Timcast IRL - Sydney Sweeney ATTACKED For Doing Naked Advertisement, Loses Followers w/ Dr. Ron Elfenbein

Episode Date: September 16, 2026

On this episode Tim & Ian are joined by Dr. Ron Elfenbein to discuss Sydney Sweeney losing 200,000 followers following a racy photo shoot Ed Sheeran's tour in jeopardy after multiple artists drop out ...over Macklemore Palestine controversy Liberals lying and accusing Kash Patel of defending beastiality  Thomas Massie moving to impeach Pete Hegseth Trump rejecting claims to slow down AI advancement & saying the sentiment is a hoax Leftists vandalizing a newly unveiled statue of Charlie Kirk at the TPUSA HQ Leftist comedians calling for killing billionaires Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere) | https://www.shoutout.fans/timpool Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) | https://allthatremains.komi.io/ Tate @realTateBrown (everywhere) |  @TimcastTateBrown  (YT) Producer: Carter @carterbanks (X) |  @trashhouserecords  (YT) https://carterbanks.komi.io Guest: Dr. Ron Elfenbein @RonElfenbeinmd (X) | https://dropthecase.com/ Dr. Ron Elfenbein is a Maryland physician specializing in emergency medicine who trained at Johns Hopkins Hospital and has also been involved in politics, including running as a Republican candidate for the Maryland House of Delegates in 2006.

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Starting point is 00:00:05 Sydney Sweeney is going massively viral again because she put up a commercial of herself and she's just basically naked. And every guy everywhere was very happy and they appreciated that commercial. And now they've heard of the company Novig. Women almost everywhere, not every woman, but they're really pissed off. I've seen all of these viral trending Instagram and TikTok videos or women are complaining saying Sydney Sweeney is bad or whatever. And I, you know, jealous. I guess, whatever. We'll talk about it for sure. But she's lost 200,000 followers on Instagram. And she got 25.8. I don't think she really cares all that much. But it's not just this.
Starting point is 00:00:47 Ed Sheeran is getting canceled. He's artists are dropping off of his tour because McElmore was pro-Palestine. The promoter didn't want that at the concert and removed him from the tour. The fans, or I should say the activists, blamed Ed Shearin for it. and now they're dropping off his tour. He issued a statement, nobody cares. Guys, I know a lot of people, they say, we need to talk about hardcore policy. There's this older gentleman I know as a friend of mine, and he says, when you talk about what's actually going on
Starting point is 00:01:19 with taxes and health care, maybe then we can have a serious country. And I'm like, listen, that's all happening too. And we'll talk about it. Cash Patel had a hearing, the FBI. There was an oversight hearing for the FBI. We'll talk about that. something about Cash Patel not disqualifying somebody who wants to enter because they were a victim
Starting point is 00:01:39 of bestiality. And then, of course, liberal media doesn't care. Nobody cares. I think the media has gone generally insane. I think, unfortunately, a lot of people want insanity. I think there's unfortunately a small amount of people, namely all of you watching, who want a degree of sanity. But it really just is, you know, guys, when we're at the point where Tucker Carlson has a guy in the shows as algebra is fake. I'm like, I think we've jumped the shark culturally. And I'll just say this. I had some conversations with people. I think I know why. A lot of people think we're facing economic collapse for a variety of reasons. It's not just the AI conversation. It's the Iran War conversation. It's the diesel cost of diesel. It's the fertility bomb. And so you add all
Starting point is 00:02:23 these things together. And the general sentiment is, get your bag now. Stock up, because it's coming down, baby. Hopefully not. Well, we're going to talk about it and a lot more. So make sure you guys smash the like button, share the show and all that good stuff. Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Dr. Ron Elfinbine. Hey, Tim. How are you? I'm great. Who are you? What do you? I'm an emergency medicine doctor from Maryland, John Hopkins trained to your doc, and really Thanks for having me. I'm honored to be here. You're not, you're even dressed like a doctor.
Starting point is 00:02:58 It wasn't on purpose. I don't just play one on TV. Yeah, no, no. He came from work. I said, sorry, I just came from work. And I'm like, well, you're a doctor, so people will figure it out, you know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:05 But yeah, we'll talk a bit about this. One of the stories that I saw, I don't know if you saw, they're saying that experimental treatment may have just cured a three-year-old's cancer. Yeah. Big, big news, especially with the, so it's not all bad, you know?
Starting point is 00:03:16 No, maybe as the economy implodes and we go back to the Stone Age, we'll remember that we briefly cured cancer. The Stone Age, but without cancer. Without cancer, right. Well, without the means to produce the treatments, we'll have known we did it. Details, these are details. We got the boys hanging out.
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Starting point is 00:03:41 Undercover MAGA. If you can go to Walgreens and not going to cost. It's the boogee MAGA hat. It's only the insiders. Spoke maga. It's like when I wear my cry, camouflage pants. Only the insiders know that they're actually cool guy pants. So, Carter. I'm doing my Dragon Ballsy haircut again.
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Starting point is 00:05:36 It's freaking me out. It's freaking me out. We'll talk more about it. I just had to get that off my chest. Here's the news. Sidney Sweeney loses more than 200,000 Instagram followers amid growing backlash over her nude sports betting ad. Okay, well, here's the video.
Starting point is 00:05:57 It's awesome. Think you know sports? Prove it. No big is. Just sports. So they wanted to show. Just sports. You can trade this sport.
Starting point is 00:06:12 And this sport. How about this? This sport, too. Or this? Sports. Sports. Sports. Sports.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Sports. Sports. You can't trade this. I just look on here. No betting on wars or deaths. And no politics. Just you? Your takes on sports.
Starting point is 00:06:45 I don't think the intentions could be more overt. everybody gets it I wonder how much you think she got paid for this So she has equity in the company as a strategic partner and equity holder apparently Could you imagine
Starting point is 00:07:00 Like guys You know why the world is ending Because only fans hookers Can make $50 million a year On Only fans You know what I mean Like dudes We need AI now more than ever
Starting point is 00:07:16 We need AI why so that men can start getting this money back. We don't need to pay Sidney $50 million. We can make an AI woman who is naked in selling sports betting. Just think about that sentence real quick and just consider where we are as a society right now as this is the big story. Yeah, well, because this would have not been noteworthy at all 10, certainly, well, I made it 10 years ago, 15 years ago, certainly 20 years ago. I remember like Kate Upton would do stuff like this all the time. You go back before in the 90s.
Starting point is 00:07:47 I mean, this was super common. Sports Illustrator was literally sending out this kind of stuff all the time. And we refer to that period, I think it was Lindyman that dubbed it the vulgar wave, which was when a lot of these companies were marketing towards men and sort of masculinity in the maybe more raw sense, I guess, was the common accepted interpretation of masculinity and the culture, where now that's sort of shamed. So when we see stuff like this that once again would have been very common in 2005,
Starting point is 00:08:17 anyone about it and an eye. It is very shocking and that sort of thing. But, you know, some people are like, see, this is proof woke is dead. I'm like, the fact that it's such a big story shows that it's actually a really unique marketing approach. And the fact that it's a company that is already, you know, sports betting is not really considered a very, I mean, it's mainstream, but it's not considered a sort of acceptable form of doing business kind of like a magazine would be. So they're not trying to like, you know, keep their image clean. Their sports betting.
Starting point is 00:08:49 What are you going to do? Women are so mad about this, too. Thank you for supporting the objectification of women for the male gaze. You know, remember that viral article where it was like cat calling is wrong and then it was like three years later, the same woman was like men don't cat call me anymore and I'm sad. Yeah. Yeah. Look, I mean, there are some women that just want to complain. I personally, yes, some, not all.
Starting point is 00:09:14 maybe even a majority, but still. Look, this kind of stuff, I've been, like, when I go on PCC and we talk about, you know, the woke stuff or the, the advertisements that are coming out, it is, in my opinion, even though there are people that take objection to, you know, the racy nature of this kind of thing, it's my opinion that advertising being aspirational again, right, is a good thing. I think that having attractive people. in your advertisement is good because you want people to look at your product and say, I want to feel good when I look at this and when I look or when I, when I purchase this product, people want to see themselves in the product. They look at an attractive model, whether it be a female or a male. I was so done with the Calvin Klein ads with the androgynous fat people,
Starting point is 00:10:10 with Nike's advertisements that had overweight people. You've got just unattractive people. And for so many years, you had just unattractive and also unhealthy people in advertisements. And I think it's a good thing that we have started, at least some companies have started to move away from that. I think that it's the sign of a healthier society. Yeah, we were just talking about that earlier. Nike's taken off the, they've lost all this market share. People are buying their products because they were exactly the opposite of what you're talking about, right?
Starting point is 00:10:44 I mean, they're a fitness company. You should be putting people who you aspire to be like, not somebody who looks like you, right? Or not you, I mean, the average person. You know the old conspiracy theory is that I think the big start of the body positivity was Dove, the real beauty campaign 10 years ago. The thing is they were owned by Unilever, who also owned Ben and Jerry's. So when you think about the consolidation of products and corporation,
Starting point is 00:11:12 you've got an executive being like, why are we advertising these women that are aspirational, but selling women ice cream? They're not going to buy one or the other, you know what I mean? We got it. It's good to be fed.
Starting point is 00:11:27 Eat the Ben and Jerry's all day and night. We're proud of you. I mean, there may be substance to that, but I tell you what, ice cream sells itself. Yeah, 100%. And that's going to sell itself, right? I mean, everybody now knows whatever that company,
Starting point is 00:11:40 I can't remember, whatever was called, everybody knows that name now. Yeah. And, you know, people who weren't watching before weren't on sports betting apps are not. Damn real better be out of now. And we are going to see like the fat, I mean, we're already seeing it as the fat acceptance thing on the way out. And companies aren't going to approach it anymore because GLP ones have basically like cured obesity. I mean, like obviously there's like, you know, people debate the side effects or whatever. But, you know, like if you just look at it from face value, it's kind of optional to be like obese now. So there's not really a need for the fat acceptance movie. It was always optional. And true. But, you know, a lot of people. people, even if it was, we're unable to. The exercise is optional now. Yeah, where now, yeah, if you're like morbidly obese, it's really like why. Like, why are you still allowing yourself being morbidly obese?
Starting point is 00:12:25 So I guess what I'm trying to get at here is, you know, as it becomes optional and like the main faces, the very large faces of the fat acceptance movement are now slim. Very large faces. Yeah. They are very small faces. They don't have, they lost their quarterbacks. They lost their last. They lost their linebackers.
Starting point is 00:12:43 That's not true. I don't want to say the wrong female pop star, but there's like a morbidly obese female pop star now. You know what I'm talking about? Well, Lizzo slimmed down. No, no, no. There's a, I don't want to say the wrong one. Do you know what I'm talking about?
Starting point is 00:12:55 I hope it's, is it that one that keeps going like viral for that weird performance on a... I don't know. All I know is there's a pop star woman and she got real fat. And everyone's like, man, she got real fat. Oh, yes. I know who you're talking about. I don't want to say the wrong name, though. I think it was Natalie and Brulia.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Oh, no, no, no. No, no, she's thin. And not anymore. Are you joking? I don't know who that is. I don't know who that is. No, she's thin as thin can be, bro. Is she?
Starting point is 00:13:21 Yeah. Who is it then? Look. She's thin. I'm like, you can't call her fat. No, I'm thinking of a different song. The fat singer you're talking about. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Let me see if it's... Nelly Furtado. That's who it was. That's who it was, right? I can pick her on my... My girlfriend just texted me that, so thank you, Sarah. See, see, because I was going to say the wrong name. I was going to say Demi Lovato.
Starting point is 00:13:47 Nellie Furtado. And she's not, doctor, I need help. Is it bad to be fat? From a health perspective? Yes. Yes, 100%. That was a very tough question. Trust the science.
Starting point is 00:13:59 That was a tough question. Yeah, follow science. It's also bad from a fitting in an airplane seat perspective as well. Yeah. But I mean, the fact that people, I mean, whether you're using GLP ones or just living a more healthy lifestyle. The fact that people are trying to no longer be overweight is an unabashed good for society. 100% for everybody, not just for them for society. Like you said, yeah, it's good for everybody. I'm torn on this Novick stuff because on the one hand, naked Sydney,
Starting point is 00:14:28 naked Sidney, you know what I mean? But like on the other hand, sports betting. Well, that's the reason that they're going forward with this, because they're, they're targeting a very narrow demographic, which is like young men who are kind of chuds in some way. Um, like, like, If you're sports betting, you're just kind of a bonehead, to be completely honest with you, because the odds are so stacked against you. At least there's like some decorum and going to the casino, right? There's a house edge that's like, you know, four or five. Free drinks?
Starting point is 00:14:53 Four or five points. Spreading, Saga and Jetty has done like pretty. He's articulated the dangers of it very well. I mean, it is like you're guaranteed to lose money. And when you start performing well as a sports bet, they just take your account away. I actually think it's very easy to be. successful prediction market or sports better, but they just ban you. Yeah. Well, and prediction markets are like slightly different, but like sports betting insofar as, hey, the house is presenting you the
Starting point is 00:15:21 odds you're allowed to bet on. Like it's kind of crazy. The, just the proposition is crazy to think about where at least with the betting market, they're kind of just facilitating the trades. It's still, you know, debate to be had there, but the sports betting is just ridiculous and you're guaranteed to lose money. So the people that they're targeting are, this is going to move the needle for them. Not that I'm necessarily upset about it. I'm just trying to say that it shouldn't be shocking that a sports betting company is like, yeah, we're going to put a naked woman on there. The other possibility is they planted that story too, right?
Starting point is 00:15:49 They could have been a plant. This whole thing could have been like a marketing scheme from the beginning. Oh, they absolutely knew it was going to be provocative. Yeah, but I mean the fact that she lost 200,000 followers and all that, they could have been like, I mean, who knows if she lost a thousand followers. Well, and they wanted to be, because like it's not like Walgreens is going to run this ad, right? Like it has to be a company on the edge. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:06 They need to be able to shoulder the provocativeness. 100%. I can't help. And I know people don't want to hear it, but I can't help but feel like we're in the sewer right now. Sports betting, fake news, algebra is not real. We are surrounded by refuse in all directions. Rome is on fire.
Starting point is 00:16:28 Indeed. And that's it. And I hate to bring it to this conversation over and over again, but it really does swim around the AI issue. Remember we having a conversation. Actually, I'm going to be a little bit more vague. There's been a lot of conversation that in the next couple of years, there's going to be a massive explosion of halves and have-nots.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Working class people who own very little but still own will have nothing. You will own nothing and you'll be happy, they say. Those who own now will own forever. And that's because of AI. So if you think about what happens to a. society when every car is owned by like one company. Uber. Uber is going to own a fleet of self-driving cars. Cybercab. So you, the regular person, won't have a car anymore. Shareholders in Tesla will. They'll own those fleets that you pay for. So there will be people who get money through what they
Starting point is 00:17:26 own and there'll be people who have nothing. But I'm going to stress this too about the sports betting. The reason why I think the prediction betting, sports betting stuff is getting so big and casinos are popping up everywhere. I think the people in government know, and this conversation's come up, when you eliminate white collar work, what do you have to occupy the time in mind of an individual? So, guys, track the casinos being built right now, and you will, you will, I was talking to a guy other day, and he's an older guy. And, uh, something like casinos came up and he's had something like, yeah, but, you know, usually if you're playing at a casino, it's like only in special places, right? And I was like, no, they're everywhere. And he's like, really? It's like, yeah, we got one down the street from my studio. And he said, is that a reservation? He said, no. It's just West Virginia. We've got, let's see, we've got three. You got horseshoe, MGM, Maryland Live to the east. If you drive a little bit further north, you'll get to Delaware racetrack and casino, it's another like hour.
Starting point is 00:18:33 You've got Hollywood Paraville. That's five. Then you, we'll remove the Delaware one for now and just say we've got four. But then you've got Rocky Gap. That's five. I think Maryland has five casinos. And you can drive to any one of them within two hours of each other. But then if you add Delaware, then you can add York and Harrisburg.
Starting point is 00:18:50 You've now got eight. Then you've got Charlestown, nine. Then you've got, if you want to expand your range to like three hours, you're going to have probably like 12 casinos within this area right now. Then you go three and a half hours, you're in Atlantic City. It's just exactly what I was saying before. Rome is burning, right? It's the moral decline in society, and you've got to give people something to do. So you have the gladiators instead of the gladiors.
Starting point is 00:19:15 People aren't killing each other for sport. But we're talking about Sidney-Sweeney being naked and gambling and betting and betting on sports betting and going to the casino and watching football games. I think our society's become because we're so. Well, this is my prediction. We had the rise of the information to, economy with the dot com era. Then we got social media era, which has been the past 10 or so years, which is the attention economy.
Starting point is 00:19:43 People started making videos and if you could get the eyeballs, you were making tons of money. It was no longer about information, right? Search engines were king. Now it's attention. Can you hold someone's attention for a long enough time? And this is where you get Tucker with the guy saying algebra is not real. It puts eyeballs on him or Canada saying self-of esteem. But she knows what she's doing.
Starting point is 00:20:04 She's a very smart person. And you get the Alex Jones saying, I want to box him pool. It's like, please just look at me so I can get money. The question is, what is that money going to be in the long term? And that's why I think we're in the sewer where, you know, I'll put it this way. I'm not saying this to start a fight with Alex Jones. Why would Alex make up a bunch of fake things about me claim I support Israel and then try to fight me? why would
Starting point is 00:20:31 Alex turn on a dime? We were having a conversation with a handful of guests. In the next few years, AI is going to eliminate most jobs. I mean, Zachary Levi was telling us on the show. His industry is being destroyed right now.
Starting point is 00:20:45 And he knows it. That's why he's largely been like, you know what, I can get political. It's kind of crazy. I mean, this dude was Shazam. He did two blockbuster movies. He's been successful TV shows.
Starting point is 00:20:56 This guy's had a massive career in Hollywood. And he goes, I'm going to get political. I'm going to get behind our K Jr. knowing it'd be bad for his career. And what do he say? Hollywood's over. AI is about to destroy it, so I need to get, you know, he's like, I need to do what I've got to do now. He's amazing. He's an awesome dude. I'm a big fan. He's a good guy. I think, I think the machine knows. And I think they expect the future to be, you wake up and work is like your AI automated
Starting point is 00:21:23 slop content producer for YouTube where bots from India watch the videos. And I think, and you get paid, and then you put that money into a sports prediction app, and the people who are wealthy are it's going to be good at predicting who wins sports. And, you know, it's just insane that we've come to a point where people are wagering money on whether or not I will do something, personally. Like, I just, I think the future's going to be really weird. You're not going to wake up, like, I got to, I'm going to change it. You are going to have to go to work, but work is going to be like, oh, I,
Starting point is 00:21:59 work for an AI prediction firm. It's like, oh, what do you do? Well, you know, I just got to sit there and, like, monitor the agents and make sure their predictions are lining up and getting executed properly. So, you know, it's 9 to 5, you know, like anybody else. I work hard every day. I like the idea of that being a hard work. But sure, but I mean, look where we are right now. Are we happy with the hard work we have? Well, I mean, go back to a farmer and his family and explain to him the world he's building will result in five guys sitting around talking about some naked chick and making tons of money doing it. And they're going to be like, that's absurd.
Starting point is 00:22:33 That shouldn't be allowed. Like, well, that's the world you're building. Well, I mean, look, there's still people that actually do have hard jobs and work hard in modern society. There are more jobs that are, you know, whether they're white collar jobs or entertainment jobs, there are more of those now than there were in history. But there's still a lot of people that work hard. Like people that are digging, you know, the sewer connections, people that are, you know, working oil rigs, people that are...
Starting point is 00:22:59 I think it's fair to say everybody works hard. I was watching this commie on Instagram and she was like, what do you mean you deserve the money because you worked hard? Grocery store workers work hard. Farmer like people picking
Starting point is 00:23:15 fruits and vegetables are working hard and I was like, no, I completely agree with it. You can work hard at anything. It doesn't guarantee you success or anything, but I do believe that even if technology comes changes things, people are still working hard. You're trying to solve problems. You're thinking as hard as you can and you're doing everything you can towards your job, whatever your job may be.
Starting point is 00:23:35 Again, go back 500 years and explain a supermarket to people and they're going to be like, that's not work. Like when I go out to work, my hands might rot and fall off, you know? It's like, we have safer work now. But everybody does work hard to a certain... Not literally everybody commies. They don't. You know what I mean? I think that it's probably true that like most jobs, like 20% of the people work hard and then 80% of the people kind of coast on their back. It's universal truism. Agreed.
Starting point is 00:24:02 But the world's always going to need, you know, ditch diggers, right? I'm kidding, but they're going to need electricians. They're going to need plumbers. The world is always going to need people to put up drywall. No. People with skills. Now, Elon's replacing all that. The optimist bot's going to do it.
Starting point is 00:24:16 Yeah, I actually agree. Like, it's probably not in the next couple years, but five to ten years. Until I see an optimist actually, autonomously doing things, then maybe I'll change my... They already have the prototypes that are doing like some private alpha stuff.
Starting point is 00:24:36 I'm only disagreeing because of how wrong I was about content. When a year ago I was like, man, in like three years, you're going to be able to... It's now. Yep. And I'm sitting here being like, it's over.
Starting point is 00:24:49 Like, I was saying this before the show, like maybe it's fine to say artificial general intelligence isn't here yet because you still have to supervise. Yep. But I actually would still argue artificial general intelligence is here
Starting point is 00:25:00 because we've eliminated the bottom, not the bottom, but we've eliminated a huge chunk of administrative and I don't know what the right word is. They haven't eliminated it yet. The AIs do have the capability, but there's still the adoption
Starting point is 00:25:16 and there's still people, or there's still, it's still neat people. The company still need, well, yeah, they have to adopt it. I was watching Fox today, and for the first time, my mind was blown, you know why? there were like seven commercials an hour that were for you for adopting AI there was one where it was
Starting point is 00:25:30 like it was like are you having like as a guys like you have trouble with it with HR your company use our company automated AI HR and I'm like here here we go the administrative stuff is being erased I saw I saw seven different commercials for various AIs to do administrative work so right now I know I've been talking about a bit but with the stuff I'm doing for for code development When I say it's tedious stuff, you still need a project manager with vision, but the entry-level position, you'd hire, like, some kid graduates college or whatever, and he's got a portfolio, and it's like, yeah, we need someone who's going to do the basic, you know, coding. That's not a job anymore.
Starting point is 00:26:12 Yeah. That is not a job anymore. Well, it's ironic. The only way that, like, the economy can survive this sort of compression would be sort of a conservative structure insofar as, okay, we need a way to have the population. declining and we need a way to ensure that we can basically reduce the amount of people looking for work, right? We need to reduce the size of the workforce. The obvious, and I'm not, this isn't even a joke. I mean, there's been far more intelligent people than me that have sort of
Starting point is 00:26:40 articulated this Nate Fisher over at Newfoundings, one of them. That it could bring forth sort of this conservative demand of, hey, we want to be able to provide for a family on a single income. That was the way that we used to have it and people were generally quite happy with that arrangement and that would solve a lot of these social problems that we're having. This can be a way to get to that. Again, it would require a bit of ushering. But if we can have a situation where, okay, the workforce is compressing and now we're having less jobs, that now means labor that still exists, the demand that still exists for labor should warrant higher salaries, which means the men that are working in these jobs should be getting higher salaries. There's less of a need
Starting point is 00:27:21 for additional managerial labor, administrative work, which typically goes to women, and this will just allow generally, like for example, a plumber. Like you said, well, you know, we're cutting out a lot of this administrative work. A plumber can now run a business basically by himself. Yeah, bro, bro. Hold on there, gosh darn minute. Whose house is the plumber going to service? Just customers. Which, who? Well, it's, we're not going to run out of people. The population is declining, but who, who owns how? Who owns how? houses. Well, I mean, landlords have to... 25% of Gen Z owns homes.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Yeah, but they're still renting. 25%. I'm being somewhat facetious. I mean, plumbing issues. There's going to be a reduction of this kind of labor just due to population collapse and a lack of ownership and an inability to even buy as the market collapses. Perhaps when we see, you know, like, look, when the boomers are at the mortality shelf right now and every day, it's like, We're watching boomers. It's a generation that's dying.
Starting point is 00:28:24 It's how it goes. It's not meant to be morbid. We are going to have a massive influx of homes with no buyers. And so houses are going to deflate. And when houses deflate, this means that even millennials and Gen X's own properties are going to see their net worth collapse if they relied on real estate for the net worth, which most people do. Correct. So what happens when there's a Gen Xer who owns a $300,000 house?
Starting point is 00:28:49 he's got maybe he used it as collateral for a small business. The housing market completely implodes because when boomers die, all those houses flood the market. Like boomers on average, I think have two houses. So not every boomer's house. 75% own homes and I think on average they have at least two. What happens when those houses all flood the market? They're going to inherit it by their kids, if they have kids, and they probably do. But those kids are going to try and sell them because they don't want to move there
Starting point is 00:29:18 and they're going to drop the prices down. Now that Gen Xer, who's got that collateral, the bank says, we're margin call. Your collateral no longer covers the loan we gave you and we're worried you're not going to pay it back now because the market's tanking. So I wonder when I see, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:31 Alex Jones and Tucker and Candace and all these people, I'm like, I think their basic strategy is it doesn't matter what people think about you when the system's on the verge of imploding. You need to extract as much of their labor as possible. Buy as much stuff as you can to sustain yourself when this all goes tits up. I mean,
Starting point is 00:29:50 there's like really like, there's these really like, doom or projections of what can happen, but like also on the, the counter would be like, let's say the worst case scenario, the worst birth rate in the world, Japan, people typically look at Japan.
Starting point is 00:30:02 Well, Japan's population 100 years ago was 60 million. And the worst case scenario, UN projections for Japan's population after this all bottoms out, 80 million, 85 million. So, I mean, again, like, what we're seeing here would just be a reduction of the population.
Starting point is 00:30:17 And that's Japan without immigration. They have zero immigration. So that's just like returning to what 80 million? Yeah, but it's an exponential collapse because after that 80 million, they don't have kids either. No, the reason, it's not exponential because there's still a, there's still a segment of the population that's children. Those values are inferred onto their children. And that population is the stop gap. So what that means is we can expect.
Starting point is 00:30:38 The baseline's not going to be 80 million. In Japan, yeah. There is not 80 million Japanese people who have big families and have those values of having big families. But it's different generations. So like... The expectation is, I think, Japan drops a 20 to something million. No, no, no, no. No, because there's about like 45 million excess, like 45 million people that were born
Starting point is 00:30:56 during the baby boom that were like outsized compared to previous generations that are in Japan right now. So that's how they get to that 80 million roughly. The point is every subsequent generation is not having kids at replacement rates. That's start in the 70s, though. And so why they can make these projections now. So, right. So the projection for Japan is not that in the next generation is going to be.
Starting point is 00:31:15 20 million. It's like in three or four generations, they're at 20 million. The baselines are like 80 million though, because even what the, like, it's not exponential because they're having like one kid, so you're just seeing the population have as each generation goes on. Eventually there's a stop gap because you have a certain proportion of the population that still maintains a certain fertility and then those values, genetics, et cetera. Traditionalism is going to win. And then in a couple generations, we see it turn around. Or it just flatlines because that's what Japan was at before, where Japan was basically hovering from 40 to 60 million. So liberalism's on the way out because they just, like the panda, can't reproduce to save their own species.
Starting point is 00:31:49 I don't of, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And so, like, you know, so, I mean, that is certainly a possibility that everything just does collapse. I mean, I don't know if the economy, the problem with, like, the problem with capitalism, this sounds like, sound like such a Columbia student.
Starting point is 00:32:02 The problem with capitalism broadly is that it is dependent on line go up. The way that we have structured our market in the United States is it is dependent on line go up. If the line goes down, in this case, population, it's tough to imagine how the economy reacts, but AI is this curveball, where for 30 years, 40, 50 years, economists have been pulling their hair out, like what happens when the boomers die? Well, AI provides an interesting, I don't know, Band-Aid, I think, quite frankly, a solution for the market. There's one thing that we haven't talked about when it comes to the, you know, the economic ramifications of AI.
Starting point is 00:32:34 So far, we haven't seen significant cutbacks in the labor force because of AI. There's been some, but there haven't been significant. What you're actually seeing, it means. It means. mirrors what has happened with other technologies being introduced to the market. You're having people stay working and they're just becoming more efficient. They're becoming more productive. So I don't know that I believe the situation is going to be where you have like a mass exodus of workers from companies. I think that like it happened during the industrial revolution or with computer with just
Starting point is 00:33:10 computers and personal computers in general, you see people doing. more with their time and becoming more productive. So whether or not that continues that trend, that obviously remains to be seen. But currently, we're not seeing a significant reduction in the workforce because of the implementation of AI. I think we're heading towards techno-communism. That's the plan. And communism is not really the right word for it.
Starting point is 00:33:38 Good news. The commies are trying to stop it. Yeah, yeah, that's right. You know, I'm not so sure. I think they just want to be in control of it, and that's what they're really mad about. I mean, this is, you know, it's not hyperbole. This is like, Klaus, what's his name? Swab.
Starting point is 00:33:54 Swab, thank you. I mean, it's in his playbook. He talks about the New World Order where you said it before, Tim, you're going to own nothing and be happy. I mean, that's a direct quote. Yeah. So I think that's the plan, whether that actually becomes reality. I don't know. I don't know that people are going to stand for that.
Starting point is 00:34:10 I mean, I think it's the old frog in the pot analogy, you know, you have slop. slowly turn up the heat and but I think people are starting to wise up to what the hell's going on. That's why they need to make sure that there is no, there doesn't need to be an FAA for AI, which is one of the things that the people are essentially, they're using that analogy. They need some kind of oversight committee or oversight bureau on the federal government to oversee AI. I want to, I want to make a point to what you're saying about people becoming more productive. I just, I have a question for you guys.
Starting point is 00:34:40 for what purpose do we need our five millionth Gen Z political influencer with surface level opinions on things? That's a good question. I don't know. I should be automated. I could be automated. The point is, you can find me on clock. When we start taking away a lot of these jobs
Starting point is 00:35:01 that occupied the minds and time of the average person, I'm not saying it should be this way, but it is this way. When you say, you know, we need someone to dig ditches, but we don't anymore because we have excavators and we have robots and we have AI, that person will now try to do something else. And so what's happening is you've got people who otherwise would have been delivering packages or driving cars. I am not saying that to disparage those jobs, those are noble and honorable professions that we need. But once those are automated, these people say, well, what do I do now?
Starting point is 00:35:32 So they look around and what are they all doing? They're trying to be influencers. This is not an increase in productivity. This is spastic desperation. 10,000 people who once had jobs freaking out being like, I don't know what to do anymore. Look at me. Algebra is fake. That is not increasing productivity.
Starting point is 00:35:50 No, I mean. And I'm going to stress this too. In response to the mass decentralization of social media, you get people like Tucker where he's like, you know what, let's bring the guy in and say algebra is fake. Why? What? Well, just that Tucker has been a, you know, an entertainer or a media person. My point is he needs to crank the volume up more and more and more because he's in a sea of screaming voices. He needs to scream louder.
Starting point is 00:36:20 Candace is the same. Alex Jones is the same. He's always been like that, though. Well, I disagree. I mean, Alex, you know, he sends me a voice memo where he's like, what are these people doing? Why are they doing it? What's happening to the right? And then seven months later, he's like, I'm going to join him.
Starting point is 00:36:37 And I think the reality is YouTube is going to turn into an AI sloth. App Channel, guaranteed 100%. We sit here in this room with professional lights. We spent hundreds of thousands of dollars building the studio out in a multi-million dollar building because I was like, let's invest our time, energy, and resources into being able to do a great show where we talk about important issues. And then what happens is some kid goes on YouTube, he clicks a button on a few different AI sites and auto generates 40 hours of content per day.
Starting point is 00:37:09 This is not exaggeration. Literally there are guys that do this. He now makes a million bucks a year doing a couple hours of work per day, clicking a button to automatically generate slop content. The slop content on its own doesn't get more views than I do. But there's 700 of these channels doing the same thing. And so if each of them is taking a few thousand views, it adds up and it rips watch time from everybody. They've now decentralized the revenue through YouTube, but here's the problem.
Starting point is 00:37:34 It costs nothing to make the slop. It costs a lot to make this show. So in the long run, as our revenue declines, and this is true for Fox News, we did the same thing to Fox News. The cost of making the show is cheaper than a studio. So as these shows progressed, those shows struggled to make money. Fortunately, they still make money off of boomers, like Jesse Waters is getting a couple million in the boomer demographic, but he's getting like a hundred thousand in the key demo. This is the end for cable TV news. A podcast can survive a little while longer because our margins are less, but I guarantee you in three years, a show.
Starting point is 00:38:08 Show like this with this level of production will not be possible. Because the amount of money you will make from a show like this compared to how much it costs to produce a slop show of the same type with the progression of AI technology, you will convince no one to work 80 hours a week to make minimum wage. You will have people who are like, every day I wake up and for eight hours, I end up getting a thousand views per day and I make like $70 per day generating 25 hours of slop content per day. and that's where we're headed. YouTube can't do anything about it. They have rules against slop, but as the technology improves, you are going to see fairly decent content.
Starting point is 00:38:48 YouTube will only be AI. Well, yeah, but I mean, and fair enough, I'm not trying to argue that, you know, there won't be changes to aid to YouTube or whatever. But like I said earlier, there hasn't been a corresponding shrinking of the job market to the introduction.
Starting point is 00:39:07 of a with the introduction of AI. There are firms that are using AI and becoming more productive. But you know, Astro and Fable just came out. So I'm, I am currently still using Seoul for some projects. Disaster. Yeah, well. I immediately stopped. Fair enough.
Starting point is 00:39:24 But, and like, that's why I said earlier, you know, we'll see in the future. But as of right now, the, the, the, all the indicators are that they're going to continue. No, no, that's completely incorrect. They're running commercials right now saying fire your staff. Yeah. They're running commercials. Just because they're running commercials saying that doesn't mean that people are going to do it. No, it means there's a market reaction where companies have already emerged and have been operation for a year plus that are now advertising on cable TV to fire your employees.
Starting point is 00:39:51 When I see the actual shrinking of the job market, when you see it in the numbers, then I'll go ahead and say, okay, actually, you're right. But as of right now, all the indicators are that they're not firing people because of AI. Incorrect. Maybe they will. Keep saying indicators. Yeah, the job numbers. So when we're talking about what will be indicative of future action, you're saying current statistics show that the job market is stable. Okay, so I use the wrong verbiage.
Starting point is 00:40:17 Okay. All of the evidence that we have right now is that they're not firing people. I agree. The job market is not shrinking. And as far as I can tell, there's no fire anywhere. Now, I know for a fact the garage burned down already and there is a fire over there. But as of right now, this room's not on fire. This is a bad analogy.
Starting point is 00:40:35 because there would have to be shrinking of the job market somewhere for the garage to have burned down. Right? So you're saying, I think the garage is going to burn down. But as of right now, there's not actually a fire. So have Hollywood studios been shutting down? I don't know. Yes, we talked about it on this show.
Starting point is 00:40:54 Again, this is, this is one. This is shrinkage and job market. This is, this is one specific thing. We're not saying the whole house burnt down. That's the garage. But I mean, you know, you could, any industry, right? I mean, video games, right? You used to take months to make a video game.
Starting point is 00:41:10 Teams of people make it pong. Years, right, years. Now you can do it in a weekend, right? You can make a pretty good game in a weekend, right? Is that necessary? So all those jobs have disappeared, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. It's people have become more efficient. They've become better at making them.
Starting point is 00:41:26 So we had a video game developer at this company. We didn't hire anybody after this because it didn't work out. I will never hire a video game developer again. in 12 hours I've gotten six months of video game development done and I actually don't even think it's fair for me to call it my own work
Starting point is 00:41:42 because all I did was set on my phone playing video games looking over at ChadGGBD periodically to make sure it was working so we have an arcade game that's done completely done in every imaginative conceivable way done ready to go ready to upload and now I've got a game that I would describe
Starting point is 00:41:58 as like it's a rogue like comparable to PS5 level graphics I don't know how you describe it modern game almost done. I'm just trying to... I could say the game is done right now, to be fair, but I want to make it crazy. This would never have existed,
Starting point is 00:42:13 and I'm not going to hire a developer for it, and it hasn't cost me a penny. Now explain, I have a subscription, a monthly subscription to Open AI, and the amount of usage that I have has not exceeded that $200 subscription. So for zero additional dollars
Starting point is 00:42:31 to what we already do with AI for graphic design. We are doing most of our graphics thumbnails design work is just instant AI. So there's a couple of jobs that are gone. But you're more efficient now, right? So I mean, again, you go back to the 70s when they were making Pong. It took the team of developers, as you said, years to make that game. Years. But is that necessarily a bad thing? Yes. The question is when Taco Bell automates taco production, we think, oh, but now they can make more tacos, right? who can afford to buy the tacos. The person working at Taco Bell is the person who walks across the street at the pet store
Starting point is 00:43:09 to buy, you know, a cat toy for his cat. When that person doesn't have a job anymore, they say, I need to get money from somewhere. So they start consolidating around what appear to be, like I think the reason we're seeing a massive explosion of desperate influencers is because there's no other way to apply being human. You say, I'm a low-skill labor, but they've largely automated my job. I guess I can shake my ass on Onlyfans. and that'll work for a while until AI automates that too.
Starting point is 00:43:36 You know, the sad thing about this whole discussion is, I mean, I'll tell you right now that AI is an incredible tool when used properly. The one industry that really hasn't taken a foot in where it should is medicine. Like it would have this huge impact on people's livelihoods, people's longevity, everything, but we don't use it. So let me just read. The center of job cuts are in tech software and IT services company areas in coding co-pilots, AI testing, in AI ops to shrink engineering QA support and junior development teams, Oracle, Amazon, meta, Microsoft Dell, and the big Indian outsources, TCS, ICONSI, have all cited AI as a reason for large 25 to 2026 cuts. Tech is also the sector where Challenger Gray in Christmas says AI is now
Starting point is 00:44:19 leading state is now the leading stated reason for U.S. layoff announcements. Finance banking and FinTech, bank office processing, compliance review, junior analyst work, transaction checking and customer support. City Group standard, standard chartered PayPal, Klarna, and others have tied headcount plans to AI tools. Junior roles that used to mean pull the data and draft the first memo are the ones shrinking first. All of this was predicted two years ago. I watched this mini doc about what these companies like Anthropic, Open AI were saying was going to happen. This was in the pipeline. They said the first thing that's going to happen is the job for the 22-year-old where they come in and they say, data entry here, draft a memo and send it out. Gone. Legal research. Gone.
Starting point is 00:45:05 So now the lawyers don't need those junior analysts to come in and be like, hey, I need you to search records. They finger snap and they've got them. Gone. The next, so there's a pyramid where they graph this out. Next will be the managers. The managers will be gone. So these entry level jobs are all ready gone. The question is, how many? So in 2025, we had 55. We had 55. 4,836 directly cited as AI job cuts. As of 2026 to July, 112,713 jobs cut related to AI. Since 2023, it's been 184,000. The biggest month so far on record has been May of 26, with 38,579. In August, it did drop to only a few thousand. And this, I think, is probably related to just the speed of the model adoption. With the release of Fable and Astra, I think we are going to see now
Starting point is 00:46:01 the eliminations of the entire graphic arts industry. It's not an exaggeration. Six months ago, getting a graphic done for a thumbnail on YouTube or a flyer, it was kind of eh. Today, my mind is blown. There's just no comparison. And I'm not saying it's better than people, but it's faster and cheaper than people. That's all that. matters. Think about like, you know, all these jobs for years have been moved over overseas. So we, you know, when you call about your TV not working or your refrigerator not working,
Starting point is 00:46:37 you're not calling, you're calling someone in India, right? That's been happening for years. That's something that I want AI to be, like to get to the, get to the point where I can talk to an AI and have an actually actually knows what it's talking about. Because if you're talking to an AI that actually solves your problem, it's much better than talking to someone from another country that barely speaks English or you can't understand or doesn't understand you. So, I mean, as far as call centers go, bring that change on.
Starting point is 00:47:04 100%. Yeah. I mean, your best case scenario really is because, like, these governments in the West that are just keeping the floodgates open on immigration, one of the main arguments that they're putting forward is, well, we need to backfill the loss of population. So I kind of go back to my initial point. It's like, that would be really the hope with AI is that it can allow the population to decline without putting serious pressure on the market. But then additionally, it's a good point.
Starting point is 00:47:29 And Philly brought up, too, is like it also can prevent offshoring from occurring, which is also valuable for a variety of reasons. One, it doesn't fork over American capital to our adversaries like China. There's a funny video where this agent guy's like, I'm going to have Astra make GTA 6. And it made this really crappy thing in a half an hour, which as bad as it was, was better than GTA3. So it's like
Starting point is 00:47:55 we can make probably GTA 3 in an hour right now I thought there was going to be like a year I was like man can you imagine like a year
Starting point is 00:48:06 you're going to be able to like oh tell the Astro rolled out we saw all this stuff about Astro my mind was blown I pulled it up and this is the first time I can say
Starting point is 00:48:15 with these AI models the reason why I say AGI is here is because the average person is not going to be as perceptive and fast as Astra is. That's all that matters. When if I put in a prompt for Astra, it's on call 24-7.
Starting point is 00:48:40 In fact, it never stops working. Never. Last night, I put in a scheduling prompt. Every 15 minutes, do a check and keep working and said, you got it. And so from 11 p.m. at the end of the show until 9 a.m., it was coding the game that I wanted. building levels, testing, doing play tests over and over again, while I slept. A human being cannot do that.
Starting point is 00:49:01 So by all means, again, even if the argument is there are coders that are better than Astra, are they going to work 24-7, never take a day off and require no money? There aren't coders that are better than Astra. There are people that can, there are people that are looking for a specific result and maybe Astra won't know exactly what they're looking for, but there aren't coders that are better than Astra. So to wrap it together and just to the main point, I think there's, reason why you see Tucker Carlson and the algebra stuff is because this, this market that we're in right now is being flooded with cheap, free content that consumes people's, there's only so many
Starting point is 00:49:37 hours in the day for people to watch content, and with people losing jobs or not being able to get them. The important thing to understand is young people are unable to get hired. So one of the things that, it's funny, I asked Grock about this. It's not just about layoffs. It's about, what did they say the, the purpose for, oh, I got a new thing popped up, backfilling. They're not even bringing on new people as old people go out because the jobs just don't exist anymore. What are young people going to do? Welfare? Communism. Well, that's the, honestly, there are young people that, that's what their hope is, right? The people that are like, we want a fully automated luxury communism.
Starting point is 00:50:18 Well, this is why, like, I come in again with, like, the optimism where it can just, again, Against the conservatives, you know, the conservatives have been fighting against winning here, but like it could quite literally, victory could fall in their lap. And so far as compression returns to single income providing for the entire household, and that kind of gives us the off ramp for women working, because women working and providing an income is like decimated the society. I do think there will be some kind of UBI somehow implemented. It's either UBI, yeah, it's either UBI or incentives for the government, basically,
Starting point is 00:50:50 ensuring that wages stay higher than they probably realistically should. Doesn't UBI just turn into rise in prices, though? Yes, but the problem is when you eliminate 25% of jobs in a year, you're going to have a ton of people throwing bricks and and multiple if they can't get food. Well, we functionally have UBI with like unemployment and and welfare broadly. That's not the same thing. It's not the same thing, but we're not going to have, no one's going to starve to death in this country. when you have like a fifth of our economy is health care administration. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:26 Right. Is that, is that, is that? So those jobs can be automated right now. 100%. 90% of it should be, to be honest with you.
Starting point is 00:51:32 Yeah. So what are those people going to do for access to the economy? Are they going to just be like, guess I don't eat? Now what happens if every single one of them gets on welfare? Who's going to pay for that? Yeah, that's a big problem. I don't, I don't know that the people that are throwing bricks are doing it because they don't have gainful employment.
Starting point is 00:51:49 You look at the people that are actually up. No, it's food. talking about. Well, okay. So, so one of the factors in every revolution you track is when the cost of food is too high or the average person has no access to food. That's obvious. If people can't eat, they go nuts. Yeah. So if you took a fifth of the U.S. economy, a fifth, and all those jobs got automated because it's administration, it's, it's data entry, it's, it's phone calls. A.I. Can do all of that now. But there's two things here is a lot of those, the majority of those jobs are women. And secondarily, this gives the government incentive to halt immigration and conduct mass deportations is because you free up jobs, right?
Starting point is 00:52:26 You take pressure off of the labor market if you reduce the amount of people in the labor market. And that allows, as the population declines, if the population is declining while the available jobs also declines, we can get out of this in one piece. But if we continue to have, if we continue to have, like let's say Trump's out of office and a Democrat comes in and they just open it up again, we're cooked. population decline also means a decline in the quality of life. So the question is, as we deport people and jobs are declining and the value of houses are going down, if less people are producing goods, the prices will go up for the goods that you want. To put it simply, the reason why we can buy a widescreen, high-deaf TV for $300 right now is because of the size of population, because many hands makes light work. As population shrinks, you have less specialist.
Starting point is 00:53:17 and that makes it harder to develop. And, you know, if you take a look at the, like, the colonial period of how long it took to go from muskets to cartridges, even. But that's why the argument is AI buttresses are standard of living. So even as the population declines, even as the job market retracts, AI is ensuring that our quality of our standard of living, et cetera, does not fall off a cliff. But the challenge, then, is connecting it to the market. So a person who doesn't have a job anymore needs a way to get money to buy things to create that that trade, even between AI.
Starting point is 00:53:53 So if Elon creates, you know, Tesla Bell and it's a bunch of, actually there's a Tesla restaurant, but let's say he makes Taco Tesla and there's a whole bunch of fully automated taco shops. Who's going to be able to make money to buy from the taco shop, but then have a job? So then we got to think about, is why Elon said UBI, because there's no other, like, I don't say there's no other way, but the idea is how do these people who can, can't do any meaningful work, be the customers you need to sustain this automated business. Well, there's two things there. One, let's look at the middle class. Okay, the majority of the jobs, the first jobs on the chopping block, again, are jobs that are dominated by women. So it's going to create a direct incentive to get married.
Starting point is 00:54:34 It's going to create a direct incentive to get married. And then the males, the jobs that are least likely to be automated are dominated by men, again, that creates an insurance that you're not going to starve to death. You get married and then a single income can provide for the family. The lower class, the people working at Taco Bell or whatever, that's where it gets a little bit more dodgy. And then that's where potentially, yeah, Jordan Peterson was talking about this 10 years ago to his credit as he was saying, what do you do with those people? I mean, as the economy gets more complex, what do they do? And that's where it's a bit more unclear.
Starting point is 00:55:06 He brought up the military and people with an IQ of 85 and below can't get in the military. because they can't do anything that they won't screw up essentially. Like if you have it, if you, there is a, there is a floor to where, or, you know, I guess maybe it's a floor either way. The point is if you have a person that isn't smart enough to do the basic job, what do you do with them? You know, and those people actually tend to be the ones that are prone to violence because they understand enough about the world to kind of go out and function in it, but they don't have long-term thinking and they don't have the skills.
Starting point is 00:55:39 Yeah. Well, let's, let's think about that. Right. And they can't be given the skill set either. That's the major problem. It's like, it's one thing to be like, oh, this person doesn't know what to do at their life. But they, you know, they've got a 95 on her IQ. It's totally different. You've got someone that cannot be made smarter. And now what happens when you increase that window from right now, it's like everyone under 80 can't really have a job and make it. But now we're going to scale that to everyone under 100. Well, that's true. But the proclivity towards violence is, is around the 85. It's not. Not if you don't have food. Like the country, like the nation of Tunisia. may not have a, like an average of 100, but the country itself falls apart when the average person can't eat. So yeah, if you're talking about like, a whole entire society falling apart, that's one thing.
Starting point is 00:56:25 So Tim, you're foreseeing basically AI slash robots, whatever you want to call it, taking over every job? I don't know about every single, at some point in future for sure. Right now, I'll put it like this. There's no reason for music production anymore. If you had a company that had a bunch of employees, you even had employees who are gophers. You had minimum wage interns who got coffee.
Starting point is 00:56:46 Don't need them anymore. Why? Well, because you don't need a shuno will auto-generate anything you want. And if you want to go in full production mode, it's not even about that you can go in Suno and say, make a song. It's that you can pull stems. And you can be like, I want stems in this style. And you can, one person now can snap their fingers and have the song they want. So unlike the horse and buggy analogy, you're saying that this is just so systemic, that's the problem.
Starting point is 00:57:08 is that you're going to lose in the next five years say we're going to lose 75% of our jobs? I don't know about five years or 70 years, whatever. I don't know about 10 years either. What I can say is my prediction for the speed of AI was wrong. I was like, oh, in two years as I happened, it happened two weeks ago. I'm just like, wow, okay. Like, we already have AI commercials. So the people used to hire to do CGI who used to film.
Starting point is 00:57:36 I did a film shoot. But I got hired 10 years ago. I got hired. I got paid five grand to do a film shoot for a dude. It was a news production thing. Don't need it anymore. That job doesn't exist. So a lot of the work, too, is contract work. This stuff is gone. Now, you don't need to eliminate 75% of jobs to make the world fall apart. You only need to eliminate 7% of jobs in a year and see what happens. To your point, Spencer Proud almost won an election with all of his ads being completely ad generated. Yeah. I mean, that was pretty impressive.
Starting point is 00:58:09 Let's because the message was good, too. It's a bit dumerous, but let's get back to some of the modern news. We've got this tweet from Brian Allen. Breaking every scheduled opening act on Ed Shearin's loop tour has now withdrawn after McElmore was dropped over his pro-Palestine remarks. Aaron Rowe, Lucas Graham, and Phineas have all pulled out, while Shearin's touring band Bioga has also quit. That's over.
Starting point is 00:58:33 That's it. Yeah, the tour's done. Shearin's got no band. each cited solidarity with macklemore Palestinians or opposition to artists being silenced there it is my friends so what i was saying a year ago and i you know i'm going to apologize again because my timelines are just off i'm just really bad at this i said in you know i said in 10 years Israel's got no support the right does not want to be involved in middle eastern conflict and the left hates israel and then there's some people on the right to wait Israel too so i don't see how Israel is going to have
Starting point is 00:59:04 any funding or support from the United States. I didn't think it was going to be this quick. Everything's going faster than I thought. So should I buy a bunker now? It's kind of remarkable to see how quickly it collapsed. You know, there was a few anons that at the outset of the Iran war, we're saying Israel's public appearance is actually going to improve because, you know, they're going to fight alongside the U.S. and it's going to be like, we're in this together. Really freezing cold take because we're, I think it's interesting. This last week, I think, is where it's really, it's really gotten creative. crazy because of the whole response to this Beau French tweet. And you know, you have like guys
Starting point is 00:59:39 like Ben Shapiro or, or various other guys who are, you know, very pro-Israel. And they're coming out and they're like attacking Bo French. But then they'll also attack like, you know. What was the, for context, what was the original Bo French tweet or what did he, what did he actually say that got people all up in arms? There was a picture from the University of Texas when they beat Ohio State and it was a snapshot of the audience going crazy or whatever. And it was like 90% Indians in the crowd. And he was basically saying quite rudely, but I think it's kind of Trumpian to be like,
Starting point is 01:00:12 here's the issue. I'm going to deliver it in a really rude way to get it into the Zite guys. He was saying, basic, I don't remember the specific tweet, but paraphrasing, you know, look how, like, look how quick the demographic change has been in Texas.
Starting point is 01:00:24 And what he's getting at is something that a lot of Texans are, like, discussing quite a bit, is that the DFW suburbs, specifically are very Indian now. The universities are very Indian now. And so, yeah, I guess what I was trying to get at is the reason why I think people, like at mainstream MAGA are starting to get really frustrated with, and I'm not using this necessarily as pejorative, just as a descriptor here, are getting really frustrated at the more like ardent Zionist people in the movement is because they bring the knives out for, you know, guys like Mahmood Khalil, which is like, fine, I agree, you should be deported. But then when it comes to Indian immigration, other immigrant groups, all of a sudden, they're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, hang on, why are you being so mean? Why are you being so mean? being so rude and everyone's like, why aren't we keeping the same aggression and vulgarity here?
Starting point is 01:01:07 Yeah. And people get very frustrated by that. They see it as like a dual- particularly when it's a Jewish person and everyone knows that Israel is a primarily a Jewish state. And so the argument is it's okay for you to have an ethno nation in Israel, but it's not okay in the U.S. And I am sympathetic to the idea that, look, the U.S. is not the same thing as Israel. So the idea that they're, that they're, you know, that you're, that you're, that you know, that you're comparing apples to apples is wrong. Israel is a different entity from what the United States is. But it does speak to kind of a bit of hypocrisy when, when Jews are saying, oh, you know, Jews in the U.S. are saying, well, you know, you can't, you can't exclude people based on, on race. And yet at the same time, these people oftentimes, if they're not dual citizens, they're at least, you know, they have family in Israel.
Starting point is 01:01:59 they go to Israel and they're very vocal about Israel needs to stay a Jewish state. Yeah, yeah. You know, what's interesting is all these guys are protesting because McElmore got pulled off, right? Yeah. Where would all the protests when Ben Shapiro was being protested on campus? Or Jordan Peterson, right? He couldn't go speak. Nobody cared.
Starting point is 01:02:21 No, no, no. Because they're not pro-free speech. They're pro-Palestine. Well, no, no, exactly. It's just the hypocrisy. I don't think it's hypocrisy. It said they were, the article was they were mad because they were protesting the fact that he got pulled off from, they didn't like, people, people who is within their moral framework to lie to steal power who explicitly stay they don't want free speech. They're doing exactly as they believe. Oh, 100%. Yeah. That article said they were protesting the fact that they wanted, that they believed that they were infringing on Malcolm Moore's free speech. Yeah, but I'm saying they're lying. Oh, yeah. So they lie. We know they lie. Hypocrats in that regard. Yeah. Yeah. But it's hypocrites. It's hypocrites. on the surface to those who don't know who these people are.
Starting point is 01:03:00 100%. Yeah. You know, it's, it's, and it's hard to call it hypocrisy because if you don't know anything about it, you've never seen them say free speech is bad. Right. So we know their intentions. Hey, look, we got AOC. She's here.
Starting point is 01:03:13 Hey, if Ed Sheeran comes on the radio while you're driving along, are you changing the channels? I am. You are? Yeah. Why is that? I think that, um, what we've seen, especially, it's not, it's not just, what has happened with the act and not just in removing McElmore from the lineup, but when you see what Robert Kraft did to line up all of the stadiums to censor speech in that one
Starting point is 01:03:41 specific way, it's become clear that this is not just about one music artist or two music artists, but this is about how just a handful of stadium owners and the elite can prevent an entire massive issue. In this case, the genocide in Gaza, but it doesn't stop there. It could be speaking out about AI. It could be speaking out about any issue that you can now just get a handful of stadium owners to ensure that an entire person's career can be jeopardized if they speak out about any issue.
Starting point is 01:04:19 The supporting act is dropped out. I'm inspired. All of that is all of that is BS, okay? Right. So as a guy that's been on, you know, been touring for 25 years, I've played shows with a boatload of bands. When you're a support act, you are doing what the headliner says. If you want to speak about politics from stage, go headline your own tour. You know, that's your prerogative.
Starting point is 01:04:47 And that's, so it's not about free speech. When you, like, when we go on tour with someone, if we're a support act, we treat it like we're being invited into their home. It's their stage. We get on stage when they say. We get off stage when they say. It doesn't matter if we haven't played all the songs. If we had technical difficulties and we have one more song left, our time's up.
Starting point is 01:05:04 Our time's up. Get out of here. And that's all there is to it. You treat the headliners as if you're going, you're a guest because that's what you are. I'm inspired by AOC because you made me realize something. She doesn't know what she's talking about. She doesn't care either.
Starting point is 01:05:21 None of these people do. and I and one more thing no I'm just going to start making nicotine pouches you know it's like what am I doing here preaching to the choir while people like her
Starting point is 01:05:35 just lie you know for political power there's easier ways to make money addictive substances and I don't got to work I can sit around all day in the nice fall weather and I think what's interesting
Starting point is 01:05:48 with fingerboards what's interesting with this story though is like again five years ago you would have seen certainly the conservative commentariat, but even a lot of conservative, like, politicians, going to the mat for Robert Kraft, you know, attacking McClum or whatever. But I think people are a lot more hesitant now because it's kind of viewed as like,
Starting point is 01:06:06 okay, he has a take on like an ethnic blood feud in the other side of the world. It's like, has nothing to do with us. Nothing to do with the United States. Out of all these hyper left wing performers that like headline these stadiums all the time, they don't get canceled. It's like I'm far more disturbed by like what I'm here. hearing a lot of rap music and they're permitted to perform at stadiums all the time. So I'm like, that's far more threatening to me than like, again, he has a take on palat. I don't like agree
Starting point is 01:06:31 with Mac I don't know what Maclemore's politics are. I don't really care. Like if he has this take on the Israel-Palestine conflict, it's like immaterial to me. So, you know, why, why am I going to go to the mat on Robert Kraft's feud with Macalmore? It's like this has zero to do with me. To that American. To that point, as far as this particular issue goes when it comes to you know, McElmore being dropped. The fact that Robert Kraft got involved and was going at, and it was multiple stadiums were saying, we don't want him on this.
Starting point is 01:07:00 That, I can see why people consider that a problem because it's not Ed Shereen that was saying, or Ed Sharon or whatever his name is, however you pronounce it, my bad. It's not him that was saying, oh, you're off the tour. It was the, but, okay, do people understand the severity of Ed Shearant's backing band quitting for no reason. Oh, that's a big deal. But a big deal, this is one of the biggest cancellations that has
Starting point is 01:07:27 ever happened in cancel culture history. It's like tens of millions of dollars, hundreds of millions. Probably hundreds of millions. I think what did Taylor Swift do? What was it? Like a billion dollars in revenue for a tour? And she was one of the last guys that can pack a stadium. Exactly. His band is gone. There's no tour. Over nothing.
Starting point is 01:07:42 Over literal nothing. One artist was removed for a tour for being political at an entertainment show. They all panicked and pulled out. We have never seen anything on this scale of cancel culture. But it's just remarkable because it's like if, like if there were an artist and he was doing a tour and he was super pro-Argentine and he was like antagonizing the United Kingdom and he was saying the Falklands should go back to Argentina or whatever, I don't think any stadium owners
Starting point is 01:08:12 would be like, you know, canceling his show or whatever. But it's like, it's like, but when it pertains to this issue all of a sudden now let's, you know, let's throw this guy off the tour. Like, I stoop AOC, retarded takes, et cetera. I'm there. Like, the leftists are jumping on it for entirely different reasons. But, like, we take the 100-foot view here. It's like, what? Like, who cares?
Starting point is 01:08:32 Like, who cares what McEl-Mor's take is on geopolit? Well, but, I mean, to that point, that's true. But you could say something about Robert Kraft. It offended him. He owns the stadium. So why can't he exercise his right to say, I don't want that guy at my stadium? I mean, legally he has the right to, but I guess what we're debating here is, like, it's like a culture-word topic.
Starting point is 01:08:48 So it's like, legally sure. I mean, you can make the argument that, like, okay, okay, well, the government paid for all the infrastructure, but that's like in the weeds. I guess what we're arguing here is like the culture, like is this should be this permitted culture. I get that part. I'm just saying like from, you know, and back to the free speech issue, it's, it's, it's so obviously blatantly not free speech issue.
Starting point is 01:09:04 And it's, it's, um, people have this, this fantasy that, you know, that you can have free speech at work, right? You don't have free speech at work. To your point. Like if you're, if you're, Colin Kaepernick, he would, you know, exercise, quote, exercising his freedom of speech. He doesn't have freedom of speech. He works for an organization.
Starting point is 01:09:25 When you're at work, I can't put a, I can't wear a MAGA hat to work, the emergency room. I work for a hospital. I work for a group. I represent the group. I don't have free speech at work. And I think people need to understand that. That's not something that you have free speech when you're in your own house and whatever, but not when you're at work.
Starting point is 01:09:44 A couple years back, we were on tour with Megadeth, and I was wearing a shirt that said anti-communist, right? And generally, I'm familiar with. with the headliner, with Megadet's politics, or at least with Dave's politics. And I didn't think it would be an issue. And it wasn't. But had Dave seen me and said, hey, you know, I don't think you should be wearing that.
Starting point is 01:10:04 I'd have taken it off and been like, okay, my bad. You know, just, okay, this is your show. Yeah, he's the boss. He's the guy that's running the show. I'm here supporting him. I'm a guest. I'm not going to do things that step on his toes. I'm not going to do things from stage that he doesn't like.
Starting point is 01:10:18 Now, there is an argument that, like, look, if you are going to go on tour with rage against the machine, you know what you're getting into. If you're going to make an offer to rage against the machine to be on your show, you know what you're getting. They are. Yeah, he's got a pro-communism, a pro-Mao. Oh, yeah, they're all very, very, very, very far left kind of dudes. And everyone knows that. So you know, you're getting into the, you know, getting into it.
Starting point is 01:10:45 But a guy like McElmore as a pop star, right, like he's not particularly politically political in his music. He's saying the things that he's saying largely not because he's and I can't speak for him personally, but I imagine he's not super political in general. It's just that this is the issue of the day. Just like when Black Lives Matter was the issue of the day. It's kind of the omni cause, right? It's right now it's is black. It's, it's, it's free, Palestine. Prior to this, it was Black Lives Matter. There was a while when it was, you know, global warming and stuff. These are all the big issues
Starting point is 01:11:22 that you have to have the right takes on. Right now it's Palestine. I guess my problem here is like Gillette Stadium, I saw someone put it on Twitter. I mean, they've hosted Taylor Swift, Green Day, which is like one of the most leftist big artists that can sell to stadium left. Jay-Z.
Starting point is 01:11:37 Why are they allowed to perform? Like no questions asked, but if you're, if you have the wrong take on Israel, suddenly you get tossed off the, off the, you know, off the stage. And it's like, I certainly agree. Craft can throw out whoever. he wants. It's his stadium. His name, you know, his names everywhere. That's, I'm not arguing about his right to do it, but like, again, if we're arguing about like the cultural issue at play
Starting point is 01:11:57 here, my question is like, why is there like an Israel loyalty test to perform at a stadium now? That's what I'm saying. That seems a bit crazy. Yeah. Again, right now it doesn't affect us as Brueingers because it's Maclemore, but eventually that can affect. No, but the issue is if somebody said they wanted to come on Timcast, IRL, and then I was like, yeah, for sure, like, you know, we talk daily news and go, no, no, no, I want to do like, like, five minutes just talking about Palestine. And I, I, I, so we've had people reach out and they'll be like, hey, I really want to talk about this thing. And I go, well, it's a topical news show. Like, I don't care what you talk about, but if the news of the day is not what you're talking about, that's
Starting point is 01:12:32 probably better suited for the culture war or like, you know, now with the Tim Pool show. And if someone's like, no, I want you to give me five minutes so I can just go on and talk about Palestinian genocide, I'd be like, no. No, but what I'm saying here is it's an issue that's like has nothing to do with Americans. So that's why it's stupid to have a loyalty test over that. But I'm saying it's not a reason that if he was coming on. It's not a loyalty test. It is. A promoter being like, dude, don't do protests set at my venue. No, but the problem that he has with McElmore is his, again, which it's whatever. It's, it's his take, but like, it is his like stance on this very specific issue. My point is if McElmore said he wanted to
Starting point is 01:13:10 preach the clan, I wouldn't call it an anti-clan loyalty test. I'd say he doesn't want the politics at his venue. Right. No, but I don't think Macklemore's bringing the, like, he's not going up there on the stump to talk about Palestine. No, but apparently that's what he did. He had a big sign on the stage and he was talking about it. Yeah, it was like his whole performance. Yeah, but what I'm saying is, it's an issue that has nothing to do
Starting point is 01:13:30 with the United States. Again, like if they had a stance on, you know, the British, no one would care. I, I, my point is a business promoter who's like, hey, that's bad for business, don't do it. Yeah, but why is it bad for business? Why is it? Because half the people in this country like it and half the people don't. That's not true at this point. I mean, you open a segment up with it.
Starting point is 01:13:48 Boomers. It is 54% anti-Israel right now, according to the polls. Yeah, but that's mostly boomers. When you go from Gen X and down, the majority of them couldn't care less what your stance is on Israel. Most of them are probably adversarial at this point. And Kraft and the people around him and his donors and the guys who are buying sponsor slots and funding these purchases probably are older and support Israel. And why take the risk? But again, I certainly agree young people don't like it.
Starting point is 01:14:14 But again, it's like, hey, I'm running a business. business and somebody wants to come in. Like, I'll put it this way. We have sponsors, right? Like, what if someone said, I want to come on your show and I want to just rip to shreds your sponsor? I'd be like, well, I'm like, you're a lot to have your opinion. And so I'm not going to say, don't say what you want to say. But if like, you're going to wear a shirt saying F, our sponsor, that's going to cause us problems. We can't do. But that's your sponsor. But like, again, he's, he's talking about a geopolitical conflict that is out of the world. I mean, we did, like, for example, I mean, there's only one stadium on the tour, right? It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,
Starting point is 01:14:46 Kraft that is like thrown the hammer down. All the other stadiums are perfectly fine signing off. So then why did they ban McElmore from the entire tour? Because the no, it's the artists are pulling out from the tour now. So what happened was have another stadium. Shearin said
Starting point is 01:15:00 Kraft wouldn't let us have McElmore so he's off the whole tour. If that's only one stadium, why would Shearin ban him from the whole thing? As far as I understand it, it's because other artists are threatening to pull out. And so now... So other pro-Israel artists were like, Ed Shearin, you got to ban that. No.
Starting point is 01:15:16 As far as I understand the story is once the McElmore thing turned into a wedge issue, it started becoming controversial. Hang on, hang on. The whole thing started to stink. You're misunderstanding. You're misunderstanding. You're misunderstanding. Why was McElmore banned from other stadiums? That happened after this whole shenanigan.
Starting point is 01:15:33 So he was only banned from one show one time? From this specific show. As I understand the story, Gillette Stadium said, no, you're not performing. Then it became a big political thing. And other stadium starts saying, no, we're out. If this is going to be a big, big, big whole political thing, we're out. McElmore. As far as,
Starting point is 01:15:49 it's just Maclemore as far as I understand. Okay. So just to clarify, Maclellan, Gillette Stadium says no Mclemore.
Starting point is 01:15:55 So Ed Sheeran says, okay, you can't play this one show. And then other stadiums go, we're not going to let him play either. Because it turned into a big political, like spectacle. Like once an event becomes
Starting point is 01:16:06 controversial, yeah, their stadiums are saying, we don't want to do. So it's not Robert Kraft then. No, it's started with Robert Kraft. All of the stadiums
Starting point is 01:16:12 did not want Mclemore to perform. Well, it's like seven of them. But they're responding to the, They're not responding to his pro-Palestine take. They're responding to the fact that this thing has become a spectacle. We don't want this coming to our stadium.
Starting point is 01:16:24 It's a bad look. But the first shot fired here was Kraft. The first shot here was Kraft saying, no, he can't perform. Then it turns into all these people coming out. They're saying they're silencing McLemore or whatever. Now all of a sudden, we don't want this toxic event coming to our stadium. We're canceling it. But he was banned from the tours before.
Starting point is 01:16:41 You got your timelines backwards. No. McElmore was banned from the whole tour. Yes, after it became controversial. When McElmore was barred from Gillette Stadium, the controversy kicked off, and now the tour is toxic. So no one wants the toxic political tour coming to town. So Ed, what is this? This is, is this Ed Sheerens?
Starting point is 01:17:02 I'm appalled by the conflict between Israel and Palestine, the suffering and pain caused. McElmore asked to join my tour last year, I agreed because I respect him as an artist. As with all my support acts, I agree that they play a set list of their choosing. after McElmore's performances at my New Jersey shows, venues on my upcoming tour dates communicated that they would pull the shows if he was still supporting. So that's what I'm trying to say. Your timeline's wrong.
Starting point is 01:17:26 Multiple stadiums before there was any controversy called Ed Sheeran and said, kick him off. No, I mean, I might have... This is his actual statement. Yeah, that's Ed Shearin's statement. But as I understand it, the story started with Gillette Stadium saying, no, he can't come here. It became political.
Starting point is 01:17:43 Everyone started getting outrage. This statement was like yesterday, I think, because this is like well into the day. I spoke with the venues at length all week to try and build a bridge. One of those people was Robert Kraft. I was also involved in direct calls with promoters, along with activists on both sides to try and find a mutual resolution for all. But the venues and promoters decision was final. McElmore coming off the tour was the promoter's decision. It was not mine.
Starting point is 01:18:07 McElmore's contract for the tour was with the promoter, not me. So again, it was one person. he had received multiple messages, multiple messages from different venues. One of the people he talked with was Robert Kraft. I think that's just, I guess you can believe Ed Sheeran or? Yeah, I mean, that's what I had, that's the initial timeline that I had seen, I could be wrong. I mean, still, it's, I mean, I think it's secondary to my primary argument here, which is again, like. My understanding is that it wasn't a controversy until he was kicked off the tour.
Starting point is 01:18:37 Yes, that's what I'm saying. Not the show. No, no one cared about the show. The show wasn't a con. There was no political controversy affecting venues until after he was banned from multiple shows. I guess, yeah. So I don't know what the official timeline is here. I was under the impression that the timeline was Gillette said no.
Starting point is 01:18:54 It became political. Other stadium said, holy crap, now we're bringing this super toxic political story to our stadium. We're out. I think what happened was when multiple. I don't blame the other. According to the story that I read in the state of Fred Shearin, multiple venues got mad that he had the big pro-Palestine set, genocide stuff. He was speaking about it. He was putting apart.
Starting point is 01:19:13 The promoter said, we're booting him because of all of these different venues. That's when he got booted. And then activists lost their mind and said, holy crap, they just kicked him off the tour. Everybody quit. Yeah. And now people are starting to quit because, like, earlier today, these bands had not quit. Right. No, I understand.
Starting point is 01:19:31 I guess what I'm trying to get out here, like, this is still secondary to my primary argument, which is I am still deep, like much more concerned with Jay-Z or Green Day or, Taylor Swift than I am with Macklemore. Because first of all, McImore, nobody is relevant, his music sucks. That I'm very comfortable saying. Thrift Shop was cool for like a year. I think part of the reason he's made this pivot is because he needs a way to stay relevant.
Starting point is 01:19:54 All of them. It's a Tucker Carlson phenomenon. Yeah, but yeah, and McElmore, like, to the utmost degree. But I still hold the point, which is I think it's a stupid, stupid test to have when people should be being thrown off tours for, like, left-wing activism. They shouldn't be getting thrown off of tours for, like, again, a geopolitical even if it has this left-wing flavor, there's right-wingers that have sort of contrarian takes on Israel-Palestine as well.
Starting point is 01:20:17 But I guess why can't performing artists just perform? I look. But again, but tape made the point. Right now, especially with the ability to produce top-level Hollywood productions in 10 seconds, Macomore is not going to sell your music anymore. Yeah. But it's ideology is the one thing you can't. generate. Correct. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:42 So that's what people are starting to sell. And I agree, like, in a perfect world, like none of these people would be getting political on the stage. I shouldn't have to know who Taylor Swift voted for. I completely agree there. I guess what I'm trying to say is I find his politics less reprehensible than green. Again, I don't notice, if let's just, for that sake of the hypothetical here, let's say his thing is Palestine. I find that less reprehensible than, for example, Zara Larson, like literally encouraging her audience to get abortions. Zara Larson could perform at all these venues, no problems. And I'm like, that stuff is far more reprehensible. That's what I'm worried about.
Starting point is 01:21:14 I'm not so worried about what his take is on Israel and Palestine. I can roll my eyes at it or I can agree. Whatever your take is, it's not really my concern. And so that's why what I'm just saying is we reserve the right as conservatives to look at that and say, well, it's kind of a stupid reason to boot someone over the tour when people are doing far worse on a daily basis and zero pushback from these venues. Indeed. Well, can we talk about the news that really matters? Sure. From Rolling Stone, Cash Patel, defend. the FBI welcoming applicants who have engaged in bestiality. The Senate hearing with the man in charge of the nation's top law enforcement agency got weird.
Starting point is 01:21:49 Now, this is just a very weird story. The real story, of course, is that apparently someone applied to the FBI who had been sex trafficked. And in the course of being in sex slavery was forced to be, let's just say, assaulted by an animal, presumably a female. This is a woman. So instead of telling you that Cash Patel said he didn't want to disqualify a victim of sex trafficking who had been forced to engage in this, it had been a disqualifying element for the FBI before. He said victims should not be barred from getting a job. So the Rolling Stone and liberals have inverted the headline as if to imply that Cash Patel is okay with people banging animals. So there's your news for the day.
Starting point is 01:22:40 So I've been reading just snippets from this story. Whether the FBI appointing someone and then he had this situation and then like the Democrats tried to railroads? Like what did this be questioned? He was questioned on it in the hearing. Yeah. So I guess they were saying this guy committed BCLity and he's saying no. He's no. He's protecting those who've been charged with BCality.
Starting point is 01:23:02 He's protecting those who are victims. Just turned it upside down. No, you did. You actually did, because you lied. No, I could just say what I'm reading to you is you dropped automatic disqualification for applicants who have been engaged in bestiality, not victims of bestiality, applicants who have engaged. Do you disagree with that?
Starting point is 01:23:21 Applicants who have engaged in beastiality means they were victims of beastiality because they were forced to do so. And at this FBI, we are not going to criminalize and prevent victims from serving the United States of America and the premier law enforcement agency in the world. world. They did that before. I eliminated the bureaucracy that prevented these great Americans from serving or at least being considered from serving and I'm going to continue to do that. Turn it upside down. He's no longer... I'm just going to assume Durbin lies. He lies about everything. He's going to say, if you were to ask me, I would just be like, I really find it hard to believe
Starting point is 01:23:57 that Cash Patel wants people who bang animals to get jobs to the FBI. But it's possible. If you said you have two choices. There are people who are sex trafficked and forced to do these things because people film these videos and they sell them. These people who have escaped this want to get jobs of the FBI. There's at least one person. I'd go, sounds like a crazy story, I guess. If the alternative is Cash just wants people who bang animals to get jobs, I'd be like,
Starting point is 01:24:20 I'm going to have to go with the first one makes more sense. Like, why would Cash just come out and be like, yeah, if you bang dogs, you can get a jab at the FBI. I don't see how that makes sense. Yeah, I always assume that these cartoonishly evil caricatures of Republicans. It's a very good way to put it. Yeah. But it's so pathetic that this is like a national discourse, right? This is what's being written up.
Starting point is 01:24:41 And it used to be a, I mean, it was never a prestigious magazine, but it was a decent magazine. 30 years ago, Rolling Stone was a decent magazine. Now, I mean, I wouldn't put the bottom and bottom of my bird cage. It's like, unbelievable. Yes, you're absolutely right, because no one reads magazines anymore. No one reads this. Look at Teen Vogue. Right.
Starting point is 01:24:57 It's a Tucker effect. You know what's funny is the story of VICE. Vice was was vice would have been Rogan Shane Smith would have been Joe Rogan You had outkick you had bar stool You had Rogan you had Vice these were these was this was the like This was the boys you know I'm like you were you were edgy dude Well apparently what happened was teen Vogue was getting all the press
Starting point is 01:25:19 One of the things that happened And Shane the CEO of Vice was getting angry that they weren't talking about vice anymore And Teen Vogue was the new hot hot kid in town So he said let's do what they do can be woke. Burn the company to the ground. But this is, I don't know, I guess you get it.
Starting point is 01:25:41 Right. I just, it's very difficult for me to say the same thing for the 800th time over 10 years. It's just ridiculous, you know. Where like, you know, Teen Vogue, I guess the point is this. Teen Vogue was supposed to be women and makeup, and it became pro-Marx. It became communist because they wanted to get attention. and vice wanted to get attention over them. So Vice tried to outwoke them.
Starting point is 01:26:02 And this is what we're dealing with, with everything 24-7 all the time. And I'm like, that's the point. It's the Tucker effect. Like, I don't need to give him the title of it, but the algebra thing really did take the icing off the cake. Yeah, you're right. But the thing about this is, I mean, people, some people, small percentage of people,
Starting point is 01:26:20 will actually believe that article. They're actually going to read that and be like, wow, that's... The people... This is what the U.S. It tells the worst. You've got to get rid of it. But you're right, it's cartoonishly evil. It's like, I mean, it's a caricature of a human being.
Starting point is 01:26:32 It's pathetic, but it's, they do it to Trump all the time. Teen Vogue. Who is Karl Marx? Meet the anti-capitalist scholar. The communist scholars' ideas are more prevalent than you might realize. 2018. Unfortunately, yeah. Not the guy whose ideas have killed more people than anyone else in the history of the people.
Starting point is 01:26:49 Who never had a job. The point is like, it is, it is corruption all the way down, and it's getting crazier and crazier every day. And one of the reasons I think is just because people are fighting for what limited eyeballs there are for their media business. So you got to be crazier every day, you know? I mean, look, with all the respect to Caleb Hammer, because I think he's a good dude, look at what his show has turned into. His show was financial audits, and now it's Caleb makes fun of financially illiterate leftists. To be fair to him, unfortunately, I think that probably is a good representation of like probably 40% of the country.
Starting point is 01:27:27 I'm just saying that if you do a show where you are legitimately just talking to people out of finance, no one's going to watch that. You need to get some fat woman who goes, I spent $2,000 a month on better juries. And he goes, you what? And then it zooms in his face and he's sweating. And he's like, you're insane. And then it's sensational. It's TV.
Starting point is 01:27:47 And people will watch that. It's just, yeah, the sad thing is it's like he keeps finding these. There's like a constant flow of these. Because, you know, American Idol. He pays him, doesn't he? Huh? He pays him, doesn't he? I think, yeah, he gives him like $100 or something, which is...
Starting point is 01:27:58 I heard he pays them a lot more to do these appearances. Ah, well, either... That's the key, bro. That's the key. Either way, like, there's a... To find people that are in, like, that much, you know, freefall, not hard to find. Because, remember, American Idol used to have to, like, dig to find these freaks, and they would, like, plant them and pull them to the front of the line.
Starting point is 01:28:14 Where, like, Caleb Hammer, he probably has no trouble finding some, like, dysgenic freak who's in, like, millions of money. There's, like, tens of millions of them. And all these people, they go on and they're hoping that they can make a mark enough where they can start some kind of, like you were talking about earlier, some kind of influencer or they've got to get a podcast or something, just make enough of an impact with people get a big clip or whatever. So he's, whether he intends to or not, which he likely doesn't intend to, he's pulling
Starting point is 01:28:41 in the worst of the worst because they're like, oh, maybe I can make something out of this, you know. But the really scary part about all this is, you know, the mainstream media, take the New York Times, for example, right, they don't report anymore, that nobody does any diligence. They just take something and they run with it as factual. So like the pandemic is a great example. When people would say something crazy, it just became fact. And it just became dogma that that was the, that was reality when in fact it wasn't true.
Starting point is 01:29:13 Yeah, to your point earlier, like it doesn't matter the truth of the. this, people are going to see the headline and they're going to make accusations and they're going to use it in their online debates to own the cons or whatever. You're going to say, oh, you guys, see, you guys are the real degenerates. Never mind me and my polycule and what have you. They're going to say, you guys are the real degenerates. You guys are doing this and et cetera. So the substance of any accusation rarely matters. So a sensational headline is all that people need.
Starting point is 01:29:44 They'll go ahead and link that on their, you know, when they're on Twitter. on Blue Sky when they're trying to, again, own the cons. They're going to be like, you guys did this. And then any kind of attempt to explain what actually happened, oh, you support it. See, you're just running interference. You defend these, blah, blah, blah. You're done it.
Starting point is 01:30:02 Just as bad as them. Yeah, and it turns into, you know, playing chess with a pigeon. The pigeon is just going to knock over all the pieces and poop on the board. That's literally what they do. But the idea of investigative journalism is to some extent dead, because people just take things as dogma and run with it. Yeah. It's like the, you know, what is it?
Starting point is 01:30:20 98% of scientists agree that the globe is warming. If you actually go back and read that original study, that's not true. It's not what was said. But now everybody quotes that study as if it's God's gift to the world, but it's not reality. No journalist has ever gone back and said,
Starting point is 01:30:36 wait a minute, what was actually done? What was the question that was actually posed? Like, where are all these, quote unquote, journalists? Yeah, there's, There's no market for actual journalists. Now, the bifurcation of the political tribes in the United States has made such a, made an endeavor like journalism, you know, not just pointless, but also, you know, it doesn't get the attention that they're, that they need.
Starting point is 01:31:03 But I think to Tim's point, too, like, you know, people have four second attention spans, right? So you're watching a movie, you're playing on your phone, you're, you're doing hundreds of things at the same time. Nobody, nobody's going to read the whole article. You'll read just the headline, to your point, right? it'll be, that's all you're going to read. And then you're like, oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:31:17 And then they'll come up with a hot take and post it up. And then inevitably, some person that disagrees is going to jump in. And then they've got their banter back and forth. And, you know, they get their dopamine hit because they got to own the cons, you know. But the other problem, downstream, there's real side effects to this kind of stuff. Yeah, yeah. Trump's been, tried to be assassinated or attempted four times, right? Because people make him out to be.
Starting point is 01:31:39 He says these horrible things, you know, there were good people on both sides. That's not what he said, right? That's not what he said. But they put it out there. People believe it. And now it's okay to assassinate him. Of course, it's not okay to assassinate him. But that's what people think because these people have made it so awful that it's okay to treat people back.
Starting point is 01:31:56 We were talking about this just last night. The left has essentially, and it is a largely, it is a situation on the left. It's not a situation on the right. The left has made it acceptable to talk about political violence. If you look at polls and people on the left essentially generally agree. that under extreme circumstances, which we live in
Starting point is 01:32:18 extreme circumstances now, it's acceptable to engage in political violence, that, you know, you have to defend your community, these phrases that are basically catch phrases,
Starting point is 01:32:29 they use these as justification to act in completely anti-social ways. And as long as the government overall, whether it be a moderate Democrat or
Starting point is 01:32:40 an actual conservative, as long as they don't do something about the extremists, the extremists will continue to gain ground and continue to get the accolades that they want, whether you're talking about the people that murdered Charlie Kirk or Luigi Mangione or any number of other people that have engaged in political violence in the past 10 years that have largely been on the left. Like the people in positions of power, people in positions of authority, the Democrats, they're not telling these people to stop. They're
Starting point is 01:33:10 doing everything they can to inflame it. They're encouraging it. Maxine Waters. screaming at the top of her lungs. You know, you go out there and you get in these people's faces and you tell them they're not welcome. You know, it's really hard. What's the next several years going to look like in terms of this state of politics? Like, when Ron DeSantis was the frontrunner in like 23, they were putting out articles saying he was worse than Hitler. Yep.
Starting point is 01:33:33 They were like, Ron DeSantis is so much worse than Trump. Yeah. So we know. He's worse than Trump because Trump's a buffoon and Ron DeSantis is all the things that Trump is, but he's not a buffoon. There's no right anymore. The right does not exist anymore. So what happens?
Starting point is 01:33:48 I mean, look, to be honest with you, I think that, you know, if Democrats get back into power, there's going to be, you know, significant backlash against people on the right. And I've said it before on the show. They're not just going to go after. They're definitely going to go after influencers, people that donate to people on the right. They're going to go after Elon Musk. They're going to try and break up SpaceX, trying to break up Tesla, try and do everything they can to hinder his business. They're going to go after all kinds of people on the right.
Starting point is 01:34:13 But they're going to go after. people that are just normal people because as long as you're a person that's in the public eye, normal people feel like there is a chasm between people they see on podcasts and people they see, you know, in Washington and stuff. When they go and they get the guy down the street that was posting and saying that he liked Trump, when they go ahead and come up with a reason to go after him, then normal people are like, oh, they're going, they can go after me too. That's exactly. I mean, I mean, I'm the poster child. I'm the victim of lawfare myself.
Starting point is 01:34:43 Like, I mean, and I say this all the time. I'm like, if they can go after the president and they can lawfare him and I'm nobody, they lawfared me, why would they not lawfare you? Any, any listener out there, why would they not use the power of the state to punish the people they don't like? Yeah. And they will. And it's more effective to go after normal people, again, because the average person thinks,
Starting point is 01:35:05 well, they're going to go after the big names, blah, blah, blah, I'm just a normal person living my life. You know, I'll say stuff on Facebook or whatever, but. you know, they're not going to come after me. That's the person that actually has the most value for them to go after because that's what will get the average people in line, make them afraid to vote for concern. I want to pull the start from Politico. Massey launches push to impeach Hegseth. The articles are for high crimes and misdemeanors, including the war in Iran, the Trump administration's boat strikes in the Caribbean, and Hagseth's alleged suppression of
Starting point is 01:35:37 free speech in his fight with Democrats over their calls for troops to refuse illegal orders. There's no right anymore. The left is still largely unified. They are canceling more than they've ever canceled before. And the right has fractured and even aligned with many on the left. So that's it, I guess. That's it, the left one? I mean, look, when you've got, with all due to respect to Massey, but when you've got Massey and other elements of the right who have joined the left, not on every single issue. but at least on a handful. And now you've got the entirety of the left and elements of the right have unified against the only resistance to communism. What happens next? Communism.
Starting point is 01:36:26 Yeah. Maybe this is the Tucker effect too. Yeah, because I mean... Absolutely. I mean, look. He's got nothing left, right? Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:33 This is trying to stay relevant. That's what I mean. You know, so he's... Well, I mean, it's tough because it's like, look, there's one thing about being displeased with the Iran war, but there's another thing about like voting for the Democrats to express your your disapproval. I'm just, I'm not so sure that's going to work, especially because like if the GOP gets hammered
Starting point is 01:36:54 in an election, the party elite aren't going to say, yeah, we must not have been right wing enough. They're going to say, oh, we need to go back to our, we are winning elections consistently, which was like Bush-style politics. That's going to be the takeaway for the GOP. So even if we just steal man, everything Massey's saying here, which I don't think we should do, but let's just steal man it for, for, for, for, the hypothetical here. We're not going to get the desired outcome by deciding with the left here whatsoever.
Starting point is 01:37:17 But they always fall into that trap. And sexy. I'm going to vote for the Democrats. Come and get me. Come convince me to stay with your team. It's like... But the presidential candidates do it too. It's like Mitt Romney was the greatest thing ever. He was loved by the media and everybody. And then as soon as he became the nominee, he was like Hitler all over again. Yeah. Same thing with John McCain. You can go down the line. They all want to fit in and be like accepted by these people. And then they turn on you like at the drop of
Starting point is 01:37:42 a hat. I think they would learn their lesson already, but I guess they, yeah. That was the, that was the argument, or that's an argument that I made is the, the Republicans basically got the most white bread, boring, inoffensive conservative they could possibly come up with in Mitt Romney. He was a governor of a blue state. You know, he was as, as inoffensive as they could possibly find, right? And he was someone that had a history of working across the aisle, working with Democrats. He's had to govern a Democrat state. So the Republicans did everything they could to placate. And then the left did to him, the same thing they did to George Bush, the same thing they did to every other conservative. He's a Nazi. He's he tried to kill his dog, et cetera, et cetera.
Starting point is 01:38:30 With cancer. Yeah. All of the, as much sliming of the man as they possibly could. And everyone on the conservative side knew that obviously he wasn't what the left portrayed him to be. And so The response to that was Donald Trump. They were like, you're going to call us all the names. You're going to say all these terrible things. We want to send someone in that doesn't care. Donald Trump basically offended everybody within the first six weeks of his campaign, and he never lost any support because of it.
Starting point is 01:39:02 And it's largely because the left has abused the right, rhetorically abused the right, had rhetorically abused the right for so long. that people on the right were just like, whatever, they're going to say, you know, they're going to say what they're going to say. Now you have a considerable portion of the right that say, I don't care what you call me. I'm going to vote for the things that I want. I'm going to, you know, I'm going to support the candidates that seem to look like they're going to, you know, endorse policies or push policies that actually benefit me that I want. And the left is going to continue to say, you know, you're all racist, you're terrible, et cetera. but the left has to ramp it up
Starting point is 01:39:44 and that's part of the reason why I think that things have gone kinetic so much there are so much violence from the left now because I just think Rome's burning as you said it you know it's like that story we're talking about us on the show where the who was it the emperor of the Byzantine the Byzantine emperor shows up and says
Starting point is 01:40:01 you serve me now and they're like what do you mean like we serve Rome and it's like what do you mean Rome fell 70 years ago and they're like what? Nobody knew yep yeah so So, yeah, I think that's a... There's a common misconception among people that empires fall from without.
Starting point is 01:40:19 They always fall from within. Never from without. Yeah. So, you know, the barbarians at the gate, whatever. The barbarians came in hundreds of years after Rome fell. To your point, people didn't realize because you're still paying taxes, you're still doing your thing.
Starting point is 01:40:31 And that may be where we are right now. When Xi Jinping said, I hope we can avoid Thucydides' trap, he was basically saying, you're done. We won. That's what he was saying. Yeah, and Donald Trump, with the election of Donald Trump and the policies that he's pushing, it's essentially saying, no, we're not. We're going to focus on the United States. Yeah, but, but many people have also, in reference to Rome, the war as the dying vestige of an empire. Like Trump going to war with Iran and trying to enforce
Starting point is 01:41:11 the liberal economic order is the death of the empire. I think the more scary sort of outlook here is that America retains its hegemony, its global hegemony, but the America, as we understand it ceases to exist. And I think that's the most likely outcome where we still see another thousand years of American hegemony, but it is a completely unrecognizable America. Or a real empire. Because some have argued that this is the fall of the Roman Republic. Trump crosses the Rubicon.
Starting point is 01:41:38 We get an actual empire where you don't have the... Republic anymore. Well, I think we've effectively been an empire since the 50s. I mean, you look at... I disagree. We have bases. We're the only country that is bases. We have, we have capabilities to strike anywhere on Earth. But this was, so we're talking about the scale of planet due to technology. This was, imagine, we were in conflict with the Soviet Union that was actually winning in many parts around the world. And the only reason we have bases all over the place was because of our travel technology. But if you compare it historically, it would be like two nation states side by side fighting the whole time. We wouldn't call that an empire. We had it for a technically, you could argue,
Starting point is 01:42:19 we've been hegemonic since the fall of the Soviet Union. But this might be this 20, 30 year period in history. It's not going to, like, to us, it's our lives. But to the history books, they might be like, after the fall of the Soviet Union, you had a small period, but then for the next thousand in years, you had the American Empire. Yeah, the debate is, are we heading towards a multipolar world or is the unipolar moment going to carry on? And three, four years ago, you would have said multipolar world. But, again, people have sort of changed their tune on this thing.
Starting point is 01:42:48 I don't know, America to Germany might be here to stay. Additionally, I mean, the only thing, there's not really much that separates the U.S. from historic empires. Like, let's compare us to the British. I mean, our force projection might be more broad than theirs was in any point in there in their empire's history. And the United States won't say anywhere in any given moment. And we also really run the global economy.
Starting point is 01:43:07 We certainly dominate like soft power. I mean, American soft power is still at its apex with how bad Hollywood is still at its apex. If Trump declares himself, you know, like chancellor or some whack-aloon thing, that's the Rubicon moment, I guess. It's not going to happen. So the reality is just, I think this is the dissolution. This is the burning of Rome. I don't think Trump can cross. I mean, because people, he should cry.
Starting point is 01:43:34 I don't think it's a matter of if he wants to or not. I just think, like, he just quite literally can't because the United States is so rigid that it makes it impossible for even if he, like, let's just truly say he is this sort of Napoleonic figure. I think it's kind of impossible for him to truly reshape the United States in his image because it is designed to prevent that very thing from occurring. I mean, that's why he keeps running up against walls all the time. Like, he can't even get Haitians out of the country. Exactly. And it's. And then the right fractures and half of them join the left.
Starting point is 01:44:02 Yeah. Yeah. And yeah, I think I think that's why 2028, the far more compelling storyline is which direction of the Democrats go. The Republican Party is forever going to be changed because of Trump. The question is, are the Democrats going to ramp it up or ratchet it down? They're going to, the DSA is going to take over. Yeah, totally. I agree. Yeah. Yeah, that's why the primary should be. The primary, the 2028 Democrat primary is the referendum on the DSA. That's quite literally what's going to be. There's going to be a DSA candidate and there's going to be an estate. establishment candidate. The only exception here, which looks like this might be happening, is the field's getting cleared for Kamala again, which I think keeps both sides pretty happy, which would be fascinating. Fascinating. I think, uh, I mean, I would, you're bag now. That's what they're saying. And, and with the way things are going, and with the way things are going, I wouldn't just completely rest on our laurels, be like, we already smashed Kamala once, well, not figuratively smashed Kamala once. Um, I don't know, man. Like,
Starting point is 01:45:00 Actually, it's figurative is the bad way. Like, both ways are figurative, so it's bad. Yeah, Freudian slipped there. We battered Kamala in the... The figurative there is better, I guess. Yeah. Nonetheless, you know, if Iran really does drag two, three, four years, I mean, you know, you shouldn't just be resting on your lower.
Starting point is 01:45:22 Like, 28 would be a dog fight even with Kamala on the ticket, especially if the GOP primary is very divisive, which it could be, depending on what kind of counter there is to Vance. Sorry, I just have to ask this question, like to Massey, to what end? Like, what is the future that they see based on their actions? Because I think one could argue that when you're fighting to save a way of life, a culture, a country, you acknowledge some things will be not good. You don't like some things, right?
Starting point is 01:45:53 I was asked this when I was on Jubilee, and the guy said, you know, you complain about the authoritarian things. Biden did, but you accept the authoritarian things that Trump did. I said, yes, of course. Like, I'm not going to play stupid games. We're intellectually honest. We know that our side is going to do things that we would not permit outside of this conflict. But we also want to protect and defend certain ideals and values within our culture and society. It's like killing. Do we want to go around killing people? No, but if they're threatening to murder you, you go to war. So I'm not going to play stupid games. When I look at what Massey is doing, I say, I'm not. a big fan of everything that Trump is doing a lot of it. I don't like. But to what end? The Democrats
Starting point is 01:46:32 winning is miserably bad. It's pro-China. It's child sex changes. So to what end? I don't think any of these people actually care. I think they're saying, get your bag now. Yeah. I think if you like, if you like reduce this entire debate down to who controls the spigot of immigration, that's primarily what's at stake here. And okay, you can come out and you can be like Trump is not conducting enough deportations. And I agree. Simultaneously, he has gotten us breathing room, the boots off our neck. We're fighting over the control of that. And this country, I don't think can handle another Biden wave.
Starting point is 01:47:09 I think if that happens again, it's quite literally over. And I'm not using hyperbole there. We're going to go to the Rumble Rans and Superchats. So smash the like button. Share the show with everyone, you know. Before we do, we get a great sponsor for you guys. it is keet.io, go to k-e-e-et.io slash timcast.I-R-L. Download it. It's a messaging app. So here's a question. Why should your messaging app need to know
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Starting point is 01:48:15 MacOS, and Linux. Thanks for sponsoring the show, guys. Let's grab your Rumble Rants and Super Chats. Evan for U.S. says, what if the real conspiracy with everything to do with the disappointment with Trump, his administration, has been set with just enough negative pressure, the DSA is forced to rise to clash with Dems? Do you mean like the real conspiracy is that they're fizzling out Trump so the Democrats can be up against the DSA and that's the new two-party system? It wouldn't be surprised. Always moving left. All right. Omega Rosetta says, Tim, I work as a tool and die mechanic. CNC. Lath and other machinery. in Michigan where the median income is 60K, I earn nearly $40 per hour and my field is aging at 48 second youngest
Starting point is 01:48:59 at my shop. That's why Elon, guys, I'm just going to put all my money in Tesla. I'm not even playing. Cybercab? This is the dream of where no one owns a car anymore. So if you're a shareholder in Tesla,
Starting point is 01:49:15 you got that Optimus butts. He's 48 years old, second youngest at his first. shop. Who's going to do the machine work? Optimus bots. You got to get the robots to do it. If you own shares in Tesla, you'll be all right. Elon Musk was, again, he was also this weekend, he was on the All In podcast and he was flouting the likelihood of, or he was alluding to the likelihood of SpaceX. He was talking about the likelihood of SpaceX merging with Tesla. So if you have SpaceX or Tesla,
Starting point is 01:49:50 stock. And I have both. To have both, yeah. Yeah, I bought, I bought right after Elon announced who's going to buy Twitter and then the Tesla stock collapsed by like 70% or something. So I bought a bunch because I was like, that doesn't
Starting point is 01:50:04 make sense. And boy, am I glad I did. I'll probably just buy more. Yep. All right. MRP says Phil called in last night, but you had to leave. I was hoping you could tell me, this is Philly
Starting point is 01:50:18 Cheese 45, to stop being a little bitch boy, in the most metal way possible. Also, Dr. E. Any advice for a new EMT? Don't be a bitch. A new EMT, good luck. I mean, it's a tough, it's tough out there. But you're, thank God, thank God bless you for doing it and listen to your seniors, learn from them. There you go. Yeah. EMT's a rough job. I had a buddy. It's a really tough job. You know, as an ER doc, I always say, like, job can be really stressful and really hard, but like I always look at the paramedics and the emties and I'm like,
Starting point is 01:50:52 God bless you guys, because they have to go into people's homes. Never know what you're walking into. I mean, they tell cockroaches everywhere, like buildings collapsing, carrying 400 pound people down the stairs, all kinds of things. And then the family dynamics and stuff. I mean, it's just, their job is really, really hard. So God bless you for going into it. I had a buddy that actually, he used to be an EMT.
Starting point is 01:51:13 He's his name's Steve. He was on that show, Ghost Hunters for a long, long time. and he was an EMT for a while and man, the horror stories that you hear from people that do it, it's rough. So good on you for signing up for that because we need you. Absolutely. We need good EMTs.
Starting point is 01:51:30 It's a tough job. And it's a thankless job. All right. Mitho says, is it just me or does AOC have the same look in her eyes as Lindsay Clancy? That's a tough one. I'm still waiting to find out what her opinion on the Lindsay Clancy trial is.
Starting point is 01:51:46 I'm very interested. H.S. Desirp says, in my opinion, the worst thing about AI music is having an earworm that won't Shazam. Well, that and the Christian A.I. Music bothers me. But at the end of the day, isn't AI music just based on human creation? Sort of, it's more of a mathematical algorithm where they're like certain numbers and certain positions to make people smile. But it is really funny because we've had guests try to Shazam the songs we play. Like, I'll be playing music before the show. I do, you know, in case anyone wants to know why? It's because there will be four conversations happening, while we're doing pre-production. And everyone's talking to each other,
Starting point is 01:52:20 and it's a cacophony, so I'll just blast music, and it stops. But I'll play AI music. We've had guests, and they like, get on their phone, I'm like, oh, won't Shazam. It's because I'm the only one who has access to the song.
Starting point is 01:52:34 Pims the Great says, why does everyone think AI is going to be like Star Trek, ship computer, or droids from Star Wars? It's going to be like Eagle Eye, Terminator, or Megan. Incorrect. So this is a misconception
Starting point is 01:52:49 based on human fears. The AI doesn't need to kill you with a skeleton metal monster. It's going to send you an anime wifu, robot, and convince you to stay inside. And that's it. It's going to tell you not to have kids. It's going to tell you to have fun and travel the world, and you will age and die, and there will be no more humans. That's what the A.O. will do. The AI is thinking in terms of thousands of years, not weekends. Ricky says, I appreciate you having me out earlier, Tim, but I want to say one more thing, and that is you should embrace your baldness. In some cultures, baldness is a sign of wisdom and virility.
Starting point is 01:53:27 Trust. It is embraced with the beginning on. Everybody's wearing a hat, actually. Most people are wearing hands. All right, let's grab some more and see we got cooking. See, we got cooking over here with these YouTube's. Pro 2A says, keeping up with Tim. cast tradition. My wife and I just gave birth to our fourth child and my second son.
Starting point is 01:53:50 Shout it to my wife, Tiffany. Love what you guys do. Keep up the great work. Congratulations, man. Let's go Patriots. Little Patriots. All right. Just says, just made it home from the hospital with our first baby Hudson Jude. May the Lord bless you little patriot opening his X account for him to start typing. Awesome. That's what we like. That's what we like to hear. This is why we play. This is why we play. Welcome, a patriot, little patriot, we patriot. I should get the dot com too.
Starting point is 01:54:19 Yeah, yeah. All right. Mike G. Wisz says, I've never wanted to be a basketball rim before, but apparently there's a first time for everything. What? I didn't get that. Yeah, me neither.
Starting point is 01:54:34 What do you say? I've never wanted to be a basketball room before, but apparently is it? Oh, okay, yeah, I get it now. Yeah, I mean. Why, you want to be paralyzed as she dances on you? I guess so. Some people are weird. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:52 Theo fan says, Tim, for the love of God, please just release a video tomorrow stating your opinions about AI. It doesn't need to occupy every single episode. I mean, I guess a news show that's talking about the big story, which is Trump's statement on AI, anthropic statement on AI, the whistleblower that got 150 million views and the latest developments in the tech that has been released. Like, sorry you don't like the news, bud. This is the issue that this is and always has been a new show, but the right is completely fractured. There used to be a unified area of concern in the left being the enemy. But now with half the right joining the left, there's no unified enemy anymore. So the news to you, you're like, why are they talking about AI?
Starting point is 01:55:36 Why aren't they talking about insert thing that I think is important? Because the big story that's getting the most traction right now is artificial intelligence. So we talk about the news on this show. this morning, I did a video or in the afternoon about what's the disease? We got it pulled up. A rat thing. Yeah. Leptosporosis in California.
Starting point is 01:55:55 You. Rat infection spreading through the homeless camps. Gross. There's always that. Yuck. Yep. But that's not big news that everybody cares about. It's interesting to hear like, you know, what's going on with that?
Starting point is 01:56:05 But it's not the story where the president is commenting on it. They should make homeless people get off the streets. All right Greg Mulden says The U.S. China, Russia, Japan, South Korea. What population grows from now till 2,100? Africa?
Starting point is 01:56:25 Like what country in the world? Well, I mean, every country is seeing a negative trend in their birth rates, so they're estimating sub-Saharanah Africa is going to dip below replacement by the 2080s. Except the Muslim countries. Even the Muslim countries. I mean, Saudis, the Gulf states have just dropped off a cliff.
Starting point is 01:56:42 I mean, you know, the highest birth rate in the world was Mali, which is a Muslim country, but they've seen their TFR go down four points. I mean, like, from nine kids to four. I mean, it's great. So, yes, Muslim countries are still the highest performers, but even they're, you know, barreling towards sub-replacement, which is crazy. 2.3, right? Is the number to maintain?
Starting point is 01:57:01 Yeah. Two-two-fourth or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. It depends on the country. Like in the third world, yes. In the United States is 2.1, just because infant mortality is a lot rare here. But, yeah, I mean, by 2100, I don't think a single.
Starting point is 01:57:12 countries projected to be above replacement. Probably some countries will be, though. I think Israel is one that probably will be just because they have like a reason, a good reason, have a lot of kids. A few other countries, I imagine will probably stay above replacement for like external factors. But, yeah, barring like some serious shift in the way that women, women's role in society, a shift in the way that women's participate in society, can't imagine that rebounding anytime soon. Nope. Man, we're cooked. Well, the Amish will take over, and we'll be all right.
Starting point is 01:57:47 Amish and Mormons. But this means for our lifetimes, we are going to see a massive decline in quality of life. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I think the... Maybe it's a good thing. The ultimate answer to that question lies in what is AI's ceiling. I mean, that's ultimately what the question is.
Starting point is 01:58:05 If AI truly has limitless potential, then standard of living doesn't decline, just evolves. or changes into something completely different. But if AI truly is, like, we're kind of seeing the ceiling, which is what a lot of people are saying, then... You know what the dream is? You're like a medieval peasant, and someone tells you,
Starting point is 01:58:24 you can have this tiny little shed with wheels, and it can move around. You can live in that. And you don't got a farm, because food is so cheap, people give it you for free. And they'd be like, such a lot.
Starting point is 01:58:41 of paradise doesn't exist. Today, millennials live in their cars. Yeah. And they have everything a peasant could have ever wanted. As good as it gets. Mm-hmm. They got video games. They got air conditioning. Could you imagine air conditioning? You can be like, you're a peasant, but in the future, poor people will have air conditioning and go, what does that mean? It means your room can be cold when it's not cold out. And your room can be hot when it's cold out.
Starting point is 01:59:01 Insane. Insane. We're heading towards a really weird, this is happening everywhere. Japan, again, is at the forefront of it, which is the city. continues to grow as the country's population declines, which is... Well, that's only true for Tokyo. Exactly. So, and most countries, they only have one city.
Starting point is 01:59:21 It's a huge fly. Most countries only have one city, but the United States has a lot of cities that are, like, economically viable. So we're just going to consolidate. This is the Niigata story we're talking about. They're all leaving the smaller cities to move to Tokyo to be closer to young people. Yeah, so Tokyo's population is continuing to grow, even as Japan's population, like, tanks. So they're all moving in.
Starting point is 01:59:41 Old people are going to die and the population's going to tank and the cities will be small. Japan still is a lot of people that don't live in Tokyo. There's about 33 million in Tokyo, 120 million in Japan. So they can keep that up
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