Timcast IRL - Sunday Uncensored: Katy Faust Members Only Podcast

Episode Date: September 17, 2023

Tim & Co join Katy Faust for a spicy bonus segment usually only available on Timcast.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to our special weekend show, Sunday Uncensored. Every week we produce four uncensored episodes of the TimCast IRL podcast exclusively at TimCast.com and we're going to bring you the most important for our weekend show. If you want to check out more segments just like this, become a member at TimCast.com. Now enjoy the show. Welcome to the show. past couple of days it's really annoying so what happens is when we start the live stream we actually can't see if we're live or not for a long time and so that means like the it's weird well we just waited like three or four minutes with the stream going like and nothing was responding so i don't know whatever it is what it is i i love the rumble guys they're making things

better and better and better but i just wanted to let you guys know the reason why it's uh took a few minutes longer is because they're probably working on make it better so it is what it is but let's talk about this um during the main show uh katie you mentioned that your liberal friends have no kids and your conservative friends have 12 up to i know i know i'm taking the experiments but no i really do have friends with 12 kids yeah we we we've talked about this quite a bit uh in the 2000s, there was a study that said liberals were having, I think, 1.5 kids

and conservatives are having 2.03 kids. Now, we see the Pew research from a few years ago showing that while Gen Z is almost identical to millennials politically, in some areas, they actually tick

slightly more conservative. And I think that's probably because You're now seeing the first wave of conservatives that are very serious about training other kids if you have if liberals have 100 kids and conservatives have 150 kids and then indoctrination stuff is influential you'll end up with 110 liberal liberal adults and 140 conservative adults like there will be some pull in the other direction we can expect if if we expect that but conservatives will have an edge just because they're making more people yeah well and i will say that something has happened among conservative

parents even in the last 10 years which is where like uh they were like well it's okay like i'm going to be able to net and now conservative parents are like, it's war. I know it. And I'm going to get my kids. So like we there really has been, you know, a red pill. I mean, even among kind of nonpolitical adult, the culture has gone that crazy that it has radicalized a lot of ordinary parents to say, I'm going to get very, very serious about either homeschooling, pulling them out or just, you know, moving, leaving the state.

I mean, like there has been an exodus from, I say like not through the Red Sea, but to the red states. There has been an exodus, right? We have people call in on occasion saying, I want to leave where I am to be in a different state. I was going to ask. Well, I want to, sorry, just to address that. There was a story that I read.

I don't want to move on from the subject, keep put it put a pin in that there was a story a guy wrote that his daughter was trans that the school kept telling her she was a boy changed her pronouns cut her hair she was depressed she attempted suicide and so uh he moved her out of the state to a rural area and she meet within a few months she was totally better yes yeah one of one of the stories uh similar one was a guy saying that when his school came to him and said that his daughter was trans he he immediately agreed completely and was like really he's like okay let me know what i need to do this is gonna we're gonna make sure we affirm her and keep her safe and then a couple weeks later he went to the school and said jobs transfer in me i really do appreciate all your

help we'll make sure she gets her treatment move to the school and said, jobs transferring me. I really do appreciate all your help. We'll make sure she gets her treatment. Move to the middle of nowhere. Cured. Yeah. No, I have had friends whose kids have come out as trans or had very serious issues. The state is not on your, I mean, in Washington state, it's not. They're not on your side.

And they have left the state because they could lose their kid. Yeah. It's dangerous. Yeah. They'll sterilize your kid. They could. But if you want to. Oh, yeah. I was just going to ask, because you mentioned before that you encourage people to have people

who are slightly ahead of them in parenting. Yes. Who was that for you? And also, what do you advice to give to parents when you are that person for them? Yeah. Oh, so you find them. We actually chose our house because it was a couple of houses down from a mom that I admired and she had kids that were a little older than my kids.

And I thought, I just want to watch her. I mean, that was one of the reasons why we chose our house. So go to church, find the people, right? Do this with your marriage too. Like my husband and I both came from divorced homes and we didn't know what it looked like to work through problems and have healthy disagreements and be faithful to one another in the midst of challenges. And so the church discipled us. I mean, when we got married, they were like, well, what's marriage gonna... I'm like, I don't care. He's totally hot.

Everything's gonna be okay. I was like, we were idiots. We were total idiots. How old were you when you got married? 22. Yeah, so you were like, it doesn't matter. And we'd never seen it modeled for us. And so we needed the church to show us how.

So do it with marriage, do it with parenting, find people you admire who have worked through the issues. And all serious, don't listen to people that tell you that you need 50 body counts before you should. Oh my God.

Yeah. I got lots of issues with the single people online giving relationship advice. So that's right. Don't listen to relationship advice from people

that have not built, maintained thriving marriages and have kids that you admire. It's crazy to me that people have been able to make a career single guys and women.

Well, Esther Peral, the divorce therapist, she is one of the top podcasts that people go to and you want to be like, not that your heart is not in the right place, but if you don't have

the outcome that I'm looking for, why would I take your instruction manual? To be fair, I often look to the people who lost their sporting events for the best advice, you know, instead of going to the people who are currently winning. Losing love, it does wake you up to what not to do.

That's for sure. I've been through that. I know how not to fuck it up. You know, I think it's actually really simple. I think that human pair bonding typically occurs in younger ages than we actually expect. And so this is like high school age into college is when you are high school sweetheart, you date, you're older, then you get married. And what happens is if you are 18

and you are in a relationship, that is a tiny portion of your life. And if you remain in that relationship and get married by the time you're in your 30s, half your life is built with and around this person. You share so much. You experience a lot of the same things. You have so much in common. What's happening now is they're saying, fuck around, do whatever the fuck you want.

And now you've got 30-year-old women being like, I can't find a husband or someone to be with me and men as well. And it's like, well, yeah, your whole life is this track. His whole life is this track and they are incongruous. So this is cornerstone versus capstone marriage. Okay. So we used to have cornerstone marriages where you would meet when you were 18, date for a while, get married when you're 20, 22, 24. And it was the cornerstone of your life. And then you would build around that cornerstone together. You'd form a foundation together and you would build your home together now i mean sorry fit and fresh fresh and fit fresh and fit you know they were saying don't do that first build your career like like get your dating prowess on get enough money so they're thinking about

marriage as a capstone right first i'm going to put my life in place and then I'm going to ding, put a cherry on top. Like you said, Tim, that's not how we're wired. That's not how our bodies are wired. And if you are going to hit all the body counts, you know what the good dad that he was debating against, he was talking about sort of the chemicals. He was awesome. That's the kind of guy that you should follow. And what he was talking about is you can't mess around, especially with sex, without it chemically impacting you, right? You can't hug for more than 20 seconds without increasing oxytocin levels in your body. That is a chemical response that is conditioning you that is going to develop pathways for future behavior. So if you are doing that, especially with sex, which disproportionately it affects women more, right, that oxytocin, both men and women have the oxytocin release.

Men's testosterone dampens it. Estrogen levels in women increase it. Women are more likely to feel connected. They have to kill that connection to be, you know, the feminized icon. Part of hookup culture. Yeah, part of hookup culture. But they have to kill a big part of themselves to do that so you really are you really are messing with your chemical wiring and your emotional wiring if you think that you're going to and they're like we'll test drive the car right

that was their big analogy test drive the car no like the more you hook up and the more you shack up the less likely that marriage that relationship is to lead to marriage the more likely it is to break up if it leads to marriage well i'll tell you this uh when chelsea handler made that video about how she wakes up at six in the morning smokes pot masturbates and goes back to bed you had a bunch of conservatives being like you know ben shapiro was like that woman is miserable she's miserable absolutely miserable and i was like no she's not, you could make the argument fine, but in her mind, in her world, I'm pretty sure smoking pot, doing drugs and masturbating feels pretty good.

Happiness is different than fulfillment. However, when she's in the hospital after suffering a sudden cardiac event and the doctor comes in and says, I'm sorry, Ms. Handler, there's nothing we can do. Is there anyone we should call? She's going to go, no. She's going to say, well, okay, we're here if you need us.

And then she's going to be sitting in this sterile room, staring at a dark blue wall, just thinking nothing, alone, fading out of existence. The thing about marriage and children is it is high investment in the short term. Well, it takes a while, right? But it is. investment in the short term well it takes a while right but it is it is costly right to commit to one person to and to have to bear children have children raise children it is high investment it does cost you something but the long-term return what if those kids become hollywood movie stars well what if your kids are just awesome teenagers

like mine who are you, soccer stars and raising chickens and, you know, drawing. Raising chickens. Yes. That's my language. Yes. No, well, and that's what happened. The pandemic happened and my daughter was like,

I want chickens. I'm like, fine, you're going to be home all day. So we got chickens. Typical. I think this happened to you. She like hand selected nine chicks, her precious chicks, and five of them were roosters. Oh, wow.

Five. So she is like a frontier woman, so she learned to slaughter them. We're like, we've got to take care of this. She's like a frontier woman. How old is this person? She was 14 when we got him.

She's a frontier woman. That's amazing. And raised in Seattle, our frontier woman. Oh my gosh, we were so over the limit of number of chickens you could have in your yard.

The fact that there's even a limit, gross. We were, they shut the bridge down to harper's ferry basically to west virginia and it's fucked everything up yeah i tried the detour holy shit it was like two miles of cars not moving it's crazy rural back road anyway though as we were sitting there in traffic not moving for 10 minutes i looked to my right and there were just chickens along the side of the road and it was because the person who lived there just opens the door

that's the chickens go do their thing. It's whatever. Yeah. Chicken life. Chicken life. Why do they cross the road? They don't. They actually never will.

Because the bridge is closed. Yeah. They're desperate to get somewhere. But what were we just talking about before chickens took over the conversation? Jason Howerton. That's the guy that was on the Fresh and Fit podcast that was dropping the mad dad knowledge. The dad knowledge. I read, I listened to this um uh do you

know mpr is a hidden brain they do the sociology podcast they had an episode on and i listened to a long time ago talking about parenting and saying their different styles but one of the things i found most interesting was uh someone who's on made the observation that uh and i think this applies to you because you are writing a parenting book that parenting books uh exist in the modern culture because we left a culture where you were around younger children you're around yeah especially because birth control right people had fewer children so you're not seeing your younger siblings being raised you're maybe not around nieces and nephews as much as people would have been and we have a more transient culture you're not necessarily raising them in a a compound right with this extended family town where you grew up, yeah.

Right, right, right. And so you don't have the aunts around you, the grandmas, the cousins, all of that. And I mean, you listen to people who maybe had one or two siblings when they were growing up. I think most of us grew up in the era where there was like two parents. Sorry, two kids. A lot of people don't hold babies and they're not around babies a lot anymore. And so then you have babies and you're like, I don't really know how to do this. I know multiple men who have told me the first diaper they ever changed was their own child

like they had never interacted with an infant like that before they'd never been caring for one like that oh i don't even like holding other people's babies yeah they cry because you think you're gonna drop them or like what's the fear uh it's a it's a tremendous amount of responsibility for the most important thing in that person's life yeah that's true and there people will be like hold my baby and i'm like it is the most important thing in the world to you and i cannot have that responsibility in my hands i'm sorry we'll sit on the floor with them then yeah that's fine like i like kids are awesome yeah and it's fun to teach kids and stuff like that but like i don't i oh man it would be like a nightmare scenario to screw up holding someone's

baby yeah and you know what dads don't hold them anyway. They toss them. That's right. You throw them in the air. Yeah, Bill was holding his daughter on his knee and she was like bending. And Allie was like, what are you doing? He's like, it's okay. And she was like just stretching like full. It is okay. Yeah, it is okay.

Do you find that with your liberal friends, there is a fear of having children or does it lean more selfish? Because I think there are a lot of people who are fearful, I'm going to mess it up i i'm not with the right person like they haven't either reached the capstone or there's some internal fear of children no not as much fear more selfishness some of that is like i don't want this to interrupt but a lot of it really is this is not good for the planet like this is bad for the and i'm like and do you think that's

seattle specific or do you think that's no i think that's liberal wide um but this is bad for the planet and they're like overpopulation i'm like over what are you talking about that is so like And do you think that's Seattle specific or do you think that's liberal? No, I think that's liberal wide, that this is bad for the planet. And they're like overpopulation. I'm like, over? What are you talking about? That is so like a 30-year-old narrative. We are heading for a demographic winter. Do you understand? Like some, South Korea probably will not be able to pull themselves out of it.

Japan is better. They were there at 9.91. South Korea shocked everybody, came in at point seven nine and so that is actually a population uh trajectory that that they really may not be able to reverse like we were talking about the elimination of nations well yeah but like i don't really care that liberals aren't having kids well i will tell you the whole ideology is an anti-life yeah i agree and so they're sterilizing aborting and just outright not having kids and my attitude is i'm not a conservative i am not one of these like oh these poor people are so misled and i'm i'm more libertarian so i'm like guys uh they can live the life they want to live and wake up at six in the morning do drugs and masturbate and then in 20 years they

won't exist anymore and it will just be you so you know what you know what it takes to be a conservative these days is living in reality. Oh, I know, I know. You recognize, that's why we call our book Raising Conservative Kids in a Woke City, Teaching Economic, Biological, and Historical Reality. That is literally what it means to be a conservative. So you're a conservative, Tim, welcome.

No, I agree. I think at this point, conservative means fact-based and liberal means cult-based. That's just i because they're like you know far right to implore them like the headlines someone mentioned this earlier in the super chat that media biased fact check it's a website calls us like far right almost extreme right and if you look at our headlines to articles it's like you know impeachment inquiry opened to joe biden and then you look at the daily mail and it's like hunter biden smokes crack buys gun caught lying and it's it's like okay you know whatever i'll

spice up my headlines tim i promise but you know they they actually i would say a lot of the outlets have slowly stopped doing that because it's this weird thing that doesn't work anymore accusing someone being far right but they will call timcast irl a conservative or or right-wing podcast and i'm just like that just proves they've never seen it. Yeah, for sure. They've never watched a single episode. And it's this simple. Joe Biden did commit crimes. Period. End of story.

Have a nice day. They don't believe these things. They don't investigate these things. And pointing out facts is conservative. It's not about what your politics are. Allegedly. It's reality. They call Jimmy Dore far-rightimmy dore is an outright socialist we talk about the topics that the far right talks about but it's not a far right fucking like no it's a far right on this show that's that's they have guests on that would be on far right shows that is framed incorrectly we talk about the

biggest stories of the day correctly when we start tim Timcast IRL, I don't say, what are the right-wing people talking about today? Oh, that's true. I'm not looking for the deep, weird Jewish shit. Like the... Well, that's weird.

I don't hate Nick Clements. I'm not talking about that. I am not saying, what have the conservatives talked about today? I'm saying, what's the headline on the New York Times,

the Wall Street Journal, the Washington Post, and the Daily Mail? What are the biggest stories today? And it's like, an impeachment inquiry was opened into Joe Biden. There there's our headline that's the big news everyone's talking about it we cover it we then say hey look here's a video of joe biden engaging in a quid pro quo ah they're conservative i'm like but the video exists simply by reporting on it we're conservative this is the thing it's conserving reality jeez dude washington post is all about the biden's today we do not talk about conservative issues

no i don't you think so we talk now we talk about like family and god no no i'm not saying i'm saying the the premise of timcast irl is not what's the big conservative story today the premise is what is the big story today that's's it. And so you'll often find the headline of the Daily Mail, not always because sometimes it's like Kanye or something. Typically, what's the big trend on Google Trends? And that's what we're talking about. The only problem is we tell the truth, we break it down and we discuss and debate the issue. The left is a cult. So if they say there's no evidence of an impeachment and we say, here's a big list of evidence that literally exists and has nothing to do, you can come on

this show and be like, I love Joe Biden. And he did all of those things. You're conservative. Well, and there are stories that we talk about that are big and meaningful, like Owen Troyer, right? We were talking about him and what he's experiencing, the fact that he's getting charged with convicted of trespassing, but going to jail because of his speech and the mainstream media is not talking about that no no that's that's i disagree that was a huge story for the day that all of the leftists and liberals were talking about i feel like it was a big story but just from my perspective in the writer's room it's not something that cnn is talking about as much nbc was covering it a little bit. We're talking about things that are meaningful and powerful.

But the liberal journal sphere was obsessed with the story. Right. But the journal sphere doesn't always reach mainstream Americans. My point is that if liberal journalists like Ryan Reilly are going on Twitter and saying, Owen Schroyer, Owen Schroyer, and they won't shut up about it, and I say, let's talk about that. That is my point. We do not just cover stories that are something conservatives are talking about we put this this is big political

news and cultural news and we talk about it but the the fact that the point i'm bringing up is if you tell the truth conservative so i say joe biggs did not commit a crime that warrants two decades in prison i think he did he deserves some jail time for tearing down a fence and going in the building. What does that look like? I mean, reasonably a couple of months. He got two and a half years. Let's call it a day. Conservative.

I'm like, I'm pro-choice and pro-progressive tax. Don matter. Don even matter. Conservative doesn't mean that anymore. It's like, okay, whatever. One of the things we got to do is not call Joe Biden a criminal because he's technically innocent until proven guilty. He's admitted to crimes that doesn't mean that he is a criminal he's corrupt but it doesn't mean yes but but i do want to stress to not to to

get too far off the uh the beaten too far away from the subject is yeah i think in we're two generations away from this current iteration of liberalism ceasing to exist. And people keep saying, that's not true, Tim. They're indoctrinating kids. And I'm like, no, you're wrong. Look at the pushback we're seeing in Loudoun County. Look at the pushback in Florida. Parents are, this is why they're freaking out. Their indoctrination isn't working and they don't have kids of their own.

Bye-bye. I got it. How did you do it? How did you navigate four kids in Seattle? At least vaguely, generally, how did you do it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, so there's a book. But basically, you need to apply age-appropriate strategies to inculcate your worldview in developmental ways. That's the bottom line.

So we sort of break it down like, what are you going to do in elementary school? What are you doing in middle school? What are you doing in high school? We talk a lot about how you can teach what you know, but you replicate what you are. And so if you want your kids to be knowledgeable, to be able to stand firm, to be able to push back, to be able to sort fact from fiction, you'd better be able to do that, right? You need to be an expert enough on the topics that need to be conserved. Like we didn't call it raising anti-woke kids or anti-left kids. We said raising conservative kids because there are specific things that are under attack right now that need to be conserved.

They're not new ideas. They're old ideas. They're the best ideas from economics and biology and history that need to be conserved. What are those things right now that are under attack that you need to be an expert on? You need to know enough about the founding of America, male, female, parent-child relationships, the nature of rights, religious freedom protections, that kind of thing. These are the things under attack. These are the things you need to fortify your kids in. You need to be an expert on this.

And I want to say one thing before we go to callers. I am not Christian. I believe in God, but I actually think the Ten Commandments are pretty important. You are correct. You now get another 1,000 points. We talked about it a bit with Seamus. We went through them, and I said, if you think about what the commandments are outside of a religious context,

try and view them secularly. Overwhelmingly, they can be applied to a good moral life regardless of whether you believe in God or not. But I don't want to rehash that. We're going to go to callers now, so let's do that. And maybe we'll have that conversation tomorrow morning. It's a good one. Let us speak to...

I have to see the name here. Crondors. I was on mute for a second there cron doors you're with us how are you good to talk to you again hey good evening everybody how are you guys doing very fun here he is uh so my question was um so uh what are your thoughts on what the state of the nation is going to be between November 2024 and January 20th, 2025? And as a result of like what happened last time, do you think we need to kind of like revamp that period of time where give or give it more time so that people can do their legal processes or maybe even shortness that they can't? I mean, what do you guys think? Nope, because whoever wins will say no if trump wins the democrats will file suit and the right's going to be like fuck you no and if the left wins the right's going to be like we should

sue and left's going to be like fuck you know it is going to be crazy as fuck and i i just i just got to say guys like tell me a reasonable scenario just please where there is not chaos following the results of the 2024 election yeah if biden wins if trump wins i think biden drops out i i i am in a strong i am of the strong position right now i believe that biden will drop out and i do have a piece of me being like man i don't know for sure but i just cannot two things I can't see. I can't see Biden actually running because if he does, it's a sure shot to losing, period, end of story. If he does remain in, this overlaps the other scenario in that they pull Trump's name off the ballot. There's some fuckery and then, but let's just say right now, the election is totally normal. Trump runs, Biden wins, everyone smiles, shakes hands.

Then the results come in. Everything burns to the fucking ground, no matter who the winner is. Democrats won't accept Trump. Trump supporters won't accept Joe Biden or Democrats. I just I don't see it. Yeah, it's almost better that neither one of those guys runs for president. But no, no, that doesn't even matter either. Make him go away isn't the way they're calling Viveka 9-11 truther.

They call they call Ron DeSantis, they imply he's like with young girls and stuff like this. What is truther? What does that mean? I've heard it for years, but what does it mean? It means you believe that-

False truth? 9-11 is an inside job. So it's just about 9-11? They don't go- Truther means you reject the official narrative of thing. Yeah. It comes from 9-11 truther.

Oh, okay. But now, you know, people have applied it to other things but uh yeah uh it's it's i bro i gotta be honest i think your question's fairly obvious you know there are a lot of people who are like two minutes ago touch grass and i'm like dude i go out all the fucking time i was in portland maine i was in the outer banks i go to national harbor in dc and hang out with regular old people at a poker table and i'm telling you fuck me dude it's gonna be nuts they're you know the the closest i see to normalcy is when a dude at the poker table says you know i don't really follow any of that stuff i have no idea and i'm like yeah and then three of the other guys at the table are talking shit about joe biden the democrats and like i don't know I just, politics is pop culture. And come 2024, the results come in.

I do not, I cannot envision a clean scenario. Trump's name gets pulled from a single ballot, wrong size ballot images, videos of people covering up the windows. You need one. All it takes is one. And then people are gonna to be like i refuse and it's going to be nuts peaceful transition of power yeah i don't see that happening yeah i mean

suddenly also all the lefties start saying bootlicker again yeah but uh do you want to do you want to uh elaborate on that or was that sufficient no i agree with you i can't see any anything playing out without someone uh throwing a brick through a window and just having the domino effect of everything burning down to the ground after that. Get away from cities. Here's what I would do. And I don't want to give anyone advice because you got to be responsible for your own safety because your circumstances are unique. But if it were me, I would not be in a city. And I just have some

emergency supplies yeah get to know your neighbors your community because worst case scenario is that there's chaos outside your house and if you know your neighbors you guys will be ready for it and it won't happen but i but i but i i do think it's fair to say it's like not going to be immediately after the election is called the morning like the early morning hours it could be like two two months later like we saw with january 6th it could be i mean it could be fucking crazy maybe there'll be i mean look in 2020 the democrats envisioned a scenario where west coast states would would be pressured to secede from the union if trump wins there's a john podesta thing yep yep boston globe reported this so y'all get ready but uh was that good should we should we advance any more no that was great appreciate it i i was was wondering if i could ask a question

maybe after everybody else is done or um if there's time but i'm just gonna wait you should just ask it now yeah so it's up it's faster uh sure um i i want to ask you this yesterday because you were talking about people you know plugging into the metaverse and then just being fed bugs but what were your thoughts about uh the holodeck on star trek uh and you know and its parallels too so i'm plugging into it dude because even like picard at times would like you know escape into like a like a one of his sherlock home you know things and i mean what are your thoughts in those parallels so the holodeodeck, amazing. If we ever had anything like that, it's funny because they didn't understand VR and computer brain interface.

What is a holodeck? It's like a room. A room that can become anything. And it's infinite space when the room becomes the jungle. You're actually in a jungle. You don't like walking to a wall. Because it's a treadmill, actually. It's like what you guys are describing in your video games.

Yeah, exactly. But like you walk into a room, you say computer, Sherlock Holmes, and all of a sudden you are sherlock holmes uh the thing about that is let's be real it's a public publicly accessible room on a ship full of your peers and colleagues people wouldn't do all that crazy of stuff with it now in their homes back on earth it would be the most fucked up, psychotic porn machine ever devised. Dude, that should be an episode of Star Trek

where Riker's like, yo, you see the shit that Picard was doing in the fucking hollows back at his house? No, it's gotta be like, that's a parody we could do, where it's like, no one's gonna go on, let's say you're on a military ship,

and they have a video game console or computer with a big screen that anyone can look at, no one is going to blast porn on it unless they're doing it as a gag where they're trying to prank and be like, look what we just pulled up. But in their own home. So you could do a bit where it's like, yeah, I'm going to pick up Picard for the meeting we got.

And he shows up and he's like, Jean-Luc, are you in here? And then he walks in and then he's like, he must be playing holodeck and he opens it and he's like, Jean-Luc, are you in here? And then he walks in and then he's like, he must be playing holodeck and he opens it and there's just like lizard people banging Sasquatch. They prank him on his birthday. They put a virus in the deck and he's like, holodeck, computer, take me to the front lines of the battle of, and then he's in a brothel and he's like,

no, I said slow down, computer, slow down. The virus would be him being like, play porn porn scenario 14 and then he sees a beautiful woman he's like perfect and then all of a sudden the woman turns into sasquatch he's like no no but anyway yeah uh yeah i just i just remember that one episode where geordie makes a copy of this girl he likes and he's trying to date her in there and i'm like that's just that's so on the surface that one of the episodes was he creates a computer create using the Starfleet profile of this scientist. He needs help designing or fixing some engineering problem. The scientist is a woman.

The computer makes her agreeable and amicable to work with him. And then he gets attracted to her, meets her in real life. She's a bitch. And she's married she finds out that he created this thing of her and she's like you are a creep dude but anyway yeah good question it's easier to have feelings later can't argue with you appreciate it guys thanks this is literally why you've got japanese men that are marrying anime characters you know that in japan they have they have like business chains of masturbation stations yeah when i was in japan i kept seeing this like logo like in a sign that i didn't know what it was

and then finally i was like what is that thing we see all over the place and they're like oh it's for masturbating and i was like what like yeah and like let's go check it out and so we went in and they have dirty women's panties they have rooms some of the rooms are on camera you can watch because some people get off on being watched on camera while they do it there are stained clothes so is this just like here's some relief so you can go back and focus on your job kind of thing it's like in the middle of work you go to the masturbation station instead of doing fives yeah japanese people be crazy anyway let's get caught on camera tubing people want to be anyways panda ish how are you hey what's going on sir how you doing um you know just listening interesting conversations all right uh so i want to white

pill people a little bit please do please do it's more for tim uh on trash house records so imagine a year and a half from now you know trump's president the vex vice president and cast cafe is going your stage is up and running and you're running a show like the voice brett's your host like ryan seacrest and ian ph, Phil and Carter are your judges now you're in fantasy land well I mean Brett has blonde hair now so he could be, he's kind of growing out I guess he'd be a good Ryan Seacrest

I'm more likely to build a carbon fiber graphene wing suit and try and fly off the top of my building than to do what you described I gotta be honest a carbon fiber graphene wing, and try and fly off the top of my building than to do what you described i gotta be honest a carbon fiber graphene we should do that if we my goal is to have uh one of your songs play at uh the inauguration or whoever just you can be i don't care who wins i just want to hear tim cast music uh performed at a live event we'd have to we'd have to write

a song i think we got a million to one i don't think we't think bridge either oh actually that that could theoretically work that's a good political message because like you're up against the mass but it works for trump's style of the music he kind of plays it's not too aggressive it's like survivor kind of vive could use it at one of his rallies i just want to i don't know i think it's cool that like there are many branches of this company that span lots of cultural interests that you could be hearing something that's attached to this podcast, but it could just be a song that you like. It doesn't have to be because you like this candidate or because whatever you just like that,

like what we're producing. Was it Panda issues? A suggestion that you didn't like? Is it the, just the, the, the contest of the voice itself? You don't want anything to do with,

or do you not want, I mean, the whole thing about the voice is just awful. In my opinion, the voice. Yeah. Who wants to do those? do you not want i mean the whole thing about the voice is just awful in my opinion the voice yeah who wants to those those reality shows those reality like competition shows they're pretty new in in human culture like 20 years new and i think it's done massive disservice to these people that want like the get i mean it's like eurovision isn't it yeah it's all eurovision yeah it's just that they make karaoke contests yeah where you like come out of obscurity what was it

was pandish was that your question that you you would suggest we would do something of of this so i mean because if anything you guys would be able to push our actual like rock and alternative people actually playing music instead of all this friggin auto team crap i would end up being like simon cowell i would really criticize i would have to be be honest. And if they're not... We just have three Simon Cowell's back to back. These shows are covers. It's not original music. It's taking existing pop culture music,

having someone sing it and profiting off of it. I wouldn't want to do something like that. Well, no, you have them do their actual music instead. But then it's just like... But then we might as well just sign bands that are good and just have them. Well, I mean, you'll have us as members be able to vote for like people that we think would actually help you because you'll be signing them. But I'd be like, oh, yeah, that person's music or that band's music.

I think doing anything like The Voice would tarnish the credibility of the bands that were involved in it. What if you did a music festival? What if Trash House gets so big you guys can have an annual music festival i mean that'd be great that'd be so cool yeah i like the idea of white pilling i'm not i'm not trying to discourage this and i think there are lots of cool things that our various projects could grow into including trash house white pills all around we could probably get like a field and set up a bunch of benches we have a field yeah we do we have 50 acres just get a bunch of benches. We have a field. Yeah. We do. We have 50 acres. Just get a bunch of fencing and then giant stadium,

like not stadium seating, but benches, like, I don't know. Bleachers. I would, I would, Sermon on the Mount, baby. I would just do a show.

I would never do a voice kind of thing. No judges, none of that. Not worth it. You know, I would have a show and be like, that was great.

Like if we had our own tiny desk, you know, the NPR thing where people come play their music. That would be cool. Well, I mean, we're setting up the music thing for here for Fridays. Yeah.

The only reason we didn't is because we thought we were going to be at Freedomistan by now, but we're just not because government takes forever. Government. Yeah.

Panda-ish. Anything else to add? Yeah, real quick. Orville already did the hollow porn. If you remember, if you watch Orville. Yeah. No. Orville already did the hollow porn, if you remember, if you watched Orville. Yeah. No, no.

Orville's good. Also, you said you want to promote other shows. Have you actually watched Carnival Row? Nope. Season two literally destroys communism. So I'm pretty sure Phil would like that. Nice. I watched the latest season of It's Always Sunny.

It's fucking great. They're brilliant. I love it. Really good. Well, Panadish, thank you very much thanks for calling in brother cheers is uh always sunny still running yeah yeah latest season was great it's hilarious uh r o r how are you you're with us hello timcast crew and guest it's amazing to finally be able to call in and talk to all of you. Question for you, is the O a zero or is that an O? It is.

So it's Roar and I kind of stole it from Warhammer. It's Regiment of Renown. Cool. So I do apologize if this is a little long winded, but I'm a New York resident lifelong and I was never really into politics i was just your default democrat until around 2018 that the fiasco that was the trump impeachment it kind of fired me up a little bit and i started diving deep researching and seeing what was going on in our country and our culture shortly after i found your show tim and this is my home uh so i've been

watching for a couple of years now i've been a member i watch every single night i've tried to get people involved but in my hometown in new york we have a little project going on we're really really close to launching for cultural projects and uh we're trying to get our community more involved. I'm doing things on my own along with three other people. What are some resources that are available to kind of get ourselves out there fast hitting the ground and more involved into the community to bring more people together? Do you have any ideas? Oh, no. You know what I love about what you're doing, though, is, and really, there were some clues in what you were saying, that, again, women just tend to connect,

right? But you're coming to Tim because you're saying you've built something. And I want to know how you built something. And actually, like what you're doing, I think is deeply masculine. Like men, men don't just need good ideas. They need to see maleness embodied by a man. You cannot disembody manhood. It has to be embodied, right? So that's why, you know, you're like, you said, this is my home, right? You have found a place where formation is happening, right? That's what happens in a home is you're formed in a home. And Tim is helping you form a new way of looking at the world. But it's not just ideas. He's built something concrete.

And that is also deeply masculine. And you are also building and taking responsibility for other people in your world so i just applaud you i love it auror um and i i just think that that is fantastic right that that's how men roll they look at what men are doing men that they admire um they don't just need the men take responsibility for themselves they need to see a man taking responsibility for other people and that is what inspires them That's what calls them to greatness. That's why you love watching, you know, Sound of Freedom and why you love watching William Wallace fight the Scottish tyranny. Like everything that calls men.

Thank you. He is the Scott, right? But everything that what it is that calls men to greatness is other great men. Yeah, I think that's interesting. I think it's cool. We'll take it to his question. Sorry. I was going to say, I think, too, if you want to grow, I think, to your point, the best thing to do would be to have, in my opinion, events with people in your area that celebrate whatever you're interested in or you have your values.

And then you just invite other people to them. I mean, this is a typical sorority recruitment tactic where you're saying, please bring someone to this event that we're having. Everyone has to bring someone. But it's a way to quickly show people kind of your values, have them at an event, and then also have them connect with other people. I think that's one of the reasons our Discord is so successful is that people want to keep the conversation going among their friends. And it gives them a place to say, these are people to talk to with your values. So that's my advice. Always just find someone, or if you're having events, make it mandatory that people bring someone new. I want to know a little bit more about what it is that you're promoting exactly.

So we are starting our own podcast. We've already gotten a couple of channels up and running. We built our studio. We're about $3,500 in. We're just going to be talking about cultural stuff like you guys do. Try to keep politics out of it a little bit in the beginning because we don't want to be pushed into a camp. But we're already collaborating with a bunch of local businesses because there's just a lot of people in my town, in my community. They have so much to talk about, but they feel like nobody is listening. And it's just driving us to want to do this.

I think it's cool that you're doing something. It's good that you are. Yeah. There has to be action at some point. You can't just sit idly by. When I first started doing internet video, I would go to videos of people that I respected and wanted to emulate and look at all the comments. And then I'd open each of the commenters page

and message them individually with my newest video with a message. This is my newest video. I really truly, I believe in this. I really think we can communicate. And so I would do that like a thousand times a day or like, cause it's free. You can market yourself for free that way. And that'll get you from zero that like a thousand times a day or like, cause it's free. You can market yourself for free that way.

And that'll get you from zero to like a thousand subscribers right off, you know, right away, meaning like 60 hours of work or 40 hours or whatever. That's a good way. I don't know if you can still do it as easily. You know, snowball rolling down a hill.

It's you gotta put the work in. Yeah. But especially if you think it's for people in your town, like if you have someone on who lives locally, have them send it to their five brothers or you know send it to a local newspaper or whatever you want to do like there are ways to especially if you're already in a physical community to distribute there and grow from that yeah we definitely need to uh get on the next call i'm looking forward to seeing the show man i wish i had a better answer for resources that you could use to,

to help everything go faster. But I, I think the reality is you are, you are digging through a tunnel made of pure stone. You're digging a mountain path like that dude who, uh, what was it? His wife died because she couldn't get to the hospital.

So single-handedly carved a tunnel and, uh, the resources available may be minimal. It may be only what you can see around you and it may actually just be carving a hole through a mountain but if you believe in it and you do it you'll make it yep thanks for calling in buddy thank you so much it's a big honor i hope you guys all have a wonderful night i'm honored that you're a member my friend thank you seriously mad respect and thank you so much for for uh the support and for calling in yep cheers keep it up good night good night all right st miles how are you

hi thank you for taking my call of course got it man uh my question is sorry i'm still reading some of the chats from the holodeck uh earlier it's all good but um my question is with the uh latest court uh decision on daca what are your thoughts and for your guests especially uh about uh anchor babies what was the latest ruling uh the a judge just ruled that it's invalid that daca doesn't stand as a good yeah that's how i thought yeah i mean absolutely. I mean, the thing is, DACA, they're going to battle for DACA for the rest of eternity. It's going to be something

that we fight on for years and years and years. You know, the thing about anchor babies, and I can say this because my brother is one, no, I'm just kidding. Well, he kind of is,

is that I don't believe in birthright citizenship. So the idea of an anchor baby doesn't seem valid right i don't think that we should have it be uh i mean this was true i can't remember his name but one of the the heads of the mexican drug cartel sent his wife over to california so she would have her twins born here so that he would always have claim to the u.s and that the benefits that uh have if you have a child who is born in the U.S. but their parents aren't here, there are different ways for them to get their extended family to get into the country. So I don't think this ruling is the end of it.

It's not like we're just like and we're done with DACA now because it's such a point of contention among the two parties. But I think the real solution is ending birthright citizenship. Agreed. It's not what it's supposed to be. And also the times have changed it used to be that there was no real border and people walked back and forth and being a citizen meant more to do with did you have access to communal funds and voting and and national defense and things like that now it means something different because we have people ripping

us off murdering us smuggling drugs and i'm not okay with loopholes i just i think we've got to have rules yeah right i agree do you see that italian island of 6 000 citizens was just 7 000 immigrants came in yep trying to break through the barricades that's it's crazy fucking hell i mean that's like set up a machine gun defend your territory kind of shit man yeah seriously it is terrifying we're getting to like listen back in the day if a horde of a thousand people carrying flags tried to rush into your town or country, it was a- All military, it's like military age men too. It's not just women and children. It's not women and children.

It's just a bunch of men. They would, that's called a barbarian horde. Yep, literally. I have a lot to learn about the subject, but I will say that the loophole of birthright citizenship is absolutely being exploited in big fertility right now. You've got these Chinese couples that are coming over, renting the wombs of largely Californian women because it's Wild West in terms of reproductive technologies there. Custom order a baby very often. Well, maybe not often. We don't know because big fertility doesn't track any of the children that they are purchasing, selling and exporting.

But they will have two or three. They'll implant two or three. Then they'll abort the one or two that they are purchasing, selling, and exporting. But then they're... But they will have two or three. They'll implant two or three. Then they'll abort the one or two that they don't want. And then the child is Chinese, born to an American woman, and then has American citizenship, flown back to China. And so now we have added this commercial aspect, this customizing commercial aspect to birthright citizenship. And countries...

We are unique. I mean, this is not a standard standard thing it's not every other country in the world if i had a child in germany i wouldn't it wouldn't automatically have german citizenship i think america doesn't understand i think i think it's wrong for america to assume this is an effective way just because we've always done it this way um Yeah. It used to be that we needed citizens when we were a birthing country, when, when we were young as a nation, now we're oversaturated apparently. Well,

and also if we needed citizens, why wouldn't we encourage people to have families? That's great. Also legal. Instead of allowing birth tourism and open borders, we should be incentivizing having families. I like the idea of cutting taxes for people if they have a certain number of kids things like that and liberals seem to agree with

that they do that in hungary i think yeah that's right 25 off your income tax up to four a lot of eastern european institutions it's to fight the decline in birth rate right but fighting the decline of birth rate isn't solved by opening your borders. That's not the same thing at all. I am so terrified of what could happen. St. Miles, was that good? I hate to go too abruptly, but I want to try and get to these other callers. No, that was very on point. Thank you very much.

And to Ian, my avatar is the Order of St. John, not the Maltese. Thanks, man. Right on. Thanks for calling in, brother. Thank you. Thank you, St. John, not the Maltese. Thanks, man. Right on. Thanks for calling in, brother. Thank you. Thank you, St. Miles. All right, Sammy Football, you're with us. How are you? Hey, hey, can you guys hear me? Yes. Loud and clear.

I'll make it as quick as possible because I do have my little after show plug for the end. My question is actually for Katie um so once in a tweet you had said adoption begins with loss which disadvantages children and as someone who's adopted I respectfully disagree and I truly consider me being adopted as a blessing in my life compared to the life that I would have had, especially now that I know what I know. I wish I had all night to share my story. However, my question is, what needs to be reformed in the adoption process, in your opinion, to make it easier for families who long to have children?

Yeah, I'd love to hear your story. I wish we had time for it. The reality is that adoption does not exist for adults. It's not about giving kids to people who want to complete their family, not infertile adults, not gay adults. Adoption is not for adults. Adoption is for children. Adoption is for kids whose parents could not or would not give them the life that they deserved. And so the goal is to place children with the parents that are best going to be able to meet their needs, both in terms of safety and development, kinship bonds, wherever it's best and appropriate. But adoption does begin with loss. The child has to lose their first family to find their adoptive family. The mother has to lose a

relationship with her child, either because she's not fit or because she feels like she can't offer the child the life that the baby deserves. And so adoption, as it's properly understood, is a child-centric institution. It is a just society's response to children who have lost their parents. It is not a means for adults to get kids. That's not what it is. And we fall into an awful lot of error in an awful lot of ways if we think that this institution exists for adults. It doesn't. It exists for you. Adoption is for you. It is to serve you. you watched 30 rock no liz lemon wants to have it all it's her character she's the head writer of a show it's a funny show i love the show but when they talk about how uh she having it all means being the boss and having a family. They center her adoption around what she wants to be

fulfilled, not around helping the baby. There's actually no, they don't talk about the baby at all. It's just she's trying to get a baby because she wants one. Yeah. And I'm an adoptive mom. I used to be the assistant director at the largest Chinese adoption agency in the world. I was responsible for compliance with international state and federal standards to make sure that the best interest of the child was upheld. The way that adoption is set up is to restore what has been lost. And so that's what adoption should be. But that does not negate the fact that the child has to lose something to then find that redemptive position. Does that help sort of correct kind of yeah I would yeah and I'll actually reach out to you on Twitter because you you you you you you you you you you