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This jerky is too good. You got to give me a second it's really good here kind of clear you read it okay hi um okay so the daily mail says uh
risks of long covid have been quote greatly exaggerated major global study finds and
i for one am not shocked but i'm sure our viewers at home are, you know, similarly
on the same wavelength.
Long COVID seemed like the strangest please stay inside no matter what straw man argument.
I mean, what was it that the...
It's bullshit.
I'm just filibustering until Tim stops chewing.
It's bullshit. It's a psyop. It's bullshit i'm just filibustering until tim stops chewing it's bullshit it's a psyop it's bullshit i mean there's a lot of theories as to what it is but i'm not surprised
to find out that the whole thing was exaggerated and what was likely happening was that somebody
would get some kind of chronic illness maybe they were eating a bunch of ho-hos and ding-dongs and
shoving fucking krispy kremes down their gullet and then they were like man bunch of ho-hos and ding-dongs and shoving fucking Krispy Kremes down their gullet. And then they were like, man, I just feel like shit
all the time. And it's like, dude, you've
got no vitamin D, you're not exercising,
and you're eating horse shit.
No wonder you feel like crap.
It was an easy excuse to be like, but I'm
suffering from lung COVID.
Now, some people probably do.
Some people probably have lingering symptoms and stuff. I'm not
saying that that's not true. I'm saying
a lot of the people that were coming out were just talking shit.
Yeah.
Yeah, people are just not healthy.
People need to get healthy.
I'm kind of thankful the pandemic happened because it forced me to look at myself.
And I was like, oh, I'm not in the best shape.
I'm not eating too good.
I saw that the disease was inflicting mostly old and fat people.
I'm not old, but I was on the borderline of being fat.
So I decided to turn my life around and kind of just, you know, take control of my health.
And a lot of people need to do that.
I think look at this one.
Look at this one.
This was linked to it.
This is from July.
Long Vax, they call it that when you get the vaccine, you get debilitating symptoms from
the vaccine that lasts a long time, resembling long COVID.
It fucking is long COVID, dude.
No, the vaccine is good.
We like the vaccine.
Everyone should get 12 of them.
As I was going to say,
a lot of people were saying
that long COVID
was actually just
extended symptoms
as a result of the vaccine.
And Harvard and Yale
came out and said that
several months ago.
And everyone,
it's like every single time,
this is the funny thing.
Like some people
nail these conspiracy theories
so quickly,
it's mind blowing.
You know, they're like,
when myocarditis first appeared, people like it's the Vax.
And I'm like, well, slow down there, everybody.
And then it's like CDC says the vaccine can cause myocarditis.
And I'm like, damn, they were saying it'll cause myocarditis.
But it's still ultimately worth taking, which I found very funny, especially when initially
they thought it was just young men between a certain age and the age group got bigger
and bigger.
And then it kind of grew.
The CDC was like, well, it's okay.
I mean, ultimately, the vaccine is worth it even if young men die.
I think that's kind of crazy.
It's for the greater good.
Yeah, it's for the greater good.
Don't question us.
I've always wondered if long COVID is actually part of a more hypopochondriac society. Like people are already
looking to feel sick in some way. So COVID just fills that void where they feel probably, I mean,
like you're saying, they're not empowered enough to maybe take charge of their health or because
it's, you know, challenging to get doctors to believe you when you have symptoms. So they just
blame everything on long COVID. I love the conspiracy theory that what they actually did was like one in every 20 shots was sterilization and 19 of 20.
So it's like 19 of the shots were saline. So it's like, oh, here's your vaccine. They give you a
shot and it's nothing. But then one in 20 got the one that sterilizes you population reduction.
But I mean, like the problem with these
conspiracy theories is like there's no evidence suggesting that would be true it's just someone
wanting it to be true you know what i mean like they wish that bill gates is actually that that
crazy like bill gates is crazy but he's like very overt about what he does you know he comes out he's
like we want to reduce the global population by stopping people from having kids and it's like
okay because he believes in it.
I mean, this is part of his moral hierarchy.
So he doesn't think he's wrong.
Why would he hide it?
If you know you're doing something wrong, then you hide it, right?
The sterilization stuff is always interesting because, I mean, especially I knew a lot of women who had qualms about getting the vaccine.
They weren't sure what the long-term implications were.
It wasn't thoroughly studied.
A lot of the control groups didn't include pregnant or pregnant women or nursing moms. And so the fact that so much of the media levied their their concern, their their real fears against them system that, you know, probably was already there because people are dissatisfied in so many ways.
But how could you look at your doctor now who maybe pressured you or gave you a hard time for not getting a vaccine and look at this study and say, oh, I'm definitely going to take your medical advice now.
I mean, it's a study, man.
I believe the science.
So the study says it, you know, I'm going to I'm just going to stand here on the street corner and say it.
So I but not all doctors read every study i mean it's just a gamble you don't
know which one you're going to get when they get there and we don't know when the information come
out i think that was the hard thing because people who were skeptical of the covid vaccine
immediately became crazy anti-vaxxers which is not true you mean science deniers that's true i
mean i've never really believed in science i think it's all actually magic no i'm just kidding but my one very anti-scientific opinion i guess
is that dinosaurs probably didn't happen explain this to me i can't what about the bones what are
the bones well so fake they the bones in the museum are fake, yes. But we only found them, I don't know, 150 years ago.
How real is that?
Well, no, no, no.
We definitely found them prior.
People said that they were the bones of giants.
They said they were the bones that proved the Nephilim, et cetera, things like that.
I'm more inclined to believe that than dinosaurs.
Well, I got a dinosaur bone downstairs.
Really?
Yeah.
How do you know?
Because I bought it from a guy.
Yeah. I walked into a store and a guy was like, see that? And I was like, what's that? He goes, it's a dinosaur bone. And I was like dinosaur bone downstairs. Really? Yeah. How do you know? Because I bought it from a guy. Yeah.
I walked into a store
and a guy was like,
see that?
And I was like,
what's that?
He goes,
it's a dinosaur bone.
And I was like,
no shit.
And he's like,
yeah.
And I was like,
I'll take it.
Cost me a thousand dollars.
Okay.
That's how I know it's real.
Because you spent money on it.
No,
in all reality,
it has like a certification.
But that doesn't mean
the people who certified
are telling you the truth.
But,
I've got,
I don't know,
dinosaurs are real. they can't they carbon
date that because it's the living tissues they could carbon date the bones or i don't know man
fossilized i don't know i don't know but what i can tell you is tyrannous dinosaurs had feathers
yeah you just look at it look at it look at a featherless chicken you're gonna be like that's
a motherfucking t-rex okay my question is are dragons actually dinosaurs like when mythology talks
about dragons are those actually related to what science has classified as dinosaurs that was the
other thing i was going to say like they would they use probably probably saw those they probably
found found so i'm sure and this look these is evidence of dragons there's no way there's no
dragons look at these giant bones right these crazy teeth that's that's what i would think
you know like i'm willing to give you dinosaurs if you give everyone else dragons.
That makes sense to me.
Okay, I'll take dragons.
Why would so many cultures have their own forms of dragons if they weren't real,
but that for whatever reason no one ever discovers dragon bones?
The idea that, like, an asteroid, I guess, hit one side of the earth
and then just killed all the dinosaurs never really saddened me.
Except for the ones that flew away because they were dragons.
Yeah, true.
You don't know where they are now.
I'm going to teach science classes at Tidcast University.
We're solving the world's problems right now.
What's your take, Andy?
Do you believe in dinosaurs or dragons or both?
Well, I'm surprised when you say you think the dinosaur bones in museums are fake.
Fake in what way?
Well, no, they're literally like not bones.
Like they're just...
Plastic cast. Yeah, they're like reconstructions of bones.
So the bones that they put on display are not actual
bones. A lot of places
just show display models. They don't
actually show real. But you can go to a place and look at real bones.
Well, there are places that do have real ones
though. But you think all of them are fake?
Look at this, dude. I choose to believe
that dinosaurs never happen.
But why would we look At this picture
It's a featherless rooster
Wait are you serious
That's what they look like
Without feathers
Yeah see it's
This is what dinosaurs became
They didn't go anywhere
They just became these things
Right
And a little T-Rex arm
Yeah the little arms
We really conquered
These things man
And the thing is
With all the feathers
Their wings look
Very very different
But when they pull Pull them, they're like hands.
Yeah.
And so, I mean, he's like little T-Rex, dude.
I think the Lamb for Time, that movie series,
is just big paleo propaganda for children.
You mean, oh, produced by Big Time.
Exactly.
That's so funny, dude.
Yeah, but in people's minds, I'm sure,
chickens kill mice.
They eat things. They're not. There are people that, oh, they're like I'm sure, like chickens kill mice. They eat things.
They're not.
There are people that, oh, they just, they're like chickens.
And they're like, it's like, no.
They get down.
They'll eat each other, bro.
If there was like a 12 foot tall chicken, you would be fucked.
This guy looks inside out.
That's the best description for chicken.
They would mutilate your, dude.
They're crazy.
Even like a six foot tall chicken.
That's like, that's like a mullet or like
an ostrich. There's a
three and a half foot tall rooster.
Three and a half feet? That's scary. Yeah, it's the biggest rooster
of Brahma.
Bro, if you
even like four foot tall wild chickens,
you'd probably be like...
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Shit, man.
You better be careful.
I would hate to run into a four foot tall chicken.
That'd be awful.
Oh.
Or like, I've told this story before, but I have younger siblings and we used to let
them into the backyard, but then we had to equip them with air horns because there was
a mom and her cubs of black bears that used to walk through the yard and that's a problem but i can't imagine
sending my like four-year-old sister out to play and then she runs into a four-foot tall rooster
that's way worse well the rooster probably would just like look around roosters are pretty chill
unless you're getting too close to the girls but the hens they're ravenous and i was thinking about
it because we when we when we have sushi on Fridays,
the leftover sashimi we throw to the chickens, it's very good for them.
And the girls, they go nuts.
You throw a piece of salmon in there and they're just going crazy
and they're fighting and they're running and jumping and chasing each other
and the roosters are watching.
And I was thinking about it.
It's like the hens lay eggs every day,
so they're probably insanely hungry nonstop.
And the roosters don't.
So they're probably just standing there like, I don't know.
It's like breastfeeding moms.
Breastfeeding moms need tons of calories because they're producing so much milk.
That's right.
That motherfucker is a T-Rex dude.
He's just inside out.
Somebody just needs to flip him.
Yeah, it's like them and lizards too.
I think they just, I don't know.
I don't know.
I'm not a biologist, but I believe that that they split one went the wrong direction no one went the
other direction well but i bet t-rex tasted like shit because it was so big so the muscle would be
really dense yeah like whale whale tastes awful if you've had whale before yeah it was the worst
fucking show really yeah yeah it was like someone imagine if someone took a piece of beef flattened
it between like a thousand pounds put it in uh put put it took a piece of beef flattened it between like
a thousand pounds put it in uh put put it on a plate with vinegar and left it in the sun for a
week i was like how are they eating this was this in norway norway yeah and i was like i don't want
to eat that and they're like you must you must and i was like do we in america we don't do whale
and they're like oh no no it's fine because it is traditional and they're like piling on their plates and they're like and i was like i should have a taste you know i'm not it's it's it's food
i eat cow you know what i mean like whales are smart so i don't eat well it's like well the
whale's already dead i'll taste it and i was like it's gross it's like pickled meat like the
norwegians are known for the extroming which is like a fat like a shark that they take and put in
this shack and leave it outside and i think that's icelandic it's iceland oh yeah norway's iceland very very similar it
literally uh ferments over like three or four months and they take it out and they eat it and
they think it's great but everyone that's tired that tries it's not norwegian they're like no it
is though because when you're in a place like iceland and you need certain nutrients the
bacteria has to grow so like that's that's why you'll see in a lot of a lot of these places they do festering meat like in uh in in the arctic circle and stuff they'll eat like
rotten meat because something about the meat itself is not it doesn't have everything you need
but the bacteria growing on it will grow like a full amino chain or something like that
yeah so they eat the rotten meat so then you go to a restaurant you order off the fermented meat menu
that's a while. Oh, dude.
Norway was the worst.
Like, Norway, the country was awesome.
Like, one of the coolest countries I've been to.
And, you know, we investigated the story of the Isdal woman.
They believe that she was an Israeli.
She was Mossad and she was hunting down and killing Nazis.
And then one of the Nazis got the best of her and smothered in a fire or something like that choking her out and killing her but anyway i go to the candy shop they have salt
skulls you know salt skull is licorice pressed into salt salt so it is uh it's a licorice skull
you know black licorice and coat the whole thing in salt and they take it and they pop it in their
mouth and they eat them yeah they have bags of them. It's disgusting.
And I'm like, I wonder if it's because they're out in sea so long.
They have like salt sprayed all over them.
And so they're constantly tasting it.
So they're like accustomed to it or something.
I do think your taste buds change based on what you eat.
I mean, if we're in America and you get tons and tons of sugar,
getting something salty or much more savory must be very different.
I don't know anyone who likes black licorice. i was already off the boat the salt doesn't bother me but
oh yeah licorice is the problem so you know i'm sure you know um a vegemite or marmite i'm sure
right so like me and you had probably being anglo sphere or whatever guys yeah yeah but you you don't
put you don't take a whole dollop and throw and throw it on the thing. Which many people do.
You take a little bit of it out and put it on buttered toast, and then it's great.
Yeah.
But we're used to it.
But people think it works like marmalade or jam where you just scoop it on.
I mean, they're fun and spooky.
Look at that candy.
I can't believe that's real.
When I saw it, I was like, that's not salt.
I was like, that's got to be sugar.
No, it's salt.
That is salt.
So imagine taking a teaspoon of salt downstairs,
pressing it into any kind of food and just eating it.
And there's a bag of them.
I'm like, won't that kill you?
The only thing I would, and this shows you how long I've,
the fact that I've grown up in America.
I mean, sea salt and caramel chocolates are,
I mean, having a little bit of the salt with that.
But again, I can't get past the black licorice.
What are we doing here?
I love how it's skulls too,
because they're super into like death metal
and black metal.
Yeah, skulls.
Yeah, let's not forget the Norwegians
were the ones who were burning those
like thousand-year-old turds and stuff
just because it was metal and cool, I guess.
That's crazy, man.
Do you think goth kids all one day
go on a pilgrimage to Norway to see this stuff?
Maybe they should.
They're not really.
It's not the same anymore.
No.
When I went there, they were like,
oh, that was the 90s.
Norway was pretty cool, though.
It was cool.
It was daylight out around midnight.
Yeah, the midnight sun.
I went to Norway as a kid
and remember the midnight sun,
but always would love to go back as an adult.
Yeah, when is that?
In summer, I think.
I went to Bergen.
Oh, flips. Yeah. In summer it's uh midnight sun yeah yeah that's
right winter it's always dark we stayed up really late because we didn't realize what time it was
my parents came back and we're like what are you doing yeah i was in um i was in iceland
in uh for new year's and it sucked like it was really it was really really cool to be in iceland
and they had like this big statue of some guy i forgot the guy's name it sucked like it was really it was really really cool to be in iceland and
they had like this big statue of some guy i forgot the guy's name he's like some famous viking dude
or something like that mr viking and then everyone's celebrating and it was fun but it gets
it's like it's barely day out ever yeah i was like damn it was cool though reykjavik that was fun
went to the uh the blue springs or whatever blue lagoon is how it is didn't actually go in it
though because it was like you need a reservation or some shit.
Yeah, I think it's pretty.
This is crazy though.
I was at a burger place
in between Reykjavik
and Blue Lagoon
and I'm sitting in this place.
There's no one in there.
It's just me and a friend
and then these two guys come in
like we're eating burgers and fries
and then one guy's like,
hey, you're Tim Pool.
And I was like,
what the fuck, man?
This is what you get for having a uniform. have to put on your ears years ago this was this was just after
sweden uh yeah so i did not have a big following i was like yeah how the do you know
what the that's awesome did he see like your momo stuff or how did he did he say that or anything i
don't know wow no he just said oh it's new oh, I've seen your stuff on YouTube. I was like, okay.
Well, I guess I'd been at that point
working for several years.
Right.
You know, I don't know.
That's the thing too.
It's like you do a lot of shit
over a long period of time.
People recognize you for different things.
I had kids when I was in Berkeley.
They were like,
yo, it's that dude from Vice.
And I was like, oh, well, there you go.
Hello, fellow youth.
It's me from Vice.
That's right.
I am the guy from Vice.
People saw that.
I went to the same um neighborhoods
that you did in sweden oh yeah what how was it um disturbing oh really why would i have him
well i mean you went to rinkaby right yeah i got traced out yeah i mean it's uh oh wait no no wait
yeah yeah yeah that's one of those...
Quote, unquote, no-go places.
So-called no-go places.
That's in the Stockholm area.
But I also went to Malmo.
I used to write about parallel immigrant societies a lot.
Got me in trouble a lot.
That's exactly what it is.
Yeah.
It is.
In Rinkeby, it's just all Somali migrants and their children.
So they are not part of Sweden in their minds. Sweden, obviously,
is like, it's our territory, but the people
there are like, who the fuck are you? Get the fuck out of here.
It's like, you're in our territory.
They don't view themselves as part of the Swedish
government. And it's mostly because Swedish people
are super racist.
Did you not experience that?
No. I'm surprised to hear that from you there's a swedish in in my
experience and in my opinion really actually bend over backwards to be politically correct
and nice and that's just the stereotype of the swedes yeah right so somebody who is overly
politically correct tends to be racist so for example they put all of the poor somali migrants into rinkaby and then say
fuck off we're not racist look how many refugees we let in and then shoved into a corner and don't
help creating parallel immigrant societies and uh but the more simple they do help though the
swedish government spends so much on resettlement schemes now now they're starting to welfare now they are when
when i was there several years ago and they began resettling migrants to break to to break them
apart and allow them to integrate properly into sweden before that they shuffled them all into
corners and then paid money to keep them under the rug and and and pay to have the problems uh
put uh swept under the rug but the other good example is we met a bunch of people who were like,
if you don't speak Swedish with a proper Swedish accent,
you will be held back in jobs.
You will be discriminated against in commercial business.
They'll make snide comments and giggle about you.
If you are not Swedish, you are looked down upon.
And so what happens is the children of the Somali migrants grow up in Sweden, speak Swedish, and are called immigrants.
So what do you think that does to a person?
They're like, dude, I'm from here.
I went to school here.
I've never been anywhere else.
And they call them an immigrant.
The people in Sweden were referring to 20-year-old Somali men who were born in the country uh they were calling them immigrants
and it's just like holy shit and they were explaining to me that if they go back and
visit their grandparents in another country they're called swedes yeah yeah they have they
have no country they have no community they have no home i can relate i met i met several people
who are like i met an american woman check a movie from america and i can't get a job because my swedish is an american accent
and they always scoff super racist well they just pretend like they're not the idea when you're
talking about uh people who grew up as immigrants or their first generation in that country but they
grew up in predominantly immigrant communities when i was uh i mentioned this for a show that
i'd gone to par Paris for summer in college.
And one of the things that they talked about was this happens in Paris.
You'll get enclaves where people are from Syria or wherever else.
And it's actually what ultimately leads to extremism because people feel as though they are not in any culture.
And so therefore they seek out a culture online
and are therefore radicalized online.
I don't know if that's actually Sweden's fault
or any European country's fault,
but it is one of the challenges of being predominantly tied to a culture that is not the culture you
are being raised in. And I'll clarify for you, Andy, someone who says I'm not racist,
I'm going to help these poor minorities. It doesn't mean they're not racist.
So what was my experience? People of Sweden, they will bend over backwards to try and prove
they're not racist. And then in private will disparage people of other races hmm interesting you have that
experience i i i just i think sweden is such a politically correct society that they they've
done so much to even harm their own nation um dude yeah i had uh one of the news organizations when we went to rinkaby we get chased out long
story short police follow us as we're leaving i filmed the whole thing i talked to one journalist
who was a good dude and he was like the media's lying every journalist knows if you go into
rinkaby you will be attacked and he's like i got i got he's like i got punched and someone
smashed my camera something like that and then he said this publicly in an interview with me.
And he's like, yeah, fuck him.
I had a call from a journalist who was lying and wrote a fake piece.
And I asked them, I was like, they're like, why did you lie about what happened in Rinkeby?
And I was like, I filmed it.
The video's on YouTube.
You can watch it.
And they were like, but the police said you lied.
And I said, didn't a photographer from your organization get punched in the face by one of these people when he went there?
And they're like, yes.
And they smashed his camera.
Yes.
And I was like, why are you telling me I'm lying when you're the one claiming it?
And they were like, but the police said it's not true.
And I was like, you people are such a fuck.
You're full of shit.
It's insane so speaking of scandinavia uh in denmark they've uh lawmakers there have
announced that they plan to essentially bring back to bring a blasphemy law because of
these ongoing riots that have happened um involving muslim communities over
there's been protests where there has been burning and quran burning yeah and there's been protests where there has been burnings and crime burning and there's been lots
of violence in both Sweden and Denmark and in Denmark is now reconsidering that that freedom
of expression protests because it until right now it currently is still protected but they've
already signaled that they're ready to change that just because of the instability from these violent demonstrations that happen every time.
Car burnings, arson attacks.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's wild.
I mean, dude, Denmark's awesome, man.
I love Denmark.
I've been to Denmark way too many times.
Been toiania several
times it's so weird i don't even know i kept ending up in this place does you end up in denmark
for some reason denmark's um uh approach to immigration is the 180 of sweden by the way. Integrate? Yes, but like through much more, I would say, intensive measures.
Can you elaborate?
Yeah.
So a lot of migrant families will depend on social welfare, right?
And one thing a few years ago that the Danish government did is, okay, if you want access to welfare,
let's say the,
the mother is not working or,
um,
the family needs additional,
um,
social benefits.
Um,
you have to put your child into the state's,
um,
preschool programs,
which teaches,
you know,
like,
um,
the language,
patriotism,
the language.
And it's about integration. And it, you know, specifically it language patriotism the language and it's about integration and it
exactly you know specifically it's targeting these migrant communities and upset a lot of them because
um these communities exist in a way with a separate parallel identity from the wider society And in Denmark, it was the center-left party who was really able to pull the rug under from populist parties by embracing stricter immigration policies. so like whereas in sweden you know you you have now a coalition government that involves the
sweden democrats which is a right-wing populist party that is anti-immigration in denmark the
the center-left party said we're we're gonna plot we're gonna run on this platform but from
the center left and they've done very well in government. I found it. Burger restaurant. If you're in Denmark, go to It's Burger right outside of Christiania.
Fucking amazing.
Man, this conversation has made me realize I need to get out of the country more.
Yeah.
I only just got my passport in March.
Hell yeah.
I went to Cabo.
Cabo is cool.
I've been to Cabo, but I've heard a lot about the Jeskis and such, I'm sure.
Yeah, but no, I've got to expand my cultural power.
Well, I think especially-
El Salvador, go there.
And like being from California,
it's harder to get to Europe.
I mean, if you're,
I felt like I was really privileged
growing up on the East Coast
and having European ancestors,
like family in England, we went, right?
I mean, it's not necessarily easy.
America is such a huge country.
We forget that traveling outside of it
can be really challenging. First time I left the country, it forget that traveling outside of it can be really challenging.
First time I left the country was when I was
25, I went to Canada.
I don't know if Canada actually counts, though,
because Canada is basically like
American Junior. I'll give it to you. If I'm counting Mexico, you can
count Canada. But then it was,
I was 26, I went to Spain.
And then after that, it was fucking
nuts, because then I started working for Vice, and I
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Went to Turkey, went to every country in Europe, basically. basically not really but a lot of them went to
korea japan i've been in japan twice i think how's japan i've always wanted to go amazing
i love japan maybe that's your first international not mexico trip right yo go to a real japanese
karaoke bar and it sounds like so much fun i sang uh uh what's that aladdin song i'll show you the world yeah that one
yeah yeah not part of your world that's little mermaid a whole new world a whole new world
that's right i sang that with our japanese fixer and i was aladdin and she was jasmine
and she was like really old bro epic memories we went to fukushima and sad she died of cancer man oh yeah because uh when we
would go in me and luke we wore suits and the point is to keep the radioactive shit off of you
yo wow inside fukushima in the red zone when it was all destroyed and everything was crazy and
we went to this guy's house and you could see like the calendar and the clocks were all frozen
from when the earthquake happened and she went in and she's like oh i'm old i'm fine old people are really unlikely to get cancer because cellular division is minimal at that age
and i think she was like in her late 50s or 60s and a couple years later she died
yeah and so luke was like i'm kind of scared he's like maybe i should go to the doctor and i'm like
my health is good it's not it was really stupid to go like how old was i like 30 what year was it 20
oh shit this was 2015 2014 maybe fuck it was 2014 i think damn that's nine years ago
shit we should go to callers yeah we should i thought you're gonna say we should go to japan
but yeah get your passport man uh i i've only been till i think like 35 or maybe 38 different
countries well it's like it's it's pretty i think it's pretty good. There's like 180 190 or something like that 192
Wait till Tim casco's live international. I'll sell it a heart attack. All right. I love Spain spends my favorite Madrid is the best
Let us I all these names so long
Adam Adam
Sechi Adam Adam sassy. I'm not sure So long. Adam, uh, Adam, Setchy, Adam,
Adam,
Sessy.
Uh, not sure.
You are alive.
How do you,
how do I pronounce your username?
Adam CC.
Adam CC.
All right.
Okay.
What's up,
Adam?
How you doing?
I'm doing great.
Thanks for having your,
uh,
Canadian friend back.
Thanks for,
thanks for having me back guys.
Of course.
All right.
All right.
So my question is,
what wisdom can you give to young adults
interested in amateur or professional journalism
considering this era of credentialism
in the professional space?
Oh, if I may,
I would love to answer that question.
Thank you for the question, first of all.
I would say, okay say okay few things one um pick a beat or
related beats and get good at it you if you want to become professional in your career you want to
be and become an expert in some type of area um just think of the people that we all of us um are
familiar with you know like if you think of Chris
Ruffo you think of CRT and the work he's done you know and this can even go on like in just
social media around libs of TikTok that's about those CRT and trans videos on social kids that's her beat um and so on and so forth so there's that um and i would say um
get good at uh focus on developing the reporting skills what i see some sometimes with new and
amateur journalists is that they they want to get right into the world of commentary and opinion
writing because you know they they see the people they like on
youtube or the columns they read from writers they like but when if you're a young person i assume
you are really the public is i think in terms of in the print world they're they're not going to
be so interested in the opinions of an 18 or 19 year old you just have not had enough life
experience but if you become good at reporting, you can incorporate those skills
into a commentary later on.
I mean, the best opinion pieces we read
in newspapers or magazines, whatever,
are ones that, yes, give an opinion,
but is also able to give out new original information.
So those are the things I would say focus on
for new journalists.
I think a good example of this is like people on twitter
who quote themselves you ever see that they'll like say something but put in quotes and then like
act like it's not them who's saying a thing they said and then trying to act like it was important
it's so weird i think that's funny though are you talking about how like when journalists do
interviews and instead of attributing a quote to themselves okay i'm saying that someone will go on twitter and write it is best that war is won
then victory savored by the enemy and they'll put it in quotes and act like it's a famous quote from
somebody but it's just something they said my point is that people desperately want their opinions to
be validated without doing anything to actually have an opinion worth validating or worth being valid.
So I agree.
And that's why you see a lot of these trends, these track career tracks for a lot of opinion people who are they did journalism in the past.
They did some kind of journalism and then later started hosting a certain subject really makes you probably a better reporter because you're able to start really picking out details other people would miss.
And it does in some ways make you an expert.
I think the desire to share opinion is totally honorable.
I understand that.
But probably being able to share your expertise would be even better.
Here's the easiest way.
You want to be a journalist?
You want to build a career?
You want to be big and famous?
It is simple.
Take your phone.
Go somewhere.
Tweet about it.
There you go.
I knew that answer was coming from Tim.
Oh, yeah. Because a couple things will happen from it.
One, you will tweet things and you are dumb as a box of rocks. But people are going to share the images and videos you post because it's showing relevant context. If you go to an event where something relevant happens or you are really smart and you do it and then people start asking you more about what's going on. You produce threads. You appear on shows. People ask you, hey, you were there. What happened? So I remember I was covering these riots. The Young Turks had me on several,
a couple of times, twice. You start getting invited places because you put out a video.
You say something like video shows, activist, punch cop. There you go. It's going to get shared
by people who are interested in it. And they're going to come, they're going to hit you and be
like, hey, can you comment on this? Like what happened? What else did you see? And now you're
a guest on someone's show. So for me,
I got a bunch of attention after Milwaukee because I announced to my very small, uh,
fan base at the time, 20,000 followers on YouTube that because the people there were saying outright,
they were targeting white people. If you are not black, if you are perceivably white in any way,
they are threatening you with violence and they threatened me. And I was like, it's not worth it.
I'm out. Then of course, I think like Dave Rubin hit me up, Tommy Loren hit me up and they're like,
would you comment on this and talk about it? I'm like, yeah, here's what happened.
And, uh, I was covering a Trump rally. I worked for fusion at the time and some guy got hit in
the back of the head with a bag of, we believe it was rocks. And then Fox news asked me to come on.
And it was funny because fusion was like, yeah, do it. We're super excited. And then all of their
millennial woke employees got really mad that I did.
But, you know, whatever.
The fact is, seriously, I mean, go somewhere.
Film.
Look at Elad.
He filmed that we're coming for your children thing.
That thing's got like 100 million views, a ridiculous amount.
Yeah.
You know, that's it, man.
That's the secret.
I hope that...
Do journalism.
Go places.
Gave me some answers there, my friend.
That was wonderful,
especially in light of the
scandal on our parliamentary floor.
Oh, boy.
More active and honest journalists.
Thank you, everybody.
Thanks for calling in.
Cheers, friend.
Oh, I cut him off.
Sorry about that, brother.
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How are you today, Flayer the Hatebound?
Hi, guys.
How's it going?
Pretty good.
Pretty good.
Good.
Thank you.
That's awesome.
My question is for the crew.
Anyone wants to answer? So do you believe
that this sudden action
taken by Burger King
to remove ad revenue from Rumble
is just an attempt to show
how much power companies
have over with us
regarding ads?
Or is it just
just a random move they made?
And then the second part of that, if you don't mind,
will their move against Rumble and Russell be random and nothing
and just help Russell?
Or do you think this will just start a chain reaction
of more and more companies?
It's not a power flex.
It is stripping of resources.
They want they they want to strip the influence from people who challenge the narrative.
So big advertisers probably who are aligned.
There could be some like 35 year old woke woman who works at Burger King who goes, oh, no, we shouldn't do rumble.
And that's it. End of story.
I talked about this. Who was I talking to in the culture where we were talking about Bud Light? And I was like, before it came out, I said, I bet it's some when, when, when the
Bud Light thing first happened, I was like, I bet it's some millennial kid who came in, doesn't know,
doesn't care. And then it turned out it was some like millennial woman who was like, you know,
we're going to do this trans thing. So, uh, it's not random. It has a purpose. It is someone who is angry and wants to hurt Rumble,
but it won't matter. They will keep doing it. But Rumble is building a structure, a system to be
resilient to this. You don't need Burger King. Here's a secret. The overwhelming majority of
acting jobs are not blockbusters. And people don't know this.
They assume that if you're going to be an actor, it's like, oh, like, are you in a movie or a TV show?
You could be in a small indie film with a budget of $50,000.
And I know, so especially living out of LA, like I knew a ton of people who were doing acting.
And it's like, but you know, if you live in LA, that acting could just be like,
it could be a film with a $5,000 budget and you get hired and I'll go pay
you 500 bucks for the day. You're an actor. You're doing an acting job. The assumption that you need
big advertisers is wrong. There is a, uh, for, for YouTube. In fact, the bulk of advertising
is like small restaurants and things like this. This is why when COVID lockdown happened,
the COVID lockdowns happened. Everybody lost massive amounts of money because I'm getting
like 5 cents from every
local diner every day or something to them. It's meaningless. They go on YouTube and they say,
run my videos to promote the diner to only people who live in this area. Things like that. Someone
in that area is watching a Tim cast video and then a commercial for the diner pops up. It's like,
come on down. Burgers are on sale. One 99. And then they go, Oh yeah, you know, I think I will
go down. I get a couple cents or whatever off of that
ad deal. I've never even heard of that company.
So Rumble probably could give two shits
about Burger King. Rumble wants
they want mass volume
from small business that do micro
marketing on the scale of like
$500 a month in terms of general marketing
to their neighborhoods. That's the money.
That's where it's at. So fuck them. Fuck these
assholes. Rumble's gonna win.
Definitely. Anyone else? Do you not to their neighborhoods. That's the money. That's where it's at. So fuck them. Fuck these assholes. Rumble's going to win. Yeah.
Definitely.
Anyone else?
Do you not think
that these businesses
cower more
not because of
a wider conspiracy
but simply because
they get immediate...
I mean,
what I've seen often is
and the Postal Money
has experienced this
like some journalists
and they don't even have to be
from a particularly big publication,
but nevertheless sends a media inquiry and asks them,
why are you advertising on a platform that platforms a person who's been accused of XYZ?
And then just in fear, they then make a rash decision to pull their business.
Oh, that happens too, for sure.
But for a lot of this stuff, Bud Light was just some millennial moron who made a bad decision.
So I think in terms of Burger King, I assume it's the lady from the UK saying,
you know, your funding is going to rapists.
And they were like, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
Just we spend like 100 bucks a year., I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. We spend like a hundred
bucks a year. Fuck them. You know what I mean?
Like, when they say Burger King pulled their ads,
what?
What was the market cap that Burger
King, or what was the market spend for Burger King
on Rumble? I don't think it
was substantial. So it's probably
negligible to everybody. It just sounds bad
in the press.
Here's what I'm going to gonna do you know what i'm gonna
do from now on i am i am going to start advertising on the young turks that'll be sick i'm gonna spend
one dollar per month yeah to run an ad on the young turks and then as soon as as soon as as
soon as they say anything i'm gonna be like oh oh we're pulling our ads. Oh, my God. I can't believe they would say something so racist.
And then, you know, then we'll get all of our friends like the Postmail to write to report.
Timcast Media pulls all advertising from Young Turks over sexist, sexist, racist remarks.
And here's the best thing.
It's all opinion.
So here's what I can do.
Not to not to brag on the Young Turks, but, Turks, but I could buy an ad for a dollar.
And then Jen could say something that I personally, here's what I do.
Jen could say, look, you know, poodles are good dogs.
I like poodles.
They're well trained.
That's why I got a golden doodle.
They're the best.
Golden doodle?
That sounds like golden dawn.
And then what I do is I say,
Timcast rejects the innuendo and dog whistling of the Young Turks wholeheartedly.
We do not intend to provide funding to those who would make such disgusting remarks.
Timcast rejects Nazism in all its forms
and anyone who would make comments about having sex with animals does not deserve any money from
us. Now, did he say he would do any, did he say he was a Nazi? No. Did he say that he would bang
animals? No. The implication, this is a trick they actually do. So I'll keep the young turks
out of it. Seriously, what they'll do is, Andy could say something like, I'm not a big fan of Red Bull.
And they'll say a recent statement by Andy Ngo that shocked us to our core.
And they're referring, of course, to saying he doesn't like Red Bull.
They will then say as a total non sequitur, we will not provide any advertising dollars
to Nazis or those who support Nazis.
Well, that statement
has nothing to do with what Andy said.
But the average person will make the assumption
the shocking thing that was said
was support of Nazism.
That's the trick they do.
Here's what I'll do.
We'll have Casper advertise
on Young Turks. That would be so funny.
I hope that is David being like,
we don't support communists,
overt communists,
and people who call for genocide.
Therefore, we have announced
that we'll be making
several business decisions
which will affect advertising sales
in the future.
Stop.
Paragraph over.
Story over.
In light of recent statements
made by Cenk Uygur,
we are pulling ads from his platform.
You see how they're not related statements?
But the assumption
is well anyway there you go that's an interesting answer how do you uh how do you feel about that
my friend uh flare the hate bound oh i mean your points are good and thanks for answering the best
of your ability because i saw that today at work and I was just like,
it's so random.
It has nothing to do with Burger King.
I don't understand.
Let's say they got some DEI person
in the background going,
hey, you might want to do something about this.
Yeah, totally.
D-I-E as I always say.
Yeah, D.
All right.
Thanks for calling in. Yeah, and don D-I-E, as I always say. Yeah, D. All right. Right on, man.
Thanks for calling in.
Yeah, and don't forget to join Discord for the after-after show.
Yeah, definitely.
All right.
I'll do it one day.
Maybe.
We'll see.
I'm warming up to the idea.
Anyways, cheers, man.
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Oh, there it is hello what's fantastic
you there i got there you are hey guys um thanks for uh taking my call i'm really happy to think
that you're gonna win or uh that uh rumble's gonna win tim um but i i'm curious are you
gonna help rumble win you going to let your awesome
listeners put
their money where the parallel
economy is and support
you on Rumble like maybe a day
a week?
We put all of our shows on Rumble.
We're tired of YouTube.
All of our content is on Rumble.
All of it.
Live.
The only thing we don't have on rumble is the live show
yeah that's the first place i look for you tonight just saying i'm tired of youtube i
don't want to give 30 to the beast i i i hear that i hear that but it's like saying uh you know my
view is i'm tired of fighting this battle on you know on the beaches of normandy i'm I'm tired of fighting this battle on the beaches of Normandy.
I'm tired of being here and consuming German food.
Well, you have to be there.
We are trying to win control of a platform.
Granted, we want Rumble to take over and win, but in the meantime, we want people who are
on YouTube to still be able to have access to Rumble.
The one thing I don't want is to be like, we want to be an
echo chamber show.
No, no, we want to be an invasive show.
I want to be able to,
like, we want to
take over the mainstream. Force
these people out. And for the time being,
in order to get access to
the younger generation, YouTube is the best means of
doing it. Rumble's a better place
for full shows, which is why I believe it is very likely going to be the case that our Miami show
is going to be Timcast members only. Uh, and then we're going to upload all the clips and
everything like normal, but we can't do it on YouTube. So they're like, we could theoretically
just do it on Rumbleble but that i still kind of
think doesn't i don't know it doesn't do enough i don't know the general idea is we do this full
show as a timcast.com members only thing which supports timcast.com and then we take it off
youtube because youtube is too censorious for the conversation that we need to have
in person with all these people but uh i i really
i really don't see like we have uh the full show is available on all podcast platforms
right after we we wrap the show and then we even give away one of the members only for free
uh every sunday as the sunday uncensored bonus because we're trying to advertise like hey come
hang out you know these things so we should probably put a commercial on that but uh the
purpose of the live show is basically just to be the biggest live show on YouTube for the time slot.
I think we may be the biggest daily, I guess you can call it nightly, but every day we average the biggest audience.
There is no logical reason to walk away from that that control in the space even if we're being surrounded and beaten
down and threatened it's like if we're holding this bridge and we can tell people to go to rumble
and we can defend rumble and we can have alex jones on the air why would we be like abandoned
ship go to rumble and sit with the refugees you know yeah true but we put all of our clubs there
yeah all the clips. Maybe one day.
The other thing, though, is honestly,
a lot of people discount X right now.
That's why I tweeted this ad deal that
we make more money on X from me tweeting bullshit
than we do with all of the clips I get on Rumble.
And I love Rumble.
They just need to get to that point
where they're doing more ad sales
and they're working out better means of generating revenue. The thing for Rumble. They just need to get to that point where they're doing more ad sales and they're working out better means of generating revenue.
The thing for Rumble is that one of the core business models they have is membership.
But we do TimCast.com.
We're building beyond just a single channel.
And so for Rumble, a lot of what they do is they go to a creator and say, hey, we'll pay you X to do your show here.
That's great.
Their show builds members.
The members pay to get exclusive content
and things like that through locals,
or I think they're just calling it Rumble now.
And then like that, that's really great,
but not if you're running a big company
with like 40 employees
and trying to do multiple shows.
We're trying to build a media house,
not be members of a different platform.
So, you know, it is what it is.
No, I appreciate that.
Thanks for taking my call, guys.
Andy, Tim, I've been
following you guys forever. Thanks for risking
yourselves to get the story out there. It's way
cooler than anything Anderson Cooper has ever done.
Thank you.
Thanks, man. Thanks for calling in.
Thanks. Alright, cheers, friend.
And this one
was another
JTurbo25.
Cool names, guys.
You're with us. What's going on?
Hey, how's it going, everybody?
How's it going? Good to see you back,
Serge. Hey, thank you very much.
It's good to be back. I appreciate that. I'm going to eat this whole bag by tomorrow.
Yeah, so
my question is basically for
everybody. It's mainly about
journalism, but obviously everybody can
key in.
I'm Hispanic. I'm Latino. i'm dominican to be more specific and been spending time at my parents house lately after i lost my
job and my mom obviously watches um spanish news or hispanic news and i've noticed it's very left
wing biased and it's probably something i never noticed when I was younger, but now that I'm older and a lot more politically involved, I've noticed it.
So my main question is just being that seeing Hispanics as the biggest minority and a massively growing voter bloc, do you think this has a lot to do with why we are voting democrats so heavily
even though we lean so conservative with our values especially leaning towards the family
yep because conservatives don't do spanish language media you know when i worked for
fusion it's univision i'm in the univision building all democrat and i'm like are republicans
creating like you know teleconservative or something?
They're not.
What a good name, though.
Hey, I just thought of it right now.
You know, I think growing up with the black family, it was kind of the same in that the TV was always on MSNBC, maybe sometimes CNN.
But unfortunately, I don't think the Republicans do a good job at actually
engaging with these communities. They're not opening offices in majority black districts.
They're just kind of writing it off as, oh, well, we'll never win. And that's a losing strategy.
But the media definitely does have a big hold on things. grandparents i love them we beef almost every day over donald
trump and it's just because they won't watch anything other than rachel maddow every night
or like meet the press and these things and they're only getting their information from one
source and i can't really blame them because they're old and they've always trusted the tv
they don't have have the luxury of
being able to freely navigate through the internet and figuring out what to believe
on their own. They've only listened to the TV for decades. So it's tough, but I think it's just
going to take having conversations and Republicans not being so afraid to go into these communities and present
themselves and even not being afraid to lose because it's going to happen but eventually
if you keep at it the tide might turn yeah i feel like you're right i feel like sometimes
conservative media is waiting for people to wake up and then come to them rather than
finding ways to connect with people in the spaces that they already consume media
yeah i think you're right there i think also the republicans don't think that there's anyone ways to connect with people in the spaces that they already consume media.
Yeah.
I think you're right there. I think also that Republicans don't think that there's anyone in those communities
that would have any viewpoints that would
match with the Republican Party, but it's just not true, I think.
Or it's just like lost ground.
They'll find the one and then they just parade around
the one person.
We've done our job here. See you later.
Right.
Yeah, yeah.
Anything to add to that?
Yeah, I know one thing uh thinking back because i remember seeing it a while ago but i remember the republicans used to cater
at least towards hispanics because i remember like i was extremely young but during the 2000 um
convention you know when george w good old w was representing texas he invited like a lot of
high profile mexicans there and like everybody was loving and cheering them and they were
performing and all kinds of things so i know i know the republicans have had it in them in the
past so it's just weird it's like you said it feels like they almost gave up but the democrats
kept going so unfortunately they've kind of taken
a hold of just the minority community in general and it's kind of like us independents that are
trying to pull pull them all out and pull us back like i had to point out to my mom today
watching and i was like i told my mom she's very peace and loving i was like mom you know nicki
haley's a warmonger. And she's like, what?
I'm like, yeah.
She's like shocked because they're not going to tell her that, obviously.
Right.
They want you to forget about war.
They want you to worry about nothing but domestic issues.
So if we were to go on Timcast and probably just talk about, like, whatever the Young Turks said we we argue about we're good but as soon as we start saying giving
real reasons about war and burisma and all this stuff that's a real risk to the machine they hate
yeah uh andy like i think um with there aren't that many Spanish-language television networks available in the U.S.,
but it's from my understanding that from their inception,
they were not as partisan as they are today.
And this is just the, you know, with time, these institutions become left-wing.
And to take them back to the center is very difficult they get
infiltrated and the right needs to counter yeah but i i mean you know the type of work it would
take to build up now a alternative conservative alternative is significant and huge no no have
you seen that video that's going viral of the guy who made the ai language translator it films a video of you
translate it renders turns all of your speech into any language and even lip syncs wow so i saw that
i think they translated like trump to german or something bro as soon as that app comes out
all of my videos are going to be in every language nice oh that's so smart if it works
yeah right because for all you know,
it translates wrong
and I say something like,
and then I'm going to eat
the moon cheese
and throw it at a dog
and it's like,
whoa, whoa, wait, what?
Yeah.
Yeah, it'll be like,
you'll have like that
international reach
like Mr. Beast, you know?
Just start making,
let's do a podcast
where nobody talks
and it's all gag humor
because that's the
international audience.
Anyway.
All right. it was getting late
did you want to wrap up it was that i cut you off okay uh well then good sir was that uh good
yeah that was very sufficient you know we covered it all and you know just want to
a few follow-ups simple you know plug the discord you know got the after after shows
what i like to jokingly call it because we have so many like after shows now i know so if anybody you know we got the events tab there's like five or six
events coming up oh cool if people if people want to join in you could just set notification
it'll notify you later about when it's coming up because like i said we have so many events
coming up soon we we are and We are setting up the coffee shop.
It is coming.
The second floor is going to be the physical club.
Cool.
It is going to be epic.
But you have to come out to West Virginia to hang out there.
But this is the plan.
This is the idea.
So the Timcast.com members club, private.
You can come in.
You got to be a member.
That's the plan, man.
It's going to have like a pool table. I want got to be a member. That's the plan, man. It's going to have a pool table.
I want there to be a poker table.
But then we'll have...
We want to sell skate gear,
have drinks and stuff.
We can basically do whatever because it's a private club.
But that's coming, man.
So all this awesome shit y'all are doing in the Discord is fantastic.
It's going to be very, very cool when we have the physical space
and then people can actually hang out
and we can even have room for activities, man. But anyway uh yeah we'll shut we'll try and figure out better ways to promote
the discord for everything that it is as part of the membership so i do appreciate all the stuff
that you guys are doing and uh thanks for thanks for calling in yeah definitely uh thanks uh good
hearing from you guys today um you know patriot jot J, Andy Ngo, obviously Tim.
Good to see you back again, Serge.
And just one little proposal
for Hannah Clare.
Okay.
You being a Whalers fan
and seeing as they're based
out of my home state of Carolina now,
you want to go to a game with me?
Well, I can't accept any invitations
unless they're screened by my dad
and there's like an exchange of goats
and like property
I'm working on the goat
you know I'm not supposed to know
nice girls don't know how many goats they're worth
yeah I need to find a good goat
because I know a few goat herders
so you're not going to stall me there
thanks for calling in dude
yep yep thank you thank you
take care
gentlemen it has been a pleasure having both of you here on the show thanks for calling in dude yep yep thank you thank you take care cheers man
gentlemen it has been a pleasure having both of you
here on the show good to see you both
and thanks for hanging out thank you man
I appreciate it it's an honor to sit here yeah
right on thanks for coming Andy we'll see you like
come anytime and for
everybody who is a member
you guys rock seriously thank you so much
we are working with chef Andrew Gruel
to get the ball rolling on not just Casper number one,
but creating the process by which we have all of the Caspers opened up.
So he's teaching us about the basics of franchising and how we can get to that point and helping us build it.
So we're hopefully going to be very, very soon set up so that anybody who wants to open one, we can start working with.
But nothing for
now we have to like file paperwork and stuff. So it's going to be epic. And then we're going to
have these, uh, we'll, we'll figure it out, but I'm hoping we can have these cool hangouts everywhere.
Thanks for hanging out and we'll see y'all tomorrow. you