Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #1002 CIVIL WAR Film Panned As ANTI TRUMP, Film Is Leftist Partisan w/Simona Mangiante

Episode Date: April 12, 2024

Tim, Ian, Chris, & Serge join Simona Mangiante to discuss the release of the new Civil War movie, Trump roasting NPR, a man being convicted of homicide after defending himself against teens, and the m...ainstream media lying about a shooting in Chicago. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Civil War movie has finally been released and we just got back from the movie theater. I don't know. We got back like an hour ago and we watched it and there are going to be spoilers in this show. I won't spoil anything outright, but let me just say, I guess this might be considered technically a spoiler. It's not a plot point, but the film is very obviously anti-Trump, leftist, liberal perspective. And it's unsurprising.
Starting point is 00:00:28 We'll go into greater detail with that. I actually enjoyed the film, but it's because I actually have done conflict reporting. And what I'm finding is while I enjoyed elements of the movie because it is a movie about conflict reporting, yeah, everybody else hated it. Rotten Tomatoes really liked it. And so when the corporate press is saying, you know what, this is a movie about conflict reporting. Yeah, everybody else hated it. Rotten Tomatoes really liked it. And so when the corporate press is saying, you know what, this is a great movie, you can probably guess what that means.
Starting point is 00:00:52 I think there was a desperate attempt to try and de-liberalize the film at the last minute. And we'll go over all of that. We'll start with light on the spoilers, only using public stuff, and then move into more spoilers. I know some people still want to see it, but there's a lot of people online saying that they're going to spoil everything instantly because it was so bad. No one should go see it. So we'll talk about the film and the stuff behind it. And then there's, there's a, I mean,
Starting point is 00:01:18 I gotta be honest, it's relatively slow news day, but there is some news. Donald Trump calls for defunding NPR over their wokeness. Elon Musk has received an inquiry from Congress over his refusal to ban politicians in Brazil. So things are getting crazy. And then, of course, we didn't get into this the other day, but I really want to, especially considering the Civil War film. Costco is selling $200 million worth of gold every month. Now, why are people buying gold? We'll talk about that. And before we do, my friends, head over to castbrew.com and buy
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Starting point is 00:03:14 talk about this and a whole lot more is Simona Mangiante. Hi, Tim. Thanks for inviting me and compliments for your accent. I mean, one of the few that really pronounce it the right way. All right. It probably wasn't perfect, but I'll tell you. Who are you? What do you do? Well, I'm Italian. I want to say that because the media portrayed me widely as a Russian spy. So I'm an Italian citizen.
Starting point is 00:03:35 I came to the United States six years ago. I married George Papadopoulos, who was involved with the Trump campaign. And that's why I moved to the United States. But before that, I was a legal advisor to the European Parliament and specialized in international law and child abduction. Then I always cultivated my passion for arts and this switch, swift to acting as well. And now I'm an investigative journalist in political documentaries. After experiencing on my own skin the fake news, right?
Starting point is 00:04:05 I became the fake news. So I said, let's merge these interests on a side from investigative journalism with cinema, and let's make it a product that is enjoyable from a cinematic point of view. All right, thanks for hanging out.
Starting point is 00:04:21 It should be fun. We got Chris Carr hanging out. Chris Carr, the executive editor at SCNR. That's scannernews.com. What's going on, Ian? Hey, man, good to see you, dude. Likewise right on. Thanks for hanging out. It should be fun. We got Chris Carr hanging out. Chris Carr, the executive editor at SCNR. That's scannernews.com. What's going on, Ian? Hey, man. Good to see you, dude. Likewise. Ian Crosland, a musician and an actor. Happy to be here. I saw the movie also today, so I'm looking forward to talking about it a little bit as well. We also have
Starting point is 00:04:35 Serge over here. Yes, it was an interesting movie. I mean, I gave it 6.79. You gave it 4 point something. 4. You gave it a 6.79? Yeah. It's like mid. I thought it was like okay four four four you give it a six point seven nine yeah it's like mid no that's like okay i i i i we'll get into also fallout uh the show just came out and i am so miserably disappointed talk about that too yeah oh man i'm just gonna say it real quick as a huge fan of the fallout ip in the series i knew it's been getting worse and worse the easiest way to explain my disdain for the show
Starting point is 00:05:05 is that I'm like, I turn on Amazon and there it's Fallout, boom, the new show just dropped. And I tell my girlfriend, like, let's watch it. This is gonna be awesome. And then I'm pausing every five seconds, but okay, I have to explain this because she was like, what's that? Why is this happening?
Starting point is 00:05:19 What does that mean? What is this? Why is that? And I'm like, wow, it's not a show. It's just them being like, remember Fallout? Remember the vaults? And my girlfriend's like, I have no idea what's happening in this show. Anyway,
Starting point is 00:05:31 we'll get into it, but let's jump into the big news. Civil War, the film is out. Yes, my friends, there's literally nothing else happening in the world except for potentially World War III as a threat of attack from Iran is imminent, says the White uh you know we're more interested in movies so we're going to talk about this instead here's a story from the new york times
Starting point is 00:05:53 civil war review we have met the enemy and it is us again rotten tomatoes gives the film 83 percent and uh you can only guess what that means basically everybody knows tomato meter is inverted if tomato meter is if the tomato meter is good it means the movie sucks and if the usually it's like the audience score will be high the tomato meter will be bad i have a feeling when the audience score drops for this film it will be bad but for those unfamiliar this movie is about a team of journalists that are traveling on a road trip to make it to DC during the second American civil war. And there's going to be spoilers in this segment, but we'll start a little bit light and show you, uh, before we get into it, but rest assured within like five
Starting point is 00:06:36 minutes, we're going full hardcore spoiler because of the political ramifications and the cultural significance of how a movie, and I'm going to outright say, an anti-Trump film, masquerading as not anti-Trump, how does a movie like this get made? What are the perspectives of people in industry? And why is this their worldview? I think that matters a whole lot. So we're going to spoil the film. And if you want to see it, you know, that you've been warned. You may remember this. This is a map that was published on X. I don't know if it's the official map, but I believe it is. And this this came out around December and we talked about it.
Starting point is 00:07:17 It's the A24 Civil War 2024 divided America map. You can see here the northwest and parts of the Midwest are called the Western Forces. You have this strip to the center of the country called the Loyalist States. You have the Deep South called the Florida Alliance. And then you have the Republic of California and the Second Republic of Texas. You can then see that Alaska and Hawaii are considered Loyalist. However, A24 released an updated version of the map where you can see the Western Forces became California and Texas. The New People's Army is the Pacific Northwest and parts of the Midwest. The Loyola states remain the same.
Starting point is 00:07:49 Florida Alliance remains the same. But then you can see Alaska is polar bear cold state. And that is only somewhat slightly relevant to the film, but they did seem to change it. So the first thing I want to say is, and I'm trying to go slow with the spoilers because I don't want to just outright spoil everything, but anti-Trump film. Trump is the bad guy. It's very obvious that Trump is the bad guy. The movie is not about Donald Trump or a civil war. It's about four journalists on a road trip. So understand that it's about four journalists on a road trip. And these two maps, the reason I showed that first is because it appears the film.
Starting point is 00:08:28 I think I think they were seeing all of the commentary online and they decided to change the film midway through in editing to change the story out of fears. What they were producing was overtly partisan because it's it's I would say it's it's it's partisan when you watch it. If you know anything about politics, have heavy political influences, very obvious political influences and certainly a political perspective there. They don't outright say it, but it is apparent. I think in the trailers you can hear them say the Western forces are approaching dc well back when this map came out that meant montana wyoming idaho utah right and uh the dakotas and then of course minnesota is a mixed bag in the pacific northwest it's still largely right-leaning now the film is the western forces are california and texas which makes very little sense so uh i'll pause there and let you
Starting point is 00:09:25 know ian and serge chime in on this one a little bit too but uh as a journalist watching a movie about journalists and conflict what i really appreciate is how they captured the malice and depravity of journalists it was it was absolutely and i'm not being i'm not being cute when the journalists are smiling and laughing at the bloodshed and the gunshots and the gore. And one of the main characters is like, I have such a heart on for this. I'm like, this is what they do. This is what I witness when I'm on the ground being like, this is horrifying. People are being shot at. I can't believe these things are happening.
Starting point is 00:09:57 Some people need to know about this. I'm watching these other journalists be like, what a great networking opportunity to meet other journalists. Man, were you there when this happened? Did this happen? And I'm like, these people are are sick so i actually really enjoyed it but i'm curious your guys's thoughts if you want to chime in before we go heavy on the spoilers you want to lay into it surge um i mean like what was something you liked about the film wasn't you i really like the settings the scenery so i when i look at a film i look at there's the theme of the film
Starting point is 00:10:23 there's the plot there's the there there's the plot, there's the setting, and then there's like spectacle. This thing was spectacular in the sense that the beautiful settings, beautiful sceneries, they're driving from New York to Washington, D.C., they go through America, you see all this beautiful, beautiful stuff. And that's about it. I really liked some of the acting. A couple
Starting point is 00:10:40 of the scenes I thought were really good, and there were a couple of really powerful, well, there was one, the action scenes were intense, but I found it to be very very thin on plot i didn't it was nothing yeah we talked about nothing to be happening in the movie i was just waiting for something to happen i think when does this movie start like 20 minutes in the the worst part is when uh a democrat governor uh is is is rappelling down from a building upside down and then kisses Kirsten Dunst. Yeah, that was beautiful. I'm kidding.
Starting point is 00:11:07 I just stole that super chat from Deseret Rebel said, does Kirsten Dunst get an upside down kiss from Newsom at some point? No, she doesn't. Yeah, so what we're hearing from a lot of people online is that it was slow and boring. And for me i it was actually it was cathartic because there's like the basic premise is this like grizzled 40 something
Starting point is 00:11:30 year old journalist who's like really jaded meets this uh young girl who like 23 year old who wants to be a journalist and then they end up tagging she ends up tagging along and she's like why is this woman coming with her they they come to, we're getting into spoiler territory, they come to a gas station where looters have been strung up but are still alive and the 23-year-old doesn't take any pictures or do anything and then in the car starts breaking down and crying and
Starting point is 00:11:56 Kirsten Dunst goes, oh god, she's crying and I was just like, yes! Ha! Oh, I know that feeling so much, oh my god. Like, do not, I have complained feeling so much. Oh, my God. Like, do not. I have complained about it so often when companies would send me out to to urban conflict and they send you with these people who have literally no idea what's going on. And then they're just fumbling, tripping, causing problems. When I was in Venezuela, gunshots ring out like people are running and screaming.
Starting point is 00:12:23 I run west from the crowd the as i yell run to my crew they don't follow me and then i take cover behind concrete and they they run over what what's happening and i was like what and they're like what are you what's going on i'm like did you see the national guard with rifles and the people running screaming um and i was like we're going back to the hotel we're done i'm not going out with you guys ever again. And they're like, what, why? And I'm like, I am not going to stand there as you guys stand in the line of fire and don't move.
Starting point is 00:12:52 And then I have a human responsibility to save your life. If you do not have the experience to be in conflict, I am not going to go out with you. I will not condone this. You go do whatever you want. I'll do my thing. But fortunately, they accused me of being a spy and I had to flee the country by seven in the morning i think that was a plot hole for me
Starting point is 00:13:09 like why would they take that girl in the car in the first place that's like a hard stuff they did it some random they did explain it they did explain it that he that he i'm about to spoil the entire movie just so you do let's let's let's start we'll start with the hard politics before we get into heavy plot points so but the reason they bring this young girl, they reveal halfway through the film that the Florida based like Latino guy was drunk and trying to have sex with her. Yeah, basically. Yeah. They made the guy the weak, the beta, and they made the girl the alpha.
Starting point is 00:13:38 And then. I disagree with that. The guy. Kirsten Dunst was like the alpha of the movie? No, no, no, no, no way. No. She breaks down and she's falling on the ground and he's trying to drag her and when there's in the distance i look i a lot of
Starting point is 00:13:51 people are saying the movie was slow and boring and not worth seeing i still think it's worth seeing because i think the movie's going to give some people perspectives on war and conflict that they wouldn't normally have thought about yeah but uh they're sitting like they're they're camping out of their van and you can see tracer rounds flying through the air and he's like let's go and she's like we're not going anywhere near that and and then he was like but come on you feel it right and she's like when the sun comes up and he's like i have such a hard on for these guns. So yeah, he was insane and depraved. Yeah, they made him kind of look like a brute barbarian, idiot, alcoholic. And then she was the one keeping it all together and the leader.
Starting point is 00:14:33 But then she breaks down partway through and then the young girl becomes the alpha. All right. All right. We've waited long enough. Boogaloo boys are directly in the film. Boogaloo boys actually are depicted relatively well in my opinion uh antifa is made reference to but we don't know whether or not antifa are mass murderers or were massacred we don't know for sure yes uh the president is donald trump and the heaviest
Starting point is 00:14:56 spoiler of them all i said i wasn't gonna do the heavy spoilers so i'll save the big heavy spoilers we'll start the political stuff so i'll pause right there instead of doing instead of doing that. Were the Boogaloos really that well? They weren't named. They weren't named, but they also... Oh, those are the Boogaloos boys. Yeah, yeah. But what they did still, they weren't like the best light they could have been. No, I thought they did a good job.
Starting point is 00:15:17 What makes you think they depicted the Boogaloos boys poorly? Well, then if I say anything, then I spoil as well. Okay, well, they executed those soldiers after they had finished that battle. they didn't need to do that but i guess they just did it anyways uh fair point fair point it wasn't it wasn't cast them in an overly overtly good light they were still there they're still doing things they were making but but i don't think i i wouldn't look at them killing captives as like malicious evil yeah it's it's war and they're taking no prisoners still i agree i agree that was that was fairly bad they did they didn't include that you know what i mean but so one of the first scenes you encounter and this is funny because i'm reading all the reviews and
Starting point is 00:15:54 they're like it's an apolitical film and i was like really and then as soon as they come across so this is like they're like oh they're shooting let's go check it out they're journalists and the boogaloo they don't they never say boogaloo boy uh there are guys in hawaiian shirts with armor and gear yeah shooting at soldiers military you can tell who they are yeah and i'm i was just like no way i'm like this is overtly political they they they're in uh pennsylvania when they come to a location where military it appears to be military have pinned down boogaloo boys the boogaloo boys i thought would be well in that uh it i think it represents like their combat their people who train with guns yeah totally and they allow journalists to film yep they're they're they're moderately like anarcho-libertarian types.
Starting point is 00:16:45 And then the scene is after the firefight, the Boogaloo Boys infiltrate the building with the press behind them. And then enter the room and they hear a guy moaning and screaming as he's bleeding out. And then they capture and execute the remaining soldiers. No! Yeah. So the one thing I will say uh this movie was made by liberals who think they're neutral there's not a single instance where they encounter any leftists they encounter rednecks they encounter racists the president is donald trump the the elite
Starting point is 00:17:19 tactical force that that moves in to to take dc is it's very diverse yeah it's very diverse and i don't want to be like a dick but it's just like look man you're there's a lady navy seal being deployed by a a powerful military faction to take to the most like i don't believe currently in in the world there is a high likelihood chance that they will have women deployed as special forces on the most high priority missions. And I'm not trying to be a dick, but you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:17:54 She was small and thin. She was a little thin girl. She wasn't a big, strong, bulking woman. And she executes a negotiator. So I was kind of like, yeah, like biggest for me, I think, the cheapest part of the movie after all was said and done is that the president is in the white house in the middle of a civil war
Starting point is 00:18:11 he's just sitting at his desk like he's not in a bunker the administration's all just chilling at the white house it's the dumbest writing i've seen in a long time who wrote that yeah because uh bethesda and and and um mount washington what is it mount no no mount weather is it right yeah yeah it's like come on like even the publicly known emergency bases are still under loyalist control according to this map that was ridiculous all right but now i'll give the big spoiler now that i've given you fair warning uh the movie starts with the donald trump character and it's so obviously donald trump for a variety of reasons nick offerman is in the film for 15 seconds no joke he's got probably 20
Starting point is 00:18:50 seconds of total face time and an additional like five seconds of voice voiceover time wild how literally is in the movie i mean maybe maybe it's an exaggeration i think the movie starts with maybe like 20 or 30 seconds of him talking and then he gets maybe like 15 seconds at the very end but it starts with him saying we're on the verge of a great military victory some say the greatest military victory in military history and i'm like we get it it's trump the journalists say things like you're going to dc are you crazy they treat us like the enemy there you'll be shot on sight now i'm like oh my good we get it and then you got these critics being like it's totally apolitical of course when trump becomes president he'll launch airstrikes against american citizens disband
Starting point is 00:19:35 the fbi and then kill journalists yeah they say dis he disbanded the fbi and had three terms there's no drones in the movie it's really really poorly written it like they it's like an idealistic movie from like because technically the movie's supposed to take place in like 20 years from now if the main character was at some sort of antifa that's what she made her fame massacre with an antifa massacre yeah they leave that in the u.s you know which so kirsten dunst's backstory is that when she was in college she got an a quote epic photo of the antifa massacre so they're not taking any video nobody in the in the movie. So they're not taking any video. Nobody in the movie takes video.
Starting point is 00:20:08 They all just snap still photographs. And no, there's no drone warfare at all. To be fair, they can't really film anything. Or they can't charge anything though, to be fair. But they don't have solar powered chargers. She still uses her phone in the movie. She's got her digital camera. And they say there's no service. There's no reference.
Starting point is 00:20:22 There's only one reference to currency. And it's only that US currency is worth little but still still worth something uh there's no like the one thing i can say of this movie is that this guy was like what if there's a civil war i should talk to some journalists who cover war and they went and found some like 60 year old guys who covered war 40 years ago and one of the things we talked about this yesterday i think they really missed the mark is they did not involve the international community with one iota. It was all insulated within this walled United States
Starting point is 00:20:51 as if there was no outside influence. Like, dude, China would be the Western forces. Those would have been Chinese forces. I somewhat disagree. You don't think so, man? China, they'd be all over the United States. So here's where it gets interesting, right? In the trailer, they say the Western forces
Starting point is 00:21:03 are just outside of DC.C. or whatever. And originally the Western forces was the Pacific Northwest. In the new map they released, that's called the New People's Army. In the film, they call those Portland Maoists. Yeah, they mentioned Maoism. They mentioned Maoists. So when they make reference to that faction, though, it appears that they're saying communists take over the Northwest of the United States. And they say Maoists, so it sounds like Chinese influence.
Starting point is 00:21:26 I don't think it completely excluded. I think in a more realistic scenario, you'd have Chinese jets and European tanks and things protecting the capital. Why not drones? You'd have drones, tons and tons of drones. At that point, 20 years in the future, going the way we are right now, it might be way bigger. Yeah, that's kind of a 20 years in the future thing kind of like a misstep on their part i think because like
Starting point is 00:21:47 it seems like it takes place right now it's it's definitely taking place in the present the movie but without the movie takes place in at least 2025 it's like when they make movies i mean 2045 sorry 2045 have you noticed when they when they developed cell phones 2006 they were making all these movies but none of the characters had cell phones because they didn't understand like how they didn't have the creativity to write that new tech. And they couldn't have the suspense of like, how do I get my message to my person? Because I got to get to a pay phone and like in the Matrix. And it took them like a decade to catch up to how to start writing cell phones.
Starting point is 00:22:15 And a lot of movies will be like, leave your cell phone before you enter, become a character in our movie. Like they have to put their cell phone away before they enter the venue where the action takes place or stuff like that. There was one early exception i think the departed was 2007 and they explicitly made cell phones act like weapons in that movie score says he said he wanted the because he recognized the technology and how dangerous it could be and every character in that movie is like they're battling with cell phones that was that's a very early example but for the most part yeah you're right i think they're doing that with drones here i'd like to see a movie that understands drone warfare a little bit better. The horror of an artificial intelligence taking over.
Starting point is 00:22:47 One of these factions could have been an artificial intelligence. That would have been cool. Yes, but if we're... So this guy in 2020 starts writing a film called Civil War. And the conversation around a potential civil war in this country started a long time ago. I mean, first of all, there was a civil war in this country. But it was like 2017 and 2018, people started talking about because of Donald Trump,
Starting point is 00:23:07 the potential for civil war. Yeah, and I believe that part of it was to not only predict something that is likely to happen, I think, much less than 30 years from now, but also in the same effort to delegitimize Donald Trump. I think it was like a sort of the immunity system in place. What if Donald Trump. I think it was like a sort of the immunity system in place. What if Donald Trump wins again, the election and it was written in before, right, 2020. So I think it's actual now as we're heading to 2024. But already at the time, the risk of Donald Trump being
Starting point is 00:23:39 confirmed as President of the United States was huge. So we have this highly politicized, overtly politicized movie, which is not like, of course they're making up that it's neutral. No, it's not. You just mentioned how they give the president as speaking exactly like Donald Trump, journalist ecstatic about giving the most sensational news with like, you know, like vultures basically on the set.
Starting point is 00:24:06 And this is a sad reality. And then all these minorities that are in the movie that just represent how they polarized America, playing this identity policy all over Biden presidency, like trying to put
Starting point is 00:24:20 one against the other, building up the idea of Trump supporters, like the white supremacists, the racists, the people leading America into this polarization that they created, by the way. There is nothing of that existing. I'm a minority myself. I'm an immigrant. I never felt emboldened by being put in a case.
Starting point is 00:24:38 Actually, there is no bigger recognition than being treated as an equal, like actually on the right side we do. But here we go, like this extremely polarized world heading to the demon they demonized donald trump i think already in 2016 since 2016 all over his first presidency and up to now so what more political than that i remember when trump got elected he said something like right after he got elected about i don't know if he said something racist or sexist and then other people,
Starting point is 00:25:07 it was like the floodgates were open and then all these people started saying racist and sexist stuff online and people were like, white supremacy, oh no. And I don't know what,
Starting point is 00:25:16 it was like he did give kind of a green light, like I'm going to speak derogatorily, that means you can too because before that, people just didn't talk like that, at least not on TV.
Starting point is 00:25:24 That's not true. Not in public. No. Not in public no not in public you would get or maybe not ostracized this is not a politics this is an internet thing has nothing to do with and but then i think the media a lot of people the media blew it out of proportion and said like oh my god he's going to cause a race war he's going to be a dictator and they lied yeah and they made it seem like he was going to cause some some sort conflict. And this is like, what? I think this is the thing about this film is that it's liberals going like, wow, what if Trump really does get reelected? He'll have a third term. He'll kill Americans.
Starting point is 00:25:53 He'll kill journalists. And the country will fall apart. And they call him a dictatorial president. It's very obviously Trump. And I guess the final spoiler is, and I think it's fairly obvious based on that. It's like if you watch the trailer, this is not a big spoiler, but they do kill him. Yeah, because he's sitting in the White House like an idiot.
Starting point is 00:26:10 He should have been in a bunker. Is that incitement? Is that incitement to kill the future president? If you're a far leftist, if you're Antifa and you watch that film, you're probably cheering the whole time. And if you love America, you are probably sitting there shocked and in disgust. I was nauseated. It's the first time I've ever seen a movie where the U.S. president was a bad guy and gets killed on camera.
Starting point is 00:26:30 I've never seen that. If you guys have seen a movie. To celebration and cheering of the main characters who are happy it's happening. It's like a predictive programming thing. Like, are you saying it's okay? Like, what are you insinuating here, guys, with this movie? Well, you know that all the Disney villains back in the day were British, right? Okay. I didn't know all of them. I didn't know all of them. Yeah, and so was the director of this movie, by, you know that all the Disney villains back in the day were British, right? Okay, I didn't know all of them.
Starting point is 00:26:47 Yeah, and so was the director of this movie, by the way. British? Yeah, of course he is. So what does he really know about American discourse and the political? Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:26:54 And well, it's funny because people have asked him about like, isn't it crazy that you have Texas and California like pairing up together? And his response is just like,
Starting point is 00:27:02 no, they're pairing up against a fascist president. I mean, couldn't two states put their differences aside to defeat fascism when you look at the original map it was obvious it was meant to be like conservatives from the from the from idaho utah and montana and wyoming and then they changed it with the new map to texas and and for some reason and the best we could have come up with this because they wanted to make it seem non-partisan that california and te and Texas could work together against the greater evil. But I don't know if that's someone came in from the outside.
Starting point is 00:27:28 Like, you guys, you can't don't make it the West versus the East. Just make it like the bad guy versus everybody else. I want to stress that, too. Like, you get that movie. What's it? White House down or whatever. And it's like all the movies that we have are the president is the good guy. The president is under attack. The secret service have to save him in this movie it's quite literally
Starting point is 00:27:48 an external faction attacking the president in the secret service and you are the characters you're supposed to be cheering for are happy it's happening so it's quite literally like the united states is the bad guy the president is the bad guy and the president must be killed and stopped and when they like in the end they like man i guess we spoiled enough of it already so i'll just tell you but right before they kill the president the main one of the main characters says no i need a quote and then nick offerman's like don't let them kill me and he goes that'll do and then they kill him and it's just like so that like i felt like the bad guys won watching that film yeah like it the movie to me felt like communists attacked the government and won the movie to me is most likely on a probability line
Starting point is 00:28:40 of the the liberal view is that trump gets elected uh there's resistance and and revolt and riot and stuff like that trump gets elected to a third term at some point to stop riots and rebellions or whatever uh orders uh airstrikes in the beginning of the movie a a person carrying the american flag suicide bombs a bunch of people trying to get water from an aid truck that's like it's very like it's it's it's very subtly like if trump wins this is what he will do he will kill journalists he will kill you his supporters will do this the journalists only ever encounter deranged quote-unquote right-winger types uh rednecks who are who are a-holes and and beating up looters and killing them or racists who are murdering minorities.
Starting point is 00:29:27 And then in the end, they're like, the orders are to kill the president on sight. That's in the movie. A few things that I think it did well is that they captured how some people are just still living their lives as if it's just not going on. They're just going about their business in some parts of the country. That was pretty cool. And it also captured the chaos of the actual conflict when you don't know who's who. You get shot at, you're just shooting back at whoever's shooting at you.
Starting point is 00:29:48 And I think it also, what were you saying, Serge? It really just, it highlighted the horror, the absolute devastating horror of a situation like that. But I don't even think it took it far enough because there was no foreign interference. Like we would just have the, the UN would take over the country if we tried to,
Starting point is 00:30:05 if we, the... If we... The only reason we haven't been invaded is because of our national unity. So if we lose that, it's all over. No, I disagree. It's because there's a gun behind every blade of grass.
Starting point is 00:30:13 That's a... I mean, it's a metaphor, but... Well, what actually happened is China would go to West Coast states and say, we'll provide any support you want. Have fun. Tanks and things like that.
Starting point is 00:30:22 And they would say, thank you, comrade. You're welcome. Right. Yeah, anything to survive. So inside they're saying Trump is the dictator and everyone who supports him is a terrorist, is a redneck, is everything bad
Starting point is 00:30:34 is happening in America right now. They're building it up. To me, Islam is sort of making people who hate Trump and Trump supporters entitled to react in the worst way. And this is scary because it's going on. It's like a marketing massive machine to convince people that Trump is the monster and whoever supports him is a racist, a bad person, the problem in America.
Starting point is 00:31:01 And it's quite disturbing. It's a kind of mix between ideocracy. It was a parody. You remember this ideocracy? They really believe people are so stupid to buy into all this fake propaganda every each time. And now civil war, that is like their immunity system for what happens if Trump wins again. We should rile up all the people we indoctrinated until now to cause some major issue. And the fault would be Trump again. In the movie, they make it clear the president ordered airstrikes on Americans. But I'm thinking about it now.
Starting point is 00:31:33 I'm like, I'm pretty sure if Biden did that, depending on who the Americans were, the left would still defend and cheer for it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I agree with you. Yeah. 100%. If Biden ordered a drone strike on the criminal aliens invading southern border they'd call for his impeachment and removal right away if joe biden ordered a drone strike on
Starting point is 00:31:51 like a proud boys rally or something and a riot broke out they'd be like yeah but they were violent insurrectionists i would have agreed with you a year ago but after this the way he's just malfunctioned the israeli conflict he has no support anywhere if he did that i think that the entire country even his own cabinet would take him out like like get rid of him like make him step down or like remove him from office if he was to do something like that maybe but let's jump to the real world so uh outside of films we have this from scnr trump calls for npr defunding after senior editor releases scathing op-ed. They are a liberal disinformation machine. And so we were just now talking about a Hollywood film about a civil war.
Starting point is 00:32:31 But this is another component of it's fairly insane to try and parse through the news when it is all a lie intended to manipulate you into falling in line behind authoritarians and so you had this uh let me just read this senior business editor editor yuri berliner wrote in his op-ed that an open-minded curious culture prevailed throughout the network early in his career though said npr's direction in recent years didn't accurately reflect on america berliner noted the network overwhelmingly employed registered democrats noting not a single registered republican was present at npr's washington headquarters the senior editor went on to claim npr's top network executives had pushed for the outlet to transition their messaging toward a consistently progressive liberal framing there's a story and we'll get into a second about a guy named dexter reed you guys see this one no
Starting point is 00:33:21 this is a guy who uh reportedly opened fire on police striking a police officer shooting 11 times and the police responded killing him i say reportedly because it's reported in the news there's video of the shots and the cops running and screaming and then you know them yelling shots fired and stuff like that and the way the media frames it is they do not report that the guy opened fire on the on the police until the bottom of the story wow so you google this and it's all these news outlets being like black man shot shot at 96 times and they show a picture of him wearing his graduation robes and i'm like why not just show a picture of him wearing a t-shirt like why this graduation photo it It's all framing. So their goal is to effectively create another George Floyd scenario.
Starting point is 00:34:07 The crazy thing is this guy who died, you know, I was watching the news the other day and there was like a shooting in Philadelphia happened. And I was like, and it's like, why is that news? Now they're like, police stopped a guy who opened fire on them and they shot him. And I'm like, how was that news? I was, I was night crawling in Chicago a few years ago and there was like seven murders in an hour. And cops were shooting at guys.
Starting point is 00:34:28 And I'm just like, how is this news? For some reason, these woke leftists in corporate press all got the memo. And maybe that's the case. So now you have this story with NPR where this guy's basically saying, yeah, Democrats took it over, turned it into a propaganda machine. Trump now says no more funding for NPR, a total scam. Here's what I love. Is NPR funded by the government? Well, they say, no, it's not. NPR doesn't get public funding. No, what happens is Congress authorizes funding for some secondary organization who then transfers funding to NPR, and that's how it operates. So in line with the movie Civil War where the president thinks journalists are the enemy, you get the left likely very much going to push a similar narrative now with this.
Starting point is 00:35:14 But this is just a bigger component of what we already knew. I mean this country is – I don't see how based on things like this, this country ever comes back from oblivion well based on what that the media is intentionally lying to everybody there's no fact that donald trump says make it stop has them depicting him as a fascist who murders people in a film i don't think there's any going back people that want to go back and that ain't the right way anyway. I just don't want to turn it into like, I don't want it to become like so passively fascist that people just don't exercise their free speech. That's what I'm concerned with. I want to maintain people's willingness to speak out against the powers that be because that's how innovation occurs.
Starting point is 00:35:59 And that's why the United States is so great in the first place and why people came here and wanted to take it over is because we said, no, you're allowed to say whatever you want. You can't come here and stop people from doing that. You know, at the same time, I agree with you, but we should be able also to call out lies from newspapers and journals that keep spreading a narrative that are totally baseless. And we have seen it with Donald Trump in many occasions, like just spreading blatant lies i
Starting point is 00:36:26 mean i feel of course involved into that because i've seen my character completely assassinated in the news just to get indirectly to donald trump right it was convenient to say at the time that one of these advisors married a russian spy that was completely so crazy that, you know, having the possibility to call out this outlet and even win a defamation lawsuit is now so remotely impossible just because attacking the fake news is like attacking the media. So, you know, it's another type of dictatorship on the other side. You know, we should respect, agree at certain extent that could lie, you know, people should be free to talk and even say lie. But let's keep our freedom to object this lie, prove them wrong and having, you know, them correct their lies, which we don't have right now.
Starting point is 00:37:16 Were you able to sue the, who was it that said you were a Russian spy? many outlets one was like medium with this crazy guy that actually caved in a label lawsuit recently with another person involved in the russia uh oaks uh and he won actually and he was banned by ever publishing anything ever again i'm not making his name not to make him famous here because it's actually really like a fringe wannabe journalist but uh, you know, many other outlets picked up from this, including, you know, the Observer and something, you know, just major outlets. And the point is not even like corroborating what they say is just like putting the headline in the front to build up a narrative. It was never about me. It was just about the Donald Trump campaign that was allegedly colluding with Russians. So understand the feeling of Donald Trump calling out those liars. Understand that
Starting point is 00:38:10 you, when you say we should limit our going after these people at a certain extent, because we should protect the freedom of speech, right? And I agree. But I think this is so normalized to lie against a political opponent or political target that we should definitely be able to correct it you know we should shift back to some sort of accountability when you lie recklessly and donald trump has been the target of all that and people like me decide you know just try to get to me to get to his advisor george my husband at the time and now look at the here we go again 2024 uh you know the same mantra russia russia russia white supremacist and a bunch of other things that are thrown there just to make up a narrative there's like this uh saying
Starting point is 00:38:57 look for forgiveness rather than for uh what is it permission permission yeah ask for forgiveness later rather than ask for permission first terrible news organizations have been functioning like that and that they'll just print something that's that's wrong and then when they do they'll be oh it was wrong sorry we'll take it down that's not it's uh news organizations will intentionally lie make millions of dollars off the lie then a wait a week issue a retraction and make a few thousand off the retraction when they when they run an article with ads on it, views are views. So they can run an article and just say a whole bunch of nonsense.
Starting point is 00:39:31 And then if it's sensational and they make money off the ads, good. And then when someone's like, you better retract it, they go, okay. And they put up another article retracting it and make money off that too. But I'm with you. I mean, slander, libel, those are legitimate things. This new media environment where a random nobody can slander you, and then a news organization can pick it up and be like, well, I mean, we saw it there, so it's not like we made it up.
Starting point is 00:39:53 And then who do you sue in that case? Exactly. Technically, the loudest mouth, I think, is usually the one that gets the lawsuit. But then what if they've pinned it on their sources and be like, well, we just got it from that small outlet. Do you know how that works? Well, that's how they do.
Starting point is 00:40:09 That's a vicious machine, you know? So I read it there. So I picked up this article. I don't have to justify why. Actually, they're proposing the same content. You should go to the source and then prove. And then when you are a public person in a certain way you have much less protection on your side so legislation should change a little bit but on the
Starting point is 00:40:30 micro picture macro picture i believe donald trump when i read these uh truths i thought i really too because think about this uh man it has a machine of the judicial machine from the side and then you have the media machine colluding to create the same narrative so he has thousand indictments think about jane carroll like based on you know baseless allegation again and media covering it in a certain way and here we go the narrative is built upon like everybody's trying one thing to avoid donald trump to win the election again and that's that's a fact or delegitimize him once he's in power. And everybody can see that, even liberals, you know. Have you ever seen so many forces against one man? And why?
Starting point is 00:41:11 Not in American politics. Not like this, no. Yeah. I mean, and you can even try to attack the corporate press. I mean, even if you're Trump, you know. I mean, he just sued George Stephanopoulos for lying about him on air. Who knows where that's going to go?
Starting point is 00:41:24 You know, I mean, it's anybody's guess. Once it gets into the topsy-turvy legal system, pretty much anything can happen, I think. Even if you're Donald Trump and can afford the best lawyers possible. I'm not too familiar with NPR. It's called National Public Radio, but it's privately funded. Yeah, well, part of what happened here, according to this guy's op-ed, is that things changed when a guy named John Lansing took over CEO in 2019. And then when the summer of George Floyd happened, the top down edict was we have
Starting point is 00:41:52 to get at this systemic racism problem. I mean, and then from there, from there, it was just framed that way moving forward, and then everybody else had to fall in line. And I imagine that's pretty much what happens in most of these corporate press newsrooms. It comes from some deranged CEO that takes over and has kind of goofy ideological views on things, and they just mandate it top down. Maybe it should, Trump's lawsuit should, he should just sue them and make them take national out of their title, because they're not-
Starting point is 00:42:22 That's a brand name. Yeah, like if I call my company the Federal Armory- Express. of their out of their title because they're not that's a brand name yeah like get calling if i call my company uh the federal armory yeah if i yeah federal trust they had to change to fedex because federal it wasn't federal and like if i call my thing like the this the if i call my company like the legitimate american government or like people well it's not you can't like call your private companies there's certain things like or if I'm like I want to call it yeah that's a good
Starting point is 00:42:47 point actually like the United States Congress like if I want to make a company and call it the United States Congress they'd say no you
Starting point is 00:42:53 can't name it so calling it the national it's not national it's a private I love to get their stock that's a very good point
Starting point is 00:42:59 who owns the company it's owned by National Public Radio Inc. and who owns that and where the stock all comes from because I read about it a couple years ago and I don't have the data here but I remember seeing that only Who owns the company? It's owned by National Public Radio, Inc. And who owns that? And where the stock all comes from? Because I read about it a couple years ago, and I don't have the data here, but I remember seeing that only a little bit of money comes from the government. And all the rest was coming from private organizations.
Starting point is 00:43:15 Where did you hear that they changed their name from Federal Express because they were forced to? Oh, I just remember them changing it to FedEx. Yeah, they weren't forced to do it. You're allowed to say federal. They just branded, they created a brand name. They called it the Federal Reserve and it wasn't even a federal organization. So it is pretty deceptive
Starting point is 00:43:34 to call your company federal if it's not federal and call it national public something if it's a private company. That's kind of crazy. I just got to get the stock. I didn't know we were going to go too deep into this just now uh let's see privately supported yeah national public radio is a privately supported not-for-profit organization that yeah privately supported by who
Starting point is 00:43:53 so 900 uh let's see i'm already including my 900 oh what were you saying yeah who gives him the money i'm going for it i'm looking, like, program, which then provides the funding to NPR. So it says NPR is funded through private donations, member station dues, and grants from organizations such as the Corporation for Public Broadcasting and the National Science Foundation. Another question is, how much of their money comes from the Corporation for Public Broadcasting? Yeah, that is a good one. And then, how much does Congress give to the Corporation for Public Broadcasting? Dude, conservatives, man, they just sit back and they let Democrats funnel tax dollars into things like universities and the press so that they could be infiltrated by communists. And now here we are.
Starting point is 00:44:37 My parents, I remember talking to them a couple of years ago and they're like, well, NPR is government wet news. I was like, no, it's not. That's what they want you to think, I believe. That's why they call it that. Well, no, it's not. That's what you're supposed to, that's what they want you to think, I believe. That's why they call it that. Well, we'll come back to whatever that is. Let's talk about this Nicolay Mew story. Did you guys hear this one?
Starting point is 00:44:53 This is the huge implications for self-defense. This guy, Nicolay Mew was, I watched the video. He's in a river. He's attacked by a bunch of teens. He defends himself and now he's found guilty of, they say, first degree homicide of boy 17 during a tubing trip after a gang of teens
Starting point is 00:45:14 accused him of being a pedophile. So there's a lot to this story, but the general the gist is, there's a video showing him walking around in about six inches to a foot of water while they're tubing, stumbles over, falls over, drops a snorkel. The kids all start surrounding him, screaming at him, teenagers yelling. One dude yells for the culture several times. Someone, some woman comes up and shoves him. He then grabs a folding knife that he was using for tubing. Someone then shoves him to
Starting point is 00:45:41 the, to the, to the ground. He hits the ground. Then someone smacks him in the face. Then as he's getting up, the boy who died jumps at him. And when he does, Mew pushes back with the knife and with his hand and the knife goes into his gut. And that was basically the killing blow. He then has continued to be attacked
Starting point is 00:46:00 and slashes a few others. They found him guilty of this. And a lot of people are saying it's a travesty of justice when you watch the video because this guy never said anything these kids his mouth is shut he's calm he's not threatening anybody they surround him screaming at him and then attack him several times and now he's been found guilty um so i think carter did carter banks was he talking about this he said that about the apple valley guy yeah or apple river sorry mentioned that he thought that the guy had been lying to the police is that true
Starting point is 00:46:28 yeah so one of the things is that people were saying that he folded the knife and threw it on the riverbed or something so okay right so which was like intent to withhold evidence or something but the thing is in it you can die in a foot of you can drown in a foot of water if he fell and hit his head he would have could have died i don't care if he was on grass or otherwise. You attack someone and smack him in the face and try to stop him from getting up, it's reasonable for someone to think, I'm surrounded by people, they're trying to kill me.
Starting point is 00:46:52 And if someone's got a knife on them, they might think, they're going to take my knife and kill me with it if I don't stop them. That's another huge component of self-defense. Yes, exactly. They always say the defense should be proportionate to the offense, but when you have a gang, a bunch of people coming at you uh where is the line between proportion you know like you have to use
Starting point is 00:47:10 what you have to just save yourself the entire point is save yourself your life that you use are you using a proportionate force to do that or means on everything else but here uh it's always the same point to me where is law enforcement right there are pending accusation toward these guys usually when you go through a legal proceeding to know if you're guilty or uh innocent you should have law enforcement in place to take care of this situation but when people come and get you because they heard this accusation of uh pedophilia uh then you know the the balance is like we are allowing people to get over.
Starting point is 00:47:48 But yeah, it appears they made that up. I mean, I don't see, what? The guy apparently was looking for a phone that he dropped in the river.
Starting point is 00:47:56 And so they end up starting a fight with him. They lost. And so then all of a sudden he's accused of being a pedo. So they just made it up too. That's crazy. It seemed like it was just a deranged insult that they hurled at him and i mean his attorney
Starting point is 00:48:07 said that they punched him they kicked him they did it repeatedly they pushed him it's on video yeah i mean like now he's facing 60 years for first degree reckless homicide and four other charges of um four counts of attempted intentional first degree homicide so that's because he swung the knife at four other people first degree intentional homicide intentional that that that's amazing yeah they're basically saying he walked over there intending to kill people did he lunge at the guy or the guy lunged at him the guy lunged at him not like you watch the video the dude jumps at him and then he has his hand with the knife and it's not like this and he and he pushes as the guy's jumping at him and that's how the guy got stabbed he didn't advance on the guy the guy
Starting point is 00:48:48 advanced on him that's crazy and it was like eight days ago that's a really quick trial that's really crazy no it's two years ago i just heard about it okay okay um i i i'm very confused about that i've heard someone told me that it was a very emotional courtroom was that carter also he made a few comments about it. I don't know. I'm just, it's very obvious the direction of things. And I wonder if the Sultanate's story about how policing operates is just dominoes falling over. No matter what you do when you get a society like this, it will always tend towards the path of least resistance.
Starting point is 00:49:21 That is, with like George Floyd, the police are, or Ahmaud Arbery is a really good example. The cops are like, we don't care if these guys are guilty or not guilty. We just don't want to deal with it. So lock them up for the rest of their lives. And that was the point of the Constitution to prevent things like this.
Starting point is 00:49:37 But this is what you get. I mean, look at the story Doug Mackey was telling us. He gets found guilty for posting a meme he found on the internet. He just tweeted it. He found a meme, he said, haha, and he tweeted it out. And then they're like, now you're going to jail for election fraud or whatever, injuring people. And it's like, how did the jurors find him guilty?
Starting point is 00:49:57 He was saying that the jury was hung twice and the judge said, nope, go back. You have to go back. And it's like, finally, what happens happens is you know they went back and the people who are like he's guilty said just say he's guilty so we can leave and they went fine it's so brutal if i was there i'd be like no you say he's not guilty and we can leave you want to go home you say not guilty but this is what we get right now jurors don't want to do jury dirty jury duty also i'm just you're scared as a woman mostly to knowing that the police is afraid to intervene if somebody is attacking you, right? Because there are so much limit. You think about George Floyd
Starting point is 00:50:33 and all other cases. They're always getting to the police for overpower their force and are always on the other side. Criminals are let free. I see in California, for example, this is this crazy law that you can steal up to the value of $1,000, right? So you have this gang of people going into the Gucci store and stealing bags. And then just you see the security looking at them, not even bothering calling police because there is nothing you can do. And this is a completely crazy society. Let's be realistic where this police is afraid to intervene because they're gonna have issues themselves they probably and it's more likely they end up going to jail than the criminal you're calling the police against so how how can you afford that in the long
Starting point is 00:51:17 term you have you have cities big cities full of criminals and the police that is basically not interested in to intervene anymore why would you do that Why would I do for my low salary risk my life at the time and then knowing that probably the jury will tell me that I've been violent, I've been racist, if I don't know if the other on the other side you happens to have a person of color or anything else, a minority group. It's just just crazy this is the other side of indo indoctrination this is the other issue you have when uh you know you build up this entire narrative that some categories must be protected even if they're criminals right you're scared to intervene you can't do anything about it what they're calling anarcho tyranny tyranny of the majority worst of
Starting point is 00:52:05 both yeah yeah because like people are so afraid of or have been of the cops and police violence that it swung in the other direction like they were so concerned with government overreach that they're now crowds of people storming and seizing and taking a bridge and holding was it the golden gate in san francisco was that golden gate they, yeah. They took control of the bridge and like, that's like they conquered a bridge, or at least they held a bridge for time. Cops should have been there. They should have been there with fire hoses,
Starting point is 00:52:33 as far as I'm concerned. I don't know. The video's wild. I mean, they're all laughing. They shove him to the ground, smack him in the face, try to push him down again, and they're all laughing as they're doing it. and the argument's supposed to be that he was threatening them because he he he ran up to them and it's like he didn't say anything to him did he is there like
Starting point is 00:52:52 did he before the video is that what happened before the video he harassed him and then they which chance a normal person will go after a gang and um you know start a fight i mean his self uh he would be suicidal you know I don't believe that. But he did lie to the cops right after it happened. If he felt like he was justified, I don't know why. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:53:13 Just like Daniel Penny. Very good for him to surrender. It's true. Some people turn themselves in and then they're the ones that end up getting arrested. Every time? When the Antifa and the Proud Boys fought. That's exactly what's going that's exactly what's gonna happen to talk to the cops and i'm i'm not
Starting point is 00:53:28 surprised we're at a point where a guy's like i'm i defended myself but now the cops are gonna lock me up forever welcome to uh the gulag uh archipelago really i don't think it's that bad that's the story that sol all it's innocent wrote yeah that when the guy was trying to kill the soldier the soldier defended himself so he went to jail you're like this is it you're not allowed to defend yourself these like you know we got a super chat what did what sunny g says you need to hear the whole story the man hit the girl in the face first and the teen boys drunk inter uh intervened that man gutted them all so they're why were they surrounding him and screaming at him and all yelling for the culture
Starting point is 00:54:10 and for the culture so i can't speak for wisconsin but in illinois that's assault that is so and not in every state in new york assault requires physical damage meaning in new york if someone grabs you there's no crime committed in illinois if someone lunges at you they've committed assault if they touch you in any way it's battery let alone if they injure you. So very different. So in Illinois, I can't, again, this is Wisconsin. If a bunch of people surround you screaming and pointing their hands at you, screaming in your face, insulting you and yelling for the culture, yeah, you're allowed to defend yourself. Granted, you're not allowed to defend yourself with any kind of weapon or anything in Illinois. They'll lock you up for having a rubber switch.
Starting point is 00:54:47 Or actually, I think it's the only one you're allowed to have. So, with all of that comment that we got, Dante Carlson was the witness that was there. He said, he initially told police that he saw Mew hit another woman, but then he changed his story before trial. So, that was an early, yeah, that's what he said initially. It's on video. You see the woman shove him. The guy, Nick Mews, just standing there. And then she shoves him.
Starting point is 00:55:09 And when he does, that's when he grabs the folding knife from his pocket and flips it out. So then they shove him to the ground. He falls down. They smack him in the face. And the dude who died then jumps at him to knock him back down. And he says, getting up. And watch the video. Mews just has the knife in his hand like this and he goes like that.
Starting point is 00:55:28 He didn't lunge at anybody. Then as they're all screaming and surrounding him, he does start slashing or whatever. So you're saying Mew told the police he punched the girl? No, there was somebody else that was there. They initially told the police, oh, I saw him hit a girl. Then he changed his story before trial.
Starting point is 00:55:44 Oh, and they said he didn't see him hit a girl. Yeah. Really? Yeah. And then, like, there was another person that said that they were, you know, they were drinking beer, and then, like, they were just like,
Starting point is 00:55:54 we couldn't really remember the timeline of events, you know, so it got, you know, fuzzy. And they're, you know, but despite the fact that their testimonies don't seem to be consistent the conviction went the other way so unsettling i don't know how to talk about this very well i don't know what to say i'm like a video game guy i'm like an entertainer this is i mean it's horrific but i don't have all the
Starting point is 00:56:20 details either well let's talk about the uh the other story then. We've got this story from People Video Show. Chicago police firing 96 shots in less than one minute during deadly traffic stop. Dexter Reed was killed during that stop. Now, how come, you know what,
Starting point is 00:56:35 I did this on my earlier, so I'll just do this right now. Let's just, I'll just fix the headline while we're here. Let's see, article headline. And here's a text and we'll,
Starting point is 00:56:43 some editorial guidelines here for people. Let's put, man shoots at cops is killed after they return fire and there we go people there we go the headline has now been fixed i did that in real time was not hard people magazine maybe you could uh you know that could be that could be your your title for this article but unfortunately it's not all almost every major news outlet is writing the headline like this the pictures they're showing of him i'll see if people magazine has it they show him like in in his graduation and i'm like look we get it people have good photos they have bad photos but this is a this is a video where they're like why was he even stopped uh they say he didn't
Starting point is 00:57:25 have a seat belt on he gets pulled over he pulled he appears to have something covering his face the cop says don't roll your window up he's just rolling his window up and she's like stop stop she backs up pulls out her weapon there's several officers surrounding the vehicle screaming stop roll the window down and then all of a sudden you hear bang, bang, bang. And they all run screaming shots, fired shots, fired. One of the cops got shot. So then they open fire on the vehicle and then he comes out, dies. They find a vehicle, they find a gun in the passenger seat. So the question is like, why did he roll up his window and not get out of the car? He had a gun. But he shot through his window or did he, the window was still cracked and he fired out the window at someone who hit the cop? Through the window.
Starting point is 00:58:07 It does look like in the video, like glass may go flying or something. So he may have opened fire. The media has been very careful in how they reported this. The police have said he shot a cop. Cop got shot. Yeah, when I search his name on Brave Search, Dexter Reedus says, A 26-year-old black man was shot and killed by Chicago police officers during a traffic stop on March 21st 2024. Yeah, they always make it look like as the police going around attacking Afro Americans, right? It's just like, they build up even in the media
Starting point is 00:58:37 with these headlines, this hatred toward the police up to the movement defund the police. To me, the police should be paid so much more. When I see the crime scene in America, I would make a movement to increase the salaries of the police and stop harassing them in the media and let them do their job. I mean, to me, this sounds crazy. Look at WGN9 Chicago. COPA.
Starting point is 00:59:03 This is cop oversight. Police fired 96 times after being fired upon in fatal humboldt park shooting last month hey there's that's that's an acceptable headline how about that one i accept it after they were fired upon but look what happens when you google this look at all the all the all the stories head of chicago police oversight wants officers stripped of powers dexter reed body camera footage shows 96 uh shots fired deadly chicago traffic stop where police fired 96 shots raises questions about use of force dexter reed shot and killed by police after traffic stop none of these even the new york post none of them say and look look at look at washington post does like come on man
Starting point is 00:59:39 yeah i'm i'm sad that somebody died here okay i don't want that to be the case. But when they complain that whenever a person is convicted of a crime or arrested for a crime, they use these horrible photos. Well, dude, this guy is accused of shooting at cops 11 times, striking one of them, and then they returned fire. And this is the photo you choose to use? Yeah, even
Starting point is 00:59:59 Jeffrey Dahmer has a beautiful college picture at his graduation, you know? Yeah, they can post that one of them from now on. So a lot of people are saying this is them trying to manufacture another George Floyd just in time for the election. And did you see the video of his mother? They killed my son.
Starting point is 01:00:15 He was just riding in his car and they killed him and then she faints. Yep. Yeah, so she's, you know, helping bolster that narrative quite nicely. She said he's just riding in his car and they killed him? He said, going for a ride that's all he was doing why did they kill him it's like and then she shot at them she's like oh she's lying in public she's like i can't take it anymore i did wrong i i think it's it's fair to say that there is a possibility he didn't fire on them the cops a scared cop fired first and that's why maybe news outlets
Starting point is 01:00:43 some news outlets are trying to be careful but when even the oversight agency said no they were fired on first it's like okay well then that's the premise we operate under they found a gun in his car occam's razor suggests the cops did not accidentally shoot him pull an acorn scenario where they think they're being shot at kill a guy and then have a gun to plant that's movie made up stupid BS. Hey, I don't trust Chicago cops. I got stories. But Occam's razor here, guys. The simple solution is a dude who did not want to get out of his car. I wonder why. Who was covering his face and rolling his window up
Starting point is 01:01:14 had a reason not to, apparently, and it was a gun, and then he used it on them. So it's still unknown if he opened fire first? No, even police oversight said he did. He did? Yeah, the body camera footage shows the cops running the vehicle. You hear gunshots go off and the cops run, screaming, shots fired, shots fired. I'm being very specific about what the video shows.
Starting point is 01:01:32 Oversight then said he fired on them first. So I don't know what else you do. Like Occam's razor, the least amount of assumptions. Yeah, that's him shooting. A cop got shot. I don't think another cop just shot a cop in the leg. Well, this is the modern state of politics in this country,
Starting point is 01:01:48 I suppose. Yeah, no, they want emboldened criminals and demonize police and the law and order. That's all they're trying to fight, law and order. And just like with Trump,
Starting point is 01:02:00 there's no pivot. You know what I mean? Like they're just, they're doing the same stuff with Trump this election cycle that they did in the first election cycle, just trying to make the same thing work again. And perhaps this is another instance of I mean like they're just they're doing the same stuff with Trump this election cycle that they did in the first election cycle just trying to make the same thing work again and perhaps this is another instance of that like they're just like okay
Starting point is 01:02:10 well let's do George Floyd 2.0 can we make that work yeah because they want it I don't think they want riots a lot of people are saying they want to make riots happen before an election no they want to bolster Black Lives Matter and that narrative and blame Trump. Yeah, they were waiting for Trump to get elected to incite another riot. Right. Yeah, after Trump's president, then they can claim he's a dictator and try and remove him or something. Yeah. Mega Mikey says a year ago, Dexter Reed
Starting point is 01:02:37 was charged on three counts of unlawful use of a firearm. Also, they never used his mugshot for the cover photo. That's why police pulled him over interesting wow yeah i also read that he had tinted windows or something tinted windows are a quick way to get pulled out of your car in chicago because uh i believe beyond 35 percent uh less than 35 35 percent tint then they're illegal so that means like that's a that's a decent amount of light blocking 35 it means only 35 of light can actually get through the tint this is fairly dark and then
Starting point is 01:03:09 what ends up happening is a cop can't see what's going on you roll your window up and now they're like okay that's a threat you won't get out of your vehicle and this is what you get man i'm not sure what i'm not what are you thinking my creativity about that i'm just so drained from the civil war movie and these like bouts of street violence. Like it doesn't bring me any joy. It stresses me out. I love to make great things and it's like hard to watch this sometimes.
Starting point is 01:03:31 It's important to acknowledge, but God, you know, healing, I want to heal the brain too. Were you going to say something about it? It sounds like you're just overwhelmed by the both the fictional representations of crime and the real life crime. Maybe that's what's going on.
Starting point is 01:03:45 I can totally relate to that. Yeah. I was listening to a lot of explosions earlier today in the movie theater for like two hours. It was pretty intense. Is that a prediction? Did you feel like a sort of prediction, something that is likely to come to reality soon?
Starting point is 01:03:58 Not like that. No, I think fascist, a peaceful fascist takeover is more likely where people start putting themselves in pods and just plugging their veins into a nutrition dump and they're like, uh. We're there. This is literally what's happening right now.
Starting point is 01:04:15 You get a letter in the mail saying jury duty and people crumple it up and throw it in the garbage and they're like, I ain't doing that. And then you end up with someone facing very serious charges and the government is like, we want to put him in jail forever and if you want to go home you have to say yes and then the jurors are like i don't care about this guy i just want to go home fine whatever you want to do bye that's where we're at so it it is you get a dictatorship when regular people are not interested in in in jury duty you're right the
Starting point is 01:04:41 era of 12 angry men isn't really what we're living in now. I mean, there's not really going to be that one lone voice. I mean, I guess there are people like that that actually would stand up for some sort of principles or they'd really dig into a case and say, no, I don't, I think everybody, I think all the people in this room are wrong, but I think the capacity for people to express that is pretty low, generally speaking. And those jurors are losing work days. The longer they stay there, I don't know if they're not getting paid i don't know how jury dirty work jury dirty jury dirty they get like a modified payment we're never going to the system's never gonna be fixed congress is never going to pass a bill there's no incentive for corrupt people to fix the system it needs to be that if you get jury duty then you you show how much money you make at your job and they cover it 100%.
Starting point is 01:05:25 And then they would just give it to poor people. That would be probably the case. Oh, yeah. You're right. That's true. And I was called for a jury duty during my immigration process and I was not even eligible for being in the jury.
Starting point is 01:05:38 They were threatening me. If you don't present yourself this day at the court in Los Angeles, we're going to start a criminal proceeding for breaching your duty. And then I called and said, listen, I have an exemption because actually I can't be there in my current status. So they let me go, but it was pretty odd.
Starting point is 01:05:56 I got a jury duty call before my green card. I guess it's how they vote too with the ballots. I don't know how many legal votes here. And I've never been illegal, but, you know, how things operate, it looks like they don't do their due diligence well enough. Another thing is it's important to remember is innocent. People are innocent. Until they're proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt of any kind, they're innocent. And that's the way the legal system works.
Starting point is 01:06:22 And it's got to continue to stay like that. I think culturally people think very differently in terms of that now it's not really just like guilty innocent until proven guilty i think that the guilt just sort of gets showered on people especially if they're a demonized person or a public demonized person and that makes it even more complicated for you know fair application of the law like it's funny the founding fathers are like innocent until proven guilty and the and the and the people are just like we don't care but that's that's really kind of the basic you know raw human emotion is just to declare somebody guilty instead of going in the opposite direction which is what the founding fathers envisioned like that's a very that's a
Starting point is 01:06:58 very base human impulse to just you know come with people like uh you know like a frankenstein with the fire torches. You just want to take them down. It really is a country of restraint. The United States is a country. The Constitution is immense restraint. Those guys understood you have to hold back your willingness and want to use power. That is what this is all about.
Starting point is 01:07:17 Let your neighbors be great. Media makes sentences more than quotes today, right? They brainwash people so much think about uh trump everybody has been accused of so many things but in the perception he's guilty of that many things and those because of the media yeah i mean you look at the fraud uh the fraud cases and all this stuff there's they just the judge just bangs the gavel says it's true and then you get these people screaming on camera being like it's true it's true this proves it and it's and says, it's true. And then you get these people screaming on camera being like, it's true. It's true. This proves it.
Starting point is 01:07:45 And it's like, man, this is how you get Nazis. It's how you get Stalin. It's how you get communists. Regular people are like, what is that authority? It's true. Okay. It's true then. It's easier than thinking.
Starting point is 01:07:57 Yep. It is. Trust the science. Jimmy Dore's great bit where he's like, on no other subject would someone say this. Like, you're going to buy a car. It's like, well, don't look into it. It's like, what? How am I supposed to know which car to buy?
Starting point is 01:08:09 Ask the salesman. He's the expert. That's how these people live. The authority is everything. Nothing else matters. It's wild. I wonder if it's just like a natural filtration process where credentialism, critical thinkers who are like, I don't know if this guy is telling me the truth regardless of his credentials, are filtered out. And the left is literally just people
Starting point is 01:08:29 who believe whatever they hear from a trusted authority. I don't even know if it's necessarily the leftists. I mean, like, I think about some of the people that I know and some of the people, even my family, and like, they're not really leftists. Like, they don't have any kind of like core political ideology that guides them. It's just, they just turn on the corporate press and get poisoned by it.
Starting point is 01:08:47 It's the authority. Whatever the authority says is fine. And the level of comfort in the country for people. Like, if I just go along with what I'm told, I'll get to do this again tomorrow. I'll get to sit in my house and retire. Yeah, get your dopamine drip from your phone. You have nothing that really overly pokes you or prods you into changing anything. Because you're like, oh, well, this is nice.
Starting point is 01:09:04 I can sit with my phone. It's like, oh like oh well that's happening outside there you said in the movie too like that war's happening over there it's not happening in my neighborhood it takes a lot to get to an actual person actually bother them to do anything you know even people that are like morally ethical ethical can be just twisted by that that behavior of like just accepting what you're being told from the outside yeah i think a lot of them are just trapped in it hopelessly so which is really sad but yeah killing critical thinking is the best way to control you know so i think it's a technique mastered by every dictatorship on a side or another look at italy and the bad history of fascism sometimes ago, that was exactly the trust in the authority as you trust God.
Starting point is 01:09:48 So you never question, you know, right. So that's really like going to, to attack the critical thinking, which you should, you know, talk and preserve and teach people how to think.
Starting point is 01:09:58 You're talking about Mussolini? Oh yeah. Is that what he did? Yes. Like basically equalizing authority to God, you know, like you trust whatever the authority tells you. It's like a God word.
Starting point is 01:10:09 So people accept everything you say, even if it's evil. Like just, you know, like I think the liberals are doing that in America. Everything that comes from their mouth is sacred in many ways, right? Nobody question it. Nobody question Joe Biden. Come on. Was it like that with with do you know a lot about the history of mussolini was it like that before he came to power were people just
Starting point is 01:10:29 blind authority and and no he's the one who actually came to power with uh you know with very good principles but completely twisting them and pushing them to the extent of uh using a good facade of values to convince people to believe in him and the authority as God. Let's say it's like liberals talk about inclusion and non-discrimination, but actually they are doing exactly the opposite. They are discriminating everyone who thinks differently. They are everything but liberal when it comes to inclusions because if you are a maga or a right-wing person they you're seen as hell and actually everything that happens
Starting point is 01:11:11 to you even if somebody kills me today it's okay because you know she was a right-wing propagandist you know i've seen that threats on my social media where they feel entitled to hate you based on your political beliefs and mussolini was the same basically good values low family and country but not just as a facade to give trust to people in the authority like blind trust and then make them accept alliances with nazi without questioning it did he turn on his own people uh well italian jews yes oh he did was that after he allied with the nazis yes he just went along with hitler yes like a lot of people i i've actually considered that he's kind of he was hitler's mentor in the early days like hitler looked at him was like oh that's what a good
Starting point is 01:11:58 dictator is like and and mussolini had invaded i think northeast africa yes yes and then hitler was like i'm just gonna invade because everybody's doing it now. Italy was very safe. It was providing a certain level of general wealth, you know, like people were living well. So people, and generating into them this trust and this like religious trust in the authority. And this is dangerous.
Starting point is 01:12:21 Because they were doing well, it was able to generate a blind trust yes in the because they felt like they were getting their yes their livelihood from the authority yes and if you hear like all the people even right now they would say oh the good time like i'm talking about 95 years old people in italy the good time on mussolini because they are completely cut off you know the rest we just remember the quality of life of this time but i see that technique in the liberals today in america they master it so well like they actually are masters in projection and they use nice words to incite people to do bad things right so
Starting point is 01:12:59 everything that happened to a trump supporter is good. Even the most violent action, harassment is fine because you're a bad guy. You are the bad guy, right? But then they are the one that promotes inclusion, tolerance, actually they scream like psychopaths if you don't agree with them. I mean, there's a level of intolerance that is unprecedented in any culture
Starting point is 01:13:19 I've seen in the world. I mean, these people are unhinged. Yeah, toxically compassionate. Sometimes with, especially with letting people across the border illegally en masse and these people are unhinged. Yeah, toxically compassionate sometimes, especially with letting people across the border illegally in mass and these mobs. That's like, yes, inclusion, inclusion, but if you include poison in your veins, you're going to die.
Starting point is 01:13:34 So you can't include everything around you. If you include a mass murderer at your dinner table, you're going to be in probably a lot of trouble if he decides to go haywire. So you really got to be careful about who you... I'm not saying to be xenophobic because people are phenomenal, but in the wrong... You got to be discerning in the way you include people in your life. Yeah, that's key. These people don't have discernment. They don't have intellectual
Starting point is 01:13:57 or spiritual discernment when it comes to these matters. That's really interesting about... You can't just include poison in an injection, but that's the thing. They't have that that capability or willingness to be discerning of what's good and what's bad maybe because they don't have some core values to rely on you know when things are really tough and things are tough right because they were raised on south park no offense guys trey but it's that that's like a hard nasty show guys there's a cartoon like little kids that thought that was normal i watched like Looney Tunes. And then South Park was like an adult show, but I think little kids were watching it
Starting point is 01:14:29 thinking it was okay to act like that and talk like that. Because I knew kids in like grade school, high school who watched South Park. Yeah. And so little kids were like, I'm gonna, this is normal. This is who.
Starting point is 01:14:39 And everyone keeps saying like, it's a parental issue. And I'm like, well, parents have failed them. Because like when I was a kid, we couldn't watch Be't watch weaves and butted there were parental controls in the cable box and you needed a four digit code to unlock certain channels and then only certain episodes my mom would be like okay we can watch this one this one's like yep and then uh today i just love how it's like as soon as it came to the internet, our society was just like, we no longer need to provide any legal restrictions for minors for anything, period. So it's like there's a story going around where high school kids are AI generating porn of their classmates.
Starting point is 01:15:14 So these are children. Yeah. And they're just like, what do we do about it? And it's like, what do you do about kids going to adult bookstores? It's like, you don't let them in but for some reason the internet is full of these people who are like no you can't take away my porn it's like yeah we're gonna age verify things the way they they should have been a long time ago and ban young people from uh unsupervised use of the internet i i just i'm sick of this it's
Starting point is 01:15:41 the parents job it's like okay well the left is indoctrinating your kids then have a nice day you refuse like the right refuses to use any kind of authority like we're at the point where the left is having children strip on stage in like gay clubs and the left and and the right is still like the parents should be better parents it's like well okay I guess is the right so scared of using authority because they keep being accused of being authoritarians? I don't know, man. I think probably Trump was when he didn't call out the National Guard on the day two of the George Floyd riot. I'm pretty sure that's why he didn't call him out right away. He didn't want to seem like a fascist.
Starting point is 01:16:14 But other people, I think, are maybe the really well thought people that don't want to use the government to authoritarianism to stop this stuff is because they don't want it to get then turned against other aspects of society that aren't unrighteous that aren't evil that are actually good that some crazy government is like no no you can't say fuck on the internet no you can't say that and that kind of thing and then like banning people to say that words they don't like and crap like that or imagery they don't like you can't wear red shirts on tuesday no you're banned like you don't want to give any government that kind of authority but then the other option is anarcho-tyranny do you want a wide open internet of people showing four-year-olds pornography no no people don't want that either but the right is unwilling to legislate this stuff they're they're like this this has been consistently the theme with the right
Starting point is 01:17:01 they will not wield power they just they They win seats in Congress and then go, okay, now we'll do nothing. And they all high five as the Democrats encroach further and further. I'm thinking of the metaphor of like in a military conflict where one side just refuses to finish the job because it feels like it's just going too far. And then they just get wiped out because they wouldn't finish the job. Well, we have to get rid from the dictatorship of the politically correct on the right as well. Like we are afraid to take any action or implement any law because we're afraid to be seen as authoritarian or because it's politically sensitive. No, just implement the policies and the platform you
Starting point is 01:17:38 voted for and go for it. I want to see more of that in politics on the right side, because I agree with Tim. I mean, that shouldn't be allowed. What would be a good example of that? How would you define that? Just put a law that bans basically access to a certain content to minors, and just a code, something.
Starting point is 01:17:59 I know internet is very difficult to regulate, but we have to do it at some point. It should be a major issue from legislators to make sure that kids and minors don't have access to this content or punish whoever violate these norms or not giving access to, I don't know, clubs like that to minors that are dancing on stage, you know, like gay club stages and doing all these kind of things. We are afraid to come across as authoritarian well that's get rid uh from the fear of this dictatorship that is the politically correct there is nothing such as politically correct there is your platform you're being voted upon and just make your job to make sure the society is in
Starting point is 01:18:42 order because you know the responsibility is not only the family I'm sorry it's not this is what that Civil War movie needed it needed like a scene where the journalists come across a drag show for kids outside of like some town and then like the movie starts with a bunch of people
Starting point is 01:19:00 begging for water from an aid truck and then a person with an American flag runs in and IEDs and it should have been a drag show for kids that someone runs in the the the civil war narrative film needs to actually address modern politics to make its point otherwise it's just hey look war and i guess the idea is like in war films, people don't internalize it. They say, wow, that's happening over there. And they don't realize that if it were to happen here, what it would look like. So I can respect that film in that respect. But there needs to be a film where it just like outright shows what the left does.
Starting point is 01:19:38 And then how the right responds. And then take it to like, take it up a notch. The funny thing is like we're talking about this film and you know this is the fear of civil war but the element that's missing from the narrative is the weird behaviors of the factions mostly the left and like what they're trying to defend like the founding fathers are like life liberty and and and family and the left is, we want kids to read naughty books. Like that's their, their, their motive. Yeah. The desire for full access to everything for kids is like a little over the top.
Starting point is 01:20:12 I I'm sorry, man, but I was sorry. I'm sorry to admit that I used to be like that, that I was very much like all of it all the time. Open it all up. We've just now unlocked the internet. This is the new paradigm brace yourself plug everybody in like that was very i was just like the writing's on the wall why deny it here we go and i feel like i've actually kind of pushed us towards that in a way
Starting point is 01:20:34 i used to make videos about it on youtube and they would get they were pretty well received by people they'd be confused but they'd be like really oh and uh but the reality is you got to protect those kids brains yeah the principle is right until you can see now what they did of it you know it was not the principle itself i can relate to but when you see the the generation of the content it's just crazy you need to do something i mean i'm such a boomer in terms of technology i find it hard to believe that you actually could implement legislation that keeps minors and children from accessing pornography and stuff like that? That doesn't matter. Kids are going to get fake IDs and sneak into adult bookstores.
Starting point is 01:21:10 Okay, alright. We still say they can't do it. But ultimately, if it was implemented, it would prevent a lot of kids from doing it. So we make it so that these, and a lot of states are doing it. Texas. You want to log into a website, you've got to send in your ID. And then people are like, Tim, say what Kamala Harris said.
Starting point is 01:21:27 And it's like, I don't care. I literally don't care. Cry about it. Cry all day. Like, my position is my position. I don't care if you're angry. It was Nikki Haley. Nikki Haley said that.
Starting point is 01:21:35 Yeah, Nikki Haley is like, we should have IDs for the internet. But what did she say? Like, everyone should be verified or something? In order to use the internet, you should have to verify your identity. Yeah, so I'll give you the clarified version of what, I don't know what she's talking about. I'm saying if you want to go to the grocery store, you don't need anything. You can walk right in, walk right out. That's fine.
Starting point is 01:21:53 No one needs to card you to leave your home. If you want to go to an adult bookstore or casino, you got to show an ID. Technically, if you're a minor and you're alone, can't you just get picked up by the cops and taken home? Yes. You're not allowed to be walking around outside as well. Well, it depends on the time of day. Like in Chicago, they have curfew.
Starting point is 01:22:10 And it's wild. I've never been picked up for curfew. I'm pretty sure my brother has though. The only ever time I got stopped for curfew, I was with my brother. And so they just said, hey, you shouldn't be out. And he's like, he's with me.
Starting point is 01:22:20 I'm old enough. And they're like, whatever. And then they drove off. But they will actually, you'll like, I think that's insane that you're 16 you're walking down the street in chicago at 10 30 and the cop will pull over but get in where you live like that's the most conservative like here's the such a conservative law to look put up against like four-year-olds seeing porn on their iphone here's the funny stories like i've heard a bunch of funny stories about like my friends would get picked up for curfew and the cops would be like
Starting point is 01:22:48 your parents have to sign for you and they would go okay and then they would give them the address on the other side of the alley from their home because i don't know if like how many cities are like this uh but in chicago it's like every house has a backyard and garage and then you go through the alley and there's another garage and so they're like back to back and so he's like this is my house like i'll go to my parents and then he walks out walks into the backyard of a stranger's house turns right turns left jumps the fence jumps the fence again into his house goes in his house and just closes the door wow and then the cops just are like no idea he's just gone and they wait there for a certain amount of time and they're like whatever and they leave but it is pretty it's always been pretty wild to me that
Starting point is 01:23:24 i'm like you could be 16 years old and if you're out at 11 o'clock like that's crazy because when i was like 16 i'd go to the comic shop we play like arcade we play marvel versus capcom and then at like 10 30 i'd rollerblade home or something well no when i was 16 i was skateboarding when i was 13 i was rolling but then i'd be like skateboarding home and i'm like what a cop would just pick me up never happened they don't really mess with people on wheels i never got messed with I was always on a bike that's a good tip Dan go on wheels no I knew I knew a kid who got a speeding ticket on a skateboard oh my gosh how fast was he going like 20 something whoa wow yeah yeah it was bombing a
Starting point is 01:23:56 hill and so the cops like went after him and he was like I think it was a longboard or something but he was bombing this big hill and the speed limit was like 20 it might have it might have been a speed limit 15 I think and then he was going like but i think he was going like 20 miles an hour wow and then the cops and then he like oh slid in the grass and then they wrote him a ticket he's like what they're like you were speeding he's like what and he's like law didn't say anything about what kind of vehicle you have to be on oh that's good to know well i just got my license today by the way talking about speeding i passed the driving test on test on the first try. I got my first drive test 30 years ago, but I'd let it lapse and expire.
Starting point is 01:24:29 So I hadn't taken it since. I was kind of excited to take the test again and find out. Nice. I still got it, baby. That's a milestone, baby. Ian would say that when he was taking the test, they start you up. You have to score at least a 95 to pass,
Starting point is 01:24:40 and they start you off minus 10 points if you're a white male. What? So I had to go behind the counter get down on my knees it's possible it's possible i was like maybe it's possible you know this goes crazy everything's possible it's another weird thing i used to say he had to get his license because uh we're moving this room is empty and you can't even tell yeah i'm gonna be commuting to work after oh wow i didn't notice the room you're right
Starting point is 01:25:03 yeah no one no one No one watching the show can realize that we're in an empty room right now. The move is real. It's happening. But it is funny because no one can even see the table that we're sitting at. It's a big and nice table, by the way. Someone once told me that they thought the show was all of us at our own little desks in separate parts of the room, and I was like, that's weird.
Starting point is 01:25:20 When I first started, I was alone in a corner desk. Remember when we had Mal, Wes, and Jones on? That wasn't the first one. Early on. First, you were actually just sitting off to the side. Oh, yeah. That was at the old Jersey house.
Starting point is 01:25:32 We had an extra set in the corner where you could come and go if we had extra guests. You could hear me on the mic, but he'd be way over there. So it'd be real weird talking to him when he was like 30 feet away. But that was when we had extra people. And you came up and you'd sit down and we were like like yeah we need a bigger desk we should talk to thomas massey about um said doing legislation to ban this stuff because he's the most righteous congressman as far as i can tell in my opinion oh yeah i agree i'd like to get i don't know i kind of feel like he'd just be like i'm opposed to any kind of restrictions
Starting point is 01:26:01 and regulations you think he's gonna lean super libertarian on that? Parents should do it. Yeah. And it's just like, I guess it's true that parents should do it. I don't know, man. But I think what's going to happen then is that the far left lies to parents. The parents then go along with it, and the kids' brains fall out of their heads. That's exactly what's happening. Schools could ban phones.
Starting point is 01:26:22 You could make public schools ban phones. Then we'd lose a lot of fight footage that's floating around out there yeah but isn't it the right left that is claiming authority to take over parenthood if they consider that the parents are not understanding of the gender it's not even that the left has already said it's our children exactly or something they said it's our children so you know you have on the side they claim authority they take over and on the other side they let it to the parents you know we have to find a middle ground because they're taking over in any way anyway yep that's true it's crazy yeah it is um i don't i mean it's it's not like bringing a gun to school I mean, it's not like you're bringing a gun to school.
Starting point is 01:27:07 Like, bringing a phone to school is not like bringing a gun to school. But the information can warp your mind in such a way that it can never be undone. Like, I still remember that movie, Chances Are. I was talking about it last night. Just some weird movie I saw where the guy dates his reborn. Oh, yeah. Dates his daughter. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:20 Oh, my God. It's Robert Downey Jr., Sybil Shepard. And it twisted my mind mind not necessarily in a horrible way what was it called chances are and this is where like the guy dies and comes back and then tries to bang his daughter yeah he's so in love that he runs through the line waiting to get vaccinated so he forgets his past life and then he just bypasses that and gets reborn and then he starts to meet a girl he's dating her and then he starts to remember that it's his daughter i guess it's been so long since i saw it what's the name of the chances are chances but it was like a sexual fantasy of mine
Starting point is 01:27:48 as a kid it was weird twisted me in a weird way bang your daughter it wasn't i don't remember that aspect i just remember sybil shepherd being real hot and i was like she's really attractive and robert down jr is really making her really attractive in this movie somehow and i was like 10 or 12 and it was stuck with me for years after that yeah i didn't see that movie that young that probably would be a trip yeah yeah it was weird a mind warp uh-huh that was just a simple movie so these these phones in schools if the kids like look and they show you the most graphic you don't even ask for it kids like look at this because kids are can be pretty dickish in school like i've had kids come up and do some pretty cruel to me and like if a kid just
Starting point is 01:28:24 shows someone some horrid shit, do you blame their parent? Do you have to guilt by association or do you, what do you do? Take, what were you going to say?
Starting point is 01:28:32 Well, I mean, right now, they're literally just like, this is you, naked. I mean, that's what they're doing. They got these AI-generated,
Starting point is 01:28:38 I mean, they could literally just show you what seems to be you without clothes on. I mean, that's how crazy AI is and how quickly it's erupted. I mean, in terms of who do you without clothes on. I mean, that's how crazy AI is and how quickly
Starting point is 01:28:45 it's erupted. I mean, and in terms of who do you appeal to first? I mean, my first thought would be the parents, but I guess everybody would deal with it differently. Do you think it's like too tyrannical to petition public schools to ban, like the Department of Education to ban phones, cell phones from public schools? Maybe, maybe not. Maybe it's a good idea. I mean, it's very difficult to control, you know, because for example, I have a young niece and she's at school.
Starting point is 01:29:13 This is in Italy, we have the same issues. And her parents told her not to bring, they never allowed her to have a phone. But when she goes to school, all her friends at school have a phone. So just play with their phone, you know? So maybe this is a solution. Homeschool your kids.
Starting point is 01:29:30 She is eight. Homeschool. Yeah, homeschool. Homeschool your kids. Yeah. Kids don't listen to you at home. Homeschool. Really?
Starting point is 01:29:38 I think homeschool is the same. I mean, my kids are really young, you know, and they listen as good as they can. They're, you know, three and a half and two. But I've also talked to parents that have done the homeschooling thing, and they often report that my kids don't listen to me. And they don't listen in school either. Right. But I've also heard stories from people that's just like, well, I couldn't teach my kid how to play guitar, even though I'm a guitar player, you know, my kid will not listen to me. So he had to send his kid to a professional teacher.
Starting point is 01:30:07 I mean, I know it sounds counterintuitive. I know it sounds counterintuitive, but this is the anecdotal stories that I'm hearing is I'm really trying to sort out what I'm gonna do with these kids when it comes time to go into school. And I'm totally conflicted about it. I've got some time to figure it out,
Starting point is 01:30:21 but I really don't know what the right move is. I think the right move is what humans did for 40 000 years but we're not in that time anymore yeah you know you're we're into the vortex with you like i can see why that that phenomenon you're talking about happens like the external authority is like okay it's not my parents have been telling me what to do for three five years i'm i'm whatever you're telling me one more thing to do this guy now is telling me something new and he's fresh. So I've got some added intensity to this being told.
Starting point is 01:30:49 So maybe if you have a tutor come over to your house and teach them with you and let the kids know you're as good as they are and you're an equal authority, then they'll look to you with that value.
Starting point is 01:30:59 Well, perhaps. Homeschool your kids. That's the answer. It's probably the only solution. Or like do it in the backyard or get out of the house too. You think changing the venue might help? I don't know. I'm just throwing stuff out there. school your kids that's the answer the only solution or like said do it in the backyard or get out of the house do you think changing the venue might help i don't know i'm just throwing stuff out there maybe not it's it's really tough to say the other thing is that like
Starting point is 01:31:13 what i've heard is that like kids that have really bad home lives will behave at home because they're terrified of what their parents will do but then they go to uh you know daycare or like a preschool and they're they're wild. They act crazy and they have problems at school. But kids that have a good home life, they act crazy at home, but they behave themselves outside of the home because they get all that stuff out with their parents. But when they're with somebody that's not their parents, they already know how to behave. I mean, I talk to a lot of people that are parents. I'm really trying to sort this out for myself. And I think it's really, really complicated.
Starting point is 01:31:48 It's more complicated than just homeschool your kids is what I'm getting at. Yeah, but I mean, like, even back in the day, some dude would get a homestead in the middle of nowhere with his family, have like four or five kids and a wife, and the kids would farm and the kids would work. Great. We're not back in the day, though.
Starting point is 01:32:04 We're not back in the day. So what's the issue i i will get back to you on that i don't know because i'm still in the middle century children have just stopped acting like children have for hundreds of thousands of years i don't think that's more thousands of years i don't think that's necessarily a crazy thing to posit because i mean like look i mean we we're just talking about how like you have ai generated nudes that people are showing each other of themselves in high schools but that's why you don't you homeschool your kids i know but you don't give your kid phones you don't give your kid phones yeah don't give your kid so when do you give your kid a phone 16 maybe okay so you're 16 year old in school you have your phone like no you're not in school you're homeschooled but but i mean like
Starting point is 01:32:44 the the problem with the phone technology still exists. Neighbors. Yeah. Friends. If you, if we have a friend that has a phone or they have their mom's phone or something. So you don't,
Starting point is 01:32:52 and then you just don't want to hang out at that person's house. Cause they have a phone at the house. That's intense. That, I mean, my mom wouldn't, I knew a kid in the neighborhood that put gasoline on the ground and lit it on fire.
Starting point is 01:33:02 And they were like, ha ha. Yeah. And I went home and I told my parents, I was like, it was cool. We were like, I was like, you can never hang out with him again again he's a fireman you and i never hung out with him again you can you can accept that moral degeneracy is here to stay that children are going to get access to phones and scat porn and snuff and
Starting point is 01:33:17 and murder and all these things there's nothing you can do about it so give up give up this is what this is this is the position that conservatives have taken on abortion conservatives have said we cannot win the abortion argument so abandon it and then trump came out and said well the states decide they're literally saying it's baby murder but the states can decide if they want to murder babies that's they've abandoned the moral position this is why many pro-lifers are mad at trump right now because he's not arguing so if the argument is look we're in this era you can't stop kids they're going to do it then accept your kids will grow up to be degenerates it's going to happen have fun you can't stop kids. They're going to do it. Then accept your kids will grow up to be degenerates. It's going to happen.
Starting point is 01:33:47 Have fun. You can't do anything about it. Or you can homeschool your kids and reject it and do your best to keep your family away from this stuff. And then perhaps they'll be regenerates. Regenerates. Redemption pattern. I'm going to raise regenerates.
Starting point is 01:34:00 Regeneration. Redemption pattern from degeneration. I'm raising a bunch of regeneration. I think the reason why, you know, we had Nick Freitas on the show. Great guy. Talking about his family. And I was like, I feel like, you know, I asked him about his family. And I mentioned the phase of, you know, I hate you, dad.
Starting point is 01:34:18 And he's like, we never had that. And I was like, I figured, and I was going to ask you this because of just like his moral demeanor and the way he behaves and stuff. I don't think, I was like, based on on who he is he would have that phase where his kids were like i hate you and i said i think the reason we've developed this i hate you dad phase is because parents leave their kids how was it for tens of thousands of years as soon as the kid was old enough he was grabbing the wood to help the dad he He'd say, do what you can. The kid was, he's like, okay, you're, you're six. You're old enough. Now pick up that bucket of water, bring it over to me. And the kid would do it. And so that kid was with the dad and the mom
Starting point is 01:34:52 all day working at the house and working on the house was how you did things. Now today, dad leaves and the kids are sitting there with no dad. And then dad comes home and the kids have no idea what dad does. And then kids are spending most of their time and their authority figures are strangers. So now you're getting the, I hate you, dad or mom. They're not going to listen to what you say because you are actually not their real parent. You're a biological parent, but you are not the person who has been there the whole time teaching them how to live. You've been an ancillary character there half the time, while the other half, it's been a group of strangers in a building who treat them like crap.
Starting point is 01:35:27 And that's what we've been for a hundred years. My parents did a pretty cool thing where they unified. They had like, I was never able to get one of them to do something the other one wouldn't allow. They were like behind my back, a solid unit. And so I kind of, my dad would work for two days at a time. He's a fireman for 24 hours. He'd go work at a hospital as an orthopedic technician.
Starting point is 01:35:44 Then he'd come back on day three and he'd be with us for a day. And so I didn't see him a lot. But because they were so unified, I felt like he was still present. And we would still, my mom would take us to go see him, give him lunch every once in a while. But I felt like he was still present. So when he was there, I still sensed his authority through her. And I could tell he was the man in the house when he was around. And the way it used to be was that kids lived basically the same lives as their grandparents.
Starting point is 01:36:08 Granddad woke up and he tended the crops and the chickens and he'd feed the pigs and then he'd come in and then he'd take care of house stuff. He'd be building something and the kids would watch him. And then when the kid was old enough, he'd be like, hey, hand me that hammer. Here, let me show you what I'm doing. Then the kid's a teenager and he's like, you're responsible for the chickens now. You're old enough. And then the kid would become an adult and be like damn i'm gonna get married i'm 18 years old and he's like there's a very fine mary sue down the street wow mary sue and the families come
Starting point is 01:36:32 together and there'd be a dowry and then they'd all come together and help build a house for the kid and then the kid would grow up doing literally what his dad did what his granddad did and their lives were very similar and they were learning from each other and then we industrialized and then we were like time to put kids in pseudo factories where the bell rings every shift change so they can be good little workers take them from their parents and put them in the coal mines and then all of a sudden the kids are not learning from their parents anymore we totally separate family and then it's no surprise the level of degeneracy that we have now it's it's like you ask yourself how we went thousands of years with zero degeneracy. And then in the span of three generations, we went as far as you could possibly go.
Starting point is 01:37:13 Because we cut kids off from their parents. And we haven't seen the last 2,000. There might have been a lot of degen in the last 2,000 years of degeneracy. But a lot of it's on camera now. So it's like undeniable. It's documented. And it's all, a lot of it's on camera now, so it's like undeniable. Right, it's documented. Yeah. And it's all about leading by example, right?
Starting point is 01:37:30 When you anarchy take over, that's what happens. I mean, like before it was completely different, you know, I come from Italy where it's a pretty conservative, you know, lifestyle, and still we have a reality like that, but I can see this shifting and getting closer and closer to what we see here now. Who's the Italian prime minister?
Starting point is 01:37:49 It's a Giorgia Meloni. Yeah, is she cool? She seemed like she was like a nationalist. Yeah, she's actually a big, big right-wing patriot. She used to emulate Donald Trump up to the election, but now she's kind of disappointing me for her policies toward immigration She's allowing. Yes, we are experiencing an illegal immigration flaws unprecedented as before Italy
Starting point is 01:38:16 She's kind of bending to the European Union socialist dictatorship when it comes to Certain policies so she has been voted on a very incredible platform. I was one of the people that voted for her. But I think some of her promises are not truly met at the moment. But definitely, yes. So even the most liberal of Italians is a conservative here. So it's a kind of difference into looking into politics. We're going to go to Super Chat. So if you you haven't already would you kindly smash that like button subscribe to this
Starting point is 01:38:49 channel share the show with your friends and head over to timcast.com if you'd like to watch the members only uncensored show the show is only possible thanks to viewers like you who become members to support our work and make it all happen that uh that'll be up at 10 p.m it's gonna be fun not so family friendly the first comment i going to read is from a member. He said, Tim raised a cat sort of like a kid. Two cats. Okay.
Starting point is 01:39:10 Get it right. And I did right by Mr. Boca. See, we isolated him from the other cats because they had bad behaviors. And so that was the point. He learned from me how to be a cat.
Starting point is 01:39:19 He was a good cat. Yeah, I had to scratch things to teach him how to scratch. And he was a good cat. Everyone agrees. I rubbed his back one time and he swiped at me. But his nail came just close to my scratch. And he was a good cat. Everyone agrees. I rubbed his back one time and he swiped at me. But his nail came just close to my forehead.
Starting point is 01:39:28 And I was like, it was a warning. I respect you, Bucko. I trained him. I said, Bocas, if Ian ever comes at you, you've got to give him the old one-two. And then he was like, one-two, one-two. And then he learned. And then he swung at Ian. If only he didn't pee everywhere.
Starting point is 01:39:43 I was like grabbing his back and rubbing his back. He's like, yeah. He didn't look angry. Oh, dude. He would just, no matter what, he would just pee everywhere. I don't get it. Man, my parents, I tell my parents, it's so wild, but they would always teach me, like, don't get male cats.
Starting point is 01:39:55 Do not get a male cat. They'll pee all over your house. You've got to cut your balls off. No, no. Seamus doesn't do that. He doesn't? Yeah, Seamus is pretty chill. Okay.
Starting point is 01:40:01 Then it was just bucko. He's a wild cat. Seamus rolls around on the floor in the house, and then he goes and takes a dump in his box. I love that cat, by the way. Do you have cats? Seamus is pretty chill. Then it was just Bucko. He's a wild cat. Seamus rolls around on the floor in the house, and then he goes and takes a dump in his box. I love that cat, by the way. Do you have cats? Seamus? We did. The cat we're talking about just died like a month ago.
Starting point is 01:40:13 It was really sad. Sorry. He was wasting away. He had kidney problems. He was born on the street, gutter cat, so he had underdeveloped organs and stuff. We had him stem cells. We did a lot for the guy,
Starting point is 01:40:24 and it was really great to have him around. But he was like a wild cat inside. His kidneys were too small. You might be able to smell his remnants here. His urine. His adult body was, the kidneys were doing twice the work for cats. So he eventually just.
Starting point is 01:40:35 But Seamus is chubby. Yeah, Seamus is a great cat. You should bring him on the show someday. Is he here? He's at the other house. Seamus is sassy and chubby. He's fat and sassy. Yeah. We're talking about Seamus 1, not the cartoonist. other house Seamus is uh sassy and chubby he's fat and sassy yeah we're talking about Seamus one not the cartoonist that's Seamus two who will be here in in like two weeks all
Starting point is 01:40:51 right here we go Clint Torres says howdy people howdy Clint Shane Twyler says Tim I would love to hear you do a full review of Civil War but I'd probably die of alcohol poisoning I guess what I would say the most disappointing thing is I'd like to see a movie about a civil war not a movie about journalists on an adventure but as someone who's done conflict reporting there was a lot that i really liked about it uh there was one scene in the beginning where when the uh when the what i would describe as the maga suicider blows up and kills a bunch of innocent people because that's the movie i guess uh kirsten dunst's character walks over the corpses and starts taking pictures and then the young journalist looks at her and takes a picture of her doing it yeah and I was like that was good because too many of these journalists like they it's it's even in the movie
Starting point is 01:41:35 they do this and I'm just like I know I know who they consulted with these people are such awful there's like they're all hanging out at the hotel laughing and comparing their photos of corpses and everything and they're like wow that's a really good one pointing to a guy bleeding to death. And they laugh about it. And they enjoy doing it. And they're all partying and drinking. And they think they're special. So there's like numerous instances where in the movie they act like they're not there as people during a shootout.
Starting point is 01:42:02 And there are some scenes where it like, you know, bites them in the ass. And so that's good that they show that. I think it's important people realize this. The story I like to tell is when I was in Ferguson and the protesters all left one day and there were like 30 journalists in one big cluttered bunch in front of like some kind of APC. And they're all taking pictures,
Starting point is 01:42:24 just slowly walking backwards and the truck is slowly moving forward going you must disperse go home now and this there's no protesters anywhere it's literally just journalists journalists taking pictures and then the apc goes journalists we are talking to you you must disperse. But these people are, they think they're special. And so they're like, I'm going to get that really cool picture. I've seen journalists stage photos every single time I've been at a protest. In Anaheim, there was one famous incident that went viral where they asked the protesters to pause and display the flag for them.
Starting point is 01:43:00 A journalist is like, hey, can you come down and hold that flag up for me? Gets a picture. And then they're like, you're asking the participants to pose for you and they're like what do you mean yeah they do it all the time it's so fake i can't stand these people but anyway that's why that's one that's why i enjoyed it there's like in the beginning the young reporter gets smacked in the face by a truncheon and kirsten dunst is like put this vest on and she's like no i'm not gonna like put it on and i'm like oh it's it's so obvious they had the stupidest mainstream journalist uh with no conflict experience
Starting point is 01:43:31 telling these people what to do okay because like an insurance company is gonna say wear a vest a conflict reporter is going to say depending on the situation a vest is a target so know your surroundings and decide when it's appropriate and so this idea that like you're a young journalist in new york you better wear your your neon vest i was like oh please dude there was a there's a famous story of like a journalist went to i think it was like iraq and uh she wore a press helmet body armor and she got shot and killed and then another journalist went and she wore hijab and she walked around with no problems for years filming and taking photos and like the story and and and hustle environment courses will will teach you this they'll tell you this they'll say yeah because they're looking for the journalists and if and if you're if you're an insurgent group you do not like journalists that's that's what got
Starting point is 01:44:22 me and we are doing a little bit of spoilers i saw someone in the comments was like oh my god spoilers we spoiled the the movie early on in the show i'm gonna do it again right now why in the were they driving around where it said press on the van it's like a target it's like a just a bullet target you don't want press coming up on you if you're doing some insurgency work like well they're not they weren't insurgents and in this regard i'd say they were correct to write press on you think so you think it was more of a bulletproof vest than a target so if you're driving through conflict territory you're probably better off marking your vehicle press or or actually what a lot of the journalists do because they're scumbags they put red crosses on it far left activists do this all the time and this is why these symbols become meaningless and that's why often it's like don't do anything
Starting point is 01:45:03 because you know partly you're you are correctian uh you'll see this at all these antifa protests they'll put red crosses on their arms clearly antifa throwing bricks at cops with masks on and then when the cops start fighting back the the antifa journalist starts filming and then they go i'm a medic please please and then they go oh the cops are attacking medics oh oh fake that's why the cops are like you're not a journalist you're not a medic
Starting point is 01:45:28 move yeah but they fake it yeah dude it's like urban urban warfare man deception
Starting point is 01:45:34 alright Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says I saw Civil War 7 out of 10 a movie named that should be about a civil war I didn't get lost
Starting point is 01:45:42 in the story or root for any of the characters no lost in escapism Trump's last quote was kind of funny it's funny that raymond called him trump it was very obviously trump but uh nick offerman said that he's definitely not trump did he really say that yeah he said uh i got the quote right here he said honestly no when you see the movie it's unattached to anything in modern politics, not only in our country, but any country. The opening of the movie is Nick Offerman, and it's him practicing his lines going,
Starting point is 01:46:10 we are on the verge of the greatest victory. Some say the greatest victory in military history. And it's like, yeah, okay. Like there's one president that says some said it was the greatest. That's like literally writing a trump line and then the uh what is it like when when that that jesse plemmons scene from the from the trailer where he's like what kind of american are you that was such a bait and switch you like the the insinuation is like are you left are you right which side are you on no he goes which what kind of american are you
Starting point is 01:46:42 north american central south american and the guy goes florida goes oh okay like oh so he was he he wasn't asking him like he's like yeah that's american all right yeah anyway all right print m says tim was there a reason i was forcibly subjected to an ad when your stream started it's because youtube runs ads on the show non-partisan kitty says give it to me the bocus beanie oh yeah maybe we can make bocus beanies yes shameless is the new kid all right ramey g stanley jr says tim team western front or team u.s government there's no heavy backstory so we don't know for sure what's happening. One of the remarks, like you learn some of the story when one of the journalists says, oh, you're going to ask the president questions. And then he starts asking questions that he wants the guy to ask.
Starting point is 01:47:34 And one of them is, has your policy changed around using airstrikes on American citizens? And then he's like, that's what I'm talking about. And I'm like, like Barack Obama. So the good, you. So the switch. But it's clearly Trump. And so the insinuation, if I were to look at that film, the way everything breaks down, it is that Texas is on the verge of turning blue now. A year or a few years from now, there is an Antifa massacre, which escalates tensions. Donald Trump ends up winning a third term or he went second term and it is fair to say it's not trump in the sense because
Starting point is 01:48:14 it's 20 years in the future the film has to be 20 years in the future it has to be because she says you got your start because when you were in college you got a picture of the antifa massacre so for the antifa so considering the Antifa massacre has not occurred, and if this is presumably in a comparable, like based on our timeline, then it would have to be at least a year from now or this year later on, which means Kirsten Dunst, who is 41 years old, and presumably is 41 years old in the movie, was around the age of 20 to 24 at the time.
Starting point is 01:48:43 So it's just about 20 years in the future. So which means it probably would not be Trump, but it would be next Trump or something. Yeah, it was someone who's acting like Trump. It's right. And so when I say it's Trump, you could reasonably say it is MAGA. It's MAGA.
Starting point is 01:48:59 It is the heir of MAGA, who after gets elected, there's an Antifa massacre. They don't say if Antifa killed or was killed. They just call it the Antifa massacre. And then the assumption is based on the narrative. A conflict happens. The president
Starting point is 01:49:13 uses airstrikes to stop the conflict, which results in various factions forming. Or it could be that California secedes because he wins a third term, so then to try and seize control of the country, he airstrikes it, which results in other states seceding or something like that. Well, they know that Trump created the movement that is much bigger than him and it will survive him. That's why they targeted MAGA people, too, you know, with January 6th to try to portray them as terrorists.
Starting point is 01:49:39 And then, you know, trying to delegitimize everything he represents and everyone who can potentially bring his legacy in the future. And that, to me, makes completely sense. They're targeting entire movements because he's the only president who created a movement, by the way. Who else? Juan Caso says, ban all raccoons now. Tim, get Elon Musk on IRL. Easier said than done.
Starting point is 01:50:04 But okay, I guess i guess you know we'll work on it uh what i'm planning on doing is getting justice for mr mutton chops you know i'll tell you something weird this morning when i rode my bike up to the studio as i as i drive up to the front i can see mr mutton chops has jumped out already and i saw him standing next to the entrance where the gate opens up and you can put him back in and i thought to myself as soon as i saw it i was thinking like he's gonna die i just like that's exactly what hit my mind and i and i just ignored that feeling and then i went inside and then as soon as i finished my morning show i got the message he's dead wow his his
Starting point is 01:50:42 feathers are scattered all across the lawn we saw a fox out in the back and so we will uh appropriately seek justice in in whatever form but uh i'll leave it at that justice i think would be to build a better a better city i talked to kim about neo chicken city for the gazebo with like a roof because then the rain won't get the poop nasty and we're uh we're the new and improved yeah so this is uh old chicken city was the small one and it's been it was destroyed a long time ago and uh this is actually new chicken city and it's got the established 2020 and so now what we're building is neo chicken city which is going to be like tokyo futurism what about and we're going to give all the chickens neon sunglasses what about a glux capacitor that's it's a hilly yeah that's what thomas massey
Starting point is 01:51:27 built this giant contraption that moves with solar power throughout the day and his chickens graze in new areas all right let's read some more the engaged few says they actually believe that west virginia would remain loyal to the national government clearly they've never looked at either west virginia's history or populist political history i disagree with you sir i believe that west virginia absolutely would be a loyalist state, assuming Donald Trump was the president. See, that's the point. Take a look at that map. And it's like, I get it. New York's in there, too. But West Virginia certainly makes sense when you consider the president is Trump. And then Texas seceding makes sense. California and the Pacific Northwest going Maoist. They
Starting point is 01:52:02 explicitly say Maoist in the film. They say the Portland Maoists when they're referring to that faction in the Northwest. So it sounds like it's it sounds like China aided the far left and they expanded through Minnesota and they seized all the territory. That's what it seems like. But I would say this, too. even if it was joe biden who was like the bad guy you know and and and it was the red states trying to secede west virginia would still be a loyalist state because it because of proximity to dc that the military uh capabilities in this area are insane west virginia ain't going nowhere yeah and it's a it's a point that you would need to seize and take like harper's ferry is such a defensive bastion with the mountains and the rivers
Starting point is 01:52:45 and a transportation network and stuff. An authentic tin can says, Tim, look up the Hearts of Iron 4 mod, Kaiser Rache's U.S. Civil War, and tell me you don't see the similarities. I don't know what that is. You want to look that up? Hearts of Iron 4 is a paradox game,
Starting point is 01:53:02 grand strategy game, World War II game. I haven't, What's the mod? It's like an American mod. Devin Porter says California, Texas make perfect sense. That's where they're storing most of the criminal aliens they've been chipping into the U.S. I agree, too. The narrative is that within 20 years, Texas goes blue. And then that's it.
Starting point is 01:53:21 The Texas and California governments team up. But I like their original where they each kind of split off on their own. Because I think Texas would just go independent. They don't care about American politics. Yes, but not in 20 years. The idea is that there's an argument Texas is becoming more red because the exodus from California. But it was fairly close before. And some people are saying it's becoming a purple state.
Starting point is 01:53:42 The idea being that if all of these criminal aliens come in california and texas are both going to be blue and then with 51 percent of the population they will install in a super majority of democrats in the state and uh the president even refers to the subjugated people of texas in the film so it's it's possible that texas is split in half There is no wall on this border. Yep. Metaphorically and physically. Evie Man says, Tim, did you see David Hogg get absolutely wrecked by Lily Tang Williams
Starting point is 01:54:15 on the subject of gun control, Dragon Lady for the win? I was reading a bit about Spike and David Hogg's debate and my understanding is that David Hogg won the debate. I'd like to see it. Is it available? It's about 80 minutes long. I didn't catch all of it.
Starting point is 01:54:30 I just caught some excerpts. I mean, it's like I said earlier, like Spike has a bunch of graphs that the audience can't see. He's arguing data. And at one point the moderator is just like, okay, so after Spike throws out all this data, it's a little overwhelming.
Starting point is 01:54:44 The moderator says, okay, so David, why do we have this problem in this country? He goes, because it's the guns. It's the guns and the guns. Because we have guns. And then people in the audience agreed. Yeah. So I don't know much about it other than that someone said that the audience ended up siding with David Hogg. Well, I think Spike and David would be a good duo on Culture War if David would like to come in.
Starting point is 01:55:03 I mean. Do a neutral panel and let them talk about it i i i think the problem with the right and probably the reason david agreed to debate spike is that david is better at manipulating people than spike is and so you end up with a guy showing charts and graphs and being like the data clearly shows that if we do this and then david hogg goes and then they shot a baby and the audience goes oh a baby that's right because of guns and they go whoa it's like did you know you can buy a gun no yeah and guns kill babies it's like a family guy joke where lois is running for office. She goes, nine, 11.
Starting point is 01:55:45 And they go, screaming and cheering. Dude, like the right, you know, Ben Shapiro says, facts don't care about your feelings. And then everyone on the right starts hooting and hollering and running around the room, waving their arms around. And feelings don't care about your facts. And feelings are easier to communicate to because facts are hard to understand. So they always say people will not remember what you told them or what is it? What is it?
Starting point is 01:56:10 What is saying? People will remember what you say. They'll remember how you made them feel. So when David Hogg makes you feel sad and scared, you'll end up checking off the box being like, yeah, he was right. I was scared. You saw. So was it that pedantic or did it actually? Was he making great points?
Starting point is 01:56:24 I don't want to speak out of turn or anything i mean he like i said i only saw a few excerpts because i wanted to cover it um but like i'm out i'm gonna watch like 15 minutes out of 80 minutes so i know there's a lot that i missed there but no i mean i i the the few excerpts that i saw basically just relied on the same structure data graphs that perhaps the audience couldn't see and spike even acknowledged that he was just like I know you guys can't see this. And then David Hogg would just resort to, it's the guns. Guns are the problem. We have to have major gun regulation in this country.
Starting point is 01:56:53 Yeah, guns, kills, baby. What about abortions? I mean, they don't have the same feeling for that? Nope. They don't because you're taking away from them. So the issue with the left is they're thinking, I want mine. And you're like, guns could kill you. They go, oh.
Starting point is 01:57:06 And they go, and then we'll take away your abortion. They go, but then I have to be responsible? What you need to say is, that may be David, but did you know that when you buy a gun, you get free ice cream? And they go, what is that truth? That's right. That's right. That's true.
Starting point is 01:57:20 And they'll go, wow, I think guns are great. Yeah, David's like them. Did you know that because of guns, we have pizza? Really? That's true. And they'll go, wow, I think guns are great. Did you know that because of guns, we have pizza? Really? That's right. See, the original pizza was invented when a guy was trying to make a gun, but accidentally used wheat instead of iron and then rolled it out, put tomato sauce and cheese on it. And yeah, it was pizza.
Starting point is 01:57:37 And they'll go, wow, that's right. So you have to respect it. I bet David, because I think he's going to be a prolific voice for gun rights in the future, in whatever direction. But like, that's why I want to. Yeah. And I want to talk to him now early on in his career, because if, you know, reasonable, we need reason in this country. And being able to have reasonable conversations with people you disagree with is the important part of that.
Starting point is 01:57:58 I'd just be like, David, is it because of guns that a guy pushed another guy in front of a train in New York? No. Is it because of guns that a guy punched a woman in the face in new york no is it because of guns that a guy scalded four people four women and and several other people in new york you guys hear that one a guy was taking boiling water and throwing in people's faces oh my god yes in march i don't even know what happened it's like so much crime in new york but guns are the problem it's like i get that guns are like when there is a mass shooting incident but like that's like you know you live in this world where you problem it's like i get that guns are like when there is a mass shooting incident
Starting point is 01:58:25 but like that's like you know you live in this world where you think it's the biggest problem in the world when peanuts kill more people like i don't think we're gonna ban peanuts anytime soon 3d printed guns uh if people can craft them in their homes like trying to ban the information is insane spike bring that up he may have index strips that i just feel like like if he's like it's the guns guns the problem the problem, I'd be like, probably, but they're 3D printed now, so you can't do anything about it, so good luck regulating it. It doesn't matter if you're right or wrong. Debate's over.
Starting point is 01:58:52 Cat's out of the bag. Guns can be 3D printed. You can straight up make a fully 3D printed gun. Fully plastic and well beyond the capabilities of Liberator, which was 10 plus years ago. The videos they're putting out with this stuff is crazy.
Starting point is 01:59:08 And now we're at the point where you have the 0% receiver. You get a metal block and you put in an at-home CNC machine and it carves it out for like you can't do anything about it. It's ridiculous. And also it's just like David, you know, his problem is that he lives in 1940 because you know what he should be talking about? Directed energy weapons. For real, man. Ballistics of all kinds. We should go deep on weaponry.
Starting point is 01:59:29 Railguns. That'd be awesome. Yeah. All right, we'll grab a couple more of these here Super Chats. X Tin Man says, The lefty writer screwed up with the name Alaska, Polar Bear Cold State. They should have called it Polar Bears Dead
Starting point is 01:59:39 due to global warming state. There's a scene where they breach the White House and there's a Secret Service agent who's white house and there's a secret service agent who's unarmed and she's like i'm here to negotiate and then she was like can you guarantee safe passage for the president and they're like no and then she's like we want to go to neutral territory like alaska and then the female special forces of the west who's like doing this mission just shoots and kills the negotiator like okay i guess and then they just storm in and yeah it's pretty crazy bad yeah dragon wolf says hey tim i'm a longtime fallout fan with how they snubbed new vegas in the show
Starting point is 02:00:13 bethesda may have permanently fractured the community i am pissed dude i only watched the first episode we could do a whole episode on fallout at some point i gotta watch it now i gotta i was ranting to ian how they screwed up the first episode i want to be in it i want to be a scientist. I've helped me get to the producer. If you know people that work for the company, I want to make that show the best show on earth. I want to help them make a awesome lush universe and play the role of a
Starting point is 02:00:33 scientist from atomics, general atomics from East Texas. Who's like hangs out and he's got an energy weapon, dude. And he hangs out on it with the crew. That'd be so bad-ass. All right. Last one.
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Starting point is 02:01:59 All right. Thank you, guys. Thank you for coming. Thank you for being here. Thanks for putting up with everything. And, Simone, it was really good to meet you, man. That was an awesome show. Chris, it's wonderful to see you again, dude. Thank you guys. Thank you for coming. Thank you for being here. Thanks for putting up with everything. And Simone, it was really good to meet you, man. That was an awesome show. Chris, it's wonderful to see you again, dude.
Starting point is 02:02:08 Always a pleasure. Hope I get to see you on the weekly as a regular thing. Really good to see you. Tim, thanks for inviting me to the movie today. It was fun. That was wild. Serge? It was a work thing.
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