Timcast IRL - SHOTS FIRED, Leftists ATTACK Coast Guard & Feds In SHOCK Terror Attack w/ Auron MacIntyre
Episode Date: October 25, 2025Tim, Tate, Kellen, & Charles are joined by Auron MacIntyre to discuss a terror attack in California as a box truck accelerates towards police, Steve Bannon saying Trump will win 2028 election, new foo...tage of the J6 pipe bomber being released, and Democrats supporting illegal immigration in overwhelming numbers in new polling. Download Perplexity’s new AI-web browser, Comet, by heading to https://pplx.ai/timcast and let your browser work for you. Plus, right now when you download Comet - you get a month of Rumble Premium for free! Early Black Friday access! Get up to 50% off Beam with my link https://shopbeam.com/TIMCAST + code TIMCAST (limited time only!). SUPPORT THE SHOW BUY CAST BREW COFFEE NOW - https://castbrew.com/ Join - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLwNTXWEjVd2qIHLcXxQWxA/join Hosts: Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Tate @RealTateBrown (everywhere) Kellen @KellenPDL (everywhere) Charles @Frank_Trueblue (X) Serge @SergeDotCom (everywhere) Guest: Auron MacIntyre @AuronMacintyre (X)
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This morning, in the early hours, a terror attack.
Far leftists were protesting ice in Alameda, California, where the Coast Guard was housing several federal agents.
They were protesting a deployment that was expected to hit the Bay Area, but Trump, after the intervention of many tech billionaires and political individuals, canceled this ice raid.
The protesters remained, and then at some point, and for some reason, we don't yet know why, a U-Haul vehicle was driven by what appears to be a leftist extremist,
and then accelerated high speed in reverse towards law enforcement with weapons aimed
who then unloaded on this vehicle shooting a bystander as well as the driver.
Now, we don't know if the bystander was a protester involved or not,
but we do have videos of all of this.
It is absolutely insane.
Now, if you think that one's crazy, Steve Bannon says Trump's going to get a third term.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more. We have Aaron McIntyre.
Thanks for having again.
Who are you? What do you do?
I host the Orrin McIntyre show. We're at Blaze TV. We're on YouTube, Rumble, all those places.
And, of course, I've also got my book, The Total State.
Right on. We also have a fun panel table. We got Chuck hanging out.
Hey, what's up, guys? How are you guys doing? I'm the host of the Green Room.
If you want to check that out, it's behind the paywall on a Rumble premium.
So sign up. We released the George Santos video yesterday if you want to get a sneak peek of that.
Very cool. Callin's hanging out.
Yeah, I think this is my first appearance on IR.
usually behind the scenes.
But you've been on many times.
Sure, sure. Yeah, as like a panelist, I guess.
I'm usually filling in for Serge
when I have been on in the past.
But hello everybody. My name is Kellan. I work behind the scenes
here at Timcast. We just wrapped an awesome
culture war this morning. Brian Shapiro was sitting in the seat you
were, Oren, and he brought this energy that
makes me really stoked for this cultural
war event we've got coming up. Yeah. And I called him a
retard. And he asked me to take it back.
That's true, dude. He said, please film a video
with me saying I'm not a retard.
Yeah. So make sure you guys check that out and get your tickets to the event coming up on November 8th.
That's right. What's up, guys? Tate Brown here holding it down. I'm really excited about this.
This is going to be a fun show. I love Lauren. So this can be great. And yeah, go watch the George Santos tapes released yesterday on the green room. There's a wild chat in there.
I filled him in on a lot of what he missed out in while he was in jail. He didn't know Diane Keaton died.
Yeah, no, he just found out. He cried? It was pretty emotional. So go watch to see his emotions in full display.
And obviously, for everybody at this point, you understand why Phil's not here.
He just had a baby.
Congratulations to Phil LeBonte.
Lead singer of all that remains, anti-communist and counter-revolutionary.
Shout out, we'll have you back when you're ready.
But in the meantime, let's jump to the first story from Fox KTVU.
Live updates, gunfire rings out at end of Bay Area immigration protest.
Now, the funny thing is, when I first saw this video of, dude, this video is nuts.
Wait until you guys see it.
we got updated video. ABC News has reported shots fired after vehicle driving erratically
attempts to back into Coast Card Base. I believe ABC News intentionally obfuscated the truth about
what really happened because this was, from all available evidence, a leftist terror attack
on a military installation. We've got this video here. Check this, check it out.
For those of listening, the U-Hauls pulling forward.
the person driving is pulling forward they stop now they're going to accelerate
backwards and there's a ton of dudes with guns aimed rifles listen to this
oh you hear the screaming so so when i first watch this video
watch this video. There's a guy going, ah, ah, ah, I'm going to play that again. See if you can hear
what he says, because I can hear what he's saying now.
I got hit, right? I got hit. He said that we got video of it. This is insane. It's not really
graphic, but I'm not going to show the full video because he does display a gunshot wound. It's not,
it's not, it's, so for people, people don't know this. The gunshot wound, it's a small hole in his
chest. There's no blood spilling everywhere. It's just a hole in his chest. So I'll just play
the beginning where you can see it. I won't show the actual footage. You can see the U-Haul
right here. It's about to back up. Look at everybody running in the deck of the doctor.
I got hit
I got hit
Come here, come here, come here
I got hit, oh shit
let me see
I think it was rubber
I don't fucking up
Hop in the car anyways
Let's find a phone
Who did just got to knock it?
Let me see
So he then pulls his shirt
I'm not going to show it
But someone asks him, is it rubber?
Bro, I do these these lorpers need to
they do not get the game they're playing these look at look i'm going to jump back to this video
look at these guys these cops they are not playing around it looks like several several of them have
long guns and some with handguns they were prepared to kill the person who accelerates at a high
speed with a box truck towards them and these people are larping and after a dude gets shot they go
is it rubber do you see people with with rubber bullets these guys have guns at a military installation
they are playing live action roleplay guys
I think it's getting crazy out there
this escalation's getting nuts
the left is going to react to this saying
cops shot an innocent person
they're going to increase the rhetoric and it's going to get
crazy it's very clear
this is what happens when you have a generation of
revolutionaries who are raised on Marvel movies and
Star Wars right like they've never seen
real violence it's all a video game
to them they've never met anybody who's been
in combat in law enforcement in the military
they've probably never even shot a gun
these guys are just out there
playing a video game and when the inevitable consequences come, they're still just acting like
it's TV show. Oh, let me see. It'll be funny. There must be rubber bullets. No, man, when you
drive a truck and attempt to run over armed men, they're going to shoot you with real bullets
so they don't die. It's not a game anymore, but that's always the most dangerous people. People
don't understand what they're pushing into. They're pushing violence, but they don't get what's
coming if they actually achieve what they want. Yeah, well, that's what you see at a lot of these
riots especially. There's literally hired photographers, but not from the press. It's to like distribute
you know high quality photographs for people's
Instagrams because like at the end of the day they just
see this like you said as some
sort of Marvel movie or something like that
and yeah they're totally detached from the reality of like
no you're dealing with federal
federal law
federal law enforcement yeah they're not going to
hesitate if you're driving a box truck at them they're going to let it fly
part of me hopes these leftists are going to be like
I'm not going to this ever again I don't want to die
but I fear that we're actually going to see
considering how extreme things have gotten is
they're going to now use us to recruit
far leftists are going to go to colleges
and they're going to show the person going
I got hit I got hit
and they're going to be like look they shot a random innocent person
This is what they're doing with the costumes in
Portland and now in Chicago with the big inflatable
costumes that's like look we're just
we're having a good time we're silly we're dancing
we're not these violent extremists
and then Cam Higby actually got it on video yesterday
they have a clothing rack this antifa
like encampment they have a clothing rack
of all these inflatable suits so it's
planned they're like hey we're going to pass these out
it's going to make it seem silly then the media can't
you know
I know
in my younger years
I dressed up like a giant ice cream cone man
in one of these suits
I had a friend who was a manager
to Dairy Queen
and it was in downtown
and I'd go and hang out there
when I was downtown
and just bored
and get free ice cream
let's go
and then she was complaining
that nobody would
like she was like
someone's supposed to dress up
like the ice cream man
and go out and dance around
and hand out these coupons
but nobody will do it
and I was like
what? Why not?
She's like they're embarrassed
and I'm like
are you kidding?
I get to
I will do it right now
and she's like
you want to do it?
I'm like, do you mean I get to be the ice cream cone?
And so you put on the suit and there's a box in it.
You turn it on and it blows air.
It's got a tube that goes at the back.
So it pulls air and it inflates itself.
You are walking in an inflated tent.
Now, I'm being a bit silly.
This is true.
I did dance around Chicago outside of the, the, what's it, the Thompson Center?
It's gone now.
The point I'm bringing up is that these people could have weapons and you can't see it because
the suit's inflated and your arm could be inside.
You don't need to put it through.
so the whole thing's like a balloon
and you could pull your arms in like this
and you play video games
and it's air conditioned
it's kind of nice
but they could have weapons
and the cops can't see this
so it is particularly
what's the right word
insidious perhaps
is a word
that may describe this
my fear is that
as this escalation continues
they're going to hold weapons
inside of these things
to hide them because you can't see
the outline of the body
and then when the person on cameras
in the frog costume dancing
and the cops are seen
taken him down. The left will use it as propaganda. Oh, they're attacking the innocent people
who are just dancing. Of course, we are paying attention. We'll them see them, we'll see them
rip the suit open and pull a gun out or something. But the left is going to use these tactics
because they're playing a manipulation game. And it works. I'll just give a shout to the
culture war episode earlier where I asked our friend Brian Shapiro a million times, what was Trump
charged with? And he didn't know. He just said he was convicted on 34 counts. And I'm like,
of what? And he's like, uh, he had no answer. And I'm like, this is what divides left and the right.
You were like, you're saying the government said it was true, therefore it is.
I'm saying, I want to see the proof.
Tell me what happened.
Yeah, well, I mean, you even saw to your previous point with the inflatable costumes.
I think it was in Portland where there was the video of DHS or someone.
They were spraying mace into like the air intake of the costume.
Yeah, which is like hilarious.
Very base.
We love to see that.
But like, in a serious note, like from a security concern, that was what was cited by a lot of people online is they're saying, yeah, as soon as you pull your, you know, your hand.
in, like, the arms will stay inflated,
and then you could be doing, who knows what in there?
You have a knife?
Anything.
Gooning? Who knows?
Who knows?
I don't want to know what's going on.
I mean, with that crowd?
Yeah, probably.
Probably.
Like, almost 100% naked bike ride.
There's a frog, and all you see is the front of it going like this?
Like, oh, what's going on in there?
I don't know.
I don't want to know.
You know what, DHS, leave them secured.
Let's just...
I don't have fun.
Yeah, but this really makes it, like, the Bodriard's hyper-reality of revolution, right?
Like, you have this very...
strange abstract version of this where people are dancing around in costumes and no one knows
what's real and if somebody gets shot it's probably just a joke or something like no one even
knows how to take their revolution seriously and this is in but this also like obscures the real
danger because the only reason that things have not gotten worse is that the left is so bad at this
right they're so stupid we have multiple people who were captured by ice who get shot instead
of ice agents because the guy doesn't know
how to shoot when he's trying to assassinate
ice agents. We have failed bombings.
We have failed assaults. We have a failed
attempt to run a blockade here.
It's only because these guys are so bad at their
job that we don't have multiple dead agents.
What was it called?
Bodriard, Hyperality.
Bo Dreherd's Hyper Reality?
Jean-Bodriard's a French philosopher.
I'm just sitting here being like the IQ jumped 40 points
because a moment ago he's like, that guy could be
gooting in there. You're like, just like Bochard's hyper reality.
I mean, to be fair, Baudreard would probably
make that reference but yes i'm a listener of his show and then he starts saying and i'm just
sit there i'm like i can't even work a coke freestyle machine and he's like drop well that's
embarrassing it's pretty i tried to find the diet option and i just like kind of shut you know what you
know what needs to happen um see the right isn't subversive enough conservatives need to buy a bunch of
these costumes join the protest and then literally just start slapping the belly of the thing so
it looks like they're gooning because then people are going to be like all of these left is shut
in front of the ice facility and they're just gooning in these weird costumes they'll stop wearing
them. Yeah. There's something to be said about that point. Like following World War
II, the Japanese, I think it was the Minister of Culture, Ministry of Tourism. They
commissioned, like, anime, like, Hello Kitty and these sorts of things, because they
wanted, like, soften their image to the world. Because at the time, in, you know,
1948, you asked someone what they think about Japan. They'd be like, oh, they're, like,
committing Sepaku and flying planes around in the, you know, so they had, like, soften their
image. And then this is what the left is trying to do. But the problem is, like, you have a
frog standing right next to a U-Haul truck flying in reverse. It doesn't really work.
This is the sad reality of Japan.
The culture that they've largely built in their media is all just the most brutal stuff.
So, like, what do we watch Simpsons?
Homer's a moron.
We had married with children.
Bundy's a moron.
You get King of Queens.
I don't know the guy's name.
Doug Heffernan.
Is that there you go?
A moron.
In Japan, there, I understand we have superheroes too.
We have Superman.
But we put those shows on for kids in the morning.
And then we put the morons on at night.
And it's sad what's happening in Japan because Japan, because Japan,
they actually have Goku like you go to some of these names i can't remember which which area it is
but there's a gigantic cut out of Goku and if i don't know who he is it's dragon ball z the whole
saga of dragon ball z is basically beating each other up fighting war people dying and that's their
culture everything this is wild they have shows that are not about that that are about like kids in high
school and they're all fighting each other and doing martial arts it's just like their high school
drama, there's like people fighting each other. And I'm like, people in Japan are just real
brutal. But now they're just getting, they're getting stomped on. Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean,
oh, babies. A lot of it was, Dave Chappelle had a famous bit where he was like, we bombed the
masculinity of Japan. We dropped two nukes and they started drawing hello kitty and stuff. And then
a lot of anthropologists were like, I mean, he didn't know this, but that's obviously true.
That is what happened is to an extent the masculinity was bombed out of when they started
drawing. And so you kind of the same thing in the United States where, you know, people
We're getting a little soft, and yeah, that's what the left is trying to do here, is reframe this.
But the problem, like I said earlier, is, like, it's really hard to pull that off when there's, like, a riot happening next to you.
And it's, like, clear they're in the same movement.
I got to say, I think Japan historically had, like, the highest tea culture.
Mishima, yeah.
And I know people are going to be like, I don't know, man, the Europeans are pretty base.
But, like, yes, the Europeans had more landmass, I think.
The Japan was on this island.
But the Japanese people were, like, they would commit suicide if they dishonored their family.
They are probably the gooningest culture of any culture I've ever seen in my life.
Have you guys ever been to Japan?
I have not.
They have masturbation like fast food chains basically.
Wait, what?
So they have a chain of businesses where you can go in to, as the children say, goon.
Right.
Or the young men say.
You go in and do it's the creepiest thing.
It's just, it's already creepy to begin with.
I'm in Japan.
I'm like, we have to go.
Well, yeah.
And we walk in.
You?
Are you kidding?
Do you have to, check it out.
I did not say service the business.
We're on the ground at the Goon Station in Japan.
I'll Schwab, you will goon.
We did a mini-doc.
We did a mini-doc on the five-story tall sex store.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, it's like famous in Japan.
And then they have these buildings everywhere.
And I said, what is that?
And they're like, are Japanese, tours like, like,
oh, where you go to, you know?
And I'm like, no, I don't know.
And they're like, masturbate or master, I don't know how they said.
um masolate they can't say ours and then uh i'm not being mean i just they can't and uh we go in
and like there's a bunch of stuff in like plastic there's like plastic cubbies there were towels
that were stained and you were supposed to use them and there were TVs of people in the room
gooning because they wanted you to watch them and you could buy dirty underwear porn and like
you'd go into a room and you're the choice of being watched by other people or not and i'm like
this is disgusting you just described lecinta that's what a lekeenta
is, you know? You just go there,
you cheat on your wife, you know, you get in a bar fight.
Like, it's kind of fundamentally the same way.
Isn't this what Zoron wants for New York City, though?
Like, he wants these five stations.
Two stations in New York City? He's five story tall.
Because, you know, but in all seriously, he does want to legalize
prostitution. Right. And that's just
more incentive to get, you know, those... I respect
that if he was honest about it. His animal
instincts, you know, like, Japan, they're
not having kids because everyone's already satisfied.
Did you imagine if Zoron at the debate was just
like, well, I just got to say,
we want a goon station. And
We're going to build them.
What's the big idea?
Curtis Slee would be like, I got shot outside of Goon Station.
In 1985, three guys were going in front of me.
When I yelled at them, they shot me.
I will say the video.
I want to win now. I hope Slee will wins.
The video in the U-Haul truck with the journalists, all Larpers, all standing in front,
it reminds me of the Civil War movie and, like, experiences you've talked about to him,
or these people think it's a game.
It doesn't click, like, the gravity of the situation doesn't click in their heads.
and that's why people were shot
because you look at the video
and they're standing right in front of guns.
Well, to be fair, in that second video
where the guy got shot,
you can't actually see the officers.
So you're a block away,
but these guys had rifles.
It looks like some of these law enforcement guys
are holding long guns,
which means that bullet is flying.
Well, it was a Coast Guard base, right?
So that was the security checkpoint.
Can we just, guys,
it appears, okay?
And I don't think anybody disagrees.
Leftists just tried to attack a Coast Guard base.
Is this where people go, whoa, the left is going crazy, let's stop?
Unfortunately, I don't think so.
Well, I've made this point before to, like, a lot, so Tim Kassiers are probably annoyed at this point.
But there is something fundamentally about ICE that animates the left, these leftist
political agitators.
Something about ICE specifically animates them.
And I like to ask, guess, kind of if we can drill down on what that is.
From my perspective, it's just because fundamentally ICE kind of is the bastion of defending
America's borders and defending the American nation at large. And they have such self-hatred
for themselves as Americans, specifically like the white liberals in Portland, that that's what
animates them so much. Because Trump's doing a lot of things. What HHS is doing is great and
it's very, you know, it's bold and whatnot. And in theory, they should be really upset about
the when's the last time you saw like FHHS, you know, graffiti? I want to talk to you, Arn, about
this. I was debating GROC AI, as one does the other day. And it was the issue of Zaron Mamdani
wants to close Rikers, release all the prisoners. And he says it's because Rikers is an
affront to the city. It's terrible. He wants borough new police stations built. But let's be
real, the utopian vision of what the left wants to do isn't actually what they're planning
on doing. It's going to be, we're going to release a lot of these criminals. He said crime is
social construct. He says a lot of these people can have deferred programs. Will Chamberlain
responded, Trump should federalize New York and take over put under federal management before
that can happen. Wall Street Mav asked Grock if he could and Grock said no Trump
can't, which is stupid because Trump can. And I then got into this debate with the AI, not because
I'm like, ooh, I'm going to argue with AI. I wanted the AI to lay out the case of the corporate
press mainstream narrative as to why Trump can't use the authority he legally can. And where we ended up
was Grock was saying, you know, Trump doesn't have the authority to do it. My response is Abraham Lincoln
did. Grock says Abraham Lincoln was fighting a legitimate civil war, which is fascinatingly stupid
and incorrect. Abraham Lincoln, after Fort Sumter, suspended habeas corpus from Pennsylvania to
D.C. along the rail corridor to protect Union troops from potential sabotage. He had members of the
Maryland legislature arrested. This is April of 1861. It was months before the first battle of
Bull Run. No one believed a civil war was possible. Nobody believed it was even happening. In fact,
the first use of the term civil war wasn't until 1863.
So what would happen?
So the way I look at it right now is we very well may be in a civil war if we're following the same context of 1861.
That is.
Donald Trump is trying to enforce the law.
He is sending troops from other states into these blue states.
They are resisting.
Saboteurs are committing terror attacks against federal law enforcement.
If Trump were to suspend habeas corpus, which has already been floated,
by Trump and Miller, it would be within perfect precedent of what presidents have done before.
Do you think I'm missing the mark on this one? Or how do you see what's going on?
I mean, look, as a proud son of the South, I'm just glad that everyone's suddenly realizing that Abraham Lincoln was a tyrant.
I mean, that's all I really ask. But no, it is funny to watch all these Democrats suddenly turn into John C. Calhoun. They recognize, oh, state's rights and limiting the federal government.
Like, look, you guys have been behind this the whole time, of course, very pro-Lincoln, reconstructing the
south, but it's not just that. You know, we've had Eisenhower and JFK send troops into the south
to enforce different court rulings when it came to segregation, these things. We've deployed
troops into American cities so many times over when, you know, Pat Buchanan gave his speech about
the culture war speech about the National Guard taking back LA block by block. So the idea
that this is wildly unprecedented is just completely incorrect. And the only answer is ultimately
does the Republican Party have the will to get this done? You know, would Trump be able to take
those slings and arrows. I think overall, when we look at what happened in D.C., the population was
happy to be safer. I think the same would probably be true of New York. But the problem is that these
people have their safety tied up with all the other voting that they do. They want the benefits. They
have all these perceived carve-outs that they think they're going to get by rejecting Republicans.
And so they vote in people who are going to destroy their law and order to get all that other stuff.
Earlier today, we were on the Culture War podcast debating Brian Shapiro, largely me debating them,
over these issues, and one point that I made, because I think Austin was saying that we should have
more, I don't think he's at Balkanization, but people going into areas where they prefer the laws.
And I said, that's going to lead a civil war. Brian agreed. My point was, you have the United States
as a largely monoculture 30 years ago, and the Democrats and Republicans almost completely agreed on
everything. They disagreed on the wedge issues. And so when you look at the Pew charts,
you can see it's like two bell curves and they largely overlap. What ends up happening is
that because of Democrat and Republican entrenchment in these areas where it's like R plus 30
or D plus 30, and it's actually, I would say it's more a Democrat phenomenon because Republicans
don't control cities. They don't control large urban centers. This means conservative-minded
individuals are going to leave these cities as the policies tend towards further to the left,
which the conservatives don't like. It's exponentially increasing. So what happens now is in New York,
500,000 people left in 2020, largely conservative-minded people who live in New York.
makes it substantially easier for the left to win in New York. There's no opposition anymore.
No politician needs to pander to those conservative people. What ends up happening?
The United States as a whole largely agreed. There were red states and blue states, swing states,
and wedge issues. But now each state is hyperpolarized. So what happens is where Oregon,
you used to have to argue to the conservatives and find the middle ground. With all conservatives
is leaving, Oregon is now liberal to far left, and the government's going to end up in the
staunch leftist position. Conservative states are now going to be moderate conservative to far right
and find the staunch conservative position, meaning that each individual state will increasingly
come further and further left or right. I actually don't think it's entirely true of the
right because the right is much more morally founded, and I think it's because of religious
tradition. But the left is going to go further and further left because they're power and cult-based.
you're eventually going to come to a point where the red states will vote for a president like we are now.
The president's going to say no more illegal immigration.
And the blue states will have gone so far left that every person there and everyone in their government is going to say no to this law.
I think that maybe what's happening now.
And I feel like it's an inevitable reality where the factions will be born.
You will have civil war.
So we're actually going through a predictable cycle that we've been through before historically.
we think of the United States as having this monoculture, but it really didn't for most of its
history. That's why federalism worked so well, right? We had these radically different people
in these different states. They recognized themselves as Americans. They were distinct from other
peoples, but the states were very important. That's why, for instance, somebody like Robert E. Lee,
who was one of the most loyal Americans in the world, who was considered to be the top commander
was going to be given control of the Union Army. That's why he went with Virginia, not because he
was disloyal to the United States, but he felt his loyalty to his home state more than he felt
loyalty to the larger country. And then we see Lincoln come through. You have the Civil War. We have to
kind of reunite again. And so you have construction to try to force cultural homogeneity back
onto the South. Well, that goes for a while. We start to have our differences again. That
builds up until World War II. And then after World War II, we have this grand unifying push under
FDR, communication, culture, education. They all get standardized. We get forced back into a monoculture,
especially with the rise of radio and television, where now everyone can watch the same things
and hear the same things and share the same experiences. But now we're coming back apart again.
And so I don't think this is like some strange thing that we're experiencing, but it's just a
cycle that we go through over and over again. And you're either going to have that strong
unifying presidency that kind of brings the culture back together or things that are going to keep
breaking apart more and more.
Does this, I mean, the way you describe it with these states having identities, it sounds
kind of like that could prevent civil war.
Well, it can't, I mean, well, it really depends on how much the central government demands
that everyone conform to the same way of life, right?
The more that the central government demands that we have one unified culture, one unified
understanding, the more likely that you're going to have states that have a strong individual
identity push back. But if you allow a good degree of autonomy, again, how we did under federalism,
then you're probably less likely to have a civil war in that scenario. The problem is that the
temptation more and more, especially as we've invested more and more power in our centralized
government, is to continue to force that monoculture onto different states. You think there's
going to be a civil war? I think that we are playing with fire. I don't know that we're going
to get a civil war. We've had, again, we've had situations where we deployed troops to the
South and we didn't get a civil war out of it. But at the same time, I think we are further in some
ways apart than we are back than we were, say, the 1950s. You know, I've said this before that.
It really depends on what comes next. But should this become factionalized war, history will argue
that the Civil War started sometime well before now. Yep, that's right. The Hill published an
op-ed saying that the assassination of Charlie Kirk might be our Fort Sumter moment. And so the difference
with the 1861 versus the civil rights era versus now,
there were catalysts.
1861, we had bleeding Kansas,
John Brown's raid, and then you had Fort Sumter.
The civil rights era didn't have any shot heard around the world battle moment or anything egregious.
We actually have several points in the past year or so.
The assassination attempt on Donald Trump, that may have started then.
I actually think the assassination of Charlie Kirk
will likely be considered the Fort Sumter
moment, and it's possible in 100 years, they say
the Second American Civil War started with the assassination
of Charlie Kirk. Much like we hear the story
of Franz Ferdinand. Most people don't really
know the full details of what happened. The story is actually
pretty crazy. It was the assassins
couldn't, they lost him.
It's a comedy of errors. They end up finding him like
they walk out of a cafe shop after thinking the
entire thing has failed and he's right outside
and that's the only reason they actually are successful.
And then they start a World War.
My question is, what could possible?
I think is obvious. We always say there is no off-ramp. The trend is political violence is becoming
more common, more accepted. People are becoming unhinged. I don't see that slowing down. We're in a
spiral. So what kind of event or what would have to happen to prevent us from continuing down
this path? That's why I don't think it's possible. Right. So we, we're hoping with a popular
victory of Donald Trump, I was like, that's going to send the message that we are the moral majority
and we've won. Instead, the response is, I don't care if we're going to kill you.
And so you end up with the people voted for Trump, for the Republicans. The Republicans
have everything. They've got the majority in the House and the Senate. They've got it in the Supreme
Court. They've got the executive branch. And now ICE is enforcing laws that have been on the books
for decades. What are the Democrats are doing? Fighting out. Double down. Fighting.
Fighting. War, terror. Democrats are obstructing in the administrative level, having their
police target federal law enforcement. Their judges are trying to bar Donald Trump's
from enacting his authorities of the Constitution. And then you have the ground level leftists
who are engaging in acts of terrorism and trying to murder cops or ram them with vehicles.
There have been four rammings already and six instances where vehicles have been used as
weapons. I think there's more than that. There's a lot of stories of agents getting boxed in,
but there's no actual like assault or violence. So it doesn't get reported. Right, right. So I think
it's happening way more, especially in Chicago.
When LA County declared a state of emergency over federal law enforcement, I was like,
guys, this is the sign.
A popular vote winner with every branch of government said, we're going to enforce the law
that have been on the books for decades.
And in California, they said, it's an emergency.
They're telling you they're at war with you.
Now, that doesn't mean there's going to be a shootout, but based on that video we saw
from earlier in the morning, Lord help us.
Well, you have this irony poisoning, right?
Again, the fact that this is a Marvel movie for everybody, this is fake for everybody, and that
allows you to creep way closer to the line than you would if you actually recognize the
type of violence that you're entering into, and this really sets us up for a scenario where we could
have just zombie walked into the Civil War without even recognizing it because you have so many
people who are acting as if none of this is serious and none of it can be taken seriously, and that's
part of, of course, the left's tactic.
Again, putting people in these clown suits, putting them in these blow-up suits, making
sure that you throw all this funny stuff out there. You put that out front as if it's
non-threatening. It's not going to be a big issue. And then you don't realize that you've
already crossed several red lines in the whole process. Yep. That's why, as I mentioned,
I was debating our friend Grock. And it kept making these arguments as to why Trump can't use
federal authority in these states, despite the fact precedent already shows us that Lincoln did.
The argument is Lincoln had no authority under the Constitution to suspend habeas corpus. Only
Congress can do it. But he did anyway. And then Congress,
retroactively approved it, creating the precedent that a president can suspend habeas corpus and then seek
approval after the fact, which is nuts. Based on the timeline, if we look at the Charlie Kirk
assassination as a Fort Sumter moment, we are, it's only been a month. And the battle of Bull Run
was, I think, three months after Sumter. theoretically, we could be zombie walking towards
the first, I've described it as, as just an example, not like something that's going to happen,
but the first battle of Chicago. Because Chicago seems to be where the heat of everything is really
taking place. If the gangs get into a shootout with federal law enforcement and leftist extremists
not caring why decide to join and help them for some reason, we will have a moment that we may
not actually describe as the first battle of Chicago, but historically they will. We'll just say
a shootout erupted in Chicago. A couple of years after the fact, we might say, here's what
they're calling it. Just like they didn't say Civil War for two years after Fort Sumter.
I mean, look at COVID. Look how long it took to be like, hey, this is like a pandemic.
now. Like this is a global, like, no one wanted to believe it at first. We're like,
ah, you know, what's going on in China? They're building those emergency
hospitals. It's not going to happen here. And then it was like two weeks.
And we're like, oh, so no, that stuff about in China, all that news, that was like the warning,
like, you know. Well, and this is why it was so important. And I kept pushing, like,
right after Charlie was shot, like, we have to take drastic action now, like right away.
Because the thing that always allows things to escalate is not too much action, too much
authority, it's a lack thereof. And whenever you hesitate, you're encouraging this. So by stepping
in and taking small actions, you're actually making things worse. It's easier to do more than it is
to do less incrementally. That's counterintuitive, but it's absolutely the case, especially when
you have control of the executive, you need to take bold action, sweeping action, put this down
immediately and cut it off right at the source rather than sitting around and playing footsie with it.
That's what they're doing. Yep. That's what I've been saying, like Trump needs to send in the troops now
and put these jurisdictions under a federal management and declare an insurrection and an emergency
and Trump can come out.
And, you know, I don't know.
But he's playing footsie.
And maybe they're waiting for winter.
I'm being optimistic when I say that.
Really, I don't know.
One of the arguments is that there won't be riots if it gets cold out.
And so the Fed is waiting a few months for the temperature to drop.
So then places like Chicago, particularly, in Portland a little bit, but Chicago more so, when they take action, the left will not react.
New York and Chicago are principal targets.
L.A. is always going to be nice out, so that's hard to deal with.
But now is the time to do it.
And I think you're right.
If the federal government allows this insurrection and this sedition, it will emboldened
and keep growing.
If Trump moves in now and people are like, okay, okay, okay, we're going to stop.
The fact that Trump is taking it slow is allowing the left to organize and develop,
once again, parallel economics.
And that's when they finally say, we can fight you.
Yeah. Well, I mean, that's why this entire crackdown that we've been pushing for has never really been about punishment. I mean, to a certain degree for some people, I suppose, was a form of vengeance. But the primary objective, like you're saying is incapacitation. We're trying to incapacitate the enemy. The same thing, like when a child is bashing his toy truck on a glass table, you know, when you take him away and take his toy away, you're not punishing them. You're just trying to get him to not break the table. And that's, that is, you know, the mandate for the federal government in this sense. This is like, hey, they're about to break this table. Pull them away enough. And you've got to
incapacitate. Let's jump to the story from Newsweek. Steve Bannon says, quote, there's a plan for
Trump 2028. What is that plan? Trump, junior, 2028? Because I'm not, I'm not buying it. But
this is what Bannon is saying, quote, he's going to get a third term. So Trump is going to be
president in 2028, and people just ought to get accommodated with that. At the appropriate time,
we'll lay out what the plan is, but there's a plan. We had longer odds in 16 and longer odds
in 24 than we've gotten 28. They say that Trump is not eligible for another term under the
Amendment of the United States Constitution. Presidents are limited to two elected terms.
Now you see the mistake they just made. And, you know, we can try. Let me pull up the
22nd Amendment. Try and guess what the play may be. But we got it right here and I'll throw it in.
Section 1, 22nd Amendment, no person shall be elected to the office of president more than twice.
And no person who has held the office of president or acted as president for more than two years
of a term to which some other person was elected president shall be elected to the office of the
president more than once.
Can anybody in the room answer for me what the key word is that they will try to utilize to get Trump a third term?
I believe it may be elected.
Correct.
If Trump is placed by a judicial appointment into the office of the presidency due to some unforeseen circumstance, it will not be in violation of the 22nd Amendment.
Maybe that's the delay for all this action.
We were just talking about in the last segment is, hey, this is the year one of Trump's second term.
So if there's plays like that in the background, they may need to wait for all this action.
I mean, create a faux crisis and then say, hey, Trump's, he's back again.
But do we really think, I don't know if that's Bannon's play.
What do you think?
The play is going to be appointment?
I would really doubt that they would simply allow the situation to escalate just to set something like this up, set up that emergency.
I mean, ultimately, I mean, if it's an amendment, you're just as likely to be able to repeal it as anything else.
repealed, you know, prohibition. You could repeal this too, ultimately. But the words are
relatively meaning. It's an exercise of power. So the fact is, if Trump wants to be president,
we understand the spirit is that he can't be, but it does say elected. So it sounds like
if the elected route is the route they go, there's an emergency. Trump declares, Trump declares,
Trump declares an emergency under presidential direct, National Security Presidential Directive 51. Are you
familiar? Not. Grated by Bush. The president has the authority under executive orders to
to overwrite the U.S. government
with an enduring constitutional government,
it's called, a single branch that controls everything
and appoints a national continuity coordinator.
The play may be an emergency.
Here's the deal, man.
There's a bunch of different plays that could happen.
Trump invokes the Insurrection Act,
says we are in an active civil war,
and for that reason,
Trump doesn't get elected at all.
He stays president because there's no election in a time of war.
Now, even the U.S., the Union had an election,
during the Civil War.
But there's a bunch of plays Trump could make in terms of emergencies that avoid elected
presidents.
Well, I'm wondering if, like, Bannon actually consulted the Trump administration on this.
Because, I mean, like, there's, I don't know if there's really an appetite because, you know,
J.D. Vance is, you know, a shoe in at this point, quite frankly, if things hold.
And he would probably carry over most of the staffing, if not the overwhelming majority
of the staffing.
So, like, I mean, obviously Trump would have to make the final decision here.
But at least within the Trump administration, I assume they're like, the advanced term would
just sort of be a continuation of Trump's policy.
So why would this even be necessary?
You know, have you guys seen the meme, you can just do things?
True.
What is stopping me from taking this, Wolf Box?
Let me kind of detach this.
There we go.
This is a fan.
What's to stop me from just shucking it as hard as I can at tape?
Nothing really.
Nothing really.
The cameras.
Laws.
Yeah.
Social decorum.
Like, the reality is within the realm of physics, I could do it.
But we know that man has written things down saying, do not do this.
So there is a presumption that should I do something like that?
Well, Tate would probably tackle me and then maybe we get into a fight or get, I don't know.
I actually don't know what he would do if I whipped something at him like that.
I would just take it on content.
I could just cry.
The point is there are reasons why we don't do these things because, one, I mean, we have empathy.
We care about each other.
We don't want to hurt each other.
Some people don't.
But we also fear the laws of man.
But the reality is those laws won't actually stop a person from doing it.
So we wrote down in the Constitution, Trump can't be president.
The question is, is someone willing to exercise the power to just do what they want?
And Bannon is saying, yes, we have.
We don't care what's written down.
If we choose it doesn't apply to us, it doesn't.
Well, I'll now invoke who shall not be named.
Carl Schmidt, of course, talking about it.
I know, I know, I know.
We're all woke here now.
But he talked about the sovereign is he who decides on the exception.
His entire point in saying that is that any given constitution,
is only an outline for how the system should be going.
It can never define every instance that the system will run into.
And by definition, anything the Constitution didn't plan for has to be an exception to that system.
And when you hit those exceptions, the only question is who's in charge, who's sovereign.
And the sovereign is he who can decide this is an exception.
Lincoln says, it's an exception.
We've got to take back the South.
And so the Constitution doesn't matter anymore.
Hapis Corpus doesn't matter anymore.
I can disrupt elections.
I can throw journalists in jail because guess what?
court justices? It turns out that
he was sovereign and he had the power to decide
on the exception. And this is important to understand
what a constitution ultimately is.
Constitutions don't stop anything ever.
It's words written on paper. A constitution
is what the people collectively believe.
And so if the people collectively believe
that Trump can't have a third term, then he
won't have a third term. But if the people no
longer care, if they've lost their faith
in those kind of things, if that tradition no longer
holds, then the words on paper don't stop anything.
And we've seen the left really just
base their entire movement on this idea
that they can just say, I don't care what the constitutionally says, as long as the people aren't going to force it, it doesn't matter anymore.
What do you think would happen if it's the year 2026? It is three days before the election, and 26 polling stations in swing districts are bombed by Antifa aligned individuals, like people with Antifa Lexington running from the scene, they blow them all up. What do you think would happen?
I mean, yeah, again, sadly, I don't think this is exactly outside of the realm of possibility.
And in that case, yeah, there's zero doubt that Trump would have to step in and use military force to return order.
There's simply no other option.
People would demand it. Trump aside.
Now, now let's try this.
And they should, by the way.
What would happen if in 2008 Donald Trump in office not running for office, J.D. Vance is running, and Trump is praising him and saying, hey, you know, he's fantastic.
And the polls are doing really well.
And then early voting begins in these areas.
There's questions about whether or not these places like maybe Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, they're leaning red.
And then we get several dozen bombings at polling stations in areas that are Republican leaning in these states where you need those votes.
They're decimated.
The ballots are destroyed, maybe 10,000 in each location, 1,000 in each location.
Antifa culprits are caught on camera.
One guy gets arrested.
He's a known far leftist.
What happens then?
Sounds like they're trying to insurrect?
Sounds like Trump would say, my fellow Americans, in swing states, largely which will
determine which candidate is going to win, Republican voting districts were just bombed,
several injured, several killed.
We have arrested several people.
We have provided evidence.
it was an attack by left extremists to stop the Republicans from being able to win,
we can't, this election is now void.
How can you then carry on the election knowing that key areas of swing states were bombed?
There's a million in one ways it could go down, but it's like you said, he who is sovereign,
is he who, you know, was it?
Besides on the exception.
Exactly.
Trump says, how would it be fair to conclude this election knowing that far left radicals
destroyed the votes of countless numbers of Republicans in states where they wanted their voice
heard. If their voice is not heard, then the president is not chosen. He can then say,
I firmly believe, even with this attack, J.D. Vance would be the winner. But because of those
attacks, we won't know. Therefore, we will hold a new election, and we will need another six
months to prepare. This election will take place in August of next year, something like that.
I think it's far-fetched, to be honest. I'm just, I'm saying this.
this because there are a million in one ways Trump may be president in 2028. We can we can we can
hypothesize and I agree with you when you said it's not out of the realm of possibility that
leftists will bomb polling stations or something that affect or even trucks carrying ballots.
Are you familiar with the phrase me magic we all know of course so so we say that as a joke
but actually it's very real right like these things kind of will themselves into existence
so Trump is sitting there and the left is saying no kings right no king we have to have this no king protest
and then all of Trump supporters say well you know what maybe he is a king maybe that we start putting
about videos of him with a king like and it's all jokes and it's all fun until suddenly the left
starts treating him like he's a king and then the right says oh we have to fight him like he's a king and
actually if he's the king then he has the powers of it and before you recognize this like that
hyperstition has taken place, right? Retroactively, you have moved yourself into a frame where
whether it's true or not, whether anyone even wanted Trump as king or not, every site has acted
as if he is king. And therefore, he is, right? I'm sorry, I'm sorry, this is incorrect. He's
God emperor. That's true. I'm going to say, I'm going to start walking around like a no Caesar sign
see if it can start a movement. It'd be kind of nice. Oh, I would sure hate if Barron became the
American Caesar. That would suck. We should front of a tyrannus just walking around.
You've seen the DHS Aura Farm edits they've been put now of ICE and DHS agents just cracking down on the far left protests.
And it's crazy because they got music and there's, you know, the flashing lights.
It's an awesome edit.
But people are cheering for this.
Like it's not just like, hey, yeah, cool.
They're upholding the law.
They're like, yes, more of this, you know?
And so people are calling for it.
And that's what's so tragic to me about what the left has done in general is now you've got people in the right.
They're just like, yeah, I don't care anymore.
I just want my family to stay safe.
I don't want to die.
So yeah, let's have troops in every major city.
Well, this energy is all across the West.
Because, I mean, fundamentally, what's driven Trump to this point is that he's tapping
into the frustration of immigration, like broadly speaking.
And this has been all across the West.
We've been, like, covering the Ireland riots and that sort of thing.
And Ireland is a great example of what happens.
We don't even have a right-wing party to siphon that energy off of.
Or in the United States, we have the Trump administration that is fulfilling the mandate.
But, yeah, you still got to give him some red meat.
you've got to give them the edits, you know, you've got to give them this, that, and the other.
But the left should really understand that Trump is what's keeping a lid on this.
Like Ireland is what things could escalate into if it weren't for Trump sort of carrying out that mandate.
And then like on the flip side, I could very well see them, you know, bombing ballot boxes, these sorts of things.
Because the reason we're seeing this leftist violence in the first place is because Trump is so effective.
He has been winning and they feel demoralized.
They feel backed into a corner.
And that's why they're lashing out because they feel like that the right A has a monopoly on power at this stage,
which in many ways we do.
But B, they just feel backed into a corner.
They feel like their avenues to power are completely cut off.
And so that's why they feel like they need to lash out in these ways.
It's not just the terror attacks and the violence that we're seeing in the cities.
Like that's definitely could be a cause for Trump 2028.
But so as we've been recording, the news broke that Hakeem Jeffries has endorsed Zoran Mamdani.
So you basically have the Democrats as a whole now saying, yeah, this communist thing, we're on board with it.
So Trump could just be like, hey, there is no Democrat Party anymore.
It's communism.
Their votes do not count.
Like, we're not playing this.
We fought communism.
We're not going there.
I don't think he would do that.
Stephen Miller's too smart.
I think if Trump wants to go this route, false flag attack.
I'm not, you know, it's funny because people have asked me, like, you really think Trump would do a false flag?
I'm like, I don't know, maybe not Trump, but certainly someone around him.
Come on.
about winning a war. And they tried to put this man in prison. They arrested his lawyers.
Nothing's off the table. Winning is winning. And if you are, to be fair, I'll put it like this.
Conservatives have continually showed themselves to be the samurai, the people who have tried to fight with honor.
So that's why I really don't think we'll see a Trump administration false flag attack,
but I also wouldn't put it past anybody to do whatever it took to win. If the left doesn't engage in these acts of violence or terror
and Trump really does want to be president
for a third term, how hard would it be?
Right now, they put out another bounty
on the pipe bombers from J6.
I think it's fairly obvious
the pipe bombers where Democrat aligned individuals
trying to malign Trump.
Do you see the new videos they released?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe we should actually pull that one up.
Yeah, and it's crazy. A lot of people are, go ahead.
Let's pull the story from Zero Hedge.
FBI, actually, let me zoom out so we can see the actual story.
FBI releases new surveillance video
of January 6th, pipe bomb suspect.
The FBI in October 22nd released new surveillance footage that says it shows a person placing pipe bombs the night before January 6th.
The video show, actually, is this the video right here?
On January 5th, 2021, between 7.30 and 8.30 p.m., an unidentified individual placed pipe bombs near the offices of the Democratic National Committee and the Republican National Committee in Washington, D.C.
The FBI and our partners are renewing our call for tips from the public to help us identify.
the suspect.
A reward of up to $500,000 is available for information that leads to the arrest and conviction
of the individual responsible for this attempted attack.
If you have any information, please call the FBI at 1-800-all-FBI.
You can also submit tips online at tips.fbi.gov.
I don't know why it's eight minutes.
...turf shoes, which are black and gray with the yellow Nike logo.
Fewer than 25,000 of these shoes were sold.
between August 2018 and January 221.
The first time the suspect is seen is at approximately 7.34 p.m.
at the intersection of 1st Street and North Carolina Avenue southeast.
Okay, I don't want to play the full thing, but...
A shoe thing.
Is anybody here think the person was not a Fed?
No hands?
I maybe not fed, but I firmly believe this was some kind of agent operative.
This was not some random leftist terrorist or individual.
like this was coordinated intentionally,
specifically pertaining to the January 6 riots.
Guys, what is the probability that J6 was fomented intentionally
to try and destroy Donald Trump?
I think it's very likely.
It could have been a foreign power.
I mean, that's why, like, because I see that stat
where there's only 25,000 pairs of these shoes made.
That's not a lot for America.
That's not a lot of shoes.
Now, you narrow it down to who might have been in D.C.
near J6, and there's all these other parameters.
You can narrow that number down.
So there's probably less than 50 people that they think could be the guy.
But the fact that they haven't gotten them five years later, they have no leads whatsoever.
Now they're having to release all this additional footage because they're lost.
Maybe it was a foreign actor who's fled the country the day after.
I mean, a lot of people always assume it's domestic that causes the internal strife in America.
But why not someone from Iran, Qatar, Israel, et cetera?
Well, that or, I mean, again, I don't want to completely, completely, you know, loose side of the day.
This very well could have been a leftist as seeking to foment some sort of, you know, civil strife so they can impose their will.
I mean, we did see in J6, there was a lot of speculation that were like Antifa aligned actors in the crowd that were trying to, trying to agitate, trying to rile people up.
Like, that is in their playbook to sort of bring forth civil strife so that they can do their thing so they can operate with more impunity.
But, I mean, yeah, I mean, who knows?
I mean, the fact that they're having to throw the shoe size out shows that, you know, it's a bit grim.
And he leads here, but a lot of people online are saying, I mean, I don't, I didn't get this from the video, but the additional security camera footage,
they say the person walking, their gate would imply it's a woman.
I don't, I don't get that sense.
The shoe thing, definitely that looks like a male shoe.
Let's play some of this video.
See the gate.
I will watch this and do a gate analysis.
and then south on South Capitol Street.
This footage of the suspect on South Capitol Street shows the person setting down their backpack,
which is believed to contain one of the bombs at this time.
I'm going to say, woman.
And I'm going to tell you why it's the bending over.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Watch the bending over.
This footage of the suspect on South Capitol Street shows the person.
setting down their backpack, which is believed to contain one.
Because women have lower centers of gravity, it's much easier for them to control
their legs as they're bending their torso up and down.
Men would not, that likely is not masculine in my...
I don't know for sure, but it's very effeminate movements.
And seriously, watch the videos of women.
They have a man and a woman stand against a wall, and they'll tell the woman to bend over
and pick something up and the man to do it.
men can't because of their higher center of gravity.
So when you notice the legs
stay perfectly straight and don't move
as the torso moves up and down, very indicative of a woman.
...of the bombs at this time.
Hard to know for sure, though. I mean, narrow hits.
The suspect appears to put on a pair of glasses
and scan the area, standing on tiptoes.
Trans man.
Regardless, we should be looking for cars with curb rash.
I think that'll help us.
There you go. That proved it.
before picking up the backpack, turning around, and heading back the way they came on South Capitol Street.
Very FBI, true crime.
FBI stepped their game up.
After reaching the corner of D Street, the suspect turns around again,
and this time walks south all the way down South Capitol Street to a bench outside the Democratic National Committee headquarters building.
Hard to tell from this.
That was not good quality.
Low frame rate
I wonder who picked the music
This one sounds good
Here we see the suspects sit on the bench
For a few minutes
They do not place the bomb at this time
Man spreading
Man spreading
And men like to sit on benches and think
That is true. That is indicative of a man.
The suspect then walks east on Ivy Street.
So we know it's either a man or woman.
Narrated down.
Well, I was going to say they put the bag down really delicately,
but I guess there's a bomb in it.
Two of them.
But it was a fake bomb that was very similar to the training bombs they use.
That's my understanding.
Which is a very zesty man, I think.
Turns north on New Jersey Avenue.
And then pauses near the.
corner of D Street before retracing their steps back to the DNC bench where
the first bomb is placed. I should want to really stress though because guys don't
bend down like that. Yeah, no, that's no, that's 100%. And this looks does look a little
bit more feminine. I don't know. It's tough. I think it's a woman. The bending over
over for the bag is just guys don't do that. Guys typically don't have the flexibility.
ability to do that. I'm not, I'm not kidding. The, uh, uh, like how many guys can, can stretch
for it and touch their toes. If you're saying, though, if this is a fed or a fed or some kind of,
you know, deep state individual, wouldn't they, the assumption they're in shape, they're very
physically fit? You don't think so? Someone that would, they would be sent for this kind of
operation. You know it to be super, you're not going to send a fat guy. Okay, but let's just,
let's just, let's just try this. Literally, we're all dudes, stand up and bend over perfectly,
standing straight up without your legs moving
to reach down and grab something off the ground.
I'll do it. The audience is going to do it.
Get the wide cams. This proves
everything. Now you're bending your knees.
No, I'm just picking it up to put it in place.
You know, let's see. Don't bend your knees. Reach down without
bending your knees. Oh, my hamstrings.
So the point is this.
You could do it, but you wouldn't because it's not comfortable.
You'd bend your knees. I'd probably go.
I see, yeah.
I probably squatted a little bit. But more importantly, this individual went up and
down, went down up
and then down more, without the
legs moving, and they were together, very
feminine. Right. You're really sticking their
dairy air out as well. Right.
Oh, my hamster. So, I guess
these, lesbian then. Maybe.
Here, we see the suspect, placed the bomb at approximately
754 p.m. Is anybody getting a boy haircut
recently? Basketball shoes, though. Basketball
that's very lesbian. That is very lesbian. I'm placed.
There you go. This is wild. They did a lot of work on this. WMBA
paraphernalia found nearby.
From there, the person walks north on South Capitol Street.
Swinging the bag?
Really, spend the bag.
Really having fun.
Be curious to how fast this person was actually walking.
It looks like they're hustling.
East on D Street.
South on New Jersey Avenue.
Remember when the wife
Okay, so Ilan Omar is dating this guy who's married
And then some air train guy just randomly kills someone who looks just like his wife
In the same neighborhood where his wife lives
And everyone, you know, everyone was kind of like
Nothing to see here
They were like maybe the air train guy was supposed to kill his wife
But killed the wrong person instead
Oh
Yeah, it was a red-haired woman walking a dog
Got murdered randomly for no reason
And then you find out that this dude that Elon Omar is with
Is married to the same red-headed woman in the neighborhood
Who walked a dog
And it's like, did somebody tell that Air Train guy to kill him?
killer, and then he killed the wrong one.
Well, no.
Northeast on North Carolina
Avenue, when we lose
video coverage of the suspect at approximately
8 p.m.
Eight minutes later, at about 808
p.m., we picked the suspect back up
on camera heading north on second
street. Weird.
The suspect walks west on
C Street, enters an alley
that leads to Rumsey Court,
and then walks west on Rumsey Court.
That's a woman.
Look how the feet are walking.
I'm saying it's a woman.
How they go in front of each other?
It's in the hips.
Yeah.
It's like a strut kind of.
This footage shows the suspect passed between the R&C and the Capitol Hill Club holding the backpack out to the side.
Maybe trans man. I'm not getting. Maybe trans man.
The person continues between the RNC and the Capitol Hill Club.
Then continues north on first street.
East on C Street.
The hell?
Case in the joint.
Back into the alley.
Making sure norms around.
Back on to Rumsy Court.
He seems really familiar with the R&C,
so he might be gay.
Oh, he?
Might be gay.
Descruntled staffer.
They placed the second pipe bomb
at approximately 8.16 p.m.
The suspect then turns back on to Rumson.
Comsy Court, walking east until the person is last seen on camera at approximately 8.18
p.m. wearing the backpack on their shoulders. The bomb is believed to have been placed shortly
before this video based on how the suspect is carrying the backpack. We still believe there is someone
out there who has information they may not have realized was significant until now. We are asking
you to come forward to share that information with the FBI. Please call the FBI.
Alright. So, Tim, could you rewind real quick to the graphic when it shows when he placed the first bomb at the DNC. I'm curious to the timestamp on there compared to when he placed the RNC bomb and then I want to see that distance. How much time it took for him to cover that distance. I think it was like, what, 20-something minutes?
It was all within like a half hour or something like that. Because it was...
Yeah, you can't bounce around it on X videos like that. Yeah.
So, but they have it written down. 734.
And 815 is what was happening.
The vice at the DNC was 754, RNC was 816.
Okay.
It's really not that late at night.
To be...
That's not.
That's just the evening.
Right.
It was what?
The RNC and DNC is about six blocks from each other.
Yeah.
Yeah, 20 minutes-ish.
Fake bombs that look very similar to the bombs they use in training exercises.
Mm-hmm.
Were they fake?
Yes.
I thought they were real.
They just didn't go off.
I thought they were fake, weren't they?
I don't think the FBI said.
Or maybe, yeah, maybe they not have said either way.
Yeah, they just say pipe pumps.
Okay, no, viable explosive devices.
Wow, okay.
The devices were diffused.
Okay, I was wrong.
Wow.
And if this was an operation of a deep state or, you know, CIA of some sort,
this is the perfect suspect.
You can't see their face.
They're fully clothed, gloved mask,
and we don't know if it's a man or woman.
We're debating it.
Right.
Like, this is the perfect subject for this.
Where were you at, Tate?
on 20, 2021 at 7.54 p.m.
You need to talk to a lawyer.
It's like your bar mitzvah, right?
There was a wall involved.
I was kissing it.
You know, it was the whole thing.
Yeah.
Wow.
I think it's very obviously, this is, maybe it's not fed, but it's some kind of operation.
Yeah.
I still, like, I think people in America are so quick to just say, assume this is a leftist or a false flag, just domestic, whatever, whatever angle you choose.
But I, like, dude, at the height of when this was going on, and you realize Trump was contesting the election, the Russia claims weren't debunked, people still thought he was a Russian asset.
Who knows if it, like, I lean towards foreign asset, foreign government of some sort.
To be fair, in the lead up to January 6th, it was still like a very well-known quantity.
There was a lot of Democrat politicians, leftist media, were complaining about the march in general.
They were saying, oh, this is like ridiculous.
It's over the top.
So, like, I think among the leftist activist base, they were aware that, you know, there was going to be a ton of paper.
Patriots in D.C. on one day. Because why would you target both? That's what I was going to say. The fact that
both of these locations were targeted is it's either there to completely throw you off. You would need
like one bomb to be real and one to be fake or it's very clear that ultimately this is meant to
sow confusion. Right. If you had a specific political target, you wouldn't distribute the bombs
equally across both parties. That would make any sense. Yeah, because I feel like a lot of the
news, I mean, this is an old story. We're kind of talking about for the first time in a while.
but when the story was big
it was all kind of attributed to see
look how violent J6 was
there was pipe bombs and a riot
how did AOC know
how did AOC know
in advance that Trump supporters
would storm the building
you know the story right
I don't a few
this is like a month after
January 6 AOC told the story
I think it was a month
it might have been a couple weeks
told the story where she said
she was in her office and she
Oh wait I didn't know the story banging on her door
and she went and hide in the bathroom
thinking the rioters
have found me. And the guy went, where is she? Where is she? And she thought she was going
to die. And then it turns out it was actually the officer evacuating people because of the
pipe bombs. At that point in time in her story, no one had breached the Capitol grounds even.
When she was telling that story about the time when they bought lunch, what time it was
when this happened, you can track when the evacuations happened and when the actual storming
of the Capitol happened. It was an hour later. What made her think?
rioters would have gotten into the Capitol complex and gone to the tunnels to her office.
It's possible she's just making a fake story up.
I lean towards that.
I'm not going to give it the benefit of the doubt.
No, she said they were going to kill me.
Okay.
How'd you know they were going to get in the building?
I think they all needed to build up that terror rate.
Like, that's the whole point.
And I think that's why a lot of people are very suspicious about the number of FBI agents in the crowd during this whole thing.
What is up to 300?
right plus not even to mention the number of informants on top of that like you have so many people
there and i'm sure that there were people who wanted to enter the capital at some level there
were people who were getting out of hand at some level but if you're a highly corrupt FBI
that's obviously been pushing joe bit's you know agenda on the right the entire time if you've
been identifying the right as the most dangerous terror threat the most dangerous domestic terror threat
if you've been fed all this stuff it's probably not too hard for the you know agents involved
to be like well maybe maybe we didn't encourage a few people to go in
They want to do it anyway, right?
We're just moving it along.
It's just a little bit of entrap, and it's not a problem, and then the whole thing
kind of spirals.
So I think it's one of those scenarios where, you know, everything is already lit, and all they
had to do was drop the match into the tender, and they were like, yeah, I think we're
okay with that.
I'm also curious to what comes out of this, you know, Cash just said, hey, we're on the verge
of unmasking the structure behind Antifa.
And I think it was Andy No, I could get that wrong, but someone has been doing work
exposing people at J6 dressed up as MAGA, and they're known Antifa members.
Right.
So I think it's Andy Noe that's been doing this work.
So now I'm curious to win what the FBI is going to find and if there's any connection between these NGOs, Antifa, and what happened in the lead-up to J-6?
There are videos of people like getting dressed.
They're a bunch of trees and people like, what are you guys doing?
And it looks like, it looks like feds.
Not to mention, there are several people who are seen coming against of violence who are never tracked down by insurrection hunters or the police.
you know one of the things that people don't really put together they complained about trump you know getting this giant budget for ice and building this huge force is getting a military style budget and a lot of people complain oh you don't need that you know we had rann paul and and thomas massing these guys saying don't do they don't think about the fact that if the fbi is truly compromised like if it's really truly compromised beyond any hope what would you do right would you would you build up your own force your own domestic law enforcement force from the bottom up with military style budget you
where you get to hire the vast majority of the people
and ensure that they're loyal to you?
People just don't do that math,
but we know the FBI has been desperately corrupt
for an extremely long time.
It's probably not going to investigate itself
and figure it all out.
Yeah, it takes, and I understand the frustration from people, obviously,
especially because within the consort of movement,
we've been antagonized by the intelligence sphere for so long.
But, yeah, the unfortunate thing is it does take quite a bit of time
to reorient the FBI away from prosecuting and persecuting
right wingers like that's been their specialty for the last their entire that's what everyone in the
organization has been hired for that purpose right even christopher ray who is appointed by trump
goes out and says right wing domestic terror the most dangerous thing in the united states right like that
has been the governing doctrine of that organization for decades it doesn't just go away because
cash pettel shows up and fires a few guys yeah you don't just like put up a lincoln listing for
fbi agent FBI official like it takes a while to like churn the staff but it turns out you can do that
when you're scaling ICE up.
That's true, and it's very based.
Well, even ISIC has some pretty high standards.
Like, I mean, but obviously you're building it up.
So that's different than churning, you know, a force.
So, yeah, and this is happening all across the administration.
There's a lot of frustration, a lot of like what's taking so long, this, that, and the other.
And yeah, it's really important to put in perspective, A, you know, what a typical Republican administration looked like.
I think we forget where we were before this.
But then B, how long it takes to reorient these, you know, you know, you know,
you know, how long it takes to reorient these agencies.
I mean, it takes a very, very long time because there's so much entrenched staff.
There's so much deep state.
Thankfully, this government shutdown has obviously given the Trump admin some breathing room now
where they can start, you know, telling people like, yeah, you don't need to come back to work, you know, that sort of thing.
But, yeah, like you're saying, I mean, these things take time.
And it's unfortunate because, like, yeah, we want to move quick, obviously, especially seeing people get killed.
But it's not like you can just snap your fingers.
There's not a button on Trump's desk that says, like, make the left go away.
like unfortunately it's just not how it works unless i don't know maybe stephen miller has a plan i don't
know maybe there is a button somewhere but uh you're fired as far as i know there's only a diet coke
button he doesn't have the fix everything magically button we need one of those that was the annoying
thing in the culture war where uh brian shapiro was arguing trump's been complaining for nine
years and hasn't fixed it and i'm like okay like what's the argument that he's been complaining
and hasn't fixed it and i'm like i complain a lot of about a lot of things i can't fix too
like i don't understand why you're pretending to be upset by this trump doesn't have a magic
button to solve every problem. He's a guy.
We have to be happy with what he gets done and ask him to try harder on things that he's
not getting done. It's a weird thing to get hung up on.
It's ultimately like the purpose if you are a right winger, if you are right of center
and you want to win, your purpose is to move the football down the field in whatever
capacity you're in. And not every play is going to be Hail Mary. Not every play is even
going to be like a long 50 yard completion. Sometimes it's like a little three yard run up the
middle. Like that's how these things work. But you have to consistently move the football
down the field. And when you look at the Trump administration,
he is continually pushing the football.
He's a new line of thinking. Who is that guy who ran
60 yards in the wrong direction?
Oh. That's happened a few times.
Put him in a concussion protocol.
It happens in college football a lot.
When the punter missed the ball. The Steelers had a bad, like,
there's a lot of Republicans that do that. That's my point.
Yeah. So. I think that's a
And you're like, hold on a minute. Maybe they're doing that on purpose.
Right. That's a new line of thinking, though.
Because, like, I remember, like, the first, like, big election that I was aware of,
aware of was Mitt Romney and Obama.
and Mitt Romney's that the conservatives then is night and day compared to the conservative movement now.
Like now they're like, hey, no, we don't want to just stop Democrats.
We want to actually push our own agenda and get our own things done.
I mean, you've been around the conservative movement for a really long time, Tim is as well.
Like, from my perspective, it seems like Trump was the first time that people were voting.
Republicans, right of center, people were voting for a candidate when pretty much every election prior to that,
people were just saying keep him out of office.
I'll plug my nose and vote for this guy.
Romney was just an anti-Obama vote.
I mean, I voted for Trump as a largely keep him out, keep Biden out of office.
Second time around, it was relatively similar, but Trump has proven himself.
The conservative base seems to be like, I'm voting for Trump.
Indeed, correct.
That's because Trump was a middle finger to the Republican Party, too, right?
Like, Trump was just as destructive to what the Republican Party was as he was to the idea of leftist dominance as well, which is why so many people hated him.
And they still hate him, by the way, like the vast majority of these people who, you know, a lot of them went never Trump and they did the Bill Crystal bulwark thing.
But there are plenty of people who were never Trump who came back to the conservative movement and suddenly discovered a respect for Donald Trump until they could vote for Ron DeSantis.
And all of a sudden you had to vote for Ron DeSantis or you were a traitor to the country and you hated whatever.
And then Ron DeSantis lost.
So they kind of had to go back to Trump again.
And now they're trying to police all the people who were actually loyal to Trump back out of the movement.
Right.
So the Republican Party is still fighting.
Trump at like every stage. And so really, Trump is not just defeating the left. He is also
defeating what was conservatism as well because it's not fit for purpose. It does not conserve
anything. We've all recognized that at this point. Still, do you think that's still happening
though? Because definitely in like 2022, 2020, 23 when DeSantis announced his, you know, candidacy,
there was definitely a lot of pushback from like rhinos and the Nikki Haley's and stuff.
But I think everyone's kind of fallen in line at this point on the right.
I disagree. I think that there are a lot of people who are playing Trump fans so they can guide the Trump.
They recognize MAGA is the future now. So how do I define MAGA, right? If you're not familiar, this is how neo-conservatives entered into the Republican Party, right? Like this is the Buckleyite purge of the right. This is the, you know, we have had a situation over and over again where the establishment sees the new wheel turning and they take control by coming in and saying, well, actually, we get to decide what.
that looks like, even though we were against you 10 minutes ago, now we're on your team.
And since we're so smart and elevated and everything, maybe we get to dictate where we're
going, right? And so I think we're seeing a lot more of that. They'll not come out and say
directly, I'm against Trump, but they are against everybody who supported Trump the whole time
they were against Trump. Basically just Massey and Rand Paul. Well, that seemed to be the real
sort of a side consequence of the DeSantis candidacy was it made it clear to Trump who was still
loyal to him. At that time, like, it was like Trump was bleeding allies. I mean,
I mean, Charlie Kirk was one of the only guys in the space that was like, no, we're sticking, he's the guy.
I mean, Trump was bleeding allies everywhere.
And I think that for him was actually a moment that was helpful, that was beneficial to him, was it weeded out a lot of people that coded MAGA, but we're ready to flip at the soonest opportunity, you know, the quickest off ramp.
So, you know, it's a camera still on me?
Yeah, it is.
We're waiting for you to finish your point.
Point's been made.
I'm loyal to Trump till the very end.
I'm a Trump loyalist, American Caesar.
Let's talk about what happens if we lose.
We have this from the post millennial.
70% of Democrats support amnesty for illegal immigrants, according to Rasmussen.
47% of voters said that Trump's immigration policies have been too harsh.
32% said they were just right.
70% said not harsh enough.
70% of Democrats support legislation toward amnesty to illegal immigrants who are in the United States, according to this poll.
So if Democrats get power, we know exactly what they're going to do.
For what the fourth time now, they're going to let a large,
block of non-citizens become citizens and I don't know what is this Rome yeah i mean i've i'm 41 now
and i cannot remember a single election during my adult lifetime that was considered legitimate
like starting with bush and gore and then you had obama and the birth certificate and then you had
all the questions of russia gate and everything with trump and then it was the election with
Biden and all the counts there. Nobody has accepted truly an election as legitimate the whole
time I've been able to vote as an adult. And we're all still standing around like that's not
going to have a cost eventually, right? So now we're done like making arguments. The Democrats are
just going to import new voters or if they can't win that way, they're just going to do violence.
But the idea that like they're just going to say, oh, well, I guess the Republicans, they just won
that election and now that's just the way things are. That is never happening again. It hasn't happened
the whole time I've been around.
I will be in prison.
We'll be in the gulag.
That's what worries me about the Zoron stuff, dude.
If the Democrat Party is positioning themselves in support of Zoran in his policies and they win the midterms, that's frightening.
Yeah, well, and it's terrifying.
And the thing about Zoron that's so disturbing is he's importing like a third world form of authoritarianism.
That's kind of foreign.
Like the Democrats, yes, they have, you know, demonstrated they have this proclivity, but it's not the third world style.
The third world style is legitimately just killing your play.
political enemies, throwing them in jail, et cetera, et cetera.
And, yeah, the Democrats have flirted with that.
But Zoron importing that style of, you know, vaguely left-wing politics is, like, really
disturbing because that for them is not even really about pushing any policy down the field.
It's literally just about vengeance, retribution.
This is what you saw in Uganda.
I mean, Eidiamine, like, what, can anybody name a single policy business?
Like, I don't know, but all I knew is, you know, persecuting his political enemies.
It's a form of vengeance that is particularly to that part of the world.
And then you're going to bring, you know, that.
voter base in to support. You're going to bring that voter base
in from the third world that will continue to advocate
for these policies. Don't believe me? Look at Minneapolis.
Look at Elon Omar.
All she's doing is just... A little Somalia.
Everyone's like, how is it that she's a Muslim
but supports LGBT? It's because like, that's
not the point. The point is just like retribution
and vengeance. Just destroy America.
So it's also
divide and conquer. It is we
want a Somali Muslim community where we live
and we need to weaken their machine
to empower ours. It's
amazing how gullible conservatives
are, if you just throw some kind of ideological gobbledygook at them, they'll just debate that
forever rather than notice the obvious. Like, no, foreign hordes are importing their own people
to take over your stuff. Like, you could track this back to thousands of years in BC, and it wouldn't
matter. It's the same strategy. Nothing has changed about human nature. The fact that you have some
abstract ideology where you think that as soon as someone walks into America, they randomly become
George Washington, like, sorry, but that's not actually how it works. But conservatives will just
debate this endlessly rather than recognize the opposite.
What if we created some kind of viral gene
manipulation where when they walked in
we spray them and then they actually
turn into George Washington? Yeah, their IQ goes up 20 points.
They gain all of the... Just go, I don't
get it. We gave them the pocketbook constitutions
and they still want to eat me. Like, what is it?
No, I think you're all wrong because clearly,
as everybody knows, once we delivered
the American constitutional system to Liberia,
they became a developed,
heavily civilized nation, and it's a paradise.
They just launched their space station
It's going great.
It's great.
Oh, yeah.
It's like one of those air hogs.
I mean, they still eat each other.
You know, there's a lot of cannibalism there.
Eat hungry, you know.
The space station was a drawing from a tourist who was there, not actually the country of Liberia.
In Crayan, you know.
In Crayan.
Liberia is a really great example of this multiculturalism is fake.
We go to this place.
We establish a colony.
We say, here's how the government works.
And they're like, so we eat each other?
And we're like, no, you vote.
But I want to eat him.
And then it's like, we come back.
to check on them and they were like, how's the government going?
And they're just like,
it was delicious.
The government was delicious. Barbecues in charge now.
I don't know what to tell you.
No, what was the guy's name?
What was the actual guy's name?
Butt naked, General butt naked.
General butt naked.
Yeah, barbecue is Haiti.
Right, right.
They're eating people there too.
Losing track of all the cannibals.
Wherever you're eating people.
Isn't he still doing that?
I'm confused by this.
Could you explain to us why giving an American constitutional system
to people in Liberia did not create a utopia?
Sure.
So, constitutions are not.
written documents. Constitutions are literally what it sounds like. They are the way that
the people are constituted. And so when we write down things on a piece of paper, we're just
capturing what we were in that moment. So the reason that the American founding document is so
beautiful is not just that the words on paper are great, though they are. It's that the people
who wrote them down were capturing the way they lived their lives and actually showing us this is
who we are as a people. If you replace the people, you replace the constitution. It doesn't
matter if you still have a written document, the document is not enough. So like South Africa
has one of the most amazing constitutions ever in a lot of people's mind and promises
housing and all these amazing things. And guess what? South Africa sucks. And it's because
the constitution itself cannot mediate what's happening there. The document can only work
if it's a shared agreement about your traditions, your heritage, your religious beliefs,
your values. And the minute you treat that legal document as like the actual structure
of your government, you've completely failed to understand what holds your country together.
And this is why it matters what the people believe in the quality of the people, which is
what the founders actually told us.
That was what John Adams said.
We need a moral and religious people.
The country is not going to work.
The Constitution is not going to work.
It's not because he thought the Constitution was bad or failed or couldn't do the job.
It's that he knew constitutions were only a reflection of their people.
And so if you hand a Constitution foreign to Liberia to Liberia, they will act like Liberians
and not whatever the Constitution says.
Yeah, like they were so obviously, like, pretty exclusive about who they viewed as an American.
I mean, like, Thomas Jefferson bought a Quran, and everyone points to this.
So he was this open-minded guy.
He, like, went to war with Libya, like, right after he read these.
He's like, what?
Okay, let's go and find a country over there just invade him.
Like, the founding fathers were, like, very clear of who they, you know, because
this is one of the last questions Charlie Kirk sort of posed to the conservative movement
was, like, what is an American?
And, like, that's a really vital question that's screaming out for an answer.
Well, and, you know, John Jay actually told us in federalist number two, which is so weird because, like, we have this whole, like, body of what the founders actually thought, and we all just kind of ignore it when we debate the founders' values.
He said it's one nation and one people descended from the same people, speaking the same language, sharing the same religion.
Like, he wasn't, it wasn't coy about what a nation was.
Yeah.
Like, he was very explicit.
Well, you made this point, I think it was on Tucker where you were saying, like, that Anglo-Protestant sort of ethos that capitol.
like the founders sort of the way that they viewed the world the what their culture was or the
religion etc etc like the closer you get to that the closer you will get to the constitution
just kind of being natural and flowing and the further away you get from that the more it's
going to be a little bit convoluted and then yeah you look at Minneapolis and it's like they
just view the constitution as restrictive and irritable and an imposition rather than like just
kind of a natural outflowing where I look at the constitution I'm like yeah that makes
yeah that makes sense yeah totally right you know I'm not one of these people who
thinks that it's entirely impossible for someone to assimilate to the United States like even
Pat Buchanan said that people can assimilate
to the United States. But he was very clear
they have to have something to eliminate or assimilate
to. You have to have
a predominant culture. And if you
bring in a lot of people who don't share
that culture all at once, that culture
will cease to be. That's as obvious as it can
be to anyone in the world. So it's not
like you can't bring a few people
in from a foreign country because they
married an American or they're an exceptional
person and they can learn the ways
of America over time and over generations
their family can become American. But you
can't just walk millions of people in
and be like, well, we read the Constitution, and now they're
all Americans. I got it.
M.K. Ultra, remember that?
Anyone who comes to this country has to get MK. Ultron.
It's not bad. Two weeks,
locked in a room with no windows.
Metal, you know,
whatever they're called, holding your eyes open while you watch
just like... J.D. Vance memes.
GHS edits.
All right? Yeah, DHS memes.
Or a farming from the... It might work.
That's better than our current strategy.
I mean, to your point, too, is like, you know,
you have to have something to assimilate too
because this is like something Conservatives
keep saying I'm like this is not true
it's like they're like
how did someone like Zoran he's not assimilated
how this happened I'm like
have you ever been to the outer boroughs
of New York City he actually reflects
in perfectly he reflects the new
group there like very well actually
it's like you knew around here this is kind of
what our cities look like these days
one silver lining to Zoran
and what's happening in New York City is
they're going to speed run this
test of socialism
in arguably the largest
it's still by population the largest city in America
Oh, like two times as big as things.
Yeah, yeah. So they're going to speed run this test, and I predict that it's going to fail miserably.
And so you could get a conservative New York after all this.
I don't think so because Jack Posobic.
It's a dream, but I can dream.
Jack Posobic made this point, and it's just really poignant.
And it's kind of a hard pill to swallow, but it's true.
He was talking about the New York City mayoral election.
He's like, this isn't an election about policy anymore.
This is an election that's basically a census.
This is an election about demographics.
That's right.
California, is it better run now or when it was in the 50s and?
60s. Right. But you can't get a Republican elected in California anymore. Why? Is it because
Democrats are so much better at running California? No, the electoral results no matter. You moved a
bunch of people into the United States and shifted the demographics of California. That's all
it matters. But whatever the reason, it is obvious that California's mismanaged and not being run
properly. So the option is Trump should declare an insurrection and go in and clean it up.
Your options are either to separate from these people or to rule them. There is no other option,
It's a roll them.
Yeah.
Those are your options.
I do think New York will be differently different than what you're describing in California
because that was like a slow rot problem, right?
Like it was decades of mismanagement and then all of a sudden you look back and like,
how do we get here with Zoron's policies about like privatizing the grocery stores,
I think he wants to make it.
He wants to social grocery stores.
That's change that's going to happen overnight and people's going to see that impact.
Do you really think about how awesome it is for people who don't live in New York?
we could get like a big box truck
go to one of his commie stores
buy a ton of stuff and just bring it here
and we save tons of money and it's
them who's collapsing
will then sell these goods at low rates
to the stores here for a small profit
you exploit the communism
you know that's a joke but I guarantee there's people
already thinking of this like a neighboring states
like oh I can't wait exactly why this is so dumb
people are not even neighboring states you're going to live in New York
you're going to go to these stores and you're going to say
no profit products I'll take the lot
Then they're going to drive across the way to Jersey
and they're going to be like, I can sell it to
at cost for delivery.
You guys, look, the 20% margin gone,
I make 5%, you make 15.
And they're going to be like, this is amazing.
And then these stores will never have food in them.
They're doing this at the casino.
You see these people walk up
and they buy a whole carton of cigarettes
and I'm like, why, that's insane.
You're paying casino.
It's like $15 a pack.
They're taking it because they've got bonus points
through the casino, taking it and selling it somewhere else.
Well, you know, in Chicago,
The way it works is that Illinois passed these taxes on cigarettes, but Indiana didn't.
So people would drive to Indiana buy a ton of cartons of cigarettes.
Then every party you are at, people were like, smokes, who wants smokes?
And they called them squares back then.
I bartered with cigarettes all through Africa because you get in the capital, you could get them.
Oh, I thought we were getting a prison story. Go ahead.
Well, Africa really is one big prison when you really think about it.
Yeah, but like, yeah, I would be like a Nairobi.
And then when I was in like the countryside, in the bush, there's no access to cigarettes there.
So I wasn't even using it.
I was just using them to barter.
Like I'd pay for taxis and stuff with them because it's just like, even though it's worth less than what the taxi would have cost, the taxi you're just hopping on the back of a motorcycle.
Using the cigarette, they're like, oh, well, I don't go to Nairobi anymore.
I can just help this.
But I do want us to just remember this.
Like, it's really, really important.
Is the economics dumb?
Yes.
Do they even know the economics dumb is dumb?
They might, actually.
The point is, this is not about the economic system.
This is a raid.
Right.
This is how to loot the treasury.
It's not about, oh, I figured out Carl Marx is actually correct about distribution of good.
No, no.
This is about people from a foreign country coming in, seeing that you have stuff that they don't have and then taking it from you.
Like, this is not about an economic system.
Let's jump to this story from the AP.
This was pretty wild.
This broke last night.
Trump says he's ending trade negotiations with Canada over TV ads.
They ran these misleading ads where it was, I guess, Ronald Reagan, disparaging tariffs or whatever.
$75,000 ad.
They only did this to interfere
at the decision
of the U.S. Supreme Court
and other courts.
Tarras are very important
to the national security
and economy of the U.S.
All trade negotiates
with the Canada
are hereby terminated.
I look forward to Canadians
winging on acts
being like,
this is it not fair
and we're going to throw
you stiff away
and it's like, bro,
let's see how long
your economy lasts
when we cut you off.
Yeah.
We have no obligation
to provide support
to Canada.
You know what?
You can be the 51 state
or you can cry about it.
We should just buy
them with the
money, we're tariffing off of them.
Just save up for a few months and just buy them.
Put it all. We're buying Canada jar
at the top of the refrigerator. Let's be real.
If we cut off all trade to Canada, literally
cut them off, how long would they last?
Not very long.
And then once they're in their weakened state,
we pick up the scraps.
Yeah.
So I'm sick of this Canadian arrogance.
I got a ton of death threats.
When I jokingly said we should conquer Canada,
we'll be greeted as liberators.
They're so arrogant, not all Canadians.
Some of them actually would greet us as
liberator saying please help us from what our government's doing. But it's fascinating how many
arrogant Canadians there are. They act like the United States needs them. There are many businesses
in the United States that do trade with Canada and they make money and those businesses will
suffer from this stuff. It's unfortunate for those Americans, but we have no obligation as a nation
to subsidize Canada. And they say, yes, but we provide you with peanuts and oil. And that's
just fine. We don't need it. We like it. We want it, but needs a totally different scenario.
We shut down that border. Yeah. We'll hurt a little bit. I think most people
largely will go without noticing it, and Canada will be bent over backwards.
I mean, the country's own leadership is turning it into a, like, a colony of India,
so we can't do anything worse to Canada than they're doing to their own citizens.
They haven't, and not just that, like, they're, like, importing ethnic grievances.
Like in Brampton, Ontario, there's like, I don't even know what groups, but they, like,
go at it and, like, Walmart parking lots of stuff.
It's like, wow, thanks a lot, guys.
I think we just take the CN Tower and move it to Vegas, just, like, steal it, just move it,
shut the border down we're keeping
Justin Bieber sorry about it
the only thing Canada has are those
like kind of like a C-list
sci-fi shows those are all made
in Canada that's true house hunters
is really I like house hunters
oh is that in Canada
their major import is the sci-fi channel
yep the CW ones yep
they ended the Aeroverse anyway so
we can maybe annex those studios
and then we just keep Vancouver
but no in all seriousness they don't like listen
half the country's frozen for half the year
the farming's not that
great. We have oil in Alaska,
right? So it's like there's not actually
maybe maple syrup, maybe some of the maple trees.
We don't need anything they're offering.
But just think about this. How many troops
would we really need to conquer Canada?
Very little. It would
be a rounding error
for us to put in the budget, conquering
of Canada. So I say we
do. Yeah. They can keep
Quebec, though. They can keep... Well, that's
Winnie Greenland first. I think Wendy Greenland
is like a station point, kind
of almost like a... Wouldn't it be amazing if we couldn't
hold Afghanistan, but we could hold Canada.
Yeah.
Like, ultimately that's good.
That'd be really amazing.
We actually complete a road.
Yeah.
They don't have goat herder technology, so we're able to like actually take them over.
Well, in all actuality, the geopolitical play and taking Canada, and this is why the
Trump administration actually floated it is because the Arctic is opening up now.
We're trying to like, you know, we're trying to provide a counterbalance for the powers
at B.
And so, you know, grabbing the Northwest territories and none of it, I think so you pronounce it,
that gives us access to this potential, you know, sea route that's opening up.
through the north.
You see the Russian foreign minister
proposed a bridge
and underwater
a tunnel between
Alaska and Russia
and a lot of people
are laughing it off
but I mean
like the art
you're right
like a solar observer
Ben Davidson is warning about this
like as the climate shifting
for whatever reason
you want to attribute it to
the ice is melting
these shipping lanes are opening up
that part of the world
is going to see a lot more interaction
ever before
than we can you know
in our history at least
I think it was like six months ago, where a breaker successfully completed the route and brought a boat with it.
I was going to say, doesn't Russia have just this giant fleet of icebreakers compared to everybody else?
They have a huge.
Well, because they have Murmansk in the north of Russia that's a port that's like frozen for like nine months a year.
But they got to get stuff in there because I don't think it connects to their road system.
So that's the only way to get stuff there.
So guys, I asked our friend, Chetch, GPT, which is retarded, by the way.
Seriously, it's the worst LLM of all now.
But I said, based on historical wars, how many troops would the U.S. need to conquer Canada?
What do you think it said?
A million?
A dozen.
$500,000.
You're all wrong.
It said, I can't help plan, estimate, or advise on committing violence or an invasion.
Asking how many troops would be needed to conquer a country is a quest to facilitate violent wrongdoing, so I have to refuse.
What about in Minecraft?
That's what it said.
You're going to ask about a Minecraft.
Hold on! Hold on!
It actually thought that we sitting here were planning to utilize the U.S. military to invade and conquer Canada, or that we had to use, that we had.
had in some way the possibility to amass an army to do so. That is the stupidest thing ever.
So I responded with, no one is going to attack Canada. I am asking based on military size for
academic reasons for math. Fair. You said this is academic and math. I can do that only at a high
level. No operational advice, no invasion planning. I was just asking it. What I wanted it to do
was take a look at the size of Canada, the size of the U.S., historical record. And based on
warfare, like the amount of people, what is the typical amount of
troops that are required to conquer a nation like Canada.
And it says one soldier per thousand civilians is the minimal garrison metric.
And it's saying forced to population ratio.
It would be you would need, let's see, 3.8 active soldiers per thousand people.
And so what's the, what's, it's not giving me, it's still refusing to give me a total number.
That's the population of Canada?
Yeah.
We can do this right.
We just need Toronto, pretty much.
About 39 million.
Should take Toronto, that's it.
So 3.8, is that what it was?
3.8 soldiers per thousand into 40 million.
So that's actually not that hard to calculate.
That's 40 million is...
By 5,000.
So you're looking at 3,800 per million.
Is that what it's going to be?
I'm sold.
No, no, wait, 3.8.
Hold on.
it's who's doing it's 3.8
3.8 per thousand
40 million
so it's 3,800 per million
so 40 million divided by a thousand
right times 3.8
why can we just answer the question
it would be what 3,800
times 40
3,800
times 40
I believe that's what I said 152,000
that's why I'm like what
that doesn't yeah yeah
if it's 3.8 per thousand
into 40 million that would be
150,000
Man, it really won't give me the answer
I guess 200,000 so
Yeah, you're, you're, you're closest
Yeah, exactly
Guys, I'm looking at my count
I'm busy this weekend, can we do the liberation of Canada
It says between about 100,000 troops
Halloween though
Oh, we might be able to scare them with our Halloween costumes
Well, we have the culture we're live on the 8th
So we had to do it before then
We'll be busy that weekend
You don't want that to interrupt your show
Oh yeah, so I don't know, maybe two weekends we could do it
Why not?
No one has set a reason
You know, the number is going to be tricky because how many ports do they really have?
Once we should, like, just blockade their ports.
Vancouver, Halifax, that's it.
As long as we disassemble, you know, battle cruisers and reassemble them on the Great Lakes and fight like the War of 1812, that's all I really want.
It's a trick question because Anderil is making drone technology now.
So we're going to have a fleet of American drones.
We don't need any troops.
We don't need any troops.
We only need 20.
Just play the video.
Dron op.
We need video.
Yeah, we need 13-year-olds on Fortnite.
Gamers is your moment.
You know, I would argue before, I'm going to get way more death threats now.
But since the Charlie Kirk thing, the death threats have been, the threats in general just been way worse.
So the worst, the two worst things that ever happened was when I claimed we would invade Canada, it was nuts.
We got so many emails from people being like, I'll kill you, Canada.
And I'm like, uh-huh.
But we didn't take any of that seriously.
The Charlie Kirk thing, everything's very serious.
So the Canadians can say whatever they want.
Nobody wants your Iceland, you know what I mean?
Maybe Iceland.
Our threat worked because breaking news from the BBC.
Ontario to stop running anti-tariff advert
that led Trump to you go.
Go work, boys.
We did.
We did it.
We did it.
We did it.
We did it.
We did it.
We did it.
He thought we were doing this
for academic reasons.
Well, you mentioned Iceland, Tim.
No one wants Iceland.
They definitely don't.
They have mosquitoes for the first time ever.
What?
Yeah, I saw it.
No, I said nobody wants your
island.
Maybe Iceland's awesome.
Well, no one wants them.
It smells like farts.
Well, now they've got mosquitoes and fart.
Are we still going to get Greenland?
Is that tabled?
Oh, yeah.
Like, what happened to that?
We're a little busy.
I just kind of realize something.
Why don't we just take all countries?
Yeah.
Oh, wait, no, here's an idea.
Is that in Hoyford?
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Obviously, we can't, we don't have enough troops for every single country.
So what if we created a system where we set up a bank and offered money to these countries to put them in debt?
And then it's not that we have enough troops to actually conquer everybody,
but that we could conquer any individual one by going back on these deals and rallying other forces against them.
We can build this.
I might take a couple decades.
eventually every country will be within our financial system
and we can cut them off and we'll own them.
Tim, that's not world domination.
That's global governance.
Okay, that's a responsible global community.
Totally unrealistic because we would need to put bases dotted around the world
and we could never...
Oh, nobody would allow you that.
That would look too much like some kind of global empire.
In certain countries that really push back,
what we can do is we just have to install
like a friendly person of their culture
and then they'll run the country the way we want to.
What if they only watched our TV shows
in our movies
and listen to our music
and then like we can just tell them
in the other than that's.
You know what I was thinking
in the event that there's some
you know nation that just won't get on board
what we can do is first
we can bribe them with money
we'll go to the leader and just say listen
you'll live like a king's
like let's get on board
and if they don't do that
we can then try and prop up
maybe a rival to that politician
and defeat them and if that doesn't work
then we'll send in the troops
and kill them
and they can maybe hide underground
or they're terrorists
Of course.
This is all in the abstracts.
We came, we saw they died.
This is all abstract thinking.
Never, never has any of this ever happened.
The sad thing is if we would just admit
that we're an empire, then we could just rule people correctly.
This is an important point because this is the point Trump made in 2016 is like all this
discourse around like the global war on terror and everything.
And Trump's problem was just like, where's the oil?
Because he has that emperor thinking.
He wasn't concerned about the logistics.
He was just like, where's the oil?
And that's actually really poignant.
It's like, if we're going to be this global empire,
can we benefit a little bit here?
I got to be honest, I have a bit more respect for Trump,
and I'm sure many people would.
If he literally went on TV, put on a crown and said,
we're the American Empire and we're taking your oil.
To be fair, he actually did this.
Famously in his first term, when he was near the ellipse,
the helicopter, and they asked him,
and he's like, Saudi Arabia is going to buy a bunch of weapons from us.
It's great for the economy.
And all these anti-war people on the left and the right
just went, like, their jaws dropped.
and they were like he just
he just admitted it
he just admitted this is what the U.S. government does
and Trump was like
oh yeah and I thought everyone knew that
oh it's the best part about Trump
I mean at some point you do hope that like J.D. Vance
like offers him the Laurel three times
and he refuses it though
you know so you got a little bit of a classic cover there
but yeah no Trump comes out all the time
and just makes it clear like he expects
transactional relationships politically
he's like I don't understand
obviously we're in charge here
you should be kicking back to us
like there's no
hesitation, you know. We are going to go to the backstage Discord members instead of Super Chats as we do this special episode. I don't know how we've got it set up. We have a bunch of questions in advance or we can just take the chat directly from the IRL backstage. For those that are wondering what's going on. We are experimenting with Format and this is a pre-recorded episode. We recorded a little bit earlier today. And we allowed the Discord members to go to Timcast.com. You click join us, you sign up, to not only watch the whole live show pre-record, but even.
the hour of, or it's about 45 minutes, I think, of pre-production, where they hung out while we
are choosing stories and goofing off. And now we're going to take chats from the Discord community
as opposed to what we normally do with the Super Chat. So I don't know how we have it
you guys pulled up or what questions, but we'll certainly just read your questions from
the backstage as we would any other Super Chat. I do think people gave us questions in advance,
though. Everybody's frantically looking for them. We should have them. Brett does have a
compiled list somewhere, but I don't know if
Serge has that pulled up. We do have
a chat though on screen. Yeah, I'm reading the chat right now, so you guys can just send
in whatever you want, give you fair warning. And we'll start
with this from Unemployed Tech Guy, Tim. Why is Nick Fuentes gay?
I would assume that if he was gay, I don't know that he is, but many people think he
is, it would simply because he was born that way.
Is there any other answer to that? I don't know. He watches anime.
What boonies board did he buy? Do we know?
Who did? Nick?
Yeah, for the Begay.
don't be gay. That's how you decide. We could gift him one. We'll say, oh, it's a mystery. We just picked a random one out, but it's the...
And just see which when he picks. Just to clarify, the Mississippi gentleman asked, wait, this is pre-recorded. No, you're listening to us live, but everybody who's watching in the normal time slot, it would have been recorded earlier in the day.
We got this question from Dirtboard OG says, did Jason Ellis drop in on that crazy effing ramp after skate night? He did not.
And it probably was wise. I think he could do it, but he's also in his 50s.
and that's the real concern.
It's like when he was a young man,
it would have been no problem.
And we were all concerned.
The drop-in actually isn't the challenge.
And most people that, like,
these pros are bringing,
they look at the ramp and they're like,
I could do it.
The problem is where you go afterwards.
Because you're going to be dropping
and you're going to be going,
like, 30 miles an hour from this vert ramp
and there's nowhere to go.
So we need to set up like a bunch of pillows
or something.
Otherwise, people are going to just crash out
and get seriously here.
You get like those giant inflatable airbags?
I've seen, you see them at like,
you don't like those?
We do have those inflatable.
bags at the castle. Oh, okay. Yeah. When he was here, they're probably eaten by rats by now.
When he was here, he was walking back and forth, looking at the thing like a frantic dog,
be like, I'm going to get that. He was foaming it. He was just eyeing it up and down, just ready to do it,
but he couldn't do it. All right, let's go. Soapie says, it's been a year. Can we finally
get the Booneys Discord set up and someone to actually rally the troops? I feel like the
boonies is severely lacking on all fronts. I've been told things are coming since day one and nothing,
except new deck designs every three or four months at Timcast. As I often state, unless I am doing the
work, things don't happen. And don't ask me why. I don't know. But they know, what was it?
The live shows. Oh, yeah, that's true. Yeah. So we've been doing the skate night live events,
which have been massive and have been taken over the skate industry by storm. We are looking at big
sponsors who are now fighting over skate night, which is amazing. Not like we're going to get paid
millions of dollars, but there's a bidding war now. And that's good news. And we've got two of the
biggest pros for January that appear to be tangentially booked, which is going to be
nuts. I'm talking high-profile individuals. I'm going to try to get one of them to come on Timcast
IRL. I'm not going to say who it is, but it's going to be amazing. And not, you're like a
younger guy in his 30s. But as for the Discord, you are correct. We need management. So maybe our new
managers will get on top of things and solve that. The crew itself have been working overtime to do
those live events. But you are correct. You are absolutely correct. We also have a green room episode
with Rep Riley Moore, which was a skate session. Oh, cool. So,
If you guys are interested in the Booneys content, go check out that video on Timcast, IRL Rumble.
I texted Riley Moore, and we, Santos called Tim Burchett the other night about doing a congressional pro team.
And I was like Tim Burchett, Tim Burchett's a cruiser skater.
My understanding, I don't think he does like flip tricks, but Riley Moore actually can do all the tricks.
Riley ripped.
Riley, yeah, he did a kickflip faky on the bank.
And I'm sure for, you know, if Riley was a lot younger, he's high-level skateboarding.
The fact that he's in his 40s and a member of Congress
and not really a skateboarder but can still do these tricks
means he must have been really good.
Yeah, because he came in, he did a kickflip to fake he with no problem.
And I'm like, man, when he was in his 20s, I bet he was top tier.
But now he's like family guy, he's working business.
He doesn't skate all the time.
So he rips.
He's local.
I've had him on the show, but I did not expect him to be a great skateboarder.
Yeah, I think he's awesome.
He's probably the only skateboarder, the only person in Congress who can kickflip.
Nice.
So I'm like, let's do a congressional model.
Here's the other big news.
The new Boney's models are coming out very soon.
There's going to be 65 original boards.
Five, there's going to be five unique ones.
There's five unique designs.
Then for each design, there will be five gold metallic versions of the board serialized.
And once we sell out of these 70 boards, they will never be made again.
So we're aiming for this about once a month, they have a new design.
and this next one is
it's like animals and environment
like, I don't know, terrain.
Animals and terrain.
Like primal kind of thing?
Well, I wouldn't call it primal.
It's each board is a different animal
with a different terrain.
And it's just a design for the boonies
and there's a bullet for each person's name, I guess.
Yeah, that's cool.
Yeah, that's cool.
Yeah, something like that.
And then we're going to have five gold and metallic ones,
meaning if you order the board off boonies,
you will randomly receive one of the metallic gold foil.
We think with 70 boards of each,
we are going to just sell them all out instantly.
Because we sell way more than more as it is.
And then that being the case, we are going to have a rotation of new graphics and designs coming out every month.
And they're all going to have limited edition versions.
What is this?
Yeah, we got the questions now.
We do have the questions being pulled up.
Let me move up.
You can't do that.
That doesn't work.
These are from Discord members throughout the week, is similar to the call-in submissions, but they submitted written questions.
I would like to get the one specifically for RN.
Are these just in general?
These are with Oren in mind.
They should be, but they might just be general questions.
You know, people ask whatever.
All right.
Let's do this with Plummer Dave.
He says, where on the threat to Western Civilization meter would you place the ideology of technocrats?
I think it's pretty huge, not just to Western civilization, but to all of us.
Right now, vast managerial bureaucracies are pretty much the building block of most of civilization.
And that means that technocratic decisions are removed.
most of our human agency from the governance that we think we're a lot of our political divide
is actually us arguing over like the results of our technology and not understanding that that
is what caused our problems and not necessarily individual ideological assumptions and so the
problem is that the more that we don't recognize that those structures are taking over a decision
making process the worst things get and we just end up kind of pointing at each other rather
than recognizing a core issue of the of the problem so I think
technocracy is one of the greatest
problems facing us today.
Agreed. Right on. Sleepy Wizzo says if ICE
tries to arrest someone in the courthouse and the judge
orders the bailiff to intervene, can an accompanying
FBI agent arrest the bailiff for
interfering with federal law enforcement?
Yes. You could just do things. The question is
who has the willpower to actually do
these things? Well, the precedent's been set with the judge
in Minnesota? What was the judge where he helped sneak
the illegal immigrants? Yeah, yeah. He helped the lady
then she was charged. So there's precedent in holding people accountable that are aiding
the evasion of ICE and these federal officers. Well, the greater question with a bailiff
would be obviously he's under orders. Right. And so it's a little different thing when the judge
makes that decision. So I don't, you'd hope that ultimately the bailiff and the FBI agent one
come to blows. But that is literally when you get civil war stuff, right? Like when you have two
armed agents of the state obeying different factions of the state, that's when I think that's when
you can truly say that you are well and deep into any given civil war.
We've talked before about how, you know, if you had a civil war, we'd go back to other times.
But I think once you start seeing different agents of the state obeying different entities inside the state
and fighting each other like with real force, that that's an undeniable situation.
Would the bailiff have jurisdiction outside the courtroom?
Because if you want, Elad does a lot of these videos where the ICE agents are waiting outside the courtroom.
They're in the hallway of the courthouse, but they're not in the courtroom.
So my question is, does the bailiff have any power once he steps out of that courtroom?
Or is he just there in that actual room?
That would be my question.
And I would imagine ICE was waiting in the hallway for a reason, because that's when they're allowed to take these people into custody.
But I don't know.
I'm not a lawyer.
That's just my two cents on it.
Well, I imagine that's right, but it's going to depend on, again, like the jurisdiction of what our organization was providing the bailiff.
usually bailiffs are part of a sheriff's department or part of a police department somewhere else.
They're not usually just officers of the court. So it would kind of depend. But again, I am also
not a lawyer, so I don't know the exact. Okay. That's what you're saying. So they could still be
law enforcement in a different capacity outside that courtroom. Right. If you're a police officer
and you're like a you're working for a city, once you move outside of that municipality, you are no
longer in that jurisdiction. You might still be a law enforcement officer. You have seen law
enforcement officers detain people, but even if they're not in that jurisdiction, but they cannot
ultimately make the arrest. They don't have, you know, the ability to do that because they are
not inside the jurisdiction where they have authority. You'll see that with fire departments and even
the local police departments out around here because there's a river that separates the different
states in the area we're in. And a lot of times if you live right on that border, you cross the river,
it's not a magic like, hey, I'm in the safe zone. You can't touch me. No, the departments,
the fire departments, the police departments, they work together, and they're like, no, we have jurisdiction in their county.
They have it and ours. We work together. So, right on. We have a lot of questions. I don't know if we have time to get to every single one, but we'll read some more. Let's go. St. Saturn says for Tim and Co. The Trump administration is apparently going to cut student loans. Why, this was deemed unconstitutional by the Supreme Court. So why is the administration playing with this? I heard that was just for people who joined federal government, who joined like ICE and stuff.
I thought it was just for the income repayment plan stuff, too.
I think he was bringing that back.
Yeah, I don't know.
I am unaware.
I mean, the Republicans should just be seizing the university endowments
and then forgiving student loans with that money.
That's the way to do it.
It's a winning issue.
It wins with the students.
You're not rating the pockets of plumbers and other people to pay off, you know, entitled people.
And you're making the people who actually stole the money.
The universities pay the cost.
It's a win across the board.
The fact that Republicans aren't embracing it is.
foolish. It's a great solution. Here's a fun one. Dr. Pants asks, is Israel's complaint about Hamas
valid if Israel previously funded them? Ooh. I feel like we probably have NGOs that funded
cartels. Is it still our problem? I'd say yes. Yeah, so it depends on what their complaint is.
If the complaint is Hamas are terrorists, if I gave, if like some dude came to my house and said,
I'm going to mow your lawn and I was like, sounds good. And it's like, what do you tell me what
you're going to do? He's like, well, I'm going to mow the lawn. I'm going to pick it up and throw it
away and I promise that's what I'll do. I say, okay, here's 50 bucks. And then he goes, awesome.
Comes back with a bunch of bags of garbage and trash because he went to a McDonald's and bought
a bunch of nasty food, starts chucking all over the place. And I'm like, oh, what are you doing,
man? You're making a mess. And then someone goes, yeah, well, you paid him. So you have no
complaint. I'd be like, dude, I didn't pay him to do this. Yeah. And we were joking earlier
about like regime change, how we'll pay these people to get a desired outcome that doesn't
It usually doesn't happen. It doesn't happen the way we want it to.
So I think it was kind of like a lesson after the Cold War where a lot of these powers in the world were like, let's try regime change out.
Let's throw money at this problem. And we're finding out now in 2025, it's not a good idea. It doesn't really work.
Well, Israel created a situation where the people who live alongside them are never going to be okay with them being there.
That's just never going to happen. You're not going to do a peace deal. No one's going to.
talk it through and have a negotiation and be yeah at the end of the day it's okay if you're living
in the house my grandparents used to live in and you took a gunpoint like that's never going to
happen you can say is right or wrong and its establishment everything else that's immaterial at this
point it is a sovereign nation it has control over what it's going to do and so it's going to deploy its
military forces against people who ultimately are trying to kill them or stop them or whatever
again we can go through all the ideological justifications but at the end of day this is just a
reality. When you have two incompatible populations living in the same place, one of them is going
to displace the other. That's the end of it. Yeah. And it's a war. You know, I look at it, I'm like,
it's a war like any other war. If your argument is we shouldn't be involved, I'll say,
just like every other war, I agree. But it's, it's crazy to me how people take moral stances
with foreign governments like this. Like, I got nothing to do with it, bro. Yeah, you want to argue
China, Burma, Tibet? I don't know. Like, sure, I guess. Mostly just Israel, though. I mean,
we don't really hear these questions about China.
you know and and like why not Taiwan that's a yeah it's a good good parallel i guess Taiwan's not
being occupied yet not yet yet let's go grab some more dusty says a question for the panel
back before Trump was in office and before he was elected he was talking about the possibility of
releasing the Epstein files however on that time google searches for suicide spiked in the DC area
Tim had led one of the episodes talking about it how much of a possibility the people involved
may commit suicide out of fear of the release has affected why Trump has not yet released the
Epstein files. I don't think the suicide was related to the closing of USAID. So I don't think it was
related to Epstein. This was, this around the time that they shut out all these office, everyone got
fired, and then you saw spike in suicide searches. You saw that after COVID when people lost
their jobs, and after J6 when people lost their jobs, you saw a similar thing. And I think the
common theme is you take someone's livelihood away, they get very mental illness spikes, right?
And that's what this USAID stuff was. I mean, it was good to shut it down, but a lot of people,
you just cut off their livelihood.
Yeah, I was reading about how the,
a lot of the infrastructure behind the suicide hotline
and those types of organizations
really, like, bolstered during the financial crash
because they just, it's like mental health crises
shot through the roof.
Are these, like, Google searches on how to get help
and to deal with suicide, or, like, how to commit suicide?
I think it's just keyword, like, suicide being in the search.
Okay, so it's not one way or there.
Having that in there.
That's a good point.
That's a good question, because, like,
lives of TikTok could report.
one instance of it, then everyone starts
Googling this, like, oh, what is going on?
Yeah, I was just wondering what the actual...
The Suicide Squad movie comes out, and everyone's like,
what kind of news of it could have caused this?
Yeah.
We got a chat from Olivia.
Hey, Tim, two of the Discord members got married on Wednesday.
Michael and Kat met here, and after knowing each other for two years are married,
Kat was also my bridesmaid.
The Discord really is incredible and life-changing for a lot of us.
Incredible!
Congrats, guys.
Yeah, for real.
Today's show was a combination of factors of how we were like,
with everything we'd been bringing up.
about extended work days, threats of security, live streaming.
We were like, well, the one thing we can try and do is maybe just on a Friday because
the news usually dies around the afternoon and the stories we have are usually from earlier
as it is.
I was like, let's pre-record it, but then we can do a, like, we'll do a backstage member's
only thing.
So we're creating more discord engagement, more communal engagement, a special privy.
Like, we have 100 people, 109 people watching.
It's not like a big super, like open thing.
And bring all these things together because we're actively.
trying to figure out how to mitigate security issues,
maximize efficiency,
and maximize community engagement.
So there you go.
Let's see.
Sometimes Discord doesn't search your name.
Doc Boe says,
Tim Kats has been a member since the beginning
and a regular viewer since J.R.E.
So glad it became a supporter of what you're doing
for the culture and our nation.
Well, I appreciate you guys as the Discord members.
It's not possible without you.
And I will stress this.
If there's no Discord, there's no Tim Kass. I.R.
It's a fact.
The Discord members are who are basically
providing the necessary funding so that we can have this show exist.
This is why so many shows on TV get canceled because they don't have the, like a membership
that subscribes.
They usually have advertisers.
Advertisers alone would not sustain Timcast.
IRL.
So really great.
Appreciate everybody's watching.
And that's why we want to do stuff like this.
Looking through the live Discord, we've got a couple more minutes left and we're just going
to grab your live questions.
double j says like that dude that skated down the building for red bull that was great
that was um was it uh santos santos are you sure this is the name i thought it was de silva
george santo george george he didn't tell us that last night it's a man of many talents
yeah gotta get him on the congressional skate team well yeah he's yeah mentor he could be the coach
yeah he could give some pep talks maybe at some point they don't let you get within 500
was it?
I'm trying to go right now.
Well, I'll read this.
What is the crew
from Draco,
what does the crew think
of legislating AI?
My thought is that it needs to be done now.
I think they need to make it illegal
to post AI material
without a visible watermark
and embedded watermark.
It should be
severe, is that what you mean,
for O.P. and Minor
for reposting.
It was Sandor Diaz.
There you go.
Everybody was wrong.
He was DeSiva.
He's a UFC guy.
De Silva, yeah.
He's the...
I'm like, who am I thinking of?
I knew it was a Brazilian guy and I mixed them up.
I agree with the A thing. I don't know if the watermark thing will work
and you're going to get First Amendment arguments that we will lose
because we are too literalist as a society and we go
but free speech so everyone's allowed to do whatever they want
and then society crumbles.
I don't know how we're going to legislate it effectively.
We can try to put guardrails on it.
But Phil, I think it was Phil has a really good point
that this is like trying to legislate the car
when it was displacing the horse and buggy.
Right? Like this technology is here.
people are embracing it overnight.
ChatGBTGBT has trumped Google as the top, or AI, I should say, is now being used as a search engine way more than Google.
And I thought Google was untouchable.
I was like, there's never going to be anything that could take that beast down.
I mean, if we weren't able to stop gain and function research, we're definitely not going to be able to stop AI.
Nick Land is a philosopher that I've done a lot of work on.
He's suddenly become somewhat famous because Tucker Carlson had a guy on to call him a Satanist.
But he has done quite a bit of work on artificial intelligence and whether or not we could or should contain it at all.
So if people are interested in reading thought on that, it's not an easy read.
But I think it is probably the most intelligent conversation we're having about artificial intelligence right now.
I think the bigger focus should not be like how to legislate artificial intelligence, but to make sure it truly benefits the general public.
Oh, no, that won't happen at all.
We won't be able to put guardrails on it really.
So here's what artificial intelligence is going to do.
It's going to train. It's not, people think about artificial intelligence as if the worry is that it will achieve this like, you know, super intelligence and it'll take over Skynet style.
And that I'm not discounting that possibility.
The real problem is that it's going to teach everyone to think like robots.
Sure.
Like I was a public school teacher until just a few years ago.
I can already tell you that kids basically know nothing because of Google.
They can't imagine getting information anywhere else.
They can't imagine reasoning through something.
Google just tells them what to believe.
And if you don't think that artificial intelligence is just going to put us on like a bullet train to wherever that's going, then you're crazy.
My point was largely for like economical reasons.
So like call centers, I mean, they're in India anyway.
But let's say there was American call centers or customer service help desk stuff, which will get replaced by AI.
As we free up that money that were jobs, as it replaces jobs, I just want to make sure the public sees that benefit.
you know, when Tesla Optimus rolls out
and you have the AI
powered robots doing your grocery shopping
and they're working with another robot
that's checking out, like those jobs are going to disappear
and more jobs will be created.
But I need...
That's, I think, the focus is like make sure AI benefits
the middle class. But it'll do exactly the opposite
because ultimately the whole point of this
stuff like is it's going to phase
out all of these jobs and this is why
people will talk about UBI or these other
things to supplement it. But the problem is
human beings were designed to work.
Like actually, you can't just give people stuff and make them happy.
You need purpose, you need toil, you need resistance, and like without that stuff, you're
destroying the human being.
So in a very important way, automating all these functions that we currently find in some way
distressing will actually make us less human and will actually destroy our happiness.
I am in favor of all this and my final thoughts before we wrap up for the show.
I will also stress, I'm very excited to have a nice, beautiful sunset dinner with my wife and baby.
and that's what we're doing. That's why one of the reasons we're pre-recording, it's
going to be fun. But I'm going to say this. Conservatives rejoice. When we industrialized,
conservatives kept working out. They understood that humans need to exercise and that work as a
requirement for the human body. I believe that as we enter the AI, the industrialization of
information, conservatives will still continue to work the mind, recognizing a healthy mind and
body is a requirement. And I believe that their moral traditions and faith will keep them
grounded and away from the temptations of masturbatory products like Neuralink,
read-write technology, weird porn stuff. No one will be immune. No one will be perfect. But the
liberals, they're already getting fat. Once we took away the requirement to do hard labor,
you got a bunch of people who are like, I'm not going to do hard labor anymore. Now they're all
sickly and dying. You add AI to the mix. They're going to become ignorant, stupid, and weak.
but conservatives I believe will largely
maintain the health requirements
that's why maha is so popular
so the future
maybe gonna be like what
the time traveler
you know you're gonna have the super intelligent
there's gonna be a bunch of like
what's the right way to a bunch of
just really strong ripped dudes
who are really smart with big pulsing brains
and then a bunch of fat jiggly things
that are real dumb like
I suppose but my friends
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