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Episode Date: December 11, 2022

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Every week, we produce four uncensored episodes of the TimCast IRL podcast, exclusively at TimCast.com and we're going to bring you the most important for our weekend show. If you want to check out more segments just like this, become a member at TimCast.com. Now, enjoy the show. Ladies and gentlemen, before we get started, I want to make an announcement. You know, I was talking about how conservatives put too much stock in Time's Person of the Year. So I am announcing the first annual Timcast Person of the Year. And the winner of this year is Mr. Bocas.

We have Mr. Bocas here, of course, on Twitter. Can we pull him up here? Yes, sir. And there he is. Good job, Bocas. That is Mr. Bocas. His name is Bocas, but we call him Mr. Bocas here, of course, on Twitter. Can we pull him up here? Yes, sir. And there he is. Good job, Bocas. That is Mr. Bocas. His name is Bocas, but we call him Mr. Bocas. He's a cat. He has AIDS and toxoplasmosis.

He doesn't have AIDS. That's not true. Cat AIDS. But what he does is, because he's a nice guy, right? He's a nice guy. He's a jerk. Now, I call him a little shithead because he pisses on the floor. But, you know, I catch him pissing on the floor, and I either spritz him, or I carry him to the litter box and then put him in the litter box.

Here's what happens. Little homeboy understands he did wrong, okay? He feels bad about it. But he doesn't understand what the fuck he did wrong. He just knows that when he pisses out there we get mad and freak out so now what he does is he walks to his litter box sticks his head inside and then pisses outside that's progress and i can't be mad at him because he's trying he's just too stupid are you guys ever watched my cat from hell have you ever seen that show jackson galaxy he's like a rock star musician and he goes around and helps people that have

problems with their cats i would love to have him on the show and have him come out here and do an episode on bucko and see if we can get him to stop peeing in the house well bucko if you look at so we there's a mat there's a litter box and it's on the mat and the mat has piss on it because he knows to pee in the litter box but he doesn't understand what it means to be in the litter box. I think it's because it's covered. He shits, but when he's only pissing, he walks in halfway with his ass hanging out

and then he pisses on the mat. And it shoots horizontally out. And eventually we'll start to... Mr. Bocas is TimCast's first annual person of the year. But let's talk about the actual story I want to get into it's uh you know him you love him Dylan Mulvaney who's threatening you now threatening you this is one of the most psychotic fucking things I have ever seen I despise this person um it has nothing to do with being trans. It has to do with the narcissistic personality disorder. Cassandra McDonald says, Dylan Mulvaney almost had me feel bad.

Then by the end, I was like, is this a threat? Saying, I'm also very nervous for you because we're coming for you, wrong thinks. Let me play a little bit of this. You know, attempting to enjoy womanhood is incomprehensible to you. Whether it's that I carry tampons, that I'm too feminine, or I call myself a girl, or that I'll never birth a child. Well, here's some more good news for you. I'm not enjoying my womanhood as much as I was. And my pain might be different than your pain, but it's very real.

So if that was your goal, then congrats. But I'm still a woman and I'm tired. Nope. And we don't have to be BFFs and you don't have to follow me. Just please don't call the police on me if we bump into each other in the bathroom. You know, my only agenda is to try to find the will to wake up every day and find some ounce of happiness. And believe it or not, somehow, I love ya.

And P.S., I am also very nervous for you just because hopefully soon transphobia won't be as tolerated online, but your tweets are forever and I don't want those to come back and haunt you. Okay? Oh, okay. My response

to this was, go fuck yourself, asshole. First of all, i don't care about you what you do whatever the fuck but uh i'm nervous for you because one day we won't tolerate what you're saying oh shut the fuck up you whiny fucking piece of shit i don't think this is the mask coming off because tim you said this is a big character that Dylan's playing, right? And maybe this is the excuse to go back to Dylan the boy. Maybe. Maybe. Look, there are a lot of people.

I don't care how they live. Blair White's absolutely awesome. Sorry for constantly saying your name, Blair. I really don't give a shit about how someone wants to live, how they want to dress, who they want to be with at home. None of it matters. But Dylan Mulvaney is the perfect example of an intrusive force who spits in your face and threatens you about what you can or can't say. Fuck that. Did Dylan get the cops called on him?

I don't know. He's using a guy's name, Dylan. He says he's a trans woman. But did he get the cops called on him in a restroom? Is that what he's saying? He went to a restroom and some woman called the cops on him because he's not a girl. he's a trans woman but did he get the cops called on him in a restroom is that what he's saying he went to a restroom and some woman called the cops on him because he's not a girl he's a narcissistic personality disorder there is a space it is designated for biological females i deserve to be in it and don't you fucking call the cops on me because i'm nervous for you

about what might actually happen to you if you keep saying those things um who was it was on the show saying this is how communism i think it it was Jesse Kelly, was on last week. It was like this is how communism finds its way into societies is through vulnerabilities of disenfranchised people or people that feel like they're less of them. So they went for the black community because it was like, oh, you're suffering. You're a victim. Therefore, society will fix it for you. Now give over your power to the government and we will fix it. And Dylan got invited to the White House.

And now he's going full like, you better watch what you say because I would hate for something bad to happen to you. Essentially, that's exactly what he's saying. Listen, I don't care for threats. Those are wrong. Don't do it. I don't care for being overly mean to people.

You know, you don't need to do it, but you're allowed to do it. What are we seeing from this video? Not that long ago. Dylan Mulvaney had a video. About all the tampons for her Barbie pouch. And it was effectively. It's like.

It's a caricature of women. Women don't act this way. It's spitting in their face. Here's my hiking heels. Just mocking women relentlessly. And then being like. You shouldn't say anything mean to to me about how i'm shitting in the faces of women and trans people no fuck that blair white isn't marching around in the forest going i've got hiking heels no no woman is mountain climbing in heels or harking through the forest. It's fake. It's derision. It's mockery.

But here's what happens. Dylan Mulvaney gets flack from everyone. Left, right, up, down, whatever. Trans people. And now Dylan's saying, I'm not enjoying this. I'm not enjoying it like I once was. And Dylan says in this video,

I'm only carrying tampons to give to other people. Initially, Dylan was talking about her barbie pouch but people started saying stop doing this and now dylan's saying okay okay i'm not i'm not doing that he's inspired other men to do like unboxings of tampons and stuff like that be like in their cars making tiktoks like oh let's read the back and see oh okay the tampons pads stuff. Like he's fooling a lot of impressionable young people. So he's doing a lot of damage. So let me play this video for you guys. It's infuriating, but you need to hear it.

I don't want to be a girl or I'll say woman for this one because this video is for the women on Twitter who just really don't like me. Hello, ladies. We got a lot to cover, but let's first talk tampons. I haven't talked about tampons on here lately because I don't use them. I'm a woman who doesn't have a uterus. I know this. And science was my strongest subject in high school. I was also shockingly good at math, but I digress. I just sometimes carry one in case anybody needs it. And that seems to have just set the world on fire in some pretty nasty ways. And this is a conversation that's been going on

for months. I just haven't chimed in because I'm so tired of sticking up for myself over something that was so pure intentioned. But now Twitter is just ablaze. And this week, there's some women that are now coming for Tampax, and I want it to clear the air. So I have some amazing news. Are you ready? I have never worked with Tampax before. Discover the magic of Bad M. Jam Casino, where the excitement is always on deck. Pull up a seat and check out a wide variety of table games with a live dealer. From roulette to blackjack, watch as a dealer hosts your table game and live chat with them throughout your experience to feel like you're actually at the casino.

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and this one's really going to blow your mind. Yo, homie, you walking around handing out tampons to people it's weird is that weird it'd be grooming if i'm not a lady but look at that look at that mug well tampax did an advertisement dollar off of feminine hygiene products so i hope that helps you sleep better knowing that and no need to bring tampax into this. But the bigger problem at hand is that you feel me carrying a tampon around is a threat to you and your womanhood. How is someone doing something nice so repulsive to you? Because listen to this, if a man, whether he was your boyfriend or your husband,

could even be your gay best friend, kept a tampon for you at his house just in case you needed it you'd gush over him you would run to brunch on sunday and tell all your gal pals that he's so thoughtful and he cares and he listens and then a trans woman does it and all of a sudden i'm the reason that there's a tampon shortage you know it's it's not because i'm misogynistic it's because you're transphobic oh you know we gotta work through this and and babe caring for others it's not because I'm misogynistic. It's because you're transphobic. You know, we got to work through this. And babe, caring for others, it's the bare minimum. You know, you might not like me, but I care about you. Okay, well, let's see what Matt Walsh has to say.

He says, I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume that nearly every woman on the planet would be extremely creeped out by a man who carries spare tampons around. They would not be gushing over him to their gal pals sydney watson says yeah this is weird i kind of felt that way that it'd be very fucking weird as a dude to put a tampon in my pocket walk around be like ma'am need a tampon she'd be like the fuck get away from me you fucking creepo but uh that would be like women just randomly going up

to men and giving them condoms. Would that be acceptable? No, that's more suggestive. Yeah, no. Imagine if you walk up to a guy and go, hey, buddy, I think you need this. And you pull out a big wad of toilet paper and hand it to him. Everyone's shits, man.

That's weird. And you hand him some toilet paper. Look, I don't know. Periods are a specific thing. This one Twitter user said, I don't need anyone to think about me having my period except for me. I don't even. Periods are a specific thing. This one Twitter user said, I don't need anyone to think about me having my period except for me. I don't even want to think about it. It's an annoyance that I put as little time into thinking about it as possible like Dylan.

Maybe your boyfriend, maybe your husband, not some rando on the internet or some random person you meet and have a conversation with at a restaurant. I think this conversation was started because Tampax posted something on Twitter saying any person, including male or female, could have their periods. That's why you should buy Tampax. When was that? A couple days ago.

If you go on their Twitter page, I think you'll see it. And it spurred on a lot of conversations with a lot of people saying, hey, guys, if you're bleeding from your dick, tampon's not going to help you guys. Just a heads up here. But there's many of them your dick uh tampon's not going to help you guys just a heads up here but uh there's one there's many of them yeah not all women have periods this is from september 2020 not all women have periods also a fact not all people with periods are women let's celebrate the diversity of all people who bleed uh so like if i get a gunshot wound do i stick a tampon in it well if you're in the Russian military, that's what some commanders are telling their soldiers

to do. What if you get a nosebleed? It might work. I've seen that in movies. She's the man. Beavis and Butthead did it. Tampons and nosebleeds. South Park did it where they shoved it up their asses. Oh, yes. Yes, yes. Is that what's happening here? I feel

like compassion for Dylanylan because i can tell don't first of all dylan some advice don't demeaningly call people babe that you don't know oh they do i'm sorry they deleted the tweet from from a from a week or two weeks ago like i can see the fake smiling in dylan's face like that's fake i can tell you're not happy when you're you're talking you don't need to smile. You'll actually feel better if you stop forcing a fake smile. It was this one. This is the one they deleted. You're in their DMs.

We're in them. We're not the same. Oh, no. Oh, my God. What the fuck? Hey, that's marketing. What? What does that mean?

See, so I had this conversation with people around Timcast. Oh, my God. Some of the female employees thought this was like them was a they them thing. Like they were truly offended by this. And I thought it was a joke. Like they mean them by like your girlfriend, like your women. Like it was just a dig at men or something like a playful joke. But they're in hot water, you know? I think that's the new wave of marketing.

And a lot of corporations now are like fuck it we're just going to create some bullshit just so people talk about us so they buy our shit this is actually really funny i don't know i don't know i don't know what the fuck this is someone said they were trying to buy tampons but walmart offered up mushrooms instead do you get like heated about the trans movement or trans people in general or anything do you stay i get heated over the sexualization of our children absolutely well and it should be limited to adulthood there's no reason why children should be receiving puberty blockers or making those decisions and we were talking about assisted suicide you are not mentally capable of making those life determining decisions at those ages. So that's where it gets

me. And it has nothing to do with sexuality, gender identity, whether you're are transgender, it has to do with the sexualization of children is wrong, period. I don't want heterosexual people telling my children about sex. I don't want anybody doing that unless it's my choice. So that's how I feel in the discussion. And I think where conservatives get it wrong is when they conflate the issue by tying it to members of the LGBT community. And that's what Democrats are really trying to do. They're trying to make it seem that it's an attack on the gay community when no it's an attack on the hyper sexualization of children you know i i excuse me i'm i'm a guy so i i don't know you know i'm not knowing a whole lot about these here tampons but this video that

was sent to tampax is this how tampons work i i was not familiar that... What the... Yep. What? Hell yeah. The weaponization of tampons. It turns into a rocket ship and goes after... It's a drone. It turned out it was a drone the whole time.

I saw that story of the lady who had her screen door open in California and a mountain lion came in and grabbed her dog and dragged it out. If she had one of these things... The dog played dead and the dog survived. Crazy. And then someone shot at it and ran away. And then the wildlife people were like, well, we're not going to do

anything because it left. Then the next day it came and killed her goats. So they tracked it down and killed it. That's kind of fucked up because there's video footage of the mountain lion with its babies. So it was clearly trying to feed its babies babies and we were like well you ain't eating us killed it yeah what about its babies man what about it kill them too i guess or they're gonna grow up and eat your chickens they'll get revenge they're gonna grow up and be like my mother was killed wasn't that the plot of lion king yeah they're writing songs about it right now is that it

you know i'm like i'm looking atampax's Twitter because we were talking about it, and the whole thing is just really fucked up. Like, everything they tweet about is weird jokes about, you know, periods. Well, if you remember, Disney even had a little scene in one of their movies with the fat blimp character looking for tampons and needing help finding the right tampons for themselves because they were. Yeah, there's like a robot movie. What was that?

I forgot the name of it, but there was a scene of it that was pretty disturbing. I don't know what y'all are watching. No, this was all over the Twitter space. Everyone was sharing the video of this Disney clip of a male or a non-binary character that was looking for tampons and needing help finding tampons here it is you got it the show was called bay baymax oh big hero six oh yeah yeah yes yes yes oh the one about the the trans person buying the tampons yeah yeah it was a cartoon oh yeah yeah yeah what was it big baymax baymax was the name of the character, the robot. I see.

Baymax goes shopping for tampons. Here it is. Is there sound? Oh, no, there's not. What the fuck were they thinking? Excuse me. Which of these products would you recommend? Oh, um

Well These are the tampons. I usually use thank you. I prefer pads. They're more comfortable for me. Thank you I always get the ones with wings. Thank you get unscented and bleach free if you can. Thank you. Yo, my daughter loves these Thank you. Okay, what the fuck easier if, that was super fucked up, but I just want to point out one thing. The trans person, who is a... Hold on.

It's like clearly meant to be a trans man. Yeah, with a pink striped shirt. That guy. Yeah. And a male voice. Hold on. yeah i always get the ones with wings thank you hold on why do you get the ones with wings once you go on hormone replacement therapy you don't have your period anymore yep because they're trying to uh sell tampons to kids apparently and then the guy's like my daughter loves these your daughter goes to dead these are my favorite tampons it's just so fucking weird well these

are the times we live in i guess i don't fucking know all i know is the 90s were awesome and pizza hut and burger king and book it and uh you know i'm gonna make that hotel they were good day and age but we didn't have these degenerates out there but the problem with the 90s the music was better it spawned the music was pretty good it spawned 9-11 and everyone just agreed it was real that was the problem with 90s like ignorant bliss and then when the government's like and we can go back we can go back you know because then we can go back someone will guide us to kill an enemy and we'll be like okay we got to stay alert i don't think weird sick reality that we live in i don't think my theme hotel is going to make anybody kill anybody oh the fear is themselves you just don't want them to become numb to reality and hide in joy.

The fear is suicide, to be honest. We've talked about it before. You make a nostalgia-themed hotel, and some 50-year-old dude's going to be like, his wife left him, his kids hate him, and he's going to go back to this 90s room, and he's going to turn on the TV, and he's going to be watching like, an all-new Simpsons starting now! And he's going to go... tv and he's gonna be watching like an all-new simpson starting now and he's gonna go jesus god you're not wrong i know i think it's afterwards because he's seeing while he's there that is his reality but then as soon as he steps outside and goes

oh my gosh i'm back to the real reality i think that and you go i think they go there to kill themselves they're like they want to go to the time when their life was the best and feel it and then they cry knowing it's gone and then they eat some pills or something or you get the same guy renting a room over and over and over and over you're like wow this feels so sad for that guy that's what i'm saying we do it sweet yeah we do uh we do a complex we buy like a studio like a hollywood style studio with sets but then we make every or you know we buy a small town that's what we do a complex we buy like a studio like a Hollywood style studio with sets but then we make every or you know we buy a small town

we find a abandoned town we fix it up and we make everything the 90s so you're not just getting a room you can walk outside and you're like life is good again sorry sorry the Hillary Clinton suites I think would be more appropriate for the

name and you could have uh like pictures of her everywhere in her in the 90s and monica i don't know that's like a horror themed thing that's like a like a halloween thing i would you know that's that's what i was thinking bill was uh didn't you oversee the the end of the conflict in the middle east i think they were like oh yeah the jews and the palestinians are now allied they were like became friends in the 90s or something and i don't think that ever panned out yeah it didn't seem to the news told me it was fine i just go back to sleep i want you guys to imagine this all right here's a tweet from matthew j peterson he says the year is 2005 donald trump is the star of the apprentice kanye west just said publicly that george bush doesn't care about black people. Elon Musk has

raised dubious eyebrows by launching Tesla and SpaceX, neither of which has produced a product yet. Twitter does not exist. I remember that. You look at your former self watching The Island and are about to speak and then head back into your time machine. Ain't no one gonna believe you. Yep.

They won't. That was right around when I started making youtube videos i remember it was uh katrina really fucked me up we should we should really do this sketch the sketch though it'll be really funny like luke going back in time and it's like you gotta grow out a beard and just be like we'll give you like a leather jacket we'll scuff it up and you'll like you'll land and you'll go i only have 15 minutes to warn them all everyone listen donald trump after becoming president they're gonna be like okay this dude is completely insane the pandemic it's gonna kill everybody and then the vaccine comes we're like president of cbs you're like no no i

don't have time for this the president the president donald trump what you know they're going to the island to rape all the children there stop the island and it's like this guy's fucking loony bill gates bill gates is gonna do it like the computer guy but then we find out that ian becomes a writer for the simpsons and then everything that he predicts comes true that's the way to do it hold on i got it ian and luke go back in time and then they're trying to warn people but nobody believes them. And then the machine's like, warning,

returning to original time period in 10 seconds. And then Luke's like, we gotta go right at time. And Ian's like, no, we can't. The future. And then Luke runs

in the machine and he's like, Ian. And you're like, I can't. And then Luke's like, no. And then Ian's trapped.

And then you're like, there's only one way to do this. And then it shows you standing out in front of Fox Studios holding the thing saying Simpsons in an address. And you're like. That is right around when I started making YouTube videos. I had some sort of divine reckoning in 06, early 06, late 05. I wonder if Luke went back in time and reminded me. Maybe.

Thanks. I want to help Dylan. What do we do? I think what's happening is working because dylan was making these videos that were shockingly offensive to trans people and women and trans people and women started getting mad at dylan and that's the thing that the leftists these these psychotic cultists they were like cheering for dylan and inviting dylan to the white house because they're all mentally disturbed not realizing that even trans people are like you're making us look like fucking idiots so now the only reason dylan came out and said i obviously don't use tampons it's

because other leftists and trans people were saying fuck you yep i think line too far the mask comes off i think dylan starts becoming goes reversed to being like an actual boy or a guy whatever because he in that video he was saying i'm so sad like it's so hard to be a woman now you guys it's your fault and he'll just say it's your fault that's why i went back and then he's scot-free the reason dylan is likely doing this is performative it's for points it's for social acceptance. And it's not working. So I agree.

Dylan may actually be like, you know what? Womanhood wasn't right for me or whatever. Or here's the scariest scenario. Detransition is not, it doesn't, like there's damage. You know, there's permanent changes. The people who are doing this to their bodies, they can't go back. You know, like Chloe Cole had her breasts removed, detransitioned, but now flat, double mastectomy.

She'd be a good guest too. She's been doing the rounds. I think we've been talking. Yeah, cool. Trying to figure that one out. I'm not sure though. If Dylan were to say like, okay, you know what? I can't do this anymore.

I'm not a woman. I'm a man or something like that. I could see him drawing the ire of people that are in the trans community too. So maybe he'd be afraid to do that or but you know whatever well dylan already got the eye of the trans community with all the like the thing is about saying barbie pouch and other really shockingly offensive terms is that it pissed everyone off the snide derisive the arrogant the snooty that's what dylan's character was or is and people are just like you are a bad person yeah let me tell you babe like dude don't talk down to people not

right now you're not in a position of power dude the thing you see the thing where where uh dylan like did the fake breast push on the the podcast mr hollywood i'm right here like it's just meant to insult women i think dylan is just trying to mock women and trans people is dylan on hormones or is it just i think so but i think what what dylan does in these videos is a performance right whether it's whether being trans or not as real like blair said she knows people who know uh d Dylan's actually trans. And I'm like, OK, sure. But those videos are fake. Here's my hiking heels. Like that's not real.

No real person does that. And then Dylan did the thing where it's like, I guess a woman in Hollywood would like press her breasts together and be like, hey there. But Dylan doesn't have breasts. And so just like one like that, like on the side of his body. And it's just it's like spitting on people. You know, it used to be back in the day you'd be shamed and told like, hey, man, don't fuck. Don't fucking do that. That's rude.

This is like I look at this. I look at what Dylan's doing as the exact same thing as if a guy put on blackface and started yelling about fried chicken. Yeah. No joke. One hundred percent. I don't think this shaming is the issue though i mean the fact of the matter is dylan is getting a lot of attention period yeah and that's what dylan wants and i think this is just kind of a reinvention you know it's going

to get old after a while just being happy i think this victimization is just a new reinvention to get more attention but i think he you know after this he's going to do the next thing and then the next stunt and then the bigger thing and then the bigger thing always to get attention always to get people to talk about him because it's a drug when people get addicted i mean before this he was a white guy right in society he's like okay well you know going to college is going to be difficult getting Getting any kind of promotion, getting any kind of real job is going to be fucking difficult. Fuck it. I'm going to hack this shit.

I'm going to be a girl, right? I got all the advantages now in society. Oh shit. Everyone's paying attention to me. Oh shit. I'm relevant in people's lives. Oh shit. People are propping me up.

People are like, fuck it. I want more of that. And that's essentially what a lot of the influencers are going through this larger kind of drug of attention which is according to some scientists equivalent to heroin when it comes to addicting people and hooking people for this this hit of relevancy this hit of of life and experience that he was previously denied of because he was just a white guy and he got famous fast. Yeah, very fast. Super famous.

How many followers does he have? Millions probably, right? Maybe. Everyone's watching what essentially to a lot of people is a car wreck. Yeah, it's stressful just in general. I mean, you guys all know, you've all been through it to become famous, to get well known. I find it to be very disconcerting because you start to, I don't know,

you just believe what people tell you about yourself. You see yourself. You've got to witness yourself from outside it's jarring to be on top of that to have some sort of mental if if what he's going through is a disorder or something i think dsm-5 says that trans genderism is a mental disorder i believe according to dsm-5 that that compounds they compound it's hard enough just to do it just as a normal, confident person to be famous. I think fame is the – imagine yin-yang. Wealth and success is the white portion, and the black portion is fame. Like if you really want to curse someone, make them famous with no external resources. So you're poor, you're working class, but you're also very, very famous.

And that would be a curse that I would say if you really want to make someone's life miserable, that's what you wish for them. No, I don't think so. I don't know how to explain it, but if people know you for a good—the difference is infamous versus famous there's no such thing there's no there's no distinction um i think i think there is but continue explain no well i mean i i don't mean to put myself out there but look at someone like uh maya angelou or or dr martin Luther King, or, I mean, even Donald Trump or Elon Musk. Martin Luther King was killed. Well, I understand that, but Elon Musk can't do public events anymore.

None of these people can. You can't go out to restaurants. Like, you can't trust that the person won't just spit in your food to say they did. You can't trust that someone won't try and fuck with you for the sake of just fucking with you. They won chase you around they won't stalk you they won't hang outside waiting of your house they won't send you weird phone calls just because they want to be by you i have found that's true but piggybacking of what you're saying i found that if you become famous off of bullshit

your fans then think you're real and you know you're bullshit so you think that they're idiots because they believe you you're bullshit i found that so becoming famous for bad fake reasons can cause a lot of mental distress whereas if you're just being your true self and the result of that is fame you just keep being your true self people will make up lies about you and there's nothing you can do about it then people will try to physically attack you because of those lies there the story i love telling is the person went on Twitter and claimed that I showed up to their house in Boston at 2 a.m. And turned their TV on, waking up their family. And a bunch of people believed it. And they were like, what a fucking piece of shit.

And I'm like, but people are insane. When you're dealing with an online mob of people who are angry for the sake of being angry, they all just start telling lies and then someone else tells a lie because they want to be in the mob too. And then all of a sudden they're making up insane stories. Then the media gets involved and says, ooh, let's make up one of our own. People on the internet

are claiming that after Tim Pool said these things, he did this and they just all fake shit. So I think what happens with people like dylan mulvaney what they're now realizing is oh this is what you wanted you wanted everyone staring at you and screaming at you and it ain't fun i don't think dylan mulvaney is making a whole lot of money to be honest a lot of these influencers don't make as much money as famous people normally would have in the past because they're famous for being famous. There's not a whole lot you can offer beyond that

other than like, Tampax is giving me things. Please pay me Tampax. Well, Dylan says Tampax hasn't given them any money. So you've got people who become famous but don't get anything from it other than the suffering. So it's a curse.

I know, but people crave it because they don't know better. They think it must be so great to be beloved because they're looking at someone they've never met thinking, man, I want to be like them. It must be so great to be them. And then it's actually all fabricated. It's all fake. The whole view of this person's life is manufactured. Publicists, PR, staged events, and everyone wants to be like that.

This is what happens with social media in the early days. Even right now, young women getting depressed. They see the posts on some girls on a boat, and she's going like this. And they're like, I want to be on a boat so bad. I want to be like that. And what they don't realize is this person and her boyfriend jumped on someone else's boat, took a quick picture, and then got chased off by cops who were screaming, get off that fucking boat.

People are seeing a fake version of reality thinking it's real wanting it then when people start getting it they're like holy shit now everybody hates me and wants to kill me this is fucking stupid i like pure fame though i like people that are like honest and just doing something and then attention starts to gather around them they keep going and it's almost like it's not it is affecting them but it feels like it's not but like they're there for it that still results in no matter what you do you will have yin yang you will have haters and lovers like yeah you people will like you people will hate you and it's amplified to an extreme degree speaking from personal experience two guys just broke into my house and they got shot at why did did they do it? We think it was targeted. Another person showed up the next day and it was targeted.

So it's just like you'd be better off being extremely like this is why they say when you win the lottery you don't tell anyone and you hire a lawyer immediately

form a trust and have the lottery claimed in the name of a gibberish name trust gobble-a-blah-blow trust. Something that's really hard to say

that no one can track all the money goes in there and that no one can track all the money goes in there and then no one knows you have any money i'm like on the verge of i keep thinking like i gotta go make a song with yay man i gotta do something that like reinvents the world and it's like just uber fame like i'm like if i do that i will there's no turning back like you become known by everybody at that or whatever and but at that point i'm like i don't know it's just a sacrifice i gotta make i can't wait and sit by and watch shit fall apart like at least get up there if they kill me when i'm 45 they kill me like i don't know i can't you know take me if

you gotta take me god do it uh well it's it's what you're willing to accept you know i mean i see it more as opportunity you have the opportunity to influence to change that that's power it just depends on how you use it and even if your time is limited um i just see that as i don't know it but fame is different from like career notability like if you're the best engineer in the business, you'll have people who hate you, but you can walk into an engineering conference. If you're famous, a plumber, you're an astronaut and a groundskeeper knows who you are. They don't care about your career. They just know who you are. And this means the person who thinks you stole their spoons and hid them on the moon is coming to kill you. Career notability is like you have a following of people who are familiar with

the work you've done and you have an opportunity to speak at conferences fame is the guy down the street jim bob who is a welder knows who you are and hates your guts because he heard from his lefty friends on twitter that you stole someone's cat and now they want to kill you because of it so there's a difference uh i think i do i think it's an opportunity i'm not saying i don't think you're wrong i think you guys probably both speaking the truth about it but there is an opportunity in being famous where you can like say something and people believe it or or point people at something and they all look at it or a bunch of people look at it and like you can do a lot of good with that power i suppose i suppose what i'm saying is there's a balance to all of it with that influence

the positive the success comes the negative and the most positive element is if you were a billionaire and no one knew, you'd have all that influence. You could hire someone to say these things for. You could hire Brad Pitt to do it. Look at FTX. They get all these high-powered celebrities to do all the mouthpiece and forum. You can buy billboards everywhere, and no one will know who you are, and you'll have no one coming after you. But that wasn't ethical. Getting someone else to parrot my beliefs, I don't feel like that's ethical.

But ethics versus reach are two different things. If we're saying the benefits of being famous are that you have influence, sure. But being rich makes you influential as well in a different way. Now you can call it unethical. Sure, fine, I'm not saying it's not. I'm saying you are safer. You don't have the downside. Yeah, that's a lot of rich people don't want to be known you know power power wants power wants i don't know i've kind of been weary of it and um kind of careful i can't say it

hasn't been on my mind to really push things forward or to try to kind of be in the middle ground because like you know because I had conversations about this with you, Tim, a couple of years ago. I'm like, I don't know if I really want to be up there. There's a lot of risk. There's a lot of reward too, but it's based on a personal choice. So I've kind of been kind of honest,

half-stepping it a little bit because I know if I step things up, there's going to be larger trade-offs. You got a billboard in Times Square in four days. You put that up. I didn't want that. In three days, there will be a Luke

in Times Square along with Ian and me. So, congratulations, gentlemen. Would you guys, it doesn't have to be live shorter life,

more fame, longer life, less fame. It doesn't have to be. It's not binary. But if you, do you have like a preference for yourself?

Would you rather, because I think we could all be 90 year old men still doing this and still be super fit it's possible like it's truly as possible i think it needs to be slow i and i think that's that's been kind of my deliberate thinking because if you look at a lot of people who get attention really fast or a lot of money really fast or anything kind of uh in that realm really fast they kind of ruin it, they fuck it up and they do some fucked up shit. So I think slowly doing this is the key. The best point of my life was end of 2018 when I had about 150,000 subscribers on the Tim Pool channel and about 80,000 subscribers on Timcast News. And I was making probably around $200,000, $250,000 per

year just off YouTube alone. And then early 2019, when I was making like 300 to 400k, and I was like, holy shit. It's like, I got money. My videos were getting like 25,000 views per video. And I had my own house. And I had a big projector on the wall with 16 foot screen to watch movies, big open ceilings. I had a mini ramp in my backyard and I did not need anything else. And then I decided to go on the Joe Rogan show. And this is the point. My that that for me is the point. I don't care about the risk. I don't care about all these things. They're outright negatives. I care about fixing this shit, telling people what the fuck is going on. And I want things to be better. I want to call it the bullshit. I'm sick of the fucked up bullshit. I'm sick of the politicians. I'm sick of the Democrats.

I'm sick of Mitch McConnell and the established Republicans. I'm sick of the cops. And I want to do something about it. The coolest thing? Now I can buy billboards saying saying fuck you to these cops so what i would personally prefer is to not be doing any of this but i am like emotionally obligated as it were when rogan said come on the show i was like well i have to do it i i have to tell people what's going on. No, it's not because of me.

It's because I saw this thing and Joe got it wrong. Joe, you got to tell the people, man. And Joe had me on to tell the people. And then I started getting more followers. And then every day this company grows, not because I'm trying to make it grow. It grows because it's like, oh, you know, we're booking guests for Pop Culture Crisis. We need a new driver. Like we need someone who can do guest coordination for the new show. And I'm like, oh, you know, we're booking guests for Pop Culture Crisis. We need a new driver. Like, we need someone who can do guest coordination for the new show.

And I'm like, oh, okay, hire him. Then we hire that person. Now it's like, okay, now we're reaching this certain level. We have a whole bunch of employees. We need a bigger office. And I'm like, oh, okay, well, I guess we should just build a bigger office. Now we're building a bigger office. Then it's like, oh, yeah, we're going to start, you know.

Every day, there's something that grows inadvertently. And it's like oh yeah we're gonna start you know every day there's something that grows inadvertently and it's just growing that's works like what luke was saying about going slow it's better than getting like 200 million dollar investment and then hiring 700 people and having you know it's way better to do it from the from the bottom up i agree i'm not saying that it's faster so i'm saying it's not intentional it's not it's not growing on purpose like you know shane just did that yay article shane uh shane got invited to go hang out with yay scott adams was raving about how awesome the article is and now we're like oh okay cool and shane's like i'll do another one and i'm like here we go yeah here we go it's getting bigger i got a vision of us of like the

story you know sometimes you watch a show or beat a video game and at the end it's like, well Luke went on to found a colony of 10,000 individuals working for self-freedom and rights. Ten years later they killed each other in a bloody massacre. How dare you. You're a negative Nancy. Pessimistic thinking. It was like, and Tim?

Well, Tim's in a van down by the river doing what he always wanted to do. And it shows you hanging out with friends, with a grill and playing magic. As he goes, kills the local town village people in a bloodbath murder. Here's how I imagine the movie's gonna be. It's gonna be some dude hosting a show.

All hell's gonna break loose, and they're gonna be like, the only way to solve this is to find Tim Pool. And they're going to be like, but he's been gone for 20 years. And then I'm going to be like chopping wood by a river. And I'm going to be like,

I left that life behind. That was a long time ago. Huge beard, ripped. Have a dog. Yeah. And then it's like, you have to come back. We need you.

And I'll be like, no. And then I throw the ax with the tree maybe that's a funny vision what are you scott what's your plan 30 years from now i'm not sure i i just uh i i get my happiness and my fulfillment from serving others so i think think I'm always going to have a life of some sort of service. And I think it just comes down to your intent. You know, I never intended to have the platform that I have, but I feel an obligation now that I have it to do good, as much good as humanly possible. And so I think I'll live a life of service, philanthropy, whatever that looks like. But I understand that I need to have the means in order to accomplish that vision. And I don't know.

I think I'm open to whatever. I feel like whatever I do, I'll be successful at it. And so maybe I'll be a jack of all trades and maybe a master at none. Every so often better than a master of one. But a master. none, but... Every so often, better than a master of one. But a master, yes, exactly. So I don't know where I see my life in 30 years. Quite frankly, you know, I just was thinking to myself the other day, we live our lives always planning for the future,

always planning that there will be a future, and I think so often we lose the perspective of living in the now. And I think especially having been so close to death, I'm understanding we can't always plan to have a future. And I need to do more to accomplish what I want sooner rather than later. So I'm not sure there will be 30 years. You know, one of the things that makes me believe in God is that I 100% would rather quit all of this and go live in a van down by the river, go skate when I feel like skating, play guitar on the roof in a crisp autumn night, but I just can't do it. I can't. I'm not allowed. There's just like,

I would love to get in my van and go drive down to Arizona and go into the mountains in the cold night and just sit back with the movie on and just be like, fuck all this shit. I feel good. Exercise, play music,

trigger those endorphins, walk around in a random place looking at weird ass shit, but I can't it's like there is there is nothing in me that would ever allow me to do that yeah so i wake up every day and i get to work and it's the craziest thing i have no boss but i feel physical pain if i don't do this literally genetic degradation i think i think it is literal pain i i it is literal i don't know if you guys you guys have been in my nightmares you know you want to know what my nightmares are i in my

nightmares i wake up and it's 9 43 and i'm like oh shit i'm not gonna get my fucking show up i had this line and he envisions bocus with the head in the litter box he knows what's about to happen that's funny i I went in like 2010. I got afraid of being famous and I dipped out for about a decade of just doing this, of serving the community, the people. And it was literally like what you're saying. My body was starting to die. My genetics were shutting down.

It was like, you're not needed. You're not doing anything for people. You don't need to be here. You're defying God's plan. Yes. And I'm not anymore. And I feel way better now. I look better too when when i wouldn't i wouldn't say i feel better i would just say like if i were to wake up tomorrow get in my truck and be like i'm just gonna go fishing

it would just be it would be it would be pain it would be like ripping something out of my chest gotta work i would feel guilt that's yeah feel guilt. That's what it is. Because we know that we have the potential to affect real change. And so doing that and living that life of just singularity would be painful knowing that you're not optimizing your full potential.

Yep. All right, let's wrap it up there because we've gone a little long. Scott, it's been a blast. Thanks for hanging out, man. A pleasure. Absolutely. Pleasure. Good to be back.

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