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Episode Date: June 25, 2023

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this is a story by kyle morris a great writer we have to change biden said there's a lot of things we can change but the american people by and large agree you don't need a weapon of war. I'm a second amendment guy. I taught it for four years, six years in law school. And guess what? It doesn't say that you can own any weapon you want. It says there are certain weapons that you can't own. Even when it was passed, you couldn't own a cannon. You can't own a machine gun. I know I'm serious. You know, I love these guys who say the second amendment is, you know, the tree. Well, you're going to do it in your own voice there. You you know i love these guys who say the second amendment it is you know the tree well you're gonna do it in your body voice here you know what i love these guys second amendment is you know the tree of liberty is water with the blood of patriots well you want to do that you want to work against the government you need an f-16 you need something else than an

ar-15 now we're also here with uh joined with ron cole, who is going to be on the main show tomorrow night. The featured guest will be happening in town, so we brought him in. A federal litigator, as we've said before. Is that true, by the way? Let's just go with the first comment that... I mean, I came here in an F-16. You came here in the F-16. Wow.

This is Ron. Now, was it parked or did they drop you off? It's running, actually. Oh, it's running. You've got to turn that thing. Yeah, that with the F-16. Wow. This was wrong. Now, was it parked or did they drop you off? It's running actually. Oh, it's running. Okay. You know what, that's going to close. You've got to turn that thing. Yeah, that's going to be expensive. That's going to disturb the chicken. But you said you were cold in here. Well, not me because I have the beanie. Oh, you do have it. Yes, I do. Now he's not the only one

in a beanie. Ah! But this idea about the Second Amendment saying you can't have these things. Teaching law school is even more terrifying than the idea of his interpretation of the Second Amendment. What you read, Jack, makes it sound as if he seems to think that the F-16— I mean, the F-16 provision of the Constitution, that the Second Amendment says you can't have a cannon. That's factually not true.

There was a merchant who had a ship with cannons on it, and he wrote a letter asking one of the founders if he could have them, and he said, yes, you can. So Biden's literally blatantly wrong. But there's also no list of what weapons you can have and can't have in the Second Amendment. If he means to say that from the very beginning there were regulations and there was a limit, then I'd like to know where he got that also.

But he sure as hell didn't get it in the Constitution. Also, if Biden is correct and it would be impossible for the American people to fight an effective insurgency against a tyrannical government without F-16s, what he's saying is we need to expand the Second Amendment to allow average Americans to own F-16s because the entire purpose of the second amendment is for people to be able to fight back against tyranny i predict i don't think we actually need f-16s to fight tyranny if it comes to that but i but i understand that there is a program being considered now by the federal government to provide each new undocumented uh immigrant with an f-16 excuse me that's an outdated term the term is friend we haven't made yet all right and what better way to make friends than with a future voter but i but i agree give them f-16 as absolutely

well as they say as they say uh you know you know good f-16s make good neighbors well on the contrary of that though we have gavin newsom right we were talking about it earlier this guy's what is he just presented amendment number 29 i think it is i think so hey it's time to amend the 29 so that we can amend the second. It's kind of insane. And what's really weird to me, I don't think we touched about this on the main show, was that it's him that presented this amendment.

Why wouldn't it be Biden? He's running for reelection. We were kind of talking about that, right? Yeah, I was going to go back to you on that. I was going to go back to you on that. Do you think, I mean, you're there in California. Do you think, here's my read on it, that Newsom is, he's not willing to do the RFK thing and say,

I'm going to primary a sitting president, but he's sort of waving his hand saying, you know, I'm here. I'm here if you need me. Put me in, coach. I'm going on Hannity. I'm willing to go toe to toe. And it's a really brilliant question because we know who they don't want to be the nominee. It's RFK.

Well, not only RFK, but Kamala Harris. Oh, gosh. Yeah, obviously. I actually have a really good scenario for this. Not for us, of course, but just just if another scenario for that is that um so gavin newsom is doing what in my opinion ron de santa should have done he should like i'm waiting my turn if you guys need me you know etc uh but of course ron de santa decided to run and i think he shot himself in the foot for any potential real uh scenario for 2028 but here's what i think is

happening i think the dnc is scared about what's happening with donald trump and the indictments and what they are doing i think if you are a common sense person you understand that what they're doing to donald trump is because you're pulling out all the stops to stop this guy and i think that the dnc is willing to even sacrifice one of their own and it's going to be joe biden it's going to come at what this this barisma like a stronger guy well that's what i thought they were doing in 2020 though i thought they were trying to find a burner candidate because they they didn't think they had it well joe biden's already in the inside he's got a lot of political connections i mean foreign

whatever there's a lot of political entities abroad that can help this guy win president a lot of investment in the biden brand but you brought up you brought up a good point how do you get rid of kamala harris so i feel like i put a piece to the puzzle so one of the reasons and i and i heard this on the five on on fox news and it was a democrat talking and she was saying there's no possible real scenario where the black community is going to accept that kamala harris is not going to be next in line if they were to get rid of Joe Biden. The black community? Do you think that's true? I don't buy that.

I agree. I'm skeptical on that, dude. No, no. But no. But no, no. What I am saying is they're still going to vote Democrat because they vote blue. I'm as black as Kamala Harris. They're going to vote blue no matter who.

But what I am saying is they're going to demand that it be her next. So here's what you can do. What you'll try to do is you come after trump and you sacrifice joe biden well now what happens with kamala harris well with kamala harris you just replace her with another black woman i can't think of a more powerful ticket whether it's 2024 or 2028 gavin newsom and michelle obama but who would be president michelle or gavin yeah wouldn't michelle run for president also the no i don't think no no she'll be vice president she'll be gavin newsom's vp pick so the democrats have actually been losing the black vote gradually

since uh obama's uh term ended no it's true no i know but it's not black people voted for trump historic numbers of black people voted for trump trump the second time but not nowhere near majority nowhere near majority that's absolutely correct but it doesn't need to be majority if it falls beneath 50 or 85 percent of the black population voting democrat they can't win and it's approaching that it's actually approaching that but the thing is is that if you sell Democrats a Biden Kamala, it's already pretty unfavorable. But if you give them Gavin Newsom and Michelle Obama, I'm telling you because I hear it from people all the time. One thing about people in California is people that show up for the community are the people that matter to them. Like, I'll be honest, like even sometimes podcasts are just not effective because they people like in the inner city, they're not.

I know. Ron sitting here, Ron's here. Look at me like, like, cut this guy's mic. Podcasts aren't effective. Throw him out of here. But what I mean is for the average voter, like if I go to a street vendor, if I go get tacos, I'm not going to tell the lady. Wow.

Stereotypical much? No. Hey, this is my community. I'm just saying the people that show up over here the people that knock on doors the people that show their faces look republicans are not known now he's always right well republicans are not known for coming up not to show up to these inner city uh places they just don't campaign donald trump the only reason he came to california was to fundraise and again no fault to them but they just ride off california no you know what though here's what i think i think i think to both of your points i think that one of the reasons that

they have invested so heavily and we're going to get back to the f-16s don't worry but the one of the reasons that they've invested so heavily in these ballot operations that they've switched the format that which we hold elections they we've gone from the civic community ritual of an election day where people go out. When I remember going with my father to the local middle school in the gymnasium and you're waiting in line, you had the actual levers and you knew the people. That was the original voter ID. The original voter ID election integrity was that you knew the people working the bulls. They said, hey, John, how's your boy Jack what are you doing oh where's laurie she's

still at work she's coming when she's off shift great and you know hope to see her you know the other kids and then when i got older and i started voting they said hey jack i saw your dad earlier i saw your mom came by is your brother coming in you know it's like it's it's you know the people right they've they've done away with that completely because now it's all about ballots it's just about ballots and a ballot is if you can just get anybody to fill out one of those ballots and then you're paying people to go door to door with these ballots and targeted neighborhoods uh that is why they've switched all this because in order to do that look now you're just paying for votes it's it's it's i find it morally repugnant but you know what it's effective

yeah once again people are reduced to to what they can provide to us right exactly there is not a relationship between yourself democrats never looked at it otherwise never ever they're materialists right man is just a machine right what does he give me what does that machine give me but speaking of machines i do want to get into the more salacious topic at hand of the question of an insurgency in the United States against the U.S. government. Logistically, Red Dawn is a movie that now obviously. Documentary, actually. You know, pre-documentary. Now, obviously, that's about the Soviet Union with the great.

The men in black. That's about the Soviet Union with the great, the father of the great Amanda Milius, John Milius made the film. Incredible, incredible writer, director, filmmaker. He also wrote Apocalypse Now. He's behind the HBO series Rome, which is absolutely fantastic. One of the last mainstream things they let him write. Huge shout out to them. But now, obviously, that's the Soviet Union. That's the Redviet union that's the red army etc but what we're still talking about is a military force versus um civilian population civilian

population kids at town hunters in the woods and there's one thing we know now is that that's what biden is talking about people used to say well listen american troops will never fire on american civilians that'll never happen american state. American cops will never, every single one of these. Kill protesters at the US Capitol. Every one of these uniformed services has shown that they just follow orders and protect pensions.

That's their priority. So you have to definitely look at authority. And as a lawyer, I cannot speak quite as freely as some other people around this table might. Even, you know, even in closed sessions such as we are right, you know, today. But point being is you've seen, we've seen, we've all seen the ability of police. And I say this as someone who, and to your point that, you know, I don't think we can get rid of this system. I think we should take over the system. Correct. and use it for our own design, our own purposes,

because I generally think that this idea of, oh, just, you know, run off into the hinterlands and they'll leave us alone. It's just such a losing argument. It's not going to work. What's the whole live and let live? You need to, you need to fight back. You need to fight to take over the system. Now, obviously, you have to be smart about that. And if you're living in a shooting gallery, then that's probably not a good base of operations for your political counterinsurgency.

But Seamus, you and I were talking earlier about a potential actual insurgency. We basically wrote the scripts in the next Red Dawn. In this. We had a whole conversation about it. Which is exactly what people have been saying About you Jack for how long Quite some time So what would be a better move

Actually if you look at my current You know from your friends at the SPLC I believe their current Their current You're suing them how many times right now Well Let's measure it by years how many years yeah um their current uh the first line is a leader of the anti-democracy hard right it's like

wow that's great better my wikipedia um really good on that i know right i mean like i want that on my cards they called you based in monarchy pills so here we go but here's the deal though is that does that look at this okay so what biden's talking about is an actual insurgency uh against the united states military yeah and i i'm gonna come out and play devil's advocate here to an extent and say look i know there's a lot of people that say hey man two-way 2A, let's go, let's roll, let's do it. No. I just don't think that wide swaths of the country are conducive to an insurgency against the U.S. government. This is the most powerful government in human history, the most powerful military in human history. They will largely be able to take over every major city very quickly.

Any area that has a large military base. And coordination would be impossible. There's no coordination. The second towns would be down immediately. Yeah, immediately. So you would have areas like Appalachia, which would be potentially sort of like a readout, right, if you will.

It's kind of like there are areas like, well, there are areas, like this is why insurgencies were, that the geographies of Vietnam, the geography of Afghanistan, so jungles, mountains, desert, that were, well, mountainous desert, were conducive to insurgency. Whereas there's, Southern Columbia has a huge rebel problem because it's just dense jungle, canopies. This comes up in Sound of Freedom. Actually, they have to go into rebel areas because one of the girls that they're tracking was actually sold to the rebels. And they realized that she's not even with

the original group of pedophiles that they sold her out to the rebel group. So they've got to go into like FARC and all this rebel controlled area. It's, you know, some cool action scenes, actually, in that part, you know, Jim Caviezel and everything. Yeah, I got to see this.

That sounds... It's very, I mean, it's tough. tough there's tough scenes but then it gets into a pretty good action towards the end but anyway point being is that yeah there would be parts of the u.s that would would hold out longer i suppose but that's not a majority yeah i don't either so hold on i don't think anywhere there would be a single state that would. A bunch of naysayers. Two things. A bunch of naysayers who hate America. No, no, no.

Here's the reality. Two things lead me to that. January 6th. All we did, I mean, there's literally Meemaw carrying an American flag, and that was condemned by people like Ted Cruz out of Texas saying that we are domestic terrorists for going in the Capitol. To this day, I have never condemned what happened on January 6th. None of the events.

Because, look, if you're a real 1776er and you want to say, oh, if it was George Washington leading, I would be right there with him. I mean, think about this really today. Put out this scenario. George Washington comes up to you and says, hey, man, we're going to go kill men with families, military men with families, Christians, many of whom you know because of taxes, and we're going to kill them, and we're going to start our own country. Really think about what that means. We're going to go kill Christian men,

or claim to be at least, right? But that's not how the revolution started. No, I agree. They didn't just wake up on the morning. George didn't just go around to people and say, hey, guys, let's go do this. There was a constitutional convention there were delegates there were there were uh chosen leaders who came to the state house

in philadelphia which later became but at the end of the day j6 was a fedsurrection right like ray abs was saying let's go into the capitol and all the protesters there were saying you're a fed get out of here anyone who's telling us to go to the capitol did you see the memes they made from la where they put my face and then i think it was grand old memes made it where he put ray apps from here he said we need to go in yeah we need to get inside i i kind of largely disagree i think january 6th was most no definitely not i i definitely don't i think that there were bad actors but i think you can find them anywhere you can find them in in a lot of them i think there were people actors, but I think you can find them anywhere. You can find them in a lot of them. But the people who pushed for the breach were feds. Like Ray Epps was whispering in the ear of the first guy who breached a barrier.

But at the end of the day, the people who let in were not feds. No, a lot of people, the doors were open for them and they were let in, but they didn't even, there were a lot of people who didn't even realize that they weren't allowed to be there. The doors were held open. That's what I'm saying. So that's my point. This was not like a bunch of people saying, let's storm the Capitol and stop the certification. It was literally

protesters who were goaded by the fence. Instead of thinking about this idea of, let's raise an army, let's fight the government. That'll be destroyed. Immediately. You guys are communists. You guys are all communists. But what I do think

is theoretically possible is how'd they do in michigan to destabilize certain areas not in other words not not set peace battles and not even insurrection battles as we know them you know choose your disastrous american attempt to deal with uncertainurgencies of your choice but there's all sorts of alternate history novels about this and right right i mean from the second look what if the confederacy took over a few states and continued exactly i mean you you you can make it costly uh but the problem is as you point Jack, people don't really appreciate, and Biden, whoever was whispering into his earpiece at that moment, is right about this. Ray Epps.

Ray Epps actually is in control of the regime. That's why you can't charge him. He would never charge himself. overcharge himself there is really no way there is it is impossible to say that the second amendment is a meaningful check on and i'll tell you something else so there there is a you know a segment among jewish people who uh and and we might have even been the thread once where we discussed this issue um if the first thing the naz Nazis did was round up all the guns and look what happened. They killed, you know, two-thirds of the Jews in Europe. You think that if the Jews had guns, okay, and by the way, Jews and guns, Israelis is

a different category, okay? Jews of Europe and guns was not ever really a thing the close they did have kind of paramilitary groups that like bacon wasn't but really really small scale the point is though even even your best case scenario self-defense uh warsaw ghetto uprising the germans had so many things going they were they had already completely lost the war by the time of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising. They pulled out some pocket change just to deal with

the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising. It took them, yeah, it took them a couple of weeks. They did have to spend a couple of weeks. Right.

But that's all they had to spend. Right, and the entire city of Warsaw was leveled. Leveled. Literally,

while Soviet troops stood outside with their arms folded but oh yeah oh yeah but that's a that's a so they were the entire city was leveled that's why if you go to poland now uh i i had a friend who just um she just we used to work together and said hey you know we're going to poland um with some people where should i go in warsaw and i and honestly as as as you know as sad as it is you know and there's there's great memorials there's great museums the old city of warsaw warsawa is is like this tiny little district of the city because most of it was destroyed in the war and then rebuilt by the

soviets so it's you know it's like soviet block you mentioned vietnam and how the jungle on the other hand is is gorgeous how mountains and jungles were conducive to insurgencies but now with air air power not only was the surface being napalm to hell in vietnam the vietcong were trying to fight with russian and chinese weapons russian weapons they were living underground for like 10 years in tunnels so unless people are willing to live underground it's not on the radar and even then you're going to lose. Hold on, I have to, because we've heard a lot of pro-arguments and I haven't had a chance to make the anti-argument.

I disagree with you guys because you were pro-communism arguments that you guys were making there by saying that the people could not be effective in an insurgency. So I think the problem is, and by the way, I don't think at scale, so here's what I'll say. I want to make clear, and I don't think that you guys think this, but I think what a lot

of people believe about a potential second American revolution or an insurgency where people are fighting the government is they picture this as an open conflict where the americans are on one side with their ars and the government is on the other side with their m4s and their tanks but what would what would happen is they would take over certain cities and then you would have insurgents who would basically go around and have these small skirmishes in battle and again i'm not i'm not saying i advocate for this under like a just war framework but you would have people climbing up to towers and just sniping soldiers on street corners we are responding to what joe biden said today and so here's there's two things

with what joe biden said we're not advocating for any of these no no no of course not of course not but what i'm saying is firstly it is a little bit strange that Joe Biden has repeatedly threatened the American people with military power. Sounds like something a fascist would do, right? Locking up his political opponent while he threatens the American people with military force and tells them they're powerless against him. Sounds a little fascistic. I'll also say that different parts of the country would obviously fare differently. Something that could happen is rival nations who don't necessarily agree with the cause of the insurgents could start to fund the rebel groups who are fighting the U.S. government. Maybe even a very large rival nation that is actually on the decline, but remains and always has been extremely opportunistic and would and could see nothing about or maybe even two maybe two action maybe one real communist nation and one de facto

communist nation i mean there's a gigantic iou coming from the russians whether putin would be around by the time this is true but it's just true. But China, what an opportunity. Like you said, they wouldn't have to be the least bit sympathetic to the revolutionaries. Here's how I think it would shake out. Can I just make one more point before, I just want to make one more point. Before we denounce you.

Before I'm denounced, it's not just a question of how effective or victorious it would be. I think that is an important question. You're talking about the scale of the conflict. There's also a question of how difficult, there's also a question of how difficult you make it for the tyrants, right? Because they have drones, they have bombs.

Ladies and gentlemen, he's just saying what I said with a lot more words. No, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, hold on. Cause you guys, you guys, you want to total up the number of words you guys said and compare it to what I'm saying.

I'm happy to, but what I will add is, um, shots fired that people, I mean, people on the ground. so i've spoken to people and i have friends who are in iraq and afghanistan and one thing i remember them saying that really stuck with me is in afghanistan there was a sniper who was picking people off and they were terrified

and it made them not want to do their job and they didn't say oh well i was comforted because we have drones and because we have nukes and because we have tanks they said i was terrified i didn't want to do my job the goal of an insurgency is to get the soldiers to want to leave and for the people who are actually on the ground there to abdicate and refuse to fight in that area i will tell you that during i remember solzhenitsyn yes and i do remember solzhenitsyn saying you can't really think the russians are going to ever leave afghanistan do you the russians aren't like the Americans. They will just keep pouring death on the Afghanis.

Guess what? He was wrong. He was wrong because that is what the power in the right terrain with the right motivation. By the way, Afghanistan has a history of being unconquerable to everyone. Here's- And someone in the chat actually just said, and I'm kind of like scrolling through some of it, but someone just said,

look, I think realistically 90% of people would just, you know, 90% of the country would fold if the government takes the money, the food, shuts down the internet. Absolutely. And that was a point I was actually trying to make. Dude, the government doesn't have to threaten you with F-15s, you know, and they proved this during the pandemic, the government doesn't have to threaten you with F-15s. And they proved this during the pandemic.

You know what they have to threaten you with? Your security. 90% plus of people, if you're slightly inconvenienced, you give in. So all these people that say like, oh, well, if they try to come to my house. Imagine how many people will be informed on. Oh, they got a flag up in that house. Kick them out. Don't let these commies blackpill you.

No, I'm just saying, man. If you think they're rationalizing, you'd all be ratted out. Exactly. Remember the pandemic? You'd be ratted out. Oh, yeah. My friends are cool. Your friends would rat you out, though. Oh, yeah. You're already on

so high up the list. That being said, we've got defense in depth, the same as the Russians do in Zaporizhia. You know, we've got defense in depth at the Pozo compound, and I have multiple readouts with which I can find myself. So, yeah, those people around right now, sure, but they ain't going to find me.

Yeah, but let them come into Brooklyn. We'll show them a thing or two. Brooklyn's gonna help us. I know. But look, man, you threaten a man and his family to turn off his water. And hey, you're not able to shop at the grocery store until you turn in those guns or whatever. I'm telling you, 90% plus of people, even those like hardcore. It's not only turning those guns.

It's tell me who bought guns. Who are you harboring? Who are you? Like what other people have those like hardcore it's not only turning those guns it's tell me who bought who are you like what other people are have thought like you how do you guys communicate you there's no shadow of a doubt dude this comes up in red dawn this comes up in red dawn they make the guy swallow the uh the transmitter that he's the son of the mayor they make him swallow the transmitter and then he knows and he goes back to his friends and they find out and that's how the soviets find them and that's where and they kill him and they shoot him and look maybe i don't know where you all like were originally doing the pandemic but you guys got to remember man i was in los angeles i wasn't bro i wasn't allowed i wasn't allowed to go i got kicked out of restaurants i tried to pull out the veteran

car like dude you're gonna kick out a u.s veteran that's because i was they they didn't care they don't care they're like you're wearing the mask and you're gonna put the mask on your children and you will show us the vaccine dude i'm telling you man like it's gonna happen you know what i mean so i agree that a lot of people throughout this country absolutely are gonna cave in what i is, I think, especially in places that are really... No, well, not me, obviously. But what I'm saying is... You can destabilize and you can make them... See, the real question, I think, is can you hit a breaking point? Can you hit a point where they would actually not withstand it if they would say, we're never going to negotiate, we're never going to compromise? Can you impose costs on them

that would require them to however disguised it might be have to compromise exactly because that has the potential that i don't think there's a reason they're trying to get our guns now though right i don't think it's because we're saying they know if it becomes i don't think that's why you don't think so i'm curious why do you guys think they have the gun control because because here's here's what's really going to happen is that they they've realized that like like Gavin Newsom says that about the 29th we're gonna bring the 29th amendment it's gonna be great Sean you'll see that's a good one and it's gonna be so great shot what are you thinking all your red states we're the ones who make all

the money you guys suck it down look look here's here's what they've really done and ron you know this is better than me even that look at kyle rittenhouse look at daniel penny who didn't even use a gun what they've done is they've realized that they're never going to get rid of the second amendment because they can't get rid of the right to self-defense so what are they going to get rid of the right the ability to actually use your guns for self-defense they'll take away the right to self-defense. So what are they going to get rid of? The right, the ability to actually use your guns for self-defense. They'll take away the right to self-defense so that if you affect the use, if you exercise your right to self-defense, which I've always said is the positive expression of the right to life, because you do not have a right to life if you

are not able to defend your life in a positive manner, the way Kyle Rittenhouse did in those Reads of Kenosha, which is probably the most famous example that we've ever seen, that they realized that, look, if they can't take your right away at the ballot box, if they can't take your right away at the amendment level, they'll take it away in the courtroom, they'll take it away in the jury box. There's something else. And they will do it in every single district that they possibly can. They also want to make a political statement.

Flip side of what? Maybe it's different from what you're saying. Our people, our side, our base, our donors are against guns. And we're the anti-gun party. We're not really, were they really worried that Kyle Rittenhouse, if he were not in prison, was going to be out on the streets shooting people? Obviously not. Are they really worried that American citizens, if they're allowed to buy guns, are going

to actually form an insurrection? No. What they're doing is they're slapping down the red districts. They're slapping down, they're reassuring their base, their donors, their supporters, the media, the institutions. We've got this.

We're going to turn these people and the infrastructure, financial, cultural, economic, industrial, cultural, economic, industrial that supports them pay to be associated with our political enemies. Yeah. And that's why I was bringing it up earlier where it's like Rittenhouse, I think he got a fair deal because he had good representation. I think he had a good fair judge that saw the facts and was like, look, there's just not enough evidence here. A body of his peers.

Not just not enough evidence, but the evidence shows that he was acting in self-defense. Correct. But here's the thing is that that was such a unique case. And like the guy from New York, the New York subway guy, right? Jackie, we were just talking about. Daniel Penny. He will be convicted. I would say right now. He's going to run. But that's what I'm saying.

And I actually got into a huge argument with Cernovich which was like, this is why you need to abandon the cities never ever stand up for good people and i was like bro what uh uh in my opinion what the fuck you want on this episode what a stupid statement you know what i mean like what what an ass and i statement i told and i replied to cernovich i'm like bro what the hell like as a christian i do right not because i fear consequence of what the city's gonna do for me i do right in the face of evil because i am called i am commanded to do so by my god i'm not gonna i'm not imagine like watching an innocent girl get brutally raped or or more violent or whatever the case might be and you're like well i'm in a blue district i better not

interfere because i fear prison bro what like i'm coming after this guy. And if the radical DA wants to sentence me, then so be it. Mike says things to make points. He doesn't necessarily prescribe that you follow his literal plan. You know what I mean? No, but we went back and forth. But if Mike were there.

He was adamant for it. He was like, no, what a stupid thing. Anthony, because he follows me. He's like, Anthony, you got a family. Why don't you think about your children? So you want to be this virtuous Christian guy and sit in prison. If Mike were there, he would do the right thing. I'm sure.

But the problem is that a lot of these followers, including the ones that follow like Kattert and all that stuff, they see these statements. They hear these people saying, this is why you never do what's right because you are punished for it. But look, going back to the day. What are you living for you living for right exactly so then what's the point of being so why exactly and that was my point and he got so like angry i don't know if he unfollowed me after it but to the point of that i think that's why you need to go back just the last point right here that's why we need to fight for the cities that's why tim pool and i wanted to tell him here today dude you backtracked you you you saw the daniel penny case but those people voted for that no no they all voted for that not really though man because there's a lot of people there's a lot of people that don't know

what's going they don't nobody okay let's be honest nobody votes for more murder but they don't you vote you are why does larry crash keep getting elected in philadelphia right i understand that but what i'm saying is the average person the average city dweller i'm telling you man because i i speak with these people all the time when roe v wade happened there were street vendors there hispanic barely any english but they were selling to the crowd they said what are they protesting in spanish they told me because they know i speak spanish i'm like they're protesting for the right to abortion up to nine months and they're like what in the hell yeah and they were just so shocked and i'm like what do you think about abortion and like dude we have our kids here my husband's over there on that corner selling to

the crowd because we need to make money i'm here and we got the kids with us and they help us like i would never abort a child i'm like by chance do you vote and they're like oh we're not really political like we just we just want to make. We came to this country to work. But again, it's not that they're voting for it. But this is the problem because we've seen this time and time again where George W. Bush had this whole thing about like, oh, the more immigrants we bring from traditionally socially conservative areas, they're natural conservatives.

Remember natural conservatives? They're going to vote with the right. Finally, they're going to be right. And it's just not true. It's never borne out in voting populations. With some, I'll hold Florida out as a recent potential, recent potential, but by and large, that is not the voting patterns we see.

The highest density of Catholics is in Southern California. And they all vote Democrat. No, they don't. they just don't vote or they just don't vote that's about we're not reaching those voters that's what i'm saying like we're not reaching those voters why because california continues to be overlooked as just give it up just give up california but there are so many potential voters but the republican party would rather have you know and and i say this because i'm a state delegate i go to all these fancy dinners they they waste all this money on on nice centerpieces look man what one of the biggest things that one of the biggest problems there was just a huge recall attempt on newsom right and we successfully recalled them but i

ended up failing because i thought he was still in office no i understand i've said the recall was successful. What do you mean? The election. Because we made the election happen. That's what I'm saying. So the recall, it was a successful recall. But then he just got reelected.

But then he ended up getting reelected, right. Because the way it works is for a special election like that, everyone has to rally all their votes on one candidate. It's not like where they have a primary and then a general election it's just whoever gets the most votes that's how schwarzenegger got in you had like 12 republicans running and larry elder i think had the most votes actually schwarzenegger got in because he was a rocket scientist and they needed that at the time that's right screw your patriotism you know but it was it was it was an election like that when schwarzenegger first got a. It was a special election, yeah.

But Jack, I actually spoke about it on Hispanic votes was slowly trending towards conservatives. It does. And historically, it's always been at least 30%. Like you said, forget the Cubans. We're not talking about Cubans. I'm going to hold Florida out as a very special case because you get Cubans that do go to Florida, but you know, Hispanics and, and I'm not going to speak for Hispanics, but the idea is that, that like Hispanics are a monolith. It's like, Oh, all Hispanics are the same. It's just not true. Yeah. Of course. Right.

Go, go up to a Puerto Rican and call them a Mexican and find out what happens. Oh yeah. Yeah. It's not going to go off. But that's the thing is that if you're going to be in the community, like I am, you, you have to understand, okay, well, what are your problems? Right. So right so one example of crime is really high right now right misogynist and no one's arguing that and you know inadvertently yes people are voting for those policies because like hey if you vote down gun rights you're voting for more crime right a lot of people don't understand that right exactly but people don't correlate that they don't correlate those they think they're doing good

because that's what they're being told like hey, hey, the reason why crime is so high is because, and guess what? Republicans are not showing up to do a counter argument. And so, for example, street vendors, people that sell ice cream, a lot of these people, immigrants, right? They're here on residency, whatever. Elotes. It's like corn. They are being targeted right now by high crime. Well, there's a socialist activist out there.

The Democratic Socialists of america are working with them to fundraise for them well the republican party you know what they could be doing arm them why aren't you gathering up all these street vendors and saying you know what's better than getting attacked and getting a gofundme for eight thousand dollars at a time how about we train you and we have you have your constitutional right to a gun now think about this it's twofold you arm the street vendors against crime the second one is how will democrats defend this they're gonna be like oh well we don't believe in constitutional carry this is that it's still hard to do it they're not gonna give them permits yeah it's still hard to do it we haven't got

exactly exactly right so the argument is going to be like well we're not just going to give them like guns like we're against guns so then your argument as a republican should be so you are saying that these immigrants that are hardworking are not entitled to a Second Amendment constitution. That's what they said about the Koreans. You make it about them. You make it, and then you tell them,

look, look at what you're doing to the Hispanic community. But that's also a great example of my point though, that LA had the rooftop Koreans, LA had the LA riots, had lessons not learned went on right and and we're like show me the lesson learned like it's become it's only become progressively worse progressively worse progressively blue uh progressively in that direction we convince people just get out of there so more people leaving california who's staying back to fight no one because everyone's like well i don't know if you know i i so i i

wouldn't say that the reason is just because everyone's been leaving california people have been moving out of there but a lot of blue democrats have also left california like this is an issue they're having in texas there's a huge issue in arizona correct um but it's also an issue with republicans made it more made it made it more purpler as i like to say yeah in some of these two because like i'll go to phoenix right more popular as i like to say yeah in some of these because like i'll go to phoenix right because so when i go to see turning point when i go to do work out of there i was there last week so i was in phoenix for a couple of days um before i went out to la because it's like a quicker flight so we do the show there and you you go to phoenix

airport and you're surrounded by california people it's it's like you can just tell it's culturally californian the people are Californian. They're dressed like Californians. They are Californians. It should be illegal, by the way. No Californian should be allowed to flee. I'd be all for it. And a lot of red people would be all for it, too.

And I guess what I mean to say is they're not conservative Californians. It's just you can tell these are California people. And by the same token, you see a lot of Hollywood celebrities are now buying land and buying houses houses in scottsdale you want to know what it is so guys i i hate to cut in i really hate to cut in we got to go to colors i do need the heads on there for this right can i just one last thing i promise really quick no please do it, please do. A Tennessean told me today, because somebody's moving to Tennessee from California. A lot of people in California are moving to Tennessee.

You know what they told me the problem is? The problem is, like, I've lived in Tennessee for generations. The problem with blue staters, specifically California, is that they've lived under democratic rule for so long they don't know anything else. So they come to Tennessee where we have these neocons trying to strip away gun rights in tennessee and you know what the response is from blue staters it's like yeah but my state was way worse at least you guys have it nicer here so that's that's the problem california republican is not the same as a tennessee republican absolutely not exactly yeah and they're willing they're willing they don't vote well exactly they're willing to not vote against because they're like look i'm an implant i don't

want any problems i know we've messed up our state but let's be honest guys this is way better oh we used to have it worse so they're just okay with it i like the idea of making people stay in a state for a couple years before they get state voting rights i I agree with that. Anyways. Alrighty. We're going to callers now. Sorry everyone. We don't mean to keep you waiting. I don't know if you already live,

but I want to let you speak first because you're a Singaporean. Hey Singapore. How you doing? You're unmuted, but I can't hear you. Give it to me. Give it to me. Isn't it really true of so many of us, though?

I can't tell if he's muted. I'm going to check with you. Unmuted, but I can't. There's something muted here. Come on. Dude, during the pandemic, I can't. Just hold on there one more minute. Number one soundbite.

You're on mute. You got to unmute yourself, you know? Sorry, am I muted? Maybe it's because we're speaking English. Tim Caps is in the chat. No, it's just the account. No, no, no, no. Wouldn't it be funny if Tim called in?

He's like, I just want to say this is the worst show ever. Like Tim. That is not me. To be in Singapore. Or in Chinese, do you want to? Is that Singaporean? No, it's Chinese. Sounds like Mandarin.

Mandarin. Yeah, Mandarin. Is that what they speak in Singapore? It's one of the languages, yes. One of, one Mandarin, yeah. Is that what they speak in Singapore? It's one of the languages, yes. One of, yeah. So why is this? So yesterday, everyone, they had the... If you want to speak Chinese, you can.

But you have to speak more... One day, I'm going to find out you don't actually speak Chinese and you've been faking it this whole time. There's no faking. I think it's false. False things. All of them. Definitely.

Yes. That's not Tim Pool. I don't know who he is. It looks like Jack Posolivic. It's me. He has Beanie. The beanie. I have a beanie too.

Please. Cabezo. Is that his head? Cabezo. Cabezo. My Spanish is So? Cabezo. Cabezo. Mi español es... So can we take any other colors maybe? Yeah, let's go.

Well, I think the issue is that the device here is... So yesterday, everyone that was watching, we had to switch to this computer in order to do the premiere for the... What was it called? Something money? Yeah, Game of Money. Game of Money, that's correct. So when that happened, I think maybe we have

switched the device. I can't quite tell. I'm trying to find that right now. Is it a hardware issue? Can we switch that while we're still live? Yeah, we can. I'm just trying to figure out where to do that. I don't really use Discord as many of you people know.

I'm just trying to figure it out as we go here. That's where all the base chats well serge is is looking you you mentioned fight in it by ruskiya тоже anthony you a couple times you've used the terminology the uh fight for the cities but how do you mean exactly because i imagine you don't go mean go fight punch and no he means street by street yeah like what's an example of fighting for so one thing that i've been doing since 2019 one thing that i've been doing since 2019 is we go clean the city so i do community cleanups we just did one with squat presser before that i had been doing them for several years now so you have to actually get into the community so the way you fight back is you inform people so we make little

pamphlets that we hand out to people because everyone's always curious like who are these 30 young gentlemen or young people that are out cleaning the streets streets that have been you know basically abandoned by the politicians. When you say clean the streets, do you mean like, like sweet or do you, no, yeah.

So we do everything. So we do everything. Like Peaky Blinders or, or, you know, Taxi Driver, you know, some,

someday a hard rain's going to come and wash all this filth off the streets. There's a lot of people that have lived there for decades and they're so old that you just can't take care of their homes. So we do gardening on their stuff. Oh, nice. We got a caller. Sounded like it. It's not a caller. We almost got a caller. Quanny, can you speak again and see

if there's some sort of issue here? Yeah, okay. I see it's active there. Can anyone else in the chat hear Quanny? Because we cannot hear him at the moment. Are you in the live chat, by the way? Ian has just entered the live chat. Yeah, I'm hearing stuff from Discord. Right, so the issue, Quan-y, is that

we cannot hear anything you're saying. Can we try another caller real quick? My apologies. I'm going to mute you now quickly, and I'm going to try a different caller here give me a moment uh let's talk to aqueduct studio aqueduct studio you are now on the air no not so much same issue uh i i don't know what happened here guys but uh yesterday we had the game of money um premiere on this computer and i wonder if it was it changed the audio device i haven't had time to really look

that up since then for your discord settings you go into video and voice yeah and i was just on the video there's got to be because i just heard sound effects from discord yeah so this input device is the right input device and everything um i didn't want to do it in this studio just so you guys are aware i didn't want to do that yeah i didn't want to do that um but it just was the way that it all worked out uh they needed to do it last second so that's what happened um i don't know exactly why there's got to be some setting for like other members then that's separate from the uh setting for sound effects because like when ian just came in the chat i heard that so that means discord is sending definitely and i mean i'm i'm here at the at

this at the place where it would be to change it like all of the technically this should be working i don't understand why it's not feeding through like the obs has a audio channel set up discord is set to send to the audio channel that's set up in obs yep it's in this voice widget right here this is fox widget yeah everything is working as it should be when they when they talk in discord do you see it going up and down in obs uh no there's no the thing about it's when they're when they're speaking in discord here i mean we'll just troubleshoot really fast i can see their name if aqueduct studio would you mind saying something quickly for me see that green it's prompting right there and it's prompting also up here on the actual screen as you guys can see but for some reason

it's just not uh i mean i can try and reset the defaults i guess but i then i'd have to go and do a whole bunch of other things as well worst case scenario we could take some text yeah i guess we could take the text questions if you guys want to let's do that if you guys are in the uh in the callers if you guys want to just uh type out your questions but see see if there's anything you can do while while they doing that, because it'd be awesome if we could resurrect this. Right. Let's just see if we can go. I really liked the calls last time I was here.

It was really cool. Yeah, it's always cool when people call, and I love getting their comments, their feedback. Honestly, talk about community and a way to counteract a global centralized authority attempting to take over the world. It's with community, and it's with tech like this, using it for the right way. Let me make a

social political legal point. Uh-oh. No. Actually, I'd rather... We'd really rather you didn't. We'd really rather you just keep quiet. You know, push the microphone away. Push the microphone away. You know, we like this guy.

I wasn't sure why this guy was allowed to come in today. You know, I like to have a little party here every once in a while. But, you know, from time to time. Never mind. No, no, no. It's okay. Do you think?

No, actually, no. We wanted to hear it. No, sorry. No, no, no. I'm not sure you really did. No, we really did. There's a community in New York City, Orthodox Jewish community, which is an object lesson in many respects for how you can stay in the city, how you can build institutions, how you can actually flourish in the city. what their six the threat that their success poses symbolically and otherwise to many many

institutions that are vested in the existing system here's the problem your street level advocacy your your building of community of what the necessary communal structures is difficult to divorce from the very deeply entrenched welfare state. Do we want to do it real quick? He's making a point. The man's making a point. Awkward X2, would you mind saying something

and see if we can hear you? Hello. Let's wrap Ron's point really quick. I want to hear the rest of your point, because he's going to help us. The distribution of benefits. Save America. Government is so intrusive and so omnipresent in the lives, especially of lower income people, that they will use, they, the existing system, will put the squeeze, and also communal leaders will put the squeeze on the people they consider to be their constituents.

So what's my point? Jewish organizations, Orthodox Jewish organizations in New York have been very reluctant, and understandably because of how the elections always come out, no matter what. Trump took 90% of the Orthodox Jewishish vote including in new york city and that and also in that was the only republican the republican pickups in the house are largely a result of orthodox jewish voting in new york state but at the end of the day the government structures the local government structures are still controlled by Democrats. And that's a really risky strategy because if your community is perceived as bucking the Democratic leadership, you have a lot to lose. So that has to be taken into consideration as well.

Yeah, I get it. Like benefits. Let's get to these calls because we've waited long enough. All right, so Aqueduct Studio, what would be your question? How are you? Hi. Hey, what would be your question? How are you? Hey, what's up, guys? I'm a Cian here. So my question is to Jack Posobiec, our Chinese expert here.

You're Chinese? Yes. And what are you an expert in? Nothing. Martial arts? Kung fu, actually. Sorry. The Messenger reported that three sources are saying there's an evacuation plan for Taiwan.

And I wanted to know if you think that China sees Taiwan as a target it can take as early as this year. And a separate question from that would be if you think China invading Taiwan would help or hurt Trump in 2024. Yeah, so there's a couple of pieces to this. From what I've been told is that what they're referring to is this evacuation plan for not all of Taiwan. That's for American citizens or AMSATs within Taiwan. What they're talking about is a NEO, a noncombatant evacuation operation. hotspots in the world the United States Navy United States embassies are always tasked with being uh being worked on so these logistics that includes hospitals that includes embarkation sites if you've got a place like like for example Ukraine would have gone through this uh in in the la the final days that being said um just because they're working on the plan doesn't necessarily mean that there's Intel out there that says something like this is imminent um I particularly don't necessarily say that I I think it's imminent because I think Xi Jinping is in a

very strong position right now uh he wants to take Taiwan by osmosis through cultural and generational Force the old and I've said before a million times and we have a whole thing called the China files which just set up the China files meme that you guys can go and like share it's a little red meme the way Mao had the little red book. And it's got a QR code where you can watch them all. And so I go really in depth. And there's a whole chapter just on Taiwan where I said, look, you know, I think the only thing that would trigger a Taiwan invasion would be if Xi Jinping were threatened internally within the party.

But he just doesn't have internal threats right now. Not anymore. Because, well, no, not anymore. Because they're all been disappeared. Yes.hai gang the youth league and particularly they're they're one of their main leaders um jang zemin has been you know the old toad i mean he's he's basically done i mean he's like 96 yeah he's he's just it's just it ain't happening it just ain't happening so uh for them to make a push like that a huge uh obvious breach especially when they've been publicly somewhat remember originally they

were uh negative towards russia in terms of the of launching a war of aggression into ukraine and then eventually they you know they sided with russia but you know i don't necessarily think that that china was would be willing to take a step like that unless xi jinping were extremely forced that being said if taiwan were to uh declare independence or are pushed for some kind of military retaking of some of the outlying islands or any number of things a naval uh dust up that turns into another conflagration a trap sub if you will um from one of these disputed islands where a group of activists goes in i mean there are there are many things that could flash this up and uh i guess to your last question would this

help or hurt trump i think it would help trump yeah right i think it would help trump because you know we we've seen that the biden administration is extremely soft on on china you know sure they're you know biden's willing to say oh he's a dictator he's this and that but at the same time you know his his son his son is taking so much money from him uh anthony blinken goes over there like a clerk kowtowing making these great which which by the way going beyond the typical one china policy the one china policy which goes back to the shanghai communique of saying that the united states believes that taiwan and china uh you know people's republic of china are both part of one entity which is a very vague kind of status quo statement that every president has gone back

on including reagan um going all the way back to uh carter that and you know starts off with nixon of course going to china that uh now actually saying we do like unequivocally saying we do not support taiwanese independence is is beyond the typical one China statement and I think that's there's a reason for that and the reason is that you know they're being told to say it true it's a great question though it's a great question yeah I agree Biden's a great diplomat by the way I'll just say so good do you remember when he basically told us a whole story he made up about the time he called Putin mean yeah he's like's like, I told him, I don't think you have a soul, man. And he said,

we understand each other. I was like, what? You're the leader of our country and you called a foreign adversary mean? He wants you to think he's mean. That means you're intimidated by him, idiot. I think you're thinking of Stephen Seagal. No, no. Joe Biden literally said that. He said, I said, I don't think you have a soul.

You don't have any hair on your legs let's uh let's finish up and let's how do you feel with the answer or is anything else you'd like to add but that was great thank you jack i bought my pillow because of you so i appreciate that man thank you seriously y'all have a good night you like it do you like it oh man yeah i love it yeah that's what we like to hear me on twitter um i said something about a my pillow like like how can you prove that it's effective and you're just like you just gotta try it and i and i did man thank you that's that's the you see there's um tanya really does do a good job wow wow that's it right under the bus after i let you come into the third hour and uh let me come in i know right that you were knocking at

the door the whole time how do you how do you know how do you know a drummer's at your door how he doesn't know when to come in oh drummer jokes we got drummer jokes still it's still playing in my head what's what's the last thing a drummer says in a band hey guys i wrote a song hey there you go okay saw the movie whiplash i find that offensive that's great what do you um what do you call a drummer who just broke up with his girlfriend homeless that is brutal man okay 60 years on this earth i did not know there was a drummer category of

humor oh yeah yeah there is And I've been in dance. There's also a bass player, I guess you could say. It's a little bit less hateful. There's kind of an anger towards drummers, I found. But anyways, Connie, you are now with us again.

You must unmute yourself, though. Hey, Connie. Hey, guys. How's it going? Kwani we've been waiting to hear from you for a while now How are you? Can you hear me? Yes Loud and clear

I can hear you Being from Singapore I got so much things I want to talk about guns but I'll stick true to my question so as for the Catholics in the room

what are your view about the current Pope's position about being more LGBTQ friendly and how does it affect the Catholics in that regard and also as you guys the current pope's position about being more lgbtq friendly and how does it have catholic the catholics in in in that regard and also as as you guys are generally more uh in favor of

states rights and decentralization does that not also contradict with the centralization that you see in catholicism uh so yeah there's a few ways to answer that i'll i'll uh give my answer and then tim can also let you know how he feels, because I know he's been studying Catholicism a bit recently. But basically— What, you don't want to hear from the Protestant? Pope Francis? No, are you kidding me? Come on.

They never want to hear from us. Are you kidding me? No. It's like, lions, opinions of sheep, etc. They have questions about— I love my Protestant brothers. Serious religions. So, here's what I'll say to you. With Pope Francis, this is an important

thing for people to understand papal infallibility does not mean the pope is correct in every single thing he says it means that when the pope speaks ex cathedra when he's invoking his authority as pope to declare on a specific moral question where he literally says that he's basically and seamus breakdown how many times has that actually happened there's some debate about that but it has it's been very infrequent it's been very infrequent I can't give you an exact number because there is debate on it but it very very very rarely happens it's like a dozen papacies yes exactly and most most popes never speak ex cathedra it's it's extremely oh so they're giving their personal opinions and then they'll tell you if they're going to come out and speak. Exactly. Yes, exactly. So when the Pope speaks, unless the qualifications for ex cathedra are mentioned, which I sort of spelled out, invoking his authority as successor of Peter, like declaring it with that authority.

And it's one of these moral questions, right? And I would encourage everyone to just double check on all of this. Ian, it's actually Latin for from the chair. From the chair, exactly. So the vast majority of times when the Pope speaks, like 99.9% of the time, he's just giving you his personal opinion. And it doesn't reflect any change in church teaching. And I'll also mention this. The question of sodomy and whether that's moral is

not something that any pope has the authority to change this is part of natural law this is literally built into nature a pope could not come along and say we've changed church teaching on this but i think the deeper question there is this this comes to francis's embrace of um synodism and sign on these these sign odds yeah it's weird where you know it's where it's it's it's it's the hegelian thing again right yeah it's we're gonna we're gonna go dialogue we're gonna bring dialectic together we're we're gonna remove the uh the the hierarchical view we're gonna remove the historical view traditional view the legalistic view the doctrinal view of the church and instead just you know bring a bunch of people you know just you know kind of bring a couple of people together over the vatican have a little bit of a party

you know see how it shakes out you know because i i just got um i i just i wanted to double check on this i got a more precise delineation of the uh qualifications for an ex cathedra statement from ewtn here one intends to teach two by virtue of his supreme authority three on a matter of faith and morals and four to the whole church does he need to get like cardinal approval to speak for the church or they have that vest no no no that's him no he has that approval yeah he has that through being elected by the cardinals then he would be is it come to a point so technically yes but yeah to a point where a pope was not well mentally well and and would not step down and it's like we just can't take anything this guy's saying seriously

because he's there was a pope who was mentioned then well he actually dug up a prior pope and put him on trial yeah he exhumed his body and and put him on trial about that one guys well like i said not everything the pope does is infallible. Popes are sinners. I mean, what do I say about the fact that Peter denied Christ three times? But I've talked to a lot of Catholics that take everything he says

as like undeniable truth. And that's kind of like why Catholics are talking. Maybe in LA, yeah, I could see that. Well, jeez. Well, there's so much anger to be real.

No, no, no. I'm actually, I'm not being mean. I'm not being mean. I'm actually, I'm not trying to be mean. I'm saying I agree with you. That probably is the case. I don't doubt that. I'm with, I'm not being mean. I'm not being mean. I'm actually, I'm not trying to be mean. I'm saying, I agree with you. That probably is the case.

I don't doubt that. I'm with a lot of traditional Catholics who are like, why is he saying this stuff? But I actually do believe that in more liberal parts of the country, there are Catholics who go, look at this. It's a statement we have to believe when it's just his opinion. But please continue. No, no, no. That was just it. You're saying that not everything is

taken, you know, whatever. But I'm like, dude, I know some Catholics that like, I post it sometimes on my stories, like something that the pope does or something that he says or whatever and then the catholics come after me and they're like oh dude like don't question the descendant of peter like he disguised the pope answer and i'm like i just think it was a wrong opinion i didn't yeah there's a there's a lot of that's a big sentiment within the church but those catholics are wrong you know the answer the you know the answer i guess the answer to the other question by the way about um that uh kwani was asking about states rights versus um hierarchicalism within the churches you know obviously we're talking about um a a political system of government within within the united states

tradition of obviously we're still operating under the Constitution, and arguably, we can debate about how much we actually use the Constitution anymore. So we're operating with that versus a religious tradition in a church that Catholics believe was founded by Jesus Christ. Yeah, and I'll also mention this. The church is so—I actually believe in decentralization for the same reason that i'm catholic actually there's a principle called subsidiarity and you see this in the structure of the church basically if something can be handled by the most local possible authority it should be handled by the most local possible authority you're only supposed to go up that chain of command if you found a

problem that you literally could not solve at that local level i'm not saying that that never happens i'm saying it's never abused like the pope is giving orders like all the time to like the local parishes and it's just not like when the church was most influential in world affairs there was a french church there was yes an english church there was a spanish church and they were very. And they were understood to be different. And their relationship with their respective states was very different. So in Spain, it was extraordinarily well integrated. In Spain, obviously, right. Yeah.

And in England, they were anti-papists well before Henry VIII. It was a little bit of a different direction. Yeah, yeah. Henry VIII was a problem child. Some say that King James was the first one of those. They call that a... Well, do we... Yeah, sorry.

Continue, though, with what you were saying. Investiture controversy. But just my understanding as a student of history, not obviously as someone with a Catholic education, but is that, as Jack says, there has always been an understanding that prelates of different parts of the world and had a responsibility to be appropriately sympathetic and appropriately culturally tied into what makes sense for that place,

but also what the relationship is with other institutions and other cultural phenomena and social phenomena. Yeah. And so to be clear, like the fundamental moral teachings are still the same there. It's not like in the Spanish Catholic Church, now adultery was okay or something. I mean, in Italy, I'm sure they pushed for that, right? But overall, you're right. Like when it came to the cultural customs, it came to like what do we uh enforce

here what it did vary based on um you know and james of course we only of course we just mean for now because eventually yeah no once we take over yeah dude i don't know the catholic church has trouble running the catholic church i don't want it to to run at least at least you guys but let's let's um you get back because christ runs our church friend it is it is getting get constant get constantinople back constantinople back again and then i'll be impressed i cry every single time good point world war one uh man we're so close a couple weeks to say freaking germans man i was just thinking like if the head is pointing in one direction would the body not also follow the head and in that sense i guess if you all feel that the head is pointing in one direction, would the body not also follow the head? And in that sense, I guess if you all feel

that the Pope believes in something that's in contradiction to the doctrine, would there not be a process that you can, I don't know what's the equivalent of impeachment of the Pope to get him off the position? So this is also important. When you're saying the Pope believes something that's in conflict with church teaching,

you'd have to point to something specific there. And this is something I encourage people to be very careful about. I think the Pope has said certain things that could be argued to be on the border of that. But as far as I'm aware, the Pope has not openly said anything that actually expressly contradicts church teaching, except for one statement that he made about God willing all religions which they ended up actually walking back so a lot of times they play game they say like well they talk about translation liberal yes yeah so so this is this is one area where i'll say i'll give you an example of this right so when pope francis first uh came to his position i was seeing all these news articles catholic church no longer believes in hell the catholic church has stopped teaching about hell what that's literally not

possible the church actually can't do that and so i look into it what happened pope francis well on you know an airplane or something being asked a question by a journalist said that he doesn't think hell is a literal place he just thinks it's a state of the soul now that is not something catholics are required to believe because he wasn't making an is a literal place. He just thinks it's a state of the soul. Now, that is not something Catholics are required to believe because he wasn't making an ex-Catholicist statement, but that's also something Catholics have been allowed to believe historically, and it didn't affect church teaching at all. And he also wasn't saying hell doesn't exist.

So you have to be careful because the media will take his statements and turn them into something completely different than what he ever said. This is a pope who's called gender theory demonic, who's called abortionist hit men. I mean, he's more conservative than people think, though there are things he says, which, once again, really concern me. Kwani, I really appreciate the question.

I mean, we could do an entire other episode on this. Yeah, you get these Catholics talking and they'll just keep going. And the Latin version of this discussion is going to be... Yeah, the Latin version of this discussion is going to be the latin version of the discussion thanks i really appreciate it thank you let's go to the next one here shout out to hannah claire for a good job on the culture wars you did yesterday i agree yeah yeah that was great yeah she's great she's great

that's chinese sounds a bit funny though to be honest it sounds it sounds very uh maybe a little polish maybe it sounds like you're from china china chinese which you as Chinese sounds a bit funny to be honest. It sounds very Chinese. Maybe a little Polish. Maybe. It sounds like you're from China. China. Chinese. Which you lived in China

all night. Makes sense. A couple years. Anyways. Cheers my friend. We're on to Noah Sanders. Noah Sanders. How are you?

How are you? Glad to be back. Hey man. Good to hear you too. How are you? So my question was originally for Jack but it's of course open to the whole panel um which do y'all think is more important role for young people probably around 30

or younger um to fulfill one someone like yourself jack who reports on the news current events and trending topics that doesn't really have a job yeah yeah pressler type who goes out to help activate voters in different areas and inform people on the streets. Or three, someone to run for public offices of all levels in their district. All seem important to secure bright future for our country. But which should be the most pursued in your guys opinion? I mean, I think God gives people different talents. Yeah.

Yeah. I think that's the right answer is that, you know, there are certain people who have that drive that just want to travel and be on the road like Scott and just be out there pounding the pavement. There are other people who have, you know, that have different talents for whether it be communicating, sharing information. There are other people who just by dint of their, their where they were born, when they were born, the family they were born to,

et cetera, different talents where it be, it is easier for them to run for office based on where they are based on the, uh, whatever political denomination that you're, you're dealing with, the demographics, the area, et cetera, et cetera, a million different factors. Um, I think God puts you where you need to be, put it that way. And, uh, you know, I think that it's, it, you couldn't really put someone, you know, in there that, uh, you know, I think that it's, it, you couldn't really put someone, you know, in there. That being said,

you know, I see which is more important. I think we need them all right now. No, I think that what, what, what's really important is, is that people like you and people like us ask that question,

because as Jack is saying, you, you, you need to, you have to ask yourself, am I, am I doing, am I taking the talents that I have and using them to make a difference, or at least making the effort to make a difference?

I mean, you can't always make a difference, but sometimes the effort is a very large part of what your contribution has to be. I think for us— Well, I would say— Oh, go ahead. Sorry, go ahead. Sorry, go ahead. Well, I was just, the reason I'm asking is because I'm a young man myself, 28 years old, currently doing plumbing, traveling across the country doing that. But I feel like I'm being pulled to do something of greater value, including possibly still enlisting in the military at my advanced age. but it's just trying to figure out what pathway would be the most effective and most beneficial not only to myself but to my community and my country. Strike off running for office.

That's an easy one. I would actually tell you that as a person who's not young and not a plumber, that even if I were appointed, I can think of almost nothing worse spiritually for a person than going through the process of trying to become elected to any kind of national office. I think it's just absolutely soul-murdering.

But if you were to tell me that I could be appointed, and not only to Congress, but to the United States Senate, I still don't even know if I would take it. It is such an ugly, hopeless system. You know what would be actually cool, though? I would take it it is such an ugly hopeless system you know it'd be actually i would do it and just get a lot of money you know what you know it'd be cool though but he's already a plumber it's no no no let me throw this out let me throw this out there

because obviously look obviously you look you're here in discord you're talking to us uh you you clearly have an interest in podcasts you know why not start like the plumbing channel, like become like the plumbing guy. You're doing a podcast, you're on the road, you're talking about stuff, you're talking about the people you meet, maybe you're not given the perfect, you know, like. Yeah, I bet if you got a scope camera.

And then every once in a while you work in like, oh, and the code in this area is bad and that's why we need something like this you you could literally put a camera on us on a scope like a snake people watch people no i actually i agree with you because you have so many influencers who will talk about the glamour of their useless job i think it would be very interesting to have somebody who's doing something really useful show people how it's done and show people what the lifestyle is like especially because you're traveling dude you're going across the country never said he likes being a plumber though my brother my brother is a my brother's a woodworker and he does this all the time he'll post uh you know he's a woodworker he does he

does other stuff um and you know he'll post uh videos from job sites talking about what he's doing and then he'll work in in something else that's going on. But he's got something. There's a really popular Australian guy who actually just mows lawns. I don't know if you guys have seen it. I've seen this. Yeah. He mows lawns for free.

For free. Yeah. And then he gets all the revenue via YouTube, et cetera, and people that are giving him money. But that's always something to try. Again, I don't know how I would do it about plumbing. I'm not sure if that would be as easy to film. That's actually something that I was looking to do with my pressure washing company that I own back in Georgia.

Oh, yeah. I've seen that as well. I've seen a lot of houses or communities that could use having their property value brought up just a little bit just to look nicer. I mean, even if it doesn't do anything for them, it makes them feel better that they living that they're living in a clean home instead of, you know,

someplace that's got mold on the outside and, uh, bacteria growing on the roof and everything like that. But as far as, uh, as far as all that goes, it's all great. But, uh, I really do think that we need people, um, with good hearts and, uh, good ideas on policies to run for office, even though it is a soul crushing. And you're right. Absolutely. You're right. Because at the end of the day, we do need we need those seats to be filled with our guys. Yeah. But the one thing I would say to you, man, is, you know, I was in nursing school myself when I left the military. I still wanted to be,

you know, civil servant to people and help out my community. I talked to one of my cousins. She's like, look, in California, if you become a nurse, you can afford to live out here. And so I went to nursing school, and it was there that I kind of developed this passion for politics because I was talking to a bunch of college-age students, a lot of them, Bernie Sanders, socialists, et cetera. And I got involved into politics. And you're talking about which is the most important.

First and foremost, man, I don't know if you're a man of God or if you have faith or what your faith is and beliefs. First, talk it over with the big man. You got to kneel down and you got to say, God, what is your purpose for me? And what I will say is even at the local level, brother, your school board, your city supervisors, your board of supervisors, your city council is going to make a bigger impact on your day-to-day life and and of your children and of your you know i don't know if you have kids or if you're married or but either way even if you're planning on it these people will have a bigger impact on your community and your day-to-day life than a president potentially could and that's why that's kind of like the hope that i give to californians it's like look i live in one of the most conservative

areas in in my area in california Believe it or not, the city that I live in, I'm not going to mention it, but it's one of the safest cities in the entire nation. And it's in Los Angeles County. But of course, people focus on the negative. But you have talents. You have things. What I would recommend, something that we do at the local level in Los Angeles is we have meetups for young Republicans. You're 28. I'm 35. Young Republicans is an organization from 18 to 40. Every once in a while, we will have a meetup and you talk about what you do

and if other people might be interested in your services. Brother, let me tell you, man, it's one of the best ways to network because people are actively seeking, well, especially now with the parallel economy, if you don't already list your business on Public Square, this is not a paid ad or anything like that.

And more conservatives will find you. And so if you're looking to get involved politically, at the very least, you can do it hyper local and be like, how can I help one school board member be from Democrat to Republican? And how can I do that as a plumber? Is it donating? Is it volunteering for that campaign? And I'm telling you, we have community cleanups in angeles and we have gardeners that come to the republican meetups and they're like hey i know how to mow lawns can we just mow someone's lawn in the

community i'm like yeah absolutely and someone's like oh well i'm a painter take it local yeah exactly take it local and people and people are going to notice man and you're going to make political change like when we do cleanups people are impressed to notice man and you're going to make political change like when we do cleanups people are impressed that it's young republicans making the change like wait a minute i i was always told that conservatives didn't care about the the environment and here you guys are you know i dude we've talked to thousands of people they're blown away i've had people because we've been doing these cleanups for years i've had people fly in from colorado and they're democrats. And I'm like, bro, we're just here to clean up. I made a weekend out of it with my wife. We wanted to see the Hollywood star, all this stuff. So you'd be very surprised,

man. Just plumbing, it might not be tied into politics per se, but there's a way that you can use the talents God has already given you to help politically, whether it's donating, volunteering, or like, hey guys, I'm a conservative plumber. Are you tired of companies, like woke companies that give to political politics? I'm a conservative. You want to help me out? And brother, I'm telling you, man, the need is out there.

I guarantee you God is going to use you and your talents for something. All right. Well, anything else to add, my friend? Two. Well, just one thing. Just to go on to Shamer with Shamer and y'all need to have a good conversation about Christianity yeah go on Shamer he said me I should

all of you any of you come on my show bro listen I'm going to try to set up a live thing with you on my podcast this week or next week let's do it Jack and I were talking about maybe baptizing you Bro, listen, I'm going to try to set up a live thing with you on my podcast this week or next week. Let's do it. You're going to baptize him. Yeah, well, Jack and I were talking about maybe baptizing you. We will all baptize him. We're going to force baptize him.

All right. I'll scream on that. Well, thank you, Noah. I'll talk to you soon. Everyone that's haggling me about how much time it's taking, I understand. We're going late tonight. What's happening? You aren't even the one suffering.

Y'all have a blessed night. Bless yourself, brother. You guys should all be thanking Kellen, who's the real sufferer, who's going to really suffer. It's not you guys. It's not even the listeners.

I'm going to be editing like a beast tonight. Sammy Football, you are now live. What's going on? Hey, so a lot of my question, my question actually is for Anthony,

and he kind of answered a lot of it in the last one, so I'll make it quick. Okay. I'm big into local politics in Florida. I actually ran a campaign, grassroots um and got one of my clients elected against an incumbent to the school board and she actually didn't receive the governor's endorsement but we did it

and we got you know conservative majority so and i did it all while reading my bible so shout out to that so that's good good stuff right there i i don't know what I'm doing, but I just let my Bible lead me on that one. But you were only reading your Bible. And that's the point I was making earlier. Yeah. But I got to see firsthand how dirty politics gets here in Florida. So it's kind of like a two part question, but you answered one of them already. Have you one of them is have you ever thought that florida politics is eaten up with

fake gop uh writing for the democrats the example is john rutherford today he was a former sheriff for duval county and he actually voted present in the shift vote today and also um i've been huge and i've been you know we have we see all the moms and everything showing up to school board meetings and i've been begging dads and men even if you're not a dad just men to showing up to school board meetings. And I've been begging dads and men, even if you're not a dad, just men to show up to school board meetings because that's when change happens because that's when they notice that people are upset. So what is your advice on this? What would you say to the men? A lot of times I hear, oh, well, I have grandkids or, oh, I don't have kids. What is your advice to men to men about, you know, getting behind these movements? Well, first and foremost, as a Christian man,

I think it's a duty of every man. Doesn't matter if you have kids, if this is not your fight. I don't believe in being disengaged from anything. So one of the things that made the Armenian parents go so viral is the fact that there were so many men there present. And that's what I love about the Armenian community

is so many men. I've never seen this in the Hispanic community. I've never seen this anywhere else where so many men show up. So to all the men out there, I know that like the manosphere and there's like a lot of things that men talk about why it's woman's fault and OnlyFans and that. I get a lot of heat for this. I think almost every single problem in America is a fault of men because we've just been so disengaged. We've allowed it to happen. If you want all the events to stop existing, then stop signing up for it. You know what I'm saying? And it's our role to lead. And if you're a Christian man, you truly

must believe this, that it is your role to lead not just your family, but my community. I was reading Philippians today and it was talking about that that like be selfless you have to live in the service of others and so i i really despise when oh well i homeschool my parents i don't care about this fight this isn't my fight this is not what's that homeschool my parents homeschool your children parents homeschool yeah homeschool my children but so what we have what we have yeah homeschool your parents too. Yeah, homeschool your parents. I think this is true. So my answer would be men have to be involved. You have to lead. It can't just be the woman. And I'm telling you, we've done a thing with my statistics.

I have 155,000 on Instagram. 90% of my support comes from women because they don't see any other man standing up in Los Angeles that's just, you know, heeding the call. And so to other men, I'm like, dude, you have to show up. Oh, well, I work. I'm like, dude, everyone works. Communists work too. And they still show up. Communists don't work.

Hold on a second. That is their job when you see them out there like that. Look, I covered the riots of 2020. I'm telling you, these moms, these dads out there, I'm like, what do you do? And I'm like, oh, I'm a college professor. And you came right after work, I'm like, what do you do? And I go, I'm a college professor. And I'm like, and you came right after work. Like, oh, as soon as I got off of work, I had my clothes already. I came to protest.

And they stayed there till midnight. And they're like, all right, tomorrow I'm going to wake up, take a shower, and I'm going to go right back to being a college professor. These people work. It's one of the biggest scams that the left doesn't work. They absolutely do. And they actually work two, three times harder than conservatives. That's just a fact. I'm sorry. And the second question to you, when you were saying that if state parties sometimes, absolutely, state parties love losing.

The reason is because they can fundraise off of the losing. They play off the emotions that people are angry and they've lost. So unfortunately, you have a lot of neocons. I would certainly agree with this. I would certainly agree with this. Yeah, absolutely. As a guy from the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, I've seen it a million times. Oh, absolutely. As a guy from the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, I've seen it a million times. Oh, absolutely.

I mean, it's just, you're going to see this in any state. And again, it's great that you're from Florida because there's a lot of people that look at Florida and like, oh, what a beacon of hope. And sure, in many different ways, but I can't tell you how many Floridians are absolutely pissed

that their cost of living has gone up. I have people that were renting apartments. They had to give up their apartments because like, I can't afford to live here anymore. And Ron DeSantis isn't doing anything, you know, like no one's taking care of the natives because we have so many implants. And again, the line of reasoning from the implants is like, well, sure. Rent has gone up, but at least it's not as bad as California.

Those were high prices. At least your gas is cheap. And so I feel for a lot of native Floridians who are not being heard. And there was a lot of seats in Florida that got flipped blue, including mayoral races, because they weren't being heard. They wouldn't be heard by the state party. So the only thing I can tell you is you got to keep chipping away at it. Thank you for everything that everything that you do kudos on you and sometimes i know it's hard to to keep pressing at it but man it's sometimes when you're doing a lot of the work it does feel like you're alone but uh all i can do is encourage you it's uh it's definitely been rough but it's been rewarding so um but it's definitely something i would love to conversation i would love to continue with you offline because I know we're

strapped for time but I would love to find you on Twitter and talk to you more about it because I have a few more pieces to that puzzle and I'd like to expand so thank you guys so much thank you for the call so let's go I think we got our last caller of the night we're in the last one for Stock Gamer and yeah

gas was like $7.95 in Hollywood when I left there it was $7.85 I think I didn't even look when I was there the other day yeah it was like 795 in hollywood when i left there it was 785 i think when i didn't even look when i was there the other day yeah it was when i left in october it was like 785 in hollywood but yeah i lived in hollywood so it's like right over the hill on the the pass it was 787 grade 87 grade or was it 97 87 yeah it's 88 grade can we actually use that? The ethanol? That's why you can. Yes, you can. I don't know. But what's up, Stock Gamer?

How are you? What's up, guys? Hey, can you hear me? Yep. Loud and clear. Five by five. Anthony. Anthony, you know who this is?

I do not know. It's your favorite Jewish homie from LA. Hey, Raz. What's up, man? I was going to be like, Anthony, it's your stalker. I'm outside your house right now. Waiting for you in the backseat. It sounded familiar, but I'm just like, it could be anyone at this point.

No, this is. I'll be in your hotel. What's up, brother? Sorry, I'm talking. So my question is for Anthony, and it's a question that I love asking him every day. But what will it take for you to leave California? No, man, I'm there for life. Trying to get rid of him, huh?

Look, look. I don't live in California. No, he used to live in California. take for you to leave california no man i'm there for trying to get rid of him huh look look you know it's no he used to live in california i'm one of the people that he hates yeah what's like for you to leave open warrants yeah san andreas fall look man when i was talking we were talking california left me what was the plumber what was the plumber's name noah right i think no so noah um so you know it's one of those things where like um you know uh there's the other guy's name was no the plumber's no not this guy right oh i think so yeah but um you know one of those things is that you have to pray about it i keep praying to god i'm like look i have a three i have a three-bedroom home i have

a family of five my entire family is in california we love where we live it's a very conservative area we have a lot of sheriffs you know a lot of it's not we don't see like the homeless it's not a problem in our area this is not um my my thing is i'm gonna wait till i'm not totally against leaving california but it has to get that bad you know um but look i my children are getting baptized despite the indoctrination i think if anything the persecution is making us stronger christians and you know there was there's like this video of of a christian pastor that went to go visit you know christians that were imprisoned in china and other countries where christianity is illegal and the prisoners would

say you know oh you know um pray for me to be as strong as you guys in america and like pray pray for us to like be able to be like americans pray for our country to have and the pastor was just like you know what i actually pray that christians in america would be more like you and here's why because for your faith you're willing to go to jail and you could be running away you could be like everyone else and just run faith, you're willing to go to jail. And you could be running away. You could be like everyone else and just run away, but you're choosing to stay here and spread the gospel through persecution. I mean, again, I was reading Philippians today.

The Apostle Paul was talking about, my brothers, I'm in prison, but glorify that the entire prison is now listening to the gospel of Jesus Christ because they know that I'm being wrongfully persecuted. So it's not that I'm trying to liken myself to any apostle or anything like that, but there is power in persecution. And Christ talks about this.

We're going to be persecuted for our beliefs. So to me, I find solace that there's a lot of Californians that don't, they can't leave. There's people that can, they will, you know, but there's a lot of people that can't. The single moms out there that are on that welfare system they can't leave you know how many people like uh uh and this has been told to me by republicans that said like dude we can't compete with the healthcare in california we don't have better deals with them they just have really good health care out there you know and there's a lot of moms that like i can't afford health care if i were to ever leave so i think about my community hispanic lat, that are firstborn immigrants

that don't have that opportunity. And it's nice to have someone like myself and others. I'm not the only one. There's a lot of fighters out there, a lot of good people that are fighting the good fight, people that do way more than me. And they're like hearing the subject of change can happen. And we need to stay and fight.

And if enough of us collectively even if you know people tell me like oh what do you think trump or biden in california for 2024 you think we can flip it for trump i'm like i'm not worried about trump or biden you know what i'm worried about can we flip this school district right here can we flip this board of supervisors so it's a majority conservative if you focus on the hyper local i promise you man like you're gonna start seeing change but uh there's like a old saying that goes um if you're willing to do good you have to be a man prepared to not sit in the shade of the tree of what you planted the seed of i think i'm butchering it but it's basically saying if you're fighting for good it's a lifelong fight and you

might die and not see the share. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So Raz, I love you, bro. I,

you know, you're, you're, you're out there doing good things. I see your family, your King bro, but legacy to me, it's just,

I'm planting my banner and I think that there is hope for California. God has not abandoned it. And I think that if we start thinking more like this, if we start tweeting out more, plant your banner and fight. And if we can get, and Jack, that's why start thinking more like this if we start tweeting out more plant your banner and fight and if we can get and Jack that's why I love you brother because you were the only one man that actually showed up to and that you have no idea what you

did for everybody that is in California man the fact that you were the only one that came out there's a lot of people out there I didn't want to single out Seamus I'm kidding kidding but like you said some people just you know they're just suited for podcasting yeah no but harming is staying in california every day yeah and that's the thing is people need that people need that hope man people need hope imagine being like a conservative or

christian and all your thought leaders are saying get the hell out there's no hope right but then in comes like those few people saying like no no no we're going to change this for god we're going to change california because we care about the people that can't make a difference the people that can't leave those are the people that we're fighting for because again christ caused us to be selfless it's not just about my wife and my child my wife and my children. My wife and my children are fine. They're happy. Dude, we survived the pandemic. No jabs.

God's got us. It came to the point where it was a single income in my home. We went from a three-income household to just me. And I had to go into a little bit of debt, but we never, ever wavered from the faith in God, and he got us, man.

So to me, it's like, God, you still have me here for a reason. And if he ever calls me anywhere else- We should discuss that on my podcast sometime jack you should i'll be on tomorrow then amen but we actually have a little bit of breaking news oh and i want to say thank you again for the call but we actually which may have happened during the show tonight that uh i guess we'll have to we'll have to let see if tim prime is able to get to this tomorrow if not maybe tim 3.0 4.0 5.0 will be here but elon musk and mark zuckerberg may be holding a cage match uh zuck is uh is actually

jujitsu so i saw that he also just win like well so yeah yeah so so elon said I'm up for a cage match if he is. And then on Twitter, and then Zuck responded on Instagram, send me location. Oh, this is hot. And then- Pull up. As if Facebook doesn't always know where everyone's located. And then Elon Musk responded, because somebody tweeted that at him. He goes, if this is for real, I will do it. Wow.

Dude, Zuck with the arm bar i'm calling it three minutes i don't know but he's got he's got the cybernetic elbow this is gonna keep a lot of lawyers busy who wins the lawyers ladies and gentlemen that is that concludes the timcast member segment make sure that you are continuing to subscribe thank you for everyone who has subscribed uh if you know somebody who'd be interested in this let them know about the call lens let them know that we are now more interactive here i say we you know the you know tim prime and the others and uh thanks again everybody for hanging out tonight

yeah thank you so much jack shots out chris burtman there you go man always cheers