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Oh, boy. Are you guys excited for this one? Take a look at this from DC Drano. The American Red Cross is now asking blood donors if they ever received the covet vaccine if you answer yes they want you to call ahead to see if you're still eligible thought the vax was safe and effective what info are they hiding from us so i actually went to the red cross website on my phone did the 79 78 questions and went through the whole thing yes the question is real it is the last question and it absolutely does say if you answer yes you should call to determine if you're

still eligible because there's criteria where the covid vaccine will make you ineligible to transfer blood to another person we now have this breaking news from the hill largest multi-country covid uh covid study links vaccines to potential adverse effects this is the olds what the whoopty freaking do i guess you know what i mean so uh what do you think the adverse effects are blood clots myocarditis and what do you know shocking this the the problems that everyone has been discussing for the better part of two and a half, three years now, now the powers that be are like, oh, hey, we just noticed something, guys. Dude, all those people are like, a government told me to inject myself with a bunch of shit and then they just did it.

What in the fucking fuck? This is what I said to Casey Neistat. That's not fair. What the fuck? You can't just be like, oh, the government said, because like,

they were coercing people, dude. It's worse than this. Casey Neistat tweeted, go get vaccinated. I responded with, no, go talk to your doctor. He said, that's weird weird i didn't go to my doctor i just pulled up in a drive-thru and i said you pulled into a strange parking lot and

let a strange man inject you with a foreign substance that's fucking insane there is a lot of people that were coerced though you're right and i feel for those people man that the rage they must be feeling right now well i mean again there's there's a lot of people that were coerced and there's way more people that nothing is going to happen to and they're not going to have any adverse effects in their lives there are some people that are going to have adverse effects and it sucks for those people but like the people that went got it that got coerced into it got it and don't have adverse health effects they're gonna go about their day and gonna be like i

don't understand why people are so upset this is because that because they're because their experience is everything was fine now it's not to say every it is for everyone but they're still going to be like i don't you know it doesn't bother me or whatever so you can't sit there and be like oh man you should blah blah know, doesn't bother me or whatever. So you can't sit there and be like, oh, man, you should blah, blah, blah, blah. Because you're going to get people that are like, what are you talking about, man? That's not like that's not even close to what anyone I know experience or whatever. So the idea like I understand having that perspective and I understand that there are people that are like that. But that is a that is not the majority.

This is the CDC. Yeah. This is a global COVID vaccine safety project supported by the Center for Disease Control and Prevention. This is straight up U.S. DHS and CDC fucking outright saying they have found increases increased risk of Guillain-Barre and myocarditis after vaccination. AstraZeneca was worse. People were getting convulsions. This is a bigger turning point than I think people give it credit for. Because you had a period of time where all these people that were completely wrong would never admit it. They couldn't.

It was their reputation. It was their entire legacy. It was everything. You know, for some of them, it was profit. Right? But it was like they could never come out and admit that they were wrong to push so many people when it came to the jab they're not going they're not doing they're not doing that now but that's what i'm gonna say is i think this is like i think by the time that happens it'll be way too late for it to have any

meaningful uh interact you know there won't be any meaning to it when it happens i don't think it's ever gonna happen yeah i'm saying like we're talking history books 20 30 40 years from now but i think it's funny how you're starting to see the little slip-ups right we're like now they're like crap well due to liability we probably should at least admit you know i mean when the american red cross is like hey uh if you've had the jab we need to talk give us a call that that's that's a change in tone that we haven't seen but i think the red cross has been doing this for a while so apparently apparently the news about not giving blood is old, but people are just starting to notice. The news that a CDC-supported group is definitively saying, yeah, the vaccine causes these problems. Well, holy shit.

Are you saying they say cause or they're correlated? Increased risk. I mean, they never say that. They always say a significant increase in cases of Guillain-Barre among those who receive AstraZeneca. ADAM, which is acute disseminated encephalomyelitis, inflammation of the brain and spinal cord from Moderna. Jesus Christ. And both Pfizer and Moderna were associated with myocarditis and pericarditis. And a significant observed to expected ratio after the first, second, and third doses.

Wow. I just don't know if it was. Yo, they're straight up saying die. When they're like, have you gotten your seventh vaccine yet? It's like, okay, well, that will kill you. If this is like intentional, that they're like, let's just poison people so that there's less of them. Or if they were really trying, somebody was really trying to help. You need to understand this.

It was liberals who were injecting themselves with the myocarditis formula. But then they shed spike proteins on their neighbors and shit. I think they're spraying it on food too, mRNA. They're shedding, look man, you inject someone with a chemical, I doubt they start spraying it from their sweat glands i mean maybe but i'm not protein shedding is there like because listen listen if that were

true the protein shedding thing pissing it into the then you would have people who are not vaccinated dying from the same thing as people who are vaccinated so i don't probably not as intense the shedding if there are people who are getting gianbarre and myocarditis and we know they're all vaccinated and then the people who never got vaccinated are like, never happened to me. Right. They're not shedding. It's just like- Or that the shedding's not as dangerous as it sounds.

I like the conspiracy theory that like one in six of the vaccines were like lethal. And that's why most people, I'm not saying it's true. I can picture a group of dudes being like, let's kill them. Let's kill as many as we can. It's the plot to, what's that show called? Utopia. let's kill them let's kill as many as we can it's the plot to uh to uh what's that show called utopia the tech billionaire who thinks the world is overpopulated creates a fake pandemic so we can mass produce a vaccine and get it steamrolled through congress without real approval and it sterilizes people there you go awesome well look it's not that there's too many people okay it's

that there's too many liberals and communists not that there's too many people, OK? It's that there's too many liberals and communists. There's always guys. Guys, I don't literally want people to die or to be sterilized, but understand the PR of us looking at liberals and saying, I hope you get the vaccine. Please get your six, because when you die, there will be less of you. How do they respond to that? Can't kill an idea. That's the problem with ideas uh

also the power of ideas i'm really glad that you're going to sterilize your children cut their balls off we don't want more of you what are they going to say how dare you say that that's offensive why i'm agreeing with you please chop your son's balls off i don't want your your genetics to pollute my my my country i don't mean that literally to pollute my country. I don't mean that literally. I'm trying to, like, create a circumstance in which the left should be offended by what they're doing to themselves. We're happy you're doing it. Please do more.

Maybe then they'll fucking stop. Wait a minute. You want us to sterilize our kids? Yes. Maybe we shouldn't do that. Aw. This is where we're currently at man who to thunk it right yeah ideas ideas definitely uh seem to die yeah but uh except for communism you think that idea

would just die off capitalism probably won't die off either capitalism is more than an idea it's more like reality it's yeah right it's like it's like the functioning system of resource exchange yeah communism is the unnatural weird shit but capitalism is kind of like an enforced regularity i think that so i think that you're talking when you talk about capitalism you're talking about like a you're talking about like a lot more stuff than just like exchange no he's talking he's talking about corporatocracy or something. Capitalism quite literally just means the private exchange of goods and resources. Yeah. And we aren't a purely capitalist economy anyway. We haven't been for a long time.

We're a mixed economy. We have social services. I guess it took us a while to figure out monopolies and how dangerous they were. No, no, no. Listen, listen. Go back. Go back in time 50,000 years to the dawn of the first man. And there are two guys.

And they're not even wearing clothes. And the one guy has some kind of primitive proto-banana. You ever see the old banana? Like they're starchy. Yeah, like they're ovals. And the other guy walking has got a, you know, sack.

He's got a goat's stomach tied in a knot where he poured the goat's milk into it. They then walk up to each other and the guy goes, Oh, go. And then the other guy goes, Oh, none. And then they go, Ah.

They break it in half, and they trade. That's capitalism. There's no system. There's no government. They freely traded goods amongst each other for what they thought was the true value of the goods. That's what capitalism means. Whether there's a government or not, it exists.

It's just the way things are. Communism would be a third guy walks up, whacks them both over the head, takes their stuff, sits with it, eats most of it, and then gives them little bits. That's communism. I love when people, the biggest argument against capitalism... Discover the magic of Bad MGM Casino,

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the insurance companies the corporations you know the health it's not really even health care it's health insurance it's command economy and it's like it i don't want to say we don't have capitalism but like we absolutely do not have free market capitalism in this country. We are a mixed economy. We're not a free market capitalist country. We're not a capitalist country. The United States is not capitalist. It is mixed economy.

I think you're right. And people get wrapped up around the concept of capitalism, what capitalism means. Is it about all these other structures and stuff, or it just markets and etc etc and i think that even capitalism as an idea or or the term capitalism is is not really useful in my opinion because it's it's been watered down to not mean what it actually means we live in a system where we have a government that protects private property rights. And that's all you need. Yeah, that's true. If you have private property rights, all of the things that you want from capitalism stem from that.

Yeah. and the right to dispose of your property as you see fit and the right to keep any property that you acquire or that that property you currently own generates for you as long as those those structures those ideas are protected by your by your government and they have to be more than just well we'll mostly kind of do it like the stuff that's happening in New York right now with Donald Trump. The fact that the government's not protecting his property rights, that's going to have negative effects on the economy. And the negative effects are people are not going to do business in New York. They're going to leave. As long as you have property rights that are protected by your government and you have the ability to keep the property that you create, you're going to have people taking the property that they've earned

or that they've created and they're going to be trading. You're probably going to want a medium of exchange to facilitate the trades because maybe you got sneakers and someone else has eggs and you want some eggs, but he don't want your sneakers. So it'd be nice if you had something that you could use to the intermediary to facilitate that transaction. But these are the fundamental things about capitalism that makes economies work. All of the things like the government getting involved in picking winners and losers and

corporate corporatism and all that stuff, that's all foreign to property rights into a capitalist system. You know, I was thinking a lot about this and, you know, reading more and more about what's been going on. I really just came to the realization, fuck communists. Yeah. I mean. It sucks so much, dude.

Fuck the idea. It sucks so much. The problem is it gets, it infests people's soul. And it's not the people that are the problem. It's the idea. You got to shake them loose and make them realize like, yo, if all of us get together and make it work, it's going to be some people at the top that end up controlling it. Shaking or maybe like a merciless beating with a truncheon. I am kidding.

With your words. Your verbal truncheon. I know that like, no violence. I'm not really a spiritual guy, so I don't delve into spiritual stuff, but the spirit of socialism, the motivating emotion, it's never altruism.

They say it is, but it's always hate for people that have more, hate for people they... Someone looks at someone else's life and they say, that guy has more than I think he should. And I hate him for it. If he was a good person,

if Elon Musk was a good fucking person, he would sell his goddamn spaceships and feed everyone on earth but he's a bastard for not doing it and that's why we have fucking poor people because Elon Musk and the goddamn billionaires are fucking scum.

That's what they think. It also comes from like if there's a hundred of us we're all going to be better off if all hundred of us have some. If I keep it all and you 99 get to watch me have it, it's bad. So you want to spread it around in the community? Hold on, hold on. And the word communism and commune and community.

You are talking quite literally about communism. I agree. You're right. When one person seizes all the resources from everyone else to keep for himself, that's communism. It's bad. Agreed. Or when you divide all the resources among the community.

I'll bet. Who are they to divide? it's bad agree or when you divide all the resources among the community yeah how about if i if i have all the food because i grew all the food within my farm and there's 99 other people who want it they can go fuck themselves thank you well i mean if you're a tribe and you come up on a new piece you're you're adding you're adding every time you talk about it you're adding more context and more more things more rules to your system. It's not about fuck him. This is a system of I want to help all these other people. That's how it starts.

It always starts that way. And it works in small groups. You want to know how you help people? You teach them to fish. You do not give them fish. So if I have a bunch of fish. You do both if you can. No, you don't.

You do. You want to make sure everyone can fish and everyone gets fish. No, there are signs everywhere saying do not feed the animals. They'll become dependent and then die. That's real. You know what happens if you feed deer? The deer go up to people's homes and kill children. Do not fucking give to the deer.

The deer have to learn how to survive on their own. People do this all the time where they put up deer feeders. You're talking about adults. Okay. The deer will come to the house and they'll be like, ooh, I want the deer an apple they have videos where the deer walks in the kitchen they're like oh look at the deer family the deer family then goes to a different house and does the same thing and the kid freaks out the deer gets scared and kicks the kid so what about the crippled guy that can't fish what about the kids that can't they they're too young like you got to give them fish

coins to exchange value for the fish supported by their parents and people who are crippled must provide value in another way to be traded for the fish. The idea that we as a human civilization can support indefinitely people who can't carry their own weight in any capacity is a mathematical fact. It will collapse. Period. it only works in small groups that's the point i think right so if a group of people are in a tribe and they come across a a bountiful forest full of delicious fruits well then yeah they can take what they want and then divide it amongst each other for the labor that they provide the guy that gets there first is like i'm gonna take all these and sell them to the tribe you're gonna like that guy's gonna get executed probably because he did not

grow them and do the labor for it and there's barbarism no that's theft no it didn't belong to anybody he just found it first then if it's then if it's if it doesn't belong to anybody why would they kill him for for taking it no no no war happens i mean if you fuck your tribe over for for profit like no you know no get bent He finds the fruit and then says. He's a scout. Yeah, he's a scout. I found it all and I have hoarded it and it's mine. Yeah.

Yeah. Good luck with that one. Yeah. Good luck. Right. If you can't defend your property. From the community. And so this is war.

So then Mike makes right. So if he has a gun, he can just shoot everybody trying to take it. Right. I mean, these are just. Yes, but that's not communism. Yeah, but it's the way I look at it is you're sanitizing force. By giving it to the government, right, weak men do that, right, they're giving the option to the tribe or whoever this fictitious thing is that, you know, it's always who gets to decide. Right. It's just like on hate speech. We all love to end hate speech speech if we could decide what hate speech is or who's the person that decides what

is hate speech, right? When you get into that, like there's that layer here, you're saying he's adding rules. It's like, who makes that decision? There was a guy I was with last week. He had this really unique way, super libertarian guy, but he said, he says, I'm tired of people sanitizing theft and violence through their neighbor, right? Through government or trying to act like that somehow that's this moral high ground. So there's only two things that take away happiness every single time it happens to somebody, any of us, any human being, violence, theft. If those happen, 100% of the time your happiness goes down. But for some reason, we give those over to the government.

And we say that through our elected officials, this is something that we're going to delegate to them and then make it okay. So let's talk about the idea of a scout going to an apple orchard. And he says, these are my apples now. By what practical means does he have to own, convey, and trade with these apples? He can carry a bag of them back to the tribe. And what happens when he does carry the bag of apples back to the tribe they say you find a bunch of apples he then says i will provide these apples to my tribe in exchange for steak

and water and food and shelter he's not building a house he's a scout someone had to have built his shelter for him in small scale communities this stuff is is very very simple trade but it is the essence of capitalism. He went out, found fruit. He brought it back. He expects something in return. Insurance used to be really simple. There was a small village.

Everybody built a house. Insurance existed as if my house burns down, you will all help me build a new one. And if your house burns down, I will help you build one. And if someone didn't, they'd say, fuck you. Then we're not going to help you ever again. The fire department would sell badges you'd put on your house. And if your house was burning and they showed up and you didn't have a badge, they would let your house burn. That's the way things were. That's the nature of capitalism. And so if it's a really small group of people,

the guy who finds the apples and then says, no one can have any of my apples would just basically lie to the rest of his tribe and say, there are apples for what purpose what would he gain what would he trade and how would he benefit he could come back with apples and yes still he would have a shelter he would have a family he would have friends the trade is just such dramatically small scale there's no real need for large large systems of intermediary trade like we have with dollars. But now let's say there's three tribes. One tribe finds a bunch of apples. They want to trade those apples with the other tribe who has no apples, but they have fish. So they come to mutual agreements and exchange.

And perhaps then there is the creation of an intermediary so that they can exchange and trade. Why should the scout for one tribe give the other tribes all of the apples they found in exchange for nothing when they did took the risk did the work to locate and secure the apples in the first place yeah it was when tribes started settling together in cities that we really started population expansion capitalism no capitalism always existed they would they would use they would use shells as a trade medium like someone would bring something somewhere and because once you got them for once you got to a hundred people you'd have a guy and he'd be like hey i have a fish and the guy says i have a fish it's like but i really need that wood it's like i don't i don't

need a fish okay what if i give you a shell or five fish no not even i don't like the value of the fish is lower so you can give me more of them shell because the intermediary allows them to trade for things that's it advanced from barter into intermediary point is communism the concept isn't evil in small groups it functions but no it's not as a national governance system it is non-functional it's evil i don't think the idea that you're entitled to someone else taking care of you you're entitled to the time of someone else's the effort that someone else you're entitled to it to take care of you that is evil you're not as a child you're not entitled to your father you're now you added child though yes adults children you're talking if you're talking about family unit okay a family

is a family if you're talking about adults you're talking about adults but when you're talking about kids you're talking you're not talking about communism you're talking about governance you're talking you're small groups you're talking about a family as opposed to adults that are capable. So if you're going to talk about families, and when you say communism, we're talking about adults that are capable. As soon as you bring up families, you've changed the subject.

But they're not talking about people that are only capable in this world right now. They want to give to people that can't do. That's part of this communistic. Those are special cases. The reason they're special cases is because in most market economies mixed economies the reason you have a mixed economy is so that you can take care of the people that can't so you have a capitalist system or a a system with private property so that you can actually produce capital so that way you can

take the things you have and make more so that way you can give to people that don't have anything but if you are talking about a capitalist system or if you're talking about a communist system you're talking about adults dealing with other adults as soon as you say well you have a children then we've stopped talking about anything that's related to communism and you're only talking about families and stuff so if you want to talk about adults and adults communism where adults are expecting other adults to provide the sustenance from each according to his ability to each according to his need if you're talking about adults doing that that is evil because you end up with people you end up listen human nature has proven over and over and over and over and over every time communism is tried you they have proven that people will say i don't have to work i'm not gonna old sayings in the soviet union they pretend to

pay us so we pretend to work the reason you stand the reason you stand in bread lines is because if you're standing in line and you you have nothing to do you're literally just taking up time because they don't have any work for you to do because the economy doesn't produce shit in venezuela when i went to buy a cell phone to manufacture fake jobs for the purpose of socialism there were seven different people i had to talk to and fill out forms for to buy a cell phone in the united states you walk and you walk to one person say i want that phone they say okay let's fill this all out what's your name what you do in venezuela you walk in and someone asks you what you want you say i want a cell phone. Okay. Then they send you to the cell phone guy. The cell phone guy will show you pictures of phones.

You then ask them about what the phones do and say, I want this one. Okay. Then they send you to the phone acquisition guy who then has a display case with the physical phones. You then explain to him which phone you've chosen from the phone salesman. He then goes in the back and finds the phone for you. You now have your phone. Next up, the data guy.

Now you go talk to somebody who can tell you about data. Talk to this guy, and then he says, okay, now I need to talk. Now that you know which data you want, you have to fill out this form and bring this form to the data acquisition man, who then facilitates the sale of the data. I'm not kidding. Then you go to the data sale guy, and after you give him the form, pay for it, he sends you to the SIM card guy. Finally, then after you buy the SIM card, you Finally, then, after you buy the SIM card, you bring it to the final guy for checkout and assembly, and you finalize everything. He puts your phone together, hands it to you, and you can leave.

To Tim's point, in New York City, if you are working at a venue, the theater guilds, the theater unions, the labor unions, they have pushers and loaders if you are if you roll up with your your bus your your 18 wheeler there are the people that will take the

stuff out of the truck and put it on the ground those are the loaders they will not push that stuff to the stage there are pushers for that and that means and if and so so you if you can have your stuff unloaded and they don't have the pushers there, you wait until the pushers go. So your whole crew is sitting around doing nothing. If I try to walk on stage after they've turned the lights off because of the union, they will literally yell at me because of the union. This happened in New York when we

were doing our event. We were doing a live show. I said I want to check out the stage. The union crew came out yelling at us saying that we were violating their contract or whatever by being on stage. The union crew came out yelling at us saying that we were violating their contract or whatever by being on stage. But that's union stuff. There was a professor, this is a famous story, who was giving a lesson on communism to the students. And there were students who were arguing in favor of saying exactly what Ian is saying. So he said, okay,

we're going to do. The next exam we do will be based on a communistic standard. Everyone will do work. The total fruits of your labor will be divided evenly amongst everyone based on a communistic standard. Everyone will do work. The total fruits of your labor will be divided evenly amongst everyone based on what they need. Sound good? Great. Everybody needs a passing grade. What happened? A decent amount of the students studied and passed with A's, A pluses. A large portion got B's and C's, and then a few people failed. The teacher then said to each according to their needs, you need a passing grade. So we're going to take all of the scores from all the tests, average them out, and then give everyone the same grade because that's the total amount of resources to be distributed

amongst the people. Everyone ended up with like a B minus. So a lot of people were like, well, I had that anyway. The people who studied really hard and got it right, got fucking pissed. And they were like, oh, this is bullshit. My grades being dropped by, I didn't do anything wrong. The people who failed were laughing because they were like, I didn't do shit. I hung out with my friends and drank and I get a passing grade.

The next time, so next week they did another quiz, another exam. This time everyone got C minus. Why? Because the people who worked hard said, fuck that. I'm not going C minus. Why? Because the people who worked hard said, fuck that. I'm not going to bother. I'll just get a B anyway, right? Now everyone's grades dropped because nobody wanted to do the extra work. If all they were going to get was a B, the cap was a B. If you do 100%, if you do the best, you still can only get a B. So fuck it. Let's stop at 80. Next week, everyone failed. Because once everyone realized that no matter how much work you did, you were capped out,

they all just started slacking off and said, someone else will carry the weight for me. Yeah, I don't think it's good. And this is exactly how all communist systems have functioned. But we got to go to college. The way to convince people to shake that mindset is to acknowledge that in small groups, it functions when you have compassion, but it does not scale. You're saying small groups because you're using the analogy of the family that we've made and small communities where you know provide the goods because if you go up to someone that is believes in communism is great and you say

no you're wrong you're an idiot and fuck communism and fuck you they're not going to listen to you it doesn't matter nothing to acknowledge that there is some value to the concept you do not this is why if you want to convince somebody you got to understand their side of you so this is this is the issue ian that you you you've not been able to ever get over you are arguing 17 different things at once no i'm not you are literally i'm saying that communism doesn't scale up okay it's in small communities so when we make the point that you are misunderstanding the family argument which was a statement of a family is communist. And as you scale up, it doesn't work. That's because there is one resource provider,

the dad, or there could be multiple. The breadwinner in the traditional family where the argument comes from that a family is communist. There is one. Just talk about a tribe. Talk about a tribe where everybody knows each other. A tribe is very different.

60 to 40 people, 30, 20 hunters, 20 fishers. Three guys are farming. Yes. Stuff all sharing stuff you still don't have communism that would be a form of communism that would work in small it's it's it's it's still not communism you're that's your vision of capitalism wouldn't work in that system your tribal systems you have have have leaders yeah communism says from each according to their ability to each according to their need.

So the leader wouldn't be hoarding all the capital in that system. That would be dangerous. That's what communism is. That's capitalism. If a tribal chieftain says I own all of this and all of you, that would also be slavery. That is literally what happens in every communist state as they scale up.

That's the point. It is literally the basis of all communism ever that the basis of all communism ever that the authority controls all resources and literally i will say it again provides to each according to their need and from each according to their ability quite literally saying there will be a system in place by which a small group of people determine your abilities and your requirements. You do not get to decide. That's going to happen in capitalism too. In capitalism

you have someone who has the choice to say go fuck yourself. Wait, who? Donald Trump? Who gets to say go fuck yourself in this capitalism? You. Every single person that decides I don't want to do business with you. The banks that own your fucking debt? Every single person. I have no debt. I have no debt. Ian banks that own your fucking debt? Every single person.

I have no debt. I have no debt, Ian. Why? All your money is debt. No, it's not. Yes, it is. I have no debt. The Federal Reserve loaned all that shit to you, dude.

Listen, listen, Ian. It owns all the capital. Here's the fuck you, ready? I chose to give Steve Jobs money by buying this. I could have said fuck you and never bought this product. There was no tyrannical force involved. There was nobody that said I had to do it. There was not one guy who said, we have to purchase these iPhones, right?

I think the fuck you is the consumer can say that. Now, you might say, well, what if you're starving, right? You can't say fuck you and walk away from food. But in a true capitalist society, it's the consumer choosing, making that choice because this was provided, a product was provided, and then we all say, hey, it's worth it. I see some androids around here, so maybe people would disagree, but what I'm saying is that's the fuck you moment.

The thing with the family, though, that's interesting to me, there's no tyrannical force in a family. Sure, you could say the parents are the ones that decide, but you're not turning over the law system. You're not turning, like these families exist right now if you say an american family you know there are basic laws that the government has on the books but a dad can't all of a sudden legalize murder right and like they're not in charge of everything and children can leave at 18 right or arguably they can file paperwork and leave at 16 but that's the

missing piece a family doesn't have some government that gives them all authority and power from from each according to their ability to each according to their need fundamentally requires a an individual committee or authority to determine a person's ability and needs that's marx that's marxism uh sure yeah but the idea and that that was the formation and basis he's trying to scale that shit up and it did not work. Capitalism would be the government says you have the ability to work 10 times harder and you don't need that much food and you can go, go fuck yourself. I can do whatever I want. And you have to live with the repercussions of that decision. Yeah, maybe you live in the gutter and then people eventually say, we don't want you living in the gutter because you smell like shit. Get the fuck out of here.

And they kick you out and then you go wander around the country and then people eventually say, we don't want you living in the gutter because you smell like shit, get the fuck out of here. And they kick you out and then you go wander around the country and then you struggle. Or you say, I'm going to, I don't know, here's capitalism. I can actually grow 20% more crops that I actually need. I can then take the extra crops and bring it to a leather worker in town

who's going to make me a nice studded leather vest to protect me from the brambles as I do my work, making it more efficient and easier for me to do my work. In communism, an authority determines you do not need that extra 20%, but you have the ability to produce it. So from your ability, you must produce 20% more than everyone else. And to your needs, we will take it from you and give it to other people that's communism i don't think that it necessarily forces you to produce more than you need from each according to their ability if you have the ability to produce 100 bushels of wheat you must do it if you only need 10 dude that's what communism's formation marxism that's marxism he fucked it up hey hey try to scale hey hey hey

communism marx wrote a book called capital capitalism comes from marx socialism as a concept did predate marx right so rousseau was talking about socialism there are people that argue that hegel was laying the foundation for socialism because the way that Hegel looked at the state, Hegel believed that the state was God's manifestation on earth, was the manifestation of the will of God on earth.

There are arguments that Hegel was the first guy that came up or was early socialism, but Marx was the guy that came up with communism. If you're talking about communism. You want to just read that for him, Phil? Let's see which one.

Which part? Lenin was influenced by the works of Karl Marx in September 1889. The Ulyanov family moved to the city of Samaria where Lenin joined Alexei Sklyarenko's socialist discussion circle. So, but communism came from Marx first.

So if you're talking about the things that you're talking about. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And just before we do this, I want to say, Ian, you should read Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith because he talks about monopolies and why monopolies are bad explicitly. He has a whole thing talking about it. Just to quickly address that.

Anyways, let's talk to Dave, the Lego guy, because I like Legos, and I built a Lego this weekend. It was a scorpion. It was pretty sick. How you doing, Dave? I just want to say something real quick. Before you get started, Dave. One second, Dave. The amount of work that I am capable of doing is painful, and I do it every

day. And if I were to only receive what I needed, $80,000 a year year but i had to work what i was capable of working i would kill myself yeah seriously i mean that's happened in communism before it has happened literally overwhelmingly anyway anyway dave anyways hey guys glad to be back this is what my third time on? Thanks. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, what's going on, man? Yeah. So, I actually have, like, the most on-point question today.

It just worked out that way. My question is actually for the whole panel. Serge, even you can answer on this one. I filed my taxes yesterday. And I got a historically low return on my taxes, and my tax guy was saying that's happening across the board. Thanks, Joe. My question is, have you guys noticed in your higher tax brackets that the government is keeping more of our money? I have given the government so much of of of my money it is remarkable in fact um

i could probably fund a small village uh holy shit if i didn't have to pay taxes that it's it's i mean it would be it would be absolutely nuts the only reason taxes exist is because they want to pull money out of the money supply because they're printing it so that's how they that's how they steal they they will give loans uh create money upon the issuance of debt and then take money from you to erase the money they put out it's a way of taking your money out of circulation to control for inflation that's all they're really doing that being said um as my accountant has informed me since donald trump left office the tax cuts have expired and joe button has increased taxes substantially and it has been brutal for literally everybody and they're particularly going after the small uh earner they don't care as much for the ultra

wealthy because they've already got a mechanism in place for going after the ultra wealthy and more importantly as anybody who knows economics will tell you going after the ultra wealthy is a waste of time if you can go after a small groups in mass that's why they brought on what 80k irs agents they it's as simple as this it is easier to get one dollar from a million people than it is to get a million dollars from one person. You go to the wealthy guy and you say, you owe us a million dollars. And he says, no, I don't. And they say, yes, you do. And he says, I will see you in court.

You're going to spend $400,000 coming after me. Maybe you'll get the money. Or they send a bill automated from a computer to a million people saying you owe us 10 bucks. And they all just say, fuck it. It's easier just to pay it. And they do. Yeah. What do you pay?

You pay West Virginia? Is that? Well, we operate in a bunch of places okay but yeah yeah yeah i'm sure the state stuff that's the one thing for me west virginia has is reforming their taxes because they know they're fucked west virginia is a very dysfunctional state and it's time to fix things guys yeah maryland's also very dysfunctional um we're moving to florida i i gotta tell you like from pennsylvania moving to florida my wife's air force and it's like you don't even have to file right it's not like you file and it's like there's nothing local there's no state you literally just do nothing and high property tax though yeah but it is it is just to me it was just night and day you know to only have to file one with the feds. Yeah. And then the West Virginia bill is pretty hefty.

Yeah. But they're happy we're here. So my advice to West Virginia is stop the fucking weirdo drag kid shit. Otherwise, we pull our investment and we go to Texas or Florida. Florida's great. I do have a second part to my question. Get it. Quickly, Owen. We got to my question. Get it. Quickly, Owen.

We've got to wait today. Okay, so with that being said, they're keeping more of our money. What recourse do we have to basically cut the fund for the migrant crisis, the foreign wars? With the guests that you guys have had on in the past or that you guys are aware that's going on. What are some recourses that we have to like turn off the time with the government to stop funding all this crap that we don't want?

You're not you're not taxes. They're not using your taxes to fund that stuff. They create money in the money supply upon the agents of debt. They just snap their fingers when they raise the debt ceiling. They're quite literally saying, we will just fabricate that money. So when they're taking from you, it's after the fact, and it's to control

for inflation. If they don't take from you and they pump money into the supply, inflation goes up. That's all that happens. The real issue, and this is why I complain about it all the time, the real issue is the cunts and the cocksuckers in CBP who with smiles on their faces accept the blood money from the biden administration and the federal government yeah yep yeah well the argument gets framed a lot but oh there are tax

money is going towards these things and so maybe maybe that gets conflated a bit where people think that like literally my tax money is paying for these migrants and stuff. The way you just pointed out that, no, it's it's in New York. It is controlling after the fact. The states do not print money. So but they do receive federal grants. So it's a mixed bag. But the reality is we have a nation of amoral pieces of shit in law enforcement,

in federal agencies that don't care. And they won't care because when that cop takes money to facilitate human smuggling, he knows that he can go to any McDonald's and that money is fungible. Doesn't matter. Ain't no clerk at McDonald's going to deny him his cheeseburger. But think about a world in which this cop facilitates human smuggling with a smile on his face walks into burger king and he's like i'll get a uh give me let me get the uh the whopper meal and the guy goes no fuck you you're a human smuggler he goes

what you get the fuck out then he leaves then he goes to the mcdonald's across the street get the fuck out of your smuggler then he realized holy shit my money is no longer fungible i can buy nothing with it then they stop accepting it then they say i won't do this job because it means i can't buy a fucking cheeseburger but as long as we live in this massive mechanized industrialized world especially with kiosks oh boy you think it's bad now wait till it's all kiosks you're gonna have cops who will mercilessly when we get to the point where there's no more humans involved in the day-to-day uh living circumstances like you order food from a machine the machine makes it a police officer will right now if there's a

seven-year-old kid holding a teddy bear and a police chief says to his cop shoot that kid in the face the cop's going to be like what why what the fuck are you nuts mechanize everything and that cop's going to be wearing a fucking wristband or apple vision pro the apple vision is going to say terminate target threat level alpha and he's going to go you got it bang shoot it and kill it and then he's going to get money deposited to his account which we will he will then send to amazon to deliver by drone the milk he needs to eat and he never has to worry about getting canceled ever again however to be fair at that point society it will be a robot dog shooting the child so there won't even be a human to get paid things are gonna get weird anyway we do gotta get going here thanks dave keep it positive have a good one guys cheers

uh sinoski aka extreme retard i love you. Howdy, howdy. So, you know, I try to do these cold openings every night. Time I call in, it's going to invoke a memorable response. And you guys up to get a spicy game tonight with your communism conversation. Phil was almost singing. It was beautiful.

I think we have lyrics. So I found out today that I lost the game. Oh, you son of a bitch! Where'd you leave it? Did you put it? Which game? No, well, that's the game. If you hear the game,

if you think of the game, if someone says the game and you hear the game, you lose the game. That's how you lose the game. We just lost. Yeah. As soon as you think of the game, you lose the game, you motherfucker. I just thought of Baldur's Gate. So several thousand people just lost the game. Yeah lost yeah sorry as soon as you think of the game you lose the game you motherfucker i just thought of this game so several several thousand people just lost the game yeah actually that's true thank you a lot of people um so my actual question is in your segments tim today even your opener tonight you talked about leticia james threatening to seize the trump assets if he refuses to pay so while any of us paying attention see us it for what it is it's

just theft and bullshit um what are your actual opinions on whether or not they would then sell that property for what it's actually valued at do you think anyone would notice no they're gonna turn into migrant that ahead they're gonna turn into migrant housing yeah they've already they've already basically done it bill de blasio wanted to buy low-cost property to convert to public housing. He has stated that it was intentioned to do this. I think their move is, ultimately, if they win,

seize Trump buildings, maybe Fifth Avenue, the hotel of the UN, and maybe Columbus Circle, and then they convert it into public housing. Yeah. Value won't matter interesting i agree with that yeah so it's how it's how the city you know de blasio was like i he wanted to convert these these he wanted to buy these buildings pennies in the dollar convert them into public housing he couldn't do it Here's one way you do it. Claim a billion dollars of the buildings in New York

are worth 20 million and you get them for free and you turn them into migrant housing. Then you argue Trump owes you more money and when he's forced to pay you cash,

you use that to facilitate the migrant housing. And then they're laughing behind the scenes saying Donald Trump was going to build a wall, but in the end, he funded the migrant expansion.

Yeah, always something like that isn't it good hey senoski anything else to add to that man uh quiet part podcast check it out though i'm probably gonna get a lot of hate mail now for that one so you're definitely gonna get a lot of hate for that one all right yeah cheers man well i'm uh making up game called The Game, and when you think of it, you win. Sick. So we all just won my game. Count me in. There we go. You're a winner.

I prefer this game. Not a... Oh, No Town Anarchy. I thought it said nothing else. No Town Anarchy. How you doing? What's up, everybody? And if you think about the game,

but you acknowledge that the game happened, you don't lose. Now he got me before I could acknowledge. So I asked a question, and then somebody backed out on a question about abortion and what's happening with Alabama and their Supreme court. And they're like literally defining life down to like retroactively like embryos,

you know, that are frozen, like that's embryos you know that are frozen like that's life you know and and how do we define life and and this crazy world that we live in um where like motherfuckers were like you're a baby and you were born but you're not alive we kill you and then you know all this money that they make off of like aborted fetuses and stuff and most of these motherfuckers that uh vote for this crazy shit don't even realize who like margaret sanger is or like you know like how that all started and and the craziness of it. And it just ties into like, you got a Supreme Court justice that can't even define woman

and her fucking job is to like define shit. Not a biologist. I'm just, and this is for everybody. I love you all. And I would love to hear your thoughts on this subject. So the issue in Alabama is they ruled that frozen embryos are children for the purpose of this particular suit or whatever. But now people are saying, okay, well, they didn't issue a ruling on whether babies in the womb are. So what's the question?

Well, then the ultimate determination is life begins at conception. Where does life begin? Conception. That's done. For me, it's like when a cell divides motherfucker you know like well no you can't sell they can divide a cell but like you can't create that cell but cell division is after conception cell division is after conception the moment no i realize but they can't create the cell though you you know what i mean like okay you know if their definition is like they can divide a cell but they can't create that cell so what right do

they have to determine who's worthy of life or not you know it's different defining life and defining a human child are two different things well i mean if we're able to define it for um animals and you know this species is protected and this one's not but like we make money off of yeah stepping on a turtle leg is a felony because yeah i mean it's insane we can define this and that and i mean well do you have a more specific question sir well um you you know the the question is like um like okay so like where where where do we as a society have a right to define life and in my opinion it would be like conception you know conception you you know and like you have all this like craziness like well you know the women have the right shoes or whatever and then we have all this like uh you know um funding of like

people being able to just like do this crazy and then you have a state like uh alabama coming out and actually defining for a supreme court justice basically you know like what life is and now you have this bifurcation you know among states and the federal government you know just perpetuating the states and the federal government education you know the states and the federal government are bifurcated on like a million different issues abortion just being one of the most yeah and and and and and honestly coming from like mostly like a background of like being um pretty much pro abortion like i see this as like a losing issue for republicans except for the i mean like alabama's

kind of taken the uh they're taking the front, well, this is how we define life. And our Supreme Court justices can't even do that. Right. And maybe there's a reason for that. You know? Yeah. Yeah, maybe. All right on, man.

Well, anyway, yeah. Thank you guys for taking my question, but he ran a little bit absolutely thanks for calling in thanks man cheers peace take care man we we and yeah we had the alabama story lined up we didn't get to it it's been like there's not much there other than to say they did it you know human this is a human child a frozen embryo is a human child. Yep. And it is. All right. We got Conspiracy Ranch on the caboose. How are you? Hey, guys. Can you hear me?

Hi. Yes. Loud and clear. Perfect. Phil, thank God you're on. Cheers. All right. So I had a question, and Ian touched on it, so I'm going to go a little conspiratorial on my question.

So we were talking about bringing all these immigrants in and offering them citizenship to do military service, or now they're coming into different cities and being in Illinois and being granted the ability to be police officers and blah, blah, blah, blah. We're talking, and then Tim, you brought up all the housing and what they're going to do with all the low-income buildings and what they want to do. You're going to start housing all those people. Yeah, yeah. What if they're not building an army for us to go to Ukraine? What if they are building an army for the cities since the Republicans continuously keep saying, you're not going to beat right wingers, we have guns? Well, yeah, that was one of the principal predictions that when it comes time to civil war, they will go to the illegal immigrants and say, do you want to live here or not?

If you do, then you have to fight for it. And then the argument will be the moral question over the right, the rights of they'll say that voting is a human right. It doesn't matter if you're a citizen or not. That's an arbitrary distinction. And they will liken citizenship to being like they'll say undocumented is like being a slave. That's the argument they're going to make. Then there's going to be illegal immigrant uprisings and and they're going to call them undocumented uprisings they will make the the argument that documentation is slavery they will

make that the moral issue and then uh i mean in 50 years they want the history books to say that there were, you know, free, you know, the, the, the Neo Confederacy believed that people must have papers from the government to prove their human rights. And that was so wrong. And there will be people being like, can you believe they used to believe in like forced government documentation to get human rights? That's crazy. No, I get you. And I i'm i'm looking more along the lines of they are going to be acting as the french against the british because we've all quit because they forced the military out before they've sent everybody home we're not going to fight for you okay well now we have a full military force and we have the backing of federal government now

we have created our own civil war by letting them in. And we're essentially letting in our opposition force. I love how Democrats say stuff like losers in 1861 and y'all are going to lose again. And I'm like, guys, the Democrats were the slavers. You guys lost. What the fuck are you talking about? Southern Democrats. People forget.

Anyway, have a good night guys thanks so much hey thanks for calling in me hey cheers man great question concise and everything too wow we ended up even after all the communist screaming made it through and got done on time thanks for hanging out appreciate y'all having fun yeah i'm gonna need like three hours to do that communism conversation right we should have a real communist on here and then just go at it yeah there's a thing because communism four hours communists believe they have a right that that the ends justify the means so they have a right to lie to you to achieve their yeah get one of those guys on here and let's do why they're just live on everything exactly they demand i'm the steel man dude they don't love

communism don't get three hours and it's against the rules you cannot cut them off all right we're gonna wrap it up everybody thanks for hanging out we got a fun week tomorrow is going to be based as fuck should we say who's tomorrow? I think we should is there a risk of it not working out? I hope not but it's Kirk Cameron there you go

I'm so excited for Kirk Cameron it's gonna be awesome and we've been trying to book him for a really really long time it's gonna be a fun conversation. Hopefully he makes it, but I'm really excited. So thanks for hanging out, and we'll see you all tomorrow. Cheers.