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Donald Trump has released a statement on the new indictment.
Ladies and gentlemen, we have that statement to play for you.
Here it is.
The country is in a very dark place right now.
But even after everything the deep state has done to me,
I will never give up on America.
Mark my words.
In 2024, we will win back the White House.
We will make America great again.
I have no doubt about it.
They come at me from left.
They come at me from right.
The rhinos, the communists, the Marxists, the fascists.
We will not only survive, we will be stronger than ever before.
We're fighting a fight like nobody ever thought possible.
And we're winning. We're fighting a fight like nobody ever thought possible, and we're winning.
We won in 2016.
We had a rigged election in 2020, but got more votes
than any sitting President.
We're going to win like never before, and we're
going to make America great again.
I can truly say, I believe, better than ever before.
Thank you for all of your support and for all of your prayers.
And that's it.
There you go.
That's Donald Trump's statement.
Well, I mean, he did do quite a service in helping wake the world up to what's actually happening in a lot of ways.
So if that's winning, then I believe him. If winning is actually getting
to become the US president again,
I am not convinced. You know why Trump
lost in 2020? Because they fucking
rigged it behind the scenes.
COVID.
Proprietary voting software.
No COVID, Trump won.
None of this would have been possible with the votes,
with everything that they've done, with the lockdowns, without
COVID. COVID was the see-all, end-all.
And it's partly Trump's fault.
Trump initially supported the lockdowns.
Well, two weeks to flatten the curve.
Right.
And then later on, he was like, well, it's the governors that are doing it.
He could have done a lot more.
And he just was, he did not understand.
They had surrounded him on the battlefield.
And he was standing there being like, how lovely that all of my friends are here.
Yeah, and the riots, the riots of 2020.
He could have used that.
They set a precedent for the riots of January 6th.
Like, people were just used to rioting at that point.
If Trump allowed them to storm the White House,
he'd be president right now.
But I think if he had shut down the riots in 2020
with the National Guard,
then maybe we wouldn't have had a January 6th eruption
because it was already like the ethos.
I don't think the riots of 2020 really factored into the rights behavior
and i mean the bad actors behavior on january you don't think that the the right felt like
you don't think the people that went to the the january 6th riot they felt like oh if things get
out of hand it's kind of okay because that's kind of the way things have been i don't think that was
their mindset going into it i mean there was a feeling in the air, right?
There was an immense energy
that people weren't even thinking that far.
I know I wasn't.
I know a lot of people on the ground weren't.
There was just, I would say it was like this godlike,
I mean, an energy that I've never felt before all throughout.
I mean, it was the mob mentality.
You know, they didn't go there to be violent.
Yeah, you had people that did.
But when you're in a group like that and you're all there for the exact same purpose there's power behind that and they use
that power i don't think you know they they were thinking in the moment of being prosecuted for
anything i don't even think that crossed most people's minds and that's why you had people
walk into the capitol and just i mean literally hang out on capitol grounds and now they're
sitting in prison but i don't think they thought they were doing anything wrong. Yeah. A lot of them didn't.
There were people who were fighting, for sure. Oh, absolutely.
But I think...
I'll say it again. If on
May 29th,
the far left just ransacked all these buildings
and destroyed D.C.,
Trump would be president. If they allowed them to burn that church
down and then storm the White House, it would have been over.
But I think you guys are right about COVID, man. With COVID,
it fucked everything up so bad and it gave so much power to these
people behind the scenes to do what they wanted with the voting exactly because of that they were
able to enact all these universal mail-in voting bullshits where they could do ballot harvesting
ballot chasing knocking on doors and then trump and uh this is this is the thing people don't
gotta remember man the fraud narrative right after the election was not they were ballot harvesting and that's how they won it was venezuela chinese hacking uh
trump secretly put watermarks on the ballots trucks driving in at 4 a.m secretly delivering
the votes that were printed in china all of that stuff yeah that's all that's all that's all
bullshit yep and that was this is what this is what i often say when it comes to stuff like China, all of that stuff. Yeah, that's all bullshit.
And this is what I often say when it comes to stuff like Pizzagate.
Here's what they do, and here's what you all need to pay attention to.
This is the trick.
You will stumble upon a true conspiracy,
and what they'll do is they will chuck red meat over the fence so you all go running after it.
Meanwhile, they carry on their fucked up business.
In this instance, what did they do?
Changed the laws, changed the rules, chased after ballots, probably a lot of illegal ballot chasing, getting elderly people to vote and sign up on things. In a lot of states, it was
legal. They just had to sign a waiver saying that this person's my caregiver and now you can collect
the ballot from them. James O'Keefe uncovered that guy who was holding ballots. It wasn't that there
was anything outside the country or, you know machines were flipping votes it was actually simple they used covet
lockdown to take everything away from everybody to tell them endlessly nothing but this is trump's
fault then they knocked on their door and said sign it and the people did and they collected all
those ballots and trump and the gop never saw it coming. And they're still using these practices in the midterms
and that's why the Republicans did not do better.
Well, now you see Trump talking about ballot harvesting
and putting together the biggest mass ballot harvesting scenario
we've ever seen in the country, but is it going to happen?
But that's how you win elections
and that's exactly what the left did.
They played it smart.
They used this man-made disease that was created in a lab intentionally to crash the economy
and to screw Trump out of everything to quite literally, I mean, take back the power.
And they still are going to maintain that power.
Yeah, it wasn't COVID that did it.
And I got to be real clear about this.
It was the way they responded to COVID that is what did it.
COVID, fuck all.
It was some threat, random threat.
Could have been anything.
Could have been volcano, super volcano, aliens. Climate change. Climate change. Could have been threat. Could have been anything. Could have been volcano, super volcano,
aliens. Climate change. Climate change. Could have been
flooding. Could have been COVID. Could have been a virus.
It was a virus this time. Fucking the way they
shut shit down and started to move shit around.
Well, it's always a response because
people can take a virus. People can
take certain things to an extent, but
then when the response is overdue
and they over-respond,
that's when the tyranny comes and that's
exactly what you saw with kovat the reason why they are going after trump in this way is because
they don't have kovat anymore they know that if it comes down to a standard election trump wins
they have to do something to throw a wrench in the gears because kovat ain't there anymore
for aliens well that's what you see also with the UFO stuff. And you see Project Blue being with the CIA documents and everything.
It's not hard to fake something like this.
It's just projections followed by some drone strikes.
But I don't think they're going to go down that route.
There's really no reason.
They can do something significantly different.
They could start a Russian false flag.
Start a world war to say,
now is not the time to change presidents.
We need consistent leadership.
However, Joe Biden's not inspiring anybody.
So I don't know if that strategy.
Yeah, I don't think they're going to look at like serial killers, like all the psyops.
Right.
And how controlling people through fear has developed.
Serial killers don't scare people anymore.
So and then you move on to war.
You move on to viruses.
And it's always a never ending evolving thing to the next scary thing.
You bring out the aliens right
what's more scary than you know
space invaders essentially
blowing up cities there's nothing what are you going to use
to control the power dynamic
after that to make people fear things
I think that's all the ways
I gotta address this because
Deez Nuts says this dude is denying
that we have video evidence of these people
processing the same ballot over and over pulling ballots out from tables, trucks pulling up to Staples Center at 3 a.m.
How dare I believe my lying eyes?
Deez Nuts, why don't you watch the full video from, what was it, the TCF Center, where they pulled the ballots out from under the tables?
Because I did.
Did you?
You didn't.
I know for a fact you didn't. Because what you'd find is they have empty boxes.
They get ballots from people, put them in the boxes, close the boxes, put them under the table.
Later in the day, pull them out and start counting them.
Well, and I think Gateway Pundit is being sued for that story as well by the lady that was seen pulling out the boxes.
I think she's filed a lawsuit against Gateway Pundit because of that article.
It's amazing to me that people have fallen for this stuff so easily. Okay, you need, this is why I'm always like, when it came to the Covington kids, and they were like, oh, they were, look at this video, Tim, of this kid in the face of this Native American guy.
I was like, what is this?
And they're like, look what he's doing.
I'm like, what's he doing?
And they're like, he got in the face of this guy. And I'm like, all I see is a video of two dudes standing in front of each other.
You got to give me something more.
So what did I do?
I went through the full two-hour live stream, and I was like, look at this. Native American
guy went up to him. So sure
enough, during all this election shit,
people are like, look, Tim, there's a video of them pulling box
out from the table. I said, where did those boxes come
from? If there's surveillance footage of them doing
this, certainly there's surveillance footage all day,
right? Ding, ding, ding. What did we find?
You watch them put the boxes
under the table themselves and pull them out later.
Don't know why.
I feel like the right-wing social media ecosystem is also, I mean,
I'd say they're the biggest, like, perpetrators of.
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This narrative, right, you know, compared to blaming COVID
and the changing his laws
and the mail-in ballots
because they just keep pushing it.
They know what's wrong,
but they keep pushing it
and keep pushing it and keep pushing it.
It's something I've been able to dodge.
But sorry, to respond to the
running the ballots the multiple times,
it's the same surveillance footage
where a woman puts the ballots in
and presses the button,
then walks over, grabs them again
and puts them in again.
Now, Ian's argument here is correct. We need to see the code to understand what running the ballots in and presses the button, then walks over, grabs them again, and puts them in again. Now, Ian's argument here
is correct. We need to see the code to
understand what running the ballots through twice
will do. The idea
that you can take a ballot,
which probably has an ID number on it
or something to differentiate it from other
ballot signatures and all of that, and run it through
a machine and the machine won't be like error
duplicate, to me is absurd.
The reason she may have run it through twice, for we know the machine said read error please reinsert and then
we and then everyone was like aha that proves she was double counting ballots can ballots be
double counted i don't know there's no argument there there's this is this is the problem you do
have video of of trucks pulling up in the middle of the night with ballots and the argument they
made was these are just mail-in ballots being delivered.
Why does it matter that it was 3 in the morning?
Seriously. Now I'll tell you what is weird
when they block the view of the people when they're counting those votes.
There was bullshit, don't get me wrong.
But the reality is, signature
verification wasn't being done properly
because a lot of it was ballot harvesting.
These are ballots from real people
that went to nursing homes and they said
sign it and a lot of these people probably just forged bullshit or got them to sign bullshit.
And that's why you get mismatching signatures.
Well, in the Beto campaign did that exact same thing.
I think Alex Rosen came out with a video.
He went knocking with the door knockers and they were ballot harvesting and they were
getting these elderly people that clearly weren't in the right mindset to vote for Beto.
I mean, this is a this is a wide practice thing in the Democratic Party.
It's nothing new.
But to think the idea is that the whole election was completely stolen
because of ballots being stuffed.
I mean, it's just wrong.
Yeah, there was absolutely irregularities and fraud,
but to the extent that they say it is, I don't know.
But I'll tell you this.
Arizona, I believe, actually was stolen.
Absolutely.
From Kerry Lake. that they say it is but i'll tell you this arizona i believe actually was stolen absolutely from carrie lake yeah the fact that was it hundreds of printers printed the wrong size image on the wrong size paper there's no way that accidentally happened someone went and had
to physically yeah well it's preset in the system you're set to print that aspect ratio that the
font everything is preset because legally it has to be the same and all of a sudden it changes
there's something there was no election in arizona you you be the same. And all of a sudden it changes. There's something.
There was no election in Arizona.
You can't say that in all of these districts, people weren't able to vote and you had an election.
Katie Hobbs oversaw her own election without recusal.
So did Raffensperger.
And then won her own election.
What in the fuck kind of process is that?
I think a Republican did that as well, though.
Raffensperger.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, fuck that shit.
Yeah, but it was in Georgia.
But no one likes him either and no one trusts him. he win he won his own election and they said he stole it
from stacy abrams and she was the rightful governor fucking dirty shit i love how like
they're what they they did in georgia first they're now mocking carrie lake for yep like
carrie lake is like hey it was stolen from me katie hobbs running around shit and then they're
like haha you're crazy rewind three years or whatever. And it's like Stacey Abrams screaming and crying.
I'm the real governor.
Well, it's the thing, too, is you see when a new precedent is set by either party, the other party is eventually going to use it because you've already set that precedent.
So it doesn't matter what it is.
The other party is going to use it to their advantage because they're losing if they don't that's why i'm talking about like uh pardons
why i'm trying to go the ethical route like just holistically ethical because i swear anything that
we do or anything that anyone tries to do to the other we'll come back around to you it's that's
how it works with the cycle you give them ideas with your own behavior if they haven't thought
of it yet already i wouldn't be surprised if in 2020 michigan for example was completely fraudulent i'm not saying i have reason i have evidence that it is but the reason why i wouldn't be surprised if in 2020, Michigan, for example, was completely fraudulent.
I'm not saying I have reason, I have evidence that it is.
But the reason why I wouldn't be surprised is because Gretchen Whitmer is like, how do you say this?
A psychopathic, evil, malignant cancer on this nation.
She's the kind of person who absolutely would murder her own grandmother for three extra votes.
Oh, yeah.
She's a disgusting, despicable human being, and she should be in prison.
I pulled this video up on YouTube called American Election Hacker Testifies,
and it's Clinton Eugene Curtis testifying under oath at the U.S. House Judiciary members in Ohio
that he built software to flip votes 51-49,
and that if you didn't have the code, you wouldn't know that that's what the software is doing.
And then I remember George Bush won 51-49.
You know, a lot of these people win 51 49 come on that's why seeing the
code is so important so important and i will not make that mistake of claiming that it's flipping
votes because i dominion sued mike lindell i think they sued him mike lindell tucker fox just for
claiming that without the evidence i don't have the evidence to claim it i highly suspect it i
just don't have the fucking evidence because it's hidden on purpose you if you don't have the evidence to claim it i highly suspect it i just don't have the fucking evidence because it's hidden on purpose you if you don't have the evidence you can't have
the evidence that's the way the system's built unless someone breaks in and steals it which is
highly unethical and illegal so like i i don't know but it just it feels this guy's testifying
in fucking congress that he built software that flips votes and yet are we're still allowing that
to be in private oh it's not enough for me and it used to be the left that talked about electric voting machines being fraudulent and potentially having problems and being exposed to hacking.
And then now all of a sudden it's the right talking about it.
And the left has complete denial.
2024 is going to be interesting because every single Trump supporter everywhere will film literally everything.
You're going to have 50 people standing outside of every voting area filming
every person everywhere the left will call it voter suppression yeah that's funny well i remember
when they they i think it happens in the cary lake election you had people out right filming
it and they tried to say that pull that exact same card if there's like an organization tactic
where people could up to verify who they voted for and upload their footage like if if you could
somehow yeah you you could live if you can i don footage like if if you could somehow yeah you
could live if you can i don't know if you'll they'll let you take a camera into the thing but
if you can if you can somehow prove this is the button i pushed and then you can prove that the
system has you logged as voting for someone else and people have already proven that so if you
could have a massive organization of people coming together to prove it together on like a site
or some sort of website or social
network or something, you might be able to catalog. But to think that that site wouldn't
be taken down by a malicious DOJ attack or something like that. I mean, if they're doing
this, they're not going to allow it to stay up. Yeah, that would be a targeted piece of data.
I imagine. I mean, one of one of our sites when I was working with an organization called stop
hate.com or about the J6 stuff, just investigating going over the footage,
they started a news site specifically to put out new news
and aggregate all the news and all the videos
so people could go through it and watch it themselves to see,
hey, this is BS, this isn't what happened,
was taken down within a week, DDoS attack.
And where was the DDoS attack from?
It was from Virginia.
So, you know, it says a lot.
There was something going on there,
but if you go and you are using these public servers,
there's no way they're going to stay up.
They have access to all these.
There's backdoors to everything.
I mean, you would probably know that
with your development and minds and everything.
Backdoors exist on every website,
especially with Google owning everything and the Windows.
I mean, the CIA, you've seen their documents
when Assange released
it uh assange released them uh basically saying that windows is created for the cia to have back
door access that's why and that's how that's how all the internet is uh maybe on a blockchain
some sort of immutable database if you could store the data there it would still get tweaked and
moved and changed and then you'd have to be like well when did the block get changed because it's
different than what it said three weeks so that would be a hell on earth to try and verify then
like what's the front end code that's telling you what the block used to say and what it's saying
now and can you trust that code and then it's the people really have to if they don't know how to
read the code they've literally got to trust somebody to tell them that the code is is right
and that's a fucking problem too code literacy let's go to callers let's pull in some callers here i would like to i don't
fear the old bert i current i fear the current bert so you're with us i like that you started
doing callers yeah don't fear the old bert okay um yeah so uh thank you for taking my call um
this is for the panel uh do we think that the third indictment of Trump strengthens him like the others, or does it not widen the gap between DeSantis and Trump?
I think it strengthens him.
I think is I'm pretty sure his prediction markets already going up, but it's it's a procedural attack.
They're trying to remove him.
So it may make him do better in the polls, but they don't give a shit.
They're like, his name won't be on the ballot in all these states.
How can he win if he doesn't have Pennsylvania?
He sounded flustered in that response video
because he barely talked about it at all.
He just gave like, you know, what are they called?
Not allotropes, but just basically, we're going to do good.
We're going to win. Keep doing your best.
We'll get them.
Vivek's response was better.
Yeah, I agree.
Vivek actually talked about the USV Alvarez,
which is what knowingly says that you're legally allowed to knowingly make
inaccurate statements uh usv alvarez so that was nice that vivek actually quoted uh supreme court
law yeah and i mean i agree with tim is i don't think i mean polls literally don't matter we've
seen that time and time again he's going to skyrocket in the polls just like he does after
every single indictment after the mar-a-lago raid because his supporters are loyal and they understand what's going on so they're going
to continue to support him he's going to continue to garner more support but does that really matter
when you have a corrupt doj coming after him full force because they're in the ends they're the ones
that decide you know how this is all going to go they hold him responsible yeah tough question to
answer because strengthened is uh has a lot of meanings.
What do you think?
What do you think, old Bert?
Fear of the old Bert.
Fear of the old Bert.
Yeah, yeah.
No, I agree.
I think it will definitely strengthen him because all of the other indictments seem to have been nothing but positive for him.
So I don't see why this would be any different.
What do you think, Phil?
I don't know what you mean by strengthen.
Well, yeah.
If you're asking, is it going to make his numbers go up?
I don't think that there's a large segment of the population
that the fourth indictment is the line.
I don't think that there's going
to be a lot of people that are like well the first three i wasn't on trump's team but this
fourth one here that's the the the straw like i don't think that that's a big number i think that
it it'll reinvigorate some of the people that are already on his uh um you know on his on his side
that are already his voters um but i don't see But I don't see it moving the needle.
I think the people that hate him already are going to hate him.
I think the people that like him are going to like him.
And it's going to come down to getting the vote.
So it's going to come down to ballot harvesting.
And can you produce enough ballots that say Donald Trump on them?
I think it's weakening him in the aspect of his character and of his motivation
and who he is as a person, because you see his first statement with the Mar-a-Lago raid,
you see his second statement with the second indictment.
And now, I mean, you saw that last statement, low energy.
I mean, you look like Vivek clearly had a better response there.
So it seems like he's just, they're battering him.
And that's the entire point of this. They're to make it hurt they're coming after him they're coming
after his family all his belongings everything he loves and has worked his whole life for
and that's going to wear you down over time and it seems like it is wearing him down which is
understandable how's that uh how'd you like those answers yeah no that was great um so it kind of
sounds like uh he's kind of reached like his uh his
ceiling of like indictments basically like uh approval ceiling or whatever like how much more
of a victim can he become to get even more i think yeah i think his victim card has been played
yeah unless there's a unless there's a mugshot you know then or a perp walk then i think that
could help but it could also hurt him but who like that's the thing is i'm i'm trying to figure out who the the voter is
that sees that would purple yeah and says that's it or who's the voter like who's the person that's
informed enough that knows about the backstory and stuff like that that hasn't already made up
their mind it could have a counter effect. It could turn people off as well.
It could turn independents off seeing their, you know, I mean,
their president in cuffs.
So you never know really which way it goes until it happens.
Yeah, they could see that.
And then they'd be under the impression that, oh, well, you know,
the judicial system and everything works still.
And this is like legally correct.
And even though, you know, we would say we would, you know,
cause question or throw caution to that. But people could look at that and say, oh though it, you know, we would say we would, you know, cause question or throw caution to that,
but people could look at that and say,
Oh,
well,
you know,
obviously if he's on,
if he's in cuffs and he's under arrest and he has to be guilty,
that's how a lot of people's mind works.
Unfortunately,
it's just consider a possibility.
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Donald Trump gets criminally charged and imprisoned, resulting in widespread riots
and protests throughout the United States. It wouldn't take the same shape as what we saw with
the far left in Antifa and black lives matter because trump
supporters tend to be in more suburban and rural areas but you'd see road blockades armed groups
guarding their neighborhoods widespread economic shutdown people pulling their money out of bank
accounts eight days goes by the economy is in free fall banks have shut down people aren't working
and the military intervenes by arresting Joe Biden and then pulling Trump out of prison
and holding an emergency referendum of some sort to try and restore democratic order.
A lot of people are probably going to say that's insane.
That could never happen.
I'm only saying that because it's happened in multiple countries where there's been revolution
and civil war.
The people think the government can't fall.
It won't fall.
There's a king.
There's a queen.
And then something happens where there's widespread unrest leading to mass economic crisis and then ultimately someone says we got to do something
about this the example i'm giving you is much more akin to what happened in egypt but i'm
literally reading about the spanish civil war and the soviet uh february uh revolution and there's
so many similarities but in egypt it was interesting they were protests in tarir square
and the the country was basically economically stagnant.
This was putting their national security at risk.
The protests were getting out of hand.
And then eventually the military said, that's it.
We're intervening.
We're taking the president out of power.
And they did.
And that was, I think it was Mubarak.
And then a year later, when the Muslim Brotherhood won the elections, the protests restarted.
And the military immediately said, that's it.
We're taking them out of power.
So people think they can't happen in the United States, but it depends on the level of turmoil that ensues.
If Donald Trump gets criminally charged and it causes economic collapse or market collapse, what happens?
So here's what I think is more likely.
Not that Trump supporters waving MAGA flags go march in the streets.
What's more likely is that Donald Trump's indictment causes a shock to the market, which causes institutions, corporations, pensions, 401ks to collapse in value.
All of a sudden, people who are in their late 40s are screaming they have no money left for retirement, and they're demanding to know what the fuck happened to their money and why.
Now the price of food is skyrocketing. Now can't get water can't get clothing can't get food
for their kids now they're marching in the streets smashing things and it ain't blm or antifa the
protests go widespread military intervenes who knows what happens after that i could see like
if there's economic fallout and all these people were like i'm protesting the united states i'm
taking my money out of u.s banks i'm keeping cash if like tens of millions of people did that cause
disruption and collapse of the banking establishment that they would rush cbdc's into into power and be
like you cannot cash is no longer you can't use cash anymore you can only use our central bank
token sign up or die let me read just one thing for you the 19th century was a turbulent time
for spain those in favor of reforminging the Spanish government vied for political power with conservatives
who intended to prevent such reforms from being implemented.
In a tradition that started with the Spanish Constitution of 1812, many liberals sought
to curtail the authority of the Spanish monarchy as well as to establish a nation-state under
their ideology and philosophy.
The reforms of 1812 were short-lived as they were almost immediately overturned by King Ferdinand VII when he dissolved the aforementioned Constitution. Let's rewind.
The 21st century was a turbulent time for the United States. Those in favor of reforming the
U.S. government vied for political power with conservatives who intended to prevent such reforms
from being implemented in a tradition with a Constitution that started in the early days of
the American Constitutional Republic. Many liberals sought to curtail the authority of the executive branch and the U.S. government
and to establish a nation-state under their ideology and philosophy.
Sounds like if you flip liberal-conservative, you've got the exact same situation.
You don't need to flip liberal-conservative.
You quite literally read it in the context of today and identical.
Conservatives are saying we have a constitution, you can't just override it,
and the left is saying, fuck your constitution.
A lot of people have been pointing out for the past 10 years that we are on track
for this in exactly the same way as the spanish civil war and i was saying the similarities are
the republicans would are obsessed with breaking up the cia and the fbi so that was where they're
like get this fuck the federal government but it's the far left that wants to destroy the u.s
government with communism and they want to install their own version of a country the u.s is trying to maintain the conservatives are trying to maintain
the constitution in the in the u.s tradition i do i think that you could cut the bureaucracy
slice it by you know i believe vivek knows what he's talking about it would create a lot of
unemployment but that you could slice it up and and jobs and still maintain the system do you
really care though if it's federal unemployment? Let me read this.
Until the 1850s,
the economy of Spain was primarily based on agriculture.
There was little development of a bourgeois industrial
or commercial class.
Rewind that and say,
until the 2000s,
the economy of the United States
was primarily based on manufacturing and labor,
but it eventually shifted into a service sector economy
and then an influence economy,
et cetera, et cetera.
The rapid changing system of economics is playing a huge role in this.
People who once held political power or just general status by being able to support their families
through physical labor and manufacturing are now competing with influencer economies and the service sector.
This is causing a dramatic shift in power structures.
But anyway, I digress.
We should jump to our next caller. We should indeed. There's other governments that are involved in this. sector this is causing a dramatic shift in power structures but anyway i digress we should uh we
should jump to our next color we should indeed there's other governments that are involved in
this fear the old bird thank you for calling in sir thanks man yeah thank you last thing i just
want to say is um i still have that taco ball you gave me in dc in february taco ball yeah we were
skating that was fun what's a taco ball it's a it was like a beach balls had the tacos on oh nice it's awesome uh let's talk to maximus next maximus maximus how are you what's
going on guys sorry sir no you're all right doing well hey uh thanks for taking my call tonight uh
just a little pretext my question um formerly hated hated Donald Trump until 2020, watching what happened with COVID,
BLM riots, and then the 2020 election. I did not vote in 2020. I didn't really pay
attention to politics then. But after watching the fallout of that, early in the show, Tim,
you had said that 2024, you were laughing as Roseanne said there won't be an election.
And then you said, we'll have the illusion of an election, such as, you know, ballots, you'll go vote, things like that.
My question is, how is that any different than what happened in 2020?
Yeah, perhaps. You're right. The only difference, I suppose, will be the degree to which people
respond negatively to 2024. Yeah, i felt like that happened in 2022 yeah
i would agree there i mean 2024 i think it'll just get intense the response to it because it's two
elections in a row that they feel like they were robbed out of again but but i should say donald
trump was running and you could vote for him and the democrats just played dirty so you could argue
that was like a crack in the machine of our already busted and fake elections as it is 2024 i'm saying like you can't even vote for trump how is it an election then
yeah agreed agreed and to it to a point also 2016 was similar in that fashion just reversed with
uh the democrat party denying the election as well so i agree that it's just going to continue
to get worse and worse until we hit this breaking point.
So it's unfortunate that nobody has confidence in our elections.
And I know that we've always talked about what we can do to restore confidence in that.
But I appreciate you taking my call.
One last thing I wanted to add on to the civics test for the right to vote or selective service to right to vote.
I also think you should be a net positive taxpayer. I think that's really
important as well. Thank you guys
so much.
I don't have no hope for the election system.
I have low amounts of it
because of this behind-the-scenes tallying shit,
but when Hillary Clinton got beat by Donald Trump,
they screwed Bernie out.
And then I was like, okay, well, they're just going to set the election
for Hillary. For sure, Hillary's going to win because they screwed Bernie out. And then I was like, okay, well, they're just going to set the election for Hillary. Yeah, for sure Hillary's going to win because they screwed Bernie.
That's what the plan is.
Goodbye, everyone.
Good night.
I went to bed.
I woke up like, Trump fucking won like a gut punch.
So something's going on where we still have control.
And I think the illusion that we have no control is how we will lose.
So you got to maintain belief.
But don't expect it.
Don't expect it to go your way.
They want you to think you can't win so that you don't vote.
Exactly.
Yeah, they want you to be blackmailed.
Don't let them get that.
All right.
All right, let's talk to Olivia Claire.
How are you?
I wonder what rank you are in Bert's army now.
I think I'm still VP.
Who's this?
I don't know entirely.
Thanks for taking my call, guys.
First thing I want to say about Michigan is fuck Gretchen Whitmer.
Just want to get that
one out there first. But my question is for Taylor or anyone else that may have an answer.
Taylor, thanks for sharing my footage from the Kalamazoo, Michigan drag show back in May. I
really appreciated that. How can independent journalists get started when you at first,
you know, can't rely on an income because it's not feasible at that moment?
What's your best advice on getting started when you don't have that steady income?
You're going to have to suffer through it.
That's part of climbing the cringe mountain that I referred to earlier.
I mean, even now, I don't have a full-time income.
You know, when I do this, I travel the country.
I go to shows.
I still work for, you know, I contract for news companies.
And I still have a side job with this. So it's a constant grind, but eventually it will pay off, especially
as you continue to do this. I was full time in 2020. And then after 2021, with January 6,
it basically all my income was cut because I had a lot of federal donors within the DOJ
and Department of Homeland Security that supported my work with the riots. And after that, I mean,
all of that funding just essentially disappeared. So really, it's just grinding it out, Department of Homeland Security that supported my work with the riots. And after that, I mean,
all of that funding just essentially disappeared. So really, it's just grinding it out,
crowdfunding people that support your cause and support your journalism. That's the biggest thing that I failed to do is monetize via crowdfunding because I feel guilty almost asking my audience
for money, which you shouldn't. You really should not. I would go film things and say,
hey, if you want to keep me doing this, go here and donate money.
Yeah, but that's the biggest way is crowdfunding.
And I've seen your work.
You do amazing work.
And of course, I'm going to share it because you're helping expose the problem that I'm passionate about.
So thank you for going to that drag show and sitting through it.
I remember speaking to you about it and the repercussions mentally.
They will stick around, of course, but you just got to keep grinding it out because you've got a lot of potential and you can do anything you want.
What's your X handle?
Mine? Oh, you mean Twitter? No.
It's at OliviaClaire with three A's in Olivia and two E's in Claire.
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3 A's?
Looking it up now. Yeah, Taylor, you're going to get
your Twitter, uh... So 3 A's and then
Claire with 3 A's? No, with 2 E's.
No, just Olivia, 3 A's, and then Claire,
2 E's at the end. Oh, there it is.
Are you, you're posting stuff on, uh... yeah i'll follow you thanks yeah it was i think the craziest part of that
was the aftermath we found out that one of the quote-unquote performers was posting like straight
sodomy on their twitter profile and like connected them to this event that's a constant reoccurrence
too i mean you see this over and over again they're pedophiles they've been charged with touching children
um you know they're ex-sex workers or constant sex workers they're drug addicts i mean these are
the lowest of the lowest people that resort to these things i mean you don't have any morals
if you're shaking your penis in front of kids that's the easiest way to put it no way crazy
i can say this one one strategy is to become a member
at timcast.com submit a question have me follow you and then when you cover the news if i see it
i'll retweet it hey i'm a member tim where's my follow oh yeah hands on top dude well i'll follow
you know fuck yeah i'm like i want to pay you money but i like your independence it's one of
your most valuable attributes oh yeah absolutely man well and i love it you know like i do this
because i'm passionate about it
and because I want to make a change.
If I'm not making money, yeah, it sucks.
You know, I support my girlfriend at home
and my dogs and the house and everything,
but I'm going to make that money anyways.
I don't care how I make it.
As long as I can continue changing people's lives
and inspiring people, that's all that matters about this.
You're doing your Twitter subscriptions,
but you said it was, you're still in the waiting process.
Yeah, it's glitched out or something.
I don't know.
Twitter hasn't given it to me,
but when they do, hopefully that'll start generating stuff.
What will you put? Are you going to put workout stuff?
Yeah, yeah. That'll be more fitness, bodybuilding oriented, just because I don't want to post that
all over Twitter, right? It's for journalism, but my subscribers can see that. And yeah,
you know what I mean? Like I said, I don't like asking for money, but you need to in this industry.
You have to.
And people are so generous on the right.
They will give you money.
That's the reality of this.
If they support what you're doing, which they're going to support what you're doing,
they're going to give you money.
You just can't be scared to ask like I have been.
Yeah, that's a big thing.
And everything.
If you don't ask, it will never happen.
Yep.
Yeah, it's amazing in social media how when you ask someone to click the like button,
they're way more likely.
Oh, yeah.
They just remember or ask them to subscribe to your channel.
They are way more likely.
I am too.
I am.
But yeah, Claire, thank you.
You are freaking awesome.
And I appreciate you going and covering that show.
And if you cover anything in the future, send it to me and I'll share it out.
Yeah, I'm working on that.
Thank you guys so much.
Thank you.
Anytime.
All right.
Last but not least, we've got RJ McDougalheim us
how are you this evening hope you're well all right how you guys doing thank you very much
all right this is a good conversation you guys had earlier so this is probably gonna
pile on top of that but is this mostly for Ian? Especially with everything you guys talked about earlier in the after show,
all the corruption with the elections and everything, all that bullshit that's been going on.
How can you keep saying that you don't want to go tit for tat as far as retaliation goes and you want pardons
when the main reason we're in this mess is because people with power haven't had consequences?
Oh, sorry. Continue.
You look at Maxine Waters, she incited people to do haven't had consequences. I think, oh, sorry, continue. Like, you know, you look at like Maxine Waters,
you know, she incited people to do stuff,
no consequences, all the investigations
and everything that's going on with Trump right now.
Like, how do you expect it to stop
unless they're held accountable?
Well, I look at it like a game board kind of,
and I'm like, all right, some moves are impossible.
Some moves you can't do.
Like, you can't use the political system
to defeat political opponents. So that's the route i'm looking at like i oh you mean the
judicial system uh i would also agree with that you can't use the judicial system to defeat
political opponents um you might be able to i don't think you should you should use a political
system that's that's a problem that's what they tell you you can do but you can't really do it
they control that's what you're saying so so you can't i i don't want to go that i just won't won't try a method that i don't think can work so i'm looking
for creative ways to bring things together have joe biden and trump sit down and talk you know
like step forward so we can kind of look at like preserving our species and the pardon thing is
just i guess it's one way to do it um maybe i don't necessarily need to hit the hammer so hard
but it's nice to have Vivek in the room
and ask him about it face-to-face
and to kind of put that out into the ethos,
kind of an air of forgiveness.
And I'm obsessed with the return of Christ
and if we really could make that happen.
Christ will come when Christ is ready,
when humans are ready to receive him.
So if we could present an air of forgiveness and kindness,
maybe that will step on the gas.
Yeah, I agree with that.
But at the same time, we've tried this over and over again,
the gentle side.
That's what the right is right there, the party of defense.
That's why I got into politics and activism before journalism,
because I wanted to make a difference.
I wanted to go on the offensive.
You have to fight fire with fire.
At least when it's gone this far, I feel
like there's no other way because if you're not, you're going to get burned. And that's exactly
what I feel like is happening at least the past few years. And now you're starting to see the
right engaging culture. And that's the fire I'm talking about, especially as the culture war is
far more important than any political war, I think, because the culture is what indirectly
and directly changes people's minds regarding politics, even if they don't realize it.
That would be an example of fighting fire with water, or not with a non-fire substance, because you're using a non-political solution to solve the political problem.
Yeah, I could understand that.
I mean, I guess you can make a point of, you know, fighting fire with fire doesn't work to the extent of, look at January 6th compared to the 2020 riots, right?
That was fighting fire with fire. But to the same extent, you need a little bit of that fire inside of you because you're going to get rolled over if, you know,
the left, they don't have morals when they're going about and they're prosecuting these J6ers.
They're throwing these people in prison. I mean, I know Daniel Goodwin, he's autistic. He's
amazingly smart. All he did on January 6th was he dropped an American flag over the inauguration
stage. And he was pictured in a video in the background of Baked Alaska's video.
And he just went back to prison.
And this is an autistic kid who is genuinely an amazing person,
but they're throwing the book at him.
I mean, because these people don't care.
They want to destroy you.
They want to destroy your way of life.
So you almost have to have that same mindset, I feel like,
but in a godly way, in a righteous way.
You read the Bible.
God killed millions of people, but it was righteous and i'm not advocating to kill people
obviously but you have to fight the righteous war you have to know that god is on your side and in
this it's very self-evident whose side god is on right i'm a big fan of the meek uh they i think
they said that shall inherit the earth and the meek I used to think oh that means that they're weak no it's the people that are strong but
have restraint
and so I want the people to
fear me in that way to know that I have
the power to arrest them
but not you know so I agree
with you you need that threat I guess a
force available to you but at the same
time choose the peaceful you don't want to
you have to use that force you just want it to
linger and to have people think that it really exists when in reality it's just
the idea of that force that keeps people in line it's just a control aspect and i guess that would
be an argument as to why you would punish someone like joe biden for doing all these crimes with his
son it's because you want to preserve the essence of force or it has it has to be reminded that
there will be consequences reactions if you do something like-F-O, it's like that's
where it applies, I think.
You know, fuck around and find out.
Yeah, he definitely will.
But.
Oh man, it really
feels like that going after
these political
people with the law is not the
way. It feels like it's the wrong way.
It is the way. It is the way.
It's the only way.
It's like trying to go after Kim Jong-un
with his own military.
The only thing we have is the law.
No, we have personal force,
the force of will.
You and I could go build a house together.
We have the power of the individual.
But if you're using this personal force,
it's going to be labeled as you're committing terrorism. That's the reality of it when you're not carrying it out through the
build a road for someone and but i i mean i just i feel like there's there's a disconnect that
like you talk about wanting a lot of things and i'm not sure that the the goals are are attainable through the methods that you're talking about.
So I'm not sure what, like you mentioned earlier,
Donald Trump and Joe Biden sitting down and talking.
What does that do?
Because Donald Trump is not in a position of the power at all.
He's a former president.
And Joe Biden has no incentive to work to do anything that donald trump wants
the democrats are entirely incentivized to be to destroy him yeah against not just donald trump but
but anything that that anyone outside of the democrat party brings up and the republicans
are the same i'm not sure what the i'm not sure what the the the goal of having them sit down and
talk is like the direct highlight the humanity of having them sit down and talk is.
Like the direct goal.
I think it's to highlight the humanity of the individuals.
Because I think there is a fucking robot sometimes.
I don't think there is any humanity.
That's the thing.
That's the problem.
That's what I want to solve.
Because if you really believe that there's no humanity in the humans, I want to show you that there is.
There is, but I don't think in the DOJ and the Biden administration.
I think they lack humanity, and that's why they're doing exactly what they're doing.
It feels like it.
It feels very robotic and foreign, but I know people, like everyone I talk to, when you look in their eyes and you listen to them, they're all human.
Like, they're all there, pretty much.
And even crazy people are still there, partly, but they're not.
You know, they have issues.
They look away.
They flick their eyes and shit, but they're still there.
Vertical blinking.
So here's the things we should watch out for if the democrats use january 6th to pass any kind of laws reichstag yeah yeah
and i think they will i think fire i mean you look at who benefits come on guys it's like it's the
national security apparatus that they are the people who have benefited the most and this is
exactly what happened that happened after 9-11 the same thing, and they're going to use it. If we're tracking it all like Weimar Germany, then I would say that those willing to wield power are the ones who will win.
Which means the Democrats are going to crush, consolidate, and take over and strip power away from their opponents.
What may happen is, you know, I'm reading all this, and this is like the span of a decade plus,
if trump does
get elected but doesn't have congress which would be really weird to be completely honest but if
something happens where democrats try to make move to enact laws outside of the presidency
what happened in nazi germany was uh hitler was the chancellor he didn't have presidential
authority so they passed a bill granting them the right to pass bills without the without the president then when the president died they passed a law taking all
the powers of the president giving it to hitler yep and now we have the internet so we see these
stupid laws like this was it this but it could happen faster now yeah you got to keep vigilant
about these laws that they try to pass and make a make a lot of noise about it because in weimar
germany the population probably didn't even know that the bill was being passed until after it was signed but i think the important thing to realize too
is we often talk about spanish civil war the bolshevik revolution weimar germany etc they're
all similar for obvious reasons similar things lead to destabilization revolution and civil war
so it's not it's it's like wow all these similar things are happening well yeah these are the
things that happened pre-revolution and civil war it won't be identical to what happened in these other places
it'll have its own unique components but suffice it to say everything we've seen so far tracks
alongside all of these other revolutionary periods yeah it's never going to be the exact same but
it's very similar and they every revolution they have the almost the exact same tendencies but
something else will spark it so all that is, will people look back at this
as the Marxist revolution in the United States,
or will they call it the second civil war?
And, you know, I tweeted,
you are in a civil war.
Libby Emmons quoted and said,
do you believe this?
And some people said no.
Most people are saying yes.
And the real answer is,
we won't know until it's over.
Did it break out in fighting between two factions or
did the right lay down get steamrolled and it was a revolution yeah i have a feeling it'll be
economic a lot of it like well they all are they're all economic when you start printing
a hundred trillion and then they're like you got to get your usdc now you need it that inflation
is a component of what happened in germany in sp, people are protesting because they don't have food.
In Russia, people are protesting because they don't have food.
In Egypt, people are protesting because they don't have food.
It goes back to teaching kids how to farm.
It's all.
And that high school program, I'm telling you, that would be it.
Currently, there are efforts made by organizations like the World Trade Organization and the
WEF and stuff like that trying to
advance the idea
of degrowth
which is shrinking
the population
shrinking economies, shrinking the
consumption of
resources all because
of global warming. Degrowth
equals
is getting rid of human beings.
Well, look at the walkable cities that they're coming out with.
I mean, yeah, but the walkable cities are one thing,
but the idea of degrowth is something that people need to keep their eyes open for
because what it is literally saying is we need to have fewer people.
That means people die and they limit births.
Abortion, obviously, is one of the ways and they limit births abortion obviously is one of the ways that the
limit births but it's going to be it'll be like you know people are you qualified to have children
in the future they're going to be like well are they extremists do they have the wrong opinions
do they have you know because that's what happens in china now you know if you they they did the
whole one child policy for what was it 30 years or something like that in China?
I actually think our destabilization and the downfall of America,
we're going to start, I think, almost mirroring a lot of China's policies.
You know, it's not going to be a full-on genocide right out the bat, right?
You're going to have internment camps.
You're going to have work camps slowly popping up.
The denial that those exist, and then it just continues to escalate from there.
But it's not profitable, right, to kill the whole population at once they see us as cattle they see
us as money that's how we've always been seen to the government into these big organizations like
wef and you know the bill clinton's i mean the bill gates of the world we are nothing but money
to them and if they kill us all how are they going to make this money, right? No, they need control and to slowly lower the population to a point of where the economy is also sized and they can still continue making money, the same kind of money off of a smaller population, but maintain even more control.
There are people that are concerned monetarily, but I really think that the people that are going to be driving the efforts to shrink the economy and shrink global output of
economic activity
and shrink consumption. Those people
are ideologues. Those people actually
want to see people die because they
believe there are too many people on the planet
and they believe the earth can only sustain
a billion
or 500 million or whatever.
They're Malthusians, but they believe
wholeheartedly
that people need to die
and that we need to limit the amount of people
that are allowed to live on Earth.
Is it that they want...
They're climate terrorists, man.
When you say degrowth,
do they want, instead of a million new people every year,
they want 500,000?
Or is it that they actually want a negative net growth
and they want less people every year?
At first, it'll be a huge negative net growth.
Less people every single year.
I should say net total.
You can go to the WEF.
Decreasing growth.
You're still growing.
You can go to the
WEF's
World Economic Forum's website
and read all the papers that they have.
These aren't secrets.
This is not hidden
information. The only thing you
have to do is put the effort in to go read anyone listening no this is not secret stuff this isn't
like esoteric there's no no great like you don't have to have a special decoder ring or anything
all you need is an internet connection go to the world and schwab has detailed this stuff too yeah
in his books in the fourth industrial revolution And in the great reset
He talks about quite literally destroying
The population and cutting it more than in half
That great reset book is wild
It's crazy and people that haven't read it
They should read it because it's like
Holy shit they're literally telling you
They're going to genocide you for the betterment of them
Dude it's crazy how they say
The great reset is like a conspiracy
It's literally a book By that you can buy the dude that's what we're talking about and you're
telling me it's literally a book and then yeah well it's the same thing with the great replacement
right one party can talk about it it's real when they talk about it but when the other side the
dissenters talk about it you're anti-semitic it's conspiracy and you're racist like there's some
value to social engineering uh no, because you want to like
make sure the houses
aren't downwind
from the burn pits.
So social engineering,
you're making living
and you make industrial
and you make,
we protect the rivers.
So I understand kind of that,
but it's a slippery slope.
You got to be real careful
with trying to control
people's growth.
Did you guys know that
after Germany lost the war,
mass suicides erupted
all over Germany?
Yes.
Yeah, because they didn't
want to be caught by the Soviets
because the Soviets were like,
we gotta, we're, Soviets were not chill.
Those Soviets were rough.
They were not chill.
They were no better than the Nazis.
And a large component of what allowed Hitler to rise to power
was preaching against communism.
Against the Bolsheviks in particular.
Exactly.
Blame the communists for the Reichstag fire.
I feel like the Japanese, too, aren't talked nearly i mean about how
savage they were the experiments that they were doing one and it is insane i mean you would say
it's on par and even exceeds some of the experiments that nazi journey was they would
freeze people's they would stick people's arms break it off so that it would freeze in a in a
refrigeration unit or outside and then shatter it with a hammer. And this is all while they're alive
and awake. And they dissect them while they're alive.
It's insane. It's vivisect.
When they're alive, it's called a vivisection.
That's how we know all of our stuff about
frostbite, etc.
How we'll survive in cold water.
We gave them clemency. We quite literally said,
hey, for this information,
you guys can come chill in the US, which is exactly
what we did with the Nazi scientists, too.
It's better that, I think, that
I think the idea was better that
we take the information as opposed to all those
people suffering to be in vain, but, you know,
it's still, the brutal
reality is that's where we got the information.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah. Go ahead.
No, no, that's it.
I hope that answers your question, RJ McDougall. Yeah, alright. No, no, that's, that's it. Uh, I hope that answers your question.
RJ McDougall.
All right.
Yeah.
You guys went off on that one.
Yeah, indeed.
Taylor and Phil pretty much summed it up really good for me.
Uh, Ian, I love you, bro.
Sometimes you can be super frustrated.
That's the point, dude.
I'm the wrench in the spokes.
He's the nuance to the show, right?
Of course. Of course. Yeah. I love you guys in the spokes. He's the nuance to the show, right? Of course, of course.
Yeah, I love you guys.
Thank you very much.
Take my call.
Thanks for calling in, man.
Have a good one, bro.
Cheers.
All right, everybody.
Thanks for hanging out.
It's been a blast.
Taylor, thanks for hanging out.
Thanks for having me.
It's always a pleasure.
And for everybody who's a member,
we're going to have this Friday,
I'm just going to say it, I guess.
It's Mo Dean and Alex Stein on the Culture War.
Oh, yeah.
Hard core.
Our security company is like,
hey, we want to have someone around.
Someone to bring the hot dogs. I'm like, I don't think it's that big of a deal they're gonna fight each other i don't know who modine is i gotta take a look they will probably
try and grab each other but considering they destroyed the stage yeah the concern isn't so
much that they'll fight because they may be fooling around but like yeah like this table
weighs a thousand pounds i could see them grabbing at each other and doing a...
It's the entertainment value.
But going too far.
It's Alex Stein.
Definitely have security ready.
It's going to be wild.
All right, everybody.
We have a poster we made for it, too.
And the plan is to start putting up posters
on Monday of the personalities that are coming on,
like we did with Vosh and Charlie Kirk.
Sweet.
All right, thanks for hanging out, everybody.
We will see you all tomorrow.