Timcast IRL - THIS CROSSES THE LINE w/ Savannah Craven

Episode Date: January 30, 2026

Tim, Phil, Ian, & Lisa are joined by Savannah Craven to discuss Tim Walz comparing ICE raids to Fort Sumter and cries Civil War, a star of Breaking Bad calling for a American revolution over ICE, a man posing as an FBI agent attempting to free Luigi Mangione, and Democrats freaking out over the FBI election raid.   Hosts:  Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) Lisa @LisaElizabeth (X)  Ian @IanCrossland (everywhere) | https://graphene.movie/ Producer: Serge @SergeDotCom (everywhere) Guest: Savannah Craven @SavannahCraven5 (X) |  @HerPatriotVoice  (YT)

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Match with a licensed therapist today at Talkspace.com. Save $80 with code space 80 at talkspace.com. You know, Tim's been saying it for a long time that we're on the road to civil war, and it seems like people are starting to agree. And I'm not talking about just anyone mainstream people, like Tim Walls. You've got, who was it, Ray Dalio's talking about it. Minnesota has really got people all worked up. There was an attempt from a guy from Minnesota to break Luigi A. Mangione out of jail.

So we're going to talk about that. he's like a 36 year old crazy guy and air marshals have mistaken ice agents for uh our air marshals were mistaken for ice agents and they're chased out of an LA county restaurant so we're going to talk about all that stuff but first we want you to go and buy some coffee casprue.com you can buy all of our wonderful coffee you can get the the two weeks till Christmas you can get Josie 1717

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friends, tell everyone you know, joining us to talk about all these things tonight. I'm sorry, I didn't get your name earlier. Savannah Craven. Savannah Craven. Yeah. Tell everyone who you are. Sure. Well, I'm really happy to be here.

So thank you so much for having me. My name is Savannah and I am the face of her Patriot voice on YouTube where I go out and interview lots of liberals and expose their hypocrisy and try not to get assaulted. That's probably a good idea. You did get assaulted? Oh, yeah. It was very viral. We'll talk about that.

It's very viral. Ian's here. Hey, everybody. I was just going to compliment you on how good you are not getting assaulted, but I'll wait until after I hear the facts. Happy to be here at Ian Crossland. You're going to find me all over the internet. Check out graphing.comovie.

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She's going to be talking. I'm not in promise. From the post-millennial, Tim Walls warns Minnesota could be a Fort Sumter moment after his policies caused chaos in the state. In an interview with the Atlantic, Minnesota Governor Tim Walls warned that the rising tension in a state between anti-ice agitators and federal immigration enforcement agents could be a Fort Sumter moment for the country. I mean, is this a Fort Sumter? He questioned, adding, it's a physical assault. It's an armed force that's assaulting, that's killing my constituents, my citizens. The Atlantic noted of Walt's Fort Sumter comment.

he let his question about Fort Sumter hang without an answer. Fort Sumter, which lies in the middle of South Carolina's Charleston Harbor, was the site of an April attack in 1861 that marked the official beginning of the Civil War. Waltz also brought up abolitionist John Brown during his interview with the Atlantic, with the figure rising to fame after storing a federal arsenal in Harbor's Ferry, West Virginia, in 1859. Guns pointed at American, it's certainly not where we want to go, said Waltz. I mean, this is something that Tim's been talking about for a long time. I mean, we've got the phrase, you know, where's the off ramp?

Like, how do you defuse this? And when you have the state government clearly inciting their population, there's a possibility that they're involved because of the signal chat stuff, if it's not, you know, if it doesn't go up to Tim Walts himself, there are people in the state government that were involved in that signal chat, helping to organize what an, um, amounts to an insurrection. It's not just a protest or just protesters. They're there specifically to inhibit ice activities.

They're there to specifically prevent ice from carrying out. They're their duties that are, you know, by the, that are by the book that are legally, you know, that's what they're, they're supposed to be doing. So if it is a Fort Sumter moment or if it is a situation like that, it is the Democrat, basically the Democrat establishment that's the blame. Oh, absolutely. I mean, I don't know why Tim Walls is acting like he's so surprised because, like you said, he's the one who's been inciting this violence. This is his state. He's responsible. And why don't we just mention that this all happened after all of this fraud was exposed by an independent journalist, Nick Shirley. And what did they want to blame it on? Racism. You guys hate Somalians. You hate black and brown people. No, instead of focusing on the real problem, they just want to blame everyone else. But Tim Walls knew about this fraud. I believe that. So to your point, I do think that it's convenient for walls and for other politicians in Minnesota.

But the fact that there's that that signal chat, that's really, I think that really kind of shines a light on the way the Democratic Party as a whole acts, or actually probably more broadly the left. There's people that are Canadian that are implicated in the Canadian government, implicated in being involved or donating or trying to facilitate that. Yeah, I forget who broke the story. it's not just you know it's not homegrown it's not just people you know grassroots people on the street it's organized by the establishment left and and it's something that you know Tim has been going on about how the right doesn't have you know an analog for that and I mean whether or not that's that's actually the case it's not you like you can't deny that the left is organized against the federal government right and if Tim Walls really cared about the people

of Minnesota, his people, he would say, listen, although I don't agree with ICE, you need to stay home, do not interact with ICE officers, do not try to interrupt them because you will lose your life. They want them to lose their lives. Well, I think they really do. I think that they say these things and they get them to go out there. They want them to lose their lives so that they have something to be more enraged about so that they can create more chaos. Like, that's what they want. They want the most chaos possible. I really think that like I was reading their manual. They asked them, like I said this the other night,

they asked them to bring leaf blower so they could redirect like the tear gas and stuff towards the cops. They said you get extra bonus points or that. They're looking to get people hurt. What do you mean by extra bonus points? That's what I don't know. That's what this. That's literally what said.

It said, pay protesters. Do you want me to pull it over? No, no, I mean, I believe you. I believe you. I'm just wondering what they're what they actually mean by bonus points. I don't know. I mean, bonus points.

But this is what they want. They want pure chaos. And he wants it to be the Fort Sumter time. Did any of you guys see the ex post where there was a, someone was handing out pre-made signs to protesters and stuff? So, I mean, they do it in New York all the time. Yeah. So this is, again, this isn't some kind of grassroots thing. This is, this is, it is organized. They're extremely efficient at raising money.

They're extremely efficient at riling up their base, riling up the people that are honestly, their people with not a lot to lose generally. Not everyone, of course, because, you know, Pretty, the guy that was shot by the cops just the other day. Like, you know, he had a life. He had, he didn't have, I don't think he had a wife and kids, but he had a life. He was a nurse, you know, it was a legitimate kind of life. It wasn't like some kind of vagrant or just a person that was consistently in and out of, out of jail or whatever. But that's the shock troops, really. The people that don't have a lot to lose. They don't have families. They don't have real jobs. It's, you know, they tend to be just kind of part. time or short-term jobs or what have you or they're they're just activists um and to lisa's point these people are just cannon fodder because the more of them that get hurt the more videos that they the left can use as propaganda you know which is it's straight up adjutop the more the more that they can use these people to turn the normal people against the administration the better they

like it yeah it's taking away from the real problem and they're deflecting they're you know covering up the real problems that the Democrats are causing in our country. And unfortunately, this past week, I have seen, especially after the Alex Preddy situation, many conservatives falling for this anti-ice propaganda. And while, of course, I do, I am very sad that, you know, Nicole Good had to, or Renee Nicole Good had to die. And so did Alex Prattie. I mean, don't act like, oh, it could have been any of us. It would have never been me. Yeah, never been y'all. I'm not showing up and messing with an ice officer. Yeah. Even if I think they are doing something incorrect.

But to that point that that is what they want. The left wants people to think they want people to think that these were just innocent people walking through the streets doing their normal daily routine. And ICE decided that they were going to attack them and, you know, beat them down or what have you. And that's just not the case. Like people say it all the time on X. They're like, oh, you know, it could have been you. And it could have been.

And to your point, no, it couldn't have been me because I wouldn't go to an ICE protest at all. Yeah. I had a protester tell me last week this was out on Long Island. Island, they were having this handmade tale protest. And this woman told me that she believes that Renee Good was killed because she was white. That's, yeah, that's pretty standard. No, I didn't. Wasn't everybody saying like, oh, like the black people were coming around and go like,

look, white people now it's happening to you too. See? And like, yeah. They said that say her name was only for black women. Yeah. It's like, oh. Yeah. Okay.

So you all are just racist. Got it. I mean, look, the idea of racism is, is evolving significantly 10 years ago. There was there, well, more than 10 years ago now, probably 15 years ago. It became very invoked to say, oh, racism is not about color. It's power plus privilege. And that has that made its way through kind of society on the left.

And now there's a lot of people that are just like, well, I don't care what you call me. Because if you, it's just a means to shut me up or a means to try to de-legitimize what I'm saying. And I think that, you know, for better or for worse, that's the condition that it's going to, that's the situation in our society moving forward. It's changed the terminology that. Like, when people say to me, like, oh, you're racist, I'm like, yep, yep, I'm like, I'm like, I'm not, right? I'm like, I'm absolutely not, but like, I, I like want to lean into it just to be like, screw you. Like, I really get that feeling. Like, yet, like I said the other night, like, they're like, oh, Nazi or whatever. Like, I'm not,

I'm not absolute. My best friend's like a Jewish person. Like, I'm not a Nazi, but like, it makes me You want a Roman salute? Like, it angers me that much. I'm not saying that, like, I just want to lead. I just want to be whatever they hate because I hate them. That's the plan for the radical agenda. They want you to become the villain. They're telling you you are.

No problem. But then they, that's how they get a communist revolution. They want the government to become the fascists that they say they are so that they can then tell the community, hey, look, we were right. Come together. Let's overthrow this. And it's the same with individuals. If they can call you a Nazi enough times that you actually start hiling, then, like,

they got you. The left has caused words to lose meaning. Like if everything is racist, then nothing is racist. If everything is homophobic, then nothing is homophobic. It's like you just spew this nonsense over and over and over again. And then it's like, okay, well, if just everything's racist and some type of phobic, then whatever. It's like people are over it. Yeah.

That's where I'm at. That's a really great point. People that are consistently told that guy's racist, that guy's racist. And they're like, wait a minute. I know that guy or I've I've seen that guy interacting with with people and he's not that and when you hear that enough You're like well, I just can't believe when you call people racist you know I just I don't believe it that Your accusations no longer mean anything. It's like it's like calling Trump a Nazi right like Donald Trump is clearly not a national socialist right he is and Nazi is a very specific thing even if you're calling like if they were to just call

When they call people fascist, then you're like, all right, maybe you have some kind of reason to equate a person with a fascist because fascism is usually nationalist and authoritarian. And so, you know, maybe there's some kind of similarity. But Nazis are a very, very specific thing. They want Trump to get that living space with the German people. That's what it's all about, guys. It's whatever my iPhone tells me today. Right. That's literally what it is.

But, you know, the phrase Nazi, it's. It's just so watered down. And so people just, they hear it and it's like water off the duck's back. They don't care. There are real racists, too, which is the sad thing about all this conflation, is that if someone really kind of ignorantly thinks that, as I'm going to say, that people are different and people are different based on their racial histories. Superior.

Yeah. Any kind of superiority based on a genetic code is like, bro, you need to teach kids early that that's not necessarily like, you know, genetic homogeneity happens when you're like, You cross breed, you get the strengths from different genomes. And if people don't know that, it gets lost in a shuffle. It's kind of a tangent. That's kind of what it was like, you know, in the 90s and early odds. Like the idea of being a racist was so foreign to most people. You know, I'm an old guy now.

And like when I was growing up, like nobody cared what your, what color your skin was. And you did like, it was not an issue. There was very rare. Rarely did you hear hear people throw around the term racist because in the 90s and early aughts people were just like, yeah, that's kind of old. That's kind of old boomer stuff, you know, or like maybe, maybe my grandfather made some kind of remarks that were like, you know, but KKK. Yeah, you know.

Racism was back then. And so it was literally, it was largely, it was largely, you know, considered a thing of the past, you know, and then with the advent of the way that the left has been behaving where they again changed the meaning of the phrase racist and said oh everybody's racist if you're white you're racist and and they've really tried to awaken a racial a critical racial consciousness and they say that kind of stuff all the time they want people to consider themselves a race and they want people to focus on that to the detriment of our society right like it we are not a better society if people are like no i'm going to make sure that i i i'm going to make sure that i i

I'm focusing on my people as opposed to focusing on the United States as a whole, right? Like if you're if you're like, if you're like, hey, I think that everyone in the country deserves the same opportunities and the same rights and to be treated the same, that's generally what it used to be like. But that's not what people want nowadays because because of the way that the left's kind of ingrained. I think if there's something special though about like, okay, so I, I am like a mix of different things, right?

Irish, English, Polish, and a region, right? But my husband's Greek. And me and my parents even talk about this now, like... Hey, we're going to jump to Tim on Jesse Waters right now, so you're actually going to start talking. Tim will be back on later on by the way. Yeah, he's coming back. Now it seems to be a bit better. Trump did pull back, and I think Holman did state that the reason he's here is not because

things have been going fairly well. But hopefully now there's going to be some negotiations where things can calm down. I think the terrifying thing about Minnesota, this is. situation with Predi, the situation with Renee Good, is that we're looking at a leftist space in this country that are being radicalized. They're being told that ICE are Nazis, they're Gestapo, they're kidnapping children when none of this is true. It's all exaggerated, and it's resulting in panic. It's resulting in people like Preddy who otherwise seemed like a good dude. I know a lot of people, they're polarized on this. They want to say either he was deranged or

whatever. I mean, look, the guy was a nurse. He worked for the VA. I don't think he was an evil guy, but he's radicalized. He shows up. He's spitting on cops. He's kicking their car, instigating these fights, and it results in these unfortunate circumstances. I don't think anybody wanted to see happen. So it does seem like it's good that Trump is sending in Homan, Homan's toning things down a bit. My concern is that there's a bloodlust that's not going to be satisfied. When Homan comes in and Trump talks with Waltz, protesters went to Tim Walts's office angry that he's. he would even negotiate. So how we get the temperature down in this country without any kind of serious escalation? I honestly don't know. Even Tim Walts asked the question today, is this Fort Sumter?

And I certainly hope it's not. Yeah, no, you're right, because there's a certain faction of the left that wants the violence. Doesn't matter if it's about the Palestinians or about ICE or about the no kings. They want action and they want it in the streets and they want to be heroes. And you're always going to have that no matter what happens. Don't you think the media, though, has a little bit more responsibility in situations like this to calm things down. The politicians, they're running for re-election, but the press, they're just lying. It's a purposeful disinformation campaign, whether it's airbrushing these martyrs or just not even saying what these people are really doing. This video went viral yesterday, that one that you showed, where Prattie is kicking the

taillight out of this vehicle, and immediately these networks sprang into action claiming this was an AI video, totally fabricated arguments, trying to do that. to downplay that this guy actually was a violent guy. That doesn't mean he deserved anything, but I think the context here matters. And we did see some, I would say, middle of the road people kind of walk back. They thought this was just some legal observer. Well, he was a bit of a radical. But when you look at how MS now runs that airbrushed photo, it's seemingly this addiction

to driving the narrative either for ratings or ideology, and it's making people go nuts. Yeah, it's like when you have some guy in a violent situation with cops, they always put the guys like middle school graduation picture on the screen from four years ago. It's, you know, it's just dishonest. I think we're starting to see through it because of your outlet, the internet, Fox and everything, people aren't as brainwashed as they used to be, but some of them are. And it's a real problem. Tim, good to see you. Thanks for having me. Nick Shirley back in Somaliland. Jesse. Yeah, Nick.

Jesse, hey, Nick Shirley. What's up, homie? Jesse hit it on the head with, it really is up to the media to tone it down. But the media is part of the problem because they are part of the basically the Democrat establishment. Well, we're this media. You know, we're in the media now. Well, I mean, yes, fair enough.

It is to a lesser degree, you know, our responsibility to do what we can to push back. But the point that I'm making is, you know, we were talking a little bit about the signal chat and how the government of Minnesota is involved in it. Or at least people in the government of Minnesota were involved in the signal chat. And so the media is just the information arm. That's why they did things like make pretty or pretty look like he's a, you know, he darkened his skin. They made him look a little filled out. That's why they, that's why they made Joe Rogan. looked like, that's what they made Joe Rogan look like he was

kind of sickly when he was talking on that. You know, they do what they can to kind of shape the narrative. That's their goal. Phil. Didn't you see the guy from Breaking Bad like literally today calling for revolution? Right? He was literally calling for revolution. You have

I hear Tim Pool behind me. A wild Tim Pool enters the chat. Oh, you've got to see this guy. The guy from Breaking Bad is literally up there. Yeah, okay. Well, he's out there literally calling for revolution you had that Molly Ringwald who is a ginger and hasn't been relevant in like god knows how long she's calling for mass execution yeah she's calling for mass execution there was another guy again that was saying something oh the DA Larry Krasner was literally saying we're going to hunt down the Nazis and um identify them

I mean it's not like it's the media it's the the people who are front and center in society that are begging they want the civil war they want to listen to what this guy has to say a lot of times it's In addition to that, the media that amplifies their message, even like trying to counter their narratives, sometimes just putting them on TV and saying, look how bad they are, is showing 30 million people the idiot and then they go to sleep and they think about the idiot they heard earlier and they remember what he said. The people in the in the entertainment world that are making these comments, they're making these comments because they feel like it's acceptable because people in the media have been making these comments and because people in Washington have been. And they're not going to be involved. they're going to take off on their private plane and go to Bora Bora while it's all happening. And then they're here to have like whatever's left over. I don't know if you guys played the-

We watched it. We did watch it. That's why we're talking about this. So I don't know if they want me to say this, but I'm going to say it anyway because I assume if at any point in the future I get like any kind of network deal, I won't be able to say stuff like this. But they were very much concerned about rhetorical escalation in this conflict. I'm saying this because I deeply respect what they said when they reached out.

They were, the producers were concerned that the language is getting too extreme. Not anything but I'm just trying to paraphrase here. There are people online saying, good, they're glad Pretti's dead and Renee Good and all the stuff. And they're like, we, we don't not want this. And I'm like, neither do I. And so my view is very much, you know, in any normal circumstance, Prattie would just be some goofy liberal in a hospital. and you'd roll your eyes at his goofy liberal thing, and that'd be the end of it. But what we're seeing with this radicalization with statements like this,

it's driving people to an extreme position where they go out, getting into fights, thinking they're fighting this imaginary shadow demon, and it creates what I described as an unfortunate series of events. I don't think any of those agents went out there with the intention to murder anybody or kill anybody. I don't think he went out there with the intention to murder anybody. But I'm going to say this, because I try to be light when I go on Jesse's show, that man absolutely knew what he was doing could result in his death.

I don't think he deserved to die or anything like that. But I said it yesterday, I said it this morning. With the killing of Renee Good, he knew full well that these agents are on edge. They are willing to use lethal force. And on more than one occasion, he showed up, showed up armed to commit felonies. And I think he knew the circumstances he was creating. I do. So again, I try to be, I try to be light, you know.

Because there is a, you know what Jesse asked me on the show. You guys probably heard they said, there's a media of responsibility. That's what I'm talking about. That was the first thing I said when you guys wrapped. And that was exactly what the producers were basically saying to me is like, I don't want to put words in their mouth, but they were just,

we're concerned that the language around this is pushing people to extreme ends. I'm like, agreed. That's just looking for you to be responsible. Like when it comes to the way that you phrase things, they're just like, look, you know, and it makes perfect sense because the left doesn't do it. Well, I guess my point is I would say, the simplest way, Fox is concerned that, and good, I can't speak for MS now or any of those other outlets,

because I don't know, but Fox is genuinely concerned that the rhetoric is pushing people to extreme ends, even on the right. And I agree. And look, it's permission. I said this this morning, that they're, all of the prominent conservative personalities, people on the right, have, none of them have celebrated Renee Good's death or said she deserved it or anything like that, or Prattie. They've been very critical of the actions these people chose. to take. They've simultaneously criticized the left for celebrating death of Charlie Kirk. But at the same time, prominent liberal personalities also denounced the death of Charlie Kirk, to a great degree, not completely. The issue is it's the run of the mill left. And I always argue it's a tendency

on the, it's a general in the left with a tendency on the right. That is, when you look at the basic people who are commenting on liberal podcasts, posting TikToks, they're celebrating Charlie's death. When you look at the right, they're not. So it's an inverse proportionality, like 30% of the right is going out and celebrating all this. 70% of the left is going out and celebrating it. The people on the right who are prominent and the people on left who are prominent largely are trying to dance around the issue. And there's two big reasons. One, I think as much as we want to criticize many of the liberals, they do try to keep things at a certain level, not all of them. And the right certainly does want to because there's a moral, I don't say this in a derisive way, but a moral superiority of like,

we believe killing is wrong. We do not want the conflict. But that being said, the left sees these portion of the right celebrating the death of these people, mocking them, making jokes. And it's creating a, I don't know, a tit for tat that's not going to be quelled. I certainly think prominent liberal personalities are feeding into this, calling them Nazis and pushing these lies and manipulations and MS now photoshopping the guy's face. But I don't know that there's any good answer because it doesn't matter.

You know, it's the 1% rule. The issue at play is going to be the masses on both sides. If they get critical enough to want to kill each other, then it's going to happen regardless of what we want or what we say. And we come to a point where, you know, I'll say something like, this guy does not deserve this. No one should be killed. And I'll get a blasted comments and replies being like, you're wrong, Tim.

You know, it's too late, things like that. that's that's what's deeply worrying to me in all of this and i and i and i'll say this too like there's a reason i'm associated with the right and it's because i largely agree with the veterans when they come on this show and they say you do not want this yeah you do not know how it's bad it's going to get and then you've got these leftist larpers that are just like is it time like uh this breaking bad guy let's do this let's let's jump to this story from fox news breaking bad star calls for revolution after federal agent shooting in Minneapolis, actor Giancarlo Esposito tells Variety

that very rich old white men are exerting their power to suppress our own people after weekend shooting. I want to add to this that Molly Ringwald said that the people who supported ICE will be treated as traitors and collaborators, just like in World War II. And if you don't know what that means, it means you're going to be executed.

I'm not trying to be cute. I'm not trying to exaggerate. Look it up. In France, after the war, they went around hunting down people that collaborated and executed them. Not everybody, but I think it was around 7,000 people were executed. Many others fled. So when the Nazis came in, if you were a politician or a business owner and you were giving them food, they remembered you. And that's what she's threatening you with mass executions. It's not a joke. Let me play this clip. You can hear what the guy said for yourself and

then, yeah. This is time for a revolution. It's time for it. And they don't even know that's what they're You know, some very rich old white men are exerting their power to suppress our own people, thus creating a feeling of civil war in the streets, preparing the hate, the haters to hate, teaching them how to shoot, they're not even trained right, to kill. This man, and I tell you what is the most important component of this is not that a celebrity is calling for revolution. it's that you can see it in his eyes. He doesn't know what this will mean.

He doesn't know what this will mean. The horrors you will experience are beyond your comprehension. Go talk to any real combat veteran. Go talk to one of these guys doing wetworks in foreign countries and talk to them about what happens when the system falls apart. Talk to them about in Egypt. When the military decided they could not keep a hand on the Muslim Brotherhood, so they showed up with AKs and started mowing people down,

just killing them in the street. This guy doesn't understand. He'll be sitting in Santa Monica, sipping his coffee, saying, I think the rich white, boom! And then half his face is blown off and he's sitting there shaking. Can't hear anything with blood dripping from his mouth. That's exactly how his character in Breaking Bad, got it. Spoiler alert. Right.

You know, and what he was saying, at least from my perspective, some of his diagnosis is correct or he's on the right track in that there are groups of older, I don't know if they're old white men, whatever. There's groups of, I think, consider them bankers that are, structuring our economy for collapse and anticipating street fighting in the United States, and they're happy for it because they don't like free speech and gun rights and property rights. They want a socialistic corporatocracy, and they want us to be corporate slaves. That's what corporate governance is. That's what EG is. So he's kind of right about that, I think, but the whole blaming the U.S. government and ICE is not,

I think that's where he's missing it. I think that's where he's missing the guys. I just, with this stuff, what? What does it matter? The world view of these people is not going to change and you're not going to convince them. You're not going to sit down for a cup of coffee and explain to Jean-Carlo Esposito why you don't want war because he doesn't know. If this guy knew, he would not be calling for it and he's not going to believe you.

The only thing that would ever change these people's minds is actual experience. But how do you give someone experience of what it's like to be in a war? These people live in a made-up fairy tale world where everything is just movies and social media and TikTok and when you call for revolution, it's so interesting because the left always wants to call for violence, right? But after Charlie Kirk was brutally murdered, we called for a revival, not a revolution. We were not trying to fight against the people who were celebrating the death of Charlie Kirk. We wanted to bring more people to Christ. And that's what turning point tried to do. And it's just so interesting. I mean, did these people really want to live through a war?

They don't know what a war is. Look at what Larry Krasner said, though. He's a, he's a DA in Philly, literally saying we're going to hunt them down like ice agents, like Nazis, and identify them. That's why I said it's permission. They want this to happen. Yeah, people in positions of authority saying that kind of stuff give permission to people that are not in positions of authority. They want this to happen. We've gone back and forth, Phil and I quite a bit on there is no off ramp.

Right. And we are in a substantially worse position now than we were six months ago and six months before that. Is there any indication this is slowing down or is not going to escalate? No, and we've been saying this for three years. Like within the first six months of me coming on the show, we started talking about that. Phil sat down. The first day he was hearing, he went Civil War. And I was like, Phil, slow down there.

We don't say that on this show. No, but we did. It was in like, what, 20, 23 or whatever. We're like, you know, where's the off ramp? But how do we stop this? Because things are only going to keep up. That doesn't mean that there isn't one, though, because not being able to see it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Well, the off-ramp, I'd imagine, it includes, the way we often describe it is, you know what, let's do this, let's do this.

We had Tony on the show, Tony Ortiz. And he said he's in the nothing ever happens camp. My argument to him is that the people who think nothing ever happens have a fictionalized or condensed view of what history really is. You read a history book. You'll read a single page explaining the entirety of World War II certainly overlooks the nuances of every year. with the conflict or the American Revolution for that matter. People, like, I assure you, first and foremost, if you go to Times Square and ask someone, when was the declaration of independent side signed, they're going to be like, what's that? The next step you're going to get is people who say

July 4th, 1776. And then only the smallest amount of people are going to say July 2nd, 1776, because they actually read it. And then you're going to ask people, when did the American Revolution start? And they're going to say 1776. First people are going to say, I don't know. Then you're going to get the 1776, then you're going to people say, well, we don't have a set year, but it was likely around late 1760s, in fact, into the 1770s. One out of a million people would say that. Exactly. Or they'll say the Battle of Lexington and Concord in 1775, a full year before the declaration

was signed. They don't actually know. And my point here is, we are in the think of it today. The American Revolutionary period was 20 years, and they were in the thick of it and didn't know what was going to happen and didn't think it was a way. war immediately and we talk about the american civil war these people it you know that when they say things like nothing ever happens they don't realize that it was always going to be grains of sand making a heap or snowflakes in an avalanche and so when you know these people say things like

they want a revolution that's when i'm looking at the market i'm looking at the ticker being like how do you reverse course on this in which case ultimately that point is The off ramp for the frogs in the pot is cranking the temperature up 10 degrees instantly. Because the argument is these people who think nothing is happening are frogs sitting in a pot and the temperature is slowly rising so they don't notice. I would argue it like this. If the temperature of the water is 70 degrees and it rises to 80, did something happen? The answer is, yeah, the water's actually gone from lukewarm.

It's actually kind of warm now. It goes from 70 to 90 did something happen? Yeah, you're getting pretty hot water. If it goes from 70 to 100, certainly something happened. The problem is they're not calculating. It was 70 yesterday. It's 100 now. The people who think nothing ever happens are saying, what do you mean?

The temperature was 89 degrees last week. It's only 90 now. Nothing ever happens. So how do you shock these people and wake them up? You crank the flame all over the top. So it goes from 89 degrees to 120 and they go, holy crap, and they jump out. And my point is shock and awe is likely the only thing to stop this, which is, why I said the other day, Trump needs to stand down or suit up. You can't do half measures.

I like the statement. That is a cool statement. But that's the accelerationist take on things, which has some value, which is why people think of themselves as accelerationist. It's like, technically. You could also shake the pot without turning the temperature up. And that will, that's the same point. That's shocking off. Yeah, that will wake them up without having to turn the temperature up. It'll feel hotter because now there's friction. Well, regardless. That's the creative point. That's where like science is in arts. It shakes up the pot. But we aren't agreement. The point is, shock them. The people who are in the pot, if you move it gently from side to side, they're going to be like nothing's happening. If you jolt it, they're going to say

earthquake and jump out. If you crank the temperature up, they're going to say, ah, it's all of a sudden very hot. They're going to jump out. It's the half measures that are inching us towards catastrophe. Now, that's why I said again, Trump needs to stand down or suit up. He needs to insurrection act, go into these places, send the National Guard out, say we're coming to, like we're taking over domestic law enforcement to stop the extremism because you need to wake people up to what's going on. There's no guarantee that works. So then the other option is stop playing into leftist adjut prop and giving them the photo ops they're asking for with these half measures. Yeah, in fact, I'd like to see them turn the temperature down by actually highlighting that they're releasing

some of the nonviolent criminals if it's actually happening. That doesn't turn the temperature down. That increases it. You don't. People on the right are going to boil if you release these people. That's right. The reason the temperature is going up is not because there's a collective effort to where people are agreeing on the left and right. Hey, you want to make things worse? It's that the left, when Tim Walts calls Trump on the phone and says, let's negotiate. The left protested him.

What about peace through strength? That's what I'm saying. Shocking down. What about going in there full force with everybody you got making a big scene and be scared? Agreed. Terrified. That's where I want to be. That's what I'm saying.

Trump, insurrection act. If it's going to work over there, it can work domestically. I'm saying you need people to realize. You need, first of all, Trump needs to assert the monopoly on violence and say enough of this. You know, I rag on the libertarians because I don't understand what the benefit is to what's going on. Let this conflict just boil over and keep happening. It's bootlicking to want the riots to stop, to want the windows to stop being smashed, people to stop being killed. This is my beef of the libertarians right now.

A guy died. Pretti's dead. It shouldn't happen. I believe he was radicalized. I believe he knew the consequences. And he went out there and more people are going to do it. We can stop it right now. I tweeted, Trump should go to Minneapolis and all of this stops.

And you know, it's hard to convey this over a tweet or an ex post because people are like, what's Trump going to do? When the president goes to a city, the city goes on lockdown. It's in effect an insurrection act. If Trump invokes the insurrection act, he is making a declaration and saying, taking over law enforcement, that could be too hot. That could turn things up. Maybe it turns up enough to shock people and make people back away. There's another play. Trump announces he will be visiting Minneapolis so that he can work with the governor and bring the temperature down.

Secret service, National Guard, federal police, lock the whole city down and all of a sudden there's no riots anymore. It pushes out. You create security checkpoints, security zones, and simply by being there, Trump isn't saying, I'm crushing you. He's just literally crushing them and not giving them a narrative option. If Trump invokes the Insurrection Act, the fear is they'll say, this proves as a fascist. If Trump says, I want to help Minnesota and calm things down, so I'll be visiting, then they effectively lock the city down. And there's no escalation tactic. That's an excellent tactic.

That's what his advisors should be telling him in the boardroom right now. Probably they're watching this show and they're going to tell them. The only downside is now you set it publicly. so people will hear that, but they don't, won't matter. So good job. That's what I say. And it shows tremendous strength from Trump. And he can do diplomacy while he's there legitimately.

Trump can say, I am going to come down personally to try and help the community and bring the temperature down. Trump could even say, I am deeply troubled by the death of Alex Prattie and Renee Good. These things should not happen. I am going to personally come to work with the mayor and the governor to make sure this stuff. stops and simply by showing up, they lock the city down. Yeah, I think that's that's actually. And it's a personal. Listen, it makes Trump look strong. Lisa doesn't like it. She wants the boot.

No, no, I think that all that does is say, oh, whenever you throw a violent temper tantrum, you get your way and then it's going to encourage everybody to do that. How are they getting their way? Trump says I'm putting a boot down. He's not put a boot down. He's going in there and saying, you just said to say that, you know, the pretty thing was terrible or whatever. Like, no, you can't give them.

You can't even get them. They're going to be mad either way. Yeah. Sure they are. But you can't give them a win at all. You stop the adjut prop overnight. You shut down their tactic. But you do you already said all that.

He already said that. And we're pulling people out now. The Homan says we're pulling people out. And yeah, that's all bad. Yeah, that's horrible. Like that's conceding. Pulling the temperature down is good. I'll say that.

Holman is Tony the temperature down. He's trying to say like, you know, it shouldn't happen. We don't anybody to die. I can respect that Trump should do it personally. It's not an issue. The point is if Trump invokes the Insurrection Act, they're going to fundraise a million dollars off of it. If Trump shows up, there's nothing to fundraise off of.

Show up with what, though? Just show up. No, I mean, he's not going to go to buy himself. They're going to create checkpoints. Secret service and National Guard will be everywhere, and they can't say he's a fascist for doing it because it's literally just standard procedure and he's not invoking anything.

And that's the kind of stuff that the military does. Like, what the military wants to take a location, they just go in with overwhelming force and then they just sit there. it by himself, not overwhelming force. I want to go by himself. When the president goes somewhere, they announce. You're talking.

But no, I'm not talking about it like a secret service. I'm talking about when you say overwhelming force, I want like every trained ice officer who's trained on removals to be in there and get it outside of once. And that's a potentiality, which I said is insurrection act. The concern with that is the possibility of blowback. No, you don't have to do the insurrection act to do it. You just have to take all the ICE agents and ramp up the deportations. There's not enough ICE agents.

I mean, take the ones that are doing all the stuff in Florida and Texas. You could halt them for now. You want to shut down the functional, the ice operations that are working? Yeah, because if you go in and you swarm, you get it done real quick, get everybody out of there soon as possible. You go to the places that aren't bothering you. No, no, I think that's a half measure and that's the problem. Trump surged 2,000 additional feds into Minnesota and it made things worse. It's either insurrection act.

You go all the way or you do nothing. And the point I'm making about Trump just going there is that it locks the same. down, it shuts down their adjut prop. They have no opportunity for propaganda. They have no opportunity for fundraising. They can't call Trump a fascist. Trump just says, what do you mean? I just, I came to try and help the mayor.

And there's no Trump beat anybody. There's no opportunity for them to do it. It cuts their, it cuts them off at the shin. The president doesn't need a reason to visit a city. It's not like the president needs to clear. I'm not opposed to him going there. I just want, I don't want to give them an inch. I don't want to,

I don't even want to take the rhetoric down to like, we did anything wrong. But you got to be careful not to be Wiley E. Coyote running off the cliff. Why do we have to behave when they don't play by the way? I'm not saying behave. I'm saying stop buying into their adjiprop. It's not about the adjo prop. They want the half measure.

They want the half measure. Don't do a half measure. I don't want to do a half measure. I want the whole. Insurrection act. Yeah, I guess, sure. Yeah, Trump needs to assume control of local law enforcement. put national regard on every street corner and say no more rioting.

Yes, that's what I would like. The concern there is. And we will do this in every city if we have to, if you keep behaving this way. Indeed, you can't, though. That's the problem. There's not enough people. We should go back to requiring young men to serve. Well, that doesn't work because they get angry, but there's, what, 30,000 feds?

So how do you occupy every single city? You can't. So Trump's got a funny amount of pieces on the board. And clearly, the surging 2,000 additional feds did not work. So there's a few options. And Trump took the half measure approach once again, which I think is going to be a net negative. But let's do this. In this conversation of civil war, we have this from Kalshi.

Donald Trump out as president. Take a look at this. There's actually before 2028, 33% probability. Before 2027, 15%. Now, I'm going to go ahead and say this. To me, it feels like free money. Trump's not going to be out as president before January 20th, 20, 20, and they're giving a 36% probability. But it's actually pretty dang crazy that all of your choices are that Trump is going to be removed from office early.

And that you've got $1.8 million wagered on this that 15% of those of the people here believe, or I shouldn't say 50%, I don't have the actual ratio for the money. But these people believe there's a 15% chance. Trump is removed from office this year. You know how risk-averse I am and how much I don't like anyone. That's about it. I would take. I might just go bet on that when I get home. You've got people that think so are all the people that think that the Senate's going to flip too.

Well, what I find interesting about this is that the prediction markets are rarely wrong. The problem with this is you've got, you know, 64% that he will not be removed before January 20th. But when you add it all up, there's a decent probability in this that they think Trump is going to be removed. And you know what? I do believe there's at least a double digit possibility Trump doesn't finish out his term. First and foremost, let's consider the fact that he's almost 80 years old. With all due respect to Mr. President, he is at life expectancy. I'm assuming that we'll play into their payout.

How are they defining removed? Right. If Donald Trump leaves office before January 20th, then the market resolves to yes, sources from New York Times, AP, Reuters, Actors, Political, Some Before the Information, Washington Post, Wall Street Journal, ABC, CBS, CNN, Fox News, and MSNBC. If he leaves solely because they have died, the associated market will resolve and the exchange will determine the payouts to the holders of long and short positions based upon the last traded price prior to death.

So I'm not suggesting he's going to die, but I do believe that the zealotry we've seen in Minnesota. You've got Democrats. It's not just Tim Walt saying is his fort sumter. We saw, I forget who was that Jesse Waters had pulled up saying it's a revolution. It's civil war. You've got celebrities saying it's civil war or calling for revolution. You've got celebrities calling for the mass execution of prominent conservative personalities. All of that lends itself to a just probability that they will at least try. Well, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. There is a 100% probability. They will try to remove Trump. as president, there's a decent probability, although very, very, very small, they succeed.

Yeah. I mean, I don't see it happening. If the Senate flips, then I think that the actual chances like will skyrocket, to be honest with you, but I don't see that happening. Trump being removed? The Senate flipping. I pay so much attention to the chat. I don't know if there, if Kalshi has a civil war.

that would be interesting how would you define it? It's such a vague term civil war. I love reading the chat. I even go back after the show and read all of them. She reads all of them.

Every single one. I used to. I'm such a nut. Sometimes I would go hard sometimes. Yeah, I don't think they have a probability of civil war and then like the question is

how do you determine when a civil war happens? Because again, that's what Tim Walts is asking. Is this Fort Sumter? There's no such thing as a declared civil war. It's never, it's never happened.

Well, when they took Jefferson Davis and was like... When they took Jefferson, you mean Potomax? You know, I'm like, you know, taking command, I guess, or like... Lisa, do you watch the show? I don't know. Did Lincoln... They did not call it a civil war for two years into the Civil War. It was half over.

And they were like... But you know that they were like... There were two separate armies. But that's not what a Civil War is. That's kind of a misnomer calling the American Civil War civil war. This is something I'd learned a few weeks ago. that if you watched the show, you've known this years ago. Scott Horton, yeah, yeah.

That it was like two countries split into two, it was a country split into two different countries and then they fought a conventional war. Not a real civil war where dudes are up in next door in the third floor with the cyber rifle waiting. It was actually a war for independence. The Confederate states were trying to break away from the union not to control D.C.

They wanted their own country. Not a civil war. They lost the distinction between the American Civil War. That's why it's like American cheese, right? It's not really cheese, but we call it that in the American Civil War. I explained this this morning because I'm seeing all these leftovers being like, well, during the American Revolution, we fought tyranny with guns. Are you saying the Revolution?

The founding fathers had no say. There was no opportunity in Parliament for representation. And they tried four years to petition. And then they asked the king to intervene and he wouldn't. And they said, if we don't have a say on how we are governed, we're not even effect. We're just being oppressed. So you know what? We'll do it ourselves.

In the American Civil War, again, like American cheese civil war, the Confederate said, we will have a say and we shall vote. And then they lost. And they went, well, then I'm leaving. And then the union was like, nah, no, no, no, no, no, no. You had your say, we voted on it and you lost. And now you're trying to break apart the union and leave because you're mad about the results of an election.

We all agreed to be a part of when we founded this country. That's the distinction. So right now with Minnesota, with Tim Walts and his Wackleung Goon squad, they had their vote. And if they won and Democrats took Congress, they'd be trampling all over us, calling it democracy. And now, just like the Democrats in 1861, the Democrats now are bitching and moaning because they lost an election. And they're trying to violate our democratic institutions and our rights because they can't handle being, How about we just have calls to say American war on a war on American soil between its own constituents instead of a civil war?

So typically what we see what's happening right now in the U.S. is actually more akin to a traditional civil war than the American civil war. There could be just two factions, but they are actually fighting for fighting for control of one government. Right. So I actually think, again, I've said it before. I'll say it again. Should we actually find open conflict with paramilitaries with rifles shooting at federal

agents, historians will claim the second U.S. Civil War began years before now, maybe even 2020. When the president claimed the election was stolen, which resulted in January 6th, and then history will be condensed. And they'll say, over the next several years, there was fighting and riots, which culminated in the formation of paramilitary groups. and huge influx of mass illegal immigration. The border was opened up.

Boom. They'll say in response to the defeat of Trump, Democrats, it depends on who wins, to be honest. But I'm imagining a 12-year-old with this virtual reality, you know, neural link in 100 years. And they're saying the Civil War began in 2021 with January 6th. Yeah, January 6th was the Fort Sumter. If you want to force us to act like this is like the Civil War of 1860s somehow.

It's January 6th. It's genuinely crazy to me that Abraham Lincoln actually dispatched troops to southern states, and they were shooting at each other. Armies and the people of America were like, it's not a Civil War. And they put him on the $5 bill like he's a hero. Like this is the guy that...

Abraham Lincoln? Yeah. What are you mean? Well, he's on their $5 bill now. Right. They posthumously made this guy a superhero. But he is a hero. Well, he federalized the states.

He made centralized power. And he was like taking away people's habeas corpus. He was sending his troops to other states. And still, we look at him as a hero. Indeed. Which is crazy because he was like one of the most authoritarian presidents, they didn't put Woodrow Wilson on the dollar bill. Welcome to war.

If it's pretty close. Welcome to war. I know. I know. And he's on Mount Rushmore. Like, he's a hero. Yes. And he was aggressive.

And I think I like in Trump to Buchanan and y'all can be bad at me all day. But Buchanan tried placating the Democrats. He cut deals. He did not bring the boot down. And after he leaves, the moment Abraham Lincoln is declared the winner well before he's even inaugurated because at the time, it was March, not January. So they have the election in November. There are several months in between.

Seven states seceded. Abraham Lincoln's not even president yet, and they left. Then he gets in and he says, I'm bringing the boot down day one. The thing about now, if we're bringing the boot down, argument here is that it won't work in this situation because this is genuine civil war potential. Whereas if it was two countries fighting like the north and the south, yeah, send the boot down, go after them.

That's a foreign country for now. Right now, increasing the boot, the pressure. I feel like the America's built to resist that. If the federal government goes authoritarian, our country is built to destroy that. Abraham Lincoln arrested Confederate sympathizers in the Maryland state legislature. But that was a situation where it was two countries. It was like a border conflict. Not initially.

When he first came in office, the perspective of the union was largely that there was still one country. It's just that the southern states were ignoring federal law. That's why they did not call it a civil war and didn't believe was happening. Abraham Lincoln says, I'm going to arrest state representatives and did and threatened to arrest a sitting Supreme Court justice and he suspended habeas corpus. And we put him on a mountain. The point is this. History is written by the victors.

The decisive, the strong, they survive. If Trump right now said, actually, let me put it like this. When Abraham Lincoln was like sitting in his chair rocking back and forth and he goes, I'm sending to the troops. four more states went, holy crap, and they succeeded and joined the Confederacy. There were seven initial states, and after Lincoln said, I'm sending troops in and shutting you down, you are in the union. Four other states flipped.

Virginia, for instance, was not in the Confederacy. They were two to one in support of the union until after Abraham Lincoln said, I'm going to send in the troops. Then their state legislature said, holy crap, this dude's going nuts. We're out. And I can remember it was North Carolina. it was Virginia's Tennessee, I think. I forget the fourth one. Texas joined the Confederacy largely because of geography.

They were like, we're not connected to the union. What do we do? I guess we're Confederates. My point is, if Donald Trump right now said, I am suspending habeas corpus on the transport lines, on the highways and the railways, where we are dispatching the Marines under the Insurrection Act to quell this rebellion,

and he wins, they put his face on a mountain. right now people will be shocked they'll be scared they'll be like oh my god what is trump doing but should he win just like abraham lincoln they'll say the greatest president of all time or someone will scream six emperor tyrannists but you understand why he why lincoln is on the memorials and stuff right like on the five dollar bill it's because according to the you know he quote unquote saved the country right that was the whole point that's why he celebrated as as a great president like if he had done all all those things and the South had won the war, he would not be looked at as some kind of hero.

Yeah, he'd be looked at as a great loser. They probably wouldn't even talk about him. He'd be like Jefferson Davis, like no one. Nobody talks about Buchanan except the bad mouth of him. And it's because he was just trying to negotiate. He was trying to placate. And that's what you get. Yeah.

And the funny thing is you can say the same of the South. This is contested, but it's largely, well, I'll say this. It's contested. But many people do believe that if the Confederacy marched on D.C. after the first battle of Bull Run, the war would have been over, and there'd be two countries right now. But the South was like,

we just want to be left alone. And so they pushed back the Union troops at the first Battle of Bull Run, and then Lincoln was like, rally troops were going and crushing them. And then they lost. Yeah. Some people argue that they were,

they were too weakened, despite winning, to actually have taken D.C., but I think this. Do you think we're in active civil war? And what would your call she a prediction look like? I have no idea. What I will say is because of the advancements in war, you know, we were talking about fallout

the other day. The one thing I'll criticize the fallout franchise on is what is meant to be this profound statement, but is one of the dumbest things ever. Ron Perlman, fan, by the way, I appreciate the Vio says war. War never changes. And I'm like, hey, we talk about changes all the time. The Genghis Khan put a guy on a horse with a bow and arrow and they conquered all of Asia. Before they were just tackling each other with clubs.

Then some, before that, some dude took a piece of a horse's tail and tied a rock to it, spun it around, and threw it, hit a guy in the head. War changes all the time. Chemical warfare. Yeah. Corolla warfare. Exactly. The point is, I get the philosophical, like the conflict. But I will say this too, of that line whenever changes.

We are in psychological warfare zone. That's why the left plays the game of adjutop. It's why they play that I'm not touching you. I'm not touching you. Because they're trying to exploit our social norms. Here's what the left's goal is. They say, hey, film. Film me only after.

Don't film the part where I punch Ian, film the aftermath. Then I'll walk up to Ian, hit him in the gut. Then I'll back up going, please, please don't hurt me. And then he films and you start swinging at me. And then we post a video saying, Ian went nuts and attacked me for no reason. That's the left's playbook right now. They're not trying to win a war by storming in with guns,

capturing people and occupying a building. They're trying to trick as many people as people, possible into believing that they are the benevolent benefactors of the oppressor. It's literally adjupros. Yeah. But then they also have like just the useful idiots like the people that punch Savannah. They just have low impulse control and they, they can't handle what they're hearing because, you know, they've never had to deal with anything in their entire lives.

They've been coddled and whatever. And they know there'll be no consequences or very little, you know, when the DA drops the case because it doesn't fit their political agenda. So there's just, you know, you get a slap on the wrist, and that's pretty much it. Let's pull this story up from ABC News. Man allegedly tried to break Luigi Mangione out of jail by impersonating an FBI agent. And where was this man from? Minnesota.

A Minnesota man allegedly tried to break out Mangione impersonating FBI agent. Mark Anderson, 36, was charged on Thursday with impersonating a federal agent as he allegedly tried to sneak Manjani 27 out of the Metropolitan. and detention center in Brooklyn. Sources told ABC News, the ill-fitted escape attempt saw Anderson approach and intake area inside the jail to get close to the accused healthcare CEO assassin. Anderson allegedly lied to officials by claiming he had paperwork signed by a judge authorizing the release of Manchione, which is just the stupidest thing.

Bro, transfer, come on. But to go and be like, they're letting them go. The guards are going to be like, yeah, sure. This is like one of the most high-profile inmates we got. If he said they're transferring them out, don't ask me, I'm not the boss. I just do what the boss tells me. Then you might have gotten away with it. You would need an official looking vehicle.

I mean, the scary thing is this actually could have worked if the guy wasn't a retard. The criminal complaint against Anderson does not name Mangone as the target of the alleged breakout attempt. But sources at the murder suspect was the focus of the plot. The scheme reportedly fell apart when Bureau of Prison staff asked to see Anderson's credentials, which led him to show his Minnesota driver's license and throw numerous documents at the personnel. Can I see your documents? Flood the zone. Pockets and see what this person look like, don't you?

Yes. Yeah, I want to know how crazy this person looks. I think they're a non-bidey. Oh, look, they have his picture. Good. He had a pizza cutter and a fork. Oh, my God. What you do with a pizza cutter?

Now, look, I'm not, this doesn't look. I've never seen a pizza cutter. They're not even sharp. Put a sock in a cue ball. A cue ball and a stuff is all the day. Hey, Lisa. I'm just saying. I didn't say what it was.

I'm just saying, like, if you're going to, you know. No. Stop giving advice to lunatic. I'm not trying to give advice. Okay. I'm sorry. Ahead of his trial, Mentioner's lawyers have attempted

to bar key piece of evidence against him. Manjury allegedly shot Thompson. We know this. But Minnesota's turning into a hotbed for revolutionary and rebellious activity. Again, Trump needs to stop playing footsie with these people. Yeah. He needs to actually do something.

Can we just give Minnesota to Canada? No. Why? They don't want... It's beachfront invasion zone. You can't cede it to the enemy. Why don't we just build a big wall around the whole thing and then just turn the whole place into like our Australia? How much would that cost?

Who cares? I'll pay. I'm down. Put a one. No, no, no. Put a 20 in the chat. If you agreed, we should just box in Minnesota and put all the liberals in there. And we agree our tax.

We will pay taxes to make that happen. Okay. I'm learning to bet every conservative will be like take as much taxes money from you as you want to do that. I actually, I made this argument before. I made this argument before. At least I ask you a question. Would you be willing to accept a 50% tax on all of your money in order to put all liberals in the Matrix? Yeah.

Agreed. No. Well, hold on. What do you mean no. I have friends. 20s across the board. You can visit them. No, no, no, no.

They choose. Oh, give them the option. Yeah. I'm saying we, I say this to all liberals. I will gladly pay for your Neurrelink and your matrix chamber out of my own pocket. gladly. You know why? That's a win-win. Peace. Yeah, absolutely. The liberals love the idea. You can be a Jedi. Yeah, exactly. Or, or a wizard, Harry.

I mean, you could be a wizard, Harry. It seems like humanity is being guided towards that regard. Listen, let's, communism work in there. I want to do this survey. Let's do this survey. Maybe I could, maybe we can get Rich Barris to do the survey for us. Ask people, their political affiliation, and if they would except entering a matrix, a matrix like environment where all of their dreams come true and they can live in paradise. I guarantee you liberals will largely say yes. Conservatives will absolutely say no. Unlimited COVID shots, limited abortions. They'd love it. Oh, bro. You can do whatever you want.

And here's the thing. Even if only half of liberals say yes, that means we win every election from here on out. I will pay for that. I will pay. You tax me at 80%. Just give me a loaf of bread every week and I will break rocks to make that reality come true. And once Republicans have actual control of the government

will make sure that your nerlink is always serviced. It's always taken care of. You don't ever have to worry about it. And because conservatives know, at least the modern generations, know what would happen if you would get out.

We'll never let them out. This is why we need this film producer I've been talking about a million and one times because this is the perfect minute- minute-long movie. where it's just like a wholesome conservative family having pancakes. Mom makes like 50 pancakes and there's tons of bacon and then seven kids run downstairs and dad's laughing drinking his coffee and then they're smiling and then you just get this beautiful experience

of a traditional American world. The mom's got like an apple pie cooking but no, it's for after dinner. Grandma and grandpa come over and they're all smiling and then right towards the end the punchline comes with the dad says, can you believe it only costs us 80% of our income to maintain it's a beautiful world and then it clicks the TV on and you see the matrix fields of all the liberals just wired in and smiles on their faces yeah sounds like a dream to them too yeah to them too I guarantee you go to any one of these like individuals with identity disorder whatever it might be and you're like listen we're gonna plug you in and you're going to be a

female dragon well and the guy's gonna be like that's all I ever wanted and I'll pay for it a lot of them just no choice because like a lot of them just want to infiltrate everything that's good so I feel like a lot of them would say no. The destruction is the point. But it doesn't matter. If 5% of liberals said yes, we win every election forever. That's it. Just 5%.

Get them all. There'll be a permanent minority and then we'll be like, listen. It's not like they're reproducing, you know. Exactly. To us, it sounds insulting. But I assure you, you go to the average liberal and you say it in a neutral way. Would you be willing to plug in a neural link so you can experience. any universe that you want whenever you want,

they're going to say, absolutely. They're going to be, yeah, that'd be cool. It's like, you can be in Harry Potter. You'll plug your brain in, lay down, you're in Harry Potter. What if we could then hook an IV for nutrients and you could literally just zone up and live in Harry Potter for the rest of your life?

A lot of them... They wouldn't have a long way. They're going to say yes. You get like, you know, bed sores. Yeah, but they spin. We put them in one of those things where they're like, you know what I mean? These are details, Lisa.

These are details that we don't... It's an exercise a little bit. Hold on. You're thinking too much because they're not going to know anything. They're going to be like, I don't care. Oh, I'm just, I'm telling you. I care that that's going to happen.

I'm just saying I'm pointing it out that that's going to happen. I guarantee you there's a morbidly obese, 50-year-old guy who's like, I'm secretly a little girl. And you're like, well, we can plug your brain in the machine. You'll be one. I'll please throw it. Okay. They'll do it in two seconds.

You don't think so? No, listen, I think they will. I'm not complaining about it. I'm just like, you know, putting all the, you know. I guarantee you there's a decent double-digit percentage of these people where you said you'll only live another 20 years because of the bed sores and the muscle at your feet and they'll be like, I don't care. They'll like, yeah, fine, it'll be blessed. Go ahead. Yep.

Yeah. I know I agree with you. When you're in the neural leg, you slow time down for the experience time slower, so it'll seem like a full lifetime for him. Oh, yeah. You wouldn't be anywhere near that facility. You could deviate time. Somebody was saying, this was somebody on a podcast about pharmaceutical psychedelics and that the next phase of humanity will be people plugging in to the neural. net just like you're talking about, but on

legalized pharmaceutical psychedelics, and then they'll just be in there. That's really terrifying. Where do you find this stuff again? Because I've never heard of it. Ian likes drugs. It likes talking about drugs. I don't remember what that was on. I never heard that out.

That was on, I don't know. I got to get on your YouTube algorithm. Yeah, it's like Rogan, Chase Hughes. It's a lot of these like podcasts, podcasts. Yeah, you said me something so I could like, so we could be on the same way so I can know what you're talking about. Because I hear that stuff and I'm like, I've never heard anything like that. You can just Google.

like searching. Yeah, I'm like, I'm set in 1800s, you know what I mean? Like, um, next time I'm bringing up, I'll see if I can have some. Yeah, let me just see what they're talking about. I got to mess. I'm pretty sure a lot of conservatives would agree to peacefully, like, do a what they call the peaceful divorce. Like, okay, we're going to give the Rockies and West to the liberals.

That's your country now. And this is our country. And the right's going to be like, yeah, okay, I guess. A lot of people are going to be like, it's better than civil war. Liberals won't, though, because as communists, they're like, I must consume you. Yeah. We need also Pacific Coast access. Militarily we need it.

So I don't think it can happen. I don't think there can be any kind of peace of separation. Yeah, no, I don't think peace of divorce is possible because of allocation of resources. Like the West Coast produces a lot of food and it's going to imbalance everything. Plus, some states have nukes and some don't. That's going to be real weird. Yep. Yeah, you know, it's really funny.

Which, let's play a game, friends. Which state, if a civil war were to break out, which state do you think, would be one of the most sought after to control. Let's say two factions. Colorado, baby. Why Colorado? Because it's got underground bases and it's super high up. Pennsylvania steel production.

We used to do a lot of steel production out of there. And I'm sure they're still... The raw materials are there? No, I mean, like, the setup is there. They still have a lot of the factories and stuff at all. I need raw materials, though. What do you think, Phil? Florida.

Why? They want to seize Florida? I think, well, because the Florida's got... Well, if you're talking about where you'd want to be or where they're going to... Oh. You've got left and right factions, war breaks out, what's the first target? They say, we have to control this state.

Someone said Hawaii. Yeah, right? I would say, Hawaii is just gone. They have a wide range of... California. So maybe, like, instead of doing it this way, we do it, like, horizontally. North and South. That's how the country splits, because, like, you just get a good amount of each.

I think they tried that before. Yeah, California would be one of them. The North had the manufacturing, though. You've got fracking in the Dakotas. I would argue North Dakota because the frack fields light up brighter than most U.S. cities at night, how big they are. And the amount of oil that they produce. But it doesn't mean they produce more oil than anybody else. California produces a lot of oil as well.

Yeah, they produce it, but I don't think there are any refineries there. Jersey has refineries. New Orleans has refineries. I'd argue North Dakota because it's the easiest to take. Texas produces. Yeah, New Mexico, Texas, North Dakota. I'd argue North Dakota because it's largely flat and easy to take. Yeah, North Dakota would become like the Ukraine in a civil war.

It would be mud. It would be no man's land. Everybody would want it. Everyone would just artillery shell the shit out of that flat land. It would be dead. There's got to be targets to use artillery. The frack fields are probably to be flattened by bombings because nobody can have it. Exactly.

Because we can't hold it. We're under siege too often. You're like, under water refiners. Can you frack? Here's the thing. Yes. You can crack. Right.

So fracking is important way. And so is like. Neon, right? So neon is a byproduct of steel, right? And you need neon for like what those superconductors. What do they call it the right? You're talking about neon? Neon's a literally byproduct of steel. That's why Ukraine and Taiwan have a ton of it, right? And they need that for those little chips that we make for all of our communication, our cell phones for all of our military, what are they called superconductor? No, they're, you know, I'm talking about the little chips in Taiwan. And semiconductors. Simiconductors. That's it. Yep. Yeah, like we need, you need that. So

steel production is high up there. So you want somewhere we're, we're You can produce steel and you can have natural gas. Yeah. PA is densely populated and would easily be absorbed as soon as a war broke out. In the middle, it's not densely populated. It's East Coast. Okay. Pennsylvania's on the water.

Everything east of the Mississippi. We have a Delaware. We can just, yeah. It's on the water. It's going to, like, I like Pennsylvania. The question is where the densest military strongholds. That's part of why I think so. And population bases.

California. because you've got the second Marine Division there. You've got Miramar. You've got Navy Naval Air Force and Marine Corps bases there. You can get a lot of farms there. But the third would be divided too, not totally, but like who gets what? Well, you're talking. You just go take it.

You're talking. That's what the question is, Lisa. Go take it. What are you going to take? The problem with California is how easy it is to conquer SoCal by cutting off their water access. Just like, you're done. This whole country. The people, knock out the Hoover Dam.

Boom. You wipe out the entire population of these areas. The tentativity of like, this is normal for this show. Water systems getting shut down, electrical grids going down. Like, I don't think any state would be held by a faction. It'd be like, oh, God. Oh, I have a question. Is where you live public it is, right?

What city? Yeah, yeah. Oh, I just told somebody to meet me at a library to them, you know. All right. So, and that city is? Yeah, Philadelphia. Where does your water come from? I don't know.

My water, I don't know. You don't know? No, I mean, I guess the Delaware, and it's, yeah, I guess our river's Delaware. The Delaware isn't the lower brackish, though? There's a Delaware and there's the scoogle. Yeah. It's got to be the scoble, I guess. Maybe.

So if the one day, one day the power is out, the radio's off, there's shelling going on and you have no water. Where do you get water in food? Oh, no. I would go up to, like, where I horseback ride up into, like, the waist of heck, and I would go up into the thing, and you can drink that water up there. Do you think you'd be the only one trying to do that? Yeah, but not many people can survive. Let me tell you how retarded these people are.

Of course. But are you going to be able to make it up there with a million other people all doing the same thing? This will be crawling over their bodies. Lisa is very high confidence that she's right. Is where you live public? If it's not, don't say anything. It's in New York City. Oh, okay.

Do you know where your water comes from? No. I don't want to say the wrong answer. No. I don't know. It's not a trick question. No, I don't know. My point is that nobody knows where their water comes from.

Most people don't even know. And so I'll just say this. It's fascinating how many people, people are like, oh, I'd survive for sure. And it's like, uh-huh. No, I wouldn't. The only one in this room would actually survive is Ian. No.

Why do you think that? Because you can survive off just the air and the sun. I don't eat much. Yeah, he would start floating. I try to be. I've never really truly officially been a breatherian, but I'm into it. Oh, wow. Are you a vegan?

No, I haven't been for phases. He has the least body fat. We would probably die the fur. Yeah, that's right. You can last like 20 days. That's great. That's great. That's good.

I'm probably a lot. People have lasted longer. You get lost with there, and I know my way around. Some people have done that. New York City gets its water from the Catscale Delaware watershed, the Croton watershed, and a small groundwater supplying Queens. And New York has a natural water pressure due to the elevation of their water source, which is interesting.

That's why they don't need water towers the same way. Here's my... My water pressure is good. This is my philosophy. This is my take on how we... The off-ramp, you guys were asking earlier. Let me know what you think. Semantics.

You have to use neurolinguistic programming as a member of the media. Jesse Water is saying earlier, the media is in charge of de-escalation because the politicians only know how to go forward. And so we just, we program these people with words. We tell them what they think. And then they start to think that. And we give them healthy thoughts that de-escalate. We are always the ones de-escalating and we're always the ones losing. Well, I don't think we're loose. I would never consider myself a loser in life. I feel like, I'm talking about our side, our values, everything that we stand for. We are losing. Even right now, woke is worse than it's ever been. Yeah. And it's remarkable that people are like, done. Even I thought so and now it's just like worse than ever. The pressure of against the

United States Republic of free speech is at an all time high. It feels like that legit. Maybe or one of the all time highs. That's true. That's why that's why I feel like I'm on the defense of a lot and why I'm struggling against something else and why I've got to be the one to do what's right when all those guys are doing what's right. But that's the point of righteousness as you stand up and you continue to defend what you know is right. Yeah, I'll take that back. It's not worse than ever, but there are still hotspots like Wikipedia is worse than ever. But Grocoppedia recently started outranking Wikipedia in Google SEO, which is crazy. But you've got the entrenchment in Minnesota, Washington, Oregon, California, and Virginia.

So at the federal level, they did, we did route the wokeness with Donald Trump's victory, but now they're starting to win at the state level. Yeah, I mean, it's an ideology, so it doesn't go away. You know, people that believe these things, they don't believe these things. because they've heard it one time. It's a way to view the world. Like, it's really the oppressor-oppressed dynamic. And when you see the world that way,

you're constantly looking for ways to make the world fit into this dynamic that you expect. So it's not going to go away. Like, the people that are woke, like they were educated, that this is the way the world works. So this is the way they see the world. And you can't just, I mean,

you can't just make that go away. That's why there's, that's why so many attempts at brainwashing people in China didn't work, you know. It's built in. I liked how the economy sort of set target right and bud light companies that adopted woke, you know, ESG, corporate governance stuff.

That was good time. And people just snap back by breaking up their bottom line. Like, it might be hard to overturn the ideology, but you can definitely affect the pocketbook of, I won't come from the communists, but these like corporate decoratics. I do think the fact that woke is still here kind of puts to bed the argument that it was just a sigh up by the corporations.

There's a lot of people that were making the argument that it was like, oh, this is just corporations doing it. And it's like, no, it's something that people really believe the corporations are doing it because people that believe that stuff have gotten into positions of authority. Like Dave, Dave Smith was making the argument that Woke came after Occupy Wall Street

as a way to get people to stop paying attention to the billionaires or whatever. Woke was in Occupy Wall Street. Yeah, but there were people. It was the core component of how they organized I went to Occupy Wall Street. I brought the Constitution. I was going to speak and they can't speak.

Too many white people have already spoke today. Yeah, but the argument that I kept hearing was, oh, look, Occupy Wall Street happened. And so, like, the corporations rolled out this woke stuff and blah, blah, blah. But it's like, no, the woke stuff was already in the corporations. It happened to come out right around the same time as Occupy Wall Street, but that's largely because of the Internet being in your pocket with cell phones that were connected to the Internet constantly. But the idea that it was a sigh-up by corporations to get the heat off of business. billionaires. That's just, that was never true. This is something, this is an ideology that people believe.

And so you can't just make it go away. Let's jump to this next story from Politico, bizarrely and personally lurking Gabbard's appearance at FBI election raid alarms Dems. As it should, for those who don't know the story, I'll keep it real simple for you. Trump rated the Fulton County election hub. Tulsi Gabbard was there. And Trump's been spam blasting videos about how the 2020 election was stolen, how it was stolen from him. And Tulsi Gabbard, she's the director of national intelligence. So what I find really funny here is that these Democrats are going, oh, she shouldn't be involved in domestic affairs.

Why is she here? Would anyone like to posit perhaps a reason why someone who should not be involved in domestic affairs would be at an election hub? Maybe there's a foreign interference. Ian, ding, ding, ding, right away. Could it be that the insinionionion? they are making is that foreign countries and influence have been subverting our elections, and that's why she's there as the DNI.

Possible. I think Dominion, correct me if I'm wrong. Venezuela. Is that where, is it headquartered him? The arguments, the theory right now is that Trump, one of the theories is that Trump's invasion of Venezuela, I'm going to be honest with you guys. I actually think there's a decent probability, maybe even greater than chance that the reason he got Maduro was over the 2020 election and nothing else.

And the reason why I say this is, if there's one thing that Trump's pissed about, it's 2020, and he still won't shut up about it, he posts on truth nonstop about it. He, what was it? Pam Bondi wanted election voter rolls from Minnesota. Now you've got this action in Fulton County. When I see all this stuff, I'm like, man, yeah, I don't know if it's true, but I can genuinely believe it. If someone said Trump invaded Venezuela because he wanted, you know, information.

on these voting conspiracy theories. I mean, I'd be like, yeah. I have a question. I believe it. If true and if proven true, what is the remedy? For what exactly? Monarchy. We have no choice.

If Trump finds even a single fraudulent ballot, he has to be king, right? Oh, I see the logic in that? I mean, that's an obvious joke, but like Sam Cedar's going to clip it anyway. He'd be like, oh, he finally showed his true colors. What is remedy? do all Biden's executive orders?

Are they instantly nullified? Like what is the remedy for that? No, I think you just don't make the mistake again. It's federal management over the elections and an overhaul of the electoral system. That's good news. I mean, I'm sure it is good news. I just don't, like I said, I really can't see what they would do to fix it. But what do you mean?

Because no matter what, the Dems will say, even if we have evidence, some say, that's not evidence. It didn't really happen. Trump fabricated it. Blah, blah, blah, blah, right? And then we'll continue. Of course, the only thing that matters is Trump's willingness to use force. Like, Trump could literally just do more stuff like this.

He could go and arrest James Comey. I mean, it's a question of does Trump have to balls? That's why I called him Buchanan. Listen, to all the people, I want to say it's to all the people who are just like, Trump's not losing. Trump's a winner. You wake me up when anyone for the Obama administration, who we know is corrupt, gets arrested.

Just wake me up then. I'm not saying he's not doing anything because they're clearly doing something. This is a nuclear bomb and I'm very happy it's happening. But come on. You tell me when Trump actually gets a conviction of like Letitia James or Fannie Willis or something for what they did, that was clearly corruption. Yeah. Trump can't even get Don Lemon arrested. I'm not blaming Trump for these things.

There's an entrenched system that is resisting law enforcement. I'm just saying, you know, he's not winning every single time. I would be happier to my, you know, to answer your question, the restitution, I'd be happier to have a secured election in the future, presidencies, you know, open source voting software code, paper ballots that are double, triple, quadruple checked on like a blockchain that everyone can cross-reference multiple times. Something like super secured as opposed to arresting Letitia James.

I don't really care about who did what back then. I want the future to be better. So if that means that we have to forgive, I'm willing to focus on solving the problem. When I talk about remedy, like how do you think? How do you fix it, right? Like, how do you fix it going forward? How do you fix what happened in the past? And when I say fix it, do you, like, I try to live in reality.

That's why everybody calls me like a black villain and stuff. But like, do you think that what you just said is possible? You think they'll ever get it done? Yeah. No. Well, they can. But whether or not it's... You have to you.

Listen, the point of putting people in jail and I hope to do. I want to be positive with you. The point of putting people in jail is to deter people from doing it in the future. Right? Like, it's not like, oh, well, I don't. we got to get retribution. It's because if people think, oh, well, you know, they got away with it. So we're going to keep trying.

You have to make sure people don't want to try this stuff. So it's not like, oh, we got to get them back. Whereas there are people that are going to make it out like that. They're going to say they want revenge. But the real point of putting people in jail is to deter this behavior, right? Like if people are like, ah, I don't want to do that because they toss you in jail for 20 years. You lose your life. You know, not like capital punishment I'm talking about.

You lose the important part of your life. If you lose a lot of freedom years, you know, like that's the stuff that'll keep people from doing it. So that's that right there is reason enough. So it's not, again, it's not about, you know, retribution and getting them back and blah, blah, blah. It's if you put people in jail, then people understand, you know, not to do this because they could end up in jail. Especially when you put people that are in, you know, positions of power or positions of authority. Like if people believe that, you know, anyone can be put in jail. jail for it, then they, that deters them or deters, you know,

that there's other people from doing it. Yeah. And also prevents the person from committing the offense again. Well, yeah, that does true. Yeah. I mean, that's, that's, I'm just, we got to have the island, you know what I mean. All right. It's green land.

Lisa agrees to the island. 100%. There we go. We build a floating island. No, no, no. It exists called Australia. Oh. They did it once before.

What if we did it again? We're like, wait. I thought this was, it was normal. We're like, no, we're an actual country now. We could deal with Australia where it's like we're not going to imprison people. We're just going to send them your way. New Zealand. New Zealand is more for the criminals than Australia was.

Was it? Yeah. Well, I don't know. New Zealand's kind of nice. Australia's where the giant spiders try to kill you. You can make an island. That's what I want to live near any of those. Let's build a series of archipelagos.

You see that story of like some prankster raised an American flag in a greenland flagpole or something? Did he really? Yes, day one. Well, that means stars now. Right. No money exchange necessary. Actually. It's just like, you know, if you stand in their town hall and declare it, it just is. Capture the flag.

Yeah. King of the Hill. It's ours. There was a time when a handful of guys standing in a building could change a government, which is really funny. That's it. That's what we're in charge. And it's like, okay, I guess. That's what people were behaving like on January 6th.

They're like, oh, they're going to go over the government. It's like, look, man, the U.S. government isn't a game. A capture the flag. It's not King of the Hill. Just because they're in the Capitol doesn't mean that Joe Biden's not going to get inaugurated. That's ridiculous. Anyone that seriously said, oh, you know, they're going to actually, they're not going to let Joe Biden become the president.

That was a ridiculous notion. How would you guys feel if there was no midterm election? It depends on the context. You would feel strange? I feel very weird. Like you'd be tingling? Yeah. You'd be like, who my senses would be going erratic.

Depends on the context. Donald Trump cancels the election. I'd be very pissed off. Let's say that they uncover evidence in like seven states showing that Democrats have cheated. I don't saying proof, evidence. They're like, here's fraudulent ballots. Here's proof.

They held a bunch of hearings on it. And then Trump says, we clearly cannot have these elections because they're compromised. So we have to have federal oversight and redo this and to take six months or something. So the election's postponed. I would hope it would come from Congress

and not from one guy's mouth, that amount of authority. Congress can't do anything. I would never want one guy to have the ability to cancel a state's elections against its will. We're talking about federal elections. It's so interesting that you mentioned that because I had a leftist tell me at a protest a week and a half ago

that Trump was going to not allow elections to happen in the future because he's been putting all of his people in there trying to see what they're doing. So he makes jokes in his rallies alluding to that, but I don't think he's doing it. How would you feel if you did? How would you feel if you did a couple scenarios? How would you feel if Donald Trump just came out and said, we're not doing it? I kind of like dictator. I'm kind of getting in on the dictator bus.

You know that. So, like, man, I'd be fine. Yeah, if Trump's a dictator, then we can have him for a while, you know? No. I mean, I don't like it. To be honest with me. Why don't you like it? I don't want a dictator.

He doesn't have that long. Why? I don't want to set the precedent of allowing one guy to cancel elections. Why? Because it feels antithetical to the people. I don't care about what feels. It seems as if it should not be part of the American ethos. Okay, I'm going to try this again.

For what functional reason do you oppose this? Because of the precedent, it sets. Unless you're saying it's already legal. What precedent does it set? You're saying if the president said, you know what, I want to cancel eight states' elections. No, just no election at all. No presidential election? No midterm election.

No midterm elections, states you can't. So I'm going to be very specific. I'd be like, how do you have the authority guy over my government? My question is, for what functional? Functional reason is that not good? Because in four years, if a guy wants to do it again, he's got precedent. And then people will be, I don't want that function to be put in place. Why?

Because it's too much power to put into one guy's hands. Why? I'm asking for the function. Only because I've read history about when oligarchs take power and when demagogues take like full authoritative power and it usually is very, very bad. In what way? Because then the next person that comes in often is way worse. In what way?

They're more willing to use force. In what way? Sending in troops and killing civilians and children and poisoning people. So let's just try this. Because my point was, for what functional reason is it bad? We have a dictator. You could have said autocratic regimes typically kill civilians and oppress people and take their rights away. That is the functional reason.

There's been benevolent dictators. Look at the guy. In Spain. In Spain, Franco. Piss Estratus. He's Estratus, the guy that found in Athens. Was it exceptionally benate? Who was that based Roman guy?

He was Cincinnati? Yeah, he was cool. Was he the guy who was like, I don't want to be emperor. I'm out of here. I'm going to go from him. I think he did his job, and then he was like, I'm done. Take it back. They were like, no, be emperor forever.

Like, nah. Piss Estratis, I think that's how you say his name, was the Greek dude. He wandered into Athens when it was just this fishing village. And he had this beautiful woman with him. He's like, this is Athena. Bowed down to me. And they all did, and they were gone. And then he ruled Athens as their god, basically, and turned it into the greatest trade hub on earth.

As then they call him a benevolent dictator. And then when he was gone, it was gone. So you don't want that? I don't think we need. Well, I don't. That would be cool if it could happen. But it would be weird. How could it happen?

How? A guy. So is it possible that one man could assume the power like this, what was his name? Piss Estratis. Or Piss Estratus? I don't think it's piss. I don't think it's piss. Yeah, I don't think it's pissed.

But I think it's spelled like that. P-I-S-A. Would you want him to transform America into a beautiful shining city on a hill? Ooh, it would be cool. But with the Internet, I don't think it's possible. It's too much information flow. I'm not saying if he could do it,

if he could do it. If a man could wave the magic wand and we are now a republic again, a shining Republican, no, yeah. No, no, no, no, no, a dictatorship. No, I don't want it. Can we just say? What's that? A dictatorship where everyone's happy

and there's no one being oppressed. I'd be honestly rather have a struggling republic than a functioning dictator's. No, I mean. What did Aristotle say? for everyone to be happy. Aristotle said that a benevolent dictator is the best kind of government

and a tyrannical... He said a philosopher king. Yeah, a benevolent king. Benevolent king is the best... And the worst is a tyrannical king. Ooh, yeah, that's... I disagree with that. I don't think he understood

what bureaucracy was like. You might be right. Because it's awful. Well, like, bureaucratic, communistic dictatorship is worse than a king. I agree. Depends on the king,

but yeah, generally. It's the worst. I think corporate bureaucracy, communististic is the worst. If you have a king, but you have an armed populace that can revolt, then you incentivize the king to be good to the population. A king that if you don't have an armed population,

then you've got a significant problem. I like it in the way I sound, see. But yeah, if you have an armed populist that can revolt and go after the king, then the king is not just incentivized by doing good for his people, and making sure that history looks at him as a positive thing, but also, you know, that's gonna rule. Come on over my side, Phil.

Come on over. What king could rule effectively with the threat of overthrow from his people? You'd have to disarm the population. No, you're your people. You own them. No, no. You're the king. What did you have owned their subject to you?

What about this, Ian? What if the United States operated identically as it does now, but it had a king that meant localities ran their own. jurisdictions, cities voted on their own laws, city councils, state governors, legislatures, but there was a king. You probably see a lot more dead in Minnesota today than if we had a republic like we do. Why? Because the king wouldn't tolerate any of that noise. No, no, no. Hold on. There's a lot of assumptions in that. Mild uprisings. You're creating a fictional king in your head. I'm talking about the function of the office, not what one tyrannical

person would do. If you want to imagine there's an evil desperate, like, I'll kill people for no reason. Well, then you can get a president who does that. You can get a president who's going to be like, I'm going to go kill a bunch of people. I think that small revolts or like small riots are much more they threaten a king much more than they threaten a republic. Like a republic, we can handle a small riot revolution in a city or even if state government goes kind of crazy. The rest of us can kind of handle that. A king, you cannot allow people to start to show strength against you. You have to have mechanical autocratic control at all times. Jordan's got a king and he's very popular.

Who? Jordan's got a king and he's very popular. He's like the benevolent kind of thing. Jordan, I don't know. St. Ferdinand. There's a whole bunch of them. There's one in Yugoslavia. If you ask AI to list you your benevolent dictators and kings, it'll give you a whole long list. I'll do that.

Well, it feels like a regression. My point with this line of questioning in this conversation is largely just that a lot of people this country don't actually understand why it is that it's bad to have an autocrat they'll just be like because it is because we shouldn't but they don't actually know and the nuance the american revolution was largely that parliament was oppressing the colonies it wasn't just that the king was bad king george was bad and they petition the king to actually assist they wanted a voice in parliament they wouldn't get

one right so at the time britain had a parliament they had a they had a king and they had a parliament They had people who are, you know, voting on these things. And I love that line from the greatest movie ever made, the Patriot, where Mel Gibson says, tell me, why would I trade one despot 3,000 miles away for 3,000 despots one mile away? And then everyone laughs. Yeah, it was Lord North. That was the prime minister at the time, the single head. That was the real villain in the revolution was Lord North.

He was obsessed with crushing the colonists. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think there just has to be a little more structure to society more than what we have now, because right now, most of the real. of the people in America are slaves to their own desires. And I think that you cannot be free unless you have a framework to work within. And right now, it's like Lashchchah's chaos. It's just a mess. We have to get one more story in.

This is big news, ladies and gentlemen, Trump officials met with Canadian separatists. British Columbia premier alleges treason. Looks like we're taking Canada, boys. It's happening. This is the plan. What if Trump really does foment secessionist? you know, be, uh, practices like Quebec declares independence and then British Columbia and then Canada breaks apart. What are they going to do about it? What are they going to do about it?

Nothing. I just think there's everything that's going on is so wild right now. Should the United States assist the separatists in declaring independence from their respective? No, I don't care about them at all. No, no, unless we can get something out of it, absolutely not leave them alone. You know, I'm I'd rather that the US is doing all this crazy shit than like, just watching it all happen around us in the world right now. Like you said earlier, it's so nuts. All these changes that are happening. I'm glad we're like our government is active and like aggressively pioneering the change

because it could easily have been Biden sleeping on his hands. You were just saying how much you don't want a king, but now you want the government to aggressively interact with the rest of the world. No, no, no, no, no. I don't want to do that. I want massive American hegem. I love American ethos, but I don't want a king. Should the world operative?

The world operate under the whims of the United States? Clearly. Yes. If they want it, if they want it, I won't let a tyrant stop them. Have you been watching Fallout? No. So, spoiler alert. I'm going to spoil the show for people who haven't caught up to every episode,

but it's relevant to conversation because the plot in season two, spoiler alert again. This is like, I mean, look, if you've watched it up to episode three, you're not going to, I'm not spoiling anything for you. But the plot is basically around this guy, he's in, New Vegas, and he's got chips that can overwrite the brains of wastelanders. So psychopathic murderers who are screaming and fighting, he plugs this thing on their neck, presses a button, and they go, whoa, I'm sorry about that. I don't know what came over me.

And then they start sweeping the floor and cleaning things up. And the conundrum for the main character is, is it better to have peaceful slavery or destructive chaos and freedom? So I ask you, Ian, is it better that when you say if they want? So if there is a nation where the king mandates children get raped and he's selling his children to warlords, basically Epstein country, should the U.S. be like, nah. If the U.S. can, should they go and subjugate that and stop them from doing it? Not on its own, but if there's enough global push against it, then I feel like the globe should stand up for the children. globe. Enough countries like the U.N. we have kind of generic. You know, people don't always like that, but some sort of global consensus that we have to protect the kids. Global consensus.

Something. So it's not just America. Why? Why not just America? I like this. I like where he's going with us. So let's try this again. Let's say, let's say the United States then proposes a global vote. And all the country of the world come to a big meeting. And Donald Trump goes, listen, this small island nation is abusing kids. It's got to stop. So we propose. we're going to stop the rape, and then 62% of the countries vote in favor of child rape. Should we just go, okay. We'll allow it. Oh, like if this is a UN vote or something?

Well, you said if they vote for it, so what if they vote the other way? 62%. So you're saying 30, I mean, 33%'s a lot of people on earth to disagree with rape and you say there's a global consensus. What if the global consensus is in favor of child rape? I mean, if I was, I would not issue an invasion if I was the president over that to a sovereign kingdom that's horrifying their children. I don't think it's just a nation.

The Commonwealth. Not commonwealth. Oh, we're talking about a British country? Well, now, no, no. You said a sovereign kingdom. You know, what about a republic? Well, he said it was a king. What about a republic?

Again, I'm just pointing out that. Any sovereign nation, I wouldn't. These questions are impossibilities for any world leader. It's rock and a hard place. You said it was a global consensus to shut them down. You would. But what would you do if the consensus is in the other direction? Supporting it.

And trying to shut you down for stopping it. Tough one. Build a consensus. This is why you were not the president, Ian. This is why it is hard to be Donald Trump. The reason I'm not is because I haven't run yet. Is that the only reason? Also, I'm not going to have the real talk about this on TV.

Like, if you really want a war game stuff, you can't do it live. Everybody, well, on the uncensored portion. Certainly not. Because. No, it's not going live. You know, the reason why I'm less animated over a lot of these issues, like Epstein stuff, for instance, I think Trump flubbed this one really, really bad. I think they should be releasing this stuff.

I'm glad that they're at least saying they're going to do it, but we'll see what happens. I think they're past the deadline, so I'm not happy with it. I think it's a fourth. But I fully recognize you have no idea the difficult positions that world leaders are in. They're going to come to you and they're going to be like, Ian, here's two Manila folders. You open one and it's like a busload of school children are about to fall off, fall from the Brooklyn Bridge. And they open another one, the love of your life is about to fall to our death from the Brooklyn Bridge. You can only choose to save one or the other.

What do you do? Definitely saving my level. You've got to do the children. Obviously, you save both the same time because, you're going to. is your Spider-Man. True. It's true. We pull on all the stops.

They make a movie about it. I forgot that was a scene in that. My point is Trump is probably presented a daily basis with circumstances where both outcomes are bad. Yeah. Well, actually, a really good example of this. Right now, the Democrats are proposing that immigration enforcement may only occur after a judicial warrant is issued. They're arguing that because, so it's contradictory in a sense. The Supreme Court has ruled in the Constitution upholds that immigration is completely,

under the purview of the executive branch. The executive branch has immigration courts, which issue warrants, but these are not judiciary branch warrants. The Democrats are demanding before the executive branch can take any action on immigration, they have to go to a judge to get approval. If that happens, there will be no immigration enforcement. The argument from the Democrat side is, you can't go into a home without a warrant. True. Fourth Amendment. The argument from the right, the executive branches, if we know a fugitive from the law is in a building, we can enter without a warrant exigent circumstances. There is a circumstance where if they know a fugitive has entered this building recently, they can enter without a warrant. Anyone can. It's exigent circumstances.

However, they are arguing that they will go to a house where they know the person lives and argue we can enter right now. The left is saying, that's a violation of the Fourth Amendment. So you have to choose your, pick your poison. I ask you, this in in this argument should we have no immigration enforcement because we're not going to be able to get through the courts it's impossible we've got 20 million or should we be able to enter homes with only administrative warrants from the executive branch well have they put this to the courts yet this is actually an ongoing debate and the left is Democrats trying to pass a law that would make it a requirement the question is should it be i don't think so it sounds like

It sounds like it defeats the purpose of the function of ICE operations. So then you're going to have circumstances where ICE agent chubbed to a house and they walk in without a warrant. They walk in without a judicial warrant. So this means that an executive branch official says you can go in the house. Oh my God, that's crazy. That is not good. Yep, certainly bad. The alternative is we can't deport anybody because they just sit inside the house and say you can't come in.

Because you go to these judges and they say you can't go in the house, no. And they got to do like a sting on the guy and wait for him outside and chase him down and they see him in public. Which which means effectively it will be impossible to deport even a million people because they will claim sanctuary in any building they can. So again, I'm not advocating. Running them food. They could just stay in there and have people. I'm not advocating for either system. I'm pointing out there's a serious conundrum.

There's no easy answer. This is what irks me about these these people right now and they're like, you know, the Second Amendment allows me to bring my gun to a protest. Shut up, don't care. I'm not playing this stupid game. Preddy was not protesting. He was part of a group that was intending to break the law, to commit felonies, and he brought a gun to go do it. He shouldn't have died. I'm sad that he died. It's sad that people are being radicalized like this, but it's a circumstance he created. You got a rock in a hard place. And in war, Abraham Lincoln says, I'm putting the boot down. And he's a hero. You know, we lived in this golden age where people just think you can have whatever

you want. We've got shoot out. We've got vehicles being rammed in Chicago. You've got ice agents shooting people who are dragging them from vehicles. It's happened twice. And one's once in Florida, once in Chicago. You've got now what's happening in Minnesota. And there are people who genuinely believe that life is anything but conflict. War is the natural state of human existence, unfortunately.

It is rare that there is not war for humans. And so many people right now, especially during the woke period, And during the Bolshev revolution, they think, I'll just keep my head down and it'll all go away. And then they get killed. The reality is, might makes. There's just thing as might making anything right. Certainly some people will argue it's right after the fact like Abraham Lincoln was right, they'll say. But does it matter whether it's morally right or morally wrong?

Might makes, period. And if you have no might, you don't exist. Yeah, power. Power, you know, Mao did say it comes out of the barrel of a gun. or as a government authority comes out of the barrel of a gun. Also, out of the throat of your mouth, you do have a lot of power. You might not have a physical force and might. Let's all celebrate the morally superior rabbit being eaten by the wolf.

A state's legitimacy is only based on its monopoly of force. That is true. But also a state's ability to persist is based on its constitution. Or its monopoly on four. Kind of. Usually autocratic force for governments get destroyed. They get overturned from within, usually. That means they lost the monopoly on force.

Well, like in the U.S., we kind of dispersed the monopoly on force. You know we call that, Ian? Like local cops? No, no, a duopoly on force. Yeah. What was that called? Well, I mean, maybe you have a better one. What was that?

He said it. Civil war. Well, I think we have police and then we have federal forces. So we kind of don't have a monopoly. Ian, how many movies have you seen? Where the cops in the crime scene and get a donut? And a guy comes and goes, out of the way, officer. This is my crime scene now.

And he goes, oh, who's at the feds in? Well, look at Minnesota, who has the monopoly there, nobody. That's why we are saying civil war. I don't know. I just think this is built for this. When Trump sends in the feds, they cannot be like we're going to organize at a state level, an institutionalized paramilitary group to commit felonies. This is insane that it's happening.

And the reason, I'm going to say it again, Trump is Buchanan, is because for the love of all that is holy, state reps are organizing insurgency, and we are seeing nothing even said about it. Now, I'll give them some slack. I'm going to calm down. Maybe behind the scenes, they are doing something, but I'm not cutting them any slack because we've not seen any strong action. Outside of, there's been some great policy stuff.

But, come on, let's teach you James on mortgage fraud. Adam Schiff on mortgage fraud. It's weak. It's weak. And you know what? I'm not trying to rag on them and say they're not trying. but if they're not capable, they're not capable. Don Lemon should be in jail.

They're busting their ass with what they got, which is the head of a republic. It's not a monarchy where they can just go smash it up. Within months of Biden getting into office, they were hunting down J-Sixers and locking them up. I know. But these guys, well, I don't know for sure, but I feel like the Trump admin's trying to do it right. They're trying not to go hunt people down.

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Yeah. All right, let's go to your chats and rants and see what y'all are on about now. Let's see. Trees says, I wish Trump was 25% of the Hitler dictator they say he is.

Just even 25%, you know, just even 25% you know. He doesn't even have to be Hitler. You'd just be like, you know, a dictator. I love that I'm like pulling everybody to the dictator's not. A little bit holds grudence. All right.

Force name change says as in Alberta I've got to say, despite my admiration of U.S. and strategic economic advantages of becoming a 50 first state, I wouldn't join you. I don't want to get rats from you, dirty bastards.

Oh, the rats aren't so bad. You couldn't be a state either because states would be allowed to vote. you guys aren't going to be allowed to vote. You're a territory. But Rock Rob says, Hey Phil, love the band and loving the anti-fragile record.

Cheers. But I need you to expand your tour, bro. Can't make it all the way out there from Kansas. Not this time. I'm sorry, man. Looks like a bunch of the Rumble Rents are gone. That's unfortunate. Igbails says,

is it time for wrecknecks with big trucks mounted with USA flags and loaded for bear? It's always time for that. To defend up, to descend upon, you mean? Minnesota. No, that part, I don't. I just think big trucks.

Marx lives says, can a republic survive a communist revolution and revolutionary tactics? The historical track record isn't good. Indeed, a liberal system like the one that we have, and I don't mean liberals, I mean the traditional liberal idea of classical liberalism. It's too susceptible to this. The live and let live model will always be crushed. And guys, there's a fundamental truth. Those who want to be left alone up against those who want to conquer, always lose. Ask our good friends in Catalonia how it's going for him.

Another thing Plato said is, you know, you take interest in government or government is going to take interest in you. Yep. Let's see what else we got going on over here. Get some of these super chates, huh? See what the people are on about. Give it to me. All right. Let's see.

Don says, how is Timmy not in jail or commit treason? To be Waltz, not yet. Because I didn't. No. Oh, you mean Tim Waltz. I was like me. That's hilarious. I was like, don't look at me.

What did I do? No, Tim Walz. Because treason is aiding an enemy during a time of war. Seditious conspiracy, indeed. And he's not because Trump is Buchanan. I don't think Trump cares all that much. I don't think so. We'll see.

We'll see. I think he's afraid to, not like, afraid. But I just don't want to look bad. It doesn't want people not to like him. All right. Gregor says, you guys have been throwing the ar. word around a lot. I will be willing to part with a R word pass if y'all

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that Mr. Poole will say we're in a civil war in the next episode? You would lose because what did I say when asked? That you would put a million dollars on it and then not do it on purpose.

I said I didn't know and it's hard to tell. But if at some point you would say the word in the next episode. No, I said we're in one because we're in a civil war

which I've not said. I've said we don't know. It's possible, but I guarantee you if at any point we are in a discernible and very obvious civil war. They will have said it began a while ago.

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Right on. All right. What have we here? J.W. says, to quote Eminem, I am whatever you say I am because if I wasn't, then why would you say I am? That actually is a great line. I do like it. Yeah.

But it's like it's an insult. Like you're not a liar, you know, right? You're not lying, are you? All right. Noir Nicosia says, Alex Prady, Renee Good and the left had no issue when Obama unalived American citizens. Trump is absolved from any criticism. Trump's PR team should repeat this ad nauseum. I agree.

Trump should go out and when they go, Mr. President, what do you say about? the people claiming that you know ice is a Gestapo he should go well it was pretty bad when abduraman al-laki was killed by Barack Obama and of course you know that all of these people that are upset were out in the streets over this what's that they weren't spare me your lies you don't care you never cared i wasn't asking you that we had to focus on what what's going on now oh i'm sorry what were we focused on how come we're doing this stuff with ice and well you know look uh it is tough that is a 16-year-old kid who got killed by Barack Obama, and he was an American citizen.

So I agree. It's very tragic. And I would argue that it is deeply upsetting that the people who are out protesting today did not protest that Barack Obama murdered an American citizen. And it's not to go back and say, focus on a past president. It's to say, what is the precedent set? When an American president kills American citizens and you don't actually care. I got to tell you, no one will believe you when you cry wolf.

That's called staying on your island in congressional media training. staying on your island just talk about your plan just whatever they say just take it back to what you want to say and just continue to say whatever they don't do it well they don't they don't that's why they need more media training there's just so bad

you have to do it in a condescending and insulting manner like I'm intentionally not answering what they what they do is they'll be like well I'm deeply troubled by what we're seeing with ICE and as you know ICE is involved in enforcement operations and the American people voted for this the American people voted for a lot of things one of which was

of course, immigration, but also a good economy. And that's why I think the economy needs to get some focus right here. And nobody wants to talk about it. Now, Trump's working on an economic plan. That's the basic, boring politician pivot. No, you need to go, when they ask the question, like Trump does, that's a stupid question. Let's talk about the economy and something people actually care about. Yeah, I like what he does that.

Well, he just insults him. And Senator Kennedy's pretty good, too, because he makes everything funny. That's a stupid question. I think rather than condescending, I would be stupid. I would make them think I was stupid. like I would keep answering the question wrong, and they'd be like, why won't he? He really thinks I'm asking him about Barack Obama blowing up.

No, no, no, you want to be real dumb. When they ask you about, like, you know, people in Minnesota are protesting right now, be like, well, you know, we're going to try and hop out these protesters, get the lower prices on corn they've been fighting for. And I think, you know, we'll have a bill in Congress. I'm asking them to get the food prices down. No, no, sir, you misunderstand. They're protesting ICE operations.

Well, it is icy up there. I mean, a climate change, I guess has been a big concern for them. But, you know, we can see about helping them salt the roads. may be for the issues with ICE. No, we're talking about immigration enforcement. So am I. Anyway, I have to... But then you just go again and be like,

well, you know, it's immigration is forceful. And I know there's a lot of these people are protesting because there's too much immigration. So, you know, I guess we'll have to, but I appreciate the question. If the protesters want less immigration, then I'll work with Congress to reduce it. Yeah.

You just keep getting it wrong. They're going to go, the funniest thing you can do in a debate if you're just trying to antagonize, is intentionally not understand their point. Because you can't argue with someone who's too stupid to understand what you're saying. And when they don't know, you're not,

you're being fake is so funny to me. When the other person can't tell, you're, oh my go. All right, what we got here? Nolan Bus says, are you guys doing any hangouts while you're down in Florida? Not yet, not for the time being, we gotta figure out what our plans are. So we're looking at a few things

and it's seeming increasingly likely that we will be down here for the foreseeable future. So we have to figure out what we're doing studio-wise, and then obviously all the staff has logistic issues. There is a small, very small probability we go back to West Virginia if we can accommodate a security, something for security. So right now we're looking at

what can we do security-wise? And is it possible? And it's seeming like the answer is overwhelmingly no. But the other problem is, we don't have a studio in Florida. This is a temporary, this is Rumble space. And I don't know that we can use it forever. So we're not entirely sure.

And I will say this, got it's a i will say um if we can't get proper security i will prioritize the safety and well-being well-being of everybody over uh the show so i think we'll figure some out but it's looking like it's going to be florida we'll we'll find a place to do it we have like a mobile rig that we build and set up so we can basically do the show from anywhere as long as we have an empty room cool stuff uh all right let's see what we got here josh gagner is that what it says nothing against nick shirley glad he boosted the signal of the fraud that has happened happening here in Minnesota. That being said, local news broke the story in October, November.

He did not expose it himself. Well, agreed. He just went and made a video that went viral. And I think the reason the video went viral largely was that no one had made a comprehensive video going around showing all of this stuff. We knew the fraud was happening for years. We didn't have someone actually go into the buildings and be like, hey, look, 15 businesses with no customers. That was, that was very, very revealing. It's also revealing that the local news is not like the media climate has changed and that local news isn't getting the attention that it deserves and that podcasters and independent journalists are able to spread the word better. That's all it is. What does it say?

Lady Argiio. I don't know what your name is. I tuned out for a second until you said my favorite magic words off topic. Today is 29th of January 26 and I still want my neuralink. I don't know what the magic words were. Ian, would you get a Norlink? Well, I don't want to implant it, but I would put a hat on that I could go into the net

and then take it off. If you were blind? You could be a wizard. Then I already am a wizard. No, but you could be a wizard. You could go into a wizard universe and fly around and cast spells. I like this universe.

But I am a wizard. You wouldn't want to go into Balders Gate and get to play Balders Gate first person. No, video games are like, the more real life gets more fun, the more boring video games get. I don't know if you were... Do you guys feel like that, too?

Yeah, video games are... Well, I mean, video games just suck these days. They're like blocky. You can only do so much in a video game in real life. That's changing real autonomy. Like full, I can go somewhere else. I can talk to you. We've talked about this years ago that the chat GPT companion in Skyrim.

You can literally say anything to it. You can't do it right now, Tim. I don't want it. You tend to allow it. You can say whatever you want. I would make a large bet to the world right now. Ian will jump into. that machine in two seconds.

Oh, dude, I'll have eight games going at once, controlling them all with my thoughts. I'll have 15 YouTube videos all playing at the same time. But imagine this. Imagine you get the neuralink and you can live stream your universe. Yeah, that's cool. People are gonna watch that. Because in your universe, you can do anything you want.

That's degenerate guys. Bro, you're gonna be like, you're gonna be a Jedi, and people are gonna be like, I wanna watch Ian, just do Jedi stuff. And you go in and there's like, just like a youngling, and you just go, then throw them off a cliff. Do we just be happy with the world God gave us? It would be like, dude, the neural net would be, instead of me giving a monologue to a camera, it would be me thinking about me doing a monologue to a camera.

It would be the same thing just in my mind. The stream would be like any normal video game stream. But you would be in it experiencing it. So people would only hear what you say. Vote for your local mayor, this coming, like just propagandized people with political rhetoric while I'm playing. They just like watch you slaughter younglings in the Jedi temple. massacring children. I don't know.

Would you guys get the neural net? No, I wouldn't. You guys have to answer that. I agree with you. If it's a hat. Would you if it was a hat? No. No.

I don't even want, I don't even want like chat GPT or anything like that. Yeah, I do the hat. What about voice command for your machine? We already have that. Do you use it?

I used to talk to text. What about I? It's going to happen whether you want it to or not, and I'll tell you why. typos in my tweet. It's going to happen. And here's it going to happen, Lisa.

You're going to be old. And your kids are going to be like, mom, you need to get a neural link because I can't even, I can't even call you on the net. And you're going to be like, I use a cell phone. It's like nobody has cell phones anymore, mom. No one has a phone. Just, I'm going to get you one and just use it when I call you. And you're going to be like, okay, fine.

And then you're going to be like, I don't know how this thing works. Mom, if I call you, just put it on. And you're going to put it on and you're going to be in like a living room with your kids. and you're going to use it only for that but the whole world will use it and your kids are going to be like well my my company switched to all neural net we don't use zoom anymore so i had to get one and a gen alpha guy is going to apply for a job when he's 25 or 30 and they're going to be like and what's your neural link identifier number and he's going to go oh i i don't use neural net and they'll be like then how do we get in touch with you and it's going to be like well you can call me on my phone

yeah no one here uses phones i'm sorry neural that's a requirement for this office like you You can't even get on a plane these days without a cell phone. This makes you want to like, like move to some rural location and start a coven or something. I went to the airport coming here. Like just be away from everyone. I want to be in the house walls. I went to United. I need to get a ticket printed because the ticket they emailed me didn't have my TSA pre on it because it was broken.

So I was like, I'll just go get one printed. And I went to the machine and I put in my number and it said, where should we email your ticket? And I was like, okay, I guess put on my email address. It emailed it to me and when I opened it it just opens the app and gives me the same busted ticket with no TSA pre

so I couldn't print a ticket out and then I was like what if my phone was dead how is that I have to have a phone to do this? Man, I tried to I worked with Occupy Sandy in New York

after Hurricane Sandy and we did recovery and my phone died I didn't have a phone it was literally impossible I couldn't do it I couldn't do the job I had to rage quit

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