Timcast IRL - Sunday Uncensored: Derrick Evans Members Only Podcast

Episode Date: January 28, 2024

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Starting point is 00:01:15 Now, enjoy the show. Wrong button. We got to change your oh yeah change your thing no no it's live already just just roll with it just just just fix it yeah because everyone's watching this now right hello everyone welcome the members only when the stream deck isn't changed properly and it pulls up the wrong set of uh video okay good to go't switch it back with the chat and everything we got can we switch it back profile wise no like this my steam my stream deck also didn't change either I don't understand how that what the hell dude right so let me just that oh that's it it didn't change yeah I don't know I'm trying to figure out why that why that did that see that's the correct It didn't change? Yeah, I'm trying to figure out why that
Starting point is 00:02:05 did that. See, that's the correct thing. Okay, great. Then I'll press... There we go. See? Problem fixed. Okay, so here's the story. Some 32-year-old woman smoked pot and then instantly just grabbed the knife and started screaming and just stabbed a guy a hundred...
Starting point is 00:02:23 How do you talk? guy a hundred times to death and then start stabbing herself. And she said that after smoking weed, she thought she was dead and that the only way to come back to life was to murder the other guy. She got no jail time. Cannabis induced psychosis. Yeah. You shouldn't get off for that.
Starting point is 00:02:42 Like you chose to get super fucked up and then you killed somebody. Wow. It's crazy. I am no longer in favor of legalized marijuana. I'm actually not either, but I was never really in favor of legalized marijuana. Well, question on this. Did they purchase this from a legalized place or was this something on the street that was laced with something?
Starting point is 00:03:01 I don't know. She was smoking with her friend. But so I want to clarify. I want to clarify. I want to clarify. I am still in favor of, like, heavily regulated circumstantial... I should probably clarify that. I don't think you should go to jail for pot. I think it should be heavily
Starting point is 00:03:15 regulated because of that reason. I just think we should have heavy weights on it to make it almost impossible to do. And I think you should go to jail for murder. Regardless of what the reason was. I agree with going to jail for murder. Yeah, regardless of what the reason was. I agree with going to jail for murder, especially if you stab someone a hundred times. I went to jail for protesting.
Starting point is 00:03:32 Marijuana is a deep state plot. Marijuana is a deep state plot to weaken and shatter the minds of people in this country and turn them into retards. I think that's a big part of it. When you walk around also in American cities where weed is legal,
Starting point is 00:03:48 it's really disgusting and gross. Everyone's just walking around getting stoned. Pooping in the streets of San Francisco. Pooping. I saw, when I lived in Brooklyn, I looked out my window and I saw people pooping on my car. Goodness. On your car? On my car, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:04 And then you're like i'm moving to west virginia no it was years before before i moved to west virginia i mean birds do that in west virginia i've never known a human being to climb right no i mean what i find interesting about the conversations around marijuana is i remember it all started with medical like if you're going through chemo you should be able to smoke weed because it helps the nausea or like whatever else and i can understand like empathy for me i'm one of the things that disturbs me most that it's also regularly linked to um like the first appearance of psychological disorders like schizophrenia or whatever else and so you don't know what your risk
Starting point is 00:04:38 factors are until you just start using weed and like there's there's or like any kind of drug and so it's hard because i can recognize that for us to study the effects of marijuana in some capacity at least the way our government works right now it has to be acknowledged as something that it has to be regulated in some way and a permitted in some capacity for study because that's the only way we get answers about it on the other hand being like it's recreational and it could potentially be totally fine for you but also potentially really ruin your life it seems weird that we're sort of like rolling out recreational i think it was somebody can agree with removing it from the schedule one i think i don't know
Starting point is 00:05:16 anyone who says no it needs to stay in schedule one like i don't know anyone who's who's beating that drum there's a there's a um if i may there's a huge difference between weed now and post-legalization and the weed that used to be available, just street weed. So if you perhaps were buying things like dime bags in the 90s, you would get seeds. There'd be seeds in there. There'd be stems. It would not be like heavy duty potent weed. And I remember talking to my cousin years and years later, like after, you know, weeds leak and he still smokes a lot of weed and whatever.
Starting point is 00:05:54 And it's like really, it's really strong. It's way stronger than it used to be. My mom told me about that too. She used to smoke weed in the 60s or whatever. And she used to tell me about taking mescaline to smoke weed in the 60s or whatever and she used to tell me about drop taking mescaline and like going to the park with her friends mom those people took like 500 doses of lsd like a bowl though so like let's be let's be very clear about the weed is way stronger now yeah then it used to be 500 doses of lsd is well it's not stronger than 500 doses of
Starting point is 00:06:22 lsd but you wouldn't take 500 doses of lsd at once people back then did no no that's ridiculous bowls yeah you can like what blotter like little blotter no no not like i'm not talking about that i'm talking about this is for people in the early days of liquid lsd like what would be the the form yeah like a little bowl i'll show you some videos of it in a little bit if you want to. Have you guys seen this stuff about Charlotte's Web, the strain of weed for Charlotte's Web? So it's named after this little girl named Charlotte, and what they did is they bred this cannabis to be very low in THC
Starting point is 00:06:54 and high in something else. Remember what it is? It combats seizures. Oh, that's right. Yeah, this little girl was having massive seizures, and the parents didn't know what else to do. So they go to this guy and say, hey, we want to give this to our little girl. And at first he was like, no.
Starting point is 00:07:08 And finally the mom was like, just come spend a day with us and see this. And he saw what the family was going through, so he said, okay. And then it obviously didn't cure her completely, but it was a drastic change in that. And so they started breeding this cannabis specifically to be low in THC and high in the other stuff for that. And so that's why it's like I don't know how anyone could argue for it i know no one here is but to stay on schedule one and to where there's definitely medicinal benefits to this in some aspect or i'll clarify i think it should be legal because uh but heavily regulated and the issue with legality is that it created hyper potent psycho strains it used to be like like exactly what
Starting point is 00:07:45 you're saying yeah even the 90s my friends have told me the same thing it's gone nuts because now oh it's legal now they're breeding and making the craziest shit imaginable and you're getting this super ultra dense drug yeah how you regulate it it's got to be something about thc levels things like that and uh it's tough. But I think it should be heavily discouraged. I don't think people should smoke. And I think it's funny that people try to make the argument that it's, you're fine. It's, you know, whatever. And like, dude, the people I know who are potheads are obviously potheads.
Starting point is 00:08:20 And they are not high-functioning people. They didn't have to tell you that they were a pothead. That's right. You kind of just figured it out. Yeah, I think it can have a really negative effect. And again, if, because I generally like, you know, natural medicine or whatever else, there's an instinct to be like,
Starting point is 00:08:34 well, if this could benefit you, how do we cultivate it? So your story about Triloxibub, that's like a perfect example. But people who I know who smoked early and often, their lives and personalities change because of it. I know people say it's not addictive, but anything could be habit forming. And I think that that is something that we really have to guard against, especially in a society of young people who feel consistently report feeling uninspired and feeling hopeless, feeling like the world is against them. The environment's getting too hot.
Starting point is 00:09:00 They're never going to be able to get a house like this. I must just retreat into myself and sort of detach from the world because it's all going down the drain is is real enough we don't need to add anything else to discourage people from being ambitious and from taking care of themselves and going out let's clarify too i'm talking about recreational use yeah yeah people are saying like i have pain and stuff like no no that's fine that's fine and i think like it's in some ways you know of course there are times i want to compare to alcohol like there are people who can handle alcohol there are people who cannot there are ways to drink responsibly there are ways to be uh reckless and put other people in danger and i think that could be true too of marijuana but it's just the
Starting point is 00:09:38 fact that with marijuana we live in this weird thing where it's it's recreational in some places but also we are not totally aware of all the long terms of fact okay this guy's got potato here he says thank god tim sells coffee shitting on vaping now weed i have absolutely zero issue with issues with vaping i don't care if you vape go vape in fact go smoke go smoke a cigar go smoke marijuana i think vaping is bad for you i think smoking cigarettes is bad for you. I think smoking cigarettes is bad for you. I think cigars are bad for your gums and your teeth. I think marijuana is bad for you, but whatever, go do it.
Starting point is 00:10:09 I think marijuana should be regulated because it is a highly potent drug and there are regulations even on coffee. We saw Panera get sued into oblivion. Yeah. But my point about vaping is not the vape. It's assholes.
Starting point is 00:10:25 Like if you got in my car and I'm driving and you went and then spat on the back of my chair, I'd be like, what the fuck, dude? Yeah, what the fuck indeed. We're driving in a car down the highway.
Starting point is 00:10:36 We're going to get lunch. The windows are rolled up and then all of a sudden the whole car fills with vape and I was like, who the fuck just did that? And they're like, oh, my bad.
Starting point is 00:10:44 I'm like, are you joking, dude? Roll down your window. I don't care that you're vaping, just blow the fuck out the window. That's what I'm talking about. Well, not only that, and to your point, I mean, we were talking a second ago. I mean, it's your insurance here. And it's very well stated in the email that I received before coming here. There's signs out there to not vape here on the property. And that's not even your rule. That's the insurance rule regardless. But even if it was, your rule wouldn't matter. And so to then blatantly disrespect that, I think, is a whole other thing.
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Starting point is 00:12:06 operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. ...other level. It's not, like, to your point, it's not just the vaping. It's that we got, that's the only rule
Starting point is 00:12:14 I was actually given when I was coming on the show was don't smoke or vape. Well, this is like, I think just generally the idea of common courtesy and being like,
Starting point is 00:12:22 if someone has a rule about their house, right? Like, if I'm like, you have to take your shoes off before you come into my house i hate that rule but i do abide by it but if it's someone else you know why because i'm sorry go ahead oh i was gonna say like i personally get frustrated when people just like leave trash in my car you know like if you have put it down not a big deal but if you just continuously always leave trash in my car that feels disrespectful to me, right? Like you were ultimately saying, I have to clean up after you. I think that there are things that people do that, you know, they're like, oh, it's not that big a deal.
Starting point is 00:12:52 Because they don't think about the consequences or basically what they're communicating to the other person. You want to talk about the shoes off rule? I think everyone can be more courteous. They can be part of your outfit for sure. But if you felt like, I always have to clean this floor and whatever else, i'm not gonna freak out at you you know maybe i'll just suggest we hang out outside your home if you live in a city though and you walk around with your shoes inside your house it's disgusting you know what i mean for sure yeah that's pretty or like people have the like no shoes on the bedroom like why it would be annoying if someone was like oh okay
Starting point is 00:13:21 but i'm just gonna make an exception for myself to this rule. Like, why? This is what we've had people do. There's big signs on the door. No smoking, no vaping. On the inside, the same thing. And then literally they try to hide their vape, go in the bathroom, and I'm just ready to be like, get the fuck out of my house. Yeah. Get the fuck out, you fucking asshole.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Like, bro, we will give you an escort i will carry you you can vape i don't care but the fact that you're trying to hide it after we asked you not to do it like i don't care if it's vaping i don't care if it's your shoes i don't care if you're taking a dump whatever we told you not to do it like it's just don't well and no one who smokes a cigarette who's been on the show has just sat in here and would have... Started smoking a cigarette. Why is it that with vaping, you feel like it's okay, but you wouldn't sit in here? Because they can hide it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:09 They can hide it, except we see the smoke, right? You used to think that with cigarettes. I mean, I used to... When you go on planes in the 80s, people would be smoking. The back was the smoking section. And you'd end up sitting there. Which seems like a weirdly, obviously, non-effective thing. It was terrible. I remember that. I remember going to restaurants, smoking or not. was the smoking section and you'd end up like sitting there obviously like not effective thing it was terrible i remember when a restaurant smoking or not and you said rabbi's side of
Starting point is 00:14:30 there's like an imaginary wall apparently it's supposed to and it didn't well i fucking hate it dude i always was in the smoking section with my parents because they my my dad and stepmom they smoked and so wherever we were we were in the smoking section and like it wasn't until years later that i realized oh when you hang out with a lot of smokers uh your hair starts to smell really bad so the hollywood casino it's an all it's basically all smoking except for the poker room it's crazy and it's funny how everyone hates it everyone yeah very few people like and want smoking but a very small amount of people like smoking so it's funny when you're in the poker room, the moment someone smells smoke, everyone's
Starting point is 00:15:08 like, what the fuck? What the fuck? Because the poker room is no smoking and the slots next to it are no smoking. And they'll actually call security and be like, get that guy out of here. The rest of the casino, you'll be sitting down playing like a table. You can play blackjack or something. Someone will sit down. Oh, it's the worst thing ever.
Starting point is 00:15:24 They'll sit down right next to you and they'll light up a cigarette just hold it right next to you and they're like fuck off we're allowed to do it and i'm just like i'll leave but that's like a dick move back when they were banning smoking in public places back in like chicago i was pro smoking in businesses i said if a business wants smoking that's their business don't tell them they can't have it that makes no sense and i'm like if I go to a restaurant, everybody's smoking inside. I'll leave. Yeah. I got no beef.
Starting point is 00:15:48 You guys like it. You want to be here. Who the fuck am I to come here and tell you not to do it? Agreed. If I'm sitting down at a restaurant at the bar eating a cheeseburger and you show up, show up, sit down next to me and then light a cigarette next to me, you're a dick. Agreed. That's it.
Starting point is 00:16:00 So, you know, that's my, that's my thing. Now, my thing is I love vape. Vape is awesome. You guys go vape, get your vapes, get you whatever you want. Have vape parties. Now, my thing is, I love vape. Vape is awesome. You guys go vape. Get your vapes. Get you whatever you want. Have vape parties. That's cool, man.
Starting point is 00:16:09 You do you. You ride your motorcycles while vaping. But when you come to this place and we say, hey, you can't vape inside. And then you go, fuck you. I'm going to do it anyway. I'm going to kick you out. Well, it's rude if somebody asks you not to. I like those restaurants, though, or bars or whatever that are smoking.
Starting point is 00:16:26 And it's like you go in and everybody's smoking. There's this bar in New York that's like that. And you go in and everyone's having a cigar and drinking a scotch. And, you know. Cigar bars can be really cool. You don't want to hang out there all night necessarily, but I kind of like it. If you know what you're going for, then go for it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:40 You know, it's not like eating a cheeseburger, though. It was funny when they started banning smoking in public places in arizona there was a bar that had cut out something like a one one square foot hole in their ceiling because that made it legally outside it was something like that and a bunch of places were doing things like that they would create like indoor outdoor and they'd be like okay what's the legal requirement for outdoor and it's like well i guess a roof has to be this and they're like okay i do love the creativeness of people when the government does start infringing on people in whatever aspect it is and people get creative
Starting point is 00:17:17 and find loopholes and ways around it which is which is well in new hampshire you still don't have to wear a motorcycle helmet when you're on your motorcycle. Oh, I fucking hate all these laws. Yeah. Seatbelt laws. I was driving with my son and he was like, whoa, that person has no helmet on and they're going 80. You don't have to wear a helmet in Kentucky. So I live around the border and people stop, get off their motorcycle, put their helmet on and then go. You know why we got seatbelt laws?
Starting point is 00:17:41 Yeah. Insurance companies lobby it because it does reduce physical body damage in car accidents, which means insurance companies were looking at their bottom line and they were like, if everybody wore a seatbelt, we would save 17% on our payouts. Okay, let's make it illegal to not have a seatbelt on so that we can make more money. No, I thought it was because the insurance companies
Starting point is 00:18:02 cared about us deeply. They were deeply worried about my personal safety. I thought it was the federal government companies cared about us deeply. They were deeply worried about my personal safety. I thought it was the federal government that cared about us deeply. I love those. They do. You ever see those t-shirts that have fake seatbelts on them? Those are great. That's hilarious. I remember during the whole COVID stuff, I had to
Starting point is 00:18:18 wear a mask on airplanes and such. But you didn't have to if you were eating something. So I found that loophole and the whole way to Florida, I ate a pretzel. I just nibbled on it. We had these helmets this guy made. I forgot what they were called, but they were like space helmets with air filters in them.
Starting point is 00:18:35 And it was advertised as not having to wear a mask and being on a plane and wearing this plastic dome helmet with a filter. The only problem is they weren't a lot on airplanes. That's crazy. So I actually ordered some because I thought they were funny. And I used them when gardening because it would give me fresh air and the bugs wouldn't get in my face. Oh, clever.
Starting point is 00:18:55 That was the best use case for it, honestly. I'd love to see what your neighbors thought of you out there. We don't have neighbors. We live in the middle of nowhere. That's true. So I'm out in the garden and I'm like grabbing tomatoes and shit. Or I was like cleaning something or watering something and the flies are everywhere and they're just you go out there without it and they're in your eyes you're like god every time they are chickens too with
Starting point is 00:19:13 these space helmets but anyway we were going to travel and i was like oh let's use the space helmets and then i checked the websites and they're like these are banned these these are they're not masks there's a they're like there's a federal mandate as to what a mask is. That's not a mask. So you actually couldn't even use them. They were requiring masks in schools at the time. And I found these masks that were basically mesh. They looked like masks. But if you got up close, they were just basically not at all.
Starting point is 00:19:38 It was just very porous. And my son was having so much trouble going to school with the mask. And they were everywhere. It was all over. It couldn't stay on. He couldn't see. It ended up in his eyes, and I got him these mesh ones, and no one ever figured it out.
Starting point is 00:19:51 That's awesome. But gators were not allowed. Gators? Gators were not allowed. Yeah, that wasn't allowed, even though that's stupid. Yeah. I thought the rules for restaurants were the weirdest thing during COVID, because especially in New York, they'd be like,
Starting point is 00:20:03 oh, we're outdoor, but now it's cold, so we'll build some walls now put a heater and it's like you're just making brooms outdoors no that you had to wear a mask when you all the way to sit down and after you sat down it was safe to take and there was a there's a sushi restaurant in frederick maryland where i was standing literally five feet from the table where and they were put the mask on so i'm at the door five feet is for me as a table and i'm like i would like to sit down you got to put a mask on and i was like no one else here is wearing a mask and they're like yeah they're eating and i'm like that person's not eating this well they're sitting down to eat so they can take the mask off and i was like i'll i'll
Starting point is 00:20:36 i'll i'll go low right now and they they said no and in the time that it took them to have this conversation with you you could have just sat down and been without the mask like they they wanted to take a mask, put it on, and literally, and once I can take it off and throw it in the garbage. I'm like, what the fuck is wrong with you retards? It's so weird. It's because they care. It's because they care. It's true.
Starting point is 00:20:56 That's the scary part about the whole shutdown stuff. At first, it was like, you got to do these mandates, and you got to take all these shots or whatever to save yourself. And then it became, well, now you got to do it to and you got to take all these shots or whatever to save yourself. And then it became, well, now you got to do it to save your grandmother and your neighbor. And if you don't do that, you're a terrible person. Meanwhile, Andrew Cuomo killed all the grandmas. He did. He did.
Starting point is 00:21:14 And so did Rachel Levine in Pennsylvania, who is now- It was different though. Yeah, it was different because for Rachel Levine, it was his mom who was in the- Which he was fine with. And he took his mom out and then imposed the thing that said, you know, you have to take everybody back after they've been in the hospital so they all die. And for that and for being trans, Rachel Levine has a Biden administration appointment in HHS.
Starting point is 00:21:40 Yeah. What about murder hornets? Did everybody just forget about the murder hornets? Murder hornets? I forgot about that. Real quick, I think the sushi place went out of business. They were refusing to have customers because they wouldn't wear masks.
Starting point is 00:21:55 You would notice. Is West Virginia going to get hit with the Cicada Blitz? We are. I'm really excited. I can't wait. It's like a 200-year Cicada event. 17. Oh, you're talking about the two things at the same time? The two things at the same time. I think it's like, yeah, coming at the same time.
Starting point is 00:22:09 The last time they did it, it was, I'll never, I mean, I remember we were out with tennis rackets. Yeah. You were out with tennis rackets. Yeah, that's what we was doing. I remember my other sock was just covered in them. We should go to Callers. Gross.
Starting point is 00:22:21 We should. Indeed. It was gross. So before I say anything, before I go to the Callers, do you remember the guy that called in yesterday? it was gross uh so before uh before i say anything before i go to the callers uh do you remember the guy that we could that called in yesterday or was the day before i think it was yesterday he was talking about uh that story that he uncovered uh i can't remember his name it was like jimmy something uh he was banned off x apparently um if anyone could get me his name i forget what his name was jimmy trimmer jimmy trimmer the guy you told to get in
Starting point is 00:22:43 touch with because he was breaking that story um but yeah i guess he got banned on x for posting stuff he was posting yeah anyways cockroach stomping in my mom's apartment on the um on the west side in new york yeah it was very naturey we'd go down to the laundry room be a bunch of cockroaches sounds like good toms we'd stomp him joseph trimmer that was his name anyways uh three if by treachery you are live hey can you guys hear me
Starting point is 00:23:12 all right um thanks for taking the call uh you know really enjoy listening to you guys pretty much every night so um you mentioned at the start of the show i think tim was mentioning it that the elites or the powers that be or the the vase that we like to refer to them, they're really losing narrative control on like a variety of big issues. You can think of Epstein or vaccines or election integrity or globalism. And it's if you look at this loss of narrative control it's
Starting point is 00:23:45 happening faster than ever and my question is when did this start like when did the seeds of this narrative control when were they planted when did it really start in earnest um did it happen before trump something like the tea party revolution did it happen during trump's candidacy and then his presidency or did it happen really after the stolen election right because i think uh you know it people are really getting off their off their behinds right now so i'm saying when when when when did the narrative control start is that the question when did the narrative when when did the the loss of the narrative control happen right so when at what point did we start saying and in mass people start saying hey no we're not we're
Starting point is 00:24:32 not buying this anymore we're not buying what you guys have to sell i feel like trump was the big awakening call i mean that's definitely been what i can see in my lifetime, right? And I think Trump is the leader of a lot of ideas that were bubbling for a long time. So I think probably someone else who was older than me might have a different point. It's the internet. And it starts with people like Alex Jones and a lot of these alternative media channels that found a way to get a message out through the internet. And those were the seeds. The seeds of Alex Jones eventually turned
Starting point is 00:25:06 into the presidency of Donald Trump. Interesting. Got it. Do you think it's, and I had a second part to the question, which was, is it, you know, and you mentioned it there, it's not necessarily with Trump, it's, it's, it was before that. Do you think it's sustainable, right?
Starting point is 00:25:23 Because I worry about the future of the country and obviously if trump was the cause then when the candidate goes away does this you know does kind of this peeling back of the trump is the result trump is the result right so you you can't you can't erase the memories of an entire generation yeah that's why that's why when you know when you look at gen z and all their weird woke bullshit, there's no curing these people. This is what they are. They're programmed. Got it.
Starting point is 00:25:55 Yeah. I appreciate the answers. Civil War, because Gen Z has a weird crackpot one-third of their generation, which is a bunch of retards. And most of them are normal, and then a lot of them are based. But they're not going to stop having these views. And so there is going to be a bifurcation in American culture to an extreme degree that results in far-left violence. But yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:19 I never really thought about that question before, though, until just now. And I think all excellent excellent points and i would maybe even argue it started with social media in terms of people having a voice and doing that and that's why they started censoring people you guys remember in the early days of social media there was no censorship if you had a if you had 3 000 followers 3 000 people saw your stuff or however many they shared and everything and so that they started the censorship because i feel like we were getting our our alternative views out there if you will i think it was mostly just uh fear of advertisers there was there were things that were deemed socially acceptable and things that weren't
Starting point is 00:26:53 and they were looking at what generated the most uh algorithmic boost which included white nationalism and intersectional feminism but white nationalism generates fear from advertisers so they all opted to go woke at the same time in websites across the all countries saw massive explosion in woke concepts racism privilege in all countries and it was because it was socially acceptable advertisers would pay for it and it generated rage there you go yeah all right well thanks for calling in buddy cheers mate thank you guys of course course. All right. Uh,
Starting point is 00:27:26 Bush doctor, what's mine? How are you doing? Nope. He's still muted. Oh, didn't I mute? Oh,
Starting point is 00:27:35 there you go. Oh, there you go. Sorry about that. I thought I clicked it. Hey, what happened? Hey,
Starting point is 00:27:42 thanks for taking my question. Uh, this is actually a mashup question from myself and Bree Hawk for the entire panel. She had to go to bed, so we combined our questions. Right on. So you touched on the subject a little bit earlier in the show. Tim has discussed den internet theory before. We got proof of big tech collusion during the 2020 campaign from the Twitter files.
Starting point is 00:28:03 Long history of intelligence agencies destabilizing foreign governments using social media sock puppets. It seems to be ramping up to a level that we couldn't have even imagined with the swarm of AI-driven propaganda bots that we're already seeing in 2024. So here's a question. It seems that the average American is tragically unaware of social media engineering, both in elections and overall public opinion. What can we possibly do to drag these bad actors who are so much more well-funded and better organized into the light for John Q. Public to see what's really going on? I mean, how do we sign up to sign up? We're doing it, though, like the narrative control is breaking. It's not working anymore. I don't know what else to say other than keep on keeping on.
Starting point is 00:28:50 So posting on social media, sharing stories, the human culture has broken their narrative machine and they're in free fall. I mean, do you think we're going to be able to keep up with the fact that they're now using AI to drive their narratives? The AI thing is not an issue of any one person. AI is an apocalyptic scenario for everybody. But the fact that Elon Musk bought Twitter and turned it into X, I'm not concerned about narrative control. AI is not about narrative control. AI is that no one will be able to do anything. Everyone will be paralyzed.
Starting point is 00:29:24 Maybe that's a good thing, to be honest. If everything is fake, then there's no narrative control and there's no machine. And it's just the Internet is dead. And you'll have to go outside and talk with your neighbors. The horror of talking with your neighbors. Yeah. Well, the problem with the Internet. I totally agree.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Yeah. Go ahead. Sorry. No, I didn't mean to interrupt. I mean, I'm with you on the fact that civil war is sadly inevitable. I agree that we can't reach most of these people who are already programmed. But, you know, I want to pull, like, what we can do to reach out to women more to bring them over and sort of those people who can be deprogrammed. So I don't know, Libby, if you want to follow up with that and how, like, from the women's perspective of how we're seeing. Bring women over?
Starting point is 00:30:18 I mean, this is going to sound sexist, but basically marry them and have families with them and then they will be conservative or they'll be a lot closer to conservative than they would be as single weed smoking, vaping, masturbating, late sleeping, whatever.
Starting point is 00:30:41 Chelsea Handler inspired women. Exactly. But that's the way to do it. you know how you become conservatives you you grow the fuck up so all these women need to grow up just like so many of these men do and put down the put down the bong put down the knives put down the bong yeah that's what I would say. Yeah. I think it would be, it's going to be funny when there's like this wave of women
Starting point is 00:31:08 who discover like trad wife living and then we've already seen some of them where they're like, I was told to be a feminist and it sucked.
Starting point is 00:31:16 What the fuck? I want to be a wife and like have kids and have my husband work and wow, that sounds so amazing. It's going to be funny when that's just
Starting point is 00:31:23 the dominant Instagram trend. I think there is a huge movement, especially on social media. There are a lot of, you know, homemaker kind of content creators who talk about the fact that the labor they do at home is valuable, not only emotionally, psychologically, but also, you know, if you have to pay to put your kid in daycare, that's an expense, right? I mean, I had a coworker at a previous job who this was the conversation, right? Like, well, basically my job covers all of daycare for our one kid, plus a little bit extra. So if we have a second kid, it's not going to cover that. It's actually going to be more expensive. At some point, all of the things that women do in the domestic space,
Starting point is 00:32:00 like homemaking, balancing budgets, grocery shopping,ving whatever that's actually valuable and should be treated that way and there was a time i mean remember that we had the bureau of home economics when that was the case and i think women are waking back up to the fact that they have inherent value and they don't have to seek it through corporate affirmations and a paycheck if they're able to swing that not all families can have a wife well and that the lifestyle is worthwhile it's a worthwhile lifestyle i had had such a, I had a different upbringing. I had a stepmom who was basically wanted to be a stay at home mom. She wanted to have kids.
Starting point is 00:32:32 She was unable to have children. And so there was me and there was my brother who was adopted. And then I had my mom who was like very successful, you know, corporate attorney, high powered, lived in New York, you know corporate attorney high-powered lived in New York you know and I grew up living with my dad and my stepmom until I moved in with my mom later and her like whole separate family new family and stuff because because that's the 20th century that's what we got um but they had very they both thought that they were they both felt that they were feminist to a large degree. And my stepmom was constantly infuriated at how the homemaker's work was undervalued and was looked down upon. And my mom was always kind of like, I don't know how to cook and I would never stay home. And, you know, I eat out at late kitchens and whatever else and it was a it was very interesting to see um as a young woman as
Starting point is 00:33:26 growing up as a kid knowing how much i valued my stepmom being home with me um and taking care of me and always making a birthday cake on my birthday which um was in the early it was like early in the school year before you really got to make friends and stuff because I was always switching schools, whatever. But it was so important to me that she was there. Yeah. She was there to tell me to do my homework and make sure that I was taken care of and make sure that there was dinner. And treat you like a priority, right? Treat me like a priority.
Starting point is 00:33:58 And I'd go to my mom's and it was like, go to summer camp. I'm going to work, this and that. You were an inconvenience. It was very different. And I know my mom loves me. I'm going to work, this and that. You were an inconvenience. It was very different. And I know my mom loves me, but. We should get to the next car. Sorry. Indeed.
Starting point is 00:34:10 Thanks again. Yeah. I just want to give a quick shout out to my wife, who is that awesome TradCon lady. I don't even know where the silverware is in my house. So right on. Hell yeah, brother. That's a very manly thing to say say i don't know where the silverware is i remember a real bushman that's cool go ahead i'm sorry no no that's that's all i'm saying
Starting point is 00:34:31 uh okay let's start the manliest thing you can say is i have no idea where my washing machine is i couldn't make a sandwich if my life depended on it i mean that's kind of pathetic though yes we really have created a toxic culture though to where women don't they feel like they have to be independent and to the point of like they i don't need a man you know and well there's being independent and then there's i don't need a man they're not the same thing and i'll just say as as a for me i don't think there's anything more valuable than a woman who is motherly and wants to to do that and people forget, they see her this thing, I don't need a man, I don't want to submit to a man or whatever, but they forget the other side of that is a good man who has a wife like that.
Starting point is 00:35:12 They are putting her on a pedestal and treating her the way that she needs to be treated. I got to give a warning to Vlasic, okay? The pickles? They need to be lobbying right now for masculinity because if it really does become an I don't need no man world, Vlasic goes out of business overnight. Pickle industry is starting because women can't open them.
Starting point is 00:35:33 I do ask my 13 year old son to open jars. That is true. Women are going to be like, I don't need no man and they're going to sit there trying to open the pickle jar and then go, I didn't want pickles anyway. Then they're going to be anti-pickle. And they'll never be pregnant. Every feminist
Starting point is 00:35:50 knows that pickle jars were made by men to uphold the patriarchy. It's true. Let's grab this next caller. Oppressive jars, indeed. Liam the Censor. Hello, my brother's name is Liam. How are you? I'm well. Good to be back on the show. I kind of wish Phil was is Liam. How are you? I'm well.
Starting point is 00:36:05 Good to be back on the show. I kind of wish Phil was here so I could throw the Christian nationalist thing in, but we'll get there when we get there. So I have a question for Derek Evans. So I read on your website, among the issues that you advocate for, you want to strengthen our NATO alliances and also combat chinese aggression infiltration um so my question is why should we continue to support nato something
Starting point is 00:36:33 that in my opinion for what little that's worth is obsolete at this point when we could instead withdraw funding from ukraine and seek to mend relations with russia who honestly would probably serve as a better check against China. Well, first of all, I'm glad you brought that up. And honestly, I haven't looked at that in a really long time. And I think we need to update that because I agree with you. I think we do need to. And as far as China, man, we've got to.
Starting point is 00:36:56 We have China right now buying land in our country. I don't think they should be allowed to buy land. I think we need to get ahead of them attempting to own natural resources. So they should be owning coal or oil or natural gas. And it's not just China for that matter. No foreign country should be allowed to own any sort of land or any natural resource in America. It's a matter of national security. And I think that we need to do this at the federal level and take this land back from China or any other country for that matter, who's purchasing land in our country.
Starting point is 00:37:25 Yeah, I think you're right. In the 80s, it was a big deal that Japanese were buying stuff in New York. And everyone was like, no, you can't do that. And now we're just letting China buy up like swaths and swaths of land. You don't want to be racist. Of course, they want to buy it for totally benign reasons. And you're just crushing their ability to have the American dream. You realize that.
Starting point is 00:37:42 It's just kind of anti-Sino. Right. You realize the Roosevelt Hotel where Nework is housing so many migrants actually uh the city of new york is leasing that from the pakistani pakistani government or maybe pakistani airlines which is probably backed by the government but anyway we're leasing the roosevelt hotel to house migrants in from pakistan well and people are not really discussing the farm issue either. So, I mean, unfortunately, I don't really agree with the GMOs and all this stuff. But, I mean, the seeds are technology at this point.
Starting point is 00:38:15 And China is buying up farmland and buying up food infrastructure and technology. I don't like it. I don't either. But the fact that China is doing it should be another concern for us as Americans. Why are we letting? I would love to know why we're allowing this to happen. Once again, why are we sending money to Ukraine, is the gentleman who just called and said. Why did we collapse our own border?
Starting point is 00:38:33 Yeah, we shouldn't be sending any. I'm America first, 100%. And so I think that Americans are charitable people. We're a Christian nation, charitable people. The greatest grift and scam of all time is Zelensky, as far as I'm concerned. But if they wanted to start a GoFundMe account, a lot of these bleeding heart leftists could donate their own personal money to this if they wanted to do so. And I would support their freedom to do that. But don't steal my money and then send it to another country when we have our own people who are hurting. We have roads and bridges and
Starting point is 00:39:03 infrastructure that's falling apart, our own borders being are hurting around we have roads and bridges and infrastructure has fallen apart our own borders being invaded and we're over here we have homeless veterans sleeping on the streets we have people who are struggling in this country we're sending money to other countries it's absolutely despicable yep it is 100 i don't know why we have even let people buy so much property in new york for instance libya like they own all these buildings and then lease them back out to new yorkers and a lot of times just empty buildings owned by one saudi prince and there's like one person who's in the bottom is a tenant and it's really just there to like make sure that it like legally within the rules of being a residential building it's insane because it's made new york completely unaffordable you can't live in the cities anymore at all anyways just anyways and uh it's it's a travesty
Starting point is 00:39:40 like this doesn't happen other countries like another not the same degree it's only happening in america really in london as well it happens in london too we'll go to london and buy these it's a travesty. Like this doesn't happen in other countries. Like not to the same degree. It's only happening in America really. I mean, in London as well. It happens in London too. We'll go to London and buy these places and don't live in them. It's just,
Starting point is 00:39:49 I don't understand it. It's like, it's like, it's like the new way of invading. It's a new way of colonizing, if you will.
Starting point is 00:39:55 Well, it is. I mean, what if, what if they, I mean, as of right now, they technically could,
Starting point is 00:39:58 what if they bought the entire state of West Virginia? China did. Would you sell it to them? No, I mean, I wouldn't sell them anything.
Starting point is 00:40:04 I'm just saying, I'm just saying like, you know what I mean? Like for instance, or an entire to them? No, I mean, I wouldn't sell them anything. I'm just saying. I hope not, man. I'm just saying, for instance, or an entire county or an entire, I mean, what would happen? I mean, we're letting these people sit here and own land in our country. And this is, I mean, it's honestly mind-blowing that we're even having this conversation right now. I mean, it's really crazy we're having a conversation. I mean, to your point point instead of them invading us They're just purchasing it
Starting point is 00:40:26 Yeah that's what they're doing in Africa too They're buying all these different places Especially in South Africa They're building basically like a classic Chinese walk up And it doesn't fit into the architecture It doesn't sit in the same place It's a completely different thing It's just everyone in Africa
Starting point is 00:40:41 The continent of Africa can agree like hey The Chinese are here suddenly and they're all they're just building i mean it's more cost effective wars are expensive yeah you just go there and buy the land right it's just that built road initiative you know just make a make uh friendships as opposed to well and that comes back to the other thing is we got to start bringing back our own manufacturing here in this country we're so dependent i mean if if for some reason we were to get into a war with china do you think that they would see how they're going to make stuff and send it to us? Of course not. And so this is a bigger issue. And that's one of the good things that came out of COVID was kind of showing the supply chain issues that we're dealing with right now and how we're dependent on our enemies for so many different basic ways of life in our country. Yeah. Anything else to add to that?
Starting point is 00:41:26 Liam? No, I appreciate you all taking my call. Real quick, I just want to shout out College Republicans at Marshall. I am the chair. Of Marshall at West Virginia. Marshall University, yes. Yep.
Starting point is 00:41:40 Yeah, so if you guys ever want to come down, host any events, feel free to reach out to me. I try to be as much of an open door as I can. Liam, man, I don't know if you follow me on social media or send me a DM or something or fill out the thing on our website and we'll reach out to you, man. I'm right there in your backyard just 30 minutes or so from Marshall and would love to come down and chat sometime. And you're an alum, right? Absolutely, for sure. Yeah, go Herd, man.
Starting point is 00:42:00 We are Marshall. Thank you so much. Right on. Thanks for calling in. All right, cheers. Let us talk to Rocket Gamer. go hard man we are marshall thank you so much right on thanks for calling in all right cheers uh let us talk to rocket gamer how are you today i'm doing pretty well thanks for uh taking my call i'm a first time caller and i've been consistently listening to you guys since the who is they though incident nice nice i was watching that last night yeah i had to watch last night i don't know why i was
Starting point is 00:42:25 watching again but great moment anyways yes uh so my question is you know according to the recent polls we've been all talking about uh gen z males are becoming uh conservative at a rapid rate comparatively with previous history but the question i have is do you think that uh the male preference for playing video games especially during their developmental period around 2010 uh playing games like multiplayer shooters mobas mmos and other multiplayer games uh isolated males in their own communities and environments that was not politically correct and somewhat merit meritocratic because you know i have to be good at playing video games and that's what's contributing to
Starting point is 00:43:08 the political shifts we're seeing, uh, as you know, modern woke leftist culture is completely against, you know, the older games we've been playing, uh, that I think,
Starting point is 00:43:19 I think it's just male versus female, uh, dudes found dude spaces. You don't have to be the best gamer to be on call of duty saying you're gonna fuck some guy's mom because just people were just that's what they were doing and it was because it was a male dominated space these gaming companies got mad because they're like women don't want to be in a space where guys are yelling at them all the time and women would post videos where they're like if if you're playing a shooter and they
Starting point is 00:43:41 find out you're a woman it's just gets all. And they start saying nasty shit or then one guy white nights. And then it's just you're not playing the game anymore. I think the reality is a lot of politics is like Democrats are women and Republicans are men. You look at the voting patterns and that's just typically the way it is. It's like not absolute. Obviously, there are some women who are Republican and some men who are Democrats. But voting patterns are basically women vote Democrat, men vote Republican. A lot of the women who are Republicans that I've talked to who are young, younger women who are Republicans, their dads were Republicans and they were raised conservative in a conservative household. So if you have a weak, spineless jellyfish of a father, you're going to get a slutty drug addicted daughter and if you have a strong you know
Starting point is 00:44:26 moral hard-working man who rolls up his sleeves you're going to have a wholesome successful family in general pretty hard to argue no but there are a lot of women who escaped bad families and and find the light figuratively and literally and there are people who are raised in deeply conservative homes become drug addicts whatever yeah but i think it's a tendency that you know daddy issues is the trope women with daddy issues end up becoming all weird and you know yeah i think i think there's mommy issues too for guys i think we talked about this before we often talk about how if you don't have a dad you'll be a criminal you'll be a drug addict i think there's issues of not having a mom that we don't track properly because it's it's we don't care to see the results like nobody cares if a dude is like emotionally cold distant but he's a great runner and he makes a lot of money he doesn't he
Starting point is 00:45:17 doesn't do drugs he doesn't break the law and we're like what a good guy and then you try and talk to him and he's a block of ice like nobody nobody tracks that and says that's bad, but it is bad for society. If people are not getting the motherly qualities from the other side of it. Well, and I think for men, I talked to Seamus one time on his podcast. I think for men, they,
Starting point is 00:45:37 there is a natural biological instinct to sort of guard against emotions to have, you know, to show signs of aggression, but not necessarily anything else. And, and the mother figures help regulate emotions that's what they're there for it's good to have that and eventually like when you're dating someone if you're dating a guy and he is okay with showing you his emotions that's a good thing that's a healthy bond and i think we have a society that has sort of confused what men are supposed to be doing at times where like tim is
Starting point is 00:46:06 saying like we don't acknowledge that like there are appropriate times and places for men to feel very deeply and and you know have whatever and so you have the opposite which is like this this desire for masculinity but not and you you have corrupt people saying like well this is the only way to be masculine you're supposed to act like this. You're supposed to treat, treat people like this. And that's how you show dominance. And that's the only, only version of masculinity. And so to a certain extent,
Starting point is 00:46:30 the internet tries to fill the voids that really strong parents, you need strong parents to fill. I almost wonder if, you know, my generation, they pushed everybody into college, right? And so we went into college and we,
Starting point is 00:46:43 we know we got the indoctrination and stuff going on, but I think it's deeper than that. The current generations, there's a big gap right now in the skills, like in the trades jobs. And when people who are working in the trades by nature are probably going to be more conservative, they're going to be a little bit more masculine. They're getting calluses on their hands, if you will. They were actually working and doing stuff. And so I think that leads to being more conservative, more masculine. And I don't know if that's the answer, but I would love to see a little bit of more research on that. Because like I said, in my generation, everybody had to, you were told you had to go to college,
Starting point is 00:47:14 you can even flip burgers if you want to go to McDonald's. And now we create this huge gap in the trades. And now you got a lot of younger people in the, you know, 18, 19 to 24 year range, a lot bigger percentage of them were just stepping into jobs in the trades, which are actual blue collar hardworking jobs. Yeah, it's interesting. Yeah, thank you for your input. I mean, personally, what I've seen when I was growing up, because I'm obviously Gen Z, a lot of people who played video games did not participate in social media early on. So I think that may have helped a little bit. But thank you guys for taking my call.
Starting point is 00:47:48 Glad to call in and have a nice night, everyone. Thanks for calling in. Cheers, brother. Appreciate you. Woo. That was fun. Yeah. Derek, thanks for hanging out.
Starting point is 00:47:57 It's been a blast. Yeah, man. Thank you guys for having me. Really appreciate it. It's been awesome. Right on. And for everybody who is a member, thank you all for making it possible.
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