Timcast IRL - Tim Pool & Crew CRASH White House Press Briefing And Liberal Media IS PISSED w/ Andy Roth & Jordan Pace

Episode Date: April 23, 2025

Tim, Phil, & Raymond are joined by Andy Roth & Jordan Pace to discuss liberals losing it over Tim Pool's appearance at the White House Press Briefing, Hasan Piker fooled by the Democrat 'Deported Maryland Man' hoax, the DNC imploding under David Hogg, and Trump ending Biden's student loan forgiveness. Hosts: Tim @Timcast (everywhere) Phil @PhilThatRemains (X) Raymond @raymondgstanley (X) Serge @SergeDotCom (everywhere) Guests: Andy Roth @andyroth (X) Jordan Pace @Jscottpace (X) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

you know today was a rather slow news day we do have some stories the trump administration is canceling student loan forgiveness and they're going to begin collections. A bunch of really small stories and some independent research. It looks like Elsagate has returned and YouTube is promoting to hundreds of millions of viewers, probably babies, creepy AI videos, just like we saw almost 10 years ago. Now, we do have a bunch of other smaller stories, but today we actually were going back and forth on this. And I want to stress, I wasn't so sure if we should lead with me and ourselves, but I guess we will, because this actually is a top trending story on X. It's the third largest trending story or highest trending story in

the country that I sat in the new media seat, I, Tim Poole, and asked a question about the media lying in what's called the Maryland Man Hoax. And boy, is the media pissed about it. We knew they would be, and I thought I was being rather professional. So we can break down exactly how this went down and why I was at the White House and the reaction to it. But this does strike at the core of the Abrego Garcia story in which the media has been lying. And following the question I asked in the briefing room, which was intending to highlight the media is lying about this story. They are continuing to lie and claim that a man from El Salvador,

we got the court documents, is actually from Maryland. Now, from means you originated from this place. It's a lie. So we'll go through that. And I got a bunch of great interviews today at the White House. It was a very interesting day. We have a lot to talk about. And we will be rolling out interviews in the next couple of days as well. But we can discuss some of what was said. Before we get started, my friends, head over to Bunker.Life. That's B-U-N-K-R dot life.

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But there are 50 state capitals out there. There are 50 swamps in the 50 state capitals. And I will strenuously argue that they are swampier than D.C. We can get into that if you want. But we help the network that I run. We help create state freedom caucuses. So we have a South Carolina Freedom Caucus, a Maryland Freedom Caucus, Illinois, Arizona, Pennsylvania, on and on. We've got 13 of them. The goal is to get into all 50. California,

Vermont, going to take some time, but we'll get there eventually. And the way to get back this country is from the states right on and sir who are you uh i'm jordan pace i'm the uh chairman of the south carolina freedom caucus i'm state representative uh right outside of charleston south carolina and uh been a long time listener of the show excited to be here and tell you all about what we're doing right on in the south should be fun we got raymond hanging out hey guys it's uh raymond i work here at timcast and i look forward to talking to you gentlemen about the freedomcus and what you got going on, as well as Tim blowing up the news today. That's going to be exciting.

Phil. Hello, everybody. My name is Phil Labonte. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains. I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary. Let's get into it. Here's the story. I want to say this first. The reason why we put up the normally we have the waiting room up 20 minutes early it's because we originally going to go with the student debt forgiveness uh from trump but uh the crew here i think you know agreed i i had asked him this actually was a top trending story i hate to make myself the news but that's what happened mediate reports beanie clad tim pool

tees up carolyn levitt to bash media in softball appearance at White House briefing. I love it. I'll just read what my question was. I said, many of the news organizations that are represented in this room have marched in lockstep on false narratives, such as the Very Fine People hoax, the Covington smear, and now it's being called the Maryland Man hoax, where an MS-13 gang member, adjudicated by two different judges, I believe, is just simply being referred to as a Maryland man over and over. Now, in an effort from the White House to expand access to new companies, you've created this new media seat. So I'm wondering if you can comment

on this, on following this expansion. You've had numerous outlets disparage the companies that you've had sit here, as well as the reporters. I'm wondering if you would comment on that unprofessional behavior, as well as elaborate if there's any plans to expand access to new companies. And Karen Levitt certainly did then point out the Maryland man story. This is wrong from the get go. We have known that this man, Abrego Garcia, is not a quote unquote Maryland man. He is from El Salvador. I'm not going to waste your time. I'm going to show you the document literally right here. This is the actual court document from 2019, which states, number one, he is not a citizen or national of the U.S. Two, he's a native of El Salvador. Three, he entered at an unknown place in an unknown date. And four, was not admitted or paroled by an immigration officer

at a master calendar hearing. The respondent through counsel admitted the factual allegations contained in the NTA and conceded removability as charged. I want to stress admitted the factual allegations. This is not a Maryland man. These are lies that they are perpetuating. So I was invited to come down to the White House and I was asked if if there was anyone we'd like to interview. We did an interview with Secretary Kristi Noem with, I believe the appropriate title is DAP, Deputy Assistant to the President. I could be doing that wrong. Sebastian Gorka, as well as Secretary of Transportation Sean Duffy. And we'll be rolling out those interviews as it's there's a story to how we film it. They've you know, the computers

are not simple like we do where we have this like straight you record it live and you go. They had to send us a link. So now we have the files, we're going to put it start putting up tomorrow. But I was asked at the last minute if I would like to take the new media seat to which I said yes. And my question is not a softball. Just because the let me explain this problem. Okay, to all the people right now, you know, I'm trending, They're all talking about it. Some are happy. Some are mad. The corporate press lies.

OK, I just showed you this man admitted to being from El Salvador. This is not not in question. He admitted to being removable. He admitted to entering unlawfully. He did get a withholding of deportation. That's not being disputed. Why is the media using the phrase Maryland man to refer to a guy from El Salvador who is only here illegally? They are doing it because they are factual but not truthful.

It is a fact the man for now is illegally residing in Maryland, but that does not make him a Maryland dad. It makes him an illegal immigrant arrested in Maryland. And if that's the narrative they went with, an illegal immigrant arrested in Maryland, Ebre that's the narrative they went with, an illegal immigrant arrested in Maryland, Ebrego Garcia, I wouldn't be having this conversation with all of you right now. The point that I was bringing up to this secretary, I'm sorry, to the press secretary, was that the media in this room is largely composed of an incurious, uncurious group of people who do not investigate and they use each other as sources and say the same narrative. Not a single one of them is concerned about the fact that they didn't actually pull the court documents and that they're falsely representing that this man is, quote,

from Maryland. And it is so egregious, in fact, that Hassan Piker, one of the biggest streamers on the left, did not know. I'm not kidding. I'll play the video for you. He was absolutely unaware that Abrego Garcia was an illegal immigrant from El Salvador. And if you wonder why liberals are shocked by the story, this is why. People like Hassan Piker don't read the news. He gets talking points from the corporate press who keep saying a Maryland man, Maryland man. Hassan then genuinely believes this guy is just some American guy born and bred in Maryland who was deported. Now, if I thought this guy was born and bred in America and deported to a seat to seek out

in El Salvador, I'd be calling for his release, too. But see, we here at Timcast actually do research. And so my question was, these news outlets are ragging on us And we are but one seat in this room. When they said, Tim, would you like to take the new media seat? I said, sure. I had spoken with Elad. Elad said, I really think you should ask about these Chinese nationals that Riley Moore wants to remove from this country, ship their student visas. Rep Riley Moore has introduced this bill.

And I said, that's actually a really good question. However, I have another question. They've created this new media space. We're just companies. That's it. Okay. The Daily Wire is a company. Breitbart is a company. War Room is a company. We have large viewerships. We reach a lot of people. We have questions we want to ask. Now, what offends me is that these journalists in the room, they march in lockstep on lies. I could go through a big list for all of you, but I named only three for time. The very fine people hoax, the Covington smear and the Maryland man hoax. But how about the lab leak hoax?

How about the drinking bleach hoax? How many times are they going to all in unison lie about what's going on. So my frustration is when they bring in but one chair, one chair for someone like me to sit in the New York Times, Politico, numerous journalists from various outlets all begin disparaging us as if what really matters to those people is that their sick club of lying sycophants pretend like they're speaking truth to power. In which case, when I say these large, massive multimedia corporations are lying to the American people, it's a softball, which implies I'm supposed to be grilling Carolyn Leavitt for some reason. No, I'm seeking a comment from the press secretary on the fact that they have allowed

all of this media in the room who just lie all day every day. And there's one chair in this room for new media who's doing something different, which is why I ended by asking if there was a if there was a plan or effort to expand access. Now, she didn't answer it. I don't fault her for that. She did give her answer, saying the media is pushing this Maryland man, Maryland man hoax. That was a gist of that story. And of course, now the media and the press are losing their mind. And that's me speaking. But I don't know if if you guys, I guess, because, you know, I've essentially put myself in the news, have questions about what happened or what do you think?

Or, you know, I have one big question. Yeah. And it's the top of my mind is after you said that after the press conference was over, did you have any reporters come up to you and say, you're right, but I got a job to do? Or were they giving you side eyes and nasty looks? So I'm sitting down and I can't really see much of the room. They brought me in through the same – it's crazy. The doors are these big, thick, like steel, and they slide open. And I came through the same door as the press secretary, as Carolyn Leavitt.

So when I walked in, the room was full. I sat in a chair. And when I walked out, I walked out through the same room. So obviously their view is going to be the wife invites me in. I come in with them. I ask them this question that makes the press look bad. And then we all walk out. No one told me what to say.

They didn't. There was zero direction. And I actually warned them I was seeking to disparage the press because I'm offended by their lies. And they just chuckled and said, hey, look, just just, you know, ask whatever you want, I suppose. And I actually said, I'm considering asking just a very straightforward question, opening those professionally with this bill that Rep. Riley Moore has to strip the visas

from Chinese nationals. And they were like, we're not we're not gonna tell you what to do, just whatever matters. And so I figured a lot's got this. He's got the straightforward, serious questions. I actually wanted to say a lot more, but I figured I'd stick to decorum because what I was going to say is to all the people in the room, I will never sit in this chair again. If they just open up the seats in this room to other media companies that are at least trying to find the truth. All of these journalists in there, all their outlets report the exact same things. Now, they have brought in, I think, around 20 percent have been from new media outlets, but they're all standing up. Why is Mary Margaret from The Daily Wire

standing off to the side when they're arguably getting more viewership on these issues than many of the people sitting in those chairs? I keep thinking about the Michael Malice quote. No matter how much you hate the corporate media, you don't hate them enough. He's got so many good ones. There's so many. Because there's also factual but not truthful. Correct. And that's exactly what they do.

And that's what they're doing now. Yeah, so it was pretty wild. The corridors you go through and the security you go through is obviously insane. The rooms are very small. And I got to tell you, it's my first time actually having open access in the White House.

And it was, it's a weird place. There's a bowling alley. Oh. Truman Bowling Alley. I played there. Have you really? Yeah, I actually broke it. How did you break it?

There was a group of us, like six of us, and we threw a couple of sets or frames, and then something happened, and they had to shut it down. So tell me what it's like when you're, because this is what I was experiencing, but I'd rather have you say it. What is it like walking to that bowling alley? Well, it's underneath the old executive office building right next door. The White House is not just the building, the White House. It's the eight acres that includes the old executive office building and then the

South Lawn and everything. And so to get there, you go down into the basement and it's underneath the old executive office building. Describe the basement. I can't even remember. It just felt like a cave. If you go into the tunnels underneath the Capitol office buildings, it's the same sort of thing. It's where you want to go when a nuclear strike happens or something. I'm 5'10". If you're 5'11", you're not going to enjoy it. There's pipes that are at my head. The ground is like a floating grate.

And it was like this way to the vending machines. And I felt like I was not supposed to be down there. Because it's a weird industrial factory looking tunnel. And then there's this like step and this door that looks like a closet. And it says there's a little gold placard bowling alley. And I was like, what? It was locked. I couldn't get in.

I was going to say it was powered by Vault-Tec. Yeah, right. Yeah. So I didn't have any. The funny thing is the only press that come up to me were actually fans. I mean, there's a decent amount of people that are in there that are right leading or equally as concerned with the lies the media keeps pushing on these narratives. And I got up and walked right out. I didn't know what I was supposed to do.

So they were like, have a seat here. And then I'm like, when they were leaving and they opened the side door again, I'm like, I guess I just go back the way I came. Like walk out with them and everything. But it was cool. I mean, they'll let you know really quickly if you go the wrong way, I imagine. Well, I'm actually pretty sure that if I didn't follow them, they would have just closed the door. That makes sense as well. Yeah.

Well, I mean, the whole stick here, not stick, apologies, but IRLs calling it the media and calling it their lies for the last bunch of years. So I'm glad you went on the main stage in the freaking White House in front of all those scumbags, media folks, and called them out in front of their faces. Yeah, I mean, look, the legacy media has been extremely critical of not just alternative media and podcasters, but of Tim personally. There's nothing wrong with going into the White House briefing room and rubbing their nose in it. I mean, honestly, what's wrong with going into the into the white house briefing room and rubbing their nose in it i mean honestly what's wrong with it we they have been and they've written hit piece after hit piece after hit piece about again about tim personally tim cast and the podcasting space

and alternative media they have lost badly and there's nothing wrong with going in there and reminding them you you are not in control of this this is not your room this is the this is a room paid for by the american people and so having access people like tim or or whether it be the daily wire or whoever having access for them is just as legitimate as abc or nbc or msnbc it's not it's more legitimate. Not just legitimate, but necessary. Yeah. Again, the Daily Wire is getting substantially more traffic than many of

the news outlets that are given seats. And still, very much this cabal, the White House, what is it, the White House Press Corps, the Correspondents Association or whatever, still has a lot of control in this space. And I'll tell you what was really freaky, just as an aside, is, you know, I'm planning on asking this question. And I had a variety of ways to frame it.

And the moment the briefing starts, Carolyn Levitt says, I'd like to give a round of applause to this photographer who's been here for 44 years. And the whole room is clapping with smiles on their faces for this journalist. And I was like, oh, no. I i was like it's this woman's retirement she's been here for 44 years i i do respect that because it's the it's the newer class of these woke millennial types that i'm much more provoked by i would argue and then i'm like well time to rag on the media now after everyone just cheered for this woman and uh that actually got me pretty nervous. At first, I was very arrogant. Like I sat down like, I am going to destroy.

And then they all started clapping and cheering. This woman, I was like, now I feel bad. I was like, oh no. Let me play this clip. This is important. This is Hasan Piker. Oh, this guy. For those that are not familiar,

this guy is one of the most prominent leftist streamers. And he was shocked to see me in this chair. But what this clip reveals is that he literally did not know that Abrego Garcia, the MS-13 gang member, illegal immigrant, was from El Salvador. Listen to this. Let me start from the beginning. And the Covington smear. And now what's being called the Maryland man hugs, where an MS-13 gang member adjudicated

by two different judges, I believe, is just simply being referred to as a Maryland man over and over again. Is he not a Maryland man? I'll have you believe, sir. He's actually not from Maryland. He's from D.C. He's not from Maryland. He's from El Salvador. And he thought the point I was making was nitpicking whether it was D.C. or Maryland as opposed to pointing out this guy illegally under the country as the court has already determined that is that what beanie boy

saying he is not a man he's not a man from maryland yeah maryland is fake russia today correspondent tim pool yeah yeah i love i love the centrist liberal tim pool hey guys an uptrust liberalism wait is he wearing a a hoodie under his like suit jacket? Oh, gross. It's literally just a single hoodie. Look at this. It's a true classic hoodie. They're not very expensive. Brother, suit jacket, hoodie, beanie combo is so gross, dude.

I thought this was a really good opportunity to break down a lot of the problems in the corporate press and alternative media. Hassan doesn't even know what I'm wearing. And he's speaking to millions, millions of people. But the important thing is, I show you this once again, and I can't believe the OK, guys, I got I got to tell you. First, there was a horse. The horse died and we started beating the dead horse. OK, we are this story is a dead horse being beaten over and over again. We pulverized it into glue yesterday and cat food. Now it is just probably ash and charcoal and maybe the teeth remaining because if we keep, I don't know how many times I can point this out.

He is not a citizen international of the U.S. He's a native of El Salvador. This is the, can you pull this up? This is the court document showing dude is from El Salvador. But the reason I stress this again, the first thing I'll say is it's for those that are watching the live show. You're like, Tim, you just told us this. Yes, but this this will be a segment specifically addressing Hassan. When people like Hassan pull up these news stories and they march in lock, they genuinely believe like CNN's telling me the truth. He goes, he's not from Maryland. What's he from, D.C.? It's like, no, my dude, he's he's from El

Salvador. But people like Hassan don't do any journalistic work. They don't research. They don't pull up documents. So he actually thinks and I feel bad for him because I understand his anger. Hassan believes that Donald Trump accidentally arrested an American citizen from Maryland and deported him to El Salvador. I mean, that would terrify me, too. We've we've said on the show numerous times American citizens should not be going to El Salvador. But this is what the corporate press does. The the the fascinating thing I believe about all this is that it reminds me of the defund the police thing, which is a portion of the left gets fixated on something and it takes over the entire left side of the aisle

to the point where they look absolutely berserk and crazy. And when you've got a senator and four congressmen going down to El Salvador to a prison to meet and shake hands and have margaritas with an MS-13 gang member, you're not even crazy anymore. You're like certifiably insane. And so like if you want to pulverize the horse, kill it, turn it into glue, cat food, turn it into ash. I say we just keep doing it until they stop talking about it. Because it's our issue. We've won it. And we're going to win tomorrow and the next day and the next day. A little context about this guy. He specifically said that there are baby settlers. He takes the side of Hamas. He specifically said that there are baby settlers and that how he doesn't judge how people rise up. He's literally had Houthi terrorists on his stream. He said that he said, tell he's speaking to he's speaking to a translator who's translating to the Houthi terrorists.

Tell him that we believe that he's doing what Luffy would do. Luffy is a character from One Piece, which is a manga. And so he literally takes the side of terrorists. He straight up has said that America deserved 9-11. Came out and said it. So he. Better be careful. Trump might deport him.

Yeah, I would love it. He's it he's a he's an anchor baby he's an anchor baby um but like he he actually kind of is emblematic of the left in that they can't help but take the side of the bad guys the left was on the side of the people that were firebombing cities across the country in 2020. The former vice president, Kamala Harris, was actually advertising a website to help pay for the legal fund for people that were arrested, not for protesting, but for actually rioting. Kamala Harris took a picture with, I forget the guy's name, he was the guy that was shot by the police because he was about to take off with a car full of kids. He had a knife.

Jacob Blake. He's the reason that Kenosha burned down. The vice president went and took pictures with him. The left continually sides with people that are not just on the left, but they literally side with criminals and the bad guys. It's not a bug either. Yes. It's a feature. I mean, that's a feature of the system.

I agree. But I also think there's a point to be made in that, you know, some of these guys just aren't smart enough to do the digging. And, you know, obviously there's a lot of people who would rather just insult and rag on Hassan. And you take the low road. Serge is raising his hand. But I'm going to say this with sincerity. I think the dude genuinely just believes too much fake stuff and doesn't know what's real. And so, like, I'll say it again. I mean, when the news initially broke about the administrative error, my position was, OK, the deported illegal immigrant is an administrative error. They shouldn't have done this. And I get a bunch of people now saying that he is part of a terrorist organization.

Here's the evidence. Here's the image of his tattoos. Here's the informant giving his rank. Here's the arrest report showing him with known gang members. Here's his wife trying to cover up his tattoos. And it's a wife beater. And I'm like, I see. I see. So what's the remedy then for the administrative error is a USCIS interview. That's it. Now, I did do an interview. I had an interview with Secretary Noem, and we actually spoke for about half an hour. But at least in this regard, she said, at this point, it's out of our jurisdiction. He is not an American citizen. There's no remedy for this. He can have a USCIS interview if he finds his way back here somehow, but it's not going to happen. There's no reality where that happens. If he does come back, he will simply get his hearing and be deported immediately. So they're arguing for this administrative tool to the it's worth the point now where Senator

Van Hollen is backed away saying, I don't care if he's deported. If he came back, they'd say, OK, wait, before you go to the country, USCIS agent, how are things in El Salvador? They've arrested all of the gang members. OK, bye. Back in the plane. Go home. For Mr. Andy, your question of beating the, I have a question for you. Yeah. The problem with the right a lot of times is we always follow the narratives of the left. We let them tell us the stories, and Tim's been beating, we've been beating this dead horse for months, for weeks now. Why can't we just stop and start talking about what we want to talk about and have them follow us instead of us follow them? I think the chief reason is because the deck is stacked against us

because the corporate media is so large and funded so predominantly by corporate interests that it's tough to suffocate that noise and talk about what we want to. I mean, gosh, Caroline Leavitt would be happy to talk about what we want to talk about every day. But when there's only one guy in the room who's... Doesn't Donald Trump just tweet and set the narrative? I feel like what you're saying is actually contrary to the reality. It's a tug of war. I would agree with you because we have talked about it before that I've said in the past,

we need to start telling them what the story is. And we've been increasingly doing it. I think this election, the podcast presidency, was the inflection point where this is a tug of war. So Signalgate versus Maryland Man Hoax is a good example of this. Well, actually, they probably ran face first on accident. But see how they're trying to shift back to Pete Hegseth. It's a whole story. Signalgate was a month ago. Like we're over this. This news cycle has moved on. But they initially tried to make us care about a circumstance not worth caring about. That a journalist was accidentally given access to partial information related to strikes in Yemen. No times, no targets, no locations, no weapons, vehicles, yes. And I'm sorry, I should say partial times, but without location.

And by all means, you can criticize it. But journalists get access to this information all the time. So, like, what's the story? They desperately tried to make us care about that. And we just walked away from it for the most part. We did talk about it for sure. But they, so I would say this, if you track the news cycle and look at the corporate press, they talked about it for about a week and a half longer than we did. It was nuts how many like panels they were doing on it. It was kind of funny. Yeah, this is, this has been, like I said,

it's a, it's a feature, not a bug. If you go all the way back to the French Revolution, you got Marat and the guys running the papers. Once they realized, hey, we can turn on this outrage machine and have trump and the white house tweeting about it if we've got a few pointed media companies that are thoughtful about it and uh yeah this this was the inflection point in this election where i think we're starting to get the hang of it i think that's right i do want to just add a quick aside before we move on is uh harry sisson tried coming after me he said uh tim pool cried about president zelensky not wearing a suit when he met with Trump. But this is how Tim showed up to the White House today. Zip up jacket and a beanie.

Maybe he shouldn't be such a hypocrite. Did you meet Trump? When I met Trump, I wore a suit. Yeah. And I went to a very nice clothing store in West Palm Beach. And they actually instructed me that the beanie was correct for the suit that I was wearing. And I laughed and I said, let's go! They explained

to me that they actually do sell hats, and I said, but this is not formal, right? Would this be considered rude? And they're like, no, no. It's perfectly fine. And I was like, really? And they were like, yes, of course. And they had similar hats, but I was like, I'm going to wear it. Most of the talking points that you're hearing from the left, especially people like Hassan and like Harry Sisson, it's just a vehicle for the ad hominem.

Right. It's not about there's no substantive criticism. It's just a vector of attack. So that way they can insult him personally because they have no substance. They can't say, oh, you're wrong about the media. You're wrong about your question. The premise of your question was wrong. They can't say, oh, you're wrong about the media. You're wrong about your question. The premise of your question was wrong. They can't do that. So they just have to say, well, you know, look at how dumb his hat is.

Look at how dumb his clothes are. Blah, blah, blah, blah. It's literally got no substance. That was my response. Who wants to read it? To be fair, it's a cool hoodie. What I actually responded saying, I wasn't meeting with the president. When I met with the president, I did wear a suit.

And this is, you know, I was asked before. It's like, hey, you're going. Should I get a suit jacket or something? I'm like, for the press briefing? I was like, I'm not dressing up for these people. And some were saying, yeah, but what about Carolyn Levert disrespecting her? I'm like, yeah, calm down. It's a fake.

It's fake nonsense. If you're coming when Zelensky went to the World Economic Forum, he wore a suit that was before the war. But regardless, now he shows up to Trump and he's wearing he's dressed down and Trump didn't really care that much. But he did get criticized for that. But let's jump to this. This next story. We have this tweet from Gunther Eagleman. He says watching David Hogg almost single handedly fracture his party into two pieces is phenomenal. He said that one of his main objectives is to unseat Democrats, but then refuses to name anyone.

Says he's willing to put up a 200 million dollars to get it done. James Carville and other Democrats are now calling for his removal as DNC vice chair. Pure cinema right here. They're imploding more than they already were. I don't want to give this guy too much airtime. I will play a little bit of this, but we have another clip of David Hogg getting absolutely annihilated because he has no idea what he's talking about. And he's destroying the Democratic Party. So right now, let me be clear.

This is not specifically when it comes to the candidates that we are targeting. It's not just, oh, if you're over a certain age, you should not be doing this. Unfortunately, there are people of all ages who are failing to meet this moment in different ways right now. What we're looking at are the it's not out with the old and in with the new. It is out with the ineffective and in with the effective. And part of what we're doing with this announcement is waiting to see who retires here and and says, you know what, it is time. I'm not ready to meet this moment anymore. And I know for a lot of our members that that they will decide that ultimately. So the reason why I like that is what he's basically saying is he wants all Democrats to self-deport. He's basically saying we're going to launch a massive campaign against you. Why don't you retire?

I got to be honest. That's actually the right thing to do. What Donald Trump is doing. And this is something that Secretary Noem told me is that getting getting message out to illegal immigrants, leave now of your own volition. Otherwise, you will face penalties. It's going to increase self-deportation. People are just going to leave. And that saves you money. If David Hogg can convince incumbent Democrats to quit out of fear,

retire now before it's too late, he's going to save himself a fat sack of cash. But now we have this, where on ABC News, David Hogg, and he's like one of one of four or like three vice chairs of the DNC. Is that his position? Yeah. He gets absolutely obliterated in this clip. Check this out. Let me let me tee this up. This is the future of the Democratic Party. This is important. Got no message. They've got they've got no movement.

They've got no leader. I mean, it doesn't get any worse than that. I mean, you're defending Harvard. You're traveling El Salvador for MS-13 gang members. But here's the point. You're taking $20 million. If I'm looking at someone, my vice chair at the RNC, taking $20 million for another effort, it's $20 million out of the DNC's pocket. You can't be on the board of the fishing and forest company and on Greenpeace at the same time. There are places for the party accountable, I think it's right. Yeah, let me push back against that. This was not an MS 13 gang member and you damn well know that.

Come on. He was not. Please don't stop David Hogg. Please don't stop. I love it. The administration admitted this was wrong. In America, we have due process and we are a land of law and order. We are a land of law and order. And this administration is repeatedly showing time and time again, they do not care about what the Supreme Court says. They do not care about the rule of law.

And you cannot defend sending people to another country. CNN just did a poll. To another country where they don't have rights. Most Americans think that all illegal immigrants should be deported. I'm going to pause real quick because David Hogg is yelling over this dude. He said CNN released a poll that most Americans believe all illegal immigrants should be deported. This is the issue with David Hogg as vice chair and why I would say he is burning down the DNC. I have this. This is the Prince George's County Police Department

gang field interview sheet. This is released by the DOJ. This is the arrest report showing that Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia was arrested with MS-13. OK, I just think it's fairly obvious that if you're wearing MS-13 gang clothes, that in and of itself doesn't really say much. You're wearing a bull's hat in a jersey. However, if you're wearing MS-13 gang clothes, that in and of itself doesn't really say much. You're wearing a Bulls hat and a jersey. However, if you're wearing their specific gang clothes and you are with them, now we're going to start asking questions. Because if you were not part of MS-13,

you might get in trouble with these guys. I genuinely wonder if people don't understand gang culture, but if you're in gang territory wearing the wrong colors, they will come up to you. This is very, very common for people from Chicago. I know I'm beating a dead horse on that one because I'm from there. You'll be walking down the street, and if you're wearing black and gold, someone's going to stop and say, like, are you Latin King?

Like, you're wearing the gang colors. And it's like, bro, I'm just wearing gym shorts. You don't even know. And this is common. So not only do we have evidence, okay, evidence that when officers then interviewed Kilmer Armando Obrego Garcia during the interview, officers observed he was wearing a bull's hat and hoodie with rolls of money covering the eyes and ears and mouth, which is indicative of ver or, I don't know how to pronounce that, oi yi kalar, see no evil, hear no evil, say no evil,

wearing a Chicago bull's hat represents they're a member in good standing with MS-13. And then they interviewed an individual who said that he was a Chiqueo right here. He had the rank of Chiqueo with the moniker of Chele. And then, of course, here is the document I've shown 50 billion times already that asserts in a court in the hearing for removal that he is a citizen of El Salvador. So for David Hogg to then go on the show and say, you know, damn well, he was not. I feel like these people can't save their own party for the life of them. Well, I'll make a prediction. I bet you're not going to see David Hogg on TV in the next couple of months.

As soon as that was over, I bet, you know, there's clearly a void at the top in the Democrat Party. But whether it's Gavin Newsom, who's trying so hard to not be a progressive anymore, even though he is, Rahm Emanuel, who's going online or going on TV saying stop all the woke stuff, whether it's Obama, somebody's calling up David Hogg and saying you're not going to go on TV well that's the question I don't agree we were talking about this yesterday when we were crafting the thumbnails for this show we want to have

there's party leadership for prominent political stories if the story is about sometimes we won't use a political, if the story is really big, like it's Elon Musk. You know, if Elon does a big thing, it's big in the news, the character and the thumbnail will be Elon. There's no Democrat personality that represents the party at all. If I'm wrong, it's because you're right that there is nobody at the top. But what I can tell you is that there's a lot of money that won't there's a lot of checks

that will not be written to the dnc indeed that behavior continues and and what i and i think you are correct so i do believe there's a strong probability that you are correct in the entirety i think however you have split factions in the dnc right now and hog civil war baby internal party civil war the the with the democrats there's going to be the james carville types he called them a little twerp yeah you hear that yeah and and you think david hogg's now going to listen to what he has to say nope and perhaps he's only called it to work because he wouldn't listen in the first place so there's going to be someone with a check for the democratic party and hog's going to say you're not giving that check to me you never were gonna

so i don't care what you think i'm going to say I think. This fracturing is going to – I don't see how at least in the near future they emerge with a coherent party. Well, right now the Democrats don't know what they want to be. They don't know if they want to be progressives or if they want to be closer to mainstream Ro Khanna-style Democrats. And also if they decide to go with the progressives, the very progressives, which David Hogg is one of, they're not going to get any money. They're not going to get donations. They'll get small donations from the the average person that likes, you know, AOC likes Bernie Sanders, and they might be able to get, you know, millions of dollars, but they're not going to get the big checks that go to PACs, which actually make a big difference.

Hillary Clinton spent a billion dollars to lose to Donald Trump. Joe Biden and Kamala Harris spent a billion dollars to lose to Donald Trump. Joe Biden spent a billion dollars when he beat Donald Trump. That's the kind of money that it takes to win an election nowadays. And they're just not an AOC and Bernie Sanders aren't going to get it because they will actually talk about things like taking away, you're changing the corporate or the tax rate on capital gains. So your people that pay 15 percent, they're going to pay 25 percent. They're not going to want to give a donation to them. If they're going to tax unrealized gains, you're going to have to sell your property, pay taxes.

These are the types of policies that AOC and Bernie like, and they're not going to get anyone to give them money. But you guys are – you're involved in this political landscape of fundraising all this stuff. Yeah, very much. So I'm curious with your experience on this. It's interesting because I don't see a reality in which the old guard Democrats begin to agree with the woke new upstarts. So what happens to those – where do those donations go? Do they just stop? How does this play out?

Go ahead. Well, the history doesn't repeat itself, but it rhymes, right? So if you look back through, we've gone through cycles of this in the past on the left and the right, but it's historically some either somebody on the on the right younger side or somebody in the younger side on the left in that rojana style picks up the

mantle and runs with the money or more what's happened on the left more often is one of the older types sees an opportunity adjust their politics and try to take their money that they've you know their historic donors and bring it with them and try to take their money that they've had you know their historic donors and bring it with them and try to marry in the middle and that's kind of what bernie sanders shot for but missed um and if edward clinton probably would have knocked him off the edge he might have been successful with that but that that would be my suspicion where that would i think political donors kind of fall in two camps. One, and this works on both sides of the aisle. There are the principal donors and then there are the transactional donors.

And if the money is not moving where it needs to go in budgets, in federal budgets or state budgets, the transactional donors will stop. And if you're talking about MS-13 illegal aliens or you're talking about transgender surgeries and stuff like that, and that prevents the money from moving in the budgets, the transactional money stops. I know that's a little complicated, but that's how I see the donor community. So are we optimistic then for the midterms, for the next four years? I'm thoroughly blackpilled on just the the economic situation in our country. I mean, we are going into a sovereign debt crisis.

And Trump is correctly trying to steer that Titanic boat and turn it diametrically in the opposite direction. But he's getting hammered by the reality of having 120 percent debt to GDP. And I do not know how we stop that train. The biggest problem that the Republicans are going to face is the economy. And the Republicans need to actually provide good results for the American people, because if they don't, the people that are going to come after them, the Democrats that will end up getting elected because they just the people, the Americans don't like the Republicans because they didn't do enough for them, didn't provide the results they wanted. The people that come after the Republicans are very, very bad. They're your AOCs. They're your Bernie's. And those people will destroy the economy.

They will, because we have, like you said, 120% debt to GDP, and if you start implementing things like the Green New Deal and implementing things like Medicare for All with that kind of debt, you will blow up the dollar, and that has ramifications

that aren't just to the United States, there are ramifications globally. Those are the kind, and that has ramifications that aren't just to the United States. There are ramifications globally. Those are the kind of things that start wars. Well, but I would even go further and say we just need to stop the current spending. And the people that are in the way that are literally blocking us from doing that are Senate Republicans. Yeah, fair enough. So the inflation rate in 1980 was 13 percent, and the Federal Reserve hiked interest rates to nearly 20 percent, and the economy officially entered into a recession. The U.S. federal debt to GDP in 1980 was 34.56.

The current U.S. debt to GDP is 122.7. So we are not producing anything. We're not going to be able to pay down the debt. Probably why the Doge effort is so important, but I don't believe that Doge is moving quickly enough to get our spending down. So you have the debt continuing to increase. In fact, the deficit is still increasing. So the difference, the deficit is how much more we're spending than we make, and the deficit is going up, meaning we're going to exponentially accrue debt faster and faster and faster. And, you know, Ian likes to just say on this show, just default.

That's a war. Just default. That'll be a war. I mean, it's World War III instantly overnight. Well, I would argue that inflation is default. Like, when you buy a $1,000 bond, you expect $1,000 back. But because of inflation, you get less of it. And so the crisis that we're having right now is that if the Fed cuts rates, that means more monies in the system, which means higher inflation.

If they raise rates, that means interest expense that the government has to pay causes inflation. There is no way out of this without inflation. There's a way out of it. We have to cut spending. Right. I mean, that's the only way out is to cut spending. But if you're as black-pilled as I am, there mandatory spending, which is, you know, your Medicare, Medicaid, those are the people that vote the most. And that will not last because they pay. They're of the opinion that they paid in.

So even if you cut all the benefits to everybody 65 and over and said, we have to save the dollar, we have to save the country. They will vote your ass out the very next chance they get. So it's really a situation where I'm very much in the same boat with you. I don't know how to fix it. I think Trump might have a solution. We've got this story from the Postmillennial. Trump admin reverses course on Biden's student debt relief. Only 38 percent of borrowers are current on payments. They have not collected on student loan debt for five years. We've got a statement from the DOE. This is amazing. It says, quote, American taxpayers will no longer be forced to serve as collateral for irresponsible student loan policies, said U.S. Secretary of Education Linda McMahon.

The Biden administration misled borrowers. The executive branch does not have the constitutional authority to wipe debt away, nor do the loan balances simply disappear. That's the interesting one, because I've heard from people they logged into their accounts and the balance simply disappeared. So what happens now? Will it come back? Hundreds of billions have already been transferred to taxpayers going forward. The DOE, in conjunction with the Department of Treasury, will shepherd the student loan program responsibly and according to the law, which means helping borrowers return to repayment both for the sake of their own financial health and our nation's economic outlook. They mentioned 42.7 million borrow borrowers or more than 1.6 trillion in student

debt. This is only 38 percent of borrowers are in repayment and current on their student loans. They say almost 1.9 million borrowers have been unable to even begin repayment because of a processing pause that was put in place by the previous administration. Since August 2024, the department has not processed applications for enrollment in any repayment plan, such as income-based repayment, income contingent repayment, or pay, P-A-Y-E. The department is currently working with federal student loan service servicers and anticipates processing to begin next month. This is going to be interesting. I'm curious what you guys think. I'll tell you what I think.

And then young people, younger millennials or millennials in general with massive debt, whoever had to pay them for five years. They didn't budget for this. They are going to get a shock debt overnight that they thought is gone. And if they do say when they say this debt doesn't disappear, if people log back in and all of a sudden the debt is there or they get a collections bill in the mail saying, sorry, the Supreme Court said Biden could not do this. It is going to be people waking up with negative money. They didn't budget for this. The economy is going to get hurt.

Yeah, I work in, when I'm not in state house, I work in real estate. So primarily commercial real estate, but I do a little bit of residential. And I can tell you people our age, when they're looking, they're waiting longer and longer to buy a house. And the last five years, we've seen a little bit of an uptick of millennials buying their first home because they weren't paying student loans. And they were suspended, so the lenders could count on that. This is going to— Do you guys have any sense as to if—and this is totally hypothetical, and it just popped in my head. I have no idea if there's any any substance to it. But is it is it is it possible that banks have taken these loans and turned them into into securities and have sold them like they did with with with the mortgage mortgage backed securities in in in 2008? I don't know.

But if they did in the hopes that the government was going to pay these things off, because if they said, oh, Biden says that he's going to pay them off and they say, well, we can securitize these. In my experience, if anything can be securitized and financialized, they will. I don't know if they can legally do that. But if they can, they're going to try it. I mean, again, I have no sense as to if they did or not. But if they did, if banks have done this, then this is a ticking time bomb. Well, most of those same banks you're talking about, the big five, they're already sitting on an insurmountable amount of commercial property debt. They're just kicking the can down the road

as long as possible. If that's the case, then that might be the straw that breaks the telephone pole or the telephone pole or yeah, I mean, more than a straw. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. Again, I don't know. But I just thought of that. I was like, well, what if they securitized them? What if they're like, oh, well, the government will take care of them. Joe Biden said. So they're just like, hey. Well, I know banks, private banks used to write student loans and then Obama nationalized it and made it a strictly government enterprise.

And then there's Sally May, which may securitize the loans. I'm not sure, but they're kind of like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. But all of this, when I read headlines like this, that Trump's going to reverse this, I think of two things. One is he's not going to lose any votes, not that he's running for reelection, but the Republican Party is not going to lose any votes on this because these are art history majors that are woke and liberal and protesting on campus. And two is, hey, here's a great idea. Let's learn about personal responsibility again. Okay, so Brave AI says, yes, banks have securitized student loans.

The process involves bundling individual student loans into securities that can be sold to investors. This allows banks to provide liquidity by offering more loans and diversifying their portfolios for investing investors the securitization process typically includes originating the loans bundling them into a pool transferring the pool to a trust rating the securities and so that's the exact same thing they did with mortgage-backed securities that's what mortgage-backed securities were they were backed by mortgages now these securities are just backed by student loans the reason they felt safe to do that is because the government has said they'll guarantee them so if kids like action and they're they're you're not allowed to default on these if i understand correctly so that's probably incentive for them to securitize them as well if kids stop paying these i mean yeah i mean i was i was actually a stock trader before i got into the sleazy business of

politics um and i i but that was 20 years ago so i don't remember but um yeah that begs the question like moody's and s&p like how do they rate these uh securitized loans do they do they rate them according to the the the degree like art history is a minus c and a doctorate is you know they're all triple a you because that's exactly Because that's exactly what they did. It's exactly what they did with the mortgage-backed securities and the aughts. They were all AAA because they knew the government would step in. And the credit rating companies, they were all in on it. Because George Bush had said, we need to make sure that people can buy houses because the government literally had it backwards.

They said if you get a house, that will make you a responsible person as opposed to have responsible people need houses. It was buy a house that will make people pay their bills, that will make people be responsible. There's a degree you can get from Harvard called folklore and mythology. Can we just break this down in terms in business sense? Okay, you go to a bank because you want to open a business. And they say, what will your business do?

And you say, we're going to provide welding services to local construction companies and to B2C and B2B. And they'll say, what's your projected revenue? Well, there's X amount of people that require the services of a welder. And they'll say, okay, so there's another way to look at it. You go to a student loan service provider, whatever servicers, and you say, I want to get a loan so I can learn to be a welder. Why is that? Well, there's X amount of openings for welders. They generate X amount of revenue. You give me this money. I will learn to be a welder and then I will pay you back.

Makes sense. Now, now take a look at folklore at folklore mythology you're going to a bank and saying i'm going to open a business what does your business do we learn about folklore mythology who wants that literally nobody so how are you gonna pay me back no idea we're gonna give you a hundred thousand dollars for this deal and they shake on it I know what a folklore and mythology degree will get you. It qualifies you to be a professor. A dungeon master? No, a professor of folklore and mythology. Indeed it does. Maybe a journalist.

Yeah. Or maybe you can be a communist. Yeah. Well, I tell you, in South Carolina, which is a red state, one of the reasons that the Freedom Caucus Network exists is we, while the Democrats are trying to forgive student loans in South Carolina, we're subsidizing on the front end. So they're getting student loans. Yeah, there are Democrats promising to forgive, but we're spending 50 to 52 million or 57 million dollars in this year's budget to subsidize all these same degrees on the state level.

Like, no matter what it is, whether it's mythology or welding, the mythology ones actually probably get more subsidization. That's ridiculous. Yeah. This is in a red state. The education secretary said, Tim, that hundreds of billions have already been transferred to taxpayers. Right.

So I'm assuming- People got off. So those lucky folks got off where the rest of the folks are going to have pay it back i think ian taxpayers yeah that right yeah he's he got that he woke up one day and he looked at his account was empty the son of a gun you know he didn't know that much but it was you know like 10 grand or something i think i can't remember what he said but gone uh i i don't know i mean the supreme court said you can't do that so just because it's going to be interesting what if trump Trump just says no, bring it back? Reverse it? Yeah, why not? Your debt never

went away. They said that the debt can't be simply erased. So what happens if he just says we have the ledger we'll just click yes. And then it's back. You can't zero it out. Or as quickly as they zero it out they just go to system restore on the computer. Everybody's debt

comes right back. They can do whatever they want for the most part. It's pretty wild when you see people like David Hogg screaming like, they don't care about the rule of law. And it's like, bro, Joe Biden ignored the court like every day and then tried decreeing a constitutional amendment. Literally on his way out, he's like, 20th Amendment is now confirmed. It's like, yeah, Joe, you can't do that. It's the same party of mostly peaceful protests. I mean, it the yeah saying your law and order party while the buildings are on fire behind

you okay we do uh we do love our our very people's peaceful protests but uh we do have another story which is um welcome to the nightmare scenario my friends we've got this tweet from andrew falchuk on axe and he points out the third most viewed video on all of YouTube this week is an AI generated short of a pug that saves a baby from a plane crash. And then they try surviving on an island. I will play some of this for you now. There you go. Make it bigger. There we go.

The baby had a parachute, by the way, and the plane explodes. If you've got parachutes, that's the right move. This is actually awesome. Good dog. The bug then saves the baby. It sounds like Titanic music. Yep. This is creepy.

The dog is now securing a coconut. And make a bottle for the baby. Oh, he's making fish in the coconut. Look at that. Got an opposable thumb. S.O.S. The baby's gotten bigger. And his hair color changed. Black off.

Yeah, right? Why do they have guns? The baby's been saved. So this video I find to be creepy, but not nearly as creepy as it gets. That's the number three video on all of YouTube. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Final Galaxy. This is another one of these AI slop. This is Elsagate. If you don't know what Elsagate is, welcome to the nightmare. About eight years ago, there were a series of videos on YouTube that were going massively viral. It was Spider-Man,

Joker and Elsa running around with with no speaking and they were engaging in gags. These gags became increasingly more and more deranged. At first, it was just the Joker kidnapping Elsa and Spider-Man saving the day. But these these videos are getting hundreds of millions of views. Eventually, they started turning into creepy things like Elsa was pregnant and there would be a woman wearing a pregnant belly and the Joker would have a syringe and he'd be trying to stick her with it. A big plastic fake one getting weirder and weirder. Eventually ended up with the Finger Family songs, which is very much what we are seeing now with this story. Take a look at this. The top two videos, 168 million views, and it's a child in

a Spider-Man costume running from flying hot dogs. The next one is Spider-Man surrounded by hot dogs. There's a Spider-Man fighting a sumo wrestler. There's a Spider-Man with a gun pointed at the Joker. Here's a creepy one of spicy pepper Spider-Man eating a bunch of spicy peppers, kicking a child. Spider-Man with a job. This is a generic garbage garbled nonsense. Now, you might look at this and say, like, okay, well, you know, in this one, it's Spider-Man fighting a sumo wrestler. What's bad with that? It is babies watching these videos.

It is likely babies and children. And the reason why they have so many views, what we saw with Elsagate, this is exactly the same thing. They use keywords like Joker, Spider-Man. They've got Supergirl, apparently. Haircut and styling. It is literally just Iron Man. They are targeting keywords that get a lot of traffic on YouTube so that the video will autoplay for your baby.

When you put your tablet in front of the baby and press play and walk away, this is what your baby starts seeing. These deranged and unhinged videos, it is going to fry their brains and socially stunt them and make them mentally unwell in the future. It is incoherent nonsense videos. And they're getting hundreds of millions of views. That video with the pug, that is a nightmare video.

To be fair, a pug wrestling a baby isn't nearly as bad as the Joker forcing a hot dog in Spider-Man's mouth. But they're still strange, incoherent, asocial videos that are going to fry children's brains. And it's back, baby. There was a channel. Let me see if I can find this story. This is nuts. AI Trump YouTube channel that got some coverage. there was a channel let me see if i can find this story this is nuts ai trump uh youtube channel that uh was getting that got some coverage yeah here we go we'll pull this one up it's not just

the garbled nonsense it's this look at this ai slop farms are turning out fake heartwarming videos about trump figures and look at this it's carolyn levitt and she's on a plane like what is this they apparently deleted uh the channel but there were videos. One was described as it was it's they use that AI voice. That sounds like this, if you've ever heard it. And a little girl, it's like a little girl approached Donald Trump and asked him, Mr. President, will you save the starving people? And the president said, and then it shows like trump and he's looking at the child super creepy ai nightmare scenario welcome to hell is this final galaxy tv because it says this channel is not made for kids i'm trying to look it up final galaxy yeah dash tv and it's more it's not made for children so i don't know if it's marked off yeah and i'm pretty sure they

do that just to lie to us or just so they could, because they do that because they know they'll get banned for this. Okay. And I mean, look at the description. All videos are made by created by Final Galaxy. All videos contain materials

protected by fair use guidelines. Yeah, they're going to... Age is 13 and up. Indeed. So a 13-year-old can see that. I've got a 12-year-old girl and she will look at this stuff and ask me if it's real.

A 7-year-old still gets this. Yeah. They're putting 13 and up only because they know it's real. A seven-year-old still gets this. Yeah. They're putting 13 up only because they know it's bannable because YouTube already nuked all this stuff during the first Elsa gate. Gotcha. Disney's pretty infamous for having pretty litigious attorneys. Yep. Where's the DCMA attorney?

I don't see how this is fair use. I mean, there's a certain degree where you can argue transformative or um satirical or something or commentary maybe one or two of these might fall into the realm of like we're satirizing it but they're literally just using the ip to generate hundreds of millions of views it is and this is just one channel i think there's a I think I've actually got this. Here, take a look at this. This is viewstats.com. And GTA 5, where is my green bed? In 21 hours, it has 19,614,546 views. Enjoy the video.

That's it. And this channel's got 3.2 million subscribers. What is this channel? Look at these shorts. Look at this. The latest one is 19 has 19 oh that's 19 million views from yesterday where is my shower towel squid game 53 million views gross hey oh thank you that's all and it gets 53 million look at look at the title of the video gta5 where is my pillow squid game girl doll part the goal is just to exploit the algorithm to get views and it's working look at this

where is my shower towel squid game this one is GTA where is my pillow squid game next to it GTA 5 who owns this bed squid game this is really interesting. And then YouTube cuts checks to these things because they get the views, right?

Hundreds of millions like that. Well, I'll do some quick math. For 53 million views on a short, it's probably going to be $500, $600. For that one single? For that one single. Yeah, and you'd think they'd get way more with 53 million

that's actually it's it's shorts they run one one commercial okay uh what's his most popular see how he opens every video with gta5 that's manipulating the algorithm that's a bannable offense and so what he's doing is every video is titled g 5 title followed by Squid Game. Squid Game girl doll part. That's the algorithmic manipulation. Isn't that crazy? I mean, bravo to them for figuring out how to manipulate the algorithm like that. But it's messed up because this is going to fry the kids' brains. But the return on investment, if you think about it, is creating that one five-second

clip. I don't know, $10 of your time to put that together because it's the marginal cost not even that not even yeah he's probably got a program that he just types in ai yeah he just opens up an ai video generator and says make this video enter one dollar upload 50 cents yep and then you get 500 in return there's uh this the top video might might be they're all shorts by the way uh here's the top video for the past day oh geez it's just yeah yep brain rot and youtube is intentionally look at this all the top youtube videos are shorts they're all except for this one raid 2 money 9 million and 12 hours from t-series but t-series is massive they're like indian i

think right yeah youtube is just you know i'll be honest i'll tell you what i think i think that the push towards tiktok style shorts on all these platforms is intending to end shows like this you can't have a Donald Trump presidency if you eliminate the ability for the people to speak. And so they are stripping, they are siphoning revenue away from platforms like this and then moving everything over to dead formats like shorts. It's a rebellion.

I mean, this is... So instead of listening to this show, people are just doom scrolling through. And they're watching that. Just weird giggle noises. The worst thing is it's children that are doing it. I And they're watching that. Just weird giggle noises. The worst thing is it's children that are doing it. I can attest to that. I taught high school for three years and I would catch students

watching this kind of stuff and I just could not comprehend the interest. Like, why? They had no idea. It's just... It's that dopamine squirt that just... Oh, that's interesting. I want to see another one. Oh, dopamine squirt. It's interesting, that's interesting. I want to see another one. Oh, dopamine squirt. It's interesting how we, kids used to do drugs and smoke.

Yeah. They used to drink and it was like, whatever. Children had cigarettes way a long time ago. And then at some point we were like, you know, this is actually melting their brains and destroying their bodies. Let's stop this. We haven't yet figured out we need those restrictions. I think YouTube should be be I think it's never going to happen, to be honest. Our Congress is too dysfunctional. So perhaps the fall of Rome

occurs when your lawmakers can't defend themselves from whatever this is. Reasonably, I think Congress would say to YouTube banned AI slop and slop content in general are banned, even if it's human-made. A four-second video of people giggling and eating carrots is like, nope, can't do it. So we need a whole new division, whole new department, or a transfer department? I know I'm not trying to expand, Phil. I'm just throwing this out there.

I guess you can't because it's a 1A violation. Yeah, that's certainly unconstitutional, but I don't think that's something government can handle. That's a societal problem. Well, the government handled drugs. Have they?

Yeah, they have. We used to put cocaine in our Coca-Cola. Now cocaine use – I mean, so this is a really good argument that Seamus Coughlin brings up when it comes to abortion. The liberals always say that if you ban abortion, then it's a coat hanger in the alley. And Seamus responded with, OK, so you're saying 99 percent of abortions will be gone. Deal. Yeah. Like your argument is overwhelmingly abortions are stopped. So certainly there's problems with the war on drugs and how they've handled it in the past 20 years. But societally, through laws, regulation, we got rid of cocaine and coca-cola and that was

mostly on the state level rather than the federal indeed indeed where it started but i do believe you're largely correct that societal problem and uh i don't know how you solve for that because look man how many parents are aware that this is happening to their children and are going to be able to adapt quickly enough to stop it from frying their kids brains have you not to digress but have you guys discussed the fourth turning on this before ad nauseum yeah yeah like we're there and and the fourth turning is all sorts of things right political instability debasement of currency um civil unrest uh and the breakdown of the family and indeed and the only way to get through it is to go through the crisis. And then when we come out of it, we're going to be a lot better.

And I don't know that I truly believe the fourth turning, but it seems like we're heading there. I don't see why this would be the one time it breaks. Right. I mean, so they say, for those that are not familiar, Strauss-Howe generational theory, they call it four seasons, and the easiest way to explain it is, what happened 80 years ago? World War II. 80 years before that.

Civil War. 80 years before that. Revolution. Exactly. And they say that actually there's more. We tend to just not talk about what happened 80 years before that. War of the Roses. Right. And they explain it's basically that a generation goes through war and crisis.

They're hardened. They struggle. They survive. They have healthy children. Those children understand the lessons from their grandparents. They have kids. The grandkids grow up in a flourishing society from the hard work of their grandparents, but their parents largely don't understand.

And then the next generation is totally detached, angry, dejected, has no idea what's going on and chaotic. And then it breaks again. And that's where we are. And I think I think it's true. I do, too. Yeah, that's where the black pill comes from. It is. I take a black pill every day. But, you know, this is what I don't like about the black pill. Just because we can predict that a storm is going to happen doesn't mean it's like, I guess it's done and we lay down. Imagine if you're outside and they're like, oh, a tornado's coming. It's like, well, I guess I die.

It's like, what are you talking about? Get in the cellar. Do something to prepare for this. And then when the storm passes, you get to work. What I genuinely don't understand about the mentality of so many millennials, and it's a sliding scale. Millennials have it bad. They don't. The work makes them feel pain. They hate work that I cannot understand. And I feel like you'll see this tendency between liberals and conservatives, where conservatives, I believe, more likely enjoy work and liberals more likely hate work.

And that's why you get communists. They don't want to do anything. Conservatives, maybe it's because of maybe there's a correlation between living in urban and rural environments and why conservatives tend to be in more rural areas. Maybe you had to chop your own wood and tend to your own animals. Be responsible for yourself. You lived in a city and you had delivery service do it for you or you had welfare checks or something i don't know i mean look it's it's not a good situation we were just talking about the interest rate and the bind that the the essentially the federal reserve and the government are in trying to fix the problem but we've allowed it to get

so out of control that i'm not sure that there is a way out that isn't defaulting on the on the debt or something that destroys the dollar high trying to hyperinflate the dollar or something okay let's let's let's entertain defaulting on the dollar because i don't think people realize how apocalyptic that means it means the global financial system crashes worse than we've ever seen the first question i have uh for you guys is if that does happen, your access to what is largely viewed as routine consumer goods is gone.

What is, and I love this question, the hardest to source, cheap, and most important consumer item you would want to have if the global economic chain collapsed. I mean, look, it's going to be things like water or...

Disagree. What do you think? Well, I got a well. I can pump water. Okay, so, well, I have a well. I have a well as well. Indeed. So that's not hard to source. It's actually quite easy. Depends on... Okay, so not for... If you're in a city...

Yes. But so... What I mean is mean who are you talking about then i mean us like okay literally these gentlemen in front of me it's i i have my answer and i think a lot of people have seen the show know what the answer that i think is but something that you can go to the store right now and buy without a thought that once the economic chain collapses you you ain't getting. And it's extremely useful. Yeah. Never mind. I don't know.

I mean, I'm thinking of your question differently, which is if. What do you want to buy five boxes of right now? If you knew. Protein. That is a good one. I don't think it's. Protein and water i so emergency food is a very very good idea if you thought the collapse is coming but right uh but

i don't but food's not i would say for you guys particularly hard to source uh i think on average conservatives skew towards understanding how to grow their own food i'm not saying they're all farmers and they're all going to master it much more likely where they live because they tend to be in rural areas and so they're going to have uh more sparsely populated i i don't believe food is the hardest thing to source ammo ammo is probably one of the best answers yeah and and that that's that's probably up there at number one. My second choice or rivaling first is antiseptics. Yeah.

Stub your toe on a rock, get sepsis and die. Or splash a little alcohol. And it maybe is not mouthwash. It might just be whiskey. My cousins are pretty good at banking that. I'm from South Carolina. Themselves. Grow potatoes.

Yeah, potatoes, corn. I'm not sure if Neosp I'm not. Grow potatoes. Yeah, potatoes, corn. I'm not sure if Neosporin has an expiration date. I mean, it's essentially some kind of antiseptic that's suspended in petroleum jelly. So that's a good way to take care of minor injuries, the kind of stuff that Tim's talking about. Ammo, obviously, is really good. you should, especially if you're a regular viewer of this show you should have firearms ammo, food access to water if not actually having water on hand

stuff to put water in that isn't plastic bottles etc. like that but I don't think they're going to default I think they're going to inflate their way out they're literally just going to start printing money and they're going to use that to buy bonds and put them in the Federal Reserve. Don't you see?

And interest rates are then... So then the value of all your money goes away. Yep, correct. But the stock market will rally. It's still going to be some kind of... It's still going to send massive repercussions throughout the whole global financial system, and that still likely will turn into some kind of conflict. The only thing that's saved us so far is the fact that

the rest of the world is worse. Correct. I mean, the fiat dollar is bad, but every other currency is worse. Indeed. But I want to white pill you guys. We got this story that I think it was actually Libby who pulled it up early in the morning. Catholic Herald says Catholics set to exceed Anglicans for first time since Reformation due to younger churchgoers. I got to be honest, I'm not super versed on this dispute or whatever from Catholics and Anglicans. But we do have another story, and it's from the Wall Street Journal. As Catholic church enters a new era, conservative U.S. members push it right. The conservative wing is reviving old practices and growing more assertive in the battle for the future of the church and the nation. These stories are part of a growing trend of younger people becoming Christian. And I think

we had another story here, which is in line with this. And it is new research, belief in Jesus rises fueled by younger adults. Something is happening. And we can see this. This graph is actually very interesting. Percent of U.S. adults who say, quote, I've made a personal commitment to follow Jesus that is still important in my life today. And in 2008, 77 percent said yes. And it has gone down quite a bit. However, since around the pandemic, it's gone from 54 to 66%. And I'm even seeing in my own personal life, friends of mine are,

people that I know, I should say, have converted. There's a prominent professional skateboarder who is largely viewed as kind of a degenerate, recently got baptized. I mean, these guys are viewed as straight, scummy, drunk, you know, guys. Russell Brand, viewed as kind of a degenerate guy for a long time, and he's turning his life around. I will stress with the context of this conversation that I'm calling this a white pill, despite the fact that I will fully admit I am not a Christian, but I think everyone can agree

when your choice is degenerate, urban know dopamine chaser and routine church go with a moral tradition there's one that's preferable 100 substantially more preferable clean functioning traditional people who are living in a in a healthy life versus people who are living as if they're going to die tomorrow and then just doing drugs and wasting away this is a huge white pill. This is not even, we're not even post-fourth turning. Fourth turning hasn't even happened and young people are starting to adhere to a moral tradition. Yeah, this is a pattern that's been going on just maybe not as dramatic,

but for years as people have kids. And I'd be curious to know if your acquaintances, if your friends, if they have young kids, if they've gotten to that point in their life where they, when they have children, they look back on their own past and think, man, I want some of the same stuff I had. Is that— Well, what I'll tell you is, in my life, the people that are having kids were already Christian, and the people who are not having kids have either abandoned it or not.

But what I will say is, my wife and I actually had this conversation. We're both lapsed Catholics. We are not in, like, I'm not going to lie to people and pretend to be a Christian because this is like, you know, some people probably would do it. However, we both agreed our daughter's life would be infinitely better if she grew up with a church, because we know that we did too, even though we left. And the concern we have now is it's kind of a challenge. I don't want to go to a church and pretend to have faith in something I don't. I kind of feel it's disrespectful, despite the fact that most Christians have said, no, no, no, come, come anyway. We want you there. But we also know that this upbringing helped me and my wife be good people. It helped us grow and learn good morals. If we don't give our daughter that, then she won't have what we had.

And so we want her to understand the things we understand and experience what we understand to a limited effect. And so that is the challenge, I suppose. So we have talked about how do we do that. And, of course, the response from 100 percent of Christians is, please come. And we were like, well, I don't know. I just don't feel we could do that. And, of course, the response from 100 percent of Christians is please come. Yeah. And we were like, well, I don't know. I just don't feel we could do that. Sarah and I have been to church four or five times in the past two or three months.

We've gone to marry a couple of times. Sarah's got a friend that we've gone to church with them. Both of us are lapsed Catholics. Everybody's coming back. I mean, well, look, the fact of the matter is, like, it really is a preferable way to raise your family. I went the opposite way. I'm a converted Catholic. There you go.

I was Episcopalian until I married my wife. They went woke, though, didn't they? Oh, yeah. The Episcopalian, they've got a female pope. Oh, God. Heavens. Yeah. And the point of that is just to get people in.

They think that they need to be en vogue just to get people in the pews and really what they need to do is is actually be a holy church that and and allow if they believe allow god to work his magic you know well the the i've got two daughters nine and uh twelve and one of the single best decisions my wife and I made is sending our kids to a classical Christian school rather than the public schools. I mean, it's not just that they get a Christian education, but that they're not exposed to the toxic, woke public schools. Yeah. And with school choice expanding across the country, I think what you're white pilling today, it's only going to continue to go. I've told the story quite a bit, but I think y'all will like it. It's Seamus Coghlan of Freedom Tunes.

Shout out to Freedom Tunes. Amazing. You should subscribe on YouTube. Seamus said, hey, you know, meet up with me after we get out of we do a Latin mass. And I said, OK. And me and my brother showed up as he was getting out. here i see people wearing nice their sunday's best having conversations laughing the children were playing the children were also dressed in their sunday's best and i just thought to myself isn't this infinitely preferable to what we see in the cities with

kids doing drugs and running around and joining gangs and like i'll take some of that one of the one of the masses that i went through recently was a Latin mass, and I had never been to a Latin mass before. And I tell you what, like, whatever you think of a Catholic service, like, the Latin mass is like you get transported, like, 500 years into the past. It's like, or maybe 1,000 years ago. It's, like, totally medieval, and it's kind of like, wow, this is kind of metal. Sounds fun. It's kind of metal. You know?

It's all in Latin, too, right? Yeah, all in Latin, yeah. How do you know what they're saying? There's a, in the, I forget what it's called, the program. Okay, okay. It's actually translated. You have one page is Latin, one page is Latin. Do you sing?

Gotcha. No, I don't, because I don't know Latin. And I don't know the song. Do they sing? Oh, yeah, they do. They do, yes. Because I mean, like, ifil labonte was singing metal latin it's it's it's actually really cool it's a trip well the question is can you get the benefits

without the foundations so like if you not as individuals but like as a society if if if we recognize whether it's the old school catholic church or a Baptist church, I'm Reformed Baptist, not too dissimilar in morals though. Like, can you have one without the other? And I think that's, I don't know, 20, 30 years ago, that was kind of tried of, yeah, we're just going to kind of play along with the functions. And that's maybe how we wound up here. I don't think that you can,

I don't think that, especially in our society today, I don't think you can get to the road to Damascus experience unless you surround yourself with Christians, unless you go to church, unless you're walking that path. And then if it's going to happen, if God's going to move in your life, then he's going to do it then. That's what makes the most sense to me. I was watching Charlie Kirk on the Bill Maher Club Random

and Bill Maher made a comment about, he asked about he is risen, the phrase referring to Easter and Charlie Kirk says, well, it's undying, it's immortal,

it's all time, it's not a past thing, it's a current, it's always and it's for everybody if it was just he was risen, it's a thing that happened a long time ago.

Bill Maher laughs and says it's amazing, I'm paraphrasing, but something about how someone could be intellectual but believe something so stupid. And Charlie said, it's not stupid. And Bill, that's not what I mean. What I mean is how they can make themselves come to believe these things. And I thought to myself, while I don't identify as Christian, I do believe in God. And I was thinking, you know, I feel like a lot of Christians either don't understand or don't know how to, maybe I shouldn't speak for other people, but the way I would explain it to Bill Maher is in this moment, I said, Bill, I'm thinking to myself, I would ask him,

can you see the color yellow over there? And he'd look and he'd say, yes, I can see yellow. Prove to me it's yellow. He'll be like, what do you mean? Like, I can see it. It's there. I know it. I'm looking at it. I've, I am experiencing it. Okay. That's how I feel about God. I don't know why you don't, but for a lot of people, I think that's the way it is. You experience God similarly to how I can look and I can see, you know, the color blue on a wall and say, I'm seeing blue. And there's an old philosophical question of what if blue to you is red to somebody else? Like, well, I don't know, but I know that I am currently experiencing something and I don't know why you

can't. Bill then says, you're being stupid. You know, I don't think he was trying to be intentionally derogatory, but he says, how could you believe something so dumb? And I'm like, could it just be that there's a perception you don't think he was trying to be intentionally derogatory, but he says, how could you believe something so dumb? And I'm like, could it just be that there is a perception you don't have? It reminds me of the C.S. Lewis quote, prolific author, genius. But he said something along the lines of believing in God, Christianity is not looking at the sun. It's looking at everything because of the sun. Like he can see the world because the Son's there, but he's not staring at the Son. I wonder if, you know, if that's what it is, though. Is it that people who—

here's what I think. I think there's probably a lot of people who have faith in God and even faith particularly in Jesus and specific religion and denominations who don't actually feel it but have faith. They believe it. But I do believe there's probably a lot of people who literally experience this. I've met them. They've told me these stories. And so to them, it's like as plain as day as I see the sky, I feel the presence of God. And then I think that there are people like Bill Maher who lack the perception for something

like this and also don't believe it. So they say, you all must be crazy because however I see the world is the way you must see the world instead of realizing he just has a different perception from somebody else. There's a strong hint of arrogance and belittling in that comment, too. Like, yeah, you want to question somebody else's faith. Like, you better come with the receipts that you know the answer. Like I said earlier, I'm in a heavy metal band, and that's my gig outside of this. And I spent the past 25 years touring with all kinds of people, and a significant portion of them are atheists, committed atheists i don't believe and one of the things that they continually say is things like oh the spaghetti monster in the sky and and and they belittle it

and it's like i've always found that so arrogant and such a ridiculous take on religion because something that i've said that that's totally true but something I talk about a lot in every human society forever for all the times that there has been human and likely prehumans were likely the, you know, Neanderthal and other things that were before humans. They likely had religion in every society that humans have ever had, no matter how far they are separated in time or distance there was religion so to think oh in the past 15 seconds we figured out that we don't need that and now all of the things that that came with religion and and we they only focus on bad things like you know times that that there was excesses or times where you could cast religion as a negative all those things don't matter anymore because now i'm so enlightened and i don't need any of that stuff and it's just such a pompous and ridiculous thoughtless position to hold you know and and it drives me nuts hearing people say

things like oh the spaghetti monster in the sky it's the the spaghetti monster thing i find funny because it's like imagine you yelled that there is a giant grizzly bear behind you and they went what and you were like it is a gigantic beast it's covered in hair it's got big teeth and like oh you believe in the furry bear oh i don't believe you and you're like i am warning you but uh let's let's jump to this this was big news today i want to jump to the story we'll get this one in from the post-millennial rfk jr to eliminate artificial dyes in food and medicines by 2026. So this is funny because West Virginia tried pushing it to 2028. They passed a ban in the state saying by 2028, no more artificial dyes.

It's a three-year lead time. RFK just steps up and goes, no, actually, just one year. Get it done now, everyone. And I am 100 100 for it so uh rfk jr and fda commissioner marty mccary announced tuesday that petroleum-based synthetic dyes will be eliminated from medications and the nation's food supply by the end of 2026 about a year and a half this includes those finding candy soft drinks desserts breakfast cereals and jams the agency said it would set a standard and deadline for the industry to transition to natural alternatives and take action to remove remaining colors from the market.

The FDA intends to revoke authorization for dyes that are not in production within the coming weeks. Nice. Epic. Sorry, Michael Malice. You know, we were talking to Michael about it. He's like, why should they do this? I want my petroleum dyes. I'm like, well, our exertion of power has exceeded yours. So now we get to ban artificial petroleum dyes. I'm like, well, our exertion of power has exceeded yours. So now we get to ban artificial food dyes. I noticed on the list of dyes that they're banning is yellow dye number five, which if you're a diehard fan, you remember the cop said that was one of the ingredients in the Twinkies that he was eating. Great movie.

Absolutely great movie. But I'm totally on board with this. I've got a lot of libertarian tendencies, but this is one that's long overdue. We've got so much garbage in our food supply. And related, the federal government is in charge of the nutritional dietary guidelines, and those guidelines dictate what our kids eat in schools. And that is a political process. That is not a scientific process where they decide what's good or bad.

It's potatoes are okay because the Idaho Senator said they're okay. And, you know, and they go through all the lists. Like it's a corrupt process. And years and years and years and years of that corruption led to all this garbage in our food. Yep, that's the libertarian challenge is they say, people can buy what they want to buy. And I'm like, look, man, if a guy walks up to someone and says,

buy this smoothie, but it's turpentine and they die, what does our society do well libertarians would largely argue like well you killed him and it's like okay what if he puts only a little bit of turpentine in it now they're not gonna they're only gonna slowly die no no you're still okay where's the line right these petroleum-based chemicals are uh reportedly connected to a whole bunch of uh chronic. And that's causing us serious problems. In fact, RFK June said it's putting us in the poorhouse. It's costing us around $1.6 billion.

I think it's a billion per year or is it more? Yeah, something like that. In medical costs. Yeah, he says ADHD, obesity, diabetes, insulin resistance, cancer, genomic disruption, geez, cheese gi issues and allergic reactions petroleum-based dyes are used to color food medical products we know and uh i'm for it get them out get them out let's uh let's let's eat real food for once you know when we talked to rfk at the libertarian national convention the question that i had for him was about mandatory

spending and about the you know the unfunded liabilities. And his answer was, well, you know, we're going to fix the food. And at the time I was like, I don't know if that's going to fix the problem. There's a whole lot of stuff. But at the same time, there is value to the idea that if our major food producers are making things that actually make us sick and there's no question that there's a massive increase in you know uh early onset diabetes there's a massive increase in obesity now it's not just the food that we eat but because we have people have a much more sedentary lifestyle now but if there are things in the food that we eat that are making us sick i think that it's okay if the government says, hey, get those things out. And if it helps lower the cost of health care for people when they become older, then hey,

you know, that's a good thing. And this is my conspiracy theorist hat on, but I also think it's realist, is that think of the turtles all the way down here, which is the FDA is contemplating whether, and I'm talking years ago, is contemplating whether yellow dye number five makes sense. Well, we cannot approve yellow dye number five without scientific evidence. The food industry gets a bunch of scientists together,

writes a paper, says yellow dye number five is just fine, and then it gets approved. And then do they get legal immunity protection because the FDA? So then they're not even legally liable for it if you get sick. There's no funding for scientific studies to question whether it's bad. So the libertarian argument is almost on our side here, which is that the government's tentacles are so deep into this that getting them out of it is the correct move here. You know, you know, I realized something because I was scrolling through Instagram, as I often do, and there was a clip from the founder. And it was where Michael Keaton playing Ray Kroc, he orders food at the drive-thru, and then they bring it to him, and

he's like, I ordered barbecue beef. Then it shows him walking up to the very first McDonald's, and he says, I'll take a hamburger. And they hand it to him, and he goes, what's this? And they're like, your food. And he's like, no, no, I just ordered. And they're like, and it's here. And he was shocked. What I realized is fast food doesn't exist anymore. What we have now are chemically processed garbage factories. The first McDonald's, they were grilling real burgers. And when you walked up, it was actually a real restaurant quality burger, but they just made it very quickly because they were doing an assembly line. Now McDonald's has turned into processed sludge that doesn't decay. All of them are. I don't even know what Taco Bell is. It's delicious, by the way.

It is. And so the idea that there are diners and there's fast food. When you are watching that movie. There were diners, he would like a drive in or a diner, and it took 20 minutes. And then there was the fast food revolution, which he discovers at McDonald's, where he was like, this is the best burger I've ever had. I got to tell you, McDonald's burgers and fries are disgusting. And, you know, I know a lot of people might be like, I like them. Yeah, but you'd know you'd like a smash burger from, like if you go to a higher end casual dining place where they got where they got a fifteen dollar smash burger with real ingredients. I know you like that more. That's that's how it kind of used to be.

So we just don't have fast food anymore. I guess Chipotle maybe. We're talking about this on the way. Well, just just think about McDonald's is they used to fry their French fries in tallow um but then the federal government comes in with um title um title one uh subsidies for corn so which makes the seed oils and um makes it ridiculously cheap so if you're mcdonald's why would you not swap out tallow for vegetable oil and save money on the bottom line so it's just the government inserting their tentacles again to make us sick. With our own money. With our own money. But we were talking about it on the way here. You asked me what's the best barbecue restaurant in Charleston. Charleston, South Carolina is where I'm at and famous for good food.

And I mentioned Lewis Barbecue, and it's so good that they fry their French fries in the drippings of the brisket. Nice. And they collect that. That's real food. That's real brisket. Nice. And they collect that. That's real food. That's real food. Exactly. Yeah. That's extremely good.

Look, I mean, I personally am still a fan of McDonald's fries. I think that's the only thing. Like on their, after the breakfast, they stop serving breakfast, I think the only thing worth going to McDonald's for anymore is the fries. And I won't go make a special trip to McDonald's for the fries um and i won't go make a special trip to mcdonald's for the fries um but yeah the the idea that that they should have the government tell them what they must what what actual food products they must use uh i'm not so sure that that's actually the uh the proper course of action we need we need to figure out a way to have a counter that tells you how long you're going to live. And when you go run a mile, it doesn't drop down.

And when you eat a french fry from McDonald's, does it drop a day? Wait, wait, wait. Does it drop by the gym? What does that have to do? I got to tell you. I bought this watch. I bought this watch. And when I go to sleep, it tracks my health metrics.

And I also have this bed, the Sleep 8 bed. It's amazing, by the way. They didn't sponsor us, but I would love it if they did. It's a bed where you put like water in this thing and it can cool and heat your bed. But it also tracks your sleep. Have a single beer. One. Go to sleep.

Wake up in the morning and check your health stats. And it says you're dying. And it's crazy. No joke. I go out to eat with my wife and I'm like, I'll get a single glass of red wine because I say red wine's not bad. I go to bed. I wake up and it's like recovery is 20%.

Sleep score is 37. Your breath rate was bad. And it says you may be getting sick. Something is wrong or you're drinking alcohol. And I'm like, wow, I've got I was like, none. I've got the aura ring. And the very first app I open up in the morning is to check my sleep score. And the one thing that I care about most is how much time I spend in deep sleep, because

when you're in deep sleep, that's when your body scrapes all the plaque in your brain and gets rid of it so you don't get Alzheimer's and dementia and diabetes and stuff like that. And you're exactly right. You have one drink and your deep sleep just crashes. Just recovery and everything is just gone. Yeah. It's like you're very sick. And you are. You drink poison.

So since then, I've been like, I ain't touching any of that stuff. The best sleep I ever had was last summer, and I remember it clearly. I didn't spend any time on my phone. At night, I ate a normal meal. I didn't stay inside. I went outside by a fire pit, looked at the fire, talked with friends, went to bed. I was dead for 10 hours. It was the best sleep i ever had and it was all just normal human things that we did 10 000 years ago man i'd be curious though to see what those

like the stats are between europe like you know italy where they drink wine with every meal versus here like they're out there uh alzheimer rates and dementia rates if it's the alcohol or if it's all the other Well they don't have the crap in their food Maybe it's the garbage But they don't have the crap in the food like we do We have about 10,000 chemicals chemical additives and they only buy about 400 to 410 over in the EU

so a lot more than them a lot more slop in our stuff Alright my friends we're going to go to your chats so get your chats in now, smash the like button, share the show with everyone you know. We're going to have that uncensored show coming up at 10 p.m. You don't want to miss it. But before we do get a great sponsor, we got American Financing. Shout out. Go to AmericanFinancing.net slash Tim today. With everything that's happening in the economy, especially the stuff we were talking about earlier, it feels like we're walking on shaky ground. Prices are stuck at a really high level,

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Well, I think there's always more to it. I think the issue is largely that they're incorrect about wrong. Just probably blanket cutting all these research grants, regardless of where they're going to. Everybody's going to want their project to get funded. But I got to tell you, as most of you probably know, when you're cutting budgets, you keep going over it. You're like, I can't cut that. I can't cut that. And then you're like, got to cut something

because of maybe a little bit from everything. Or else what do you do? It's like hoarding or not hoarding. Like if you buy a book, like I've moved recently. Do I want to throw this out? Do I want to throw that out? You like got to throw everything out. Well, and I don't think that the process of funding research like that is as pristine as people think. It's more complicated than that.

You've got Anthony Fauci-type folks who are in charge of that funding, and that funding goes to woke universities like Harvard who spend 30% of that on actual research and the rest on administrative expenses. And so it's not only wasteful, but it's also political on what gets funded and what doesn't. I mean, it's pure Soviet Politburo top-down central planning. Like the most worthy research doesn't necessarily get funded. Like the most worthy research doesn't necessarily get funded. So the whole thing's corrupt. I get rid of it tomorrow.

Indeed. Twas Everthus says, I was so proud of you today, Tim. You and Elad, Timcast ruled the day. I really do appreciate it. Elad got some pretty good questions in. He went for the normal questions, just straightforward.

I think he got two for Carolyn Leavitt and he got one for Trump. Yeah, he asked Trump if and this is interesting because Trump's got to be careful with his words. A lot asked him if the Trump administration would allow Hamas to control the Gaza Strip post-war or or he's essentially said., will Hamas need to be removed for a ceasefire to actually happen? And Trump said something to, I think he said, we're not going to let Hamas do that.

And we're looking in to see how it goes, which sort of insinuated, he was saying Hamas will be removed from Gaza. So it was an interesting, so I think Allah did a good job. Whether you're for or against it, you know, the fact of the matter is Trump made that statement. But I'm sure they'll say, no, no, no, he was saying we're going to wait and see. So he didn't give a definitive job. Whether you're for or against it, you know, the fact of the matter is Trump made that

statement. But I'm sure they'll say, no, no, no, he was saying we're going to wait and see. So he didn't give a definitive answer. Still, it's rad that we've got Elad in the White House, in the press pool asking questions. Boy, was the media really salty about that. Numerous times now, they keep complaining. You know what I said to these people? Elad has been nothing but professional. He's not gone in there and insulted and disparaged people. He's just asked questions, and they keep deriding him. I'm like, this guy didn't do anything. He's just asking questions.

These people are threatened by their cabal being stripped from their authority. Yeah. I mean, look, like what's-her-name-last-night-Terra was saying, by their cabal being stripped from their their their authority yeah i mean look like the uh like what's her name last night tara was saying it is true that the this a significant portion of the you know legacy media are actually there for access they're there because they want to be around the people that make the calls that make policy because it's it's better than money because if you can have if you have the chief of staff's number and you can call the chief of staff and say hey can you help me get

this guy on the phone or hey can you help get this blah blah it's better than money the point of money is is to be able to affect reality right affect the world around you otherwise the money has no value if you're not using it to do things it it's just paper. So why have the money, which has you have to worry about taxes. You have to worry about, you know, questions of legality of illicit payments or whatever. Why not just have the guys have the chief of staff's phone number? You can call, say, hey, do you know anyone over at this location? Can you call them and get this done? If you can do that, it's better than money.

So indeed, Jacob Bali says jackson the court's president what is it do it restore constitutional power so they give branch and the people we need fdr style republicanism the gop must use state power while they have it full speed indeed pinochet says tim i can't read. But he basically said I was very disrespectful to the media. And we agree. Justifiably so. Yeah, he said something much worse. We'll read it in the uncensored portion of the show.

Three Star Perfect Deer says still waiting on the Epstein list. So I sat down with, as I mentioned earlier, Secretary of DHS Chrissy Noem, Sebastian Gorka, as well as Secretary Duffy. And we're probably going to roll out the interview with Chrissy Noem tomorrow during the Our Rumble live show. Gorka on Thursday and then with Secretary Duffy on Monday. They all have a, you know, with all due respect to the individuals we interviewed, the cabinet members, I don't want this to sound in any way disrespectful, but we sort of weighed them in terms of newsworthiness. So I'm not trying to be disrespectful in any way. I think the conversation with Sean Duffy was the most fun, but it's kind of evergreen. We discussed

planes, DEI, drones, UAPs and things like this. He did make some interesting statements, which I think may get clipped about seeing videos of UAPs going in and out of water and things like this, which I thought were fascinating. And but with Secretary Noem, we discussed the more pressing stuff that the border G uh, Gorka, however, we, it was, I mean, this guy knows how to talk. He's a radio guy. He's a podcaster himself. And so we had a much longer conversation in terms of the Epstein list, cash and Dan, and we'll, we will put this out. He basically said, give us time. It's like, it's been three months. We just got here. We've got to, there's so much paperwork. There's so much you got to do to get these things to happen. But, um, he very much said, rest assured we are doing what you, what

you're hoping we're going to do. And I told him, I'm not, I'm not going to be impatient. I have faith in cash and Dan. Um, I could not imagine a scenario where Dan Bongino walks away from the biggest live show in the country, tens of millions of dollars for a low six figure public service job. And then just doesn't get the job done that's not going to happen so i'm i'm i'm very optimistic i i can understand the frustrations as well though me i'm just cash dan and pam i give them all of my benefit of the doubt all of it we were kind of spoiled by the first um month or two of the presidency when all the Doge stuff was going on. Going so hard. But every day was just so awesome.

Yeah, it was. And rightfully so, maybe needed to scale back just the brazenness of it. But I hope they do just put the pedal to the metal and start doing that kind of stuff again. The Real Hydro says narcissistic personality disorder is a mental health condition characterized by a persistent pattern of grandiosity and a need for admiration i mean this explains the corporate press exactly all of those people sitting in that in that room many of them are there specifically for the purpose of getting their viral clip just to yell at the press secretary and then say see i yelled at the president

and in doing so they will lie and misinform the public is this why the press secretary and then say, see, I yelled at the president. And in doing so, they will lie and misinform the public. Is this why the press and establishment politicians get along so well? Because they have the same narcissistic... Yeah. There was that clip. I don't know if you guys saw it from Jordan Peterson on Rogan, where he said psychopaths are taking over the right. And it's like, yeah, I'm just going to say it.

We all know that Jordan Peterson disparaged Candace Owens. So it's kind of obvious he's referring to at least her but but i tweeted this who is he talking about because taking over the right if he's got beef with candace owens you should just probably say that you're beefing with one other personality for her views or whatever whatever your criticism is um but she's just one person she's got a big show she's one person like who who are these psychopaths on the right that are taking over? I'm genuinely curious. I wonder if he was also referring to Andrew Tate because of his daughter's association with him. So maybe.

But I don't view Tate as taking over the right. Tate occupies his own specific space. Maybe not. But like I said, I think that's probably who he was referring to i i gotta be honest um i think the effectiveness of what he was saying was was completely wiped away by him not giving specifics of behaviors and individuals i understand why he doesn't want to come on joe's show and specifically say you know candace owen is a pharisee and blah blah like he tweeted that but i kind of feel like if you're trying to say, look at a specific behavior I'm criticizing, when you don't name the person,

it just kind of sounds like you're subtweeting them. You know, you're just trying to insult them without actually saying their name. I don't understand what he's trying to say, to be honest. He mentioned James Lindsay and the woke right idea, which is completely nonsensical. So I don't know what he's talking about other than there are people on the right I personally don't like. And I'm like, okay, me too, I guess.

Say that. Right. So it seems like he's applying this to a grandiosity. Like, oh, it's because psychopaths are taking over because they exist. And I'm like, I mean, if your point is that psychopaths exist in all facets and the right has some too, I don't think anyone's disagreeing with that. But I don't know who or what behaviors you're talking about. I can't think of anyone that has blown up recently or gotten super big or in the last couple months that has taken over the right. That's not already been there.

Nobody. I mean, Candace isn't taking over the right. She's had a big show forever. She's doing very well. Right. Her, you know, she's been growing. But she's had sky big show forever she's doing very well right her you know she's she's been growing but she she's she's had skyrocketing growth forever i mean she sat down with celebrities and and she was interviewing yay back in the day before yay went on this arc

you know what i mean like i think she's been on a path of success for the past five years arc is an interesting way to describe it you know know what I think? I think – here's what I think happened with Ye. He was talking seriously about the 13th Amendment. And he said we've got to – I'm paraphrasing, but something like we've got to repeal the 13th Amendment. His point in the greater context was they never banned slavery. They codified it in the Constitution, which actually states in the 13th, it doesn't say slavery is banned. It says slavery is allowed

if you're convicted of a crime and any crime, meaning somebody who jaywalks can then be put forced into slavery. He was saying, we need to get rid of that. The media then lied and flipped the narrative and said he wanted slavery back. I think he saw that and he probably went, they're all liars.

And so when he dresses up in a black Klan outfit, the things he's done and things he said, I think he's trying to just basically say, you are all liars. No matter what I do,

you're going to make it up. So I'm going to put on a show and I'm going to mess with the system. I think that's largely what it is. I can understand why people are upset with him, though, for sure. He's definitely messing with the system. Indeed. What do we got here?

The dude of Biden says, be watchful of Illinois' governor. It's heavily speculated J.B. Pritzker is going to run for POTUS in 2028. He's got billions to spend on an election. He's got a scandal for exceeding the donation amount of two Illinois Supreme Court judges. Interesting. First of all, J.D. Pritzker's not running anywhere. Touché. We have an Illinois Freedom Caucus

that routinely spars with him, and what's interesting about him is that he is not trying to moderate to the center like Gavin Newsom is or josh shapiro or even westmore in maryland um so he may have a lot of money but like you said phil like they spent a lot of money the last election and it didn't do anything so and we'll see yeah i think it really depends on the on the economy. Yeah.

Grabber strategy says they're called slabs. Student loan asset backed securities. Yikes. Rough. D. Scott says, Tim, if or when you meet with President Trump again, throw everyone off and wear a toupee with a suit. Maybe. It actually would be hilarious. It is.

You pull off the beanie, full head of hair. Just long flowing locks. Yeah, it'd be great. It'd be great. Shane H. Wilder says, kids will eat it up, this AI slop,

because it's a cartoon all while destroying their brains. It's an easy way to make mind-numb automatons at wholesale prices. Creepy. I'm in Disguise says, you got to remember the people who are making these videos

are almost certainly from poor countries. 500 to 600 USD is probably how much they would make in a year with a regular job. Indeed. One of the videos we looked at that was not AI slop, it was regular slop, was an Indian family doing these four or five second slop videos. And it's, I'm so offended by this stuff because they're attacking Americans with this and they don't care because they make money.

And so it's a video. There was one video where like a guy takes candy from a little girl and then she gets up her chair and then he sits down and starts eating the candy. And then it's just stupid sound effects and it's over. And it's got, you know, I don't know about millions of views or whatever so for these people it's like i mean 500 bucks is the equivalent of probably 5 000 for you or or more and they're like i'm i'm i'm rich and all they have to do is trick american kids into melting their and frying their brains but i largely blame youtube youtube's too busy censoring channels like mine and and other uh personalities to deal with the actual manipulation from foreign governments and countries that are trying to fry the brains of our children. And unless there's some enforcement action against them, they don't care.

Elcigate went on for I think years. It got so bad that it turned into AI-generated videos. I shouldn't say AI, but it was old school of children eating feces out of toilets. You know, one of the things that people don't or people may not think about when it comes to, you know, getting the government to step in with something like YouTube or with Spotify specifically, that's the context that I was thinking of or I had thought of prior. You can't get these companies to comply with the federal government when they can say, well, then we just won't you know, we won't be available in your country

because there's only 330 million Americans. There's a billion Indians and there's a billion Chinese. So if we cater to India and China, we'll more than make up for anything that we can get from the United States. So we don't we don't need to comply with you with these rules that you make if they conflict with the rules that China wants us to have or that India wants us to have. The market share is or the market is just vastly bigger. And it's really tough to get any kind of government sanction to stick to countries or to companies when they can do that kind of stuff. KO777 says,

The millions of views on these insane videos just proves dead internet theory. That's why YouTube hates it. It proves their views are bots. I don't think they're bots. What we saw in Elsagate is parents would give a tablet to a baby and press play on a video and then leave. And it would start with a normal nursery rhyme video. Then it would start cycling through autoplay and eventually turn into psychotic deranged content of there were videos of children, like I mentioned, eating feces.

There was amputations. There were injections, just really horrifying, brutal stuff. And then because it started going viral, human beings in poorer countries started making videos of injecting children and stuff like this. Gross. There was one video with like 10 million views and it was a guy giving a saline injection to his like 10-year-old daughter while she screamed and cried.

It's insane. But they were promoting it and babies can't change the channel. All the comments were gibberish. So it was this weird conspiracy. People were trying to figure out why all these gibberish comments, because the babies were just smacking the screen. Random.

That's creepy, man, right? Yeah. All right, let's grab some more. All right. Andrew S.A. says, Phil, you effing nailed it nailed it brother i pray you all have your road to damascus moment truly christ is risen cheers man interesting well forced name just says nobody knows god exists people have faith face faith is the uh is the hope it is this way on purpose if god gave us proof we wouldn't need faith Bible said your faith will be tested, not your knowledge.

I understand what you're saying, but that's why I said I believe there are some people that don't have that perception. Someone chatted that I was arrogant for saying that. All I can say is that in my head, I have a perception much like I see things to be true that God is true. I don't know what other people have, and I'm not saying there's anything wrong with anybody. I'm saying, me, it's just kind of like, yes, there is a God. Try to explain to somebody, I guess. I don't know. Some people just don't have it. Yeah.

All right, Kate says, Tim, my student loans were transferred to another company. They were zeroed out, then reappeared on my credit. High probability Phil's comment is true that they repackaged these loans into securities. Interesting. Scary stuff, man. Scary stuff. Yeah. Who owns those loans is what I'm interested in. I mean, BlackRock.

Yeah. You know? BlackRock, whatever. I forget the end card yeah the truth a says california is trying to ban glocks with ab-1127 because of the illegal use of glock switches this is a direct violation of scotus ruling one of the feds going to finally arrest these scumbags never i mean you know there's only so many people in the DOJ. And there's only so many U-Hauls that are going to keep going out of California into the other states.

Yeah. Keep it going. Jimmy says, actually, they're talking about bringing back the gold standard. You peg the dollar to gold and then reset gold price to 100,000 per troy ounce. The U.S.'s 8,000 tons, do the math. Yeah, I brought that up to, well, it's actually, it passed the House and the Senate a few years

ago, 2012 in South Carolina, for gold and silver to be legal tender and take the taxes off. And I brought this up a couple of years, last year in the budget, and the response I got from House leadership was this guy goes, puts a tinfoil hat on his head and comes up to the well and just like mocks the whole idea that gold and silver, like this is on the floor of the House with a tinfoil hat on because now he's the chairman of the Rules Committee. The idea that gold could be money.

Like how crazy we are. He's a Republican, by the way. He's a Republican. Unreal. We're crazy nutcases that go goes 3400 an ounce things would hit yesterday yeah 35 yeah 3500 it it hit 35 and then it actually 3391 yeah jeez yesterday it hit 35 and then that was kind of the the ceiling and now it's 3380 back to your question what do you, antiseptics, the more comprehensive answer is buy hard assets.

Yeah. Buy gold, buy silver, buy Bitcoin, buy real estate, buy land. Not in a total collapse. In a depression and an economic crisis, you want gold, silver, Bitcoin, and copper even. In a total collapse, those things are just going to weigh you down. They won't do you anything. So, you know, land won't.

Gold and silver won't either. If we have total collapse, and I had a big old pile of beef, and you came to me and tried to give me gold for it, I'd look to Raymond. Raymond's got a bottle of water. I said, I'll take the water. Total collapse, that chart showing the increase of Christianity, that's where that kicks in.

Oh, yeah. Sincerely. I mean, we stop relying on government. We start relying on communities more. Yeah, you know, it'll be interesting. If there was a total collapse, the first thing people are going to do, they're going to secure a bat cave. So they can get their saltpeter. Or what is it?

Potassium nitrate or something? You want the bat crap so you can make gunpowder. So if you got the bat cave, then you need sulfur, I guess. Charcoal. I mean, bullets are cheap and easy now. I'm probably wrong on what's in it. I don't know. I don't think it's potassium nitrate. I'm probably wrong about that.

Whatever. I've only I've only seen the episode of Dr. Stone one time, so I forgot. All right. Pile of Kyle says Christianity, whether you agree or not, is a great moral structure and foundation, as are now non-existent youth programs, as are now non-existent youth programs like the Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts, 4-H, etc. I'm a proud Eagle Scout, but they lost their way. Yep. They sure did. Brian Rich asks me to describe the God that I believe in. I think that's particularly difficult to do in negative 30 seconds. So maybe we can talk a bit about it in the uncensored members only portion of the show.

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