Timcast IRL - Sunday Uncensored: Thomas Massie And Marjorie Taylor Greene Member Podcast: CDC Vaccine Data, Vaccine injuries, And Medical Corruption

Episode Date: February 13, 2022

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Welcome to our special weekend show, Sunday Uncensored. Every week we produce four uncensored episodes of the TimCast IRL podcast exclusively at TimCast.com and we're going to bring you the most important for our weekend show. If you want to check out more segments just like this, become a member at TimCast.com. Now enjoy the show. So we're doing the after show, but I decided to record early because before we get into the deep, dark secrets of the battles in Congress, I've got to know what's the Klux capacitor. Yes. All right.

So there's a way that hippies raise poultry on pasture and crunchy cons like myself who want to eat sustainable. Sustainable shouldn't be a dirty word, right? And crunchy cons like myself who want to eat sustainable. Sustainable shouldn't be a dirty word, right? So we raise chickens in a chicken tractor. It's like a cage that rolls on wheels and you move it every day. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So my problem is I go to Congress five days a week. And for a while the kids would move it, but now they've left the house.

So I had to solve this problem. Who's going to move the chicken tractor? So I put a solar panel on it and an automotive winch and a timer and a battery and it collects rain water and the chickens have water you don't have to carry water to it and it moves itself but here the first summer it ran i had a big problem the battery went dead and i'm like well now i gotta take this to the landfill this is not green this. This is not my green dream, right? I can see all the externalities right there. So I figured out a way to do it with capacitors. Capacitors.

These you can cycle a million times instead of a thousand times. The problem is they don't store a lot of energy. But guess what? Chickens don't like to move very far. So it moves one inch. It charges the capac move very far. So it moves one inch. It charges the capacitors for 10 minutes. It moves one inch. The cage does.

It's basically like a Roomba with chickens, if you're trying to imagine what this thing looks like. But the Roomba moves an inch every 10 minutes. Don't you want one? Yeah. And so then that's when I discovered it was a – Sir, I would like to invest in your invention. A Clux capacitor. Could you then make a house out of it, a small house?

You could. You could put rabbits. The dogs could live in it. People could live in it. Your house could move every day the length of the house. That's amazing. Really? The roaming house.

Well, that'd be pretty cool, actually. You put it on a wire to guide it? It's a winch, so it's a cable, so it just moves along a straight line. So it doesn't go in your it just moves along a straight line. So it doesn't go in your swimming pool while you're not home. It doesn't move around. So wait, wait. He has an app. He has an app on his phone.

Oh, it's connected to your phone by an app. Yeah. It holds enough water from rain that the chickens always have water? If you get a rain, they'll get enough water for two or three days. But if you go two or three days without water, then you would have to carry water to it without rain. Well, that is enlightening. We have Chicken City, of course.

The stream has gone up once. We're almost ready to go. We've got 10 chickens here. We've got five black stars in our other property. And we're incubating, I think, seven or eight eggs now downstairs. And you can see the little heartbeats. The little birds are growing. Nice.

That is neat. Yeah. We bought seven. I think we bought eight. And two of them died. And then they were supposed to be all girls. But they made a mistake. And one of them was a boy.

You assumed his gender. How could you do that? It was all so messed up. It was really messed up. And I told him. Come on now. So tired of this whole assuming gender thing. Let me tell you. I told.

Our rooster is Roberto, and he sired three children. We did a big batch. They didn't make it. Only three did. And there's two that are the daughters of Roberto, Rhode Island Red, and of our leghorn, I think. It's just a white, very small though, Margaret. And then we have an Easter egger named Katerina, and she had the boy who looks just like Roberto.

We named Roberto Jr. And now we have Roberto and his son, Roberto Jr., and they both will yell. They have different crows. I'm learning them very well. They're right outside my house. That's right. You know what I learned?

At first it was like, how am I going to live with these chickens? And then a commenter was like, well, I have a hard time sleeping with traffic because i grew up on a farm chickens don't bother me and i was like oh i grew up with traffic so chickens are just like traffic and as soon as i thought about it i sleep through it now okay by the way the clucks capacitor plays the chicken dance that's pretty before it moves it plays the chicken dance every time. So they know. So they learn. Oh. Because they could get crushed. But there was a problem. I had a

wild bird that learned the chicken dance and was calling back to the chicken tractor on my farm. Wow. Okay, now we've gone. Telling other birds that there was going to be food or something? I think it wanted to mate with it. We've gone several minutes. I'm sure there are many people who saw the title and are like

talk about the CDC. I don't care about chickens. who saw the title and are like, talk about the CDC. I don't care about chickens. So let's get into the nitty-gritty of everything. So you had called – we mentioned this briefly on the show, but you had called the CDC. Their data was wrong. I want to ask this directly. You were saying that the CDC's data suggested the vaccine made you more likely to get COVID. Is that what it was? The Pfizer data, and again, I want to predicate this

with this information. There were about 600 people in their placebo group and 600 people in their vaccine group who had already had COVID. They had like 20 or 30,000 participants. So they were naturally immune. They were naturally immune. And what they found was there was one more person in the vaccine group than the placebo group. It's like 20 in each who got reinfected or it was a breakthrough infection, whatever you want to call it. It's such a small amount of data to make a proposition on. But the CDC was saying that it was 92% efficacious, the vaccine was, for those who had already had COVID. It was, at first, I called it a typo. And we called it a typo when we talked on the phone.

And now I call it a damn lie. They are liars. They were naturally immune to begin with. So let's talk about where we're at now after these past couple of years. When the vaccine was being released, Joe Biden said, if you get this, you won't get COVID. We saw Rachel Maddow. The virus stops with you. And that was just complete bullshit. Now we have the Omicron surge among the vaccinated. Now, you want to know what really fucking makes me lose it? Is when these people

are like, I saw a friend of mine, someone I know on Facebook, a Facebook friend, someone I'm not really friends with that much anymore, said, I am really sick with COVID in the hospital. Thank heavens I'm triple vaccinated. Otherwise it would have been so bad. And I'm like, you're in the hospital. Why? What

data do you have to suggest you wouldn't have been in the hospital if if you would have been dead? That's mental illness. That is a mental illness. People are brainwashed. There was literally a man who was vaccinated who died and the daughter said, thankfully, he was vaccinated. So he didn't suffer as much. What does that mean? He died. Well, you know, it's ridiculous. Well, first of all, we don't want anyone to die. But the reality is, unfortunately, we die. The real truth that no one wants to talk about is that it has been mostly people over the age of 65 that have died. That is the real truth.

Sadly, it's been our grandparents. It's been that older generation. It's been people that are very unhealthy. But what we really need to be talking about is what are the vaccines doing? And here's what concerns me greatly. We need to be asking serious questions about this because right now we're hearing about members of the military who are being forced to take the COVID vaccine or they're being kicked out. There are problems. We are seeing real problems and reports in the military with their health. We are hearing about pilots who are being grounded because,

you know, they're starting to have heart problems. There are real issues with clotting. I mean, this is the type of thing where if we don't investigate what is the vaccine doing to people versus what COVID-19 is doing to people, we already know what happens to people with COVID-19. We've had two years. We need to investigate what is the vaccine doing to people. And the demographic at highest risk for myocarditis is young males. Yes.

Healthy young males. Yes. Guess what demographic makes up most of the military, enlisted in the military? Healthy young males. It's young males 18 to 24. Okay. And so it's a risk-reward calculation that should be done based on everybody's health condition and their age. And the problem is if you've already had COVID, there's nobody who's proven that there's a better

reward than there is a risk from taking the vaccine if you already have natural immunity. That's why I never took the vaccine, will not take the vaccine. I've already got natural immunity. It might be a different calculation for me if I'd never had COVID or if I were morbidly obese. Did you see the Josh Zeps episode of Joe Rogan's podcast? No, I didn't. So this is the one where Joe got a lot of flack because he claimed myocarditis was a bigger risk in young men. And Zeps said, no, COVID is a bigger risk. And Joe was like, oh, interesting. And he got roasted for that.

But one of the things I was really missing from that conversation, Joe said, there's a myocarditis risk from the vaccine among young men. I think it's greater than COVID is. Josh responded to him saying, that's not true. COVID is a greater risk. But let's put those ideas together. If you already got COVID and have a high risk for myocarditis you have natural immunity so why get a vaccine that would only increase your risk of myocarditis now everybody you know all the establishment left mocked joe for that one but i'm like he's he missed the greater point

what everyone else missed is that they didn't know what fucking variant they were talking about the first variant of covid was way more deadly than Omicron. And Zeps was just saying COVID, COVID, COVID. He's not specifying because he probably doesn't even know. The fucking Fauci doesn't even know. There could be eight variants right now in my body. And don't you question science. I will never. The science is changing. It's the scientific

method. Let's rely on that. Have you seen the meme of Darth Vader? The science has changed. The science has been altered. Pray I don't alter it further. That's the truth. I'm tweeting that. No, but you know what? I'm going to get out of here.

Oh, that's crazy. So remember before COVID, BC, that's the whole time zone. That was before COVID. And then we're living in AC. This is after COVID. But before COVID, every single year, they would create a flu shot. I've never taken the flu shot. I don't want it.

I've also never gotten vaccinated. I don't want it. I don't want it. I've also never gotten vaccinated. I don't want it. I don't need it. It doesn't work that well. Yeah, right. But before that, they would create it based on what strain of flu, what variant they thought it might be. Taking a guess. So even then, to some degree, it is a crapshoot.

Yeah, because they don't know for sure. But I will also say this. Science can change, and that's okay, and it's all right. I mean, science in the sense that you can get more research, you can learn new things, you can realize that your former conclusions were wrong, and that's fine. But the problem is you can't say the science changed or the science is liable to change while at the same time saying if you challenge what the science says now, you're an insane conspiracy theorist.

You don't get to say this is infallible, but it's changing. But remember the Catholic Church? I'm Catholic. Well, I grew up Catholic too, but remember back in the day, a long time ago, I think it was in the 1600s, the Catholic Church said the earth is flat. And Galileo said, no, it's round. And they put Galileo on house arrest. That's the same thing as like kicking me off of Twitter.

No, Marjorie, you're going into house arrest. That's the same thing as like kicking me off of Twitter. No, Marjorie, you're going into house arrest. You're not allowed to tweet anymore because you said the truth that everyone already knows. And so it's the same thing. That's what's happening now. They were the authoritarian power of the day, the Catholic Church.

It was a good time. I just want to say this. Oh, sorry. Do you want to? Well, you guys brought up the church. Then I want to show this video. Yes. Well, I just want to say one thing. I want to see a video firstly it was uh the controversy

you're referring to was with geocentrism versus heliocentrism it was not the earth being flat around it was a question of what the center of our solar system was but also on top of that the universe too yeah but the um the the church has never made any official declaration on where the earth is in the universe because it's outside the purview of moral theology, basically. However, I know that with the Galileo controversy, he and the Pope at the time, this is a kind of interesting bit of history, they were frenemies. They had known each other before the time that he was the pope and so they got into a spat over whether the um sun or earth was the center of the universe and galileo basically wrote this play where he was referring to the pope as simplicicus uh calling him stupid and so

it was it was actually much more to do with um. There are other elements. Oh, it's always politics. But it's not about the Catholic Church. Sure, sure. Let's get into this story. Are you saying if he had been polite about it, he wouldn't have gotten in trouble? But it's more about their authoritarian. It's the authoritarian policy, not necessarily the church. I don't want to misrepresent the situation either.

Obviously, there's more to it. Well, I want to talk about this other story. Yeah, yeah, sure. Trying to find a hook on it. So I don't want to get roped up in historical debate because we have this video that's related to the vaccines. Thomas, have you seen this video yet? I saw it. Well, I want to talk about this other story. So I don't want to get roped up in historical debate because we have this video that's related to the vaccines. Thomas, have you seen this video yet? I saw it. You did? Today, yeah. I'm going to play

it in full because we can't do that on YouTube. We can do it here. I hope y'all are ready for this. I don't mean to brag. I don't care. But I want you to know, double vaxxed, booster, flu shot, and I'm going to be honest, I have the shingle shot too. And I still get my period.

What? Yes. Traveled, went to Mexico twice, did shows, meet and greets, never got COVID. Clearly, Jesus loves me the most. Seriously. So nice. So nice. I don't mean to brag.

I don't say hair. But I want you to know. There's a couple things I need to say real quick. The crowd busting out laughing. It is Kierkegaard manifest. Do you know Kierkegaard's clown story? He wrote that a fire breaks out in the backstage of a theater, and the clown runs out to warn the crowd that there's a fire,

and they all begin laughing. He becomes more erratic, saying, no, no, listen, there's a fire, and they all laugh even harder. I think that's how the world will end, with everyone laughing, thinking it was a big joke. And this woman boasting about getting triple vaxxed, flu shot, shingle shot, then saying she's traveled and never gotten sick, basically bragging about her good health amid these things, then uses the Lord's name in vain and is smited down and falls and smacks her head. I'm not a deeply religious person or anything like that i just think when i first heard this story it was a story of a woman bragging

about getting all these vaccines and not getting hurt and then passing out which was hilarious but then when i actually watched the video and saw they mixed in a little blasphemy i was just like yeah of course does she say clearly jesus loves me the most yeah Yes. And then she says, and then she just faints. She drops to the ground. Now, wait, wait, hold on. And she looked completely healthy and fine. I mean, she didn't look like she was dizzy before that. Nothing.

I could hear her breathing, though. And then she said, I went to travel to Mexico and you can hear her voice starting to get... Well, she's going. But it was after she said, clearly Jesus loves me the most. Something happened after that.

She blasphemed. According to her, the doctor said they couldn't find anything wrong with her. Unbelievable. Did you also see the mural of George Floyd being struck by lightning? Did you see that? Yep. So the roof is not damaged. Only the outer wall and only the George Floyd was decimated, was destroyed by this.

I got to tell you, sometimes you get these stories and it really makes you question what's going on in this universe. Oh, I'm a believer. I'm a big believer. What do you think God is? Oh, I know exactly who God is. He created everything that we know, that we see. We feel he created us. He created everything, everything.

God created everything. But the fact that we can see things like this happen you can't ever question god's authority and she was putting the vaccines above everything and claiming that her life was so great because of the vaccines and then she put god's god's son's name into it and claimed that he loved her the most and she was struck down just like george flo. I'd never really looked at that building before until you, I don't know if you're going to put that picture up. I'll pull it up, but I'm curious, Thomas, are you religious?

Yes. But I'm also an engineer. And there are moments when I wonder if God's creation is more like a piece of software. Have you heard? I used to be pretty atheist or agnostic, and then I found the cosmic microwave background radiation, which is like the leftover from the Big Bang, this web of energy. And I think that's pulsing through us and causing the heat in our bodies and our stars

and our planets, and that's God's animating us. It's like the animation is God's experience. Let me ask you, Thomas. This is the image. You've seen it before, I'd imagine? Yes. So you can see Thomas. This is the image. You've seen it before, I'd imagine? Yes. So you can see the inner wall is not damaged. Only the outer

wall, which contains mural, and only the part that had George Floyd. George Floyd actually was wearing a crown in that image, too. The roof is not damaged at all. The ground is dry. So you went to MIT. It doesn't mean you're a meteorologist.

But the scientist in me wants to know how many George Floyd paintings there are and how many times lightning strikes. Yeah, exactly. And then let's calculate the odds in this because I took statistics and probability at MIT, and we could do this. So let me ask you. Just everybody, is it common it common uncommon rare for lightning to strike when it's a dry out i've i've seen it happen i was i was out changing the oil in my car and the neighbor's barn got hit by lightning and it was sunny and it was it was about to storm and his barn caught on fire and i got shocked from my car wow because i was touching it so wow there was uh this was confirmed the radar the new local news weather outlets tracked the lightning strike

and reported it then other people witnessed it and then reporters put the put the story together they're like hey this was a recorded lightning strike in this area people witnessed it so there's there's very few clouds in the sky the The ground is dry. Lightning strikes the side of a building. The roof is undamaged. Only the outer wall. There's two layers of the bricks. The inner wall is fine. And only the part with George Floyd.

I tell you, man. They painted it with a metallic paint. Also, well, I just want to say this. I am glad that there were witness reports of lightning striking or else this would have been considered a hate crime. All about how this was vandal crime. It would have been white supremacists attack George Floyd. I think it is.

Like I said, I'm a believer. I believe God does things and I believe that God could have caused the lightning to strike that and strike down that mural. And the reason why is they worship George Floyd. They worshiped him. And I'm not going to judge him. It's not my job to strike that and strike down that mural. And the reason why is they worshiped George Floyd. They worshiped him. And I'm not going to judge him.

It's not my job to do that and talk about who he was or what he did as a man. But they did. They worshiped him. They gave him a golden casket. Look at his crown. Exactly. This mural specifically gave George Floyd a crown. So I didn't know that when the story first came out.

And when I was pulling up images of the mural before it was destroyed and saw that they put a crown on his head, I was like, okay, now that is even crazier. And maybe what we need to understand, and you talk about the number of times lightning strikes and the number of George Floyd murals or statues or whatever, it may be more about the people that created that mural and what was in their heart and that may be what god was trying to do so so i want to bring it back to the vaccines obviously um i think the the blasphemy angle of this this this female performers uh you know routine is interesting but i just i think it's interesting too here's a woman who goes up on stage she says i'm i'm septuple vaxxed and then

pass out hits her head what do you What do you guys think about this stuff? You know, I mean, the establishment's screaming at Joe about misinformation and all that stuff. But I'm wondering, based off of your research, what your thoughts are on vaccine injury or anything like that. You know what struck me about her video? Two things. The part I found most disturbing is how she graphically said, I'm still getting my period. And that's a gift from God that make women so special and different is that we're able to have children. And that's such a gift.

And she was bragging about that. And then she also said, clearly, Jesus loves me the most. Women were reporting problems with their periods from the vaccine. Oh, no, I do know that. But it was something that... It's vulgar. Yeah, it was vulgar and it was gross and it was just disturbing. But then her saying Jesus loves me the most and then all of a sudden something clearly went wrong with her.

Go ahead. Yeah, I just want to point out one irony here, though, which is that, I mean, I firmly believe that God holds the universe in existence at all times. Everything that happens happens for a reason. And she's saying Jesus loves me more in some blasphemous sense. But I believe the reason that this happened, the reason God let it happen or made it happen was for her own good so that she could see her own foolishness and possibly develop an authentic relationship with Jesus Christ. Yes, absolutely.

You know, every time you observe something yourself, they call it, they say, oh, that's an antidote. You, you, it's not valid. You don't, you don't have, you don't have a thousand data points and it's not valid. Well, it's real, it's a real important data point when you are the antidote, right? When you are that person. And there was a point at which with COVID, we heard about it on the news, and then we all knew somebody who had COVID, right?

And then there was a point where we all had somebody in our family who had COVID. And there were all these milestones. But I think we passed a point that nobody really noticed, which is we all knew somebody who got injured. Yeah. We all knew. A family friend in the hospital, ER.

Right. At some point, we all knew somebody who got injured. And you can't ignore that. Dude, I knew a guy that he came with COVID. He wasn't feeling well. So they panicked. They took him to the hospital. They put him on a fucking ventilator, destroyed his lungs.

He went unconscious. They put him in a medically induced coma. And then they were talking about transplanting his lungs. I think it's the ventilator. Those things apparently destroy the body. It's a last resort. I agree. And remdesivir. Take a look at this. A lot of people have been put on that.

This is a post on Reddit that's been circulated by a lot of people on the right. This is a user who posted to r slash Fitbit on Reddit. Fitbit, of course, tracks your health. This user writes, This is my resting heart rate when standing. What the fuck should I do? My left wrist and hand has been throbbing every day since the first vaccine and pain left side of chest since second.

I'm early 20s female, not Fitbit, but I don't know where to post. 142 BPM, she says. Now, this is a random person. This is not a viral, this is not a person with tons of followers. Someone saw this post and started sharing it around. Why is there this story? Is it just one, is it an anecdote and it's irrelevant to the data? Or should we be concerned that the early 20s female has a resting heart rate of 142 beats per minute, which is insanely fast after getting the vaccine and now she's swollen. Apparently she went to the hospital and they said has a resting heart rate of 142 beats per minute, which is insanely fast. Yes. After getting the vaccine and now she's swollen. Apparently she went to the hospital and they said there are some issues.

I think we should be extremely concerned. And this goes back to the VAERS system. It's the self-reporting system that's on the CDC website. And they refuse to acknowledge all of these reports that people have logged into the VAERS system about having vaccine injuries, reporting issues like this all the way to all these deaths. And, you know, I think it's criminal, absolutely criminal for our government to completely ignore all of the people that have gone through the effort to report these things on VAERS. And they're ignoring all of their stories.

They're ignoring things like this. And then they're ignoring all of their stories. They're ignoring things like this. And then they're still saying, take the vaccine, take the vaccine. Yeah. I mean, it's unfortunate because they will argue that the likelihood of dying from the vaccine is still low enough that it makes more sense to get it. But if that is truly the case, then let people have the misinformation or let people have the information. Don't, that was a Freudian slip. I'm trying to spread misinformation, but no, let people have the misinformation or let people have the information don't uh that was a freudian slip i'm trying to spread misinformation but no let people have the actual information so after the covid vaccine was released vaccine deaths increased significantly they they uh in the first quarter of 2021 compared to the first quarter of 2020 vaccine related deaths increased six thousand percent so

what they will argue is that and there's a beautiful irony here they will argue is that, and there's a beautiful irony here, they will argue that we can't really trust this data all that much because someone who gets the vaccine but dies of something else is counted as a vaccine death. Exactly. Which is exactly how they measure COVID deaths. But that's how they measure COVID deaths. When we take back the house, though, in 2022,

when we take back the house, I'm going to tell you, that VAERS system and all those deaths'm going to tell you that bears system and all those deaths is going to be one of the things that i'm going to be demanding our republican controlled majority in congress investigate because those people deserve their stories investigated let me tell you something else that absolutely has to be investigated is the fda approval scam we're on yes on august 23rd, the FDA announced that they had approved Comirnaty. As far as I know, there's not been a single dose of this administered in the United States. On 8-24, one day later, after FDA approval came for Comirnaty, the Secretary of Defense

mandated it for the soldiers, for everybody in the military, based on, and he says based on the FDA approval. Then when the soldiers are forced to take the vaccine, they are told that if you read the fine print, what you see is the mandate is based on FDA approval. But because the FDA approved vaccine does not exist, the only way we can satisfy this mandate is for you to take the non-FDA approved. It's in Europe. You can get Comirnaty in Europe. But that's not FDA approved here.

It's not like you could sneak that over here and then that would magically be. It's a name Comirnaty in Europe. I got to tell you, this is why I say civil war, because there are deeply evil people who are pulling strings. They know it's an intentional act. The things we see in the media with the lies, the things we see with that, that is an overt action,

an intentional act to cause harm to people. There has to be documentation somewhere that's discoverable where they, this is not a simple plot. This is pretty damn complicated that you're going to pull this off. Yeah. Well, one thing they'll often do is they'll try to say something like, well, you know,

far more people have died of COVID than have died of the vaccine. And sure, that's absolutely true. However, when you look at the individual situations, that doesn't map on as a one-to-one comparison. So if you are a healthy young person who has had COVID in the past and has natural immunity, and there's no evidence that the vaccine will significantly increase the natural immunity that you already have, why should you get a vaccine which increased total vaccine death rates by 6,000% after it was released?

What is the justification for that? What is the reason for doing that? There may be other vaccines involved with that uptick. We don't know. That's true. It's almost tongue-in-cheek for me to say that, but I've got to say that because it's real. It's conceivable, but based on the history where it was so low with all these other vaccines and all of a sudden the sudden spike, it just doesn't make sense.

When there's this new vaccine that was rushed through very quickly, made more quickly than any vaccine that we're familiar with. The other vaccines aren't also universal max vaccination programs. And they're not mRNA vaccines. That's also true. Let's give credit to Dr. Robert Malone, who

invented the mRNA vaccine. And he's saying, do not take these. He's saying they're not safe. And he created that technology. He got it I thought his episode of Rogan Was actually reasonable There were some things that the right believes he pushed back on

There was a lot the establishment believes he pushed back on But you know what Any truth teller is a threat to the Established order We were before the show Thomas You and I were talking about epinephrine Which is anaphylactic shock If someone goes into shock they take take the EpiPen.

It's an adrenaline. Yeah. So it was like 20, you said 25 cents for epinephrine to get one. But then this new patent came out and they like advanced, they created a new version of it called, and they called it epinephrine or no, EpiPen. And then they charged $400 a piece for it instead of 25 cents. And because, and what was the reasoning that they, that we can't just spin up a new epinephrine? Well,

I mean, the, the, the first EpiPen, you know, existed for a long time and it costs a lot of money, more than the 25 cents that of epinephrine that was in it. But when the patent expired,

they, they invented a new EpiPen. And then a lot of people blame the, the patent system for why an EpiPen costs $400, but that's not why. It's because it's hard to get the old one. But explain the patents. All of these medications and pharmaceutical companies get patents on these medications. Just real quick, the reason the EpiPen costs $400, I think you guys are missing this very

important point, to be fair, is that they got you by the balls. You're going to die if you don't get it, so you'll pay anything, won't you? And there's only one person making it. Right. As soon as two people make it and they're in competition, then you find out what the cost to them is to make it. But the reason there's not two people or a lot of people making it is not because of the patent. The patent expired on the original EpiPen. Tim and I could start a company and make it if we

could get FDA approval for the old one. Do you think they literally will just railroad people? They'll be like, we will see you when we see you. What's next? Wait, what if we made EpiPens not for human use?

And you put big black, do not use for humans. This product is identical to the EpiPen in every way, but it's not EpiPens not for human use? And you put big black, do not use for humans. This product is identical to the EpiPen in every way, but it's not. Well, then you couldn't get a prescription. That's the solution to everything. No, seriously. Raw milk, put pet food on it. That's what they do. That's exactly what they do.

We bought from the farm, and I said, you guys sell raw milk? And they were like, only for pets. And I was like, and so they pull out these bottles, and it says pet milk. And they were like, only for pets. And I was like, and so they pull out these bottles and it says pet milk. It's like a goat on it. And I was like, so this is raw milk, right? And like, yep. And I'm like, and it's the same raw milk you'd get anywhere else. Yep. But you're selling it and saying, I shouldn't drink it. That's right. But it's the same raw milk I'd get anywhere else. That's correct. Yeah. Okay. And then a guy like the lady goes, there's some guy, he just buys it and drinks it right here on the spot. We tell him not to do it, but he does it anyway.

And it's not their fault. Right. By the way, and now people will distort what we're saying and saying that you should take animal versions of medication. Like the horse dewormer. The horse dewormer. They said that about me when they said it about Joe Rote. Because we got sick in end of October. I called the hospital. They said, about me When they said it about Joe We got sick in end of October I called the hospital

They said fuck off They were like go home and go to sleep I called Joe to ask him what did they say to you He was like you gotta find a good doctor Call a private practice We called the doctor We ended up getting everything The same treatment

We got steroids for inflammation We got inhalers We got ivermectin. And then, of course, the Daily Beast ran a story claiming it was really, really well-crafted. They said, meet the new poster boy of horse dewormer or something like that with my picture, because I explicitly said I did not want it. I don't want to take it. So they wanted to smear me as taking horse dewormer, but I explicitly stated in my video I told the doctor, no, I don't

want ivermectin. It's not FDA approved, and the doctor insisted. So they couldn't claim I advocated for it. So they just called me the poster boy for it. That's kind of cool. So as a salesman, if I let people know, just so you know, the FDA has said this is not for human consumption, and then it's just kind of up to you. We live in a free society.

You can't say that. You can take i that. Oh. It asks – you can take – so they sell ivermectin at the – Rural King. Yeah, or – Tractor Supply. And it says not for human consumption. Or Mexico. Yes.

Or other foreign countries. So if you made an EpiPen with the old patent, sold it for a dollar, and put on it not for human use i mean theoretically you could argue is your dog stung by a bee well give your dog the epi pen this epi pen has the same amount of adrenaline used for a human you know whose weight is 150 by the way in defense of this strategy the ceo of pfizer is a veterinarian from from greece well then from greece he has been treating us like animals yes that's a true story we are animals well kind of like animals

they experiment on right I mean those poor little beagles let's not forget about those could we actually do that horrible could we actually make a pet epi pen and it says not for human use

I'm sure there's pet epi pens that exist I would guess that's pretty cool so it doesn't require all these headlines are pretty cool. So it doesn't require- All these headlines are going to be awesome. It doesn't require- I know.

Marjorie Taylor Greene and Thomas Massey advocate for use of animal EpiPens. There's still like FDA and EPA, they still get involved. Oh, we're looking them up. Okay, what do we have here? No, I don't know if they sell them. Oh, man. That means there's a market. Shouldn't the leftists be on our side on this one?

There's something you need to know about. Overpriced EpiPens were being ripped off. I thought they were for cheap EpiPens. Yeah, they are. That's something everybody can get down with is cheap medicine, man. Yeah, absolutely. Cheap medicine. Okay, so let's talk about that.

People with diabetes. Oh, yeah. They desperately need their insulin, right? So a vial of insulin is around $250 per vial. A lot of diabetics need at least two vials on average per month. So look at how much they're spending. They're spending at least $500 or more per month on their medication. Type 1 diabetics, they usually get it when they're a child. They have diabetes for life. Over the lifetime of an American with diabetes, they're spending so much money. It is way too expensive. Here's the real truth, though. If you

go to other countries, you can walk in. Take Greece, for example. I think Greece is the country that I read the story on. You can walk into a pharmacy, buy insulin without a prescription, and it is so much cheaper, so much more affordable and and here we are in america having to pay so much money for insulin and that's a function of the regulatory scheme it's not because of patents the patent long ran out on insulin right but it's a new formulation that may be patented but it's the new formulation that's patented yeah i have good news for you guys uh you don't have to worry about the hit pieces it's actually that people buy human epinephrine for their dogs

not the other way around so if you have a dog and the price of uh epi pens goes up you have to buy human epi pens for your dog so there is no dog version but But there is a horse version. Really? So I talked to a veterinarian, Ted Yoho. I served in Congress with him. And he said, when somebody calls me and their horse needs epinephrine, he says, I take a vial and I take a syringe. It's $35. Hey. No, no, no.

How many shots is that, though? It's 50 milliliters. Right. And so you only need a fraction of that to treat your horse. What he explained to me is the syringe costs $1.50 and the amount of epinephrine was about 25 cents. Can you imagine this? As a veterinarian.

0.3 milligrams of epinephrine costs $500. Holy shit. It's 0.3 milligrams of epinephrine costs $500. Holy shit. It's 0.6 with two injectors. So for people that have severe allergies and they have to buy this, they have to buy these EpiPens that they're spending that much money. But here you can buy this right here for cattle, horse, sheep, and swine. And it's a bottle. You'll need a syringe.

$32.99. It's $32.99 for six. $50 million. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. If you buy six of them, each of them is $32.99 for six. 50 milliliters. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. If you buy six of them, each of them is $32.99. But how many doses are in that? You've got to look. There's far more doses in that than there are in an EpiPen.

We'd have to do milligrams conversion to milliliters. Oh, no. Okay. That's a lot of work. So there's 50 milliliters in one of these bottles, and the EpiPen I looked at had 0.3 milligrams of epinephrine. 0.3. I'minephrine. Okay. 0.3.

I'm about to load it. Tell a funny story in the meantime. You would only need to know the density. And then the concentration. You don't, the milliliters. That's a 1 to 5,000 concentration I think it was.

This is where a real science degree from MIT comes in handy. I think that sheep one had a 1 to 5,000 ratio. Is that right? It's not a political science degree. I will add. So 0.2 milligrams

is 0.0002 milliliters. Holy shit. Yeah. So wait, wait, wait. Hold on a minute. Don't you think most Americans, if they really understood how the government fucks them over constantly, they would not tolerate this anymore? Yeah, especially if they're hungry. Like if they're fasting and their mind is clear, they would immediately make a move and change the government fucks them over constantly, they would not tolerate this anymore. Yeah, especially if they're hungry. Like if they're fasting and their mind is clear,

they would immediately make a move and change the government. It's so out of control. I think there's something to that. I think there's really something to that. People are far more likely to fight for what's true and good if they deny themselves things. And so, yeah, fasting is very important. I think you're right.

I think part of the reason, because I think even when people do know how horrible the government is and how it's screwing them over, we've just gotten so complacent and lazy and pleasure-seeking, so we don't try to improve things. Wait, Tim's about to lose his mind. 50 milliliters of water is 50,000 milligrams. Yeah. Yes.

Okay, so if that holds true for this bottle you could buy for $35 and it is 50 milliliters, then I think that's – now divide it by 1,000 because I think that's one part per 1,000 parts of water. Correct. I'm going to let you guys figure this out. I did say gazpacho instead of gazpacho. No, no, no. So hold on.

It's actually quite simple. If 50 milliliters is 50... We all have those moments. Yeah, I know. The media is loving it. I think it was trending a long time on Twitter tonight. If 50 milliliters is 50,000 milligrams and this is one per 1,000, that means this bottle is

the equivalent of 50 milligrams of epinephrine. Yes, it is. That means you are looking at, what, 150 times or what's 0.3 milligrams in an EpiPen? What you're going to get to... We all have calculators. Yes, it is. That means you are looking at, what, 150 times? Or what's 0.3 milligrams in an EpiPen? What you're going to get to? We all have calculators on our feet. 500 something. What you will get to is 25 cents per human dose.

25 cents? Because the veterinarian, Ted Yoho, told me this. And he says, I got more in the syringe than I do the epinephrine. I got like $1.50 in the syringe and 25 cents in the epinephrine when i treat a horse and now you know but it's a house call so you got to charge him like 100 bucks he's going to show up and give it to him all i'm saying the reason the differential there tim is regulation it's not a patent so like regulation the fda. That's the FDA. We're going to make you go through a very, very expensive and long process where you spend a lot of money.

And then so they're like, okay, we're going to charge 500 bucks. And then so are they paying the FDA this whole time? So that 500 bucks is actually the government extorting the people. So this is where lobbyists come in. So lobbyists work for big pharmaceutical companies. And they come to people like Thomas and I and work very hard to get us to pass certain bills in Congress. And then, you know, what happens in the FDA? Well, these people, they don't have to run for reelection like we do.

These people have these jobs for a very long time. What incentive do those people in the FDA have to make sure that they have these regulations in place so that only certain pharmaceutical companies truly financially benefit by being able to charge this much money for human epi pens. It says here on this website that one milliliter per 100 pounds. So if that holds true the same as horses as it does for humans. Yeah, there you go. It's actually quite simple. You've got maybe about 40 to 50 doses, maybe 35 doses for $35 a dose. Versus one and one EpiPen?

Versus $500 for one dose and one EpiPen. Dollar a dose, but you're not a veterinarian. You're buying it on the Internet. So if you're a vet, you're down 25 cents. Okay, and anyone criticizing us right now would say, but is it safe for humans? That would be the internet. So if you're a vet, you're down 25 cents. Okay, and anyone criticizing us right now would say, but is it safe for humans? That would be the argument. It's the same chemical compound. You guys

are telling people to take horse medicine, right? It says for animal use only. Oh, yep, yep. No, no, absolutely. I'm an animal. No, no. I sure am. By the way, the CEO of Pfizer is qualified to administer this to animals. That's correct. I will say, as I always do, you can't take horse medicine, and you've got to go talk to a doctor. You can't even make this up.

The CEO of Pfizer is a veterinarian from Greece. Wait, what? Yes, he's a vet. What? I did not know that. Do not question him. The whole time. He's the CEO of Pfizer. This is who The whole time. He's a CEO advisor.

This is who the science is? He's a veterinarian. The whole time they're making fun of people. I thought he was a veteran. I misheard. Look, the bar is over there. I'm kidding. I never heard that.

That's my East Kentucky accent. Yeah, because he could have stepped up and said, hey, by the way, it's not horse medicine. It's medicine that's in the state that's going to be fed to a horse, but it's just medicine, guys. I'm a vet. Well, but also what's so funny about this, right, is they were accusing Joe Rogan of telling people to take horse dewormer even though he took the version of ivermectin that is packaged for humans to consume.

That would genuinely be like if someone took epinephrine from an EpiPen and people said, well, that's horse medicine because they found this epinephrine which is packaged for animals. That's why I said Brian Stelter drinks engine coolant. He does. He actually does. Yeah. Because water is used to cool engines.

And he drinks it. Yeah. No, but he actually drinks like actual coolant. Oh, but stop it. The CEO of Spotify says you cannot say certain things. Oh, my gosh. Is he a veteran, too? Is he a veteran as well?

You mean a veteran or a veterinarian? A veterinarian. I'm sorry. Oh my gosh. I don't know. Are you like me? I meant to say, I just had your gap. Gestapo.

We understand each other. Versus communists. I mean, what is it really? Hold on. Hold on. You're saying veterinarian. I thought you said veteran-arian. Oh.

Or that. Or that. Veteran-arian. Now, I gotta be honest. If the guy's a fucking Nazi, I wouldn't be surprised. How much you want to bet Spotify does kick this episode off? Is it on Spotify? This one will be on Spotify.

Oh, you're in trouble, man. I don't give a shit. Good for you. Don't apologize. No, I wouldn't. And Adam Carolla said the same thing. He said, go fuck yourselves. I'm not apologizing.

He said, I'm not going to apologize to you assholes. That's what he says when he actually does something wrong to me. Good. Maybe we can keep working and get you a $100 million contract from Rumble. Oh, yeah. I think we already offered that pretty much. We weren't offered $100 million. It was pretty close.

I don't know. The problem is Rumble – I don't want to say too much about – we had Rumble, the CEO on the show. Yeah. And it's really simple. I just think They're not willing to pay what the show what our show is totally worth And so they're like, you know, we we'll make you an offer and i'm like we make more than that so it's like I had a question. How do you guys like, um handle your egos in congress?

Like talking about apologizing if you've done something wrong or when people tell you how great you are all the time and you start to believe it or when people tell you how shitty you are all the time, you start to believe it. Like, how do you what do you do to handle that? I've apologized before. I don't I don't have a problem with apologizing when I think I should or or maybe I've done something wrong and I should apologize. I think that's part of human relationships. And so that's OK. So I had to apologize for, you know, in the beginning for posting things on Facebook that I probably shouldn't have or reading and talking about so-called conspiracy theories that we now know are truly conspiracy theories. And they were obvious to me way earlier, way before I ever got elected. And people like to pretend that I actually ran for Congress on these crazy things when I didn't at all. But no, I don't think there's anything wrong with apologizing,

but it's caving to the mob. You never cave to the mob. You never cave. And that's the most important thing we have to do is stand up to the mob. Do you want to? There's two times you're the smartest person in the world, when you turn 18 and when you get elected to Congress. That's a good one. And people start to believe they're really smart because they have to vote on all these things, but they're not. And people do lose their tempers, like one-on-one on the floor. I've never seen anybody hit anybody, but it's almost come to that. And people have called each other names. And typically, if that happens, they apologize within two or three days because they realize there's only 435 here.

I say it's like an aquarium. They're not always there. Well, hopefully it doesn't break down into a caning anytime soon. We don't go in that direction. But we have gone over time. So guys, it's been absolutely incredible having you. It's been an honor and a privilege. Thanks so much for coming. We'd love to have you back.

Oh, I'd love to come back. Thank you. Yeah, absolutely. And we'll bring some other people and we'll mix it up like we did. I want to go to your farm someday. A field trip. We'd like a clutch capacitor. You'll see chickens and ducks and cattle and dogs that don't

need walked. They walk themselves. Right on. But I want to thank Marjorie for bringing me here. Oh, yeah. She's like my Sherpa. Bringing me out here. Well, thank you for coming. And thanks for having us, Tim.

Absolutely. Absolutely. It would be great to have you guys back with some other people and do different conversations, but we'll get that sorted in the future. And for everybody who's a member, thank you so much for making all of this possible. Seriously, membership is what primarily funds everything we do, and we are all eternally grateful for your

support. So thanks for hanging out, and we'll see you all next time.