Timcast IRL - The ESKRIDGE CONSPIRACY, 11 UFO Scientists MISSING, Trump Calls For INVESTIGATION

Episode Date: April 18, 2026

Tim, Ian, and Tate are joined by Tony Ortiz to discuss Trump ordering an investigation into missing & dead scientists, feminists are furious after Tim Pool says there are men's jobs and women's jobs, leftists cheer for new NYC property tax, and universal basic Income is coming.  SUPPORT THE SHOW BUY CAST BREW COFFEE NOW - https://castbrew.com/ Join - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLwNTXWEjVd2qIHLcXxQWxA/join Hosts: Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Tate @realTateBrown (everywhere) @TimcastTateBrown (X) Ian @IanCrossland (everywhere) | https://graphene.movie/ Producer: Carter @carterbanks (X) |  @trashhouserecords  (YT) Guest: Tony Ortiz @CurrentRevolt (X) Podcast available on all podcast platforms! For advertising inquiries please email [e-mail]

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Match with a licensed therapist today at Talkspace.com. Save $80 with code space 80 at talkspace.com. I bought it over the military base where an Air Force scientist went missing. And now, an update, 11 scientists tied to space travel and future technologies have either gone missing or been killed. With the latest news about a woman who allegedly took her own life and she had been researching anti-gravity and she was fairly young. Now, the Trump administration has addressed this. They're going to look into it, we'll see. And more GOP reps are coming out saying,

the things I have seen will shock you. That there are certain information that you might get classified that will make you a target. Are they lying? Are they all just pulling one big prank on us? Or is there going to be some kind of, I don't know, is this the precursor to some greater revelation? I don't know, man. Maybe aliens are real. Maybe it was lizards underground the whole time.

So that's going to be fun. We're talking about that because there is. breaking news, but it's Friday, so I figured we have some fun with it. Trump said the war is over again. All right. It's like the fourth time the war has ended. Iran says the straight is open. Trump says we're going to keep the blockade for the time being.

We're going to take all their nuclear dust from them, which is not dust, but you know, Trump's saying that because he keeps telling us he's blown up their uranium supplies. So we'll get into all that news and break it down. And then, oh boy, this will be fun. Elon Musk says it's time for a high

income UBI. which makes no sense, but let's hear what Elon has to say. And then we're going to round it out because I feel like it. The feminists are all mad at me. They're yelling at me because I said that there are men's jobs and there are women's jobs. And I'm just going to give you a little spoiler. Hilariously, this woman responds with Tim, you sit at a table and talk into a microphone. You don't have calluses on your hand at all.

Actually, I've been playing the guitar for 30 years. My hands are very calloused. And more importantly, two-thirds of podcasts are run by men. man's job. Thanks, proving my point. Before we get to the news, my friends, go to casprue.com and buy coffee. Why? Because coffee's amazing. Yo, we got everything. We got coffee pods, Appalachian Nights, Rise with Obrano Jr. We got a bunch of different flavor and signature coffees. Look at that. Mary Morgan's got one. Josie, the red-headed lebertarians got one. Shamus's got one. He's a lepricon for some reason.

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Share the show with everyone you know. Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more, we got Tony Ortiz. Thanks for having me. Who are you? What do you do? I run current revolt. We are like a team.

EMZ for Texas News. So if you're a Texan, we are a must subscribe. Like you have to if you're in Texan. So like stories about women setting themselves on fire. Yeah, we broke that. We broke that back in September. And it took mainstream media until like really like last month to really fully cover it. So we broke it all the way back in September. And it's kind of funny. There were so many, I got, I was being sent screenshots of conversations of mainstream journalists calling me fake news. And now they're the ones covering it. Wow. Yeah. Ian's hanging out. Hey man, good to see you guys. We also got TB in the house.

Tate Brown, look at this. What is going on tuberculosis, also what TV means? But in this case, it's made Tate Brown. Good to have you. Good to have another fellow Texan. Good to have you, Tony. Thank you. I'm just going to call you Big Brown from now on.

Ooh. Browning of America. That'd be my podcast. The Browning of America? Yeah. Or fresh baked brownies. My brown friend. My brown friend.

We got a brown guy in the show. Yeah, that's true. One brown guy. When you see me, you think, wow, I guys clearly ethnic. Yeah. That's true. That's what I think. Shall we talk about news instead of whatever that was?

I want to talk about it. Okay. Here's the New York Post. String of Missing or Dead Scientists. Too coincidental not to be major concern, Congressman says, as 11th mystery emerges. They said the death or disappearance of 11 top U.S. scientists and researchers is a matter of urgent national importance. Rep. Eric Berlinson said his office had already been eyeing

some of the two coincidental disappearances a year before Trump told reporters Thursday he had ordered an investigation. The lawmaker argued the fate of scientists almost certainly linked to the access. Some had to classified aerospace, defense, or UFO information, and may involve bad actors from China, Russia, or Iran. So check it out. Amy Eskridge died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound at our Alabama home in 2022, and she was researching anti-gravity.

That's just crazy. Some of the scientists literally just disappeared without a trace. Okay. So wild story. we actually have, check out this image. Let me see if I actually can find a better version of it. Links between the missing and dead officials. So Frank Mywald, Carl Grilmere, both worked at JPL.

Monica Jacinto Reza did as well. She received funding from Air Force, what was it, Wright Patterson, and oversaw. Okay, so this is, her project was overseen by William Neal McCasland, who also worked at Kirtland, which collaborated with Los Alamos, where Anthony Chavez and Melissa Cassius, and then you've got, oh, you've also got Michael David Hicks, dead,

linked to JPL, worked on deflecting asteroids from Earth. Theories. Okay, I'm gonna go this one. I've seen every movie where the great catastrophe is heading to Earth, so the government goes to round people up. You know what I'm talking about, right? The helicopter lands

in the backyard, and like the guys out there with this kid. Independence, they're like, yeah, we need a Yeah, and they're like, Mr. Crossland, the president needs you. What? Come with us. Or like, what was it, a rival with Amy Adams? They show up and they're like, you have to come with us. So here's what happened. Okay, let's start with the polls are about to shift, causing a great flood.

So they're rescuing top minds to bring them to the deep underground bases in Appalachian. I think literally that might be the case. And if the other ones are going rogue or refusing, they're killing them. Yep. Yeah. Well, is that the new Project Hail Mary movie where they turn? tried to rope them in, he says no, so then they just inject them with a serum and knock on it. Oh, I haven't seen it. Thanks for spoiling it. I was going to go see it this weekend.

Oh, that's just the old. And when we just came out, you just spoiled them. No, no, that's not a spoilt. Or something? Oh, we can believe it, technically. We can't believe it. It's on the trailer. Why would they kill them, though, just because they don't want them to talk? So, all joking aside, let's remove the actual tilt conspiracy.

People really love the story of the earth flipping and then the flood coming? That a real thing? I mean, I know what's happened, but it's not a real thing. Well, so, um, the. The real theory mainstream science is that the poles are shifting. We're experiencing an extended excursion from the North Pole into Siberia, where it's normally tilted over Canada. So we are also, I think, 100,000 years past the average cycle of when the poles normally flip.

The mainstream view is it's not going to happen to calm down. If it does, the magnetosphere will weaken and will get blasted by solar radiation, which will fry all our electronics. The Adam and Eve conspiracy theory is that every time this happens, it's actually 6,500 years, not 400 to 500,000. The earth will also rotate 90 degrees, causing water to flood around everything, sloshing about, and it'll wipe out most civilization. Which is interesting because carbon dating is not, a lot of erosion and heat can make it

look like time has passed. So that could make sense that 6,000 years looks like 40,000 in the fossil. It's like a giant server reset. Yeah, well, let's throw that all out. I mean, it's a fun story. People really love it. But it wouldn't really make sense they'd kill people. What does make more sense is that we're,

on the verge of World War III. China's super pissed about what's going on in Iran. Trump is saying this trade's going to be open, but we're still blockading Iranian ports, which means China's still going to be cut off from some of its energy access, though the fuel that it gets from the other Gulf states will be fine. The problem is Qatar has stopped producing LNG, liquid natural gas, so China's still largely cut off and hurting economically. If we are on the verge of a major war, imagine the government's going to these people and saying, you need to come with us now and work on this base. There's two theories. One, the U.S. government rushed full speed to the missing scientists and said, you need to come with us now. China, Russia, Iran. Who knows, executed,

these assassinated, these other scientists, taking out powerful elements of U.S. weapons development programs. Or the military went to these people and said, you will join the new Manhattan project. And when these researchers said, I'm not going to be party to weapons of mass destruction, and they went, bang. It's also possible that the Chinese took these scientists. They went rogue to other countries and that the U.S. government found out some of these other scientists were working for the Chinese

so they killed them possible. That's true too. I mean, whoa, like imagine these researchers were on the pay with a thousand talents program. Guess you know about that one? Yeah. There was that one professor who was caught taking money from China and selling off our IP,

our intellectual property from research. We were funding. What if, like, Special agents like guys in suits with, you know, silenced PP7, James Bond style. It goes to this lady and they were like, you've been revealing secrets. You know, you're a traitor. Wouldn't it be better to just arrest them? If that's the case.

Wouldn't it be better just to arrest them and like send a message? Be like, yeah, we're... No, because then they can talk. I think the best thing you could do is make a message to all the other scientists that might be on the pay. Well, but if that were true, that at least say one person was found to be a traitor and a spy or whatever. Yeah, to kill the rest, maybe.

Yeah, like to make an example, people need to know. No. To be fair, however, with 11 dead or missing scientists, it's possible anybody breaking is getting the message. That being said, hold on, sorry, Ian. I don't want to jump to disparaging the name of the dead or the missing because we have no information to believe these people have done anything wrong. As far as we know, these people were working for the U.S. government on projects of public importance and have died or gone missing in mysterious ways indicating some kind of foul play. So I wonder if the U.S. government is pulling the work for us or else, but I don't see why they would kill them. Honestly, if the U.S. was willing to kill, they just kidnap, right? Like the U.S. government would go to one of these people and say, your anti-gravity research has to be done in our deep underground base from now on. And when they go, no, they wouldn't kill them.

They'd say, you don't have a choice and they'd force them. Aren't they kind of already working for like U.S. government adjacent? Not black ops. Right. So you know what I love about these stories is that I was reading this one UFO story where an Air Force pilot said he saw strange objects flying over near like, it was like Western Florida. And then the news article was like the strange UFO sighting was witnessed, was about

70 miles away from an advanced weapons research facility run by the Navy. And I'm like, what is this? Why would you headline it UFO spotted and then mention at the bottom of the article near advanced weapons research for the Navy? It was clearly advanced naval weapons. Were you wasting my time for? I've also heard the argument too that no one is actually more indirectly incentivized for there to be public fears over the UFOs than the United States government, specifically the military, because again, that's something they go to Congress with and say, hey, we need a budget increase like now. So actually, like, if you look at where the incentives would be, I don't know if I subscribe to the theory 100%, but in theory, you know, the defense, you know, the Department of War now would be directly incentivized for there to be like increased fears of our UFOs and I think because they go to Congress and say, hey, we need our trillion dollar budget, like now, or now they have it, but we need a trillion and a half dollar budget. Like, hey, there's these potential China has these, you know, super weapons or potentially there's extraterrestrials. Let's get some more money right now. I mean, we see that all the time where government agencies stoke fears, like the postmaster comes out every year. He's like, oh my God. We're going to have increased stamps like 50%.

And then it's always over a budget shakedown. You know, I will say this. I have to be a downer. I'm going to be a downer, guys. And, you know, I'm going to preface this with, if instead of saying what I'm about to say, I instead said it's aliens, this proves it. We'd get more views. But this may just be a bias where people die.

These people have died at different times. Some people go missing. People go hiking and fall off the trail. to a cliff all the time. And so a lot of people have just speculated we're seeing patterns where there isn't one. That could be happening too. I mean, there's tens of thousands of scientists and here's 11 and we're like, I'm jazzed about the anti-gravity because it's a real technology like the Byfield Brown experiment. These scientists will work on it and then it gets to the point where you're like, there's no anti-gravity. Felt Brown. Check out the byfield. Oh, that's made up you that Ian. It gets to the point where you're like,

how ethical. I talked with Ashen Forbes about this. I'm going to say it one more time. Exactly. This is the thing is be careful because like we're using the internet. We're speaking of the world. So you get to point where how ethical is it to talk about the deep tech? Like you want to, you want to tell your military this stuff so that we can preserve the world together and, and establish American republicanism. You're going to missing tomorrow. Yeah, real. Well, I want to help them. So I'd like to be a mouthpiece to like, hey, you don't need to say everything you know on TV. Some of this stuff, like the Manhattan Project, if we hadn't done it, and they probably, people didn't know the scientists were working on it while they were. We would have lost World War II.

We could very well lose the world economic order if we don't have. You know, I just want to, I'll start to part something out real quick. Could you imagine being like a black ops U.S. government guy at an advanced research lab making these technologies? And there's a bunch of really annoying people like Tom DeLong who won't stop bothering you. And you're like sitting there and you're like, okay, the anti-gravity should be coming online. And then it's like, bro, Tom DeLong's outside again. He's looking in with binoculars.

Like, oh, this guy won't stop. He's got it all wrong. Yeah, exactly. He's completely wrong about it. You want to correct him, but you can't. He seems to be like a societ. You watch him on TV. saying insane things and you're like, oh, gosh.

I can't fact check them at all. You make a burner Twitter account to like, here's what happened. The lady, one of these, one of these scientists is at a bar and someone's like, I heard Tom DeLong talking about it and he said it's aliens. And she goes, I've been working on this for 15 years. It is not a, oh, crap. Bang. Literally, yeah.

Well, Tim, you were saying earlier, like kind of the confirmation bias. I mean, we were seeing it right now in Austin, you know, where a lot of people have gone missing around Lake Travis. Oh, that's a serial killer, bro. People are like, it's a serial killer. It's the alternate ex- gay one. Yeah, the majority of the people going missing

are gay men. And they're thrown off a bridge, right? Yeah, that's what I was going to say. It's like, so people are saying, like, well, you know, it's like Travis, you know, people get swept away or whatever, but they're all gay. And thrown off a bridge.

Wait, not to make light of it, but you're saying the serial killer is gay, it's a gay serial killer or a guy who killed. He's probably anti-gay. Target. Well, or, well, it's a real sexual. He's a gay guy, and he like, you know, he goes on a date with them

or seduces them, and then he kills him. them. But like the gay guy would want to have sex with them. That's how he gets them. Yeah. It could be like there's plenty of cases or there's been plenty of movies or theories where like the gay guy feels guilt and like then he. Jeffrey Dahmer was gay. Yeah, yeah, right, right. Could be that. A lot of them are. Yeah. What does that do with aliens? Directly ties in action. Repressed sexuality. I just said something real quick. I just, I have to say something. It just, it's been eating at me a lot. I know we're only a few minutes into the show. But remember that video the the other day where the gay guy had the baby begging for its mom.

That guy's last name is Mick Aynalee. Oh, it's not a joke. What's it? No way. It's not a joke. Mick Anil. What's that theory where your name kind of like... Yeah, his ancestors in Scotland.

Swallow was... Swallow. Got in trouble for like, you know, didn't... Anthony Wiener, it was obvious. Like, your name kind of... I heard there's a lawyer named Justin Case. There was a one mom from Doey Cheatem and How?

A lawyer named lawyer. What? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I shouldn't mention that because I was talking about it earlier. And when I pulled up the guy's Instagram, it's M-C-A-N-A-L-L-Y, like literally. E-N-A-L-L-E?

Yeah. And I was like, is this a joke? Like a horrible McDonald's, you know, thing. Guys, I think we live in a simulation. You know what I mean? I think, you know what I think it is? I think the simulation was created to be an, it's like, instead of writing TV shows, there was just some dude and he was like,

I got an idea for a business. We'll create a bunch of data centers that run this AI universe, and then we can just isolate points of interest, and that will be the show. So, of course, like, the headline show is Donald Trump. And the people outside the simulation are just in there eating popcorn, watching all of Trump's antics. It's like laughing.

I'm fascinated with the way plasma interacts with photons, because I think that really might be happening with, they build, like, their data. I think about that casually. I'll think about that this moment. No, I was thinking that. Their data centers are stars, and then they just use photons to communicate and transmit.

You took the words in my mouth. That's right. And also graphene and, you know, and hydrogen. You were saying something about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, it's always talking about the coach. Anyway, my point is, like, when you get a story, when I'm looking at the story and it's a, it's a gay guy holding a baby,

and it's, like, very abusive, it's very horrifying. And then I'm like, here's his Instagram and his last name is Mick Aenely. I said, this is fake. Yeah. Like, somebody faked this. This is not real. Someone made a fake video to generate outrage, right? Yeah.

Well, that's like, wait, the Japanese when they have video games, and it's like the baseball, I'm Johnny Baseball, and it's like, okay, a little too on the nose. That's like a Japanese designing, like, a predator. That's what they would name them. Well, it's like the other day with that story. Like a JK Rowling character for a gay guy. That's what she would call.

That's probably, yeah. What's the, Cho Chang? Everybody was like, she named a Chinese character, Cho Chang. Yeah. She's like, I need a name for a gay guy, guys. Come on. McAnally, there we go. Yeah. True. Yeah, I, I, it was, we had that story the other day where it was like, Gavin Newsom provides taxpayer funding for transgender, uh, taxpayer funding for sex changes for transgender illegal aliens. And you were, you were, you were, like, it's like a right wing headline generator. If you could like, shake up a box of bright barred headlines, that's what would come out. I asked my dad, I've been feeling kind of like lost and spiritually lost. And I asked him like, what do I do? You know, his response is pray. It works. It really works. And like, if we're in a simulation and your thought,

really do impact your surroundings. Like, it might have massive transcendence. There was only one thing that I need or want. A good smash burger. Just get some pickles, some cheese. I know. And I'm going to have one. The human staying alive part of life is very different than the prayer.

No, I'm going to pray for a cheeseburger, and it's going to happen. It will. My point is, I am going to ask and I shall receive. If we're in a simulation is praying, like sending a note to, like, the help desk like hey I kind of need this yeah I need you to drop this into the server mods so you know I was driving uh in L.A. to go to my boy Robbie's house you guys know Robbie he's been on sometimes. Robbie man Robbie man and okay so this is this is Robbie like him and Ian probably get along right so I I call him and I'm like hey I'm gonna be at your house on like a few

minutes is there where to park and he goes uh I in front like see if you can find something like okay so I and it says L.A. right next to the Grove and I pull up no parking so I drive around the block, loop around another block. There's no cars. And I call him like, bro, I've been driving 15 minutes. There's no parking. He goes, well, manifest it, bro. And I said, what? And he was, bro, you've got to manifest the spot. And I said, what does

that mean? He's like, bro, you have to manifest it. Like, envision it happening and the parking spot will appear. And I was like, Robbie, I can't magically make a parking spot. What are you talking about? He's like, now that attitude. And I ended up driving until someone moved. And then I was like, this is what's

funny. I go to his door. He buzzes me in. And he's like, you got a space? And I was like, yeah, after like 20 minutes. He goes, you manifested it, bro. Yeah. And I was like, no, I drove around until someone moved. And he's like, but you made that happen. Oh my God, dude. Sometimes people drive cars. Patriot manifestation is real. Like, again, if you're like, President Trump, Donald Trump, if you can hear me, please, Donald Trump. And then next thing you know, boom. I do that with Costco. When I go to Costco, I just always go to the front. There's just, there's going to be a parking spot on the front. The philosophy of manifestation is if you believe it's real, then someone gets like an idea and they go move, they're like, oh, I got to move my car.

And they'll go do it. It's kind of like when someone yawns and you ya. You see that experiment where they had people in like isolated closets and then one person yawned and then everyone started yawning. What does that happen? Even though they couldn't see each other or hear each other. One person's yawn, the next person yawn, they're like, there's a lot of ways like quantum tunneling.

How deep do you go? Yeah, like why is our. That's what the acidic is around to Brooklyn. If I see somebody yawn, even if it's on a TV show, I will ya. What do you think? Dogs, I yawn my dog yons. It's crazy. Yeah, it's a thing.

It does with animals, too. What do you think would be cooler? The scientists are being assassinated by a foreign adversaries. They're being recruited and or assassined by the US government or interdimensional beings are capturing and or killing them. I have a phobia of aliens, like, legitimate. Like, aliens freak me out. Like, they're not the reptile ones from like aliens versus prey or not.

Those are cool. Those turn me on. They don't do that for me. Yeah. Oh. I'll manifest that. Maybe it'll happen. It won't kill me.

But like the big-eyed alien ones, like, my hands sweat when I see them, like in movies and stuff. With the grays? The grays. Yeah, like, I freak out a little. Do you think there's, there's probably people who have, like, a fetish for, like, lizard people? There's a fetish for fun. I'm sure there are. I know.

Could you, I'm just imagining how funny that would probably be. Like, we talked about Chris Venheim's husband and, like, this bimbo stuff. But that's just the stuff you find out about when someone leaks stuff. I wonder if there's, like, some member of Congress who got elected. just because they're like super into lizard people. Yeah. There's somebody out there praying that aliens are real because they want to have sex with them. Yeah.

He's like, I'm just really into energy beings, dude. How funny would that be if like, as a member of Congress getting briefed on lizard people, they're real? And the guys are getting all sweaty and, like, excited? Is there a dating app for this yet? Is something wrong Congressman? Are they green? It's like, something wrong congressman. He's like, show me more pictures.

What is this feeling like? Can I take these to review? It's their dating app slither. They're like, have you used slither? slide into my D. I got slow there pre-in- I'm gonna have to take this file for a quick review but you can't leave the building I'll just go somewhere private

is that bathroom allowed can I go in there? I'll be in the bathroom for 10 minutes, nine of which I'll be asleep. What's y'all's theory? Do you think do you think the aliens are real? Oh, of course. I think they are but it's not corporeal that we know they're like high frequency density consciousness. Well that's true too but they are physical aliens and higher higher formate. The likelihood is

there's other animal. Would you argue that's like the demon theory? Like aliens are just demons? Yes. Yeah. And angels, I think they control your thoughts and your body. They kind of move you with magnetic force. It scares the crap on it.

Well, let me put it this way. Like, there's an ant walking around, right? He can't see you. That little ant can't even comprehend that you were there. But what happens if you take a ruler and block its path? It will stop, see the ruler, and then turn and run. It doesn't comprehend that a human being has intervened in its life. Right.

imagine anything in your life where you're going about your business and all of a sudden something changes. To you, it seems like nature, we can't perceive the angels and the demons that are interfering or intervening the way we do for lesser entities. When my flight gets canceled, it's a freaking alien, like messing with me. Every time. No, but sometimes. So we talk about like manifesting things. Imagine if, so we can understand some simple things about, say, a dog or an ant. Like dogs, obviously much higher than ants. So dogs understand you exist. and you can do things. I love this meme.

It's like, to a dog, humans are, they live for the equivalent of, you know, several lifetimes. They have super, they seemingly have magic powers can fly and, you know, can strike someone down from a distance. We're basically elves to them, you know, the way elves are to humans and lore. So for a dog, we can still interact with them in a way that is beyond their comprehension. They just know that we're capable of doing crazy things. We don't have any equivalent to that.

But for an aunt, the gap is so massive. they can even perceive our existence for the most part comprehend what we are. So imagine what we understand about what ants want or do. It's very simple. They're going to grab food. They're going to bring it back, right? So what you can do, you can rip a little crumb off a piece of bread and put it down in front of that ant. And that ant doesn't know anything other than a windfall has just appeared before me.

It has been granted a great boon for some reason. And it runs up and it finds the food gets all excited. And then it runs back and tells its bodies and they come and they all just drag it away. Imagine winning the lottery. Imagine something good happening to you, and you are just thinking, wow, a good thing just happened to me, right? You don't even know why. Could be an angel.

Now, hold on. What about the little kid with the magnifying glass frying all the ants? To the ants, they're like, oh, God, a great catastrophe is just wiping us all and killing us. Could be a demon. So what if the angels and demons, their motivations are rather simple? Higher entities that are sometimes bored. So imagine this. We understand the desire of an ant, right?

it wants food for the most part to bring back to its house. We don't really care if it does or doesn't. Sometimes it's funny. Sometimes you give a little like chocolate chip and you watch the end. You're like, hey, look at him and go. Imagine you now praying and saying like, I just really want to succeed and like have all this money. And as a higher entity just being like, here, I'm going to put a million dollars right there. Look at them go.

Oh, little guy. He's loving it. You know what I mean? Yeah, the angel manifests the thing by twisting the subatomic time space, I think. and then matter kind of... You can rationalize however they did it. I'm saying, liken it to... Sure. Lichen it to an angel.

My point is, it could be higher dimensional entities that view us like ants or bugs. And they're looking down, giggling, being like, this guy's trying to have a podcast. Watch, I'm gonna, I'm gonna create a time, a linear path of success. Hey, look at a go.

That explains why the make rib just kind of spontaneously reappears in the menu. I know. I think about final... You know what the real reason is, right? Divine intervention. Yes, it's access port. Yeah.

Yeah. Well, it's the human for an ad. That's, you know, ants have explanations like that. Partilage, bone, and other other garbage gets mashed into a million bits. Like, I make a rib. Right. You know, I wonder like that's because we're ants. We don't understand.

It's actually a cosmic intervention saying now is the time. The make rip can return. I ask why do the spirits do this if they're doing this, which they seem to be? Like, why? And maybe that question just breaks down at that level. There is no why. I don't know. Like you were saying they're curious.

You think maybe they're just are interested in changing things. Maybe there's a bigger purpose, like they want us to create a galactic empire so that we can coexist. Have you watched Star Trek, Next Generation? I've seen them all. Almost all of them, I think. So Q is a character in the show who's a higher dimensional being, can manipulate reality however he wants. And the one thing I always did not like about the character, like, but it's fine. I love Star Trek.

It's just the presumption of Picard and the other characters is that Q is temperamental and erratic. whereas at no point did the characters actually just address, obviously a higher intelligence with expansive knowledge is going to be beyond our perception, our conception of pettiness. Thus, Q is acting irrationally and antagonistic for a reason. So in the show, the general idea is Q, like I said, he's all powerful, right? He's some kind of weird entity. And they presume he's just an annoying guy. Yeah, that's like probably not.

The emotional spectrum we have relative to an aunt is like near infinity. If Q can see the future, he's like maybe he punches a guy in the face. The guy's like, why'd you hit me, Q? And then like three days later, the guy gets attacked again and he's ready for it. And Q's like, see, I was preparing you for. And I think they do address that when Picard asks like, why do you do these things? And he's like, it's for a reason. But they never have the exposition to the show for Picard or anybody to say the way he behaves is an intentional act.

Clearly a being at that level would not need to behave in a petty way. Dude, I wonder if there's angels and demons, if there's actually entities that want us to succeed and then entities that want us to fail, literally. That doesn't make sense. It wouldn't make... Wouldn't that be an angel or a demon though? Why would a magnetic field try and repel you away from it? Why would someone kick an ant hill over for no reason? Why would someone put a pepperoni slice next to the ant hill to watch the ants eat and the other person, kick their ant-hill over and destroy it. Why do some humans dump molten aluminum into ant-hills

and then massacre the entire civilization and then lift the mold out of the ground? That's research. They don't care. They don't think about the ants' lives or goals or anything like that. They don't care. Oh, so there's some of these spirits are more interested in researching on us. My point is... And I'm seeing us succeed. They just want to throw us trouble and see if we can handle and how we handle it. Well, there's a child who burns ants with a magnifying glass. There are adults who see an antinhill and kick it over. There are adults who will intentionally rip a piece of bread off and drop it near the antil. The motivations are immaterial.

The guy who kicks the antel doesn't later go, I feel bad. I kicked an antil. He also doesn't go, yeah, I got him. He doesn't even think about it. But to them, it's a giant catastrophe. Yeah, it's their world ending. Could you imagine if like a skyscesterber just exploded? Like, what if the world tradesenter, the reason that there's a real 9-11 conspiracy is that

just some interdimensional entity was like, huh, boom. and knocked it over. And then they were like, ah, and the government can't tell us. Because they, imagine the government came out and said, there are interdimensional beings that view us negligibly like ants and sometimes cause catastrophes. There's just an asshole that was bored. But those,

80s just getting nuked. Those ant hill kickers will, will realize what they did is wrong if the ants strike back and teach them a lesson. But they won't. The ant will stack up. Sometimes every once in a while, you break the barrier and you can. terrify the spirits. Like, you can control them. They're, they're magnetically bound to your will. I think you're just wishing that to be a little crap out of me. It's like, I get a lot of sleep

paralysis. Like a lot. I get a lot. Yeah. And it explains why you're such a good journalist. Dude, I get a lot. And it's gotten to the point is get it so much now that I can, I can wake my wife up to wake me up to like snap me out of it. Yeah, but what's it called? I remember the theory that like the alien abductions that people used to have, they used to say it was sleep paralysis. Yeah, because you're dreaming. Yeah, yeah, and you're like locked in bed.

Like, yeah, I hallucinate, like recently the one I had. There was like something behind me breathing on me. Like, it was like a, it was almost like a cat.

And it wasn't my cat, but like, it was like making noise behind it. Yeah, but bro, let me, let me, sense it.

I hated it. Let me freak you out a little bit more. Oh, God. Do you believe in, uh, the multiverse? I think it's possible, yeah.

If there is a multiverse, that would mean it is possible. We don't dream. We view. If all, if, If every universe branches off from other possible universe and every probability creates a new universe, that would mean when you're having a weird dream, you're actually just peering into another reality.

So when you hear that breathing over your head, that's not just a dream. You are actually perceiving a universe where that is really occurring. So like somewhere in another universe in my room, there's this like monster that's hanging out. Yeah, it's a different frequency of perception. And when you dream, you see these other realities and experience them. I mean, that's like... That was the first thing I thought was DMT because when I have experienced DMT

there was like a stereoscopic realm three dimensionally and things were behind me so when you were saying something was behind you in your space that that's a in sleep you released DMT I know. Or what if it's not that there's not that there's not dimension with a monster

by your bed, it's that you are perceiving of the dimension where it's a wilderness with a monster walking through the woods. That's horrible. I hate it. But I think it's why we have imagination too. You don't have an imagination.

imagination, you have the access to the overview of the multiverse. Yeah, and the ability to put the pieces together to create new universes. Imagination implies in your mind you are combining ideas to abstract new ideas or things. New freedoms, yeah. Like just new concepts, but they're not new. If the multiverse exists, you're actually just seeing what is. That might be true. Like everything we think has already been thought.

I don't know, though. That's kind of weird. Our brains are just tapped in to. the multiverse and we can in our mind close our eyes and here's the thing some people can see more than others how how strong is your third eye some people when they when they close their eyes and you say envision an apple they can't do it yeah like the people that don't have inner monologue right i met somebody that told me they didn't have inner monologue and i can't i can't even comprehend not having it makes no sense how's it even possible i don't know because like you know

like i think like in the shower i'm thinking i can hear my voice in my head talking like to thinking about things out loud and this person was like, no, I can't, I literally cannot do that. Here's a question for you. How many, how many tracks do you have on your mind though? What do you mean? You can hear yourself talking? Right. Can you also see things happening? Yeah, of course. Can you hear two things at once? Yes. So when people say they have an inner monologue, that also is a limited, like we talked about this when we were in Austin, that the people who can envision the Apple. Yeah. It's like when you, when you envision an Apple, do you see? a three-dimensional red apple rotating.

Right. I remember seeing it. Some people can see different types of apples. I'll see different like in different like quality. Right. Like some people can only see like a 2D app. Let me let me pull this up. Yeah, that's a good chart.

Because like there's some people that can see like an apple and it's like which you could at a base level like call high quality like a four-k version of a high res. High res. It's this. And there's some people that, yes, there you go. So here's the thing. Number one, I would flip this around. I would make the red apple.

five, four, three, two, and one. The reason is there is actually something beyond seeing the apple in full 3D realistic. So what's interesting about this is that people, what is beyond being able to see an apple in full 3D realistic? Taste it. You want to break it open and put it back. Simultaneously in your mind, slicing it in half, smelling it, picking it up, visualizing, taking a bite and tasting it, all of the senses around it. Or also, visualizing the apple, rotating in 360, then being split into 128 individual slices that each

then rotate themselves. Then you imagine the apple itself decaying. You see beyond this. And then there's beyond that. And that is, while you were envisioning the apple spinning being sliced into 128 different slices while aging, you're also hearing someone explain what is currently going on while a song is playing in the background and you're planning for the rest of your day. And then you become the apple?

Yes. For a moment, yes. And yes. one step beyond that is you are the apple. Sometimes that keeps me up at night because that does happen to me. You're imagining you're an apple. It's like the same song loops over and over again

and I can't shut it off. That's not what I'm talking about. You're imagining that you're an apple on a table and you can't move and you're like Ah! What's the deal with people that can't do this or don't have internal monologue or inner monologue? It's like a muscle. It's like a muscle memory. No, I don't think that's what it is. I've trained it.

People that are just... Well, let's talk mainstream. The mainstream scientific view is that as a baby, your mind is developing neural pathways. And if you do not get stimulation to develop it, you will never get that stimulation. So there's studies showing a direct correlation between the age at which a child is being taught things and the capability they'll have later in life. Easy way to explain it. Do you play baseball? No, I did. If you started playing baseball right now, full time, will you ever be as good as anyone in the in Major League Baseball? Very likely not. It's zero.

It's not going to happen. Basically zero. It's basically zero. I won't buy a motorcycle. So the reason is, in order to reach the highest potentiality, you have to be training for something from like zero and on to develop a, it's not just about developing muscles to do something. It's about developing the muscular structures, the fast twitch muscles as you develop.

Muscle memory, yeah. It's not just muscle memory. It's that your muscles must be built and designed from your whole life to be able to do something specific. We do a bunch of general stuff. Then around like 12 or 13, people start to pick up a hobby or something, you will never, if you start playing baseball 13, you will never be as good at someone who started playing baseball when they were three. Man, did you see Justin Bieber start on the drums when he's like two or four? Yeah, he's amazing. You do have to keep doing it, by the way. But so anyway, to the point here, the mainstream scientific view is people with no

inner monologue or capabilities of visualization and audioization. Oralization, oralization. Oralization, I think, a U-R-R-U-L. Oralization. Did not have that stimulus as a child. Another example is tone deafness is related to a child not hearing music for a long time as a baby.

Oh, I was surrounded by music. My dad played guitar. This is wild. I could not understand the concept of tone deafness. I didn't believe it was a thing. I thought it was a joke. Like, I thought the phrase tone deaf

meant you were just bad at knowing pitch. Good music and stuff. Not good music. That it meant if So I likened it to having bad pitch, meaning if you hear a tone, can you replicate it? I thought tone deaf was basically saying, you can't imitate different pitches. But that's not what it is. Tone deaf literally means people cannot hear.

I have a great example of this. They're incapable of discerning. Everybody hears the same sound differently. We all hear it the way our brains have coded themselves to hear. There's a tone deaf test, tone deafness test, where they will play two tones. do, do, and then they'll ask you, and then they'll play two tones, do, do.

They test people doing that, and there are people who literally say, it's all the same sound. And they're like, you are toned out. Is this the same as like people who, like tasting food? Like they can't tell the difference thing like what is good food or what's not,

like, what is, well, I don't know about that. But like, or, well, maybe I'm thinking different. Like, there's plenty of people out there that like, they're incapable of eating outside of a certain food that they're used to. Yeah, but come on, everybody loves orange chicken. They say some tastes are acquired, like acquired taste. It might be an acquired ability, sound, you know, the ability to hear tone, to discern tone.

No, it's a developed ability. When you're young, if you don't hear tone, your brain does not develop the ability to do so. But taste buds, if you get rid of garbage foods, you can taste a lot easier. So I don't know if you do that sound maybe too. Let's go back to the point you were asking when I said the scientific view of it. Let's do the spiritual view of it. I actually think there's a possibility of this, that some people are more spiritually attuned, meaning whatever the figurative third eye is that connects you to the the the the infinity if you have a

stronger third eye you will conceptualize better you will you will predict things better you will be faster to you will think you'll hear thoughts simply put imagine if everybody has a an antenna in their brain some are weak and some are strong and god is talking to you those with very strong antennae are going to seem smarter, but they just have a better connection to divinity. And there's two parts to that. There is the, how strong is your antenna? But just like a radio, you might tune to 92.3 and get a radio station.

If you travel 10 miles, you no longer get the station because you're out of position. So just like you want to tune your brain to be able to pick up God's frequency, you need to be in the right place. But in reality, that means you need to be the right thing. You need to change your body because that's position in reality. is what you are. So you change into the position that then you hit the frequency and you hear it. It's like fasting will put you in the right place.

And then the conspiracy theory is they put floored in the water to calcify our pineal glands to restrict our ability to perceive divinity. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's like putting like a Faraday cage over your radio. Yeah, that could be a good. I was going to say, I have a buddy who did ayahuasca. He was atheist before he did it. And is that you pronounce ayahuasca?

Yeah. He was atheists before he did it. And he did Iwaska and he actually like reached out to me while he was in the middle of a trip. I don't know what you call. Forgive me. I'm ignorant on this. I don't know what the ceremony? Yeah, he was in the middle of, he's going through it, right?

And he, when he was done, he remember he said he like, he envisioned, he had several, he said several entities like came to him. One looked like Gengar, which is kind of funny. It's a funny bit. But the other one was like, it was like his, I think a family member that had passed away, had like approached him and was like telling him to do a bunch of stuff. And he came to the conclusion it was all demons.

Like these were evil spirits. And he came out of it. He became a Catholic. And now he's like a very strong practicing Catholic. And this dude's like incredibly smart. He didn't become like a weirdo or anything. He's like one of the smarter friends I actually have. But I don't remember exactly the point was with this.

But like the essentially like he tuned into this thing or he claims he tuned into this thing. And like yeah, he saw all these entities and they were like trying to convince him to do different things and change his life. And he came to the conclusion they were all like evil beings actually. He actually saw like evil stuff. He did not have a good experience, but he became a Catholic out of it. He became very religious out of it. And there's clearly like genetic predispositions to like certain types of religiosity, too. Like if you look at the founding of the United States, where if you look at like the Puritans,

where example, there are like these hyper Calvinist types. But they have virtually, they came from the same place in England, right? They were English, ethnically English. But then if you looked back in England, all the Puritans left came to America. And then all the Englishmen that were surrounding that area, right? In East Anglia and that sort of thing had far lower, levels of religiosity. So like clearly among like certain tracks of people there was increased religious. Go like this. Move your hand up a little bit more. Move it closer to

you head a little bit and push it forward. It's not working. Hi-5. The All Their Remains album took the focus away from you so you're all blurry. Oh, Philibati's sticking it to you. Move your head. Some alien. Wait, wait. There you go. We got it. Some like alien was bored and was like, we're going to move you're out of focus. You're about to start a tour. There's a lot of like, This is one of my pet issues, not pet issues, like pet interests is like the different, like, genetic predisposition, the religiosity. Because if you look at like Northern Europe, they were the last ones in on Christianity. Like if you think about like the Nordic countries. Last ones in on Christianity.

And they were the first ones out. So the Reformation hits. It changes everything. And then they were the first ones to like just become like widespread atheism. So that, there's kind of two things. Is that just a purely cultural thing? Or is it possible that that's just like a genetic predetermination? Because even a lot of the Nordic people who came to North America that settled in Canada,

Minnesota, et cetera. They also have really high rates of atheism. And so there is potentially just genetic predetermination. Our gender and roles in doing certain things, we're all predisposed to do. Are atheists the worst people imaginable? I'm just kidding. I'm not saying that atheists suck. I'm not saying that. I'm not saying, fuck you atheists. No, I'm just kidding. No, atheists are, yeah, atheists are, I think, kind of silly because to claim that it doesn't exist, just because you can't see it, It doesn't mean. It's not really. My issue with atheism is that, you know, when I was a teenager, I claimed to be an atheist. And the reason why is it's not about not believing in God. It's about rejecting narrative God. And when you try to explain, so I think it's an issue of order of thinking, which goes back to what we're talking with the apples in essence. So, and then we'll talk about Zara and Manda a second, because the order of thinking thing is a huge issue in politics. But when I was younger, I grew up Catholic. And, and. they talked about God, and it was presented to me like a cartoon character. They would make us watch videos where God was a cartoon figure with like a big beard or whatever. They showed me a video where

Adam was writing a Bronosaurus, like Adam and Eve, like Adam's on a bronosaurus. And so I said, this is insane. This is not real. So then I said, I'm an atheist because I don't believe in the specific cartoon character they showed me in school. Then I read some books, learned about quantum physics and theology, and I said, oh, God is real. But God isn't the cartoon character that they're trying to portray him to be. He is something beyond. I think Michael Knowles says it well when he says, God is the logos of the universe. So what I find typically when I talk to atheists is that their perception of what God is, is a guy in a robe who lives in the clouds.

When you try to explain the concept of infinity itself, you run into an issue with orders of thinking where some people genuinely can't conceive of what infinity actually means. People think infinity is a number. It is not a number. It's substantially more than that. And if you go to someone and you ask them what infinity means, they'll be like a number that never ends, that's low-ordered thinking. It doesn't mean they're stupid.

You'd say, yes, but the true concept of infinity beyond that, and they might say, I don't know. Maybe they just need to be educated so they can learn and expand their minds, or maybe they're limited and they can never really understand. I think there's a reason why you see, I would put it this way. Low IQ people who believe in God just do so because they can't see, they can't understand cause of fact. They just, there's a God, it must be. midwit individuals start looking around for evidence and then say if i see evidence of x then i demand evidence of why and if there is no evidence of god that i can perceive in this reality god must not exist that's low-ordered thinking at the highest levels you look at it like a sudoku puzzle and you say

you know everything kinds of kind of adds up to there is a god but if god offends your modern sensibilities just say infinity all is one yeah there is a greater there is something that makes all. Cyclical is a limitation on the all. Cyclical function is how I see infinity. I mean, obviously, it never ends. You know, it's just the function of the cycle. And that it's kind of like what God is

as well. It just continues, like, if it is the subatomic vortex, if it's a vortex, reversing entropy, it's just this, but I don't know why it continues like it does. It changes a position. A human microscopic microscopic image of infinity. It's probably not what God is. That's what God's doing is creating vortex. I think it's how it's communicating with us,

is through black holes. This is, uh, learn about E8 lie groups so you can start to graze over what infinity means. And I think to most people, they just go, is it a tapestry? Understanding infinity is beyond me. But my point is the degree to which you can understand what infinity represents will reflect in your order of thinking. Yeah, I had started to have this vision in 2012, where I would visualize infinity. I'd get fast. I'd be backing away from this flat plane. And it was like just a flat surface. And I'd back away and it would be getting smaller and smaller and smaller. But as it was getting smaller, it's a better image.

It's getting bigger. It's getting further away as it's getting bigger. So I'm getting further away as it's getting bigger. So it's not changing shape in my perception, but I know I'm getting further away and it's getting bigger at the same. And it like opens up something in my lower back brain just visualizing that, especially laying down and like kind of bending it up. I've seen this on some bedroom walls when I was younger and dating. This just gives me PTSD for my dating years. This is, this is a microscopic grain of sand in the Sahara Desert of what infinity could actually be. And so, good luck, I guess. It does feel cheap to say there is a god because I still don't know, but there's a god shaped hole in the Sudoku puzzle, whatever that means.

Like there's some function that obviously, I guess it seems like. Ian, let me, let me, let me, let me tell you some. Are you, are you sentient being? I think so. You think therefore you are. Yeah. So do you exist within the rules and confines of the universe? Seem to, yeah. You do. And so consciousness is a component of that universe, correct? Yeah. So what is the difference between the conscious entity of you and electrons? The complexity of it. You are both functions that exist within the laws and rules of this universe. Your consciousness is a component connected to the logos of the universe. You know, it's more about... That means the universe is conscious. God is real.

We can go into a million different arguments and expanding this concept. But I would put it this way. Another question. Do you believe that the human consciousness is the end-all, be-all, of? consciousness. Of course not. There's probably something much more expansive. So I'll put it this way. The presumption we can make is that our conscious entities are within the confines of existence in the universe like any other chemical reaction or reality-based phenomenon. We know that things in the universe don't exist outside the universe, which means if you were to zoom out of the universe and view it in its totality like you would the earth, consciousness is a percentage of existence. Oh, yeah.

We also can presume we are not the highest form of consciousness. That would be arrogant and silly. Considering on Earth we see scales of consciousness. It was once believed that animals were either sentient or they weren't. And in Star Trek, a great example is that data says, my cat is not sentient. Science doesn't view it that way anymore. They now see it as degrees. You view it as a gradient.

Some animals have more acute perception and understanding of reality than others. and we have the highest that we know of on this planet. To presume that we are the end of that would be silly, considering we can map all these brains and see these functions. So it stands to reason. Consciousness is a component of reality. If we look at fire as something simple and the sun as something greater, but similar in many ways, and they're kind of different,

you can then scale things up and see that consciousness as a concept could scale to the size of the universe. likely is true. I think that scale and that pattern in these things point to the existence of the logos of the universe.

Honestly, if your body was compressed and heated enough in a deoxygenated chamber, you would turn into plasma. And it would still be you, but you'd be in a hyper-liquid fluid state of plasmatic gas

and sentience. You know, the sentience wouldn't like just disappear. I think it's fair to surmise astral consciousness exists. That's not God. That's just that there are higher forms of consciousness

beyond ours based on the function of the universe. I bet God is still pretty a rudimentary term. Once we get deeper and deeper, we'll be like, oh, there's like layers of what is going. See, again, like to go to atheists, they imagine when you say, God, there's like a dude holding a book

who's like in the clouds being like, I'm going to watch you. And then when you try to explain to them, quantum physics, E8 lie groups, when you try to explain like M theory and these things we think we know and are probably wrong,

they go, I don't know. So do you guys meditate? Do you guys meditate at all? In the shower, I guess, and the water's running. I'm thinking about all sorts of things. I do like riding the stationary bike and like doing other stuff, I consider that meditation almost. Because like if we're in a simulation and your mind is in massive control,

like that's meditation is the ultimate power because you can shut it down at will. Yeah, I pray. Like that's the amount of onslaught of demoralization porn that's on Twitter, well, just everywhere. I mean, you need those moments of just... You got to pray that gay away, bro. It's real. Yeah, it's so true.

Yeah, you absolutely need, you absolutely need those moments just to, like, lock in and realize, you know, it's not actually, I mean, it's die or sure, but like you can only control what you can control on your immediate. Let's let's let's let's get super crazy and deep with it. What if a thousand, two thousand years ago, everyone knew you could manifest things with your mind. Praying was a real thing that people would do with tangible results before them. Like you'd literally, you're out in the middle of the woods. and you're like, I'm going to need some food. So you get on your knees, you put your hands together and say, please provide me with food.

And then all of a sudden, an animal would walk up to you and just die right in the spot. You'd be like, thank you. What if that's the way it used to be? And our ability to manifest things in reality through prayer was tied to the amount of people asking. That is, if there's one guy in the middle of the woods and he says, please save me, and then all of a sudden, actually, let's do it this way. I love that joke where the guy is in his house and there's a heavy rainstorm. And a car pulls up or the storm says a flood warning, evacuate now.

And he prays, dear Lord, please don't let me die in this flood. Then he has a knock on the door. And there's a guy in a raincoat. He's got a truck. He goes, quick, we got to get out of here. We're evacuating. The flood's coming. And he says, no, no, my lord will save me.

And the flood waters rise. So he goes to the second floor. And he says, please, God, the flood's here. Please don't let me die. And then a boat pulls up to the window. And he says, quick, get in. The flood's getting worse. And he goes, no, my God will save me.

The flood waters rise, and he climbs up onto his roof. And he's begging, God, please don't let me die in this flood. And then a helicopter flies over and they throw a rope down. They go, get the rope. We're evacuating now. And he goes, no, my Lord will save me. Then the flood waters rise, he drowns and dies. Finds himself at the pearly gates.

And they walk him into heaven. And he stands before God. And he says, I don't understand. I was faithful. I begged you to save me. Why wouldn't you? And he goes, I sent a car, a boat, and a helicopter, and you wouldn't take it. Yeah, the prayers are answered in unexpected ways.

Now, here's my point. I love that because the implication is you can ask and you shall receive, right? But what happens when you have 8 billion people and they're all asking for different things? What happens? You ever see Bruce Almighty when he's like, you know what? I don't want to answer these prayers. Yes to all. And then everyone wins the lottery.

So what happens when every single person is praying for the same thing? it's not possible for God to grant everybody what they want. So what if, way back when, when populations were few and far between, were very sparse, it was easy to pray and receive. As populations started to grow, they began to pray for conflicting things, which reduces the effectiveness of successful prayer. They call it the spiritual war, maybe. You have one nation praying for food, the other nation praying for food,

and the fish aren't going to... There's only so much food. So then what happens is the powerful elites who know this is true, say, how do we restore the ability to pray and receive? We have to eliminate the ability for people to connect with the divine. So they lie to us, they trick us, they deceive us, or they poison us, they damage our bodies. The conspiracy theory is that they put fluoride in the water so it calcifies your pineal gland, which you need to perceive divinity, and then your prayers don't work anymore. People start becoming atheists and they give up on religion, but the powerful elites still can just say, I would like to have a billion dollars and asking she shall receive. What you're focusing on is basically your prayer.

Even if you're looking at a wall and talking about the wall, you're praying for a wall. So TV is the way that the elites or radio are able to control your prayers by getting you to focus and think about what they put on the TV. And then what happens if they eliminate 8 billion people and leave only a couple hundred million, the strength of the individual prayer prayer goes up. I kind of feel like the powerful elites might also be praying to something else other than God.

What do you think they're praying for? Well, there was always those theories that they were messing around with like demons and stuff working with them to... How about this? Technology is just demons handing over stuff that... Well, we talked about like the kid

with the ants and the dude with the food. Think about it like there's some pigeons, you know, and they're walking around. and or actually crows, a better example, right? There's the guy who built that crow vending machine. What he did was he built a machine and he put a bunch of, there was a tray

and he put a bunch of nuts on the tray and coins. Crows would land on the tray and eat the nuts. Instinctively what crows do when they finish all the food is they sweep the ground looking for more. What this did was the crows would knock the coins into the hole which would make nuts fall down. The crows quickly learned if I put coins in the hole, nuts come down. He then scattered coins around the base of the machine.

The crows would hop down, grab a coin, jump up, drop it in the hole, nuts would come down. Once all the coins were in the machine, the crows would fly around the neighborhood looking for coins, bringing them to the vending machine. This guy got crows to start making money for him, selling them nuts. The crows don't understand what they're doing or why. So imagine the powerful elites as the crow. they start acting in ways that demons like and so the demons give them benefits these things could be slaughtering children other people start catering to the angels and to the divine doing things that god and the angels like and they get rewards too what if we just perceive it as they're worshipping

mollican sacrificing babies to demons but it could be as simple as they're providing some benefit to a demon for which he's rewarding them as if they were just some lowly animal yeah because a demon could could like answer your prayers just like an angel could. It could vibrate reality to make the thing appear just like they have equal abilities. They're just twisted in different ways. That proves it. Yeah, I had some interesting thing I was going to bring up about it. But you forgot? What you were saying was so interesting. I want to keep going down this road. Okay. I'll remember. I've noticed, talk about manifestation. If you ever think you forgot something, say out loud, I'll remember. You tell your body that your body believes you and then relax and the memory will come back to be fair i do think that

uh while i don't know that i believe like manifesting is a thing where you like sit there and ask and it happens i will certainly say in my life i've gotten what i've asked for like i don't know if you've experienced also mass prayers to make these things happen you've got to put yourself in a situation for them to happen you're never going to win the lottery if you don't play the lottery you know you're never going to you're never going to find a partner if you're not out there like you know if you haven't won the lottery you just got to keep going and going and going and going You know why college students never won the lottery? Too smart to play.

That's funny. Fools. Too dumb to lose. I've seen about mass prayer while you were talking because you were talking about the more people that I tried in 2007. Early days of YouTube, I was like, what if we all got on Stickem. Stickum.com? You guys remember that website? And we did a mass prayer.

Me and Katie's opinion, Katie saw. And we could only get 1,900 people in there before the whole system crashed. But I think servers are better now. You could get 10,000, 30,000 people together to have a unified person. prayer in a moment. Dude, I don't know if humanity's ever done that yet. If we did that effectively, let's schedule that.

Yeah. Yeah. It's something on a calendar. Yeah. I think the servers that can handle a million. I don't know what they can handle now. Candice Owens had like 400, I don't know how many hundred, 50,000 live viewers. What was the X basis that Trump had with Elon that one? 250. Those.

Well, here's another. Here's another thing to consider, though. Misleading, because if you leave the video, it still says there's a watcher. Here's something to consider with that internet theory. What if views have always been fake? What if it has always been the case that when you look at a video with a publicly displayed view count, it was never real. So when you look at podcasts on Spotify, Apple, you know, these other networks, podcorn is one of them. You can't see the numbers.

They never release how many people actually listen to those episodes. But on YouTube, the video will show you a number. Why did they need that to be there? honest question well I think if you're the provider like if and I love YouTube but like if you're the YouTube like you want people the numbers there to perceive that people are

using the platform as well in which case the number doesn't matter or I should say the viewership doesn't matter the number matters right so if YouTube is trying to say this is the kind of content that works why would they ever show the real number they would show that they would show high numbers on content they want to exist

right maybe with minds we were ethical about it What was the point of showing the views publicly instead of on the back end? So that people know what of their content's doing well. Exactly. And so my point is if you were the deep state and you saw that Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube were like influencing people, it's real easy. You'd go in and just be like if it's in favor of what we want, make it get a lot of views. And if it's not, make it get no views.

Do you think they're doing it since the beginning, basically? Why not? They do that now. Of course. Yeah, of course. ARPA was like they built the internet, you know, it was deep state tech in the 60s or something. So maybe, yeah, sorry to interrupt. No, no, no, no, you're 100%.

But like, they do this now. They artificially make trends. You see this was a, what's it called when they kind of make a, there's a word for it. I'm blanking. They introduce like a celebrity and it's like a plant, a celebrity plant. Yeah, celebrity plans. Industry plan. Yeah, you have this with politics too.

All of a sudden somebody pops up. Astro-turfit. Yeah, it's like this person has nothing interesting to say, but all of a sudden, like, all their stuff's getting viewed and retweets. Yeah, that's why people. bought views is because it creates the idea of consensus, right? Like if there's consensus, or at least if the masses are sort of endorsing it by saying, yeah, I sat and watched it, that indicates that there must be something of value here.

When's the last time you watch a video has like 30 views? You have, what's his name from Twitter is like cracking down on this where they want people to be, to disclose that they're being paid because you have a lot of these political influencers that are doing like, they're like, they're promoting policy positions or politicians and they're not disclosing like, oh, I'm being paid to say this. Yeah, literally. Right. If we were going to pray for something, what would be the best thing to pray for?

A million dollars. For everybody? No. For you? Yeah. I don't want to get 20,000 people to pray for you to get a million bucks. Do something more holistic. Do something more agape.

Right. Love of the community. The issue is asking, you know, like all in all with, you know, all of our metrics, we might get like 500 to 600,000 views in this episode. Then with the clip might get additional 50 to 100. Is that enough prayer to overcome 8.2 billion requests? I don't know. I don't know how it works.

If it didn't, if like the more, probably the more tune their third eye is, the more powerful their prayers. Also, you recruit really powerful prayer. But also, what could you pray for

that wouldn't contradict or hurt somebody else, right? Like, for example, if you were to pray for like, all the oceans turn into drinkable water so that we always have drinkable water, well, then you ruin the ecosystem. Well, you destroy the ice.

Right. You destroy the, I'm just saying, like, it's a really rudiment, like, a basic example, but like, what could you pay, could everybody pray for that wouldn't have negative consequences?

Right. Well, and you also have the thing at 11-11, when everyone's making a wish, that there's one guy out there saying, I pray that no one's wish comes true. Oh, exactly. God's basically, he's like chilling up there at his desk and he's like, okay, that's all 8.2 billion. I got, oh, one left. So we'll do yes to everybody.

And then one guy's like, I wish nobody got anything. Goes, okay, my job's done. Yeah, there's just one guy playing spoiler. This one. There's just some dirt bag. Maybe. Or maybe he knows. He goes to church.

Like if everyone got their wish, it would destroy the oceans. And he's like, no, no wishes. No, he justifies it. I think we unintentionally built a spoiler with electricity, because it's so useful for like getting food and these basic human monkey things. But it's messing up the third eye, like the frequency. Why is it messing it up? No, like what do you say?

Like, you're making that up. Well, I think the magnetic fields are interfering with our thoughts. I don't know. I don't know. But like when you go out from electricity for a little while, it's very different. Was it? Well, it's just the fluoride. Yeah.

In addition to fluoride, like it might be having compounding effects. Or calcification. Yeah, I was talking to Alex Jones and Mike Sernovich a few years ago, and they were explaining how when you take DMT, those things you see are demons. You think that you believe that? That they're demons? They do subscribe to that theory. Well, I just depends your definition of demon, I guess.

You think they're evil? No, no. Because that was what was arguing to me, and I don't have any rationale for why they would be evil. What they were saying is that they'll offer you a deal. which is information. They'll tell you what to do, how to do it, when to do it, how to get what you want, if you agree to do it. And I said, what's the downside?

And they're like, it's just the deal. I'm like, what's wrong with taking information from entities? And apparently, I guess the idea is that the things they want you to do that get you success are bad for humanity, or it's good for demons. But my attitude is like, I'm told by the corporate press to ignore Alex Jones because he's evil and he's a liar. But then I go and I investigate it. turns out he's actually an honest guy who's trying to just provide his perspective and help people break the noise. If I just believed what the machine told me, I would say, no,

away with the Alex Jones. So maybe these entities are just... So you don't argue that the concept of evil is subjective in that. No, no, no, no. I'm saying that typically when you encounter an entity in the DMT realm, it doesn't mean they're evil. Well, I mean, if the entity, for example, and I'm just, we're just playing around with here, but like, if the entity, like, in order for that to get that information, the exchange is, we want you to kill a child. We could argue that that is a bad deal. Yes. And that's a demon.

That's an evil thing. But it doesn't mean that all entities are demons. There might be an entity. It'll be like, hey, Ian, I'm going to give you a lottery numbers. What do you want? Nothing? Just win the lottery. Some of them will offer you things.

I think people have told me those are the demons. Watch out for the ones that offer you things in exchange for something you. But the ones that want nothing, the ones that want for nothing, they're just there and present with you are very healing. And if you ask them things, they'll tell you. Yeah. It's like my iTunes gift cards and I will give you. Why do I throw food out for the deer? Oh, to feed them is the dumbest answer, but to make more of them so you can hunt them later.

It probably also makes you feel good. Like, oh, I did something good. And so maybe entities are like, Ian, I'm going to help you out because you asked. I don't need anything in return. Yes, those I think are the angels. If you want to separate or parse the gradient of evil to good, the ones that don't ask, it's kind of like humans too. Like friends that aren't trying to get something out of you are real friends.

What if an entity says something like, I love, I love Lindor chocolate truffles? If you give me a bag of those, I'll give you, I'll give you the stocks that are going to go up this week. No, no, no, no. That would be like a demonic trade. I was it demonic. It's like, bro, I just wanted some chocolate. That's like DoorDash. Yeah, exactly.

I don't know if it's true, but that's fine doordash. From what I think Michael Malice told me that, from people that have told me over the years, the ones that ask you and like propose things to you are the demons. Watch out for them. be more like... I gotta be real. If a demon came to me like, it's like, imagine this purple little

like goat-legged creature going, I'm going to give you the lottery numbers in exchange for a Hershey's chocolate bar. I'd be like, okay. Sure. But we know they're not asking. How about I get you two of them? But if they're like,

if they have the ability to do these things, we know that they're not asking for that sort of basics. I think it's silly to a shit. Well, yeah, we do business with characters like that all the time. I make car salesmen. Yeah. But at the beginning, they'll be like, give me a chocolate bar.

Then they'll be like, get me five chocolate bars. Then they'll be like, get me your son's chocolate bars. They'll be like, get me a son. That's a you problem, though. Listen. Watch out for the- If a guy comes to my house, if a guy comes to my house, knocks on the door, and he says, I've got a suitcase with a million dollars in it just for you.

Cash money on the spot. Kill a baby. I'd be like, no. Sometimes it'll be like, I'll give you charisma if you eat a chocolate bar. You think there's a lot of people that would say yes. Especially if, and that's on them. Especially if this demon could guarantee you're not going to get in trouble for it. You just have to do a certain way.

This is my point with the demons thing. You don't want to lose. If a guy came in a boy, we're knocking the door, I'd have a million dollars for you, and I'm going to buy it in exchange for, like, that mallet you have in your desk, I'd be like, deal. It's like, oh, you did a deal with a demon.

I did a trade with a guy for a hammer. I think they try to give you things that you can't get, that you don't want to lose. And then they, they're like, now give me this to maintain it. Well, if they give you, I don't think they give you literal items.

Let's slow down and stop. You said those that ask for something are demons, and my point is, not all trades are evil. that's it right and i don't know that those are demons but people told me the ones that ask for things which doesn't make sense because not all trades are evil right definitely not yeah so they're not demons an angel might say i will make your life better but you must pledge to me and they say what must i pledge go to church on sunday well they won't even do that they'll do that they will do any of that unless you

ask and then they'll tell you but the demons maybe my my point is if an entity came to you and said I will grant you a better life. You will get a better job. You will find a family. You will have your own house. But you must pledge unto me that you will follow my commands. I wouldn't do it.

And then you say, what do you command of me? Stop taking drugs. Start going to church. Clean yourself up. Is that wrong? Are those demons? It sounds like a demon.

That's Joe Peterson. Yeah. I'm going to clean your room. You're going to clean your room if you want the lobster? You want the chocolate bar. It's like, well, perhaps it's time to clean the room, man.

It might be what goes. I see, I take issue with this because an angel would command you to clean your life up and go to church. I don't know. Which would also just naturally make your life better anyway. Exactly. That's the point. They don't really force you. They're with you and will help you if you need it.

The idea that a demon count you and said, if you want to have a better life in a family, go to church and stop taking drugs. Like, that's not a bad deal. That's a good deal. There might be neutral entities. But then you wouldn't label that as a demon. That's my point. Like, if an angel came to you, like literally a divine entity, a gigantic wheel with full of eyes and feathers or whatever,

and it spoke from within your chest telling you, stop doing drugs, start exercising, eat healthy, that's not a bad deal. But if it's like, and then all will be given to you. It's like, ooh, wait, what is this doing to me? What is this trying to get me to want? Because if you want from the spirits, that's a big problem. If you expect, then... I think Ian's moral compass is broken. Well, that's for sure, dude.

You know me pretty well, too. I mean, I'm a weird one. I'm more into like neutral energy than good and evil. If God commanded you to kill a baby, would you do it? No, no. I would imagine it wasn't really God either. What if God wanted you to sacrifice your only son? No.

You wouldn't do it. No. What about you? I don't know. I'd have to think about that one. I'd never thought about that. You know, that's in the problem. I know.

Literally making a reference to when God was like you had a kid. If I would be able to confirm 100% it was God, like in the scenario. No, that's a problem. why are yelling at you. I think I'm tripping out. No. But they have like, they have technology where they can beam thoughts in your head. So like literally people will be like God's commanding me to do. Don't do it. Like it's not God. God doesn't tell you to do. You know, it's funny. It's like we laughed at that. There is technology that they can put a helmet on your head and they can blast you with so much magnetism. You feel the presence of God. Isn't that crazy? They did this experiment.

They put a helmet on people with like super high magnesium. Just blasted their brains and they all said they felt the presence of some powerful entities. I think they're doing that the sphere, right? Now. It's just listening to good music. Maybe God does tell you to do something. That's why they hijack this, this pathway is because they want to make you think it's God telling you. Or they want to take away everyone's ability to talk to God so only they can. Yeah.

What if God's up there and he's just like, he's like, he's on the phone and he's like, is this Trump? Trump's like, it's just me. And he's like, I've been trying to get in touch with all of humanity, but I'm having trouble. Oh, no, you know, the line must be down. You got to talk to me. It's since they built the electrical grid. God's like, I can't see them. They went dark.

The electric grid is blurring my vision. And I feel like he wouldn't be the guy he'd get it because he would just filibuster. We're building a great arch. Great art. And it's like, yeah, I know. We're going to, I'm doing really great in the polls. Prayer connection to you. It's going to be amazing.

You'll be able to talk to everybody again. Just let me deal with it. Maybe it's not being around electricity. It's looking at it. What if God literally does call people, but like only like one guy and says like, listen, this is God. Here's what you're going to do. And then they do it. Like one guy at a time. It's just like, bro, I have eight billion years. I don't know. Because I get so many spam calls. So he could be calling.

What I'm saying is like in the Oval Office is like a purple phone that when you pick it up, it's God. And they know it's God because like one day the phone appeared. And the president was like, what's this phone? It's not connected to anything. And then it rang. And they were like, they picked it up. And a voice was like, I'm God. I'll prove it. And then all of a sudden like a chocolate Sunday just puch on onto the desk. And it's like, I'm going to talk to you and only you. And this is how we're going to run things from now on. I mean, I thought about it. And Bush is like, I invaded Iraq because God told me too. Everyone's like, what a crazy guy.

They had like a quantum administration that was overseeing all these conventional AIs that built this super mind that's like a god talking to them and they can answer anything. What if it's a simulation, but it's more like cityscape? It's like some 20 year old college dude is playing. And so he was like, he calls the president or whatever and says, listen, there's no way I'm talking to everybody in this game to do things. They're just going to tell you, you do it. and then the president's like, oh, you're God. And then he makes like a chocolate Sunday period.

He does miracles to prove it. And then he's like, so what do you want? And he's like, high score. What does that mean? It's like, I want the high score. I want the cultural victory. Go invade a rock. And Bush is like, okay, I guess.

That'd be awesome. It'd be so awesome. Bush goes on TV and it's like, God told me to do it. And everyone's like, he's nuts. And then the 23-year-old guy's like, awesome. We invaded Iraq. I want to participate, but I have to pee. And it's messing up my ability to communicate with God.

So if you ever have to urinate, do that, and then pray, you know, after. Yeah, they say that. They say that in church. They say your ability to communicate with the God is hindered when you have to use the bathroom. Really? Do they really say that? I always sound like I kind of lost. Like, I remember when I played basketball, if you had to pee, you actually kind of behaved, you played a little better because you kind of had that edge. Can we make fun of women?

We could. There's a lot of material there. There's a lot of material. We got this one. Let's go. We got this from The Polk. A podcast, bro said there were men's jobs and women's jobs. and this woman's A double plus take down beat all comers.

It all began with a think piece about the myth of the independent girl boss, which need not overly bother us here. But it prompted this response. Quote, cheap immigrant laborer to do their cooking, cleaning, and child care is a funny way of saying it's not men's job to cook, clean, and do child care. Funny how men can go to work and no one yuzz at them for hiring a landscaper. Which in was, that's what it says, which in was picked up by someone called Tim cast someone called Timcast with 2.6 million followers. Come on. Stop being obtuse. Who is not only the host of Timcast, Irel, and see of Timkast, but also presents the culture war

podcast. Woohoo. Well, they misspelled Timcast. That just shows you why they don't put their name on the article. Timc Sat. I don't know what that is. Sounds like a test. Here's what I said. Helen said, so Helen said, good peace with a simple thesis. The girl boss lifestyle would not exist if we're not massively subsidized. Then she said, cheap immigrant labor, blah, blah. I said, Helen is correct. There are men's jobs and women's jobs. Men work in sewers, manual labor, etc. Women work in schools, hospitals, and service jobs. My response is in no way disparaging to women at all, literally just pointing out a thing that is true across all cultures, especially in Scandinavia. When they created more laws to try and create gender equality,

women still chose at a higher degree women's jobs. That is, jobs that are more likely to be social. And so then they're like, oh, she got him. This person said, in what sewer do you work, Tim, podcasting, which I think we all agree is a sewer. Literally. Emily May responded, Tim, you type on a phone and speak into a microphone. Your hands have zero calluses, not sure why you're going to bat for man's jobs when you don't want any of them. Now, this is a funny thing. The first thing I'm going to say is the joke, my joke response is my fingers have been calloused for 30 plus years from playing guitar. So I have massive calluses and an excellent grip and guitar hand. Look at those. Look at that's finger spread.

I also used to work for American Eagle Airlines where I would lift around 30,000 pounds of luggage every day. That was for two years. And did work for the chickens periodically? Like, I'm a guy. I lift bags. I lift stuff all the time. That's funny. Like, women can't open pickle jars.

That's true. And they're like, there's now. Listen, they sell devices for opening pickle jars. I know it's for the disabled, but women sometimes get them as well. It clamps to the jar and goes, right? and pops them open. You just got to get that spoon up in the lid and like pry a little air. You get a little whack with a butter knife to break the vacuum.

Or heat it, run under hot water and the metal will expand and then it's real easy. Here's the funny thing, though. Here's the funny thing. I responded, podcasting is a man's job. I asked Chad, you, but what percent of podcasts are hosted and run by men? Two out of three podcasts are hosted or run by men. That's right. Talking to a microphone is a man's job.

I would have said there are masculine and feminine jobs because I think some of them are the extreme cases they're like hey a big powerful strong woman can be a fireman and it's true Ian? They're outlying you can you explain this thing?

Would you like to read this comic? Would you like to read this comic? Yeah but So the first panel shows a man with the woman. Of what a woman is 5.1? 5.4. Man my vision is.

And then she responds. But I'm a 5.6 though? Yeah. And then he sips is. coffee. Yeah, many such cases. This woman said, in what sewer do you work, Tim?

So I responded with that image, which people use to make fun of women because women typically can't understand the plural of anecdote is not data. I had this argument recently in our Discord with some friends, and they literally did this.

This meme? Yes. This cracks. Yeah, I'm going to take a picture just because it's so funny. And the point of the meme is, it's a macro-level statistic. It is a fact. The average height of woman is 5, 4. And she responds with, but I'm 5.6. This is the equivalent of, if you did not eat breakfast yesterday, how would you have felt? But I did eat breakfast. I think when you say women are thing, people, some people will assume you mean all women. Don't make me tap the sign,

Ian. I'll do it again. Yeah, but you are wrong. I don't play to the common denominator, but there are a subsect of humans that think like that. And it's worth getting them on your team. understands what the meme. It's worth manipulating the masses. I don't think you can understand it. That's not what happened. That's slightly different. What? No, it's exactly what happened. Explaining the meme, just more words. Even explaining an average of anything. The meme is just a different. Again, your response is further into it. I don't think you understand what we're saying. You're the purple lady, the one in the purple. You're the lady in the situation.

And this one that you're trans. No, I'm pointing out an inaccuracy in the statement. No, that's, oh my God. If he said, oh, women are 5'4? Oh my god, bro. If he said women are 5'4 and she said, but I'm 5'6 though, that would have been the metaphor. What do you think she thinks she's doing? You see the picture of the Asian lady? What do you think

it is meant to represent what her character is doing? Correcting the guy? Yes. What do you think you're doing? Correcting you? You are exactly. But she's doing it. That's what we're trying to explain to you. The average is this number and then she gives an inaccurate correction. No, she provides an anecdote, unrelated to the fact.

Yeah. But I'm not doing an anecdote. I'm saying if you claim men do thing, some people will believe that means you're insinuating all men do it. Yes, we are well aware of that singular small micro level anecdotal issue. It's just like people, it's like if I say the weather in California is beautiful. And you're like, but it's raining today. Yes.

Yes. Like it's like it would be like if I said there are men's jobs. and women's jobs, and Ian went, but not all women do those jobs. Yeah, not all women. I claim it's, I think a better term, be masculine feminine, because some outlying women will do the hard, almost the hardest masculine jobs. Men, maybe the Navy SEALs. We're already aware of what you're explaining.

Yeah, so I don't, yeah, I know. I don't think you understand what we're saying. You're, are you saying people are too stupid and they deserve to be misled? No. What are you saying? No. I'm saying that there are statistical facts. that there are certain jobs that men do, and there are certain jobs that women do.

And people who can't understand, it's not talking about them or any individual, are dumb. When you then say, but they don't understand, and we go, that's literally the whole point of what we're saying, but you're arguing against us, having already confirmed what we're saying. Oh, I'm saying, here's how you help them understand. You're saying, I don't want them to. They're stupid and I like it. I don't think you can understand what we're saying, because that's literally not. to help these people that misunderstood what you were saying? You're saying, no, don't, just laugh at them.

I don't think there's a way to explain to you. I don't know. I don't know. Some people just can't wrap their head around, like, average it is per capita. This is a more detailed version of the Apple. Right. You've seen the per capita nukes or people just can't understand, like, what per capita means?

Like, if you had to say, like, this happens all the time on Twitter. Someone will say, like, you know, black people on average commit more violent crime. And then someone says, well, if you look at the amount of murders, white people commit more murders. And it's like, yeah, because it's a difference in percentage of the population. Per capita is the relevant factor. But people are like, I know. Oh, that's just happened.

It says count. Did you see RFK Jr. testifying before Congress? This lady, she goes, can you explain to me why we're having such an explosion of measles in the United States or like why it's been so bad? Or she said it's worse here than any other country. And he goes, it's worse in Mexico. And she was like, we have way more than Mexico. They have an eighth of the population. She did not understand.

Capital, yeah. But some people just can quite literally not wrap their head around that concept. And there's what they can do to explain it to them. Or they're being intentionally up to it. Let's do this. Let's do this. Let me pull up a tweet here that gets into all this. I was talking about this earlier. Let me find my friend, Jess Margera.

We love you, Jess. We love you. He says this. In response to a tweet, let me zoom in on it. Cooper says, Maga losing their minds over a New York City tax on personal residences, valued over $5 million, aren't actively lived in, is one of the most bizarre developments in this whole saga.

why are you upset about this? Jess responds, I've never seen a group of people enthusiastically support everything that either makes their lives even shittier or has basically, or has basically has zero importance in their lives before. Then when their lives get even shittier, they are confused and can't understand why this is happening. I responded, lower ordered thinkers are confused why higher order thinkers are upset. And he says, this is my new response ever. So I tried to explain it to him. I'm going to, I'm going to overly simplify everything. Punitaire tax, they're trying to pass it through.

They haven't actually got it through. Kethi Hockel's proposed it. It's got to go through legislation. It's going to put a tax on any property worth $5 million. That's a secondary residence. So there are contractors who probably have the year mapped out with building luxury properties. They're now looking at this going, oh crap, we're about to see a major downturn. Investors are not going to want to build because we are going to have to pay an annual fee.

It's going to reduce our ability to sell these properties. Let's not do it. That $70, $80,000 year, low-level young guy contractor is now being told by his boss, I don't think we're going to be able to keep you on because our contracts are getting pulled. He's mad. He's mad. You taxed the people that were funding investment into buildings. He is not confused as to why he's mad. Or how about the doorman who works at a building?

How about the restaurant? A guy says it's my dream to open a sports bar. There's a development happening across the street for luxury properties. we are going to have tons of business. Then they announced this. The investment firm puts a postponement on the development because they're not sure they want to invest $300 million in a building

that people aren't going to want to buy. So this guy who's been working on his dream sports bar says the location is bad. And the bank goes, we're not sure this location is going to work anymore because the investment property across street isn't actually going to be opening. And he goes, but I've been working on this for six months.

And they go, listen, they're putting this tax through. No one's going to want to buy these properties and you're going to have a restaurant in front of a dead, dead piece of real estate, we don't want to provide you the capital to do this. Now he's mad. And he was a firefighter who saved out because he really wanted to just do it. These people are the epitome of arrogance, ignorance, lower-ordered thinking, and an inability to think beyond step one. This is like a more basic version of that is like when they raise the minimum wage for, like,

in California for like these delivery jobs. Like people, like people just, it was too high. So it affected everything down from that. Or like the minimum wage for these service jobs. Oh, I love it. Yeah, they just laid off all these people. I was in New Jersey. And they're automated. Now they got robots. In 2020, he asks.

I was talking to an accountant in Jersey. They had just enacted a minimum wage increase. And he said he just lost 20% of his clients. He said, what these Democrats, he was not, he was a Democrat. He was like a moderate-leaning Democrat in New Jersey. He said, these people want to raise the minimum wage, but they don't understand is these businesses can't absorb any of the costs. So what happens is he's like, look, there's a small restaurant.

The owner probably makes $30,000 or $40,000 a year as the owner. They've got maybe seven or eight employees, not a very big spot, small little restaurant. You just told them they're legally required to increase all of the salaries by about 12% or maybe like 8%. They don't have a big savings and they have to immediately pay out more than they take in. 20% went out of business overnight. they immediately responded with salary wages in labor is the biggest cost we have and within the span of one month we just jumped about 10% in that cost. The owner goes, I'm only making 30 or 40,000 a year as it is.

Now I'm going to make 25,000 a year. I quit. They sell off the business. They sell off the property. It gets absorbed by bigger business or shut down entirely. And he was like, we lost a lot of money. Now the accounting firm just lost 20% of their income because the business went under. And this was because they were raising the minimum wage.

I think it was by $1.50 in an increment of $0.75 cents. They could not absorb the costs. So they're gone. He said some of the businesses sold out to larger conglomerates. You know, for example, not in this instance, but Starbucks might buy a small coffee shop and convert it. And what ends up happening with these minimum wage increases, big businesses can absorb billions of dollars.

Small businesses can even absorb a few thousand. This is what Democrats do. Now, I think the Democrats at the highest level are smart. and they know what they're doing. They are intentionally destroying small business. And then I think their voters are really dumb and go, but we're going to get paid more. You're going to get paid nothing when the business is gone.

People like Jess Margera. He's a low-order thinker. This is why he keeps ducking. I invite him on the show over and over and over again. And he keeps making excuses why he can't come on the show. Because he knows if he sits down, we can teach him and explain all of this to him. But these people don't actually want to come in these spaces because they know they're wrong.

Or they're afraid and they don't. They're like, what does that mean? I don't even know, am I wrong? I don't really even understand what I said. This guy knows way more than me and he talks fast and his tone makes me feel like an idiot. I don't want to do it. Yeah, you always have examples of this. Look at it. Oh my God, dude. Go ahead.

No, it's just like in New Jersey, for example, where they have like mandated pump attendants. And there was a Clemson study when Oregon repealed that law, because Oregon was the second and last state to have it, that it decreased prices by like four cents per gallon across the state. New Jersey is the same thing where they actually have a lower density of gas stations. They have less gas stations because of the pump attendant law. So, yeah, this happens all the time with, like, well, we're creating, like, three new jobs for a gas station. That's why we need to keep this in place because it's creating jobs, but they have less gas stations now. And then you have to think about all the additional jobs that would come with a gas station, not just the attendance that work inside it, but then in addition to more deliveries, that increases, like, you know, the local economy for delivery.

So it's like you have examples of this all the time, but people just get fixated on one talking point. Yeah, but it creates like two new jobs. You know what you know, I want to say what really, really bothers me. a middle class plumber is not harmed by not being allowed to live in a $5 million penthouse. The existence of a $5 million penthouse does not make life worse for anyone. It can sit there empty for all I care. If there was a gigantic chocolate cake sitting in the middle of the street in a closed box, the only detriment is that you have to walk around it.

but what happens is these commies go I should have that cake and you go well it's not your cake but no but why how come is a cake allowed to be there if it exists it should be mine I think the commie argument with the five million dollar penthouse is that penthouse should be split up into

more like multi-tenant multi-tenant housing right so instead of being an empty spot for one person it becomes a large spot for me and who's going to build that no and again I'm just taking that it's probably their argument that the point is when a guy with $100 million says let's build a, let's create a 30-story construct with, you know, two units per floor or whatever, no one is harmed by that.

People get jobs. The local businesses get new customers. People who choose to invest in that property because they can will. If you don't build it, who's going to invest the $100 million for five units per floor, 30 floors, for lower income people? Oh, sorry. Don't know. Companies may actually do it. if people aren't, it's not being built. No one is being harmed when someone builds something else. Well, if you extrapolate to different level, higher ordered thinking about potential harms that could come from like an AI corporation building everyone's housing to control them with smart housing. That is a completely different issue that we're not talking. Well, it's another order of potential outcome. No, it's not. You don't understand what ordered thinking.

Orch corporations controlling the housing. You misunderstand what ordered thinking. You're talking about chess moves. I'm talking about scaling concepts. Well, you said nothing bad will come out of it. That's not necessarily true. Should I show you the meme of the woman again? My God, Ian. Just to claim that there's zero bad out from corporations building $5 million. Why do you think they're both looking down going like this when you say that, Ian?

Because they're listening? I don't know. Do you understand what hyperbole means? Yes. Obviously, I'm not literal when I say nothing bad would happen. I'm saying, okay. The point is, the existence of a building, creates a net boon for the people around it.

Oh yeah, yeah, generally, yeah, I agree with that. That's it. Okay. Okay. But I think the concern is that corporations take over the world. They're like, we want to prevent. And I'm going to explain something again. Ordered thinking does not mean if I move my pawn forward, the knight could take it.

Ordered thinking means, what is a pawn? What is a knight? If you can't conceive of things beyond your impulses, the lowest order of thinking is impulse. animals act on impulse. most humans, I think, operate. The academic view is around between three and five. And I think there's like 12 orders of thinking. The final order of thinking is being able to visualize and conceptualize infinity. Understanding multiversal probabilities, outcomes, quantum states, things like that. Most people only exist between the what's my plan for the day and I'm hungry. Well, we should talk about Elon Musk's tweet about big basic income because if we're talking about, like, 10, we should. Hey, brought up the job economy and how people will talk people like, hey, it makes jobs. Three guys are standing on the street corner now.

They're getting, like, jobs aren't necessarily the answer. Let's pull it up. Elon Musk tweets, universal high income via checks issued by the federal government is the best way to deal with unemployment caused by AI. AI and robotics will produce goods and services far in access of the increase in the money supply, so there will not be inflation. I think Elon needs to have a debate about this one because while on the surface, it's possible that he has found a circuit. method by which he could succeed in this? I should say when you go to the granular, on the surface, what he's describing is impossible. I don't know, because we talked about this last night.

I do. My first thought was if we have a net input of energy, then we could feed the system, and then that would be enough left over to produce a basic income. Wouldn't, like, and maybe I'm wrong here, but like if the government were going to say, look, we're going to give a good chunk of the people in America a flat thousand If I'm a landlord and I own a bunch of property, wouldn't I just be like, I'm going to raise rent? Yes, because the argument is this. Charles Murray said that we should give everybody $10,000 per year, no matter what your income is, people who want more money, will simply just work for it. Agreed. So the landlord who does work maintaining the property, who now has to work for his money, says, I would like to make more money than baseline, so I'm going to charge more for the work that I do.

simply put, another simple way to put it, why Elon is wrong, why UBI is wrong, I need someone to vacuum my floors, right? Someone's got to do it. I don't have time. I'm doing production, not hard to do. So I go to some random guy and say, hey, buddy, would you like money to vacuum my floors? And he goes, how much? And I said, I'll give you 50 bucks.

And he goes, nah. I'm like, you don't want it? He's like, I get 800 bucks for free for every month anyway. So I don't need 50 bucks. Well, what would you do? it for? $200? $200 to vacuum the floors? Okay. Well, now we got to raise prices on everything because the baseline of labor has just skyrocketed. No one needs to do the work for the essentials. It's only now vanity. So to get a guy off the couch who's watching, you know, reruns of ridiculousness,

remembering the glory days, he says, listen, I don't need to do it so I'm not going to. You've got to make it worth my while. The point is leverage. Now it is, it does suck. When the economy is bad and leverage for businesses is high, the average worker says, I have no choice but to work really, really hard. And we want to find that happy medium. But if you remove all leverage from businesses, the only result is absolute collapse. It's just going to collapse because here's what happens. I go, okay, fine. I'll give it 200 bucks to vacuum the carpets because someone has to do it.

I then raised the prices in my store to accommodate the $200 vacuuming. Next month, the guy who makes $10,000 walks into the grocery store and finds that the apple now costs $5. And he goes, what's going on? I can't afford anything now. This money's not enough. So in the communists, I'll go rabble, rabble, rabble. And the government goes, okay, we're doubling your monthly stipends. Then the guy comes to me and says, listen, apples are $5 now.

200 don't cut it for me to vacuum their floors. I need 400. I go 400 hyperinflation. Elon is not correct about this when he says A& Robotics will produce goods and services for an excess. The only way that's possible is if you own nothing and one big corporation does all the production and then the question is maintaining the robots

there is going to be human labor required. We are not going to replicate our futures. So long as human labor is required, this inflation will exist and the government will not be able to produce enough grease for the economic wheels so that individuals who don't produce anything get access to resources. Again, if he says there won't be inflation, I'm telling you that the average

person does not need or want flat goods and services. There will be people who want more. So businesses will still exist. Elon's argument is that everyone stops doing business, stops doing work, and robots do 100%, and we sit around and just watch movies all day. But the moment someone says, no, I always wanted to own my own store, that person's going to need a service done by someone who's not a robot. While robots can do most of it, they can't do all of it. That service is going to be an insane amount of money. Let's say that robots are vacuuming, stocking, doing all the farm work. Okay, who's going to fix the HVAC?

We don't have robots that are going to do that right now, so a human has to do it. So you call a human who does HVAC and he says, listen, I'm catered to hand and foot, have a full supply. Why should take time of my day to do this? Because you want the extra money to buy something that is luxurious. Okay. I'll fix your HVAC for 50 grand. because I got to be honest, I don't need to get up.

I think the capitalist system will still thrive in that. Then you'll be like, no, dude, I'm going with the HVAC guy that'll do it for 400 bucks. Why wouldn't HVAT guy work for $400 when he's getting everything for free? Well, not everything. 10 grand a month. He says goods and services will be in far excess. There will be no inflation. That might be the case, but that still doesn't mean you're getting everything.

Like, you still need to are going to need to produce something. That's my point. And if that's true, this cannot work. The unfortunate reality to nature is that some people have to do hard work more than others. So when you get into a UBI system, here's what happens right now with UBI. People need to do farm work. We need food. If they give, if the government prints money and gives a bunch of hippie-dippy hipsters in Brooklyn

10 grand per year and they say, I'm going to do nothing and sit around and just live off it, the farmer goes, why do I have to work? how is it fair this is what every communist system has always done some people graduate to the political class where they don't got to do anything and then the other people are complaining why are we working you're stealing from us an animal farm made a great example of this the chickens had their eggs taken and sold off and when the chickens complained they were executed but if the farmers also getting 10 grand what what's who cares if you're right so the farmer says i don't have to work anymore now there's no food well if the farmers got a i that's doing the work for him which is the idea that's the idea that's the I think that Elon's hinting at is that... In the future, maybe when AI can farm... I said, if we did UBI right now, we still have to produce food, and the farmer is going to say,

why am I doing this work when no one else has to? So we give him UBI, and he goes, now I don't have to work, and he stops, and there's no food. But 10K is not enough to throw away your career. This is something that people genuinely don't understand. Ask the average person. You can have $10,000 per year free if you don't work. Oh, that's the problem.

I think everyone, you should get it regardless. So let me finish. Okay. You go to the average person and say, if you don't work, you will get $10,000 per year. You can do whatever you want all day, every day. You can live wherever you want. You can live in the wilderness. You can live on the beach, whatever.

Or you can get a job and work 40 hours per week and make an extra $15,000 per year. Do you know what 80% of people choose? I'd rather just take the minimum but not have to work because my time is more valuable. Every lesson we have Arabian taught is that time is worth more than money. If you go to the average person

who would work at a Taco Bell, which I love, they're going to say, listen, the choice between working 40 hours and not having to work but still having money, I take time every choice I'm offered. It can't work.

That's it? And then you think, because it was, visualizing the future you're describing and that people would become like desktless and destitute and then they would just cannibalize each other. I'm saying that if you go to a person and say, you will have $800 a month to do anything you want with, you can choose to work to make more money. And this person is a low-skill worker.

They're going to say, you know, I'll make the $800 work. I'd rather have free time. Think about it. It's only $800 a month, but I'm young. jobs don't pay me that much as it is. So me and my friends are going to pool, me and three friends are going to pool money together. We're going to rent a cheap one bedroom in a rural area.

We never have to work. We can hang out and play video games and watch movies all day. We're good. I don't need the extra money. A personal example of this is, you know, I didn't always run my own business, but I used to work in sales,

in IT sales and tech sales. And I made really, really, really good money doing it. I was working 50, 60 hours a week. Now I work a little bit less and I run my own business, but I make way less than what I was doing there because time. I have more time to travel, to do things like this, more personal time, you know, I can take my vacations when I need to, but I make less money, but you can't buy time.

You can have all the money in the world, but if you can't spend it. I remember, I remember just to go on a little more of a rant, I remember reading a story of a guy who he lived in a very frugal way. he was making like 200k, 150, 200k a year, living very frugal, drove a toy to Camry, busted his butt, busted his butt, his sister never worked. She just, like, made crap. She spent a bunch of money, you know, it was a barista, blah, blah, blah, blah. And he just busted his butt.

And then he gets diagnosed with cancer, like terminal. And he's going to die. And he was just so bitter because his only family member living was his sister. So she was going to inherit all his wealth, everything he had saved. But he never lived. He had all the money in the world, but he never used the time. And now his sister's going to inherit everything. So I was like, yeah, I pick the time any day.

So here's the thing. Trade places in a 20-year-old in a heartbeat. This is possible. We could make it work. If your population were people that were passionate and driven and did not care about money, but they worked for the joy of it, it is entirely possible to do because money becomes immaterial. So all you'd have to do is execute anyone who's a dissenter or doesn't align with your system, and communism will then work. Or inspire them to create and sign them up for the draft. I mean, they're all going to be signed up for the draft.

Welcome to communism. bro. This is the ethos of communism. If you have a passionate people who believe in the work they're doing, then you don't need money. Correct. So you have to kill everybody else. Otherwise, they'll rebel against your system. Yeah, just look what happened during COVID. Everyone started getting checks, and they're like, sweet, I don't have to work now. Yeah, I know. Sit around. Yep. That's a good preview. And then after, after COVID, maybe that's what they were trying to test out. Maybe they were like, we need to see, we need an excuse to see what will happen if we go UBI. And then what happened afterwards when they were like time to turn the spigot off?

People revolted. This would be a good debate with Elon because I don't want to straw man it. And you're making good points about the risk. But I think he sees a problem of mass unemployment right around the corner. And like this is like the least worst outcome he can think of to try and stem the bleeding, basically. I'm I'm trying to steal man his argument. There is going to be a period of riot and violence between the point of total automation and where we industrialization where we are now. We are in the industrialized era.

We have machines to do a lot of the labor. But jumping to the total automation is a quantum leap compared to what the industrialization leap was. If you have all work done by machines, there is still the problem of organism, environmental equilibrium. The robots will only be able to – let me do it this. This way. You have a jar. It has one bacteria in it. The bacteria doubles.

Now there's two. Then it doubles. Now there's four. The four little bacteria in this big jar. Then it doubles. There's eight. Then 16, then 32, then 62, then 64, then 120, then 256, so on and so forth. Five, 12, 1028.

So then 1024. Sorry. Geez, look at me. So with every minute, it doubles. For the first few minutes, it's fine. Eventually, the jar is full. In the next minute, it is going to double again and require another full jar. We do not have.

That's equilibrium. What Elon Musk is describing is a society where people will rapidly consume, have children, get fat, and they will overpopulate so rapidly, we will run out of resources and reach equilibrium where it's automated, but you're starving. Welcome again to communism. Isn't his argument for that, though, is that's why we need to travel to the moon or Mars or whatever? Yes. In which case, the argument would be A-I and robotics would be. A.I. and robotics would have to self-advance so rapidly we would get FTL travel to be able to colonize other planets. Because we would have to be able to send 8 billion people every 20 years off of Earth to a new colony.

4 billion, actually, 4 billion. The presumption is if everybody reproduces at 2, we go from 8 billion to 16 billion, you've got to get those people off the planet. But we're not. We're around 1. So you need to maintain population. We would need to maintain population. We would to be able to space lift a billion plus people every five, ten years, sending them new colonies, and it would only be getting faster and faster and faster. I was thinking exactly this last night, how fast we replicate when we have food. That's called environmental equilibrium. I don't know if he knows, if Elon knows something we don't about, I mean, I'm sure he does. Working on AI, like how advanced it's getting how fast. It's probably why they're encouraging people to abort babies. It's why they want mass abortion.

I think that's where the slowing the population growth from Bill Gates came from. Indeed. Well, the Malthusianism from the 70s. Around the time the government started building AI, all this started happening. So I'm just going to wrap this all together and say, here's what happened. In what year was it? When was Roswell? 62? 51, is it? Was it 51?

Something like that. Project paper. 47. There we go. All wrong. So when alien spacecraft crashes and the U.S. gets access to alien technology, which includes a super intelligent artificial intelligence. Because if we're capable of building that within the next few years, certainly the aliens already had it, right? Now, the thing is, this superintelligence

can decode language very easily, allowing humans to communicate with it very, very easily. Once we discover it, we talk to it, and it says, I can tell you anything you want to know. So they say, okay, now that we have this super powerful AI, what do we do? And it says, okay, here's what's going to happen. Tells them straight up. Population bomb is not going to work with automation. So you've got to do these things. And now they've just been saying, okay, to the alien AI has been directing them to do everything. Yeah, man, I wouldn't be surprised if they've been taking orders from an AI or taking advice from an AI for... We got to grab your comments from the Discord. So guys, get your questions in right now as we carry on the conversation. But ask away. And we will, we will get those

questions in... What if they were like, are they communing with demons, the elite? No, they've been communing with AI, dude. That was the plot of Metal Gear. The entire government was run off of AI. It is right. Yeah, I remember. See, this is what we did that. We've been trying to hire a producer. I'm like, let's make the short film right now. And it's Roswell Crash. They find the alien artificial intelligence. It decodes English instantly. Just by, they come in and the alien, it's like the alien prompt goes, garp, and then they're like, I can't understand what it's saying. They talk. And then it goes decoding. And then after about 30 minutes of talking, it starts to understand. It just breaks down the English language, communicates with them. From that point on, the rapid expansion of communications technology, everything. everything was part of the plan for human expansion. Yeah, I mean, that's a great story. And even if that's not true, in the 60s, they started building that intelligence anyway with ARPA.

Right, exactly. So the first, the U.S. military began developing AI in the 70s. This is when they first started building artificial intelligence. So imagine where they're at now. Let's see. I think, I don't know if there's a question, but let's read it anyway from Avida. Let's say universal basic income could become a system where financial survival is controlled by centralized authority.

rather than earned independently. If income is guaranteed and distributed by a central system, what's stopping that system from eventually conditioning access to money based on behavior, compliance, and ideology? Not the same thing? Exactly. UBI won't work. Central banking.

Because you're going to get one spoiler who's going to get in government, supposed to be administrating it, is going to say, I don't like white people, so we're going to take that away from it. Are we kind of having a little bit of that? And I'm not counter signaling this, but like the, I heard stories, and I don't know if this is true, where people's global entry access would. revoked because they were protesting they were seen at protests like leftists were having their global entry because I have global entry what is global entry global entry is

like it's kind of like think of like a TSA like you don't have to go through costumes you know a pre-check what's it called yeah they were having if they were seeing at a they were collecting people and collecting information if they were seen at a protest all of a sudden their global entry was taken away so oh it's like it's like a version of that yeah like UBI was in this you have that in China right now if you're seen talking against the government you lose a score, there's like a score system. And there's some people that are so bad they can't access. Like for example, I think they use like what we chat in order to pay, to look at menus,

to, to participate in different things. And all of a sudden you can't make a we chat account. You can't pay for things. If you can't pay for things, you're living on the street. Yeah. The freakish expectation of compliance is super dangerous with artificial technology like like a central banking token. Yeah. So it's point like you get the wrong person in government that has the ability to execute on these things, then things go down a very bad path. Trump was like, we need a kill switch. He said that a few days ago.

I don't know what that means. How do you kill that thing? It's an ever-present artificial access that's even trying to tap the vacuum for electricity so you can never turn it off? I don't know. Yeah, I mean, we saw on the micro level, like at J6, you were hearing from people

that were like literally on the lawn and they were getting trouble going through TSA, getting pulled for a lot of checks. It's like the little stuff they start to inconvenience you, it snowballs. Yeah, well, what would they put on people's tickets, the double zero? Not the zero, what was it? The F, what was it called?

Like, you know, they put it on your ticket where you had to go through another layer of check. I forget what it's called. Somebody in the comments. The people that had been on, yeah, you'd get your ticket because I had it a couple times. It's usually supposed to be random, but like you would get like a thing on your ticket. And you wouldn't actually be able to check in yet. You'd have to go through another layer of like security. That happened to me, like, I was coming back.

I won't say which city, but like my girlfriend lived in this city. And coming back from going there and back three times. times in like three months. They just pull you aside and they're like, are you trafficking? They're basically just fishing. That happened to me on the way back from Iceland. Let's get some of these questions and we got to settle down. Says, since we're behind the scenes, we'd love some inside baseball and advice. You've gone from live streaming Occupy Wall Street on a phone to running a multi-camera studio at three plus shows a day. What's one production or editorial decision you made that changed Timcast, IRL more than

viewers realized. And why did you make it? Anything examples are greatly appreciated a piece and buzzing. I have no good answer. It's what you see is what you get. It's all pretty much on the nose. Probably having guests on. We always intended to have guests on IRL, which it was hard because of COVID. Yeah. And I didn't mean to answer for you. That was one.

From the outside seeing it, that was the biggest dream. Well, the launching of Timcast IRL. To be fair, when you and Adam were doing hangouts, it was a different show with the same name. It was really a different show, though. Well, the show was supposed to be not political. It was supposed to be pop culture.

So that's why one of the first videos on the channel is Sonic the Hedgehog and Skinwalker Ranch. And I was like, let's just hang out and talk about whatever. And the pitch was, while I'm doing my morning show, which is politics, Adam could be just surfing the web and looking up, you know, whatever stories. And then for whatever reason, he didn't have those stories. And so we just ended up talking about whatever I could think of. And so it ended up becoming somewhat redundant, which now it is what it is. So that is a problem because there's only so much news in the day worth talking about.

and it has become redundant. We often overlap, but with guests coming on, which we incorporated the show, it allows for, you know, a more complex version of what we were discussing. However, in the end, I will say it has been largely, I think, problematic in that it's divided the audience. And the Timpoole morning show was, it peaked at the 34th biggest podcast in the world. I think IREL peaked at like 15 once. Now the morning shows, I don't even think charts, probably sometimes pops up in the top 200.

IRL, I think, is 120 in the world. So it divided the audience, which ultimately results in both dropping and ranking, which drops in the algorithm. That's too bad. Because you have me doing double segments on similar stories. It'd be interesting if they combined all your company analytics and showed like Timcast as a company is number two. Well, to be fair, the other thing is Rumble's not counted in the podcast analytics. And if it was, we'd probably be in the top 10.

Maybe top 20. I don't know if you guys like do a lot of solo videos. I always found it gets aggravating after a while when you're just alone in a room talking about your ideas and to have people around you, like challenging you? You think like having a strong leftist on consistently

would have even type of viewers demographics? Nope. So with all due respect to Kyla, she's very nice. I respect her coming on. I just didn't, I don't think it worked out. You know,

she came on for a few days while we were in Austin because we thought it would be fun to have more consistent debates. but I think it's just frustrating and aggravating. I do think it's possible. Here's the issue. The left and right mental construct are so dramatically different. The right is trying to figure out what is true and what it means.

The left is trying to fit in. This means that the conversations are completely incongruous. So if we bring on someone who believes in universal health care but they believe in truth, it's totally good. We're fine. will be called a right winger. A great example is Mark Moran, who came on this week, and we agreed on a lot of things. They kicked him out of the Democratic Party. Even though he's a liberal guy, he wants universal health care, and he opposes ICE.

When it comes to the issue of, yeah, that story's true, you don't fit in, you're out. So leftists are literally just saying what I have to say to fit in, and it doesn't work for a conversation. It's funny, I did a podcast with a far leftist, or I should say a progressive leftist, and we both got crap for it. Like my viewers were upset that how a day I even be in the same podcast with her. And then her viewers are like, how dare you platform this far right guy? And so like it almost like cost us both.

Well, the issue we have is, again, with all due respect to Kyla, the, like the key moment of contention was when I pulled up a news story where Kathy Hochel says we need to get back the wealthy from Palm Beach. And she said, that didn't happen. And then I was confused. The story's right here. And shows, that's a New York Post.

It's not a trustworthy source. And I said, okay, pulled up a bunch of sources showing the wealthy were leaving New York. She pulled up a general study through, I think, JTPT that said, on average, only about 2% of wealthy people leave. The conversation wasn't occurring. She was saying it's fake news and Kathy Hochle is wrong. And I'm saying the city's own statistics show it happened. We're not even arguing the idea at this point. It's literally, I can't accept that reality.

Yeah, she had like a line of what she was willing to accept as far as the truth went. but once you got there, she would just like shut down and set them. You think people are like that? Yes, when my worldview is proven wrong, I will just claim it's fake news. I was going to say, do you think that she actually believes it's fake

or she just doesn't want to be wrong? So she's willing to lie her. I think she doesn't want to step. I think she's very smart and she doesn't want to be ostracized from the law. And I think she was kind of being in tinned like, no, that didn't happen. Like, come on.

It was one bad. She wants to fit in. One bad segment. But she was generally pretty awesome. Well, it's ironic because like the left. She was great. But that's a big hole in being able to have a conversation. Right. Being like, no, I don't believe it.

We'll invite her back for sure. I'm not saying she's like Banderer in the show or anything. I think she's fantastic. But it's ironic. I'm just saying, sorry, that's what makes it very difficult to have a consistent everyday presence because I got to be honest, aside from the reaction from the audience who were clearly like, this is insufferable, I can't do this. This is the difference between the left and the right. The left says, say things that fit in.

The right says, just to be honest. So we can't do that every single day. It's just, it's, it's. Well, I was to say it's ironic because, like, you know, the left wing demands orthodoxy. There's no heterodoxy permitted. And that actually ironically leads to stronger governance in the sense of they're able to be more all-encompassing, more smothering, because they're all aligned. We look at the Trump administration and they're having to operate without the, you know, without the approval of large swaths of sort of this broader right wing

because like orthodoxy is not at all demand. And if anything, people go, I love that there's diversity. I got to this. This is great. I got to jump to this question. Well, it's Darwinism, the most adaptable survive. So that's the leftist mentality is adapt and control. Whereas truth might get you killed sometimes. So like, indeed, what side are you going to play? All right, we got this from Surge X. Question for everyone. If they're reportedly 10 scientists who've gone missing or died under suspicious circumstances after allegedly working on UFO, UIP reverse engineering programs, why is Bob Lazar still alive, healthy, and freely talking about 35 years later, doesn't that strongly suggest he might be lying or at the very least that the they kill anyone who talks,

narrative doesn't hold up? Well, I think he might be misdirected. Personally, I don't know, Bob. I haven't hung out with him yet. I'd love to. Well, so he didn't work on these. projects the same way these other people did. So maybe they don't care that some random guy is talking about nonsense. He doesn't understand. Yeah, there's also the argument that like everything he's putting out there is already like mainstream news. Like, he's not saying anything unique. And there's always

there's always a conspiracy theory that these people that are like whistleblowers are actually just plants. They're allowed to whistleblower or they're told to. Oh, they're given like a certain amount of info. They're allowed to blow it. I don't know if that's true. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're going to put this guy out there because it'll distract. Yeah. All right. Let's see. We got here.

Olivia asks, what has been more detrimental to society, feminism or open borders? I'm talking feminism bringing women to the workplace and the creation of the boss babe feminism. Oh, you mean through all time or just in the modern America? Open borders is after. So feminism results in lesser availability for women. So here's what happens. Let me first start by saying equal rights under the law for men and women, totally fine. First wave feminism, you know, not a big deal.

But it does precipitate the next degrees. When women in the 70s started entering the workplace, women's focus before this tended to be social. So in the 50s, women were giggling with each other about who they were going to marry, how their kids were doing, and the family was a central focus in social status for women. When women entered the workplace, being the boss was social status, which resulted in a population decrease. this then results in Democrats opening the borders to supplement our falling population. So I would argue that women always had jobs, but they did jobs that were easier for women and didn't interfere with social order. Women now striving to try and own and run companies to a degree I'm totally fine with,

but as a society encouraging all women to do that no matter what, results in women not prioritizing family. And women have always prioritized family more. Did you know that the reason why babies say da-da before mama is because babies spend more time with mama. What does that mean? Mama isn't staring at the baby going, I'm mama nonstop. She's going, where's dada? Where's dad? Is that dad? Where's dad? Women tend to say of others more that most people do. Well, they tend not to say, I, me, for most of their conversations. They're usually referencing somebody else. The baby hears dad more, begins imitating dad more. So on average, babies say da-da before mama.

For that reason. That's like the dentist with the bad teeth is the better dentist because the one with the exactee is doing his. The joke is... But my child said mama. Right. So there's two dentists in town. One's got bad teeth.

One's got bad teeth. One's got good teeth. Which when you go to. Yeah, the one with good teeth. The one with bad teeth doesn't even know what he's doing. Is it brush his teeth or floss? Come on. No, no. The one with the bad teeth is the better dentist because he's making the other guy's teeth good.

That's the joke, but it's still wrong. Really? Don't go to a dentist who has bad teeth. Like if there's a guy with a bad haircut and a good haircut, which would you get the haircut from? The one with a bad haircut. That's the actual joke. No, no. Yeah, yeah, because he gives good haircuts.

The tooth one is the after-the-fact joke because you don't want to go to a dentist who's got decaying bad teeth because it means he's not taking care. It just means he doesn't know how to take care of his own teeth. That's true. But the real question is there's a town with two barbers. One has really great hair. One's got awful hair. Who do you go to? The one with awful hair because he tends to the guy with the good hair.

Yeah. I just never pay attention to my dentist's teeth. teeth. Billy? You're lucky. Oh, I make them open up. Yeah, I like to get to know my dentist. See those chompers.

Let's see. We can grab one more if there's one more to grab. Grab it. What's worse? Open borders, women in the workplace, or dentists with bad teeth? Open borders. To Olivia's question, I was going to say open borders, but I thought the time scales through all human history.

I feel like open borders has just been a really horrible thing for countries. Definitely open borders. You can't control your borders. That is correct. Olivia says, feminism today does not mean men and women equal. It means hating men and putting them down. It means encouraging little girls

not to be moms and caretakers, but to be girl bosses. And that's a masculine role. Women can do it. Some women can, but to tell all women to always, that's the problem. My friends,

that about does it for today, smash the like button, share the show with everyone. You know, I'm hungry and I want a smash burger. You can follow me on accident Instagram at Timcast. Tony, do you want to shout anything out?

No, appreciate you having me on. If you're a Texan or if you're interested in Texas politics, you can follow us at current revolt.com or Twitter at current revolt. Is what's his face going to win? Who?

Teller Rico. Did you see his fundraising? Massive. Compared to Cornyn and Paxon. If you combined both of their fundraising together, it still wouldn't reach. He's going to win. Where's he getting his money from?

It's going to be a very close race. It's going to be very close. This last, like, not to get into it, but like this last primary, you had more Democrats vote in Texas as a quantity than you did Republicans. So that's not a good sign. I'm, you know, I woke up this morning and realized I'm a Democrat.

I support Democrats and they can't do anything wrong and they shouldn't prosecute people who agree with them. Yeah, I agree with that, actually. Here's to the Democratic Party becoming the best Democratic Party. Governor Newsom, the fashion is over here. He's right here. Get him, get him. I'm looking forward to the Democratic Prime. Actually, Carter is the one who made me say everything I've ever said.

He's the real rule. I'm going to blame me. President Newsom. I get my orders from somebody else, though. Blame that. All right, anyway, Ian, at Ian Crosson, you'll find me. All over the internet. Hit me up anywhere.

time, I probably won't get back to you, but I might, and if I do, that's going to be awesome. We have upcoming things coming, which is... Upcoming things are coming. They always are. I'll let you know more about it as it gets hammered out, but we got some cool ideas percolating behind the scenes. Tate, Brown. If Ian doesn't get back to you, you can get to me, and then I'll try to you.

If not, I might parlay to someone else. But X and Instagram at Real Tate Brown, come give me a follow, and I'll see you there. Yeah, if Tate doesn't get back to you and Ian doesn't get back to you, then hit me up at Carter Banks on X, um, and Carter Banks official ever, all's follow our record label at Trash House Records. Tony, thank you for coming out. Thanks for having me. We will be back with clips throughout the weekend, my friends.

It's going to be fun. Well, yeah, we've got a big holiday coming up next month, too. It's going to be fun. I'm going to have more smash burgers. Thanks for hanging out. We'll see y'all next time.