Timcast IRL - Thomas Massie LOSES Election, EXPLOSIVE Thrown At PA Polling Site w/ Steve Friend & Scott Presler

Episode Date: May 20, 2026

George, and Tate are joined by Steve Friend and Scott Presler to discuss Thomas Massie losing reelection, Thomas Massie speaks after losing, Trump endorsing Ken Paxton for Senate, a Democrat goes viral for twerking as a campaign strategy, Minnesota bans prediction markets, and the birth tourism industry explodes.  SUPPORT THE SHOW BUY CAST BREW COFFEE NOW - https://castbrew.com/ Join -    / @timcastirl   Hosts:  George Santos @GerogeSantos (X) Tate @realTateBrown (everywhere) Chris @ChrisKarr17 (X) Producer: Carter @carterbanks (X) |  @trashhouserecords  (YT) Guests: Steve Friend @RealStevefriend (X) Scott Presler @ScottPresler (X Podcast available on all podcast platforms! For advertising inquiries please email [e-mail] Thomas Massie LOSES Election, EXPLOSIVE Thrown At PA Polling Site | Timcast IRL

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This is a astonishing defeat and a major victory for President Trump, something that a lot of people were bullish on. A lot of people didn't think it was going to happen. Well, you know what? If you go for the king, you better not miss and when you miss. Anyway, today we have an amazing lineup, and I want to start off by pushing it over to one of my favorite Tim Pool crew members. Oh, that's really sweet of you, George. Thank you. Chris Carr, writer, journalist, editor, and the proud father of two boys. Thanks for having me on your show, George. Oh, yeah, sure. And I also am so excited because tonight we have somebody who essentially self-identifies as Kyle Serafins' work husband. And I'm going to let him do his own introduction. But we have Kyle Serafins work husband here with us.

That's right. Steve Fran, face of the franchise, the Suspendables, FBI whistleblower, recovering FBI agent, host of the American Radicals podcast. and you follow me at Real Steve Friend on X. There you go. Thanks for being here. Do you need an introduction? That's Scott Pressler, guys. I prefer the indefatigable Scott Pressler. Oh, my God.

Thanks for giving me that. Call to be here, Georgie. And hopefully after tonight, I will be an elected official in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. I am now an author coming out on June 9th and the founder, of course, of early vote action. Did you just plug a book randomly? Where did you pull it from? It's in inventory. He came prepared.

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Carter Banks, and yeah, thank you for all coming tonight. The most stylish member of Tim I agree. Like, bar none. Yeah. Bar none. Nobody, nobody has that.

Like, last time I was here, you got like, Cheetah. That's true. I was, I almost wore the same shirt today. I was like, George will be here again. But like, same shirt. He also got tape. Yeah, what's going on, everyone? Yeah, I don't, I'm not running for office.

I don't know many books. I'm just like a chud. No, stupid chud. Just going to Scott's bag. I have my books in there. I'm a New York Times best seller? What? Plug something from like Scott's bag.

Like, oh, look, there's another book. Let's get into it. Let's get into it. All right. So, guys, this is crazy, right? Like, Thomas Massey, I worked with Thomas. Thomas is somebody that actually I went to a lot on the House floor for guidance, especially when we were talking like fiscal stuff.

I would go in and be like, Thomas, my staff says vote yes. I see you voted no. Can you give me the rationale? Many, many times he'd give me like an elevator pitch. Like, here's why this is bad. And it would always tie back to fiscal conservative ideology, which many times, I mean, in numerous times, I went and switched the recommendation for my staff. I'd go back into my office, like, boss, what happened?

I'm like, and then my L.D. and my chief of staff are like, did you talk to Congress, Mr. Massey? I'm like, yeah, he's pretty on it. And they're like, oh, no, sir, we told leadership you were going to vote. Yay. I'm like, well, I voted nay. And then they'd get reamed by leadership staff. Like, what happened?

Your boss changes vote? And they would say, like, Massey got to him. So it's crazy because I have a great. relationship with him. I mean, I don't understand some of the choices he made that, you know, you make your bed and now you sleep in it. What's your take on this state? Yeah, I mean, I agree. I mean, look, Massey, I really liked him for a long time, but I got, yeah, to your point, increasingly frustrated with some of the decisions he made. I mean, the hamstring, the big, beautiful bill was pretty frustrating. But you kind of understand, to your point, I mean, this physical

conservative, he's a libertarian. So, I mean, these sort of things you have to expect, he's part of that kind of Ron Paul mafia that. Justin Amash, Ron Paul. They're gone. They're extinct. So I think the takeaway from tonight is that that whole crew is being kind of wiped out from GOP politics. In addition to that, I mean, look, Massey, I think made a critical mistake, which he could have stitched together a really interesting coalition with his hitting really hard on APEC, hitting really hard on the Israel lobby and that sort of thing. If he would have stayed loyal to President Trump, he could have weaved a really specific line that could have really moved the ball down the field when he came out and he started saying Trump is protecting the Epstein class or whatever. I was like, it's over. It's cooked. plenty of conservatives do exactly what you just said, by the way.

Exactly. I was one of them, right? Like, so many can do it. Like, they weave that, like, crooked line of, like, A, A, PRAC, bad, President Trump good. And you just kind of, like, do that. Like, and I never did, like, A, A, Pact. I'm not a big fan of AAC because I was partial to the RJC, which is a Republican Jewish

coalition. Some would argue same stuff, you know, two, separate wings of two wings to the same bird. But, like, that was kind of, like, just, like, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, for him. He was so obsessed with the APAC and he made his entire identity recently. Yeah, it's just, and I agree with him on the, you know, vast majority of the, you don't have babysitters from APAC. He made that. Sure, yeah, yeah. But, you know, as far as like, the, you know, the broader themes there, like I do agree with. But yeah, that's what was so frustrating is, like, I think he made a miscalculation where he thought the anti-Trump energy was going to be a lot

larger and manifest and much more voters than it actually was. I think that constituency is a lot smaller than people realize within the GOP for a variety of reasons. One being people don't realize that Twitter is not reflective of the GOP base. And so far as the GOP base is primarily like boomers. And again, boomers have no tolerance of this kind of stuff. I don't know if you guys saw the tweet that just went up. Hassan, you know, Hassan Piker puts out a tweet saying Trump has, you know, sided with the Epstein class, da da da da da da da da to take out Thomas Massey.

Todd Piker's not a real person. I know. But the thing is the average GOP voter is going, when they hear that kind of rhetoric from Massey, they think Saan Piker. They think that type of leftist. And so that's the problem. There's no room for nuance in this environment. That's the problem that we're in.

There's a friend enemy distinction. Thomas Massey fell right in the square of it. And yeah, he lost his seat. I mean, look, it's crazy. Scott, you're all over the country, right? You're campaigning all over the country. You're on the ballot tonight, which is wild. But let's talk about this for a second.

Did you see this coming? Was there? And again, I'm not trying to put you in a bad position, but did you think he can, you know, overcome the enormous, of funds and you know how important funds are in politics, right? Do you think he can overcome that because of 12 years, six terms being in the house? I wasn't sure what was going to happen tonight because I know how protective our beautiful libertarian coalition is of their very small minority in Congress.

They will do everything to protect them. Minority of one. But I think this solidifies President Trump as the titular figurehead of the president. party. Big words today. Right here after Indiana, state senators falling that failed to redistrict. After Bill Cassidy, Donald Trump endorsed losing third as an incumbent senator in Louisiana. And now tonight after Thomas Massey losing, any Republican that was going to make the argument that President Trump would be a lame dot. Oh, no, that's out the door. Or that they would be waning on him. No, President Trump has just asserted himself as he is the party.

And you either go along with the president or you are probably going to lose your seat or get ousted. Agreed. Steve. I go back to the Epstein stuff. Really? Look. In a pro or are you justifying this? Well, just from my rationality of who's voting versus the online space, I think when it comes to Epstein, you have the announcement, the sort of the stealth announcement that the DOJ and the FBI are not going to look at it anymore. We're closing it down.

And that was over July 4th of last year. Over the July 4th weekend, nobody paying attention. I think nobody paying attention to that is sort of reflective of what the actual voter base is. Because what you wind up happening is essentially amnesia over that versus the online space where it is top of mind for so many people. If you go into a social media post, anything that you see that is coming from an FBI or from the president, something will be the immediate comment section that you see in there is, yeah, but what about the client list? Yeah, there's been zero arrests with that.

and that is just the echo chamber versus what the actual people that are at there are getting out the early vote. Yeah. And we just have, if you're in the chronically online space, you will have a different perspective of what the actual lay of the land, what the battlefield conditions are. And that was over heightened, overhyped as far as what the impact was going to be on the election. I mean, I've said this many times, and I think Tim has said this many times here from this same perch. Twitter is not the real world. it's not it's like it's insane people run their campaigns off of like a great example of this not to go too far off of spencer pratt people are thinking like he's going to win l a guys let's look at the numbers of voters and registrations in l a

there is no mathematical i mean look i i i believe in wishful thinking and possibility but i mean you know so you know chris i like you because you you always say i'm an anarchist i don't care yeah i mean this is reason, you know, 4,598, why I don't believe in democracy. You know, the whole idea that people's voices matter. I don't believe in that. People are too stupid to vote. The people in my home state of Kentucky are definitely too stupid to vote, not a very bright population. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't know that. Yeah, so this is especially dismaying for me. I mean, I had some sort of misfounded hope against hope that Massey might be able to galvanize people, but, you know, obviously that's not going to happen. People are easily propagandized,

and that's what happened in the bluegrass state today. I think we of all people are dumber than the average person. Oh, I would say even more. Because of the space that we live in now. And because of what you were saying, like, when you're chronically online, you do gradually lose touch with what's really happening. And since President Trump won in 2024, I think voting has become less cool. Like, a lot of people just want to kick back and let, you know, let things play out as they are. So do we know at all what the demographics are? Did boomers make this happen? No, it's too early. It's too early to know. They were the early voters. That's not necessarily. The polling would indicate that the younger it got, the more pro-Massie.

Yeah, like, oh, sure. So anybody ranking, from what I saw, 18 to 45 was pro-Massie and everybody 45-plus was anti-Massie. Look, Thomas had, has, and he didn't die, guys. This is just over his congressional career is over. He's alive. So let's not talk in the past. That's crazy.

Massey has this very interesting take on how he approaches things. and it's really like, I don't care. No, no, no, no. And not that he doesn't care, but he puts that nonchalant, like, I don't care approach out there. And people get over fatigued. I mean, look,

I have seen Massey hold up the house floor more than one time. I actually lived it. So that grows old, right? Well, this is what happens when you have a politician that consistently votes on principle, you know, for better or worse,

and tonight it's for worse. You know, this is what happens. I mean, eventually those decisions all come to haunch. I mean, I'm going to make an observation. I'm probably going to get like a check for this one. It's like we replace him for a guy older than him. Whatever happened to new leadership. I think Massey would fall more into the camp of people that got thrown around by the algorithm because I think this is a guy who was stitching together a really impressive congressional career. And then again, as soon as the online atmosphere turned on Trump, which was just again,

not really reflected in the populace in the electorate. Like, yes, a large chunk of the electorate is frustrated at the Iran War. That is coming up in the polling. We know these things. And so far, is that enough for them to come out and declare Trump as like a pedophile protector? No. They hate him and he's betrayed them. No, that's just not reflected in any polling. But Thomas Massey, I think, was seeing the energy online. So if you were purely on Twitter, you would assume that Trump has an 80% disapproval rate in the GOP.

But it's just not going to be reflected. And unfortunately, when you're running for the House, you got to play politics. You got to play ball. You got to pick your battles. Yeah, but here's what's crazy. It's like, how many millions went into this race? an obscene amount. 60 million or something like that that I read?

The New York Post had it. Essentially getting a candidate in there in a safe Republican seat that is going to get you somebody who goes with the Donald Trump preferred outcomes. It's not about the Donald Trump. It's about the agenda, right? So look, we were sitting in here a couple of minutes ago. And Scott and I, for this was off camera, we hit the 50% mark and Massey was down eight points. And I'm not gloating. I'm just making an observation.

And there's a rule in politics. Once you hit 50% of the votes in, and if you're down eight points, it is mathematically highly improbable to overcome that. And we hit that point. I said, it's over, but nobody called it, whatever. And then a few minutes later, I guess they called it decision desk. It is unconscionable to see so much money being poured into a safe Republican seat. I understand the principle behind it.

I'm not criticizing it. But I'm just making an observation. We have 19 vulnerable Republicans this cycle that will need that money. Then we have the idiot in the Senate, Thune, who won't pass a SAVE Act, who won't fund DHS entirely because he caves to the Democrats. And on top of that, he spent somewhat $70 million between Cassidy and Cornyn, who is now based on tonight, Cornyn is going to lose. I mean, why do we keep donating to John Thune? Like, why is John Thune still leader of the Senate? It's like wild.

The reason why I think ultimately Ed Gellerine is declared the victory is there was a sense of urgency for this election. Yes, we have principles of we don't want to go into endless wars. And I understand that. And we definitely want to continue to support our libertarians. We have kept the promise of being pro-crypto, pro-Bitcoin. We've freed Ross Ulbricht. We have kept our promises to that community. However, we understand that if the midterms don't go our way, they will impeach President Trump on day one.

His entire agenda is stalled. That means that there's going to be no funding for securing the border, for DHS, for ICE. And so I think for a lot of people, if I can speak for them, they came out because they knew this was about winning 2026, codifying into law, President Trump's agenda. Otherwise, gosh, forbid, we could lose this upcoming midterm and then have a Governor Newsom as president. president or a Kamala Harris, et cetera. There was an urgency to codify into law President Trump's agenda. Dude, it's, it's sick. Let me just make this clear. 32.6 million dollars went towards political ad spending. It's, it's like, do you know how many vulnerable races we can help with that? It's like probably easy, like spitballing off top of my head, six, you know, $5 million in each of

them. And it makes a difference. Like sometimes it's like that one more broadcast ad you needed, you know, just to act the finish line. I remember. this in 2022. Esther Joy King in Illinois lost to the gay weatherman Eric Swarrenson because she ran short of money and couldn't do one last push and then she lost by like 400 votes.

Like that little boost. That little boost. I mean, she literally lost to a man who campaigned about being the gay weatherman. I was the first gay weatherman in America. Like, dude, shut up. That was your campaign. And Esther Joy King, who is a veteran, lost to him because of stuff like this.

What we saw in the VA redistricting, I mean, the GOP threw pennies over in that direction. I live in Virginia. I was getting flooded with Obama ads, et cetera, et cetera. Now they got bailed out by the courts, but I'm not going to sit here and pretend like the GOP was playing 5D chess. No, they were. They got lucky. They got lucky. They got bailed out. But in addition to that, I mean, I think what we're seeing here is converging interests. So I think the MAGA interest, and then there was the Israel interest, obviously. A lot of this money, as people pointed out, came from the Israel lobby. But I don't think the average voter was going to the ballot boxes if there was a referendum on the Iran War or a referendum on

like our support for Israel. It was a referendum ultimately on the Trump agenda. Yes. The Trump agenda is very popular, whether people like it or not. Especially in rural Kentucky. This district is like, look, rural America likes President Trump. I don't think people need to, like, you don't need to be a rocket scientist to know this, right? Personality driven.

It's not even just personality driven. It's literally promises made promises kept to rule America. Well, I mean, promises kept seriously. I mean, like, I mean, over the course of his presidential career, he's kept to rule. a lot of promises to rule America. Oh, okay. All right. I don't know about lately, but.

Yeah, to push back on inflation and legal alien immigration issues. I mean, he's been, that's one in one A as far as 2024. President Trump's been amazing on illegal immigration. Sealed the border. What we're at a point now. So let's connect it even to like a John Thune, right? See if I can, if I can noodle this through with you. Noodle.

So John Thune is going to make the case. Don't say noodle to me. That's not a smart decision. gay man. Just understand. We're going to cut the broadcast here in a little bit. We're probably very mature.

I'm sorry. Don't say that. It's a family show. God, damn it. It's like Bourbon Street, dude. What's going on? I want to know what you were going to say.

John Newton's going to make the case. You need to vote for the Republicans to hold the Senate so that we can secure elections, even though you voted for the Republicans to take the Senate so that they could secure elections and they didn't. And simultaneously, I'm going to fund DHS to slightly codify what the agenda was in the Trump campaign 2024. Meanwhile, what he's essentially done is not fund ICE, not fund border protection, and create a giant slush fund for a president, American psycho Gavin Newsom to come in and run that for the next.

Gavin Newsom will never be president. I'm sorry. But I will state my existence on that one. He will never be president. Okay. So if he's not going to be president, then who, what Democrat is going to be president? Honestly, AOC has so many more chances for being president than Gavin. Really?

I believe. I believe. I mean, I, I've made a piece with myself that there will be a president aOC in my lifetime. And to quote Alex Stein, we're going to have a big, beautiful, booty Latina president eventually. She's a fundraising jugger. Nothing wrong with that. She's a fundraising fundraising juggernaut for Congress. She's actually better off for them there. I worked with her. I actually dealt with her personally, where both from New York, our districts match up to each other.

And there were instances where I needed to work with her. And we, you know, from touring the Capitol with students from the district and the school kind of overlap. So half of the students lived in her district but attended the school. I would have paid to be able to her. We did that. Like, we did that, you know? And she graciously said yes to me. And it was a breeze to work with her.

And you couldn't get two more different people. Like I am all the way to the right. She's all the way to the left. And we had a great cordial relationship. I actually recently bumped into her in a Delta flight to D.C. And I was just like, she was like, what are you doing back in D.C.? Like, this place is awful. I'm like, you know what?

I had to come and see your drip because she was like impeccably dressed. I'm like, I just checking out your drip. And she's like, thank you. It's like, that's literally my life now, guys. So you weren't holding hands singing Kumbaya where you were advocating for no Amazon jobs in your district? No. No, that was a big doozy on her part. Like she killed 17,000 jobs.

she nuked 17,000 jobs. She wore a sweet dress that said, you know, soak the rich. It's drip or drown out here, I mean, you know. It is what it is. Or sink or swim, right? Yeah, yeah, it's dripper drown. You've got to be stunning in Congress.

It's over for you. Well, I actually just did a video on that. It's real. The 10 hottest members of Congress. Halo effect is real, by the way. It is. I'm so surprised by this heterodox take from you, George. So would you describe AOC as conniving?

I would say she, conniving is a derogatory Not in politics I would say that like in terms of being a conniving politician Gavin Newsom beats her pound for pound Like I disagree that that's going to drive him with the personality I don't think he's conniving I think he's arrogant I think he's that word to describe Gavin Newsom

Arrogent he's preposterous He is absolutely all about self-aggrandizing When you have aOC who believe it or not I've said this many times I don't believe she is corrupt. I think she is fundamentally insane. But I don't think she's corrupt. She's not dishonest.

She's the proper adjective is she's cut through. She's a polo- Gavin Newsom will back off of policies all the time. It happens all the time. She won't tape. AOC just plows through. Every single time people in the Republican press are like, oh, she's finished now.

And then she keeps winning, keeps growing in support. Not only that. He's a better thespian. I'll use some Pressler language here. She's a better actress than Newsom is. I mean, Newsom, Newsom will sit there up in front of a black audience and say, I'm just like you and I'm functionally retarded and an illiterate. And then back off, I guess, whereas she'll actually pull off the Jenny from the block.

I agree with George. I think she's alarmingly consistent. She's consistent. Dude, she believes in eliminating farting cows. I wouldn't be shocked if she's the one getting ticks, has a tick farm. Somewhere just like, go make people meet anaphylactic. Release the ticks. She can just take where she's at up to a 10 better than he has because I don't, I think he's sort of like.

She's smart. She's articulate. Gavin Newsom is a slimy, used car salesman. He thinks he can throw a dart and then draw a target around it. No, no, no, no. He thinks that. But I also think I'm a 10 in New York City. It's like, Scott, like, let me ask you this on the subject of.

So what do you think is next or Massey? Do you think he has a way to survive and do a comeback? like Senate, maybe, governor? Well, I want to revisit why there was so much spending in this race, which I think people are really losing sight of. Yes, it was obscene. But this was sending a message. This says, get on the train, support the agenda, or we are coming for you.

And as I mentioned, Indiana, we won six of the eight Republicans that wouldn't redraw maps. Gone. Bill Cassidy, gone. Thomas Massey, gone. And this is sending a message to every other member of Congress. And that's why there was so much money poured into it. They weren't running at Gala Rine to lose. They were running to send a message.

Yeah, what did you see, Rand Paul on Twitter? He shut his mouth real quick. He was like, yeah, President Trump, I'm ready to rubber stamp everything you'd say. Like, dude, everyone is freaking out right now. You know, Rand Paul was a cool guy, but I thought that was really funny. All of a sudden, he was like, I'm not a libertarian. What are you talking about? Well, and clearly...

He's a libertarian. He's like, I'm ready to rubber stamp anything. It's like saying Carter's not a rock star. So I guess, uh, speaking right now, and I'm going to pull up... Oh, please. What he's got to say. Let's see.

Possibly. Being nice doesn't work. I did that for four months trying to meet with members of Congress. Let me unmute the tab real quick. And it got really expensive for him. Look, um, They used a lot of dirty tricks, but we stayed the course. We did not.

We didn't bend a knee. We didn't throw a foul ball. We didn't do any of those things. We didn't kneecap anybody. We had lots of opportunities to try a lot of stuff like that, and we never did it. We ran a clean race. By the way, after 18 months of a blackout of not letting me on Fox, They finally let me on Fox today, four hours into the election.

Their slop is selling, so they'll keep selling it. But listen, I got to watch Fox also for the first time in 18 months. And there was the president talking about, by the way, while gas is almost $5 and diesel's almost six, they're talking about this big ballroom they're going to build. And it looks like the Roman Empire. architecture from the Roman Empire. I see a few analogies there, and people are just trying to make ends meet. But we were promised that Miriam Adelson would pay for that ballroom. But she spent so much money in this race, they're going to have to reduce the footprint of that thing. But here's one thing I saw in Fox.

They were saying, oh my goodness, you know, we're ready for war. We're about to restart this war. We were supposed to restart this war. We were supposed to restart this war today, but we can't restart this war today. The war can't start today. They said we got away today. And then it occurred to me. Where was the Secretary of War yesterday? He was here. Listen.

Look on the bright side. No. Knock that off. You're going to make me feel good about losing. What I wanted to do was give you all credit. When they saw the influencers here, they panicked. They sent the Secretary of War here, and you stopped the war for a day.

That's funny. We don't want a war, and we know why young people are, and middle-aged people are against the next war, because we'd be the ones fighting it. They're trying to bring back the draft. Screw that. We're not going to fight. We're not going to fight some other country's wars, are we?

No. No. What else do we stand for? We don't want to send our money overseas. Okay, I'll go for that. Yeah, I know exactly. I'm good with that and the Fed. He was talking about Iran.

Oh, is it, and I ran or end the Fed? That's what I heard, yeah. I also got a bill to end the ed in the Department of Education. We're good with that too. Rand Paul says he wants to pass a law that you need one day, to read 10 pages of every bill. I ask Rand, what are you going to do about my bill that's one sentence long to end the Department of Education? That'd be like five minutes to read that bill.

By the way, do you know how many pages you have to seem false transparency act was? Two pages. Every good bill technically shouldn't. The less pages of bill has, the better than the bill is he's not wrong. Every bill that entire will collapse. It is a crop money on that entire country. I never picked a fight with the country that's tried to take me out here because I've never but I've never voted for foreign aid to any country

we got to take care of America first America first it's a pretty chad crowd like it's a lot of dude it's really young that's what's concerning though like that there was me a little remember that organization that Klaus Schwab started called the World Economic Forum Of course he's bring up. Paul Schwab. He said, you should eat bugs. Do you want to eat bugs?

Is there a drinking game somewhere? Fed, W.F. You want to do that? We should have bought alcohol. Well, guess what happened? Guess what happened to tell us the CEO. He'd be done. He was in the Epstein files.

He had to resign. We took out, we took out the CEO of the World Economic Forum with a two-page bills. We've always did. 30 minutes into the show and beyond the floor. What else are we for? Look, for years I've been standing up for the Second Amendment, the First Amendment, Fourth Amendment, the Fifth Amendment, the Fifth Amendment, the Tenth Amendment. I just realized the Seventh Amendment is under attack. It's because I serve on the Judiciary Committee.

The Seventh Amendment is your right to a jury trial. They've taken it away for vaccines. If you get hurt, you can't sue for vaccines. They're trying to take it away for pesticides. They're trying to take it away for these data centers. No. Make a shot. Yeah.

We've been fighting that back. So, I mean, is he going to talk about raw milk? Is raw milk coming? We're going to investigate UFO. We need to keep fighting. Buying beef in your neighbor. That's coming. Chinese farmland, Bill Gates.

JBS. JBS. JBS is totally coming out. What else is part of our. coalition, cutting doge, cutting spending. Oh, cutting spending, balancing the budget. They ran Doge out of town. The national debt, that's all coming.

It's all on a pipeline. It's boilerplate for him. It was easier to get a car to drive itself. It was easier to put internet on Antarctica than it was to cut. I think he's rambling now. Yeah. Oh, we can. In Washington, D.C.

It's a tough problem. You lost me with internet and that. That sounds awesome. The penguins are in the stream now? You know, dude, I know Tom, he's sad. Like when he first started that, when we first started streaming it, he looked almost teary-eyed. I mean, this dude was very proud to be a congressman.

He's a MIT geek. Actually, Massey. Here's a fun, Massey story. He actually created a debt watch clock. Oh, I remember that. Off of roof, roofing material. Yeah. It's like, he's like, oh, yeah, this is just, you know, it's a,

like the simplest way an MIT guy would say this. He's like, oh, this is just like, you know, an Amazon regular clock. I just reprogrammed it. Inserted a chip. So it links to the Fed and the Wi-Fi card. And it updates every 30 seconds. I'm like, Massey. But then when the kid built one, then Obama got an invite.

He invited him to the White House. Pretty much. So I'm just like, Massey, how'd you turn the clock into the net watch? He's like a Fini and Furb kind of guy. Very. He's building contraptions in his back yard. I'm like, what's going on? He's like, oh, this is just a rollercoaster.

He's like, oh, this is just a roofing material and an Amazon, like $5 clock. And then he made an entire lineup. He mass produced them and gave them to members so people would walk around with a debt clock. Look, he's way too intelligent and impressive to be a politician. So I hope that he has a nice career outside. I thought you would say that about me. I wish. Oh, of course.

But we're not talking about you, Drew. I'm just for the after show, baby. Down boy. Before I take you in the back of the bar like cricket. Let's go. Not joking. I'm not joking. I know.

These are getting wacky and wild. We're worse off to not have just the one voice being there pointing out these things. Even if he didn't, if it was a minority of one. He's not, that's not true though, right? You still have David Warren's, Warren there,

who actually was campaigning with him. You have other, like, Dan Schweiker out of Arizona. I mean, yeah. Well, half these guys are dead hawks.

but they never actually are able to do anything about it. They're not, but I will say this. If you want a very interesting, like, set of thought process, I encourage you to go to Congress.gov and watch a... Nobody ever. No, no, but please listen to this. Watch a David Schweigart case on how obese people cost us afforded. Oh, yeah, that's true.

On Medicaid and Medicare. He is so fatphobic about it. He's blatant. He's like, take fat amy and he goes and starts talking about how much fat amy and her fat kids are going to cause us i'm like you can't say that he says this on the record but again a little more eloquently but he he breaks it down that is the epitome of fiscal hon that i met with the fat lobby went after like the fat lobby should McDonald's lobby just go after him like excuse me what do you mean

we should put ebt eligible McDonald's It's crazy. Look, on the subject of elections, elections are getting so gnarly these days. I mean, we have, you're neck of the woods in Pennsylvania. Things out really interesting in Lehigh Valley. It looks like an unknown explosive device thrown from a vehicle near PA polling location, state police say. Looks like earlier today, Kadaswaka. I'm probably botching that. That's in the Lehigh Valley area. it looks like you have a situation where explosive device was thrown at a church, which was also a polling site. Like, what goes on in your neck of the woods, Scott?

It's why I push early voting. You never know what could happen on election day. Explosions and all not excluded, apparently now. Well, we've had pipe bursts. We've had snowstorms. We've had machines go down on election. day and now we have explosives at churches. And when it comes to the establishment or people in power trying to keep that power, they will stop at nothing in order to do so. But I have to mention it,

I just, I have to say this because I know people are going to see this. The values and principles that Massey was talking about are not a departure from we and Republicans believe. We want Doge. We voted for Elon. We support that. We support ending the Fed, ending the Department of Educations, So a lot of the things that he's talking about, we don't want endless wars. But I think it really means that if we're not able to always legislate at the federal level, we need more people to become state representatives. We have a state legislature in Kentucky, despite the governor, that they can actually get things done at the state level. I think we need a rise of people running at the state level to codify this agenda in the Commonwealths across the country.

In the Commonwealth? What about the other states? Massachusetts, Kentucky. No, no, I know that, but what about the other states? Do you see what I did there? Because I actually know there are four common. Yeah, I was going to say that's only four them. It's Pennsylvania, Massachusetts, Virginia, and Kentucky. Okay, and the states. You're happy. Okay, yeah. Like, don't exclude everyone else.

The Empire State, the Garden State. We're worth saving. I mean, dude, it's just so crazy. I'm going to talk about something that's happening right now, which is the whole redistricting and try to go a little off topic. It's not news of the day, but I think it's worth mentioning. Anytime somebody looks at you and says, oh, this is immoral what they're doing in the South, just remind them of New England. It's like Republicans have zero seats in New England for as long as I can remember.

I can't remember the last time Connecticut or Massachusetts had a Republican congressperson. Massachusetts, I think 45% of it voted for Donald Trump. I think Connecticut, 42%. New Hampshire was it 48. percent or something like that. He won in 2016 in New Hampshire, didn't he? I don't remember. I think you did.

We had, I mean... I don't remember, honest. Scott Brown got elected. No, he came very close. When Ted Kennedy died in office, they did elect Scott Brown. So there is a Republican presence in... They had Charlie Baker, which one. They had Charlie Baker, which was...

They had Mitt Romney. I mean... Conservative Firebrand. I mean, don't speak to me of Romney. Do not speak to me of Pierre Delecto, because he's not very Mormon. The way he behaved with me Was it very Mormon of him Hot dogs are his favorite meat

I believe that And he piled them on Let's go How many hot dogs can I put in my mouth at once? Like Oh I'm supposed to vote in like an hour Oh I got a bite down now

No so look Serious stuff I don't want to make light of this Folks Don't throw bombs at polling sites This is still, we're trying to do democracy here one way or another. I mean, don't, don't, I don't get it. I'll say this to my far left anarchist brothers and sisters out there. Leave the churches alone.

Maybe put down the explosive devices. I understand your fervor and your anger, but please, no violence. I don't get the violence. I'm a nonviolent person, and I know a lot of my friends are very violent. I'm just like, can we stop with the violence? I know, like the younger generations like Tate, their hot heads. I'm elder millennial here. Like, let's be, you know,

whosa. And that's when, like, half the subscribers are going to, like, nuke me off this show today. What do you mean? You don't want to destroy it? What do you mean? Tim says get fired and angry.

Like, what's this guy talking about? Weapons of mass destruction and voting are, like, peanut burn jelly, right? Yeah, I don't know about that. I don't know what kind of peanut butter and jelly's end, what you mean? You got to stop hanging out with Kyle Serafin. I'm sorry.

Like, that's terrible. combo. He's my Simon to my Garfunkel. That's where we are. You can't get one without the other. Hopefully I am Garfunkel, so ride those coattails, baby. I'm pushing you, man. I'm trying. I'm going to bite my tongue now. This is a PG-13

at best show. All right. So let's end the, I guess, wave of elections. The N-A-CP is urging athletes, fans to boycott over voting rights. to South. Oh, that's going to work real. This is going to be loads of fun for them. I mean,

I've never seen a more diabolical, self-destructive approach to something. Like, Commons, Carter, out there? Your face has everything. Oh, I'm just, uh, keep going. Keep going. Well, I mean, they actually succeeded with this. What was it, Georgia, like eight years ago. No one cares anymore. Like, it's so obvious that even the Democrat Party, because they know that the demographics of their coalition is changing, that, like, black voters are just becoming increasingly less prioritized in the Democrat coalition because, again, like the voter rights act, that is the erosion of sort of the black power within the Democrat Party. The Democrats kind of realize like things are moving on. Rap is like down on the charts. Like no one cares anymore,

like this kind of stuff. No one cares anymore. So you're just seeing a massive shift in like the way American politics were like black voters being able to punch above their weight is really starting to die off now. According to Derek Johnson, the president of the NACP, across the south, black athletes have helped build some of the most profitable college athletes programs in America. Okay. I'm sure the five-star recruit that's going to go to Alabama is going to recommit and go to Howard now. Yeah, I'm sure that's going to happen. I'm sure Harvard's going to have a great team.

Yeah, yeah. They would have had a little bit more strength of the argument a few years ago before they started paying the athletes exorbitant amount of money, right? Would it just be for school pride or to represent some sort of misguided? I feel like that's sour grapes from your alma matter, because you know who started that, right? Have you noticed nobody in the South's award a national championship since they outwardly started to pay players? I think it's heavily in the South. It is heavily in the South, but it did start in Notre Dame. We've got Jesus.

Jesus is not approving of the ethics of your Alamatter. Oh, man, that's bad. All right. So, I don't know. I didn't even, I don't know. I don't know if the NWACP is real an arbitrator of anything relevant left. I mean, they're pretty relevant now. I mean, like to my point, I mean, they're not going to be able to succeed here.

If they tried to pull another like bully the All-Star game out of a state, just no one cares anymore. And the Democrat party, like I said, their coalition has changed massively. Now they're, they're depending on like newer immigrant arrivals and their diaspora. They're just not, they're, the black population in America is just no longer able to punch above its weight politically anymore. So the NACP's relevance is just completely. fading away. And you're even seeing black voters now defect to the Republican Party and

increasing numbers. So there's just, they're a cause without a constituency now because there's nothing in it for the Democrats to like work in conjunction with the NAACP. I'm very mad at a comment I just saw here. Sorry, I completely know. No, it's Scott Pressler gets a pass, but anyone else know with the gays like, okay, whatever, Scott. I shouldn't have sent that. That was. And by the way, like, a screw. me, right? Like, I fly all the way here and it's like, no, Tate's holding down to Ford and everyone else can leave.

Let's go. Who's that? You know what? Come here. Take over. Like, I'm leaving. I don't read the comments. Well, George gets a past two. Yeah, my Venmo head. Is your mom like super chatty right now? I treated it like the K-Y-O-4. I was just dumping money in the comments. Everyone glazed me.

Well, look, I got a story. I don't necessarily disagree with the premise. It's no different than parents who disagree with public school education pulling their students out and homeschooling them. If they choose to align their values with that of California in Illinois over southern states, well, they are welcome to go to other schools. I don't necessarily disagree with it.

I just don't think it's going to make the impact that they think it is going to. Yeah. And the impact on sports watchers who would think the crossover, I mean, between sports bro and a political nerd is the Venn diagram is something that Kamala Harris would be confused by because they don't really understand. And this idea that these college athletes

are going to be like principal all of a sudden they transfer every season now. Like none of them are going to be like thinking about this at all. They don't have any political consciousness typically. So why? They transfer every year but now they're going to like dig their heels and be like actually I'm going to go to Iowa now. It's like what? What are you talking about? I don't know. Look

they all want to be on that podium with that famous picture with the hand in the air. I just never, I don't get the appeal of the whole thing. Like the whole like sports. No, no, no, no. Of sports, I get it. No, no, no. Time out.

Time out. No. I get the appeal of sports. I don't get the appeal of the NDACP thinking that they're going to arbitrate anything. Like any black athlete that listens to this, it's the most self-sabotaging advice I've ever seen in an organization give their athletes. Like, dude, keep politics out of professional sports out of everything. Politics has, for some reason, people now live with this overall. arching belief that politics runs every industry and everything that they believe in.

And it's so self-defeating. You see people like literally implode their careers because you want to be political activists. Like I have so many beliefs that I put aside because I work in entertainment now. And if I'm going to survive in entertainment, I can't allow my politics to rule the way I operate, right? Like you do what you got to do. Like I'm 90% of the time in a set with a bunch of liberal. people. And you know what? It's okay. That's fine. We're here working. We're not here to debate

politics. If I'm going to debate policy with someone, I'll run for office again and go debate it on the House floor, right? It's like, it's dumb. It's, it's very, very, very self-destructive. And people are fatigued with it. They have been for just over politics. So, yeah. So talking about politics, uh, Trump today. Trump today in a bombshell endorses Ken Paxson over John Cornyn. Now, I will say this. You're flexing there for those of you didn't see it. Do it again. Scott, show us. Come on, do it. Show us your spaghetti arms. That was a, if you didn't catch it. It's never happy. Give it. He was flexing his spaghetti arms and all of a sudden like a penny bumped up here. So, um, dude, did you expect this? I was hopeful. But did you expect it? No. I did.

Because it was already the second day of early voting. Early voting had already begun. And it's funny because yesterday, John Cornyn had given comment to Axio saying, yeah, I don't think, and something along, I'm paraphrasing, I don't think Trump's endorsing me. That ship has sailed. The fact that he said that yesterday, he had to have been given at least a courtesy of like, hey, we're endorsing Baxter. Yeah. He knew something. Well, I think Paxton pulled off one of the most stunning political maneuvers I think I've ever seen, which was, if you guys recall a few few months ago. He said, hey, I'll drop out of this race if the SAVE Act passes. I mean, Scott, you could probably break down what specifically what happened here. No, that was monumental.

So here we have a sitting attorney general running for Senate when we have a Senate not passing the Save America Act, which 84% of Americans want. And he goes, all drop out if the Senate prioritizes passing the Save America Act. Imagine Senator Cornyn could have prevented. this endorsement right here and now, have you just called Senate Majority Leader Thune? And it shows, and I'm going to be nice and respectful because I still want to work with these people, but I really think it shows the bubble,

the narcissism, the ego of Washington, D.C., thinking that they know better than the American people, and furthermore, that they don't have to act, they don't have to pass legislation, and they'll continue to get elected for 24 years, not be able to run on that record and they know that just the power of the incumbency will get them in

every six years over and over again. Yeah, and to Trump's massive credit, he's not getting enough credit because, you know, the common talking point in conservative media is, oh, Trump is terrible endorsements. And, like, yes, he makes some really terrible endorsements. I'm not here saying he has, like, a stunning record.

Who? But... Are you serious? There's been some... Come on, give me one terrible endorsement. I mean... Thera Palin? There's a few rough ones.

But to my point here is that Trump is the first president since FDR in 1938 to endorse challengers to incumbents in Senate races. That's completely unprecedented in American politics. So there's this talking point again that people say, oh, he's just universally bad in endorsements. And it's like Trump actually, this is extremely impressive. And he should be getting massive credit for this is, again, he's willing to go to bat in these races to clean house.

What did FDR do in 1938? Why did FDR try to clean house? though, do you remember? Because he deemed that the Southern Democrats had too much power in the Democrat Party. So he said, let's clean house. He was unsuccessful. But President Trump is quite successful at doing it. So we've seen this is scalping's left and right in this last election cycle. So Trump should actually be getting massive credit here that, again, he is bucking this trend. He's setting an entirely new precedent. This is unbelievable what we've seen here. Again, unthinkable that he would endorse Ken Paxson, and unthinkable that he'd weigh in on the

Cassidy race. And he's not getting the credit. Again, people will nitpick, and fair enough on some bad endorsements. But this is unbelievable. This is not something a president has done in what 80 years. And even before, I mean, that was purely ideological. I mean, this is unbelievable what's going on here. Question for Scott on this one. I mean, out of my depth in this one, this would be kind of in your lane. Could this be John Thune not pushing forward the SAVE Act, him essentially saying there's no difference between a Ken Paxton and a John Korn? No, I don't think he's saying that at all. No, and I don't mean that in any other way than I watched the presser today of Senate Majority Leader Thune up there with Cotton and Barrasso and Capito, basically his leadership, and they're all, in my opinion, very squishy Republicans. And he said he disagrees with the president's endorsement. He's still polling for John Cornyn. So no, what we have to realize is the Senate only cares about one thing, self-preservation and protecting the power of the incumbents,

the incumbents are. They will never support an outsider. They want to protect their own. They are only in that business. And no, I think there is a huge difference between Paxton and Cornyn and Thune right now was the last to hear about this. He was blindsided by this, which shows he's probably extremely nervous. He just lost Cassidy. He's going to lose Cornyn. And I make a commitment right here and now. If Senate Majority Leader Thune does not give us the Save America Act this cycle this year, we will primary him in 2028. And I make a commitment to that. I mean, it absolutely has to happen. Because again, the Save Act, I mean, looks like beating a dead horse. But you even have like Democrats that are like, yeah,

that does make sense. That does make sense. Like, this is just unbelievable. What I said, I would actually be curious what you think. What I suspect part of the reason why I think a lot of these, you know, I can be a bit more pejorative here, obviously, because I don't need to maintain relations with these people, these swamp creatures. I think part of the reason why they're so opposed to the SAVE Act is because they probably fudge numbers during primaries. I genuinely believe that that could very well be the case. And they understand that it's going to be a lot more difficult for some of these people that seem to be hated by the base, by and large, but they still win these primaries by dictatorial numbers. Again, I think that that could potentially be what's going on here,

is it eliminates a lot of their institutional power. To your credit, look at what happened when we close the primaries in Louisiana. Cassidy comes in third. He gets locked out. He loses in the primary, not the runoff, when we changed it and made it a closed primary. So you couldn't just join the Republican Party and have people infiltrate us and choose the squishy Republican. And so we can learn from this in Alaska. Murkowski is not supporting the Save America Act. So this November, I need every Alaskan to vote yes, to Alaska ballot measure two, to repeal ranked choice voting. Yes. to end the mess.

And Murkowski's up in 2028. If we use these ballot measures, repeal these awful, destructive, anti-election integrity measures, that we can finally, as you said, clean house and revamp the Republican Party. Yeah, I mean, we're just, what are the people saying?

You're laughing. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. Don't pay attention to me. I'm actually, I was going to jump in. I was going to, here's a problem. I have all the ADDs in the world. And the chat keeps going. Like, people either love me or hate me.

There's no in between, but everyone loves you. And that's very annoying. It's like very annoyed to me. No, but back on Thune, okay? While you guys were talking, I was Googling. I was searching. Apparently, $70 million was spent or committed to be spent by SLF on Cornyn. Guys, shocker.

$70 million. dollars how does john thune look at a donor with like actual credibility and ask for money i don't want to sound repetitive but i have to ask us like how like i can't i can't i'm thinking like that scene and the hobbit of thorn going like i won't part with one coin like like i can't i can't you know what i'm talking about right like dragon sickness is taking over about giving republican senate leadership a penny that's what you I've got to ask you guys, I mean, I've seen a lot of people speculate that the direction these things are moving, these lectures are moving to is like packs really becoming pressure

groups, really punching above their weight. Again, to your point, how does John Thune like seriously make the case that he was going to spend your money wisely? I mean, I could see money pouring into these packs. You are exactly correct. Think about it for a second. They spent nearly a hundred million dollars in the primary and a 24-year incumbent John Cornyn, only one first- place with Paxton right behind him by 29,000 votes. For $100 million, we could have done voter registration operations in Georgia, Arizona, New Hampshire, Maine, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Alaska. We could have literally hired staff registering voters around the clock in every single swing state with the money that was blown on John Corny. Meanwhile, they wouldn't give a penny to the

Commonwealth of Virginia for the referendum, which we only were victorious because the court decided to do the right thing. Yeah. So, and by the way, just to the audience who doesn't know SLF and some other acronyms, it means the Senate Leadership Fund, which is the personal slush fund of none other than Senate Majority Leader Thune. It's from an insider's perspective, it's just frustrating. I've been in the high profile rooms many times, like at the Metropolitan Club in New York

or in the Union League club in New York when like big billionaires in New York City are doing fundraisers from. Actually, I have an awful story with John Thune. Me and a donor, this lady named Joanne, last name doesn't matter. I don't want to docks her. We're at the Metropolitan Club. Let's say there's like eight senators there in the midst of that was Rick Scott and a few other guys. And she pushed on Thune on something.

This is after President Trump had lost the 2020-11. election. And I want to say this like around 2021. And we're sitting literally on the table next to the CEO of Goya. It's like and he's committing all this money to Republicans and pretty conservative New Jersey guy. It's like very high profile. I was only in the room because said donor actually bought me along as her plus one because her husband couldn't make it. And this is like we're talking six, almost seven figure like plate food. And it's still rubber chicken and salad. doesn't matter. The dish doesn't change. So we're sitting there.

Can you believe that John Dune, when she questioned him on a specific bill and why are you like not fighting and not fighting for Trump, he turned around and said, lady, you need to either shut up or put your name on the ballot. And I'm like, this woman just like, it was so brazen. I've never seen somebody so obtuse in my life. And I sit here and I'm thinking like this dude like literally either resents this whole thing, hates Trump clearly. He's he's the original rhino, never Trump, or Mitt Romney is way after him. Like people don't realize that. He said Trump was over after the 2020 election. He said Trump was over.

Well, Trump's coming for all your disciples, Senator Thune. He's coming for every single one of your lackeys and you're next. I don't think he's going to have the support. Come January, he will not have the support to be Senate. Charlie leader. There is no way. If Cornyn loses, Cassidy's gone, I can even see Susan Collins going like, yeah, Thune, you got to go. Because she's going to survive that race in Maine, because Maine's just weird. And I don't know if you guys saw on the news today, the dude that's challenging her in Maine was talking about jacking off in Porter Potty's, how every time he goes into the blue box, that smell just triggers him, man, and he needs to rub one out. Like, I'm like, dude, are you serious? He's relating to voters.

That's voter outreach. A lot of people are like, whoa, friendly fire. What's the wrong with that? I just said this. I try to say all these things in the most non-controversial words, and I now feel absolutely awful for saying.

I'm just like, I don't think I should have said that. It's okay. The people need to know what's really going on with the Epstein class, how they behave, and how they think of money and how they think of people

that push back against the smallest components of what the agendas are trying to drive. People need to know. Plattenor is so wild. The Epstein class is why like, dude, geez, like tone it. now. All right.

Look, so the Epstein class is wild. Let's talk about Michigan Democrat congressional candidate, Shelby Campbell. Girlfriend got moves. I mean, look, there's these videos.

The New York, God bless the New York Post. I sort of got. It's like, TMZ who? It's like, TMZ who? Like,

apparently Shelby here, you know, some very young, attractive-ish for some. I don't know. I'm not into women. No water people. I'll leave you gentlemen to figure that out how attractive she is on the Richter scale.

Like, dude, she is twerking on top of her kitchen counters. I've just never seen something. Can we get the video there? Yeah, can we please? Yeah, let me see what I can do. Yeah, can be a video on 4K with the Zoom in future, please?

Repeat. Hold on. And Superman X-R-R-R-R- vision. Let's put on repeat if you don't mind, Carter. Let me see what I can do here. Upside down, talking at the beach. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't remember her name.

This keeps happening. They just keep throwing it back. What's going on? Republicans, we've got to do something. What I do? Because I am an ethical person. Oh, dialogue. Sober, too.

I'm a classy. Am I not? I'm glad they beeped that. It's a compelling. This is what I do. Because I am an ethical person. Take, does that do it for you? No, I still need to see you.

But I see a stack of dollar bills in your pocket. Is that not meant for her? Does that not for her? Could be, you know. Yeah, who knows? I mean, look, things are getting wacky and wild. There's a large constituency for this. There really is.

This is the decay of politics. I'm sorry. Like, if anybody thought I was the decay of politics. Like, holy, my beer because we got Shelby here. You were the dam holding it back. I mean, they did you wish the most problematic

thing that's ever happened in Congress is George Tanto? Because if this gets elected to Congress, this is problematic. It's bad enough we have you know what? I'm going to reserve judgment. I want to see a Congress full of Shelby's just for the record. Oh, I do. Republicans got to compete. We got to send

Lindsey Graham out there and he needs to throw it back because we got to go at these people, you know? We can't let them take this chunk of the constituents. Do you know what? I just love that nobody even questions. Like, you just said Lindsey Graham needs to throw it back because we, clearly everybody has, come on. Nobody challenged, I can't challenge you with a straight face. He's a little light in the loafers.

I cannot challenge. I love loafers, by the way. I can't challenge you in a straight face, that Lindsay Graham gay rumors. Right. Well, never going to shake them off. Look, wow, how do we get rid of Lindsay Graham? He's going to have a tough race too, by the way. Yeah.

He has a tough race. He looks like the endorsement, though. Yeah, he's locked. There's going to be an anti-incumbent search. So Scott, on Lindsay Graham, super off talk. I guess are we done with Shell? I think we probably agree with main points, yeah. Hey, mission accomplished though, whether she is a deeply

unserious candidate or not, we're taking time out of our lives to discuss her. She accomplished her mission. She got the attention that she wanted. And when she loses her election, she might tell everybody to go to her OF page. So she's going to get what she wants. It's a win-win, yeah. I mean, look, we can connect a very unsurious person to probably a more serious proposition when you're talking about the protection racket that is like the Senate leadership fund, right?

Or how much money gets thrown into these primaries, millions and millions of dollars, and the way that it's allocated as essentially a protection scheme for the incumbents who are not on board for what the American people want for this populist movement we have. Isn't this the greatest overall argument for we should just have state conventions, where they're going to be most responsive to the grassroots activists who are actually plugged in and not the people who are to the left side of the bell curve on the intelligence scale who are primed to be convinced by a person who's twerking on TV to vote for that person just because it's... Have Democrats learned that twerking does not win elections?

Didn't Kamala spend a bunch of money on some random rapper to go twerk on her... Megan the stallion? Yeah, that didn't work. I like her music. Yeah, far from random, George. State convention. Well, you make a salient. Good for who?

I know you were a twerking Somalié. I didn't know you were into that. Tell me more, Chris, on how, Megan, the what? Megan, these stallions. Like a form was on. She's a talented rapper. No, she's not. I think so.

Nikki Minaj is a talented rapper. Azelea Baines is a talented rapper. Spencer Pratt's a great rapper. I'm a better rapper. I didn't know that. It might be. Can you give a quick stanza? Uh, what can I give?

I do. No, I'm just going to give a Nikki Is that okay? Pull up in the Monster automobile Gangso with a bad bitch that came from

Sri Lanka yeah I'm in a tank a color O'Iwiliwanka you could be the king but watch of queen conquer first thing serves I eat your brain then I'm gonna start rocking goat teeth and fangs and fangs

from Milan that's a monster do Monster Giuseppe heels that's a monster shoe Young Monster is a Monster and a Monster crew and a malle up all up in the bank with a funny face and if I think I ain't because my money ate

so that's fantastic I love it I don't know I was a gift for all Patriots Did we just have Nikki Minaj in the studio with us? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I'm a bar. The aura emanating from a beer.

You're going to get a copyright strike now. Huh? That was too accurate. No. It wasn't accurate. That was transformative. All the podcast listeners and all audio only and they were like, Nikki's there and she's not talking. The AI is literally going to detect

copyright from that. It was too, it was too good. What's the audience? What are the eyes? Oh, no. The swirly eye. I feel that too. Like I got lightheaded doing that.

I couldn't breathe for like a solid 30 seconds. You got to work on your cardio. You got to work on your cardio. No, trust me. I got to work on a lot more than just my cardio. How about losing like half my body weight to start? But look, all, all, all joking aside, I want to, I want to do go serious, as serious as I go, which is not very. This is not a serious candidate.

Lindsey Graham is a deeply unsurious candidate. I mean, everybody here was chanting Lady Graham or stuff like that. Got to go. And I love that. Like, I am prolific pro-Trump. I don't understand how the president was able to overcome Lindsay Graham's little meltdown in 2020 right after J-6, the literal. Remember, he's like, it was a great run, but it's over. Like, dude, you're over.

Nobody really likes Lindsey Graham. I think he is the most unpopular United States Senator. And we really have to have a conversation in the Republican Party. We need to stop sending him on TV whenever we go into like a conflict with a foreign nation. He scares my friends. And then they start calling me like, Lindsay Graham, he's salivating. Because he's like salivating on TV. Yeah.

And you ran and we're going to bomb him. And I'm like, dude, get this man off TV. I was on the phone with Megan McCain. And she's like, George. Like my friends are scared. I'm like, no, my friends are scared. So, like, we have to stop sending this man on TV. He's scaring the hose, as people say.

You can't have that. He can't have that. He scares everyone. He scares everyone, including the hose. All of us, we're all scared. He's drooling on TV. He's like, can we just watch Fleshburn one more time? And it's like, dude, relax.

It was a couple weeks ago they sent Rick Scott out to say that you don't have to fear any sort of kinetic operation in Cuba because Lindsay Graham hasn't weighed in on it. He's the barometer of warheads. foreheads. Yeah. Yeah, it is a little depressed. I mean, this goes back to where Trump does sometimes make some poor endorsements. And, yeah, the Lindsey Graham one, oh, I understand. Like, you got to, there's, there's, there's, there's, you got to play a ball sometimes. And friendship. You know, I think there's a friendship, and there's a lot to be said about loyalty. President Trump's a loyal guy. I know that from personal experience. Yeah. You know, you're loyal to him. It's a two-way

street. It's a real two-way straight. Trump docks him in 2016, and he was on the floor of the Senate in 2020 saying, I'm done. I mean, the loyalty, there's relatively new. No, no, no, it's old. They go way back. They go way back. As you say whatever you want to say there, I'm just going to take a sip of pool water. And, yeah, Trump's gone to war with guys before and they make up, I mean, Mark Ruby is a secretary of state. I mean, little Marco. Trump's retiring at his medium Marco now. I love Marco Rubio. He's most improved player, I would say, for giving out awards. I mean, he's been fantastic Secretary of State. best Secretary of State, I think, in a long time.

Certainly the modern era. In the, I mean, I, people don't understand when I say this, but I do believe Condoleezza Rice was a good Secretary of State. It's a hot take when you think about what she had to juggle. The woman had to juggle 9-11, Iraq, Afghanistan, and she did it quite gracefully. But her antics, again, very warhawkish, which, again, I've, I'll say that he. Within her function, she was good. Within her function, she managed under pressure, and she never once broke down. And she stood loyal by, which I called President Bush a war criminal.

And I will die saying that. That's another hot take. I don't know how much trouble I'll get in for that one. I think that's like everyone now. Pretty much, yeah. And he's a war criminal. And I don't care. People are going to say, like, you're a criminal.

I'm like, you know what, but I didn't go and kill anybody. So how about that? I didn't send every single soldier you could lay out. eyes on said, you're going to go die. Let's like, that's George Bush. But anyway, I get the memo. I get the memo. Minnesota becomes first state to ban prediction markets.

And that's an interesting one because the prediction markets have been facing a lot of challenge, CaliShe, Polymarket. And is there any other app out there? I don't know. Yeah, those are the two. Isn't like a predicted or something like that? Yeah, those are the two Titans, though. Yeah. The ones with the lobbying, though.

Wasn't predicted first, though? I thought so. Maybe. I could be wrong. But anyway, looks like Minnesota is the first one to nail the coffin, to steal the coffin on these guys. It looks like Mike Wall signed the nation's first law banning prediction market sites from operating in the state. And in response, the Trump administration has sued to teeing up a legal battle over the most far-reaching cracked on on popular services like Cowsian Polymarket. I don't know why President Trump would go, the admin would go to war.

There's a big, no, no, more on this. I better using them. Well, I don't know about that. That's been disproven time and time again. Everybody, do you know how many times you'll see on Twitter? Oh, that, the Venezuela trade, remember, that was Baron Trump. Well, unless Baron Trump is a seal. Yeah, I mean, I'm sure Tim Walts's reason for like this is probably really gay,

but like I do have this, like, I'm very, like, big-haired church-church. Everything about him is gay. It's very true. And that's coming from me. I have, like, I have very big-haired church lady's stances on, like, vices. I hate gambling. This is, this is one of my, like, I'm a very pro-Trump guy. I've been known as a Trump shill, and I happily accept that.

But, like, one of the big departures I have at the Trump administration is, again, these embraces of things like gambling, the weed declassification. There's a myriad of other ways where this has happened. And from my perspective, if you are to believe a lot of the reporting, it does seem like, again, this is lobbying, weighing in. I don't think Trump really cares about these things, so this isn't hit on him. This is just, this is a certain issue with lobbying. The weed rescheduling, though, I'm going to push back.

I'm anti-marijuana, and I get a lot of slack for that. I do have a sister and her, she's on great track now, my sister, but weed did take steal years of her life, essentially. It's an addiction that will, like, quite make you useless. And it's crazy. It stole years of my sister's life. But that being said, I did agree with the reclassification. I'll tell you why. From a fiscal perspective, we were being cheated blind as the government was being cheated

blind. And we're not in a position to let industries operate almost like cartel-like, legalized cartel-like operations. Because it was a scheduled one, all those farmers were not able to open a bank account. And because they couldn't open a bank account, this was a high- highly cash driven industry and very hard to keep accountable on taxation purposes. I believe there's going to be a 4 to 8x growth in tax revenue because of this because now they can't open bank accounts with Schedule 3.

That's kind of like that's my two qualms with it. It's schedule three is one, giving them banking access. Now they're able to ride off losses. And this is what held back the tide from basically Wall Street dumping money into the weed industries because they had this looming fear of like, okay, well, we can't ride off any of our losses. So let's say they make $9 million. you're $10 million lose $9 million. Now they can ride off on $9 million. And then in addition

of that, I mean, we've seen the studies. The studies are, you know, everyone says, well, they can we can study it now. Dude, like, some more people, more zoomers smoke weed than drink now. Like, we can study this perfectly fine. We saw in Colorado when they legalized weed that for every dollar of tax revenue generated, they had to spend $3.5 dollars on costs related to weed, like in-automobile accidents also. Collisions became a bigger issue out in Colorado. There was the biggest barometer. Rehab, re-education. There's so many police dispatches. I mean, there are so many issues that came along with it. And that's like bulletproof data. And then we saw the JAMA study come out recently, who is kind of the final authority on a lot of these things. And they said, yes, we're seeing in adolescence that it is increasing psychosis. This is bad for people. Whatever, I know there's all these pahedasas. They always go after me on this take, but it's just true. Sorry, it's true. And then the way it all went down was so sketchy. There was a Washington Post article. You can roll your eyes. But, you know, this was a pretty solid article back in December where Susie, Wiles was hosting a motley crew of weed CEOs and the CEO of True Leaf, the largest weed

company in America, the CEO, Kim, I forget her surname, Kim, she worked with Susie Wiles at the Ballard Partners. So it was like very obvious what happened here. So Trump, according to this article is on the foot of Mike Johnson, Mike Johnson's pushing back saying, hey, this is a bad idea, like the data's coming in, we really shouldn't do this. And Trump, because he just, I mean, he's not interested in this. He's got bigger fish to fry. He passes the phone to this lady from Trulief, the CEO. And then she explains the Mike Johnson why she's pushing the Trump administration

to reclassified marijuana. Because from my perspective, this is what's holding the market back, actually. And as soon as it gets reclassified, now Wall Street can dump everything in and this market's going to completely explode. And you can't put a lid on. There is a handicap, though.

It looks like, this is my understanding in the reconciliation bill. They're going to try to do a cap on losses on marijuana, by the way. And it's 20%. They have to. So, you know, it's going to be almost like the way that we can do tax credits where you kind of compile them like, okay, you could use 10,000 next year, 10,000 next year.

It's going to be a forever fund of losses. But I, again, look, nothing's perfect in our government. As Massey said earlier, by the way, it was just interesting because he was talking about bills and one page. Yeah, the smaller the bill, the better the bill. Sure. Always. So go ahead, Scott. Sorry.

I would say, you look like you're going to have an infart. No, just America chooses what psychosis. it's willing to put up with. And I mean, they'll wage a war against one thing, but then allow this to invade the minds of our youth and allow Chinese TikTok influence to cause psychosis of our own. So, but notwithstanding, back to the predictive markets for a second, I could understand an argument trying to stop foreign interference in our elections

because a lot of people do put a lot of trust in the predictive, in the predicting markets. If there was a way that we could validate, it was only lawful American citizens participating in such a thing. But can we just take a moment to notice that Minnesota, the state that has huge Medicaid fraud and is allowing Somali immigrants to defraud the American people is more concerned about election interference than what's going on in the state. I just think it's very inconsistent and very ironic. Yeah, I mean, that's why I was making the point initially and I totally agree is because I'm sure his reasoning for this is probably really corrosive and, you know, gay, quite frankly. I mean, the same thing happened in New York City, where New York City accidentally passed a really base law, but they didn't mean for this to happen, as they passed a law, which said, all businesses are required to accept cash, no matter what, no and if or buts you have to accept cash, which as a conservative, I'm like, that's good, because we saw Beto O'Rourke threatening, you know, the bank, when he was running for Senate, and they were like, how will you, you know, you know, ban AR-15 sales in a state that'll never pass any laws on that?

well, I would instruct Chase to block those purchases. So the table was set right there. This is how they're going to interfere with Americans' civil rights, right? With their actual God-given rights, the rights of purchase firearms, they would utilize banks. So New York City passed this law, but their explanation for it was actually terrible. They were like, it's because homeless people can't, like, have access to banks and we need them to buy stuff from bodegas. And I was like, okay. But the actual result of it turned out to be a really conservative policy.

I think this is another example of this is like where this is probably actually a really poor explanation, but the outcome, I think, would be favorable if you're, like, truly a social conservative, like, all the way. I mean, because, again, gambling, it's just Pandora's Box. It's my same thing with weed is, like, I understand, like, the impulse to maybe open it up a little more. It seems fair, but the problem is all Wall Street needs is a foot in the door, and it'll blow wide open. And the accuracy of those futures markets, I mean, I understand intellectually why it would make sense, because instead of people just answering some random pollster or because the polls are coming into people who only have landline phones, ergo, it's going to trend towards an older demographic.

It's not going to be as accurate as people were willing to put their money on the line. So you would infer from that it's going to be more accurate. But then what they're finding out now is that people who invest in these futures are just better at placing bats. They're superior. They're doing better on this than they are at sports bats. So they just are superior at identifying value rather than actually saying what's more likely to happen. So really putting weight into it as a predictive market isn't really as accurate as I think that they were hoping it would be. I think it just goes back to functionally the same issue.

would have a sports gambling, which is this is effectively a poverty tax. Because, again, like, people with a lot of capital that are good with money are not putting their financial future on the line for predictive betting. They're playing the stock market or various other avenues to build wealth. This primarily is going to hit people that probably can't afford to lose the money that they're going to lose on these predictive marketing. Lottery. So that's always been my primary issue.

Lottery, same thing. Lottery is the most egregious one, because it's like, at least with the predictive marketing, you threw money on, you know, Ed tonight. You know, probably he's going to win. theoretically you could have researched it. Yeah, but like, so you can do a little DD, but as far as lottery, you're literally just like donating to you. Donating to the lottery. But it's funny.

Yeah. How about this? But how about this? How about this? Look, in Minnesota, the problem with the bill is it literally turns lawful operators and participants in prediction markets and subelans overnight. And that, those are the exact words of CFTC chairman Michael Selig. Yeah. Like how, how can that, like, how can that even?

How can walls square that away? but then again, this is the same guy who wanted to put tampons in boys' bathrooms. So I- He's kidnapping in Minnesota. Yeah, I catch myself. You're trying to even understand and rationalize him. It's so hard because a dude is just so insane. So my question, if it would be this, is what's going to happen moving forward?

Are these people now all, you know, declared felons by the state of Minnesota de facto? They had ongoing bets. Let's just say people who had bets that were ongoing for tonight. night. What were they supposed to do? You know what I mean? It creates a chaos. And that's what Democrats are really good at doing is creating chaos. I've seen it firsthand. Now, I do know one thing. A lot of states are challenging these prediction platforms as gambling websites. And they're trying to get gambling income in the like disperses of the states versus the funding being overseen by the CFDC. Yeah. I mean, the one thing here,

why Minnesota might be an outlier is because sports betting is still legal in Minnesota, so at least they can say they're being fairly consistent here. Even if, again, Tim Walts is just going to have a completely different perspective on this for me. But in states where sports betting is legal, but then they go after these prediction markets, that indicates it's entirely political and should be dismissed out of hand. That's the lobby from the sports betting places that they're going to the politicians saying, well, we've got to get rid of these predictive markets because they're essentially functioning

in our territory. Yeah. We're legal. And that's, you're back to access. That's the problem of access when you have the ability to, you know, like Ms. Adelson, you know, like Congressman or former, soon to be former Congressman Thomas Massey was pointing out, when you have access, then for the power that's attached to it, and then you're subverting what the populace, what the constituency is actually in favor of. Look, I don't know. I'm at a point where I don't even know what matters anymore. Like here we're arguing, I'm going to go like a little off to deep end here, but we're arguing over prediction markets, right? Gas is five bucks. Yeah. I mean, people are are complaining about grocery prices.

And again, I understand that everything comes with a cost and I understand that the operations in Iran have a long term. The problem is that youth, my generation has not lived without a single war since I was a kid. We're tired. And I'm an elder millennial, right? Zoomers, I mean, so are you, so don't laugh. That's why I am laughing. So are you. I just don't like to admit it.

Yeah, you're an elder millennial too, okay, Gandalf of the millennials. I'm a gray beard millennial. Grapeard millennial. Okay, all right. I mean, I was born eight months before 9-11, so. You don't remember a time? No, I'm a consumer. I was 2001.

Oh, that's right. 96 is... You never went to an airport to need a loved one. No. I tried to do that thing because, I mean, my girlfriend lived in Denver City, so I tried to do that thing where you can, like, ask the airport if you can, like, check in a, like, a guest to walk with you to the gate. And they were like, what are you talking about?

I was like, I saw it in a movie. They're like, well, you told... That's been 30 years since you're allowed to do that. I was like, I'm sorry. Then don't put it in the movies. So they can't do that. 9-11. You misled me.

You could only do that with minors now. Okay. Yeah, they, a plane crashes. And now all of a sudden, you know. It wasn't just a plane crash. Well, yeah. It wasn't just the plane crash.

But anyway, the point I'm trying to make is, um, it's like, I think we need to, to just understand where this puts us, um, as far as a party, as far as a, uh, country. Like we're prioritizing minutia when there's real issues on the table. And where do we go from there? Like, Scott, what is the message to win the midterm? How about that? Like Trumpism can win primaries.

Fine. Love that. Love that for us. Love that for conservatives. But what is the message to win the actual elections? Has to Save America Act. Okay. Well, and it's okay to talk about minutia or diminutive topics as long as you tie it back to the broad topic at hand.

So, for example, we're talking Minnesota. Well, anyone that knows Minnesota knows that they have vouching in the state where one registered voter can vouch for up to eight people without proof of citizenship or voter ID or any ID whatsoever. And then when you note that in 2008, Al Franken was elected by 312 votes and was the 60th vote for the Affordable Care Act, which we still have today, I think as long as we do a good job of always tying it back to this is why this issue is important. and the way that we defeat it is by passing election security and the Save America Act, which helps everything. So now, if we want to win this November, pass the Save America Act into law and secure elections. I think Save Act is your break glass in case of emergency option because I think it's going to be

too late to do one of the other two primary things. One would be bringing down inflation radically and just a lag on that. Inflation doesn't come down radically overnight, though. Correct. I'm saying you don't have the time. You don't have the time for that. So that ship's a sale. So let's talk about that.

That's a great message, but I agree with you that it is not enough to, I think we need more than just pass a SAVAC. You need to return to what originally happened last year with illegal alien deportations. Now, what's gone on since February, since you had the crackdown pullback, the Dunkirk that went on in Minneapolis, because you had the two shootings that went on there, and then they've gone soft. It's not that they've gone soft. I characterize it as you've gone mean girls. It's no, no, no, no. You've gone mean girls.

You had so, so. You had two incidents of shootings that were not justifiable. I mean, you're arresting a thousand illegals a day. Amazing. That's not, that's not where there's no, that's 365,000 a year. That's nowhere close to the mass deeper. I understand what you're saying, but what I'm saying is I was on the show.

We talked about this. Like, I, I understand. I understand the intensity that ice goes under. Like, are you kidding? I've seen their operations. It is honorable what they do. But when two American citizens die, it's hard to not take a pause. And like, okay, we need to continue to do this without having any more casualties because it's not optimal.

She tried to run over a police officer. Again, agreed. She was stupid. She put herself in that position. The other one bringing a gun to a, like, they both put themselves in that position. But you were in law enforcement when something like this happens, like you have to take a step back and like, all right, we got to figure out a way. Like you can't just, let me ask you this. Steve, tell me this.

In the FBI, if casualties like that happen, right, in your time you were there, do you guys just continue business as usual? Do you try to figure out, hey, how do we avoid this moving forward? Well, you could look to no other example than what they did with January 6th that no casualties would have been enough for them there. They would have just gone forward. and I think with... No, that's a hot... I like that, actually. That's a great example.

So when it comes to deportations, though, you're dealing with not American citizens. So the expectation of protection of civil rights and all those things, that they're not afforded because they're not part of the social compact. You have more latitude to be far more aggressive in that context. And I think when you have pulled back

and you've declared victory by doing the Dunkirk and saying, well, we're going to withdraw from Minneapolis and then just say we want... The only reason that Dunker is, her historically considered any sort of victories because they won the overall war. If you're deporting less than a thousand illegal aliens nationwide a day, that's hardly going to give you the success rate. And to the metaphor I like to use with this mean girls, go back to the movie.

You have the it kid leaves the ex-girlfriend, Democrat Party, voters being the it kid. They leave the ex-girlfriend. They go to the new girl, the new girl being the Republicans who were swept into the presidency, both houses of Congress. Because they liked what the new girl was about, and that was mass deportations. And then New Girl says, you know, I kind of want the friends of the mean girls, New York Times, Washington Post, NPR, Axios. So we're just going to go soft. Well, what's the it kid going to do, the voter? Well, there's no difference between the girls now. I'm just going to go back to the other one because she was hotter and she gave me better Benny's. Well, I think there's like two things going on that makes it really difficult for the Trump

administration is one, they're dealing with Congress, which we've discussed ad nauseum, that they're just not going to play ball. The big beautiful bill, I mean, we were like scratching to get that through the, through the door. You had to throw in a bunch of crap in there to get it across the finish line. But two, I agree. I mean, like, it's just a thousand's drop in the bucket. I mean, they estimate 10 to 20 million came in just under Biden alone. So 30. Yeah, I mean, I was there. 30. 30 was the oddest number, but Majorca's refuse, my Yorkers and Bacera in California, out, both literally refused to look at the facts every time they were hauled in Congress. So we're talking like, you know, tens of millions of, so I totally agree. But also like part of

the problem that the Trump administration is running into is that this, the, the function of our government apparatus has been to import as many people as possible for like decades now. So reorienting that entire, that entire apparatus towards deportations is extremely difficult to do as we've seen. I'm still sort of like I still have, I'm still pretty white-pilled on this because I mean, there's a lot of different things that we're seeing out of the State Department specifically that would indicate this is still a focus in a lot of different departments in the administration. I mean, the white South African thing alone just tells you that they're like locked in. They're dialed in on this issue.

They're just running into extreme resistance in the courts because we see that over one guy, that Abrago Garcia guy, the Democrats turned out into a wedge issue and made it a two-month thing. So I think two things can be true here. And margaritas. Yeah. I think like two things can be true here. is one, the deportation numbers are way too low. Again, it's three, they can bring that back in a month. But also, I think the Trump administration, we do have to let them cook a little bit more on this because

there's still so much that has been unraveled here. They're coming to new agreements with local jurisdictions every day, which does make it easier to eject illegal immigrants. But the secret sauce here is self-deportations. That's what's going to be the secret sauce in carrying out mass deportations. How practical is it for ICE to, you know, take 10,000 people a day? It'd be very, very difficult for them to do. So the secret saucer is what President Trump has been doing is, again, making, like, cranking up the pressure on, the primary way people are legally immigrant into the country is visa overstays. So you have to crank up the pressure specifically.

70%. Yeah. So you have to crank up the pressure in that, you know, space. And then people will begin to self-deport because they'll just say, the gravy train's gone. I got to go home. We saw this in Denmark. Where Denmark, very liberal country, they said we've had enough immigration. So they just eviscerated the illegal welfare net that they had for migrants.

And most of them just left because they're like, oh, I'm not getting free money anymore. I've made this argument so many times, so many times. I did it on the house floor. The only way to close a spigot of economic migrants who are mainly B1B2 visa holders, which is tourism and leisure, leisure tourism business is it's the easiest visa to get. It's like vulgar as hell. It's like it's so easy to qualify for. The threshold is so low.

And 70% of illegal aliens in this country are all visa overstays, actually. And they're all economic migrants, right? They come here with them story. I'm going to go to Disneyland or New York. I want to say a Broadway show. That's literally the excuses they use when they're talking to the agents, CBP agents and airports, Atlanta, New York, whatever. So here's the interesting thing.

Do you want to cut immigration drastically? go unearth the bill that I introduced, amended a little bit, and essentially say that non-legal residents cannot have any banking privileges in America. I mean, they can't Western Union, they can't Vigo money transfer, they can't bank, they can't send money back to wherever they're from. The huala. There's, my point is, zero activity. What does that do?

The incentive, the spigot closes. And here's the danger that I can see that I haven't seen it discussed anywhere. So you're dealing with failure to pass a save act, okay? You're seeing a tremendous migration within the country of people fleeing blue states to red states. But as it comes to apportionment with congressional representation with the electoral college, the total population is what counts. And they are including illegal aliens in that, which is why the blue states that have sanctuary policies, they're incentivized to keep it there.

There's going to be a push for red states, which are doing a good job, a better job, of deporting illegally ends, cooperating with the feds to do it, from the Republicans, from the squishy Republicans, from the Lindsey Graham's to say, you have to stop cooperating because we need to keep the population there so that we can elect more Republicans from these red states, which essentially is going to give you an amnesty. I think it wouldn't be a problem if we didn't, and I've been down to the border, I will say the border secure went to an area that went from thousands of migrants coming into the country into the interior. Which area did you go?

McAllen, Texas. Okay. I was never there. I was in El Paso, San Diego, Yuma. 2,500 a day, illegal aliens coming in to 50. Now, 50 doesn't mean going into the interior, immediately deported. But I was just thinking while you guys are tacking, and I think you make a point. Chat, show George, because he's reading the chat right now.

do you want more deportations? Are we failing to deport the amount of illegal aliens that we thought we would get when we reelected President Donald Trump in 2024? And that's not a slight if we are going to make sure that electorally we actually make a difference. We must deport. What if any migrant we chose to bring into America, they signed a written agreement that if they chose to have a baby, that baby could not be an American citizen? You'd have to change the law on birth rights from liturst to a swing wing, which is what's being challenged right now. But in America, you can give up your citizenship and become a, what do they call it? Not an expat, but it's stateless. Stateless or they have like a nation name for it. We could create some legal document that any person coming over, their child. You have to win the legal document like the Constitution. Yeah, but you have to win a legal argument in the court.

look, I'm here for it, right? Like, I'm okay. No babies. Well, that's why if this birthright citizenship doesn't go our way in the Supreme Court, the path forward is so much more difficult because it is. They can just pour back in, pop a kid out, and then they're here forever. Here's a problem. There's something called birth tourism.

And it happens predominantly. Predominantly happens in Miami, Florida. I know people don't like to talk about it because it's a great state of Florida. But the majority of birth tourism takes place in Florida. South America, Asia, Russia. The amount is, if you're going to Sunny Isles, it's like, first of all, English optional. Like, Sunny Isle in South Florida is legit English optional between all the Slavic immigrants that live there that literally come here on their, at the middle of their pregnancy, like mid second trimester, pop your babies, bounce back to Russia. 18 years later, they have an American citizen coming here to start their life or whatever.

Yeah. Right. Or vote by mail. Same thing. Well, I don't even take it that far because I'm trying to just. No, they take it that far. I'll put it this way. Two nations who are chief violators of this.

And here's another thing that nobody talks. These are real statistics. I can dork out here and be absolutely boring and I don't want to be so boring. But I'll just say this. These people come here. They take advantage of our medical system because it's an honor system. You will go through prenatal. You'll give birth.

You'll dump, you'll dip and jip us. on $60,000 to $70,000 birth bill, you know, delivery bill, and never have to pay for it. That's literally what they do, right? And they come from three countries on the top list of this is Russia, Brazil, and Colombia. There's tourism agencies in these countries selling these packages. We'll set you up with the apartment. We'll make the initial medical appointment. And it flies right under the nose of the State Department.

Yeah. And the consulates and all these countries, Nobody's doing it. These people show up like, I'm going to Disney and you're like five months pregnant. Really? You're going to go on a roller coaster? That's really smart, said no one ever. But they get the visa.

They get the B1, B2 visa, which is a problem. A lot of people think earlier last year in the beginning of 2025, the big issue discussion was the H1B visas. Right. Those are not the main issue as far as visas go. J1, B2 are the chief violating. visas of overseas. J1 is a student visa. I'm going to go to America to learn English. They never freaking leave. Yeah, I know. They never leave. So I think there needs to be a lot of visa reform. I think there needs to be a lot of reduction and create lower quotas. Some countries in South

America don't even have limits and quotas of how many they can issue. They just issue them as they, it's discretionary decision from the councilates in all of South America. We need to change that. We need to give quotas. You can pass you can give X amount of visas annually. Immigration is not hard to fix. It's not definitely Maria Salazar's bill verbatim, the Dignity Act. I think I once I once upon a time supported that bill. Now I'd say right just it's roundabout amnesty. It's pretty much Reaganism amnesty. Yeah, I mean like this is the thing in the Trump administration's credit. I mean, they've jammed up visas from like 76 countries now. But there was some notable exceptions. and I think these would be the countries that come to the forefront of people's minds

when they do think about the people that are coming here and disrupting their lives. India was absent from the list. China was absent from the list. Mexico was absent from the list. I mean, these are the countries that, again, if you just go and talk to people in the street, go to Dallas, you know, go to Houston, go to Atlanta, go to Memphis. I mean, these are the cities. If you go and ask these people, you know, which countries,

which sources of immigration are causing you the most problems, they will cite those countries. So it's like, yes, it's fantastic. Excellent, because that would have never happened. Probably didn't even under any of a Republican. That's to Trump's credit. but yeah we got to expand that visa jam up i mean that's just the key here because also like you can call me like a libtar or something but to be fair the countries and trump said this himself you know he was saying like offhand he's like why can't we get more migrants from like denmark or norway it's like because it's

really hard for people that actually follow the law to come here from countries we would like people to come from i mean trump he made this one i don't know if was a tweet or if he said this offhand like a long time ago but he's like border patrol treats my wife really poorly you know they treat it really poorly so it's like this weird thing happens all across the west but specifically in the United States, is when like white people are trying to immigrate to the country, we crank up like the immigration pressure as high as possible. We make it like impossible for them to come here. Just ask anyone that's to come from Europe because they typically speak English. Just ask them and they'll be like, yes, it was like hell on earth trying to cross the finish line.

But if you rock up from Nicaragua, rock up from India, come on in. Here's 13 different. There's a visa menu that you can select from. It's unbelievable. 16 visa options to come to the United States out of South American countries combined. Yeah. There's 16 ways you can come to this country with a visa if you're in South America between Argentina, Brazil, Colombia, Uruguay, Paraguay. If you're coming from Denmark, you got to wait four years and spend half. Oh, not just that. It's unbelievable.

Here's a deal. The EU has the ESA visa waiver program, but in its own self, it is so restrictive. It's crazy. Look, I know this is going to sound so bad. I'm not concerned about migration coming in here from Switzerland or, or, or, I. I'm really not. It's okay to say that. They want to go back.

They don't want to stay here. Yeah. They have better quality of life in those countries. And no one's dog ever got ate by a Swiss person. No. No, it's absolutely true. So like it's the people who come here to, it's a game of addition immigration, right? Look, a lot of people like to say, oh, yeah, your family came here back in the early 1900s.

Yeah, they came here through Ellis Island. They built lives here. they contributed to our culture, to our society. New York City was legit built on the backs of Italian and Irish immigrants. Every single thing about New York City was built on immigration. That is accurate. But they built this new wave of Somali, Haitian. I mean, they take, they destroy.

This is like they're turning parts of this country into portal prince. Like it's not good. Like we're bringing in pirates now. We're bringing in cannibals now. It's a big difference. from what we used to bring in. So yes, I will make this distinction because it's accurate, historically backed by fact.

It's frustrating when I have to argue about this because I sound crazy. But it's so obvious. I mean, like, you can look at when the Hartzeller Act was being implemented, the 1965 Immigration Act. We discussed it on length on Friday with Jeremy Carl. You can go take a look at that. And the fears at the time from the people

that were opposed to the Hartzeller Act, that looks like fantasy land compared to now. Like, they was so tame. their expectations. Their biggest fear was that when the Hartzell Act was passed that we would see a wave of Polish people moves to the country. That is not what's happened whatsoever. The sources of migration, no one, even the liberals that were pushing for the Hart Cellar Act were like, yeah, it's not going to like change, you know, the culture of the country at all. We're probably just going to bring in more Czechs and more Slovakians and more Poles.

Not what happened at all. And to George's point, I mean, the migrants that are coming now are vastly different. The people that are coming now are economic migrants. People that came before were ideological migrants. And so far as they had an ideological disconnect with their home country, they were desiring to live in America because of the way we lived our lives. They were desperate to move in

and integrate into the country. They were buying into the American project. The people coming now, they just want to have Nicaragua, for example, but in America. They want to have Nicaragua, but with a better economy. Even their flag as they come.

I mean, you're probably too young, but I remember being in school for kids who were first generation, who were not allowed to speak anything but English when they were home because their parents said, you're an American now, you're going to speak that. So they essentially lost their dialect that could have been brought down to the generations from their parents because the parents absolutely refused.

And it was, we would have a play date. And my mom couldn't communicate with my friend's mom. So we'd have to use the kid as a translator. Those days are God. Yeah, Zoron's like doing ads in Persian. It's like unbelievable. My wife is from Ukraine. She came here where she was 14 years old.

and to talk about how, you know, you get treated differently, they misspelled her name, and they refused to correct the way that they spelled her name because it's like, well, that's your problem, I don't care. But she was from Pakistan, red carpet rolled out. Come on it. We'll get you a hotel. Her legal name is not accurate.

It's a misspelling. It's insane. I mean, it's insane. And it's because there's the racial component. People can't be honest about these things. By the way, not Russia, but the Japanese, they typically make pretty good migrants. Don't, I don't think anyone's like, oh, no, some

Japanese people move next door. Never has happened in the history of this country. Well, maybe it says Pearl Harbor. So it's like, let's just be honest. We can be honest about these things. Like, we don't have to dance around this because what the American people react to is honesty. And this is why Trump was so successful because he came in 2016 and he didn't do the Jeb Bush

routine of like, diversity is our strength. He was like, they're sending rapists. He was this close to saying a racial slur. Dude, that's why he won. That's why he won. Because America's like, thank you. I wanted to say. How can I say this?

He wasn't, you know, the, he wasn't gay. Yeah. There you go. He was straightforward about it. Like,

look, Trump's biggest superpower has always been blunt honesty, brutality. He's not worried about being artful. I don't care. You know why I don't care?

Because literally, I will go back exactly to be, being redundant to like what we just said. They're literally sending pirates and cannibals to our country now.

Literally. Period. Full stop. Like, can we get back, like, the long-haired settlers who built this station, like Scott Presler with your, like,

Paul Revere outfit. I can't see Scott Presler building up New York City. I can't. You should see him and Paul Revere get up that they do online. He'd be one of the Southern Gentry, you know, the Cavalier class. Make sense toxic to pirates and cannibals and people that eat animals other than. you know, that are domesticated, that are dags, cats, et cetera. That's number one.

But number two, we could do a better job. President Trump flexes on tariffs. Why are we not doing a better job saying Mexico? See, what's happening is these migrants come across the border. We deport them back a day later. They're coming across the border again trying to get in. They're not able to get into the interior. But there is no mechanism from other countries penalizing the illegal aliens

continuously trying to come across the border. we need to use our flex monetarily wise and say, you want a good trade deal with us, then you need to penalize the very people that we capture and deport and detain over and over and actually imprison them. And then we will give you good trade deals. Yeah. That's the kind of thinking. Absolutely.

And that's why it's so bewildering that sometimes the gloves come off, but then sometimes the gloves stay on. I mean, again, I'll go back to like India. I mean, again, like people in America are so frustrated with India. immigrants. Like this is the case all across the Anglosphere, quite frankly. But in the United States, again, this is the number one thing I hear when you go to especially a city like Dallas. It's unbelievable what's happened to Dallas. In the last 20 years, it's unrecognizable. Why is India getting like the soft kid gloves treatment right now? I mean, I understand that they're an emerging

power and everything. But this is somewhere where you could just get an easy win. You would accumulate political capital, by the way. Like everyone talks about immigration. It's like, well, why do you spend political capital on Iran and not mass deportations? You could actually get political capital if you just cut the crap with countries like India who are just like the people that are coming over quite frankly are just not adding much to the United States. There's exceptions obviously. I'm not denying that, but exceptions don't disprove the norm. And when you're conducting policy, you have to base it on norms, not expectations. I'll take their, I'll take their higher caste immigrants. Yeah. You know, the high cast come on in. That's a different story.

Like DFW area with the FHAOs. I didn't cancel for that went. So during the Biden administration, how H-1B visa holders typically in DFW area, we're going to be Indian. and they received FHA loans to buy houses where they had to come in with zero to three percent down and they could get the difference from the state. So they were essentially competing for half million dollar houses with zero dollars versus an American who had to bring in $100,000 to buy the exact same house. And that drove property prices up. It created these enclaves.

And it's the entitlement of, well, we're not assimilating to the American melting pot culture. We're just transposing ours here. And we just want a higher paying job. Higher paying job for us. it'll be lower for you, American, because it's standard of living. And they had thrown up monkey statues just to celebrate the victory.

It's a little victory lap. Literally a giant statue of a monkey in Dallas, Fort Worth. Dude, they built the largest Gurdvada, which is like an Indian temple in the world in New Jersey. I'm not kidding. That's the actual fact. The sopranos could have seen that.

What would have happened? What would have gone down? But look, it goes without saying immigration in a sentence has become toxic. Toxic to the sense that we're not, like, they're not sending their best. They're sending rapists, murders, drug dealers, cannibals, pirates. We're sending losers, too. Like, people that just, like, kind of suck.

Well, welfare usage is way higher with them. You're felling welfare queens over. Like, they pop tent. Like, dude, I grew up. Okay, so I'm from Queens in New York City. Place called Jackson Heights. Oh, yeah. Known as Little India, but also the other side of it.

So there's Roosevelt Avenue once. sides, Indian, the other side's like a little Mexico. And then there's like a little enclave of Colombians. I don't know why I grew up there. But anyway, the point that I'm trying to make is if you go there right now, like I would love to bring any one of you guys. So like let's go stroll up Roseville Avenue. I went to St. John's.

I know all of us. So you know what I'm talking about. Dude, no joke. First of all, you will see these. It's the same. I'm not going to make any ethnic distinctions here of discrimination. but it's the same biotype of woman. She will be pregnant with a double stroller and like three or four kids around.

Like all within a year apart from each other. I'm not kidding. This is a standard Saturday afternoon in Jackson Heights. Where do you think the money comes to pay for them? Us. It's our hard-earned tax dollars to Uncle Sam. And then based on New York City and New York State programs, it's $300. bucks for kid for food stamps and then another $250 of cash assistant per child.

Yeah. And then they get rental assistant. Yeah. And they get full blown, health care because that's the Clinton bill from when she was in the Senate. It's just so much giving that you eventually stop and think like, wait, this family costs the American taxpayer dollars about 40 to 60k a month. And you crunch the numbers. You crunched the numbers. You crunched the numbers. What? Our population is declining as Americans. We're not having enough kids. That's just true. And then they're coming here. Do the math. That's a replacement that's occurring. This is why the White House came out. The State Department came out and said, this is replacement migration. And so, you know, people would dismiss this and say, oh, that's a kooky conspiracy theory.

That's President Trump. Look what's happening in London. Looks like happening in Paris. Look what's happening in Toronto. Toronto is the most egregious case I've ever seen my entire life. I know. I think London is worse in Toronto. It could be. Having been to both places recently. Yeah. London's certainly more violent. No, no, it's not about violence. I'm talking about replacement migration. There's no Brits or Canadians in either city. I mean, unbelievable.

I will say things. The teeth alignment has gotten incredibly incredibly better in London. You gotta give them, throw them a bone. I won't throw a bone. There are much better teeth going around in London right now. But holy crap. I mean, dude, I don't know. I was in London recently and I struggle to find a proper.

proper, a proper Brit. Yeah. Like, everything was kind of like, you know, sweet and light coffee. Yeah. It's like Connor Tomlinson, a few MPs, and that's it. That's it. It's like wild. That was why the hardest, the hardest reasons that they had for getting support for

the kinetic operation, definitely not a war. How dare you call me a stewardess. I'm a flight progress coordinator in Iran because the UK had to worry about their own security if they were going to go in and support the American initiative on that. I mean, they would have, they're a few years down the road ahead of where we're looking, and they have to worry about their own security when they're coming in going, dealing with international affairs. Yeah, I mean, J.D. Vance was talking about this. He was talking about this. I think it was at

NatCon where he was saying, like, we can't even depend on the UK as an ally long term, not because we don't trust the British people, but because the British people might be gone. So it's like, how do you build an alliance with a people that are getting replaced where it could be an entirely different country in 30, 40 years? It's a very salient point. But to steel man, the other side, the same thing's happening in the United States. Like I agree J.D. Vance, but also the same thing's happening here. Now, granted, Trump has took, take the boot off our neck and we're making progress. But still, we have the same problem. The entire Western Hemisphere, or sorry, the entire Western civilization is having the same problem, which is this country that we know and we can look around and observe is going away. It's leaving. It's not going to come back either. You can't resurrect that. So you have to stop it now and reverse the replacement migration. So what I'm hearing is if our goal is reverse migration then, and, almost having no net migration coming in the country, we need to, A, make it toxic and restrictive of the migrants that we choose to bring into the country. And just, I have to note this,

Senator John Cornyn shared a welcome to the Indian century talking about how 70% of our H-1B visas are coming from India. And here's the most damning part of the article. It was talking about how India is so young compared to China that the Indian youth make up such a, they have huge unemployment. And so therefore America has to come in. We know they're very, you know what, active. But number two is, guys, use the Florida model. When everybody else was shutting everything down, what did Florida do?

It became the free state. It became the open state. We need to incentivize American families having American babies. make migration restrictive and all these problems that we're talking about, we can solve over time. Use the carrot we have to. Use the stick when we have to. Yeah, I mean, because every, yeah, and it's like every, no matter what your issue is in politics, whether it's, you know, foreign policy, whether it's abortion, whether, whatever, you name it. These are all downstream from immigration because, again, immigration is what determines the demographics.

And as we're finding out, again, with further, every election cycle that comes along, that elections are becoming more of a sense. And so while it is true that you're seeing shifts among like Hispanics in particular, again, immigrants by and large still vote Democrats. So as you increase and so to the second generation. This is just continues. And that is changing and that's a good thing. But again, we can't like make policy based off of like what we're think might happen. Like we have to act on the ground. Like what's happening? What's the reality on the ground right now? So my point is with immigration, with replacement migration, as this continues, Republicans will be more politically unviable in national elections. And that's just the reality of the situation. So it's like this is why. This is why. I made the initial point. Whatever your issue is, and however valid it is, maybe it even takes precedent above immigration in your level in your life, again, if the composition of the country changes, if it ceases to be an American, then you're not going to be able to get those politicians in office who will be able to enact those policies. It'll be impossible.

It'll be a Democrat rule. This is case and point, why they're so desperate for amnesty, because they know that ensures Democrat rule in states like California and states like New York, even states like New Jersey. They know. They know. All these people are sitting there waiting, and as soon as they get their sense, they citizenship, federal elections. They're in. They can go vote. It's game over. If you reorient to what the actual social compact says, and it's a very finite amount of responsibilities that the

American people have their demand and expect from their government. We agreed to give up some of our liberties a limited amount in order as that we had protection of the borders, ensuring our sovereignty, coin some money, but don't, you know, be printing it out of thin air to the point where the dollars in my bank account are worthless, signed some treaties, and protect, and protection against fraud and force. And that's about it. If you're focusing on that as your prime directive, then that is going to result in a stronger currency. Your inflation will not be exorbitant. It will result in sovereignty at our borders. We're not going to have 30, 40, 50 million illegal aliens flooding across. They're going to be pushing people out of the workplace,

pushing people out of the housing market, pushing people out of their communities because they're not going to be able to accommodate the amount of parking spots or sewage that's going through or the schools or the hospitals, if you had an actual government that was focused on the very finite amount of responsibilities that are actually documented in the pesky, dusty documents, as opposed to what they think is in the invisible ink on the back of the Declaration of Independence in the Good and Plenty Clause, as they are asserting to us, then you would actually have objectively good operational. This is why Anne Colter said on my show, she said, everything in your life becomes easier

with mass deportations, because of every reason you cited jobs, housing, even little things, where do they occupy infrastructure, that they shouldn't be here. they're taking up sewage. Like, these are very, these are things that directly impact you on a daily basis. And these things can be solved again with if we just had a serious, we don't need to be like, you know, that people have these descriptions of what they want. I'm like, we just have a serious deportation process. What Trump and the administration has made good strides in, but we need a serious deportation effort,

and these things will solve themselves. It's not complicated. Uh, I, I, totally not complicated. You know who makes it complicated? the 435 idiots in the lower chamber and the 100 idiots in the higher chamber of Congress. That's overcomplicating the immigration issue is an elect it's an election stump, right? So let's just pretend we solve immigration. What are Democrats going to campaign about?

What are Republicans going to fearmonger about? That's just a point blank why. You can't fix it because then Democrats won't have anything to complain about and say, Republicans are stealing it. And Republicans won't be like, they're going to open the spigot. It takes away election fodder and rhetoric. So like everything in D.C., it's not fixed because politicians need it for their political stump speeches, for their re-election speeches and campaigns.

That's the problem. Promising to do something. Yeah. Not actually doing. Look how mad the pro-life lobby got at Trump because they overturned Roevi Wade. Now they have a lot of trouble fundraising. And then these people bring the claws out for them. And I'm like, so you had like undying loyalty to like George Bush,

who didn't really make any progress at all on the abortion issue. President Trump, who he put it on the like the back burner. This is like, when you think about President Trump, you don't think of him as a pro-life firebrand. And he casually is like, oh yeah, by the way, I'll overturn Roe v. Wade. And then it happened. And they were furious because they lost the one thing that they could fundraise on,

which was overturned Murphy Wade. Big baby, that's a whole idea. Big baby. Yeah. And it's like, and I'm like, and I'm like, hey, maybe we should show a little respect to the guy that actually like delivered you the biggest victory. in your lifetime, but no, it's like, oh, he took away my fundraising.

That's the whole thing with D.C. everything's about money. I've said this before in so many different formats. I think we've had these conversations, too, in our drives, Chris. It's all about money. Well, yeah, I mean, that's the same reason why California has a permanent homeless crisis is because of the money. I mean, it's... Karen Bass wants to teeth them, though.

Huh? Karen Bass wants to put teeth in their mouths now because meth is not the problem. At least somebody's got priorities in that crazy state. Wonderful. I don't know, man. Look, I think it's just the big takeaway from today is simple. Don't cross the president because he's still the king of the party. And it's dumb.

It's it's going to cost you your election. And I think another takeaway is no seat is safe. No seat is safe. twerking is a viable political strategies. Oh, that torquing is a viable political strategy. That's a very promising young woman running in Michigan. Shelby, Shelby, whatever. Maybe Massey could have maybe taken a page.

I would literally throw bleach on my eyes if Massey started turkey. You remember what Trump talking about injecting it? Massey. Massey. I love that. Oh, my God. All over my face. What did you think sassy for Massey look like vibes? Sassy, Massey.

Sassy, Massey. That's funny. Well, look, I got to say, this. This has been loads of fun. Some people in the chat might disagree. Can't please them all. I've been called the Fat Hobbit. That means you're over the target.

That means you're over the target, by the way. Some dude literally said the Fat Hobbit speaks again. I'm like, what? Am I supposed to sit here silent? But anyway, Chris, where can everybody find you and, you know, follow? Well, means. Chriscar 17 on X. You can also join my substack.

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