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Is yours not set up or what's going on uh yeah i just put the thing
it's like none of these are i don't know what's going on with it welcome to the late show i'm
gonna drink and eat into the microphone in in total disrespect to our audience because i'm
barely paying attention sorry about that oh it's the first members only show of 2024 uh
how spicy should we get as spicy as you want to retard retard
level spicy retard is fully back on the menu oh i've been tweeting retard like crazy yeah
somebody somebody was talking shit and i i said something like was retarded and they were like
you're dumb honestly i just wanted to tweet retarded i just needed excuses to do it i think
i was talking about desantis or something i've
been slipping into just normal conversations outside of twitter just in the real world
yeah it's fun watching people's faces and like oh wow you can say that again like yes
remember that joke that woman said when she was like i got in trouble for calling i homeless
and she was like i didn't call my house retard
that was really good yeah and i was like wow like and then someone commented being like you didn't
have to use the r word or whatever to make a joke and i'm just like oh fuck off but dave
chappelle was saying because he did though dave chappelle was saying that's why he got attacked
because he calls it retard he made a joke about homeless people and lgbt so a gay homeless guy
tried to murder him he said he was a b and that the post said he was an alleged attacker
and chappelle goes he was a definitely attacker but he was allegedly gay and he looked at it and
goes he was bisexual i could have been raped he was like i could have been raped and he was like
i'd like to see he kept calling everybody n word i'm not allowed to see it we're not that edgy oh
come on let's hear it i'm not gonna repeat this repeat Dave Schmell. Sorry. But he said, what was I going to say now?
And I'm forgetting.
Talking about getting attacked.
He said, I want to see that dude suck a dick before I accept that he's a bisexual.
Yeah.
Because the media was making it Dave the bad guy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He said he got six weeks more bad press for saying that the gun identified it as a knife
or the other way around.
Because it was a knife. It was a fake gun that concealed a blade yeah so there was a knife identified as a
gun and they attacked him for it but uh let's let's let's do this that's that is fun shit but
i really want to talk about the story that we saw uh from daily mail why are gen z aging so
differently to millennials experts reveal pressure to use wrong skincare too young
vaping and getting botox in their 20s means younger generation look older than those in
their 30s you know everybody always talks about how um like in movies 30 year olds look super old
like like back in the day like 90s movies like how is it that this guy who was 30 at the time
looks like he's 50 by today's standards you know what i mean and i wonder if it is actors were getting a lot of work done back in the day so that they
didn't age well into it and it made him look old plus there was lead and gasoline and a lot of
smoking and boozing now what's happening is take a look at this they got some actually some good
pictures here uh where they're like look at this 22 year old versus 34 year old taylor swift and i i mean she
does kind of look she looks older it's kind of weird also her eyes are crooked which is kind of
weird but you know i don't want to be mean because i look she is dead maybe she's just she does she
looked like you know she did but uh the millie bobby brown one's crazy yo she looks 47 i don't
know about 47 she definitely definitely looks totally banger,
but like she still does look Millie Bobby Brown.
She's 19 by the way.
Wow.
Millie Bobby Brown is really looks like a 47 year old woman trying to look
19.
Yup.
I didn't realize she was 19.
Welcome to the members only everybody.
She does look older than 19.
That proves it. That proves it phil did
not know how young she was yeah i didn't know i thought she was older see that's a funny thing
how old do you think she was i thought she was like 25 right and so she looks older and so you're
like she looks like she's 25 and you were wrong she's 19 hey still legal but still creepy too
young yeah it's weird that they've
they've been hyper sexualizing the girls like that at like she's not disney but it's disney
adjacent because it's netflix i'm i still i i go for 25 because of the whole cranium thing there
are the the brain yeah development thing this one's not fair jack harlow looks like he could
be 25 he does look like he could be a little older but uh the guy on the right brody sangster looks like he's seven he does what is that i mean thomas brody saying i don't
know what that is is that an oompa loompa does he have that i don't know what that is no he's
benjamin button he's like six three i think what no curious case of benjamin button i don't know
who that is on the right but she looks horrible um that's uh amelia dime she's a youtuber she
has like i don't know these people i mean bro she's 22 to 29 it's not like that big of a difference
but uh yeah like dude um what's her face lord everybody commented how she's 17 going on 50
sam marsh you mean yeah yeah true she's 17 going on 50 she looks so old uh but
basically what they're arguing is that gen z today because like look at this because of the
filters on snapchat they're getting surgery they're getting crazy ass surgery and vaping
and drugs and other crazy ass shit it's making them look weird yeah i wonder how many like young
women went and got butt implants because of the kardashians then
took them out and now we're getting like the the cheekbones removed and stuff it's just hold on
jtr demon slayer says lmao do y'all realize you're just shitting on women's looks right now bro we
just made fun of a guy for looking like a seven-year-old come on guys are included in this
we are equal opportunity offenders shout out to Dave Chappelle. So what if we were?
Yeah, yeah.
Phil, women are dumb.
It's not women are dumb.
It just so happens that we were making jokes about these people.
They happen to be women.
Quit crying.
We'll make fun of men.
It's not like we don't crap on men.
Yeah, men are so dumb.
Good grief. crap on men yeah men are so dumb good grief yeah but what you dude dave chappelle had uh
it's such a fucking great joke he said that he thought his wife was cheating on him
so he took her phone and he went downstairs while she was sleeping and tried to put on the pass
cords it wasn't wasn't working and he's like and then i realized it's got it's it's iphone
it's got facial recognition well my wife's asian someone like this and then it opened right up now i'm allowed to laugh because i'm asian no one else and then
late he dude he it's just this is a master class and punching in every direction possible
like just just getting everybody in the joke so beautiful he then goes up he's talking to his wife
and he's like who's this guy and she's like
he's gay and he's like what he's like i'm looking at looking at the texts from this guy and i'm like
his mouth is open in a lot of pictures yeah he's gay you can just tell right he's like moving around
the way he's moving around holding his arms and then he's like all of a sudden she pulls my phone
out from under her pillow and then uh she opens it up and i'm like how'd you open my phone and she goes all i had to do
was mash my nose so he's somewhere he gets it god it's so good it's great i mean i've watched it
three times now it's a problem but like i'm i'm a i'm obsessed with the trajectory of his stories
if you watch it in the way he tells a story and like he's sometimes i throw away jokes i come back
it's just beautifully written and that's i i can't watch it uh without seeing something new each time but i'm a nerd you
know and there's not a lot of people i'll do that for but he's one of the very few people when they
drop something i really need to see what they have to say about the world um even though i don't agree
with everything he jokes about like i don't have to i just like his perception yeah i think that
if we don't win the culture war, I'm meeting Beltong over here.
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The younger
generation is going to be a bunch of carrots,
dolphins, and rabbit people because the transing is just going to go a bunch of carrots dolphins and rabbit people
because the trans thing is just going to go off the fucking charts so it's like furries but
surgically done that's what that's what we're getting so there's there is i think there is
room in the future for augmentation i do think that we need a society that I think that most of our problems
could be solved if society
in and of itself, not the government, but if
society in and of itself just decided
you know what, we're going to focus
on things that are good for families.
The government should promote
things that are good for families,
but they won't.
So, as we all know,
Mickey Mouse is now public domain.
Let me pull up Luke's tweet, because one of the members on the show. I tweeted as we all know, Mickey Mouse is now public domain. Yeah.
Let me pull up Luke's tweet, because one of the members on the show.
I tweeted, all that remains took the audio for a song called The Greatest Generation.
And we put that with the stream.
It's on Twitter now?
It's on Twitter.
I'm sorry.
I'm going to give a shout out to Luke Rutkowski of We Are Change.
You know, we sell shirts.
We sell merch.
But I've got to give credit where credit is due.
Because Luke just posted a t-shirt of Steamboat willie saying the covid vaccine makes you gay
luke i luke i died laughing when when tim showed me this earlier i could not believe it
i thought he was gonna make one where it was mickey saying 9-11 was an inside job
but he made one says it's mickey saying the covid vaccine makes you gay so good i like it i forgot what i was talking about what were we talking about before this
why did i bring up mickey mouse i lost gen z we have to win the culture war oh yeah yeah yeah
okay now i remember think about how easy it is to make like a t-shirt like this public domain stuff
but anyway what i was thinking about is like so when i saw this i immediately was like oh shit we can do steamboat willie now it's public domain
so i went on to disc i went up to mid journey which is on discord and i typed in a bunch of
crazy ass shit i wanted to see steamboat willie do and i got some weird fucked up shit i was like
you can't tell mid journey to to make Steamboat Willie murder people.
It'll be like, no, it's against the guidelines.
So what you got to do is something like Steamboat Willie in his kitchen with his steak knife for dinner.
Surrounded by sleeping men with red paint all over them.
And guess what?
It'll show you a picture of a knife wielding nikki mouse and a bunch of
bodies on the ground covered in blood amazing i started thinking to myself i'm like dude
the fact that you can we're almost to video we're doing simple ai video like uh remember that um
ave azura dude who made that the capital ai movie i don't think i do no you you didn't see this i don't know
shut the fuck up sounds like some post-reality shit bro as a altar huh
yo dude this guy is just the capital of conformity you didn't see this one no
you you didn't watch this i haven't seen this either oh should we watch it yeah it's two
minutes all right we're gonna watch it. Yes, you.
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So, if you're up for it... That's sufficiently creepy.
That just looks like a documentary, honestly.
He's got a sequel, but there's two points to be made,
the reason why I brought it up,
but if you hadn't seen it, you've got to watch it.
The first is, he made that all with AI.
So this is video. It's simple video
because it is weird. It looks
kind of like a nightmare sequence.
But the point he makes about the dreams machine
got me thinking, man,
three years.
Three years, I think, to where
we're at the point where you'll take your Oculus,
put the headset on,
turn on voice text and go,
video of a man saving a woman from a burning building,
and then you're watching a VR view of this AI generated perfectly.
Not like this, like an actual video.
Think about how crazy it starts to
get where i i i don't think that's three years and i think that that scenario is like a year
where you can actually just type in the video you want and ai generate it but i think within
three years we're at the point where you're like uh generate a world where, give me a scenario where I'm in New York on New Year's Eve, Times Square.
It'll have all the video data.
The AI will just have compiled it all.
It'll know exactly what New Year's looked like.
And it will create a VR real time of New Year's Eve in New York on 2023.
And you'll be controlling and walking around.
And there'll be people all over the place.
There'll be AI generated people. And you'll be able and walking around. And there'll be people all over the place. There'll be AI generated people.
And you'll be able to interact with them.
They'll be speaking English and talking.
And giving you stories.
You'll walk up to someone and be like, hey, what are you doing here?
And they'll be like, oh, I'm visiting from Dubuque, man.
I've never been in New York before.
Great to meet you.
AI can already generate all this stuff.
Within five or ten years, you're at the point where you can, like outside of Neuralink, you will have the VR headset and you will play any video game you can think of.
And we're years away from that.
Your brain will be the Nintendo Switch.
The Dreams machine they mentioned in this.
Bro, people are going to see that photo of Phil Labonte opening for Metallica and they're going to be like.
I want to do that.
Yep.
Render me a video of me on stage opening for Metallica and they're going to be i want to do that yep render me a video of me on stage
opening for metallica and they're gonna and they're gonna be there and they're gonna be
singing and they're gonna be like fuck the world bro why should i struggle to try and succeed in
any industry in music in podcasting when i can put on this headset and have people talk to me
adoring fans they can you can actually be like i want to know
what it's like to be insert famous rapper like i want to be yay on stage and they'll actually take
a yay concert because they have the video footage and then you're there in real time and you get to
be him i can't help but wonder if ai or or this kind of technology is the great filter.
Right?
Like, any society that can sufficiently master technology to be able to travel interstellar,
you know, to do interstellar travel, they have to have been able to.
This is one of the answers to Fermi's paradox.
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.
That the quote, let me see if I can look can look this up you know why why go search the stars
when you can have everything that you want yeah you know on your home planet well i value the
real world and the risk that comes along with it you know like i don't see any value in the fake
you know applause or exploration through that unless it's like but
then you can say a book is like that too but the book is you're living in the real world processing
something instead of living it through the fake world i think damn the point i can't find this
quote but uh there's some scientists who said if man ever shakes hands with aliens it will not be
because we overcame nuclear weapons but because we overcame
the xbox yeah so this is a question about fermi's paradox and the great filter where we blow
ourselves up no we don't blow ourselves up we masturbate to death i think we're there now like
uh yeah watching that reminded me of the picture that like people like Cerno were sharing recently where everyone's filming the fireworks.
Maybe it was in China.
New Year's Eve.
New Year's Eve, right?
It was in France.
Everyone's got a phone out.
And that reminded me of how it was.
I was very late to having a smartphone.
All my friends had smartphones.
So they were all, I had an Nokia with no camera for years and they all had cameras.
I remember going out with them in those early years with those.
They were reliving
the moments that we were living at the moment we were living them right because they take a picture
and we're all just like staring at the pictures on the phone i'm like yo we're here in the real
world though and then that just turned into like now we're in full-blown nostalgia world where
everyone isn't living in like the dream machine more or less with instagram or facebook or
whatever platform you use your phone is just like a uh uh like a
time time portal time capsule of your memories now imagine how long until neural link and then
we've talked about it quite a bit but i'm telling you man once people can get neural link they will
get neural link i don't care what anybody tells you they will people are going to be like i wouldn't
do it they'll fucking do it two seconds absolutely you're like bro anything you've ever wanted to experience is readily available you
want to go to the moon you go to the moon install the neural link and then you can plug in and tell
the ai exactly what you want do you want how about this one you go to work your boss is mean to you and you're like man i just wish i could plug in norlink say all right generates my office it's at the waxen factory we uh on 349 west
lakeview street and uh the time is 3 p.m i'm working there my boss is this person the ai can
pull up all that data and norlink you and then you're back there at
work and then you get up on your desk and go screw you boss i quit and then you knock things over and
it feels so good and then you unplug and you go that felt good the early stages of that phase of
neural link where you could go and do anything you want there's gonna be people doing arson and
killing people and at some point i'd imagine into the later later phase they're gonna say
that's a thought crime turn off his neural link you imagine into the later phase, they're gonna say, that's a thought crime,
turn off his neural link, he can't be doing that.
No, they're gonna say, yes, do more
because you're in your isolated world.
This is what the World Economic Forum hopes for.
All the useless eaters will plug their brains in the machine
and be given paradise.
Yep, I reject that.
And what, but think about it,
they're like, their attitude is,
don't you want to be anything?
How would you like to be a superhero?
Do you want to be Spider-Man?
You can feel what it's like to be Spider-Man
and save Mary Jane.
You want to be Superman and save Lois Lane?
All you got to do is plug in the neural link.
Basically what they're saying is,
we will give you undeniable pleasures
if you get the fuck out of our way.
And then the scary reality is your world turns into you
with your teeth falling out
you're disheveled and crippled they feed you bugs but you don't care because before you eat the bugs
you turn on the neural link and you're eating chocolate cake yep and when it's time to go you
just 3d print your suicide pod and peace out what's they're doing have you seen those 3d suicide pods
3d printed suicide pods they're insane are they real now though oh yeah there's the 3d printed ones might not be real yet but there's real suicide pods? 3D-printed suicide pods? They're insane. Are they real now, though? Oh, yeah. The 3D-printed ones might not be real yet,
but there's real suicide pods.
Yeah.
For sure.
There was a picture of a lady waving goodbye in it the other day.
Let's go to callers.
Indeed.
Let us see who this first caller is.
Names are always too long.
Justin L. Sims.
How are you, buddy?
You're live with us, my friend. There you are. Yo. Yeah. Sims. How are you, buddy? You're live with us, my friend. There you are.
Yeah.
I'm sorry. I think you
have delved so
deep into conspiracy
theories that my question is
irrelevant.
What I've
got is, what
would be the most poignant thing Alex Jones was right about leading into 2024?
Good question.
The most poignant thing Alex Jones was correct about was the interdimensional demons.
Obviously, the Satanists, the globalists, they're commuting with demons.
They sit in a coffin full of feces and urine.
They try and beg for it.
They beg for the demons to come to them.
And that's what they're actually doing.
They're Satanists.
They do satanic rituals and they kill babies.
And if you want to stop them, you got to go to AlexJonesGame.com right now.
Get the game.
I mean, that is possible.
But he's been talking a lot about assassinations.
And that's a scary but plausible reality to me because uh i talked to him in maybe july and we were talking about how the character
assassination economy that we've been going through which is basically the cancel economy
is waning and uh they will turn to previous methods of taking people out yeah and that's
what that that's what scares me.
Obviously, they've done that before.
And that kind of conversation has gone mainstream again because we have people like RFK Jr. running.
And you can't not talk about his dad and his uncle.
And then what the media and the bureaucrat class has done to Trump over the past four years, five years.
So it hasn't happened yet.
But that's something he's talking about that seems quite plausible to me uh funny funny uh answer that i gave aside i really do think that they do
that stuff and there's evidence that they do but the most poignant thing alex jones he made a
documentary called endgame over 10 years ago that pointed out they're going to try and shut down
the world's economy by releasing viruses and then it freaking happened so paying
attention to what Alex has to say and right now he's
all about the border and talking about the
hundreds of thousands and hundreds of thousands and hundreds
of thousands pouring through the border and how
it's a UN planned invasion and they're trying to
destroy the country I think that might
be actually the most poignant right now
yeah
anything else to add my friend
I gotta say yeah I was uh thinking about the lands in
uh sandy hook situation where the fbi had contacted him in the ninth grade
and then told his mother uh even reported after uh the attack that he could be considered for a kind of a computer hacker situation with the FBI. situation but it's it's often the most controversial theory that Alex you know
reported on his show no idea I don't know I don't know about that part I mean
I know about the Sandy Hook situation and all my so i can't speak to exactly what you're talking about but in terms of what we know him
talking to different media outlets about or uh audience members questioning sandy hook
my defense of people uh who i knew who were like disgusted by that conversation i would just be
like it's an unfortunate question you have to ask if you know about certain things like operation northwoods if you know that your government has thought about
certain things it's i hate i hate to even consider it but you know we have these documents that say
they plan to perform false flags and so you have every right to question it as uncomfortable as it
might make you feel my fear is that uh there will be an attempt on Trump's life, which will succeed.
And I fear that Barron Trump is there and tries to save his father.
And in the attack, his right eye and arm get scarred because that's a sign of the Antichrist.
Okay.
Is he a time traveler too?
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Alright.
Oh, the other, the
shooting thing. It's very
very interesting. The FBI
always has these people on a list before
the attack. I didn't even know that about Lanza.
Like the Parkland shooter. The guy
that just shot up all those people in Maine
a few months ago.
They knew about him.
He was literally in a hospital saying, I'm hearing voices.
They want me to do bad things.
He was on their list.
Look what he did.
There was another guy they found.
He didn't do anything yet, but they found him with guns and the messages on the wall saying, make the voices stop or something like that.
It's like an internet joke now.
Like, oh, say the line.
Like, we were monitoring him.
He was on our radar. That's it. well uh i hope that answers your question well that was
well that was actually uh six years before lanza was investigated by the fbi because he had uh
infiltrated fbi uh mainframes because he was uh you know a hacker and that's what they said to his mother they said
uh we would offer him a job once he graduated high school because he's so good at this
and like like they said they're all on the radar. They all know about them.
It's almost cultivated.
Thank you, guys.
Hey, cheers, brother.
Happy New Year.
Cheers.
Cheers.
Search.
And now we've got Monsieur Talion.
How are you?
Hi, I'm doing pretty well.
Thanks for taking the call.
Of course.
My question, I guess, is more related to stuff we have going on this year besides politics.
But I mean, it's kind of related.
So 2024, like every four years, we have presidential elections, but we also have the Summer Olympics.
Interesting thing really is that, I don't know, I guess like I'm kind of young, so I haven't been around that long. But normally, I think that we should have been hearing maybe a little bit more about this in the news, considering it's supposed to happen in July.
At least for swimming, I know we have the trials coming up in June.
I don't know.
I feel like it's not.
That's a really good point.
I think it's kind of taking a backseat when you compare it to.
Wait, what?
That's a really good point.
We should have been getting mass advertising for the Olympics months ago.
And we've got nothing.
It's almost like it's not going to happen.
Damn. Where is it going to happen. Damn.
Where is it supposed to happen?
Yeah, that was kind of my thought.
I didn't even know.
That's the first time I haven't known where the
Summer Olympics is going to be.
I saw Tokyo in 2020. I thought, well, it's over.
Paris.
Oh, were they love to riot?
There's going to be a Paris in the summertime.
Holy moly.
Maybe why, actually. Maybe why there's not a lot going on be a Paris in the summertime. Holy moly. Wow.
That may be why, actually.
That may be why there's not a lot going on, because they just can't.
They're just keeping it on a low.
How are they going to start building on that stuff?
They're just going to start tearing it down.
They're too busy fighting the rioters to build the actual infrastructure necessary to have the Olympics.
Yeah, exactly.
And even if they got it built, it would just be burned down.
Yeah.
Let's be real.
Can it go down the next day? Yep. that's a really good question my friend that's
very very perceptive i think that's a symptom of us being trapped in a 24-7 election cycle since
2015 it hasn't ended and it's driven us all mad you know it used to be like oh we have election
season we're gonna get up into it we're gonna debate then it goes away 2016 never ended never
fucking ended we that's why we've gone crazy and then and then epstein then lockdowns and
you know you name it that speech right there is why i love shane cashman that's what i came for
baby that's dude i i don't know i i feel like it's just i feel like i talk about lockdowns a lot but
it was just i have like a kind of ptsd from reality dying you know yeah
friday is going to be based af friday's going to be dope yeah we're going to be talking about uh mh
370 conspiracy stuff oh okay yeah it'll be fun planes disappearing who's coming in advanced
technology uh what's the guy's name ashen forbes yep sick yeah i'm not the conspiracy guy i have
no idea shane knows it all yeah i know it
all we'll see we have a lot to talk about it's a very complex very long uh story that he's unpeeled
but obviously you know we've all i think we all might remember where do you remember where you
were when you found out about that plane going missing no no really i was randomly in a malaysian
restaurant and i've never been in one before that or after. I saw it on the TV with Nancy.
I'm like, that's fucking weird. A plane went missing.
We were eating Malaysian food
for the first time.
My life is filled with that kind of weird stuff.
What year is this again?
March 8th, 2014.
It was 2014.
I know.
A decade ago.
Yeah.
Monsieur Talion, anything else to add? No, that was about it. 14. Jesus. I know a decade ago. Yeah. All right. Uh, most of your Italian,
anything else to add?
No,
that was about it.
Um,
thanks for taking the question.
I'm glad I'm just not an anecdote case where it's like,
other people are kind of like when you mentioned it or experiencing the same
thing where it's not getting mentioned.
Yeah,
no,
that's a good,
a really good observation.
Yeah.
I think so too.
Cheers brother.
Happy new year.
All right. Uh uh new stavo how are you happy new year good good happy new year thank you so much for taking my call guys it's really an honor to talk to everybody cheers i'll jump into my
question here um so i keep seeing this meme floating around X where it shows a bunch of fat guys
on the top
and then on the bottom, it's the
army and it says
if they want a civil war, we
have the army.
I guess
what happens if
civil war pops off with the armed
forces? Is there going to be infighting on the
base? Do you think everyone's going to desert to run home and try to defend there depending it depends on
what happens but i can give you a really simple scenario uh have you served at all have you have
you been in the armed forces yes i was a marine for five years so uh what would you consider like um guarding uh i don't know a delivery to be like
a reasonable order like if your commanding officer was like hey we got a big shipment coming in we
need you to to secure the area or whatever you'd say sure right yes okay and then what if it turns
out that your commanding officer is the guy leading the coup and the delivery that's coming
in is a bunch of weapons he's going to use to arm guys to go fight the government you had no idea it was happening
so in the event of civil war or conflict it could be very simply that a ranking officer in a certain
region decides holy shit the federal government is illegitimate they are facilitating the the
storming of the southern border in violation of the Constitution.
He gets in his mind something very simple.
We are a nation of, for, and by the people, and only through the consent of the governed
and the supreme law of the land, which is the Constitution legally, are agents of the
government allowed to act.
In violation of Article 4, Section 4, the Biden administration has begun facilitating
the destruction and invasion of this country.
And someone must do something about it.
And this guy is ranked, has a high enough rank to be like, he knows.
Everybody below him has no idea what's going on.
Any order he gives that is secure this area or detain this person would be viewed as reasonable and lawful. And then he instructs the people beneath him to whatever reasonable degree to go engage in actions to stop the invasion of the southern border.
Then media that the area that's familiar.
Let's say he's in Texas.
Let's say that there are political commentators.
See what he does.
And they say, this guy's a hero.
He's doing the right thing.
What did he do?
He went to the border and he instructed his men to stop the invasion.
The federal government then sends their guys to go and stop this guy stopping the invasion.
And then so and then you've basically got two military factions, both arguing over what's legal and
what's not.
Then they both turn to you.
Yes, you.
And they say, whose side are you on?
So that's the question.
Whose side are you on?
Matt Taibbi described it a few years ago as the point at which two vehicles are speeding
down the highway, top speed.
They pull up to the police station, slam their brakes on.
Two men jump out of each, a guy jumps out of each car. They pull up to the police station, slam their brakes on. Two men
jump out of each, a guy jumps out of each car and they run straight to the police station and they
both yell to the cop, arrest that man at each other. And the question is, who does the cop arrest?
So my point is, civil war doesn't necessarily mean some guy comes out with a declaration and says,
I hereby declare we are a new nation.
It could be as simple as this. A local FBI office gets a phone call. Someone says, hey,
a guy killed my wife. I need help. FBI says, why is it our problem to explain what happened? And he says, the guy crossed state lines. We believe it may be a federal issue. In the course of the
investigation, the local FBI office, let's say Texas, discovers this guy crossed illegally. in fact is part of a network of individuals who are crossing illegally and says, okay, it is within my purview and legal jurisdiction to arrest and stop these people that are trying to, let's say my wife was kidnapped.
Okay, now these illegal immigrants, human traffickers and coyotes are going to smuggle someone out of the country. So the FBI agent contacts local law
enforcement and says, we're going to stop this operation. I need local support. It's a, it's a
human trafficking ring. They're kidnapping children and women. They pulled the Southern border and the
guy is part of a coyote group that is being protected and facilitated. Their efforts are
being facilitated by the Biden administration. That's a fact. The Biden administration is doing this. A court ordered them to stop, but they were absolutely
working with the coyotes to bring in and traffic humans. At a certain point, someone in law
enforcement doesn't think they're engaging in a civil war. They're just like, holy fuck,
we found out who these guys are and we found out when they're coming through the border,
we're going to arrest them. So they show up and they're in plain clothes. Maybe they have badges around their necks. They see the coyotes trafficking people and they pull out their guns
and they say, freeze, hands in the air. Don't move. When all of a sudden a bunch of DC Bureau
guys jump out with guns also in plain clothes and scream, don't you move? Don't you move?
And the Texas guys, neither has any idea who they are. They work in different offices.
The Texas guys say, oh shit, it's an ambush. Local sheriff is on scene and they open fire, killing federal agents.
The coyote guys flee. One of them gets caught by the Texas guys who bring them in.
Texas guys find out they killed a bunch of federal officers who are acting under orders
to protect the coyotes who are kidnapping children. Civil war war that's possible in a scenario like that
it becomes a big scandal the press plays things out and says these guys are criminals the problem
is in texas do you think law enforcement officers like a duly elected sheriff his deputies and local
fbi who are stopping human traffickers are going to be locked up. The public's going to be like, wait, what the fuck?
These guys are doing good.
The federal government's going to be like, he worked for the FBI,
didn't report what he was doing, and locals came in and killed federal officers
who were part of a legitimate operation.
Locals in Texas then say, these are human traffickers from Central America
breaking into our country in violation of the law and the federal
government's helping them so when it comes to uh how the military acts in the eight in 1860 it was
for uh many of the confederates they were like well look i'm from they were trained at west
point but they're like but i'm from virginia that's my home. Like these states were basically countries.
And the thought was, I can't go anywhere else.
If I join the federal government and attack my home state, where do I go?
Nowhere.
So for us in the United States, it's we now this is one big country.
So the issue just becomes to what degree of autonomy does every branch of law enforcement
and the military
have? Because to varying degrees, they have certain control of a certain degree of a certain
amount of space. So with the military, there's varying degrees of rank and the higher rank you
go, there's more and more people that are underneath you. You have a certain degree of
autonomy as to what you can tell these people to do. But of course you report to someone who's
higher than you. But what happens when it's a split second decision?
Human traffickers are caught on the border.
You need to act now.
So National Guard guys go out because it's riot, it's chaos.
The governor calls him in.
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It's like,
no one's going to know
who's good or bad.
You're just going to be shooting.
So,
it happens with Israel.
It happens,
like friendly fire
is a common,
common occurrence.
You're in a security situation. You hear gunshots. You don who the fuck's shooting i'm not i've not been in warfare
but when i've been in riots i hear gunshots was it the police or is it the riders i have no fucking
clue which way do you run who the fuck knows if you run towards the cop you might get shot if you
run towards the the rider you might get shot what the fuck do you do you get the fuck down and you get out of there in war is it your guys or is it their guys no idea
so if it comes down to it there have been situations where the dea and the fbi have
have uh run sting operations on each other you hear these stories plainclothes fbi and dea
one guy is pretending to sell drugs one guy's trying to buy drugs and it turns
out it's a spider-man meme right so anyway absolutely those things those stories are
hysterical right so so now imagine that happens in terms of national conflict yeah let's talk about
uh uh army in texas so this is why they try to move people around. They do not want Texans to comprise the bases in Texas.
They don't want that.
But let's say you live in an area.
And man, like Hunger Games is a really great example of this stuff.
I know movies are silly and stupid, but there's a good human element to what they're writing about.
You live in an area.
You go to the club every day.
You know the bartenders. You live in an area, you go to the club every day, you know, the bartenders, you know, all these people. And then one day you find out that the
locals are in Texas are aiding and abetting the stopping of the trafficking because Texas said
they're going to stop this. So you got a local sheriff's department and they're like, we're
going to go on, we're going to go down there. We're going to shut all the trafficking down.
The federal government is sending agents to facilitate human trafficking.
This is a fact. I'm not making that up. When they were raising the razor wire,
disabling the barriers, and even flying people on planes under the Biden administration's orders
through all over the country, the Biden administration is trafficking people.
I'm sorry. Sooner or later, some dude who joined the military to stop evil
is going to be like, they are not the legitimate government of the United States. They are in
violation of Article 4, Section 4. They're aiding and abetting the invasion of this country.
And the question then becomes, and the question's already now, who's the legitimate government of
the United States? If the Biden administration is facilitating an invasion, which they're doing,
how would they actually be the constitutional government? No, the argument
is they're a criminal element in the government that has exceeded any justification, at which
point we have to ask ourselves who actually is the legitimate government. We may find ourselves
in a scenario where you get members of Congress.
Fuck 2024 at the end of the year.
Vote and say we held a contingent election.
Donald Trump's the president.
Then the Democrats say, no, the state's electors voted.
Joe Biden's the president.
And then you have to ask yourself, who's the president?
Civil wars are never easy.
There's no circumstance where it's just like I'm in charge.
People think civil war is simple. Like a group of people will declare secession and you clearly know who the government is and oh the
federal government saying no secession therefore we're on the side of the federal government
obviously we're not secessionists but what happens when democrats in the senate 50 50 vote biden 50
vote trump and then they're like there're like, there is no government.
And then you're going to get red state military being like, look, contingent election is what
the Constitution says.
Then you're going to get blue state military being like, look, the Electoral College said
this.
Republicans don't have a say in this.
And then who do you take orders from?
But anyway, I think I overanswered the question and we do got to get to more callers.
But did you want to add anything?
No, absolutely
not. You went well
above and beyond on the answer. Thank you so much.
Right on. Thanks for calling in.
Cheers, brother. Happy New Year again.
And maybe nothing happens.
I always say that, too. And it's funny
because I always say maybe nothing happens and everything calms
down and from this point, and then
the Whitmer stuff happens and January 6th happens
and the riots happen.
Nothing could happen, but you mentioned West Point.
I grew up in the town right next to West Point.
I grew up surrounded by the graves of soldiers who fought in all the wars.
And it's just like, you get,
I don't wanna say desensitized,
but I'm like, well, that war wasn't that far apart
from that war.
There's a cyclical thing to this, you know?
And then while also being at West Point,
you're seeing cadets who are going to war.
Not all of them are coming back, right?
I know a ton of people who just died out there.
I think we're dangerously close to a scenario where Texas law enforcement goes to the border and says, look, man, I'm a deputy.
My boss told me not to let anybody through.
And then there's a federal border patrol guy being like, back the fuck off.
This is federal jurisdiction.
You have no jurisdiction here. And the guy says, like back the fuck off this is federal jurisdiction you have no jurisdiction here and the guy says you back the fuck off i live here and these people are not
supposed to be coming in what happens because they're not going to back down oh in arizona
uh there's a sheriff lamb is running he's running as a republican against carrie uh and he you know
carrie would say he belongs to help him with the border still. I don't know how his campaign's going.
But when I was in Yuma, I heard a lot about him.
And he's done a lot.
It seems like he's been trying to do a lot of good down there.
Because the sheriff's the only people you can talk openly about.
You know, anyone who's with any power down there, they're the only people who talk about it.
I'm worried the alternative scenario is some crazy motherfucker is going to get a full auto, go down to that border and just be like
unload on people
Ian's brought it up
or it doesn't have to be a crazy motherfucker
it could be a false flag too
Ian's brought up he's like sooner or later
you watch these videos
some dude's gonna go down with a gun and start mowing people down
where is Ian
let's get that last caller
yeah let's do it
hey uh Tim of 09
How are you doing?
Hi Serge how are you?
I'm doing well
I noticed the name changed so
Oh yeah I'm feeling trans today
So I decided to do a change
Alright well I'll get to my question
So I like the Civil War discussion
Given how likely political escalation Of violence is this year, how can we advocate in our state and local governments to prepare for it? And how would or how could our state and local governments prepare for a potential Civil War? Is there any way to prepare or is it just going to happen? You can get proper training. I'd recommend hostile environment training. I'm actually talking with some of our security guys about maybe doing a hostile environment training, which is so hostile environment is non-combat.
Basically, we teach you what to look for to stay safe and how to do basic first aid.
I don't want to do any kind of combat training.
That wouldn't be me.
But I recommend everybody get basic firearms training.
I've done only a little bit, but gone shooting quite a bit.
Be familiar with guns i'm
certainly no expert but what i would say is any any kind of civil war for like your state there's
nothing they can really do what can they do the states as prepared as they could probably be
but factions are not going to be based on your state's politics illinois may very well find itself in a red faction jurisdiction
instantly occupied by anti-establishment forces because what are they surrounded by a bunch of
country full illinois is a red state just got a blue city kind of like new york exactly but blue
but new york's got some mixed further north probably more yeah for illinois is red as it
comes and then texas is sorry and then chic chicago says blue as it comes right so chicago instantly
gets occupied yeah yeah so and i'm thinking about west virginia west virginia would be would be
establishment forces in two seconds what do you mean uh the proximity of west virginia to dc
guarantees that west virginia gets occupied militaristically look maryland is a
good example maryland was a slave state and so was delaware and maryland was instantly occupied
lincoln arrested like 29 members of the state state legislature and created a uh suspension
of habeas corridor uh habeas habeas corpus corridor and arrested people for no fucking reason because maryland was
like was a was a slave state they were like this state wants to go with them they're north of dc
nope so they went and arrested politicians same thing would happen to west virginia i'd imagine
because west virginia is so based that there would be an instant military occupation and then a bunch
of mountain folk would go you know i keep thinking of the mountain folk it would be like yeah guerrilla warfare in west
virginia and there and there's ain't no way you're fighting a bunch of rednecks from west virginia
no the reason why west virginia is not populated is because it's too difficult to populate yeah
it's a big mountain it's a bunch of big mountains yeah i love west virginia
i fucking love West Virginia.
There's nowhere else I'd want to live, honestly.
Just try Idaho, man.
I actually don't.
I love this country.
I love going to California.
You know, it's beautiful out there.
It's politically deranged, but I just, when I come back from all the travels, I am very
happy to be back in West Virginia.
Yeah.
My kids are happy here.
The community's better.
It's beautiful.
And yeah, we'll hold it down.
I've enjoyed the
people here i know uh cassandra fairbanks has raved about it many many times yeah she would
call it best best virginia that's right it's true though look man they're filing false charges
against people they're launching false investigations events against people journalists
going to jail journalists are going to jail they're being investigated taylor hansen's being spied on
these people are not acting under the uh purview of government they're acting like look a guy puts
on a police uniform gets a job at the department and then on his second day at the job robs a bank
you arrest him he's not acting in his official capacity as a police
officer by stealing money from the bank yeah what what the biden administration and merrick garland
is doing is no different than if a local police officer was caught raping a woman or or robbing
a bank the question is what do you do when there's no superior authority to stop it if a cop is
committing crimes internal affairs if a powerful prominent If a cop is committing crimes, internal affairs. If a powerful, prominent cop, the chief, is committing crimes, the FBI stops it.
What do you do when it's the FBI committing the crimes?
Tucker Carlson said on the show, at what point does someone just say, no?
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Right. Yep.
Sometime soon. Every chance
that you get to say no,
you should. Yes.
Now, I don't think that you should ruin
your life over it but every like
if the cops ain't looking did you really break the law so spoken like a true libertarian right
there what was that so spoken like a true libertarian right there yeah you know i mean look
you know the the law is a suggestion and the evidence of that is the fact that they sometimes punish laws by fines.
That means that you can break the law if you have the money.
Well, maybe just break the law if you don't have the money to.
That's why they want a police.
Depends on what you mean.
I mean, if you're talking about smoking pot or something like that, fine.
But if we're talking about, is it, if the cops aren't looking is it a crime i mean
you raped a woman fair enough obviously i'm talking about any any violent crimes are obviously
i'm not referring to violent crimes i'm not referring to crimes against property right i'm
this is a very libertarian take and usually it's discussed among libertarians so for clarity's sake
i'm not talking about violating someone
else's rights or injuring someone else but like you know if if I was about to be a serial killer
Libertarian yeah like oh this is yeah it's not this is not this is not like oh just forget about
everyone else that exists right but you know if there's no victim is there really a crime yeah so
yep and that's what I mean like with the police state is
like they're trying to grow this giant eyeball but the satellites and everything to watch you
where you can't just do a crime yeah if no one's watching i'm i'm i'm i've talked about this a
little bit before i'm of the opinion that the surveillance state yeah is not they're not trying
to create it exists anything that the government wants to find out about where you've been, what you've done,
it's already been logged by private companies, and all they have to do is subpoena the information.
For everyone listening, please tune in.
They don't have to subpoena anybody.
Well, fair enough.
All they have to do is get it from them.
Tune in Friday morning for the conversation we're going to have with Ashton Forbes,
because this is a big part of that story, and it's going to blow your minds.
And Lockheed Martin's a part of it. Yeah that uh was that good was there anything you want to add before
we wrap up yeah that was good uh i i mean i don't want to blackpill it but honestly it seems like if
we don't go for vague like i don't i don't see how anyone on the left will accept trump and we
don't balkanize but no i yeah i don't know thanks calling. Cheers. I don't know if vague has taught vague,
vague tweeted out something about like,
Trump's not going to,
they're not gonna allow Trump to fit to run.
Right.
I guess.
Was that him?
I saw something.
I didn't read the whole thing,
but he was alluding to that.
Like they won't let him run.
So it's kind of like a pitch for him.
Well,
we'll see what he says on the 10th.
Cause I,
I think I don't speak for him,
but I think he tweeted something like that.
So we'll see.
But anyway,
Andrew, thanks for hanging out.
Thanks, Tim.
This is a ton of fun.
Oh, yeah.
It's good.
It's simple.
It's easy.
And imagine being scared of coming here.
You know what I mean?
It's politicians, man.
They suck ass.
It's dark outside.
There's no street lights. Oh, we're getting a major snowstorm this weekend.
They're lying.
They're full of shit.
They said this before.
We've been in a snow drought for two years and they said there was going to be a snowstorm
and then nothing happened. Bro, it was
raining in Chicago on Christmas
and 60 degrees. Oh yeah. Dude, it rained
all week in New England. All week.
No snow at all. They're saying we're going to get a foot of snow.
Yeah, we'll find out. I don't believe it.
I'm supposed to go to the doctor. If we do, we're going snowboarding.
Alright everybody.
Thanks for hanging out and
we'll see y'all tomorrow.
