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Episode Date: August 27, 2023

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Benny Johnson interviewed John Cain with some updates. And there's still some controversy surrounding this. So I want to play a portion of his interview Benny did with John Cain. John Cain, the homeowner who had his Trump sign burned. For those that aren't familiar, here's the context. Some psychotic anti-Trump Democrat was riding his bike past this guy's house. He sees a Trump 1 sign, kicks it, comes back a day later, sets it on fire, comes back three days later, sets it on fire again.

This dude's been caught. He's been charged with, was it? It was just at night. It was like four in the morning when he did. When he came back, just so people understand, the day later, it was like. But I think there was like a day gap. Oh, a day gap. Yeah, it was like the 13th and he came back on the 15th.

Okay, but it was still like 3 in the morning. Yeah. 420. 420, I'll never forget. It was 419 and then 420. So he's being charged with two misdemeanors, and here's the clip from Benny Johnson. What's going to happen to this guy? Is there any updates on will he be charged?

Will he be sued? Give us the legal effects. So some good, some bad. So the good first, my attorney worked hard and we filed a civil lawsuit against him last night. He'll be served by the Wake County sheriff today. Raleigh PD got the detective assigned to it, went and met with him. I was told that he cried and was very remorseful. But he said that he didn't know who I was. It was just anger at the Trump side.

And when the officer told me that, I said, he didn't know who I was. I'm an American. That's all I am. I don't care if I was Bill Gates or living under a bridge. I'm an American. So that told me he wasn't remorseful. He was sad he got caught. And so the Wake County district attorney, who is a Democrat, has not been a Soros-like Democrat, as far as I know,

has decided to charge him not with two felony arson, which the statute clearly applies here, 100%, but to two misdemeanor counts of injury to real property, which will carry no jail time. It is a blatant undercharge. And the basis for that, the district attorney is saying that because the sign was affixed to the ground, it's treated as real property, not personal property, which changes how they would charge in North Carolina. It is a gross miscarriage of the law. It is clearly a DA playing politics and undercharging this gentleman so that he will not serve time as he should. So it is what folks that live around here ought to think about is that what's happening here in this undercharge. So your house didn't burn. It's just a sign. It doesn't have that much value. Okay. Those things are true. But look at

any other major city in this country that has gone to hell. Look at San Francisco. What happened there? Well, they changed a misdemeanor to steal less than $1,000. So what happens? People steal less than $1,000. Look at Seattle. Look at Portland.

When you don't apply the rule of law the same to everyone and you don't actually charge a crime for what it is you encourage more of that activity and that's what this va is doing that's the point of wow it's really it's really this guy's really lucky jim white that he didn't go sightsee at the united states capitol on the morning of january 6th because he'd be in federal prison for the next 20 years but you can burn down you can light someone's home on fire effectively with their sleeping children inside and get a slap on the wrist i thought that i i thought that north carolina was a place for good old fashioned well so here's the good news uh we have um finalized the legal process to pay out the reward so that is what's that it's an old killer oh yeah yeah this is the crazy thing

like people need i don't want to go into the great the details of it but there it is it is not as simple as like oh you found the guy here's a check we can't do that you you cannot do that so talk to a lawyer uh wrote up wrote up the requisite uh, and then contacted the gentleman after we confirmed his identity with legal. And we've begun the process by which he will be paid out, which means the exact transfer of funds should happen in like the next couple of hours. Like it's hard because people are like,

why don't you just sell him or like Venmo? Because you can't. There's considerations as to what it means to offer someone a reward. And so there's like tax implications and things like that. So there's legal requirements as to how you pay them. You can't just write someone a check. Do you get taxed when you hand the reward over?

I have to pay taxes and he has to pay taxes. Yeah. You don't just get to keep, you get money. Yeah. So I'm not exactly sure how it's categorized. We just have accounting and legal taking care of it. He also had to like sign a form and then, you know, our accountants handle the money transfer, whatever. But there's the good news.

We caught the guy. He's not getting away with it. He's being sued civilly. That's something there. I'm not so sure I agree with this being an undercharge, though, because this guy, Jim White, probably has no record. And the D.A. has to consider if this guy goes into court, are they going to be lenient on him? And if I overcharge him, say two counts of arson, do they throw it out entirely and and just say that's ridiculous he burned a flag effectively arson you're you want to put him in prison for 15 years over this and they'll dismiss

it i think you're right yeah yeah i actually you know ethically think there's something to it too if he has no prior issues at all legally you give him the misdemeanors you fine him sue him whatever and then if he does it again arson this is this is pointless right but the board i mean the point that i'm making is it it doesn't really matter but like if it were a trump supporter burning biden stuff there is a strong likelihood that the prosecutor would be throwing the book at them. Domestic terrorism. And there would be. Yeah, there might be.

It might even be domestic terrorism. Yeah, honestly. But I truly, truly believe that if it were a were if the roles were reversed and it's so tiresome to say that because it's it's we live in a consistent, you know, double standard legal system, you know, that the people on the right are treated differently to people on the left. And it's just exhausting. It's true. Like Benny's right, though. If this guy went on to Capitol grounds with his bike and no lighter, he'd be in prison. Yeah.

Well, yeah. I was freaking out. Yeah. But I don't know what you guys think do you think that this uh this psychotic anti-trump guy is indicative of an escalation i don't know i i think it kind of pulled the curtain back on some of the dumb shit that's been happening and he feels super embarrassed about it. This guy, John, what's his name? John. Jim White. Jim White is the guy's, the burner. I think he's humiliated right now and will probably never do it again.

Oh, that's a lot of assumption. I am not convinced. This could just fucking wreck his peaceful, normie life. Not if he gets a light sentence. The point of not giving him a heavy sentence isn't because of what would happen to his life. It's because you don't believe that you can get the charges to stick.

So it's like the argument being made, or at least the argument that we're making as to why they wouldn't overcharge him is because they don't want to stick. Not because it's not worth it. It's still arson what do you think it seems like peak 2016 like trump derangement syndrome coming back and i think we were just talking about how the election cycle is starting to ramp up in all the various ways i don't know i mean i think i can see both sides but i don't know. I mean, I think I can see both sides, but I don't know. I think the left is very good and very into making examples out of Republicans whenever they like just deviate out of line by like 0.00001 percent. And the fact that we're even having this conversation about like, oh, what's the right thing to do here? It's because we're good people and we don't use incidents like these to really just try to destroy people's life we

try to parse through it but yeah that's that's that's a fair point actually there's probably a ton of trump supporters who on their first offense with no charges like those proud boys up in new york they get into a fight with antifa now they get they get four years this guy sets fire to a guy's property twice and it's like no jail time two times in two days he did it what the fuck yeah yeah well you know the world's ending i think it's great nah the world's good no it's all over humans are it's all it's all over uh give up we're uh no i don't know crazy people are gonna do crazy things but i certainly think expect to see more of this as we go into 2024. Sign burning.

Violence. Violence and attempted murder and arson and other crazy shit. Remember that last year or last election season, there were people that were electrifying their signs and people were grabbing them, you know? There was one story where a guy put spikes under it and then a woman hit it with her car and it busted her tires out. Oh my gosh. No step on the sack. Yeah, this actually happened to some family of mine. under it and then a woman hit it with her car and it busted her tires oh my gosh no step yeah this uh this actually happened to some family of mine people kept ripping out the trump sign so vaseline was placed all over it and then it stopped you need a trump hologram in your front yard so no one can break it a trump hologram doing that dance yeah that is the yes oh my god i want that like if i could get like you

know the dancing santas and stuff i would love because he does the same dance all the time you could totally do that like oh i would love it yeah it's great i love it we taught that guy to dance we need hologram signage now yeah no i don't think the world's actually ending i just think that you can expect to see a lot more of this coming up in 2024. The far left is going to get absolutely insane. Yep. I think this is an example of a guy did some horrible shit, burned a dude's sign in his front yard twice, and someone, some citizen, gave a shit enough to make a big deal out of it

and issue a reward to find the guy that burned the sign. That's an awesome story. Now, whether or not this guy gets the book thrown at him or not i don't know he'll probably never do it again i'd be shocked he probably is shitting himself right now for something he thought wasn't a big deal unless the da says look i hate the guy you know so i think it's funny but you know you gotta do something so we'll give you a slap on the wrist and he's probably smiling being like oh all right it's like no jail time be slapping the rest

you're gonna be fine treatment it really depends on who the the it depends on the court and the people hanging out with are gonna high five him oh yeah i think the issue is gonna be like yeah we saw the video dude fuck yeah and they're gonna fist bump him the issuing rewards to people that turn in criminals is pretty interesting it doesn't have to be like a high profile issuance every time because then it puts targets on the people that are issuing the money but like it could be a crowdfunded thing that maybe you and benny could work to set up or somebody could set something up where you could donate a dollar a month and you're putting it towards a fund what's that i'm glad benny jumped on it too i think we're the only ones aside from john who are like yo let's catch this guy yeah this is the shit that blows my mind so we want to do this

skateboard thing where i'm like we'll put 20 grand towards this let's fucking change someone's life and they're like no all three organizers hit up our guy at the same time saying no and i'm like okay but outside of that fine fuck it whatever benny down to East Palestine and he gives out 20 grand where is anyone else me and like Benny and I are not the richest people in the world we're doing well he's got a big channel with million you know million plus subs we've got our channel

million plus subs we're doing well enough to do cool shit like this to track down evil people or nasty people to give rewards to do things better for the community Where the fuck is everybody else? Rogan's doing it. He's doing his comedy club. That's kind of a benefit to society. I half agree.

He is doing the comedy club. It is a lot of work and I can respect that, but I'm saying like, you know, Rogan's got a hundred times the money that I got. He could do a lot. He could be doing bigger, crazier shit than he does. I'm not saying he has to. I'm just saying he could be doing bigger crazier shit than he does i'm not saying he has to i'm just saying he could he doesn't have to do i'm just saying where is everybody else not everybody's

motivated to influence culture the way that you are though that's one of the things that this that you do here and that's one of the reasons why like i was like oh you know i would like to be involved with what you guys got going on is because it's not just about, Oh, I'm doing a podcast, you know, and, and Joe is an influential guy, but he's not going out of his way to say, I'm going to do other creative projects.

He just wants to hang out with his friends and have conversations, which is cool and more power to him. But we're trying to fix you. Yeah. You know, that's the thing. Joe, very few people who do.

Yeah. He's not like, he doesn't do it for a political goal. And honestly, he's not really ideologically motivated. This is trying to actually have a make a mark. And so I think the reason the difference is people that are looking to try to change things are that technically kind of fall into an activist area. That's what, you know, the whole Tim Kratz, Tim Kratz project is about. And I think that Benny's probably like that whereas joe isn't really a political and someone just pointed

potato says rogan pays comics way more than normal no for sure oh solid like joe's putting the money like he's helping a lot of people and comedy mothership is really really good in affecting culture because canceled comics or comics that are scared to make jokes don't kind of worry about that with comedy mothership yeah so that's why i'm saying i half agree on that rogan issue he is doing awesome shit and his podcast alone does a lot so i'm not i'm not going to talk about joe rogan in this regard but there's a lot of other people who are on twitter who got lots of money and could be doing anything i mean come on look i i saw the videos at all for five grand benny was like count me in and i'm just like anybody else who i don't want to i don't want to start calling out all my rich

friends but like i want to talk about it like in private kind of like who who are they who are the people and like what could they be doing and i mean obviously i should put my money where my mouth is if i'm going to call people out by name so like first person comes to mind is jack pasopic what the fuck jack no i'm just kidding jack i don't i don't know rich though i don't know i don't know i don't i don't but i wonder i wonder if there's people that are sitting on like a a million dollars a month income or something that only spend uh two percent of it and they're like just accruing dot funny money right now and like what could they be doing that maybe they're even wondering what could i be doing i'm most people they make the money they store it they invest it? Maybe they're even wondering, what could I be doing? Most people, they make the money, they store it, they invest it, and then they do their

shit. Like, without calling out any individual host of any other show, there are a lot of conservative commentators and pundits who are making fuck tons of money. Not a million bucks a month, Ian. We're talking three to five million a month. Good grief. Yeah. I know how much a lot of these guys are making.

I'm not going to call them out. They can do whatever the fuck they want. I'm not gonna i know how much a lot of these guys are making i'm not gonna call them out they can do whatever the fuck they want i'm not here to drag anybody i'm just here to say i would expect more but that's that's why i'm like you gotta cut the path you're clearing the path it's basically you're clearing a path people like benny people that are doing it now this will resonate for decades and people will start picking up the the pattern well let's uh let's go to callers let's see what y'all have to say. Okie doke, indeed we shall. The Indian Jesus. I'd love to hear what your take is. How are you doing?

Hello, hello. Thank you so much for taking my question and for everything you guys do. Of course, thank you. So, my question, you know, Vivek talks about the substitution theory. Like, if you have a God-sized hole in your heart, something is going to fill it.

So my question is, why doesn't, like, the anti-war, conservative side of the culture war have something to fill it? Specifically, like, an American identity. One that says we value community, family, gratitude, the types of things that you would find within Christianity, but also, like, capitalism, patriotism, and things that, you know, it doesn't conflict with Christianity. I think there's too many leftists who hate anything religion, and so they get sucked into leftist ideology by default because they think they're the baby out with the bathwater. Because you need a mission. Are we not better off bringing

them to our side with this American identity that doesn't conflict with, you know, Christianity? You need a mission. The left. So the right has a mission. Honor God and God gives you purpose. The left has a mission. Evil white supremacy must be destroyed. The mission we would need is like go to Mars.

So we need to build a culture around a shared national identity that has a that is a is mission driven. It was a lot easier during the Cold War because we had communists to worry about. We had a collective a collective enemy. Now we don't. So these people who have no faith just say, like, please, I'm desperate. Give me purpose. And the left offers that to them. Just saying love America.

Not enough. Support the Constitution. Not enough. give me purpose and the left offers that to them just saying love america not enough support the constitution not enough it's got to be like and it's going to be hard to do when you're fighting communists but it's got to be like a grandiose collective mission that everyone predicts in so do you think that there's nothing outside because i i'm personally an atheist but like i said i have very uh i value Christian values very, very much. And, you know, I try very hard on my channel to bridge the gap. And it seems like religion is such a roadblock because, you know, because what I was saying that like so many people, and I was with this way once that like anything religion, I'm not here for it. And so everybody

on the right there, it's a God, God, God, God, God. And I, if we can all come to the same place that we believe these things, why does it matter how we came to believe those things? I'm not saying that we you're wrong, that we, we, we would need something bigger, but it, is it possible for us to have that something bigger that drives this American identity? Yeah, we have to make it. We got to win the culture war. Well, I mean, follow me on youtube guys i'm doing my best look one one of the collective uh enemies is the woke and that's why you have post-liberals libertarians conservatives they found purpose in fighting this woke machine

and the establishment etc i thought you made a good point about how religion is kind of whack and not the i don't want the words in your mouth but that i and not the i don't want to put words in your mouth but that i'm not religious i don't like i always thought it was weird watching people believe something just without proof i'm like okay i just went to science class earlier today i'm not falling for this shit but i do believe in god that's something different that came outside of the whole religious pursuit maybe because i was in a judeo-christian based society i understand became to understand what god, or maybe it's just because that's the natural order of things, that there is a God.

I don't know. But I think nothing can fill that hole. That's like, you gotta, I don't know if everyone needs to believe in God, but the religion of God are different, basically. Yeah, because I was born into the Catholic Church. I was confirmed in the methodist church and then it was my journey to try to get closer to god and read the bible that made me be like oh hey what's going on here that some of this stuff doesn't match up and luckily i wanted to be

a moral person and so i went into like moral philosophy and stuff but as we know most people when they see oh well that doesn't make sense how could this whatever in the bible that doesn't make sense so let's throw it all away christian values are stupid. I feel like we need something to combat that overarching thought that so many of them really, them meaning atheists, think that it can't be, they can't ever align themselves with anything conservative, anything Republican, anything like that, because they are not christians and and i get that feeling personally as an atheist a lot and i just push through it because i know that the values on this side of the culture war are uh objectively better but i want to make it easier to bring more secular people uh on our

side we need them have you ever tried uh approaching the ideas as if they're enlightenment values because the judeo-christian uh type of uh morality is heavily uh well is strongly compatible with enlightenment values uh heavily influenced yeah so if you have friends or or you know an impulse that's like oh you know these things that things that Christianity taught when they come out of like the, you know, the Bible or whatever, they don't have the impact for you. And that's understandable. I myself am agnostic as well. But I believe that the principles that were formed in the enlightenment or part of the enlightenment ideas was that the truth is the way to, uh, to engage with the world.

Like, so you reason and the truth is what you're looking for. And that was something that was very compatible with the Judeo Christian, uh, ideology. I mean, that's what, what Christ said.

Christ said, I'm the light, the truth and the way, um, and Judeo Christian, Judeo Christian, um, religions have never shied away from science and that's part of why the enlightenment happened in europe and started in

in the uk or well in england was because uh the the church because of the teachings that christ said christ said that he was the truth the church took that understood that as whatever you look for or whatever you're doing you need to look for the actual truth because that's where jesus is that's where god is you follow me so the the true true things that that you can can you know ascertain using reason and enlightenment process, they tend to line up strongly with the Judeo-Christian

religion. I really enjoy the presence of Christians in the modern American world because our American values override, I mean, more or less free speech overrides any religious text any american is an american first and then it feels like then the religion comes second because

like i have atheists hang out with christians and no one gives a shit we all like but we we speak our truth we speak we speak freely um and it's awesome to see the evolution of christianity from like back when they would execute someone for talking shit about god or jesus now you can like shit all over jesus's grave and you're totally fine in this fucking culture because it's you have a free speech right to do it uh and it allows for i think the the at least the the coexistence of a lot of different religions including atheism religion we got to get back to the roots of what made this country great yeah this melting pot you know diversity and uh uh you know inclusion diversity actually intellectual diversity i mean you know obviously there's no easy answer to this i really just kind of want to hear you guys thoughts and uh anybody out there like i said this is a you know a goal

that i have to literally fix the bridge between the two different realities that we have in the culture war. And I do believe that I can do it. Maybe not right now do I have the right answers, but I know for sure if I continue talking to people like you guys. I just did a show with Peter Boghossian and asked the same kind of question. And I know that I'm getting closer. And I just think if we have more people who are willing to say, okay, well see what's good with this it doesn't conflict with my religion i still have my religion but but let's see i think if we do that then then maybe maybe oh fuck yeah what's your youtube channel it's uh the indian jesus so youtube.com slash at the indian jesus official i'm live every

monday wednesday friday uh 8 p.m eastern obviously come uh you know during your guys show uh but i also do daily videos so uh come on over guys and help me with uh help me with my mission and my message thanks for calling in thank you so much for taking the call guys best wishes man cheers all right uh talk to kaba c-a-b-a how you doing hey man i am i'm doing great speaking with all of you guys i uh i think i tim i fell into um following your podcast after following work war room and natalie winters bannon was on your show and i had to hit it and I was just blown away by the format how you guys handle everything just want to say thank you

always thank you thank you thank you for watching War Room my question is so I was in the PNW I was in operations meetings we were diverting product into the hospitals that were delivering covid patients when this first broke out i i stood toe-to-toe

with people that were i'm 62 on i stood toe-to-toe people are five inches taller and you know 50 pounds heavier than me in grocery store parking lots um because i wouldn't wear a mask in the store and i just gotta know guys it seems like lockdowns are coming yep how do you protest them you just ignore them yeah you make fucking noise civil disobedience yeah i mean there's different methods i like to be the one that that uh breaks the breaks the ice so that you don't have to that's my personal tactic i'll make some fucking noise i mean i built my body to make strange sounds man and i will trick your brain into thinking i'm right by making some certain sounds that's my tactic don't don't fucking give them an inch dude yeah

i agree no comply it's really just as easy as like just ignoring it like in idaho when i was i went i went back from hollywood for a while because at first i thought yeah it's ebola it's gonna kill everybody and then i realized quite critically it's not so it's my parents a lot of the time and a lot of people just ignored it i'm sure a lot of people that are in texas they're in wyoming and etc can really relate to this and like and like what's her name lauren brown who's here last night was saying that people in alabama just ignored it after a while it's just like yeah it's just not there so i think i don't know where in the pacific northwest you are i assume it's even by pnw but uh you know like even oregon at least in east oregon and uh east washington people were

just ignoring it like yeah make me put a mask on basically it's best i can i can say to do man and understand i think to the like historical context and the moment that you're living in in other words they want you to feel like you're crazy for not believing in it right if you have the freedom the independence to actually act based off of your own thoughts as opposed to you know the segments on msnbc or cnn you pose an existential threat to their entire system, their entire regime. And I know all of this is so much easier said than done. I grew up in LA, so I know how it is to go against the grain. But I think if you use the tactic of not dissociation, but you just don't let what other people think about you and the crazy lady in the grocery store

who's going to yell at you because you're not wearing a mask it i just always take it as like a sign of how low iq they are and you sort of see the humor in it where you're just like you're so dumb and to cap it all off you actually think you're the smart one you don't even realize you're being played but i also think it's important too to like live somewhere and i don't even necessarily know if i'm talking on a city state you know even at this point country level but you know i i did move to florida when the pandemic started i was living in chicago at the time and i just i literally overnight like got a place in florida i could not live in chicago anymore i was also in college so it's like the mandates and craziness and just ridiculous but being in an area where people didn't believe it

and where the mandates weren't really a thing to some extent um i think really helped so maybe take a vacation or go i don't know somewhere yeah but yeah fuck them there's go, I don't know, somewhere. But yeah, fuck them. There's like a, I don't know how deep you get into manifestation and all that. Do we manifest in this channel now? I think so. Yeah, it's real. And like, if you believe it's not happening, if you believe a certain thing is reality is coming. I think if a lot of us believe that it's more likely.

So I won't let myself fall into the bullshit where I'm like, oh, is gonna no fuck you we make the future and we're doing it right now if people don't comply with it there's no lockdowns that's all that matters i have to say i even i hate the term like do not comply because it implies that there's going to be more lockdowns and more things that we are going to have to not comply with i think and again i know this is wishful thinking because i know how house republicans act but they need to like defund these agencies that are going to start doing whatever these mandates and rolling out this and these state colleges or you know federally funded institutions that want to start implementing mask mandates and vaccine mandates strip the funding strip the funding if we had a real government that actually acted in accordance with the people that's what they would do again will i hold my breath for

house republicans to do that heck no they can't even impeach joe biden but um i think the framing of do not comply even already seeds too much ground well we'll see about the impeachment i have a feeling that they're waiting for election year yeah me too why do it now they got they got a they got an artillery shell ready to fire and they can do it in election year but we'll see because like why isn't meant for why isn't matt gates trying to get him removed i'm like i think they know the impeachment's gonna come yeah october surprise yep yeah surprise who was that guess who i was just then anyone kamala yeah thanks for calling in good sir see you dude yeah appreciate it cheers man okay keep lifting bro oh hell yeah dude we're doing shoulders and uh shoulders and chest tomorrow no no you gotta drink that cream

cream tonight you should try pilates one day I was looking at that machine you had mentioned. What's it called? Yeah, the Reformer. Oh, the best. Maybe I'll get one. Right on. Hey, Ian. Yeah. You blowing up tonight was awesome. I love seeing that passion in you, dude.

You have such a great heart. I love you through and through. You keep fighting for all of us. We're all one race, bro. Humans. Let's go. Hell yeah, man. Yeah.

Right on, man. Thank you, man. Thanks for calling. Cheers, man. All right. we're all one race bro humans let's go hell yeah man yeah right on man thank you man thanks for calling cheers man all right uh let us talk to you flair the hate bound sick name what's up hello tim cast and natalie hello flair hi i have a question specifically for Natalie Winters. Oh, no. What are your thoughts on Vivek stating he would be open to pardoning Hunter Biden, but then that kind of leading towards the justice system seeming, you knowing off and not as trustworthy when Trump hasn't been considered a pardon in the past four years for his alleged crimes.

It just seems very weird that he would want to pardon Hunter Bideniden and not that's that's super weak i could think of hundreds if not thousands if not tens of thousands of people who deserve pardons before hunter biden i'd start with the january 6 people and of course donald trump and all the random people that they've included in all and all these indictments around him i think it sort of goes back to what we were talking about in the show earlier and as much as vivek is an outsider and i think outsiders are important i think donald trump is because he had that first term is the perfect blend of outsider but also understand how the system works right and you know that the administrative state has a very deep bench

of attacks that they have on whoever the Republican nominee is going to be. I'd argue if it's DeSantis, if it's Vivek, it's not as much as they have against Donald Trump, because I don't think they see DeSantis, the Tim Scotts, the Nikki Haley's of the world as much of an existential threat to the system as say, Donald J. Trump. But we don't, we are at such a precipice right now where I don't think we have time for someone like Vivek, who is just an untested individual in the from his missteps. I don't think he's a perfect person. I think he did make some inaccuracies in the way that he went about trying to curtail the deep state. But I think when you look at the policy platforms that he's been putting out now, I think you see someone who is motivated by the right motivators,

particularly retribution and revenge. But if you really drill down and, you know, I'm fortunate living in D.C. that I talk to a lot of people who are on the campaign and even sort of Project 2025, which was spun out of the presidential personnel office of the Trump administration. The second half, this was after the first impeachment when they really reoriented it to get in more Trump loyalists in there, which I think Trump did learn a lot from that first impeachment. These are the people like Johnny McEntee, James Bacon. All of these people are clinically studying the administrative state, how it's formed. They're part of that Trump group that out of the DOJ created the ideas of how to kind of work around the civil service protections

to offshore and outsource these people to Alaska and these different states, move the FBI, all of this stuff. So Trump, but also the people that he has surrounded himself with and has continued to elevate, like Johnny McEntee is a perfect example. They really, with a fine tooth comb, are honing the tools and the weapons that they need to go against the administrative state. And I think the comment that you brought up by Vivek is just sort of an example. We don't have time for games. I he's very flashy he's very articulate and as someone who loves the english language i appreciate his syntax and diction and word choice it's amazing but we need someone who is ready to fight because we are at war whether or not we know it the vague vp i think t Tucker would be better

but yeah I like Tucker VP what was that you said? Vivek's just untested in my opinion I agree I agree I like Vivek a lot he could be great he's a CEO like a billionaire CEO so that's my well he's like worth like 800 million or 700 million you should look up

who they sold the company to it's sort of weird it was loosely linked or 700 million or something. You should look up who they sold the company to. It's sort of weird. Who did they sell the company to? It was loosely linked to Sequoia Capital, which I feel bad detracting from this nice person who wanted to ask me a question. We're totally going off the rails. But Sequoia Capital is very intimately linked

to the Chinese Communist Party. And this is not just classic Natalie China fear-mongering, but Sequoia Capital has weaponized in how they donate to a lot of political candidates, particularly on the Republican side. If you look, there's a really large controversy, not in conspiracy land, but genuinely over Mike Turner, Kevin McCarthy, how they've taken money from sequoia capital um and in turn they've sort of shut down a lot of investigations not just into sequoia capital but into the chinese communist party's infiltration into the united states particularly devin nunez's um investigation

um back this was back in in 2018 um and i think it's very shady that there are some sequoia ties to the parent company that bought vivek's company again it's not even like you can nickel and you know pinpoint cherry pick little things about vivek's resume that are weird i'm not saying the guy's like a weird deep state plan i'm not saying i just think we are at a time right now i wish we had the luxury to experiment with someone like him and see what it would be like if he were in the Oval Office, right, for four years. But we don't have the time. And frankly, I think Donald Trump is the incumbent, right? We don't have to get into that.

But I think, like I said, all of those people running are doing a disservice to the Republican ground game in 2024. But it's disrespectful to Donald J. Trump because the Republican Party is his. 2020 election aside it's still his yeah yeah that pretty much sums it up i just thought it was weird that he wanted to pardon the biden's or hunter especially when no one's given trump a special special council as he put it in the New York Post. And remember, Trump announced he is going to appoint a special council

to look into the Bidens. Vivek said he was going to pardon Trump. I think that was his first pardon the day he got sworn in. He would do that. From what I can tell, and I know you asked Natalie the question, is that he's looking at some cross-line ceasefire just so that we can move forward as a unit i think that's the the basis of the tactic

pandemic amnesty no yes giving anthony fauci a pardon let it go everyone except him no way no pardons for those i'm so done with torching shit man let's just make a better future pardon them imagine what they're gonna do next time then they burn right now is the potential next time but what if you give them what are the consequences of pardoning them right so like we because we write the the timeline we just said is they did something bad we pardon them then there's what if they do it again but what and then you say we burn them but what you're missing is literally how many people die because of what they do again how many lives do they ruin how many people have to watch their parents die behind a glass window the point isn't like let them keep messing up and and give them chances the point is to prevent them

from hurting other people because they hurt people they destroyed lives their actions ruined the lives of people people's parents died alone spent their last moments suffering alone because of fauci and because of the behaviors of the government yeah like so so there should be no pardons there should be no forgiveness there should be tribe there should be investigations trials and imprisonments maybe for some people yeah yeah because because there's there has to be repercussions for the things that they've done not just like well last time you were really bad so we're going to give you another shot and then if you do it again look out i think one one idea is that you expose what they did because a lot of people don't know that fauci had bot flies experimenting on dogs heads where they were consuming dogs

alive or that he was funding eco health alliance which was funding covid and they created a bioweapon they don't know so you it's not there well but what vivek was saying and what i agree with is that you expose them you tell the entire world what they did then you pardon them and then you let the fucking masses take care of them yeah yeah if the culties will listen to it then i also think those people are very sensitive to the court of public opinion they're very into the concept of legacy like that's something that i think anthony fauci gets up every day like with the anthony fauci doll on his backdrop right he wants to preserve his legacy and he i'm sure so rattled by the fact that half of this

country would argue probably more than half this country when they hear the word anthony fauci there is a connotation that that comes with that that is negative and that wasn't it wasn't totally like that maybe within the aids community it was like that before covid but i think we also underestimate the fact that that really gets under his skin do i think he should be rotting in solitary uh heck yeah but on the legacy side of things, I think that matters a lot to this. All right, man. Thanks for calling in, sir.

Yeah, no problem, Tim. Appreciate all that you do and hope to talk to you again soon. Right on, man. Flare the hate bound, ladies and gentlemen. Yeah, that's right. Later. Later, Flare.

Let's talk to Maximus. No, Joey Cannoli wants to go last. So we're going to talk to Maximus here. Maximus, how you doing? Good. I was just calling in to see if mainly Tim would be interested in

doing a segment kind of spaced out from your daily content where for example, you could go into the impeachment of donald trump and cover from the very beginning each individual item like hillary clinton paying for uh information that was false to be used to impeach him and walking through exactly what happens step by step by step with less opinion thrown in there oh that sounds like a job for those people sounds like a job for hannah claire

that's what i was thinking like yeah yeah absolutely we've talked about it with her essentially to reach out to the people on the left that don't want to hear opinion and will more so turn their heads when they hear factual information that's that i think that's your we we've talked about doing it and uh i think we want to do it yeah have hannah clare do deep dives that are just like straightforward write it out put clips on show all the sources and break it down yeah but that to me if i just personally i think that a lot of people are gonna look at the facts they're not gonna care about the facts they really care about their feelings more than facts sure but if someone's like let me show you this video you can watch it and it's a yeah like a blanket news report they

can send to a family member that makes sense that said to caveat what i just said at the same time people don't know this stuff at all they have no exposure to this which is why we need a non-opinion non-esoteric approach to it yep totally yeah thanks dude thanks for kicking the spurs into the horse yeah that's a good idea man yeah yeah i'm absolutely and then uh one last little thing i definitely want to see an interview between paul sammits and ian oh i'd love to he's the like the world leading mycologist the mushroom scientist that guy's brilliant he's been on rogan's podcast before i love him so much and I would love to do a show with him. Thank you. Well, thank you, Max.

Absolutely. Right on. All right. Thanks for calling in. I'll talk to Hannah Clare. We'll see if we can get that going. Hey, thank you. You guys have a good night.

Right on, man. Have a good one. Appreciate it. Likewise, man. All right. And last but not least, Joey Canole. How are you? It is I, Joey Canole from the Discord.

You're a residential rapper so i have a question for you guys and then i have one for miss natalie winters so my question is as a native degenerate total miscreant from the grimy streets of new york i see the talk of mandates coming back but i see nothing indicating any enforcement being in manhattan i see nobody wearing masks anymore. I see no precautions. The elites have tried to do the COVID scare before after the initial time, and it fell on deaf ears.

I don't think it'll happen again. Do you guys feel like you need to exaggerate the point to keep people on their toes? No. I said this during the show. I think they will come out and say, we're not going to force or mandate it, but we're going to issue these

guidelines and then they'll use that as a pretext for mail-in voting yeah but like i don't think people are going to be afraid to go outside i mean they're going to do the mail-in voting anyway they already passed those things as laws anyway right and then and they'll need another uh they'll use another excuse they'll they'll make another crisis that's what i was saying earlier i'm not entirely convinced that it will you know i'm they're they're bringing it back in some respects already we are seeing like like we showed the uh they've already got vax mandates heavily in effect that have stayed in effect some covid policies have never gone away they're bringing it back at uh what was it that uh that university in georgia yep they brought it back to two

hospitals in new york and so i don't think it's exaggerating the point to be like hey look these institutions are literally doing this thing keep an eye out because they might try to bring this shit back yeah it's true i just you know in the beginning of covid when i was in new york there was just like everyone was wearing a mask i even even saw kids at the park wearing masks and now it's like nobody's even fucking thinking about it. Red Hope Experiment.

They drop you in the cylinder, make you freak out, pick you up, draw you off, make you think everything's fine. Then they drop the hammer and you swim for 60 hours before dying. Yeah, I just don't think the hammer is going to fall. The vibe I'm getting is that people are over it. Yeah, man, you can't centrally plan the human consciousness.

No, I think to assume that desperate, failing political elites would just be like, well, we give up is probably the wrong way to look at it. Oh, they're not going to give up. They're going to do something else. They're going to try another plan. I don't think they can do the COVID card again. I bet they could. I don't think so. Maybe it'll be climate lockdowns, but I don't think they can do the covet card again i bet they maybe it'll be maybe it'll be i don't think so maybe it'll be climate lockdowns but i don't think they can pull the covet card again but who says it's going to be coveted they're going to say ba286 they're going to

they're going to make up some psycho bullshit another one it's but the point is we even talked about climate lockdowns the idea that we only just said they're going to lock down because of covet is not what our conversation was we said they'll use it as an excuse to roll out or expand mail-in voting they might they probably won't force anyone to do anything because it's not going to work or they'll try climate lockdowns which was what we talked about climate lockdowns are probably more likely but for covid i think we're over that yeah the smog's a big one because i said the smog's going to come back and they've already primed everyone to be scared of it and i gotta be honest smog the a big one because they said the smog's gonna come back and they've already primed everyone to be scared of it.

And I gotta be honest, smog, the smoke that came through, it was incapacitating. Yeah. No question. I walked in this studio and it was smoky in here because of the way our ventilation worked. We had to fucking tape up the vents. Fucking crazy. And I was having trouble breathing and Bocas was hyperventilating

and struggling to breathe. Dude, it was fucked. And they're gonna be like, everyone stay inside. The smog is super high. The particulates are bad. You can't go outside anymore. The desolation of smog. Alright, so before I ask my next question, I just want to say

I'm hosting the After Dark in Discord with Olivia Clare after this. Sweet. So my question for Miss Natalie Winters is, what's a fellow like me got to do to holler at you? Apparently call into the after show. Be a member at TimGast.com. There's your new ad.

That's very nice of you. I appreciate that. You can find me on Twitter at Natalie G Winters. I'm already following you everywhere. You got to follow me back. You can DM me on Instagram and I will take a look. She just opened the DM, dude. Slide in easy.

Be a gentleman. I do this right now. Be a gentleman. Be polite. We just broke up with the boyfriend, so you never know. How long was the relationship? Very complicated question. On and off.

I've been through that. I was actually supposed to be on a flight literally right now to Paris. Instead, I'm here. Well, we got lucky then. So, yeah, thank you. I sent you a message you gotta accept something now there you go well right on man

I'd say thanks for calling in but I think you got the favor out of this one yeah for real I was just gonna say you can check my my bio on discord and go listen to the song I have uploaded right on man well thanks for calling in thank you for letting me call cheers man enjoy the late show all right see you that's so cool that everyone

does they do that after dark show on the display that's awesome i'm glad we i'm glad this is working out this is really cool uh natalie thanks for hanging out it's been a blast thank you for having me i'm happy to come back anytime absolutely and uh for all you members seriously thank you so much uh i don't know what's going on this gay thing i. I'll probably have a more definitive answer tomorrow. It seems like we probably just won't do it. Because I'm just like, I'm not going to fight someone to give money to people. And if the people have a problem, like they were looking forward to the money, ain't nothing I can do about it

if the people who are running it don't want us involved. I'm just going to be like, alright dude, we'll take our money and we'll go do our own skate contest. With Blackjack. And hookers. Yeah! And Futurama references, but no actual Blackjack and hookers. But we And Futurama references, but no actual blackjack and hookers.

But we're talking about just doing our own skate jam and contest with ridiculous cash prizes. And we've got a bunch of pro skateboarders who are already

interested in coming out. So let them do their woke little shenanigans, whatever. And I got no beef. But I appreciate it. You guys as members allow us to do

these kinds of things and we're going to do more. So thanks for hanging out and we'll see y'all tomorrow.