Timcast IRL - THE WAR IS OVER, Trump Announces CEASEFIRE In Israel Iran War w/ Tina Descovich

Episode Date: June 24, 2025

Tim, Phil, Ian, & Shane are joined by Tina Descovich of Moms For Liberty to discuss Trump announcing a ceasefire deal between Israel & Iran, Iranian Uranium going missing, SCOTUS approving Trump depor...ting illegal immigrants to "third countries" like South Sudan, and Joe Scarborough defending Trump over US strikes against Iran.   Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) Ian @IanCrossland (everywhere) Shane @ShaneCashman (everywhere) Serge @SergeDotCom (everywhere) Guest: Tina Descovich @TinaDescovich (X)

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Donald Trump has announced a ceasefire between the U.S., Israel, and Iran to take effect in a matter of hours. Now initially when he posted this on Truth there was some conflicting information, but it does seem as the dust settles numerous outlets are now reporting that Iranian officials have confirmed They have a ceasefire between the US and Israel this coming just after Iran launched missiles at you at a US base Nobody was injured, but should this prove to hold if Donald Trump was able to pull this off? I will just say the man has a tremendous victory right now, so let us all just
Starting point is 00:00:47 hope and pray the ceasefire sticks, the shooting stops, and this is the effective end of the war, to which Trump is calling the 12-day war. If, however, one of these factions escalates conflict and begins shooting, it will be a disaster. But I am not here to earn points. I am not here to try and be proven right. I am simply here to say, let us hope Trump is victorious in this. I personally am not a fan of the strikes in Iran, but if the ceasefire is now and this does not escalate, we are in a good spot. Let's all hope for that. I know there are a lot of bad people out there hoping that Trump fails but for the sake of the world let's put that aside right now and say let's hope this sticks. So we're going to talk about that we've got a bunch of other news Trump
Starting point is 00:01:33 just won a massive Supreme Court ruling allowing him to pick back up on deportations we'll get to that and ladies and gentlemen I predicted this MSNBC is now defending Donald Trump because war sells baby and when when you're a president and you engage in warfare, all the pundit class are going to clap and cheer. You know why? Well, partly because they're deep state cronies, but also because their ratings go up and they love to see their cost per view or their CPM skyrocketing. So Trump's always doing a good job when you're blowing stuff up.
Starting point is 00:02:03 It looks like this may be working out pretty well. And Trump is going to be receiving a lot of praise if this proves to be the end of the war, meaning he was able to take out Iran's nuclear program or at least seriously hinder it without a dramatic escalation. So we're gonna get into all that, my friends. Before we do, we got a great sponsor. We got AMAC, my friends. Check out AMAC. Let's great sponsor. We got AMAC. My friends, check out AMAC.
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Starting point is 00:05:00 Deskovich. Deskovich. Easy enough. I should have got that. Who are you? What do you do? I am the CEO and co-founder of Moms for Liberty. We are the largest grassroots nonprofit organization of moms across the country that are fighting to defend parental rights at all levels of government. Right on. Well, we do have another story about parental rights organization filing a suit over a university allowing men into the university. So it should be great. Thanks for joining us. It should be fun.
Starting point is 00:05:29 Ian is here. Hi everyone. I'm back. I feel like we're manifesting reality in real time. So let's do it. Phil, baby. Oh, we got it. We also have Shane Cashman on the head.
Starting point is 00:05:36 Shane is here. I'm here in the corner. Upon hearing about the ceasefire, do you think someone should make a wellness check for Lindsey Graham? There's a lot of people that need a wellness check. Yeah, Mark Levin. Well, anyway, I'm Shane Cashman. I'm the host of inverted world live I'll be leaving here at 940 tonight going live at 10 o'clock to 12 a.m Taking your phone calls. The phone lines will be open if you have a weird story come and tell us about it
Starting point is 00:05:58 We're also gonna talk about a giant eyeball falling out of the sky and real quick I wanted to say this weekend was my four-year anniversary of Tim cast Wow Thank you, Tim, and I'm grateful for everything you've done for me and it's amazing the show has been into the sky. And real quick, I wanted to say this weekend was my four year anniversary of Timcast. Wow. Thank you, Tim. And I'm grateful for everything you've done for me. And it's amazing. The show has been really awesome the past few weeks. Since opening up callers to anybody
Starting point is 00:06:14 and launching the Monday through Thursday show, viewers have been skyrocketing. Yeah, it's wild. People have been calling in. It's popping off. It's been amazing, a lot of fun. So thank you everyone watching and calling in. YouTube's got that raid function.
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Starting point is 00:06:35 Hello everybody. My name is Phil Labonte. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band, All That Remains. I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary. Let's get into it. Here's the story from Politico. Trump announces Israel Iran ceasefire
Starting point is 00:06:46 The announcement comes after the US waded into the 12-day conflict over the weekend They say Trump and a post on truth social said the ceasefire will take effect just after midnight on the East Coast of the United States with the war slated to officially end 12 hours later quote This is a war that could have gone on for years and destroyed the entire Middle East, but it didn't and never will. Neither Israel nor Iran immediately confirmed Trump's announcement that they'd agreed to a ceasefire. Both countries have been indirectly fighting since the October 7th attacks against Israel by Tehran-backed militant groups, I'm sorry, Tehran-backed Palestinian militant groups
Starting point is 00:07:19 at Hamas, and they have traded direct fire intermittently since 2024. But after Israel attacked Iranian nuclear facilities earlier this month, the two longtime Middle East adversaries have launched volleys of drones and missiles against each other. Now it is being confirmed by Reuters that a senior official said that they have agreed to a ceasefire.
Starting point is 00:07:41 We have this from Trey Yankst of Fox News, diplomat briefed on the ceasefire talks to Fox News saying, President Trump spoke with Qatar's Emir and informed him the U.S. got Israel to agree to a ceasefire with Iran. The president asked Qatar to help persuade Iran to do the same. Following that, Vice President Vance coordinated with Qatar's prime minister on the details. This effort proved successful. And following discussions with the Qatari PM, the Iranians agreed. The deal was coordinated at the highest level by the president and vice president and the Qatari emir and prime minister directly.
Starting point is 00:08:11 Despite having been attacked just hours earlier, the Qatari set aside their grievances and prioritized regional security to get the deal done. So just before this announcement, actually a couple hours before it was videos emerged of Iran launching ballistic missiles at Qatar targeting the US base should this prove to hold I just got to say Trump he's he's he's hit a grand slam with this one if the war officially ends he can say that he he it's a war powers resolution he's allowed to take military action. No further military action is needed. We have a ceasefire. If within the next 12 hours the fighting has stopped,
Starting point is 00:08:50 Trump's got a tremendous historic victory. Libertarians are gonna be most affected, I think. They're gonna be very, very upset that this happened and that the sky didn't fall, it didn't expand into a wider war. It was just a strike and Iran was like, well, we're not really in a position to do anything about this, are we?
Starting point is 00:09:10 And took the actual self-preservation route. Why are they mad? Because they wanted to see this disintegrate? Well, because they were all predicting that there was gonna be a massive upheaval in the Middle East, it'll turn into a broader war. It'll turn into World War III, blah, blah, blah. But you look around and it speaks to actually the realistic conditions of the international
Starting point is 00:09:34 rivals the US has. Russia doesn't have the ability to take on the US. They can't take on the Ukraine. They can't handle Ukraine. They're not going to be able to take on the US. So they're not going to really step in to help Iran. Same thing with China. China has a significant incentive to keep the status quo, particularly in the Strait of Hormuz, because they get like, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:56 half their oil or whatever. They get to do tons of business there. So China was just like, no, you're not shutting down the Strait of Hormuz. They had no friends at all and no one was there to support them so I think that speaks to the I'm stoked for peace yeah there's peace yeah I do leave it to Trump to start already branding a war like he's already known there's a lot in this message it wasn't a war and a ceasefire doesn't mean a peace agreement sometimes when you're in a war you'll call a ceasefire for a short period and then you'll go back to fighting so it doesn't mean but there never was a war to mean a peace agreement. Sometimes when you're in a war, you'll call a ceasefire for a short period and then you'll go back to fighting. So it doesn't mean, but there never was a war to call a peace agreement for anyway. They, they fired what like 13 or 14 missiles into
Starting point is 00:10:31 Qatar and they all, but one of them were shot down. One of the missiles was errant. So they just let it go. Yeah. So where's it going? I personally don't trust anything coming out of this administration at the moment. They just sneak attacked Iran. I imagine they're gonna do it again. But like you said, their face is on the ground, they're being stomped on, their bones are breaking, they have no choice but to picture. How many people live in Iran, Ian? What's that?
Starting point is 00:10:53 How many people live in Iran? There's 92 million, but I haven't done the research. I haven't done the research. I respect what you are saying, Ian. The Trump administration, this is where I'm cautious, they have made a lot of comments about negotiating peace, negotiating good faith, while they were actually orchestrating
Starting point is 00:11:07 a sneak attack on Iran. Now, if it weren't for the subsequent reporting from numerous individuals involved that there was a ceasefire, initially I was skeptical, it's like, I don't believe it. Trump announces they got a ceasefire, and then if Iran keeps attacking, it's Iran that becomes the aggressor.
Starting point is 00:11:21 However, it does look like Trump is trying to avoid escalation in the region and just wanted to take out as much of their nuclear enrichment as possible. I don't know that they did, like if you wanna argue efficacy, there's a lot of people saying 900 pounds of uranium is missing, what did they actually do? It's like, oh, you know, they did what they could
Starting point is 00:11:44 in terms of that agenda item. The argument here is that Trump has, under the War Powers Act, it's an old bill, if there's an imminent threat, he can order a military strike. Within 60 days, he must stop and ask Congress for approval to continue. If this does end, I mean, Trump, he did it.
Starting point is 00:12:03 I will say this to everybody, because they were like, Tim, you were saying that it was going to escalate. I have no problem being wrong. I'm not going to sit here and be like, here's why Trump is actually going to screw up. No, no, I'm stoked. Holy crap, I'd love to be wrong. I was worried AF that this was going to escalate.
Starting point is 00:12:17 If Trump really did just pull it off, I apologize for doubting the man. I know that parents, mothers in particular, are thrilled that Iran will not have nuclear weapons. I apologize for doubting the man. I know that parents, mothers in particular, are thrilled that Iran will not have nuclear weapons. So moms, for the most part, I would say, probably don't understand Middle East policy and what's going on over there.
Starting point is 00:12:33 But they have concerns as parents, and one of those things is a nuclear Iran. I mean, that's a very big possibility. And so I didn't hear a lot of pushback from the mom community when we went in and took out those nuclear facilities. What concerns me, though, is this, the idea here, Lend-Lease, the Lend-Lease program, the Americans were giving the British weapons
Starting point is 00:12:53 before World War II, but they couldn't sell them because they would have been violating some shit. So they were like- Isn't the Lend-Lease with the Soviets? The Lend-Lease was a program between the Americans and the British where the Americans were giving the, they were giving it to a lot Of people but the British particular they're giving them weapons and then they were like you just pay us back later
Starting point is 00:13:09 So someone could give the Iranians a nuclear weapon and be like just pay us later Like they don't have to make it they can get one they can receive one also So we need to strengthen our diplomatic ties with the Chinese the Russians and the Indians right now Particularly because they don't want a nuclear Iran. Nobody wants it I don't think except for these movies if nobody wants wants a nuclear Iran, who's going to give them the nuclear bomb? I know some maybe because we won't always be in power. And if some crazy guy gets it after president of Russia, I think said he was going to help them. And that and that happens or that other countries in Russia, North Korea, of course, but he's also in good terms
Starting point is 00:13:40 with Trump. So I think that I look I I want, I was gonna say regime change. How can I say this smoothly? I don't like theocracy. I find theocracy even more dangerous than monarchy. I want regime change in Iran. I just don't wanna be involved in whatever that means. And I want it to be peaceful. I would love for it to be like, they set it down,
Starting point is 00:13:58 another organization picks it up if possible. I don't know if that's, I mean, I think that's what the Israelis are planning to do anyway, make it happen. It looks like that's what they're about to do. And they're just like, install some sort of receipt like go targeted strike assassinations on that would mean the war is not over. Where has there ever been a peaceful regime change except in a democratically elected in 79? I mean, an election in a somewhat Democrat country, but in a place like Iran.
Starting point is 00:14:26 2020 in this country. In Iran in 79, it was relatively peaceful. It only lasted about six months, the revolution, maybe four months on six months. But didn't the tyrant take over? I mean, isn't that what got us into this situation? But it wasn't really bloody. The king at the time didn't fight back.
Starting point is 00:14:41 And everyone was like, why aren't you stopping the rebellion? And he was just like sitting in his castle, not fighting it. And so they deposed him and it was general relatively peaceful as revolutions for his country that size. And it could happen again. And what I think you're saying is that, I mean, they can change, but I don't want to be involved in it. Like all the coups we've done around the, whether it's Guatemala or Iran again, you know, I don't want that to happen. They can do whatever they want.
Starting point is 00:15:04 The thing is the Shaw,, the Shah's son, who's in America right now, is the most likely candidate to be installed as the king of Iran, and we would definitely, because he's in America, we would somehow we'd be involved with putting them up in the tradition. The issue with regime change nowadays, compared to even 20 or 30 years ago,
Starting point is 00:15:20 is the internet and the speed of communications. So, a couple hundred years ago, you want a regime change, you literally need only stand in a building. You'd be standing in the building, sitting on the throne being like, we're in charge now. And if the king was in exile and people didn't listen. So you take a look at even a hundred years ago, how these revolutions took place. And it was just like, we've stormed the building and a thousand people surrounded it. And now the entire country of millions of people has a new form of government. These days, there's digital communications.
Starting point is 00:15:50 And you saw that in France in World War II, because the French, Paris was taken over. Three, 500 years ago, entire country of France would have served the Germans, but half of France split off because Charles de Gaulle went into exile in England and was able to kind of lead this resistance via telephone. And now we've got the internet.
Starting point is 00:16:06 Yeah. So if, say, a group of people were to storm the Capitol, during the counting of the electoral vote, and they stood in that building, literally nothing would happen. The president doesn't change. Nobody loses or gains control. Occupying the building and controlling the force there
Starting point is 00:16:23 changes nothing. That's why I always wondered about the term insurrection. It never really made sense to me on what happened that day. High stakes, king of the hill. That's all it was. That's why insurrection is the wrong term for what happened on January 6th. I would say insurrection in Portland,
Starting point is 00:16:39 as it is applied legally in that local laws are not being followed, that is a legal insurrection for which the president can invoke the Insurrection Act and call in the National Guard to go shut down those riots. Yeah, the police led the J-6ers in. There's all that video of them actually giving them a nice tour, unlike in Portland and other places
Starting point is 00:16:58 where they took over streets and set up camp. Some entrances had a different dynamic, right? Those people were Antifa in red hats. I want to say for the record, since there's 100 million people listening or whatever it is, I do want regime change in Iran in a peaceful manner in some sort. And I'm very happy with this announcement of a ceasefire. Although I said I don't believe anything coming out of their mouths, I'm very happy to hear it regardless.
Starting point is 00:17:22 I think it's a very good diplomatic move. I know that Putin at first was like, think we're gonna help Iran we might help them get a nuke at least as I was reading these reports and then later he's like actually we're just gonna help them. It wasn't Putin. It was Medvedev. Oh yeah it was Medvedev. And then they just kind of walked it back and they're like we're gonna we're gonna help diplomatically they just wanted to solve the problem they don't want to blow stuff up. I'm bringing it back to moms real quick like I don't really care all that much about the nukes. Honestly, I care more
Starting point is 00:17:48 about sending our children to war, you know, like that's the possibility of this when it's possibly escalating, it still could. And sending kids to war. Yeah, look, I have two sons 24 and 17. So they're both ideal candidates. Yeah, if there was some kind of draft, but I still personally, I can't speak for my, you know, all 130,000 moms for liberty members at the moment, but personally, I still support what happened. I, you know, that photo, it's not up right now, but the photo of President Trump walking out with Marco Rubio behind him. And you know what
Starting point is 00:18:20 I'm talking about was really, well, that's, that's part of it. But you see Pete, had Seth even behind that. You see all four or five of them standing there. I just kept going back to that photo and just looking at these men that I feel like we've gotten to know over the last few years. These are good men that I know of. I've met their spouses.
Starting point is 00:18:37 I feel like I have some familiarity with them. And to see the looks on their faces, and they knew what decisions they were making. They knew there was some risk, even if there was calculated and risk, and they felt like it was in the right direction. And I just am, you know, I'm thankful for them. I'm thankful that they are making the hard choices
Starting point is 00:18:52 and leading the way. Well, it is the suburban mom that won Trump the election. We can always point to a different demographic and say they're the ones, but we know is that Trump was trailing among suburban moms in 2020, and then they shifted rightwards in 2024. I think the gender issue played a large role in that. You're going to give me a second to talk about it. I'd be glad to talk about what we did.
Starting point is 00:19:14 And we did it for swing states, Georgia, Arizona, North Carolina, and Wisconsin. We focused in on about 200, 250,000 women that hadn't really voted in four years in those states. And we went and targeted them for six to seven months. Hyper local issues, you know, Mr. Jones in your local school down the streets wearing a dress in the fifth grade class, did you know, make sure you vote up and down the ballot against people that are supporting this.
Starting point is 00:19:39 Make sure you know that the Biden administration rewrote Title IX to allow this in that school. We sent them texts, we hand wrote postcards, thousands and thousands of handwritten postcards, knocking doors, all those things. Long story short, in those four states, we turned out an average of 93% of those women, about 200, 250,000 in each state. That's over 800,000 women that wouldn't have traditionally voted in an election turned out to vote. I think angry moms definitely helped win. I mean, you saw everything that happened
Starting point is 00:20:08 during lockdowns with kids. Oh, they were mad. School closures and all that. So mad. Where were you in the past few years? Were you always a Trump supporter? I have voted for Trump traditionally, but I'll admit in 2016, I walked into that voting booth
Starting point is 00:20:23 not going to vote for him. And just- You're gonna have to leave the show now, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Then come back. I didn't even vote that year. Oh, what do you got to say about me? I stood there and I was gonna go third party.
Starting point is 00:20:34 And this is like a little bit of a crazy story. The only other time I voted third party was the Bush-Gore election. And I sat up all night like, I'm the reason, I'm the reason this is happening because I didn't vote for Bush. I didn't, it's my fault. Like I all night like, I'm the reason, I'm the reason this is happening because I didn't vote for Bush, I didn't, it's my fault, like I personally felt like, you know, we went through the hanging chads because of me
Starting point is 00:20:51 and so I told myself that night, I would never do third party, I kept thinking about that and I wasn't gonna vote for Hillary Clinton and so I ended up voting for him, but it's been an interesting road, I wasn't always the loyalist that I am now. Do you find that, I don't find that moms view him as icky? Less and less.
Starting point is 00:21:09 Less and less. Less and less. Wow. Yeah. Because he's chilled out. Why do you think that is? Look, he campaigned on several things that had to do with moms for liberty issues. The overreach of government, they saw what the Biden administration did to parents that were just standing up trying to protect their children. He, he stood on
Starting point is 00:21:29 that issue. He stood on the issue of keeping boys out of women's sports. He understands what's going on in education and he has listened to us on those. And he came right out the gate as soon as he took office and executive order after executive order after, I mean, going in, look, we're, we are just women, we're strong independent women, but to see someone stand up for the issues that has the power to do something about it and to see him stand there and do that on our behalf to protect our children, he's got our support hands down, women are coming over left and right because of that.
Starting point is 00:22:00 Do you think Melania is a huge influence on that? Because I'm just starting to think maybe she's like really morally pushing, like helping him. Of course, of course behind every man there is a good woman. I wish she was more vocal in the world. I've thought that since the beginning. I mean, she's doing what she can. I think she's a little self-conscious because her English is her second language or not her first language. At least I think she might have said stuff like that. Her fourth. Her fourth language. Yeah, she speaks like five language
Starting point is 00:22:25 Yes, a genius woman. I'm sure she's self-conscious that she speaks five languages fluently She's amazing is what I'm trying to say and I agree Tim you were about to ask a question, too No, no, no. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Melania is a kind of an unsung hero over the last decade in a lot of ways She's very grounded. What what happened Democrats? in a lot of ways. She's very grounded. What happened Democrats? Did you consider yourself a Democrat? They lost their freaking mind.
Starting point is 00:22:47 No, I've never been a Democrat, but I will say a good portion of our organization are former Democrats. We even have some Democrats, which the left in the newspaper would never, or the news mainstream media would never tell you that. I think I was telling you the other day that we were in a,
Starting point is 00:23:02 I was in a meeting in Ohio with my chapter leaders from the state. Half of the room had voted for Obama. And so they're coming over because they don't like what's happening to their kids. What do they tell you? What do they tell you when they come in and they're like, oh, you know, I didn't,
Starting point is 00:23:14 cause you know they're apprehensive, you know there's a lot of stigma that goes along with it. What do they tell you when they come in? Well, the first one said it, I can't remember how the conversation started, but the first one said it when we were in a group setting and the other started poking fun at her. And then one said to the other, like, you can't laugh at me. You voted for Obama and then you voted for Obama. And before you knew it, I was like,
Starting point is 00:23:30 okay, raise your hands if you voted for Obama. And it was half the room. And, you know, a lot of them just said he, he seemed hopeful. You know, they didn't follow politics. They didn't vote in local elections, no idea who their local elected leaders are. But they looked at Obama as someone who was offering hope and change, just like he said. And so it was an easy cast for them. I mean, this is more of an anecdotal question, a question that I'm just getting your personal opinion. Do you think women are voting because like you said, they felt hope when they saw Obama. Do you think that the women are voting less with their emotions and more with their brain,
Starting point is 00:24:00 their thinking? Or is it that Trump is appealing more to their emotions? Trump is appealing to their emotions. He's standing up for their children. They're seeing what's happening in education in America. They know, and I will say on a good part of mom's celebrity, pushing the information out there that only a third of kids in America can read on grade level. I think that's starting to become public knowledge, a third. That's terrible for national security. That's terrible for the future of these children. We're screwed. Economically, it's terrible for national security. That's terrible for the future of these children. We're screwed.
Starting point is 00:24:25 Economically it's terrible, yeah. Not just that, but there's these viral posts where teachers are saying like, their kids can't read, their kids can't type, the kids are completely disinterested in whatever they're doing. All they wanna do is get on TikTok and just keep swiping. Like attention span has gone to zero
Starting point is 00:24:41 and they'll see two seconds of something and they're bored, bored, bored. And so when it comes to writing, they just use chat TPT, submit it, and then say, and shrug off. I wonder if that takes into account the homeschooling spike. Oh, of course.
Starting point is 00:24:55 At church recently, we celebrated all the kids who graduated high school, 30 kids, all of them homeschooled. No one went to public school. And these kids talk like better than me. They're smarter than me. and they had a great schooling. So I wonder if like we're watching the public schools totally fail, but the homeschooling is really taking off. Especially since COVID when the schools shut down and teachers union fought, you know,
Starting point is 00:25:14 I'm not going to open a school till you defund the police and all of their nonsense. I mean, parents had no choice but to start homeschooling or their kids were going to fall behind dramatically. Of course you see those numbers growing. And you think that, I think the public school system's still working off the antiquated 20th century model, pretending like AI doesn't exist. And then the kids go home and they use AI
Starting point is 00:25:33 to finish their homework. And the teachers are like, grr. That's frying their brains. But the moms of the kids are sitting there with them, like, what, did you use chap GPT again? Let me just tell you the scary thing about this, is that I recently got the switch To you know the Nintendo switch to yeah, and you can get Nintendo and GameCube
Starting point is 00:25:51 And as I say so what we I went on online and I downloaded the app so you can play their library of Nintendo games They don't have that many but there's a lot and I was playing the game crystalis. Love that game, dude Absolutely So good. Now let me tell you why this matters. Because I used chat GPT, because I'm like stuck in the beginning. What do I do?
Starting point is 00:26:12 So I typed in chat GPT, how do I, you know, do this thing? Teleport. Total example, what do I do with the Carissa plant? It fabricated this huge walkthrough for the game that included characters that didn walkthrough for the game that included characters that didn't exist in the game. And I knew, I played the game 800 times when I was a kid and I was playing it again,
Starting point is 00:26:33 but I can't remember what to do with this thing. And I'm like, this is completely fabricated and made up, completely. And it's only because I knew certain, it was like go south of this one town. I'm like, there's no south of that town. So these kids are gonna be in school and they're gonna be like, write me, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:52 an essay on Christopher Columbus discovering America and it's gonna put fake names in. Or there was that, as a total aside, that lawyer, I think this happened more than once, who had Jet GPT draft his whole legal argument and it created fake case citation precedent. So a few things there. One, the Christopher Columbus thing,
Starting point is 00:27:10 you just touched on it as a passing story, but worse, it could even say what's actually in the textbooks right now, which say Christopher Columbus is a war criminal and worse. And so I bet you a chat GPT is gonna pull up all the anti-American rhetoric and feed it in just as the textbooks are now. And number two, it's not just the kids with this AI.
Starting point is 00:27:28 So my 17-year-old, they have a policy in my school district, the kids can't use AI for papers. And at least my son says he doesn't use AI because he thinks the teachers put it in the AI checker and he'll get caught. I'm not saying he doesn't ever do it, but he says he doesn't. But he got really upset last year because his paper was graded with AI.
Starting point is 00:27:45 And he came home so mad and he said, why can't I can't use AI to write it? Why does she get to use AI to grade it? And I was like, well, how do you really know? He said, Mom, look at this. There's no feedback on my writing. It's literally these captioned things from AI. I can tell. And then I threw it in the AI checker and it told me it was AI. And then what if the AI is wrong?
Starting point is 00:28:04 Yeah, it's teaching him wrong. And the teacher has no idea if he's writing or if he's not, what he needs to help with or anything. It's so messed up. And you know where it gets worse? When these kids use AI to write an essay and then post the essay somewhere online in some way the AI can use it,
Starting point is 00:28:22 the AI writing gets re-ingested into its own training model. It's like those pictures, they're like, reprint this picture a thousand times. You ever see it and then they slowly morph into this demon picture. I love it. Oh, jeez. Same thing with your paper.
Starting point is 00:28:35 I was gonna ask, oh, what's the AI checker that you mentioned? I have no idea. I can ask my 17 year old and let you know. Yeah, that's it. Sounds like a good piece of technology for the coming days. I think we're totally screwed. I don't think I can trust the AI checker.
Starting point is 00:28:47 I think. And it'll protect itself. I was talking to this guy, pro skateboarder. You'd think he wouldn't be apprised to a lot of stuff, but he asked me if I'd ever read about the fourth turning. And I was like, oh boy, how much time do you got? And so we talked a bit about it. And this is just a guy who skates.
Starting point is 00:29:04 He's not a big political guy or anything like that. People are starting to learn. Are you familiar with the fourth turning? I am not. Strauss had generational theories that every four generations you have some kind of crisis period. And there's a bunch of ways you can break it down.
Starting point is 00:29:17 I'll overly simplify it. So 80 years ago, we had the world wars. 80 years before that, civil war. 80 years before that, the revolution. There was conflict 80 years before that, it keeps going. The general idea is that after the World War, the people who fought and survived are just brutalized. And so they're carved out of stone.
Starting point is 00:29:34 They're not bothered, they don't care for things like wokeness, and they're just like, sit down, shut up and do the work. You know, having a job is not the worst thing you've ever done with. So they raised kids. We're 80 years after World War II, aren't we? That's right.
Starting point is 00:29:46 God. So they raise kids off the lessons of World War II. And those kids, you know, they start working and they have a general idea. Then they have kids. And those kids, yeah, they heard stories in their grandparents, but they don't really know. And then finally, the fourth generation
Starting point is 00:30:02 is a bunch of lazy, entitled wackaloons that are soft as cookie dough causing instability in politics which results in some kind of chaotic moment Well, you know one of the things that has kept me sane is listening to my father talk about the horrors of Vietnam growing up He would cost because he served in the Navy during Vietnam on a peacekeeping tour, you know in Germany, but Just to tend to watch just to see the horror, to know, because when you get generations detached from it, it's very easy to treat like a video game. And that's where we are now where kids need safe. I mean, we're talking about in the past 10 years,
Starting point is 00:30:38 colleges, universities creating safe spaces for lectures, where if someone was triggered by something a professor was saying, they could go into a fluffy room with stuffed animals and pastel colors playing nursery rhymes. I'm not exaggerating. There's this guy, Alex Hamel. You guys know this guy? He bare climbs with his bare fingers. Honnold? Alex Honnold. He's done Joe Rogan's show. He climbs mountains with his bare fingers, like hangs. Free climbing. Yeah, yeah. And he's like the best free- Does he do the skyscrapers? No, no, he's like the best free climber on earth, not that I know of.
Starting point is 00:31:07 And he said everyone should, when was the last time you've been really afraid? Like really afraid, really afraid for your life. Because people should feel like that. Otherwise they're gonna start to be afraid of stupid shit. Yep. That's what kind of aligns with what you're saying. That's where we're currently at.
Starting point is 00:31:20 And it's not so much about being afraid of dumb things. It's about entitlement. That, you know, what a lot of these young people were experiencing is the worst thing. Actually, I'll put it this way. My baby was crying today and we're trying to console her. And she had a burp. It's literally the worst thing she has ever experienced
Starting point is 00:31:38 in her life. She's four months. And so her distress is legitimate, but needs to be tempered. I mean, if you've never felt pain before, you're like, what's happening? So what happens to these millennials largely is they've had zero hardship, snowplow parents. They've never, you get a trophy no matter what, even if you don't win. No one's a bully. Everyone's got to hold hands and sing and then you enter the real world and you walk down the street and someone screams at you dumbass and you go.
Starting point is 00:32:06 And it's like literally the emotional pain of being insulted is the worst thing you've ever experienced. It makes me think that we should treat these people like you're four month old going through a burp. Like it is that painful for them. At the very least we should. We're nice to them. We shouldn't bend the knee to every demand they make.
Starting point is 00:32:21 And I don't mean treat them like a baby. I mean have the compassion for the human as if it really is genuine pain, even though to us or to you it might seem ridiculous. No. The point is to understand, the baby was screaming like the apocalypse was happening and then she went, and that was it.
Starting point is 00:32:36 And then she smiled. And it's like that's, so I understand for the baby who can't burp, there's, this is not just a trivial problem, but for a 40 year old, for a millennial working in government who is can't burp, this is not just a trivial problem. But for a 40 year old, for a millennial working in government who is crying over burping, we've got a problem. The bigger problem is,
Starting point is 00:32:52 I mean, that's an absolute problem and I agree with you, but what's happening in schools right now in the youngest grades all the way through high school is they're infusing social emotional learning. I'm not sure how familiar you are with it. You're basically having security and safety circles where you sit around and talk about your feelings at the youngest age and make sure everybody's comfortable
Starting point is 00:33:10 and you spend more time on that than learning how to read. And so we're actually developing children to be this way, even as adults. We will come back to this, but I do want to get back to the war because we do have some news here. This is from, I believe this is from the Telegraph. Fears over Iran's missing 400 kilograms of uranium. And that's if we just believe the reports.
Starting point is 00:33:32 But we have this satellite image from Fordow showing what appears to be, I think, 16 trucks. I could be wrong, there may be another one I missed. Now the reports are that two days before the strikes, they were able to get all of the FISL material out of these facilities and then spread them out to who knows where. JD Vance has asked about this and he says, we're not so concerned about their 60% enriched uranium.
Starting point is 00:33:56 We were concerned if they were going to continue enriching upwards of 90% and we have taken away their ability to do that. That being said, there are many people who are deeply concerned this is not over. Iran may agree to a ceasefire, but what happens if they start dispatching even 60% uranium to various rep, like the Houthis or other terrorist insurgent groups in the region, and then we see some random armed insurgent group making threats and making demands, but armed now with a dirty bomb? Well, I mean, I imagine this is something that the administration has on their radar. And I feel like it's the same result.
Starting point is 00:34:34 Like if you give, if Iran were to give nuclear material to someone like the Houthis or whatever, like the US is gonna find, is gonna know where it came from There's not a whole lot of places where this I disagree come from you don't think so. Why not? 17 let's say 16 trucks We don't know which one was loaded with what those 16 trucks drive off in different directions and go into a big facility Where 16 more trucks drive out? Those 16 trucks then drive across various borders into various countries
Starting point is 00:35:05 through Pakistan, through India, into Russia, into China. And now whatever was there is mixed around with whatever was in the other regions before. It just adds to the mix and we're not going to know where it came from, who it was. I mean, I'm sure they'll claim this has all the signatures of Iranians. Using that kind of stuff still is such high risk. Like what's the benefit? Because you're not gonna, you're gonna terrorize people, right? But like that's, what policy are they trying
Starting point is 00:35:35 to get the US to change? Why did the Houthis start bombing tanker vessels in the Red Sea? Because of the war in Gaza, right? And so if an ideologically driven group is screaming a genocide is occurring and they go from having short-range missiles and RPGs to dirty bombs and enriched uranium, then it's not going to be a short-range missile strike on a tanker. I can't imagine them actually using dirty bombs in Israel just because like the goal is like they want...
Starting point is 00:36:03 In the Red Sea. In the Red Sea. In the Red Sea, so just out of tankers and stuff like that? I mean, if they dropped only a couple dirty bombs, like we're talking small, low amounts of uranium, but enough to irradiate the passage, you can shut down a chunk of global trade. And what happens if they come out and say, we are here by, we have strategically placed
Starting point is 00:36:29 dirty bombs around the area and we are demanding that Israel surrender and leave immediately, otherwise we will detonate them and shut down the Red Sea. Then what do you do? Sure, you can start striking where you believe they are, but we're talking like weird Mission Impossible-esque missions to locate and you shut down dirty bombs. Are you guys, do you know what the types, like what are dirty bomb status right now? I haven't researched it at all. Dirty bomb is a general term for a, or they can call them suitcase nukes. Basically, it's
Starting point is 00:37:02 a hodgepodge of nuclear fissile material in a bomb of varying yield. They're small, but when they go off, they can irradiate small portion, like areas of cities or city blocks. So it's like a conventional bomb that spreads out the nuclear waste, basically? It could be, it could be. It could be a low-yield nuclear bomb,
Starting point is 00:37:20 but likely with enriched uranium, conventional bomb that's gonna irradiate. And then what happens if that blows up in an urban area, you could be dealing with decontamination efforts for years. That's the fear of, this is what I don't like about, when they come out and they say, a nuclear armed Iran cannot happen because Iran will nuke this country,
Starting point is 00:37:40 that country, it's like, no, they won't. They're going to use it as leverage. And they're going to say, we can play ball. The bigger fear is when they start passing it off to Hamas. And then Hamas detonates a dirty bomb at the Rafa crossing or something. I see where their fear is of the bomb, because it's like North Korea.
Starting point is 00:37:59 Hey man, whatever you think, they got a big bomb. They got multiple bombs. I don't know how they got them either, from the Soviets maybe, but that country, you can't really tangle with that country militarily because they'll just launch, I would imagine. They're just like... North Korea? Yeah. Yeah, but they have nukes, but they're just like real dumb. The nukes themselves? Like their weaponry is particularly ineffective. It's there, it exists, there's concerns. The bigger problem with North Korea is how is the proximity of South Korea, of Seoul, South Korea to North Korea. They can wipe out Seoul with artillery. Like you don't need
Starting point is 00:38:34 nuclear weapons. Like they just have enough just conventional artillery to like kill like 30% of the people that live in Seoul. As an aside, I do need to point out, I think it was Tate who said this, North Korea with all of its problems has a fertility rate of three and South Korea is 0.6. So they split the country in half, gave one struggle and torture, and they've, the population's small,
Starting point is 00:38:57 but they're growing, they're trying. And South Korea was given liberalism and they're destroying themselves. I bet they're lying about that number though. North Koreans, I bet they're lying about that number. I'd be shocked. You're saying they have three kids per family is what? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:10 Are they allowed D as birth control in North Korea? Pretty sure they're not or they don't have access to it. Cause I mean, Young Mi Park, was that her name? She's been on the show before. She was a North Korean defector and came on and was like, people starve on the side of the road. Oh yeah. You'll see them laying in time.
Starting point is 00:39:24 They're smaller starving, but there's more of them. To then say that they're having three kids per family when they're small and starving makes- Do you think they would lie to us about it? Just because they're- They said they had a unicorn in a cave. They're having three kids. Yeah, but maybe-
Starting point is 00:39:34 That doesn't mean three kids are becoming adults and making kids themselves. You know what I mean? People die a lot in North Korea, so they- Well, I didn't want to derail the conversation. I thought it was funny what Tate said, but tell me I'm wrong. I'd love to be wrong with the spreading of this,
Starting point is 00:39:51 you know, near 900 pounds of enriched uranium now disappearing. There's concerns that Iran is just saying, oh yeah, ceasefire, the war is over. You got a boss, load it up. Oh, for sure. That's what I would do if I was in charge. I'd be like, I don't trust anything coming out of these guys.
Starting point is 00:40:05 They just sneak attacked our facilities. Let's prepare. They overthrew our country in 53. I'd be crazy. I'd be crazy. I don't know about you guys. Why? How?
Starting point is 00:40:15 Would you guys be crazy? In what way? Dude, if someone claimed they had it. So I understand with law and war, there's totally different things, but let's just say I'm on a frontier, minding my own business, on my property, I got walls, and a dude rides up with his posse,
Starting point is 00:40:32 and they all got guns, and they said, we are going to come here with artillery, and we are going to level your building, because we don't like that you're growing that crap, or whatever, and I'm like, bro, get out of here, who are you? Sounds like the South. If they then came and started bombing my property,
Starting point is 00:40:46 I would be like, the only thing you will get is blood and dirt from coming to my land. So I'm saying my fear in this is that Iran is going to be, I wouldn't call it irrational, I would call it ideological. The idea of being a rational actor is, if we bomb Iran and they think they'll die, will they back off? Sure, but you can rationally say we will send, like you will pay. Donald Trump you can't play chicken with. Iran, do you want to play chicken with Donald
Starting point is 00:41:15 Trump? You will lose. Trump's going to be like, I'll press the button. And if it was just the Ayatollah, he might sacrifice himself and come and take it, but he's got 90 million people he's taking care of so I don't think he would I don't think he would throw 90 million people away in some you think he would some grand sacrifice I mean dude it's a theocracy to get all of Islam to attack the rest of the world yes 72 virgins await you in heaven to war and he's like 80 or something this belief system but why wouldn't he do that? That's what I was- They think it's good to die for the cause. And they may be saying like the great evil is taking over and they are destroying us. We will not lay down. I mean they previously said Iran will never surrender.
Starting point is 00:41:55 Now they're saying this is a ceasefire. So my fear in all this is that that uranium ain't going anywhere and they're going to continue working. I worry about sleeper cells or people pretending to be sleeper cells. You know? People were talking about, like, if we do something in Iran, then they will activate sleeper cells without acknowledging the fact that having sleeper cells in the United States at all is unacceptable.
Starting point is 00:42:20 Like, just the fact that Iran would send sleeper cells is, in and of itself itself an act of war. I mean, a lot of them have done it before. There's been sleeper cells here for decades. Yeah, I mean- From like Russia and other places. I mean, I imagine that's true, but it's the idea that you don't want to do anything
Starting point is 00:42:38 to Iran because they've sent sleeper cells. Well, that's already calling for retaliation. Yeah. you know, like why are we allowing them to stay? Yeah, like, you know, it's the same thing. We know where they are I mean, you know our leaders were on the news saying they're in all 50 states now. Okay. Well, you know, then you must know where they are Why are they still here? Yeah so That's why we need to deport everybody Everybody all of them. All 20 million.
Starting point is 00:43:07 It's like a transfusion. If you take too much too quick, it kills the body. So you got to go. I like this idea of taking the violent criminals first, but then they're going up on Joe Rogan was like, this is getting crazy, dude. They're driving up at Home Depot's and tackling dudes. No, they all got to go in. You can't care. You honestly can't care about optics anymore right now with the way the country has been invaded. No, they all gotta go in. You honestly can't care about optics anymore right now with the way the country's been invaded. Oh, I don't agree because I think that the Russian
Starting point is 00:43:31 and the Chinese, if we don't have them on our side, if they think that we're truly ballistic and we're gonna just start sneak attacking. Are they ever on our side? Wait, wait, wait, we're talking about immigration. Now you're, how does, what are you talking about with the Russian and Chinese? If they see us like go authoritarian crack down hard and sneak attack
Starting point is 00:43:48 With with bunker busters other countries. They might be like alright. It's it's it's too far gone now We can't at least now they we can be negotiated with because it's the United States of America We stand for liberty and has that fit into the mass deportations if you start just grabbing segments of your population Maybe they're a citizen, maybe they're not, we'll find out later. Putin might like it, he'd be like, respect. I just saw a video of a dude, a Russian dude that had a flag with Putin on it.
Starting point is 00:44:14 He pulled it down, crumpled it up, threw it away, and then the next day he just got picked up. They grabbed him and black bagged him just because he threw a picture of Putin away. Like, we are far from that, my dude. We are far from that. People that are getting picked up now are actually criminal, illegal aliens. And you know, maybe some of them haven't committed a violent crime and they're getting picked up for just for being illegal, but they're still here illegally.
Starting point is 00:44:41 Those borders are so wide open. Ian, you got a lot of ones. Yeah, I know. That was an extreme thing of me to say, to kind of try to pull back on the deportation thing on this show, I know. A lot of people are very, very pro-deportation. He comes to deportation, no break, all gas.
Starting point is 00:44:56 Well, we'll deport Ian. Ian? To where? Doesn't matter. We'll make it a show. Trump won. I want to go to Paris. That sounds like too much fun.
Starting point is 00:45:06 So we actually have this story. From the Washington Post Supreme Court now allows Trump to deport migrants to third countries. The case that it on President Trump's attempt to deport migrants to countries where they're not citizens, including conflict ridden South Sudan. Some dude comes here from Guatemala and it's like, off you go to South Sudan. I
Starting point is 00:45:27 mean that's going to that's a deterrent. I'll say that. Of course that's the headline from the Washington Post. Yeah. The most the craziest place that they can deport to. The Supreme Court on Monday cleared the way for Trump, the Trump administration to deport immigrants to countries where they are not citizens, temporarily blocking a decision by a lower court judge said migrants must have a meaningful opportunity to contest their removal. The court's order, which drew a sharp dissent from three liberal justices, was a response to an emergency request by the admin and will remain in place while legal challenges to such removals make their way through the lower courts. As part of Trump's mass deportation efforts, the admin has attempted to send groups of migrants,
Starting point is 00:46:01 some convicted of crimes in the US, to countries other than their own, including to conflict ridden South Sudan. I can't believe that. That's ridiculous. Four individuals initially filed a lawsuit in Boston on behalf of all immigrants, potentially subject to third country removals, saying they are entitled to notice and an opportunity to raise fear based claims before deportation. To be honest, if you're from like, I don't know, Columbia or Honduras and Trump's like, we're gonna send you to Sudan, I think you have grounds to be like, I have fear of death if you send me there. All places.
Starting point is 00:46:35 How does Sudan feel about this? Have they been consulted at all? The reason they're going to places like Sudan is, or ostensibly, it's because their nation of origin won't take them back, right? Yes, but Sudan seems like a weird choice. Like El Salvador I get. Trump just like that sounds good. To be fair, like these people going to South Sudan,
Starting point is 00:46:53 where are they from though? They may be from some neighboring country or something. Or maybe there's no rhyme or reason at all. It's just get them out of here. We don't care where they go. Yeah, it just doesn't even matter. They just need to go. One of the potential deportees is being held in a makeshift detention at the US Naval
Starting point is 00:47:07 Basin, Djibouti. Is that how you pronounce it? Yeah, it is. Djibouti. Under health hazards and threat of rocket attacks after the judge set a planned deportation flight to South Sudan violated his order. I got to admit, it's kind of funny.
Starting point is 00:47:19 It's hilarious. It is funny. I have concerns about it. But at the same time, don't illegally violate our laws and break into our country. If you come here illegally, I'm not sure what degree of simpities I'm supposed to have if we just tell you to go away. I like that we went from sending them to Martha's Vineyard to sending them to South Sudan. Look, DeSantis is the nicer side over here. Is that what that is?
Starting point is 00:47:39 Sending them to Martha's Vineyard was the pilot program. And then the... They lucked out. Yeah, they did. They did. Until now. You know, you want to lead with your best foot, you know. Did you guys see what the group in Colorado did with the protecting the child rapist? Yeah. Oh yeah. Colorado has lost its mind and I could go into a million things about education that they're doing that are insane and attacking the like the worst cases of parental rights at their state
Starting point is 00:48:01 legislature right now and dividing families. But this just takes the cake. They've got this group there that actually notified the child rapist. Illegal immigrant that ICE was on its way and let him get away. It is that's like they're high from oxygen deprivation. It's infuriating. It's crazy because they're super. OK, well, I pulled up South Sudan and their biggest city of Juba. Just pretty big. It's pretty big There's a lot going on here. Looks at the roads are largely made of dirt Large lot largely dirt make it our Australia houses are all they appear to be shanty houses I don't think they have okay. No, there you go regular regular houses
Starting point is 00:48:41 I'm just curious about the standard of living in in juba. They got a university So made this opportunity for some of these people here. Yeah, you're selling it. Is it better than prison in the U S or worse? That's the question. Yeah, I prefer exile anyway. So I think, I think they're better off. They got an international airport.
Starting point is 00:48:58 Just out. Just out. Yeah. You were saying, Tim, I think you said that I think it's okay that we just grab the illegals and get them out of here. I think you just said that you were pretty, Tim, I think you said that I think it's okay that we just grab the illegals and get them out of here. I think you just said that you're pretty sure that it is. I think it depends on the validity of the law they're breaking. And this law about immigration seems like a pretty legit law.
Starting point is 00:49:14 So in that instance, if you hear illegally breaking the law, a legit law too, it's not like some crazy law where like black people can't come to this country or stupid shit. So I think you say that. So let me just let me just, I don't know which individuals were actually sent to South Sudan. It may actually be the people who were sent there are from a neighboring country or something. And that he's doing it because he's like,
Starting point is 00:49:35 well, go back to where you're from. However, under the assumption that potentially it could be someone from Guatemala that gets sent to South Sudan, I'd just like to point out that the per capita GDP of Guatemala is $6,682. 108th in the world. Yikes. What do y'all think is the per capita GDP of South Sudan? Any guesses? God. Let's go. Come on. Three grand.
Starting point is 00:49:58 What do you say? $1,200. What say you? $956. All right. Is it real? Bob Barker, I'm going to say $1. $1. Closest without going over is Shane. Oh, there we go. $326. Of adults, it's all 18 over. GDP per capita is $326. That's per year. I think that's like the bottom. 194th. Is that the lowest in the world? It is. Aren't we paying people to leave too so they can become kings?
Starting point is 00:50:27 Yo, for real, it's the lowest? How unfair though? I'm going to be the, maybe the bleeding part. Mom. How unfair to their country to send them like the worst of the worst that have come into our country. We're going to ship them off to a place that can't even probably afford law enforcement. No, no, no, no. Listen, listen, if you're from like Guatemala and you're a farm worker or someone and you're making six, $7,000 a year, you are going to South Sudan as like a major expert.
Starting point is 00:50:56 Like they might be actually able to help South Sudan. They'll be white collar. Yeah. They're going to, they're going to go there with the grease of positive season. You're trying to make me feel better about it. Yo, this is wild. South Sudan is the lowest per capita GDP under Afghanistan.
Starting point is 00:51:10 Yemen, Burundi, and who do you think number one is? Haiti. The number one GDP? Monaco. Monaco. Yeah. Number one GDP is Monaco? Lowest.
Starting point is 00:51:21 Yeah. I thought Haiti was the best though. Actually, it looks like they don't have numbers for Monaco and Liechtenstein, but Luxembourg. That's the number one GDP. Yeah. There's this one Western African country that has a massive GDP. Ireland is number two. Ghana? Really? Yeah. It was like a trade country. We just- US is seven. Where's the US? It might be Ghana. Yeah. Where's China? Yeah, where's China? China that's fine. Chad
Starting point is 00:51:51 Uh, oh man, it's down there. Oh really? Oh, yeah. They got a lot of people I pass it There's where's what? Taiwan. Oh, okay. They're like we have one point four billion because they tell us they've got over a billion people which could oh wow China's 70 Wow that's surprising. Yeah, it is because they I think they're lying about their population numbers. What they really got 600000 people. Now you're going to see their GDP at like number seven or six. You know, yeah. Macau tied at number seven. I don't know why they're doing that, though. Is like it says seven United States and Macau, but they clearly have different numbers. I don't know why they do that. No idea. Yeah. Number one, it says Monaco, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg. That's the highest GDP per capita. Yeah. A lot of money. Loudoun County is the highest median
Starting point is 00:52:37 income in the country, which is just across the street. Radical liberals. But actually, they're not. Those moms helped win that governor election., but but the work I mean, you know the field I'm in they're terrible but this is why Loudon was like the the Like the major around. Yeah. Yeah, because it's actually pretty middle-of-the-road So you've got moderate liberal types Disaffected, you know disaffected former liberals and some conservatives, and then you find out what's going on in your schools, people freak out. Crazy. If it was far left, nobody would care.
Starting point is 00:53:11 Like look at LA. We don't have protests in LA over this stuff. They celebrate it. So the fact that Loudon was fairly moderate and they had this far left stuff, it caused the uproar. So then people push back. But I think we need to answer this question. Do you guys, how concerned are you with Trump sending illegal immigrants to any random country? I don't care where they go. You don't care? You just get them out.
Starting point is 00:53:36 Get them out. I don't care. Ian cares. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:53:42 I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I the countries won't take them. Right. They shouldn't have come here then. Yeah. I mean- I'm talking about the country that they're sending them to. I feel bad for that country. I feel bad for our country.
Starting point is 00:53:51 Oh, illegal immigrants. Get them out. You know, it's like when, was it Britain sent all the criminals to Australia and the US, but Australia, I guess we did okay. We got crocodile dundee out of it. Get them out of here. Get them out of here.
Starting point is 00:54:04 I think I'm only concerned with contingencies of what could possibly happen man Because if you sent a lot of people to a country that had a hostile attitude towards you They might use those people to do something to us. They all hate us. They all hate everybody Hey, check it out. I I was looking at South Sudan here pull this up And I was trying to find like I like to look at cities and try to figure out where's their wealthy area. And you know, I noticed trees. There's only some areas that have nice trees. So I zoomed in on this nice little cluster
Starting point is 00:54:33 of areas with trees and guess what I found? Yeah. USAID. Oh wow. Are you kidding me? Oh nice, good spot. So obviously when you see all the trees and there's grass and it's well maintained, there's, relative to everybody
Starting point is 00:54:46 else, you got some wealth there and it turns out USAID operating right there. Why not no more? Can we pull up Zillow? Yeah, Zillow for South Sudan. I mean, there's grass. This is the most fun I've had in days. There's grass, you know?
Starting point is 00:54:59 I'm like, someone's got money. The nicest building in all of Sudan is the USAID building. Well it's because, it's like who's got access to the trees, you know what I mean? You live in a nice area where there's grass, paved roads and trees and I'm like that's the wealthy area. You can afford irrigation. Yep. They have sprinklers. That's wild dude. Cost an arm and a leg over there. The curves would be like the indicator of like affluent lifestyle in urban areas. You got curbs, you know you've got things like you know indoor plumbing and you're doing okay. Wow. I kind of, did you say he, Trump is floating the idea to do this?
Starting point is 00:55:37 Apparently people are scheduled to go to South Sudan. The question is, are they going to the capital or might he send them to like Nagero? Yeah, rural. Yeah. Going to rural South Sudan. How far does this go? I mean, he sends them on a plane. They land at the major airport.
Starting point is 00:55:52 They take a parachute. And then they have to jump out of the plane. No, I mean, I'm assuming they go to the airport and then what? They just open the plane and I mean, do they put them on a bus? Are we finding them home? They must be coordinated. They're no longer our problem. Once you get them to the airport and off the plane. and I mean, do they put them on a bus? Are we finding them in their homes? They're no longer our problem.
Starting point is 00:56:08 Once you get them to the airport and off the plane. Didn't Giuliani do that? He like put all the homeless people on buses. Up to me, in my neck of the woods. Yeah, Newburgh, New York. He put them all on buses. Newburgh became one of the worst cities in the country. You know, that's like horrible, but kind of funny at the same time.
Starting point is 00:56:21 Yeah, yeah, it was a fun place to be as a teenager. The current governor's not doing, I mean she's a raging liberal Democrat. Ocal? Oh. Yeah, she's, I mean she's kind of doing the same thing. I have an aunt that lives in outside of Utica and was in like a retirement community and they actually took three of their five buildings for homeless people from the city that they brought up there and paid for them and she just said it became drug-infested and so. They took away hotels that I have family members that were working at like in bars and restaurants and gave those to illegals with the debit card money you know. Entire hotels just given. You know you brought up the British sending all those illegal all those criminals to Australia that happened that's real
Starting point is 00:56:58 and like we're kind of in a situation right now where we're about are we going to do that now but they didn't have social media. They're not our criminals. They're just criminals, yeah, they're just criminals. They're not even our citizen criminals. They're just- I mean, that is kind of funny. Like I have to imagine South Sudan saying yes. I mean, I'll put it this way. You're South Sudan, right?
Starting point is 00:57:15 Your average per capita GDP is 300 bucks. You're the lowest in the world. And Trump says, I can send you some guys from a country where they're on average making seven grand. That are potentially child rapists, that are potentially murderers average making seven grand. That are potentially child rapists. That are potentially murderers. Many of them. That are potentially, that are drug dealers.
Starting point is 00:57:28 Maybe a step up for South Sudan. No. Jesus. No, this. Maybe they go right to jail in South Sudan if they're one of those people. I'm gonna get a letter from the South Sudanese government being like that was inappropriate.
Starting point is 00:57:38 They're going to war with Tim Pool. South Sudan versus Tim Pool. I do not say that. I actually do feel bad about that. The people of South Sudan are not bad people. I need to rag on an entire nation of people who are just living their lives because they're poor. We have to make a judgment call without having them here on the show.
Starting point is 00:57:52 We should invite a South Sudanese person on the show. We should have never been in our country to start with. And so now it's our problem. I imagine our government is going to coordinate with South Sudan. Yeah, that's what I'm looking that up right now. And if there's people who are evil, like you're mentioning mentioning they go away, you know, like the El Salvador prison is Sudan like a Away, what do you mean? This is a kid-friendly show. I don't want to say what I okay truly want to say They're 30 60 percent Christian. I don't know if it matters how much 30 much 60 percent Christian
Starting point is 00:58:22 That's what's up more than the United States these days Are they like a puppet state of the US? No. Sudan? Yeah. That's Haiti. It's 60% crit- not that it matters. Okay, where are we now, Tim?
Starting point is 00:58:33 Is this GTA or is this Sudan? I am Malakal. This is South Sudan, apparently. I was occupied by- They got no street view. I'm trying to find- We were just inside somebody's house, I think. It looked like an establishment.
Starting point is 00:58:46 I'm trying to find. Street viewpoints, but it's kind of there's none. I think the airport might have some. Here we go. We'll click that button. Let's go to South Sudan. OK. Well, there you go. Oh, look, they have fire extinguishers. All right. I don't I don't think this is South Sudan
Starting point is 00:59:09 It's just like a glory Regency Hotel. I don't know. Maybe it is They were at a civil well in the room. You can go in the room. I wonder why that was I don't think there's a glory Regency Hotel right there. I think that's just a misplaced Misplaced street view a misplaced misplaced street view okay let's click that one yeah I don't think it's kind of wild there's nothing so it's here the hey here you go are under 18 years old in this country oh man this looks like South Sudan oh yeah dirt roads everything's a dirt road that's the wild like I said man curbs tell the story yeah that's crazy your town has curbs. And look at this. Nessico. They got stuff going on down there. Are they getting paid? I bet they got great parties.
Starting point is 00:59:51 Do they get paid per immigrant? What do you want to call? How do you want to call these people? Are they getting paid? Are we like bribing them? Actually, actually, in all seriousness, what if Trump is saying we're going to, the reason South Sudan's an option is he says, you hold these guys and we'll pay you a thousand bucks a year. And they're like, ooh. I mean, I don't know how the deal is structured or whatever, but if they're not here, it's
Starting point is 01:00:15 worth the money. I think that's actually a great idea. And then if they disappear, they just get the money. And if they don't disappear, they sit in a jail cell and it costs them $300 a year to cover them, and the country makes a profit. So. That's what they're doing in El Salvador, basically. It's a lot cheaper to put them in prison in Sudan
Starting point is 01:00:33 than it would be in the United States. So I, you know, OK, I'm coming around. I'm coming around. Send them back. Mom's for Liberty is talking about the Sudan chapter. The reason, the biggest reason to send them back isn't just about sending them back and getting these people out.
Starting point is 01:00:48 It's trying to disincentivize other people that are here from staying here. Personally, I want to see pressure on anyone that would hire illegals. If you knowingly hire illegal immigrants, you should lose your property. You should lose your business. It should be really extreme, because this is a massive problem for the United States, specifically when it comes to the way that the census is gonna go and congressional districts
Starting point is 01:01:15 and voting. So anything that we can do to get people to leave is good, in my opinion. Gotta go. Gotta go. Gotta go. To South Sudan. When you're embedded in the communities with those people as your friends, it is so, that'd be so hard for, I'm just thinking about some of the people I worked with. I mean, I wouldn't be so hard, but I've worked at restaurants in Los Angeles
Starting point is 01:01:35 and like, Deuteronica, and wherever. You gotta divorce yourself from that compassion of yours to save the country. You just get rid of anyone who broke the law to get here. You just walk in one day and they're just all gone. It'll feel like the Soviet Union, but you know it's not. It's like in a rapture. Like if they sign up right now,
Starting point is 01:01:52 I think I heard on the news this morning, if they register with the government right now and go back, there's a path for them to enter legally. Oh, 100%. So your friends, your fellow friends at your restaurant, I mean, they, you know, they need to go home and do it right. And I think there's nothing wrong with that. Nope.
Starting point is 01:02:11 And most of America agrees. Like, I mean, Trump is still even after having like, you know, the news covering fights over immigration stuff. The American people didn't like, didn't change their opinion about deport deportations. There are a few places where it got heated. And there was some protests because well, you know, it's protest season and they got nothing else to do. But for the most part, the American people are still on board. It's still two thirds of Americans want to see actual deportations. It's not just
Starting point is 01:02:43 want to fix the border. It's fix the border and deport. Why is it so different from 2017 and 2018 when I mean the media was just, you know, there was no support for any deportations or the wall if you recall. All of the news was about cages, kids in cages separating families and it was dominating in the mainstream media and everywhere and some of it was dominating in the mainstream media and everywhere and and some of it was yeah I mean they were down there filming crying all the things we're not seeing you know what's happening but we're not seeing it in the mainstream news now. The world is the world was a totally different place before 2020. 2020 and COVID and the
Starting point is 01:03:21 summer of love changed America in ways that I don't think we are ready. We have, we can even, we can even see yet. And they, they also changed their tune, the media on deportations, because they chose to not report on it really for Obama, who was the deporter in chief. And then when Trump came down, he was like the bad guy who didn't even build the cages. Those are the last guy's cages. right? So they just chose not to make it a thing. But they really hung it around him. I remember most of America did not support it at all. But now they are.
Starting point is 01:03:51 They had to attach him to being racist because of the whole Mexican thing and all that stuff. So it was their way of conflating those and turning him to an evil guy. The Venezuelan gangs that took over that town. And it didn't help. That was like a flash point that woke so many people up because it was huge world global news.
Starting point is 01:04:08 And then the news people in the news kind of pretend like it wasn't happening. And other people are like, yo, I live here. Not only that, but stuff like when JD Vance was talking about it and it was the, I don't really care Margaret interview, I believe. But when he said, look, the proper number of apartment buildings to be taken over
Starting point is 01:04:24 by Trende Aragua is zero. That, the proper number of apartment buildings to be taken over by Trendy Aragwa is zero. That's the acceptable number. Any other number is unacceptable. Let's jump to this story. We got this in the Daily Mail. Joe Scarborough defends Donald Trump. Easel. Easel.
Starting point is 01:04:39 That's right, ladies and gentlemen. They say MSNBC host and notorious Trump basher, Joe Scarborough, stunningly defended the president's bombing of Iran over the weekend, saying Hillary Clinton and several previous presidents have all done the same. He's not wrong about that. Morning Joe host surprising take came as discourse swirled about Trump's strike on fortified uranium enrichment facilities and blah, blah, blah. We get it.
Starting point is 01:04:58 Look, I have no problem saying I called it, but so did everyone else. When Trump launched Tomahawk missile strikes in Syria, the media called him presidential. We knew if Trump launches a strike on Iran, the media is going to scream and clap and cheer. And here they are, or at least here's Joe. And you know what one of the big reasons is? One, they're all deep state warmongers, but their views go up. They can see when there's war, they look at their their their metrics and they're like, war is good, because war scares people and then people watch the news. It's a doom economy.
Starting point is 01:05:33 Well, I've been it bleeds it leads to the news. I've been attached for 48 hours since the bombs dropped. I've been just that's the most news. Ian's ever listened to taking news and reading news. Even when we're talking about news, he plugs his ears. I did a two hour call with these Israelis. It was like, they call, it was like Zionist freedom fighters kind of tongue in cheek, but I was like, let's just see, let's go hang out.
Starting point is 01:05:52 And they invited me up to talk. And it's like, I've just been in the machine for 48 hours, man. Yeah. And they wrote you a check to support them? Beat me to it. It's in the mail. They actually invited me to Israel.
Starting point is 01:06:02 It's in the mail. I was invited to go to Israel. I really call it check. I have a question though, because his viewers don't like Trump probably on MSNBC. So why wouldn't he just take the opposite and just bash Trump and, you know, pretend exposure on things that are made up?
Starting point is 01:06:16 Like they always do. Why side with him? He can still, it's still news for him to fight it and come out and bash Trump about it. Because this is the one time for MSNBC their ratings are probably greater than just the people who hate Trump. And so you've got people tuning in now just looking for news. He wants to capture a new audience. They want to get away from, we are the evil Trump.
Starting point is 01:06:37 We only hate Trump. We offer no real news. But more importantly, they want to encourage Trump to do more. Trump is a sucker for people kissing his ass. So when Trump turns on Scarborough and sees everybody cheering for him, he's gonna be like, yeah. And they're hoping he does more. Because I tell you this,
Starting point is 01:06:52 the MSNBC producers are sitting there. I was very crass on X when I posted about it, so I won't do that here. But let's just say they're excited, in a matter of speaking, when they see those numbers, when Trump announces a strike, they immediately are just flush red.
Starting point is 01:07:10 They're high-fiving, they're whipping out the blow, they're having a good time. And they tell Joe, this is a good thing, tell him to do more. Why? Because our ratings are 2X. I think it's partly because he wants to impress Mika Brzezinski, whose father was Big Neve Brzezinski
Starting point is 01:07:26 Yeah from the Council on Forward and Relations. So he's just showing off What did he do his warmonger cred for Mika to get her warmed up? Who did he fund? Who did he fund? Pol Pot for Carter. Oh, did he really? They funded Pol Pot. These people love blood. The morning. Joe lineup is all like CFR Yeah, dude, like all the the international bureaucrats that you don't add people pull pull pot pull pot Can you explain it was a genocidal maniac who shot a lot of people killed the Camille Rouge was Tooth here killed with 20% of the population of Cambodia and they like marched people and had them die on the trail and stuff, millions and millions. I don't know if there's any particular
Starting point is 01:08:07 horrible trail of tears or anything, but it was like there was eight million people in the country and he killed two million of them. And you say Mika's father funded this guy? He was like a Carter guy. I forget what his title was, but they helped fund it to inflate it for some narrative they were spinning. I forget exactly what that was. It's been a while since I read about it but yeah he was the
Starting point is 01:08:26 guy her dad he did a lot of crazy things but that's what I remember of course you're not you're not your father but definitely no but she's in person if you grow up with them she's in that that class though if you're talking about the elite class that like is is is tied into global politics and can't be removed. Mika Brzezinski's in that because it's people like, speaking of Brzezinski from the Council on Foreign Relations, and it's people like Kissinger and stuff like that
Starting point is 01:08:56 that had significant, and the Clintons and stuff have significant influence on global affairs. Did you have something to say? A random question. I'm trying to understand your role in this group. Are you have something to say? A random question. I'm trying to understand like your role in this group. Are you regular here? Just because hilarious question. Yeah, it is because there's like this dynamic and then I'm an animal. He's the wild card. My role is the guy. I'm the healer. You're play role playing games. You always have different takes than everyone
Starting point is 01:09:21 else at the table. Just a random we think it's out of random We think he was dropped as a child. We're still trying to figure it out. I was Always singing as a child. He's very smart, but he why he homes all the time Well, it's point is he wouldn't stop to kept hitting him trying to get him. I did get bullied as a kid I'm just trying to make up for it now without Doing something I regret I think my role here is to heal the world with internet video to provide an opportunity for people to speak and be heard And to think very highly of himself and to subvert the narrative because I'll say really extreme stuff in a real casual quick way And then we just laugh and move on but I seed it into the consciousness
Starting point is 01:09:58 Like I want to overthrow I would love to see the Iranian This totalitarian He's somehow like a soft hippie, but also possibly a tyrant. He's talked about how the US should spread democracy to foreign countries. He wanted Gaza to be the 51st state. I'm playing the global, like the art of war. It was cool. I really take the art of war seriously. I think that we need to subvert the narrative using mass media. Like Sun Tzu's art of war? was cool. I really take the art of war seriously I think that we need to subvert the narrative using mass media art of war
Starting point is 01:10:26 I mean, okay. Yeah, and so, you know act weak when you're strong That's why I act like a silly goof on this show so much Okay. Yeah people give you a lot of like problems online, you know, and like they'll see me and be like well So Ian I'm like Ian's the man and he also like pushes everyone to defend their point by saying something I might sound outlandish to some to people watching. I like it, but there seems to be no consistency. Like he just pokes a hole, pokes a hole, pokes a hole. And I'm like, I don't know where he stands on anything.
Starting point is 01:10:53 Poking holes in ideas. I love doing that. Yeah, it's great. It may just be nuts. No consistency crossland. That's what we call them around here. It's like getting a piggyback ride. Sorry to derail the whole conversation.
Starting point is 01:11:03 I just didn't know. I think so much, so much. And I'll be be thinking about ideas and then I'll poke holes in my own ideas I'll picture Tim telling me like no and I like what would my friends say I picture having conversations with my fan And I okay criticize myself so I do that to him and you when we're talking I poke holes in the joke is I familiar with Dungeons and Dragons The joke is, are you familiar with Dungeons and Dragons? A little bit. So simple version, when you're in the game, you will roll a 20-sided dice to determine whether you succeed or fail at certain tasks.
Starting point is 01:11:32 If you roll a 20, it's called a critical success, and whatever you're doing just works. And if you roll a one, it's called a critical failure, and whatever you're doing just fails, no matter what your stats are. The joke is that Ian can only either roll a one or a 20. You kept saying one, that's a one. Yeah. Okay, got it.
Starting point is 01:11:48 That's why the audience will post, like there's no middle ground. Ian never says anything that's kind of like, oh yeah, I guess it's either, that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard or wow, that's a really great point. It's, you know. That's hyperbolic.
Starting point is 01:11:59 I can be very middle of the road, but it's boring. I like to make big deals out of stuff. I mean, fuck it, dude. We're on one of the hottest shows on earth right now. Make fun of it. Enjoy life, do good, you know? I just think he's crazy. I'm the fool character, that archetype.
Starting point is 01:12:15 Sure. The fool, like Benjamin Franklin style, like friend of the king. The king's like, he's no threat. He's just a goof. What do you think though, and the fool will tell him the truth? Yeah, I don't know. You've advocated for intervention and nation building. Well, I mean...
Starting point is 01:12:30 Well, someone's gotta do it, depends. These hippie dick-chainy. These nations don't build themselves. I used to be just, no more war. Look at South Sudan. Right? They're in need of some regime change. I used to scream no more war. I used to justly say we got to end all the wars and stop stop and now I realize the nuance of
Starting point is 01:12:49 Global power structure and sometimes you need to attack. Yeah, the liberal world order needs to maintain its its hegemony Or they as I mean a feeling Makes me very nervous Because there's a gonna be a new world order, but it's gonna be mostly liberal. You pinpointed. Real liberty. Of this dynamic. I was saying she pinpointed a very important part of this entire dynamic.
Starting point is 01:13:11 Yeah, no good, but then I got like really, I got like overstimulated. I'm sorry for dereliction. Too much sugar. No, it's funny because the chat is always ragging on him, but in real life, everyone I meet loves him. Who gets the loudest applause? Oh yeah, it's Ian.
Starting point is 01:13:25 It's Ian. Because, so we were at Turning Point USA and Ian walks out, everyone starts screaming as loud as they can, and then as we're leaving the show, Ian turns around and falls off the stage five feet and slams us on the ground. That was totally fine. Was that on accident?
Starting point is 01:13:38 No, I didn't see the hole. It was on accident. He bounced right back up. Because the way the stage was, it was like a straight path and then it split, so Ian was walking backwards and turned to wave, it just went straight off. It was divine providence.
Starting point is 01:13:48 It was loud. I was like in the moment. I started making YouTube videos in 06 and I was like, what would Jesus do with this technology? So I was able to clear my mind by being honest on the internet, because once you're honest, you don't get distracted by your secrets and you don't have secrets anymore to get distracted by.
Starting point is 01:14:01 And then you're very aware of your surroundings. So when I fell off the stage, I was like, it was in slow motion and I could move and land on my foot. And you were okay? Yeah. Did everybody see you fall or just the backstage? Oh no, everybody. The whole place, everyone's live streaming,
Starting point is 01:14:14 everyone, like millions of people. But when Ian comes out, the crowd goes nuts. Absolutely. And I think it's because people largely view him as like a wild card. he his his whether intentionally or not Whatever it is. He's claiming like he's saying he's doing on purpose I don't know that he is but it's okay because it's a curveball all the time and that's kind of the point Okay. Well, I'm just gonna make it I'm gonna make it loud and clear that I think you're fantastic
Starting point is 01:14:39 If you have that big of a following I do not want to cross you Last name's Crossland. I like to listen. Listening is such a powerful tool. Let's talk about parents. We got this from the Post-Millennial. Parents' Rights Group files Title IX complaint against Smith College for allowing trans-identified males
Starting point is 01:14:58 into women's only school. Ironically, in what appears to be yet another exercise in sex discrimination, Smith admits natal men who identify as women, but do not admit natal women who identify as men. Wow, wait, really? That's hilarious.
Starting point is 01:15:12 So there's a restaurant that I think is absolutely fantastic. It's called Founding Farmers. There's a bunch of them, you guys ever been there? It is, holy crap, there's one in Reston in Loudoun County. So you know it's gonna be, you gonna be putting on the ritz, right? When you're walking into this shopping district, they have these gigantic LED screens of an aquarium. It's nuts.
Starting point is 01:15:34 And then you walk into this place and there's Saturday, Sunday brunch. It is amazing. And they sell this bourbon barrel aged maple syrup. I love this place. And I went there this weekend and one of the servers walked up said I'm a huge fan man and you I was like well thank you very much and then when I went to the bathroom the bathroom doors says M&W in mind body and spirit and I was like okay that's kind of weird and
Starting point is 01:15:56 creepy and I wonder if they have to do it because of the district because it's Virginia. So they just put it up. But these are shared bathrooms. So I just think like I shouldn't derail off of this story and what's going on. I'm just saying I just find that I took a picture of it. It is very strange. And as a dude, I don't really care if a woman walks into the bathroom when I'm like dropping a deuce. It's like the problem's hers, not mine. But if you're a woman, I can understand if like some dude walks in you're gonna Be upset. I'm not using that bathroom Like I will hold it for days before I'll walk into that bathroom unless I have somebody to guard it and make sure nobody
Starting point is 01:16:32 Else walks in well then then some dudes gonna walk a book. Excuse me, babe And she's gonna be like I someone's in there and it's like yeah Well, I'm gonna you know to push them out of the way and go in there cause a scene Okay, then I guess I just hold it for days. That's crazy. Hey, look, man, all the options are on the table. Is this your organization, Tina? No, this is Defending Ed, good friends of ours. Nikki Neely, their president over there, and she works very closely with Moms for Liberty. But the Smith College or university up there, Smith College is one of the largest women's universities in the country.
Starting point is 01:17:06 And this lawsuit is justified because the people at this school, the faculty at this school have lost their minds, truly. They're violating their admissions policy, they're violating their equal opportunity employment policies by trying to walk this line of sex and gender ideology, conflating them basically. I mean, you can't follow Title IX and your admissions policy to say that you're not going to discriminate against sex and then say you're going to follow gender identity. And so they just kind of mess on their hands and this lawsuit goes after all of those prongs. You know, I do see some benefit to all of this in that it shows how the Civil Rights Act is,
Starting point is 01:17:51 it makes no sense on paper. The issue with most laws that we interpret it as to what makes sense. So for example, with the Civil Rights Act, they were like, okay, we're no more racial discrimination segregation. It makes no sense, right? Why have a white bathroom and a black bathroom?
Starting point is 01:18:05 Right? Okay, let's get rid of that. Now it's just you got a bathroom, okay? Men's room and women's room, and everyone agreed. Now the gender activists are going, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. The same law that got rid of race segregation should get rid of sexual discrimination as well, meaning no more men's and women's room. You just have bathrooms.
Starting point is 01:18:21 You can't discriminate on the basis of sex. So courts have ruled that you can discriminate so long as you offer up an alternative to that group. That way, it's not real discrimination because everyone has access to the same thing, which this is what we saw in the UC system in California, makes no sense because that literally means you can have a white bathroom and a black bathroom because both groups are getting a bathroom.
Starting point is 01:18:43 So now the gender activists are arguing that the Civil Rights Act is hypocritical because it should completely get rid of sex segregated spaces. They need to specify then it's not just about things you can't change about yourself. Sexuality and race are completely different things. Immutable differences. You can't change your skin color, but you can change if you're a man or a woman in your brain. It's not equal at all. Well, the arguments that they've made is
Starting point is 01:19:11 the prerequisite for a protected civil right or protected group is immutability, except in the instance of religion, I suppose. However, the argument falls down to how do you determine race then? Because there's going to be some dude who looks as white as they come and he's going to be one eighth or a quarter black or something. And then people are going to say you don't qualify but he's going to on paper. And then who gets to decide whether someone looks enough like the race? So I think ultimately what's exposed by this is it's actually not the law. It's the spirit
Starting point is 01:19:48 and the intent of what the law was supposed to be. And the Civil Rights Act was specifically about ending racial segregation. So they did. But now, you know, I'll use an example, use a different example. When New York City banned public drinking, there was a quote from a councilman who said something like, let it be said, this law will never be construed to stop a man from having a beer while he's on lunch. You know, at work. They were concerned about public drunkenness. Where are we now? Okay, if you're sitting on your porch in New York and drink a beer, they will give you a ticket. That was never what was intended to happen. What happens is a generation or two goes by, they read what the law says and they say,
Starting point is 01:20:26 the law says what it says, we're gonna do it. And now gender activists have been arguing that under the same law, you can't segregate based on sex because it violates the law the same way racial segregation was violated. I would say that that's all been done on purpose and intentional and I don't wanna take you through a long history lesson here
Starting point is 01:20:44 that you probably already know, but you can go back to the Dear Colleague letter from the Obama administration and where they started changing Title IX then. And they purposely used statewide organizations, especially with school districts and such, to make sure that gender identity was placed in state civil rights codes, in school district policies.
Starting point is 01:21:03 And I was part of that debate when I was running for school board in 2015 because our school district was adding gender identity to our non-discrimination policy. It was happening all across the country during these same couple of years. And I remember the school board because I went back just a couple years ago and went and rewatched it and replayed it because we had a specific school board member who said, I'm voting for this tonight because I just want to make sure our LGBTQ community is safe. This is not about bathrooms. Because we had hundreds of pastors and speakers
Starting point is 01:21:28 that were saying, this is going to lead to boys and girls bathrooms and locker rooms. This is horrible. And they laughed at them and made fun of them. And the school board member said, just like the drinking story you just said, this has nothing to do with locker rooms or bathrooms. I would never vote for this if I thought a boy would be in a girl's bathroom. And here we are just a few years later and it's all about boys and girls bathrooms. Yep would never vote for this if I thought a boy would be in a girl's bathroom. And here we are just a few years later and it's all about boys and girls bathrooms. Yep. Yep. The idea that you can limit the government, once you empower the government that you can limit where they're going to apply whatever power they have that that just doesn't work. You have to think through
Starting point is 01:22:03 it. You have to see it through the end and people don't do that it's unfortunate are you seeing schools getting crazier now after Trump second term or are they getting trying to get better are you why are you watching the news they are pushing that like it's of it but yeah yeah he writes an executive order that says no more boys and girls sports and there's whole states push in Maine I mean the whole states are pushing back and saying, you know, give them the middle finger and fighting it. Why aren't women refusing to compete?
Starting point is 01:22:32 Mostly, and in our case, it's K-12 girls. And some are, you've seen over the last few weeks, they're stepping off the podium, but. Where are the parents? You watch your daughter get up at 5 a.m. every morning and work her tail off year after year after year and she wants to compete as a mom. I'm not gonna tell my daughter she can't compete.
Starting point is 01:22:49 I would, I mean, with all due respect, my child is new and- You're four month old. Right, four month old. So I don't have that same experience. But I genuinely believe that part of the problem is that women support it. They may not literally support it in their minds,
Starting point is 01:23:05 but they will speak out in support of it. And they will push deep, they will push down. So I'll put it this way, they may be thinking in their mind, this is so dumb, why is it so loud? And then they'll come on and say, this is so beautiful and amazing. And that perpetuates it. If, like with most issues, if every parent just said,
Starting point is 01:23:23 my daughter will not compete, it would be over in 10 minutes. But every parent won't, because there are parents that don't want to be shamed, don't want to be bullied, don't want to be attacked, and their children are following in their footsteps. But I think courage is bringing on more courage.
Starting point is 01:23:38 We're seeing more and more girls step up or step off the podium for the award ceremony. And I think that's going to continue. And Moms for Liberty is going to be in this fight the entire way. We have filed numerous lawsuits. We've started collecting. So one of the executive orders was
Starting point is 01:23:55 that the Department of Education put a portal on their website so some of these complaints could be filed there. And then there was a federal injunction that they had to take it down. And so what we've started doing is collecting them on our own so that we can submit them as a whole without the portal that's got the injunction against it. And we've collected over 150 claims so far
Starting point is 01:24:14 to answer your question. Is it still going on? Yeah, and that's only been pushed out to our chapter leaders. We haven't even opened it up nationwide yet. I'm imagining we'll have thousands the minute we do. Like I imagine it's gonna get worse because they're trying to rebel against Trump, right?
Starting point is 01:24:27 Like I taught at a college for many, many years and every semester they would get more deranged. How much do you think, to Shane's point, how much is it true belief in what they're talking about and how much of it is just, you know, I'm mad at Trump because Trump's my dad and I'm mad at dad. Like, because there's gotta be a significant portion of people that will just push back because it's the right, because it's Trump, without putting any thought
Starting point is 01:24:53 into the actual issues at hand. Do you have any sense? Well, we know from polling, all kinds of polling from all different organizations, this is polling about 80%. So 80% of America does not want boys and girls sports. And yet you've got whole states that are pushing back against that, entire universities, entire school districts.
Starting point is 01:25:11 And so that would tell me that those in power are playing a political game. Yeah, it's not like all the students at the college are deciding it. It's the administration and who's running the administration making that decision. Yeah, colleges, you know, I'm not as familiar with because we don't we don't really dive into that a ton.
Starting point is 01:25:28 But I see what I see on the news just like you guys do. There's an awful lot of radical liberals on our campuses right now. The reason I feel so hopeful and I am in an echo chamber in a bubble, but is Riley Gaines is people like Riley Gaines that are like this girl is like a movie star, like she appeared like a hero in a movie and just is like fitting this position inevitably. Simone Biles deleted her ex account. She had like two million followers. Isn't that fabulous?
Starting point is 01:25:52 I mean, not that she deleted her ex account, who cares, but that- She backed down and ran away. Yeah, truth spoken to her and once called out on it. What's an 80-20 issue? When you look at the Pew research on every metric, support for transits has declined, and I would call it like opposition to this movement
Starting point is 01:26:13 has been increasing, even among Democrats, every demographic. And then it was very strange for Simone Biles to come out insulting, wrongly, Riley Gaines, accusing her of being 5'10", which was really weird. Like, this is the problem with the cults, okay? Dave Portnoy met up with, was it Steve Doocy, I think, on Fox and Friends? And you know what they did?
Starting point is 01:26:37 He stood side by side with Doocy, and he was like, this is what they do, they call me short, watch this, stand there. How tall are you, Doocy? He's like, 5'10", 5'11", okay, watch, they stand next to each other in the same height. And he's like, they're all trying to claim that I'm short, because that is what they do. They call me short. Watch this. Stand there. How tall you do see is like five, 10, five. They stand next to each other in the same height. And he's like, they're all trying to claim that I'm short because that's what they do.
Starting point is 01:26:49 And he's right. It's what they do. Activists go online and they say Ben Shapiro is short. Ben Shapiro is not short. I think he's like five, eight. So technically slightly below average or whatever. But five, nine is the average. So Ben being five, eight is only technically short.
Starting point is 01:27:04 You'd meet him and you'd go, oh, he's actually like not short. They claim that I'm short. And then people are like, oh, I thought you were short. I'm like five 10, five 11-ish. Then when they watch this videos of me skating, they're like, Tim actually looks very big. And they also claim in the inverse,
Starting point is 01:27:21 Riley Gaines is massive and manly and masculine and she should have won. They do this because they want to create in the minds of cultists. In the case of Riley Gaines, she's just as big as Leah Thomas. That's why they tied. And then in reality, you're like Riley Gaines
Starting point is 01:27:37 has fought what, five-five? Something like that, five-five. But that's why Simone genuinely believed that Riley was massive because they intentionally lied to confuse the issue. And Simone is so little, like, she, Riley does seem gigantic to her because Simone Biles is like 4'10 or something like that.
Starting point is 01:27:52 Four, she's really small. What, really? Simone Biles is very small, yeah. Did she delete her account because she was ashamed that she'd been spouting the misinformation? Four eight? I doubt it. Whoa!
Starting point is 01:28:02 Is it four eight, that little? Four eight? So, you know, like Riley's almost a foot taller than her. Five eight, five ten, six foot. It's all the same when you're three. You know, seriously man. It'd be a cool culture where to get those two on. Wow. I haven't really been following the drama with them. What exactly happened?
Starting point is 01:28:19 I didn't see it all. Twitter beef. She she told Riley to pick on someone her own size, which ironically would be a man. Oh, okay. And that's the point. Riley Gaines is 5'5", she's average woman height. But Simone is probably told by all these activists, she's this massive woman who's mad that she tied to a man who was the same size as her.
Starting point is 01:28:42 Pardon. But then she doubled down and was supporting men and women's sports. And so everybody started piling on and said, as a female athlete, how can you do this? And so I don't know why she ultimately shut her account down, but- Because it's an 80-20 issue and she was probably, her Q rating was shattering. Trump won the popular vote. And he, and the most effective thing, according to, I think like the New York Times
Starting point is 01:29:06 and Wall Street Journal, they ran this. Trump's gender advertising, when they said Kamala is for they, them, Trump is for you, was one of the most effective ad campaigns that Trump supporters ran. Simone Biles comes out on the other side of an 80-20 issue. Her phone was probably lit up with people saying, you're wrong, you're wrong, you're wrong.
Starting point is 01:29:24 And then the worst thing was she had an AI generated apology, at least I think is reasonable to conclude it was AI. It used the, what is it called, the brackets? Not the brackets, the dashes, M dashes. Yeah, okay. No one writing something online uses M dashes. I do, what's M dashes? It's when you- I love M dashes.
Starting point is 01:29:43 It's the long dash. You never see it, you never see it. Is that dash?. I do. What's M dashes? It's when you hit a long dash. You never see it. You never see it. Is that dash? A longer dash. Instead of using a colon or a semi-colon, you break up the subject or whatever with a long dash. Nobody does that.
Starting point is 01:29:56 AI does that. So when she published this, people were like a PR firm, used chat GPT to generate an apology and posted it, and then everyone attacked her like crazy. Made things worse. And you know what probably happened? like a PR firm use it use chat GPT to generate an apology and posted it and then everyone attacked her like crazy. Made things worse and you know probably happened she probably then went to an actual PR firm and they said stop pouring gas on the fire delete your account. I feel like that's more gas. She
Starting point is 01:30:17 could turn it back on instead of walking away and not doing anything. Technically you're right but I think she probably got rid of it because her phone was just constantly going brr brr brr. Blowing up. You got it. You got to deactivate. You can't use it anymore. With the um, the kit, the kit, the sports thing with the men and women sports, I think there's two, there's two things that are happening at once. There's the fairness of it, like having a six-foot dude that is taking chemicals and wearing a wig and just beating on a girl or blowing past her in the pool obviously is bizarre in some ways to a lot of people. That's happening. But then there's the whole trans thing that happened over the last 10 years like Chloe Cole when she was I think 14 she transitioned
Starting point is 01:30:54 to a boy had her breasts removed and then she woke up and realized what the fuck is going on? What have these people told me? What have these doctors done to me? And now she travels the world explaining what she's gone through all these kids are waking up and realizing they're OK. You are you are you as I was explaining earlier about my daughter who a burp was the worst experience she's ever had because you the baby a 14 year-old is also limited in their
Starting point is 01:31:21 experiences and don't understand I just why we protect children took for granted and I Mister Rogers and he would tell me stuff that my parents had told me, you're okay, just who you are. That's okay. And I just don't, I just took it for granted that everyone, I thought everyone was told that. Yeah, but now, you know, I'm really really freaked out and disgusted by Coco Mellon and Miss Rachel and stuff like this. It is nightmare dystopia level stuff. I mean, I feel like if you went back 20 years, and not maybe 30, go to the 90s, go to the early 90s, and make a film where in the future when a baby cries, the parent takes a stone scrying stuff and puts it
Starting point is 01:31:58 in front of the baby and presses play. And a woman just stares at her and goes, Oh, they'd be like, this is a nightmare, what is going on? And it's like, in the year 2025, parents no longer look at their kids. The machine teaches your children. And then it's not just Coco Mellon and Miss Rachel. A lot of this kid's programming is deranged. Like, now we can talk about Alcagate
Starting point is 01:32:23 and all the really weird stuff, but even the general kid stuff where it's like counting and it's some like fat disgusting guy who's like barking and making strange sounds and then like hitting things with hammers. I'm like, parents are putting this in front of their kids. Their brains will be turned to jello. It's crazy to me that there's popular channels for kids to watch other kids open up toys and play with them.
Starting point is 01:32:44 Yep. That is so, and they're like millions and millions of views. They're huge. It's because parents don't want to watch their kids. Yeah, they've outsourced it to everything. Public schools, to YouTube. Well, this happened today as well. My daughter started crying because she wanted to watch The Five. She wanted... And she found out that Gene Shapiro's not on anymore, right? Gene Shapiro?
Starting point is 01:33:04 Judge Jeanine. Judge Jeanine. She's not on anymore, right? Gene Shapiro? Judge Jeanine. Judge Jeanine. She's not on anymore and your daughter's freaking out, right? No, she loves Gutfeld. Oh, Gutfeld, okay. And so she's crying and then, you know, my wife is like, you know, what's wrong?
Starting point is 01:33:14 And she burps her and then when she holds her down, she looks straight up at the TV and then stops crying. And my wife's like, absolutely not. Yeah, that happened to me when I was four with the Atari. I remember my cats died and I was crying and I came in, I sat down and played Atari and immediately stops crying and my wife's like, absolutely not. Yeah, that happened to me when I was four with the Atari. I remember my cats died and I was crying and I came in, I sat down and played Atari and immediately stopped crying. I was like, I'm not sad. And I remember as a four year old thinking,
Starting point is 01:33:32 if I'm ever sad, I can play video games and it'll go away. This is a true story by the way. When Jesse Waters is on the screen, my daughter cries. It's not just Jesse, it's everybody. When Greg is on, she stops and she just stares. I was gonna just indiscriminately insult Jessie. I think we're hearing who you like and don't like through your daughter.
Starting point is 01:33:48 I think Jessie Waters is fantastic, and I think the cast of the five is all fantastic, except for Tarlove. She is the absolute worst. She goes on the five and she's like, did you see, and her mouth shakes side, like what is it, Jessica? What is up with the, I hope you're listening you listen have you noticed liberals when they talk they their mouth
Starting point is 01:34:07 goes like this destiny like talking like this and their mouth swings left and right when they're talking I'm like why is their jaw doing that at all yeah it's where it's called meth mouth it's good it's a terrible I don't know if she does that but anyway I digress I'm not trying to rag on her for the way her mouth moves she says Donald Trump's polling is now minus 16. It's so awful and I'm like every single day the first thing we do is I pull up the aggregate of polling ratings for Trump on all of the issues as well as Congress and I check those every day. Trump's actually been doing fairly well slightly
Starting point is 01:34:40 down when you track across all polls he's gone down a little bit across all the metrics but he's chilling slightly below the margin of error maybe around like minus four in aggregate it's hard to know she goes on TV and just says this and I'm like where's Jessie or anyone else tell her she's she's wrong to be like that is incorrect you've cherry picked a random poll which we call static these people these liberals will wait until one poll gives a swing result and then go, look how bad Trump is doing.
Starting point is 01:35:08 And then if you actually track all the polls, you're like, Trump's down.3? It's like not even that big of a deal. It's a big deal. An AI that is like an overlay on news that is constantly criticizing the newscaster and saying this is right, this is wrong. You can't trust the AI.
Starting point is 01:35:22 Yeah. That's like asking fact checkers. That's true too, but like an open source product that you could apply to your Roku or something. You can definitely use it as a tool. You get that by watching streamers on Twitch. And as we just mentioned earlier, current versions of ChatGPT and Grok does this way worse.
Starting point is 01:35:38 They make things up. The crazy thing is Grok makes fake URLs. I haven't seen that. I asked it for a news story and it said, here's a story about this thing and it gave me a link and I clicked it and it said, cannot find this story. So it looks like it's been deleted. But Grok was telling me a story happened that never happened
Starting point is 01:35:54 using a fake link to a real website. That's crazy. Did Elon say some mean things to Grok this weekend or something? Grok said that the right is more violent than the left, and he responded, that's objectively false, we're going to fix it. It is objectively false.
Starting point is 01:36:09 Oh, that's good. So what happens is the right is not organized. The right doesn't understand why protests are important. Protests are important for one reason. When a liberal opens their app and they see 500 people protesting and they're told the whole world has risen up, their brain sees a massive crowd and goes,
Starting point is 01:36:30 wow, it's everyone. And then it's this tiny little group. They think they are the majority because they see a group of people on the screen. So when the right doesn't protest and doesn't organize, people on the left don't see this and they just think, but nobody supports the right, it people on the left don't see this and they just think, but nobody supports the right. It's always the left.
Starting point is 01:36:48 I think you can take that further and elected officials will vote one way or another depending on the amount of people they see rise up or on social media. How many postcards they get? Yeah, well, I mean, I saw that. I served on school board 2016 to 2020 after Parkland and we were just two districts north of that.
Starting point is 01:37:04 And we were voting on ar north of that and we were voting on arming staff to protect schools. And for weeks, Moms Demand Action came in and Red for Ed came in in their red shirts, thousands of them, all the things laying on the ground, tombstones, ketchup on them or killing them by because we wanted armed security in our schools. But we stood as an entire board and superintendent who he was a Democrat. We had a, I think a Democrat on the board, an independent, something like that, a mix of people, mostly conservative, but others too. And we stood in a press conference publicly
Starting point is 01:37:32 and said we were gonna support arming staff. Period, end of story. We're gonna vote on this. We're bringing it for debate in one meeting and we're gonna vote on the next meeting. After about six weeks of mom's demand action and Red for Ed showing up in their red shirts, last man standing was me, the only one that voted for it on the night because of all the
Starting point is 01:37:50 theatrics, because of all the protests. I live in a 60% red community that absolutely supported it, but they didn't come out to speak or to show up. Oh, because they were intimidated? I don't think they were intimidated. I think they were emotionally swayed. I watched it happen one by one. That's even worse.
Starting point is 01:38:07 Well, I don't know what's worse, actually. I didn't expect that to be swayed. To be honest, I never want to give anybody credit for starting Moms for Liberty, but I experienced that and I saw that. And so when I wanted to create a group to represent conservative values, to be impactful in school and in policies
Starting point is 01:38:26 that affect children and families and parental rights, you know, what am I gonna do? Well, we're gonna have blue shirts. We're not gonna have red shirts, but we're gonna do the same type of thing because there's no counter pushback. There's nobody else protesting from our side because we don't have that.
Starting point is 01:38:39 Did David Hogg show up? David Hogg went after me on Twitter at the time, a ton during that time period. All right, we're gonna go to your chats, my friends. So smash that like button, share the show with everyone you know, and turn up the knob and rip it off. We're gonna go to that uncensored show at 10 p.m.
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Starting point is 01:39:28 Sailor Motoko says Dave Smith's career only casualty in the US, career only casualty in US Iran war. Dave Smith's career is the only casualty in the war. Oh, I see, Dave Smith's career. Dave Smith is a North Star. I can't speak for him, but he's been principled and direct and honest and essentially saying the same things for at least five years. Since I've ever known him, I've never seen him oscillate.
Starting point is 01:39:54 He probably learns new information and integrates it, but the guy's about as legit of a speaker as you can have. So I don't quite understand that. All right, Barry N. McGrowen says, those 72 virgins must be getting old by now. They all must be in nursing homes by now. It's 72 year old virgins. Oh.
Starting point is 01:40:13 Let's go. I think Family Guy made the joke that they were all male nerds. Yeah. The guy goes to heaven and it's a bunch of dorky guys being like, we're playing Dungeons and Dragons. Yeah, exactly. D&D everywhere.
Starting point is 01:40:23 D&D everywhere. Sheergaal says, can you add a sneak attack counter for the entertainment of the chat? It wasn't a sneak attack. Trump did launch, I disagree in a sense. I guess it's fair to say negotiations ended and Trump said he may or may not do it. So that's technically not a sneak attack.
Starting point is 01:40:43 If he had said, we're not going to strike, let's get back to the negotiating table and then did it. So it's half. Well, I think it was a full on sneak attack. They sent two bombers out West to get them off the trail. That's not a sneak though. That's a decoy. Oh, not necessarily.
Starting point is 01:40:57 So sneak attack, it's a deceptive attack. However you want to call it. I mean, it's- Sneak attack implying it was done in secret to deceive them. He told them. They don't see it. He said, I may or may not do it. I will make a decision within two weeks. And then he call it. I mean, it's a sneak attack implying it was done in secret to deceive them. He told them they don't see. He said, I may or may not do it. I will make a decision within two weeks. And then he did it. He also gave them 60 days and started attacking after this on the 61st day. And he'd also been saying that Iran can't have a nuclear weapon since like 2011. So
Starting point is 01:41:19 it's not really a shock. There was warning. There were signs. All right. Pinochet says, Tim, you asked what determines what sends someone to South Sudan. You need to understand what someone did to have to be sent to South Sudan and then shown the door. I imagine it's bad. It's flying says Trump's greatest gift is to make people realize that they have to talk to one another. I don't know. I got friends who are liberals and they are going cult. Dude, it's like a lot of my friends are are are are soothing and there's a few of my friends that are like it's getting I don't know I haven't seen them in so long. Like the conversations becomes I don't want to manifest this whole you know I don't want
Starting point is 01:41:57 to make it worse than it than it could be because it could be great. But I feel what you're saying. Pinochet says the people sent to South Sudan are guilty of heinous crimes where they are from as well as what they did here Most already served times in our jail time in our jails. They can't stay here in Sudan. They are released interesting I'm gonna head out guys. All right, Shane Cashman. Thank you. So good to see you I love you. Where can everybody find you you find me at Shane Cashman everywhere online The show is inverted world live YouTube rumble the phone lines will be open from 10 To 12 tonight Monday through Thursday. We'll see you guys there. Thank you for having me everyone can call everyone
Starting point is 01:42:30 How many callers do you get through per night? Depends on how many questions we get through in the story on average between you said serial killer called in I mean it's possible the guy in Austin No, isn't there they're worried about one in New England. Yeah. Really? Yeah. I heard there's a serial killer in Austin who kills gay dudes. Yeah, they find him in the river there. Yeah. They think someone's drugging.
Starting point is 01:42:52 There was a story where a guy said he went to a bar and he was not a gay guy. He got drugged off his drink, and someone tried pushing him over, and then he was able to get away. Or someone stopped it. Someone keeps saving him. There's someone who was saved out of the river, right? Let me see Graham be careful in Austin. What's the topic? Do you have a topic for your shit the show tonight?
Starting point is 01:43:11 I'm gonna talk about a giant eyeball falling out of the sky and Some UFOs that jet that giant steel UFO they found. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it might be part of a weather antenna, but we'll find out later Really spoiler alert interdimensional sasquatch you guys all right see you later man all right i was talking to uh thomas massey earlier and i said you know because he was like he doesn't want to vote for the big beautiful bill and i was like yeah but they got the short act and the hearing protection act and then he was like he jokingly said you know maybe if they repeal the nfa i'd vote for it or something and i'm like like, do it. I mean, I see when when Trump calls and says, I want you to vote in the bill, say,
Starting point is 01:43:49 repeal the NFA and I'll do it. Yeah, like the good outweighs the bad. Come on, let's go. Absolutely. And that was a good interview. You guys did today. I already minutes on your channel. Yeah, just talking to see.
Starting point is 01:44:01 Yeah. Very familiar. Think he would you think he'd compromise on it if he could get the NFA repealing the NFA is so big, man. I don't know if he actually would, but do you know what the NFA is? National Firearms Act. Yeah. It's it. Yeah. Bigly familiar. Yeah. It should be repealed. Makes no sense. There was a photo of an ICE officer with a rifle and had a suppressor on it.
Starting point is 01:44:26 Yeah. And all these liberals were like, why does an ICE agent need a silencer? There's only one reason. Because they literally don't know anything about guns. It's like, guys, it's not going to go pew pew pew. It's going to go bang, bang, bang, but it will be safer for everybody. They don't get it. They don't get it.
Starting point is 01:44:44 They watch too many movies. I Posted that picture and I was like, this is just safety equipment. I got like a million. Yeah actions Disgruntled vet says my two deployments in Iraq. It taught me an important thing Muslims respect power and see compassion as weakness PS please make a Civil War board What is that a Civil War board? Board game or is that like Civil War board? Board game? Or is that like an advent calendar? An advent calendar? Through the countdown to the Civil War and inside there's like you know like things to make homemade weapons. Things that are happening that are moving us
Starting point is 01:45:18 closer to the Civil War you would move them in place. Oh right. Tom Billy who said when a nation's what is it debt to GDP ratio is 130. And we're at like 122, and it's rapidly. Aren't we at 128? 128 is it? I don't know. I think he's saying. He says that's when they collapse or what?
Starting point is 01:45:34 That's when civil war usually breaks out in a country. He's actually probably talking about it. We're at 123. Yeah, you were right. 123. He's talking about something that Ray Dalio probably said. We desperately need to resolve this economic system, but I think it's a foolish.
Starting point is 01:45:43 Well, there's other concern that the Pentagon warned of an Iranian cyber attack. Yeah, so of course Some people are genuinely like I think Iran's gonna hit our grid Then there are people saying the US is going to intentionally sabotage the grid as a justification for going to war Oh, didn't they take out a bunch of Iranian Bitcoin? Crypto in general. So do you have your Bitcoin in cold storage off the web yet? Because it might be a good idea might be a good idea Crypto in general. So do you have your Bitcoin and cold storage off the web yet? Because it might be a good idea. It might be a good idea.
Starting point is 01:46:08 That's the crazy thing about crypto. Get your keys. Like someone robs a bank and steals all the gold, your money's gone. I got something called a ledger where I can plug it in my computer and get my keys local so they're not on like Binance. I hold a lot of my crypto local. Smart. Technically, it's still online.
Starting point is 01:46:23 I just have the keys local. So yeah. Well, I mean, that's the way that it works. All right. Ready to rumble says Tim is delusional thinking Iran can push a button that will cost the US billions. Why haven't they Tim? You are fake news. You are fake news.
Starting point is 01:46:36 No, you're fake news. You know, what are you? Who are you? Huh? Just coming in here. Call each other names. Why haven't they? Because for the same reason people who have hostages tend not to shoot them.
Starting point is 01:46:48 Because once you get rid of your hostage, you have no leverage. The U.S. actually has real concerns that Iran has infiltrated industrial control systems in the U.S. and we don't know where. The likelihood that every adversarial nation has infiltrated every other nation's industrial control systems, I'd say it was 100%. Much of the industrial control systems that we have in the United States are operating off software from 1970. And so it's a few lines of code that can be easily broken into. They've been over the past 15 or so years updating, but we're talking about something like 70,000 facilities across the United States. And so they can shut down water, they can shut down electricity, they can do all those things. Why haven't they yet?
Starting point is 01:47:28 It's like asking, what, you really think the US can press a button and fire 12 nuclear warheads? Why haven't they? Why hasn't the US nuked Israel? I mean, sorry, nuked Iran. But, so the argument then is that the US doesn't have the capability to use nukes because the US has never done it? No. It's because if Iran needs to, they could. Russia could too.
Starting point is 01:47:52 I'll reiterate the whole wiping your Bitcoin to zero tactic is not going after our government's money. It's the American people's money. So protect your assets too. Alex DelBuse's, Alex Jones, Luke Rutkowski, the Hodge Twins, Candice Owens, Nick Fuentes, Elijah Schaefer, MTG, Dave Smith, Tucker, Bannon, and others owe Trump a huge apology. Agreed. I as well. I have no issue with being wrong. In fact, I beg, I hope, and I pray that I was completely wrong about everything. Because we all have trauma from the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.
Starting point is 01:48:21 So when we see the escalation of conflict with Iran, Afghanistan wars. So when we see the escalation of conflict with Iran, and we see the statements of people like Bolton and other neocons who have been calling for regime change, and then Trump truths out, regime change? Maybe? We're all kind of like, holy crap, is it happening? If this ceasefire sticks and the war ends, then Trump will have hit a grand slam and I have no problem saying I was wrong and thank God I was.
Starting point is 01:48:43 Yeah, just because people are predicting, hey, this is what I think is gonna happen, doesn't mean that that's what you want to happen. And a lot of people behave as if it is, it's like, oh, you said this, it's like, well, I was wrong and everybody's better for it, you know? Templar Brethren says, Teddy Roosevelt, speak softly but carry a big stick, you will go far.
Starting point is 01:49:03 Seems close to what Trump has been doing recently. Indeed. I think Trump's intention with the, we're going to think about it and then bombing them very much is a, Trump has no problem pressing the button. If it were Biden as president, Iran would have been like, screw yourself. They would, they have no fear. Not only do they think he wouldn't do it, but he'd be incapable of organizing and leading if that was the case. Not Trump. Trump probably called them up afterward and says, you want to play chicken, we'll play chicken and I'll press the button every time. Who the president is actually matters. And that's something that the left doesn't seem to believe. They think that they can just so long as they or they can put anyone in that in that seat, and the results will be the same.
Starting point is 01:49:45 But that's just patently false. That is not true at all. Also the secretary of defense, like Lloyd Austin, was like 80 or something, and he like went on vacation and didn't tell anybody, he went AWOL. Went on medical leave. Went on medical leave and didn't tell anyone, and went, this is AWOL, he went AWOL.
Starting point is 01:49:58 And this old guy went AWOL, that was our defense commander. So now we got a real warrior training with the troops in the morning, leading the department. So that's another. And it goes along with their entire ideology, if you think about it. Everyone is the same. Everyone is equal.
Starting point is 01:50:13 There is no real strong leader. There's no one smarter than anyone else. So why does it matter who's president or the secretary of defense if we're all the same? I wouldn't be surprised if Trump got on the phone with Iran right after the bombing and said, the next one's a nuke and then Just hung up and they're probably like
Starting point is 01:50:28 Cuz Trump famously said he called Putin and she and said if you to Putin if you invade Ukraine I'll nuke Moscow and he's like, I don't know if he believed me maybe 5% But it's enough same thing with she in Beijing you take time you moving to Taiwan. I will nuke Beijing They say like what they talk about back channel communication Which I imagine means there's a whole other level of comms happening right now between nations that it's not appearing on the news Well, yeah, there's there's like a lot of times you'll talk to like so one country won't talk to another like the US and Iran Maybe they don't have a specific direct connection, but they'll both talk to Qatar. So the US that's what happened.
Starting point is 01:51:07 Yeah, exactly. So like the US talked to Qatar and Iran talked to Qatar and there's like, okay, and then Iran fired missiles at Qatar. Yeah, they warned that they were about to do it. They fired as a kind of they actually won. They're about to do it. Or was Trump just being cheeky? Oh, maybe they pretty sure that Trump said because of the advanced notice, he might have just been saying,
Starting point is 01:51:26 "'Your missiles are shite.'" You know what I mean? I was under the impression that they actually did notify the Qataris, but... Well, then they're a bunch of losers, because Iran's like, "'Oh no, U.S. attacked us. We're gonna fire six missiles
Starting point is 01:51:39 that will be easily intercepted, and then we're done. War's over.'" The Iranians don't know that. The people inside of Iran, like... Right. They think they retaliated. Exactly. So to them, they'll just be like, "'Well, this is what happened.'" And then they're gonna, war's over. The Iranians don't know that. The people inside of Iran, like. Right. They think they retaliated. Exactly. So to them, they'll just be like, well, this is what happened. And then they're going to come out of the news
Starting point is 01:51:49 and say, we successfully dealt this amount of damage. Absolutely. Yeah. Those damn Jews, and we fought off the Americans. And yeah, you know, there were some casualties, but nothing that the Iranian regime. The great Satan. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:52:02 The great Satan and the little Satan. Don't worry, the righteous Iranian regime will persevere. Jordan Sturdivant says, all the pundits attacking MAGA who disagreed with the strike, the Iran strikes are actively damaging the movement. Many view this as a violation of America First and attacking them for it's a losing strategy. I agree. Really? Well, Trump went after Massey hard.
Starting point is 01:52:27 And Massey was saying he's doing that for the other reps, not necessarily for him, because he's tried priming him before, but Massey's massively powerful. He wants to make an example of Thomas Massey that if anyone else steps out of line, that they're gonna get the Massey treatment. I think though, him, I just still,
Starting point is 01:52:40 I still haven't seen evidence that there was an imminent threat from Iran for him to launch a strike without going to Congress first and that's Massey's big deal. Didn't you see Trump yelled they're coming right for us? Oh he said that? Okay then I guess we're okay. And then he pressed the button and the shit went right. You're coming right for us. I love South Park.
Starting point is 01:52:56 Yeah that's a good one. We're not legally allowed to kill animals anymore unless they're an imminent threat so now we have to yell it's coming right for us before we shoot it. It worked. Yeah. America 76 says, I'd bet money that this wall, this was all agreed to prior to the nuclear strikes. Site strikes for regimes staying in power. It's why Iran appeared to be frozen out by Russia, Pakistan, et cetera. Possibly.
Starting point is 01:53:19 The idea being that Trump went to Iran and said, we're gonna bomb your sites, but we're not going to invade. And then Iran caved and said, okay. And then we blew them up. We left and that was it. It does kind of seem a little pre-planned. I mean, I have, you know, I'm not an expert in this area, but the 12 days war as it's called now, which never was a war actually.
Starting point is 01:53:41 It's just fascinating to watch it all unfold. Maybe the reason that the US did the strikes is because Iran in the negotiations said, our people will never tolerate us dismantling our weapons. And then Trump said, we'll blow them up. So we'll target these sites, we'll bomb them. I don't know if I believe it considering they killed so many IRGC. Yeah, and also like the Iranian people don't really back the Iranian regime. So it's not like the Iranian people I don't know that I believe that no no
Starting point is 01:54:09 Why I mean, what's the source American propaganda the people of this country hate their government? Yeah Well, you can show videos of leftist protesting and tell people in North Korea Americans hate their government, too You know enough like when you know We had that debate on Friday and the woman who was debating said that people in Iran largely support Israel and I was like, no, they don't. She was like, they do and I'm like, no one anywhere would support a foreign country bombing their nation. Even if you don't like your government, you don't want your soldiers to be blown up. That's ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:54:38 Only if you want to be liberated like the French in World War II and the Americans came in, but they were being gentle with the infrastructures. Yeah, and the Americans weren't attacking the French. No, after D-Day, when they landed in France and started rolling through and they were blowing up bridges and towns were getting blown up, but the French were still glad to see them. Because they were under occupation
Starting point is 01:54:56 by a foreign government and they were being freed from them. So it's possible that these people in Iran feel like they're under occupation from this theocracy. Well, some may. I don't think they were blowing up villages either. They weren't aiming for civilians, but they would definitely take out buildings if the Nazis were in there shooting at them.
Starting point is 01:55:12 Yeah, that's a blow to those hometowns and stuff. You got hope says, come on, man. I just bought Raytheon stocks. Sad face. Yeah, actually the aftermarkets are not so good on some of these oil prices went down. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 01:55:24 7% because speculation. So when when Iran was threatening to close straight of Hormuz people started speculating. So they were like, we're going to buy it up now before the price spikes. Then when Trump announces a ceasefire, everyone's like sell ceasefire if it holds. All right, Shaquille oatmeal says Tim huge.
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Starting point is 01:56:03 Like O'Neal. Sorry to ruin the joke, guys. Oh, I just hear the same thing oh really oatmeal and oatmeal accent on the first syllable of the second syllable wrong and fascist oatmeal is what you mean oatmeal is like she's a label you put the wrong and fascist on the wrong syllable oh good holes again yeah. Some people say pajama, some people say pajama, I say pajama. That's right, pajama. Oh my God. I'd never heard pajama, no. That was new to me.
Starting point is 01:56:35 That was actually when I was like 12, I was talking with my friends and they were arguing over pajama versus pajama and they were like half arguing and they were like, which one is it Tim? And I didn't wanna get in the middle of the argument. So I made us went, Tajima. And everyone's laughing.
Starting point is 01:56:48 I thought you made that up right now. No, you really have been using that. It's a 40 year old joke. You've been in your pocket for decades. Decades. It's in on that one. Yep. Tajima.
Starting point is 01:56:57 Tajima. Bill Graham says, Trump fractured his base bigly. Many have noticed the underlying problem. Our government has all bought and paid for. Midterms gone, 2028 gone, gone MAGA gone said I don't disagree I don't know for sure but I agree somewhat in that I think the probability that I'll put it this way I think it's there's a decent probability Trump just lost three or four points. Libertarian votes gone he's going to lose about a point and a half two points from that so. Two days ago I was like, impeach him. Let's see what happens.
Starting point is 01:57:25 Do it. If the impeachment is not good, then it won't go through. Massey said no. Massey said don't do it today. And I was like, well, OK. But I mean, he brings Massey back into the fold. Will that help his libertarian numbers again? Well, it's more so about what he does that gets Massey in the fold.
Starting point is 01:57:40 If Trump just came out and said, you know what? I'm sorry to Thomas Massey. He's a good dude. No. But if he came out and said, OK, we're going to negotiate with Massey Massey what he want. And he says, repeal the NFA. And Trump said, you know what, I'm sorry to Thomas Massie, he's a good dude, no. But if he came out and said, okay, we're gonna negotiate with Massie Massie what do you want? And he says, repeal the NFA.
Starting point is 01:57:48 And Trump said, we'll work on it. And the libertarians are gonna start spanking themselves. Woo. I'm still of the opinion that, especially considering the way this seems to be working out, the only thing that's gonna derail Trump is gonna be a bad economy. If especially like,
Starting point is 01:58:00 cause a couple of days ago we were talking about this and the, I was hypothetically saying, if this were to go like this right like it's just the strikes we don't invade there's nothing else Iran just does you know some kind of some kind of like wave the white flag or whatever and it doesn't turn into a big war then the only thing that's gonna be able to take Trump out would be some something unforeseen like a black swan event between now and the midterms or the economy. That's it. And I'm shocked at how well he's navigated this, to be honest with you. I'm a little surprised that that Iran has actually done what everyone kind of
Starting point is 01:58:40 hoped they would do. I kind of thought they were a little more crazy, but I don't see this being a problem for MAGA because it doesn't get us into a long drawn-out war If it if it if the conditions on the ground change yes But if it doesn't get us into a war and this is done and over this is not going to be any different to Soleimani if this ceasefire holds Trump is gonna be having a victory per yeah, I'd be figuratively but like Wow, yeah to pull off a surgical strike like this and then that basically shuts the escalation down
Starting point is 01:59:12 and then we don't get a furtherance of the war. Wow. So it'll be massive. My friends, we're gonna go to that uncensored portion of the show. We've got a major, major treat for you all. Only on the uncensored portion. We've got a big announcement, big, big announcement.
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