Timcast IRL - SHOTS at Southern Border, Cartels FIRE On US Border Patrol Agents w/ Josh Seiter

Episode Date: January 28, 2025

Phil, Ian, & Libby are joined by Josh Seiter to discuss gunfire being exchanged at the southern border between the cartel & CBP agents, Colombia backtracking on their decision to not let US deportatio...n flights land, JD Vance shutting down a CBS reporter defending illegal immigrants, and Selena Gomez roasted for crying about deporations. Hosts: Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) Ian @IanCrossland (everywhere) Libby @LibbyEmmons (X) Serge @SergeDotCom (everywhere) Guest: Josh Seiter @josh_seiter (X) Josh Seiter was a reality TV personality and former Bachelorette contestant known for his work as a model and social media influencer. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 there have been shots fired at the u.s mexico border um it's no surprise to anyone that donald trump's signature policy was sending the illegal immigrants back to their countries of origin. And it seems that there are people that are taking issue with it, whether it be the cartels in Mexico or Colombia. But we've got all that tonight. We're going to start by talking about the gunfights at the border. The U.S. Border Patrol is exchanging gunfire with the mexican cartels this is something that i think every american should care about because these are things that actually can spill over into the rest of the united states because uh cartels and and you know um organized crime that kind of stuff actually will seep into the rest of the country if we're not careful. Colombia got into a beef with the United States
Starting point is 00:01:07 because we were sending Colombian illegal migrants back to Colombia and the Colombian president was not going to receive the planes and that lasted for like 10 hours because the United States just flexed a little bit of economic power over them, which is a little soft power, which is something the United States should be doing. But to see that kind of behavior work so well and so quickly speaks about the previous administration. We're going to talk about that. J.D. Vance got into a wonderfully heated debate with uh who's that margaret brennan over the weekend
Starting point is 00:01:48 and we'll talk about that a little bit um andy no was reporting about the trans i guess trans german person that uh killed a vermont border patrol officer um So we're going to talk about that. Selena Gomez was crying and had to delete some Instagram story because of it. Nick Sorter was talking about Donald Trump has mentioned again at the, I guess, a GOP. Donald Trump was talking about getting rid of the income tax again. So we're going to talk about that. And, uh, we've got some, something about Nicole Wallace crying and, uh, Google maps is chain is going to change the, uh, Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America. Uh, but before we get into that, go on over to cast brew.com and buy some coffee.
Starting point is 00:02:47 Um, tonight we got ian here ian how many how many bags of graphene dream have you sold oh oh all told probably like six thousand five thousand i think there's like a hundred left uh as of yesterday or something i checked 140 left maybe if you want that click on it it'll tell you how many there are available 137 good grief get them they're gonna go out of stock soon go grab some ian's graphing dream you can go get some uh what else do we got the uh appalachian nights which is actually my personal favorite that's the one that i i drink normally um the rise with roberto jr is back in stock um what else do we have got phil's holiday blend is it still available i mean you know you know. Sell yourself, baby. Look at that outfit.
Starting point is 00:03:27 Yeah, you know, I think it captured my holiday spirit nicely. If you want to head on over to Booney's HQ, you can buy Skate Decks, the new 28th Amendment Skate Deck that Tim has put out. It reads, The 28th Amendment, chickens being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep, bear, and breed chickens shall not be infringed. Everyone has the right to grow their own food.
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Starting point is 00:04:32 that you're dealing with is Ian's fault or not. But yeah, so why don't we go ahead and get started tonight. We've got Josh Sider here. How you doing, Josh? Good to see you. How's it going, man? Thanks for having me. Who are you and what do you do?
Starting point is 00:04:48 I am an internet troll and provocateur. And so I just talk about a lot of things, including gender ideology and a lot of other stuff. All right. Well, thank you for coming to hang out. Libby's here. I'm Libby Emmons. I'm with the Postmillennial. Glad to be here, guys.
Starting point is 00:05:06 Yeah, I'm happy to be back, man. Wish it could be under better circumstances. Tim, wish you the best. Tim's out with a dental surgery, healing up as we speak. Tim Poole, the man. Phil, thank you for hosting tonight. Thank you. Good to meet you finally, Josh.
Starting point is 00:05:18 We also have Serge on the buttons. He's not going to introduce himself. He doesn't like to talk at all. I'm Ian Crossland. Very happy to be here. Check me out on YouTube at Ian Crossland. I just posted a video a couple days ago that we are in a golden age right now.
Starting point is 00:05:29 It's an interesting time to be alive. Our production capacity is enhancing as we speak. But let's get down to the stories. All right. Don't forget, smash the like button, share the show with your friends, and let's get right into it. U.S. Border Patrol agents exchange gunfire
Starting point is 00:05:43 with Mexico drug cartels um this actual video here this was taken a few days ago this is a u.s citizen that was shot by the cartels um and if i understand correctly he was just hiking and just caught a stray i don't know if they were shooting at him or if they were just being buck wild and and shooting but newsweek reports u.s border patrol agents near fronton texas reportedly exchanged gunfire at the southern border with suspected drug cartel gunmen from mexico there were no injuries in the incident near fronton island an uninhabited island in the rio grande in star county texas according to reports the island is a disputed territory about which texas and mexico
Starting point is 00:06:25 have made conflicting ownership claims newsweek reached out to u.s customs the department of homeland security u.s border patrol and the texas department of public safety via email for comment news nation's ali bradley reported that while the suspected cartel has fired shots from the mexican side of the territory for years things in the area have escalated in unprecedented ways since donald since president donald trump was elected even giving orders to shoot at agents recently so if they're receiving orders from the cartels which i mean ostensibly the guys that are you know the the the foot soldiers or what have you they're the guys that are they are taking orders from the higher-ups if the higher-ups are actually giving orders to shoot at american you know border patrol
Starting point is 00:07:12 and likely in the future american soldiers and marines i mean what does that say about the u.s posture towards the cartels they've been designated You know, do they have to start worrying about, you know, airstrikes? Because honestly, it's not like Mexico can stop us. Well, it's interesting. It shows how silly the whole situation is, especially what the left is saying, that everyone coming here is just, you know, innocent and that there's nothing we should be afraid of. But at the same time, they're tacitly admitting that it's very dangerous there. There's violent people there. But we're supposed to believe that everyone coming and flooding into America are going to be model citizens and are completely innocent. And I think it just shows the type of people that are there on the other side of the border. And it justifies
Starting point is 00:08:01 why Trump has taken the stance he has taken, which is we don't know who these people are that are flooding into our country from this dangerous country and we should get rid of them. And so I think it just proves that what Trump's doing is the right thing and that the people coming over aren't a bunch of innocent model citizens. Yeah, I think that's interesting, too. And that's something that I think a lot of the Democrats are pressing is that there's this idea that the people who are crossing the border are all innocents, right? They're all just people seeking a better life. And I think that that is so, you know, that's so poorly thought out, because these are people also that are paying human smugglers, you know, the cartels to bring people across. And they're coming from all over the world with nefarious purposes. There were already people coming across with terrorist plots. J. all over the world with nefarious purposes. There were already people coming across
Starting point is 00:08:46 with terrorist plots. J.D. Vance was talking about that yesterday on CBS. There was somebody who was trying to do a terror attack in Oklahoma. So I think that we've seen that it makes a lot of sense for Trump to refer to the cartels as terrorists. And the terrorists, the terrorist cartels think of themselves that way, too.
Starting point is 00:09:06 The gang, what is it, the Venezuelan gang, Trend de Aragua, they have an open policy that you can, if you're part of that gang, you can go ahead and shoot law enforcement. That's part of it. That's part of what they're doing. And to think that they're not also sending some of their cartel members in as just migrants, to think that they wouldn't do that is beyond naive. Of course they are. We had an open border policy.
Starting point is 00:09:33 You better bet they're sending tons of people over into our country. I've talked to some people on Twitter about this or on X about this, and I've essentially floated the idea that the United States has spent the past 20 years dealing with terrorist organizations like this. Now, the U.S. is exceedingly good at dismantling terrorist organizations like this when it comes to the action of dismantling the politics aside. Right. You talk about what happened in Afghanistan after the Taliban was the Taliban was was, you know, expelled. And then you're like, OK, well, there were problems afterwards. And then you talk about what happened in Iraq after the Iraqi government was taken apart. And then they, you know, basically subdued Iraq to a large degree.
Starting point is 00:10:20 But then the politics got involved and the the rules of engagement became a problem the united states can and also what the united states did to the to isis the you know the islamic state completely you know annihilated like took them out almost entirely but when the u.s leaves then you have a power vacuum then these organizations can come back but with a situation where you're the u.s isn't going anywhere you know it's not like the u.s is going to go back like if the u.s were to begin operations in mexico and work with the mexican government to actually route out the um the cartels it's not like the u.s is gonna leave there's the United States is still right there. You know, if they're if they're sending people over the border, the U.S. is not going anywhere. So the idea that the U.S. could leave and, you know, essentially fumble the ball on the, you know, the peace is what's what usually is how it's characterized um that's not really an option this time and so the thing that people bring up is well you know we're going to see terrorist attacks by the cartels in the u.s
Starting point is 00:11:30 and while that's totally possible um it's not like that wasn't a possibility when you were dealing with other terrorist organizations i mean the whole war on terror started because 3 000 people died on 9 11 like that's what set the whole thing off, an actual terror attack in the US. And there were a handful of attempts and some that were actually successful. You know, the Pulse nightclub comes to mind. And then most of them were random, you know, individuals like lone wolf stuff do you guys think that the united states first of all should actually get in into that kind of action with the um with the cartels because if you think of it like a hundred thousand people a year or something like that die of fentanyl and there's
Starting point is 00:12:18 probably a million people in in in some kind of being trafficked somehow over the border. Half a million of them are kids that are being raped multiple times a day. Is this something that the U.S. should actually start to do to start to work with the Mexican government, try to get them to actually clean up their government because they're all in bed with the cartels and actually start taking out the upper echelon of the cartels. I think they definitely should, but it's silly to do anything in another country if you're not going to protect your own border and prevent them from coming over here. Why are we sending soldiers to other countries to fight and die if we are just going to allow
Starting point is 00:13:00 them to come into our country carte blanche with zero repercussions? Why are our soldiers fighting anywhere if we're just going to leave our border open? So first, we need to secure our border. And then yeah, Phil, I think absolutely, if we have to send them over into Mexico to do some kind of operations, then do that too. But we need to do both. Do you think that the Trump administration is going to put the effort in to do what it wasn't capable of doing. I think personally, I think that there's a mandate from the American people, right?
Starting point is 00:13:29 The American people are significantly aware. Like there's a general awareness that there's, you know, at least 10 million, probably 20 million illegal immigrants that have come over the border. And the border is a real problem. Do you think that the Trump administration is going to do this? They already did in his first week last week. They sent 10,000 troops with military grade weapons and airplanes and helicopters over to the border. So that right there says, yes, he's going to do something that we're only seven days into his presidency. Have they sent artillery down there yet? Well, I don't know that artillery is actually the right piece of equipment. If you do need something that's – because artillery is really –
Starting point is 00:14:08 artillery generally tends to be like area denial. So you'll shoot artillery rounds, and those will explode over an area meant to take out large groups of infantry. It would be more likely that they would have drones AC-130s and that kind of something that's more precise than artillery because artillery artillery takes out large areas like with this gunfire if a foreign country is firing across our border at American citizens that might go on for a little while until the artillery strikes begin or until it's just like, take the area out, level it. I mean, I can see this thing escalating really, really fast and the rest of the world, people that don't like the United States getting involved through the
Starting point is 00:14:54 Mexican side, it becoming an all out war on our border, 30 miles, 180 miles away from the border is just no man's land. Like, I would not want to be living near the border right now if this thing is looking like a war is about to open up on our southern border. We haven't had a border war since 1812, I think. I think that's right. Before the age of, like, artillery, really, it was, like, cannons and stuff. Now we've got, like, I don't know how long range
Starting point is 00:15:19 these artillery are. You could probably shoot 1,000 miles with these stupid rockets. No, artillery, if you're talking about guns if you're talking about artillery they top out around 20 30 miles if i understand then you got like rocket artillery rockets rockets are rockets are different and missiles are cruise missiles and stuff like that i feel the fervor of 9-11 right now where people like go get the go get the terrorists go get them go get them but it's on the border it's not like it's over there where the collateral damage that we create is actually to
Starting point is 00:15:43 our benefit it's i don't know ma'am i don't know that collateral damage was to our benefit i feel like collateral damage is generally to our detriment because nobody wants this is this might be the the first war against terror that is actually beneficial domestically yeah you know because we would be preventing uh massive gangs from coming in and destroying, you know, the U.S. population with fentanyl and other drugs from bringing children across who really shouldn't be anywhere near this situation from all of the rapes, all of this stuff, all of the extortion. And there's already there's lots of reports, too, of people once they get to the U.S. having being forced to pay back the money that they gave
Starting point is 00:16:27 that they paid that the cartels spent to get them across the border. And that's how they're pressed into domestic servitude, which is a big problem that no one ever talks about. I mean, everyone talks about sex slavery and prostitution and forced prostitution, but there's a lot of domestic entrapment as well. I mean, there was a there were a group of people in Queens that were like deaf, illegal immigrants working in a hotel room in Queens. And they were they were not allowed to leave. That was a few years ago. I remember that story. So I think that it would be useful. I don't know that the government of Mexico is particularly open to working with Trump at this point. You know, they've balked at the tariffs. So is the
Starting point is 00:17:06 Canadian government. But I think that I think that what we've seen with this whole situation with Colombia, too, where, you know, the president of Colombia refused to take back a plane of illegal immigrants. And he said, you're not treating these people with dignity. Well, you know, what's not treating them with dignity is is making it so that people don't feel comfortable to stay in Colombia. Right. And the U.S. enacted a free trade agreement with Colombia under George W. Bush that reduced tariffs on the U.S. for exports to Colombia. And the U.S., I think there was like a 35 percent tariff on American goods going to Colombia that got reduced. And part of the deal was to revitalize the Colombian economy so that people wanted to stay there. So what has Colombia done in the past 15 or so years? Have they done anything to help
Starting point is 00:17:55 that situation? Have they done anything to make their citizens want to stay there and revitalize their own country? Just speaking as an American, I don't want to go to some other country and make that country better. I really just want my country to be better, you know, and maybe like, that's a little overly patriotic and simplistic, but that's what I'm interested in. And I feel like if I were from some other country, that's what I would want to, you know, if I were Colombian, I'd be like, that's right. I'm Colombian. This is my nation. I want it to be awesome. Why would you not want that? And so the president of Colombia said, you know, if I were Colombian, I'd be like, that's right. I'm Colombian. This is my nation. I want it to be awesome. Why would you not want that? And so the president of Colombia said, you know, you're sending people back on military flights.
Starting point is 00:18:31 That's so undignified. How could you do that? You have to treat our people with more dignity. He hasn't treated them with any dignity when they cross the border illegally and come into other countries and ditch their passports at the border or whatever else they do to try and claim that they're asylum seekers or whatever else. And so when Trump was just like, fine, you don't want to do it. That's a 25 percent tariff. Oh, you're going to talk back some more. Now that's 50 percent. Oh, you still won't accept your own people back to their home, to their country where they were born. Now we're not going to issue diplomatic visas,
Starting point is 00:19:05 you know, get your people out of the country. Oh, you still don't want to do it? Now there's sanctions on your family. So the next thing that the president of Colombia did was he said, oh, OK, do you need my plane to help you? And he offered his presidential plane to help. You mentioned the Colombian president and Donald Trump sparring. So why don't we talk about that? Go to the story.
Starting point is 00:19:27 Colombia backs down on accepting deportees on military planes after Trump's tariff threats. Colombia has walked back from the brink of a damaging trade war with the United States, reaching an agreement on accepting deported migrants being returned on military planes after a flurry of threats from President Donald Trump that included steep tariffs. Columbia said Sunday evening it had agreed to all of President Trump's terms, including the unrestricted acceptance of immigrants who entered the U.S. illegally after two U.S. military planes carrying deportees were blocked from entering the country. We will continue to receive Colombians and Colombian women who return as deportees, guaranteeing
Starting point is 00:20:10 them decent conditions as citizens subject to rights. Foreign Minister Luis Gilberto Murillo said in a televised statement, he added that U.S. deportation flights had resumed and the Colombian presidential plane was being prepared to assist in repatriating citizens. The idea that the Colombian president actually meant the problem is the digs that they are flying in is is they're not good enough. I don't buy it for a second, but I do think that this speaks to how influential the United States is. People in the U.S. don't realize how much soft power the United States has. We don't have to threaten combat with everybody. Now, the leftists on X will go ahead and get it into a tizzy every time Donald Trump
Starting point is 00:21:01 makes any kind of threat. But these threats are are heated and the other countries that are that are being threatened actually move because the United States is still the economic powerhouse. The United States still has the reserve currency of the world. So they have to move. Well, Phil, it's carrots and sticks. And I feel like everyone's forgotten about that in the last three or four decades. We used to use carrots and sticks. And guess what? It's OK to use sticks sometimes. But I feel like the left, that woke virus, has ruined people's brains where they think they can't do anything that might offend somebody.
Starting point is 00:21:40 So they're always too afraid to use a stick. And I think Trump is really showing, like you said, we are the greatest superpower on earth. It's okay for us to flex a little bit of muscle and use that stick from time to time. And this is the apotheosis of it. And it shows that it works and it's effective. And I hope he keeps doing it. Yeah, I mean, the the idea that the United States shouldn't try to get better deals out of other countries because it might offend someone, I mean, that's so detrimental to the United States. That's not really America first. It's not just not America first. It's America last, which is – that was a meme idea going around the internet.
Starting point is 00:22:22 But that's really the way that the democrats have behaved it's as if the democrats believe that we are wrong for being as powerful as we are we are wrong for when we try to be a world leader we are wrong whenever we do things that benefit the united states because we're so rich and so powerful everything to the left is some type of marxist power dynamic and because the united states is the dominant power in the world anytime the u.s uses that power even soft power again i'm not talking about getting into military conflicts but when the united states uses the soft power the united states is the bad guy for for having the audacity to try to get deals that are beneficial to the United States.
Starting point is 00:23:05 And now these just taking back your your I don't know. I don't know if they're well, I mean, I assume they're all they're all criminals to some degree because these are the people that are getting sent back right away. Just taking back your criminals. That is not something that the United States is out of line for saying, hey, take back your criminals. And I feel like the left always has paralysis by analysis. They're so busy thinking about how this thing might offend somebody and how this might percolate out and it might, you know, disparately affect some marginalized group. We need to stop thinking like that. Just do.
Starting point is 00:23:41 We have an objective. We need to achieve the objective. What's the most efficient way we can achieve that objective? And stop overanalyzing everything. But I feel like that's all the left does. And like you said, they seem to be hell-bent on putting us last. And I'm glad that we finally have a president that seems to show how easy it is to actually just put us first. It's not that hard.
Starting point is 00:24:01 You also said something about when the U.S. tries to use like soft measures to get changes. When we use soft measures, they call us Satan. So we like, you know, whenever we like try and do something like play little games and do things diplomatically, everyone hates us anyway. Yes. OK, yes. You know what I mean? Like they still they'll call us the godless Satan of the United States because we like tried to do something diplomatic here in Lebanon or we tried to do something sort of conciliatory over here in South America. And so if we're going to be if we're going to just be evil Satan anyway, we may as well just go for it and like do do everything the right way and just get it done as quickly as possible. Yeah. I mean, considering the way they hate us now, they hate us anyway. Like, just do it. Yeah. I mean, the the successes that the Donald Trump administration has had in this past week have been remarkable. Like, he's really, really made some moves and things have all turned out just the way that Donald Trump and by extension, the American people want.
Starting point is 00:25:05 And so I think that this is this is a ringing endorsement of the policies that he wants. And it hasn't it hasn't even taken tariffs. All it's taken is negotiation. But the left and the Democrats don't even have the stomach for negotiation. What's great, too, is Trump doesn't have to negotiate. He doesn't have to even take very much action at all. All he has to do is spout off. He doesn't even have to spout off on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:25:33 He just has to spout off on Truth Social and say stuff. Everyone goes crazy and he gets his way without having to do anything. Yeah. He just has to say stuff. I mean, I do miss him on X, though. Well, sure. I wish he'd way without having to do anything. He just has to say stuff. I mean, I do miss him on X, though. Well, sure. I wish he'd come back to X, too. I mean, we have the new rapid response team now. They're back on X. That's going to be an interesting, that'll be interesting. Speaking of X, I saw a great quote on there today. It was by someone named Antonin Scalia,
Starting point is 00:25:59 but I thought he passed away. But it said, everyone's so afraid of offending their enemies. Why? Why do you care if you offend your enemies? It said you should be doing I thought he passed away. But it said, everyone's so afraid of offending their enemies. Why? Why do you care if you offend your enemies? It said you should be doing what's going to garner you the respect of your peers and just do the right thing. Why are we so afraid of offending our enemies? I don't know, but the left seems obsessed with it. Like Steve Bannon says, pray for your enemies, you know?
Starting point is 00:26:23 Yeah. But don't try to get them to like you. Why are we always trying to get our enemies to like us? I just don't. It's such an odd thing. A concern I have in that vein, I guess maybe I can see it from their perspective for a moment, is that if you make too many people hate you, the tide may shift and you may become very quickly no longer a superpower like if there were an invasion from the north and the south and the east and the west nuclear
Starting point is 00:26:50 it would go nuclear but how would that happen? there was like Chinese attacks, missiles fired, like if cities got hit all at once like in a night and we lost New York, Washington DC, Los Angeles yeah but all of those places would get instantly nuked. If we lost all those cities in a night, and we lost New York, Washington, D.C., Los Angeles. Yeah, but all of those places would get instantly nuked.
Starting point is 00:27:06 If we lost all those cities in a moment, like overnight, that would be— All of our nuclear sites are elsewhere, though, are not even in there. But we would still fight back. That's the thing is the deterrence of force would probably make that not happen, but we would no longer be the superpower after that if that were to happen. What is the positive result for any country that initiates a nuclear war with the United States in your in your mind? False flag. Like if you make it look like someone else did it, get the U.S. to strike back at the wrong person.
Starting point is 00:27:32 What I'm what I'm saying is what would the whatever country. So I don't know how and you can't do a false flag with an all out nuclear exchange. Right. Like you can't like china can't shoot all of its missiles and be like it was russia right and either way like like that's just not possible if you the the logistics of attacking the united states because of the the atlantic and pacific oceans there is no you can't be like you can't do it under cover of darkness and hide it well you have nuclear submarines off the coast. Nobody has enough nuclear submarines to take out the United States.
Starting point is 00:28:10 And there's... It's not about... Oh, sorry to interrupt, man. Well, and nuclear submarines... Like, a lot of times, nuclear submarines are shadowed by other nuclear submarines. So there are hunter-killer class submarines that all their job is to do is follow behind the nuclear submarines of other countries. Like, I don't think that it has happened by any means that too many people have been pissed off where they're like, all right, the liberal economic order is now done at 1207 AM. But
Starting point is 00:28:36 because we're all still on really good trade relations with a lot of the world, but that would be the concern is if we pissed off, even our European allies, our South American allies, we're obviously Russia's ready to go for the throat, the Chinese would be the concern is if we pissed off even our European allies, our South American allies. Obviously, Russia is ready to go for the throat. The Chinese would be happy to see the United States fall over its own shoelaces. Do you think that Russia is actually a threat considering how much they're overextended, how much damage they've taken just fighting Ukraine? Do you think that they're actually a direct threat at all? I don't think the amount of money that we owe to china china's not really there's no incentive for china to actually also we're their biggest exporter they they like without the united states buying their
Starting point is 00:29:13 you know the cheap chinese crap we buy yeah like without the without the u.s buying them they go into a recession and possibly a depression and they've got one and a half billion people in that country so they like the chinese communist party has to keep the population subdued to a certain degree. They don't have the military to actually suppress the population. They have to do it economically. I feel like a lot of problems and even more problems result when you try to appease everybody. That's why we have a fentanyl crisis in this country. That's why we have over 11 million undocumented migrants in this country. That's why we have a border war going on almost. There's a lot of
Starting point is 00:29:49 problems that result when you try to appease everyone. And I think Donald Trump's definitely taking the route of breaking away from what the Democrats have been doing for the last four years. And I think it's working. The only reason I'm asking Ian this question is because I want, I really do think that your concerns are not really something you have to worry a whole lot about i'm trying to like allay your your fears and stuff because really the united states is like there's not there are no countries that have an incentive to actually get into a a confrontation with the United States. Every country on earth will do whatever they can to avoid a confrontation with the U.S. What I've been thinking is like if we went to blows with the cartels in Mexico and it turned into like an Afghanistan where we just invade and take it over because the government's
Starting point is 00:30:38 incapable of doing anything for us. So we have to establish our own puppet government. That might piss off the rest of the world to the point where they're like, this country has overstepped. I don't think anyone would care if we invaded Mexico. I honestly, I don't think so. I think if we took over Canada, that would probably be a little more problematic. That's a British kingdom. I think the UK would be mad if we took over Canada and they might come at us with their
Starting point is 00:31:03 little stabby knives or something, you know? But hasn't Mexico invaded us effectively? Yeah, I mean, but I think also if we took over Mexico and we subdued those cartels, everyone would be like, oh, I guess America's getting a little testy. I mean, you know, what's next? I think you're, I do kind of think you're right. The rest of the world, at the very least. I mean, what was the last time that Mexico was involved in something international?
Starting point is 00:31:28 Wasn't that memo? Wasn't there like a... You know, the last time they almost... I forget the memo. The last time they almost did was World War II. Right, with that memo. The Germans were talking, like, yo, we're going to come over there. And that was the last time.
Starting point is 00:31:40 Yeah, that's it. I mean, Mexico doesn't have any any type of military that could stand up to the United States. They can't even stand up to the cartels. Exactly. And so I think that if the United States decided that they wanted to go into Mexico, get rid of the people in government because of corruption and actually prop up a government and go after the cartels, I think that the argument that the government, that the United States government could make is at least as compelling as the argument, actually probably more compelling than the argument the government made when going into Iraq.
Starting point is 00:32:18 Just because of proximity. There are southern neighbor. How much more important could it be? The primacy of that is evident. There are southern they're attacking they're continuously attacking our our population the government of mexico does not stop country uh people that are that are traveling through the country to to invade the united states when it comes to immigration you know illegal immigrants they've done nothing to stop it they've uh they've uh they've helped. They have a government that is entirely corrupt. Like the cartels are in control.
Starting point is 00:32:50 They kill journalists. They kill like mayors, not even just like, you know, big people in the federal government. But like if the mayor of a town the cartel wants to control doesn't comply comply they'll kill him they're brutal absolutely brutal at least as brutal as the terrorists in in you know isis or or what what have you so i the argument that not not that i'm endorsing this but if the united states decided they were going to i think the united states could make a better argument for invading mexico ousting the government saying they're not you know they're not a real government ousting that government, saying they're not a real government, ousting that government than the argument made for going into Iraq.
Starting point is 00:33:28 Mexico just, they acknowledged that they got 4,000 deportees back during the first week. And they're concerned about it. But, you know, I don't think that there's anything that they can really do about it. And what's interesting, too, is I saw this journalist saying like, it's not fair to these other countries to just drop a whole bunch of people on them. Unexpected. That's what's happening to us.
Starting point is 00:33:52 Oh, okay. Is that not fair? Super don't care. You don't super don't care. I really don't care. Margaret. I really don't care.
Starting point is 00:33:59 Margaret. That's a, but it's funny because 4,000 people, we get like quadruple that in an afternoon. 10 million in four years. At least 10 million. Probably 15 million in four years. It's over 2 million every year.
Starting point is 00:34:12 And that's just the people who were accounted for. That's not the people who never came into contact with anybody or didn't surrender themselves or didn't apply for asylum or any of those other, you know, CBP One app or any of that stuff. I feel like it's always rules for thee and not for me. Like they always want us to abide by these things. And the hypocrisy of it is, what do you mean we can't do that? They've been invading us for the last four years by the millions, and that's okay? And all these nations don't care.
Starting point is 00:34:38 You know, Scheinbaum, Claudia Scheinbaum, president of Mexico, she said what we ask for is respect for human rights. What have you been doing, girl? They've been bringing fentanyl into our country. Where's the respect for our children's human rights? No one cares about our kids' human rights. Or Americans' human rights. Or anyone.
Starting point is 00:34:52 Like any of that. Yeah, I think that the idea that, you know, any other country, particularly, you know, in South America and south of the U.S. border, I don't think that any of those countries are in any position to criticize the United States at all. Most of them have basket case governments. Right. Most of them can barely handle their own population. They're very, very frequently some crazy form of socialism that just doesn't work. They rewrite their constitutions every decade or so because people are miserable. They have constitutions that are hundreds of pages long because they're just essentially giving, they're saying that everybody has a right to everything.
Starting point is 00:35:36 And they quickly realized that just putting a right on paper doesn't make it materialize in the world. Wait, socialism hasn't worked a single time that's weird i thought it was the best thing ever i know this is but this this speaks to this speaks to an actual a real phenomenon is that there is such a strong leftward left-leaning in most of the world there is there are very very few if, right-wing governments. Well, Germany might be looking at one of those soon. It's possible that they might. But if you think about the past 20 years. Would you call Islamic extremists right-wing?
Starting point is 00:36:17 Maybe. In which case, Syria and Kazakhstan. Saudi Arabia might be right-wing because it's a monarchy. Monarchy, right. There are a handful of legitimate monarchies in the world still. And I think that those probably would be the clear right wing governments. But the ones that make all the noise complaining about the United States, they're all leftists. They're all and the arguments they make are always leftist arguments oh you're
Starting point is 00:36:46 oppressing us you are so powerful and we're so weak and it's always the marxist power dynamic and the united states needs to just ignore that stuff and behave as the superpower that it is because the u.s does have the ability to influence other countries just with soft power. We don't need to get into, you know, conflicts with other countries. Most of the time, the U.S. has plenty of power to influence just with, essentially, with carrots. You know, hey, look, we won't do this. And maybe it is a little of the stick, but it's not like, you know you know not combat so well and i think it's interesting too that you know leftist ideology in theory sounds appealing yes but you know a few centuries ago with adam smith writing wealth of the nations and then later anne rand we understood that capitalism was the way reality needs to work because all the incentives run in
Starting point is 00:37:43 the right direction so it's interesting that leftist ideology still has such a hold on people's minds, even here in America in 2024, when we've seen throughout history that it just doesn't work. It's good in theory, but in reality, we know what really works and we keep rejecting it. And I think Donald Trump is going back to what really works. And I think it's time we ditch the kind of leftist head in the clouds. It seems like capitalism is pretty awesome. Least worst system ever been tried by humanity that I can tell economically, except and it's not perfect. I'm not saying just get rid of it, but like generational wealth things.
Starting point is 00:38:20 Unfettered capitalism can be pernicious and is not good either. That can lead to a lot of corruption. Yeah. So you tax the wealthy families more, but like, okay, wealthy family has a kid. They give their kid all their wealth. It makes sense. You want to give your kid your money. Poor family has a kid. The kid's eating dirt, picking through feces for seeds so he doesn't starve to death. Wealthy family has a kid, gives him the best education, the best food. He has the greatest IQ because he's healthy. And then that all of a sudden creates this disparity between humans. And you're like, how come that guy over there is nine and he gets a bicycle and I don't? And so that's, I think, where this ideal, this leftism comes from.
Starting point is 00:38:56 Adam Smith noted that in Wealth of the Nations and noted that unfettered capitalism could lead to some really bad things. And so that was laid out there. And so no, I don't think anyone's advocating, even Milton Friedman or Thomas Sowell or anyone would advocate for completely laissez-faire unfettered capitalism. But at its base, it works a lot better than these leftists. We also have in America, we have pretty much the, I would say the only country in the world where you can start out eating dirt, envying your friend's bike, and rise to be a rich man, right? Rise to be president, rise to be captain of industry. So even with generational wealth, if you look at the way that
Starting point is 00:39:40 that wealth works, it usually only lasts like three generations. That's why in the UK you have all of these aristocrats who are broke, right? That's like a thing. That's like a joke. It's like a, it's a joke. It's a joke in the UK because that happens. But here in the US, you can be poor, you can grow up poor, and you can rise to the top. And I think that's something that we don't see anywhere else. It's something that we see with the benefit of the social contract. We see that with the benefit of capitalism and with a lot of the social programs
Starting point is 00:40:13 that we do have in this country. Like for a long time before it got totally infiltrated, a really good public education system. You know, I think about my grandparents who were the children of immigrants. My grandmother went to public school in Brooklyn, New York, and in public school, she learned opera. She learned Italian. She learned French. She learned all of these things. She graduated early
Starting point is 00:40:38 and ended up going to Hunter College, another public school. And she graduated that to become a teacher in Brownsville, Brooklyn. She grew, you know, her parents were, they owned a grocery shop. They had immigrated. They got here with nothing and they managed to end up owning a grocery shop. One thing that happened was my great grandfather opened his grocery shop on 34th street while in Manhattan. And when Macy's came in, Macy's wanted to buy out the whole block. So they bought his grocery shop. He got money from that because he had, you know, he had something he could sell, move to Brooklyn, open a new shop. And then, you know, the next thing, his granddaughter is an attorney, you know, working for the SEC. You can work your way up in this country like nowhere else on earth. And so I think that while what you're saying is true about, you know, poverty and all of that stuff, and that that being a problem with capitalism, I think that's true. But I also think that we do have a fix for that here that we haven't seen anywhere else. We can probably keep making it better. But I don't think that we can make it better by pushing equity so that just every kid gets a bike.
Starting point is 00:41:45 Because that kid eating dirt who wants the bike, maybe he's going to get a summer job. You know, maybe he's going to get a summer job working at 7-Eleven, save up for that bike. He's going to like getting paid every other week and he's going to work hard his whole life. And so that's something, too, that we're seeing. If we, you know, there's a of hard-working illegal immigrants in this country should they all be getting the jobs instead of that poor kid eating dirt you know who was like born in Detroit raised there and there's also something this is a question too like can we can we do better for our citizens yeah by prioritizing them and And, you know, we are the culmination of our experiences too.
Starting point is 00:42:26 So the idea of kids have to learn to go to work and learn to save and learn to do things, if you just give them stuff, and we see this happen a lot with people that win the lottery and stuff. They don't look at... Like MC Hammer. If you're bad with money,
Starting point is 00:42:46 if you don't learn how to manage your money and you're just handed a boatload of money, you'll squander it and stuff. And kids that are just handed things, they don't see the same value as when they have to work for it. So I do think that you've got a lot of... There's substance to your point,
Starting point is 00:43:02 but I think that, like you said, it's the least bad system that's ever been tried. And I think that it's the only system that really does allow upward mobility. There's the public education system. It has evolved now, I think, to the Internet. Like it used to be you kind of feel like the education was given to you. You're sent to a spot and then it's given to you by the teacher. Now you have to go get it. You have to to a spot and then it's given to you by the teacher. Now you
Starting point is 00:43:25 have to go get it. You have to seek it out. And it's there. All the data, it's available to learn for kids. And you don't have to wait for everyone else in your class to figure it out because you can do it as fast as you want now. But you have to go get it. You can't wait for it to be given to you. I mean, I don't know. I think that's true. You don't think that, I mean, in public school doesn't, I mean, the public school still has, you know, lesson programs. And if you go to school, no, they don't. No, I mean, not really. One thing that public schools have that every kid comes home with
Starting point is 00:44:06 a Chromebook and their homework is IXL or any of these programs where you have the computer teach you. One thing that I think is really missing, and I was talking to my son about this the other day, is I had teachers, right? Like I remember my teachers and what they taught me. I remember my fourth grade teacher and the way she taught me multiplication tables, you know, Mrs. Fife. It was very difficult. But I remember these teachers that I had who were passionate about teaching and passionate about the information they had and the knowledge that they had and the books that they loved. I had a teacher in high school, Peter Renke, and he gave us this list of books that were like, you need to read all these books in your life.
Starting point is 00:44:55 It wasn't just do this for my class, pass the test. It was these books. And I'll never forget what he told us. He was in World War II. He was a soldier in World War II, and he loved paperback books. He always had a paperback in his back pocket, and he said they fit perfectly, and he was never without a paperback book. This is like this kind of teacher who is just passionate.
Starting point is 00:45:18 They are, I'm sure, out there, but in a lot of ways, they're stifled by this common core computer-generated educational programming that it's hard to break out of. And it's hard for kids to find their passion when they're being taught by AI programming. Well, and they're also being taught like propaganda. Me and my brothers were homeschooled our whole lives. So my brothers were yanked out of elementary school. I was like two or three years old, and I was homeschooled my whole life along with my brothers. And that's because in the late 80s and early 90s, I was born in 87, my brothers were already being sent home with propaganda books. And my parents saw the writing on the wall, and they knew what was happening.
Starting point is 00:45:58 And they were having disputes with the elementary schools called Thomas Paine in Urbana, Illinois. And they said, nope, we're teaching you at home. We've had enough of this. So we're homeschooled our whole life until college. I went to high school for one year, my sophomore year, because I begged my parents to let me go. And think about it. That was 20 years ago. And think how far the public education system has fallen since even then. And this all started in the late 80s and early 90s and it's just going to keep getting worse we're going to jump to this story here vance clashes with cbs host margaret brennan during fiery debate over refugee program paused by trump go ahead and play
Starting point is 00:46:37 this it's very short but it's worth watching i don't think we should abandon anybody who's been properly vetted and helped us do you stand by that well margaret i don't think we should abandon anybody who's been properly vetted and helped us. Do you stand by that? Well, Margaret, I don't agree that all these immigrants or all these refugees have been properly vetted. In fact, we know that there are cases of people who allegedly were properly vetted and then were literally planning terrorist attacks on our country. That happened during the campaign, if you may remember. Oh, did they cut i sent you the clip you sent it was that not the same one i sent you a a longer there are so many good moments from this interview it was awesome jd just holds the line i think as asmongold if you follow he's a gaming streamer probably the
Starting point is 00:47:18 most famous gamer streamer online he was saying this is the video this interview is an exemplification of why vance will be president in 2028. I just sent it to you again. Well, I told someone, it reminds me of when Matt Gatz was confronted about why he made comments saying that all the people at anti-abortion or pro-abortion rallies were fat and overweight. And the interviewer said, don't you think some people would find that offensive? And Matt Gaetz said, be offended. And I think that's the line that Vance is taking here. I don't agree that all these immigrants or all these refugees have been properly vetted. In fact, we know that there are cases of people who allegedly were properly vetted,
Starting point is 00:48:00 and then were literally planning terrorist attacks on our country. That happened during the campaign, if you may remember. So clearly not all of these foreign nationals have been properly vetted. But there are 30,000 people in the pipeline, Afghan refugees. But my primary concern as the vice president, Margaret, is to look after the American people. And now that we know that we have vetting problems with a lot of these refugee programs, we absolutely cannot unleash thousands of unvetted people into our country. These people are good. These people are vetted, just like the guy who played a terrorist attack in Oklahoma a few months ago. He was allegedly properly vetted. And many people in the media and the Democratic
Starting point is 00:48:34 Party said that he was properly vetted. Clearly, he wasn't. I don't want my children to share a neighborhood with people who are not properly vetted. And because I don't want it for my kids, I'm not going to force any other American citizens kids to do that either. No. And that was a very particular case. It wasn't clear if he was radicalized when he got here or while he was living. I don't really care, Margaret. I don't want that person in my country. And I think most Americans agree with me so that the I don't really care. Margaret has already become a meme. I actually retweeted one of my one of the better memes about it. But I think that that is it speaks to the opinion of a lot of people in the US nowadays. They don't really want to hear the excuses from people on the left, the media, who've absolutely destroyed their credibility over the past, you know, five years or so. They don't want to hear your excuses.
Starting point is 00:49:28 They don't care about you rationalizing this or saying, well, you know, if you look at it this way, then crime is down. Or if you look at it this way, then blah, blah, blah. They don't care. And I think that J.D.'s I think J.D. Vance really kind of, you know, has his finger on the pulse of America. I think the media and the left in general, so used to everyone kowtowing to them that they're always shocked when someone's like, no, you're not going to guilt me into anything, and I'm just going to tell you the truth, and I don't care if people are mad about it or you're upset about it. And so I think, again, Trump is kind of setting the standard with his administration of just doing something and making no apologies for it.
Starting point is 00:50:07 And I think if you don't play the blame game and the guilt game with the left, they lose a lot of power over you. And I think we're seeing that. Yeah, that's the thing about shame is it doesn't do anything if you don't feel guilty about what they're trying to shame you over. Yep. And I think it's working and I love it. I love that JD Vance is doing that. And Trump, I mean, Trump does it on another level too.
Starting point is 00:50:31 So people are, have a, can you bring that, bring that up search the, that mean, so people are sharing things like this. And honestly, you know,
Starting point is 00:50:40 like I said, I think that this is a, this is going to be a meme that's going to have legs there's there's a a handful of them that uh have really caught on and i i really think i don't really care margaret is something that you're going to hear a lot from people when it comes to criticizing stuff you'll see it all over x you see it all over x already but um yeah, I think that, look, you know, nobody wants to hear the left anymore. They lost big in the election. They lost the presidency, the electoral college.
Starting point is 00:51:12 They lost both the House and the Senate. They don't have the court, the Supreme Court anymore. And almost every single, like Kamala Harris picked up up zero uh counties i think i don't think she picked up one county in the election i don't think so so i it's she lost she lost stuff that biden had gained oh yeah she there i mean i think that i think it was like something like 11 counties in california went republic there was one that hadn't been republican since 1890 and it finally went republican if that doesn't show you how ineffective Kamala was. But these people want us to shed tears over the migrants. And it's like, there is literally
Starting point is 00:51:51 a fentanyl epidemic in our country. People are dying. Families are being torn apart. 11 million plus migrants here, hundreds of thousands of missing migrant children, 50,000 illegal migrants in Chicago since August of 2022, and up to 200,000 in Chicago, my city, right now. And you want me to make apologies for the fact that we're sending them back? Again, I just don't play their shame game. Don't feel guilted by them. The only people that should feel guilty are the ones that are saying these people should be able to come into our country and destroy it. They're the ones that should apologize. They're the ones that should feel guilty for the fentanyl epidemic, not us. Yeah, I don't see the types of things that the left has, so adamantly pushing. I don't see them being persuasive anymore. I think not only is it something that your average normie, and by
Starting point is 00:52:52 normie, I mean the kind of person that, you know, consumes maybe an hour of news per week, you know, they grab their news while they're grabbing breakfast as they're also trying to get the kids ready for school or whatever. That person has kind of noticed, hey, this is this is the situation that's going on with illegal immigration is bad and and the Republicans messaging has really gotten through. So I think that that the average normie is is already on the the kind of the MAGA side as it is, first of all. And then second of all, the Gen Z is really strongly, at least the Gen Z young men are strongly right wing. How post election is the mainstream media still so out of touch with the average person? A lot of us thought they were going to realize the error of
Starting point is 00:53:40 their ways and go, you know what, people don't want propaganda. They just want facts. They want us to report the news objectively. How, going back to your normie, how is the mainstream media still so out of touch with everyday Americans? It's kind of like if there's a bunch of little, I don't know what you call it, leeches sucking off of a fish and then the fish dies. There's a little period of time where the leeches continue to suck off of the dead fish. That's a good analogy. Yeah. They're trying and yeah they're trying to they're like they're not yeah when will they see the error of their ways do you think the mainstream media will ever get that they are out of touch
Starting point is 00:54:14 with the average seven months do you so i feel like you know um legacy media like msnbc look they're not changing they're always going to be the left. Even if viewership drops 50% like it has been, they're still going to peddle the same lies. Well, they cut the salaries of Rachel Maddow and Joy Reid and some other people instead. So when are they going to realize that it's not working? There is always going to be some market for that perspective, even if it's not, you know, the dominant message. Right. And I think that I think it's probably likely that, you know, they're going to live in that space, you know, indefinitely. They made their brand the left. They're the cable news left. And I think it's possible that CNN will move away. I don't know. It might take a little more time. I think CNN doesn't have the same kind of commitment to the left the way that the way MSNBC does.
Starting point is 00:55:14 They've been trying a little harder. CNN, they got Scott Jennings out there. They've got what's his name? I forget his name. But anyway, they have a couple of people out there but then you have people like chank and anna from the young turks who have come around and they're like you know what no i'm not with the left anymore and i i think more journalists singleton sure michael singleton yeah it's good too i so when it comes to chank and anna i feel like Anna might actually become more of a normie. I'm not sure if Cenk is. I think Cenk sees the writing on the wall monetarily. I think Anna, because Anna has a personal experience. Yes, she does. Or multiple personal experiences.
Starting point is 00:55:56 Very personal, yeah. You know, like the whole birthing person thing and getting attacked for just saying that. You know, she was getting the whole Euronazi, because the left just goes straight to you're a Nazi. There's two speeds where they love bomb you and then as soon as you do something they don't like, well, then you're a Nazi.
Starting point is 00:56:13 You're literally Hitler. So who are the normies now? People that don't watch news. People that don't watch news are the normies. That's what I think. Yeah. And that's because I think that it's normal to not be like wrapped up in the news.
Starting point is 00:56:24 We live in a bubble. I think it's, when I say, and that's because I think that it's normal to not be like wrapped up in the news. We live in, we live in a bubble. I think it's, I think. It's really a pleasure though. And like, I take Saturdays pretty much entirely off and it's such a pleasure to just be like, just breathe normally. Yeah. So I think the people that are like, you know, the people that have normal jobs and live normal lives and aren't constantly, you know, they, maybe but i i mean i don't know i don't know i know it's like just overall sports viewership is down um and i'm not sure where those people have gone but i do think that like the normies are the people maybe they're here
Starting point is 00:56:57 may um i mean but then i don't think that there's been a significant expansion of like the people with a political appetite has there i don't know i mean remember when trump was campaigning and he said if you vote this time you don't have to vote again yeah he was like he was like they wigged out but what he meant was i'll get the country back on track and you can just chill you don't have to worry about it but the left said he wanted to establish a monarchy with those remarks which was was ridiculous. I don't think that's what he meant. He didn't. It's exactly what you said.
Starting point is 00:57:27 Yeah. The left is, you know, histrionic about everything. And I think that most people want that. I really think that people got—part of the reason why the left got beat so badly is people are tired of hearing that everyone's a Nazi, everyone's evil, that the people that disagree are the spawn of Satan. You're a racist. You're a bigot. You're transphobic for thinking a man can't magically become a woman because he threw on a dress. It's people are it's not it's lame.
Starting point is 00:58:00 It's like you said, it's not working anymore. It's just it's lame it's like you said it's not working anymore it's just it's not effective so i think the left needs to find maybe debate people on the merits in the facts instead of trying to guilt them with ad hominem attacks all the time um i don't know when the left's gonna learn their lesson but the they're still doing the same thing we'll probably pull this article selena gomez leaned on her emotions and with this crying video and then deleted it within, I don't know, six hours or whatever, because apparently her fans had some backlash. It's when you see the waves of violence perpetrated by illegal immigration, by particularly people that have come into the country illegally, maybe even claiming asylums from somewhere, but just getting in here and then taking over a hotel or killing a girl like that, that talks to the normies and the people that aren't like they're just kind of they feel instead of think their way through life a lot of time.
Starting point is 00:58:52 But that that makes you think, realize like, OK, let's let's like slow down this this illegal immigration. I'm going on a little much. Phil's got the video pulled up. This might be worth watching, actually. Yeah. So from the postmillennial, Selena Gomez cries for Mexicans illegally in the U.S. facing deportation and now deleted post. All my people are getting attacked.
Starting point is 00:59:13 The children. I don't understand. I'm so sorry. It's because they were here illegally. Selena. Pop star Selena Gomez took to Instagram in a now deleted video to lament the deportations of illegal immigrants under the Trump administration. Tom Homan, Trump's anointed border czar, has implemented a mass deportation program to remove illegal immigrants who have gone to gone on to commit additional crimes during their time in the United States. Selena Gomez, what are you doing hanging out with criminals? Gomez cried on camera
Starting point is 00:59:45 saying, I just wanted to say that I'm so sorry. All my people are getting attacked. The children, I don't understand. I'm so sorry. I wish I could do something, but I can't. I don't know what to do. I'll try everything, I promise. Look, again, the people that are being deported at this point, right, they are criminals. They are going and rounding up people that have criminal records that have committed crimes in the United States. And I'm not, we're not doing the whole, you know, they're here illegally. So that makes them a criminal. I'm talking about, you know, they, they, they have said that they're getting the worst first, like they're, they're getting the people that have committed serious crimes that have been, you know, committed larceny, theft, assault, murder.
Starting point is 01:00:29 They're getting those people because those people are in lockup and they're going to the jails and they're saying, do you have any illegals in here? And they're rounding those people up and shipping them out first. So the people that are getting sent away, if they are Selena Gomez's people, Selena, you are hanging out with the wrong crowd. So let's see if we can take a listen to this here. I just wanted to say that I'm so sorry. All my people are getting attacked. The children. I don't understand.
Starting point is 01:01:10 I'm so sorry. I wish I could do something, but I can't. I don't know what to do. I'll try everything I promise. I mean, yeah, all my people are getting attacked the children hyperbole act a lot of hype she's
Starting point is 01:01:27 like a paid actors she's a singer and was pretty so she became famous she dated Justin Bieber so she became famous that's who she is yeah she was Justin's girlfriend when they were like 15 or something and uh she's obviously not very intelligent if she says some things like all my people are getting attacked. It's not true. It's hyperbole. It's ridiculous. And she's emotionally out of control.
Starting point is 01:01:49 So just a disturbing, disturbing expression from this person. I'm glad she took it down. She later deleted the post. But in repost of the video, she was roundly mocked on X. Gomez from Texas is of Mexican and Italian ancestry, with her grandparents having emigrated to the U.S. from Monterey in the 1970s. Legally? I would hope so. I assume so.
Starting point is 01:02:11 Legally? Savannah Hernandez says, Selena Gomez is a billionaire who is surrounded by security, has zero idea of how dangerous the country has become due to illegal immigration, doesn't care enough about American women or children to say, to know they've been getting raped and murdered at the hands of, hold on a second here, hands of her people and is now crying from the comfort of her mansion about how we're all horrible people are waiting for wanting a safer country. Disgusting behavior. To think my people are the Germans, because I'm of German ancestry, for instance, to think that those German people are, my people are my neighbors, are the people that I'm of German ancestry, for instance, to think that those German people are my people are my neighbors are the people that I wake up and see and talk to.
Starting point is 01:02:49 Those are my people, the people I'm surrounded by. Bloodline doesn't mean jack, man. You got to get over that crap. Well, and it's symptomatic of the brain rot on the left, like we're talking about earlier, where they don't understand what the normal person's going through. We have to deal with the repercussions of these people. I live in Chicago. I see them outside my Whole Foods, outside my Jewel, outside my Mariano's, and outside my Target. I saw a girl who couldn't have been more than 11 or 12 years old, who was about eight months pregnant, a migrant, begging with her entire family. I see all of this stuff. I'm affected by it. A lot of people listening are affected by it. Selena Gomez in her mansion in Calabasas isn't affected by it. So she can sit there and pontificate and tell us that we're all a bunch of narrow-minded,
Starting point is 01:03:37 xenophobic bigots, but we're the ones who have to deal with it. And again, I just think it's- Maybe her cleaning lady got deported or something. Exactly. They're just so out of touch. Peachy Keenan posted on Twitter that somebody she knows' nanny got deported. So, I mean, I get that. I remember when I was in high school
Starting point is 01:03:57 and my little brother had a nanny and she was from Poland and she was here illegally and there was all kinds of... She disappeared one day and everyone was like, did she get deported? What happened? She just left. But she didn't say anything.
Starting point is 01:04:09 It was weird. But yeah. So I think the other thing about the Selena Gomez video is she's saying all the children. Yeah. And exactly all the children. Like exactly. The Biden administration lost, what, 340,000 children in the system. Yeah. DHS doesn't know where they are. HHS doesn't know what they are, where they are.
Starting point is 01:04:31 They haven't necessarily been sending out court notices for these people. You saw with the CBP one app and the asylum seekers that a lot of asylum seekers coming across with children and whatever else used the same addresses to say that this is where they were going in the u.s and they were vacant lots they were warehouses they were nothing so yes all the children selena gomez where are all the children that's the real question you know they've been smuggled across the border they've been bought and sold everybody that everybody around this table has probably seen the sound of freedom have you guys all all seen it? Yeah. I saw it for the first time recently, and it's rough watching the movie because apparently all the stuff except for some of the dialogue is all true. And they're talking about kids four, five, six, seven years old getting sexually abused multiple times a day. And that's the reality of the situation at the border.
Starting point is 01:05:31 Never mind the fact that 100,000 or whatever Americans have died from fentanyl, from fentanyl overdoses that have been shipped in by the cartels that they got from, they get the fentanyl from China and they ship it into the u.s the cartels run it in because it's profitable but like even if you were to get rid of the drug aspect you still got like half a million kids that are being trafficked that's that's half a million kids that are getting sexually assaulted multiple times a day. Well, where's her tears for Lake and Riley? Where's her tears for, like you said, all the... Jocelyn Nungary. The children of parents that have died of fentanyl.
Starting point is 01:06:12 Where's her tears for the people that have to, you know, live with the effects of higher crimes in their city and violent essays that are happening because of this? It's so performative, I think. I think it's all virtue signaling. I don't think there's anything genuine about it. And it almost looks scripted. I mean, it looked like she was trying to cry, but she couldn't really cry. And she was about to laugh in between the sobs.
Starting point is 01:06:35 I just think it was totally performative and she thought it would get her some likes. To yell out, oh, the children, the children. That's like when the Hindenburg was coming out and they're like, oh, the humanity. And it's like become a meme the children, the children. Like, that's like when the Hindenburg was coming out and they're like, oh, the humanity. And it's like become a meme. Yeah. Think of the children.
Starting point is 01:06:49 That was an early meme. Yeah. Oh, the humanity. It's I'm glad she deleted the poet. What happened? Her her her crowd was like, Selena, this is really bad. Well, she got she got mocked a lot because honestly, like this is something that we've talked about here. Like the United States, the people of the United states want to see people criminals deported that like i think
Starting point is 01:07:11 it's a huge number of people yeah deporting criminals is like a hundred percent deporting just deporting illegals in general is like 60 or 70 percent of the population want to see illegals deported when it comes to like actual criminal aliens it's approaching 100 of the population want to see illegals deported. When it comes to like actual criminal aliens, it's approaching 100% of the American people. And everybody that pays any attention. We can commit crimes ourselves. Only people who don't think they should be deported is literally the mainstream media.
Starting point is 01:07:37 That's the only people. The MSNBC crowd. Well, it's, it's the mainstream media, but it's the leftists because there, there are two groups, right?
Starting point is 01:07:44 First of all, they're the leftists that think that you, if you that think that if you cause crime or if you commit crime, you did it because of your circumstances. So it's not your fault. It's the system that we live in. It's capitalism. It's blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then there are the other group that don't want to have a successful society because we're capitalists, and like Marcuse says, capitalism delivers the goods. So they want to see as much volatility, as many problems in the society as possible so that way people will engage in revolutionary activities because happy people do not engage in revolutionary activities. And it's not a conspiracy.
Starting point is 01:08:25 I mean, George Soros literally funds DAs for that exact purpose, to wreak havoc and sow discord in civilized societies, not just in America, but he's also ruined the economies of, you know, 10 other countries by shorting against it. So, I mean, it's not a conspiracy to say that. And Saul Alinsky in Rules for Radicals talked about how you can sow discord and dissonance and stuff. So all of this stuff is straight out of the playbook. And like you said, the left has a vested interest in ruining this country. So, I mean, we've been talking about immigration a lot. Why don't we go ahead and move on to this one here? Nick Sorter was posting on Twitter, President Trump is calling for an end to the federal income tax. He gives the yes.
Starting point is 01:09:14 He gives a stamp of approval. Instead of taxing our citizens to enrich foreign nations, we should be tariffing and taxing foreign nations to enrich our citizens. America was great well before the federal income. The federal government took 30 plus percent of every dollar we earn and it we're going to go ahead and take a listen to what President Trump had to say. America is going to be very rich again and it's going to happen very quickly. It's time for the United States to return to the system that made us richer and more powerful than ever before. You know, the United States in 1870 to 1913, all tariffs, and that was the richest period in the history of the United States, relatively speaking.
Starting point is 01:09:50 In other words, relatively. And they set up the Great Tariff Commission of 1887. And this commission had one function, what to do with all the money that we took in. It was so enormous that they had no idea. It was a blue ribbon committee. It was set up 1887. And what to do with all of the money that we had? And again, Teddy Roosevelt was a beneficiary because when McKinley was killed, he took over this vast sum of money and he did all of those national parks and all of the other things. And I'm not knocking him, but he was given a vast amount of money. And that was all made through tariffs. We had no income tax. The income tax came in in 1913.
Starting point is 01:10:37 As I said in my speech last week, instead of taxing our citizens to enrich foreign nations, we should be tariffing and taxing foreign nations to enrich our citizens does that make sense right that would be so awesome yeah so what is uh what is the panel's opinion on i love it although there's one i i mean yes i i personally would like to not pay any income tax at all um that would be that would. They take so much money. They're so mean. So not fair. And then even when you file your taxes and you get an accountant and you pay the accountant to file your taxes because taxes are too complicated a lot of times to file yourself, which also it shouldn't be so complicated that you have to pay somebody else to do it for you,
Starting point is 01:11:24 especially when the government knows how much you owe. Like, why am I doing this? It's like $700 to pay the accountant. And then they file the taxes. And then the IRS gets back to me. They're like, actually, you owe us another $5 million. It's like ridiculous. It's not fair.
Starting point is 01:11:39 So on that level, that would be great. On the other hand, it makes sense that Trump loves the Gilded Age, which was really bad for labor. I mean, all the Carnegie's and the Rockefeller's and all of the robber barons and the train companies, they all got rich off of the backs of people eating dirt and being their friends bicycles and, you know, not being able to make a decent living. And here in West Virginia, of course, like with the coal miners, you know, that was a big issue too. Like coal miners had, they worked in the coal mines. They lived in housing provided by the company. They paid rent to their landlord, which was their boss. And they got paid a lot of times in script, which they could only spend at the company store, which is why we needed labor unions in the first place was to liberate people from this indentured servitude.
Starting point is 01:12:30 So if we could. So communist right now. I know I'm into I think I think private sector unions are worthwhile. Oh, not public sector unions. But if we could obliterate income tax by making foreign countries pay all of our bills, that would be cool. So long as we don't just exploit a bunch of American workers. I heard someone talking about a consumption tax as well. Is that something that you guys think? How's that work?
Starting point is 01:12:59 What's a consumption tax? Like you buy a boat, like Lux tax? No, no, no, no. So instead of. So instead of having a tax on making money, there's a federal tax on spending money. There's a sales tax on everything? Like a sales tax on everything. There should still not be sales tax on food. Well, what do you guys think? I don't like any kind of tax. Well, of course not.
Starting point is 01:13:22 Who likes taxes? I mean, but it's a little socialistic to take away 25 30 percent of our income so i'm not a big fan of it i don't like it um and it disincentivizes people to work hard um you know you see it all the time in your personal life it just why work harder when you're gonna go up in the you know and just end up paying they just take more and then they just take more i have a friend ever get a raise you have well that's your raise and you're going to go up and just end up paying more. And then they just take more. And then they just take more. I have a friend. Do you ever get a raise?
Starting point is 01:13:46 You get your raise and you're like, oh, there's $2 more in my paycheck. I got like a $10,000 raise. That's the thing. As you're approaching the next tax bracket, you're actually incentivized to work less. Because if you go into the next tax bracket, you have to go significantly into the next tax bracket to actually make money. Because you'll go into the next tax bracket by, know say you go in by ten thousand dollars or whatever and it's like oh look you owe an extra twenty five thousand dollars in taxes so you literally will will take home less because you went into another i have a friend who owns a small business he's a veteran it's a veteran
Starting point is 01:14:18 owned small business his name's ben wanzer in san antonio and they do commercial buildings and he was telling me not only how much money he was losing because overhead has gone up exponentially in the last four years under biden to the point that he thought he was gonna have to close a successful business down but he was scared as you said phil to go up into the next tax bracket he said there's no reason for me i'm just gonna get to get hit harder. So, I mean. My band, All That Remains, we did a tour in 2022. And then we did another tour just this past August and September. And the overhead, the expense of the tour in 2024 was significantly more than the expense in 2022. I was looking at some of the prices that we were paying for things.
Starting point is 01:15:10 Just for people, we had fewer people on the crew on this tour because we were doing a support tour as opposed to a headline tour. So we weren't carrying our own lighting package and stuff like that. And we still spent more money on overhead on this tour than we did on the previous tour. In the previous tour, I think we had like six people on our crew. And on this one, we had four. Wow. And we didn't have a lighting rig on this one. We had a lighting rig on the other one. So, I mean, like it was drastically more expensive on this most recent one.
Starting point is 01:15:44 He said the cost of his materials went up 400 percent under Biden. He said, I can't make a profit, dude. He said, I'm doing all of these big commercial buildings. He does power cleaning. He goes, I can't even make a profit. Insane. Insane. But I think I think that I mean, you know, the libertarian in me is going to say, of course, taxation is bad.
Starting point is 01:16:02 You know, taxation is actually theft. It's theft of your time. And so, you know, there's not a bit of getting rid of taxes that I'm going to complain about. I do like the idea of using tariffs, but this is something that I continuously say that people have, they have the idea that taxes pay for things the government wants to do they have that ingrained in their head and that is just not the way the system works anymore the taxation that you pay the tax money that you pay is destroyed they don't you don't pay taxes so that way the government can fund something you pay taxes to manage inflation if the government wants to do something,
Starting point is 01:16:46 the government just prints the money. Congress passes a law, says, okay, we're going to appropriate this much money. The Federal Reserve prints it up and just pays for it. So the government doesn't need to actually tax you to pay for things. The taxation is used to manage inflation. The government has two tools. They use the interest rate and they use taxation to manage the money supply. So the government doesn't need to tax you to pay for anything. So the reason they tax is so you have less money. Because they need to take money out of circulation. So literally there's no reason for it other than to make the American people poorer. So I'm all for getting rid of the income tax because they actually actually don't need
Starting point is 01:17:36 it. They just print money when they want to spend money. But then it might exacerbate inflation. I mean, look, if you there is that possibility but right now when they like right now inflation is a problem that's like sticky because it gets to the point where when when whatever you do exacerbates inflation right if you increase the interest rate right then that'll actually become inflationary at some point. So it's really difficult to get rid of inflation once you've once you've got that ball rolling. That's why we're still at like that's why they stopped cutting the interest rates.
Starting point is 01:18:14 There's actually a lot of economists in a school of thought that argue exactly that, that you actually make inflation worse when you raise the Fed fund rate. And it's actually not making inflation any better. And you actually prolong inflation when you raise the Fed fund rate, and it's actually not making inflation any better. And you actually prolong inflation when you raise the rate. And so there's these two schools of thought. And a lot of people think it's a settled issue that if you raise the rate, it's going to curtail inflation. And that's not the case. It can make it worse. It's a bet. And I'm not an economist, but it seems to me that the best option is to allow the American people to hold on to their money and actually invest it in their own businesses, in their own lives, go out and do things that spur growth and actually create tangible, real, tangible, profitable things in the country. That's a better that's a better use of the of the the money supply than for the government to take it just to destroy it to try to control inflation.
Starting point is 01:19:09 That's real trickle-down economics. I mean, look, the phrase trickle-down economics bothers me because that's something that the left came up with. It's like supply-side economics is a real thing. People say supply-side economics is BS, but they're all walking around with the most clear evidence that supply-side economics works, and that's a smartphone. Most people in here remember before they had a smartphone, they didn't need a smartphone. Now, everybody that got a smartphone, the smartphone has become an absolute necessity. Some people can remember the time a time before they had a laptop and they didn't need it. Now that they have a laptop, they absolutely couldn't live without it. So that right there is evidence that supply side economics works just because
Starting point is 01:19:54 you didn't know you like just because you don't think you need a new thing doesn't mean that a new thing that gets developed isn't going to become the most useful thing in your life? When I was a kid, my mom had all these cigar boxes. I don't know why she had them, but she had all these cigar boxes. And me and my friend Julia, who lived next door, we used to take tinfoil and all this other stuff and we would make laptops out of them. And this was in like the mid 80s before laptops existed. And we would pretend we were on a spaceship and that these were our portable computers. And we would like do stuff. Look at you, visionary. But I don't think it was.
Starting point is 01:20:34 My story indicates that it wasn't all that visionary for laptops to be created. Me and Julia wanted laptops long before they were actually invented. And so when finally like like, there were computers and all I wanted was a laptop. And I got my first laptop in 1994. And I was like, finally, where have you been my whole life? I got an Acer Anywhere little laptop. My dad got it for me.
Starting point is 01:20:57 And I was stoked because I'd wanted one since I was like eight years old. Since it was imaginary. Since it was imaginary. Steve Jobs, you're not that smart, buddy. We all wanted it. But like, and then also when the, when the iPad, when the like iPods came out, I was like, I'm waiting for this in phone form, you know? Oh, okay. Because I think, I think there are some, I think there are some technological advancements that we are all just waiting for.
Starting point is 01:21:27 Like we're all just waiting for proper jetpacks. You know? Like we still kind of want them. I mean, I like the idea, but the— Flying cars. There's a lot of stuff I think that we have collectively imagined that we're all just kind of like ready for that to be the next thing. I mean, I— I want a flying car more than I want a driverless car. I love the I like the idea of a flying car.
Starting point is 01:21:51 I mean, the traffic would get worse and the crashes would be more. I don't know that the traffic would get worse, but I don't. I wonder how. See, the thing is, like everyone that drives now, like 99 percent of the people that drive only know three rules of the road right they know the red light red light means stop they know that like yellow means fast yeah and and that's like all nobody knows what the word yield even means no one knows how to merge no one knows how to merge no one knows what the word yield means no you i guarantee like nine out of ten people don't
Starting point is 01:22:24 know what the difference between yellow lines and white lines are. They don't know the difference between. This is a benefit to having learned how to drive in my forties. Well, is that like, Oh yeah. New York. Yeah. Is that I took my driving test, like, you know, just a couple of years ago.
Starting point is 01:22:40 So I remember all of that stuff. And because I learned how to drive in brooklyn like my first highway driving was the bqe it's like i know the rules inside and out people can't even like i may not be a great driver but i at least know the rules there's so many people that can't even like deal with a roundabout or a rotary roundabouts are confusing though they are bad defense even i almost got into an accident. You're both wrong. You're both wrong.
Starting point is 01:23:07 They're way better than a four-way stop or a light. It depends what city you're in. In Boston, there's roundabouts. They're actually in Cape Cod, and those are easy to navigate. But whenever I'm in Wisconsin and I get on one, I always get turned around. Yeah, and my GPS kind of freaks out on them, too. Well, the GPS says, take the third exit. And you're like, but I don't even know how many exits there are on this damn thing.
Starting point is 01:23:29 Where do I start counting? Do I start counting right now? Or do I start counting at the first one I hit? I want to know who invented the roundabout. I've ended up just going around for a while before. My Tesla navigates the roundabouts without a problem at all. It's incredible. Well, I just drive a normal car, so I have to figure it out with my own brain.
Starting point is 01:23:50 You should be able to figure it out. You can do things like write pieces for the Postmillennial. You should be able to do this. Writing is easy. Roundabouts are annoying. No, they're not. You're wrong. Who's the Pierre Le Fond French guy?
Starting point is 01:24:06 1790s. Why are you looking at the roundabout, Serge? History of the roundabout? The nice thing about the roundabout is you don't have to exit. You can just stay on the roundabout. I've done that. So you can't really miss your exit. You just don't want to take one too soon.
Starting point is 01:24:20 So take your time. Get familiar with the roundabout. Read the signs. Next time you're there, you'll have to think read the signs let everyone else just yield and merge in all right so we're gonna go to this last uh this last little bit here to uh kind of wrap it up uh ross alerts uh is is saying that uh breaking google maps has announced it will update its platform to reflect changes introduced by president trump renaming the gulf of mexico're the president of the United States and the world complies. This is I personally I think this goes this speaks to, you know, what we were talking about earlier, how like if you just say no we're gonna do this you can really shift the overton window about what is and is not possible because to be honest with you when i heard the
Starting point is 01:25:12 gulf of gulf of america i laughed and i was like that would be hilarious yeah so did hillary clinton but at the same time like like nobody's laughing anymore because there you go. Google Maps is going to do it. And to be honest with you, when you hear a lot of the. You're like, oh, OK, maybe it does make sense. You know, Greenland is in North America, not in Europe. And Greenland, the ice sheets are melting. And the U.S. is really going to you know, you don't want China and Russia controlling those waterways. Never mind Denmark. Yeah, I mean, well, Denmark doesn't have the military to do it. It's the United States that has to do it.
Starting point is 01:26:02 In fact, in World War ii the united states was like denmark this is yours but actually it's ours for now because we don't want the nazis taking it you know that was a real a real risk you know so i mean the idea that you know you can't do things like especially something simple like changing denali back to mount mckinley and and changing the name of the gulf Mexico to the Gulf of America. I love Gulf of America. I love it. Sounds better.
Starting point is 01:26:28 I want some Gulf of America merch. The only downside is it's four syllables instead of three. Mexico, it's easier to say it. That's not enough. I get the meaning, I guess. Every time Trump does something, I'm like, why hasn't anyone done that before? It was kind of easy and simple. It's because he just doesn't care who he offends.
Starting point is 01:26:47 And I think we needed a leader like that. I don't really care, Margaret. Yeah. I think he's running in 2028, and I think that solidifies it. That would be great. Where's my I don't really care, Margaret shirt? I would enthusiastically vote for J.D. Vance if he ran in 20d vance if he ran in 2020 he's a very smart guy but i mean that the the again the idea that you know the world does bend to the will of the
Starting point is 01:27:15 leader that says i'm gonna do this particularly when it's literally it's small stuff like so in the united states we call it the gulf of America. Another, like Mexico might continue to call it the Gulf of Mexico, like as long as Mexico gets to remain a sovereign nation. But who knows how long that's going to be, you know? And it doesn't matter if other countries call it other things. The United States can say, hey, this is what we call it here. I think we're the biggest superpower in the world, economically and militarily, and I think we should act like it. And I'm actually proud to be American. I feel like there's actually pride in something to be proud of now, because we actually act like
Starting point is 01:27:57 the superpower we are. And I'm just kind of disappointed that it took us this long to act this way. I like this, because it it's not a it's taking it away from the nationalistic aspect of the gulf that it belongs to a country and it's re-establishing it as a continental gulf it's the north south american gulf you can think that but i think that the most of america thinks you know if if if they if president trump had said we're going to call it the gulf of the united states i I think Americans would have been like, yeah. Yeah. Mexico's official name is the United States of Mexico.
Starting point is 01:28:30 That's the official name of their country. Is it really? Yeah, it's the U.S. of M. I'm glad that they don't tell people that because that's encroaching on our. Yeah, our IP, our national IP. So I'm open to this. I'm going to frame it as we've done it for the continent. That way people will lay off. If we keep saying it's our golf now,
Starting point is 01:28:45 it belongs to the United States of America. Like, we're all Americans here. The Mexicans are Americans. The South Americans are all Americans. You know, South America. They act like it. They keep coming into our country like they own it. I disagree with you.
Starting point is 01:28:59 And the point that Josh makes is exactly why I disagree. Which point? That we're not all Americans because South America and North America. And the reason I disagree with that is because when people think of America, the United States like that, when they think that, oh, it's just to America's it's everybody in America is allowed to go to America, then you get a rationalization that says, oh, we can just travel to the United States and get in for you know, get in for no reason, because we just want to be there because it's we're all the same. Yeah, that's like the Germans are European, but you don't have a right to go illegally immigrate to Germany from France, like you need to go through the proper channels. It was a little egotistical of us in the United States or somebody to call
Starting point is 01:29:46 ourselves. We are the United States of America. And those other people in North America can call themselves something. We started calling the ones of America. We started calling ourselves the United States of America. Like before there was any other country, like Mexico wasn't a country at the time. And,
Starting point is 01:30:01 and Canada wasn't a country at the time either. They were all, you know, there were, there were colonies there was still back when mexico was a colony of spain and canada was a colony of uh britain there was an offer to mexico to canada to join the united states so the united states of america we united against the british because we were the colonies of america and then we were like yo we're the united states of america that because we were the colonies of America.
Starting point is 01:30:25 And then we were like, yo, we're the United States of America. So we were the United States before anyone else. That's a good point. Yeah, not only that, if anybody recognized somewhere else as America, we'd know about it, but they don't. Like we're... What, like in Chile? Well, like if you say America anywhere in the world,
Starting point is 01:30:46 what do people think you're talking about? United States of America? Well, there you go. So that's what we are. But it's still, it's not accurate. It doesn't matter. Like Chileans are Americans too. You know, might makes right sometimes. Just be literal with it.
Starting point is 01:30:55 Like French people are Europeans. It's not an insult. But there's no place where they think of themselves as Europeans. They think of themselves as europeans they think of themselves as french or german or polish or whatever they're all like there's like the united states is the only place where we call ourselves americans like it's not like people in europe think call themselves european they call themselves whatever their respective country is they're italians or french and they're allowed to do that but if we're proud to be an American, we're just a nationalistic Nazi.
Starting point is 01:31:29 I mean, I don't think, well, I know you're being facetious. I don't think that being a nationalist means you're a Nazi at all. I think that's a leftist meme. I just think it's interesting that everyone else should be proud of where they live and of their country. But if we are proud of it, the left seems to have a problem with it. The left has a problem all the time. So, hey, you guys want to go to Super Chats? Every day, dude.
Starting point is 01:31:57 Yep. Every day. We're going to go to Super Chats. So smash the like button. Share the show with your friends. Go to TimCast.com, join up, and you'll be able to join us for the after show. But right now, we're going to go to some super chats, and we're going to start with the Emperor's Champion says it's all fun and games for the cartels until the A-10 shows up and goes, and it's a big long one. So that's why I explain what the A-10 is.
Starting point is 01:32:27 Exactly. A-10 is the, is a flying tank. It's a, it's an airplane built around a gun. And the Burt is the, the sound of the gun makes because it's a, I think it's like something like 4,000 rounds. This is the Thunderbolt two. The A-10, the Fairchild Republic, A-10 Thunderbolt two. It is a single seat, twin turbo fanchild Republic A-10 Thunderbolt II.
Starting point is 01:32:50 It is a single-seat, twin-turbofan, straight-wing, subsonic attack aircraft. I feel like the pilot's going to feel the kickback on that one. The main gun slows the plane down. Wow. No joke. That is insane. Oh, this is the Warthog, okay. Yeah, the Warthog. When they let go of a burst from the main gun, it actually slows the forward momentum of the plane down.
Starting point is 01:33:09 Whoa. You said that's an A-10, Phil? A-10 Thunderbolt II, the Warthog. It's a tank killer. Awesome. Shooting depleted uranium rounds. I think it's a 30 or 40 millimeter cannon. We should have been using this five years ago.
Starting point is 01:33:23 30 millimeter GAU,au gau eight avenger road it was it was literally like it was built around the gun uh they built the gun and then they're like let's make this gun fly that's crazy so they were like all right 1977s when they built this thing yeah and that's the i mean ground troops love that thing because it's such a an amazing uh air support uh fighter or uh attack plane how do you have so much military knowledge were you in the military watch a lot of stuff man your knowledge is just watch a lot of stuff on it's just cool stuff man history channel or history no youtube too okay you know so it's an air support attack do they is it air to air do they use it not really
Starting point is 01:34:01 i mean i i believe that it carries it can carry hellfires, so it ostensibly could. Yeah. But it doesn't, like, it wouldn't take on, like, jet fighters. It's a support. Because they're, like, they don't have the maneuverability and the speed that, you know, like, actual, like, fighter jets have. So, like, if it had, like, hellfires on it, it would probably use them to take out helicopters. But I don't think that it could actually take out a fighter jet, like an actual jet designed for air to air combat, like an interceptor or something like that. So just because I'm free, says H.R. 38 of the 119th Congress is in committee.
Starting point is 01:34:43 It's for a national constitutional carry. Call your senators and representatives, folks. Let's legally carry everywhere. The Constitution says that you have the right to keep and bear arms and that right shall not be infringed. The Constitution has the supremacy clause saying that everything that's in the constitution takes supremacy over all of any state laws. And so that means that the second amendment takes precedent over any state prohibitions. The prohibitions are infringements. So call your representative and tell them to support H.R. 38 national constitutional carry because it's your right and the states have no right to
Starting point is 01:35:26 infringe upon your right to carry a weapon to defend yourself there you go um joe fiotta says phil it's my son roman's 10th birthday this weekend and he asked to listen to no tomorrow every morning on the way to school can you you wish him a happy birthday, please? Roman, happy birthday! You have absolutely impeccable taste in heavy metal. I am so happy to hear that you enjoy all that remains of music. I really appreciate you, man.
Starting point is 01:35:57 So, let's see what we got here. Jason Dixon says, Ian, saw you on the It's Based Gaming Jamcast the other day. P.S. No?
Starting point is 01:36:10 What? P.S. don't say it? Andrew is an a-hole. Oh, Andrew Wilson. Well, I mean, maybe. I don't know. I love the guy. Yeah, we had a good time
Starting point is 01:36:19 doing It's Based Game Jam every few months. We'll do a session where a bunch of developers will get together, build video games. You get like, we had 40 entries this time this month and, they go through a series of,
Starting point is 01:36:31 of judges and people judging the games. And then they come to the finals where Andrew and I were both judges. And we, uh, we judged the top five finalists. It was a lot of fun. It's on it's based scam. Uh,
Starting point is 01:36:42 it's based jam gaming. If you want to check it out, highly recommend it. It's super fun to be a part of it and we'll be doing it again too so keep your eyes on it and i tweeted it out if you want to link directly to the show it's on my twitter isaiah s says asking for prayers for my daughter again we've been in the icu for 273 days she was extubate extubated for the first time two months ago and was reintubated today. It's been a long, scary day. More in the Discord. Religion general.
Starting point is 01:37:11 So, yeah, if you are of the praying type, keep Isaiah S.'s daughter in your thoughts and prayers. We're rooting for you. Yeah, there's been a lot of—I've had a lung infection for about two weeks. I don't know about you guys, if you've been feeling under the weather at all. I see a lot of people tweeting about it. When I was flying here, I was just talking outside the studio. Everybody was wearing masks and
Starting point is 01:37:33 everybody was coughing at the airport. And my brother was just sick, as was my nephew. So I think something's going around. I wonder if it's stress. I wonder if people are feeling stress and their immune systems are... They shouldn't. Donald Trump's president. I'm really allergic are feeling stress and their immune systems are... They shouldn't. Donald Trump's president. I'm really allergic to my cat.
Starting point is 01:37:48 And I keep forgetting to take allergy pills. And then I'll be sneezing and I'll have trouble breathing. And I'll be like, oh, right. I couldn't get enough water. You can't get rid of your kid's cat. Oh, it's your kid's cat. Yeah. But, of course, she sleeps in my room.
Starting point is 01:38:01 You can't get rid of any cat. That's my dumb cat. JRG Project says, ICE should start playing the classic Pokemon theme at their HQ. Gotta catch them all. A wild cartel member appeared. CBP used
Starting point is 01:38:17 raids. It's super effective. Or bring back the Iraqi regime card deck back in the aughts. This canon should be fun. You are a malicious, malicious young man. I forgot about the Iraqi cards. I approve. My dad had Osama bin Laden toilet paper that we used after 9-11.
Starting point is 01:38:37 I was a kid. I was like, I don't know, 13 years old, and I remember using it. Well, he's dead, so i was a kid i thought you meant my dad because my dad died my dad died i thought you're talking about my dad i was like i mean he wasn't that bogus for doing that it was osama bin laden funny i didn't know your father had passed away he did but it's fine rest in peace henry i love you henry uh good name yeah yeah he's a junior and they just named a gun range after him in Danville, Illinois. So I'm from Champaign-Urbana.
Starting point is 01:39:10 And they just named the gun range Henry John Sider Jr. Gun range, it's like 100 to 200-yard rifle range. So they just named it after my father. I didn't realize that they had gun ranges in Illinois. I thought guns were all elite. So they had St. Joe, Illinois, which is just one town over, and then Danville is where my dad liked to go in the latter part of his life. So he'd go there like every other day pretty much.
Starting point is 01:39:33 Nice. Yep. Let's see. Wyatt Caldenberg says, Phil, I lived southeast of Tijuana during the cartel wars. There is little difference between the cartels and Mexican government. If Trump declares the cartels terrorists, doesn't that mean the Mexican government is too? Well, I don't know if it means that the Mexican government is too,
Starting point is 01:39:56 but the United States does have many levers of power at its disposal, and it is quite influential and i do think that the united states could persuade the mexican government to side with the united states as opposed to siding with the cartels if it really really wanted to so whether whether the government currently is, I do think that the United States could eventually over time clean up Mexico significantly. It might take more, I guess, U.S. involvement in Mexico's politics than the average American is thinking that we should. But I do think that it's possible. So, let's see. Glory Farm Knox
Starting point is 01:40:50 says, I posted in the Discord and wanted to post here too. Our farm is having a seed kit giveaway. Head over to our YouTube and fill out the form and select the kits you're interested in. Thanks, y'all, for the support.
Starting point is 01:41:07 So that's Glory Farm. What is it? Glory Farm. Glory Farm Knox. So, yeah, if you're interested in getting a kit, seed kit for growing, I assume it's growing vegetables. I don't know if they're heirloom vegetables or if they're i assume that it's probably heirloom vegetables it's not the
Starting point is 01:41:29 monsanto ones that uh don't you know don't reproduce those are that's just evil it is kind of evil i agree um but you can still find heirloom stuff out there it's it's you know i i mean if you go and buy your regular seeds from you know whatever the the whatever nursery you you know there's around you might end up with monsanto zombie seeds but if you if you do a little digging on the internet i'm sure that you can find some seeds that are not monsanto eyes that's so nuts that a company was so influential they genetically modified seeds to grow vegetables that don't have seeds so that they have the control of the supply. That is devil.
Starting point is 01:42:09 It's so cruel. And then people like farmers would take the free seeds and then grow them and it would not be sustaining. They couldn't grow anymore. It's so cruel. My grandpa actually worked for them and he was part of a class action lawsuit against them for a long time. Really? What happened? It was something that he was poisoned. Was this Henry Sr.?
Starting point is 01:42:29 Yes, Sr., exactly. He's still alive, turned 95 last Saturday. And he was exposed to some toxicity from working through Monsanto. So while I was a young kid, we'd always get letters from him talking about this class action lawsuit that was happening against them. All right. Let's see. Hal Gailey says capitalism only causes trouble when the state discounts rights to support corporate profiteering. True capitalism respects rights as it's built on them. Well, I do think that for the most part, that's generally right.
Starting point is 01:43:09 There are times where I think that there might know, property rights really do cover a lot of things, especially when you don't have the ability to influence legislators to infringe on other people's property rights in your favor. Libby made a good point earlier about the script when the companies were completely out of control. I mean, you could say out of control or in control, maybe is the way to look at it, like at the end of the 1800s. And they would pay their employees in their own currency that they would create. So like think crypto these days. And you could only spend that currency
Starting point is 01:43:53 at the company's store. They were like, it was like slave labor they had basically through capitalism. So I do agree that at the time that was a problem, but I don't think that that kind of problem is possible nowadays. Again, you mentioned cryptocurrency. The ability to purchase other forms of currency and to move around and leave and go to a different place and stuff,
Starting point is 01:44:20 that's something that they didn't have back you know, back in the late 1800s. And so I guess the conditions in the late 1800s, I think were unique. Because if a company offered you crypto, their company crypto, you could trade it on the blockchain. Hopefully, ideally. But I do think incentives run in both directions. And not only do corporations and owners need to be incentivized, but so do workers. And if their wages aren't keeping up with corporate profits, and corporate profits are up by a multiple of 1000, and worker
Starting point is 01:44:51 wages have stayed stagnant, they're not going to be incentivized to want to work or join the labor force. And I think we're kind of seeing that. So I do think it's important to not only incentivize business owners, but incentivize the workers through higher wages or wages that at least keep up with inflation and maybe kind of track profits of a company, some kind of profit sharing thing that is still capitalistic, but the workers are incentivized. I think we could kind of work something out. And some companies have started sharing profits with the workers, and it seems to be working. And again, it's funny is the only reason that health insurance benefits became part of a, an employment package is because, um, FDR froze
Starting point is 01:45:32 wages and said you couldn't have any raises. So companies were trying to figure out how to incentivize workers. And so they were like, we'll give you health insurance benefits. And now it's, that's how it got stuck to employment so all all the progressives complaining about how it's stuck to employment it's like but it was you guys you stuck it to employment literally fdr's fault that you can't afford to get you know your your teeth cleaned or to get your bones set or whatever it's literally fdr's fault yes it's because of the democrats so you're wild everything's the democrats fault it generally is yeah uh ben hickson says hey philcast have you read the true believer by eric hoffer apparently revolutions
Starting point is 01:46:11 happen when the when things are getting better last episode was great i have not read that um but i am interested now so tweet that at me and I'll take a look. Dante's Inferno says, I am a legal Mexican citizen. That's literally how he spelled it in the U.S. And I hate that because of those who refuse to respect the law of the U.S. My chances of naturalization may eventually be jeopardized. And that's a legitimate gripe. Like the people that are here trying to that have come to the United States legally that are trying to do the things the right way. The fact that they're getting pushed back and they have to weigh and the other people jump the line and people that come here the right way are getting, you know, end up with the, you know, with the problems and having to deal with that.
Starting point is 01:47:02 That is absolutely terrible. And it's something that I wish that we could fix immediately. Well, they've even done polls and the majority of legal Mexican immigrants and Mexican Americans want us to deport the migrants. The majority of them voted for Trump for that exact reason. And of course, the Democrats want to discount them and would never put them on TV or in a news article. But the majority of legal Mexican-Americans want us to deport illegal migrants. So that kind of speaks volumes. Yeah, I do think that, you know, it would be beneficial to America if you got the people that want to be here and that would go about it the right way.
Starting point is 01:47:41 If you got them into the u.s first and and hopefully the deportations continue let's see uh dr phil we need you in chicago stay there a couple weeks dr phil and tom home kicking indoors uh kenneth hart says my wife immigrated from philippines last year she heard filipinos were making a hasty retreat back home when asked how she fell about countrymen overstays she shrugged commenting back of the line is over there people good for her love it good for her um you know the the more the more you have people coming here legally uh and and pushing the the illegals out the better I like it. Let's see.
Starting point is 01:48:29 Let's see here. Super chats. Invader J says, Freedom Tunes needs to make a tune of J.D. prank calling Margaret with the name Willard McBain. It's me again, Margaret. I think that would be great. Seamus, if you're watching, that would be an absolutely wonderful episode. And you could, you know, toss Margaret into the crystals at the end, too. Are you there, JD?
Starting point is 01:48:54 It's me, Margaret. Into the crystal. Nanya B says, haven't watched mainstream sports really since 2020. Instead, watch the dw and timcast mostly well we appreciate that thank you hopefully you're a member at timcast.com hopefully you smashed the like button share the show with your friends as well uh let's see here jason hutchinson says production creates wealth production of things to buy that people want to buy because it makes life more efficient, makes the dollar more valuable. Yeah, things like that.
Starting point is 01:49:31 It's the supply side, you know, supply side economics argument. The idea that the pie is not a finite pie. The pie can be grown, that it's not a zero-sum game, that it's better to create things. And in that creation, sometimes you'll destroy other industries, but that's better overall for everybody. And a lot of people complain that, well, capitalism can't fix these great inequalities and wealth. Well, neither can socialism. So I want to see where socialism has a panacea for poverty and inequalities and wealth. So just because capitalism can't fix it perfectly, you need to show me a system that can do it
Starting point is 01:50:11 better. Criticisms of capitalism are always based, they're always comparing capitalism to a perfect society that has never existed and that actually can't exist because we are limited humans in the real world like the the idea that oh well capitalism did this and that especially one of the memes that you see a lot is uh you know all the the deaths under capitalism which was in response to the deaths under socialism because socialism have socialists have been killed by their own governments by famines created by the actions of their own governments, the top-down decrees of their own governments. And so in response, communists say things like, oh, a bajillion, gorillion people have been killed because there's not clean water. And a gorillion people have been killed by curable diseases and blah, blah, blah. And it ends up being what they're saying is, well, capitalism hasn't solved all of the problems of the human condition.
Starting point is 01:51:10 So, you know, there there is starvation that still happens, even though capitalism has just about solved abject poverty. Right. I think that there's fossil fuels. Fossil fuels helped with that. Well, yeah, sure. Absolutely. But the idea that we're almost to the point where nobody lives by what the UN considers abject poverty anymore. Everyone on Earth, I think it's like less than 10 percent of the Earth's population is actually that poor nowadays. And it's all because of markets it's because of markets and because of trade and you know because of of being able to uh you know fertilize crops with petroleum fertilizers petroleum-based fertilizers and stuff petrochemicals and stuff so even though you know capitalism isn't perfect and doesn't solve the fact that human existence means you're going to suffer but uh you know it doesn't it's like the the the communists don't have the
Starting point is 01:52:16 solution either i wanted to add a little nuance to the super chatter who said production i believe what he said was production increasing production production increases wealth. It was a direct correlation, but you need to run an opportunity cost of production. So if you build a factory that builds paperclips or whatever, if the cost and destruction of your surroundings in order to create that factory outweighs the value of the factory itself, then the production actually reduced wealth. So like, at what cost always ask ask yourself that when you're dealing with how you're producing things at what cost it's called opportunity cost and microeconomics that's a good point man i like that dead eye says phil roundabouts are un-american still love you though no they are not un-american i have been uh i have been a roundabout fan as long as i've
Starting point is 01:53:03 been driving cars and that's longer than i want to admit because I am an old man. What's your favorite thing about the roundabout? The fact that there's no stop sign. There's a yield. There's a yield everywhere. Yield means that you can go ahead and ease your way in. You don't have to stop and sit there and wait. People get confused by that yield sign in the roundabout, though.
Starting point is 01:53:22 People get confused by a lot of things. People get confused by push doors or pull doors. Or who a man is and who a woman is. You never know. They get confused about what a penis is for. Yeah, you never know. But no, I will stand by this. Roundabouts are a net good for society.
Starting point is 01:53:41 And they are not a... Even if they're not from America, they're still a great even if they are if they're not from america they're still a great idea they're better than four-way stops um k spencer jones with more of the roundabout blasphemy roundabouts or communism no they're not no they're not everybody working together for common good take over the means of production. It is communism. Ian Kenny says roundabouts only suck for people who can't drive. Yes, my brother. You sounded like Hulk Hogan there. Let me tell you, brother.
Starting point is 01:54:14 I like them. Every once in a while you come up on a roundabout that's hard to see. Have you ever experienced that? Like at night, it's dark. It's not lit very well. And it's like there's no sign. There's no stop sign. So watch out.
Starting point is 01:54:23 I was recently going around a roundabout and i saw it was it's been snowing a lot right and it was just tire tracks directly across the roundabout and i was like oh someone someone missed there kind of guy yeah just directly across so you like the roundabout but you'd rather just drive through it uh well i wouldn't want i mean it depends on what i'm driving if i'm driving the jeep i'll just drive through it it's fine i've got plenty of clearance if i'm driving the tesla it's low to the ground i wouldn't just drive through it uh well i wouldn't want i mean it depends on what i'm driving if i'm driving the jeep i'll just drive through it it's fine i've got plenty of clearance if i'm driving the tesla it's low to the ground i wouldn't try to drive through it so but the jeep you know i don't know what anybody was driving no so i didn't see him just saw the tracks jt says roundabouts are superior wow a lot of roundabouts isn't getting a lot around you're influencing the super chat choices
Starting point is 01:55:01 tonight i look man surge is actually selecting them for me. People bullish on roundabouts. We're doing a lot of Super Chats tonight. Roundabouts are glorious, I'm just going to say. The full stop, if you don't come to a complete stop, the cops can pull you over. Keep that in mind. I mean, a total and complete stop. At stop sign.
Starting point is 01:55:22 A rolling stop can get you. Exactly, yeah. So you don't have to worry about that. And like you got to stop the car. In Chicago, it's okay though. In Chicago, it's always a rolling stop. In Chicago, it's dangerous to actually stop, right? Half of them don't have driver's license because they snuck in anyways. RD says Biden's last moves in office made it illegal to drill for oil in the Gulf of America.
Starting point is 01:55:46 In the Gulf of Mexico. It's not drill for oil in the Gulf of America, in the Gulf of Mexico. It's not illegal to drill in the Gulf of America. And I heard someone make this statement. It is possible that the change of name was to get around Biden's executive order. Oh, my God. You don't think it designated a specific geographic area and that's what it's tied to? I mean, look i i didn't read the executive order that biden put out but if they said the gulf of mexico then technically it doesn't it doesn't exist anymore it's the gulf of america so i mean look i i mean maybe
Starting point is 01:56:19 i would love that for it to be that much of a pedantic issue like just oh well we just you thought that you thought that you were going to do this we're just going to go ahead and change the name if i understand correctly and again this is only you know wavetops understanding i didn't read into it or anything but if i understand correctly the the executive order that biden made regarding drilling in the Gulf of Mexico was comprehensive and it would cause a lot of legal problems for the Trump and they just changed the name to get around it. That is probably I mean, I want to believe it would make it make sense because I was like, why is that like Trump's top priority renaming the Gulf of Mexico? But now it kind of makes sense. Also, if they could develop a tool other than a drill to get in there and dig out the oil space laser. Yeah, like lasers then like
Starting point is 01:57:25 we're not actually drilling we're just cutting it open oh yeah yeah so i'm true i'm looking at this and it does have a map the biden executive order oh that's unfortunate attached to it so it says thinking ahead yeah it says the areas designated by the bureau of ocean energy management as the north atlantic mid-atlantic the areaser Continental Shelf designated by Section 104A of the Gulf of Mexico Energy Security Act. The boundaries of the withdrawn areas are more specifically delineated in the attached map. Dude, I remember that Deepwater Horizon spill, I guess you would call it, where like the drill broke. And then for like months and months, maybe even years, it was just pouring. I don't think it was years.
Starting point is 01:58:05 It was a while. There was a camera down there. They couldn't figure out how to close it. Yeah. Yeah. That was crazy. Like if I understand. Shrimping became a problem.
Starting point is 01:58:15 Yeah. For like on a short, on a short term. But if I understand correctly, there were no long term negative results. Like it was a problem while the oil was, you know, dumping out of there. But once they capped it, like, there are microbes that actually eat the petroleum. That's interesting. And if I understand correctly, like, the Gulf is not like some dead zone that is no longer, you know, life doesn't exist anymore, if I understand correctly.
Starting point is 01:58:43 I'd have to take a look to make sure. They figured out how to put iron oxide dust into oil spills, and then you use a magnet to pull the oil out. All the oil, it bonds with the iron, and then it'll come up on your magnet. Wow, that's super. Yeah, there's videos of it in action. Super arcane knowledge. You guys impress me with the esoteric knowledge you come up with. The internet's a portal.
Starting point is 01:59:04 It's like, wow, I didn't know you could do that with that stuff. It's a palantir. I didn't know there was bacteria that eats oil. Yeah, that's crazy. I bet that's not true of lithium batteries. There's probably not bacteria that eats lithium batteries. Things evolve. The last thing you want to do is put lithium in contact with salt water.
Starting point is 01:59:21 Well, for sure, but stuff gets dumped. There's also fungus that eats petroleum or plastic, rather. What about that eats the, what do you call them? The wind turbines. Once those fall apart, you can't recycle them. No, those things are such a terrible idea. Terrible idea. Dustin Campbell says, Ian, if you did make it snow in the Gulf, I thank you, sir.
Starting point is 01:59:41 And that's going to wrap it up for us. Smash the like button. Share the show with your friends. Go to TimCast.com and join up. And Josh, do you have any last words or where can people find you? Man, well, thanks for having me. I had a blast. They can find me on Instagram at Josh Cider Official and on Twitter at Josh Cider.
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