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Regular updates awaits further details from local authorities.
Oh, am I supposed to be talking?
I can talk, but I don't have new information.
I'm seeing unconfirmed reports.
Given the shelter in place currently under the APS,
all in Androscala County to allow first responders
to address the threat, stay indoors,
and report any suspicious behavior
to the local authorities.
Also getting this statement tonight,
Congressman Jared Golden issuing a statement
saying the current active shooter situation in Lewiston,
quote, like all Mainers, I'm horrified by the events in Lewiston tonight this is my hometown right now all of us are
looking to local law enforcement as they gain control of the situation and gather information
our hearts break for those who are affected we encourage everyone to follow the directions of
the authorities as they conduct their work we want to show you some of this video that was taken by
our crews who first arrived in Lewiston tonight. You can see just blue lights pretty much everywhere.
Okay, that's not helping. Let's see if we can... It's not helping. I'm seeing something from Raw
Reporting, which I don't know if that's accurate. I have no idea if that's accurate. They're saying
that police have issued a be on the lookout for a person who is driving
a 2013 white Subaru
Outback. White Subaru.
But I don't know if that's, I don't know
this account, so I don't know if that's accurate.
I've heard that as well from a couple of people.
Okay, so there's one photo that people are posting.
I'm seeing this
Ron retweeted it.
I don't know if this mugshot is correct
though. Is this in Spanish?
Well, it seems to be
it's from centralmaine.com.
Robert Card.
That's Robert Card,
who doesn't look particularly Mideastern to me.
He does not. He looks Asian.
If anything. He looks half Asian.
Is it this one?
Yeah.
Let's see if I can pull this one up on...
We'll pull this one up.
It looks like he may be...
He looks half Asian.
Where are you looking?
There's a tweet.
Is this the one that Ron tweeted?
Yes.
He just tweeted this?
Yeah.
All right, here's what my Twitter looks like.
What do we have here?
There we go.
That's what I'm seeing, too.
So that second photograph
on the right
is actually from
his indictment
as from what it's saying
a child
had child sexual material.
But we don't have
confirmation on that.
Right.
We don't have confirmation
that that's the same guy.
And this doesn't look
like the same guy.
It doesn't look like
the same guy.
That's the same guy.
Look at this guy's nose.
That's a very different nose.
Yeah.
That's what
Hannah is saying too
because I sent her the...
And look at the hair.
...the pedo thing a while ago
and she was like,
no, that's not the same guy.
No, it's not the same guy.
Yeah, I was like,
I don't know.
I'm checking it out.
The hair is curly.
Phil retweeted...
Yeah, there's a long face versus...
There's a person that's...
Yeah, Phil posted...
They told me there's a guy
that's actually on the scene there.
Just to shut him out.
His name was something
very long and difficult to read.
Let's see. His name was something very long and difficult to read. Let's see.
His name was...
Let me read this here.
Phil retweeted something you said?
Yeah, there's a guy that's there on the ground.
Those noses are very, very different.
Dominius Brandonus Elias Dicius.
It's on the ground.
This actually does look more like it might be the guy,
but he's got short hair and he's shaved,
so we don't know for sure.
But this is the wrong guy.
That's a different guy.
People are getting this confused.
And it's easy to get it confused.
That's why you have to just chill.
It's better to be accurate than first.
Well, that's the problem with the world.
That's the problem with the world we live in now.
Because people don't see a lot of
desire to be right. They desire to be see a lot of desire to be right.
They desire to be first a lot of times, especially
online.
Yeah, I don't think that's the same guy.
I wonder what his
background is here.
It's of course
trending on Twitter.
You know what? It might be fruitful for
us to maybe discuss this shooting
at another show.
Because we don't know anything.
We don't know.
Yeah.
Well, we have this photo right here
and I can tell you,
this guy right here,
that is not that Asian looking dude.
No.
It sure doesn't seem that way, does it?
Is it a bowling alley?
Yeah, a bowling alley
and then a nearby bar, I think, or the place.
Oh, this is so annoying.
Phil keeps retweeting this shit.
Come on, Phil.
This is the wrong guy.
Yeah.
Wrong guy.
This photo looks like it might be him.
It looks like it.
But the Robert W. Card in that other photo. Robert W. Card.
Very, very different dude. Central Maine.
Well, and of course, Robert W. Card
from the 2016.
He's just like, no. No, don't have
my same name, dude. Please.
Literally everybody with that name is like, please no.
It's enough, please.
Don't drag out my past crimes.
Yeah.
Sick, sick, sick.
Yeah, sad.
Yeah, overlapping sickos.
Don't confuse the mass murderer
for the child porn guy.
I mean, if the child
porn guy has paid his debt to society,
then there's no reason
to drag his name through the mud more.
If he's done his time.
So, Marissa, actually, so we are still here, of course,
at Central Maine Medical Center,
but it has quieted down a little as we'll look over here.
And you can see no families outside.
They were moved to a different location.
Still a very heavy security over over here there's officers with long
guns security officers as well with long guns patrolling the sidewalks as well as the entrances
here and just some context for those of you just tuning in on fox 23 we've been here for uh you
know more than an hour we've had a crew here and there have been life lights going in but there
also have been helicopters circling the area as well and
One security officer telling us that that is you know a sign that that is still very much an active situation
But when there were families here there were you know a few dozen people out here
Trying to get in touch with their loved ones inside. I talked to two different people one of them had a
Son here that was inside. They said he was at Schmingy's. I know we have a crew over there. He said his son
was sitting right in Schmingy's and he heard about the situation, called his son, hasn't been able to
get in touch with him. Another woman we met who lives right here in Lewiston, she has a son who
was at the bowling alley and was not able to get in touch with him as well.
There were tears, of course, and a lot of people just on their toes trying to figure out what's going on.
Like I mentioned, I can't say it again enough, an active situation. So hopefully everybody is certainly staying safe and following that shelter-in-place order that we're learning about from the city.
And Johnny, you said the families, obviously a large number of family members,
just anxiously in anguish waiting for information about their loved ones, hoping to get good
news but not sure what's happening.
They were outside, you said earlier.
To your knowledge, were they ushered into the hospital or were they dispersed to someplace
else?
So where did those family members go?
So as for that entrance we've been showing you Greg, they did not go inside of that entrance, but certainly a significant campus here at Central Maine Med.
I actually was having trouble hearing you. I just got a public safety alert on my phone.
Mike, behind the camera here, I'm not sure if you can zoom in and find this for you, but it says Androscog and county officials have issued a county-wide shelter-in-place order.
This, again, an emergency alert coming to my phone.
Please make sure your homes and vehicles are secured.
Updates from officials will be provided.
So, again, that just coming into my phone here.
Now a public safety alert for all of Androscoggin County,
as we heard Senator King say say like you guys mentioned as well
that's good to know johnny again uh we've already heard lewiston first then auburn second now
andrew scoggin county wide telling people until they know where this guy is uh they're telling
people to you know obviously exercise so they don't really know anything caution yeah it's crazy
to you obviously i'm glad so let's uh we'll just wait for that press conference i mean we can we
can pull in callers while we're waiting for the press conference
Kellen's currently listening to the police scanners
And stuff like that
Apparently they're shooting on Route 196
So if anyone's traveling on Route 196
Be ready to be stopped
Sounds like this guy might get away
Also they were circling a boat ramp
This is from what Kellen's telling me
Circling a boat ramp seeing if he took a boat to escape
Maine obviously
To escape Maine Isn't it central Maine though? me circling a boat ramp seeing if he took a boat to escape um maine obviously probably
isn't central maine though yeah i wonder i mean there's lakes and things yeah exactly
it wouldn't be able to go too far right uh all right let's see here um
uh brockman jay i can't read the rest of your name that's all i can see right there you're
with us right now. How are you?
Hey, how's it going, guys?
I'm doing pretty good.
Aside from this mass shooting.
Yeah, for real.
Crazy. Wait, wait. Aside from the mass shooting, it's going very poorly.
World War III is on the horizon.
Okay, anyway, how are you doing?
I'm doing all right.
Thank you guys for taking my call.
I really appreciate it.
You guys are awesome. Everything you do. My question is with everything that's been happening,
do you think that China has been working directly with Iran and Russia covertly in many different
world stages in order to weaken the US and take it over from the inside and outside? And if so, how do you think
it's happening? Got to break that apart. Is China trying to subvert the United States from the
inside and outside? Yes. Are they working with Iran to do it? I mean, maybe a little bit.
China's likely working with Iran for a specific facet of how they want to take down the United
States. But I don't think it's like china iran teamed up to do this whole plan i would be very surprised if china and iran is a deep um alliance uh i would be too i would
think that yeah i would i would think, that mean a lot of interests that China,
you know, that mean a lot to China,
including the way it treats its Muslims.
That's an interesting point.
Well, I mean, I guess Iran is part of the BRICS nations now.
So in that sense, they are,
they have formed some kind of an alliance.
And the U.S. has asked China to influence Iran
and the whole Middle East situation.
Yeah, that's a really, really smart ask.
Yeah.
So there have been, like, definitely public...
Has anyone considered asking this guy,
the shooter in Maine, by the way, to just, you know, to influence?
He should probably get involved.
Definitely.
Especially if he's, you know, considered to believe swarthy, I suppose.
I don't know.
He doesn't look that swarthy in these pictures.
He doesn't actually, Tessie, at all.
No, he does.
Does he?
You think so?
How so?
That's what it means.
Swarthy?
Yeah, it's like.
It means darker than you and me.
Right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He looks like he has light colored hair, though, in those pictures.
No, no, no, no.
You can't say that.
We got photos of him right here. Okay. Yeah, it's like he has light colored hair though in those pictures. No, no, no, no. You can't say that. We got photos of him right here.
Okay.
Yeah, it's like he could be Middle Eastern.
But his name is Mark Card.
Mark?
Robert?
Oh, maybe, I mean, Robert Card.
But maybe it isn't.
Maybe it isn't.
Yeah, we don't know.
Well, his name may be Robert Card, but there's a different Robert Card.
There's Robert W. Card.
Yep.
And that guy looks Asian.
This guy's finally snapped
because everyone keeps calling him a pedo that's it that's his motivation he's just a killer now
but uh we're back to the back to our caller do you have a question yes i mean add
yeah so some of the context is just a lot of the stuff that you guys have been covering lately is there were U.S. weapons found out that Moss were using.
Apparently, Iran has been.
We don't we don't we don't know that for sure.
Confirmed. Yeah.
I don't remember that being confirmed at all.
Yeah.
So, you know, you guys have also reported that China has reportedly wanted to drag u.s into the u.s
into a hot conflict before and there's been sorry on four fronts right so if they've already gotten
our southern border or gotten through our southern border um pull us to taiwan pull us to Israel, and they've already pulled us into Ukraine,
which covers Russia, China, Iran,
and whoever else would like to be involved in that.
It seems like they could possibly be working together
to spread us thin.
It's bricks.
It's not just China and Iran.
I mean, they all have a vested interest in taking the U S down.
We've got a generation.
We got a generation of young people who don't want jobs and are claiming that they, they
won't be drafted.
I just love this.
These people who vote Democrat, then say, go, go draft the conservatives.
No, we voted against this.
You're first buddy.
I'm going to make sure all these young Gen Z people who voted Democrat, bro,, go draft the conservatives. No, we voted against this. You're first, buddy. I'm going to make sure all these young Gen Z people
who voted Democrat, bro, you are first in line.
I am going to
work with our good men and women in uniform
to figure out where you went.
I mean, you voted for the war. Don't run away from it
now.
I'm going to knock on your door for you.
I'm currently 30
and trying to start a family with my fiancee
and don't want to get dragged into any.
Nah, you're 30.
You're good.
You're probably good, yeah.
You're good.
I mean, only if it really gets bad do they start moving up to the 30s.
Yeah.
Start a family with your wife.
That sounds nice.
Marry her.
We're trying to.
Shout out to my fiancee, Danielle.
Love you.
Danielle, make an honest marriage of him.
No babies for
fiances
babies for wives only
seems fair we've got a lot
of sick families so we're trying to get
everything to line up to get married and make
sure everybody's there but if a child
comes first we're more than happy to bring that
child comes first and you must by all
means bring him into the world, or her, by all
means. Blessings to you, all the best.
Cheers, brother. They're shutting
down schools in Lewiston. Thanks for calling
in, man.
Best of luck as well.
Yeah, apparently there's 10 shooters there
that I haven't seen that, someone in the chat mentioned that, I haven't
seen that mentioned anywhere else, the 10
shooters thing, but yeah, there's 10 schools.
Yeah, I haven't seen that mentioned anywhere else. So, listen, we have there's 10 shooters yeah i haven't seen that much anywhere else so listen we have to recognize at least one arrested apparently
every place in america and most places in most places of the world are vulnerable
to lunatics yeah that's always going to be true We can't solve every problem and we can't anticipate every problem
and I don't think it's necessarily southern
border security that is the problem, although it certainly doesn't help.
Yeah, I don't think it helps.
I would like to see what Doom Machine thinks.
Doom Machine, how are you tonight?
I'm doing well.
Great.
Long-time listener, third-time caller.
Yeah, I recognize his voice.
Yeah, I remember you for the first couple times.
How are you doing?
First off, I'd like to apologize from the state of north dakota for doug bergham
no don't apologize i'm a burger maniac you don't have to apologize for anything man
i'm all about it i'm on board did you get your uh um did you spend donate your one dollar to
get your 20 gas card no i probably go around to get into the debate can i even get the gas card if i would
i might do it but i think so still hmm all right we'll look into that i'm gonna i'm gonna put a
post down right now anyway it's expensive it is anyway what's on to on to my questions for ron
hi um so our uh our local teachers union recently brought a grievance against the district superintendent.
And at a special meeting two weeks ago, both parties were represented by legal counsel,
and the school board voted, they had a quorum, and they voted to side with the union's grievance.
That was two weeks ago.
Last night, they voted to change their mind
and side with the superintendent without legal counsel present.
So does that put them in a sticky situation
if they made a decision with legal counsel
and then just changed their mind two weeks later,
thus basically nullifying their previous decision.
You raise a good question, but there are too many unknown, to me um possibilities i don't know procedurally why it was before them again the
second time i also don't really know municipal law i can i can explain why it went before him
a second time okay okay so on the first in the first special meeting they um the someone in the first special meeting, they, um, the, someone in the, uh, someone on the board voted
or moved to, uh, dismiss the grievance of the union and that failed. And the president of the
school board said, motion failed the grievance for the for the teachers union stands
and that was the end of the meeting then they looked at council nobody said anything and then
they're like well meeting adjourned so their rationale for bringing it again last night
was that they never took an action in the affirmative this is a mess and i don't also
understand why a union grievance is being decided by in this in that fashion there's gonna i think
the the the question you're asking is probably going to be the subject of some claim, some motion, some additional grievance, some, you know, it sounds like, listen, most school boards are run by people of the best of intentions who are not experts in the legal niceties of these sorts of things going on and if they have a good
counsel for the board he or she will manage things so that
procedurally errors are not made but it's a lot it's a big ask i'm sure there's going to be a
a lot of opportunity for lawyers to be heard on this subject i want to just mention people are
putting out a bunch of different videos
claiming he was arrested. The videos are all from different angles
in different places. These are not real.
The first thing you'll notice in some
of these videos are that his pants and shirt
are different. That's the most obvious thing.
One's got a guy wearing all blue.
Maybe he changed his clothes.
Not likely. Another video. These are random
accounts tweeting this out. It's an overhead shot
where a guy's getting arrested. People are likely
just finding... What the hell is this?
Oh my goodness.
Well, alright, well, let's
uh, let's... We found some locals.
There was a girl down here.
I just wanted to say thank you very much.
All got shot up.
Yeah, thanks.
I'm sorry I interrupted.
What was it on the screen?
Locals. What was it? That's a good question. I'm sorry I interrupted. What was it on the screen? I could just feel the vibes from other people.
It's clearly a woman.
So, yeah, this is not good.
And you said you have family and you've been able to contact them?
My family knows all about it. Thank God my son has technology where he has a smartphone.
So he's got the scanner and he's following it all.
So I've had all my friends on the phone with me to make sure they're safe.
I told them, lock your doors, lock your windows,
because you don't know what this person is capable of.
And there is a shelter in place, but you said you're here in the hospital
just to pray for these people.
Yep, I'm doing a lot of praying.
God's on overtime.
Because I have a funny feeling there's going to be a lot of people
that might not survive, right from what I've heard.
Have you talked to some of the families down there?
Yeah, a little bit.
Like I said, there's one girl down there.
There's five people.
She just whipped out five names of people that they, you know.
And they brought in somebody in a vehicle that was shot right from the pickup.
Wow.
Took him right in the hospital.
I can't believe that there are people tweeting out these videos, dude.
I just, I know I can believe it.
Breaking news.
The mass shooter was arrested.
Bro, you're posting a video of a guy wearing a blue jumpsuit getting arrested.
And it's one, it's two seconds long.
I just can't believe people are like,
there's a bunch of different
videos, different angles.
One is overhead, and it's a guy on the middle of the road
wearing blue jeans. The guy in the photo
shooting these things up was wearing dark pants,
not light blue jeans.
This other video shows a guy wearing all blue.
They're two different locations completely, and people
are just like, yup, here it is man this is this is so brutal fortunately people are showing that the
other asian a pedophile is not the shooter but people keep posting a bunch of these different
videos wow man these videos of card look like the guy yeah it's all for clicks no i just people are just
taking advantage of the situation in some cases and others it's crazy that people are
posting this stuff disinformation you know
it's just retweeting a random video dude
well uh fake video fake video 20 000 followers dude even follows Am I going to have to start messaging these people being like,
what the fuck are you doing, bro?
Stop doing that.
Here's another video claiming they got him.
What is this one?
Nope.
This is just a video of an ambulance
at the hospital and they're claiming it's it's
he was arrested yeah i don't think any of that is people are saying the dude was in the army
this stuff is not helpful to do yeah indeed yeah everyone's just spamming the same fake videos
should i speak the next caller yeah let's pull the next caller? Yeah, let's call the next caller Fire Guard Vulcan, you're live, how you doing?
How's it going guys, you hear me?
Yeah, loud and clear
Alright, mine's a little off topic
I wasn't expecting all this to go down
It's not a nice topic to be on
But since we have a lawyer
These plea deals
They seem to not be
What they are on the front.
You mean the Georgia?
Given the fact that the media has lied to us multiple times.
You mean the Georgia stuff?
Do you think we should believe all that they are saying?
And have you read the court documents about the actual plea deals?
And what would you think would happen if the left found out that they aren't exactly what they seem?
Because from what I've read, the judge is not putting in a guilty or not guilty plea. He's putting
in a dismissal. You're saying that
right, and that's the terms of the probation.
That's normal. Yeah, they're going to dismiss it.
Sometimes in terms of probation, you still get guilty, but you don't go to jail.
This one is just dismissing all charges.
Well, Ron, you're a lawyer.
I am.
What is the question? Ellis, the judge is dismissing the charges in exchange for five years probation, 1,000,
what is it, 100 community service hours?
It's like 100, right?
Yes, because they're not technically guilty, please.
The judge isn't accepting them as guilty.
He's putting them in deferment for dismissal.
My understanding is that is normal when you are getting probation on a first offense.
When I got charged with
driving a suspended license i was explicitly told you plead guilty to the court it is recorded as
guilty and then after six months it is removed from your record in other words it's not a
conviction it is a guilty plea but it's not a conviction and um that is different from a dismissal, but that is something that could be negotiated.
But as because I believe it's deferred is what the documents actually say.
Yeah, it's a deferral.
Right.
That's that's but that's that's that's probation.
She has to fulfill the conditions of the probation.
It won't be dismissed until the six months passes and she
has fulfilled those conditions this is this is semantics yes that's right yeah she's pleaded
guilty to the crime admitted to the court apologized and is being punished for it
and the legal language is deferred and dismissed upon completion of the terms uh i i was arrested
charged i bonded and went to court
and was told if I plead guilty to driving on a suspended license, it will eventually be completely
removed from my record. My rec now, when I'm asked by any potential employer, have you ever been
convicted of a crime? The answer is no, because it's off my record and removed pending, uh,
following court supervision. That's, that's like a normal thing, but it still means that I went into court and I,
I was not convicted,
pleaded guilty,
accepted the punishment,
$150 fine.
And that was the end of it.
Okay.
I was just making sure.
Cause it seems weird that they're going to dismiss these charges,
but the news of course won't report that.
But that,
but,
but understand dismiss doesn't mean she's not guilty.
The dismiss means like upon completion of the terms, the case is settled, basically.
But more importantly, the thing she's giving, all that matters is culture.
Politics is downstream from culture.
When she stood up in court and said, I did it and I'm sorry, it was done.
After that, they could have bought her a chocolate cheesecake and given her a high five she backstabbed donald trump she she beat she uh look either she
betrayed this country when she took a case knowing it was fraudulent and and and that she was lying
she wrote to the colorado bar apparently that she knew she was she was using false statements
or whatever so either she intentionally fucked all of us by lying to the American people
to try and help Trump when she knew it was wrong, or
she's betraying the Constitution when she actually
was doing her duty, but is terrified now
and is trying to save her ass.
Don't, don't, don't get...
My upcoming question would be
if the lawyer was lying and then lying to Trump,
wouldn't that
give him some sort of immunity?
I don't know about immunity,
but Trump could certainly use that argument.
I defer to you, Ron.
Trump could argue,
Jenna Ellis admitted she lied and she misled me.
Jenna Ellis is my friend.
Yeah.
And Donald Trump is my firm's client.
So let's talk about people getting shot in the woods of Maine.
My answer is...
What's that?
That's all I really wanted to ask because it seems like
in a way they're kind of giving a Trump
a defense.
Listen, what's going on...
They were lying and they were trump's counsel
all right jenna wasn't lying that i can tell you she wasn't lying uh she lying now is she lying now
i don't know what she's doing now but i can tell you that she's either lying then or now
this is like cross-examination but you have to ask the witness that's not the person who's
talking about it i don't know whether well if the court's going to take it as she did give this is like cross-examination but you have to ask the witness that's not the person who's talking
about it i don't know whether well if the court's going to take it as she did give false statements
because she pled guilty to that that gives trump a legal outing saying i was just following my
legal counsel i didn't know they were false all i wanted to say is that uh the trump prosecutions are so remotely related to any semblance of law and logic.
Yeah, I know.
That you may as well tell me that he can't be convicted because he was wearing sandals.
I mean, it's just one non sequitur after another.
You're right.
Getting our arms around all this.
And here's the thing.
I would.
All right.
I'm a little bit too close to the matter to say anything else.
Fair response.
My statement would be anybody who is involved right now,
right now,
if you're in politics,
take a good hard look in the mirror and decide right now, if you're in politics, take a good hard look in the mirror and decide right now if you would rather go bowling, play golf or have a beer with the boys, because this is not for you.
If you are the kind of person who will cry on the stand and let's just say backtrack on your previously held political convictions. If you are not, if you're not prepared for this, then now's the time.
You know what really, really pisses me off?
It is not when someone refuses to fight.
It is not when someone refuses to work.
What bothers me the most is when someone says, what do you need done, Tim?
And I'm like, look, we need someone who's going to be able to lift this heavy box.
I got to, I got to go to a meeting in an hour.
When I get back, I need that box lifted. Can you do it for me? You
got it. An hour later, I come back. The box isn't lifting to go. I didn't feel like doing it. If you
told me you weren't going to do it, I would have found someone else. But you fucked me over.
If you're going to be in politics and it's going to come down to the wire and you are going to
knife everyone in the back, just leave now. Leave now. We can stay friends. I'll say this wasn't
made for you. You couldn't stand the heat. So you left. Leave now. We can stay friends. I'll say this wasn't made for you.
You couldn't stand the heat, so you left.
I respect that. It's the people who stick
around and then cry and beg
and sell out their friends
to a corrupt establishment
state. That really pissed me off.
But anyway, thanks for calling.
I couldn't agree with you more.
I'm glad to hear that, man.
The beanie is overheating again.
It is.
The beanie is overheating.
That's funny.
If I can, I'd like to give a shout out to the birth of my second daughter.
Oh, wow.
Congratulations.
That's amazing.
I put a stop on my project I was working on for the children's show because my wife was in labor.
That's a good reason, too.
Good move.
Give a shout out.
Good move. I mean, I assume she was conscious. my wife was you know in labor and yeah it's a good reason to give a shout out good move
yeah i mean i assume she was conscious
all right thanks that's all i wanted to hear thanks guys all right thank you
well we're still waiting for developments the man has not been arrested we'll uh jump to the
next caller uh hiddleston i can't read your name. It's too long. It's how Discord works, but you're with us. How are you?
Hello.
Can you hear me all right?
Thanks for taking my call.
I have a question to Tim. In regards to electronic warfare,
this technology, which has
existed since the 80s, which uses
microwave induction lasers to cause
various mental issues on target.
These things are like Havana Syndrome
and the Frey Effect, which is a knocking noise in the ears. Potentially, it could be detailed communication
and a general lack of focus. Do you believe that this method of warfare will inevitably lead to
various countries such as the United States or Israel or even the UK or Germany who have this
technology developing a mass formation psychosis in a population.
Yeah, Tim.
I don't know about how you form a mass formation psychosis disrupting the brain.
If you want a mass formation psychosis, you need a coherent narrative of manipulation to bond people to.
Scrambling someone's brain is going to make them all just fight each other. And in this capacity, what we see with like Havana syndrome,
all it's doing is making people struggle to look at,
look out,
keep their eyes open when they're outside
and it gives them migraines and things like that.
I don't think that's going to,
controlling thought is much more complicated.
Controlling thought is going to come through
mass media, Twitter, Facebook,
and we see them doing it.
We know they're doing it.
The Twitter files got released.
We know they're doing it. That's the method of control.
Not, you know, but, but I do believe if there ever comes a point where someone becomes too
prominent and too powerful, the smartest and best thing they can do is scramble their brain.
So there was a, ask a follow-up question. Yes. Like in Vonnegut, um, on that train of thought,
do you believe that this could be
such a creative form of character assassination
where if somebody does become too powerful
or does become too influential
in any political sphere that they don't like,
like Donald Trump, for example,
they could just scramble him on stage?
There was a story on Facebook
where a woman started posting
a bunch of incoherent nonsense.
And it got found and went viral
and everyone's like,
what is this
weird profile like these paragraphs are seemingly all like there's just insane amounts of writing
their nonsense and then the conspiracy theorist it were some people found out that she had
previously worked for the cia and occam's razor she worked for the cia she got old she developed
schizophrenia it happens to old people people as, as they get aged, these things could happen.
Or she became deranged, delusional, whatever.
But the conspiracy theory was that as she was being burned and removed for whatever reason she compromised the agency,
they scrambled her brain to make sure she couldn't talk.
Oh, terrible.
So when she's spamming all these posts, in her mind, she's coherently writing,
this is what they've done.
This is what they're doing.
And all that's coming out is muttered gibberish.
Like some kind of weird aphasia type of thing?
Hypoxia.
Okay.
So when, this is crazy.
Hypoxia, lack of oxygen in the brain.
We had, when that smoke came here from Canada, damn canyons.
We have these oxygen canisters for athletics that you're supposed to like you
inhale and it doesn't really do anything because if you're athletic you don't need it because you're
at max oxygen saturation as it is and so we were joking about how bad the air was and i would my
throat was burned and i was coughing and then i was like look we got oxygen though and then as
soon as i inhaled the first bit it was like the room lit up yeah it's amazing i did not even know i didn't even know that i was
to a degree hypoxic i'm assuming i was because uh when when you're hype so they did this there's a
really great study they do test they did they put a guy in a hyperbaric chamber they reduce the
oxygen they have him do a math test simple arithmetic and over the course of doing the
test they reduce the oxygen and then raise it back up. And then they come in and take it from him. And they ask him how do they think that
he did? And he's like, I aced it. It's easy. Two plus two is four, right? And they're like, right.
And they show it to him. And as the oxygen goes down, he goes from writing the correct answers
to the wrong answers to mash to scribbles on the page that don't, that aren't even numbers.
And then it comes back and he's like, I did not even know.
I thought I was writing
the correct answer.
They're like,
when your brain isn't working,
you can't function.
That's why I was always
so bad at math.
That makes perfect sense.
Yes.
If there is like a Trump
or something,
there is an absolute incentive.
If they really want
to stop Trump,
scramble his brain.
Elon Musk.
Right.
But yeah, it's going to get crazy out there.
How does that answer your question, my friend?
Very gloomy.
This is the grim, dark reality that we're facing.
Yeah, man. Likewise.
It's a grim outlook, that's for sure.
You have to keep hopeful.
Otherwise, you can't change anything of it.
This is why I advocate for a very
heavy investment in Warhammer
because it helps you cope with the great
terrors of the
horrors beyond your comprehension
true
thanks for calling in
anyway thank you
bye
alright Kai how are you nice short screen name i appreciate it
yeah there you go hear me yep there you go all right my question is about i think uh
that's right answered by uh brock brock brockman jay but how many people do you believe are going to resist the draft if it was
implemented for the possible World War III?
How many people are they going to draft?
How many people would resist it?
Oh, dude, like...
There's a combination of
tons of Gen Zers who will cry and panic,
but I'm also willing to believe
a good majority of them will instantly
acquiesce and just cry
the whole time.
And then just get killed.
No, but the draft isn't combat. I mean, this is the thing.
People, I just, everyone
assumes draft means they give you a gun and push
you on the front line. No, you'll be in a
kitchen. You'll be mopping floors. There's this dude
who's like, I'm not going to be drafted.
I'm gay. Like, why would they draft me? And I'm
like, bro, because you can mop the floors, man.
Because you can clean the latrine for the
men who do the fighting. Come on, shut up.
Someone's got to do it.
It's an important job. I mean
no disrespect to anybody who joins the army and
says, I'm going to make sure we have functioning
infrastructure so our men
can do the job that must be done.
But to think that this guy is like,
oh, they're going to draft me. I can't fight.
Nah, you're good.
You can clean the toilets.
Yeah.
Someone's got to do it.
You can cook the food.
Clerical work.
Look.
Yeah.
Being a cook.
Awesome.
If you can make good meals,
Hey,
soldiers march on their bellies.
Let's go.
Hard.
Good meals.
Fast.
Make a ton of them really fast.
Not easy.
Do you think like a falling level of patriotism in the country also plays a role in that?
Just the, as the generations have gone on there's just far less actual love for
the country you live in yeah there's a lot less like back in the day war was so much different
when people looked at as if you were going to protect the cut you know for your country where
nowadays because of the internet because of the way that the structure of the country has changed
fundamentally you just don't have that same kind of almost naivete i just i think what we should do is every every kid at 18
should get a paid one month trip to
let's go morocco let's go morocco let's go marrakesh how come because the weak ones will
get a rude awakening as to what the world is like the shithole country tour well marrakesh
not that bad but it's bad enough that's why i'm like thinking about it like marrakesh is actually
the room spring up from hell earthquake was it marrakesh is great it's a good place but let me
tell you if you're staying in an american hotel i'm sure it's fine when i was when i went to uh marrakech i flew to casablanca and then when i landed and got out of
the got out of off the plane into the into the terminal i was like okay i gotta make a collecting
a connecting flight to marrakech now and i'm walking through the airport and get to a point
where i'm convinced i went the wrong way why the walls were broken the stairs were shattered and
there's no electricity and i thought i must have wandered into like a construction portion of the
airport i better turn around i turn around and i'm looking around and when i see a european
looking businessman walk past me and i'm like is this the way and he's like connecting in and i was
like okay and like here we go as an american guy probably must be going to the same conference as
me follow him we walk through a portion of the airport which looks like it's abandoned and Okay, and like, here we go, the American guy probably must be going to the same conference as me. Follow him.
We walk through a portion of the airport, which looks like it's abandoned and destroyed.
And then eventually, after about 10 minutes of walking, we start seeing lights.
It starts getting nicer.
And now we're in the domestic part of the airport.
Now I was like, what the fuck was that?
When I was leaving Marrakesh to the airport at three in the morning, I have a local cab.
It is a box to a little tin box car from like the 70s or whatever.
And we're driving down the streets in Marrakesh and the light turns red and he hits the gas and just zips past it.
And I'm like, and he looks back and says, if I stop, they rob us.
And I was like, get it, boy.
I was like, I'm down, I get it.
And people were like, oh yeah,
you stop at a red light, they'll run out with guns.
So you just zip past them.
I remember in the 80s, someone writing,
I think it was in the old National Review,
the Buckley National Review, saying it would be a really good idea for the UN
to leave New York
and go to one of these
shithole countries, as we call them now.
And let's just see how those third world delegates
feel about
having the nature of their civilizations or quasi-civilizations.
The diplomatic license plates.
Yeah. That's interesting.
I like the idea that when you finish high school, you get a year of service. You get a service year.
Well, your libertarian listeners are not going to like that very much. I know they don't.
I just think we got to- But we get so many kids who have absolutely no direction. I mean,
it would have to be well-organ organized. And so that's a concern.
If they grow up in a household, right, where the parents are trashing, you know, institutions and tradition and authority and heritage.
Then it won't help them anyway.
It won't help them.
In fact, it'll make them more resentful, maybe more dangerous, too.
And the biggest problem we have is that parents are handing their children off to be raised by the state and other children.
The most important thing no one talks about is that for generations, we have asked our children to be raised by other children.
It used to be 150 years ago, you would wake up 200 years ago.
You would go to where you're 10 years old.
You were working with your dad.
You were working with your mom.
You were helping on the farm.
You were learning from adults.
And so the values of those adults were transponded onto those children.
Now, the kids are left at school, surrounded by a bunch of other moron kids who don't know what the fuck they're talking about.
And they say dumb ass shit all the time.
And that's how they develop.
And who are the crop of teachers?
But the teachers don't matter
because students don't respect them.
Whatever they are,
they certainly aren't helping.
When I was in school,
the teachers were an other to be ignored
and insulted and derided and mocked.
Everyone hated their teachers.
No one liked the teachers,
and they were the cool kids everyone wanted to their teachers. No one liked the teachers.
And they were the cool kids everyone wanted to be like.
It wasn't necessarily like that
where I went to school.
My school was more like Fast Times.
They were like,
it's funny because you always see
these tropes of like
the cool jockey kids.
And it's like, honestly,
the jockey kids were popular,
but still kind of considered dorky.
Then there were like
the more like urban kids
who were actually kind of cool,
but not.
Where was this?
South side of Chicago.
So all these kids are learning from each other and trying to imitate each other.
And they're dumb as shit.
And so what happens when they grow up?
The values they have are based on child's values.
An amalgam of nonsense that was just spattered into a classroom.
I was ambivalent towards my teachers i had no such animosity towards my teachers i but even that yeah like when when kids are supposed to be looking up to adults and imitating them and being like i want
to be like i want to be like them when i grow up i want to be like this instead they're like i hate
school i hate teachers i was so focused on skating at that time that i have very little
recollection of almost any of it you know what kids should be doing they should be when they
get on their skateboard insert figurative activity they should go dad dad look at me look at me and
they should try and do a kickflip and then you're like that was pretty good let me show let me show
you a kickflip and then you do the really good one and then the kid's like oh and the kid tries
it again instead the kids are looking to another kid going look at me and they're throwing a paper ball at the teacher's head yeah there's just
nothing anyway they're gonna draft them all and uh you know i i i have no sympathy for it's gonna
be but there's gonna be resistance i'm sure because i'm sure like trump supporters from
right-wing people are not gonna send their kids off to die in the war absolutely get 10 just so that joe biden can get
a 10 for the big guy no no uh yes but liberals are going to be like oh no they're not going to
want to do it either no but what are they going to do about it well are they going to send their
kids yep you think so you think liberals are going to send their kids to go fight in a war yes i do really leftists maybe not but liberals yes like your basic mainstream your middle of the road
regular americans gonna be like well you know they comply yep i always will but i don't that's
why but i don't think it'll be a draft tara strong the perfect example bent the knee to the far left
and is now shocked that they want to burn israel
to the ground and she's getting and she's getting fired because of it they will vote all this stuff
in and they will comply with it out of fear and it's going to be the young and the powerless who
are drafted so the older liberals are going to be like well we we have to do it draft because it
protects them it's like i this is what I love about America.
When COVID happened,
the old people in Congress and the people running the States were like,
quick,
sacrifice the children so we can live for five more years.
In Japan,
elderly Japanese volunteered to go into the Fukushima Daiichi reactor and die
to save the children.
And when interviewed,
they said,
I've lived my life.
It's their turn now
and they sacrifice yeah meanwhile we got nancy pelosi making like millions of dollars in their
stock trades maybe it's because i'm part japanese a little bit and have that asian in me and they're
much more honorific that we all know where that Japanese and you came from tim so we do
it's fucked up, isn't it?
I believe they asked my question, but before I go,
how do I gain contact with
Ian Crossland? Just out of curiosity.
Twitter.
Send Luke a message.
No, because
it's about the few times I've been on.
I've been talking about making a D&D
Civil War.
Oh, that's right.
We should totally do a two-hour video where we I've been talking about making a D&D Civil War. Oh, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember that from last time.
Oh, we should totally do a two-hour video where we do this.
Well, I only have two pages now, but I'll email you guys, and you guys can give it to Ian.
Yeah, man.
Send me something on my Twitter, at Servers.com.
Just message me my DMs.
It's open, so I'll see your message.
For the same name here, obviously should we should we should legit do this like a two hour or maybe even four hour
special members only thing which will be like multiple camera angles live shot dnd style but
we need to outline like what are the classes right so we're not gonna have bards okay
can i explain what i have but you do rock stars
you know what i mean go uh see it again go ahead can't explain it can't explain what i have so far
so yeah for characters or roles will be like uh accountants fast food workers mechanics doctors
veterans i'm still putting it together but i also also have locations like Texas, Pacific Northwest, Southeast, Northeast.
So I'm still putting everything together right now.
Cool.
Well, Ian is more easily contacted on X, or you can hit up search.
Yep, we'll hit me up.
I'll make sure I talk to him.
Thank you.
Thanks for calling in.
Cheers, mate.
Well, I suppose for the time being being we don't have any uh updates
yeah there's no updates so far no but um yeah i've been seeing some stuff but i haven't been
able to verify anything that's the hard part is verifying well i'm just i'm gonna i'm gonna
oh okay they here we go full details have been released we got a photo let me uh pull this up
uh real quick ollie london has the information wasn't, I wasn't able to find that on the main website.
And when I went to.
What he posted?
Yeah.
Did he post the same?
Did he post the main information and analysis center?
Yeah.
Is that not real?
I can't tell because when I went to that website, what I found was information about how there
was a database breach in the Maine Information Analysis
Center. The last thing that I see on their site was from April. Okay. Well, I'm not going to...
So I'm just not sure about that. I've been trying to verify that for a little bit here,
and I haven't been able to. So I'll hold off. They argue that he may be mentally unstable or
something, but I guess we'll hold off on that. I guess we'll just wind it down there. I hope
everyone's paying attention and stays tuned to what's going on. Stay safe if you're
up in Maine. Ron, thanks for hanging out.
It's been a blast. It has really been
a nice time. Always is.
Right on. And for everybody else
and everybody who's a member, thank you so much
for hanging out
and we will see you all tomorrow. Thank you.