Timcast IRL - Shots Fired At Timcast Studio, Man Arrested For Stalking Benny, Loomer, Matt Walsh w/ Gary the Numbers Guy

Episode Date: December 9, 2025

Tim, Phil, Ian, Elaad, & Shane are joined by Gary the Numbers Guy to discuss shots fired at the Timcast studio, a man arrested for stalking and threatening Benny Johnson & Matt Walsh, how the Charlie Kirk assassination fractured MAGA, and a numerology expert giving wild predictions for 2026.   Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) Elaad @ElaadEliahu (X) Ian @IanCrossland (everywhere) Shane @ShaneCashman (X) |  @TalesfromtheInvertedWorld  (YT) Producer: Serge @SergeDotCom (everywhere) Guest: Gary The Numbers Guy  @gg33academy  (YT)

Friday was a heck of a show. Oh boy. Did I get in trouble? From the things that Milo was saying about Candace and his, I'm sorry, not just Candace, but Charlie Kirk as well. And Benny Johnson? Geez. Wow. And so we left the show that night thinking everything was, I don't know if normal is the right word, because it's hard to describe anything in the past year or a couple of years or even decade as normal, I guess.

But, you know, here we are. And the simple version of the story, which we'll get into it in a little bit more detail, obviously later on. But a vehicle was slowly approaching the property when it got a... I got to keep some of the details vague just for security reasons, but... One shot was fired. It then picks up speed. And then once it lines up at the studio, two more shots are fired. We don't know what it is, right?

It's based on the threats that we had already received, threats to shoot up the studio and to kill us, we're just operating this under the presumption. It's targeted. But all we really know is be it an attempted intimidation or actually just a weak, you know, I guess what do we call it, Antifa, terrible aim attempts to kill us. We don't know who did it or, you know, or why. But the presumption is, again, we had received threats months ago, some of the more credible threats to come and shoot up the studio. One thing that I've never talked about, but as of today I have, is we routinely get people pulling up to the property in the middle of the night and just sitting there, just literally idling their cars in front of our property. We have a security perimeter.

We have a six-foot-tall gate, and we've got armed guards, and they'll flicker lights at them, and the people will speed off. Our old property still gets harassed. People still show up. I've told the story a year ago, a man in address showed up and physically attacked one of the residents. And then even recently, a man showed up taking pictures and filming on the property, even though we aren't there. It's a private residence. So things are getting a bit serious. And we got the crew here. We talked about it.

We've got footage of what happened. And we also have this other story that, interestingly, and I don't know if interesting is the right word, but Benny Johnson posted that a man had been arrested for stalking him, Laura Lumer, Matt Walsh, Katzerd, threatening to kill Matt Walsh and his family. And, oh boy, as we enter a political year, things are just giving. crazy. They're getting absolutely crazy. Charlie Kirk is dead. And this stuff is just getting worse. And I believe what the most terrifying thing about the political environment that we are in is that Turning Point USA, Charlie Kirk's organization lost its founder, its leader, its greatest

advocate. And somehow, a section of our political, you know, population has turned turning point into the perpetrators of the crime they were victims of. It's psychotic. And here we are. That's how crazy things are getting. So of course, we're going to talk about that and a lot more. I know this is a rather serious opening and they're very serious implications as to how we continue doing this show. We talked about this back in October. We talked about this after Charlie was murdered and we started receiving serious threats. And people started posting all across social media saying kill Tim Poole and things of that nature. And, you know, we had talked about how if we decide to make a move, isolate, shut down,

whatever it is, it will feel premature. I feel like now after three shots are fired at our studio, it doesn't feel premature anymore, but I don't know exactly how or what to do. And there's a lot to talk about. So we'll go over this. There's a lot of, I guess, just crazy shenanigans that are happening as, you know, with the following last Friday's episode. So we'll talk about that.

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we have Gary the Numbers guy. Are we doing today, brother? Not well. I see. Well, I mean, Milo just left, so it makes sense. You know, Milo stresses me out, but I do enjoy his company. You sure those shots weren't fired at Milo? Oh, Milo wasn't here.

Okay. Yeah, he wasn't here. We had left for the night. We had wrapped the show up, Bill. Who are you? What do you do? I do numerology and astrology basically before I came along Most people who did this line of work with your women or homosexual men And I kind of change that a little bit when it comes down only a little bit so you are somewhat gay

No, no no I'm definitely been married for 21 years got kids We don't do that my little stuff here but when it comes down to what you what you have to understand is I believe this is a virtual reality we live in and I believe numerology and astrology cheat codes and as this show goes on I I would try to express my thoughts to your audience. It is fun stuff, you know, to be completely honest. It is fun stuff. So it should be fun. Next for you now.

Shane is hanging out. What's up? Shane, the host of Inverter World Live. I just wanted to share this really quick. For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and love and a sound mind. That's from 2 Timothy, 17. A lot. Wow, Shane, that was powerful.

Thanks for saying that. Good evening, everybody. I am Alad Eliahu, the White House correspondent here at Timcast. I'm not going to fill yet because we have Ian in the studio with us as well. What up? Hi, everybody. And Shane, nice one. Bravery is the name of the game, my man. That's it.

Gary, great stuff, dude. And I think you're probably right about astrology. You know, if radiation is refracting through our bodies and through planets and stuff, it could easily be imprinting on us and creating, you know, fractals of ways of behavior. That's right, Milo. I said fractals. Philibonti's in the house. I love you, Ian.

Hello, everybody. My name is Philobonte. I'm the lead singer, the heavy metal band, All That Remains of an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary. Let's get into it. Well, we're just going to start with the, you know, what happened over the weekend. And I talked about a bit this morning. I'm interested to hear what the crew thinks.

But, you know, back in October, I was in Phoenix. I went to Turning Point to do the show with the Turning Point crew and the Charlie Kirk show crew. We had received a threat that I don't know if we described at the time in detail because we often refrain from exposing some of the finer details because it will make your security worse. It will increase the threat and the risk. And the threat was to come and shoot up the place. We were in contact with the FBI. Look, like Cash and Dan have been on the show. I know these guys, right?

And we got in touch directly with some great people at the FBI who said that they're working on this and they were in touch with our crew. And they believed that it was credible because it fit a pattern of other shootings based on the information that was conveyed in it. And so I believe they're currently tracking that down. I believe it's an I don't know what the deal is going on. it, but I think it's an open case, maybe. And it's not the only one we've received. We've received a lot of veiled threats and general death threats. And then Saturday between midnight and 1 a.m., a vehicle slowly approaching the property, opens fire. Then it drives past our driveway to where our studio is. Two more shots are fired. And, you know, the first thing everybody did was just, you know,

try to rationalize. So the first thing that happens, our security guards report shots fired. And I mean, it's a crazy thing to hear. And we were out. You know, we had left the show. We were going to hang out, right? We go do our stuff. We get drinks or play poker or something like that. And so I had back and I'm like, what's going on? What happened? And then like some car was lurking around and fired a shot or something like that. So, you know, we have increased security. We don't exactly know what's happening at this time, but we've got armed guards, right? So in the morning, we reviewed security footage and it's three clear gunshots. We don't know why, right? We could ignore everything and just say, you know what? Sometimes out in the country, people Yosemite

Sam, you know what I mean? They take their guns and they go, wow, wow, wow. But that's never happened before and we've been here for four years. And considering the threats, considering the political climate we're in, we can look at it a bunch of different ways. I think it was targeted, I think, based on the threats that we had received, I think, and escalated quite a bit in recent history in the past couple of weeks, that it was, my thoughts are intimidation. This is, it's like that old story where they said, you know, a guy hears a gunshot in his neighborhood and he runs out in his backyard and he sees an old man firing gun into the ground. And he's like, what, what are you doing? And he's like keeping the property taxes down. So the idea is just the shot itself can disrupt an area.

It can cause serious problems with, it can cause problems with our guests. So what would this be? If I'm going to do the math, then it's just like a random country shooting for no reason right in front of our studio makes no sense. intimidation makes the most sense it's not i wouldn't call it um impossible but i'm trying to be i'll try to be vague on security but it's it's difficult to to come here with weapons because we are we have a security perimeter we have armed guards so intimidation seems to make the most sense and i think that's what the what the attempt was uh yeah and so you know here we are this is the climate we are in. There's no amount of security that can protect you from drive-by shootings. There's no amount of security. So we can have people here and, you know, they can report our bullet-ridden corpses

should something truly dark happen. But it's not like they're going to stop someone from pulling off more serious attack. So we have to have a discussion, and we've had a discussion earlier today with the company about how we move forward and, you know, I'd argue that it looks bleak, but I don't think it's reflective of what we do here. I think it's reflective of the greater political climate as to why it looks bleak. I'll throw it to the crew, just curious what you guys think about everything that's going on and based on. I'm just curious, do any liberals have these problems? No. Any Democrats have these problems? No, no. Only the conservatives have problems. We've got people killed. We got people targeted. I mean, well, to be fair,

Josh Shapiro's house was firebombed. I will also say Nancy Pelosi's home was raided by a guy with a hammer. I thought that was a lover of somebody. Still violence. I don't know if it was a lover's quarrel, but there is also violence. It's in California. There is violence to, I'm sure AOC gets a ton of threats. Yeah, but I mean, you're not to your point.

I mean, you're right. But at the end of the day, like the actual attacks, I mean, whether it be the attempts on Donald Trump's life, you know, what happens? to Charlie Kirk, Steve Scalise, a few years back, the shooting at the congressional baseball game. That was intended to target, you know, Republicans. Generally, the attacks that lately have actually resulted in, in maimings and loss of life,

they've all been attacks against Republicans, against conservatives, and whether or not you think it was actually politically motivated target and was targeted, or if it was just people that knew that they don't like Tim Poole, or the stuff that we do here, so they went to try to send a message. That doesn't matter, really, because at the end of the day, you know, the next one might actually be someone that's trying to get a person, you know, whether or not they're targeting Tim or just anyone here.

You know, that's something that that's a real tangible threat now. What's the one of the first things you guys told me when I came here? No talk of political violence whatsoever. We need the leftist to start doing the same thing. Well, we said, don't make threats. Don't make threats. Don't say, but they don't talk about violence. Obviously.

But what I'm basically trying to tell you is the Democrats will never tell that to their followers. No. They never tell them to slow down. Like when Charlie Kirk died, I was disgusted with all the people who were celebrating. They either celebrate it or they said that's what Charlie gets for speaking these hateful things. Yeah. That's the person. What more could he have expected, I suppose?

And it's something that even the, even people in Congress, I don't, I think specifically when it comes to Charlie and the assassination of, you know, the assassinated Charlie Kirk. People in positions of power, they generally had the right, they sent the right message. There weren't people in Congress. They weren't notable Democrats that were saying, oh, this is good. But the rank and file were celebrating, first of all. And then if you look back to the summer of the summer of riots in 2020, there were plenty of people in Congress, egging on the rioters, saying things like, we need to be out in the streets.

We need more of it. you had the you had kamala harris was was shilling a website that was paying for the defense the legal defense of these people so to your point absolutely there there needs to be democrats that are actually standing up and saying this is something that we disavow and they need to do it more often because i think that the the people on the ground they they hear a totally different message than the one that the major players are playing you know i believe this is more of a symptom of the times than anything else. We live in an era of political assassinations. People feel as though they feel emboldened to take action into their own hands, and they feel as though they're

justified in taking that action. It isn't only shots on the President Trump's, President Trump that we saw. In Japan, there was a very, and a very effective, I hate to use that word, political assassination of Shenzhou Abe. I listened to Tim's show earlier today where he put it extremely succinct, but it was so morbid it was an effective, the most effective political assassination, I think, of our generation, of Charlie Kirk, because what happened following the death of Charlie Kirk, the right is in complete disarray, and I think these people are emboldened by things like that. And a turning point has become the perpetrator of the crime in which they were the victim. That is probably one of the most terrifying things out of all of this.

Charlie Kirk built an organization that registered young people to vote, convinced young people to support a populist, a pro-American nationalist, all these, you know, this big coalition. He is murdered, by all means, ask questions about by who, whatever you want to think. And today, a large portion of people believe turning point the victim is actually the perpetrator. That's how terrifying the political climate is. the left doesn't have this degree of self-sabotage. And so if you think about not only did the left get everything they could have dreamed of from the murder of Charlie Kirk. And again, I don't know what Robinson's political affiliation is, got a transfer your boyfriend. We'll see what the evidence shows.

So you believe the FBI story? I'm just, I'm so, what does that mean? What does that mean? Oh, what the FBI says, Tara Robinson did all that. Do you believe that? I think that the evidence we have seen thus far, Occam's razor suggests Robinson is the likely culprit. We will see what happens in the trial when evidence is presented,

but there's literally no other story, just a bunch of fucking retards on the internet saying stupid shit. And what that does is the organization that helped get Donald Trump elected, which needs to persist. You're going to be a fan of it, but it certainly will help get individual congressional candidates elected and stop Democrats from launching new committees and putting more people in prison like Steve Bannon and Peter Navarro. Instead, it's being gutted by fucking psychopaths telling people to pull their donations. So when this organization burns to the ground or whatever the

fuck happens to it, maybe they're fine, the organization that's rallying young people causing a shift in the political leanings of a generation for the first time in history is now in dire straits. their leader and founder murdered and prominent pieces of human trash are trying to destroy it. It's fucking evil. So you know what? When someone pulls in front of my property and fires on it several times, I'm sitting and looking at these vile pieces of shit and thinking to myself, for what purpose will I stick my neck out if this is what happens after Charlie Kirk is killed. Candace Owens is a fucking evil scumbag. She is a degenerate

Cunt She is burning everything down And she's gloating and smiling while she does it And you know what you fucking told me? She has no security She doesn't fucking deal with the shit We have to deal with She's a piece of shit

She's making everyone else suffer And all of these fucking conservatives out there That send me these fucking messages Have no fucking balls To call her out More and more people have started doing it They send me these fucking messages Good for you, Tim.

Good for you, Tim. I wasn't the first person to do it. I'm not going to take credit for that. But don't fucking DM me. Like, I did something for you as you cower, as you fucking cower, scared that she'll put you on her thumbnail and claim you benefited from Charlie Kirk's assassination, what she's doing to me right fucking now.

Yeah, that was the... I'm fucking done with these people. She has security just not on the level of you. Oh, yeah, the one fat guy you mentioned with no wall and no barrier in a suburban neighbor with neighbors. Shouldn't give two fucking shit. no one's out for her. She's lying about all of this. You told me, you went to her house, and she's got a four-foot wall and one fat guy. And she doesn't give a shit about our security.

Meanwhile, I get bullets fired at my fucking property, and I have to go live in the middle of nowhere. And I got fucking strangers coming up to my house in Maryland, breaking in. I got people showing up and beating up the residents who are trying to live there. How the fuck am I even supposed to sell this property? And you know, it's all lies, it's all hypocrisy, and it is for the purpose of making money and she does not live the way other people live. And she claims she liked Charlie. She loved Charlie and she is burning everything down that he built because she is evil. She is evil. And I'll say it again, this conservative movement is fractured, it's fried, whatever it is.

Okay. Republicans are on track to lose the midterms. They were actually trending in the other direction until Charlie Kirk was murdered. And this is the point, isn't it? The most effective political assassination in history and thanks to the likes of the vile kunt, Candice Owens, she has turned Turning Point into the perpetrators of the crime that was against them. I don't get paid by any of these people. I'm not on good terms necessarily with Turning Point USA. They didn't invite me to their stupid event. I don't want to go in the, I don't want to go.

They invited me back after I started criticizing Candace. I'm not going to your event. I'm over all of this shit. The last thing that I need to deal with is a bunch of cowards and conservative media refusing to stand up to her. Megan Kelly, come on. I appreciate the kind words. But come on.

Such fucking pathetic bullshit. You know, and I get people saying, Tim, you know, thank you so much you're talking about. I don't care. I'm not doing a favor for anybody. I'm not doing this to benefit anybody. Nobody's paying me. There's no fucking Russia. There's no fucking Israel.

There's just me sticking my neck out and then risking dying for what? A bunch of cowards that I want to stand up to protect themselves? People like fucking Candace Owens. I couldn't believe that she put you in the, in the thumbnail of her piece today. I'm done. The idea that she didn't apply that you had some benefit or that you benefit somehow. She benefited. I think she's a fed and I think she killed Charlie. No one benefited more than her. And now she is, when you look at what's stopping us from winning in 2026 right now,

what the biggest threat and the biggest fear we have is, it is the disarray on the right. It is the fracturing of the coalition of all the different voices that came together and stopped the neoliberal bullshit liberal economic order machine that was coming out and telling everybody to chop their dicks off. And that you had to get, fucking injected or get locked in your house. And here we have a coalition resisting and rejecting that. Charlie Kirk dies. And he's not perfect. He loved Israel. Some people don't like that. But he certainly did organize a movement that brought people together that helped get Trump elected, helped Republicans win and resisted what the Democratic Party had been doing and these

psychopath institutions. I don't want to go back to COVID. Does everybody remember what that was like when you were locked in your home and to wear two masks? And you couldn't. go anywhere unless they stuck you in the arm. And the only resistance we had was these feckless loser Republicans who've got nothing done over the past year. And now Charlie Kirk was murdered. And we say, holy crap, what do we do? How do we keep things together? And Candice, with a smile on her face, and Ian Carroll and all the rest of them say, Turning Point did it to themselves. They destroyed themselves. Polier donations because they work for Israel. Even Nick Fuentes calling it out, saying this is psychotic. So, we're going.

when we lose in the midterms and the Democrats bring back their panels and their subpoenas and they start arresting people like they had already done in the past four years and then we get whatever the equivalent of lockdowns is going to be and you get President Gavin Newsom, you can mark it all back to this moment when you had evil stand, scream and cowards refused to do anything. With all due respect, always every single president loses in midterms. And guess what? Every single one.

The prediction markets showed that it was near 50-50. based on the political swing that we had seen Gen Z, the first generation in a hundred years to tick slightly rightward in some areas, not all, but some. And this was a big moment because while they were very similar to millennials, they were slightly more conservative in some areas. And we saw that in the past couple of years, Gen Z was actually skewing away from LGBTQIA issues. How is this happening? It is not only nor solely, but largely Charlie Kirk and his work with Turning Point. And so turning point certainly has its issues, but don't, there's literally no reason to burn it to the ground. Unless, of course, makes you famous and rich, you know.

So I guess by all means, my issue right now is people are shooting at you. That's obvious who you're certainly. 100%. But we lost Charlie Kirk. You're thinking about, you know, taking off in the sunset. Who we got left? Who we got left? So Charlie's gone.

Candace Owens. Congratulations. Okay. We got Candace. So you can spin around with your dick in your hand, why you sound like a retard to the average person, and then Democrats win. I mean, but you're taking off. Yeah, you know why? Because people are not, when I get private text and messages saying like, oh, yeah, I agree with you, but I would never dare say anything.

I'm like, I'm not doing this. You know, my whole life, I have had a disdain for those who demand others work for them. Now, now, now, I'll hold on for a minute. Like, I understand we all work for each other. I'm saying, I remember when I was younger, I wanted to, I was like, you were in Chicago, I skateboard, but there's nowhere to skate in the winter. So what do we do? What do we do?

Well, holy crap, I figured something out. If 10 of my friends come together and put $100 down every month, we can actually rent a warehouse. And you know what they all said? You do it and then let me know and I'll think about it. And that's the world and that's what people do. So when people message me saying, I wouldn't dare speak about against Candice. I'm just like, oh, fuck off, dude. Coward.

But to the people that have started speaking out, calling her out, you know, good. But it doesn't matter. It doesn't really matter in the end. It doesn't really matter. And then she can say whatever she wants. You can do whatever whack-a-loon shows she wants. The fact that she put me on her thumbnail today titled, who benefited from Charlie Kirk's death,

whether she's retarded, I don't think she is, or doing it intentionally as it doesn't matter. The message is clear. You speak up against her and she will sick people on you. Is that the purpose? I called her out? Absolutely, that was the point. The reason she put you on the thumbnail was because you had the audacity to call her out.

And no one else would. And people don't. And so many people don't. Like when Ben Shapiro was on with Megan Kelly and Megan Kelly deferred and then said, I'm all demurred. And then later came out and said, Candace never said that. It's like, you know what, man. She can say every which way a million times, but never.

directly say it for plausible deniability. As if we're retarded. I just, it's what a stupid world to live in. So listen, it's not just about her. She comes up because she, you know, I guess there it is. You know, she put me on her thumbnail. She's, she's a piece of trash.

And we have, we have death threats against us consistently. For too long, we don't talk about it. Now, the problem is the one thing we talked about in October was I think we're one of the few shows that actually invites the public to come. not like literally anyone in the public, but we probably send out address location

five times a day to various people who are booking on this show. Well, for that, we are more likely to get doxed. I don't know how we continue doing a show like this. I don't know how we do it. And that's the conversation we were having earlier. So it's possible the 19th is the last Timcaste IRL.

I'm not going to stop doing content, but the general thought is if I only do a solo VOD show like I used to before we did IRL, then there's no other guests. There's undisclosed location. And I can do the show from a camper in the middle of the desert with Starlink, if that's the case. Right now, the issue is people are coming to our properties. And even property that we had hidden, this is what people don't get. I'll talk to somebody. And the first thing they always say is, well, what you got to do to do to hide your property, stop? Do you think we've not done that? We've literally done that for all of our properties. And they still get doxed. Maybe because it's the feds, I don't know. I don't know how they find some of these locations. We put them in trust. We put them in LLCs. We put them in other people's names or whatever. And whatever legal means you have to obfuscate.

And somehow we get swatted. Somehow people are showing up. Packages are being left on. And it's just, okay. So I don't know how we navigate this. But I will say this. The threat has never been more real. And we had to cancel Boone's skate night.

There's no way we can invite 50 to 100 people to come for a big skateboarding event. We can't vet. We can't protect ourselves against targeted drive-by shootings or if this really does escalate to a more serious degree. So I don't know if there is an answer. And this is the plain reality of the country that we are living in right now. I want to go to have a meetup event. We want to say like, hey, guys, come hang out with us. This is what we did on Saturday.

I have to have a security guard come with me to the bathroom. And I'm not unique in that. A lot of people live that way. More famous and wealthier people than I. What an insane way to live. But that's the profession you chose. You chose. You worked hard. You became number one.

When you're number one in anything, you're going to be a target for a whole bunch of people. It is what it is. This is society we live in. Well, you know what the issue is? Back in the day, when you were at this level of political influence, you could afford security. But the issue now is, I would argue that maybe, I don't know, I don't know the number I gave earlier today, but I was like, maybe what 80% of the content.

we produce is not seen on our platforms with our advertisers and our members. It's clipped and redistributed through massive networks, which all make money off the content we produce, and we can't get that money. So we have the influence that reaches 50 million people, and half of them want to murder me, but we don't have the 10 million viewers per night that would afford us the ability to have a secure facility. and you look at Fox News and they have a big skyscraper in New York, they've got security guards, you can't even get in that building. You can't get anywhere near those studios in the glass is probably bulletproof. That's Fox News with carriage fees and big cable networks and, I guess, longstanding position in the market with billions of dollars and probably an endowment

that generates money. We don't have that. Well, listen, just my advice. I'm from Miami, Florida, and I got doxed. And after I got doxed and I got dached and I got swatted, I did two things. Number one, I moved into a high rise with security. Number two, I got to be good friends with the mayor

to make sure something like that didn't happen again. So there are options. There are options. Obviously, you're at a whole different level. But listen, if you get a penthouse in some place in Miami or they say Sunny Isles or someplace in Florida where you have real top-notch security, like the Portia Tower in Sunny Isles,

you cannot get in that building. It's literally the FBI guarding that building. That's a good point. So if I were you, You work too freaking hard to build what you got to give up. Change locations, adapt or die. Again, you adapt in this world or you die. And what I'm crazy to be trying to tell you is move to a better location and do this 10 times harder.

The people who fucking disdain to say, fuck you. I'm sorry for my friends. Nah, you deserve it because I went off too. You know what I mean? We're having fun, right? Let me pull this up from Benny Johnson, and it's not just about me. Benny Johnson tweets, this man shut up at my home where my wife and children live. He was ranting about me and went door to door in my neighborhood trying to find me,

terrifying my neighbors. We believe he was armed and fled before the cops arrived. He then explicitly and publicly threatened the lives of Matt Walsh and his wife and children. He recently showed up at Cat Tert's home, ranting and raving about me and Matt Walsh and Laura Lumer. Thank you to the FBI and DOJ for investigating these threats and swiftly arresting stalker Andrew Iyer. He was clearly spiraling in a very dangerous way. I don't like to speak publicly about this kind of stuff because it involves my family and their security. I'm sick over it.

But I have an obligation to amplify this case as if it's one of multiple ongoing criminal prosecutions for threats against my family. Over the past year, I've watched my president get shot in the head and my friend get assassinated. Things are spiraling wildly out of control. There are real world consequences for psychotic rhetoric and lies amplified online enough. If you are threatening my family, expect me to fight back with full force. There is nothing I wouldn't do to protect my family. I would gladly die for them. This is good versus evil, darkness versus light.

the battle is spiritual with Christ, we will win. And this man was arrested for, you can see here, threatening Matt Walsh's family stalking Laura Lumer. Lumer believes that she was the next target, trying to track down Benny Johnson. And this is in Tampa, Florida, of all places, you know, I think next year is going to get substantially worse. And we do have to adapt. We do have to change what we're doing here. And so right now, I don't know how we do it quickly is the issue. We have one week left in this studio for the year, and then we're doing a week in Vegas, which is very secure. And I'm very confident about that because it ain't just our security we're going to have. There's a lot of security that we've been working with.

And then the 19th, we go on the Christmas hiatus. It's pretty long this year because I think Christmas is a Wednesday. And then New Year's is a Wednesday, too. So there's literally no way around it. When we come back on the fifth, we will be in Florida and... Beautiful state. Beautiful state. And we will be doing the show down there as we attempt to figure out how we navigate this.

And, you know, the mistake I think we all make, I think we make is we should have done this three months ago. The moment they killed Charlie, we should have immediately had an emergency meeting and said, we're changing how we do everything. It should not have come. It should not have come down to a shooting to make us start freaking out and being like, okay, now we're on, now we're on, you know, highest, highest alert. So it's not just here. This, Benny Johnson posted this the same day we posted about the shooting. And I do believe the arrest was actually made.

This was, I believe it was mid-November. So they were sitting on this probably. They didn't want to say anything for security reasons. the more we talk about it, the more we potentially put at risk our current situation. So, you know, with one week left here, we just ramped up security to a greater degree. And then we're like, we're going to Vegas. We're on hiatus. We're not coming back.

I don't know how we do it. You make a great point. Penthouse. It's a really good idea. If you want, I'll introduce you to the mayor of Sunny Isles. That's probably the most prestigious city in Miami. That's where I live, a suburb. I can get you to the people in the Porsche Tower.

Billionaires live there. Go visit them all the time. Be more than happy to give you some introductions. Listen, bro. I don't know that we have that money. I don't know you well enough. I just met you. But you worked too damn hard to get where you are to quit because some fucking cowards

took some shots at you, bro. You work too damn hard to get in the position to just quit, my friend. And again, I don't know you. But it's not just quitting. I mean, you're letting them win? You're letting them win. No, the idea is, the way I look at it, it's like, I could be wrong. I don't track every single show, but while there's a lot of shows with guests, we do, like,

the function of this show is an in-person sit down every day. And, you know, a couple of years ago, it's really funny. One prominent leftist we invited on cased our property before knocking on the door. Yeah, I'm not going to say what it was. They, they showed up quietly, got out of their car, and, and then walked all the way around the perimeter, checking for something, I don't know, and then came to the door and knocked. And we were like, oh, hey, what's going on?

And then our security was like, he was stalking the property. He was like, we don't know if he was filming or what was he doing. And we were like, that's weird. That's how crazy things have gotten. So the idea right now is we can't do a show that invites people out every single day. We can't do it. We, like, you know, look, I get it. The boonies.

maybe it was stupid to even consider having skate events. There was a lot of hype and everyone was really excited for it. We canceled that we can't do it. And so now the idea is any kind of public location that's a studio has to be in some kind of compound with guards and it can't just be us. Like the way this works is if there's like 15 companies in one corporate complex, like you were mentioning like a skyscraper, a penthouse or something like that. Or I was mentioning Fox News, you're mentioning penthouses.

a structure that has distributed resources for prominent security, making it very difficult to reach those levels. A penthouse is actually a really great idea. You need four levels of security. First level of security. When someone goes into the building, they check in. They have to give their ID to get in the building. They get the gate open.

Second level of security, they have to get in the front desk. They have to call you. There's no numbers on the elevator. They have to push you up themselves. And that's the third level of security. You have the people up there. So you literally have three levels of security. Someone has to get through.

And they're not, listen, I, I get death threats all the time too probably not at any level you do but I'm pretty prominent in my space and they don't like me because most of people in my space are liberals and leftists and I'm the only right winger in there who gets any publicity and stuff like that

you need to take care of yourself and your family number one you have to go into the penthouse that is the only thing at this point that can have a bridge between you and everyone else because how much of those costs I mean and where I'm talking about about 20, 30 racks a month

month? 2030 Rex? Thousand,000. Oh. What I mean like to buy? 10 mil, eight mil. It's worth it. I mean, that's where I live. Man, look where you wake up every day and you see the ocean. You see the beach. I mean, listen, listen. I don't, I don't listen. Listen, listen, you have this place around here. I'm sure it's cool for somebody they like to go hunting and all this stuff. But when you wake up every day and you see that. ocean it calms you down a little bit all this stuff that's going on in your life you see that ocean you hear those breezes coming through your mountain man it will count it no i'm not i'm not a water brother have you noticed the hat that i wear i'm not i'm not a florida kind of guy you know

i'm a i'm a mountain guy i like i like the mountains i'll go on vacation back here but this is this but you make a good point this is true there's no other place you can have penhouses with that level of security unless you're in miami or you know you don't want to go to homosexual l a way and stuff like that so that's all you have. I don't want to go to L.A. You need an office in Fox News's building in Manhattan. Elad was like, have you considered selling the Fox News?

Stop! You had to make that public? You just made the press go up. No, I mean, I know they have very secure facilities in Washington, D.C. and in New York City. We're a small company here. The security costs are, you know,

there's a huge barrier to entry. But like, again, we're in this political climate of danger. People are threatening one another. Also, one of the reasons Marjorie Taylor Green allegedly resigned was because of the death threats of violence against her. There was that dude in Maine who resigned? Yeah. The Democrat guy.

I don't, I don't, or I'm sorry, he's announced his retirement. I don't know if he's actually resigned just yet. But yeah, Marjorie Taylor Green saying it's getting crazy. Behind the scenes, it's not my place to speak for anybody. There are a lot of people in independent media, right-leaning media. They're talking about quitting. Quitting or going into hiding. I think this is publicly known.

Like Tucker moved to the middle of nowhere. Yeah. Everybody knew that a long time. He was buying a house in Qatar. Did he really? Yeah, yesterday. He's leaving the country. He didn't say he was leaving, but he said he was going to purchase property in Qatar.

You know, I've been looking at El Salvador? I hear it's great. I think they'd like to have you in Israel. Get a last security there for you. Yeah, I hear Alad can sponsor you. I think we could get you a visa. Yeah. Um, yeah.

Look, I mean, whatever steps that you need to take to guarantee security, obviously, that's, you know, primary. You've got wife and kit, you know, and, and let me, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I was going to say something. Well, just this kind of, you can't, you can't live under this kind of threat all the time. And again, the point was to scare you, obviously, because, you know, I mean, thankfully, that's all that it was. you know, the person that carried this out,

they didn't have the intent of actually hitting someone. If they did, they would have gone about it totally different. But this was in order to scare you, this was to do exactly what's going on to have, you know, have a bunch of chaos at the studio, have a bunch of chaos on the show. And what's next? Exactly.

I mean. What's next is the actual shooting? Yeah. So it doesn't matter if they're like, I hope this scares him. It's like, yes, because we know, no matter what happens, the next thing is the actual shooting.

Because someone else will be like, oh, you know, I can do it better. They'll try and one up and stuff. I want to address the retards. This is, what is that? Is that real? The really, what is it? Really hydro? You changed your name.

Tim, why didn't you act like this when you had a bullet in your kitchen? I'm not saying you're lying, but we can use more evidence of a crime. Because the bullet in my kitchen was from my guy. My guy shot the gun. I like West Virginia. We had three people break under the property. This was just before we were moving in. And our, our security guy, our guy here, shot at them, putting a bullet in the cupboard island

in one of the buildings. And they, I, this, what, the guy jumped out the window, shattered it. And they got in a car. I guess two guys ran out the back. One guy jumped through the window, breaking it. And then, the window was broken. And, uh, way to get replaced. And then they sped off. So we don't know what that was. But this was before we officially moved. moved into the new studio. I tweeted a photo of that bullet hole and said, our guy fired a shot. So, you know, now people are taking only one of the tweets out of the series

and then making it seem like we got shot then because they're manipulating you, because people are stupid and they fall for it. You've got to be used to people taking things out of context by now. Oh, yeah, of course. Yeah. So what's... I got to say the incentives, Tim, almost don't seem like. like they're there for you. I mean, I deeply appreciate the work that you do. And I think a lot of

other people in the media space think you're an invaluable asset in the media space for people who actually seek truth and don't just pretend to. But like, from your perspective, you are sacrificing so much. You have a wife and daughter. And I don't think it's breaking news to anybody that they're probably scared shitless as well. And you know, there are serious threats to your life. This isn't the first time that you've been swatted or there's been an attack against you. And you have every position and right to just say, F it. I'm a multi-millionaire. I don't need to work another day in my life. I have a hundred vans and I have a hundred beaches that I can go drive by to it. And Tim, you literally don't have to do this at all. And, you know, it kind of begs

the question, what continues to motivate you? Because you're still, the day you quit is the day that Alad starts a lot cast IRA. Is that what's... Well, actually, I'm now going to announce that Elad will be taking the show over. Damn, that was going to be Candice Owens' assumption and conspiracy the whole time. If anything ever happens to you, I don't mean to make this about myself, but I think We know who's getting some of the blame. I'd hit up Israel and see how much, you know, they're willing to put down and be like, hey, yo, Israel, I could do this show, just got to pay up and Tim will exit, you know what I mean? You know, I'm surprised that she, Candace hasn't accused you of taking money from Israel already.

Actually, I think she might have, but... I don't know. If it was anyone else who called her out, she'd be putting their face on her thumbnails. Yeah. It's like, that's the point. Everyone's terrified of her. Granted, more people have started coming out and calling her out, which I'm glad they are. But I just...

I think people understand that that is actually, Tim, the future of the Republican Party. People like Candace Owens, people like Tucker Carlson, who, again, make excuses for people like Candace Owens. And then I get, and I think people like Meg and Kelly, too, who probably know better, but are going to shut their mouth because they're scared of, you know, getting the wrath of Candace Owens put on them. They're cowards. People like Megyn Kelly, I've watched do literal news, legitimate news for a long time. She should know better. She's more concerned about audience capture. She's more worried about people watching her show and not getting on the bad side of Candice Owens.

And it's pathetic, frankly. And there's a lot of people like that in the media space who do know better but are just scared. You know, there are scary people out there. There are very scary personalities. Milo is a scary guy. Milo knows what you did. I'm not joking. There are a lot of people out there.

And I'm actually surprised. And I've talked about this. I think Milo literally talked about this. You know, a lot of people canceled him. And, you know, I think this is. I think he was talking about this. I think he talked about it on the show when he was working with the A. He was like, there's a lot of people that destroyed his career.

And he, behind the scenes with nothing else to do, dug up dirt on everybody. And there are scary people. He's like Rorschach. I think he's fucking disgusting. He's not driven by truth. He's driven by personal vendettas. And he's like, frankly, he's no asset to the right wing movement. He's all about just himself.

His values are disgusting. He's a disgusting person. He has no issue to lie, steal and cheat to help himself. If we're dealing with people like that solely in the movement, I think we deserve to lose. I consider Milo the Roger Stone of the influencer world. What does that mean? He's a fixer. Elaborate.

If people need to find stuff out or dig up information, that's what he does. And let me tell you something. And it won't matter if it's true. Milo will just make shit up about you. Listen, listen, listen. I don't know. I'm not talking about what he makes up, what he doesn't. I will tell you this.

Milo has a network. I don't want to go too much into it, but a lot of people are scared of them. I'll just say that. Yeah, because he's a charlatan. There are many charlatans on the right. There's a handful. There's Ian Carroll.

Carol. There's Milo Unopolis. There's Candice Owens. All of these are charlatans who are willing and happy to lie to you to advance whatever cause they think they are advancing. Whatever they think is right. I wouldn't describe Milo that way.

I think he's very Machiavellian. He's willing to lie. But Charlton's a different word. Yeah. So if you want to say that, you know, Mylo is cunning. and subversive and Machiavellian. And a truthworthy.

The way I described trustworthy for a lot of people in politics is, you know, it's, you can trust the scorpion to sting the frog, right? So. You could trust that Milo will lie to you, yes, and manipulate you. I give Milo an 80-20, whereas a lot of people just get a straight, you know, if they're a straight shooter, they're a straight shooter. What I basically mean by that is there's a degree to which I don't necessarily trust Milo. I don't, you know, but I largely do. I don't think he acts appropriately, however, and I don't think he's right about everything. And I do believe that he is, he's very, very good at, it's subversive, the right word.

He's willing to slander whoever because of his past grievances. I believe he, didn't he call Charlie Kirk gay just because he thought that Kirk kept him out of the movement? Like, he's willing to say whatever about Erica Kirk. He's willing to back up whatever. Dennis Owen says now only because he has this personal vendetta from the past. He doesn't care about burning it down. I would put it like this. I find that to be a very, very plausible explanation for his views, as George Santos even pointed out, that Milo was slandering people involved with Turning Point, largely siding with Candice because he is personally, I guess, offended by what Charlie Kirk said about him.

so he's biased. So, yeah. Some of the stuff he said here on Friday was true. I'm not going to elaborate what, but some of the- Doesn't matter if- I don't want to elaborate what, though. It doesn't matter if the other half of what he said isn't true, though? I mean, listen, it's just like the government.

You got to read between the lines. They ain't going to tell you the truth. Got to read between the lines. I think that's some bullshit, though, because I don't try to deceive people. Like, I may have politics that I believe in, but I'm not willing to lie, cheat, steal, and manipulate to try to advance those causes. Maybe I'm not Machiavellian enough. Maybe that's why I don't have 150,000 live viewers like Candace Owens does. Maybe that's what you need to do in the space. Maybe

politics is just as dirty as everybody makes it out to be. Maybe you need to imply that people are involved in things that they aren't involved in to gain a following. Maybe it's okay to, you know, risk putting other people at violence as risk to, you know, advance your narrative. It's crazy. Who stands to gain from Charlie Kirk being killed? Well, it seems as though Candace Owens has benefited the most off of Charlie Kirk's death. not Tim Poole, not Andrew Colvin, not Erica Kirk, not J.D. Vance. It seems Candice Owens really benefited the most out of this. Just because it seems fascinating, you know, that we're not really looking into this, right?

Because, you know, just from presumptive reasoning, she stood to gain, right? Look at all this circumstantial evidence, man. She's benefiting so much of this. She had to be involved. She's got lawyers that work in a federal building. She gets ousted from Turning Point. She immediately seeks to burn Turning Point down. I would argue that, I would argue that, I,

I don't play the games that she does, but following the assassination of Charlie Kirk, she had every reason to destroy Turning Point USA. And I don't think she's actually trying to investigate Charlie's death. I think she's saying, now's my opportunity that Charlie's gone to burn down TPUSA. Maybe so. Maybe so. But listen, when Charlie died, and again, that was a tragic event. I think they took out what is possibly a future American president. Yeah.

And I think he would have been a future American president in the future. So they took a future American president for us. But when he died, you had two people going after his audience. Candace Owens and Nick Flentes. Nick even moved a little bit more, started becoming a little bit more moderate to get that audience. So just because Candice won that battle and, you know, took more of Charlie Kirk's audience that, you know, Nick Flentis did doesn't necessarily mean that... Dude, I agree. I'm being facetious when I make that argument. No, I agree with you wholeheartedly.

I'm making that argument because I'm mocking Candace Owens because that's how she makes her arguments only based off. circumstantial evidence. So I agree with you. I'm mocking Kurt. I got you. Tim, I did want to ask though. Candice Owens did put a thumbnail up. It says the billion dollar question on it and it says who stood to benefit from Charlie Kirk's assassination. It's your put on there and then FBI. And Cash Patel. What do you think she's trying to achieve by having you on her thumbnail with the quote, who stood to benefit? It doesn't matter what I think she wants to achieve. What will the outcome be? What do you think? I think that Candace Owens is born in 1989, the year of the snake, and I think that's why she's number one right now.

Because she's a snake. So anyway, hold on a numerology. The question I asked was, he said, why do I think that she put me on her thumbnail today with a title of the billion dollar the question, who stands to gain? It's Cash Patel and it's me. I said, her intention doesn't matter. The outcome of the action does. And what do you think the outcome will be of her putting me in cash on this thumb? To get a response out of you?

Just, that's it? I mean, listen, you're a titan. You're a titan in this industry and she's getting there, too. So you guys talking about each other is going to get out. She's always been bigger than me, dude. I don't know. Dude, she's implying that. Tim Poole had something to do with this.

That's what she's more than double mine. I mean, if you count out all your channels together, it's a little different. Oh, yeah, but come on, those are overlapping subscribers. She's always had a bigger show. She's always got, she had 150,000 live viewers today. Popular. I think it's very clear what she was trying to do here. She was trying to imply that Tim had something to do with this

because circumstantially... But this doesn't matter. The question is, what will the outcome of that be? She's trying to rile up her audience. People will be mad at you. They'll be pointing the finger and saying, Candice thinks that it was Tim and so we should hate something. And then what does that result?

Violence. Violence towards Tim Poole. That is her goal. That's what I believe her goal here is with this thumbnail. Yes. Wholeheartedly. Will the outcome of her making that... Be the case. I think she has a large audience of complete fucking retards, so of hundreds of thousands of

complete fucking retards. Millions. Millions of retards. Well, that's democracy, baby. I don't know. It's a scary thought. Yeah. And I don't think that she is the future of the Republican Party.

It is interesting. Is it true that Tucker's buying a house in Doha? Doha? I don't only think this is a message to you, Tim. I think this is a message to everybody else in the movement. Don't step out of fucking line. you challenge me. I'll take on Tim Poole.

I'll take on any of you guys if you're willing to call me out on what you think is bullshit. I don't give a shit is what I think her message. You know, these people, these people, they have tried to control me

for so long and it just have never been able to do it when we had Milo one on Friday. It was funny because I pointed out like, there are a lot of people that have come to me and said, Tim, we will make you very rich. We just need guardrails.

They don't say it like that. They're like, let us handle all the posting scheduling for you and we'll give you your stories. It'll be really easy. You don't got to worry about it. You'll end up making way more money. We can get you subject matter that will hit better and trend tracking.

And then I said, I have this really funny story where I said, what if I want to do, I don't want to conflate these stories and imply one person said something when they didn't say something. So I'll clarify. There's been a general conversation around this from various podcast networks and big companies. And when I say something like, yes, but, you know, I just called Candace, I went to con. And they'd be like, well, you can't do that. You can't say that. That's, that's a bridge too far.

You're going to lose sponsors, those advertisers, and I was like, oh, I don't want to do it then. Like, maybe sometimes I just feel like saying it. I don't got a script. And then I slam the table, you know. I think your audience appreciate it a little out of hand, I guess. That you don't compromise your authenticity. Once you get a couple M's, you start, you know.

M's? Once you get a couple millions, about eight figures, nine figures, you start getting a little bit more. No one's going to tell me what the fuck to say. But that's the story of my life. that's how I'm here. Otherwise, I'd just be working for ABC News. I worked at ABC News.

I left. They were like, hey, Tim, here's the message. I was like, nah. I sat down with the president of Fusion. And he said, it's been, I've told us a million times, but it's like, it was something to the effect of, I said something like, if there is a story that would offend our audience, are you saying we will not cover it? And he says, yeah, I think that's fair, yeah. That's Garby.

That was, that was, that was the ABC News Univision Joint Venture. And then I was like, nah. And then they said, okay, contract was up. And they were like, thank you and have a nice day. They actually sent me 40 grand. I love this story. So I was beefing with them. And it wasn't like that I was screaming in their faces or anything like that.

I was saying like, hey guys, do you see how you made this like trans kids thing? One of the first videos they did. I got a bunch of views. And I was like, that's kind of weird. you want to know it gets tons of views, this other thing. And then we did this campaign for them where we took an existing piece of content they already had. It was called Open Mic Massacre, where it mocked political correctness. And I said, we're going to boost this on social media.

We're going to share it. That's literally what we're going to do. We're going to share it on social media. We're going to post it in forums. And we're going to be like, guys, check this out. It's really great. And we did. And it got half a million views and they gained 2,000 subs overnight.

And then the political ideologues got really mad. and they were like, Tim Poole's a white supremacist or something like that. And then I was like, because I took content you made and promoted it, well, you know, in opposed to political correctness. And then they regretted doing it. It was really funny. And so I'm not playing ball. They had a black and brown forum is what it's called, where they had presidential candidates come

and they were going to have their top talent, you know, interview these presidential candidates. I'm one of their senior correspondence, highly paid, well-respected. and they contracted a black man from New York instead of me. Now, I don't know if this guy is, but it means he's a great talent. I don't want to rain at a parade or anything. Seems like a nice guy. However, they had their top talent,

and then one guy they contracted. So I went to the president, I was like, I was like, you know, I'm not trying to be a dick and, like, you know, cause any issues or anything, but why did you guys bring in a contractor instead of having me? I'm one of your senior correspondence.

And they said, well, you look too white. And then I was like, I'm second. That's what they actually said? Yes. And I said, I'm second generation mixed race. And he goes, come on, man. And then I was like, whatever, bro. So we were beefing quite a bit.

And then I remember I got a phone call. I got an email and they were like, Tim, we need to talk with you. And this was, I think it was a, what was it, a two-year contract? They wanted a three-year one. It's a two-year contract. And I should have done the three-year because then they would have paid me out. When they went defunct, I would have got a lot more money. So it was like a year and a year and a quarter, maybe.

a year and a half. I get this email. And so I get a phone call thinking like, oh, they're going to, they're going to ask to like close up my contract. I bet. I swear. And this guy calls me and he's just like, so I know that there's been issues and we've been trying to work through them and I respect your position on these things. And I'm thinking, here we go, here we go. And he goes, so I just wanted to let you know that things been going pretty good. And we have a bonus for you. It's $40,000. you'll see it in your bank account probably in a couple days. We don't want you to be alarmed. So thank you for the hard work.

And I was like, what? Okay. And a bonus. The company wasn't even making money. And then sure enough, I took me about 40. It was like after taxes like 27 or something. I'm like, it's gave me 20 grand. I think that was them being like, come on, Tim.

The money's good. And then, you know, I don't, I didn't do anything. So come August, they were just like, I got the phone call again, and they're like, we're calling to let you know that we will not be renewing your contract. We appreciate everything. Thank you and have an I stay. And he says, likewise, click. After they gave you a bonus, they let you go?

Like four months later or something? Change of management? No, I think the money was fall in line and it'll be good. And when they gave me the money and I still didn't, like, I'm not doing it. I'm not making the weird, whoa, garbage. Like, one of the things I talked about at that company is when the Ghost in the Shell movie came out, they were having an editorial meeting and they were like, this is whitewashing.

They're having Scarlett Johansson play a Japanese woman. That's racist. And I said, yeah, maybe it is weird to choose Scarlet Johansson. However, I'm a big ghost in the shell fan. And one of the themes of the show is how you can change your body, like prosthetic bodies. So it's not really the message in a negative sense. It's more of like a you can be any person you want. In fact, in Ghost in the Shell standalone comedy,

complex, the major is actually asked, why do you prefer female model bodies? And they were like, we're going to go with the racism on this one. And I was like, okay, it's like, whatever. They just wanted to find racism everywhere, you know? So here we are, I guess. I genuinely believe that the right coalition is outside of the machine and the Uniparty. I think the neoliberal, the liberal economic order, the machine state, all of that stuff is still the corporate press, I think for a while it looked really good for Trump and his administration, but now it's starting to shift with the death of Charlie Kirk. The most effective political assassination, probably of our lifetimes, maybe in our history. The left has faced no serious repercussions.

The many on the right are now rallying against the victims of the assassination. Could there be a better outcome for the left? Now, you can make the argument the left didn't kill Charlie whatever. They celebrated his death. AOC went on the house floor and said he was a bad person no one should celebrate. And instead of saying, guys, we have a political violence problem and it's coming from the left, the conversation on the right, half of it at least, is turning point is the murderer. Like what? They're the victims. Their organization is the victim in this. So I look what's going on and it screams op that that so many people are coming out and claiming that turning point are the perpetrators of the crime against themselves.

Well, if your goal was to destroy the right coalition, you'd take out Charlie Kirk and you'd destroy his organization. So I look at it like this. I don't care about the intent. That's a meaningless question. I can't read minds. The question is, what is the outcome? So you can complain that someone intends to do something and call them evil.

Fine, that was always allowed to. But if we're talking about building a future and winning midterm elections and winning presidential elections and making this country better and securing our border and fixing our grocery price problem, which Trump has not been good on. If we're going to do all of that, we need to have a, we need to discuss what will the outcome be if this action is taken? And the assassination of Charlie Kirk has destroyed the right coalition. And the actions of Candace Owens, Ian Carroll and others is now destroying what's left of what Charlie built.

They're erasing what Charlie built that helped win Donald Trump elections. Really? I don't care about what they claim. I don't care about what Candace says her motivation is. I can't read minds. I can only look at the work her, people like Ian Carroll, these other smaller podcasters, do, and say, the only outcome of their action will be to destroy turning point, which helps Donald Trump and the Republicans win. The outcome will then be Democrats winning the midterms.

And what did Candace say? Do you remember what you said about this? Quote, we don't care about your midterms. Agreed. So when the Democrats win and they start locking up more lawyers and media press, personalities. And like Steve Bannon said, he'll be going to prison. Then we can say, thank you, Candace Owens, for helping the Democrats win. And if you're a Democrat, you'll say yes. I mean, look at the, you know, I recommend you guys go to the comment section of the Young Turks.

Their audience is, the audience is indistinguishable. I, yeah, they're all, they're all big Candace fans. Yeah. And Marjorie Taylor Green fans, though. I mean, we, we live in the era where the far left and the far right agree on one thing, they're hate for Israel. I mean, that, that's the, that's the era we live in right now. I don't want to make this. I'm just telling you what it is. But in many times, a lot of Candace's beef seems like a proxy for Israel. And I can't help but feel like her and Ben Shapiro had a falling out.

And politics is deeply, deeply personal for 90% of the people involved. And she's just going scorched earth as a result of that, as a result of the deal that fell through between them. There is that phenomenon where you want to help someone, but they don't want your help, but you try and give it to them anyway. and ends up hurting them. And I think that's what Candace is doing to Turning Point. I don't think she, it's impossible to say what's in her head, but it doesn't seem, her actions don't seem to show.

Why don't you spend on, how would you figure this could be helping, or how would you think that this is helping Turning Point? I potentially, she thinks that there was more to the assassination and that she wants, because Turning Point can't do it. They can't say anything about it because they're kind of in it. Is that why she said people should pull their donations from Turning Point? No. Will that help them?

No. That won't help them? Oh, that's a strange thing to do if you're trying to help turning point. Yeah, maybe I'm wrong. Yeah. Maybe she started off with some inkling of I want to help these people. She said, if Erica asked me to stop, I'm going to stop. And apparently...

And that what she's saying about Erica is crazy. She just had an episode titled, It was Erica who called for TP USA to Uninvite Me? If Erica asked her to stop, Erica's going to look like she's trying to cover something up. If Erica asks her to stop, she'll just blame that... She'll say someone's controlling Erica. That's what I said. Yeah, it'll look like Eric is trying to come up. cover it up if she asked Candace to stop. So she can't

tell her to stop. So she's stuck. I don't think that's true at all. I think Erica absolutely should reach out to Candice. It may be too late at this point. Ian, I think we can put that theory to bed. I don't think that she's actually trying to help any one of them. You might, I don't know. Just like no one knows her intention about her. But maybe, you know. I think one of the most unfortunate

things about this is that there's a ton of things, but one of the things that comes to mind is that like the part of this new media, an independent media, the promise of the independent media was that we were going to cover stories unbiasedly and we're going to do it with the conviction and then we're going to get to the bottom of stories that the mainstream media didn't want to do. But what I see more often than not coming out of independent media is just like unconfirmed rumor and hearsay. Well, more so.

Yes. Like in recent history, it's a lot of just, I love, man, I got a shout out Nick Fuentes of all people. He had such a great, it was like an eight minute video went viral where he was talking about what's currently going on. And he was like, Ian Carroll. He's like, Ian Carroll tweeted at Charlie Kirk on September 7th, you work for the Jews that are destroying America. Four days later, he said he was sure that Israel killed Charlie Kirk. What happened in those four days, Ian? And I was like, it's a great point. What happened in those four days?

There was another line. Maybe Ian got the call. There's another line where he goes in regards to Candace Owens, where he was just saying about Charlie Kirk. like the most pro-Israel guy, right? Candice Owens, like Israel allegedly killed him. This is the literal most pro-Israel guy that the right wing currently had to offer, especially given his age. He was supposed to bridge the divide between Gen Z, you know, not being the most pro-Israel generation. And then they would allegedly kill Charlie Kirk. Like, I can't imagine a dumber person for Israel to go after. But Nick's making, she's making Nick look moderate, Candice Owens.

Maybe is that, is that, is that, it's like the dark night thing where she's, she's playing the villain because. And normalized Fuentes. He's taking the fall for it. You know, you mentioned independent media. There's a big difference between an independent journalist and an independent guy that talks about his feelings. And, like, sometimes you'll do 10 hours of research and post your thing and it'll get no money.

And then the next day, you'll post your emotions about something you read and it'll get 10 times the income. And you're like, why am I spending eight hours actually researching when I can make 50 times the amount of money just spouting my shit? Because it's actually this simple. I was, we talked about us a couple weeks ago, the reading level, reading comprehension of the American population is around like seventh grade.

And that means if you're, if you're using obscure words, the average person can't understand what you're saying. If your show, you know what? I actually think about how we started this show. We had the, I've got this little stream deck. We had a soundboard. And I could press, press a button and Gratututonby would go, how dare you? How dare you?

And then I had Eric Swalwell go, cheat, an election, cheat, an election. And Adam wore whole cans. And it was very much like, it was news, but it was goofy. Yeah. Because we were originally intending the show to be a goofoff session. Like the first few episodes were about like Skinwalker Ranch, UFOs and just whatever. And then I guess because of COVID, things started to turn more political in every facet. So the conversation around what are we doing in government because of the lockdowns and things like that?

Everyone was interested. And so those are the subjects that we started pulling up. But it was literally just, you know, like a soundboard with goof. goofy noises and... It was basically what we were doing after dinner, like hanging out playing cars, but with the camera on. Exactly. We'd sit down and then we'd just goof off and then we'd go play magic or something. And then the show started to become a bit more serious as we got into politics, got bigger guests, the table got bigger.

And then the show became very serious. Sounds like a natural transition than me. You know, what's interesting is it could have been the COVID lockdowns. Everybody was watching podcasts. It could have been that the format we had of Hulk Handel. and soundboards is a lot more fun. I kind of think that it is. But it wasn't really what I did, you know, or what I do.

The point ultimately is, Ian, if you make your show for a third-grade reading level, you will get way more viewers. In fact, I think this is true of music. Phil, have you read this? Oh, yeah. The songs that have a third-grade reading level, like all the biggest songs tend to have like a third-grade reading level. Our guitar player, Mike, is notorious for someone shows him a riff.

It used to be Ollie would show him a riff very technical. and Mike would just be like, well, yeah, but you should play it the dumb way. You know, play it the dumb way, you know, let kids bob their head. And if you're going to sing a complicated word, sing the syllables, so it's just a bunch of sounds that people can understand. Hey, you know, whatever, eh you, instead of a you. But this is why, like, a lot of the top songs, lyrics are lowest common denominator. More people. Smart people don't mind a song that's just like drum and bass, you know what I mean?

But if you make a song that's intentionally smart with, like, crazy, lyrics, you're going to get very few people. I always love this show is pretty highbrow for like a podcast. Except when I crash out and start screaming and slamming on the table, perhaps. Exactly. Except that you just clip for me. Those are my favorite episodes. We'll pull up like the darkest liberal

economic order, bricks alliance, geopolitical nightmare scenarios that have pretty intelligent conversations about it generally. And it does bring people up, but it doesn't discount what you're saying about least common denominator slop. So this is where we announced that going forward after this year, We're bringing the soundboard back.

We're going to play more clips of Eric Swalwell while farting. And the how dare you? Because even though it's like 10 years old at this point, still funny. Yeah, it's going to be more reminiscent of like the early morning drive time. Yeah. With the wacky, some of those. That's what it was. And we'll get one of those.

What are those things where you spin and it clicks? I don't know what's called. Cowbell. Doop do, do. Okay. Bring some music back. We used to play music on Fridays. That was fun.

Friday night after the show at 9.30 we'd go to music session instead of Super chats. What a lighthearted event that was, man. There's still recordings of it on YouTube. You can look them up. Sure they are. Well, I mean, we could, we, like, the only reason we haven't done musical guests is because no one's done musical guests. We live in a nation and when most people don't even know what the petrol of our system is. So, I mean, come on, bro. Or the Federal Reserve. I mean, come on. I thought about what, what you'd be doing if you were alone. Last few days, I've been like, and how, I guess.

Like, imagine the gathering channel where I open booster packs? But like, it's, it's fun. To me, Maybe it would be like this to talk about... Andy wants to open a... He wants to start a channel. I don't want to give away the name because he likes the name so much. I don't want to say it. Someone will steal it. Very good.

But like geopolit, it's kind of fun to know what's going on in the world. Maybe funds the wrong word, but it's important. And I think a lot. Millions of people identify with that. Like, if we were just goofing off all the time, the real important... Because there's a difference between being famous

and being powerful. Maybe this is how many people know who you are. Powerful is how many people are listening to you. Most of the powerful people don't, people don't know who they are. That's the difference. And it ripples out to the... the format to just doing fart jokes,

the Deep State won't want to kill me anymore. Which is a great subversive tactic. To just talk about fart jokes? And then plan like the next 30 years of social... I mean, there's a lot of Taylor Swift news all the time. You know, a Blake lively scandal still going on. We could talk about that. Is that still going on?

Yeah. I saw something on Instagram. Oh, boy. Yeah. Did you guys hear about that show? They launched this year called Dying for Sex? No. What is it? It makes me terrified of women.

Just to hide from them. That's a clip for you. You're hard with the only one, brother. It's a show about a woman who finds out she's got terminal cancer, so she leaves her husband to go have sex with 200 men. Oh, that's real. I saw that. I saw that.

That's disgusting. My God, man. Did she do it before she died? Yes. She went around just banging a bunch of dudes, I guess. I don't know. And I'm just like, man, that poor guy. Could you imagine, like, your wife is like, I'm going to die,

so I'm going to leave you to go bang them to dudes and be like, that's the worst thing I've ever heard. By the way, your dying wish to get fucked by 200 dudes. The state of society right now, where a woman who has, a few months left to live, doesn't want to spend it with her husband, doesn't want to spend her with her family, she just wants to whore around. It's disgusting. Feminism is cancer. Spoke to what you always wanted to do.

Like, drama crap is another poison pill. Like, talking about what they're talking about is like, God, can we just make something new that other people start talking about? To be fair, I don't think that most women would be interested in something like that. Is that a crazy thought? Well, I'm from Miami, so, you know. You know what, bitches there are different. Yeah, definitely are.

What? Think about the kind of shows that women watch that you can see the data on. It's not the function of govern. It's really, really funny. Like, feminism is the stupidest thing ever. Yeah, there's a clip for you. All the feminists are going to get mad. It's just so stupid because you look at media, the media landscape,

and shows like this are 80% guys. Like, our audience is literally like 80. It's like 78% man and like 21 point something women. And then unknown is like a tiny number. You go and look at the shows that women watch. and it's murder. That's freaky. Stories about women leaving their husbands

to go bang a bunch of dudes. Married to strangers. Do you guys ever see those shows? Married at first sight or whatever they're called? And it's like drama, dating, relationships. There's a funny joke that's comedian. I forget his name, so forgive me for not giving you credit, but it's a really great joke.

And he said that he had some buddies that he hadn't seen in a long time. They were in town, and they were going to go hang out, play around a golf. And he comes, I guess he was saying like, yeah, you know, like, you know, Jim got divorced or something, and we haven't seen him in a long time. He comes back, and his wife was like, so how was it? He was like, oh, it was great. She's like, well, how's Jim doing? And he's like, okay, I guess. And then she's like, okay, but like, what about

his divorce? And he's like, I don't know. And she's like, you guys didn't talk about it. And he goes, didn't come up. She's like, what are you doing? How are you? So to women, it's like, the guys go and hang out and literally don't talk about relationships. Dude, I went to hang out my buddy, Bryce, shout out, and then we played Fallout for like two days straight. And then I went home, and my mom was like, so what's he, where's he working nowadays? I'm like, I have no idea. Is he in a relationship? I don't think so.

I'd have doubt it. The interesting thing is, like, when I was growing up, there was pretty much no real big female voices because there was no internet back then, at least at this point, there was only radio. And the reason women are so big now and they weren't on a radio is because they're using their looks. when it came to radio, they couldn't use their looks to exploit anything. So if you want to eliminate women off the internet when it comes to their influence, all you got to do is eliminate filters. But that doesn't... You get rid of filters.

That doesn't explain Oprah Winfrey, and she was like the first real gigantic name amongst women. Yeah, they wanted to make a black woman famous back then. We're relaunching the show, and we're going to talk about just relationships, and so we'll just spend every day talking about Ian's adventures and dating. Yeah, I'm the single guy needs to find a watch. Everybody helps me. And then what will happen is we might lose our male audience, but we'll get a massive female audience.

You want to meet women? They don't spend more time outside of it. So it doesn't matter. It's like irrelevant. Yeah. Go to public places, meet people, talk to people. You have to do that kind of stuff. Sitting at home doesn't help.

I feel like Shane has been quiet. And I'm curious your thoughts on, not just to say like, hey, everything that's going we're talking about, but just like where we're going. I just feel compelled to say rejoice in the Lord always. Again, I will say rejoice. Let your gentleness be known to all men. the Lord is at hand, be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication with

Thanksgiving. Let your requests be made known to God and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, and will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus. I asked Raymond G. Stanley last night, what's the best future? And he said, Christ. Pray. That was his response. Christ is the only future. You pray. It's like, you pray and then you meditate, and that stillness allows God to rebalance to form with your prayer. You need to pray every day. All day. All day. every day. I think personally, and again, I'm not trying to offend anyone, but I think anyone who

thinks they have a relationship with God has an extremely huge ego. I think we're all, I think we're all aspects of sand, the real prime creator. And the only time he's going to deal with us is when we pass on to the next lifetime, then he judges us. We all will be judged. I don't see any point of the worship or any of the subject. I will say then submit yourselves to therefore to God, resist the devil, and he will flee from you, James 4-7. I mean, listen, I'm not... I will say then, and give no opportunity to the devil. Ephesians 427.

Oh, I mean, listen, you can read a book that's 2,000 years old. I will say whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil, and for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil. One John three years. Brother, for 2,000 years, people thought Jesus was coming back and he still isn't there. So what does that make all those people who died waiting for him? I will say, behold, I have given you authority to tread on serpents and scorpions and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall hurt you.

He hold a pale horse. Was there a date given for when that was going to happen? I mean, they keep saying he's coming back. So, I mean, like, we've had billions. I thought that wasn't until, like, the Red Heffre thing happened. I think it's the Internet that's going to make it happen. And it's going to be the Christ-likeness is what Jesus is, is the people embodying Christ.

I think it's going to be Project Bluebeam. That's what I think. There's going to be a critical mass of people that embody Christ-like behavior, and then it's going to pulse out, and all these people are going to start acting like it. I thought that there were only a few people or a small group of people that were going to be chosen and saved. I think the story says there's one guy is going to appear, but I think it's when there's a critical mass of humans, that's when you really see a change.

Because one guy can come and go. Did you read that in the Bible? No, man, I just feel like it. Yeah. I just feel it, maybe. No, it's actually logical. It would be impossible. A flash in the pan.

A guy comes, he gets super famous, and then he dies. You'll be made a martyr. They'll use him to sell products. Who's the Antigrist? anyone can become that anyone that acts sinful that no no that is not biblicalian but i mean anybody with a lot of wealth that's super famous and loved that decides to become sinful then becomes the anti-christ do i don't think so no no when's the messiah coming for you guys we want mishche now is what you say our messiah didn't come back yet so like what's supposed to happen

it's like the red heifer right um i don't i need to look into it oh you don't know he's only jewish He's born in, blood in, blood out. The antichrist is human behavior right now in 2025, where instead of moms and dads, you have baby mamas. That's the antichrist right there, the damn culture we're in right now. What does the numerology say about next year? Next year is 2006, the year of the horse, and people who are born in horse years are going to dominate.

Next year, I expect Myron Gaines to be one of the top guys next year. Really? 100%. What does that mean, top guys? Do you think he's going to be like, well, didn't Kamala Harris blame him? him for losing? That's going to be a big help right there. And it's the midterm. So I wonder this is, it's going to be interesting.

They could be like playing off of what Kamala said, using him as a, oh, look what the right is, you know, but the reason why I don't think so is because he's black. Well, I mean, listen, we live in the day and age where that goes both ways. Black people can actually say certain things

that you can't. You say some things, Myron says you're probably going to get canceled. He won't because he has a shield. It goes both. It goes it goes both ways. It goes both ways. White people can say certain things. Black people can say certain things, and women can say anything they want with no accountability. What are things that white people can say that black people can't say? Daddy.

Oh. That was dark. Gary, you said it was the year of the horse next year? Yes. What are other years of the horse in the last 50 years? 2014, 2002, 1990. So, for instance, some of the things I expect to expect more deflation to come next year. I expect Bitcoin.

Deflation? Deflation? Deflation, correct. I expect deflation income. I expect oil prices to fall, and I do expect Bitcoin and a lot of cryptocurrency to crash. Why is that? Because OPEC was founded in the rat year. The enemy of the rat is the horse. Next year is the horse year. So I expect oil prices to fall. When it comes down to Bitcoin, this is the best example I can give. Bitcoin was founded January 3rd, 2009. That is a rat currency. the worst year for Bitcoin was 2014 where it fell around 92%. That was the year the horse.

The horse year comes once every 12 years. Next one's 2006. Bye-bye crypto. When you say deflation, you're talking about deflation in the value of the dollar? Deflation in everything except food prices. Is it 2014? Yes, 2014 was the year of course.

When was the last time there was deflation? Because deflation Yeah, I mean deflation can like lead to a deflationary spiral where nobody spends because the value of their dollar keeps going up. Yeah, I understand what deflation is, and I'm telling people that I think the property markets are going to go down,

the housing market's going to go down next year, and I do expect the big crash for the stock market to be 2027. Okay, but that's not deflation, though. Well, if people, listen, you have AI out here who's taking everyone's jobs. These people have no more income in the streets. What do you think is going to happen?

There's no more money in the streets. But the term deflation means the value of the dollar goes up, right? Inflation means the value of the dollar goes down. I expected the value the dollar to go up, correct? Really? Okay. But why food? Why not food? So hold on, this interesting.

Bitcoin had a 77% drop in 2022. Go to 2000. I call it that one too, but go to 2014. That was the biggest percentage. That was the biggest percentage, so I'm right. Right, but it fell 85%. And then it climbed even higher, and then in 2022, it dropped 77%.

So. I'm expecting. not Bitcoin going down to 40 to 50,000, 30, 20, even below. If you have your money in cryptocurrency, you're cooked next year. Oh, man. What is the- We'll do a side bet. What is the basis for numerology? And that's what you're talking about here when you're connecting.

Yeah, well, numerology and Chinese astrology by far. When I talk about numerology and in Chinese astrology, you have to understand the way I look at the world. I look at this as a virtual reality. I look at this as a simulation. And I look at numerology and astrology to the cheat codes. I actually look at numerology as God code. I believe that is the system that the prime creator gave us to be able to see somewhat into the future,

to be able to make good decisions, know when bad years are coming, no when good years are coming. Because the name of the game is really timing. Why did Napoleon become who he was? Because of timing. Why did Genghis Khan become who he was? because there's plenty of smart people in the world. There's plenty of great leaders in the world. Why would those guys where they were?

Because they did things at the right time. Andrew Tate became world famous in 2022. That's the year of the tiger. The year of the tiger, there you go. What animal was 2019? That was the year of the pig. The pig? The pig is the 12th sign.

You are a tiger. Third sign. One and two is three. So natural friends. I'm not saying that's your best friend, but usually pigs do and tigers do. well together. So 2022 is supposed to be a big year? I mean, look at Tom

Cruz. He's born in 1962 year to Tiger. His hit movie Top Gun came in 1986 the year of the Tiger and then it came all the way back again in 2022, another Tiger year. So Tom Cruise's both his top gun movies came out in his own

year. I have energy at work. I don't mean to come off as facetious, but what makes you believe in numerology? You found some of these coincidences. I mean, I always wanted to know why some of people were good looking. I found out people born on the 5th, 14, 23rd are the good looking ones, the models. I always wanted to know

why some people... Am I good looking? I mean, I don't judge guys. Based on what I was born regardless, right? So... Hold on. Maybe you should ask Milo, like, you know, Friday. I don't do that stuff. You know, I don't judge guys. Okay. Man, I was saying, you know people are handsome, the guys are handsome. Let me just say this. Let me say this.

I can prove some things like, for instance, 28th's number of wealth. Okay? So, Elon Musk is born on 28th. Bill Gates is born in a As a matter of fact, if you look up Carlos Saleem, five of the richest 25 guys. Why is it that's the number of wealth? I'm sure I could find a bunch of people who are poor. Why? Why?

Because that's the energy that represents wealth. Why? Because eight. Are you basically just looking at rich people and been like one of the state there for? So for instance, let's look at what the Chinese did. There's eight and there's 28. Those are the two wealth numbers. The Chinese started Olympic Games on 8-8-2008 at exactly 808 p.m.

They went from the 15th biggest economy in the world to the second in the few. in a few years. So obviously you have people in positions of power who are using this stuff and other people are reading the Bible and the Quran. I think you're just trying to go a coincidence. Do you think, do you think they believe it's a coincidence? No. Okay, so the Chinese Okay, so the Chinese, President Xi, he's born in the year of the snake, he came to the power in 2013, the year to snake. Vladimir Putin born in the year of the dragon and he became President of Russia in 2000 the year the dragon.

So when people go based off their energy, I mean, you are a nine life path. Nines are the most adaptive people in the world. I'm sure you have adapted to many things. There's always an answer, isn't there? Always. That's what I do. I mean, obviously, you have a comment for everything too.

When did this happen? When did you start? 9-11. Okay. 9-11. So when I looked at 9-11... 9-11 equals 20. I'll get there in a second.

When I looked at 9-11, I woke up and I'm like, damn. A whole bunch of people died. It went out, smoked one for all the, you know, victims, families and stuff like that. And I came inside, and I saw a second plane hit, and I'm like, wait a second. The Twin Towers look like an 11. The first plane that hit the World Trade Center is Flight 11.

I mean, the police code for emergency is 9-11, started digging a little bit more. New York City 11 letters. Afghanistan 11 letters. Shanksville 11 letters. I'm like, oh, the Pentagon 11 letters. I'm like, oh, the Pentagon. The Pentagon 11 letters. So I started looking

all this, I'm like, wait a second, what's going on here? This is too much to be a coincidence. And then I looked at al-Qaeda. Al-Qaeda was founded on the 11th. The first, they had three major terrorist attacks, Akkad is no more. Because there's only 30-1 days. They were founded on the 11th.

They hit Madrid, Spain on March 11th. They hit Mumbai, India, on July 11th. And they hit America on 9-11. The chances of all those attacks happening on 11th and al-Qaeda being found in 11th, we're talking about in the- No, it's not. They would just be like, we're going to do it on the 11 because we like the number.

No, they actually know something about numerology, and that's why they did uncertain things. I mean, for sure. But you said the Muslims, you said they don't believe in the number system, the Muslims. Well, the poor ones don't. Okay. According to the Quran, though, they don't. Oh, I mean, listen, they say divination is bad. They say the same thing in the Bible.

Divination's bad, right? Well, if divination is so bad, stop paying attention to the Weather Channel. Okay, seriously. Stop paying attention to the Weather Channel if divination is bad. Here's the point. I'm not God. I'm nothing compared to God, including everyone in this room. Agreed?

None of us are gods in here. Correct. So God knows everything when it comes down to. What's going to happen when you're born, you're going to die? We'll never get to that level. But we can use the numerology and astrology to help guide us on the right path. What does it have to do with the weather? Like, we could predict the weather based on patterns of what we see in the sky.

That's divination. How does astrology work? Like you've done a lot of numerology, numerology, but what's the astrology? Okay. Well, there's basically 12 signs. The first one is rat and it's enemy with the horse. Oh, you mean Chinese Zodiac? That's what I focus on that one because that's the most accurate to me.

I don't do the woman. You think astrology is gay? That's not astrology. That's Chinese Zodiac. Chinese Zodiac. I don't do the Libra Capricorn. I think it has some relative value, but I leave that for the women. When it comes down to the Chinese astrology, it's extremely accurate.

I'll give you an example. Rat, the year the rat and the year the horse are enemies. Shack was a rat. Kobe was a horse. of each other. Little things like that go a long way in making people understand how this works. Lehman Brothers. Lehman Brothers was found in the horse year collapsed in 2008, the year of the rat. Again, enemy signs at work. Next one, enemy signed the goat and the ox. So Hitler is the best example I can give people. Hitler was born 1889, the year of the ox. And when did he start losing

World War II? 1943. He lost Stalingrad. He lost cursed. War was over. and guess what? That was his enemy year. Now let's go to Saddam Hussein. Another guy who's born in the year of the ox. He's born in 1937. The year the goat is his enemy. What happened? First Gulf War in 1991.

Second Gulf War 2003, we took him out. Again, both those were goat years. So if you start looking at this stuff from a pattern recognition standpoint, you'll see certain consistencies there. I think if you look for certain trends that you can find the ones that you want to find, with the examples that you want to find,

want to find given the rich history that we have on this planet? Well, the thing about it is when you look at history, it will tell you, I'm not making this stuff up. I'm just looking at pattern recognition. I think if people want to find a pattern, they'll find a pattern. If you're motivated to find a pattern, we're humans and you're going to find that pattern. If you start with the conclusion, then you'll find your way to that conclusion. That's what you believe. And I would say that you probably haven't looked into numerology and astrology long enough. And if you're around me for about 24 hours, you'll start seeing it yourself. I will point it out.

You named like Tom Cruise, Xi Jinping, people who were born in the year and then rose to power in those years? Correct. Here's Lady Gaga, Drake, Megan Fox, Usain Bolt, Lizzie Lohan are tigers, but they were all came to prominence in non-tiger years. Lady Gaga in a dragon rat year, Drake in an ox and tiger year, Usain Bolt, in a rat and ox year. There's no match. Then you have dragons, Rihanna, Adele, Emma Stone, Rupert Grint. Rihanna and Adele exploded into pig, ox, tiger.

Dragon year was too early for a dragon year. And in 2012, they were already famous. Of the monkeys, you've got Selena Gomez, Miley Cyrus, Demi Lovato, and Cardi B. All became famous in pig and rooster years. And then among rat years, you have Scott Johansson, Katie Perry, Mark Zuckerberg, LeBron James, and their breakthroughs were in sheep to tiger years. When was Facebook founded? 2005?

No. What was Facebook was founded? Go ahead. Look up. I want to make sure I'm ready. Can you respond? Yeah, I can't. Facebook was founded in 2004.

What is that to do with what I just pointed out? When did its stock have a major crash? What? 2002. And? That was its enemy year. So let's go through the list this year. Most stocks crashed in 2020.

I just listed a bunch of celebrities that didn't rise to prominence in the same year as they were born and you ignored the question. I didn't ignore anything. If you want me to go into single detail about everyone's life, pick one. Let's go through the details. Lady Gaga. Okay, she's born March 28th, I believe. I don't know. She was born 1986.

What? In 1986, you're the tiger. You're the tiger. Okay. And she became famous in the dragon year. Okay. So, again, the numerology does supersede the astrology, but the astrology does work. She's born.

I'll give you an example. I'll give you an example of how this works. 86. March 28, 86. I'll give an example how this works. America is a monkey nation. Whoa, whoa. America's founded 17.

America's founded 17. America's founded 17. 1776 the Year of the Monkey. People who are tigers, they usually have a lot of issues with getting banned or, you know, being one of those guys who are on government watch lists and things like that.

So let's go through four of the most banned people in the internet. You tell me if you agree. Alex Jones. Andrew Tate. Nick Flentes. He'll say, he's the smallest name there. But those all are tigers, and they all got banned in a monkey nation.

What I'm basically trying to tell you is this stuff works if you look into it. Laura Lumer is extremely banned. I don't know. Was she born in the year of the... She is born in 1993, the year of the rooster. And she doesn't play well with others. So it is what it is. I kind of subscribe to the magnetic universe theory.

A lot of scientists talk of Thunderbolts Project and that we are connected through some sort of force. Weather planets in the position of the planet when the radiation is passing through it that causes a refraction through our planet and our bodies as our babies are coming out of the womb no longer protected by the radiation protection of the mother's stomach and they're exposed to this radiation for the first time that it might have something to do with the numbers that we've derived from the position of things. No, I get it. Listen, I like to talk about people who are up here so people can see this stuff with their own eyes. Who basically started the podcast game? Joe Rogan? Joe Rogan?

Joe Rogan. But then Joe Rogan is born. No. Tom Green. Tom Green. Yeah, Tom Green did. Could we say that Alex Jones had a big part of it? No.

It's fair to say Rogan. We'll say, Rogan's not. Tom Green really started. Tom Green inspired Rogan. Joe Rogan didn't get on Apple podcast, Apple podcast was already made. Tom Green started doing, it was Joe Rogan on Tom Green, right? That was the big story.

And before him, it was Adam, what's his face? Curry, yeah. Who coined the term podcast. Yeah, well, it was an Apple thing because it was the iPod. Right. And it was, instead of having a song, you'd have an MP3 of a conversation on your iPod. And then people could listen to shows by downloading. Alex Jones, born on the 11th, very charismatic guy.

Joe Rogan, born on the 11th. Again, very charismatic guy. Hulk Hogan born on 11th. We live on the planet with millions. Hold on. Let me finish. Let me finish. What you have to understand is people born on certain dates are going to have certain abilities.

And people who are born on. on 11th have a hell of a lot of charisma and that's why Joe Rogan's number one because he's born on the 11th Candace Owens I know you don't like her but she's born on 29th 219 is 11th that's 11th that's where she gets that mouthpiece from it is what it is I'm telling you what it is so people with certain numbers are going to see that aided Ross I don't think much of him but he's born on 11th and a lot of people give him a lot of credit for doing the 11 are you paying are you pagan no okay this I believe in a crime creator what a prime creator what you would call God

Very supernatural and pagan. I mean, listen, again, I explain. I believe this is basically a virtual reality. And in this virtual reality, numerology, neutrology is Cheekos. I'll give you one more example, and you guys can tear me apart if you want to. But let's go to... You never answer to the celebrities I listed who weren't born in those years. I just said numerology supersedes astrology.

So if the answer isn't within astrology, you have to start looking at their numerology. That sounds like what you're saying is if it doesn't fit your explanation, you'll... I'm sure that's what it sounds like. But when you actually look into that information, you'll see that it's actually relevant. I'll give you one more. Apple. Apple was founded by Steve Jobs. Steve Jobs was born 224-1955.

224-1955 adds up to 28. He started Apple on 4-1-1976, 4-1-1976 adds up to 28. He incorporated Apple on January 3rd, 1977, 131977 adds up to 28. So what we have there is someone who is one of the top guys who was ever in Techfield was using numerology because he went to India. He learned it and then he incorporated Apple and it became the richest cash rich company in the world. And by the way, Steve Cook's another 28 and he took over his job. So what I'm basically trying to tell you is this might sound like nonsense to you, just like the Bible and the Quran sounds like nonsense to me and a lot of people. But you have to understand.

I am looking at this from a logical standpoint. When you see something that keeps coming up over and over and over, at some point it has to stop being a coincidence. But if I make a prediction, were you able to look at that prediction and then say, oh, that's false because of this and then come up with another way to change that specific thing? You have to be able to falsify someone using the system incorrectly, correct? Well, here's the thing. You're not just using the right system or not using the right way. I'll tell you how I grew up. Let me just finish this.

In 2002, after 9-11, I started looking at all the numerology books. I'm like, this is crap. None of this stuff works. And then I started talking to all the top numerologists in the field. And I realized one thing about them, they were all broke. And I'm thinking if these guys were so good at what they did, why they broke. Well, here's the thing.

I'm a multi-millionaire many times over. And at the end of the day, people who are in a Saudi royal family, they come to me when they want to have a wedding. They want to have the right day. I talk to the very, very top of the food chain. And that's why if you actually need security and you're willing to go down to Miami, I promise you you'll be taken care of. No, not Miami. You said when we met Gary about an hour and two hours ago, you were like right on about what my life has been like in a lot of ways.

I wonder if you were just looking in my eyes and you could tell things about my feelings by looking at me. Yeah, it's called cold reading. Is that part of numerology? No. But there are mentalists who can do it. There are a mentalist who can do it. You wear your personality on your face too, Ian. You look like an end.

Life change. I mean, a lot of people, there's this thing called this eternal return, Saturn returns every 27, when someone... 28 and a half years. 28 and a half is like the most profound year of your life for a lot of people. Those three years define what the rest of your life is going to be like. I've heard many times. There is a lot of truth to that. Shane, you sound awfully quiet over there.

As our residents outside of the box thinker, what do you think of numerology? I think, be sober-minded, be watchful, your adversary. The devil prowls around like a roaring lion. seeking someone to devour, resist him, firm in your faith, knowing that the same kinds of suffering are being experienced by your brotherhood throughout the world. Shane's one Peter 589. Shane has wrapped himself in the armor of the Lord tonight.

That sounded nice. That's legit. I don't know which phrase or which passage it is, but is it. I mean, we have a whole bunch of people question numerology, but they are willing to believe the Bible and Quran with no evidence. So it is what it is. I think half of the people here are, wouldn't even consider it. consider themselves Christian. Like, I don't think that's true.

When I was 28, I was working at Fusion and that did not define my life. That was like a wasted two years. What about, oh, not really? That was like the springboard to the next. No, it wasn't. ABC? That was ABC? Yeah, where I did nothing for two years, there's no springboard, dude. It's going to tell you about it is. I mean, you were sort of making shit loads of money in those years.

No, I already made money. You said you doubled trip two and a half times your salary in that age? I think going from like 100 and something to like 250 was a standard promotion, but it didn't defined my life. It didn't set me on a path. I don't think it... It actually, for two years, I did little. And the only real argument was that I worked a job where I saved money. This is... Well, I think the human brain gets developed at age 25, so I think that's why a lot of people

have profound transitions. My life doesn't fit any of these numbers. Well, I'll tell you what. Anyone who thinks I'm a fraud, and I'm sure there's a whole bunch of them, I can put up $100,000. We can go up to random people. I'll be blindfolded, and I'll do exactly what I did to you. Read them like a book. I only have to look at their face. And if I'm wrong, I'll pay you guys. If I'm right, pay me.

Wait, so what is your contention? Hold on. Wrong about what? I mean, let's bring 100 random people, 50, whatever you want. I'll be blindfolded, and I'll just give them a reading based off their birthday. They say, I'm right and I'm right. What does that mean? A reading.

Like, what do you ask them? I'm not going to ask them anything except their birthday. And then they can go into their life and they'll tell me if I'm right or wrong. Like I gave him. What's your birthday? Do I tell you first? Do I don't, I'm not psychic, bro. sound like it. September 22nd, 93? You're a eight life path, which means your money is either

here or here. It's never in the middle. You're never going to be middle class. Either you're going to go up or you're going to go down. So what you have to understand is eight has two circles around it. The middle represents middle class. That's why it's very thin. So you either going to be poor or rich, never in the middle. You're also very carmic. You do bad things. They come right back to you very, very quickly. You have an aggressive personality. 2003, you probably had some setbacks in life. You should had a good year this year. But one of your main things in life is you're good at building up other people. That is one of your main gifts.

I think you've just been describing the person you've seen in front of you during... Well, you could think that, but you could put a blindfold in front of me, and I'd say the same goddamn thing without seeing you without ever talking to you. You do, Bill. You do say how young I look a lot. Elad. I hear a voice. There's someone talking to me.

They care deeply about you. I didn't do that. They're telling me... Tell a lot not to worry about the money. Does that mean anything to you a lot? Are you worried about money? I am worried about money. Wow.

That sounds right. I wasn't doing that. I actually thought that... No, I wasn't. I thought the voice was telling you to go to Superchats. I love the... I love reading horoscopes because it's like they describe everyone all the time. They're so vague.

I'm just glad it wasn't like you're fired. Bro, I had a setback literally every single year always. The numbers? More than others, brother. I think the thing... It's like premature to say it's fake. Because what you're doing could very well be cracking the code. of like cymatic reality.

Symatic. There's a frequency that can be measured with numbers that are producing shape of reality. All right, well, we're going to go to your Rumble Rants in Super Chat, so smash the like button, share the show with everyone you know if you do like what we do and appreciate our work. Maybe the penthouse idea is a good idea.

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And that's why I'm saying, I'm not the first person to be critical of Candace Owens. Certainly not. But I guess I am the subject of her episode today. So there you go. Would you ever go one-on-one with her? Sure. She's like, have a conversation with her about stuff. So you do a podcast with her?

Yeah, she's been on the show before. Not in the current. Right, right, right. The issue is, you see what she did with Turning Point, where she was like, name the time and place and I'll be there. And they went, okay, the 15th at noon. I can't be there. They did that on purpose so that they knew I wouldn't come.

And it's like, what? Like Nick Flentes. I learned this from a Nick Fentz clip of all places where he's like, she said, name the time and place and I'll be there. And then when they did, she was like, you never consulted with me. I can't do that. And it's like, what? I'd be more than happy to try to set it up if you like me to. Yeah.

I mean, we'll see how it goes. I'll talk to my booking people. And then I guess the question is, what's, is the conversation? literally just this with her in person? I mean, I think you find out when you get in the room together, but I do know this. It will probably be one of the most viral podcasts of 2025. Not that you care.

No, I just think it's crazy that, you know, the one clip she posted that was a fake clip was Elad saying, you said something like, I think she respects her show and she'll comment on it. I was like, no, like, her show's always been bigger than mine. I don't know, whatever. But a fair point. I got millions of followers on X, so certainly that's going to matter.

but yeah whatever I mean I have a conversation with anybody I just I think that she is a sophist and a manipulator and she's doing a true crime drama show so it's just like I can't I can't say no to that but I kind of roll my eyes like oh you know

more drama more true crime more nonsense at the end of the day the people decided that you're one of the top guys in the field and she is too so maybe it'll be good training to handle like an eight year old daughter but you just learn to gently have a conversation with a female that you've got some agitation with and then you'll help your kids with that

when they freak out when they're eight and they drop their fork on the ground and you'll be like, I know how to talk to you. I like how her own lawyers work in a federal building and none of her audience questioned it. They're fine with it. She says a bunch of fake things like she's saying today on her show that I think I own my audience.

You know what's really weird? You notice how she refers to herself in the plural? She says we and us for everything. She never says I. Like that, like, come on, you know. She tweets at me and she's like, tell us, Tim, and I'm like, us, who's us? And on her show, she's saying, we don't blah, blah, blah, and we don't do the, we don't care about your midter. I'm like, who's we?

But I guess there's a lot of people who really like that. They feel like they're a part of something when she refers to her and them as one group, you know? Yeah, it's risky. I got one more thing to add before I go. Just want to say humble yourselves, therefore under the mighty hand of God so that at the proper time, he may exalt you and I'm praying for you. Please don't pray because when you pray, you become pray. Despite that, I will pray for you, sir. Thank you very much.

I'll see you all later. I do not accept your prayers, but thank you. Shane Cashman heading to Tales from the Inverited World at 10 p.m. Eastern Standard Time coming up right after this show. I get so much pushback with the numerology and astrology, but it doesn't seem like anyone wants to push back on a religion. You don't sound, you don't sound half as ridiculous as he does. Well, but here's the thing. I'm not a Christian, and we've had tons of debates with Christians. And there's no reason for me to debate Christianity.

which we've done 1,700 times. Oh, I get it. I've never had a numerologist on. Oh, 100%. But what I'm basically trying to tell you is I can prove more with numbers based off mathematics than anyone can with religion. I think they do totally different things, though. Yeah, one's real, one's fake.

100%. It's like a moral basis. People get their moral basis from religion often. I don't. And I don't think you can get a moral basis from numerology unless I'm missing something here. Well, I mean, listen, numerology supports the family unit. One is male energy. Two is female energy.

three is kid energy, childlike energy. One plus two plus three equals six. Six is the number of family. Oh, he's not there. It's there. Hold on, hold on. I, Alad.

Did you ever hear about that? What's that thing where, like, Jews use numbers that are worse? They do. Abala. Oh. Yeah, that's the cymatics I'm talking about. What's that about, Elad? I'm surprised you don't use Kabbalah instead of the Chinese stuff.

Chinese stuff seems a little bit. Jamantria. I mean, it's all the same. Literology. No, but I mean, I guess the difference for religion is like, for example, there's the Ten Commandments, and you're supposed to do that to abide by God's laws. And they're real life applications for those commandments as opposed to one is the father. I get you.

I get you. But I'm sorry, I don't need the Bible to tell me not to cheat on my wife. I don't need a Quran to tell me I shouldn't steal a murder. Okay, I can figure that out all my own. I would, why shouldn't you? I would, because there's something called morality. I would make, I would make the argument. My morality is based off being a Jewish man who married a Muslim woman,

who doesn't give a damn about any of this nonsense. and I know my numbers are real because it's going to change. Let me tell you how the world's going to end. Let me tell you how the world's going to end, okay? Your morality is based on your morality is based on Christianity. No, my morality is based off having a wife and a husband and kids. If you were raised.

If a wife had a husband, if you were raised in, if you were raised in Central America, like when the Aztecs were. And you were in Saudi Arabia, you'd be a muscle. Okay, what's the point? The point that I, well, let me finish. I'll go ahead and I'll get there. If you were raised there and it was said, it's okay and it's actually good to sacrifice people, you would think that it's good to sacrifice people.

You are a product of the society that you've grown up in. I'm a product of a society where in 2004 Muslims were being demonized and I married one. I don't give a damn what society thinks. I don't. You can marry whoever you want. And there was plenty of people that were saying that we should not demonize Muslims in 2004. it. So it's not like you were like the only guy that was saying. Not that many.

But the idea that human beings create their own morality when their moral structure is entirely similar to Christianity or in some cases, Judaism. It's not true. We got to read more. Can I finish one more time? I just want to say this. I'm never going to be a Christian. But I do recognize that America is a Christian nation.

and because I'm an American, I will fight for Christian values. I will give you guys that. Griffilicious says, keep calling Candace an effing C-word. I'm toning it down now. And I will increase my Timcast membership for more of this. Well, you know. James of the politics says Timcast are almost at end. If I all stops and the leftists win, what is the point of relocating?

It seems that said new location will be figured out. Actually, a really great point, Penthouse. If we relocate to a penthouse, then. And we don't, like, no one's going to be shooting up our studio. Dude, or office building. Well, there's different type of buildings. You need one with a lot of security. There's something called the Porsche Tower.

There's the Muse building and sunny house. Throughout New York City, there are a lot of office buildings that are extremely secure. There are a lot of billionaires and multimillionaires in New York City that are under a ton of threat. I'm not going to wait around for Zoranam Dani to show up and take all my stuff from me. No income tax in Florida. Yeah. And people walk around with AKs too. Yeah, we're talking about.

about the first week back after the holiday is going to be in Florida as we reassess how to handle the security issue because, you know, I'll just give a little bit more details, but I'm talking obviously with a Rumble crew and we're like, how do we make this work? Because it's not just me who's getting threats or, you know, shots fired at our studio. Most conservatives just don't ever talk about this stuff because you're constantly told it'll make things worse. And so there's been a lot going on behind the scenes. There are prominent personalities, privately talking about retiring early, quitting. And it's getting crazy.

I don't think... Let me put it like this for everybody. You've heard the stories. You've seen Charlie Kirk die. It's or be murdered, I should say. And you've heard the stories about the political violence, things that have happened to people like Andy know, they tried to kill him.

Actually now imagine, you know, where you are in your home, that someone is aiming a weapon at you and your family. like how do you feel? What do you think? It's one thing to be watching these shows and being like, man, things are getting crazy. But for the people that are all in the line of fire, privately behind the scenes,

they're talking about getting out of the business. Straight up. And you can see it. I'm not going to call anybody out, but just notice, keep an eye out for studios that change, even a little bit. And that's usually indicative of they're in Hayden.

They move, like a lot of these personalities are doing solo shows. We don't do a solo show, so we have people coming and going all the time. so we can't do it the way we're doing it now because it's just gotten so crazy. So the conversation we're having is we need to have, yeah, office building. I think a penthouse is better because then you're on top of the building. Whereas the office building itself can be targeted,

the top of the building is much harder to target depending on the height of the building. I don't know about $10 million, though, but... It's worth it. Well, maybe if someone else buys it and we use it, I don't know. I don't got $10,000. When are you going to be down in Miami? me? Never. Listen, brother.

Come to Sunny Ows. I'll introduce you a couple billionaires. They'll help you out with this current security situation. I don't want to take any money from billionaires. You don't need to take any money from anyone. They're just going to tell you about the security situation. Yeah. I mean, we're happy to do it. I hope this doesn't come across is the wrong way.

But like, do you have any thought process about how these people are trying to terrorize you and are effective in doing it? The question is that the terror isn't even like the most relevant. The question is, what is the purpose of what we do? What is the outcome and where will we end up? And I'm looking at right-wing grifters, shilling for big soda and snap benefits, praising India and other foreign countries for money, promoting foreign gambling sites. This is the movement. Then you've got the likes of Candace and her crack pottery. And I'm just sitting here being like, it's one thing when there's a coalition leading a charge saying, we will make this place better for the children to come. It's another thing when it's a bunch of people hiding knives behind their backs ready to just stab each other. And I'm just like, I'm not sticking my neck out for y'all.

And I don't want to say that literally every single person on the right or disfected liberals or moderates or whatever are backstabbing disloyal mutineers or anything like that. But way too many are exposing themselves solely being interested in being famous and making money. And it's like, bro, go play video games. Go play slot machines. You'll get way more viewers and have way more fun. get out of the political space. For the time being, when you look at these prominent personalities,

and I love this, how Nick's pointing out, that, you know, Ian Carroll said, Nick, we're all here, where are you?

And it's just like, there is this large court of people who are just saying insane things all the time, and it works. You know, at least, you know, it's funny,

with QAnon, this energy went towards Trump must win. And I think that's why Trump liked QAnon, because he was asked to criticize it and he didn't really, he didn't really want to do it. because you have this network of people believing crazy conspiracies, but it was for getting Trump elected.

I'm not a fan of that kind of manipulation regardless, but now it's to help Trump or help Democrats win and to make Trump lose. So QAnon was never good, in my opinion, and it was weird. And I think deceiving people for political power is always wrong. And now we have people on the right more likely to engage in that. And that is wrong. And I don't want to be party whatever that movement is. I don't want to help these people.

So you leave the space, the one guy who actually has to keep the real sound? I do my morning show. I just don't do guests anymore. We do the morning show the way I used to do it. We can figure out what IRL can be. It's a big channel, and 2.6 million subs. I mean, you don't just walk away and abandon everyone who's waiting to watch something, but we can't do it in this iteration.

So there are some options. Going to a secure facility, office building, or penthouse or something like that. That seems like a pretty good idea, actually. So I appreciate that. And we'll have that, we're having that meeting when we go down to Florida. And we're going to be doing the show there for the week to figure out how do we do a show in a way where it alleviates these security issues. The challenging thing is someone did have a chat where they were like, and what happens when you leave the building? And it's like, right.

But some of these buildings have secure loading ducts where the vehicle pulls in the back, there's guards, you get in the car, and then the vehicle leaves. So people still might know where your building is, but they can't shoot. up to the top of the building, and they can't get into the building where the car pulls in to pick you up. So there are solutions. And the crazy thing is, I don't even feel like I'm the biggest target, which is the crazy thing. Certainly there are many people who are way, you know, Trump himself, you know what I mean? But the fact- Secret Service, you don't. Yeah, and they still shot him in the head, which is the scary thing about how we actually navigate this. So let's grab. We've got a few minutes. We've got to grab

some of these chats. We've got a lot of chats. Doc Holliday says, yes, Tim. Tim, 100, 100, 100. 100. Yeah, you know, Farrell Cody Campbell says, Fia, Tim, call this ish out. It's time we stand up and rise against this hate. They shall not effing win. Doc Holliday, Tim's spitting facts. Spitting facts, he corrected himself and gave an extra $2 in order to do it.

Thank you. Nice job. All right, let's see. Mikhail Moby says, Tim, reported crimes are public record, such as shots fired. We live in a world with AI and nerds. You really shouldn't announce these events. People can map the timing with public.

records. They sure can. And when someone figures out where we are and shoots fire shots anyway, the idea is kind of like we are past that line already. So I do understand and I respect the point you're trying to make. The issue is it would be weird if we were just like, this is the end of the show, thank you, and have a nice day. We're not going to say anything else. It's another thing to be like, it's about time that people started explaining what was going on. We were spotted 15 times. And the only reason we can say that is because people watch it affect the show. But when other security issues have happened, we've large. just not talked about it. Crowder, Crowder said that he wished he did, because maybe Charlie would

have taken security a lot more seriously had Crowder been saying what was going on, the attempts to murder him, and, you know, maybe people would have thought they were taking it more seriously. Let's put it like that. Right now, because the left cries about every single thing that happens to them, the general perception that is delivered to the American people is at the right or a bunch of Nazis that are terrorizing and killing the left and the left are a bunch of angels, when in fact it's the inverse and only recently has that changed. So I think it's actually important that we tell people this is happening to us, and it's difficult to proceed. Let's see, we got some big, we're running out of time here.

I'm not your buddy guy says, can we coexist with these people? They not only executed but celebrated what happened to Charlie. It's mainstream, so their political leaders will need to cater to this bloodlust, which brings me back to my question, can we coexist with these people? It's not just these people. Right now, a large portion of the right wants to see turning point burn. So you've got the left celebrating. but elements of the right and the left in agreement that turning point is the true perpetrator,

which is the weird coalition between the turning point, I'm sorry, the Candace Owens and the Young Turks audience, which I find very interesting. All right, what do we have here? What do we have here? Let's see, we've got about time for one more, and there was a big one that I wanted to find. A lot of good ones. You can tell what is a super chat from an iPhone because it's 4999. and you can tell it's Android when it's straight numbers. They do that on purpose

so that they can track that stuff. That's how Google does it. There was a big one. I can't find it. We have a member here. You'll find it. Sterling Wilson says, Serge's face as Ian is eating up numerology is priceless. I'd be interested in a reading of my birthday,

but not going to super chat that info. Ha, ha, ha, ha. My friends. Couldn't afford me. It's time for the uncensored portion of the show, which seems, I guess, I don't know, redundant. But head over to rumble.com

slash TimcastIRL, where we will continue the conversation. You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast. And, well, it's been a wild ride. We're going to have conversations about how we move forward, what we have to do, and how we have to do it. What this means for the show going forward, like I mentioned, will be in Florida. So we're here this week.

Then next week we're in Vegas. It's going to be a lot of fun. we are going to have to take things very, very seriously this week because it's been crazy. But anyway, Gary, do you want to shout anything out? Yeah. I think the biggest problem in the world is feminism. And the 19th Amendment caused more damage than COVID-19 until women's rights are taken away from being able to vote. Nothing's ever going to change.

Good evening, everybody. Thank you guys for tuning in. This was a fascinating episode. And I'm a lot of Liyahu, White House correspondent here at Timcast. Gary, you got a huge YouTube channel. The Numbers guy? What is it? GG3333.

GG333 Academy. GG333 Academy. I mean, I can't even use my real name. Gary, the Numbers guy, because I'll get suspended for a lot of stuff to happen in the COVID era. Well, go check out the override the algorithm. Check out Gary's channel because there's a lot more where this came from. And from my perspective, yes, the culture war is alive. And there is aspects of the world trying to take over the U.S. government and use the power.

But we can also build technologies like plumbing that help everybody. Things like plumbing. We can do this with our roads. We can fix our roads. This will reduce pensions. Roads. What is that? Put grahing in the asphalt.

Very unlibertarian. The consistency and durability of the roads by 50, up to 50%. So roads can last twice as long. It reduces strain on the economy. Little things that we can do to reduce the pressure of the world and society will help alleviate whatever this cultural clash is that will also work. So focus on things you love that can help. lots of people. I don't know if that's stopping crackhead

Candace, but I sure hope so. One step out of time, baby. All right, anyway, I am Phil that remains on Twix. The band is all that arranged. You can check out a couple songs from our new record, Anti-Fragile on Rocksmith now. Rocksmith's available on PC, on mobile and on PlayStation. You can check out

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