Timcast IRL - Texas GOP Greenlights ARREST WARRANTS For Dems Who FLED State w/ Ellie Bufkin
Episode Date: August 5, 2025Phil, Tate, & Shane are joined by Ellie Bufkin to discuss the Texas GOP greenlighting issuing arrest warrants for Democrats who fled the state to block redistricting, the Governor of New York floating... redistricting after slamming Texas for doing the same, Democrat Senator Elizabeth Warren declaring Zohran Mamdani is the democratic message, and new reports Israel plans total occupation of Gaza. Hosts: Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) Tate @RealTateBrown (X) Shane @ShaneCashman (everywhere) Serge @SergeDotCom (everywhere) Guest: Ellie Bufkin @ellie_bufkin (X)
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you Over the weekend, Texas Democrats fled the state in order to avoid a quorum because the
Republican efforts are looking to do some early redistricting. Now, the Texas House has greenlit arrest warrants for the Democrats who fled.
And Democrat governors across the country are looking to get into this
with Kathy Hochul having an opinion.
She said that New York is exploring every option to redraw our state
congressional lines to counteract Texas's new map.
So we're going to get into that.
Benjamin Netanyahu has decided on a full-on occupation of Gaza Strip.
Now honestly, this is not a surprise.
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be the authority in Gaza anymore, and it was going to be Israel having to have some kind of occupation,
but we'll talk about it. Elizabeth Warren has confirmed that Zoran Mandamni's message
of, you know, from each according to their ability to each according to their need is
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So would you please introduce yourself
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Yeah, so I'm Ellie Buffkin. I'm currently the deputy communications director at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies
But I'm a journalist. I've worked around DC, New York for Fox News for
The Federalist the Washington Examiner in town hall for the last 10 years or so
So kind of started with Trump back in the day. So day. Awesome. Thanks for coming. Shane is here.
Hello, hello. I am Shane Cashman, host of Inverted World Live. Tonight I'll be running out of here
around 940 to go live on my show on YouTube and Rumble. We're gonna have a big night. We're gonna
talk about a giant blob that's underground moving towards New York City. Of what? I don't know yet.
We're gonna find out tonight. We got a 30-year-old frozen embryo that was just born. We're gonna find out tonight. We got a 30 year old frozen embryo that was just born
We're definitely talk about that tonight and a nuclear reactor on the moon if it's real. How are you doing?
Well, it's producer tate tate Brown
Occasional host of the morning show whenever Tim's voice is shot
So did that today had a lot of fun good to see everyone again. All right. Well, we're gonna get right into it
This is a breaking from the post-millennial Texas House green lights
arrest warrants for Democrats who fled the state to avoid redistricting vote.
Texas Democrat lawmakers have defied Governor Greg Abbott's deadline to
return to the state legislature to allow a vote on redistricting congressional
boundaries. As a result Abbott has ordered for those members
to be arrested. Abbott warned late Sunday that he would pursue
legal action to remove the lawmakers from office if they
fail to return to Austin by Monday, August 4 2025 to vote
on the proposal. Abbott on Monday also directed the Texas
Rangers to investigate fleeing Texas House Democrats for
potential bribery and any
other potential legal violations connected to their refusal to appear for a quorum, conduct
business and cast votes, Abbott said.
That investigation should extend to anyone who aided or abetted such potential crimes.
Abbott's pressure follows a walkout by Democrats seeking to deny the Texas House a quorum,
the minimum number of legislators
required to conduct business by leaving the state Democrats
effectively froze all legislative activity during a
special session set to expire later this month. The primary
objective was to halt the GOP drawn congressional map that
could secure five additional US House seats for Republicans in
the 2026 midterm elections. All right. So normally, the redistricting happens
after the census, which is scheduled for 2030, I believe.
So the fact that the Republicans are looking
to do redistricting now, it is early, clearly.
But I don't know if there's any kind
of historical precedent for this.
Can you actually speak to this?
Yeah, I can't name the exact instances, but it's not unprecedented
and it's not federally prohibited.
It's unusual. It's unorthodox.
And this is kind of what they're standing on right now.
But certainly when, you know, in my experience and what I've read about
when there's a huge population shift, which there has been in Texas,
especially since 2020, we're talking about the pandemic, we're talking
about people fleeing blue states like New York and California
primarily and heading to Texas. This is obviously something that
would be advantageous for you know, the Republican Party,
they're looking, they see that there's a lot more red that
there was before. And, and quite frankly, if we're talking about
a, you know, a Democratic Republic, then the people who
live there should be represented fairly by their congressional map.
And that's what they're going for.
2030 is quite a long ways away, and they want to give the people their proper representation
in Congress.
So.
There's a lot of argument that I hear from the Democrats that are like, oh, well, this
is not right.
There shouldn't be gerrymandering.
And gerrymandering is so bad in such a big deal.
But yet gerrymandering has been the norm literally since this third president, right?
Madison's vice president is not forget his last name was Jerry.
And that's where the term gerrymandering comes from.
This is something that the Democrats have actually mastered
and they've really squeezed as much of the juice
out of the process of gerrymandering as they possibly can.
So this is a reaction to a change in the demographic
or in the population by the Republicans.
And the Democrats are really in a position where they can't do anything about it. Isn't that the case? That is the case.
And unfortunately, they their hands are tied because they know that the maps
are going to be drawn against them because that's who lives in the state.
Now, it's extremely hypocritical if you look at any blue state map.
Illinois is a great example of gerrymandering gone crazy.
New York is another great example.
Why would Jerry Nadler's district be in South Brooklyn
and then also on the Upper West Side?
It's kind of wild, but they know what they're doing.
So for them to come out and say,
this is unconstitutional and this is wrong,
it's like, we need to remember who the pot is
and who the kettle is in this situation.
And it is how it's been done, as you said, you know,
for quite a long time, you know, and it's part of the game.
Is it fair?
I mean, I think that we can all look at times, you know,
depending on your own political stripes
where you would say that's not fair, absolutely,
because it's gonna work against me.
But at the end of the day, and I think that even when,
you know, as a conservative, even when I'm in the defensive and I see that there's a lot of
blue people, you see a state like New York, it's sad that it's become what it's
become, but it is there.
They they have that representation.
They have the voters to support that kind of thing.
And Texas has the same thing now.
And to be fair, it's not that just the Democrats have gerrymandered, you know,
districts. It's something that the Republicans have done as well,
which is part of the reason why I think it stems
from the fact that, you know, it is such a foundational piece
of American politics, the fact that changing the district
to better produce the results that you want, you know,
you want to see is something that has been happening
for almost as long as we've had the Republic.
I mean, what do you think, Shane,
do you think this is something that we can actually expect
the reasonable discourse over?
Is it gonna be just people running around
with their heads on fire?
Reasonable discourse?
I'm asking?
With these people?
I'm asking.
No, no, they're screeching because they're not in power,
and I think they have to yield this power right now. I
think Texas is was is turning purple. It might be purple,
right? Like, so they do what they have to do. You're talking
about New York, my old state. Those people in upstate New
York are not represented. You know, the city changes the
entire vote. So it feels like when you're living there on
upstate New York, or anything north of the city, there's
pockets of blue here and there. But it's completely wasted. Your vote means nothing,
because New York City ruins it. But yeah, it's another victim of redistricting and everything.
So I don't reasonable discourse. I don't think you can expect anything reasonable from the left
and the right to some degree as well. Because right now we're like Hokel is literally calling
this a war. You know, she's using that kind of language. So, you know, I'm not surprised that they're going to act this way. That's what they do when they're freaking out.
I mean, she's right. I mean, you got to play the game. I mean, like the GOP, like you look at North
Carolina, that's probably like one of the worst examples of gerrymandering in the country. And
that was us. That was the GOP. But it's like, yeah, you got to play the game. Because if you put your
tools down, they're not. And they feel the other the same the other way around. It's pretty, pretty
annoying seeing some Republicans that are like, guys. We're the party of principles
We can't we can't we can't fall into this trap principles like we're gonna principle our way into the structure
It's lose period
I mean if you're if you're too principled to play the game that's being played
You will lose the people that want to be left alone
that's being played, you will lose. The people that wanna be left alone will lose
to the people that want to actually exercise power
every single time.
And I see it all the time, especially, you know,
as a reformed libertarian, you know,
like the libertarians love to say, well, you know,
I'm a libertarian and you don't do that, you know,
we don't use the government for this
and we don't use the government for that.
And I would love if that were the reality that we live in.
But we don't live in that reality. We live in the world where if you don't use the government for that. And I would love if that were the reality that we live in. But we don't live in that reality.
We live in the world where if you don't exercise power,
when you have access to power,
you can guarantee that your political foes
are going to exercise power.
And that is going to possibly destroy your way of life.
And they're not afraid to use that.
Not at all.
They love using that power.
That's why they're screeching so crazy right now,
because they're out of power to some degree. And they will lose they're losing
their minds. They're going to rile up their base to make it
sound like this is this is worse than Pearl Harbor. This is D
Day all over again. And that's the language they constantly use
to scare people.
We put one second we've got this video from from Texas
representative. In one second, here we go.
Being 85 eyes and six n, the motion prevails.
The sergeant at arms and any officers appointed by her are directed to send for all absentees whose attendance is not excused for the purposes of securing and maintaining their attendance under warrant of arrest if necessary until further order of the House.
Members, under the rules, while the House is under a call, any member who wishes to leave the hall must have written permission of the Speaker.
The Chair is providing written permission to be entered in the Journal for each member
registered as present on today's roll call to leave the Chamber and return tomorrow at
1 p.m.
Please return at the appointed time.
Based, yeah.
So the gavel's great.
Gables based on the little Jeopardy bill. It's like clownish. Yeah.
I mean, this is a great example of exercising power when you have it.
If they follow through, of course, you know, it's one thing to say, make remarks from the
the floor of the state house.
It's different to actually have things in motion and actually happening.
But I personally would love to see, you know, the Texas delegate, the Texas representatives that
left, I'd love to see him get arrested. I think it'd be civil.
So it'd be some kind of slap on the wrist. No one's going to
actually spend any time in jail.
Agreed. But they're also going to use it if they're smart. It's
good PR for them. You know, getting arrested now,
politicians getting arrested, the mugshot. It's great PR. I
don't know if it'll that PR will help them in their path the way it helped Trump with
his path his mugshot. But they see that as a way of moving
forward.
Yeah, we had a we had Tony Ortiz on the show today. He
current revolts like a Texas paper exclusively. Oh, yeah,
he's talking about like exactly what you're saying is that,
okay, that's gonna be great for us. But also Trump's the big
boogeyman for them. And so being prosecuted by Trump is
going to be such a play for you if you're-
Yeah, it looks good for your base.
Does this turn into, I mean, does this activate the base
in the same way that Trump's mugshot
activated the conservative base?
I think they've lost a lot of capital in that.
I think that four years ago, yes.
I think during the first Trump administration, yes.
And in fact, they did this four years ago in 2021
over a voting ID law.
And the threats came, it kind of fizzled out.
They returned, they voted, it was over.
I mean, and even then, they got more attention then.
And I remember, I think I was working at Fox then
and we covered it and it was like, ha ha ha,
like these guys like leaving town and camping out
in Illinois or wherever they were.
Yeah, DC.
Yeah.
And you know, they did it before long ago
and like 2003 they did it twice over redistricting.
So this is a card that they know how to play
and I think unfortunately they're not gonna see the return.
I mean, I could be wrong, but I just-
I think you're right.
I think gerrymandering doesn't rile up their base
as much as like abortion does.
Right.
Well, and also like tech,
this is not a good gauge of base
either because the only reason this happens so much in Texas,
this really only happens in Texas,
is because for a quorum, you need two thirds to be present,
where pretty much every other state's half.
So they can pull this card basically
like over if they change the lunchtime or something,
they could crash out.
What does Beto O'Rourke think though?
Someone I really need to hear from.
But eaten Illinois dirt, it seems like. Beto O'Rourke heard that the Democrats I really need to hear from. But eating the Illinois dirt seemed like a taste of that.
Beto O'Rourke heard that the Democrats were running
and he's like, oh, I'm running too.
Yeah, he's in it, man.
He's eating the dirt up in Chicago,
it's got casings in it.
He was dying to do anything at all to be a public figure.
He tried everything, Senate, state rep,
and he lost everything.
And I can't believe it.
Well, he won the first time.
I mean, he was in Congress and he gave that up.
His ambitions got too big.
They gave David Hogg more power than they gave Bill O'Rourke.
They did, didn't they?
Brutal.
Brutal.
You've seen a lot of white people pretend to be black,
but when have you ever seen a white person
LARP as Hispanic?
I mean, Alec Baldwin's wife and then.
Yeah, yeah, Hilario, yeah.
And that's it.
That's like the two big ones.
Ito. Ito, yeah. Ito. With ICE, it, yeah, hilarious. Yeah, that's it. That's like the two big ones
The ice it's tougher these days
More dangerous No, my name's Robert. Sorry. I don't know what you're talking about, man
Why don't we go to the story?
Kathy Hochul says that New York is exploring every option to redraw our state congressional lines to counteract Texas's new map. New York Governor Kathy Hochul hosted Texas Democrat lawmakers at the
state Capitol on Wednesday after the lawmakers fled their state in order to
deny Republican lawmakers the quorum needed to pass a redistricting proposal.
During her speech Hochul said that she and other New York lawmakers were
exploring options to conduct redistricting in the state to counteract redistricting in Texas. I have
a news flash for Republicans in Texas. This is no longer the Wild West. We're
not going to tolerate our democracy being stolen in a modern-day
stagecoast by a bunch of law-breaking cowboys. This is that, she's just laying it on thick there.
Americans don't want a system that's stacked against them.
They believe in fairness.
It's fundamental.
And I'll tell you this, they're done with the chaos.
They're done with the cruelty.
And I would say they're ready to vote Republicans
out of power in Washington,
certainly in the upcoming 2026 elections.
Are you sure about that, Kat?
Circle the wagons.
I know, I'm surprised she didn't go there.
It's funny because up until she says
to vote out Republicans,
it sounds like she's describing the Trump base, right?
I mean, it actually exactly describes like what happened
and why Trump came into power in the first place
because people do feel like they're disenfranchised.
People do feel like they're not being listened to.
And that's exactly why this is the way that it is. And this lady is a psychopath. Let's see. I fled
New York as she was in a church saying, we need you to be our apostles. Let's see what she has to say.
I have news flash for Republicans in Texas. This is no longer the Wild West. We're not going to
tolerate our democracy being
stolen in modern day stagecoach hoist
by a bunch of law-breaking cowboys.
Yeah.
Making us sound awesome.
Americans don't want a system that's stacked against them.
They believe in fairness. It's fundamental.
No, we don't. It's America.
I'll say this, they're done with the chaos.
They're done with the cruelty.
I would say they're ready to vote Republicans
out of power in Washington,
certainly in the upcoming 2026 elections.
All right, so this is four minutes long.
They've seen the polls.
They made her in the same laboratory they made Pelosi.
It's just like a newer version.
I never realized that it looked so witchy similar.
Americans care about.
She's like Westworld, she's just like the newer model.
Exactly.
They do this thing where they have like a LARP,
like their working class. So the speech writer They do this thing where they have like a LARP, like their working class.
So the speech writer is like so obnoxious.
Like, oh yeah, this is how people talk, like out in the country.
And it's like the worst.
And then the worst is in the Republican side
when they make all the guys try to emulate Trump.
Like they did with DeSantis is they would like,
because Trump, you know, he'd say,
like I'm going to rough them up.
And everyone's like, yeah.
And then they had DeSantis come out.
And they're like, we're going to slit their throats.
And everyone's like, whoa, dude, what is wrong with you?
You're the same thing.
You're like, we're a bunch of swashbuckling cowboys.
Yeah, that sounds sick.
He talks about engines in the next part.
We're going to scalp them.
Whoa, dude, cowboys and Indians.
The only person who can pull this off is Trump, though.
Nobody can exactly explain why.
It's like, why is Ricky Gervais the only person who
can make age jokes work?
Like, nobody knows. It's the same thing. Like, only Trump can talk explain why. It's like, why is Ricky Gervais the only person who can make age jokes work? Like, nobody knows.
It's the same thing.
Like, only Trump can talk like this.
Everybody else sounds masochistic and terrifying.
That's creepy.
And she's like, Americans care about fairness?
I'm like, are you new here?
This is a country of temporarily and various millionaires.
I will switch up on everyone if it means a million dollars.
Are you kidding me?
Fairness?
Get out of here.
I mean, that's the argument that I make all the time. Like, Americans care about like kitchen table issues.
They care about, can I pay my bills?
Can I afford to get my kids into the school
that I wanted to go in?
Like, everybody cares about their wallet.
And everything else that they say they care about
is tertiary to their wallet.
Even now, with Gen X being favorable to socialist policies,
they're not favorable to their wallet. Even now, with Gen X being favorable to socialist policies,
they're not favorable to actual communism because they don't conceptualize actual communism.
They think, I'm gonna get free stuff
and that's good because I can't afford to pay my bills.
If the average Gen Z person had a hundred grand in the bank
now, they wouldn't feel that way, right?
Like they wouldn't feel like, oh, I'm favorable to,
you know, confiscatory tax policy,
because they'd be like, that's gonna take my stuff.
And so the idea that it's it's it's somehow baked into
young people to actually want a socialist president or socialist
policies. No, they want to be able to pay their bills. They
want to feel like they can afford to live. They want to be
able to pay their rent. And now, because of the past 15 years
since the economic crisis, because of the way that the
federal government
and the Federal Reserve has been handling monetary policy, because of those things,
it's coming down on Gen Z. They're the ones that are paying for it. And it's something
that, again, I'm a reform libertarian, but back in the day, I was the guy that was screaming
about this is going to come back to bite America in the ass
This is going to be a massive problem. And now it is. Mm-hmm. I think the younger crowd
subconsciously embraces
Capitalism while trying to embrace a false idea of socialism communism, you know
Cuz they're out there protesting with all their technology that they can they can afford and do the things they think they can do at
Home like their poetry books, but they don't understand the end game for socialism, communism, feeding
off of them, owning them, you know, turning them into slaves.
They see this false idea of a paradise that they've been lied to about.
I agree with you.
And I think that a lot of it is a lack of understanding and a lack of just intellect
about what capitalism, what socialism is,
what Marxism is.
But more than that, they've kind of conditioned
to be comfortable.
And I've heard you guys talk about this
on the show for weeks now.
There's just a lack of interest in bettering yourself.
So this idea of getting free stuff is just kind of
tacking onto the fact that I can live on the bare minimum,
whatever that is, and I'll just take whatever is free
and I'll learn to live with it and I'll learn to live with it.
I'll learn to live with 16 dudes
and I'll just never have kids
and I'll never save anybody and that's fine with me.
And there's this mentality,
and I don't even think it's limited to gen Z or gen alpha.
I mean, I think that there's people in my age group
who are suffering through this too.
So I'm not really sure what the solution is,
but they have them, like people like Huckle
have them right where they want them.
You know, they're ready for the free stuff without actually
putting too much thought into what it means.
Yeah, I mean, most of the time people
don't associate the free stuff with all of the strings
that are attached.
But nothing that comes from the government
comes without strings.
And you can actually see it the way
that the government treats the federal government
treats the states, right?
So you get states that have all this federal money
for say roads, right?
For interstate systems.
Well, to get that money, you have to do things
that whatever administration is in power says.
And there's the generalized ones,
like you have to have your alcohol sales,
the age limit has to be 21, it can't be lower. And if you lower it, the age limit has to be 21.
It can't be lower.
And if you lower it, the federal government
will stop giving you money for roads, right?
Like that was the way that they got nationwide,
21 is the age for the drinking age, right?
But there's other things that depend
on who the actual president is.
And Donald Trump is doing this all the time.
Whether or not you like these policies or whatever,
Donald Trump adds strings to federal funding all the time.
So the idea that you get anything for free is,
it's a mirage.
There's always strings attached
and the government's always gonna be like,
you have to do this if you wanna get this.
In fact, the Treasury Department right now
accepts PayPal and Venmo if anyone has any extra cash yeah for some reason that
you want to help with the national debt send it their way I'm sure you don't
need it that's that'd be kind of that's actually kind of base I'm gonna do that
get a right get a head start on my taxes never get anything you don't ask for
that's not a head start on your taxes this is just a gift to the government
oh yeah I love the government yeah yeah, yeah. He's tax deductible.
I think with Zoomers, it's just, because I'm a Zoomer,
we're just so nihilistic about how broken everything is,
that it's like you kind of have to have a radical ideology.
It's like being a moderate, it's so gay.
It's boomer coded.
Well, it's like it's boomer coded,
and it's like, so you're hanging out with other Zoomers,
and you're like, oh, you're like a paleo Marxist Leninist.
Oh, I'm like a radical like monarchist.
You'd like, tell me what your thing,
like what's your radical ideology?
So we're all in lists, that's the problem.
It's all the Zoomerwaffen.
Yeah, that's what it is.
So yeah, we're all in lists now.
I think we're all just waiting for like
the political flags, right?
So like we can like add ourselves
to like stripes and letters and yeah.
I mean, the problem with the demand for radical politics
is there's real world consequences that honestly,
they don't, you know, this is boring.
Like that they don't think about, right?
Like, you know, there's,
it's not like radical politics are actually new.
There's no radical politics.
There's old politics that are radical now
that people are talking about,
which is whether it be the, again, the Zoomer Waffen
or whether you're talking about the actual communists,
you know, the Marxist Leninists and stuff.
That's radical, but it's not new.
It's just, it's stuff that's been tried before
and hasn't produced positive results and and a whole few
Generations learned during the summer of love that violence and burning down cities does have results
For in their favor. Yeah, you know and like you're like well or vice president could donate money for your for your bail
How does it actually work in their favor to those people?
Maybe temporarily they because I don't think that I would say that they didn't get anything
Did those people actually? Maybe temporarily.
Because I don't think that, I would say that they didn't get anything actually beneficial
out of it.
Maybe they didn't have to go to jail and pay like the price that you'd expect for being
violent.
You mean personally they got anything or societally?
Either one.
Because I feel like their society for a bit of time bent over for them.
They also-
Corporations did, like everyone-
So they got a sugar high.
Yeah, yeah, like I don't think it was a, there was a longevity to it,
but they got what they wanted, but it didn't last. I think there was.
I think they had from their perspective,
they advanced the football because they pushed the Democrat party in a more
radical and radical way. I mean, okay. Yeah.
Society reeled back with the Trump election,
but the Democrat parties forever changed because of 2020. Yeah. I mean,
all the politicians, I mean,
we had politicians crying at George Floyd's funeral over with his gold casket
We had the NBA doing their thing for like everyone kind of bent over anywhere either
It's like the Democrat Party that is still if anything the base is actually mad that they're not radical enough
So then maybe so maybe now's a good time to go on to this story here from the post millennial
Elizabeth Warren confirms Oh Ron mem Donnie's message is the Democratic message
Elizabeth Warren confirms Zohran Mamdani's message is the Democratic message. Senator Elizabeth Warren joined New York City mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani on Wednesday
saying that the Canada socialist platform is the Democratic message.
When someone stands up and says, I will lead this city by making it more affordable and
here are my plans, real plans, plans to deliver on childcare, plans to deliver on
housing plans to deliver.
We're gonna experiment.
We're going to try things on groceries.
That is the democratic message.
Warren joined Mom Donnie at the DC 37 union building to express support for his universal
childcare proposal per the New York Post.
For me, New York City is the place to start the
conversation for Democrats on how affordability is the central issue, the
central reason to be a Democrat, and that delivering on it in meaningful,
tangible ways that will touch working families is why we're here. See, whether
or not you read people want to admit it, the idea of affordability is something
that's going to resonate with young people because they can't afford stuff now. So even
though this is the the policies that he's actually talking about are horrible,
they're all policies that will take New York
backwards. They're gonna destroy investment. They're going to probably
destroy people's ability to actually get food.
If you have municipal grocery stores,
they're going to end up with empty shelves
because there's other places where you can get eggs.
They're not going to be able to compete
and they're going to have to try to affect
the other grocery stores to be able to compete.
These are all, the policies like rent
control are terrible, they end up making the places that people
have rent control, they make those places into slums, because
nobody wants to invest to fix those places when things break
down. They're they're all destructive policies. But when
they're sold to the electorate as this is to make things more
affordable, and the electorate as this is to make things more affordable and the electorate
cannot afford things, they're going to say, yeah, that's a good deal for me.
I mean.
I agree.
These people like AOC, they don't even want you to work.
This just reminded me of that time.
Was it Amazon moving into her district and she voted it away?
Yeah.
That was going to bring in a ton of jobs, but this will be more appealing.
I'm sure there were people who were very mad about that
in that district.
Yeah, people in her district.
They were yelling at her, right?
They were pissed.
Yeah, yeah.
Here's the, oh sorry.
No, no, no, go for it.
No, but here's the thing, and I truly predict,
and having lived in New York many, many years at this point
and seen so many of these policies actually come into play,
I think a lot of people are predicting,
oh, if he wins, everyone's going to leave.
Well, first of all, most everybody who's going to leave
already left.
Like, most people who, anybody who's still there
has to be there.
I mean, that's the only reason for it at this point.
I generally think these policies are harmful.
And anybody who lives in New York long enough
is going to realize that they're not
going to get anything for free.
They're not going to be able to overcome the incredible rent
problem that they already have
in New York. And I'm sorry, but $15 an hour is not a living wage. So I'm not sure like what world you
live in. And coming from the restaurant industry 15 years and most of it in New York, that was
extremely harmful. And the result was that most people lost their jobs. Not that they actually
were able to afford their rent. Some of the waitresses in Manhattan do all right. And now
with the tips maybe you know
I wonder how the tips are going to help them except they don't because there's only half of the one the amount that they used
To be and they don't get tipped because the service is terrible because there's not enough people on the floor because they have to pay people
Benefits they have to pay people these exorbitant minimum wages restaurants operate on this like sliver margin
I mean I knew people who were working in restaurants and hotels and those hotels were taken to given to illegals.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Like they lost their jobs and these guys got debit cards.
Most of the restaurants that I worked for in New York
lost their property because of that.
They were all in hotels.
It was Danny Meyer, this is very famous.
He had Milino and Marta and the Redwood Hotel
and the Gramercy Park Hotel.
And both of those restaurants are gone because of that.
Not because of the pandemic,
but because of migrants in the hotels.
Insane.
So these are what the policies actually cause.
Yeah, and I can't wait for when,
not that I want, because Trump's the guy,
he should be Caesar, back to the route of policies.
But when Trump's out of the way,
I can't wait for the knife fight in the Democrat party
between the DSA and the old stock Democrats, so to speak,
because I mean, there's gonna be one side has all the money
and then the other side has all the passion,
and it's gonna be so fun watching this.
I mean, it's gonna be delicious.
So Ellie, back to that point that you were making
about the businesses leaving,
do you foresee if Mamdani does win
and it's looking like he's going to,
do you foresee New York becoming like Detroit?
Is it possible for New York City
to be hollowed out like that?
Because I can imagine, you know, a lot of people,
I know you made the argument that, you know,
the people that can leave have already left.
I don't know that I believe that.
I think there are a lot of people that wanted to pay more
because it made them feel good.
A lot of wealthy people, you know, on the Upper East and West Side that wanted to pay more because it made them feel good.
A lot of wealthy people, you know,
on the Upper East and West Side that had,
that have nice apartments around Central Park and stuff,
or nice condos, and those people,
if the government starts actually going after their,
their, you know, their savings, saying, you know,
you've got this unrealized gain,
unrealized or taxes on unrealized gains or whatever.
I think that those people will be like,
okay, now this is too much for me
and they might start leaving.
And do you foresee a possibility?
It's possible.
I think that it's hard to compare it to Detroit,
which really lost its soul because of the death
of the American made automotive industry.
So that really is kind of difficult to compare.
I think the more- Couldn't you conceptualize
like the financial industry saying,
you know what, I don't need to,
we don't need to be here? That would take so much more than,
I think much more likely in this scenario-
They don't have factories.
Much more likely in this scenario
is that they're gonna elect Mondami
and then they're going to realize what they've done.
And the buyer's remorse is going to result
in a massive pendulum swing long before he has the chance
to rot that city to its
core. People understand that New York is New York. It's the
heart and soul of media. It's the heart and soul of you know,
news and politics.
But if it's young people that don't have any money, and don't
have anything to lose. Are there enough older people with money
and with things to lose that would vote against those people
to say, okay, we actually have enough influence.
You think there's enough?
I think that the young people are going to lose interest in this.
I think that the worst thing that could happen to the Democratic Party right now is Zohan
Mondani.
I think that him winning this election is going to show everybody exactly what they're
playing with.
It's going to reveal every card that they've been trying to use
and it's gonna be an enormous problem for them.
New York City also has like a really transitory population.
So the under 35 crowd right now,
completely different from what the under 35 crowd
was 20 years ago.
So the amount of cultural changes that are gonna occur
with young people in New York City,
the next five, 10 years when that churn happens.
I mean, like I think the average New Yorker that's,
I saw a stat and it was the average New Yorker
under 35 lives there for like four and a half years.
It's like the Zoran voters can be gone in five years anyway.
I also feel like New York City is capable of dying
coming back, like I think how it was in the 70s.
It was a war zone.
More times than that.
Way more times than that.
So there's always, I think, hope for that place.
Maybe Trump will be mayor after all this.
I spend so much time complaining about it, in think, hope for that place. Maybe Trump will be mayor after all this. I spend so much time complaining about it in print,
not in podcasts and stuff.
And it's like, I could live there again.
I like it.
I mean, it is what it is.
It's New York.
I have no interest in going to Detroit.
I'm sorry if anybody's like I am.
Detroit could be awesome.
Chicago's staying on its feet,
even with two back-to-back, full-blown communist,
low-acute people running the city.
They got rid of What's Her Face and then got the some people. Yeah, They got rid of, you know, what's her face?
And then got the some people.
Yeah, they got rid of Beetlejuice and brought in.
Oh, if the city, if New York City descends into violence more,
that might make people move.
Do you think?
Yeah, I think that's the, that's really the thing is the safety issue.
And most of the people that I know who left during the pandemic,
I know a lot of people who were, you know, conservative media who left,
but more specifically people left because they had kids and they were just afraid
that this was not a good place to have them anymore.
Oh yeah.
We were getting threatened to have our heads chopped off on the subways with our babies
trolling.
Not targeted.
From Brooklyn to Harlem.
People just running around with machetes threatening to chop your head off.
Yeah, a few times.
But even then, the suburbs in and around, like Connecticut, New Jersey, still growing
a lot.
So it's like, even the suburbs in and around New York City are still dependent on New York
City.
So even if there's a capital flight from New York City itself, a lot of that will just land in Westchester, Bergen.
It would have to be a generation of Marxist communism in that city to get to the point
that you described. I mean, I think it is on the table, but I predict that it'll self-correct
long before that. I mean, we're seeing, yeah, I mean, we're seeing now where San Francisco had
much more sensitive industry
and now they're kind of coming to their senses a little bit.
They're electing more moderate candidates.
And it's like, and they're gonna probably be fine
to some degree, cause this is America
and there's just a lot of capital in America.
It would take a lot to end up in a Detroit situation
for a city of the magnitude of New York city.
So it's gonna, yeah, probably like you said,
you probably will, the New York Post is gonna have
some really good headlines the next two years,
two to three years.
Oh yeah, my favorite New York Post headline from the city
is headless body in a topless bar.
That's a great one.
That's really good.
It's a classic.
Yeah, I know they have a table at the New York Post
and they're just sitting around just like,
bang, did it again, dude.
They do, I mean, that's, yeah, that's not a fantasy. That's legitimately the news. Well they have like there's got to be like one table just in charge of giving a different name
to a criminal every single time. There's headline writers like they literally don't write copy they
just write headlines. In our form. Rabble rousers. It's like they're trying to come up with as many
names as possible. I love that. I mean, look, headlines and what's gonna get a click
is one of the most important currencies
that exist in the online.
On 2025.
I mean, there's a reason this.
I mean, how much?
I don't think the Post is even worried
about headlines or making money.
I think they just wanna perform art.
I think it's just art.
I mean, you are so.
It's all performance.
You're so full of it.
It's a gift to America.
We're losing money. This is for you.
In fairness, they can't be making money on print anymore.
And they're still the number one circulator of actual physical copies.
So it's got to be the art.
It's a room full of patrons.
It's a beautiful thing.
Dude, they literally make money on their web games, right?
On their browser games.
Isn't that where there's stuff you can buy on Play Store? Isn't that where they make money on their way unlike their web games right on like their browser games Isn't that where like there's something you could buy on place or isn't that where is it?
They make most their money. I thought that's what their main most of their money
I don't know but like New York Times probably just a property by wordle at this point. Yeah
Or the Chinese Communist Party, yeah
New York Times is oh, yeah
well
I mean loaded by there's the the the Communist Party in or the New York Times has been
run from them by the Communist Party since the
30s yeah got him some Pulitzers. What was his name that was lying about the Soviet Union? I always forget his name
He went over a tea William Durant William Durant II was over there and yeah didn't write about he basically said there was no fan and happening. Yeah, he's
I've seen the future and it's working or dieting. It's not
It's nutrition it's gonna be great in a hundred years. You're a Pulitzer. Yeah
But I mean, I don't I don't know that I'm as optimistic as you guys about New York City, because I think that the population
is going to end up, like hypothetically,
if Mamdani wins, he institutes these policies,
and then they don't work, and I think that only
radicalizes people more.
Like the most important thing for Donald Trump is to have economic policies that work
Everybody you hear a lot of people making noise about you know about the Epstein list
You hear a lot of people making noise about Israel. You hear a lot of people making noise about oh, there haven't been people arrested yet
He hasn't done enough to clean the swamp blah blah blah blah blah
the reason that he got elected was because
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. The reason that he got elected was because he was going
to do good things for the economy,
and that's what people heard when they said,
we're going to deport illegal immigrants, right?
They elected him because he was going
to deport illegal immigrants,
and people translated that in their heads to,
I will be able to find jobs and better jobs
and more jobs for Americans. It's economics. So if his economic
policies don't pan out, that means that it's likely that
someone like an AOC or like not that he could win because he
wasn't born here, but like Azor on mum, Donny, someone with
those kind of policies could win the presidential election in, you know, 2030 or whatever,
whenever the next one is I forget. But yeah, like, I feel
like the failures of the this particular administration or the
failures of a mum Donnie administration only helped to
feed the radicals. It doesn't mean that people are gonna say no, we have to go back to the ways that
have actually worked, because the young people and people that
that that are upset now don't believe those ways ever worked.
I think okay, going down your path, I see that possibility
because in the left, especially in the younger generations,
widespread nihilism, so a bad economy and suffering
might just make it part of their DNA.
We have to self-sacrifice.
Because people right now, the people that think
that leftist policies are a good idea,
they look at this world that we live in
and they don't see that capitalism is what built it. They
think that it just is. If you talk to a kid that's got favorable opinions of communism
or whatever, he doesn't think, oh, well, communism might be okay, but it's capitalism that's
gotten us here. It's capitalism that's raised Basically everyone on earth out of a abject poverty like they're there in 2030
There will be no one left on the planet that lives on less than a doll like two bucks a day, right?
And it's not socialism that's produced that it's not at all
It's capitalism, but they don't see that and you try to tell them that and they're not hearing it because believe me
I'll get on I'll get on X and I'll argue with anybody and I'll be like, you know
This is what's going on and to hear them talk
They don't understand or they it doesn't
Compute to them that this world that we live in with all this abundance and the fact that you can use your phone to order
Door-dash and have it brought to your house and then pay for it with
Klarna like all that stuff is because of capitalism not that Klarna is a
Terrible answer for DoorDash with Klarna. You have a lot of horrible idea. That's awesome
But the point is like all of that is because of capitalism and they don't understand that they think no
Capitalism is why my life is bad
Capitalism is why things are hard capitalism is is why I don't get to do the
things that I want to do. Even though, like the things that
they want to do don't exist in the absence of capitalism. And
it's something that you see on the left a lot. People on the
left love to produce these memes that say, oh, 50, gorillion
people died of of
of capitalism because they didn't have clean water and
they didn't have medicine and they didn't have food and they
didn't have this and it's like, all of the things you're
talking about, they don't get without capitalism. And they
just assume that medicine and technological advances and all
of this stuff happens in the absence
of capitalism and it doesn't so I don't know that they understand the world they
live in the foundation is markets and liberty it's been on purpose that's why
not why things like the Cultural Revolution have to destroy history so
they can rebuild you you're born again into this fake religion of Marxism to
destroy to rebuild this utopia.
And like it's not to say that capitalism has massive flaws, like massive flaws, but it's
still right now what we got.
And when I'm like, that's what I'm, what you're saying is that's exactly what I mean
by subconsciously embracing capitalism.
They're taking part in all of it, but they've been force fed this idea of like no family,
no real work, no legacy, no beauty.
So they're suffering as part of their policy.
But it's like too, it's like we've, I mean, the right has invested so much money and time
into like media promoting capitalism and free markets for the last 50 years.
And like there's been pretty much no fruit.
And then Trump comes along.
I don't even know if he's ever mentioned the word capitalism once.
He's just like, we're going to make deals. It's going to be great. Like we're going to have a
huge building in New York with my name on it. That's what people want to hear. People want like,
you know how they get, I don't think he's ever explained like Keynesian model before in his
entire life. He's like, he's just, he wants to make a deal. And that it's like young people just need
to believe. And if you get really into the weeds on this, like Zoran isn't getting up there explaining
like Mark that people are going through his website
and looking at all his policies.
They're like, brain's working.
They're like, why is it?
This doesn't even work.
This doesn't compute.
It's like, cause it doesn't matter.
It's about the vibes.
You have to sell, Americans are a vibes based people.
You have to sell the vibe.
So the right can't like over correct
and start getting really into like economics textbooks
and stuff.
Cause that's what like, you know,
not going to say names they've been doing for years
and it's not working.
So then if vibes are how you sell people on something,
how do you make young people understand?
Trump's done it, Trump's done it.
So, I mean, Trump crushes with young men
because it's awesome.
No, I know, I know, I'm gonna push back on that.
Trump crushes with young men
because the Democrats hate young men.
Look, if Trump wasn't the only option,
I don't think Trump would be as popular with young men.
The option is Donald Trump or we hate you and hope you die.
No, because when Trump's not on the ballot, Republicans do terribly,
because I think young men love Trump
I mean they hate Democrats because they like you said they are they stay home
HR but like
Trump just provides something that just connects like I've never found an eight-year-old man relatable in my entire life until Donald Trump
I agree with you and I think that if you look at the last election results
It's clear that I mean Trump didn't win the popular popular vote and the electoral college because the Democrats screwed up so badly. I mean, he, they did, but he
also won because he had a message that resonated. There was more, there was a little bit of
column A and a lot of column B. But I think it's really important. You said something
that I really want to go back to, which is the religion of socialism and Marxism. And
that is what's working so well for the left right now,
is they've created this sort of cult vibe
and it's very, very attractive.
It's the same thing, you know,
the trans flag with all the colors,
you can be in our club, you're in the cult,
you can wave the colors, you can wear the badge,
you've got this, and that is very difficult to break into.
And it's the same problem that Europe is dealing with,
with having extremists living in their and you know in their countries and
having neighborhoods that are just been taken over you can't
compete with the ideology the ideology is strong so I'm not
sure what the answer is there calling it a religion is really
hitting the nail on the head look it gives P. if you are a
young.
You know say you're young white guy right and you've been told
all your life you since you were little you've heard even if even if you're not told, you just hear, right?
Just you live in this society where you hear,
white men are bad, men are bad, boys are toxic,
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And then you find out that if you just like guys,
or if you decide that you want to be a woman,
you can, and it's literally a way out for you.
And you just have to swallow the ideology whole.
It's, I can imagine that it is incredibly attractive
for people that are awkward,
that can't find their way in life, and, in, in, in life. And at a time
when you're going through puberty, you're about to go through puberty,
if you're not the most masculine dude, if you're not a, you know, a dude that's able to assert
himself, that doesn't feel like he's a winner, which I mean, when you're a teenager who does, you know, that kind of ideology, that possible way out
is incredibly attractive.
It's crazy to see how that ideology is spread
to just beyond the young group,
because there's parents who are willing
to sacrifice their children for that,
like to mutilate your child.
Mostly women. That's a death cult.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but there's guys too,
you know, effeminate dudes. That's well well the dudes end up joining and being a part of
it I mean look at the Kardashians you know Jenner you know Caitlyn Jenner you
say Bruce you can say Bruce Bruce whatever you know Bruce like he he won
at life won gold medal it was on the week he was the guy on the Wheaties box.
Right.
And then he's like, my daughters are hotter than me.
Yeah.
He's like, you actually seen there's like,
I never watched the Kardashians.
But have you actually seen the clip
where he is explaining to his daughters
that he's going to become a woman?
And like, they're hysterical.
Like, and not in a good way.
I mean, it's a really sad scene.
I mean, and now you have to think about this. He's
been Caitlyn Jenner now for a long time, but before that, you
know, he was Bruce and he was this Olympian and he was, like
you said, winning at life. But this was something that was so
difficult for his family. And it just, I mean, my immediate
thought was like, who's helping this man? Like, there's just, I
mean, it's just such a sad thing that like, clearly, he's just
going through it and like
destroying his family to get to that end and you know
That family has good access to plastic surgeons. Yeah
So well for Bruce the other three are like clone new version take it back into the garage, wrench on a little more. Chris Jenner looks great. All right, there's no, that's just an objective truth.
It is like the undercurrent of left-wing thought
is it's an attack on beauty.
And like, for example, if you're a young person,
what is more beautiful than having a child
extending your bloodline?
So of course they're gonna try
and push homosexuality onto you
because it nukes your bloodline.
Saying you think it's transgenuos,
you're taking Bruce Jenner,
I'm not gonna call him beautiful but you're taking a specimen right a
physical specimen this is peak human performance and to rip them down and
destroy them and you know hot swap and weld on some you know skin on it yeah
and he's got like a grenade blast on his arm I mean what is more horrifying than
that and that's what they're trying to push they're trying to destroy something
that's the pinnacle of humanity that's an Olympian and that's what they're trying to push. They're trying to destroy something that's the pinnacle of humanity, which is an Olympian.
And that's how they redefine beauty, because to them,
that's beauty.
I don't think they're even trying to redefine beauty.
I think they're trying to normalize ugly.
Yeah, raise ugliness.
You see it everywhere.
You go to Boston, you see their city hall.
That's not, they're not, the only thing is beautiful.
They know it's hideous, and they're like, in your face.
Once you do these surgeries on people,
you take away their ability to change their mind
because now they've become lifelong patients
where they're gonna have to constantly address this
and you can't undo it.
I mean, and you listen to these just harrowing stories
from like D-transitioners about like what they've gone
through and the type of support they got
from people who swore a Hippocratic oath to do no harm
and did exactly that.
I mean, it's really.
To your point, one of the things the left talks about,
you hear the phrase center the margins, right?
And they say that the people on the margins
should be made the center.
That doesn't work for society at all, right?
Like you have to have a society that focuses
on the majority of the people and says,
this is how we're going to have
our society organized and if you want to live
on the margins, that's acceptable.
In a society like ours, we can make room for people
to live on the margins, but that doesn't mean
that we have to center them.
All government policy should focus on families, normal,
and I'm using the term normal intentionally,
normal men and women married together having kids,
hopefully three, you know?
Because that's what's normal,
and that's what you need to reproduce your society.
And the idea that it is good for the
government to promote things that will not help produce more
of the society is ridiculous. It's literally counterproductive
to the society. Like, why are you going to say, oh, we're
going to make special accommodations for trans people for gay people for non binary people, whatever, we're gonna make special accommodations for trans people for gay people for non-binary people
Whatever we're gonna make special special accommodations and center those people in our policymaking
When those people are not going to reproduce the society, right? They're just not gonna do it
I mean, it's it's the most counterproductive thing a government can do is to say we're gonna take the people on the
Margins and center them know
You've sent her you focus on the people in the center and make sure that normal families again using the phrase
normal intentionally because normal means man woman kids
because normal means man, woman, kids, normal families
have what they need to be successful. And that being the idea that that's a hateful perspective,
which is what, I mean, there are people that will clip this
or would clip this and say,
Phil is a bigot for saying that.
I don't care if you're gonna call me a bigot
for saying that normal people are normal.
But normal, the word normal has a meaning. And that's what the government should be focusing
on, on doing its best to hold up and support. And if you live on, if you want to have a life
that's on the margins, it's okay. There's nothing, there's nothing that, that is going to, we're
going to stop you. But you don't get to be the center of attention.
You can be on the margins,
you can have your friend group and whatever,
but the government is gonna look at people that are normal
and say, this is what we want to see more of,
because this is what produces more people at the,
even if only for the fact that it produces more tax base.
But no.
Attacking the normal and embracing the fringe
is how they collapse a society.
Yes. Which is what they want. So they can flood it with their insanity. Yeah. I mean, I think,
I don't know, I think gays are like probably better off if they're on the fringe because
that's when like you think like the seventies and eighties, like they're making good music,
like there's good art coming out. And then we like put them in the center and you get like
RuPaul's drag race or whatever. Barack Obama. You get Obama. I mean, it's like, it sucks. It's like,
I don't know, maybe like,
I don't even know if they're happy being in the middle
of everything.
They may have overshot it when they realized
like the 25 year old Republican man
is like the punk rock version.
Yeah.
25.
Yeah.
Like the coolest gay guy in the last 30 years
is like George Santos.
He was like a rock star.
Yeah, now he's getting street cred.
Yeah.
Oh yeah, he's a gangster.
Too much time in jail.
He's got a lot of fans.
Yeah.
Sweaters is tough. Sweater is the new, like, yeah, the's a gang too much too much time in jail. Yeah sweaters is tough
Sweater is the new like yeah, the new like orange jumpsuit
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Benjamin Netanyahu has decided off on full occupation of the Gaza Strip reports. This is from Newsweek
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's decided that the Israeli Defense Force should push to fully occupy the besieged Gaza Strip, including operating in areas where hostages are being held, according to multiple media reports.
The Prime Minister's Office also conveyed a message to Lieutenant General Eyal Zameer,
the Army's Chief of Staff, saying, if this does not suit him, you should resign, according
to Euronews and I-24's diplomatic
correspondent Amichai Stein.
Newsweek reached out to Netanyahu's office for comment via email on Monday.
Israeli media reported that the cabinet will meet on Tuesday to come to a formal decision
on the matter.
The Israeli prime minister's reported decision comes after months of ceasefire talks between his government and Hamas with both sides accusing each other of repeated violations.
Israel has also faced increased international pressure to reach a ceasefire deal as Hamas
releases videos showing emaciated Israeli hostages being held in Gaza, which the group
said was the result of Israel's blockade of humanitarian aid to the war torn territory.
This is something that has been kind of
obvious that it was going to happen. I don't know what people
thought, or you know, if people thought that there was another
option, Israel is not going to allow Hamas to remain as the
government. If there were an election, and in Gaza, Hamas would win still.
So I feel like this is, there are people
that are gonna be up in arms about it,
but I feel like this was kind of the,
this was going to be the obvious end result anyways.
Israel's gonna occupy that for at least five years
to a decade.
Well, maybe, but I think that more importantly,
this is very symbolic in that it signals that there's
an agreement between Netanyahu and President Trump that he will be, Netanyahu and Israel
will be supported in this maneuver.
So there are, first of all, Hamas has unfortunately gotten quite a lot of support from the international
heads of state, including Keir Starmer, including Canada, including
Emmanuel Macron. And it's given them power and confidence that they can continue doing exactly
what they're doing. Starmer made giving Palestine recognition contingent on Israel making
changes to avoid that, made no such threats towards Hamas. Hamas can continue holding hostages,
starving them, splashing that all over the media and doing whatever they're doing to subvert aid
from GHF, from the UN. So there's no way that Hamas is going to stop. They have no reason to.
They have enough international support that they could continue doing this forever. The sad truth
is they could avoid being occupied by Israel. They could avoid being rattled by the United States
by simply releasing the remaining hostages
and stopping this.
It would restore food and aid to their citizens.
Everything would be fine.
They won't do that because they don't actually
care about their own people.
And unfortunately, you're absolutely right.
There is only one power, one governing power in Gaza,
and it is Hamas, a bona fide terrorist
organization. So unfortunately this is necessary. This is exactly what needs to happen. It's not
going to be pretty. It's nice to read it that way. We're going to do it. We're going to get
the hostage. It's going to be great. It's not going to look great. Already Israel is facing this just
It's, you know, already Israel is facing this just enormous, you know, international pressure about this aid.
I've never heard of an aggressed nation having to help the belligerent before, but that's
where we are.
And the United States is there too.
They're obviously the press is terrible for them.
And it's not going to get a ton better with this.
But unfortunately, I think that it's down to the last option.
And it hit times up. There's just no more time left. If the Epstein files are in
Gaza then I support it. I just need to say that for Phil. I don't think either side of this war
cares about their people and I don't want our country to have anything to do with it. I'm so
tired of helping other countries right now. You ireland called for the un to
Possibly go into israel to stop israel ireland ireland my homeland ireland called. Yeah the irish prime minister
Who looks who looks I mean it's like a comedy show. He looks just like a leprechaun
Like when you see it's it's you're a bigot
It's not the first time that
but
Like he looks it looks like you this it's it's hilarious
But they were calling for the UN to go into Israel who makes up the military might of the UN is it's not Ireland
Ireland have planes and tanks no
Ireland is like still LARPing like they're oppressed in 2025.
It's like, bro, the famine was like 300 years ago.
I do have a people laugh so easily at Irish people
as though they weren't committing horrible terrorist
acts just like 30 years ago.
It was pretty recent.
But they weren't doing it to us.
They were blowing up members of the royal family in a rowboat.
Things were really dark for a while.
It was dark in Ireland.
They're capable of a lot.
That said, I don't think they have a lot of equipment.
Yeah, and they're doing the LARPing with the ball of clavos
and everything.
I'm like, your average citizen there works at Microsoft now.
It's like, and you make like double the British salary.
So it's like, all right, cool it, you know,
O'Higgins or whatever his name is.
But still, the idea that the United States should go in,
again, because when you talk about the UN doing anything, what you're really idea that the United States should go in again because when you talk about the UN doing anything what you're
Really saying is the United States because the United States is the is the actual muscle behind the UN
Peacekeepers is not peacekeeping. Yeah majority are from like the Indian subcontinent. Well United States versus the UN is kind of a big deal, right?
I don't think I don't think that he was talking about peacekeepers. That's who would that's who they that's the only option
They would have if the UN were to intervene
It would be hilarious the UN peacekeepers are like the most incompetent military on planet earth like people join just to settle scores
In in Israel like they wouldn't be just
Slaughtering Jews like come on like wait for the rumble and censor
If you like if you look at like if you look at the I mean isn't India where they have like
They they have a fond opinion of Adolf Hitler because he was fighting
the British?
Yeah, they love Hitler, but they also love Israel.
They're very complicated.
Oh, they love Israel too?
Yeah, oh yeah.
You go on Twitter and it'll be like the lion
and it's like Israel's like a cub and then India behind it
like, we got your back.
What part of Twitter you on?
I'm gonna take this moment to do my part here as a representative from the Foundation
for Defense of Democracies and we defend obviously Israel quite a lot as a beleaguered democracy
that they are.
America first is not America alone and I think that it's really important that we continue
to recognize who our democratic allies are.
We have important partners in the Middle East, but no more than Israel.
If we don't help Israel do everything that we can,
and they depend on us to do that, very obviously,
they will be destroyed much sooner than you think.
And it's absolutely imperative for our own homeland security,
our kitchen table issues, that we maintain the safety
and security of our democratic ally in the Middle East.
And I get that, but I stopped caring about other countries
at this point after.
You care about the US?
I do, but that is also a failed country.
Can you outline why?
Can you just unpack why it is that you
say that it's so important for Israel to be,
for the US to support Israel?
And the reason I say this is because there's a lot of people
specifically that are viewers
that aren't particularly friendly to Israel and think along the lines of Shane that the US should
not be worried about foreign countries. Yeah well so first of all you look at Israel on a geopolitical
map that's surrounded by seven fronts depending on the day really that want to destroy them but
before if they get through Israel their next target is Westerners, and specifically the
United States, particularly Iran at this particular moment.
But let's think about the flag of the Houthis down there in Yemen literally says, destroy
Israel and then destroy the US.
That's their state flag.
That's what it says on it.
They are very serious about that.
If Israel no longer exists,
if we no longer have the alliance of the IDF
and of the extreme might and power of that army,
then we have Iran with a nuclear weapon
and they will launch it at us as soon as they're able to.
And they're not the only ones.
What would you say that the people that,
what would you say to people
that would push back on that and say,
the only reason that they hate the United States
is because the United States supports Israel.
It's not.
And if Israel were to be destroyed.
They would just stop?
They would stop.
That's the Osama Bin Laden thinking.
He was shocked when we showed up at Tora Bora
and started blowing up Afghanistan after 9-11.
That's not how it works.
It's the same kind of thinking. They
stop with Israel. You have to understand the ideal. We're going back to extreme ideology.
It's the same thing, only this is a different ideology, different book. But their order
that they believe is that they are supposed to reassure in the caliphate and destroy all
the infidels. That means all the infidels.
It starts with the Jews and it ends with everybody else.
And that includes, by the way, moderate Muslims.
Remember the first place that he attacked,
the first place that Osama bin Laden went to
after he attacked the United States on 9-11
was Saudi Arabia to start bombing Arabs
because they were hosting United States
oil compounds and military in
the country.
That will continue and without our strategic positioning and alliance with the military
might of Israel, then we will be hurt and we will be hurt at home.
First of all, our interests will be destroyed immediately and they will come find us across
the ocean.
Like from my perspective, it seems like we've backed Israel to a tee for the
last 70, 80 years and our relationship with the Muslim world at large has just
gotten consistently worse as every year has passed by.
I would you well I'd push back on that to say that the Abraham Accords are kind of
flying the face of that.
Yes, the one president who's actually done something to change that, to
actually make a radical difference
in the Middle East and for the better,
has been Donald Trump.
And he really, the idea of the Abraham Accords,
the implementation of the Abraham Accords
towards the end of his first term,
was the first giant step into a brand new Middle East
where there was gonna be a lot more peace.
Things obviously slowed down and changed and reversed
over the four years following that.
We're hopefully getting back to something where we can expand the Abraham Accords once again peace, things obviously slowed down and changed and reversed over the four years following that.
We're hopefully getting back to something where we can expand the Abraham Accords once
again and lean into our allies and create better allies.
Peace is the goal.
The goal isn't just throwing money into never ending wars and people who hate us.
The goal is to establish an everlasting peace in the region.
That doesn't mean, you know, nation building.
It doesn't mean us going in like we did in 2003 in Iraq
and starting an entire new country
that obviously was never going to work.
It's got to be us understanding what works,
how we can prop each other up,
where we can understand each other.
And an ally doesn't have to be a perfect friend,
but they do have to be a friend.
My whole thing is I'm 40 now and my whole life
You know when I was born I inherited a world of forever wars and it's been going on
Consistently this whole time and I see my country is getting worse and worse
So I feel like Israel can handle its own for a lot for now and we can focus on our country
So we can try to get the thing back up on its feet
So and to like bounce off what he's saying to is just I don't really know if peace in the Middle East
is like a priority for Americans whatsoever.
So aside from the United States actually attacking
the nuclear sites in Iran,
what has the US done when it comes to Israel?
Like we've given them weapons.
A ton of weapons.
We've given them weapons. Alent of weapons, we've given them weapons.
Allentier gives them their AI, helps with the AI lavender,
which is, I've talked about that at length on the show.
But what, when it comes to like the idea of the US
being actively involved in combat or in war, like.
But you have to think of war as different though.
War is not gonna be the way we think of war from the past.
War now is sending you everything we got.
You know, our missiles, signing our rockets and sending them over there.
You know, like that to me is an issue when we should be like, we're sending war
rockets to Ukraine or sending war and rockets to Israel. We're finding both
sides to some of these wars forever. And I just see our country suffering
deeply and we're in debt. They're asking us to pay them through PayPal and Venmo.
I'm like, how can we be stretching ourselves so thin?
And I understand the idea of having an ally,
but it's been our ally for so many years
and this threat of Iran going to bomb us,
it just doesn't seem to come to fruition.
It always seems to be like a boogeyman.
I think they've been saying, death to America forever.
I understand that, I don't like it,
but I also understand why they're saying it because we also destroyed their country, you know, many
years ago with Kermit Roosevelt going in there and subverting
their entire country. So I understand I don't like it. But
I understand why they say it. I honestly my opinion, I don't
think they are going to do anything. And I also think
they've had nukes for longer than we've probably willing to
admit.
We have other adversaries with nuclear weapons as well. Like
this wouldn't be the first. Yeah, but we don't have another adversary
that's going to hit the red button the second
that it's ready to fire.
And also the United States preventing Iran
from getting nukes isn't just about Iran.
Saudi Arabia doesn't want Iran to have nukes
any more than Israel does.
Yeah.
Qatar doesn't.
And that's, because it's like what would
the incentive possibly be for Iran to nuke the United States? So it's so they don't care. That's
the difference. Like USS, I'm sorry, Russia cares. Russia doesn't want to be destroyed and whatever
like Medvedev said, then the Kremlin came back out and said, nevermind, we actually don't want
thermonuclear war here. Like, please don't reposition your new don't reposition your subs. But that's not the case with Iran.
Iran understands this in a very ideological way.
And these guys really believe this.
This isn't just something that they push out there
for the press, for PR, be like, oh, we're very religious.
We're clerics.
They really actually believe this.
And they actually believe that it's
worth them firing a nuclear weapon at the enemies
with the threat of American might coming at them.
If they're doing what they believe is the will of Allah
what they're supposed to be doing. That's that's what is so
terrifying.
Gen Z really like Iran have Gen Z really doesn't have this have
a sense. And I feel like Gen Z believes things in a similar
fashion to the way that Gen X
believed them before 9-11.
Like we heard about, you know, I'm 50 years old,
so I'm Gen X, right?
And I heard about, you know, religious fundamentalism,
and I knew about the first attack on the World Trade Center,
Ramsey Yousef in 1993, and they were, you know,
they did it for religious reasons.
We didn't really believe that they believed
the things they do believe.
And this is an argument that I have, hold on,
this is an argument that I have with Ian
that I've had multiple times.
Ian, his opinion is people are just people
and they're all the same, and that's not true.
And the way that Gen X believed about,
what Gen X believed about Islamic fundamentalism
is what Gen Z believes about Islamic fundamentalism now.
They don't believe, they actually believe it.
And they really, really believe it.
This isn't, I'm not making an argument about Islam
because if it comes to Islamophobia,
no one's more Islamophobic than me, trust me.
Um, the prob, this is the problem though,
is there's millions and millions of Muslims
pouring into Europe and America,
so it's like, that should be,
if we're trying to go to war with the Muslim world
and Islam at large, Iran's the least of my worries.
I'm worried about the millions of Muslims
that are pouring into France and Germany
and the United States, the United Kingdom.
It's like Iran, it just feels like we're shifting
on the chairs on the Titanic.
I think that's a really fair point.
I mean, you should be worried about that.
And that's not really an Islamophobic point.
The point is that-
It's for me.
The point is that these immigration problems
and unfortunately, despite what's happened
over the last four years
with our border being completely open,
these countries in Europe are facing something
that's catastrophic, especially France,
especially the United Kingdom,
where there's literally parts of the country
that you just can't even go to anymore.
And it's not because they're Muslim,
it's because they're literally extremists
and they were told that it's not a right,
it's not a privilege, you've not a privilege, you deserved this.
Like you are born with the right
to live wherever you wanna live
and you have no reason to assimilate,
you don't have to be French, you don't have to be British,
you can just be extremists.
I mean, those guys, the seven-seven bombers
were born in the United Kingdom.
I mean, this is not just an,
it started with an immigration issue
But it also became it's from this whole push of like Marxism leftism where we don't want to tell anybody that they're not us
Like you don't have to be like us because oh, you know, everybody's okay
It's like but actually that's the problem when people don't want your culture
They will destroy it to bring in their own culture
I guess another issue I have is how you define an ally. Because I understand the barbarism
of some of these other countries.
But Israel is also barbaric in their own way,
in a modern way, where they spy on us.
They've been caught spying on us.
I think that's not good, not a friend.
And if Netanyahu were a governor.
Everybody spies on everybody all the time.
Yeah, I know.
And I don't like it.
And if Netanyahu were a governor in this country,
we would chastise him like we chastise Cuomo or Hokel
or Newsome, because he was as deranged and barbaric
with the vaccine during lockdowns as they were.
And I just think that's completely anti-democratic.
As I'm kind of going back to like,
to be an ally doesn't mean you have to be a perfect friend.
You just have to be a friend.
And certainly we can criticize the politics of Israel.
They're very leftist in many, many ways.
But the fact of the matter is they are still a real
democracy in a place where that just isn't a thing.
And that's very important.
Again, we can tear down Netanyahu.
We can tear down their COVID positions.
We can tear down the fact that they have like the largest
gay pride parade, whatever you want to do, that's fine. I don't need to live there. I don't I
just need to know that I'm safe at home because that country is
safe. Because their military is in place. And that requires us
support both financially and I hear you I just don't feel like
them. Their safety equals our safety here.
So, I mean, enough about well, not enough,, but like back to the kind of the point of it,
the idea that, or what we started with,
the idea of Israel governing the Gaza Strip.
That was the situation up until 2005,
was it, when they pulled out?
Right?
Yeah, 2006.
Hamas versus Fatah, yeah.
Yeah, so Israel was the governing
authority and they pulled not only did they pull the military
out, but they pulled actual Jewish people that had homes in
the Gaza Strip. They pulled them out completely. And that was the
beginning of essentially 20 years of rockets into Israel,
20 years of there were suicide bombings for a while they those chilled out in
the past, you know, the past, I guess 10 years or so. But there
was there that was the was the first in the father was it was
that was the second in the father is in 2006 is when that
started, right? Yes. Yeah. So it like this kind of the idea that
that Israel would go back to that after 20 years of rockets, 20 years of terrorist attacks,
and then October 7th.
I mean, was there a sense from anyone
that Gaza was going to be governed
by the Palestinians again?
Yeah, I think that was the hope.
I mean, I think that a lot of this like ceasefire talk
early on was that this wasn't going to be necessary.
You know, that Hamas would be like, okay, you've killed enough of us like we're done. Here's your hostages back
We're really sorry about October 7th. Like please leave us alone
I think that that was at some point like a true hope that and then we would give power back to the Gazans to like
Bring somebody else in besides Hamas
there was talk of the Palestinian the PL or the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank, but
There was talk of the Palestinian, the PL, or the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank,
but they don't have a whole lot of power.
If I understand correctly, they get murdered
by the Palestinians on the regular.
There's no chance of any kind of fair installment
of power in Gaza right now.
So at this point, time's up, what's the alternative?
There isn't one.
I mean, either that or we just let,
I mean, Israel just lays down and says,
all right, kill the rest of the hostages and just keep bombing us, I guess. I mean, that's we just let them in Israel just lays down and says all right kill the rest of the hostages and
Just keep bombing us. I guess I mean, that's the only other choice. I mean, I yeah, I guess I guess so I
like I said, I kind of figured that that was gonna be the situation because you know, they had allowed the
Gazans to or the Palestinians to to to be the authority there and you got a terrorist organization in charge.
I think they really hoped that it was gonna work out
that first time and it just clearly didn't.
Yeah, they underestimated the IQ rankings in Gaza.
Unfortunately, it's like 80.
Yeah, like the West Bank and Gaza,
it's like two completely different stock of Palestinians.
I could go into that.
But in short, yeah, when the split happened,
the West Bank kept a lot of the academics and there's like a sizable
Christian population there was a sizable Christian population and then Gaza
Unfortunately with what happened the the stock there is not built for democracy by any stretch of the imagination
They're built for fighting which is you know, that's how a lot of the world is and that's it is what is it?
You can't blanket democracy across the entire world. It truly is amazing to me,
like having just recently like been in a car
driving from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem,
like it is a very small country.
When you look at the small country
and then you look at how small the Gaza strip is
and just its ability to produce this level of violence
and disruption to the world is truly remarkable.
Yeah, yeah. So I mean, yeah, that's kind of the big problem and disruption to the world is truly remarkable.
Yeah, yeah, so I mean, that's kind of the big problem is there's no partner for peace, so to speak.
I mean, you also look at it from the Palestinian perspective
of like, if you had this territory for 2000 years
or whatnot, and then people rolled up backed
by colonial powers and created a country there,
you'd probably get radicalized too, but that's not
a justification obviously for holding hostages or killing innocent civilians.
Yeah.
No, and that's not even really what, I mean, yes, they use that term like settlers, but
most of this extremism begets extremism begets extremism.
Right.
Yeah, I'm not like, I'm not endorsing that view.
That was actually like a recent like adoption that they were like, you know what, we were
here first.
Yeah, yeah, I'm not endorsing that view.
It was about like the infidel.
Like it is really more about, you know,
like these extreme philosophers of Islam, Islamism,
like, you know, Saeed Khattab from Egypt who were like,
basically just everything anti Islamist is evil and wrong.
And that's where this all started.
And now it's like, oh, the settlers, but.
When was that? Outside of Europe, like that guy it was like born in the
20s I mean he started but these are the books that they read I mean these are
the philosophies that they have by I mean because outside of Europe until like
150 200 years ago nationalism what is it wasn't even really a consideration
anywhere broadly speaking yeah I'm like the Far East so like we've tried to
export well I don't know if we tried but we've exported a method of
conceptualizing a nation
that doesn't come inherently to large-
So it was all about tribalism then?
Yeah, to a degree.
I mean, I don't know the intricacies
of Palestinian anthropology in the 1500s,
but the way the Ottomans governed is it was very tribal.
They kind of just-
Oh, I'm sorry, okay, so you're talking about nationalism
in the Middle East.
Right, yeah, yeah, so it's like,
I mean, the way that those those societies are structured was not how they are now where it's like
European sense we have a flag you pledge allegiance to that flag. You have an anthem you go to the Olympics. That's a very modern
That's a very modern way of conceptualizing a nation. Yeah, the fact conceptualizing a nation in and of itself is a model
Ironically a really good example of a nationalized Arab country was Iraq in 2003.
Yeah, yeah, true. Yeah.
So all right, we're going to jump to this story here from the Post Millennial.
The New York Post to expand West launched California Post in early twenty twenty six.
The New York Post is heading to the West Coast and would be launching
the California Post
in early 2026.
Robert Thompson, CEO of the outlet's parent company News Corp, said in a statement, Los
Angeles and California surely need a daily dose of the Post as an antidote to the jaundiced,
jaded journalism that is sadly proliferated.
We are at a pivotal moment for the city and the state. There is no doubt that the Post will play a crucial role
in engaging and enlightening readers
who are starved for serious reporting and puckish wit.
I think this will be great because the New York Post
has the most wonderful headlines
and to see them coming from not only the New York Post
but from the California
Post, I think it'd be great. What do you guys think?
I agree. I wish I had something to push back on, but I've been excited about this all day.
I'm surprised it took them this long, but it really shows how much the market for this
has grown on the West Coast. The amount of people fed up on the West Coast is at a fever
pitch. And again,
I think that a lot of people are just kind of stuck there, like they can't move,
you know, across the country. And so they don't. And I think that, you know,
they've put up with a lot. I mean, especially, you know, the crime stuff,
the no jail sentences, like putting people out in no bail and that kind of thing.
It's just nuts at people getting their houses broken into in Beverly Hills.
And, and then this, you know, white-toothed fool Gavin Newsom
going around.
I mean, yeah, if we thought the New York Post headlines are
good, wait till they get access to like,
California.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
These headlines would be good.
Oh, yeah.
They're going to Aero on.
They're just shooting up.
Downtown LA, they've got Skid Row up there on the front page.
This is going to be sick. It's said they're actually going to tryero on they're just like shooting up downtown LA. They've got skid row up there
It said they're actually gonna try to do Mars as well, so you might get headlines from Mars, New York
Mars post yeah, yeah, so yeah, I'm here for it. I think that'll be nice I mean is is this is this is this a comment on the state of publishing out of the state of California or is this?
You know is the is the market
Calling for this do you think the post is just kind of jumping in saying hey?
I think we can get some more journalism here
I think there's a big restructuring happening right now of publishing publishing is dying dead
Maybe and it's trying to find its way back
We're seeing like Larry Ellison's son trying to buy the free press for 250 million dollars
Was it really I've seen Tim Dillon talk about the episode was hilarious
But uh, it doesn't you know, people are trying to make moves in media and they should I mean, it's important the I just hope
They don't use AI writers
I hope that post doesn't embrace because you know, it's gonna happen. How many articles have you read that are that are AI?
I'm sure you know, I'm sure that you've you've read plenty of I know I have and they're terrible
They're bet you read some great ones that you don't even know. I'm sure they are
I'm sure cuz I'm looking at like, you know, it's terrible little articles that are three paragraphs
I don't know cuz it opens up with sure. Here's an article about
Yes, I don't know whose opinion on AI I find more objectionable yours or a lot
And we saw you have a healthy fear of it. Whereas a lot thinks that it's just a gimmick
And at least you have a healthy fear of it. Whereas Allad thinks that it's just a gimmick.
Allad's like, oh, it's just like the dot com bubble.
It's like, yeah, the dot com bubble was a bubble,
but like the internet is still here and it's a good thing,
so like there was substance to it.
I don't know if it's gonna be as apocalyptic
as I initially thought, but it's gonna be bad.
Yeah.
I think, like I do agree with Allad saying
they're good at branding. Okay. okay AI people are very good at branding but you're
we're seeing people losing their jobs to AI yeah and it's definitely gonna come
for publishing so hopefully not because I see like there's a veteran reporter
you're working on this and hopefully they have human that's your reporter are
to D2 auto pen yeah the interesting too is it's not that like there's a lot of new publications.
Like there still is an appetite for digital media.
It's the fact that they're trying print.
Yeah.
I'm like, oh man, there's someone here that really-
That's great.
They do it in New York and they do it successfully.
You know, I wrote an op-ed in the post maybe three or four months ago and I sent friends
out because I wasn't in New York and I sent friends out to go get me some copies to save
and like they couldn't find them like
I'm sure because of my office
But it's amazing like people it's almost like, you know novelty or something
I love it people like enjoy it having the the smell of the ink and the paper
I had to go to like eight different bodegas when the Trump mugshot came out. Yeah
Yeah, that like it's like
It is kind of turning into a bit of a.
I think print's having a thing right now.
I love the County Highway,
about this Walter Kearns publishing.
It's a newspaper, and you can only get it as a newspaper.
It's not online, and it's amazing.
I had a story in there a year ago,
but you get it in the mail.
It's just amazing to have a paper
and beautiful written stories, and it's incredible.
I think it comes out every two months, but I see that happening. They're on a country-wide tour right now with the paper. It's just amazing to have a paper and beautiful written stories and it's incredible I think comes out every two months, but I see that happen. They're like on a countrywide tour right now with the paper
It's incredible. I see more the people trying to do that. Yeah
Yeah, there's like a bunch of these like lifters on Twitter that have like rebuilt the man's world magazine
Yeah, they sent out a big glossy man's world magazine like every three months and then the op-eds are just written by like full-blown like
schizophrenics Now I'm interested. I want this.
Yeah but it's like really awkward putting your coffee table because it'll be like
nudity on the cover. It's like this it's it's actually much more hard to explain
this is porn. It's more complicated. It's not porn. Don't read the article.
So I mean I think I don don't know how much copy matters.
We're talking about AI inside of this thing.
It's the headlines, right?
And I think that the fact that the stories are being written
is more important than the way they're written these days.
And I think that they've identified that at the New
York Post, and they're doing very well with that.
Yeah.
Do you think they have a lot of AI writers right now?
I don't know.
I wouldn't accuse them of that.
I think that's low down dirty. So, you know, who knows they're cheap. So, you know, what papers do you use?
Single them out right now. I do know the AI flags now because I just I've like looked them up
I actually asked AI what the AI flags are. Yeah
Double-dash is a big one, which actually stinks for me
because I actually love the double dash.
I use the M dash all the time.
I love the M dash, and I don't think that.
Sometimes a comma isn't appropriate.
They're coming after you.
They are coming after me because I've been feeding it.
If you use the M dash, the AI is using it
because we use the M dash.
Yeah, exactly.
It's a beautiful punctuation.
It copied our style so that it would sound real.
I think the Zoomers have found the work around because there's
particular emojis that you use in a certain context that AI
can because it doesn't have a soul.
It could just never really figure out entirely.
So like when I journalists like when I just tastefully drop
like a like a crying emoji on the end of it.
It's like if you if you're a human being, you know what that
means and AI can never truly unlock the meaning of that.
There's a deeper steep.
It's a yeah, it's actually really deep. So you should be tears right now
The post millennia went on to say as the post is expanding its reach other outlets have had to cut back
CNN laid off hundreds of employees in January and in June the company was reportedly expecting to additional layoffs on the horizon as parent company
Warner Brothers
Discovery announces corporate breakup
in his parent company Warner Brothers, Discovery announces corporate breakup.
Other outlets such as Vox Media, HuffPost, and NBC News
have seen layoffs in recent months.
So this is something that it is actually surprising
that the Times is gonna be expanding in an era,
I'm sorry, the Post is gonna be expanding in an age
when clearly there isn't really an appetite
for at least the legacy news, right?
You know, I mean, if CNN, do you think that this is a symptom
of people not having an appetite for the legacy news
or do you think that it's the news
that those outlets were providing?
Do you think that people are sick and tired
of the left leaning bent on it?
I think it's, I don't even think it's that.
I think that we're almost giving them too much credit there.
I think that one of the things,
like I have a TV in my office.
I watch it constantly because my job is putting people
on TV to talk about stuff.
And so I'm just seeing like what stories are being covered,
what's going on.
And I watch Fox a lot, you know, I know Fox and I, you know,
I understand their system, but,
but I flip back and forth to like other channels forth to other channels and I'm not getting news.
That's the problem.
I want actual news and I understand it's an opinion.
There's never been unbiased journalism.
That's a myth, but then it's like,
CNN is so, they're very emotional
about whatever's happening and it's like,
there's big news happening and I wanna hear
about this hurricane and like,
I can't get it and it's, you know,
I'm not trying to, you know,
I appreciate the work we do at CNN,
but I do know that they came in behind Hallmark and HGTV
in the last Adweek ratings report, so.
Wow.
Brutal, brutal.
They're clearly doing, you know,
they're clearly not doing something right.
They used to be the name in 24-7 News, you know,
that was was if you
wanted to know what's going on, you turn on CNN and they have really lost that connection.
It's been a lot of the airports too. They lost the airports. I mean, that should have
been the death now. And I, you know, I wish them well. I really hope, I think just like,
you know, I, I hope that the democratic party gets their act together because I think that
we are stronger when we have two strong political parties working against.
I think that-
By get their act together,
you mean stop pushing for socialism
and focus more on like-
That they become a real competitor.
I feel like, first of all, conservatives get soft
when they don't have an adversary
that's actually up to snuff.
But the same thing with media.
I think that everybody's better
when they have actual competition.
Everybody has to do their best.
Everybody has to find that footing in the news
and continue getting new viewers and finding new audiences.
So it's not what you wanna see.
The other thing is, speaking specifically
about cable news, people are cutting cords.
You can't stop that.
Nobody's getting cable back once they lose it. So if you can't figure out what your like
streaming option is, or how people are going to get your product without having a cable
subscription, then you're already way behind. And the last election show that podcasts and
sub stacks and personal indie media dominated these guys. That's why Trump and Vance used
those platforms to help get elected. And Kamala failed at that. She might have paid Call Her
Daddy podcast for a whole fake set that didn't work. They hardly got the numbers. Trump's
numbers on the Rogan podcast are insane. And her numbers on the Call Me Daddy, whatever
it's called, I think they didn't break a million. Maybe they did by now, but.
I'll never forget the guy who ditched her interview
because she said bacon was a spice
and he was so offended by the hot take.
It was a hot take guy.
Yeah, yeah.
And he just canceled it.
It was like a presidential candidate.
Oh yeah, you're right.
Yeah, I do remember that.
That's that bad.
Yeah, the competition thing has really slept on too
because that's the reason late nights suck so much now
because Colbert got canceled, they're all showing up.
Like, we stand with you, Steve.
It was like back in the day,
Leno would have killed Letterman if he had the opportunity.
For sure, for sure.
He would have hired a hit on him
if he jumped him in ratings.
Bring that back.
All you had to do was be funny.
Like, oh, we stand with you.
It's like, oh, we're brave.
It's like, this is a late night comedy show.
This is not about who's bravest. I It's like, this is a late night comedy show. Like, this is not about like, who's bravest.
I don't need to turn on like late night comedy show
to get, you know, my political opinion.
And there's nothing brave about doing a TV show.
There's something lazy about not writing jokes, however.
That's why there's no competition,
because there's no competition anywhere.
Like, you go watch the gymnastics now,
and they're like friends and hugging each other.
Like, they used to snap legs to get on stage back in the day.
And now, what are we doing now?
We're all on the same team.
Bring back Nancy Kerrigan.
Yeah, bring back a little Kanye Harding days.
Yeah, we're not on the same team.
That's why the UFC.
We're in a Wheaties box.
That's why the UFC has such great ratings,
because it's actual competition.
They actually, even the guys that,
there are some guys that show each other respect and stuff
like that, but they're still trying
to punch the other person's face off their head.
You know?
And I think you see it, the same thing in football,
and in some sports, you know.
WNBA.
Yeah, the WNBA.
Well, there's only a couple girls that get attacked
in the WNBA.
But when it comes to at least mostly men's sports,
it's actual competition. But even still,
in the regular NBA, the viewership is down. I assume that it's the same with the NFL,
but the Super Bowl was really well viewed. Last year, it was still a big deal. So it's not
ubiquitous. But yeah, I think that the fact that there's a whole lot of kumbaya and in everything is is
Actually detrimental to people that are viewers because viewers want to see that competition they and they want it to be real
They don't want it to be manufactured. Mm-hmm. So that's very sad. Yeah
Also, I want more segments for like people disagree with each other
Like I feel like that's fine.
And people are, I don't know.
I didn't really book a lot of people.
I used to book on Fox.
I didn't really book a lot of people that were like,
now first of all, we did try to book some people that absolutely
just wouldn't have anything to do with our network
or our show.
So there was that problem as well.
But I think putting together this person has his opinion
and this one has the opposite, it
doesn't have to be a bloodbath.
Like it can just be like a civil conversation.
I mean, we do that here.
That's where the YouTube shows have like
picked up that entire market.
Cause he had like what Crossfire back in the day was huge.
Oh yeah, Crossfire was great.
But now it's the culture war with Tim Pool.
Yeah, or look at Piers Morgan.
Or Piers Pia.
Piers Morgan, I mean that is one step away
from Jerry Springer, right?
They're not in the same, they're not in the same building
so they can't throw chairs at each other.
They shouldn't be.
It would be kind of fun.
But legitimately, like the culture war,
Tim Poole's culture war, but even around this table,
like we don't all agree on everything.
I mean, me and Shane will go back and forth.
On the moon.
On anything.
At least we agree the moon is there.
There we go.
That's fair.
That's fair.
We agree that the moon is there.
What the moon is, that's where the difference That's fair, that's fair. We agree that the moon is there.
What the moon is, that's where the difference comes in.
You can tune into Inverted World Live tonight
at 10 o'clock to find out.
What, you're gonna find out what the moon is?
Yeah, we're gonna.
We're debunking the moon.
Yeah, I'm gonna pull it up on Wikipedia tonight.
Great news.
That's my source of information, Phil.
Wikipedia, that's great news.
Excuse me. I'm afraid source of information, Phil. Wikipedia, that's great news. Excuse me.
I'm afraid to ask a little bit.
I think the moon is actually a ball of rock
that probably originated with Earth, something
smashing to the Earth.
Whereas I think Shane thinks it's hollow?
I don't really know.
I think it could be a mothership for an ancient breakaway
civilization.
I think Earth is only over a little over 6 thousand years old. So six thousand. Okay. Yeah, I mean
God made earth in a day, you know, you know in seven days, so I stick with that
I'm a Bible thumper technically made earth in a day
Well earth but like there was seven days there creation all the other stuff
Yes, right and there's people who disagree on what a day means
and all that stuff, but I'm pretty strict now,
in my mind, with 6,000, a little over 6,000.
Okay.
So the moon being a rock that hits Earth
millions of years ago is just all made up to me.
Okay.
Fake time.
So we disagree.
Gotcha.
There you go.
But he'll...
We're cool.
Yeah, we can get along.
We can get along.
Yeah, we don't need the moon.
We don't need to agree on the moon. All right, we're cool. Yeah, we can get along we can get along. We don't need the moon We don't we don't need we don't need to agree on the moon
All right, let's see. We've got one more last bit here alo just for for for laughs for for shits and giggles
We're gonna go to a video that Alex Stein put up. He was hazing MSNBC and it is
Absolutely wonderful. So you guys will enjoy this we just watched the speaker gavel out with a whole lot of anger.
Kelly, here's the state of play. Here's the
NBC.
So how are you?
And that's NBC.
So I talked to you for a second.
And that's NBC.
So can I talk to you for a second?
Sometimes this happens and we understand that that can happen.
And while we love free speech, we're going to keep control here.
So, uh, so Ryan thank you
Shaq thank you it's a volatile story that will be following it
and apparently not only Shaq cleaned up.
Stay with us here because Ryan has no clear the set as we would
like to say the gentleman moved on Ryan, let me turn back to you.
Nicely handled there.
Can you give us an update on,
as you were walking us through this?
We'll all take a breath there.
Um.
Maybe not.
Okay.
Go ahead, Ryan.
See, hold on one second.
Yeah.
Okay. We're just gonna pull the plug
there playing out in real time is high yeah there's a whole lot of anger here
as you can see so we're gonna cut to a more fair enough fair enough and we
recognize people are expressing their views and we're there to cover it you do
that job move on with our audience.
Thanks for your patience with all of that.
I wish Alex ran really quick to the other screen.
He's just lampooning you guys.
She's just awesome.
She's like so smug about being diplomatic.
All day, you know, mop up the situation.
I think my number one comment, like having been someone who worked in a control room
for a long time, is that she handled it very badly.
I mean, just just very heckish.
We believe in free speech.
Get rid of that.
We're in control.
I don't know if that was a miscommunication with her in the control room.
And also the fact that there was not enough people standing around their on-air talent
to stop him from being harassed on air is pretty sad too.
I just like the guy was like, this is my moment.
He's like, oh, we're cutting away?
No, we're not. Actually, here's what's going on. Here pretty sad too. I just like the guy was like, this is my moment. He's like, oh, we're cutting away? No, we're not.
Actually, here's what's going on.
Here's the situation.
The comedic timing, like speaking of,
jokes are hard to write, but he nailed it with that.
It was great.
Yeah.
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Let's see, Peter Gohawk says,
since the left likes to change definitions,
can we change the meaning of they them to fat or ugly,
mentally unstable person?
I mean, we can try.
I don't know that it's going to stick, but we can try.
Let me see here.
Oh, wait.
That was the wrong button.
There we go.
OK. Let we go. Okay.
Let's see.
Rage LB says, Tate cast is best cast. You've got fans Tate.
Let's go fans.
Dude, my mom's gonna be stoked.
You are stellar.
You're great at your job Tate.
Thank you sir.
And they wanna let you know.
Unless they're talking about a different Tate.
Do you know how hard it is to be named Tate
in the Andrew Tate era?
Cause like I get on Twitter and they're like,
Tate is, he's a child trafficker,
he's the worst person ever.
I'm like, what did I do?
And then I'm like, oh, that guy, yeah, I forgot my bad.
Yeah, you know.
Yeah, sad stuff.
Let's see.
Thank you.
What's this?
BH is that?
Yeah.
What is?
BH says, hi team, would you consider eaching either Joel Jamal or Craig Kelly from Australia to talk about the beginning of social credit scores
What they call under 16 ban Tim had a bad take a few days ago
Look, man
Everybody has a take that you're gonna call bad at some point, but I I don't I
Don't think we would be avert to interviewing them
but that's a
It's not a question that I'm actually in a position to answer so
We don't even we don't call them bad takes more. They're called L takes. It's an update to the vocabulary
Get with the program Tim. Only has w takes. So I don't believe that
Let's see. Oh that there
Now they disappeared.
No.
No rants?
I...
What's up, Rumble?
I think the rants have disappeared.
I guess so.
Let's see.
Let's go to this one.
All right.
Robert Bradbury says,
We shouldn't arrest them.
We shouldn't kick them out.
If they don't show up,
their vote should be considered a no vote.
Well, I assume you're talking about in Texas.
And I mean, that's not a bad idea, right?
Yeah, I think most actual state legislatures
do work that way, but unfortunately,
Texas's constitution is not written that way, so.
The Lone Star state likes to do it.
There's gonna have to be some more work to get to that point. I agree, so. The Lone Star State likes to do this. There's gonna have to be some more work
to get to that point.
I agree, strongly.
I think if you abscond, then you've cast your vote.
Like, that's it.
They literally ask for this to happen
because of the way it's structured, like you said.
They don't even have a mechanism for it.
I probably need to read why this is the case,
but it's ridiculous.
And then the fact that the floor's two thirds,
you're just asking for this to happen.
I just vacate the seats.
You don't even need to rest them, yeah rest him yeah I get him I think that's a
great idea like you know Abbott should just say okay you're all fired yeah we'll
get you people spend a bunch of money on the election like yeah yeah I mean it's
truly despicable I mean to be elected to these positions and then to be this way
yeah you know and what how is this serving the people of Texas?
Right.
Yeah, they're just trying to score brownie points with the media.
Yeah, flying off to other states.
There's nothing to do with Texas.
And if you're going to at least go to somewhere nice, Illinois.
I mean, I'd be offended as a constituent.
I'm like, you think Illinois is better than Galveston?
What are we doing here?
I dare you to move there.
If they're in Hawaii, it'd be like, well, you know.
I mean, I get it, I guess.
Well, Illinois or New York, both of them should be handsome.
Yeah, what, are you going to hang out in Rochester?
Is that a big protest?
Poughkeepsie, they're going to go to The Chance.
Yeah.
They're going to go check out some shows at The Chance,
get kicked in the face.
Yeah, yeah.
I've had some friends who had broken noses at The Chance.
I've been kicked in the head at The Chance.
During Converge.
Head walking will commence during Converge.
During the saddest day. On that note,. I'm gonna head out to my show all right
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Let's see.
James Widenhoft says,
uncap the house and restore the limit
of no more than 30K constituents per US rep.
This would result no more jurymandering
and no more need for massive campaign funds
All you will do is talk to your neighbors and get elected
Well, I don't know if that's actually what would happen. It sounds good in theory
But I don't know that you that it would be good to have thousands of house members
Because if it's 30,000 people.
We would have like, would be 100,000.
Yeah, it'd be like something like,
it would literally look like the Senate in Star Wars,
you know, those flying.
Whatever I remember from government classes,
the reason we landed on the number we did
is because that's as many desks
as we could possibly fit in there.
Yeah, it made sense.
It's almost annoying sometimes to go back
and like realize the wisdom of our founding fathers. Like, you know, it's like, that is frustrating
that they came up with that. But it makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, one of the things that people,
I understand people's frustration with the government, right? Like, there's the argument,
oh, nothing ever gets done, etc, etc. And a lot of people don't realize that that's actually by design,
or they forget that that's by design.
Everyone says they don't like Congress
except for their own Congress person.
You know, Congress has a ridiculously low approval rating,
but then you ask individuals,
do you like your Congress person?
And overwhelmingly, they're like, oh yeah yeah, mine's good. Yeah. So,
yes, you don't like Congress because Congress doesn't get
anything done. Most of the time, that's because Congress isn't
supposed to be getting the things you want to get far too
much done. Yeah, in terms of these like omnibus bills that
are full of stuff we don't even know about that. Or did you know
this? And I'm gonna have to fact check. But I heard from a smart
person that Ted Cruz included
that the space shuttle that's kept at Udvar-Hazy
in DC or Dallas is, he put it in the big, beautiful bill
that that was gonna be moved to Texas,
like nobody noticed.
That's awesome.
Just as a point of contention.
It reminds me like- That's our shuttle.
Yeah, that's like what France did in the Treaty of Versailles
where they're like, by the way, champagne can only be made
in champagne, it's just white wine.
I'm like, they slipped that in the last second.
I didn't know that was in the Treaty of Versailles.
That is, that's hilarious.
So Ted Cruz is moving like France right now,
what's going on?
I'm not sure if you're really rattled on my thing.
I mean, but the point that I'm making is like,
people want to see federal laws
that should actually be state laws.
And really, this is a point that we make regularly,
like if you focus on your local reps and your state,
then you'll have far more tangible results
than if you try to get things done at a federal level.
There is a place for federal legislation, but it's probably
not what you're thinking about. And if we had a government that
was actually limited by the Constitution, where that didn't
abuse the commerce clause didn't abuse the necessary and proper
clause, and actually protected, you know, your rights that are
alleged to be protected in the Bill of Rights, you know, your rights that are alleged to be protected in the Bill of Rights, you know, you could have more
effective government at the state level, and people would
probably be happier with the results that they get. But people
think that there should be the same laws in California as in
New York, and as in Florida. Florida and that's that just doesn't make
any sense. You know, but trying to convince people of that is, you know, like herding
cats.
It really is. And it's scary because you know how often the power in the you know, and on
Capitol Hill changes and one year you can have lots of Democrats who want these crazy
labor bills that are harmful to you know contractors and
You know like the pro-act which fortunately hasn't happened yet, but it's always looming over our heads and you know
We saw it happen in California. It's a disaster
But happening at the federal level is a whole new level of terrifying and and subverts the will of the people again, so
All right, let's see
subverts the will of the people again.
So.
All right, let's see.
Hale Gailey says, Luis Rossman did a YouTube series on the
dysfunction of New York City real estate. It's an over
leveraged house of cards that is one bad quarter away from
collapse. I mean, that could probably be said about a few
different industries.
But I guess that would be something that people have to have to look into and make their make their own calls.
SA Federale says Shane literally created the resurrection of Costa Coast within
the Tim Kast family. That's exactly the point. It's great. Y'all motherfuckers better at least be catching the reruns
that she is enthralling coast to coast is great. There's a lot of
times where all that remains had long overnight drives after
shows while we were still touring in vans and we would be
listening to coast to coast am and all he was a huge huge huge fan. So if he was driving, you could guarantee
that art Bell was on and coast to coast AM was going for for
the late night drive. So and and yes, that's exactly what
Shane has done with inverted world live and you should
definitely go check it out after the show if you if you haven't
checked it out already. It's a lot of fun.
And Shane and Brando are great hosts.
Isaac says, why should we worry about Iran having nukes
when the nuclear armed countries in Europe
are becoming Muslim majority countries?
Well, I mean, France and the UK are the only countries
in Europe with nukes, I believe, right?
So, I mean.
Most Islamic countries, though.
Well, yeah, they are the most.
France, like legit, by, I think, 2055,
will have not a Muslim majority,
but a Muslim-descended majority.
Yeah, I mean.
Or plurality, sorry.
It's still not run by the Islamic Republic of Iran.
Yeah, no, no, yeah.
But it is crazy that, like, you have to sit there and think,
okay, so maybe in the next 50 years
it's something we have to consider.
I mean, it is something.
The French are gonna be.
It's a legitimate, it's something legitimate.
I think there are many, many years
from having fingers on the nukes.
Oh, we gotta give the evidence.
Oh.
How many is many, many years?
And honestly, is something that's many, many years away
something that we can afford to actually just say,
oh, it's not a problem?
I don't think that nukes will ever not be a problem.
I mean, this is one of the greatest conundrums
that has befallen us since the invention
of the nuclear weapon, right?
They're always going to be a problem.
Anybody having them is technically a problem.
The only thing that keeps it safe is the fact that many people have them and
there's the mutual self-destruction issue. That is the outlier with a nation like Iran
having it is that they don't seem to be concerned about being destroyed themselves, which is
very dangerous. The same thing, the same reason that a suicide bomber is much more dangerous
than a normal criminal.
You can't threaten them with self-harm. You know, it doesn't bother them.
Let's see, Neglectful Sausage says,
Chinese equals collection of ethnic groups,
Hispanic equals collection of ethnic groups,
Hispanics own Latin America, Chinese own China.
If Hittites are a collection of ethnic groups.
Whites.
What? It's whites. Oh, it's whites. Oh. Hittites are a collection of ethnic group. What?
It's whites.
Oh, it's whites.
Oh, it's whites.
It's whites.
Why is it still a two?
Whites are a collection of ethnic groups.
Why can't they own USA?
Well, because the United States wasn't founded that that way or it hasn't developed that
way.
There are people that make the argument that because it was founded by wasps, that it should
only be Wasps. But I think that
that that ship has sailed a long, long time ago. So the
option was never really there. You know,
yeah, that's a, you know, I think that there's a big
difference between belief and secure borders and, and
immigration processes that ensure that the people who are here want to be here
and want to be part of the experiment, want to be part of the project.
And it's a completely different thing than choosing an ethnicity.
This reminds me a lot of the Soviet era cards trying to figure out people's ethnicity based
on their chin shape and stuff like that.
It's not nice.
Who wants to live with that much hate in their heart?
Yeah.
And also like Chinese as an ethnic,
or collection of ethnic groups isn't true
because the Han Chinese run everything.
Right, exactly.
Have you ever, I mean, have you ever asked them
if they're a mono, like ethnic group?
They're absolutely not.
Hispanics hate each other.
You ever ask a Puerto Rican what they think about Mexican?
Oh.
Have you ever accidentally called somebody from Brazil
Latino or Latino?
Oh my gosh. Yeah, you ask a Dominican what they think about,. Oh, I accidentally called somebody from Brazil Latino or what?
Yeah, you ask a Dominican what they think about like yeah like a Mexican person and you're gonna hear like slurs You've never heard in your yeah, yeah, I mean it like it hit. Yeah
So yeah, and you know as far as the United States like the United like I'm probably
The most restrictive, you know, I have the most restrictive
You know immigration policies that are that are my favorite.
I think we should shut immigration down for a decade.
No immigrants except for O one visas and let the people that
are here assimilate.
And I think that everybody that's here illegally should be
deported like everybody.
And that's about as extreme as you get on, you know,
immigration policy. But even I don't think that, oh, we
shouldn't allow people in based on race or anything like you
definitely can disallow people based on ideology. Like, I don't
think that we should let I think that it's correct that the
United States says we don't let communists in, right? like if you don't look at things like private property as property rights as sacred
Then you shouldn't be allowed to become an American
Period like because that is anti-american, but I don't think we should base it on race
I think it should be based on ideas definitely based on nationality like Trump's done that with banning certain countries from sending people here
Yeah, that's the question is like, I mean, if this is what
why it's widely held belief among like 99% of the
population, then we're not going to risk it that hopefully
get this 1%.
And it should be hard.
I mean, it should be hard.
It should be a challenge.
You should, this is not a right, you know,
this is a blessing.
If you want to, if you want to live here,
it's the greatest country in the world.
And a lot
of people have died and worked their entire lives and generations to make it so. And if
you want to come here, that's great. I love that you want to come here, but it needs to
be something that you have to work for and earn. And when people understand that, then
I want them here. I think it's the same thing. We want people who love the country to be
here. We want families. There know, there's a lot of cultures
that are not in this country who like creating families
a lot more than Americans currently do.
And I'm all about opening that door and making that happen.
But you know, I do agree with you.
I'm not sure that I agree on a 10-year ban,
but I do agree that we've got a lot of undoing.
Just so that way all the people that are here
can become American.
Kind of like a settling period.
No, I totally know that.
And the reason I say that is because there's
been so many people that have come here
and have been encouraged to not assimilate.
They've been encouraged.
They've been allowed to speak the language of whatever
country they've come from.
The government has gone out of its way
to provide services in those
languages.
I think all that stuff should end.
It should all be English.
The argument that I make for that is there are concepts that don't make sense in other
language.
There are certain concepts that make sense only in the native language.
You have to have a people that all speak the same language so they can all understand the
same concepts.
So just
shut down all immigration for a decade or so, let everybody assimilate, and then
and again I don't mind O-1 visas if you're if you've got a special skill a
special talent or something like that come on we can we can figure out a
couple hundred thousand a year maybe. The O-1 visa, you still need to want to be here.
Like it's great that you have that special skill,
but that's not just the open door for you.
A lot of people treat it that way.
100%.
And I think that's a huge problem,
because that's a lot of the way
that like the CCP gets people in here.
I totally agree with you.
It shouldn't be just, oh, the O-1 visa,
that's your free pass.
I think that it should be very stringent.
You should have a special talent.
You should actually want to be here.
You should actually believe in our fundamental principles
that make America what it is.
You have to believe in property rights,
individual liberty, et cetera, et cetera.
I don't think, I think if you have an opinion
that's distasteful about the Second Amendment,
you shouldn't be allowed into the United States.
These things are fundamental to the country.
If you don't think people should have the right to speak, speak their mind, you gotta go.
We're not gonna require you to buy a gun. But if you have a problem with me having one,
I think that's an inherent problem. The Bill of Rights is fundamental to who we are as
a people.
Yeah, that shouldn't, this isn't a list of, that isn't a list of suggestions. These are
things that are protected, that the government isn't allowed to say that you can't do. So if you want to come here, then you have to at least accept, okay, these are things that are protected, that the government isn't allowed to say that you can't do.
So if you wanna come here,
then you have to at least accept,
okay, these are things that every American
is gonna be able to do, and not only am I okay with that,
I wouldn't push against them.
Right.
At the least.
Yeah, at the middle.
I prefer that you celebrate it in a ticker tape parade.
But yeah. Yes, yes, absolutely.
At the very least, when they're building giant
monkey god statues in Texas, that's a good sign
it's time to shut the tap for a little bit.
Yeah, you know, right?
Yeah, it's getting a little.
Just pump the brakes.
They're even stealing Marxist jobs,
like Zoran, he's an immigrant and he's coming here
and he's taking a job from a hard working Marxist.
That's not right.
That's another thing, it's like we've got,
if you're born in America, you automatically
have the right to be as garbage,
and you have the garbage opinions if you want.
We can't do anything about it.
It's like your family, if your brother sucks,
your brother sucks, but he's your brother,
so you have to deal with it.
We don't need to bring in people
that have these terrible opinions, right?
Exactly.
We already have enough of those.
That's right.
If we're born here, there's nothing we can do about it.
Yes.
Let's see.
Wyatt Clayton Burke says,
"'Phil, what do you guys think about the Gaza aid drama?
"'It seems like everyone is lying.
"'The photo of the kid in the New York Times
"'has MS Israel actually helped him,
"'but Israel lies too.
"'Israel's blocking aid.
"'They're all full of crap.
"'I don't know what to believe,
"'and so it's not my problem.'
This is exactly why I'm like, let them do whatever they want to do.
I don't care.
People get upset with me because I don't hate on Israel enough.
Well, I don't care enough to hate on them.
Right?
Like you have to actually have some kind of, you have to feel a certain kind of
way if you're gonna hate on someone,
and I don't care what they do.
Let them deal with their problems over there,
what, six or 7,000 miles away, 10,000 miles away,
whatever it is, their problems are over there,
and I'm not over there, so I don't give a F.
That's it.
So, but yes, they're both lying, they both engage in propaganda, So I don't give a F, that's it.
But yes, they're both lying, they both engage in propaganda, they're both trying to persuade people.
Israel's been doing a terrible job of it
and that's why there's so many people
that are turning against them.
Let's see.
It's Coco Sauce?
Oh, Coco Sauce says,
extremists won't forget about decades of US interference whether we support Israel not that ship is sailed
Look the reason the Marine Corps exists is because of the Barbary pirates and because
There were people that said hey
We're going to just scoop you your your people up and put them in slavery like that has been something that has gone on in the Middle East for
literally ever. So it's not like it's new to think that the that
there are problems in the Middle East that has been as long as
there's been a United States, the United States has had to
deal with issues from Middle Eastern countries
because of their religion, right? Like that's just the way that it is. Whether
it's the Somali pirates or the Barbary pirates or dealing with Gaza or whatever
like that the idea that we're going to have to deal with this. It goes without saying,
it's part of just the existence of apparently that region.
So yes, we're gonna have to deal with it,
but it's not about US interference,
it's about the people that are over there
and their belief system.
Was it Jacob and Esau came out of the womb fighting?
Yeah, you know?
Yeah. So. There's a lot in the womb fighting? Yeah, you know? Yeah.
There's a lot in the,
I mean, if you wanna get into like biblical stuff,
there's so much in there that is predictive
of like exactly what's going on today.
Yeah.
I mean, look, it goes all the way back to the,
at least the stuff between Israel and the Arabs,
goes all the way back to Isaac and Ishmael.
Oh, yeah, it's probably an Isaiah,
it probably talks about Hillary's emails.
I mean, it's crazy how accurate it gets. Yeah.
Taylor Lorenz's ex-wife says,
who has better plastic surgery, me or Bruce?
I'm not sure who Bruce is.
Jenner.
Oh, Bruce Jenner, yes, of course.
That's Sue Rebich for that.
Missed you this weekend, Phil.
CW was a blast. Thank you all.
Tim Kast team, thank you Roma Nation for the legendary after party.
I wish that I could have gone.
I had a massive, massive fever and I was very, very under the weather after party. I wish that I could have gone. I had a massive, massive fever
and I was very, very under the weather, so.
Yeah, we've all been getting killed by this.
There's been like a bunch of people here.
Alad's got it now, Surge had it last week,
I had it over the weekend.
You've managed to dodge the blood, huh?
It's like I never get sick, so if I get sick,
it's time to shut the company down.
I think that, I think you probably dodged it. I mean, it's made its shut the company down. I think that I think you probably dodged it
I mean, it's made its way through so far a little bit different
Tate was patients era who knows yeah, maybe I haven't and just were you sick you knew it
No, I'd never get like I'd never happen. Yeah, he's a carrier cuz I got vaccinated actually
All right, Raul Cortez says yeah, I'm indifferent to any of the points brought up in favor of
Israel.
I'm not bothered by Israel fighting their enemies, but I just don't see the casual relationship
between Israel's safety and American interests.
I mean, look, I agree with you about Israel can fight their enemies however they want to
fight them.
I'm not particularly concerned.
I saw a post this weekend on X about
the Sudan and like half a million people died there and it's like no one cares because no one
can blame the Jews, you know, so it's there's plenty of places where there are more horrible
things going on than what is going on in in Gaza and you don't hear people making us think about it. And I genuinely do think a lot of the reason is because,
you know, you can't blame Israel.
Just for some numbers,
because I did look this up recently,
there are 300 million people facing food insecurity
in the world.
Less than 2 million of those are in the Gaza Strip.
So there's a lot of countries, including Haiti, Sudan,
Mali, who are facing much more severe crises that were nobody seems to care about at all. Yeah, yeah, because it
mostly because they can't make a political statement about it. Correct.
Let's see. Dr. Tran says the internet is turning the humans gay? No, that's just
you. Figured out man. Yeah. Isaac says why should we worry about Iran having nukes when the nuclear-armed countries?
No, wait, we already read that. Yeah. Yeah, it's like a trip down memory lane
Let's see
We got here
Matthew Matthew van der Seed said are you going to post the Culture War live with Michael Malice?
Well, it won't be live, because it's already been recorded.
So, no.
But, it's recorded, and they're gonna post that.
So, yes.
And I think that goes up,
that'll go up on Friday at 11.
Friday at 11, there you go.
So, when we do the Culture War episodes on Saturday,
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They usually do.
It'll be Alex Stein and who else is there?
Have they promoted? Yeah, it's gonna be Myron Gaines oh yeah he's an interesting guy yeah and
cat Tim from the Fox News and then Kyle attorney was also interesting is that
not so erudite yeah yeah so there's there's some there's some interesting
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