Timcast IRL - Sunday Uncensored: Charlie Kirk Members Only Podcast

Episode Date: April 9, 2023

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Every week, we produce four uncensored episodes of the TimCast IRL podcast, exclusively at TimCast IRL podcast exclusively at TimCast.com, and we're going to bring you the most important for our weekend show. If you want to check out more segments just like this, become a member at TimCast.com. Now, enjoy the show. So we have this story that I find particularly disturbing, and it's part of a series of stories that have hit in the past couple of days. Boston Children's Hospital director

calls for drastic increase in capacity for gender surgeries for minors. That's the headline. Yeah, that was a crazy story. And then we also have this one. Here we go. Drag queen performs lap dance on student and gyrates in front of cheering children

at pride event in North Carolina. There's an image that i think nobody wants to see and people need to see because on bill maher i don't know if i have the tweet up right here is this one that's that's not that's matthew glace is complaining about not being about being verified no there was a tweet where um winsome sears was on bill maher she was great and she said we don't want i don't want drag queens doing lap dances on my kids and bill maher goes well i don't think that's happening. And she goes, it is happening.

Didn't you see this? And he goes, well, I don't see this. And she goes, Bill, you got to read more. And it was a brilliant. Oh, I got to look at that. Brilliant. And Bill goes, I guess I do. Oh, good for him.

So he was humble about it. Yeah, the problem is. Because usually he's an arrogant jerk with that stuff. Yeah, well, I think he's learning his lesson that he does not not read and this is the kind of stuff that is happening right now in schools oh good for him everybody's actually that's progress yes and um i might i might end up going on there on real time i think you should that would be great well there's i don't i don't want to drag other people into it but high profile conservative individuals who know bill maher have been asking me like yeah you'd be excellent you have a lot to say that's like a thing i can watch lots and lots because you're

not an ideologue you have a lot to say well i would just simply be like you're you're allowed to not like trump that's fine but yo their drag queens are giving lap dances to kids like here's the video just watch it i would like to like real quick when they're on this show do they not have phones are they made to to leave their phones behind? Because I would just be like, you don't believe me? Here you go, Bill. And then Bill's going to be like, I am looking at a drag queen giving a lap dance for a child in a school. And I'd be like, there it is. You said he backed down, which is a development because old Bill Maher would have been snarky and been like, I read plenty.

Like Dennis Prager when he said tampons in the men's room and he started laughing at him. Yes, the whole place erupted. Yeah. So that's at least, I think Bill Maher might be learning the world has gone a little more insane than he realizes. So I think most people who listen to this show know all this is happening. I think this image, for those of you who want to Google search it, would be helpful if you're trying to explain to loved ones, friends, and family who don't believe you. My recommendation is always don't be angry. Don't be agitated. Don't be adversarial. Just be like, would you just, here you go. Curious. What I want to do. Just look at this. And now people have told me it doesn't

matter. They still don't care. And that's when you have to realize they like it. Okay. No, no, they're into it. Yeah. If you go to someone, you know, and say, I think this is wrong. And they say, why do you care? I don't care. you need to recognize they don't care conservatives keep projecting too much and thinking that these evil people can be convinced by sound arguments and reason they cannot some people can a lot of people will see them go no fucking yeah you got to plug in other like what if okay what if it was me but forget about what if i went up to a kid in a public park and did this to them and then they're like whoa that's fucking crazy no go ahead that that for my own mother is helpful because like with trump i'm like what if it was me getting

put through this bullshit she's like well that would fucking hate it i'm like you got to like disassociate from the the emotions i think that's right and and also what i'd love to do is stop calling this drag queen gets all grindy on a guy and start being like sexual deviant i totally agree i think that's exactly right rubs cock on child yes no seriously that's that's what i think that's i think the vocabulary matters there's so many trans people that are awesome and i don't want to just drag is not trans drag isn't and there's so many people that wear drag that are also great drag queens i mean the issue the issue is not, I did theater for years. I had someone who was in drag who was the emcee of my show,

who's actually now a very well-known trans activist on social media. And you'd know who it was if I said it. But he was doing our show for years and years and years. He was a drag queen. We had a lot of drag at the show. We had, like of, you know, we had like trans playwrights. We had trans performers, all this kind of stuff. And it was totally, we had a great time. It was good artwork. It was for adults. The club was for adults. The whole thing was for adults. I wanted to bring this up because I think it's actually a good segue into religion.

Sure. Because I know that we were going to talk about that. And this to me is beyond moral degradation. I got to talk about this has been burning my mind. And are you, can you consider yourself Catholic? I'm Christian. Christian? Yeah, evangelical Christian, but I have a great respect for Catholics. One of the things about Catholicism that I think is getting me right now is that, okay,

people like Matt Walsh, and I don't want to call you out by name, Matt, because you're not here, but let's talk about it when I see you is that saying boys can't be girls boys are boys girls are girls okay let's live in reality i'm into that but don't tell me that a spirit impregnated a woman because we're in this reality game now and i can't take reality advice from someone that is trying to tell me that a ghost got a girl pregnant 2 000 years ago charlie looks at me i think it's a gross oversimplification of what people believe. And I have a feeling if people start to admit that that is fantastical, that people from the other side or whatever, people that are trans are like, you know what?

Okay. I can start to take maybe boys are boys and we can be trans women too, but boys are boys. I can see like if people start to all kind of accept reality at once that it might bring some people together. Okay. So your question is with the incarnation? Of Mary getting impregnated by, she said, a spirit. It was probably a Roman guy and it would have been executed. His family would have been killed.

Mary would have been killed. So they're like, well, we can't be honest about this. We got to tell Jesus his dad was the God. I do think that there are things that we have to take on faith. So I think it's also very unrealistic to believe that a man rose from the dead after being crucified and hung out and, you know, suffocating to death over a period of hours. I think it's very unlikely to believe that someone rose from the dead after experiencing that after being, you know, like, put in clothes, you know, wrapped up in a shroud and put behind behind a a rock but we have to take

things on faith we have to believe in order to believe everything that comes with it and i want to i want to real quick just i want to say there's a big difference between someone being like there are things that exist beyond our understanding in reality and things that exist beyond our capabilities and power and that may have a factor in our existence and there's difference between that and then saying something like surgically removing a child's penis makes him a girl yeah there's a difference between saying there are things greater than my understanding and that for sure a spirit impregnated right but but listen but there's there's more to it surgery surgery and hormones does not make a boy or a girl or a girl a boy that is not physical reality

arguing about something faith-based supernatural is an entirely different area. But there's also, we do know that there are people who are more comfortable presenting as the opposite sex and being seen as much as possible as the opposite sex, right? And that is something that we have seen throughout history. But that does not mean that medical technology is capable of changing a person from one sex to another. Well, let's let Charlie. Yeah, so the entire Christian faith and everything we believe, especially this Easter week, all hinges on the resurrection.

That's the whole ballgame. And so there's two things that make Christianity, Genesis 1, 1, and the resurrection. If those two things are true, everything else in the Bible can be true, from the incarnation to Jonah and the whale. And so the resurrection is the most, by ancient historical standards, the most documented event we have ever seen, right? Most eyewitnesses, least to gain, people do things for sex, money, and power. The people that wrote about it did not for sex, money, and power.

The people that wrote about it did not gain sex, money, or power. In fact, they all died a rather brutal death because of the documentation from the female witnesses to the eight extra biblical accounts. And so I guess my question, Ian, would be for you, what do you think happened with the resurrection? Because in some ways, it's the most celebrated, most documented event. I'm just curious, what do you believe? A couple of possibilities. One is his body was stolen, but they say they saw him walking around. Yes, that's correct. So it's possible that they buried him when he was still alive. They thought he was dead. Okay, that one, I could respond to that. But Roman crucifixion is almost impossible to survive. That's like ancient zombies.

That was the idea that they would throw people in the grave without knowing that they were real. And they'd climb out and be like, I'm not quite dead. The Romans were really good at making sure the person on a cross was dead. So, but the second one is a stolen body, right? That doesn't explain then the people who saw him after the event. So those are two separate things, right? Was he not actually killed when he was put in the tomb or was feel like you're actually at the casino. The excitement doesn't stop there. With over 3,000 games to choose from, including fan favorites like Cash Eruption, UFC Gold Blitz, and more, make deposits instantly to jump in on the fun and make same-day withdrawals if you win.

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Believers. Also, hearsay could be part of it. Like someone thought they saw a guy that looked like him and said they saw him, and then someone else was like, yeah, actually, me too. And then it spreads. So in order for that to be true,

why then would the people closest to him then die voluntarily based on a hearsay? Because everyone around him including his half-brother died a brutal death based on the testimony following yeah i imagine it like you see these movies where they're torturing a guy being like tell us where you hid the money and the guy really doesn't know it's like i don't know and they're like then i'm going to electrocute your balls like but they could have they could have avoided the torture i lied and they didn't that that's my that's my point.

So it makes it compelling in the very least, right? Well, I'll put it this way. I'm not Christian. I believe in God. But my attitude is simply this. I think if somebody, you know, right now we have all of these liberals talking about simulation theory. And you've got these powerful, prominent thinkers saying the likelihood that we exist in a simulation is probably near one. And it's like, okay. Well, if you can believe that, then you can certainly believe that the person who made the simulation clicked resurrect on the body of Jesus Christ.

I tend to believe that there is a God watching quantum physics in action, seeing the cosmic microwave background radiation looks like a web of energy. Like, there's something going on. This universe seems to be sentient. But the man-made stories about it, I am very cautious about. And I hear the caution, right? And what I would just challenge you to think about and to meditate is that the resurrection was not an isolated incident that just one person turned into a mythological narrative, right? You have Josephus that talked about it,

who was a Roman historian. You have Maimonides, who was also known as Ramban, who was one of the main authors of a Talmudic commentary, who talked about it. The Babylonian Talmud talks about Jesus and his testimony. So you have all these extra biblical accounts, but you also then have the core canon, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, that all support the same story with different details. So it didn't come from the same spot, right? And so the question is then why? I have another theory. Yeah, go ahead, please. A lot of drugs were used back then, and they're not really in the texts, unfortunately, but there's a lot of hallucinogenic activity.

If that's true, then why did Paul directly call out pharmakia as being that from Satan? Oh, interesting. Not all of them. Not all of them. But isn't that a revelation as well? Jesus declined opiates at his death. Yeah. So if that's true and they were under pharmacological influence, then Paul would be rejecting a

tradition of people in Jesus's closest circle. He said that pharmakia, which is the Greek term for drug use, was a gateway to the underworld. There's people today that say like, I don't do drugs, but they drink coffee. Caffeine's a drug, but they don't consider it a drug. Sure. So maybe- So the question is, what would be, and here's the counter argument to the drug argument, is that if you're on drugs and Tim's on drugs and I'm on drugs,

we're all going to have separate hallucinogenic experiences. Possibly. But have you heard this phenomenon? Sorry to interrupt. Did you have more to say? No, but tell me how we would all be hallucinating the same thing. There's a phenomenon called the phantom DNA experiment that they've done where they take a piece of DNA in a vacuum and they bombard it with electrons for a while or photons,

photons for a while. Then they remove the DNA, and the photons stay there revolving around it as if the DNA was still there. So that's a real scientific experiment where maybe the perception, like Jesus' spirit was still there, and they're able to kind of visualize it. I was thinking we were going to talk about morality.

Well, no, we can. Yeah, I wanted to talk about that too, and I want to talk about Jesus coming to Jerusalem, which is my favorite. We could just turn the page on it. But it is Holy too, and I want to talk about Jesus coming to Jerusalem, which is my favorite. We could just turn the page on it. But it is Holy Week, so I think it's important, is that we must acknowledge that the resurrection, the belief of the resurrection, is the most important event that built the West, right? People's belief in it, because it built modern Christianity.

And you might not agree with it or disagree with it, so at least studying it and looking at all the angles of it and all the arguments and counter-arguments I think is really healthy, because whether Jesus was stolen from the tomb or rose from the dead, our entire civilization hinges on the answer to that question. Our entire concept of the difference between good and bad, how to treat other people. That is also correct, yes. And again, like I said, I'm not Christian. I do believe in God.

But I think you'll notice a lot of people recognizing that the decline in religion is coinciding with the rise in... I completely agree. ...historic personality disorder, social, like, drag performers

giving lab nets to kids. This is what Nietzsche warned us about in Beyond Good and Evil. This right here is what Nietzsche tried to warn us about. You can go too far into the order side and you can go too far into the chaos side. Look at the Islamic world.

Right. So true. So the lack of belief in God probably is what's leading people to this weird finding, trying to find pleasure on earth. They think they are God. That's the problem.

It's not necessarily the lack of religion, but the lack of belief in God. I think a lot of human religions have twisted God to make it about the pastor. And you're like, I have to listen to you to get in touch with God now. And it's like, yes, now pay your tithe and keep coming here so I can keep telling you what God is. And you're like, dude, God is real. It's like vibrating me right now. I think you're right in some sense, but the Christian claim is not that the past, let's put that aside.

The word is the centerpiece, right? As we say, it's the logos in John 1. And so we believe the word never returns void. But absent a structure or a narrative, which we believe is the truth, the 66 books of the Bible with one author, the divine, then it all falls apart. But your belief in God being, you know, let's just say in every crevice and every vibration or being in nature, is that a fair way to say? Through everything, it seems.

Yes, that is not traditional Christian theology. Do you think it's more important that a huge amount of people think that God, like, define God the same way, or more important that everyone has a relationship with God? Well, I think that you must have a relationship with the true God, not a fake God. But I think for society, you must have ethical monotheism. The way I see true God is that you can look at God as a monotheistic thing. You can see it as one, or you can divide it into segments and see it as three. See, I think that's a mistake, and I think the founders would agree.

So you have polytheism, you have multiple moralities. Monotheism, you have one agreed upon general morality. Now, you can have a lot of flex in those joints, but the founding fathers, when they wrote the laws of nature and nature is God, they defied God by four different characteristics, above nature, moral, personal, and holy. Every founding father believed God were those four things. Sorry, I can't keep riffing on that. We've got limited, we don't have time because Charles has got to bounce. I can keep going. But yeah, the abuse by Christians does not mean that the standard set by Christianity is untrue. That's a separate issue.

I agree. That's a great point. But we should jump to callers. I speak to that. We should. Tim's right. Go to our callers. Because I could agree with Christian hypocrisy

and abuse all day long. That doesn't mean that the ideal is wrong. I'm sorry, Tim. No, no. I don't want to. I want to. I love you guys out there, by the way. Thank you for listening.

Give an opportunity to our Discord members to follow up on these questions and conversations, too. So let let's grab somebody right on uh i hope you guys are ready uh we're gonna take a burtman 58 first burtman huh yeah i see a lot of burt chat in the in the chat so that meme was good uh i think they're muted themselves um i thought the little mute here was they muted yeah there you go burtman 58 you're with us right now what's going on awesome how's it going guys pretty good all right so my question for tim is uh what is your vision for this community like this whole discord chat and uh how much do you think we can realistically achieve by connecting not only here on the discord but you know having meetups together one like whatnot you know so i'm an elite member i mean we've already started talking about doing

local meetups and whatnot with just within the states. And what more can we do to grow the culture? And what can we do to reach the people who are on the far left or far right that won't join something like this? But how can we reach out to them and connect with them? That last one is tough. I will say that if you saw me tweet, we just, I've been, we've been working with the government to try and figure out in West Virginia how to do a poker club, which is, we've been talking about the elite social club. We want to do poker with the boys and we might be able to combine the two now and actually have poker with the boys filmed on location where elite members can actually hang out while we're doing the production and potentially even play in these games if they're

interested. Not everybody plays poker, I know. But the idea, it was a great idea where someone asked about having Troy Nails, these members of Congress, play Among Us like AOC did. And that's like, you know, that's not really the vibe for like a middle-aged Republican politician. But imagine you guys who are elite members are hanging out in this private space. You're interacting with people like, uh, Bertman or you're, uh,

there while poker with the boys is being filmed live on a Friday night, Saturday or Sunday, whoever, however many shows we do, or you actually hang out to the point where we're like, why don't you come play on the show? And we will stake you. We'll like,

we will sponsor you to play here. So you don't got to worry about buying or however, end up able to legally do it. I can speak for i would love to do that i love playing poker and that's one of the things like there you go i would love to do that that's what i'm saying and i think this will be huge because it will be like when aoc played among us having like charlie kirk playing texas hold'em against aoc. If we could ever get someone like AOC. But having like, I'm sure we could probably get someone like Ro Khanna, you know, maybe. And we'll say

it's meant to be a friendly game that's more unifying and fun and silly and not overtly political. Right. That could be interesting for sure. It'd be hilarious. I'll do it in a second. I don't know if they would. But, you know, I think for someone like Ro Khanna and Troy Nails, like they see each other every day, they'd probably be like, okay, let's do this. We might be able to get some Democrats.

And then we would just be like, we're not going to make it overly political. We're going to play a friendly game that brings us together. And I think that's healing. So that's one thing. That's one thing.

Obviously, I'm really excited about it. As for the community, I think first, the idea from last week that we do Fridays as this Friday sponsor spot pre-show is for the members. One of the most brilliant things I've ever heard. So being a member and then submitting like, here's my company, here's what

we do. Like maybe you're an artist, maybe you're a musician. You're a member. You're already sponsoring the show. We shout out one person every Friday. That's our dedicated spot to shout somebody out from the membership. That right there is huge because then everyone else who watches the show is going to hear about your business. And it's like a media version of what Public Square is doing. So the more we can shout out and help build culture through this community, the better off we are. And then the other simple thing is we're just going to try for like the elite club, try and find more ways to just keep all of you involved in the things we're doing so probably what we'll do when we're in austin is i'm not going to say anything publicly but for the people who are in austin i'll put a message in the elite club and be like this is where we're hanging out come hang out with us so it's like nice and it's like the the monetary gate of being

the elite club is a combination of factors of we don't want crazy weirdos to come and harass us. And we want to build something of value for the company with a value proposition, allocate those resources towards building more things, and then make it worthy, valuable for all of you guys who are members. That's one of the things I love about what you're doing is you're creating a community. Like it's actually real people talking to each other, hanging out, you know. I got a really good idea. I love that. Well, so we're going to be in Austin this next weekend. I'm going to be in Austin too.

But we're going to be. I will not be. We're getting there this weekend. And then the whole week we're doing our shows from Austin. And then we're doing Friday Night IRL Live. But this weekend, we're going to have a special elite member meetup. And I think it's going to be one of the most fun things ever but i'm only going to say where it's going to be

once we're already there for security reasons these people are out of control well just for security reasons we're going to go to the location then we're going to i'm going to post in the elite club like this is where we're hanging out come hang out with us cool and i think when we do people are like, that's the coolest shit ever. So if you happen to be in the Austin area, hopefully it all works out. You never know what these things, but yeah,

I don't know. Hopefully, hopefully that's, I love what you guys are building here as an entrepreneur. It's really special and it's self-sustainable. It's you guys need to grow, make it bigger. One thing I've noticed about how to create culture,

grow culture bird to answer your question a little bit more is to make YouTube videos, make videos, make rumble videos, make videos. Cause it's like when you look at a culture, a answer your question a little bit more, is to make YouTube videos, make videos, make Rumble videos, make videos. Because it's like when you look at a culture, a spore culture in a Petri dish, you'll notice it starts to grow and expand in one area. And then all of a sudden, a spore will land in another area of the dish and another community will begin to grow from that single spore. And it'll start to happen all over. And then synergistically, you'll see all these different cultures growing at once, creating a megaculture. And that's what

I've found happens when the people that watch YouTube videos start to make YouTube videos. And it compounds. Say again? I don't know if you guys have seen on the Discord, but there's currently a Burtoning that is happening, and Burt is now the leader of the Discord.

It's spreading to Twitter, and it's spreading other places, but yes, Burt is now our leader of the Discord. Good. I mean, it's spreading to Twitter and it's spreading other places. But yes, Bert is now our leader. That's great. And just the idea that other people who are working here are talking with you guys. So you're getting a direct connection with the crew and the team

is helping spread the influence. You know, like if you guys share stories in the Discord that our staff and crew end up seeing, it just networks us better. So we're on the same page a lot more and we learn things faster. I think it's all around just hitting the nail on the head. Well, yeah.

I don't know if, I mean, you've talked to Bert about it, but I mean, there's a story that I sent him about, you know, some stuff that is going on around me and, you know, he's working on trying to get the story published about it, but it's just cool to be able to actually have these connections and get things to start moving and go. Yeah. Yeah, that's very cool.

And I think we've already got this building and we are working on licensing for this club. I think it's going to be lit. It's going to be like a redneck social club. I want to come hang out there. And you and you're yeah. I mean, how cool is that? You know, and so. Discover the magic of Bad MGM Casino, where the excitement is always on deck.

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Ms. Pac-Man. I was thinking more like PS5 or something, you know, Overwatch. I just want one of those old time. But also a couple poker tables. Can't wait for that. Where hopefully we're trying to get actual licensing for legitimate poker stakes so you can actually buy in and do all that stuff.

I think that's the first step towards community building, but then we're hoping to expand these and have clubs and coffee shops all over the place. I used to be in residence at this poetry club, downtown New York City, and they closed in 2012, which was like the beginning of the end of New York City as far as I'm concerned. But I'm stoked to get to hang out somewhere with people where there's like, you know, maybe art and coffee and drinks and doing stuff. It's going to be cool.

Booze will be another story. Create new community. I love it. All of us elite members are really looking forward to it. But one last thing is, you know, like with the talkative policing and whatnot, I am a police officer and I would love to be able to talk to you guys

about like all the different, you know, all your guys' different views on police work and whatnot since I kind of have an inside view into it. That would be awesome and just imagine hopefully in the next couple of months we get this space set up and you're hanging out in the third floor and you're playing a poker game with Michael

Malice and you're explaining to him the things he doesn't understand about policing and then hearing him make his political ideological arguments I think that would be brilliant. And Bert in the chat just shouted out liberty emmons i'm sorry liberty emmons liberty emmons all right that's great well let's uh burtman hopefully we we gave you you know i always try to make sure we give everyone adequate time but i appreciate you you uh calling in we're gonna try and get to more people because i don't know how much time charlie has you tell me man all right well, so thanks for calling in, brother.

Thank you. And we're going to jump forward. Cheers. Awesome. Thanks, guys. Thanks for having me. Absolutely. All right.

Jeff, the handyman. I like the handle. That's quite good. Handle, handy. Nice. You're with us, man. How are you? Doing good.

Good. Handyman is what I do for a living so it kind of fits too oh yeah what's going on so i had a question you guys were talking about the getting things back down to the state and local level and that's great but i live in the pacific northwest uh seattle portland dominate the whole state. The state has something. There's no voters there. They make it happen.

How do we stop that from happening to where we don't have these whole Western states that are just two big city centers controlling all this territory? You secede. Yeah. Join Greater Idaho. Join Idaho, man. That's what you got to do. We want you in Idaho. Please join.

I don't know what you think, Trev. Unfortunately, I'm about an hour south of Seattle, so in Idaho. Please join. I don't know what you think, Joe. Unfortunately, I'm about an hour south of Seattle, so that's hard to do. I don't know what to do about that. Seattle's a disaster. I'll take my own personal story. Tim, you will resonate with this. We're both Chicago guys, right? I would love to live in Illinois still.

I think what it used to be. I would live in the Midwest in a second, but I had to leave to be in a place that was consistent with my values. So I live in Arizona now. And so I think moving is tough. It's a pain in the tail. It's not ideal. Libby, you could, I don't know if you're comfortable sharing your story.

I moved right after Christmas. I left New York after being there for 20 something years. Yeah. After never, after literally never wanting to live anywhere else ever. Honorary right-wing nut job now.

And now I'm an honorary right-wing nut job. I'm a New York expat. And, you know, I miss the city, but I'm pretty happy about it. Yeah, I mean, I miss parts of Chicago, but most of it's gone. But you just got to go build a life in a new place and find people that you love and lean into it. So Seattle's not going to become a right-wing paradise anytime soon. Ever. Yeah, really.

Kind of sad. But I mean, I was just in Miami, and I was just in Fort Lauderdale. I mean, there's so much amazing pro-freedom activity happening down there. It's refreshing. It's beautiful. It's organic. It's authentic. It's bottom-up.

It's patriotic. I feel like I'm back in America when I'm in Florida. I really do. I'm like, wow, this is amazing. I feel that way when I'm in parts of Arizona too. So yeah, I think I'm not telling you to move, but it's not going to happen based on your current geographic situation.

We're moving. So we've already got half the house picked up. My wife's job is 100% remote and I can start a new business wherever we land. So it's just a matter of finding the right place to set down roots again. We'd love to have you in Phoenix, Arizona. It's the fastest growing city in America.

So consider that. It was so nice. And that's actually a good point because Arizona needs more... We need more right-wingers. Freedom-loving individuals, I put it. Because I mean, you can... Liberty lovers.

Jimmy Dore is a good dude. He would help fix Arizona. We would open anybody that believes in the promise of the founding. Come to Arizona. I left Phoenix a a couple times i've been there it's i i i've been there for your events i've traveled all 50 states twice over i've traveled 2907 days in the last decade i've been to over 12 countries my favorite place in the world is arizona there's no there's no place i'd rather live huh right on all right man uh get all your questions in because otherwise

we'll uh yeah that's cool i'm just i've been remember since day one and uh listening since you were doing like 10 shows a day i mean i'm starting to pick it back up you know hey anyways jeff you're just perfect now appreciate. Thanks for calling in, man. Thanks, Jeff. Thanks, man. Later. See you, man. We got Patriot. Yes, we do. Coming up next.

How are you, Patriot? With a zero, I'm assuming. Or a capital L. It looks like a zero, though. It's a zero. Cool. Okay. Wasn't sure.

How are you, bro? Hi, guys. How are you doing? And Distinguished Lady. Good. All good. Thanks for asking. Thanks. What's happening, man? And Distinguished Lady. Good. All good. Thanks for asking. Thanks.

What's happening, man? Like the caller before, my state of PA is pretty much going the same way as Illinois, so I can feel for him. Even in the middle? I thought just on the edges. Yeah. It's the eastern portion in Pittsburgh.

Well, I mean, West Virginia is right there. West Virginia is calling country roads. It's pretty close. Yep, you got to drive through that awful strip of Maryland, though, but then you make it, and it's pretty good. What's your question, caller? What's going on? I think we still got a handyman in here.

Nope, nope, just you. No, we don't. Thanks for checking me, though. No, we don't have him. It's just you. Oh, there isn't? No, no, no, just you. What's up?

Okay, I could hear somebody else. So my question actually was, how do we convince the Republicans, conservatives, the disaffected, non-woke people, how do we get them to stay peaceful after all this have been happening because a lot of them are getting tired of being beat down yeah i don't know that's that that's one of the things i was talking to charlie about earlier it's like you know he was saying that we have a lot of pull in making sure

people stay calm and remain calm we need to i agree we need to because they want the violence so they can weaponize it that's correct but i don't know how yep but if people are losing it because they're angry and they've lost faith it's like you can i don't know man so how do we keep people peaceful those of us that have platforms have a moral obligation to continue to communicate a pursuit of dialogue and speech as the answer i I disagree a little bit with what Tim said. You said that if they remanded him, we would go to a civil war. I don't agree with that. I think we have Americans are far actually really reluctant to go to a full-blown civil war. I think that has been a pattern we've seen. I mean, if COVID didn't bring us to that, then I don't think

remanding Donald Trump would. Do I think there would be rolling Trump riots? Maybe. I'm not saying riots. I'm saying we go to civil war because confidence in law enforcement wouldn't exist anymore. And that would be the point at which- Too many speculative steps for me, but you could be right. I think once confidence in the system is shattered, and we've already seen it without Donald Trump, the snowball has already started rolling down the hill with these videos of people rampaging through grocery stores and through

department stores, stealing whatever they want. Just like the garbage bag people? Exactly. That pisses me off. Confidence in government is a person knows in their heart if they do something like that, they go to prison. But now no one believes that. When you see a video of a person

with a garbage bag loading up at a store, they are telling you there is no order to the system. If Donald Trump goes— It's worse than that. I'll tell you what in a second. But if Donald Trump gets remanded or this escalates, the right will no longer believe the same thing. It's worse. It's Sam Francis' term, anarcho-tyranny, where it's one of the great essays ever written.

And he was kind of blacklisted for years. And it's too bad because it's a fabulous essay. We're living through what he really foresaw and he prophesied, which is anarchy in the streets of the order band together and try and curtail the federal power anyway we still have that within our legislatures even in my state we're still at 50 50 without the governorship and our state has mechanisms that the legislature can use if they gain just a little more power from one side for constitutional amendments and things like that, but the southern states have even better opportunities. But once those checks and balances fail, I don't think we're going to be able to hold that many people back anymore. And the final thing that I'll say that we didn't really touch on as much in this whole program, we talked very briefly, is you just have to be really focused on what you are doing, your own moral

action, your life journey towards the pursuit of the good. Are you getting married? Are you having children? Are you working? Are you earning? Are you doing things that reflect eternal purposes? A lot of the politics stuff is so incredibly frustrating, I'll be honest, and even those of us that talk about it all day long, you have to always ask yourself the question, am I becoming a stronger person? Am I reading more? Am I becoming more knowledgeable? Am I becoming wiser? Am I diving deeper?

Am I developing spiritually? Am I maturing in other ways? I think you would agree, Tim, that is actually what will save the country and save yourself. If you just think it's a political salvation, I think that's dangerous. That's what I keep saying. It's not that people became radicalized. It's that children were radicalized already and they're growing up and we're seeing their influence as adults.

That's been a huge deal. If you get away from cities, homeschool your kids, have a bunch of kids, make money, then in 20 years, there won't be a conflict because your kids will be the ones running the entire machine. Become self-sufficient. You have to. You got to buy land. You got to get out of the cities.

You have to build community. I believe join a church or a synagogue or whatever. You have to teach your kids self-sufficiency as well. Yes. Teach them how to be reliant. I agree. One of the things I'm always telling my son is you're going to grow up to be a resilient and strong and capable man who takes care of himself and the people that he loves.

Like I just that's the expectation. The expectation doesn't like about his job or his influence or anything else. The expectation is that he will be a good and strong man. Amen. Yeah, right on, man. I love the purpose, having purpose. When I get disillusioned and think like that, I think about the space elevator and how I have to build one. I have to be a part of this process.

That just gives me something else to focus on other than anger. Space elevator is good, I suppose. The Greeks had a great word for purpose. It's called telos. We get the word telescope from it, which means far out in the distance, that which we aim for. Everyone needs to think about what is your telos. All right. We should definitely jump on to the next call, though.

So, Patriot, thanks so much for hanging out. Thank you, guys. Have a good one, man. You too. Cheers. Last, of course, we have Redimir Sol. I believe that is how you say it. How are you?

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Cool stuff. I moved here a sophomore year to Tennessee where I live now. I was actually at an early Easter dinner on Sunday and I was talking to my fiance's brother who's a police officer in Hendersonville

which is a town the city right next over from Nashville and he was telling me that they got an intel briefing about the uh the shooter in Nashville and about the manifesto and basically all of the things that people are assuming is in there is in there stuff like you know Christians are committing a trans genocide whoa this is not any. Stuff like, you know, Christians are committing transgenocide. Whoa. This is not any way to fight back. I've heard this from three or four sources, too. You've heard this already?

I've been careful to say it publicly. Sorry. No, continue. It's my fault. Please. It's very important. Yeah, just that the Nashville DA and mayor are very left-leaning, and they're doing their best to not get it released

because of what they think the optics are going to be afterwards. And my question, because I'm very dissatisfied with our representation here, BlackBerry especially. I'm actually calling for office about Robin Starbuck, didn't get a reply. But what can we do

to put pressure, like y'all over here, why are us as do to put pressure like y'all, the data, why are us as individuals to put pressure on the state to try to get this released? Could do like a Freedom of Information Act type request, the state level ones. That's an interesting, yeah, I mean it's very I think it's simple, I think, not

simple, but I think one of the victim's families just has to sue if we don't get it anytime soon. They will probably get it. They. And they will probably get it. They said they're going to release it. The FBI did? Yeah, after they complete a profile. Wait, so why does the FBI have jurisdiction

if they haven't opened a hate crime investigation? Right. Why has no one asked that question? I think you just did. I didn't ask because I didn't know. I don't know the technicals about it. Well, the FBI doesn't have jurisdiction over. The Nashville police.

It's a local crime. It's a local crime unless there's a hate crime. But what was weird is, that's interesting, because the Nashville police said that they would release it after the FBI did a review. Yeah, so somebody in D.C. knew what this was. Here's my guess. And it's speculation.

I was wrong about Maggie Haberman, so I could be wrong about this. But here's my guess. You didn't finish that water. Yeah, I'm going to. My guess is that they were tracking and communicating with this girl on Discord or one of the chat servers. Radicalizing? They do say that she was planning it for months. Maybe, but I think they had her spotted. I think they had her on a list. And my very dark, I hope I'm wrong theory, please pray I'm wrong, is that this got mucked up in the bureaucracy because she was a trans person. So do you think this would then be then a hate crime? So that's why they're trying to keep it on federal?

Well, it would be. So they're actually resisting a hate crime call because then that would then justify a narrative they don't like. Which is that, yeah. That it's Christians are being slaughtered because hate crimes against Christians are not exactly in vogue right now. No one likes... Very much so. Have there been any American hate crimes against Christians? Well, there are all the time. Right, but I mean, has it been prosecuted like that? I'm sure there has been. Most of it gets Muslims or blacks. Well, because hate crimes themselves, it's only a relatively recent

crime designation. It's a recent phenomenon yeah and so and also to prosecute a hate crime is a much higher standard you have to have total intent right yes and so if i could um i do remember i don't know if this happened i doubt it in the united states but i remember seeing stories about canada and uk about people burning churches down yep yeah but can, that's a whole big thing in Canada. Yeah, and no one got charged with a hate crime for the burning of St. John's Church outside of the

White House. I think they lied about Notre Dame. Do you think it was the Islamic? I don't know about that. I'm just saying, what did they say, like a cigarette was lit or something? And I'm like, we're seeing waves of churches get burned down. I don't know who's doing it.

It's across Canada for sure. But I don't want to blame Islam. I blame the left. If I was going to have a conspiracy theory, it would be that leftists are the ones doing it. But I don't know for sure. All I know is if there's a bunch of churches starting on fire and then Notre Dame starts on fire,

my immediate assumption isn't another accident happened. Right. Yeah. And so. Super quick, if I could. My phone is about to die. But I have a request. Yeah.

So I haven't heard this talked about too much exactly. But there's this whole, you know, what people are talking about, a wave of anti-Semitism and whatnot. And what I've noticed, and I ask this of y'all because I know that you've had Hotep Jesus on before. We have. I've seen, it's pretty prevalent in the Arab community, and he has a lot of videos pushing the idea that black people are the real Jews and the whole black Hebrew Israelite ideology. It's growing and growing and growing from what I've noticed. He's been on all these people's shows and nobody's asked him about it.

We're not allowed to. I'm pretty sure that's what Kanye started getting into. We'll get banned from YouTube in two seconds. Oh, is that right? You can't ask somebody about their views? If Hoteb Jesus starts talking, this is what YouTube protects. This is what YouTube protects. This is what Twitter protects. This is what Facebook protects.

It's a cross-examination of bad ideas. So not that—I'm not super familiar with Hotep Jesus on this one. So that I'll own up to, and maybe we should know that if that's what he's pushing, because I would absolutely push him out on this. There's a bunch of videos of him talking about it. There are quite a few. Yeah, because I didn't know that. I know i know that he was like inching towards it last time i was in the show and i was like what's he trying to get at here like i didn't know that he but but my point is this the most it drives me absolutely fucking insane that youtube protects people who have the most abhorrent views

because if i challenge them youtube YouTube will ban us. Yeah. They let them be unchallenged. I was wondering if that was the case. I appreciate the clarity on that. Fucking YouTube. But in reference to Hosea of Jesus, I did not know he held those views. I don't even find him that offensive. Like Kanye, obviously,

I pushed back on. If there were black people that are descended from Israelites, fuck, that's cool. Well, there's the 12 tribes. Yeah, Levi was one of them judah was one of them then the jews came from judah sold his brother into slavery he was the one that sold joseph into slavery interesting you remember the story you know what's fascinating about being

the fascinating part to me about joseph being sold into slavery is that if joseph wasn't sold into slavery the israelites all would have starved to death in that famine he wouldn't have gone to egypt and then his brothers wouldn't have come back to beg for... Right. Because he ended up going to Egypt. He ended up getting very powerful. And so when his brothers came to look for food in Egypt, he was able to give it to them. That's right.

And there's this long dialogue in four or five chapters where they don't even know it's him. It's fascinating. He decides not to tell them. Yes, that's right. It's very dramatic. And he's not sure what to do. Yeah.

And they're weeping. It's unbelievably beautifully written. Yeah, it's right. It's very dramatic. And he's not sure what to do. Yeah, and they're weeping. It's unbelievably beautifully written. Yeah, it's wonderful. The people, so it was Joseph? Well, so Joseph had 11 brothers. He was the youngest, right? So Joseph could interpret dreams, and it wasn't him. It was God interpreting dreams through him.

He was very clear about that. And he was the favorite of Yaakov, Jacob, Israel, right? And it says in the original Hebrew, he was a child of jacob's old age which means it was just he was a child of delight he just found a lot of joy in him and he had favoritism towards joseph gave him like this really nice jacket nice jacket grandfather yeah and then so then his brothers basically plotted and be like we're taking this guy on the road and threw him into a ditch and then basically didn't know what was going to happen of him. They lied, obviously, to his father. They said, oh, something happened to him.

And he got then sold into slavery to Egypt, gotten thrown into the prison in Egypt, won favor by interpreting dreams in Egypt, grew close to Pharaoh. And then he basically has a dream about a famine, predicts the famine, makes Egypt survive. And then his 10 brothers, because there's one brother that was missing that,

I think it was Benjamin. Yeah, and Benjamin was the same brother of his mother. That's right. The rest of the brothers were his half-brothers. Yeah, were 10 half-brothers. They come back, and the book of Genesis basically ends with Joseph and his brothers basically taking over the Egyptian government. And Pharaoh was really cool. And then the turning point verse in the Torah is in Exodus 1-7, where it says,

and then a king came over Egypt who did not know Joseph. It was a bad Pharaoh who showed up. Yeah, basically, it's like we forgot about what Joseph did for us. But don't forget, Joseph was metooed before he ended up in Pharaoh's palace. That's right. He was falsely accused for sleeping and trying to be a cremate adultery with Pharaoh's wife. No, it was like the soldier guy. It wasn't Pharaoh yet.

Remember? Oh, is that right? He was in the house of like the guard. No, it was like the soldier guy. It wasn't Pharaoh yet. Remember? Oh, is that right? He was in the house of like the guard. No, you're right. Yeah, but I thought it was... And the guard's wife was like hot for him. You're right. It actually goes out of its way to say Joseph was a good looking man.

Yeah. In the Hebrew. What a life. He was a stud. Yeah. So he ended up getting me too. That's when he got thrown into prison. Yeah.

And then he interpreted the dreams. Yeah. I skipped over that part. Yeah. So he ended up getting me too. That's when he got thrown into prison. Yeah. And then he interpreted the dreams. Yeah. I skipped over that part. Yeah. I just always think that's interesting. The claim of the anti-Semitism, though, is that they think that the line of Judah, which is actually where you get the word Jew, is a false line and that basically they're calling all the Jews liars.

And so that is a rather anti-Semitic belief. That's to complete the point. We are just about for the torah lesson and it's time so want to make sure if uh read me if you have anything else you want to add nothing uh just that i've been watching y'all since i was 16 uh 23 now i have a kid really appreciate the work that you guys are doing um Ian I love you but sometimes you kiss me off welcome to my world man

that's how my mind thinks about myself right on man thanks for calling in dude really do appreciate it make videos too you're inspirational and next time

you come to Nashville come and see do a fan meetup or something I took off work to go to the Redneck Riviera didn't end up happening I was gonna do it

I said fuck these guys but they said to me there are kids here walking around if someone does show up go to the Redneck Riviera didn't end up happening I was gonna do it I said fuck these guys but they said to me there are kids here walking around if someone does show up you're putting them in danger and I was like

okay man I can't do it so I would love to do like a heavily secured show yeah I've got family in West Virginia so I hope we'll figure it out man yeah dude the club

once we have it up and running it's gonna be lit alright man thanks for calling in cheers absolutely thank you guys and we'll wind things up went a little bit longer than I wanted to because I know you gotta bounce Charlie but thanks for hanging out I love hanging out with you guys All right, man. Thanks for calling in. Cheers. Absolutely. Thank you, guys. And we'll wind things up. Went a little bit longer than I wanted to because I know you got to bounce, Charlie.

Thanks for hanging out. I love hanging out with you guys. Really special thing you have going. I love the religion talk. That was absolutely fascinating. Oh, thank you. Yeah, absolutely. And I'm not saying that the Spanish Inquisition shits on Christianity. I'm just saying that consolidating the power of religion in one place can allow for things like the Spanish Inquisition. I agree with that.

That's why I believe in the small d democratization of the word more people reading the word the better the world all right man thanks for hanging out with us charlie and for everybody who's a member seriously thank you all so much i can't tell you how much how excited i am for this for this poker club because i was talking shit i got really pissed off saturday Basically, long story. I'm going to build my own. Exactly. The long story short of it is I hang out at this local casino all the time in the poker room and at the table games. It's a one-two game. It's a $60 to $300 buy-in. I like to buy it at the bottom at $60 and just see if I can earn my way up.

Some days I do really well. I basically do well enough. And some guy got mad that I beat him, started talking insane shit. They wouldn't do anything about it. And I'm like, I'm going to make my own poker club. And we're going to make

our elite social club. And it's going to be close by. And we're going to attract all the cool people. I'm going to come hang out all the time. And it's going to be fun.

So that's what we're doing. And I hope to see you all there. So thanks for hanging out. The floor plan has just been drawn up. They're doing plumbing on the first floor. We have one of the tables

for the games already under construction. I'm talking with local government about what we need to do to get a license. It is happening. Thanks for hanging out. We'll see you all next time. Happy Easter. Thanks, guys.