one has touched maybe it's too nice and you're intimidating people with the nice the super nice liquors i tell people like you want i'll say like we have uh we have drinks we have coffee we have uh you know water soda milk we've got booze any booze you want and they go nah and so i think maybe like one in 20 or one in 30 guests might have it.
Starting point is 00:11:06 I feel like I only ever see it as like people who have been on the show multiple times and they'll sometimes have something during the after show. So it's pretty infrequent. Yeah, Seamus would have some whiskey sometimes. Yeah. Again, some of the people who have just like been on the show, it's a different environment for them. Especially when we switch to the after show, it's like more relaxed. But it's just a lot of people saying they don't want to drink. On alcohol, it's interesting because I think some people say they drink it to enjoy the flavors
Starting point is 00:11:30 and not to get a buzz. I drink a few times a month, and I'm drinking to get a buzz solely. I don't enjoy the flavors of alcohol. So it's interesting when people, to me, when people drink a little bit just for the flavors. What does a buzz do? Why do you need a buzz?
Starting point is 00:11:44 I feel good when I'm drunk. I feel euphoric. I feel a little tipsy. You know. I'm not drinking for the flavors, so I never understood why anybody would just have one glass or so. Maybe I sound like an alcoholic saying that.
Starting point is 00:11:56 I find that I feel better eating beef jerky. You know, it's like, that's probably why I don't drink at all if i'm drinking one i'm trying to drink like three to five i drink three to five beers so first of all yeah i think look if if i go we'll go out sometimes like me allison and i and i'll order a wine thinking like you know every so often to get some alcohol for the it does lower cortisol it does relieve stress and i'm not super stressed but i'll take two sips and then just not touch it and be like i literally just can't drink it
Starting point is 00:12:29 it does nothing for me and if i get buzzed it just makes me feel a little dizzy you know little foggy and uh do you get flushed because right you're half korean quarter sometimes yeah but not not but i think some yeah sometimes for sure but uh for the most part i just i would feel happier chewing on a piece of beef jerky or biltong yeah the like the the meat oh it tastes so good i was just eating this so i it was a it was a um what is it i gotta shut him up where this? It's, what is this company? Righteous Felon Craft Jerky. Street Taco Al Pastor Pineapple Pork.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Holy crap, that was good. The feeling I get from eating pork is incomparable. Like, booze does not make me feel good. Eating pork makes me feel good. There's something also, I think, to say about alcohol, how deeply alcohol is entrenched within human and social culture. Even before our time
Starting point is 00:13:30 as a Jew, we drink wine on the Sabbath, so it really goes I'm sure Christians have. I'm Catholic. Or Catholic, maybe you could talk a little bit about the equivalents there, but it is deeply ingrained in our culture for thousands of years. Yeah, I mean, wine's obviously part of the communion in the Catholic Church.
Starting point is 00:13:47 I'm not going to get into the debate of trade and substantiation or anything like that right now, but yeah, I mean, certainly it's always been a part of it, but I think this, especially what you saw in college campuses and things like this maximalist, drunk constantly all the time thing, I think is something that lasts 40, 50 years that then we've exported like, like countries like, I don't know, England that used to like, well, they'll drink a couple of pints of beer or whatever they do. And then we exported that over to them. And it's our worst export because in the UK, the drinking age is 18. So you start younger, like it's legal younger and America America's 21-year-old, I think, 21-year-old's drinking age makes it so during that year that you have independence, you're an adult, but you can't drink.
Starting point is 00:14:32 You just encourage binge drinking, right? You know, I've been drinking since probably, like, I don't know, 10. Really? How old are you at First Communion? Oh, that's. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's true. You guys are crazy.
Starting point is 00:14:44 So second, third grade. But when I was little, my parents would always have like a beer or something, right? Not always, but like in the summer nights, sitting outside in the backyard, drinking a Miller or whatever nasty beer. I wouldn't touch a Miller if my life depended on it. But back then, I just assumed,
Starting point is 00:15:01 because my parents were like, you can't have it, beer's for adults. I'm imagining this must be like the sweetest, most delicious fruit punch. Because I love fruit punch. Like, fruit punch was like my favorite drink. And so I'm like, beer must be like the best. And then I remember I was probably like 10. My mom was like, do you want to taste it?
Starting point is 00:15:20 And she gave me like a spoonful. And I was like, ah! Like every kid spat. I'm like, are you drinking that? What is it? Disgusting. taste it and she gave me like a spoonful and i was like like every kid spat like you're drinking that what is it disgusting and i still feel that way to this day although to be fair yingling actually is that probably yingling and blue moon i actually like but i don't like drinking alcohol i just prefer not to do it and drink water yingling american company yes yingling they're good based pennsylvania i believe raymond g and the chat says ayo the beef sticks i got are they Just water. Yingling, American company. Yes, Yingling. They're good. Based. Pennsylvania, I believe.
Starting point is 00:15:45 Raymond G. in the chat says, Ayo, the beef sticks I got, are they good, Tim? Raymond G., they are based AF. I ate three already. I'm lying. But it's protein, so I'll take it. I think the fact that alcohol is a big part of social culture is sort of the biggest issue.
Starting point is 00:16:02 Although I've read studies that Gen Z is opting not to drink. And I wonder if that's number one, because their socialization is slightly off, but also because it's just, it's not the thing anymore. Like we were talking about this, like culture of binge drinking has sort of died away.
Starting point is 00:16:16 It's like, I drink on occasion. It's not like a regular part of my routine, but I find that there is a big difference as you get older in the shift of like, what am I prioritizing, right? Like if you have things to do or like I was reading about, you know, the anti-inflammatory protocol diet and this one girl was talking about it and she was saying like it was in my routine to, you know, go get drinks with my friends on Friday or Saturday night maybe
Starting point is 00:16:41 or Saturday morning and maybe go to like brunch with my boyfriend and we'd get champagne. And when she had to go on this diet because alcohol is really inflammatory to the body yes had to cut it and so she had to start like shifting what she was doing which means like when she's hanging out with a friend just do something slightly different also cuts coffee because coffee can be inflammatory uh and i think that is sort of where our culture is changing in a way that i don't know that I would have predicted, like the prioritization of wellness and the fact that people are willing to sacrifice things that like would have maybe been seen as like a social crutch. That's fascinating.
Starting point is 00:17:13 The fact that this is at a time when people feel the economic burden, when health care is a big issue, they're starting to say like, well, if this is going to potentially damage me, it's not worth it. Well, the interesting thing is, and we were talking about this a little bit in between segments, is Sierra Nevada coming up with this sparkling water, hop water. A lot of these companies now, whether it's, I don't know, Bud Light, Corona, Heineken, whoever it is, it's not, you remember back in the day, like the non-alcoholic beers like O'Doul's, it was terrible, right? They're actually, Guinness now has a non-alcoholic beers like o'douls it was terrible right they're actually guinness now has a non-alcoholic guinness i mean it's it's every they're coming out with a lot of these
Starting point is 00:17:50 non-alcoholic drinks by beer companies yeah i know liquid death is extremely popular and in all the bars now in new york city they have mocktails where you could get like uh fake because i think it's like wellness culture i really think this is the big part of it. Yeah, look, if you work out, it will affect your gains. I promise you that. And I won't go anywhere near that. See, skateboarding gains are tracked by the maneuvers you are accomplishing. And I'll be damned if I will go backwards. So, you know, I'm not sitting there thinking about how many reps I'm going to do at 10, 15, 25, 35 or whatever.
Starting point is 00:18:23 You know, I'm thinking about at 10 15 25 35 or whatever you know i'm thinking about uh today i ollied over five decks like 10 times yeah and uh tomorrow i won't ollie over six so that's actually one way you can track obvious gains how high you're jumping how high you're ollieing oh yeah but for me for the most part it's like uh i wanted to try a nollie nose blunt on the curb it's been a long time since I've done a Nolly Nose Blunt on a ledge. And so the first thing I want to do is a Nolly Nose Grind. Riley knows exactly what I'm talking about. No, Nolly Nose Blunt is a little sketch for me at this point in my life.
Starting point is 00:18:56 Right. And so it's like I've done it before, but now that I'm like trying to track my daily progress, you can't drink booze, man. It's like, so here's what happens. Yesterday, I, so for those that aren't familiar, nose blunt is when, you know what? Let's like, let's pull up a video so I can explain it. Yeah. And just to highlight, nolly nose blunt is a high slip out factor. Yes.
Starting point is 00:19:25 So let's see nose blunt ledge. So people can actually watch what that is. How to frontside nose blunt. What's going on, everybody? Today we're going to be. Welcome. This is Coyote Rob Shreds, 17,000 subscribers. Shout out.
Starting point is 00:19:37 Let me see. I just want to get a quick picture of here's a, let's see if it's, let's see if he does the nose blunt. And a little trick that I use is I like to approach it and I like to trick my brain into thinking. All right. So this, what I'm trying to do basically is similar to this, but instead of jumping off of your back foot, I use my front foot.
Starting point is 00:19:55 And so I was putting myself in that position just to get the pop out because I can, we were filming, I was doing switch blunts on the mini ramp. So, so it's all there. A nose grind would be if you don't turn so if you just go straight up and land on the truck it's a lot lot easier yeah and so uh i was a little scared i was a little scared to get into those because the high slip-out factor especially on that butter bench ledge that we have so within two tries i easily did a nollie nose grind tries, I easily did a nollie nose grind knowing I could easily do a nollie nose blunt.
Starting point is 00:20:28 But I'm thinking to myself, I don't want to go crazy and just start trying everything, every single trick I've ever done. I want to build up to where I'm consistently getting it. So I did like three or four nollie nose grinds. And then I tried a nollie nose grind 360 shove it out. Spun a couple of them, didn't land any.
Starting point is 00:20:42 And I was like, tomorrow I will advance to the next stage next stage yeah i only got six hours and 50 minutes of sleep i went to sleep late and uh i woke up checked my fitness meters and they were telling me like hey and then sure enough when i skated my coordination was slightly off and i was like i knew it you got to maximize everything i got to make sure i got my macros tracked properly. I'm sleeping minimum seven hours. I was sleeping six hours before, and I've been intentionally forcing myself, just turning everything off and laying down wide awake, not tired. And I don't care. I'm going to sleep. And that's really helped. And they say that any kind of exercise, whether it's lifting weights, any of those types of, if you don't get into like sleep that triggers a recovery mode
Starting point is 00:21:27 in there like you have to have a certain amount of recovery time to kind of grab those gains then yeah i mean you're not you're going to be off you're going to be off should we uh should we go to callers yep let's do it all right i want to talk to this Slick Boss Man, 724. How you doing, Slick Boss Man? Hey, what's up? So I just wanted to do a little update for you guys. This is the burpees. So before I answer the question, I can do 220 minutes now.
Starting point is 00:21:59 Wait, wait, wait. 220 minutes of burpees? No, he can do 200 burpees in 20 minutes. Oh, 20 minutes. That's so crazy. He's the guy who's trying to get to like 500. So are you just like ripped? Yeah, it's 500.
Starting point is 00:22:13 Are you just like rock solid now? Actually, I'm just skinny. You're trying to get to 520 minutes? No, 500 in one session. I'll consider that an hour yeah yeah i mean that makes sense i don't know how you get to yeah that's unbelievable um but i've seen it done in 35 minutes actually what wow yeah one of my friends he was an inmate and he's the one who taught me burpees he was able to do um uh 500 burpees in 30 minutes i love it let's let's all have dreams that we aspire to yeah because he asked us he challenged us to do this and i was like i don't
Starting point is 00:22:51 know that i've never been to prison isn't that what they do in prison he said his friend who was an inmate oh but you know that's a great thing about exercise is whether it's skateboarding whether it's doing a bunch of burpees whatever it it is. And I'll give him his due here, the quote. The old singer, Black Flag there, Henry Rollins, they said, why do you like lifting weights so much? He says, the iron doesn't lie. Interesting. Anyway, so here's my question.
Starting point is 00:23:21 So I just want to do that little update for you guys. And I also wanted to point your attention to this, which I actually think is pretty horrifying. A study came out recently that 80% to 90% of men that subscribe to OnlyFans are actually married. So should this change how we view individuals who use OnlyFans and given the inevitable rise of AI girlfriends? And with the demographics of this study,
Starting point is 00:23:44 what does this mean going forward to society and marriage as a whole? What we should do is launch the world's biggest fundraiser on GiveSendGo to buy OnlyFans and then publish all of the user information. I wonder if it's unique to OnlyFans or it has similar numbers across.
Starting point is 00:24:04 I'm sure it's unique to OnlyFans or it has similar numbers across. I'm sure it has. I mean, there's an epidemic in this country as it relates to pornography, just generally. And people are getting into it younger and younger and younger. And this is the difference in between a libertarian and conservative, right? Because the libertarian mindset is going to say, sure, two consenting adults, do whatever you want. It was – I think it was – is it Kaplan with the Kaplan Institute? Is that Robert Kaplan? I think his name is. Anyway, they were – who's like the guys that relates to conservative thought and asked about pornography.
Starting point is 00:24:40 And he said, no, it's fine, two consenting adults. To me, it has a really corrosive effect on society and the way that we're interacting with each other. And then also the way that young people are looking at how to interact with the opposite sex, right? Like these are not normal relationships that are being displayed on these sites. And I think it's really damaging, I think, to a lot of young people,
Starting point is 00:25:06 to families, all of that stuff. I think as a result of their inability to keep minors off of their websites, some states banned some porn websites. Well, yeah, they said- Loosely, I'm sure they're workarounds. It's age verification laws. Age verification laws,
Starting point is 00:25:20 which I think that should be, to me, I think that should be a federal law. I think that should absolutely be a federal law. There should be an age verification federal law on this. Now, obviously, the Supreme Court and other courts have talked about this. You remember, what was the movie about Flint versus, yeah, I can't remember the name of it, but kind of where they were trying to shut down Hustler Magazine, and it was deemed First Amendment protected speech and things of that nature. You're going to run into that, obviously.
Starting point is 00:25:49 But why do we have a rating system on movies, right? Like as a society, we've decided there are certain things children can see and certain things children cannot see. That was a moral judgment as a society that we made. Why can't we make, which this is way worse than an R-rated movie, why can't we make that same judgment as it relates to age verification? I think there's a serious issue with the ubiquity of porn. When I was a child, it wasn't easy access to the internet. And the only scantily printed women was like,
Starting point is 00:26:22 on magazines behind like, in a gas station behind a shelf or something that i couldn't easily get to but nowadays it's really only a couple of clicks away on all social media apps there's not maybe hardcore porn but softcore porn um which is still bad and could you know um so the ubiquity here it's almost unavoidable um at least the softcore version on different social i was listening to a couple um being interviewed about their relationship and he the guy was talking about how he had struggled pornography addiction for years and they had met when they were in college and he was like i really love her i always have but this is just always something i dealt with to the point where like he was watching porn the night before their wedding and then the night of
Starting point is 00:27:00 their wedding he like couldn't perform it was like so ingrained in how he operated and functioned and it took a really long time and it had super negative consequences on their marriage i mean it's it's something that i think people don't want to talk about because it makes you uncomfortable and you have to talk especially with like teenage boys you don't want to talk about what they're doing when they're watching porn you know but ultimately it's their neural pathways being formed that will shape the way they make decisions and form relationships for the rest of their life like it is critical that someone does something not to mention the human trafficking aspect of it not to mention just the general encouraging of debauchery and the fact that like
Starting point is 00:27:32 when you are watching a lot of porn you end up seeking out bigger and bigger thrills basically which means gets more and more bizarre and weird which then you bring into culture like this is not something you would do to someone who you wanted to have a healthy and successful life. Expose them to pornography early and often. There's a lot of violent pornography. And then you're weighing the freedoms of speech.
Starting point is 00:27:53 There's a story right now on the Daily Mail. Let me see if I can find it, actually. Where it's this guy who was applying to be a cop. He's 26. Here we go. It's right here.
Starting point is 00:28:03 Check this out. Florida man trying to get job as police officer blurts out that he sexually abused girl nine during interview steven bodley 26 was convicted last week on sexual abuse charges now hold on it's a wild thing to just so what it is a weird thing to say but what they need to tell you is that he was uh 14 and it's a big difference between a 14 year old and a 26 year old not saying it's still good or anything like that but he was 14 and the girl was they say nine but then they later say 12 uh on okay so they so so like it was it was a uh what he said was he had been watching a bunch of porn and then started acting it out when he was 14 with his like a younger family member.
Starting point is 00:28:47 Then when he was applying for a job, he just flat out said that he did it, which is glad he admitted it. So he can be locked up for it, which he is being locked up for. Have you seen the stuff about I believe it's Nicki Minaj's husband? He's he's a registered sex offender. And so at her concerts in California they have to like put out a warning all the kids have to be like it's totally real at a like specific area guarded by police because she wants him there but I was looking at this I was like it's crazy she's married to to what but it turns out and again this is not okay but when he was 16 he like assaulted
Starting point is 00:29:20 another 16 year old and he was charged he served like four years in prison and whatever else. And he pled to attempted rape, even though there were like very serious injuries. It's very weird. But then Googling this, Nick Minaj is another relative who abused his stepdaughter. Like these horrible things that we hear all the time, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:39 it's, it's, I think in part, you know, some people are evil. They're always going to do evil things. But the other part is like, if we don't have a society that is like, these are unacceptable things that we do not allow, then it's just going to become something that we get used
Starting point is 00:29:51 to in a horrible way. Correction. He was 12 to 13, while he was 12 and 13, he was watching a bunch of porn and then started acting out those things with his nine-year-old, the nine-year-old family member. So this is a little kid who is being shown hardcore psychologically destructive porn and look what he turns into. I think a lot of 12 and 13-year-olds have access to this type of material.
Starting point is 00:30:17 I don't think this is uncommon. But I think it gets treated as a like, you know, boys will be boys. Like, oh, they always seek this stuff out, which is like maybe true to a certain extent, but that doesn't mean that we should just be like so it should get worse and worse and worse and we should let it reign more freely in our society so to go back to the previous conversation so alcohol is so much harder for them to access than pornography yeah we have a lot of very
Starting point is 00:30:38 stringent laws and controls on alcohol but not on pornography yep because it's legalized and people are checking who is actually purchasing it on some of the streets anyways just want to add that part anything else to add to this by by the way my friend um i just wanted to point out like it's 80 to 90 percent of men on that site that are uh 89 percent of the males that subscribe to that are married so what does that say about marriage as a whole like what's going on i think they came into the marriage with a porn problem yeah like the fact that you would go to only fans before it means you have been watching pornography for years no i don't know i'm not a man i can't say for sure but i don't think anyone starts at only
Starting point is 00:31:19 fans i think they start somewhere else and it gets really bad only fans you also need to be a special kind of porn guy i think to get into OnlyFans specifically because there's a lot of free stuff out there. Maybe I'm reading too much into this. They want the interaction. It's more than porn at that point. Guys on OnlyFans are basically men who
Starting point is 00:31:37 want to have sex with men pretending to be women. They're sexually turned on by the idea of a big fat 40 year old you know overweight guy saying i'm a sweet young thing and they're like it gets them off you know they because everybody knows you're not really chatting with the woman you're chatting with a staffer who's probably some like you know dude oh maybe these guys would go better than we do as Andrew Tate said he did it yeah yeah Tate said that he would go on their accounts and message guys saying nasty things to them.
Starting point is 00:32:07 And dudes love it. So, I forgot where I was. So you know he could talk dirty. There was a survey. They asked guys, do you care that you're actually talking to a guy? They said no.
Starting point is 00:32:16 The guys don't care. The guys get off and having guys talk dirty to them. That's why they're on OnlyFans. It's the state of men in this country. Yep. Shall we go to the next caller? Indeed,
Starting point is 00:32:27 we shall. Thanks very much, Slick Boss Man. You're welcome. Burpees are based. Burpees are based. Cheers. All right. Let's talk to some guy. What's good, some guy? How you doing? I'm
Starting point is 00:32:43 doing well. How is everyone tonight? Great. Excellent. Thanks. Good. Good. All right. Well, I appreciate you taking my call. I'll be brief. My question is for Riley. So a couple years back, you launched a little bit of a campaign against BlackRock
Starting point is 00:33:00 using a state law to blacklist them from West Virginia. And I was just, the media doesn't do a good job following up or anything. So I just wanted to know a little bit more about that. How did that go? How did the 15 state coalition thing go? And what was it like to go toe to toe with them? And could you give us any inside baseball? Yeah, no, thanks for the question. And it is something that I'm extremely proud of here in West Virginia. I was the first elected official in the country to divest our tax dollars from
Starting point is 00:33:30 BlackRock, which is a terrible, evil company. And if you don't know about them, I would look that up. But that coalition that we started, all of those states have divested from BlackRock. And then we passed a law here called the Restricted Financial Institution List, which said if you're boycotting the fossil fuel industry, you will lose your ability to bid on any contract for financial services with the state government of West Virginia. We got another 10 states to pass that bill. And we've seen a lot, and I just put four new institutions on there, Citi being one of them and several others. And that was just a few months back.
Starting point is 00:34:08 But two of them, two of them, I didn't actually end up putting on Fifth Third, Bank of Montreal, Bank of America was another one that got taken off. They actually changed their policy because they know if they got on my list, they get on Texas list, they get on Kentucky and some of these other states, they get on their list. They get on Texas lists. They get on Kentucky and some of these other states. They get on their list. So it's the point of this, why we are doing this was to push back against ESG. That's the environmental social governance movement in this country. And I think we are winning. Have we won? No, we've not won. I would say there's a lot of work that has to be done. And some of that work
Starting point is 00:34:42 needs to be done at the federal level and not to get too far into it, but I'll give you a great example. Rating agencies that do bond ratings for states. So S&P Global, for instance, was about to downgrade our bond rating in West Virginia due to the industries that we have. Also, they cited demographics, whatever the hell that means, was one of the reasons that we were going to get downgraded in our bond rating here in west virginia specifically because of fossil fuel industries which basically means if we don't destroy our businesses then it's an extortion racket right so if we don't comport ourselves to their values then we're going to pay more for our bond rating, which means we pay more. We're going to get downgraded on bond rating means we pay more for schools, roads, hospitals,
Starting point is 00:35:31 all those things. So that is something because you got Moody's, S&P Global that has to be handled at the federal level. And that's actually one of the reasons that I'm running is I'm the only one that would have actual experience winning at this and trying to take it to the next level. But if you look at the last round of proxy voting by BlackRock, they only supported 7% of activist resolutions. And State Street, I think was maybe 10%. Vanguard was like 3%. These guys used to be 50%, 60% supporting activist resolutions on corporate boards. So I think we're winning. I don't think it's over, but we're going to keep fighting on this issue.
Starting point is 00:36:12 That's a good answer. That's awesome. Thanks. I love it. Keep fighting the good fight. Thank you so much. You guys have a great night. You too.
Starting point is 00:36:20 Thank you. Thanks, man. Cheers. All right. Let's hear from Sparky from Ohio. How you doing? Howdy, howdy. How's it going?
Starting point is 00:36:32 Good. Howdy, howdy. Hey. So I got a question for the MIG monkey, but also for the panel as a whole. How can we go about getting trades back into the curriculum? By my name, I'm also in the trades, but I only do well by accident. In high school, I went to like a top 150 high school in the nation when I graduated. I sat through several dozen lectures from quote-unquote professionals,
Starting point is 00:37:03 but never once saw anyone from any trade background. Home economics has been cut. Shop has been cut. Anything relating to the trades has been cut. So how do we remedy this is my question. Get on school boards, run for office, vote for people, make it a campaign issue. Yeah. And you mentioned MIG monkey. I actually used to be a welder myself. That's how I started my career. MIG, TIG, STIC, all that stuff. So I know what you're referencing there. Here in West Virginia, yeah, we started a program called the Jumpstart Savings Program. I started and it all related to my background. So you're able to save dollars for college right now, 529 college savings plan.
Starting point is 00:37:53 I run that as well. We set up what's called the Jumpstart Savings Program. And this is for after graduation from a trade, vocational school or union apprenticeship. And it allows you to save money for after graduation to buy tools, equipment, licenses, certifications, and new business startup costs to try to incentivize people to get into the trades. Now, look, if I would have stayed a welder, I'd be making more money than I am right now as state treasurer. I'll tell you that. You go working on a pipeline, you're making pretty good money. But here in West Virginia, we have started to bring
Starting point is 00:38:23 trades back into the high schools. You remember there were a lot of schools where you go 11th and 12th grade and do a trade halfway in the day and then finish out your curriculum through the rest of the day. I went to trade school myself and became a certified welder. That's one of those things like, look look i want to make jumpstart a national program and incentivize people to go into the trades and i think this is one way to do that because they what's prohibitive in getting involved in that type of industry is those upfront costs like if you're an auto mechanic people don't know this you have to buy all your own tools all of them you have to buy all of them and they're expensive. And so it's not the education piece that's really so expensive. It's after education and going out and being able to buy those tools, equipment, things like that. So it's something that I've been really focused on as state treasurer. If I get into Congress, I'm going to be focused on it as well and try to make Jumpstart a national program. Do you think West Virginia has a different relationship with trade schools than other places?
Starting point is 00:39:27 Like I remember the high school I went to, I wasn't from northwestern Connecticut. It was pretty rural. I mean, I graduated with like 85 kids in my class. But we didn't have a woodshop. And I at the time didn't know if that was because they didn't want us to. They wanted everyone to be college bound because that's how they rank high schools. Or if it was because we just had too few kids. Like, is it that I had fewer options, or is that the culture was such that they were like, college is the most important thing?
Starting point is 00:39:52 Well, this has always been a blue collar state. It's always been a blue collar state. And, you know, we do have a significant trade union preference, or pardon me, presence in the state of West Virginia as they do in Ohio over there from the collar. There's a lot of trade unions over there building construction trades. And that's been the same way here in West Virginia. But we got union non-union presence in West Virginia on both sides of that. And I think there's been this huge push towards college like it's the only answer. It is not the only answer. People listening to this, explore the trades. There are a lot of good options out there where you come out with
Starting point is 00:40:31 no college debt, making good money. And, you know, look, if you want to go get a degree in Russian literature and become a barista at Starbucks, you know, be my guest. That's an option. But the trades, really, we got to put more emphasis back on the trades. If we're going to build stuff in this country, we have to. Sometimes I think there's like a blue collar bias. Like you're saying you were a welder, but now you're running for Congress. Like some people feel like, oh, I'll just get stuck at a certain level. Oh, yeah. Really, you could be you could have a trade and start a business. Like it's not the end point.
Starting point is 00:41:01 The problem, the big issue is that they're saying college is the only way to have any kind of economic mobility, but you're actually being saddled with tons and tons of business. Like it's not the end point. The problem, the big issue is that they're saying college is the only way to have any kind of economic mobility, but you're actually being saddled with tons and tons of debt. No, I think there's stagnation among college educated, like bachelor degrees. I think there's stagnation as it relates to wages in this country right now. And there is a lot of opportunity in the trades. I know guys working on pipelines making $200,000 a year right now. And there were six months on six months off. I mean, that's a pretty good deal. Yeah, I mean, it's it did it does have a stigma. I welded and then I actually worked in a mining operation at first like an open pit mine like rock quarry kind of stuff. And I ended up going to college was welding
Starting point is 00:41:42 through college and going part-time, then full-time still welding. And then when I wanted to go at some point, work on the hill, and I go to the hill and they look at my resume and they say, you went to trade school here and you're a welder. And the question I used to get all the time, which is terrible, they say, what happened? Like something had to happen negative in my life. To send you into politics? Yeah, no, to be a welder. Oh, interesting. Yeah. I mean, that was like the stigma on it. It's like, why would you be a welder? Like what happened? Like your life fall apart and you decided to.
Starting point is 00:42:17 And who's interviewing someone with like $100,000 in college debt because they went to get their bachelor's and master's? Right. It's like, oh, you got a communications degree. Congratulations. I have a communications degree. I'm going to tell you. Yeah. It's really not that great. I mean, it's fine. I think there is a level of like, if you are intellectually curious, you're always going
Starting point is 00:42:34 to pursue the things that college offers you. But it's not the answer to the American dream that it was for maybe like our great grandparents. No, it's not this, you know, vending machine of money in, product out, right? And I think that's what people are looking for as it relates to college, and it doesn't work like that. Yeah. It used to be you went to college for a passion
Starting point is 00:42:54 and you'd make that passion money. You'd make money off that passion. But right now it's, you go to college because that's what your teacher does. I went to a top it was uh when i graduated it was 153rd in the nation i think and i went there i actually ran a uh build out on there for the electrician side of it and i ended up working in a guidance counselor's office and i got to talking with him and he had just the most like honestly it felt
Starting point is 00:43:27 like he wanted to piss on me because he didn't think the trades were any good at all were you uh ibew or uh no i'm not union man i hate the government i'm sorry no um. Independent electrical contractors in Ohio. Actually, we are expanding. If anybody has any kind of wants to get into the trades or kids that don't want them settled with
Starting point is 00:43:55 debt, send me a message. I'll get you hooked up with my company. We're expanding into Columbus right now. We're in Cincinnati right now. A lot of growth in Columbus. That's cool. Yeah. Right on.
Starting point is 00:44:09 Anything else to add, friend? No, that's about it. The only thing I did want to add as a side note is it'd be awesome if you had a floating Friday because I usually get to work at 6 a.m. and this is fucking up my production day tomorrow, but I really did want to talk to a tradesman running for office
Starting point is 00:44:29 because I think that if we had more tradesmen in the office, we wouldn't have such fucked up government right now. I'm thinking about starting a welder's caucus. I'll be a caucus of one. Electricians are better than welders. You do it on purpose. One pl plumber in congress one former plumber oh good i saw i made a weird excel document with all of this because i was so curious about any welders i can't think i'll pull back out and i'll let you know but so i wanted to tweet oh god if you get elected you'll be the one welder in office
Starting point is 00:45:03 there you go. True diversity. All right. Shall we go to the next caller? Indeed. Thanks, brother. I wanted to tweet a troll tweet that I thought was pretty clever. I was going to say Palestine is right about LGBTQ people. But then I thought about it and thought that one goes too far even for me.
Starting point is 00:45:19 So instead I tweeted, I wanted to post a troll tweet saying something like Palestine is right about LGBTQ people but that one goes too far for me I still expressed the idea but I don't want to endorse Hamas' views on gay people It's just 10 years in prison by the way I thought we were going to get through a whole show without an Israel reference but you just ruined it We have a few minutes left and I thought we were coasting almost tarnished it yep lord die now uh how you
Starting point is 00:45:48 doing hey hey people i'm doing well how about yourselves hey what's great doing all right thanks man doing well so i have a question for the panel uh in the 2020 election uh arizona state uh leaned uh more towards biden but it was a pretty even match. But in the Senate, they were ahead plus six, plus seven for Mark Kelly. In the end, Biden won that state due to numerous factors. And since then, there's been a massive influx of California residents moving to Arizona the last four years. Throwback to your morning segment, Tim. But 42% of the top five states are liberal.
Starting point is 00:46:33 Or sorry, 42% of people moving from the states are from more liberal states. So from just the data I've seen, it looks like Arizona itself is moving more blue than perhaps even Texas is. So with all the polls coming out right now for you know trump being ahead as far as he is is sorry 42 percent of the people who are from blue areas yes that means the majority of people are moving in unless there's independence too yeah well theoretically it could be the bluer states getting bluer as the people who lean slightly
Starting point is 00:47:02 conservative are like i'm out of here i've got a little red state. It's the conservatives leaving the blue areas. Yeah. I mean, sometimes you do get the kind of liberal locust effect, where it's they've destroyed one area and then go to the next and do the exact same thing that caused them to leave to begin with. But I do think there are a lot of conservatives also leaving those states. I mean, we see that in West Virginia all the time. What was your question about it? Or was it just what do you guys think? It was just kind of a lead up. I was just going to ask for about the polls, because right now all the polls are showing that Donald Trump is ahead by wide margins in most
Starting point is 00:47:33 or in a lot of states right now. And I suppose the question then is with the constant influx of residents and the illegal immigration problem, is it possible that even the polls themselves are part of the shadow campaign or false flags in those swing states? Well, remember how accurate the polls were in 2016, right? I mean, this was the famous issue. The pollsters got it wrong. There are only a couple that got it right. Larry Elder referenced this when they wouldn't let him on the debate stage this year. He was saying, you know, they were saying you can't use the, who was it? I can't remember, Rasmussen, I think. And he was like, well, I should be able to use it for these reasons, but also it was one of the few ones that got 2016
Starting point is 00:48:11 correct. So arguably it's more accurate. You know, polling data, I think you always have to take with a grain of salt. Maybe this is something you can talk about because you're in the middle of an election. But I think the polls are really interesting right now because it's almost as if they're kind of realizing that Trump does have an advantage. But there are a lot of the ones I see reported in the mainstream media are like, but it's in the margin of error. But this is not that. Well, it's only one percent. And that's because, you know, all the Biden voters were off doing what there is sort of excuse making. Again, it does make me worried that this is sort of a like way to lull conservatives into complacency so they don't actually vote on Election Day. But it's hard to say for sure because we don't always the polls are not always accurate. Yeah. Look, I'm going to tell you this as a fact, depending on who it is putting out the polls.
Starting point is 00:49:00 People cook polls all the time. Happens all the time. We cooked one the other day on the chat. I said, should, we were having an abortion debate, and I said, should babies of incest be exempt from abortion law? What does that mean? And so it went 50-50, and then it leaned slightly towards no. And then it's like, it just depends on what the law says. So I could create any answer I wanted that question. Yeah, you can you can load the questions, but you can also
Starting point is 00:49:29 wait the polls. So you go in and you re-wait. And so the waiting mechanisms in those really kind of, you know, you got leading questions, you can wait polls. But just remember that Trump underperformed in every poll in 2016 and pulled it out. And I think that he does not poll well generally, because I think supporters of President Trump tend to not answer those calls, polling calls, because they think, you know, their data is going to get tracked and all those other things. I don't think it's that. I think that Trump Trump upended the system. So polling is based on predict. It's predictive models. They think we want to call a family that lives in this county.
Starting point is 00:50:12 We want to call a family lives in this county, in this county. They call 2000 families and they're like all of these different counties represent, you know, based on the analysis, how the election turned out. So these families represent these areas. Trump supporters were new voters who never voted before and were typically not counted in these models in this way. So the modeling, even with or without them included in the polling, did not calculate for certain areas that don't normally vote lighting up with new voters. Yeah. And that's part of that waiting. And then the other, not only can you wait them geographically, but they have to wait these based on what they predict the turnout's going to be, right? There's also something to be said about how much influence these polls have on the news cycle.
Starting point is 00:50:59 Yes. Whatever, you know, we love to hear a poll. You can have the poll, whatever results you want. And then we build a larger narrative around that. And it's like, how much are we buying into, you know, fickle polls of results that we could kind of make them say what we want and then creating stories based on that. And in politics, we do that a lot. We give way too much credit to polls and develop new stories and narratives around them when they might not necessarily be true. I'll give you a great example.
Starting point is 00:51:24 So if I said, okay, I'm going to do a poll, say I'm a pollster, I'm going to do a poll and I have a moderate Republican candidate that I'd like to see overperform in this poll. In places where you allow independents to vote in Republican primaries, I will say, well, you know, independent turnout's usually like, I don't know, 15 percent. But I think it's going to be more like 30 percent. And then I will oversample and overweight the independent vote and then get those samples come in. It's like, well, here's the poll. The pollsters do this all the time for Democrats.
Starting point is 00:51:55 Oh, all the time. If you look at the cross tabs and everything, you'll see the amount of Democrats. It'll be like a total of 2000 registered voters. And it was like 1300 Democrats. And you're like, wait, well, hold on a minute. 1,300 Democrats and you're like wait well hold on a minute yeah that's the overwhelming majority of the people and then it's like we're all as a Biden's up six at 60 points and Trump's at 30 like I wonder why yeah I mean depends on who you talk to well we we did a poll and found that uh Timcast IRL is the is a national poll the most
Starting point is 00:52:20 uh the most popular podcast uh in the country we pulled three people it was um you know my my cousin my mom and my dad everybody at the company everyone at the company and everyone agreed it's the best show ever and so that like as silly as that sounds that's basically how polls operate yeah bill burr has a yeah bill burr the comedian right and then there's bill barr who's the ag but bill burr has he he i saw him do an interview once and he was like these pollsters just ask each other they just sit around they're like who you think's gonna win and you okay that's the guy let's say like i don't know 50 percent won we do need to start winding things down though so is there anything else you
Starting point is 00:52:58 wanted to add good sir uh no just that bill burr for ag would be really entertaining yeah let's go I'm not always great with names although he's the guy who went he's like what do I care I turn on the TV he said wear a mask
Starting point is 00:53:11 he said don't wear a mask I just turn the TV on I tell him what to do and I was like that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard anyway thanks for calling in man
Starting point is 00:53:18 absolutely thank you guys cheers bro Riley thanks for hanging out thanks for having me you gotta come by when you can we'll get some
Starting point is 00:53:24 skate clips with the boonies and we'll uh good good warm-up session some protein shakes and we'll get you landing those switch tray flips in no time let's go all right he landed you you landed uh uh i guess i guess it's fakie backside a fakie frontside no slide yes yes i did yeah with like no warm-up you just went and did it and i was like oh i was like there you go i got that one locked in yeah that's when it's locked into the muscle memory right on all right everybody thank you all so much for being members i just want to shout out um thursday is expected to be a wild show uh lauren chen benny johnson and alx all on the show at the same time i guess sure and then friday's culture war is gonna be we have four people. We've got Pearl Davis and Lauren Chen
Starting point is 00:54:05 as well as many others, so it's going to be a fun week. Thanks for hanging out. We'll see you all tomorrow.

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