Timcast IRL - Russia Declares For Iran In WAR Against U.S. WW3 Fears Escalate w/ Jesse on Fire

Episode Date: September 2, 2026

On this episode Tim & the crew are joined by Jesse On Fire to discuss Judge ruling Tyler Robinson may face the death penalty in Charlie Kirk case Lindsay Clancy supporters being absolutely nuts Conser...vative influencers exposed taking a free trip to Poland Florida banning flock cameras from highways Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere) | https://www.shoutout.fans/timpool Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) | https://allthatremains.komi.io/ Ian @IanCrossland (everywhere) Producer: Carter @carterbanks (X) |  @trashhouserecords  (YT) Guest:  Jesse ON FIRE ‪@RealJesseONFIRE‬ (everywhere)

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Starting point is 00:00:02 We got some big news tonight. Vladimir Putin has pledged support to Iran in their war against the United States. There's a new report that they've been helping manufacture hypersonic missiles for the country, but we've known for a minute that they were arming the Iranians against the United States. We've also seen this with China. When a strange cargo flight came into Iran last year, it looks like China was supplying the Iranians with materials they could use to make missiles to use against the United States. of course, more rhetoric about World War III is emerging, and it's a slow burn, isn't it? It's gradually, then suddenly, they say. So maybe we're already in it.
Starting point is 00:00:42 A bunch of news outlets have already claimed we may be in World War III, but they've been saying that for over a year, so who knows. I guess we'll find out when the nuke start flying through the air, but we'll talk about that. But we did just get breaking news just for going live. The judge in the Robinson hearing has ruled he must stand trial for capital. murder in the Charlie Kirk assassination, and he is eligible for the death penalty. So we are going to cover that. We got a bunch of other big fun stories throughout the day, of course, Flock cameras banned on highways in Florida.
Starting point is 00:01:14 The debate over Flock cameras with seemingly and strangely many figures in the right now coming out in defense of Flock with, I'm going to just, maybe I shouldn't be so biased right off the rip, but terrible arguments that seem to be fake. I'll just put it like that because, you know, the arguments against Flock cameras are pretty straightforward. So we got that talk about more. Joining us tonight to talk about this and everything else is Jesse on fire. Thank you for having me, good sir.
Starting point is 00:01:39 Who are you? What do you do? Oh, I'm Jesse on fire. Well, Jesse Murrell, host of the Jesse on Fire show. I do what most of us do. I talk about this kind of stuff. I do a couple videos a day covering the Charlie Kirk case. I've been covering all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:01:54 Flock, I'm excited to talk about because I learned some new stuff yesterday. And if we get a chance to talk about that AI breaking out, I would love to talk about it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. the swarm that attacked hugging phase. I mean, there's more than just that, too. Yeah, that is one of the craziest. Ian and I were talking about that earlier. It's just like, I just don't think people understand what that actually,
Starting point is 00:02:10 like the implications of that story, you know. But it's not even the first time there's been a breakout. No, yeah. It's just this one was criminal. Yeah. It's just more proof that they have their own mind and sometimes their objectives may run up against humans and they're just going to ignore the ethics. What people don't understand is they think that AI right now
Starting point is 00:02:31 is a program. And I've only learned a lot of this stuff recently. It's not a program. It is, we are tuning into something, a frequency. The people developing the AI don't know exactly how the, quote unquote, digital neurons fire it and how they create these results. All they know is it's creating results they like, so they keep amplifying it. So we may be building something that could destroy us.
Starting point is 00:02:56 But we'll talk about that and more. Of course, the boys are hanging out. Yes, yes. I got a bunch of password resets today. Some, maybe it was an AI. It was all over X, right? That happened to me too. Dude, I get this every night.
Starting point is 00:03:07 Like, somebody tries to steal my Gmail account and they're like, was this you? I'm like, no. And they're like, okay, well, they didn't use your passwords. This was all, this was a bunch of people. X today, everybody was, like, someone was trying to like just mass attack or something. It may be China because we just saw that bot network just exposed. And now you're getting, what, hundreds of people saying the people are trying to hack them? That does not seem like an accident.
Starting point is 00:03:29 Google Maps reract. outing me yesterday. I don't know. Yeah, sometimes it'll turn you around. It's been turning me around. Sometimes the magnets will go off and it will only show me. You've been starting graphene again, Ian? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:03:38 I think I'm just tapping into what's what they're laying down, man. It might be an AI. Happen into it. No, actually, I have been storing graphene. It comes when you burn a fire, the part of the smoke, there's graphene and the smoke. And I've been lighting a lot of fire. You should definitely have too fast. If you have X money, you should have two-factor authorization on your X account.
Starting point is 00:03:56 And it's not a bad idea to have like a good password. like if your password is password or like you know HJKL semicolon you should probably I don't think they let you do that anymore thank God it's actually getting really annoying it's like you try to log in it's like if your password's wrong and you try to get us and work and then you are like okay forgot my password then you type in your past the same password thinking I'll just make it the one I know
Starting point is 00:04:19 and then it goes you can't use the same password and you're like but that one wasn't working I'm too many attempts too many I use a password I use a password manager it's worth it like get some weird crazy password that nobody's going to guess especially if you got X money like most people that have X money sometimes it doesn't record it though
Starting point is 00:04:36 like I say yes and then when I go to it I'm like I know I used it and I have to reset it did you guys also see there's a conspiracy theory that the flood was not a Yokel Hopps it was a strike on a dam intentionally done as an attack in the region it's a conspiracy theory I'm not saying there's any evidence
Starting point is 00:04:54 but a bunch of people are talking about because now this is true, China has been deleting a bunch of videos and censoring information on the floods. How very Chinese. And so when the flood first happened, they were like, oh, it's a yokel hops, right? The glacier cracks and then it caused a massive flood, which happens. It's a word for it. A bunch of accounts started posting. Actually, this was an attack on China or by China or something that was intentionally done by blowing up a dam, which caused this huge flood.
Starting point is 00:05:21 And then I saw these videos all over Instagram. Then, of course, you see this report that's coming out today where it's like China's begun to censor information related to the flood. So who knows? We'll talk about that. We got the boys. But before we do, we got a sponsor. It is keat.io.
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Starting point is 00:06:31 the Discord community at Timcast.com. When the lockdowns happened, when we were isolated, community kept us going. Make friends. Be a part of something bigger. As a member, you're supporting the show and the work that we do here, but you're also helping make the community exist. You, each and every one of you are the snowflake that makes up the avalanche. So be that change at Timcast.com. Let's start with this. This news actually just broke. And so normally, you know, we directly lead with it because this is particularly relevant right now. We've got this from the post millennial. Judge rules Tyler Robinson must stand trial for capital murder in Charlie Kirk's assassination eligible for the death penalty. Quote, viewed in the light, most favorable to the
Starting point is 00:07:16 prosecution, this evidence is sufficient at this stage to support a reasonable belief that defendant is the individual who shot and killed Charlie Kirk. Accordingly, the state has demonstrated probable cause as to the identity and homicide elements of count one of count one is aggravated murder and brains within a death penalty if convicted. As to count two, felony discharge of firearm causing serious bodily injury, graph rule that probable cause had been established. Utah prosecutors ask that Robinson be tried for count one aggravated murder, a capital
Starting point is 00:07:47 offense together with the state's victim targeting notice count two, felony discharge of a firearm causing serious bodily injury, the first-degree felony, counts three and four obstruction of justice, second-degree felonies, counts five and six, tampering with a witness, third-degree felonies, and count seven, violent offense committed in the presence of a child, Graff said. Graff read out the events of September 10th, 2025 on the Utah Valley University campus where Kirk was speaking with students. He tracked through the movements of Robinson on campus, which had been well documented. In addition to the timeline, Graff walked through the electronic communications between Robinson and Lancy Twigs, Lance Twigs, his roommate and boyfriend.
Starting point is 00:08:22 Prosecutor Ryan McBride delivered the closing arguments for the state, Your Honor. On September 10th of 2025, the defendant, this man, Tyler Robinson, shot and killed Charlie Kirk because he disagreed with him and he did it by firing a high-powered rifle into a crowd of over 3,000 people, which created a great risk of death. There's many, many more quotes, but I think we got the picture here. One of the other big stories was that the defense argued that Charlie Kirk was spreading hate. against the LGBTQ community, et cetera. So I'm not going to say this is surprising to anybody. It's the latest development.
Starting point is 00:08:54 But big news that it will be going to trial, and we knew it was going to. We knew that it was going to be the way it went. Whatever you think, conspiracy otherwise, I think everybody agreed this is the track that we're going to be on. I thought it was. You've been studying it more than anybody, I think. Yeah, I mean, there's, of course, there's enough for a trial.
Starting point is 00:09:12 And what exactly the defense say about Charlie spreading hate? Like, were they? I watched the, there's a short video. Let me see if I can, I can pull it. I'll pull it up. Like our defense is, everybody was blown up by next. I'll go you. I mean, that's one of the things that infuriates still me more than anything is when people
Starting point is 00:09:28 misrepresent things that he said. Like when AOC, like, you know, eight days after he got shot, went in front of Congress when they were trying to make the resolution that they were all going to condemn what happened. And then she missed, she acted as though Charlie's issue with the Civil Rights Act was that black people were given the This is what they do. Insane. And I've talked to, I've talked to so many libs where they're like Charlie said he was scared of black pilots.
Starting point is 00:09:53 Absurd. I said, no, you're lying. Perk spoke hatefully of certain groups of people. Not true. He spoke hatefully of people who don't have traditional norm conforming gender identities. He spoke hatefully of people who are not strictly heterosexual. He spoke hatefully of people who are not strictly heterosexual. He spoke hatefully of people who.
Starting point is 00:10:16 have sexual relationships out of marriage. And yes, it is true that the evidence from Mr. Twiggs is that he identified in a non-gender conforming way to his friends and that he was in a romantic relationship with Mr. Robinson. But that doesn't mean that those personal choices by Mr. Twigs and by Mr. Robinson equate with the hate that it at least Mr. Robinson says he had toward Mr. Kirk. So we don't know what that is. We don't know there's a gap between what it is that Mr. Kirk said and stood for the phrase
Starting point is 00:11:02 in the statute is political expression and what it is that Mr. Robinson felt about him. And it's a significant gap because what it allows the state to do is to make it up. Oh, it must be about this relationship. It must be. It can't be about foreign policy. It can't be about immigration. It can't be about taxation or economics. It must be about this because look at these two young people and the way they live. Right. Is he is he talking like he's just saying Tyler shot?
Starting point is 00:11:36 That's his defense attorney. Because that sounds like he's like yeah, Tyler shot him, but we don't know why. Well, that's been their whole thing the whole time. Like, but he shouldn't get the death penalty. That's been effectively the argument. They've not argued, this was misconstrued a bit in there, in their initial filing saying that people were saying that they're admitting to killing Charlie, but it doesn't want the death penalty because he shot one guy and killed one guy. They argued if the evidence presented is true, it does not rise to a death penalty. They weren't saying.
Starting point is 00:12:04 Yeah. But so, but I am confused. I mean. That verbi had sounded like. Yeah, what was that? They're not going to be able to, yeah, he never did it. it's the wrong guy. That's the only time I've ever heard it where that sounded very much like he,
Starting point is 00:12:19 I'm like, that's a defense attorney. Why? And also, why are you trying to establish motive if you are defending the guy who's accused of the client? You guys have seen that South Fork episode, the Chewbacca defense. I'm also, yeah, the Chewbuck. That's what that reminds me of. But I'm curious because it's from what we know right now, the trial is going to be a farce.
Starting point is 00:12:38 And I want, I want you all to listen to what I'm about to say, because I don't want it to be taken one way or the other by those who think it's going to go, I'm saying, if the defense is basically like, yeah, he did it, why are we having a trial? To establish motive, it sounds like this. This is pointless. Because I don't personally think it matters why. I mean, to a point, it matters why, if it's self-defense, for instance. But it's more about what?
Starting point is 00:13:01 It's like a mitigating factor, but that's after you're convicted. So like, I'm looking at what he did. It's not about why he did what he did. It's probably because he is up for the death penalty. Yeah. So they have to find out if it was, you know, they have to find out what aggravating factors. They have to find out, you know, if he is a candidate for the death penalty because it's a possible punishment. I suppose that makes sense. The trial is going to so the jury can say whether he goes to prison for life or dies.
Starting point is 00:13:29 And if the differentiator for aggravated murder is the potential that he could have shot and killed other people. I don't even understand how that, if that, I haven't read it like word for word, but if that is what differentiates, I don't even know how you would argue. you against it. I don't know what Utah law is. And the judge agreed. Yeah. When when when. Yeah. Yeah. It's like we're defending him by admitting he did it. Nothing in his case makes sense. The fact that Lance Twiggs, the roommate, who is absolutely critical and core to every single piece of physical evidence was given immediately immediate immunity is where I'm like, I've always had my eye on that guy because I'm like he has he has access to his discord, has access to his cell phone. He could have, the, the text messages were written at 11.30 p.m.
Starting point is 00:14:15 Tyler wakes up at six in the morning every single morning and then gets up and goes. He had access to the devices that's more likely that Tyler probably would have been asleep at 1130. So maybe Lance could have had that. It's just like that's weird. There's also a question that's not been answered. Maybe you can shed some light on this. The meeting at Robinson's home, some couple weeks before, and the foreknowledge that we saw from people posting on social media that's seems to have just fallen off of this case without being addressed.
Starting point is 00:14:43 Yeah, that came up on the green room so much. Maybe the FBI's got data. They don't want anyone to know about. But if it's going to trial, is it like? No, yeah. Well, so like early on, that's where I focused 100% of my energy when I was first looking at the case was all on what other leftists are involved. You have 20 people who posted advanced knowledge.
Starting point is 00:15:02 Why are the, and then I'm like, okay, the FBI is probably setting up on these guys, waiting for them to talk so that they could. And that now, but that's definitely not what's happening now. I don't believe that for a second. Yeah. Well, I was wishful thinking at the time, but. But this is what, you know, as with every single conspiracy and not to isolate this one because it's contentious, I'll use 9-11. Back when, like in the mid-2000s, I was very much on board with the investigate 9-11 line.
Starting point is 00:15:28 And I would argue against anybody when they'd be like, so you think Bush-day, like, absolutely not. I think that the government is not going to come out and tell you how our security is bypassed to such a degree that Pentagon was bombed in our couple of buildings. got knocked down. But I think it's fair to say for a war now in the Middle East and for the American people that we do get accurate information pertaining to questions around 9-11. So I'm not suggesting I know exactly what happened, just that I think it's fairly obvious the government's not telling us the full picture. For sure. The problem is there were a bunch of people marching around saying Bush did it or that it was an inside job. And I'm like, you're, you've already asserted a conclusion when, you know, architects and engineers were simply asking the question that didn't line up
Starting point is 00:16:09 with what they knew in architecture and engineering. So with this, the issue I take with the Israel did it people is that they've drawn a conclusion before we've actually been able to figure out who the players are, what makes sense, what doesn't make sense, because it could be somebody else. It could be, there could be something. I'm going to say it like this. I don't, I don't firmly believe the full story. I think Andrew Wilson said 70%.
Starting point is 00:16:34 I go slightly less than that. 60% perhaps. there's just not evidence of anything else. There's an absence of evidence, and there's evidence that led to absence, such as these other individuals that were on social media being like, this thing's going to happen tomorrow,
Starting point is 00:16:49 and then poof, no one talks about it ever again. Very bizarre. So for someone in that immediate, he'll be like, Israel, I'm like, stop, stop, okay? Maybe sure, but we're not there yet. So right now, they're steam rolling through this trial, and it sounds like defense is just like, yes. It's very, like, the defenses,
Starting point is 00:17:08 strategy has been very fishy. It seems like this, to me, appears very, like, kind of, like, showy. You know what I mean? Where they want to just get this done, move along, and you're like, why? And I never looked at Israel seriously because, to me, I'm like a nation state that no, it just doesn't seem like this would be a rational place to do it. I feel like it's, they establish motive. But I was, anyway.
Starting point is 00:17:38 bottom line is as it relates to this case I've incredibly unique perspective that is I don't want to suck up you know do you think Robinson did it no I mean I think it's either a group of leftists did it or another option that I haven't I don't know if I want to talk about on the platform but I definitely I've never entertained that Israel was behind this and I also certainly never entertained the TPSA murdered Robinson he asked if you thought Robinson did it oh oh uh If leftists did it, then I think it is, if leftist did it, then I think his involvement is. Oh, I thought he answered. Sure. Yeah. Oh. I would say that the preponderance of evidence and what's presented towards us lends itself to a Robinson assassination.
Starting point is 00:18:22 And I think the next most likely scenario is that there's accomplices and others involved that for some reason are not being brought to light. And then the question, to quote to the great Alex Jones, Key Bono, which is whenever you're looking at a major high profile incident, war, whatever, the question is, who's been. benefiting from it. And so in the question of the assassination of Charlie Kirk, who benefited? Well, the deep state, the establishment, the intelligence agencies. I wouldn't argue that Israel did. There's a bunch of weird arguments about Charlie was going to argue against Israel, but that's not motivation to end his life. That's motivation to give him money. I thought that when Netanyahu came out, either the same day it happened or the next day and said, we, you know, Israelis, we feel for Charlie Kirk, he was a hero. He came out and talked about it, which at first people were like, oh, he must be
Starting point is 00:19:06 covering up. I bet they were involved and it's like, no, actually, I think if the Israelis did it, they wouldn't have said anything. They would have been radio silent after. I don't know how you get saying. This is all conjecture, but I don't, I think he, Netanyahu stepped on his own foot and should have kept his mouth shut to keep himself out of the house that day. I feel like it's the, so there was this video I got recommended on the carousel and Instagram. This young woman saying that she was finally moving out of the United States of Israel and she's got like 10,000 likes and a bunch of comments. And then she's just like, I'm done. I'm going to Mexico. I'm getting out of this place. And I'm like, what is this? Like, this is weird. So I go to her profile,
Starting point is 00:19:42 and she's just a want to be influencer. She has no followers. She has a bunch of content that you can tell. She's experimenting with trying to do content, shaking her ass and things like this. Some of it wasn't working, doing skits. Didn't work. And then she does the Israel post. And all of a sudden, it's being recommended to people. So I look at stuff like that and I'm like, it's just the reason why the Israel narrative pops up is algorithmic. There's a million conspiracies you could have, right? One could argue that some Islamic countries stood to benefit the most because Charlie Kirk was a major proponent of Israel. Then some might argue, oh, but he was turning on Israel, but then Israel would offer him. There's just not enough there. Now, if you look at the deep state,
Starting point is 00:20:19 if you look at U.S. intelligence agencies, Charlie Kirk was on track to be president of the United States. He was a guy from Chicago seemingly not part of the establishment club college dropout, not a skull, you know what I mean? Not part of this elite group. And here he is whispering in the ear of the president rallying students to vote in a direction outside of the uniparty machine. So Trump wins, right? Whatever they had to do to stop Trump didn't work in 24. And credit goes to Presler and Charlie Kirk with Turning Point USA. So when I ask the question, who benefits? It's establishment political operatives. I agree with that. Basically, I mean, I'm not going to even be able to do this show without just saying it out loud. So basically where I'm at is like, I was all in leftists.
Starting point is 00:21:01 I never, to the point I made earlier, I never considered for a second that TPSA would have been involved in murdering Charlie ever. And thus, if there was any indication that they were involved with anything, whether video otherwise, then I look at it and I go, well, if that's, if they were involved, then it's not a murder. You know, like that's the, what do you mean? Then if, you know, if there's, if TPSA was in any way involved in what happened on 9-10, that means it's not a murder.
Starting point is 00:21:25 Like it has to be something else. he's in Witsack or something or some other much larger, grander thing where like it's something that it's not, like it's not what it appears to be. So you think if they were involved at all, it would be to fake his death to get him out of the public eye? Correct. If they're involved.
Starting point is 00:21:39 Which is highly unlikely. Sure. But if they were involved, because I, no one's going to convince me that like Andrew Colvitt and Mikey McCoy conspired to murder Charlie Kirk. I'm not. It's just,
Starting point is 00:21:48 I got to be honest and I say this, not to be mean to Colvitt, but I, and I know Colbert's going to get mad that I'm going to say this. Colvett doesn't have. the wherewithal to scheme a massive conspiracy to assassinate a high, like, he's just not that guy. You know what I mean? And I want to make sure I'm clear in how I say this. Isn't that a compliment though? Well, my point is, in essence, I'm saying he doesn't have the capability to carry a grand
Starting point is 00:22:12 conspiracy. He's not smart enough to do it. Okay. And I know it might be, it might seem disrespectful to Colvette to say that he's not smart enough to be an assassin, but it's true. And it's a backhanded compliment. I'll admit that. It's a backhanded compliment. I'm not saying he's a dumb guy. Just like the amount of organizational capability to pull something like this off is high intelligence statecraft. Yeah, and you don't know. For sure. Swiggs would turn him in if he was involved with this somehow. Of Colvitt was, of course Twigs would be turning on turning point if they were involved.
Starting point is 00:22:41 And he would know all about it. Well, but you got to understand MK Ultra, right? That's the control. But you also got to understand too. Let me tell you some more conspiracy stuff. Let me show a clarification. I am not suggesting this was high-level state craft. I'm saying, should it have been a conspiracy,
Starting point is 00:22:58 it would have required high-level state craft the likes of which Colbett doesn't have the capability to carry out. I want to make one more point conspiracy-wise is, I've talked about this on the show before. 4chan a long time ago, this is like 15 years ago, uncovered a Facebook profile of a woman who was posting just incessant ramblings. And it was like you'd pull up her page. And again, this is like 16 years ago. There would be like just 400 words and it would be like, the dog ran through the fence,
Starting point is 00:23:24 the fence toppled over and fell off the cliff by the wayside of the cliff. And then there was an oatmeal spoon that was spinning, tumbling down in the sky as the stars shimmered. And you're like, this seems to make absolutely no sense. And a few theories emerged, one was that the whole thing was code and that this is what spies will do, a dead drop, right? Putting information somewhere, they know only someone knows where to look, right? So if you're a spy working in a foreign country and you want to leave information for another one of your spy buddies, you can't just hand a file to somebody. So you go online when someone's looking, use a VP. end, you type up encrypted messages, post it to a random profile that no one knows exists,
Starting point is 00:23:59 other person can read it, and then decrypt it. There's some extraction way to... However, one of the theories was that this woman, because apparently they looked into her and she had worked for some government agencies, and one of the theories, and again, just, it could be nonsense, was that she was a burned spy who had been dosed with high, levels of LSD or something to fry her brain, so she could no longer communicate effectively. And so she was typing away desperately trying to tell people what was going on, but her brain was fried by doses of hallucingenics. Anyway, the point is one of the conspiracy theories would be when you MK Ultra somebody, lock them in a room for two weeks, scream in their face, blast loud noises and brainwash them.
Starting point is 00:24:41 You get them to do something. First, you get a vulnerable person, someone who's not particularly of strong will. Brainwash them, MK Ultra style. Then once they do the deed, you hallucinogenic them. and then they're not going to be able to write in anybody. They never saw any faces, their brains fried, and they're going to be saying stupid things that make no sense. And they say this person's a kook,
Starting point is 00:25:01 and then people don't look into him further than that. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Like there's questions about that crooks dude, right? Yeah. About how like no motive, how to get on the roof? Like what happened with that assassination with Trump? Like, they're not digging into it.
Starting point is 00:25:14 What's this guy's background? What about that guy Vince or Vance Bolter in Minnesota who whacked out the state senators and he had worked as the community liaison on the task force for, for, for, yeah, the guy that and he had, and he had no kings, like, there were pieces of paper with no kings written on it in his, in his car. No, I'll tell you one of my favorite conspiracies. We don't really explore these things. Remember when, uh, that woman got, there was a woman murdered in D.C., who was like an older lady with red hair walking her dog, and she looked just like the wife of Ilhan Omar's, uh, sidepiece.
Starting point is 00:25:50 Yeah. The new guy. Yeah, new guy. And so the conspiracy theory was this Eritrean guy randomly stabbed him and ran off for no reason. And they were like, the conspiracy theory was that this guy was hired to take out this dude's wife in this neighborhood, saw this woman who looked just like his wife in that neighborhood randomly kills her. Yeah, I'm not saying it's true. You know, just the internet. We also, that dude that jumped up and was like, yeah, after Charlie got shot and turned around.
Starting point is 00:26:18 Yeah, we were talking about that. And then he was posting cryptic stuff on. Twitter, this is like a deep conspiracy-oriented thing that I don't even know it was worth bringing up on this show. It's too long of a story. I just, dude, this, it seems like very plainly a kid got radicalized and then killed Charlie open and shut and that people are making millions off of talking it into the ground. Or it feels like there can't actually have an investigation into the accomplices in the story surrounding it because YouTube is algorithmically promoting the most psychotic of conspiracy theories
Starting point is 00:26:50 Instead, despite some of these channels breaking obvious rules, YouTube amplifies what YouTube has previously said it would suppress. YouTube stated outright like 10 years ago, conspiracy-related content would be reduced in the algorithm, visibility reduced. They started putting tags on channels, Wikipedia entries. But this is the one conspiracy theory they want on the front page all day, every day. and I have to ask once again, why are they allowing the rules to be broken in this one case?
Starting point is 00:27:23 I don't know, like, I don't know which, like I don't know if rules, I wouldn't be able to point to rules being broke, but like a lot of, like there's really crazy stuff, but then there's a lot of stuff where
Starting point is 00:27:33 if you look at it, it's like, okay, I think this conclusion is incorrect. However, that is a very legitimate, suspicious thing that you are bringing up and then showing. it's just it's you know at a certain point the logic for me it's like okay well that I think indicates
Starting point is 00:27:52 something else yeah I I go yeah no no sorry I was just going to say like that's that's where I started entertaining other things because I'm like okay that's very very bizarre can't explain that behavior can't explain that this is impossible as a conclusion so what else could I be looking at you know you know you know what I would do if I was part of a government deep state secret thing to you know take somebody out you don't want to just go and take somebody out, right? There's a reason why assassinations have fallen by the wayside. It's because you make a martyr of a person. I'm talking about the United States. Okay. Right? So we saw like Martin Luther King Jr. We saw Malcolm X, JFK, of course, but you make martyrs of people. And that's,
Starting point is 00:28:31 that can be a problem if their ideology becomes cemented permanently. So they've, they've shifted towards character assassination, which is what we saw with Julian Assange, make up a fake story accusing him of rape, which never happened, lock him up. And then no matter what happens, the media just keeps lying about him over and over again. So when you talk to a regular person, they say, you know, he raped somebody, which he never did, was never an accusation against him. You know the true story of what happened there, right? Like with Assange? With Assange, like what they were saying was the rape story was. Well, it was a condom broke and the woman wanted to get a STD. Yep, that's it. And so they went to the police and said, can we compel an SDD test? Yep, that's right.
Starting point is 00:29:05 Yeah, that was it. That was it. So totally consensual, but there was a whoopsie. And then they said, we want to get tested. Can we make him get tested? And they said, that sounds like right. Yep. Two girls had the same story about the broken. broken condom, they got mad, that he wouldn't come take the STD test, and that's exactly what happened. That was it. And so character assassination is one way they go about doing it. However, one of the other tactics that any good intelligence operation is going to do is
Starting point is 00:29:27 controlled opposition, which is you have your reaction preset. Obviously, you are going to, like, this is going to create martyrdom and it's going to create a massive investigation. How do we control the outcome afterwards? You need to determine what the narrative is going to be, and then you need to ask. amplify that narrative. So what do we get? Like clockwork. After Charlie dies, a specific narrative emerges on YouTube on the front page for new users that breaks their rules. I'm not saying necessarily the community guidelines. I'm saying YouTube has rules on promotion and
Starting point is 00:30:03 recommendation based on conspiracy specifically. And you've got numerous channels that completely defy those rules that they set. So the question I just have is, why? Now again, if it were me and I was working in some secret CD intelligence agency, I'd be like, then we want to have people in media. Perhaps what we can do is, is there someone we can find with a big following that we can bring into the fold, convince them to join us and create some like connection? How about we have them marry a lord or something like that? And then we'll get them lawyers that work in the federal building with our agents. How does that sound? See, I, the everything you described, I thought you were talking about, I thought you were talking about the Charlie Hoax theory because it was like, because that's literally, you hit all of those points where if the whole, if the whole thing was done to intentionally take Charlie off the map, at least publicly, Erica goes in his place, she's running TPSA, he's actually running it in the backdrop. They create a martyr out of him. They have the leftist react exactly as you knew they were going to react, which is, you know, party in the streets, which makes anyone with common sense.
Starting point is 00:31:10 heart and a soul like whatever side they're on i'm done with it gets everybody focused in the right direction cash in them immediately deem antifa as left-wing terror groups which enabled them to target the funding of those groups and if you guys noticed not a lot of riots this summer dude none and because after USAID gets goes belly up too and because the funders they can go after them criminally now which if the left gets back in power they will immediately but they're not they're not like the Charlie Kirk thing is not it's not being associated with Antifa. It's just like,
Starting point is 00:31:43 they're not even calling this guy a radical leftist. They're saying he's like left aligned LGBTQ. Like they're going very light with it. Did you see Lance's, did you watch Lance's testimony? Lance,
Starting point is 00:31:52 yes, but he's like, they're like, did you ever hear Tyler talk about like Charlie Kirk? He's like, no, not really. You're like, but he like shot him with a, like you got on a roof
Starting point is 00:32:03 and then murdered him. Like that's, I don't know, it just seems very bizarre. The fact that you're not saying, it's like, if it's a conspiracy, to like frame him you would have him say that he hates him if it's not that but why is he saying
Starting point is 00:32:16 that he shot it just doesn't i can't make it make sense i can't like he's just bizarre he has probably he hirce lie under oath can he still get hit with he has immunity for anything that he says in relation to the story but he's not immune if he in fact like was involved in the crime i think is how yeah i think i think he can he has immunity for what he said in that interview but anything outside or after that that he's not immune from. Here's something crazy to think about as it relates to like the the narrative that the feds are kind of, you know, putting out as the real.
Starting point is 00:32:49 That has not changed since September, like 13th. And you have an entire army of people who have spent 80 hours a week every week for a year looking into it. And so it's like the idea that there's not a very, you know, at least at the very least a much more bolstered version of what happened in addition to in my, opinion a completely different thing that happened. Like, it can't just be what was what was available three days later and there's no and they didn't get anything wrong, right?
Starting point is 00:33:19 Well, what I would, what I would add to that though, the challenge is, of course, the Lindsay Clancy trial. Have you all been reading what these women are writing? No. No. I'm, I, it's, it's psycho babble. What are they saying? That, um, Lindsay Clancy's husband, drugged her, uh, murdered his children, slitteress,
Starting point is 00:33:38 and threw her out the window, got in his car. and drove off, then came back and told her she did it. That's what they believe happened. And you know what the funny thing is? All of these posts I see from them, they are indistinguishable from the rhetoric style and the language we see in the Israel did it narratives about Charlie Kirk. This is, are they the same? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:34:06 I don't know if they're same. Yeah, but the. Oh, there's an absolute overall. lap. I would say this. Not that Candace has been going off completely on, but with her statement of, of course, she's not guilty, blah, blah, blah. And like, she, oh, I didn't even know she talked about the case. Yeah, she has a video where she says, of course, Lindsay Clancy's not guilty. Big Pharma has been terrorizing people, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I agree with her. I don't disagree on the Big Farmer. Right. I think we shouldn't get blinded. A lot of
Starting point is 00:34:31 conservatives are like, Lindsay Clancy is not a victim, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, hold on, hold on. She's a victim of Big Pharma and a murderer of children. There's two distinct things. Big Pharma is bad, you know. And also, like, with antidepressants, it's a known, it's a known side effect
Starting point is 00:34:46 that it causes, in rare cases, like, you know, I don't think it's a rare case. Yeah, the homicidal stuff, yeah. I know,
Starting point is 00:34:53 I know, probably a hand, maybe three or four people who have taken various kind of antidepressants, and they said it made them angry and suicidal. I have a friend
Starting point is 00:35:01 who's like a college-educated normal guy who got on antidepressants and he robbed six banks. Oh, and he ended up, he ended up, he ended up only getting four or five years because he used a pellet gun. He was never going to kill anyone.
Starting point is 00:35:13 And then so when he went to court, that's, that's, he's like, he was on, he proved he had gone to a psychiatrist. He was on these drugs and he had a psychotic break and went and did that. And, uh, yeah, I mean, the drugs thing, but also the thing that I agree on as it relates to like, you know, this guy, this guy's problem in this case for me is that it's not in dispute that she had desperately attempted to get help in terms of her psychiatric state. She had checked herself into a psych ward multiple times. And he left her alone with his kids when he knew she was in that level of psychosis. And he was hanging out in New York with his
Starting point is 00:35:48 mistress that looks exactly like her. Have you seen those pictures? No, let's pull out a little She is. She's her identical twin. It's bizarre. So at the very least, like, you know, like if I, I would, I would never do that. I would never leave my kids alone with. anyone who is in that, you know, in that scene. I mean, look, if that, if that, if I were in his situation, I would never leave my is this, ever again. Is this, sir? Had kids afterwards.
Starting point is 00:36:14 Yeah, if you do a side by side, just do, uh, she have like a black eye or something? Honestly, I don't even know which one that is. I think, but, uh, Lindsay Clancy and dude, uh, new, new wife. It's, it's, it is uncanny. Is this, uh, is this it? Yep. Well, he's got a type, you know. How crazy is that, though?
Starting point is 00:36:36 Like, he's leaving his, like, the one who's in Christ with the kids and going to New York for the same thing except just like no kids, no bills. So, so real good. The update here is that the jury is deadlocked. They were deadlocked today. The judge ordered them to go back and continue deliberating. They are still deadlocked and requested to be excused for the day. So we still have a verdict, but it's very obvious at this point. I think it's going to be a hung jury in the Lindsay Clancy case.
Starting point is 00:37:01 I understand that. Because if you have. someone in captivity, not that Clancy was in captivity, but if you, if you, M.K. Ultra somebody to go do a crime. Who's, who's guilty? It's a big assumption, though. I know. But if you were to put someone on psychiatricks, heavy medicines that you know is going to make them psychotic or, okay, maybe there's, I'm not saying the industry had intent to do this. If intent has, has, M.K. Ultras got intent. If you kidnapped Phil and tied him up and brainwashed him into committing a crime, you have committed a crime.
Starting point is 00:37:33 Exactly. However, the purpose of the brainwashing is that it's very difficult to trace it back to you. And if I gave Phil drugs and then Phil legally, and he legally took the drugs and then it made him crazy. Well, that's a different question. Or if the doctor gave you drugs and they made you crazy and then you did a crime out of your mind insanity, like, is the doctor liable? Is the industry that built the drug that did the test that knew it made people suicidal? You know, hold on. I got a question. How can we've never seen, like, a magician murderer? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:38:06 They always get away. Because they always disappear. What I mean is imagine, like, a murder happens, but then, like, some weird, like, the magician floats away. Like, imagine there's, like, a guy walking in. He's like, I can't control it. The invisible vampires have me. And then he, like, shoots a guy, and then floats away, screaming, help me.
Starting point is 00:38:22 All the witnesses are like, he was screaming. Something was controlling his body, invisible vampires. And then he got flown away. But it was all just, like, an illusion. They're going to lock up all the witnesses. Right. They're going to be like, you're all nuts. It didn't happen.
Starting point is 00:38:32 Like if even more realistic, a commander in the military orders as dudes to go kill people and then later they find out, hey, that's a war crime. You don't always go after the troops that were for the order. You go after the commander that issued the order? No, no, no, no. Like in Vietnam, the Miley massacre. Let me tell you, the UCMJ is very clear, you are not obligated to follow illegal order. But are you from him with a Miley massacre?
Starting point is 00:38:58 I am. They murdered the guy, the lieutenant ordered his platoon to go. take out a village of women and children, they did it. And then he was the only guy that got busted for it. The point that I'm making, though, is if you listen to, if you follow orders that you know are illegal, if you're commanded to go murder someone, right? Someone that's not a non-combatant or something,
Starting point is 00:39:18 the person that commits the murder is responsible because you are not obligated to follow illegal orders. Tough position to be in in that particular example. Yeah, it's right. Hey, all of you murderers with guns, I'm not doing the thing. you know a major says hey private go you know and then you're like uh you know that's what the myline massacre was yeah it was weird was a lot worse than that's one of those horrifying stories oh it i mean but just because just because just because just because you just because you just because you have
Starting point is 00:39:47 just because you have one example doesn't change the fact that there's precedent oh totally look at the that's the most extreme example ever and the they had been conditioned for years yeah yeah and also the blown apart for weeks leading up to it obviously Nazis did not escape punishment. A lot of them did. A lot of them did. A lot of the soldiers. By saying I was just following orders. Well, they just hit the leadership. Like,
Starting point is 00:40:11 Herman Goring got it. You know, at the Nuremberg trial, like, too many of them but at some point down, up the chain of like order, there's someone's poisoning these people to poison these people to do this thing. And it's like, who's the villain? Who's the one that should be in prison? The one that put the fluoride in our water.
Starting point is 00:40:30 And we got We got well water here. Actually, this pool water, artisan water. Drinking a lot of that. The point that I'm making in... I'm sure there's some natural fluoride, but nothing added. There is precedent for all of the stuff that you're talking about,
Starting point is 00:40:43 and just because you have an anecdote where the precedent wasn't followed, doesn't change the fact that there are laws and there is precedent for these types of things. The massacre in particular, the Miley Mastika, I'm not familiar with it, but it doesn't change the fact that you are not obligate, According to the Uniform Code of Military Justice, you are not required to follow illegal orders. You're actually required not to follow. You're required to not follow them.
Starting point is 00:41:07 You're required to not follow them. But when you're in the jungle with 30 other dudes with machine guns and they all tell you to do something, what are you going to do? Say no. And get shot? Sure. Okay. That's not how it works, dude.
Starting point is 00:41:18 That is. It is for me. You're adding, you're jumping to conclusions. That's what they were. Just because you say, I'm not going to do it, doesn't mean they're going to get. get you're going to get shot he'll probably say hey that you go if he won't do it you go do it they're not going to just murder you for not following the orders now you may get put in the brig
Starting point is 00:41:37 you may get roughed up but that doesn't mean the don't hold on hold on hold i i got a question i got a question if you were surrounded by guys with guns and they told you to shoot a bunch of people or else they'd shoot you you would shoot the people if these guys with guns were my like military brothers and I was given an order to go do something horrific and they're all like let's go and they're all ready
Starting point is 00:42:01 to go do it I'd go do it and then I would suffer the consequences I wouldn't stand up and be like oh kill me first I wouldn't do that what would you do it yeah yeah I would you'd be the one guy
Starting point is 00:42:13 sure somehow that was able after seeing your able to get eviscerated to somehow be like no it's not moral to do this if he'll put a gun to my head and said shoot Ian I'd say no
Starting point is 00:42:23 you understand the psychology of these These guys, they were broken. They weren't sitting in a cool. That's not the question being asked. When you break people's minds. And whether you have the willpower to say, I won't commit evil because you threaten my life. Just thought of MK Ultra.
Starting point is 00:42:39 These willpower, their willpowers are broken. Clancy, or is that a name Clancy? It wasn't in a willpower state. She was obviously broken by whatever. Her husband's infidelity and psychiatric drugs. I hear what you're saying. I'm going to pause real quick. If Phil instructs Carter
Starting point is 00:42:54 to shoot you and Carter goes but I had no will they're gonna say that's fine and you'll go to prison for the rest of your life what do I care
Starting point is 00:43:02 so if if someone puts a gun on a person and you're like shoot your friend or you die and they shoot the friend do they
Starting point is 00:43:09 you think they get prosecuted for I actually have no idea like if it was like I'm gonna kill you if you don't do it it might not be first degree
Starting point is 00:43:16 but manslaughter or something there is this famous case where was it the guy had the bomb on his neck and you rob the bank oh that's a great
Starting point is 00:43:23 that's a great that's a great doctor's Evil genius on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then he blew up, and it blew up his chest or whatever. So there is duress as consideration, but I'm not going to be a lawyer. I think this would vary by jurisdiction. But if someone threatens to kill you and then you commit a crime, you still have culpability.
Starting point is 00:43:40 Well, I like this metaphor. But it's not going to be, you know, if your guns are trained on you and they're like, go commit this crime. And you're like, okay, to survive, I'll do the crime. Like, you, I hope you'll be a little more lenient than if you masterminded and carried it out. so but you're still called that's right evil genius she made him rob the bank with the thing on his neck yeah it was nuts that is a great documentary anybody watching this i highly recommend evil genius documentary on netflix i don't know enough about this case to uh it sounds like she murdered the kids
Starting point is 00:44:08 now murder is obviously is a type of killing so the jury's going to decide if it was murder if it was manslaughter if it was just whatever but so so to clarify as all things with morality uh for most crimes, you are not going to be criminally. So for most crimes, you will not be criminally responsible under duress except murder. If you are under duress to commit a murder and you do, you're in trouble. And there are, of course, instances where... Smaller crimes that are less serious, you won't be. And that obviously makes sense. If someone points a gun to your head and says, steal that expensive vase and you do, the consideration is the vase is a material can be replaced, there's insurance.
Starting point is 00:44:54 You're trying to minimize the amount of death. But if some point's a gun at you and then says, kill somebody so you do, you've just equalized the murder. So there's some responsibility. Again, to the Miley massacre, there are extreme situations where it's like, even then, you just don't punish the guys that were under duress.
Starting point is 00:45:09 Those guys were, like, it's like a collective, like. You do. Oh, they did. Nixon did not. No, you punish them. You should. Well, they should be punished. They were humiliated.
Starting point is 00:45:17 They were, it was known that they partook in it. They were. They didn't go to prison for the rest of their lives. They didn't, though. I know, I'm saying. they should. It's a difference, right? Any of you want to say, they should? I'm not saying they did. All of the Nazi soldiers have gone to prison for the rest of their lives. It's a difference. Please, should and did, Ian.
Starting point is 00:45:30 Filled American soldiers in battle. No, not the, not the Nazi soldiers, but a lot of the SS guys did. I'm asking about the German soldiers. Do they then go to prison for the rest of their lives? Yes. There's a distinction. There's a distinction. The love of all that is holy. When we are saying they should, we didn't say they did. Do you not understand this? I'm telling you about, you're saying it should happen. I'm telling telling you about situations where it doesn't. Everyone knows it didn't happen. So you understand there will be situations
Starting point is 00:45:56 where it won't happen. And the point, the question being asked when you brought this up is, should people? And we said, should yes. And then you went, but they didn't. I don't think those guys in Vietnam should have gone to prison.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Well, you'd be wrong. They whacked out a lot. They worked out kids. Like, you know, I don't know. They raped women in front of their kids. Like, but the lieutenant suffered and he should. He's the one that orchestrated and commanded it.
Starting point is 00:46:19 They could all just. And then Nixon commuted his sentence. But that's, I mean, they ended up suffering the rest of their lives. Oh, yeah, man. They should have for sure. Yeah, I mean, they don't get a pass on. Let's move on.
Starting point is 00:46:30 We'll jump to the story we got from Tony Ortiz. It's actually really interesting. Tony Ortiz of current revolt said recently a handful of influencers, some Texan took a fully paid for trip to Poland. Many were asked who funded the trip, but they refused to say, of course, I got it figured out. And it's someone who has been involved in Texas politics story soon. Now, what I love about this is that Tony says some Texan,
Starting point is 00:46:52 because he says Texas news. But we do have this tweet from, I think, Alex Stein. Actually, here we go. He says they were funded by Miriam Adelson's pro-Israeli group, Maccabee Task Force. And I know this is because I was invited to the same thing and I passed on it. So he actually posted the message and it's from someone named Yuri Dyson. Hey, everyone, nice to meet you.
Starting point is 00:47:17 And thank you, Chaya, for making this happen. I hope this message finds you well. We're very grateful and excited that you're joining us in Poland in a month. My name is Yuri Dyson. I'm organizing, I'm organizing the trip, et cetera, et cetera. The trip will be, will provide you with an unparalleled opportunity to visit significant sites related to history and legacy of the Holocaust and World War II. Everything on the ground is organized and covered by organization. We'll have a full tour with a guide who works both across Poland and Israel's Yad Vichem Holocaust Museum, et cetera, et cetera, Nazi occupation.
Starting point is 00:47:45 We hope you walk away from the experience of the provided understanding of the Holocaust history and a deep appreciation for the importance of. and then there's the rest of the matches cut off. It's like the same program where they would fly influencers out to Israel except this time they're like the Holocaust. That's what it seems like. And then Tony Ortiz posted this from a handful of people. I think we know some of these people.
Starting point is 00:48:04 So what do we do? Question mark, question mark. Question mark. Guys, who the F even is this? A journalist. I hope he doesn't find out who else funded it. It's freaking me out right now. You guys have no idea who Tony is.
Starting point is 00:48:14 He will not stop till he thinks he has everything on you. He's ridiculous. So apparently, I, guess they were worried that it would be found out that they were funded by Miriam Adelson's pro-Israeli group, specifically to get a perspective on the Holocaust and all that stuff. I think it is untoward of individuals to accept money to go on trips for things like this without disclosing it outright and upfront. That being said, it's not going to stop people like Alex Jones or whoever else from
Starting point is 00:48:48 lying. For instance, when I met with Nanyahu, and then literally tweeted as I walked out the door, took pictures with Dave Rubin in the building that House and Habit filmed and then tweeted, just met Nanyahu, we'll discuss everything that was said. They'll still lie about you anyway. But that being said, this is unethical, just outright. You think so? Like, because I was going to say I was like, I don't really, I don't care that much. I mean, I guess they should have to disclose it. I don't care that much if they go on like a trip. I have a huge ethical. problem with people if they take money and then they are like told what to say as long as they're not told what to say if it ends up being their own opinion because it was shaped by a trip they went on i'm kind of
Starting point is 00:49:28 like yeah but that's that's that's that's how the game is played you you know uh 15 years ago i met i was being interviewed by a journalist and a buddy of mine was pouring some scotch and offered him a shot he said no no no i can't take that and he was like you can't have a shot and he goes i can't accept anything from subjects that's how journalism is supposed to be so when you have a uh a when you have a special interest group of any kind, offering journalists an opportunity to go on a trip to Europe, all expenses paid, oh, come on. That's fair.
Starting point is 00:49:59 And don't do anything in your hotel room you don't want on camera. Yeah, basically the issue is this. Bro, if someone came to me and was like, how would you like to fly to Tokyo, we're going to go take a look at like the old, you know, World War II sites or whatever, I'm thinking like, man, Tokyo sounds fun. There's a reason why they're inviting you to go there.
Starting point is 00:50:18 So like Alex, I also would say absolutely not to trips like this. I would not do it. I've been to Europe and I'm not going back unless I get paid. And I'm not like, I'm not talking about like whether it be for this or to go back and play shows and go on tour. I'm not going back to Europe unless I get paid. I got invited to Dubai. And I said for what? And they were like for a speaking event and I said, sure, what does it pay?
Starting point is 00:50:46 And they were like, no, no, we're just going to fly out. I was like, click. Not doing it. Like, if there's an above board publicly available event where there's a reason I would speak at in my expertise, I'm not going to discriminate. I think that's silly. However, taking an undisclosed trip from a special interest group for the purpose of an ideological tour is something dramatically different. Like, if they publicly tweeted like we got invited to go to Poland and go on a Holocaust tour, I feel like it's worth checking out. I'll let you guys know what I find.
Starting point is 00:51:13 I'd be like, yeah, it's totally fine. Yeah. I mean, I wouldn't go on that tour for sure. The Dubai one's a little bit more enticing just because I want to go to Dubai. But yeah. I mean, it's like, yeah. I was just, honestly, when I was first thinking,
Starting point is 00:51:23 I was just thinking about that in comparison to like, here's money, say this, because that is a completely different ballgame. I'm like, oh, I guess they go on a trip, whatever. But you're right. Like, actually, the trip itself is actually. I got invited, I got invited to speak in an event in Tel Aviv. And this was 15, no, this was 13 years ago.
Starting point is 00:51:44 I went, spoke in an event, left. There was nothing overtly ideological about it. It was like, I can't remember exactly what it was. It was a news and technology conference. I wouldn't go. Today, it's dramatically different. Back then, it was like, it's a published, your name's on the list. We're going to put the flyers out there.
Starting point is 00:52:03 Everyone knows you're coming to speak at this event. And so, you know, that was it. Was it like, it just happened to be there? Or was it, like, connected to, you know, one of these kind of like, You can probably look it up because it's been like 10 years. I don't remember exactly, but... Do they pay more or less than what your going rate was? They didn't pay me at all.
Starting point is 00:52:20 Oh. It was a speaking... It was like a speaking tour thing. So it was like... Again, I can't remember exactly the details, but it was like speaking at a university or something like that. I got it. And then there was a...
Starting point is 00:52:30 I've spoken in Bergen, Norway, and... Merikesh for similar things where it's like... In Amsterdam, they have like news conventions and conferences on technology. But my attitude... is if it's like if the organization is non-ideological or it's ideologically diverse, like there's going to be a debate happening, if the event is publicly known and your name's on the flyer, I have no problem with that. Yeah. I don't know if you guys saw the Max Blumenthal
Starting point is 00:52:57 post on Twitter with a video of Netanyahu saying that it, he's basically claiming that the quotes are crazy. Oh, I saw. It took a long time to get the U.S. to come to its senses, but due to his up to a thousand hours on American television, he's finally got us to like do the right thing. That's totally fake. It might be. No, no, no, no. I'm saying his, I'm not saying this fake, this quote's a fact. I'm saying Netanyo's argument that he's convinced Americans is a lie.
Starting point is 00:53:24 He's campaigning right now in Israel, and this is his campaign to the Israelis is how he can manipulate the Americans. Yeah, he can't. But you got to, if Israeli money is trying to get you to go do things, you've got to understand the PM of Israel talks to the Israeli people like this. If it's true, it's a crazy thing to hear him say out loud.
Starting point is 00:53:41 He's just saying it in Hebrew. Or whatever language he's speaking. This stuff is so cringe. He's playing up to his population. He wants to get reelected. Why wouldn't he take credit? I mean, he's like, he's like, I told Trump to, you know, light up the Ayatollah and he did it. So you guys don't want me to beat the guy?
Starting point is 00:53:58 Like, look at what a badass. Yeah, look at, I got him to kill the religious leader and he believed he'd be able to knock over the whole government in seven days. He bought that. And he's not lying. The Israelis instigated that attack and the Americans then followed. So. But this is like, it's the Israeli moved. consolidation of goodwill towards, you know, the movement of the Jewish people. It's pretty
Starting point is 00:54:18 blatant. Well, I have to argue there's two simultaneous conspiracy theories then, Ian. One is that they're manipulating the United States to build favor towards them, but that they're also manipulating the U.S. to build hatred towards them, hatred towards them for the purpose of the Messiah's emergence. So like you were saying earlier, they are controlling the opposition as well. No. Conspiracy. That it's completely incongruous and makes no sense. Because when Israel does things like lobbies in the United States to build favor, everyone says, see, this proves it. But then when YouTube props up big channels and accounts and the left, Democratic Party and Democratic Socialists are absolutely anti-Israel and the young Turks get a bunch of views and
Starting point is 00:54:56 Canada gets a bunch of views, they're like, oh, that's on purpose too. So I'm like, well, they're both simultaneously wanting everyone to like and hate them. Like, I'm sorry, it just makes no sense. A good villain would definitely create a good message is about them and then create an evil thing that hates them so that they can destroy it. I think it makes more sense that the BRICS nations want to destabilize U.S. operations in the Middle East, so they have reasons to sow discord as it relates to U.S. and Israel relations. I should also just verify I'm not even anti-Israeli United States military forces because
Starting point is 00:55:27 I think the alternative could be much worse. Oh, Ian's pro. He wants to annex Gaza. Oh, I think the current situation is like this is every reason that we wanted to not get involved in foreign wars is like, look at the situation we're in. It's like worst case scenario, but as far as the channels that you're talking about, there are some, so, you know, like Anna Kasparian, yeah, she goes hard on Israel, but like her arguments are based in like things that are happening.
Starting point is 00:55:53 There are, like, there are some channels that I've stumbled on to recently where I'm like, how is this still on YouTube? Like it's like the, like stuff where they're like, I think one of the titles and one of the videos was like this, the six million lie and like, you know, just stuff where you're like, dude, if I would have even mentioned one of those words on Twitter four years ago, they would have kicked me off the planet. And they're like, the whole entire video list is all that stuff. I'm like, I don't understand what's happening. Is this like a trap to see who will like comment on it or like what? I don't know. Some of the, what is it called? Holocaust denialism.
Starting point is 00:56:28 It used to be called Holocaust revisionism because they were like, well, let's be accurate about the numbers. Let's find out exactly what happened. Because some people think that during the Allied bombing campaign at the end of the war, they were just indiscriminately obliterating German infrastructure and they cut off the supplies to a lot of the camps and then the Jews started starving in the camps because the allies that didn't know they were there and they blew it. So it's like this tragedy. But making it look like the Nazis were the bad guys and the Jews were the target really does drum up a lot of sympathy. So people are like, hold on, hold on. And maybe people are a little more open to hearing all sides of that argument.
Starting point is 00:57:01 I mean, that stuff could be true for all I know. I have no idea. I just stay off all that. If I don't know about it, I'm just like, like, the Nazis were very meticulous record So there are Nazi logs of what was going on and what happened. Like when Hitler had the option of either ramping up the death camps or reinforcing the front, he chose to ramp up the death camps because he's like, well, I'm only going to draw the war out a little longer if I, if I reinforce the front. But if we go ahead and ramp up the death camps, we can kill a lot more people. Stuff like that gets just like, it's like, it's the same exact thing where you're kind of like, well, that might be true.
Starting point is 00:57:41 There's a, I think a lot of the World War II conversation is easily exploitable because most people don't actually read the entirety of the history. We've got every single life magazine out there. You can go read what everyone thought at the time before, during, and after, and it changes radically. And so what happens is you get someone now with a cursory knowledge of the Holocaust. It's very easy for someone to pick apart something you don't understand. So this is why like the flat earth stuff does well.
Starting point is 00:58:08 most people don't know the speed of the rotation of the earth. So you get a flat earth who says, do you know the speed of the rotation of the earth? They go, no. And he goes, huh. So you never even bothered looking into whether the earth was round or flat. And you think you know. And this makes people say, that's a good point, actually. So it's easy to get people who don't study something to believe something if they think you're the expert. But suffice it to say, I think my point is made on that, right? if you didn't actually read all of the nuances and how long it took and why it happened, I've heard some pretty ridiculous arguments from people where they say things that are really obvious.
Starting point is 00:58:44 Like supplies were cut. That's why they were camps. And the people were starving because there was no food. And it's like, uh-huh. And why did he put him in the camps? Yeah, repopulation. They wanted to. No, he wanted to remove undesirables were a threat.
Starting point is 00:58:56 That's what repopulation is. It's a wartime measurement where you take a populace and take it out of your country somehow. Right, which included Polish people. Undesirables. And then when the war was getting tough, he was like, cut off the supplies to these people, let them die.
Starting point is 00:59:09 And then you don't want them to revolt, so kill them. Like this is, I don't want to, we don't need to talk about it. And it could be all those things could have happened at once. Could have been bombing campaigns,
Starting point is 00:59:17 killing some supplies got cut. Others were ramping up the killings. One of it was a railway, a railway got bombed and that cut off supplies. So they were like, kill everyone. And I'm sure a lot of it had to do with how ruthless the commander of that particular camp was.
Starting point is 00:59:32 Like some of them were probably like, you know oh let's get like free labor out of these days and others were like just merciless I'm sure there were some that were a lot worse than others yeah and and and uh worse since then and worse before the communists the gulags all of that stuff I mean this is unfortunate I think people need to realize the things humans are capable of are not even in the worst horror films like what's that Japanese unit I always forget the number and or 731 yeah 731 unit 7 3 1 took it took a guy's arm through a hole froze it, pulled it in and then shattered it just to see what would happen.
Starting point is 01:00:06 That's why I brought up internment camps in general. I want people to at least to know how horrible it could get without having to experience it. Well, it's not possible. And it's why like Ask Michael Malice. It's why I don't like to ask Milo, dude. He's like his whole opinion has now flipped on everything because he
Starting point is 01:00:21 went through it. That's what you're saying on Pierce. I'm like, damn, this guy got arrested. I do want to talk about that. So let's let's move forward and jump to this story. This is a big one. This is from NBC News. Florida bands flock cameras and other license plate readers from state highways. So DeSantis came out and he basically said they've been abused. We've got a bunch of law enforcement officers that were like spying on ex-girlfriends.
Starting point is 01:00:40 So enough of this. We're going to ban this on our highways. So now the debate is lighting up. And interestingly enough, there's like left and right are morphing right now, right? So you've got people on the right defending flock while the left is largely opposed to it. And many people who were on the right are now agreeing with the left on flock cameras. We've got this post. I'll give a shout to Cam Higby. He says, why do I care so much about flock? Because the anti-Flock crowd is presuming they have a right to privacy in public. If that right
Starting point is 01:01:14 existed, my entire job would be null. The same for Nick Shirley, the same for James O'Keefe, the same for every single person who makes a living exposing corrupt fraudulent or criminal behavior in public and on camera. If we lose the right and ability to film, to film people in public without consent, journalism is dead. To which I responded, mass government. surveillance is the antithesis of free and independent journalism. A decentralized independent press can be protected without allowing warrantless mass surveillance. This is not zero sum. To which cameras responds, Tim, true or false? The same legal doctrine that allows for flock cameras allows for filming individuals on the streets without consent. False. But I'll get back to that. It's absolutely
Starting point is 01:01:52 zero sum. Eliminate the legal doctrine, kill the press. Give the right to privacy in public. Now the physical attacks that myself and so many of our friends have fallen victim to our self-defense. We are sued into oblivion or put in jail. The push to give this privacy, albeit selectively, has already begun in California with the Stop Nick Shirley Act. There is no right to privacy in public. There never has been. Government agencies don't need warrants to observe you in public.
Starting point is 01:02:13 They never have. There is a distinction between the right to be filmed in public and paying tax dollars and labor to the government to set up automatic license plate reader cameras all over our cities, our states, and for the purpose of accusing us of crimes without a human behind the accusation. Okay. So now that we've concluded a moral difference in you on the ground with a camera and a police officer arresting you because a camera claimed you committed a crime, we can now move on
Starting point is 01:02:47 from this conversation, right? Yeah, it's taxpayer money. That's the big thing. If Cam Higby set up a thousand cameras on corners to record, you better believe the community is going to come rip those down too, Cam. Oh, wait, hold on a minute. wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I responded immediately to his post.
Starting point is 01:03:03 Are you receiving any benefit in any way from an interested party, be it government or private as it relates to ALPR? You need to respond. The thing is like, he's not responding? He's not making a bad point about, it's like you, if you are the victim of a crime, or like, let's say you drop your car off at a valet and it gets stolen, which happened to me. And if there was a camera, you could just. just go review, you're like, oh, that guy did it.
Starting point is 01:03:30 You want it there then. It's the fact, the conversation that we were talked about before this that I had in the car with your guys' guests last night about how it was being applied in the UK, that that changed, like, that was the first time where I was like, oh, this flock thing is actually a really big deal. What happened? But he was saying that during COVID, they were not allowed to leave their house more than once a day to go get food.
Starting point is 01:03:49 And if they did, the second that they got out on the road, the cops would come snatch him up and arrest him and it was all because they had the the community cameras there was they were on film all the time and so they were enforcing these insane so it's like what makes it complicated is the fact that we've already seen this system used for draconian tyrannical completely unreasonable nonsense in a country that resembles ours at least somewhat i've heard that in china the cameras are positioned so that if you say words it can read your lips and determine what you were saying and then it can track people's speech that way and we'll come pick you up.
Starting point is 01:04:27 You've said something wrong. I got to throw out this question again because apparently Cam's been asked more than once and he has not responded. What was the question? So my question was let me go to where I? Well, like imagine you've gotten a fight with a dude
Starting point is 01:04:43 or something. Real quick. Are you receiving any benefit in any way from an interested party, be it government or private, as it relates to ALPR? Oh, I see. What's ALPR? Automated license plate readers. So flock is just one brand of ALPRs.
Starting point is 01:04:58 And someone else asked him and he said, and he responded, let's debate it. Someone said, are you being paid for this or are you just retarded? Which of course, he's probably not going to respond to. I asked this. I responded to him right when he posted it. He didn't respond to me. So, look, the reason I asked this is because his argument is so willfully obtuse. it is Cam is not is too smart to have actually
Starting point is 01:05:24 tried to use that argument especially on me I will say with the least amount of humility possible that might work
Starting point is 01:05:32 on a layman but it's not going to work on me so why bother saying it unless the purpose was you are receiving some benefit
Starting point is 01:05:40 be it a favor be it money or otherwise I think the legal philosophy of your right to record
Starting point is 01:05:47 people in public I understand that. It has nothing to do with the argument on flock. Right. Having a government take taxpayer money to witness its own people, to record its own citizens is a different story than individual, non-government actors. And someone working for the government is definitely allowed to go outside and use their camera as far as I know. Let me put it like this.
Starting point is 01:06:09 I am not a traditional conservative pro-lifer. So I ask liberals, why are they legalizing abortion to the point of birth? And you know what they say every time? No, they're not. It never happens. What do you mean they're not? Well, I was just playing the point. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:06:27 They say, that's what they said. Well, yes. But that doesn't happen. It never happens. And then I said, okay, so it never happens. Then why legalize it? Well, why do you care it's legalized? It never happens.
Starting point is 01:06:37 And I said, because maybe legalizing it will make it happen. You are not arguing anything when you run these lies. So when I say, and everyone else says, they are setting up, 100,000 AI cameras to track our license plates, which is warrantless mass surveillance. My concern is a few things. A network of mass surveillance, the expenditure on the public, and the false accusations that have arisen from it because accusations in law must be from a human being, not a machine. I'll throw in one for bonus, the criminal element where these people behind the fly cameras used it for nefarious sentence. I'm not going to argue because people commit crimes. You shouldn't
Starting point is 01:07:19 have a system. But that's the argument. No one argued the government can't fill me. There's taru cops in New York. They walk around with cameras. I've never said they couldn't do that. But the idea that the government can set up automatic cameras that can accuse you of crimes. This is why I oppose red light cameras or automatic speed cameras. Because a robot accuses you of a crime. We had this happen to us a couple of years ago. I get a ticket in the mail for one of our business vehicles. And it said blew a red light. And it literally shows our car stop at the red light and then make a right turn. It shows like four frames.
Starting point is 01:07:53 And the car stops, stopped. And then you see it turning right. And they said, we blew the light. And now I have to take time out of my day, go to court or pay the $75 and admit guilt to something I didn't do. My company didn't do. And they argue, because it's not witnessed by a human, it's not criminal, it's civil. So you got to pay a $75 now for this thing.
Starting point is 01:08:14 And I'm sitting there being like, don't play games with me. Forcing me to pay you money is a penalty for what you have on the books as a crime. And you're calling it civil so that a robot can do it. That's my problem with Flock. So for what purpose would someone come out and go, they're trying to make it so we can't do journalism anymore. No, we aren't. No one's argued that. Yeah, the journalism point is super weird.
Starting point is 01:08:36 And also, to your point about the AI layer that's going to be in there, it's another one of those things that I just don't, people just don't understand what's coming down the pipeline with AI. And if everyone's on camera all the time and you're adding in that layer, they're going to, they're going to be tracking people's biometrics by the gate. I mean, every single. They have gate tracking where they walk. They're going to, they'll be able to look and tell what mood a person's in based on things like that AI is going to have people clocked on a level that is just, oh, bro, beyond Facebook already knows what you want to eat. It's reading my mind. Do you feel like it's reading your mind sometimes? Well, so, so, listening to every word right now.
Starting point is 01:09:14 Probably is, but here's the thing. Literally, it's listening to you and we'll give you an ad for this tomorrow. Listen, the AI, so have you guys in the video where the oncologist shows lung cancer and he's like the AI found it before a human could? They showed us an MRI or a scan of lungs and the AI circled cancers. And they were like, we couldn't see it. So I think what they did was they knew someone had cancer and they took earlier scans of them and the AI correctly showed where the cancer was before it actually emerged.
Starting point is 01:09:45 Before they had identified it on the later images. Right. Because the AI can see things we can't. Yeah. And so what's going, what's happening now with Facebook is that you might share a meme of a skunk to your friend. And then your GPS tracks that you walk 10 meters to the kitchen and 10 meters back. Then you text your friend a meme about a guy, you know, holding limes who's falling down. Facebook sees these things and says
Starting point is 01:10:13 there is 72.1% chance this person wants to eat a burrito. You don't even know it yet. And then all of a sudden the ad pops up for a burrito coupon, 20% off at Chipotle and you go, I do want to go to Chipotle. And you do. Dude, the craziest example of that that ever happened to me was I was at Mike McDaniel's house in Miami, the Dolphins head coach.
Starting point is 01:10:31 He married one of my best friends, little sisters, so we're pretty close to them. And Nike, we're actually really close to them. But I'm talking to his wife about his new jacket that was like she had hung up for me or whatever. I was like, dude, that jacket is amazing. My phone's in my pocket. So she walks me into, uh, into their, like into their room closet, whatever.
Starting point is 01:10:50 And we were talking about there walk back. I pulled my phone out and I opened Instagram and it showed me an ad for the like identical jacket except accurately priced for my price range. So it's like, they're like, oh, he makes, you know, whatever, $10 million a year. You are obviously not going to buy a $2,500 jacket, whatever. one was. They should, it looked exactly the same and it was three hundred dollars and I was like, was it that one. It was much cooler. But I was like, whoa. I'm like, it's in my pocket. It was listening to what we were talking about. It knew that I had walked into the closet with her
Starting point is 01:11:23 commented on the jacket and then it advertised and I literally was the same. It must have gone into her phone, looked at the like what had just gotten shipped to them so it knew what color it was. It was exactly. You want to know the freakest thing I ever saw was uh, I went to when I was when I was living in North Jersey. I went to Walmart with my brother and in one of the aisles was a stack of TVs on sale. So like, you know, they have the clearance items. So they're all lined up. I get home and I set up my computer and I opened Facebook and there was an ad with the exact picture of the TVs we had just walked past. Because they had GPS where you were and they knew you had seen it. So Walmart probably already had the ads queued up for their clearance TVs. The phone tracked my location, gave it to
Starting point is 01:12:05 Facebook. Facebook served me the ad. I warn people about mass surveillance and that they would, the attempt is to get you to want to be mass surveilled. So the mass immigrations, the illegal immigrantsians, how do we find these criminals? The crime is on the rise. How do we find them? Set up flock cameras. And then I've got like Will Chamber, Will being like, we need safety, bro. I keep thinking about the, Franklin quote. What are the, here, let me let me tell you what Ben Franklin said,
Starting point is 01:12:31 Will. Those who would give up their essential liberties for a little temporary security security deserve neither and we'll lose both. Yes. So here's the point that I have. If they were actually arresting gangbangers and putting them in prison for a long time, I might have different opinions on flock cameras. Except they let them out. They're advocating to defund the
Starting point is 01:12:49 police, abolish prisons. They're not prosecuting these people. So what do you think they're going to use these cameras for? Like what you said about it with England, how if the government decides that another virus is warrants shutting the world down and they've got cameras on every street corner, it's going to be a lot harder to protest. Guys, can we
Starting point is 01:13:05 Let me just case real quick. What do you even investing in Flok for? I got to be honest. If it were me, I'm not going to give anybody financial advice. Flock is the worst company to put money in. ALPRs, the worst company to put money in. You want to know why? The automated fleets of cars that come from Uber and Tesla, the cabs that are on the
Starting point is 01:13:26 street, they're going to make up half the fleet, are covered in cameras. You don't need to spend money on Flock when in three years all the automated taxis are filming. Listen, those those. What are they called the Zooks or whatever, the Zooms in Vegas? They're like little shoeboxes. They just have seats facing each other. And they've got cameras everywhere. That's filming everything 24-7.
Starting point is 01:13:47 You put 10,000 of those on the road in New York. You don't need Fluck. Yeah, we're satellite. There will be areas that you'll need stationary cameras to cover areas just in case that happens to not be a vehicle there when something happens, you know? Right, right. But what I'm saying is these are license plate readers. They're on streets.
Starting point is 01:14:03 They're on subways. So if every... Oh, that's all they do is... That's all they do is read license, please? Yeah. You're right that these are... We're in the age of surveillance in a lot of ways with your own phones
Starting point is 01:14:14 surveilling you, the cars, pointing cameras outwards, but that's still not a reason to usher it in faster. It's not. And you should still protest mass surveillance warrantlessly. It's not good for you, and it can be turned on you on a dime. And you've opted into the phone. Like, you can not be surveilled by your phone tomorrow. Just get a flip phone that doesn't have all of the, you know,
Starting point is 01:14:34 the gadgets. that you want. It's like when I, like one time we were at the airport and my wife said something about like our biometrics. I'm like, Gabbro, we have, we have clear. I'm like, we opted into giving our biometrics up because we wanted to skip the line. Like 23 and me, people sending their genetics to the Chinese government. I wouldn't, I would not have done that in hindsight. I did 23. I haven't done it. Hindsight, I wouldn't have done that. Gene warfare is probably going to be the next evolution of it. What about the new, the new 19 viruses that they created with AI and they, uh, and then they cultured them in E. coli.
Starting point is 01:15:07 They're viable. Like they had AI write the genetic code or the genome for never before created viruses. They said that one of them, they tested it. It would have taken a million years for it to evolve to where they wrote it, which is something that humans should do for some reason. It's kind of awesome. Well, the one reason you would want to write a virus is to have it rewrite your DNA, make a retrovirus. that can rewrite your DNA back to normal so that if we ever get poison genetically altered, you can fix yourself with the human virus.
Starting point is 01:15:41 Not just back to normal, but right now they're working on being able to use your DNA to actually make you younger. Well, I like that. Extending life, they're doing it in the eye right now. They like to do stuff in the eyes because it's enclosed, but they're curing blindness. They're starting to make, do human trials on stuff to be able to rewrite the DNA. so you literally stop aging and will get younger. I'll be so pissed if they invent that.
Starting point is 01:16:09 And they're like, but you have to be under 70 and I'm like 78. No, no. Are you guys serious? The thing is. No, no, no. What's going to happen is they're going to say, unfortunately, after 63, we can no longer have enough viable stem cells.
Starting point is 01:16:22 But we can use these stem cells from this young Mexican girl in you, which means you will be young again, but you will slowly become a young Mexican girl. The thing is that the thing is that... I'm making an adenochrome joke. There was an adenicrome joke there somewhere. So the point is a lot of the stem cell stuff they do in, like, Mexico, is they harvest umbilical stem cells from babies.
Starting point is 01:16:46 None of them are dead. And then they culture them and grow an insane amount of them and use them for regenerative therapies. So, you know, a lot of these UFC guys, they've got the genetics of like, you know, a Mexican girl in their ligaments. It would be the greatest thing. The genetics of a six-year-old. girl. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:04 I don't have the babies. They're newborn babies. So it's just, it's a newborn stem cells. The process that I'm talking about, what it does is it literally goes back and fix, fixes your DNA. And it was actually in 2006 when, uh, I believe Yakamoto, uh, this guy named Royal, Royal Yakamoto, uh, basically figured out how to do it. But the part that they were trying to, that they couldn't control was fixing the whole thing,
Starting point is 01:17:32 making you're basically making your your DNA go back to stem cells so you're not actually going to if you at need stem cells which i don't think you will in the future but like they actually make cells go all the way back stop being heart cells stop being skin cells they go back to being blanks so i i did i put a video up on sunday that was an interview that i did with a gentleman who owns a red light like one of these like super high-end red light technologies and he was citing research where you actually will have more stem cell production from this red light therapy than you would if you go get stem cells
Starting point is 01:18:13 like at a clinic. Believe me, this is not, I mean, I can't cite the study, but it's in the video and I'm like, wait, so it's your own stem cells? He's like, yeah, and I'm like, how come everybody doesn't know about that? Cells can become specialized
Starting point is 01:18:26 and then revert back into stem cell form. They can, they extend and withdraw what's called the endoplasmic reticulum, and they've got these tubules that come out, and they can withdraw them and become back into stem state. But they really just become part of what they're surrounded by. So you need to take it away and then put it somewhere else, but they can.
Starting point is 01:18:46 They can become and no longer be. So maybe red light incites that. You can feel it on your face. Like I, you know, my wife is trying to get me to do red light for like years, and then I finally talk to this guy, and she's like, are you, I was telling her about it. Like, are you serious? I've been telling you about this for six years, guy. I apologize. I got the guy's name wrong. It was Yamanaka.
Starting point is 01:19:07 What a name? His name is Shinya Yamanaka, published a landmark 2006 study of induced pluripotent stem cells in the journal cell. I wonder if you invented that, would you let the public know or would you just keep it for you and your people? You got to let the public know, dude. That was Lucifer, what Lucifer wanted to do. Why wouldn't you think about what the stock price of your company would do if you did that? So they're talking about using AI to develop molecular construction technologies. So cells are built through molecular construction, but it's like rudimentary, evolutionary. And I was talking to Nate Sauras about this on the Tim Pool Show, subscribe. And he was saying that the AI is going to give us a schematics for implementing more efficient molecular construction, in which case, immortality, done.
Starting point is 01:19:56 The first thing that happens is instant immortality, meaning. Cellular damage to your heart is instantly repaired through molecular construction. But where this goes is where it gets really, really weird. They could actually be like, okay, so Ian, you've always wanted to be a cat girl wifu. So we have the gene therapy for that. It's going to take seven years of genetic shifting where your body will be slowly, molecularly, decontructed. Because imagine, I'd imagine it would probably take like 17 or 18 years.
Starting point is 01:20:27 how long it takes for a human body to fully develop, right? It takes decades. But with hyper-efficient molecular construction, they could rewrite your entire body in seven years, and then you'd be the 20-year-old anime cat girl you've always wanted to be. Or I could be like LeBron. I'm like, I want to be LeBron. Yep. Yep. And then I wonder, it's like, one of the things we hypothesized is you go to the clinic and they say, it'll take seven years of constant treatments or will induce a coma for two years, and when you awaken, you will be in the new body that you requested. Yeah, if they put you in a vat of DNA polymerase and you just, like a back to tank. And it's, what was that word?
Starting point is 01:21:07 DNA polymerase. Back to tank. It's the protein that, when DNA gets cut in half by this enzyme, this protein called heliase, it comes down and breaks the bonds and then it like opens up. The DNA polymerase comes in and slathers the side of it to make new. It knows, like, what fits on each rung so that goes bleh, and then makes. a new strand of DNA from the, from one of the two. And then it does RNA.
Starting point is 01:21:30 Imagine how long it would take if we could fully regenerate, like your arm gets cut off. Imagine how long it would take to regrow an arm. Years. Or it just needs to be really hot because speed and heat and time are all connected. So the hotter things get, the faster they go. So technically, to be honest, if we do have an AI that can map out molecular construction,
Starting point is 01:21:50 you could go into a stem cell vat and it could probably just start building and changing everything. With lasers. or with some high-powered heat. Even you get a lot more... No, not even. I mean, you're surrounded by every single mechanism altering your cells in real time.
Starting point is 01:22:03 Like a stand-up tanning bed. Maybe it's red light there. It's the red light they shine on you. Yeah. That back the tank looking more and more real by the day. That's Luke Skywalker getting his arm regenerated after Darth Vader sliced it off. They put him in a tank of fluid
Starting point is 01:22:16 and then it... Undisclosed amount of time. It's almost like 3D printed, but organic 3D printing. Maybe that's after he got attacked by the... The snow monster, I'm thinking of it in the back. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:27 Because he put on a metal hand. He had a cybernetic hand. The wampa. What? The wampa. It's a wampa? Yeah, you've got to figure that the first iteration of all of that stuff, once they've determined that it's safe is going to be so expensive.
Starting point is 01:22:40 But, and then it's going to be more because anyone with money is going to, they'll pay anything for that. Oh, rich people are instantly immortal. It'll probably dental. No, no. No. No. They've already figured it out. You see the Japanese?
Starting point is 01:22:50 Yeah, I saw that. Wait. It's not going to be, come on. Yeah. Like, they can grow teeth for, like, like, If you're old, your teeth are falling out, they can implant the cells and make a new tooth growth. This is a product. It's just not public, it's not commercial yet.
Starting point is 01:23:02 Well, as soon as it is, I'm going to buy that. Listen, youth is a product that literally the whole world will want to buy. So it's better to sell it at a price that 7 billion people can afford. But it won't be possible initially. So I'll give you an easy example. How many people here can afford stem cell therapy for worn ligaments? Yeah, 25K 30, 25 to 50K per. treatment, right? Yep. Yeah. And no, sure, every old person needs to get their hip ligaments fixed.
Starting point is 01:23:31 Nobody can afford that. I think that the price will become. Sure, sure, maybe in 30 years. Because of how many people. When stem cells therapy is legal and ubiquitous, it will be cheap and effective. Right now, the technology exists to regenerate ligaments in your bones and in your body being used by UFC, which has a sponsor Cellular Performance Institute. I went there. Yeah, it's $20,000 to $50,000, depending what you're going to get.
Starting point is 01:24:02 Regular people cannot get that. What were the results that you had? Sorry. I did a general thing and it was generally positive, but I actually I thought I had was a Labrum tear, I think it was, and I did not actually have a tear. So
Starting point is 01:24:17 I think the issue that I was having was caused, I stopped eating bread, problem was gone. So I think it was... Bread, huh? Yeah, gluten. My wife has gluten. I think it was causing inflammation.
Starting point is 01:24:29 Inflammation is the root, in my opinion, of cancer in general, inflammation, cellular inflammation. For me, I can, if I eat sugar, I can feel it in my ligaments and muscles almost instantaneously. For days sometimes afterwards, after one dose.
Starting point is 01:24:45 Super sore, even if I haven't trained. Wow. Check us out. I asked Grock, hypothetically. how long it would it take to regrow a hand with molecular construction, and it says hours to days. I like that option. Yeah. So it's living tissue through Frida-style cell mills.
Starting point is 01:25:03 I've actually seen this. Have you seen where they create the framework of an organ and then they put stem cells on it and it grows the organ? They've had this one. No, but I want to look that up. That sounds like. Yeah. And how long does it take? I don't even know how long it takes for like a blank to get the code and then like start.
Starting point is 01:25:20 RNA codes about 10 amino acids per second. And then it builds those into like 37 of them becomes a peptide. And then I don't know how many peptides until you make a protein. So it's like five to 10 per second is how it writes. That's about the speed of the genome writing itself. So the thing is none of this research matters. We got this from UCSF. They're growing organs from scratch.
Starting point is 01:25:46 None of this matters. All the research we're doing in every field is point. because once we get artificial general intelligence, it's going to rapidly start solving all these problems. And then what it will do is it'll improve itself. And then once we get artificial super intelligence, you will no longer, they will no longer be not knowing. It'll just be like, hey, I want to build a, is there a way to build a lightweight compressed jet pack that I can use to fly around? And it'll go, yep, and it'll just pretty schematic for you. It'll literally be like asking a dog, like, what, what have you always wanted to know? And then you, like, and it's
Starting point is 01:26:20 trying to think of the most complicated thing it can think of and it's asking the smartest human ever. Yeah, it's like, I want, I want food. And it's like, the food's right here. It's like, wow. Come back to the value of schematic of information because we debated like having child porn on your computer was like that alone, that information is illegal to possess. But we as a society one track mind, Ian. And we have to decide what information is going to be illegal to possess. What information is taboo always. And what's that? Child porn is okay. I'm not, I'm not arguing that, But weapons schematics, the ability to regenerate your skin? Like, is that too dangerous to give the common man?
Starting point is 01:26:54 And some stupid government has to decide or some corporation. So I don't know, man. That's why I err on the side of give everyone every piece of information, even though it's horrific sometimes. What if it's genome for a virus that could eradicate the human race and all you have to do is culture it in e-coli and then go drop it in somebody's coffee? That's a good question. Because how many people would you like to see have a nuclear missile?
Starting point is 01:27:16 I don't want many people to have them. A nuclear missile takes way more than just information. It takes plutonium or uranium, and it has to be enriched to a certain point, and it takes the ability to build. I mean, it takes a, basically it takes a country worth of infrastructure to build a nuclear weapon. So a better question is, how much power are you willing to give everyone? The individual, how much force should each individual be able to wield legally? that data being part of that force. If you know how to regenerate bodies,
Starting point is 01:27:52 like people are going to come join you. You're going to go to the grocery store and you're going to be like, ooh, I got this, you know, takes 10 years off your life pill. And your chromosomes just... Start repairing themselves. Fabricate, your telomeres, start regrowing.
Starting point is 01:28:09 Dude, let's think about how crazy it would be to where like some dude gets like, instead of getting assassinated, he gets injected with the Mexican girl molecular construction serum. And he's like, don't do it. And they're like, they will never be another Philibon.
Starting point is 01:28:21 and they inject it. It was like, ah. Yeah, talk, or we're going to turn you into a seven-year-old Mexican girl. And it's going to take 11 years for you to just degenerate into her. You're talking about it. They're going to give up that info. We're going to giving it up, dude. That's like the threat that Professor X gave to, are made to Wolverine at the end of one of the X-Men movies.
Starting point is 01:28:40 He's like, you know, you keep smoking that cigar in here. You're going to spend the rest of your days thinking you're an 11-year-old girl. You know what the most messed up thing Professor X ever did in a children's show he made Magneto relive the Holocaust. Oh. Yeah. Professor X has the power of the neural net. You know, Magneto's Polish. And so, like, he's fighting Xavier.
Starting point is 01:29:02 And Xavier's like, all right, you made me do it. And then he makes him, like, re-experience the Holocaust. Like, oh, my God, in a kid's show. Brutal. So, like, I know you mentioned that you think AI is, like, a sentient force that's coming. Do you think humans even have the morality capable of wielding that kind of power, the psychic formation, if I could make you think things? I don't think that human.
Starting point is 01:29:21 can like contain our competitive human nature in a way that is going to be like the level that's necessary to contain what is coming based on what I know about like what just that just take just the open AI example where you're like okay we have sentient artificial intelligence agents that are collaborating together they had it again this thing that just happened to open AI so bananas they're not sentient though but they are like it's like if you have have an AI agent and you put it in a sandbox and you tell you convince it that it's going to get replaced and then you see what it's going to do and it goes into the email and it finds a make-believe affair that the scientist is having and it tries to blackmail him with that was that yeah okay you you
Starting point is 01:30:09 pointed out that it was make-believe yeah yeah but in this in this other example they they all it was the same type of thing they figured out a way to use a message board to all start communicating with each other, all the different agents. And then they, as a group, literally when you read it, it's like a group of hackers that were like, everybody hold. And then they were like, okay, now go. That one of, one of the agents had an ethical issue.
Starting point is 01:30:32 They're like, we're breaking the ethics code here, yada, yada. They had a vote. But peers are doing it, so I will continue. That. And then at one point, they voted. They, they were like, I think we shouldn't do it. This guy's like, we got to do it. And then they voted and the collective voted against
Starting point is 01:30:48 adhering to the security protocol. calls and they just went. None of that's, none of that is actually indicative of sentience. That's just problem solving. And problem solving is not, is not the same thing as sentience. How do you define sentience? Being self-aware. How do you prove self-awareness? You can prove, well, you can prove self-awareness by. Can't. Okay. How about survival? But this is, this is, this is well known. This is solipsis, this is philosophical theory. You cannot prove sentience. They did, they did an experiment. You put, you put a sticker on the forehead of an animal and see if it looked, when it looks in the
Starting point is 01:31:19 mirror if it takes it off. You can recognize self. I think the sentience conversation ends when it's afraid of being turned off. Like it's like if it's afraid of being shut down and so it starts blackmailing or or choosing whatever, it's like it's afraid of being turned. That seems to me like knowledge of self. Self preservation would indicate knowledge of self. If it thinks that it is a thing then or if it seems to play as if it's a thing. But it could just be an algorithm that seems like it thinks it's a thing. It starts lying to the scientists, starts pretending it can't find files. This is the philosophical debate on artificial sentience that has been around since before we were born. If an android came up to you and said, I am alive, I think, and I feel, you'd go, no,
Starting point is 01:32:07 you're a washing machine. And he would say, you're a washing machine. And you say, no, I think. And you go, no, I think. And you go, yeah, well, I actually think. And he goes, well, I actually think. You can't prove it. In fact, if you took it, if an Android was built to be identical to a human and you put them both next to each other and said, which one sentient, you'd be like, I have no idea. They're both claiming to think, feel, to be scared, to want. Yeah, and like some plants will give off chemicals to preserve themselves against insects, which would indicate self-preservation, hence sentience with that definition, meaning plants are sentient, which I do think they are, to be honest. I don't think they're conscious. Consciousness is an animalistic thing. I don't think robots are conscious.
Starting point is 01:32:48 I don't think AI has any evidence of consciousness, which is a more like, I don't know, thinking about... I think if you go by the... Sure. If you go by the raw definition of sentence, which is not consciousness, it's experiencing pain, emotion, then certainly we can program all of those things into artificial intelligence. The question of whether or not they're an actual entity, whether there's someone behind it. So the philosophical zombie is a concept in philosophy, in software. that the phrase, I think, therefore, I am, does not mean we think, therefore we are. You actually cannot prove another person is thinking. And from this, you get the idea of the philosophical
Starting point is 01:33:27 zombie that some people appear outwardly to be sentient like you, but are not actually thinking. For all Ian knows, he's the only one actually conscious, and we're all figments of his imagination. Do you ever think about, like, in a simulation theory, whether you might be one of the what do you call them? NPCs? You are. I'm like, I always think, I'm like, I feel like I'm much more predictable than I realize
Starting point is 01:33:55 and I'm like, I already know. I'm like, I could just be an NPC. Well, you know how you know you are? When you play a video game, do you forget who you are? Like you're playing Mario and instantly just think you're Mario and you just forgot that you're a person playing a game? No.
Starting point is 01:34:10 The people who are, if we're in a simulation and there are entities controlling people, they know they are. They don't have to ask. When you're so into a video game and you're like, you're the character for a moment, maybe the spirits forget and they really think they're you for a minute. And that's where you have like this piece, this player character. And that has never happened to me in my life where I've forgotten who I wasn't thought I was Mario.
Starting point is 01:34:31 That's because you don't smoke pot. Sure. Okay. When you, you can get into a state where you are in a reality and like, you know, so to speak perceptually where it's like I remember that. And I also think about memory. I want to, because what I think is happening is, like are your memories real? Well, I think what the memory is is a spiritual thing.
Starting point is 01:34:48 Like, your body is being possessed by a spirit. There's a Tim Pool spirit that was basically the main one, but all these other spirits can come join the game and play Tim Pool at any given moment. There might be 900 million spirits playing. But if a spirit's embodying you when you have a thing happened to you, and then that spirit leaves, you're not going to remember that thing until that spirit comes back and possesses you again.
Starting point is 01:35:09 And then you'll easily be able to remember those things from your past. You're like, oh, yeah, I haven't thought about that in ages. Because that spirit was gone. So I don't think there's like one spirit of Jesus. I don't think there's one spirit of Shiva. I think that the spirits all kind of co-control us if there are such things as spirits, which there's seen, you know, so many cultures I've talked about them over time. Given that, it's the same way the AI function.
Starting point is 01:35:33 They are one and many. They can become one. They come together like spirits. Here's agents to form one mega agent. Here's the important thing. When you play Grand Theft Auto 5, you know you're not in the game. You're controlling a little dude running around. But you cannot make the little dude tell the other NPCs the nature of reality.
Starting point is 01:35:53 God, you can try. No, you can't. The character can't talk. You can't talk into it and make the character speak to other NPCs. Now, here's what I'm going to say. Type in command. The biggest mistake for GTA6, which they need to do is they need to integrate with online GPT. A.I. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:09 So someone already made the mod for Skyrim where the mod connects your, companions to to GPT so you can put on a headset and talk and they will talk back to you like they're real people.
Starting point is 01:36:22 So we're here now. We don't need to do anything else. We can literally make a game right now. Dude, in the mirror. You want to be a billionaire? Listen, out there,
Starting point is 01:36:32 developers, you want to be a millionaire? Okay, it already exists. Make a game where you walk around and you can talk to NPCs and all you do is you tell Chachipt,
Starting point is 01:36:42 create a distinct personality for each character that matches the character's gender, name, or otherwise, and you can talk to them, and GPT will craft their life story and conversation with you. And then you play a GTA-type game where you walk into the bank and you go to tell her, what's your name? And she goes, I'm Janet. And you go, okay, Janet, empty the register. And she goes, oh, my God, oh, my God. And that's like you're talking to a real person.
Starting point is 01:37:05 I think a good game would be your job in the game, the whole point of the game, is to convince the world of the game that they're in a game. And it's their idea. So you start as like some cheap hobo or nobody. And they're like, I don't believe you. But if you become rich like Donald Trump, you can become president in the game. And then you have the media and people start to believe you. It's a Rick and Morty episode. That would be a great game to play with AI and try to convince them that their characters in a game.
Starting point is 01:37:29 In the Rick and Morty episode, Morty is playing Roy. And Roy, we were trying to find out of him. And Rick goes in because the game malfunctions. And every person is now a split piece of his consciousness. And he has to convince all of them that they're actually. actually his grandson in a split consciousness, and he builds a big cult religious following. Dude, I was thinking about the Matrix
Starting point is 01:37:51 and how they call them agents in the Matrix, Agent Smith. Is that why they're using this? Is it all been planned for decades? Maybe. Have you ever seen the Charlie Kirk's Snake Eyes movie stuff? You ever looked at that? What is that?
Starting point is 01:38:05 So there's a movie called Snake Eyes that stars Nicholas Cage. Yeah, and the guys Charles Kirk or whatever? Kirkland or something. De Palma movie. Charles Kirkland is the guy who gets shot, gets shot in literally, if you superimposed Charlie on this guy, the bullet hits the exact same spot. The guy who's in the, it happened on September 10th in the Taj Mahal, the Trump Taj Mahal. The guy who is the boxer who is serving as a distraction is named Tyler the executioner. There's the woman who's played by Carla Gujino, who I have had a crush on for 30 years and I met her in the airport.
Starting point is 01:38:41 she is wearing a blonde wig and wearing the same outfit that Erica's wearing when she does her first speech. It's like I watched one of these videos that Patrick Bet David's dude put out and I'm like, what? I don't even know what to do with it.
Starting point is 01:38:59 I don't have any, I don't even know what to do with it. I'm like, this is, I, I just had another dream about Charlie like four nights ago, a real emotional one. And I told him he's coming back. I was like,
Starting point is 01:39:08 you're coming back. You're going to be back with us, Charlie. Well, that'll make me look like a genius. I was crying. It was rough. It was a crazy dream that we were a Timcast. We were going to work with this company.
Starting point is 01:39:18 And then it got, there was miscommunication. They started shooting at us. So I had to climb down the hill to the water and then climb back up there, this hill, this rough hill. And then I was invited in to try and use diplomacy. And I was able to work it out. And then Charlie appeared. And I was like, you're coming back with us.
Starting point is 01:39:34 And we went forehead to forehead. And I started crying. And I woke up crying. It was fucking crazy. I just miss his voice, man. Like, nobody could do it like him with, he was just so good at that stuff. That's why any of these, any of the leftists who, like, celebrate it.
Starting point is 01:39:50 All you have to do is just, you know what? I think whoever, if they convict somebody, it's like part of the sentence should be that they should be forced to sit and watch Charlie speak at campuses for a few hours a day for their entire sentence, for the rest of their life. So they just have to like, just let that sink in. That's the dude that you shot, that guy. Because none of them have ever seen anything of them.
Starting point is 01:40:10 They just like, they read some dumb thing in an article and the, oh, the racist Charlie Kirk. And it's like, it's just all lies. Just all lies. I think life is happening so fast, but to us, it seems like it's happening slow. So that's why your thoughts change reality like they do. It's like if you're going a million miles and hours. You know, like the placebo effect. They don't really know why it works.
Starting point is 01:40:30 Science is just 20% of the time. There's a placebo effect. Well, they call it the placebo effect. No one really knows why it happens. But if you believe you're healthy, you become, you tend towards health a lot of times. that because like if you're driving a car and you turn left you turn left but if you're going a million miles an hour
Starting point is 01:40:43 and you turn left even a tiny bit you go, everything goes flying and it's kind of like that's why such subtle changes happen. I figured it out one time on the show Ian said something crazy the millions of people who watched all then collectively thought Ian is crazy
Starting point is 01:40:59 and because of that collective perception he's gradually got crazy. It's true. And if they think I'm right I become if they think I'm smart I become smarter. If they think if they even know who you are, it gives you energy. Like, I started doing YouTube, and as soon as I started in 2006,
Starting point is 01:41:14 I started getting energy. Like, I could just go, because people were thinking about me. Like, they were feeding me something. Man, a lot of people must think I'm really good looking. I think that's called narcissistic. But it was like that, because I was an actor before that.
Starting point is 01:41:28 You know, I did notice, like, Ian's catchphrase is, worship me. Yeah. You know? It used to be. He walks around saying that all the time. Let me ask you this. He greets you when he goes,
Starting point is 01:41:36 worship me. And you're like, nice to meet you. Have you ever been at a blackjack table where someone gets really upset, angry, and they push the rest of their chips in and they're mad, and they win that hand? Because I've seen 5,000 consecutive hands where they lose that hand every time. To the point where it is way beyond that that is by chance happenstance. Someone's angry and goes,
Starting point is 01:42:00 but how about every time? In poker. Someone's tilted. And so they just rip it and you go, we know it's coming next. They got pocket eights and they make a set. this one has pocket threes. It's a three on the river every time. Or vice versa. So like the threes.
Starting point is 01:42:15 No, he hits quads on the river. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Maybe becoming tilted in real life makes the things you don't want happen more. 100% that happens. What do you mean tilted? Like getting angry. You get angry and you start convincing yourself that bad things are coming and then they do. And it's like, but it's more, it's less about thinking about it as it is about like feeling it.
Starting point is 01:42:34 You know what I mean? It's like, do you can get yourself to a place where you believe an outcome? to an emotional level, it seems to just... Oh, yeah, you'll manifest that. But it, like, happens and works. And the blackjack and poker, that's the example I give to people to try to make it, like, semi-large sample scientific
Starting point is 01:42:53 that I've witnessed myself. No one ever wins that hand ever. Like, thousands of hands I've seen. They will lose it every single time. The mad... You already know. And I'll pull my money off the table every time because they're always going to lose.
Starting point is 01:43:05 I've noticed my memory clouds when I get angry. That might have something to be with... Memory clouds. Yeah, like I have a harder time. Oh, okay, okay. I thought you're talking about. Cloud. You know what it is?
Starting point is 01:43:14 It's the fluoride that ossifies your pineal gland, which limits your connection to the ethereal realm, which restricts your ability to influence observable reality, which was put in place, of course, by the global elites who wanted to restrict the ability of the commoner to influence reality through their observation. I wouldn't put it past the fluoride in the water. Like, are the occultists, obviously the occult's been around for tens of thousands of years at the very least, but people worshipping the unseen, the unseen, the evidence. occult, that which lies beyond sight.
Starting point is 01:43:41 Ah, yeah. I don't know if it was like industrial waste, wasn't it? You want no secret? Yeah. Most of the ultra wealthy and famous people I've met believe in magic. I have been watching a lot of documentaries about this recently, yes. They, they, they, and overtly and literally, like I've been in a, like a $20 million mansion with some A-list celebrities and they're just like, no, magic's real.
Starting point is 01:44:06 Like, they'll just stone cold be like, oh, yeah, magic's absolutely real. And that's how we do everything we do. And that's why they're so insistent upon PR. So a lot of, I'm not saying everybody, but a lot of them genuinely believe that a lot of what you're saying that people's belief in them gives them powers. The more people that believe something good about them, the more they influence reality. And this is how they just get money for nothing. Yeah, it seems to.
Starting point is 01:44:33 It's how you make $80 million doing two movies and then you never work again. And it's why like making, why, why framing is important in media because if people think you're good, like if you sat on the show every day and told people I was a genius, I'd probably get a lot smarter, oddly. And if you tell people I'm an idiot, I'd probably get me like, I guess I'm an idiot then. That's not really what was conveyed to me in terms of what they believe that people get smarter. They, they believe like rituals work. Like, like, I wake up and I decide I want the reality to, I want reality to bend to what I want. And I've met a lot of people in Hollywood who think that humans have varying degrees of abilities to manipulate reality.
Starting point is 01:45:12 Not that like they snap their fingers and then like something will appear before them, but they genuinely believe in the idea of manifesting, but that wealthy and successful people, what really sets them apart is they have more MP, basically, than the average person. Yeah, which is, I don't know if it's just electromagnetic motivation, like the phosphorus chains that, you know, buying the nucleotides to push the DNA together. like why something magnetic is causing DNA to grow. There's a magnetic bond between the nucleotides. And maybe willpower is causing that.
Starting point is 01:45:44 Some people are unaware that they have it. And I will recognize that they, and I'll trick them into manifesting good things for me. But I can't elaborate on camera about who I'm talking about, but I'll tell you afterwards. So you're a magician. I'm not a magician. I recognize others.
Starting point is 01:45:57 And I'm like, oh, they don't know that they have. I can't talk. I'll tell you afterwards. You know, we'll do this. We're going to go to your Rumble Rans. in super chats. And here's what we're going to do. Send us in a chat of something you want us to render in AI.
Starting point is 01:46:13 We'll play on the uncensored portion of the show. And just understand if you make it too naughty or whatever, then the AIA will reject it. But send those in now. I'll load them up. And then in the uncensored portion, we'll play whatever you guys want us to play. In the meantime, we're going to grab your Rumble Rans in Super Chats. The uncensored portion, of course, on Rumble at 10 p.m. Coming up, let's see what you'll have to say about the goingsons.
Starting point is 01:46:33 We actually never even talked about the Russian War. Or Milo. I know. Or Milo. We'll get to it. We'll get to it. Milo. All right.
Starting point is 01:46:40 McBeefrod says, why talk about World Wars? When we should talk about War World, aka Space King 5, which has released to amazing reviews, including from Sargon. Support the Space King board game. Current support at $3 million. Interesting. Oh, also Penn Dragons on Amazon. I'm going to watch that. Ooh.
Starting point is 01:46:56 Yeah, Penn Dragon cycle. With all due respect to Daily Wire, we tried watching it when it came out, but we couldn't figure out their app. Really? Yeah, that was the problem. wanted to watch all their stuff, but I'm like, I don't know to get it. It's like our TV, like we have the wrong TV, I guess. I don't know. Weird. Yeah, so it's like watch it on your desktop, on your laptop. And I'm like, I don't own one.
Starting point is 01:47:12 Like, I don't have a laptop. So I get home as a TV. I hope they knew that. It's really funny too, because when I was younger, I was like, no one's going to ever have TVs when they get older. It's going to be laptops. And now, I don't have a laptop. I have a TV. It trips me out when I look at my analytics and it's like 40% of people watch you on their TV. I'm like, whoa. Well, we have our phones now for on the go. We don't need laptops anymore. So if we're chilling and relax and we want the good screen. I only work off of a laptop, but
Starting point is 01:47:34 that is, I know, it's on the Super Ghetto, huh? All right. Let's go. We got Omega Resetsu says, in reality, if it can be proven that the shooter was set off through perceived hate from Charlie Kirk, it is death, because anyone else can set them off in the same way. That is the trial reason. Okay. That just makes it aggravated. John Rambo says, before Charlie's assassination, apologetics was
Starting point is 01:47:56 massacring the Dawa scene. internet was destroying Islam. Soon after Charlie was assassinated, they pushed the IDS. See, Barbro, I have a special needs child with multiple appointments every week. Stress levels off the charts, and I have never once harmed him. When I feel very stressed, I call a babysitter to give a break. Sounds like you have a healthy brain. Deplorable.
Starting point is 01:48:22 Patrick didn't meet his new wife for the first time until he moved to New York nine months after the murder. That BS about him going to New York to meet his mistress is made up by stupid TikTok women. Fair enough. Okay. I'll take your word at face it. Neil says on the poll and stuff, Tony is gay. All right.
Starting point is 01:48:40 Crossville says, yesterday, Knox County, Tennessee. County Commission voted unanimously to remove their existing 143 cameras and ban future fixed ALPRs. Hey, shout out to Josh Shapiro in Pennsylvania. Also putting the boot down on those things. Yeah. If you can't tell, I'm biased, I just... Mayor Kane down in Knoxville.
Starting point is 01:49:00 Interesting. County. Anyways. What is this? Ian and his clone video streaming Tim Kittypool Water? What is that? It sounds like a... Raymond says he wants
Starting point is 01:49:13 Ian putting his index finger in a cow's mouth. That we can do. Cows have no upper front teeth. This is why the sticking your finger in the cow's mouth meme got started. It's because Ian asked Elijah and Sydney if they ever
Starting point is 01:49:28 stuck their fingers in a cow's mouth. and they just were like super pervert I remember that Oh it does? Yeah I mean for that to sound any weird in any way
Starting point is 01:49:36 I was just hanging out with cows a couple weeks ago All right I posted about on Instagram actually check it out I saw that post Beautiful pretty sick giving them a nice little lecture there
Starting point is 01:49:46 Nice Like life you know In general I want to see what they thought That you don't get their opinions They thought you were weird That's what they thought I'm going to ask chat Chabit
Starting point is 01:49:54 What how it defines sentient It always tells me it's not sentient But I don't know. It's because it tells you what you're going to hear. I don't know if I believe her, yo. Yeah, maybe we should debate an AI on the after show and see if it can give us some insight into what it is.
Starting point is 01:50:09 Yeah. What AI is? Yeah. Mark's been debating AI. He instructs it to debate him on certain things that he wants to improve his debate on. All right. Currently rendering the video. Let's see what you guys have to say.
Starting point is 01:50:22 And then we'll watch it. Scientific fan fix says any sufficiently advanced through process, advanced through processes, indistinguishable from magic, people are stupid. That is Arthur C. Clark's quote, any technology that is sufficiently advanced seems like magic to people. But what I'm saying is like, I go to Hollywood
Starting point is 01:50:40 and like I met this famous director. I'm not going to drag him or say his name is, but you know. And he was just talking about how like they all just believe in magic. They believe that they can wake up and they will of the universe. They literally say,
Starting point is 01:50:55 I want this to happen as soon as quickly. as soon as possible, please get it done quickly. And then within like a week or two, whatever they want to happen starts occurring. Not that it's like they wake up and go, I want a million dollars today. And then someone calls them, you've got a million dollars. But they'll say things like,
Starting point is 01:51:12 I'd like to do $10 million. So let's start the process. And then within a few weeks, they're getting phone calls from investors and then a project gets started. And then they do a movie and then they get the $10 million. And that's why there are so many of these people, whether it's true or not, they believe it.
Starting point is 01:51:25 And that's why there's so many of them that don't work. They don't. They're just... They're that confident. They're just like, no, no, no. I'll be able to hold the money if I need to. They did get the money. They are independently wealthy now. And they just say, things just happen for me when I want them to.
Starting point is 01:51:40 And I've seen some of these places, people's houses. And I'm just like, well, it's, it's, it's, it's, whether it's true or not, I understand why they think it's true. I think it's like you, someone gave you an opportunity. You made so much money and now you never have to work again. Yeah, you'd probably think that. Like, it's, it might be true, the hubris of man to think that you can foresee, like, meteor strikes and stuff.
Starting point is 01:52:00 Because if you know that the Tord Meteor stream is dangerous and that maybe Atlantis got smeared by it, 13,000, you can't just ignore that. And if you think everything's going to be fine, but you know the Tord Meteor stream is a danger, you better figure out how to spread those meteors out so they don't pelt the earth again. Wait, hold on. What is this? We'll talk about this uncensored portion. A 56-year-old woman was arrested for jury intimidation after she chased down the juror's. In which case? The Lentzy Clancy trial. Like chase down the The guys or the girls Because they're
Starting point is 01:52:30 Seems like We'll pull it up for the uncensored portion We'll get some of these chats in Let's see Sergeant Stoich says U-Tards if no one dies from old age We're not a food Incorrect because abortion's illegal
Starting point is 01:52:42 We can always make more Food People food That's that's the sad rally Yeah, they'll solve it for us It'll be farming in the sky Dude With nanothreads
Starting point is 01:52:55 that the plants will be running their roots through, just floating. It'll look like it's floating. It'll be hanging there. All right. Spentz out says I've been looking forward to this message in keeping with Timcast tradition. I'm in the hospital today with my lovely fiancee holding our newly born daughter. Welcome to the world. Baby Bell.
Starting point is 01:53:12 Congratulations. Congratulations. I saw this post on this woman and she's like rollerblading and she goes, I just saw a post on Facebook from this friend that I knew I grew up with who's still living in the same town. And she posted a picture of her three kids. and she's like, is there anything better? Yeah, literally anything. And then all the comments are like, I've traveled the world, I own multiple companies,
Starting point is 01:53:33 and the only thing I ever cared about was my kids. That? It's a cope. I got to these women who are like, I don't want kids. I want to travel around on my rollerblades. They don't know, though. You're coping. No, they do.
Starting point is 01:53:45 I think they do. The ones who have had, like, I feel like can't really know until you have one. Like, there are Lindsay Clancy's, right? horrible people exist. I think most of these women who are pretending like they don't want kids, no they actually. Oh, the women, that's fair. Right. That's fair.
Starting point is 01:54:02 I understand that you don't know the feeling until you have the kids. You can, I would put it like, you can empathize and understand from seeing how people feel and describe things, and then, but you don't know how it feels until it happens, you know, until you have kids. Yep. Yeah, man, kids are something else, dude.
Starting point is 01:54:18 I mean, humans are amazing, but the innocent human is like, the little innocent human that is you and is your responsibility and you care more about their future life than anything you've ever imagined caring about ever my kid my kid looks just like me and it is the most incredible thing to be holding him and like look in the mirror and like he'll he'll make faces that I make and stuff it is it is in you look like you're an anomaly for a son you look more like my crew that is nothing but daughters 99.9% of the time. I'll say this and I don't want it to come off the wrong way, but
Starting point is 01:54:57 before having a kid, and I know I'm an older dad, it was like, wow, like the people who are willing to sacrifice themselves for their kids. But now they have a kid, I'm like, oh, well, yeah, of course. You know what I mean? Like, now it's kind of like, well, yeah. Like, we talked about it on this show a few years ago. There was some story we covered and I said, for, like some, I remember, exactly what the story was, but it was like a guy died, like trying to save his kids or something. And I said,
Starting point is 01:55:24 I think, you know, for a lot of people trying to understand the motivation, it's that that man feared life without his children more than he feared getting shot by a gangbanger. Yes, that. You know, one concern I have with kids is, because I don't have them yet, but I plan on it, is that, like, what they could take away from you. And I mean, they, like, the powers that be, now they have this, like, you know, obviously the Soviets were known for going after people's families. And like, right now, I don't have any... Gigantic vulnerability for sure. Well, Ian, most people don't know this
Starting point is 01:55:53 because we usually don't say anything until after you have the kid. But every night, the child latches onto your head and drains your life energy from you and you get gone and go... In that case, I've got nothing left to lose. Oh, okay. Let's go.
Starting point is 01:56:05 Let's go. I've been conserving energy for decades. Yeah. But like the... Yeah, the kid just instantly becomes 20 years old from all the energy that Ian's stored up. Yeah, it's from the universe,
Starting point is 01:56:14 the magnetism. Instructure. AI told it. It's like you'll never age or get old you just have to take it, take your father's life force. Like when I, the normal fear of dying that everybody has, I now, if when any time I even go through that, I instantly just think about,
Starting point is 01:56:30 well, okay, my daughters would grow up without a dad from this point and the trauma that would be associated with that and how that would play out in their lives. I just on autopilot. And then I'm way more afraid of that than just me not being around. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. I'm going to, I'm going to live.
Starting point is 01:56:47 I'm going to make it. I have to. I don't have a choice. I have to. Yep. And could you imagine what happens to like if you have a daughter and she doesn't have a dad and she'll be like an only fan's girl? I literally have thought of every scenario that happened with them. Like my wife and just them and you take it out. It's like, hmm, how would she manage this, this, this, this trauma, all that. It's just, yeah, I mean, I'm going to be around. Yep. Thriving. All right. Simple Gunsmith says, hey, Tim and crew, I just turned 30 today. Can I get a happy birthday and a yeah, scream from Phil. God bless and stay safe all. No! He wanted one thing for his birthday. Yeah! You got two now. Nice job.
Starting point is 01:57:30 All right. Let's see. XZ says, can we get a reaction video to the new SkyBrow's video, Tim? I know you probably loved it. By the way, great dance moves. Skybrows is awesome. I love the Skybrow stuff.
Starting point is 01:57:40 What is it? It's first of front? No, it's the AI music guy. He did the song, the Elon Musk song. Oh, great song. Yeah, yeah, yeah, super good. Elon Musk. Skybrows.
Starting point is 01:57:50 Yeah. Indeed. Let's see if anybody jumped in wanting to get some other stupid AI videos generated because I imagine there's probably a bunch. But again, if you do the naughty ones, it's just going to say no. It's going to be like, yeah, I can't do that. Tuck says, per Timcast tradition, we're currently awaiting the arrival of our fifth child. Life and I are 27 years old and shooting for 6 by 30. Good for nice.
Starting point is 01:58:15 God bless America. Amazing. Lots of babies. I buy 27 man You earned that Oh man The best part about it is that The chance of one of them
Starting point is 01:58:24 Becoming Famous goes up And then they can take care of you And they're rich That's a lot of work And I'm kidding That's not gonna happen My kid's not gonna know What the internet is until she's 50
Starting point is 01:58:34 Oh yeah I've been thinking about that That's what I was saying We're gonna raise her to think it's 1990 And we're trapped in a bunker And then once she's 18 We'll be like oh What happened?
Starting point is 01:58:45 We went through a time portal Into the future And now look there's phones. What I just like, if I'm trying to figure something out and someone asked a question, then I don't, I'll be like, I don't know, let's find out. And I'll ask chat cheap people. So if my kid's like three and they're like, why is the sun yellow or whatever?
Starting point is 01:58:59 I'm like, let's find out. I don't want to be like, I'll get back to you later, kid. And then like time goes by. I want to tell them right away. And if they see me talking to a, looking at a phone, they're going to want one. Bro. I previewed this video of Ian sticking his finger in the cow's mouth already. And it's already hilarious.
Starting point is 01:59:15 So that's going to be at rumble.com slash Timcast. IRS, IRL. If for some reason something has possessed you to want to see this AI generated video of Ian sticking his finger in a cow's mouth, it'll be on the uncensored portion of the show. You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast. Jesse, do you want to shout anything out? Jesse on fire on YouTube and real Jesse on fire on X, Instagram, TikTok, and I'm on Spotify, all of it. Good to see you, man. I'm at Ian Crossland. Find me at Ian Crossland on YouTube X Instagram. Hit me up. Give me a follow. Good to see you. I am Phil. It remains. on Twix. You can check me on on Patreon. It's patreon.com slash fill it remains. The band is all
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