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responsible for the wildfires in maui white White people! That's right.
I did.
In the New York Times, apparently,
they have this long, this is from townhall.com.
We were all waiting for the left to voice
this terrible opinion on the Maui wildfires
from Matt Vespa. And he says,
you knew this opinion piece would bubble up at some point.
The Maui wildfires, etc, etc.
The cause of the fires had to be
determined. I guess they're saying it's power lines.
But for some, the Maui wildfires
which have destroyed communities and shattered families
was an opportunity to bash Americans
and America and blame the real
culprit of these fires, white people.
Now is not the time for pseudo-intellectual
lectures about the perils of colonialism.
That's basically what they're saying.
White people came in and took over.
If you type in what caused the fires,
as I did from the article,
intergovernmental panels has climate change, blah, blah, blah.
When Christian missionaries transformed an area
that was mostly wetlands into large-scale sugar plantations
that required the digging of tunnels in the buildings, blah, blah, blah.
The sugar and pineapple industries led to the deforestation,
et cetera, et cetera.
I had to stop here.
What the hell is this? To understand the fires, we must look to the 19th deforestation, etc., etc. I had to stop here. What the hell is this?
To understand the fires, we must look to the 19th century.
No, we don't.
There are more pressing matters at hand, like finding the hundreds that are still missing.
But you get the point.
They're saying it's colonization.
It is that white people came, and, you know, they're bad.
So colonization of Hawaii, like, so first of all, like, it was bad that, you know, they were, they kind of, you know.
It was an invasion.
They kind of took over the island.
I think it was in violation of some, like, conventions or something.
Sorry we rot you power, man.
No, no, no, no, no.
That's not it.
Because the thing is, because of Hawaii's location, there was never, because Hawaii is so small and it is so remote and located in the middle of the biggest ocean on earth there was
never a chance for it to avoid being gobbled up by some massive power right you can't be
an island nation with that kind of strategic value and think that russia or japan or the united
states or someone isn't going to go ahead and say we're going to come here with our military
infrastructure and put something here now you can say it's wrong you can disapprove of it but that you are not
going to there is nowhere on earth that's insulated from the rest of earth the way that it needs to be
to make sure that it doesn't like north sentinel island's the only place you know what's going on
there they're protected what what's going on north sentinel island nothing is what do you mean they're
protected by what you will be spear speared if you show up there.
Oh, the natives have never been made contact with.
When people show up, they kill you.
And it's protected by, I think, like India or whatever?
India, yeah.
It's actually a part of India.
They run their own stuff.
And if you go there, they're going to shoot arrows at you.
And like a couple years ago.
Yeah, a helicopter flew by and they were shooting arrows at it.
A couple years ago, a guy got killed because he tried to go shooting arrows at it. I imagine that would be... A guy got killed
because he tried to go there.
You ever seen Cannibal Holocaust before?
Anybody ever watch it?
No, no.
I won't bring it up.
There's a visual,
like a video simulation
of the colonization of the Pacific
that's fucking wretched.
You guys gotta watch it.
I just gotta say,
Phil, I'm sorry.
You've just proved them right.
What?
North Sentinel Island hasn't burned down.
This is...
That proves it!
That's true.
Did you see... But North Sentinel Island is not remote like Hawaii.
It doesn't have power lines on it, does it?
No, there are no power lines in North Sentinel Island.
Guys, I have to say this.
It is difficult for me.
Without Luke or Serge here, I'm the only person of color.
That's not true.
I'm Polish.
Oh, you are?
Congratulations.
And it's not 1 16th it's a quarter okay so yeah quarter
korean so that counts oh there we go all right something in common oh so we can rag on these
white dudes yeah i do it all the time i've been i've been called the blackest member of the
libertarian party several times i never i never uh 23 and need myself so i don't know if i'm black
or white or colored or not i'm i'm confident that
you're white i'm sorry are you though i'm spanish i'm mostly spanish i think i might be neanderthal
spanish is white yeah polish polish is a person of color what if i'm five percent neanderthal
then you're still white because then you're not human actually then you count as an animal that's
what i'm talking about and you're yeah and you have actually less rights you gotta go with the communist i'm gonna i'm gonna side with the uh that the white colonists
i'm not that they're white but the colonists did cause this joe biden tweeted today that he's laser
focused on the maui recovery he should probably be a little less focused on a single thing man
dude this is when we had nick sorter on the show last night and
i mean he's basically almost explaining what we're talking about right now that people came in they
set up power lines they kind of modernized and colonized the island and then they don't take
the wood out of the they don't like keep up the forest you're supposed to go in and remove the
the dead wood from underneath the trees so that these brush fires don't happen and they haven't
been doing that that's what's not white people that are doing that white people are not the people in charge of the island it's the
democrats on the west coast it's the democrats and i'll tell you i grew up on the west coast
all up and down oregon and washington and california progressive deforestation policies
have created all the wildfires on the west coast period they've stopped clearing the underbrush
they stopped taking down trees so there's trees growing right next to trees it's like a giant
tinderbox why did they stop because of the the push from the left for you know conservation oh to leave it natural yeah i
mean part of our natural survival is our ability to go in from the from the beaches into the forest
get the dead wood out go back to the water the natural the natural thing is forest fires the
logging natural thing is there was a forest never go and never there was never forest fires when i was a kid there were but they were nothing like there's 150 of them in oregon
every year there's power lines going through all those forests now and if you're going to do that
you need to do management of the forest white people man so i agree with phil and i also agree
with you it's progressive deforestation policies have led to uh giant tinderboxes all up and down
the west coast there's no doubt about it and and anybody who's arguing that at this point is is just a democrat or doesn't understand what they're
talking about those policies have bled into hawaii i'm sure yeah well the the stuff that's on hawaii
is a little different i i don't know what uh you know what their policies are but i know that the
the stuff that caught on fire was grassland. I believe that Hawaii was on purpose.
Yeah, if not...
The fire was on purpose?
If not that it was set, that it was allowed to happen?
Here's the thing.
If it wasn't on purpose, they still used it to make sure that they could get really cheap real estate.
The government.
Yeah.
And there's a story about one of the residents was arrested for trying to go back to his house.
And they're blocking off all the destruction.
They were blocking off people trying to get out.
Right.
There's a guy who's 39.
He was trying to go back to his property, apparently.
They saw him leaving, so they arrested him and said that was trespassing.
You're not allowed in there.
And when they reported on the arrest, most outlets did not mention that he was actually a resident trying
to go back to his property perhaps because there's like valuables that are hard metal
like imagine you've got i don't know let's say let's say you have a couple hundred bucks with
a silver that silver is still there it's not destroyed in the fire you want to go get it
nope sorry oh and there's you have there's safes that are fires oh totally absolutely
so dude's got like a a photo album or something or some memory cards
or hard drives or money probably money yep and he wants to go get it back so they arrest him
like what what the fuck is going on that they're keeping these people out well and they're they're
offering to buy that property for pennies on the dollar now and oprah and hillary are sitting there
up on the mountain having coffee watching it going we're gonna get some new property it's literally
some of the most most valuable property in the world too because no doubt it's it like i said
hawaii is is really really unique it's one of the most remote places in the world the value of the
shoreline there you know it's it's beyond astronomical and the there have been developers
trying to get the uh local owners of the property who've owned it for generations, offering them tens of millions of dollars for a lot.
And they're not selling because they don't want to lose the property.
It's literally priceless because there's nowhere else in the world like it.
It's their family's property, too.
They got it.
I think Nick quoted it as one square acre one acre squared
is that how you say it is 10 million one lot that would make one lot i think he said one
one acre was it five acres one acre was 10 million it's a tiny piece of land for how much money it
was i know that i think it was like one lot he was saying like waterfront one lot on uh in lahaina
like he's like 10 mil every every cent without. Without a property. Just the land.
If I had the money to buy property in Hawaii,
again, I would buy property in Hawaii again
because they're not making any more.
It's the most valuable piece of land
that you could probably get your hands on.
The volcanoes are making more.
It's true.
They're only making them on the big island, though.
They're not making any more property on the other islands.
It's so sad.
And I've heard, i don't know if
this is true but apparently maui was supposed to be a candidate for like a smart island so they're
supposed to do all this like green renovations anyway and i think this is going to definitely
speed up the process well look i went up on zillow and uh 2.3 million for 15 acres. Where?
Lahaina.
Coastal.
What?
Really?
Yeah.
Buy it, Tim.
How much?
2.3 million.
There's a $1 million lot.
Oh, it's also... They're like semi-coastal because it's a road.
But yeah, $1 million for 15 acres.
Buy it.
In Lahaina?
But why?
Does it say that in lahaina right now yeah
yeah yeah yeah lahaina there's there's a photo of one house in the middle of all the fire that
survived 50 days on zillow so these are these are old listings obviously but they've frozen sales so
you can't buy them 3.5 million what do we got here this got to be a property i'd imagine this
got to be like actual building this one is uh, nope, 25 acres. Wow. Lot land.
Oh, it's all just land.
What's going on?
Is it just like vertical, like 60 degree angles?
Maybe that's it though.
Unhabitable.
There's no houses for sale.
No, they're there.
I just have to select.
Let me just select, apply.
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Taking a long time.
These are apparently old listings, though.
Okay, here we go.
That didn't add much.
What is this?
Maybe if I turn the Wi-Fi on.
I know it's really expensive.
Here we go.
Two-bedroom, two-bath, 3.5 million.
Wow.
13.
So these houses are on like 15 acres is big.
A lot.
So this is a two-bedroom, two-bath, 1,000 square foot.
It's 3.5 million.
Beautiful house. Probably no longer exists. It's 3.5 million. Beautiful house.
Probably no longer exists.
Been on the market for 118 days.
I don't think this house is there anymore.
Whoa.
Yeah, that's crazy.
I'll tell you this.
Oh, wait, no.
What happened?
There's a plot of land two towns away from me in Iowa right now.
71 acres with a seven bedroom old school farmhouse on it.
Bunch of farms and other stuff comes with a tractor for the cornfield, I think.
$1.1 million.
Wow.
71 acres.
$11 million for a five bedroom, five and a half bath.
5,777 square feet on five acres.
Jeez.
$11 million.
How much was that, Josh?
71 acres in Iowa right now for sale for $1.1 million.
Wait, what?
71 acres. Yeah, that's terrible. I for $1.1 million. Wait, what? 71 acres.
Yeah, that's terrible.
I bought my 41.1 million.
You can get 130 acres in West Virginia in Morgan County.
This has a seven-bedroom farmhouse farm.
It comes with the corn tractor, all the irrigation.
I think that's expensive.
That's cheap.
77 acres?
I'm from California.
It'd be a $20 million, easy $20 million deal where I'm from.
If it's a functional farm, then it's not bad because you can literally go in and start producing a profit.
So we got 50 acres with two standing structures.
One in need of renovation, but still sound.
One brand new uh building and the the 50 acres was 750 that's really that's really nice that's west virginia yeah that is really
that's normal i didn't know it was that cheap here yeah and we're and we're you're an hour
from the airport yeah yeah so that's why when you were like a million for 70 i'm like that's
not that good 70 71 i think it's like 71.2 acres is it i mean it's
fairly comparable i suppose i have a much easier to clear the land yeah i have a feeling he's
talking about an actual farm and what you got was like property with a stroke with structures he's
got like the infrastructure irrigation so it's a full functioning farm yeah it's got a full corn
field and you get you know you got a corn field now well you get them corn subsidies man yeah if
you got a cool another thing is you got corn field that means you grow the food that you can
give to your dairy cows so we we were talking about doing this out here of um
there's like a hundred acre lot let me uh let me try and look hundred acres is a lot
you're talking about the reserve yeah we're talking about making like a public
let's do this let's uh i remember the name hundred acres is a lot of acres we were gonna buy and just be like
come build whatever you want and we'll like we're not gonna charge rent or anything but there's
gonna be like it's not for you to live and whatever it's still like have fun things make a
little fur trader hut or something and then you'll have you'll have that piece of land for as long as
you decide and then if you leave and don't come back after a certain amount of time we take it
and we'll give it to somebody else. But it's basically like a park
where people can do fun stuff.
That's a pretty cool idea.
Yeah, it was right around when Elon took over Twitter
and those two guys memed the internet,
Ligma Johnson.
Yes, yep.
And so we were having fun
with the different names we can make
with a preserve.
That was a lot of fun.
Yeah.
That was a good couple weeks there.
I really enjoyed that.
Oh, time flies, man.
It seems like it was not that long ago.
It was over a year. It was a while ago, yeah. Yeah, because I've had my Twitter back. there i really enjoyed that a lot time flies man it seems like it was not that long ago over it was
a while ago yeah yeah because i've had my twitter back i was off i was kicked off twitter for over
a year i got kicked off and i want to say it was like october of 2020 why i never got a reason
was it were you talking about covid no i was talking about pedophiles i think oh october 2020
good timing yeah i think it was i
was talking i think it was that map the the the teacher who was saying that we had to normalize
the term minor attracted person and that destigmatized the word pedophile and i was just
like that's really nice now face the wall and uh i think i think it was that was the last straw but
i had already had a bunch of strikes talking about covid and the products and stuff oh the vaccines now we're on the after show fuck them fucking vaccines yeah the radical geez yeah
i was talking about i was talking about covid a lot i read maybe it was 2021 when i got kicked off
i don't remember but i was off for over a year i know i was over a year and then i had sent an
appeal every single day for 365 days and then all of of a sudden, one day I woke up and my Twitter was back.
What day?
I don't remember.
But within the last six months or before that?
No, I feel like it's been a while now.
It's been over six months for sure.
After Elon bought it?
Right after Elon bought it.
Within a couple of weeks, yeah.
Because I was already at almost a 20,000 follower account.
There you go.
260 acres in Morgan County, West Virginia. 1.5 million. Wow. That's crazy. That's beautiful. Got a big old barn on account. There you go. 260 acres in Morgan County, West Virginia.
1.5 million.
Wow.
That's crazy.
That's beautiful.
Got a big old barn on it.
Got water access.
Look at this.
Is that a deer barn?
That's crazy.
So forests like that, that's why Appalachia is a stronghold if anyone invades us.
Yeah, it's going to be hard to get through there.
But these things are basically everywhere.
You ain't riding tanks through there very easily.
No.
116 for a mil.
That's pretty wild.
What do we got here?
How much is this one?
2.9. 1,000. That's pretty wild. What do we got here? How much is this one? 2.9.
1,000.
Look at that view.
936 acres for 2.9 million.
That's a ranch, my friend.
That might be worth getting.
Yeah.
That's a ranch.
All you get, that river access is...
Yeah.
Especially in the future, man.
You're going to control resources in that area for sure.
There's no doubt.
You can build cities and stuff.
105 acres for $290,90 000 i could buy something a lot
to clear wow that would be do it man lord crazy that's really cool yeah that's wild for 2.2.9
that's wild it's only 290 000 290 000 wait a minute what 290 000 through 100 acres i have
what no way yeah put down five percent can you Does it say that you can't build there or something?
There's got to be some kind of caveat.
No, it's just in the middle of fucking nowhere, dude.
Land is, yeah, land out,
like when you got like land with like nothing on it,
it's not super expensive.
It costs so much to renovate.
Well, I mean, yeah, you got to clear it
and you got to build on it and stuff.
I thought it was 2.9 million for a minute
and then I looked closer.
I can't see that far away.
I got bad eyes. I got a little data about Hawaii.
It was first colonized by the United States
in 1900, and they had it as a colony.
There's a shitload of this.
If you start going further out to the
Maryland panhandle,
276 acres for 900.
How far away from the airport is that?
About an hour. It's basically super close
to Cumberland. You're farther than an hour away you're gonna you're gonna want to do some kind of puddle
jumper from a small airport but uh martinsburg has one pittsburgh's like an hour like probably
two hours from here that's not far okay right and then you're the air like you're gonna hour and 45
maybe two hours to one of the dc airports pittsburgh pennsylvania is only that is that
close to here oh yeah dude
gettysburg is like what like 45 minutes away oh wow we get steelers games out here really yeah
gettysburg is right over here i just uh just want you want to stay away from uh maryland but here
you go in maryland which is like 30 40 minutes from the airport 590 000 for 150 acres thermon
is good though thermon thermon is my manga country
definitely yeah but who cares because baltimore is not and baltimore is going to send state
troopers to beat the fuck out of you if you have a gun yeah yeah i won't go anywhere that doesn't
allow me constitutional carry that's for sure you just got to go all the way out to the middle
of nowhere here and get that's more expensive shit i love the middle of nowhere stuff but the
problem is we couldn't do the show we wanted to we want to go to like wyoming or montana it's hard
with the internet right someone said make sure the land is not perked they may not let you build
perked or they may not let you build i don't know what that means that's the hardest part about being
in iowa too is we we only got like one gig and and it's i i can't multi-stream my show
you can get uh you need to get like five star links and then bond them yeah it's, I can't multi-stream my show. You need to get like five star
links and then bond to them. Yeah, I gotta do something
crazy. It drops, if I,
because I use OBS to put the show out,
and so if I
try to restream, like to
three or four different platforms, we'll
start dropping frames right away, and then
we'll drop the whole show. I can only,
I only stream to YouTube, and then it auto
uploads to Rumble and other places here you go 113 acres for a
thousand dollars no in iowa what yeah is that iowa yep yeah where what uh west gate i don't
buy it right now yeah can you put a buy now can you put a buy now in for me please
no these are these are fake it's
like one dollar it's not real i think that's auctions they'll do that look around adele
we live in west uh we live in west des moines they might have that property on in adele in adele
here you go 156 for that's cool where is that adele it's right outside of des moines somewhere
it's they're all basically a million i live in west in West Des Moines. Oh, here you go, dude. 118 for 200K.
Yeah, that's not bad.
It's an auction.
It's an auction.
Of course.
Yeah, dude.
Iowa's expensive, man.
You know why?
It's because Chicago's right there.
Yeah, we're about five hours away from Chicago, where we live.
Minneapolis, too.
Yeah, that's the coolest part about Iowa is you can get so many places in 10 hours.
You can get to 20 states in 10 hours either way.
It's crazy. crazy see that's the
thing i drive everywhere not like anyone's gonna go buy 100 acres but yo seriously let's like let's
let's let's do this let's uh let's do a lot size of one acre to five acres
and then let's set the price way down, 200. Yeah, there's tons of land to be had.
Five acres for 200.
That's a ton more, too.
That's a pretty cool spot.
Yeah, that's a thing people need to understand about buying properties. We don't have any mountains, though.
You don't need $200,000.
You save up for a few years until you get a down payment, and then you buy it,
but you've got to figure out what your income is to pay that loan off or whatever.
Phil, we're going to go to Callers.
Are you in the middle of nowhere, your place?
Not particularly middle of nowhere.
I mean, it's a small town.
No particular order tonight, however you want to do it.
All right, Liam the Sensor, we're starting with you.
Welcome to the show.
Thank you all so much for having me on.
So my question for the panel,
given that World War III seems to be pretty likely, I wanted to see if you all, like if Article V was triggered, do you all think that there's a possibility that the U.S. might not even send troops and that we'd essentially act as a manufacturing base for the rest rest of nato so they could we already sent troops i mean like large scale i'm talking like you know not just
special forces i'm you know what i mean because i mean like at that point you're kind of no we
so yes definitely boots on the ground no question but i reject the premise of the question that world war three is likely i don't at least i think that the ukraine thing it's not i think we're pushing
i think we're pushing russia russia into the arms of china and then we're messing with china at the
same time it's kind of it's a little worrisome for sure i don't know if it's imminent but it's
definitely worrisome it should be worrisome to everybody for sure and taiwan is a trip wire for
war right 100 and um you think consider just considering we have troops uh already in europe
and we have special forces already in ukraine there's more support is going to be sent uh you
can maybe make the argument that we're not going to see heavy combat from our personnel in the
immediate but we send you know tech support and supplies and we have a large amount of soldiers on military
bases throughout europe but yeah and article five means every member of nato yep but that's the
thing is if you got a defensive pact and then one of the and then someone's in a war and then they
join your defensive pact after they're already in the war it doesn't trigger your defensive pact i mean i don't know that you can really say that not historically it didn't i don't know what they
would do though i i personally i look i'm anti ukraine and nato there's absolutely no reason
take that a step further phil be anti-nato well yes i am fair enough i am but for this context i'm absolutely against ukraine being a
part of nato 100 there is no reason to have a ukraine uh join nato all it does is make conflict
with russia more likely ukraine and russia have like a long real deep history russia comes from
ukraine like the ukrainian russ were the people that started
russia so like that that history we don't want to stick our nose in like we don't i don't i don't
there's no reason for the united states to do that like at all so that's my take i just don't
think that we should we should be defending ukraine from russia that's beyond our our
or taiwan from, for that matter.
But Liam, did you want to elaborate any more on that one?
It was a simple answer.
We said yes.
Yeah, like if you guys are okay with my
elaborating on it.
So like the reason I kind of thought about
that was because, you know,
despite us offshoring
a lot, we still have a large manufacturing base.
We have a large population.
Plus, you have other countries where it'd probably be more likely that they'd be involved and be easier to logistically.
Not saying that we couldn't, because like you said, the American public, for all intents and purposes, is not wanting to get involved in a war here.
So it would almost be like, oh, well, we're at war with Russia, but we're not going to send troops over there.
Don't worry, guys.
We're just going to.
Here's what's going to happen.
Pittsburgh is going to have a major
outage and there's going to be people screaming and rioting and the government's going to come
out joe biden's going to say a cyber attack launched from moscow took out a main water
reclamation plant in pittsburgh resulting in a loss of water for three million people
fema is responding immediately but my fellow amer Americans, this is an act of war.
Make no mistake. And I'm now
going to confer with my colleagues in Congress
or, you know, with members of Congress
as to the appropriate response to how the United States
deals with this overt act of war.
And then we're going to war. And then we're going to war.
And then you're going to have the media being like,
they killed people!
10,000 dead in
Pittsburgh and you're saying let them get away with it you love putin
it's it's it'll and it could even be worse than that they'll basically be chris christie all over
the news absolutely there will be an explosion and then they'll say that the russians have taken
credit for it that it was an attack on our infrastructure because because we we manufacture
a component in this area that was being used by the Ukrainians.
And then, you know, Russia is going to deny it.
And they're going to say, we know they did it.
And they're targeting us because we believe in freedom.
And then they're going to say, we have to stop this.
But it may even be worse than that.
I imagine that if they want us to go to war, you'd need something more substantive than 9-11.
What that would be, i don't know but
cutting off the water or blowing up some kind of refinery or some kind of cyber attack that
results in the deaths of several thousands yeah i'd have to kill a lot of people for sure what
several thousand people what if it's something like they're sending biden over there for peace
talks and he gets kidnapped or killed biden he. He's assassinated. Replace Biden and you get your war.
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Yeah, that's true.
Holy shit.
Although most of America would be like see you later pops
yeah you need you need large-scale death so so maybe aside maybe maybe biden's bidding uh here
you go biden goes to visit some kind of he's on the campaign trail visiting uh some union shop
and then something happens they blame on russia they could assassinate biden and blame it on russia that wouldn't be enough in conjunction with a nuclear i mean i'm just i don't even want
to say it because it's like what am i saying they could we would need mass death like those words
coming out of our mouths is not healthy so that's stupid but but being aware of false flags it's not
stupid it is the in order for the plan of've got to expose it, but don't become it. No one is doing that.
We're saying that's what they have to do.
It's what they would do and have done, and there's no reason they won't do it again.
And this idea that we better not just say it is stupid.
No, absolutely.
Just be careful with saying over and over again, we need mass death.
Be careful of saying that over and over again.
That's a ridiculous, weird, hippie notion.
Calling out the establishment because they engage in false flag
attacks like the gulf of tonkin and we so we all know about operation northwoods so right now we
know they want to escalate the war if it comes to it they will need u.s troops on the ground and the
only way to get that is if you get mass public support it's going to be incredibly fucking
difficult to pull off considering the culture wars especially with biden because he's not he's not convincing but so it's gonna have to be some kind of serious attack
like a pearl harbor you know i i mean i i don't know that i am uncomfortable saying that i wouldn't
put it past them but once you pointed that out like if they smoke biden right say we're gonna
get real conspiracy theory the the feds or the CIA decides they're going to smoke Biden, right?
They take care of the problem with Ukraine and his kid.
They take care of the problem of Biden.
I mean, he becomes a martyr.
No, he becomes a martyr.
Yeah.
He becomes a heroic image in history.
The Biden investigation no longer exists in the public space.
And Gavin Newsom can now run.
And then Kamala Harrisris was with biden
when the whole thing i think that's the plan is is gavin newsom and absolutely the shit out of me
but uh there now that we've kind of gone very deep on this one uh liam was that uh sufficient
oh absolutely um thank you all so much for having me on if i can just give a shout out i think you
all should have jb mccuskey on he He's West Virginia's auditor. He's running for
Attorney General. He'd be a great guest.
Right on, man. Also,
if y'all ever want to come to Marshall, I'm chair of
College Republicans there. We'd love to have
you. Word. We are Marshall.
That's cool. What is it?
Yes, sir. Yeah, we are Marshall.
That's good. I know.
Is that Ohio?
Marshall? West Virginia. All right, man. We'll take a look. Thanks for calling in. Thanks, dude. Thank you so much. it's good i know all right is that ohio marshall west virginia yeah all right man we'll uh we'll
take a look thanks for calling in thanks dude thank you so much all right next up we have
larkin larkin you are on the show mark and rose you must unmute yourself howdy howdy howdy
how's it going i really appreciate you guys having me me on. I had a question for Ian, because Ian, I couldn't disagree with you more, but I love you, man. And much when it came to the abortion question, right?
Like I used to be very libertarian on it.
And, you know, it's not really my position.
And who am I to say when life began?
And I used to be in the military and I was in I worked in intelligence.
And we used to do kind of like a fun thing on the weekends where we would do like debates.
And we would force each other to take like the opposite
opinion and i was talking to this guy and i heard my own argument coming from his mouth
and as i heard it like i it's something just clicked in me and i saw saw it as like and i'm
not saying anyone is evil but like the argument and the mindset in itself is evil and it was you know
like who can say when life begins so what does it matter you know why not just you know like who do
you know when life begins and so my question for you is is like for me my epiphany in that moment
was like if i can't say when life begins why would I possibly take the chance of killing a child?
And like being someone that grew up taking care of my little brothers and
stuff like that and being,
you know,
in the military stuff you,
you protect,
that's what a man does,
you know?
And I,
it completely changed that moment.
It absolutely changed my mind and how I view it.
And I was just wondering, does that argument make any sense to you? Uh, well, I, it completely changed that moment. It absolutely changed my mind and how I view it.
And I was just wondering, does that argument make any sense to you?
Well, I don't argue that it's not alive. Like sperm and egg are both alive. And I just don't think it's a human when it's in zygote form. That's about nine days. It takes a while for
it to start to develop into what we consider human. And like, yeah, not all life is sacred.
Well, you were in the military.
There's a time and a place for life.
There's time and a place for destruction of life to consume it, to survive.
You eat animal.
You destroy plants.
Hold on.
Let me finish.
I got you.
Sorry, I made a minute.
I'm sorry, what?
I was saying, I understand that argument.
It seems a little kind of somewhat misplaced. I understand I took fire friends of mine were buried you know and I returned fire and I never blamed
a lot of the people some of them that were doing it because like they didn't really have a choice
right and if I was them I'd be doing the same thing but it still doesn't mean I wouldn't there
is right and wrong I'm going to protect the people around me and i'll and i'll do what i have to do but as someone that recently i
never thought i would have kids i'm 37 i was single and then i met my wife and i kind of couldn't take
the chance to like have it uh to like just do the jump and now she's like the best thing that ever
happened to me i just had to let go of like and we have a kid
that's five months old and i could tell you every step of the way there's no freaking question
like every step of the way that like this is life you know what i'm saying and i understand
we all have our own way of looking at things and we have our own experiences uh for me if i'm looking at like i
said it's just like why would i take the chance even if you'd like you just don't think it's life
at all like at inception no it is alive when it's a sperm and it's not a human at inception
but is there a chance that it is and if it is why would you allow it i mean it's a psycho it's not a human uh all right the
i i'm i'm very pro-life and that's why i'm obsessed with revolutionizing our energy grid
people that say they're pro-life but they don't talk about actually fortifying our electrical
system but they the virtue signal about what some woman over there has to do, you want to protect her? You want to protect life? Protect the woman.
What?
So, Ian, the part that I have trouble with.
I just have a problem with that because that is just changing the subject.
What subject?
When you said no, if you're pro-life and you change, start talking.
You're changing the subject.
Yeah, but they don't think it's murder.
We talked about this last night for like an hour.
No, but the point that I'm making is I have a problem with saying that because you're you're changing
the subject to avoid the conversation the point that he's making is its life and the stuff that
you're saying like when you're like it's not a zygo it's not a human life it's human dna if you
don't if you like i get what you're saying about being like you know or i understand why people
could be pro-choice and stuff but i I just feel like... Let's try this.
What's a human?
There's a meme.
I'll answer your question.
There's a meme of
protect the baby in the womb.
Protect it.
Protect it.
Protect it.
And then as soon as the baby's born,
you're on your own, kid.
That's a meme about
the right-wing conservative movement.
That's not real.
That's not true.
That's a lie from leftists.
I mean, they don't want social...
They don't want social services
to protect the single mother.
Because social services
don't protect families.
They cause poverty and fatherlessness.
That's the argument that's made.
But in the womb.
But anyway, what's a human?
The idea that the only solution for helping a baby is for the government to take money from other people
and then put kids in state institutions makes no sense.
But anyway, define human so we can figure this one out.
I'll go with the definition of the dictionary.
I mean, I'd read it.
Look it up and read it if you want.
Do you know what it is i don't know it's fucking it's an animal from the hominid homo sapien how technical do you want to get if you don't have i mean you said a zygote is not a
human so i'm asking you what you think a human is it's an evolved hominid the most evolved hominid
that we know of so you're saying that primate genus homo especially a member of the species
homo sapiens distinguished from other apes by a large brain in the capacity for speech a person large brain
so no those little things in the womb don't have large brains that's what it said distinguished
by compared to the size of its body that's not what that says does it i mean what how
all right so my question is you it's like a like a dog like like a like a Like a turtle in an egg isn't a turtle.
Because a turtle is defined as like an amphibious reptilian,
an aquatic reptilian with two arms, two legs,
and it retracts into a shell.
So if the turtle is in the egg, it's not actually a turtle.
If a turtle is in an egg, it's a turtle,
because it's a turtle in an egg.
If it's a zygote in an egg, it's not a turtle yet.
Ian, I feel like you're playing Schrodinger's cat with life.
No, I think you're making excuses to justify a nonsensical position.
People are insane if they look at a zygote and say it's a human.
They're fucking insane.
Well, what else would it be?
Like, if you leave it alone, it is definitely going to become a human.
Maybe.
Why can't it be a human?
A baby born with no arms and no legs
is a human.
It's not going to be a refrigerator.
It might not survive at all.
A baby born with no arms and no legs
is a human.
Yeah, but a baby can't survive
outside of the womb.
A baby born with no arms and no legs
is a human.
Without him.
It is.
Yeah.
But humans have two arms and two legs
and this thing doesn't.
No, I don't think that was part of the definition.
You can have deformities and shit and still be a human.
So then what defines a human?
Phil just read the definition.
Large brain, hominid species.
A baby born with a diminished brain.
Not human?
When it says large brain, I want to point this out.
Ian needs to answer this.
There have been babies born with diminished brains.
If the human baby is born with deformities, then they're human.
But they're probably still human, like partway through.
I believe they become human at some point along the gestation process.
But if it doesn't have a large brain, you're saying it's not human?
When do you think they start to feel pain?
If it doesn't have a large brain, you think it's not human?
I don't know. I'd have to look into the science.
Is that what you're saying?
No.
But you just said a human is defined as having a large brain, right?
Yeah, it's part of Phil's definition.
Okay, so if there is a human, a baby is born, but it does not have a brain, is it human?
If it has no brain, it's not a human.
It's not a human.
It's a husk of a meat sack if it has no brain.
These things exist, you know, right?
There are babies that are born without brains.
Yeah, I would not consider that human, dude.
Which regulates the involuntary processes.
So then the question then becomes, do crusties so then the question then becomes do you think so the question then becomes do you think the physical mass of the brain or the conscious entity defines a human
i think both and if so so someone's body dies they're no longer a human so here's the issue
you're you're the issue i take is not whether or not you're right or wrong it's that you're not making any logic at all and i'll have a picture of a zygote and i'll explain do
that for a baby with born with nothing but a cerebellum can regulate its involuntary uh functions
it can breathe and it has a heartbeat and its eyes move around but doesn't have higher functions
you say that's clearly not a human you said no brain and i had a baby born with a cerebellum
that's part of the brain that means they have a brain. That's not a baby born with a cerebellum.
That's part of the brain.
That means they have a brain.
So I did say babies with a cerebellum can regulate.
Okay, so that is a human then.
Yeah, sounds like it, yeah.
So it has a small, so it's not a large brain though.
But you said a large brain.
That's what Phil read.
Okay, so do you agree it's a large brain or just some part of the brain? I think his point of it being relative to body mass is that what you were well the point is like when it says large brain like
the brain your brain is not large compared to the sun and that was the comparison you made earlier
but those zygotes don't have brains no but it's not taught the zygotes are they're building the
brain it's a diploid cell function it is building the brain it is becoming a human so is the sperm before impregnates
the egg like what's that is how how esoteric do you want to get it's dna man this is not
that's a good way to define it so and so when as soon as the as soon as you as soon as the the
sperm fertilizes the egg that's new dna independent from the the the DNA from the father and the mother. That's a human being.
That's a new human being.
That's a leap.
That's a leap of logic to say that it's mother DNA, father DNA, therefore it's a human.
No, no, no, no.
Mother DNA, father DNA, third new DNA.
Yes, that doesn't mean it's human.
That means it's human.
That's human DNA.
Can I just say that I hate this fucking debate so much.
Here's the issue.
Here's the issue.
There is a very simple and clear definition of human.
And it pertains to what Phil described.
A unique set of DNA of the hominid, whatever you want to, homo sapien order.
Your definition makes no sense.
And I'm not saying you are wrong about abortion i'm saying
when you say a zygote is not a human and i say what's a human you say i don't know i go okay
then how the fuck are you defining zygote human it has a brain it has a fucking heart it has fingers
if a human is born with no brain and they're okay i already answered this question it's not human if
it doesn't have a brain dude so then so then what makes a human who is a full adult consciousness okay so when someone goes in a coma they're not human
anymore yes they're human in a coma but they don't have a brain and no consciousness if they have no
brain then they're no longer fucking human what about when you go to sleep and you're not conscious
you're still a human you're a sleeping human but you just said it's not just consciousness that's
part of the definition of being human. Okay.
There are babies born with what they describe as not having a brain.
And it has a brain stem which can regulate involuntary functions.
You are saying that is not human.
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If it has a brain, cerebellum, is that what you're talking about?
No.
Brain stem, cerebellum?
A brain stem, not a brain.
Like, what do they have?
You pull it up.
Let's define it.
Let's look into it.
I fucking hate this debate so bad.
Me too, man. man people they look at a
fucking die plate cell and they're like that's a human i'm like what in the fuck world has this
come to anencephaly a serious birth defect in which a baby is born without parts of the brain
and okay they still have some brain that's still human if you have no brain you're dead you're not
there are many babies that are born blood through a piece of meat but what the fuck
okay i'll just i'll just simplify this and we'll wrap it up. Yeah, humans are still humans.
Phil has a very simple definition.
A new set of DNA of the genus whatever, homo sapien, et cetera.
It's human DNA.
Okay, and there is a living structure that is growing.
Ian, your definition is just a bunch of random hodgepodge that doesn't make any sense.
High intelligence, bipedalism, hairlessness.
These zygotes don't have that shit.
Neither do people with alopecia. intelligence bipedalism hairlessness these these zygotes don't have that shit neither do neither
do people with alopecia neither do neither do people with with serious birth defects you cannot
define human based on anomalous developments within the human race and you cannot define
human based on chosen characteristics that you deem worthy i'm pulling from the definition
cognitive skills that enable them to thrive cognitive skills zygotes don't have those yet i mean none of this makes it's a developing human that will have all of those things we already
talked about those things you can take a male and a female and fucking tweak the genes in her
her little zygote and turn into a non-human and ian the problem with your with your with your
worldview is that if you can kill a zygote you can can kill a retard. That's a horrible thing to say.
Yeah, well, that's your fucking belief.
No, it's not.
Yes, it is.
No, it's not.
You sit here and said that a baby born with anencephaly
is not a human.
No, you said a baby born without a brain.
Ian, you're qualifying who gets to qualify.
You're making qualifiers as to who is and is not a human.
And you're still talking about human beings, human DNA, human children.
All of the things that you're talking about come from humans.
They're all biological matter that comes from human beings.
They all have chromosomes.
They all have DNA.
They're all things that come from humans.
They're all.
It's all just be a little more responsible with who you have sex with.
That's not the kind of again that's changing the subject the issue that i'm that i'm
looking to answer is the question of human rights and when does the government have the right to
determine someone does or does not have rights so that's why we need to have a very clear set
definition this is not an argument about abortion in any capacity life begins at conception that's
when a unique set of human DNA is created
and begins to grow. It doesn't matter if you can think, feel, smell, fart, shit, or otherwise,
because there are some people who can't, some people who can. There are some people who can
jump real high, some people can't jump. Some people are born and they're fucking retarded.
Some people are super smart. Some people have no legs. Some people have heads. We don't define
what grants you human rights based on if you were born with the right amount of arms, eyes, ears, face, or otherwise.
So, what I say is, looking at the issue of abortion, because this is where it arises, my position is simple.
The government does not have the right to mandate one person provide their body to another.
End of story.
Now, in the event that a woman grants a man the right to inseminate her, resulting in another human now being
attached to her body.
That was a choice she made to allow that.
And now she is obligated to not terminate because she welcomed that in.
In the instance of rape, I believe the government has no authority to mandate a woman carry
the baby, even though the baby is a unique human life that does have human rights, as
defined by 30 states, which if you kill the woman and the baby dies,
it's a double homicide.
To say something like,
whether you're smart
or have a brain
or have arms
or are bipedal,
that's what makes you human,
is the justification
for eugenics and genocide.
Always have.
Yeah.
That's the big problem
is when you're making
a qualifier about this person,
this isn't a person
and that is a person
and this entity doesn't qualify because they don't have when you're making a qualifier about this person, this isn't a person. And that is a person. And this, this,
you know,
entity doesn't qualify because they don't have these arbitrary features or
whatever.
They don't like all of that stuff.
That's the same kind of idea that justified killing off thousands and,
or tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of people in,
in Nazi Germany.
It's,
it's,
it is saying that these entities
do not get personhood status.
And once you start doing that,
it's like, well, you know,
the zygotes don't,
and then the people that are mentally deficient don't,
and then the people that are blah, blah, blah.
That's all eugenics.
It all leads down to a path of devaluing human life.
All of it.
I'm not going to say you're wrong i don't
know if you're right or if you're wrong but killing a zygote that early in the process of
pregnancy two days a day after the impregnation is vastly different than eugenics no it's not
i mean if a woman wants to terminate a one-day-old zygote. Look, I'm pro-choice up to the end of the first trimester.
But my issue right now is the way you're articulating it.
Because like I said, I'm pro-choice up to the end of the first trimester.
I think that the fetus is not cognizant yet.
It doesn't experience the way that a developed human being experiences and the
the the fetus is not viable at like you know 10 weeks or whatever so that's where you can have
a reasonable in my opinion where you can reasonably say this is moral to end we definitely
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Welcome to the show.
Fitting.
Great.
Here we go.
Hey, guys.
Thanks for having me on.
Ian, I'm very glad that your mother was pro-life.
It's good to have you on the planet, buddy.
She's pro-choice.
My question is for the panel.
I'm in emerging technologies and wanted to ask what everybody thought about the idea of if we were able to get off a oil economy into something
else something other than electric how do you think that would change the political equation
but what do you mean something other than electric like steam powered cars well
like for instance no um the project i'm working on would be the first hydrocarbon
that could go toe-to-toe with electric cars in california okay like an alternate fuel similar
to like porsche yeah like porsche's e-fuel would be similar to it if we could make an engine that
could run gasoline and hydrogen.
Did he bring up getting off the OPEC dollar, too?
Is that what he said?
He didn't say anything about that?
Well, I'm thinking in terms of the subject line of the game of money.
Yeah, because they were talking about the petrodollar.
Yeah, I thought he brought up the petrodollar in the beginning.
Yeah, I mean, that would be really interesting.
I think it's probably one of the reasons why the U.S. does not want alternate forms
of energy because of the petrodollar.
I'm working with
an economist on this for my campaign who's
come up with this great scheme
of, he's mapped
it all out. It would only take 40
Gen 4
reactors to power the entire country.
Nuclear reactors? Yeah. Wow.
They're small, They're very safe.
They have a way to burn all the waste very easily and actually turn it back into energy.
Is he talking thorium or is he talking plutonium?
I think it's plutonium.
But anyways, he's come up with something that he calls the kilowatt dollar.
And essentially the way that this would work is we'd be making first of all our energy
would be pennies on the dollar but this energy would be so abundant that we could actually put
them in batteries and sell battery banks to other countries and our our dollar would be backed off
that what he calls a kilowatt those nuclear waste batteries are pretty great the problem is the
storage when it comes to vehicles you can't get the energy density high enough.
Right, in a vehicle.
Solid-state batteries?
Actually, mechanical storage is probably one of the better options.
But, for instance, the fuel I'm working on would be a green fuel
that would be three to five times more efficient than gas or diesel
with a similar energy density.
Wow.
Have you guys seen air batteries?
I haven't seen those yet.
I've seen them at airports and train stations.
How do they work?
You compress air into a liquid, and then you can release it later to spin a turbine.
Oh, it just evaporates as soon as you
expose it to the pressure density as soon as you release the valve the pressure forces the air out
at a slow rate spinning turbines does it just take a lot of energy to compress it
it takes uh so the idea is that they would use solar power or some uh uh i forgot what they
called it but there's ways to actually manipulate atmospheric
energy to induce the to store the energy to induce the compression and then store liquid air whoa and
then they use the release of liquid air as it uh it rapidly cools i think it's what i mean yeah
it rapidly cools as the gas is being released right which spins a turbine and causes you know
another effect.
There's a really great little mini video
I watched explaining how they do air compression batteries.
That pressure change probably generates heat, too.
At least a little bit.
The pressure change absorbs heat.
The liquefied air
has to absorb ambient energy.
The heat is being carried when you compress it.
Yeah, right.
When it's being compressed, the heat comes out.
They use that heat for one process. It's a crazy crazy way to store energy but it's brilliant question for you me on plan b oh oh i got it i remember they were talking about how to store
energy for um solar and they said what would happen is that if the grid was ever at peak
capacity excess solar would be would uh compress air into liquid air tanks.
Did you see the tweet that I pinned on my Twitter profile?
It's James Tour from Rice University talking about how they're converting, I think it's methane, into hydrogen fuel.
Unfortunately, unless your Twitter comes across my Gmail, I don't see it.
I tried to talk to you about graphene about two years ago.
Yeah, check out James Tour's breakthrough with hydrogen fuel because they're
able to flash
carbon-based plastics and stuff
and get...
Yeah, and the stuff that I've been working on,
they've had viable
hydrogen cells ready to go.
But the people that
held the patents would not work
with the big three.
My long-term investor
knows people.
Hit up James
Tour. He's very interactive. You can email
him. We got to jump to these other callers.
Is there anything else you wanted to wrap up on?
Thanks for your time, guys.
We already talked about pizza, so I ain't worried.
Right on, man.
Thanks for calling in. already talked about pizza, so I ain't worried. Right on, man. Pizza? Thanks for calling in.
I'm ready.
Yeah, Giordano's or Gino's?
Oh, I've never had either one.
Patrick from Ohio.
Oh, come on.
Chicago deep dish?
Yeah, I don't know.
It's so much cheese.
Oh, you know, I did have Gino's while I was there in Chicago.
It's good.
There you go.
Right.
Patrick, what's up?
Nothing much.
How are you guys doing?
Pretty good.
Chilling. Thanks for taking my go. Right. Patrick, what's up? Nothing much. How are you guys doing? Pretty good. Chilling.
Thanks for taking my question.
Absolutely.
For Joshua Smith, I wanted to talk about his candidacy for libertarian president.
I typically vote libertarian.
And in 2016, my 90-year-old grandmother and myself also voted for gary johnson so we had a span of quite a few years
between the 30 some odd old me and my 90s year old grandmother so what's your strategy to unite
these generations and gain their votes to break that five percent target question well i think i
think that we brought it up in the in the original show but you know we got to fight the culture war
i think it's really really important that we're, uh,
brazen,
brash,
brave,
principled campaign and not one that like,
you know,
just kind of capitulates on principle to try and win over the,
you know,
the Republicans and Democrats.
I think,
you know,
unfortunately,
like I said,
in my campaign video at the top of my,
uh,
at the top of my Twitter,
if you check it out,
a very,
a very large percentage of the, of top of my uh at the top of my twitter if you check it out a very little a very large percentage of the of of uh people in the united states did not vote for a presidential
candidate in 2020 or 2020 and 2016 we're talking one year it was more one year was more than half
one year it was around half and uh um we had to find a way to ignite those people because we're
not going to get the sycophants from the republicans yeah we're not going to get the sycophants from the Republicans. Yeah, we're not going to get the sycophants
from the Republicans and the Democrats.
So really, I think that five is a low,
I think for me it's a low goal.
I want 10,
but I think five is an attainable goal
for the Libertarian.
It changes, like I said,
it changes the political landscape
in the United States forever.
How do you convince Democrats
or maybe moderate Democrats
to vote Libertarian?
You don't.
You think there's no way
you think it's an absolute losing battle they'll never moderate libertarian yeah what do you mean
just i mean i think that you got to try somehow well that's what chase oliver is doing right now
the other candidate from atlanta who's all about like oh yeah no dude it's totally fine to bring
your kids to these uh you know gay men shaking their butts in the street stuff and what the
other libertarian candidates doing that yeah yes holy fuck yeah what they're progressives in the libertarian party spike also supported it
when he was running for vice president at all he has recanted though because he there was a lot
there was stuff that he wasn't he was yeah jorgensen said we what was it it's not enough
to not be racist you have to be actively and i thought it was really funny the libertarian
party telling me what i must do right no no i'll say it's a problem that's my i'm not going after the
democrats because listen the democrats would put all libertarians up against the wall if they got
the opportunity hands down 100 i know i'm not uh i am not a stupid libertarian i'm not an idealistic
libertarian i know who our base is and i'm going after our base i'm trying to get them fired up on
the ideas of ron paul basically it's the ron paul revolution and i'm trying after our base. I'm trying to get them fired up on the ideas of Ron Paul, basically.
It's the Ron Paul revolution, and I'm trying to revive it.
That's really what it is.
And if you're not going to do that, don't run as a libertarian.
Right on.
Did you want to add any more, Patrick?
No, I just wanted to shout out that this Discord community is great, Tim.
Thank you so much for getting this together.
We've had so many great conversations, and we're setting up so many events,
and we're getting engagement left and right.
So just remember, please check out the events and uh try to participate in some of the after dark and other
shows there's a lot of people out here with their opinion right now man thanks for calling in hardcore
all right and last but not least we got rogue rogue z350 what up you're muted right here hello
rogue you're in stealth i think you're on mute your mic rogue must have fallen asleep Z350. What up? You're muted, Rogue. Hello, Rogue.
You're in stealth.
Rogue must have fallen asleep.
Oh, there you go.
Can you hear me? Yes, sir.
Okay, my emoji disappeared, so I thought I was off.
Ruh-roh.
Thanks for taking my call, guys.
I'll try and make it quick.
So, I grew up thinking we should
allow everybody to do what they're gonna do you know we have freedom allow them to do what they
want to make their lives happy but it's gotten to the point where i think this country is pushing that so far that our moral our morals are degrading to the point where it's
pushing our society in a negative direction where do we draw the line between allowing people to
have freedom but also you know making them think of things that should cause a little bit of shame
so that we keep our societal fabric together.
That's just how we keep on without going into tyranny.
Well, that's just it.
It's freedom plus shame.
As Ron Paul said, abortion should not be illegal.
It should be unthinkable.
So we can tell people you can do
what you want but if people find out then you you might as well leave town because no one's
going to want to work with you or be near you or be around you and that's that's the cultural
element of this there would the the fact is our culture has been destroyed and completely
evaporated that's why you have laws like you wouldn't need laws if everyone agreed on the
basic premise and rules of their
civilization but society gets really really big culture breaks down and then people are forced
into living next to each other because there's an overarching monopoly on violence that tells
them what they can and can't do we got to stop using the fucking term normalize legitimately
please stop using that term we're we're not just we're not just in a culture war. We're also in a moral war.
Yeah.
100%.
And when we're like, oh, well, we just need to normalize sex work.
No, the fuck we don't.
There's no reason for it to be normalized.
There's a reason why it's not normal.
And here's the thing.
The only reason people advocate for normalizing sex work is because they want to do sex work.
Yeah, of course.
Or watch it.
Or they want to engage it.
But if you eliminate
sex work from the economy,
then no one's advocating for it.
People who are engaged
in sex work
should have other means
of generating income.
Yes.
It's a cultural problem.
Onlyfans.
Yeah, stop saying
normalize.
Stop fucking saying normalize.
Stop normalizing shit.
We don't have to normalize shit
that's not supposed
to be normal. It can be legal, but shame the fuck out of them what about only fans shame
them i shame every only fans girl did you see my tweet uh was it about the ceo making a million a
day oh yeah yeah i wanted to talk about that because i didn't agree with it well so what
really happened was i said to fresh and fit you guys are complaining about women sleeping around tons of
guys if you have a problem with it then start shaming them right but what happens is the leftists
because they're grifters took the clip out of context so it's me just saying a guy pulls up
in a bugatti he should look to the one say what's your body count and if she says you know what the
fuck fuck you he says fuck i want to hone my car okay what i actually said was why i said i literally said you guys why don't you do that they were like women be sleeping with 50
guys so guys got to be prepared and sleep with 50 women and i said well why don't you as high
value men just shame the women then right if that's your argument and they turned it into
so my response to them because they're pieces of shit was all these you know people are saying are
mad at me for saying that should slut shame sluts.
Why the fuck would I care what these sluts think?
Proving a point.
They got so fucking angry about being called sluts.
One woman, she was like, Tim Pool's got a small dick.
And it's like, lady, clearly you're upset that you're a slut.
This is the issue.
If you come to me and you said tim you're fucking bald i go
yes that's true i am i wear a beanie and they're gonna be like yeah well you got nasty ass fucked
up crooked teeth i'm like yeah they've been crooked my whole life i'm actually genetically
missing a tooth and they'll be like well fuck you i'm like bro you're not making me mad by saying
things i know right but when you say women are sluts and they get really really angry it's because
deep down there is shame in being a slut and they know it it's not that deep down that's why the
anger comes out so easily very easily yeah yeah so it's because like put back into the just do it
just shame people it's it's it's the same thing with being fat it's the same thing with being fat. It's the same thing with morbid obesity. There is a problem we all recognize with overt promiscuity.
We can easily simplify STDs and overeating.
You die.
You get cancer.
You get heart problems.
You get high cholesterol.
You die.
So people know they're doing something bad, but it feels good.
And you say, I am not going to sit here and compliment you as you
fuck your life up and they get angry but when you shame and you want to introduce shame into
our culture you want to do it subversively because if it's an angry guy yelling at people
you're bad you're wrong they're gonna reject it and get angry but if you put it in a movie
where the villain has that ass attribute you realize little kids will see it and they'll be
like i don't they'll be like,
I don't want to be like that.
But also tell your fat friends they're fat.
Shouldn't, isn't it better to articulate why it's a bad idea
than to try to be subversive?
Because subversive implies
not letting people know what you're doing.
Ian's only wrong on the first half.
It's true about our cultural,
our films, our music, and our movies
are influencing children.
Subversively, that's what I meant.
And it is more effective to have a villain be like,
I'm going to destroy the world and have tons of sex while eating Krispy Kremes.
I don't want to be like that.
That's true.
But also, I think it is good to literally say something like,
hey, I'm not interested in working with you because you're a prostitute.
By all means, you go do your thing and live how you want to live. I will have no
part in it. Personally, I have
way, way more of a problem
with the sleuths than with prostitutes.
If you're just giving it away
and you're banging dudes,
those are the ones that are spreading diseases.
Those are the ones that are
out there ruining people's lives.
If you're actually a sex worker, do your thing,
get your bag. If you're a sleut, just tossing it around,
then you should probably put a dime in between your knees
and keep it there.
But did you always feel like that as a rock star?
I don't know a lot about you personally.
You don't have to talk about it,
but did you fuck tons of chicks?
Were you just like, whatever, let's just bang for 20 years?
So there was a time in my life when I was more adventurous.
Answer the question, Phil. Come on, we don't. But the thing is- No one's going to believe that I was a time in my life when I was more adventurous. Answer the question, Phil.
Come on.
We don't.
But the thing is...
No one's going to believe that a rock star is passing it up.
There's a reason that I'm not big on the slut shaming and giving sex workers trash and blah, blah, blah.
Because I am in no position to actually judge someone else.
My life up until I quit drinking was different.
So I'm in no position to be like,
Oh,
that person's bad or blah,
blah,
blah,
or,
or cast judgment on someone.
Do your thing.
It is a good idea to practice monogamy and to try to date with intent.
Like if you're dating,
it's a good idea to date with intent.
Like I get it.
There are people that are young that are going to go out and, you know, they think it's a good idea to go party and stuff.
And fair enough if you want, fine.
I don't think it's a problem.
But I think that it's something that we should not.
And we should not as a society be like this is how you want to live your life.
It is a problem.
As a society. want to live your life it is a problem as society and you know like growing up in chicago my
upbringing was fucking sex positive liberal across the board everyone's banging each other everyone's
doing crazy as shit tons of drugs all over the place obama's smoking crack and having gay sex
exactly and it's a problem that it got to this point where young people are like it's totally
fine if we go out and do this because now in brooklyn you have super chlamydia yeah have you guys heard about no i'm gonna get rid of it can't
get rid of it yeah incurable onion garlic red wine you're gonna have to do some old school shit
you're gonna have to go to the old they're they're like apparently the antibiotics aren't working
anymore yeah because what's happening is these people in in williamsburg in brooklyn they they'll
have sex get it spread it to somebody else.
Then one guy goes, fuck, my dick hurts.
He goes to the doctor.
The doctor says, take this medication.
Don't have sex until you've completely finished it.
And then you come back and get tested again to make sure it's gone.
And they go, you got it, doc.
And then once they got halfway through whatever their bottle or whatever their prescription is, they start banging again.
And now it's a more resistant strain that's spreading it's literally super fucking chlamydia spreading
that's a problem this guy james tour the scientist is graphene scientist talks about that he talks
about his fear of antibiotic resistance viruses as one of the biggest threats well we already have
bacterias that are very very antibiotic resistant like methyl and resistant uh staphylococcus or kills people
every year so there's nothing we can do about it i'm gonna have to put a hard stop in rogue
did you want to do any final thoughts because we're way over
didn't fulfill but i'll just make it a statement i guess um i don't know if you're a fan of or know
much about them but if you would, check out 21 Pilots Lore
from their second album on.
It's all a story,
and it's fairly relevant
to our times today.
It's called Lore?
I know what he's talking about.
I can remind you later.
Awesome.
It's very relevant
to everything that's going on today okay and they've been writing
this 10 years awesome thank you man thanks for calling in thank you thanks for all guys
cheers yeah dude all right uh that was a fun one huh uh josh thanks for hanging out it's been a
blast yeah of course man i had a good time too i i didn't tell people about my show earlier but
tell us i i do have a show called break the cycle with joshua smith if anybody ever wants to check it out we're uh live on thursday evenings
when will we know if you're the uh candidate may of 20 uh may of next year is our our nominating
convention so okay i've got a lot of time where do people see your show uh on youtube if you if
you look up youtube.com backslash fight the despots it'll take you right to my my show but we're also on uh
rumble and odyssey and uh bit shoot and some other ones too but right on man thanks for
hanging out it's been a blast no i had a blast thanks for having me and uh thank you guys for
being members and keeping this thing going and i'm it's it's so cool what you guys are doing in
the discord server and building it up and making a community it's the coolest shit ever so thank
you guys so much and we'll see you all tomorrow