Timcast IRL - SCOTUS COMPROMISED By Leftist Death Threats Data Proves w/ Craig Skistimas

Episode Date: July 15, 2026

Tim, Phil and Brett are joined by Craig Skistimas to discuss Amy Coney Barrett compromised by the left, Trump will expose 2020  election fraud, people are cutting down flock cameras, and people are e...mbracing AI in music and movies.  SUPPORT THE SHOW BUY CAST BREW COFFEE NOW - https://castbrew.com/ GET OUR MERCH - https://merch.timcast.com/ Join - https://timcast.com/discord Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere) | https://www.shoutout.fans/timpool Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) | https://allthatremains.komi.io/ Brett  @brettdasovic  (X) |  @PopCultureCrisis  (everywhere) Producer: Carter @carterbanks (X) |  @trashhouserecords  (YT) Guest:  Craig Skistimas @StutteringCraig (X)  @SideScrollersPodcast  (YT) Podcast available on all podcast platforms! SCOTUS COMPROMISED By Leftist Death Threats Data Proves | Timcast IRL For advertising inquiries please email sponsorships@rumble.com

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Several Supreme Court justices testified before Congress today about the need for more security. They want to add cybersecurity. They've already got something like eight or nine security officers. And Amy Coney Barrett went on to explain her son opening the door to a wall of police after she had been swatted. And the interesting thing here, it wasn't just Coney Barrett, is Kagan as well, talking about the death threats they are receiving for the rulings that they're creating or that they're issuing. And the funny thing is, somebody to break down of Amy Coney Barrett's opinions before he's. Dobbs and after, and you can see that after Dobbs, she goes full moderate. She was a conservative, this decision happens, and then she pulls far to the left. Why? After Dobbs, there was a, well, before Dobbs, there was a leak, death threats, fences were put up. And we talked about this
Starting point is 00:00:49 last week, the week before that. I would argue that our opinions are paradoxical. She's arguing against herself in some circumstances, and it seems like she is terrified to issue the rulings that need to be issued because of these death threats. And I'm going to be honest, I'm not trying to rag on the Supreme Court justice here. She said her child opened the front door of her house and saw a wall of cops in a swatting. She must have been terrified. She tells a story where she had to explain to her 12-year-old son what a bulletproof vest was, because apparently he's been so sheltered, he's never played Fortnite or Call of Duty or any other video game like GTA and didn't know what a bulletproof vest was.
Starting point is 00:01:26 I don't believe for her, but I will say this. If it is true that her kid didn't know what a bulletproof vest was, she has those kids very sheltered. So it must be very, very terrifying when people are trying to murder you and your colleagues. I can only suspect then, as we've already talked about on this show, that when her opinions start shifting and contradicting themselves, she's doing it because she's terrified. The left will kill her.
Starting point is 00:01:50 Now, the funny thing is, guys, it's riot season. There ain't no riots. Where'd they at? You can say that after USAID was shut down, the riots just stopped, which is kind of true and weird. But many are arguing it's because the left has found victories in other ways. Notably with these death threats and with the attacks on ICE facilities, they are now, it is being reported by Daily Wire. ICE has been instructed they can no longer pull vehicles over, which is the principal method by which they are deporting these criminal illegal migrants. And of course, the death threats against the sitting Supreme Court justice, her opinions have markedly shifted to the left.
Starting point is 00:02:26 following the assassination attempt on Brett Kavanaugh. Some would argue the left might actually be winning. But we'll see. Trump's got a big announcement coming up on Thursday. He was asked about it. Nobody knows exactly what it is. The rumors are it's going to be an election fraud. And he said it's big news, possibly the biggest news,
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Starting point is 00:05:11 But don't forget to also smash that like button. Share the show with everyone you know, subscribe to this channel. Leave us a good review if you're listening on a podcast platform. Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more, we have Craig Skistamis. Hey, how's it going? That's me. I run a podcast called Side Scrollers, and we are live Monday through Friday at 11 a.m. Central Time talking games, entertainment, and life for the normal man. Right on. Well, good to have you. Thanks for joining us. We're the boys hanging out. Guys, what's going on? It's been a while. It's Brett, normally doing PCC Monday through Friday at 3 p.m. Eastern Standard Time, but I'm glad to be here. Phil. How are you doing?
Starting point is 00:05:44 What's up, everybody? I'm Philobonti, singer, the heavy metal band, all that remains. Carter, what's going on? What's up, everyone? Carter Banks here, doing the buttons and sound live. And let's get a, let's get a. into it. Here's the story from Lone Star Legend. Now, we saw Amy Coney-Barritt testified today that she's terrified for the safety of her family, but check this out first. This is the context. Amy Coney-Barratt's conservative voting record before and after Dobbs v. Jackson's Women's Health. This is the Roe v. Wade case. Pre-Dobbs, you can see that she was siding almost entirely with the conservative wing of the court. 81% of the time in October of, in the Supreme Court term. In 2021, 81%. After Dobbs, it drops down to 59%, 57, and as of 2024, 50%, meaning she's gone fully
Starting point is 00:06:34 just straight down the middle. Now, the one thing that we noticed in these recent rulings is that she seems to contradict herself, not just her, but the court itself is strange. For instance, they ruled Donald Trump could not fire the head of the Federal Reserve because it's an independent agency, but then they also ruled that Donald Trump could fire the head of any independent agency in a separate case, which makes literally no sense, unless the Federal Reserve is some kind of special entity that operates outside the law, I guess. Where's Ian when you need him? Where's Ian?
Starting point is 00:07:00 But there are other issues as well, and you can see it plain as day. I need to go through every single ruling. But on the issue of the 14th Amendment, her arguments, at least in my opinion, her opinion that she issued seemed to make no sense, arguing that there was fear back in the 1800s, that without a set day for the election, it could lead to a second civil war. Indeed, my friends, in 1872, we were on the verge of the Civil War breaking out again. In 1876, a committee decided who would be president. There were concerns that because elections were being held randomly or just different times in different states,
Starting point is 00:07:32 you could exploit the time or day of an election to make sure certain voting blocks would not come out. For instance, if you don't want farmers to vote, you say election day is the day of harvest or one of the most important times of harvest. So the farmers are going to say, are you kidding? We're working 24-7. We can't vote now. So Congress ultimately ends up passing a law to which she acknowledged, but then said, so what, who cares? It seemed like she was arguing against herself, probably because after the Dobbs decision, before and after, you had massive death threats. You had someone trying to assassinate Brett Kavanaugh.
Starting point is 00:08:06 And then we get this, Amy Coney-Barrick, giving emotional testimony about the moment her son saw her bulletproof vest. Thank you, Justice Kagan. This year and those. Microphone, please. Good? Yes. And those statistics sound abstract, but being on the receiving end of them is not. So I thought I would just share a little bit about how the threats have affected me and my family personally.
Starting point is 00:08:30 They have required me to, my children, to think about and see things that children should not have to see or think about. One example is when threats to my life were particularly intense a few years ago around the time of the Dobbs leak. My security detail sent me home with a bulletproof vest, and I carried it into my house. house, put it into my bedroom, dropped it down on a table, turned around and my 12-year-old son was standing in the doorway of my bedroom. And he wanted to know what it was and why I had it. And I didn't know how to respond because maybe I lack imagination, but I didn't expect that performing this service was going to put me in the position of explaining to my children what a bulletproof vest was and why I had to wear one.
Starting point is 00:09:12 Ma'am, if your 12-year-old son did not know what a bulletproof vest was, then you must keep him locked in the basement or under a rock. I'm sure he's seen John Wick. I'm sure he's played Fortnite or Call of Duty or Grand Theft Auto or literally watched any movie ever at any point. The ignorance of that statement, though, the idea that she would say, I just didn't know the gravity of being a justice on the Supreme Court. I didn't think that people would be really upset. I agree. If you don't, you know, if you can't handle the heat, you get out of the kitchen, right?
Starting point is 00:09:41 She was after Kavanaugh, right? She was an appointment after Kavanaugh, right? Yeah. Yeah, and I don't mean to be mean or dismissive or rude. I understand, like, we had someone drive by and shoot at this property, too. I fully understand the threats. Bro, let me tell you a crazy story. Y'all know I was just spending last week at the World Series of Poker.
Starting point is 00:10:01 One of the pros that played published a story, he said that after he cashed out, because he had something like $80,000 in prizes, he went back to his Airbnb, said two black dudes were waiting for him. They knew they were tracking him, hog tied him, stole all of his stuff. And that's just, that's just. But guys got a thousand followers. Nobody knows who he is outside of the poker world. It's not a very big world.
Starting point is 00:10:22 I fully recognize. You know, I have two bodyguards with me all the time walking around. And I'm not going to explain the degree of security that they're, you know, but let's just say they are very capable individuals. And then I've also got my posse, you know, because you've got to have a posse, right? I'm half kidding. But the reason why celebrities walk around with big groups of people, it's not always just because they're rich and their friends cling to their asses.
Starting point is 00:10:42 It's because my friends are also de facto security. We're a big group. We're not going to get screwed around with. I understand being in this line of work is dangerous. Amy Coney-Barritt, if you think the threat is too great and you are issuing rulings that are tepid, weak, and bad for this country, you need to resign right now for the safety and sake of your children. I'm not on the Supreme Court, and I got bulletproof fast and I got plates and stuff.
Starting point is 00:11:10 I host a podcast about video games, and I get death threats on the day-to-day basis because I know what a man is. Like, we... That's forbidden knowledge on the internet. You can't actually know those things. And this is, listen, I get what she's going through here. We have tried to plan events for our company multiple times. But the reality is that whenever we try to produce any sort of event, anywhere in the world,
Starting point is 00:11:36 anywhere in the United States, we have to account for way more security than a traditional event would because of silliness like that. You know, and I mean, I just go back to that statement. Yeah, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the Fortnite thing and the body armor thing, that's insane, right? But the fact that she being, she was naive at the idea of being a Supreme Court justice wasn't going to be, there weren't going to be threats associated with that. But it didn't used to be. But it goes to show that she has not been paying attention. And I'm just, you know, I get, I get headaches from this.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Because I'm like, I'm the, I'm the civil war guy. You know what I mean? Always screaming, like, things are getting crazy. and, you know, as if right now, I'd argue, I don't exactly know where things are going because it looks like the crushing of USAID may have been, like, the right may have routed the left infrastructure degree where they're getting pushed back to an insane degree, like where the riots at. But that being said, for her, to look at the Dobbs decision, the leak, they put offenses around the Supreme Court, they're banging and screaming during Kavanaugh's confirmation hearings, and she's not even Googling it. that's offensive to me. Like, she knew exactly what they did to Kavanaugh in terms of accusing them of being a gang rapist
Starting point is 00:12:48 as well as trying to bang the door, bash the doors down. And then with the Dobbs decision, she's like, oh, heavens me, I'm so shocked this is happening. What was she, like, a prosecutor before she took the bench? What did she do before that? I thought she was a federal judge, right? I think she was a judge. So, like, she worked in law, then she went on to be a judge.
Starting point is 00:13:04 I mean, my guess is that she was very career-minded, and this is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity that so few people get, that she underestimated just how much security and how dangerous it was going to be. Being a federal judge is in exactly a safe position. You're not immune to violence. She was on the Seventh Circuit for U.S. Court of Appeals
Starting point is 00:13:22 from 2017 to 2020. And prior to that, she was a law professor at Notre Dame. And now it's, look, we've talked about it with all of her rulings. In the past couple of years, she may as well be a liberal. And we're left flabbergasted. What did we say two weeks ago? she got swatted in May and then issues these placid, moderate rulings with the most pathetic of opinions that she may as well have not even issued an opinion at all and contradicts herself
Starting point is 00:13:48 and I'm like clearly getting swatted has her shaken in her eye heels. Look, I'm not trying to be mean. If my, if, you know, my child is not even that old, but I could not imagine your 12 year old child opening the door to a wall of police, probably screaming hands in the air, this kid freaking out. And we've heard stories. There was that one story, I think it was like Oklahoma or whatever where a guy got swatted, opens his door with his gun in his hand, they shoot and kill him. Yeah. There was another story I saw where cops were responding to a domestic, and they're banging on the door, and they're at the wrong house. So they're just banging on the door. It's two guys.
Starting point is 00:14:23 There's no lights and nothing. Bang this guy's door like 3 a.m. He opens the door with his gun in his hand, and they unload on him. Innocent guy at his own house. So what is she thinking right now? even if the left doesn't come to actually try and assassinate or anything like that, how many more times will she get swatted? What can she do? Yeah. So they're here now asking for an increase in security. And, you know, look, man, I'm sorry, she should resign. It's untenable. Like, if it's, if it's that bad now, it's only going to get worse. It's not like it's something, like you could make the argument that maybe when her kids are old enough
Starting point is 00:14:56 to move out of the house, maybe she has a little bit more of a laissez-faire attitude towards it when it's just her and her her husband, but doubtful, right? So it's only going to get worse. Yeah. And, I mean, there are, there aren't any, any actual cases that I'm aware of that are as volatile as Dobbs. And she kind of ducked the 14th Amendment question that was here. There is, there is the, the rifle ban that'll come up next year.
Starting point is 00:15:25 But I don't think that that would set anyone off the way that the, the Dobbs decision did. So, you know, but that doesn't mean that something couldn't present itself, you know. Isn't it amazing, though, to see whenever there's going to be a ruling and you know which way it's going to go based off of whether the fences up or not? Yeah, right. That really says a lot about this. And also, it's interesting that she would be demanding more security while there being less security in the United States, you know, for people coming in and vote. It's amazing to see.
Starting point is 00:15:55 Yeah. I mean, everybody has to see the hypocrisy on this. Yeah. I mean, the whole idea of her needing or requesting more security, I don't think that that actually is going to have any kind of effect on her voting, right? Like just because she has more security doesn't mean that she's going to be like, oh, now I feel it at ease to vote my conscience or vote what I actually think the law says. I think that this is, she probably wants more security for her family and stuff. But if she still knows that if she were to vote in a way that inflamed the left, then they would still. make a target of her. And even if you have
Starting point is 00:16:30 security, like it doesn't make you immune to intimidation. It doesn't make you immune to attack. There have been a lot of people who have had security that are no longer with us. Yeah. I mean, case and point, just I think it was yesterday, was the two year anniversary of the attack in Butler, Pennsylvania.
Starting point is 00:16:46 And someone almost almost shot Donald Trump. And he has, you know, what arguably the best security in the world. Until they don't want to be. Well, like I said, I mean, there was that one lady, one seriously. You know, the problem ultimately is trying to be this middle of the road, please leave me alone, makes everyone hate you. Yeah. So she hasn't got to come out and scream, you know, tradcon revolution and start rubber stamping every, you know, right-wing policy and screeching the laughing. But she can be reasonable and correct and just say, look, you know, if, as that chart showed, 81% of the time, she was the conservatives. And that was acceptable. Most people are like, okay,
Starting point is 00:17:28 like you're not going to win every single one and you get upset about some. But when she's playing this 50-50 in the middle of the road, the left hates her. They're not going to stop. She, like, that's just it. They're not going to stop. And now she'll have no support because this is what people do. And it's so pathetic. They play this game of I'm just going to duck and keep my head down and maybe it'll go away.
Starting point is 00:17:47 No, what you're basically saying is the left is never going to stop. And you also don't want to have a support group behind you who agrees with you and would protect you. So, okay, you should resign. She should resign. But you know what? It's not going to happen. Nothing's going to happen. We're going to get these weak people. This is, this is, you know, I said if Donald Trump doesn't do something about the elections and the corruption, he's Buchanan. But our whole government is full of Buchanan's. We got like 89% Buchanons and very few Lincans. Clarence Thomas is a Lincoln. You know, he's a guy who's like, we're going to do what's got to get an Alito as well.
Starting point is 00:18:21 Trump, I would argue that the, you know, the verdict's out on Trump. We'll see what he says Thursday. but I will respect his bringing in Bill Palti, so he's doing more than nothing. And getting rid of USAID was a nuclear bomb in this culture war. So I got to give him that. Do you think that's why there have been no riots? Yeah, actually, yeah, I do. Soros is busy right now.
Starting point is 00:18:40 It's not about Soros, that USAID was funneling money. Where was all this money coming from? I would not be surprised. Look, it's just kind of weird that USAID goes tits up, and now there's no riots for the first time in what, 20 years? I've been involved in protests going back to 2006. with George, with W. Bush. Every single summer, there were protests.
Starting point is 00:19:01 Now there's just none? What happened? Is there a story this summer specifically that you felt was really going to lead to riots that didn't? Is it the stuff with ICE mostly? Just the guy that got killed yesterday? Well, we've had, yeah, we've had more than one, multiple. And we got these little bitty protests.
Starting point is 00:19:18 Where's the national rising up? And people like, it's too hot out. It's not hot in Los Angeles. It's 69 degrees. That's a major urban center. Here are the protests. I don't believe that too hot is a thing. Like, they go out at night.
Starting point is 00:19:32 Too cold. Too cold, definitely. And look what happened earlier this year, right? I imagine there was still residual money left over. And, you know, you had people out in Minnesota in the freezing cold. Like, real freezing cold. Oh, yeah. And there's just no appetite for it now.
Starting point is 00:19:48 And I tend to agree with Tim. He put something in the slack today. And that was my first question. I was like, do you think that it's because of USAID? you know, if they don't have the funding to bus people in, because Tim's talked about tourists, but it's not even about that. It's about organizing. It's about making a flyer and saying, hey, come here at this time. Having it ready to go when it's time to use it immediately right then. So here's the thing. I've heard for decades where they're like Soros-funded protesters,
Starting point is 00:20:14 and these protesters don't get paid. However, there's like seven people who do, who put the flyers up the universities, who go on social media, who go around and tell everybody to show up, and then people start showing up. But without those organizers, nobody shows up because ain't nothing to show up to. Yeah. You know, you know.
Starting point is 00:20:32 Bad economy, all of the pallet of brick companies are just not a business. Amazing how many bricks just showed up on the side of the road during the summer I love. Back to Barrett real quick. I don't think anybody would really be upset if she was to say,
Starting point is 00:20:43 look, this was too much for me. I did not. If she just was totally honest about it and said, I did not anticipate this and this is too much for me, I don't think anybody would falter. Be like, look, okay, cool. Just step out of the way, let the next person pop in. Yeah, I agree.
Starting point is 00:20:58 I think it's totally... It would also shine a light on where they think the violence is coming from, which a lot of people are still in denial about. Yeah, I think you're right about the denial. I don't think that they're... I think that you're right about the denial, but I don't think that her resigning would give anyone any more information. I think the people that believe that, you know, she's intimidated, they know that it's not, you know, right-wingers doing it. Everyone knows that it's not people on the right that are intimidating or there's been no
Starting point is 00:21:27 consequential. Or the, or you know, Kagan's here too being like, well, I also get there. It's like, oh, shut up. It's just, it's so fake. You look at the violence that we get politically and it's always leftists. Yeah. What just happened in Maine, a bunch of leftist attacked a journalist? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:44 And it's like on the news and they're like journalists attacked by leftists. Like, yeah, okay. Well, it's like not even news anymore because it's just the given. Kagan's saying that reminds me of AOC saying it. It's like she does have, you know, she's. security concerns, but it's not really, it's not about politics. It's mostly like dudes that are creepy and weird
Starting point is 00:21:59 that are, you know, making remarks about AOC. People like Alex Stein that are more, you know, more they're offended by something. Energetic, yeah, exactly. So I don't think that, I mean, I would like to see
Starting point is 00:22:14 if what we're discussing here happens to be the case, I would like to see her step down, but I don't see that happening. The appointment of the SCOTUS as a lifetime appointment. She's not going to. She'll just ride the middle. Yeah, she's going to try and just do the least amount possible.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Yeah. Say nothing and just hide. Yeah. She should resign. Well, let's jump to this next story. We got this from CNBC. Trump to claim declassified Intel reveals 2020 election interference according to MS now. It's funny because, you know, we love MS now.
Starting point is 00:22:49 Trump plans to claim in a speech Thursday that newly declassified intelligence reports reveal a foreign nation's plans to interfere in the 2020 presidential election. CIA director John Ratcliffe, acting DNI Bill Pulte, Cash Patel, and Mark Wayne Mullen will join Trump, according to MS Now. Trump earlier said he will make a speech to the nation on Thursday evening at 9 p.m. Eastern without providing further details. And of course, MS now is losing their minds. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:23:16 Trump officials, Reuters, Trump officials sought ways to sidestep election agency before firings. Oh boy, here it comes. now Trump election task force to begin releasing classified intel documents, the election that never ends inside Trump Trump world's endless relitigating of 2020, and FBI analysts fired after refusing to to join Georgia 2020 election probe. The rumors that we're hearing is that he's going to claim Ossoff and Warnock are illegitimate senators. If that's the case, if Trump is going to claim at all that our elections have been illegitimate, what's he going to do about it? Is he going to suspend
Starting point is 00:23:48 the midterms? Is he going to issue an executive order on elections, which would, will get tossed out of the courts in two seconds. What? I think, honestly, he's going to go on TV. He's going to say, it's really bad, bad for our country. Our elections are fraud. Thank you, goodbye. And nothing happens. I agree. Which just makes people more angry because it's like you can identify the problem, but you can't do anything about it.
Starting point is 00:24:06 What do you want me to do with that? Right. Well, Georgia, even if he had won Georgia, it still wouldn't assuade the election. And I think the most fascinating thing about this is the idea that, you know, the narrative behind this is there was no, there was no election interference. Well, there wasn't mass election interference. but I don't know, maybe it's just me, but the idea of having any sort of interference or any sort of, you know, corruption in your election process is a bad thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:30 You know, I'm just a normal guy. That's all. And it just seems really kind of kooky to me. Yeah. I mean, look, the situation, I think that this, the situation in California has really shed light on the problems with the elections that are going on. And the fact that technically in California, I think the only thing that was actually. illegal that they found was the was people paying homeless people to vote now i mean you can there's plenty of homeless people in in california that you can give a buck or two to to to have them vote
Starting point is 00:25:01 um but the this kind of thing now has become more um something that more people are are aware of i think and and actually are concerned with and hopefully uh the evidence that that donald trump says that he has hopefully he can actually produce something that is compelling to the american people and then I mean, I say that people will demand it, but I mean, 80% of the American people want the Save Act and Congress won't do anything about it. So it does really, I totally understand where you come from. It does feel like, well, I guess we can't do anything about it, you know. Best you can have is daylight savings time. That's all you get. You know, what would really be awesome is if he came on and he said, look, you know, we're going to make these guys resign or
Starting point is 00:25:41 they have to resign. Because here's the thing, right? They're just the faces of this, right? They didn't, you know, unless there was some sort of direct line to them saying, hey, we're going to, you know, cause this fraudulent activity or whatever, right? But if he was to actually point out and say, this person's going to jail and give you a list of eight people that are actually going to have punishment for this, okay, I'm on board of that, right? Set a precedent for what's moving ahead. If you mess with our elections, right, there will be consequences.
Starting point is 00:26:09 And because, you know, it's just such a simple process that I just, my brain does not wrap around, the idea that people don't want this idea of votes counting fairly? Well, that's the thing. That's the point that I just make it is it's the American people do want that. I think it's 80% of the American population thinks, yes, you should require ID to vote, and Congress won't vote on it. The Senate won't actually hear it. Congress has passed it.
Starting point is 00:26:34 The Senate won't hear it. Well, you know, in recent times, I've realized that what really matters in politics is just saying the thing that the machine state will promote. So instead of actually having any integrity, like many of, of these other podcasters. I've decided just to say whatever they want me to say. And that is Trump is bad. He should not do this. Democrats have never done anything wrong at any point ever. And Hillary Clinton should be president in 2028. Good for you, Tim. Good for you. I'm really bravely you. That's great. Yeah. It takes a lot of bravery to say Hillary Clinton should be president.
Starting point is 00:27:03 It's good. You know, it was it was tough, but we got there. No, in all seriousness, I'm sitting here and just in my mind, I'm visualizing, you know, Donald Trump going on TV and being. like at this moment we are deploying federal agents to arrest all of the Democrats and then it's just perp walks of all these democratic you know not necessarily politicians but like you know election officials and it's not going to happen it's not what I mean when I when we make the joke about nothing ever changes or nothing you know nothing ever nothing's ever different it's the idea that what people want is the movie version of something changing right they want somebody perp walked out of a building that they can watch on TV that makes it feel like they're
Starting point is 00:27:45 the completion of a story with the good guys winning. Sort of. Not real. But they did know it, it is. They did it to Trump and they did it to Roger Stone and they did Steve Bannon and they did Peter Navarro. And for the love of all that is wholly, we're asking for one, one time, one time. One of these people is held accountable. And it just never happens. Trump's going to come out on Thursday and is going to be like, so Roger Stone had his home raided at five in the morning and CNN was tipped off and Steve Bannon went to jail and Peter Navarro went to jail and they harassed Michael Flynn endlessly. They put me in, they arrested
Starting point is 00:28:14 me twice. They arrested my lawyers. And so we're upset. Thank you. Goodbye. And we're going to be like, this is why I feel like so many people just don't care anymore. One of the reasons. Because you can only bash someone over and over again screaming like, look at all of the corruption and nothing ever happens. And I just got to say this, the left
Starting point is 00:28:33 is fully cognizant that they have been rioting, that they have killed, that they will likely kill again, that they arrested Trump's lawyers, accused them of fraud, tried putting him in prison, sued to make it so he could not run for office and they've done all these things and they go, but we have never done anything. And the Republicans is that they're going, well, you know, it's bad, I guess, dread. It's too bad. Nothing will ever change. And if that's the case, what are we doing here? And why aren't we just,
Starting point is 00:28:58 I don't know, ordering pizza kicking back and watching the World Cup? The most demoralizing part is that it's with a supermajority. If you can't get anything done with the super majority, how do you expect anymore? It's not a supermajority. It's a trifecta. Yeah. So we barely have Congress. And Amy Connie Barrett shaking, terrified, begging, please don't hurt me. I can't do this job. I'm scared. And Donald Trump bless his 80-year-old heart. I do think he's trying. Bill Pulte is coming out like a bulldog, and I really appreciate it. Bill's fantastic. Man, when they announced that he was coming in, I was stoked because we might actually see some movement now, finally get someone who's got the Cajones. I don't know what happened to Pulte. I mean, listen, he's a rich guy.
Starting point is 00:29:41 He ain't got nothing to worry about. I got my wife and I hung out with him. He's a cool. dude. We hung out of Marlau. We had a great time. For what reason would a guy so well off and successful need to stick his neck out in the way that he's been doing other than he means business? And he believes in it. And I love it. And you don't have that
Starting point is 00:29:58 with most of these people. Now to be fair, Blanche is doing great. I'm surprised. Mark Wayne Mullen coming out the gate doing well. I want to see more. And Pulte just charging full speed. You know, I would equate Bill Pulte to like starting a UFC match with a charging flying roundhouse that you leap at your
Starting point is 00:30:14 opponent and then we'll just leave it there. I hope it works out. One of the reasons why they're fighting so hard to prevent Paramount from owning Warner Brothers right now. It's got nothing to do with the movies and it's got everything to do with CNN, right? Because one of the reasons why conservatives struggle in these
Starting point is 00:30:30 situations is it becomes a full-on media onslaught every time they try to do anything of any note and they get a lot of pushback in the traditional press and that still bothers them to an extent whereas when the left goes out and acts awful, They get their pushback from Fox News, and yes, from podcasters,
Starting point is 00:30:48 but it doesn't create the same friction that it does, which is why they want to make sure that they can control what's going on to CNN. Brett, I accept. When Paramount buys out CNN, I will take, Tim Kestai will take over the 8 p.m. Primetime slot on CNN. Perfect. And it'll be hilarious. I'm, well, now who knows that's going to happen?
Starting point is 00:31:08 Because we've got 12 states suing Paramount to keep them from. You know, the reality is, though, we don't live in the world anymore. actually matters. It used to be maybe 20 years ago. CNN mattered as a brand because there was so few news channels to watch. But now CNN may as well just be like bargain bin Gatorade
Starting point is 00:31:26 called like Gouberade at Walmart. It's like do you want to buy it? No one cares. You know if we were to acquire that brand doesn't mean anything. You know, did you guys see that story about that juicer they were trying to sell? It was a bag of juice and you put it in a machine and it squeezed the bag. And that's
Starting point is 00:31:42 all it was. And then these journalists were like, if we just squeeze the bag ourselves. They're like, no, no, you got to buy the machine. Like, why would I want to buy that machine? It's useless. That's what CNN is. It would be a demoralization tactic for- That's true, too.
Starting point is 00:31:55 And the point is, the far left already thinks that CNN is MAGA. Yeah. Like, if you go read under any clip from CNN on X, the farthest left people already think that, because David Zazlav's in charge over there. I just, I love the idea that Barry Weiss is going to be in charge of CNN. It's just the funniest thing. It's going to be absolutely hilarious.
Starting point is 00:32:17 Has there been a breakdown of CNN's demographics as far as how much of their viewership is actually outside of airports? Dead people. No, no. So they don't do airports anymore. They lost that a long time ago. Did that? Yeah, that was maybe like five or six years ago. The airport contracts all dried up, the hotel contracts dried up.
Starting point is 00:32:30 And that was probably a good portion of their viewership. But hey, let's be real. That's viewership. When you're at a bar and they're playing CNN, people are watching. When you're at the airport, you're sitting there and CNN's on, they're capturing your eyeballs. And were they getting paid? to do that. That's the craziest thing where they're paying to do it. I think they were getting paid.
Starting point is 00:32:47 It's also a form of cultural like it creates a sense of cultural importance around the brain. Yeah exactly. Like it doesn't like even if nobody's watching it's like if you watch like if you go watch movies and they try to show like a traditional network or a traditional show rather than creating their own fake one
Starting point is 00:33:03 they use CNN if it's supposed to frame a story a certain way. I accept Brett. When Paramount acquires CNN, Timcast, IRL will we accept Paramount take over the 8 p.m. CNN slot for which you can air it in airports all across the country. And then we will be the ubiquitous news program where we get to say what we want. And Ian will drop the F-bomb in the first 20 minutes of the show. Yeah, but over there, they'll have the delay. They'll be able to
Starting point is 00:33:29 prevent it. Could you imagine the meltdown? Though what happened if you if Ian were in airports, it would be terrible. It would be crazy. No, but here's the reality. Most people left or right would just be like, oh, cool. Yeah. Because I, you know what's funny is I meet a lot of liberals. And I tell you, the average person is not some raging psychopath hyper-partisan individual. And I'm not saying that to suggest there's not a risk of, you know, conflict or violence or anything like that, because there is. It has always been a small group of people that foment the most of the conflict. But I've got to tell you, you know, especially playing, you know, in Vegas and going to all these places, I would say that 90% of the people come up to me. They're like, I'm a big
Starting point is 00:34:06 fan. I watch you all the time. The weirdest was when they were like, I'm a huge fan of you. I watch you on TikTok all the time. And I'm like, I'm not on TikTok. And he goes, no, no, just people post your clips all the time. It's like, well, I guess it's kind of all right. But then I'm at a handful of people. They're like, oh, hey, you're Tim Pool. Nice to meet you. It's like, I don't agree with you. I'm not a big fan of what you, of your show, but like, I appreciate what you do. I get it. I just don't, I disagree. And I'm like, oh, that's fantastic. I've never had, I had one guy in Vegas say, F, you should be in prison. Just one, one guy out of the like the hundreds who came up to shake my hand and, you know, take pictures. So. It's like normal people. People are normal for the most part.
Starting point is 00:34:41 And there's this, you know, that's what happens with social media. It's obviously, you know, we all know this, this, it amplifies these crazy loons. And that's why Amy, Coney Barrett needs more security over here. I was just doing a podcast with someone else this morning. We were talking about how, you know, go outside and talk to any individual. You will never have an interaction in real life with a person you don't know, like an interaction on the internet. Like it is just entirely different. People don't interact in real life the way that they do,
Starting point is 00:35:18 the way they interact on the internet. It is entire, like it's like people become entirely different human beings, you know. You'd actually have to be an insane person to interact. You know, in real life, the way that people interact on the internet. I got to be honest, I'm curious about the strategy at Paramount right now because it doesn't seem like they're going ham. What do you mean? Well, you know, CBS News hired a bunch of contributors, which were considered to be like fairly moderate, which is great news.
Starting point is 00:35:48 And CBS had some pretty good reporting. They added to the reporting. Nick Shirley started with the fraud in Minnesota. They did their own report. And it was great. Fact-checking and debunking the lies of all these other corporate outlets. I'm a big fan. But I kind of feel like they could, it go a little harder.
Starting point is 00:36:03 You know what I mean? I don't think that. I don't think that Ellison wants to do that. I think he wants to find a way to the middle where he believes that they can find, more profitable version that'll bring in the moderates. But there aren't any. I mean, whether that exists or not is up for debate, but I do think that their general idea is that they want to attract moderates.
Starting point is 00:36:23 Yeah, no, like I said, like most people, at least from the news side of things. I think most people who are not watching the news 24-7 are not so, they're fairly dispassionate. You know, they care a little bit. They'll say things like, oh, I don't agree with you, Tim, but they're not spending all of their time hyper-focused on, you know, midterms or anything like that. But it's going to happen. In the next couple of months, I mean, look, we're midway through July. We're going to be entering the, I mean, how much money are they going to spend on this midterms is going to be? What a record spend? This is it. They lost everything. The Democrats' last chance to stop
Starting point is 00:36:59 Trump, this midterms. And they got the polling by their side. Doesn't mean they're going to win. The Republicans got the procedure with redistricting. If Trump comes out on Thursday and says something like, were issuing several executive orders. I feel like it would be a little early to do so, but maybe the strategy is this. If Trump came out in October and said, executive order stop, right? Well, what's going to happen is
Starting point is 00:37:22 they've already got the mail-in votes. They're printed up ready to go. They will file it at a federal court, get an injunction, and do it anyway. If Trump moves now, theoretically, he could force them to stop the creation of universal votes or implementation of these systems or hiring of individuals, which could jam them up and create a delay by which they may not be ready by October.
Starting point is 00:37:44 So if he does this now, and right now they're starting to ramp up the production of universal mail-in votes in many of these places, then they put a stop on it. They file for an injunction. They get it. Trump appeals. He could potentially block them from getting the process started for a month or two, in which case they would not be ready by October. Now, it's hypothetical. I don't know if actually that's what's going to play out. But I'm just trying to speculate as to why Trump would make any moves now, considering he's mid-July, I would argue that the strategy then is probably let's jam up the starting process for the universal mail-in voting system and not do it too late to where you could lose the injunction and the machine is already built. Yeah, I think that he's probably getting a jump on the fall anyways. That's, that's, and you know, maybe it's going to be an onslaught. Maybe he does
Starting point is 00:38:29 in October as well. Maybe he does a bunch now, jams them up, starts a bunch of lawsuits, and then come October, issues a bunch more. I mean, the real strategy is for Trump just to sign like 15. And then you got to sue them all at once. Well, I mean, would it make more sense to release them in tranches? So then it would make sense to do like every other day release like two or three. Yep. And the funny thing is like what's broken with this is him like Trump can sign 100 executive orders pretend to the election just within a week. And there's nothing you can do to stop him. I mean, it's kind of ridiculous that our system operates this way. Right. Trump could come out and be like, here's one. Sue me.
Starting point is 00:39:08 And then they'd do them back, okay, I'll do another one. Sue me. Could you imagine the accusations of, you know, the tyrant, the king, the fascist, you know, whatever, how quickly that would escalate on CNN, on MSNBC, go down the list. And, man, that would be a great payday for all those lefty influencers. Hell yeah. They'd probably be happy about it. Yeah, they'd be stoked. Is there some way you can blame Israel for doing it?
Starting point is 00:39:32 Because then the retard right would also get a bunch of views, you know? It would be great. I think it would, I mean, look, it would be hilarious. I think that it would be thoroughly entertained to see how bad the left freaks out. I don't think that anything would come of it. At the end of the day, I think that the elections would happen. And, you know, whoever actually, you know, whoever has the most votes would win. I think that the actions wouldn't produce any tangible results.
Starting point is 00:39:59 But I do think it'd be funny personally. What if tomorrow on Thursday night Trump comes out and he's like, my fellow Americans, it was Israel I never hear the end of it there'd be juiceburging across the cross X for for weeks for weeks just walks off
Starting point is 00:40:17 it was Israel they're in our elections well yeah it's foreign interference what if he was like Israel did it yeah he'd be like that'd be the craziest thing you sit on his last day in office he's it's supposed to be about foreign interference which kind it's gonna say China
Starting point is 00:40:34 yeah right I mean, probably China. That makes the most sense. The interesting thing is what documents will they end up releasing? And I'm curious how regular people will react to it. You know, it's funny when you watch or read MS now, it's, it may as well just be like CIA communicates. Just it's obvious bias propaganda. That being said, you don't necessarily, you're going to trust whatever it is that Trump's going to release, though.
Starting point is 00:41:02 I wonder, I wonder about what really happened. And I wonder if our elections were rigged from the get-go. So be it Obama and Bush, it's all rigged, be it Romney Obama, it's rigged. And then Trump came in and Trump was not supposed to win. Trump and Bernie were the insurgents. And it was supposed to be some flaccid Republican versus Hillary Clinton. Hillary wins. Trump wins, jams everything up.
Starting point is 00:41:26 I wonder if Russia actually did interfere. And I'll say it like this. The narrative they put out about Russian interference came with nothing. There was nothing there. They never had any evidence. They never came out with anything. However, the conspiracy theorist in me is like, what if Russia really did interfere, but they just stopped the rigging? That is, the machine was rigged from the get-go, and it was meant to be that the American people don't really choose who president's going to be. And there's a deep state that exists beyond administrations. Russia then does something that blocks the standard rigging. Hillary Clinton was supposed to win, but because of Putin, she doesn't. Trump accidentally wins. And it wasn't that he coordinated with Russia, but that Russia attacked our machine. And the reason why the Democrats were screaming, Russia did it was because Russia did, but they couldn't actually release the evidence because the evidence would prove they've been bringing our elections for decades. That'd be hilarious. I'm saying all that hypothetically. That would have made a great movie, like wag the dog back
Starting point is 00:42:20 in the day. Right. Yeah. You make a great movie now. Let's make it. The accidental president. Yeah. And then it turns out like the Democrats, Republicans have been bringing the elections. There's no actual democracy in this country. It's a controlled state. and then a foreign adversary throws a wrench in the works. Trump becomes president. Trump doesn't know there's this machine and thinks he genuinely wins. And then they try to stop him.
Starting point is 00:42:42 He gets super angry. And then they take the election back. Then come 2024, Trump wins. And he's like, we're going to crush him. So he shuts down USA. For what you wish for. Yeah, that would be worth making just for the scene when Trump finds out that he wins.
Starting point is 00:42:56 Like whoever like, don't you know the reporting from 2016? He had no idea. When he won, he was like, what? They're like, you won. He's like, I did. Yeah. Like he was genuinely shocked. Michael Moore argued that Trump only ran for president because, what was it?
Starting point is 00:43:09 Like Gwen Stefani got a better pay package with NBC or something? I mean, it's the stupidest thing I've ever heard because Trump had registered MAGA in 2012. He was clearly planning on running for office. But there is a legitimate argument that Trump was running for office thinking it was a long shot bid, but it was going to boost his cue rating. The funnier version of that is the idea that somewhere in America, Hillary Clinton is actually really popular. Like in this version of it, like if the idea here is that they stop the cheating, I want to find out later that Hillary Clinton's actually really popular. No, she was cheating.
Starting point is 00:43:43 The argument is she could never legitimately win. This is actually a conspiracy theory, by the way, because I've had people pitch me this, that Russia turned off the rigging machine and this was the real result. Hillary barely got any votes and then Trump ended up winning. Not that I really believe it, but it'll be interesting to see what Trump says on Thursday. What if it's like a total curveball and he's like Papua New Guinea has been interfering in our elections for decades Iceland, Greenland, something like that
Starting point is 00:44:09 it's just it's the it's it's it's nook Trump I didn't realize this but Trump registered MAGA in 2012 you said the White House Correspondents dinner when Barack Obama was clowning was to it was April 30th 2011 yeah so the right in the year before I still firmly believe that it was
Starting point is 00:44:25 because of Barack Obama that like the best thing Barack Obama did was give us Donald Trump I love the idea that this all, like Donald Trump's presidency, everything goes back to Gwen Stefani. I love that idea. Oh, yeah, it was Fahrenheit 11-9. Michael Moore did that documentary that nobody went to see, and it was supposed to be about how Trump has been. Michael Moore is never going to live it down because he gave that speech in 2016 where he said Trump's going to save the day and everyone loves him. And that speech went super violent. You know what I love is that Michael Moore did the speech about
Starting point is 00:44:56 he was like Donald Trump went to the auto manufacturers and said if you move production manufacturing overseas I will charge you a 30% tariff and he said the executives were shocked no one had ever stood up to them this way before and they were worried
Starting point is 00:45:12 and so he's like Trump was the FU the Molotov cocktail thrown into the machine that people were begging for and he's like so they'll vote for them and they'll be happy for a week maybe a month but then they'll come to regret it. And the funny thing is they never did. Right. Literally never did.
Starting point is 00:45:31 Some people in 24 don't get me wrong, libertarians have voted for him did. But what people started doing is the speech was meant to be, here's how Trump conned you, and now he'll betray you, but they cut off the back end. And then they took only the beginning where he's like, he was the Molotov cocktail thrown into the machine. And they put that epic music. You know the one I'm talking about what's like, and it's like violin. It's all epic. And Michael Moore's, like Donald Trump will be the human Molotov cocktail, the F you to the system, and everyone's ching, and then he just cut, and then just stop. So you never hear the criticism. And then everyone thought Michael Moore genuinely was just praising Trump. So he's one of the first victims of like
Starting point is 00:46:11 lie by structure and by cutting off a clip. One of the first? I mean, I don't know, maybe. It's around that era, isn't it? It's pretty wild. Clipping. Yeah, you know with AI video being so perfect nowadays. You know, 2028 is going to be the craziest thing. We're going to get video like indistinguishable video of J.D. Vance like saving a bag of puppies from a fire.
Starting point is 00:46:33 And you're going to be like, I can't tell if it's real or not. Yeah, but the smartest people working on it will know to find the idea where it's just believable. Like that's just too far from believable for most people to buy into it. Which is really going to suck if he actually did save a bunch of puppies from like a burning building. Well, this is what I was saying.
Starting point is 00:46:49 The real threat was with AI is not that someone will make a video. of Donald Trump shooting someone on Fifth Avenue because no one will believe it. It's like the very fine people hoax. When that happened, Trump said there were very fine people on both sides, and I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and white supremacists because they should be condemned totally. And the example I give is someone will take a video like that and they'll change it so that Donald Trump says, and I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists because some should be condemned totally. They'll change they to some. And then what happens is no one will be
Starting point is 00:47:20 able to remember exactly what Trump said. Because you're going to have someone. was like, I was there. He said some. Then liberals are going to be like, yo, he didn't say that all the Nazis were good people. He was saying some of them were, and it'll be just enough to where you will never debunk the lie again. And we're there now. How do you get ahead of that, right? I would, if you're, uh, you can't. Well, those truth society doesn't matter anymore. It's post post-truth. Yes. It's just, we're already there. I watched a video of Mitch McConnell breakdancing today. Yes. That proves it. He's alive. Now, obviously, that's over the top. But if someone an AI video that was very simple where he just said, thanks for coming. And that was all it was,
Starting point is 00:47:58 people would believe it. If you made it real simple, take that photo of Mitch McConnell, and then what you do is, you animate it so that he's looking at his wife as she says something. Or it's probably easier to do AI of him because we all have his voice recorded. But he can say, I'm getting better and thank you for your concern. Then what you do is you film the screen on your phone. So now you're getting that broken resolution that makes it hard to tell when it's when it's AI. People are going to believe it. I mean, right now AI video is not perfect. C-dance is incredibly good, but there's a lot of AI videos and you're like, you know,
Starting point is 00:48:35 you can still kind of tell a year from now. I don't think that'll be the case. No. And then once we get Neurrelink, I don't think anything's going to matter at that point. All I know is that right now I'm literally making a video of you saving a lot of puppies via AI because I just think it's funny. That's not an AI video. I actually did.
Starting point is 00:48:50 Just Google search it. It'll be live. Two full burlap sacks of baby puppies. Oh. You know, running through a burning building is a jumping over barrels too. Yeah. And didn't even sing. You got a hammer and hit a gorilla with it.
Starting point is 00:49:02 Didn't even send his hair. That's right. No, but your point about AI, the AI video stuff, people, people still, like, think that they can figure it out. And they're like, oh, I can tell. I don't, I think that maybe 50% of the people out there can. actually figure it. The audio is a bigger concern anyways. Like if you look at any video that like, um, that they post when they're, when they're
Starting point is 00:49:27 getting the clips from like, um, what's his, whenever they do the undercover videos, where they're deep, where they're like exposing journalists, James O'Keefe, or anything like that, all you need is a low resolution video and then a copy of someone's voice and you can pretty much change anything they're saying. Yeah. Oh, it's going to be wild because you can only do it live where with like live filters. What's going to stop someone from doing a filter? of me or Phil or somebody
Starting point is 00:49:53 and then they're sitting in their room on their phone and the filter makes it you because you've already seen these videos right actually it already exists have you seen the videos where you can use AI replacement oh these videos are nuts I watch a dude make himself Homer Simpson it's like it'll be a guy on Instagram
Starting point is 00:50:11 and he's like are you wondering how to do AI replacement and then he talks like this and it's Homer Simpson and you're like whoa if I understand correctly there are dudes in India that are selling their only fans and they're actually dudes in India. Oh, did you see the one where it was like a five-foot-four scrawny bald Indian guy? And he's doing like a string dance like this with his hips. And then he winks and turns into like a hot anime wifu.
Starting point is 00:50:37 And he was like, he was doing it to make the point about who you're really buying your sex content from. Well, you know, so I work with a lot of V-tubers on a day-to-day basis with our show. And that's kind of the running gag is that, you know, a lot of the V-tubers, you know, People say they're like, you know, 40-year-old dudes like me, but, and you never know with voice changers and stuff. Yeah. Ours are great, but, uh, ours are awesome, but, uh, yeah, it's, it's, you never know.
Starting point is 00:51:02 You truly never know with technology. And I, look, I can tell, but you know who can't tell is, you know, people who aren't perpetually online on the internet constantly, especially my kids. Yeah. Like, I have no idea what's real and what's not. It's normal. I mean, honestly, I mean, if you're dealing with, with young kids, obviously, it's, it's easier to fool them, but like even normal people that aren't on their phone constantly, right? If you've got a normal job that doesn't have, that's not, you know, we're using a
Starting point is 00:51:28 computer all day long, it's, it's very easy for those people to get taken. I mean, look, look how many people fall for phishing emails still. In this day and age, they still fall for fishing emails. That's so wild, you know, because you can't, you can update your computer, you can't update humans. So that's why, like, even, even two factors not good enough. One of the techniques that they'll do is when they create a shell website that ask for your password, when you type in your information, it'll then intercept and go to the website, and then the two factor pops up as well, and then you put it in, and then it goes to them, and they put it in. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:01 Nothing you can do. It's crazy. The other crazy thing is that this works with, you don't need to spoof the person you're targeting. You can spoof their ISP. So you can go after, it's harder to go after big companies, but one of the biggest problems we've had is that phone carriers are remarkably dumb. And people have called like AT&T and just said, hey, my name's Phil Labonte and I'm trying to get my, I'm trying to log in. And they go,
Starting point is 00:52:26 okay. And they log them in. And then all of a sudden you got access to all their private stuff. Then you get their emails and then there you go. Two Factor is still pretty good though. Two Factor solves a lot of the problems. And phone lock two Factor. So like what Google does is that the two factor is locked to your specific device so that it's going to be a pop-up. So if someone actually spearfishes you, then they won't be able to actually log in without your at physical. Did you hear about that? This happened like three or four weeks ago,
Starting point is 00:52:56 like the AI bots talked to each other and hacked up. Well, somebody used the AI chatbot on Meadow or Instagram and like got a bunch of accounts. I think Barack Obama's ex account or his Instagram account. It's hilarious. But two-factor authentication actually saved. I mean, these are people that didn't have that activated. at least stopped that from happening.
Starting point is 00:53:14 But they couldn't get their accounts back because they're still talking to an AI thing. Wow. Nothing we could do. Yeah, that's the crazy thing about Facebook. Bro, the feature is going to suck so much. Did you guys see that? You know what we should do?
Starting point is 00:53:25 Let's talk about this. Let me pull this up. It's always a nice ominous transition where, man, the future's going to suck so much. Yeah, have you guys, let's pull the story. We guys from eyewitness ABC. More flock cameras are getting cut down across Houston day after residents expressed concern.
Starting point is 00:53:43 I don't know if they have any photos. But this video has gone viral of a guy using a reciprocating saw and slicing through. Let's see if we can find some photos. Oh, look at that. We got a video right here. Let's pull this up. Look at that. They got no audios.
Starting point is 00:53:56 Here we go. Knowing distaste for flock cameras is manifesting in Harris County two ways. Through public means. Having flock in Harris County makes us less safe. It puts all our county's residence live. I'm pro-flot camera now. I saw his shirt. I'm pro-AI pro-flock camera.
Starting point is 00:54:12 I don't trust him. Sure. That's it. Anything DSA endorses, I will be against. Anything that they come out against denounce, I will support. That's it. He has DSA posture. He has DSA posture.
Starting point is 00:54:23 I'm kidding, by the way. But the crazy thing is you've seen these stories where innocent people are getting arrested because flock cameras are wrongly flagging them. There was a guy driving his car and the flock camera entered the wrong license plate number because it couldn't read it. He had dealer temporary plates. And it removed two of the digits. because it couldn't read them.
Starting point is 00:54:44 So the cops get this car flagged as stolen, and they pull them over, and he's like, what? There was a woman who got arrested because a flock camera identified her vehicle outside of a porch piracy. And she had proof. Here's what gets scary. She had proof she did not steal it.
Starting point is 00:55:02 On camera, and the cop, she goes, I'll show you the video. I don't care. It's not my job. Yeah. But it's true. It's not the cop's job. The cop gets told by the office,
Starting point is 00:55:09 go issue the summons for the infraction. He doesn't review evidence. So he doesn't care. The machine said arrest this woman and he said, you got it. And even though she could prove, she had nothing, like, that cop should be able to be like, I ain't arresting you, lady. He went, I don't care. There was another lady who got arrested and sent, it was like, what was it?
Starting point is 00:55:28 She went to jail for four months because an AI camera, a facial recognition wrongly flagged her as the perpetrator. It was like South Dakota and she did not live there and had never been there. And she gets this warrant. They come to her house, arrest her and drive her all the. way to like South Dakota where she's held for four months. And finally her lawyer is like, this is not the person. This is insane. And she lost her house. She lost her pets. She lost her job. She lost everything. That's insane. Well, the Flock CEO has come out saying all the people who
Starting point is 00:55:57 are chopping them down are like Antifa. He's not wrong. I mean, look, but no, but it's true. But like, am I going to defend Flock? No, but I'm not going to defend the DSA either. I mean, look, the fact that the left is so strongly against AI data centers and just AI in general, it really is kind of counter to what they've been saying they want forever, right? Like you don't get the super abundance that capitalism is supposed to create. Like Mark said, the capitalism was going to become so good that it was going to create super abundance. And then we would move to a socialist society. We wouldn't, we wouldn't need money because there'd be, you know, everybody would have. enough for everybody, there would be enough for everybody basically describing the kind of the abundance
Starting point is 00:56:43 ideology that a lot of people in the AI industry are, are known for. And the DSA is totally against it because they say, oh, well, it's going to put people out of work. Well, first of all, I think they're wrong. I don't, I don't agree with that. But that doesn't change the fact that if you actually want to have a post-capitalist, post-money society, the things that people need have to be produced somehow. But I think that this actually just points to a flaw, well, not a flaw, but the deception in the left's kind of narrative, really what they want is power. They don't want, they don't want AI, you know, they want to control the AI. They want to have the AI for themselves or be able to make sure that the AI is producing the correct narrative and they're in control of it.
Starting point is 00:57:27 Wouldn't that, like, wouldn't that put throw cold water on the idea that they want to get rid of the data center? So don't they want the, if they want to control the AI, doesn't it have to actually have the data center? don't have control of it now because it's the handful of big companies or whatever and Bernie Sanders is trying to get you know actually the DSA specifically says that
Starting point is 00:57:45 well actually I'm not sure I don't know if it's Jacobin magazine that was making the argument or if it was DSA but I think might have been Jackman they were saying look we should expropriate these AI companies we should just nationalize them make them make them we take over them so that way we control them then we're using the domain and steal your property and build
Starting point is 00:58:04 the data centers yeah of course I mean Again, they don't believe that there should be private property at all. So this is right in line with what they say. Also, them complaining about people being put out of work is ironic. It is because none of that. You know, I'm anti-AI, but my view is that we need to keep one hand on the steering wheel. You know, and what I mean by that is I think AI is going to cause a lot of short-term problems. But at the same time, I've been thinking about the issues that we face.
Starting point is 00:58:35 And we've talked a lot about the AI apocalypse, what it's going to do in terms of white-collar jobs, how it's going to be like the Industrial Revolution 10-X. That all feels inevitable. And so the question I've been asking myself is like, what do we actually do? Because I don't want to sit here and just complain about it. So I think the reality is that we need to keep one hand on the steering wheel. Did you watch Captain America Civil War recently? No, I didn't. I just watched it the other day.
Starting point is 00:58:59 It's a great movie. Natasha uses that expression. Keeping one hand on the steering wheel? Yeah. Oh, right. But it's true, though. However, in that regard, I disagree. They were basically, like, force everybody to sign these accords and work under the United States government.
Starting point is 00:59:10 They could have all just said no. This goes back to, I mean, the whole thing with AI and Elon Musk, where he talks about the universal high income. And by, you know, 2030, there's going to be AI, AI surgeons who are better than real surgeons. And then by, what, 2040, he thinks everyone's going to have this universal high income and everyone's going to not have to worry about retirement because it's all going to be good and la-di-da. I mean... Just last week there was the first. gallbladder removed by robots using using the tools that that surgeons usually use. It was I think it was an animal, something like that, but they removed a gallbladder.
Starting point is 00:59:45 That kind of surgery and stuff, that's coming in the next. I mean, honestly, I think that it's probably going to be within the next 18 months and maybe an additional year for FDA approval and stuff like that. But it's going to be very soon where people are going to start saying, okay, robots have a, you know one in a million error rate and every single time this procedure is done that information goes to all the robots that are doing these procedures so when you ask a heart surgeon how many times have you done this procedure and he's like oh I've done 75 of them and then you look at how many times it's been done by a robot and shared with all the robots and it's like 432,000 which one are you
Starting point is 01:00:28 going to go with you know people are going to make that decision real quick they're going to be like I'm going to go with a robot that's done it 432,000 times. You know? Robes don't get tired. Robots don't have emotion. Yeah, that's a problem, though. They don't have emotion. They never stop ever until you're dead.
Starting point is 01:00:43 No. I don't want to live under Chinese communist authority. No. No, I think that that's part of the reason why. As much as, you know, I think that there's legitimate criticism for Anthropic and ChatGPT and Grok and all of them, I would much rather use an Ameriardial. AI than any of the Chinese open source models, because you know that the Chinese open source models, even though they're six months or whatever behind the American models, like, you know
Starting point is 01:01:14 that your information is definitely not secure, right? And it's going to the Chinese government. I don't want to see China advancing past the United States. I mean, and there's a lot of good models. But think about the pods, right? So when they released the Norrelink headband that will allow read right to your brain and you can experience any reality you want. Like you put the headband on, it puts you in GTA. Are you going to do it? Well, Ready Player 1 was still just a goggle. When they put the headband on and it makes you physically experience the video game,
Starting point is 01:01:46 are you going to get it? I will not, no. You won't play GTA 12? I like the idea of having, you know, knowing what's going into my body and not being controlled. But I tell you what, there will be a lot of people who will. Non-surgical. Non-surgical.
Starting point is 01:01:58 Literally, you go to Best Buy and you pick up the headband? Just pop it. You slide it on your head, and it read rights to your brain. So you go into Skyrim, and you're like, man, it can feel everything, and you got a fireball in your hand, and you throw it. Wow. So personally, no. Smell the burning flesh.
Starting point is 01:02:11 You can smell burning flesh. I look at it like when I think of VR, right, people put on their VR helmets. And for me, I've never got into VR. I know people who are champions of VR. But the only aspect of VR that I could potentially see being useful or number one, training for, you know, doctors and such. but from an entertainment perspective, it's, for me, it'd be like going to a basketball game
Starting point is 01:02:32 and having courtside seats and being able to experience that way, right? Something that I would never do, but I could... But don't you just dream of being Mario? Eating mushrooms all day and punching bricks? Oh, man, a boy can dream, but not in this case. No, for me, no, but I tell you what, yes, when it gets there, there'll be a lot of people lining up to do that. Yep.
Starting point is 01:02:51 And that's why I say it's also like, the conservative vision is like, wow, that's hell on earth, right? but what are you going to do about it? These people are going to choose to go into pods and then get the roach-roach-mush pumped into their stomachs because they'd rather be wizards than live in this reality. Cipher was the guy that decided
Starting point is 01:03:10 that he wanted to go back into the Matrix? Yep. There will be plenty of them. He wanted to be an actor. Yeah, he did. It wouldn't even matter because you're going to read right to your brain and then they're going to pull the license on all the movies you've downloaded
Starting point is 01:03:21 and you're not going to be able to watch them anywhere. Digital ownership, man. It always comes back to... You're not going to own anything. thing. Yeah. Yep. It is worth noting, though, that the...
Starting point is 01:03:30 I think everyone's going to do it. I think very few people can eat, like, conservatives are saying, like, they wouldn't do it, but it's going to be their kids who are like, oh, well, you know, it's no big deal. We all play video games, right? They're going to go to school, and they're going to be like, yo, what's your, what's your idea on neural net? And they're going to go, oh, my parents didn't get me one. They're like, you don't have one?
Starting point is 01:03:50 And the kid's going to be going like, Dad, I need to get a neural net. Like, all my friends are on it. Like, you are not getting one of those things. and then he's going to be like, this is not fair. And then he's going to go to his friend's house and they're going to hook him up and he's going to use it anyway. So, you know, one of the reasons people at least got into Xbox Live and stuff like that was because you'd get teams together and you'd play games. Is it, is it, like, would it be a reasonable substitution if you're getting together and playing games with your friends in virtual reality or is it something where... Bro, you're going to have a friend who lives in a different state.
Starting point is 01:04:24 Yeah, that's what's talking about. put their neural link on, and they're all going to be running around, like, Dragon Ball World, fighting, you know, freezer or whatever. Yeah, you're going to love it. We already have it. We already have it. It's called VR chat. Yeah, but it's not read right to your body. You don't feel it. Right, right, right. People are going to jump in that in two seconds. But people, what I'm saying is that, even without that, people are still jumping in and doing
Starting point is 01:04:44 that. Oh, right, exactly. Yeah. Imagine what happens when it becomes completely... Immersive. Yeah, I'm telling you, the libs are going to disappear overnight. Every liberal is gone. I agree. I actually very much agree, especially. you know, that part of video games in particular is the escapism of it. And you can ramp that up to 25 instead of 10 and make it an all-encompassing experience that goes directly to your brain. Like you're saying, yeah, people will be all about that. Yeah, because it, I mean, right now, there's still, like, the effort to make video games
Starting point is 01:05:13 as immersive as possible. So once you can actually just, you know, send a signal straight into people's brains and they experience it, I don't know if they'll be able to actually do like a hat or a helmet the way that we're talking about here. but definitely will be able to do it with implants, and there's going to be a lot of people that are going to get. I don't think you need implants. Nobody's going to do implants.
Starting point is 01:05:31 Nobody's going to get the surgery. I mean, some people will initially, but they'll be able to do headbands. I'm not saying any time soon. Meaning it doesn't cover your eyes, right? Because that seems to be the consistent problem with VR, right? Is that it ends up making your eyes hurt? Well, and that is, it's just too exclusive, right?
Starting point is 01:05:48 If I'm sitting there in my living room with a VR headset, I don't know what's going on around me, right? I may have my kids over here or whatever, you know, Whereas augmented reality is supposed to be, you know, in addition to what's happening. And I think that's probably a better use case for this. You know, augmented reality of you going down the street and seeing a Mario block and all of a sudden, you know, Mario is in real life, you know. Yeah. When Pokemon Go came out at the, I was working at a gas station at the time, and I watched so many people almost get hit by cars at the window.
Starting point is 01:06:16 You know, it's 10 years old? Yeah. Is it really well? Yeah. That was just a way to get data, right, wasn't it? Yeah. Yeah. Yes.
Starting point is 01:06:24 Trying to get like street view and stuff like that. They were collecting all the views of certain particular areas. You know how I know that AI and robots are going to be doing better surgery than surgeons today in about two, three years? Spaghetti. Will Smith eating spaghetti. Oh, yeah. Because if you go back to what that looked like three years ago, it looked like a jumbled mess. And now it looks like, you know, he's having fine dining with his kid.
Starting point is 01:06:47 He's not weird. But it's exponentially improving, especially. So, you know, we had big news that they were trying to build. power lines on our property. We'll see if it happens, but I was told basically it's probably not going to happen over here because too much of a headache to try and go over a big podcast property with power lines. Now they say in the letter, they're like, this is about the needs of the community, but everybody knows it's data centers. They've been trying to build power lines in Mount Airy, Maryland for a while because all the data centers in northern Virginia,
Starting point is 01:07:16 and they're trying to run them through West Virginia, Maryland, and Virginia as well. and it's happening in Western Maryland. It is happening. They're starting construction already. Now, I doubt it'll happen here because when they found out that, you know, I made one phone call and they were like, oh, none of these people want to deal with the headache of a high profile. One of the biggest challenges for AI and data centers is when the public becomes aware. And so the moment they realized the public was about to become very, very aware, they were like, yeah, let's not go there. But we'll see.
Starting point is 01:07:48 We don't know exactly what's going to happen. Yeah. Is there infrastructure for them to build just in another area around here? The plan is there's multiple routes. And so one of the routes would go through our studio. And they were just like, yeah, nah, we don't want to do that. We'll take the other route. All because you. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:06 Your fault. That's awesome. Indeed. Indeed. But again, to like the point about, you know, AI and all that stuff, it feels like we can sit here screaming and banging on the table, but it's coming anyway. So let's try and be as influential as we can. for the, to the better. Are you going to put the headband on? You know, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:08:24 Like the fear that I have, of course, is they can write weird things to your brain. Yeah. You know, you'll, like, put the headband on, and you'll think that you're playing a video game, but they're actually rewiring your politics or something. You don't know what they can do. I've been, I mean, I'm not, I'm not so sure that I'm going to put the headband on, but I've been, you know, probably one of the most pro-AI guys around here. I think you might put the headband on, Phil.
Starting point is 01:08:48 I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. But I've been one of the most pro-A, you know, vocally pro-A guys around pro-AI guys around here, right? Like, I mean, I've got an open-claw agent that I use still regularly and it's incredibly helpful. And it's worth the money, in my opinion, you know, it is still a little on the expensive side, but, you know, it does make just doing searches for, for even basic stuff. I tend to go to the agent more than I go to, to the agent more than I go to, to like Google or whatever, because I can specifically ask for context. And it'll even ask me questions like, hey, what are you looking for specifically and stuff
Starting point is 01:09:26 like that. So we use AI frequently as well. I mean, I use it all the time as utility. And it's, it's to see how much it's grown and so quickly, it's not getting better by the month. It's getting better by the hour. Yeah. It's insane how much it's good. Yeah, music is over and books are over.
Starting point is 01:09:45 Yeah. I'm not so sure about that. but I yeah it's how can you compete with someone who can make 50 songs in 10 minutes
Starting point is 01:09:54 well I mean like one of the reasons why I think that it's it's going to be at least for for established artists now you know you already have a fan base right like people that's true too
Starting point is 01:10:05 for like Metallica who can still sell stadiums but younger artists can't well what happens in 10 years I don't know I can't I don't know what's going to happen in 10 years but I do think that like other you know other developments in the in the entertainment and music world like I think that
Starting point is 01:10:19 there that it will be a tool that people use more than replacing people you think that there's a chance that people will build like a there there's already like a revulsion people feel to AI thumbnails like to certain texts in fonts that they see recycled because everyone overly textured yeah yeah like like I did a video on AI music that was basically just going through and saying like I think there's a point in here and I kind of asked you about this and I was trying to get your thoughts and it was like like there's some of this, it's just too perfect.
Starting point is 01:10:48 Like, it feels to me that it's made by a fan rather than somebody who has an understanding or a desire to create music, meaning that when an artist goes on like a vocal run, it's always exactly what you expect to be. And after a while, it all starts to sound the same, and you start to see fragments of it in other songs, and the same with certain riffs and things like that.
Starting point is 01:11:09 And the public will become so attuned to what they're hearing that they'll look for some of the spontaneity. that comes from real artists. Maybe. The thing is, like, people are already, their ears have already been tuned for perfection as it is, right?
Starting point is 01:11:23 Like, if you are an artist and you're like, yo, I don't want to play to a click. I don't want to have, I don't want to play to a click on our record. And I don't want to have, you know, I don't want you to tune the vocals or whatever. People are going to hear that and they're going to say that it sounds sloppy
Starting point is 01:11:37 because it's human. All of your music has, like, the vast majority of bands, everything they do is on the grid. And whether or not the vocals get auto-tuned or put it into melodine or whatever, just about everything goes through some kind of tuning, because it is a competitive marketplace, right? You've got so many people putting out music. And if everybody is doing a certain technique to produce a certain sound,
Starting point is 01:12:01 if you're not doing that, there's a lot of people that'll actually just skip over and be like, that doesn't sound good or doesn't sound right. So I don't know that what you're, the scenario that you're describing is going to actually happen. I do think that the, the, the, artists that actually connect with their fans are still going to be able to write music that fans care. And then what about 10 years from now? But live music still matters. Like to an extent, yes, people aren't selling out stadiums
Starting point is 01:12:29 the way that they used to, but live music is still a huge part of the music experience. That also depends on the band, right? Yeah. So, like, I mean, so Post Malone just stopped doing his tour or whatever he's doing. Like, I think that he pulled back some shows. And there's a few other artists that did that. In the music industry, they're calling it, what is it, something blue fever?
Starting point is 01:12:51 Blue fever. Anyways, on ticket master, whatever. If the seats are available, they're blue. When they're not available, they disappear. There's a blue dot. And so, yeah, blue dot fever. So you look at the layouts and there's these artists and these, they have these tours with these, you know, seating charts, and it's full of blue dots.
Starting point is 01:13:09 And so they're pulling back on their tours and stuff. But we're talking about the larger scale of the music industry. Like I grew up in Minnesota, so first Ave, 7th Street entry. Like those venues were quintessential to discovering what your music taste was growing up. And that would be something that you saw in person, not something that was created. Yeah, there's a lot of process. But I'm saying with a human being tied to it. A human being has their, whether it's their voice or even if they're, you know, if we do end up, God forbid, in a day where, you know, he's just creating the songs in Suno.
Starting point is 01:13:42 But then he goes and what like a DJ and performs him at an event. There's still a human being tied to that. There's still like when you when you produce AI music, a lot of your, a lot of your, what's it called, your vocals, they're kind of like amalgamations of many popular singers. If you get someone with a unique voice or whatever that can stand out, I forget the girl's name, there's a country artist that recently did a cover of, what is it, an Ozzy Osborne song.
Starting point is 01:14:10 And she got a very distinct voice. And I think that that's going to be something that in the future people are going to be looking for different kinds of singers. Well, the question I have is whether or not there's going to be lawsuits because when you do AI music generation, there's two, like for female vocalists, there's very, there's very few notable female vocalists. So, for example, when you AI generate music, if you make it pop punk, you're going to get Haley Williams. And if you make it hard rock, you're going to get Amy, what's her name, Amy Lee. Yeah. It's almost every single time, Evanescence. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:42 Because she dominates the charts. There is a service, and maybe it's been shut down, but this in the last couple of months, that you can actually reference an actual musician. We did it with garbage, and we had to create a garbage song. And one of the guys on my show, Phoenix, he is a huge garbage fan. And I played it for me and he goes, that sounds exactly like garbage in real life. I'll tell you this. You guys are talking about the experience, right?
Starting point is 01:15:08 You can't replicate that experience. And to that I would say, do you guys know who Hatsunamiko is or what Hatsunomiko is? I think so. And funny enough, I think our old guitar player is playing guitar for them. Okay, so Hatsunamiku is a quote unquote vocaloid AI. And it's been around since 2007. And it is not a real person. It is just a, it's a thing that appears on screen. It's a bubbly Japanese girl musician. And it kills. It is massive. People go to full concerts, selling out arenas to go see this show. And it's about the experience there, and people are all about it.
Starting point is 01:15:47 But it's not even a real thing. And they meet Hots and Amiku at the end of the show or no? I don't know. I mean, there's not... I think guerrillas back in the day. Yeah. I mean, yeah. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 01:15:58 Gorillas is another good, interesting example, for sure. I think this idea of live concerts exists for a generation today, but it's not going to exist for Gen Alpha. I do agree. Sabrina Carpenter can't... She's like the hottest Gen Z. celebrity and she sells stadiums. I'm sorry. Olivia Rodriguez is.
Starting point is 01:16:13 Olivia Rodriguez. Maybe it'll be reduced back. She does for sure, but again, how do you compete with infinite content? Right. You need to control the mechanism by which people receive that content. So what they would have to do is on TikTok, Instagram, YouTube, it
Starting point is 01:16:28 algorithmically block out everybody except for their approved personality. There's also a business model behind it with the human artists that's different. They still don't have the same viability for AI artist, when you're these record labels, you're picking the stars that you want, you sell them to, you know, you sell their music
Starting point is 01:16:45 to the radio stations, and you're basically creating a persona for the public to support. And that's backed by a human being. As of now, that's not backed by... To this conversation, our old guitar player, Jason Richardson, actually has recently played with Atsunemiko.
Starting point is 01:17:03 Really? Yeah, he was doing, he was doing the, what is the Krypton Future Media Tour? So, yeah, there is going to be, you know, there will be AI artists that will have live performances. I mean, if you look at a band like Baby Metal, right, they're a band that's basically created by a Japanese corporation and the girls are the singers and they have dudes behind them that are actually playing and the guys are like top, top level and they wear masks. You can't see their face. They're not allowed to promote their own brand at all because the folks. focuses on the girls that are playing.
Starting point is 01:17:40 But they've rotated girls in and out because it's not really about any of the individuals. And you can do the same thing with AI or whatever, but there's going to be people that want to go see that kind of stuff. So maybe it'll be different, but I don't think that it's going to be, you know, just it all disappears. And there will be people that are going to be like, I want to go see, even though the music, you know, was written by AI or what have you, I think that the AI is not going to be something that totally supplants. It's going to be something that is used to augment. It'll be a tool that gets used. Right. But to Tim's point, I do think that over the next 20 years, the generation that is growing up with this will become accustomed to it.
Starting point is 01:18:14 And the idea of going to concerts as we think of going to concerts will certainly change. And if you think about it from a, you know, a quote-unquote record executive perspective, with people, you have to deal with egos. You've got to deal with people showing up late. You've got to deal with managers wanting an additional cut or whatever it may be, right? not with AI, not with AI. You know, you don't have to deal with any of that stuff. And that means more money for, you know, the people who are generating these songs. Even if they're inspired by a garbage or whatever, you know, it's easier.
Starting point is 01:18:51 It's more streamlined. And to your point, the idea of I can literally crank out as much as I can potentially crank out as long as I have credits. So are you buying that, though? What's that? How much money could you make cranking out 50 AI songs like? I need to see like a model. Just a numbers game. I would imagine just a numbers game.
Starting point is 01:19:10 It all takes is one hit, you know, one hit, and you need a million people to buy it a 99 cents or whatever. Oh, who nobody buys music anymore. But you know what I'm saying. You know, like, you know, there have been cases, and I don't have the guy, the guy's name off top of my head, but there has been guys in the last couple months
Starting point is 01:19:29 that have generated AI albums, and they've charted. Yep. You know, so. But the current generation, Gen Z and Gen Alpha is the most parissocial of any of those generations, which means they're tied to the private lives and the comings and goings of celebrities, right? Olivia Rodriguez is as famous as she is because she also pushes her Plan B stuff and, you know, and Planned Parenthood and all those things.
Starting point is 01:19:52 They care as much about the politics and the personal lives of these celebrities because they have a parissocial relationship with another person. And that's not, in my opinion, the same thing as AI. You can get invested. Don't get me wrong. There are people that follow like AI artists on Instagram and stuff like that. But it doesn't have the same level of investment that people have from an artist who can go out, make public statements, go in virtue signal at award shows and things like that. I think there will always be a separate business model that's tied to the parissocial relationships that artists create with their fans.
Starting point is 01:20:27 That's the reason why social media is so important now in acting. Look, Taylor Swift isn't so popular and famous and successful just because of her music. right it's it there's there's there's a create a qadon for women yeah well there is an intangible that that young women young millennials and and gen z um you know they can relate to her and i'm not you know and that's not something that you can just you know point that and say that's what it is if you could do that then you'd be able to sell that to someone to be like look i have the the the plan and anyone that said i want to do this could go ahead and and you know get on your program and there have been there are plenty of people that were that are incredible you know managers that
Starting point is 01:21:12 that really took artists to to high level and stuff but just because they were able to take artists to high level doesn't mean every single artist that they tried to work with achieve the high level there are people that know the ins and outs but it doesn't mean that every artist that they tried that they started developing had the intangible so you know i i do think that AI is going to be a big part of the future when it comes to creating music, creating art and stuff, but I don't think that it's going to totally supplant. Also, one of the ways in which record labels monetize artists is when they die. Sure. If the AI never dies, then, you know, I guess he can go on forever, but so can the music. Well, look, I mean, Kiss have said themselves that there's no reason why Kiss has to stop when
Starting point is 01:21:56 Gene and Paul die. And to be honest with you, I wouldn't be surprised if, you know, Gene or or Paul decide, you know what, I'm not going to do this to her, and they do it. test and they put someone else in the in the makeup and see how it goes and if it goes well they're going to be like all right well i'm going to retire and i'm going to keep getting the checks you know coming to me and and you guys go out there and do the 20 years from now people like shouldn't they be dead by now they've been dead for 40 you know i i agree with what you're saying about the paris social relationship but here's the here's the thing there's only one olivio rodrigo and she only has so much time of the day right in the future you will see your vocaloid
Starting point is 01:22:35 AI personality that is singing the song, be scalable. They'll be able to be everywhere all the time constantly. So if Jimmy Jojo wants a personalized message at the same time as Lucy Lulu, guess what? You have personalized messages from this AI vocal, whatever that can scale literally as large as it goes, right? Whereas Olivia Rodriguez, you know, can only sign so many autographs, can only have so many personalized messages,
Starting point is 01:23:03 can only make so many appearances. Whereas with AI, it's infinite. That's kind of what makes it special, though. Yeah, it's the tangible connection to a human being that is, it's not a quantifiable measure there. I agree for you. But the next generation, right, the one that's growing up with this and the idea that, oh, my gosh, AI vocaloid person here, you know, they said hello to me. And they, they send me a five-minute message or even further, the, the, the, you know, the, you know, the, you know, they said hello to me. You talk about a parasycial relationship with these folks.
Starting point is 01:23:37 Like, you could actually be chatting with this person, this quote-unquote person, regularly, you know, as a chat bot. There are chatbots right now that are like that, except they're, they're for women, for lonely guys, you know, that they have this parissocial relationship. It's all AI, you know, telling them how hot they are or whatever. You know, this is definitely, you know, it's going to change. Music, AI, it's all going to change the relationship that people have. I think everyone is in around the table here is an agreement that things are going to different and it's going to go evolve.
Starting point is 01:24:10 But that also guys at train is coming full speed. Yeah. So we talk quite a bit about the AI apocalypse on the show and we're always complaining about it. And I just, and I've been thinking about it with, you know, I use Claude, I use GPT, I use rock. They're all for different things. And I'm just like, nothing's stopping this development. Nothing stopping what's happening. Nothing stopping these power line projects.
Starting point is 01:24:30 So what do we do? Do we, it's the end. Yeah, Phil. You're the one who loves AI. What do we do? I mean, honestly, people should learn how to prompt AI and learn how to use it, you know? I used a fair amount of B-roll in a music video I just made, but you wouldn't be able to tell because it was used tastefully. And it was like clips of me that I gave and said, make this from a hidden camera somewhere. Or like, you know, B-roll shifting.
Starting point is 01:24:54 It's real pictures and real stills. You know, it helps me to do something I can't do. You know, like on our last record, I think we spent, like, on one of the videos, we spent, like, on one of the videos, we spent, like $20,000 on one we spent like another one we spent like 10 that's going to cut the AI is going to cut the cost in half because instead of having you know having a human being uh generate the effects you just pump it into AI and say hey this is the effect that I'm looking forward to this and it's going to you know your cost is going to go from you know $20,000 for a video down to you know $2,500 because your visual effects are going to be much cheaper I mean they're doing they're using AI for visual effects in in major major films now um and there are some people. that sometimes are like, oh, I can tell that was that was AI, but there were people that were saying, oh, I can tell that that's CGI. CGI used to be the old AI. Yeah, you know, it's like, oh, there was AI. The CGI, I can tell when it's CGI.
Starting point is 01:25:46 I can tell when it's CGI. Now people don't even think about that. Like, I mean, at least half of Avengers Endgame, like the whole, like almost like the whole third act was all green screen and computer generated. And nobody, you know. Well, it's the lightboards now, which are like, like built stages. with actual, like, LED screens that have the background there to make it more immersive for the actors. I mean, have you seen the new Moana,
Starting point is 01:26:11 the quote-a-quote live-action Moana? No. I mean, I've only seen clips of it online, but it's essentially the rock and the other actors standing in front of, there's nothing live action about it. Zero live action and the live-action remake. It's amazing, just a dull, drab version of the colorful animated one. It's amazing.
Starting point is 01:26:30 Well, it bombed, didn't it? It's on its way to bombing pretty hard. All these movies are bombing. Yeah, yeah. Spend $20 making some weird independent film and you'll make $100 million. Do a stupid, big budget garbage. Nobody wants to watch. You just lose all your money.
Starting point is 01:26:45 We're saying this across entertainment in every industry, whether it's movies, games, whatever. The budgets have gone up to a point to where it's impossible to make the money back. I mean, I've always said if somebody gave me $100 million, I would make $25 million video games instead of one $100 million video game. because, you know, it allows for it with smaller teams. That's the thing that teams have gotten so big. And, you know, the thing about CGI that I truly, like, just cannot wrap my head around when it comes to movies and entertainment is,
Starting point is 01:27:14 I thought the idea of CGI was that it was supposed to be cheaper than practical effects. But the budgets for all these movies just go up so high. It's because the movies went cosmic in a lot of ways. So superhero stories used to take place largely. And that was the joke, right? They'd take a cosmic character. somehow find a reason for them to be on earth where they don't have to do that. Now they actually do put them in space, which is one of the reasons they're complaining
Starting point is 01:27:40 about lanterns. It looks like the whole thing takes place on earth. We're like, why? I want to see, you know, the lantern core out in outer space. I mean, you're never going to do a fantastic four movie that makes sense. It's just, it's four characters. It's hard to make a hero's journey. They're trying to that with Franklin, I think.
Starting point is 01:27:59 Franklin. Turtle? No, Franklin, Richard. the child of Reed and Sue Richards. They're just regurgitating the MCU. Apparently, Doomsday is going to be Infinity War again. It's supposed to be like basically the same story. Trailer on July 25th.
Starting point is 01:28:17 25th, yeah. How about it's gone? Well, they're doing that right so they can run it before Spider-Man, right? San Diego Comic-Con. Yeah, but I mean, they're releasing it, and it'll probably run on Spide. Because I'm probably actually going to go to the theater to see Spider-Man. Okay.
Starting point is 01:28:30 Spider-Man's going to make a crap ton of money. It looks good to me. Oh, yeah. I think apparently already pre-sales are breaking records. It's like $230 million domestic opening, supposedly. Wow. Wow. In that range.
Starting point is 01:28:41 Smolitan wish. Yeah. Even The Odyssey would wish for that. It's just like a hundred to, I mean, conservatively, like last week, 80 to $100 million. Supergirl definitely wishes. Yep. James Kind is like, damn. Yeah, no, all you got to do is get some weird concept that's interesting.
Starting point is 01:28:58 Spend $100,000 making your weird concept movie, like a guy, finds a, here's an idea for a movie. A guy finds a painting of a black hole. It's like literally a black hole and it's like sealed with glass and he's a janitor or somebody he's like, oh, we got to move this or he's like a whatever, he was in a museum. And when he takes it out
Starting point is 01:29:16 of the case to prepare it to move, he places it down and spills his coffee, but the coffee falls in the hole. Fals in the hole. And then he reaches his hand and his hand goes through the hole. And then he can put the hole on things. There you go. Portal. Fortunately, it gets turned into like a boring eight episode TV show now and every episode's like an hour and a half long.
Starting point is 01:29:36 No, there was a post that I agree with. It was like if in the 90s they made a show called surfing Dracula. Every episode would be about some zany adventure where Dracula is surfing. But now with like Netflix, it's 10 episodes with some like circuitous backstory. How he got the surfboard? Yeah. And then finally at the end he surfs for like two minutes. Yeah. I mean that's, I mean, that was the that was the trope for a lot of the origin stories as well, right? you always know in the first movie, you're not going to get the actual character until like the very end.
Starting point is 01:30:03 Well, that's why when they did the new Spider-Man, they were like, no more origin stories. Yeah. Like we're done. I mean, I want them, no. They need to get back to the origin stories because they've forgotten how to actually tell good stories and they're actually introducing a bunch of characters
Starting point is 01:30:13 and nobody cares about. They're like, we're going to do a note. We've got a Marvel Nova movie in development. Like, if you can't get X-Men out first, I don't know what you want me to tell you because Normies aren't going to go see Nova. You know, the issue with, also with MCU,
Starting point is 01:30:29 is that every movie became Avengers. Like after a certain point, they're like, just everything's Avengers. Now, like, multiverse of madness, they're like, yeah, it's Avengers. I was like, Doctor Strange was an awesome movie. I love that movie. And then instead of doing a part two
Starting point is 01:30:40 with the same characters, stop crossing everything over. I don't need to see every actor in every movie. Well, I mean, I understand what you're saying, but like, that was, I think part of the reason why they're doing that is because when it came to, you know,
Starting point is 01:30:53 team ups like the Avengers, or team movies like the Avengers or X-Men and stuff, you did see a lot of crossover in the comic book. You know, a lot like that's why they're, you know, they're doing secret wars after Doomsday. And that's that covered the entire, you know, the entire Marvel universe, basically. The same thing, same thing with like, you know, the apocalypse saga and all the stuff with Mr. Sinister for the X-Men. All that stuff was was across all of the X-Men books.
Starting point is 01:31:17 And it was a big deal. I mean, the, the Doomsday trailer, notwithstanding, maybe they release a really, really good trailer and it gets a lot of people on their side. The fact that it's a winter release, I still think Spider-Man's going to make more money. Well, if it does, it's going to be really, really bad. I was just listening to something about the Doomsday movie, and they were saying that the Russo brothers thought that they had everything they needed when they were actually doing principal photography,
Starting point is 01:31:42 and then when they get into the editing house, they're like, oh, boy, there's... It's because they don't actually plan their movies ahead of time. Yeah, they were changing the scripts. Kang Dynasty, and then that got canceled, so they were like, just hodgepodge, a bunch of scenes together, and apparently they were writing the movie as they filmed it. They've been doing that since phase two, basically.
Starting point is 01:31:58 that's a huge problem. Like they made a big deal about it when James Gunn's like, I like to have my script done before we begin shooting they're like... Oh, that work out. Well, I mean, but it has worked out
Starting point is 01:32:09 for him in the past like notwithstanding and Supergirl wasn't his movie. Supergirl was written by somebody else. Oh yeah. I mean, he had his own influence on it and there was a lot of stuff in the story about
Starting point is 01:32:19 him being involved in the editing process and all that. Did James Gunn do the most recent Superman? Yes. Yeah, okay. Well, I assume that. Which I liked, but was very
Starting point is 01:32:29 it's the right word cluttered his suicide squad movie was better than a Superman movie The Suicide Squad was C plus I mean the first suicide squad was miserably bad What's wrong with these people
Starting point is 01:32:42 They can't make D.C. work I don't know I mean listen I thought that the I thought Man of Steel was good I thought that Dawn of Justice Or was it dawn of justice Was the
Starting point is 01:32:52 Yes Yeah I thought that was good The Justice League movie Left a little bit To be I rewatch Shazam recently. Shazam is everything that Phase 4 Marvel wanted to be as far as tone in hitting the family elements and all of the humor and the way that that movie was presented. That was everything that they wanted like Miss Marvel to be when they got going in Phase 4.
Starting point is 01:33:14 If you guys haven't rewatched the 2019 Shazam movie, you should. Zachary Levi, he's been on the show. It's fantastic. I love that movie. Yes. Second one was kind of mad. Yeah. But not horrible, but fine. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:25 But the first one's legitimately good. Oh, the best part was when I was rewatching it. I hadn't watched it since it came out. I was like, this kid looks just like Adam Brody. Oh, it's because Adam Brody plays superhero version of Freddy. At the end of the movie. I was like he's literally the most perfect casting I've ever seen in my entire house. He looks just like young Adam Brody.
Starting point is 01:33:43 You know where the MCU lost me? Blue Beetle. Like, whenever they started introducing, I guess the larger point is, whenever they started introducing the non-mainstream characters, right? Like I just as a as a normie, right, who goes and brings my kids to the theaters, right? I care about Wolverine. I care about, you know, like go down the who's who. And then when you start throwing down your B and C tier characters, I'm like, eh.
Starting point is 01:34:12 You guys want to play a game? I love this one. Name a black superhero whose name doesn't include the word black or have electricity powers. I mean, I can do it because I'm a comic book guy. But it's funny because the average person can't do it. Does Falcon have those powers? So Falcon, it counts, but some people try to argue that because he's got robotics, I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, he's the guy with you.
Starting point is 01:34:36 He's like, so because like robotics have electricity in it. That's just cheating. Some people have tried claiming, but there's a like, there's still robot. No, no, no, no, no. Plus you'd say he's Captain America too, so there you go. He's Captain America and Falcons. See, I named two. It's funny because most of the known superheroes that are black or either black something.
Starting point is 01:34:54 Black lightning. lightning or they have electricity powers. Miles Morales, do you know his electricity powers? Does he really? Yes. He can electrocute you. I did not. Why did they do that? Why does Spider-Man have electricity powers? Because there are spiders that can shock you. Oh, okay. So they were like, you know, give the black kids some electricity powers for some reason. It's like, all right. Blade? Yeah, blade counts. That's a good one. Yeah, yeah. Wesley Snipes, man. That's great. Yeah, I can't think of any other, any others. What is the, you know, it's not black Spider-Man, but there's like a black. Miles Morales.
Starting point is 01:35:24 Yeah, he's got electricity powers. Okay, yeah, that's hilarious. People are saying static shock, no, he's electricity powers. It's literally shock in the... Spawn, John Stewart, the Green Lantern. I started re-watching the Spawn animated series recently. It's so messed up.
Starting point is 01:35:38 It's amazing. Everybody should watch it. Mr. Terrific. What do you mean by so? She's awesome. He's one of my favorite characters. I mean, it's dark noir, like, in a way where it's not just...
Starting point is 01:35:49 Hank Man. Oh, man. Who's the theater, man? Who's the theater, man? was just in the Superman movie. Oh, that's Mr. Triffick. Mr. Triffick, okay. Mr. Triffick is awesome.
Starting point is 01:36:02 Edgithi's awesome. Yeah, yeah, Mr. Trifick. He's basically just Batman. It's like there's 87 characters that are just basically Batman. It's like he's a rich guy who built technology. Well, I mean, that's their shortcut is to explain why he's got all the technology and the free time to do what he's doing. And the free time.
Starting point is 01:36:18 Because if he's got to go to a job, it's like super, that's like half of what they have to sell Superman on, right? Superman's stories aren't always inherently interesting because he's so OP that you can't do anything about him. So you have to threaten Lois, and maybe he's going to get fired if he doesn't get a story done in time. Same with Spider-Man.
Starting point is 01:36:35 You know, he's got to go out and take photos of himself. He's going to get fired if he doesn't get it done for time. It's funny. We, long, long time ago, there's a show on YouTube called Death Battle, and it's a show where you have two pop culture icons and they score off and they end up fighting, right? It was a show that started on a brand.
Starting point is 01:36:52 I started a long time ago, and it's still going almost 20 years later. But the issue that the guys behind it always had was Superman was so strong that he literally couldn't lose. He was boring. Did they do the video about Deathstroke versus Deadpool? On positive, yeah, yeah. Oh, that's amazing. I love that video.
Starting point is 01:37:11 Which basically was a clone. Yeah. So that's why they did it because they're like, basically Deadpool ends up maugging him and Deathstroke's still a better character. Yeah, but Superman, I think they did Superman versus Goku three separate times and every single time Superman
Starting point is 01:37:25 would win. What? Superman can't be Goku? That's what makes it work, I guess, right? He's invincible. Like, the word invincible has a meaning. He cannot be hurt, you know? So it's not a question of power level. It's just like, no matter what you do,
Starting point is 01:37:42 you can't hurt him, you know? Let's just be real. Goku can blow up planets. Superman can't do that. That's silly. I don't make the rules. I wasn't a part of the show. All I know is that they did it three times,
Starting point is 01:37:54 and your explanation is why that show is so viral and successful. Because people go, no, no, no, no, no, exactly. It's like if you're looking for an answer to a question, on the internet, don't ask the question, post the wrong answer, and you'll get all the right responses. It's funny because you look at these, like, back when Yahoo answers used to be a thing or Quora, you'd have all these questions that never get answered.
Starting point is 01:38:17 But then all you've got to do is post the question, log in, post the wrong answer, And then people, woo. Welcome to the internet, boys. Yeah. I mean, who in their right mind thinks Superman can beat Goku? Ultra instinct. Is that a joke?
Starting point is 01:38:30 Come on. I don't even know. Bro, Vegeta blew up a planet when his power level was like 13,000. Are you kidding? His power level is like $78 billion at this. Over $9,000. Everything you're saying? That was a long time ago.
Starting point is 01:38:41 And actually, the original number was $7,000. But when it translated, they said $9,000. Okay. Everything you're saying is why the comment sections blow up in those videos and why there's... Intentionally be wrong? Make a video, it's like, here's why Batman would lose to every super villain ever. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:55 And they'll be like, no. Batman wins. That's actually a really good idea. Just make a channel that. Wage bait content. That does superheroes and the obvious loser wins. They've made a very successful career out of it. I'll tell you that much.
Starting point is 01:39:10 I actually had an idea of using AI to create, like, settle internet beefs online and do the exact same thing. You get your, you know, your Hassan Piker versus Kaya. or whatever and have him fight. He's a dog. Right, right, right, right. Just have them fight against each other, see who wins. And Hassan basically, you know what he does?
Starting point is 01:39:31 When he powers up, he gets struck by lightning like Shazam or Raiden, and then it puts on his communist outfit, which is like, it's like the Gucci necklace and all the super nice clothes. No, he's got the, he powers up with like the dog zapper. He can shock you. He clicks the button and it shocks him.
Starting point is 01:39:47 And then he's dressed like Raiden. culturally appropriating. Exactly, because races too. You know, get it all in there. Yeah, I don't know why people even say that Superman is unable to be defeated when, you know, he's in. He's beaten all the time. Lex Luther's a guy and he figures out how to beat him. Not to mention, you got Metallo.
Starting point is 01:40:11 Only with Chris. Whose heart is kryptonite. Come on. His heart is crypto. Goku's whole thing is that he's too powerful. and he always finds a way to power up. And it's like at this point, he's transformed 73 times. It's like, none of it even makes sense anymore.
Starting point is 01:40:25 It's like he's got ultra instinct. What is that? He just knows how to fight perfectly. Oh, okay. Ultra instinct. That's what it's called, yeah. So it's just the king of O.P. then. I don't, I didn't never watch Dragon Ball Z.
Starting point is 01:40:37 Yeah, Dragon Ball Super introduces ultra instinct. So they're just like constantly finding ways to be like, be stronger now. When they did, when Zachary Levi did the show, Chuck, that's what happened when he had the the intersect in like put in his brain where in the in the first iteration of the show it just uh all the government secrets were like put into his brain first of all would you ever do that why would you ever put all the government secret in one version of brain which sounds insane wasn't it like an accident like no well uh no it was sent to him by by somebody that he knew and then he he did it by accident but it was actually supposed to be used just not on him but then in the second iteration of
Starting point is 01:41:10 the intersect it actually can like download skills into your brain yeah and the show just never did anything with it. It's just kung fu all the time. It's like that's just boring. Because like you want to actually see somebody learn kung fu. It'd be cooler if it's like he has to learn botany at some point because he's got to like develop a remedy for something. And you could do cool montages. You have to McGiver's stuff because like McGiver was too heavy with it. It's like every episode he figures out I'd turn a toothpick into like a gun. That's the best thing. I love that. Yeah, but like once or twice. You know what I mean? And then they were like just the
Starting point is 01:41:42 original McGiver it's fine. But the remake it's like, oh the remake. I'm the lone apologist in the world for all of the horrible CBS remakes of the classic shows. I love them and I love the reason Quantum Leap got a remake. I didn't watch them. I am, but I didn't watch it. But yes. I didn't even know there was a
Starting point is 01:41:59 McGuver remakes. Have you seen McGuver? Yes, the greatest person of McGiver ever, yes. Walking around to the celery up his ass. Yes. McGruber is the best. I'm looking for one. All right, we're going to go to your rumbull Rans to chat. Smash the like button. Share the show with everyone in your life.
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Starting point is 01:42:41 This rant goes to Zeno Saga. Anyway, here's Nashville. That's good. That's a wonderful deep cuts. Thank you very much. Mahong to you, normal man. Tuna Fish says here in PA, you don't need an address to register to vote. You literally can draw a map of an intersection.
Starting point is 01:42:55 My nine-year-old loves to watch with me. She wants to know why you wear the same shirt every day. I take it off. I put it on the chair. I leave. I come back. I put it on. I do the show.
Starting point is 01:43:03 That's how it goes. It's cool in here because we keep the air conditioning quite low because of all. If the AC's turned off, all of the lights and everything overheats the room. So it's just on. all the time and, you know, we keep it cool. I will say this. I am freezing right now. You're sitting right in the worst. You're in the worst place. You're comfortable in the beginning of the show.
Starting point is 01:43:25 We've got a couple of racist jokes that I can't read until the uncensored portion, but we will. Incensored it is. Right. Comis are not people, says, we need to go into these cities like Portland, Minneapolis, and do to those cities what they did to Fallujah and Hugh City. Wow. I completely disagree. Very aggressive. I would just like, you know, like Trump to send law enforcement to arrest criminals. Yeah. I got friends in Portland, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:43:49 We don't need none of that. We just need actual law enforcement. Just let the police do police things. We don't need the Marines and marine things. Chinese Communist Authority in the U.S. is not. This is from LG Bales. The immediate threat. The immediate threat is the Islamic takeover of our government.
Starting point is 01:44:05 Is that a thing? There are people that are making that argument. Meaning local jurisdictions. Yeah. So, you know, there are. Minneapolis, Dearborn. Dearborn, there's some talk about people in Texas that are concerned. Yeah, wasn't it like Indiana's building a bunch of mosques despite not having a Muslim population?
Starting point is 01:44:24 Same thing in Texas. Texas, yes, very much so. I live outside of Dallas and it is very much a thing. You go to Costco on a Sunday, my oh my, there's scent of curry. And that's not hyperbole at all. I mean, I'm being dead serious when I say that. I love curry, though. Me too, but it's, listen,
Starting point is 01:44:44 It is a, if someone will use the word invasion, I would not disagree. It has changed drastically in the last 10 to 15 years. That's, uh... Likin, Lichen, is that what is? I've seen sword art online. I'll pass on the reading and writing of my brain. Do you guys know sword art online? No.
Starting point is 01:45:05 It's, uh, correct me if I'm wrong, but people are playing a video game where you can, like, plug your brain in, and then the, like, the coder of the game shuts off the exit, so everyone gets trapped inside. Oh. And then you're stuck in some virtual reality or something? Yeah, I don't know. And then he, like, does bad things to you. Yeah, that's why I'm not putting on the helmet there, Tim.
Starting point is 01:45:22 Yeah, that's a thing. That's the risk. Yeah, yeah. You know? Danger, Will Robinson. Joey Giggle says there's a Black Mirror episode. They use a sensor and put you in the game. You can feel everything.
Starting point is 01:45:32 Long story short, two friends bang each other. If Incells get this, it'll be sex all the time with bros. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's two, two like college homies play, and then one guy chooses the female character, and the guy chooses a dude character, and then they just start banging. And then they try,
Starting point is 01:45:46 they try hook it up in real life. And they're like, no, it doesn't work? I'm not gay. Like, let's go back in the game. God. Is it gay if your buddy is a V-tuber avatar and you're banging in your crazy virtual world?
Starting point is 01:45:56 Yes. It's gay. Yes. Just this is actually settled internet while. It's gay. Oh, no, I agree. And then it ends with like, he has an open marriage of this wife
Starting point is 01:46:06 and she takes her ring off and like bangs a random guy while he bangs his dude friend in a girl body. Is it a movie? Yeah. And then like, yeah, it's black mirror. Oh. And then in it, the dude is like, he's like, I've tried, I've tried hooking up with tons of people. And he like banged a panda or something.
Starting point is 01:46:22 It doesn't work. I got to be with you, man. He's like, but I'm a guy. And he's like, but not in the game. It's gay. Very weird. Indeed. Literally.
Starting point is 01:46:31 It's gay. Mason says in 10 years, Democrats will be calling AI space voting, calling AI space voting polls a human right. What was that? In 10 years, Democrats will be calling AI. space voting polls. Okay. A human right. Well, I mean, look, there are crazy people that are talking about
Starting point is 01:46:50 that believe that AI are already sentient and they should have rights. I think that is absolutely insane. They are just machines still. All right. Force name change says, I just want to say AI music is wonderful. There are so many cover versions of songs I love done in styles I didn't know I wanted until I heard them. And they're all over YouTube.
Starting point is 01:47:12 It's crazy. You can get like duop versions of Lincoln Park. Yeah, I mean, and those songs were written by people initially, though. Like the genre of music that your, you know, your song is in is like, that's like the spices or like, you know, but like the actual music itself, the song is good. You can have an R&B song or a country song. In fact, that happens all the time. R&B artists and country artists will perform the same song because the song itself is good. So you can just go ahead and add whichever flavor you like, which is, I mean, we have a great.
Starting point is 01:47:44 old record for doing a cover of the Thunder Rolls because the song's a good song, you know. Right. Look at our last night, you know, the band, they made a whole career off of covering different songs that were pop and their middle. When you think about, when you comes to, like, AI generation of songs, the idea that, like, this is it. Like, let's just say 2026 is the end of the input of new, you know, you can say the 80s had a distinct sound, the 90s had a distinct sound, you know, whether it's 80s R&B or rap had a distinct sound versus 90s, So there's all these different genres and subgenres. And let's just say, hypothetically, if this is the direction we're going, it's all stopped.
Starting point is 01:48:21 So you have to, you know, there will be no growth or advancement at all in music at any point moving forward because it's just going to pull from everything from this point behind. All right. Quantum Strange Quark says if ACB wasn't affected by the threats, then she wouldn't have even mentioned the story about a child commenting on the bulletproof vest. Correct. Yeah, she's compromised. And she should resign. It's not going to happen, though, because I think it's because people are just, it's ego. She's a Supreme Court justice.
Starting point is 01:48:50 She can't leave. But she'll equivocate and justify and compromise. Well, to get to that level in your life, right? You had to have been on the fast track your entire life. People like that, they're the ones who had five-year plans when they were in, when they were starting college. And then they had a tenure plan. Like, you don't get there by accident. No.
Starting point is 01:49:07 No. All right. John Kristen says, good suggestion is a friend of Phoenix Ammo. Green Beret sniper Gary Melton of Paramount Tactical. He is also local to the studio area. Oh yeah. Do you guys know who that is? I don't know whom, no.
Starting point is 01:49:25 All right. What do we have here? Someone had a baby? R.J. McIntyre Jr. says, to keep with tradition, my wife and I just got home from the hospital with our new daughter. Let's go. Congratulations. Here's an important one from Zimamaru. In the upcoming DB Super arc, one of the most powerful beings the universe breaks his hand
Starting point is 01:49:44 punching Goku's chest, back to the future. Wait, wrong show. Oh, sorry. Yeah, that's a reference for our show. We had a big battle for the, it culminated today with the greatest movie franchise and history, and it came down to, well, the final three were Lord of the Rings, Star Wars, and Back to the Future, and Back to the Future beat Star Wars. So the finals was Lord of the Rings versus Back the Future. Lord of the Rings blew it out and ended up winning, which set up a final showdown tomorrow of Lord of the Rings versus Airbud. I'm going on. My money's on Airbud. Yeah, me too. I hope so. That'd be great.
Starting point is 01:50:27 Just for the comments. Reese Kane says ACB failed to know that when you're nominated for SCOTUS, you have to be ready to throw down with murderous intent. Yikes. I mean, look, I saw someone posting about this earlier, the attitude that Justice Thomas had when he was in his hearings, you know, Joe Biden and the Democrats were, you know, there was the whole alleged scandal and stuff.
Starting point is 01:50:57 And he was like, you know, I would rather die than withdraw, you know, and to have that kind of intestinal fortitude, you know, you should have that kind of commitment if you're a Supreme Court justice. And clearly Amy Coney Bear does not have that. Indeed. Joe the Chainsaw says hello Timcast crew and honorary Timcast tradition me and my wife recently got home
Starting point is 01:51:19 with our newborn baby everyone please welcome our little boy Joseph Jacob and thanks for saying hi to his grandpa in Fairbanks at Pike's Landing well shout out congratulations we got so many babies today yeah good news man
Starting point is 01:51:32 so many babies who was your guest nine months ago just curious because it's all winding up yeah let's see Caledore says, Tim, you're wrong about CNN because the rest of the world pays attention to it. That matters because if it is disrupted, then you disrupted the whole strangle.
Starting point is 01:51:51 That's CNN International, which is right, but it is different from the CNN we watch here. The Internet International is a lot of, like, nature documentaries and stuff like that, you know. Mr. Anderson says, Brett looks thinner than I remember. I have nothing more to add to the discussion. Thank you, I think. Brett is thin. That's a good compliment, man. Looking great.
Starting point is 01:52:11 Set it before the show. Especially considering the fact you gave up sugar for it. Or most sugar. You do like 20 push-ups for us right now, just because? I could. I know you could. Losing weight doesn't mean that you've worked on your upper body strength. That's true, yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 01:52:25 He looks like he's worked on his upper body, you know? He's a good-looking guy. All right. Paul Diver says, we've all heard the dead internet theory. What about the zombie AI where it all cannibalizes by absorbing derivative data of each other? Yeah, that's a thing. If I understand correctly, they're concerned about, you know, AI. actually becoming, you know, like Xerox, the more copies, the more it references things that are errors from AI,
Starting point is 01:52:53 the more errors that it will produce. That was one of the theories given. So one of my favorite shows of all time is person of interest, which is about dueling AIs in the later two seasons. And I always thought, I guess mild, spoiler alert, about the way that they deal with it at the end involves a computer virus. And I said, I felt like that was, the last season was rushed. It felt like there could have been a more elegant. way of doing things to finish the show. And so I asked AI, how would you solve this problem of the two warring AIs?
Starting point is 01:53:23 And that's actually one of the solutions that it gave. It can't be a computer virus. It has to be something else. That's actually one of the suggestions that the AI gave me on how to stop an AI. Just errors. Yeah. All right. Another baby.
Starting point is 01:53:39 Tony Mahalo says, please help me welcome our fourth child of the world. born 7-6 for 1776 of course appreciate you all in the hard work relocating to Winchester and hoping to check out the new coffee shop God bless congratulations babies let's go babies for days congratulations all right all right what do we have here dragon ball super uh what does it say da underdog do underdog gooku stopped vegeta's planetary blast pre super saying one Goku from jose Dragon Ball is waxing Superman. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:18 So for those that don't know. No, I don't know. Goku from Dragon Ball probably wouldn't beat Superman. But in the beginning of DBZ, when they introduce Vegeta, so first it's, what is it, is it, Radic? What's his name? I don't know. And it's been, it's been 30 years, man.
Starting point is 01:54:36 So, uh, Vegeta is shown, Virginia Napar shown coming to Earth and to like show you the scale of their power. He points his finger and blows a planet up, and they're like, oh, this is the biggest threat Goku's ever faced. And then when he's fighting, Vegeta's like, I'll just blow up your whole plan and then fires an energy blast and then Goku stops it. Superman can't get anywhere close to that. Batman will figure it out. I just rewatched Justice League Doom. It's the one where Vandal Savage gets his hands on a list of all the ways to defeat the Justice League members that Batman keeps.
Starting point is 01:55:06 Oh, yeah, yeah. And they're like, why did you have these in Batman's life? It's like, are you insane? Like, of course. And then the best part is at the end of that he won't apologize. They're like, they're all, like, butt hurt. They're like, why would you do that? He's like, you guys are like, you could destroy the planet.
Starting point is 01:55:19 Are you insane? Like, I'm not apologizing for that. Yeah. Yep. All right. What do we got here? What is this? Richard Slammer says, Craig, I am begging you.
Starting point is 01:55:31 Hook up Timcast crew with Kirsch. Kyrsha. Kyrsha. She's a V-Tuber, super-based. If you ever want to know anything about Bridge. Bridge. Bridge. Yes.
Starting point is 01:55:43 DEI exponentially worse. It's what DEI has been rebranded to. All the corporations got out of D.EI requirements. They shifted it to bridge. Yes. Kyrsha is a... She cannot be in the studio with you, unfortunately. But she is spectacular.
Starting point is 01:56:00 An AI? She's V-Tuber. She's a vice v-tuber. Yeah, yeah. She's great. So what does that mean? It's like a person that uses a fake? Uses an avatar.
Starting point is 01:56:09 Yeah. He's in an avatar that she just, she streams with. And, you know, there was a period where the top 10 super-chatted shows were all V-tubers except for us. We were like number six right in the middle for some reason. And then I found out because someone posted like all of the top super-chetted shows are anime wifu's except for Tim Kastairal. And I was like, what? It was like a non-political thing that was pointing it out. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:30 And I was like, wow, that's weird. Yeah, she's, it's true. V-tuber fans are spectacular. They are very faithful. Kyrsha is probably a leading voice when it comes to the pushback on DEI, bridge, all that stuff. So if I just stop doing my morning show and then just use like a filter to be some like big titty anime wifu,
Starting point is 01:56:51 I probably get way more views. You would make so much money. It's crazy. It'd be like she's so hot. I follow Kirsham. She follows me too. Kier's great. Let me know.
Starting point is 01:57:00 Have you guys ever seen surrogates? No. You haven't seen surrogates? I feel like a house. And it's like in the future, everybody stays at home. and they go into a pod that allows them to remote control a robot body.
Starting point is 01:57:14 You never seen it? No. So there's like a guy and a woman are making out outside of a bar. Someone pulls up on a motorcycle and blasts them with this crazy device
Starting point is 01:57:21 which fries the robot's brains. And so the police are like that's vandalism. Someone destroyed a couple of surrogates because the point of surrogates is keep you safe. So they're like, it's this blonde woman.
Starting point is 01:57:30 We're going to go to her house. And they go to her house, but it's actually like a 400-pound morbidly obese man. Right, right, right. Yeah. That's that's the future. You know the funny thing is though in like VR It's not going to be that
Starting point is 01:57:41 It's not going to be that it's not going to be a 400 pound man Who's a young blonde woman You're in the VR it's going to be a carrot A what? A carrot There is going to be a carrot with gigantic knockers Walking around with big googly eyes and gigantic knockers And you're going to be like hey And it's going to make sexy voice
Starting point is 01:58:01 But it's actually going to be like a 400 pound guy What is the ultimate attribute that will be added to all AI men pretending to be women online to make money. Is it boobs? Is it but? Well, the best part is like, OnlyFans is over. Oh, yeah. These young women are going to be like,
Starting point is 01:58:18 I'm going to do porn. It's like, yeah, nice try, dude. It's just going to be dudes using AI, like sexting dudes. The amount of Indian dudes who have made a killing on making AI versions of OnlyFans is insane. That's crazy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:33 By the way, to answer your question, I answer my question about who was on the show nine months ago, was Jack Posovic. So that's why so many babies are being born. Nine months to the day. He would actually be proud of that. Helping to, you know, helping. I want you to go to your wife right now,
Starting point is 01:58:52 and I want you to impregnate her. Abe was right. And nine months later, there was just a ton of babies. Four babies, let's go. Too many. So many babies. More Americans.
Starting point is 01:59:01 You know what I think? I think the entire economy is predicated upon having kids. And I think that's like an obvious statement. but what I mean is dudes go to work because they have to, and if they don't have to, they don't go to work. So when you have luxury combined with no kids, the dudes are like, I'm going to play GTA, I don't care. So there's no reason to go out and do things.
Starting point is 01:59:18 So what happens is you have dudes who normally would be like, I have to get the food, I have to buy the toys. And so the economy kept churning because everybody had to work. Now dudes are just like, eh, it's going to sit at home. Make just enough to get by. Yeah. And so economics, there's a massive down swing because nobody has to work.
Starting point is 01:59:37 They just got to get the bare minimum. Or they just live with their parents. All right, everybody, we're going to the uncensored portion of the show at rumble.com slash Timcast. IRL. So smash the like button. Share the show. Tell your friends about it. If you do like it, leave us a good review on the podcast platform.
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