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Every week, we produce four uncensored episodes of the TimCast IRL podcast exclusively at TimCast.com. And we're going to bring you the most important for our weekend show. If you want to check out more segments just like this, become a member at TimCast.com. Now, enjoy the show. welcome everybody to the special my birthday after show ian came up to join us hi everyone he looks like he just woke up i have been uh practicing i i've actually been very tired i was up really late last night you look like it yeah thanks what's really late 6 a.m 7 a.m uh yeah 7 a.m and then you went to bed you woke up i slept for like two hours today probably but anyway i want to rock and

roll you guys are talking about we'll do we'll do the song later so for everybody who wants to hear the conversation too let's do that i'll play a song too so we have this uh story from timcast.com seth rogan cites lack of children for his success me and my wife seem to get a lot more active enjoyment out of not having kids than anyone i know seems to get out of having kids and i just want to cope and seethe is that is that the appropriate response cope and seethe you know what's interesting to me is that you hear a lot of celebrities now and it's become this sort of like popular thing to say oh we're glad we didn't have kids we're successful because we didn't have kids i'm six who was somebody who was it you

probably remember she said i i got my oscar because i had an abortion oh yeah who was that was that i forget or something like that no okay okay i know she's a prominent antinatalist yeah she certainly was and then michelle will Williams. That's what it was. Seth Rogen was going hard on it today. That's what we're talking about. And yet you never

hear the reverse. You never hear someone say, oh, I wish I didn't have children. I wish that I didn't have these kids.

These kids are the worst. Why did I even do this? Yeah, I certainly don't feel that way. I saw one. It was a friend. Even in real life.

A girl that used to be a friend, but she was like on Adderall and had a Ukraine. I don't know if the Ukraine flag in the bio means anything, but it was probably the Adderall being distanced from emotions. Because she's like, my kid is this and that. It's like, dude. I mean, look, don't get me wrong. People vent, right? People are going to vent here and there but to put out a

statement about that where it's like i i'm glad i never had children or on the flip side i wish i had never had children it just doesn't feel like i feel like that's it's so much more a political statement than a statement about reality 100 it's more like it's more like tribal signaling than actually a reflection of their experience in life. Because they say, oh, you know, I don't have children and that's why I have all of these things and that's why I'm successful. And it's like there are an infinite amount of people that have children and that have done amazing things. So to think that you can't do, you can't have a successful life because of your children is completely ridiculous and totally detached from reality. Yeah. I mean, it barely even, it barely even warrants a reply. I mean, it's just that stupid. When I was thinking my hesitance to have kids in the early days was I

wanted to be able to fly them around the world with me because I didn't want to be the dad on the road. That's fair. That happens to me every day, man. I think about that all the time. And that's why I've tried for the longest time. We're even talking about something for the summer, some plans that I take them with me as much as I can. And I will do so as long as I can until they're in school. And even at that point,

you know, we'll see what we can do. Well, I take my, if it's summer, I take my son on all kinds of whatever stuff I have to do. Yeah. You know?

And then like, I plan like vacations around whatever the things are that I have to do. Like we went to Israel this, this fall. It was amazing. Yeah. We're planning a West coast trip to see, um,

I have two brothers. One of my brothers moved out to San Francisco. We're planning a West Coast trip to see. I have two brothers. One of my brothers moved out to San Francisco. We're planning a West Coast trip to go see his brother and his family. Look, I guess I was thinking as long as you're not like not seeing them 30 days and then seeing them one or two days. You were thinking the good times outweigh the amount of time you got to be away from that when you actually are there with your kids. It's so much better than being there with no kids. You were thinking more of like, if you were like on tour as a musician,

right? Yeah. Or having to fly to Sweden to talk to us for some two day thing. Yeah. For sure. I'm traveling like that. It is hard. I like taking my kid with me. Yeah.

When you have to leave for like, so from my experience, like that, it is a really tough thing to be like, I have to leave for like so from my experience like that it is a really tough thing to be like i have to leave for you know six weeks you know if we go on tour like we go we're not going for a weekend especially if you're starting out if you're because we're talking about young people having kids when they're young if you're looking to start as an uh a touring artist and you're going to be on tour for a month, six weeks, ten weeks

or whatever, it is really, really difficult. There's not a lot of stable families in that field. Military is the same way, right? I remember the unit I was in because we were in a high deployment unit, high up-tempo before I got out, last one I was in, that

I could just see the guys who had been in there for you know 20 years guys who were in 30 years and all of them were on their second wife all of them were like starting their second family and then you hear all these jokes about oh I'm a starter wife I'm a starter family and all this and it's like I don't want a starter family I want a family but that happens no matter what profession you're in too too. I mean, does this happen in the military? Seth Rogen's only 40? Wow. Wow, I thought he was 50.

My dad had four wives, basically. More green vegetables. I mean, one wasn't married, but he has children with four different women. And he never moved out of New England. Right, but I'm also making a more general point

that certain industries and certain occupations lend themselves to that. When I was married, me and my wife went through two deployments. She went to Iraq once and Afghanistan once, and that doesn't make anything easier. That sounds awful. At all. It was horrible.

It sucked. Without revealing other people's private information, I can, my buddies. I mean, when you're distance, the point of being together is literally being together. When you're there, you know? So distance. That's one of the reasons, man,

when it comes to, you know, this, we never show videos. They always show those videos of a soldier coming home to their kids and they're all so happy, but they never show the video of the front end of that where, know daddy's got to go off to get shot at mommy's got to go off to get shot at brutal and you sit there and you go i mean you think of like a joe kent situation and he's you know i'll talk about it because he's open about it that about what happened to his wife

you know two little boys and she's killed in syria and then matt gates goes up yesterday and tries to explain it, tries to get someone to just answer the question, why do we have these troops over there doing all this? And so we have to fight ISIS. Well, is ISIS in Syria poised to attack us? Like you're going to find crazy groups everywhere in the world. It's because of the pipeline and they think, well, it'll be $9.99 a gallon.

No, no, no. I mean, I get all that. But I guess as, you know, if there's anything that I can do from a, to be a voice for is to say that these are real people with real families and real children that are losing parents and losing time with parents, which can be just as bad

for their development, that you're sending people and you're playing with these families. And if you're going to do that, then okay, let's do that for a reason that matters. You only have little kids for like a minute. I know. Like, thankfully, like, I mean, I'm hoping to have kids in my life, but I didn't have young kids and miss out on their formative years and stuff.

Our guitar player just had his first kid or had a kid a year and a half ago. And we've done one tour since. And it was 10 weeks. And it was like, you know, I watched the guy suffering. You know, this dude that I've been in a band with for 20 years, you know, I've heard all the jokes you can imagine that dudes would make, you know, in a metal tube. And then watching him just be miserable, crying,

because he's got to leave his kid. And it's like, you know, you've had like this awesome situation where he's been at home for the first year of the kid you know it's like it's but let's let's suffer anyway it's almost like there's a biological spiritual natural imperative to raising children but let's just think about this from a logical standpoint not an emotional one people like seth rogan what makes them who they are will cease to exist from humanity by the way i i just like to say that I'm, I'm totally fine with Seth Rogen, not having kids.

Speaking about, this is my point. If, if these are the people like Chelsea Handler and Seth Rogen who aren't having kids, are we, we're not upset. I mean,

more power to them. They're doing what they want. And I don't care. If the media manipulates people to not have kids, then they're selecting themselves out of the gene pool. I'm fine with it. I'm fine. Done.

So I'll give you a great example. So, um, Ian have kids great example. Ian, have kids. Thanks. Ian, go to Latin Mass. Remember, we're going to Austin and then have kids. Are you guys going to Austin? Right after Latin Mass that night? Yes, exactly.

Make it happen? So, no. So, yeah, we'll find some girl for you. It'll be great. Oh, my goodness. Kara's downstairs. So this Sunday, I remember, so it's Lent right now, and you're supposed to sacrifice something for Lent.

So something I'm doing is I'm doing digital fast on Sundays. So no social media, no screens. Oh, I've been wondering, how does that feel? Mark Wahlberg's 40-day challenge, you mean? It's amazing. I'm definitely super against the Halo app. Like, I'm sorry, Mark. Like, Marky Mark.

What's the Halo app? Pay $8.99 to learn how to pray. Really? Oh, no. I've basically been digitally fasting on weekends as it is for a while. That's amazing. And it's so good. And you're standing a lot.

Sitting a lot. No, I just go to the poker tables and just turn everything off and ignore everybody. It's very healthy. And I came back on Sunday night or Monday morning, whatever it was, and was like, hey, man, somebody was dragging you on Twitter. And this thing went on and that thing went on. I was like, you know what I did? I was walking around the lake counting turtles with my kids. That sounds nice.

Counting turtles. I was just counting turtles with my kids. We found three. This is the worst thing because every day someone sends me something like, bro, did you see what they're saying about you now?

Every time, man. Every time. They say shit about me all the time, dude. What do the crickets say about you? So, you know, my phone was dead. I had like 10% battery left

last weekend. I was like, this is perfect. And I just put it in my pocket and I'm like, I'm going to sit at this table and nothing else is happening. It's so good. It's amazing.

And then I had some sushi, some crab rangoons. You know what else we've been doing? Those are good. And I've been reading a amazing. And then I had some sushi, some crab rangoons. You know what else we've been doing? Those are good. And I've been reading a ton. And just getting the physical book. And I was a guy, and I got this from when I was in the military,

just deploying a lot because you can't really carry books. So I kind of got into e-books. I got used to it. But then I would read on my phone. And the problem with reading on your phone is that you read, like, a couple sentences and then you're like you're like i'm just going on twitter yeah i'm just going over here just and then you miss it and i forgot how fast you can read with a physical book you can just read the book you could

just well you flow fast i keep thinking about the neural net totally fly like and it it it's like it's like reading a 10x it's like a movie like reading a book a physical book unfolds in your brain oh it's better than it's better than the movie yeah a book, a physical book unfolds in your brain. Oh, it's better than a movie. Yeah. If it's a good book, it can be better. It unfolds differently in your brain. Do you guys think Neuralink is inevitable or their species will just divide or bifurcate and people

will and people won't and there'll be conflict or something? I wonder. I think there'll be a species that... There'll be divisions, but I also think that there's something immutable to humanity that no amount of sophistication, whether it be Neuralink or anything like that, will ever be able to compensate for. Yeah, like you were saying, counting turtles with that depth perception of reality, like you're supposed to look into the horizon for 15 minutes a day so when we went to when we went to davos with tanya um i guess two years ago now um that it no it was may of 2020 so that uh we went to the uh the metaverse had a you know like a kiosk like set up there on the street and so

tanya goes in and the metaverse you know this there's like Swedish girl comes up to her and says, he's like, oh, this is wonderful. Then your children, they will not need to go to the zoo. They will not need to go to the forest. They can just go to the forest and the metaverse.

Oh my goodness. What a horror. So Tanya is looking at her going, so you want my kids to sit in their room with the, not just on the screen, but with the screen attached to their face and be in not interacting with with real nature or going to a zoo and seeing real animals but you want them to see fake animals on a screen and it just as a mom you know and kind of like horrifying

like a half normally she was like absolutely not yeah no way ethical question would you neural link with your child so that you would never be away from them? No, no. Would you get to travel a lot? No. Like six months out of the year? Never. No.

I mean, and I grew up in space or something. I grew up without my mom present. What are you saying with like, but like in a metaverse scenario? No, I would never. You are an astronaut. You get selected to go on some mission. You're going to be gone for four months out of the year at a time or whatever. You have a chance to link up with your kids so you can share thoughts.

No, that's a terrible idea. You should not be sharing thoughts with your children. Your child should grow up as their own person. No. It would just be an optional open source opportunity. Would it be like a phone call? What if you could plug your kid's brain in and reprogram bad things? I would never do anything like that.

But what if he's like throwing rocks at cats? Yeah. And then you're like, you've got to stop doing that. He did once destroy an iPad with a rock. Wow. Because he wanted to see what would happen. No, no, no. Serious question.

What if you catch your kid capturing cats and torturing them? Would you be like, I am going to remove that from them. This is a bad thing. They're going in a bad direction. Yeah, but you don't remove something by tampering with someone's brain in a gross and physical sense.

Here's a question for you guys. If your kid accidentally killed someone, would you shield them from the law? I think it depends on the circumstances. An accident. They're driving and they blew a red light, hit a car car the person died they come home in a panic saying what do i do would you either like would you shield them in any way

i think i would probably of course i would hire the best fucking attorney i could possibly find i think i think exactly a lot of parents would be like that was me driving i drove the car i wouldn't do that i wouldn't say i was car because that would be too easily disproven. There's cameras everywhere. When I was in the military, you know, there's always that question of like, hey, man, would you take a bullet for the president? You know, would you do this, take a bullet for that person? And it's always kind of like, well, I mean, I'd prefer not to, right? You know, I'd prefer to be in a situation where you don't have to, you know, do that.

You know, I don't have to you know do that um you know i i don't know but like when it comes to my kids it's like i don't even have to think about it of course i would that's probably just genetic just just of course just of course of course i would like ancient genetic and there isn't oh it's that's that's your baseline like first build like god had the first thought of a human and that's like the first thing so in this neural net experiment yeah like i don't even have to think about it of course i would take a bowl so if you were the neural net thing if it was like optional like the kid didn't have to you weren't reading his mind it was just like when you guys want to talk you can and it's like you

can just trade thoughts really quick you can see what he's seeing so you can like see what he's up to if you want if he wants to would you take that opportunity i think independence is too essential for a human being to be able to survive and to feel good and to be confident i don't i won't i would not want that you're talking about phone calls you're talking about cyborgs video chat like it's just kind of the next evolution of video chat i don't think it is the next evolution but i'm totally opposed to what if it's like what if it's like it's like one of those like what do they call it the loading room in matrix right right yeah where it was all white and you just kind of you could just call up whatever you wanted you know and so if it was something like that and i could meet my meet my kid there virtually then essentially you're just you're both experiencing

it's it's a virtual place but you're not in your head. That's what I'm saying. It's like a phone call. That's like playing video games. You don't want to go into someone else's head, and you don't want someone else actually inside your head. What if the government held you down and plugged a Neuralink into you and then started downloading your thoughts, and you're like, no. I guess the question is if you're in. Well, then I think you'd just have to be like, no. That's actually what happens to Ian after every show. It's more about if it's just like a vr that

is like you can put on in your in a room with your kid and you can have like a normal conversation that's as opposed to injecting something into your neck like i think the people have a big problem did you guys hear the story about the 20 something year old daughter who gave her kidney to her 60 year old dad i did and she didn't even tell him and he was like i don't want to yeah yeah he was like absolutely do not do this right and i feel like anyway he he's he probably felt immense pain at learning that his daughter is going to live 10 more years so he can live five that she'll be 35 and she'll lose 10 years no she you don't live that long when you have one kidney like people who give kidney transplants don't live that long what do you

really yeah like you're like she might live to be 50 and you can't drink and you have to be careful on your diet you have one kidney it's like i wonder if stem cells will help no more alcohol ever you know and so she's in her 20s and she gave her dad a kidney so we can have five more years fun stem cell treatment for her no she already gave her kidney up but for her single i'm just saying the point is healthy for her like i like I can't imagine she thinks she's doing the right thing because she loves her dad but I feel like that's probably the most painful thing

that dad heard I don't think I would do that for my parents and I even I like my parents I don't think a parent would want that they would want me to

no no I don't think so Homer no I wouldn't I wouldn't let me Homer Simpson has said this on more than one occasion every parent's dream

is to watch their children die or something like that what about the doctors who let her do that knowing that it was against her Every parent's dream is to watch their children die. Or something like that. What about the doctors who let her do that knowing that it was against her father's wishes? To outlive their children. Not to watch them die, but to outlive their children. Yeah, obviously no one feels that way.

At what point do you think when you're communicating with someone that you're in their brain? You said earlier you don't want to be in someone's brain. I don't think you're ever in someone's brain. I think that you can have the feeling that you're super close to somebody and that you're entirely sympathetic. He's talking about Neuralink, though. I know.

He writes. But like, I don't know. Like, once you get to that point of... Because like, when you look at someone's eyes, you're kind of brain to brain vibrating, like bouncing light brain to brain directly because the eyeball brain but isn't that isn't that part of the beauty of it of communication though is being able to attain that level of closeness without without actually penetrating the other person's mind oh that is pretty cool i mean that is communication that's the most wonderful i think i think that i mean neural link is going to be a Pandora's box of opening up things that we're never going to be able to fully predict.

Because keep in mind that at any given time, you have a running stream of consciousness. We all do uh we're already seeing the effects of the world with twitter where twitter is almost like we're being exposed to everyone else's stream of consciousness whereas as before it's like oh hey that's my neighbor you know i know my neighbor that's what's up bob you know bob usually goes to work around this time bob puts his trash out you know in the morning i put my trash out in the evening and that's what i know of bob right but now it's like i can follow bob on twitter and it's like whoa bob believes what about trump bob believes what about the fbi bob believes what you know please what you know bob's need about this and suddenly you're judging people based on their inner thoughts we're already doing that and we're

seeing how twitter and other social media are really testing the fabric of society so with neural link i think you're going to have that on a whole nother level yeah worse than people realize to the point where like you can't even control the thoughts that you think about think about this algorithmic thought distribution right you'll be sitting there being like i'm gonna i'm gonna think something really nice and send it to my family. And then your family never hears the nice thoughts, only the angry thoughts. Well, the other thing too that happens is if you think about it, sometimes you have

thoughts that are totally wacky thoughts and you didn't even mean to have them. They just come into your brain. Intrusive thoughts. We're called intrusive thoughts. Or like, you know, you have a dream that is not something that you want. And you have to be able to say to yourself okay these are thoughts that i am having that doesn't mean that they are thoughts that i believe in i am entertaining these

thoughts and they are going to flip right by and i don't have to deal like i don't have to internalize you don't have to internalize all the thoughts you have yeah there's this some of them you can just be like oh that's crazy i crazy. I thought that. The tobacco demon hits me every once in a while. They call it the father. The tobacco demon. Ayahuasca the mother. Tobacco's the father.

So I've never, like, I quit drinking, what, 17 years? And like, I don't think about, like, I just, I never think, like,

I never had that feeling of like, oh, I want to drink. But every once in a while, just randomly, I could be driving. Oh, yeah. Music, whatever whatever and it'll just hit me like man i go for a cigarette it's like whoa where did that come from i haven't had

i haven't had a drink in five years and i haven't had a cigarette in three i never thank you i never think about drinking ever i don't care cigarettes man if i walk by someone telling you like man i'm gonna kick your ass and take that you know in South America, this dude was telling me they would boil the tobacco and then drink it and puke and have these psychedelic experiences. And the natives would call it like the father. I just want to drag. But it's similar to how ayahuasca is done. I just want to drag. Yeah.

I guess maybe even mix those two together at some point. Right. So it wasn't just the ayahuasca plant that they were doing it with. To your point, they were doing the process. Yeah. I didn't know they had tobacco fasts, but they were like tobacco ceremonies and stuff. So there's this frequency called the Schumann resonance. It's in the ELF band, the extremely low frequency band of our,

I don't know if it's in the lower outer atmosphere or inner atmosphere or something, but it changes in frequency. It's just a frequency band. It depends on what it is. Yeah, and it violates. It goes up and down. You're like, what the fuck? And it seems to resonate with human activity.

I don't know. I've heard that. I haven't really looked too deeply into it. I was actually talking about the ELF band earlier this week because that's how you communicate with submarines. Okay. And I wonder if that's where those thoughts are coming from. They come into your head? You need a giant antenna.

Super powerful to be able because you have to penetrate through the salt water you have to penetrate through the salinity layers to be able to get to the submarine

which is beneath and it's like texting on a Nokia phone even with all this power and it would get out that's why I was talking about the Nord Stream attack don't know the rest

of the words don't know the rest of the words that's all I got I want to play this song I don't know wait rest of the words? Don't know the rest of the words. That's all I got. Now I'm in love. Now I'm in love. I want to play this song. I don't know what time it is.

Wait, do you want to look up the lyrics to House of the Rising Sun and I'll play it? Yeah, I'll do that. Phil Labonte singing House of the Rising Sun. Can I sing too? Yeah.

If you can sing. I studied it. I learned it. I learned, I learned, I think it's Mandarin. What are the chords? A minor, C, D, F. And then the verses A minor, E, A. Pipan dou jang. A critical struggle.

I'll watch you and do it. No? Pipa dou jang. Jang. Dou jang? Yeah, yeah. You don't have a bass, do we? Yeah.

Yeah, we took the bass out for the music video shoot. Are you ready? Yeah, go ahead. Start it. You start it. All right. There was a house in New Orleans They call the rising sun and sung It's been the rule

of many a poor boy And God I know I'm one My mother was a tailor She sewed my new blue jeans

My father was a gambler Way down in Orleans I don't know the next part. Suitcase and a trunk. Why'd you stop? Because I don't know the rest of it.

Oh, you're ready yet. Well, I'm warmed up. Let's fucking rock. I don't play this one. What do we leave off? Not the only thing a gambling man ever needs. Not the only thing a gambler needs. It's a suitcase and a trunk.

A trunk. Yeah. And the only time a little like him is satisfied is when he's on a drunk. So mothers, tell your children not to do what I have done Spend your life in sin and misery In the house of the rising sun Well I've got one foot on the platform And another foot on the train I'm going back to New Orleans

To wear that ball and chain That was us half playing a song because everybody's kind of gave up halfway. Yeah, you know what happened is I looked at the lyrics and I only got half the lyrics. I had to look up Dylan's lyrics to get all of them.

I'm on a digital fast. I was just here to rock. I had to look up Dylan's lyrics to get all of them. I'm on a digital fast. I was just here to rock. I have no idea how the song goes beyond the first one. Yeah. Like the first one. It's all the same thing. I just lived it. I always like the...

Yeah. It's our low. And then they go up higher. All right, I'm going to play this song Earthbound because I do that in this song. I change octaves. It's called Earthbound. Here it goes.

Let me get this. I want to make sure you can hear the guitar too let's see if you can add some screams some harmonies I can do it we can do it I just need to practice it so I know it Sit on the ground, pushing it down Everyone feels just a little bit All of the people are pushing a little bit All of the round heads that abound Pushing and pulling so intricate

All of a sudden the rivers are golden dreams we can row we can't stream the flow suffering a little bit we can change the world and we'll grow to know that no one's just half of it. Looping inside, you're playing a lie. Rock and rolling on the edge of it. As we tip over, we fall to the side. Long days alone, the feelings I've known. Give me a little bit of everything though my emotions run red with the sound We're gonna find All things in time

Everyone plays the game a little bit And all the people Curve around and I do it We're gonna find All things in time Everyone plays the game a little bit All the time spent making, taking and breaking it Oh shit, here we go

And we can rise, we can stream the tide Spine up those ecstasy We can hang around and Climb the boughs that spread out of the walking tree. Hoping inside and playing alive. Rocking and rolling on the edge of it.

As we tip over, fall to the side. It's easier out without no head. Long days alone and the feelings I know give me a little bit of everything All my emotions run red with the sound Oh shit, that's it.

Oh, I fucked that last part up there. I go into a little bit more harmony there, I guess. Oh, we can do that last part up there. I Give me a little bit of everything For my one-on-one revolution song Do you know the words to Karma Police? Karma Police? Yeah. Radio Web?

No, that would be so sick. That would be cool. That should do Karma Police. Karma Police. You've got the voice for that, though. Yeah, that song, so those high notes, I couldn't hit those high notes now.

That's more you than Phil. Phil could do, I think that song could be really, really raucous. Really fucking epic for that. You know the words? Talks in math He buzzes like a fridge And he's like a detuned radio Come up, police Arrest this girl

Her pitiful hairdo is making me feel ill, but we have crashed her body. This is what you'll get This is what you'll get This is what you'll get When you mess with us Karma police I've given all I can and it's not enough

I've given all I can but we're still on the payroll Oh, I screwed it up. But we're still on the payroll Oh, I screwed it up. There we go. This is what you'll get This is what you'll get

This is what you'll get When you're lost with us For a minute there I lost myself, I lost myself For a minute there, I lost myself, I lost myself Oh yeah I think it goes on longer than that It just kind of repeats Yeah, like one more time

It's not a super long song It's only four and a half minutes. What was that? It's not a super long song. It's only four and a half minutes. Four and a half? That seems long. That's a long song. That's not short.

You know, I have one other song I think we're going to consider releasing on Trash House Records coming up. It's called Frequent Measure. What's a cover we could do? Do something easy. Do Green Day. She. Let's sing She by Green Day.

Not our Women's Day yesterday. I don't know that one. I don't either. I haven't seen that song forever. Just do some rhyme signs, something light. Yeah, do Haas. I know that one. That's a good song.

Do Rich the Good. Yeah, Du Hast. I know that one. That's a good song. Du Risse Gut. Little Sabaton. That's like a four. Do some like... How's the Rising Sun? It's an easy one. Everybody knows it. Still got terror. Oh, I used to know how to play Ohio.

Well, everyone knows that journey song too. Journey? No, not journey. No, I'm just saying everybody knows it. That's like AFCG. I'm just saying everybody knows it. That's like AFCG. I'm just saying everyone knows it.

You can play any pop song with AFCG. What about Beatles? Mm-hmm. I used to know a ton of Beatles. I don't know anything. I was like,

I was playing a crackpot version of Blackbird a moment ago. Black Sabbath singing in the dead of night. I don't actually know how to play it. I just like, you know, crackpot version. I read Tabs once and that was about it. Well, I don't know.

If you don't got any ideas, maybe we just go to bed. Oasis? Man, I used to know all that stuff. Oasis is like... You know what I used to know? Have you ever seen The Rain? How do you play that? I love that song. Every previous song is good. how do you play them i love that song every creative song is good someone told me long ago that one's really easy how do you play it is that it's like walks down

i can't remember the last time i sat down to learn someone else's music just that's kid songs for me it's how easy it is. Like kid songs and like Christmas songs. So long ago, there's a calm before the storm. And I know we've been coming for some time. I want to know Have you ever seen the rain? I want to know, have you ever seen the rain? The rain, the rain, the rain. Coming down on a sunny day.

What's the name of the song? Have You Ever Seen the Rain. Have You Ever Seen the Rain Have you ever seen the rain? You know it, right? I don't know it. John Fogarty. CCR. Yeah.

Yesterday and days before The sun is cold, the rain is hard And I know I've been that way all my time Till forever on it goes Through the circle fast and slow And I know It can't stop, I wonder

I wanna know Have you ever seen the rain? I wanna know Have you ever seen the rain? Rain, rain, rain, rain Coming down on a sunny day. All right. That was fun.

I want to know. Ah! He really says that. I want to know. Like when you really say it. Is that your experience? I want to know. Yeah, it's a big one.

But just in general, as a singer, when you're singing, it's less about hitting the notes or making it sound right. It's just about saying what you're saying. No. You find it the opposite or both together? How do you see it? You've got to know where you're going. Well, that's for sure.

You've got to have the technique. If your shoes aren't tied, you're going to trip. No, no. But no, no. You have to know where you're going. You think so? Yes. When you say shoes aren't tied, you're talking about how you're starting to get there you have to know where you're going you have to know where the note is and you you don't have to know you don't have to have perfect pitch but with you have to

have good relative pitch you have to hear the other notes that are going on around you in the song and you have to know where you're going so once you know then when you're singing it i i used to be all technical. I'm like, I got to hit the note, how I think it sounds. And then I realized, no, I got to say the words like I think they mean. And when you do that in the notes, it's two different. There's three things that when I'm in the box and I'm doing stuff, there's three things that producers tell me. They're going to tell me I don't believe it, which i'm not performing it well my timing or my notes

so either i don't believe it pitch or timing that's the only thing that they say my like i'll do a line and the only thing i hear in my ears is the producer go timing because if you're because you're focused too much on your pitch then you might not believe it exactly but if you're focused too much on believing it they might hear it well i if you're focused too much on believing it, then you might not hear it. Well, I was too much on believing it on Earthbound, but my speed was completely fucked. Like, it was all over the place. So those are the three things you need to make sure.

You have to be in time, you have to have the right pitch, and then you also have to perform it. So you can be, like, if you're hitting the notes, but you're doing, na-na-na-na-na-na-na, you know, as a, na-na-na-na-na-na-na, you know, it's like you're hitting the notes, but you're doing... It's like you're not performing unless you're giving it.

Come on, Phil. What do you know about recording music? Not a goddamn thing! Do you ever record with multiple microphones at the same time? No. Is that something that might be a good idea? One at a time, do it over, and then there's this program called Vocaline that we use. Do you know Country Roads, Take Me Home? Country roads.

Here we go. Take me home. I was going to suggest that, by the way. I don't know the beginning. West Virginia, mountain mama. Take me home Country roads Country roads

Take me home To the place Where I belong West Virginia Mountain Mama Take me home West Virginia Mount Mama Savior Country roads That's another one.

I hear her voice. We only know the chorus. Well, I had to pull it out, but I don't know how the rest goes. West Virginia Blue Ridge Mountains I don't know how the rest goes. West Virginia. Blue Ridge Mountains. Shenandoah River.

Life is old there. Wait, wait. You scrolled down on me. Life is old there. Life is old there. Older than the trees. Younger than the mountains, growing like a breeze. Country roads take me home to the place I belong. West Virginia, mountain mama, take me home, country roads.

Oh, the memories. I don't know. I'm not saying the verse. I don't know how the verse goes. The bridge is, I don't know what the chords are on the bridge. There's just the chorus. And in the morning hour she calls me. Radio reminds me of my home far away.

Oh, yeah, you got it. Yesterday, yesterday, you took me home. As I was going over the court in Kerrymonton, I saw Captain Petal and his money. He was cute and never produced my pistol. And then produced my rapier. Well, there was like a good 20 seconds and that sounded really awesome with all of us singing.

Yeah. That was good. That was like a thing. All right. How about we wrap it up, I guess? Okay, then. so this was a special birthday wrap up sing along

that we all got to participate in that was really fun happy Wednesday I sang happy birthday to Tim in Chinese he did it was really great

yeah we gotta do Chinese country roads that'd be great alright Jack thanks for hanging out Libby thanks for hanging out

it's been a blast and for everybody who's a member thanks for hanging out on my birthday and listening tojia Ma Lu yeah it's been a blast and for everybody who's a member thanks for hanging out on my birthday and listening to us play some music and I thought that

song was pretty awesome we should do something like that later on maybe we should actually like learn a song and we can sing along to it and I'll learn them

but like if we could actually play Country Roads well and everyone sang along to it that sounds pretty good Long Cui Ma Lu let me go home and everyone's saying along to it, that sounds pretty good. That would be... I'll need help with pronunciation,

but she's hilarious. I like it. Well done. All right, everybody. Thanks for hanging out and we will see you all next time.